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Good evening, everyone. Welcome to our town council workshop. Today is February 15, 2023.

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If you could please take roll. Council Member Ramirez.

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Here. Council Member Lord.

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Here. Council Member Duncan.

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Here. Vice Mayor Callaghan.

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Here. Mayor Mirabat.

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Present.

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We have a quorum.

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If you could please rise with me and join me for pleasant allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for

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which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Good evening, everyone. Welcome to our workshop. We'll get to talk a little bit about our

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little pool a little bit. First, I'd just like to welcome our new communications manager.

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Welcome. Just so you know, you don't have to wear a tie to our meetings. We're very casual,

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okay? So you can relax. All right. With that, I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to

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Ralph, sir.

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Thank you, Mr. Council. And the purpose of this workshop is just to provide some guidance

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to town staff. And I just want to do a little brief history. As you recall, one

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of the items that early on that we did with the American Rescue Plan funds, we commissioned

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STANTEC to do a full assessment of our qualifiers that we call the pool. Since that time, they've

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actually gone to our Parks and Recreation Committee, provided a detailed platform presentation.

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And several months ago at a council meeting, provided a report to the council. So that's

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where we're at today. And then I also like to go ahead and introduce we have

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Etienne Bergeron, our Parks and Recreation Director. We have Michelle Horne, our aquatic

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facility manager. And then we also have Sean Campell from STANTEC and Terry Glunt, as

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I call the pool guy. That has spent several days and weeks over in our pool. It was

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the author of the report that we have here tonight, Mayor and members of the council.

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Tonight, what we're really seeking is just some a little bit of guidance where

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the size of the pool, we know that there's a Parks and Recreation Commission advisory.

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And also the location of the pool. So with that, Mayor, I'll just open it up for any questions.

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Do you have any further questions from the council?

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If needed, we could do a presentation. We've done it before with the council. I mean, it's

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I really don't think we need to. Yeah, you're right. I mean, all right, bottom line,

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pool's old, not worth fixing. It needs to be replaced. Okay. Many disagree with that.

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So with that, I'll open it up. I'd like to, I guess, recognize the Vice Mayor. He's been

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working with the town advisory committee. So if you don't mind starting with you, you

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have the most knowledge I think of this and your thoughts and ideas.

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Sure. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Been working on this project for a long time. This even

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goes back before the assessment of the pool when we commissioned a architectural firm to

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evaluate the possibility of building a new aquatic center, right? Because we knew even

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back then that the pool was on its last leg. And through that whole process of public

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meetings and park committee involvement, that process, I think the price tag on that was

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about $15 million and it was just not feasible for us to move forward.

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At that time, we didn't have the 16 acres, right? So there was always a question of where

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were we going to put a new aquatic center, right? But lo and behold with the acquisition

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of the 16 acres, this opened up a whole brand new possibility. So we approached,

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we revisited the idea, right? Now that we have more flexibility in a location, we're

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able to get Stantec to evaluate the pool for us, right? To give us a strong analysis

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of where we stood. We always knew that the pool was in dire need. But obviously we

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want to thank Stantec for their very detailed report on the pool that they've

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shared with all of us. And basically, there were a couple of options that were

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presented to the Parks and Recreational Advisory Committee based on the report.

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One, we had the opportunity to repair the current pool. It would have taken

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extensive repairs and cost almost as much money as a new pool would. And one of

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the questions that were asked of the firm was what is the guarantee that those repairs

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and modifications would last for a period of time? And of course, there is no guarantee

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just because of the basic foundation of the existing pool. So based on that

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information, the Parks and Recreational Advisory Committee made the determination

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that it would probably be in the best interest of the community and financially

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that we move forward with constructing a new pool. So the question then is where,

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right? We could construct a new pool in the existing Coloritch Park, right?

