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[0:00] All right, let's call the meeting the order. I hope there may have been a chance to read the minutes. Do I have any motions?
[0:11] So, they've moved to approve the minutes. Do we have a second?
[0:17] Addie? Seconds? Any additions or corrections? Discussion?
[0:25] All right.
[0:25] On your second seat. You have to have a turn to seat, guys. Good night.
[0:31] All favors say I raise your hand if thumbs up. I
[0:38] oppose extensions, extension, hold it.
[0:45] Do you think Carl abstains? Any public chest?
[0:54] Oh.
[0:55] It's
[1:03] going to take a minute. Sorry. I got thrown off with all the video stuff that I'm working.
[1:14] Not a minute in my life gone by, yes.
[1:17] You're not in it.
[1:19] You're not in it.
[1:21] Is there a way to get the public comment?
[1:25] I thought I had to get in from ED through here.
[1:29] It's going to be fine if I think about it beforehand.
[1:44] Okay. That's all for the comment.
[1:45] a public, all right? You want to introduce the presentation? Yes.
[1:49] Can I just introduce Shelley first? Oh, yeah. Sorry.
[1:55] Sorry. This is my new boss, Shelley Shaw.
[2:01] So I think folks know that carry a group of tired at the end of the last year,
[2:05] but she is joining our meeting tonight.
[2:08] So she met the folks in the room, but maybe folks on the room,
[2:11] if you can just say your name for her. That would be great.
[2:16] Hi, Sheli. Welcome, welcome. My name is Addie Ferber. I'm a resident of Manona.
[2:21] I'm a grant writer in the community and a formerly free food group now of community action coalition.
[2:28] I'm also a gardener and a musician.
[2:30] Nice to meet you.
[2:33] Julie?
[2:34] Ellie, long time.
[2:37] How you doing?
[2:38] Good to see you.
[2:39] Yeah, welcome to this position.
[2:41] Thank you.
[2:46] Sebastian, I'm Sebastian, I'm a Grover and I have a little bit of food system stuff, welcome.
[2:54] Thank you, thank you for having me.
[2:56] All right.
[2:59] Okay.
[3:03] So for the presentation, quick question, Jess.
[3:05] I also sorry, I don't recognize who's at the end of the table sitting next to Shelley.
[3:10] I've had it been on the same meeting together yet.
[3:11] I think we met virtually at the last meeting and names and faces were not connecting.
[3:22] Thank you so much.
[3:27] All right, so we're having a presentation about the Dan County Food System Action Plan in advance of the action item and the way that we're doing the presentation is that it's
[3:40] know a presented to the Madison Food Policy Council in July. And so I have a recording of that.
[3:48] And this time, I've tested out sharing the recording. So I think it's going to work.
[3:54] But if you're not hearing sound on your side of it or something, let me know.
[3:59] But I'm going to try to share that up for us.
[4:05] But we're going to just listen to the presentation part and then not.
[4:08] We'll stop it before they have their discussion. We'll have our own discussion.
[4:13] share.
[4:24] So I'm going to make that bang for us.
[4:47] Do you see? I think he just maybe the screen
[4:50] doesn't show up there.
[4:53] I mean,
[4:59] I need to consider a question.
[5:04] Your request has been approved. Thank you, Nick. Okay, you can see my screen. There
[5:15] we go. Now it's colors.
[5:19] Okay. Well, thank you everybody. We have an exciting update on the Dan County Food Systems Action Plan.
[5:30] And today, I just want to walk you through, kind of give an orientation to the food plan,
[5:37] which should all be in your e-mails from Nick earlier today, or earlier this week.
[5:44] So, what we'll be doing today, and I see that this is a little fuzzy, but hopefully you can all read this, okay?
[5:53] I want to orient you to the document.
[5:54] But I think the one thing we talked about really not having presented to this group so far
[6:01] is diving a little more into the story of our food system, which is the second part of
[6:06] our food system action plan, which talks about some of the core tensions that we uncovered
[6:15] through the first two phases of the project.
[6:18] And then we can do a brief tour of the goals and strategies, which we've already talked
[6:23] about in this space. And then I'm hoping to end on sort of next steps in a discussion of the
[6:29] councils role with the food plan moving forward. So at that point, I think we can sort of open
[6:35] it up and allow for questions and conversation. And if that is wrong, anyone can interject and let
[6:43] me know if that's breaking the rules. So for part one, looking through the plan,
[6:51] The plan is, well first of all, can I ask quickly, are you guys seeing the, like,
[6:58] every analysis video on my screen, or you can see the slides just unencumbered?
[7:05] We're just seeing the slides now.
[7:07] Okay, perfect.
[7:09] Okay.
[7:10] So the structure of the food plan itself, it starts with an introduction, which walks through,
[7:16] introduction to the project, what is the food system, and then the timeline for this project.
[7:22] Then it gets into sort of the two main parts of the planet itself, the first being the story
[7:28] of the food system, which locks through some of the themes from our community engagement process.
[7:36] It gives more of an in-depth story around the categories we described as production, consumption, and infrastructure.
[7:44] And then we talk about the tensions that have emerged out of all of those themes through this writing process.
[7:52] And then part two, which a lot of you have already seen, is planning for action, the Colson strategies that are proposed in the planet itself.
[8:01] And then you can see at the bottom, we also have a section for acknowledgments and appendix for the review process and community engagement process and a glossary of terms.
[8:13] So, how was the plan built?
[8:17] I think at this point, you all should be pretty aware of the process, but just to go over
[8:24] a more time, the project itself allows to over three phases starting with a literature review
[8:32] and sort of project development itself that started in late fall of 2023.
[8:38] Then we opened up a community engagement process.
[8:41] you can see some of the stats involved with that community engagement, we reached over 3,000 people
[8:48] across 15 municipalities and date county health presentations and gatherings and distributed surveys
[8:57] throughout the community as well, which was sort of in a lot of ways the meat of the public facing
[9:04] portion of this project. And then, once that wrapped up, we entered this data analysis and planned development phase, which we are currently ending and resulting in the tank county for system action plan.
[9:21] So what did we hear from the community that helped inform this plan? These were the five different themes that, and you can see this again in the story of the free system section of the food plan itself.
[9:35] Probably most, obviously, is a discussion around affordability, you know, over the last few decades, we've seen the press of food rise drastically and that's really hitting people at home.
[9:48] And that seems to be a major topic of discussion when we talk to the community about what it is about free systems that is pressing for them.
[9:58] Sort of building off.
[10:00] That across all different sectors of the food supply chain, disparity as a real topic of issue, that comes
[10:10] about both in that sort of affordability and access piece, but also in things like who has access
[10:16] to the land, who has access to business ownership, and even the policy that shapes our food system
[10:26] itself. Another major theme is consolidation across all different sectors of the supply chain.
[10:33] We're seeing fewer and fewer people and entities have ownership in our food system from farms
[10:41] to retailers to the infrastructure that makes up the food system. The fourth theme is emergency
[10:50] superparadys. I think we all like recognize how COVID-19 disrupted the food supply chain,
[10:59] but you know increasingly other issues like climate change and other environmental and
[11:09] geopolitical factors are affecting supply chains as well and so how are we orienting
[11:14] our supply chain to be prepared for those emergencies and last the discussion around
[11:20] excessive waste. I think widely cited number is 40% of food that is produced in the US goes
[11:28] to waste and that creates both strain on our waste system, but also reflects poorly on some
[11:38] of the earlier issues we talked about with affordability and disparity in food access.
[11:45] And those, so those themes also are reflected in the food system, in the food plan, in our story of the food system section, sort of distilled into what we're calling the three court tensions.
[12:03] So, you know, as we had people review the plan, we were seeing and need to sort of distill this information,
[12:11] not just into a presentation of facts, and observations, but to create an narrative around what is going on,
[12:20] and what is happening when all of these themes are at play with each other.
[12:26] So, and maybe to even take us back, just to acknowledge like how deeply connected our food system is
[12:32] interconnected, all of these different sectors of the supply chain are with each other.
[12:38] And so the three core tensions we identified are agricultural abundance, first rising
[12:42] food insecurity, disconnecting, very disconnected local food supply and demand, and community
[12:49] control, first consolidation.
[12:52] So that first piece is really about acknowledging that dang county is one of the highest
[12:57] producing agricultural counties in the country.
[13:01] We have rich soil for agricultural production.
[13:05] We have all of these institutions, like the Dane County Farmers Market, the Military Co-ops,
[13:12] all these markets and attention towards the food that we're producing in the county.
[13:18] At the same time, we have great disparities in who has access to that food, and that relates
[13:25] to some of the future tensions.
[13:27] The second tension that we talk about is this disconnected local food supply and demand and what we're talking about there is, you know, 95% of the food that's grown in Dane County is going to commodity markets.
[13:40] It's not feeding human beings in our, in our own backyard and on the purchasing side of things, we hear from institutional buyers and consumers this great demand for local food.
