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And you came

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2026 meeting of the Danville City

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Council. Roll call to establish a

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quorum, please.

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>> Alderman Ed Butler,

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>> present.

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>> Mayor Ricky Williams, Jr.,

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>> present.

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>> Alderman Carolyn Deoy,

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>> present.

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>> James Pashard,

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>> present.

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>> Tom High Totower,

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>> here.

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>> Barry Johnson,

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>> present.

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>> Mike Okaine,

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>> here. Mike Poor

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>> present.

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>> Rick Strie, Sher Pickering

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>> here.

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>> Trisha Teague

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>> present.

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>> Eve Lewig

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>> present.

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>> Jalle Jones. Doug Arn

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>> present.

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>> John Cooper

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>> here.

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>> 12 present.

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Madam clerk, please let the

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record reflect that Alderman Strebin and

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Alderman uh Alderman Jones are out due

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to family commitments this evening.

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At this time, we will have the

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invocation uh led by Pastor Tom Myers of

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Crusaders Church, followed by the pledge

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of allegiance led by Alderman Teague.

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Please rise.

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» Let me begin with just a little

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scripture to guide us along the way

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here. Uh this is from the apostle Paul

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and he said this. Therefore, I exet

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exhort you first of all that

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supplications, prayers, intercessions,

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and giving of thanks be made for all

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men, for kings who are and all who are

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in authority, that we may lead a quiet

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and peaceable life in all godliness and

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reverence. For this is good and

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acceptable in the sight of God our

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Savior

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>> who desires all men

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>> to be saved and to come to the knowledge

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of truth.

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>> Amen.

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>> So let's pray.

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>> Amen.

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>> Heavenly Father, we seek your guidance

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>> for each one of these men and women

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before you this evening. We ask you to

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direct our hearts, our minds, and also

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speech and our actions in all matters.

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>> [snorts]

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>> so that whatever is done draws your

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praise.

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And may it all be done right in thy

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sight.

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>> Don't let us be misguided by basing our

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decisions on what is most expedient or

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pleasing in the moment or financially

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profitable

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>> because that is so many times humanly

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destructive. Mhm.

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>> But help us see the lives and the

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families behind every decision,

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>> not the dollars and the cents of

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revenue,

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>> Lord. Shape our future direction

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>> for our community and shape it away from

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any misguided decisions,

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even those of the past that may have

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slowly led us to the problems we end up

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facing today.

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>> So reshape, remold us. Yes.

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>> And do it according to your will.

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>> Yes, sir.

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>> We appeal to you, our God,

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>> who has made this promise.

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>> If my people,

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>> which are called by my name,

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>> shall humble themselves and pray

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>> Yes, sir.

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>> and seek my face

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>> and turn from their wicked ways,

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>> and I will.

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>> Then I will hear

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>> from heaven,

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>> and forgive their sin,

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>> and will heal their land. Yes, sir.

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>> Amen.

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>> I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> Thank you, Alderman Teague. Pastor, we'd

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love to hear about uh anything you uh

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about the church you'd like to share

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with us. Well, I want to begin by

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thanking you so much for beginning this

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meeting with an invocation,

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which means to call for help or support,

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guidance, and blessing.

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And uh I'm so glad that you did that. I

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think of the Apostle Paul and the

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statements that he made. You know, he

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got to speak uh he even had a governor

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call him and say, "I want you to tell me

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more about the word of God." Mhm.

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>> Of course, he was in front of a lot of

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councils and uh well, we don't want to

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talk about those things. [laughter]

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>> Take too long.

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>> But you know, you know, he he said we're

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supposed to pray for those who are in

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authority.

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>> And and we need to remember that as

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citizens, every one of us. Um, now this

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Sunday there'll be a special sermon

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um talking about the Danville City

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>> and you're all invited. [laughter]

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» I don't want you to worry.

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>> Don't worry. Not that kind of sermon.

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>> you don't have to be afraid.

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>> You know, it's it's really a good thing

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for me to be here. I remember the first

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time I came, I learned a whole lot.

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>> I've even applied some of what I learned

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in this council meeting.

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>> I I I learned a little bit about how

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things run.

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>> And uh I I the last time you talked

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about trees and deciding right away and

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stuff and you know, all of that that's

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knowledge that as citizens we really

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need. It's practical.

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>> Uh but I also got a chance to see your

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faces. I I do want to say that it

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disappoints me that the school district

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does a video with sound, not just sound.

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And I think that you guys deserve a

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video so that the the community can see

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your august personage and your smiling

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faces. So, uh if if that ever comes up

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for a vote, I'm voting for it. So, just

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if you you got I love your smiling

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faces. Uh [clears throat]

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it's uh it's it's going to be good news

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when I talk about the city council.

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Um good news, you know, that's literally

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a Greek word that that means the gospel.

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And whenever the gospel is used in the

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New Testament, that really is good news.

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And um one part of the good news that I

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have for you is that as I mentioned

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earlier, we are admonished to pray and

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intercede

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>> for each of you.

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>> That's our obligation.

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>> So uh God expects us to be praying for

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you. And then Paul who who said that

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goes on and says every person is to be

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subject to the governing authorities.

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Now isn't that good news? Amen. Can I

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get an amen?

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>> Amen brother.

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>> Amen. For there is no authority except

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from God, and those which exist are

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established by God. Therefore, whoever

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resists authority has opposed the

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authority of God, and those who have

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opposed will receive condemnation upon

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themselves. For rulers,

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>> are not a cause for fear,

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>> preaching now,

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>> or good behavior, but for evil.

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>> do you want to have no fear of

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authority? Paul says, "Then do what is

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good and you will have praise from the

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>> So, that's really good news, but it's a

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double-edged sword.

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>> That's right.

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>> Because it requires citizens to be

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subject to authority, but it lays upon

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>> the responsibility go ahead

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>> to promote good behavior

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>> and to oppose evil.

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>> What you say? So authorities and

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subjects alike must recognize that our

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primary concern

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>> is the con condemnation condemnation or

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praise from God.

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>> That's our concern.

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>> So the bottom line is that we are all

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ultimately subject to the authority of

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>> And that is why we should all be what we should all be praying about.

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>> Amen. So, Mayor Williams and members of

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the council and all those elected and

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appointed city officials and all those

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who serve this community, I want you to

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know that we'll keep praying for you and

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we'll give thanks to God for your

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service.

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>> Amen.

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>> So, God bless every one of you.

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>> Thank you, Pastor Myers. Amen.

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You have before you the minutes of uh

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September 1st, 2026 meeting. Is there a

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motion to approve those?

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>> It's been moved and seconded. Is there

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any discussion or debate?

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>> All those in favor, please signify by

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saying I.

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>> Any oppose? Same sign.

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>> Thank you very much. You also have an

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agenda for this evening. Is there a

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motion to approve the agenda?

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> It's been moved and seconded. Is there

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any discussion or debate?

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>> Any opposed? Same sign.

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>> Thank you very much.

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>> Um, as far as my report goes, I do not

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have any proclamations this evening. Are

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there any uh board, committee, or

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personnel appointments there? There are

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and there are no commit board,

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committee, or personnel appointments.

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agencies, or commissions this evening?

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information. I just want to uh thank and

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congratulate uh administrator Pierce and

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her team on an outstanding effort that

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they did with the Labor Day. Having to

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do that so quickly behind um the first

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Friday and so many other events that we

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have coming up, I just was really proud.

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national organizations have been forcing

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consolidations. So, for example, the AFL

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CIO in Danville, which has run the Labor

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Day parade for so long, was forced into

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a um combination with Champagne. Well,

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when we talked to the Champagne folks,

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on our parade." And uh we said, "We

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can't let this not happen here in

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Danville, especially with it being our

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90th anniversary." So, I just want to

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appreciate I really appreciate you and

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your team for stepping up. Thank you to

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everyone who participated in the parade.