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But what are the benefits there? What are the drawbacks? One, you have to shut

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the pool down for a period of two years or whatever during the construction phase,

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right? So the community would be without a pool. The second part is that the

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price, the pricing, which was a ballpark preliminary pricing for a pool that we

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chose that the Parks and Recreational Advisory Committee chose that they

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thought would be the best for the community was about $1.8 million

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a slightly more. But that didn't include the construction of ancillary buildings,

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right? So if we demoed the existing pool, put a new pool there, we would still

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have to spend additional funding $800 to a million for locker rooms, bathrooms,

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offices, equipment rooms, right? So the initial price of the pool looks

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okay until then you take into consideration that there's about another

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million dollars worth of cost that would be associated with rebuilding the pool

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in its current location. After analyzing that, we looked at the 16-acre property.

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What are the benefits of having the pool at the 16-acre property? One,

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we're building our municipal building there. There's going to possibly be a

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community center there. We're building from the ground up, so we're not rebuilding

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in the same area. Two or three, the funding for the, it generated through

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ARPA funds, which means that we don't have to touch the bond money to build

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the pool. So the pool in itself that cost that $1.8 to $2 million through

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ARPA money, but now we can share the ancillary building from the community

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center or the municipal center, right? So you have, we're already going to be

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building bathrooms. If we have a community center that has a recreational element

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to it, you're already going to be building bathrooms. You're already going to

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be building locker rooms. You're already going to be building a concession.

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You're already going to be adding all of these ancillary support facilities,

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right, that we can piggyback off the pool. The other benefit is that we can keep

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the current pool open during this construction process. So the community

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basically doesn't lose anything while we go through this process if the

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decision was made to add the pool to the 16-acres. When the Parks and

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Recreational Advisory Committee looked at all of this information,

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looked at the pros and the cons from all three options, rebuilding the existing

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pool, building a new pool in the current location, or building a new pool in

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the 16-acres, the decision that the Parks and Recreational Advisory

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Committee came out with is that it would be probably in the best interest

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financially and in the interest of the community to build it in the 16-acres.

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We also looked at the type of pool, and what we determined that the best pool

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for us would be a 25 by 25, which is a 25-yard or a short course pool, right,

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but the depth of the pool would be deep enough to be able to accommodate

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other programming, not only swimming, but water polo, SCUBA certification,

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lifeguard certification, and obviously swim lessons and all those types of

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things. But by building this pool to regulation standards, which our

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current pool is not regulation. So we can't hold sanctioned meets there.

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We can't hold any sanctioned high school meets. We can't hold any

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sanctioned club meets because it doesn't meet that criteria.

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By building a regulation pool, 25 by 25 eight lanes, we have the ability

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to be able to use that facility to host swim meets, host high school meets,

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host district regional meets, right? The other thing, too, is the parking,

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right? If we're going to be able to have those types of events at this pool,

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we're going to have the parking available in the 16 acres, right?

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If we rebuild in the existing space, we are still going to be challenged

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by the parking that we have in that park. And if we have a swim meet

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on a Saturday that you have the same on the same Saturday as the

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soccer clubs and, you know, it just it becomes chaos and everybody's

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parking in everybody's yard. So based on all of that, that's the

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recommendation that came out of the Parks Committee after we analyzed

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all of the options and, you know, what they thought was in the best

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interest, both financially and in the best interest of the community.

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So just...

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Yes, DJ, you recognized?

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor.

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That's a wonderful position.

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Two questions that I would have, and I'm not opposed at all to the

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consideration of having a pool, a regulation size pool included in, you

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know, what the final 16 acres plan would be. Two questions, mainly

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one question and then a comment. Have we looked into or do we know

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what the cost would be to remove or to fill in the current pool

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at the time in which we would move to the new location?

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That cost has not been considered at this time.

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Okay. And then my only other comment would be, I think, you know, if we are

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looking at whether it is utilizing the 16 acres for this purpose and

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kind of starting from the ground up and or repurposing in the future,

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you know, where the current pool is that would no longer be there.

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I think the town, it would behoove us to consider and think about

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future uses potentially such as like a splash and play area for town

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and children residents, something that we don't have or, you know, items of

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that nature that are water items, water activities that aren't

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necessarily swimming that we don't have currently within our town that

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I think would benefit our town residents. So that's my two

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cents on that.

