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Public hearing, minutes, adjourned.

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Marine ladies and gentlemen.

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Good morning, fellow directors, staff, my name is Tim McGonagall for those who don't know me.

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I'm chairing today's community the whole meeting and welcome you to today's session.

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Also, I want to acknowledge that today is National Ice Cream Sunday Day.

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So afterwards we'll be going for Peanut Buster Parfays.

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And it's also National Blueberry Day.

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Well, we'll look at the definition whether a Peanut Buster Parfay is a Sunday or not.

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It's in a Sunday Cup.

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With that, awesome.

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And there are blueberries for National Blueberry Day, according to Director Markman.

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So thank you for that.

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But I'd like to acknowledge that the CBRD is on the Unceded Territory of the Quatson, Malahat, Subbasit,

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Halt, Penalicate, Snaminess, Layaxon, Packwitchon, Ditty Dot and Patchy Dot Nations.

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Whose people have watched gently here for thousands of years with thanks.

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With that, Miss Boyd.

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Thank you chair.

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I've been advised that we do have a new business closed item.

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It's both be closed under Community Charter E, Acquisition Disposition of Land and Improvements,

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NG, Litigation or Potential Litigation.

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And that the amendment, if everyone's okay.

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Consensus with that, that the agenda be approved as amended.

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To additional moved seconded, all in favor.

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Opposed if any, those two items will be added to closed.

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With that moving on, Miss Boyd.

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Thank you chair.

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We have the adoption of the minutes of the Committee of Home Meeting of June 10th, 2026.

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Be adopted.

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Do you have time to peruse those Director Markman?

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Any errors or omissions?

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Seeing none, you're going to move them, aren't you?

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Thank you, move by Director Markman, second by Director Beast and all in favor.

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Opposed if any?

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That motion carries. Thank you.

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Next item?

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There it will be no new business arising from the minutes.

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We move to public input period.

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So if anyone would like to have some public input, we're here to listen to your points.

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If you could state your name and please be respectful according to the public input portion that has been published on the agenda.

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Good morning chair.

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I need to.

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My name is Kim Bernardo.

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I'm from Area B.

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Shaweliken, Shonigan Lake.

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Delighted to be here with the topic of drinking water and watershed protection.

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I'd like to share a bit about our unique situation in Area B, which is on today's agenda item 8.2.

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Item 8.3 and so on.

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I'll begin with my conclusion.

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It's all about finding the balance.

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So our lake has different personalities.

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It's a recreational oasis.

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It's a drinking water reservoir.

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And it's a secret third thing when emergencies require firefighting in the area.

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Everyone gets off the lake to make room for the water bombers to come in.

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And scoop gazilines of gallons.

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So what I hope that the board will consider, the committee, the whole will consider today is those personalities of our lake, our drinking water source.

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I also revisited some of the correspondence to the residents of the Shonigan Lake North water system from retired professional.

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Brian Denison.

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So he wrote to us and he said that in and planning treatment solutions for how best to meet V.H.

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He has water quality requirements.

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The Shonigan Lake source presents some additional challenges for a number of historical reasons.

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Human activities in an unprotected watershed area.

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Encroachment of development and influence of septic systems combined with natural aging of Shonigan Lake, result in elevated organic content and seasonal algae blooms.

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So those are just some of the challenges to consider.

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And we hold in both hands drinking water and watershed protection.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Anyone else for public input?

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Welcome.

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Mr. Chair, if I may interrupt, Director Wilson here.

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Sir.

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Yes, I have mentioned that to our parliamentarian.

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Thank you.

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Sorry for the interruption.

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That's quite all right, Mr. Chair. Good morning and good morning to your fellow directors.

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My name is Susan Kaufman and I'm from Selam.

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I would just like to acknowledge the very comprehensive report on climate change that staff and the consultants have put forward.

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I think we're realizing as residents of the valley, the effects of climate change that we're seeing already.

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A very dry May this year.

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June is typically a wet month for us and it was dry as well.

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We really looking forward to hearing the reports that are going to be presented today.

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And I'd also like to acknowledge the very important work of our community groups such as the Shonigan Basin Society.

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I think the value for the dollar that we get from very important historical knowledge by people who have lived here for decades.

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And that knowledge is based in science.

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So I really hope that their important work is supported along with the other groups.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for that.

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And I fail to acknowledge we have two directors online joining us, Director Deck and Director Wilson.

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I'll watch for your hands looking for more public input.

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Ma'am.

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Thank you.

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Chair and Board of Directors.

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My name is Joyce Benson.

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I live in North Calchino and we own property in the Calchino area as well.

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And I would like to, I'm not sure what number it is, but it's to do with the watershed and the funding for water.

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The situation and North Calchino says included.

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And I just would like to make reference to be honest.

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I'm not quite as prepared as I would like to be.

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I learned about this very late last night and I've had a hectic morning.

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So apologize.

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So I would like to propose that there is a technology that is available that is very conducive effective to cleaning up our waterways.

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I'll just dive into it here.

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Our Keiko technology, Keiko is K.I.K.O.

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It's a patented technology and I have introduced it to North Calchino, Council and staff.

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And with regards to quamachin Lake in particular, but there's many other troubled waterways we know on Vancouver Island and around the world.

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Keiko technology is a patented technology that is also applicable for impaired waterways, lake, rivers, golf course, lagoons, etc.

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The Keiko products are non-chemical.

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And proven to remediate and restore impaired waterways of harmful algae blooms, filamentous cyanobacteria, invasive zebra muscles, invasive weeds such as Hydra and curly pond weed.

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And a few Keiko case studies explain the successful results and I do have that information but not for here.

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Why has Keiko technology been successful as opposed to the chemical?

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Firms failures.

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The answer is shown in the document.

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In summary, Keiko pellets are made of basaltic lava and reprocessed in Japan in order to allow low hydrogen energy and mittens.

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It gives the Keiko kilojoules that then activates beneficial microbes to perform the incapitals actual cleanup.

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The empirical data has been repeated in many locations and includes sewage waste.

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We have a utility board series problem, costly problem.

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Includes sewage waste, retention ponds filled with phosphate, sludge, mining waste.

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Why haven't chemical firms adopt similar practices?

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One of the reasons is that chemicals generate an overabundance of energy that actually harm beneficial microbes and their mentality is to kill the microbes.

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With powerful toxic chemicals such as copper sulfates, glycophate, sewage oxygen gas from nanobubbles.

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This practice is old school, but a practice most municipalities are led to believe.

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Modern cleanup technologies based on physics and understanding the action of beneficial microbes.

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One wouldn't kill the bees would you.

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So Keiko's bio energetic solution has proven.

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Your time is up, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Appreciate it.

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If there are no more speakers, if we still have time, yes.

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Thank you.

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And the other speakers in the gallery wish to have input on today's agenda items.

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Seeing none, how are we doing for time, Ms. Boyd?

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We have three minutes left.

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Last chance.

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I think we know who you are. You don't have to introduce yourself again.

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Thank you, Tim.

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Okay. And so this is regarding item 8.5 and based on a discussion I've had this morning.

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Observed emissions have ruled out SSP5-8.5 and the IPCC calls it unlikely.

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Why recommend that scenario as the baseline for all long-term planning instead of the moderate SSP2-4.5?

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Follow up.

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We'll staff commit to pausing this for further review, cost.

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What will the projections cost the community over the next 20 to 30 years?

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And why endorse a planning baseline with financial considerations marked NA and no cost benefit analysis question mark pause?

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This baseline underpins the local area plans you pause until after the election and what is lost by waiting to endorse it until then.

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I did have a longer version, but that's my brief.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for that.

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We don't ask answer questions at the public input, but thank you for having them recorded on our video.

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Seeing no more speakers, I believe we can move on, Ms. Boyd.

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Thank you, Chair. We moved to delegations.

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Thank you.

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Welcome, sir.

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There's a button at the microphone, if you want to push that.

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Perfect.

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Hi, my name is Jerry Diel. I'm 72 years old, and I'm born here in Duncan.

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Okay.

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Just kind of get a little less nervous here for a second.

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We're all friends here, Mr. Deal.

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I'm here to talk to a CVID about a proposal that I've been working on.

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It's an indoor sports facility that I've been talking to north couch in about N plus.

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Some people here at Neil and Mike Calil, tech.

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What it is, I'll tell you exactly how it all started.

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I have three grandkids and they play sports here in town.

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And I'm born here and I play all my sports here.

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My grandson plays out of an animal pirates.

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So I said to my daughter one day, I said,

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How come Smith is going to an animal all the time? Like 40s a week?

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And I said, you and some other parents are driving on to.

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And she says, well, that's where the practices are done.

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So what do you mean the practices? Well, it's an indoor facility.

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We don't have an indoor facility here in the valley.

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So I went to take a look at this facility and it's funny. I film this guy.

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And what it is, it's in the news.

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And it's a family farm and he inherited it and it's a big barn.

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And he made it into an indoor sports facility.

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So I told her, ask, why can I come and talk to you?

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Because I said, you know, I have this idea.

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Well, not there. The guy's just a cool cool guy.

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And it's a big, big, a barn.

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And he's got a soccer baseball football.

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And he says, that's a big sport.

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And the news is pickleball. He said, the seniors are just filling it right up.

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So anyway, so to make a long story short, so I'm just thinking about all this stuff.

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And I have some friends, like tack has been a friend of mine for years.

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So I've talked to tack and Mike.

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And just some ideas of how we could do this.

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And the idea that we come up with is,

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get the public involved in, and do like a non-profit societies,

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but we had thought about it when we talked about it.

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And so I've talked, I've had some good meetings with North Couching.

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And they're on board. I mean, they're quite supportive of this.

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And I think there was some, I was supposed to show you some pictures of some of the stuff that I've been looking at.

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But I've been working on this for a couple of years, too.

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And it's, in my opinion, it's a great idea.

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I'll just give you an example.

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I was telling this lady here, I just went today.

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My nine-year-old grandson, there was a wind up baseball.

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A couple of weeks ago, they had, you know, the bouncy castles, everything all up at the park here.

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So at the end of it, it was all over.

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There was a whole day, and then we didn't have a car, and I said to my grandson,

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I said, so what's going on now?

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No, Miller.

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He says, what do you mean?

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I said, what are you going to do now? He says, well, I won't see my friends now until next year, Grandpa.

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And I thought to myself, oh, I said, oh, I said, oh, so now you're just going to go home and sit and play on your phone?

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Yeah.

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And then I clicked and we had to wait a minute.

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But anyways, so I don't know if she's okay, so I think,

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what am I looking at here?

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Do you want to know what?

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Okay, yeah, because I don't know it.

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And the reason I'm here more than anything else you guys is because no one person can do this.

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It'd be nice to get all of it, you know, some advice, some people that know what they're talking.

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You know, because I honestly, I'm so passionate about this.

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I'm retired.

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You know, I worked for Peter Belcher in this town for over 30 years.

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I know a lot of people, and I just think that we need this.

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And the other facility that we have in this area is in Victoria.

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So that's the two places that you know, we can go.

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And I mean, we've got a lot of sports people from Lake couch and Sean again.

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Ladies with me.

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There's a lot of kids and not just kids.

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I mean, even old guys like me can go out there and fool around once in a while, you know what I mean?

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We'll take a check out there, but yeah, that really.

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Well, I don't know, I see on Facebook.

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He seems to be playing a lot of golf.

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You know, yeah, I don't know.

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Is that that charity worked that you're talking about?

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Okay, I guess.

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Yeah, I don't know if there's really much more that I can, you know, really bring up accepted.

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I wanted to make the CVRD obviously aware of it.

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Again, as I say, probably the most important thing is that no one person can do this by themselves.

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But you get some, did any questions or something like that?

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Thank you, Mr. Deol.

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I think we can all follow along with the PowerPoint that you provided.

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And if we have any further questions, we can reach out to our staff.

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First of all, I want to thank you for your presentation and your interest in this.

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I personally am not a pickleball player, but I have seen how.

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Good that that is accepted within my age group.

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Any questions from directors or, okay, I have?

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Don't touch it.

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Director Staples.

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No, push it again.

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It's on.

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There you are.

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There you are.

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All right.

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Thank you so much for your presentation for coming here and also just for this idea.

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I have a sports family as well.

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And yeah, it was a lot dragging kids all over the place because of the limitations of what we have here.

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I have one question I have is, what is the size of the place that I'm going to know?

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All the one and I'm going to use born.

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I don't have the measurements, but I can tell you it's two football fields.

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But that is something that we would need here and dunk here.

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And it was it a barn that existed that was renovated as that.

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Yes, yes.

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And is it on ALR land?

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That's another question that I have.

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Do you know in the land?

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Oh, I don't know the one.

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Those are just questions I'm curious about.

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You like how they overcame some of these things and some of the potentials that, you know,

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or there's a lot of farmers who are shifting, you know, shifting at a farming, or farming differently,

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or I who knows how many empty spaces we have.

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I was a farmer in my previous life and I know the barn from the farm that I used to,

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is that a storage facility.

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So, you know, there's a lot of, yeah, potential.

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I guess so I'm really excited about this.

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Can I have a great idea when you, if you go and look at it, it's just...

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Yeah, yeah, I definitely will.

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But yeah, those are just some questions that I have because I'm just curious about,

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that it just expands the possibilities of what could be done.

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So, I will check it out.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for that.

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Thanks, Chair.

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I mean, when you came forward with this to me and mentioned it to me,

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and I mean, this to me is, it's great.

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It's exactly what we didn't college of value.

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It's something that we, you know, at this table, I'm pretty sure everybody here would embrace

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You know, something like this would...

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It gives the teams an advantage if they can have this facility because they can practice all year.

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You know, I coached college in football for many years, and I coached lacrosse,

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and I coached soft kid soccer, and all those sports.

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And to have an indoor facility would have been so amazing.

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You know, and it's absolutely bucketing down rain out there.

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Trying to, you know, run a practice in years.

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You're so can wet and freezing cold and all that.

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You know, I mean, it's just great to have a facility to go in.

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And also, you mentioned earlier about the pickleball.

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I mean, and this is the fastest growing sport in North America.

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And you know, have professional pickleball leagues.

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And, you know, it's growing exponentially every day.

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And we've seen some without a North college.

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And just regionally with some action from the pickleball crowd.

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You know, these are the kinds of things that need to come in a groundswell from the community.

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And I think, Jerry, that's what you're doing here.

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You're, you're bringing it to something forward that, like I said,

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everybody can get behind.

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It's just, to me, it just makes sense.

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And anything I can possibly do, or, you know, I'm here to help.

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So, you know, thank you for being this forward.

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And thank you for your presentation today and keep on it.

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Yeah, thanks.

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When you've been a big supporter and a big help, we talk quite a bit.

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And I thank you so much, Roy.

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And I'll also acknowledge, Director Acton has joined us online as well.

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Director Man has your next.

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Thanks, Jerry.

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Thanks, Jerry, for that presentation.

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I said, make a comment.

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I've never seen you nervous before in your life.

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I mean, it's not salesmen for belsave month after month, month after month.

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A year after a year.

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And you're going to be nervous to unsell the choir.

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Thanks.

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So instead of a car, he's going to sell us an indoor sports facility.

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Everybody wants it.

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We appreciate your presentation and taking your time to provide the information to us today.

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I'm hoping that we can look at a possibility of at least a future discussion.

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I have no motion on the floor, et cetera.

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We don't make a decision during delegations.

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But I'm sure that you have picked some interest within a few directors.

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And we'll see where this goes in the future.

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Thank you, kindly.

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Thank you, guys, for letting me present us.

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Appreciate it.

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Ms. Boyd.

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Thank you, chair.

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We're moving on to report 8.1, 2026 Cowach and Valley Regional District Climate Projections.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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All right.

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So hi.

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I'm Caitlin O'Connor, a senior environmental analyst in the Environmental Services Division.

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I'm here to present some of the updated climate projections for the Cowach and Valley.

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And my adopting these projections are important to support a safe and resilient communities in this time of change.