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Um it was our first time, so we're still

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learning. There were a few little kinks,

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but I think overall it was a great day

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for Danville. So, just uh administrator,

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thank you and congratulations to you and

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your team. [applause]

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We also had a great time at the First

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Friday event and just want to remind

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everyone every first Friday from uh

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usually around 5 to 8 o'clock we have

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something that's free or lowcost

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downtown for everyone to come and enjoy.

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So, please come out and join us. Uh this

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next month we have a progressive dinner.

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I believe you do need to register for

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that one ahead of time and there is a

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little bit of cost but it's going to be

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a good evening uh with food with meals

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and entertainment at different places

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around downtown. So madam clerk at this

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time do we have any petitions commun

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also I'm sorry I forgot we also

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dedicated uh Garfield Park yesterday and

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that was a great day a long a long time

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coming. It was so wonderful to see so

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many of you out there and see so many

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kids and enjoying the park. I mean,

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there were probably a couple hundred

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kids there enjoying themselves and

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families. So, want to thank again public

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works and for all their efforts and

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leadership there. Uh, I did forget one

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person that I should have mentioned

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expressly and that was Kaylee Sanchez,

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our grants administrator. Uh, she went

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back and forth and got us a heck of a

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deal on the playground equipment. So,

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uh, really appreciate her leadership

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there.

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>> Madam Clerk, at this time, do we have

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any petitions, communications, and

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audience comments?

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>> We do. When I call your name, please

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come to the podium. You'll have three

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minutes to speak. We have Pastor Ken

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McCrae.

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» Good evening everyone to

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the mayor and all the city council.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> I I'm standing to share with you, it has

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been placed upon my heart to initiate in

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collaboration with others a meritorial

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forum

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is going to be launched on November the

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5th at 6 PM at the Fiser Theater.

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I've spoken to each one of the current

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candidates this running minus one and

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each one has consented to participate

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after October the 21st. We'll know

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exactly who's present and who to work

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with in regards to this meritorial

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forum. Some people call it a debate. I

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do my level best to stay away from that.

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We're going to operate by the Marcus of

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Greenberry rules. No rabbit punching, no

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hidden below the belt.

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It's going to be done with decorum

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professionalism

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and it's going to be monitored properly.

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We're going to give space for the

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council and other city officials to

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suggest some questions that will be

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posed to the meritorial candidates. It

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also will be given a space and a room

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for the community, the citizens to

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generate some questions which will be

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vetted prior to being used. We are

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hoping that uh Chief Yates would have

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some muscle present in case somebody

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gets out of hand.

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That was meant to be funny. But

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in any case, uh we have spoken to some

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individuals and asked their

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participation and they have consented to

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do so. Again, I just want to reiterate

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it will be done with professionalism. It

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will be done with the quorum and it's an

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opportunity for the candidates to

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present their forum and present their

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vision

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so that we'll be able to make an

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intelligent decision about who's best

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suited to sit in that seat and then move

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it away from personality driven to

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performance driven. So I will feel any

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questions that anyone has in regards to

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that. I'm trusting that there will be

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participation and presence by everyone

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that is here so that we can make sure

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that it's done and executed with

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excellence. I'll feel any questions that

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anybody has.

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>> Pastor time again.

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>> I'm sorry.

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>> Date and time.

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>> November the 5th at 6 pm at the Fischer

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Theater.

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Thank you, Pastor M.

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>> Kendra Tillitson.

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» Hello everybody.

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Um, my name is Kendra Tilson. I'm the

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board president of Downtown Danville

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Incorporated, which are is our special

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service district for downtown. Um, pull

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this up here.

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Downtown Danville Incorporated uh

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supports the purchase of the property

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located at 33 Hazel Street to help

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address the need for additional parking

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in the downtown district. This

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acquisition would support continued

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downtown development by improving

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parking accessibility for businesses,

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residents, and visitors and community

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events. As downtown Danville continues

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to grow and attract new business

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investment, events, and visitors,

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adequate parking, adequate and

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accessible parking is essential to

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sustain that momentum. DDI believes that

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the property can provide a valuable

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long-term asset that strengthens the

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continued economic growth of downtown.

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>> Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

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>> PJ Bourne.

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» Good evening again. Um my name is PJ as

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you spoken of and I'd like to present to

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[snorts] the city council and our mayor

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some um [clears throat]

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signatures which has been noted

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according to the regulations

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um of 157

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uh 04 which talks about changing the

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name of the street. In um one and two it

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says the applicant shall present a

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petition signed by 66%

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of the owners of the property which

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abuts the street segment in question and

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the sign signature shall be verified. So

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I'd like to present um those signatures

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to the county to the city clerk actually

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to our mayor and let you all look at

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them and verify them. There are 80 of

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them here and I will get the other 200

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or more so that you all can look at

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them. I have been coming to the city

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council for almost two years and

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apparently I don't know if we have a

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deaf spirit in the atmosphere or what

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but according to the regulation 157.04

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the name change of the street should be

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no problem. As I have said for almost

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two years and I will continue to say

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there is no one on the street but me. I

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am on a dead in um Cottoac. I own that

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area. My house is the only one there.

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And I've also looked around and for the

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last I believe it's the 10mi radiance,

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there are other houses on the same area

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who also have their name as well, mayor.

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And so I am again and I will continue to

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come until this is complete. There is no

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reason whatsoever that would hinder me

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from having my street changed. And so I

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will continue to bring that to um the

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city council and to our mayor. And I

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would like the record to show that I'm

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going to pass out um 80 signatures from

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the city of Danville. And I have more

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than that on the change.org

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that will also present to the city of

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Danville. um so that we can get this

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clear and that we will remove all

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discrimination, all biases, all

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prejudice and we'll do just like the the

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uh pastor just prayed that we'll

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continue to do the right thing for the

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right people because we are a city that

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should not be divided. As I said before

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and I will continue to say there should

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not be a white Danville and there should

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not be a black Danville. It should just

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be a Danville where we all created equal

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as we have all spoken and have the

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prayers going forth. We also sit here

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and we shake our heads and that's true.

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But let us be about it. Let's be

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sincere. Let's be real. Let's be

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genuine. Let's not pretend like we're

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something that we're not. But let's

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treat each other correctly and right.

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Let's treat each other like Jesus want

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us to be treated, like we belong, like

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we're love, like we say, like we pray.

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And let's work together. And let's get

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this together. I see nothing wrong with

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my street being changed since I'm the

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only one there. And if you did it for

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Dr. Harding, you can do it for me. Thank

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you so much.

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Thank you, Mrs. B.

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>> Sorry, Brenda Brown.

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» Good evening again to the mayor, the

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council, and our corporation council.

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Again, I am here speaking on the regards

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to

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>> [sighs]

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>> uh the council considering to change the

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treasures position from elected to

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appointed. I beg and I plead you again

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to leave this as an elected position. As

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we all know and you've heard me speak

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and you all have read consent decree and

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all that went in with it. We've talked

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about the seven plaintiffs. Uh we've

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even mentioned that one of the

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plaintiffs would be willing to come to

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speak. Uh none of this um has come forth

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as far as that invitation, but I'd like

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to say that remember

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this wasn't just about

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what you're making at changing a

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position for the treasur because we see

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we have different opinions on that. But

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it was for

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equality

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for the city council that included

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ethnicity, races, gender. Again, we have

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now sitting we have women and I've said

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because of this consent decree, we have

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African-Americans. I don't know if we

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have any Hispanic or uh other um

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races or here that have sat on the

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council.

