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all right I'll call the meeting back to
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EXC sorry about that folks we have a
little technical difficulties

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there my name is Ree Hamilton I will
chair the hearing

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all comments shall be directed through
me admin Administration will make the

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presentation first following by the
opportunity for Council to ask questions

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of
clarification the applicant will then

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make a presentation if they choose to do
so followed by the opportunity of

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council to ask questions of

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clarification Council will then hear for
those affected in persons in the

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audience first those who
support of the bylaw and then those of

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opposition of the
bylaw all presentations must

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be present
presenters must be registered with the

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planning department if you have not
already done

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so if you have if your presentation is
in written document including Maps

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photos and reports a copy of the those
documents must be left with the

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administration bylaw
20252 will admin

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Administration please proceed with the
presentation uh thank you through the

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chair I'm not sure that we had a motion
to open the public hearing reev Hamilton

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with our technical difficulties or did
we thank you thank you Michelle

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good morning and thank you through the
chair bylaw

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20252 is submitted by Monroe surveys on
behalf of Tim and Anna shner to rezone a

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vacant 6.5 acre parcel from agricultural
District 1 to Country residential

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limited District IDP if the land use
amendment is approved then the

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applicant's intent is to apply to the
municipal plan commission for approval

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to subdivide the parcel from the
remainder of the Agricultural title the

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existing title contains 65.4 6
Acres the land subject of the resoning

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is contained within the Southwest
quarter of section 22 Township 12 range

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6 West of the 4th and is located
approximately 2.2 km North of Highway 3

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and 280 M west of the jurisdictional
boundary of Cypress County and the City

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of medison hat the area situated to the
east of Range Road 63 and is capable of

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gaining direct and immediate access from
this established public

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road the remainder of the Agricultural
title will continue to utilize an

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existing private access Drive located
further to the north the

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reclassification area is vacant while
the remainder of the parcel contains

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established yard site and Irrigation
District um irrigation

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Acres the area subject of this
application does not contain irrigable

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acres and therefore is not anticipated
to be impact

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Ed the immediately surrounding lands are
designated agricultural land use under

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the County's land use bylaw and are
several established greenh houses

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located in the area with the nearest
being approximately 300 M to the north

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and there is also a nearby country
residential subdivision 1 and A4

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kilometers to the

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Southwest the applicant has submitted
the proposed lot layout to accommodate

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the subdivision density requirements of
the Tri Area intermunicipal development

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plan the proposal
provides for the least disruption to the

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irrigated Acres on the parcel the
surveyor has also produced a plan

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indicating an appropriate Development
Area which accommodates the minimum

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setbacks of the land use bylaw there are
no oil or gas wells in proximity to the

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proposed reclassification
area if the application were to be

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approved the reclassification and
subdivision would be the final title

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eligible to be subdivided under the
current potential growth area policies

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of the
IDP the cus scatch Regional plan states

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that municipalities are to identify
their agricultural lands and to limit

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fragmentation and conversion to
non-agricultural uses the efficient use

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of land policy states that the land use
framework promotes approaches to reduce

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the amount of land taken up by permanent
or long-term development by utilizing

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the minimum amount of land that is
necessary section 2.6 potential growth

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area of the Tri Area intermunicipal
development plan states that the county

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wishes to retain the rural nature of its
rate paays and believes that service

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residential development outside existing
Hamlet boundaries becomes costly and

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difficult to administer and
maintain the county has a limited

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capacity to provide an urban level of
water and sewer services to the area and

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its other hamlets the IDP recognizes
that it is in the interest of both the

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city and the county to retain large
parcel sizes for agricultural

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purposes under the potential growth area
policy section 2.6.2 it directs Council

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as follows
Agricultural and agricultural support

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uses within the potential growth area
are preferred uses other than

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agriculture or agricultural support
should not be allowed unless they're an

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existing use or the expansion of an
existing use Parcels located within the

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potential growth area may be considered
by the county for a land use bylaw

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Amendment and subdivision approval for
limited country

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residential the cumulative area of the
subdivision shall not exceed 10% of the

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original parcel to be subdivided as it
existed as prior to the adoption of the

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sidp and in order to be eligible for
further subdivision a parcel must be at

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least 40 acres in size and must not be
located on irrigated

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land section 4.1.2 4 subdivision IDP of
the Count's Municipal development plan

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states that the county shall follow all
applicable policies within the IDP

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relating to subdivision of lands within
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boundary at the time of writing this
report no comments were received from

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the town of redcliffe we did receive
comments from the med city of Medicine

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Hat uh just recently and they've
provided that they have no objection

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provided that the current potential
growth area policies are followed and

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Alberta transportation and economic
corridors is

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consulted at the time of writing in the
report no comments were received from

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any adjacent land
owners and due to the applications

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proximity to the Highway 3 Alberta
transportation and economic corridors is

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a required referral they replied that
the Department anticipates minimal

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impact on the highway from The Proposal
there is no proposed access to the

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highway and there is sufficient local
Road access to the subdivision and the

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adjacent lands a tech grants approval
for the subdivision authority to vary

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the requirements of section 18 and 19 of
the subdivision and development

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regulation Administration recommends
that Council move second and third

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readings for bylaw
20252 the proposed application for

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resoning complies with the efficient use
of land principles of the s skatan

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Regional plan section 2.6 potential
growth area policies of the

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intermunicipal development plan as well
as section 4.1.2 4 of the municipal

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development plan that concludes my
presentation thank you

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Ken are there any questions or
clarifications from Administration from

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Council
please yeah to the chair I just so that

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land to the North where like the green
hous is that's all zoned egg right now

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then through the chair all of the lands
contained to the north and it's shown on

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the um adjacent land use map everywhere
that you see highlighted and green is

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agriculturally districted and then
further to the southwest and blue is the

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country residential
districts Rob thank you through the

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chair um Ken with the parcel that
they're looking at or uh subdividing out

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with the setbacks that are required for
development does that give it actually

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enough space um to do a residential
subdivision with with the amount of it's

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long and narrow um just wondering if
there's enough room for the the setbacks

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that we would require for
that that's a great question through the

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chair we did have the surveyor plot out
um essentially a building envelope that

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accommodates um 6 M from both the side
and rear property lines as well as the

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40 m minimum setback from Range Road 63
there's adequate area um it's actually

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quite deceiving the the area north south
is 50 m um running north south which

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would allow about a 30 m uh distance for
actual development to be located in

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there any other

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questions not seeing
any does the applicant have any

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presentation

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okay does council have any questions for
the

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applicant not seeing
any I will now call for any particip

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participants for anyone in the support
of the proposed

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bylaw I will now call a second time for
participation for any support in the

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proposed

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bylaw I will now call a third
time for any participation in the

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proposed

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bylaw I will now call for any
presentations for anyone opposed to the

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proposed

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bylaw I'll call a second time for any
presentations for anyone opposing

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third and final time for anyone
proposing the proposed

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bylaw I now will call for any final
submissions for those who feel they have

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not had the opportunity to fully
participate in the public

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hearing the public hearing for bylaw
20252 is now concluded and no further

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submissions will be accepted
I will call for a motion to close the

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public
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Dustin at

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vote

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okay we are on
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motion for dun more Junction

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Dustin thank you Reeve um so I I brought
this forward uh just to more or less

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open discussion back up
um with the just one second here with

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regarding dun more Junction um I I did
receive quite a few calls on this

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between the period
of or last meeting December and then

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actually in the January of people asking
questions and more or less looking

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to see if there will be land available
to purchase out there and I said well we

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have to make that decision as Council
and I'll bring it back so that's

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essentially what this is and it was more
or less to get it rocken so it doesn't

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fall off the books and we can make a
decision one way or the

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other Mr members of council is this is a
land issue I would suggest that Council

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either to discuss strategy with the with
the sale or with the development of that

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land that Council either move into Clos
session at this point or leave it a Clos

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session later in the day
are you good to leave it till later okay

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we'll move this over till later in the
day when we go in close

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session all right we're on to

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who's that was I thought yeah no time
for coffee kayen

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sorry I did think that was going to go
longer in the discussion

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so through the chair applicant just had
a few questions so um bylaw

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20252 um is submitted by Tim and Anna
shner to reone a vacant 6.5 acre parcel

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the public hearing just occurred and the
recommendation is that Council move

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second and third readings of the
bylaw thank you

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you Richard's moving second anybody have
any questions or comments on

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it
Keith this this won't come anywhere

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close to the highway 320 or that's not
our concern is

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it no
because Alberta transportation is

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already okay it

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okay any other questions
not seeing

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any

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vote that's
carried somebody want to move

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third Blain's moving
third

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vote that's
carried okay we're on to 7.1.2

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thank you through the chair bylaw 20253
is submitted by Linda Weir to reone a56

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acre parcel from agricultural District 1
to Hamlet Industrial District the

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property is located along Charles Street
within the Hamlet of Dunmore and the

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recommendation is for Council to move
first reading of the bylaw with the

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public hearing to be set for February
19th thank you Ken Robin you're moving

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that do you you want to comment on it or
okay any

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comments

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vote it's
carried

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7.1.3 now you can have your coffee
kayen thank you

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through thank you through the chair um
we have the annual Fire Guard

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appointments RFD in front of you also
have fire chief Jason here to answer any

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questions or concerns regarding uh the
appointments um Administration is

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recommending the appointment of our fire
chief our Deputy fire chief as well as

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the um direct or the uh Duty Officers uh
to provide fire Guardian services within

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the county says a requirement of the
forest and protect prair protection act

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and an annual
Administration uh appointment

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thank you somebody want to move
that

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Lloyd
uh Les lean do you want to read off all

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of the names the council appoints Jason
Linton Matt O'Reilly Keith fiser Brady

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Panos Les durksen Jim fuss and Justin S
duraf as fire Guardians for a term of

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one year in accordance with the forest
and Prairie protection

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act Thank You Les
any questions on

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it

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vote that's carried

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7.1.4 thank you and through the chair uh
we have in front of you an item for a

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municipal bylaw officer appointment uh
we have our current uh officer uh

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retiring this week and in the inter term
we have hired on Jason shriber as our

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Municipal peace officer uh there are two
appointments required for him to enact

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full Powers the first is through um our
own bylaw officer

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bylaw um and while this is going on we
also have the uh provincial appointment

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that is through the
soulen so Administration is recommending

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the appointment of Jason triver as the
Cyprus County Municipal bylaw

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enforcement officer uh to take effect
when he completes the oath of office

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okay thank you
Dustin moving that any questions on

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it just a minor one um probably for the
r paers does the cell phone number

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change then or is it a new a new number
issued there will be a new phone number

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being issued um so we will have posting
and um some social media that'll go out

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um when the new peace officer
appointment comes through

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okay any other
questions

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vote okay that's
carried all right thank you

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Joel come on up

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Ken CH miss this
one favor Public

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Works uh new private dust
control thank you through the chair we

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prepared the uh new private DK control
program to move forward through um

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Administration is seeking council's
Direction on establishing a cost formula

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to determine the fee for new private
dust control application using calcium

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or similar dust suppressant
products um through Motion in 2024

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Council chose to uh transition from oil
to calcium for all new dust patches um

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starting in January 1st 2025 as part of
this transition Council requested

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Administration to develop a costing
formula for implementation of this

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plan little bit of background the use of
calcium and a similar death suppressant

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products such as
mg30 are used in real municipalities on

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gravel roads to reduce D or dust
counties and MDS that have historically

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used oil balc surfacing such as cold mix
have transitioned to the dust

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suppressant product due to the
increasingly High Cost of installation

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and overall maintenance costs of the oil
bound

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surfacing the new dust suppressant
product replacing the oil bound cold mix

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surfacing will not be subject to the
special tax for dust

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control as it is a one-time application
upon

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request application will be applications
will be accepted up until March 1st of

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each calendar year with a minimum of
three application required for the

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program to proceed for that
Year Legacy oil dust control patches

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installed before 2025 will continue to
be maintained by the county until

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further and Future phase out strategies
are presented to council for

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approval Administration has reviewed the
costs associated with supplying and

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applying the new dust suppressant
treatment in addition to consultation

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with neighboring
municipalities on various cost sharing

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strategies the approach to follow here
is the applicant would cover 65% of the

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costs representing the product cost only
the county covers

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35% representing the equipment and labor
expenses required to place the

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product followup actions after this
motion would be updating the 2025 Master

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rates bylaw and bringing back the dust
control policy with

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amendments reference to the Strategic
plan that that transition from oil bound

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surfacing coal mix to calcium along with
establishing a cost share model for all

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new dust control patches will align with
council's balanced Financial strategy

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objective of cost share recovery for
services and operational

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stabilization recommended motion that
Council direct Administration to prepare

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the master rates bylaw with update rates
established a cost sharing model for new

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private dust control application wherein
the applicant pays

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65% and the county contributes 25 or 35%
of the total

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cost I prepared a a few other options
for council's consideration the second

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one would be that Council direct
Administration to prepare the master

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rates bylaw with update rates establish
a cost sharing model for new private

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dust control applications
within that the application

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covers an amount determined by Council
of the total cost and the county

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contributes a percentage that Council
would

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decide the third option that Council
direct Administration to prepare the

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master rates bylaw with updated rates
establishing full cost recovery for new

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private dust control application wherein
the applicant covers 100% of the cost of

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installation fourth option that Council
direct Administration to bring back

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alternative cost sharing models for new
private desk control applications to a

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future

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meeting any
questions thank you

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Dustin can I ask a question or can I
make do I have to make a motion

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first make a motion okay I'll move
number

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three um and then my question would also
be on that what is the plan on

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continuation onr maintenance with them
what would the cost share fund is that

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going to be the same cost your funding
model or is it going to be different

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from the

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original through the chair the the
existing oil that's down as mentioned in

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here it will continue to maintain it at
the County's costs and in the future

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we'll look at implementing phase out
strategies as as where if the dust dust

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um suppressant
product requires full uh

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Rehabilitation then we can look at in
the future of removing that or cost

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going to the applicant to re redo it
again so redo it to with a new product

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so once it gets passed to a certain
point then we would look at you know not

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providing the oil again so that's not
part of this motion that's what I'm

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asking though on the on the new product
when it needs to be reapplied what how's

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what's the CER model there is it they
going to be the same as the original or

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is it going to be a shared yeah through
the chair it will be the same

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formula so I guess maybe I'll change my
motion then a little bit so I would like

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I like the idea of the initial cost
being 100% on the on the rate pair but

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then a reapplication be a 50

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split okay as a motion should we look
and see how long that's going to last

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well if we look at any of our mg roads
it's so far we see that what three to

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five year mark sort of
thing

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y through the chair yeah as far as the
dust suppress a product it it ranges it

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depends on the amount of traffic the
high use roads it could be the next year

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needs to to be reapplied could be 2
years could be 3 years so it's not

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guarantee we don't guarantee it for any
length of time it's proven to last a

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good six months through the dusty season
but we'll continue on if there's limited

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traffic on the road because essentially
right now we're charging what is an

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annual maintenance fee on dust control
475 475 yeah through the M through the

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chair the master rates is 475 for this
year and increases to

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$25 in
2026 through that was through a council

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motion so that really doesn't really
cover the cost of Maintenance the

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maintenance cost on average ranges from
6,000 to 7,000 for rip and replace so

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that's probably about 15 years you'd
have to pay that off the initial one as

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we knowe um costs if you want new dust
de batment would be about 25 to

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27,000 so it take 50 years for that to
pay so that you know that I think that's

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why we're here to so with uh with a new
application being 22 or

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2,250 with mg what would a reapplication
cost be the

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same right now it's the same I I suggest
or recommend uh evaluation over the year

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to see if the product is the samec
application rate so as far as um maybe

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it's the third time maybe the liters per
square meter can be reduced so there

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could be some cost saving there um I
think that's probably we'll get some

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good data on the first year to make that
change so I I guess

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essentially what my question for Council
would be then I I like the idea of it

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getting paid for completely upfront but
where is our comfortability on that

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maintenance aspect is it 100% on the
rate pair every year or is that a split

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that we

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do would the through the chair um would
if the county takes over half and half

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like after for this second re putting it
on is that affordable like can we if if

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we do that are we going in the hole that
way

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through the chair uh no um It's very
coste effective to to do that split um

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we did factor that in our 2025 budget
just for maintenance for uh throughout

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the year um but as far as um the
maintenance cost or the reapplication

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the whole process is the same no matter
what same equipment same product maybe

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the time that the product goes down it's
just the volume of the

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product Rob and you heads
up yeah thank you Ken through the chair

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the the annual maintenance fee um it
seems if if the reapplication is say

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that $1,500 and it could last for three
years it seems like the maintenance fee

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itself could almost stay the same and
just we change the standard and the

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product that we use I'm I'm okay I I
suppose with the uh the covering the

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cost UPF front um but part of me also
wonders if you know if we just set up

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that annual you sign up for the program
this is what you're going to be paying

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um you know 600 $500 a year whatever
that looks like um you know it's

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affordable people can get into it we're
just changing the standard that is

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something that's easier to maintain and
it's easier to swallow and what we're

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charging actually covers off what we've
got I'm kind kind kind of curious if

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there's any interest in

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that
Richard two questions first one is what

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kind of
preparation is being done before this is

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applied thank you through the chair um
the road will be inspected and uh the

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assessment of the gravel surfacing will
be uh looked at the additional gravel

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will be placed prior um to a certain
rate and then there will be a mixing

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process if we're talking about prior to
the product being applied there's a

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water truck that needs to be there for
that application too and then it gets

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worked in the top four to six inches and
then packed down

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okay um what was my other
question I I guess for discussion I have

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a tough time um having the applicant pay
the total bill when I think about it

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um uh it
it we're going to do some grading anyway

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we're going to put some gravel down in
most cases because we're up we keep our

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roads in great shape so I have more of
the opinion that the

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applicant pays for the product and we
look after the equipment and the labor

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expenses that also kind of softens the
blow a bit uh because I look at what

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we're doing with people that have the
oil portion portions by their Road and

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um we're we're definitely helping them
out uh the other part is that we

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encourage any new development to be on a
dry Corner which is always close to a

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road we we encourage them to be have
easy access onto a road so um we're

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placing we're we're asking them to place
their houses or

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buildings in a in an area that
um will get dust it's just part of it

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and uh not everybody can be back a few
hundred yards from the from the road I

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know DUS in your your backways but other
people on the dry garders aren't always

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that lucky so I I just feel that we need
to pick up part of the tab and um the

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equipment parts um I feel should be

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ours Destin so I I'm okay with picking
up some of the tab but I I kind of

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propose it a little bit of a different
way so I I I think what we should be

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doing is that 2250 up front to get it
initially installed and then after that

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we do it on a 5050 Coster so we
essentially go off the premises that

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it's going to last for three years and
uh then so essentially you break that

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down it's going to be
$750 uh cost per year for that so we

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split that in half and 375 is what the
rate payer would pay as a maintenance Fe

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a year after ongoing afterwards and that
would essentially in three years time

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pay 50% of that

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reapplication thank you Mr members of
the council just for clarification the

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byla doesn't speak the 475 a year being
for maintenance it's for the initial

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placement of the dust control there the
B doesn't use the words maintenance it

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uses the words placement of dust control

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product thank you Mr re through the
chair to our our new leader um can you

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would you are you suggesting then that
it it states that it's for placement of

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and that maintenance has been simply
implied or assumed because we haven't as

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maintenance occurs I don't believe that
there has been any kind of new fee or

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anything like that in my
experience through the chair the uh the

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byw actually reads uh uh and whereas the
cost or portion of the cost should be

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collected by way of a special tax that's
as per the MGA and whereas the cost of

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placing dust treatment on roads adjacent
to parcel of land benefiting there from

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is included in the annual budget and
estimated be it when the bylaw was

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passed it at almost
$600,000 so the byla itself reads it

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it's for placement um and my
interpretation of that would be that the

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the um with the tax R that's attached to
it that $475 a year is to recover the

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the cost of the placement of the desk
control and maintenance is a separate

