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I just want to call

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you pardon us for the uh technical issue

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with the streaming we are now uh back

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have we has anybody called anything no

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okay so this is a special call meeting

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of the commissioner Court it is now 8:45

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again sorry for the technical

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difficulties all Commissioners are here

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all notices have been duly posted and

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the court is duly called is there a

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motion to open court someone moved

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second all those in favor signify by

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saying I I I available please open court

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all rise Dallas County Commissioner's

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Court special call meeting is now in

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session The Honorable Kay Lewis Jenkins

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presiding you may be

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seated and I didn't think I said so but

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the motion was unanimous to open court

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and so thank you all our only matter

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before us is the

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RFP on a two-year service agreement with

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three one-year renewal options for EO

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books is there a motion and a second on

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that so we can open discussion so move

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second all right

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uh the has been motioned and seconded I

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know commissioner price has some uh

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questions as we all do okay sounds like

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everybody does so maybe just well I'm

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waiting for information still I it ask

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for

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information with regards to the scoring

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and I'll take it that purchasing has

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that I generated that um in addition to

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um so he'll wait for a minute let me ask

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a couple and I'll see what the

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Commissioners have um I I think you may

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have answered my my question but I want

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you to run through it if you

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would um I understand that of course

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understand esns has been decertified and

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so we're this is somewhat of a

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hypothetical because they're desertified

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but if they weren't and we continued on

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with the

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esns uh

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product um at the end of

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that contract that we entered into we

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would incur a certain amount of money if

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we go to no um

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Inc we at the end of the the five years

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we will incur a certain amount of money

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taking into account the states

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80% can you walk us through what the

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Delta to that is

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so I know you had that question um what

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I did was I

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took all the money we spent an esns

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since 2019 to uh 2020 basically to 2024

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that fiveyear span and I compared it to

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the five-year contract we would be we're

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putting in front of you right uh since

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20 since the first contract in

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2019 and all the maintenance support

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contracts we've renewed and extended

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with the as we spent in Hardware

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software license and maintenance right

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the the items that are similar and let's

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say an a man 8.6

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million um if you take the contract in

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front of you and you count Hardware

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license and software basically uh don't

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include those optional items listed

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there those optional support hours right

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compare Hardware software and uh

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maintenance sorry that that would be 10

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.5 million so the difference between

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those two is about $1.8 million that is

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just net numbers right the goal here is

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to get back uh about four or five

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million doll from that state Grant from

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the state you know that that Grant from

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the state that reimbursement for the

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number of units they say they'll pay for

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that we used in November uh but worst

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case scenario like just comparing the

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two fiveyear contracts uh there's a

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there's a difference of $1.8 million

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which is about 20 21% okay and that is

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assuming the state pays their 80% corre

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that is without assuming assuming we're

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not going to get a single Petty right

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just raw numbers I want you to assume

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the state pays the 80% and answer it

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also give me two minutes and I'll give

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you that answer but regardless the state

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regardless of either one it'll be the

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same with the state the de the Delta is

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1.8 this is $1.8 million dollar more yes

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sir yeah I I get it that I don't think

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it is with the state 80% yes it is it'd

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be the same with the state I mean when

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the state comes in it's going it's the

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same I didn't I didn't get that part

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sorry sorry let me well I'm not asking

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how much the state's out I'm kind of

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selfishly asking about our local tax

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dollars $1.8 million that's what he just

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said they said with is $1.8 million more

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Mr more more than again this is

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comparing the five year ago contract to

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this year year and I actually Googled up

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the inflation since 2019 has been

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23% we're actually under the inflation

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rate if you actually want to compare the

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two I'm not critical trying to get my

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head around um so with the state paying

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80% it's this mess by esns is 1.8

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million right yes okay so if you know

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just because I think the question may

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come up and because we're all rushing to

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get this done so the other bidder was

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votc do we know if we had a chosen votc

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what that Delta would be from from uh

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esns I believe their price was higher

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actually a little higher so in the ball

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park of couple million or something 1.9

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maybe 1.9 okay two so uh so basically

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are you saying it's uh 100 thou they

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they're they're basically the same 1.8

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1.9 yes sir the other solution was

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around but right now votch is basically

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grining our system doesn't matter who we

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choose they're going to have to they're

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going to have to hook up the votech is

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that correct they're going to have to

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what they're going to have to be part of

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the conversion for votte votch is is in

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our system vot is the incumbent the

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provider of a voter registration system

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exactly uh now are you getting ready to

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do a forceable entry detainer they're

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not going anywhere are they their

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contract ends at the end of this year

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will we go will be going out soon for an

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RFP on a voter red system sir well not

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talking about real soon th this this

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this hurry up is about May right yes sir

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okay votch is in right votte is not in

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vtek does voter registration system they

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have no part in poll books I get that

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but they do have pole book I'm sorry it

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did make an offer yes okay they did not

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make an offer they did make an offer

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okay and the difference between their

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offer and this Inc system was basically

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do what $100,000 $100,000 I don't

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remember the number I said that off the

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top of my head do we we have an exact

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number on

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that they're they're in the ballpark let

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me yeah can I ask yeah I don't want to

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interrupt your train of thought there so

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for because I had some people ask me

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some Precinct chairs asked me um and if

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you could in case they're watching just

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answer this uh question so why couldn't

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we all just wait for esns and see if

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they get certified and I know the answer

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to this but if you could tell us we

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could but we can't promise you they'll

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get certified right A certification has

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to go they have to go in with their

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technical Team U they're still doing

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regression testing the last update they

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gave us they're still testing what

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they're going to submit um so right

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now I don't know if they're done testing

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and they're like already know that they

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are ready to submit right which is what

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you would think first you test then you

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you're ready and then you submit for

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testing um the risk there is what if

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they don't pass they have a date of

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3D say it takes a week week and a half

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to test certified produc the report

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we're looking at mid-march we're about a

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week away from starting pole worker

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training if that day the answer is oops

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they didn't pass we're dead there is

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there's no no longer an option to do

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anything if you wait all the way down to

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March votch is already certified and so

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is knowing sir okay I get that and

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knowing is in one County in this state

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how many state how many places vot take

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I'm sorry you said KN is knowing is in

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one county knink is in multiple counties

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probably about maybe a third of the are

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you talking I'm not talking about

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comparable counting I'm talking about

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Dent I'm talking about by tan where you

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came from yes sir the one County they

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have that one Urban county is that

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correct in the state of Texas yes in the

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state of Texas I'm not talking about

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what's going on in New York in

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Pennsylvania I know they're in

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Pennsylvania some of us have done some

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homework when I'm not going to be

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steered with regards to that

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votte is certified is that correct they

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both are sir yes no I didn't ask you

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about is votch certified yes sir votch

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is in right now we have votte we have a

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vo by votte they have nothing to do with

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poll books I I get that we have nothing

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with knowing right now correct correct

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we okay but votech we do we have the

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voter registration system yes okay we

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have the voter

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registration if for some reason we had

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to do and by the way I have terent

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County's contract about the

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conversion if you do knowing do you does

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votch have to do conversion

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what do you mean conversion well

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conversion it's not their system are

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they going to have to do do do

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conversion uh to to to get to to use our

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system I I don't know what you mean by

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do a conversion sir I am sorry well you

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had to do it in Taran County uh for uh

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this and you yeah I guess you were you

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were there I I was there I okay so they

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they had to go and conversion was a

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challenge for them

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in in in Teran

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County yes I mean I I wasn't there when

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they actually deployed it that was the

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time when I left but if you say I'll

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well no no this is a contract if you

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need to read it my point is is that the

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votex system they're going to have to do

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and I've got a a ton of questions here

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um did did we contact any CS with

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regards to vote safe and their pole Book

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Solutions there I don't know if uh

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purchas and checked those references I

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believe we

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did you you reached out to

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what what were the three

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did you so Cook County Illinois is one

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of

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them I apologize uh Cook County Illinois

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okay yes sir uh State of Rhode Island

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what was the third and uh Clark County

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Nevada which did not respond in time for

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us to CLK I talked to Clark County last

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night knowing they got knowing Inc yeah

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they no I I talked about

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vot no said vot sorry if I may I I

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believe

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VOD him he's not asking you about who

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you just talk to for no ink he's asking

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you who did you talk to for votch is

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that right we yeah we both misunderstood

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yes sir I'm sorry I apologize uh we did

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not reach out 21 for bch say bch is not

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be recommended so when you reached out

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to to cook it was cook and wrot the

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entire state of root that's what you

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said Cook County Illinois s Chicago Cook

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County Illinois yeah so who did you

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reach out to at Cook County their

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elections administrator um it would have

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been uh their elections representative

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and what did they say uh we sent up a

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series of questions and they were all

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favorable okay right can can I ask a

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question back on the first question that

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was asked on the dollars I didn't quite

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follow you there in terms of the Delta

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difference on the cost I didn't quite

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get the math as to how that all worked

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out let me ask you a series of questions

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question then maybe that'll answer it if

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that's okay yes sir so um we will have

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an initial outlay of dollars to actually

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purchase this equipment that we would

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not have if we stayed with esns but that

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initial outlay will be deferred by the

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state is that correct or in part yes

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okay and it's to the tune of 80% of the

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original outlay of dollars for the

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hardware itself or the system itself is

301
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that corre correct Hardware the way the

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grant reads is the same number of

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devices that were used in November 2024

304
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they will reimburses up to that amount

305
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gotcha that's regardless right I

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understand all right now the 20%

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difference is there a chance that the

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state will make up that through other

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grants yes and I was what I was looking

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at you in scrolling is because I wanted

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to get that number the judge asked and

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it's relevant to your question um we use

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3,150 52 units in

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November the cost of that on this

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contract is

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4.3 4.4 million that's what that's the

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Target to get reimbursed State said

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we'll do 80% you do 20 but they also

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said for your 20 matching you are

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allowed to use what we call chapter 19

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which is a grant the state has been

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giving us for years and we've been

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building up we have enough to match

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almost 90% of those four million which

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would basically leave us with about I

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think

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$300,000 100 somewhere between $2 and

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$300,000 to finish making that my intent

329
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is if you do the award to take the money

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that was allocated for the esns annual

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license the 400,000 and use that to

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finish supplementing so that uh we use

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all the free money we've gotten from the

334
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state and you we use minimal money of

335
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the general fund to get those uh $3,000

336
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152 okay so the I'm sorry if I could no

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no go ah all right so the the hardware

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dollar

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outlay we will have an additional cost

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of some amount for the initial outlay

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for the uh equipment that we're getting

342
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from no is that right yes okay and that

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amount is about $300

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$400,000 after all the grants that you

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just corre outlined then in addition to

346
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those dollars there is a contract cost

347
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associated with um the the ongoing

348
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software updates and um service

349
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agreements is that correct yes sir all

350
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right good uh now there is a Delta here

351
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as I understand it between no and esns

352
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is that correct yes sir with an

353
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increased cost for the no contract is

354
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that correct correct and how many

355
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dollars is that is that the 1.8

356
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no let me ask the question what's the

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Delta between the annual license after

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we do all the hardw proc yes we were

359
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paying esns

360
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$450,000 a year this contract

361
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is if you take the optionals out to 50

362
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to 90 that's about $1 million a year

363
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600,000 Delta yes sir got it okay so

364
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plus an eight plus whatever the dollars

365
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are to get the original Hardware in

366
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correct and that's the amount that that

367
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doesn't equal 1.8 though where I come I

368
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,120
was wondering where that 1.8 came from

369
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that 1.8 is again if you take the cost

370
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of buying esns is hardware and the five

371
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years of licenses that we paid and you

372
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take this contract and you take the

373
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price of the hardware and the fiveyear

374
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licenses the difference between those

375
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two numbers is 1.8 got it so five year

376
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to fiveyear contract this one is 1.8

377
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more than what we have actually spent

378
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year on year Dollar on Dollar in the SNS

379
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,200
four or five years gotcha but the state

380
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will defer some of those dollars without

381
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exactly without deducting the four $4

382
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million you expect to be back so at that

383
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:39,520
point we're saving all right let me go

384
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back to my math question then given that

385
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the state will give us grants to the

386
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tune of probably 90% you know total

387
00:25:48,159 --> 00:25:52,440
total and there's a delta in the cost of

388
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,159
the maintenance agreements how many more

389
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dollars is the no contract after that

390
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state is deducted and everything else

391
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,720
how many Delta dollars are

392
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there the 300,000 to finish year one

393
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,840
okay and then every year after that 1

394
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Point 900,000 900,000 so about 1.2 milon

395
00:26:15,399 --> 00:26:19,240
1 million so about 1.3 is the Delta is

396
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,159
that correct no you're saying for year

397
00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:24,320
one no for a year one it's only the

398
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300,000 okay for five covering that and

399
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,520
then every year after that it's the $1

400
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million which is 600 more than than than

401
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,159
what we would have but you just got

402
00:26:35,159 --> 00:26:37,480
through saying regardless I don't you

403
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,080
know you can do the math any of them

404
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,320
it's about yeah it's the same I it's the

405
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,360
same regardless of votch or uh the Inc

406
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,240
contract I didn't do the exercise with

407
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,080
the vendor that is not on the table to

408
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,919
be awarded but my recollection is the

409
00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:58,600
both offers were similar and full value

410
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,279
of the contract now the breakdown inside

411
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:03,360
I cannot tell you if BK was $1 million a

412
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,880
year or if it was $100 a year and there

413
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,279
was just a lot of money on Hardware I'd

414
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:08,960
have to go back and look at the numbers

415
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,320
do we have to have any other

416
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,120
devices uh to purchase to recommend

417
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,000
these EO books

418
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,120
work what was the question

419
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,000
again what other devices would Dallas

420
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,760
County need to purchase to make the

421
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,279
recommended eole books work none

422
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:30,039
everything's included in here okay is

423
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:31,799
there a raspberry cuz we've been down

424
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:34,080
this road with ten we've been down this

425
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,120
road with ten uh so we don't have we

426
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,440
don't have we don't have any anything

427
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,840
else that we're going to have to

428
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,480
purchase to make this this this thing

429
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,320
work seamlessly no sir with with Noah in

430
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,399
um how will the voter registration data

431
00:27:52,399 --> 00:27:56,000
flow from votch system to another vendor

432
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,360
EO book solution

433
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,360
we do what's called an import process um

434
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,000
just like we're doing now uh you go to

435
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,799
the voter system you do an export of the

436
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,120
data and then you move it and you copy

437
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,640
it into the cloud system and then every

438
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,240
day at the end of let's say early voting

439
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,200
you go to the cloud system and say give

440
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,919
me the list of everyone who voted and

441
00:28:16,919 --> 00:28:19,039
you import it into the VR system and say

442
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,360
Mark these people as Mark their voter

443
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,399
history and we're not going we're not

444
00:28:23,399 --> 00:28:25,880
anticipating any trouble with that

445
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,360
running smooth by by the May joint

446
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:29,919
election that's a pretty standard

447
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:32,480
process sure well and no it hasn't been

448
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,480
standard we've had that we've had issues

449
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,559
and and I can go back and point them to

450
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,200
you we've had issues before so I I hear

451
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,720
what you're saying it's reason I'm

452
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,039
putting it on the record and asking you

453
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:47,080
you know how willing votch be to assist

454
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,320
us if if we purchased a a competitor's

455
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,039
uh pole book was votch at the

456
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,600
presentation correct yes they did their

457
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480
presentation so and I understand saying

458
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,320
that they had uh some commentary is that

459
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,720
correct some what

460
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,480
commentary they did yes okay so how

461
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,720
willing will they be for us to to to

462
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,159
assist us in uh using the competitor's

463
00:29:15,159 --> 00:29:16,840
uh EO

464
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,120
book uh we already pay for the licenses

465
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,120
and the and what we need to do the job

466
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,519
they really don't have to do anything

467
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:27,440
okay so we don't need them we don't need

468
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,120
them they they they they can they can

469
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,600
walk away so

470
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,640
so what about they're still going to do

471
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,919
our better registration well no no I'm

472
00:29:36,919 --> 00:29:38,799
talking about this conversion okay I'm

473
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,559
I'm in this conversion judge so the act

474
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:42,660
so

475
00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:43,840
[Music]

476
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480
will what will take place regarding the

477
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880
level of support that we will need to

478
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,519
provide in other words does it even have

479
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:55,039
the resource the tool the time uh to be

480
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:56,480
able to make this conversion we don't

481
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,600
need it is that it does not I mean they

482
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,120
have really good experts that have

483
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,039
helped us when we need to but uh again

484
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:05,600
this is a very standard process of

485
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,840
writing a report and extracting the data

486
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,480
to a text file and then copying it over

487
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
to a separate computer um okay so what

488
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,399
would prevent Dallas County from already

489
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:20,559
using U available

490
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:25,360
laptops installing votte vot safe the

491
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,919
printers and using the solutions for won

492
00:30:28,919 --> 00:30:31,080
or more elections what what would

493
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,399
prohibit that well you can't just grab

494
00:30:33,399 --> 00:30:35,320
any random laptop and do it it has to be

495
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,000
the the harder that's been certified by

496
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,600
the state and that's what we ask VK to

497
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,120
put on the table and votch has been so

498
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,360
right and they put their offer on the

499
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,240
table and you know and they didn't get

500
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,960
it okay so has anyone considered that

501
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,000
solution allow to to explore more in

502
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600
detail the best I I guess what I'm asked

503
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,960
what harm would there be to use that

504
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,320
option what was I'm sorry to use the

505
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,720
option of laptops that are already

506
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,919
available install in votte vot safe and

507
00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:09,600
you know and the printer use the

508
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,240
solution we can't grab random hardware

509
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840
and install software that would not be

510
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,480
compliant with the state certification

511
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,720
the state says this is the hardware I

512
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,880
certified and if you want to use a

513
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,639
laptop as I I asked that question sir a

514
00:31:23,639 --> 00:31:24,919
month and a half

515
00:31:24,919 --> 00:31:28,399
ago when we weren't getting any answers

516
00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:30,639
from our vendor current vendor on what

517
00:31:30,639 --> 00:31:32,240
the options were I called the state and

518
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,480
said I got a bunch of laptops sitting in

519
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,240
my office can I install vote safe and

520
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760
get going and they said no you have to

521
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,720
get the certified system from the vendor

522
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,519
it's not the exact same model exact same

523
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:46,519
printer the exact same software it's not

524
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:48,120
a legally certified pole book and you're

525
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,679
going to be in trouble we have to so

526
00:31:50,679 --> 00:31:52,120
that's why we that's why we told him you

527
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,440
have an opportunity to come to the table

528
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,760
and put your offer and their offer is to

529
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,600
give you 4,500 laptops with vote vote

530
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,960
safe installed and the printers and

531
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600
everything we need cost this much and

532
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,880
that's what they demoed and that's what

533
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360
we evaluated let me ask you a quick

534
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,480
question wait oh I'm sorry go ahead go

535
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,919
ahead commissioner price so what are the

536
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:14,200
terms to contract with this recommended

537
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,320
their unclad service level agreement

538
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,200
which we've had issues in the past with

539
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,240
them to make sure that they will support

540
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,960
the equipment and the software for a

541
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,039
reasonable time they they have included

542
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,399
uh their virtual technical support and

543
00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:32,880
we have uh the maintenance and security

544
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,639
there we also included a number of

545
00:32:34,639 --> 00:32:37,000
support on site hours that we can we can

546
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,360
take advantage of um we've secured 65

547
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,240
days in a row so basically from both

548
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,559
vendors we asked this is a really

549
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:46,559
aggressive timeline we want someone on

550
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:48,399
site pretty much every day from the

551
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:50,000
award all the way down to election day

552
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,240
right uh and

553
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,679
then we can uh we have subsequent

554
00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:57,039
support dates that we can add throughout

555
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:58,480
the years if we need them

556
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,960
so what is the drop dead uh date uh

557
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960
delivery date for ready to use

558
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,519
EPO uh in the RFP we put Mar April 2nd

559
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,880
was the last batch this vendor has

560
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,279
agreed to deliver pretty much all of the

561
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,679
4500 devices I believe it was March 18

562
00:33:20,679 --> 00:33:24,000
which is way ahead of what we had even

563
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,919
thought about ask in fact to make sure

564
00:33:26,919 --> 00:33:28,399
that we could separate the part that

565
00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:29,519
we're going to get

566
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,600
reimbursed from by the state from from

567
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,279
the part we're not we actually asked

568
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:38,240
them to uh push back the last 1300 units

569
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,080
to October 1st so that we would pay for

570
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,679
them with next year's fiscal year uh

571
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:45,840
budget so that we can keep two separate

572
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,039
invoices the part the invoice we we hope

573
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:50,120
to get reimbursed by from the state and

574
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,519
the one but they were Prett aggressive

575
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,080
they said we'll deliver everything uh by

576
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,120
March 18 I think it

577
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,480
was well we it's not as though you were

578
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,919
here but we we've had this before and um

579
00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,960
we did they they delivered and of course

580
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,200
they they you know they we paid for it

581
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,919
and then of course we got locked out so

582
00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:14,399
how much does the recommended EPO book

583
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:19,599
system um well what's the what's the uh

584
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,480
the weight of this system what's the

585
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,919
weight of these EO books the weight of

586
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:28,040
the device sure uh I've I've had pre

587
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,599
I've had pounds in the case the whole

588
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:31,440
thing

589
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,960
packed believe it they said 19 PBS let

590
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,200
me I can look it up quickly okay and so

591
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,280
so it's it's it's still the same

592
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480
convenience factor for the for the PO

593
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,879
work isn't that better than what we have

594
00:34:43,879 --> 00:34:47,159
no saying that's that's it's easier to

595
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,599
assemble it was 20 that's reason I was

596
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:54,159
sorry sir I nine pounds 9 lb with the uh

597
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,400
Express boat printer 9.5 lbs so it's

598
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,280
9.5 pounds

599
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520
yes did any of the poll workers get any

600
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480
feedback on on this did they get a

601
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,200
chance to look at it at all no sir

602
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,720
okay I was part of the process and I was

603
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,720
a PO worker and I had a

604
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,119
chance so what do you think going to be

605
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,240
a lot easier for seniors yes

606
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,920
absolutely and let's assembly right Miss

607
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
richardon yes yes a lot less assembly

608
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,560
yes okay um the um

609
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,280
these EPO books are going to be

610
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,920
compatible with these uh all of this we

611
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520
spent on this new curbside transport

612
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,400
carts that we

613
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,079
purchased that curbside cart won't be a

614
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:42,560
problem sir they have a big drawer in

615
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,720
the bottom we intentionally built so

616
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,079
that they could carry accessories

617
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,960
there okay okay um thank you you done

618
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,160
commission well go ahead on but I'm not

619
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,920
um Mr Garcia um both save as as you

620
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,440
mentioned is a pole book compatible with

621
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480
our border registration system but what

622
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,240
you're saying is that when we transfer

623
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,440
the data which is what we need to do in

624
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,040
this case uh both save and um Inc have

625
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,560
pretty much the same on time

626
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,119
transmission of data can you elaborate

627
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:21,200
on how is the data transfer is it safe

628
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,680
why do you think that um uh no ink it's

629
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,440
better than you know vot safe so they

630
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,319
have two different architectures right

631
00:36:32,319 --> 00:36:35,040
um vote safe being the incumbent of the

632
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,000
voter rate system uh they built a way to

633
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,160
directly link through you know secure

634
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,440
channels the cloud system that controls

635
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,400
the you voted here let me tell the other

636
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,079
poll books to the voter rid so one of

637
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,160
their selling points was when you check

638
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,920
someone in that is automatically flowing

639
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,359
all the way directly to your voter red

