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and down - and there's another option
you can just go across the road from

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where his this hydrant is go across the
road not along and I kept anglers field

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there and that would help to other water
users Duke has a shared yet dangles

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culinary and staff rooms have a shared
so there's three lines on that side of

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the screen and really none on my side of
the street you're gonna fight through

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that if I just talked to redeploy your
community Robert I was talking to him

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about his water tastes better you know
it's cheaper and so woody pieces yes

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made his mind up not sure he wants the
water so why not put that line

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you're not the place you want to dig
through there's a gas line and that's a

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number Eastwood there's an electrical
line and that's a me and the Eastman

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Eastman like an art property we own over
to the other side of the road we have 20

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feet of that 22 feet of that road is our
property so there is nothing on the

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other side my proposal is go across the
road from where it is right now take

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care of the stefanos and Dukes they may
already have their life vitamins and Kip

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has - so we got three hydrants there
thank you look at the subdivision

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it shows the abilities on the other side
for us we do have

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so we looked at the easement when we
designed it and generally I like to keep

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a lot of lying on one side of the road
keep the utility corners the same

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throughout because when we start
crossing with blinds it gets complicated

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and messy very quickly and so when we
looked at that work but the plan is to

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put the floor like right off the edge
asphalt which if the utilities that they

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sent me are correct which is why we're
out of mistakes I can confirm there

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should be a corridor there that is not
as far off of the asphalt the gas line

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currently is but it would keep it on
that same road but there must present

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there that time and there and it appears
from looking at the right away so we

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would be well within my right away so I
agree with the 22 feet but it's you know

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that those 50 feet back gives us 22 you
know seven or eight feet there and we're

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talking about being right off the edge
as well there's only a couple they would

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have to close one way obviously they do
work that guess line this is a little

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that might change things and that's why
we had a bar but the plans they sent me

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show it in a different location short
way back at the very head to the right

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away about the you know the asphalt and
if that's correct that's like I'd be

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lying right next to you at home why we
blues date is because a lot of times

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that's not right dude also don't you
have to allow a certain distance between

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the gas line
no no the only criteria there certainly

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a each city has a standard for help for
buildable distance the only state code

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I'm aware of is the water and sewer
can't be in the same trench there's

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plumbing codes regarding electrical
power but I'm not aware of anything

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regarding water and power or water and
gas obviously didn't like to be far

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enough apart that when you're gonna have
a water line we don't hit the gas and

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vice versa so so you have a 30-foot
easement on that side of the road 22

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feet of it already is part of the road
right and then the other eight feet you

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have two lines running in there already
and it just makes more sense quarter

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preservation so when we get water lines
are going back across the road the notes

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are really hard to get anything in in
the future and that was why I remember

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on when we did the big water line
project we had a gas line that did that

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on a crossroad went down about 300 feet
will back across the road and out there

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are people about and we made them fix it
that's was right in front of my house

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and it certainly happened after they
gasoline but when we do that it makes it

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really hard to figure out to get future
utilities in and so yeah we're shooting

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there something you can very easily
shoot yourself in the foot there's

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certainly place to where it's done and
if the gas line is right off the asphalt

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you don't have any more easement there's
certainly reasons why we may have to do

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that looking if the utilities the way
they were drawn on the map it looked

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like there was plenty of room to keep it
down on that side of the asphalt and I

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think that makes more sense from a
porter preservation same point as far as

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the people that are interested today
what we have on the plans is every lot

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we plan on setting a camp
whether they were active or not because

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when you're there you know put a call of
perceivable locations some would be

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usually hits with these right away
potentially mess maybe right away others

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might not be used for years we did the
same thing I'm right you know if we were

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in the water like that once I on the
road we dive across where we had to put

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cams and connections to every lot those
Lots haven't paid for those connections

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yet but we did it all once was a lot
more contractors and so we would propose

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to do the same thing here but regardless
of what side were left on we would cut

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across and run services to all of the
available locks so that when the current

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or future owners wanted access we have
the infrastructure in place