[13:53] You know, when we're out in the field, like individual consumers across different income levels are all identifying a desire to increase them out of local and nutritious food in their diet.
[14:06] When we talk to major suppliers, like, you know, you know, you can help epic school systems, things like that.
[14:14] They're, you know, is documented, um, desire to purchase locally, but the reality is, um,
[14:22] you know, the, what is being grown in our soil is not reflecting that demand, and we're unable
[14:28] to meet the total demand of our community, uh, with our local food supply.
[14:36] The third attention we talk about is community control versus consolidation and that really relates
[14:40] to that earlier theme of consolidation, where we are seeing across the supply chain, whether
[14:48] it's more and more farmland being purchased by fewer and fewer entities, retail outlets,
[14:58] food businesses themselves.
[15:01] We're seeing less and less local ownership of those different entities of our free supply chain. And what that means is, you know, the decisions that impact our relation to the food system are being decided on further and further away from our community.
[15:24] rights, so this has to do with what is being grown in our soil, what food is available
[15:32] on the shelves, in our grocery stores, what the price of that food is and who has access
[15:37] to it, all of these things are being decided by entities further and further outside of
[15:43] our community.
[15:48] So we took all the information that we cleaned from the community engagement
[15:54] literature for you to distill it into this story and then we took all of that information and
[16:00] had that informed the goals and strategies of this food system action plan and then as you all
[16:07] know we brought those goals and strategies back to the community and had these different
[16:12] iterative processes where we got feedback on what those goals and strategies are and yeah
[16:20] continue to distill that down. So what that looks like in the planet itself is seven goals.
[16:30] And we can all just take a second to read through them. The first goal being collaboration,
[16:36] and it was sort of an intentional decision to put this goal first because we really see this as the
[16:49] sectors of the supply chain across the different types of entities that are a part of our
[16:55] food system. We see collaboration as a way to achieve more efficiently if the rest of the
[17:02] goals of this food action plant. So collaboration is centered around building the social
[17:06] infrastructure to connect food system partners to accomplish the goals of our food action
[17:13] one. Gold to is centered around production and, you know, can be distilled into growing more
[17:21] food for people here in Dain County and not just community markets. Gold 3 is access,
[17:29] make healthy, affordable, culturally relevant food, accessible to our community. Gold 4 is
[17:36] infrastructure, fill the missing middle of storage, processing and distribution that makes
[17:43] local food production available to where we access it possible.
[17:52] Gold five is efficiency, reduced in different ways across the supply chain.
[17:58] Gold six is resilience prepared for the next climate economic.
[18:02] I would add to you a political or health crisis.
[18:06] And then Gold seven ensure that the benefits from a local food system flow back to the farmers, workers, and entrepreneurs who make it possible.
[18:18] I just wanted to provide like one example of what when you look at the food plan and the
[18:23] goals and strategies section, like how to use it. So each goal sort of has a header,
[18:30] and then it breaks down into different strategies. So for example, if we go for a big
[18:36] center run infrastructure, there are multiple strategies housed under that goal. Each strategy
[18:42] has a number associated in it, so 4.2 would be expand local storage capacity, and then
[18:50] we sort of leave the actions up to us to fill in collectively and sort of create from
[19:00] to make that goal and strategy as you football.
[19:04] So, you know, a great example, and I was thinking about, you know, a project like the Fuchsia
[19:09] partnership when creating the slide where as a community we for a long time identify the need for
[19:16] increased infrastructure for our local food system and we knew that we needed to increase
[19:23] you know cold, frozen, dry storage as well as processing space and so you know multiple
[19:30] organizations have come together to support the future partnership project advocated for investment
[19:38] from local policy makers, government entities,
[19:46] DAPCAP, those sort of sources.
[19:49] And now, the accumulation of those resources
[19:51] has led to a project where we're actually increasing infrastructure.
[20:00] So that is how to use the plan. And I think for next steps, what I wanted to share is what we're asking from you all as a part of this food council.
[20:13] And what it means to be in partnership with bringing this, the goals and strategies of this food action plan to fruition.
[20:24] So, things you can do to help us move forward our review, the draft, read the plan, yourself and send feedback back
[20:37] to us, share the PDF and website.
[20:42] Once it's finalized, which is in the next couple weeks here, we'll send out the full PDF and the website link to you all, pass it along to your networks.
[20:56] We also want help disseminating this plan, so if you are aware of places for us to share
[21:03] this presentation to share our findings from the food plan and, sorry, if you are aware
[21:13] of opportunities for us to share this information back with the community, that would be helpful
[21:18] and in bringing this fine to the community.
[21:23] And then continue to iterate.
[21:24] This is an iterative process.
[21:26] We want, we've left the goals and strategies open
[21:29] in such a way where we didn't want this to be
[21:35] in all encompassing document in the sense that these are
[21:39] the only goals and strategies that are
[21:45] allowable to use, right?
[21:47] So if there are ways that your organizations are making these impacts in the community, share
[21:51] that with us and help us like track these goals in the future through the work that
[21:58] you're already doing.
[22:03] How we envision the food action plan being incorporated into the food council is using the
[22:12] plan as a shared framework.
[22:14] So as we're having presentations and discussion, setting agendas, using the words and the goals in the
[22:23] food plan as the framework,
[22:28] directing the resources that come through the council towards
[22:32] achieving the goals, uplifting a lined community projects.
[22:38] I think also sort of what I was just talking about is tracking the progress and reporting
[22:43] out how this food plan is being used and how we're achieving the goals laid out and then
[22:50] also using it as a way to advocate for policy, at the city and county level, especially.
[23:00] And then also using your position here on the food council as a bridge to the community
[23:08] the government or whatever your networks are to align the goals of this food plan with the
[23:18] entities that you're involved with outside of this council.
[23:25] So I think I'll leave it there for
[23:27] any questions people have or thought
[23:35] next steps especially as it relates to how the county
[23:43] integrates it into its work.
[23:56] I guess just don't bring it up for discussion.
[23:59] Jimmy, have thoughts, questions, discussion points.
[24:11] Oh, for myself, I've had a chance a couple of times now to read through the drafts of the food action plan as they've set the goals and summarized the literature, et cetera.
[24:20] And actually I was kind of that last slide that Noah brought up of how we're going to integrate
[24:29] this plan into the work that we're doing in DCFC.
[24:32] I thought was kind of a new thing that I don't know if we thank you so much for the slides.
[24:41] And so that kind of is one of the areas of conversation, I think I'd like to eventually lean
[24:50] into. I know today, if I remember correctly, we're voting on whether to adopt or not, if I remember
[24:56] correctly. But yeah, that also that.
[25:00] Question of how is this going to guide us going forward? I think it's really important.
[25:08] Anybody else? Well, I like to chime in. I think we've, at least, by my last year or so on this council or more, we've talked a little bit about one of the strategies in production.
[25:21] I think we've talked very detailed about access to land and it has kind of through other studies and other conversations we've had with users or other producers.
[25:34] We've kind of taken that as kind of a pilot issue to undertake.
[25:40] I think we still should probably maintain that conversation and really kind of move that forward based on what the action plan looked like.
[25:48] I think it's very important strategy
[25:51] and I think it's a very, very important goal
[25:55] in this action plan.
[25:57] And I think that's something
[25:59] that should really reiterate our commitment
[26:01] to making that happen.
[26:04] To our policy committee or whatever action team
[26:07] we have that goes forward with this.
[26:11] So I think it is in line with what we need to discuss
[26:14] and kind of follow up on, and I'm kind of concerned about following up on everything, because
[26:21] there's a lot of strategies here, and there's a lot of goals here that I think this council
[26:28] and the last, and many, and the two terms that I've been on this council have tried to address,
[26:35] but it seemed to be overwhelmed with the people that we have and the change in membership.
[26:39] but I think we're on line to continue to do this work as as Dan County Food Council and I'd like
[26:49] to see this kind of continued that discussion especially in the production area and I would recommend
[26:57] to be a top to plan to I think it's a very complete and it's a good roadmap for us over the
[27:04] over the next five or six years, you know, from 10 years.
[27:09] Well, and I guess I would say just building on that comment and that point is, I look
[27:16] at this also not as much, I mean, yes, how might it impact influence this council, but how
[27:23] what it impact, the county board, how it impact day in county land water conservation,
[27:29] who has the control over, you know, over the parcels and I saw one of the things in there, you know,
[27:36] for city properties, encouraging use of more innovative use or food, you know, of some of the city land,
[27:46] but yeah, who has the control over any of these different action items? And so that was kind of where I'm thinking too,
[27:57] All right, if we play this out of how could this help making make in that case, I think there's a lot of good things in here.
[28:04] Just on that production side, media a little bit more.
[28:10] I'm right now I'm at Anderson County Park.
[28:12] I'd love for the committee here to make it out to Anderson at some point and just to see it.
[28:19] There's no really minimal storage or anything here.
[28:22] some areas have water, but it's not just the land access, it's the rest of the pieces that go
[28:30] along with effectively producing. And the plan does talk on various aspects of that,
[28:37] but yeah, I think from my review, I think there's a lot of good pieces in it.