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Yeah, I appreciate that. The Parks and Recreational Advisory

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Committee has already started looking into options for that space.

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Nothing has been finalized or is still in the very infancy of the idea

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process, but some ideas that have been tossed around.

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And I do like the idea of a splash and play.

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I do like that idea, but some ideas that have been tossed around

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now, of course, or pickleball courts. This seems to be the huge craze

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today.

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But yes, we would repurpose that area, you know, to enhance the town,

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you know, whether it be pickleball courts, splash and play, additional

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parking in the park, you know, those types of options.

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Awesome. I ultimately, so like I said, if we end up ultimately choosing as a

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council to go forward with with a regulation size pool at the

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68ers, and we're tapping into ARPA funding for said pool as opposed to

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bond money, then I think we might want to also consider having

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additional amenities that are water based for children that are not

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swimming in addition to the pool.

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That's it. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right. You know, I agree with the recommendation of moving the pool

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over there.

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And I just want to talk about a couple of things.

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The councilman Duncan's point of perhaps maybe including a splash and play

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area in that pool.

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The ARPA money that we have, we have to kind of really look at that as a

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whole, where we're going to spend it at.

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And not to mention that, you know, where is a splash and play more conducive

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to encourage activity, you know, is it in the center of our new

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green space or the tucked away by a pool someplace.

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You know, those are things that we can always incorporate a splash

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and play in our 16 acre park that's going to be going in as well.

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The main question I had is, you know, I love the idea that we can

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use ARPA money instead of bond money.

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I mean, that's just like using your uncle's credit card.

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The only question is, and do we take advantage of it?

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If your uncle gives you a credit card, you obviously want to take advantage of

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the fullest of your ability, especially because there are rumblings

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now that some of the senators are going to bring in forward.

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Hey, if you haven't spent this ARPA money yet, too late,

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you're not going to be able to use it.

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So we have to make sure we spend it in a timely manner as well.

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At least that's just my understanding.

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The recommend...

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The recommendation on the size of the pool was at 25 yards or meters by 25. Could you give

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me a little bit more on why you believe that's better than having a full competition pool?

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Well, so there are two types of sanctioned swimming pools, right? You have a long course

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and a short course. Back in the day, they used to be seasons, right? When I used to

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swim competitive, there used to be seasons. There would be a long course and a short course.

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The 25-yard, so it's a 25-yard pool, which is the short course pool, versus a 50-meter

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pool, which is a long course pool, which is they call an Olympic-sized pool, right? And

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of course, that's, you know, that's the type of events that are held in the Olympics

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is on a long course pool. You know, what are the benefits? I mean, there's really

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not a whole lot of benefits to spending, and I get the arc of money, right? But there's

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not a whole lot of benefits that are different between a long course and a short course pool,

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right? Because in a short, with all of, and we had this discussion in very, very

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heavily in the Parks and Recreational Advisory Committee meeting, you know, we can accommodate

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all of the programming that we need to in a short course pool, right? Competitive swimming,

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water polo, like I mentioned, you know, the SCUBA certification, the Lifeguard certification,

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which was very important to our aquatics coordinator, right? Swim lessons, you know, with the

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zero entrance, the adult, all of the adult programming, right? All of that can be

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accommodated within a short course pool. If we go to a long course pool, I don't

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believe that we gain any additional benefits through, one, the extra cost in understanding

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the ARPA. But the main, my main issue there is that now I'm taking up twice as much space

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in our community center, right? That we're not going to gain that much more programming,

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right? So it's not like, in a short course pool, you can do 15 things, and if you have

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a long course pool, you can do 30 things. No. We can do everything that we need to in

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a short course pool, and a long course pool is not going to gain us any additional programming,

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right? The only thing that it would gain is in swimming. That's really the end of

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it. But I've always taken the position, and I took this position in the parks meeting,

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is that a short course pool is a certain size, right? If you double that size, I just don't

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want our 16 acres in our community center to be about a pool, because a long course

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pool takes up a lot of space, a lot of space, you know, whereas a short course pool takes

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up half the space and still accommodates. Short course is 25 meters, long is 50.

