[0:03] It looks like the video was on.
[0:04] Is it okay if we do roll call one more time?
[0:06] Sure. Okay.
[0:10] All right.
[0:10] Commissioner. Dante. Present. Commissioner.
[0:14] Present.
[0:14] Commissioner. Sharon. Vice chair.
[0:16] Kumar. Present. Chairman.
[0:18] President.
[0:19] For the record, Commissioner Sharon is absent.
[0:33] We don't have any oral.
[0:36] We don't have any speakers.
[0:40] Okay.
[0:41] So we go to all of minutes. Yes.
[0:50] That. Yes.
[1:17] Okay.
[1:18] We'll take it to a roll call. Vote.
[1:20] Commissioner Dante.
[1:23] Commissioner Garg approved.
[1:26] Vice chair Kumar.
[1:30] The motion carries.
[1:31] Sharon.
[1:45] Exploration.
[1:47] Discussion and consideration of.
[2:03] What are we going to do on this?
[2:07] Just for exploration of committee.
[2:10] To find out how
[2:13] robotics can help.
[2:16] It can
[2:18] be. Number two.
[2:20] Yeah.
[2:21] Number two.
[2:38] So we looked at
[2:40] look at the robotics manufacturing manufacturers.
[2:45] We also look at what our city needs.
[2:47] And we also look at what the other cities are doing.
[2:51] Correct.
[2:53] Yeah.
[2:54] We need to look at the use cases where they can help us right from it.
[2:58] Yeah.
[2:59] Basically basically three areas where do we need
[3:01] what other cities are doing and maybe what robotics companies are capable.
[3:07] Yeah.
[3:08] Right. What
[3:10] robotics robots companies can do for us?
[3:15] We don't have to.
[3:16] What other cities
[3:19] have new citizens?
[3:21] Okay.
[3:23] Lots of companies,
[3:25] 20 of them, like billion dollar funding.
[3:28] And there are lots of companies doing the work in there.
[3:35] So if we go to San Jose conference.
[3:38] We'll have lots of robots. Correct?
[3:40] Nvidia conference.
[3:43] Yeah. Last.
[3:44] Let's come back to the topic.
[3:45] Yeah. Yeah.
[3:47] They were like, is there a segment in the robotics
[3:52] that are robotics that are oriented for the government and the city?
[3:58] I think we need to identify what are the areas.
[4:01] Can we not necessarily the government
[4:04] and see what other cities are doing.
[4:07] Learn from them quickly.
[4:10] And also.
[4:11] So mostly it is like park and recreation kind of stuff.
[4:14] Correct.
[4:15] I also I've seen some in the security area as well.
[4:19] Physical security,
[4:22] physical robots.
[4:23] RoboCop.
[4:29] But I've seen some robots in there
[4:32] that's doing San Francisco band.
[4:35] Correct.
[4:37] We had in San Francisco in the
[4:41] I don't know where, but there was a news like the band.
[4:44] Yeah, I've seen some robot security robots.
[4:49] I mean, security robots.
[4:51] Give me a pause.
[4:52] In the past and in the models, all hospitals
[4:55] and robots going around.
[5:00] That you can
[5:02] some may already be used.
[5:05] For example,
[5:07] I see for cleaning.
[5:12] It happens all the time.
[5:14] Yeah.
[5:16] San Francisco has got a company.
[5:17] Not many company robot companies.
[5:19] So you come to your home and clean your home.
[5:23] Oh, okay. Yeah.
[5:25] In San Francisco now, robots are more advanced.
[5:29] It seems an hour, $30 an hour.
[5:31] Yeah.
[5:32] One of my friends like cleaning my wife.
[5:35] You know certain things, right?
[5:37] They can't clean everything.
[5:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's very. Yes.
[5:43] But I don't say that.
[5:45] They're saying eventually we'll have
[5:47] that. Eventually is not long.
[5:49] Yeah. Yeah.
[5:51] I've seen, like, one of my friends says
[5:53] that robot with that big station. Right.
[5:57] It has it can go and make, you know, the places and floors.
[6:01] And if you want to do like this.
[6:04] How do you, for example, in the hallway
[6:07] here, this whole cleaning can be done.
[6:11] Yeah, yeah.
[6:11] So San Francisco in our office is all the cafeteria floor and everything. So
[6:19] it goes
[6:19] in the the robot means that your person.
[6:22] Robot person is not to say I robot kind of thing.
[6:27] No, no.
[6:28] Same like.
[6:29] Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is industrial.
[6:32] But this one, this for this subcommittee
[6:34] we are talking about humanoid robots and we are talking about any general.
[6:39] Okay. Any robot is right.
[6:41] Because this one, what I am talking about, like in San Francisco,
[6:44] you know, there are videos where humanoid robots will come in remote.
[6:49] Taxi!
[6:50] Come to your home, clean the home and back.
[6:53] And we need to think from the city's point of view.
[6:55] Yeah.
[6:56] What will benefit city? Right.
[6:59] Okay. Right.
[7:00] Yeah.
[7:01] What are the use cases for this?
[7:04] Like?
[7:05] Because it can go now.
[7:07] It can bring wet clothes.
[7:10] Everything.
[7:10] Everything.
[7:11] It's not just dry, it's wet, you name it. Or
[7:15] shining.
[7:16] Yeah. Yeah.
[7:17] That will keep signing all the time.
[7:20] Yeah.
[7:20] So anyway, I think the subject is, do we do
[7:24] we need to appoint a subcommittee member, alternate and define the purpose of this.
[7:30] For the purpose is where we can use.
[7:36] Yeah. Right.
[7:37] But let me know.
[7:39] But just to enter that, I just thought of, you know,
[7:43] we can have robots in different streets because there is a lot of car
[7:47] drinking and stuff. Right.
[7:49] So some of that is what I was talking about.
[7:54] They have robotics that actually go along the sidewalk and detect
[7:58] where there's a uplift or curb
[8:02] issues.
[8:03] You know, Ada compliant even.
[8:06] Yeah.
[8:07] So basically can do an inspection for you.
[8:10] Okay.
[8:12] Without having a surveyor going there.
[8:15] But it has to be aggressive robot.
[8:17] They can't go near it so they can steal it.
[8:20] Okay. I think back to the topic.
[8:21] I can lead it, but can anybody else?
[8:28] Do we need three people?
[8:29] I think one one alternate and one idea.
[8:34] So two two
[8:36] subcommittee cannot be more than two people.
[8:38] Yeah. Oh, it has to be two people.
[8:41] Yeah. Yeah. Can have people.
[8:43] And then the alternate.