[28:44] Thank you. Yeah, I think it's a pretty good holistic plan. I mean, I think about how I was a little concerned about the implementation piece and like how they were going to do the tracking and stuff. So it was good to actually see that spelled out a little bit in the presentation. And I'm hoping that, you know, just this body we don't get too overwhelmed.
[29:14] and that we just kind of figure out, you know, one of the two things to make
[29:21] make a priority. I know that Carl was talking a little bit about the
[29:27] public lands and land access and things, and I'm hoping we'll be kind of squeeze
[29:33] in some of that additional input and involvement on the council or with the council
[29:42] from movies of the public that don't necessarily usually show up to these kind of things.
[29:50] Just so we can have like a more robust conversation and be a part of the process of sort of connecting more people.
[30:01] I have been some of some synergy on this very important topic. Last thing I'll say is that I really like how the plan talks about like leaving full system work into more of the fabric of general planning, full for medicine and day in county, rather than leaving it as an isolated sort of stand-alone issue.
[30:28] I mean, the question, the plan at the end he talked about having more community meetings
[30:36] are at least in promoting more community meetings.
[30:39] Is this a plan that looks like it's going to be more fluid?
[30:41] Maybe we adopt this plan the way it's written right now.
[30:45] Is there going to be updates to it or if we have a community meeting say in Mezzo-Many
[30:51] and find out there's a need for something that's not really addressed in the plan or something
[30:56] that we can enhance in the plan, is that going to be something that's going to be added to
[31:02] the plan, or is it going to be a more fluid type of strategy or a plan, I guess, or action planning?
[31:11] Yeah, I think the answer to that is yes, I mean, as far as I don't have specifics on the exact process
[31:22] for that, but I think what you're saying, like, when no one was kind of talking about the first
[31:26] school being collaboration, and, you know, maybe a couple of years ago, some of these things
[31:31] were things that we envisioned happening, like that we would have been part of this process,
[31:38] but I think they're going to be, I mean, they aren't going to be more part of implementation,
[31:41] but as far as like connecting more with organizations or community members and kind of pulling
[31:46] more things in, I don't mean more things like endless strategies and actions, but just like
[31:53] really trying to connect the players and the stakeholders and the people who are involved in
[31:59] all this to make sure it's representing what they do.
[32:02] Is the objective of those meetings they're going to try to have the community engaged and plan
[32:07] and really add to their input kind of make an implementation or actually setting new goals?
[32:15] Well, I think, as a good question, I don't know if we really talked about that in that way as a team.
[32:20] I think what I'm thinking and what I wanted to respond to or just mention as people are wondering about implementation is that we are, it's not fully finished up,
[32:31] but basically we have like an implementation matrix spreadsheet with all the different goals and all the different strategies and actions,
[32:39] And then we're going to be working with community entities to kind of get more specific about which organizations and people are doing which parts of it and kind of more timeline.
[32:53] So in my mind one of the early parts of implementation is just mapping out more of the specifics and like people have mentioned there's a ton in here, it's obviously not like you can't prioritize it all because you can't like it's too much to do.
[33:07] and so part of that in planning out the implementation is figuring out the phasing of which things
[33:14] will happen first and which things are for later, but the plan kind of contains obviously like
[33:20] many, many years of work, so figuring out how to stage and face that work is what I have
[33:27] on my mind, but I'm going to note your comment about also just having a capacity to connect with community
[33:33] members and find out like additional suggestions or modifications.
[33:39] I guess in my mind, at one point we have to have a rule of that.
[33:43] Yeah.
[33:43] And that rule can be closed up here and then move over here.
[33:47] We have to have a goal and it's going to have to start somewhere.
[33:52] I think.
[33:53] So I guess to respond to that.
[33:54] It's like, I think the idea is to start with what we have right now.
[33:58] And as we're building out the implementation,
[34:00] You know, there's just constantly going to be additional ideas and things coming up. So I agree. I think I'm on the same page as you is like it's not that like
[34:08] All of a sudden when there's a new idea. It's like, okay, we're going to change this right away. We're going to change this right away. I think we'll just kind of like store those things up and then
[34:16] You know in a year, so whenever we're updating this then we'll be able to take those extra nuances and in things like that, but I agree with you where it's like we got a
[34:27] Just pick a roadmap and kind of start playing that out and then
[34:31] Revised in update as needed.
[34:33] Just could you clarify who we is?
[34:37] I was going to ask the same question.
[34:39] Who is this?
[34:41] Yeah.
[34:43] If it's like my mom, whenever she said we, I used to call my stepdad.
[34:47] We, because we said we need to be this.
[34:50] It wasn't her.
[34:51] It was my stepdad.
[34:53] So I was sorry.
[34:54] Was that the only question you're asking?
[34:56] I have more questions.
[34:57] But I guess for a rookie here.
[34:59] Yeah.
[35:00] We're seeing this for the first time. Whose plan is this? And who has a third, you'll be playing?
[35:07] Yeah. So, as far as, so there's a few different answers to that. But right now, the people who are, like, we had a team
[35:16] funded to work on this through a grant. And then that grant has ended. They're still, what was that grant?
[35:23] Oh yeah, I was from the USDA primarily, and then also additional funding from Dan County Board,
[35:29] the county itself.
[35:33] And so my, I'm still working on it. Like it's built to
[35:38] shepherding this and working with this plan is built into my plan of work in my position. That's
[35:44] the same case for Nick Hackman at Public Health, and then also Noah who gave the presentation at
[35:50] food group is, is sticking with it. And then we have, we're just strategizing on other ways to
[35:59] continue, or how we're going to roll out of the limitation. We have another grant in application
[36:05] into USDA for implementation. And so that would build out a lot of support, you know, if that
[36:14] grant were not to get funded, we have different way to proceed with it as well. But there's kind of,
[36:20] would say like we had a core project team for putting us together and we're going to continue to have a core
[36:26] project, core implementation team that's made up of a few different, you know,
[36:32] city government, county government, nonprofits and we'll be able to open that up to
[36:38] I think like some of the food systems organizations addition in addition to reap might want to
[36:50] implementation or team is, but we just know that there's some carryover from the developing
[36:55] the plan. So we're voting on it because we're voting on it because we're the planet itself.
[37:01] So the USDA grant, the deliverables to USDA did not, did not involve actually making a food plan.
[37:10] The deliverables to USDA were all around the community engagement and gathering information and
[37:17] kind of it was the kind of USDA grant it was was called a planning grant and so really that was kind of like the pre work to make a plan and then when we were needing some match funding from the county in order to be able to apply for that USDA grant the county was willing to provide the match funding.
[37:37] Um, if that if we could also create a food action plan for the county and so it's this plan is actually deliverable to the county.
[37:51] So, so this committee building on the plan is just literally giving the county a final brother.
[38:00] Yes, just for their funded right and then, but it's up to the county still water if they're going to implement
[38:08] any part of it. Yeah. Well, I mean, ideally, anybody in the food system can look at it can
[38:16] say, oh, I'm going to go for a grant for this. I think I can do some of this. You know, there's
[38:23] a couple things. So it does give that a nice document. We have a submit with the grant request,
[38:28] which quite often helps substaging requests. But it doesn't in any way really tie the county,
[38:35] either city or hotel into any actual action.
[38:41] No, but I wouldn't say, you know, the county's helping us help us get the mass for their
[38:49] implementation grant.
[38:52] So, no, nobody has to, nobody has to do anything.
[38:56] Right.
[38:56] We're working a lot of people will do something.
[38:59] We will.
[39:00] Yeah.
[39:00] And he said, you know, also, I mean, I think when the spreadsheet comes out with all the different,
[39:06] I think there'll be a lot of minor actions that can be started with and then snowball into something better.
[39:13] But no, Addy, if you still have your hand up.
[39:19] We actually addressed my question.
[39:20] It was about, you know, when we put this plan together and we approve it and deliver it to the council, is it binding?
[39:27] And it sounds like no, it is not.
[39:29] There's no more that this is us basically saying here's our recommendation for a plan to make our community food better and doesn't have any kind of weight behind it.
[39:42] It has influence on policy but not any authority over policy as I understand it.
[39:50] So it's more of a question, shall we say, an idea for their company, the city, whoever, the very...
[40:00] This food pantry is still working out and I'll see if they want to take action on any of you.
[40:04] Right. And if there's ever a day where we hope we can get budget money from the county,
[40:08] I mean, probably ask in relation to this plan.
[40:13] I said it after every day.
[40:17] And it's coming soon. And we, I mean, we're not going to ask for money to fall.
[40:24] But I'd like to talk to the staffer at the county and say,
[40:28] You know, think about stuff, you know, lay the seed now that, like, in next year or so, there's a little room, you know, what does it exactly want to see?
[40:40] You know, theoretically that's the upper room. Aaron counts.
[40:47] I met with him once and I talked to him at the Caribbean cutting.
[40:54] And so, and Joe, he got the stuff.