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Short course is 25 yards. Okay, yards. Long course is 50 meters.

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Okay. So it's about double. It's about double, correct.

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Rafa, I mean, I don't know what the involvement of our, I mean, we have Michelle here. She was our,

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I guess, our pool manager and kind of knows swimming very well as well.

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Was, did she give her input for the advisory committee?

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She did, yes. She spent two meetings that I know of, and I really appreciate your involvement,

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because she was very much involved in the process. It's not like she just came

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and made a presentation. She did come and make a presentation, but she spent at least two

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full meetings with us. And as the committee was going through this process, she was offering

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her ideas and making sure that as we were considering what the best option

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were, that we were accommodating all of the things that she needed in terms of her total

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programming. One thing I'm not clear on. So you can have like 16 different events there.

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You can have water polo, regular swimming, companies like that. What about simultaneously?

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Does having a larger pool give you the ability to have the utilization without

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overlap? Is that an issue right now? Michelle, do you want to come up for a minute?

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I was going to say Mayor and Members of the Council, we have Michelle and also Terry,

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if you come up too. Terry, our consultant as well, because obviously we have wonderful

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aquatic managers, Michelle, who's there, boots on the ground every day. And then we also have

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the advantage of Terry, that this is what he does strictly for Stantic throughout the

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entire state. So whatever answers you get. I don't want to put you on the spot, but

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again, we have our Uncle's credit card. Okay, I keep saying it that way. But so let's get the

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best thing possible. So if you just give me a share of your opinion with the council, please.

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Just touch it button there. There we go. So as of right now, we do have a lot of teams that

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want to use the pool. And they currently either cannot, because we don't have the time for

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them, the space for them. So yes, a 50 meter pool would allow us to host multiple teams or

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even, for example, our Cutler Bay water polo team. They right now cannot have the boys

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and the girls playing at the same time, because there's just not space for them.

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So they have to rotate maybe the boys Monday, Wednesday, Friday, the girls Tuesday, Thursday,

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things like that. So we could use the space. We could host a lot more teams. We just

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currently only have two recreational and one currently one high school because

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coral reef does not currently want to swim at our pool. They want to swim at like a pool that

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is sanctioned for water polo. Since ours is not, they don't feel it makes sense to even practice at

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ours. Okay, Kerry, you want to give your input as well? Of course. And yeah, Michelle and I did

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a lot of work together when we were doing the original assessment. So she was heavily involved.

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I'm going to just point out that the 25 meter by 25 yard pool

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does allow you in the yard direction, sanctioned for Florida High School Athletic Association

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events in the metric is sanctioned by US swimming as well as FINA and Olympics. So

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they do tend to use different nomenclature, so to speak. But the one advantage of a 50 meter

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pool by a 25 yard will allow you to swim 10 lanes on one side of the 50 meters and now

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10 lanes on the other side of the 50 meters. So you now have 20 lane capability in the 25 yard

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direction, which would allow you to streamline your events. You could have 10 lanes for boys

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events, 10 lanes for girls events going on simultaneously. It really streamlines it or

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you can have tournaments with multiple schools coming in and being able to take advantage of all

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of those. So that's the one advantage. Obviously the flip side of that is bigger pool, more equipment,

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larger restrooms, things like that. But the 25 meter does allow you to do certain activities on

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half the pool and then do different activities on the other, as well as larger events and more

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streamlined efficient meets. Are there, how many other Olympic sized pools are there in the South

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State area? Oh, there's lots. And seriously, there are a lot. Most of the colleges and universities

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are all at 50 meter. Almost all of them, some have multiple pools at 50 meters.

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I'm going to just start with Broward because I know them like the back of my

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update County South State. Actually, I'm looking at only South State. Yeah. Southridge

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have a 50 meter. They only 25 by 25. No, Southridge, Southridge Park. They didn't know.

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Oh, no, they don't even. They don't have a pool yet. No, they didn't build it.

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Well, no reason not have a pool. Southdade has a pool, but it is Miami.

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Miami Dade College has a long course pool. The University of Miami has a long course pool.