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issue I'm not suggesting for a moment
that Council couldn't have a maintenance

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fee or shouldn't have a maintenance fee
but I we're talking about maintenance

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with the bylaw when in actual fact the
bylaw is about placement not about

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maintenance so then if we go the way DUS
and say we need to have another bylaw

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that say says it's a maintenance well
either another bylaw or we need to amend

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the bylaw CU I think what you're saying
too is that

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regardless of what we do with the mg30
and the calcium that ambiguity exists

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still with the existing bylaw that we
have through the chair um yes and no uh

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for example with the new dust control
product that uh Mr Lucas is talking

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about is or sorry Mr Jacobs is talking
about um uh I don't know where that came

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from
um the uh uh that can just be I believe

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that can just be handled through policy
because you're going to pay upfront to

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get your dust control you get your mg30
or calcium Chlor whatever it is you're

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going to pay up front um U part of the
issue with the oil dust control that's

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expensive is we were essentially um
helping offset that cost over multiple

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years and if you didn't have it through
bylaw then it would be impossible to put

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back on somebody's taxes if they refused
to pay uh but on a product just md30 or

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calcium chloride that you're going to
have them pay up front uh then you could

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just have an annual maintenance fee
attached through a policy so it would

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the bot itself would not need to change
in that regard now if you want to call

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maintenance uh or placement I I'll leave
that to council to determine if you're

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happy with what's currently there uh but
on the new product I think that's easily

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handled just through policy I had a a a
quick whisper with the um with Mr Daves

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and he agrees that that could be just
through through the policy

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yeah we don't want to touch that 475
because that's actually piding for that

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$30,000 placement that we put in UNC for
all those years we need that to stay

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there I I think that um when I brought
that up and and perhaps with Dustin as

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well we keep on bringing in how it's
been but that's not what we're talking

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about currently we're definitely talking
about the new product that we have

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moving forward and and the reason why
kind of brought it up is it makes it

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does make it more affordable than having
a $3,000 bill for somebody who wants to

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put the material in I suppose we can
kind of gauge that with our residents to

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see whether that's something that is
going to be um palatable or or not it's

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certainly a big change going from 475 a
year for strip to you know yes it's a

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one-time fee up front but for some that
that might be a tougher pill uh to

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swallow um but that's that's why I kind
of brought it up as a gives them a

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little bit of a the ility to eat it in
chunks but I also understand what we're

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talking about with The Upfront
part Mr Jacobs through the chair um as

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far as maintenance maintenance is pretty
much limited to smoothing out it's it

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takes less grading because it's holding
the material in a little bit better it's

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stabilizing it um so as far as the
maintenance cost would be tricky to kind

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of gauge a value there um with that
product also there is a bit of a cost sa

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saving too with it locks in the gravel a
bit more so um 40% more that's on the

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ter so for gravel loss so as far as
maintenance I mean greater go by that

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road anyways so there there really
wouldn't be an ongoing maintenance

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application I still see the maintenance
portion as like if you take a 10e you're

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not on sorry if you take a 10year cycle
you might reapply two or three times you

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amiz that divided by 10 gives you an
annual cost to to keep that you know

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applied in decent shape something like
that that's where my mindset was at with

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it I I I agree with you it's not like
it's we're sending a truck out

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specifically to grade it because we are
going over

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it yep in yeah initially it's um set up
as a one-time application and then when

435
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,839
the product when it gets a little more
Dusty after a year or two then they

436
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:35,200
would reapply that's typically with the
other municip ality is how it

437
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:40,000
stands uh bla yeah to the chair so just
to back this up and so I can understand

438
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:46,280
it better what we're talking about right
now is the application here whether it's

439
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:52,640
65 75 100 whatever but the 470 wouldn't
the 475 maintenance fee still be

440
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:57,960
applied to the tax roll yearly or is
this going to be a separate thing or

441
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:02,040
that's the oil less
thank you through the

442
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:06,359
chair I think in my opinion what how
Council maybe needs to look at this is

443
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:11,400
that it's two separate items so you have
your legacy dust control which is your

444
00:39:08,839 --> 00:39:15,839
oil service and now council's directed
Administration to come back with um

445
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:21,160
we're going to use this new product
right we're transitioning away from the

446
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:24,640
the oil dust control so I think you have
to kind of look at them as as two

447
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,640
separate products right does
Administration need to bring back a

448
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:33,040
recommendation to council how we're
going to phase out those dust control

449
00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:39,319
strips um in the future but but we have
to kind of look at it as two separate uh

450
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:45,200
programs yeah that's what I kind of said
there because that that oiled one was a

451
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:49,680
$30,000 cost to put that in and that 475
is to recuperate that original that

452
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:52,760
isn't even a maintenance fee in there
that's just to recuperate the first

453
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,000
laying of
it so we got to keep that out of our

454
00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:02,040
minds and then we got to think about
this proposal in front of

455
00:39:58,839 --> 00:40:07,680
us which I have on the floor still at
100% or what 100% just for this but

456
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,920
we're not discussing maintenance fee on
this this is just the

457
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:18,560
application
so we're voting on The applic or on this

458
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:22,599
right now should we bring this back in a
year or two and see how it's holding up

459
00:40:20,359 --> 00:40:28,599
and then we can look at we can't predict
maybe this stuff's going to last five

460
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:36,000
years and we or a year from
now Robin thank you um councelor vosler

461
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:41,000
could I could I potentially um sell you
on a friendly amendment to doing the the

462
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,920
the cost share and here's why I'm kind
of hung up on it I just mentioned to

463
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:50,560
councelor Ritz the the fact that it's
based on traffic and all that different

464
00:40:48,319 --> 00:40:55,720
stuff as well and there is that you know
40% savings and and gravel loss and

465
00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:00,800
things like that there are some benefits
to the county and I see if we're if

466
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:05,000
we're charging The Upfront to the
resident but you have a busy road where

467
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:10,520
other people are utilizing that busy
road they're wearing that road out

468
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:15,280
quicker I I see I see there being some
value to the county contributing a bit

469
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:18,560
on the up front part on that as well um
you know yes they still choose to live

470
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:22,119
on a busy road but if they're paying
Upfront for the material they may be

471
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:27,440
doing it quite a lot more frequently and
if there is an upside to us and it

472
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:34,280
simplifies our process I would would you
accept it as a as a friendly amendment

473
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:42,119
to your 100% there a middle ground
there the the reason I went the 100%

474
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:45,760
rout is because I feel that it's one of
those things if you everyone's got to

475
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:49,960
pay their little bit of a piece of a pie
to get something you know we we've been

476
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:58,119
giving a lot away for a lot of years and
it's it's time to stop it it really is

477
00:41:53,800 --> 00:42:03,160
so you know I don't look at 2200 $50
being an unreasonable ask to take and

478
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:07,040
get dust control put in front of your
property and then that's where I had

479
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:12,240
that conversation about the maintenance
being shared after the fact and that way

480
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:18,560
it just essentially a flat maintenance
fee right whether that's 375 475 575 a

481
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:26,200
year and that's just what you pay from
there on out I I feel it's a it's a

482
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:31,119
fairer approach that way to having that
product being done at some sort of a a

483
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:34,920
discounted cost in front of your
property because not everybody gets it

484
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,680
and not everybody's going to pay for it
you know it with the existing dust

485
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,079
control it's a everybody who had that
had a really good deal for a lot of

486
00:42:40,359 --> 00:42:47,440
years that was a really really really
good deal but we're done with it we we

487
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:52,559
can't afford to play that game anymore
so I think going forward we should

488
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,520
probably just hit the nail on the head
right off the start and say you know

489
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,000
this is what the initial cost is and
this and this is the maintenance every

490
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:06,240
year going forward and uh and be done
with it and that and you know it gives

491
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:11,920
us pretty much uh it gives us a full
cost recovery off the start and then 50%

492
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:16,119
is going forward and you know some are
going to last longer than others and you

493
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:21,160
know hopefully they all offset each
other that that's that's the way I'm

494
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:25,599
looking at it okay so there's no
friendly there your motion right now is

495
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:30,720
100% up front and
50% or do you want want to hold off and

496
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:35,720
review it for one year and I I I
honestly think we we could take and put

497
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:40,400
the 50% in off the start and we and
let's just make it that we review it in

498
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:44,000
the year okay because then then there's
at least something on paper and if it's

499
00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:48,880
none of us sitting at this table in a
year's time at least they know what we

500
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:53,839
were thinking okay so before I let you
go I just want to make sure we have the

501
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:58,119
motion right on what Dustin saying so
you're saying

502
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:04,240
100% up front
pay him for it and

503
00:44:01,319 --> 00:44:08,640
50% so so just we'll put a dollar figure
on instead of 50% just put a dollar

504
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:13,400
figure of uh 375 and that'll work out to
50% over a threeyear time period if it

505
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:18,240
lasts three years yeah
okay and to be reviewed in one year to

506
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:21,960
see how it's Lo holding up just and
it'll give us then we have a metric to

507
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,960
work on in the following
year yep

508
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:35,839
okay someone will be here to
remember okay so that's the motion Les

509
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:42,960
are you clear on that no I'm not I'm not
clear so is the 50%

510
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:47,040
for um for maintenance or I I'm unclear
okay hold on whe whether the word is

511
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:51,599
maintenance whether the word is
continuing care I don't really care what

512
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,319
it is it's whatever works out the best
in your guys's

513
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:59,680
wording m m Mr reev I would suggest two
motions uh one uh one one would be uh

514
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:04,559
the recommended action of number three
as per councilor vosler and then a

515
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:08,839
separate motion discussing the uh the
maintenance the maintenance recovery

516
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,559
over whether the three-year period I was
just I I think that's part of the

517
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:16,480
confusion right now is I think two
motions that'll keep it cleanest okay

518
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:22,040
okay so the motion I have under the
floor right now is for 100% cost

519
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:27,359
recovery off to start okay everybody's
clear on that

520
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,960
yeah okay you have a question on it yeah
what what I'm concerned about though is

521
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:36,480
that if they're they need to be tied
together somehow um because otherwise

522
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:40,040
we're saying it's going to be 2250 for a
strip and if it's going to wear out in a

523
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:45,079
year a year and a half we may have
people that are paying $1,500 a year

524
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:50,319
$2,000 a year on a busy
road for potentially no we won't because

525
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:55,839
well we assuming that hold on it's the
initial costing yeah so the initial cost

526
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:59,440
is $2,250 I agree but you're assuming
that the next motion's going to pass

527
00:45:57,319 --> 00:46:02,880
well if it doesn't if it doesn't pass
then I guess they pay that every year

528
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:08,480
that's still pass them both and then
it'll be fine yeah okay so the motion I

529
00:46:06,359 --> 00:46:13,640
have on the floor right now is for 100%
cost recovery there no maintenance in it

530
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:20,599
that's what the motion is everybody's
clear on

531
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,599
that does anybody want to talk on that

532
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:30,359
motion Keith so I'm just going to get
back to what Richard was saying

533
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:38,319
if we put this product
down will there

534
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:42,760
be any cost savings to the county
because we have put a doubt because if

535
00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:48,640
we're expecting the landowner to pay for
it all that we're making the

536
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:53,359
savings that tend to kind of waffle a
little bit on that then but I don't know

537
00:46:51,200 --> 00:47:00,400
what that savings would
be maybe you could help me out on that

538
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:03,800
what that savings would be if in that
first

539
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:08,640
year through the chair um if we're
looking at probably 40% gravel reduction

540
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:14,480
uh
loss

541
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:19,960
um and probably 50% of the grading
required on that on the

542
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:26,160
surface um
probably $50 to

543
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:34,640
$100 yeah that's so not it's it's fairly
negligible for the short short patch so

544
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:34,640
would be pretty minimal then yeah okay

545
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:48,480
no no you you can speak Michelle you had
something I I am a little confused about

546
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:53,599
this is so if we make it so that the
rate pairs pay the 100% is the special

547
00:47:51,920 --> 00:48:01,319
tax still on there that they're still
paying $475 a year no that's that's

548
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:04,119
nothing to do with this one two
completely different

549
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:16,160
things any other questions or comments
yes one more comment I I will be voting

550
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:24,160
no against 100% And it's because I don't
feel that we're being fair to the rate

551
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:28,400
pairs uh council could pass uh another
Greenhouse development uh it could be uh

552
00:48:26,839 --> 00:48:34,480
there could be another hutterite Colony
going in there uh my neighbor could now

553
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:40,800
go from dry land to irrigation and all
of a sudden the yield is gone up 1,000%

554
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:47,640
which increases all the traffic or or
the amount of traffic going by me big

555
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:54,480
time so um you're penalizing the r PA
with the with the full cost because the

556
00:48:50,040 --> 00:49:01,920
traffic is increased I I feel that um we
need to be fair with the rate pairer and

557
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:07,520
yeah you want you want some product
we'll put it down but we will look after

558
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,520
the rest of it

559
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:17,880
so okay so the comment on that one
Richard is this is just for the laying

560
00:49:14,359 --> 00:49:22,799
of the initial cost of it if we get to
the next step where we're sharing a

561
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:27,880
portion okay then what you're saying is
covered in that

562
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:32,960
so it's you got to think of it two
different motions there yeah and my

563
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:37,680
first yeah but my my thoughts are the
way it was first presented at

564
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:45,960
6535 is what
I like BL yeah that's I just wanted to

565
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:51,720
clarify that too because my concern is
the 100% you know 2250 if it has to get

566
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:55,480
maintained and to redone again in a year
or even if it's two years then the ray

567
00:49:54,079 --> 00:50:00,079
is going to be on the hook for half of
it according to

568
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:06,400
the rest of D in motion am I
right so he's going to be paying

569
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:11,880
$3,000 in two years
then essentially what I'm proposing here

570
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:16,839
and this first motion has to go at 100%
to do that because I want them to pay a

571
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:22,960
100% to the initial UPF front the second
motion I want to do is I want to do a

572
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:28,599
50% on a three-year replacement so it's
$375 per year is what that would work

573
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:33,599
out to where do you you come up at $375
so if you take $2,250 you divide it by

574
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:37,280
three years that's $750 divide it by two
that's $375 what what if it gets needs

575
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,960
to be redone the next year we're
averaging it out on a three-year term

576
00:50:38,799 --> 00:50:44,520
and that's where it's I we put it Market
as that and then we revisit it in that

577
00:50:42,839 --> 00:50:50,839
year's time if they're holding up we
leave it alone if we don't if it's not

578
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:56,920
we revisit it Mr Jacobs yeah I struggle
with the um the threeyear or specifying

579
00:50:54,160 --> 00:51:02,520
a period of time on the product not
knowing the um how effective it

580
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:12,839
is
um initially um having it as a one-time

581
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:19,000
application at 100% okay and if it lasts
one or two years I need to reapply it

582
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:24,920
perhaps a like a for the second
application third or any down the road

583
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:31,920
it's a cost share in that strategy like
a 50/50 or because it likely will lose

584
00:51:28,839 --> 00:51:36,400
or use less but that but the problem
with doing it that way is is on the busy

585
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:40,240
roads it's going to cost that person a
lot more and on the on the non- busy

586
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,839
roads it's going to cost that person a
whole lot less doing it this way takes

587
00:51:42,359 --> 00:51:48,359
and shares those two together so
everybody pays kind of an equal portion

588
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:51,880
of it that's what I'm getting at it's
essentially the same kind of thing as

589
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:55,839
what dust control is how we have that
yearly fee that 475

590
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:05,480
okay we got uh I'm not going to call a
question yet we're discussing so I'm

591
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,200
going to table this because we have
delegations here and we'll get back to

592
00:52:07,839 --> 00:52:13,680
this after the
delegations that way Mr Hawk will get a

593
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:19,119
chance to see what we're talking about
because he just came in from his

594
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:23,960
doctor's appointment so table it we'll
take a fem minute

595
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:27,160
break I apologize I was talking out loud
so that's okay M Mr ree could we

596
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,520
actually have have somebody make the
tabling

597
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:36,839
motion yeah yeah Richards thank you
making that

598
00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:36,839
motion

599
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:46,119
vote you guys vote over there I don't
know if anybody heard yeah I seen

600
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:51,240
Robin's vote was yes it's carried sorry
about that okay let's take five minutes

601
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:23,000
sorry all right guys we'll get everybody
back in their positions

602
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,760
Ken can you grab that door thank

603
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:44,920
you all right call the meeting back to
order we have our a few minutes late

604
00:53:41,319 --> 00:53:49,760
here but our 11 o' delegation is
here I'll give the floor to you all

605
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,920
right thank you very much uh reev and
Council for allowing us to come back and

606
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:58,200
visit you again regarding the Southern
Regional storm water drainage committee

607
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:02,240
um I am Merl Harris a counselor with the
municipal District of

608
00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:09,640
Taber I'm Gary
France just a local farmer west of

609
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:15,079
here there you go uh Gary France a local
farmer just west of here uh I was past

610
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:22,720
chair of St Mary's River Irrigation
District and uh um co-chair of of the

611
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:27,559
committee here arlis Croft CAO with the
municipal District of

612
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:31,400
tabber okay well as I said we'd like
we're grateful for the opportunity to be

613
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:34,200
back to visit with you and to um bring
you up to speed as to what's been

614
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:39,960
happening with the drainage
committee this committee was sort of

615
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:46,559
loosely formed uh back in about 2013
after numerous uh uh severe flooding

616
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:51,079
events that occurred in 2010 2011 2013
14 and 18 18 and these some of these

617
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:55,160
storms uh have created a lot of
significant damage to crop land

618
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:59,200
infrastructure and personal
residences the Regional drainage

619
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:04,559
committee was formed to study the area
and if you can move to the map I think

620
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:09,760
it's one more down uh to study the area
and develop solutions to the ever

621
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:15,280
increasing storm water no not that map
um the one that's uh just custom that

622
00:55:13,319 --> 00:55:20,319
one right there so this is the area that
was studied the uh the provincial

623
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:25,839
government gave us a grant to to do a
regional uh drainage study so as you'll

624
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:33,200
see on the map there it starts all the
way down south of um McGrath uh Alberta

625
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:38,359
extends up through the uh east side of
Lethbridge and all the all the region

626
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:43,559
from basically East albri to the city of
Madison hat this area was studied and

627
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:48,920
numerous projects were identified that
would help uh alleviate drainage uh

628
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:57,119
issues throughout the
region um prior to the formation of this

629
00:55:53,240 --> 00:56:00,720
uh uh committee and prior to to the
beginning of the horsefly Spillway

630
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:05,680
project there was only one place along
that whole um smri main Canal that water

631
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:10,079
could be taken out of the out of the
canal and dumped back into the river

632
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:13,079
system so that more more drainage water
could be added into the into the

633
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:19,319
irrigation
infrastructure and um during some after

634
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:23,520
some of these major storm events uh like
you know

635
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:27,640
the farmers and land owners want to get
their the water off their land as

636
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:33,280
quickly as they could and smri 's main
Canal was the vehicle that everybody

637
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:38,799
wanted to use to uh get this water off
of their land and so we've been working

638
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:43,440
with smri uh from the beginning to work
with them to use their infrastructure to

639
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:47,200
to find ways of getting uh drainage
water off the land and back into the

640
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:51,960
river
system so there were seven projects

641
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:58,760
identified in this
study um back in 2014 and roughly 668

642
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:04,359
Million worth of projects and upgrades
to the smri main Canal system to to

643
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:08,520
alleviate drainage or to help uh get the
drainage issue the the flooding issues

644
00:57:06,839 --> 00:57:13,119
off of the land and into the into the
horse into the um smri main canal and

645
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:17,520
the first of those projects was the
horsefly Regional Emergency

646
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:21,440
Spillway the second is the Sherburn
Spillway in Reservoir expansion and

647
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Sherburn is uh if you don't know is
south of The Grassy Lake

648
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:30,960
area and then the third project was MRI
main Canal drain Inlet pump stations and

649
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:35,079
you see the little circles with P along
the the canal that's what those projects