[41:03] How much did the company get from the state of 1930, had it 35?
[41:08] Well, what's that to your signal?
[41:10] It was 65 the first year, and then actually, when we did,
[41:14] we got in your late, we went for more money, and we'd actually got like another,
[41:21] we hadn't gotten, we hadn't received, whether we got the grant or not.
[41:25] So we had two levels of funding.
[41:28] We were going to even get more if the grant
[41:31] didn't go through.
[41:32] But then since we got the grant,
[41:33] they kind of backed to another $65 or something.
[41:36] Like $62 or something like that.
[41:38] It was the last two years or not.
[41:41] Well, it was the last year problem.
[41:43] 23 is when we started the grant, I guess.
[41:45] 23, I think, was there still a COVID money?
[41:48] It might have been for 2024.
[41:50] It's just the first, it has the counting execs office in this plan draft.
[41:58] Yeah, you know.
[41:59] We just gave her a copy of the executive summary at an event last week for the future.
[42:07] And so I just talked to her real briefly about it.
[42:13] But if we do things like if we meet out at Badger or Anderson Park,
[42:19] you know, we can start seeing what's new out there and it may make it easier for rooted to do some more fundraising.
[42:27] You understand there's some part where they have the community garden school right now.
[42:32] Yeah, working, working.
[42:37] Yeah. Yeah. I sent it to executive a guard after the food
[42:41] head event and then also at your own college. And she's also working on a economic development strategy
[42:52] and I shared it with that team thinking there's a lot of great thoughts in here for that.
[43:00] Sure is here, surely? Yeah, I guess I'm just wondering if this is a fair comment or
[43:06] statement that I guess I didn't think of this as being overwhelming because it's not like the
[43:15] council is going to be taking all of these on and a lot of these things have already been going on
[43:21] wrote, you know, the county. But what I'd like about this is it's now a formalized document
[43:30] that shows research and has the community involvement rather than a subset of people saying,
[43:36] oh, this is what we need. But although if you read it, we were right on a lot of things, right?
[43:41] And so that's completely affirming. But also it makes a lot more sense to involve the people
[43:47] that are actually impacted by this.
[43:49] And the community piece of this to me is very, you know, very valuable.
[43:54] And so I don't think of this as overwhelming, because it's a nice document resource that we've been looking for for years.
[44:07] Shelly, maybe you remember when I can't remember what the girl's name was,
[44:11] to try to do the, do you remember the,
[44:16] healthy?
[44:17] Well, is it Shelby?
[44:20] Yes, yes, Shelby, we've been looking for this
[44:23] for years and years and years, right?
[44:25] And so I feel like now we have this document
[44:28] and it's a great way to plug people in.
[44:31] So would you agree that that's a fair statement,
[44:34] just that, you know, it's things that already exist,
[44:37] but now we know how to push it forward
[44:39] because we have them categorized, if you will.
[44:44] And we have, like you said,
[44:45] we have a lot of input from community.
[44:48] Right, but you took that input and made it in, like,
[44:52] no one was saying, just still did it in a way that's,
[44:54] I mean, you don't have to read all of the pages in order to understand the goals.
[45:00] And the strategies, I don't think, because there's a lot of people already doing work in the food system, but it gives them a place to plug in that similar to maybe five other organizations, and that's where we can pull them together for that collaborative piece.
[45:15] But just go ahead, you were going to say something, I think.
[45:17] echoing what you're saying, where it's kind of like, there's already a lot of good work happening in
[45:24] food systems and so anyway, like Noah was saying with the collaboration piece, it's not just this,
[45:31] but one, I think strong thing will be to bring organizations together and find synergies and just sort of like
[45:38] be able to amplify that we're even more the work that's actually already happening. And then I do think another piece of,
[45:45] kind of a whole idea about how to get city and county governments enacted and working on this
[45:58] and anyway. So something like this is where the idea is to kind of use this as a tool,
[46:04] a lever and to kind of work with the comprehensive plan to apartments and bring together people.
[46:10] We had a really cool government staff input meetings, so you know how we did the goals and
[46:15] strategies, feedback session with the councils, Nick and I also did one of those with City of
[46:22] Madison and Dink County Government staff from a lot of different departments. We just kind
[46:27] of thought of all the different departments and people that we knew or that we could think
[46:31] of that had some connection to food systems and that was a really interdepartmental group and
[46:39] a lot of really good input and was pretty, I don't know, felt it was really inspiring to think
[46:47] that kind of conversation to keep being able to have more not just conversations, but just
[46:53] make a space where we can create like an interdepartmental addressing of this because right now
[46:59] it's just it's kind of in some pieces of it or happening in a lot of different departments, but then
[47:04] they're all existing sort of siloed.
[47:08] Yeah, so you're trying to break the silo's down.
[47:10] So then is the spreadsheet a way to collect data
[47:14] to help understand what other organizations are doing,
[47:18] so you can see similar work being done
[47:21] or I'm not exactly sure what that works.
[47:27] Well, my guess and just we know other my guess,
[47:30] but I'm a, I'm a really look at it much,
[47:33] but I think it's, you know,
[47:34] there's the goals, the strategies, and the spreadsheet,
[47:36] is the actions that can take place.
[47:39] Right, are we recording those from various entities
[47:42] that are doing the work or kind of filling out the rest
[47:46] of the column sort of thing of who's right now
[47:49] the document, someone could look at and say,
[47:52] these are great ideas, but unless you spell out who's doing,
[47:57] who's going to do what, and how this is sort of the more
[48:00] specifics, like it all it is, it's just like a lot of really, you know, a lot of ideas.
[48:06] Yeah.
[48:06] I guess maybe I should say, who's going to fill that out?
[48:10] Do the entities doing the worked?
[48:12] Because it seems sensible to me that there would be a really,
[48:16] it would be really nice of a central document where people could enter what they're doing, right?
[48:22] And so others could see that, like a living document.
[48:25] I don't know how that could be done, but you know,
[48:28] I don't know if the text is possible, but it would be kind of interesting if other people
[48:34] could see that because especially smaller organizations, we know that there's a lot of them
[48:39] who want to participate, but they don't really know how to get funding or how to plug in,
[48:46] but if they had, and they don't have a lot of time, right? So if there was some kind of document
[48:50] that they could access and say, oh, so and so is doing this, I know somebody over there, I could reach
[48:55] out to them. I mean, because we don't really have a, you know, a person to call 911 here.
[49:03] We are, you know, F-O-D. Here we are. So, you know, a kind of, that would be kind of an
[49:08] interesting, um, a way for people to engage, I think. And then last final thing would be, um,
[49:15] unless you have a comment about that, um, is there, I guess I'm always protective and some
[49:24] concerned about doing more harm than good. And I understand there's a lot of effort that
[49:30] went into these, right? But then
[49:35] what am I trying to say here? How if any way are we going to
[49:41] know that some of this worked and do more harm? Especially I guess in the food access area for specific
[49:52] groups who already have disparities barriers that
[50:00] Our pretty profound at times, especially during financial crises and so forth,
[50:08] there's not really an overseeing body, so therefore, you know, does that problem get worse? Does that make sense?
[50:18] Yeah, but kind of evaluation plan, right? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know if we were doing measurables, but I guess that's kind of what that is.
[50:29] And in the implementation grant that's been applied for lots only a small area of the whole plan, but there is, there is, you know, a thing at the end of what we're just saying, the evaluation is, is looking at the end of it if we get the grant.
[50:49] And that's like that's going to be like a food recovery and trying to keep more food out
[50:55] of waste in some of the processing of food that would go to waste.
[51:01] And you know, one thing I already, this has, you know, we had Greek fair share and rooted
[51:10] all in the same room a few times and so and they're all fighting for the same money usually
[51:16] so to get them all in the same room and working together on a grant was kind of cool.
[51:21] But that's a really good example, Bill, because, you know, in the emergency food system,
[51:26] you gotta take a lot of deli foods, bakery, really not healthy foods in order to get some of
[51:34] those other foods that you really do want. So, you know, that to me is more harmful than good
[51:41] to have the food that, you know, non-profits can't really always, they don't always have the money
[51:47] to throw that out and it is waste in a lot of cases or you get right at this time of the year,
[51:55] you know, 18 tons of corn and you can't distribute it all. So, you know, we had processing
[52:04] of some kind, but that's another day we'll talk about. But I guess I'm just saying, you know,
[52:09] I can't think of another example off the top of my head except that it's just, it causes a lot of health harms, right?
[52:18] Yeah, well I figured my next project is to figure out how to get old and stale bread into a heating mechanism for like a wood burner.
[52:28] Oh, my smell good, you know, a little toast.
[52:32] Sounds like there's a lot of old bread out there.
[52:35] I
[52:37] did have a question.