640
00:36:56,359 --> 00:36:59,720
system uh no ink obviously is not the

641
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,440
incumbent

642
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,079
and at some point we I think when we

643
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,119
write the RFP for VR systems we're going

644
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:07,880
to want to demand that that channel be

645
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,280
open to whoever our vendor is but they

646
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,240
don't have that access they operate the

647
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:13,880
way that most poll books do which is

648
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,240
they have a cloud system they do all

649
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:16,680
their transactions they tell their poll

650
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,079
books and then you have to go and say

651
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:19,480
give me the record of everything and you

652
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,560
bring it in and you import it into your

653
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,680
voter system um which one's better is

654
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,359
going to depend on what you

655
00:37:28,359 --> 00:37:31,520
evaluation uh your criteria tells you

656
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,280
the real-time connection that vote safe

657
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,760
offers votech uh may be pretty

658
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,400
convenient in terms of you don't have to

659
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,319
do this import and this file handling

660
00:37:40,319 --> 00:37:42,440
but from an IT security perspective

661
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,520
there's a there's a link between your

662
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,280
internal voter regge system and a cloud

663
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,920
system that is exposed to the world you

664
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,760
don't have an air gap so the other

665
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,160
system you know it's not extremely

666
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,000
convenient we have to do more work as a

667
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,280
department we have to go at the end of

668
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,599
the day pull the records come back

669
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:02,720
import check and balance but it's air

670
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,520
gap you cannot get to our system from

671
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,760
the outside world so you may see some

672
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,560
differences in the criteria of those who

673
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200
evaluated I would I would say you know I

674
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,520
personally being someone with an IT

675
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,680
background I keep the air gap and I

676
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,240
appreciate that from from the system

677
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:21,640
that no one gu okay so um

678
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,079
the you really feel that uh no Inc is a

679
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,720
system you know that the committee the

680
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,079
purchasing committee selected it's a

681
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,560
good option for Dallas County it's safe

682
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,760
it has also the paper trail which our

683
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,839
original intent was to always have a

684
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:43,920
second way of knowing where the election

685
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,240
results are so this vot Inc has it right

686
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,040
I mean no Inc has it they they they I

687
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,520
mean it they print out the receipts and

688
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,880
they activate the ballot that paper

689
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,000
trail part is uh but both systems are

690
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,319
basically

691
00:38:58,319 --> 00:39:00,000
digital signature capture right you're

692
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,560
signing on screen on on both of them um

693
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,760
yeah I feel I feel confident with the

694
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,520
solution I think you know in an Ideal

695
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,079
World we didn't put ourselves in this

696
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:11,960
situation right we would have taken six

697
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,920
months to do this bid we would have

698
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,920
brought it to seak we would have brought

699
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,880
it to a lot of people we would have

700
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,280
invited the parties we would have done a

701
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,680
lot more open we didn't choose to be in

702
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,599
a situation right we were we were told

703
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,560
hey it yeah we were the certifi in there

704
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,240
and we were happy in our on six months

705
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,800
ago with a certified system that worked

706
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,800
and then we weren't wake up time to do

707
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,680
something um so in this scenario I think

708
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,200
we have you know given the time we have

709
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,240
we we're lucky to have one very viable

710
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,359
solid option uh this is a system that is

711
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:44,960
used again in large counties Across the

712
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,880
Nation the largest county and the nation

713
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,760
LA County uses the system and it works

714
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,000
for them it works for Cook County

715
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,520
Illinois works for clant County I mean

716
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,040
big volume right which is one of the

717
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,400
concerns we had check um it's used in

718
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,560
probably I would say a third if I recall

719
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,079
the map well of the counties in Texas so

720
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,040
they know the Texas processes they know

721
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,440
the Texas workflows they're certified

722
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,560
here so not worried about that either

723
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,160
the the risk we have and we have't with

724
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,480
any vendor that would have come in is we

725
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,839
have to we have to take control of it

726
00:40:14,839 --> 00:40:17,680
and own it and run it right but that's

727
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,440
us that we control that we control that

728
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,640
with them right the IT department like

729
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,560
you told commissioner price Dallas

730
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,720
County it department will not be

731
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:28,760
involving any of this oh we'll ask him

732
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,440
for help if we need to right hey but not

733
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,280
we have to set up specific certificates

734
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,119
to encrypt the tunnel whatever they'll

735
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,680
be involved of course right but the

736
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,440
operational here it is here's the

737
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,000
instruction manual let's train you let's

738
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,880
set up an election and let's trainable

739
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,480
workers that's us we control that we can

740
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,040
make it happen correct so I feel yeah I

741
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,760
feel good I feel good that we at least

742
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,720
have a a value you know viable option

743
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,440
okay um will they provide White Glove

744
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,200
maintenance service uh is there issues

745
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,280
during the election that the process

746
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,560
escalates you know about uh response of

747
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,520
these companies will they physically had

748
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,880
someone here to troubleshoot and help

749
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,359
identify Solutions at the time of the

750
00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:18,000
voting yes ma'am like I said we uh in

751
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,119
the bid we requested that whoever got

752
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:21,800
this again this compressed timeline we

753
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,960
have would have to commit to having

754
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,520
someone on site from the moment we

755
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,760
started all the way down to May so

756
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,079
someone's going to be moving to Dallas

757
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,160
County soon uh and that's for the first

758
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,119
implementation and then after that we

759
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,800
have in the contract ability to schedule

760
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,520
someone to be on site uh a number of

761
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,280
days a year every time we need it so

762
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,040
excellent I expect that uh number of

763
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,240
days on site to be higher as we start

764
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,920
and then as we Master this out start

765
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,119
decreasing are the priority One issues

766
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,960
that what is the expected turnaround for

767
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,520
them to have the results and the uh

768
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,599
specific feedback on the cost

769
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:10,200
uh what on the on the on the ca of the

770
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,920
uh of the root uh cause analysis what's

771
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,079
the turnaround that they will

772
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,119
have that that depends right um I don't

773
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:20,880
I don't think that there's a commitment

774
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,680
to getting to the root cause of an issue

775
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,559
that takes what it takes to investigate

776
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:27,359
and you know depending on what it is but

777
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:29,800
we do have you know on-site support like

778
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,319
I said for critical moments and then

779
00:42:31,319 --> 00:42:33,960
there's a whole uh terms of agreement

780
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,599
there on how to escalate issues to them

781
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,160
it's pretty standard language that we

782
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,760
use okay training I mean this will

783
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,119
require that our you know election

784
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,559
Personnel gets retrained it's a

785
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:49,960
different system is there's a lot of

786
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,319
retraining that we have to do are we

787
00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:55,200
thinking about doing the same uh

788
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,000
training sessions with all our our

789
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000
election workers every single pole

790
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,400
worker is going to have to be retrained

791
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,000
for the May election and then for

792
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,640
November and so on right so uh we will

793
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,280
be doing a lot of training we've already

794
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,760
put together a preliminary calendar of

795
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,839
training that assumes every single

796
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:13,240
person that's going to work in May is

797
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,440
going to have to go to training and

798
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,200
probably refresher courses and things

799
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,839
like that uh we need to start March 20

800
00:43:20,839 --> 00:43:22,200
something forgive me for not knowing the

801
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,440
exact date and that that's enough time

802
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,240
for us to train everyone the way we

803
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:29,000
designed the schedule uh we need they're

804
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,280
committed to having a first set of 100

805
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,400
units here before the end of February I

806
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,440
believe those are the units for the

807
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,559
training classrooms and everything um so

808
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:40,920
looks like it's all good we the decision

809
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,640
has to be made just for us to have

810
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,760
enough time uh pretty quick time yes we

811
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,559
have to decide to do something today and

812
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:50,240
talking about the contract I mean I feel

813
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,680
pretty good that the DA's office uh put

814
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,240
some of the key um point as far as uh

815
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,880
withholding payments till compliance is

816
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,319
um achieve and obviously a termination

817
00:44:07,319 --> 00:44:10,400
uh rule in cha in case that they do not

818
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,760
perform you feel confident I feel

819
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,480
confident and I think thank you I mean

820
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,760
the purchasing team the legal team

821
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,200
everyone the Advent team because we did

822
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,119
do kind of a deep dive of Lessons

823
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,240
Learned and this is the third poll book

824
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,520
vendor in six years that we have deal

825
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,200
with in Dallas County if this goes

826
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,520
through what are the Lessons Learned we

827
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,040
have and so even what you mentioned

828
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,520
commissioner price about being locked

829
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,119
out of our old devices there's a clause

830
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,640
in there that says these are our devices

831
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,200
and the day we decide to terminate this

832
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,839
contract you have a legal obligation to

833
00:44:38,839 --> 00:44:40,359
turn them over and unlock them for us to

834
00:44:40,359 --> 00:44:42,000
use and whatever we want right so it it

835
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,880
was an our last one too but we still got

836
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,200
our ass locked out okay but it's there

837
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,359
and you know there's there's an

838
00:44:48,359 --> 00:44:50,520
enforcable Clause now to to act on that

839
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,520
right so um thank you to both the legal

840
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,359
the admin well both the three the

841
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:56,680
purchasing team for all the effort to

842
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,200
kind of collect all that information and

843
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,960
help build it into a contract I feel is

844
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,319
very perfect and so those sanctions for

845
00:45:03,319 --> 00:45:06,280
not compliance are there and you feel

846
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,800
happy with them the 2,000 going back to

847
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,599
commissioner summerman question the

848
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:15,440
$2,250 per day per person with a 10%

849
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,480
discount uh what exactly does that meant

850
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,839
at all if we need additional they're

851
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:24,599
going to charge additional cost anyway

852
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:27,800
right yes ma'am so that 10% is discount

853
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,000
is what nothing nothing exactly to

854
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,960
that's okay I mean it's a selling point

855
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,040
I agree last but not least because of um

856
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,319
Dallas County Purchasing rules um Mr

857
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:41,680
Garcia you were not part of the

858
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,119
selection committee I was involved I saw

859
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,319
the demos I was sitting in the room I

860
00:45:45,319 --> 00:45:47,920
did not fill out of scorecard which is

861
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,359
first time I told that but that's the

862
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:52,839
process in Dallas and we follow the

863
00:45:52,839 --> 00:45:54,160
process that the purchasing department

864
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,319
has you feel confident that they reached

865
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:57,640
the right decision

866
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,359
I do I do and and I think the the the

867
00:46:00,359 --> 00:46:01,880
key is in the variety of the panel we

868
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,280
had it people so that they could focus

869
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,240
on it security issues and not have

870
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,599
surprises you know we didn't think about

871
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,680
the Enterprise term whatever like again

872
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,880
Lessons Learned From the Past right uh

873
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,240
and then there were five subject matter

874
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:14,920
experts from our team from different

875
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,960
areas voter Reds tabulation operations

876
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,359
Warehouse data and and the deputy admin

877
00:46:20,359 --> 00:46:23,440
so uh I think this was looked at from

878
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,119
all critical angles to ask the questions

879
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,079
that we needed to ask ask uh and yeah I

880
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:29,680
feel comfortable with with what we have

881
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,599
in front of you thank you very much Mr

882
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:32,839
Garcia thank you Josh thank you

883
00:46:32,839 --> 00:46:35,280
colleagues I think Dr Daniel has some

884
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,119
questions before that let me clarify one

885
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:40,680
thing if we vote on this contract and

886
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,040
and we vote for the contract today is

887
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,599
that for 31 and 50 machines or is that

888
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,079
for more machines 4500 we just split the

889
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,440
invoicing in and and

890
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,559
so explain to us since we just had did a

891
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:58,920
presidential big El ction we use

892
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,760
3150 why do we need to buy an additional

893
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,319
1400 or 1350 machines when when you get

894
00:47:05,319 --> 00:47:07,440
to March next year and you have well

895
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,200
March March May and you have

896
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,640
back-to-back elections that almost

897
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,960
overlap there's very little time to turn

898
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,800
around the units you have out on the

899
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,000
field and prep them for the election

900
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,680
coming up especially in that may

901
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Municipal and may runoff election and so

902
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,920
you have scenarios where if you have a

903
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,960
countywide Primary runoff let's say

904
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,480
County judge

905
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,160
right you have to have enough coverage

906
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,680
for the entire County at the end of May

907
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,160
but at the beginning of may your devices

908
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,880
are out on Election Day and you're not

909
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,200
preparing them right so there's an

910
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,880
overlap a need for for big inventory

911
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,240
there and also keep in mind the

912
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:42,000
legislature hasn't been easy on us

913
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,040
allowing us to reduce locations even

914
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,800
though we're vote centers so what used

915
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,800
to be a well we have 200ish 250

916
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,119
locations in May is now I know it's the

917
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,160
450 site every single time we go around

918
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,640
so we do need a number of units for that

919
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,240
okay Dr Daniel just have a couple of

920
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,599
questions um first of all thank you very

921
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:06,200
much for the amount of information that

922
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,000
you did provide but for

923
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,520
clarification the amount that is

924
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,200
included included on the briefing order

925
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,520
is

926
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,640
7,648

927
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:24,240
750 right and that is for what is that

928
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,240
one year of operation or is for the six

929
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,960
years of operation I am going to almost

930
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,920
defer that to purchasing but my

931
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,440
understanding is it's the two mandatory

932
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,960
years that we're entering into the

933
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,559
contract this is a two-year contract

934
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:40,400
with a option to renew three times

935
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,920
correct Mar which means the commitment

936
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,400
this court is making is years one and

937
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,480
two is that $7 million but the materials

938
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,319
tell you you know for the five if you

939
00:48:49,319 --> 00:48:51,000
wanted to have a full view of what it

940
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,599
would cost if you did the three renewals

941
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:55,640
is that $1 million totally hether did I

942
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,359
say that right May

943
00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:00,720
so the 7 million is the twoyear contract

944
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,359
yes ma'am half per year yes ma'am it's a

945
00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:05,160
two-year contract with three one-year

946
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200
renewal options and that's why you're

947
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,240
considering the two years today yes

948
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:10,799
ma'am okay okay I was a little confused

949
00:49:10,799 --> 00:49:14,559
on what the actual cost was um there are

950
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:15,319
no

951
00:49:15,319 --> 00:49:19,400
subcontractors is that why SBA is not

952
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,799
involved I am going to turn to my

953
00:49:22,799 --> 00:49:24,680
right

954
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,920
that's did you repeat your question

955
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,319
please uh it's been I thought I heard

956
00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:33,079
that SBA is not involved is that because

957
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,400
there are no subcontractors when you say

958
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,359
not invol I've been involved in the the

959
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:39,520
entire process but as far as

960
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,400
participation as it relates to this

961
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,079
award the two subcontractors that no Inc

962
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:48,799
provided were not SBE certified and one

963
00:49:48,799 --> 00:49:50,799
in particular was not eligible they are

964
00:49:50,799 --> 00:49:55,400
a huge large firm out of uh St Louis and

965
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,200
they're not eligible they're over the

966
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,720
billion dollar threshold so they don't

967
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,280
meet the small business Enterprise

968
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,720
requirements okay that was one of the

969
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,280
alternative companies right they were

970
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,280
one of the

971
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,119
subcontractors and they and they were

972
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:08,280
going to provide so there are

973
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,480
subcontractors there are yes ma'am they

974
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,720
just did not receive points because

975
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:15,359
they're not SB certified according to

976
00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:16,680
our program requirements they're too

977
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,319
large then they're it's irrelevant I

978
00:50:19,319 --> 00:50:21,839
guess but when you but but are they let

979
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:23,160
let's put it on the record I mean you

980
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,960
know I love the way we dance around this

981
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,319
are they are they minority

982
00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:31,400
companies uh one is a minority certified

983
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,119
company and one is a woman owned company

984
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,760
but according to our

985
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,880
program I I get I I get all that so the

986
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,799
minority on company was

987
00:50:41,799 --> 00:50:45,680
what minor African-American sir okay yes

988
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,200
certified certified but not with the the

989
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,480
million dollar threshold like I get it I

990
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,520
get it okay okay um there is a map

991
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,599
included in on page

992
00:50:58,599 --> 00:51:05,760
six of the um no no link um okay and it

993
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,880
looks like there are two stars in Texas

994
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,440
so is it tarant County and Travis County

995
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,319
or what are those

996
00:51:13,319 --> 00:51:16,960
two I know they're they they they're in

997
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,559
uh tra Taran County and they're I know

998
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,920
they're in Denton County I don't know

999
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,640
another Urban County cuz I was searching

1000
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,280
and I didn't find it that's should I

1001
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,599
said I think it's D and ter yeah they

1002
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,960
they they they they tant is the only

1003
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,799
Urban large County everything else is is

1004
00:51:35,799 --> 00:51:38,119
is small counties so the stars are kind

1005
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:40,920
of not quite well

1006
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,440
placed um let's see anything else yeah

1007
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,880
it looks like those are the large

1008
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,200
counties around the country they're kind

1009
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,680
of highlighting there I think yeah yeah

1010
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,359
I just wonder what what the two stars

1011
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:53,760
were in Texas and I thought that one was

1012
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,240
tarant I saw that reference but I see

1013
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,480
what this second reference was Taran and

1014
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,559
Denton Taran and Denton yes okay um and

1015
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:07,680
then my last question

1016
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,640
is then that the that you are

1017
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,920
recommending um that we do sign this

1018
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,359
contract with no yes ma'am I do

1019
00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:23,200
okay and okay thank you right so I have

1020
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,599
a few more if I could please votech did

1021
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,400
they uh promis to meet the deadlines

1022
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,920
that we could get the voting off so

1023
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,640
their their proposal was kind of a

1024
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,079
hybrid two-step thing uh they initially

1025
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,079
Mario please feel free to say stop if

1026
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:41,359
I'm saying something that is not

1027
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:43,000
disclosable I'm not sure the rules here

1028
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,520
but yes Mr Garcia it's probably not a

1029
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,720
good idea to divulge any information in

1030
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,079
the the competitor's proposal okay wait

1031
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,960
wait wait stop stop stop that's I mean

1032
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,559
he asked a very generic question

1033
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,160
question yeah is can vot meet the

1034
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520
timeline that's the question yeah that's

1035
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,359
generic in my opinion no okay they came

1036
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:07,400
up with a we'll give you this and in the

1037
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,799
meantime we'll swap out and then we'll

1038
00:53:08,799 --> 00:53:11,559
make it to November got it okay and you

1039
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:13,079
should be able to survive May that was

1040
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:14,640
my interpretation of what they ended up

1041
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,040
putting on the table you you'll survive

1042
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,640
it as kind of survive May and then

1043
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,280
you'll get the cool Final toy reel thing

1044
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,040
in May in November but no week was we

1045
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,680
can meet the day in from the beginning I

1046
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,119
me okay fine now training let me ask

1047
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:29,880
about that real quick uh will no Inc be

1048
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,400
able to provide some help with regard to

1049
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,400
training uh I'm talking about the

1050
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,319
individual pole workers are they going

1051
00:53:37,319 --> 00:53:39,839
to help us with that right that's why we

1052
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:41,599
wanted a person on site we want that

1053
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:43,079
person to train our trainers we want

1054
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:44,680
that person to be in the first classes

1055
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,280
and if they even have to they say look

1056
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,319
we'll train you or we've paid for a

1057
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:50,480
number of days so if we can bring a

1058
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,119
second person and if we want to and then

1059
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:53,799
have two people I mean it's it's man

1060
00:53:53,799 --> 00:53:55,280
hours that we pay for right so that's on

1061
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,920
the table as an option if we the

1062
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640
training is an imperative especially

1063
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,799
with a new system y absolutely number

1064
00:54:01,799 --> 00:54:04,319
one and

1065
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:07,359
probably as much or even more important

1066
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:10,000
than the dead gum equipment absolutely

1067
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,440
okay yes so training is just an

1068
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,440
imperative and I've and I know other

1069
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,599
people have in here too but s on some of

1070
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:19,760
the training and that was with systems

1071
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,160
that that was familiarity this is all

1072
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,160
new certain both are all new but workers

1073
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,040
have zero familiarity with either one of

1074
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,319
the options no no no no I'm just I'm

1075
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:32,480
talking about whatever is proposed today

1076
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,720
that's correct but as I said it's all

1077
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,480
new and I saw the other system and the

1078
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,720
training and um so it's it's it's IT

1079
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,520
training is is this an imper absolutely

1080
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,599
absolutely it's going to be key um I

1081
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:49,480
think this product is at that point

1082
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,760
where it's uh user friendly enough that

1083
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,160
it's going to help us actually with the

1084
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,559
training it's pretty straightforward uh

1085
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:57,440
but you're absolutely right we have to

1086
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,000
put as much if not more muscle into

1087
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,960
training than in the internal part

1088
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,880
because uh it's it's you know 450

1089
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,720
election day locations that that need to

1090
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:10,000
know how to do this and do it

1091
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,400
right all right and then sorry go you I

1092
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,240
just I'm wondering how much is each

1093
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:18,400
machine I keep going back in my mind to

1094
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,039
your example of the runoff let's assume

1095
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:25,200
there's a runoff uh next election but

1096
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,760
would it be cheaper to to um hire some

1097
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,520
temporary help to help program machines

1098
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,440
between the runoff and the May election

1099
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,400
or would it be cheaper to buy the

1100
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,599
machines I'm assuming it must be cheaper

1101
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:40,280
to buy the machines

1102
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,520
right uh I would buy the machines also

1103
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,280
because there's always Replacements

1104
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,760
changes you know there's always a a

1105
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,319
number of things that happen you have to

1106
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:53,160
have a stock of uh spare units right I

1107
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,359
mean on Election Day who knew that we

1108
00:55:55,359 --> 00:55:57,280
were going to be shooting out almost 80

1109
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,240
units out because we had an issue right

1110
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,480
thank God we had a couple hundred spares

1111
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,640
sitting on a shelf to to react remember

1112
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,720
you're you're asking for 1350 spares no

1113
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:12,359
I'm asking for 1350 so that when we do

1114
00:56:12,359 --> 00:56:15,280
the main Municipal and we deploy say

1115
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,160
2500 I have 2,000 I'm that can prepare

1116
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,920
and get ready while those are out there

1117
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,760
for the early voting of the Primary

1118
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,599
runoff and then for election they have

1119
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,799
the Primary runoff and you're I'm sure

1120
00:56:25,799 --> 00:56:27,599
you gone through it and you're you're

1121
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,440
right but I'm trying to get in my mind

1122
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,400
okay so we've got all these extra

1123
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,880
machines and the reason we have the

1124
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,839
extra machines is there might be a

1125
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:37,880
runoff in the March election so let's

1126
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,440
say that runs us into sometime in April

1127
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,039
now we got to get ready for that may

1128
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:44,039
election

1129
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:47,079
right but how much does each of those

1130
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:50,960
1350 machines cost because you also

1131
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,520
could have help in programming the

1132
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,240
machines that we get done with in the

1133
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,720
the runoff I you would already have a

1134
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,599
bunch of machines program because you're

1135
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:06,640
not using 3150 in the runoff right

1136
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,640
and then would it be cheaper to Pro to

1137
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,720
have somebody come help help us program

1138
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,440
or is it better to buy the machines

1139
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,960
because they cost whatever a$1 thousand

1140
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,160
dollar a machine and the time of

1141
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,880
programming would eat all that up you

1142
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,799
understand what I'm asking yeah I hear

1143
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:26,799
what you're saying um I I I can run some

1144
00:57:26,799 --> 00:57:29,119
numbers for you and then add I and

1145
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:30,280
there's also a matter of records

1146
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,400
retention that kind of thing I want to

1147
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,200
make sure that we yeah off the top of my

1148
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,760
head I try to remember if the 60-day

1149
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,400
electronic record preservation Clause

