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[0:03] I'd like to call this meeting to order. Could I have the roll call?
[0:09] We have another recording
[0:11] going on, too, so we're unsure where you are. Go ahead and let me with you recording.
[0:22] Okay, we'll call this meeting to order 717. Sorry, so the roll call, please.
[0:41] Can someone with some veteran mind-leading us in the Pledge of Allegiance, I'm not sure who's a veteran or an athlete,
[0:52] I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
[0:58] I welcome the citizens to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for
[1:05] which expands one nation, another out, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[1:14] Thank you.
[1:18] Let's see.
[1:20] Alan Burns, I can have a motion to approve the agenda.
[1:25] Mr. Chairman.
[1:26] Pat Johnson.
[1:27] Yes.
[1:27] I move to amend the agenda item five, which is a title to review an update of the payroll line that the credit.
[1:36] I move to amend that to have the board authorize expenditures against the line of credit to the full amount of $450,000.
[1:49] No other changes to the agenda.
[1:51] Yeah.
[1:53] Okay. Thank you, Perry.
[1:56] Can I have a motion to approve the agenda with the amended changes to number five?
[2:03] Mr. Chairman, I move. I shall move.
[2:06] Second.
[2:08] Second.
[2:09] On the favor.
[2:11] Aye.
[2:11] Aye.
[2:13] Aye.
[2:14] Okay.
[2:15] All right.
[2:17] Yeah.
[2:17] Number three, Alan Burns, approved the 16 July, 2026 board meeting minutes.
[2:27] Did everyone get a chance to look them over?
[2:31] You know what, Alan, there are a few of them now.
[2:35] Okay.
[2:36] Yeah, present.
[2:38] All right.
[2:38] Let's see.
[2:39] Got a little different formula.
[2:41] Oh, okay.
[2:41] You got the minutes up there.
[2:43] I don't know if that's the agenda.
[2:44] Yeah.
[2:48] Got the CD-1s there.
[2:50] Mr. Chairman, do you have a motion to approve?
[2:52] So, yeah, Mr. Chairman, I move the approval of the minutes as recorded for the July 16th,
[3:00] 2026 meeting.
[3:02] The second.
[3:04] Second.
[3:06] All in favor?
[3:08] Aye.
[3:08] Aye.
[3:11] All right.
[3:12] Number four.
[3:13] Treasure reports.
[3:14] Pat Johnson.
[3:15] Thank you.
[3:20] Could you pull up the other slide first?
[3:26] Yes, that one. Thank you. Move that so that the view, uh, so that size, uh, can you squeeze
[3:33] it down a little bit so you see that I know that's hard to get the, I'd like to have that.
[3:38] There we go. I know, I know the type font is small to include everything, but I, uh, I'd like
[3:49] everyone in attendance to see that what you have on the board and fund you is the
[3:55] statement of activity. This is essentially an income statement showing income
[4:02] and expenditures by the department. This is cumulative January through July 2026.
[4:12] This is a current statement rather than go through all of the numbers on
[4:18] here, which are available to everyone, I'm sure that you're aware of that.
[4:25] I'd like to call your attention to three columns.
[4:28] The columns type at operations, RIMs, and Wildland.
[4:34] Operations category is the cost to keep the fire department open and to provide the 24-7-365
[4:44] uninterrupted service to the residents.
[4:47] this is what it costs as an offset to that cost what we have are the annual fees
[4:56] which are charged to each parcel owner last year for the year prior they were
[5:02] $550. That is one source of revenue that we have to offset the
[5:08] operational expenses. The other two are the deployments where in we have
[5:14] available for a call-up by the Department of Natural Resources, a wildland teams that
[5:21] includes multiple teams, each with their own crew and vehicle, it includes an ambulance
[5:30] as a point of service, which is actually deployed again right now, and then Rams, which is rapid
[5:42] an extraction module system. Basically this is the unit that goes to fires that rescues the
[5:50] firefighters. When one is when firefighters are injured or are less capacitated or need
[5:56] extrication from a dangerous area in the fire, the REMS, our REMS team goes and performs that
[6:04] function. We are paid through the Department of National Resources for these services.
[6:12] If you'll note at the bottom column where I myself need reading glasses,
[6:20] the cost of the cost of operations to date is negative $471,827 and it looks like $16.
[6:30] Okay. That is what it costs to provide the services to you in the community and in the valley.
[6:39] Okay, that's 24, 7, 365 uninterrupted service.
[6:45] The next, the REMS column, the net to that,
[6:49] that is income minus the expenses related to that
[6:53] or a positive 300, we should really have to,
[6:58] why wife reading glasses.
[7:02] 382,572 dollars and 62 cents.
[7:05] Of course, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[7:10] correspondingly the net income from wild land is $460,632. These are the revenue sources
[7:20] that offset the expenses.
[7:25] This is why we as residents do not have to pay out of our pockets
[7:32] $470,000, $827,000, it's offset by the income that is generated by our own department.
[7:40] To the bottom line on the right, the total net revenue for this year, $340,198.12.
[7:52] That income is a trending figure that has, as I had given you in prior financial reports,
[8:01] is have been increasing month to month.
[8:05] The figure for June 30th was $77,935.
[8:12] So you can see a significant amount to the net revenue
[8:16] of the department.
[8:18] We're now over $340
[8:24] ,000.
[8:25] Thanks Jeff.
[8:27] The prior month may, May 31st,
[8:31] the department's net revenue was negative $20,340.
[8:37] The positive trend that you see,
[8:39] which we expect to continue through the wild land season,
[8:42] will be positive.