[52:40] based on what's surely just there. So as it relates to harm, right? So are there any
[52:48] safe guys that only put in place, I guess, to make sure that
[52:58] monopolies don't emerge
[52:59] from this process. For example, the example that you just gave, like having the big three
[53:06] and a room competing for those dollars, right? How I guess if it has been thought about it all,
[53:14] how is the equity piece to make sure that these already large,
[53:20] relatively better funded organizations are not receiving the lion's share of resources that
[53:28] may or may not come in as a result of being able to look at this document and say, hey,
[53:34] This is what community needs, therefore, you know, we're here in the, you know,
[53:41] because we're bus infrastructure and now we're all collaborating, you know,
[53:47] because that could potentially a cut smaller non-profits out of being in two exes funds.
[53:55] And let's stop a large producer or, you know, a government of large producers from
[54:01] pivoting from a corn for animal feed and switching over to something that pushes small
[54:13] producers out of a certain market for food for human consumption. So I guess is there
[54:18] anything that's been talked about to look at the ethical piece of making sure that
[54:24] It is still some equity for the resources that may come out of this as we try to do.
[54:33] Yes.
[54:33] Oh, my, if you're an idea.
[54:34] Yeah.
[54:35] That's the same thing.
[54:36] Thank you for all written it down.
[54:38] Yeah.
[54:39] This is similar to what we've seen in the homeless in campus and everything where we ended up
[54:46] pretty much with only two providers and there's good and bad for that.
[54:51] What you look at more in the mental health area at THFs you see.
[55:00] A lot of different providers from journey to the racist center to others, providing it. The problem with some of that is they all start the same overhead over the again, which means, yeah, you're dividing it up and you're having small providers and everything, but that also means you're losing some economy of scale that causes you to have to pay for basic stuff that if everybody was using the same basic, like simple thing, the same software system.
[55:29] We pay for it once. Okay, if we do it with five different things and they're all using different ones, we're in effect paper at five times.
[55:38] So you're in a case like this where you're talking food distribution, wouldn't it be better to have one distribution network?
[55:47] Or is it better to have five different distribution networks?
[55:50] You can see where you're losing money on part of that.
[55:52] But also, yeah, you don't want to have one provider starting to set the rules that it causes
[55:58] a problem with the system. But also, if you divide it up too small, I create a different problem.
[56:06] I think it's something like this. It's really going to be case by case based on what is the implementation
[56:11] factor. For example, if we're looking at, I like the idea of community gardens and they work,
[56:18] But they only work if they're in the neighborhood, they don't work with one giant community garden sitting at one park that half the county can't get to you know what could does that to you spending more in gas than the food was worth.
[56:34] But if you're looking at more regional distribution, having a want to key food pantry and having river and having the other ones, it makes sense to divide up a bit into those communities.
[56:45] So I think it's, I don't think it's going to be a one-fits-all policy on this.
[56:50] It's going to be based on what are you trying to implement in that part of the plan.
[56:55] Does it make more sense to be Tony White or community based? Is that it?
[57:02] Dan? Thanks, Dan?
[57:05] Yeah, I mean, these are good discussions and I think good things to keep discussion going on.
[57:11] But we have one of the areas talked briefly with the food shed that, and I think that I
[57:20] kind of get raised on some of this, is how, how do we connect? Well, what does regional
[57:26] even mean is one question to begin with? And I don't mind understanding right now that the food
[57:35] shed and adding maybe you can clarify on this, but I don't think the food shed is connected
[57:41] into the super transport cooperative that was that some food hub is running and I think
[57:47] that's a huge piece here of both to be connecting for the local aggregation, how do you connect
[57:57] into more of regional aggregation both for food going out and coming in that I think that's something
[58:05] that maybe does need to be looked at a little bit closer, and I would even say within this
[58:10] plan of how might that connect. But I had one other thing on this plan that when I was reading
[58:15] at the healthcare piece and encouraging, I don't have it right in front of me, but basically
[58:23] encouraging investments or putting resources in, and my thinking is really how do you use this
[58:31] encourage the hospitals, the health care companies that have the resources, have the money,
[58:36] health care is big business. One of my friends who's some parachute thing going overhead with
[58:43] the motor on it, it's supposed to allow to apologize. But I got a friend who works in the tribal liaison
[58:49] for one of the health care companies and he told me health care is big business. You know,
[58:54] really it's one of the biggest businesses we have. And to me, just that, that little bit of language
[59:00] with in the food plan, I would hope to be trying to encourage leveraging the money the resources
[59:08] that are there within the healthcare systems. How do you get them to put it in? We're not necessarily
[59:14] looking for the county to be putting more money in or if absolutely as a catalyst to getting more
[59:22] of those broader resources that are there. That's a small point but I think it's really important
[59:28] that there's huge resources there that aren't necessarily going to local foods now.
[59:33] But I was just one small thing that I had noticed within the language of the planet itself,
[59:38] but maybe just thinking about that training.
[59:42] When you name the community stakeholders, and you don't list anchor institutions,
[59:47] which I think is what you're just thinking about, maybe.
[59:52] Like how it's UW-Madison using this, how it's UW-Hell.
[59:55] Yeah, yeah, how are they using it and I mean, I mentioned it all
[1:00:00] So, I'm in the morning, 530 to the airport to go down to Arizona, the National Indian Health Board has been meeting that, but we were invited by tribal leaders to go down and to talk about to look at how Arizona is using Medicaid waivers to be promoting traditional practices and food as medicine.
[1:00:21] So, you know, that's kind of that example of, you know, how to capture more of those resources
[1:00:30] and dollars to put towards supporting local foods.
[1:00:35] So, again, just somewhat, somewhat just the framing was something I noticed when a review
[1:00:40] in a plan that probably language was said.
[1:00:45] Yeah, and I just I just want to circle back for the sake of clarity. I wasn't necessarily looking for an answer. I was I was more so pointing out
[1:00:58] That I just think there needs to be some sort of some sort of something
[1:01:05] That's that sort of in place to kind of watch out for there
[1:01:09] And I was thinking just broadly, but also more specifically from a food sovereignty's sort of standpoint,
[1:01:19] when you get down in the weeds of like, you know, the different culturally relevant foods and things like that,
[1:01:27] that are mentioned.
[1:01:28] I know they talked about teaching gardening skills and things like that,
[1:01:32] But just kind of from a not having such a having a big brother sort of mentality and then also just trying to make sure that smaller entities don't feel
[1:01:45] pressured into
[1:01:46] sort of
[1:01:48] Going up for their couple of
[1:01:51] Rational food to some larger
[1:01:53] entity that might not of whatever reason be
[1:01:58] Good fit or that might create some sort of like a
[1:02:03] power dynamic in the process. So, I wasn't, you know, I asked him for one size fits all
[1:02:09] on him, just this, my intent is kind of lit up a little bit, but based on what I've
[1:02:16] waited in the conversation.
[1:02:19] Yeah, I really appreciate you bringing that up. That's really
[1:02:22] important. Thank you.
[1:02:29] Anybody else?
[1:02:32] Well, now that we've done all of this discussion, do we have
[1:02:35] motion to move to a crew and send them on to the camera room.
[1:02:41] Second.
[1:02:42] So let's see.
[1:02:44] Yeah.
[1:02:44] That's where you want to work with them.
[1:02:48] All right.
[1:02:52] So I was just communicating with the county board.
[1:02:56] Yeah.
[1:02:56] So moving to approve it.
[1:02:59] And then what they were suggesting is either
[1:03:04] there could be included a recommendation for inner to review it and or I think that's maybe unnecessary.
[1:03:15] Well, inner sort of the parent, the next level up for this committee.
[1:03:19] But I think the other, the piece that's maybe more relevant is if DCFC wanted to include in the motion that accounting board resolution will be drafted.
[1:03:30] then that could set into motion a process to put together a resolution and communicate certain
[1:03:37] things to the board and then you said DFC or DCF to the action point, the draft action
[1:03:48] plan we've seen tonight and recommend a resolution be put together to where action taken
[1:03:56] but can I vote in whatever action it is?
[1:04:01] I was a little uncomfortable with that only in the sense that there doesn't seem to be
[1:04:05] a structure for who owns this plan once it's done and this would in effect turn it into
[1:04:12] a day-to-day structure but we do have to present something.
[1:04:17] And I can say we just do it and send it to Nina as part of the grant process, to complete
[1:04:25] that.
[1:04:26] But as far as saying that it becomes a day counting plan, seems to go far beyond what the
[1:04:32] grant was, and kind of takes everybody else out of bed.
[1:04:38] I'm not sure what was just in presentation to take getting bored or yeah, I don't think.
[1:04:43] I don't think.
[1:04:43] Turn it over to the Internet and let them decide what to do.
[1:04:46] I mean, I'd love to read what the original grant was and what the first was.
[1:04:50] Well apparently, the thing counties supported the grant or supported half the grant
[1:04:54] so they paid for half of it.
[1:04:57] So it's a, it's a, it's a county, a, a, a, a, a, a, a.
[1:05:01] And I would say at least we had the present.
[1:05:05] I mean, as far as, I think, what is actually required, like, the money that the county
[1:05:14] allotted for this plan to be put together has already been paid out and like that, the
[1:05:22] think out of contracting process, like the deliverable was submitted. And so there aren't
[1:05:29] any more like hard and fast requirements. I mean, like, this is satisfied.