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and so without having seen the gas line
I don't know if I have I don't have a

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recommendation on whether or not we need
to move it to the other side of the room

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the gas line is where you're saying it
is the nice would agree that the plan I

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have with with the water line right
underneath the gas line and that's not

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going to work

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not impossible but they've got a lot
more expensive but we won't know until

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the that Delta field just gets sparkling
water if you are how do you handle that

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with the contract they were a change
order and so the change order would be

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in the fittings and then the asphalt and
so we have a square foot price on the

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asphalt so that one would be probably
easy to figure and the fittings have

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have a cost on the market so the asphalt
stated saying you have to cross through

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of a anyway whoever gives so if you
cross the road just up the road a little

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bit it won't because we're putting
services then they asked what makes it

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the same so we may be talking about a
couple fittings but but regardless that

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we have a cost for asphalt and who would
negotiated cuts for fittings and then we

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have I thought we had pretty much

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or a certain amount yeah yeah I don't
have any money

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yeah the water line is more expensive so
this probably isn't a good time to bring

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up your daughter on the coping 37 watt
go your way okay another question about

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the right way is if it ends up not being
right on the edge of the ice ball is it

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gonna it moves over or we're gonna end
up incurring costs and fencing and

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landscaping and driveways and all that
stuff as we go down that side of the

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street potentially I need billing at the
Bliss dates so I already find that

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crossing the driveway so what do you
rested that way at the asphalt light be

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back probably doesn't change things very
much the landscaping at least the very

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first part was already part of it so
whether you dig up just by feet of

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that's my feet I think that's the same
it would become the fencing which

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there's some fencing that's already well
within the right way and that becomes a

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question of what do we do with that do
we know are we allowing new fences to be

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built in the right way and we have to
take down to be put back to be put back

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in the right way or we go back on the
right

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we're supposed to be those are all good
questions that would need to be answers

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before we proceed so they have I think a
lot of I don't think we're supposed to

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do Stanley I don't think we're as close
to going if people think we are just

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because there's paint on the ground the
paint on the ground was a attempt to

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determine whether or not what you told
me company Sunday was correct and it

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sounds like it wasn't by Mary skirt-like
receipt I could see your ex's point on

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the other side of the road and it's just
open field you're going to keeping it

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clean and all right now it's easy to say
oh these are here it's easier there when

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we did the design last time we worked
really hard I'm picking one side of the

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road or the other and stick with it even
through the areas that got tight because

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if you maybe happen to crossing you've
just made it almost impossible but

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anything else anywhere in that corridor
in the future yeah and I know we have no

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plans for anything new and tell me do so
we have to work with them it's always

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about and I don't know that the other
side of the road isn't a better option

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what I have on my utility maps what I
have worked and made the most sense when

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utilities get map differently

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they ride really good I've been out of a
few of these after we get contractors

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turning in a change order first thing
out of writing about this well here's a

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contract what change okay who approve
that change so he really watches out for

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the town okay so we still have get them
with me what do you want to do on this

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application cycle ends before discussing
the site right you made a motion I saw

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three hits so so much because I'm asking
you what what if we want to do how do

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you want to proceed
you have you have done that prior and so

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the site plan the sight line is the
issue of is the setback so clarity

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that's I think one of the easiest things
to do but whatever you guys want to do

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is this one's up to you guys so at this
point we'll entertain a motion and

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discuss it discuss

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Hey break it again J okay I move that we
continue this until next time okay

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a second type of ocean I have a second
discuss it on the motion no discussions

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okay call for the vote all in favor any
opposed

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any motion carries five to one

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yeah he's good okay that this will
continue to our next find information

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that takes us to item number six
approval of the April minutes I have one

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question throughout the meeting
you have 20 tricks meetings were in

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active service I'm sorry what we did is
that I work for you the we met with Ron

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from Twin Creeks who's looking at
getting we talked earlier about the

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building better system and whether the
town would incorporate that system in

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water line to service Stonehaven and
that would be one of our transmission