[8:45] The funds, the funds which are generated,
[8:48] not only pay for operational expenses
[8:52] that occur on a monthly basis,
[8:55] they will serve to provide funds
[8:59] for the capital leases for equipment to which we are obligated and I would advise the
[9:06] board that the funds that are required to be paid in calendar 2026 are already in our
[9:13] reserve funds. The additional funds which we are generated by the department will go to
[9:21] to pay the capital obligations for next year, 2027, as well as provide an operational
[9:27] cushion for the department to operate every month from the time that fees are received
[9:36] by the residents generally in January.
[9:40] And I would remind the board that this year, 93% of the fees assessed to residents were
[9:51] collected on time within the specified period.
[9:55] So with that, I would summarize that 340,000 is a good number.
[10:05] We see a very positive trend for that.
[10:08] Every indication is that that will continue through this fire season.
[10:14] Thank you.
[10:15] Could you back up to the other slide?
[10:18] Okay.
[10:21] I believe that visible there. Oh, excuse me, I had to end up that. Thank you.
[10:28] These are ballot sheet numbers. These are assets and liabilities. You won't see much
[10:35] change on this report from month to month, but what you will, because the assets and liabilities
[10:42] they remain real roughly the same.
[10:45] What you will see is the number,
[10:48] third number from the bottom.
[10:51] Oh, right there.
[10:53] Again, the then in time of $340,198.
[10:58] 12 minutes adds to our equity,
[11:01] thus increases our assets.
[11:04] So we have, as a department, a net value,
[11:09] This is book value, we own more than we owe by $1,477,450, $450, $490.
[11:25] Chairman, that's my financial report.
[11:28] All right.
[11:28] Thank you, Pat.
[11:31] Let's see here.
[11:35] Allen Burns, number five, if there's no any questions on the financials?
[11:41] I was wondering with the 471,000 for operations this year does that include that as an expense does that include or is that like running the fire department and does it include the academy or is that separate if we can the best way to answer that Olivia is to look at the categories themselves.
[12:03] Okay, Doug, back up the slide, please.
[12:10] There it is, okay.
[12:12] The category, the categories are off to the left, okay.
[12:18] Olivia, what you see on the board here is a report
[12:24] that's prepared by Affinity HR.
[12:27] This is a condensation and a compilation of the detailed report,
[12:33] which I and I presume all the rest of the board received from Michael May today.
[12:38] It's a big thing. It contains all of the detail. Literally every invoice, every receipt for my
[12:47] category and it's voluminous as you have seen. He condenses that into the summary
[12:55] which provides a snapshot of the district's financial picture in one view that we can look at.
[13:05] Where you see cost of goods sold, expenditures, not operating revenues, other revenues, total expenditures.
[13:13] These are categories that we provide for summary.
[13:17] each one of each one of the numbers here corresponds to the actual general ledger category in the QuickBooks in the entire QuickBooks account system.
[13:30] I just didn't see it because it was too much. I tried to convince that.
[13:36] Does that answer your question?
[13:39] Okay. All right. Everything good? Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Number five. Review update of payable line of credit.
[13:50] We need authorization to raise it.
[13:56] No, that all of it, Jeff, was just to amend the agenda. Right.
[14:00] to $450,000, and that's the limit on what we can.
[14:05] That is the amount of the current, that is the limit of the current payroll line of credit
[14:15] that has been negotiated with Affinity HR, $450,000.
[14:26] And I'm just wondering the anticipation, I had the list on the one we're supposed to
[14:32] get in the page.
[14:33] These checks.
[14:34] So there must be some money coming in pretty soon, I have some information that will
[14:40] help with that.
[14:42] Okay.
[14:44] Review an update of the payroll line of credit.
[14:48] But the payroll line of credit is in fact a line of credit that has been offered to
[14:54] us by Affinity HR.
[14:56] It is used exclusively for payroll.
[15:00] That is making sure that the firefighters that are deployed and the firefighters who service locally here are paid on time. That is the only category for which that those funds can be used. There is at the current date. This is August 20th, 2026. The amount drawn on the payroll line of credit
[15:29] budget is a few dollars under $400,000.
[15:35] That was the amount of the payroll line of credit that the board had authorized to
[15:42] spend as per the amended agenda I'll be asking today for the board to authorize expenditures
[15:48] for the full amount of the line of credit.
[15:51] This assures that our firefighters and those who are out earning revenue for us, those
[15:57] who are at home here protecting us are paid on time okay okay so that is
[16:07] the that is the amount drawn on the line of credit a few dollars under 400
[16:12] thousand okay could I continue before I go to that motion okay there are our
[16:24] Our primary source of revenue are the deployments and our customer, if you will, is the state
[16:35] of Utah.
[16:38] After the completion of each deployment, there is an individual invoice for that unit
[16:49] and the truth that you'll see numerous invoices there on the board which is to your right.
[16:58] You will see a summary of the invoices which are owed to us by the state of Utah.
[17:08] They will be paid sometime between next week and seven to eight weeks from now.
[17:17] The amount of those invoices, the amount owed to us and submitted, there is an invoice
[17:23] number attached to each one of those numbers is $1,129,834.
[17:32] So our crews are out there doing a good job for us, okay?
[17:42] There's any number of different ways that you can analyze that.
[17:46] I would offer this as an analysis.
[17:49] We owe on the payroll line of credit, which is effective other than the capital leases.
[17:54] This is our, this is our own, it will call it current debt.
[17:57] We owe $400,000.
[17:59] We put that above $1,129,800, $8,834, and we get a 35%, meaning we owe to affinity for
[18:13] the payroll line of credit, 30% of what we have, of what the department has earned.
[18:19] That, okay, $400,000, $450,000 is a big number.
[18:27] It's a big number, okay?
[18:29] No one here will dispute that.
[18:34] That's a big number, okay?
[18:37] You should be aware of that.
[18:38] We're making the board imminently aware of that.
[18:44] But you should also understand that we are owed
[18:49] and will collect the state of Utah as a good credit risk.
[18:55] We will collect $1,129,834 as of our operations today.
