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THIS MEETING OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION TEAM. TIME IS, LET'S GO. 4 34. 4:34 PM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM 90% OF THAT, YOU ARE IN A RUSH TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IT'S ARTS RELATED, SO WE ARE GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE, BUT MOVE ON AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. WE HAVE VOTING ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. NUMBER ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 18TH, 2023 ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THAT THE CHAIR ASKED. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? MADAM CHAIR? YES. EXCUSE ME. I HAVE TO MAKE A CORRECTION. OKAY. UH, MUCH AS I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO HAVE BEEN HERE. I WAS NOT. OKAY. UH, WE'LL NOTE THAT CORRECTION ARE THERE OTHER CORRECTIONS CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 18TH ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING. ARE YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? THIS MOTION WILL INCLUDE THE NOTED CORRECTION, WHICH VICKY MEEK HAS NOTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE NOD BY RAISING YOUR HANDS. THE AYES HAVE IT IN THE MOTION. MS. KAREN, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A BARITONE TODAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY VOICE. OKAY. LET'S MOVE DOWN TO THE BRIEFING ITEMS. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO VOTE ON TODAY. WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT THE BRIEFING ITEMS, THE SPOTLIGHT. MR. GUTIERREZ HERE. LOUIS IS PERSON HERE? DO WE NEED TO MOVE ON NINE AND TWO? YEAH, THERE IS. OKAY. ARD, ARE YOU HERE? YOU WANNA UN UNMUTE? UNMUTE. AND CAN WE HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON? THANK YOU. WELCOME. WE'RE READY FOR YOUR SPOTLIGHT. WILL YOU UNMUTE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? YES. THERE YOU GO. YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. I'M READY. WE'RE READY TO HEAR YOU. OKAY. MY NAME IS EDUARDO GUTIERREZ. I'M, AND I'M ARTISTIC DIRECTOR FOR OLIN P**I BALLET COMPANY. OLIN P**I MEANS JOYFUL MOVEMENT. AND NOW WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE AZTECS, WE, UH, ARE IN SMALL, NO SMALL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION BASED HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE FOR, FOR 35 YEARS. WE HAVE SMALL, UM, PHOTOS. YES. AND LIN P**I MEANS JOYFUL MOVEMENT. AND NOW WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE AZTECS. AND OUR MISSION IS TO INCREASE AWARENESS AND PROMOTE ALL THE TRADITIONAL ARTS AND CRAFT FOLK MUSIC AND DANCES FROM LATIN AMERICA. SO WE PROVIDE PERFORMANCES AND DIFFERENT, UH, FESTIVALS AND EDUCATIONAL FOR DIFFERENT, UH, D I S D, UH, RECREATIONAL CENTERS AND SENIORS PROGRAMS. UH, THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE. UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 35 YEARS. WE HAVE TWO NATIONAL TOURS. WE PERFORM ABOUT 300 YEARS, TIMES A YEAR. BUT OUR BASE HOUSE IS HERE IN DALLAS. UM, WE HAVE A SMALL VIDEO THAT YOU CAN SEE. UH, OF COURSE OUR MAIN, UH, FESTIVAL IS, UH, FORICO FESTIVAL OF DALLAS AT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER. NEXT IS THE, ONE IS THE SMALL VIDEO. SO YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE FOR THE CITY. WE DO THE, UH, RECREATION CENTER PARKS, AND WE USE EVERYTHING IN THE CITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES.
AND THE NEXT WILL BE THE SMALL VIDEO. YES, WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE HAVE A PRE-COLOMBIAN PROGRAM. WE HAVE THE VIDEO. OH, THERE'S A VIDEO THERE, RIGHT THERE. SO, UH, THE VIDEO PROVIDES, WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE HAVE PRE-COLOMBIAN MUSIC AND DANCES. WE HAVE, UH, MUSIC AND DANCES FROM LATIN AMERICANS OF AMERICA. WE HAVE, UH, WE DO PROGRAMS FOR COLOMB. WE DO DANCES FROM COLOMBIA, ARGENTINA, ECUADOR, BRAZIL, AND OF COURSE MEXICO. UM, MOST OF, MOST OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE IS, UH, THROUGH THE FUNDS OF, UH, OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE. WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR HELPING US TO KEEP GOING WITH THESE PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME INTRODUCE OUR COMPANY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO ASK? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS IN THE GALLERY. NONE IN THE ROOM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR DALLAS AND THE ARTS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN CALLED TO MY ATTENTION THAT I MISS THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. THERE ARE SOME PERSONS HERE WHO ARE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS DAVID LOZADO. MR. LOZADO HERE, UH, SPEAKER SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PRIORITY DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF COMMISSION. ANY ME, ANY SPEAKERS MAKING PERSONAL AND PARENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION OF THE MEETING OF THE DIRECTION OF THE CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CHAIR HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK OF CHAIR BY THE CH SUBJECT TO CHANGE BY THE CHAIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR. UH, MR. LOZANO, CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN SEE HIM? CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN, YES. YES. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I, I'M HERE TO, UM, READ OUR ORGANIZATION'S STATEMENT ON THE PASSING OF JESSE TEY JR. THE KA THEATER FAMILY MOURNS, THE LOSS OF OUR BELOVED BOARD MEMBER, JESSE DEFY, JR. MINNIE WILL REMEMBER HIM FOR GREETING GUESTS BEFORE THE PLAYS WITH HIS EFFUSIVE SMILE AND HUMOR. JESSE ALSO ADVOCATED FOR KAMIA AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY, PROMOTING PLAYS AND SOLICITING SUPPORT. HE DEVELOPED HIS LOVE FOR LATINO THEATER BECAUSE OF HIS FATHER, WHO WAS A TRANSFORMATIONAL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND BOARD MEMBER OF DEATH OR DALLAS. JESSE OFTEN SAID THAT BEING INVOLVED WITH KAMIA THEATER WAS A WAY TO CONTINUE HIS FATHER'S LEGACY. JESSE LIVED TO SERVE HIS COMMUNITY. HE WAS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF MANY ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING RAINBOW LULAC, STONEWALL DEMOCRATS, DALLAS COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND THE MLK JUNIOR COMMUNITY CENTER BOARD. HE WAS A CHAMPION OF NUMEROUS SOCIAL CAUSES AND POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, ENCOURAGING THOSE AROUND HIM TO ENGAGE IN ELECTORAL POLITICS AND COMMUNITY ACTIONS. ABOVE ALL, HIS LOVE FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS WAS UNCONDITIONAL. HE WAS ALWAYS PRESENT FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS AND TO LEND A HAND OF SUPPORT. WE'LL MISS OUR DEAR FRIEND JESSE, TREMENDOUSLY, BUT WE'LL HONOR HIM BY ASPIRING TO FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE OF LOVE AND SERVICE FOR OTHERS EACH AND EVERY DAY. THAT WAS OUR, UH, OFFICIAL STATEMENT THAT WE RELEASED LAST WEEK. UM, IT HAS BEEN A VERY, UH, CHALLENGING, UH, TWO WEEKS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE COMMUNITIES OF SO MANY OTHER GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS, JESSE WAS A, UH, A WEB CREATED A WEB, UH, THAT WAS THE GLUE FOR MANY OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS TO WORK TOGETHER, AND IN PARTICULAR FOR ACADEMY THEATER IN WHICH WE CREATE PLAYS AND ART THAT CONNECTS WITH SOCIAL CAUSES. JESSE WAS THAT GLUE THAT CONNECTED US ALL TOGETHER, AND WE'VE BEEN REMEMBERING HIS JOY, HIS HUMOR, UH, AND HIS JOKES. UM, SO
WE, UH, WE'RE VERY, UM, WE WE'RE VERY SORRY AND WE'RE VERY, UM, VERY SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF JESSE, BUT WE WILL BE CELEBRATING HIM TONIGHT AT HIS VIEWING AND TOMORROW, UH, AT THE, UM, UH, AT HIS BURIAL AND THEN A RECEPTION AT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER AT 1:00 PM THAT I HOPE, UH, MANY OF YOU CAN JOIN US. AND, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHARE OUR COMPANY STATEMENT. THANK YOU FOR N MEMORIAL. DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE WORDS THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? UH, I'LL JUST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, THE FIRE FAMILY WAS A LONGTIME FRIEND. UM, AND I SERVED WITH JESSE'S FATHER ON THE TIETO BOARD IN THE VERY EARLY DAYS. UH, I THINK JESSE WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD, AND THEN I BECAME PRESIDENT OF THEIR BOARD. AND WE GO BACK A LONG WAYS AND JESSE IS GOING TO BE SORELY MISSED BY SO MANY OF US. OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND DAVID, I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE US A, THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT AND BRIEFING? NO, HE'S GONNA BE INFORMED, I THINK. I THINK HE'S JUST GONNA BE AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE BE AVAILABLE ANY QUESTIONS OKAY. DURING THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. OKAY. I'M HAPPY TO SAY ANYTHING I CAN, BUT, UH, I, I'M JOKING. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. IS OUR NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER HERE, LOUIS? YES. NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER WILL BE SARAH ORONA. SARAH ORONA, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR US? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PERFECTLY. CAN YOU PLEASE TURN ON YOUR VIDEO CAMERA? YES. THANK YOU. RIGHT. UM, I WON'T TAKE UP MUCH OF YOUR TIME. I'M ALSO HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS DURING THE BRIEFING. UM, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, SECOND WHAT DAVID SAID ABOUT, UM, THE TAYA FAMILY. AND JUST TO RECOLLECT THAT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER, WHICH, UH, WE'RE ABOUT TO DISCUSS IS, UM, REALLY PRESENT IN DALLAS BECAUSE OF THE TAYA FAMILY AND THEIR, UM, TIRELESS ACTIVISM OVER THE YEARS. SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A HOME FOR OUR LATINO COMMUNITIES IS IN PART DUE TO THE TIRELESS WORK OF JESSE AYA SR. JESSE JR. AND, UM, AS DAVID SAID, IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT ART, BUT IT IS REALLY, UM, WHAT OUR TWO THEATER COMPANIES EMBODY IS BECAUSE OF THE FOUNDATIONAL WORK THAT THESE FAMILIES DID WITH US. AND THAT IS THAT ART IS A FORM OF ACTIVISM. IT IS A FORM OF SOCIAL COHESION, AND IT IS A FORM OF, UM, SOCIAL RESTITUTION AND JUSTICE. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT JESSE TAPPA JR. STOOD FOR, UM, AT THE CENTER OF WHERE ART ACTIVISM AND, UM, AND COMMUNITY, UH, COME TOGETHER TO UPLIFT EVERYBODY. WHEN THE LATINO COMMUNITY IS UPLIFTED, WHEN THE GAY COMMUNITY IS UPLIFTED, WE ARE ALL UPLIFTED. AND SO, UM, WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL JOIN US TOMORROW AT 1:00 PM AT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER TO SUPPORT, TO SUPPORT AND, UH, THE AYA FAMILY, BUT TO CELEBRATE, UM, THE POWER OF ONE INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE CHANGE IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SARAH. ARE THERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE STATEMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? HEARING NONE, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE BRIEFINGS THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA. WE ARE IN BRIEFING NUMBER TWO, THE UPDATE ON THE L C C RESIDENT COMPANIES. BENJAMIN, GOOD AFTERNOON. BENJAMIN ESPINO, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS CIVIC CULTURE. I'M HERE WITH ROBIS, THE MANAGER OF LATINO CULTURE CENTER, AND I'M HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON THE LATINO CO, UH, CENTER'S RESIDENT COMPANY STATUS. SO WE GO THAT NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AS A BIT OF BACKGROUND, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN HERE SINCE THE PROCESS
