She sent you something. She sent you
something earlier and she You want to
call her up,
talk about it, I guess. I don't know.
» Yeah.
I know. I saw them. I saw them last
night.
My
Good morning.
» Morning.
Go Oh man.
Test.
Yeah, it works.
All right.
All right, we're starting to attach late
today. Um, thank you everyone for
coming. The court will please come to
order. There is a quorum present. All of
our members are present. All legal
notices have been posted. Go blankson
» And the court is duly called. Is there a
motion to close the court for the June
term?
» So move second
will be June. Oh, do we have because we
did have one meeting.
» Okay. So I guess for the June and July
term.
» So moved.
» Second.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
» I.
» Any opposed? Is there a motion to open
court for the August term?
» So move.
» Second.
» All right. Uh all those in favor signify
by saying I.
» I.
» Motion carries unanimously. Available.
Please open court.
» All rise. The Dallas County
Commissioner's Court is now in session
for the August 2026 term. The Honorable
Clay Lewis Jenkins presiding. Please
remain standing for the invocation.
Judge
» And and the uh this is a guest of
Commissioner Summer Commission.
» No price. I'm sorry.
» It's okay. That's all right.
» Apologize. It was I'm reading. I got
you. I got you. No problem.
» I'm like that gal. I'm an anchor man.
» That's what I'm saying.
» Yeah. Yeah, you are. Okay. Uh
let me uh welcome Pastor Brandon Walker
to to the lectern. Pastor Brandon Walker
is a proud and dedicated pastor of the
Mount Taber Baptist Church in Dallas,
Texas. And by the way, that is a
historical church that was a portal
[clears throat]
for uh young ministers coming out of the
Bishop College. His leadership is marked
by a spirit of innovation, heartfelt
compassion, and an unwavering commit.
Pastor Walker boldly accepted his
calling and delivered his first sermon
at the Greater Tabernacle Baptist Church
in Houston, Texas under the mentorship
of the late Dr. Donald G. Burge, Senior.
This pivotable moment was the beginning
of a ministry that would spann over two
decades. For eight years, Pastor Walker
served as a staff pastor at the Antioch
Fellowship Church of Dallas. As a
lifelong student of God's word, Pastor
Walker has pursued theological training
at respected institutions such as the
Houston Baptist University and Chris
College. Pastor Walker is widely
regarded as a young man with an old
soul, a description that reflects his
unique ability to seamlessly connect
with both emerging generation and
seasoned believers. His preaching is
characterized by its authenticity,
passion,
and his ministry is fueled by a profound
love for God's word and an earnest
desire to see lives changed through the
power of the gospel. Beyond the pull
pit, Pastor Walker finds his greatest
joy and most meaningful accomplishment
in his role as a devoted husband to his
wife, Amber.
um pastor and we just celebrated his u
his anniversary there at Mount Taber.
We're glad that you could join us this
morning. Please. Thank you.
» Thank you.
» Shall we pray?
Eternal God, our father, how we thank
you for the gift of another day and for
the privilege that you've given us to
serve people, particularly the people of
Dallas County. We acknowledge you as the
source of wisdom,
as a God of justice, and a God who cares
about the needs of people. And so God,
in this moment, we pray now that you
would help us to understand
the weight of being in this room
to understand that the decisions that
are made within these chambers far out
far far exceed these walls and impacts
the lives of everyday people.
So with the weight of that assignment on
our shoulders, we pray that you would
give us hearts that care, eyes that see,
spirits willing to understand,
so that the decisions that are made will
be decisions that are well-meaning, well
intended,
and that will seek to do good for all
people.
Father, we pray for discernment, wisdom,
guidance,
for anything that exceeds human
strength. We pray that you will remind
us that your strength is made perfect in
our weakness. We do not take lightly
this privilege of public service that
you've given us. So help us to handle
this responsibility in a way that will
not only be beneficial to the people we
serve, but that would be glorifying to
the God who gave us the privilege in the
first place. These things we ask in the
name of your son, our savior Jesus the
Christ. Amen.
» Amen. Thank you, pastor.
» Okay.
» All right. U at this point, uh I'm going
to make a take a motion to suspend the
agenda.
» So moved.
» Second.
» Say all those in favor sign by saying I.
» I.
And uh
at the request of uh staff, we are uh
moving the the presentation on the
budget to our first um item
» And state judge for the reasons that we
need to do this.
» Oh, sure. So, uh, should the court pass
the TR,
uh, notice today, uh, that notice has to
be posted on our website. And so to get
that done, if that were to pass, uh, so
that we're not having a meeting until 8
o'clock at night next Tuesday. Um, we're
getting to that first and then we'll get
to everything else uh, after that. So,
go ahead, Dr. Watkins.
» Good morning, judge and commissioners.
here.
We do have budgets in front of us, but
we do want the public to see what we're
looking at. So, we're waiting for it to
come up.
» Yeah, they need to.
» Okay.
Good morning. FY27
2027 proposed budget proposed at the
FY27 voter approval rate.224650.
» Hold on. Okay. Now,
» Okay. Uh the proposed budget is 94.6
million. U that represents 3.5%
increase over the total year-to- date
expenditures of 874 million. The total
proposed sources is 935.8
million with a proposed ending balance
of 31.2 million.
The proposed budget is built on this
proposed rate of.24650.
Um the proposed rate is.244650
a difference of 0.009150 009150
from the current rate of 21550.
So this slide represents the county's
projected available resources across all
» Mr. Hicks.
» Yes,
» We all know you and love you, but
introduce yourself for the record.
» Thank you, sir. Uh Timothy Hicks, County
Auditor.
This slide summarized the county's
projected available resources across all
major operating funds. The auditor
office projects fiscal 2027 available
resources of approximately 1.4
1.45 [clears throat]
billion compared to 1.383
billion in the fiscal 2026 revised
estimate. That represents anro an
increase of approximately seven 71.5
million or 5.17%.
Uh next slide.
So commissioners, this is the most
important financial indicator in today's
presentation. National credit agencies
closely evaluated unrestricted funds
because they measure an organization's
ability to manage economic
uncertainties, emergencies, and
unexpected financial pressures. The
county has established a long-term goal
of achieving unrestricted
re uh unrestricted resources equal to 11
uh 10.5%
of general funds expenditures
based on evaluations and feedback from
the credit reg a agencies u we feel like
uh they have indicated that 20% is a
good um indicator of where the Dallas
County should
And why this is important? Um because
strong reserves improve financial
flexibility,
protect essential county services during
economic downturn, reduces borrowing
costs and support favorable bond rating
and demonstrate prudent financial
financial management. So we have laid
out uh a reserve plan to reach 20% by
fiscal uh 2031.
Next slide.
» Uh before you leave that the graph back
up the graph the 164 basically saying
what I think we talked about it a little
bit.
» Yes sir.
» What does that represent?
» So [clears throat] currently
our res unrestricted reserve across all
funds is at 16.4%.
So that's what that represents where we
are currently.
» Thank you.
» Next slide.
» Good morning.
This chart displays
» Good morning. [laughter] Miss
» My name is Dana Foster Allen, chief
fiscal officer.
» Okay. Thank you, ma'am. This chart
displays where the property tax dollar
goes um by agency or entity. Um of your
total tafffty tax, excuse me, property
tax bill, 9.7% is Dallas County, 9.5% is
Parkland Hospital. 44.6%
goes to Dallas ISD. The city of Dallas
is 31.4%
with the remainder being Dallas College
at 4.8%.
And this Miss Foster Allen in that
category is Dallas County is at 0.21,
you know, tax rate.
» Correct.
» Not this is based on last year 2025
information. Um, but we do not expect
that um overall that their rates will be
dramatically different or the
proportionate will be dramatically
different.
» Thank you.
What's included in FI27 proposed budget
for workforce compensation adjustments?
There's an insurance adjustment for
$12,000 per FTE and then 3% COLA
included for all workforce included
elected officials.
Roaden Bridge proposed allocation. Um we
will be doing a revised road and bridge
policy which will be included on the
August 11th agenda. What's included in
the FY27 proposed budget is Roaden
Bridge 1 3.6 million, Roaden Bridge 2
3.8 million, road and bridge 3 9.4
million, road and bridge 4 5.7 million.
» And and the revised policy is to
represent what?
» The revised policy will represent the
methodology that was used for the
allocation for FY2027.
and [clears throat] and these uh
proposals have already captured
um
road and bridge through public works
with regards to what is going to be
required this year.
» So public works is the next slide but
this is all road and bridge related uh
» Based on the unincorporated miles by
district and based on the number of
employees by a Yes,
» Road and bridge. That's what the formula
is.
» Yes, this formula is just strictly with
road and bridge. The next slide Miss
Foster Allen would talk about.
Fiscal year 2027 budget also includes
major capital um allocations to public
works in amount of 43.5 million and
facilities projects of 37 million. This
is in line with last year's um
allocation. In addition, as the
commission is aware, we did issue debt
in amount of $350 million June the 2nd,
and we have multiple capital projects in
that. Specifically, we do have an
additional $25 million that is for
facility alone, though we have multiple
facilities initiatives in the uh 2026
bond issuance.
Okay, next steps for proposed budget.
August 11th, you're going to see we're
working on an accelerated schedule.
You're going to see hearings, tax rate,
and adoption of the budget. And then
regular schedule for Parkland Hospital
presentations are planned for August
18th and September 1st. Thank you.
Okay.
I can appreciate the confidence. It's
9:19. Since the agenda is suspended, is
there any any other question from any
other members of the court staff?
» No. Okay.
» Oh, Commissioner, I'd like to give kudos
um to our team um Dr. W uh Ronica
Watkins and her staff, specifically
Alexis Callaway. she really um put up
with this during this process. Um Tim
Hicks and his team um I know Kevin and
Ty also assisted and um for my team um
Tiffany Robertson who's new with me um
it definitely takes a team approach and
um everybody did a great job. So kudos
to everybody
» You did and I want to join that chorus.
Uh you worked through the weekend. We
did get the certified values
on that Friday evening I think late you
worked the Saturday to Sunday. Thank you
want to thank Mr. Ames and and his team
as well for working [clears throat]
through those numbers. So I too join
them as we all do and saying thank you
for because we couldn't move so that the
record will be clear. We could not move
until we get those values and then begin
to work through it.
and follow all the notices that have to
be done right
» With a specific timeline. So, thank you
all for your hard work. I appreciate
» Right.
» I appreciate you as well. Very much so.
It was very well organized this year. I
thought we did a much better way of
doing it. Thank you.
» And it shows when we have no questions.
» That's right. Right. [laughter]
» Yeah. Great. Great job, team. Um
uh now if someone wants to move for
discussion court order two the Dallas
County notice of public hearing on
Dallas County proposed tax rates for tax
year 2026 exceeding voter approval rate
VA and proposing a tax election TR.
» I move
» Well.
All right. But they're they're uh well,
okay, you're you moved. Is there a
second to that?
Dr. Daniel, is there a second?
» This is the
» It's not going to be me. So,
» It's definitely not going to be me.
» And uh you know, judge, I got you
substitute for you.
» We don't have a second.
I'm I'm definitely cannot support uh not
even as a proposal a higher tax rate
when we have worked so hard for so many
years to lower this tax rate.
Well, it's not that the vote approval
rate is necessary
» To go ahead and put
» And to proceed everything that budget
» And the auditor and CFO said, you know,
those are core responsibilities of
Dallas County and when we look at and as
I said, we haven't even gotten into the
budget here.
That's
I'm not there.
» I'm not either. And without looking at
language and other issues that will have
to go into the ballot exactly how
they're going to do and what we're going
to propose, I cannot in my good faith
support this. I
» I do support it and and I think it is
» Well, we need a second before we got
» That's a good point. Good point.
» You don't have a second that fails.
» Okay.
» So, for purposes of discussion, I'll
second uh
» Uh this. There are uh a co a couple of
um
options before us on this. Um and let me
just read these things uh into the
record if I could. Um the first is
approving uh homelessness
and uh public safety.
Um and the second is approving only
homelessness
and um the homeless and public safety
uh would uh be approving an analorum tax
rate of up to.2590000
per 100 valuation
in the in county of Dallas for the
current year. a rate that is up to
0.0285 0285
higher per 100 valuation than the voter
approval tax rate of Dallas of the
county of Dallas for the purpose of
funding programs that
measurably reduce homelessness and
resolve homeless encampments, increase
access to mental health treatment,
support programs that provide stable
housing for Dallas County Poppers,
and improve Dallas County public safety
services. Last year, the advalorum tax
rate in Dallas County was
0.215500
per 100 valuation.
Um,
the
uh
Okay, I think that I think that's
everything I've got to say. Okay. Um
and and people in budget are shaking
their head that I have said everything I
have to say. Okay. So if I may
» Discussion go ahead.
» Yes, if I may. You know, should we be
doing this is the question, you know,
should Dallas County be the one who
takes the lead here? And the answer is
yes.
» And the reason why is said in the
statutes that provide for the governance
of this county. Uh section 81.027 027 of
the Texas local government code said
that each commissioner may provide for
the support of poppers residents of
their county who are unable to support
themselves. The state has pointed at us.
They have said it's our duty, no one
else's but ours. That responsibility is
not just written in laws. It is also
written written in consciousness. It is
also written in our county code. And let
me be clear, long before John Wally
Price ever got here, we had a section in
our county code dealing with it. It's
section 5451.
It has such nonPC language in here, I
can't even begin to tell you. But still,
nonetheless, this is what the code, our
county code, the rules that govern this
county say. Commissioner's Court shall
provide for the support of poppers and
such idiots and lunatics as cannot be
admitted into the lunatic asylum and
residents of their counties who are
unable to support themselves.
» Clearly, we need to update the code.
» Yes, we do. But this says the word
shall. It says that this is our
responsibility that not only us who have
the opportunity to revise this code but
also our predecessors have always stated
that it is our duty that we shall
provide for poppers that we shall
provide for the homeless. This is our
duties and our responsibilities.
We've been charged with it with the
health and safety code. We've been
charged with it by other means. We have
seen that our jail itself is overrun
with those who are homeless. We booked
6,000 four unique unsheltered
individuals who repeatedly were booked
back into the jail 5,728
times. Parkland Hospital, also in our
charge, has 7,367
unique individuals who accounted for
52,000 visits because they have no place
to go and they repeatedly come in and
burden Parkland Hospital. We need to
only look at places like AT&T who we
lost as a result of homelessness. It is
diminished neighborhoods. The question
is not whether we pay. The question is
whether we pay for failure or invest in
success. A dedicated homeless tax is not
charity. It's stewardship. It's
financial responsibility. It's public
safety. It's economic development. And
most of all, it's hope. But let us
remember something equally important.
This is not to ask you, Dr. Daniel, or
you Commissioner Price or Garcia or
Judge. This is not to ask whether you
will raise the tax. It is a decision
that is to be made by the people of
Dallas County. Dallas County is to
decide whether they should raise the
tax. If we are truly trust our citizens,
then we must trust them with this
choice. Let them weigh the costs. Let
them measure the benefits. Let them
decide whether our county should make
dedicated investment in solving one of
the greatest challenges we face. For
generations before us, we have built
hospitals. We have built roads and parks
where children's play and institutions
that are strong for Dallas County. Now,
it's time for us to make some history
and we should answer the call and we
should trust our voters and I ask for
your vote.
» Thank you. Uh Judge, let me just say,
you know, you know what a stretch.
everybody for the most part that's
booked into the Dallas County Jail. Um,
midnight count, 94%
and I would say of the 7,300
individuals who are in there, probably
all of them meet some proper standard. I
think that uh and I and I don't I know
my colleague did not mean to insult us
as though we haven't been taking care of
them when they come into our custody.
That's exactly what we do. But you know
I I'm I'm concerned that we as I say in
terms of our core responsibilities we're
doing what we are supposed to do when
they come into our custody. It does not
say, you know, survey the land in terms
of finding all the poppers, poppers and
lunatics. Um, it does not say that. it
says basically when they basically when
they come in to our custody I mean the
state of Texas also uh has
responsibility and we've seen that what
they've done is basically handed that
off to those of us at the local level.
So let's talk about you know popppers
and lunatics
and and those and primarily people with
mental health disorder people who have
been adjudicated that the taxpayers of
Dallas County that should be in state
custody the taxpayers of Dallas County
take and we're having to service to the
tune of about $15 million annually. uh
most of them having a five to 600 day
stay in in in the in a Dallas County
jail. So, you know, I I hear all of that
and you know, you know, I'm not going to
hijack
one issue, you know, over another. I
mean, that we we know TR basically came
to this court uh by way of people
dealing with the whole child care thing.
I've been I met with them like everybody
else has. We've been very we've had
hearings. We've been very clear about
what our positions are. We have a number
of core responsibility. We have a number
of core unfunded mandates, you know,
that that the legislature continues to
heap on us. And uh I I say with all of
our partners that we continue to try to
manage this uh you know the best we can.
I'm I'm not willing to put this nor any
other TR issue before. The voter
approval rate is something that this
county needs to be able to maintain the
responsibility that have been delegated
to us by the state legislature. And as
you know in our um legislative
package, we continue to try to model and
do certain things to try to manage that
population. But we said I think we've
basically said the same thing to the uh
to our u legislative delegation. Uh
we're willing to support probably on
both ends um some responsibility. I'm
not willing to offload that to the
citizens of Dallas County. You say,
"Well, give them a chance." That's the
reason you're elected. I I don't I think
we make the decisions
that we are responsible for.
» And it's either a yes or a no basically.
» Yes. And I just want to add,
Commissioner Summerman, I mean, and we
hear you and we respect your position,
but nevertheless, we just look at
budget. We just look Dallas County tax
rate. Dallas County has been very
responsible when it comes to what we
done for our citizens. We have one of
the lowest tax rates among bigger
counties in the state of Texas. And look
what we done in 10 years. And it's been
because we have been good stewards of
our taxpayers money. That's it. With
that being said, I also take a little
bit of a hit when you say that we are
not making we are not doing our duty.
This court has always support the bridge
and the city of Dallas with homelessness
issues. This county has passed last
budget $6 million
and we still have additional $4 million
and we are committed to help you know
with the homeless forward group and the
homeless issue. I mean there's been
polls that talk about how people feel
about homelessness and we all want to
help. It's just when you do these
decisions and I agree with some of the
comments of Commissioner Price right now
when we're about to look at a big
project for Dallas County that is our
duty to build a new jail. We have to be
very conscientious more than any other
time when people are suffering right now
with affordability. When people can
afford gas, groceries, when people can
afford housing, when young people have
to wait until they're in their late 40s
to buy a new home, when we have the
opportunity to do it when we were in our
30s, I want that
American dream to continue to be there
for most of Dallas County residents. For
the first time in since I remember the
city of Dallas has lost population.
We want to tax them more if this passes
and to just close it. There's not a
definite plan of how this money is going
to be used within Dallas County. And I
honestly don't think that at this point
Dallas County can afford to add another
layer of
staff
to deal with an issue that I believe is
an issue that has to be solved
regionally and particularly by the state
of Texas because like we always say,
show me the money and I will do it. And
right now we see no money coming from
nowhere and I don't think it's fair that
the taxpayers of Dallas have to pay for
this.
» Thank you.
And I would say that there is no
coldness of heart of anybody on this
city up here at this table.
» I agree.
» Yes.
» And and the deal
» That there is an understanding
that there are needs of the residents of
Dallas County that that I don't think is
something that that can even be uh
challenged here. But that all that being
said,
what is commissioners board's
responsibility to do
» And that's where the difference comes in
» Because as Commissioner Price has said
um we too have to have a balanced
budget. We too have to look at how funds
are spent. We too have to look at um
where our priorities are.
And I would say that this is one of
those items that is incredibly painful
for all of us.
because we do see the needs, but where
is the final responsibility?
And I would question
whether it is on Dallas County
government that final responsibility
lies.
» So, and and I'm gonna finish up, judge.
You know, you know, where does it stop?
If the test is impoverished,
the nonprofits can line up on us.
Governance
isn't a race for who can get the money
first.
Core responsibility
is the governance. I yield. Thank you.
So um to give you my thoughts um on this
um
when I think about what issues are
important to Dallas County um all of
these issues are important. Right? If
someone's in health care, they would say
that's the most important thing. If
you're in education, you'd say that's
the most important thing. But when I
look at it from the standpoint of
um what's the most important thing, I
would say the most important thing in
Dallas County right now is not
shrinking, but rather growing because
the city of Dallas shrunk last year in
population and they're in a a budget
tightness because of that. We do
» And the county shrunk a little bit as
well even though we're in the fastest
growing combined metropolitan area in
the country. And so when we look at
um drivers of that, and there are
several drivers of that, but one of the
drivers of that is when families and
businesses are choosing where to
relocate,
many of them are not choosing downtown
Dallas or parts of Irving or parts of
Grand Prairie or parts of Richardson or
North Dallas
um because of a perception on their part
that uh
the quality of life and the um public
safety is better in places where they
don't see homeless encampments. So that
is one thing that I'm thinking of. The
other thing that I'm thinking of is uh
when Mike Rawlings came to me, who was a
former mayor of Dallas years ago, and
said, "Let's set up a committee between
the county and the the city um to end
homelessness."
Uh and I asked Dr. Daniel to chair that
committee and she did a uh until uh
their term limits on the committee until
the term limit uh ended. And um that
committee did a lot of great work. But
what we found in that committee is
despite the great work, our homeless
neighbors um were growing. Our
populations were growing each year. And
so with the uh invention five years ago,
invention five years ago of housing
forward uh which is somewhat of a point
guard that gets the money distributed to
the various uh agencies
uh who work on this issue.
Uh Dallas has seen a 21% drop in
homelessness while um other large urban
areas in the country have seen an
increase uh in homelessness. But we've
seen that drop mostly in downtown Dallas
through the work that this court and the
city of Dallas and private sector has
supported.
this um
uh opportunity for the voters to decide
would allow
those mental health and homeless
services to not just be in the in
downtown Dallas, but to be throughout
um the county, throughout the districts
of the various uh commissioners.
Um
so that uh you know weighed on on me as
well um in in looking at this uh
and uh seeing what what what we could
do. I do agree with Commissioner
Summerman that this is not a vote to
raise taxes. This is a vote to allow
citizens to make a decision whether or
not this cost they would prefer to pay
this cost or whether or not they would
uh prefer to stay with the status quo of
how we are dealing with homelessness. I
will point out that with the city of
Dallas's
uh woes and with that money that we put
forward this year and um that the $6
million was mostly economic development
funds for my office and I don't have
enough economic development funds in my
office to uh make those sort of
commitments each year uh because of
because of other uh you know economic
development programs. Um, so if we if if
the voters choose not to do this, not
only will we not see this expand and
help other neighborhoods and other
people, but we're going to see it shrink
some uh in uh the the urban core of
Dallas where we already are seeing uh a
pretty strong exodus of businesses
leaving. So um all of those economic
reasons, you know, played a part. Uh the
other part uh I will tell you and I
don't want to mix faith with uh I have
to be careful how I say this. Um so I'm
you know really who I am at this point
is I'm I'm probably 2 or you know 6.0 by
now right? But I can kind of tell you
you know Clay 1.0 and 2.0 is an adult.
1.0 0 uh was a a lawyer who was in a car
wreck dead for about eight minutes. Um I
had a pretty profound experience and
when I got out of that experience
uh I wanted to do something to give back
and there's all kinds of ways to give
back, right? I could have coached kids
and did a lot of those things. But one
of the things that that really struck my
heart is
everybody's faith, whether it's
Christian faith or Jewish faith or
Muslim faith, talks about um the need to
help the poor and the less fortunate. So
at that time I lived in Wakahhatchee. I
carried a pager on Tuesdays and took
care of homeless people. There weren't
that many back then uh in Wakahhatchee.