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But I do know

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that we need

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to recognize what this was set forth for

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and not just pick and choose what we

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want for for our own selfish reasons or

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veins or or whatever reason you have to

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change this position of the treasur from

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appointed

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uh from elected to appointed.

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It has served our city all these years

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uh since 1987

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and I do recognize you had one issue but

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now uh we have a treasure that's there

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and doing a great job and I believe if

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we continue with an elected treasure

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we'll continue to do well and so I beg

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of you remember that as we said our

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pledge of allegiance liberty and justice

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for all

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And that includes all of us regardless

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of our race or religion,

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our color of our skin,

552
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,440
where we live.

553
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,200
And I think we need to put this on the

554
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,039
back burner

555
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:34,880
and consider

556
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,880
what this consent decree was set forth

557
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720
when this change of government came

558
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,159
forth and that the treasur's position is

559
00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,240
included as an elected. It says the

560
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960
mayor and the treasur. Let's leave this

561
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,360
alone.

562
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,159
I beg you and I plead. Let's leave it

563
00:23:52,159 --> 00:23:54,880
alone. Don't Don't go through uh having

564
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,159
to do a lot of changing referendum. It's

565
00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:02,000
working for us. Thank you for your time.

566
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,230
>> Thank you, Mrs. Brown.

567
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:17,269
Karen Schult.

568
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,360
My name is Karen Schil. I've been here

569
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,400
before. Good evening to the mayor and

570
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,000
alder persons. This [clears throat]

571
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,600
evening, I want to ask you um to

572
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,360
consider doing more for the homeless in

573
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,880
Danville. There are now 70,000 people in

574
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,679
200 concentration camps in this country.

575
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:38,559
Most are not criminals and they were not

576
00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:40,159
here illegally until our government

577
00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:42,640
changed the rules. Last time this old

578
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,679
white lady was here, I brought a similar

579
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:47,360
concern and you said I had nothing to

580
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,520
worry about. Well, I haven't been

581
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,279
kidnapped, but my heart breaks and I am

582
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:56,080
sick with the brutality and cruelty of

583
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,320
those

584
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,000
who are kidnapping people. I'm sick when

585
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,600
I read of children appearing in court

586
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840
with no parent or advocate. And when

587
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,760
everyone in those detention camps are

588
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,720
suffering from filth, dirty water,

589
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,240
contaminated food, no health care,

590
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,840
and torture. People are dying. And these

591
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,760
are people with families and friends and

592
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,159
attorneys who can advocate for them. If

593
00:25:22,159 --> 00:25:25,039
the homeless are snatched up, there is

594
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,840
often no one to advocate for them. We

595
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,440
already have no due process in those

596
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,000
camps which are privately run. What do

597
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000
you think will happen to those people?

598
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760
The Euings are doing a great job in

599
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,600
Danville, but as much [clears throat] as

600
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,400
they can, but a bed is not enough. We

601
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,400
need addiction and mental health

602
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,880
services. We need safety and food

603
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,279
education. We have the experts. I've

604
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:53,110
heard them right here in this room.

605
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,640
No, I am not safe and neither are you.

606
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,679
Government rhetoric right now includes

607
00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:02,159
incarcerating or deporting domestic

608
00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:04,640
terrorists. That's anybody who is

609
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,039
against the government or speaks

610
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,360
negatively. We're socialist, we're

611
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:10,880
communist,

612
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,880
whatever.

613
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,559
Censorship is real and it is here. And

614
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,919
if everyone is not safe, no one is safe.

615
00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:22,559
We elected you all to take care of all

616
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,640
the people of Danville, even the ones

617
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,120
who are unckempt. look a little weird,

618
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,279
act a little weird, and make a mess

619
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,480
living in the rough. We They are our

620
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,440
citizens also. Thank you.

621
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,159
>> Thank you, Mrs. Sch.

622
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:40,320
>> That's all I have. Mayor,

623
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,520
>> is there anyone else who wishes to

624
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,240
address the council?

625
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,320
>> All right. We do not have any zoning

626
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,320
petitions this evening. However, you do

627
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,640
have before you the payrolls of

628
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,960
September 4th and September 11th. Is

629
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,480
there a motion to approve those?

630
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,320
>> So moved. Second.

631
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,760
>> It's been moved and seconded. Is there

632
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,400
any discussion or debate?

633
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,760
>> Roll call vote, please.

634
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,279
>> Alderman Arns,

635
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:03,760
>> yes.

636
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:04,400
>> Cooper,

637
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:04,880
>> yes.

638
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,520
>> Butler,

639
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:05,919
>> yes.

640
00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:06,559
>> The Toyo,

641
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:06,960
>> yes.

642
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,840
>> Pashard, [snorts]

643
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,240
>> yes.

644
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,200
>> High Tower,

645
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:09,679
>> yes.

646
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:10,480
>> Johnson,

647
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:10,880
>> yes.

648
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,520
>> Okaane,

649
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:11,919
>> yes.

650
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:12,480
>> Poor,

651
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:12,960
>> yes.

652
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,600
>> Pickering,

653
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,000
>> yes.

654
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,640
>> Teague,

655
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,120
>> yes.

656
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:15,679
>> Lewig,

657
00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:16,159
>> yes.

658
00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:17,200
>> 12, yes.

659
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,279
The motion carries. You also

660
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,679
have before you the vouchers payable for

661
00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:24,559
September 8th and 15th of 2026. Is there

662
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,320
a motion to approve those?

663
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,120
>> So moved.

664
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,080
>> Second.

665
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,440
>> It's been moved and seconded. Is there

666
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,919
any discussion or debate?

667
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:33,840
>> Yes. Alderman T.

668
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,799
>> I have a question about

669
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,039
item number 103

670
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:41,440
on the September 15th vouchers. I think

671
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,400
that's page uh three.

672
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,279
It was for fire department lawnmowers.

673
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:55,679
And so I'm curious as to why the fire

674
00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:58,240
department would need lawnmowers and not

675
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,600
public works.

676
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,200
>> Yeah. The uh fire department does mow

677
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,480
its own grass and takes care of it

678
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,840
stations in general do our own cleaning

679
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,640
and everything like that. So

680
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,159
>> Okay. So public works has never taken

681
00:28:08,159 --> 00:28:09,360
care of fire. Uh

682
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,440
>> I don't never but not in recent history.

683
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Yeah.

684
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,720
>> Okay. Thank you.

685
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,840
>> Any further discussion or debate?

686
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,120
>> Roll call vote please.

687
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,240
>> Alderman Cooper.

688
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,600
>> Yes. Butler,

689
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,159
>> yes.

690
00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:22,880
>> Stoy,

691
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,279
>> yes.

692
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:24,080
>> Pashard,

693
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,559
>> yes.

694
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:25,360
>> High Totower,

695
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:25,840
>> yes.

696
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,640
>> Johnson,

697
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,120
>> yes.

698
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:27,760
>> Okaane,

699
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,320
>> yes.

700
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,720
>> For

701
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,440
>> yes.

702
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,320
>> Pickering,

703
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:30,880
>> yes.

704
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,679
>> Teague,

705
00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:32,559
>> yes.

706
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:33,200
>> Lewig,

707
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,080
>> yes.

708
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,720
>> Arns,

709
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,200
>> yes.

710
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,480
>> 12, yes.

711
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320
The motion carries. At this

712
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,520
time, I'll receive our public works

713
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,799
committee report. Chairman Po.

714
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:43,440
>> Thank you, Mayor. 11A is an ordinance

715
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,919
approving the acquisition of real estate

716
00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:49,919
at 1703 E4E for economic development. M

717
00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:51,039
dispense read and ask for your approval.