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Hi, I'm so sorry.

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So this work updates the CVR D's 2017 Climate Projections using the latest climate science.

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Since 2017 advances in climate science have led to improved modeling approaches and a broader range of climate indicators.

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And response the CVR D partnered with Peacock to develop updated regional climate projections using the latest generation of global climate models and improved downscaling methods.

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This updated information provides a clear picture of how the climate and our region is expected to change and will support decisions that reduce future risk and build resilience.

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Later in the presentation, I'll discuss what these projected changes can mean for the places and things we value most in the Cowach and region.

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So to give you a sense of how projections are developed, we start with a global climate model, which is a computer model that simulates Earth's climate using lots of data and coding.

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Climate models divide the Earth up into lots of smaller grid cells.

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Within each of those grid cells, scientists apply mathematical equations that represent Earth's physical process, such as behaviors and interactions of the atmosphere, ocean, land and ice.

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These models are tuned and tested against historical observations from weather stations to improve and validate their ability to simulate real climate.

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The results is a sophisticated model that, while it is not a perfect representation of the real world, it is a good replication of the climate system.

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So to understand climate change, the model needs information about how greenhouse gas emissions, the driver of climate change will change in the future.

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Mission scenarios, known as the shared socioeconomic pathways or SSPs, are different scenarios for how we might emit in the future as a global society.

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They range from low-emission futures where we transition to renewable energy sources immediately to a high-emission futures where we remain heavily reliant on fossil fuels.

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These scenarios are input into the climate models to produce projections of the future climate based on different emission levels.

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The model output projections for different climate variables like temperature or precipitation patterns.

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It's important to keep in mind that these projections are not forecasts, they are what if scenarios for what the future could look like.

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Once in admission scenarios chosen, the global climate model produces a low-resolution map of a grid cell.

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From here, peak-kick downscales the map into a local scale projections for our region.

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The maps throughout this presentation show that climate change impacts are not expected to be experienced uniformly across the couch and valley,

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because the region includes a wide range of elevations, coastlines, and landscapes.

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Some areas are projected to experience much larger changes than others.

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In many cases, the greatest changes are projected in the Eastern-developed area region, where much of the population, infrastructure and agricultural activity are located.

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The climate projections report consists of approximately 80 different climate indicators.

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These indicators are available in four time periods.

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The historical baseline from 1981 to 2010, and future projections for the 2030s, 2050s, and 2080s.

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The analysis also includes two future emissions scenarios.

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A moderate emission pathway and a high emission pathway. Looking at both scenarios helps us understand how climate conditions may evolve under different levels of global greenhouse gas emissions.

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The data is also summarized for three subregions within the couch and valley. The west coast watershed, the water supply watershed and the developed watershed, making it easier for local governments, first nations, organizations and community partners to understand what climate change can mean.

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For their specific area.

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So, other data results come in box plots and tables that illustrate the regional averages for a given climate variable.

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Uncertainty comes from any given variable, location and emissions scenario, as each climate model produces a different projection of future climate conditions.

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This results in range of possible outcomes. Since no single model can be considered the correct one, the median or middle value of the model results is often used as the best gas.

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The tenth and the 90th percentile range provides an indication of uncertainty across the model results. The larger the range, the more uncertainty in future projections.

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The valley focus on the median values, the full range of projected changes should also be considered and particularly for critical decision making.

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So, the climate projections for this region reinforce the findings of the 2017 assessment.

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We have expected to become hotter and drier while winters spring and fall become warmer and water. These changes are expected to bring more frequent and prolonged heat events.

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Warm or nights increase demand for cooling and greater pressure on water supplies during the summer months.

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At the same time, precipitation patterns are projected to shift significantly.

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More winter precipitation is expected to fall as rain rather than snow. Resulting is substantially less snowfall and a greater risk of heavy rainfall and flooding.

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Overall, the region can expect a longer growing season fewer frost and ice days and more extreme weather related impacts associated with both summer drought and intense rainfall events.

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So let's look more in depth into the temperature projection result. Each box plot shows the average daily temperature for each month of the year, meaning taking the average of the daytime high and with the night time low.

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Looking at August, we see at the yellow box which represents the past climate where the median is roughly 16 degrees Celsius, then by the 2050s to be around 19 degrees and more than 22 by the 2080s.

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This means the climate may many of us grew up with is no longer the climate we can expect in the future with hotter summers becoming the new normal.

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Although three degrees may seem like a small change, it has major consequences because it shows the entire temperature distribution upward making extreme heat events much more common and much more intense.

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So how hot do we expect it to get in the summer? This figure compares the historical summer heat conditions with projections for the 2050s and shows a substantial increase in extreme heat across the region.

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The largest changes are projected in the developed area where the highest population concentrations will face the greatest exposures to heat related health risk.

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The heat waves increasing to about 4 per year by the 2050s and about 6 per year by the 2080s.

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Heat waves are expected to last longer and become more intense with the hottest day of the year warming up approximately 3 degrees by the 2050s and 6 degrees by the 2080s.

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While annual precipitation is projected to increase slightly overall, the seasonal pattern becomes much more pronounced.

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With wetter fall, winter and spring seasons and summers that are about 15% drier.

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At the same time, snow falls expected to decline significantly by roughly 60% by the 2050s, which reduces the natural snowpack storage.

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By the 2050s, the region's heaviest rainfall events are projected to become significantly more intense with both one day and five day rainfall extremes increasing about 15%.

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Rain falling during the wet days is projected to increase approximately 30%.

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Meaning a larger share of the annual precipitation will come from intense storm events.

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So this figure is a new one for the updated report.

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It shows how the frequency of warm season droughts may change across the region.

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While projections suggest only modest changes overall, the developed area could experience drought conditions much more often.

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With events that historically occurred once every 10 years, potentially occurring every 4 to 6 years.

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Although there is uncertainty in these drought metrics, they align with higher confidence projections showing hotter summers and less summer rainfall.

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Indicating that drought and dry conditions are likely to become more common, particularly in the eastern part of the region.

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This next section highlights some of the key climate risk the couch in region could face in the coming decades and why planning ahead is important.

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Responding to these challenges will require using climate projections and decision making and continuing to build on the strong partnerships that already exist across the region.

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It will also be important to ensure that adaptation efforts are inclusive, support indigenous leadership and knowledge and consider the needs of most vulnerable to the climate impacts.

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Water Sheds are one of the region's most important natural asset providing water habitat and climate resilience.

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Climate change is affecting watershed health through drought, warming temperatures, wildfire and more extreme rainfall.

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The fish die off in the couch in river in 2023 highlights the real consequences these changes can have when environmental thresholds are exceeded.

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The couch in region relies on a mix of groundwater and surface water sources, but population growth and increasing demand are putting pressures on supplies that are already constrained in some areas.

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Climate change is expected to make these challenges worse through hot or dry or summers and increase drought water quality concerns in the potential for salt water intrusion.

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Building long-term water resilience will require continued investments in conservation, watershed stewardship, monitoring and sustainable water shed management.

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When we talk about climate impacts, it's important to remember that some members of our community are more vulnerable than others.

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Older adults, people living alone, those with chronic health conditions and people with insecure housing, can face greater risk during events like extreme heat and poor air quality.

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The 2021 heat dome showed how quickly extreme heat can become a serious public health emergency, investing in cooling centers, clean air strategies, emergency preparedness and a strong social network can help reduce these impacts and improve community resilience.

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Climate change is expected to place increasing pressures on the infrastructure system that support our communities including transportation networks, buildings and water services.

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More intense rainfall can overwhelm storm water systems causing flooding, sewer backups, power outages, while lower summer water levels may affect water and wastewater treatment and increase heat and increase heat will drive greater demand for cooling and homes and buildings.

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Together with wildfire and flooding risks that can disrupt transportation routes and isolate communities.

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These impacts highlight the need for resilient infrastructure design and long-term planning based on future climate conditions.

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Agriculture is a vital part of the couch and regions identity, economy and food security with more than 700 farms with.

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The strong tradition of food, cultivation and stewardship. Climate change presents both opportunities and challenges including longer growing season and warmer temperatures, but also increased risk from drought, water shortages, heat stress, pest flooding and impacts of culturally important food systems.

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Building resilience will require investments in water conservation, soil health, climate-adapted farming practices and ecosystem restoration to local food production and food security into our future.

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Last, couch and parks, trails, lakes and tourism attractions are some of the region's greatest assets, while warmer temperatures may extend the recreation season and increased visitation.

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We're also likely to see more disruptions from wildfire, snow, low water levels flooding and infrastructure damage.

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Recent examples such as the couch and river fishing closure and atmospheric river impacts show how climate change is already affecting recreational opportunities.

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Investing and resilient infrastructure and protecting natural ecosystems will help sustain these benefits into the future.

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This assessment shows that climate change is not a future issue.

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It's already affecting communities infrastructure, ecosystems and water resources across the region.

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By using the latest climate projections and planning and decision making, we can better prepare for future conditions, reduce risks, and make stronger long-term investments.

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Ultimately, adaptation is about protecting community well-being, supporting economic resilience and ensuring that the couch and valley region remains a healthy and place for our future generations.

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Hi, sub-guys.

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Before I go to questions, I'm going to give you a second.

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Hi, great. I can't talk that long without taking a drink.

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Great presentation. I appreciate that, Miss O'Connor. Very wholesome.

442
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:20,000
We will turn to our directors when you are ready. I have director Justice first.

443
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:30,000
Yeah, thank you. I'll reiterate. It was great presentation and a very interesting report as well.

444
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:38,000
I guess I understand that the report clarifies and adds some detail flushes out the 2017 projections.

445
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:55,000
But it also be interested in knowing what if anything is specifically changed from the 2017 climate projections up to the 26 ones, based in this new model and the emissions assumptions.

446
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Are there any that are significantly different than the 2017 and is there any examples where either policies or design standards or adaptive practices would will change because of these new projections?

447
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:24,000
To the chair to the director. Nothing is substantially different.

448
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:37,000
However, every small changes do make some different design impacts. So we haven't gone and looked into those directly.

449
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:56,000
It's a bit more of like as we keep going as the as these new hopefully these adopted projections are taken and we do more risk assessments or if we're wanting to do any new infrastructure builds or prioritizing what we would like to do.

450
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:02,000
These will just help make sure that we are implementing those measures correctly and more accurately.

451
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Thank you. Mr. Chair, could I have a second question?

452
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,000
Absolutely professor.

453
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:16,000
I'll take the pressure off you. This one is for staff in general. You don't need to answer this one necessarily.

454
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:28,000
So just to staff generally my understanding is that technical reports that present scientific or factual information are generally received for information as opposed to being endorsed.

455
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:36,000
For example, I wouldn't expect sort of water quality data to be endorsed or audit report or something like that.

456
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:49,000
So what distinguishes these climate projections from other technical reports that require the board to endorse as opposed to just receive information.

457
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,000
I'll turn to Mr. Moore.

458
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:57,000
If through the the charity director justice, thank you for the question.

459
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:04,000
The purpose of these projections is to have a common baseline that we can use for planning.

460
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:10,000
So we just want to, you know, any kind of projections, they're not 100% accurate.

461
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,000
There any model or we're telling you their models are going to be wrong.

462
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,000
What we want to do is ensure that we're all working from the same baseline.

463
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,000
For example, if emergency management was doing some disaster mitigation planning.

464
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:30,000
We just want them to be aware that okay, these are the projections that what we understand the baseline is going to be.

465
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,000
So we'll plan for those.

466
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,000
And then use services if we're looking at water availability and long-term planning.

467
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,000
We're using the same baseline information to support that.

468
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:49,000
So that that's why we're asking for the the endorsement that these be adopted as what we're going to use as an organization.

469
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:57,000
And they're consistent the same on some low models the same process as being used by other jurisdictions across the islands.

470
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,000
We've got that consistency as well.

471
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Thank you.

472
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Thank you for that. If you have another one, you can put your mic back on.

473
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,000
I'm going to go online to director Wilson.

474
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
Yeah, thank you Mr. Jack.

475
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,000
Can you hear me okay?

476
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,000
Yes, sounds good.

477
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Conner.

478
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,000
And there's the third what Jeff said there.

479
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:29,000
If I wrote it down correctly, any climate projections like going to be wrong.

480
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,000
So we just need to establish a baseline which we need to endorse.

481
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:40,000
Can you with the data that you've got and it's going to pull up the report here again.

482
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:47,000
The time period season is an end, historical reference period 1981 to 2010.

483
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:56,000
That's fairly recent and given that the historical data previous to that is probably very limited.

484
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,000
Has anyone used what data we have?

485
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:23,000
We have to try and model or project what we are actually seeing now. If that's, do you understand what I'm trying to get to? What are we used from way back to see? Okay, this is what we've projected to be in 2020. What are we actually seeing? How has it been validated?

486
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:36,000
So, to the chair, through the chair to the director, the, I'm still trying to figure out what you're asking and I believe.

487
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:50,000
Okay, let me give you an example, if I can't hear. Some of the modeling systems that we used in my career, the theoretical result, was then compared to an actual practical result.

488
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:59,000
So, that the actual program and its calculations were validated. How have these been validated?

489
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Yes, so how, how they've been validated is that they are consistently updated, is how I would do it the exact how they actually validated is partly looking back and seeing how it is.

490
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:23,000
When they are each iteration and why it's important to keep updating these results is because they keep looking at what they projected, what they've seen.

491
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:35,000
They also keep looking at what does all of the scenarios actually mean. So, what does a low-emission scenario actually impact it, what does a high-emission scenario impact the world.

492
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Because every year we are actually receiving more and more data and it is being able to see how all of these actual interactions or climate change highs and lows are impacting for a day-to-day.

493
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:55,000
And so that's kind of what how it also just keeps on proving its that iteration process.

494
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,000
Good, and yeah, a full lot of please Mr. Chair, if I could.

495
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,000
Sure.

496
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Yeah, and please don't get me wrong. There are things which are happening obviously. I don't deny that one little bit.

497
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,000
But for instance, one of the things that was referenced to us now was the 2017 projections.

498
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Has any comparison been made to the projections for 2017, which were average who's done previous 2017 to the actuality of 2017.

499
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:40,000
So there's the validation again. This is what we think will happen in 2017 and this is what actually happened in 2017. Has there been any comparison there.

500
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,000
Through the chair to the director.

501
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:51,000
The 2017 projections would also be looking at what 2050 and what 2080 are looking at.

502
01:02:51,000 --> 01:03:00,000
So it's not something that we can validate how the 2017 went because we're not validating on a very short-term scale,

503
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:06,000
or well, we're not comparing the short-term scale of what was happening in 2017.

504
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:12,000
Like these projections aren't saying what's happening in 2022.

505
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:19,000
It's saying this is what we're thinking is happening or potentially going to happen in 2050 and 2080.

506
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:27,000
And so these are the things that we need to consider when we are building some long-term investments,

507
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,000
or when we're looking at how we want to plan in the future.

508
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:38,000
Mr. Wilson, I'll let Mr. Moore answer as well.

509
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:46,000
Thanks to the chair to director Wilson and thanks Mr. Conner for the explanation.

510
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:51,000
Just to clarify these projections, we say they're for the 2050s and the 2080s.

511
01:03:51,000 --> 01:04:00,000
But we're actually looking at 30-year periods because you need to look at a long-term average to see the longer-term trends,

512
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:05,000
as opposed to the year to year and day to day variability that we're always getting.

513
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:13,000
So the way the modeling is set up is they look at the 30-year period.

514
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:22,000
So the 2050 is at 2040 to 2069 and then 2070 through to the end of the century.

515
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:29,000
The modeling also they run the models and they can look at what happened in the past.

516
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:42,000
So the past figures that are being given there have been generated through these models and those can be compared to the historical data.

517
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:51,000
But we're only looking back as far as the 2080s or sorry as the 1980s as the baseline, that 30-year period in part,

518
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:59,000
because there isn't really reliable climate data on all these variables going back far enough to drive the models a lot farther than that.