[19:02] day, okay? So we're in good shape. What the, what the, what the sequence does is create
[19:11] not a debt problem, but a cash flow problem. The problem is the state of Utah always pays
[19:19] that they doesn't, they don't pay promptly. We are lucky to get invoice payments on
[19:24] voices inside of 30 days, they can extend longer, but ultimately we'll get them.
[19:35] In order to keep our employees, our employees, firefighters paid and our bill settled,
[19:43] we need a line of credit, which has been generously offered to us by, by, by, by
[19:54] there, the cash that is currently in our operating account, a check of which we have the check
[20:01] number that's been sent to us in the mail by the state of Utah and an increase in $50,000
[20:08] in the line of credit to the stated maximum. Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that the board
[20:16] approve draws on the line of credit to the full value to the full amount of
[20:22] 450,000 dollars. Okay, I have a second on that. I ask a question. Sure. So if we
[20:30] have 300 and you stated we have different accounts with different amounts. I'm
[20:36] sorry. You stated that we have different accounts with different amounts in
[20:41] there that will go for its payroll so I'm not sure I'm sorry I'm not sure
[20:46] to understand the question okay can you put up on the our account the $357,000
[20:51] that we are in plus right now in black oh this number yes so why do we need
[21:00] the next to 50,000 but you said we've got different accounts we've got different
[21:04] money's forward. Okay. And day-to-day expenses. Does that make sense? It does. And I understand
[21:11] it and it's a good question. It's important that everyone on the board understand the answer
[21:16] to the question.
[21:19] I don't know if there are any accountants here. I certainly am not one, but there
[21:23] are two. There are two methods of accounting. There is there is cash accounting and there is a
[21:30] cruel accounting. Cash accounting is pretty simple, but it's so simple that it is not approved
[21:41] for business. It's not approved by the IRS. It's basically, how much money do I have in my bank
[21:51] account. How much money do I owe?
[21:58] That's a simple form of accounting. The accrual form
[22:07] is understood by CPAs and accountants. I understand the basis of it and it's good sound
[22:17] principles, which means that income is recognized in the period which it's earned, and expenses are
[22:26] recognized in the period which they are incurred.
[22:32] Okay. That is the basis for a cruel accounting.
[22:37] And as such, the question, if you didn't ask this specifically, you tell me if I'm
[22:45] You're stating your question, you're asking why are we asking for a $50,000 increase
[22:54] at expenditure on the line of credit when we have net revenue of $340,000.
[23:02] The answer to that is cash flow and time.
[23:07] In the end, in the ultimate end, a cruel accounting and cash accounting arrive at the same
[23:15] number but the way that we operate and these are generally accepted accounting
[23:22] principles this is you see a cruel numbers here that's the reason there is
[23:27] there is a discrepancy between what we show as revenue and and what we have
[23:35] in our bank account okay and basically the answer to the question to your
[23:41] question. Why is there a difference? The answer is timing.
[23:50] I'm sorry, there's no problem.
[23:54] Is that the answer?
[23:56] It's a bank assemble. If the state made us all the money, the oldest today, we'd be
[24:02] $359,000. That's the simple example.
[24:06] Thank you. You don't have that money in the bank, but we're expecting that.
[24:09] Yes, and if that's and him probably offered a way more succinct of answer than I did, okay,
[24:22] which is if we if we had that money right there, which we have earned, okay, we would have
[24:32] a positive, we'd have a positive cash balance in the operating account of 347,000.
[24:39] And actually, it'd probably be more than that right now because this was at the end of July.
[24:44] The last section on there is probably billing in August already.
[24:50] So that would not have been included in that number, so it was actually higher than that.
[24:56] Okay
[25:00] Yes, I've made them I believe I've made the motion to all right to increase
[25:06] Motion has been made to authorize the increase to 450,000. Can I have a second? Please?
[25:11] All in favor
[25:13] Hi anybody opposed
[25:19] I'm sorry, I'm not going to vote Olivia abstains
[25:23] All right
[25:27] number six
[25:29] So, update and policies and procedures, manual revision.
[25:35] That was it.
[25:36] I'm working on that and then I'm going to coordinate with the Chief Wolf and some other
[25:43] things we're going to put into that.
[25:48] Okay.
[25:50] I know you had talked about the Biden obsessions.
[25:53] I don't know if you've gotten that far or yet or not.
[25:55] No, I'm starting to go through and then I might put some up.
[25:58] But I think that I'm going to be coordinating with Chief Wolf on some other things that we're going to get in there before we do that, right?
[26:04] Okay, yep, very good. Thank you.
[26:07] All right.
[26:09] Number seven, a member of the month.
[26:11] July, 2026.
[26:15] Is it a member of the month?
[26:16] I am.
[26:19] So I remember the month this year, one of my wildland employees.
[26:25] I brought him in this year as an engine boss force.
[26:31] Exceptional oil and oil employee.
[26:33] He's got 18 years in the oil and oil worker.
[26:36] He brings a wealth of knowledge and experience in oil and oil.
[26:40] He has taken over one of our engines this year.
[26:43] And he has led the crew to various successes.
[26:47] He's a good friend and has become a great asset to our agency.
[26:51] So I recommend that he was 41 this year.
[26:55] Very good.
[26:56] Thank you.
[26:58] Sure.
[26:59] I had a question from a community member a few days ago about our deployed teams and things.
[27:06] I thought it would be good to review that with the community as well as far as what the fire department, you know, does provide.
[27:14] When he talked about day-to-day operations, they have 4 firemen on duty 24 hours a day, including two AMS.
[27:23] We have 5 deployable units. When all 5 of those units are deployed, does it decrease our capacity to provide service to the community, not by one I would have.
[27:35] That crew is here 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
[27:40] All the deployed units provide a source of revenue so that as residents of Dameron Valley, we don't have to pay the cost of providing service 24 hours a day.
