[0:00] and down - and there's another option
you can just go across the road from
[0:09] where his this hydrant is go across the
road not along and I kept anglers field
[0:18] there and that would help to other water
users Duke has a shared yet dangles
[0:26] culinary and staff rooms have a shared
so there's three lines on that side of
[0:35] the screen and really none on my side of
the street you're gonna fight through
[0:42] that if I just talked to redeploy your
community Robert I was talking to him
[0:53] about his water tastes better you know
it's cheaper and so woody pieces yes
[1:01] made his mind up not sure he wants the
water so why not put that line
[1:08] you're not the place you want to dig
through there's a gas line and that's a
[1:13] number Eastwood there's an electrical
line and that's a me and the Eastman
[1:21] Eastman like an art property we own over
to the other side of the road we have 20
[1:29] feet of that 22 feet of that road is our
property so there is nothing on the
[1:38] other side my proposal is go across the
road from where it is right now take
[1:53] care of the stefanos and Dukes they may
already have their life vitamins and Kip
[1:59] has - so we got three hydrants there
thank you look at the subdivision
[2:10] it shows the abilities on the other side
for us we do have
[2:17] so we looked at the easement when we
designed it and generally I like to keep
[2:21] a lot of lying on one side of the road
keep the utility corners the same
[2:25] throughout because when we start
crossing with blinds it gets complicated
[2:28] and messy very quickly and so when we
looked at that work but the plan is to
[2:32] put the floor like right off the edge
asphalt which if the utilities that they
[2:37] sent me are correct which is why we're
out of mistakes I can confirm there
[2:41] should be a corridor there that is not
as far off of the asphalt the gas line
[2:45] currently is but it would keep it on
that same road but there must present
[2:50] there that time and there and it appears
from looking at the right away so we
[2:54] would be well within my right away so I
agree with the 22 feet but it's you know
[2:59] that those 50 feet back gives us 22 you
know seven or eight feet there and we're
[3:04] talking about being right off the edge
as well there's only a couple they would
[3:08] have to close one way obviously they do
work that guess line this is a little
[3:16] that might change things and that's why
we had a bar but the plans they sent me
[3:20] show it in a different location short
way back at the very head to the right
[3:23] away about the you know the asphalt and
if that's correct that's like I'd be
[3:26] lying right next to you at home why we
blues date is because a lot of times
[3:30] that's not right dude also don't you
have to allow a certain distance between
[3:38] the gas line
no no the only criteria there certainly
[3:47] a each city has a standard for help for
buildable distance the only state code
[3:53] I'm aware of is the water and sewer
can't be in the same trench there's
[3:57] plumbing codes regarding electrical
power but I'm not aware of anything
[4:00] regarding water and power or water and
gas obviously didn't like to be far
[4:06] enough apart that when you're gonna have
a water line we don't hit the gas and
[4:08] vice versa so so you have a 30-foot
easement on that side of the road 22
[4:15] feet of it already is part of the road
right and then the other eight feet you
[4:22] have two lines running in there already
and it just makes more sense quarter
[4:44] preservation so when we get water lines
are going back across the road the notes
[4:48] are really hard to get anything in in
the future and that was why I remember
[4:51] on when we did the big water line
project we had a gas line that did that
[4:54] on a crossroad went down about 300 feet
will back across the road and out there
[4:57] are people about and we made them fix it
that's was right in front of my house
[5:04] and it certainly happened after they
gasoline but when we do that it makes it
[5:07] really hard to figure out to get future
utilities in and so yeah we're shooting
[5:12] there something you can very easily
shoot yourself in the foot there's
[5:15] certainly place to where it's done and
if the gas line is right off the asphalt
[5:18] you don't have any more easement there's
certainly reasons why we may have to do
[5:22] that looking if the utilities the way
they were drawn on the map it looked
[5:27] like there was plenty of room to keep it
down on that side of the asphalt and I
[5:30] think that makes more sense from a
porter preservation same point as far as
[5:35] the people that are interested today
what we have on the plans is every lot
[5:38] we plan on setting a camp
whether they were active or not because
[5:42] when you're there you know put a call of
perceivable locations some would be
[5:46] usually hits with these right away
potentially mess maybe right away others
[5:51] might not be used for years we did the
same thing I'm right you know if we were
[5:54] in the water like that once I on the
road we dive across where we had to put
[5:57] cams and connections to every lot those
Lots haven't paid for those connections
[6:02] yet but we did it all once was a lot
more contractors and so we would propose
[6:07] to do the same thing here but regardless
of what side were left on we would cut
[6:11] across and run services to all of the
available locks so that when the current