[8:44] I think that's what the subject is like.
[8:48] For example, maybe this year I'm not doing much is doing cyber cybersecurity.
[8:54] I'm just like that support.
[8:57] So in robotics I can lead.
[8:59] But somebody if somebody can support.
[9:03] All right.
[9:04] Okay. Is it okay?
[9:06] Yeah. Yeah.
[9:07] And since no one else stepped in so I just
[9:11] I can do it.
[9:14] I can be
[9:16] cyber third time.
[9:18] I thank you all. Once, please.
[9:21] No, I think maybe I'll do something next year.
[9:25] This year I think I got my. Yeah.
[9:29] That is completely.
[9:32] I'm not doing I mean meddling my doing.
[9:36] So did a good presentation.
[9:38] I've been guiding her a little bit.
[9:41] So she is using last year experience and.
[9:44] Yeah well two years experience.
[9:49] Last year it was very new.
[9:50] We also didn't know what to do. Right.
[9:53] So yeah,
[9:54] it's not more streamlined.
[9:57] We don't need to vote on that.
[9:58] That's just a decision they can make. Right.
[10:01] Or this we actually need two motions.
[10:03] We need a motion to define the scope.
[10:04] And then we need a motion for who we're going to add to the subcommittee.
[10:10] Before we do that can we go to public comment sharing.
[10:13] Yeah.
[10:14] Looks like we don't have we have no speakers.
[10:21] So we have to discuss the scope now.
[10:24] I mean,
[10:26] you need to write a statement, right?
[10:28] Intent. Okay.
[10:29] So that is of the subcommittee.
[10:32] Intent of the subcommittee is okay.
[10:36] We'll post the motion later on.
[10:37] Let's have a discussion.
[10:39] The first is look at the capabilities.
[10:44] What robotics companies are providing today for public sector.
[10:48] You know, second is look at the somebody talked about
[10:52] look at the neighborhood but don't limit Labor City.
[10:56] I'll also look at Chinese cities.
[10:58] Any advanced.
[11:01] Yeah I know that guy has launched some of them in some
[11:05] municipal corporation has some robotics there that has been that.
[11:09] Yeah. There has been big news on advanced.
[11:12] Yeah.
[11:12] So so we can look at like what city is doing okay.
[11:15] And then look at the city use cases like we are talking about RoboCop.
[11:20] You're talking about park and recreation.
[11:23] And then make a proposal. Mix all three.
[11:26] Basically what what technology can do.
[11:29] What other cities are doing and what our city needs.
[11:32] Yeah. What? Our city.
[11:34] I think that is very important to know what our city.
[11:42] First it should be investigation.
[11:44] Right.
[11:45] And I think the output should be a report
[11:49] where we are presenting what technologies are available
[11:53] for from robotics perspective for the city.
[11:57] And the second is if there is an existing implementations
[12:01] by other cities in robotics area.
[12:04] And so what do we propose
[12:08] to the city map to our city needs.
[12:12] So what is the we may not need.
[12:15] And also but budget is on the second city.
[12:18] Yes. So what what would we prioritize?
[12:21] Right.
[12:23] I think I think budget should not be part in the,
[12:26] you know, knowing is it something that's truly a work.
[12:30] You know it's moving technology.
[12:32] That's my first city.
[12:33] We can't purchase something that's going to be one costly and not proven right.
[12:40] Do we need to make sure it's going to be reliable?
[12:43] Right. Got it.
[12:44] That is the reason the first two is also very important
[12:46] whether properties companies are capable or not,
[12:48] and whether other cities are using it or not.
[12:51] And you should look at the results of what their success rate.
[12:55] But I would propose let's not bring the budget in this.
[12:59] No, no, this is a study.
[13:01] Budget comes in the second. Exactly.
[13:03] This is only the study.
[13:04] What are the possibilities? In agreement?
[13:06] Yeah. Okay.
[13:07] Yeah. Okay.
[13:09] So then I propose the scope.
[13:11] Scope is evaluate technology
[13:16] abilities, working with local police, manufacturing companies
[13:22] that evaluate
[13:23] technological capabilities
[13:26] of the robotics manufacturing companies.
[13:29] Okay.
[13:30] Other reports manufacturing companies, robots.
[13:33] What robots can do, can do to make it simple.
[13:36] Second is
[13:38] research on how cities around the world are using robots.
[13:45] Correct. Yeah.
[13:46] And third is a study what our city needs.
[13:51] Okay.
[13:52] So I have all of them together, all three of them together and pretend to
[13:57] make sense. Yep. Okay, perfect.
[13:59] So I propose this motion. We have a motion.
[14:02] Can I get a second? I can second.
[14:05] Okay, we'll take it to a roll call.
[14:07] Vote. Commissioner. Dante.
[14:10] Agree.
[14:11] Commissioner.
[14:13] Yes. Vice chair.
[14:14] Kumar. Agree. Chairman.
[14:18] The motion carries.
[14:19] With Commissioner Sharon absent.
[14:21] Oh, I'm so sorry.
[14:22] We need a motion to determine who's going to be in the
[14:27] city.
[14:28] That's the second one.
[14:29] Yeah.
[14:31] Okay.
[14:32] You want to go ahead?
[14:34] Yeah, I brought those
[14:37] second.
[14:38] I propose I do have to propose the members as well.
[14:43] Yeah. For the subcommittee? Yes.
[14:44] I propose I share command to leave the committee.
[14:50] Okay. Yes.
[14:52] Propose.
[14:57] Commissioner.
[14:57] Guard second.
[15:00] And Commissioner Ramesh thought it.
[15:04] Correct?
[15:04] Yes. Yes.
[15:11] Okay.
[15:12] We'll take.
[15:12] You shall roll. Call. Vote. Dante.
[15:16] Yes. Commissioner.
[15:19] Yes. Chair.
[15:20] Kumar. Yes.
[15:22] Yes. The motion carries.
[15:24] With Commissioner Sharon absent.
[15:26] Do we also have to put the purpose?
[15:29] We did the subcommittee member scope.
[15:32] We also have.
[15:33] Yes. We already did a motion on the scope for the community.
[15:37] But that's all.
[15:38] That's all we need. Okay. Purpose and particular.
[15:41] Yes. Yes.
[15:45] Can we move to another topic?
[15:49] Okay.
[16:13] Okay.
[16:14] Can we add like purpose is explore safe
[16:17] and ethical users or use of property?
[16:20] I think we need to modify that. Right.
[16:22] It's a safe and.
[16:30] I think we have here at all.
[16:33] Correct.