650
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:40,680
are and it's basically if you want to
call it hotspots that simply setting up

651
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:44,960
a pump and uh you could by setting up a
pump there you can get the water off the

652
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:50,440
land and into the smri main
Canal four is uh chin Reservoir

653
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:58,160
expansion and you chin is a big lake
south of tabber south of Barnwell area

654
00:57:53,400 --> 00:58:04,880
it's big lake uh reservoir on the SMR
uh system the solder Reservoir Spillway

655
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:08,920
which is just west of medison hat here
Murray Reservoir expansion which is I'm

656
00:58:07,319 --> 00:58:14,720
sure you're all aware of that one which
is south and west of medicon hat and

657
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:18,000
then the Paradise Creek dry Dam and uh
those are the the projects were

658
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:24,079
identified in this uh study that was
done that would help uh with mitigating

659
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:28,760
the flooding effects that happen and
there's been uh flooding um

660
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:33,039
in this region there's been flooding in
the leftridge region we've in the MD of

661
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:37,119
tab have had certain events that have
caused a lot of Overland flooding and

662
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:43,359
and these projects were all identified
to help throughout the whole region deal

663
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,359
with uh flooding

664
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:51,640
issues so if you go to the next one
economic

665
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:55,400
factors irrigation is the largest
industry in southern Al Southern Alberta

666
00:58:53,640 --> 00:59:00,760
and several Industries either directly
or indirectly benefit from the success

667
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:05,480
of irrigation the smri main Canal uh
serves about a half a million Acres of

668
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:12,280
irrigated Farmland in Southern Alberta
and the water as you probably are aware

669
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:18,319
is uh comes up out of the states and uh
is um held in numerous reservoirs

670
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:23,920
between here and between the headwaters
and down here in medison hat

671
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:27,160
area the irrigation enables Farmland to
produce high value specially crops that

672
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:32,039
support the food processing and
livestock industry in Alberta without uh

673
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:36,920
irrigation water Southern Alberta is
pretty dry and Dryland crops would be

674
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:40,200
the only uh crops that you'd be able to
grow here grains and oil seeds and those

675
00:59:38,839 --> 00:59:45,720
sort of things the fact that we're able
to have irrigation has developed both

676
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:51,440
the livestock industry and special crops
Industries in in our area um sugar beets

677
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:58,640
being one of the first that were brought
into the area and that as a as a result

678
00:59:54,799 --> 01:00:04,799
of uh water being available for for Crop
Production since then uh lots of other

679
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:08,760
specialy crops hybrid canola potatoes uh
onions you you can go on and name it and

680
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:15,000
there's lots of crops that are grown in
this area and in the region because of

681
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:18,640
irrigation the AGA food processing
centers rely on crops grown between the

682
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:24,200
Lethbridge and Medicine Hat Corridor so
all these companies whether it's

683
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:29,880
Atlantic sugar um Cavendish farms for
potatoes B BAS and numerous uh hybrid

684
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:35,520
canola companies they all came to the
Southern Alberta as a result of water

685
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:39,240
and the security of water knowing that
year after year their producers would

686
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:43,760
have enough water to be able to grow the
crops that they could produce the

687
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:49,520
produce the or process the crops that
they they process if we didn't have that

688
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:53,359
water and the security of the water it
would be a different landscape here in

689
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:58,039
Southern Alberta for
sure some of the notable ones that we've

690
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:03,839
I've just mentioned McCain's Foods
Cavendish Farm lamb Weston they all

691
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:10,440
process potatoes host is frolle uh again
potatoes and corn products Roger sugar

692
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:14,880
Cana Foods bondwell it's not bondwell
any longer it's called norter but frozen

693
01:01:12,359 --> 01:01:18,839
vegetables Maple Lea Maple Leaf Foods
hog hog processing and sunrise poultry

694
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:24,640
chicken processing and then Beef
Processing and uh on top of the Beef

695
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:30,799
Processing is the the feed Lots again
require water water for their animals

696
01:01:28,359 --> 01:01:37,760
and water for the crops that they grow
to to feed to their

697
01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:42,599
animals so the risk is if a major storm
event uh happened and we didn't have

698
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:48,280
ways of dealing with all the the the
flood waters could result in the the

699
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:52,680
loss or the breaking of the smri main
Canal which which cut off the

700
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:57,079
availability of water both to irrigate
land and to process the the crops that

701
01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:01,400
are grown on the irrigated
land failure of the canal would impact

702
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:05,119
Farmers food processors and several
industries that are secondary or

703
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:09,279
tertiary or farming and food processing
in the lathbridge of medicon hat

704
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:14,200
Corridor failure of the canal would
create losses to the Alberta economy in

705
01:02:11,319 --> 01:02:20,079
2021 Lethbridge County itself estimated
the agriculture sector within the region

706
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:25,960
contributed $3.7 billion to the economy
and that's and that's huge for Southern

707
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:30,559
Alberta it's a lot of uh Pro a lot of uh
Agriculture and

708
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:36,240
processing um cont contributions to the
economy our region wouldn't be what it

709
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:39,839
what it is today without agricultural
without the agricultur industry and the

710
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:43,599
availability of water to grow these
specialty

711
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:47,720
crops failure of the canal also
increases a risk of losing poble water

712
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:53,200
to many of the areas in the region most
of the communities between Lethbridge

713
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:58,559
and down here in Medicine Hat rely on uh
that smri as their Canal as their source

714
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:01,160
of raw water for their pable for their
water treatment

715
01:03:05,279 --> 01:03:14,440
plants so the status of the projects um
the reservoir solder Reservoir Spillway

716
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:17,559
uh SMR took that one on by itself they
upgraded and Gary can probably tell you

717
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:22,400
better than I did what exactly they did
but they upgraded or replaced the

718
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:26,520
spillway uh that would drain water out
of the canal and put it puts it back

719
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:32,000
into the sou Saskatchewan River
chin Reservoir expansion smri is also

720
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:36,200
taking that project on as a part of the
irrigation Expansion Project that the

721
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:41,119
government of Alberta is
encouraging uh this is a huge project uh

722
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:46,240
they'll be adding about five miles to
the length of the uh uh Reservoir as

723
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:51,359
well as raising the level of the
reservoir and I'm not sure how many acre

724
01:03:47,799 --> 01:03:58,400
feet that actually works out to but
um the smri has taken that uh project on

725
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:02,160
all so and they're doing again through
government funding and different sources

726
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:09,000
they're able to get that project
done in December of 2022 the first the

727
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:14,119
phase one of the horsefly Regional
Emergency

728
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:18,720
Spillway was started and that project
comes out of Taber Lake and dumps uh

729
01:04:16,279 --> 01:04:25,480
water in an emergency back down into the
Old Man River phase two of that project

730
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:29,400
transfers water between uh the horsefly
res resir which is south of tabber and

731
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:33,359
Taber Lake which is right at tabber and
phase three of the project which got

732
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:39,440
underway this past
fall can take about half of the water

733
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:43,599
out of the smri smri main canal and
divert it through horsefly Lake through

734
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:47,480
Taber Lake and dumps the water can dump
the water back into the Old Man River

735
01:04:45,799 --> 01:04:55,200
and what that does for everybody
Downstream of uh this turnout at

736
01:04:51,799 --> 01:04:58,920
horsefly the the canal is then about if
it was running right full it would take

737
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:03,079
half the water out of the main out of
the canal and that leaves half the water

738
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:09,240
half the Canal's availability to pick up
drainage water further east of of that

739
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:14,599
turnout which is about five six miles
south of tabber so anywhere anybody east

740
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:20,039
of that turnout then has the canal can
has more capacity to be able to take

741
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:25,720
drainage water off of the land and um
put it into the canal for conveyance

742
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:29,119
further down the project um and into
some of these other reservoirs right and

743
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:36,920
this would have been very helpful in the
floods of uh 2018 when we had um we had

744
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:43,160
hired 40 some excavators and we're
trying to bail out the snow in the

745
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:51,599
canals um uh from 40 Mile Dam down to
solder uh to get to our our our um

746
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:56,839
solder Dam um solder Spillway that would
have been able to take the water to the

747
01:05:53,839 --> 01:06:03,200
river um we were were very close we we
did have some breaches um of that Canal

748
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:09,279
that time but had that Canal washed out
um in that stretch between Tab and and

749
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:13,920
40 mile that means everything down from
that would have been could have gone

750
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:19,400
through the summer um without the water
needed to start crops until we got that

751
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:24,920
repaired and up and running so a lot of
times when when those type of events

752
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:30,680
happen it's not just below that event
but also up up from it so we wouldn't

753
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:35,240
have been able to operate probably from
um chin Dam down because there you

754
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:41,400
couldn't regulate that flow in that
Canal so that's the kind of event that

755
01:06:38,279 --> 01:06:48,279
that this is going to help uh prevent
and uh protect our infrastructure um so

756
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:48,279
that we have that water security we

757
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:55,960
need okay so the next one on the uh
project on the list is Sherburn Sherburn

758
01:06:53,839 --> 01:07:00,680
Spillway and Reservoir expansion again
expanding the Sherburn Reservoir which

759
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:05,279
is south of gry lake so that it could
hold more water in the event of a of a

760
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:09,359
flood more water could be diverted in
there uh we've talked about the main

761
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:15,599
Canal drain Inlet pumping stations those
are the little peas um circled peas

762
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:20,319
along the along the uh main Canal Murray
Reservoir and expansion the same idea

763
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:24,119
Murray Reservoir would be expanded with
so that there would be room in the case

764
01:07:22,119 --> 01:07:28,400
of spring flood events or or summer
flooding uh events that more water could

765
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:33,200
be stored in Murray
Reservoir get the get the water off the

766
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:38,160
land and into these reservoirs Paradise
Creek dry dam is a proposed project that

767
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:43,520
is in the and I'm going to have to let
maybe let Gary explain exactly where it

768
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:48,720
is but it's at in in the Cypress Hills
areas

769
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:52,160
picture and uh so that the Paradise
Creek dry Dam would be the last Pro not

770
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:56,880
necessarily the last project in order of
getting them done it's just the way

771
01:07:53,520 --> 01:08:02,039
they're on on the paper
the horsefly Regional uh emergency

772
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:07,119
Spillway uh was chosen as the first
project of the seven projects outlined

773
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:13,039
because they the technical committee
which is uh

774
01:08:09,559 --> 01:08:16,440
um members of Staff of uh all all the
partners that are involved in the

775
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:21,040
project they're the ones that thought
that that project would give the most

776
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:23,839
benefit to the whole region versus any
of the others and I'm not sure where

777
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:28,719
we're going to go next as far as the
next project but uh horsefly was picked

778
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:34,359
first because it was it provided the
biggest bang for the buck over the whole

779
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:39,839
region the next slide is uh a list of
the partners that that are in part of

780
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:44,600
this project and have been since this
started I think back in about 2013 we've

781
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:49,159
had these Representatives around the
table from all of these uh Partners St

782
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:53,560
Mary River Irrigation District the town
of tabber the MD at Taber the town of

783
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:56,799
Cale Lethbridge County county of 40 m
Cypress County and the City of medicon

784
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:03,719
hat
and it's it really shows uh a a lot of

785
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:09,319
cooperation Regional cooperation from
all of our partners to get as far as

786
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:14,159
we've gotten this far and we're hoping
that uh with through a governance

787
01:09:11,799 --> 01:09:19,199
structure that Gary is going to speak to
in a few minutes we hope to keep this

788
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:22,920
group together because we believe that
uh collaborative and Regional

789
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,520
Partnerships and projects like this will
rece more are more likely to receive

790
01:09:24,679 --> 01:09:30,560
provincial in federal government uh
funding going into the future and we

791
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:34,159
have received a lot of funding from
provincial government as well as the

792
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:39,920
federal government through different
programs uh isip um DF disaster

793
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:44,880
mitigation adaptation funding and
Industry investing in Canada

794
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:50,239
infrastructure program as well as
acrp and what's the other provincial one

795
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:55,080
arless that we've gotten money through
it just referen as a an EPA mitigation

796
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:59,280
flooding mitigation Grant it was kind of
a onetime contribution but we believe

797
01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:04,239
that working together
regionally uh we're more likely to get F

798
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:11,920
funding for projects like this than if
each municipality was working on its

799
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:15,719
own so what are our next steps uh we've
been working on the formal development

800
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:20,120
of a government ENT entity to advocate
for and support implementation of the

801
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:23,239
remaining projects the regional drainage
committee is seeking long-term

802
01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:28,400
commitment and participation in this
Regional initiative and we uh uh we

803
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:34,080
believe that there is many benefits to
be had for uh this County Cypress County

804
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:40,800
by being part of this and we're going to
let Gary talk now on the government

805
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:47,400
structure right while they transition
with respect to those next steps that um

806
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:51,320
councelor Harris just mentioned um quite
candidly the council that's before us

807
01:10:49,719 --> 01:10:56,040
today is the reason why we're pursuing
those next steps um with respect to

808
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:59,400
establishing and governing some sort of
governing entity that ensures

809
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:03,199
participation from all part all Partners
so just I think that's notable in terms

810
01:11:01,719 --> 01:11:05,400
of the the audience that we're in front
of

811
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:17,600
today okay Gary will repeat what I said
yeah he took my thunder anyway so I'm

812
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:22,280
going to I muted his button while he was
talking um actually let's start with

813
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:27,040
that picture um that you had up earlier
the the

814
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:33,520
the the one from from um this book here
the um seaw wall book that was did a

815
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:37,760
report on water basins in around our
County around our area here in medicon

816
01:11:36,239 --> 01:11:41,080
hat so they're located right here in
medicon hat and they they did this

817
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:47,280
report back in
2011 this picture here if you take a

818
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:52,840
look at it um kind of shows the the
significance of of of what we're trying

819
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:58,679
to do to this area this here is the
Watershed of the seven person Creek and

820
01:11:56,199 --> 01:12:04,280
if you um just take your cursor straight
up you'll see on the by the number three

821
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:10,719
highway there bring your uh little yeah
there's bu Island right there and then

822
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:17,080
um if you bring that um further west and
you come down um you'll see the road um

823
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:23,440
the highway there the
8 um

824
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:29,480
885 uh or 879 I guess that's the one
that goes out to form most so that kind

825
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:34,440
of gives you an idea how far you are and
just the bottom edge of that you'll see

826
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:38,440
Highway 69 61 on the bottom so that's
that's mini berries there so that just

827
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:43,920
gives you an idea on how big this
watered is coming through um two s

828
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:49,840
persons Creek um there's Murray Lake
there so all that water um when it melts

829
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:54,080
comes around that direction and um it
just kind of gives you an idea on how

830
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:59,840
things um how big that area is that
we're talking how much is um impacted by

831
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:02,840
um what we're trying to do
here

832
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:11,159
um just for reference up by the just up
there's that three just above on that

833
01:13:08,639 --> 01:13:17,679
little creek there right about there or
just a little bit hair P back is um the

834
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:22,280
Seven Persons Dam um when we had the
flooding back in

835
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:27,960
20111 in uh Cypress
County um we uh the Cypress County

836
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:34,560
County declared a state of an emergency
um that Creek there was flooding and uh

837
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:41,280
41 uh properties were uh given
evacuation orders that little Dam there

838
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:47,880
did breach um seven person's uh Dam
Silver Lake is also another name for it

839
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:52,120
um that used to be part of our works uh
at SM and when I say hour I'm going to

840
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:58,520
be talking on behalf of SM because it's
an old habit I have um being from there

841
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:03,040
but um we don't use that anymore but
that that um that did breach and and

842
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:10,199
there was some flooding coming down that
Creek um the other thing that's along

843
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:16,560
that s person Creek was the um we have
um three golf courses further in um

844
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:23,120
we've got the um Desert Bloom we got
Cottonwood and we've got the par 3 and

845
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:29,560
um during this flooding event um they
all suffered damage to that

846
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:34,719
um if you just come up by Murray Lake um
wording there and and just yeah just

847
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:42,560
right a little bit further over you'll
see there's a there that's the um

848
01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:47,400
that's the the paradise um Creek so
that's about where that dry Dam would be

849
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:55,440
situated when we had that flooding in
2011 um we had flows not only coming

850
01:14:51,120 --> 01:15:00,920
into 7 persons uh uh into Murray Lake
and eventually some bur's Creek from the

851
01:14:58,199 --> 01:15:08,719
Pagan from the below but we also had a
big tertial uh flood come through the

852
01:15:05,239 --> 01:15:15,080
the paradise there and that joins um
seven person Creek right about um where

853
01:15:11,639 --> 01:15:20,159
the old hay plant is um if you kind of
know that area so those are the two

854
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:28,960
areas we're talking about in your region
right now um also just as reference the

855
01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:33,840
the solder uh Dam Spillway that we did
that was um we we've got that one

856
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:40,760
completed and that was um right on the
edge of your county um but what it did

857
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:46,360
is it it safety safety that spill water
coming from that direction um entering

858
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:51,480
into the county so it it alleviates that
water and and let's lets it go down to

859
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:57,199
the river so that it um doesn't come
into to the county and do extra D damage

860
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,199
that

861
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:10,679
way excuse me um the other thing to that
just for um information wise um 2010 the

862
01:16:07,159 --> 01:16:16,480
year previous to that um medicine at did
have another flood come around on the um

863
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:24,520
out of the Cypress Hills and it came
around um from the U other side yep um

864
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:31,920
that's the Ross Creek Side and um there
was uh uh a reported $54 million Damage

865
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:39,600
Done in Medicine Hat when that uh flood
came through so two major events in that

866
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:44,760
Watershed within 2 years so um you know
this isn't a one in 100 flood anymore

867
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:51,440
you know when you see stuff like that um
it it can happen

868
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:55,400
anytime um 2018 was another flood and we
that um we worked on that main Canal

869
01:16:54,360 --> 01:17:01,080
between
uh 40 mile in and solder to get that

870
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:06,800
water opened up too so
um um the other the other one that comes

871
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:13,239
to mind in 2010 we also had a flood in
up in uh Lethbridge where um we suffered

872
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:18,960
$3 million damage to the uh
infrastructure of St Mary's and we were

873
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:24,159
able to the the county did have a state
of emergency and we were able to get um

874
01:17:21,719 --> 01:17:30,800
disaster funding to help fix up the
canal after that event so these uh I

875
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:35,120
guess my message is that these can um
events can happen anywhere they can be

876
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:41,040
significant and they can
be you know they can come fast and and

877
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:45,679
and more often than you think so that's
just a a bit of a background to see you

878
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:50,320
know what what we're talking about here
and what we're trying to

879
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:56,320
achieve so then I'll um I'll switch over
to the presentation that uh I'd want to

880
01:17:52,920 --> 01:18:00,600
talk about so Merl talked mostly about
what we've done in the past and I'm

881
01:17:58,639 --> 01:18:04,400
going to I'm here today to kind of talk
about what we're doing now and and what

882
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:11,360
we're
um and what we're going to

883
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:20,760
uh what we've built and what we're going
to achieve here in the next year so

884
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:25,719
um so we we we got a a vision here a
govern governing

885
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:34,520
entity um that we that we
um proposed to um uh for the group um

886
01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:40,760
this came um at basically as as Arlo
said this this is at the request of

887
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:46,520
Cypress County because their funding um
that they were willing to provide uh as

888
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:51,040
per their motions uh requested that
everybody stayed in until all the

889
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:55,880
projects were done until the end so we
had to Pro we had to build a a

890
01:18:53,520 --> 01:19:03,239
governance system that would keep
everyone involved included and um until

891
01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:09,120
we got all seven projects finished so um
it it's you're a big reason why we've

892
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:14,080
got this on the table here today and we
were able to use that uh leverage to get

893
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:20,040
this done and and um and I think we've
got a a a document here that everybody's

894
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:27,639
felt comfortable to sign and um I'll
I'll walk through that with you a little

895
01:19:22,199 --> 01:19:34,600
bit so this entity is um is to become an
advocating body and and project and a

896
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:42,639
project Implement implementation
body um it's partnering with