718
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:52,640
We need a second. [clears throat]

719
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,240
>> Second

720
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,679
Cooper.

721
00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:58,559
>> I guess I should go to Logan

722
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:02,399
the solar panels and back. I'm assume

723
00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:04,240
we're taking them with us.

724
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,960
>> And what's the plan?

725
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,440
>> That's correct.

726
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,360
>> And what's the plans for them?

727
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,080
>> Yeah. So in front of you, I've uh placed

728
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,919
a handout that provides a a brief

729
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,000
summary of all the information that we

730
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,000
are able to obtain um by either uh

731
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,120
Pepsico or Amaran and a little bit of

732
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,200
pro proono help from third party

733
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,960
consultants.

734
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,120
And um essentially what I wanted to show

735
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,080
here was um what the current market rate

736
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,880
for on peak hours or while the sun is

737
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,720
shining um because there is a different

738
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720
rate for that for when it's dark out

739
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880
which it's substantially higher. Um and

740
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,559
I wanted to kind of reflect the the

741
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,200
revenue versus liabilities. Um and

742
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,360
essentially we we came up with a really

743
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840
conservative num number of an estimated

744
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,679
annual revenue based on current rates

745
00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:54,080
and power production from the from the

746
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,000
panels. And that's um 85% so very

747
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200
conservative. That's roughly $94,000

748
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,559
annually. And we're expecting 28 more

749
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:06,320
years of life expectancy out of these

750
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,760
panels. So um what we understand in

751
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,679
terms of liabilities

752
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:16,960
is um there's inverters on site probably

753
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,720
I'll give you a we don't exactly know

754
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,799
the exact number because they won't uh

755
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:22,640
we can't get on the property to assess

756
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960
them at this time. 15 to 30 inverters

757
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,120
roughly at um $10,000 um replacement

758
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,600
every 10 to 12 years. So that is about

759
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,679
the only liability that comes with these

760
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:36,240
solar sites other than if a panel gets

761
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,600
damaged randomly. Um other than that uh

762
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,840
we're projecting roughly over the life

763
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,159
of the panels uh $2.6 million of revenue

764
00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:48,640
generated not subtracting out any

765
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,640
maintenance expenses.

766
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,159
So, are we putting that in a special

767
00:30:52,159 --> 00:30:53,520
fund or what are we doing with that?

768
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,200
>> Yeah, the next public works and city

769
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,320
council meeting uh next month we will um

770
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,480
have a fund um to have this allocated to

771
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,600
for long long-standing maintenance.

772
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,200
>> Has anybody been biting on this

773
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,120
property? Um, we actually have received

774
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,480
a big helping hand from Norfolk Southern

775
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,640
since there is a rail leg on this

776
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960
property and they are going to assist us

777
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,600
on nationally marketing this. Um, we

778
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,360
have one major obstacle to overcome

779
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,799
first which we believe there is a

780
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,399
revenue source coming which is the flood

781
00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:27,840
plane that splits the heatcraft and

782
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Quaker site.

783
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,159
>> Okay, good

784
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:33,360
arms.

785
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200
>> Couple questions follow up. I did speak

786
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,679
with uh Mr. Kron. Uh, regarding some of

787
00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:39,840
the other questions regarding these

788
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,519
particular panels, are they currently

789
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:43,440
hooked up to the grid and are they

790
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,200
producing for the grid?

791
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,760
>> Yes, it is our intent come uh property

792
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,519
closing that the account will just get

793
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:50,960
flipped over to the city of Danville and

794
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,880
it will be uh producing income.

795
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120
>> Okay. So, Amaran is satisfied or has

796
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,919
approved any switch gear, any controls.

797
00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:00,159
>> Yeah, the switch gear is on site and we

798
00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:01,519
had a big meeting with them and they

799
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:02,640
feel comfortable with that.

800
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,720
>> Okay. And then uh second question

801
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,640
followup would be is there an estimate

802
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,480
for what it will cost to remove and

803
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,720
dispose of the solar panels at the end

804
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,919
of their life?

805
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:13,519
>> Yeah, that was where the proono work

806
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:15,440
from the third party came in. Um the

807
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,600
decommissioning at current rates could

808
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,919
roughly be anywhere between 300,000 to

809
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:23,750
half a million dollars.

810
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,320
» Thank you.

811
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,159
>> Okay,

812
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:27,679
D.

813
00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:30,799
>> The contract referred to environmental

814
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,320
testing reports. So, have there been any

815
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,919
reports provided or requested

816
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:40,960
um concerning uh the soil and

817
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,279
particularly in the spot where the solar

818
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:44,159
panels are?

819
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:45,200
>> Yeah. [clears throat]

820
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200
Um so, yes, the city of Danville

821
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,760
performed um their own in-house phase

822
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240
one environmental study on this

823
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,799
property. Um no soil borings were

824
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,440
completed. Um we do oftentimes take the

825
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,960
guidance of that phase one report from

826
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,600
the consultant to um assess a threat

827
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320
level. They never will say there's no no

828
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,559
threat of environmental contamination,

829
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,640
but there wasn't a lot of concern. They

830
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,159
understand there was a manufacturing

831
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:11,679
company here and they they identified

832
00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:16,320
that. Um other than going out and and truly spending six figures and

833
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,159
drilling, you know, every 10 15 feet. Um

834
00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:22,080
the unknown is there, but it is our

835
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,240
intent to make this more marketable. um

836
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,519
once acquired to uh do a a limited base

837
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:32,720
soil boring essentially. Um, so it's responsible with taxpayer dollars,

838
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
but it should paint a whole picture of

839
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,399
what the soil types are like. But our

840
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:38,640
consultant, while they can't guarantee

841
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,360
there is no contamination, they had a a

842
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,960
high confidence level that there

843
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,000
wouldn't be

844
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,480
>> percentage high, please. If if there was

845
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,760
one provided,

846
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,399
>> yeah, that was no, they cannot. Um,

847
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:56,480
yeah. And if there is contamination on

848
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,240
the site, what would be the estimated

849
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,200
cost of remediation?

850
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,159
>> Yeah. Um, while I'm no expert, my

851
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,159
roughly seven years of experience doing

852
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,480
this, um, it's going to be truly

853
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,280
specific on the hot spots on site. So,

854
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,639
from it depends on what materials or

855
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,800
solvents, so how it gravitates around

856
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,480
the site, etc. Um, so I I can't give you

857
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,720
an answer on the magnitude of cost

858
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:31,919
without knowing exactly what it is and essentially how far what it may be

859
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,960
sprawls throughout the site.

860
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,879
>> Okay. There has the reason why I asked

861
00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:38,639
those specific questions is because I

862
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,839
had had anecdotal

863
00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:45,200
conversations from former employees

864
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,320
pertaining to the possibility of dumping

865
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,399
in the site where the solar panels have

866
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:51,919
been placed.

867
00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:53,599
So,

868
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,679
um, the comments that were made to me

869
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,480
was, well, of course, Quaker wants the

870
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,640
city to take the site for $500 because

871
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,760
then the remediation responsibility then

872
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,680
becomes the cities.

873
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,640
>> And so, um, that is the reason behind my

874
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,000
line of questioning. Obviously, no one

875
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,960
has provided me with evidence

876
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,520
um of anything, you know, that occurred,

877
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,280
but like I said, it was anecdotal and

878
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,640
they were former employees who brought

879
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,400
this uh to my attention.

