1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,880 At all standards? A pledge and a laboŕ‚¬? 2 00:00:20,650 --> 00:00:26,950 Proposis. We get quick numbers two. Noel, tomorrow is 29th anniversary of a pretty important event in our country's 3 00:00:26,950 --> 00:00:28,450 history. Hopefully we'll read tomorrow. 4 00:00:28,450 --> 00:00:36,490 take a moment to take a bite that is going to prevent most of us to remember exactly we were 5 00:00:36,490 --> 00:00:40,480 in what happened. We're going to the roll call on please. 6 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:44,470 Out of here. Here. 7 00:00:46,690 --> 00:00:49,710 Here. Here. Here. Here. 8 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Here. Here. 9 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,180 all for us. Everybody out of line can hear me, I assume. 10 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:05,230 But we have nobody's 11 00:01:05,230 --> 00:01:09,870 saying anything. Okay, we have a lot of people on my mind. 12 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,620 So we have Liz 13 00:01:14,620 --> 00:01:21,620 Lyndon Burr, we have Abby, we have Andrea, we have Chris Carter ready and Terry Parker. 14 00:01:21,620 --> 00:01:27,440 We have Warren's iPad, we have Michael Miller, 15 00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:32,660 no one can hear, hold on Abby, 16 00:01:35,770 --> 00:01:36,570 I have done nothing 17 00:01:36,570 --> 00:01:37,390 different this time, 18 00:01:42,740 --> 00:01:48,820 that's it, it's showing that I can hear you hear me, hear me, 19 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,000 hear me 20 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,780 out loud. 21 00:02:01,750 --> 00:02:07,730 I keep going with you to see your fur, I'm going to access the public comment to board meetings, 22 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:11,750 You know, typically, I've been kind of rolling through this, but we have a lot of people. 23 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:14,730 First, we want to make sure we remember this. 24 00:02:15,130 --> 00:02:16,990 It didn't be blackboard and planning commission meetings. 25 00:02:16,990 --> 00:02:21,110 It's open to the public in person, even remotely, but are not public meetings per se. 26 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:26,470 Public attendees both in person and remote participants who wish to come on as in items. 27 00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:31,730 If technology works, we'll be given an opportunity and be in each meeting to do so. 28 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:38,410 Basically, comments and questions, a little bit of gentlemen took two to three minutes. 29 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:42,630 Anyways, as I just speak longer than that, should arrange to be placed on the agenda beforehand 30 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:44,530 and appear in person at the meeting. 31 00:02:44,730 --> 00:02:47,970 Unless continuing circumstances happen in the board is contacted. 32 00:02:49,150 --> 00:02:51,710 General ground rules, our speaker will not be interrupted. 33 00:02:52,030 --> 00:02:54,510 There will be no cross-talk between members of the audience. 34 00:02:55,190 --> 00:02:59,230 The speaker will treat the proceedings and other speakers with dignity and respect. 35 00:02:59,750 --> 00:03:08,550 address in the issue in not personalities. If something is overlooked, it needs to be discussed on a new business, the floor will be reopened for public comment on that item. 36 00:03:11,980 --> 00:03:17,000 So that I'll take a motion to set the agenda. 37 00:03:19,470 --> 00:03:23,670 I'll make the motion we set the agenda as Britain. I'll suck in that. 38 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:38,690 So, good discussion, I'd like to have just a minute to add a Marvin Gates letter under the information updates below the union contract negotiations. 39 00:03:43,340 --> 00:03:47,960 Okay, I'll re-state with the Marvin Gates on there. I make a motion. 40 00:03:49,940 --> 00:03:51,200 Then I still suck in it. 41 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,540 Hobbes in favor, high in it. I was opposed. Right. Yes. 42 00:03:59,620 --> 00:04:01,160 All right, move on to public comment. 43 00:04:02,540 --> 00:04:08,660 I'm sure there's plenty. So, you want to try to hit the remote. First, you can't, you're still not working. 44 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,500 Is there anybody remote who has public comment? 45 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:21,900 Nobody's responding to chat, and I can't hear anybody, so I don't want to tell you. 46 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:22,720 It's what? 47 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Oh, we'll find it to the public comments and the folks who are here. 48 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:31,020 Gracie. 49 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:31,440 Mmm. 50 00:04:35,980 --> 00:04:37,300 I'm a Gracie Porter. 51 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,440 I think that's a matter of how many generations somebody's family has lived in this town. 52 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,640 It doesn't matter how many years they've lived here. 53 00:04:48,220 --> 00:04:49,160 They're not special. 54 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:55,320 they're not entitled to anything more than anything else. Anybody else who lives in this town. 55 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,480 We all have to live by the rules and regulations and laws, including our first human 56 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:08,500 right of free speech. No one can bend or break this law to suit their own purposes. 57 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:14,800 It is a violation of that amendment to dictate what we are allowed to say about 58 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:21,160 at 2.50 or anything else at a planning commission meeting or any other meeting or time. 59 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:28,920 The planning commission in select board I have heard all about of these problems and none have been fixed. 60 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:35,540 We do not need to repeat what we have done before. Please try something new and deny this request. 61 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,000 I'm asking you to think of hard about your vote. Is it worth it? 62 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:49,080 You're a voted to the select board to represent the whole town and all the citizens in it. 63 00:05:49,220 --> 00:05:57,100 To make decisions that have beneficial to the town and everybody who lives here, please do that. 64 00:05:57,580 --> 00:05:58,460 Thank you. 65 00:06:04,570 --> 00:06:06,150 On Barbara Monarchman. 66 00:06:06,470 --> 00:06:08,210 And I'm here to say the same thing. 67 00:06:08,310 --> 00:06:12,290 I said at the other meetings in regards to this commitment. 68 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:19,350 And that's that we carefully worked for a long time to make the 10 plan that we did. 69 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:23,990 And we have that 10 plan and it's been enacted and it's sort of ring well. 70 00:06:24,630 --> 00:06:32,590 And I think to ask to change it at the wrong time 71 00:06:32,590 --> 00:06:38,070 because the citizens were very hard to make that plan 72 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:46,550 and we can build a new one the next time around and everyone will be able to speak and everyone 73 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:54,470 will be able to have their input heard in regard to a new plan but the plan that we have now 74 00:06:54,950 --> 00:07:02,090 we all worked really hard and many of us were there and fought to get what we got and I think the 75 00:07:02,090 --> 00:07:08,230 thing is to simply keep them all we have because we got a new one coming up and we'll all be working. 76 00:07:09,150 --> 00:07:09,550 Thank 77 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:16,060 you. 78 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:16,380 Thank you. 79 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:17,680 Thank you. 80 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,840 My name is David Bean. 81 00:07:20,220 --> 00:07:20,760 Pretty much new. 82 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:21,900 Everyone watching this room. 83 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,900 I don't know a lot of the history of what's going on, however I do know the history of what 84 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:28,960 I've felt past year that I've been here. 85 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:42,240 So, in whatever context this is to let these two ladies as spoken to, I don't want my house feeling like there's an earthquake going on, and I hope that that fits in line with everyone else's opinion here. 86 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:57,790 I plan to take an act of part in this community moving forward. So, we have, I don't see that everyone's needs are being met here, and that I'm unhappy with the outcomes of this meeting. 87 00:07:57,790 --> 00:08:02,790 I will be taking more active role in this and I think that'll be supported by community as well. 88 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:05,430 Thank you. 89 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:06,010 Thank you. 90 00:08:06,010 --> 00:08:06,650 Thank you. 91 00:08:11,420 --> 00:08:12,180 Distribute me. 92 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:13,460 I have a secure address. 93 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,800 5, 5, 4, 5, 4, 5. 94 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,260 Yep. 95 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,760 My name is Jessica Brownson. 96 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,600 I've left here for 15 years. 97 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Recently, right up here in standing out with a Brooklyn mode. 98 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:49,680 I'm not going to pretend that I know all of the fancy things, but I do know that my husband and I are opposed to this little new change that I'm hearing about. 99 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:56,720 We are worried about what it could mean for our home. We love where we live. 100 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:07,760 We want to be able to continue living here the way that it is without the area of changing into an industrial use. 101 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:19,880 We are concerned that this collectively affect our home, our peace, our quiet, more than anything the ability to stay here long-term. 102 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,380 I'm losing the place that we call home. 103 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,640 My name is Elizabeth Lindyberg. 104 00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:30,820 I'm South Korea. 105 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,540 I just drove up here because I was on the chat. 106 00:09:34,180 --> 00:09:40,280 But the chat is disabled and I think I'm also muted so that when I said I had a public comment, I was not able. 107 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:41,160 I was not hurt. 108 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:49,380 What I would like to say is that I think that changing the zoning for this purpose sets a dangerous precedent. 109 00:09:49,380 --> 00:09:58,520 for future zoning and with the zoning rules the way they are there's a reason for that and just 110 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:07,020 picking, picking and choosing when we change them I don't think it's a sustainable or a wise choice. 111 00:10:08,180 --> 00:10:09,060 Thank you. 112 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,420 Have a good comment too. 113 00:10:24,580 --> 00:10:25,660 Are you reading or... 114 00:10:25,660 --> 00:10:29,240 Yeah, I'll read it to you guys, I just want to talk to you guys. 115 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,300 Dear members of the select board, as you know, full of sin and gravel is requesting the 116 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:38,860 select board directed to plant a commission to hold the public hearing for the purpose of 117 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:45,400 considering changing the planning map designation from agricultural residential to commercial 118 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,120 industrial. 119 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:50,000 I respectfully ask that you denied this request. 120 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:56,920 The current request to change the planning map designation of a single parcel was the 121 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:03,040 subject of public hearings before the Planning Commission in select board in 2024 in the 122 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:10,660 Planion Commission in 2025, a budding and area residence identified disturbances to the residential area 123 00:11:10,660 --> 00:11:17,500 from existing industrial operations. Disturbances to the budding residential areas from their 124 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:21,420 Industrial operation says not been minimized. 125 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:27,280 Third question before the DINB select board does not comply with the current DINB town plan, 126 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:32,140 because the service to the Abunding residential area has not been minimized. 127 00:11:32,140 --> 00:11:42,380 In 2025, over 220, over 200 people signed a petition to send it to the Danube Planning Commission 128 00:11:43,380 --> 00:11:50,360 to retain the current town plan, future land map use, and reject full of sand and gravel 129 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:57,260 proposal to amend the Danube's town plan, future land use map from agricultural rural 130 00:11:57,260 --> 00:12:04,160 residential to commercial industrial to enable expansion of core blasting unless and until 131 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:10,940 ongoing problems with property damage, asphalt, dunes, dust, noise and property 132 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:12,740 devaluation or addressed. 133 00:12:13,460 --> 00:12:20,560 The issues identified in the public hearing cell in 2024, in 2025, as described in the 2025 134 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,660 petition continue to exist. 135 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:28,040 Please, on of the petition, and deny this request to change the planning map, 136 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:33,880 desiccation of one parcel until the disturbances to the body, residential area, 137 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,680 have addressed and minimized. 138 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:37,340 Thank you. 139 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:47,580 So, I've messaged everybody that we're having some issues with hearing the speaker. 140 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Anybody who's online, please send me a message, and I will relay it. 141 00:12:53,640 --> 00:13:00,340 best I can do. I am getting messages. So as soon as everybody's done here I do have one message 142 00:13:00,340 --> 00:13:07,120 that I can read from Abby and if anybody else has anything online please send it to me. 143 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:12,740 Apologies again. Anybody has a better luck with technology. You're welcome to take 144 00:13:12,740 --> 00:13:13,480 meeting facility. 145 00:13:15,780 --> 00:13:17,820 I feel the time right now. What else to do here? 146 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:19,380 So can you bring more of the hot? 147 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,060 Gary there. 148 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,140 I have two things I want to raise in that issue. 149 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,580 I'd like to let the issues which other folks have 150 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:28,800 so I'll already address. 151 00:13:28,860 --> 00:13:31,840 It has to do with the select board and the select board 152 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,480 and the select board processes. 153 00:13:33,700 --> 00:13:38,080 And the first is that you all have select board members, 154 00:13:38,340 --> 00:13:40,940 you're also citizens of Dambi because we are as well. 155 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:44,000 And there's time for those roles for you to get concluded. 156 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,800 And you are both a select board member 157 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,660 of the citizen, and in this case, Thomas addressing the board as a citizen, and as a 158 00:13:51,660 --> 00:13:56,460 select board, you have well-established procedures around members of the community wanting to 159 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:57,640 address the select board. 