897
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:49,320
smri and the municipalities um it
identifies and uh solidifies long-term

898
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:56,040
timelines to ensure uh complete
completion of all seven

899
01:19:52,440 --> 01:20:01,320
projects um we want to ensure that the
final construction is something that

900
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:05,639
smrd can use as they will be taking on
operations and maintenance of this uh

901
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:12,360
what after it's
completed um is to to ensure Financial

902
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:18,159
structure and um that the ex
expenditures are uh

903
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:22,280
significant and uh that they achieve the
Full Construction build out on time and

904
01:20:20,679 --> 01:20:26,280
on
budget um

905
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:35,600
so when we started um we had um the MD
Taber apply for Grant and received a

906
01:20:33,719 --> 01:20:42,840
grant uh from the Alberta Community
Partnerships Grant um we hired water

907
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:48,080
smart to facilitate Workshop style
discussions we started those discussions

908
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:53,880
in uh April of
2023 with our first workshops and then

909
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:58,880
um we at those workshops we had both
administrated and electric officials

910
01:20:56,440 --> 01:20:58,880
working

911
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:05,239
alongside um and we had them from each
of the municipal Partners in the

912
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:10,920
irrigation
districts um our last Workshop was of

913
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:18,360
January 2024 so last year around this
time we finished up on this and then

914
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:27,159
um so what did we uh what did we do at
those those um those workshops

915
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:32,040
um we jointly drafted an agreement and
we addressed the concerns as we reviewed

916
01:21:30,199 --> 01:21:39,199
feedback from our partners and we made
some

917
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:43,840
edits um we have some um exciting edits
here probably since the last time we

918
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:49,719
talked to you um we we came up with a
few things from the the request of um

919
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:55,159
the partners involved we have now gone
to a fixed pledge

920
01:21:52,400 --> 01:22:02,239
um um
um fixed amount of of of funds asked um

921
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:07,920
with a 2% inflation rate that ties back
to the 2023 cost

922
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:14,199
um
the where everybody got nervous is when

923
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:18,719
we had the inflation of of the 2023
discussion um Everybody uh thought this

924
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:23,199
thing was going to be a runaway on us
and so we we instead of trying to do a

925
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:29,800
percentage of the grants asked for we're
we're going to a St St where um we just

926
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:35,360
pledged the monies um uh you'll see the
monies there that we're asking and

927
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:42,480
then and then we go look for the grant
funding to uh get the projects

928
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:48,199
completed um we've got the second uh
portion that we um that I alluded to

929
01:22:44,679 --> 01:22:53,000
earlier um we've got uh we've asked SMR
to to um come forward with all the

930
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:57,760
maintenance costs in the future so
there's no risk there to to your

931
01:22:55,480 --> 01:23:02,920
counties and your your councils into the
future that you're tying something to

932
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:06,239
these um these funds that's going to be
a runaway these are hard numbers that we

933
01:23:05,159 --> 01:23:12,639
we
propose and um and this is all we ask

934
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:18,639
for and the other part of of this
agreement is that these funds remain

935
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:23,480
with you until uh called on we get we
give you these uh this schedule just so

936
01:23:20,679 --> 01:23:28,159
you can do some budgeting on your side
but they're hard numbers that you can

937
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:32,639
use and um and this is what you can
expect if we don't get the projects

938
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:37,520
funded if we don't find the grants for
them we won't be asking um for your

939
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:44,040
funds until we find that grant funding
to match um the projects

940
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:49,280
so
um so I'm just going to jump

941
01:23:51,639 --> 01:23:59,280
away kind of run from memory here and
got off my script a little bit but um

942
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:05,920
you can yeah there's probably a good one
to be so

943
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,920
um so the the

944
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:15,960
partners uh the partners are defined to
those who have contributed or are

945
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:24,840
contractual committed to the provincial
funding uh to provide Financial contri

946
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,840
contribution to the projects

947
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:35,239
all partners are represented in its to
in this

948
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,239
entity thank

949
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,760
you um the the

950
01:24:50,719 --> 01:25:00,040
need we need the entity to be formalized
and operation in a timely manner we uh

951
01:24:57,480 --> 01:25:06,000
we will execute the remaining projects
existing in

952
01:25:01,719 --> 01:25:06,000
the project implementation

953
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:17,040
plan uh two
projects um will be executed by SM U one

954
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:24,760
is already complete the solder uh shoot
as we talked about um SM built uh spent

955
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:32,080
uh close to 12 million in that that in
the in the build and then uh um securing

956
01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:38,159
that Dam with an extra toe on the bottom
um the chin Reservoir um we're we're

957
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:43,639
working on that um they've been working
on that dilcy they're on the regulatory

958
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:52,199
process right now um we're about three
years into that um we did do um a

959
01:25:47,639 --> 01:25:52,199
replacement uh last year of the

960
01:25:52,719 --> 01:26:03,280
um of the
Inlet uh Canal um there's a u if you're

961
01:25:59,719 --> 01:26:10,040
wanting to go to a website there's a um
documentation of of that um so you can

962
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:17,320
follow along if if you
feel I feel like you'd like to

963
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:23,239
um so that's uh the inlets into the into
the chin Dam um so that'll give us more

964
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:28,760
capacity out of the Bain canal and uh
get more water into

965
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:31,920
um so that that's um been built and will
come in uh this

966
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:46,480
spring um so there yeah there's uh
there's going to be an um Conduit on the

967
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:53,760
west D that we need to um rebuild and
and um that was built back in the 50s so

968
01:26:50,960 --> 01:27:00,159
we're um taking that on and that's going
to be part part of that new design um we

969
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:09,600
will be um building a new East
Dam um about 5 miles further east and

970
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:16,480
then um at at U we also will be raising
the whole um lake so we will be needing

971
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:22,520
cooperation from Alberta transportation
to uh redo the U Bridge across the dam

972
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:26,119
there on that side had to be Highway 36
uh um Bridge

973
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:34,239
um uh we got the the committee is
currently in the process of uh

974
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:41,639
constructing the horse FL um Regional
Spillway and and merlet talked about

975
01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:46,360
that um The Entity would would end um
once these projects are complete and and

976
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:51,480
I'll just
say unless it becomes a useful tool

977
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:59,080
because there's always there's already
been ideas of maybe using this entity in

978
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:06,000
um trying to get pable water out to
different regions and or uh Wastewater

979
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:10,360
um so if we have that collaboration and
we're seeing success this could turn

980
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:16,679
into to a different entity that that
could be useful into the future so we're

981
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:20,360
we're hoping that we can lead by example
on that

982
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:31,719
um so then we'll go to the
government's governance

983
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:36,119
model maybe just down one there it's not
no it's not in there okay so

984
01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:40,080
sorry
financials contribution

985
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:57,239
then yeah I just see it up there we got
to run ahead then to the numbers please

986
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:05,840
or back back where you back with the
numbers were little one more one one

987
01:29:02,199 --> 01:29:14,320
more okay so this is um what we talked
about earlier

988
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:17,320
um so the as you can see here um the um
140

989
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:28,719
um 140,000 per partner another $5,000
for the administration fee per year so

990
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:34,080
be 145 or six depending if just average
up but the part and thing here on this

991
01:29:31,159 --> 01:29:39,600
slide is to show the um the equal
percentage throughout all the partners

992
01:29:36,440 --> 01:29:45,520
and um this is actually less of a
percentage of the first ass of horsefly

993
01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:50,360
um to the to the four major counties um
but what it has done and has brought the

994
01:29:47,639 --> 01:29:54,679
percentage up on coldale and Taber um
smaller entities but at the same time um

995
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:58,040
willing to be protect participate
because they see the importance of this

996
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:04,119
um this
project when we uh did the um Horse Life

997
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:09,600
Project funding there was a lot of
discussion who should pay what etc etc

998
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:14,199
and back when we started with horsefly
uh it was agreed that the municipalities

999
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:23,960
would take on 15% the towns would take
on 10% and the city 5% so what the AR's

1000
01:30:20,119 --> 01:30:27,360
group has done the on the um uh admin
ministrative side when they got together

1001
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:33,000
they just said are we Partners or we not
partners and there they the decision or

1002
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:38,560
the discussion surrounded let's all be
equal partners and that's why it's

1003
01:30:35,119 --> 01:30:44,719
14.29% instead of 1510 and five is that
group AR's group said let's just be

1004
01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:48,600
partners and then that way everybody's
paying the exact same thing everybody's

1005
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:54,000
getting benefits out of this program out
of these projects so let's just all be

1006
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:59,440
partners rather than uh dividing it 15
10 and 5% and like I said that brings up

1007
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:05,639
the the like I said the city of Medicine
Hat would have paid 5% and now they're

1008
01:31:01,199 --> 01:31:10,239
at 14.29 just like uh we were asking 15%
from the Cypress County and now you're

1009
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:16,400
14.29 so everybody's paying the same
thing all the partners are in it in it

1010
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:21,800
equal now and and that it just makes it
easier is everybody still in from the

1011
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:26,679
original group I thought there was more
than seven people involved or seven

1012
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:32,480
areas we have letters of commitment from
all of our partners uh except for one uh

1013
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:36,600
we we've made this presentation to the
city of Medicine Hat and in December

1014
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:42,400
they made a motion to come in and be a
partner on part of this one that we is

1015
01:31:39,239 --> 01:31:45,840
still out outstanding and we still have
the intent to go and visit them again is

1016
01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:51,880
the county 40 mile they are the only
ones that have are still sitting on the

1017
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:56,960
edge and we haven't got a definite
commitment from them yet we have visited

1018
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:00,400
them and and there's been some changes
from their concerns that they're the

1019
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:05,679
ones that push for the maintenance on
the main Canal uh for ask them to do so

1020
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:09,960
we did get that done they also we also
got a hard number since we visited with

1021
01:32:07,639 --> 01:32:18,760
them last you know to to be able to
budget and and not have those uh runaway

1022
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:23,159
costs um for future uh councils to worry
about was the city of lathbridge

1023
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:26,920
involved in the beginning the city of
lathbridge is never been involved they

1024
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:31,600
won't take our meetings we we had one
good meeting with the current mayor and

1025
01:32:29,239 --> 01:32:38,400
he knew the issue and he knew the he
knew the uh benefits to their their city

1026
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:42,520
um of course as you all know they're
kind of in the middle of that exhibition

1027
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:49,400
thing right now so it was a bad time to
maybe talk to them um until they get

1028
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:54,560
that I I will tell you that we have had
discussions with

1029
01:32:51,360 --> 01:33:01,840
mlaas um around their area that want
them to be part of this U initiative so

1030
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:07,199
I think once we have it signed we
haven't given up on the the hope to have

1031
01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:13,360
those meetings and and have maybe a bit
of pressure from the mlaas to help them

1032
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:19,520
help us get in get them included in that
and then these percentages would go down

1033
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:25,520
one thing about this with Medicine Hat
when we we got their um got them on

1034
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:32,040
board we they agreed to come back with
their original contribution to um

1035
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:36,119
horsefly Spillway also so they've been
as if they were in from the beginning

1036
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:41,800
they'll provide the funding asked for
from them as partners as they've been

1037
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:49,000
along with us the whole time so uh they
agreed to do that and um are willing to

1038
01:33:44,719 --> 01:33:54,320
to see this uh be uh completed to the
end so as Gary mentioned earlier when

1039
01:33:52,159 --> 01:34:01,520
you're committing the4
40 uh $5,000 a year plus 2% inflation

1040
01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:04,760
over the years just so that uh it it
gives you guys a number that you can

1041
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:11,800
budget annually you know that your
contribution is going to be 145,000 plus

1042
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:16,639
2% every year ending up at about 212,000
contribution in year 20 and that uh that

1043
01:34:15,159 --> 01:34:20,280
gets that money gets to stick in your
bank account until this committee calls

1044
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:24,360
for it and we'd only call for it once
the project has been tendered and the

1045
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:28,800
and the tender has been awarded and
that's when your Municipal contribution

1046
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:33,520
would be required and we'd only tender
if we get the grant funding and yeah we

1047
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:39,159
don't we don't go ahead with any project
that we don't have the money for and uh

1048
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:42,679
it uh takes a lot of um time on
Administration behalf to apply for

1049
01:34:41,239 --> 01:34:46,840
Grants and those sort of things but
that's that's where we got to that's

1050
01:34:44,679 --> 01:34:50,520
where we are today is we got grant
funding from the two different levels of

1051
01:34:48,679 --> 01:34:54,159
government and our municipalities and
the smid to to start the horse fly

1052
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:57,679
project
and uh like I said I'm not sure which

1053
01:34:56,159 --> 01:35:02,040
one is going to be next that we've kind
of left that up to the technical

1054
01:34:59,159 --> 01:35:07,400
committee to to think to decide which is
the next most beneficial project to

1055
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:12,159
start with but until we have the grant
funding in place we don't tender a

1056
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:16,639
project and we don't have to make your
contribution but you know that uh based

1057
01:35:14,679 --> 01:35:23,440
on today's numbers you would be looking
at 14588 to plus 2% interest or

1058
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:28,119
inflation I should say each year uh as
your contribution when the time comes

1059
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:32,600
that we actually call for the money so
yeah if you move up a slide that or two

1060
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:35,440
it shows another question from somebody
here no to the chair so you talk about

1061
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:39,679
the grant funding I was just kind of
curious what kind of percentage are you

1062
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:45,159
looking for when it comes to the grant
funding like to get to be involved I

1063
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:50,239
mean to be to make it go
forward well well again we're we're not

1064
01:35:48,119 --> 01:35:54,239
proposing this as a percentage we're
proposing it as more of a pledge and

1065
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:58,480
then we go look for the gr funding to
finish it so this is your hard number

1066
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:06,280
here
um this is this is your ask uh scroll up

1067
01:36:03,119 --> 01:36:11,600
uh no the way you're going is good one
more right there so that shows you how

1068
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:16,199
the inflationary part of it works that's
the number that inflates in 20 years but

1069
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:21,800
this is your only ask then we go looking
for federal and and preventional funding

1070
01:36:18,440 --> 01:36:25,960
to fill the Gap to the so that's what I
mean by a pledge there is no moreone

1071
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:30,040
money asking here I understand that but
I'm just curious of what what Grant are

1072
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:35,199
you you know looking for to even carry
on start the project with like I mean

1073
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:40,400
are you hoping to get you know 20% of it
or 10% of the total cost

1074
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:44,600
or I'm not sure if you understand what I
mean

1075
01:36:41,480 --> 01:36:50,080
but I think I understand I mean as
always the goal would be to get as much

1076
01:36:46,119 --> 01:36:54,320
as possible I think generally lot lots
of the provincial programs are a 7030

1077
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:59,119
cost share breakdown
I can speak only specifically to the

1078
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:05,360
horsefly Spillway project and we're
sitting at about a 80 to 85% grant

1079
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:10,320
funding uh level there so much better
than the 7030 but we've been able to

1080
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:14,639
achieve it's about 82 or
83% grant funding and that's a

1081
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:19,360
combination of Federal Grant and
provincial

1082
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:25,400
Grant they they also we're going to get
to the the the amount that SM is um is

1083
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:32,360
contributing to this but they're also
now allowing the purchase price of the

1084
01:37:29,199 --> 01:37:35,880
um land to be part of our pledge so
that'll help the the initial grants

1085
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:40,400
weren't that way but now they're letting
us do that and I think we were able to

1086
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:46,360
stack a few grants to to to bring that
percentage

1087
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:50,000
up Robin thank you um I just need
Clarity on one thing with with the

1088
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:53,480
pledge system I like that that sounds
great um what I'm trying to understand

1089
01:37:52,400 --> 01:38:03,800
because I don't believe that this is a
20e buildout so how does the Pledge part

1090
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:07,840
work with you know um essentially if you
get the the grant funding that you're

1091
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:13,760
looking for but it happens sooner than
the the the pledges coming in how does

1092
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,760
that

1093
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:20,639
reconcile the idea was that we could get
these all done in in a 20-year time

1094
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:26,760
frame we were hoping to do one every
five years and like uh the the pumping

1095
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:31,400
station uh pumping Inlet stations that's
a small one it's like $2 million that

1096
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:34,440
one's not a big deal probably Murray
would be the next biggest I I don't know

1097
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:38,040
which is the most expensive after the
one we're actually working on but the

1098
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:43,560
timeline we were hoping to do one
project every within a time a fiveyear

1099
01:38:40,239 --> 01:38:48,080
time frame and so hopefully by putting
20 years on this that's like I said

1100
01:38:45,639 --> 01:38:52,520
that's what your contribution is and we
just have to fund raise them to to to

1101
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:58,599
make up the rest I think that if I
remember correctly MAF would do 40% of

1102
01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:04,920
the project arlos and the acrp
was um it worked out to about

1103
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:10,440
73% uh grant funding and we've been able
to get more actually than the than the

1104
01:39:08,119 --> 01:39:15,880
73% I think I think you said we're about
83% right now on the horse project but

1105
01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:20,360
what we what we're trying
to do here is solidify what the ask is

1106
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:25,320
for
municipalities and then it's up to the

1107
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:29,639
committee whoever that committee is uh
in the future to get the fundrais to do

1108
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:33,880
the fundraising with the provincial and
federal government to make up the

1109
01:39:31,719 --> 01:39:39,760
rest I I think the other thing to
remember is in the agreement you are at

1110
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:44,920
the table so you can regulate how fast
you want to go on this too right so um

1111
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:49,920
it's not necessarily that cuz you are
part of the committee you know that in

1112
01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:54,000
there too so it it'll be the appetite of
the people involved but this was trying

1113
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:56,280
to give a number so that people could go
out and

1114
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:09,280
budget okay anybody else have any
questions at this

1115
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:26,679
point so again we we um we took the
2023 um numbers now these would have had

1116
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:32,080
a quite an inflation jump when we you
know through Co and all the rest but we

1117
01:40:29,719 --> 01:40:38,719
took this as a as a hard number then and
and add the the 2% to it

1118
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:44,719
so we're pretty sure we can sell this to
um the feds and the province as a pledge

1119
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:50,840
and and be able to get the grant funding
to to get these um projects

1120
01:40:51,000 --> 01:41:01,920
completed um go to the next slide
then um so this is um the SM um

1121
01:41:00,639 --> 01:41:07,320
Financial
contribution um they uh they did

1122
01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:13,639
complete the solder Spillway there was
another $2 million they put on top of

1123
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:21,199
that um to uh to get that project done
um the chin expansion um well they'll be

1124
01:41:18,679 --> 01:41:26,920
it'll be uh well over that now as we got
into the regulatory side of things and

1125
01:41:23,719 --> 01:41:33,960
understand the the different uh um the
East End when they started doing the

1126
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:39,000
exploratory um drilling to see what
they're building on it's going to be

1127
01:41:35,599 --> 01:41:48,199
quite a Quite a feat to get that that
damn built um they've we when we did the

1128
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:54,639
initial uh phase one of of uh horse fly
Spillway we we still hadn't had City

1129
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:59,440
Madison hat on board and and um we we
kind of could see things falling apart

1130
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:05,159
with all our partners so I went back to
SM and asked for this one and a half

1131
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:13,719
million to get that project finished um
so they they did that and um they're um

1132
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:19,320
also doing the the land uh purchases
um uh which is yeah over a million

1133
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:23,880
dollars on that they're working on right
now phase two which is the most

1134
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:32,560
congested from um
the the Roger sugar South now to um to

1135
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:37,880
um to the horse fly down there
so

1136
01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:47,679
um they uh also as I've told you before
they they've um they're working on their

1137
01:42:40,719 --> 01:42:51,080
commitment to um to do um the the um
cost to do the

1138
01:42:51,280 --> 01:43:01,320
the uh to upkeep on on the on the
canal uh the operating costs um and

1139
01:42:58,679 --> 01:43:04,920
they're estimating that to be about 250
a year

1140
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:17,520
um the the master G does not propose a
instance um for large scale emergency

1141
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:23,880
disaster causing
um significant infrastructure damage so