[27:52] Does that make sense?
[27:55] To give credit to those deployed units, they work 16 hour days, seven days a week for two weeks, and get two days off in between.
[28:07] That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing to provide our community with 24-7 fire coverage.
[28:16] So I think we owe a lot to those that not only are employee in month but hopefully let all of our employees know we appreciate what they're doing for our community.
[28:26] I have to know the reserve, but it's very well aware of our support and our day-to-day actions and the
[28:31] board support that allows us and the special office while I'm in the vision to do what we do daily, and I can touch on that when I get to the
[28:39] outlook session, and so we use that serve.
[28:43] Thank you.
[28:45] Is that it?
[28:46] Yeah.
[28:47] Okay.
[28:48] Chief report.
[28:50] Chief Reefers.
[28:50] I came out of that, sort of be surprised.
[28:54] I don't know if I have trouble speaking.
[28:56] I want to have the chase on that.
[28:58] Any operations are doing great.
[29:00] You guys have four personal staff, 24 staff.
[29:03] Respond to our name, those calls.
[29:04] Traffic accidents.
[29:06] They did a rope rescue just last week.
[29:09] Or more like what's the one I've put.
[29:10] They have a great amount of capacity to do.
[29:13] As well, we have a training division of the U.S.
[29:16] The training currently ongoing.
[29:23] That's another one of our programs that we do what I'm going to train.
[29:29] So to get to what CUNY might be concerned about, is did G-Freefer ask for a fee increase
[29:34] last year?
[29:35] No.
[29:37] Is G-Freefer can ask for a fee increase this year?
[29:40] No.
[29:41] Okay?
[29:42] Good to that.
[29:43] Out.
[29:43] G-Freefer refused that.
[29:45] Why does he do it?
[29:47] Okay.
[29:47] Okay, we can talk and move in the Trederport 18-18, but let me see.
[29:53] Chief Reaper made a budget, give the board the approved in that budget.
[30:00] I said, this wildland division, that we operate, three residents, peace, peace, love, which is why we do it. We, too, make no point, six million dollars. We have surpassed that, in August. Why did I put it in 1.6 million? I don't want to say it's easy to get to, but it also keeps my budget low, so I'm not always paying, and put it too much cash for myself. Why else would I put it in 1.6 million?
[30:28] Because my goal as a fire chief, and I'm very good at it, I've been doing this long time, this is not complicated stuff.
[30:35] Plus I have people like to do it, they do it, and I'm not going to next.
[30:39] We made 1.6. We are now at 2 million. What does that mean? That means when we start cutting this plane, we pay for our fire.
[30:48] I'm fully here.
[30:51] 1.6 is what we need, okay? We're at 2 million.
[30:56] Why are we a few million?
[30:58] Because our thresholds do fly, we're going to try to get there.
[31:00] Why would we try to make 2.5 million?
[31:04] Because when I got here and took this job, this budget was a business.
[31:07] I almost didn't pay it.
[31:09] There's no money.
[31:10] How do I connect?
[31:11] How do I do?
[31:12] Well, I have to have a certain skill set and this is it.
[31:16] We are making more money.
[31:18] We are pushing our wallet program hard.
[31:20] Thank you to the board for their support.
[31:23] Thank you for the type 6.
[31:24] we received this year. We are looking to make money. What we're gonna do with that
[31:29] money is not spending, I'm not gonna hire more people. I'm not gonna spend it on
[31:34] things for the chief. I'm gonna take that money. Well, people will be spending the
[31:48] That money is going to go back.
[31:49] We're open for a few hundred thousand dollars, right?
[31:53] Why are we able to put in a few hundred thousand dollars?
[31:54] Because the more we put in there, the more we put in the reserves of this district.
[32:00] When we put that money in the reserves of this district, what does that mean?
[32:04] That means we have a very wide credit.
[32:05] and it's a line of credit, but we don't touch unless we have a line of credit.
[32:10] I'm borrowing 100 a day for a layer, or hoping it.
[32:13] It's borrowed because we have it coming.
[32:16] That's the reason we're doing that.
[32:18] Keep what happens if we put 400,000 dollars in the bank?
[32:21] Well, we don't have to borrow the line of credit as much.
[32:26] Explain this to the board. Explain this to the community what I'm going to do again,
[32:29] because I think some people have a hard time understanding it.
[32:32] I am here to teach these levels.
[32:35] The board understands that.
[32:37] They are here also to support the level of services community.
[32:43] You guys have a better class for our emergency education.
[32:46] You got staffing the D10FPS1710, whether you think you need it or not, it's here.
[32:51] And I'm going to teach it here.
[32:52] When you call, they're going to show up.
[32:54] When you have a housewife, they're on that sort of one guy or two.
[32:57] They're going to serve four. Why? So they can go in and put your fire out like we did before.
[33:03] We're here to affect many. This program is ready for them to keep these up.
[33:08] This program is ready for them to stabilize this district budget.
[33:14] I appreciate the board support. But I want to make that clear.
[33:17] I have the Chief in doing this video. And I love doing it.
[33:21] I love being your Chief. I'm your Chief. I'm here anytime you visit with me.
[33:29] We are very successful this year and I expect us to be more successful, and the more we can be successful, the more we can make sure that we're not passing a fee burden to the community.
[33:42] That's the goal.
[33:43] So we've heard it from each day, tonight, the Chief will not be asking for any fee burden.
[33:48] Alright, so thank you very much.
[33:50] Thank you, Chief.
[33:51] Any questions
[33:57] for the Chief? Well, he's still here,
[34:01] before he goes and rests.
[34:05] I was just asking if anybody had a question.
[34:10] Thank you, Chief.
[34:12] Okay, onto number nine, seasonal fire outlook and update, Chief Cox.