880
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,079
>> Yeah. Um just to follow up to that, it's

881
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:28,079
obviously in my mind that that is a

882
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,800
hopefully minute possibility. Um but

883
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,880
like we're dealing with the flood plane,

884
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,760
if if something is identified, uh we

885
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,119
will obviously be very aggressive at

886
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,040
trying to uh seek funding to be

887
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,359
aggressive at remediation for that.

888
00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:42,960
And I know that in the past we have

889
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,760
received uh brownfield remediation

890
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,320
grants like we did for the corner of uh

891
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Fairchild and Vermillion. So I imagine

892
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,040
that if there are opportunities we will

893
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,599
go after those as well. But obviously

894
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:00,000
having that cost um and having that

895
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,160
potential issue

896
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,800
does present some additional challenges

897
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,240
beyond just the flood plane.

898
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,510
>> For sure.

899
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,280
Order Johnson.

900
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,760
>> I just for a point of clarification so

901
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,960
that we on the committee and the people

902
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,760
audience that are listening either here

903
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,000
or on the waves know exactly where 1703

904
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,960
Vorhees is so you can understand the

905
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,880
specific site we're talking about.

906
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Please.

907
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,880
>> Yeah, this is the former PepsiCo or

908
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,680
Quaker site on East Vorhees Street. It's

909
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,720
roughly 45 to 50 acres.

910
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,829
Thank you.

911
00:36:43,839 --> 00:36:44,480
» Yes.

912
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,599
>> Uh just I'm this is something that we've

913
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,040
been working towards for a couple of

914
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,880
years now. One of the biggest issues we

915
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,640
have in the city of Danville outside of

916
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,240
you know state regulations that make

917
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,200
business sometimes prohibitive uh here

918
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,640
when we're competing with neighboring

919
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,520
states particularly um is us having

920
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,160
either the space or the utilities. We

921
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,400
either have the land but not the

922
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,200
utilities. And utility companies usually

923
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,960
won't spend tens or hundreds of millions

924
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,119
of dollars on speculation. We might get

925
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,119
something there eventually, right? Or we

926
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:16,880
have utilities, but we don't have enough

927
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,800
land. You know, most of the places

928
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,560
logistics and manufacturing that are

929
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,520
building places are looking for 50 plus

930
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,680
acres, right? So, the good news about

931
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,240
this is that we already own um the the

932
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,480
former Heatcraft site next door. With

933
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,079
the addition of this property, that

934
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:33,880
would give us almost 100 acres

935
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,520
[clears throat] of land that has all the

936
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,520
utilities right there. It has also a

937
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,680
railroad spur which is why the railroad

938
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,839
is working interested in working with us

939
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:43,599
as well as a solar installation which

940
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:45,760
would make this highly marketable. So

941
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,760
both uh and not only that but the state

942
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,440
of Illinois is actually working with us

943
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,160
to bu to market this site as well. So,

944
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,359
um, my my, uh, my recommendation and my

945
00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:56,640
thought is that this is one of our

946
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,079
greatest prospects for economic

947
00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:59,200
development in the community of

948
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,079
Danville. And, uh, it's already a place

949
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:03,760
where there's been manufacturing for a

950
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,200
long time, so it wouldn't interfere with

951
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960
the people or the neighborhoods in any

952
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,119
way. So, it's my hope that we can make

953
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,470
this possible.

954
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,119
» All right. Uh, see no more roll call on

955
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,480
11 A, please.

956
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,680
>> Alderman Butler?

957
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,560
>> Yes.

958
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,359
>> Detoy? Yes. Pashard? Yes.

959
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:22,240
>> High Tower.

960
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:22,960
>> Yes.

961
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,839
>> Johnson.

962
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:24,480
>> Yes.

963
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,200
>> Okain.

964
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,920
>> Yes.

965
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,480
>> Poor.

966
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,440
>> Yes.

967
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,720
>> Teague.

968
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:29,280
>> Yes.

969
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,160
>> Pickering.

970
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,200
>> Yes.

971
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:31,920
>> Ledwig.

972
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,480
>> Yes.

973
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,200
>> Arn.

974
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:33,680
>> Yes.

975
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,320
>> Cooper.

976
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:34,880
>> Yes.

977
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,680
>> 12. Yes.

978
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,240
Thank you. 11B is an ordinance

979
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,000
approving the purchase of real estate at

980
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560
33 Hazel for community improvement and

981
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,280
amending the budget for fund 122 for

982
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,440
fiscal year 2627.

983
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,800
Move. Dispense read and ask for your

984
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,760
approval and need a second. Second

985
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,520
>> questions. Alman Ess

986
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,440
regarding the TIFF fund. What What is

987
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,200
our balance in the reserves? We're

988
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,760
pulling 50,000 out of reserves.

989
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,920
>> Yeah. Um

990
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,640
if you [clears throat] have other

991
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,000
questions,

992
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,280
>> yeah, if we have other questions, I'd

993
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,880
like to get an exact number for you. I

994
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,320
would ask for the comproller to please

995
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,400
pull that up for us.

996
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,760
>> I could give you a ballpark, but I want

997
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,640
to be exact.

998
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,390
>> Okay.

999
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960
And and for clarification, this is an

1000
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,800
empty parking lot if I'm correct at the

1001
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,560
southeast corner of North Street

1002
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,079
and

1003
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:33,280
Walnut or

1004
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,680
>> Hazel. Yeah.

1005
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,040
Figure out where

1006
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,880
>> 431,000.

1007
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,680
>> Okay. And

1008
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,760
recognizing that we have some large

1009
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,359
structures as we talked about at the

1010
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:47,680
last meeting to take down

1011
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,400
Um, if we were to move on those

1012
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,280
structures right now, would it be likely

1013
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,760
that it would take all of that to remove

1014
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,560
them?

1015
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,480
>> I would say that that's a safe bet.

1016
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,119
Yeah.

1017
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,760
>> Okay. How many buildings do we have

1018
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,000
downtown that are suffering detrimental

1019
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,760
damage due to the lack of roofs and lack

1020
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,560
of uh water protection from neighboring

1021
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,910
and adjoining structures?

1022
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,960
around five or six, I would say.

1023
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,520
>> And so, you know, as I indicated at that

1024
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,320
meeting, I I don't have a problem with

1025
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,480
if we want additional parking, let's

1026
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,720
look at additional parking. I I question

1027
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,960
whether the need is there, considering

1028
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,880
we just gave up some on street parking

1029
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,560
for other enhancements, which may be

1030
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,240
beneficial.

1031
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,160
But I have real concern that we have

1032
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,400
these buildings that are currently

1033
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,680
occupied with conditions based on some

1034
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,200
of the conversations I've had with

1035
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,760
property owners and others. Maybe they

1036
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,839
shouldn't be because they have black

1037
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:54,240
mold and some of the same experiences

1038
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,000
under the circumstances that we move

1039
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,200
people out of our own building for. And

1040
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,599
I don't feel it's responsible use of the

1041
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,560
dollars in the tiff to continue to buy

1042
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,800
more property that is not harming anyone

1043
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,119
right now while we have roofs that are

1044
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,200
actively leaking with building owners

1045
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,800
that have either abandoned the buildings

1046
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,720
or are unwilling to apply for tiff

1047
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,359
grants and use those funds in the

1048
00:41:17,359 --> 00:41:20,800
downtown area. So once again, I ask for

1049
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,160
what is our plan to tear down what with

1050
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,720
what money and who's going to put roofs

1051
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,480
on these buildings that the owners are

1052
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,040
refusing to do. You know, the city does

1053
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,720
have as a home ruled authority and the

1054
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,800
mayor's office does have certain

1055
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,560
authorities to protect the public health

1056
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,800
and safety from these types of

1057
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,200
conditions. And that has been exercised

1058
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200
in the past where someone has an awning

1059
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,800
getting ready to fall off, somebody has

1060
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,720
a sidewall getting ready to fall off.