1142
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:29,159
this this is talking to when we ask the
counties to help us um to go look for

1143
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:35,400
disaster funding from The Province when
we have a ma a major

1144
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:40,599
um major wreck on our main Canal so much
the same way would would be for the uh

1145
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,599
for the spillway then

1146
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:49,280
too okay so go to the next slide please

1147
01:43:55,119 --> 01:44:02,880
okay so we
um so we uh we've got the the plan now

1148
01:44:00,119 --> 01:44:09,480
and and we've gone around to um all our
partners um except for for M we got to

1149
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:16,199
get back to them again um um we've got
the the master agreement and um imp

1150
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:23,719
we'll have the implementation plan um to
have a the preliminary uh

1151
01:44:20,239 --> 01:44:31,719
timeline um and then
um like I said roughly 20

1152
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:31,719
years um the plan is to be

1153
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:39,840
um uh amended by the MCC once
formalized

1154
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:52,520
um so from that um we're we're moving
from the the planning stage then into

1155
01:44:48,719 --> 01:44:56,960
the uh into the implementation side uh
the capital comp uh contributions

1156
01:44:54,760 --> 01:45:04,199
request uh for the project approximately
every 5 years so as we talked about here

1157
01:45:01,599 --> 01:45:04,199
before

1158
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:15,719
so okay the next slide
please uh once the agreement has been uh

1159
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:20,920
reviewed and signed which uh again we're
very close um the go governing entity

1160
01:45:19,719 --> 01:45:27,639
will be
established um will be establishing The

1161
01:45:24,679 --> 01:45:33,239
Entity um will require approval from by
all councils and partners so um again

1162
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:40,320
that's why we're here and and that's why
we've done the um trip to all the uh the

1163
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:46,840
partners and and explained the
presentation any questions okay I do

1164
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:53,119
believe there's some questions
here Robin you had some more

1165
01:45:49,719 --> 01:45:57,679
questions I did thank you gentlemen um
the as I listen to the presentation and

1166
01:45:55,320 --> 01:46:00,800
as I think back over the last few years
um there been a lot of different uh you

1167
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:05,599
know a lot of different information
that's comeing and I I I recognize that

1168
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:10,719
we are dealing with a you know a
liability the the the uh water

1169
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:15,520
management the flood mitigation I see
that you know as as an insurance policy

1170
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:20,239
um and my position has always been that
you know like I I can see I can see why

1171
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:23,360
Taber and I can see why a lot of those
communities that are in that immediate

1172
01:46:21,679 --> 01:46:28,040
vicinity where you you know you're
you're trying to mitigate the flooding

1173
01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:33,679
but you're also able to take advantage
full advantage of the water um capacity

1174
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:37,280
and the potential of utilizing that for
the plants I think and Merl when you

1175
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:41,199
gave the list of some of the different
businesses and and industries that are

1176
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:46,440
out there um all of them were in that
area not necessarily down here and so

1177
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:51,199
I'm not blind to our potential and our
and our our um where we want to go down

1178
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:56,320
here but I definitely see Cypress County
as being 10 15 years behind behind where

1179
01:46:54,000 --> 01:47:00,679
kind of that food Corridor in that Taber
Cale Lethbridge area is and where we

1180
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:05,800
want to be able to go so the challenge
that I have is I want to be able to

1181
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:10,440
communicate to our residents my
residents that um in supporting this

1182
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:16,880
that we aren't only ticking off the Box
on um trying to uh manage uh and

1183
01:47:14,440 --> 01:47:22,280
mitigate risk on flooding which is
largely happening Upstream um but that

1184
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:27,560
we're also able to provide them for this
equal part parip that we're

1185
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:30,760
in some form of opportunity which I
recognize is provided through smeared

1186
01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:34,880
and and you're not standing here
representing smeared currently but

1187
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:39,440
making sure that we have the ability to
benefit and to be able to uh utilize

1188
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:43,800
some of this additional water storage
and so early on that was kind of a part

1189
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:48,440
of the conversation I'm just curious to
know where we're at with that now um are

1190
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:51,880
we still in a position where smear disc
may be communicated what kind of

1191
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:56,920
potential capacity we'd be looking at
and what that would translate to as far

1192
01:47:54,520 --> 01:48:02,599
as like Cypress County and potential for
more irrigation down the road or are we

1193
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:08,800
as kind of the the last guys on the on
the uh the line um kind of in the

1194
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:13,199
partnership more from a pure risk
mitigation standpoint it's pretty direct

1195
01:48:11,159 --> 01:48:21,239
question but I just I'm I I need to know
kind of where we're at with that right

1196
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:27,239
um yeah and thanks for the question I as
you know I'm an advocate to to Bringing

1197
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:34,080
industry in Agri food to medicat to
Cypress County and um I see this as as

1198
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:39,040
being twofold in the fact that the the
flood

1199
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:43,520
um proofing that we're doing here or the
the the mitigation that we're doing here

1200
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:48,920
to help make sure that those
infrastructures remain in place so that

1201
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:53,560
that industry can come to CPUs County
and and be assured that that water is

1202
01:48:51,119 --> 01:49:01,040
available and won't be
interrupted second fold to that is is

1203
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:06,320
the the Murray Lake in
particular will be bigger to hold more

1204
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:14,480
drainage water but there will be times
that it would could hold more water um

1205
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:17,719
that won't be wasted when when we have
rain events and all the sprinklers shut

1206
01:49:16,159 --> 01:49:24,760
down and and there's a place for that
water to be stored and be used by US

1207
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:28,639
down this way this ties excuse me this
ties

1208
01:49:26,199 --> 01:49:34,920
in perhaps with the discussion we're
having on on the U uh cabin Lake

1209
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:41,560
discussion and and and putting more
Acres out that direction if that happens

1210
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:46,280
it becomes all of St Mary at in one and
the expansion acres are there to be used

1211
01:49:43,719 --> 01:49:53,480
everywhere so if there's opportunities
down here it certainly can be used for

1212
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:59,520
that um second to that I have had
conversations with Agri food industry

1213
01:49:56,719 --> 01:50:05,080
pointing to Seven Persons in particular
right by Murray Lake as a great place to

1214
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:11,960
set up shop um because of the
Railway because of the of the lake

1215
01:50:08,719 --> 01:50:15,960
itself for winter water and use um to to
run a plant much like the ones along

1216
01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:22,840
Highway
3 um potential for Lane actually in

1217
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:29,480
three directions East West and North
from here so um I I

1218
01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:34,520
have been that's my vision I guess to
see for and what I've put out there to

1219
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:41,400
um people interested in coming here to
set up shop for that Agra aggra food

1220
01:50:37,679 --> 01:50:46,480
industry second to that um Cypress
county is a big County and if people are

1221
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:52,199
going
to um the Acres used there there's

1222
01:50:49,480 --> 01:50:56,880
there's many many acres of of grassland
and and

1223
01:50:53,760 --> 01:51:02,360
um but this potential Corridor is where
your Agra food Hub is going to be and

1224
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:08,639
the potential growth is right here too
so it will affect all of those Acres but

1225
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:13,719
the the tax benefit coming from that um
that growth will come from that Corridor

1226
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:19,360
right in through here
so if that answers your

1227
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:25,639
question um Merill had some good
discussions too yeah

1228
01:51:22,679 --> 01:51:32,280
um about 19 months ago I was invited to
participate in a tour of Southern

1229
01:51:28,599 --> 01:51:37,280
Alberta with a major food production
company out of the United States and one

1230
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:41,679
of the things that absolutely impressed
them they were very impressed with the

1231
01:51:39,079 --> 01:51:46,119
irrigation infrastructure that is in
place in Southern Alberta they just

1232
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:52,000
couldn't comprehend what we're doing in
Southern Alberta with irrigation putting

1233
01:51:49,719 --> 01:51:57,639
pipeline in the ground to save water use
less water by uh pipelines versus open

1234
01:51:55,199 --> 01:52:02,199
ditches etc
etc but they were really really

1235
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:05,760
impressed with what we're doing with
this project with these projects to

1236
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:12,119
protect that
infrastructure so that year after year

1237
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:17,800
if you have a bad storm event in the
Cypress Hills or the MD Taber we've got

1238
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:21,800
away or we or we're developing a way to
make sure that infrastructure doesn't

1239
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:27,440
get washed away for a season and that
was really they were really impressed

1240
01:52:23,679 --> 01:52:32,159
with that will Cypress County benefit
from a major food processor coming to

1241
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:36,560
Southern Alberta I don't think it can
all be in the Lethbridge area it just it

1242
01:52:34,639 --> 01:52:43,159
can't it's it's got to start coming this
way I believe because uh there's lots of

1243
01:52:40,199 --> 01:52:48,840
land available for high value crops down
here that uh in let's just say tab I'll

1244
01:52:47,239 --> 01:52:54,480
I'll pick on Tab because that's where
I'm from um there's it's already

1245
01:52:53,000 --> 01:53:00,000
I'm not going to say totally saturated
for like let's say potatoes for example

1246
01:52:57,599 --> 01:53:06,719
but there could be a lot more of it down
here if they were if they CH chose to to

1247
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:11,440
to come here as Gary said in for for
example the seven person's region around

1248
01:53:08,480 --> 01:53:17,520
that lake so I I think that the the
benefits uh of the Agra food processing

1249
01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:23,520
Corridor that MLA Hunter is working so
hard on the benefits will come this way

1250
01:53:21,239 --> 01:53:28,159
but like I said from my exper experience
uh there this company was really

1251
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:32,199
impressed with what we're doing with
irrigation but the fact that we're doing

1252
01:53:30,159 --> 01:53:35,679
these projects to protect that infrastru
infrastructure really impressed

1253
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:42,840
them any
Shane through all your

1254
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:50,159
studies because when you come down into
Cyprus County or

1255
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:55,760
irrigation funnels down or
acreages with the expansion of M lake

1256
01:53:53,719 --> 01:54:03,040
has there ever been how many more Acres
we could actually actually irrigate

1257
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:08,079
because the cont you know we when you go
south it rises we got the river to the

1258
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:12,639
north we're confined on the amount of
Acres any extra Acres that we can put

1259
01:54:11,719 --> 01:54:17,880
into
irrigation because we need extra acres

1260
01:54:16,159 --> 01:54:22,560
to bring that Agri Food business this
way otherwise it's is going to stay to

1261
01:54:20,159 --> 01:54:27,880
the West because your economics of
Trucking and that because we narrow down

1262
01:54:25,119 --> 01:54:34,239
our acreages I mean our amount of Acres
irrigated here that it will stay to the

1263
01:54:31,079 --> 01:54:38,440
West because it's just based on trucking
and access because you're coming out of

1264
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:44,960
nle down with
products and that so it's really tough

1265
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:49,119
so have on any of them Studies have they
said how many more Acres of irrigation

1266
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:52,440
we could have with the expansion of
Murray Lake

1267
01:54:52,520 --> 01:55:01,639
I I don't know about the studies but
what I will tell you um if you go into

1268
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:06,840
to Taber and and and into
chin

1269
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:10,000
that they're not scared to push water
and they'll push water and then they'll

1270
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:14,960
put it in a reservoir and then they'll
push it out again um when you're seeing

1271
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:21,679
that kind of return per acre you know
that you see from from the roll crops of

1272
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:25,199
potatoes and and sugar beads um they're
not scared to to spend the money to do

1273
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:30,239
it you know we're we're you and I we're
not used to it cuz we we grow hay and

1274
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:36,880
and uh we have the FED Lots you know but
uh but that industry those those Farmers

1275
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:44,079
they you know I I know of three that
have bought land down here in the last

1276
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:46,920
year so I'm I'm not um I'm very
confident that they have no problem

1277
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:52,639
pushing
water further to the South to get up and

1278
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:59,760
and
the um Cavin Lake Project I think is is

1279
01:55:55,880 --> 01:56:05,719
3,000 Acres added you know in itself so
depending on how we we look at uh uh

1280
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:11,480
look at it I I don't think there's a an
issue there um if there's a way they'll

1281
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,480
find it and they'll make it

1282
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:21,199
work any other
questions

1283
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:25,320
Keith what's your time frame in your
estimate of getting

1284
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:33,760
um seeing a benefit at this part of the
do we have to wait the 15 years to the

1285
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:40,480
20 years to see the benefit are we going
to see a benefit

1286
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:40,480
sooner than the tail end of the

1287
01:56:42,679 --> 01:56:53,000
project well I I
think I I was involved with with the the

1288
01:56:50,119 --> 01:56:59,760
um the plan coming into La Bridge the
potato plant there and and their Council

1289
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:06,079
had put the in place the place to put it
and and had everything uh arranged for

1290
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:12,760
them to come so I think any time that
you you move forward with with inviting

1291
01:57:10,199 --> 01:57:18,119
people to come to build stuff it it's
not it's it's a good thing like it it it

1292
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:26,199
it promotes that confidence in your area
to come and invest so um I think

1293
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:30,360
quite honestly is is if you're looking
like you're you're inviting them to come

1294
01:57:28,719 --> 01:57:37,199
they're they're going to come and build
and and they're going to bring with them

1295
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:45,679
all those jobs and all the Acres um that
that could potentially feed that that

1296
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:49,159
plant or that industry um so I think I
think you got to look at it more that

1297
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:54,560
you have to put the invite out first and
then have them come rather than say Well

1298
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:58,040
when will they come and and we'll do it
when they come they won't

1299
01:57:59,159 --> 01:58:02,560
come any other

1300
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:15,360
questions I didn't ask
you go ahead which is why which is why

1301
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:19,079
I'm not speaking so no I just wanted to
make sure that um councelor C if I can

1302
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:25,639
see that
correctly his question was um

1303
01:58:23,159 --> 01:58:30,599
I guess considered in the right context
um were you necessar were you

1304
01:58:28,239 --> 01:58:34,719
specifically asking about the projects
identified in what we've reviewed today

1305
01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:40,159
and whether this area will see the
benefit of those sooner than the 20-year

1306
01:58:37,119 --> 01:58:46,040
buildout is that what you're asking okay
I think I think the answer to that is

1307
01:58:42,639 --> 01:58:50,520
very driven by the members of that that
committee right so if you have strong

1308
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:56,560
representation I.E city of Medicine Hat
is on board now um um closely I think

1309
01:58:54,599 --> 01:59:01,119
Cypress county is if you have that
presence I think you would see a lot

1310
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:06,760
quicker return in those projects being
built here on the east on the East End

1311
01:59:04,199 --> 01:59:11,199
um again that's a very poit that's
that's me being speculative because I'm

1312
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:14,520
not an elected official I'm not I don't
sit on that committee but I think being

1313
01:59:13,639 --> 01:59:20,280
part of
it will inform or better answer your

1314
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:24,920
question in terms of how quickly you can
realize the benefit of it solder

1315
01:59:22,599 --> 01:59:29,920
Reservoir was a project that wasn't
contemplated to be sorry solder

1316
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:33,800
Spillway was a project that wasn't
contemplated to be done as quick as it

1317
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:37,639
was but it was done and that benefits
this end of the project or this end of

1318
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:42,119
the region um a lot quicker than
expected so that's one project that has

1319
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:48,199
been completed but you look at Murray or
Paradise those two particular projects I

1320
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:52,639
think I think have a good case to to be
pushed up in the queue um once this

1321
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:55,800
partnership is actually form normalized
so okay I hope that answers your

1322
01:59:54,000 --> 02:00:02,079
question a little bit yeah actually your
last statement kind of kind of help put

1323
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:07,320
that in perspective yeah again we've got
uh what we call the main committee which

1324
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:11,079
is the elected officials and and arlos
uh kind of has a loose Committee of the

1325
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:17,880
administrative officials and then the
technical committee is is like engineers

1326
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:23,159
and Public Works people from um each
member Community or municipality and

1327
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:26,679
like I said they're the ones that
recommended I guess to the main

1328
02:00:24,639 --> 02:00:31,719
committee that horsefly Spillway be done
first and so uh by have Cypress County

1329
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:35,679
having somebody on that technical
committee they can voice their opinion

1330
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:39,320
that no this project needs to be done
next or you know like I said it was a

1331
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:43,239
recommendation to the main committee
quite a number of years ago that

1332
02:00:41,079 --> 02:00:48,159
horsefly be done first and that was that
came from the technical committee okay

1333
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:54,480
so it's really us getting involved on on
the on the different uh aspects of

1334
02:00:51,119 --> 02:00:59,440
finding this yeah like I
believe Dan and Richard have attended in

1335
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:04,360
the past some of the committee meetings
I don't know about on the technical side

1336
02:01:01,719 --> 02:01:08,880
but uh I I said each of the
municipalities each town and uh

1337
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:13,679
municipality has had somebody
representing their municipality at the

1338
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:18,400
technical committee working group that
hashes out some of the details before it

1339
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:22,440
comes to the the main committee for
approval okay does that make sense

1340
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:28,639
Richard and
Robin I've always supported this project

1341
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:34,880
and uh I like it the way it's been
coming along

1342
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:43,040
um there's lots more to do things
besides iral IR irrigable Acres I look

1343
02:01:39,679 --> 02:01:51,320
at vertical vertical growing
because of the uh Greenhouse that's in

1344
02:01:47,079 --> 02:01:56,960
my um my area last count they I think
they employ 365 people uh lots of

1345
02:01:54,920 --> 02:02:01,679
spin-off daily
Trucking uh out of there that goes to

1346
02:01:59,599 --> 02:02:08,079
Red Hat Red Hat employs a bunch of
people I was told there's 11 trucks a

1347
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:13,920
day leaving Red Hat to go to Edmonton
besides all the other places so you look

1348
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:19,639
at the spin-off there and uh you know
that's just big marble being my neighbor

1349
02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:26,280
but if they lose if the infrastructure
is lost Upstream

1350
02:02:22,679 --> 02:02:32,000
they are done cuz they totally rely on
the water that they're getting for

1351
02:02:28,079 --> 02:02:36,239
irrigation and uh they have big big
ponds

1352
02:02:33,599 --> 02:02:40,239
but I remember talking to Grant Hunter
and saying well it's great to you know

1353
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:44,560
kind of expand the acreage there but
don't forget about us here that there's

1354
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:49,800
such a thing as that and and who knows
there there could be some more uh plans

1355
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:54,599
coming up eventually for vertical
growing and I think we need to you're

1356
02:02:52,040 --> 02:03:00,520
ready for that
uh especially when we say we want to buy

1357
02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:07,320
Canadian so I I think we got to really
really take a look at this and also be

1358
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:11,840
part of it so thanks Robin thanks this
is my last question um because I'm

1359
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:15,000
getting hungry so the uh you mentioned
about uh governance and you mentioned

1360
02:03:14,079 --> 02:03:19,960
about the main committee and the
technical committee um I don't think

1361
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:24,679
that we went through our organizational
meeting here in October and I I don't

1362
02:03:22,239 --> 02:03:29,119
believe that we have somebody on the
committee we may have participated early

1363
02:03:26,599 --> 02:03:33,599
on you know kind of as an ad hoc type of
a thing but what what is the actual

1364
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:37,880
structure of those committees is is it
that every every member has one person

1365
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:41,199
that sits on that main committee is it
two people how does that how does it

1366
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:46,400
work from a governance standpoint right
at this point in time it's kind of loose

1367
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:50,159
okay like uh our municipality has three
people that attend not

1368
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:53,320
necessarily they all vote but
technically maybe only one of us should

1369
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:58,320
it's kind of loose right now and that's
why we're trying to get it into an

1370
02:03:55,400 --> 02:04:01,280
actual formal everybody would have one
person there or two people there

1371
02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:06,159
whatever the number might be so that
everybody's got an equal

1372
02:04:03,079 --> 02:04:09,360
vote the uh like I said that that's kind
of the main committee like I said and

1373
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:14,480
then the technical one is just like I
said the the city engineer the municipal

1374
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:18,719
uh in uh director of Municipal
infrastructure

1375
02:04:15,599 --> 02:04:22,320
whatever uh sit on a committee and like
I said they work out hash out some of