1150
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,079
applies to poll books which means we

1151
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:42,240
can't touch that's the override what's

1152
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,880
in there you're you're correct I'm just

1153
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,079
going to throw it out there no you're

1154
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:48,240
correct that is correct you to keep them

1155
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,760
is correct there are certain limitations

1156
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,079
to like even flash drives we can't reuse

1157
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:53,440
them for 60 days they have to be

1158
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,559
preserved untouched I think the books

1159
00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:57,359
fall into that and that's another reason

1160
00:57:57,359 --> 00:57:59,359
why it's like even if we wanted to we

1161
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:01,760
still have to right May wrong that one

1162
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,240
I'll get back to you and confirm that no

1163
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,039
no that is I think Mr Garcia is right

1164
00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:08,119
and not only that I mean you don't want

1165
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:11,119
to run the risk that you don't have

1166
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,400
enough machines for the next election

1167
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,200
it's not you know that's yeah that's I

1168
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,440
think that's right but my thought was if

1169
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,440
we never need a we can buy them anytime

1170
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,359
we want to just like right yeah and and

1171
00:58:24,359 --> 00:58:26,400
Melissa the depu is telling me there's a

1172
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,359
scenario we have to also assume like for

1173
00:58:28,359 --> 00:58:29,839
example if the parties don't want to

1174
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:31,400
have a joint primary you just doubled

1175
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,839
your number of primary P books you need

1176
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:35,440
so there are a lot of scenarios that the

1177
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,319
forces to be prepared okay uh and have

1178
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:40,760
that number of devices I I have one more

1179
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,359
area of inquiry if I could please and

1180
00:58:42,359 --> 00:58:46,520
let's talk about payroll um the no Inc

1181
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,000
uh Pole books they are able to uh

1182
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,319
include the data associated with the

1183
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:55,200
workers coming in and logging in and so

1184
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,520
forth and so on that needs to be done so

1185
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,559
it can be downloaded to ADP and get

1186
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:01,680
these folks paid on time is that right

1187
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,280
they have a functionality where the pole

1188
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,960
worker can check in in time stamp I

1189
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,960
checked in at this hour um so now we'll

1190
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,880
go and explore it and but the basic

1191
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,720
process would be similar to what we have

1192
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,160
right now right people check in in the

1193
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,799
device they record their time and then

1194
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:16,280
we pull that and we move on to the

1195
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,760
payroll system to run yeah because

1196
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,119
that's not on for us to discuss I'm not

1197
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:22,400
going to Dev into that because I got a

1198
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,039
real problem with the system we have now

1199
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:27,680
in terms of so we can't talk about it

1200
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,720
right now but as long as we can link up

1201
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,599
good that was my last point of inquiry

1202
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:36,839
okay thank you are there any other

1203
00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:39,280
concerns hearing none the question is

1204
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,960
before

1205
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,599
us okay do a speaker is a speaker here

1206
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,559
uh Wesley

1207
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:49,760
boen Wesley

1208
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,440
Bowen Wesley boing is Wesley boing on

1209
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,920
the stream he's not he's not

1210
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,400
okay got a motion and a and a and a

1211
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,119
second with regards to the item that is

1212
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:07,079
before us who says the court move to

1213
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:09,200
approve well no we got it I got a mo

1214
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,240
second we already have it I I I those

1215
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,480
who oppos Nay by a vote of uh probably

1216
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,240
three eyes and one nay uh it passes

1217
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,440
where is the judge that's he he had to

1218
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,920
go do something okay anyway it passes

1219
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,559
okay is there anything else uh Mr Martin

1220
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:29,240
to come before this this special call

1221
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,960
meeting no sir hearing none all those in

1222
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,280
favor sorry we I've already done that

1223
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,079
judge oh he's not here he's not here and

1224
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:38,839
we did the vote do you want to you want

1225
01:00:38,839 --> 01:00:41,520
to make a reconsider it was 31 but you

1226
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,760
want to rec oh sure uh move to

1227
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,599
reconsider second okay got a motion to

1228
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:49,319
Recons well no you have to move it you

1229
01:00:49,319 --> 01:00:51,160
need to move it no stop yeah you need to

1230
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,240
move it uh uh summer because you move it

1231
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,720
I move it or second it whichever you

1232
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,400
like and I second accept this I accept

1233
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,440
the re okay got it motion BR okay now

1234
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,039
motion all those in favor s was saying I

1235
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,760
hi all I'm an I but I am a little

1236
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,480
concerned about the extra for 1350 books

1237
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,200
but okay okay okay now the before us the

1238
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,960
the again the motion is before for the

1239
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,920
approval that is

1240
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,880
before and uh we voted all those in

1241
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:26,400
favor signify by saying I I I those who

1242
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,680
oppose Nay by four one it dep passes

1243
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,920
okay or did the speaker not show up no

1244
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,440
did and I I called for him both here and

1245
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,240
online great great all right continuous

1246
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,559
Improvement starts when now now 39

1247
01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:45,160
minutes ago that's right all right it's

1248
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,720
posted it's posted if I may members of

1249
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,039
the Court thank thank you thank you on

1250
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:51,680
behalf of the elections department and

1251
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,079
and I didn't want to leave without

1252
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:55,000
giving a big shout out to purchasing and

1253
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,039
legal en adment because honestly 3 weeks

1254
01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:00,960
ago I said this is impossible and and

1255
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,160
literally they said hold my beer and

1256
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,039
here we are and they made it happen so

1257
01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:06,559
thank you all of you for making it

1258
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:08,400
happen this is this is huge and we

1259
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,319
appreciate it at elections good can't

1260
01:02:11,319 --> 01:02:13,200
wait to hear what happens okay and it's

1261
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,839
going to be challenging very very

1262
01:02:14,839 --> 01:02:17,440
challenging and I want to thank all the

1263
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,400
election Personnel that I know they're

1264
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,520
about to start working like crazy so

1265
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:23,960
thank you

1266
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,599
all um and I think commissioner sum you

1267
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:30,240
chair continuous Improvement I do want

1268
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,400
to hammer no I'm

1269
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,640
good I got a big enough

1270
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:46,230
horse oh okay hold

1271
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:56,829
on yes

1272
01:02:56,839 --> 01:02:58,520
and I'm ready to begin whenever the rest

1273
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,720
of the Court signals me hold on just a

1274
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,839
second

1275
01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:08,039
I hey bring my continuous Improvement U

1276
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:27,190
VOR yeah

1277
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,990
all

1278
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,559
right it's all good commissioner price

1279
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:34,279
uh that's the contract go go ahead on

1280
01:03:34,279 --> 01:03:36,599
all right good proceed all right good uh

1281
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:40,359
welcome to the uh uh the February 11th

1282
01:03:40,359 --> 01:03:41,920
continuous Improvement steering

1283
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,279
committee meeting um can I please have a

1284
01:03:45,279 --> 01:03:47,520
a motion to open all legal no all legal

1285
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,240
notices have been posted and uh I so

1286
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,920
move second we have a quorum Y and we

1287
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,559
have a quorum uh all in favor I I

1288
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,400
we're open very good thank you the eyes

1289
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,559
have it all right um the first item uh

1290
01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:03,920
Mr bazan we have here is the discussion

1291
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,000
regarding the uh justice of the peace

1292
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,319
courts and security if you would please

1293
01:04:08,319 --> 01:04:10,319
give us uh the parametrical framework

1294
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:11,960
and then uh we'll begin the discussion

1295
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,480
if we could

1296
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,119
please yes sir this item was requested

1297
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:18,799
to be placed on the agenda uh this has

1298
01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:20,640
obviously been a conversation that's had

1299
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,599
between the court and various

1300
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:25,039
departments over the last several months

1301
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:28,400
is there a and uh Trey if you could pull

1302
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,240
up that slide and I'd like to ask far

1303
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,359
Marshall delosantos to

1304
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:35,559
please come up and we can lay this

1305
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:37,039
groundwork and obviously we have a

1306
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:39,680
number of elected officials here today

1307
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,160
and uh if it pleases the chair I mean I

1308
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,799
believe some of them will like to speak

1309
01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:47,119
oh yes and if we could pause a moment

1310
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:49,079
are we getting audio on the

1311
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:52,319
stream we're good everybody good yeah

1312
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:53,720
we're good we're good okay good good

1313
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,359
good all right let's continue thank you

1314
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:56,240
perfect

1315
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,279
so in terms of just Basics some bullet

1316
01:04:58,279 --> 01:05:00,480
points to help guide the

1317
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,720
discussion uh while that's being pulled

1318
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,520
up and we I I'll just State them uh for

1319
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,359
from a background perspective the fire

1320
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:11,880
Marshall's office has operated under

1321
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,240
various security assessment findings

1322
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,119
Robert if you want to talk about that

1323
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,039
yes good morning again uh since we uh

1324
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:21,720
been uh designated to do assessments

1325
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,039
onment centers from Administration and

1326
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:28,440
elected Court Administration here is we

1327
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,960
did an assessment on all the government

1328
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,559
centers one of the things we did is look

1329
01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:35,920
at we have public uh public places and

1330
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,599
then we have corro room security and how

1331
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:40,480
are we going to be able to enhance the

1332
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,319
security of of these operations there so

1333
01:05:43,319 --> 01:05:45,880
we've been uh tasked to look at it so

1334
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,400
when we did that we were looking at it

1335
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,920
public places are going to be open tax

1336
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,400
office Veterans Affairs and all that and

1337
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,359
then we're SE segregating the areas for

1338
01:05:56,359 --> 01:05:59,440
uh courtroom uh uh security we've been

1339
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,000
asked to look at it we've also looked at

1340
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,279
you know bringing in screening

1341
01:06:03,279 --> 01:06:05,839
operations we've already started this in

1342
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:07,440
one of our government centers in Grand

1343
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,359
Perry we started the government uh

1344
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:11,839
screen operations up there on the second

1345
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:14,319
floor after that we looked at it

1346
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:16,000
everything's running pretty smooth at

1347
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,680
this point we're going to be going to

1348
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,319
South Dallas Government Center to do

1349
01:06:19,319 --> 01:06:22,400
that as well and uh we also look at some

1350
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,079
of the things you know they also uh also

1351
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:28,720
came out and did a report on uh the

1352
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,559
government centers and they were also

1353
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:32,240
asking for enhancement of security

1354
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,240
measures I think that's what we're doing

1355
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,079
at this point uh getting that

1356
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:38,000
enhancement so we're putting uh

1357
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,119
screeners in there with metal detectors

1358
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:41,839
so when they're going up into the JP

1359
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:44,279
areas uh they're being screened for that

1360
01:06:44,279 --> 01:06:45,520
Robert can you give just from a

1361
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,640
historical perspective like even five

1362
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,960
years ago the level of security versus

1363
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,880
uh the initiatives taking place right

1364
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,680
now one of the things about five years

1365
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,480
ago you know we we looked at it there

1366
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,599
wasn't any type of security in all these

1367
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,520
government centers not even in some of

1368
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,279
our other big buildings like Records

1369
01:07:04,279 --> 01:07:07,839
building uh HHS and other buildings like

1370
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:10,880
that uh I was tasked to look at it from

1371
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,000
a Administration how we're going to be

1372
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,599
able to enhance that security measures

1373
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:16,960
and that's what we've been doing from

1374
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,839
here uh from then on so that's where

1375
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:22,359
we've come up with this plan so we can

1376
01:07:22,359 --> 01:07:24,480
enhance that security measures and the

1377
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,160
especially excuse me in the courts in

1378
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,000
the JP areas Mr let me make sure to to

1379
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,559
the first of all and I

1380
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:38,160
apologize she just W my book um the

1381
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,880
uh having been present in the January

1382
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,119
13th meeting ah thank you that's okay

1383
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:45,480
it's all right haven't been president

1384
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,559
January 13 meeting I move the approval

1385
01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:50,400
of those men at meeting second thank you

1386
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,400
all in favor I I thank you sorry just

1387
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,599
getting the record and it's approved

1388
01:07:54,599 --> 01:07:55,920
thank you for doing it appreciate your

1389
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,319
time all right good um all right uh so

1390
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:03,240
uh Chief if you could please um give us

1391
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,680
a timeline if you would when do you

1392
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,799
think you'll have magnetometers and

1393
01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:09,760
screeners in all of the JP courts we're

1394
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,799
trying to hopefully have it within at

1395
01:08:11,799 --> 01:08:15,400
least by June of this year the screeners

1396
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,040
and and the X-ray machines I mean the uh

1397
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,480
yeah the metal detectors and all the uh

1398
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:22,719
JPS areas all right very good now let me

1399
01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:24,120
set the table for the next area of

1400
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,080
discussion if we could please

1401
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,279
uh do you provide any baying services in

1402
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:32,000
any of the JP courts currently no okay

1403
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,600
um I I know that there's been a point of

1404
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,319
inquiry that has been made at least to

1405
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:37,440
The Chair by a number of individuals

1406
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,199
about your ability to be able to do it

1407
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:41,480
and whether we could legally do it I

1408
01:08:41,480 --> 01:08:43,319
know that there is a question in the law

1409
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,440
associated with it as well um would you

1410
01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:48,560
be able to accomplish that task if you

1411
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,799
were asked to do so yes sir all right

1412
01:08:51,799 --> 01:08:53,960
now the question in my mind is still

1413
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,880
legally can we do it in second should we

1414
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,799
do it um you know I I think I would want

1415
01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:01,000
to hear both from the JPS and the

1416
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,400
consales along those lines and and

1417
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,759
association with those issues and um I

1418
01:09:06,759 --> 01:09:08,520
would invite that discussion well Mr

1419
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,400
chair with all due respect I unless

1420
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,080
y'all got a different briefing than I

1421
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,159
got there you go okay it's it's it's

1422
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:18,040
really a non issue right because you

1423
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,040
think legally can't be done we can't do

1424
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,000
it legally okay I mean legally we cannot

1425
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,400
do what we cannot substitute the fire

1426
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,759
Marshall in for the Constable there is

1427
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:32,359
other remedies that are available to us

1428
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:34,480
under the law you know there could be a

1429
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:37,520
memorandum of um understanding between

1430
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,080
governmental entities that might be able

1431
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,640
to accomplish that task legally and then

1432
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,920
there's you know do do we need

1433
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,159
additional bays in there which I don't

1434
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:47,640
think we do but I would like to hear

1435
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,839
from the JPS and the constables on this

1436
01:09:49,839 --> 01:09:53,239
issue with your permission I I agree I

1437
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:55,920
agree with that but also

1438
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,239
that's a little unusual of a request but

1439
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:01,480
it's going to help me to understand can

1440
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:03,560
and I realize it may be there may be a

1441
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,640
third way but but if you're a JP could

1442
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,440
you just quickly raise your hand I two

1443
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:14,640
three JPS here okay and again we're

1444
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,120
gonna hear you speak but just to make it

1445
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,440
in simple for me how many JPS want

1446
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,760
constable bayts in

1447
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,920
security okay how many JPS want

1448
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,360
Marshall uh bays in

1449
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,400
security I can

1450
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:38,159
appre what yeah but judge yeah but judge

1451
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:40,320
y want something I know but I was okay

1452
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:41,600
it may be hard to get everybody

1453
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,199
something different

1454
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:47,640
but concern different concern I

1455
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,360
appreciate all that's okay so it's a

1456
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,920
little too nuanced to raise your hand

1457
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,080
deal it's fine too um can I ask one

1458
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,239
question before we get to all that how

1459
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:59,480
many constables don't want to be BFFs

1460
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:01,920
and do security any constables that

1461
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,640
don't want to do

1462
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,679
that okay so I'm taking it that all the

1463
01:11:06,679 --> 01:11:09,840
conss here want to do that um but go go

1464
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,640
ahead let's hear from everybody yeah but

1465
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,560
yeah that's all that's well and good but

1466
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,120
again this court has been briefed with

1467
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,600
regards

1468
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,199
to the the the the statutory position of

1469
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:26,520
the constables sure you I I don't care

1470
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,800
what anybody else wants you know I mean

1471
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,960
unless they want to just say hey you

1472
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,239
know I don't want to be in office

1473
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:35,800
anymore uh or take that chance but other

1474
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,440
than that you know that's it I I don't

1475
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:40,400
know what we're talking about I want to

1476
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,679
hear from the uh the JPS on this issue I

1477
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:45,480
they have raised the concern I think

1478
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:46,760
that we need to hear them out I think

1479
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,239
it's fair that we hear them out there

1480
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:51,440
are solutions that that can be offered

1481
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,560
potentially but I want to hear what the

1482
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,239
concern is first

1483
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:59,960
uh just just short somebody anybody

1484
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:03,080
that's fine that's fine yeah they can

1485
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,159
they

1486
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,440
can

1487
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:09,520
okay good morning good morning I am

1488
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,719
judge Woodville from Precinct two place

1489
01:12:11,719 --> 01:12:13,639
two MOS good to see you morning good to

1490
01:12:13,639 --> 01:12:17,280
see you um as I stated before each JP

1491
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,199
has their own concerns for their own

1492
01:12:20,199 --> 01:12:22,480
Court I've never had a problem with

1493
01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:25,400
having a bay I have a dedicated Bay so

1494
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,159
that's not my concern my concern is

1495
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:30,159
overall security for the building not

1496
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:32,480
just my courtroom and not just when I'm

1497
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:36,040
in the court room um so I would rather

1498
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,159
not go into detail in the public forum

1499
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:41,239
as to where we are so um but there are

1500
01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:43,600
other judges who've reached out and had

1501
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,520
some of the same concerns and we do have

1502
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,920
judges who have TR trouble having a bayi

1503
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,280
or finding a ba for court meaning they

1504
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,400
don't have a dedicated bail but those

1505
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,920
are some things that they can discuss

1506
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,639
with you um

1507
01:12:56,639 --> 01:12:59,159
individually I just think

1508
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:02,719
overall every judge

1509
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:06,600
um we just want to make sure that we are

1510
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,120
not sitting in a vulnerable position but

1511
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,679
judge my my my concern I want to

1512
01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:13,800
separate it you know we just got

1513
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,840
Marshall Del Los Santos just stood up

1514
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,440
this court has basically tasked them

1515
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:23,000
with security of all

1516
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,000
ofous facilities I think except Frank

1517
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,520
Crowley and uh yeah so that that's

1518
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,800
that's has been taking care of they're

1519
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,000
in the process of training and taking

1520
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,480
people through that you know with this

1521
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:40,639
with this whole thing of dedicated uh

1522
01:13:40,639 --> 01:13:42,800
security I I just can't even imagine and

1523
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,600
of course I guess all the constables are

1524
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,040
here that uh they are they're not

1525
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,679
dedicated to what statuto the uh there's

1526
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:53,239
two

1527
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:56,040
duties tell people what their duties are

1528
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,000
but there are two duties in statute for

1529
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,360
the Constable I think another um sir

1530
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,960
process bail of the courts well and

1531
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,760
that's that's statutory well I

1532
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,800
understand that however some courts are

1533
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,400
not having B lifs there so I mean that's

1534
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,719
a discussion you can have with the

1535
01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:16,920
consal if you need to remind them of

1536
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,880
what their duties are like I said I have

1537
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,840
a dedicated Bay so that's not my concern

1538
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,600
but you it could be discussed when they

1539
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,400
come up your dedicated Bay's a conable

1540
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,639
sure and you're

1541
01:14:28,639 --> 01:14:31,360
happy with that but not about some other

1542
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,080
issues that should not be discussed in

1543
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,760
public how would you like to us to hear

1544
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,120
you on those issues would you like to go

1545
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,840
through the fire marshal or uh perhaps I

1546
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,280
think the best way to do that is to have

1547
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,280
Mr bazon visit with you privately about

1548
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,120
the security concerns and then Mr bazan

1549
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,639
can report to us will that satisfy

1550
01:14:50,639 --> 01:14:53,040
making sure you're heard um absolutely

1551
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,120
so that's the that was the biggest issue

1552
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,840
with the JPS is that we were never

1553
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,159
included in the conversation about and

1554
01:14:59,159 --> 01:15:02,639
Mr chair I would recommend that in that

1555
01:15:02,639 --> 01:15:04,760
small committee that Mr basan and Miss

1556
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,040
Richardson will uh chair that's

1557
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,239
everybody's at the table good the

1558
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:14,719
constables the JPS and obviously uh the

1559
01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:17,679
Fire Marshall because as you say at the

1560
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:19,400
beginning and like commissioner price

1561
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:20,880
just mentioned there

1562
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,560
statutory uh you know requirements but

1563
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,520
if we have officials that do not feel

1564
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,960
safe at some point of level I think this

1565
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,120
is a discussion that we all have to have

1566
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,360
they all have to have together and come

1567
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,760
to a conclusion because we hear from the

1568
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,239
fire marshal we hear from the JPS we

1569
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:41,000
hear from the constables but I really

1570
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,280
understand that there has not been a

1571
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,239
discussion when all of them are together

1572
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:47,120
at the same time in the same room so I

1573
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,639
think that that will be a good agree way

1574
01:15:49,639 --> 01:15:52,360
to move forward rather than to have it

1575
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,840
in a public setting like this when

1576
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,280
there's safety issues and legal issues

1577
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,600
that should not be discussed security

1578
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,320
should be closed session so if we want

1579
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,400
to put the close session that's all

1580
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,199
Welling good and that's for us but for

1581
01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:10,719
the elected officials the JPS that are

1582
01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:13,360
here like the judge Whitley just say

1583
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,280
there's some considerations of concerns

1584
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,840
if she just speaks freely right now so

1585
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,920
then there will be a meeting of the

1586
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,920
constables JPS and the fire marshal

1587
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,400
before and then and report back to the

1588
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,840
Commissioner's Court and close session

1589
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,760
yes yes that will be with Mr bazon Mr

1590
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,639
Richardson involved that perfect we

1591
01:16:34,639 --> 01:16:37,800
we'll do does that address your concerns

1592
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,920
if we do that absolutely good now let me

1593
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,560
hear do you have anything else may I

1594
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,400
hear from Justice Schwarz please because

1595
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,400
I just saw his face yes judge Moreno

1596
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:53,000
here conosco and G our did I miss anyone

1597
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,159
I I saw and i' Al yes obviously speak

1598
01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:59,629
I'd like to hear from Justice

1599
01:16:59,639 --> 01:17:02,880
Moreno uh good morning I'm Justice Adam

1600
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,560
Schwarz um my concern on this really is

1601
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,480
I I just want things to be consistent

1602
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:10,560
right the the JPS and the citizens that

1603
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,560
are in court I think deserve consistent

1604
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,400
and adequate security regardless of who

1605
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,400
provides it and I think the problem is

1606
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,040
we don't have any kind of metric to

1607
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,960
measure it right nothing's in place for

1608
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,120
that we don't have an orc chart as far

1609
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,360
as like who do we complain to if there's

1610
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,960
a dispute on something who settles that

1611
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,040
what kind of dispute between you and the

1612
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,440
Constable over the security issue yeah

1613
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:37,520
for example uh one thing that had come

1614
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,679
up about a year ago was uh when we first

1615
01:17:40,679 --> 01:17:43,560
got the magnetometers the metal

1616
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,480
detectors there was a discussion about

1617
01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:47,960
whether or not uh the constables would

1618
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,199
be able to

1619
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:52,280
do uh a search they were worried about

1620
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,480
it being a Fourth Amendment violation to

1621
01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:57,760
search somebody and that's the reason

1622
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,280
and that's the reason this court did uh

1623
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,239
basically turned it over to uh the

1624
01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:04,800
marshals we recognize that they I

1625
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,239
understand I'm saying that there was no

1626
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:08,239
like process in place for that I'm

1627
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:09,800
plucking it as an example so if