[1:05:35] Well, then can you just gave it a money? And we have to give them a food action book. Yeah.
[1:05:41] Yeah, we have to give them a food action book. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was give it. So, like, extension,
[1:05:46] the contract, the actual county contract was administered by extension to read food group. Okay.
[1:05:52] And so that like has been the deliverable like that this plan has been delivered to extension to like satisfy that contract.
[1:06:03] So I think and I think to Dave's point like it's not that it's.
[1:06:10] I don't think the idea is like you're saying that this is taken on and like taken over or something by Dean County,
[1:06:18] but I think that there's an interest in getting this to the eyes of the Dean County Board
[1:06:25] and perhaps something like a resolution would include something like a recommendation for the
[1:06:32] directing the county board to look at it and maybe specific recommendations or
[1:06:38] you know what the ask is for the county board of how to how to use it or how to engage with
[1:06:44] type of thing. That's kind of cool. And we'll start it complicated. I would say at the very least
[1:06:51] is some presentation. Yeah, yeah. A special beginning of typically when I was on the board,
[1:06:57] there was a presentation, UW did a couple of those and sort of other departments. Just saying that
[1:07:05] to the county quarters office and asking me if we can get on to your own. You may give a presentation
[1:07:12] in order to give the presentation to the county board,
[1:07:15] and this is what it is to slide show, is like we saw.
[1:07:18] But other than that, I don't know why we have to take the action,
[1:07:21] or if we don't recommend somebody,
[1:07:24] why is there any action being needed by the county and food council?
[1:07:27] Well, I guess it's just like, when a few years ago,
[1:07:32] when we did the county pandemic food system study,
[1:07:36] that was, I guess we're just following a similar process to that,
[1:07:39] it received funding from the county in order to happen. And so in a way it was commissioned
[1:07:44] by the county to happen. And then when that was done, the entity that carried out that study
[1:07:51] presented back to DCFC took in action to approve the study and the report.
[1:07:57] and then sit in the Danke, Danke Food and Calcalsals.
[1:08:03] So, you know, this, you know, came part of the, you'd like to extension files, or the files of this committee.
[1:08:13] Or did they actually go through the county board and become part of the county board record?
[1:08:17] I don't know that that one became part of the county board record.
[1:08:21] I think it did because I, so I really did.
[1:08:24] I wasn't coming forward at that time, and I think it did.
[1:08:32] I mean, to me, I think if there's any money taxpayer money is given for any project,
[1:08:38] it should at least be presented to the county board and it could fit in the representatives of the community.
[1:08:43] And at least present it, and they could take action on whether they want to keep it throughout,
[1:08:49] or they only take action on it.
[1:08:50] It doesn't look at it.
[1:08:51] And that happens many, many times.
[1:08:53] Okay. And that should be the basis of whatever approval motion we're talking about today.
[1:08:59] Okay. That is move on to the county boards. And I so moved.
[1:09:03] Oh, you should move through the committee that's above us.
[1:09:06] I think it should be right to the county board. And they they want to refer to the committee for action.
[1:09:11] And they can do it. So presented as a presentation and sent to the county courts office.
[1:09:18] Nothing else that goes into file.
[1:09:23] And I recommend or move that we do that.
[1:09:27] And, very second, everybody understand that.
[1:09:31] So, yeah, let me get the wording to approve the motion to approve.
[1:09:36] The draft, you know, approve plan.
[1:09:42] And send it on through the county first office for further action.
[1:09:48] And then talk to you, somebody contact the county first office, see if you can give a presentation.
[1:09:52] Okay.
[1:09:53] Yeah, I've been in touch with the county board office.
[1:10:00] The presentation before you have dropped the miles. The chair. Yeah, right now they're clear. Whatever, but one of the whoever you're going to do, okay.
[1:10:08] You can on the on the agenda to give a presentation.
[1:10:12] Okay.
[1:10:16] And certainly second it.
[1:10:17] Okay.
[1:10:23] Thank you.
[1:10:24] Sorry to make that. Didn't make it clear.
[1:10:26] But it is you are right. We call.
[1:10:29] I'm sorry to think you're getting worded take action on.
[1:10:31] You know, partly, I just want to make it feel that everybody who's not coming forward, whether it's the sitting year.
[1:10:38] I mean, what I looked at people who actually drafted it, there's no coming board there.
[1:10:42] There's no comedy there.
[1:10:44] Or a day in California, just thinking of who else else there.
[1:10:47] So that's what I'd rather keep it. I'd rather keep it. I'd rather keep it.
[1:10:50] I'd rather keep it. I'd rather keep it. I'd rather keep it. I'd rather keep it.
[1:10:55] Because I think you'll get you less fired.
[1:10:59] Okay. All right. I assume there's no more discussion on favor, say aye, raise your hand.
[1:11:11] Those posts, your unanimous to me. All right. Thank you guys. But then if we know what you did.
[1:11:19] Thank you guys for working on that committee. That was a good job.
[1:11:22] who play on the pitch. Very, very good. Very good.
[1:11:27] Oh, and I, it's not.
[1:11:31] You can cut out here.
[1:11:35] Actually, and so reports.
[1:11:39] Any food shed partnership or food shed partnership project?
[1:11:43] Yeah, we had last week, August 11th.
[1:11:47] We had the ribbon cutting for the food shed partnership.
[1:11:51] an innovative forward thinking farmer from our community was there to actually cut that
[1:11:56] said ribbon. This is Bill, I kind of ribbing him slightly. But we had widespread participation
[1:12:04] from over 200 people come to the food shed on a rainy rainy day, squeeze all in together to
[1:12:11] celebrate, take tours, taste test the first product coming out of the food shed, which is called
[1:12:17] West Mara Nera, and it is a large volume tomato sauce product that we got to do some
[1:12:24] taste testing on the early recipes.
[1:12:28] There we had county executive eggards spoke as well
[1:12:34] as this, oh, I'm not going to get the titles right, but it represents a different debt cap talking
[1:12:40] about the resilient food infrastructure program that funded the project and the success that
[1:12:46] infrastructure investments that they're making across the whole state. It was a great event.
[1:12:52] It was a big kickoff and I think there was a lot of real good wind in our sales going forward.
[1:13:00] Good chance to open you. Any questions or comments for Eddie?
[1:13:08] All right. Danny, thank you from Scott's improved systems. Thanks. No.
[1:13:13] Great. Then, basically, we're going on to the, uh, there's not really,
[1:13:21] not really reports, then that's all of them. Uh, so we'll go into the,
[1:13:26] think kind of reconciled focus and future direction. Um,
[1:13:33] how do we want to start that?
[1:13:35] Well, I mean, I think, we left that on there. I don't know if we had to.
[1:13:42] We're with all that get into that, but to be continued, I don't know, maybe, but I think
[1:13:48] especially in light of, we were already kind of talking about some with the discussion
[1:13:52] around the food system action plan, but um, I want to discuss more on that tonight or put
[1:13:59] it on next month's agenda.
[1:14:01] I'm happy we moved to table at the next month of agenda.
[1:14:08] All those in favor of tailoring it to next month for age of hand,
[1:14:15] I suppose we should ask
[1:14:16] second on the motion first, but certainly is that each second in the motion? Thank you.
[1:14:24] So we remind the tape and start over. Actually, there's only actually six members of the community
[1:14:30] here, right? One, two, three, four by seven. Seven? And three here and four out there.
[1:14:37] When you have seven or less of a committee of Dean Culling, you don't require a sign.
[1:14:41] But we have nine total, but we have seven showing here.
[1:14:44] Right.
[1:14:45] You have seven.
[1:14:46] Oh, I think.
[1:14:48] Okay.
[1:14:49] Cool.
[1:14:50] But don't rewind.
[1:14:52] All right.
[1:14:55] So then next thing is in person meetings gatherings.
[1:15:03] What was that following in future focus? Or is that something we want to talk about? See if we can still, I know Dan, suggesting Anderson Park, can we try to have a meeting out there in September, October?
[1:15:16] So I think one piece that's come up like with Bill and Shirley and I have we talked about is or a key question I guess is are folks wanting to have an off site meeting or an off site gathering or some combination and we are allowed to have in person only meetings.
[1:15:41] In other words, we don't have to have a hybrid component.
[1:15:45] And I think like if we met at Anderson Farm,
[1:15:48] I don't think it would be very,
[1:15:50] I don't know, maybe it would be doable. It might be hard to have a hybrid component,
[1:15:55] but so that's just kind of the question is whether it's,
[1:15:59] that helps us with planning to figure out whether folks are wanting to do a meeting,
[1:16:02] to try to do a meeting and try to have quorum for a meeting
[1:16:06] and if that's, or if it's more of a gathering or how.
[1:16:10] Who would have moved it post a meeting out of there?
[1:16:15] Wooden?
[1:16:16] You're saying like it?