Um when I got here, I struggled with
this and got into and and so my my views
on life pretty much changed from that
experience. When I got here, I would
struggle and I would talk to my uh faith
leader friends. Uh once I was going to
lunch with one of them and uh we passed
by a homeless person. I didn't stop,
give him any money, do anything for him.
And my friend said, "You got county
plates, dude. Um, they know who you are.
Why don't you give them a few dollars?"
I said, 'Well, I'm afraid they'd spend
it for drugs.
The man said to me, "Um, what is that to
you? Don't you think in biblical times
people misused money when when they were
asking for money?" I can see his point.
I can see my point. But I did want to
work um on the this issue to try to find
a better life and a better way for the
people uh that are homeless and
struggling. And so when Dr. Daniel came
to me a few months ago, we put this
together and uh you know, that's why I'm
in support of it.
» Okay, Georgia. Thank you.
» All right. Uh um
» Shall we take a vote then?
» Well, I thought we just did. Well, no,
we haven't taken a vote. We just all
talked about it.
» No, there's not.
» There's a speaker.
» There's a
for discussion. Okay.
» You said for discussion. We've discussed
it,
» Right?
» Call the question.
» Right. Call the question.
» There's a speaker.
» Oh, I'm sorry. There's a speaker. Will
the B please read the rules of the
quorum for our public speaker. All
commissioner court attendees are hereby
advice that this meeting is conducted in
accordance with the provisions of the
Dallas County Code section 74-71.
Visitors and registered speakers are to
preserve order in the quorum at all
times. Personal, impertinent, profane or
slandish remarks and boisterous conduct
are not appropriate and will not be
allowed any time during this public
meeting. And in all applause of the be
kept brief and observant of time
constraint disruptive visitors and the
registered speakers may be removed and
are subject to the penalties provided in
the state of Texas penal code sections
38.13
42.01
and 42.05.
Registered individual speakers are
limited to a maximum of three minutes
and the maximum discussion on anyone
topic is limited to 30 minutes. Thank
you.
» All right. And uh
let me try to find the list of who our
public speaker is. Um
I didn't see one.
Okay.
» Oh yes.
» Miss Teresa Flores. Meresa Flores,
please come forward.
Theresa Flores. Meresa Flores. Is she
online then?
» All right. So, um,
» Call the question.
» All right. All those in in favor signify
by saying I.
» I.
» Uh, any opposed?
» No.
» Okay, judge. We got a hear of public
hearings posted.
» All right. Um, that hang on one second.
that that motion fails three to two that
show the chair as affirmative.
» Okay.
» Um all right. Uh
» Public hearing.
» We do have a public hearing and I will
try to get back to the regular agenda.
Um
» We got to do court order one since court
order two did not pass. So
» Oh, okay. Let me see.
» Okay,
» Hang on one second. Court order one.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
» I. Any opposed? Motion carries
unanimously.
» Okay.
» All right. Uh next we have a public
hearing on
um
» On on the uh that uh public hearings on
planning and development. Judge the CDBG
public notice and notice has been done.
I'll move that we open the public
hearing for the community development
block grant planning and development.
» Second.
» Okay. Good morning, judge,
commissioners.
» All in favor,
» Say I.
» I.
» Sorry.
» Okay. Sorry.
» Morning, judge, commissioners. Uh my
name is Luis Tamaya, director of
planning and development for Dallas
County. Uh under cooperative agreements
with area cities. Dallas is authorized
to operate a community development block
grant CDBG and home program in its
unincorporated areas and the cities of
Bal Springs, Cedar Hill, Cochril Hill,
Capel, Combine, Duncanville, Farmers BL
Branch, Glenn Heights, Hutchkins,
Highland Park, Lancaster, Saxi,
Seagerville, University Park, and
Wilmer. Uh for 2020's fiscal year 2026
funding cycle that will begin October 1,
2026, six eligible CDBG cities, Bulge
Springs, Cedar Hill, Duncanville,
Farmers Branch, Lancaster, and Wilmer
will be receiving new funds to allocate
to eligible projects.
Uh this total is 2,276,555
in funding. uh of which 2 million uh
261,000 is new funding. Uh to allocate
the funding uh staff has used the
program's traditional every other year
process that is prescribed by policy uh
to award the CDBGU funds and we're
looking to fund six cities uh Balt
Springs, Cedar Hill, Duncanville,
Farmers Branch, Lancaster, and Wilmer.
um they're scheduled to receive funding
uh to undertake new activities. Uh a
public notice outlining the proposed
allocations and activities was published
in the Dallas Morning News and a public
hearing was held and a successful 30-day
public comment period was held from June
26th to July 28th.
Um in the cities, uh the following
activities are proposed in Bolt Springs.
uh will continue to operate a code
enforcement program with $90,000 for two
years. Uh and they would like to
reconstruct a portion of Quail Run uh
Quail Drive using $22,000 in funding.
Cedar Hill would like to continue phase
two of its Somerset Drive sidewalk
project using $170,000 in CDBG funding.
[clears throat] Excuse me. Duncanville
will also continue to operate a code
enforcement with $158,000
for two years. Farmers Branch would like
to complete the water main replacement
at Shoredale Lane utilizing $187,000
in funding. Lancaster would like to
continue the Jefferson Street
reconstruction project while utilizing
$231,000
in funding. And finally, Wilmer would
like to use $349,000
in CDBG funds for a waterline project on
Second Street.
» Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
All right. Um, at this point, we'll take
uh any uh speakers on this issue, not on
other issues, but if there are any
speakers on the CDBG funding that that
was just laid out uh by Mr. Tamayo. Are
there any speakers? Are there any
speakers?
Are there any speakers? Hearing none,
I'll take a motion to close the hearing.
» Second. Moved.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
Hi.
» Hi.
» All right. And we have
return to the agenda.
» Returning back to the agenda, we have
all the resolutions and Commissioner
Price has the first one.
» Captain Shelley Knight in that
delegation. Please come forward.
This um resolution
[clears throat]
says, "Whereas the citizens of Dallas
County are fortunate to have seasoned
professionals in key positions who are
committed to a tradition of duty,
integrity, and excellence in their
employee.
And whereas Captain Shelley Knight is a
native Texanb born in Dallas County and
a proud graduate of Dotto High School.
And whereas Captain Shelley Knight
furthered her education and received a
bachelor of science and criminal justice
administration from the University of
Phoenix and later earned a master of
science in leadership and management in
criminal justice from Sam Houston State
University in Huntsville, Texas.
And whereas Captain Shelley Knight
commenced her service at the Dallas
County Sheriff's Office in August of
1991
and by 1995
was promoted to deputy sheriff Parkland
transfer warrants and traffic. And
whereas Captain Shelley Knight continued
to progress and accepted the position of
senior sergeant in March 2006,
lieutenant release and communications in
2009
and captain in November
2012, where she has worked with the Shot
Team, the Clean Air Task Force, the
North Texas Auto Theft Task Force, force
and among many significant teams in the
sheriff's department. And whereas
Captain Shelley Knight has distinguished
her career by her involvement in
professional development
and association which include the FBI
National Academy Associates, the
International Association of Chiefs of
Police, the Five Sigma Honor Society and
her service as a past president of the
lead which is the leadership inventory
for female executives and where's
Captain Shellyley Knight received the
yellow brick from the FBI
National Academy, the triology award
from the lead,
as well as being a master peace officer,
master jailer, TCL
instructor, and a firearm instructor.
And whereas Captain Shelley Knight
enjoys camping, scuba diving, traveling,
and spending time with her family and
her animals. Whereas Captain Shelley
Knight is married to Julia Martin,
retired from the Dallas County Sheriff's
Department, and they share a love for
her son, Joseph, Alex, and Jaylen.
Therefore, be it resolved
that the Dallas County Commissioner's
Court
does now join with the family, the
friends, and her Dallas County
co-workers in celebrating Captain
Shellyley Knight's welldeserved
retirement
and her 35y
year
dedicated service to the citizens of
Dallas county and I so move
» Second.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
» I.
» That motion carries unanimously.
[applause]
» Chief. Yeah. Who who who is who's
speaking for the sheriff's department?
and then will Chief Just come on come on
forward please introduce yourself for
the record please.
» Good morning Chief James Spencer uh with
the Dallas County Sheriff's Office. Uh I
just want to take this opportunity on
behalf of Sheriff Marin Brown to thank
Captain Knight for all her dedication
and service uh to Dallas County. Uh I
know for a fact that uh she has uh put
in the work. 35 years is a long time. Uh
long time to be in one place and I know
that she's looking forward to uh uh
another uh open book after she closes
this one. But I know also know that my
conversations with her that uh it was a
tough decision on her part
being how she's built. She's built to
motivate and uh make people better. And
in a sense when you make people better,
the agency you work for, it gets better.
So I just want to say that you will duly
be missed. Uh but uh I know that you
will uh continue to move on, enjoy your
family, take advantage of the
opportunity that's given to you now
because uh there's something in there
that says uh enjoy the fruits of your
labor. And I think it's time to sit back
and take a look at it and then move on
with life. Uh granted, you'll be missed
here at the sheriff's office, but uh as
they say, business will go on. Uh now we
know we won't be able to uh fill your
shoes the way you did it, but we got to
continue to move on. But I just want to
say again on behalf of the sheriff's
department, Sheriff's Office, thank you
for all your dedication and your time
that you put in with us.
» Thank you,
[applause]
Captain
» Commissioners. Thank you. Um it has been
an honor to serve Dallas County
residents. Um,
it was not my dream job, but when I got
into it, it was like, yeah, this is what
I want to do. And I set a goal very
early in my career that I wanted to be a
captain. And I made that pretty quickly.
At least as far as I'm concerned, it was
pretty quick. I've been um a captain for
a while. And
my goal everywhere I've been is to leave
it better than I found it. And hopefully
I've done that. I feel that I have. And
all I can do is say thank you to all
these people that I've worked with. I've
made some great lifelong friends and
I'll always be here to assist if they
need anything.
» Oh, thank you.
» Who is
» For a price? [laughter]
» And who is with you today?
» Yeah, introduce you.
» Uh, I have my mom with me. U, she's
retired from Dallas County. She was a
court reporter.
» All right. [applause]
of my my wife Julie who's a retired
sergeant. Um [applause]
our son Joseph,
our daughter um
our daughter Alex,
[applause] grandbaby um Jaylen. All
right.
» And my mother-in-law Vicki. And my uncle
is back there recording. He's retired
from Dallas Police Department. So,
» Of course. All right. Well, [applause]
» All I got to say is you will be missed.
» Yeah.
» Mily.
» And everywhere they've put you and I'm
the only one that's been around here
long enough to have watched you move
around and I just want to say thank you.
Uh as Chief Spencer said, um I've
watched that autotheft task force um
rise in terms of this region. they look
to Dallas County for leadership. Um,
people would be would would really be
surprised. But you have just always been
there. Wherever you've gone, you've you
you stepped up and so we just want to
say thank you and I agree my colleague,
you're going you're going to be missed.
Thank you. And I'm ask that delegation
to come forward. Let's take these
pictures and move on. Thank you so much.
Thank you for 35 years. [applause]
Thank you, Dad.
Y'all turn the camera over to Chief
William.
[laughter]
» Oh, he did.
Doug's taking the picture. Okay, got
you.
Okay,
» Congratulations.
» Thanks again. [applause]
John,
» You know, we we we talk about core
responsibility in Dallas County and we
always tell the classes as they are on
board, 70% of what we do in Dallas
County is criminal justice. to swear it
be adult to juvenile. 20% of what we do
is public health. And I don't know if
you can measure one over the other, but
let me just tell you, one of the things
we've seen, whether it's a measel
outbreak or whatever, we understand how
important public health is. a friend of
mine
and I got into a discussion the other
day
about a very famous doctor who I who is
the only person who's ever been able to
convince me to take shots. His name was
Farsy
because let me tell you something. CO
didn't do nothing else for me. CO told
me that them shots was working. I don't
give a damn about them side effects.
whatever else happened, I'm still alive
and I'm not in the back of one of those
trailers. I'm I'm telling y'all. And he
and I got into it. He said, "Well,
Fouchy, hell. Damn. Fouchy saved my
life, you know, as far as I'm concerned.
And I don't carry no too many cards with
me. I carry my county card,
my ID, and I carry my COVID card."
[applause]
Not what you want to say. Anyway, uh let
me ask the FQAC.
» You carry you carry all that.
» Yeah. Hey, hey, hey.
» Anyway, the uh every day, but uh let me
ask the delegation for FQC to please
come forward
and and and I I really we talked about
this with Parkland. I I want to thank
you know, I'm I'm usually on Parkland.
I'm going stay on Parkland. But one of
the things they've done is they've kind
of put this together uh for Dallas
County. There's twice as many FQC's,
federally qualified health centers,
FQC's in in uh Harris County as there
are in Dallas County. And our system is
is large. We're the second largest. But
let me just tell you, they cannot
operate in a silo. They need federally
qualified health centers to help them
manage our constituent population. And I
want them to know how much I we we
appreciate them. And I do want to
commend Parkland for finally
understanding that portal needed to be
open. And whereas National Health Center
Week is celebrated annually to recognize
the central role for community health
center plays in expanding access to
health care, improving health outcomes,
advancing health equity, and
strengthening communities throughout the
United States. And whereas community
health centers are nationally recognized
for providing comprehensive
highquality health care services
regardless of a person's ability to pay
and for ensuring that individuals and
families have access to care necessary
to live healthier lives. And whereas
Dallas County is served by a strong
network of community health centers,
including the LBU community clinic, the
foremost family health centers, the HHM
Health, and Prism Health North Texas,
which provide comprehensive medical,
dental, behavioral health, women's
health, pediatric ric preventative and
supportive health care services to the
residents throughout the county. And
whereas these community health centers
serve as trusted medical homes for
thousands of Dallas County children,
adults,
seniors, and families, providing person
centered care while addressing the
health care needs of vulnerable and
underserved populations.
And whereas over the past two years,
Dallas County Community Health Centers,
county leadership, and Parkland Health
have worked collaboratively
to strengthen coordination across the
healthc care safety net and create a
more connected
patient centered system of care. And
whereas this collaboration and improved
access to specialty care, breast health
services, maternal and postpartum care,
outreach services for individuals
experiencing homelessness, financial
assistance program, and other critical
health care resources while
strengthening
continuity of care, reducing barriers to
treatment, and supporting a more
coordinated ated approach to public
health that helps patients remain
connected to their trusted community
health center medical homes throughout
their healthc care journey. And whereas
these efforts exemplify
the mission and values separated during
this National Health Center Week by
demonstrating that community centered
health care is most effective when
health care systems work collaboratively
to support patients.
Strengthen trusted community health
center medical homes. improve access to
care and advance the health and
well-being of Dallas County residents.
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the
Dallas County Commissioner's Court
hereby recognizes
Community Health Center Day as part of
the National Health Center Week and
commends LBU Community Clinic, Foremost
Family Health Centers, HHM Health, and
Prism Health North Texas, and all
community health center professionals,
staff members,
board members, volunteers, and community
partners for their dedicated
improving the health and well-being of
Dallas County residents. And be it
further resolved that the Dallas County
Commissioner Court recognize the vital
role of community health center plays as
trusting medical home and acknowledges
their leadership in advancing a more
coordinated
patient centered healthc care safe
safety network that improves access to
care, strengthens continuity of care and
promotes healthier communities
throughout Dallas County and ISO Second.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
» I.
» Motion carries unanimously.
» Dr. Carlos Joy. Who? Whoever.
» Well, thank you. My name is John Carlo.
I'm the CEO of Prism Health North Texas.
Uh, and as part of the the team here in
front of we are extremely grateful to be
in front of you today. uh especially as
each of you all as individuals have been
strong champions for all of us in this
community. So both as a court and as
individuals, we really are thankful and
grateful for all of your support because
we have a lot of work to continue. Um
and I'd also want to recognize that this
is a big moment for as you mentioned our
team, our staff, our board members, and
everybody that has contributed their
time and energy and effort to assure
health in our community.
Joyce,
» By the way, by the way, congratulations
on 40 years.
» 40 years.
» Thank you [applause] very much,
Commissioner of Court. Um, we did
celebrate one of our our
» Oh, my name is Joyce Tapley and I'm the
chief executive officer for foremost
family health centers and our flagship
location of Martin Luther King Family
Clinic opened in January of 1986. So we
celebrated our 40th anniversary with our
two of our founders and so I've been
with the organization for 28 years now
and we have seen a lot of growth but we
can only grow with those who support us
and advocate on our behalf for the
funding that we need to continue to
provide the services and the quality of
care has increased significantly. So one
day we pray that Dallas County and the
and the city of Dallas will be at the
top of the leaderboard for healthy
families and individuals. But thank you
so much for your support.
» Leonor Marquez.
» Yes. Um uh Judge Jenkins and
commissioners were really happy to be
here. My name is My name is Leonor
Marquez. I'm the CEO of Losius
Cenidito's Community Clinic. Um I've
been there 21 years. I feel like a kid.
Um [laughter] but I have been there 21
years. We're very proud. We're very
proud to partnership to partner with um
Dallas County. We feel like we're very
good friends with each other and really
good friends with Parkland. We Someone
said I think Commissioner Price said you
it's we don't operate in a silo. We
absolutely don't. the the cooperation
and working together in the last I would
say 10 years has just been really really
remarkable. So I thank you for that. Um
really proud to be um uh part of this
community. Thank you.
» Anyone else? Um
» This young lady?
» Yes.
» Good morning or is it afternoon? I'm
Jolene Bagwell and I'm the chief
development and marketing officer for
LBU Community Clinic, Los Parios
Community Clinic. And what pleases me uh
beyond today's proclamation is that I
see a lot of friends in the room. It's
always good to see people working in
support of a stronger, healthier Dallas
County, but I see good friends right
before me. I don't think there's a one
of you that hasn't either been to our
clinics or worked with us in some way or
fashion.
» I worked at that clinic.
» Yeah. And you worked at And you worked
at the clinic? You were a dentist back
in what years were those? [laughter]
» Years ago.
» I actually worked as an assistant as a
dental assistant and later on uh you
know when Dr. Harris was on vacation as
a dentist in Los Vargas and it was very
proud love the community and I just want
to say you are all of you are the
backbone of the health in our
communities especially right now when
there's so much fear when there's so
much hate when there's much segregation
you are what bring us all together and I
just want to thank you for the great
work that you continue to do in our
communities thank you
» But but the safety net is and and it
gets lost in the clutter. You know,
that's what's always interesting to me.
You know, I I watch the the the
headlines and what's going on and and
the whole thing about the the big
beautiful the big ugly bill. It's just
getting lost. You know, that whole
Medicaid impact and I'm doing an
assessment because we're getting ready
to deal with Parkland's budget. And Mr.
Reed will tell you, I've been going back
and forth. I want to know exactly what
has been the impact. It's just seem to
have gotten lost. And if if less people
can afford, you know, to be enrolled and
need services and all, you know, going
back to my colleague, if you talking
about impoverished, hell, it depends on
where you were yesterday,
where you might be tomorrow after all of
this kind of takes takes place. And and
one thing we are clear about a medical
episode
can make the difference between the line
» Whether you're up here down there.
» Yeah. Depending on what that episode is.
So I I I appreciate the preemptiveness
that that federally qualified health
centers do because you're out in the
community. You're about access. You
know, people, everybody can't get to
with in my community, we call it Mama
Parkland. We can't everybody can't get
out there. You know, 40% in my district,
and they heard me say the other day, is
still transportation
challenged, but you go into the
community. And uh while you're talking
about being the child, we we basically
reared uh Dr. Carlos, he started with
Dallas County. [laughter] Most people
don't realize that he started with
Dallas County
» And he was a great connector of Dallas
County with the city of Dallas. Yep.
» All the females in the committees never
[laughter] fail. One of Dr. Carlos Brie.
» Yeah, I understand.
» I can tell you. I told you that.
» Well, I
» I always have a quarum. I never had to
worry when you were presenting.
[laughter] And uh also you having an
event this weekend, right, Dr. Carol?
» I was getting ready to go.
» Tell us a little bit about it because
I'm planning to be there in the middle
of the heat. Thank you for embarrassing
me to the point where I'm not going to
be able to answer. Oh yes, we are having
a back to school drive um and looking
and to bring children with we we have
school supplies, free haircuts, we're
doing sports physicals, immunization,
and and we're all running these programs
and we all we were just talking we have
these programs that are going on now uh
because it's absolutely essential to get
ready for school. So if it's not us,
there's a lot of other people in the
community that are offering these
events. Can you remind me the address
for the public to
» 219 Sunset Avenue in Oakliff?
» And and one of the things, last thing
I'll say is is that
» It takes a lot when you're dealing with
medical for people to trust you. I'm
back to my my green card. You know, it
takes a lot. And Dr. Garcia kept telling
me, you know, you need to take the shot.
You need to take shots. I'm not taking
no shots.
Co
» And we forgive him for that.
[laughter]
» And CO taught me I'm gonna take the
shots. But it's about trust.
And I see you work in communities where
trust is hard to come by. And so, thank
you. And especially, you know, in in
certain communities, you know, we all
can't trust everybody. I know most folks
in here not gonna remember Tuskegee
Institute,
Tuskegee Experiment.
I could understand it. The Fouchi thing
did not reach that level.
Tuskegee was intentional.
It was an experiment.
» Y
» But now this whole medical thing. Thank
you. and the fact that you have worked
diligently prison especially taken that
leadership to make sure that your
patients who need specialty care
which Parkland can provide
don't get ghosted
as you refer them. Parkland has create
the kind of collaborative nature
» That brings them back to you and that's
that's what this collaboration is all
about.
» So thank thank you.
» Thank you.
» I would like to reiterate that also too.
Um I've just come back from a national
county meeting and then a Texas wide
county meeting. And you know when you go
you're always watching and listening.
Okay. How is Dallas County doing?
And one of the things that really makes
me stand up taller, straighter, is the
fact that the partnerships
that we have in Dallas County are envied
around the country because number one,
we know our jobs. Secondly, we do a very
fine job of making those things happen.
and and and part of it are the four of
you standing here and I know what you
represent behind that which is providing
the health care
that um the residents of Dallas County
need
and so I just want to say a heartfelt
thank you and yes it is true and I was
trying to remember how many years
probably 40 45 years that I was at Los
Varios
I know it doesn't seem possible
We're all so young. But but the point of
all that being is that you're here, that
you are still here. You are still
addressing those needs and making sure
that the residents of Dallas County have
what they need. So I just want to give a
great big thank you.
» Thank you.
» Okay, y'all want to come forward?
I'm sorry.
» Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Congratulations.
» Thank you. I'll see you Saturday.
» [applause]
» Commission.
» Yeah, I've got a couple
of
actually I have two and they are both
important in their own ways. The first
one is the National Overdose Awareness
Month. All of us realize that we live in
a reality and that reality is not all
always pretty pictures. But the point of
it is that in the people who are walking
up right now
um Laura Edmonds and you know all that
you do Dr. Dr. Hang just the variety of
things that compose what is public
health in Dallas County. and I'm proud
that you stand up.
Whereas every individual possesses
inherent dignity and value, and the loss
of any life to substance abuse is a
profound tragedy that reverberates
throughout families, neighborhoods, and
our entire community. And whereas
National Overdose Awareness Month serves
as a solemn reminder of those we have
lost, a tribute to the families and
loved ones left to grieve, and a call to
action to eliminate the stigma
surrounding addiction that too often
prevents individuals from seeking
lifesaving help. And whereas public
health crises of this magnitude require
a compassionate, coordinated, and
multifaceted response rooted in
evidence-based prevention, accessible
treatment, harm reduction strategies,
and a long-term recovery support.
And whereas local public health
initiatives, including Dallas County
Health and Human Services, the overdose
response team, and regional behavioral
health partners, worked tirelessly to
expand access to life-saving
interventions such as Nelloxin,
Empower by Standard,
standards with emergency response tools,
and maintain a critical local resourc.
resources like the Dallas County
Overdose Prevention Hotline.