519
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:06,000
And that's generally the accepted practice the way within meteorology that the experts always look at these 30-year periods.

520
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:18,000
Rolling baseline, so right now we're looking at one 30-year period once we move past 20-30, then they'll have enough data to sort of shift the baseline over.

521
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,000
Okay.

522
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,000
All right, thank you very much.

523
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,000
Thank you for that.

524
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,000
I'm going to go to Director Abbott next.

525
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,000
Thank you, Chair.

526
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,000
And thank you, Mr. Conner.

527
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:35,000
That was a very thorough report and I appreciate you taking time to explain it much more fully for people that aren't scientists such as yourself.

528
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:45,000
There's obviously there's an appeal that we work regionally and that we work with our neighboring jurisdictions and first nations.

529
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:59,000
Is there a similar, do the report authors also look for partnership collaboration opportunities with our neighboring jurisdictions and and couch and tribes to see whether there are economies in these kind of reports staying current.

530
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:12,000
We work with our partners because it is a regional impact. In fact, you've kind of portrayed an arm again kind of scenario to the layperson.

531
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,000
So I don't know if that's if you can help me on that.

532
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,000
Yeah, through the chair to the director.

533
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:28,000
Hopefully if these are adopted we would be going to all of our regional partners and even community organizations to share these results.

534
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:37,000
With them as they also will want are probably interested in what's happening within the region because it's so down down scale to be really specific.

535
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:42,000
This is also a way for them to not have to find out these numbers as well.

536
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:47,000
So a way to save resources region wide for others and our partners.

537
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:53,000
And so yes, I would I would love to. I look hopefully look forward to doing that this fall.

538
01:06:54,000 --> 01:07:00,000
Absolutely everyone else is it's more of a commentary about the elephant in the room.

539
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:18,000
When will we address and it's a theme in today's reports when will we address forestry and 70% of the forest lands that are vastly impacting our water holding capacity and we can't survive on this island.

540
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:29,000
It's not an answer. Missal Connor needs to try to address, but I think as a as a community we need to advocate for a change in our forestry practices.

541
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,000
Thank you.

542
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,000
Appreciate that perspective. Thank you very much. I'm going to go online to director deck.

543
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,000
I was pressing the wrong microphone.

544
01:07:53,000 --> 01:08:02,000
Thank you so much. Missal Connor that was troubling to say the least.

545
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:13,000
And I guess what my I was startled really by what I saw in terms of the precipitation overall.

546
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:22,000
Like we've known for years and years that the snow fall, the snow pillows on Heather Mount for example have got almost nothing.

547
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:29,000
So the forest hasn't been able to slowly release that that precipitation.

548
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:42,000
But what really frightened me was that even though the weather will be wetter and wilder you said that the annual precipitation will only slightly increase.

549
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:58,000
So again, I was kind of I guess I don't know where this work, you know, falls hoping from that that precipitation because it was wilder would and weather.

550
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:08,000
They've always told us that it would have sort of made up for the snow fall like the snow fall so that just blew me away.

551
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:32,000
And so I must echo the previous directors comments about the forest because that that will be our really only hope to capture and store water into the future seeing that there will only be slight increases in precipitation.

552
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:44,000
So I guess yeah that's all I need to say forestry needs to be changed completely.

553
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,000
Thank you. Thank you.

554
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:53,000
I don't think there was a question in there so you don't need to reply if you don't want to but if you wish to please do.

555
01:09:53,000 --> 01:10:05,000
Yeah, so one thing I would just add because so precipitation is actually rain and snow together so precipitation doesn't just mean rain.

556
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:18,000
So a lot of the snow fall that is no longer going to be snow is actually coming down as rain and so there is a slightly increase of precipitation overall.

557
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:28,000
It's just to like look at is that now it's not going to be like stored in the mountains and then once it gets warm slowly comes down it'll be very immediate of rain and falling.

558
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:41,000
So there's it's more of how is this water going to be held how like intense it might come down and then also just how much it is then already there it becomes summer and now we're dry.

559
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:49,000
So it's a very like that type of more of a system but I do just want to make the clarification that precipitation is rain and snow.

560
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:57,000
Thank you so much. I actually did kind of know that but I need to be reminded thank you so much.

561
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,000
Yeah.

562
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,000
Thank you moving to Director Kelly.

563
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,000
Thanks, Chair. Thanks, Mr. Connor for the presentation.

564
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,000
It's well fleshed out and it was very interesting reading.

565
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:18,000
You know, you just led basically into what I'm going to make my comment about.

566
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:26,000
I don't really have a question but you know you just said that with more rain in the fall and winter they'll be less snow.

567
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:32,000
To me this speaks to what's in our agenda later on.

568
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:57,000
You know, the we're in like college and it's been I think it's been and not, you know, the works for over 20 years trying to get it raised up and I was doing to research online about the amount of water that would be stored by raising that we're up and it comes out to be 9.5 billion gallons of water.

569
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,000
And this is this is stuff.

570
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,000
Pardon?

571
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:11,000
I was whispering to another director but please carry on but just be mindful of the topic.

572
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,000
Yes.

573
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:21,000
So the thing is like this speaks to the fact that we need to raise we need to raise the we're it's something that you know to keep the college and river healthy.

574
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:28,000
We need to look at storing more water you know and saving it for the summer months.

575
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:34,000
I mean your report speaks to that perfectly in my opinion.

576
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,000
Thank you for stick handling around that appreciate it.

577
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,000
I don't know if you need to respond to that we're all quite aware of the situation there.

578
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Director Staples your next please.

579
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,000
Thank you don't touch the mic look at that.

580
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,000
All right.

581
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,000
So thank you for the report.

582
01:12:54,000 --> 01:13:00,000
I have a couple of things I guess one is a question and the other one is this an observation.

583
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:06,000
So a couple of observations one is that this is extraordinarily dire.

584
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,000
So there's that which we all can see.

585
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:15,000
I feel like we should be having a lot more of reaction than we are even looking at something like this.

586
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:22,000
And this is sort of that slow boil of climate change that you know we've been hearing about for decades now since I was a kid.

587
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,000
And which is decades and decades now.

588
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:32,000
That is now catching out to us and accelerating faster than was anticipated even ten years ago.

589
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:38,000
So that is a reality and people can roll their eyes or do whatever they like in response to that.

590
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:44,000
But that is the reality of the report that we're looking at and look to the interior right now.

591
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:50,000
I have friends and family who live there and the pictures of what it looks like right there right now are staggering.

592
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000
You know red skies it is.

593
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:57,000
It does feel a pop a like a pop a like.

594
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:05,000
And and I think we need to acknowledge that because this is something that's impacting people we had a firearm out probability other day.

595
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,000
I don't even believe that it's oh yet this is going to continue to impact us and we don't even know.

596
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:19,000
You know what that will do once the that what the fires will do is they continue to burn and and that starts to also change the climate.

597
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:26,000
So you know on top of logging and other industry impacts across the province and and the country and.

598
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:31,000
And globally so these are very very real things.

599
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:38,000
I appreciate that we have this report but what I'm a question that I have is what is our.

600
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:47,000
What is our process for action and not to you know like as it as a community I realize that there are some things that we can do as a region.

601
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:55,000
I look to one of the things that I follow is a good news channel so that I can actually feel inspired and not feel overwhelmed by some of these things.

602
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:00,000
And there are a lot of amazing things happening in the world that are happening in communities and in region.

603
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:25,000
In cities, reforce Asian plans for one. Like, there's so many, so many things that can happen to lower the temperature that do help and that do help with rebuilding, you know, river banks. There are a lot of things that we can do, and I realize it's a lot. But in other places, communities have come together in order to address that. I can't remember the name of the nickel community that has the giant nickel in it.

604
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:53,000
So, when I was at SCM, I was talking to some people from the sidebarry, and I remember the story of the sidebarry, and I went back and looked at the documentary, it was barren. It was tried to get was a massive ecosystem failure, and they brought it back and they did it as a community. Everyone from, you know, the youngest kids to every service group, there are ways that we can do this. And that's the plan that I would hope to see come forward in the next year.

605
01:15:53,000 --> 01:16:06,000
We can plan for what we know, but can we plan for what we can do. And because there are so many things that we can do and involving the community, just like to build an indoor store, it's a sports field.

606
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:12,000
Let's involve an engagement community in actually creating a healthy ecosystem for all of us to live in.

607
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:22,000
And the other piece of this that I'd like to see parallel to this, and I know that Dr. Shannon Waters presented to us a number of years ago, I think it was last term.

608
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:31,000
But on the social impacts, you've touched on it here, but the social impacts of climate change have been even better documented.

609
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:38,000
And they are also dire, in terms of domestic violence, in terms of mental health.

610
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:48,000
And so it would be good to see parallel to that from our chief medical health officer as well on the impacts of the hotter days and the changing climate.

611
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,000
Thank you.

612
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,000
Thank you.

613
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:56,000
So you can reiterate your question. I think it got lost in the.

614
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,000
Yeah, sorry.

615
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:05,000
I just saw the state of confusion, so I want to make sure you get your question out. We got your preamble.

616
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,000
Let's go right to the question.

617
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,000
Wait for the red.

618
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:25,000
The question is, is that something that the regional district is going to do in terms of planning on not just presenting and not just the, you know, not just the weird and the things that we can do, but what can we do is a community and leading that.

619
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,000
That's something that's being considered and also.

620
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Bringing and engaging the chief medical health officer to ensure that we're updated on the social impacts that are happening.

621
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,000
Thank you.

622
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,000
Thank you.

623
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:43,000
So I'm going to answer this, but also let just hopefully add to it.

624
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:49,000
So with the 2017 projections, there did come out a climate implementation plan.

625
01:17:49,000 --> 01:18:01,000
So we do have plans that do lay out the like watershed health and well being and all sorts of this basically the impacts that I had just gone through, didn't what we can do.

626
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,000
So, and then there's the climate adaptation and strategy as well.

627
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,000
That is part of the CVRDs and so.

628
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:17,000
If it would be great to update those, but that would be direction coming from the board to me to be able to do.

629
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:24,000
Mr. Moore, you wish to add.

630
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,000
Thanks.

631
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:30,000
Through the chair to the director, I think, Miss O'Connor, some summarized it pretty well.

632
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:39,000
The previous round of projections sort of started our climate out or climate work as a region.

633
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:48,000
We looked at a bunch of natural hazard risk assessments to understand what the risks were and then developed a climate adaptation strategy and that.

634
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:57,000
Was a regional partnership working very closely with municipalities with island health and a lot of community groups.

635
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:06,000
To come up with a strategy that really had actions from a whole bunch of different players realize it wasn't just things that CVRDs doing.

636
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:17,000
And as Caitlin indicated, I think it's a good time to be looking at our progress on that strategy and looking at should that be updated.

637
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,000
Are there new actions given this new information?

638
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,000
Things that have changed in the years since that strategy was developed.

639
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:30,000
So that will be part of our work plan that we'll be putting forward is to look at that.

640
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:35,000
Thank you. Just turn your mic off if you would.

641
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:43,000
Thank you. Well, no, I'm just I'm doing some housekeeping and while I'm doing that, if those in the audience can mute their phones.

642
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,000
I would appreciate that.

643
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:51,000
From here on, it'll be a $50 fine. Should I hear anymore?

644
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,000
Director Morrison.

645
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,000
Thank you, Chair. Thanks for the report.

646
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,000
This has been long anticipated.

647
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:09,000
I remember when the 2017 report came out, how much there was for directors to learn.

648
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:14,000
Even just a simple concept of what is climate and what is weather.

649
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,000
A lot of people have difficulty grasping that.

650
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:23,000
I do want to ask about salt water intrusion, but I'm really.

651
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,000
I have concerns about the timing of this.

652
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:35,000
The endorse versus receive as far as information goes.

653
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,000
And I will have a follow up.

654
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:45,000
But I'm wanting to know how this is going to be used.

655
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,000
The previous speaker just went like, what are we going to do?

656
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:57,000
And think about the fact that our neighbors to the south of just basically abandoned alternative energy.

657
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:02,000
Programs and our burden as much fossil fuels as they possibly can.

658
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,000
And that's probably going to happen for a couple of three more years.

659
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:09,000
So I want us to do what we can.

660
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:16,000
But firstly, I want to understand the process of how this report,

661
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:21,000
if it's received as information or endorsed as recommended.

662
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:29,000
How that is going to wield its way into corporate strategic planning for the next board.

663
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:39,000
If I've just heard Mr. Moore say that we want our emergency management folks to be aware of the information contained in here.

664
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:56,000
So being aware of what's in the report is a heck of a lot different than our professional staff sharing their advice and recommendations in reports based on this.

665
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,000
And I assume that would happen if it was endorsed.

666
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:11,000
So and and are we maybe over our skis a little bit here endorsing this report three months before a new board there?

667
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:22,000
So how is this going to be used in the next few years ahead within the organization?

668
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:28,000
And it's it's role it'll play for us around most table.

669
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,000
I'll turn to Mr. Moore.

670
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:36,000
Thank you through the chair to direct a Morrison.

671
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:44,000
To put it in context, what we're receiving with these climate projections is a vast amount of data.

672
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Looking at all these different permutations and combinations.

673
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:55,000
And as you pointed out, as Mr. Conner stated, there's a lot of uncertainty associated with these.

674
01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:10,000
Part of that is a scientific uncertainty around the models and we address that by using a whole ensemble of models and looking for the common themes and the other piece is around the different shared socioeconomic pathways.

675
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:20,000
So it's very challenging to be able to, you know, we don't have a crystal ball to see what the future is going to be like and things can change from year to year.

676
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:32,000
We heard in the public input that there's some in promising indications that we might be veering away from the the 8.5 scenario.

677
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:38,000
These package of projections that we're asking to be endorsed includes all those possibilities.

678
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:46,000
So then what happens is when there's long term planning that needs to understand what the future climate is we looked at.

679
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:54,000
What's the nature of what we're trying to work with and how important it is it, so which assumption should we use.

680
01:23:54,000 --> 01:24:00,000
So if we're looking at critical infrastructure, you know, waste water treatment plants.

681
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:10,000
We want to be fairly cautious and conservative with planning for a fairly serious worst case scenario.

682
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:20,000
There might be other instances where the consequences aren't as severe, so it would make sense to use a more optimistic scenario or maybe use the mid range.

683
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:26,000
Those best guesses that Miss O'Connor had up there rather than using the the more extreme scenarios.

684
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:36,000
We did use the 2017 projections for our hazard assessments, so when we did the updated flood mapping around the region.

685
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:44,000
We use these projections to have an understanding about what precipitation would be looking like in the future so that we could use that as the baseline.

686
01:24:44,000 --> 01:25:04,000
That's what we're envisioning, so it's mainly the data and the availability of the data and referring to this is the accepted common data source for the region going forward rather than any specific policy implications stemming from the data.

687
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:28,000
Yeah, and thank you for that and it brings forward a real life and practical conundrum for us and that we're accepting this package of data as accurate as it is on behalf of the next folks that will be sitting around this board and we've all seen how the reports come forward.

688
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:43,000
Basically, saying on the basis of the accepted data that you have before that the board has endorsed, these are the data data implications and recommendations that come forward.

689
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:55,000
I think that that's looking at a former director in the room who warn me about being so far out in front of our own troops that they must take you for the enemy.

690
01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:24,000
So, practically speaking when we talk about trees and everybody looks at let's talk about forestry, absolutely there's issue around right and fall retention and the likes on the vast forest lands around here, but when I look in communities and see people cutting down mature trees in residential neighborhoods because they don't like the leaf litter that falls in fall.

691
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:39,000
We've got a serious issue that people are communities aren't, I would say, engaged to the same extent that we are with reports like this.

692
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:46,000
I'm also going to say that I want to look at as a pocket lift as this may seem.

693
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:56,000
I think there's some good news in this as well in that I think we will have more people come to this community I think that there's a bright future for the couch and valley.

694
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:05,000
I think we're already seeing environmental tourism and migration to this area so we've got the opportunity to plan for that.