SPEAKING BEGAN. SO I WANNA GIVE A LITTLE BIT BRIEF BACKGROUND. ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2019, THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE RESIDENT COMPANY USE AGREEMENT FOR KA AT THEATER COMPANY AT DEATH OR DALLAS. THIS WAS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND. SO AFTER THAT, UM, KA THEATER COMPANY, THEOD DALLAS AND OAC WORKED COLLECTIVELY TO RAISE $500,000 FOR THE MULTI-FORM THEATER SPACE FOR SUPPORTING AREAS FOR BETTERMENTS, INCLUDING A NON LIMITED TO AUDIO VISUAL. THAT GOAL WAS SURPASSED BY APPROXIMATELY $15,000. AND THAT, UM, THOSE FUNDS, IT RAISED IN EXCESS OF $500,000. THE $50,000 CAN BE USED FOR CAPITAL AND MAINTENANCE NEEDS. AND ALSO AS PART OF THAT TO OUR COLLABORATIVE WITH ACADEMY AT DRO DALLAS, IS THAT ALL THREE PARTIES MUST CONCUR USE THE FUNDS. SO LET'S SAY WE NEED A NEW MARLEY FLOOR, UM, HEAD OUT OF THOSE MANAGER WOULD WORK WITH DAVID AND SADA TO SEE IF THAT IS ALSO FITS WITH PRIORITY THAT THEY ALL WILL AGREE ON. SO THAT'S REGARDING THE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN. UM, THE FIRST, UH, RESIDENT, THE RESIDENCY BEGAN OCTOBER 21 AND GOES THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. THIS IS THE DURATION OF THE FIRST FIVE YEAR TERM FOR THE RESIDENT COMPANY AGREEMENT. YOU, YOU'LL SIGNED BY BOTH COMPANIES ON JANUARY 29TH, 2021. THIS ENSURES LONG-TERM RESIDENCY STATUS, RESIDENCY STATUS FOR ACADEMY THEATER COMPANY AND TRO DALLAS, AND ENSURES THEIR GROWTH THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN. THERE ARE ALSO, AS PART OF THAT, THERE ARE ALSO FOUR CONSECUTIVE FOR RENEWAL OLD TERM OPTIONS, FIVE YEARS EACH, TOTALLY 25 YEARS. UM, AND LASTLY, AS I WAS MENTIONED, THEIR, THEIR PRODUCTION QUALITY HAS CONTINUED TO GROW AND AMAZE AUDIENCES. SO THIS ENSURES THAT BOTH CON COMPANIES WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AS REGIONAL, NATIONAL, AND INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED THEATER COMPANIES. NEXT SLIDE. THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT ITSELF IS 57 PAGES LONG, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE, WHAT I CALL THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT. ONE, ACCESS KA THEATER COMPANY IN DEATH OR DALLAS HAVE ACCESS TO RESERVE DATES FOR BOTH THE OAK FARMS DAIRY PERFORMANCE HALL, THE AUDITORIUM, AND THE MULTIFORM THEATER SPACE BEFORE ANY GROUP, EVEN LCC PROGRAM. SO THIS IS THE FIRST GROUP. THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESERVE BOTH THEATERS ALSO BEFORE ANY OTHER GROUP, AND THEY CAN RESERVE BOTH PLACES IN TANDEM. SO DESIRE THAT I THEATER COMPANY MAY RESERVE BETWEEN 12 TO 20 WEEKS PER FISCAL YEAR DURING THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT. THIS ALLOWS 'EM FOR FLEXIBILITY IN SEASON PROGRAM. FOR INSTANCE, IF KA IS DOING A NATIONAL TOUR FOR SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS, THEY GO DOWN TO 12 WEEKS FOR ONE YEAR, AND THEN THEY GO UP TO BACK TO 16 OR 18 WEEKS. UM, LASTLY, UM, KA THEATER COMPANY HAVE ACCESS TO THE RESPECTIVE RE REQUESTED SPACES THAT BEING EITHER THE MULTIFORM THEATER SPACE OR THE OAK FARMS AREA PERFORMANCE HALL. AND ITS ANCILLARY SPACES, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 8:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT. BRENT RENT OR FY 2122 WAS $500 A WEEK. F UH, FY 23 IS $750 A WEEK, FY 24 25. IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS A WEEK. AND FY 25 WAS, IS GOING TO BE, UH, 1,012 HUNDRED 50 PER WEEK. AND AN F Y 26, IT WILL BE $1,500 PER WEEK. MARKETING KAMIA THEATER COMPANY IN DEATH OF DALLAS WILL WORK WITH THE L C C TO DEVELOP A COLLABORATIVE MARKETING PLAN TO PROMOTE KAMIA AND DEATH OF DALLAS'S WONDERFUL PRODUCTIONS EACH FISCAL YEAR, UM, OF THE RESIDENCY. AND THEN ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT IS EVENTS, UM, ACADEMY THEATER COMPANY AND BE DALLAS PROVIDE 10 FREE COMMUNITY BASED EVENTS AT THE CENTER THROUGHOUT THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS, BUT WE FEEL IT'S POSITIVE ABOUT, ABOUT HOW WE ARE MOVE FORWARD IN THE LAST MONTH. SO THESE ARE THE PENDING MATTERS THAT ARE TO BE RESOLVED REGARDING THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT. WE MET ON JUNE 5TH WITH OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, LIZ, UM, CON, CONNIE TANKERSLEY, THE CHIEF OF THE REAL ESTATE OF AND CONSTRUCTION DIVISION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. MILTON HENDERSON, HER DEPUTY AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MYSELF, MARTINE , AND RYAN FLORES, WHO IS THE LCCS, UM, TECHNICAL SUPERVISOR. THE TWO PENDING
ITEMS THAT HAVE HELD UP NOT BEING ABLE TO REACH THE, NOT BEING ABLE TO REACH THE USE AGREEMENT, I'M SORRY, THE PENDING ITEMS THAT WE, THE PENDING MATTERS THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE IS THE USE AGREEMENT. CURRENTLY, THE USE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE USED FOR ACADEMY WAS NOT TAILORED SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM AS RESIDENT THEATER COMPANIES. IT WAS TAILORED FOR GENERAL RENTALS. SO AT THIS MEETING, WE DECIDED THAT INSTEAD OF GOING BACK AND FORTH, AS WE HAVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF TRYING TO TAKE OF HA OF HAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TRY TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE USE AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN TERMS THAT COME OFF AWARDS THAT COME OFF IN LEGAL LANGUAGE AS VERY STRONG, LIKE CONTROL OF PREMISES WHERE IT SAYS THE MANAGER SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UM, I'M PARAPHRASING MANAGER SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UH, CONTROL THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS INDIVIDUAL. SO FOR INSTANCE, WE CAN SOFTEN THAT LANGUAGE TO SOMETHING TO SAY THE MANAGER WORKING WITH RESIDENT COMPANIES, GOTEA THEATER COMPANY AND TERO DALLAS WILL ENSURE THAT FIRE CODE IS MET. SO THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH. SO THESE ARE THE DELIVERABLES THAT WE WILL HAVE. WITH THAT WE WILL MEET IN TWO WEEKS. GOTEA AND ANDROS COUNCIL IS TAKING THE LEAD ON DRAFTING THE USE AGREEMENT TAILORED SPECIFICALLY FOR CATA ANDRO DALLAS AS RESIDENT THEATER COMPANIES. AND THEN THEY WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SECONDLY, A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING FURTHER DEFINITION OF THE PREMISES ACCESS AND ALSO IDENTIFY INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR, FOR PROFESSIONAL THEATER THAT WE'VE NEVER DEFINED IN THE PRESIDENCY AGREEMENT. WE WILL ALSO FINALIZE THE KEY PROTOCOL, WHICH WAS, AS I SAID, WE WOULD AT FIRST THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF RISK MET AND INSTRUMENT, AND OURSELVES AND OUR FORMER DIRECTOR WERE ADAMANT THAT A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE THERE TO HAVE KEY ACCESS. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF RISK MANAGEMENT SO THAT, UM, ACADEMY THEATER COMPANY AND DELTA DALLAS BOTH HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICIES, BUT THEY HIRE AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. SO AS LONG AS THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR IS LISTED ON THE COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE KEY PROTOCOL AND THEY CAN HAVE UP TO THREE KEYS EACH. BECAUSE IT IS NOT FAIR FOR DAVID OR FOR, UM, OR FOR , THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR TO BE THERE 18, 19 HOURS. SO WE FEEL THAT THEIR PRODUCTION STAFF, AS LONG AS THEY, UH, PASS A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK, USUAL CITY STUFF, BUT ALSO ARE LISTED ON THE COMMERCIAL INSURANCE POLICY THAT THEY CAN BE ISSUED A KEY. AND LASTLY, WE WILL, UM, ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF SIGNAGE THAT HAS BEEN A POINT OF, OF A POINT OF, OF WHERE THE SIGNAGE GOES. AND SO WE HAD A VERY POSITIVE TWO HOUR MEETING WITH ADAM AT THE COMPANY AND WE WILL MEET INTO, UH, SECOND WEEK OF JULY IF, UM, TO GO OVER THE USE AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED BY ADAM AND ANGELO'S COUNSEL AND THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BEING DRAFTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I WOULD, UM, IF THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN IT, I WOULD, UM, LIKE FOR DAVID AND ADA TO PLEASE FIRST MAKE REMARKS AND OR QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR FOUR YEARS. YES. NEXT SPEAKER, WE GET TO ASK QUESTIONS. YOU WANNA YES. ASK NOW. YOU WANNA WAIT UNTIL AFTER NEXT SPEAKER? WELL, I WANNA ASK THE QUESTIONS ABOUT, YEAH, NOT ABOUT, I DON'T WANNA ASK THEM QUESTIONS. I WANT TO ASK US QUESTIONS. UM, OKAY, SO, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY. HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT. VICKY, WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE THAT THIS IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT AND YOU'VE ONLY BEEN GIVEN THE HIGHLIGHTS. WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW EACH COMMISSIONER TO ASK THAT THE MOST THREE QUESTIONS EACH. IF SO, TAYLOR, THE THREE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK ABOVE THAT NUMBER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WRITE YOUR QUESTIONS DOWN AND BENJAMIN WILL GET BACK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE GETS THE CORRECT INFORMATION, INFORMATION. IT'S A LEGAL QUESTION THAT IS WHAT CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ASKED US TO DO. RIGHT? BUT ALSO, I I, I WAS SUGGESTING FROM CHAIR POSSIBLE TO HAVE IF DAVID LOZANO AND SARAH, SINCE THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR FOUR YEARS, SINCE I LET THEM SPEAK FIRST OR ANSWER QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT ALLOWED
UNDER, I THINK THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. YES. THINK THERE ARE QUESTIONS DIRECTED TO, YEAH. OKAY. SO YES. SO VICKY, YOUR QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE A QUESTION READY FOR BENJAMIN, RIGHT? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE IS, UM, I KNOW THAT THE, UM, KEY ISSUE HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE. AM I TO, UH, UNDERSTAND, BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, THEY NOW HAVE ACCESS AS THEY WANTED IT FROM WHATEVER THAT JUNE 4TH ME, JUNE 5TH MEETING WAS. THEY DO NOT HAVE A KEY YET. WE WILL FINALIZE A KEY PROTOCOL AT HOPEFULLY BY THAT, UM, THE SECOND WEEK OF JULY MEETING. NO, WHAT I'M ASKING IS THEY HAVE THE ACCESS THAT THEY WANTED. YES, THERE IS ACCESS FROM 8:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK REGARDING THE ISSUE. WE HAD A DRAFT OF THE CREEP KEY PROTOCOL, AND I STRESS THE WORD DRAFT THAT SAID THAT STAFF WOULD ARRIVE AT 9:00 AM AND STAFF WOULD BE OFF AT 10:00 PM SO THAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THAT ISSUE OF LESS TIME FOR THEM TO BE, TO HAVE THE SPACE CAME UP. AGAIN, THAT WAS A DRAFT AND IT'S NO LONGER, THAT IS NOT THE CASE. THEY HAVE ACCESS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK TO MIDNIGHT WITH THE STAFF MEMBER PRESENT. OKAY. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, I I WAS READING THROUGH THE, UM, NOTES AND IT SAID THE RENTS WERE GOING TO EX ESCALATE TO $1,500 A WEEK. WHERE DID WE COME UP WITH THAT FIGURE? THAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THROUGH THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT AND IT'S LISTED IN THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT. SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE AGREED TO THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. YES. THEY, THEY BOTH SIGNED THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT ON JANUARY 29TH. OH, I AM SO SORRY, . I DID NOT FINISH MY BRIEFING. IF WE'LL TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE THAT'LL ANSWER, HOPEFULLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. MY FURTHER UPDATES ON THE RESIDENCY THEATER COMPANIES IS THAT UNDER MANAGER HAS THE ROAD DESK. THEY HAVE ACTIVELY WORKED AND DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH MIA AND DEATH REGARDING THE RESIDENCY AND KAIA, PETER AND DEATH OR DALLAS HAVE BOTH PRODUCED HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL PRODUCTION SINCE NEW MANAGEMENT. AND FOR ALL THE HELPFUL LINKS ARE LISTED HERE, WHICH IS THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION FOR 2019 AND THE RESIDENCY COMPANY AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED BY BOTH KA AT THEATER COMPANY AT DEATH DALLAS ON JANUARY 29TH, 21. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION? HAVE WE FINISHED SECOND QUESTION? WELL, NOT QUITE, BUT, BUT, UM, I'LL, I'LL HEAR FROM KADA AND DAVID ABOUT THEIR, UM, COMMENTS ON THAT. I'M SURE. WELL, LOUIS HELPING YOU IN THE HANDS, WAS COMMISSIONER HALMA THE NEXT SPEAKER? YES. COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU TO HEAR US? YES. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU FOR SENDING THIS IN ADVANCE. UM, AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, TE DALLAS AND KAMIYA ARE SATISFIED, UM, WHEN THEY NEED TO DO THE 10 FREE COMMUNITY EVENTS. ARE THEY HAVING TO TURN AROUND AND PAY THE WEEKLY FEE? NO. UM, OKAY. I, THAT IS NOT THE CASE. USUALLY THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE WEEKS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY'RE PART OF THE, THE USUAL WEEK THAT THEY'RE USING, FOR INSTANCE, FOR DAVID. HE DOES, HE'LL DO, UH, DURING A RUN OF THE OF THE SHOW, HE'LL DO A YOUTH COMMUNITY NIGHT DURING THE RUN OF THE SHOW. SO THAT'S DURING THE WEEK AUCTION. OKAY. AND I, SECOND QUESTION IS KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT VICKY ASKED ABOUT THE RENT. UM, AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE SARAH AND DAVID ARE SATISFIED WITH THIS. IS THAT KEEPING IN LINE WITH OTHER MARKETS, OTHER SISTER COMP, UH, MARKETS THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK TO? UM, CAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S, IT GETS HIGHER AND HIGHER QUICKLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. CURRENTLY, RENT, UM, RENT THE FIRST YEAR WAS $5 AND 55 CENTS AN HOUR BROKEN UP IF YOU TAKE EIGHT FROM 8:00 AM TO 12:00 AM UM, FOR SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, $1,500 A WEEK BY F Y 26 WE BELIEVE IS, IS EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE. WE KNOW THAT OUR LATINX AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO SUCH BEAUTIFUL SPACES. AND IT IS OUR HONOR, AND I THINK AS A CITY I WE SHOULD TAKE GREAT PRIVILEGE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST STATE-OF-THE-ART BLACK BOX RIGHT NOW IN DALLAS THAT IS A HOME OF ACADEMY AND THEATER COMPANY AT DRO DALLAS. SO $1,500 A WEEK ROUGHLY BREAK IN, I'M GONNA TRY TO DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD REAL QUICK. OR IN $1,500 DIVIDED