And whereas the Dallas County Criminal
Justice Department
in vital partnership with the Dallas
County District Attorney's Office, the
Public Defenders Office, Health and
Human Services, the Judiciary, the
Sheriff's Department, Parkland Health
and Hospital System, and Community
Advocates works to expand access to
Nlloxxony to help prevent fatal
overdoses.
The Dallas County Criminal Justice
Department collaborates with Parkland
Correctional Health as they actively
confront the substance abuse crisis
within the justice system by supporting
and advancing the inj medicationass
assisted treatment or Matt program for
individuals in the Dallas County Jail.
Whereas August 31st is recognized
globally as International Overdose
Awareness Day, providing a dedicated
moment to unite in remembrance, honor
the grief of families and friends, and
pledge continued action toward a future
free from preventable overdose deaths by
standing together in education, empathy,
and action throughout the month of
August and concluding with International
Overdose Awareness Day. We reaffirm our
commitment to building a healthier,
safer environment where every person has
the support they need to thrive. Now,
therefore, Dallas County Commissioner's
Court does hereby proclaim August 2026
as National Overdose Awareness Month and
specifically highlight August the 31st,
2026 as International Overdose Awareness
Day. We urge all residents, community
organizations,
health care providers, and businesses to
observe this month and day by raising
awareness of overdose prevention,
supporting local recovery resources, and
extending compassion and dignity to all
those affected by substance abuse. And I
so move
» Second
in favor.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
» I. Any opposed? Motion carries
unanimously.
» You and who do we have here today with
Dr. Wong?
» Yes, Commissioner Daniel, thank you so
much for your resolution. I mean, as you
pointed out, a death due to overdose is
such a tragic and preventable event. And
so, um, bringing this awareness is so
important for our community and the
great work that our team here, uh, has
been doing. Uh, I don't know, is Katie
here?
make it
and uh some of the other team members uh
Miranda Ally I don't know some of them
want to add something but and and it is
as we've heard also earlier it's in
partnership uh with so many of our
partners partner again metro care um all
all the partners are working to do to
get as you mentioned life saving an
ollock zone out in the community
educating people how to uh use it the
overdose response teams I know we have
some of the vending machines out at with
different partners and Metro Care. Uh so
it is a team effort to do this and
they're already seeing some of the
results and some of the declines in
overdose related mortality. So um thank
you for that and again let me see if
anyone else wants to say something.
» Hi, good morning. I'm Laura Edmonds with
the Dallas County Criminal Justice
Department. Thank you so much for the
resolution um this morning. Just wanted
to briefly acknowledge we do a lot of
partnership with Dallas County Health
and Human Services with their opioid
response um task force. We did get a
grant through HHS to expand a lock zone
distribution and through that we were
able to install an aloxxone distribution
stands at the end of June in the Frank
Crowley Court building and in the Dallas
County Jail. So in about that six week
time period since we put those up, we've
had over 1,400 boxes taken from those
stands which
» Really highlights. We're really working
hard to keep them stocked. That's been
the biggest challenge so far. Um, but it
does go to show the demand and the need
for this life-saving medication and to
make it easily accessible for the
community. So, a big thank you to
Parkland uh to Parkland Jail Health for
all the work that they're doing with the
Inel Matt program and the jail release
program. And of course, a big thank you
to HHS for all of their efforts and
support.
» The partnerships.
» Yeah, absolutely.
» Huge difference. Thank you to all of you
for being here. And thank you for that
number because I know each time I go
kind of go through the Frank Crow and
going to the jail and right there next
to the vending machines
» Is is is is the vending machine and it's
uh it stays pretty empty.
» Yes. Yes.
» Yeah.
» Right now the biggest challenge is just
getting enough the lock zone in stock
just to keep
» So is your is your challenge product or
just getting product or what?
» Yes. right now. So, we had a bunch that
we got and uh we just didn't anticipate
the demand of them p being taken so
rapidly. So, right now we're just
actively working to order more to get
more in stock so that we can keep the
machines full. So, um you're right, we
stock them and then probably two days
later we go, they're already empty. Um
but again, it's it's one of those
problems where I always think this is a
good problem. Um because it just goes to
show how much this is needed and so
really thankful to be a part of it. In
today's agenda, we have several items of
distribution. So, congratulations. Great
job.
» Thank you.
» Want to at least come forward and have a
[applause]
center.
» Thank you very much.
You know, we talk a lot about
preventions
of of many of the illnesses that exist
in Dallas County, and the next
resolution is one of those that I think
we almost take for granted and don't
even think twice about it. Um, and it is
the uh National Immunization Awareness
Month.
So let's talk a moment about that. The
month of August is designated as
national immunization awareness. Yeah,
we can come up again, right?
» Because public health is wide
as annual observance aimed at promoting
the significance of immunizations. It
also seeks to encourage the importance
of maintaining recommended
vaccinations throughout the duration of
life.
And whereas according to the American
Association of Immunologists,
the uh immune system is the body's
defense system to keep people healthy
and intersects with most aspects of
human health and disease. Vaccines are
used to train the imu the immune system
and to establish memory ahead of time
without the risk of infection to provide
effective immunization against specific
diseases.
And whereas the Centers of Disease
Control launches their RISE campaign
routine immunizations on schedule for
everyone in May of 2026.
This initiative provides actionable
strategies, resources, and data to help
citizens get back on their scheduled
vaccination routines. Its focus is to
catch groups of teens and children up on
their vaccines since their rates
declined during CO 19.
And whereas the clinical services
division of the Dallas County Health and
Human Services is committed to ensuring
quality ensuring quality assurance by
protecting the health and well-being of
the residents of Dallas County. The
Dallas County immunization clinics
provide adult, child, routine, and
travel immunizations to residents. In
doing so, they will continue to fulfill
their mission by promoting healthy
communities and environments in Dallas
County. Now, therefore, be it resolved,
the Dallas County Commissioner's Court
formally recognizes August 2026 as a
national immunization awareness month
and encourages all to get back on and
continue their vaccination schedules to
help us to maintain a healthy world. And
I so move Second.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
» I.
» Motion carries unanimously.
» Who do I see all over the county?
» Uh, now Commissioner Daniel, thank you
so much for this resolution and um
bringing attention to the importance of
immunizations. It's sort of crazy that
we're still having to uh fight some of
these fights about it that uh you know
in this day and age we're seeing measles
outbreaks, things like that. Uh but it
is so important. It was one of the
greatest public health achievements of
the last century and uh it's effective
and it's so great to hear Commissioner
Price how uh big an advocate you are for
immunizations and life saving as you
recognized. Um so um it it right now
August in particular is usually our
busiest busiest month. It's back to
school time and so it's very timely uh
to encourage everyone uh to get those
back to school shots and everyone just
to make sure that they're up to date on
their immunizations and and as we said
before this is all with partnerships
with the FQC's and if they're still here
they're tremendous partner um and and
the staff here and you all see Marissa
out Saturdays and weekends and late at
night in our community events and
Sabrina with the vac the immunization
program and all the other partners and
and let me see if Dr. Lozano wants to
say something who came from one of the
FQC's also and is out there promoting
all of our vaccine clinics. Uh but it is
such an important and core uh effort for
our uh health department and it is one
of the most important things that we can
do. So thank you.
» Do not take it for granted.
Again, thank you for the [clears throat]
all the court members um for the opening
of the Poke Street Clinic
uh thank ARPA money uh for that uh that
need and I have a portion of my staff
now is working on what I call an
outreach
uh plan. We saw we got a heat map. We
saw how many were going into the main
campus at 2377
and now it's about accessibility and I
don't know how from that side but I've
asked her to talk about how you reroute
those individuals
with those services into uh in into that
particular clinic. uh you know we we've
got to we've got to help manage I mean
people a lot of like homing pigeons they
just keep you know if you keep they
they'll keep going they'll keep going
there when we have taken and basically
created a better access excess model
additionally my staff told me that uh
you have a service
a transportation service and I was
really pleased to look at, you know,
those particular numbers, how you manage
pickup,
deliverables,
um, times, etc.
I was real pleased to find that out. And
so that goes that goes a long way. Is it
two vans or one? I can't remember. So
much so much data. But but you do a
great job of getting those people to our
services who cannot afford to get there.
And so thank you.
» Hi, good morning. Thank you so much for
having us. I just wanted to recognize
our staff. Um they are the ones that are
the boots on the ground. They are the
ones that are working tirelessly in our
clinics. So if anything, I just want to
make sure that we recognize them. I know
everybody's not here, but they deserve a
round of applause because they work
tirelessly
um [applause]
um developing new partners. I mean, they
I I just have a great team. I just want
to make sure that they're recognized.
And then speaking about uh
transportation, Commissioner Price, we
also have developed some transportation
for our moms in Dallas County. So we for
our healthy start program, we do have a
transportation services that is
connecting them to um their medical
appointments and anything that they
need. So we're very super excited about
that, you know, breaking those barriers.
» Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Losano. And
your backpack is open. [laughter]
» It is.
» Good morning, everyone, commissioners,
judge, members of the court. My name is
Misa Gonzalez. I'm the community
outreach program manager at Dallas
County Health and Human Services. Thank
you, Commissioner Daniel, for this
resolution. Um, as they've all said, you
know, vaccination programs over the past
50 years have prevented an estimated 154
million deaths in 14 different diseases,
according to a study published in the
Lancet. Her immunity is crucial when
looking to contain an outbreak. But as
vaccination rates decrease, as we've
seen, the spread of once eliminated
diseases continue to grow.
The first vaccine for measles was
marketed in 1963 and the CDC declared
measles was eliminated in 2000. By May
2025, a total of 1,024 confirmed measles
cases were reported across 31
jurisdictions. A total of 14 outbreaks
have occurred, of which 96 were reported
among patients who were unvaccinated or
no known vaccination status. And I hate
to say this, Commissioner Price and
everybody, but uh HHS Secretary Robert
F. Kennedy Jr. is a long-standing
vaccine skeptic, as we all know,
» Rooted in discredited research. The
vaccine autism connection, which he
continues to promote, was originally
based on two flawed and now retracted
studies by Andrew Wakefield. Wakefield's
claims, which lacked proper controls and
were later found to be falsified, have
since been scientifically disproven. And
despite this, experts are concerned that
Kennedy's prominent role and outspoken
skepticism could erode public
confidence. And we're seeing that with
Fouchy, what we saw earlier this week in
the news, potentially leading to a
decline in vaccination rates and an
increase in preventable diseases.
Although he advocates for public
transparency and maintains a vaccination
will remain an option, his influence as
HHS secretary could introduce challenges
to establish federal regulatories
practices.
I've personally seen a decrease for
demand in childhood vaccines in our
Hispanic communities for fear that we
are ICE or we will turn over their
information to ICE, which are valid
concerns.
Uh while skepticism, fear and
misinformation continue to circulate,
the scientific consensus is clear.
Getting vaccinated is a responsible and
powerful choice that protects not only
the individuals but also a the wider
community. We encourage everyone uh to
stay updated on their vaccines. Parents
and guardians, we encourage all your
children to get their vaccines updated
before school, not after school starts.
Uh Dallas County offers immunizations
for adults and children at any of our
nine new locations. One including the
new location on South Poke Street, No
Cliff. Immunizations for children
uninsured or underinsured. There's a $10
fee for the first visit, five for any
subsequent visits. However, no one will
be turned away because of their
inability to pay because we know that
cost too can be a barrier. Uh you can
find us in the community this week. Uh
this Wednesday from um 10:00 a.m. to 1,
August the 5th, we will be at Bontton
Farms. Uh at 6911 Bear Street. Saturday,
August 8th from 10:00 a.m. to 2 will be
at Truid Elementary School, 1810 Indale
Avenue in Dallas. And then Saturday, we
will be hosting a uh children's back to
school immunizations clinic at DCHHS
from 9:00 a.m. to noon. Just remember to
bring a hard copy of your child's
immunizations record and we'll get
everybody up to date. Thank you.
» You take every opportunity to do your
community education. Yes, I do.
» It is noted and I say thank you.
» Thank you. Thank you everyone.
» And we love your passion. You know, you
always speak from the heart. We
appreciate
» Up. She shows.
» I'm a I have a servant's heart.
» Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
» Thank you.
One other person I just wanted to see
wants to say Ashken Tassen is over the
Garland Clinic and they're a new partner
also you know is you know the Garland
sort of provi offered their service and
we're providing the services out in
Garland and Ashton's done and his team
are doing a great job in that community
and I don't know if you want to say
anything but it's been great partnership
also.
happy to contribute to the mission of
healthy people, healthy communities that
somebody had mentioned trust. That's
what we're all about, building trust,
being in the community, you know,
valuing our community partners and
removing barriers to access. So, we do
our strive for our best and uh we have a
great team here that's helping us fill
out that mission. So, thank you.
» Thank you.
» We're not done yet.
» Please come forward. See
[applause]
you
begin.
Thank you.
» Thank you very much.
[clears throat]
» Thanks.
» Great to see you. Thanks.
» All right. The uh last resolution is
mine. Uh this is for uh Red Ribbon
Wheat. If we could have the Lonear Young
Marines come forward, please. Lonear
Young Marines. Thank you.
It's good to see you all here. Let me
read the resolution if I may. Whereas
the Lonear Young Marines is a national
youth leadership and service program for
boys and girls ages eight through
completion of high school. And whereas
the program is modeled after the Marine
Corps and focuses on developing
responsible, drug-free citizens through
leadership, teamwork, community service,
and healthy living. And whereas the
Lonear Young Marines currently serves
approximately 25 youth members in the
North Dallas area and drug demand
reduction is one of the Young Marines
core missions. And whereas throughout
the year, the young Marines participate
in substance abuse, prevention,
education, community outreach, and red
ribbon week activities such as school
visits, distributing anti-drug
materials, resource bags, hosting DDR-5K
runs that promote healthy, drug-free
lifestyles. And whereas Dallas County
Health and Human Services were uh have
identified 300 3,79 overdoses in 2025,
out of which 25 uh youth ages 10 through
19 died to due to overdose and 111
people died ages 20 to 20 to 34 and 385
people died ages 35 through 64 in 2025.
Whereas Dallas County continues to
address the opioid epide epidemic and
growing threat of fentanyl and
methamphetamines through the
preventative initiatives, education,
partnering through community
organizations such as the Lone Star
Young Marines to protect the youth of
Dallas County and reduce substance
abuse. And whereas the red red ribbon
week unites families, educators, health
care professionals, businesses, and
community leaders in support of youth
substance abuse pro pre prevention,
education, and positive youth
development. And whereas the Dallas
County commends the Young Star Youth
Marines for their dedication to
preventing youth substance abuse and
serving as exemplar leaders and role
moders for not only just Dallas County,
but youth nationwide. Now there
therefore be it resolved that the Dallas
County Commissioner's Court hereby
recognizes Red Ribbon Week in Dallas
County and affirms its commitment to the
rising awareness about the importance of
the prevention of youth substance abuse
and encourages all residents of schools,
businesses, and community leaders to
participate in red ribbon activities
this October to promote healthy drugfree
lifestyles and ISO move.
» Second.
All those in favor signify by saying I.
» I.
» Motion carries unanimously.
[applause]
» Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Thank
you so much for having us here. It is an
honor to be here. Uh my name is uh Mr.
Nwin. I am formerly staff sergeant
United States Marine Corps. But before I
begin, I'd like to give opportunity for
one of our smallest here to give you a
snapshot of what Lonear Young Marines is
about. Step forward, Lance Corporal Nuin
D. If you can see him, he's right
underneath the podium right here.
[laughter]
[snorts]
» Uh the Lonear Young Marines is a
nonprofit organization dedicated to
strengthen the lives of of America's
youth. And some things that we focus on
are And as [sighs]
some things that we focus on are
physical fitness, drug reduction,
leadership, and discipline. And I like
the Young Marines because it helps me be
a better person and stay physically fit.
» Excellent.
» All right.
» Thank you. [applause]
» Again, thank you so much for having us
here. Uh that's just a small snapshot of
what we do here. You know, we in a
digital world where kids are are behind
iPads and and and Roblox and Minecraft
and all that. You know, we want these
kids to be a part of something to be a
part of something bigger than
themselves. Something centered around
our core values of teamwork, leadership,
and discipline. Uh something that, you
know, we say is it's not about me, it's
about we. It's not about I, it's about
us. you know, and uh here at Lonear, we
say we are
» Lonear.
» We are
» Lonear.
» We are
» Lonear.
» Thank you for so much, ladies and
gentlemen.
[applause]
» Please come on up and get your picture.
One more.
» Yes. Come on in.
Come on in.
Well done.
» Congratulations.
What's your name?
Thank you all for being here.
» Thank you all. Um Josh, I would like a
moment of privilege real quick before we
continue. Um, two weeks ago, um, uh, the
justice of the peace, the judge, the
honorable judge Mike Jones, uh, was
recognized as the 2026,
uh, uh, jud, um, justice of the peace
judge of the year by all the justices of
the peace and constables association of
Texas. Uh, he represents prein for place
one. And I just want to congratulate
publicly to the honorable uh justice of
the peace Mike Jones. Congratulations.
[applause]
» Okay.
» Way too cute.
» Now
presentation budget.
» We did that one already.
» Yeah. Presentations.
» Nothing else. Okay.
» All right. So,
» Dr.
has
» On the influence.
» One more time, Dr. Jang.
» Sorry, you're faster than I expected.
» All right. Where is it?
My sister. I know. Like
All right. Good morning.
» Good morning, Dr. One more time.
» Break from some of these updates, but a
lot going on. Uh,
» Okay.
» It's warming up or something.
Things have to warm up.
» Thank you very much.
» I mean, I can go ahead and start
» Once he wakes up from the break.
» Yeah. As it wakes up here. uh you know
the first just updates on COVID uh and
our surveillance and these are available
on our dashboard on the website but uh
you know we typically now have seen
these seasonal uh sort of increases in
the summer. Uh we're seeing a very
slight increase uh as has been seen in
past uh years but certainly much lower
uh than what we've seen in the past. So
uh some increase uh but not uh nearly
what we've had in the past. The vaccine
still work but some of that is due to
that seasonal nature and also some of
the waning immunity uh when it's as it's
been longer since people have uh had the
vaccine and things. So but you can again
see some increases in these indicators.
Um fortunately uh the mortality rate has
been very low and still flat.
Most recently,
uh wastewater surveillance also shows
the same indicators again some slight uh
increases uh recently but in the context
of everything else uh it's much lower
and we still monitor the variance.
Nothing new that's of concern.
Everything's
so again still continuing to watch
closely though. Uh, as we talked about
vaccines, uh, very important and
especially now with the back to school,
here's some of our, uh, vaccine clinics
and our community outreach efforts. And
with Marissa and her team, uh, here's
what we have scheduled for COVID and
flu. Uh, and then also uh, for some of
the childhood vaccines and again back to
school right now is the uh, big time and
we encourage parents to don't wait till
the last minute. Please try to get them
as soon as you can.
» Okay. But are you monitoring year
overyear where where are we with these
vaccines? I know
» So it's actually yeah we're very
concerned that you know our numbers that
we're seeing are uh down dramatically
and it's uh you know if you've been to
our building sometime right back to
school the lobby can have lined out the
door can be filled. We are not seeing
that this year and last year we didn't
see it either and we've seen it actually
in the actual numbers. Um and a lot of a
variety of reasons. Some of it, you
know, we the mixed messages coming from
the federal uh level. Uh more confusion
uh about vaccine recommendations. Uh
there was a state law that was just
passed last session that made it easier
for parents to opt out of the school
requirements. And then also what we hear
and uh Marissa and her team and is that
there a lot of our community is
concerned about the ICE um situation and
don't want to come out. Uh it was good
again we do it in partnership with the
FQC's we were talking about uh some of
you know the if you know people are
seeing the same thing I mean hopefully
maybe different uh efforts might uh be
more comfortable for the community and
we hope that they're you know getting it
at other places if not through us but
we're definitely seeing that decline and
when we look at the overall county
numbers that the state's now starting to
provide us we are seeing you know
declines in the childhood vaccination
rates and that's what we'll see some of
this, you know, I mean, again, what I
mentioned earlier with measles, it's
just crazy that um, you know, in 2026,
uh, and I I'll show you some of those
numbers in a second.
» Yeah. that. But I just but I guess
[clears throat] my charge as chair of
public health is that that you
crocodatize a plan that says that you
FQC's
um ISDs
that somehow there's a
a different kind of outreach. I don't
know how you can cure that uh concern
about certain federal agencies but but
one thing about you know the this whole
disease is that uh
whereas ICE or anybody else doesn't stop
there and that whole her immunity and
contagiousness
it's
we've just got to at least say we're
from Dallas County side
putting forth a plan and I I guess
that's what I'd like to ask you to do
say who's in charge so we can see it and
try to help disseminate it best we can.
» Sure. And as you know we have our
monthly immunization uh call bringing
together all of the partners. We keep
» Also trying to outreach in particular
the FQC's and other partners county
medical society. Um, and so yeah, it is
a lot of collaboration and partnership
that works on this, but um,
» But I want to see your dissemination
with those FQC's
where they're located. And I appreciate
the fact that we we got that heat map,
you know, we know who's going where
coming into 2377,
but I want to know about we got all
these clinics and I want to know, you
know, who's utilizing, how do we reach
out in that community? uh that you were
able my staff was able to call those
numbers. So I want to make sure we send
them and saying hey at um Poke Street
we're here we got immunization Monday
through Friday etc because I mean you're
not open on the weekend either except
that your people out in the community
» So I just want to see a plan
» And and you know uh Dr. Hong Parkland
has done a really good job on um saying
community clinic your community clinic
in your neighborhood close by. You don't
have to drive a long way. Uh feel safe,
secure. Use those kind of words without
saying what the government doesn't want
to say. Don't be scared. And we're
seeing uh and all of our all of us on
saw those numbers already on the
Parkland briefing. Uh the people are
driving more into the community clinics
than downtown Parkland, you know, the
main parkland. So
» That message I think is sounding good. I
don't know what the future will hold on
this but I think doing something like
that. We are in your neighborhood. You
don't have to drive far
» And um
» Yeah. And as you know this Marissa and
her team are trying
» Oh, they're doing a great job. Yeah.
» But I mean it's going to take some time.
» Yes.
» Thank you.
» Well, thanks. And and again, any other
messaging or whatever that uh you want
us to amplify or want us to get out,
please let us know. Uh so good news, uh
you know, flu season is over. Here's the
CDC flu surveillance report. Everyone's
green on the states. Um this is our own
uh respiratory virus dashboards. And
similarly, uh flu has gone down. Uh
we've seen uh RSV uh has uh lower
activity this year than some in the past
and it's hopefully it's coming down.
Also um wastewater surveillance shows
similar things. No activity for flu. Uh
RSV some a little activity but again in
uh compared to uh prior seasons and
things much lower amplitude.
uh WestNile virus. Uh the latest uh this
year we've had a total of 140 traps that
have tested positive for Westnau virus.
Fortunately, we have had no human
westnau virus cases uh reported to date
uh and zero deaths. Uh so that's good.
If you look at the uh Westnau virus
vector index comparing to prior years
and that's been something that you know
really is sort of an indicator of the
severity this year uh we've been pretty
low activity uh compared to certainly
2024 and other prior years.
» What do the traps look like? Because I'm
getting complaint. Uh did we did we
spray in one of my cities south? Have we
had to institute spraying? Oh yeah, we
spray when the traps come back.
Positive. Testing positive.
» Yeah, but but what do they look like
year over year? That I guess that's what
I'm looking for.
» Say that again.
» I know in I'm I'm trying to find out
what what are they what are they looking
like? Has the heat um created a issue
with regards to people are complaining
about more and more mosquitoes. I'm just
wondering what do the traps reveal?
» Yeah. And we test uh I mean we spray
after we get a positive trap for Westnau
virus. We don't just spray for nuisance
but we do spray when we get the positive
test back.