695
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:24,000
There's some good news in this as well, but again I'm going to warn that we should perhaps be cautious about what we endorse or receive now because it's going to be different people sit around this table in very few months.

696
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:34,000
So I guess there wasn't a question in there. Oh yeah, let me ask, do we have fears about saltwater intrusion in the communities now?

697
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,000
I'm going to let Jeff answer that question.

698
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:53,000
Thanks through the chair to direct a margin. That's usually associated with sea level rise which isn't included specifically in this report and that's because of the nature of the climate models and the data that we have.

699
01:27:53,000 --> 01:28:00,000
These projections don't do a very good job of predicting the future sea level rise.

700
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:13,000
In terms of saltwater intrusion, we are seeing indications that that could be a threat in some areas particularly if we look at fetus and some of the other golf islands.

701
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:23,000
And there's been quite a bit of work that has been done on Gabriel looking at a better understanding of the aquifers there.

702
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:28,000
So we're looking at that kind of work to understand those risks as well.

703
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:43,000
And just so you know, I see you people online with your hands up again, but as second time speakers, I'm going to go to my first time list first, Director Nicholson.

704
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:58,000
This has been an interesting conversation. I'd like to address the sort of two trees of thought happening here, and I'd like to talk first about this issue of this being something that we have to endorse.

705
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:05,000
I think that's absolutely not what we should be doing.

706
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:16,000
This is a very technical report, a lot of science is based on modeling and there it is, it's your best, it's your best technical information at the time.

707
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:24,000
So I don't, you know, we do not have the capacity to understand whether this is something we should endorse or not endorse because we based on data.

708
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:31,000
So it really is an operational issue and I think we should accept it for information.

709
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:37,000
I think this kind of information, we should be aware that this is the kind of thing that the CVRD does every so many years.

710
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:44,000
And I guess my question is how often do we do this updating?

711
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,000
Through the chair to the director.

712
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,000
The 2017 was the first one and so it's been about nine years.

713
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:58,000
And so we do we sort of do it every ten years or sort of and then maybe more often if we're getting worried.

714
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,000
Mr. Moore.

715
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,000
Through the chair to Director Nicholson, one of the big reasons was because we're onto the next generation of global climate models now.

716
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:21,000
So the IPCC does an update to their climate models every five to ten years. It's not always a fixed schedule.

717
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:35,000
So then once there's new information available, and then the PKK specific climate impacts consortium has the opportunity to do their downscaling and take those really, really coarse data and make it specific.

718
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:41,000
So a lot of it has to do with when there's new data that are available.

719
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:52,000
And so is it is it true that we are things are coming out as being worse than we anticipated as we move forward?

720
01:30:52,000 --> 01:31:00,000
Through the chair to Director Nicholson, the general trends in the data are pretty similar.

721
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:12,000
It's the same message as we had from the previous projections that we're going to see warmer and wetterwinter's hotter drier summers, more intense rainfall events.

722
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:23,000
That hasn't changed. It's hard to say if the projections have really changed all that much, especially as you move into the future because of the range of uncertainty associated with the models.

723
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:34,000
So they're basically it might look like some indicators are a little higher, but it's probably not all that different from the previous ones.

724
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:52,000
The other thing that's come with these these new projections is there's been a number of new indicators developed. So this this report looks more specifically at snowpack, which the previous one didn't and they've got a number of additional measures for drought and for heat waves and just different ways of looking at the data that are presented here.

725
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,000
Can I ask another few questions?

726
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:02,000
A few. Not a few. I'll give you one more and then you can put yourself back on that list.

727
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:19,000
So I think that when we had that extreme heat wave where the system stalled that whole idea of how the weather systems are changing and that kind of stalling thing.

728
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:25,000
There's increased do we have better understanding now of how that's being affected by climate change?

729
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:33,000
And is that being built into these models? Is that with a new new model stuff is all about?

730
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:39,000
Through the chair to director Nepkelson.

731
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:49,000
The the I'm not as familiar with the specific details of what the models are measuring.

732
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:57,000
Part of it is a better understanding of new ways of of looking at the data.

733
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:06,000
Climate projections are never going to be able to project things like those heat domes those you know highly specific one time events are.

734
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:12,000
Next to impossible to predict just because of the uncertainty of climate system so what we're really.

735
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:21,000
All we're able to say is you know the average is looking at at the long term are going to be you know we're going to see generally higher temperatures.

736
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:27,000
But we can't say in any one year that that summer is going to be hotter than others.

737
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:33,000
But what we can say is that the extremes are getting extreme and they're happening.

738
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,000
Where we didn't ever expect to have a heat dome like that.

739
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:44,000
So I think we've got a series problem that we need to start really understanding how the board needs to step up and address that.

740
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:49,000
And yes it's important that the new board hears this kind of information right away.

741
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:54,000
But it's really important that this document get out in the community and be used right away.

742
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,000
So I do not think we should hold it up by questioning whether we should endorse it or not.

743
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:02,000
Of course it should be out there communities already paid for it.

744
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:08,000
Let's let's use the best available science and make sure everyone knows it's there.

745
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:19,000
So I really I feel like this is that question of endorsing or not is is something that we should think about because it's like.

746
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:28,000
I just would not ever want the board to be holding up or sitting on good technical information the community has paid for right.

747
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,000
So that's my point.

748
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:35,000
Thank you and if you have more I'll come back but don't put it on yet.

749
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,000
I'm going to go to the first time speaker director.

750
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:44,000
Thank you chair and thank you as others for the report.

751
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:48,000
I think Bob Dylan had it right when he said times are changing.

752
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:55,000
And I can speak to it specifically from neighboring farmer who when I moved.

753
01:34:55,000 --> 01:35:01,000
She said oh when do you I said when do you plant your gardens he says why plant it when the snow's on the hill comes off the hill.

754
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:06,000
When you see snow snow you can plant your garden and typically that was a third week of May.

755
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,000
Well this year there's snow snow on the hill at all.

756
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:16,000
And so these things that generally shouldn't be where in place she always knew and the farmer before knew that too.

757
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:19,000
Those markers aren't there for the farmers anymore.

758
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:36,000
And so you know to say that things are changing is understatement for farming because even the impact of you know wetter winters you know we struggle in my area with getting the fields dry.

759
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:41,000
So that we can plant and having wetter winters mean that those little seals are flooded.

760
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:53,000
And yet you know dry or summers mean that we can't have we can't grow if we don't have enough water over the summer to feed our animals or grow our crops.

761
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:59,000
So you know farming is going to really struggle in the future.

762
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:17,000
So but with all that I'm interested in the concept of you know you go to basically two thirty year periods and you stop or sort of a rolling you move on to the next one.

763
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:24,000
And I think the first nations about seven generations and I think about my grandkids.

764
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,000
So I think that's going to be able 60 years old when this next.

765
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,000
When they when we're two, when we're the second second.

766
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:36,000
Thirty year period out why don't we look beyond that.

767
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:41,000
Why don't we provide information that I have a second question after.

768
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:50,000
Through the chair to the director we just given the already the amount of uncertainty that does happen between twenty fifty and twenty eighty going beyond.

769
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,000
It just becomes more and more uncertain.

770
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,000
And so trying to play in for something like that is really hard.

771
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:01,000
You can see the progression or maybe how the lines are going if you wanted to.

772
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:10,000
But also there's major things that could happen in a hundred years of are just global environment that can have major impacts as well.

773
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,000
And if you put sorry now we'll put you on the spot on that one.

774
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:16,000
I was just going to ask if you if you were putting your.

775
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,000
Crystal ball front of you what would you predict but that's that's okay.

776
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:29,000
I think the second thing is trying to put this into I think you tried and report to put it into context of.

777
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:34,000
The couch and valley versus other parts of the island.

778
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:39,000
And so you know how and because I'm trying to understand sort of the.

779
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:49,000
The bank where island impact and so do you see things as being very similarly to what we're projecting across the island.

780
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:59,000
And then compare the island to what is projected across the province and just trying to get us what's our relative positioning and what's going to be happening.

781
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,000
Is that in terms of I think letter.

782
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:07,000
Dryer hotter.

783
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,000
Through the chair to the director.

784
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:20,000
I would say I've been really really focused on just our tiny area and just given the differences between the west coast and the east coast and all of the the small variables.

785
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,000
That make it big impact like just how the.

786
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:29,000
Developed Eastern side of the region is going to get substantially hotter than what we would expect on the west side.

787
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:34,000
And that's kind of the point of the down scaling so but in a general.

788
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:38,000
Over archaic like generally Canada is.

789
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:47,000
Increasing in temperature and the impact given the relatively to like ocean or mountains in their impacts of snow and river like it.

790
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:55,000
They're the same kind of ideas usually the similar but the impacts of it can change wildly based on where you are.

791
01:38:55,000 --> 01:39:02,000
And I guess it might comment would just following up is the concept of this data needs to be out there.

792
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:08,000
People need to understand the programs and farming programs about for water storage.

793
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,000
That this needs to be happening sooner than later but.

794
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,000
Thank you for that.

795
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:18,000
I'm going to stay with my first time speakers before going to the second time list.

796
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,000
Dr. Manhouse.

797
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,000
Thank you Mr. Chen. Thank you.

798
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,000
And thank you Mr. Corner for that report.

799
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,000
I have two questions in a comment Mr. Chair.

800
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,000
Two quick comments questions.

801
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,000
Absolutely.

802
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:34,000
I understand these projections were done by the United Nations.

803
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,000
And that.

804
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:43,000
I don't know considered in in correct by the IPCC's is that correct.

805
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:53,000
The projections were done by P.K. Pacific Climate Institute of Canada.

806
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,000
Sorry, P.K.

807
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:04,000
And the social there are and I'm trying to remember the.

808
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:10,000
I'm not sorry. I'm struggling on what exactly they you and yes, just go.

809
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,000
I'm sorry.

810
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,000
Through the chair to Director Manhouse.

811
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,000
The.

812
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,000
Yeah, it's the IPCC.

813
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,000
Which which comes up with the global climate models that drive this.

814
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,000
So it's the.

815
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Coupled into.

816
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,000
Integrated model comparison.

817
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:36,000
There's the ensemble of all the global climate models that we're looking at.

818
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:43,000
I'm not sure if you're referring to the shared social economic pathways that.

819
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,000
The assumption for the for a number of decades.

820
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:52,000
We've been on a pretty clear trajectory following the high emissions scenario.

821
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:59,000
There are some early indications that suggest we might be moving away from that.

822
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:09,000
That scenario, but it the projections do include five different scenarios.

823
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:14,000
At the global level and what the Pacific climate impacts.

824
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,000
Consortium did.

825
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:28,000
And they do for for much of Canada is take those projections and bring in the the more localized climate data to to down scale it and make it specific to our area for this particular report.

826
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:38,000
They've focused on as they have in a lot of places on the the two scenarios that are seen as being the most realistic.

827
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,000
So they that's the the SSP.

828
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:50,000
Five eight five, which is the results that are presented in the tables in the report along with the more moderate emissions scenario.

829
01:41:51,000 --> 01:42:01,000
Which isn't we don't go into detail with that in the report, but we have all the data for that that model so whichever one is.

830
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,000
You know, a decisions on which model to use.

831
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:14,000
Can be made depending on on the use of the particular use and the implications of it.

832
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:22,000
Follow up almost to this report cost.

833
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:29,000
Through the through the chair to direct my house it was about forty four thousand dollars.

834
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:33,000
Just for this specific report about the twenty seven.

835
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:42,000
This update was was forty four thousand dollars not funding came through the LG cap.

836
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:54,000
And in my comment is I just can't endorse baseline that cannot be verified he is so many different models and stuff and so what what are we actually going up to the community for we're endorsing this baseline.

837
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:59,000
Which baseline are we actually endorsing I just can't for the endorsement of this report.

838
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,000
Thank you.

839
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:08,000
Mr. Friend or director for the first time speaker welcome.

840
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:12,000
Thanks sure. I thought it be the contrarian around the table, but maybe not.

841
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:23,000
I did a whole bunch of research on on this report when I read it specifically the six modeling the CMI peat.

842
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:35,000
A couple of model inter comparison project phase six that everything seems to be based on and there seems to be quite a bit of bias in these these models because they're always looking at the worst case scenario.

843
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:41,000
That's what it seems like so you've got cloud feedback that's not taken into account as much.

844
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:49,000
Regional extreme event efficiencies so I mean we're looking at these huge huge models that the IPCC has endorsed.

845
01:43:49,000 --> 01:44:00,000
You know this report is dire as director staple said because it's intended to be dire it's looking at the absolute worst case scenario and I refuse to live in fear.

846
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:06,000
I absolutely refuse to live in fear now at the same time. I have no problem planning for mitigation efforts.

847
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:12,000
Obviously we're trying to reduce any sort of flooding impacts or anything like that.

848
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:16,000
We have zero snow cap this year. Well we had zero snow cap in 2015 as well.

849
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:20,000
And we've very little snow cap in 2001 all the way in 2007.

850
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:26,000
So there's these inputs that maybe aren't being taken into account that are that are regionally based.

851
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:32,000
Right and we're looking at this report that might affect every single policy and by-law going forward.

852
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:36,000
So I do agree with the comment you know why is this in front of us now.

853
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:41,000
Is it good information sure but we have to look at the inputs and how it's regionally driven.

854
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,000
So I have a real problem with that I have no interest in endorsing it.

855
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:48,000
I have interest in accepting it but I do really have a lot of quiet.

856
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:52,000
I got a full page of comments that I'm not going to go through the mulch here.

857
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:58,000
But it just have a huge problem with accepting this as almost another Bible that we have to follow.

858
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,000
So I zero interest.

859
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,000
I have no problem, you know, staff taking it and looking at, as Mr. Moore said, being very cautious and conservative when it comes to our infrastructure.

860
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:18,000
Absolutely. I mean, that should be direction anyway, but, you know, if we need to give that extra direction because of this report, great. I have no problem with that.

861
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:26,000
You know, we need to make sure that our systems are solid regarding, you know, regarding regardless of what potential emergency might come up in the future.

862
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:37,000
So, I had a question, but Director Mann has took it, but those are kind of my comments. I'm, I refuse to live in fear, but I have no problem planning for a potential in the future.

863
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:45,000
But it's what is that potential? You know, I mean, we spent $200 billion in carbon taxes, federally plus how much?

864
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:54,000
Perentially and locally, and has a climate change? No, it's kind of worse. So, what are we done? Like, what's the point? Let's just, it's natural. You know, climate change is natural.

865
01:45:54,000 --> 01:46:02,000
You know, 99.96% of climate change is natural. The other point of zero, 4% is potentially human-caused. Well, we can't change it.

866
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:11,000
Like, let's so let's figure out ways to protect our people and protect our resources and our infrastructure. So, that's my soul box for today.

867
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:17,000
Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Going to go back online, Director Wilson, second time.

868
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:57,000
I'm, I'm certainly, whether the right data set has been used, whether the data set 8.5 or whatever it was, RCP 8.5 is no longer valid, whether it's been removed, all that stuff there.

869
01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:06,000
And I'm not even going to go down there for the road of the timing of the late couch and where which is still being thought about.

870
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:17,000
And as Director, sorry, Bruce said, I refuse also to live in fear. Now, one of the things that came up just now is the mention of sea level rise.

871
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:24,000
This to me is probably one of the other major factors, but it's not considering not being considered in the models.

872
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:37,000
First question, are there any models which incorporate that into this, or can we see any models which says, by 2026, we would be a watch in sea water.

873
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:43,000
Are there any projections, has anybody modeled that? And if they're out, I'd like to see them come forward.

874
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:51,000
And can we answer that one first? Mr. Wilson, Jeff, would you like that? Mr. Moore, sorry.

875
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:55,000
Yeah, through the chair to Director Wilson.

876
01:47:55,000 --> 01:48:12,000
Yes, there are models that have looked at sea level rise. Again, there's a lot of uncertainty associated with them in terms of the rate of melting of some of the Antarctic glaciers and the Arctic glaciers.