1628
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,440
something else comes down the pipeline

1629
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:13,040
is it another like few months until we

1630
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,040
can figure that out or it's called a

1631
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,920
marshall

1632
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,719
service isn't the whole thing that

1633
01:18:19,719 --> 01:18:21,120
there's a dispute between the marshals

1634
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,239
and the

1635
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:24,520
constables that is one of the questions

1636
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,159
that before us but what you're asking

1637
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:28,159
for is process as I understand it just

1638
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:29,639
as Schwarz is that right process and

1639
01:18:29,639 --> 01:18:31,840
metrics right right and and you're

1640
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,440
you're saying we need process not just

1641
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:36,440
an answer to that one question but

1642
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:39,199
rather a process that could be handled

1643
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:40,920
not only for that question but any

1644
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,840
question that it comes before us is that

1645
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,600
correct yes sir that's a good summation

1646
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,239
all right good and uh I think that uh Mr

1647
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:50,880
bizon uh should be in charge of that

1648
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,199
process myself uh I don't know how my

1649
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:55,360
colleagues feel about that but I that's

1650
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,199
that's the way we' we've handed it off

1651
01:18:57,199 --> 01:19:00,320
to yeah well I think plus the Marshall

1652
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,600
would be included so just for

1653
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,360
clarification in terms of process you're

1654
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,120
talking about who has oversight of a

1655
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,920
particular area because clearly the

1656
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,520
constables have the courtroom and then

1657
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,880
the buildings and exterior is oversight

1658
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,320
yeah that was not the process we were

1659
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,000
talking about though it goes like this

1660
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,760
uh and I'm using this just as a

1661
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,040
hypothetical but uh just as Schwarz has

1662
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,639
a problem with XYZ who does he turn that

1663
01:19:23,639 --> 01:19:26,280
over to in the past he's called me okay

1664
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:27,960
and you know it's it's been just fine I

1665
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,840
got no complaints no problems but

1666
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,520
actually it's probably more appropriate

1667
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,520
that it goes to you understand and that

1668
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,840
you in turn take it to the Constable if

1669
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,239
it needs to be taken to Constable to the

1670
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:39,760
chief it needs to be taken to the chief

1671
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,760
or to the court if the understand

1672
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,440
completely thank

1673
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:45,800
you you should talk to his cable I

1674
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,199
couldn't agree more I agree the the the

1675
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:50,880
whole process should be communication

1676
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,800
obviously and so I think that the way

1677
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,520
that would would handle is if he's not

1678
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,080
getting satisfaction from the

1679
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,840
conversation he has with his constable

1680
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,880
and his Constable is terrific by the way

1681
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,199
so I don't think there's any problems

1682
01:20:02,199 --> 01:20:04,600
there uh you know then he can go to Mr

1683
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,000
bisan I was just using it as a

1684
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,760
hypothetical I wasn't saying there was a

1685
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,480
problem there are we all clear okay good

1686
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:13,080
good anything else just a schz no sir

1687
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:20,229
thank you just Moreno would you like to

1688
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:23,520
add hello good morning um I don't have

1689
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,639
too much to add I guess that would was

1690
01:20:25,639 --> 01:20:27,840
one of my questions is you know I have

1691
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,679
worked with my Constable just in terms

1692
01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:32,040
of Staffing I think that's been an issue

1693
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,800
which is why I can't have a consistent

1694
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,400
bayt all the time um so we now have

1695
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:38,920
someone who's Manning the core all the

1696
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,520
time but it's changing um and so again

1697
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,960
that would be if a staffing concern that

1698
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,120
should be more so not just with the cons

1699
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:47,840
but you're saying now with Mr bazan's

1700
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,719
office or is that something that we need

1701
01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:52,400
to bring up well I think that what this

1702
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,440
committee is suggesting to the chair is

1703
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:58,199
that that uh the constables and the JPS

1704
01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:00,880
get together with the staff no Court

1705
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,280
members included so you all can you know

1706
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,960
get a process that is Will streamline a

1707
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,800
metrics and a process that will solve

1708
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,040
some of the questions that you know

1709
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,639
we've seen arise from the JPS from the

1710
01:21:15,639 --> 01:21:18,600
constables and from the fire marshal so

1711
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,639
we can have a process for it and then uh

1712
01:21:22,639 --> 01:21:25,320
bring some of the solutions to Executive

1713
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,960
session I would recommend mras and Miss

1714
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,560
Richardson in case that you're involved

1715
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,400
also that Dr Watkins is involved in this

1716
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,760
conversations as well because I have

1717
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,120
heard everything under the Sun from no

1718
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,800
response to some response and some

1719
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,280
people that are really unhappy with the

1720
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,880
whole process so uh I would recommend

1721
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,120
that it's a it's a committee that can

1722
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,520
solve an issue and bring It Forward yeah

1723
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,840
I I appreciate all of that look you're a

1724
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:57,159
lawyer and my my my concern is I don't

1725
01:21:57,159 --> 01:21:58,719
want constables over there telling me

1726
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:00,880
how to build a damn road I'm not going

1727
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,120
to tell them how that's them and their

1728
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,840
constituents they got two duties in

1729
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,600
statute two bail if the

1730
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:14,280
court and serve process period what this

1731
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,760
court has done is said there are common

1732
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,320
areas that apparently you constituents

1733
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,679
others have complained about insert the

1734
01:22:24,679 --> 01:22:29,400
Marshall service funded them Etc but

1735
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:30,719
there's got to be a collaboration

1736
01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:32,880
between you and eosa as far is that

1737
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:37,760
Court area I mean I I just I I I hear

1738
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,760
you know I I hear this but at the same

1739
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,920
time they serve process and they bail up

1740
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:48,679
the court if it's two constables then

1741
01:22:48,679 --> 01:22:50,199
the elected official got to ba up the

1742
01:22:50,199 --> 01:22:52,199
court or decide if they going to do

1743
01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:54,960
process but I think budget

1744
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,679
has appropriately based on stand I know

1745
01:22:56,679 --> 01:22:57,760
you're going through a staffing

1746
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,400
standards now and they're doing that

1747
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,679
whole review and at the end of the day

1748
01:23:02,679 --> 01:23:05,800
that's about Equity but in terms of

1749
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,840
their

1750
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,159
duties that's it that's all the statute

1751
01:23:11,159 --> 01:23:14,800
says does not say they get Kines does

1752
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,800
not say they run traffic reports you

1753
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,040
know doesn't say any of that it says bth

1754
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:24,560
the court and serve process period

1755
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,360
correct and I don't disagree again the

1756
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,040
issue I think is just unfortunately

1757
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,679
underst staffed right now at our

1758
01:23:29,679 --> 01:23:32,639
Precinct um which is who's

1759
01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:36,080
understaff have two constables the bay

1760
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:37,679
that I had before has been out on

1761
01:23:37,679 --> 01:23:39,920
medical leave and then I believe there

1762
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,280
just some staffing that we've talked

1763
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:42,920
about and discussed and so we have

1764
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,040
worked together to get someone there

1765
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,360
consistent well to have someone there

1766
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,239
consistently but to have one person

1767
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:51,600
there consistently where it's changing

1768
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,199
all the time I think is also another

1769
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:55,880
concern because they don't know the

1770
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,239
process or the procedures well that

1771
01:23:58,239 --> 01:23:59,639
makes everything she's saying makes

1772
01:23:59,639 --> 01:24:01,480
sense well it makes sense but this is

1773
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:03,679
that this is the same this is not too

1774
01:24:03,679 --> 01:24:06,000
different and dis similar than what we

1775
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,120
were hearing across the highway with

1776
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,560
regards to my

1777
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,120
bayith that's coner if the

1778
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,199
constables if they decide that they

1779
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:20,000
gonna put you in one day and may the

1780
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,199
next day then that's that's up the they

1781
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:26,159
have to bayt the call Court over there

1782
01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:28,159
we have the same issue in the sheriff's

1783
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:31,800
depart that's my bay you got whoever the

1784
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,199
sheriff ass signs it's the same way with

1785
01:24:34,199 --> 01:24:36,159
the Constable we don't get a chance I

1786
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:37,520
just got through sayand I don't want

1787
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:38,880
them out there telling me how to grade

1788
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,239
no Road and I'm not going to tell them

1789
01:24:41,239 --> 01:24:42,520
who they put in there they don't know

1790
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,719
who shows up for work who's out on

1791
01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:47,600
that's on them just Maro you're not

1792
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,920
concerned about who's the bayth just

1793
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,920
that you have one true cor right no some

1794
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,840
consistency because jury trial like for

1795
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,600
instance I have a certain process with a

1796
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,679
jury trial or bench trials so it's

1797
01:24:59,679 --> 01:25:03,800
having to teach a new conable or Deputy

1798
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,760
this is the process of how I like it so

1799
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,360
then there is that learning curve if

1800
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,000
there's always someone new right you you

1801
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,360
don't care who it is so long as they

1802
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,679
know the process yes and maybe that is

1803
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:17,360
something just with um the My Constable

1804
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:18,639
that we can work together and putting

1805
01:25:18,639 --> 01:25:20,520
something on paper but I think that has

1806
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,360
been some part of the difficulty as well

1807
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,800
is just not having that consistent but

1808
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,840
that's more I due to staffing issues

1809
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,080
which is why bring that up right and I

1810
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,159
think being heard is very important and

1811
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:31,920
so I hopefully this meeting that we're

1812
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,840
going to have with all the conses all

1813
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,719
the JPS Mr bazon M

1814
01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:39,840
Richardson uh Dr Watkins and maybe staff

1815
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,320
from the commissioner court but no

1816
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,239
commissioner there I think would be uh

1817
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:46,440
the way to handle that are you okay with

1818
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:49,280
that yes that's fine all right good

1819
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,000
thank you Mr chair thank you judge uh

1820
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,840
constables anybody here good thank you

1821
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,199
good morning I'm Tracy Gully the conable

1822
01:25:58,199 --> 01:26:02,480
for Precinct one um my JPS are not here

1823
01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:03,960
simply because I can speak on their

1824
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,960
behalf I have that uh trust uh and they

1825
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,159
trust in me I've been working with these

1826
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:12,679
JPS um well actually I've been there for

1827
01:26:12,679 --> 01:26:15,719
28 years we have never had a problem

1828
01:26:15,719 --> 01:26:18,280
with BFF in the court those are our

1829
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,840
duties the statute says that no one can

1830
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,239
do it other than a sheriff or a cable we

1831
01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:25,239
know our duties it's pretty much like

1832
01:26:25,239 --> 01:26:27,239
you're trying to police the police we

1833
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,520
know our job as far

1834
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,920
as the JPS saying that they don't have

1835
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,400
the conss and I have had meetings and

1836
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,080
let's just say this respectfully so this

1837
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,159
meeting should have come be uh come

1838
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:44,119
before now and we wouldn't have this

1839
01:26:44,119 --> 01:26:45,480
problem everyone would be on the same

1840
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:47,800
page as far as the statue is concerned

1841
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,000
um when we talk about what JPS want and

1842
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,080
what they're not getting from their CS

1843
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,360
that that's when they should have a

1844
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,560
meeting with their CS it shouldn't be to

1845
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,719
where we're in this courtroom trying to

1846
01:26:59,719 --> 01:27:01,080
decide or they're they're having an

1847
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,639
issue with their CS because they're not

1848
01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:04,800
fully staffed or because they're not

1849
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,440
there on time that's something very

1850
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:09,480
simple that we should not take up your

1851
01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:12,560
time dealing with something of that

1852
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,920
nature uh each cable goes through a bail

1853
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,239
of training so they know how to operate

1854
01:27:19,239 --> 01:27:22,440
in a courtroom this JP may want

1855
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:24,400
something for this Council to stand on

1856
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:25,880
this side or that side that's very

1857
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:27,880
simple but every Constable has been

1858
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,080
trained everyone knows what it is to be

1859
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,000
a b and how to conduct themselves as a

1860
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,040
bay when they're in the courtroom now as

1861
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,400
far as Precinct one we have a bayi that

1862
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,199
that's I is designated for that

1863
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:45,520
courtroom every single day and if that

1864
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,480
bay is out trust me everyone I carry

1865
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:51,199
Commission on can go to their courtroom

1866
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:53,080
and everyone does it may be a DAT that

1867
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,480
that BFF is out see or something happens

1868
01:27:55,480 --> 01:27:57,639
or vacation any and every one of my

1869
01:27:57,639 --> 01:28:00,280
deputies are qualified to stand in that

1870
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,920
courtroom and they do so I can't speak

1871
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,719
for any other prec precin one does not

1872
01:28:05,719 --> 01:28:07,119
have a problem and will never have a

1873
01:28:07,119 --> 01:28:08,639
problem now when we want to talk about

1874
01:28:08,639 --> 01:28:10,920
safety concerns as you say that's

1875
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,600
another uh that's another meeting behind

1876
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,679
closed doors whatever we need to have

1877
01:28:15,679 --> 01:28:17,679
and that will be fine meeting security

1878
01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:20,119
yeah that's way overdue with that but as

1879
01:28:20,119 --> 01:28:22,040
far as Bing we shouldn't even be here

1880
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:22,719
with

1881
01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:26,000
this well conable thank you yeah and and

1882
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,239
conable I appreciate that you know one

1883
01:28:28,239 --> 01:28:30,920
of the things we've heard from JPS is is

1884
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,320
that you know that that there has been a

1885
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,199
failure to

1886
01:28:36,199 --> 01:28:40,400
um have someone there on

1887
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,840
time number one so they can get their

1888
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,360
dockets done and move forward I'm not

1889
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,360
saying that's your issue I'm just saying

1890
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,080
that has been the concern I understand

1891
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,080
that only reason I keep reminding that

1892
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,719
is the

1893
01:28:55,719 --> 01:28:59,080
responsibility of the Cel if they don't

1894
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,360
do nothing and I don't know the statute

1895
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,880
doesn't talk about which is for baay if

1896
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,560
and order the process they just give

1897
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,920
them two duties okay and that means that

1898
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,119
if all of your conable uh Constable

1899
01:29:12,119 --> 01:29:13,280
Gully doesn't show up that mean you got

1900
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,360
to go up there and bail it I and I know

1901
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,280
you do I'm just I'm I'm making that

1902
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,800
clear but they want to be you know they

1903
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,679
somebody's got to post up when the court

1904
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:25,920
opens period any other con thank

1905
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,760
you any other comment any comments well

1906
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,560
no oh I'm sorry and I saw also conable

1907
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,520
SCH over there yeah good morning I am

1908
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,920
cable Hammond Precinct to um I second

1909
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,119
everything that cable Gully has spoke on

1910
01:29:40,119 --> 01:29:41,960
she's kind of our spokesperson when we

1911
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,239
have the meetings um this was brand new

1912
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:47,159
to us too we were surprised at what was

1913
01:29:47,159 --> 01:29:49,280
going on as well and that is why we had

1914
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,800
a meeting and we probably had a meeting

1915
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,280
about a week before the judges did so we

1916
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,360
just remember as cbles coming together

1917
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,639
um about the fall of last year asking

1918
01:29:58,639 --> 01:30:01,880
for particular items um for our courts

1919
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,800
and we were asking for you know um one

1920
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,360
of our you know one of our positions to

1921
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,000
be you know turned into a 66 instead of

1922
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,239
a 65 we asked for tasers so we were

1923
01:30:13,239 --> 01:30:15,760
asking for things collaboratively and

1924
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:16,880
that's what we heard back from the

1925
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,280
courts of well possibly you know let's

1926
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,360
see about the marshals Bale and the you

1927
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,239
know of course all that so what I did

1928
01:30:25,239 --> 01:30:27,239
when we got a report is I sent that to

1929
01:30:27,239 --> 01:30:29,760
both my judges one being judge cantino

1930
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,320
with Phi that you guys just heard from

1931
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,440
and the other being Margaret O'Brien so

1932
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:35,560
I brought I keep them up to speed we

1933
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,159
never heard anything else about it to

1934
01:30:37,159 --> 01:30:38,920
all of a sudden oh yeah this is a done

1935
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,159
deal and that's when we had a meeting so

1936
01:30:41,159 --> 01:30:43,639
yes that is our job as coun Gully has

1937
01:30:43,639 --> 01:30:46,159
spoken as commissioner price has spoken

1938
01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:48,239
those are our two duties that for the

1939
01:30:48,239 --> 01:30:50,760
statute and we do that if my bayts are

1940
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,239
not in the court my judges both can tell

1941
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:55,080
you I will will bayt the court and I

1942
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:56,840
have often been in the courts bayi in

1943
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,040
the courts and filling in for my bayts

1944
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:00,320
and that's our

1945
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,520
duties thank you appreciate you uh

1946
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,040
conable Roso did you want to say

1947
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,760
anything thank you it won't

1948
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,719
K and uh cons Curry you want to say

1949
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:13,400
anything okay good I'll make mine pretty

1950
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,080
quick uh first of all I wanted to go

1951
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,360
ahead and address something about the

1952
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,679
idea of the uh mandum of understanding

1953
01:31:19,679 --> 01:31:21,280
yeah so back when this start all

1954
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,840
occurring back in November we started

1955
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,280
hearing about it I made made a phone

1956
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:25,880
call to the Texas Justice Court Training

1957
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,280
Center which is um it's an Avenue for us

1958
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,520
to for the JPS and conss to also seek

1959
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,040
legal advice so I told them about what

1960
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,880
was going on here and the situation what

1961
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,639
they thought they said well the solution

1962
01:31:37,639 --> 01:31:40,239
could be maybe you could possibly do a

1963
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:42,840
memoral understanding so nextly I

1964
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,639
reached out to our civil Ada Todd sers

1965
01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:50,040
Todd sers we said we cannot enter in a

1966
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,320
memorandum of understanding because um

1967
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,679
we could Tech technically in his opinion

1968
01:31:55,679 --> 01:31:57,560
could be removed from office for

1969
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,880
entering into some type of agreement by

1970
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:03,920
not performing our uh statutory duties

1971
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,760
um nextly in regards to the court

1972
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,320
billing assessments uh back in the

1973
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:13,040
summer uh 2022 I reached out to the

1974
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:14,880
state of Texas the office of Court

1975
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,560
Administration and they provide a free

1976
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,000
service they go out and they assess all

1977
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,960
any and all County buildings for us

1978
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,920
security assessments so uh they actually

1979
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,119
came out and performed and went to all

1980
01:32:29,119 --> 01:32:31,520
the satellite offices in October

1981
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,840
2022 uh the report was made and given to

1982
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,639
us in 2023 so they identified all the

1983
01:32:38,639 --> 01:32:41,199
issues and the areas and screening where

1984
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:44,080
to place more cameras uh how to fix

1985
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,040
certain uh deficiencies in the parking

1986
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,080
garage and they went through over and

1987
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,800
over so those um items have been

1988
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,440
identified since October I mean March of

1989
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:57,639
202 so um just like my colleague said um

1990
01:32:57,639 --> 01:32:59,719
we you know I'm I for one and on for

1991
01:32:59,719 --> 01:33:01,320
this as well they've been doing that

1992
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,800
with all of our bill that that's not new

1993
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:05,880
that's what they do OCA they've done

1994
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,520
that so we and we have responded to it

1995
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:09,600
that's the reason we've given it to the

1996
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:14,119
Marshal talk okay period okay thank you

1997
01:33:14,119 --> 01:33:16,920
coun Curry was good to see you good

1998
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,000
morning all I'm Henry Curry Dallas

1999
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,199
County Council pring 3 and all I want to

2000
01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:22,920
state is as Comm Mr Price stated as

2001
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,920
councilors we only have two statutory

2002
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,719
duties serve civil process and baile the

2003
01:33:27,719 --> 01:33:30,800
Justice Court of our said Precinct and

2004
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:32,560
after meeting with all my colleagues no

2005
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,880
one is trying to not do that or not

2006
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,520
provide those Services what we need is

2007
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,119
extra Staffing because you have to take

2008
01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:40,880
into consideration my office in

2009
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,960
particular not including myself I have

2010
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,080
14 sworn personnel with two

2011
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:46,639
administrative staff that leads me with

2012
01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:49,320
12 deputies two of which are that gives

2013
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,719
me 10 uh 10 deputies to cover 96 square

2014
01:33:52,719 --> 01:33:55,440
miles with 10 deputies cover 96 square

2015
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:57,239
miles at any given time I could have

2016
01:33:57,239 --> 01:34:00,440
someone out on sick leave on vacation on

2017
01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:02,440
training we're required to do training

2018
01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:04,239
so anyone can be out of for an extended

2019
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:06,719
period of time at any given time so my

2020
01:34:06,719 --> 01:34:09,040
office is typically operating between 6:

2021
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,119
to 8 deputies per day in the field

2022
01:34:12,119 --> 01:34:14,840
covering 96 square miles that's why we

2023
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,480
need extra Staffing we don't have any

2024
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,880
kind of relief factors built in to cover

2025
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,679
us to assist us when B out when deput

2026
01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:23,560
out on training or just out on any type

2027
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,800
of extended leave so we're not trying to

2028
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,080
uh negate any of our statutory duties

2029
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,199
we're here to do that we just need the

2030
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:32,920
staff as you all are willing to find the

2031
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,239
mar to do it find us we'll do anything

2032
01:34:35,239 --> 01:34:36,639
that you need us to do we're here to do

2033
01:34:36,639 --> 01:34:39,400
our duties and perform them at at a high

2034
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:40,920
level so just give us the staff in the

2035
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,679
do can ask a quick question here it

2036
01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:46,719
sounds like uh that there are a variety

2037
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:49,760
of meetings among all of you to discuss

2038
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,840
um different parts of your

2039
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,040
responsibilities both to the court and

2040
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,719
then to to your um uh uh other

2041
01:34:57,719 --> 01:35:01,199
duties um is that something then to put

2042
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:04,000
together a proposal if you need more

2043
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,719
staff yes currently we have UTA doing

2044
01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:09,520
our um Staffing um uh they're doing the

2045
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,000
Staffing assessment right now you guys

2046
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,480
approve yeah if we have analysis as part

2047
01:35:15,480 --> 01:35:18,639
of the budget and working with the 526

2048
01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:20,920
yes ma'am yeah if we had the Staffing we

2049
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:22,920
can accommodate and do anything that the

2050
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,760
JPS need provide any extra security as

2051
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:27,719
needed but we need the staff to do due

2052
01:35:27,719 --> 01:35:29,480
to current staff

2053
01:35:29,480 --> 01:35:32,159
s any extra duties at this time and

2054
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:33,800
that's all it is but you know the

2055
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,080
problem constable and uh all du respect

2056
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,040
like you said if you just St those Duty

2057
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,159
that's the reason this court is

2058
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:44,719
authorized budget to do the study

2059
01:35:44,719 --> 01:35:46,520
because everybody if you let them tell

2060
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,440
it you know they need you know more than

2061
01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:54,040
they have the study when they finish

2062
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,520
it'll it'll tell us it'll tell us and

2063
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,040
and one of the things this court has

2064
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,840
always tried to do is do a staffing

2065
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,199
standard so that all the equity you got

2066
01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:07,040
96 Dallas county is 955 square miles so

2067
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,800
I do a division between you and five

2068
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,880
five into 955 square miles you know each

2069
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,600
one of you you know got you know got

2070
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:19,119
170 you know square miles so I mean hey

2071
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:23,159
what see so I mean we hear you you know

2072
01:36:23,159 --> 01:36:26,840
I I I tell my colleagues hell I got 70%

2073
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,080
of the

2074
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,760
county 16% they they ain't giving me no

2075
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,920
more I mean I we got an equation on the

2076
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,760
mileage okay yeah with all due respect