» And so we can provide you more
information if you want. Okay.
» Um again we were talking about measles.
Uh you can see already now in 2026 and
2025 was like the highest number in 30
years. Uh now we've already thus far
just in 2026 surpassed uh the number of
measles cases nationally uh than what we
saw last year. Uh also the state health
department just sent out alert last week
about an outbreak in Montgomery County.
Um some I think four confirmed cases out
there. So, um, it's again tragic that
we're in 2026 still talking about it
when it was declared eliminated in the
United States in the year 2000 and very
likely and they're waiting until after
the midterms uh that's going to be
declared that we've lost our um
elimination status for me.
Did want to mention then cycllospora
uh you probably been hearing about it in
the news actually. It's interesting. I
actually did when I was with CDC
investigated the very first US outbreak
of cycles
quite a few years ago. Now it's uh we're
seeing it more. It's a parasite causing
this diarrheal illness. Um that's when
they people consume uh contaminated uh
food or water. Um and the symptoms you
know really this profuse watery diarrhea
some cramping loss of appetite. But one
of the distinctive things is that it can
come in the cycles and uh so you can you
get it for a few days and then it goes
away. You get some relief and then it
comes back again. And that was one of
the things that uh certainly
distinguished that. Um it's been linked
to various um outbreaks like uh I think
in the past raspberries, cilantro, uh
this one is now to the iceberg lettuce
from Taylor Farms. uh it can be treated
uh with uh trimethopone sul
sulfamethoxisole
uh antibiotic with good relief. Uh but
the symptoms again can last weeks to
months untreated. So really um you know
if someone develops uh diarrhea that
doesn't go away after several days, see
your uh healthc care provider. they can
do special tests to identify that and it
can be treated uh with um antibiotics.
And and one of the diff difficulties uh
with sort of investigating these is that
it usually appears maybe a week after
the person consumes the contaminated
product and it can be anywhere from two
to 14 days after. Uh so it's hard to
identify always what someone ate two
weeks before. Um, so some of the just uh
uh since May 1st, CDC has confirmed or
is investigating more than 18,000 cases
now in 45 states, 423 hospitalizations.
Michigan is sort of the epicenter of
this nine-state outbreak linked to the
iceberg lettuce that I mentioned
supplied by Taylor Farms farms. They've
reported over 11,000 people infected,
193 persons hospitalized. And then it
was just reported I think Monday two
people in Michigan died in connection
with this outbreak of cycles ris. And in
as of uh yesterday in Dallas County we
have 33 confirmed that have closed cases
and additional 14 open investigations
that we're still trying to close. So the
numbers are not near what Michigan's
seen. There's not been any specific um
» Why do you believe that? That's that's
where I was going. got 334
open investigate. What what what what's
what's going on here differently?
» Well, again, you know, the in Michigan
there was that specific that
contamination of that lettuce and I
think it was linked, let's say, to Taco
Bells, right? You know, that's part of
what at the federal level they try to
trace back where the distribution of
these products are. It seems to be more
in that area. Again, based on the
surveillance, we're not seeing that same
scale of an outbreak, but it's out
there. And we do seasonally see this
now. We we every season we're seeing
cases uh that it's difficult to pinpoint
when it's just these small numbers. And
again, we ask the people that's part of
our investigations, you know, what did
you eat? But they don't remember exactly
what they ate two weeks ago and to find
some of those links. But that's
» Ask a quick question because it's I
don't know the answer to this. I'm going
to ask you. So Taylor Farms is a giant
company, right? They have offices here
in Dallas. If you go to a Walmart or
Sam's and you buy lettuce, you're buying
Taylor Farms lettuce. A lot of times if
you go to any other store and you buy a
lettuce
uh that's branded as that store's
lettuce, you're buying Taylor Farms
lettuce. My understanding of this
outbreak is that lettuce from Selenus,
California
um in large quantities were shipped to
Taco Bell and Michigan and maybe one
other state and that led to their
outbreak. Is there any concern for uh
citizens, residents of of Dallas County
and North Texas about eating at a Taco
Bell or eating uh lettuce or buying
Taylor Farms lettuce? I've been asked
that. I don't know the answer. again
right now when you know they try to do
the trace backs of those uh sort of the
specific
um you know let us that's been in the
distribution that went to Michigan uh
those have been pulled now um and so
there's not any known uh sort of
pipeline to any of our places locally in
Texas or in Dallas County and we're not
seeing the numbers like is being seen in
Michigan even in Michigan, you're
starting to hear that the numbers are
going down because they have pulled the
identified products and so they're off
the shelves. Uh so at this point, we
don't see any specific um indication
that there's a greater risk, you know,
with that. Now, um you know, we we
recommend and some of the
recommendations that we say, you know,
it's still uh follow and and listen for
any of the food recalls that are
identified uh and follow those
recommendations. also just proper food
practices. Um, and you know, they're
washing um like lettuce, get a head of
lettuce rather than the shredded kind.
Take off the first outer layers and try
to wash it. But that doesn't, you know,
we say it's it doesn't kill the cyclops.
It doesn't, you know, totally get rid of
it. Uh, but, you know, thus far in
Texas, in Dallas County, there's no
indication that we're part of that
distribution.
» Thank you.
» So, um,
And I just wanted to finish with, you
know, last time we met it was before
FIFA World Cup. We were doing a lot of
planning for uh all of uh whatever might
happen during that with all the global
visitors. We had it all in place. We
were monitoring fortunately. Uh things
went great and no, you know, major
outbreaks, anything else that uh was
surprising. So that's what we want to
have happen. We want to be overprepared
and have uh nothing that actually alarms
us. So
» Yeah, great
» Great again, great teams, great
partnerships, everyone that was working
on this.
» It's those partnerships again.
» Yeah,
» Thank you.
» Okay. Um anything else you got, Judge?
» Um nothing else? Um
» Oh, you've got the next few And and the
FIFA FIFA thing was a good uh
» It was a great
» Segue. Yeah. Segue. Yeah. Especially
» Because of some of the things that
happened.
» Yeah. Well, you want some of the usual
stuff that happened.
» I think this is the judge.
» No, it's judges.
» Monkey mugs at FIFA.
» Nothing changes.
FIFA was supposed to be a glowing
example of the international cultural
mixing in peace,
love, and competition.
But racism raised its ugly head once
again. Monkeys, sounds, and slurs were
on full display.
Yahoo News reported as much under the
headline, FIFA opens investigation
into behavior of Argentina
fans at World Cup. Here's the snippet.
Popular African-American streamer
Show Speed
has attended a handful of World Cup
matches over the past few weeks.
Unfortunately,
he's at the center of FIFA's latest
investigation.
It's been reported that Show Speed
dealt with racist behavior from
Argentina fans during his Tuesday match
against Egypt.
There was one clip from his live stream
that shows an Argentina fan in the crowd
making a monkey like gesture.
This is reportedly the seventh time that
ISB has
dealt with despicable behavior at the
World Cup. During last week's thriller
between Argentina and Cape Verdie, a
different fan told him, "Go cry at the
zoo."
It was probably no happenstance that
American president
backed Argentina
in his bid for the championship.
You'll catch that on the way home.
Argentina has a history of denying the
ex existence of blackness in any form.
Argentina's
whitening process
has been studied in depth by US
academic
Eric Edwards in her book hiding
in plain sight.
It was published last year by the
University of Alabama Press.
and I quote, "The whitening project
was a successful endeavor
in terms of the eraser
of blackness," said Edwards. The idea
that somebody could be the descendant of
a slave,
just not there.
But at least FIFA launched an
investigation
of the blatant racist acts committed at
the games.
Parkland
just called their monkey mug game.
Teachable moment.
The band plays on
judicial performance at Frank Crowley.
First of all, start with congratulations
to Miss Randolph
and the criminal justice team, to Miss
Petri
and her team,
to Miss Lindberg and Miss and and and
Judge Kim Novels and their team. They
worked also
two weekends ago
and they made sure that Dallas County
achieved
it's 90%
as a result of that 90%
we always talk about what's at stake.
The public never seems to understand
what's at stake when we talk about
meeting these goals.
Um, I did get the memo. 33
million dollar was extended
56 projects.
Town of Addison, Cedar Hill, Dallas
County, I think had about 11 million.
Dallas County Hospital District, City of
Dallas, City of Dotto, City of Grand
Prairie, City of Hutchkins, City of
Irving, Lancaster ISD, North Richland
Hills, City of Richardson.
These were nonprofits
that would have been impacted had we not
met that 90% goal. And so I just want to
say thank you to that team that worked
over the weekend, made sure that they
also that we that we did achieve it.
August 1st was the deadline and you out
did yourself by a week. However, there's
a process in place that uh we're not
going to wait till the last minute. They
have to continue to do that. That is too
much cardia cardiac.
Too much. But anyway, $33 million.
That's what you say the taxpayers of
Dallas County, 56 projects. And so, I
just want to say thank you.
In addition to that, this week as of
August 33,
August 3rd, we had 425 cases. Based on
our manual process, AIS report of the
425 cases, 118
were DPD cases and 307 were other LEA
cases.
These cases, these 425 cases are people
who have been in our system who are over
30 days.
These are people with warrant holds and
respective cases have not been received
by the district attorney's office.
of the 425
cases
um we have not yet received.
I have a breakdown of where they who
where do they belong to and I won't go
through all the twos and ones and um
you know juvenile sheriff DPD has 118
Dart has 33. Irvin has 87.
Mosquite has 87. The rest of them are
onesie Tuesdays and uh but all equal
$425
that are over 30 days in the Dallas
County Jail. Do the calculations at $98
a day, you know, and while I'm
[clears throat] going to be, you know,
continue to be that champion for asking
about
that facility is 50 years old. this this
this V rate for the first time is going
to give facilities what they need. And I
appreciate facilities because we call
them on the weekends, we call them on
Saturdays and Sundays and they respond.
And what happens when we get too many
people in there
and the Texas Commission on Jail
Standards says we cannot have people out
of housing for more than 24 hours.
» [gasps]
» They get a little rambunctious
hours. They were there the day before
when I was there the night and then I
came back the next day and they were
still there. Came a little rambunctious.
We lost a few windows and things in in
the back but facilities got on that and
uh was able to do it but
DPD uh handled it. something happened in
the system, but as I told Sergeant
Martin, you know, they can't wait. We
always got to know what's going on. And
that's one of the reasons we're in and
out of that facility two or three times
a day and into the night. Third watch is
getting better. Parkland, thank you.
They are getting better. Still a
challenge, but it's getting better.
I appreciate the fact that by the way I
was in the meetings yesterday. Teleat uh
Miss Foster Allen uh Dr. Watkins I
didn't know they had two classes
yesterday. I didn't make the 7 o'clock
class but I didn't know about it but I
knew I made the nine o'clock CA class
and uh we we we moved forward.
So it was a good meeting uh of
individuals.
A5 is not the optimal place to handle it
because we were having computer issues
uh there. So I don't know what what the
next class arrangements are. We need to
move it we need to move move it around.
» I'll get with facilities and look into
it a different location.
» Yeah. A A5 was they were losing computer
connections. They were and we were we
were having to re for two hours. We were
just it it it made no it made no sense.
We we can't we can't do it there. But I
do want to thank the sheriff's
department. Um
and and all those who were were a part
of it. Uh I still want somebody to help
me. Uh what's what's that person uh that
they say they're looking for? I'm
looking for Chief Robinson.
I still haven't seen Chief Robbins. I
need to see Chief Robbins.
Okay. I haven't seen nothing. I need to
see Chief Robbins. He He has returned,
right? Okay. Just checking
the following two district courts.
They're on their way out. Thank God. And
Greyhound. Carter Thompson, the 194th
and Ernest White. Uh well the 194th is
Ern Judge Ernest White and Carter
Thompson is a CDC 5 um
[sighs]
district and county courts they had
resets
those courts that have five plus resets
uh for jail population as of 83 2026
we had 246
individuals
in felony courts. 2,000 that have an
average length of stay of 29
days.
Average length of stay 29 days.
That's 2,000. That is that is that's a
little bit better than not quite a third
of our population.
Like I said, we reached the 90%
compliance. We did that. Um,
what else? Last night, midnight,
we had 94%
7,000 individuals, which was 46 more
than we had this time last year.
um
females and individual behavior flags.
They uh outpaced release in terms of
their increase.
[sighs]
Outpatient composite restoration, we had
about 36 felonies, seven misdemeanors.
Uh, wait list for beds. 266 on the
hospital weight list. 59 waiting for
maximum security hospital. 209 waiting
for nonmax
hospital.
The weight list
in 2024
was 262. Right now it's 238.
Males 287,
females
right around 489
getting all we just um and and I know in
budget miss um Randolph
um hopefully we're going to be able to
be able to target some of this. I I did
include chief artist on some of these
concerns. I'm still waiting to to hear
from Swifts.
It would it was my understanding that we
are now doing more of the cases than
they
than um trying to think of their
outsource first, but that we're now
doing more of the cases.
Armstrong, that's it. Thank you. got so
much on my so we need to we need to do a
followup.
» Dr. Dwire has been in touch with DPD
about this and well we've been going
back and forth with memos to them. They
were concerned that they're going to run
into a problem again like we did before,
but Dr. Dwire has assured them we're
fully staffed now. We've got all the
staff we need. We can handle the volume
that we were handling before. So
hopefully they'll they'll
» That was supposed to been temporary
anyway until we got staffed up. We've
been staffed up for a while now,
» Right?
» And we don't have anybody in Swifts
that's over 30 days.
» That's right.
» Okay.
» That's right.
» And Arm Armstrong is
» And I've shared that with Chief Artist
and he shared that with his team, Major
Howell, I believe it was.
» So, we're just waiting for the numbers
to pick back up.
» Yeah. Okay.
Um,
with regards to um,
is there anything else, Mr. Randolph,
that I missed? I understand that the
computer system
uh,
is up
and running that they bought us back
online. I'm talking about in terms of
honesty.
Are we back on
Mr. Reed, somebody I'd had a note here
for some reason.
» I'm not sure about Odyssey, but the but
if you're referring to the NIPA feed.
Um, we are having communication with
NIPA now. Dallas County implemented a
new server and now we're working with
NIPA in order to make sure that they
have the information they need in order
to send the NIPA feed service
information to the new server and we're
actually working on that as we speak.
» Okay.
» Okay. Thank you.
Update on elections operations, polling
equipment, polling. Is there anything
else? I'm sorry. with regards to jail
population.
Okay. Um Mr. Adams, update on elections
operations, polling equipment, polling
locations. I know we've got a court
order on today. I was going to pull it
because there there was some concern,
but anyway, you can speak to it and uh
personnel preparation for the upcoming
election,
etc.
» Yes. So, we've been very busy over the
last uh month or so since the last
commissioner's court meeting preparing
for the November election. Uh wanted to
mention a handful of things to the
court. One of them, we've begun
preventative maintenance. So, we have
ESNS and our staff is working right now
on preventative maintenance going
through testing all of the equipment. I
had mentioned previously I want to make
sure that this is the most thorough
testing of our equipment that we have
ever done. Uh we have just begun that.
So, at this point, we're only about 15%
through. When we're complete, I will
provide a report to commissioners to let
you know how that went. But we have
individuals on site, not just to do the
testing for mess that are assisting us,
but individuals on site that will be
fixing all of the issues that they may
find on those uh units uh as it comes
up. So, the anticipation is by the end
of this month, we will be done with
preventative maintenance. any issues
that we see arise can be fixed by ESNS
and then we're going to be ready for the
delivery of additional equipment. Uh we
are purch or renting an additional 1,500
units for this upcoming election
» And that will give us how many total? Uh
» So we have a to right now there's uh
4,740
plus 1500. So I'm going to do math real
quick here.
» That's okay. I got it. [laughter]
So that gives us uh uh 6,240.
» Got it.
» Will be how many we have. And that will
be more units than uh we've ever
deployed in a larger election. But I
think I'd mentioned previously when the
equipment was purchased earlier on back
in 2019, obviously the growth of the
county and there's been a higher demand.
So I think it makes sense not just to
have those additional units in case we
have you know uh issues with
malfunctioning machines but we have just
additional units out in the field that I
think is going to be important. I also
wanted to follow up and mention about uh
batteries. We had talked about that how
we were approaching the end of life of
batteries. We've done a complete test on
all of the equipment. uh of the 4,740
units, only 248 actually failed that
battery test. Uh so I feel comfortable
that either we'll be able to uh find
some replacements for those or uh we are
going to be talking about having maybe
additional batteries just available
generally at some of the locations. that
now that we have identified the ones
that the problems, we can make sure
those are pulled out of service and we
don't have issues with those uh during
the election.
In addition to preventative maintenance
testing, we've been working on updating
our pole worker training and the manual
for uh pole workers. Uh I'm not doing
this in a vacuum. I know we have a lot
of people that have a lot of
institutional knowledge on how that
manual and the presentations and our
classes should be formulated. So we are
preparing for this Saturday and then on
the 18th we're going to have some
demonstration classes. We've invited
individuals. We've informed the
political parties. We've informed SEAK
uh other organizations that may be
interested in sending individuals to
come sit through the demonstration of
the class and then afterwards we're
going to have a roundt discussion to get
their feedback. So we'll make final
determinations of what that class is
going to look like um at the end of the
month. But I think engaging individuals
and getting feedback is going to be very
important to make sure that we have the
best possible training program. In
addition to that uh training program, uh
we also looked at reducing the amount of
time the judges um judge judges classes
can take uh previously
at least five hours in some cases a
little bit more. Uh I went through one
of those classes as soon as I got here.
It was about five and a half hours.
I don't believe that a five and a
halfhour class is the proper way to
engage our workers. Uh we need to do our
best in order to streamline that
process. I think after a certain point
people are not paying attention. It
makes very very difficult to keep people
um at the the highest level of attention
in a five and a half hour class. So we
are reducing it to three and a half
hours. But at the same time we are going
to have what previously have been called
labs. We're going to kind of change the
name to name I'm familiar with which is
uh practice makes perfect where
individuals may come in if they've
decided they've went to the three and a
half hour class and they're a new judge
and they've decided you know I want a
little bit more training on the
tabulator I want a little more training
on provisional ballots we're going to
offer that they'll be able to come in
and they'll be able to do that
additional training uh if they so
choose. So even though we're reducing
the amount of time, there is going to be
options for them to come in and get
additional training if they so choose
» And there still be paid.
» Uh yes.
» Thank you.
» Then on
so training updates.
Another item that we are we've been
working on and we'll be implementing is
additional proofing for our ballots. uh
our central count team has put together
a 16point proofing procedure that we are
going to be implementing. It is not
going to be conducted only by our own
staff. We are going to be bringing in
other individuals uh beyond our staff to
help with proofing. We've reached out to
the political parties to provide
individuals that may be able to assist
us with proofing. Uh we've also reached
out to SEAK to provide that assistance.
uh and also uh Miss Foster Allen has uh
volunteered to offer some individuals to
help as well. Uh I've always felt that
the more proofing the better. So we are
going to have a very large number of
teams and this 16-step process that our
central count team has done an amazing
job putting together over the last month
and a half breaks out those pieces so
that as we're proofing the ballot, we
are looking at each individual piece. We
are not necessarily just looking at the
entire thing all at once. We want to
break it down individually.
» Well, I know you got a couple of things
with regards to I call it condens uh
condensing that ballot. But before I get
there, I I want to know um when you talk
about this proofing,
» How
are you just talking about going over
whatever it is that's before you?
Because what bothers bothers me as in
one one of my cities they should have
been voting for I think one person wound
up voting for two people did some coun
and I mean you know you know the story
so I'm just trying to figure out what
does proofing entail.
» It's a very good question that proofing
we've looked at this from a
comprehensive view. So this is going to
start all the way from the beginning
when we get information from entities.
That information is going to be proof to
make sure that the information that
we're initially using is correct.
In addition to that, we are going to be
we've already had conversations about
the contracts that we have with various
[snorts] entities. One of the things
that's been helpful that I've seen just
in my uh time here has been some of the
city secretaries are very much involved
with the proofing of the ballot and
making sure it's correct. We have some
city secretaries that come in to central
count, sit down with our central count
team and say, "Okay, show me the ballot.
I want to see it. I'm not doing the
email thing. I want to see this. I want
to look at it." Not all of them are like
that. And what we're we're going to try
to do is have those entities also send
individuals in to assist with proofing
because we need that level of
understanding in those communities. I
might not necessarily know something or
see something, but people from those
areas will. So, we're going to be
opening up to those entities the ability
to have people come in and be part of
the proofing specifically for their
issues. So, that that is done at the
beginning of that proofing process. The
beginning of the proofing process
involves that information from those
entities. It involves information
[clears throat] from the Secretary of
State. It involves information that we
had from the previous election and
district information. And then things
begin to play out through the proofing
process all the way through uh testing
the audio for all the different
languages.
» Let me just suggest um that you generate
to them that expectation because we get
we get the
push back that says hey you know this is
what should have occurred. Well, it's
already occurred now. And you guys you
guys basically signed off or not you,
but they did. And so I
I'd at least like to have a trail say we
invited you. You sent Jonathan Bazison,
you know, by blah blah blah. He signed
off.
» Okay.
» And that's what we're looking to
actually put in their contracts. Okay.
So that that is made very clear. And I
will also point out that's another issue
that arises where I want to make sure I
have the ballot right.
» We also want to have the sign off, but I
want to make sure the ballots right
because even if somebody is able to
find, oh, you know what, the elections
department did everything right, but
there was an issue and we have a paper
trail and we can see it was a city
secretary or whatever it happens to be.
My problem is, okay, that's a cover your
own.
» Okay. see why
» My problem is I still have to fix the I
have this problem now the ballot's not
correct what do I need to do and when we
have countywide voting it's not just if
I have a problem in a particular
community it's not I can just go to
those units it's going to affect every
unit across the entire county
» Exactly
» So that's the reason why we need to have
these additional proofing procedures and
that's why I'm glad that our central
county team is working very hard on this
» And so that the record will be clear
what you're basically speaking about is
is that because like you said it's
mobile voting and uh somebody from that
particular impacted uh
city may be voting in Barnard Dallas not
likely but could be
» Correct
» And so it affects everything and I agree
things
okay Um,
I did get the concern uh from
administration.
Um, did we ever make a final decision as
to
I'm looking at periods of time. I'm
looking to deploy a
a unit, a mobile,
a storage unit.
And the office saying that we don't need
your my staff dealt with your staff and
they said, "Hey, we don't need this year
around." So, I don't know what time
deployment. I don't know how many
elections you have.
if if you if you've done that kind of
modular that we can decide how many
we're going to deploy and we're going to
have to go from the south of Dallas
government center because I don't think
there's going to be any place to to go
at the at the at the Poke Street
location just based on the confinement.
» So, uh we're going to have to buy a
modular to talk about putting them in
that need to know how many are we
talking about? How many machines are we
talking about story? And it's my
understanding that you and I and do they
have to I think my staff sent me. Do
they have to be uh climate because they
have to be do they do they have to be a
climate controlled?
» Yes. So they would there would need to
be climate control. We would want to
have proper security which would include
cameras as well as the access badges so
that we know has entered and left those
facilities. uh in terms of you know
exactly where that would be. I know uh
we have been in communication with your
office of where that would be but for
the the November election which is my uh
immediate priority
» You know finding someplace that has
proper security
» With the cameras and has climate control
is something that would be a requirement
for us. I would be looking at in terms
of the number of units I would be
looking somewhere in the range of 40 to
50 units to place in um that secure
location if that was possible.
» Okay. 40 to 50.
» You gave me
back.
» Okay.
» Um Okay. 40 40 50. Um
and
I just need y'all to generate the uh
Um,
» What that looks like. Just go down. Just
what what does that look like? I thought
I saw a year for you.
» Oh, no. I can't tell. I can't see. But
anyway, um, yeah,
» But we we need to we need to lock that
down.
» Yes.