[6:16] or future owners wanted access we have
the infrastructure in place
[6:24] and so without having seen the gas line
I don't know if I have I don't have a
[6:28] recommendation on whether or not we need
to move it to the other side of the room
[6:31] the gas line is where you're saying it
is the nice would agree that the plan I
[6:36] have with with the water line right
underneath the gas line and that's not
[6:39] going to work
[6:44] not impossible but they've got a lot
more expensive but we won't know until
[6:47] the that Delta field just gets sparkling
water if you are how do you handle that
[6:57] with the contract they were a change
order and so the change order would be
[7:04] in the fittings and then the asphalt and
so we have a square foot price on the
[7:08] asphalt so that one would be probably
easy to figure and the fittings have
[7:12] have a cost on the market so the asphalt
stated saying you have to cross through
[7:18] of a anyway whoever gives so if you
cross the road just up the road a little
[7:24] bit it won't because we're putting
services then they asked what makes it
[7:28] the same so we may be talking about a
couple fittings but but regardless that
[7:31] we have a cost for asphalt and who would
negotiated cuts for fittings and then we
[7:35] have I thought we had pretty much
[7:47] or a certain amount yeah yeah I don't
have any money
[8:03] yeah the water line is more expensive so
this probably isn't a good time to bring
[8:26] up your daughter on the coping 37 watt
go your way okay another question about
[8:42] the right way is if it ends up not being
right on the edge of the ice ball is it
[8:46] gonna it moves over or we're gonna end
up incurring costs and fencing and
[8:51] landscaping and driveways and all that
stuff as we go down that side of the
[8:55] street potentially I need billing at the
Bliss dates so I already find that
[9:02] crossing the driveway so what do you
rested that way at the asphalt light be
[9:06] back probably doesn't change things very
much the landscaping at least the very
[9:11] first part was already part of it so
whether you dig up just by feet of
[9:14] that's my feet I think that's the same
it would become the fencing which
[9:18] there's some fencing that's already well
within the right way and that becomes a
[9:22] question of what do we do with that do
we know are we allowing new fences to be
[9:26] built in the right way and we have to
take down to be put back to be put back
[9:30] in the right way or we go back on the
right
[9:32] we're supposed to be those are all good
questions that would need to be answers
[9:36] before we proceed so they have I think a
lot of I don't think we're supposed to
[9:40] do Stanley I don't think we're as close
to going if people think we are just
[9:43] because there's paint on the ground the
paint on the ground was a attempt to
[9:47] determine whether or not what you told
me company Sunday was correct and it
[9:52] sounds like it wasn't by Mary skirt-like
receipt I could see your ex's point on
[10:00] the other side of the road and it's just
open field you're going to keeping it
[10:07] clean and all right now it's easy to say
oh these are here it's easier there when
[10:17] we did the design last time we worked
really hard I'm picking one side of the
[10:21] road or the other and stick with it even
through the areas that got tight because
[10:25] if you maybe happen to crossing you've
just made it almost impossible but
[10:28] anything else anywhere in that corridor
in the future yeah and I know we have no
[10:33] plans for anything new and tell me do so
we have to work with them it's always
[10:43] about and I don't know that the other
side of the road isn't a better option
[10:47] what I have on my utility maps what I
have worked and made the most sense when
[10:54] utilities get map differently
[10:58] they ride really good I've been out of a
few of these after we get contractors
[11:03] turning in a change order first thing
out of writing about this well here's a
[11:07] contract what change okay who approve
that change so he really watches out for
[11:12] the town okay so we still have get them
with me what do you want to do on this
[11:33] application cycle ends before discussing
the site right you made a motion I saw
[11:52] three hits so so much because I'm asking
you what what if we want to do how do
[11:59] you want to proceed
you have you have done that prior and so
[12:04] the site plan the sight line is the
issue of is the setback so clarity
[12:11] that's I think one of the easiest things
to do but whatever you guys want to do
[12:17] is this one's up to you guys so at this
point we'll entertain a motion and
[12:22] discuss it discuss
[12:27] Hey break it again J okay I move that we
continue this until next time okay
[12:37] a second type of ocean I have a second
discuss it on the motion no discussions
[12:46] okay call for the vote all in favor any
opposed
[12:51] any motion carries five to one
[12:58] yeah he's good okay that this will
continue to our next find information
[13:06] meeting
[13:09] [Music]
[13:13] that takes us to item number six
approval of the April minutes I have one
[13:21] question throughout the meeting
you have 20 tricks meetings were in
[13:26] active service I'm sorry what we did is
that I work for you the we met with Ron
[13:41] from Twin Creeks who's looking at
getting we talked earlier about the
[13:45] building better system and whether the
town would incorporate that system in