160 00:13:57,740 --> 00:14:01,420 And I would really encourage you to make sure you could hear those as you would for any 161 00:14:01,420 --> 00:14:04,580 other member of the community who comes before this. 162 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,760 In this second point that I'd like to make is that to me this seems like a little bit of a 163 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:15,660 new to request as being made, not the specific request, but I would ask the select board to 164 00:14:15,660 --> 00:14:29,280 to make sure that it's prepared, that if in the future I come to you or any other citizen or taxpayer, again, it comes to you with a similar request to the right, a letter to the plan of commission to change a town plan. 165 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,160 Are you prepared to consider that as well, too, so that you're not doing a one-off. 166 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:42,420 But if I want to come here in a year and make a similar request for changing the designation that you'd be prepared to do that as well. 167 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,500 My name is Suzanne Cosby, I've lived in Dan Bay for over 52 years. 168 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Not that that matters. 169 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,800 I really want to keep the plan the way it is. It doesn't seem the right time to try to change the plan. 170 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:11,180 So I'm asking you to please understand that. 171 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:17,300 I have a letter here from my daughter Emily. She says, this is Emily Crosby writing, 172 00:15:17,820 --> 00:15:25,020 as a fifth generation member of the town of Danvy, this town was very special to my father and to me. 173 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:32,080 Changing the face of it by making the one ugly thing in the town bigger will detour our tourist trade 174 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:39,780 There are many shops and town that rely on tourism. I do hope that the select board will direct the planning commission 175 00:15:39,780 --> 00:15:48,520 To look into all of the factors that affect our town now and we'll definitely have an adverse effect as time goes on 176 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:51,120 Could I give that to you? 177 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,780 So, thank you. 178 00:15:58,020 --> 00:15:59,140 And that's it. 179 00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:01,400 I sent you a letter. 180 00:16:01,940 --> 00:16:04,770 And I have printed copies where you could like them. 181 00:16:05,540 --> 00:16:06,540 I'm not going to read it. 182 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,700 But I wanted to just point out the main points. 183 00:16:12,620 --> 00:16:16,840 And the first one is that this is the quest as akin to what's called spot-toning, 184 00:16:17,340 --> 00:16:19,080 which is generally found upon. 185 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:26,660 and it's considered legal and in the definition of a found that, perhaps, the most important 186 00:16:26,660 --> 00:16:32,580 criteria in determining spot zoning is the extent to which the disputed zoning is consistent 187 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:39,440 with the municipality's comprehensive plan. So, our time plan has an expiration date in two years. 188 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,460 We really do need to get going on it. It's quite a process. Those of us who served on the 189 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:49,920 commission notes, and it does say the next 190 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,360 of use is between residential light, commercial, 191 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,560 and commercial industrial earth extraction 192 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,300 operations occurs within the borrower area 193 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:00,580 and along Route 7 in the northern part of town. 194 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:03,180 These operations strive to minimize disturbance 195 00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:05,760 to the abiding residential area and the town 196 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,520 realizes the benefits of these operations. 197 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,340 And I think that we've heard over the last couple of years 198 00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:13,320 that the impacts could be minimized, 199 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,060 and they have not been. 200 00:17:15,980 --> 00:17:19,860 And so when we look at whether or not 201 00:17:19,860 --> 00:17:22,580 or request like this, it comprises our time plan 202 00:17:22,580 --> 00:17:24,100 and then the idea of changing it, 203 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:25,800 it actually already doesn't comply. 204 00:17:26,180 --> 00:17:29,920 But we'll have the opportunity to look at the time plan 205 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,060 a new within the next two years. 206 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,980 That this dimension that a petition was signed, that language 207 00:17:35,980 --> 00:17:40,140 was read, and I think it's important to recognize 208 00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:45,620 how much work people point into. It's not just the people in the village, the time that 209 00:17:45,620 --> 00:17:50,360 there was widespread all around town. It was presented to the planning commission. It should 210 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:55,180 be in your files for the planning committee record, so you can ask Jolly Taylor where it is 211 00:17:55,180 --> 00:17:58,360 because she was given all the copies of it. 212 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,180 So the other part of this that I find kind of amusing 213 00:18:04,180 --> 00:18:09,900 is the request to win the discussion at the Planning Commission to issues that are addressed by 214 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:12,460 So here's the Vermont Act of 50 Handbook. 215 00:18:12,740 --> 00:18:13,900 It's very extensive. 216 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,680 If you want to give a copy to every member of the Planning Commission 217 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,000 and we thought as to speak, look at it and say, 218 00:18:21,180 --> 00:18:22,560 well, wait, that's covered by Act of 50. 219 00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:24,920 Actually, Act of 50 covers just about everything 220 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 that we would be talking about as part of this. 221 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,100 So I think that our right to free speech is important 222 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:34,320 and I also think that the request is simply unrealistic. 223 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:37,620 I think I understand where it's coming from, 224 00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:44,140 but I'm a supporter of Act 250 through my work and I think it's a good law but it covers 225 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,420 pretty much everything you want to cover including town plans. So I respectfully request that 226 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:59,860 you did not request and I've got four copies here because I'm viewing Tom's a member of 227 00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:14,120 the 228 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:18,440 I'm just going to read it for the word here. 229 00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:22,630 We've been through this, it's Abby. 230 00:19:22,930 --> 00:19:24,210 She doesn't have a last name. 231 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:27,370 Abby, if you can send me a chat, with you last name. 232 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:29,150 I'll devote that to you at the board. 233 00:19:29,250 --> 00:19:30,130 That would be very helpful. 234 00:19:31,210 --> 00:19:33,750 People online, if you can do your full name, 235 00:19:34,110 --> 00:19:36,490 board with you, appreciate it. 236 00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:41,710 If I husband and I have just moved to 81 easy street 237 00:19:41,710 --> 00:19:43,190 from New Up spending time. 238 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,820 We are hoping to start a family here in a peaceful place in the mountains. 239 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:59,360 We don't know all the history of what's going on, but we hope we can live in a place as peaceful as when we purchase our home. 240 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Thank you very much. 241 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,540 And her net last name is I apologize if I'd butcher this. 242 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,780 We're a listsick, it's W-A-L-L-I-S-C-H. 243 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:23,540 Oh, I'll wash anybody else online. Again, I messaged a couple of times, please send me a chat directly and I could relate questions as we go. 244 00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:31,060 No other chat, messages. 245 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Hey, Ralph, sit, do you more comments from the public? 246 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:43,580 Oh, I'll leave it. I don't. I was not able to type anything in the chat, so you may not be getting things. 247 00:20:44,540 --> 00:20:46,620 Somehow Abby is able to do it. 248 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:53,620 Okay, I'm not a tech genius myself, so the beef user error. 249 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:57,920 Oh, it's getting tough. 250 00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:02,120 There are users who are not able to chat. Not just me. 251 00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:09,420 Folks online, I am going to both meeting and come back in one more time. 252 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,500 That's all I can do. 253 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:17,500 Okay, so bear with me, reconnect with the meeting, and a couple of minutes here. 254 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,280 So. 255 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,340 Greg, would you mind if I said something? 256 00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:22,240 No, absolutely. 257 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:22,860 Great. 258 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,420 I'm so relieved of the dance community, my entire life. 259 00:21:26,620 --> 00:21:29,420 I've looked 24 and a half years up on easy straight. 260 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:36,580 I'll say that I'm probably not, I'm not along with thinking along the same lines as most of you. 261 00:21:36,580 --> 00:21:43,360 Um, I, what I see is, um, I see a, uh, business that's thriving in our town, whether 262 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:49,440 our new businesses, I see, um, people that are working good job and I think that that 263 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,840 is that to me is very valuable as a member of this community. 264 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:56,940 Um, I will say my piece is not disrupted by what is happening. 265 00:21:57,260 --> 00:21:58,380 I live on easy street. 266 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,280 I, I, I, I, I, like I said, then here in my whole life, it doesn't disrupt me. 267 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,520 I'm not concerned about the expansion at all. 268 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:12,140 I don't know, I have to admit that I don't care to read the entire thing. 269 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:18,080 I just, from a perspective of living here, I have no concerns with it. 270 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:21,940 And I know that everyone in this term may think differently, but I don't have any concerns. 271 00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:24,200 I just want to say that because no one else is saying that. 272 00:22:24,820 --> 00:22:25,420 Thank you. 273 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:29,980 Okay, so we've had two people join back online, have one of them to see. 274 00:22:30,820 --> 00:22:32,220 I'm crossing my fingers. 275 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,360 Abby, do you want to try speaking once more for us? 276 00:22:43,090 --> 00:22:45,010 We can hear you. 277 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:47,950 All right. 278 00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:51,090 If you'd like to add anything to what I said, feel free. 279 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:56,000 I don't think I have anything to add. 280 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,840 Other than what was already said, thank you. 281 00:23:03,890 --> 00:23:04,730 Not such an idea. 282 00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:05,690 No, do we have others? 283 00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:09,010 We only have two people who are about it back in 284 00:23:09,010 --> 00:23:09,970 Howdy and Christopher. 285 00:23:09,970 --> 00:23:14,610 I mean, they just have to join again. 286 00:23:15,610 --> 00:23:18,210 I was hoping you would just put me in the bus. 287 00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:21,970 You message and you were leaving or the message to see if they'll try. 288 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:22,830 Is that it, verbally? 289 00:23:23,410 --> 00:23:27,710 I, I'll be, do you hurt each other say everybody join in again? 290 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:29,130 You get disconnected? 291 00:23:30,850 --> 00:23:31,730 But yes, I did. 292 00:23:32,350 --> 00:23:33,410 Okay, well, it's all we can do. 293 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:36,250 Because I'd like to speak under public comment. 294 00:23:39,390 --> 00:23:49,390 Okay, she did one question on another topic, so yeah, I wanted to know what the Smoky House had to do if he wanted to talk. 295 00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:53,330 That's what they did. It submitted a useful impact question there. 296 00:23:53,430 --> 00:24:01,350 He got it for an extra 50 a minute for a single family house and I think they're going to speak. 297 00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:02,910 You know, it's what's on there for though. 298 00:24:02,910 --> 00:24:07,670 is it? Right, we just can't talk about it when he presents. So I just want to find out what it was 299 00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:08,130 about. 300 00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:15,910 Yeah, I can let you find out. Hi, I'm Walker. I'm one of the programs that I can get some 301 00:24:15,910 --> 00:24:21,310 guests going to see well. Yeah, we're, this is a part of one of our ongoing research projects 302 00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:28,670 exploring sustainable uses of local wood and modern building. So we're putting up a 350 square 303 00:24:28,670 --> 00:24:35,430 sort of pilot housing structure that the problem has, sort of our interns, some of the 304 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:41,510 odors farm workers at the time, it's not right around our central campus. So we've gone through 305 00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:46,430 we have an exact existing after 50 amendment because of a lot of the ground up that's back in, 306 00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:53,670 I think it was the 80s because we had that existing permit any time we do anything development-wise, 307 00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:57,010 Yeah, that's right by the man. 308 00:24:57,290 --> 00:24:57,670 Thank you. 309 00:25:07,060 --> 00:25:14,680 Well, one thing I want to bring up to everybody is, which is concerning to me, is two months ago, 310 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,920 and maybe three months ago now, the Rutland Regional Plan had changed. 311 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:25,400 And they took over a thousand acres of forest and egg and turned it to commercial 312 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:32,360 the face of the mountain on Dorset Mountain, the face to the town, which is everyone can see. 313 00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:40,580 And my problem is that I didn't see a letter a person. I mean, I'm the one that went to the meetings in argued about it. 314 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:49,600 Now, we're talking a 12 acre parcel, which is 0.0047 percent of the town, 315 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,800 which has already 75% for us than Ag. 316 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,820 But we had a thousand acre commercial that is owned by a foreign company that doesn't even know where 317 00:26:00,820 --> 00:26:04,400 Dambias and I didn't see any outrage here. 318 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:09,780 So I guess under public comment, I wanted to find out why we're all worried about 12 acres 319 00:26:09,780 --> 00:26:13,820 that an existing operation that none of you will ever see. 320 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,180 And we had a thousand acres that I sat there and argued about 321 00:26:18,180 --> 00:26:29,600 And that's well aware of that and so I just want to bring up many other things have gone on here that maybe went under the radar of everybody. 322 00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:31,560 Thanks. 323 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,540 Thank you. 324 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,300 All right. 