» And uh, they tell me it's it's going to
be kind of seasonal, but we need we need
to get ahead of that.
» Um,
what else? There was something else.
Okay. Is there anything else that
» I did want to follow up? I I know you
had contacted me about some concerns
with the post office.
» Yes.
» Uh so we have we have taken the steps to
communicate with the elections mail
coordinator for the USPS. Uh I can think
previously we'd been communicating with
some of the local postmasters. The uh
post office a number of years ago
created the position of election mail
coordinator. We are now in direct
communication with that individual. We
will we have already set up regular
meetings with the election mail
coordinator and their team so that
leading into this election. We're going
to start right now about every other
week or so we're going to be meeting
with them. As we get into the election
period, we are going to have a weekly
meeting that includes our staff, the
election mail coordinator, other
individuals in the post office, as well
as uh our ballot board judges who
oftentimes see some of these things so
that we're all on the same page. Any
issues that we see that arise are
immediately going to be mentioned at
those meetings with the election mail
coordinator for uh North Texas. And I I
believe that's going to help us
preemptively take care of some problems.
We've already mentioned to them some of
the issues that we've seen. Uh so I'm
hopeful that these regular meetings
leading up to the election that will
eventually become weekly uh will be able
to address any in real time any of those
issues that we see leading into the
election.
» Okay. Good. I know my I know my guys are
out there now working and they're
working on the weekends. So hopefully
you're getting everything you need.
with regards to the facility.
» Yes. Yes.
» Okay. And have we finished all the
installation?
Uh in ter No, still working.
» Okay.
» Still working.
» Okay. We are we going to hit those
targets, Mr. Bazan? We going to hit hit
those targets?
» I know that they've required a
supplemental PO that I think was either
just issued and they're working to
complete the the work. Commissioner, I
think you've been updated. I'll get a
current update and send that to you.
Okay.
Okay. Thank you. Any anything else, Mr.
Adam? Mr. Curt,
» That's all I have for right now.
» Okay.
» I did ask judge to add number 36 to the
separate polls, separate vote. I believe
Mr. Adams has some name additional names
he needs to add to the list. So, we'll
do that court orders.
» Okay. I thought also the one we got to
read the stuff that uh 36 that dealt
with the hours.
» Yeah.
» For early vote. I I'll I'll pull that
and read that what he wants in there.
» But you just going to pull it and you
going to add it add it in.
» Add those hours in and put it out for
vote.
» Okay. Well, and and I agree with from
what my staff tells me, I agree with
that. My my concern is
um
and in that kind of election and you
talking about some extended hours unlike
some other folks who feel some
compression, you know, we
I I really believe that
that we're we're going to see a real
turnout and I just I don't want to burn
my judges out. U we we we uh
I don't think we understand sometimes,
you know, some of those judges sitting
there the age the average age of the
judges, you know, they're around my age
and they they don't want to sit there
all day. So, I'm I'm trying to make sure
that those extended hours They're
getting paid. They're fine. It's Some of
them
» They ain't that old
[laughter]
[snorts]
» As long as they don't as long as long as
they don't look like that at all. Okay.
Anyway,
» So I I I will say that uh you know,
while while I support the extension uh
because I do believe it is going to be
an incredibly high turnout election and
we need to be prepared. Uh we are going
to be looking at whatever it is that we
can do to help support those workers.
» Um you if that means additional people
out there, we're going to be looking at
some different options because I want
them to know that we support them and we
want to be there to help them make this
happen.
» Okay. And last thing I'm going to say,
Mr. point is that [clears throat] I saw
him he he he just got here. We've done
it before draw from the pool of uh
county employees.
We need to really plan that well because
he winds up at the at the end and
everybody is h hair on fire and they're
running and that it impacts operations.
We just we just got to plan it better.
» Yeah. And I I agree 100%. I know I
usually get the email the week of and so
I'm going to work with Mr. Adams and and
Mr. Herd and make sure we get that out
early. We'll get a number of folks
signed up and particularly new folks
who've never done it before so they can
get through the training. So we'll do
that much earlier this year.
» Yeah, they just can't wait till the last
minute. I saw that I'm like what?
Luckily, we got them. But still,
luckily, we were able to get enough
people. But we were
» But [clears throat] I agreed we needed
» Operationally though, we need to we need
we need to we need to plan for it. Okay.
Need to see a plan. Okay. Anything else,
Mr. Adam? Okay.
» Don't have anything else.
» Thank you
» Very much.
» Thank you. Um,
as I said, I've already spoken to the
sheriff department's overtime staff
attention that uh we're at. uh thank um
CFO and all
the team
budget auditors everyone that that's
moving forward.
Um
I did uh I see Miss Ranger is here. I
did pull I did see uh
your plan going forward. Um,
and I I just haven't had a chance to
analyze it well. So, I'm because I I
just got it came in at 8:05. I want
y'all to know I don't work from a
laptop. I come to the office and work
and when I looked up and saw that 8:05
pop up, I'm like, "Okay, I I need a
little bit more time." I just So, I'm
I'm gonna pass on on that. And and and
will uh
clerk's office. Take take the word
merger off that that presentation in the
future. It's not a merger. Take that
off, please. I've talked about the take
just of the peace uh uh code. Uh I'll
deal with that some other time. I'll
defer to the treasur's office judge if
it's okay.
» Okay. Miss Miss Madano, please.
Good morning, Judge Commissioners. Holly
Madrono, County Treasurer. Joining me
today is uh Chief Deputy Stephanie
Granberry and our executive assistant,
Star Maddox, I believe. Oh, good. Um,
Nationwide's uh retirement specialist
Will Angus. And I believe we have our
our guest of honor. We have uh Miss
Chantel Herring, a Dallas County
employee, and her daughter Shay. Come
on, step up. Please
» Come along.
» Please join us. Michelle Keys.
She's a proud graduate of 2026
and she's being awarded the $2500
scholarship presented by Nationwide and
Niko
uh for her winning essay in the
nationwide um competition.
This is just outstanding uh for her
achievement but also for Dallas County.
This is the third scholarship the
nationwide Niko has presented to Dallas
County to one of our students in Dallas
County. And guess what? All three of
them are in commissioner [laughter]
prices district. What are you doing?
» All we do is win.
[laughter]
» Well, we need more money for more
scholarships.
» Okay. [laughter]
But you know what? um what Star had uh
suggested to Nationwide is to uh promote
the scholarship even earlier because as
our graduates graduate in May, it's kind
of late to kind of get them motivated to
do another essay. So now they're
promoting it around March and we are
trying to get to all the departments. Um
it's on the employee bulletin so we can
have more and more participation. the
more participation hopefully the more
winners that we have. So, we want to
congratulate um uh
just it's just exciting. I'm going to
bring up Will uh to talk a little bit
about the scholarship and then we're
going to talk we're going to have our um
our winner to come up to talk a little
bit about herself. And I want to say in
addition to the $2,500 scholarship,
she's obtained over $750,000
of scholarship.
[applause]
Miss Herring, you have done a wonderful
job uh with your daughter, your family,
and I'm going to bring Will up just to
talk a little bit about uh the
scholarship and then we will bring our
guest of honor. Thank you.
» Thank you. All right. Good morning
everybody.
» Morning.
» Great to see you and and um we're really
excited. uh Niko has done a great job in
providing this scholarship and this
essay is specifically for uh financial
we rephrase the the question every year
but it is it does take some
thoughtprovoking and and um some uh
research and and things like this. This
is not something that is just written
down on their own. So um it's great that
that the county has had uh three winners
here. Um I think it shows that uh we are
promoting it and we are going to try to
get it out a little bit earlier. So um
people can work on it but uh Nationwide
I haven't worked with a company before
that does the philanthropy that they do
and and I'm proud to work for
Nationwide. I can say that with without
any trepidation at all. So um love
working with the county. Again we had a
great um outing on Friday. We had uh two
seminars for the 457. Um Commissioner
Daniel was there, Commissioner Price uh
kicked off both events. And so um just a
a great turnout and again the showing
that the county is
really committed to making sure that
their employees are retiring comfortably
and um in a place that they can
financially be able to handle it. So,
um, again, I'm going to pass it along
here to our winner here. Um, go ahead,
Miss Keys.
» My name is Shia Keys. Um, I am so
grateful and thankful for this
scholarship.
Um, I am originally class of 2027. I
graduated early with a 4.0 GPA and I'm
going to
[applause]
and I'm um committed to Stson
University. I'm going to be majoring in
biochemistry with the aspirations of
being a pediatric psychiatrist. And as
the theme of this meeting, giving back
to the community, that's exactly what I
want to do and give back to my the
generations after me. And I'm so
thankful and grateful nationwide and the
commissioner's court. Thank you.
» [applause]
[applause]
» Mama, you stopped crying long enough she
can speak.
» Hi, my name is Gentle Herring. I am a
county clerk in the civil division. I
process eviction appeals from the
Justice of the Peace Court. I've been
here for six years, almost seven years,
and I'm just so thankful and so
appreciative of the opportunity. I
didn't even know that we offer those
scholarships. So, when I seen it, I
emailed her right away was like, "Hey,
get on it." and she did it and I'm just
so excited for her because you know in
this economy every penny counts. Um so
it's going to go for her and
everything's paid for. So I'm just so
thankful that she's able to go ahead to
go to school on a full ride and
alleviate my pockets a little bit.
» And this is little sister Bronty. This
is her little sister. She's 8 years old.
Say something.
» Hi, my name is Bronty Dixon. Bronty J
Dixon to be exact. And I and I am going
to third grade and I and I hope that I
have a great third grade year. And I
hope I do a great job in school.
» [applause]
» Okay, y'all want to come on and bring
the money?
» [laughter]
» As they're posing up there. I just want
to remind everyone that Dallas County is
a flagship county uh for nationwide. Uh
we continue to be recognized
um uh at Nico. Um it is they always want
to know what we're doing, why we're so
successful, why we have such uh such
large participation. Um and it's because
of some of these things that we're
doing. But thank everyone the court um
and all the participants uh for
continuing to um making sure that you
know all their contributions are in that
they are increasing contributions and
whatever they can roll over from other
jobs other um companies please see will
thank you to join us
» And and while while Miss Madano and her
staff is coming they can say if they
want to is an advocate, a drum major uh
for Dallas County and we we rank high
and nationwide across the nation.
» We know number one and it's right.
» Congratulations. [applause]
Okay. I did Dallas. Okay.
» Congratulations.
» Okay. Okay.
» You got a something to present to you.
» Yeah.
» And congratulations to you.
» Have a good third grade.
» Congratulations.
» Good year.
» Thanks for coming.
» She just said third. She just won third
grade.
» Yeah. Have a good third grade.
raise up a child in the anonymity. Okay.
Um, judge, I guess that pretty much, you
know, the consent agenda. We we've
» Yes.
» Commissioner Price, did you move?
» I moved.
» Second.
» All those in favor say I.
» I.
» I. Motion carries un
pull that mic closer to you.
» I'm sorry. Next, we have a number of
bids.
Um, hang on. Let me look to make sure.
» I move bid one to 10
» Pulling for discussion
uh number one by Commissioner Price and
pulling bid number 10 for two weeks by
staff.
» Okay. No.
» Yeah. The the 10 is I have to recuse
myself, I think.
» Oh, the 10. Okay. Is that recuse?
» Yeah, that's me just pulling it for a
separate vote.
» For a record,
» But it's a separate separate vote. Well,
» You put here for by step by two weeks.
» Well, okay.
» Well, it pulled because a conflict of
interest by Commissioner Summer. There
we go.
» Yeah. Yeah. uh on one I had talked this
morning at le but I had a myriad of
concerns with regards to that uh that
restoration preservation co-iles service
uh this this was technology not to
exceed $3 million
and u Mr. Uh
brash, you need to put in the record uh
all of my I can go through all of my
concerns, but you know what they are.
Now, so uh with regards to the profile,
the documented independent price
validation and the material scope uh
that we we're using a u I guess what do
y'all call a state contract or
something? Yes, sir. And I I looked up
and saw uh
seven $7 million worth of things that
are on this dag gum contract in this
Dallas County listing versus Texas MAS
pricing. And uh you are need to put in
the record that the utilization
uh for this $3 million
is somehow uh just a using of about 90%
of this contract and uh so I just need
you to I need you to put that in the
record because I my staff has
» Yes, sir. The contract for consideration
is using the Texas controllers Texas MOS
pricing which is leveraging the the
pricing across the state of Texas in
addition to uh the contract pricing
that's available through text mass uh
co-ile gave us additional discounts to
Dallas County. So it in an overlay of
discounts that are even further deeper
than what state of Texas contract is.
So, if you were looking at us purchasing
the five items that we primarily use on
this contract, it would be $7 million.
It was list price. We we get it. We were
going to get those for 2.9 million. So,
it's a significant savings over over the
contract pricing for the state of Texas.
Uh the items that you mentioned,
Commissioner Price, we we've listed all
the items that are available from the
state of Texas, which are thousands of
items that are used by the state of
Texas. We're using primarily five items
that represent 90% of what we use for
Dallas County. So, the listing that is
on page um I believe it's page um 73
shows exactly what Dallas County is
using, which makes up the $ 2.99 million
and it's five um line items that have
significant discounts over the state of
Texas contract. Uh we went through the
competitive process in 2021, selected
COILE, and over the last five years,
we've used CFile to do these services.
They have some proprietary um processes
that are used to do their their work
with Dallas County. So we we leveraged
the discounts from state of Texas and
felt this in the best interest of Dallas
County and I believe Mr. Warren's on if
you have any questions specifically
about the the usage of the contract
» But everything is covered at the end of
the day Mr. Fro most important part is
with all these discounts and the $3
million everything that is has
historical needs of preservation will be
taken care of.
» Yes ma'am as you know this is a very
significant task to restore these
documents. I know and and honorable
warren has done a great job in
preserving all the records.
» Yes, ma'am. So I believe that was the
questions commissioner and another
question you had or the that you brought
to my attention is that the original
contract date was expired. The contract
that's listed on the controllers date
which is included in our contract goes
through the term of our contract today.
So it's going to match exactly the terms
that are on there today. So it did
originally was expiring two years prior
but was renewed prior to this
discussion.
» Okay. those. Okay. Those are questions
that I had with regards to that. Um
the uh
Okay. And with regards to uh 10,
» Let me leave the room if you're going to
talk about that. Okay. Okay.
» All right. Good.
» Let the record reflect that Commissioner
Summer is walking out of the horseshoe.
» Okay.
» Okay. Commissioner,
» So I I move
» Yeah. I mean, no, it's it's just
» It's just 10 was my my my concern here.
Just like that profile contract, you
know, I just find it interesting. We
just purchased $5.3
million
worth of service from this company AWS
and then all of a sudden come back and
it looks like uh we're going to spend
$300,000.
But then the same thing, the same kind
of regiment that Frost just went
through, you know, is is supposed to
cost us a a million nine and they gonna
discount it to, you know, a million6 and
it's going to cost us 300,000. Why the
hell didn't they do that? Why didn't we
do all of this in the prior contract? If
it's 300,000
and and the difference Dallas, why
didn't just put the 300,000 to five
million?
» Yes sir. So with AWS in order to get the
support that's in front of you today we
have to first purchase the cloud
service. Uh that is the commitment that
we had to make to AWS before they would
discuss the support the discount support
that is in front of you today. That's
the primary reason why they were
separated
» Also because this has a different item
with capacity if I understood that
correctly from the different because it
says
» Um with scale capacity ink. So is that's
additional
» Not additional capacity from a storage
perspective but additional capacity from
a deploying and using the product. So
what we are buying
if if the item is approved, what we are
buying today is a help to move.
» They're just moving it over.
» Okay.
» Right. My point but my point was we
spent $5.3 million.
I I if you're going to play the game
with, you know, we're going to discount
the services down to, you know,
$300,000.
Hell, just throw throw the $300,000 in
and say, "Hey, it's a package deal.
Is there any opportunity, you know, to
do that? I mean, since they discounting
a million $600,000,
$300,000 shouldn't mean that much. I
just, you know, it's just it's it's
gamesmanship to me. I, you know, I just
I'm having a real difficult time. And
when staff when my staff gets to, you
know, drilling through this and then we
go back and we see, you know, so
what are we not in a position to say,
hey, throw in the 300,000?
» Yeah, go ahead and answer that. But
» Yeah, so commissioner, we likely did. I
wasn't involved in those discussions,
but what I can tell you is from AWS's
perspective, they would not entertain
this discussion until we first committed
to buying the service.
» But yeah, but that was my my staff went
back and pulled the paper that that was
March.
» Yes. And then the negot the back and
forth between Dallas County and AWS on
the discounts and what that looks like,
what the support structure looks like uh
took some time to get it in front of the
commissioner's court once the original
purchase was executed.
» Yeah. Okay. You know, I you know, you
know, I love the fact that they're doing
us such a bless doing us such a a good
big favor. But yeah, we just bought five
point. We just gave them all our cloud
service. Teran be 300,000 to transfer it
over and but they're going to save us a
million six. Okay.
» But it had to be a step one, step two.
That's what you're saying.
» Yes. Okay.
» Yes, ma'am. That's correct.
» Yeah. Okay. Co-ile could say the same
thing uh with, you know, with, you know,
their their discount. They could have
said, well, but you know, buy the
service and then we'll talk to you about
the discount. Just so happened, you
know, we already had. Anyway, call the
question.
» Question. Judge.
» All those in favor signify by saying I.
I.
» Any opposed? All right, that motion
carries unanimously
» With Commissioner Summerman out of the
out of the summer out of the room. So
» By unanimously I mean four to zero.
» Who second? Uh who second? I I did.
Commissioner Price moved. I second. Yes.
» Uh Commissioner Summer out of the
» All right. At this time, we're gonna
take a we're gonna take a break to go to
close session at the request of our
county administrator.
» Um,
» Do you know what time we're going to go
back?
» Um, I just need to go over a couple of
items. So, 1:00 we can get back. So, um,
» Let's make it 10:5, right?
» Because it's 12:05 now.
» I have to leave this afternoon, go speak
at a conference. I don't want to miss
the couple of items I need to address
with the court. So, If you give me this
one hour, we'll go through the couple
items and we come back. Gotcha.
» Okay.
» All right.
» Is it an executive session or is from
» It's an executive session.
» Executive session. So, um we will come
back at 10:05 and resume court. Uh we
will now go to executive session. I
don't know that we'll get through
everything on that executive session in
an hour, but it's not
» But um we'll get through as much as we
can. So uh the court will now go uh you
know and say after a five minute
restroom break as soon as the people get
there we'll we will will go to executive
session to consider matters under
chapter 551 of the government code as
previously posted any action as a result
of that executive session will take
place at a subsequent open session
and as I said we are not done with court
we will continue with court after that
uh partial or full executive session.
» Oh yeah.
» Um
» No that's fine. Um
Hey.
» Okay.
» I don't have an answer.
test. Okay.
» Yeah, we finished being
» Am I ready?
» Oh, okay. Okay. I misunderstood what you
said.
» All right. Uh, we apologize. We did come
back a little late. We managed to finish
close session. Um, and Daryl has pointed
out that I we had a speaker on an item,
Mr. Dylan Thrasher,
» But the way it was written on our sheets
didn't indicate that Dylan was speaking
about that item. So, Dylan, I apologize
that you had to wait to speak on the
item, but in our we've already read the
rules of the quorum, I think. So, please
come forward and and uh you know, you've
got three minutes and when you get when
you see the clock go to zero, just
finish your thought. I apologize again.
» Not a problem. [clears throat]
» Good morning, commissioners. Uh my name
is Dylan Thrasher. I work in uh the
eviction courts uh for landlords. Today
I am [clears throat] going to be handing
the court clerk a written summary of
critical findings uh on the county's
grant to the Dallas Eviction Advocacy
Center. Um every finding has um is is
created from the own public records um
that DEAC shares as well as uh internal
county documents. Um
the find findings are that uh the DAC
program has no meaningful elig
eligibility controls. Um the court the
court records do not currently um record
the attorney representation for
defendants in in Odyssey. Well, there's
only one judge uh that is that is
reporting these. Therefore, there's no
auditability of of the DEAC at all. even
if we wanted to we we couldn't at this
current time. Um
the findings also are that the
cost-saving study which the which was
commissioned um for this for the program
is absolutely um it's it's the data is
is un auditable and unverifiable as
well. So there is so the Perryman group
um I I reached out to them to ask for
their methodologies and data to to
validate any of their $118 million
claim. They they did not they they
refused to provide any data and just um
refused to comment at all. Um
the and then the the DEAC receive uh
provided a recidivism study um about
their effectiveness
um so far and unfortunately
um their recidivism study was flawed
flawed materially. they instead of
looking forward in their data, they
looked backward and assessed that
assessed if the pre the person's
previous
um presence in eviction court somehow
correlated with their their them
representing them at the time. It's uh
so it's it's absolutely it's it's a
reverse recidivism study. So it it
provides no value. Um
Mark Milton, which is the uh chair,
which is the chair of the board,
um keeps DEASU's books uh at his home.
He's a major donor and he is and he he's
essentially um is unable to be removed
from that board because of how many
seats him and his family take.
Um the [clears throat] and whenever I've
critic whenever I've uh brought
criticism up up to this point uh with to
the health and human services division
um instead of addressing the compliance
concerns that I had, he instead chose to
attack attack my uh my reputation to the
uh to that health and human services
director. Thank you.
» Thank you, sir. All right. Um,
I believe we've got we're we're now back
to where we were
» And where we were in our agenda is the
RFPs.
» So, those RFPs are one through five.
[clears throat]
» Any desire to pull those or can I get a
motion on the RFPs?
» Second.
» All right. Any discussion on these RFPs?
» Hold on.
» One to five. I'd like to
» Judge. I think we have a motion over
here.
» We
We do. We have a motion.
» Are we out of out of step? I finish up
with this one and then
» Oh, okay. So, you yours isn't on the
RFPs?
» No.
» On something else on Okay. So, um on the
RFPs, you want to look at those. There's
not.
» Okay.
» Um Okay. Um uh no. So all those in favor
uh signify by saying
» I there's there's a speaker for the last
one.
» That was for bids, not RFPs.
» Okay. Mr. Arnold Ku.
» Well,
he was only here in case we needed him.
He was he was representing the Okay. Got
it.
» Yes, ma'am.
» Yeah. Only if there were any questions.
» And no questions then.
» No questions. I just want to say I'm
glad to see the weatherization and
» Approve. Good. All those in favor
signify by saying I.
» I.
» Any opposed?
» Motion carries unanimously.
» No, I just had a quick question. I would
would ask for a reconsideration of
budget item number one. Uh because I've
received additional information.
» Okay.
» Go through that
» And put it on the next agenda. Second.
Well, we'd have to consider it now. And
I second the motion to reconsider.
» Well, let me see what budget item. Okay.
This is court order number one.
» Yes.
» Quarter number one under budget.
» Okay. So, not the TR, but the budget
itself.
» No, I'm sorry. That was should have been
the TR.
» Which one do you you want to you want to
recon order number two?
» Sorry about
» Not one.
» Yep. It's two.
» I'm sorry. Number two.
» Okay. That matches my notes.
» Okay. Yeah. A as a person who voted in
the affirmative, you can seek a
reconsideration. You'll need a second.
So you
» Okay. So now that's back up for a
discussion. Then the number two if there
is a discussion or a vote or whatever
any
» Um what do we want to anybody have any
[clears throat] discussion?
» I I don't have any.
» I don't have any either. Well, you know,
the thing is is that uh you know, you
can do a substitute if if we're going to
if we're going to do this gamesmanship.
Uh I [snorts] mean, I'll provide for a
substitute motion. What do you mean a
consider reconsideration?
» Um
» I don't think she's engaged in
gamesmanship.
» Well, the problem is the problem is is
that we I mean there's I mean I don't
know what new information we've been
dealing with this for the last,
» You know, forever.
or months.