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I believe Gulliver Academy has a long. They used to have a short course pool,

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but I believe they upgraded to a long course pool. And I believe

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Branson Everglades has a long course pool. I'm not sure about Palmer.

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Yeah, I don't either. I know that the Hall of Fame does in Fort Lauderdale,

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Coral Springs Aquatic does, Deerfield and Pompano both do.

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Back in the day when I used to swim competitive, we had a lot more long course pools,

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but those have all gone away now. Tammy Ammi is short course.

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Okay. Yes. And again, my concern is we have, we only have one chance to build a pool.

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The last one we have 60 some years old. So I want to make sure we're going to do something

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that's going to benefit the community. And quite honestly, Ralph, as I'm sitting here

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thinking about this, is there a way that we could perhaps leverage something,

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working with our partners in the county to see if they would be able to do,

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perhaps kick in on this. I don't know. It is kind of far reaching.

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We have this ARPA money, roughly about, you know, $10 million that we're not

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spending on stormwater projects. And from your perspective, what would you say was the best use?

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Would it be, I mean, I guess the 25 yard pools, about 5 million and 50 would be about

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7 to 8 million, is that correct? Yeah.

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Okay. So it's not quite double, but it is a couple million more.

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Right. Okay. I think, Mayor, just, you know, just a little 30 second recap of the ARPA,

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you know, we did receive $21 million. We already committed 11 million

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improvement projects. We have 10 million for what we call general government use.

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Just last council meeting, we authorized $800,000 for sidewalks. So now,

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and then we also commissioned this, this study. And we have later on tonight,

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we have a couple of ITBs for retrofitting some park, I mean, some park lights,

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both Bellaire and Lakes by the Bay Park. And then we also have some other items to do some

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resurfacing on our playgrounds that don't have the porn play or the,

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yeah, they have the porn play, but we're going to AstroTurf because, you know,

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the porn place is kind of falling apart. So we do have still some funds available

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in the $10 million, you know, call it general services, you know, allotment in our ARPA.

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I think, you know, yes, we will maximize, we're not going to be one of the ones that

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return money. That's not going to be our goal, you know. So if anything, yes,

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I think it's a good, healthy conversation to have or, you know, you have the

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Parks and Rights Committee, we have our staff to look at it, you know, 25 by 25 by the two meters,

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a new wrinkle as well or suggestion, you know, a splash pad. I mean, you know,

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some ideas of what to do with the other side. We don't know what to do yet if we got to decide,

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you know, if it's going to be in the 16 acres, then we could kind of repurpose

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that area and that Cutleridge Park, you know, for different things. And we know that we've

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had, you know, emails back and forth about having an official pickleball court. Those aren't

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cheap. All right. So we have that. So there's some uses that we could use in terms of the $10

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million. But I think another important part, Mary's going to be too, is we do a great job

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leveraging the ARPA funds, searching for other grant funds. For example, FURDAF, you know,

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FURDAF, this is right up FURDAF's alley. It's a recreational community to get people out of

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their homes and do something. And that's right up their alley. If you recall, even when we

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reconstructed Franjo Park, we received a $250,000 grant for FURDAF. We also received over $500,000

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for FURDAF for the Canoe Kayak launch to Lakes by the Bay. So we could certainly, talking to our

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grant school, this is certainly eligible for that type of money. So there might be even some more

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cost savings that maybe we don't have to draw down as much from the ARPA if we could leverage

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that with state money for the pool. So there's different opportunities there as well.

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Can I offer this suggestion? The first decision would be if we're going to build the new pool

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on the 16 acres. If I could offer this suggestion, once we choose the architectural firm,

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let's have them come back with a schematic drawing showing a short course and a long course

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pool. What would that design look like? My concern is that the long course would stick out like a sore

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thumb, but I could be totally wrong. They could come back and design a long course pool that

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looks fantastic, and then that takes all my concern away. Or we could look and say, oh,

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that short course is way too small. So I don't know. If we could do that, and then that

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gives us the ability to make a final decision after we've looked at both options.

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What do you think about the timing of that, Ralph? Because we don't have forever to

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commit this money, so let's slow it down too much waiting for architectural drawings.