325 00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:36,840 So really cool. 326 00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:37,700 How do you get? 327 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:38,360 All right. 328 00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:40,400 This is about the previous topic. 329 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,800 This is a one of the day on the road situation with my house and my foundation. 330 00:26:46,260 --> 00:26:52,200 We haven't seen any erosion, Joe and I have not had a chance to meet up yet. 331 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,240 I'm last night's rain, I'm out. 332 00:26:54,260 --> 00:26:55,340 Oh, you did get erosion? 333 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,780 Last night, I didn't get a chance to come up. 334 00:26:57,820 --> 00:27:00,520 One, three, I was over two, thirty, trying to reroute the route. 335 00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:01,180 One, I thought. 336 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:04,660 See, because the two previous rains, it didn't do anything. 337 00:27:04,940 --> 00:27:06,080 No, it was just missing. 338 00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:08,000 Last night wasn't a whole other volcano. 339 00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:08,880 Okay. 340 00:27:10,140 --> 00:27:11,300 Did you clean it up? 341 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,200 Or can't the soil? 342 00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:13,760 Is it still staying in the way? 343 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,620 deep out of my barrier to try to move the water. I know they're about myself trying to move the water, 344 00:27:19,260 --> 00:27:26,800 so it's not flooding my basement. You know I mean it's it's it is something that we do want to solve. 345 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,860 The only problem is it's been an issue and you were in the last meeting with Ed and Joe and 346 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:40,360 it's just there's no just magic bolt on this and we've discussed that Joe called me the other day on it 347 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:45,500 we were discussing it, but I, but in the meantime, his house isn't flooding minus. 348 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,220 Yeah, no one, and the thing is, it didn't just happen. 349 00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:53,360 This has gone out for years, and we want to fix it right now. 350 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,200 Now, the nation flooding has happened in the past couple months. 351 00:27:57,340 --> 00:28:01,400 It has gotten worse since the last time the men were up and dumped it too low. 352 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:05,820 But I can imagine last meeting, and greater than it, even further, to tilt my way. 353 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:09,160 So it has gotten worse since the last road work that they did. 354 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,460 We really want to solve this issue, but it's not as easy, and you were in and on the meeting. 355 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:24,120 I mean, if there was just one quick fix, we would do it. 356 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:30,180 I mean, Steve wouldn't, and Larry would gladly, you know, do it, but we haven't come up with that. 357 00:28:30,180 --> 00:28:36,160 And just a terror, lander to waste money, putting in drain it or something that isn't going 358 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:42,740 to work, is, you know, so we will get to the bottom of it. 359 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,600 But it needs to happen sooner rather than later, because from last meeting, until now, all 360 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,180 top of stop, that won't be in my home. 361 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,340 Well, I think we had the last meeting. 362 00:28:52,540 --> 00:28:55,460 It was, we did agree, you have to meet together with Joel, right? 363 00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:55,780 Yeah. 364 00:28:55,780 --> 00:29:01,220 quick if we, what I'd like to see is just that if we can make that that meeting with Joe 365 00:29:01,220 --> 00:29:04,580 Hap and the sea with to something to do, remember we discussed trying to get something done 366 00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:09,600 then I'm sure, yet no I just make sure we're going to hurt the meeting to try to get something done 367 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,600 that we can do this doable in the short term to try to help a little bit while we're trying to work 368 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:20,840 through what everybody agreed that meeting was not a quick and not an expensive, and I understand. 369 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:27,320 So what I'd like to see is we did say we would meet I just make sure we can kind of fall through with that 370 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,940 We go to see if there's any quick pieces like we talk 371 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,960 But when the shoulders I guess try to get some water off prior to getting there just some things 372 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,960 You guys have to discuss as that meeting we can fall through with that in the short term. I've had a pretty 373 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Is 374 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:50,180 that reasonable yeah, yeah, I'm just going to meet with him. He hasn't had a chance 375 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:52,980 I'm just waiting to hear what 376 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,340 We're doing it. 377 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,320 Oh, you're not like we're doing it. 378 00:29:57,340 --> 00:29:58,060 Put a lot of that. 379 00:29:58,300 --> 00:29:58,960 Test solution. 380 00:29:59,680 --> 00:29:59,980 It's just... 381 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,600 It's been three weeks and, you know, this time of the year, it stopped between Joe and my scheduled to make it happen. 382 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:19,780 I'm fully understanding you know, Tony, we've talked before. I'm very reasonable. My concern now is it's going to get pushed to the fall in the winter and now from spring. I'm going to have all this spring or not. It is going to get twice as bad. 383 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:28,320 We will get, I mean, and I'm not guaranteeing the solution. I'm saying we will come up with some sort of solution. 384 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,100 I need to happen before we enter something right before we enter. 385 00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:36,320 No, and I would hope we can implement it when we're up there doing the fall grading. 386 00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:48,810 Yeah. 387 00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:48,830 Yeah. 388 00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:49,610 That makes it common. 389 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:50,430 Yeah. 390 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:52,210 Some of what I heard. 391 00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:55,610 Public comment part. 392 00:30:56,390 --> 00:30:57,030 Two things. 393 00:30:57,470 --> 00:30:58,310 Number one. 394 00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:05,230 I heard several people refer to zoning and a zoning change. 395 00:31:06,170 --> 00:31:07,390 And spot zoning. 396 00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:18,690 We don't have any of that in dampy. There is no zoning. What we're talking about is changing lines on a land use map. 397 00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:25,130 Most of you recall I was chairman of the Planning Commission for many years. 398 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:35,070 And in that time we made several changes on the land use map and the most major one was up here at the north end of town. 399 00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:43,990 And we made both sides of Route 7 commercial, just so that buttercream, fun center could go in. 400 00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:51,130 So it does happen. This is not some unique change all beside them. 401 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:52,410 So I have to say. 402 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,040 Well, I don't know if anybody else was public comment before we move on. 403 00:32:03,340 --> 00:32:04,660 Now that you're familiar. 404 00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:05,500 Do 405 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,480 you know that few people texting that they have been sending you break since they have 406 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,440 pretty hidden on the chat? 407 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:16,220 Yes. 408 00:32:16,820 --> 00:32:19,140 So I'm related to any of this, oh my god. 409 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,880 In our mainstream, the last few times the town is in line. 410 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,120 It means you didn't get line. 411 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:23,420 I don't know. 412 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:23,980 I don't know why. 413 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:24,740 There's line. 414 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,960 Scott's fill the other day. 415 00:32:27,340 --> 00:32:28,860 How come your mainstream hasn't been aligned? 416 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,480 The town doesn't paint the roads. 417 00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:32,460 That's state. 418 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:36,540 And it's only roads that connect from town to town. 419 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:43,100 So they've paid from Route 7 to Paul it and 420 00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:45,740 The North Dane Street has no relation to any of that 421 00:32:47,740 --> 00:32:48,260 Nope 422 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:55,460 Those doesn't the time I think that North Dane Street should be maybe invoked into that because the amount of traffic that's on it 423 00:32:55,460 --> 00:32:57,320 And it's 40 miles an hour 424 00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:05,640 The town could hire a different company to do it, but the lines that are on the road right now is 425 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,980 Was done by the state 426 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:18,180 And there was a grant available a couple years ago and I got them to line North and South 427 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:24,880 Main Street and also put white stripes on the side to hopefully see these structures out 428 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,940 here since it's been a long time. 429 00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:27,160 Yeah. 430 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,680 Oh, I don't know. 431 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,100 I know. 432 00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:29,640 I'm right. 433 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:31,260 It'd be good. 434 00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:32,400 Yeah, it would be nice. 435 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:40,360 And, you know, at budget time, you said the thing is that we need to, from the thought book, would you put it in the budget? 436 00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:49,270 Yeah. 437 00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:50,490 All right. 438 00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:54,510 I have another topic in you to address the dog situation on Guslero. 439 00:33:55,450 --> 00:34:01,050 I need to know what's happening with the neighbor's dog that was bitten by a rabbit fox. 440 00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:02,150 It is still running. 441 00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:07,270 But I can type what that was. 442 00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:10,010 You know, obviously the dog after the funeral, the episode started. 443 00:34:12,910 --> 00:34:18,790 So the dog would go to the vet, the dogs, you know, for the booster as required by the 444 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:25,890 Vermont Health Department, who was took that over once the fox was tested and so on. 445 00:34:26,850 --> 00:34:29,970 I reached out to the, you know, the vet couldn't confirm that. 446 00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:36,580 I spoke to the sheriff to make a couple of things and then came through the dogs weren't licensed 447 00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:44,220 And I actually spoke to the resident and they gave us the Saturday and they gave it for the Wednesday 448 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,240 at three o'clock to register the dogs 449 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:54,140 And she did register her dogs and she did prove that she had the vaccinations before so that I'm just giving you some 450 00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:54,920 So the dog 451 00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:58,500 We're always considered fully vaccinated by the state of Vermont 452 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:05,000 And it was confirmed by which he licensed the dogs. I did also get a sheriff and asked the sheriff 453 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:13,060 to go by there when they were on their patrol to ensure that dogs were falling through with the observation 454 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:21,240 period that the state of my health department had laid out for her and had not heard back from this year. 455 00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:28,340 So I'm going to talk to the sheriff and I asked them to go by when they were in danger patrol and I will help me fall for the sheriff. 456 00:35:28,340 --> 00:35:33,580 You know, and I did reach out to another resident who was email me was what's been going on with that situation and 457 00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:38,160 You know, there was some certain 458 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,080 You know, originally you have told us you're quarantining. That was not what she was told to do is I'm serving and 459 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:51,580 Dodged running at large. Yes, and that's I still be asked to ask to share because it is another issue with our 460 00:35:51,580 --> 00:35:57,240 Dog policy of dogs running at large. So I will solve with the sheriff department they've been up there 461 00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:02,180 if not, I will remind of again, I request again that they take the time to be up there. 462 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,820 They check on it. 463 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,560 If you guys have times, people have time, things, things, you can reach out to the share. 464 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,900 Even the specifics say, you know, these dogs are running here. 465 00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:11,760 It's just time, whatever. Anything you do. 466 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,920 You can contact the share if yourself as well. 467 00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:15,920 You can also send an email to me. 468 00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:16,560 Would they just... 469 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:16,900 I don't know. 470 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,980 I don't know. 471 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,200 I don't know. 472 00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:24,460 So I'd like to know that. 473 00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:29,160 So if you can, anytime you email me, those times you call them or something, so I can 474 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,780 follow up with that because we do pay them, we pay them good money, and we should be getting 475 00:36:34,780 --> 00:36:37,880 a service for that cash that we're putting out each year. 476 00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:44,000 So if you can, if you just, if you have just email the times where you call them, and they 477 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,340 should have record, I'd like to have that so I can call them. 478 00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:50,920 Do you know the rules of the observation is that the box will be released or can he be running? 479 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,700 So, the observation, it says under the under the under the under the control. 480 00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:06,300 Now, it's not even the health department not even requiring, they don't even require a proof that the dog's vaccine is when that whole thing that was surprised to me. 481 00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:13,560 So, when they lay off the observation period, our dog ordinance, I don't have a witness, to recall, 482 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:22,460 and dogs would say they're running at large. There's a definition for running at large and it does leave a little bit of leeway, 483 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,220 but the dogs basically have to be under control whether it's leash, offense or by verbal command, 484 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,980 and not posing an issue to others. 