[16:34] We need to add self and explore use of robotics.
[16:37] Okay.
[16:45] Makes sense.
[16:48] Explore use of robotics.
[16:54] Okay.
[16:55] Chair.
[16:56] May we go to. Yes.
[16:59] We have no speakers here.
[17:04] So we modify the work to explore use of remote.
[17:08] Yeah.
[17:10] So take out the safe and ethical.
[17:11] Yeah, yeah.
[17:12] Okay.
[17:17] That's change.
[17:19] Yeah.
[17:20] Okay.
[17:23] Are we talking number two?
[17:25] We are talking about it.
[17:26] Are you talking about number three?
[17:28] One. One.
[17:31] Gender number.
[17:33] Going to discuss number three right now.
[17:34] Yeah.
[17:35] Agenda item number three.
[17:38] Three.
[17:39] You are already working.
[17:41] Talking about what kind of one? Yeah.
[17:45] Robotics.
[17:46] And I put on operations for maintenance, cleaning public works.
[17:51] You can add safety.
[17:53] Public safety.
[18:03] Can we do it?
[18:04] Public works in public
[18:06] safety. Safety.
[18:07] Where are we adding that?
[18:09] Oh, on the objective work.
[18:11] Item number one. Okay.
[18:13] On the objective.
[18:19] Did you get.
[18:23] Here?
[18:28] Do you mind repeating that
[18:31] on the word number one
[18:34] project objective.
[18:37] Yeah.
[18:38] Robotics and I could announce city operations, particularly in maintenance,
[18:42] building, public safety and public works.
[18:46] So currently, it already has public works and safety.
[18:50] You would like to add public safety net
[18:53] in the first sentence.
[19:06] And then did you get under for the project.
[19:10] They want to remove safe and ethical.
[19:13] It's just explore use of robotics.
[19:19] Because one can argue
[19:20] that all of it is because it's people can do that work.
[19:25] Sure.
[19:27] Right.
[19:29] People can argue it's replacing demand labor,
[19:33] but it is not unethical.
[19:36] We do a lot of things.
[19:38] Yeah. Let's just call it. Yeah.
[19:41] So eventually we are not going to do anything unethical.
[19:47] We are not going to do anything.
[19:50] Not anything.
[19:53] Okay. No. No.
[19:54] Serious. Yeah.
[19:55] Yeah. I'm saying we have nothing to do, so.
[19:58] Right.
[19:59] Don't do anything.
[20:06] MIT just said that all their undergraduate
[20:11] papers, tests and examinations can be done here.
[20:16] Or they allowed. No no no no.
[20:19] Everything can be done by here.
[20:22] I mean, the test AI can pass.
[20:25] Oh, yeah.
[20:27] Okay.
[20:28] So if they do an open exam with
[20:31] computer in New York, band
[20:35] there is called up to not to use AI.
[20:38] Yeah. Yes. Up to eight grade.
[20:44] Still not learn anything.
[20:45] So on the.
[20:47] Are we discussing about item number three at this point.
[20:50] Have we moved on to three or. No. No at one.
[20:54] Still at one.
[20:55] Let's close one and two.
[20:57] I think we can skip.
[20:59] Yeah. We have the presentation.
[21:00] We already have it.
[21:02] And we've already done some evaluation of three.
[21:05] Is there anything else we need to.
[21:07] Yeah I think we have some presentations.
[21:10] Right. Yep.
[21:11] And what was the final report on
[21:16] on what use cases will implement has us and what what is planned for the future.
[21:21] Is there anything that is that a report
[21:25] from us or from you guys?
[21:28] No. No, from the perspective
[21:32] that. Yeah.
[21:33] What came out of it, you were saying, right?
[21:35] Yeah.
[21:35] What is city was already implementing it, right?
[21:38] Yes. Yeah.
[21:40] Let's read some.
[21:40] If I was from Microsoft.
[21:42] So make a suggestion.
[21:44] I was thinking, like,
[21:45] if the team can present to us what we are doing and what we have done.
[21:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[21:51] And I know that I dropped the ball, but now my role has changed.
[21:57] And I'm also meeting AI so I can I can
[22:00] have a formal discussion.
[22:04] Well let's talk about it more.
[22:06] We're doing quite a bit now.
[22:08] We've rolled it out to the whole city.
[22:11] So we're definitely much more familiar
[22:15] than we were when we had that conversation.
[22:17] Yes, yes. Yeah.
[22:19] Microsoft. Right.
[22:20] You guys. Yeah.
[22:21] You guys are looking at.
[22:22] I saw that you guys are looking
[22:23] at the website and all that is very, very good.
[22:27] Yeah. Yeah.
[22:29] Yeah.
[22:30] Test that when you get a chance.
[22:32] Chance to look at it. Yeah.
[22:34] So is it okay if is it okay if you guys can present what is happening?
[22:38] What is.
[22:40] Yeah. Yeah. We can.
[22:42] And also what? The future.
[22:44] We can have a discussion.
[22:46] Yeah. Yeah.
[22:48] But I didn't hear that last part.
[22:52] I didn't hear the last part. No, he's
[22:55] his idea.
[22:57] So, for example, we already have a customer facing jackpot.
[23:00] We are not a consulting company. We are like.
[23:03] So we are not selling you anything? Yeah. Okay. So.
[23:05] But we have got very sophisticated chat bot customer is using.
[23:09] Our customer uses that, you know, it's a different purpose is different.
[23:13] Correct.
[23:14] Little bit is not popular but yes we.
[23:20] It is B2B enterprise customers.
[23:23] Customers. Find out about their products.
[23:26] Yeah. Okay.
[23:27] So should we select a date for that?
[23:34] Do you have a core?
[23:36] Yeah.
[23:37] So throat and
[23:40] like a sinus issue.
[23:44] All right.
[23:44] So we're September.
[23:45] The next meeting is November.
[23:47] Should we plan to do do we have.
[23:50] We don't have anything to go to
[23:52] for November except for a recap of the cybersecurity,
[23:55] because the cybersecurity is November next, regular meeting
[24:00] in November 4th.
[24:04] So that is fine.
[24:06] So I think the only thing we'll have is the recap
[24:09] of cybersecurity, because it'll be the next meeting afterwards.
[24:12] And then we could do the presentation. Yeah.
[24:16] And then update from the robotics subcommittee.
[24:19] Okay.
[24:20] Yeah.
[24:21] Okay.
[24:24] Some things for the next meeting.
[24:25] I'm sorry.
[24:26] Three things. Right? Yes.
[24:29] Okay.
[24:31] This one.
[24:34] Okay.