BY SEVEN DAYS IS ROUGHLY $200 A DAY FOR 16 HOURS OF USAGE. NO, SORRY, 16 HOURS OF USAGE, CORRECT? MM-HMM. , WHICH BREAKS DOWN FURTHER. 200 DIVIDED BY 16. 13. $13 AN HOUR. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER LEY WOULD BE NEXT. I'LL SAY, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A, I JUST HAVE A A ONE CLARIFICATION THAT YOU SAID. THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS FROM 8:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT WITH STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT, BUT SINCE THEY HAVE KEYS, THEY WILL ALSO HAVE ACCESS BEYOND THOSE HOURS. SHOULD THEY BE NECESSARY WITH USING THEIR OWN, UH, LIABILITY INSURANCE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTED ON THE KEY PROTOCOL? CORRECT. THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTED ON THE LIABILITY INSURANCE. OKAY. FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE PRODUCTION. OKAY. AND YES, THAT KEY WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THEM. PERFECT. OKAY. AND THEN IF I MAY POINT OUT AT THAT POINT, WHENEVER ACADEMY OF THEATER COMPANY OR RO DALLAS IS, IS USING THE BUILDING DURING AFTER HOUR USAGE, THEY ASSUME LIABILITY FOR THE BUILDING. SO IT IS WITH PRIVILEGE ALSO COMES RESPONSIBILITIES AFTER THE, AFTER THE 8:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT HOURS. CORRECT. GOT IT. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT'S 10:00 AM FOR STAFF. NO, 8:00 AM I MEAN, 10:00 PM FOR STAFF. KEY PROTOCOL UNDER KEY PROTOCOL. IT WOULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE 10:00 PM BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, BUT THEY CAN STAY IN YES. AND THEIR INSURANCE COVERS. CORRECT. SO THAT'S REALLY, AND WILL THE 12TH AND WILL THE STAFF BE AVAILABLE FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE IS A, UM, CUZ FOR REHEARSALS AND THINGS, THAT SEEMS TOTALLY SUFFICIENT. HOWEVER, IF THERE WAS A PRODUCTION HAPPENING WITH THE PUBLIC OR IN THE BUILDING AND THE, LET'S SAY THE PRODUCTION GOES FROM SEVEN 30 TO NINE 30, IT'S POSSIBLE YOU MIGHT HAVE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC IN THE BUILDING PAST 10. WILL THE STAFF BE AVAILABLE STAFF WHENEVER THE BUILDING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITH NO, WE USUALLY HAVE TWO STAFF. YEP. OKAY. IT HAS TO BE TWO STAFF. SO STAFF MEMBERS WILL BE PRESENT PAST 10 IF IT'S A PRODUCTION THING. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE FORESEE AN, WE ALL KNOW IT'S USUALLY LOADED AND TECH THAT IS REALLY, I'M LOOKING AT OUR RESIDENT TECHNICAL THEATER WHO, WHO REQUEST TO TO AGREE WITH ME. YES. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAY THERE TILL ONE OR 2:00 AM A SENIOR DESIGNER, A LIGHTING, LIGHTING DESIGNER SET DESIGNER FINDS THAT I'M INSPIRATION AND THEY JUST NEED TO LOOK 30. AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. I HAVE TWO MORE QUICK QUESTIONS. UM, UH, REALLY QUICK. SO WHY ARE, WHY IS THERE A SEPARATE MEMOR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BEING DRAFTED FROM THE USE AGREEMENT? WHY WOULD THOSE NOT BE DONE IN TANDEM ON THE SAME DOCUMENT? CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE USE AGREEMENT WOULD INCLUDE ACCESS KEY PROTOCOL. I GUESS THE SIGNAGE LOCATION MAY BE SEPARATE. UM, ALTHOUGH THAT SHOULD MAYBE GO WITH THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT. IF WE, IF WE DO NOT DO AN MOU WHERE WE SPELL THESE ITEMS OUT, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE PROCESS BACK TO COUNCIL AND START THE RESIDENCY AGREEMENT PROCESS AGAIN. SO THAT'S, I SEE. OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. SO THAT'S GONNA BE AN ADDENDUM BASICALLY. AND THAT'LL BE, AND YOU WILL WORK WITH THE, THE TWO RESIDENT COMPANIES AS FAR AS THE LANGUAGE IN THE M O U? CORRECT. AND HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE THEY PLANNING ON IDENTIFYING INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR PROFESSIONAL THEATER? WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET? WE HAVE ASKED SHIP THEATER COMPANY TO HELP US FIND, UM, AND DALLAS, SORRY, GOT DALLAS THERE. WE KNOW OF TWO, UH, MUNICIPALLY OWNED COMPLEX ARTS COMPLEX, UM, IN THE BRONX. THERE'S , UM, THEATER. IT'S, UH, UH, PUERTO RICAN RICAN THEATER COMPANY. AND I FORGET THE NAME OF THE THEATER COMPANY IN LOS ANGELES, BUT, BUT DAVID CAN ADDRESS THAT IN A MINUTE. OKAY. AND SEE WHAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ISSUES. THIS WAS, THIS WAS ALL NEW TO US. WE HAD NEVER DONE THIS. YEAH. WE HAD NEVER HAD IN A CITY OWNED CITY MANAGEMENT FACILITY, WE'VE HAD OBVIOUSLY PRIVATE MANAGED FACILITIES LIKE THE KALETA HUMPHREYS WHERE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM WHERE THEY ARE MANAGING THE CITY FACILITY. BUT THIS IS A CITY MANAGE, CITY OWNED, CITY MANAGE FACILITY WITH THE RESIDENT COMPANY. SO I'D LIKE TO REFER TO THEM AS GROWING PAINS AND, BUT I FEEL THAT AFTER THE MEETING ON JUNE 5TH, THAT ALL OF US CAME AWAY FEELING THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THIS RESOLVED. SO THERE'S NO LIKE, REAL INDUSTRY STANDARD. I IMAGINE IT VARIES BY LOCATION AND BY VENUE, BUT BUT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY RIGHT, WHAT THE STANDARDS WILL BE FOR
THIS FACILITY? CORRECT. BECAUSE FOR INSTANCE, LEAGUE OF REGIONAL THEATERS IS THE LARGER, LARGER THEATERS. LIKE DOW CEDAR CENTER IS A MEMBER OF REGIONAL THEATERS BY LORD STANDARDS. CORRECT. ME, LAUREN. LAUREN, LINDA. UH, THEATER PERSONNEL ARE OFF ON MONDAYS PERIOD. RIGHT. UM, ACTORS ARE OFF AND STAGE MANAGERS ARE OFF ON, BUT ONLY ACTORS AND STAGE MANAGERS. OKAY. WE'RE TRYING TO FI WE'RE TRYING TO FIND AN APPLE TO COMPARE AS OPPOSED TO AN ORANGE, WHICH IS KALEIDA. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, WHAT'S THE TARGET DATE TO HAVE THIS, THIS BOTH OF THESE DONE AND SIGNED BY THE END OF AUGUST? END OF AUGUST? SO LIKE TWO, LIKE LET'S JUNE, TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. YOU THINK THAT, YOU THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT TIME EVEN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? I FEEL THAT GET EVERYTHING DONE? YES. I FEEL THAT WE ALL CAME AWAY FEELING MUCH BETTER AFTER THIS MEETING WHERE WE TALKED, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE PENDING MATTERS. OKAY. WE SPENT TWO, UH, TWO HOURS, PROBABLY 15 MINUTES TOGETHER. CAN, CAN I THEN REQUEST THAT WE, JUST AS PART OF OUR NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS, GET AN UPDATE ON THIS JUST AS A BRIEFING JUST TO, WE'LL HAVE A MEETING THE CHAIR. RIGHT? I KNOW. SO WHENEVER OUR NEXT MEETING IS HOPE, WHICH RIGHT. AUGUST, AUGUST. SO WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON IT AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND JUST KIND OF, JUST SO THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO. AWESOME. THANK YOU, JACKSON. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UM, ON THE KEY PROTOCOL, THERE WILL BE MORE THAN ONE PERSON FROM EACH COMPANY THAT WILL BE ON THE PROTOCOL. IT'LL BE THREE KEYS PER COMPANY. THREE KEYS. OKAY. AND ANY PERSON THAT'S ON THEIR INSURANCE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THOSE KEYS TO ACCESS THE BUILDING. YES. PIGGYBACKING ON THAT, THREE KEYS PER THEATER PER PRODUCTION. SO IF A STAGE, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT STAGE MANAGER IN PRODUCTION ONE THAN YOU HAVE IN PRODUCTION TWO, CAN THAT TRANSFER? YOU JUST UPDATE THE COMMERCIAL LIABILITY POLICY. SO YOU JUST UPDATE THE, UPDATE THE LIABILITY, AND THEN YOU CAN YEP. THREE PEOPLE AS YOU CHOOSE. AS LONG AS THEY'RE ON THE, ON THE LIABILITY. OKAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THE MONDAY OFF IS A SORT OF HARD AND FAST RULE, BUT YOU CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THE UNION TO CHANGE THAT IF IT'S NECESSARY FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. BUT THAT'S UNION AND THEY'RE NOT THERE YET. BUT HOPEFULLY WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND THEIR ABILITY TO PRODUCE IN A PROFESSIONAL WAY, THEY MAY COME TO THAT STATE AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR US, FOR EVERYBODY. COMMISSIONER? YES. UH, YES. I, I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT ALL PARTIES ARE SATISFIED. UH, BUT CAN WE HEAR FROM THE OTHER PARTIES? ? THAT'S ALL. WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST? HE'S ASKED FOR ONE OF THE OTHER PERSONS TO DAVID. DAVID? HELLO. UM, I, I HAVE TO SAY, I I, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE, OF THE CITY STOP ON WORKING WITH US. UH, WE ARE NOT YET SATISFIED. UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR FOUR YEARS AND WE DON'T HAVE A USE AGREEMENT. SO, UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE WHAT WE NEED YET. UM, SO WE STILL NEED TO WORK OUT THE ARRANGEMENTS, UM, AND ASSURE THAT WE HAVE THE HOURS, WE HAVE THE STAFF SUPPORT WE NEED. UM, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD HOPE THAT STAFF COULD STAY UNTIL 11:00 PM UM, UH, UH, I THINK THAT, UM, UH, THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'LL NEED TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT WE CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION AND WE DO FINISH THE USE AGREEMENT IN AUGUST. UM, SO I, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT I'M, I THINK THE LAST MEETING WAS PROMISING, BUT I THINK WE, UM, WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHAT WAS SAID. I WOULD ALSO SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT PRECEDENTS FOR RESIDENT AGREEMENTS. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT, UM, WHAT'S CONSISTENT IS THAT, UH, THEATERS HAVE KEYS. UM, THEY HAVE ACCESS, UH, AROUND THE CLOCK. AND QUITE FRANKLY, UH, I E EVEN THOUGH WE DID SIGN THE CONTRACT WITH RENT, ONE OF THE CONSISTENT PIECES AROUND RENT, UH, IS ACTUALLY RESIDENTS DON'T PAY RENT. SO, UM, THAT'S ONE, THAT'S ONE CONSISTENCY. SO, UM, WE AGREED TO IT. IT WAS A TOUGH NEGOTIATION. SO, UM, WE'RE LIVING WITH IT, BUT WE, YOU KNOW,