» But the but my questions dealt with the
understandability of the wording.
» De with what?
» Wording.
» Oh, okay. Uh is that a question for the
lawyers or you feel like you've got it
now?
» Uh no, I would like to I'd like to go
through it a little bit. We don't have
to do it
» The wording.
» Oh, what word? Help help me the word.
What's the wording? What's the
difference in the wording?
» Understandability of the wording.
when I went back and reread
» Here. Let me read let me read it again
» Because somebody wrote Okay, so here is
the wording and it and it is confusing
but it's required by law. Um, so
what would if if you voted for this TR
what would appear on the ballot is this
question to vote yay or nay for the
voters approving the advalorum tax rate
of up to
» Two
» Of up to uh 0.25900 259000
per 100 valuation in County of Dallas
for the current year. A rate that is
0.0285
higher than per 100 valuation than the
voter approval tax rate of county of
Dallas for the purpose of funding
programs
that measurably reduce. Oh, there are a
bunch of typos in here. That's part of
the problem. Um, we probably
Does anyone have what what was actually
sent on this? Because there are quite a
few tabos
uh in what was presented.
Yeah. Um,
I think I read some of this mess a few
days ago and fixed those typos so I can
try my best to remember um what that
was, but like the word the goes in front
of county. Um, and there's no two after
the word that before measurably.
I'll
try my best here. Approving the
advalorum. Could somebody go ahead and
pull up though the actual
» Judge? I have it pulled up. If you want
if you want us to read it.
» Yes, please.
» Yes. But hang on a second.
» Well, while I'm doing all the reading at
the end of the day, then you're going to
have to do put the calculations
out because this this is raising of the
tax. I want to know how much it is. I
know there was a million and and a half.
So, I mean, be prepared to put all of
this. If you're going to put it in the
record, put it in. Right. and how much
more each
» Resident in Dallas County will have to
pay additional taxes because this is
raising taxes.
» Language or no language. This means
we're raising taxes
» And it's not the three cents. It's more
than six.
» Super duper.
» Okay.
All right, guys. Let me
start over. Please bear with me. Um, so
what would be on the
uh the ballot is the following uh
question.
approving the advalorum tax rate of up
to
0.025
900 0
per 100 valuation
in the county of Dallas for the current
year a rate that is up to
0.0285 0285
higher per 100 valuation than the voter
approved tax rate for the county of
Dallas for the purpose of funding
programs that measurably reduce
homelessness and resolve encampments to
improve neighborhood vibrancy, support
people to achieve self-sufficiency
and increase access to mental health
treatment and stable housing.
Let me see. There's something else
stable
» For Dallas County Poppers.
» Yeah.
» And improve Dallas County safety
services.
» Yeah. Yeah. And the other word is an
improve Dallas County public safety
services. And then after that
» You have last year the analorum tax rate
in Dallas County was 0.2155 2155
per
100 valuation. That should be the end of
it.
» Yeah. And so if I can summarize, and
somebody correct me if I get this wrong,
it if we vote yes to reconsider this,
Dr. Daniel,
» Then we would have a week from today um
a chance to vote on this. This is the
vote to post it. In other words, we're
putting it out there to the public.
» Let Yeah. The decision as to whether we
actually do the tax or not. Uh that is
to say, vote to allow the tax to be
considered by the voters. We're not
raising the tax. We're asking the voters
to do so. Um, so this would just put on
notice to the public that this is coming
and it's coming a week from today and
would you like to be heard and come on
down and talk to you and us and you know
do the democracy thing um and
uh you know and then we would consider
whether we actually do that tax
um that put that tax for the voters to
decide not us but for the voters to
decide one week from now. And I know
that's confusing especially with the
language that we have. Dear God, I know
it's confusing,
» But it's nothing confusing about again
what's the appropriation
should that go forward. Okay,
» That there's a million and a uh
what what's what's the percentage of
raising the taxes given that? Number
one. And number two, you know, like I
said, you know, might want to do a
substitute because my contention has
been all along
» Whether we're even going to reconsider.
» Do what?
» This isn't a vote on anything other than
whether we rec
» I got it.
» Okay.
» But I want to know I want every I want
all eyes open as to what we're
reconsidering.
and we're reconsidering the possibility
as to whether or not you move that
forward or we do an amendment to move
that child care and public safety
forward. So, so just so everyone
understands and if I get this wrong, DA,
make sure to somebody interject. There
are deadlines involved in a TR.
Um, one of those deadlines is that seven
days for a for a continuous period,
seven days before a vote on a TR,
the language that will be on the ballot
and the statutory notice to the voters
must be continuously on our website and
must be post for seven days. So, in
other words, if we're going to hear this
on the 11th, if we're going to post it
and have the chance to vote it up or
down or do whatever on the 11th, it
whatever we come up with, let's say we
come up with it at 2:30, then we're
going to the fastest we can vote on it
next Tuesday is 2:30 because or whenever
they get it posted, then next week, just
because something was posted doesn't
mean it will actually pass next week.
There'll be a vote next week on whether
it passes. If it if at any point we
either don't post it today or we don't
vote for it next Tuesday, it's dead. If
it's not dead from one of those two
procedural hurdles, it goes before the
voters on November the 5th for them to
decide whether they want this or not.
» But my point is, you know, you you know,
it's interesting when you want to use
transparency. Should it go forward in
whatever version whether it's
homeless, public safety, and or child
care splitting a million and a half.
What is the cost associated with raising
that tax?
Because that's what it's I I get it,
judge, but you know, y'all always want
to talk about transparency. Should since
it we leave it out there for a week,
let's talk about what does it what is
the probability of cost associated with
that?
» Agree. I want to know how much the
average taxpayer will have to pay if
this goes into the ballot because that
should be there too. I mean when we go
if this is put in the ballot the five of
us are going to be asked questions. How
much does that means for me Garcia that
at the end of the year? How much more
taxes I'm going to pay? Because that's
what is going to be in the battle. It's
going to be you like you want either
child care of homelessness, you're going
to pay more.
» And and
» How much more per I agree we should do
that. And are you asking the average
homeowner, right?
» Is that what you're asking? Yeah.
Because because taxpayers include a
whole bunch of
» Well because in the you know in some in
the pollings that we look at everybody
wants it but at the time that they ask
them how much are you willing to pay
most of them say I'm not willing to pay
anything. And that's when my
constituents ask me Dr. Garcia how much
is going to cost me? It's not going to
be a slice of pizza or a cup of coffee.
It's going to be like $200 or $300 more
a year. I'm calculating.
Dr. Watkins, I will listen to your
number.
» Well, what I reference is the taxpayer
impact statement that's u calculated
through the TNT and it uses the median
homestead taxable value. Um, and then it
compares 2025 to 2026 proposed rate and
it would go in the paper with the
notice. So total tax rate for 215500
which was 2025 adopted tax rate. Median
homestead taxable value on a $247,900
home. The tax on that u median homestead
is 5 was 53422.
Um the proposed rate of.259650.
» Well that's not the proposed rate. It's
lower than that. But that's close
enough. weird.
» No, no, there ain't a $247, but she's
doing average though.
» Yeah.
» No, no, no. What I'm saying is the rate
that we read is is a lower number than
the one you just said, but go ahead and
use whatever number you want to to
answer your question.
» So, the proposed rate was a three and a
half cent increase over the
» Now it's at 2.85 cents.
» Okay. So, then that'll need to be
recalculated by the auditor because he
did it at three and a half cents.
» Okay. Did you have that information,
Commissioner Daniels?
» I'm sorry.
» Did you have that information? Was this
the information you're looking for?
» I think Can I talk with you after the
meeting?
» I believe
» So, the question for this particular
vote is not how much money, what we
should vote for, anything. It's whether
or not we want to reconsider it. So, is
everybody
» But judge, but all the information,
I hear you. But even on the motion to
reconsider, you know, the thing is it
just I mean because what she said is
some new new information, you know, had
come in did get all of the information
and the information whether it's 2.85
or three and a half which the auditor
has already calculated on that on that
phantom $247,000
average house
» Because there's none of that price. It's
24
» The exemptions. It's still 200. You
can't get to $247,000.
» So, let's let's go ahead and take a vote
on the motion to reconsider and then we
can discuss all the other stuff because
if the motion to reconsider fails,
there's nothing else to discuss. And I
think we're what we're discussing now is
the merits of whether or not we should
raise taxes, not the procedural matter
of whether or not we're going to
reconsider. So,
» But but but on the prevailing, if you
got a prevailing, come on, judge. I
mean, then you we don't we don't have to
play this.
» But we have to vote on if we don't vote
on it, we can't get to all the things
you want to talk about. All those in fa
So, I'm going to call that question. All
those in favor of her request to
reconsider,
» Vote I and all those opposed, vote no.
So, this is an I is to allow
reconsideration.
» I
» Okay. No.
» No.
» Okay. I'll vote in the affirmative for
reconsideration.
» No
» So So that passes three to two.
» Okay. So
» Before us is what we talked about
earlier, right? Oh, no. It's not.
Nothing is before us.
» Um we need to to um what I read into the
record. I hate to do it, but can I have
your computer? We'll do this all over
again.
» Um
» In anytime, Mr. Hicks, can you come up
with that number real quick?
» Yeah,
» It would be I believe it would be and
correct me if I've got this wrong,
Commissioner Price. Okay. I believe what
the number we're looking for is 247,000
» Times the uh proposed rate of
» Why don't we put it at 350
» Because I think
» Because we're trying to use the numbers.
» Yeah, the median.
» But all this is wrong anyway. What we
have in front of us has been wrong. I
mean, it has all the wrong numbers. Here
he says 0.85
and the judge read into the record to
eight or something like that.
» We we shrunk some of the numbers because
» Who shrunk them and at when did they
shrunk them?
» I mean I'm looking at a paper and I'm
hearing something else. I mean can
someone tell me what's the new
information because this obviously
» What you all passed this morning is
wrong.
» Yeah. Now
» It doesn't even have the average value.
What what failed this morning are are
the correct numbers. Two of the things
that Daryl had in the Hold on. What
failed this morning are the correct
numbers.
What we're passing right now in the
reconsideration are the right numbers or
the new numbers.
» The same numbers. Same numbers. So, let
me read it again for purposes of so we
know what um
» Is before us. Yeah, we're voting.
» Wait, before you read that, Mr. Hicks,
could I get you start working on this
for me? uh 247 times the uh 28 per 100
vial ev valuation and also her request
of 350. Is that what you wanted?
» Yeah, 350. And
» In other words, what would be the what
would be the tax on that?
» And and you know what's interesting to
me, you know, everybody wants to talk
about homeowners. We know that if this
is calculated, this does not fall
strictly just on homeowners,
» Right? This falls on apartment renters
because they're gonna do pass through.
» So,
» Commercial real estate.
» Okay. So,
» Yeah, Mr. I see Mr. Mr. Mr. Hicks.
» Yeah, it's not a straightforward
calculation that we can, you know, just
come up with a
simple, you know, mathematical um this
takes some time. So you can you guys can
give us the the exact numbers that you
want and then we can
» Bring that back with
» And and I have to say and thank you Mr.
Auditor because I know you're right, Mr.
Hicks. This is not something that you
can put in the computer and it comes out
right away. But what I am really
bothered by is the fact that we have
different information right now and now
that there's a reconsideration is new
information with new numbers that really
bother
» The same numbers as this morning. Um,
it's not what you read and it's not what
I have here, judge.
» It is what I read this morning. It's the
same numbers. It's just we're the typos
were in the thing this morning. Like the
like instead of
» That's the way we make decisions of
considerable
» Typos. So,
» Exactly. Of considerable to our
residents and taxpayers. That's the way
we look. Very good.
» Okay.
» Can we can we get a clean copy of this?
And I know that it'll take a minute to
do. You want you want to take a five
minute break and we'll get a clean copy.
» I think
» That would probably be a worthwhile
thing.
» Updated numbers because this goes into
Mr. Ames TNT calculation. The numbers
that were calculated was the 0.259650
that's listed there. So if we need to
change that, we need to get all of that
to him so he can upload it into his
system.
» And we will. But she's asking for a
piece of paper and let's make five or
six of those or a bunch of them that
have the actual things that they're
going to be voting on. Not all of Mr.
Ames's numbers and all the
recalculations and how much it cost a
house. You can tell us anything you want
to tell us, even if it's a higher number
and wrong about that. She just wants to
see what am I actually voting on? What's
going to be in front of the voters for
them to decide if this goes forward?
» And right with the right calculations
and the exact amount of money that I'm
going to ask them to vote on. I think
that's just fair and square
» And the same thing I asked.
» Okay, let's take a five or 10 minute
break and let go to a computer and
somebody get this right. So she all of
us can
» Why don't we move forward with the rest
of the agenda while those calculations
are
» That's a good idea.
» That is a good idea. Yeah, that's a
great idea. I agree.
» Not taking a break right now.
» It's not possible. We may have to
reconsider in a longer time frame.
» Well,
correct, Commissioner Daniel.
» But the calculator is saying that's not
possible.
» Right.
» But he wants the right number.
» Then he doesn't get
» That was not right.
» It's
Hey, hey, we I told you when we left out
of here the house.
» Tim,
sorry, Mr. Hicks, if if we had have left
the taxes uh at the higher number and
not moved out the things that we found
that were savings and redundant, what
would that have been at whatever the
number was that ends in 650 on the
average homeowner?
» Won't be that much number on the the
average homeowner, but in total was
about 150.4 for a million dollars
» That it would raise
» Additional revenue.
» Okay, that was one question. But another
question was what is the average
homeowner would they pay? So since it
takes a while to figure that out, we
know the number is a little lower than
whatever you're about to tell us. What
is the number that for the average
homeowner?
» Uh that number I need to calculate.
» Oh, you never Okay. Okay. I'm sorry.
» So, but you did say 164 million.
» Yeah.
» 50.4. 4.
» Okay. 150 million
» Additional [clears throat] revenue at
the uh 0.259650.
» Okay.
» That that's what that potentially would
um bring in an additional.
» So that's the only number you have then.
» That's the only number.
» Okay. I misunderstood. I thought you had
some number about 249,000
value after something. Okay. So y'all
have all the numbers that he's got then.
Um,
» So we voted on the reconsideration
and we're gonna come back to that
um so that they can write
um
down what what
that is and everybody can see it as you
read into the record.
» Are you able to do that or do I need to
go do that?
Apologies, Jez. We didn't hear the
request. Can you say it one more time?
» Dr. Daniel, and I think it's a very fair
request, is saying, "Can I see on paper
what it is that is going on the ballot
and
I think that's fair for all of us,
right? Because I'm struggling reading."
» Well, no, no, that ain't Look, based on
the premise you laid out this morning, I
want to know two things. First of all,
we keep talking about homeowners. This
is this is everybody who lives, whether
it's going to be apartments or whatever,
but I want to know how this proposition
attracts business, commercial real
estate, hit the whole nine yards. All
right. It's a million half dollars just
on base calculation.
A million half dollars. And you're
saying
» Million big? No. No. It's 15. 50
meeting. I'm sorry.
» Okay.
» Yeah, cuz Yeah, cuz I you know, I was on
the 5050,
» You know, if you're going to do a
substitute,
» You know, since since you want to do
that, child care 50, homeless 50, and
public safety 50 since you want to play
the game. But my point is, you know, if
we go on down the road and do our core
responsibility, then we don't have to
worry about that.
» Okay. But since we're not on this right
now as they get the documents ready, can
we continue on for now with
» Yes, let's continue out of for now.
» So now before us are are court orders
three through
» 75 addendum 76 to 85 pulling 36 for
additional language. I'm pulling court
orders 12 38 and 39 for two weeks. Did I
say all that right? and and one more
pulling 85 for additional names from the
elections department.
» Okay.
» Yeah, but I got I got up
» But you just go through them
commissioner as we go into the into the
» Additional comments.
» You have to pull those.
» Well, what?
» Well, I don't know. You know what
y'all you make sure you ain't changed up
nothing. That's my point. Court orders.
I had court orders
» 2025. But we're going as as we go.
Commissioner for comments. You go
through your questions. That way we
don't have to pull them all
to 85. Amen.
» Yes. For additional language.
» It's a frontal lobotomy.
» Okay. Uh so now that's what's before us.
Uh the unpulled court orders. And do you
think you want to pull any or
» Commissioner? You want to talk about 20?
» I won't talk about 20.
» Right now is the time.
» Well, but there's a motion and I second.
» Okay. Go ahead. Uh, Commissioner Price
talked about 20.
» Okay.
» Uh, I talked to um, uh, Randall Miller
with regards to the concerns I had with
uh, with 20 this morning. I had a number
of u
concerns and I think for the record he's
going to that's the gardener consulting
contract with AI talks about phase one
phase two
and the total and the findings and I had
some concerns it apparently just came in
either yesterday but I'd already you
know pulled them down so need to clarify
the application
U with regards to the findings in place
one and replace the deemed accepted with
affirmative
written acceptance uh and require valid
purchase order before working on
invoicing. So this is a gardener
consulting. There was a lot of language.
It's my understanding that they have uh
adjusted the lane. They did,
Commissioner. Uh I we took your concerns
back to Gartner and they they did um uh
adjust the language. They gave us uh
additional interviews from phase one.
And let me just talk about Mr. Martin
and Mr. Reed directed me to
administratively move forward on a phase
one which is the basic discovery
uh the interviews and the document
production for Gartner. Now, this phase
two is for the court's consideration if
we want to utilize Gartner to move and
complete the AI policy.
» Well, it wasn't very expensive, right?
Is you had a concern with it or
» Well, yeah, [snorts] I you got but we
went through and and and re kind of
redesigned the whole ask and they came
back and responded and I still have some
issues. We we got for phase one we got
additional interviews and for phase two
they raised the uh meetings and the
stakeholder meetings from 8 to 15. Um
and we got a final deliverable that uh
the final ultimate deliverable is AI
policy ready for adoption by the
commissioner's court at the end of this.
» Okay. And the cost was only a few
hundred,000
» Couple hundred,000. Phase two is
» 96 thou $200,000
» 96 I believe phase one was 31
» Scope excludes detail you know AI
security control comprehensive privacy
programs data governance privacy and
policy design uh policy designs and that
the products would be you know
foundational rather than implementation
» What's the concern
» I just that's what I just told
» He understands So yeah, we've been
working this.
» So I spoke with Gartner and they they
tried to uh have us a right-sized
policy. So they're going to have us a
policy ready for adoption and some
guardrails, but we're also going to get
some additional advice on other policies
we may want to consider like security
policies and how it integrates into
privacy. But this is the recommendation
that they're recommending right now to
move forward with.
» So this is not the final price tag.
if we want to engage them in other
policies. But this ultimate deliverable
here is a AI policy ready for adoption
and code of ethics for the
commissioner's court to adopt.
» Okay, I got you. I'm good with that.
» So this step is complete right here.
» Yeah, phase one is complete. We I
completed that yesterday.
» You know, I keep telling you, look, we
we sat down with them. Well, we didn't
sit down with them. We sat down, my
staff sat down and did a whole redesign.
There was a lot of things left out of
when you when and and they have included
that, you know, in the policy now, but
but when when he tells me he got some
things yesterday versus what's going on
uh now that they have some other
considerations, that's that's what I'm
that's what I'm looking for.
» We concluded phase one uh yesterday,
Commissioner. We had a meeting with
Gartner. Uh should the court choose to
move forward, I have another meeting
scheduled with them on Thursday. Um as
to next steps and we will start
exchanging drafts. I've sent them all
the documents I've previously produced
to the court. Um and this is for the
course consideration. Uh I've seen a
draft of the preliminary report from
phase one. Hopefully they're hopefully
it's in my inbox when I go upstairs. Saw
it yesterday.
» So the post implementation needs to
manage this. That's that's really where
we're, you know, we're going to, you
know, get our get our heads dented.
» They're going to give us some advice on
and some guard rails, but this is a
baseline policy so we can move forward
with AI implementation across the
organization.
» You know, I [sighs]
let me tell you, my staff and I, we
spent almost, I guess, three or four
days, maybe longer, before we handed it
back to uh Mr. Miller and Mr. Aid and
then Gardner agreed that there's a lot
of stuff they left out. I'm talking
about phase one. Then we went down and
did a total redesign. See, that's that's
the problem around here, you know, we
keep, you know, barreling down roads and
we really have no clue. And then we look
back and say, uhoh, you know, and this
this post implementation
uh gives me some concern. And uh
[snorts] and as he said, he just
finished the deal on phase one on
yesterday. So I but it's but it was
already out there and so we started
going through it.
[sighs] The uh so I I still have some
issues.
So phase one is the only thing and then
I still say there's some issues on phase
two and I'll wait to see what the the
post implementation
uh needs are going to be to manage it
because it's it according to my staff
it's going to be a lot.
We're just, you know, we're just
» So, the recommendation might be take it
a step at a time and we can say no when
we come to
» Well, they they've already doing that.
They they did phase one.
» Well, when did you first present this to
us
the gardener piece? I my staff
» When did we first
» Months ago.
» Months ago. June.
» The the original AI draft I think was
presented in March. That's when we
received the direction to get uh
consulting services on AI policy. We
briefed that to you guys June. May and
June.
» May and June.
» Okay. And we responded immediately.
» Yes.
» Correct.
» Within a couple of days. All of you did.
» Within a couple of days. That's what I'm
talking about. Yes.
» Here we are, August.
And he's saying he just finished first
implementation phase yesterday. Finished
it up. They did the redesign. pushed it
back over. We had, you know, a few more
comments and then yesterday and and then
like I said, we have no clue what this
this this this implementation cost
is going to be even though they say
phase two adds basically $200,000.
» But let me ask you, Mr. Miller phase one
was pretty much to lay out the
foundation of what we want to do in
Dallas County when it comes uh to AI
security. Right.
» That is correct, Dr. Garcia.
» Phase two is the implementation on what
actually we're going to do about
preventing any kind of issues with AI.
We're starting to see it all over around
in briefings, in presentations, in
emails, in text. And what I want my
employees to know is what is what they
can do and what they cannot do. Where
can they can just shoot something from
AI which might not have any sensible
data and when they cannot use county
data for something that is not county
related. Right. Yes. This is safety and
security. That's why we're approving
phase 2 today. And that's when it went
from 31,000 to 196,000.
» Yes.
» Because implementation requires more
than a briefing.
» Yes.
» Implementation requires what exactly am
I paying for the 196,000?
» The ultimate deliverables, Dr. Garcia,
are they're they're going to update our
AI policy and code of ethics. We're also
going to get a compliance alignment
matrix with all applicable security and
privacy laws. I've already sent them my
legislative notes. We uh we're going to
get a foundational AI governance
framework, guidelines on core guard
rails and controls and the initial risk
criteria and evaluation process. How do
we as an organization evaluate the risk?
» Okay. How would we have known any of
that from
» We won't know it unless this pass
» Because my staff and I we we dug down in
it and we spent time with it and that's
the difference around here.
» I would not have known those things.
the step by step all the all the pieces
that are that are included here.
» It's just
» Well I think that this is the logical
evolution of what we've been doing and
we want to do this before um this can
become dangerous and before the state
comes out with different guidelines and
they beat us to the cake.
» Okay. So with with that said though,
we're just voting on the $200,000 today.
» It's $196.
» Okay. So any any desire to pull that or
just keep it in with the uncontroversial
court orders that were considered?
» You know, I you know, as I said, I have
no comfort level because if you've done
the first, I don't I'm pull I'm gonna
pull it.
» Okay. So that's going to be pulled until
next week at the earliest, right? What's
And that's 20. We're still on these
non-pulled court orders.
» Correct. 25 and 26. Commissioner Price,
these are the allocations for um NIPA
Howard Bound, the bridge, Austin
shelter.
» Yeah. 25. Hold on.
» 68,866
for the state um intervention
program.
And I look into these items,
Commissioner Price, and I think this is
money that we're already working on with
all these organizations.