485 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:45,000 It's not that the residents that were speaking of literally stands on the edge of her property, all into my property, which aggravates my German shepherds. 486 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:54,760 For that, I'm reaching my dog who's ten years old, never been on the leash before, and I'm not sure there will be a fencing put up on the yard to prevent this. 487 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,260 Can you email me those? I mean some of that please because that's what helps us 488 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,960 Before the dog calls he took because it's not changing and she's not here enjoyed them. We have to do some things 489 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,280 Right, but we have a dog 490 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,760 Ordnance for a reason to came out for a reason for my time. These guys speak the white came about 491 00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:21,320 Well, we'll see 492 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:31,480 I'm actually killing that resident's other pets that we fought for a week, not a week. 493 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,820 I survived not her to that, but this is a puppy who's not. 494 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:40,300 You're within your right sifted dogs on your porch to defend yourself if you feel threatened. 495 00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:44,540 I was advised not to, because I could get in trouble for it. 496 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,340 It has to actively be biting myself or my dog. 497 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,500 Now's the bite by the share. 498 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,360 This batch, yes. 499 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:08,660 So you can send me anything with some of these stuff so I can have me on the awesome reach out to the share and then 500 00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:09,520 We will 501 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,400 Look at these in there, so we have you in for a reason and then we'll address the 502 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,840 Okay, 503 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:20,060 I 504 00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:21,500 Promise 505 00:39:22,220 --> 00:39:26,720 Like I said a fence will be going on is going up as close to the road as 506 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:33,140 We can leave you put it and just want to ask the people to take a little easier on my back this 507 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:34,040 time. 508 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,660 I tried to. 509 00:39:35,660 --> 00:39:36,200 Thank you. 510 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,240 So I think the post we put up for you before we didn't knock down. 511 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,560 Yeah, but it's so miserable. 512 00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:49,400 Great. 513 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:55,080 That was just kind of just a problem in the meeting notes, like us here in the village. 514 00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:02,240 we have dogs coming running through our property as well, and we have control of our dog, but 515 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,400 she's friendly, so she wants to say hi. We don't know anything about the dogs. 516 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,900 Can I put a note in the meeting minutes just this like words requesting people to? 517 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:17,260 Yeah, I mean, that's what we have a dog ordinance in that we have a share. We have a health officer, 518 00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:21,300 so that's what we have it there for. So if we don't know the health officer that shares, 519 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:22,420 You know, that's a work. 520 00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:23,720 We're looking forward to it. 521 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:25,980 And I would suggest just send an email 522 00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:29,200 because voice calls don't get documented 523 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:32,340 and email you can come back to. 524 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,720 And in that note that they are responsible for picking up 525 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:38,920 after their dog. 526 00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:42,820 You can't let your dog use other people's lawns. 527 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,440 Can I please my boards, actually? 528 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,260 Yes. 529 00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:50,190 Yeah. 530 00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:50,810 No, I'm wondering. 531 00:40:56,540 --> 00:41:02,620 Okay, hopefully we're going to have to move on. 532 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:04,140 Anybody else? 533 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,880 One last call for it because I don't see any heinous ladies going to lie? 534 00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:10,500 Nobody's speaking. 535 00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:13,160 All right. 536 00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:15,040 Motion to adopt a minute. 537 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,020 Select board meeting of August 13th, 2006. 538 00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:19,120 Some of them. 539 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:21,260 Seconded. 540 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,320 Okay. 541 00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:22,600 Fender? 542 00:41:23,980 --> 00:41:26,060 Thanks, James. Thank you. 543 00:41:29,140 --> 00:41:31,400 All those of favor? All those opposed? 544 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:34,780 Now we're flying. 545 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:39,600 All right, information. This is quick. You know, basically, just want to make sure you 546 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,400 re-new tax bills go sent. Thank you, you know, Marvin. 547 00:41:43,180 --> 00:41:46,060 Genius, Lauren, Caitlyn, Brad. You're getting those out? 548 00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:48,740 Got to say very important. Appreciate that. 549 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,960 Quick update on the external audit. They did send the contract that they said. 550 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,340 So, I'll be signing that contract that we've voted on. 551 00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:57,740 They've brought it to send that back and we'll move the next step. 552 00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:01,440 I think Kate will need to send you that piece so we have some idea and they'll be more 553 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,200 coming on that. 554 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,080 Just a quick thing on a union contract, you go, Jason, you know, let's come up this year 555 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,380 and they want you guys to start thinking about it. 556 00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:16,960 I spoke with Ray, you know, we're looking at kind of starting in early November because I really 557 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,800 don't want to wait till mid December to do it personally. 558 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,880 It's like you guys just to make sure you guys think about items for that and the October 559 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,960 media. I'd like to make sure we have points of folks that are going to go shape and we can probably have a meeting to go over. 560 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,260 We'll be able to do an executive session not to discuss our, you will not be there Steve. 561 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:37,700 I will. 562 00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:40,220 Let's not fear. 563 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,780 So, any questions or comments on that? 564 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:46,560 Perfect. 565 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,160 And then, just from Mark, 566 00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:04,570 this is a quick note, you know, Mark and Gates, he knows 567 00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:09,630 that he's serving the town as a listener and a sister treasure, he did put out a little 568 00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:15,390 notice that he intends that not to run to real action, again, if his term as a listener 569 00:43:15,390 --> 00:43:20,070 in March of 2008, which I think that's a pretty good notice to the town, and he said, 570 00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:28,370 happily, you know, step down, if it's replacement or found sooner. So I want to kind of just mention 571 00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:35,070 this, though, if people have any interest in becoming a lifter or potentially being a system 572 00:43:35,070 --> 00:43:41,590 treasure, it's happily like to hear from any of you folks who aren't dissipating the town government, 573 00:43:41,810 --> 00:43:46,510 because we would definitely can use people who want to be involved. Or maybe it's a soldier. 574 00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:55,630 We didn't see a lot of for that mad, so we won't have that just, no, so, you know he's puttin' 575 00:43:55,770 --> 00:43:59,670 time and he's really helped out and I definitely appreciate his time and hopefully he's 576 00:43:59,670 --> 00:44:04,290 somewhat of step up to some of his roles and if you are any business, you can email me, 577 00:44:04,530 --> 00:44:08,650 you can email, put the town clerk, no anybody, right? 578 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:10,190 Okay, 579 00:44:13,310 --> 00:44:15,230 next up will be a next miss. 580 00:44:20,770 --> 00:44:21,250 proposed, 581 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:29,270 the mock house on rural development does have a cultural community visit program. 582 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:34,350 This is something that in the past I don't think I would have suggested for Dan B. 583 00:44:35,650 --> 00:44:42,750 But it seems like a good idea for now. We have a lot of things going on with this. We don't 584 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:48,090 know what's going to happen with a school. We have other issues that keep coming up. We're dealing with 585 00:44:48,090 --> 00:44:54,670 transfer station, but we have a lot of new people in town and I'm seeing positive things happening 586 00:44:54,670 --> 00:44:59,970 in Dendi in a way that I haven't really seen before with you know Yankee Vineyard and 587 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:07,180 Concerts, and I just am feeling there's a lot of good energy happening in town, and I've watched these 588 00:45:07,180 --> 00:45:14,540 community visits in town and walling for it and Brandon. And they seem to have really helped the community 589 00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:27,160 to find people to want to be involved and seem to improve the community. And so what I'm asking you today is not to do it. 590 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,200 They have a process, I spoke with a person who's in charge, her name is Alyssa Johnson. 591 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,560 I sent you that information, Greg. 592 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,020 And she's on the select board in Waterberry. 593 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,400 So she has a knowledge of select board. 594 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,080 She said she would come down and talk to you, but she also explained the process to me. 595 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:52,320 That if she is invited, she will come down and she will present to you what's involved. 596 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,460 And then it's the request has to come from the select board. 597 00:45:55,460 --> 00:46:00,760 And then it's not a guarantee you've got a good community vision because they have a lot of requests. 598 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,540 And the timing of it sounds like if you put the ball in motion tonight, 599 00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:10,560 we might have an answer by the time we know what's happening with the school, for instance. 600 00:46:13,860 --> 00:46:20,440 And they then have a program lined out for a pre-visit with a planning committee, 601 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:46,400 We're planning community members for community members representing diverse interests of the community and our you know step up and then there's community visit day and it's it is a way of getting people more active and involved I think we've we've all seen frustrations with people not you know stepping up to dissipate and and this as far as I can tell is a very positive thing and 602 00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:57,540 Now, I have to do is, at this point, if you're willing, ask a listener to come down and talk to you, and then see if you think it would be a good fit, and maybe it would be a good for Dambis. 603 00:46:58,580 --> 00:47:02,740 Now, the community visit program is at a state agency in that. 604 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:14,900 Vermont Council on the World Development is an independent and neutral nonprofit organization whose mission is to help Vermont citizens build prosperous and resilient communities through democratic engagement, 605 00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:21,660 marshalling resources and collective action. It has a board. It's board includes people from the federal 606 00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:28,360 delegation, from state agencies, from various interest groups. I mean I've watched this organization 607 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,140 for a while and for a while I didn't really like what they were doing but I'm really liking what they're 608 00:47:33,140 --> 00:47:39,260 doing now and especially when you see the results where who knows what would come out of it for 609 00:47:39,260 --> 00:47:46,520 But I do think that with the school closing, that's kind of the first step towards something's 610 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:52,320 changing here, and we need to come together and, and it also would help inform updating 611 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:58,000 the time plan because it would give us a basis for more community outreach. 612 00:47:58,780 --> 00:48:06,640 And it's all about a positive input in terms of what people want to see happen in town. 613 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:13,380 And if nobody shows up, that tells us something too, but I think that was a good time for it 614 00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:13,860 for Dandy. 615 00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:20,480 You mentioned in your email to the board that they had worked with the town of Wallingford. 616 00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:27,440 They did a community visit in Wallingford, they did one in Brandon, I asked a lot of questions 617 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,080 like have you done anything in a town of the size? 618 00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:36,940 What about the jigs, how spread out we are with the village here and the west side? 619 00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:44,520 She was able to say yes to every single parameter that I gave her to describe what we have 620 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,200 in this community and whether or not it would fit what they did. 621 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,080 Yeah, I started looking at, you know, I looked and I saw some of the towns, I didn't see 622 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,720 long for you. 623 00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:56,620 I saw, like, one of the areas that I saw brand and I saw, you know, and I didn't get into 624 00:48:56,620 --> 00:48:58,100 it too much, but I didn't tell her that. 625 00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,400 I think, well, I think we're fairly recent, you know. 626 00:49:01,580 --> 00:49:06,820 But it's kind of interesting, you see things happening in the towns after they visited, and, so, I don't know. 627 00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:07,760 I thought it worked. 628 00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:15,280 Rollin' the dice and seeing if you would be interested in exploring it, and, um, I think I'd like to look into it some more and talk to some of the town through. 