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I think we could always ask the design firms that we're going to go through that process.

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You're going to hear that report shortly at six o'clock. We did put in the RFQ and the RFP

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that there may be an aquatic facility, so they understand that. We are in the process

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of issuing a request for information RFI. We want to hold off on the RFI just to get some clear

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direction if it's going to be there or not, because we don't know until we had the sunshine

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meeting that is it going to be in the 16 acres or going to be in the current site.

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I'm getting the consensus that it's going to be the 16 acres, so we understand that direction.

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And I think that we could always have the design firms draw up, hey, this option A or option B,

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what will it look like? How much is it going to encompass? But also, it does come with a cost.

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As Terry mentioned, our consultant, that it's more equipment, more items as well. But certainly,

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we could visit that with the firms, meaning that we have a window. There's a window as soon

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as like tomorrow, believe it or not, meaning that we will issue the RFI to the shortlisted

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firms. And we could tell them to design A or B. Okay. So, and again, counsel, just to

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narrow the scope of this discussion, is there a consensus that we would like to see the pool

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on the new 16 acres site?

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Is there, okay, that was the main point. And we're still, I guess, waiting on making

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a decision on the size determination. I think we haven't quite hit that yet, at least from

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my perspective. I really haven't. Let me ask the rest of the council. I mean, if you have

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an opinion on one way or the other at this point, Councilman Duncan.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My only fear of utilizing the larger pool is that it would eat up

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too much real estate in the 16 acres.

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Same as Vice Mayor Cowan, which is as duly noted. Councilman Lord, do you have an opinion on the

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side?

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Yes, I can explain.

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Well, I think if we can get the biggest one, I think would be better. I mean, if we have

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the funding, but it's sufficient with the smaller one. So I'm kind of good either way,

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but I would be interested in seeing the renderings.

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Councilman Ramirez.

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I'd be curious to see what would totally be encompassed in the large pool and also in

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the small one. Are we going to have diving platforms or is it just going to be swim

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meet type facility? And what is the best benefit for us? Is this going to generate

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more community involvement or are we looking at some funding or school activities, something

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along that line? I would be interested in knowing the difference between the small and

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the larger pool and what maintenance costs would be yearly, approximate maintenance costs.

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It could take us over or outside of a budget. So we'd have to start looking at money for

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that too. So that's the only thing I'd like to see.

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All right. Thank you. And one other consensus. I think we've all agreed that we're

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going to replace the pool. Yes. Okay. So that's too important.

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I don't know if we've given you enough yet. You need more from us today.

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I think we didn't. I think we have enough. I think another point to make, again, our

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existing pool, the chiller and the heater are broken. One of the things that I recommend

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now that we know that direction, the council wants to provide the town staff of going

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to 16 acres. As Vice Mayor mentioned, the advantage of having that on the 16 acres

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is that you still have a pool. But we still have a pool that's either too hot or too cold.

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It depends on when it is. So in talking to Michelle and E.T. and our consultants, the

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pumps that are, correct me if I mispronounce them, the pumps that are there, the refrigerant

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pumps and the heater pumps are Sambionts, which is unique, meaning that they have like

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a sole source, right? And you'll hear me say that later on. In order to replace those,

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it's going to be approximately $57,000 to $60,000. My recommendation would be if we're

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making that decision and go ahead to 16 acres, then I would recommend that the school had

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to make that investment on the existing pool. The only reason, because you know,

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Michelle and E.T. have done a great job, that they contacted the vendor that the

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warranties and can be transferred over to the new site, and they would be doing the transfer.

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So it's not like, you know, we're going to be spending it, and it's not going to come back.

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But at least that would make Michelle's life so much easier, because again,

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Michelle, that's why we want her involved in the process. She's on the front line. She hears it

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every day. So my recommendation would be, and again, that'll be a future agenda item

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that will come back with a sole source letter from the pumps vendor, and I'm glad to hear

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that they would honor their warranty, and they could be used at the other location as well.

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That makes a lot of sense. And without a doubt, as Councilman, I mean, the Vice

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Mayor Callahan said, you can't go two years without a pool. Our community needs one.