[1:16:18] I just had a gathering.
[1:16:20] Both the gathering, how there are some of them,
[1:16:22] they had any other public gathering.
[1:16:24] And maybe invite some people not necessarily within our organization,
[1:16:29] but outside our organizations.
[1:16:31] A little bit,
[1:16:33] a county board, other county board members,
[1:16:34] but then what's on the county date.
[1:16:37] What if we had a meeting out there and well we could we could but I mean it's
[1:16:42] one again
[1:16:43] Well, we would always have a part meeting when I was a little injured and
[1:16:48] But it was always just the members of the committee and I'd like to probably invite more people out there
[1:16:55] But she'd stay in County people if we're gonna have a meeting. I'm gonna have a gathering out there and have a
[1:17:00] I don't have a presentation by rooted about what's going on out there
[1:17:03] And so maybe raise questions, give everybody an opportunity to raise questions about, like Dan mentioned, about processing and other things that we might want to address over the next 12 months.
[1:17:15] So let's start looking at some of the facilities we have and see how they fit into the food action plan and then move forward and gives us a little focus too.
[1:17:25] Would it be valuable also to have a few people that are impacted? I mean, Dan, you're on the council, but other people that are impacted by not having, I think he said there wasn't always water or there's there's not a shed to store.
[1:17:41] If we're having other entities come in like rooted, it would be kind of valuable to have maybe a few of the actual producers to share some of their stories.
[1:17:49] I think that's great. Yeah. Yeah, to follow up with what Sebastian was saying, it would be valuable in my head to have, you know,
[1:18:01] minority producers, you know, there's an extra layer on there's showing some kind of equity there with.
[1:18:09] Well, I think it's important. We have a listening session out there from the producers and find out what are some.
[1:18:14] I guess I'm just saying, let's not have the, I mean, we're always talking about the same entities
[1:18:20] and it happens with the pie grants too. It's always the same people. I guess I'm looking
[1:18:25] for some others that are impacted that aren't always represented by Reep and, you know, rooted
[1:18:32] and all of the major players. That's all I meant. But I think having a formal meeting kind of
[1:18:39] that community input out there, or any.
[1:18:42] I'm not talking about a meeting.
[1:18:44] You said gathering.
[1:18:45] Right, that's what I'm talking about, too.
[1:18:47] I thought you were talking about.
[1:18:49] Well, either way, I think it's important that we have
[1:18:51] listened to some producers out there and get that information.
[1:18:54] I agree with you, surely.
[1:18:55] I'm not finding that.
[1:18:56] No, no, I was confused, but you met.
[1:18:58] I think a gathering would be better also,
[1:19:00] because sometimes we don't have quorum.
[1:19:02] And let's say, you know, five people go out there,
[1:19:04] and then we don't have quorum.
[1:19:06] kind of irritating, then you can't have the meeting. Just my.
[1:19:11] Right. I, I.
[1:19:14] When are I doing this?
[1:19:16] Well, possibly for us.
[1:19:19] I brought it up as September meeting.
[1:19:20] Because I, I really, you know, we, we always say,
[1:19:25] nobody knows who we are.
[1:19:27] I mean, really, the only reason not to have a meeting
[1:19:30] is some people just won't be able to say it at home
[1:19:32] and come on Zoom and come to the meeting.
[1:19:35] I think I would prefer to have a meeting out there.
[1:19:39] I'd prefer the next year to have three meetings out in the world and is there any reason
[1:19:44] other than inconvenience that in three years from now we can't have six of our meetings out
[1:19:49] and about and did talking with the community, being engaged with the community.
[1:19:54] And I think this would be a good first step.
[1:19:56] I mean, September is going to be well.
[1:20:00] There's county board meetings every single week, cousin, budget. It almost every committee is having a budget presentation. The only two nights that are open are the 7th and 21st. Otherwise, there's a major committee meeting every single night.
[1:20:18] And each one of them is a budget presentation. So none of those common board supervisors are going to miss it.
[1:20:25] I'm sure even more than those in public works, I mean, to personal finance and helping
[1:20:30] the services, but I mean, the county board has one, two, three, four, five full meetings in September.
[1:20:37] I'll talk about Tuesday next Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, just depends which week.
[1:20:46] But let's go out there as a council and listen to the people who are working out there and see what
[1:20:52] issues are. If you're trying to draw the boards, you can go. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you're
[1:20:57] feeling better, I'm forward. Yeah, yeah, if we're doing, I mean, like, the growers out there,
[1:21:01] all right. Well, what you're saying has a lot of value, but I wonder if as we're launching
[1:21:09] this plan, right? And the community starts to become engaged with it. Maybe we grow into
[1:21:15] what you're talking about. I don't know that a committee meeting, I mean, a council meeting
[1:21:21] is very enticing at the beginning here if you don't really know a lot, but once, you know,
[1:21:28] the food plans out there a little more and people are kind of encouraged about what it is,
[1:21:33] then they might want to sit through a meeting.
[1:21:35] Otherwise, some of this can be a little bit dull.
[1:21:38] I just mean for somebody who's not engaged with it, right?
[1:21:41] But if you have a gathering and get people kind of, you know, involved with what the food
[1:21:47] system is and what we're talking about and giving them a chance to communicate.
[1:21:51] I know you already did that with the food plan, but we're saying getting used to and learning
[1:21:55] what the council is before we actually, you know, host the meeting out where I just, that's
[1:22:01] my opinion.
[1:22:03] I guess my thought would be to be more with a listening and talking session and then after
[1:22:09] that's done, we go on to the regular agenda and people can stay or not.
[1:22:14] So you start with, say, a pot locker or whatever because you're at a food event and then
[1:22:21] you have listening session first. So only only whoever is interested in the meeting would
[1:22:29] stay. So then we cooperate, we do that first in the meeting and then we go on to minutes
[1:22:36] and everything else.
[1:22:40] And that would be how I would design all the meetings out in the community
[1:22:42] because you want to continue to stay. Yeah, you don't want them to have to sit through minutes and
[1:22:48] And the other stuff, another report, unless they choose to be.
[1:22:54] Yeah, I really like the idea that, you know, it's removing forward to try to make that happen.
[1:23:00] Whether it's possible yet this fall or not, I guess.
[1:23:04] I mean, with all the county board meetings, maybe it's going to be a little bit tough.
[1:23:10] I don't know if folks there in the room can see, I did put in the chat.
[1:23:14] I am likely going to be trying to work with rooted to host a field day there, I'm trying to do it with harvesting some of my corn and kind of showing some of that.
[1:23:29] But that might just throw in that out there is another possible opportunity.
[1:23:34] The part of where I had suggested Anderson is I think there's a lot of mung growers there,
[1:23:42] a lot of diversity, it looks beautiful right now.
[1:23:45] All the flowers, all that just don't float, that comes off of those fields is great, but
[1:23:51] then also some of that, you know, the challenges of equipment infrastructure, but seeing how
[1:23:57] people are able to kind of adapt to just work with one another a little bit, and there's
[1:24:02] pantry guard end there too. So those were some of the reasons why I suggested Anderson,
[1:24:09] but if timing is going to be tight this fall, maybe it's something we also look ahead for.
[1:24:19] Those guys are going to go through all about COVID. I'm just saying, yeah, you know, I'm home.
[1:24:23] Yeah, I'm thinking more than, you know, I originally thought, well, maybe we'll get a lot of
[1:24:27] Council member, but it is the busy time of the year for Supervisor. I think we are just
[1:24:32] go out there as a food council, not saying your time is not a valuable either, but be part
[1:24:39] of food council and be a listening group, you know, and talk, and talk with the growers out there
[1:24:47] and Dan, you seem to be optimistic that we can get a lot of people out there who are using that
[1:24:51] space come to talk to us about some of the challenges. Let's listen to those challenges and let's
[1:24:57] use that as a kind of a model to go forward with.
[1:25:00] And let's do it next month in September, you know, why the weather's still good in, you know, October is going to be pretty much dead gardens, or, you know, in the decision, I'd like to get it there before the season ends. If this looks that night, I've been out there too, Dan, and it looks beautiful.
[1:25:16] Yeah, you want to do it lots of work. Yeah. And have the people come out and give us an earful and maybe when we want to go out there or not to agree.
[1:25:23] You know what you might want to do is contact the coming execs office and see it shunt them all.
[1:25:30] That would drive interest to drive a little bit of grass and drive maybe more people showing
[1:25:35] that as a plant.
[1:25:37] That would be a way to try to get.
[1:25:41] But you know this is do a listing session and be listeners and can kind of tell people and you know
[1:25:53] of it, and talk to people about, get the practice of part of the food system's plan that I heard
[1:25:58] that we were going to have community meetings, and let's try a community meeting up there.
[1:26:04] That's what I was thinking, Carl, and, you know, it's kind of an organic way to spread information,
[1:26:11] and plant some seeds, yes, I said it.
[1:26:17] I like you comment about the boring session.
[1:26:22] But just being until we got ourselves really organized, I don't think people, you know, this isn't like, oh, let's go to account for meeting.