2077
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,840
commissioner uh on that same note my

2078
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,800
office is number two number-wise

2079
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,920
production wise we get the second most

2080
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,400
process in yet I'm number four in

2081
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,000
Staffing and that's something I've been

2082
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:50,280
speaking on and address since I've been

2083
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,560
in office I'm up at number two I'm right

2084
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,600
behind priy War production wise but in

2085
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,280
Staffing I'm number four on the list I'm

2086
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,639
Number Two production wise number four

2087
01:36:58,639 --> 01:37:01,320
in Staffing so my hands are just kind of

2088
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,560
tied I'm not trying to negate or not do

2089
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,480
any of my sory duties okay U we we'll

2090
01:37:07,480 --> 01:37:09,159
make sure that you guys get the calendar

2091
01:37:09,159 --> 01:37:10,639
because they've already started the

2092
01:37:10,639 --> 01:37:15,800
process um right yes we've already yeah

2093
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,400
UT they all been very and I just want to

2094
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:19,679
point out three little buddies that I

2095
01:37:19,679 --> 01:37:21,239
want to just state in in reference to

2096
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:22,520
that Staffing concern that's going on

2097
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,159
right now is three three things that are

2098
01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:25,960
not taken in concern for the duties that

2099
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,280
we do number one is the time aspect um

2100
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,239
in 2001 Dallas County reduced down from

2101
01:37:31,239 --> 01:37:33,280
8 precincts to five so we all have a lot

2102
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,679
of ground to cover so number one is

2103
01:37:34,679 --> 01:37:36,400
number time and I don't think people

2104
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:37,960
take into consideration how long it

2105
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,199
takes to get from A to B to make these

2106
01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:41,560
different stops that we make to serve

2107
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,040
this process number two is the is is the

2108
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:45,960
Staffing issue and and what I mean by

2109
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:49,440
that is we don't have any built in extra

2110
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:51,360
Staffing to cover we just have the

2111
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:52,760
Staffing because Dallas County based

2112
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,040
everything on numbers but we don't have

2113
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,480
any overflow Staffing or relief Staffing

2114
01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:59,880
to cover when a deputy is in training or

2115
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:01,920
when a deput is out on extended Le and

2116
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,679
number three is they look at these

2117
01:38:03,679 --> 01:38:06,920
numbers so we're Justified as having 250

2118
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,320
process per Deputy but no one takes in

2119
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:10,679
consideration the amount of attempts

2120
01:38:10,679 --> 01:38:13,360
that are done and and and and and make

2121
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,639
going out on these process we got 250

2122
01:38:15,639 --> 01:38:17,639
process we're doing a minimum of three

2123
01:38:17,639 --> 01:38:19,119
to four attempts on each one of these

2124
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:21,239
process so nothing is taken into

2125
01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:23,040
consideration for that and those are

2126
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,560
just three points that a major concern

2127
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:27,800
in our staffing and what we need but you

2128
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,480
all are having to do that yeah okay but

2129
01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:32,080
I'm just saying it's not it's not taking

2130
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:33,679
into consideration because it's a lot of

2131
01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:35,880
time involved in all of that no I I get

2132
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,639
it and that's what the study that's when

2133
01:38:37,639 --> 01:38:39,320
she bought the study to the court that's

2134
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,960
what we're hoping the study will reveal

2135
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:43,719
yes sir but we want to see equity in

2136
01:38:43,719 --> 01:38:45,639
this D I appreciate the fact that you're

2137
01:38:45,639 --> 01:38:47,639
you know number two in terms of

2138
01:38:47,639 --> 01:38:50,599
production process um you say number

2139
01:38:50,599 --> 01:38:53,480
four in terms of Staffing no we will see

2140
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:55,239
I'm not gonna say anything about uh what

2141
01:38:55,239 --> 01:38:58,360
you inherited so anyway so you inherited

2142
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,400
what you inherited you go from there

2143
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,239
okay that's it thank you all so much for

2144
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:03,760
your time good to see you Constable

2145
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,440
thank you any other constables all of

2146
01:39:06,440 --> 01:39:08,840
you y'all thank you for being here

2147
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,679
really everything and I think it's very

2148
01:39:10,679 --> 01:39:12,560
important hang on Eddie did you want to

2149
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,800
say anything no no yeah sorry sorry

2150
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:19,360
thank you C all right good all right uh

2151
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:20,560
thank you all we're moving on to the

2152
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,920
next topic if we canless anybody has

2153
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,199
otherwise thank you all for being here I

2154
01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:26,920
mean I think this is a great opportunity

2155
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,199
to you know have a good discussion about

2156
01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:32,000
the needs thank you yeah this this next

2157
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,320
Mr chairman is countywide overtime and

2158
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,800
compensatory time good let's hear from

2159
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,679
uh budget budget yeah and uh before that

2160
01:39:41,679 --> 01:39:44,119
Mr chairman I I I spent some time

2161
01:39:44,119 --> 01:39:47,199
yesterday walking the floors over in the

2162
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:51,840
jail uh making rounds and uh it's

2163
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,599
interesting when I look at this over

2164
01:39:53,599 --> 01:39:56,639
time peace

2165
01:39:56,639 --> 01:39:59,840
um it doesn't now the coun just got be

2166
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,560
talking about their their their need for

2167
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,920
for for more people we we have some

2168
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:10,440
issues with regards to what is really

2169
01:40:10,440 --> 01:40:13,320
overtime versus compensatory time in

2170
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,520
that facility and I said that to Dr

2171
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,760
Watkins before Chief herock left he did

2172
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:26,480
a study of not the 1 to 48 but on every

2173
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:31,239
floor in that jail in

2174
01:40:31,239 --> 01:40:33,760
suicide they don't get a chance not only

2175
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,960
do they have I'm calling the rfr finders

2176
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,679
that they have to time out they have to

2177
01:40:39,679 --> 01:40:41,920
go to Every

2178
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:46,719
sale and wake the individual in the sale

2179
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:49,760
up make sure they're moving put eyes on

2180
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:54,159
them and then time in it takes just in

2181
01:40:54,159 --> 01:40:57,840
the West Tower alone it takes

2182
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:03,000
them 11 almost 12 minutes to make the

2183
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,440
rounds they get a chance to sit down for

2184
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:07,840
10 minutes they're back up because

2185
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,320
they're having to make 15minute rounds

2186
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:12,400
which means they're having to do it on a

2187
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,719
13 minute time so so they'll be on time

2188
01:41:15,719 --> 01:41:18,800
keep in mind the jail commission gets a

2189
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:23,639
chance to access these timers and they

2190
01:41:23,639 --> 01:41:27,639
have to do 15minute rounds in

2191
01:41:27,639 --> 01:41:32,119
every um mental uh

2192
01:41:32,119 --> 01:41:34,920
behavioral pod in that West Tower and

2193
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,560
I'm most concerned about the West Tower

2194
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,480
primarily because those individuals and

2195
01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:41,400
I am I do want to put this on the record

2196
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,360
Dr Watkin they say they do not make them

2197
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:48,560
work mandatory backto back on the floor

2198
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,360
they said once they do it if they have

2199
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,400
to do mandatory they take them and and

2200
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,679
put them they get a chance to choose

2201
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:57,639
where they go after that not being on

2202
01:41:57,639 --> 01:41:59,880
the floor and I said that Mr chairman

2203
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:01,960
because when I went through all of these

2204
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:05,080
these overtime and these updates and all

2205
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,440
I told Dr Watkins um just like Council

2206
01:42:08,440 --> 01:42:14,470
was complain that this needs some real

2207
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:17,840
adjustment okay so uh I sent you guys

2208
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,560
all the presentation that commissioner

2209
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,320
summon asked me to put together

2210
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,480
yesterday afternoon so I sent it to this

2211
01:42:23,480 --> 01:42:25,840
morning um and it's the slide that's up

2212
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,199
on the

2213
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:29,560
um presentation and you should have it

2214
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:36,750
in your email too we do

2215
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:38,880
okay oh I thought you want to ask

2216
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,040
question Dr Daniel okay so just starting

2217
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,719
off the overtime for 25 we went through

2218
01:42:44,719 --> 01:42:46,880
a uh exercise as part of the budget

2219
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,320
process making sure that we did allocate

2220
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:54,320
appropriate um $22.8 million

2221
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,280
as part of FY 25's countywide overtime

2222
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,679
budget and so you'll see from 23 to 24

2223
01:43:00,679 --> 01:43:02,320
the difference as far as appropriated

2224
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,440
budget and that was based on a

2225
01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:07,000
discussion throughout the mid year to uh

2226
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:08,920
the end of year to make sure that the

2227
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:14,639
fy2 budget did have a nice size of a

2228
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:18,440
overtime budget which was 22.8

2229
01:43:18,440 --> 01:43:21,040
Million okay so what I've been sending

2230
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:22,960
you guys since CU you guys asked for

2231
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:26,080
this this is part of moving forward and

2232
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:30,040
I try to send it to you after the uh

2233
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:31,800
payroll has been posted for that

2234
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,760
particular month so I've been trying to

2235
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,679
send it to you monthly um the updated

2236
01:43:36,679 --> 01:43:38,280
payroll for

2237
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,320
actuals in a comparison for the previous

2238
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,840
year so what you see there is 23 24 and

2239
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,639
25 23 and 24 is the actual end of year

2240
01:43:47,639 --> 01:43:50,800
versus 25 is year to dat through January

2241
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,159
keep in mind that's only through January

2242
01:43:53,159 --> 01:43:55,639
second payroll it does not include the

2243
01:43:55,639 --> 01:43:58,639
31st it has not been posted as of

2244
01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:01,920
yesterday when we checked um So based on

2245
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,000
the end of year projection we would be

2246
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,560
at 24.8 million if we stayed at the

2247
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,960
status quo if we stayed at the same

2248
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,199
level at this point and nothing changed

2249
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:16,440
this is the pre projection um but keep

2250
01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:20,159
in mind this year um one of the things

2251
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:22,639
that was included in the budget was

2252
01:44:22,639 --> 01:44:24,840
election we had a presidential elections

2253
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,119
and $2.7 million of that is elections

2254
01:44:28,119 --> 01:44:30,800
over time so when you pull that out of

2255
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,000
it it'll be a little less and then I do

2256
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:34,719
know that they have a May and June you

2257
01:44:34,719 --> 01:44:36,440
might say well won't it go higher but

2258
01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:38,679
it's a different type of election so

2259
01:44:38,679 --> 01:44:40,719
there's not going to be that high number

2260
01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:43,360
of uh overtime for those two May and

2261
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:44,920
June so let me talk about your

2262
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:46,679
assumptions assuming that everything

2263
01:44:46,679 --> 01:44:50,080
Remains the Same do you see any um

2264
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,080
variations Potentials in the future yeah

2265
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,719
yes sir um yeah you want me to go to the

2266
01:44:55,719 --> 01:44:58,320
last slide yes please yeah that's what I

2267
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,239
was just saying okay so those are some

2268
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:02,320
potential opportuni to assist with

2269
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,199
overtime and I might need Mr Lewis and

2270
01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:06,639
Mr Wilson to help with this we have

2271
01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:08,800
TeleStaff implementation which we've

2272
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,080
talked about previously Chrono updates

2273
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:13,800
uh no training is currently underway

2274
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:15,960
with departments countywide I think what

2275
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,599
we're learning is based on our meeting

2276
01:45:18,599 --> 01:45:22,520
on uh Friday with some Association

2277
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:24,679
members that I think we still need to

2278
01:45:24,679 --> 01:45:28,040
figure out punch versus actual punch and

2279
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,719
Miss punch because I'm not saying get

2280
01:45:30,719 --> 01:45:32,320
permission from them but just some of

2281
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,880
that conversation is just understanding

2282
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,520
we need the data to see who's all

2283
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,679
punching and who's not punching well the

2284
01:45:39,679 --> 01:45:42,840
difference is and Mr L come the

2285
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:46,560
difference is yesterday Mr chairman we

2286
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,560
talked about first of all there's a

2287
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,080
there's

2288
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,080
22 time keep

2289
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,400
that's where the issue is coming up

2290
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,920
number yes sir okay I want to put it on

2291
01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:02,000
the record because we were just now able

2292
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:06,360
to extract that we got 22 timekeepers in

2293
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,960
that in that facility over there and

2294
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,080
they're not charging the time

2295
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,639
appropriately okay yes okay that's what

2296
01:46:14,639 --> 01:46:17,119
we learned through some discussion that

2297
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:19,560
is the costing and the coding so say for

2298
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,360
instance if I'm um stationed in nor

2299
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,000
Tower but then I do overtime in a

2300
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,760
different Tower I'm being charged to

2301
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,320
North Tower and not the other Tower so

2302
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,040
it's a coding issue um within the

2303
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,880
sheriff we're hoping I I asked payroll

2304
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,599
well how are they how can we correct it

2305
01:46:38,599 --> 01:46:42,149
and what was the

2306
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:44,480
response well this is uh Lester Lewis

2307
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:46,159
director of the Erp transformation

2308
01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:48,280
office so we have a couple options and

2309
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:49,520
we're going to look at so there's things

2310
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,280
we can do with the the clocks so you

2311
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,400
could take the clocks and could group

2312
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,320
The Clock assign it to the let's say to

2313
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,440
the North Tower so that every time you

2314
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:00,719
swipe there then that would be charged

2315
01:47:00,719 --> 01:47:02,360
that way because what happens is

2316
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,280
everyone has a default charge and that's

2317
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,280
what Dr Watkins is referring to so your

2318
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,239
default charge always happens but if you

2319
01:47:09,239 --> 01:47:12,400
go somewhere else and you swipe then if

2320
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,320
that isn't coded then you're charged for

2321
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,119
your default so you're not being costed

2322
01:47:16,119 --> 01:47:17,760
in the right place for the overtime so

2323
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,360
that's part of the problem so we're

2324
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:20,840
going to look at a couple options to see

2325
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:23,280
if we can help address that what are

2326
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:24,800
those

2327
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,119
options the assignment of the physical

2328
01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:28,560
clock so the clocks aren't assigned

2329
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:29,920
there're just a group of clocks and you

2330
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,840
can along in those but we could take the

2331
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,000
clocks but we need to work with the

2332
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:35,239
sheriff's office to see if that's going

2333
01:47:35,239 --> 01:47:36,800
to cause them any trouble in their

2334
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,080
operation so we can't just blank and say

2335
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:40,400
that'll work without affecting their

2336
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,080
operation but that is at least an option

2337
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,639
understood thank you okay great

2338
01:47:45,639 --> 01:47:48,760
job and then the other was making sure

2339
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:51,119
the coding is correct like if I know

2340
01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:53,480
you're going to a different location

2341
01:47:53,480 --> 01:47:55,040
the time Keepers going back to the

2342
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,760
timekeepers and I don't know if Mr

2343
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:01,629
Wilson want to speak to

2344
01:48:01,639 --> 01:48:04,520
that apparently not no I I I was just

2345
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,480
thinking through what Mr L say Bob

2346
01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:08,480
Wilson HR Director

2347
01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:11,679
um so so coding is important ultimately

2348
01:48:11,679 --> 01:48:14,599
where the where the charges go but you

2349
01:48:14,599 --> 01:48:16,239
know I

2350
01:48:16,239 --> 01:48:20,880
would if I kind of zoom out right from

2351
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,960
from just

2352
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:24,199
aggregate what do we spend at the

2353
01:48:24,199 --> 01:48:26,800
sheriff's department the way that I can

2354
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,599
begin to actually manage that right

2355
01:48:29,599 --> 01:48:32,679
where people work and to eliminate the

2356
01:48:32,679 --> 01:48:34,840
number of edits that supervisors are

2357
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,599
having to do is to get every employee to

2358
01:48:37,599 --> 01:48:40,360
punch in and out for every shift right

2359
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,760
there's certainty that I'm getting paid

2360
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,199
what I earned and then there's certainty

2361
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:47,760
and this is perfect world right if every

2362
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,639
employee punched in and out we didn't

2363
01:48:49,639 --> 01:48:52,400
have to edit that data rolls right from

2364
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,960
the time clock into Kronos and gets

2365
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,880
processed when employees don't punch we

2366
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,880
start to get behind the power curve on

2367
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:03,760
getting correct time in the system

2368
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,920
through edits that builds and what

2369
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,520
happens is when that builds it puts

2370
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,280
payroll Under Pressure to execute right

2371
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,080
so we've just moved the problem from the

2372
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:15,679
accountability is in the sheriff's

2373
01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:17,000
department to ensure that every person

2374
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,080
punches what we've done is it's we've

2375
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,920
moved it to payroll and so payroll is is

2376
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,280
delaying when they can execute in an

2377
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,480
attempt to be good team players and get

2378
01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:30,520
the hours in it just creates it's fra

2379
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,280
for Peril for Creative mistakes and

2380
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,239
errors and so if I had one asked today

2381
01:49:35,239 --> 01:49:37,440
it would be that every employee punches

2382
01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:39,400
in and punches out that's what that's

2383
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,880
again we we we had to first of all

2384
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,239
extract and note Mr chairman that that

2385
01:49:44,239 --> 01:49:48,400
the Tim Keepers you know to know it is

2386
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,360
it the timekeeper

2387
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,960
responsibility is 22 of them they don't

2388
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:53,639
have

2389
01:49:53,639 --> 01:49:55,800
to so commissioner I would argue it's

2390
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,800
the supervisor's responsibility to make

2391
01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,960
sure that these employees punch and so

2392
01:49:59,960 --> 01:50:02,040
from a risk from A Loss Prevention

2393
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,400
aspect it's also a very good practice

2394
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,880
that each person punch in and out and

2395
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,679
so that's just what I would add I

2396
01:50:09,679 --> 01:50:11,639
apologize how many how many managers did

2397
01:50:11,639 --> 01:50:13,560
we see was it hund and something manager

2398
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:15,560
see that's my problem there that's what

2399
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,480
you calling them supervises they're

2400
01:50:17,480 --> 01:50:19,040
calling the managers

2401
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:23,400
124 but it's 22 people that are

2402
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,599
responsible for that time that's that's

2403
01:50:26,599 --> 01:50:28,159
what we're trying to drill well that's

2404
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:30,920
what we've created by by employees not

2405
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,239
punching is again we've put this on a on

2406
01:50:33,239 --> 01:50:35,880
this group it's the 22 timekeepers no

2407
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:39,760
it's we need to punch right so the 22

2408
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,400
timekeepers aren't overwhelmed trying to

2409
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,440
clean this up you're you're right you're

2410
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:45,760
you said something that makes a lot of

2411
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:49,360
sense it is those 22 timekeepers job to

2412
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,639
get this right but the people who need

2413
01:50:52,639 --> 01:50:55,480
need to push the punch or the bosses

2414
01:50:55,480 --> 01:50:58,119
because 24 of them though and and that's

2415
01:50:58,119 --> 01:51:00,320
what they're and they're basically

2416
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:02,760
saiding but I'm listen to my I may not

2417
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,119
listen to the person who reconciles the

2418
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:07,960
clock but I will listen to my

2419
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,719
boss all your boss is doing judge if

2420
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:12,679
you've ever been around and I I invite

2421
01:51:12,679 --> 01:51:14,679
all of you spend some time with all your

2422
01:51:14,679 --> 01:51:17,960
boss is doing said report to nor Tower

2423
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,400
report to West Tower report to West

2424
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,079
Tower and punch in I mean we but but you

2425
01:51:23,079 --> 01:51:25,520
don't you don't get that it's not that

2426
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,599
simple so it so it is it is a change in

2427
01:51:28,599 --> 01:51:30,199
mindset right there there are

2428
01:51:30,199 --> 01:51:32,560
administrative tasks that each managers

2429
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,079
are responsible for and and

2430
01:51:35,079 --> 01:51:38,119
to and I would argue that's our

2431
01:51:38,119 --> 01:51:40,239
challenge right how how do we how do we

2432
01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:43,679
instill that administrator management

2433
01:51:43,679 --> 01:51:46,520
philosophy so I I agree that it's it's

2434
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,679
difficult at the moment so how do we not

2435
01:51:48,679 --> 01:51:50,760
make that difficult and that's that's

2436
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,400
part of as an employee

2437
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,119
you know you are responsible for doing

2438
01:51:55,119 --> 01:51:57,239
this and so you know we're we're looking

2439
01:51:57,239 --> 01:51:59,199
forward to a future not too distant

2440
01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:01,639
future where we can report on that right

2441
01:52:01,639 --> 01:52:02,880
we can go

2442
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,440
from through the entire thing employee A

2443
01:52:05,440 --> 01:52:07,159
to Z and draw a line and go hey these

2444
01:52:07,159 --> 01:52:10,280
employees are punching consistently

2445
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,320
great job these employees have never

2446
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:13,840
punched we need to do something about

2447
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:15,199
these employees you know we can do the

2448
01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:17,040
same thing with managers and group it

2449
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,560
this manager has no employees that punch

2450
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:22,000
this manager has some so all it it

2451
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,239
doesn't mean it doesn't say that anyone

2452
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:26,040
is doing anything wrong there may be

2453
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,000
something underlying to your point

2454
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,480
commissioner that drives that assignment

2455
01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:33,360
I get it that's time what will T staff

2456
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:38,280
do Mr Lewis to help us manage this

2457
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,840
position now it it will help with the uh

2458
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,079
the scheduling and what it'll also do is

2459
01:52:43,079 --> 01:52:45,760
give reports so basically as I think Bob

2460
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:49,520
and uh Dr Watkins have alluded to it'll

2461
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,000
it'll help ease the administrative

2462
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:52,599
burden on the sheriff's office so you

2463
01:52:52,599 --> 01:52:54,960
will know who is scheduled but you'll

2464
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,000
also know immedately after that who is

2465
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,560
working who punch who didn't punch the

2466
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:01,320
actual so then that way you can sort of

2467
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,639
manage that because the problem is it's

2468
01:53:03,639 --> 01:53:05,560
it's a heavy administrative burden which

2469
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,560
is why it's a delay because you're

2470
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,880
entering those punches postwork and it

2471
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:12,639
should happen daily so you're trying to

2472
01:53:12,639 --> 01:53:14,000
catch up at the end of the week to make

2473
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,239
payroll and can it happen

2474
01:53:16,239 --> 01:53:18,920
daily yes yeah yeah especially if

2475
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:21,639
they're more punches than edits so again

2476
01:53:21,639 --> 01:53:23,800
I was talking about the clock so we can

2477
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,920
work to do things to make the job easier

2478
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:27,880
the the rules that this will be based on

2479
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:29,520
the sheriff's operation because they

2480
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,560
have to drive their own operation but

2481
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,040
this should at least alleviate the

2482
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:34,560
administrative burden that it takes to

2483
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,760
get to time in exactly the where are we

2484
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:39,960
on Mr chairman where are we on TeleStaff

2485
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,159
uh TeleStaff and the updated version of

2486
01:53:42,159 --> 01:53:44,119
Kronos both go live in April I think

2487
01:53:44,119 --> 01:53:47,760
April 19th is the exact day okay so we

2488
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,440
we're we're looking 60 out yeah I'm

2489
01:53:50,440 --> 01:53:52,560
moving on to the next topic and what my

2490
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,880
colleagues want otherwise rockins thank

2491
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,560
you well I just want to ask that um we

2492
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,159
continue to look into this I think that

2493
01:54:01,159 --> 01:54:04,000
uh as every process we need to be sure

2494
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,239
that everybody follows the same rules

2495
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:07,920
otherwise we're not going to be see the

2496
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:09,639
savings and the organization that we

2497
01:54:09,639 --> 01:54:12,239
want thank you Mr chair okay always

2498
01:54:12,239 --> 01:54:14,000
being mindful of other elected officials

2499
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,079
time I'm going to take Odyssey next if