1376
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:25,920
the I don't know they had a meeting the
other day we're still working on the

1377
02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:30,199
horsefly one and they this technical
committee kind of makes sure the

1378
02:04:28,079 --> 02:04:33,719
engineering is done and the project
management is done and that that way the

1379
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:38,599
main committee doesn't have to do it on
a day-by-day basis we have a former

1380
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:44,040
employee of the mdia Taber that's kind
of the project manager for the horsefly

1381
02:04:41,719 --> 02:04:47,880
project and I know he's looking to be
retired he retired five years ago but we

1382
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:53,199
still carrying them on you know and
we're just trying to get this formalized

1383
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:56,800
so that it's not an ad hoc group CU
really that's really all it is right now

1384
02:04:54,760 --> 02:05:00,159
is a well it's you need an army right
now right you've got your practical side

1385
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:04,400
with which is your operations but if
you're talking about the completion of

1386
02:05:02,119 --> 02:05:07,520
the project being limited to fundraising
you need you need to have that committee

1387
02:05:06,199 --> 02:05:10,920
doing work in Edmonton you need to have
that that committee doing work in Ottawa

1388
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:15,440
you have to be especially with a change
of government coming soon um we need

1389
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:19,199
like to me that would be a missed
opportunity and similar to Lethbridge

1390
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:23,559
you know taking their team Lethbridge
and going up to Edmonton I see this

1391
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:27,400
committee needing to do something
similar to that if if it's going to be

1392
02:05:25,599 --> 02:05:31,199
Tang it it's just like you said you got
to invite you actually have to go and

1393
02:05:29,119 --> 02:05:33,880
find the funds it's not just there there
aren't grants saying hey there's a

1394
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:37,719
Spillway Grant that's available right
now so the the governance structure that

1395
02:05:35,559 --> 02:05:43,199
Gary's talked about is formalizing what
we've been doing ad hoc for 10 plus

1396
02:05:40,199 --> 02:05:47,800
years yeah and and basically when you
sign up you're signed up and the exit

1397
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:52,239
clause is you pay what you would have
paid if you had a stayed in sort of a

1398
02:05:49,679 --> 02:05:57,040
thing but it's formalizing it so that
it's not just an ad hoc group of elected

1399
02:05:55,119 --> 02:06:00,920
officials or technical committee that
get together and move this thing along

1400
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:06,360
and that's really the way it's been done
now is is Gary and I have just we're the

1401
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:11,880
co-chairs and every municipality has
somebody or one you know uh the CEO

1402
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:16,760
comes and the elected official come the
elected officials vote and that sort of

1403
02:06:14,679 --> 02:06:21,280
stuff but it's we're trying to formalize
it so that this group can stay together

1404
02:06:19,559 --> 02:06:25,840
to get all the projects done and if it
works after that to carry on doing other

1405
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:29,360
projects so be it otherwise at the end
when the projects are all done this

1406
02:06:27,079 --> 02:06:29,360
thing will

1407
02:06:31,079 --> 02:06:41,559
fold okay I just have an important point
that I missed there when as I went way

1408
02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:46,480
ahead of myself and got flustered and
had to calm myself down but um I just

1409
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:52,199
wanted to point out because you'll be
going through this agreement or you'll

1410
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:57,440
be reading it and um the paradise
is a bit of a different animal in that

1411
02:06:54,320 --> 02:07:02,400
it's not part of the SM infrastructure
and in the agreement that we have

1412
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:06,400
presented now it it has that we will
advocate for the province to take on

1413
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:10,440
that structure once it's built and do
the maintenance and own it and that's

1414
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:15,800
nothing new The Province does own dams
all over the province so just wanted to

1415
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:19,119
point that out that because if you come
upon that and reading it you you'll find

1416
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:24,159
that point and wonder why that's been
changed but it it's just that it's not

1417
02:07:21,559 --> 02:07:29,320
not something that SM is involved with
so we're substitute simply substituting

1418
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:29,320
The Province for

1419
02:07:35,639 --> 02:07:42,239
that in closing like I said thank you
for the opportunity to come and uh

1420
02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:46,040
refresh and remind you what we're doing
and bring you up to speed as to what's

1421
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:50,040
actually happening we invite the Cypress
County to be part of this we think that

1422
02:07:48,159 --> 02:07:55,239
there's benefits for the Cypress County
to be part of this group

1423
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:58,520
um and again we appreciate the
opportunity to come and visit with you

1424
02:07:59,559 --> 02:08:09,400
today have a great day guys thank you
very

1425
02:08:04,199 --> 02:08:09,400
much I will adjourn for lunch

1426
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:47,119
no okay I'll call the meeting back to
order so I need a motion to take it off

1427
02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:47,119
the table

1428
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:59,400
correct Lane is making motion to take
what the heck was

1429
02:08:55,000 --> 02:09:04,119
it control d control
of thank you Mr reev and members of the

1430
02:09:01,599 --> 02:09:08,360
council it occurs to me as I was
listening to the discussion this morning

1431
02:09:05,599 --> 02:09:12,040
regarding the dust control policy our
current desk control policy hasn't been

1432
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:16,559
looked at in many years and
uh I think we are making motions on

1433
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:20,760
fixing bits and pieces of without a
comprehensive review it would be my

1434
02:09:18,719 --> 02:09:24,520
recommendation uh that Council would
direct admin ation to suspend the

1435
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:27,760
current policy and complete a
comprehensive review of the county dust

1436
02:09:26,199 --> 02:09:31,239
control policy and bylaws and return
recommendations at the council by April

1437
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:35,800
the 1st which would give us plenty of
time to prepare for the 2025 dust

1438
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:35,800
control

1439
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:42,119
season I will change my motion to that
yes

1440
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:52,520
okay yes
yeah he likes him Rob

1441
02:09:54,280 --> 02:10:01,079
okay everybody's good with that oh first
we got to vote on bringing it off the

1442
02:09:58,719 --> 02:10:01,079
table

1443
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:12,280
correct I don't have to bring it back
okay so Dustin changes his motion to

1444
02:10:10,079 --> 02:10:17,119
what's on the
screen the motion as it reads is that

1445
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:21,000
Council direct Administration to
complete a comprehensive review of the

1446
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:26,639
Cypress County dust control policies and
violence laws and return recommendations

1447
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:31,320
to council by April 1st 2025 that's the
first meeting in

1448
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:31,320
April any

1449
02:10:32,079 --> 02:10:37,000
questions not seeing any

1450
02:10:43,119 --> 02:10:49,360
vote he had to run into town for
something I don't know if it was an

1451
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:54,679
appointment or what it
was theom

1452
02:10:52,239 --> 02:10:58,239
yeah
7.3.1 Mr

1453
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:15,920
Taves thank you Mr re through the chair
uh we're going to have um supervisor Hub

1454
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:15,920
walk us through the master rates

1455
02:11:28,239 --> 02:11:36,800
good afternoon uh through the
chair uh Master rates uh uh bylaw or

1456
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:41,760
yeah Master rates bylaw is before you
council's being presented the 2025

1457
02:11:39,239 --> 02:11:46,840
Master rate schedule the rate schedule
is presented annually and establishes

1458
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:53,199
all rates for applicable services
available including administrative

1459
02:11:49,880 --> 02:12:00,880
Agriculture and Public Works and Utility
Services the general independent rate

1460
02:11:56,320 --> 02:12:05,760
target is to re achieve cost recovery
with many rates calculated based on a

1461
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:11,760
6.5%
markup um I'm not going to go read the

1462
02:12:09,239 --> 02:12:19,280
whole thing
um uh the proposed rates that are before

1463
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:26,639
you are are aligned with the 2025 to
2029 approved budget

1464
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:30,800
and I will take any questions associated
with

1465
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:36,000
it and Steve wants to say and just one
one Amendment to the schedule um I would

1466
02:12:34,079 --> 02:12:41,559
uh recommend in the motion that we
strike the calcium chloride for

1467
02:12:39,199 --> 02:12:44,239
1462 from that schedule as that'll be
coming back to

1468
02:12:47,079 --> 02:12:53,400
council so since you're going to see it
do you want to move it

1469
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:59,960
speak considering that's what I was
going to say I will move

1470
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:59,960
it genius idea yeah heck of an

1471
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:10,239
idea okay so Blain's moving to master
master rates with the removal of what

1472
02:13:08,119 --> 02:13:17,679
number was that
14 uh with the removal of calcium

1473
02:13:12,679 --> 02:13:23,480
chloride 1462 in the schedule a
1462 okay floor is open does anybody

1474
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:23,480
have any questions on

1475
02:13:25,559 --> 02:13:32,480
these they are what they are we're doing
cost recovery not much we can do about

1476
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:43,040
it just under the gravel a 12 bucks a t
tone is that still

1477
02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:50,040
pretty giving us enough room with the
cost of how things are going crushing

1478
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:55,520
and everything is that still
adequate through the chair yes that's uh

1479
02:13:53,000 --> 02:14:02,079
about right we're seeing in a quite a
bit lower in our production costs so

1480
02:13:57,960 --> 02:14:02,079
it's it's a nice balance area for this

1481
02:14:06,800 --> 02:14:16,480
year yeah C
1462 NOP that'll come back on the

1482
02:14:13,239 --> 02:14:20,679
1 it stays in because that take that
whole thing out yeah no that'll stay in

1483
02:14:19,199 --> 02:14:25,760
because it's already a motion that it
has to go going but they're going to

1484
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:25,760
bring it back on the

1485
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:34,520
first councelor brost was asking about
the rates going up on

1486
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:40,280
475 but that's already a motion for The
Farmstead uh

1487
02:14:37,639 --> 02:14:45,360
residents yeah so that'll stay in that's
not coming out the only one coming out

1488
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:45,360
is the calcium chloride

1489
02:14:46,159 --> 02:14:53,040
1462 any other questions on
it

1490
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:06,599
vote it's
carried uh

1491
02:15:08,679 --> 02:15:15,280
7.3.2 just for a clarification uh Mr
chairman um if it would if Council would

1492
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:18,960
like they could do all three readings
today or second reading or except first

1493
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:23,760
and we can certainly bring it back my
bad no it's all it's all good no so

1494
02:15:21,559 --> 02:15:29,040
recommended first reading that blaed it
did somebody do second reading uh

1495
02:15:26,199 --> 02:15:34,639
Keith's doing second reading just a
thought sorry Mr chair if um if we end

1496
02:15:33,119 --> 02:15:38,679
up bringing back the bylaw do we just
make an amendment to the bylaw after the

1497
02:15:36,280 --> 02:15:43,280
fact once we receive the so we would
just do three readings to make Amendment

1498
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:49,559
to the bylaw later anyways
okay but this will activate everything

1499
02:15:45,679 --> 02:15:55,360
they need right now y Keith is moving
second

1500
02:15:51,679 --> 02:15:55,360
let see any questions

1501
02:15:57,800 --> 02:16:04,719
vote as carried Robins moving to have
third

1502
02:16:10,719 --> 02:16:18,119
vote that's carried and Michelle is
moving

1503
02:16:14,119 --> 02:16:18,119
third vote

1504
02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:28,320
that's carried there you go sorry about
that that was

1505
02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:33,200
my
7.3.2 Mr DAV thank you Mr chairman uh

1506
02:16:31,480 --> 02:16:38,000
we're happy to be able to present the
vehicle and Equipment disposal list to

1507
02:16:35,559 --> 02:16:42,120
council um uh Council would have
received a uh sneak peek at this while

1508
02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:47,319
approving the vehicle and Fleet
equipment replacement plan and uh from

1509
02:16:44,880 --> 02:16:51,559
that time we had uh promised Council
that we would bring it back early in

1510
02:16:49,080 --> 02:17:00,040
2025 and here we are
um so uh Mr hubard will be uh presenting

1511
02:16:56,240 --> 02:17:09,599
the RFD and uh Mr sh uh schmalz is here
for uh some technical um discussion on

1512
02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:17,120
the um uh units as they come
up through the chair um so as Steve said

1513
02:17:13,880 --> 02:17:23,960
upon approval of the Cypress um by um
Cypress city council Cypress Council

1514
02:17:19,479 --> 02:17:29,080
sorry that I'm uh dating myself now of
the capital replacement plan of 2025 to

1515
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:35,880
2029 attached is the
224 vehicle equipment listing of units

1516
02:17:33,080 --> 02:17:40,359
available for disposal while various
units are recommended for disposal the

1517
02:17:38,559 --> 02:17:46,960
Administration has included a
recommendation of units to be rained and

1518
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:57,040
further utilized internally so if you
turn to the disposal list

1519
02:17:52,479 --> 02:18:03,479
um we have we have uh one two tractors
one John Deere one

1520
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:07,920
Massie four graders and the four graders
have been replaced by new units that we

1521
02:18:05,960 --> 02:18:13,679
received in
20124 um some extrication

1522
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:18,880
tools uh these are tools that have been
replaced um with the fire service that

1523
02:18:16,679 --> 02:18:26,200
they bought in
2024 as approved in in the 2024

1524
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:29,920
budget um and also an HP design jet
t1200 GIS

1525
02:18:34,519 --> 02:18:41,800
printer yeah it was just uh the other
day two days ago I got a phone call

1526
02:18:40,439 --> 02:18:48,920
about our
graders when are they going to auction

1527
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:48,920
do you know what what they

1528
02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:56,240
roughly um I don't have an exact date
yet there are um uh auctions that we can

1529
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:59,840
look at now we just have to decide which
auction house we're going to go to and

1530
02:18:57,719 --> 02:19:03,080
and go into one of the spring ones the
ones that auction houses we've been in

1531
02:19:01,559 --> 02:19:06,800
contact with now have quite a bit of
construction equipment in them um but it

1532
02:19:05,160 --> 02:19:09,800
is the season to kind of get those in
there and they're just sitting here so

1533
02:19:08,479 --> 02:19:14,960
we just have to make that decision but
it should be right away here in

1534
02:19:11,319 --> 02:19:18,599
Spring okay so you got a month or two
right okay thank

1535
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:27,000
you play
yeah those gravel trucks just how many

1536
02:19:23,880 --> 02:19:27,000
miles are on those gravel

1537
02:19:29,080 --> 02:19:32,800
trucks the two Western

1538
02:19:42,679 --> 02:19:51,000
Stars you have something El you just add
to that do you do you dispose of them by

1539
02:19:48,319 --> 02:19:54,760
with the based on kilometers or hours
and that's just because the rap is going

1540
02:19:53,160 --> 02:20:00,560
to ask
okay it's mainly ours uh but both are

1541
02:19:58,200 --> 02:20:00,560
factored

1542
02:20:09,319 --> 02:20:16,640
in so the um excuse me through the chair
the the mileage on those units is

1543
02:20:14,040 --> 02:20:22,640
something are our uh Fleet or Public
Works can can uh we can get that

1544
02:20:18,439 --> 02:20:22,640
information do you think we could

1545
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:29,920
yeah so we can we can bring that
information at some point later on in

1546
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:35,080
the day here to council if that's okay
and are those just chassis or they the

1547
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:39,720
full box and everything on it's the full
unit the snow equipment as well the box

1548
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:39,720
everything

1549
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:47,760
everything okay any other questions oh I
forgot to get the

1550
02:20:48,439 --> 02:20:59,240
motion I'd like to hold off on voting on
this until I know the the kilometers and

1551
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:59,240
that on these to on these Western

1552
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:09,359
Stars no it makes a big to me this is
important

1553
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:12,960
Dustin we've already replaced these
trucks

1554
02:21:10,479 --> 02:21:18,120
though so these these would be assets
that have already been replaced that's

1555
02:21:14,319 --> 02:21:18,120
why they would be going up for

1556
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:25,439
auction so essentially we would have
voted on this last year to replace these

1557
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:30,160
trucks and they would have been
replacing now the this is just the

1558
02:21:26,960 --> 02:21:36,280
disposal list that we're seeing
now so uh through the chair um this the

1559
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:42,439
Western stars were previous on the
previous uh disposal list back in

1560
02:21:39,359 --> 02:21:50,680
2022 when it was proposed to buy the
trucks at that time um so they are

1561
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:54,920
currently currently on the basically
they they would be disposed when The

1562
02:21:53,319 --> 02:22:01,680
Replacements come we have three
Replacements truck coming um sometime

1563
02:21:58,680 --> 02:22:07,200
during this year so th that is the
reason why it is um the the three trucks

1564
02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:12,399
are on the in the second box Fleet
available for disposal upon upon

1565
02:22:10,120 --> 02:22:16,760
replacement so they have already been
approved for replacement we just we've

1566
02:22:15,319 --> 02:22:21,399
been hanging on to them because we
haven't received all the trucks

1567
02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:24,760
yet okay I think why everybody's asking
the questions is because we were selling

1568
02:22:22,880 --> 02:22:30,760
those with such low mileage on them at
one time we were trying to run them up

1569
02:22:27,399 --> 02:22:35,160
higher I see it's 10 years old now but
we were selling them every 5 years and

1570
02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:39,080
they had barely any miles on but part of
the question that's coming up is that do

1571
02:22:36,880 --> 02:22:43,080
we need them anywhere else if they're
really low

1572
02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:49,920
mileage that's why the question's being
asked or is a spare

1573
02:22:46,359 --> 02:22:54,720
truck so the the the third the third
Western Star truck has been pulled from

1574
02:22:52,479 --> 02:22:58,960
the list and the reason it's been pulled
from the list is because it's being used

1575
02:22:56,560 --> 02:23:04,760
by the oiling crew it's been set up in
such a way that it can take an oil tank

1576
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:08,520
and so that one of the Western Stars
we're holding back for that it we've

1577
02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:14,720
just recently done a transmission
rebuild on that for 20K the assumption

1578
02:23:11,479 --> 02:23:20,080
is that we with the transmission build
that it'll extend the life three

1579
02:23:17,399 --> 02:23:24,120
years but these ones that we're selling
here the these are the ones that we can

1580
02:23:21,359 --> 02:23:27,399
pull a box off and put a fifth wheel on
so we don't need extra trucks in the

1581
02:23:25,960 --> 02:23:31,279
summertime for
graveling that we should be keeping them

1582
02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:34,120
but these are just some of the questions
that have been popping

1583
02:23:36,479 --> 02:23:43,200
around
Richard I I only asked because I there's

1584
02:23:41,399 --> 02:23:47,560
a couple of R peers that had asked me
and I encourag them to phone public

1585
02:23:45,160 --> 02:23:51,840
works but I don't know if it happened so
um I um I really believe we have to stay

1586
02:23:50,200 --> 02:23:58,319
out of of it because we're going to have
nine different opinions on when we

1587
02:23:54,279 --> 02:24:05,200
should dispose of something uh yeah back
few years ago I think

1588
02:24:00,560 --> 02:24:11,439
maybe it it it was a situation where
they were not well used uh that's all

1589
02:24:09,640 --> 02:24:15,960
been changed and you guys have your
budgets but I do say Shane that

1590
02:24:13,800 --> 02:24:19,720
everybody would have a different number
as to what mileage they should be

1591
02:24:18,359 --> 02:24:22,359
disposed of and that's why we got to
stay out of it

1592
02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:41,080
okay while the question was asked and
you're going to find the information

1593
02:24:36,399 --> 02:24:41,080
so I haven't even got the motion yet

1594
02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:47,439
so don't no I forgot to get a

1595
02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:56,000
motion it you made the motion motion to
dispose them okay so I do have a motion

1596
02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:56,000
on the

1597
02:24:56,920 --> 02:25:07,479
floor any more questions on
it they kind of look like they know what

1598
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:12,840
they're doing H which one of
them you know I could uh and through the

1599
02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:18,279
chair I could provide a little bit more
information um we went through some uh

1600
02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:23,840
some fairly turbulent times uh beginning
in 2020 uh when when assets weren't

1601
02:25:21,279 --> 02:25:30,399
weren't available to get so uh we had to
put our minds to towards overh holding