IT'S, UM, IT'S, IT DOES GET EXPENSIVE FOR GROUPS OUR SIZE. I THINK THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY. SARAH? SARAH? SARAH? YES. THANK YOU. UM, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD JUST, UM, A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS TO, UH, FLESH OUT WHAT, UM, BENJAMIN WAS DISCUSSING. UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, PROFESSIONAL THEATER STANDARDS, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT COMPLICATED. UM, THIS IDEA OF APPLES TO ORANGES WOULD SUGGEST, UH, INEQUITY PROFESSIONAL THEATER STANDARDS, OR PROFESSIONAL THEATER STANDARDS. UM, AND I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF HAVING PROFESSIONAL THEATER COMPANIES IN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY FUNCTIONING MORE AS A, AS A CULTURAL CENTER, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH MORE, WITH LIMITED HOURS, IS THAT NOW THESE RESIDENCIES, UH, REQUIRE THAT, UM, WE, UM, LOOK AT THE WAYS IN WHICH THE CENTER CAN COME UP TO SPEED AND WORK WITH US TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENCIES. SO I FEEL THAT OUR THEATER COMPANIES HAVE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN TERMS OF RAISING FUNDS. UM, AND I WILL SAY THAT PART OF THIS WHOLE SITUATION WITH THE RENT WAS PRECISELY BECAUSE IT WAS COUCHED TO US FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO AS AN APPLES TO ORANGES. IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN IT WAS NECESSARY, WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO THINK ABOUT THE RESIDENCY IN TERMS OF WHAT OTHER GROUPS LIKE THE DALLAS THEATER CENTER AT THE KALETA HUMPHREYS DID. WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE, UH, WE SHOULD RAISE FUNDS FOR THE FACILITY IN ORDER TO BE LIKE OTHER RESIDENT COMPANIES IN, UM, SPACES THAT THEY MANAGED. AND WHILE WE HAD NO INTENTION OF MANAGING THE L C C, I DO FEEL THAT WE WERE, UH, GIVEN CONDITIONS THAT WERE MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT, UM, THOSE, THOSE BIG INSTITUTIONS, THOSE LTE THEATERS, DO, THEY RAISE MONEY. UM, AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THE DTC WAS PAYING A DOLLAR RENT. AND WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT UP, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY, WE TRIED TO, TO FIGHT FOR. BUT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, UM, KIND OF PUT IN THIS SITUATION WHERE WE ARE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE WAY IN WHICH FUNDS ARE, UH, USED AT THE LCC TO GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE HAD UNDERSTOOD THAT AS A CITY FACILITY, UM, RENT WAS SOMETHING THAT OTHER GROUPS WERE DOING. AND SO IT WAS A VERY CONFUSING SITUATION FOR US, I THINK MOVING FORWARD, SINCE, AS DAVID SAID, WE ARE NOW, WE HAVE SIGNED THAT AGREEMENT. UH, WE'RE IN THIS PROCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE ONE IMPORTANT THING WOULD BE RECOGNIZING THAT PROFESSIONAL THEATER STANDARDS SHOULD BE THE SAME REGARDLESS, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER WE ARE AT THE L CCC OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER GROUPS WHO ARE IN, IN OTHER TYPES OF BUILDINGS. UM, IN ORDER TO CREATE THEATER AT THAT LEVEL, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE STAFF THERE. UH, WE WERE, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING, WE'RE NOT THERE FOR 16 HOURS EVERY SINGLE DAY. I THINK THAT THE, THE, UH, SPREAD FROM 8:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT WAS TO ENCOMPASS THE VARIETY OF PROGRAMS WE DO. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, DAVID MIGHT COME IN, UH, WITH GOD DO SOMETHING FOR YOUTH IN THE MORNING, AND THEY NEED TO COME IN AT 8:00 AM IT'S VERY RARE THAT HE'S PROBABLY, OR WE'D BE DOING SOMETHING FROM 8:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE A SHOW THAT ENDS AT 11, AND WE, WE WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BE THERE BECAUSE, UM, WE SHOULD NOT BE LEFT ALONE WITH THE PUBLIC IN THAT TYPE OF FACILITY. SO I THINK THERE ARE CHALLENGES, UH, BUT THE PROFESSIONAL THEATER STANDARDS SHOULD BE UNIVERSAL, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP IN THE, UM, IN THE MEMORANDUM. THE MOU IS TO OUTLINE WHAT THAT MEANS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, CREATE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS ANY OTHER THEATER COMPANY HERE IN DALLAS. THANK YOU. IF, IF I MAY STRESS, WHENEVER THE BUILDING IS OPEN TO A PUBLIC, THERE WILL BE AT LEAST TWO STAFF PEOPLE IN BY POLICY THERE WHENEVER THERE'S A PRODUCTION GOING ON, A PERFORMANCE, A REHEARS, UH, AFTER HOURS USAGE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DAVID ORTA IS MOST NET NEEDED DURING LOAD IN AND TECH AND REHEARSAL. JUST GAVE AN EXAMPLE, COULD POSSIBLY COMMISSIONER SCH SMALL. DID YOU HAVE THAT? YES, I DID. YES I DID. UM, AND
THIS QUESTION GOES UP TO BEN AS WELL AS, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OPERATION COMPANIES. WHEN THEY LOOK AT STAFFING AND ACCESS THOSE KIND OF GO TOGETHER, UH, DOES THE STAFFING INCLUDE AUDIO AND LIGHTING, UH, PERSONNEL, UH, AS WELL AS THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT? YES. SO THAT ALL THE TIME THEY'RE THERE, THEY HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN RUN PRO AUDIO FOR THEM AND SOMEONE THAT CAN DO THE LIGHTING AND THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH THE STAFFING AND THE EQUIPMENT. DURING, UH, REHEARSAL AND TECH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS, UH, UH, IT IS ONE OF OUR TECHS THAT IS THERE AND ALSO SPEAK TO THAT. IS THAT HELPFUL? MM-HMM. ? YES. OKAY. UH, I WOULD, SO THE, UM, THE TECHNICIANS, UH, PROVIDE SUPPORT WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. PRIMARILY OUR TECHNICIANS, UM, UH, MANAGE OUR PRODUCTIONS AND MANAGE OUR TECH TECHNICAL NEEDS. AND WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE USUALLY RELY ON THE TECH TECHNICIANS TO, UM, SUPPORT THAT. UM, UH, AND, AND, AND SO IT'S, IT'S VALUABLE TO HAVE TECHNICIANS THERE. AND I WOULD SAY THAT AS A POLICY, JUST FOR ALL THEATERS, LIKE SADA WAS SPEAKING TO THAT, UM, THAT STAFF ARE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE BUILD, IF STAFF LEAVES AT 10, THERE'S A CHALLENGE. IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER THEATER, UH, AND FOR THEM TO PRODUCE PROFESSIONAL THEATER, THEY WOULD MOST LIKELY NEED TO STAY AFTER 10. CAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY A, A LOCAL STANDARD OF PRODUCE, OF REHEARSING UNTIL, UM, 10 30. SO, UM, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT HAVING STAFF THERE UNTIL 11 IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. UM, AND, UM, BUT BEYOND THOSE HOURS, I THINK, UM, UH, I MEAN, WE HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL TECHNICIANS THAT CAN HANDLE THE EQUIPMENT. IT'S ONLY WHEN IN THESE UNIQUE CASES WHEN A, UM, WHAT WE CALL THE NETWORK THAT CONNECTS THE, UH, THE, THE LIGHT AND SOUNDBOARDS TO A, UH, UNIFIED NETWORK THAT ALLOW IT, ALLOW US TO MANAGE IT MORE EASILY. SOMETIMES THAT PASSWORD EXPIRES AND WE NEED TO INPUT THE PASSWORD AGAIN, SOMETIMES WE NEED THE SUPPORT OF THE TECHNICIANS FOR THAT. UM, SOMETIMES THERE ARE STRANGE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITH, UM, UH, UH, THE, THE MACHINERY, THE LEC ELECTRICITY, UM, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY RARE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, OUR TECH TECHNICIANS ARE PROFESSIONAL AND CAN MANAGE THE, THE EQUIPMENT, UM, UH, AFTER HOURS, UH, IN THOSE CASES IN WHICH WE MAY NEED TO STAY AFTER CHAIRWOMAN COMMISSIONER ALMO AS HIS HANDOFF. COMMISSIONER ALMO. THANK YOU. UM, SO IT SEEMED THAT BENJAMIN, YOU GAVE A VERY GOOD POSITIVE UPDATE, WHICH WAS GOOD. AND THEN DAVID AND SARAH, YOU GUYS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO EXPRESS SOME MORE FRUSTRATION, SOME MORE CONCERN, SOME MORE DETAILS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. WHAT HAS THE CITY OAC SAID ABOUT WHY YOU CANNOT BECOME A MANAGEMENT ENTITY OF THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER? UM, IT, WE, THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER IS A CITY OWNED, CITY MANAGED FACILITY. UM, AND IT IS ONE OF OUR BELOVED FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CULTURAL CENTERS. AND I DON'T FORESEE THAT CHANGING. OKAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE QUESTION. I KNOW WHAT IT IS. UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, SO IS THE WIND SPEAR, THE WILEY, THE HIRED SON, THE, THE KTA HUMPHREYS? I MEAN, I YET WE'VE GOT MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENTS, I SHOULD SAY, JUST LIKE THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART. CORRECT. SO CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? BECAUSE I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD. SO WHY HASN'T A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND ENTERTAINED WITH KAMIA AND THERO DALLAS FOR THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER, UM, IN THAT HYPOTHE HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, KAMIA THEATER COMPANY AT THEATRO DALLAS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, ALL BUILDING MAINTENANCE, UPKEEP, USE. LAST YEAR'S ALLOCATION WAS UTILITIES. ANN CAN HELP ME, WHAT ELSE AM I MISSING? UTILITIES, INSURANCE REPAIR PROGRAMMING, LANDSCAPING MAINTENANCE. EXACTLY. LOT. AND IT'S ONE OF, AND IT IS A CITY OWNED, CITY MANAGE CULTURAL FACILITY, CULTURAL CENTER. AND I DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING UNLESS OUR DIRECTOR AND,
UM, THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO MOVE, MOVE THE, THAT FORWARD WE'RE DISCUSSING IS A RESIDENT THEATER ORGANIZATION. YEP. AND THAT'S JUST THAT NOT A PRIVATE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT. COMMISSIONER ILLA VICKY, OH, SORRY. I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION BECAUSE WHERE WE HAVE THE THEATER CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WHAT THEY PAY IN RENT, THEIR AGREEMENT IS NOT A RESIDENT THEATER AGREEMENT. THEIR AGREEMENT IS AN OPERATOR AGREEMENT. SO ISN'T IT, ISN'T THE THE SAME, BUT I DO AGREE WITH WHAT THE THEATER COMPANIES DID SAY THAT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO SAY, GOING FORWARD, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS WE ARE GOING TO DO. UM, BECAUSE IT DOES, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE IS, I MEAN, FROM SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OPERATING AND RESIDENT AND WHATEVER ELSE WE HAVE, IT COULD LOOK LIKE THERE IS SOME INEQUITY. UM, AND, AND, AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO TREAD VERY CAREFULLY ON, ON HOW THIS IS COMMUNICATED, BECAUSE IT WASN'T UNTIL COMMISSIONER HAMO POINTED THAT OUT THAT IT, A LIGHT WENT OFF IN MY HEAD THAT IT'S, OH, IT'S TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE, SEPARATE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSION ME. YEAH, I JUST WANNA GIVE SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT BECAUSE IN THE VERY EARLY DAYS OF THE, UM, LATINO CULTURAL CENTER, IN FACT, DID WANT TO MANAGE THE BUILDING AND THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED. UM, SO THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME INEQUITY THERE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WAS HANDLED. I MEAN, GOING FORWARD, OF COURSE, MANY THINGS CHANGED AND THAT ATTITUDE CHANGED AS WELL BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GET THE SAME SUPPORT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN HAD THEY BEEN A MANAGEMENT COMPANY. UM, I WILL ALSO ADD TO THAT, THAT IF YOU RECALL FOR MANY DECADES, THE SYMPHONY OPERATED AT THE MYERSON AND WE STAFFED IT. THAT WAS THE CITY FACILITY STAFFED BY CITY WORKERS. IT'S ONLY RECENTLY THAT THEY'VE BEGUN TO MANAGE IT AS THEMSELVES BEING, YOU KNOW, THE SYMPHONY BEING. SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE PRECEDENT FOR HAVING A VERY LOW RENT, HAVING A COMPANY IN RESIDENCE WITH THE CITY STAFF. WE DO HAVE PRECEDENTS FOR THAT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S AN OUT OF THE BLUE CAN'T BE DONE, THAT KIND OF THING. IT'S A QUESTION. I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH THIS WHEN WE DEAL WITH OUR EQUITY ISSUES. THAT'S WHAT I THINK ONE, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT DOES EQUITY REALLY LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT SMALLER, MID-SIZE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS IN THE SAME WAYS THAT SOME LARGER, UM, PRIMARILY WHITE INSTITUTIONS HAVE PERMISSION? LON? I JUST HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION, AND IT'S DIRECTED, I GUESS PROBABLY AT BOTH THE RESIDENT ACTING COMPANIES AND THE, AND THE STAFF BECAUSE, UM, IT, I WANT TO BE, BE ARTICULATE IN THE WAY THAT I, THAT I PHRASE THIS. UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON, AND I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE RESIDENT ACTING COMPANIES, IF THEY FEEL LIKE WE ARE AND FROM OAC, IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ABSOLUTELY WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON EQUITY. BUT THE PRIMARY THING IS THAT ARE WE, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE WORK THAT WE DO AS AN ARTS COMMISSION IS THE END PRODUCT THAT THESE TWO INCREDIBLE ORGANIZATIONS ARE DELIVERING TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IF I'VE LEARNED ONE THING IN THE COURSE OF BEING ON THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE AND ON THIS COMMISSION, IS THAT ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL. AND SO I THINK WE, I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE THE OFFICE TO BE BROAD IN THEIR THINKING IN TERMS OF NOT, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, OR WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A CULTURAL CENTER, OR YOU'RE NOT THE DALLAS THEATER CENTER, OR YOU'RE NOT THE DMA, BUT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, UM, I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS NOT PREVENT ART, BUT PROMOTE ART AND HELP IT GET MADE. AND SO I, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT INSURANCE AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE CITY LAWYERS, BUT I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM THE OFFICE. I HOPE THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE ARE APPROACHING OUR, UH, IT ALWAYS, IT KIND OF HURTS MY HEART ACTUALLY TO HEAR THE WORD NEGOTIATION, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THESE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE
I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE A COLLABORATION. A A NEGOTIATION SUGGESTS THAT WE ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES. AND I FEEL LIKE IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, TEATRO, DALLAS, CARIA AND OAC ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE, IN THAT WE WANT TO DELIVER THIS PRODUCT TO THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS. AND I GUESS MY RELATED QUESTION TO THE, UM, ARTS ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE, DO YOU FEEL WE ARE APPROACHING IT THAT WAY? AND IF NOT, HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN, WHAT SORT OF PIVOT WE NEED TO MAKE? UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T FIND THESE COMPARISONS TO BE AS PRODUCTIVE AS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THE TWO RESIDENT ACTING COMPANIES NEED IN THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER AND HOW WE CAN GIVE IT TO THEM. AND TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE BARRIERS THAT PREVENT US FROM GIVING IT HOW WE CAN FAIRLY EQUITABLY TRY TO REMOVE THOSE BARRIERS. I HOPE THAT THAT QUESTION MADE SENSE, BECAUSE THERE IS A QUESTION IN THERE. . OH, I, I HEAR YOU. MICKEY, UH, GO FIRST STATE. OKAY. I, I, I HEAR YOU, MICKEY. I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RESONANT FOR US. AND ONE IS, UM, IS THERE A VISION FOR A RESIDENT THEATER COMPANY? AND, AND I THINK THAT WE'VE STRUGGLED TO, TO FIND THIS AGREEMENT, FINALIZE THIS AGREEMENT, BECAUSE I'M AFRAID THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A, A SHARED VISION FOR WHAT RESIDENT THEATER COMPANIES NEED AT THE L C C. AND SO I THINK THAT, THAT WE'VE THEN BEEN, UM, STRUGGLING AND, UH, TO, TO FI TO FIND, UH, THE, THE COMMON VISION. AND SO THAT, THAT HAS LED TOPOL DISPARATE POLICIES THAT DO NOT REFLECT, UM, OUR ACCESS NEEDS. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THIS, I I THINK IT'S ALSO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING, WE WE'RE AS, AS RESIDENT COMPANIES, WE'RE ALSO INTERESTED IN THE ENTIRE CENTER. I MEAN, PART OF KAMIR THEATER'S STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO HELP CREATE A CULTURAL CENTER EXPERIENCE AT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER. AND IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO OUR LATIN FESTIVAL, OUR OPENING KICK KICKOFF IS A FREE EVENT IN WHICH WE HAVE, WE USE AS MUCH OF THE SPACES IN THE, IN THE CENTER AS POSSIBLE, INCLUDING THE PLAZA, THE OUTDOOR COURTYARD FOR MUSIC, THE PLAZA FOR OUTDOOR PERFORMANCES, UH, THE LOBBY, THE THEATER FOR ALL KINDS OF EVENTS. SO WE'RE INTERESTED IN THE OVERALL COMMUNITY THAT'S BUILT. AND SO FOR US AS A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, IT ALSO MEANS, UM, PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THEATERS. UM, SO IT MEANS BEING EQUITABLE TO ALL THEATERS, AND IN THAT WAY PROVIDING HOURS OF ACCESS WITH STAFF THAT A GROUP SMALLER THAN US CAN REHEARSE UNTIL 10 30 OR 11. UM, AND SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND IF THE CENTER DOESN'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES, I THINK THE, THE CITY SHOULD PROVIDE IT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY THE VISION IS SO IMPORTANT. IF WE HAD HAD THE VISION, RIGHT, WE COULD HAVE MADE A PLAN TO RESOURCE TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES THROUGH THE AGREEMENTS AND RE RESOURCES THROUGH STAFFING AND, UM, AND, AND, UH, CAPITAL GOODS AS WELL AS WITH POLICY. BUT WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH A VISION. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN, UM, ON A, HAVE BEEN OPERATING ON AN AD HOC BASIS WHEN IT COMES TO A VISION FOR RESIDENT COMPANIES AND A VISION AS A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. WE'RE NOT THERE YET. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THERE. DOES THAT HELP, MICKEY? IT'S VERY HELPFUL AND, AND I, IT'S PROBABLY NOT FOR THIS MEETING TODAY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR BOTH YOUR THOUGHTS AND, UM, UH, SARAH SAW THOUGHTS AND, AND WHOEVER, WHETHER IT'S BENJAMIN OR SOMEONE ELSE WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, I, IT THAT STARTING WITH A VISION AND EVERYBODY BEING ON THE SAME PAGE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND I REALIZE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GET TO GO FOR THE CONTRACTS THIS YEAR SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN OPERATE. UM, BUT AGAIN, IN MY TIME ON THE COMMISSION, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO GET THINGS OPERATING. BUT WE'VE TAKEN A STEP BACK, UM, WITH THE EQUITY, UH, COMMITTEE THAT, UH, VICKY IS CHAIRING WITH THE REPORTS COMMITTEE. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE OFFICE AND BOTH OF THE COMPANIES TO THINK, BOTH OF THE COMPANIES TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR ASK IS, AND FOR OUR OFFICE TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT STEP BACK WE NEED TO TAKE SO THAT WE DO HAVE A VISION THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING TOWARD. AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO NOT COME TO A MEETING LIKE THIS AGAIN AND BE TALKING ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS. REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT WORD BE CHANGED. IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME FOR US TO BE ON OPPOSITE SIDES. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE SAME SIDE. VICKY, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THAT. UM, I, I WANNA JUST ADD A FEW THOUGHTS
TO WHAT DAVID, UM, SAID. AND I WILL TRY NOT TO GO TOO LONG BECAUSE I, IT'S JUST, UH, IMPORTANT TO ME THOUGH TO SUGGEST A COUPLE THINGS AS TO WHY GETTING THIS RIGHT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE, OBVIOUSLY FOR THE THEATER COMPANIES TO FUNCTION PROFESSIONALLY. BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, UH, CITY TO, UM, TO FINALIZE WHAT IT, WHAT A RESIDENCY LOOKS LIKE. BECAUSE ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RENEWAL TERMS THROUGH 25 YEARS, AND THE IDEA WAS, RATHER THAN BEING AFRAID THAT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT WANNA REPLICATE THIS, CUZ I HAVE HEARD THIS LIKE, WELL, IF WE GIVE YOU THIS, SOMEONE ELSE WILL WANT IT. IN FACT, THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY. WHAT IF THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS VISIONARY, HAD A RESIDENCY STRUCTURE THAT'S CLEARLY DEFINED BECAUSE EQUITY IS ABOUT HAVING TRANSPARENCY ACROSS THE BOARD SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT A RESIDENCY SOUNDS LIKE, LOOKS LIKE, AND FUNCTIONS LIKE. AND THEN PERHAPS IN 25 YEARS AS OTHER GROUPS THAT, UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT KAIA AND PATRO DALLAS HELP INCUBATE, AND I WANNA GET BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND. UM, THAT PERHAPS OTHER GROUPS AS THEY'RE COMING UP, THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY SO THAT THE L LCC TRULY BECOMES AN INCUBATOR OF, OF, UM, ARTS ORGANIZATIONS. BUT I THINK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH TRANSPARENCY. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR THEATER COMPANIES THAT WE NOT BE PITTED AGAINST OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE UNDER CERTAIN INSTANCES, I HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER FOLKS THAT IT IS TELEGRAPHED THAT WE ARE TAKING ALL THE DATES AND THAT OTHER GROUPS CAN'T GET IN BECAUSE WE'RE THERE. AND AND THIS IS VERY TROUBLING, UM, FOR US BECAUSE, UH, OF TWO THINGS. ONE, WE BROUGHT SOMETHING TO THE TABLE THAT BENEFITS ALL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEING TELEGRAPHED. UM, BY PARTICIPATING IN A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN, BY SPENDING FOUR YEARS OF NEGOTIATIONS BY TAN DALLAS SPENDING ALMOST $20,000 IN A ATTORNEY FEES, WHICH IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT FOR SMALL ARTS ORGANIZATION, THERE'S NO REASON WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTORNEY FEES. BUT WE ARE DOING ALL OF THIS BECAUSE WE WANNA HELP OUR ARTS COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR THEATER. THAT BLACK BOX IS OUTFITTED NOW FOR OTHER ARTS GROUPS TO USE. AND I WOULD LIKE OTHER ARTS GROUPS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE HELPED MAKE THAT HAPPEN. NOT BECAUSE WE ARE HOGGING ALL THE SPACE OR STANDING IN THEIR WAY. AND FURTHERMORE, SO MANY OF THE ARTISTS WHO WORK AT THE L CCC HAVE HAD THEIR FIRST OPPORTUNITIES ON OUR STAGES. SO I REALLY, REALLY WOULD LIKE TO FLIP THE MESSAGING AND HAVE THE L C C STAFF AND THE O AAC NOT ONLY JUST DO THE, THE WORK WITH US TO CREATE THE RESIDENCY, UH, USE AGREEMENT AND THIS RESIDENCY, BUT ACTUALLY TO HELP TELEGRAPH WHAT THAT MEANS, WHY THIS IS BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY, AND HOW THIS ACTUALLY BENEFITS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS LIKE A TIDE. WE ALL BENEFIT FROM IT, IT ALL GOES UP, UM, WHEN WE'RE TOGETHER. AND, UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THESE RESIDENCIES AS INCUBATORS, AS GROUNDBREAKING AS SOMETHING THAT IS FORWARD AND FUTURE, UH, FACING. AND THAT IT ACTUALLY OPENS THE DOOR FOR MORE, UH, POSSIBILITIES FOR OTHER GROUPS. NOT THAT WE'RE IT, AND THEN THE DOOR SHUTS. SO THAT, THAT'S MY FEELING AS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AS AN ARTS ACTIVIST, I, I WOULD SAY, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED THAT. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS, YOUR INPUTS DULY NOTED. UH, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CALL TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, WILL YOU PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND THOSE TO MARTIN OR BENJAMIN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE CUZ WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REVISIT THIS SUBJECT AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE UPDATE ON PUBLIC ART PIECE. YOU HERE. OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD AFTERNOON. SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, UM, THE, UM, KIND OF INTRODUCTORY SLIDE IF YOU ARE NEW TO THIS PROJECT. UM, THIS, THE, UM, SHADOW LINES BY RESEARCH STUDIO IS A MEMORIAL TO VICTIMS OF RACIAL