877
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:20,000
And we hear stories of Antarctic ice shelves breaking off, and stuff in this can have a sudden dramatic effect on it.

878
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:28,000
We look to the the provincial guidance, which has been to plan for a meter of sea level rise.

879
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:32,000
The question is when's that going to happen?

880
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:38,000
There are suggestions planned for that by the end of the century planned for by 2070.

881
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:47,000
So there are a lot of uncertainties. We're still waiting for for updates to the provincial guidance on what to plan for.

882
01:48:47,000 --> 01:49:01,000
And we have, when we did our risk assessments for the region, we did look at the implications of several different scenarios of sea level rise up to two and a half meters of sea level rise.

883
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:07,000
Not putting a time period on that, but just is this a scenario that we would have to plan for.

884
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:21,000
What would be impacted to the region in terms of infrastructure that's located along coastlines and wells and salt water intrusion and things like that.

885
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:24,000
And here's my question, Mr. Chair.

886
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:30,000
There was mentioned about perhaps us or whoever being non-scientists.

887
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:36,000
Yeah, that's probably true, but we've got a fair amount of real world experience.

888
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,000
And we're pretty good at what we do otherwise we wouldn't be here.

889
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:43,000
So I cannot endorse this report.

890
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:49,000
I will take it as being presented for information and that's how it should be treated.

891
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,000
But endorsement.

892
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,000
No, sorry.

893
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:59,000
Thank you. I'm going to go back to Director Justice.

894
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,000
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

895
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:06,000
Several of us now have raised this question of whether it's technical report like this.

896
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:10,000
This particular technical report, I guess, rather.

897
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:14,000
It should be received for information rather than endorsed.

898
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:20,000
A number of people have made some fairly strong statements about not being willing to endorse it.

899
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:26,000
Personally, I've been convinced by staff's response that endorsement is appropriate.

900
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:31,000
And so I would support the recommended motion if it was on the floor.

901
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:38,000
But first I'd like to know, what would be the practical implications of not endorsing the report,

902
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:45,000
as opposed to simply receiving it and directing staff to, I'm not even sure this would need direction,

903
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:50,000
but directing staff to use the most current climate science in planning.

904
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:56,000
I certainly agree with the Director Nicholson that this report should be out there being used.

905
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:00,000
And would one or the other and be endorsement or receiving for information,

906
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:09,000
have any practical implications for it being out there being used?

907
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:16,000
Through the chair to Director Justice, not endorsing that certainly wouldn't prevent the data being used.

908
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,000
We would hope that it would be used as the baseline.

909
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:25,000
The 2017 projections were endorsed as the baseline for us to use.

910
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:32,000
What we're trying to avoid is a situation where we make plans based on one set of numbers,

911
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:40,000
and then some other entity starts making plans based on different numbers.

912
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:54,000
We just want to come to a common understanding of what the science is saying is the best available predictions

913
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:58,000
for what the future conditions are going to be like.

914
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:04,000
And that gives us the common understanding to use that for planning.

915
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:12,000
So if it's not endorsed, we would still intend to make the data available.

916
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:19,000
One of the use cases is if we are hiring consultants to do some work on any kind of project,

917
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:26,000
if it's an infrastructure project and they come to us and want an understanding of how much rainfall

918
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:34,000
should we plan for in the future that this is accepted as how we're going to come up with those numbers.

919
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:42,000
We're not going to go online and pull data in from other sources, which may be just as valid.

920
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,000
But then we've got one group using one set of numbers.

921
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:51,000
Someone else is using a different set of numbers and we're just trying to avoid that kind of situation.

922
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,000
Thank you.

923
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:57,000
I'd like to make the recommended motion that we endorse the report.

924
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:01,000
Okay, we can get it on the floor, but we'll continue with our speakers list.

925
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:02,000
It was moved.

926
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,000
Is there a second here?

927
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:07,000
So it's moved and seconded the recommendation I will read it out.

928
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:20,000
That would be recommended to the board that the 2026 climate projections for the CBRDB endorsed and used as the baseline for long term climate adaptation planning

929
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,000
and support for long term regional resilience.

930
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:27,000
I do have some first time speakers who have just come on.

931
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,000
I'll go online to direct your act.

932
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,000
Thank you chair.

933
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:42,000
I have no problem with endorsing or receiving as information.

934
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:45,000
I guess.

935
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:51,000
And the key word here is adaptation to the resolution.

936
01:53:51,000 --> 01:54:00,000
And I like the direction that director staples first initially, you know, what can we do.

937
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:05,000
We're not here to mitigate or you know, to decrease.

938
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:12,000
We're not talking about any of those things and we're not actually debating whether climate is changing or not.

939
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:19,000
Those are definitely we're seeing extremes and that's what we're talking about.

940
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:24,000
How do we live amongst those extremes and I guess I also.

941
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:34,000
I don't know if this is being portrayed, but what made me kind of want to jump in here is just to be weary of.

942
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:41,000
We're making forestry the enemy.

943
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:49,000
If we look at our region, it's so heavily dominated by forestry and and yes, the practices are.

944
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:52,000
Often or sometimes.

945
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:57,000
Shocking when we see it, but all of this land would wouldn't be.

946
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:03,000
I call it preserved or or farmed if it wasn't forestry land like what would our area look like if it didn't exist.

947
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:08,000
It would probably be developed.

948
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:14,000
There's very little if we looked at the lower mainland, how much of that is preserved.

949
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:21,000
And what would our areas look like so.

950
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:29,000
I I question that we we have forestry in in Shonian lake that gives us this get that gives us our way of life here.

951
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:34,000
We are surrounded by trees and most of it is forestry land.

952
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:40,000
We have the forestry companies such as mosaic who give money to our local organizations.

953
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:44,000
They they help the basis society pay their rent.

954
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,000
They they help they've helped.

955
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:53,000
Build our our pavilion in in the past community projects.

956
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:58,000
So I just be weary of that as said so.

957
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:04,000
Anyway, that's all I have to to say just a comment and thank you for the report and great discussion.

958
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:05,000
Thank you.

959
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:11,000
Thank you and and just to be fair ladies and gentlemen, we all have our points of view.

960
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,000
Whether it's on climate.

961
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:19,000
Whether it's on forestry or whether it's on economics and social drivers.

962
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:26,000
So if we can just please respect everyone's point of view as we move forward, we don't have to agree.

963
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,000
But we should get along.

964
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:32,000
Don't make me hit the gavel.

965
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:35,000
Mister chair might not getting along.

966
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:36,000
No, no, it's not you.

967
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:40,000
I'm getting some indicators in my left ear from the director upstairs.

968
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:41,000
No.

969
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:44,000
Seriously though, I do have a first time speaker.

970
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,000
Are you finished?

971
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:49,000
I don't mean to cut you off.

972
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:53,000
Yes, thank you for allowing me to talk from home.

973
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,000
Thank you very much.

974
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:55,000
Director Beast.

975
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,000
Thank you.

976
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,000
We've had numerous items.

977
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:09,000
Very important items come before us and we've quite often are caution not to light our hair on fire and get all excited about them.

978
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:13,000
And then this one comes up and it's like, no light your hair on fire.

979
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:18,000
So a little bit concerned there.

980
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:37,000
I'm I'm sure from what I've heard here that there's every indication that staff and directors everybody does already take climate considerations into pretty much every decision that's made.

981
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:42,000
Best practices are all based on climate mitigation.

982
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:48,000
This is this is current policy in everything we do.

983
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:58,000
I'm cautious about the unintended consequences when we incorporate additional and outside data into our bylaws.

984
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:06,000
We just had some really strong pushback on things because of unintended consequences.

985
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:18,000
And it also cognizant of the fact that we need to be mindful that every time we bring more legislation on board it ends up costing everybody more money.

986
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:22,000
So I'm very happy to receive this.

987
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:35,000
I'm cautious about endorsing it right now because while I think that we have to be aware I don't know if we have to be.

988
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:41,000
If this has to be the overriding policy.

989
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,000
I'm not sure if it's avoided that.

990
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:47,000
It's clearly as I wanted to but.

991
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:55,000
I just wonder if we need to go so far as to incorporate this into our policies.

992
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,000
Thank you for that.

993
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:05,000
I'm going to go back online director DACA second time.

994
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,000
Thank you chair.

995
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:11,000
I just want to say that.

996
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:17,000
I like to direct or thinly refuse to live in fear.

997
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:25,000
If that was the case I'd be in a perpetual state of a feudal position in you know some corner of my house.

998
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:29,000
But what I do choose to do is.

999
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:37,000
What what model of the Council of Canadians recommends and she says we have a moral obligation to hope.

1000
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:43,000
And for me that means we also have a moral obligation to act.

1001
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:49,000
And what what are we going to act on if not a document like this.

1002
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:53,000
But points out to us where we need to act.

1003
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,000
How we need to act.

1004
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:59,000
What we need to mitigate.

1005
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:19,000
I just think we need to move this forward in whatever way we can, endorse it or not. I think it's giving us a pathway and so I just think, you know, what do we go, we can't ignore it. We must act on it. Thank you.

1006
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,000
Dr. Nicholson, please.

1007
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:38,000
Thank you. I think after we've dealt with this emotion, I would like to make a motion about the issue of the board and taking action on climate change.

1008
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:46,000
It's something that I think is, it is a real responsibility when you presented with a report like this.

1009
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:54,000
It is something that we should be taking very seriously and building into our risk analyses.

1010
02:00:54,000 --> 02:01:02,000
And I know that the staff are doing a great job behind the scenes, keeping up with all this stuff.

1011
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:20,000
But I do not think that it is taken into consideration enough when we make budgetary decisions, which is really the only way we can apart from advocacy to the province.

1012
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:32,000
How we invest our taxpayer dollars in the services that we provide is the way that we can have the best impact on addressing real risks.

1013
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:45,000
And I am in particular really concerned about emergency management and would be interested in seeing a report come forward before the next budget cycle about what can happen.

1014
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:53,000
And what should happen to reduce the risks to vulnerable populations about climate change.

1015
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:57,000
Heat, heat, in particular, I think.

1016
02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:01,000
So there are other things that we need to be paying attention to.

1017
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:09,000
And I think that the dollars that we invest today and I know that everyone wants to keep your budget line items as low as possible.

1018
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:21,000
But, you know, it's way cheaper to invest dollars today to prevent things than it is to recover from real problems down the line.

1019
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:27,000
And I live in a lot, like, you know, I keep saying this. I live in the coaxial watershed. We have serious issues.

1020
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:32,000
I mean, we're talking about, the farmers are talking about wanting to dam the river.

1021
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:40,000
And can you imagine, we can't even get a weird, you know, raised at couch and lake and they think a solution is going to be to dam the river.

1022
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:50,000
Well, that'll take like 50 years and I just, if we don't just do the small practical things now, invest in the small practical things we can do.

1023
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:57,000
We're going to be in real trouble in 10, 20 years. So I would like to get back to that conversation after we deal with this motion.

1024
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:09,000
Okay, we'll decide how to do that when we're finished with this one. Could be a notice of motion or something. I will talk to my parliamentarian after this concludes director man has your next.

1025
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:11,000
Thank you, Mr. Chair again.

1026
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:18,000
One simple question. What's the cost implication in this sort of long-term in endorsing this report? Since everything would be looked at.

1027
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:25,000
Have you had Fendorist who will be, every department will look through this lens.

1028
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:27,000
Mr. Moore.

1029
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:46,000
Got through the chair to direct a man has given that these projections are not of that costly different from the currently endorsed 2017 projections, then I think any there wouldn't be additional cost implications.

1030
02:03:47,000 --> 02:04:04,000
Would come more from making decisions about necessary adaptation and those decisions would be the discussion of the board of what's necessary to adopt for this.

1031
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:15,000
This is more about the baseline to be able to have the information to make those decisions down the road.

1032
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,000
I'll leave it at that.

1033
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:22,000
Director Morrison please.

1034
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:24,000
Thank you chair.

1035
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:31,000
I can't believe I'm going to have to vote against this resolution because I fully support having good data.

1036
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:40,000
I think there's been a lot of good discussion around having this information in our toolbox for us and for staff to be able to use.

1037
02:04:40,000 --> 02:05:01,000
But as it's been shared about the unintended consequences and the like I think there's a far more rational patient path forward and would be good governance to to receive this information.

1038
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:07,000
Now it's got to go through to the board before we it's officially endorsed or received.

1039
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:13,000
But we have an opportunity to take the information and we've had this for a few days.

1040
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:19,000
I wasn't able to read the full report to the extent that I wanted to read the full report.

1041
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:42,000
So endorsing versus receiving I'd be fully comfortable with receiving this and I don't see why there would be any challenge with this as a received document coming back with staff to the next board saying okay the previous board took this in as information.

1042
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:46,000
And here it is we would like to see it endorse that a future date.

1043
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:52,000
I think that's a far more reasonable plotting methodical approach to doing this.

1044
02:05:52,000 --> 02:06:04,000
So as far as the motions on the floor I regrettably going to have to vote against it.

1045
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,000
Dr. Segel.

1046
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:08,000
Thank you chair.

1047
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:21,000
I'll be supporting this recommendation. I just wanted to say I'm really grateful for staff for putting this together and bringing us such you know scientifically backed projections and for standing up here for as long as you have answering questions.

1048
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,000
Thank you, Mr. Connor.

1049
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:26,000
Yeah, this is data.

1050
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,000
It's not policy.

1051
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:34,000
This is information for our government to plan.

1052
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,000
We are local government.

1053
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:50,000
Our responsibility is to take care of the people that live here to make sure that they're able to get water out of their taps if we're in the middle of an extremely dry summer.

1054
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:55,000
We already have some systems that have to truck in water.

1055
02:06:55,000 --> 02:07:02,000
Are we prepared if we have an earthquake and you know those trucks can't get to those water systems.

1056
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:06,000
This is our responsibility to plan for these kinds of things.

1057
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:13,000
Of course it's not necessarily always going to be the most catastrophic you know apocalyptic situation.

1058
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:27,000
But I know that I plan in my own home for that and my you know esoteric world is like when I plan for the worse the worse doesn't happen.

1059
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:31,000
This is protecting our infrastructure protecting the people here.

1060
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,000
I agree I don't live in fear.

1061
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:40,000
I plan and make sure that I'm prepared that's why I support this kind of work.

1062
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:45,000
Through the local government.

1063
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:52,000
I want to know that we're able to have facilities that have AC that can work if we have some kind of power issue.

1064
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,000
Again, I'll come back to the earthquake.

1065
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:59,000
What happens if we don't have power and heat dome at the same time?

1066
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:06,000
This kind of information to know what extremes may come is crucial for emergency management.

1067
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:10,000
Such an amazing team I hosted before I was elected.

1068
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:20,000
I hosted a meeting with a nonprofit society to hear from emergency management to know what they're doing in the background constantly.

1069
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:25,000
So that when something happens, there is they're all living amongst us.

1070
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:35,000
There are all these volunteers and staff at the CV or D that are ready and you know look forward to being those helpers that we need within our community.

1071
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:43,000
So this is just baseline data that we need to inform that planning so that we don't have to live in fear.

1072
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:46,000
Which is why I'll be supporting it.

1073
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:48,000
Thank you.

1074
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:53,000
I have no other speakers so I'm going to take a turn.

1075
02:08:53,000 --> 02:09:00,000
I appreciate the diverse conversation and the diverse views brought forward by everyone.

1076
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:08,000
I will not reference director Finley and Libbyten Fear because we all live in fear of something.

1077
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:22,000
As a long time director, the 2017 projections were endorsed by the previous board, which was inherited the next year by the board that came in.

1078
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:29,000
As not policy, but as information scientifically produced.

1079
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:40,000
I see this as no different given that the numbers between 2017 and the projections that have been presented today are not that far out of line.

1080
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:50,000
I look at it as a planning tool to move forward with smart growth or containment can be accommodated.

1081
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:56,000
So with that I will be supporting it and I'm going to call the question.