2500
01:54:16,079 --> 01:54:17,239
that's all right and then come back to

2501
01:54:17,239 --> 01:54:20,239
it with your's permission all right very

2502
01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:23,560
good Mr chairman I'm I move um since

2503
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,320
there is a quorum that a motion to

2504
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:29,040
suspend no thank you Motion in second

2505
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,880
all in favor I motion passes thank you

2506
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:33,880
all right um let's take Odyssey if we

2507
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:38,040
can please uh Petri you want to um let's

2508
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:39,679
proceed

2509
01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:42,520
on so um do you have a presentation

2510
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,840
slide deck um we can certainly go

2511
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:46,480
through the agenda and introduce

2512
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:49,520
yourself I'm sorry Richard Ballard IT

2513
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:54,709
services okay

2514
01:54:54,719 --> 01:54:57,760
okay um as part of the agenda obviously

2515
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,920
we have um laid out how do we get here

2516
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,159
current challenges path forward high

2517
01:55:04,159 --> 01:55:08,159
level action plan and then duties roles

2518
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:10,599
responsibilities resource plan and then

2519
01:55:10,599 --> 01:55:12,760
open it up for open discussion and

2520
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,079
feedback um pending the committee's

2521
01:55:15,079 --> 01:55:16,440
interest I would like to just get

2522
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:18,960
straight into the schedule and talk

2523
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,159
about the resource plan also talk about

2524
01:55:22,159 --> 01:55:24,280
um how are we going to ensure

2525
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,639
visibility as to the tracking progress

2526
01:55:27,639 --> 01:55:30,920
as well as accountability in relation to

2527
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:34,000
the tasks that we need to be

2528
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,920
completed so if it's okay with the

2529
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,440
committee like to go ahead and just jump

2530
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:40,520
straight

2531
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:44,639
to slide number seven which is the high

2532
01:55:44,639 --> 01:55:46,679
level action plan they kind of walk us

2533
01:55:46,679 --> 01:55:48,159
through

2534
01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:52,360
that I don't have that

2535
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,159
it should it should be you said you

2536
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:56,800
don't have it it should be in your high

2537
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,360
level action

2538
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:03,760
plan have seven

2539
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:08,599
s okay and I can share my copy with you

2540
01:56:08,599 --> 01:56:10,760
commissioner oh there's the second page

2541
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:12,840
Mr B two of

2542
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,360
seven it has some notes on it so please

2543
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,079
forgive the

2544
01:56:17,079 --> 01:56:20,199
notes um so high level action plan

2545
01:56:20,199 --> 01:56:22,440
here's the intent we wanted to lay out

2546
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:26,440
an end to end plan of all of the steps

2547
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:29,320
that need to be taken uh leading to OCA

2548
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:32,480
reporting from beginning to the end um

2549
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,360
starts with the uh OCA issues

2550
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:35,920
identification that's by The District

2551
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,199
Clerk's Office so we have a schedule

2552
01:56:38,199 --> 01:56:39,840
there and we'll talk a little bit more

2553
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:41,880
about that here in just a second but you

2554
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:43,159
know we have to schedule on the right

2555
01:56:43,159 --> 01:56:45,880
hand side that will then lead to the

2556
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:47,800
data assessment Solutions review in

2557
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,679
other words what things need to be fixed

2558
01:56:50,679 --> 01:56:52,960
what does that look like the approach

2559
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,159
which will then lead to the development

2560
01:56:55,159 --> 01:56:57,440
as to

2561
01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,679
solutioning and then approval and sign

2562
01:56:59,679 --> 01:57:02,119
off uh obviously validation comes before

2563
01:57:02,119 --> 01:57:04,040
that which then means that hey is this

2564
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,360
working as expected and if it is we'll

2565
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:07,800
get sign

2566
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:12,800
off and then next slide de yes sir

2567
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,760
slides all Mr chairman all boots on the

2568
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,400
ground in other words is everything on

2569
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:21,079
the ground we we've seen these PL yes

2570
01:57:21,079 --> 01:57:23,880
sir we we we have a resource plan uh one

2571
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,840
of the items and Tyler's here should be

2572
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,360
able to to talk to this is from a

2573
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,719
resourcing perspective we've requested

2574
01:57:30,719 --> 01:57:32,239
access to additional resource in The

2575
01:57:32,239 --> 01:57:34,360
District Clerk's Office we've identified

2576
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:36,480
all the resources from IT services

2577
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:39,719
perspective we know what's needed from a

2578
01:57:39,719 --> 01:57:42,760
Tyler perspective but what Tyler has

2579
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,480
communicated back to us is that the

2580
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:49,119
schedule that we have um as to hey we're

2581
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:51,079
looking to meet from 1 to 5 Monday to

2582
01:57:51,079 --> 01:57:54,520
Friday a room physically to have all

2583
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,239
parties there they have some concerns as

2584
01:57:57,239 --> 01:57:59,880
to making the resources available via

2585
01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:02,320
the schedule that we have provided time

2586
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,199
Mr chairman where's Tyler yeah where is

2587
01:58:05,199 --> 01:58:07,599
Tyler yeah we we I got some questions

2588
01:58:07,599 --> 01:58:11,239
about that yeah and you are my name is

2589
01:58:11,239 --> 01:58:12,920
Jared Anderson I'm a client executive

2590
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,119
with Tyler okay so who is the de I'm

2591
01:58:15,119 --> 01:58:17,320
sorry no chairman who's the dedicated

2592
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,679
resource of Tyler for this project who's

2593
01:58:19,679 --> 01:58:22,159
the dedicated so dedicated we have a

2594
01:58:22,159 --> 01:58:24,000
client success account manager and he's

2595
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,000
identified in the plan who is that

2596
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,199
person by name uh Zach Andre Okay and he

2597
01:58:29,199 --> 01:58:31,320
is dedicated to this process is that

2598
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,000
right that's right okay so why can't he

2599
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,040
make the meeting he can all right

2600
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,719
there's there's a list of there's a

2601
01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:38,360
whole team of people that you've

2602
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,920
identified in this plan some of them are

2603
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,320
solution architects in the sense of

2604
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:45,119
they're the they're a DBA for example

2605
01:58:45,119 --> 01:58:47,960
and they they work very they're they're

2606
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:49,480
resource constrained let's just put it

2607
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,639
that way they work on other accounts uh

2608
01:58:51,639 --> 01:58:54,000
to have them dedicated in a room

2609
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:58,440
specifically for 20 hours a week is not

2610
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:00,199
not feasible for Tyler but what we have

2611
01:59:00,199 --> 01:59:01,840
said and what we continue to do is

2612
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:03,840
provide those resources we've been doing

2613
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,679
it we will we'll bring them to bear as

2614
01:59:05,679 --> 01:59:09,119
needed but for this project specifically

2615
01:59:09,119 --> 01:59:10,920
what we're looking at here is we need

2616
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:12,760
requirements so that we can then assign

2617
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,920
it to the DBA to then build so they are

2618
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,679
not necessarily needed in that room for

2619
01:59:18,679 --> 01:59:20,880
the 20 hours to solve that problem

2620
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:22,639
wasn't that part of the contract though

2621
01:59:22,639 --> 01:59:26,639
to be there to provide that support we

2622
01:59:26,639 --> 01:59:28,360
we what I'm what I'm suggesting is we

2623
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:31,119
are Sur providing the support we have

2624
01:59:31,119 --> 01:59:32,960
daily people that are assigned to this

2625
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,400
project but it's basically like if you

2626
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:36,599
need a carpenter you go pull the

2627
01:59:36,599 --> 01:59:38,320
carpenter in and say okay let's build

2628
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:40,960
this uh the folks that are running the

2629
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,040
day-to-day are the ones that are pulling

2630
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,079
those people in to bring the resources

2631
01:59:45,079 --> 01:59:46,480
to Bear we've been doing that and we

2632
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:48,679
continue to do that but you're also

2633
01:59:48,679 --> 01:59:51,280
saying that you can't meet the schedule

2634
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:53,280
I we have not said we're not going to

2635
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:54,880
meet the schedule what we've said is we

2636
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,440
cannot dedicate a person that is at a

2637
01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:00,440
DBA level for 20 hours a week for the

2638
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:03,480
next four months so what you are saying

2639
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,679
is that you need everybody in one room

2640
02:00:05,679 --> 02:00:07,800
so you can breathe them all tell them

2641
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:09,880
all together what they need to do that

2642
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:13,119
you can do that's yes that is correct

2643
02:00:13,119 --> 02:00:15,840
okay we will have folks available to and

2644
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,679
Mr Baler the challenge of doing putting

2645
02:00:18,679 --> 02:00:21,400
all the people in one room is Big well

2646
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,239
it service of facilitating that already

2647
02:00:24,239 --> 02:00:26,960
um so but it's not necessarily the issue

2648
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:29,480
with the DBA the concern is with the

2649
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:32,079
Tyler implementation specialist uh which

2650
02:00:32,079 --> 02:00:34,800
is Mr SoDo that has that's different

2651
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,840
yeah goad that has unique knowledge uh

2652
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:40,760
that the DBA would not have um that

2653
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,119
we're going to be heavily relying upon

2654
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:45,840
and I think that's what we're saying Mr

2655
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:49,840
Soto yes sir what about Mr SoDo that's a

2656
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:52,360
difficult request to have him DED ated

2657
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,960
in a room for for 20 hours a week for

2658
02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,520
the next four months he will be

2659
02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:02,510
avilable yeah that's what we need

2660
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:04,599
though what I can tell you is we will

2661
02:01:04,599 --> 02:01:07,560
make the resources available as needed

2662
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:10,199
but let but that's the resource that's

2663
02:01:10,199 --> 02:01:13,800
needed yeah and and and so there there's

2664
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:15,239
business processes things that need to

2665
02:01:15,239 --> 02:01:17,520
be identified it's for example we need

2666
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:18,960
to make sure that we have the road map

2667
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,920
correct in the sense of we need to know

2668
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:23,119
exactly the data owners have to provide

2669
02:01:23,119 --> 02:01:25,520
that specific data set and we don't own

2670
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:27,880
that data that comes from a third party

2671
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:29,760
Solution that's

2672
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:33,119
AIS so when that

2673
02:01:33,119 --> 02:01:36,079
identif Balor sorry we're going to have

2674
02:01:36,079 --> 02:01:38,800
AIS res from an IT services perspective

2675
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,320
we'll have us with Nelson which the is

2676
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:43,000
resource we'll have her available I mean

2677
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:44,880
we're going to have from an IT services

2678
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:46,719
perspective all of the applications that

2679
02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:48,960
are native non Odyssey even though we're

2680
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:50,679
going to have an odyssey resource there

2681
02:01:50,679 --> 02:01:52,719
they're all going to be there so there

2682
02:01:52,719 --> 02:01:54,920
isn't a we need to reach out there but

2683
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:56,639
we're going to have everything that

2684
02:01:56,639 --> 02:01:58,280
Tyler needs in that room we're going to

2685
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:01,280
have yes okay now but what we need is

2686
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:02,920
SoDo in the

2687
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:05,560
room let's say SoDo is sick that day we

2688
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:06,960
will make sure that another

2689
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:08,960
implementation consultant is available

2690
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:10,920
for that meeting yeah well we don't need

2691
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:13,639
Soto to be sick too much she does yeah

2692
02:02:13,639 --> 02:02:15,400
there might need to be a note from the

2693
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:18,960
doctor come on so yeah I I hear you you

2694
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:20,760
understand we are we we resource

2695
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,040
constraint when it comes to certain

2696
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,679
people and is signing them out for two

2697
02:02:24,679 --> 02:02:26,880
four months in this scenario is very

2698
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:28,719
difficult to do yeah but it's it the

2699
02:02:28,719 --> 02:02:31,480
contract has been set up that Dallas

2700
02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:34,079
County has particular needs within a

2701
02:02:34,079 --> 02:02:36,199
particular time frame yep and the

2702
02:02:36,199 --> 02:02:38,400
contract was signed that Tyler in fact

2703
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:40,480
would Supply that and now what you're

2704
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:42,280
saying is that you cannot meet the

2705
02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:44,800
schedule and you know we understand a

2706
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,520
person getting sick and those kinds of

2707
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:50,040
things but but as a commitment in a

2708
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:54,079
contract as I understand it Tyler signed

2709
02:02:54,079 --> 02:02:58,159
the contract to do exactly that to

2710
02:02:58,159 --> 02:03:02,320
provide uh the support and the expert

2711
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:05,719
persons to satisfy the needs of Dallas

2712
02:03:05,719 --> 02:03:07,639
County in this endeavor this is above

2713
02:03:07,639 --> 02:03:09,360
and beyond traditional maintenance we

2714
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,679
are working with we are coming to be

2715
02:03:11,679 --> 02:03:14,560
resources to help pull scripts and write

2716
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,239
right into a third party solution that

2717
02:03:16,239 --> 02:03:18,639
is not ours and that's at the request of

2718
02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:22,000
Dallas County and we were doing that as

2719
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,239
part of the contract in the sense of

2720
02:03:24,239 --> 02:03:26,360
it's Goodwill in my opinion it's not

2721
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,159
specifically scoped out work if we were

2722
02:03:28,159 --> 02:03:30,440
going to do this for another uh County

2723
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,159
we would likely draw up a Professional

2724
02:03:33,159 --> 02:03:34,840
Services agreement specifically for this

2725
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:36,719
work we haven't done that we've tackled

2726
02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:39,199
it as an implementation project and we

2727
02:03:39,199 --> 02:03:41,000
continue to put the resources to support

2728
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:42,559
it so that's what we're going to

2729
02:03:42,559 --> 02:03:44,159
continue to do we're not going to nickel

2730
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:46,320
and dime you and come back and say you

2731
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:49,400
know it's another 25,000 or 50,000 for

2732
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:50,960
any additional work we're just saying we

2733
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:52,800
will bring the the resources to bear as

2734
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,280
needed

2735
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:58,800
so yeah Mr one second okay I mean and if

2736
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,679
I may OCA reporting as well as some of

2737
02:04:01,679 --> 02:04:03,800
the other items that we recently were

2738
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:05,880
able to to bring forth to completion you

2739
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:06,880
know that should have been part of the

2740
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,599
Criminal Court's deployment so it's

2741
02:04:09,599 --> 02:04:12,239
something that was accounted for it just

2742
02:04:12,239 --> 02:04:15,960
wasn't delivered upon Gove um so when I

2743
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:18,440
hear we would treat this different you

2744
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:19,960
know it was a

2745
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:22,719
deliverable yeah it was a deliverable

2746
02:04:22,719 --> 02:04:24,400
yes sir and we have from an OCA

2747
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:25,760
perspective we have a dedicated State

2748
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:27,440
reporting person that's now part of the

2749
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:30,199
team but we need SoDo to get the job

2750
02:04:30,199 --> 02:04:31,800
done Miss Petri do you want to add

2751
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:35,119
anything to that yeah please is the

2752
02:04:35,119 --> 02:04:37,760
chcken how important is this task that

2753
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:40,800
we're doing right now the OCA

2754
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:43,239
reporting it's a massive we haven't

2755
02:04:43,239 --> 02:04:45,440
reported since we went live in right and

2756
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:48,079
it needs to be done absolutely and Tyler

2757
02:04:48,079 --> 02:04:49,960
needs to bring the resources in order to

2758
02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:51,679
accomplish the task to help you true

2759
02:04:51,679 --> 02:04:55,119
absolutely we um we we do have Zach

2760
02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:57,639
who's who's doing a a decent job but we

2761
02:04:57,639 --> 02:05:00,239
always have to wait for SoDo to uh

2762
02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:02,400
provide us with the information so we

2763
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:05,119
have been waiting for a script for the

2764
02:05:05,119 --> 02:05:07,559
past three weeks

2765
02:05:07,559 --> 02:05:11,400
um because it's so massive we don't know

2766
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:14,440
it's an issue until we run across it and

2767
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:16,400
we we're processing every day we're

2768
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:19,599
correcting every day manually we've done

2769
02:05:19,599 --> 02:05:22,760
um house bill um

2770
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:25,559
1152 that was manual that was that was

2771
02:05:25,559 --> 02:05:29,040
for an entire year we report every month

2772
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:32,599
um on the judges um activity their Court

2773
02:05:32,599 --> 02:05:35,119
activity that's a manual process and

2774
02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:38,040
it's manual because OCA is not working

2775
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:40,400
so that is very time consuming for my

2776
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,719
staff um we met November 8th as a matter

2777
02:05:43,719 --> 02:05:46,000
of fact we've been meeting with Tyler

2778
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,079
and it um three times a week since

2779
02:05:49,079 --> 02:05:51,840
November 8th and we are no further today

2780
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:56,079
than we were on November 8th um other

2781
02:05:56,079 --> 02:05:58,599
than my staff corrected and Mr chairman

2782
02:05:58,599 --> 02:06:01,559
let me ask okay and what I'm asking

2783
02:06:01,559 --> 02:06:06,599
Tyler is can you provide a resource

2784
02:06:06,599 --> 02:06:11,239
plan so for for soda showing his

2785
02:06:11,239 --> 02:06:13,719
availability to Dallas County for this

2786
02:06:13,719 --> 02:06:17,119
project and related to the critical pad

2787
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:19,440
timeline for this project can you

2788
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:23,119
provide that to Dallas County

2789
02:06:23,119 --> 02:06:25,079
not specifically Right In This Moment no

2790
02:06:25,079 --> 02:06:26,280
if you're asking me to go back and

2791
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:28,119
identify you not do it at this moment

2792
02:06:28,119 --> 02:06:31,159
I'm asking you to to to delete at the

2793
02:06:31,159 --> 02:06:33,800
end of the day you you've heard us all I

2794
02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,239
mean yeah soo soo the guy you just heard

2795
02:06:36,239 --> 02:06:39,920
Miss Petri yes yes sir so can you take

2796
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:45,199
and provide a plan on this critical path

2797
02:06:45,199 --> 02:06:49,000
timeline that he can be in Dallas County

2798
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:52,559
they've said 20 hours okay you're saying

2799
02:06:52,559 --> 02:06:54,639
can't do 20 hours and I I take it that

2800
02:06:54,639 --> 02:06:56,440
was 20 hours a week for the next four

2801
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,000
months yes we actually what we've done

2802
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,199
is for each of the steps we've outlin

2803
02:07:00,199 --> 02:07:02,320
the resources the dates and times that

2804
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:04,119
we're looking to meet in person yes sir

2805
02:07:04,119 --> 02:07:08,639
okay so I'm back to okay so can you

2806
02:07:08,639 --> 02:07:10,679
provide J here's another one of those

2807
02:07:10,679 --> 02:07:16,320
words crti a plan for SoDo word yes so

2808
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:18,719
and I hav't said anything to you and and

2809
02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:21,119
I'm just listening but really need you

2810
02:07:21,119 --> 02:07:24,559
to to do that to get as much of his time

2811
02:07:24,559 --> 02:07:26,800
as you can hear what you're saying you

2812
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:29,400
can't have somebody just sit there and

2813
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:32,559
and burn money while no one is utilizing

2814
02:07:32,559 --> 02:07:36,159
so it's up to all of us uh to make sure

2815
02:07:36,159 --> 02:07:39,320
our people are there at the times when

2816
02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:42,360
we can all work out uh to be there but

2817
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:43,920
can we get that done because I think

2818
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:45,880
that's the piece yes that's the

2819
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,320
remaining thing well and what I would

2820
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:50,159
say is Miss Petri is correct it is a lot

2821
02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:52,800
of manual effort on her staff to do to

2822
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,079
get to the to the bottom line of what it

2823
02:07:55,079 --> 02:07:57,960
is that we need so we can deliver to you

2824
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:00,040
but the opport yeah but the operative

2825
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:01,400
thing was she just got through telling

2826
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:04,520
us she be waiting three weeks for SoDo

2827
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:06,800
so here's what I'd like to suggest if I

2828
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:08,920
may it sounds like we we'll have an

2829
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:10,599
opportunity to collaborate with Mr

2830
02:08:10,599 --> 02:08:13,480
Anderson to get a detailed schedule as

2831
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:16,960
to dates times meeting place things of

2832
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:18,679
that nature so we'll collaborate with

2833
02:08:18,679 --> 02:08:20,800
Tyler on that to package that and the

2834
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:23,880
other item wanted to bring up um as to

2835
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:25,679
we're looking to also assign a PM

2836
02:08:25,679 --> 02:08:27,800
resource to this so once we actually

2837
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:30,079
have the schedule and we'll meeting in

2838
02:08:30,079 --> 02:08:32,480
person that resource will also be

2839
02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:35,719
responsible for a daily accounting as to

2840
02:08:35,719 --> 02:08:37,760
here's what we're looking to do today at

2841
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,440
the end of the day if it got done great

2842
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:41,800
if it didn't why from an accountability

2843
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:43,960
perspective whether it's Tyler IT

2844
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:45,760
services or the District Clerk's off

2845
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:47,559
that's on you yes and then we'll be

2846
02:08:47,559 --> 02:08:50,840
reporting that back um on a weekly basis

2847
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:53,440
as we look to track progress towards you

2848
02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:55,400
know the finalized schedule yeah that's

2849
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,079
on you you get the PM yes but we we we

2850
02:08:58,079 --> 02:09:01,000
back on him on soda yes sure sodos yeah

2851
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:02,920
and and if it isn't SoDo then it better

2852
02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:04,440
not be some guy who says well I have to

2853
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:06,360
get back with you after I talk to SoDo

2854
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:09,400
it better not be that person yeah yeah

2855
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:12,960
okay yeah and I agree I agree with that

2856
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:16,559
I mean amen I mean we have gone through

2857
02:09:16,559 --> 02:09:20,360
these for how many months now you know a

2858
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:23,440
year I mean it's amazing that we're

2859
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:26,280
still working on working on a schedule

2860
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:29,360
so everybody can be together and

2861
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:31,360
follow yeah I think it's gonna be easier

2862
02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:33,960
if it's now do we have don't I'm sorry

2863
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:38,400
Mr chairman do we have uh Mr Ballard and

2864
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:40,840
do we have the internal resources from

2865
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:44,599
the Department uh both from Miss Petri

2866
02:09:44,599 --> 02:09:48,320
uh and and it we we do have the resource

2867
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,480
from it and we're confirming who the

2868
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:52,520
project manager from might he is so

2869
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:54,639
that's we will have that and then from a

2870
02:09:54,639 --> 02:09:57,239
District Clerk's perspective Miss Petri

2871
02:09:57,239 --> 02:10:00,199
has you have do you have the internal

2872
02:10:00,199 --> 02:10:03,679
resources to dedicate to the same thing

2873
02:10:03,679 --> 02:10:05,159
we're we're charging it's one thing for

2874
02:10:05,159 --> 02:10:07,880
us to charge Tyler up it's another thing

2875
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,000
for us to say hey we're here so do you

2876
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:15,920
have them as well yes okay okay so one

2877
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:18,559
more time let let the record

2878
02:10:18,559 --> 02:10:23,679
reflect that we are on plan y Z1 so our

2879
02:10:23,679 --> 02:10:25,559
deliverable back to the committee would

2880
02:10:25,559 --> 02:10:29,040
be the schedule yes detailed schedule

2881
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:31,920
detailed resource plan um back to the

2882
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,320
committee with SOS availability and

2883
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:37,000
after that theoretically we're done

2884
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:38,440
we're I mean we're not I know we're

2885
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:41,639
using it but we're it's implemented it's

2886
02:10:41,639 --> 02:10:43,840
functioning once we have the schedule on

2887
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:45,840
the resource plan it should be able to