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So that certainly makes sense to me. And I look forward to seeing that in the future

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agenda item for approval. Thank you.

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Any other questions or comments on this issue?

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Just one more real quick, just to kind of emphasize to Councilmember Romero's comment.

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Michelle, how many lifeguards do you have currently at our Color Ridge pool?

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We currently have 10.

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10.

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Well, we're short-staffed, but we've eight.

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You're short-staffed.

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Yes.

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So if we went to a larger pool, that means 20 lifeguards, right?

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And we're having trouble staffing today.

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It's not that we're having trouble. We just haven't posted that we have positions open.

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We have people who just left for school.

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You would need twice as many lifeguards or surfacing for just the double service area.

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They can't see another 25.

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I mean, it would, I would have to, I haven't done the math for that, but

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they each can, I think, Terry, you do know the,

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I'm trying to think off the top of my head. I don't know if we need double per se,

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maybe an additional five or six.

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Yeah, I think it's proportional, but I think it's actually double, I think.

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Yeah, it depends how much space at the time we're utilizing.

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If we have the small section being used and the two big sections,

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we would need probably four to five lifeguards on a shift at a time.

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But if we only have, it would honestly depend on what activities we're holding at the time.

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So a weekend, we wouldn't need maybe as many.

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It would have to be something I'd have to sit down and look at and go over the area.

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And I certainly understand the vice mayor's point about

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maintenance costs, which includes labor costs.

417
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,320
Well, right, right.

418
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:36,400
And my point also is that, yes, the lifeguard is proportional to, you know, the pool itself.

419
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,480
But, you know, the other point that I just want to make is that it's going to be

420
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,280
increasing staff. It's going to be an increase in lifeguards.

421
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,880
And if on a Saturday, our intention is to open up the entire pool,

422
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,040
then we have three lifeguards calling sick.

423
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,000
All of a sudden, you have to close part of the pool, right?

424
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,600
So there are repercussions.

425
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,440
If we can't staff properly, you know, if you don't have, you know,

426
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,160
the right amount of lifeguards to cover the entire pool.

427
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,720
So the reason I bring that up is I didn't want everybody to be under the misconception

428
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,240
that, hey, we have twice the pool.

429
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,280
We can still do it with 10 lifeguards right now.

430
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600
We have to increase staff, you know, proportionally.

431
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,080
All right, any other points?

432
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,760
No. Guys, thank you very much for providing that information.

433
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,240
Thank you.

434
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,520
Thank you for coming to us for the last minute.

435
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,360
E.T., thanks for your work with this.

436
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,880
I think folks come and do this for us.

437
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,400
Ralph, anything else?

438
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,640
No, I think, I think Mayor Murr's Council, like you mentioned,

439
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,800
I want to thank the other consultants and also, you know,

440
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,280
E.T. and Michelle, because they're in the front lines.

441
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,360
And this is a great discussion.

442
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,560
You know, we needed to have this.

443
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,040
That's why we want to make this in the workshop atmosphere.

444
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,400
So thank you for all the comments.

445
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,880
And the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee members as well.

446
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,720
But they spent a lot of time on this, you know,

447
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,400
at least two or three meetings with Terry,

448
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,520
providing the detailed reports.

449
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,840
So, and again, the detailed reports,

450
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,240
the PowerPoint presentation, and the full engineering

451
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:55,040
report assessment are online,

452
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,960
as well as the folks who view it at home as well.

453
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,920
So thank you, Mayor.

454
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,080
And the one last point that some people have made for,

455
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,000
I just want to bring this up so people know we're listening

456
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,880
about the ability to have larger tournaments,

457
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,120
put Cutler Bay's name on the map.

458
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,080
That's something that's a lot of the,

459
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,760
I guess, the swimming community have put out there.

460
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560
I just want to let them know that, yeah, we heard you on that.

461
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,120
And it will be part of our considerations.

462
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,040
We muddle our way through this.

463
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,840
So again, guys, thank you very much with that.

464
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,000
This workshop is adjourned.