1061
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,160
There have been circumstances where the

1062
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,920
city had to step in, spend its money,

1063
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,440
place a lean on the property, and then

1064
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
pursue the lean. And I guess my question

1065
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,440
is, how long are we going to let these

1066
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,240
roofs continue to destroy buildings next

1067
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,160
to them where some of these people have

1068
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,680
actually put new roofs on their own

1069
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,480
buildings trying to solve the problem?

1070
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,800
And so once again, we need a plan for

1071
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,480
how is that half a million dollars in

1072
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,560
reserve going to be spent and how is it

1073
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,920
going to best benefit the people that

1074
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,680
have already invested their own personal

1075
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,240
dollars in their buildings downtown?

1076
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,000
they're now being harmed because we're

1077
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,640
not able to effectively require the

1078
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,119
building owners adjacent to them. So, my

1079
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:24,960
suggestion is is that we should have a

1080
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,960
plan. If we don't think those buildings

1081
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,280
are salvageable, they need to go now

1082
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,960
before they continue to damage their

1083
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,200
adjoining neighbors. And I've seen no

1084
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,359
plan. We've had not a thing presented to

1085
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:37,839
the council. It was news to me that we

1086
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:39,440
had this many structures that are being

1087
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,760
damaged by their neighbors and they

1088
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,079
can't get a response or at least a

1089
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,640
satisfactory one to this point. So, I

1090
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,319
will be voting no on this and I would

1091
00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:50,640
encourage you to do the same until we

1092
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,960
all understand how much of a liability

1093
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,640
we have down there and what's going to

1094
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,760
have to be torn down. And two, how can

1095
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,760
we get roofs on these to protect the

1096
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,440
people who have already made significant

1097
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,920
investments in their own property? And

1098
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,969
that's my position. Thank you.

1099
00:43:05,969 --> 00:43:06,880
[clears throat and cough]

1100
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,640
I I appreciate DDI supporting this and I

1101
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,119
understand the purpose and that's not a

1102
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,359
bad thing if we didn't have what I

1103
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:18,000
consider to be a much higher priority in

1104
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,680
damaging buildings of people that are

1105
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,870
trying to run businesses. Thank you.

1106
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,040
» Anyone else? Mayor.

1107
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,359
>> Yes. Uh I understand Alderman Aron's

1108
00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:30,720
concern, but I would put the question

1109
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:32,560
back. Most of these buildings have been

1110
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,920
empty for longer than this

1111
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,079
administration has been in place. And in

1112
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:38,640
fact, when others oversaw public works,

1113
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,400
these buildings were in similar or worse

1114
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,560
conditions. And in fact, we have torn

1115
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,319
down many of the buildings that were

1116
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:46,079
allowed to rot under the previous

1117
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,640
administration that we owned that were

1118
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,200
causing similar problems for decades.

1119
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,960
So, what I would say is that we have

1120
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,200
taken a very aggressive stance in

1121
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,000
remediating the problems in downtown by

1122
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,079
getting rid of problematic buildings.

1123
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:01,760
However, as you well know, having

1124
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,960
overseen this for so long, $500,000 is

1125
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,720
not going to tear down even one of these

1126
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,599
buildings. So to say to suggest that all

1127
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,680
of a sudden that this 500 400 and some

1128
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,240
thousand dollars is a miracle cure to

1129
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,480
fix a problem that's been ongoing since,

1130
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,800
you know, previous administration and

1131
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,800
when, you know, public works oversaw it

1132
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,560
and was aware of these same problems in

1133
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,960
many of these same buildings, uh, I

1134
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,000
think is a little bit misleading. Um but absolutely we are going through the

1135
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,520
court process. We are prosecuting these

1136
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,920
folks where we can and uh getting the

1137
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,680
right to do something about the building

1138
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,160
so that we can move if we have to and

1139
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,839
the emergency powers that you meant it

1140
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:44,960
has to be an immediate threat to to life

1141
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,839
or public safety. So the things that we

1142
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:51,280
have addressed have been immed life or

1143
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,760
safety. For example, over on Fowler

1144
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Street, again, a long time, I mean, not

1145
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,960
Fowler Street, on Factory Street, a a

1146
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,319
known problem that the previous

1147
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:02,960
administration knew of for decades. It

1148
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,720
took literally the building start

1149
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:07,119
crumbling into the street when I became

1150
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,480
aware of it and then we did something

1151
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,319
about it. We got rid of it. So, what I

1152
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:11,599
would say is that this this

1153
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:13,040
administration has taken a very

1154
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,200
aggressive approach to addressing this

1155
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,440
issue that was not addressed for many

1156
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,520
decades, even though these conditions

1157
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,349
were known to exist.

1158
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:24,640
HS.

1159
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,960
>> Well, I I I think the relevant points

1160
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,800
here, mayor, is that people want to look

1161
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,040
forward. We can go back and revisit what

1162
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,720
was done over the last 30 years, but

1163
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:34,079
that doesn't do us any good in this

1164
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,240
community for the existing conditions we

1165
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:38,720
have today. And while you like to

1166
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,480
continue to refer to a prior

1167
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,319
administration, I was not in charge of

1168
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:44,480
that administration. I was simply a

1169
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,520
worker like all of they are, and I had

1170
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,920
no authority to vote on anything. But

1171
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,680
most importantly, I think the

1172
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,079
distinction between this administration,

1173
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:56,800
if you want to go there, and and those

1174
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,119
are is they were never handed $25

1175
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,599
million to use how they saw fit in their

1176
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,560
community. You chose to put $19 million

1177
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,440
into Garfield Park. I think five would

1178
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,000
have been adequate, maybe a little more,

1179
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,520
but we could have torn down every

1180
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,440
structure in this community that needs

1181
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920
torn down with the balance of that. So,

1182
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,760
let's focus on what we need to do going

1183
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,000
forward. Talking about what didn't get

1184
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,160
done before does not stop the water from

1185
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,960
leaking in on the neighbors roofs. And

1186
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,760
so let's focus on where we need to go

1187
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,560
forward. And going forward means these

1188
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,160
things aren't going away. Yes, there

1189
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,680
would have there's a lot of things we

1190
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,280
can all sit and talk about what we wish

1191
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,560
we could have, should have, and would

1192
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,400
have done had we had $25 million, but we

1193
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480
didn't have those choices. We had

1194
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,319
council members like yourself that voted

1195
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:46,400
against every fee increase regardless of

1196
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,359
what it was used for. And so what we're

1197
00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:51,040
dealing with today is what we need to

1198
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,240
deal with today. And that is we have

1199
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:57,440
building owners in their downtown area

1200
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,960
and we're waiting for the courts to

1201
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,880
solve the problem. And all the courts

1202
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,200
will do is require the owner to do it.

1203
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,720
And if they choose not to do it, they

1204
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,319
can still walk away. That's why we're

1205
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:08,319
tearing everything down. That's the way

1206
00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:10,720
it is in America. You can walk away from

1207
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,440
property. But we need to decide which

1208
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,119
ones are salvageable, which ones are

1209
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,200
not. So, as people are coming into the

1210
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,800
downtown area, they're not buying a

1211
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,480
property that they find out next door.

1212
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,000
Well, the city knows it's bad, but

1213
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,119
they're not going to do anything about

1214
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:26,000
it. So, let's not go back and forth on

1215
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,160
that. Let's figure out what is the plan

1216
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,000
for Danville. How are we going to do for

1217
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,319
these structures? And how are we going

1218
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:35,359
to stop these folks from being damaged

1219
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:37,200
from things that are going on today, not

1220
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,520
10 years ago? Thank you. Okay.