» Hold on, let me do
» That's between
» It's a total of 240,000
» Austin Street,
» Correct?
» Yeah, there's not much money here, but
it's parsed out partners.
» It adds up.
» Yeah.
» What was your concern, Commissioner
Price, about this?
This has um that um we needed to confirm
the written authority retroactive cost
and report services and payments today.
Remove City Square and identify the
current operating model. You know the
document Austin Street as a subreient or
service provider and reconcile the grant
identifiers and governing conditions. We
need to complete the the the title uh
six uh sieges documentation and tie the
reimbursement to rates utilization and
measurable deliverable.
» That's not that that none of that's in
here.
None of it's in here.
» But this is the fuse program and the
crisis intervention program.
Right.
» Right. State. This is the office of the
governor. State crisis.
» It's a fuse program partner.
» Yeah. But I just just told you the
correction before we execute it just to
confirm the written authority
for retroactive cost and report services
and payments to date. Remove City Square
and identify the current operating
model.
Document
Austin Street as a subreient or service
provider and reconcile the grant
identifiers and governing condition. And
of course,
» So you're talking about document
cleanups that need to have city. Yeah.
So he's not talking about like he's
opposed to the deals. He's saying we
have document cleanups here. City square
is no longer a functioning.
» Correct. But it's not here. I didn't see
the square. I'm telling you that it
» I mean and for what NIPBA does on this
you know uh we gain a care coordinator
at the living room so we need these
funds for the ASC portion which is 6322
over a year
NIDBA has provided the gap funding for
fuse in previous items. So I mean guys
um this is very important for all of us.
» I I agree but city square city square
went away in 2024.
» Yes. Yes. But they're not here
commission.
» They're not on that sheet but they may
but they are
» Well if I don't see it I don't know
where it is.
» But my people are reading it all. See
that's what I'm telling you.
» I read it all too. And see
» They're reading it all. City squares in
here. Anybody want to bet
» In the old contract not in the new?
» Okay. Yeah. No. No. That's my point. And
I'm just
» So I think what what he's saying, Dr.
Garcia, is um you know, of course he had
the court order, but behind that are a
whole bunch of documents, right? Right.
» And they are there, but they're not on
the new one.
» Right. And and so maybe he ran that
through AI or something and found city
square.
» Okay.
» And so we need to get I did. I ran it
through African intelligence. It's
called re [laughter]
» Commissioner price staff can look at
that to make sure city square is not in
there. If we could continue with the
corridor though I think we could okay I
think we're all good with that.
» Good. Okay. So that passes 25.
» No no no we we none of it passes yet
because we're doing them all together.
Remember this these quarters.
» All right. Fine.
» Okay. Anything else before we vote on
these?
» Well you got court order. You still got
Gordon, you still got court order
» 33
» 33 and that's that big thought for
mental health, drug and rehabilitation
related services not to exceed 109
uh,000
uh it require uh with the purchasing and
the uh civil division classification as
a chapter 59 donation grant or purchase
of services. So if if using if it's a
procurement using purchasing or you're
identifying a valid exemption if a
donation grant document
statutory eligibility and public purpose
controls.
So where's the line I bud measurable
outcomes resolution of retroactive cost
again form 1295
title uh six documents and risk approved
insurance none of that's in here
again
I know it's just reading
it
» Is it does it have to be in
Yes.
» Yes.
» Can it be added in?
» Commissioner Price, while staff
researches this item, I we I think we
can pull this for two weeks if the
district attorney's office does not
object.
» You need to pull it for two weeks. We we
can get
» For one week, excuse me, for for next
week and we'll place this on the next
agenda. So,
» And we'll have the exemption if there is
one applied.
» Yeah, I can give it to
» Okay, great. All right. So that gets us
to 34.
» 34 is a second amended attorney fee
contract for Carrington Coleman Slowman
Bmanthal
you know and again um you know correct
the prior amendment date. It provides
spending to date balance litigation
stage and forecast through the next
major milestone. the required notice
approximately 75 and 90% of the cap and
it continues the matter specific invoice
review. This is this is that uh this is
100,000 to 160,000
uh pieces before us. They did they did
the hourly range rates they went well
they broke it down 856 for partner 288
for parallegal staff and delegation all
of that. Were there unforeseen things
that happened in this case?
» Come again.
» Were there unforeseen
happenings in this particular case on
the need for the increase in attorney
fees?
» Barbara,
» Why' this happen? How did this happen?
» Increase in the attorney fees
» In the case because the case is still
pending support. So, I can't get into
the legal advice as to the actual
» Lawsuit, but
pass that
wait a few days or go and pass that now.
» So this is essentially this is the Can I
even say what the case is, Barbara?
» Sure.
» Okay. So this is the class action case,
correct?
» Yes.
» Correct. And so we gave them a a number
to start and hope, you know, you always
hope that'll be it, but this being very
expensive litigation, they've blown
through that number. And so if we want
them to continue working, we need to
authorize some more money.
» Correct. 60,000 more.
» Yeah. Yeah. 60,000
» From 100,000 to 160.
And at some point in time, again about
the same kind of plan we talked about
earlier, require notice of approximately
75 to 90% of the cap and and continue
matter specific
review.
» Yeah, you see what he's saying? Instead
of coming to us and saying, "Oh, blew
through the cap. Give me some more
money." He's saying, "When you get to 75
to 90% of the cap, let us know."
» Understood.
» That's a good good idea.
Um
» 46
» 46 is the interphase facilitation
agreement with lab core for electronic
laboratory results transmission uh to uh
Dallas County Health and Human Services.
You know, we need to remove or disclose
the county reimbursement obligation.
Obtain an update cleanses form naming
lab core as a sole payer and conforming
cannot invoice Dallas County. You know,
attach a cost responsibility matrix and
require it security, privacy,
uh, laboratory, epic, clin, and risk
approval. complete any required
my data security documents and documents
for a star um anti- kickback compliance.
So that that whole interphase
facilitation agreement with lab core uh
leaves uh a lot to be desired.
» Why Commissioner Price? because it says
here is a secure electronic so that
information can be shared from the lab
to the epic EHR
so isn't this a better way of doing it
Dr. One is a secure link of transmitting
directly rather than by facts or
computer or email.
» Exactly. And we have been working on
this connection for like two years
because now without that we just get
like sometimes scanned data into the
electronic health record. We can't see
the information. This is just part of
the lab information.
electronic transpose the uh remove or
disclose the county reimbursement
obligation.
» Uh so this was again we've been working
with them labcore because our the
horizon and uh clinicist that does our
electronic lab reporting we've been
trying to make have labcore have a
direct connection to them so we can get
when we send out some of the labs we can
get the information into our electronic
health record.
» Okay.
said that they would pay
» Is basically again we're we're asking
that Clint's be uh form naming LabCore
as the sole payer and confirming that
Clintes cannot invoice Dallas County
that's not in here.
» Um this was an agreement that we're act
you know they had it was uncertain and
LabCore has said they would pay for the
interface. We have a contract with
LabCore so it's a good thing for us.
This is a good thing we're not having to
pay or y just throw some stuff in front
of us and you know I'm just I'm just
staff and I spend a lot of time we're
following this stuff
» And it was a questionable uh again even
as we're making this agreement if it's
between lab core and clinicis why we're
actually in the middle of this but um
this is what we've had to work through
so we can get the connection again what
we want to do is get the connection when
we send out labs to labcore so they can
send it back electronically and it can
get into our electronic health record
system. That's all we're trying to do.
That interface between Lab Core and our
electronic health uh the lab system with
me.
» That's the interface. And so they're
we're not even paying for that. They're
going to pay for the connection and we
just get the electronic data into our
» Have you read what you generated to us
though?
» Pardon?
» Did you read what you generated to us?
» Yes. Again, it was a confusing situation
that we've been having
» Stuff. Yep.
» Yeah, that's my point. And so when we we
read it, then what are we supposed to
do? Just say, "Well, it's confusing, but
what what
» Um again, it's and if it needs
explanation, I'm happy to provide it."
What it simply is is it's our lab
information system and because we have
an external lab uh provider that
sometimes we can't do all of our labs
internally. We just want them to connect
it and
» Just just put it just put it right. Make
it clear and concise. If you're out of
the loop, you're out of the loop. I
mean, in terms of clinices and lab core,
just I'm just trying to, you know, just
just
Yeah, if you'll give them the that sheet
and then they can work on those
documents.
» Okay.
» All right.
» But is the trans the transfer the
transference from lab core an entity to
a clinic directly secure on the time and
we're not paying but one time cost of
33.
» But the briefing document does not say
no cost to Dallas County.
» No. No. It says $36,900
as reflected in the attached quote note
and it's right there and it's the just
you know Dr. Juan just say it's not our
cause.
» You know that they will be paying for
it.
» No fiscal impact to us is what begard
» There's no fiscal impact to Dallas
County associated with the agreement.
That's not what the briefing document
says.
» He said is that the the interface
between Clinus and Labcore would be a
onetime cost of $36,900.
Uh that's what Clint has made between
them. Labcore will be responsible and
they've agreed to pay for that.
» I got it.
» And there's no cost to Dallas County.
» No cost to Dallas County.
» But it doesn't say that.
» Well, it said um no fiscal impact to
Dallas. Yeah, I know what it says, but
I'm telling you in in the detail I'm
looking at it.
» And there was again some uncertainty for
a while because they were trying to get
the bid and it kept it's so Anyway,
we're we're glad that they're willing to
pay for it.
» Yeah, that's right. Just let the
document say, you know, say that and
okay, that it's it's not there, but
okay. your your explanation helped a lot
in being being able to understand
» The written word versus reality.
» Yeah. And we were working with their
lawyers also on trying to get this thing
» A lawyer.
» Yeah.
» Sorry.
» Thank you.
» That's that's my point exactly.
» Well, I mean question
» Coming back to this one. I have no
problems with it. Which is this one?
» The one that judge that um
» Dr. Hang already did the uh court order
46.
» I'm on I'm on I'm on 52 55 but okay. But
long as as as
we understand that there's no cost.
That's not what it says. It's 52 through
55. This is uh the locks on uh
distribution community projects. We just
talked about it
» This morning. Uh talks about money. The
the problem is obtain one on there
explanation and written purchasing grant
classification
confirming a bonafide subawward
and no fragmentation of a county
procurement.
We need to review the combined amount
original scoring year one performance
and the entity specific
scopes budget dates and certification.
Correct the performance periods entities
under title six exhibits and chapter
2252 language before execution.
This is 52 through 55.
These are four related
year two awards cumulatively $100,000
$999,994
and are set and are set at
[clears throat] approximately um 25,000.
The RSA
states that multiple subreipients were
intended, but purchasing and grants
should document that the structure
reflects bonafide federal subawwards
rather than fragmentation of county
procurement
52 through 55
» And those are all related to the
» Well. Well, I'm you know
» The distribution and we talked about it
this morning.
» We tal we talked about the them
distributing this morning. This is a
$100,000 B but I'm just telling you when
we go behind it and start pulling
pulling it down. We talk about discovery
plays 25. This breaks I broke it down to
all of the different different ones but
there are some issues when it comes to
county procurement on this
» To procurement. Why to procurement?
» Because the purchasing grants
classification confirming bonafide
subawwards and no fragmentation of
county procurement. We review the the
amounts and the uh combined amount
original scoring year one year one
performance
and um entity specific scopes budgets
and dates and certifications. So we just
need to correct the performance periods,
entity names and under title six.
» I mean the these are uh renewals. These
are year two of contracts. I'm not sure
if AI spit that out or something. Uh
» It does say Dr. H that is it second
year.
» So we already approved it the first
year, right?
» This is the second year commission. So,
so, so first year you asleep and second
year you caught it.
» No, second year you know you continue
it. I mean we t we hear this morning
that this the the medic the nuxon is
running out like hot bread.
» I I I get that. I get that. I'm I'm just
telling you.
» And the amount of money is not higher.
It's the same.
» It's $100,000
» Which was more or less what we had last
time. So
I don't know what
we're discussing here.
» Each of the contracts are under 25,000.
They're the different organizations.
This is year two of a renewal.
But under 25, the collective is is 99.
Anything over 50,000 is counted by
procurement. But did you break it down
because that's what I'm asking.
» Well, they're to different
organizations,
» But it's all coming to
Dallas County.
And then we're distributing it.
Procurement policy says our
» It we're giving it to four different
organizations. I get it.
» It's our second year.
» You're giving it to them, but you're
procuring it. You're procuring it.
You're procuring over $50,000.
You're procuring it. The policy says
over $50,000. My point is is that you
can break it down any way you want to.
That's what I'm saying. And are you
fragmenting and going around county
policy? Dr. Garcia's point, just because
didn't I didn't catch it before, I'm I'm
catching it now. It's a $99,000
buy.
That's over $50,000
procurement.
But I guess the question you're trying
to make is is it due to
» To avoiding
» That's my point.
» The uh $50,000 C.
» Mr. Fresh, can you jump in this one?
Because I mean, if it's a continuation,
it has to go to procurement
» And it's the budget's been approved by
our granter. Um
I
» Think we need I would need to look at
this before. before we had a discussion
publicly. So I don't look at this. This
is aou which is used sometimes
» Memorandum of understanding that is
dated for one year ago. The question is
do we have to go to procurement if it's
a higher amount of money but it's a
continuation with different partners.
That's it.
» Typically wouldn't go through
procurement on the second year of a
contract that was approved by the board
because it's the annual. If we pass it
as a continuation from an original MOU,
do we My question to you is do we need
to procure it? That's it.
» I mean, it's getting the NLX zone out to
these community partners,
» Less than 5,000 to each one.
» I get I get all that, Dr. Wong. I'm
putting it on the record. It's a $99,000
procurement.
Period. If you put it in 10,000
increments or 25, thou that's you can do
that. Anything over 50,000 procurement
says you go back out.
» Okay.
» So, Mr. Frost, any concerns with this or
should we pull it for a week or what do
we want to do here?
» I would rather pull it for a week if
that's okay, Dr. W. We could talk about
it at the end. It's been approved by
civil so I feel comfortable they've
looked at this.
» They would ask those questions. But I if
you want my opinion, I need to spend
some time to to look at this before I
off the cuff give you an opinion.
» And Dr. for long. I assume that this
isn't going to delay the Noxalone
getting out, right? We're talking six
days.
» Yeah, if it's one week, I assume that's
fine. I mean, again, it's effort to get
these out to the community. These are
small organizations in the community to
provide the community services.
So,
whatever you would like to do.
» Well, I mean, that's what I'm asking
you.
» Yeah. I'm not sure if they're if they've
used up all the nlloxxone and it'll be a
delay for a week. I don't know.
» Well, that doesn't thrill me because
somebody might need that and die
otherwise. So,
can you find out real fast if if
everybody's completely out of knoxone?
» Well, we heard from one of them that
they're already out.
» That's our own internal organization.
So something we did where we just
» What's the impact of that pardon?
» What's the impact of that? Is it life
and death? Is
» Well I mean you know that's it is used
in life and death situations. I don't
know if they run out and then
» Yeah,
» You know, I mean, I think we heard some
partners say that they have a problem
continuing to get the
» Again,
but we can't move it forward today,
right?
» So, we don't really have much of an
option,
» Right? Because it cannot be moved
forward today.
It states in the background the whereas
is that there's
it says approved and authorized through
section 121 and subchapter E of chapter
43 of the Texas health and safety code
in the standing orders of the state of
Texas for the distribution of a lock
zone that may be the reason commissioner
I'm just reading the back the whereases
in the background it states this is in
compliance with Texas health and safety
code and standing orders of the state of
Texas for the distribution of this
product. So maybe that's an exhibit a a
a
» So you are are all I need from you. Are
you telling me it's exempt from the
» Background? I have faith in our civil de
office.
» Are you telling me it's exempt from the
procurement process because it's over
$50,000?
» I'm saying the way it's written, it
appears to be in compliance with
statutes. Yes.
» So you can just separate it out and that
therefore you can go around 50,000.
Okay. just putting it all on.
» The projects are paused now until new
contracts.
» Beg pardon?
» The projects are paused until new
contracts.
» Okay. So, if if if we're good on and you
know, I want to
whatever we can do to both allay
Commissioner Price's concerns, but also
put Noxalone in those those vending
machines as quickly as possible because
it literally is a life or death, you
know, situation.
For many people, if someone has an
opioid or heroin overdose and there's no
knock there,
um,
so we good to what are we doing? We're
going to let it go. And
» Do we have an option?
» I I I've put what I needed to on the
record.
» He's put it on the record. So that's
that's not getting pulled right now,
apparently. So what's next? 5if
52 through 55.
» Yeah. 52.
» That was that was
» That's what we just And
» No, he asked clerks. He asked but 58 is
the uh
the uh TD HCA notification of intent to
contract weatherization assistance
program.
This is where $798,000
is an estimate and prohibits uh
expenditures or commitments until the
executed contract require the final
contract and budget to return to court.
Uh this this this has a narrative talks
about other professional fees and all of
that but the procurement again status of
weatherization contract and the project
number for fund 46
600 are not provided.
The procurement status of weatherization
contractors
and the project number for fund 4660
not provided in this.
And
» We have a we have a current
weatherization contract that's
multi-year. I can pull it up for you
just a minute. I know that's an active
contract. So, it's not referenced, but
we have an active contract that's
approved by the court to do
weatherization. So, I I'm looking for
that now. Commissioner,
» I'm just trying to get a budget
crosswalk that identifies cost incurred
since July 1st confirmed that the
contractor procurement and add a project
and add a project number.
It presently It does not. It says that
it does not provide
the current weatherization contract was
awarded for three years on December 16,
2025. So we have a method to uh spend
the money that's approved by the budget.
Uh so this is strictly a budgeting
discussion, not a contracting position.
We have a current contract in place
approved by this board in December 2025.
» Then answer my question. My question is
there is there a there's no project
numbers fond6600
but there a project number is not
provided which it calls for.
I mean don't blame me. I just read
writing. I'm just trying to follow
through.
Don't everybody talk at once.
» So, essentially what we're trying to do
is just authorize this so that the
auditor's office can establish our
budget appropriation for and um that's
what we need to ensure the program can
be operational.
» So, do you have a project number?
» Huh?
» Project number.
» They provided us the intent to contract.
We want to set up the budget so when we
get the official contract, then it's
it's ready to go and we're not going to
have a gap in service.
» 58.
» Yes. Uh
» 58.
» Yeah, I'm [clears throat] on 58.
» They were asking
the uh uh you don't have project number.
Okay. If if audits is okay with that
budget
on 76, the first administrative judicial
region county contribution year, we're
up to 190. It said that the uh financial
impact assessment letter and motion
stated 197,417
while the recommendation is 194,000. The
motion also repeats incomplete
introductory language several times. Uh
this uh which which one is it?
So is the recommendation and the motion
to be 197,000
and replace the repeating motion
language.
» Commissioner Price, let me work with
this was submitted by the auditor. Let
me confirm that with you. I see in the
recommendation it is the 194,
» Right? The recommendation states 194,
but the motion, the assessment letter
says 197.
» And these specific requests from Judge
Wheelis is 197. So, we would probably
need to amend the recommendation with
the auditor's approval to the 1974.
[snorts]
» Okay.
So pull that one through.
» Mr. Hick supports that. He just said no.
He said he's gonna amend it.
» Yeah. Mr. Hick just approved. So we will
go with Judge Willis's number which is
$197,417
» And we will amend the recommendation
section for the record.
» Which number was that?
» This is under
76. 76. Yep.
» And uh they said they're going to go
with $197,417
which was requested apparent about the
first administrative reading as opposed
to the recommendation of 194,000.
It's just numbers and writing. I know 83
pre-awward.
This is the raise grant for Dallas
County inland port. Um,
now this one's in the briefing describes
20.
» Hell yeah. Cuz I I want it right. I
don't want I don't need I don't need no
nonsense.
» Go ahead. Go ahead.
» 20.95 million in engineering rightway
utility cost as eligible pre-awward
reimbursement. But the federal form
shows zero uh federal share for the
entire 20 million as a non-federal
share. Uh the match versus the
reimbursement treatment must be
reconciled. The budget detail form um
contains bank and I know um I was going
to run this where's public works not
here.
[sighs]
complete and reconcile all the forms,
cost share tables, match reimbursement,
treatment on the full funding schedule
for signature. So you can push it back
up to Miss Miss Blair so she can get
confirm the environmental uh rightaway
authority, execute the agreements
covering the annexation, ownership,
maintenance, utility and the overruns
and then return the final raise grant
agreement and material uh the county
commitment changes to the court. So this
has the county's total commitment is 5.1
million but the submission only shows
2.9 million. The remaining 2.2 million
and total funding schedule are not
shown.
Oh, there you are. So did you I didn't
get it get back around. You see where
I'm going?
» Yeah.
» Okay. Are you able to kind of clear that
up? I just want I'm just saying that
it's Federal Highway
Administration. I'm just I'm looking at
the county's total commitment 5.1
million but the submission only shows
2.9 million. The remaining 2.2 2 million
and total project funding schedule are
not shown.
And it and it says in incomplete um the
the budget detail form contains blank
cost share and project detail tables
template language and incomplete
certification
uh stating enter recipient name.
Commissioner, I think we need to go back
and look at that.
» Okay.
» A little closer.
» Okay.
For you to be able to do that. I should
have got it to you before, but like you
see how many of these damn I'm these
things I'm having to go through, but
that's that's that's my fault.
» Yeah, we we'll go ahead and cuz like I
said, we're just trying to get this
[clears throat] over to the fence.
» I believe you will know.
» I know.
» Okay.
» Okay. But I want go over there, right? I
don't need no trouble.
Don't want no trouble at the river when
I cross over 84U
with uh United States Capital Police and
this temporary uh rooftop communication.
Uh Mr. Okay. Yeah, you're going to
you're going to answer.
» Yes, sir.
» Okay.
Correct. The federal signature, date,
and authority. Move sensitive technical
details to a security control
implementation document where legally
permitted. Require facilities, it radio
security, risk approvement, county
priority and immediate uh shutdown
removal rights and full USCP
responsibility for the installation,
damage and removal, restoration, attach
access, air escort contractor, equipment
inventory and final inspection
procedures.
Uh, I'm sorry, Commissioner. Um, your
your question there is
» Well, you need to correct the federal
signature, date, and authority. Um, it
looks like when my people got into it
said no document, I can get into all
this other stuff. No documented,
structural, roof warranty, electrical,
grounding, lighting, fire code, radio
frequency. I can get into all of that. I
just got looks incomplete.
» Okay, let me uh let me take a look at
that, Commissioner, because this is the
first time I'm seeing that. So, um what
you're bringing up,
» Mr. Bone, give it up.
» No, no, sir. I'm listening.
» Okay. Okay. I mean, y'all are well known
this. I mean, I guess H is that the
last?
» Yeah.
» I don't know if that we have to do it
this week, if we can do it next week.
But
» Well, what does it when does it need to
be done? I mean, I'm just
» I'm have a meeting next week,
Commissioner. We can probably just place
this on the next agenda. Just to make
sure we're bringing the requested
information, though. So, you wanted
detail on
» On on what specifically?
» On court order 84,
» Correct the federal signature, date, and
authority.
Move the sensitive technical details
[clears throat] to a security control
implementation document where legally
permitted
require facilities IT radio security and
risk approval county priority immediate
shutdown removal right.
» Yes sir. I think we'll also uh we can
work with uh Chief Forester also to give
you an executive session briefing on
this matter that I think will accompany
this item very well. So let us work on
that and we'll be ready for the next
meeting. Okay,
» I'm not even Hang on, guys. Before we do
this, do we know that we even have I
mean, we got a lot of stuff we got to do
before September the 10th is
I don't know the answer to this as I sit
here today. I'm just hitting doing
things as they're sent to us by the
feds.
Do we have a week to
do the order? Because I don't know all
the federal bureaucracy of how long it
takes to get some communication
equipment on the roofs around AAC.