[34:19] You're sort of throwing a touchful or boom slight kind of touch on the appreciation of our
[34:25] wild land we do that has toward the more.
[34:28] And especially in the purchase of our March 1362 which is a new one we put in service
[34:32] and shoot.
[34:33] As you can see it alone has gone out over three times, maxed with everything else we've
[34:39] done.
[34:39] Those three times is generated close to if not more than 180,000 hours for the party.
[34:48] Almost, almost considered to say it's paid for itself, not if there is, but it does, right?
[34:54] It's also allowed us to have a chance to have three engines on the board along with our type 2 animals in our type 1 rented scene.
[35:02] So our wild land program this year has done very well, not super proud of it.
[35:08] We've got close to 20 personnel dedicated to our wild land program.
[35:11] But those 20 personnel, not only do they do a walling appointments, they are also, if
[35:18] anybody has been familiar with our CFC provided shipping area that is over now located,
[35:24] they are the ones that go out and do that work too.
[35:27] If you've noticed some of you who have been to your house, who have been to your location
[35:30] which have done shipping on your health homes, those are the same personnel that do that.
[35:36] That is the service provided in no cost to the community through our walling program in
[35:41] and grants that we have done in the CFC.
[35:44] So I want everybody, the board,
[35:46] I want someone to understand truly,
[35:48] what our Wal-Land Department does,
[35:50] what our Wal-Land crews are capable of,
[35:52] and how involved they are in our department.
[35:56] We also use our Wal-Land folks to backstaff
[36:00] the fire department next year on days
[36:03] where weather conditions in the Allen Valley
[36:05] and the adjacent areas are heightened.
[36:08] We are currently in a high fire danger, all throughout Southern Utah, and we're also currently in state, one fire restrictions.
[36:16] So, as everybody in the room knows, the board's well aware that fire has happened when they start everywhere.
[36:22] Well, implementing the programs that we have, I am proud to say, in damn I'm about a year to date, we have burned one acre and one tent in damn I'm about.
[36:33] So, that's something that with your support, we've been able to do and provide that level of service to the debt and district.
[36:40] With how many buyers?
[36:42] Four.
[36:43] Four buyers, one acre and one tenth.
[36:48] That's all, that's all.
[36:50] Any questions off the board on our volume program or on our volume?
[36:53] Seat-a-lot look looks great.
[36:55] As you can see, we're only in.
[36:57] It's certainly going to be obvious.
[36:58] This is an exceptionally monetary wise bringing back to the agency, but I anticipate at least
[37:04] another month and a half of consistent diplomas.
[37:07] This year we have set new records, we have set new highs, we have had a capability twice
[37:13] this year of deploying all five resources fully set at the same time.
[37:19] That's 18 to 20 personnel deployed at one time.
[37:23] So it's taking the support and the board's help and the board to accomplish the goals.
[37:27] Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you Chief Cox. Any questions for Chief
[37:34] Cox? No? Okay. Thanks. Just to thank you. All right. All right. Now, number 10, this
[37:46] is the one I've been waiting for.
[37:49] Resignation as Board Chair, request for nomination of new
[37:53] board chair discussing both. I'm going to step down from the chair. I can't
[38:01] thank you guys enough for the opportunity to serve the community as a chair
[38:05] in term chair. That's what I came in as and I'm going out as. So yeah it's been
[38:12] it's been a great experience and opportunity. So at this point I guess we can
[38:22] And what he wants to be nominated, to make a nomination?
[38:30] Yes, please.
[38:30] I have for the, yeah, I'm for the second option.
[38:34] First off, just let me, let me say to the board and to the community.
[38:40] We so much appreciate the dedication and
[38:45] the service that Alan Burns has provided.
[38:48] as chair or interim chair, whatever the title, he has led the board,
[38:58] conducts the meeting and provides service to the board and the community that doesn't need to be recognized for his contribution.
[39:09] As I understand, his intent is to resign as chairman of the board but to remain as a member at large.
[39:17] and we are grateful and privileged to have him with that.
[39:22] Mr. Chairman, I nominate Kim Slyte as the new board chair.
[39:29] Okay.
[39:30] In a second on that, or just to make him accept that nomination or we'll talk about
[39:37] it.
[39:40] Sure.
[39:45] Is it a nomination or a plan?
[39:47] There is there is a nomination ugly chairman's way right there was an
[39:54] nomination and anybody want a second there all in favor you want to invite
[40:07] me a discussion sure yeah any discussion on that yeah there's one arm
[40:20] Russell well I guess there's no discussion took a vote on Kim slight
[40:30] domination as chair chairman of the board here all in favor all right thank you
[40:40] Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. And then I guess I'll finish the agenda for tonight. Number 11, a discussion and vote. Vote a no confidence.
[40:56] So Olivia Anderson's board member, Pat Johnson.
[41:00] Thank you.
[41:02] A closed meeting of the board was held at 6 o'clock p.m. this evening.
[41:13] All board members were invited, four board members were present.
[41:18] Olivia Anderson was not present.
[41:21] The laws of the state of Utah and our chartering documents stipulate
[41:27] that nearly all meetings are open meetings to the public as this is.
[41:31] There are certain circumstances wherein a meeting may be closed.
[41:37] I will quote from Utah Code,
[41:44] Section 52-4-205,
[41:48] purposes of closed meeting.
[41:49] A closed meeting may be held for discussion of the character,
[41:56] professional competence or physical or mental health of an individual which was the reason which
[42:03] that meeting was held and to which the chairman attested. Okay. The meeting was held, it was convened
[42:14] at 6.05. There was an open and frank discussion among all of the board members present. We were
[42:22] not able to receive Olivia's comments, her input at all, which was frankly disappointing.
[42:39] Nevertheless, the board has met in close session to consider the conduct and unauthorized
[42:45] actions of board member Olivia Anderson.