[24:35] So then we will close the number three after that.
[24:38] Right.
[24:38] Yeah.
[24:39] Yeah.
[24:55] Do you have the present? Yes.
[25:08] Do we have to pass any motion on the work items?
[25:12] No. No.
[25:13] Okay.
[25:16] Looks.
[25:19] For cybersecurity.
[25:23] So this year's event
[25:27] is on October 1st, 6 to 8 p.m.
[25:31] is brought that time in your calendars.
[25:34] And expect all the commissioners from commissioners to attend this year.
[25:40] Because last year, we had only three people.
[25:43] Right.
[25:47] No, you were not.
[25:48] I don't think I was.
[25:51] He came secretly and
[25:54] even not in the front seat.
[25:56] We had a reserve sitting for you.
[25:57] Oh, I think I have a second.
[26:01] I can.
[26:04] So please.
[26:06] Next year.
[26:09] So the event will be inaugurated by Mayor Moore.
[26:14] And this is considered again a special meeting.
[26:18] Right.
[26:19] So Vice Chair Kumar will kick off the meeting.
[26:24] We'll start the meeting and.
[26:30] Yeah.
[26:30] And then I'm the moderator for the
[26:35] for the event.
[26:37] And then we have
[26:40] Terry Merlin, everyone helping us out and all the all the city staff.
[26:46] Right.
[26:47] They're all helping us out with the event.
[26:52] Next slide.
[26:53] Please
[26:55] stop me if you have any questions.
[26:57] Okay.
[26:58] So we have
[27:00] five panelists this year.
[27:03] This is one of the panelists Don Hester.
[27:05] He is in Department of Homeland Security.
[27:08] He could not attend last year because of furlough.
[27:12] He's agreed to attend online.
[27:16] He's agreed to participate.
[27:17] No, he'll be in person here.
[27:21] One of the requirement is for the panelists to be in person.
[27:24] We don't have any online panelists.
[27:26] Okay.
[27:28] And then the next panelist is
[27:33] Ramesh Gupta.
[27:34] He was there and he was one of the bandits last year.
[27:37] We are bringing him back.
[27:39] He is the CEO of a company called AI,
[27:43] and he has 30 plus experience in cybersecurity
[27:47] in different products.
[27:51] Next slide.
[27:55] One. He is head of cybersecurity engineering at visa.
[27:59] He was there.
[28:00] He was one of the panelists last year.
[28:03] He yeah, that's my neighbor actually.
[28:06] He was next door to you know.
[28:11] And yeah, he's very experienced in the sector.
[28:15] Sector
[28:18] next.
[28:21] Doctor
[28:22] is a CTO of IoT security at Palo Alto Networks.
[28:26] She I believe she was one of the panelists and last but the first before
[28:32] and she's agreed to participate.
[28:36] This is a panelist this year as well. So.
[28:42] Next.
[28:45] We have
[28:48] Sandeep Patel.
[28:48] He is responsible for high tech prosecutions in the Santa Clara County.
[28:55] Okay.
[28:55] And I'm sure he's going to bring us a lot
[28:58] of information and knowledge on high tech crimes,
[29:03] real cases, real cases, real life cases which are applicable
[29:07] to a lot of the lot of the audience should be able to put the learn from that.
[29:12] This is for corporate crimes, right? No.
[29:16] That's correct.
[29:16] All cyber crimes. And.
[29:20] So on.
[29:21] The the whole purpose of this event is to address
[29:25] cyber crimes against the president for a normal person.
[29:30] So he will bring the he will bring from the prosecutor perspective.
[29:35] Yeah. Some of the real examples. Yeah. Yeah.
[29:39] So these are the five panelists.
[29:42] Awesome balance. Yes. Yeah.
[29:44] This is pretty good panel. Yeah.
[29:46] That was very helpful in getting the
[29:50] district attorney.
[29:51] She contacted the district attorney's office as well as May.
[29:55] May she brought in as well.
[29:59] So don.
[30:00] Don, sir, I think that's Tommy.
[30:03] Yeah. Tommy's connection.
[30:07] Is there. Yeah.
[30:08] Because a lot of people on the semiconductor side
[30:13] like replacing them every six months.
[30:19] Next.
[30:20] Because a lot of people love their jobs from here
[30:23] in companies, big, big positions have joined.
[30:26] Now they're all doctors.
[30:30] So this we are going into the meeting event schedule itself.
[30:34] So I'll introduce the panelists and I'll be marketing the event.
[30:38] So the sort of talking
[30:41] to the panelists and asking them the questions, we have set of questions
[30:46] right now.
[30:48] Right now everything is skewed towards AI.
[30:51] All the questions.
[30:51] And we have close to 17 questions.
[30:54] I mean we are the priority is 12 last year.
[30:57] Those are still very relevant.
[30:59] But there have been new attacks using AI
[31:04] and a lot of attacks have been enhanced by AI.
[31:07] So we wanted to cover that.
[31:09] Yeah, maybe find a mix
[31:13] because we
[31:13] want to include some new questions also.
[31:16] First of all.
[31:19] So the plan is
[31:20] we are having a meeting with anyway before we next week,
[31:25] we plan to have a meeting with the panelists and finalize
[31:29] the questions, get their input, and also finalize who will be responding
[31:34] to which question, which panelists will be involved with which questions.
[31:38] That way, we can have a orderly meeting and we can move quickly
[31:42] and streamline way.
[31:44] And then.
[31:47] The meeting scheduled itself, we have
[31:50] 610 will be starting.
[31:54] And. Will be introducing calling the meeting to order,
[32:02] introducing their more and more will be inaugurated in the event.
[32:07] And so Gibson.
[32:10] Yeah. Will come to that.
[32:11] Yeah. It's covered here.
[32:13] Okay.
[32:14] Will be introducing the panelists and then we'll have a panel discussion
[32:18] for one hour. And then next slide.
[32:24] We have
[32:24] some Kumar is one of the team commissioners.
[32:28] She'll be doing a quiz.
[32:31] Audience Chris, we have already developed the quiz.
[32:35] It's a prince of five questions.
[32:38] You make sure people are listening.
[32:40] Yeah, yeah, she's been involved.
[32:44] And right now we have the questions.
[32:47] We have an online SaaS software called binti.
[32:51] These questions
[32:51] will be uploaded into Mindy that Samantha is volunteered to do that.
[32:56] But we need to remind her.
[33:03] Three of us should meet.
[33:04] Three of us should meet one week before.
[33:07] Yeah, yeah. It's already.
[33:08] She had a call with Samantha, Merlin and I.