[1:26:31] Exactly.
[1:26:32] And I think it's not going to hurt.
[1:26:35] It's not going to hurt to go out there.
[1:26:36] He was only four or five of us.
[1:26:38] You know, and we can bring that back to a regular meeting.
[1:26:41] Maybe the next month.
[1:26:43] And we can bring that back to a regular meeting.
[1:26:43] And start talking about a strategy.
[1:26:44] you know, implement some of the issues that you're done, you own.
[1:26:48] So it's not so often about having people come here at a council meeting to talk to us.
[1:26:53] Why not take it on the road?
[1:26:55] Why make them drive to us, you know, and come up with what to say?
[1:26:59] I would like you right here about six meetings out of this room,
[1:27:03] because I've been on this committee now the second time around,
[1:27:07] and I can count on one hand.
[1:27:10] Well, I can't, no, I can count on two fingers.
[1:27:12] sometime we met and outside of this on two different, you know, and maybe five or six years of being on this committee.
[1:27:19] And it just doesn't, you know, it looks better if we are addressing the needs of the community and we can't do that unless we listen to what the names are.
[1:27:27] So Dan, question for you. Is there a day, like I don't know if daytime hours are possible for any of us or if it would have to be in anything, but is there a specific day of the weekend or, you know, time that.
[1:27:40] But people would already be there.
[1:27:55] We dropped off.
[1:27:56] Oh, if you're talking, you're like,
[1:27:58] oh, I've got a hard stop at 730.
[1:28:02] Oh, okay.
[1:28:05] So that's my recommendation that we meet up there.
[1:28:08] Okay.
[1:28:09] Well, how about you and Shirley and I can talk.
[1:28:12] I don't know.
[1:28:13] We're going to next week or.
[1:28:15] Well, we're going to be getting involved with that.
[1:28:17] Yeah.
[1:28:17] Yeah.
[1:28:17] Yeah.
[1:28:17] Yeah.
[1:28:17] Yeah.
[1:28:18] Just notice it.
[1:28:20] out there, right? Yeah, just notice it. Yeah. Okay. What do we make it as a gallery?
[1:28:27] We just notice that as an event, a setting where there might be a potential DCFC
[1:28:33] forum,
[1:28:36] but okay. Well, we'll split up and go into different fields. Actually, make sure
[1:28:42] there's not a forum. You might want to let the slide start just to try and make sure
[1:28:47] don't get one of the full companies for you. Okay. I'm sure. Who's the representative for
[1:28:54] Anderson from?
[1:28:57] I do. I do public job. Jerry, you're public. Oh, okay. Jerry.
[1:29:04] You're public. Yeah, so as you want to talk about that. Yeah, obviously you mean too
[1:29:09] on this community. You want to try and make it. Okay. But I really suggest you are reaching out to
[1:29:15] was just trying to write a write letter.
[1:29:18] No, not at all.
[1:29:20] OK.
[1:29:23] There's not a lot to see.
[1:29:24] It's a comparison.
[1:29:25] They don't know who they are.
[1:29:26] Well, it's a budget timing with the section.
[1:29:29] And right now.
[1:29:30] Well, it should be quiet.
[1:29:31] It should have submitted by that.
[1:29:34] I'll try to show that.
[1:29:35] I'll try to show that.
[1:29:37] I'll show that.
[1:29:38] So then coming up, we have picked us up.
[1:29:41] Temporary date for our meeting.
[1:29:45] Well, yeah, I would just, so I mean, today's point,
[1:29:48] the normally we're scheduled for September 16th,
[1:29:51] that's a 10 county budget hearing, that night.
[1:29:56] So our two supervisors have a conflict with that.
[1:29:59] That's it.
[1:30:00] Your one and three?
[1:30:01] Yeah. All right, it's not a there's not full County Board meeting that night or hearing, but I don't know.
[1:30:12] Sure there's something on the 23rd.
[1:30:21] By the way, I'm so sorry. My phone or soldier or something's having issues today. I'd keep having to restart my phone.
[1:30:29] Sure, right when you were asking it, it froze up.
[1:30:32] The 23rd year.
[1:30:34] That's okay, I figured.
[1:30:36] That's probably the part commissions of 530, but I'm not that's probably not.
[1:30:42] You've got, I will be in San Diego that week.
[1:30:46] I'm also, I'm also, we're, we're hosting a big inner tribal harvest gathering.
[1:30:51] And September 23rd to 26 up in Hochunk.
[1:30:54] So I won't be available on the 23rd.
[1:30:56] I have a class of that evening from six today.
[1:31:03] What was that semester?
[1:31:03] It was a class that evening.
[1:31:06] Well, so I'm going to just have the gathering in September and have meeting in October.
[1:31:12] Yeah, that sounds good.
[1:31:13] Kind of date for the gathering.
[1:31:15] That sounds good.
[1:31:16] All right.
[1:31:17] So Dan, I guess I don't know if you heard the question or if you haven't
[1:31:21] we thought is there a date in September where that might be better than others?
[1:31:27] How about the week before the 23rd, the week of the, as soon as we got a calendar?
[1:31:41] We can't do Wednesday the 16th, but we don't necessarily have to do a Wednesday.
[1:31:44] Do we? The 17th is Health and Human needs, excuse me, personal finances on the 14 which is that Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday is coming full coming boards. So we have to do it on Thursday, but Friday. I don't think you want to do a Friday.
[1:32:04] No, no Friday. Monday. Do you want to hear people going to fight for budget?
[1:32:11] I'd probably avoid money aid, if you're going to over a while, it's your chance,
[1:32:15] I'm going to be in practice.
[1:32:16] But he needs to talk back.
[1:32:18] So we'd probably, Thursday,
[1:32:21] that's 15.
[1:32:27] No, no, Sam, what's on?
[1:32:30] What's that?
[1:32:32] It's scheduled for the 16th.
[1:32:33] It's not scheduled on.
[1:32:34] Why do you start?
[1:32:36] It's just us saying it's always in the moon.
[1:32:39] Our normal day would be on the 16th.
[1:32:41] 16 like it. It's
[1:32:47] It's
[1:32:48] It's
[1:32:49] It's
[1:32:49] So good to keep up for now
[1:32:53] Yeah, so I'm gonna make an
[1:32:54] And then we have the same time
[1:32:57] Like this
[1:32:58] Six
[1:33:00] Like
[1:33:01] In the dark over here
[1:33:03] I'm going to have Dan and Jess
[1:33:08] And
[1:33:08] Something else figure all that out
[1:33:10] Yeah, so Bill, maybe you've just myself could talk and then you're out with rooted, maybe a food
[1:33:20] to connect with, and then I'm thinking Brian Art from the Dan County Pantry Gardens who also
[1:33:26] has involved with helping to lead some of the food as medicine work. He's a local physician with
[1:33:32] UW, but we could talk more of exact plans and who to work with.
[1:33:41] Okay, by the hood, so it is six, well, most everybody, I mean, nobody has a regular job.
[1:33:52] Do they have the console?
[1:33:57] So, Sebastian's in school and farming. Dan is farmer. I'm farmer. I'm farmer. You're retired.
[1:34:04] Surely, you have flexible time, right? Yeah. Erica, and I don't know what Paula does. She's retired.
[1:34:15] So, regular job, what you meant was, people could be flexible because they work in the food
[1:34:21] systems and bright bill.
[1:34:26] So, I mean, we can even go for a clock, I suppose.
[1:34:31] Okay, good to tell you, I mean, has anybody opposed to that?
[1:34:34] No, that'd be better with the traffic.
[1:34:39] I don't know if there's a traffic in Oregon, this is a little back home for me in the hallway.
[1:34:43] It's a county A, there's no traffic.
[1:34:47] Same way to me.
[1:34:49] But that's four o'clock on the 17th.
[1:34:52] I'll send out a calendar hold and then.
[1:34:54] The directions are how you get better too.
[1:34:56] Yeah, yeah.
[1:34:57] Well first I'm just going to send out a calendar hold and then we'll.
[1:35:00] All right. So then we need what's our October meeting date then?
[1:35:09] I don't have enough to have my head, but I'll put it in there.
[1:35:13] All right.
[1:35:18] So the next month for the next meeting, we're going to let Chair and Vice Chair.
[1:35:24] So I think about it, want to do it, paint my plan, run for it, and any announcements?
[1:35:34] I would just want Sebastian and Dan to consider the vice chair position.
[1:35:45] We'll respectfully decline, and I do have a non-ferring job too, and I'm very, very
[1:35:52] stressed than we know.
[1:35:54] I'm happy to throw my head in the
[1:36:00] rain.
[1:36:00] Any other announcements?
[1:36:04] Any other business as allowed by law?
[1:36:08] The motion to adjourn, so move.
[1:36:10] Carl Moon?
[1:36:11] Second.
[1:36:14] Second.
[1:36:15] I'll pay every say I don't forget.
[1:36:17] So totally.
[1:36:18] All right.