[42:48] Olivia has, among other things, repeatedly used her board credentials to enable unauthorized
[42:55] access to other governmental agencies without the knowledge of authorization by or assignment
[43:03] by the board, primarily for the private benefit of herself rather than primarily for the benefit
[43:09] of the Damron Valley Special Service District.
[43:12] In every instance, at least six have been enumerated, knowledge of her actions came to
[43:20] the attention of the board after the fact, blind sighting the board and DVF are.
[43:28] Contrary to her oath of office, she switches freely between Olivia Anderson board member
[43:34] and Olivia Anderson private citizen to conceal her actions, avoid accountability to the board
[43:42] and disguise her intent.
[43:45] Once the oath of office has been taken,
[43:47] it cannot be discarded or disregarded
[43:50] to further personal or private interests.
[43:54] Per the current Damman Valley Special Services District,
[43:58] policies and procedures manual,
[44:00] Section C, Ethical Behavior Policy,
[44:04] Employee Code of Ethics, Prohibited Conduct,
[44:08] Disqualification from acting on DVFSD business.
[44:13] No current employee or officer shall engage in any activity or transaction,
[44:21] which is or would be to a reasonable person,
[44:25] appear to be in conflict with the proper discharge of official duties,
[44:30] which impairs or would to a reasonable person,
[44:33] Appear to impair the employee's independence or judgment of action in the performance of
[44:40] official duties and fail to disqualify himself or herself from official actions in those
[44:46] incidents where conflict occurs.
[44:50] Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that a vote of no confidence be entered against board member
[44:56] Olivia Anderson.
[45:03] Any discussion from anybody else on this discussing and voting on it? Yeah, I just, I, like, with Pat had mentioned, I think that the accusations and the things that have been presented within the mean that we had today were the living and not being able to, I guess, defend those.
[45:32] or enlighten us on the things that were part of the closed session that I don't feel I would myself abstain from voting until we have more clarity related to the accusations that have been brought against her.
[45:56] I just don't feel comfortable with somebody not being able to, I guess, meet their accusers
[46:02] sort of that.
[46:08] Mr. Chairman, I would remind the board that Olivia received the invitation to be present
[46:17] she was informed of the purpose for the closed meeting and apparently made the decision
[46:25] on her own, not to attend.
[46:28] I agree, Doug, that the Olivia's absence from that meeting did not provide the full
[46:40] opportunity, however, I believe that the circumstances presented were clear and that
[46:54] the vote of no confidence is justified.
[47:00] I would like to state that, first of all, it seems as though you are the talking head
[47:05] for the board, you don't have the authority to remove from my position because I was appointed
[47:11] by the County Commissioners, they have the authority to do so.
[47:15] How could these, the allegations that are confidential,
[47:19] that if you brought forward, we're inaccurate
[47:23] and I don't have to answer to you.
[47:25] This is not true.
[47:26] You have harassed me from the beginning
[47:29] because I don't agree with your opinions.
[47:32] And I have said, even I had a meeting with the chief
[47:36] and I asked him, do you think it's acceptable for me
[47:38] to be able to go to other boards meetings
[47:40] and go see how they run things, and he said yes.
[47:44] Is that okay to talk to other people?
[47:46] I talked to all other boards, board members,
[47:49] these are their meetings, attend their meetings
[47:52] to understand what our job is.
[47:55] And I have to say that this board is
[47:57] woefully unprepared to make decisions
[48:00] for a large, multi-million dollar fire department.
[48:04] And if you don't even understand how it's run,
[48:08] And it doesn't seem as though anyone's very interested, except for me.
[48:13] And that is, and so, yeah, go ahead and proceed.
[48:17] And I have done all my jobs.
[48:19] I have posted.
[48:20] I have helped with getting the other Russians and the type 6 that we got.
[48:26] I helped everything with that.
[48:27] I have posted the recordings.
[48:30] I have not stolen anything.
[48:32] I have not personally gained monetarily or other status or otherwise.
[48:38] with any of this. My main concern is our residents. That's it.
[48:43] Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I appreciate that. I would state that Ms. Anderson's response is incomplete and self-serving.
[48:55] I would also remind the board that this is not a vote to remove Olivia from the board.
[49:02] It is a vote of no confidence if passed, which will be conveyed to the commissioners.
[49:08] The commissioners appointed all board members and the commissioners are the body that has the authority to remove any board member following this following the vote, whatever it may be.
[49:25] If it is a vote of no confidence,
[49:30] that information will be conveyed to the commissioners,
[49:32] at which point it is their decision.
[49:36] The subsequent two votes are to remove Olivia
[49:42] from her board assignments,
[49:45] which the board has the authority to do.
[49:49] I would just remind that this is not a vote
[49:52] to remove Olivia from the board.
[49:53] it's a vote of no confidence based upon her, based upon her actions, and that we will
[50:02] look to the county for further guidance.
[50:05] Okay.
[50:07] Yeah, I just, my comments on this is, your job is, your work is not, was not a question
[50:16] that some of the other things outside of your scope of your job that was, you know,
[50:23] brought to our attention, contacting other agencies with all of this.
[50:27] There's nothing written down that says I can't do that.
[50:29] There's nothing.
[50:31] Without any, you know, discussion with the board that you are going to do such things.
[50:37] I need to discuss the board.
[50:38] Well, I vote no confidence also, so I can't.
[50:50] I would appreciate hearing your responses early here and you know I either just
[51:00] point to me that you don't I think that's a lot of what was discussed was you
[51:05] know you didn't love things in the name of the board now discussing it with the
[51:10] board. And as a board member, that puts me in an
[51:15] opposite situation as well, I want to deal with those
[51:18] entities in the future as well. I feel like work should
[51:23] work together. And unfortunately, I don't see that. I
[51:26] would appreciate it to hear your comments about before
[51:29] I made a decision. But based on what was discussed,
[51:32] and unfortunately, you know, when we understand, I would
[51:36] have to say that I don't have any confidence.