[33:12] Okay, good.
[33:12] And Sumitra is already agreed to do that.
[33:14] Good.
[33:15] And basically, we'll have a QR code for these questions.
[33:21] Audience can just point to the QR code gets to the questions and they can answer.
[33:26] And we can publish the right results on the screen.
[33:30] Okay. That's the intent of this.
[33:34] After the after the quiz, five questions
[33:37] we want to get done in ten minutes or less for the answer the questions.
[33:42] Audience answers the question on the
[33:45] right on their cell phone.
[33:47] On this cell phone.
[33:48] Okay.
[33:48] And we want to see what they've learned from the event.
[33:51] And it would be live like 510 is moving moving
[33:55] consistently some.
[33:59] That is a lot. No,
[34:03] there is no right or wrong answer. Correct.
[34:05] It's like opinion, but there is a item, right?
[34:09] Oh, it should be.
[34:10] Which should be okay. Okay.
[34:13] And the question I mean it can
[34:16] I don't know for these events
[34:20] or I don't know.
[34:21] Oh for, for actually getting the right answer
[34:24] because half of the people might get our dancer.
[34:26] We cannot give a watch to all.
[34:28] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[34:30] See if we have some giveaways.
[34:35] Let me ask, on what basis do you give the award?
[34:38] Right.
[34:38] For the fastest person who's answering the question, or can we track that?
[34:42] I don't know if that's possible. That doesn't. Yeah.
[34:44] Because these apps, you see. Right.
[34:46] You have them open it up in an app
[34:48] and then and then answer and then it shows up on the screen
[34:52] how many people are answering right or wrong.
[34:53] And then you just say, oh, this was the wrong.
[34:55] So whoever gets it, whoever
[34:58] gets the most questions right gets a word. Then
[35:03] I think we're not going to know, how do you you're not going to know.
[35:06] It's not going to say.
[35:07] It's going to be let's say it's going to be anonymous.
[35:10] It'll it'll just not us.
[35:12] So yeah, we don't need to do an award if you want to give a part.
[35:16] What we can do is just a proposal.
[35:19] What we can do is because audience will ask questions to the panelist,
[35:22] and panelist will decide one award for the best question.
[35:29] You know what?
[35:29] The only one of
[35:31] which award and panelist
[35:34] you as the side correct the reverse.
[35:38] So we are already having award for our panelists.
[35:41] So we had one more gift, one more that's.
[35:45] And which panelist gets.
[35:47] No no no.
[35:48] All of them together. We decide if.
[35:53] It's okay if are coming in.
[35:57] How would you decide? 20 or 25.
[35:59] And we don't even know the names of the people.
[36:01] Yeah. So it would be. Okay. Leave it.
[36:04] Yeah, yeah.
[36:04] As complicated.
[36:06] Still complicated.
[36:08] There's not enough time in this format.
[36:10] Select somebody else.
[36:12] It's a good idea. Yeah, yeah. It's to.
[36:15] Oh, one thing we could have done
[36:19] potentially is have a raffle at the end.
[36:23] Because if you mention the raffle in the flier,
[36:26] you might have more people showing.
[36:31] In my in my all hands.
[36:33] My team. All hands I do that. Best question.
[36:36] No, no. Not raffle.
[36:37] Best question about
[36:40] how many questions do you like?
[36:42] There is 15 minutes.
[36:43] Just like all hands is 45 minutes.
[36:45] 30 minutes. I speak and 15 minutes is open.
[36:49] And the best question?
[36:50] About $100.
[36:54] That's something
[36:55] we can think about in the next year's event.
[36:58] Is having raffle raffle at the end of the year.
[37:03] Wait till the end to get to the raffle drawing you put
[37:07] you put your name and put it in.
[37:11] Can you do that? It's not late.
[37:14] Okay, now we can do it up
[37:16] so that more.
[37:17] Yeah.
[37:19] If the participation is happening because of winning, the
[37:23] something is wrong.
[37:27] Then learning about cyber security.
[37:29] That's right. Last year there was something.
[37:31] Yeah. Yeah.
[37:32] It's very scary to even click on the link.
[37:35] If you put raffle you won't have a space.
[37:38] But we have to get the word out there. Yeah.
[37:41] So that's a good point.
[37:43] So we planted in the event at 8:00.
[37:47] And basically we ended like any other meeting.
[37:51] Right.
[37:53] But I will end the panel.
[37:57] I don't think it will have an that much of an impact in city.
[38:01] Like we would like more to present
[38:06] tokens of appreciation to the panelists and the moderator, I guess.
[38:12] And Vice Chair Kumar will thank the members
[38:17] and end the meeting.
[38:22] And we'll end the broadcast at that time.
[38:25] But we'll be having a lot of people hanging around.
[38:31] At the end asking questions
[38:32] like last time, so
[38:35] many of the panelists stayed back and answered questions after that answer.
[38:40] So next slide please.
[38:44] And unless there's any questions.
[38:46] No this is good.
[38:46] Okay.
[38:49] Subcommittee next items basically
[38:53] social media campaign.
[38:55] We have different WhatsApp groups.
[38:57] We have the fly finalized by the way.
[38:59] We have the final flier
[39:02] here.
[39:03] This is the final flier.
[39:04] And on this flier there is a event, right?
[39:08] Registration. People can go watch again.
[39:12] They should register so that we have a good idea.
[39:15] And how many people are coming.
[39:16] Right. Last year
[39:18] they had to go to the city website and it was a little bit complicated.
[39:21] This makes it a lot easier.
[39:22] Yeah.
[39:25] And then
[39:26] so the social media campaign that also entails the city's social media.
[39:30] Yes. And our promotion.
[39:32] But you also will do your own social media.
[39:35] Social media doesn't mean posted it to a lot of different WhatsApp groups and all.
[39:41] So yeah, as well as LinkedIn on the city, LinkedIn.
[39:45] We should post this. Yes.
[39:48] That's our group.
[39:50] Okay. Yep.
[39:51] And then oh, as I mentioned
[39:55] we have the review of questions with snaps.
[39:58] And Merlin is going to order coffee from the Coffee Society. And
[40:03] like she did last time, she will pick up some histories
[40:06] and cookies and stuff like that.
[40:10] We are push fliers
[40:14] at the Quinlan Sports Center.
[40:16] I mentioned library last time, and I ran into a problem at the library
[40:20] because when I said
[40:21] put the flier up there, one thing is it's too crowded in that bulletin board.
[40:26] Another one is you have to sort of get it approved by the two weeks before.
[40:32] And there is a general section they put that, but that general section,
[40:35] nobody looks at it. Yeah.