1221
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,240
>> I would just I would also just add that

1222
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:46,640
uh $25 million 18 million of ARPA was 19

1223
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,160
million of ARPA was not spent in

1224
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,280
Garfield Park. Um you've forgotten about

1225
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,680
you all put together a master plan for

1226
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,160
storm water management. We actually have

1227
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,720
completed seven of the 10 worst ma

1228
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,359
problems of storm water management in

1229
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:04,000
there with ARPA money. We also bought

1230
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,520
new fire uh trucks. We also did a lot of

1231
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,800
other things. uh in the community

1232
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,560
with that money. So, let's just make

1233
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,560
sure that we're honest about what was

1234
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,079
used with that. Also, we need to make

1235
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:17,920
sure that we're honest about the fact

1236
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,160
that you know that when you de demolish

1237
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,599
one more than a certain number of

1238
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,119
properties in area that there are

1239
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,440
additional criteria, additional steps

1240
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,440
that you have to take. And if you take

1241
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,040
those additional steps, then you have to

1242
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,359
spend much more money. So the cost of

1243
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:33,440
demolition, let's say we did exactly

1244
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,119
what you said and we demolished every

1245
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,119
bad structure in Danville, we would have

1246
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,800
paid three times more for each one of

1247
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,240
those structures to do it. So we would

1248
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:41,839
not have been able to get quite as far

1249
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:46,549
as as you supposed.

1250
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,193
» Okay. Is this about the resolution?

1251
00:48:49,193 --> 00:48:49,440
[laughter]

1252
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,240
>> Yes, it is.

1253
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,240
>> Okay.

1254
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:56,790
Um,

1255
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,280
in my thinking about the resolution, uh,

1256
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,230
I take

1257
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,839
the influence of DDI and their decision

1258
00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:11,119
as a body, um, to have come to have the

1259
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:13,119
president come forth and provide their

1260
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:16,720
support for this um, very very heavily.

1261
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:19,440
Um especially considering I know that

1262
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,040
some of the business owners who are

1263
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,920
directly impacted by some of the issues

1264
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,359
that are happening in adjoining

1265
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:31,200
businesses are also members and voting

1266
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,440
members or board members for DDI.

1267
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
I like to think the two things can be

1268
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,200
true at the same time. you can deal with

1269
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,119
the issues of problems that we have and

1270
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,480
also at the same time do the things that

1271
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,480
promote growth.

1272
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,599
The fact that DDI has come forth and

1273
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:56,160
said we support this because it's going

1274
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:01,599
to help grow downtown to me um is a very

1275
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:03,920
strong

1276
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,319
influence on how I will vote on this.

1277
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:08,319
And I do take into consideration that we

1278
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:10,160
do have a number of b uh buildings

1279
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,640
downtown that need to be demolished. Um

1280
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,119
and if DDI was opposed to this, then I

1281
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:16,559
would say that I would be opposed to

1282
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,280
this because the people who are on the

1283
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,520
board of DDI are also the people who are

1284
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,280
paying additional uh taxes for that

1285
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,400
special service area and and how that

1286
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,920
money is being used. So,

1287
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,960
I do believe we have to address the the

1288
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,400
buildings that need to be demolished. I

1289
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,000
would love to see a plan. I am in

1290
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,839
agreement on that cuz we've not really

1291
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:44,400
heard anything about the issues with the

1292
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,480
buildings downtown and whatnot, but that

1293
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,200
should not stop the growth that we need

1294
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,200
to have downtown, particularly because

1295
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,119
our organization DDI has said that they

1296
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:59,920
want this. For that reason, um, I plan

1297
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,319
to vote yes. Um, and it is heavily

1298
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:04,720
influenced by, uh, DDI's decision to

1299
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,990
support it.

1300
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,839
» Just as a point of clarification, it's a

1301
00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:11,760
parking lot today. Our plan is to keep

1302
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,280
it a parking lot. No change in status,

1303
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,839
no benefit that isn't there today. Thank

1304
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:19,680
you.

1305
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,760
>> Well, it is a private parking lot today

1306
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,760
and is actually closed off from parking.

1307
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,440
So, I think the fact that the city is

1308
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,680
acquiring it actually gives us the

1309
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,160
opportunity to o reopen it for parking

1310
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,240
because you cannot park on that lot

1311
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,240
today.

1312
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,400
Alderman Teague, I also might add that

1313
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,240
uh you know, one of the things DDI has

1314
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,319
asked for is additional parking. Our

1315
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:42,319
goal would be right now we have parking,

1316
00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:44,160
we have paid parking by the building

1317
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,240
owners in in the I can't remember, maybe

1318
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,960
it's the G-OT immediately behind in

1319
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,359
between uh Vermillion Street and Hazel

1320
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:54,160
Street. So, our goal is to move the paid

1321
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,960
parking out to this new lot that we're

1322
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,720
going to acquire and then to have free

1323
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,599
parking or, you know, available parking

1324
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,000
to the public right there adjoining the

1325
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,160
businesses in that first in that block.

1326
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,040
also with a goal of using of having the

1327
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,599
food truck court there near nearby soon.

1328
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:13,839
I think that will substantially bring

1329
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:17,359
additional um folks downtown to park and

1330
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:18,640
they're going to need places so they can

1331
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,960
go and buy their food and enjoy enjoy

1332
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,040
themselves.

1333
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,880
>> Follow-up question based on what you

1334
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,880
just said, does that mean that we will

1335
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,880
have limitations on the time frame for

1336
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,160
parking? Because one of the issues that

1337
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,079
we have downtown is that you can't be

1338
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:33,680
downtown for more than two hours without

1339
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,520
moving your car because you might get a

1340
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,240
ticket.

1341
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,680
>> That's actually not an issue. We have

1342
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,040
we've we've uh for over eight months now

1343
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,599
uh temporarily suspended that and we

1344
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,760
have not had any issues with it. DDI has

1345
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,359
been very

1346
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:51,040
>> there is no more there is no more um uh

1347
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,119
time limit for downtown

1348
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:55,280
>> tempor it's temporarily it's temporarily

1349
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,200
suspended continued. So then will it

1350
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,119
come back? Is the plan for it to come

1351
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:00,880
back at some point then? Because you

1352
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,599
can't say it's not an issue is those

1353
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:05,280
there's not a plan for it to come back.

1354
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,800
>> Not at this time unless we

1355
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,640
>> So then all of the sign this have the

1356
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:09,920
signs been taken down?

1357
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,119
>> They have not because it's been

1358
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:13,440
temporary. I I have the authority to to

1359
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,359
do so for a limited period of time. If

1360
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:17,440
we were to change that totally, I would

1361
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,200
need to bring it to you as a council.

1362
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,599
>> How would this Okay. This is the first

1363
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,119
that I've heard of of that because I

1364
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:24,400
know I've gotten tickets downtown

1365
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,240
previously and I've avoided parking in

1366
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,640
certain spots. As a matter of fact, I've

1367
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,359
parked I went to a meeting actually with

1368
00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:33,680
DDI and parked far away because I

1369
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,359
thought I was going to get a ticket or I

1370
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:36,559
thought I was going to be there for more

1371
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:38,160
than two hours. So, I walked further

1372
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,680
than I needed to and it wasn't that long

1373
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,880
ago. It was maybe a couple of months

1374
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,200
ago. So, this is news to me and probably

1375
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,280
news to many of the citizens. So, I feel

1376
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680
like we can't say that we have a parking

1377
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,960
issue and then we're going to provide

1378
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,319
free parking, but it's not going to be

1379
00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:52,160
free parking and we might not make it

1380
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,319
free later, but it's free right now. I

1381
00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:55,680
think we need to be able to say it's

1382
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,880
either going to be this or it's going to

1383
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,800
be that. If it's going to be paid, then

1384
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,079
it's going to be paid and people should

1385
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,240
know that all the signage downtown says

1386
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,920
that that's what's required. If that's

1387
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,280
not the case, we could take the signs

1388
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,040
down and then if we need to put it back,

1389
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,559
we can put them back later. But right

1390
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:10,000
now, it's confusing. But that's neither

1391
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,599
here nor there as it relates to this.