[51:41] I
[51:47] I believe we should ask for a roll call that's it's appropriate. Ask for a roll call vote on the motion.
[51:54] Okay, let's have a roll call vote.
[51:57] All right, Doug Markham, I have a statement.
[52:01] Alan Burns, I vote no confidence. Pat Johnson, I vote no confidence.
[52:05] I'm sorry, I vote no confidence.
[52:10] You have a vote.
[52:13] I still have confidence in myself.
[52:17] All right, we'll move on to number 12.
[52:25] Discuss and vote.
[52:27] Removal of Illumina Anderson is Board Clerk.
[52:31] Okay. Mr. Chairman, with the affirmative majority vote of no confidence, I believe that
[52:45] it is appropriate that Olivia be relieved of her responsibilities as Board Clerk.
[52:54] Therefore, I move to remove Olivia Anderson as Board Clerk.
[53:06] take a roll call vote on that as well.
[53:08] I
[53:13] would say no, I believe she's confident to be board clerk
[53:16] and tell if there's a definitive answer
[53:20] through the County Board of Commissioners based
[53:22] on forwarding the vote of no confidence.
[53:28] I just, again, I just, you know, the work within the scope
[53:32] of this meeting and what we do is find
[53:35] that some of the outside things
[53:38] And you're using your position to get information out of other people without our authorization anyways, I vote no confidence.
[53:47] Ellen Burns, I vote no confidence and I vote to remove you from clerk.
[53:53] I vote to remove Olivia Anderson as board clerk.
[54:01] I
[54:05] vote to stay.
[54:07] I'm sorry, that was to abstain.
[54:09] No, to stay.
[54:10] To stay. Thank you.
[54:12] I'm sorry, Doug, your vote.
[54:14] Not being removed.
[54:16] Okay, three tests.
[54:18] Clerk until there's clarification and the decision on the part of the county commissioners.
[54:27] Okay, on number 13, discuss and vote removal of Olivia Anderson is records offers.
[54:42] Mr. Chairman, following the vote on agenda items 12 and 13, I vote two.
[54:48] I move for removal of the Anderson as records officer of the board.
[54:56] You need a second on that or just individual voting.
[55:02] You want to comment on that or no, it's hard to say it.
[55:04] Yeah, no, it was the same, this is for the same reason we interred the outcome of the, you know,
[55:12] kind of commissioners decision.
[55:16] Okay.
[55:17] Alan Burns, again, you know, I feel like you've done the job.
[55:24] Just, I've lost confidence in the ethics and all that other fiduciary things.
[55:33] We discussed earlier that came to light and I vote to remove you from record's office also.
[55:42] Pat, I vote to remove Olivia as that record officer.
[55:50] Kim's line vote to remain.
[55:52] Olivia Anderson, I vote to remain.
[55:56] He's already dead.
[55:58] Okay.
[55:59] Okay, okay, let's see here.
[56:03] Do they pass or what?
[56:06] Passions.
[56:07] Not wait, I have two thirds.
[56:09] No, a pass or three to two.
[56:13] Number 14, items for next month.
[56:20] Yes, Pat.
[56:22] Mr. Chairman.
[56:30] I have one item for next month.
[56:35] As an agenda item for the 17th September board meeting, I will ask the board to approve a resolution.
[56:43] A resolution to the Department of National Resources disavowing any knowledge of or
[56:49] authorization to Olivia Anderson, DVF SSD board member for any contact to discussions with
[56:56] and representations that she is and or the designated representative of DVF are on any D and R matter.
[57:07] Olivia Anderson has received a vote of no confidence from the board for this
[57:11] and other actions taken entirely on her own with no knowledge of the board until after the fact.
[57:19] That'll be an item for next month's agenda.
[57:22] Okay. Anything else we want to add to the agenda?
[57:29] I'll say the normal.
[57:31] Okay.
[57:34] All right.
[57:38] Public comment. Public comment time.
[57:44] Public comment is taken by the board following completion of district business,
[57:49] prior to adjournment. Please stuff to the podium.
[57:52] We'll need to move that back in the middle here.
[57:57] State your name, maximum of two minutes per commenter to the board.
[58:06] Commons should be specific to the agenda item.
[58:10] Commons do not require a response from the board.
[58:14] Questions for the board or the fire chief?
[58:16] Reefer can be addressed prior to or after the meeting.
[58:20] Chief Reefer and Fire Station during regular business hours or by appointment.
[58:27] Board members may be contacted in person by a Damien Bailey Fire Rescue email or by phone
[58:34] or by text.
[58:36] During the chief's presentation the chief may elect to respond to relevant questions and
[58:41] comments.
[58:42] Okay, so open for comments, two minutes.
[58:45] I
[59:00] want to thank the board for tackling a very difficult subject tonight.
[59:13] It's very unfortunate that this has happened as each of you is on this board looking to work
[59:21] with the other board members to accomplish what this district has set forth to accomplish,
[59:27] which is captured in the mission statement which has been well defined over the past six
[59:32] years. So I think this board we're doing the work. This is very unpleasant. It's very
[59:38] difficult.
[59:42] I want to congratulate the district and the fire board on the successes of this
[59:46] year.
[59:49] And I also want to frame that well I do not have all the information you have.
[59:59] I have
[1:00:00] Is there an ordinance or a direct intention? Is attempting to unwind much of the work that's been done here and put at risk the ability of this district to function?
[1:00:12] Each board member, potential board member, when the apply should be aware of what the mission statement is for this district. I know Miss Anderson has attended many meetings. She's well aware and many of us have been well aware of the things she's not in agreement with.