629 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:22,040 I just, my only thing was that the non-profits, and I'm not going to be honest with you, but two of the events they get involved in is like, 630 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,020 there's a lot of meetings, a lot of different things, and then you come out of the reports that says you should, 631 00:49:26,020 --> 00:49:26,660 you could. 632 00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:33,540 That's not what this is about and facilitating what we want and we're not a harmonious 633 00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:33,960 community. 634 00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:34,740 That's okay. 635 00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:40,580 It's good to hear all voices and that's what our democracy is about so yeah I think 636 00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:45,860 would be good to talk to some of the people I think Wallingford is fairly recent I didn't 637 00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:51,760 see a lot of mention on their website the brand and I think did it a while ago and I talked 638 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,760 people who've been through it and see if they think it's valuable, do you know what they did in 639 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,320 long for it. What their program is, the community visit community meeting day, community 640 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,900 resource day, and then they implement the priorities that come out of the community. Specifically, 641 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:15,040 I couldn't tell you, I'm involved in panel one of the outcomes was one of our recreational trips. 642 00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:25,630 There are tangibles that come out of it based on what happens and I don't know what's 643 00:50:25,630 --> 00:50:28,050 going to happen with the school but I think we're going to know if I'm going to end 644 00:50:28,050 --> 00:50:36,290 to the year and so after that we don't have that as an option for things or if we do, 645 00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:44,050 then informing a lot of that could come out through this plus get a more input on the time plan 646 00:50:44,050 --> 00:50:53,890 we usually get. I'm trying to be constructive and positive here and helping us figure out how 647 00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:59,410 to make this a good place. I like to talk to some of the towns around have done it and see what 648 00:50:59,410 --> 00:51:06,450 they feel they got from it. They felt that it was worth it for what they wanted to do and stuff. 649 00:51:07,470 --> 00:51:13,430 Like I said, I've been skeptical of it, but it feels like it's a good thing for us right now. 650 00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:15,170 or in a few months. 651 00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:18,600 Yeah, thank you. 652 00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:30,930 Next up is Michael Ad. 653 00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:39,260 You're representing the business report construction. 654 00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:45,800 I have to do a replacement for our line on six or nine in the room. 655 00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:47,660 Have you already been far? 656 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,380 What was the answer to in my call? 657 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,640 Six or nine? 658 00:51:56,860 --> 00:51:59,680 Here's kind of a diagram of what's got to go on. 659 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:07,960 I got across the road, I got a big in the barn, and then I'm going to cross the road here. 660 00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:16,240 We're looking at like 70 feet from here to here, but I went in, the old line diagnosed across the road, 661 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,300 and I'd rather go straight across and then parallel the road and get to the house. 662 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,660 I'm thinking I'm going to have the road shutting down the through traffic for one day. 663 00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:29,960 and I'm hoping in the right around like the 23rd, 24th. 664 00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:53,340 And it looks like it's toners and it's wearing a toners. So, they, you would close it from one direction at their house. I closed it both side of the toners house, but it would only be shut down from the door side, so that you could still gain access in the north side, help them's got to go. 665 00:52:53,340 --> 00:53:01,140 Okay, so the signage you would be able to use. You could put it down by I'm going to call it how 666 00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:08,580 it helps us up in a couple of signs up in different places because it's coming down. I don't think anyone really cares 667 00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:17,660 out of like staples roads going up though. I think and you'd probably want to give up typically what we've been 668 00:53:17,660 --> 00:53:25,460 when we do culverts is we put a sign out the week before this is road closed with the date. 669 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:33,740 So there's a $20 question. It depends on the weather and I've got to hand it inside this 670 00:53:33,740 --> 00:53:39,320 barn first. I got 30 feet of a big end inside this barn before I can get to the road and that's all 671 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:45,520 got to be done first. So that could wager on a day or two depending on how this project goes from. 672 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,380 So there's a frost-free going 30 feet inside the barn. 673 00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:56,440 Typically what we do in Mike is we put the sign now and we'll say September 1st through 674 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,840 the 7th. 675 00:53:58,140 --> 00:54:02,300 So if there's a blanket of one we're going to do up. 676 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,580 You've got to hand dig that, it's going to take you three days to hand dig. 677 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:07,740 Yeah, I've got to ask the better everything that I can do. 678 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,120 So you've got an idea how long it's going to take you to hand dig that. 679 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,940 So just warn at a couple days prior, correct. 680 00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:18,720 And then you're going to have to put a sign 681 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:22,360 at each end of their own, because if you do it, 682 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,960 just break it at their house, then you're 683 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,040 going to have people pissed off. 684 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:25,800 Exactly. 685 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,160 So I was thinking maybe something down on the black top 686 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,200 by the haunted house. 687 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,160 And like Josh, Scott's Bill, down at the corner there, 688 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,640 this says no through traffic. 689 00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:41,250 No through traffic, or we could let you use 690 00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:43,050 a couple of road close signs to put out. 691 00:54:43,050 --> 00:54:44,990 That's what we're supposed to do now. 692 00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:47,450 You want to follow the road because people will get the wrong impression. 693 00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:49,110 They're going to ignore you, too. 694 00:54:50,450 --> 00:54:52,330 I can tell you that from experience. 695 00:54:52,570 --> 00:54:56,750 They're going to drive three miles past your sign to say, 696 00:54:57,130 --> 00:54:59,130 Oh, I got to that house right there. 697 00:54:59,290 --> 00:55:00,230 And you're going to say, yep. 698 00:55:00,850 --> 00:55:01,550 And you've got to go around. 699 00:55:02,090 --> 00:55:07,210 So the closure is going to be just for the working hours. 700 00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:07,790 Starting the day. 701 00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:08,710 You'll have it open. 702 00:55:09,210 --> 00:55:11,030 Yeah, I'm not going to be an overnight thing. 703 00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:16,350 I want to go through there in one day. It's just going to be a one day shot. The road is going to be shut down the through traffic 704 00:55:16,350 --> 00:55:20,890 And there's no reason why I want some active road in front of it. I can't just bang across 705 00:55:20,890 --> 00:55:27,150 I'm going to go 60 deep in the ground. The other pike. It's in the ground. It's at six. But I have to do a repair last month 706 00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:32,670 There's an old galby line that's in there. It's been in there since the early 80s or before hand and it's all 707 00:55:32,670 --> 00:55:37,030 Corridon and that's my car bottles all over and I cut a band-aid on it 708 00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:38,430 Yes, it's short lived. 709 00:55:38,610 --> 00:55:43,690 So what days was it you were thinking of the 21st of September? 710 00:55:44,050 --> 00:55:44,530 Of September. 711 00:55:45,310 --> 00:55:51,730 Now, I guess, other than let's Steve know when it's actually, you're going to let the 712 00:55:51,730 --> 00:55:57,450 fire department know that so they're well aware of it. 713 00:55:57,470 --> 00:56:00,570 So they don't come screaming up through there and find out they've got to go around. 714 00:56:04,420 --> 00:56:18,880 You guys want to see that as you put this material back in, you just want to know anything that I want to see is to talk material gets put back on top and you're going to sleep this this kind of music. 715 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,060 I don't think sleeping that's a good idea. 716 00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:32,820 I mean, if you want to sleep, I don't like vibrations in the ground because I thank you for these problems with water lines because of the surgeon and the vibrations on water, if you want to sleep, we can. 717 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,420 I personally don't think it's a good idea. 718 00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:44,200 If you watch a garden help shake when you turn on and turn it off, if you sleep something that's not tight in the ground, it's going to start doing this. 719 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,840 And within a few short years, it's going to be rubbing on our rocks, some words, and I'm really fixing it. 720 00:56:50,660 --> 00:56:51,860 That's a lot of job security. 721 00:56:52,460 --> 00:56:53,140 I don't know. 722 00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:54,120 I don't know. 723 00:56:55,180 --> 00:57:05,080 I mean I suppose what the road is that it's not going to be the end of the world if it's 724 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,080 got to be replaced again and got to be dug up the only reason. 725 00:57:08,340 --> 00:57:13,340 The sleeve is especially on the black top is so that we're not cutting into the red one. 726 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,160 Black top. 727 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:14,980 Right. 728 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:20,000 So what I'm saying is I guess I can't think of any reason. 729 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:43,560 Yeah, I guess the only other thing is to, you're going to maintain that for a month, as far as when it needs to be filled back in, if it's there's any style of that. 730 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,780 I'm going to follow up on my own jobs for sure. 731 00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:49,800 So remember the time you guys go through there, 732 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,260 We're very into the fall should be all set and I think I'm going to bring up a ring of the list 733 00:57:54,260 --> 00:57:56,420 series so it's not going to be a four-foot film. 734 00:57:57,340 --> 00:58:02,480 Yeah, I just want to make sure when there's so many calls and there's this serious bump that it's not 735 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:09,560 Steve that's not pictures that I think we don't need pictures of the desk. 736 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,700 I think Michael put it in at six foot. 737 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,340 I do have a picture of existing depth that I repair the other day. 738 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:23,120 I didn't have a tape measure on it, but you can see the depth. 739 00:58:24,340 --> 00:58:26,920 And being a town road if you didn't go six feet. 740 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,500 But it frees as it's not our fault. 741 00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:34,140 It's kind of hard to get me the depth right there, but I did dig it down with a shovel. 742 00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:39,160 And then that's the repair I ended up doing because of the carbuncles that are all over it. 743 00:58:39,220 --> 00:58:40,460 It's just a band-aid. 744 00:58:40,460 --> 00:58:43,640 If you start screwing with that, it'll get a nice pipe and you're going to have more problems 745 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,400 than anything else. 746 00:58:44,860 --> 00:58:48,500 That's about the only fix you can come up with or something that's 35-40 years in your 747 00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:48,860 dirt. 748 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:55,420 But it's kind of hard to see, but I did date tape measure and it was 60 in your own, so I 749 00:58:55,420 --> 00:58:59,400 would go back to 60 in the ground because I'd have seen 50 something plus inches across 750 00:58:59,400 --> 00:58:59,920 the road. 751 00:59:00,260 --> 00:59:00,860 Yeah, no. 752 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,840 You will see it freeze if you don't. 753 00:59:03,260 --> 00:59:03,340 Yep. 754 00:59:03,340 --> 00:59:11,520 I'm going to be on the PSI Polly, there's two pieces, I Polly, so it's a couple of things I've done in the market. 755 00:59:14,670 --> 00:59:19,670 If you guys are good with this, as long as you don't find the fire department and you're signing it as Steve and Tom Moore. 756 00:59:19,790 --> 00:59:24,450 And I will call the panel and let them know prior to the projects that I need to get in on that day as well too. 757 00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:28,450 Because it's going to be very important about the day to defend them and how we get out of the barn. 758 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,640 Timway, I'm bored with that? 759 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,040 Yep. 760 00:59:33,380 --> 00:59:35,040 Yeah, I don't see any Brian in there. 761 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:42,620 So I've got a question for you while you're here. Staples. Staples, bro. You filled in the water turned that. 762 00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:45,520 I did. Yeah, I didn't want the water to run on that way. 763 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:53,160 And it was blind or standing in that culvert was taken out that you agreed to leave that water turned in there. 764 00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:58,150 I don't quite call that conversation. 765 01:00:02,380 --> 01:00:06,720 I'll be following you guys one on Monday and about 75 feet. I will already call the work. 766 01:00:11,690 --> 01:00:17,770 So you just go and direct it to your neighbor and go and send it back into the train you should just go on my property. 767 01:00:18,730 --> 01:00:23,750 No, to my neighbor. But if you say this is a neighbor, but it goes to the day and the journey is just go on my property. 768 01:00:25,450 --> 01:00:27,750 Which is on the feet. 769 01:00:33,330 --> 01:00:35,210 This is a constant erosion now. 770 01:00:36,790 --> 01:00:42,210 It hasn't yet, but it hasn't last night checked out this morning and it could have actually 771 01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:46,370 an order to boost rates rate across through there weren't supposed to, and it wasn't about 772 01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:48,150 that deep enough that light. 773 01:00:49,110 --> 01:00:52,170 We're just adding more speed to the water again, all right. 774 01:00:53,550 --> 01:00:58,110 But it's cool, so if there's a pool there, so a stop to speed if you go look, there's a 775 01:00:58,110 --> 01:01:03,630 puddle that I left, probably about that big to slow the water down, so there's a pond 776 01:01:03,630 --> 01:01:06,050 who would have worked this over now. 777 01:01:08,330 --> 01:01:08,550 Okay. 778 01:01:11,950 --> 01:01:13,830 And I did plant some or everybody use this. 779 01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:14,470 I see that. 780 01:01:18,590 --> 01:01:18,830 All right. 781 01:01:19,090 --> 01:01:19,350 All right. 782 01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:20,390 Thank you. 783 01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:22,470 You tell. 784 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,960 No motion or anything? 