VIOLENCE IN DALLAS. IT IS MEANT TO BE A SPACE FOR REFLECTION, UM, CONVERSATION AND PUBLIC COMMEMORATION TO VICTIMS THAT HAVE, UM, THAT, UH, TO VICTIMS OF RACIAL VIOLENCE. AND SO I WANTED TO BRING YOU ALL AN UPDATE. WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS ON THE PROJECT. UM, WE CAN HAPPILY REPORT, WE HAVE ENTERED THE FABRICATION PHASE, UM, OF THE PROJECT AND THE ARTISTS AND THEIR PROJECT ORGANIZATION, OR THEIR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS GIVEN US A PLANNED INSTALLATION FOR THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. WE HAVE BEGUN, UM, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ROAD CLOSURES AND LOGISTICS IN PREPARATION OF THIS INSTALLATION ALREADY, SO THAT EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE PIECE, UM, THIS FALL. UM, AND SO ONCE THE PIECE GOES IN, PARKS HAS COMMITTED TO REMEDIATE THE PARK IN ORDER TO MAKE IT A WELCOMING, UH, SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS TO DALLAS. AND SO ONCE THE INSTALLATION IS COMPLETE, THEN PARKS AND RECREATION WILL COME IN, WE'LL TURN OVER THE SITE TO THEM AND, UM, THEY'LL HAVE APPROXIMATELY 60 DAYS FROM WHEN WE TURN OVER THE SITE. SO FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THEIR WORK. UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UH, THEY'RE GIVING US A DATE OF APPROXIMATELY NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR FOR THAT WORK TO BE COMPLETE. AND PART OF THAT WORK INCLUDES ENHANCED LIGHTING OF THE SCULPTURE ITSELF, THE ARTWORK, UM, REMEDIATION OF THE DARK TUNNEL CONNECTOR FROM DELEY PLAZA, UH, AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES ENHANCED LIGHTING AND PAINTING THE WALLS. UM, IF YOU'VE VISITED, UM, MARS PARK AT ANY REALLY AT ANY TIME, YOU'VE, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE TAGGING ALONG THE, UM, ALONG THOSE WALLS AND THE PI. UM, SO THEY HOPE TO, OR THEIR APPROACH AND THEIR PROPOSAL TO DART WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THIS TUNNEL IS TO, UM, CREATE A MORE WELCOMING ENTRANCE ONTO THE PARK, UM, OF THE SUBJECT OF SAFETY. HA HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, ON MARTYRS PARK, GIVEN THE LOCATION. UM, SO PARKS HAS TAKEN A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO THAT IN THAT THEY HAVE FOR, THEY ARE FORMING, UH, MONITORING TEAMS AND THEY WERE DEPLOYED THESE TEAMS, UH, AS ADDED VIGILANCE AT, UH, MANY OF OUR PUBLIC PARKS. MARTYRS BEING ONE OF THEM, BUT PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT HAVE PUBLIC ART INCLUDED IN THEM. UM, AND SO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WE HAVE, UM, BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN OUR STAKEHOLDER ORGANIZATIONS, UH, BEING PARTICIPANTS, ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS INVESTED, UM, INVESTED STAKEHOLDERS. UM, IN THE PROCESS, WE HELD A STAKEHOLDERS MEETING, UM, ON MARCH 2ND AT THE SOUTH DALLAS CULTURAL CENTER. WE INVITED REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UH, UH, REMEMBERING BLACK DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY JUSTICE INITIATIVE. WE BRIEFED THEM ON THE PROGRESS ON THE PROJECT. THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR, UM, ANY CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS, AND WERE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE AT THAT TIME. UM, AFTER THAT, MOST RECENTLY WE HELD A, UH, COMMUNITY UPDATES MEETING, UM, ALSO AT SOUTH DALLAS CULTURAL CENTER. THIS HAPPENED ON MAY 18TH. UM, AND THE, UH, ALSO REMEMBERING LIKE DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY JUSTICE INITIATIVE ASKED TO BE CO-SPONSORS OF THAT, UM, OF THAT COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, WE OFFERED AGAIN, PROGRESS OUR, UH, THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT, BUT, UH, THE PLANS THAT, UM, PARK HAS FOR, FOR THE SITE, THEY BROUGHT TO US THEIR QUESTIONS, WHICH THEN GENERATED, UM, A, AN, UH, REQUEST FOR A SECOND COMMUNITY UPDATES AT WHICH THEN PARK WILL BE PART OF THAT MEETING SO THAT THEY CAN ASK, THEY CAN ANSWER PARK SPECIFIC, UH, PARK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT PERHAPS HAVING THAT IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, UM, OF THIS YEAR AS WELL. UM, AND SO, UM, ON YOUR SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A, A RENDERING OF WHAT, UH, MARTY'S PARK OR SHADOW LINES BY RECITE, UH, WILL LOOK LIKE. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, IF YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE SOME PROTOTYPE SAMPLES OF THE LASER CUTTINGS. UM, THEY SENT US THESE PIECES SO THAT WE COULD SEE WHAT THE, THE LETTERING WOULD BE, UM, ON THE, ON THE METAL. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT, UM, FROM PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND IT'S JUST A VERY EARLY, UM, KIND OF AN EARLY PROPOSAL OF WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT EX ENHANCED LIGHTING, PART OF THE REMEDIATION IS TO ADD, OF COURSE, LANDSCAPING TO THE PIECE, BUT THEY WILL ALSO CONSTRUCT THAT CONNECTOR PATHWAY FROM THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ONTO, UM, ONTO MARTYR'S PARK. AND THEY WILL ALSO ADD LIGHTING ALONG THE WAY. UM, PART OF THIS ALSO INCLUDES, UM, HIS, UH, HISTORICAL
MARKERS THAT WILL TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MARTYR'S PARK. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS ALSO A TWO MORE THAT WILL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO AT LEAST ONE OF THE MI UH, ONE OF THE, UM, UH, VICTIMS, JANE ELKINS, WHICH IS PART OF THE MEMORIAL. UH, BUT THAT IS, UH, PART OF THE PARTS DEPARTMENT SCOPE. UM, AND THEN SO THOSE HIGHLIGHTS, YOU'LL SEE, UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE A VERY PRELIMINARY LIGHTING PROTOTYPE PLAN FOR PARKS AND RECREATION OF WHAT LIGHTING MIGHT LOOK LIKE AT THE SITE. UM, THIS IS, YEAH, OF COURSE, THE VERY DRASTIC VISUAL OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. BUT, UM, ULTIMATELY PARKS HO WHAT PARK WANTS IS A COLLABORATION WITH THE ARTISTS AND THEY'VE BEEN, UH, PARTICIPATING IN, UM, IN THE LIGHTING CONVERSATION THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. BUT PARKS REALLY WANTS TO APPROACH THE LIGHTING AT MARTYRS SO THAT IT'S IN SERVICE OF THE PIECE ITSELF. UM, THEY WANT WHATEVER ELIMINATION HIT THE WALLS FOR IT TO BE, UM, AS, AS GENTLE OR, OR LET IT, LET REALLY BE THE ARTWORK SPEAK AND DICTATE WHAT THE LIGHTING WILL LOOK LIKE OUT AT, UH, MARTYRS. AND THEN ONE LAST IMAGE OF A, UM, OF A BRAID, KIND OF AS YOU STAND FROM THE SIDEWALK, UH, VIEW OF THE LIGHTING ON THAT. AND SO, UM, AGAIN, WE'VE ENTERED FABRICATION PHASE AND, UM, UNLESS THE ARTISTS TELL US OR PROVIDE US ANY UPDATES IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR THAT SEPTEMBER INSTALLATION DATE, THAT IS THE DATE THAT WE ARE TARGETING FOR INSTALLATION. FOR THIS PIECE. PERMISSION. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENT PERMISSION, ACY? UM, I JUST HAD A, IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR SECURITY OF THE PIECE BETWEEN INSTALLATION AND WHEN PARKS WILL HAVE ALL OF THE UPDATES DONE? BECAUSE IF, IF, IF WHAT YOU SAID, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL BE UNLIT AND THERE WILL STILL BE A LOT OF LACK OF LIGHTING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WILL BE THERE, IT'LL PROBABLY BE FENCED WHILE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT THEY DO IN ORDER TO SECURE THE PIECE. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT IS, I, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT, TO THAT PORTION OF THE LOGISTICS YET, BUT, UM, THEY RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF SECURING, IT'S PART OF THE REASON, UM, WHY THERE WAS A REVISED BUDGET TO THIS. UM, THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR, GOLDEN CONSTRUCTION, UM, WAS GIVEN AN EXPANDED SCOPE THAT INCLUDED SECURITY DURING THE, DURING THE, UM, CONCRETE FOUNDATION WORK AND THE INSTALLATION. SO THEY'VE ENHANCED THAT, THAT SCOPE. SO THAT INCLUDES SECURITY DURING THAT WORK. AND IF I MAY ADD, I DROVE BY THERE YESTERDAY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN AN ISSUE WITH, UM, AN, AN UNHOUSED ENCAMPMENT AND IT WAS CLEARED OUT. SO THE PARK RANGERS HAVE, UM, LUCKILY PARK AND REC, UM, HAS REQUESTED MORE FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR PARK RANGERS. SO THE PARK RANGERS ARE STARTING TO GO TO THE SITE ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS. COMMISSIONER BLAIS? YES. WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO US, UH, LIGHTING WAS REALLY VERY IMPORTANT IN WHAT, IN THE PRESENTATION THEY WERE SAYING AS THE SUN MOVES, THE SHADOW MOVES AND IT, AND IT STRIKES DIFFERENT NAMES. SO I ASKED, WHAT ABOUT NIGHT? WHAT ABOUT LIGHTING? ARE WE GOING TO CON CONSIDER LIGHTING? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE VERY OFTEN OUR PUBLIC ART DOES NOT CONSIDER LIGHTING FROM THE GET GO. AND THIS IS A PERFECT TIME, PERFECT, PERFECT PROJECT TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE LIGHTING INTO IT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THAT. UM, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ON THESE THREE LIGHTING POSITIONS ON THE PLAN, UH, THAT ARE NOT ALONG THE PATH, ARE THOSE IN THE AIR ON, ON POLES, OR ARE THEY ON THE GROUND? WHERE ARE THEY? SO THE, THE THREE, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE, UM, TO THE PIECE, THE, YEAH, THAT ONE'S, THAT ONE. SO THAT IS WHAT, RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF PRELIMINARY, BUT THOSE THREE, THOSE LARGER ONES ARE PLANNED TO BE POLE LIGHTS AT THIS TIME WITH MULTIPLE FIXTURES ATTACHED. UM, I DON'T HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS OF THE DIMENSIONS ON WHAT THOSE WILL BE AT THIS TIME. UM, THE ONES THAT ARE ALONG THAT SIDEWALK, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOWER. RIGHT? UHHUH? SO THAT SHOWS THAT, YEAH. SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING EARLY ON. WE ALSO HAD A QUESTION OF WHAT ABOUT CLOUDY DAYS? WHEN THE, UM, WHEN THE PIECE ITSELF IS NOT GOING TO, OR WHEN THE, WHEN THE NOMAN WILL NOT, UM, STRENGTHEN NAMES. UM, AND THERE'S NO ABILITY. SEE THERE, THERE WILL BE ETCHING ON THE, ON THE SURFACE OF THE, OF THE CONCRETE SO THAT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF LIGHT, UH, TO ASSIST, THERE WILL BE LINES ETCHED ON THAT CONCRETE PLAZA THAT WILL
POINT TOWARDS THE NAMES. THAT'S INTERESTING. THAT'S INTERESTING. THOSE THREE LIGHTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE, CAN WE GO TO THAT, TO THAT FOUR PLANT GROUND PLAN DRAWING? THIS ONE ? YES. THE ONES I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE THE THREE THAT SEEM TO FORM A TRIANGLE AROUND THE PIECE ITSELF. YEAH. OKAY. AND YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE GONNA PUT MULTIPLE LIGHTS UP THERE. OKAY. THREE POLES RIGHT NOW IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO PUT THREE POLES WITH MULTIPLE FIX SHARES. AND ARE THOSE GOING TO BE ON AT ALL TIME? I MEAN, ALL AT THE SAME TIME? OR ARE WE SAYING WE'RE GONNA SHOW THIS ONE, THEN WE'RE GONNA SHOW THAT ONE, THEN WE'RE GONNA SHOW THAT ONE. SO WE SEE THE CHANGING. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DYNAMIC. I THINK THEY'LL BE STATIC, JUST ELIMINATION OF THE SITE AND THE ARTISTS ARE OKAY WITH, OKAY. SO IF THE ARTISTS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, BECAUSE ALSO, IF YOU PUT MULTIPLE LIGHTS UP THERE, YOU'RE GONNA GET MULTIPLE SHADOWS FROM EACH ONE. MM-HMM. . SO YES. I THINK THIS IS JUST FOR NIGHTTIME ILLUMINATION. SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY, THERE'S, UM, THE NEED FOR SAFETY AT THE SITE, BUT ALSO FOR IT TO BE, UM, FOR THE ARTWORK TO BE ILLUMINATED AND IN CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION WITH THE ARTISTS, WHICH THEY'VE BEEN PARTICIPANTS ALL ALONG. UM, THEY, THEY'RE OKAY WITH, WITH THIS APPROACH, THEY'VE HAD NO, NO, UM, NO ISSUE WITH IT. THEY'RE, THEY WORK, THEY, IT WORKS FOR THEM. I JUST, I JUST THINK, THINK, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE WHOLE POINT OF THE LIGHT DURING THE DAY AND THE MOVEMENT OF THE SUN WAS SO KEY TO THIS PROJECT MM-HMM. THAT I WAS JUST HOPING THERE WOULD BE SOME WAY TO REPLICATE THAT IN SOME WAY. YEAH. MM-HMM. , MR. , UH, WHEN THIS BEGAN, UH, WHEN THIS STARTED, UH, THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF ACCESS, UM, WITH, UH, HANDICAP PEOPLE. YES. THAT IS AN ONGOING, AND WE ARE, UM, IT FORECASTING KIND OF A LONG TERM DISCUSSION. THERE IS A, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE IS PLAN OF STRONG DESIRE TO CREATE SOME FORM OF PARKING, UM, ALONG THE, UM, CLOSER TO THE PART SO THAT THOSE THAT ARE, UM, WE'RE HAVING, IF WE'RE A WHEELCHAIR USER OR SOMEONE THAT HAS MOBILITY ISSUES, CAN APPROACH IT A LITTLE BIT WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE EASE. UM, RIGHT NOW, WE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION, OR RATHER THE OWNERS OF THAT LAND IN CONVERSATION WITH US, OF COURSE, UM, HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND A, A QUICK SOLUTION TO IT. BUT IT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT IS PLANNED FOR THE SITE. I JUST CAN'T GIVE YOU A TIMELINE ON WHEN, ON WHEN THAT WENT, WHEN THAT COULD HAPPEN. WHO OWNS THAT? UH, LET'S SEE. UH, RAILROAD OWNS IT. TECH TDOT OWNS IT. DART OWNS IT. IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGING SITE BECAUSE IF YOU, YES. SO IF YOU'LL SEE THAT DOTTED, UM, ALMOND SHAPE THERE, WHAT THE CITY OWNS IS ACTUALLY THAT IN THE MIDDLE THERE. AND SO THE OTHER OWNERS ARE ALLOWING PARTS TO CREATE THIS PATHWAY ON THERE BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ARTWORK, AND THEY RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S CHALLENGING AND HAS BEEN CHALLENGING ABOUT THIS SITE IS THAT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT OUR ARTWORK IS VERY SQUARELY WITHIN CITY PROPERTY. UH, BUT YES, AS, AS YOU SAID, IT'S GOT, IT HAS VARIOUS OWNERS AND RAILROAD DART, ALL OF THOSE HAVE, HAVE, UM, HAVE A STAKE IN IT. AND SO THAT WILL BE A, A LONG CONVERSATION, BUT NOT ONE THAT IS FORGOTTEN, BECAUSE THEY DO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCESSIBILITY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SCHAL? YES. UH, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION GOES TO THE, UH, PROTOTYPES OF THE ARTWORK ITSELF. THESE ARE, UH, THESE ARE ALREADY DECIDED ON, I GUESS. YES. UM, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION, I MEAN, THIS IS A MEMORIAL TO VICTIMS OF RACIAL VIOLENCE, IF THERE WERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO ACTUALLY HAVING IMAGES OR, UH, MORE DETAILED DESCRIPTORS OF THE ACTUAL VICTIMS OF THE ACTUAL VIOLENCE? YES. I'M SORRY. I, I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THIS FOR, SO THE ARTWORK ITSELF, IF WE'LL GO BACK TO MY FIRST INTRODUCTION, UM, INTRODUCTORY, UH, SLIDE. UM, SO YES, SO THERE IS, AS YOU WALK ONTO THE MEMORIAL, THE FIRST PANEL WILL HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF THE PURPOSE OF WHAT THIS ARTWORK AND WHAT THIS SPACE IS MEANT TO DO. SO THE OVERALL, UM, FORM IS MEANT TO FUNCTION AS A SUNDIAL, BUT INSTEAD OF TELLING THE TIMES OF DAY, IT, THE SHADOWS WILL FALL ON. NAMES OF VICTIMS THAT HAVE, THAT WERE, UH,