1082
02:09:56,000 --> 02:10:00,000
All in favor.

1083
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,000
Keep your hands up please.

1084
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:04,000
And opposed.

1085
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:05,000
I'm going to read them.

1086
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,000
I have director Morrison.

1087
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,000
Director Beaston.

1088
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:11,000
Director Calio.

1089
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:13,000
Director Manhass.

1090
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:15,000
Director Finley.

1091
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:17,000
Director Markman.

1092
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:22,000
Online director Wilson.

1093
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:26,000
A post.

1094
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:30,000
And that motion fails.

1095
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:35,000
Did you say it failed?

1096
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,000
Let's try that again.

1097
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:39,000
The opposition please.

1098
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:40,000
Morrison.

1099
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:41,000
Beaston.

1100
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:42,000
Calio.

1101
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:43,000
Manhass.

1102
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:44,000
Finley.

1103
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,000
Markman.

1104
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:48,000
And Wilson.

1105
02:10:48,000 --> 02:11:05,000
Eight seven that motion passes.

1106
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:07,000
Thank you for that.

1107
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:11,000
With that topic being finished.

1108
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:15,000
I'm going to suggest that we take a 10 minute break.

1109
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:21,000
During a gender review we did not allocate two hours to this topic.

1110
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,000
So thank you for.

1111
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:24,000
Mr. Strick.

1112
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:48,000
Mr. Strick.

1113
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:17,000
Mr. Strick.

1114
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,000
Mr. Strick.

1115
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:17,000
Mr. Strick.

1116
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:47,000
Mr. Strick.

1117
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:17,000
Mr. Strick.

1118
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:47,000
Mr. Strick.

1119
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:49,000
Mr. Strick.

1120
02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:52,000
Mr. Strick.

1121
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:55,000
Mr. Strick.

1122
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:57,000
Mr. Strick.

1123
02:14:57,000 --> 02:14:59,000
Mr. Strick.

1124
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:00,000
Mr. Strick.

1125
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,000
Mr. Strick.

1126
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:02,000
Mr. Strick.

1127
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,000
Mr. Strick.

1128
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:06,000
Mr. Strick. Mr. Strick.

1129
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:07,000
Mr. Strick. Mr. Strick.

1130
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:09,000
Mr. Strick. Mr. Strick.

1131
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:10,000
Mr. Strick. Mr. Strick.

1132
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:12,000
Mr. Strick. Mr. Strick.

1133
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:14,000
Mr. Strick. Mr. Strick. Mr. Strick.

1134
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:28,000
We're buffering ladies and gentlemen.

1135
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:09,000
Welcome back, as we reconvene the committee, the whole meeting.

1136
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:13,000
Thank you for bearing with me for a little hydration break.

1137
02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:16,000
Moving on, Ms. Boy, the next item, please.

1138
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:23,000
Thank you, Chair. 8.2, utilities, billed community, strong fund, direct delivery stream.

1139
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:33,000
There's two items on there, would you like them read out to Mr. Mooney, are you presenting her there for questions?

1140
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:37,000
Maybe just briefly if that works for you, Mr. Chair.

1141
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:39,000
Thank you and good morning.

1142
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:47,000
Yeah, I'm presenting the, I'll briefly present this report as Ms. Thompson is a way on a well-deserved vacation break.

1143
02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:57,000
This report seeks border approval to submit two utilities infrastructure projects to the federal billed community strong fund under the direct delivery stream.

1144
02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:05,000
The projects are the self-couch and surface water treatment objective upgrade and consolidation and the shonigan wastewater upgrade into watering facility.

1145
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:09,000
Both estimated cost of those projects set around 7 million each.

1146
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:25,000
The self-couch and surface water treatment objective upgrade and consolidation project will modernize and connect six existing water systems to improve drinking water quality, reliability, and long-term sustainability will reduce the reliance on stressed groundwater sources.

1147
02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:37,000
The shonigan wastewater upgrade into watering facility will improve wastewater treatment and create a shared do watering facility that improves efficiency and environmental performance.

1148
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:45,000
These projects were previously endorsed by the board in 2025 for submission under the strategic priorities fund.

1149
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:58,000
When this new federal funding opportunity became available, staff reviewed the eligibility requirements determined that these same two projects are the only operational projects that currently meet the program criteria.

1150
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:09,000
Specifically that they are shovel ready can begin construction within the required time frame and have the necessary detailed design work in class C cost estimates completed.

1151
02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:14,000
So staff's recommendation today is only to submit the applications.

1152
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:19,000
It does not commit the CVR-D to proceeding with the projects or accepting any funding.

1153
02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:30,000
Should funding be offered particularly if it requires any local contributions, staff will return to the board with details before entering into any potential agreements.

1154
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:32,000
Thank you.

1155
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:34,000
Thank you very much for that.

1156
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,000
I have a speaker list.

1157
02:24:37,000 --> 02:24:39,000
I'd like to move the recommendations.

1158
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:45,000
I have a mover on the seconder, but I still have questions or comments.

1159
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:46,000
Director Acton.

1160
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:51,000
Thank you chair.

1161
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:58,000
I've had lots of my questions already answered, but then I did have a question from the community that it stumped me a little bit.

1162
02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:04,000
Just when it's mentioning.

1163
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:19,000
Burnham is that does that include Burnham Park or like what the Burnham water system, what is the area that it services.

1164
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:24,000
The service area of the Burnham water system.

1165
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:25,000
Is that your question?

1166
02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:26,000
Okay.

1167
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:28,000
Do we have that off the top of our hand?

1168
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:38,000
Question from community if the Burnham Park trailer area was included in that because I know that they've had some water issues.

1169
02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:45,000
So are they included when it says Burnham?

1170
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:53,000
Through the chair, I'm not completely sure if the Burnham Park trailer park is included within the actual service area.

1171
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:55,000
I can certainly find that out.

1172
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:56,000
I can just get an email.

1173
02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:57,000
I can do that.

1174
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,000
Can you take that off line?

1175
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:00,000
Will it?

1176
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:01,000
Yes.

1177
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:02,000
I fully endorse it.

1178
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:04,000
I think it's exciting for the areas.

1179
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:06,000
So it's not going to impact your decision.

1180
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:08,000
You just want that clarification.

1181
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:09,000
Yes.

1182
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:13,000
Just making sure we don't want to keep you out of the loop.

1183
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:14,000
So to speak.

1184
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:15,000
Director Abbott, please.

1185
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:16,000
Thank you chair.

1186
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:21,000
And I was hoping to commend Miss Thompson, but in her absence, I'll commend her superior.

1187
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:25,000
I'm very supportive of this initiative.

1188
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:29,000
But I believe if I were to paraphrase what Miss Thompson wrote.

1189
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:35,000
She submitted the application before fully, fully knowing all the requirements.

1190
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:40,000
And accordingly, 100% funding is not likely, more like 40%.

1191
02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:44,000
So we are, you're likely, this is a probability.

1192
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:50,000
You're likely that your team are going to come back and be advising us how to support the 60%.

1193
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:55,000
But perhaps that was already budgeted before.

1194
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:58,000
Thanks through the chair to the director.

1195
02:26:58,000 --> 02:26:59,000
Yes.

1196
02:26:59,000 --> 02:27:06,000
So there was an expression of interest process that was initiated before the program guide

1197
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:08,000
and the criteria were released.

1198
02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:13,000
And so we had consultations with the program grant.

1199
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:16,000
Folks, we identified these particular projects.

1200
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:19,000
They did determine that they are eligible.

1201
02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:24,000
We made some assumptions, are we released under the impression that these grant offerings

1202
02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:27,000
would be 100% grant offerings.

1203
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:34,000
And so subsequently they released the program guide that does reflect a 40% grant.

1204
02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:43,000
So the recommendation is that we would provide a grant opportunity up to the 100% that we

1205
02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:46,000
were led to believe would be the case through the EOI process.

1206
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:50,000
Which is partly why if it's something, if it comes back something,

1207
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:54,000
if we are successful, it comes back something other than 100, perhaps 40%.

1208
02:27:54,000 --> 02:28:03,000
That's when we would either perhaps look to modify the scope to meet the existing funding that we have in place.

1209
02:28:03,000 --> 02:28:09,000
And then come back to the board to come back to this body with some of that information.

1210
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:10,000
Thank you.

1211
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:12,000
That concludes.

1212
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:13,000
No one else online.

1213
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:15,000
Are you ready for the question?

1214
02:28:15,000 --> 02:28:17,000
All in favor?

1215
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:20,000
Opposed if any?

1216
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:23,000
Motion carries unanimously.

1217
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:27,000
Thank you for that, Mr. Mooney.

1218
02:28:27,000 --> 02:28:28,000
Carry on.

1219
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:32,000
Are you willing to continue fellow directors?

1220
02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:33,000
Lunch is here.

1221
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:35,000
But if you want to carry on, we can do it.

1222
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:37,000
Let's pull all through.

1223
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:39,000
Ms. Boyd.

1224
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:40,000
Thank you, Chair.

1225
02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:43,000
8.3 drinking water and watershed protection partnership.

1226
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:46,000
Mr. Moor.

1227
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:52,000
Thank you to the Chair.

1228
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:59,000
I'll just give a couple of brief remarks just as an overview of what we're looking at here.

1229
02:28:59,000 --> 02:29:02,000
And then happy to take any questions.

1230
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:17,000
So basically we're coming before you looking for direction on the drinking water watershed protection program partnerships for the current 2026 year.

1231
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:24,000
In the past, our process has been that usually these decisions would have been made in late 2025.

1232
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:28,000
And we're looking for you'll recall that we were in the process.

1233
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:33,000
Mr. Elzingo was developing a new policy around contributions to community groups.

1234
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:36,000
We wanted to make sure we're in alignment with that.

1235
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:45,000
Now that that policy has been endorsed, it actually started with the assumption that for this year the decisions would have already been made.

1236
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:51,000
So given that they haven't, we're looking for direction on those partnerships.

1237
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:58,000
Last year we provided strategic partnership planning to for organizations within the community.

1238
02:29:58,000 --> 02:30:01,000
The couch and watershed board trying to give me.

1239
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:22,000
And also the partnership for water sustainability in BC is a province-wide organization. All four organizations have indicated they would like to continue, extend these agreements for an additional year, so the recommendations for that to her before you.

1240
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:29,000
For that brief calls, notes and opposites, looking for a speaker's list, director Calio.

1241
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:32,000
I'd just like to move the recommended.

1242
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:43,000
Okay, we have a mover and a seconder. Any questions? Director Wilson.

1243
02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:50,000
Yeah, thank you, Director Calio. Beat me, I was going to move the recommendation and complete no brainer here.

1244
02:30:50,000 --> 02:31:04,000
It's a good thing. One thing I would ask of Jeff, do we get any kind of annual updates from these organizations as to what they've actually done?

1245
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:20,000
Yes, we generally do, and that's a part of the new policy that the degree of reporting out that is required depends on the threshold.

1246
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:27,000
So there's one standard for amounts between 5 and 50,000 and then above 50,000, there's additional requirements.

1247
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:40,000
So you'll likely recall that in the past the couch and watershed board has come forward with their annual impact report that they present on their activities and what they're doing with the good work.

1248
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:48,000
And they are prepared to do that again this fall. It just needs to be endorsed by their board before they bring it here.

1249
02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:52,000
Good stuff. Thank you very much, Jeff. Thank you for that. Director Nicholson.

1250
02:31:52,000 --> 02:31:58,000
Thank you. Thanks for your report.

1251
02:31:58,000 --> 02:32:13,000
So given the climate change projections that we see, water I think is going to become an increasing water and watersheds are going to become a bigger and bigger issue as we move forward.

1252
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:17,000
And this is definitely one of those situations.

1253
02:32:17,000 --> 02:32:27,000
Director Stapleton that we can work with the community on. It's really important to work with the community on because it's not something we can address ourselves.

1254
02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:32,000
So I really appreciate these partnership investments.

1255
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:35,000
I am.

1256
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:49,000
I got questions about the North couch and request though because it seems that I'm a bit confused because we did already provide $200 for an erasian trial thing that in quamich and lake correct.

1257
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:56,000
$200,000 and and.

1258
02:32:56,000 --> 02:33:01,000
I want to know who your supplier is.

1259
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:16,000
And now we have another request for an additional $100,000 is this going to be an annual thing and what's now we're adding in or maybe we've already provided funding for the salminos but I'm looking at.

1260
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:21,000
Okay. Those are that's my first question.

1261
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:27,000
Thank you through the chair to direct your nettle sin. So yes, with respect to North Galician.

1262
02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:49,000
They did present a request in 2025 asking for two different types of funding. So for 2025 we gave them 50 that $58,000 for their water quality work on on salminos and quamich and.

1263
02:33:49,000 --> 02:34:01,000
And that that's the similar request that's coming forward this year they're actually asking for the 50,000 for salminos and an additional 100,000 for monitoring on quamich and lake.

1264
02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:08,000
So that is sort of the long term piece and we would could consider.

1265
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:17,000
Based on the new policy looking at next year's request for a length of a partnership if it's going to be ongoing.

1266
02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:26,000
The the $200,000 was a separate one time request that wasn't through this partnership program.

1267
02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:35,000
And that was for instead of just trying to understand the problem looking at a solution so that that's what was provided there.

1268
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:44,000
So we'll set the aeration of trial aside, but we've gone up considerably from 58,000 to $150,000 request.

1269
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:59,000
So I'm thinking about like I just think this kind of work is very important, but I'm also thinking about the fact that we've got shonic and lake and we provide that society with 15,000.

1270
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:12,000
And we don't provide anything to couch and lake for that as far as I know although I do remember director deck provided millfoil funding I think for for millfoil could.

1271
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:21,000
So it so it just seems to me from a regional perspective when we are moving forward with limited funds we really need to make sure that we're putting.

1272
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:36,000
The funding around the region fairly, but also where the risk is highest and where we've got the biggest issues so and where we can get the best bang for our buck.

1273
02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:42,000
So I'm not I'm not getting a sense that we have that information here to make that kind of a decision.

1274
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:52,000
Is it possible that we could have that information for next year or like I don't want to get locked into a situation where we've run out of money for partnership funding.

1275
02:35:52,000 --> 02:36:00,000
So we can't do our own work or the own work that CBRD does on the yeah it's just to me this I'm just a bit worried.

1276
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:02,000
I'll leave it there.

1277
02:36:02,000 --> 02:36:06,000
Thank you to the chair to director Nicholson.

1278
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:22,000
At the for this year the the funding request that have been put forward are within the budget that you've allocated to this partnership program and anticipating that in other years there the requests will exceed the amount that's available.

1279
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:35,000
The the process that the the new policy provides for is for staff to bring recommendations and information to the committee to make decisions around.

1280
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:44,000
How they would choose to allocate those funds and also because it's done through part of the budget process that another option could be.

1281
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:53,000
If there's a number of requests that are deemed to be worth supporting then the budget to be increased for that as well.

1282
02:36:53,000 --> 02:37:02,000
So it is yeah they we look to the committee for direction on the appropriate allocation of these funds.

1283
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:07,000
Thank you for that just to be clear what is the current.

1284
02:37:07,000 --> 02:37:12,000
I think it's a little financial budget for the partnership stream.

1285
02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:19,000
To the chair for the 2020 thanks budget it was increased to 250 thousand dollars.

1286
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:23,000
Thank you just so that we're all on the same page and.

1287
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:30,000
I will go to my speaker list before I carry on director Morrison.

1288
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:43,000
Some of the same angst that director Nicholson is being here when this went to the public there was.

1289
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:50,000
No thought whatsoever of the funding within this envelope to be.

1290
02:37:51,000 --> 02:38:03,000
Allocated to another local government now we've staff have looked into it and yes it's a viable project and it qualifies and all of that and to deliver it.

1291
02:38:03,000 --> 02:38:10,000
A partnership with our municipal partners over in our couch and then I will hold my nose and vote for this.