785 01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:28,340 No. 786 01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:29,520 He's asking. 787 01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:31,800 All right. 788 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:32,760 Next topic. 789 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,660 Fourth in gravel. 790 01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:35,220 Letter. 791 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,820 So you guys have seen the letter? 792 01:01:45,010 --> 01:01:45,670 Public comment. 793 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:08,940 So, the letter was requesting you to ask them to re-look at this, I mean, that's the only thing the letter is really asking for, all right. 794 01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:13,640 Since the last time this went around, 795 01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:26,250 you did some more blasting, it's more serving on effects, so they have that new information to look at. 796 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,860 I don't see a problem revisiting this myself. 797 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:42,340 Well, then I think the reason we ask to try to limit the scope of it is there's actually 798 01:02:42,340 --> 01:02:51,440 the planning commission gets two dives in on this because as dealing with just land, which 799 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,520 is the only thing you can really deal with because there's no application at hand for discussion 800 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:03,100 on. I mean, if there was something to discuss as far as a project right now, we're just asking 801 01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:14,820 for a land. If an act 250 permit or is ever submitted for a project there, the planning commission, 802 01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:22,820 then gets to review that and has party status at that point, too. So that's basically when 803 01:03:22,820 --> 01:03:29,480 there's actually the meat and potatoes of a project can be seen. Right now it's hyperbably 804 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:40,560 if anything's going on other than a request for land change on the map. I think as all of you 805 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:46,760 know that the last the first hearing it was unanimously passed with the planning commission. 806 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:55,380 And the second time there was three people that abstained last minute after participating, 807 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:04,460 which technically isn't the way a hearing you're supposed to put out that you're not going to participate in your abstain in before. 808 01:04:04,940 --> 01:04:08,240 So it was quite flawed as far as that went. 809 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:16,740 And obviously in the misfull end of it we were down to three votes on that because I couldn't vote in. 810 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:25,800 So I think at that point, we're just asking for the hearing to be held maybe and put the 811 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:31,980 guardrails on for the initial phases because right now I think when we were in the first hearing 812 01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:37,880 for the second hearing they brought in mockups. Well without us even submitting an application 813 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:43,800 I don't know how people are doing mockups of what things are going to look like and I think that's 814 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:51,980 Probably the biggest misnomer is that everybody knows what's going on in the world without any single application be insimited 815 01:04:51,980 --> 01:04:56,490 So that's why I'm asking what we're asking for 816 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:10,100 So I got a question for you Greg you're on a planning commission. I was the second time that this went through and three people of staying 817 01:05:11,260 --> 01:05:14,360 Would it be fair to say it was because they were pressured 818 01:05:15,140 --> 01:05:21,160 by other people not to vote, I know that is the case with my wife because she was basically 819 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:26,240 told because I'm on the flight board or that I'm on the road crew I work for Tom and she 820 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,180 couldn't vote. 821 01:05:27,940 --> 01:05:32,260 I'm not going to speak other people, but my own opinion of that hearing was I felt that there 822 01:05:32,260 --> 01:05:38,480 was, you know, a family I guess intimidation because it's adhering itself, you know, we were 823 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,660 huge several things that I felt weren't right but I'm not going to speak for other people. 824 01:05:42,660 --> 01:06:11,360 You know, I can only speak for myself and I spoke quite a bit at that meeting, I've done some research in my own, I've spoken to the state, I spoke to the force of an officer, I spoke to the lady who takes care of the plastic inspections, I've spoken to the air quality folks, I've done a fair amount of research at that meeting because I do take people's concerns and I did listen and I also believe, you know, my personal opinion is we have, 825 01:06:12,660 --> 01:06:16,620 the company they are, they provide a resource that we all use, we all need. 826 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:22,860 And right now it's a parcel that butts the current property and yes, there are a lot of things nearby. 827 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,360 But, you know, where is it going to be? 828 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,300 You know, where are we going to get this stuff from? 829 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,800 And he doesn't toy people, and I'm not saying it's without, you know, 830 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,000 he's not saying it's no impact. 831 01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:35,200 You don't have any kind of operation. 832 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,080 That was just nothing happened to folks. 833 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,340 But when I spoke to the state, I had a lot of questions to them. 834 01:06:40,340 --> 01:06:45,900 email, they stopped on the phone, like automation from them on the blasting, different reports, 835 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,480 the different things that have come through, the amount of investigations they did, 836 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:55,140 the amount of complaints, a lot of anonymous things that they responded to, and, you know, 837 01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:01,760 they basically told me they deal with facts and things, and they also made it clear that the floor 838 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:08,260 operation is probably the most highly scrutinized one in the state. And yet, you know, they had not 839 01:07:08,260 --> 01:07:12,300 write me zero evidence of other interactions and things and so that you know that didn't 840 01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:18,660 need something to me and I do feel that's important for the town so for me that's what I 841 01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:21,980 look at it. Deans your question. I cannot not speak to the folks Steve. I mean there was a lot 842 01:07:21,980 --> 01:07:25,920 of things going on. I did not feel that hearing was all that I don't like being personally attacked 843 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,800 and here's the things and people don't know me. I do a lot of research. I listen to it. 844 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:40,880 I lead my decision. In the court, excuse your things and threaten things, I don't really find that to be really part of where I consider being a process that we should have in this town personally. 845 01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:46,280 And I also looked up the see if he has a right to bring that letter back to us. 846 01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:51,720 And for myself, I'm going to say honestly, I'm okay asking the Planning Commission to look at this again. 847 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:57,480 They should be on the wrong. They have to fall state statute. It's you know, they are appointed by us 848 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,020 But they have statues and crosses to fall on their own 849 01:08:01,020 --> 01:08:04,100 You know, because those external people that we're going to try to direct and force 850 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:11,360 Has not my intention, you know if this board votes to do it to be able to email to them and then there's gonna be other information prize of them 851 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,220 They'll have to have a hearing and go through the process and 852 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,720 That's what I have to say on the subject 853 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:50,200 So it seems to me that all of you, the public comment in you, you had your chance, so on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on right so we did hear that right I'm listening I'm not ignoring it but what we're doing is looking at the same thing as a land use change the activity process if it even gets to that is a process where it has to be an application and that's very well where I took 50 I haven't dealt with this 854 01:08:50,220 --> 01:08:57,040 side just the utility side but all the stuff comes out everything you know the engineers 855 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,620 and scientists all the stuff comes out the town's party to it any of the 856 01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:06,380 butters can be a party to it all kinds of different that's a process right I feel 857 01:09:06,380 --> 01:09:10,280 personally that he is right to get to that and go through that 858 01:09:12,460 --> 01:09:13,840 and I believe there is some 859 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:20,880 benefit to town from the software issues you know we have miles and miles of road you know 860 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,700 This product is here, the materials in the ground there, and it's just hard to make it. 861 01:09:25,940 --> 01:09:31,360 Nobody seems to want anything to happen on a place, it does nothing to do like this. 862 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,780 It doesn't impact something, there's no doubt. 863 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:41,940 And he's unsuperious strict, pretty strict, I guess they regulations and inspections. 864 01:09:42,740 --> 01:09:44,760 And that's what I'll say. 865 01:09:48,020 --> 01:09:50,300 So is there more discussion from the board? 866 01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:59,840 I'll just reiterate what I said before that, you know, maps have been changed midtown plan several times, so that I know I'll finish this. 867 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:00,720 I'm not in the article. 868 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:01,640 I'm in the article. 869 01:10:01,940 --> 01:10:02,960 Excuse me. 870 01:10:03,340 --> 01:10:04,520 Excuse me. 871 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,680 So you had your chance to speak. 872 01:10:07,300 --> 01:10:10,200 You cannot interrupt the board meeting. 873 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:19,460 So this is not the first time something like this has happened. 874 01:10:23,010 --> 01:10:32,770 So the request is just to change the properties boundary boundaries from agricultural to commercial. 875 01:10:32,890 --> 01:10:35,330 That's all we're asking for at this point. 876 01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:40,230 And if that does happen, then it will go back further to the act of 50. 877 01:10:41,090 --> 01:10:41,850 And then they will... 878 01:10:41,850 --> 01:10:43,470 If you submit it again. 879 01:10:44,050 --> 01:10:44,850 If they submit. 880 01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:50,660 Yes. 881 01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:54,840 So I'll take a motion. 882 01:10:54,840 --> 01:11:04,720 I will make a motion to have the planning commission, we look at the change designation 883 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,140 of land. 884 01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:07,640 for a second. 885 01:11:12,230 --> 01:11:13,050 All those in favor. 886 01:11:13,870 --> 01:11:14,130 Hi. 887 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:16,750 I am in a recusing myself from the book. 888 01:11:16,990 --> 01:11:17,710 All those opposed. 889 01:11:22,780 --> 01:11:23,700 That must be carry. 890 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:24,900 For the board. 891 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,020 For the board. 892 01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:27,280 For the board. 893 01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:31,120 For the board. 894 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:31,560 For the board. 895 01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:32,240 For the board. 896 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,400 The next issue. 897 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,320 Smokey L-Factor 50. 898 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,260 Except the few folks through. 899 01:11:46,260 --> 01:11:49,160 You heard them, you heard the walker speak, 900 01:11:53,920 --> 01:12:01,420 and he said, this was an impact questionnaire for the town to fill up and return to those folks so they can continue. 901 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:13,620 So Walker is there a, this is, you've got the plans and permits already to file, this is the last time. 902 01:12:14,540 --> 01:12:17,720 And then you're going to file, so then we will actually be able to review. 903 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:24,400 Yeah, we have a similar, it's slightly different questioner, but similar forms that we 904 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,780 need, the relevant kind of commission to all sort of sign. 905 01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:35,700 Yeah, no, these are pretty generic and, yeah, just as, yeah, yeah, yeah, so maybe, you know, 906 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:40,380 fire protection, we don't have to apply that thing, we've, does it provide it, please, we contract, 907 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,920 you know, rest you, we've contracts, road maintenance, we take care, my question, you guys, 908 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:50,020 You guys see this, any reason why I shouldn't tell this out of the sign of not at all? 909 01:12:51,140 --> 01:12:57,060 No, it's a quick, I think we just want to do one of them. Most of not just you did. Probably should just do the quick one. 910 01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,100 I'll make a motion that we have signed the impact question. 911 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,140 There are still out the impact question here in the sign of that. 912 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:12,480 Because I guess to further it, go with this is, we actually will see a back to 50. 913 01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:18,040 town will get a part of status on it and at that time if there is any questions we can ask it 914 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:27,060 bowls there but this is basically the filing just to check. Cross T's a nice place. 915 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,800 Just a quick motion to me to fill out the sign and I'll take care of that. Tom Ford motion that. 916 01:13:33,140 --> 01:13:35,940 Second up by Steve Haynes. 917 01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:38,180 Any more discussion on it? 918 01:13:39,260 --> 01:13:40,080 All those in favor? 919 01:13:40,660 --> 01:13:42,360 All those opposed? 920 01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:44,620 Motion carries. 921 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,580 Thank you for your patience. 922 01:13:55,900 --> 01:13:57,040 Ha ha. 923 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,940 All right, pleasure to board. 924 01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:00,400 I'm sure for it. 925 01:14:00,700 --> 01:14:04,360 I just wanted to reiterate that taxes are due November 13th. 926 01:14:04,420 --> 01:14:07,120 And you may have seen another form in with your tax bill. 927 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,880 It's the option to direct debit. 928 01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:11,680 So it can come out of your banking account automatically. 929 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,640 Is that a skewer site? 930 01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:15,800 Yes, it's through the bank. 931 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,320 So if you fill out the form, you can attach avoided check with it. 932 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:24,760 And if you fill it out, it will auto debit for this year's taxes. 933 01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:30,360 And any future taxes until you ask that it be revoked. 