[40:37] They pull it out actually they remove it every year.
[40:41] They go and clean it up.
[40:42] Where do they remove it from the bulletin board
[40:46] library.
[40:48] There.
[40:48] There are I think there are processes.
[40:51] They've read 48 hours. They remove it.
[40:54] Anybody can put anything.
[40:55] But every 48 hours or so they allow 48 hours.
[40:58] Yeah, but but you have to know that is the open.
[41:01] What he's talking about is approved. Approved.
[41:03] And then then you leave it there.
[41:06] Oh there is the one who put in area.
[41:07] Open area can put anything. Yes. But
[41:11] yeah we'll we are looking to get it approved.
[41:14] And also we are creating big a, a frames
[41:18] that we can set it up this clip, load this up and set it up.
[41:22] Okay.
[41:23] And we are going to have two of them.
[41:27] Merlin is working on it.
[41:29] And one of them.
[41:31] So the Coffee society
[41:33] shop next to library is going to provide us with the coffee.
[41:37] So we can set it up there.
[41:39] It's right next to the library.
[41:41] So they're not out there.
[41:43] So it's in their best interest.
[41:46] Right. Exactly.
[41:48] So that's that's the plan on
[41:52] for the committee subcommittee.
[41:54] And just like last time, I'm hoping
[41:58] Vice Chair Kumar can help us
[42:01] publicize the event.
[42:02] And also
[42:05] going to the next slide. So
[42:10] yeah, for different Cupertino businesses, we need help
[42:13] so that we can distribute it to different businesses like eateries
[42:18] and poverty's so that they can set it up in their bulletin boards.
[42:23] They can set up the fliers.
[42:27] Yeah, we'll have soft copies.
[42:29] Madeline will send out the soft copies, and we need to
[42:34] sort of publicize it in the different social channels.
[42:38] This is not limited to
[42:40] residents, only right
[42:42] from the surrounding cities anyone wants to buy.
[42:46] Some people came from Saratoga and.
[42:49] Right.
[42:51] And then.
[42:55] Cupertino Unified School District, as well as Fremont
[42:58] Union High School District last year to take care of it.
[43:02] You'll take care of it this year.
[43:04] Okay, good.
[43:06] And then we need to set
[43:07] a formal invitation to Cupertino City Council.
[43:11] I can do it. Or if anyone wants to do it
[43:15] right.
[43:16] Okay.
[43:18] You can probably to send it to the city council.
[43:23] And do you have a city meeting
[43:26] with the mayor where you have different commissioners?
[43:30] Commissioners meeting the there?
[43:32] No, we didn't have the last minute.
[43:34] When is the next one?
[43:35] They were on vacation or something.
[43:38] Is it before October 1st?
[43:40] When is the one this month? Right.
[43:43] Is it monthly?
[43:45] Last month it was not there
[43:48] every other year.
[43:50] But they skipped it last month.
[43:52] Yeah. Okay. September 16th. Yeah. Okay.
[43:55] If you can take a bunch of fliers
[43:58] next Monday.
[43:59] Now, you can take all this, you know, now if they can give it out as well.
[44:04] Yeah.
[44:04] So that means more than there are 4 or 5 here.
[44:08] Yeah. Will not waste paper.
[44:10] We have got five. Okay.
[44:13] And we can we can get to give you more.
[44:17] So that if you can distribute it to the other commissioners.
[44:22] Yeah.
[44:25] Oh, you don't
[44:27] know.
[44:29] Yeah.
[44:30] And other commissioners did some to see.
[44:40] Or see that meeting like she attends.
[44:44] Yeah.
[44:45] Okay.
[44:48] Okay.
[44:49] And if you can promote this meeting at other commission meetings,
[44:53] that would be nice. If we can.
[44:56] All that would be there that that meeting.
[44:59] But we can can.
[45:01] When you are sending email to the city council, can you send an email
[45:04] to all the commissioners?
[45:05] Also at least chair of the commission?
[45:08] Yeah. Okay.
[45:10] That last I think last time, last time the meeting of the.
[45:16] Yeah.
[45:16] But so
[45:19] that is this September.
[45:21] Oh, I can send us an email.
[45:23] Yeah, yeah.
[45:23] I was saying, like you send two email one to all the all the chair of all this,
[45:28] all the commission. One is to city council. Yeah.
[45:33] And ask chair of the commission
[45:35] to to discuss it to all the commission members.
[45:39] Okay.
[45:41] I think is common to all of them.
[45:43] So so
[45:46] no no, no. Chairs cannot.
[45:48] Yeah. Charles cannot do that.
[45:50] So one, it has to be one of the city employees who has to do it right.
[45:54] But she cannot do that.
[45:56] No because. No but but brown.
[45:59] But what.
[46:00] No. Chairs cannot do that.
[46:01] I understand, but we can send it to all the chairs.
[46:05] I think we did it last, but we cannot send it to all the commission.
[46:10] We can send.
[46:11] All right. Yeah.
[46:12] See? Only to the chair.
[46:15] So I can put your name.
[46:17] Because that's not breaking any problems here.
[46:20] Yeah.
[46:21] He can send it to all the commissioners so he can send it to all the commissioners.
[46:25] Last year we did.
[46:27] I'm not
[46:28] saying you have to double check with the city clerk.
[46:30] Okay, so last year I did that.
[46:32] I didn't get all the commissioner.
[46:35] I sent it to only the chair of the commission.
[46:37] Every chair of the commission, one member per commission,
[46:41] and ask them to distribute,
[46:44] doc, promote into their own commission.
[46:49] Yeah. I'm just not sure.
[46:51] Yeah, they can distribute the follow up.
[46:53] We could follow up with you on that.
[46:54] They can write that WCC.
[46:58] You're fine.
[46:59] I mean that's what we do for council and.
[47:01] Yeah.
[47:01] And commissioners.
[47:03] Yeah.
[47:06] Lindsay just send it back and we're safe.
[47:09] Yeah.
[47:11] Everybody.
[47:18] That's the commission tasks
[47:21] for everyone is response in the commission.
[47:27] Next.
[47:32] So this is the presentation that will be giving
[47:36] presentation self is very minimal right.
[47:39] Okay. Because you're not.
[47:41] This is more panel discussion.
[47:43] Yeah yeah. So that's the first slide.
[47:45] And then we have this slide that
[47:48] we'll be putting up in there.
[47:56] The next one.
[47:58] Next slide.
[48:01] Right now this is the event.
[48:04] And we have the questions in this presentation.
[48:07] But we don't have the presentation.