[1:00:30] But that does not mean that you can become a member of a board and see the handedly try
[1:00:37] to put a hold on the bottom of the boat for whatever reason.
[1:00:42] So I encourage you to stay the course.
[1:00:45] We congratulate the new chair, thank you, Ellen Burns.
[1:00:49] I know you didn't want the position.
[1:00:51] And you took it anyway.
[1:00:54] Doug, I thank you for your good work on this board and had, of course, the interiors
[1:00:59] there's a heavy load. So stay the course. Thank you to the Fire Department, to the
[1:01:05] Wildman teams that are being used in John this year.
[1:01:12] Thanks, Curtin.
[1:01:17] Anything good?
[1:01:18] I'll try to mark them.
[1:01:23] I guess after hearing what Curtin's
[1:01:25] jealous title is, Advisor to the Board, is this a self-appointed title, or was this a title
[1:01:31] from the county. So the county has appointed him as an advisor.
[1:01:38] Excuse me, that's all of the current number, right? Yeah, I'm sorry, I misunderstood the question.
[1:01:45] Could you ask it again? I'm sorry. Oh, so he just, why did you give her a new title?
[1:01:51] He just identified himself as the advisor to the board. Is this a title that you gave him?
[1:01:58] Is it a self-appointed title or was this a title from the county?
[1:02:03] Thank you for the question.
[1:02:05] The answer to that is Kurt, prior to the expiration of his term of service on December 31st,
[1:02:14] 2025, had numerous years of service, more than five, I don't know the exact amount.
[1:02:22] Doug has a wealth of institutional and contemporary knowledge.
[1:02:30] So we, the board, this board, appointed Kurt to a one year term as advisor to the board.
[1:02:43] That is unpaid.
[1:02:44] He has no vote, he can't speak for the board, but he answers questions, retrieved data that helps the board
[1:02:59] understand what was done in the past, why was done, and what a good course of action maybe is.
[1:03:07] So the board appointed him?
[1:03:09] The board appointed him, that's the short answer.
[1:03:10] Yeah.
[1:03:12] That was kind of this title before, but okay.
[1:03:16] Thank you.
[1:03:29] Any Robertson?
[1:03:31] I find it offensive, this whole proceeding.
[1:03:34] What a witch hunt.
[1:03:35] What a witch hunt.
[1:03:36] The only individual who should be removed from this board, the standard, is sitting in front
[1:03:40] me, which is Pat Johnson.
[1:03:42] Thank you.
[1:03:46] Like I thought.
[1:03:48] Did you just go to the podium or do you need to be recognized?
[1:03:51] Rick, would you request a waiver?
[1:03:58] Yes.
[1:04:00] As long as you can hear me.
[1:04:01] Two minutes, sir.
[1:04:03] Rick Johnson, resident of the Valley for not only 35 years, very, very involved with the
[1:04:10] fire department even prior to it's becoming an SSD version.
[1:04:16] Part of the original board, how long has it been now?
[1:04:23] We put together the new improved version of the fire department,
[1:04:31] since it's been a tremendous success.
[1:04:34] My only fear is that I've seen the inclination of board degradation
[1:04:41] just similar to what it was seven years ago and 11 years ago. If you follow
[1:04:50] part from within because of infiltration of not like-minded people of the I just
[1:05:00] warn you against these people because this is how it starts and if you can't
[1:05:05] get people that work together on a board, come to a consensus, pass it, and move on.
[1:05:15] You can see the effect of a great board, but in the last, however long it's been, year,
[1:05:25] I feel bad for you guys, and else, not saying that it's not a good old boy system, you just
[1:05:34] have to have the best and the communities position in mind and not be self-serving and
[1:05:46] I've seen that with this new board so thank you for watching your posts. Thank you.
[1:06:01] Well, first of all, I think Olivia is, no, because I've seen her, does anybody else
[1:06:10] have a comment?
[1:06:11] Can we go back to her or not?
[1:06:14] Well, they can't.
[1:06:16] No.
[1:06:16] Oh, afterwards.
[1:06:18] Open for that.
[1:06:23] Any other comments?
[1:06:31] One once.
[1:06:32] I did have a question, not a comment.
[1:06:37] You have two minutes.
[1:06:39] I understand that I was informed that we were going to have a county commissioner here.
[1:06:45] Was he here for your closed meeting and snuck out the back door or did he just not want
[1:06:50] to face this?
[1:06:51] No.
[1:06:51] He said he won't roll ahead of you to the right, that is Devon Snow, deputy county attorney.
[1:06:58] I was told that Adam was going to be here.
[1:07:04] That's what you get from listening to rumors.
[1:07:07] You are so right.
[1:07:10] Deputy Attorney Snow was invited member of the closed meeting and he was gracious enough
[1:07:20] to stay for the public meeting.
[1:07:22] Well, thank you.
[1:07:23] I just recognize the calendar.
[1:07:29] Okay, and the other comments make a more, can I have a motion to adjourn this meeting?
[1:07:38] I have a question. I thought we were having questions at the end of our meetings as well,
[1:07:42] and I thought we were going to change the public comment guidelines.
[1:07:48] And our last meeting, we had all talked about that, and came up with some good ideas,
[1:07:53] and then it's just defaulted back to this.
[1:07:57] It's not only agenda, I have
[1:08:03] a motion to adjourn.
[1:08:06] Mr. Chairman, I motion to adjourn.
[1:08:09] Second.
[1:08:11] All in favor.
[1:08:13] Aye.
[1:08:14] All right.
[1:08:14] Motion meeting adjourned.
[1:08:18] Thank you all for coming.
[1:08:22] It's adjourned the most.
[1:08:23] You were getting a bad day.
[1:08:25] You were getting a bad day.
[1:08:26] You were getting a bad day.
[1:08:28] You were getting a bad day.
[1:08:31] No.
[1:08:31] It's all your fault.