934 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:38,860 And then just to reiterate, again, that the audit is in process. 935 01:14:38,860 --> 01:14:41,860 and we'll be starting to collect information for that. 936 01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:43,780 Yeah, that's all I got. 937 01:14:43,820 --> 01:14:45,660 We're time for me in the first time for you. 938 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,780 For our listening audience, what are your September hours? 939 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:59,460 They are posted, but I will be here generally about every other day from 830 to about 2 to 230. 940 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:11,160 Thank you. And it varies week to week. So one week it'll be like Tuesday, Thursday, one week. It might be Monday, Wednesday, or Monday, Friday, but they are posted on my post at the week ahead of time. 941 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,100 My whole month schedule is right up on my door there. 942 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,940 No, do you have the ability to put it online? 943 01:15:18,820 --> 01:15:21,520 I could share it to the D&B family's group if that's helpful. 944 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:33,780 If somebody's going to come up and pay their taxes, they can look on the website to see if, okay, she's there, or while she'll be there at whatever time. 945 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:39,500 Sure, and so I just want to put out there some hours are subject to change, but generally they don't. 946 01:15:39,980 --> 01:15:46,880 So, but there may be a day that I may have to leave early or be excused early, but generally yes. 947 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,780 and we'd rather than the post there. 948 01:15:48,780 --> 01:15:50,600 Yeah, I can ask you to do that. 949 01:15:55,330 --> 01:15:57,350 I know the question, you know. 950 01:15:58,370 --> 01:15:59,010 Thank you. 951 01:15:59,150 --> 01:16:00,550 Chuck, for letting me get leads along. 952 01:16:01,630 --> 01:16:03,050 Move me up to the top of the list. 953 01:16:03,390 --> 01:16:04,790 Yeah, okay, I'll definitely. 954 01:16:05,610 --> 01:16:10,490 Well, she may as she's going to be in on this HRE HSA thing in case we are. 955 01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:11,850 Yeah, I did send it to her as well. 956 01:16:11,950 --> 01:16:18,830 So the next item is reviewing this community health solutions HRE HSA proposal. 957 01:16:19,410 --> 01:16:22,470 And not just to make a decision today, I wanted to get out of the front of us because it's 958 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:23,170 typing off. 959 01:16:23,390 --> 01:16:26,970 It's going to be close for the open enrollment, none of us are happy with health equity. 960 01:16:27,810 --> 01:16:33,950 So I actually was given this guy's name by an individual who does some work for another 961 01:16:33,950 --> 01:16:34,330 business. 962 01:16:34,430 --> 01:16:36,090 So I had called the President of this company. 963 01:16:36,090 --> 01:16:37,590 It's a small company out of Massachusetts. 964 01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:45,270 He calmered it back, spoke to me, he gave me some information, he changed emails, and then 965 01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:48,550 he explained it, they're small, they're only a couple of years old. 966 01:16:49,630 --> 01:16:53,650 They're roughly, I think they're 11, 12, 15 people, and based on a hangover mass. 967 01:16:54,810 --> 01:16:57,450 They deal right now, probably in Massachusetts, Maine, and Hampshire. 968 01:16:57,730 --> 01:16:58,930 They serve as a lot of missed values. 969 01:16:59,670 --> 01:17:02,950 They explain the size of our town, the size of the people involved. 970 01:17:03,150 --> 01:17:05,750 It's probably we've had always, and good stuff about. 971 01:17:06,210 --> 01:17:09,310 They say they deal with folks that have three employees, you know, two a thousand. 972 01:17:10,090 --> 01:17:12,290 And he says one of their, and you treat this. 973 01:17:12,850 --> 01:17:16,270 And by what you have, two employees or a thousand, you would dedicate a calm manager. 974 01:17:16,270 --> 01:17:21,710 You have someone that's dedicated to us, we obviously have other people, but you don't call like you call 975 01:17:22,430 --> 01:17:28,070 Health equity, and you get a different person every time to the level, you'll be assigned someone 976 01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:39,510 They gave you some brief reports with here, they put some left costs, but they do to me, they're a small company, you read it, they really shouldn't have direct contact and be involved 977 01:17:40,150 --> 01:17:42,110 I would look at the series to consider 978 01:17:42,110 --> 01:17:44,310 You know, and when would we be changing? 979 01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:47,230 At the open room, I think it's a front and forth 980 01:17:47,230 --> 01:17:48,550 of December, I think, generally. 981 01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:52,650 And that's the time we would change the administer of our... 982 01:17:52,650 --> 01:17:56,470 I usually do a new the HR, like December, for the public. 983 01:17:56,570 --> 01:17:58,650 I think I'm not sure about how that interacts 984 01:17:58,650 --> 01:18:00,650 with like the union negotiations. 985 01:18:01,210 --> 01:18:03,910 See, I don't think the union cares about the company, 986 01:18:04,130 --> 01:18:06,270 as long as we better it. 987 01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:07,670 Let's put it this way. 988 01:18:08,250 --> 01:18:11,530 But if we're not going to an HSA where I have a debit card, 989 01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:18,450 I would rather bring my receipts in and hand them to her and have her write me a check and go through another private company. 990 01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:25,610 No. Well, they do, I mean, he's obviously just company offers HSAs and HRAs to set debit cards. They offer different services. 991 01:18:27,330 --> 01:18:33,270 So, these options are my only questions. You know, my idea is we have to, because that's the only thing timing was. 992 01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:39,890 Well, I guess the only thing that I don't want to get into it forever tonight is, 993 01:18:39,890 --> 01:18:49,350 And I could probably, and I understand that the HRA and HSA, you know, one's helped reimbursement 994 01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:55,190 account, one's health savings account, but what the reason they went from the HSA to the 995 01:18:55,190 --> 01:18:58,370 HRA, if there was any reason, then did it got. 996 01:18:58,810 --> 01:19:04,030 Because at the time, the select word didn't want an employee to be able to take the money from 997 01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:08,030 with them or to spend it on something that was not 998 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,120 health-related. 999 01:19:15,660 --> 01:19:19,440 You just have to talk to me if we just need an electronic money, if they choose them. 1000 01:19:20,780 --> 01:19:24,200 Now, you go, I said, in the midst of this way, they might have used for expenses, 1001 01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:27,300 or I thought about their insurance plans, so that will be a 1002 01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:28,540 meal for the vision of their partner. 1003 01:19:29,480 --> 01:19:29,800 Right. 1004 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,200 So, there are business, there are business to make money. 1005 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:40,700 Where's the money coming from? Are we paying them a fee? 1006 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,360 Yeah, so I think I tend to follow you both too. 1007 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:50,560 But this would really be to our benefit to do what Steve suggested. 1008 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,180 And just keep it right here. 1009 01:19:58,180 --> 01:19:59,400 Well, I agree with you. 1010 01:19:59,660 --> 01:20:01,440 And then let's keep it right in town. 1011 01:20:04,910 --> 01:20:10,350 Did we look into if there's any liabilities without having a middleman involved? 1012 01:20:10,350 --> 01:20:12,490 Yeah, it's a middle, not to be all like middle members, 1013 01:20:12,510 --> 01:20:13,410 but I think they're for a reason. 1014 01:20:13,610 --> 01:20:17,090 Everyone is because the health care system is fairly complicated. 1015 01:20:17,710 --> 01:20:21,050 And the things that aren't covered by it, 1016 01:20:21,170 --> 01:20:21,890 and then you're putting it then, 1017 01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:24,050 so who's going to be responsible for doing that stuff? 1018 01:20:24,510 --> 01:20:26,710 You know, I think to me, you know, 1019 01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:29,470 he said we don't need to say this tonight, 1020 01:20:30,030 --> 01:20:32,370 but I know it's because he's going to do all this. 1021 01:20:32,450 --> 01:20:33,690 Now she's going to take care of it, 1022 01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:35,210 right, and that's to the program without. 1023 01:20:37,630 --> 01:20:39,370 You know, we had a program that worked at one time, 1024 01:20:39,570 --> 01:20:40,030 so I'm mistaken. 1025 01:20:40,030 --> 01:20:43,190 It was a period of time you had to have a water trouble with it, 1026 01:20:44,210 --> 01:20:45,750 under some amount of time, you've got to go on your job. 1027 01:20:45,750 --> 01:20:47,070 Yeah, it was inside and out the order. 1028 01:20:47,210 --> 01:20:50,450 So I want to make a change, you know, I'm suggesting we can sort of change. 1029 01:20:50,670 --> 01:20:54,390 But keeping a third party of the ministers it, but one that we can actually deal with. 1030 01:20:54,730 --> 01:20:56,230 And if you guys, I'm just one member. 1031 01:20:56,490 --> 01:20:58,350 So if you guys want to look in the heaven, 1032 01:21:00,820 --> 01:21:04,040 so you've had a conversation with these guys, 1033 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:10,580 I mean, I don't know if they may be a Zoom presentation or something. 1034 01:21:10,580 --> 01:21:16,740 I happen to call them and see if they want a birthday to come down here or do a Zoom thing because I just this is just to get you know 1035 01:21:16,740 --> 01:21:21,580 I just think he has any something so I have something to discuss with and everything they sent look good 1036 01:21:22,940 --> 01:21:32,910 But personally I'm done shy of these companies. I don't blame me at all. I say it's the difference is one is they're there are things for 15 people, right? 1037 01:21:32,910 --> 01:21:39,750 They deal with this bad. It's not saying that there's no particular pieces, they broke off from a big one, because of the issues. 1038 01:21:40,410 --> 01:21:41,650 It's a president, what he's both doing. 1039 01:21:43,050 --> 01:21:48,510 It's a perfect, but I think it's worth seeing if he wants to come talk to us, who aren't a zoo car or not. 1040 01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:53,690 I think it's worth having the meeting with him to go over it. 1041 01:21:54,250 --> 01:22:00,030 I mean, the worst case scenario is we spend a half hour in a family learning, something maybe. 1042 01:22:00,030 --> 01:22:05,450 And if somebody else wants to look into not having a third party, because Luke lost us in the middle of it. 1043 01:22:05,610 --> 01:22:09,810 Well, I didn't know if maybe he could tell us what the benefits are of them in the meeting. 1044 01:22:10,290 --> 01:22:12,450 So they'll have to be sure he could buy and tell us what the... 1045 01:22:12,450 --> 01:22:12,610 Right. 1046 01:22:12,670 --> 01:22:12,690 Yeah. 1047 01:22:13,610 --> 01:22:13,870 Yeah. 1048 01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:19,550 When guys give you their benefits, sometimes you find out that, you know, just from what they're saying. 1049 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:22,740 No. 1050 01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:23,320 And I understand. 1051 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:29,140 I'm not saying that this is a, you know, home run, but it's something to consider, because it's far different than that. 1052 01:22:29,140 --> 01:22:29,980 So I think one- 1053 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:39,120 Something this whole board has agreed on is the company we were with, it's terrible job. So that wasn't even up for discussion to renew with them. 1054 01:22:39,260 --> 01:22:43,180 We needed a thousand, how many was it? A thousand boys to get a person and health equity? 1055 01:22:43,340 --> 01:22:45,920 To have me to talk to, you know, to have a person. 1056 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:57,700 So I think we definitely, and then I guess we got to figure out is the amount of paperwork required because it may not be as simple as give you a check here, give you a check there. 1057 01:22:57,700 --> 01:23:02,460 And I think maybe in this presentation we could. 1058 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,160 Yeah, no, I just wanted to get out front because I like to do something. 1059 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,420 I don't want to keep it the same, and I guess that if there's... 1060 01:23:08,420 --> 01:23:12,700 Well, and the thing is, too, we're going to want to have some decisions which direction we're going 1061 01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:13,880 when we go to negotiation. 1062 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,260 Okay, not like we are. 1063 01:23:17,260 --> 01:23:22,460 I'll reach out to him and see if he can, if he's willing to come down, this piece of work you want to set up both. 1064 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,620 You know, do it through Zoom, which was so good at technology here. 1065 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:37,660 Okay, well I'll reach out to Matt and see if he's willing to either come see us or 1066 01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:46,580 Sepa online meeting, all right, let's move on to the liquor license one, I don't want 1067 01:23:46,580 --> 01:23:51,940 to make this pain to either, but we've had this kind of, this has been, we've seen Sepa 1068 01:23:51,940 --> 01:23:56,060 come in this year, we did a couple of different does this micro kind of, don't we did 1069 01:23:56,060 --> 01:24:15,360 off track, I thought we would always, they used to just bring them in, and we would deal with them in our meetings, and it was basically a package to our kind of license, but now we're getting hit with these one day licenses. 1070 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:30,900 I guess, so our concern is if we do it in the monthly meetings that we may miss out on the, well, the word has to get out to people that, you know, we want to have it to consider it. 1071 01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:34,380 Were you involved locker in that last one? 1072 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:34,900 It was not. 1073 01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:35,560 I was not. 1074 01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:36,560 Okay, no. 1075 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:41,200 I didn't know what the time was there and a model probably isn't enough. 1076 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,660 But they reached out in time, luckily. 1077 01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:44,040 So they didn't have to submit. 1078 01:24:44,300 --> 01:24:45,280 But then some have it. 1079 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,380 And we've been not totally consistent. 1080 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:50,980 So, you know, if you look at the online process, 1081 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,580 you start to try up there to those folks. 1082 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,260 They're supposed to reach out to Miss Valley to see what's. 1083 01:24:55,540 --> 01:24:57,200 Because we are supposed to improve those. 1084 01:24:57,300 --> 01:24:59,920 We're certain what the certain isolated states are supposed to come for the board. 1085 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:04,760 the first second, third class, places in my right, in town, 1086 01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:06,120 our school to come for the board. 1087 01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:09,780 But there was a piece in there with these special permits and things, 1088 01:25:10,020 --> 01:25:12,100 and I guess even partially other of those towns can 1089 01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:16,240 designate someone to do it, which, you know, 1090 01:25:16,660 --> 01:25:18,540 my mind, my mind was smoky after there's 1091 01:25:18,540 --> 01:25:19,380 reaction questions. 1092 01:25:19,380 --> 01:25:22,140 It's a good question for our part of board about how many people 1093 01:25:22,140 --> 01:25:24,140 go in there, you know, all right. 1094 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,420 You know, there's some things that if we just, we're not 1095 01:25:26,420 --> 01:25:28,480 going to bring up for the public, the public doesn't know 1096 01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:33,460 about what's going on, and there's a very opportunity for the program to ask questions. 