SEVERAL OF THESE WHO WERE, OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY, UM, UH, DIED ON THIS, ON THIS SPACE. AND SO, UM, THEY, THOSE SHADOWS WILL THEN FALL ON THOSE, ON THOSE LINES. AND AS YOU WALK THROUGH AND FURTHER DOWN THAT, TOWARDS THE END, THAT WILL HAVE A POEM BY TIM SIEBOLD'S. UM, AND ALSO, UH, REMEMBERING LIKE DALLAS AND DALLAS EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT CONTENT. THE FINAL LIST OF NAMES AND EDITS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, FOR THE POEM. SO YES, THERE WILL BE DESCRIPTIONS, NO IMAGES OF THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES, BUT THEIR NAMES, THE DATES, AND A DESCRIPTION OF THE, OF THE PURPOSE OF THE MEMORIAL. WAS THERE A REASON FOR NOT HAVING THE ACTUAL IMAGES? I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. WHY? UH, I, I, I DON'T ANSWER WHY IMAGES NOT YOU DO. OKAY. WE CAN JUST, FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE IMAGES OF MANY OF THESE PEOPLE, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE LYNCHED, THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY DOCUMENT THAT. BUT IF YOU WOULD GO TO THE SLIDE, UM, JEREMY, IT SHOWS THE, THE, THE LETTERING ON SO THAT HE CAN SEE HOW THAT WORKS. SEE DAVID? YEAH. I, I, I, SO THIS, WHEN THE LIGHT HITS IT, THAT NAME IS ILLUMINATED WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, THE SHADOW. MM-HMM. THE SHADOW. MM-HMM. . SO THE NAME WILL BECOME VISIBLE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DAY WITH THE, UH, SUN CHANGING, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE YOU. YOU'LL SEE THESE NAMES BECOME VISIBLE ALONG THIS, THIS, UM, CURVED ARC OF THE EXPLANATION, THE NAMES, AND THEN TIM SIEBEL'S POEM. AND THEN, THEN YOU MAY NOT KNOW TIM, BUT TIM IS A, UH, AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN POET. HE USED TO LIVE HERE. HE'S AN AWARD-WINNING POET, AND HE'S CREATED A POEM, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS PIECE. THANK YOU, VICKY. VICKY'S GOOD WITH IT, THOUGH. I DIDN'T SAY I WAS GOOD WITH . NO, COME BACK. I, I, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THIS, UM, TOO OFTEN THE MAJORITY OF THESE VICTIMS OF RACIAL VIOLENCE ARE BLACK. AND TOO OFTEN WE HAVE IMAGES THAT, THAT WATERED DOWN EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND WHAT HAPPENED. AND, AND ME LOOKING AT THIS GRAY PIECE OF METAL WITH A NAME ON IT IS A LOT, IT HITS ME A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE ACTUAL, SOME IMAGE OF A LYNCHING, OR AS WE PUT IT, UH, INSTANCE OF RACIAL VIOLENCE. YOU KNOW, A NAME ON BLACK IS DIFFERENT THAN MEMORIALIZING INSTANCE OF RACIAL VIOLENCE. UH, AND THAT'S, THAT IS MY COMMENT. AND THAT TO, JUST TO KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT, SO WHEN, UM, THE ARTIST FIRST CAME BACK WITH THE FINAL LIST OF NAMES THAT THEY WORKED WITH, UH, RIMMER RED, BLACK DALLAS, AND, UM, THE JUSTICE INITIATIVE IN DALLAS, UM, THEY PROPOSED THEIR FIRST DRAFT, AND THEY, THAT THAT WAS EXACTLY SIMILAR COMMENTS THAT THEY OFFERED. WE NEED STRONGER LANGUAGE. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE BARBARITY OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS SPACE. AND SO THE ARTIST AND TIM SIEBELS TOOK THOSE COMMENTS FROM BOTH ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEY BROUGHT BACK SOMETHING THAT, UH, REMEMBERING LED DALLAS, THE PEOPLE THAT OUR STAKEHOLDERS WERE VERY HAPPY WITH, BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT IT WAS AS STRONG AS IT NEEDED TO BE FOR THE SPACE. AND SO THAT IT DOESN'T, UM, IT DOESN'T, UM, WATER DOWN THE, THE ATROCITIES THAT HAPPEN ON THIS, ON THIS SITE THAT IT, IT REALLY DOES, IS AS IT'S VERY DESCRIPTIVE, NOT TO THE, I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. NOT TO MAKE ANYONE UNCOMFORTABLE. I, BUT THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT. MM-HMM. . SO, OKAY. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES MICKEY. I UNDERSTAND SHE'S HAVING PROBLEM WITH HER RAISED HAND FUNCTION. MICKEY UNMUTE AND TALK TO HER. I THINK THE PROBLEM MAY BE WITH MICKEY, THAT MIGHT THAT IS, BUT I CAN FIND ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE PARTS AND SMILEY FACES AND BIRTHDAY HATS, BUT I CAN'T FIND, SO, UM, SO, UM, UM, I WANTED TO ASK, UM, TWO QUESTIONS FIRST BACK ON, AND I'LL JUST ASK 'EM BOTH QUICKLY UP FRONT FIRST, BACK ON THE SECURITY ISSUE. UM, WHAT IS BEING DONE TO MAKE THE SITE SECURE FOR VISITORS, GIVEN IT'S LOCATION, UH, IF ANYTHING. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK WAS, UM, AND THAT'S A SOMEWHAT LOADED QUESTION, JUST BECAUSE GIVEN, I MEAN, WE WANT EVERYONE TO FEEL WELCOME THERE AND SAFE WHEN THEY GO THERE. SO I DO, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO, UM, SPEAKING TO, TO DAVID'S POINT, TO SOME USE OF QR
CODES THAT WOULD ALLOW VISITORS, UH, TO THIS SITE TO ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING MORE, UM, TO, TO GET THE STORIES OF THESE PEOPLE? I REALIZE WE MAY NOT HAVE IMAGES, BUT SO THAT WE, SO THAT WE DO SHARE THE DETAILS, UM, AND, AND WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, UH, BECAUSE I, I THINK THIS IS BEAUTIFUL, UM, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOT TURN AWAY FROM THE HORROR OF WHAT IS BEING COMMEMORATED. AND I THINK PERHAPS THE QR CODE, UM, WITH RESPECT TO EACH EACH STORY WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION. UM, SO TO, UM, TO YOUR, UH, QUESTION ABOUT SECURITY. SO PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED, UH, MONITORING TEAMS THAT WILL ENHANCE THE SECURITY AND HAVE MORE EYES ON THE SPACE. UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE, I THINK BENJAMIN MENTIONED, UH, MORE PRESENCE OF PARK RANGERS AT THE PARK, UM, TO FEEL US HERE. WE'VE ALSO PREFER, UH, WE'VE ALSO, UM, BROUGHT FORTH THE IDEA PERHAPS CAMERAS ON, ON SITE, UM, A AN EMERGENCY TELEPHONE. SO WE'VE BOUNCED AROUND SOME IDEAS OF WHAT MIGHT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST, UM, TO ENHANCE SECURITY. UH, BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN FINALIZED AT THAT, UH, AT THAT TIME, AT THIS TIME, FROM, FROM PARTS YET ON WHAT, WHAT THEIR APPROACH WOULD BE. UM, ON THE SECOND PORTION, WE ARE EXPLORING IDEAS THAT, UH, ARTISTS ALSO, UM, PRESENTED. THERE'S, UH, OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CREATE MORE ROBUST LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES AND TO HAVE LINKS OR SOMETHING TO TAKE YOU EITHER TO, UH, HISTORICAL SITES OR BOOKS, OR GIVE MORE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT, OF EACH PERSON'S HISTORY, WHATEVER HISTORY THAT'S KNOWN, SADLY. UM, I THINK AS WE KNOW, A LOT OF THAT HISTORY IS JUST LOST TO TIME BECAUSE IT JUST WASN'T PRESERVED AND SO, RIGHT. EXACTLY. AND SO, UM, REMEMBERING BLACK DALLAS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE, UM, AND VERY GENEROUS WITH THEIR TIME AND, AND ENERGY IN REALLY SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT AND ASSISTING US, UM, IN, UM, IN KIND OF FORMULATING WAYS AND OF, OF, UH, ENHANCING THE, THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT AND THE INFORMATIONAL COMPONENT. BUT NATHAN, THANK YOU. CONCRETE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED YET, BUT THERE ARE IDEAS OF YES, ENHANCING EDUCATION AND, UM, AND INFORMATION ACCESS THERE. THANK YOU. I WILL JUST, UM, REITERATE WHAT DAVID SAID. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE, UM, THAT THOSE STORIES BE TOLD AS WELL AS IT BE, UH, AND I ALSO, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, BE VIGILANT ON THE SECURITY ISSUE. UM, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT PARK RANGERS ARE GONNA BE BY THERE MORE, BUT, UM, WE WANT THIS TO BE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE VISITING AND THAT THEY FEEL SAFE VISITING, AND THAT THE STORIES THAT COME OUT OF PEOPLE VISITING THIS MONUMENT ARE, ARE NOT NEGATIVE. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE SECURITY ISSUES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. COMMISSIONER CURIEL IS YOUR HAND UP? UM, YES, MA'AM. UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. YES. OKAY. UM, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE CO UH, COLLABORATION WITH E J I AND I, THIS IS, MAYBE IT'S OFF TOPIC AND YOU CAN TELL ME TO ASK ANOTHER TIME, BUT, UM, IS THIS PART OF THE WORK, OR AT LEAST FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE LIKE A COLUMN THAT EXISTS AT THE INITIAL MEMORIAL, AND THAT IF ONCE WE HAVE KIND OF, NOT KIND OF, BUT HAVE DONE THE WORK TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THE TERROR THAT HAS HAPPENED HERE, THAT WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, THEN THAT COLUMN WILL BE, THERE ARE TWO OF THEM, AND THAT WE GET TO TAKE ONE. I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THIS PART OF THAT PROCESS, OR AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THAT IF ANYONE ELSE KNOWS? I'M SORRY. I'M USING MY PHONE AND MY COMPUTER, SO NO, IT'S, I'M TALKING THROUGH MY PHONE YET. IT'S, NO, IT ISN'T. IT'S, IT'S NOT. IT'S, UM, I, I THINK THE DALLAS, UM, UH, REMEMBERING LIKE DALLAS, UM, DR. DR. GEORGE KEATON, UM, WHO, UH, WHO WAS KINDA OUR, UM, OUR MAIN CONTACT THERE AND REALLY QUITE A, A WALKING, UH, FONT OF INFORMATION WHEN HE PASSED AWAY. I KNOW THAT IN MY CON UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, HE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH E G I TO BRING ONE OF THE COLUMNS HERE TO DALLAS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT PROCESS IS, BUT, UH, NO, THIS IS
A, THIS IS A SEPARATE, UM, THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROJECT. OKAY. JUST WONDERING. THANK YOU. OH, BUT BENJAMIN MIGHT HAVE . OKAY. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONERS, UM, WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IS, UM, UM, THE DALLAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION REQUESTS A TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION MARKER TO OBVIOUSLY COMMEMORATE, AND IN THIS CASE, THIS IS HALLOW GRANT THAT WE ARE COMMEMORATE. SO THIS HAPPENED WHEN WE OPENED UP THE ANDERSON, SORRY, OPENED UP. SO WHEN WE DEDICATED THE ANDERSON BAR PIECE, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAD PUT A MARKER FOR, UM, ANDERSON BON THERE. SO I, I BELIEVE EGI IS WORKING ON THAT HISTORICAL OH, OKAY. SORRY. HAD, YEAH, NO, THAT'S OKAY. , WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TODAY, SO THANK YOU. SO THAT IS, THAT IS IN THE WORKS ACRONYM, UM, EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE. AND SO THEY ACTUALLY, THE EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE IS WORKING WITH, UH, THE LOCAL, THE LOCAL EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE IS UNDER ED GRAY. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE FOR IN SELMA, ALABAMA, WHERE THEY HAVE THAT MUSEUM. AND SO THE MARKER IS COMING. WE HAVE ANOTHER MARKER COMING FROM THERE FOR ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT I WILL BRIEF THAT. MONTGOMERY, YES. NOT SELMA MONTGOMERY. SORRY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TRILLA YOUR HAND UP. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I ABSOLUTELY HATE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, A MEMORIAL LIKE THIS. UH, BUT WITH THAT SAID, THIS IS WICKEDLY COOL, AND I THINK IT WILL GET NATIONAL PRESS. I THINK IT'S, UM, JUST ABSOLUTELY STUNNING. ONE THING, UM, I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAGON SAID. UM, AFTER WORKING ON THE, UM, MY CONFEDERATE MONUMENT TASK FORCE, THE ONE THING THAT I WALKED AWAY WITH THAT, UM, WILL BE WITH ME FOREVER, IS THAT WE DO WASH DOWN HISTORY, AND SOMETIMES WE ONLY REMEMBER WHAT WE WANT TO REMEMBER. AND I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY IMPLORE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ON, ON THIS, ON THIS TRIBUTE TO THINK ABOUT QR CODES. SO THAT CAN TELL MORE OF THE STORY, UH, BECAUSE BEING A WHITE FEMALE FROM MIDDLE CLASS, YOU KNOW, DALLAS, TEXAS, PLANO, TEXAS, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THESE STORIES, AND I WANNA TEACH MY CHILD, UM, WHAT THEY MEAN. AND I WILL SAY ATLANTA HAS DONE A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB OF, OF CONTINUING THE STORY. UM, AND, AND I HOPE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO HERE IN DALLAS SO THAT WE CAN LEARN MORE. UM, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THIS. IT'S A, IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PIECE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DR. WE THANK YOU FOR COMING. COME. OKAY. WHAT IS HE PERMISSION? DID YOU, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT, UH, ELLA SAID. AND ANOTHER, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SMALL SAID THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE QR CODES. THAT'S MY INPUT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE OTHER HANDS COMMENTS? JIMMA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND WE JUST HEARD CURIOS, ALREADY SPOKEN STAND DOWN. JIMMA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO SEND WHETHER TO JIM NUGENT'S REPORTS. HE'S ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAS GIVEN US TWO LIAISON REPORTS, UH, THIS MONTH. WE THANK YOU. HE SUBMITTED ARTILLERY AS WELL AS SOLE REP. YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION EITHER IN YOUR PACKET OR EITHER IN YOUR EMAIL. WE HAVE QUESTIONS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT JIM REGARDING THAT. THE SECOND COMMISSIONER TO BE RECOGNIZED WHO DID HER HOMEWORK, IS JOE TRILLA. SHE'S GIVEN US A VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT FROM THE DALLAS SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, WHICH TELLS US EVERYTHING THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS SUMMER, INCLUDING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN 50 MINUTES TONIGHT. WE NEED TO BE LEAVING QUICKLY TO JOIN