[13:49] water line to service Stonehaven and
that would be one of our transmission
[13:53] area lines and be able to service those
people that are at capacity right now
[13:58] but in bumps we talked to probably a
year ago two years ago they have applied
[14:05] for a grant they've got the engineering
done and in fact the bid is in the back
[14:09] of the way for a 12 inch water line to
go down Mill Road and then up the
[14:13] highway all the way to a little sweet
rope tie that system in 12 inch water
[14:18] line so there's apply for the grant
Twinkies and so they secured to grant
[14:23] and it's in the design phase
that's actually activating it so that
[15:26] they damn taking care of their shortfall
[15:32] so coming on with Billy feathers their
and expands really feathers to on down
[15:37] build room and where they big night
no it's going down the road and then up
[15:41] the highway the highway border all the
way to little sweet road and we'll
[15:45] connect their service the building the
other Susan right because it was a
[15:53] capacity remember we had one of the
residents that got the last dodo
[16:01] so then line running up the highway will
tie in with the existing really brothers
[16:06] to feed that system for at home
and then there's the and seward into
[16:12] that what's the sewer out of that well
we met with them and we talked about the
[16:17] sewer and that line across Mill Road is
all in the Twin Creeks area so it's
[16:23] service by sewer because it's in between
Creek area and so that the way that
[16:29] works is the application comes to the
town and their town doesn't it
[16:34] negotiation with typically to hook into
that sewer line which is also across the
[16:40] highway no I already goes up to the
trailer park so that in negotiations or
[16:45] is it just in quality no it's done it's
we're in that area so so that's gonna
[16:51] take care of something as part of the
discussion with something you know
[17:03] someday will that work right so we
didn't even know was an option so we met
[17:07] with them and discuss what they was
offering one thing that's a special
[17:11] service district that's the only portion
only the course one that comes in yes
[17:17] and the sewer is up to the trailer park
now it is yes servicing that trailer
[17:22] park on it but it doesn't go past the
trailer
[17:31] the highway and I believe that 12h a
lovely service it will be out of date no
[17:38] ma'am it's a 12 inch sewer line water
okay what's what's nice is the sooner I
[17:44] don't know about the independence back
shows commercial and residential one
[17:57] bunch of roads off the highway and a lot
bigger than what we're discussing here
[18:03] tonight oh yeah 600 Eagles that's gonna
be it's huge so this uh is this
[18:11] twittering seward crossing in the
devil's city limits open the door for
[18:18] other municipalities to teens who are
into them
[18:24] no it does exactly the opposite can't
rain sewer from another municipality
[18:27] into special service didn't true it's a
town and Daniel had its own sewer it's
[18:32] already serviced by this district and so
when you go to that's all protected in
[18:37] that they went got to Grant's that's why
do you have that it's all protected as
[18:41] their their area so if you proton that
then you have to go through the courts
[18:47] if you're cooking on that area the
potential you can't work it out you'll
[18:51] end up in court and so that's that's why
the process is they apply to the town
[18:56] and there's a town negotiations between
creeps typically what that means is
[19:01] doing pretty charges this bunch of town
tax on their administration fees and
[19:05] charges the customer that's how it works
just curious X protects opening the door
[19:13] to more lurid or Roth availabilities
because there is a sewer service sewer
[19:19] service yeah that's a great concern
close to our borders right and that date
[19:23] right back to what I said about the
Health Department don't hang your zoning
[19:26] on the septic requirement because things
change they have Microsystems now I mean
[19:32] everything changes there's only should
be based on on the things of where ours
[19:36] is based on the values general plan all
the things that we talk about because
[19:42] that's what happened in the county they
went are a 5 because it one one seven
[19:45] four five but it doesn't call up that's
going to be an experience yeah baby
[19:52] Bluebird here is to go bug about it in
in town the town does have if you look
[19:57] on the zoning map up above there above
the red barn we have are a one on that
[20:02] side to highway cool to be able to
develop that they're going to have to
[20:06] run that super wide so and there's some
interest looking at stuff that way right
[20:11] now so as bad Miami does more and more
valuable it becomes pieces
[20:20] thank you it's a busy little patient
yeah okay so approval of minutes April
[20:30] 18 everybody had a chance to review
those any Corrections or additions there
[20:44] is one Tricia Tricia Xavier her name is
Tricia
[20:50] Diamond Schneider is
[20:56] andr I don't think she signed in that's
okay okay so does your motion to stand
[21:11] with that correction yes okay looking
for a second holster motion in a second
[21:19] any discussion seeing none for the favor
[21:29] okay
I don't remember seven motion to hear a
[21:34] motion to adjourn
okay got motions our second on favor we
[21:41] stand adjourned until our next meeting
okay before 9:30