2888
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:48,480
lay out here is um when we're looking to

2889
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:50,719
meet these deliverables and timelines

2890
02:10:50,719 --> 02:10:53,559
and and everything else with that to

2891
02:10:53,559 --> 02:10:56,800
thank you very much all right I'm uh I'm

2892
02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:58,760
going to so we'll hear one more thing Mr

2893
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:02,000
chair we'll hear from you in regards to

2894
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:05,960
stto yes when you made it very clear and

2895
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:10,880
I will get back to uh the it Sho by by

2896
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:13,000
he said this week this week oh this week

2897
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:14,760
okay I didn't hear that okay for sure

2898
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:17,280
okay thank you sir thank you thank you

2899
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:21,639
all right I'm moving on to uh it

2900
02:11:21,639 --> 02:11:24,040
applications and duplications Mr TR good

2901
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:25,760
to see

2902
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:29,400
you sorry say again did you want to talk

2903
02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:32,079
about the organization proposal or the

2904
02:11:32,079 --> 02:11:33,880
application rationalization I would like

2905
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:37,320
to talk about both okay great all right

2906
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:41,000
my name is Justine TR CIO and um if we

2907
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:44,440
could go to the how

2908
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:46,639
do all right I'll I'll try to be brief

2909
02:11:46,639 --> 02:11:48,559
so we've got two things to uh go over

2910
02:11:48,559 --> 02:11:50,880
today uh one is the proposed it

2911
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:53,480
organization ation I'll go through that

2912
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:54,920
and then Mohammed will take us through

2913
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:56,960
the application

2914
02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:59,440
rationalization um so with that um I

2915
02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:02,000
want to recap um some Gardener

2916
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:03,840
recommendations um there are five things

2917
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,079
they're recommended make sure that we

2918
02:12:06,079 --> 02:12:07,840
have a methodology to manage it

2919
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:11,040
Investments um there's also a need to

2920
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:14,280
increase spend investment in our

2921
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:16,559
infrastructure and our infrastructure

2922
02:12:16,559 --> 02:12:19,400
Workforce um also take a look at how it

2923
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:21,320
is organized which is um what we're

2924
02:12:21,320 --> 02:12:24,520
going to talk about today uh and also uh

2925
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:26,960
build up the it leadership competency

2926
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:29,159
and Define a future State and strategic

2927
02:12:29,159 --> 02:12:32,400
plan so again that's recap from Gardner

2928
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:34,920
um I've presented a lot of his

2929
02:12:34,920 --> 02:12:37,159
information uh in separate meetings so

2930
02:12:37,159 --> 02:12:40,040
this is just another recap uh in terms

2931
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:44,119
the reorganization that I am pushing it

2932
02:12:44,119 --> 02:12:45,639
um I went through the operating model

2933
02:12:45,639 --> 02:12:47,360
the engagement model the planning model

2934
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:49,920
communication model uh the outcomes of

2935
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:52,559
those models is really to focus on uh

2936
02:12:52,559 --> 02:12:54,559
execution Excellence making sure we're

2937
02:12:54,559 --> 02:12:56,679
delivering consistently high quality

2938
02:12:56,679 --> 02:12:59,320
reliable performance solutions

2939
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:02,239
accountability and transparency and also

2940
02:13:02,239 --> 02:13:04,239
agility uh and a large part of the

2941
02:13:04,239 --> 02:13:05,920
transformation we want to focus on too

2942
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:07,800
well not a large part but really what is

2943
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:10,800
going to be demanded of it as well as

2944
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:13,400
our departments and our partners is a

2945
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:15,400
cultural and mind shift we want to

2946
02:13:15,400 --> 02:13:18,239
change um from kind of how we work today

2947
02:13:18,239 --> 02:13:21,360
silos compliant reactive to cross

2948
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:24,239
functional teams uh more empowerment

2949
02:13:24,239 --> 02:13:28,040
accountability and more agile so then I

2950
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:28,800
want

2951
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:32,000
to and uh here we're we're talking about

2952
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,360
uh having dedicated teams to develop

2953
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:37,480
expertise having a more agile framework

2954
02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:40,199
uh and what I want to focus on is uh at

2955
02:13:40,199 --> 02:13:41,559
the bottom there building new

2956
02:13:41,559 --> 02:13:43,719
capabilities we we really don't have

2957
02:13:43,719 --> 02:13:45,400
some of these capabilities today that we

2958
02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:48,000
need to build and mature I can show you

2959
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:49,880
that a little more with your work

2960
02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:52,599
chart um this is our current or chart we

2961
02:13:52,599 --> 02:13:55,480
have an applications team uh we have a

2962
02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:58,119
pmo that manages our projects we have a

2963
02:13:58,119 --> 02:14:00,599
a budget team we have

2964
02:14:00,599 --> 02:14:02,760
infrastructure uh and we have um

2965
02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:05,400
security that we partner with and the

2966
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:07,360
organization that we're looking at and

2967
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:08,760
again we're talking about capabilities

2968
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:10,040
that don't exist today that we really

2969
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:13,719
need to to focus on uh everything in red

2970
02:14:13,719 --> 02:14:15,079
uh is something that we really don't

2971
02:14:15,079 --> 02:14:19,280
have today um if you look at um Quality

2972
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:20,719
engineering something we don't have we

2973
02:14:20,719 --> 02:14:23,119
don't have engagement uh organization a

2974
02:14:23,119 --> 02:14:28,189
little bit bigger oh

2975
02:14:28,199 --> 02:14:31,320
yeah I do need glasses iing my glasses

2976
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:33,719
but could you make that fit the whole

2977
02:14:33,719 --> 02:14:37,199
screen there's a lot of tiny red words

2978
02:14:37,199 --> 02:14:44,830
there there's also part of the hand

2979
02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:46,970
out oh wow you're worse than

2980
02:14:46,970 --> 02:14:49,760
[Laughter]

2981
02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:52,800
me that the key message here is that we

2982
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:55,040
have capabilities that we we need to

2983
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:57,599
build uh example is data and data

2984
02:14:57,599 --> 02:14:59,119
analytics and data

2985
02:14:59,119 --> 02:15:02,159
strategy um so going on to the the last

2986
02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:03,760
slide which is around the organization

2987
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:05,480
and what we're proposing and we worked

2988
02:15:05,480 --> 02:15:08,239
with Budget on some of these numbers um

2989
02:15:08,239 --> 02:15:10,800
so if you look at the current um staff

2990
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:12,320
that we have and the way that it's

2991
02:15:12,320 --> 02:15:14,840
allocated so we've I won't read all of

2992
02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:17,280
it but um and then in this

2993
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:19,159
reorganization that I've talked about

2994
02:15:19,159 --> 02:15:21,079
you can see how it's kind of leveled off

2995
02:15:21,079 --> 02:15:23,840
off we've kind of reallocated some staff

2996
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:27,159
from apps to other areas and then the

2997
02:15:27,159 --> 02:15:29,280
new is is the focus that we're talking

2998
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:31,520
about um in terms of building new

2999
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:33,599
capabilities and how that's allocated

3000
02:15:33,599 --> 02:15:35,480
bottom line in terms of budget impact is

3001
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:37,440
6.2

3002
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:41,079
mil say that number again yes bottom

3003
02:15:41,079 --> 02:15:45,119
line for the the 39 is 6.2 million but

3004
02:15:45,119 --> 02:15:48,800
part of that is moving people off of

3005
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:51,920
contract in house that's actually a

3006
02:15:51,920 --> 02:15:54,960
savings yes so is that savings

3007
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:58,199
calculated in the 6.2 no so what you'll

3008
02:15:58,199 --> 02:16:01,520
see on the um that's in Professional

3009
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:03,440
Services so those are positions that

3010
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:05,719
would be moved into it and there will be

3011
02:16:05,719 --> 02:16:08,239
some savings we have five on for this

3012
02:16:08,239 --> 02:16:10,199
coming up Commissioners court and then

3013
02:16:10,199 --> 02:16:11,920
we're going to identify some additional

3014
02:16:11,920 --> 02:16:14,800
ones this is truly with the vacancies

3015
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:16,040
that's there

3016
02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:19,000
now and if with the recommended

3017
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:21,360
positions it'll be between 5 to 6

3018
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:24,199
million depending on the cost of it of

3019
02:16:24,199 --> 02:16:27,320
the top tier positions so the highend is

3020
02:16:27,320 --> 02:16:28,760
6.2

3021
02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:31,679
million and and so we just don't know

3022
02:16:31,679 --> 02:16:33,479
how much we're going to save on moving

3023
02:16:33,479 --> 02:16:37,200
people from the contract to cont yeah so

3024
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,599
the first one the first five you saw

3025
02:16:39,599 --> 02:16:41,160
about a $20 and something thousand

3026
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:43,559
savings that you'll see on the agenda

3027
02:16:43,559 --> 02:16:46,280
okay uh this upcoming court so that's

3028
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:49,000
for the five and then be more than a

3029
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:50,519
million dollars a year in savings

3030
02:16:50,519 --> 02:16:52,599
problem probably about 1.3 million is

3031
02:16:52,599 --> 02:16:55,040
what we kind of estimated okay so this

3032
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:58,479
is an what's shown on the screen here is

3033
02:16:58,479 --> 02:16:59,519
an

3034
02:16:59,519 --> 02:17:02,280
updated um Staffing summary that we were

3035
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:03,479
given

3036
02:17:03,479 --> 02:17:07,040
wow because you've increased from 32 to

3037
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:10,679
39 new members a total of 184 is what we

3038
02:17:10,679 --> 02:17:13,080
were shown before and now it's

3039
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:17,760
191 yeah my what I sent you earlier um

3040
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:20,280
was a bit of a mistake it was it's

3041
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:23,280
actually 30 9 right we have some seven

3042
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:25,840
vacancies which is kind of the 32 but

3043
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:28,319
right but the budget reflects the 39

3044
02:17:28,319 --> 02:17:32,439
okay so it's actually the 6.28 6. 818

3045
02:17:32,439 --> 02:17:34,519
million that's

3046
02:17:34,519 --> 02:17:36,479
correct all

3047
02:17:36,479 --> 02:17:38,800
right that doesn't include benefits

3048
02:17:38,800 --> 02:17:40,760
though yeah yes yes ma'am it includes

3049
02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:43,200
salary andit salary and

3050
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:46,599
benefits let me um at the end of the day

3051
02:17:46,599 --> 02:17:49,439
how many vacancies do you

3052
02:17:49,439 --> 02:17:54,040
have um we we have seven vacancies that

3053
02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:56,120
is going to be accounted within the 39

3054
02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:59,840
so net new is 32 yes correct that's what

3055
02:17:59,840 --> 02:18:07,549
we calculated with yes sir

3056
02:18:07,559 --> 02:18:12,509
okay all right let's move

3057
02:18:12,519 --> 02:18:15,519
on um good morning mammad i' been

3058
02:18:15,519 --> 02:18:17,760
looking forward to hearing from you yes

3059
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:19,960
sir Muhammad fos um Chief systems

3060
02:18:19,960 --> 02:18:21,559
architect I

3061
02:18:21,559 --> 02:18:24,000
Services um we're working on

3062
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:26,319
rationalizing our applications and

3063
02:18:26,319 --> 02:18:29,200
finding duplicates um I do want to

3064
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:31,920
acknowledge that this has taken quite

3065
02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:35,080
long uh one of our challenges has been a

3066
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:37,479
lack of a single source of Truth for all

3067
02:18:37,479 --> 02:18:40,120
of this data so we can collect all the

3068
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:42,240
information the key information that we

3069
02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:45,080
can use to then rationalize so that's

3070
02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:47,920
kind of what took quite a bit so what we

3071
02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:49,719
are now doing is for the last few months

3072
02:18:49,719 --> 02:18:52,319
we've employed a different approach

3073
02:18:52,319 --> 02:18:54,679
identified a lot of the key information

3074
02:18:54,679 --> 02:18:57,120
already for our application portfolio

3075
02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:58,840
that includes all the applications and

3076
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:01,800
tools and at this moment by the end of

3077
02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:03,359
March we should have everything

3078
02:19:03,359 --> 02:19:05,920
identified as far as um the tools we

3079
02:19:05,920 --> 02:19:08,240
have currently in our ecosystem this is

3080
02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:09,479
just an inventory of all the

3081
02:19:09,479 --> 02:19:12,000
applications right and and the tools yes

3082
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:14,439
sir and so we've never had an inventory

3083
02:19:14,439 --> 02:19:18,280
of all of the programs before uh we do

3084
02:19:18,280 --> 02:19:19,920
have the inventory there's a lot of data

3085
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:22,280
that we're collecting for that inventory

3086
02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:24,800
that is taking more time uh in addition

3087
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:26,840
to all that information that's critical

3088
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:29,760
because the next phase uh of that we

3089
02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:32,080
rely on the data but also working with

3090
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:34,559
the team to make recommendations so we

3091
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:37,479
do have the inventory it's over 200 and

3092
02:19:37,479 --> 02:19:40,599
plus I don't have the exact number of of

3093
02:19:40,599 --> 02:19:42,080
applications and software and tools that

3094
02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:44,319
we have but what you don't have yet is

3095
02:19:44,319 --> 02:19:46,960
the number that are duplicative

3096
02:19:46,960 --> 02:19:49,640
true yes sir uh however as we're

3097
02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:51,720
collecting the information we have asked

3098
02:19:51,720 --> 02:19:53,800
the team to recommend those that they

3099
02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:56,280
think can be Consolidated as Mr Ste

3100
02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:57,920
pointed out we have a list but we don't

3101
02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:01,040
have a lot of information about the

3102
02:20:01,040 --> 02:20:03,040
applications on those on that list such

3103
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:05,280
as criticality such as can they be

3104
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:07,359
Consolidated so that's also something we

3105
02:20:07,359 --> 02:20:09,880
are seeking input from the team right

3106
02:20:09,880 --> 02:20:12,880
now so we are also C calculating that so

3107
02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:15,600
inventory done next step figuring out

3108
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:17,720
which ones are duplication when's that

3109
02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:21,760
deadline so April uh May and June those

3110
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:24,479
three months we are trying to plan

3111
02:20:24,479 --> 02:20:26,439
prioritize and classify all the inputs

3112
02:20:26,439 --> 02:20:27,680
we've obtained from the team and we have

3113
02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:30,560
a few decision drivers based on um the

3114
02:20:30,560 --> 02:20:33,040
newer Cloud strategy that we have and

3115
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:34,560
the newer technology stack because we

3116
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:35,920
want to kind of narrow down on our

3117
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:37,560
technology stack right now we see a

3118
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:40,080
sprawl of different technology and that

3119
02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:42,760
makes it hard to one U maintain and also

3120
02:20:42,760 --> 02:20:45,319
for our staff to have all those skills

3121
02:20:45,319 --> 02:20:47,439
to correctly support sustain that

3122
02:20:47,439 --> 02:20:50,240
technology so those three months April

3123
02:20:50,240 --> 02:20:51,280
March

3124
02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:54,040
sorry April May and June we are going to

3125
02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:56,280
use these drivers that are um listed

3126
02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:58,880
there to to weigh in all the inputs

3127
02:20:58,880 --> 02:21:01,840
we've obtained from the team to want um

3128
02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:04,319
measure those against these drivers and

3129
02:21:04,319 --> 02:21:06,880
prioritize which would feed it yes sir

3130
02:21:06,880 --> 02:21:08,920
okay so is it do I understand you

3131
02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:10,640
correctly that in June you're going to

3132
02:21:10,640 --> 02:21:12,960
come to us with recommendations of which

3133
02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:15,800
programs no longer need to be in the

3134
02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:18,200
inventory because they duplicate with

3135
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:21,560
another and we can move them over to the

3136
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:23,359
from one system to the other true

3137
02:21:23,359 --> 02:21:25,720
correct yes by June by June we're coming

3138
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:28,600
up with a multi-year strategic road map

3139
02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:30,200
for the different applications we have

3140
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:31,840
those that can be decommissioned

3141
02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:34,319
replaced Consolidated where there's cost

3142
02:21:34,319 --> 02:21:36,600
savings where we identify perhaps new

3143
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:38,200
technology that we need to bring to our

3144
02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:40,960
ecosystem all of that we're going to

3145
02:21:40,960 --> 02:21:43,160
have by the end of June yes sir so for

3146
02:21:43,160 --> 02:21:45,359
continuous Improvement in June that's

3147
02:21:45,359 --> 02:21:47,600
when I can expect this presentation is

3148
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:50,319
that right yes sir all right I'm putting

3149
02:21:50,319 --> 02:21:52,720
it up the calendar and one more thing I

3150
02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:55,520
mean with this uh whatever we have to do

3151
02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:59,520
I mean consolidation of whatever a cost

3152
02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:02,840
you know cost analysis of all this yeah

3153
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:06,319
savings okay sounds good ready for June

3154
02:22:06,319 --> 02:22:08,800
can I also recommend Mr chair that uh Mr

3155
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:11,439
TR also use that time to speak to the

3156
02:22:11,439 --> 02:22:12,680
Departments that are going to be

3157
02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:15,160
impacted before that June meeting so

3158
02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:17,359
that no one's surprised in June yeah and

3159
02:22:17,359 --> 02:22:18,840
they should show to that June meeting if

3160
02:22:18,840 --> 02:22:21,640
they have any objections to the move

3161
02:22:21,640 --> 02:22:24,640
okay and and she still M she still

3162
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:27,000
maintains on the scale of one to 10 that

3163
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,680
she inherited a department of four right

3164
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:34,760
go ahead on what it was five oh was five

3165
02:22:34,760 --> 02:22:37,600
oh go ahead on brother Muhammad thank

3166
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:40,640
you so much finished are you finished

3167
02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:42,280
with your present yes sir yes sir just

3168
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:44,560
want to mention that we're also going to

3169
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:46,560
do the ARB at the same time we are going

3170
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:48,399
to also incorporate that so we we'll

3171
02:22:48,399 --> 02:22:52,080
have some um to speak about the ARP as

3172
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:53,840
well excellent looking forward to

3173
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:55,880
hearing from you great presentation

3174
02:22:55,880 --> 02:22:58,399
thank you all right

3175
02:22:58,399 --> 02:23:04,990
uh let us talk about um

3176
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:08,280
thep yes sir you have Mr Pena here and

3177
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:12,200
also Mr Lewis so glad to hear from them

3178
02:23:12,200 --> 02:23:25,510
please some good news

3179
02:23:25,520 --> 02:23:29,120
good morning morning morning spj George

3180
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:30,640
with the Accenture

3181
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:32,680
team good morning Mr chairman

3182
02:23:32,680 --> 02:23:35,200
Commissioners judge shenin Omar pñ

3183
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:37,880
responsible executive for Dallas County

3184
02:23:37,880 --> 02:23:40,600
great all hit it it's all

3185
02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:42,640
yours thank you for the opportunity to

3186
02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:47,240
come before you uh I think uh over the

3187
02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:49,319
past year I I remember being before this

3188
02:23:49,319 --> 02:23:52,439
body when we we had just taken over this

3189
02:23:52,439 --> 02:23:54,200
and having a very Frank discussion

3190
02:23:54,200 --> 02:23:57,000
amongst us about our the needs that were

3191
02:23:57,000 --> 02:23:59,479
before the county and uh the road map

3192
02:23:59,479 --> 02:24:01,359
that we laid out to address many of

3193
02:24:01,359 --> 02:24:04,359
those needs and I think you'll be uh

3194
02:24:04,359 --> 02:24:08,040
delighted as well as uh very supportive

3195
02:24:08,040 --> 02:24:10,479
of the efforts of the team thus far and

3196
02:24:10,479 --> 02:24:13,880
I'll ask Mr George and although Mr

3197
02:24:13,880 --> 02:24:16,520
Palani doesn't have a role in speaking

3198
02:24:16,520 --> 02:24:19,439
at this point but uh we must give credit

3199
02:24:19,439 --> 02:24:20,920
where credit is due

3200
02:24:20,920 --> 02:24:23,640
if it wasn't for their efforts here we

3201
02:24:23,640 --> 02:24:26,080
wouldn't stand before you today with uh

3202
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:27,439
the news that we have to share with you

3203
02:24:27,439 --> 02:24:28,680
as

3204
02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:32,439
well all right if we can move to the uh

3205
02:24:32,439 --> 02:24:35,439
to the timeline slide it's a couple of

3206
02:24:35,439 --> 02:24:37,399
uh okay I'm

3207
02:24:37,399 --> 02:24:40,600
sorry thank you there we go and we'll

3208
02:24:40,600 --> 02:24:43,800
just use uh this slide to uh kind of

3209
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:48,080
briefly cover um as we enter our second

3210
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:51,760
year in in supporting the Erp for uh for

3211
02:24:51,760 --> 02:24:56,640
Dallas County uh so over 2024 you know

3212
02:24:56,640 --> 02:24:58,600
we've we've accomplished quite a bit

3213
02:24:58,600 --> 02:25:01,439
we've uh um had the big rocks

3214
02:25:01,439 --> 02:25:04,200
initiatives that uh um the Court's been

3215
02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:07,040
very supportive of that we Ed to

3216
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:10,640
stabilize the system uh both from the HR

3217
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:12,240
side as well as the finance and

3218
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:15,640
procurement side uh we' made some uh

3219
02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:18,640
governance and change management uh

3220
02:25:18,640 --> 02:25:20,840
implementations including

3221
02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:23,720
the uh uh uh the Enterprise

3222
02:25:23,720 --> 02:25:26,760
transformation office that uh uh Mr

3223
02:25:26,760 --> 02:25:30,680
Lester is leading and um so we feel

3224
02:25:30,680 --> 02:25:32,680
pretty confident that the system is

3225
02:25:32,680 --> 02:25:35,520
stable as you can see by mid

3226
02:25:35,520 --> 02:25:39,399
2024 and then that has allowed uh our

3227
02:25:39,399 --> 02:25:42,479
team working in partnership with Dallas

3228
02:25:42,479 --> 02:25:46,279
County to now further the value coming

3229
02:25:46,279 --> 02:25:50,439
out of the system so the last uh half of

3230
02:25:50,439 --> 02:25:54,319
24 we implemented the um compensation

3231
02:25:54,319 --> 02:25:57,680
module as well as we're on the tail end

3232
02:25:57,680 --> 02:26:01,000
of uh implementing the recruiting uh

3233
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:03,800
systems which have already realized

3234
02:26:03,800 --> 02:26:06,920
value for for the uh HR processes within

3235
02:26:06,920 --> 02:26:11,319
Dallas County and um uh that has gone

3236
02:26:11,319 --> 02:26:16,200
well um the the Count's uh team has been

3237
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:18,880
uh trained they've been very involved in

3238
02:26:18,880 --> 02:26:20,640
all of the testing and the feel

3239
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:25,120
confident in the in the uh use of it um

3240
02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:29,920
and now we just launched the uh next

3241
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:32,120
phase of it which is the guided

3242
02:26:32,120 --> 02:26:35,160
learning module which will allow the

3243
02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:41,520
county to uh continue to um um hire new

3244
02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:45,279
people put new people into um using the

3245
02:26:45,279 --> 02:26:48,880
system well uh use the system much more

3246
02:26:48,880 --> 02:26:50,760
the way it's defined without having to

3247
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:53,399
do um handholding all the time and those

3248
02:26:53,399 --> 02:26:56,760
kind of things so uh we feel really good

3249
02:26:56,760 --> 02:27:00,160
about where we are but uh I'll pause and

3250
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:03,520
uh see if there's any

3251
02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:06,640
questions hearing none soad sorry so at