» Um, uh, Judge Jenkins, um, they kind of
last minuteed us on this request. Um,
the good thing about the the the rooftop
penthouse at Crowley is, um, our
wireless radio communication group is
not using that uh, particular tower.
When we put the new P25 radio system in,
we we migrated it to the other tower.
So, this tower is not not being used by
us.
» Okay.
» Okay. But do we have do we have six
days? I mean, I would think we do, but I
don't know.
» I think so, sir.
» And I don't want to be responsible for
anything that happens.
» They've been pretty um um flexible, but
check. But I and I'm not worried worried
about them. I'm worried about us. And
then, as I said, I didn't get into all
the detail. I was just talking about why
I pulled it and what all it needed. You
know, I I just want to say to Steph,
this is not a I got you. We spend a lot
of time going through all this damn
paperwork. And if it's there, it's
there. And if it's not, it's not. It's
just that simple. Because I I would have
gotten back to I mean, Miss um
» Please, please get them this stuff ahead
of time.
» Well, wait, wait, just a damn minute. We
work all weekend. We we work and we pull
this stuff out. Yeah, I'd love to,
Judge.
» Okay. Well, please. We'll get with you
after this. We get the program and they
can all run too and then hopefully it
can resolve a lot of this.
» Well, my my staff runs and I don't
But I pulled [clears throat] 15 dad gum
orders and every one of them had, you
know, had some I didn't
» Questions to it.
» Do what?
» And I know I went through the same thing
of working over the weekend and that
kind of business. 84 orders is a lot.
And you know what what they say is you
if you can't handle the job, get out of
it. Accept that it's a lot.
» Commissioner, if if I could get that
from your staff, uh that would be
helpful. Just to make sure we address
all your concerns, sir.
» Talk to me staff.
» Here, here you go, M.
» Thank you.
» I was just doing generally.
» Okay. Court court order 36. Judge, who
has additional language?
» What was that?
» Court order 36. We pulled 36 for
additional language.
» Who has the language?
» Well, wait. Now we have to vote on these
first because 36 was was actually pulled
out of that group.
» Yeah.
» So, is there we we've had some
discussion. Some orders have been
pulled. Uh, Commissioner Price, you
probably would know best what orders
were pulled.
Oh, which one on?
» So, so before us are the
non-controversial unpulled court orders,
but after talking about them,
Commissioner Price sought to pull some.
» 20 33 34 46 52 55
» No, 52 through 55 would not
» That stay. Oh, that's right. Because
he's in a lockon, right? Yeah. Uh then
58.
» Let him tell you or tell us. He's got
it.
» I think he's got
» 33 76
834.
» Thank you, sir. All right. So, with
those additional polls from the from the
list, I think we're now ready to vote.
All those in favor of this
» Oh, I have some comments.
» Okay. on one item and I saw um the
League of Women Voters earlier today
uh and I want to thank the elections
department. If you look at agenda item
number 35, it was the 2026 election
worker pay rates increases.
I um you know I was very pleased to see
that early voting judges went from 2022
to $22 an hour. Election day judges from
24 to 26. Early boarding day clerks from
1824 to 1915 an hour. Election day pole
workers um cler clerk training class um
you know will be $80 per class. And
today when Commissioner Price asked
about all the training, it will be paid
if you choose to retake the training. So
I think that at the time when we're
really challenged with election workers,
this is a good call, guys. And I want to
thank all the people that got involved u
with the elections department. And
» Mr. on. Even though I wasn't very
specific, when you get down to their
signature, it says 25, not 26
on your paperwork
» For for the federal document.
» Yes, sir. Okay.
» Okay. It says 25,
» Sir. I I know they did it. I'm just
telling them. Hell, I still Well, they
did it with a reading, but it says 25 in
the document. Okay. Okay.
We expect if he has to do it, right?
» Never mind. Never mind. Okay. Is there
anything else?
» I'm ready to call the question on the
non-controversials then.
» Okay.
» If we have a clean record on it. Do we?
» Yes. Clerk, he has a clean record.
» Do we? Okay. Clerk says we do.
» Okay. Call the question. All those in
favor of non those that are
non-controversial court orders let it be
known by using sign of voting.
» I
» Those who are opposed same sign chairs
in the affirmative. Okay. And the others
will get ready on go for
um that should
» That takes you to the miscellaneous
commissioner price. You wanted to say
something about the Corvette 2007
Chevrolet Corvette that is coming back
with a clean title.
» Yeah, I want to see
[snorts]
» What was that about? Miscellaneous item
number one.
» Yeah, I want to see it.
» Staffing, intergovernmental equipment
transfer, mileage reimbursement, and
membership use under 50,000. That's what
you put there,
» Right?
So, what
» I don't know what do you wanted to say
about that.
» Yeah, just I mean
» I want to know what it's used for.
» Yeah.
» You know what I mean? All right. So, we
got this good-look Corvette,
» Right?
» A 2007 Chevrolet Corvette,
» Right? And it's going to DA, isn't that
right? DA's office. So, what what are
they using it for?
» I mean, maybe undercover.
» I don't know. I think that's what
Commissioner Price wanted to know. Yeah,
probably something.
» Yeah.
» Well, probably something. What?
» We can pull it and get more information
for you, Commissioner.
» Yeah.
» What is the
» I don't Yeah.
» Well, we have Homers. We have other
cars. We have Porsches that come
through.
» I mean, we have a lot of different
vehicles that have come through and we
just want to know
» Where are they going this beautiful.
» And for those of you think
I don't have a car. Never had one. Don't
want one.
» Oh, you don't have this one?
» No, I don't have one. Don't want one.
Never had one.
» Anyway, u Okay, gotcha.
» Take one.
» Okay, that concludes the agenda, judge,
especially.
» All right, so I don't Let me look and
see if we have any speakers.
» Yes, Dolores Phillips.
» We do.
» No, no, no. We haven't voted on
everything yet, guys.
» Yes, we have. We voted.
» We did while you were out, judge.
» We voted on all the non-controversial
stuff. non-controversial court orders,
but we still got um two things. We have
to read stuff into the record that were
pulled for reading into the record.
» Item number 36.
» Number 36. And who is read? Is that the
one on the uh Hang on one second, guys?
Because one of these things I can read
into the record, but the other one I'm
going to need some help on.
Yeah, 36 I can do.
Paul, somebody from your office needs to
get here for your names or text them to
me.
» Um,
» Oh, the election judges
» Number 46. Okay,
» So
» I thought that moving the
» Yes. Okay,
» Are you gonna read them?
» Yes, sir. This is for one item number
46.
» No, no, no, sir. It's not you. Not you.
» Yeah.
» Thank you, Mr.
» But I like how you're ready.
» I appreciate it.
» Ready. So, the 36 is before us and uh I
don't see anyone from elections. Should
we wait a minute until someone from
elections gets here?
The first one that we're going to I just
want to make sure we're doing it right.
And Barbara, maybe you have the language
and we don't have to wait for him on
that one, but I'm pretty sure we will
have to wait for him on the next one.
Um, the language on the first one is the
hours of the first week of voting were
stated incorrectly and that's the only
thing I need to fix, right?
» 36.
» Oh, yes. Please have him come in here.
Oh, he's in the building, right?
» Would he also, while he's coming, can
somebody else find me the names of the
people that they want added to the last
court order,
» Please? The last court order,
» The the 86 is a is is a court order
where we named some election judges and
they're saying they have additions to
that
» That they were going to be here to read
into the record, but no one's here.
» Judge, you're calling it 86 and it's 85.
I think
» I beg your pardon.
» The clerk has some questions. for 36
for um agenda item 36 it was to for the
first week of early voting to the new
hours to be 7 to 7
» And that's all I've got to say.
» Yes.
» Oh, great. Thank you very much. All
right. So, as as I Oh, let's get that in
front of us. Is there a motion and
second on 36?
» Some move.
» Okay. Okay. So, um, when this was
originally done, the law allows, uh,
voting from 7 a.m. to 7 pm on the first
week. It mandates it on the second week.
These I'm talking about the Monday
through Fridays. Uh, the lowest you can
do is 8 to 5. There was some confusion
uh with staff
on that and they put the low number as
opposed to what Dallas County always
does in in major elections which is the
maximum number of 7 to 7. So, the change
in the order is only this that for the
first week of early voting, voting
begins at 7 a.m. and and uh polls close
at 700 p.m. The rest of the hours would
stay the same. And that's the only thing
that need to be read into the record
for um 36.
» Okay.
» Correct. Barbara,
» Is that correct?
So this is the correct rate.
» Yes.
» Let's wait for James. We don't want to
make
» Yeah.
So it's 786 here and it's 886 here. So
the difference
» James do all is all that needs to happen
is I need to explain that the order will
have 7 a.m. to 700 p.m. the first Monday
through Friday.
» That's correct.
And then the the it was it already 7
through 7 on the first Saturday and 1 to
six on the first Sunday on the only
Sunday.
» Correct. Yes.
» Okay.
» All right. So that nothing
[clears throat] special just that
correct?
» Just that judge. Yeah.
» Okay. So we've done that already. Uh
» I think I've already said that. So are
we ready to vote?
Yeah. Oh, I said wanted to. All right,
let me read.
» I'm so sorry. Let me start over on that.
So, the only amendment to 36 is that the
first week of voting um Monday through
Friday will be 7 a.m. until 7 p.m. The
rest of the numbers on the order will
stay the same.
With that read into the record, are we
ready to vote?
» Yes.
» All right.
» Question.
» Call the question.
» Oh. All those in favor signify by saying
I.
» I.
» Any opposed?
» Motion carries unanimously.
Next up is 85, which
» Without the names, I'm not going to be
able to amend that. So, I would
appreciate it if someone would either
send me the names or come tell us the
names.
» Is this for 85?
» Yes.
» Okay.
What is this?
» Is that the same number?
» Probably not. But uh
» That's not right. But that's okay.
Charles is going to get the right
number. You're you're getting the right
number. Right, Charles?
» Yes, sir. So, the document that was just
passed out
» And then the document that
» This document,
» They should have the same number. They
do have the same number on it. The 25315
» 253.
» It's only It's only $22 different. Hell,
don't make
» It's only 22.
» Still still on right though. Can you
just please do it with the numbers we
gave you?
» They did.
So,
» Um,
» Five5 off of
» H. Here's Paul Adams.
» I may just have to come get with you
guys on a typewriter. So, I don't know.
But let's get this next one. Uh,
» Paul, do you have the u
» Names that you want read into the
record?
We did that. We did that already.
» Hey, can I hear you in the mic?
Is that what they want?
» Thank you very much.
Okay. So,
» Where is my original?
» The uh the 85 is going to be pulled for
two weeks.
Judge, commissioners, in front of you,
you have two different documents. One
is a property tax rate uh comparison.
The other is the ballot language that
was referenced earlier. Uh looks like
this. So, walking through the property
tax rate comparison, the proposed TR
added to the voter approval rate, if you
look at the sheet with the blue border
at the top, current rate, starting left
or right, current rate is 2155,
has a current uh property tax on a
$350,000 house of $754.
The V, the voter approval rate, which
was what was originally approved
earlier, has a uh average tax of 786 on
a 356 $350,000 home. The voter approval
rate plus the TR that's proposed at
25315
is an $886
levy on a $350,000 home. The ballot
language is included on the other sheet
that
» Where's the other sheet?
» It should have been passed out to you by
the deis judge.
» Okay.
» Yeah. The ballot language for the tax
rate election
» Proposal reads approving the advorum tax
rate up to.25315 25315
per $100 valuation in the county of
Dallas for the current year, a rate that
is 00285 higher per $100 valuation than
the voter approval tax rate of the
county of Dallas for the purpose of
funding programs that measurably reduce
homelessness and resolve homeless
encampments, increase access to mental
health treatment, support programs that
provide stable housing, and improve
Dallas County public safety services.
Last year the abl tax rate in Dallas
County was 0.2155
per $100 valuation.
» So before we get to debate and whatnot,
um
that is the correct language of what
would be on the ballot if next week
we voted to include the TR.
What is before us today and then we can
hear all debate anybody wants is whether
or not to post the approp the required
language
in the Dr. Daniel the Dr. Daniel. Uh,
so what is before us today is whether or
not to repost the required language so
that that could be considered next week.
If we don't post the language this week,
then the time would run out and that
would be the end of it and it would
» Thank you.
» Okay, great. So, that's all that's
before us for today. Now, and and I'm
sure by next week if this passes to get
the posting out that everyone will have
many questions about what would this
cost a homeowner that didn't have a
homestead exemption or lived in a
million-doll house or a barber shop in a
certain neighborhood and all those
things they could look at and we could
discuss next week. This vote is just for
whether or not we even get that far,
whether we post this or not. With that
said, um I know everybody's going to
want to make arguments and whatnot. Who
wants to start?
» I'm good.
» You're
» Okay. You want to make arguments?
» Nothing else to say. This guy's call.
» Okay.
» It's about $154.52.
» Yes. All those petition.
» Yes. All those in favor signify by
saying I
» I
» I uh all those opposed.
» No.
» All right. The eyes have it and the
posting uh will occur and I'll set the
agenda in such a way that we comply with
the posting rules for consideration for
for next week.
I think except for public speakers that
may be it.
Am I correct? This has gotten so
convoluted.
» Do we
now? What was on for? Tell me. Okay,
that's you, right? That's right. You
told me that. That's why you came up
here.
» Yeah. I'm sorry, man.
» So, come on back. I was reading
something into the record.
» Yeah, he told me. He told me.
» Shar. Thank you.
» I thought you were crazy when you got up
there. I was like, why is he up here? He
doesn't know the name of all these
Republican election judges.
» Okay, I'm crazy. You go ahead.
» No.
» Uh, this is a request from the civil DA
to amend a motion on item 46 to read as
follows. Be resolved and ordered that
the Dallas County Commissioner's Court
does hereby authorize and approve the
CDB 2026 CDBG and home projects and
activities with the cities of Balt
Springs, Cedar Hill, Duncanville,
Farmers Branch, Lancaster, and Wilmer.
and authorize the county judge to sign
each of the related citytown
implementation agreements utilizing the
implementation agreement templates as
provided via court order 2025-0723
on behalf of Dallas County. Thank you,
sir.
» Thank you, sir. All right. So, now we
need to take that up and that's our last
order.
» Moved.
» Um All right. There's been a motion from
Commissioner Summerman, second by
» Second
» Commissioner Daniel. All those in favor
signify by saying I.
» I.
» Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously.
We've still got some public speakers um
on matters that weren't on our agenda.
So, um
» I see Dolores.
Hey, Dolores.
That is
» Oh, you want You've already done it
though. You want to do it? Oh, you're
handing out stuff. I got
» Okay.
» Michelle Wington's online, too. Judge,
» I'll get a hold of. Everybody that's on
here gets to talk.
» Dolores Phillips. You have an address.
Fortune Square Apartments, Grand
Prairie, Texas. You have handouts.
Keep in mind
DF-92-11850
255th
Dallas County Family District Court.
Keep in mind DF-9211850.
I also wanted to say before Dr. Ela
Garcia, I did leave you a message a
couple of months ago to ask for a
meeting. I need to meet with you Dr.
Wong and also Dr. sice of Parkland is
very serious. It's concerning medical
gaslighting is present, not just past,
but recent. Also,
the handout you have is from the FBI.
When honorable Judge Warren in
PR-23-03429-2
in the guardianship case for my dad, she
received a phone call in front of me
just like you sitting on the bench. I
seen her face go south and sour. She
launched fullfledged investigations with
full access. That means that they had
the right to take orders to go get
whatever they wanted to.
I never got not one word or piece of
anything to respond. Now I got did this
FBI request for you know what is going
on. They said you got to send us your
fingerprints. I went down to Dallas
County. It took me three sets in 2024
when I sent them to the FBI.
I disputed something but I didn't get
any records until this year. When you
look at the report, it says that I was
arrested with someone. I've never been
in a car in my life, arrested with
anyone. I don't even know this,
Stephanie. But here's the kicker. Not
only do they have a picture of me, they
have my fingerprints. When I spoke with
the FBI, she was offended because I
asked her could she make sure that it
was not me. She said, "Ma'am, we didn't
make a mistake. We compared your
fingerprints, what you sent us with what
is on file in Iran. That was September
29th, 2011 that I was supposed to be
arrested. Remember DPD number 0273291A
when you said I was down there acting a
fool using hands and feets as weapons.
We talking about foul building. Sherry
Kusumo and Mary Biz Thorne of DPD showed
me medical records, pharmaceutical
records from Walgreens that was supposed
to be mine that's not mine. But you
filed Bill. We going to rewind and play
back because you strongmed my dad's
estate and he was begging for to live.
But not only did y'all deny
guardianship, y'all appointed a court
attorney at Lightum to neglect him to
further steal his estate before it was
an estate. It's ugly. FB not FBI not
liking this.
» Thank you.
» Our next speaker is Miss Roselyn Cart.
Thank you. Our next
» Sure.
» Uh you bet. Um, can everybody that's
John?
Yeah. No. Okay, great.
Thank you, Dolores. Thank you. Sorry it
took so long today. All right. Our next
speak.
» All right. Our next speaker is Miss
Rosalyn Carr.
Miss Rosalyn Carr.
Miss Rosalyn Carr. How about online,
man? She
All right. Our next speaker,
hang on one second. Our next speaker
is um
this this isn't a name, but I'll get
your name when you come up. Harris
County ODA.
Um I'm going to need a name from you.
Are you online or are you here?
Okay. Why don't you check with that
person? Um, and uh they're we're going
to need their name and then we're I'll
I'll go ahead and let them speak this
time since they registered even though
they didn't put their name in. All
right. Our next speaker is Mr. William
Hopkins. I see Williams not here in the
courtroom. Um, is William on? Oh,
Williams out there. Oh, and they're
saying he's also not outside. So, is
William online perhaps? All right,
William Hopkins. All right, I didn't see
him today. Our next speaker is Michelle
Wigington, who I did see today.
Um,
they left. So, is Michelle online.
» Oh, okay. Great.
» This is Michael Wigington, not Michelle.
» We have Michael.
» I tell you what, Michael, go while we
find Michelle. But I need you to pull up
your camera.
» Hey, it's Michael Wigington. Um,
speaking today about arrest reports from
your fire marshall's office. Y'all went
to executive session to discuss a
specific uh request for information. Uh,
one will notice the date on that request
for information is August 12th, 2025.
Y'all still haven't produced various
reports from that request.
You've all been notified. Mr. Martin's
been notified. Uh, Deputy Director Cho
of the Civil Division told me personally
I'd be getting those missing reports
last week, early last week. I've been
trying to call him repeatedly since
then. I have not gotten through. My
calls are being ignored. Y'all are not
releasing arrest information. y'all have
been ordered to release months and
months and months ago. Earlier today,
when y'all broke for executive session,
my sister and I were sitting downstairs.
Uh we noticed fire marshals arresting
a person outside. Uh we stood, watched
patiently, did not disturb
[clears throat] them for 20 minutes.
They were wrapping up getting back into
their cars. We asked, "What are you
arresting that man for?" They told us,
"Submit an information request. We don't
have to answer that."
It takes over a year to get arrest
reports from you guys. And yet, you
won't even answer basic questions about
who y'all are arresting.
We already know y'all didn't pass a
court order to give these people this
authority. Y'all refused to release
records on what they're doing with this
ungranted authority and now y'all are
wanting to pass more pass a higher tax
rate to give them more funding to assist
more people. Uh y'all want to change
your enforcement of transportation code
based off the say so of your fire
marshal who won't give out records of
what they're doing.
When when are we going to get our
records? Thank you.
» Thank Thank you, Michael. Um
All right. How about uh let's go back to
Michelle if she's there. Did you get her
online?
» So, you waiting for her camera or you
can't find her?
with her right now.
» Oh, hey, Michael. Don't leave yet. Do
you have Michelle with you?
» All right. Well, um, we'll come back to
that one. Whatever. Uh, Miss Sh, next up
is Miss Sharon Shepard.
Come on up, Sharon.
First of all, giving honor to God who is
the head of my life. I would like the
commission court to do an investigation
to find out how the courts are utilizing
their time. I have a serious issue. I
was with uh court number 255, the family
court. Uh I tried to file several
motions. I went into the chamber where
the judge was or went into the courtroom
where the judge was. She refused to talk
to me. I talked to her um assistant,
Miss King. She came out, sent someone
out. We're going to put your information
on the docket.
I filed over several motions that were
never heard. However,
there are documentations inside of my
file that has never been there before.
Take for instance, I asked the judge to
recuse herself.
I'm not going to call the judge's name,
but there was a judge by the name of D
that said he heard the recusal on the
255th court.
Well, I found out that that particular
judge and the judge in 255
have a conflict of interest. They are
pretty good friends. So, whatever she
wants, he will allow it. I have
documents
that are missing from my court records.
And I have called Felicia.
Felicia has not been forthcoming in
helping to locate those documents. I
have the e files and I'm saying what
happened to these files. No one has been
able to tell me anything. I'm having
things put in my files and things taken
out of my files. and I call uh the Texas
Supreme Court, which that is where my
case is, but I need all of the records
in my case in order for it to proceed.
But we having people over next door
that's utilizing their courts room 30
minutes for a divorce, but an hour to
have a wedding. I walked in to the 255th
court.
We're having an hour wedding, but it's
only 30 minutes for a divorce. I walked
into the 255th court. Do you have Apple
Pay? Do you have sales? Do you have
this? And I'm going like, this courtroom
is being you utilized for other than
what it's supposed to be utilized for.
So, I'm asking for an investigation if
it's anything possible.
And by the way, Britney Spears, uh,
Britney King's aunt, came to me and
tried to embezzle money from me
for her to follow motion on my behalf.
Thank you,
» Mike.
» Judge Mike,
» I thought you were saying something was
up with Michelle's mic. Uh, so
too much.
» She's back.
» Oh, she's back. Okay. All right. Uh,
next up is Michelle Wigington.
» You already started her timer. We need
to restart.
» Yeah, res reset her time.
» This is Michael Wigington still.
Michelle's called in from her cell
phone, but she's not here in this room
with me. She's elsewhere.
» Can she FaceTime? because the the
governor requires us to have the face
for the remote people.
» I'm not sure.
» Have her come next. Just tell her
Michael that she can be online next
week. Just get somewhere where she's got
a camera and a
you know audio.
» All right. Well, she's called in right
now.
» I know, but I can't do it if I can't see
her face because of the governor's
order. See what I'm saying?
» The governor's order.
» Okay.
» Can she get to a screen or a camera?
» I don't think so right now. She's got
places to be
executive session for an hour and a
half.
» She signed up for agenda items and uh
» Okay,
» Y'all skipped over her then. Uh okay.
But yep, I'll let you all continue on.
» Thank you, sir. All right. Next is Miss
Sharon Shepard.
Oh, I'm sorry. My brain is fried, guys.
I'm sorry. I I just talked to Sharon two
minutes ago. Next is Miss Amina Adamu.
» Is she here? Amina Adamu. Amina Adamu.
All right. Um,
still got more
on
Next is M. And I think this one, I beg
you, pardon. This one was on an agenda
item and we didn't see it. Uh, this is
Mr. Arnold Cantto
and this
Oh, wait a second.
Okay, never mind. This person just
thought they need to sign up in case
somebody asked him a question. So, it
says, "I will not speak unless asked a
question by commissioner's quarter
staff. I'm registering to make myself
available to answer questions relating
to the engagement of Cantou Harden and
Mononttoya as county disclosure council
which
was passed earlier or pulled one or the
other.
» It was passed earlier.
» Passed earlier. Okay. So, that concludes
our list of public speakers for today.
Um, thank you everyone and thank you
especially to staff uh scrambling to uh
get all those things um done.
for uh the reconsideration and
everything else uh and all the great
work the month that we weren't uh having
meetings. Um all right uh our close
session is finished. So at this point
the court stands adjourned.