1097 01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:37,800 And I think Brad's right, if we do decide to do something, we have to probably should put it 1098 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,240 for the creation of your role policy, and we should send it to the businesses we have, the 1099 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:47,900 fund center, the campground, and then like Smokey House is a vendor, Yankee Vigiers, we have a list 1100 01:25:47,900 --> 01:25:51,860 of the people who apply for those special permits, you know, to spend this year there was 1101 01:25:51,860 --> 01:25:57,580 maybe good on our website saying that it requires 30 days so that it can be put on to the website 1102 01:25:57,580 --> 01:26:03,100 around to the right agenda and not trying to make more work for us but I guess it's being 1103 01:26:03,100 --> 01:26:08,360 consistent or we have to design it somebody and you know I don't have a problem. I think it's 1104 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:14,180 a good idea to have it out. I'm just wondering if there's so are we're not setting policy tonight. 1105 01:26:14,660 --> 01:26:19,240 We're just going to discuss. And because I don't want to set policy and then think about it later 1106 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:25,100 I don't go boy we screwed up this, this is this. What I do if you can I mean we should do now 1107 01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:30,440 We're okay with that. We can put together, maybe someone loves a volunteer, put together a sample of policy. 1108 01:26:31,780 --> 01:26:38,560 What? The one thing that kind of raw all this about was we didn't get our information in timely manner. 1109 01:26:38,660 --> 01:26:42,820 Right. We didn't have time to put on the pressure and then you're trying to keep the town. 1110 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:48,860 We don't, they said things are happening in town. You have to me, to me, to be the one that says you didn't get your liquor license. 1111 01:26:48,860 --> 01:26:54,380 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it can be a simple as please submit 30 days prior to 1112 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,520 You know, so I'm not I mean, I don't need to blow out that I just want to bring up again 1113 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,560 I said in my thing if we want to put it in a policy the most in the sloppled up 1114 01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:06,360 I mean writing and then we can 1115 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:11,540 Discuss it and vote on it. Hopefully in the next meeting and if anybody would love to volunteer to work on that be great 1116 01:27:11,540 --> 01:27:14,780 If not then I think I'll see if I can try to do it 1117 01:27:14,780 --> 01:27:15,240 volunteers 1118 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:21,740 I think the last thing I've volunteered for, I didn't do any, so I don't want to do this. 1119 01:27:24,980 --> 01:27:29,380 Oh, it's open Brad, I didn't know if there's been a serious thing. 1120 01:27:29,860 --> 01:27:35,240 Now I can give the LCT a call, and see if they have a sample, so that's Brad, you know. 1121 01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:37,780 If you don't, I'm here to help. 1122 01:27:38,500 --> 01:27:41,740 Yeah, just keep talking, it's not very simple with it. 1123 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,160 All right, 1124 01:27:46,230 --> 01:27:47,850 okay, now we can move it on next deal 1125 01:27:49,490 --> 01:27:53,930 Review and vote the pike in if you've been a theme contract. I think you guys saw that right 1126 01:27:54,690 --> 01:28:00,610 10 16 a ton. I think last year of 9.50 a ton. All right, which is just basically 1127 01:28:01,810 --> 01:28:03,370 inflationary and creativeness 1128 01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:10,810 So long as quality is there Steve that's your tell them no crap 1129 01:28:11,950 --> 01:28:15,170 I didn't tell them no crap, but I didn't get any of that. 1130 01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:18,510 Didn't get any of that, didn't get any of that, didn't get any of that, didn't get any of that. 1131 01:28:18,530 --> 01:28:22,570 No, you go up and ask, did it was good to say I won't tell them, this is what I want. 1132 01:28:23,710 --> 01:28:27,630 You know, last year it was good to say, two years ago, it wasn't so good. 1133 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,600 Do they have a pile up yet? 1134 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,540 I assume so, but I have not been up. 1135 01:28:38,340 --> 01:28:41,300 I guess I mean, I think we're good or price. 1136 01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:46,220 at the price, I just think that you should go up and look at the pile before you start 1137 01:28:46,220 --> 01:28:49,340 all and in case they just got through going through a dead sand vein. 1138 01:28:55,350 --> 01:29:00,090 I'll make the motion that we signed the contract for the sand. 1139 01:29:01,330 --> 01:29:02,650 I was like that. 1140 01:29:04,030 --> 01:29:04,750 Any more discussion? 1141 01:29:07,690 --> 01:29:08,570 All right. 1142 01:29:08,910 --> 01:29:12,750 Which we should say, if you want to put the price in the motion, that's for $10,000 and $16 1143 01:29:12,750 --> 01:29:13,770 at the time. 1144 01:29:15,980 --> 01:29:24,680 Do you have that all the next emotion out of it seconds for $10 and 16 cents a ton and all since 16 cents per ton from Pike Industries 1145 01:29:27,020 --> 01:29:30,120 All the favor I 1146 01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,300 That motion carries 1147 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:42,970 Then we'll plan on going up next week to look at yeah, all right, you know, I kept tell them when you're making better 1148 01:29:46,660 --> 01:29:48,840 I think you need to show it this week. 1149 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,680 We got our paving done. 1150 01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:52,900 Hopefully those are you. 1151 01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:54,280 That travel is Timoth Road. 1152 01:29:55,220 --> 01:29:56,120 I appreciate it. 1153 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,640 We did have enough left to get the bump out of. 1154 01:30:00,660 --> 01:30:13,180 We did the little curve just past Eddie Lewis's and by Becky's. So that was our paving for the year. We're yet on culverts. 1155 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:19,220 We've got, if I've got the excavator running, we've got a fourth order to do next week. 1156 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:25,620 Lily Hill and then we're going to switch over to the bridge on craft Hill. 1157 01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:39,560 Yeah, I guess my question because I haven't talked yet all week as his Riley got to do 1158 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:49,760 any more roadside mowing for some Riley mode last week one day and by time he got his 1159 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:55,060 kids dropped off at school or whatever he was doing in the morning I was gone so I didn't 1160 01:30:55,060 --> 01:30:58,260 get a chance to speak to him to see when he's coming back. 1161 01:30:58,260 --> 01:31:05,280 I guess I did have in Kenny maybe more familiar with the area since he drives by it every day the intersection 1162 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:12,740 Kifth Road and Scottsville Road where the bus turns around there, I guess. 1163 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,880 If we can get that mode back a little farther. 1164 01:31:21,020 --> 01:31:26,820 Yeah, if Riley doesn't come either mirror, Larry can go up there and do that, so on afternoon. 1165 01:31:26,820 --> 01:31:33,700 Yeah, just I guess it's kind of also I realize it's state right of way, but when you're pulling out of Scott's 1166 01:31:33,700 --> 01:31:45,360 Phil Road and you're at the stop sign for Route 7 to look to the north. It's very hard to see because they didn't go all the way up the bank with the 1167 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:56,800 mowing. So Scott's Phil Road when you look to the north. So you're looking basically at the lawn of the 1168 01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:10,640 The lawn, left to patch and who are removed for the state, left to patch, and it blocks your vision seeing cars coming from the north south. 1169 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,660 So, it just needs one swipe, basically, but... 1170 01:32:15,660 --> 01:32:16,480 Would it help? 1171 01:32:17,180 --> 01:32:19,840 Yeah, no, I am. 1172 01:32:24,820 --> 01:32:25,760 I'm the stripping. 1173 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,580 Why did they not mark the new black dot? 1174 01:32:28,580 --> 01:32:29,840 That's my next question. 1175 01:32:30,380 --> 01:32:34,500 Oh yeah, no, I was going to have you call their guy because I know why, 1176 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:38,740 because they did it night, and they couldn't pick up center because it's too... 1177 01:32:39,380 --> 01:32:42,360 No, it's just, they did it, yeah, okay. 1178 01:32:42,700 --> 01:32:46,940 So the paint was what when I came to work that morning, 1179 01:32:47,420 --> 01:32:50,300 because they had combs up from the four corners down. 1180 01:32:50,620 --> 01:32:52,060 Okay. Well, thanks for bringing that up. 1181 01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:57,080 I had a meeting with Patrick yesterday too, I should have. 1182 01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:02,220 You think you could call him and then he's going to put you on to the line striping going in Patrick Wilson? 1183 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:02,800 Yeah. 1184 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:03,640 Yeah, I can call Patrick. 1185 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:08,680 Patrick's going to give you the guy I can't remember his name who's in charge of it. 1186 01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:11,500 And ask him and I pretty sure they're not going to come back. 1187 01:33:11,700 --> 01:33:14,160 I mean, I can get that. 1188 01:33:15,860 --> 01:33:17,560 You know, I'll go do it if they won't. 1189 01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,340 I don't want to go do it. 1190 01:33:19,500 --> 01:33:20,800 I'll just try it for him. 1191 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,540 But, so hopefully they come do it. 1192 01:33:25,540 --> 01:33:31,120 But yeah, no, that was pretty disappointing because that's pretty hard to see with the fog with the 1193 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:36,220 Yeah, a couple more of them. So yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, that's the state at work 1194 01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:42,420 All right, that's it for us. Yeah 1195 01:33:42,420 --> 01:33:47,160 Well, yes, and the only last thing on this night was the 1196 01:33:48,020 --> 01:33:52,880 Small scale local that highly safety proven thing. It did sense for more in the last time we talked to you 1197 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,580 He's been trying to reach that 1198 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:15,900 I'll get some more information on that, that cramply guard rails on the birth row, but then we've got another much information on the 37 pages from the state on this, for the form to sign, but they actually include it some more, this is the actual. 1199 01:34:16,460 --> 01:34:17,860 How much money are we getting? 1200 01:34:17,860 --> 01:34:28,780 40 and getting 43,890 dollars. That's a hundred percent match, so, and that was for a belief, it's for the 1201 01:34:28,780 --> 01:34:35,260 cargo replacements, a hundred percent match, because a hundred percent match for that. It's not 1202 01:34:35,260 --> 01:34:42,520 hundred percent, it's hundred percent fun. Yeah, oh, so, I mean, you got to love this 40. I'm sorry, I get a hundred 1203 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:48,560 it funny, it's not funny from the town, but this is what's federal money state, it's a state, 1204 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:54,300 administered, grab a ring through this. So we just have to make sure, you know, falling through 1205 01:34:54,300 --> 01:35:02,540 with all the, through all the stupidity, right, to get that money. So that would, and then your 1206 01:35:02,540 --> 01:35:12,960 contract, is it L&D or Ramak tennis courts or whatever they are that you can, I'm working on getting 1207 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:19,040 my third quote, because according to the grant before we can award at that tree, okay, 1208 01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:26,060 just be sure they know that it is a federal job because they've spoken wages but will 1209 01:35:26,060 --> 01:35:31,900 apply which sometimes their numbers are different because of the fact that the rates are. 1210 01:35:34,330 --> 01:35:42,150 I hate to have a small company coming in, not be aware of the wages also for other prices I've 1211 01:35:42,150 --> 01:35:46,630 another one company Lafayette. My little beggar. 1212 01:35:48,190 --> 01:35:52,630 Just, you know, I'm more wary because for the federal government, if you don't cross 1213 01:35:52,630 --> 01:35:57,330 the things I hate to come back. Yeah, I mean, that's the best thing we've gotten from 1214 01:35:57,330 --> 01:36:04,510 on the long time, 100% match. So I just thought that we want to wait on this to make sure 1215 01:36:04,510 --> 01:36:08,890 that we can still back out. If you sign this, it says you have so much time to back out 1216 01:36:08,890 --> 01:36:12,510 And the question is, you have some point to sign it to say we want to keep moving forward. 1217 01:36:12,710 --> 01:36:13,050 I think. 1218 01:36:13,370 --> 01:36:15,950 I mean, why would we not anyone have any reason? 1219 01:36:16,150 --> 01:36:20,070 Just as long as we can fulfill the requirements that he's trying to get the third, 1220 01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:23,690 yeah, I mean, they're have to probably go to an out-of-state company, but we have to 1221 01:36:23,690 --> 01:36:26,590 July of 28 to complete the work it says. 1222 01:36:26,830 --> 01:36:30,730 But he said, there's a lot of things going on in that price. 1223 01:36:30,990 --> 01:36:31,230 Right. 1224 01:36:31,450 --> 01:36:36,550 I mean, when I talked with Brent, he said that they were going to honor the quote, 1225 01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:44,290 but prices have gone off. So I was in hopes we could move quicker than not if we're going to do it. 1226 01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:49,830 So it's reimbursement. They'll correct. We have to actually pay them. They're going to reimburse us. 1227 01:36:50,250 --> 01:36:56,990 Yes. That's my understanding is we pay them. One work is completed. Then we get paid. 1228 01:36:57,310 --> 01:37:01,890 Steve has some stuff. You probably read a US of stuff. You have to submit to them and all this stuff. 1229 01:37:01,890 --> 01:37:08,870 you know, but they do require three, they don't worry. We're looking at that. One of the 1230 01:37:08,870 --> 01:37:14,250 ones, Greg and I were looking at it said that we had to have three prices. We have to then 1231 01:37:14,250 --> 01:37:20,750 you were able to obtain two. I have two right now. The third one I talked with the girl a second time 1232 01:37:20,750 --> 01:37:26,970 on the phone because she they wanted to know who was removing the guardrails and they told them 1233 01:37:26,970 --> 01:37:27,390 because 1234 01:37:30,000 --> 01:38:01,390 We're not supposed to tear a guardrail down without it going right back up, so I don't want us to get into the position of me and Larry of torn guardrail down, and they don't show up that day, and they needed to know about the getting rid of the wooden post, which I figured I would, depending on who's doing it, I would put one of my roll off containers there and just have them loaded post into the containers. 1235 01:38:01,410 --> 01:38:08,290 So it's easier for them to load and we're not tied up all day trying to put it on a trailer 1236 01:38:08,290 --> 01:38:10,790 and get them off later. 1237 01:38:12,330 --> 01:38:16,190 It would just got the body, went it up on at the end of the day. 1238 01:38:16,930 --> 01:38:20,230 So that's that whole band that fox combo on both sides. 1239 01:38:20,230 --> 01:38:21,070 That's a fox combo. 1240 01:38:24,340 --> 01:38:25,700 Well, I don't see any reason. 1241 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,480 We don't keep moving forward with that. 1242 01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:31,560 Yeah, so I guess other than we'd never usually get that good of grants from anybody. 1243 01:38:32,180 --> 01:38:36,600 Now if you have to keep moving forwards I just want a motion that allows me to sign this. 1244 01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,260 I will make the motion that you sign up. 1245 01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:38,920 I will sign up. 1246 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:48,140 I will repeat that and I will create a motion and I will start with a forward forward. 1247 01:38:51,780 --> 01:38:52,600 Follow the favor. 1248 01:38:53,180 --> 01:38:55,900 I will pose that motion carries. 1249 01:38:56,980 --> 01:38:57,820 New Bethes. 1250 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,020 We are in none and I take a motion to adjourn. 1251 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:06,280 I will make the motion. 1252 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,960 I will circle that. 1253 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:09,640 Peace and thank you. 1254 01:39:09,940 --> 01:39:10,580 Follow the favor? 1255 01:39:10,580 --> 01:39:12,700 All right, all right, all right, all right. 1256 01:39:12,700 --> 01:39:13,640 You got to go right now. 1257 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,320 Meeting is a journey to eight o'clock.