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area lines and be able to service those
people that are at capacity right now

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but in bumps we talked to probably a
year ago two years ago they have applied

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for a grant they've got the engineering
done and in fact the bid is in the back

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of the way for a 12 inch water line to
go down Mill Road and then up the

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highway all the way to a little sweet
rope tie that system in 12 inch water

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line so there's apply for the grant
Twinkies and so they secured to grant

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and it's in the design phase
that's actually activating it so that

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they damn taking care of their shortfall

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so coming on with Billy feathers their
and expands really feathers to on down

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build room and where they big night
no it's going down the road and then up

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the highway the highway border all the
way to little sweet road and we'll

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connect their service the building the
other Susan right because it was a

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capacity remember we had one of the
residents that got the last dodo

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so then line running up the highway will
tie in with the existing really brothers

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to feed that system for at home
and then there's the and seward into

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that what's the sewer out of that well
we met with them and we talked about the

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sewer and that line across Mill Road is
all in the Twin Creeks area so it's

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service by sewer because it's in between
Creek area and so that the way that

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works is the application comes to the
town and their town doesn't it

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negotiation with typically to hook into
that sewer line which is also across the

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highway no I already goes up to the
trailer park so that in negotiations or

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is it just in quality no it's done it's
we're in that area so so that's gonna

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take care of something as part of the
discussion with something you know

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someday will that work right so we
didn't even know was an option so we met

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with them and discuss what they was
offering one thing that's a special

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service district that's the only portion
only the course one that comes in yes

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and the sewer is up to the trailer park
now it is yes servicing that trailer

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park on it but it doesn't go past the
trailer

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the highway and I believe that 12h a
lovely service it will be out of date no

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ma'am it's a 12 inch sewer line water
okay what's what's nice is the sooner I

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don't know about the independence back
shows commercial and residential one

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bunch of roads off the highway and a lot
bigger than what we're discussing here

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tonight oh yeah 600 Eagles that's gonna
be it's huge so this uh is this

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twittering seward crossing in the
devil's city limits open the door for

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other municipalities to teens who are
into them

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no it does exactly the opposite can't
rain sewer from another municipality

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into special service didn't true it's a
town and Daniel had its own sewer it's

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already serviced by this district and so
when you go to that's all protected in

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that they went got to Grant's that's why
do you have that it's all protected as

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their their area so if you proton that
then you have to go through the courts

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if you're cooking on that area the
potential you can't work it out you'll

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end up in court and so that's that's why
the process is they apply to the town

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and there's a town negotiations between
creeps typically what that means is

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doing pretty charges this bunch of town
tax on their administration fees and

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charges the customer that's how it works
just curious X protects opening the door

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to more lurid or Roth availabilities
because there is a sewer service sewer

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service yeah that's a great concern
close to our borders right and that date

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right back to what I said about the
Health Department don't hang your zoning

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on the septic requirement because things
change they have Microsystems now I mean

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everything changes there's only should
be based on on the things of where ours

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is based on the values general plan all
the things that we talk about because

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that's what happened in the county they
went are a 5 because it one one seven

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four five but it doesn't call up that's
going to be an experience yeah baby

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Bluebird here is to go bug about it in
in town the town does have if you look

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on the zoning map up above there above
the red barn we have are a one on that

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side to highway cool to be able to
develop that they're going to have to

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run that super wide so and there's some
interest looking at stuff that way right

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now so as bad Miami does more and more
valuable it becomes pieces

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thank you it's a busy little patient
yeah okay so approval of minutes April

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18 everybody had a chance to review
those any Corrections or additions there

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is one Tricia Tricia Xavier her name is
Tricia

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andr I don't think she signed in that's
okay okay so does your motion to stand

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with that correction yes okay looking
for a second holster motion in a second

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any discussion seeing none for the favor

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okay
I don't remember seven motion to hear a

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motion to adjourn
okay got motions our second on favor we

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stand adjourned until our next meeting
okay before 9:30