1292
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:23,000
But this is so dramatically different than what was initially anticipated when this went to the public I think that this envelope of funding was supposed to be for the.

1293
02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:29,000
The basic societies and the other organizations that were.

1294
02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:39,000
You know needing a little bit of money to stay afloat and to do some good works so the scale and allocation of this as I think.

1295
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:49,000
Beyond the scope of what we initially presented to the public I will support the resolution that's here but my question for staff is.

1296
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:57,000
I know that we've sort of made this this funding and this program.

1297
02:38:57,000 --> 02:39:06,000
Available to different groups and we've we've announced that this is a funding source.

1298
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:15,000
It isn't very regional right now and we've got two great big bodies of water and watersheds that are as a percentage.

1299
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:28,000
Not getting a whole lot of funding and there are groups out there there groups doing work so are we proactively going to community groups and saying what have you got how can we help.

1300
02:39:28,000 --> 02:39:35,000
We have this this this funding envelope with these criteria or are we.

1301
02:39:35,000 --> 02:39:42,000
Receiving expressions of interest from those those groups that are doing some of this work so.

1302
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:46,000
It is ours at a combination of both I'd like to know.

1303
02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:50,000
How we're getting the word.

1304
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:53,000
Yeah through the the chair to director Morrison.

1305
02:39:53,000 --> 02:40:01,000
The the policy doesn't encourage going out and soliciting inquiries.

1306
02:40:01,000 --> 02:40:11,000
That being said we do have regular discussions with a bunch of different community groups to make them aware of this funding opportunity.

1307
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:25,000
I have had discussions with with other groups trying to to look to more of a regional representation and to date groups in the in the north and the west part of the region have looked into.

1308
02:40:25,000 --> 02:40:32,000
Applying for this sort of funding and found that it hasn't necessarily been the best fit at this time.

1309
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:42,000
I certainly encourage more applications and would would hope that we do get more more representation.

1310
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:47,000
Just as a follow up, you know, I think that we are heading into a.

1311
02:40:47,000 --> 02:40:58,000
A period of a very tight fiscal circumstances and I think that we need to ensure that a fully regional.

1312
02:40:58,000 --> 02:41:04,000
I think should like this is represented regionally through where our dollars are going.

1313
02:41:04,000 --> 02:41:17,000
So I think that there should be some education given to to a new board is to how we can ensure that appropriate groups are making appropriate applications and that we're.

1314
02:41:17,000 --> 02:41:22,000
Maybe being a little bit more regionally sensitive with the dollars that we do have available.

1315
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:24,000
Thank you.

1316
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:26,000
I'll go to director justice next.

1317
02:41:26,000 --> 02:41:32,000
Yeah, thank you just to respond to a little bit especially to the regionality question.

1318
02:41:32,000 --> 02:41:41,000
I mean, these projects are in north couch and but the water bodies and questions and the issues they're facing are definitely regional.

1319
02:41:41,000 --> 02:41:47,000
The quantum lake work is really important because of our regional commitment to rolling Canada.

1320
02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:56,000
But also because the outflow of quamitch and lake goes down through couch and tribes village of quamitch and.

1321
02:41:56,000 --> 02:42:00,000
And then into the lower river and estuary.

1322
02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:13,000
I think we need to be able to control regional concerns the summer's water quality is important for exactly the same reasons, but also because of efforts to restore salmon habitat, which was.

1323
02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:21,000
Once it apparently historically a very important for for types of salmon.

1324
02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:34,000
And as for the you know getting the best bang for the bottom, I think supporting these projects does get a very big bang for the buck because of the huge amount of resources both.

1325
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:46,000
Past and present time and expertise that the municipalities independently putting into them so.

1326
02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:54,000
I conclude thank you, going to go online to director acting.

1327
02:42:54,000 --> 02:43:01,000
Thank you, I too have some concerns around what we initially told the community.

1328
02:43:01,000 --> 02:43:10,000
How this we had originally set out to have 50,000 dollars a year your mark for.

1329
02:43:10,000 --> 02:43:28,000
The community groups and now this has changed significantly and we used to actually present more with our and it was a regional plan and it included ladiesmith and included shamanis and.

1330
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:33,000
I think that would actually be helpful and then also.

1331
02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:48,000
Revealing the the reporting, but and then also having in our policy a timeline as to how long we.

1332
02:43:48,000 --> 02:43:52,000
Give these funds to just because people come forward requesting the funds.

1333
02:43:52,000 --> 02:43:57,000
I don't think we they it should automatically just be accepted.

1334
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:04,000
And and especially this is a large amount going to North Calutons research.

1335
02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:13,000
I saw in the graph of what they were spending it on and one thing was volunteer coordination so that are is this.

1336
02:44:13,000 --> 02:44:19,000
I'm including staff time and is and is that in the policy to allow for some of this.

1337
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:24,000
These funds to be paying for staff time so.

1338
02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:31,000
I'll be supporting it for now but at least some of the other speakers that think it has to be.

1339
02:44:31,000 --> 02:44:35,000
More oversight and more.

1340
02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:43,000
More regional thinking and more planning so that all areas are getting proper.

1341
02:44:43,000 --> 02:44:51,000
Testing because to me that this money was supposed to be mostly just for water testing.

1342
02:44:51,000 --> 02:44:56,000
Not really a question there so we'll just move on thank you for your comments.

1343
02:44:56,000 --> 02:44:58,000
Dr. Segal.

1344
02:44:58,000 --> 02:45:00,000
Thank you chair.

1345
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,940
I don't have any issue with supporting the Salmonos Marsh Wildlife Society, but I just have a question of why that request is coming through North

1346
02:45:08,940 --> 02:45:13,940
College in and not directly through the DWP here.

1347
02:45:13,940 --> 02:45:23,300
Get through the chair to director. That is mainly because there's been a long-established relationship

1348
02:45:23,300 --> 02:45:30,940
where North College and his contract with the Salmonos Marsh Wildlife Society to do the testing work.

1349
02:45:30,940 --> 02:45:38,940
And their preference has been to maintain that, rather than having the Salmonos Marsh Wildlife Society applied directly.

1350
02:45:38,940 --> 02:45:48,940
Okay, got it. And will any of those funds be lost in administrative costs in the moving of that money between the government bodies?

1351
02:45:48,940 --> 02:45:56,940
There wouldn't be in that one. It's an established contract that the funds go directly towards that.

1352
02:45:56,940 --> 02:46:00,940
And one more question. Oh, I guess.

1353
02:46:00,940 --> 02:46:08,940
Okay, so this is just to help me understand we've got, you know, the Shining and Basin Society that's doing a bunch of stuff for 15,000 dollars.

1354
02:46:08,940 --> 02:46:14,940
And then the quamitch and lake water quality program that costs $100,000 dollars.

1355
02:46:14,940 --> 02:46:22,940
Like, can you explain not just some really simple terms? Is that just because of the algal bloom situation in quamitch and lake?

1356
02:46:22,940 --> 02:46:31,940
Or like, why is it so affordable in Shining and Lake? And very different for quamitch and lake. Thanks.

1357
02:46:31,940 --> 02:46:43,940
Yeah, through the chair to address the gal. It is partly because of the this severity of the the water quality issues in quamitch and lake.

1358
02:46:43,940 --> 02:46:58,940
So the surface water quality monitoring program that we that we have that some of this work is supporting is working to establish baseline conditions across the region with a, you know, a standardized three times a year sampling.

1359
02:46:58,940 --> 02:47:06,940
And then in cases where there's a problem identified that we can do some more focused intensive sampling.

1360
02:47:06,940 --> 02:47:15,940
So the case of Salmonos in quamitch and there's a lot of evidence of North Calichens been working on this for for a lot of years collecting data.

1361
02:47:15,940 --> 02:47:27,940
And they have a very robust monitoring program there. So in some senses that's expensive and also produces a lot of good data to understand that.

1362
02:47:27,940 --> 02:47:30,940
To understand that water quality.

1363
02:47:30,940 --> 02:47:37,940
In in Shana again, part of it is the capacity than it.

1364
02:47:37,940 --> 02:47:43,940
Excuse me, the nature of the organization that's doing the work. This is the request that they've made.

1365
02:47:43,940 --> 02:47:53,940
And the extent of the sampling program that's in place there is much smaller than what's happening in quamitch.

1366
02:47:53,940 --> 02:47:56,940
Thank you director Nicholson next.

1367
02:47:56,940 --> 02:47:59,940
Thank you. I was just wondering if you've.

1368
02:47:59,940 --> 02:48:02,940
Recent or do you plan.

1369
02:48:02,940 --> 02:48:08,940
It would be nice to see that your climate projection updated thing.

1370
02:48:08,940 --> 02:48:21,940
Look, looking at the water drinking water and water protection program and rationalizing where we're focusing our, our investments because I think I know that.

1371
02:48:21,940 --> 02:48:25,940
I know that there's lots of water quality issues and that's very important.

1372
02:48:25,940 --> 02:48:34,940
I also know that North Calichens largely could decide to land use around their lakes and probably as contributed over the years to that problem.

1373
02:48:34,940 --> 02:48:38,940
So I don't think offloading it on the region.

1374
02:48:38,940 --> 02:48:49,940
If there are other priorities that from a risk and future risk with, you know, because that one that's not going to be solved very quickly anyway.

1375
02:48:49,940 --> 02:48:55,940
So I just, I really think we need to start thinking about how we invest for the future.

1376
02:48:55,940 --> 02:48:57,940
And I mean for the next 20 years.

1377
02:48:57,940 --> 02:49:00,940
Like, what do we expect to get at the end?

1378
02:49:00,940 --> 02:49:06,940
Because, you know, it as director Morrison said dollars are tight.

1379
02:49:06,940 --> 02:49:10,940
We really need to, to invest smartly now.

1380
02:49:10,940 --> 02:49:18,940
And I, I also like to say that we're complaint comparing apples and oranges when we talk about these partnerships things because

1381
02:49:18,940 --> 02:49:23,940
a lot of the work that the stewardship groups do which is absolutely critical.

1382
02:49:23,940 --> 02:49:30,940
A lot of the work that we all do on water is an offload from the province who has responsibility.

1383
02:49:30,940 --> 02:49:33,940
So let's acknowledge that.

1384
02:49:33,940 --> 02:49:45,940
But they obviously are not going to pick up and do everything that we need to have done locally and where the ones that are going to experience the problems as they roll out in the future.

1385
02:49:45,940 --> 02:49:56,940
So let's, let's acknowledge that there's more than just testing water quality to understanding how well we're doing on the waterfront.

1386
02:49:56,940 --> 02:49:59,940
Water supply is a huge issue.

1387
02:49:59,940 --> 02:50:09,940
But also just the communities understanding of where the water comes from, how they need to be more conservation oriented in the summertime when we have these aquifers.

1388
02:50:09,940 --> 02:50:17,940
People actually don't really understand, they think that there's these lakes underneath the ground and that they're endless supply of water in the ground.

1389
02:50:17,940 --> 02:50:24,940
And there's not it's all connected and just raising the whole communities understanding of water is so important.

1390
02:50:24,940 --> 02:50:32,940
And a lot of the work that the couch on waterfront board does is around bringing community together on water issues.

1391
02:50:32,940 --> 02:50:39,940
And you know, $77,000 is very little money for what the work that they do.

1392
02:50:39,940 --> 02:50:45,940
So if you try and compare apples to oranges, it gets more and more difficult with tight dollars.

1393
02:50:45,940 --> 02:50:51,940
And so we need to start putting in place some policy around how that would happen.

1394
02:50:51,940 --> 02:51:01,940
Because like the watershed board is you can't even compare it to a stewardship society because it's got this whole reconciliation personations thing with it.

1395
02:51:01,940 --> 02:51:16,940
So you know, like we have to be thinking about this as we make these decisions because once you start giving your couch in $150,000 for this work, it's not going to go away and it's hard to pull money back.

1396
02:51:16,940 --> 02:51:17,940
Sorry.

1397
02:51:17,940 --> 02:51:19,940
Thank you.

1398
02:51:19,940 --> 02:51:22,940
Again, just comments on nothing there, Mr. Moore.

1399
02:51:22,940 --> 02:51:27,940
Director, Marvin.

1400
02:51:27,940 --> 02:51:30,940
There it is. Thank you, Chair.

1401
02:51:31,940 --> 02:51:46,940
I guess, and this is very high level, but given that everything is centered from north couch and caption like south and we haven't got any way of sort of funding.

1402
02:51:46,940 --> 02:51:51,940
There's nothing north or even west it sounds like.

1403
02:51:51,940 --> 02:51:54,940
When does this become a subregional function?

1404
02:51:54,940 --> 02:52:08,940
Like what point is that I get the idea of when we started this that yes, this should be region wide, but it's feeling like it's not.

1405
02:52:08,940 --> 02:52:23,940
Through the chair to director, Marvin, the DWWP as a whole has a very much regional focus and it's a you know a balance between understanding where the issues are.

1406
02:52:23,940 --> 02:52:38,940
And you know, spreading resources evenly versus concentrating on the hotspots that there there's some areas where it there bigger problems and they might need more more funding.

1407
02:52:38,940 --> 02:52:50,940
In terms of the the partnership policy itself, as it the nature of the the program is that it is supporting groups that are coming forward and asking for funding support.

1408
02:52:50,940 --> 02:53:09,940
So if there are no groups in a particular part of the region who are making the requests, then there's not really a mechanism for that part of the DWVP funding to go to that region, that's not to say that the rest of the work being done in the region.

1409
02:53:09,940 --> 02:53:22,940
It doesn't apply there you we you're well aware of the the work with the the idea on the water budget, which is something that I know other parts of the region would like to see that applied elsewhere as well.

1410
02:53:22,940 --> 02:53:25,940
Thanks for the actual question director, Marvin.

1411
02:53:25,940 --> 02:53:32,940
Online again to director action.

1412
02:53:32,940 --> 02:53:35,940
Okay, can you put your hand down then.

1413
02:53:35,940 --> 02:53:36,940
Thank you.

1414
02:53:36,940 --> 02:53:38,940
Dr. Kelly.

1415
02:53:38,940 --> 02:53:40,940
Thank you.

1416
02:53:40,940 --> 02:53:44,940
Yeah, I'm listening to everybody's speaker today it's.

1417
02:53:44,940 --> 02:53:51,940
I get the feeling that you know it's it's it's almost like we're.

1418
02:53:51,940 --> 02:53:56,940
You know we're asking to have money given directly to North College and what's going to the.

1419
02:53:56,940 --> 02:54:05,940
And generally what are quality program, which is a very important program for this region, which.

1420
02:54:05,940 --> 02:54:12,940
You know me is probably North College in this part of the CVRE, as his Ladiesmith Lake college in.

1421
02:54:12,940 --> 02:54:21,940
You know, the to me I see this as a partnership this is this is I think I said I kinda get the feeling that.

1422
02:54:21,940 --> 02:54:26,500
at the table that this money is being given to North College and it's not being given to North

1423
02:54:26,500 --> 02:54:27,500
College.

1424
02:54:27,500 --> 02:54:33,140
It's being used to do the Aeration Project on Quantum Lake, which is such an important

1425
02:54:33,140 --> 02:54:43,380
project for this community as director, Justice Volk Gurdier, the Avery on Rowing Canada,

1426
02:54:43,380 --> 02:54:47,380
is at and on Quantum Lake on a daily basis.

1427
02:54:47,380 --> 02:54:55,460
I live literally right across the road from their facility and I walk my dogs down to Lake

1428
02:54:55,460 --> 02:54:59,540
and speak to the rollers and that and, you know, I was just down at the other day and

1429
02:54:59,540 --> 02:55:06,740
looking at the quality of the water and that lake and, you know, I've been told by our

1430
02:55:06,740 --> 02:55:11,740
Dr. Prekshot that the other water doesn't look good, but it's actually not as bad as

1431
02:55:11,740 --> 02:55:20,660
it looks, but, you know, this to me is such an important part of the greater part of the

1432
02:55:20,660 --> 02:55:26,380
CVRD, I mean, and to me, I see this as a partnership.