1602
02:25:26,960 --> 02:25:34,240
uh the vehicles while we waited uh for
the for the new asset to arrive so that

1603
02:25:32,120 --> 02:25:39,040
put us out a schedule upwards of 16
months so so what we're seeing is a

1604
02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:45,800
little bit of reworking the fleet to
meet the level of surface that uh the

1605
02:25:41,279 --> 02:25:50,479
council's uh determined um also in 2020
the municipal discount went away and so

1606
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:55,960
we really need to put our minds back to
reworking that Fleet plan uh and and

1607
02:25:53,319 --> 02:26:00,520
hats off to Public Works and and and
Trevor for for being being able to be a

1608
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:04,920
little bit more current with that plan
uh and and we only anticipate tightening

1609
02:26:02,399 --> 02:26:09,439
that plan up more and more
and while we have our fingers and toes

1610
02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:14,279
crossed for the municipal discount to
return but that's kind of the state

1611
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:18,640
we're in um for example the plow trucks
are are are critical if they go down the

1612
02:26:16,960 --> 02:26:24,279
the the snow doesn't get removed from
the road so we have to kind of balance

1613
02:26:20,960 --> 02:26:30,000
that expectation of service with the the
new reality of the price prices being so

1614
02:26:26,920 --> 02:26:34,319
high to deliver that so we're um we're
on it it's not always pretty but uh but

1615
02:26:32,399 --> 02:26:40,640
we're on
it Shane did you have your hand

1616
02:26:37,720 --> 02:26:43,680
up the reason I brought about the Weston
star because I knew we could take the

1617
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:47,359
box off and put fifth wheel on Hall
gravel and it was brought up to Public

1618
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:53,600
Works before that we have spent quite a
bit of money on hiring out graveling

1619
02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:58,200
where they were going to do a report see
if it is warranted for another trailer

1620
02:26:56,160 --> 02:27:02,520
truck and trailer you know add some more
trucks to our Fleet so I was just

1621
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:06,560
wondering if it was thought of that we
may end up needing one of these and just

1622
02:27:04,399 --> 02:27:10,640
get a trailer if we already had a truck
just so we could use it during the

1623
02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:14,479
summer months for
graveling that is why I brought it

1624
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:20,680
up legitimate

1625
02:27:21,720 --> 02:27:27,040
yeah I have a motion on the floor so is
there any more comments

1626
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:30,680
on

1627
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:45,080
vote it's
carried I don't need three in good shape

1628
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:49,080
I came out of BC during snowstorm it is
1995 there

1629
02:27:55,720 --> 02:27:58,120
okay

1630
02:27:58,960 --> 02:28:06,720
7.4.1 thank you through the chair before
you is chief administrative officer

1631
02:28:04,399 --> 02:28:12,160
bylaw
20255 Administration is seeking approval

1632
02:28:09,319 --> 02:28:18,160
for chief administrative officer bylaw
201535 be replaced by the new CAO bylaw

1633
02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:28,080
20255 bylaw 202 505 significantly
expands upon the framework established

1634
02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:34,240
in the 2015 bylaw for the CAO while both
bylaws outlin cao's the cao's primary

1635
02:28:31,560 --> 02:28:38,640
role as the administrative Le leader and
adviser to council the new bylaw

1636
02:28:36,880 --> 02:28:44,520
introduces more comprehensive
responsibilities explicitly tying the

1637
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:48,479
cao's duties to compliance with various
legislative

1638
02:28:46,120 --> 02:28:53,120
acts key enhancements in the bylaw
include detailed legislation process

1639
02:28:50,920 --> 02:28:58,479
extanded powers to negotiate contracts
legal sediments and increased

1640
02:28:55,319 --> 02:29:02,680
accountability mechanisms the new bylaw
formalizes oversight and environmental

1641
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:07,560
compliance Taxation and development
agreements reflecting a more moderate

1642
02:29:05,000 --> 02:29:14,080
and detailed approach to Municipal
Administration by repealing 2020

1643
02:29:11,279 --> 02:29:19,000
201535 the updated bylaw establishes a
more robust structured and legislatively

1644
02:29:16,960 --> 02:29:22,760
aligned governance model for the cao's
role

1645
02:29:21,200 --> 02:29:26,920
the mission is to provide Regional
leadership

1646
02:29:24,439 --> 02:29:30,800
responsible responsible government and
Innovative Municipal Services

1647
02:29:28,840 --> 02:29:35,240
Administration is recommending that
bylaw

1648
02:29:32,399 --> 02:29:40,279
20255 being a bylaw of Cypress County to
establish the position of chief

1649
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:45,720
administrative officer be given first
reading and as an alternative option for

1650
02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:49,399
councel if you so choose you may pass
all three readings

1651
02:29:50,600 --> 02:30:00,000
okay thank you uh Dustin's moving
first

1652
02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:11,120
vote that's

1653
02:30:11,720 --> 02:30:20,240
carried Robin moving second I had both
heads turning different ways here Robins

1654
02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:23,240
moving second
any questions or

1655
02:30:24,040 --> 02:30:29,000
comments not seeing any

1656
02:30:32,800 --> 02:30:40,439
vote it's carried Michelle's move into
have

1657
02:30:37,439 --> 02:30:40,439
third

1658
02:30:44,560 --> 02:30:51,920
vote Carri Shane's move in
third vote

1659
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:03,720
that one's
carried okay we're on to

1660
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:19,479
7.4.2 thank you through the chair before
council is the your is the council

1661
02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:25,000
procedure bylaw Administration is
Seeking a approval for the procedure

1662
02:31:21,479 --> 02:31:29,479
bylaw 20211 be replaced by the new
Council procedure bylaw the current

1663
02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:34,040
bylaw requires updating to address
evolving governance

1664
02:31:31,120 --> 02:31:38,200
needs to incorporate modern technology
practices and provide clear and more

1665
02:31:36,319 --> 02:31:42,040
comprehensive guidelines for efficient
and transparent

1666
02:31:39,960 --> 02:31:47,920
operations bylaw
20256 introduces significant updates

1667
02:31:44,920 --> 02:31:53,000
emphasizing inclusive inclusivity
transparency and detailed government

1668
02:31:50,200 --> 02:31:57,200
governance the 25 document expands a
scope to cover meeting procedures for

1669
02:31:54,920 --> 02:32:02,439
all Council established bodies
prioritizing fairness and equality while

1670
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:05,520
the 21 document focuses more on
structuring Council and governance and

1671
02:32:04,600 --> 02:32:09,880
committee
governance notable updates in the bylaw

1672
02:32:08,160 --> 02:32:15,640
include explicit Provisions for
electronic participation live streaming

1673
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:20,439
and meeting recordings reflecting modern
technology role in governance it also

1674
02:32:18,160 --> 02:32:24,880
strengthens guidelines for public
participation ensure ensuring structured

1675
02:32:23,479 --> 02:32:31,160
time limits and
notification procedures in contrast to

1676
02:32:27,479 --> 02:32:37,319
the flexibility offered in the 2021
version other key differences include

1677
02:32:33,680 --> 02:32:41,080
enhanced rules in bylaw 20256 for
meeting scheduling cancellations and

1678
02:32:39,439 --> 02:32:45,399
public
notifications the roles of the Reeve and

1679
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:50,960
Deputy Reeve are explicitly defined as
chair and vice chair respectively while

1680
02:32:47,560 --> 02:32:56,080
the 21 document uses more broader terms
overall the 2025 document reflects a

1681
02:32:53,680 --> 02:33:00,520
more detailed transparent and
technologically integrated approach to

1682
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:06,080
council's
procedures Administration is

1683
02:33:02,560 --> 02:33:10,319
recommending that bylaw 20256 being a
bylaw of Cypress County to provide for

1684
02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:15,160
the orderly proceedings of meetings held
by Council and various boards committees

1685
02:33:13,120 --> 02:33:19,600
and other bodies established by Council
be given first reading or as the

1686
02:33:17,920 --> 02:33:23,000
previous bylaw Council may choose to
give this bylaw all three

1687
02:33:23,560 --> 02:33:33,800
readings thank
you uh Lloyd's move in first

1688
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:33,800
reading

1689
02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:46,760
vote it's carried Richards move in
second the floor is open is there any

1690
02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:53,080
questions or
Robin thank you Mr Reeve um I guess

1691
02:33:49,960 --> 02:33:55,399
question for uh our CEO um when I was
reading through and just kind of

1692
02:33:54,040 --> 02:33:58,800
skimming over this I wasn't too sure
whether or not because it wasn't we

1693
02:33:56,960 --> 02:34:02,520
weren't looking at both and so I wasn't
too sure whether we were um kind of

1694
02:34:00,960 --> 02:34:09,520
updating or if it was something that was
completely new um when it comes down to

1695
02:34:06,279 --> 02:34:13,840
Bringing uh things like technological
you know meeting attendance virtually

1696
02:34:11,720 --> 02:34:19,720
and you know we had some pretty good
stuff around um recorded meetings and

1697
02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:26,399
you know how long they were being uh
saved online or are kept for um what

1698
02:34:22,880 --> 02:34:30,800
kind of changes have we seen on that so
from the old bot to the new bylaw there

1699
02:34:28,359 --> 02:34:34,800
is no changes councelor Kirby white
actually the the retention of those

1700
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:40,439
recorded meetings and stuff is within
our um records and retention bylaw so

1701
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:43,800
nothing changes this more is surrounding
um if people wanted to submit for

1702
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:48,960
instance a public hearing that somebody
isn't able to attend that we've given

1703
02:34:46,600 --> 02:34:53,439
Provisions for them to submit their
presentation

1704
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:57,319
electronically this bylaw and also it
has a lot more procedures in it for

1705
02:34:55,040 --> 02:35:02,200
Council so it's a lot more clear for
them to provide a notice of motion and

1706
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:08,040
basically it more aligns with what we
were currently doing the previous bylaw

1707
02:35:04,880 --> 02:35:12,080
was a little bit um it uses terms that
we don't use anymore and I've found kind

1708
02:35:10,880 --> 02:35:17,479
of doing my review of other
municipalities that a lot of these older

1709
02:35:14,479 --> 02:35:21,640
bylaws are being brought back to be more
updated to what council's actually doing

1710
02:35:22,520 --> 02:35:26,319
any other questions

1711
02:35:26,439 --> 02:35:38,200
Michelle I do have one
on page 93 I think it is meeting agendas

1712
02:35:35,479 --> 02:35:42,840
um it said in there if agenda is to be
published or the agenda is to be

1713
02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:48,359
published six days prior to a meeting so
if that happens right now we like if

1714
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:52,279
we're submitting something for to be on
the agenda it has to be in the Wednesday

1715
02:35:50,080 --> 02:35:58,080
before but according to this it has to
be in like the week before so I just

1716
02:35:55,319 --> 02:36:01,439
wanted clarification on that like when
do we have to if we're submitting

1717
02:35:59,600 --> 02:36:03,920
something to the agenda when does that
have to be

1718
02:36:06,160 --> 02:36:14,520
there um yes so Council will notice that
there is going to be a little bit of a

1719
02:36:11,600 --> 02:36:19,040
um a shift we are moving our timelines
um back I would say that we're going to

1720
02:36:16,920 --> 02:36:23,319
be publishing in the agenda for example
I usually would be publishing on Friday

1721
02:36:20,760 --> 02:36:27,640
but I will be publishing the the agenda
on Wednesday so I can go through and

1722
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:32,160
highlight a couple of the the date
changes

1723
02:36:29,359 --> 02:36:36,920
but still there those timelines are
going to stay pretty much the same for

1724
02:36:34,279 --> 02:36:39,880
Council but what I'll do is I'll um put
it in an email for some of those key

1725
02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:43,560
dates I just don't have them all off the
top of my head at the moment but yeah

1726
02:36:41,960 --> 02:36:48,000
you'll see agendas coming out a lot
sooner I I was just curious and then I

1727
02:36:45,399 --> 02:36:52,960
did have another comment on page 81
under application

1728
02:36:50,279 --> 02:37:00,040
purpose and this could be just me and
not anybody else but it all my policy

1729
02:36:56,120 --> 02:37:06,359
committees it it in there it said it um
about common sense

1730
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:09,920
2.1 and I didn't think I thought don't
think that's a term we can are allowed

1731
02:37:07,800 --> 02:37:14,720
to use anymore is it because it implies
that somebody doesn't have it and we

1732
02:37:12,479 --> 02:37:19,160
can't do things like that oh my mic
wasn't even on sorry

1733
02:37:19,760 --> 02:37:28,880
there yeah know yes on page
81 page

1734
02:37:25,880 --> 02:37:28,880
81

1735
02:37:29,240 --> 02:37:38,319
2.1 I know I started on 93 and then went
back to 88 or 81 sorry but I don't mind

1736
02:37:36,560 --> 02:37:43,000
the rest of it and it could be just
immed just that Common Sense term

1737
02:37:43,960 --> 02:37:50,720
commense I mean I guess they're just
expanding on you know the spirit of

1738
02:37:47,960 --> 02:37:55,000
fairness and equality
I mean if if you would prefer that that

1739
02:37:53,160 --> 02:37:58,880
that part be struck out of the BW like
I'm not hung up on it one way or another

1740
02:37:57,080 --> 02:38:02,960
so if if you don't like it in there we
could definitely change it I really

1741
02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:07,120
don't care it just in like I said other
policy committees people have brought

1742
02:38:05,080 --> 02:38:11,880
that forward saying that it implies that
someone does not have common sense and

1743
02:38:09,319 --> 02:38:17,319
it's a derogatory term and you can't use
it anymore so me personally I I don't

1744
02:38:14,880 --> 02:38:21,800
care I use common the term common sense
all the time but

1745
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:26,120
I'm good with
it I think it should be used more

1746
02:38:27,640 --> 02:38:35,040
often Mr re members of the council just
to address councilor McKenzie's first

1747
02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:40,600
point uh we are trying to get to a place
and we're using the uh the what is not

1748
02:38:38,800 --> 02:38:46,120
going to be the second meeting in March
while council is attending RMA one of

1749
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:50,359
the things that happens is we are
rushing with limited staff to get a

1750
02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:54,560
package together at the last minute for
every council meeting we're trying to

1751
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:59,000
get ahead where for example the February
19th and it won't happen yet because we

1752
02:38:56,680 --> 02:39:02,160
haven't had that break but we're trying
to get to a point where the Feb where

1753
02:39:00,439 --> 02:39:05,880
for example the February 19th council
meeting would already be in the can

1754
02:39:03,560 --> 02:39:10,720
today ready to go there might be some
minor changes to the agenda but we're

1755
02:39:08,040 --> 02:39:16,200
trying to get two weeks ahead so we're
not uh in particular for uh for the

1756
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:20,000
municipal clerk's office where it's
crazy the last little bit and staff are

1757
02:39:18,120 --> 02:39:24,200
handing in at the last minute rfds and
counselors have last minute the requests

1758
02:39:22,359 --> 02:39:28,200
and and then of course uh you know the
agenda has to be approved by the reev we

1759
02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:34,160
are trying to use that break in March to
get two weeks ahead so staff is

1760
02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:38,160
planning in theory for a March a second
meeting in March but there will not be

1761
02:39:35,920 --> 02:39:43,800
one so that package will be in the can
so um uh so the municipal Services

1762
02:39:40,960 --> 02:39:48,840
office will always be two weeks ahead uh
so that if there is a problem or and

1763
02:39:46,479 --> 02:39:52,120
somebody it's sick somebody's on
vacation we're not going to be in a

1764
02:39:50,279 --> 02:39:56,359
panic as how we're managing that package
at the last minute and that kind of goes

1765
02:39:53,760 --> 02:40:01,359
through the question as to we can now
given that we will be ahead we can

1766
02:39:58,600 --> 02:40:06,080
publish the agenda a day or two earlier
to allow both Council and the public to

1767
02:40:03,800 --> 02:40:09,000
get a little extra time to read through
the package not just the agenda but

1768
02:40:07,680 --> 02:40:15,279
through the whole package because some
of the packages are can be quite

1769
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:15,279
large thank

1770
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:26,600
you okay any other questions on it
who move

1771
02:40:23,520 --> 02:40:31,479
second oh
com I thought he was trying to

1772
02:40:29,359 --> 02:40:35,920
vote no I I appreciate what you're
trying to do that that would help me a

1773
02:40:33,479 --> 02:40:40,640
lot because sometimes you you get busy
and and especially well I'm busy all

1774
02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:44,840
year but sometimes it gets there's a lot
of reading and if you if you attack it

1775
02:40:42,720 --> 02:40:49,439
at night you fall asleep several times
and you need an extra night or two to

1776
02:40:46,520 --> 02:40:54,640
get through it
so anyway I like the Common Sense part

1777
02:40:52,720 --> 02:40:57,840
in there I'd say go ahead and leave it
in and that's a little different the

1778
02:40:56,160 --> 02:41:01,680
packages usually keep me up at night as
supposed to put me to sleep

1779
02:41:02,040 --> 02:41:07,279
so all right second has been made

1780
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:18,680
vote carried Robins moving to have
third vot

1781
02:41:25,319 --> 02:41:31,319
Shane Lloyd's mooving
third

1782
02:41:36,720 --> 02:41:46,000
vote okay that's
carried where we going to

1783
02:41:44,080 --> 02:41:49,680
7.4.4 thank you Mr members of the
council this is regarding correspondence

1784
02:41:48,040 --> 02:41:55,399
information you'll see that there just
for everyone's reminder L use B open

1785
02:41:52,120 --> 02:42:00,399
house uh
uh oh hold on I'm

1786
02:41:58,000 --> 02:42:03,399
sorry pending
councel

1787
02:42:05,359 --> 02:42:12,800
all I think we jumped one there didn't
we

1788
02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:15,600
yes oh that's okay that's your one one
leeway for the

1789
02:42:17,399 --> 02:42:23,200
year yeah I don't believe there's any um
no motion is required on this one it

1790
02:42:21,479 --> 02:42:27,000
it's just more for council's information
and if there's anything that they wanted

1791
02:42:25,200 --> 02:42:30,600
to bring light to but these are just the
ones that um that staff is still

1792
02:42:29,040 --> 02:42:36,439
currently working on and we come back to
a future meeting or a committee of a

1793
02:42:33,399 --> 02:42:43,640
whole or do you want a motion receiving
for information no no okay all right

1794
02:42:40,479 --> 02:42:48,600
then we will go to Mr Hogan then uh
thank you just a reminder for uh Council

1795
02:42:45,880 --> 02:42:51,880
uh the land use bylaw open houses uh one
on the fifth

1796
02:42:49,960 --> 02:42:56,319
uh tomorrow between 4: and 8 p.m.
Saturday at the irvan resource center

1797
02:42:53,560 --> 02:43:02,560
between 10:00 a.m. and 2: p.m. uh there
is a uh Council lunch and invite to the

1798
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:09,120
Southfield Community Center uh and uh
and an au update the um ala link update

1799
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:14,080
and Au update um for your reading
pleasure as

1800
02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:14,080
well

1801
02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:19,520
okay do we need a motion on this one

1802
02:43:20,560 --> 02:43:28,720
yes to accept it if I could just get um
Council to maybe if you could um just

1803
02:43:26,080 --> 02:43:37,200
straw vote or maybe decide on a date for
the when you'd like to go out to

1804
02:43:32,720 --> 02:43:41,920
safield or I can send it in an email
with I can do any date 21st

1805
02:43:44,600 --> 02:43:52,880
February it'll be over by the 20th it's
17th 19th or something

1806
02:43:50,680 --> 02:43:57,240
or would you prefer that I did it in I
mean I guess our Council meetings are

1807
02:43:55,240 --> 02:44:02,920
getting a bit full I know previously we
did it in conjunction with the council

1808
02:43:58,920 --> 02:44:02,920
meeting but I don't think it's going to

1809
02:44:05,359 --> 02:44:12,760
work or is that kind of tough for
Council do you want me to ask him for

1810
02:44:09,960 --> 02:44:16,760
some more dates in April and May
maybe when things slow down for