[48:11] With the questions we will have the meeting
[48:14] Menti
[48:15] will have the questions in Menti.
[48:17] And we'll do will present this slide I'll introduce
[48:20] Sumida and then we proceed to the quiz audience.
[48:25] Yeah. Yeah.
[48:26] Excellent.
[48:29] Thanks.
[48:29] Yeah these are the questions but basically very simple questions
[48:34] if you want to read through them.
[48:39] These are typical questions that we get every month in.
[48:41] And this will appear live on the screen.
[48:44] The first question will come and then you won't.
[48:46] And live.
[48:47] Yeah yeah that is good.
[48:49] Who is managing that city?
[48:52] This one.
[48:53] It's going into mental first.
[48:56] First then that will be displayed is the tool.
[48:59] Yeah, it's a SaaS application and people have to scan it.
[49:04] Yeah. So your presentation will happen.
[49:09] The presentation will have the keyword right.
[49:11] And the question they'll get, they'll have the
[49:15] all the questions in that and will answer.
[49:18] But we'll have the QR code on the screen.
[49:20] First you have the QR code on this and then show the questions one.
[49:25] It won't be one by one question that have all the questions and their answer.
[49:28] Okay, okay, well then I can do one by one.
[49:32] We didn't talk about one by one.
[49:35] Does it have to be hard to read
[49:38] if you put them all in the okay.
[49:42] Okay.
[49:42] Time the question and we see the poll, then the question.
[49:45] You see the poll the second time per question.
[49:49] Next question.
[49:50] Yeah okay.
[49:51] That's a good.
[49:51] Second one minute time out. Whatever.
[49:54] Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea.
[49:57] I'll discuss with Madeline, make sure we have it configured like that.
[50:02] Okay, but you need some help with that.
[50:06] And she's agreed to help.
[50:09] Okay.
[50:11] Yeah.
[50:12] So we have these 505.
[50:18] Next.
[50:21] And then this is the Q&A
[50:23] for the slide once more.
[50:39] This.
[50:53] Is that all that?
[50:59] I'll take this camera
[51:00] and demand your information.
[51:12] So then this is a final slide
[51:14] where the audience have a chance to ask the panelist questions.
[51:18] So we need help.
[51:20] Someone to carry the mic to the audience with the weights and volunteers.
[51:24] And an email to Nikita. Couple of volunteers.
[51:27] Yeah.
[51:28] Okay, I, I can also follow up with. Yeah.
[51:31] And by the way, she's also a team commissioner now.
[51:36] Nikita volunteered last time.
[51:38] Oh, nice.
[51:39] She's also a daughter.
[51:42] Yeah, daughter.
[51:43] There was one more girl. Yeah. Yeah.
[51:46] So that she's also joining team commission from this year.
[51:50] This is your daughter?
[51:54] Yeah.
[51:55] Yes. That's
[51:56] the audience engagement. Oh.
[51:59] So she has got three minutes.
[52:01] Five minutes?
[52:02] Yes. And?
[52:06] And we have the Q&A
[52:09] session for the audience for this,
[52:13] they can ask.
[52:15] Last time we had to cut it off.
[52:17] At some point when we run out of time.
[52:20] What will typically says.
[52:22] Please hold on to your questions after the session is over.
[52:25] The panelists will be here to answer your questions.
[52:31] Will you be saying that?
[52:33] So that's the end.
[52:35] And yeah, basically then I hand it over to the okay.
[52:42] This is good.
[52:43] Good.
[52:45] Plan is good. Yeah. Yes.
[52:47] So solid. Yeah.
[52:49] Very good update.
[52:52] Thank you.
[52:55] Public comment.
[52:56] Yeah.
[52:58] No. Speakers.
[52:59] Chair.
[53:07] So. September.
[53:17] So you'll promote the event that
[53:20] you will promote our event in that.
[53:22] Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
[53:23] You will make sure that all that.
[53:27] Yeah.
[53:27] All the chairs taking that and and all their families.
[53:31] All the council members.
[53:32] Commissioner. Report.
[53:34] I'll be going through Commissioner report.
[53:37] Yeah.
[53:37] Yeah.
[53:40] Yes. Actually, there are three people who come
[53:42] to the mayor's meeting with the commissioners.
[53:50] Tina, Kirsten, person.
[53:53] And then one more.
[53:56] Someone who's
[53:59] takes down all the. Lauren.
[54:01] The city clerk. Yeah. Okay.
[54:04] Well, we'll send it with either Kristen or Tina.
[54:07] Okay.
[54:08] Yeah.
[54:11] We had a couple of meetings
[54:15] for Economic Development Committee.
[54:18] Oh, I don't know.
[54:19] Are we going on to the.
[54:22] Yeah.
[54:22] Let's see which staff and commission reports.
[54:25] Yeah. Yeah.
[54:27] What is next?
[54:28] Yeah. Staff and commission reports.
[54:31] So I think we are in meeting.
[54:34] Right? Yeah. There was no meeting. Okay. There was no
[54:38] commissioner reports, basically.
[54:40] I attended the EDC
[54:43] committee meeting.
[54:47] They formed a lot of different subcommittees,
[54:50] and they're assigning it to people.
[54:53] But one of the issues.
[54:59] Yeah,
[55:01] I think the.
[55:04] The subcommittees
[55:06] need to be sort of enabled.
[55:10] Right.
[55:11] If someone needs to set a breakdown,
[55:12] things up, not happening in the subcommittees at this point,
[55:16] there are quite a few subcommittees, but they're not that one.
[55:21] Well, they just pick the subcommittee members last in the last year.
[55:26] So someone needs to enable that.
[55:28] So many subcommittees are there,
[55:31] five or 6 or 7?
[55:35] Six subcommittees
[55:36] and not enough people to be in all this option.
[55:40] So. Oh don't have you not don't have.
[55:42] I mean the committee is fixed size
[55:45] is the committee say.
[55:51] 7 to 8 people.
[55:53] It's not totally in the EDC.
[55:58] Like six, seven, seven.
[55:59] Yeah.
[56:01] So yeah.
[56:03] And then
[56:06] last week there was a Cupertino women luncheon.
[56:10] I think that that one of my objective was to promote the cybersecurity event.
[56:16] How was that?
[56:17] If there are a lot of presidents.
[56:19] Yeah. Yeah.
[56:19] There were there are quite a few.
[56:23] But not just I found that it's not just a business.
[56:26] Women, someone, some people from outside the city of Atlanta.
[56:30] Oh, oh.
[56:31] So the guys are also allowed to attend?
[56:34] No, no.