1433
02:55:26,380 --> 02:55:31,900
Thank you for that. Before I go to you, Director Nicholson, I do have a question Mr. Morif, you

1434
02:55:31,900 --> 02:55:37,820
don't mind. Just wondering how many strategic partnership applications were received this

1435
02:55:37,900 --> 02:55:44,460
year? Through the chair, these were the four that we received this year, so this is the

1436
02:55:44,460 --> 02:55:49,580
extent to the funding request. Thank you very much, Director Nicholson.

1437
02:55:53,580 --> 02:55:58,220
Thank you. I actually did have a question last time. I'm sorry.

1438
02:55:58,220 --> 02:56:05,420
And I forgot myself, but now I remember it. I so I really want to understand whether and if

1439
02:56:06,380 --> 02:56:12,140
the what drinking water watershed protection program will be reviewing and re-aligning

1440
02:56:13,020 --> 02:56:19,500
what your your recommendations on emphasis based on the climate projections. That's one question

1441
02:56:19,500 --> 02:56:25,180
that I have another question after that. Through the chair to Dr. Nicholson, just are you

1442
02:56:25,740 --> 02:56:32,460
to clarify the focus of this partnership project or of the DWWP is a whole?

1443
02:56:33,100 --> 02:56:39,340
Well, the DWD is a whole, but you know, it speaks to the partnerships thing. Yeah. So

1444
02:56:41,180 --> 02:56:51,420
through the chair, the DWWP has a number of different components and initially we've been focused on

1445
02:56:51,420 --> 02:56:57,580
the water quality. We also have our hydrometric and climatic monitoring strategy which speaks to

1446
02:56:57,580 --> 02:57:03,660
the water quantity and trying to get a better understanding of that and then the other piece that

1447
02:57:03,660 --> 02:57:12,300
you spoke to is around conservation and education and outreach and we do have staff that are

1448
02:57:12,940 --> 02:57:21,820
actively working on that, going out into the community and presenting on water conservation

1449
02:57:21,820 --> 02:57:29,980
education, better understanding of watersheds, where people's water comes from and then along with that,

1450
02:57:29,980 --> 02:57:36,140
we've also kicked off our water conservation rebate program which has been quite popular so far.

1451
02:57:36,140 --> 02:57:41,580
So we're looking at a lot of different aspects of this. In terms of the partnership program

1452
02:57:41,900 --> 02:57:49,340
specifically, if groups came forward with proposals and work that they wanted to do more around

1453
02:57:49,980 --> 02:57:53,900
other aspects of the program then that could certainly be supported.

1454
02:57:55,740 --> 02:58:01,340
Thank you. So I guess what I'm looking for is a much more targeted on our priorities kind of approach

1455
02:58:01,340 --> 02:58:07,420
to take advantage of the stewardship community and where they can help we're achieving what we think

1456
02:58:07,420 --> 02:58:13,740
of the most important things to do from the perspective of the future. But my other question is

1457
02:58:13,740 --> 02:58:19,660
and I don't know if you can answer this but maybe the counselors could what we spending on

1458
02:58:20,540 --> 02:58:27,020
in total on quamitch and in some of those lakes a year for water quality, not including the special

1459
02:58:27,020 --> 02:58:33,820
erasure and trial, how much is North Couch and contributing to this. If we're spending 150,000

1460
02:58:33,820 --> 02:58:42,940
how much in total is the program? Yeah, the child, not sure if I have that information.

1461
02:58:42,940 --> 02:58:43,980
No, I wouldn't expect you to.

1462
02:58:53,900 --> 02:58:59,260
Yeah, just looking through North Couch and spending in a quest they didn't give the overall budget for that.

1463
02:59:00,140 --> 02:59:06,140
And I don't think the counselors from North Couch and have a current understanding of the total

1464
02:59:06,140 --> 02:59:12,700
financial contribution at the moment but I'm sure if you reached out to North Couch and they would most

1465
02:59:12,700 --> 02:59:19,340
certainly provide that to you. I see no more speakers. Are you ready for the question?

1466
02:59:19,900 --> 02:59:31,580
All in favor? Opposed if any? That motion carries unanimously as well.

1467
02:59:33,820 --> 02:59:39,740
With that, next item. Thank you, Chair. I have no new business. We move to question period.

1468
02:59:41,980 --> 02:59:48,940
Then a question period is an opportunity to offer the public an opportunity to ask questions directly

1469
02:59:48,940 --> 02:59:55,740
related to today's business. Question period allows for 15 minutes. Each questioner is permitted.

1470
02:59:55,740 --> 02:59:59,420
One question plus a follow-up related to the answer.

1471
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:23,000
Question must truly be a question and not a statement of opinion or speech. We request that your question is presented in a friendly and respectful manner, and your cooperation in maintaining a safe, respectful and orderly environment is greatly appreciated. I will do my best to answer if I cannot, we will get back to you.

1472
03:00:23,000 --> 03:00:35,000
Thank you, Chair McGonagall. It's Kim Bernard from Area B, Showellic and John again Lake. My questions revolve around who's responsible and what resources does the community have access to.

1473
03:00:35,000 --> 03:00:44,000
So going back in the order of how they appeared on the agenda, I'd like to ask about the drinking water and watershed protection program.

1474
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:58,000
One of the referendum, I've got the original information that said when this service was passed, it would also address emergency water supply plans.

1475
03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:11,000
So my question is, do we have those, especially for the utilities mentioned in today's report like liquid waste management require a steady supply of water, even in the event of power outages?

1476
03:01:11,000 --> 03:01:19,000
And are we looking at community scale systems and rainwater collection? So a multifaceted question, Chair.

1477
03:01:19,000 --> 03:01:26,000
Two part question and I'll answer the second part first, not the first part second.

1478
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:38,000
So the sister in program has recently been adopted as an option moving forward in the regional district through a policy recently about a month ago, I believe,

1479
03:01:38,000 --> 03:01:44,000
and that is in place for application by residents within the College Valley Regional District.

1480
03:01:44,000 --> 03:01:58,000
On the first item, I do not have an answer to that as it is more operational than political, but I can have staff reply to me and I'll reach out to you in a future.

1481
03:01:58,000 --> 03:02:06,000
And yes, not just for residents, Chair, but also for CVRD utilities that they have an emergency water supply in order to function.

1482
03:02:06,000 --> 03:02:27,000
And my next question has to do with the climate projections. I was looking at a related report that couch in 2050, regional collaborative framework and under climate adaptation, it describes one of our practical local level neighborhood resilience planning work.

1483
03:02:27,000 --> 03:02:44,000
So I believe director Segal referenced this as well, those kitchen table conversations. So my question is, who is responsible for this local level of neighborhood resilience planning work and does that look like neighborhood mapping?

1484
03:02:44,000 --> 03:02:51,000
Where does this come from? How do we deploy it? Who is responsible at the local level? Thank you.

1485
03:02:51,000 --> 03:02:54,000
Great question. I think we're all responsible.

1486
03:02:54,000 --> 03:03:01,000
Locally, neighborhood, and regionally. So everyone is involved with the 2050 program.

1487
03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:10,000
Okay, so the data, the scientific data comes from the census update or do you, this is a follow up question, Chair.

1488
03:03:10,000 --> 03:03:14,000
That's four questions. I don't think I can answer that one.

1489
03:03:14,000 --> 03:03:21,000
Okay. No, I don't have an answer to that. I will follow up with you. I'll follow up with you. I'll follow up with you.

1490
03:03:21,000 --> 03:03:34,000
Just a little levity for you, ma'am. Oh, good. It's blueberry day. You remembered. Any further questions? Thank you, ma'am.

1491
03:03:34,000 --> 03:03:38,000
Thank you, Mr. Chair and Board.

1492
03:03:38,000 --> 03:03:46,000
I'll make it to a question, but I do have to at least lead to how the question works.

1493
03:03:46,000 --> 03:03:55,000
The drink water and watershed protection partnership, including wastewater, is, as we all know, critical in our area.

1494
03:03:55,000 --> 03:03:59,000
And I've worked with water in the past, so I recognize that.

1495
03:03:59,000 --> 03:04:10,000
So referring in specifically, I guess, to the quamatchan and some of those lake situation as a representation of our problems, as well as our sewage legumes.

1496
03:04:10,000 --> 03:04:20,000
My question would be based on, no matter how long period of water or wastewater is, there is, there are solutions that are very affordable.

1497
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:25,000
So why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in from what we've heard by questions today?

1498
03:04:25,000 --> 03:04:30,000
We're not even sure how many millions it may end up being by the time.

1499
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:34,000
There is a possible solution to some of these different situations.

1500
03:04:34,000 --> 03:04:39,000
Don't utility board as we know is climbing up to 98 million, etc.

1501
03:04:39,000 --> 03:05:03,000
So the question is, to how and to whom should a specific solution be presented when we're told that the provincial government, and we've heard it here today, oversees waterways, controls, approvals, and how do we put forward a solution to actually solve the problem?

1502
03:05:03,000 --> 03:05:08,000
So how do I say that?

1503
03:05:08,000 --> 03:05:30,000
When the cost is so low, the performance can be based on a pilot test, and with this just saying bio-engine energetics technology has cleaned up lakes and waterways and sewage treatments and all, and there are tested on the monitoring can be confirmed by third-party labs, test,

1504
03:05:30,000 --> 03:05:37,000
and test include nitrogen reductions, CBOD, water, clarity, odor, TSS, total solids, ECOI, pH.

1505
03:05:37,000 --> 03:05:47,000
So how do we actually put the connection together for the solution for the needs that affect all of us that we all pay for?

1506
03:05:47,000 --> 03:05:50,000
Well, thank you very much. I'll try to answer that question.

1507
03:05:50,000 --> 03:05:55,000
That was a roundabout way to ask sort of a question and I'll give you sort of an answer.

1508
03:05:55,000 --> 03:06:06,000
I think if any stewardship partnership had that possibility of coming forward with those ideas, that would be the avenue under the current framework of the policy.

1509
03:06:06,000 --> 03:06:12,000
For individual people to bring that forward, I think is outside of the DWP.

1510
03:06:13,000 --> 03:06:25,000
But that would be an advocacy point for yourself or anyone else who's concerned with that process to move forward with political advocacy to your local MLA MPs.

1511
03:06:25,000 --> 03:06:31,000
Because it's not just a provincial entity, there's federal oversight as well in waterways.

1512
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:40,000
So it's a very convoluted process and whatever answers we have, our should be made with the best decisions.

1513
03:06:41,000 --> 03:06:56,000
And if I may direct our Allison Nicholson made a really good observation, so would a possible solution be to approach the couch and water shed society, which I've attended their meetings in the past, but her concerns were very valid as to the approach.

1514
03:06:56,000 --> 03:07:04,000
And I don't want to answer on behalf of the couch and watershed board, but I'm sure they're open to correspondence or input at any point.

1515
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:06,000
Awesome. Thanks for your help, everyone.

1516
03:07:06,000 --> 03:07:08,000
Thank you.

1517
03:07:08,000 --> 03:07:13,000
Seeing no further. Oh, I do.

1518
03:07:13,000 --> 03:07:18,000
Don't know. Just to.

1519
03:07:18,000 --> 03:07:22,000
I won't take offense about.

1520
03:07:22,000 --> 03:07:31,000
My name is Susan Kaufman, and I'm from Southland, and I just want to go back to 8.1, the climate adaptation report.

1521
03:07:31,000 --> 03:07:39,000
In the conclusion, and if I may just read out these five bullet points and they'll give you my question.

1522
03:07:39,000 --> 03:08:00,000
Raising awareness of how climate change will impact the region, supporting strategic and long-term planning, informing emergency preparedness and response planning for extreme events, conducting risk assessments to inform adaptation actions and designing infrastructure that considers future climate.

1523
03:08:00,000 --> 03:08:12,000
Future climate conditions. So my question, Mr. Chair, is our region has been impacted by flooding landslides throughout the region.

1524
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:14,000
The heat domes.

1525
03:08:14,000 --> 03:08:29,000
How will the public, or how will the board support the public in providing those protections in our planning?

1526
03:08:29,000 --> 03:08:44,000
Whether it's building, growth, emergency management, because we all, we don't want those to be in those scenarios, but they are in inevitable.

1527
03:08:44,000 --> 03:08:54,000
So I don't want this to be seen. Can we have assurances that this won't be a developer-led.

1528
03:08:54,000 --> 03:09:01,000
Concerns that with these conditions would not be addressed to protect the public.

1529
03:09:01,000 --> 03:09:10,000
Thank you very much. I'm not a scientist, but I played one on stage once.

1530
03:09:10,000 --> 03:09:13,000
I'm mad scientist.

1531
03:09:13,000 --> 03:09:18,000
I think the public needs the information to make smart choices.

1532
03:09:18,000 --> 03:09:26,000
I don't see this personally as an overarching developer-based climate projection.

1533
03:09:26,000 --> 03:09:36,000
I see it as a region-based to make decisions on smart growth within those limits that it can be accommodated.

1534
03:09:36,000 --> 03:09:45,000
Personally, I think it will be probably published on our website or other avenues for the public to consume.

1535
03:09:45,000 --> 03:09:56,000
And to deal with, appropriately, as they see fit, we will put that forward to the board, whether it's endorsed or not as a decision of this body at the board.

1536
03:09:56,000 --> 03:10:03,000
Given today's vote, I'm sure there will be further discussions, so stay tuned, and we'll see where it goes from there.

1537
03:10:03,000 --> 03:10:08,000
That's my concern because when we talk about the prolonged heat.

1538
03:10:08,000 --> 03:10:18,000
You know, when we hear relatively new buildings that were built without AC or heat pumps,

1539
03:10:18,000 --> 03:10:23,000
but also did not have the electrical capacity to be added afterwards.

1540
03:10:23,000 --> 03:10:26,000
And I think that's really important looking forward.

1541
03:10:26,000 --> 03:10:37,000
Will the board support the ability for those crucial infrastructures to be included?

1542
03:10:37,000 --> 03:10:46,000
I think there's options available to through the province for cooling units for those who meet the threshold.

1543
03:10:46,000 --> 03:10:54,000
Without going into too much detail, if we continue down the line of staying with the step code, etc.

1544
03:10:54,000 --> 03:11:02,000
And the building regulations which reside provincially, we try to follow what is within those regulations.

1545
03:11:02,000 --> 03:11:11,000
I think locally we could accommodate any policy that this board desired to implement those, but it is the decision of this board.

1546
03:11:11,000 --> 03:11:13,000
Thank you for that.

1547
03:11:16,000 --> 03:11:21,000
Wow.

1548
03:11:21,000 --> 03:11:26,000
Miss Boyd.

1549
03:11:26,000 --> 03:11:27,000
Thank you chair.

1550
03:11:27,000 --> 03:11:32,000
I'm on closed session that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the community charter,

1551
03:11:32,000 --> 03:11:39,000
part four division three section 90 and the subsections are noted in accordance with each agenda item at 1223.

1552
03:11:39,000 --> 03:11:44,000
Motion to go in the closed move to seconded all in favor.

1553
03:11:44,000 --> 03:11:51,000
And I think we'll break for lunch prior to going into closed session.

1554
03:11:51,000 --> 03:11:59,000
Can we come back at 12, what time?

1555
03:11:59,000 --> 03:12:02,000
1, 10.

1556
03:12:02,000 --> 03:12:07,000
Mr. Chair, same link or will the new link be sent out?

1557
03:12:07,000 --> 03:12:08,000
New link?

1558
03:12:08,000 --> 03:12:11,000
No, this link.

1559
03:12:11,000 --> 03:12:13,000
Okay.

1560
03:12:13,000 --> 03:12:14,000
1, 10.

1561
03:12:43,000 --> 03:12:45,000
1, 10.

1562
03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:15,000
1, 10.

1563
03:13:43,000 --> 03:13:44,000
1, 10.

1564
03:13:44,000 --> 03:13:45,000
1, 10.