1811
02:44:17,479 --> 02:44:25,399
you no
March 6 or 7th because that's right

1812
02:44:22,800 --> 02:44:33,120
before caving and that and after that we
get into Cav season seating and busy

1813
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:33,120
time

1814
02:44:36,319 --> 02:44:42,560
17th so you have a council meeting on
the

1815
02:44:39,640 --> 02:44:46,399
4th then the 6th is the Thursday the
7eventh is the Friday

1816
02:44:51,800 --> 02:44:58,240
well I'd say the seventh Friday because
if if they're having fish it's always

1817
02:44:55,840 --> 02:44:58,240
fish on

1818
02:44:59,720 --> 02:45:09,560
Fridays I don't care sounds like common
sense to

1819
02:45:04,319 --> 02:45:09,560
me minute I'm G my son

1820
02:45:20,840 --> 02:45:28,920
if you like I can send it out to Council
in an email and you guys can I can give

1821
02:45:25,359 --> 02:45:31,880
you the choice of the sixth or the 7th
and then you can get back to

1822
02:45:32,600 --> 02:45:39,200
me sure that's what you want or set it
for or set it

1823
02:45:41,720 --> 02:45:45,200
today you guys

1824
02:45:45,560 --> 02:45:54,960
pick it's a Friday may not be here
I won't I won't

1825
02:45:51,760 --> 02:45:54,960
be and

1826
02:45:58,520 --> 02:46:08,000
Reeves you pick the 7th March
7th Friday

1827
02:46:08,120 --> 02:46:16,479
Friday okay Friday March
7th thank you yeah and then I'll just

1828
02:46:14,520 --> 02:46:21,760
ask for a motion to accept the
correspondents and items for information

1829
02:46:19,399 --> 02:46:24,760
blae is making that motion
sure

1830
02:46:31,479 --> 02:46:35,840
vote Mr Hawk can you vote

1831
02:46:37,920 --> 02:46:47,200
please
really that's

1832
02:46:42,880 --> 02:46:53,200
carried read from counsel
reports obviously was on holidays so I

1833
02:46:50,399 --> 02:47:00,560
don't have much to
report it was an expensive

1834
02:46:56,920 --> 02:47:05,680
holiday uh Dustin we'll start with
you yeah I'm kind of in the same boat I

1835
02:47:03,920 --> 02:47:09,040
got lots of sun and I went skiing but I
haven't done very much County stuff so

1836
02:47:07,760 --> 02:47:14,760
I'll
pass

1837
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:19,359
Keith okay in addition to council went
to the egg Service Board conference in

1838
02:47:17,920 --> 02:47:23,920
Edmonton
a lot of good um

1839
02:47:22,279 --> 02:47:32,240
speakers
um everything from cootes to pigs

1840
02:47:27,200 --> 02:47:36,200
to drones and mental health lot lots of
good presenters so I really enjoyed that

1841
02:47:38,120 --> 02:47:47,000
conference I had a nice tour with uh our
new CEO there a week in a b go uh had a

1842
02:47:44,479 --> 02:47:51,760
good time uh good good conversations and
toured them around w before and uh we

1843
02:47:49,800 --> 02:47:55,000
had a chance to go and have a peek at
some of the stuff that prayer Rose was

1844
02:47:53,359 --> 02:48:00,240
doing over at their Academy building and
and talk planes and all that fun stuff

1845
02:47:58,000 --> 02:48:04,960
uh I did have one phone call that came
in that I wanted to run by councel and

1846
02:48:01,960 --> 02:48:09,399
see um what if you know what kind of
direction we want to take with it but

1847
02:48:06,439 --> 02:48:13,560
it's with regards to um some of the elk
issues um that some of our ranchers out

1848
02:48:11,560 --> 02:48:16,760
in the hills are dealing with right now
Lloyd you listening because this one I

1849
02:48:15,479 --> 02:48:20,960
think I need to get your thoughts on
this one too so um had a call from one

1850
02:48:19,479 --> 02:48:27,200
one of the ranches out in the the
elkwater area and you don't believe it

1851
02:48:25,000 --> 02:48:32,040
but just specifically though about um
what can the county do with regards to

1852
02:48:30,160 --> 02:48:36,840
um you know damages and things like that
that some of the elk do and I I'm not

1853
02:48:34,399 --> 02:48:40,640
personally Familiar of any kind of
precedent although I know with the with

1854
02:48:38,880 --> 02:48:45,399
the base there's been a lot of stuff
that happens out there there's you know

1855
02:48:42,359 --> 02:48:50,880
there's a lot of different kinds of
programs that exist that deal with pests

1856
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:55,080
and damages that are done and so what I
mentioned to this this Rancher was you

1857
02:48:52,560 --> 02:48:57,520
know I would I'd bring it by Council um
I think that there's a couple of

1858
02:48:56,040 --> 02:49:00,200
different potentials that we have one
maybe that it goes to the egg Service

1859
02:48:58,960 --> 02:49:04,200
Board I don't know if the egg Service
Board would have any kind of

1860
02:49:01,840 --> 02:49:08,600
conversation about that or maybe what we
do is um you know we can I can send an

1861
02:49:06,399 --> 02:49:12,319
email to our CEO and just say Hey listen
this is the what I got and we can

1862
02:49:10,319 --> 02:49:16,600
perhaps look into any kind of
resolutions that maybe RMA has currently

1863
02:49:14,560 --> 02:49:23,120
to see if there's something that could
be done but to me it was a a a valid

1864
02:49:20,520 --> 02:49:26,520
concern that I I imagine I bring forward
and kind of see where we want to

1865
02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:38,800
go he was sleeping through it no he was
he was okay

1866
02:49:35,560 --> 02:49:43,760
Lloyd so I'm gathering he's this branch
is complaining about his crop or his

1867
02:49:40,760 --> 02:49:47,840
fences yeah was he said that there's
already um programs that exist or the

1868
02:49:46,640 --> 02:49:51,720
insurance that you can get if they get
into your Hast stack that help with some

1869
02:49:49,840 --> 02:49:56,800
of that but some of it was crops some of
it was fences and uh and just kind of

1870
02:49:54,239 --> 02:50:01,600
asking what what the county could do and
I know from my experience on Council you

1871
02:49:59,239 --> 02:50:05,319
know what the county may do is much
different than say what the province

1872
02:50:03,399 --> 02:50:09,479
might do if you know if there's programs
but I don't really have any experience

1873
02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:14,920
in this so I'm kind of laying it out
there to see if anybody I'm sure he

1874
02:50:11,000 --> 02:50:19,680
knows and but uh the fish and wildlife
have a of a program that if the elk are

1875
02:50:17,080 --> 02:50:24,720
coming into your haast stack they will
bring you a

1876
02:50:21,479 --> 02:50:32,439
fence um a chain link fence but you put
it up and you can claim damages to the

1877
02:50:28,960 --> 02:50:40,600
federal or provincial government but
county has no programs that I'm aware of

1878
02:50:37,520 --> 02:50:48,359
out there and yeah any damage that they
do you can actually file

1879
02:50:44,359 --> 02:50:48,359
claims so

1880
02:50:52,840 --> 02:50:59,080
I have one of the biggest herds and I
got pictures of it of a heard of over

1881
02:50:57,399 --> 02:51:04,239
200 on my
property there is

1882
02:51:01,200 --> 02:51:10,920
no sure I wish there was ways to collect
for fense damage and that but the deer

1883
02:51:06,880 --> 02:51:15,319
do it the snow does it and that you can
try to go through fish and wildlife but

1884
02:51:13,239 --> 02:51:19,800
for County it's not our responsibility I
wish it was I mean I'd file right

1885
02:51:17,120 --> 02:51:24,040
tomorrow but it's not
it's fish and wildlife it's not a county

1886
02:51:22,319 --> 02:51:27,800
thing because if we look at Elk then
we've got to look at deer anal all the

1887
02:51:26,239 --> 02:51:34,880
way right down to a
gopher you know it's we got to draw the

1888
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:40,680
line I wish there was but I got pictures
of the herd of 200 the hunter said there

1889
02:51:37,239 --> 02:51:40,680
was 214 head in that

1890
02:51:42,680 --> 02:51:50,520
herd there yeah well you brought it up
that's that's your answer okay

1891
02:51:50,880 --> 02:51:57,200
BL yeah same as Keith said I was at the
ASB conference and yeah there was uh

1892
02:51:55,560 --> 02:52:02,120
really good speakers there and enjoyed
them all talking about the various

1893
02:51:58,960 --> 02:52:05,920
topics um also had a library meeting on
the 23rd of

1894
02:52:03,840 --> 02:52:10,479
January and also happy to report that
Iran Resource Center had a party for

1895
02:52:09,040 --> 02:52:16,239
their first anniversary and they had
about 60 70 people there had cake and

1896
02:52:13,319 --> 02:52:19,200
stuff and and was very well attended and
everybody seems to be really happy with

1897
02:52:17,680 --> 02:52:22,120
the facility they're
gaining their the staff is doing an

1898
02:52:21,080 --> 02:52:27,120
excellent job with some of their
programming with the kids and stuff and

1899
02:52:24,200 --> 02:52:32,399
and uh you know gaining new memberships
all the time so things are proceeding

1900
02:52:29,560 --> 02:52:37,840
quite well in that uh
building

1901
02:52:34,760 --> 02:52:44,640
Richard uh Friday January 17th I
attended the Foothills little bll

1902
02:52:39,399 --> 02:52:50,359
meeting in leftridge um passed some um
resolutions um one that didn't go

1903
02:52:47,080 --> 02:52:55,120
through was uh one of the
municipalities suggested that we only

1904
02:52:52,640 --> 02:53:02,920
have a meeting once a year in Edmonton
and uh oh sorry RMA meeting in Edmonton

1905
02:52:58,479 --> 02:53:09,200
yes and um uh have the other one by Zoom
but most of us struggle with zoom as far

1906
02:53:06,560 --> 02:53:16,840
as the clarity so anyway that didn't go
through and then um attended a Community

1907
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:22,600
Foundation entore meeting on the
22nd 23rd I did a zoom meeting with milk

1908
02:53:20,399 --> 02:53:28,880
River Watershed Council just CU roads
were crapping what it's a tough way to

1909
02:53:25,439 --> 02:53:33,160
participate in a meeting so um I I try
not to do that but sometimes that 2hour

1910
02:53:31,000 --> 02:53:39,000
drive down another two hours back is
just a it's a tough one with weather on

1911
02:53:36,359 --> 02:53:45,840
uh Friday January 24th I represented
Cyprus County at the college Mr and Mrs

1912
02:53:42,479 --> 02:53:52,279
Yu made a $5 million donation to the
college this money will be used to see

1913
02:53:48,600 --> 02:53:58,359
and enhance capacity and programming for
Health Care students it was suggested

1914
02:53:55,359 --> 02:54:03,920
there would be uh could be an initial
200 seats in high demand healthc care

1915
02:54:01,279 --> 02:54:09,520
programs so the county was invited to
participate and Dan was on holidays so I

1916
02:54:07,880 --> 02:54:16,920
uh filled in for
him on Sunday in the afternoon I was a

1917
02:54:13,399 --> 02:54:26,040
judge at the S persons um Community Hall
um 4 club and I like going to those I I

1918
02:54:22,120 --> 02:54:30,319
I wear my name tag and cuz not everybody
knows you and I get to talk to a lot of

1919
02:54:27,920 --> 02:54:37,600
rars and there was a lot of positive
stuff you know the odd question about a

1920
02:54:33,080 --> 02:54:42,840
road maybe or a procedure but uh it's
it's a it's a good it's just another way

1921
02:54:40,760 --> 02:54:46,720
of getting out into the community and
and talking to some people that normally

1922
02:54:44,560 --> 02:54:50,680
wouldn't phone you and or send you an
email so um

1923
02:54:48,920 --> 02:54:53,680
yeah that's it thank
you

1924
02:54:54,279 --> 02:55:02,399
Michelle the last council meeting was on
January 14th

1925
02:54:58,960 --> 02:55:06,080
right okay then I had a short grass
meeting on the

1926
02:55:03,600 --> 02:55:10,279
15th and I haven't been to one of those
because it's been conflicting with other

1927
02:55:07,560 --> 02:55:15,479
meetings for quite some time so we we
had nominated a new board well it's the

1928
02:55:13,359 --> 02:55:20,560
same board but you know did all the
nominations and everything at that one

1929
02:55:17,560 --> 02:55:25,760
then on the 16th I had a Cypress View
meeting on the 17th went to Lethbridge

1930
02:55:23,720 --> 02:55:32,359
for Foothills little blow bow and it was
a very long painful drive cuz it was

1931
02:55:29,279 --> 02:55:36,560
really ugly outside but we made it and
then I got to spend the week in a cabin

1932
02:55:33,840 --> 02:55:41,439
in a hot tub it was lovely and since
then oh on Friday I did a virtual

1933
02:55:38,560 --> 02:55:45,439
meeting with fcss AA which was supposed
to be in person but apparently it snowed

1934
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:51,479
somewhere else in the province and we
couldn't have it in person we had to do

1935
02:55:48,080 --> 02:55:53,640
it virtually so I did that and yeah that
was

1936
02:55:55,279 --> 02:56:07,120
it mine was uh for meetings was pretty
slow just uh the library meeting I was

1937
02:56:03,080 --> 02:56:13,200
just going to say that uh they
have

1938
02:56:08,880 --> 02:56:19,279
153 memberships in uh last year before
it opened they only had

1939
02:56:15,560 --> 02:56:24,560
37 so it's really growing and there and
they really are doing a fantastic job

1940
02:56:21,560 --> 02:56:32,319
it's great so I went to the uh elat
Community Association meeting on

1941
02:56:27,840 --> 02:56:42,720
Sunday and uh learned that from
Dylan that the uh fire smart program for

1942
02:56:36,640 --> 02:56:49,040
the um fire guards is uh no not going
ahead no they were doing

1943
02:56:46,680 --> 02:56:54,520
35 hectares
the company that was doing

1944
02:56:51,319 --> 02:57:00,040
it uh whether they didn't know what El
quar was like during the winter or not

1945
02:56:56,399 --> 02:57:07,000
pulled out they only did six hectares
and uh said they couldn't handle the

1946
02:57:04,279 --> 02:57:12,720
weather so they have left they canceled
the contract walked away from it so what

1947
02:57:10,439 --> 02:57:18,239
they did with the money they were able
to get it

1948
02:57:14,160 --> 02:57:22,399
transferred so uh there's a company
different company that's doing a fires

1949
02:57:20,359 --> 02:57:28,600
smart program in the
townsite and they got 37 days to cut

1950
02:57:25,520 --> 02:57:35,560
trees down so apparently when they've
done their trees they're going to extend

1951
02:57:31,840 --> 02:57:39,880
the um sprinkler line and try and get it
over because right now the sprinkler

1952
02:57:37,800 --> 02:57:45,520
just covers pretty well all the Seventh
Avenue in the trees there and so there's

1953
02:57:42,720 --> 02:57:51,160
nothing to the West like for fire rock
or uh that area in there the group camps

1954
02:57:49,279 --> 02:57:57,160
so my understanding is they're going to
try and uh do that area and then put

1955
02:57:54,160 --> 02:57:59,880
another sprinkler system in depending on
the budget

1956
02:57:59,960 --> 02:58:05,279
so and that's uh pretty all that's
what's

1957
02:58:06,200 --> 02:58:15,359
new
Shane oh had uh went to the egg Service

1958
02:58:13,120 --> 02:58:19,279
Board convention like bla and Keith said
we had some really good speakers L this

1959
02:58:17,200 --> 02:58:25,080
year
I attended the Royal crime watch meeting

1960
02:58:22,439 --> 02:58:29,359
the other night and I really
wish her fellow counselor uh Richard

1961
02:58:28,239 --> 02:58:33,640
Oster would have been there because
there was a really good

1962
02:58:31,399 --> 02:58:39,399
presentation on how seniors are being
taken advantage of on scams both on by

1963
02:58:37,720 --> 02:58:43,920
phone and by
internet and I feel he would have really

1964
02:58:42,080 --> 02:58:49,359
got a benefit from that because it is
becoming a

1965
02:58:45,840 --> 02:58:56,239
really big issue and I thought about you
sir and not I wish you would have been

1966
02:58:52,000 --> 02:59:01,200
there also at the meeting our fire
chief did a very good very good

1967
02:58:59,479 --> 02:59:09,160
presentation to
everybody and he presented uh an award

1968
02:59:05,080 --> 02:59:13,920
to past counselor and past firman uh
Gary Lance for his years of contribution

1969
02:59:11,640 --> 02:59:19,560
to the fire department because he was
one of the originals that there and did

1970
02:59:17,399 --> 02:59:26,560
gave him a nice back and he was
very surprised at it and he was very

1971
02:59:23,560 --> 02:59:31,120
appreciative also uh the Royal crime
watch now wereare include County of new

1972
02:59:29,279 --> 02:59:38,120
and 40 mile in
Cyprus and we had a presentation from

1973
02:59:34,479 --> 02:59:43,439
RCMP out of bizo out of Brooks out of Bo
Island and out of Madison hat all four

1974
02:59:40,920 --> 02:59:49,800
detachments were there and did a
presentation and so was quite

1975
02:59:47,040 --> 02:59:56,760
good also I attended it was nice to see
I want to

1976
02:59:51,359 --> 03:00:03,040
give it's nice to see some of our
old oh what to say ranchers pure bread

1977
03:00:00,120 --> 03:00:07,920
breeders bla there he had
a there used to be a lot of perer bed

1978
03:00:05,640 --> 03:00:13,720
breeders in our area of Herford cattle
now we're only down to two it's nice to

1979
03:00:10,160 --> 03:00:18,120
see that bla is continuing on that rep
there and had an excellent sale where

1980
03:00:15,800 --> 03:00:24,279
cattle sold from to all over Western can
in the states and it was nice to see

1981
03:00:21,319 --> 03:00:27,359
certain businesses prosper in our County
that it would become dying because that

1982
03:00:26,200 --> 03:00:31,800
I counted one day when I was doing
shorts I think there was nine or 10 peer

1983
03:00:29,399 --> 03:00:37,960
bed readers now we're down to two you
know I was dwindled but you had a good

1984
03:00:34,439 --> 03:00:44,319
one there bla sir keep up the good work
and uh few phone calls about roads and

1985
03:00:42,319 --> 03:00:48,239
one about what is our greater do in
driving around when it's all ice on the

1986
03:00:46,319 --> 03:00:53,800
roads and I said I'll talk to publica
Works about

1987
03:00:49,520 --> 03:00:57,680
that and no that was about
it any questions on the

1988
03:00:57,760 --> 03:01:05,680
reports sh that's not a question on the
report but I did forget to add something

1989
03:01:03,319 --> 03:01:10,080
I attended the state of the city address
with Mr Hogan one day Shane was supposed

1990
03:01:08,200 --> 03:01:16,120
to be there but he didn't come for some
reason and yeah it was good I thought

1991
03:01:14,200 --> 03:01:19,880
actually it was pretty short notice when
Richard phoned me and I kind kind of

1992
03:01:18,120 --> 03:01:23,359
figured that I was going to be have his
name tag and I was going to be Richard

1993
03:01:21,319 --> 03:01:27,800
Oster for the day but our lovely
leslianne was on it and I had my own

1994
03:01:25,520 --> 03:01:27,800
name

1995
03:01:38,640 --> 03:01:46,680
tag okay any questions on the reports go
with

1996
03:01:43,399 --> 03:01:49,680
senior little bit you don't remember
though

1997
03:01:50,479 --> 03:01:53,439
Richard's moving the

1998
03:01:53,680 --> 03:01:57,800
reports I think so

1999
03:02:01,080 --> 03:02:10,600
vote it's carried okay we'll take a
two-minute break and then we will or do

2000
03:02:07,840 --> 03:02:15,920
you want to go in camera first last or
we'll go in as soon as we come back take

2001
03:02:12,920 --> 03:02:15,920
a