[56:36] The intent that participation is for the
[56:41] business with business women.
[56:43] And then Daniel sends out invitation to the EDC
[56:46] members EDC.
[56:49] I joined as a ADC member and whoever has got it.
[56:53] I think he invited some commissioners also.
[56:57] There were
[56:57] there was one more commissioner, and then we had the mayor and
[57:04] city clerk. And
[57:06] Tina, he knows
[57:10] city manager.
[57:13] Yeah.
[57:14] So that actually it was a pretty good presentation.
[57:19] For some women business owner perspective.
[57:22] Okay.
[57:23] That brought in a special speaker for this.
[57:27] And also the discussion.
[57:30] It wasn't a discussion.
[57:31] It was a presentation.
[57:32] On what on
[57:35] basically how to identify
[57:39] for people where their
[57:43] shortcomings are from
[57:45] a thinking perspective and how to work on those.
[57:48] Yeah.
[57:49] Yeah. Basically,
[57:52] I thought it was pretty good.
[57:54] The speaker was really good.
[57:57] Was it at Community Hall?
[57:59] Yeah. Do you go to that?
[58:02] No. You are not.
[58:04] Yeah.
[58:07] No. Yeah.
[58:08] I don't attend. I cannot.
[58:11] No, no.
[58:12] That business.
[58:13] Oh, I didn't know anything about it.
[58:17] So that's my commissioner support.
[58:22] So I can add I
[58:25] last two commissioners meeting.
[58:26] I talked about that.
[58:30] John Thomas,
[58:32] and then I sent an email to.
[58:38] Mayor Katie.
[58:39] And then I ran into her on City
[58:42] Hall, and I told her once more.
[58:45] She said, send it with CC to all the council members.
[58:49] I've done that.
[58:50] But we missed the sweet spot when John Turner
[58:54] was in the waiting to be seen right now.
[58:58] He'll be very busy.
[58:59] That time was the best time. Yeah.
[59:02] I became official CEO. Yes.
[59:04] Now you'll be over. Well.
[59:06] Yeah. So.
[59:07] But anyway.
[59:07] So male more and Tina.
[59:10] They were invited in Tim Cook's farewell.
[59:15] Oh. They attended. They did? Yeah.
[59:17] They attended.
[59:18] They went. Oh, they attended that.
[59:21] They are always invites for their people invited us
[59:25] and I think well more and Tina both were there.
[59:29] Both went there. No, this is not.
[59:31] There may be more people I know.
[59:32] When you said upon us.
[59:34] Who do you mean?
[59:35] Apple invited from the city of Portland City.
[59:40] So they.
[59:41] I know that Tina and Mayor Owen attended.
[59:45] Best attended that based on Apple invitation.
[59:49] Okay.
[59:51] Yeah, there might know more people.
[59:52] No no no no no.
[59:54] This because it's headquartered in
[59:57] any major event.
[59:59] Apple invited the mayor and city manager.
[1:00:02] This is not the first time when Apple Park was opened.
[1:00:05] They told that time I think it was
[1:00:09] Liang or Steven Scarf.
[1:00:11] They, the city manager went.
[1:00:13] Yeah.
[1:00:14] So because in the chance meeting there is mentioned.
[1:00:17] Right?
[1:00:17] So they always invite any major.
[1:00:21] Major.
[1:00:22] I think it's very good to see.
[1:00:25] I saw the photographs. It was very nice. It was very nice.
[1:00:28] I see.
[1:00:28] So do you go to the invite in one developer conference?
[1:00:34] No. That one.
[1:00:37] There is no connection, right?
[1:00:41] Apple developer conference.
[1:00:43] It's mostly technical.
[1:00:45] Yeah.
[1:00:46] No, I'm talking about Danny or somebody.
[1:00:48] Oh, yeah. Not.
[1:00:50] This is.
[1:00:50] Dave invited us for other purposes, but, yeah, we've been invited before.
[1:00:55] That's nice.
[1:00:56] We all with photographs, but with Tim Cook and.
[1:01:02] Yeah.
[1:01:03] Did you get that from LinkedIn?
[1:01:06] Thanks.
[1:01:08] It was very nice to see.
[1:01:10] Is it
[1:01:11] city of LinkedIn or which LinkedIn.
[1:01:15] Okay.
[1:01:15] Now now you're asking to. 18.
[1:01:22] Oh oh.
[1:01:24] You are okay.
[1:01:26] Yeah. Yes.
[1:01:28] No, this was not the fair.
[1:01:29] This was invited in the conference.
[1:01:34] This is.
[1:01:35] No, no.
[1:01:35] Well, also, the must be part of the invitation.
[1:01:37] They're doing right.
[1:01:39] Yeah. Which ones did you get? Invitation.
[1:01:41] We did a special one where they were.
[1:01:45] They had a
[1:01:47] local government initiative that they were pulling out.
[1:01:50] So they actually invited all of the regional
[1:01:54] CTOs and CIOs.
[1:01:56] Yeah.
[1:01:57] Yeah.
[1:01:58] No, I know every year Apple developer conference, they invite
[1:02:03] city of you know, they must have this is the developer conference.
[1:02:06] Yeah. Okay.
[1:02:07] They also get invitations to finger.
[1:02:11] Yeah. Yeah.
[1:02:12] Like see you in the next time.
[1:02:14] And all right. Apple is doing that. But
[1:02:17] they cannot invite everybody.
[1:02:19] No no but it's posted. Yeah. Right.
[1:02:21] So host city there. Yeah.
[1:02:23] It makes sense.
[1:02:24] They have been doing this for ever. Okay.
[1:02:28] What is that?
[1:02:29] Okay. We are done. Right. Done.
[1:02:31] Yeah.
[1:02:32] Actually, it took interest.
[1:02:35] Could have even talked to them.
[1:02:36] Yeah.
[1:02:39] Because what
[1:02:40] I know, based on the press coverage,
[1:02:43] I saw John Turner and Cook were very relaxed this time.
[1:02:47] They were going on and everybody.
[1:02:50] I know few people who had the discussions
[1:02:53] with them, and they had put pictures on LinkedIn.
[1:02:56] Wow. He spent five minutes with me.
[1:02:58] Somebody said, yeah. He looked at my demo.
[1:03:02] Somebody said, oh, they were asking me what I'm studying.
[1:03:05] And so this year, because of the transition, they were more relaxed at
[1:03:09] worldwide developers.
[1:03:15] Thank you.
[1:03:17] Oh, yeah.
[1:03:23] Okay.
[1:03:23] Thank you. Yeah. Thank.