3252
02:27:06,640 --> 02:27:08,920
what so at what point in time are you

3253
02:27:08,920 --> 02:27:11,240
just going to be able to just totally

3254
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:14,120
hand it off to Dallas County

3255
02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:17,120
and yeah um we've actually been working

3256
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:20,399
with uh Mr Lester and the steering Co on

3257
02:27:20,399 --> 02:27:23,800
laying out the next uh road map for the

3258
02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:27,479
next two years and As We Lay It Out

3259
02:27:27,479 --> 02:27:30,279
we've identified opportunities where

3260
02:27:30,279 --> 02:27:34,720
there'll be um uh items that um Mr

3261
02:27:34,720 --> 02:27:37,560
Lewis's team will be leading and where

3262
02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:40,399
we can support and where they feel

3263
02:27:40,399 --> 02:27:42,800
confident they can start taking over and

3264
02:27:42,800 --> 02:27:45,160
moving some of those things as an

3265
02:27:45,160 --> 02:27:49,399
example on the guided learning we'll go

3266
02:27:49,399 --> 02:27:50,720
through that imp

3267
02:27:50,720 --> 02:27:53,120
mentation uh but what will be left

3268
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:57,160
behind is a set of of instructions as

3269
02:27:57,160 --> 02:28:01,120
well as um their own team's ability to

3270
02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:04,240
add new learning modules into it and

3271
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:07,120
things like that uh Mr Lewis excuse me

3272
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:10,319
Mr chairman uh you understand the

3273
02:28:10,319 --> 02:28:12,720
essence of where I'm going with

3274
02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:15,520
this yes commissioner and the way the if

3275
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:17,240
you guys remember the way the contract

3276
02:28:17,240 --> 02:28:19,760
was constructed with centure for the

3277
02:28:19,760 --> 02:28:20,760
what we

3278
02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:22,720
the purple line there says application

3279
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:24,960
managed Services that's the ongoing

3280
02:28:24,960 --> 02:28:26,720
support so the way the contract was

3281
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:29,040
designed we sort of ramp down those

3282
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:32,399
efforts year overy year so essentially

3283
02:28:32,399 --> 02:28:34,439
what should end up happening and we're

3284
02:28:34,439 --> 02:28:37,200
not there yet is that we'll be what we

3285
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:39,200
call level one and two support probably

3286
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:41,760
internal to Dallas County and Accenture

3287
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:43,680
will be our level three so our like our

3288
02:28:43,680 --> 02:28:46,160
most expert experts until we determine

3289
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:47,520
such time we want to change that and

3290
02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:49,439
that's really based on sort of how we

3291
02:28:49,439 --> 02:28:51,760
staffed and initially the projects from

3292
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:53,240
the slide we're going to

3293
02:28:53,240 --> 02:28:56,240
show because what we've been doing is

3294
02:28:56,240 --> 02:28:58,960
each of these projects we decide hey we

3295
02:28:58,960 --> 02:29:01,760
want to do this as a a work effort that

3296
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:03,279
we need done in this timeline then

3297
02:29:03,279 --> 02:29:05,399
exential will give us a a quote for that

3298
02:29:05,399 --> 02:29:07,920
so that's how Oracle recruiting

3299
02:29:07,920 --> 02:29:09,560
recruiting cloud and guided learning

3300
02:29:09,560 --> 02:29:12,439
those two HR systems were implemented so

3301
02:29:12,439 --> 02:29:15,000
I don't see that model changing other

3302
02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:16,640
than I'm given instruction that we want

3303
02:29:16,640 --> 02:29:19,560
to ramp all the way and have all of the

3304
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:21,760
resources inside but right now we're not

3305
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:24,640
doing that we're operating under that

3306
02:29:24,640 --> 02:29:28,359
model okay thank you Mr chair thank you

3307
02:29:28,359 --> 02:29:31,760
no further questions yeah anything else

3308
02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:34,160
yeah I wish to thank the Commissioner's

3309
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:36,399
Court for the opportunity to help Dallas

3310
02:29:36,399 --> 02:29:38,240
County get through those particularly

3311
02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:40,600
challenging times thank you thank you

3312
02:29:40,600 --> 02:29:43,080
appreciate you uh I'm going to skip over

3313
02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:45,840
the uh Fire Marshall and sies uh and go

3314
02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:49,000
to economic and Community Development uh

3315
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:51,040
I will I up to the committee as to

3316
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:52,640
whether we come back to the fire marshal

3317
02:29:52,640 --> 02:29:54,359
or push him to the next time up to the

3318
02:29:54,359 --> 02:29:56,520
committee don't care either way we can

3319
02:29:56,520 --> 02:29:59,399
push it to next time but this this okay

3320
02:29:59,399 --> 02:30:01,359
go ahead but I want to do the economic

3321
02:30:01,359 --> 02:30:04,439
and uh community development program

3322
02:30:04,439 --> 02:30:07,760
policy yeah but this is but go ahead on

3323
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:10,600
I I'll yield to Mr Maan but I I've read

3324
02:30:10,600 --> 02:30:15,080
this I I'm having a real difficult time

3325
02:30:15,080 --> 02:30:18,520
understanding um where's the policy I

3326
02:30:18,520 --> 02:30:20,279
understand all the statutes and all

3327
02:30:20,279 --> 02:30:22,600
where's the policy thank you

3328
02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:24,560
commissioner and I'll ask Mr Tomo to

3329
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:26,359
also come up who will be giving the

3330
02:30:26,359 --> 02:30:28,840
presentation uh for the last two budget

3331
02:30:28,840 --> 02:30:32,319
Cycles uh the court has been allocated

3332
02:30:32,319 --> 02:30:34,840
funding for economic and Community

3333
02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:38,200
Development projects uh within statute

3334
02:30:38,200 --> 02:30:40,399
there there's a lot of opportunities to

3335
02:30:40,399 --> 02:30:43,560
fund various initiatives um mostly

3336
02:30:43,560 --> 02:30:46,640
sourcing in ch in the chapter 380

3337
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:50,680
agreements EXC chapter 380 uh

3338
02:30:50,680 --> 02:30:53,319
uh code which kind of outlines various

3339
02:30:53,319 --> 02:30:55,840
economic Community Development projects

3340
02:30:55,840 --> 02:30:57,160
there's also a lot of other

3341
02:30:57,160 --> 02:30:59,040
opportunities for community- based

3342
02:30:59,040 --> 02:31:00,840
projects working with the different

3343
02:31:00,840 --> 02:31:03,359
members over the last year year and a

3344
02:31:03,359 --> 02:31:08,200
half um Parks projects uh Transportation

3345
02:31:08,200 --> 02:31:11,000
focused projects where there was better

3346
02:31:11,000 --> 02:31:13,640
statute available to source as we were

3347
02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:15,040
moving through these different grants

3348
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:18,720
and agreements became available so to

3349
02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:21,720
actually uh year one I thought was more

3350
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:24,279
of a pilot approach by budget to set up

3351
02:31:24,279 --> 02:31:25,600
economic and Community Development

3352
02:31:25,600 --> 02:31:28,040
projects they were very successful you

3353
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:30,840
funded them this year now we want to

3354
02:31:30,840 --> 02:31:34,000
equip each uh each Commissioners Court

3355
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:36,640
member with kind of an easy track to

3356
02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:39,920
move forward with any future projects so

3357
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:44,319
from a legal perspective they look um

3358
02:31:44,319 --> 02:31:46,319
they would it would be easier to move

3359
02:31:46,319 --> 02:31:48,279
our projects through the legal process

3360
02:31:48,279 --> 02:31:50,399
if there was an actual program

3361
02:31:50,399 --> 02:31:52,960
with all the source statutes listed

3362
02:31:52,960 --> 02:31:56,319
within that policy to operate within so

3363
02:31:56,319 --> 02:31:58,760
this is staff's approach to make things

3364
02:31:58,760 --> 02:32:00,920
easier for a court member to move

3365
02:32:00,920 --> 02:32:03,479
forward a various project that is in the

3366
02:32:03,479 --> 02:32:06,279
economic or Community Development sphere

3367
02:32:06,279 --> 02:32:09,160
well you know Mr my my my concern is

3368
02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:12,680
when I read that I mean and I've said

3369
02:32:12,680 --> 02:32:16,439
are we going to report back what I call

3370
02:32:16,439 --> 02:32:18,800
the real metrics of it or did we just go

3371
02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:20,720
spend a million here

3372
02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:23,600
million there and that's a really good

3373
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:26,560
question I think uh if we just maybe

3374
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:28,040
gave a few more months the number of

3375
02:32:28,040 --> 02:32:30,120
these projects from last year are

3376
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,840
already cycling towards results too so

3377
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:35,680
we should be reporting out the results

3378
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:38,800
of each of those grants uh did to answer

3379
02:32:38,800 --> 02:32:42,349
your question sir

3380
02:32:42,359 --> 02:32:45,680
okay okay Mr CH go good morning

3381
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:48,359
Commissioners Lis Mayo Planning and

3382
02:32:48,359 --> 02:32:50,439
Development um

3383
02:32:50,439 --> 02:32:53,080
thank you Mr bazon that's a great

3384
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:57,720
synopsis um go to the next slide U you

3385
02:32:57,720 --> 02:32:59,640
know our current economic development

3386
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:03,319
policy focuses on requests from private

3387
02:33:03,319 --> 02:33:08,240
uh entities oh thank you we

3388
02:33:08,240 --> 02:33:12,269
go did I just break

3389
02:33:12,279 --> 02:33:16,319
it oh there it is right

3390
02:33:16,319 --> 02:33:18,800
um you know so those policies provide

3391
02:33:18,800 --> 02:33:20,399
the parameters

3392
02:33:20,399 --> 02:33:22,880
uh for uh the types of requests that are

3393
02:33:22,880 --> 02:33:26,000
eligible uh so we're seeking to kind of

3394
02:33:26,000 --> 02:33:27,560
expand the current policy to include a

3395
02:33:27,560 --> 02:33:29,279
program to consider Economic and

3396
02:33:29,279 --> 02:33:30,800
Development Community Development

3397
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:32,600
projects brought forward by the County

3398
02:33:32,600 --> 02:33:34,279
Commissioners Court these are very

3399
02:33:34,279 --> 02:33:38,840
different obviously um they serve to uh

3400
02:33:38,840 --> 02:33:40,319
create competitive Advantage for the

3401
02:33:40,319 --> 02:33:42,960
county uh create economic value

3402
02:33:42,960 --> 02:33:45,399
strategic growth um and what we'd like

3403
02:33:45,399 --> 02:33:51,520
to do is uh develop that program

3404
02:33:51,520 --> 02:33:53,439
um there we

3405
02:33:53,439 --> 02:33:58,560
go uh so that we can U uh create a legal

3406
02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:00,240
framework to move these projects through

3407
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:03,520
faster uh there's already a lot a good

3408
02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:07,000
number of statutes that provide us um

3409
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:09,000
the ability to develop Economic

3410
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:12,520
Development programs uh and projects uh

3411
02:34:12,520 --> 02:34:15,640
we can use chapter 381 that we do for

3412
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:18,560
our private agreements uh we can use

3413
02:34:18,560 --> 02:34:22,120
that internally uh there are ways to uh

3414
02:34:22,120 --> 02:34:25,080
expedite the bidding process uh there

3415
02:34:25,080 --> 02:34:29,439
are ways to um uh through

3416
02:34:29,439 --> 02:34:33,040
the chapter 2306 for example lets us do

3417
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:35,399
homeless programs particularly those for

3418
02:34:35,399 --> 02:34:37,880
transitional housing uh there's a large

3419
02:34:37,880 --> 02:34:40,240
number of statutes we'd like to

3420
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:42,760
consolidate those into this program uh

3421
02:34:42,760 --> 02:34:46,279
so that we can have uh good templates uh

3422
02:34:46,279 --> 02:34:48,399
to move these program programs and

3423
02:34:48,399 --> 02:34:52,160
projects through the can review uh

3424
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:56,389
expeditiously so the program

3425
02:34:56,399 --> 02:35:00,640
Focus will leverage the statuto

3426
02:35:00,640 --> 02:35:03,040
statutory Authority uh to Foster

3427
02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:05,399
Economic Opportunity that's stimulate

3428
02:35:05,399 --> 02:35:07,680
jobs create Business Development and

3429
02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:09,640
Entrepreneurship um improve

3430
02:35:09,640 --> 02:35:11,720
infrastructure uh public facilities

3431
02:35:11,720 --> 02:35:15,600
Transportation Systems Parks um to

3432
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:19,279
enhance quality of life um address our

3433
02:35:19,279 --> 02:35:22,479
critical needs uh housing stability

3434
02:35:22,479 --> 02:35:24,279
improve access to healthare Etc

3435
02:35:24,279 --> 02:35:26,600
educational opportunities uh and to

3436
02:35:26,600 --> 02:35:28,760
provote uh promote uh environmental

3437
02:35:28,760 --> 02:35:30,680
responsibilities or sustainability

3438
02:35:30,680 --> 02:35:31,960
projects that the County's been

3439
02:35:31,960 --> 02:35:34,640
initiating yeah yeah Mr chairman yeah

3440
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:38,600
and see and and this is where I I I be

3441
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:42,800
back up uh become a little uh plexed I

3442
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:45,520
mean we've got a we've got the chna

3443
02:35:45,520 --> 02:35:48,640
we've got this entire you know Parkland

3444
02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:52,120
Hospital you know $3 billion and and

3445
02:35:52,120 --> 02:35:53,880
here we are talking about critical

3446
02:35:53,880 --> 02:35:56,720
social you know hous ability improve

3447
02:35:56,720 --> 02:35:59,880
Access to Health Care expand There's an

3448
02:35:59,880 --> 02:36:02,040
opportunity that that all of that is

3449
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:03,680
just

3450
02:36:03,680 --> 02:36:07,840
so so so so Broad and I you know I I

3451
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:09,760
know years ago and it got on this court

3452
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:12,399
one of the things that people always

3453
02:36:12,399 --> 02:36:14,800
said that we shouldn't and I'm I'm going

3454
02:36:14,800 --> 02:36:18,000
to go to this this school voucher or

3455
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:20,120
Robin Hood plan or whatever it is it's

3456
02:36:20,120 --> 02:36:22,479
the same thing

3457
02:36:22,479 --> 02:36:25,960
we're well reverse yeah well iin I ain't

3458
02:36:25,960 --> 02:36:29,920
so sure but okay nonetheless uh but my

3459
02:36:29,920 --> 02:36:33,080
my problem is is that we we take from

3460
02:36:33,080 --> 02:36:34,960
the needy and get to the greedy that's

3461
02:36:34,960 --> 02:36:38,359
what it is well hey here when you start

3462
02:36:38,359 --> 02:36:40,520
talking about money that we've already

3463
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:43,080
appropriated and paid for on with our

3464
02:36:43,080 --> 02:36:45,720
taxes on the Parkland side and talking

3465
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:48,160
about improving access to healthcare

3466
02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:49,680
that's what that's what they should be

3467
02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:51,279
doing and that's what we should be

3468
02:36:51,279 --> 02:36:52,760
charging them with doing and

3469
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:54,160
commissioner I think that's just meant

3470
02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:57,240
to increase the the scope that's not

3471
02:36:57,240 --> 02:37:00,920
necessarily getting in the health care

3472
02:37:00,920 --> 02:37:03,520
business is it possible for us to get a

3473
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:06,680
copy of this presentation because first

3474
02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:08,479
of all I mean this is what was in the

3475
02:37:08,479 --> 02:37:11,920
packet um there are eight pages there

3476
02:37:11,920 --> 02:37:16,319
are five possible here that I'm sorry I

3477
02:37:16,319 --> 02:37:17,399
cannot

3478
02:37:17,399 --> 02:37:20,040
read we're happy to resend that and I

3479
02:37:20,040 --> 02:37:21,399
think if you look at the first email it

3480
02:37:21,399 --> 02:37:23,000
had the full presentation but the send

3481
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:25,120
out had that error so we'll be sure to

3482
02:37:25,120 --> 02:37:27,720
resend that to you but commissioner I

3483
02:37:27,720 --> 02:37:30,279
mean this is intentionally broad to be

3484
02:37:30,279 --> 02:37:32,040
to make it easier for you to move

3485
02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:33,680
forward various projects and I'll just

3486
02:37:33,680 --> 02:37:36,920
give an example from this past year Dr

3487
02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:39,160
Garcia had two different projects widely

3488
02:37:39,160 --> 02:37:41,279
different one was assisting bulb Springs

3489
02:37:41,279 --> 02:37:43,680
with uh playground equipment they didn't

3490
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:44,920
have funding to

3491
02:37:44,920 --> 02:37:50,160
complete Dr Garcia in BO Springs ums

3492
02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:52,800
um uh excuse me Grand Prairie ex grand

3493
02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:55,479
prie Grand Prairie and they they needed

3494
02:37:55,479 --> 02:37:57,319
uh some additional funding to to make it

3495
02:37:57,319 --> 02:38:00,240
work for one of their projects the grant

3496
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:01,840
assisted with that and they actually

3497
02:38:01,840 --> 02:38:03,479
recently just held their their ribbon

3498
02:38:03,479 --> 02:38:06,000
cutting for that for that event on the

3499
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:07,600
other side of the spectrum working with

3500
02:38:07,600 --> 02:38:11,120
Dallas College to establish an ESL

3501
02:38:11,120 --> 02:38:14,399
program uh with them I mean that came

3502
02:38:14,399 --> 02:38:18,439
out of the same program um from a staff

3503
02:38:18,439 --> 02:38:20,399
perspective we just need a framework to

3504
02:38:20,399 --> 02:38:22,640
be able to move forward with these

3505
02:38:22,640 --> 02:38:25,560
projects to help you same thing with

3506
02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:27,000
your project you had a transportation

3507
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:29,319
related project which I mean from my

3508
02:38:29,319 --> 02:38:30,560
experience is clearly Economic

3509
02:38:30,560 --> 02:38:32,040
Development however going through our

3510
02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:34,960
legal processes they did not view it as

3511
02:38:34,960 --> 02:38:37,080
such they wanted us to use another

3512
02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:39,600
exception so what we're trying to do is

3513
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:42,680
just compile the the different statutes

3514
02:38:42,680 --> 02:38:44,680
that allow us to do different community

3515
02:38:44,680 --> 02:38:47,560
and economic development projects into a

3516
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:49,760
policy so that we can move this program

3517
02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:52,479
forward and and big picture I mean this

3518
02:38:52,479 --> 02:38:55,040
is $6 million a year total this isn't a

3519
02:38:55,040 --> 02:38:57,080
big yeah but growth and development

3520
02:38:57,080 --> 02:38:58,720
follows Transportation it doesn't follow

3521
02:38:58,720 --> 02:39:01,240
playground I understand that well that's

3522
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:02,399
Community Development that's the other

3523
02:39:02,399 --> 02:39:06,800
side of the statute yeah well you know

3524
02:39:06,800 --> 02:39:09,520
and okay but and it's discretionary to

3525
02:39:09,520 --> 02:39:11,880
each district each district has

3526
02:39:11,880 --> 02:39:15,479
different needs the judge has his own um

3527
02:39:15,479 --> 02:39:17,040
funding from from a countywide

3528
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:18,520
perspective but each district has its

3529
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:22,319
own needs and you would know that best

3530
02:39:22,319 --> 02:39:27,120
yeah okay it's RW but okay got

3531
02:39:27,120 --> 02:39:30,920
it so I'll move on to our next steps

3532
02:39:30,920 --> 02:39:33,160
which are to uh ensure that we have all

3533
02:39:33,160 --> 02:39:35,279
the statutory mechanisms in one place

3534
02:39:35,279 --> 02:39:37,600
and that they're all being explored um

3535
02:39:37,600 --> 02:39:40,160
if there's a tool we want to be able to

3536
02:39:40,160 --> 02:39:42,960
make that available to you in one spot

3537
02:39:42,960 --> 02:39:44,800
um identify the best mechanisms to

3538
02:39:44,800 --> 02:39:46,960
partner with our nonprofit agencies

3539
02:39:46,960 --> 02:39:47,840
public

3540
02:39:47,840 --> 02:39:50,960
agencies education institutions uh we're

3541
02:39:50,960 --> 02:39:53,000
able to do that under state law under

3542
02:39:53,000 --> 02:39:54,479
certain statutes we want to make sure

3543
02:39:54,479 --> 02:39:58,000
that we have a template to use with them

3544
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:01,240
um and create project types that we can

3545
02:40:01,240 --> 02:40:03,359
essentially use the right statutes with

3546
02:40:03,359 --> 02:40:04,560
the right types of partners with the

3547
02:40:04,560 --> 02:40:05,960
right types of projects put these

3548
02:40:05,960 --> 02:40:09,319
together um and then the last bit is to

3549
02:40:09,319 --> 02:40:11,120
make sure we have a monitoring mechanism

3550
02:40:11,120 --> 02:40:12,200
if you say we're going to increase

3551
02:40:12,200 --> 02:40:14,080
Economic Development by doing something

3552
02:40:14,080 --> 02:40:16,000
we want to make sure that we accomplish

3553
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:18,960
that goal uh and then find out if it's

3554
02:40:18,960 --> 02:40:21,840
something we want to replicate is when

3555
02:40:21,840 --> 02:40:24,279
is the due date for to put the meat on

3556
02:40:24,279 --> 02:40:25,359
these

3557
02:40:25,359 --> 02:40:27,960
bones started that now we want to bring

3558
02:40:27,960 --> 02:40:30,040
that to you as quickly as possible I

3559
02:40:30,040 --> 02:40:31,600
would like to touch base with each one

3560
02:40:31,600 --> 02:40:33,720
of you uh to make sure that the types of

3561
02:40:33,720 --> 02:40:36,120
projects that you're considering uh we

3562
02:40:36,120 --> 02:40:38,760
have the right uh statutes in place and

3563
02:40:38,760 --> 02:40:40,120
and that we can do

3564
02:40:40,120 --> 02:40:42,479
that um I'm sorry I didn't give a

3565
02:40:42,479 --> 02:40:44,080
definite date but we'll be moving

3566
02:40:44,080 --> 02:40:45,800
forward as quickly as possible so by the

3567
02:40:45,800 --> 02:40:48,760
end of the spring by the end of say may

3568
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:52,070
absolutely

3569
02:40:52,080 --> 02:40:58,030
that's

3570
02:40:58,040 --> 02:41:01,439
um okay

3571
02:41:01,439 --> 02:41:04,560
um so the first one went that'll be

3572
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:06,120
working with civil da of course to make

3573
02:41:06,120 --> 02:41:09,720
sure we have all the statutes um and

3574
02:41:09,720 --> 02:41:13,359
then you know those best mechanisms want

3575
02:41:13,359 --> 02:41:14,640
to make sure that we have some templates

3576
02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:18,240
ready to go um but I'm open to any other

3577
02:41:18,240 --> 02:41:22,309
questions at this point

3578
02:41:22,319 --> 02:41:24,000
hearing none I'll take a motion to

3579
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:26,600
adjourn great

3580
02:41:26,600 --> 02:41:30,640
move no public comment oh public comment

3581
02:41:30,640 --> 02:41:33,200
public comment anybody for public

3582
02:41:33,200 --> 02:41:36,279
comment hearing none thank you thank you

3583
02:41:36,279 --> 02:41:40,200
I'll move all good say second second

3584
02:41:40,200 --> 02:41:45,990
thank you all in favor I

3585
02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:50,269
I right

3586
02:41:50,279 --> 02:41:59,309
I'm

3587
02:41:59,319 --> 02:42:18,150
sorry covered a

3588
02:42:18,160 --> 02:42:48,110
lot

3589
02:42:48,120 --> 02:46:51,880
e e