JOY AT JOE AT PROJECT UNION. TOGETHER WE SAY THANK YOU, JOE, AND HER OTHER REPORT IS THE DALLAS WIND. THOSE REPORTS ARE VERY GOOD, YOUR EYES AND EARS TO KEEP US ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ARTS ORGANIZATION. AT THIS TIME, I'LL CALL ON OUR DIRECTIVE FOR UPDATES WITH STAFFING. OKAY, SO KEGAN, VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PRESENCE. UM, I WANTED TO SHARE, NOT LITERALLY A STAFFING UPDATE, BUT, UM, SOME LEARNING THAT OCCURRED. UM, ANNE MARIE AND I HAD A FEW MEETINGS WITH HR TO TRY, TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE HICCUPS HAVE BEEN IN REGARD TO SOME OF OUR HIRING PROCESSES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BASED ON SOME ISSUES WITH HOW JOBS ARE POSTED AND WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THE LINE AS WE FINALIZE CANDIDATES AND LAND ON SOMEONE WE REALLY WANNA WORK WITH AND INVITE TO OUR TEAM, AND THEN GET TO A STOPPING POINT WITH HR, WHERE ESSENTIALLY WE FEEL THE RUG IS BEING PULLED FROM AMONG DURES. AND WE'RE GETTING TO A POSITION WHERE HR IS DENYING CERTAIN CANDIDATES FROM BEING ONBOARDED. SO WE ARE NOW WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH A DEDICATED PARTNER ON THE HR TEAM WHO IS HELPING US IRON OUT WHAT WE FEEL IS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN HR TALENT, UH, THE FOLKS WHO ARE SCREENING AND HR COMPENSATION, OR MORE LIKE THE END OF THE ROAD. I MIGHT BE BEING TOO TRANSPARENT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THE SLAB LATER FOR THAT. BUT, UM, SO JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW THIS IS IMPACTING OUR STAFFING, WE RECENTLY, UM, GOT TO A SPACE WHERE WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'D BE ONBOARDING OUR SENIOR P I O AND AGAIN, HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE WITH HR COMPENSATION, UH, GIVING US A RED LIGHT. AND SO WE ARE NOW, UM, TRYING TO IRON OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ROAD THAT IS ESSENTIALLY MOVING CANDIDATES FORWARD WHO AREN'T EVEN ELIGIBLE FOR HIRE. ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. SO WE'RE NOT HR, WE'RE OAC. THIS IS AN HR MATTER THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SO THAT IT WILL STOP NEGATIVELY IMPACTING OUR SELECTION PROCESSES. UM, AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THE HR PARTNER THAT WE'RE ASSIGNED TO WORK WITH. UH, SHE'S VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE. SHE HAS HELPED US, UM, ADDRESS ISSUES THAT PREDATE MY BEING HERE. UM, CUZ THIS IS NOT, UH, ONE UNIQUE INSTANCE. IT HAS HAPPENED WITH, UH, A NUMBER OF, OF, OF OPENINGS, UH, THAT WE HAVE. UM, AND WE INTEND TO HOPEFULLY WORK OUT THIS PIO MANNER, DOUBLE BACK TO THE PUBLIC ART MANAGER ROLE THAT I KNOW IS EXTREMELY, UH, SENSITIVE AND SIGNIFICANT FOR US BECAUSE THAT KIND OF FELL IN THE SAME, UM, BUBBLE OF CONCERNS. UM, AND EXPEDITE THOSE PROCESSES WITH THAT HR PARTNER MARCHING AND HOLDING OUR HAND. WE'RE GONNA NEED HANDHOLDING, UM, AS A LAYER OF PROTECTION AND TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HR IS HOLDING THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AS TEAM MEMBERS TO GET US TO THE FINISH LINE OF THESE OPENINGS BECAUSE IT IS JUNE AND I, I REACHED A REALLY FRUSTRATING POINT THIS PARTICULAR WEEK. I WANNA THANK ANN MARIE FOR, UM, DEALING WITH ME IN THAT REGARD. NOT WASN'T PRETTY, SO THANK YOU HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO I, I BRING THAT, UH, BAD NEWS REALLY, BUT WITH, UH, SOME CONFIDENCE IN THE GUIDANCE AND THE STEPS FORWARD. UM, AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE WHERE WE WENT THIS SUMMER WITH BOTH OF THOSE ROLES. UM, OUR HR PARTNER IS JUST AS, UH, PASSIONATE ABOUT WANTING TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON THOSE PART TWO ROLES IS WE ARE. UM, AND SO I HOPE THAT WHEN WE DO RECONVENE IN AUGUST, THAT WE HAVE TWO SEATS FILLED WITH TWO STAFF MEMBERS AND WE CAN PUT THIS TO BED. SO, SO YOU BRING US THAT AS INFORMATION. IS IT ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO ASSIST? UM, NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO ASSIST. I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN A LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION, UH, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND, AND THEIR NEEDS. UM, SO WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST NEED YOUR GRACE AND PATIENCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER TO OUR HR PARTNERS. UM, IT'S NOT IDEAL. IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING, WORKING WORK. OKAY. AND QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, JUST, JUST THE COMMENT THAT, THAT, UM, THANKFULLY WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING IN JULY OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. SO, YOU KNOW, STARTING IN IN AUGUST IS NOT HOLDING US UP. ANYWAY, FOR, FOR OUR MEETING MEETING, OUR LAST MEETING IS THIS MONTH. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR STAFFING UPDATES. I'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, SOME SHARING INFORMATION ABOUT OUR COMMISSIONER'S RETREAT IN JULY. UM, I WANTED TO SHARE A BIT ABOUT HOW WE LANDED
ON THE LOCATION. I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS HELD THEIR RETREAT AT THANKSGIVING SQUARE. UM, THE OFFICE IS, UM, EMBARKING ON A REALLY UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP. WE PLANNING, UH, TO SUPPORT THANKSGIVING SQUARES FOUNDATION IN THEIR EFFORTS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND THE FOCUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE ARTS NATURALLY, EASILY. IT'S THE EASIEST, EASIEST THING. CULTURE IS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE VAGUE AND HARD TO STICK TO, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO THANKSGIVING SQUARE, UM, THE FOUNDATION AND THE FACILITY TO BE THIS SPACE THAT THE CITY CAN LOOK TO, TO REFLECT, UM, TO MEDITATE, TO FIND SOME SENSE OF RENEWAL. UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A SPACE THAT INVITES THAT TYPE OF ENERGY AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE OUR RETREAT THERE AGAIN ON THE SAME PAGE, HAVE A SENSE OF RESET. I UNDERSTAND THAT WITH INAUGURATION, THAT SOMETIMES THERE ARE CHANGES AND SHIFTS TO COMMISSIONS, UH, BY MEMBERSHIP. AND SO THIS, UM, SEASON IS A SEASON WHERE YOU'RE ALSO REFLECTING ON YOUR LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE OR RETURN. I, I WOULDN'T KNOW UNLESS WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICES IN THIS, IN, IN THIS TRANSITION, BUT I DO HOPE THAT WE'LL ALL BE BACK TOGETHER AND, UH, ATTENDING IN ATTENDANCE AT THIS, UH, RETREAT IN JULY. SO THIS IS A SPECIAL CALL MEETING. JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, ATTENDANCE DOES NOT COUNT AGAINST YOUR RECORD OF ATTENDANCE AT OUR STAND STANDING MEETINGS, BUT WE DO NEED A QUORUM. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT JULY 13TH IS SMACK BEBB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER. UM, AND WE HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT IMPOSING ON YOUR PLANS, UH, THIS SUMMER, BUT WE DO NEED YOU TO CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE, UH, TO LUIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH FINAL PLANS BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS. WE'RE PROVIDING TWO MEALS, UH, IN THAT SETTING. AND, UM, BASED ON FEEDBACK WE GET IN OUR STANDING MEETINGS ABOUT, UM, THE NEED AND THE WILLINGNESS AND DESIRE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AROUND OPEN FORUM, OPEN DISCUSSION. WE'D LIKE TO PLAN, NOT SO MUCH PLAN THE DISCUSSIONS, BUT AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT TOPICS YOU'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, BRING THOSE TO YOUR ATTENTION SO THAT EACH MEMBER CAN BE READY AT LEAST IF THEY WANNA SHARE CERTAIN TERM TALKING POINTS OR INFORMATION BASED ON THE TOPICS THAT FOLKS SHARE. SO WE'LL NEED YOU TO, UH, SUBMIT THOSE TOPICS TO LUIS BY THE END OF THIS MONTH SO THAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THOSE TOPICS TO COMMISSIONERS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, UM, BY THAT TIME. UH, AND AS WE'RE FLESHING OUT THE AGENDA, OF COURSE WE HAVE UH, SPECIAL INVITED GUESTS WHO ARE GONNA RETURN, UM, TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, WHO WE HAVE COMING. WE HAVE IGS COMING BACK. YES, BARON. UH, TALK MORE ABOUT GIFT POLICY. WHO, UM, BARRON ELLISON GENTLEMAN, HE WAS HERE. POLICY WAS HERE TO TALK. POLICY. POLICY. DID YOU TREAT? YES. REALLY? YES. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW. JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE, WELL ANYWAY, SO DON'T WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE OFFICIAL BUSINESS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT THERE ARE A FEW TENANTS THAT HE FEELS LIKE HE NEEDS TO RETURN TO TALK TO, TO SHARE ABOUT, AND HE WANTS A MORE CASUAL SETTING TO THAT END. SO WE ARE GIVING HIM LUCKY ON 10 MINUTES I'M BE IN CUBA. AT ANY RATE, KEEP IT ON MIND. KEEP IT ON MIND. SO PLEASE DO TO OPEN DISCUSSION TOPICS. GO TO LOUIS BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE DO. I MEAN THE DAY IS NOT FOR THE CONDUCTING OF BUSINESS BY, BY THE LARGE NUMBER OF ITEMS WE HAVE PLANNED. BUT AGAIN, FOR US TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER A BIT BETTER, GET A LOT OF CLARITY ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD AND GET A RESET. AND I DO BEG YOU TO ATTEND IF YOU CAN. AND THAT'S THAT. COMMISSIONERS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WE'VE HEARD MICKEY'S COMMENT. DON'T BE NO, I REALLY AM GONNA BE IN CUBA. I'M SORRY. TIME. IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. I AM SAD THAT I WILL NOT BE PRESENT. SO YOU SEE A HAND COMMISSIONER HALMA, YOUR HAND IS IN. YES. THANK YOU. SO SINCE WE'RE OFF IN JULY, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO REVISIT THE UH, AND THE, UM, AUGUST. AUGUST. IN AUGUST? YES SIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER
. LET'S MAKE A PITCH FOR THE SOLE REP PLAY THAT IS SHOWING NOW. IT'S A LIGHT TWO YEAR, UH, TWO HOURS. AND THERE ARE MANY FUNNY PLAYS AT MARGOT JONES, SO THANK YOU. SO THAT'S THE NIGHT AS WELL. TONIGHT AND TOMORROW. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE NIGHT TOMORROW. SET COMMISSIONER. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST CIRCLE BACK AND SAY, CAN WE BE SURE TO GET THE OAC RESPONSE THAT MICKEY ASKED FOR, THAT WE, SO WE, SO WE, ALL OF US CAN HEAR IT, NOT JUST MICKEY. I'LL FORWARD IT TO LOUIS SO THAT HE CAN SEND IT TO EVERYBODY. WELL, I'LL ADMIT IT. OKAY. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE OUR BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION BEING DULY CONSIDERED, I CALL THIS MEETING TO A CLOSE AT 6:20 PM UM, SAY AND WATCH, GO 10.