1392
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:14,720
is about acquiring a lot to provide

1393
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,640
for parking that is sorely needed

1394
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,800
downtown. And I think that the downtown

1395
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,400
businesses would love for us to be able

1396
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,359
to have the signage down because

1397
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:25,200
not having parking keeps people from

1398
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,880
coming downtown.

1399
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,960
>> They had they had previously been in

1400
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,480
agreement with us that while we were

1401
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,480
doing a trial basis to see how it would

1402
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,319
impact tra traffic patterns that we

1403
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:36,319
would leave them up in case it were were

1404
00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:38,400
to return. So far we have not had a need

1405
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,359
of that. But that was that was actually

1406
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:43,680
a mutual agreement with DDI.

1407
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,000
>> That's understandable. But the DDI

1408
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,119
people aren't the people who are

1409
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:49,119
actually patronizing their businesses.

1410
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:50,720
So I think that those of us who actually

1411
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,960
want to come downtown and shop might

1412
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,960
would love to be able to know that we

1413
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,559
won't have to worry about tickets or any

1414
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:01,119
of that any of those things in act in

1415
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:03,520
order to uh patronize the businesses

1416
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:08,390
that are our downtown.

1417
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,520
» Okay.

1418
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,319
Roll call on 11B.

1419
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:13,760
>> Alderman DeToy.

1420
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:14,559
>> Yes.

1421
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:15,680
>> Pashard.

1422
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,240
>> Yes.

1423
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:17,280
>> High Tower.

1424
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,240
>> Yeah.

1425
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,200
>> Johnson.

1426
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,079
>> Yes.

1427
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:21,200
>> Okaane.

1428
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,920
>> Yes.

1429
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,559
>> Poor.

1430
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:23,359
>> Yes.

1431
00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:24,160
>> Pickering.

1432
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:24,800
>> Yes.

1433
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,599
>> Teague.

1434
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:26,400
>> Yes.

1435
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,119
>> Lewig.

1436
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:27,920
>> Yes.

1437
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:28,720
>> Arn.

1438
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:29,520
>> No.

1439
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,319
>> Cooper.

1440
00:55:30,319 --> 00:55:31,440
>> Yes.

1441
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,319
>> Butler.

1442
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:33,200
>> Yes.

1443
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,079
>> 11. Yes.

1444
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:37,119
Thank you. 11 C is a resolution

1445
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:38,960
approving a change order to bid number

1446
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,200
795 2026 Cape Seal program. Move read

1447
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,960
and ask your approval. Need a second.

1448
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,880
>> Second.

1449
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,520
>> Questions.

1450
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,119
Seeing none. Roll call.

1451
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:53,440
>> Alderman Pashard.

1452
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,160
>> Yes.

1453
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,119
>> High Tower.

1454
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:55,599
>> Yes.

1455
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:56,400
>> Johnson.

1456
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:56,799
>> Yes.

1457
00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:57,520
>> Okay.

1458
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,000
>> Yes.

1459
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,559
>> Poor.

1460
00:55:58,559 --> 00:55:59,040
>> Yes.

1461
00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:59,920
>> Pickering.

1462
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:00,400
>> Yes.

1463
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,280
>> Teague.

1464
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:01,760
>> Yes. [snorts]

1465
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,400
>> Lewig.

1466
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,040
>> Yes.

1467
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:03,760
>> Arn.

1468
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,160
>> Yes.

1469
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,359
>> Cooper. Yes.

1470
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:06,000
>> Butler.

1471
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:06,480
>> Yes.

1472
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,200
>> Doy.

1473
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,760
>> Yes.

1474
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,640
>> 12. Yes.

1475
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,440
Thank you. 11D is a resolution

1476
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,280
awarding a contract for phase 1

1477
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,680
preliminary engineering services for

1478
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,000
Seminary Street and Bowman Avenue VRU

1479
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,240
improvements and authorizing a budget

1480
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,400
amendment. Move to Spence Reed and ask

1481
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,559
for approval.

1482
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:25,359
Need a second.

1483
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:28,160
>> Second. [laughter]

1484
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,400
>> Alman Arms. I know.

1485
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,720
If I read the scope of of work

1486
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:39,200
correctly, is it stops at Bowman? So the

1487
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,920
section of seminary from Bowman to

1488
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,000
Griffin will not be receiving a sidewalk

1489
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,920
as part of this.

1490
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,314
>> Seminary from Bowman to Griffin. Yes.

1491
00:56:49,314 --> 00:56:50,400
[clears throat] Yes. It's essentially

1492
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,319
seminary from Vermillion to the Bowman

1493
00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:53,920
intersection, including improvements at

1494
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,280
the intersection itself.

1495
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,000
>> Okay. So we're replacing existing with

1496
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,760
either a shared use or whatever is

1497
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,440
appropriate. Correct. But the section

1498
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,880
that's been talked about for a while

1499
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,960
that remains without a sidewalk, that's

1500
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,559
not part of this scope.

1501
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:07,200
>> Correct.

1502
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,839
>> Okay. Thank you,

1503
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:12,160
>> T.

1504
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,720
I was reading the resolution

1505
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:19,280
and I'm not sure if I understand it

1506
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,760
correctly or not. So, I'm really asking

1507
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,599
questions for points of clarity. Um the

1508
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:28,559
grant covers

1509
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,040
the later phases but not does not cover

1510
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,880
phase one. And so this is for us to pay

1511
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,319
for phase one.

1512
00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:37,520
>> Correct.

1513
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:42,549
>> Um and then

1514
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:46,640
was this already budgeted or is this

1515
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,559
are we moving money from someplace in

1516
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,960
order to cover uh this expense?

1517
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,760
>> Uh yes and no. Um, we had we were

1518
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,760
carrying money in this budget. This is

1519
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,400
something we we were carrying $600,000

1520
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,480
in there. It was not essentially

1521
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,040
predetermined for this. However, we got

1522
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,920
the grant award in recent years and this

1523
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,559
has come to fruition in the past year of

1524
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:10,480
we need to get phase one going to do

1525
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,040
this stuff. We have the $600,000 sitting

1526
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,920
here unassigned. Currently, it's 700 for

1527
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,599
phase one. So, we're amending to pull

1528
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:20,640
out of reserves to fund the remainder.

1529
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,400
>> Thank you. That's exactly the clarity I

1530
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,200
was looking for. Thank you.

1531
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,799
>> Other questions,

1532
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:28,799
>> chairman, just for clarification, um,

1533
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:30,480
you know, I've seen people, a lot of

1534
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,400
people misunderstand and focus on the

1535
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,079
wrong things. The great thing is, yes,

1536
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:35,680
we're going to be getting sidewalks so

1537
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,200
we can make sure that we keep our people

1538
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,599
safe when they're walking, getting kids

1539
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,119
getting to school, folks going to get

1540
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:42,400
their groceries, going to doctor's

1541
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,680
appointment. But the other important

1542
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,359
part is we're going to be able to redo

1543
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:48,480
the road. Uh I for many years from the

1544
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,319
time I was 18 until a couple years ago

1545
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:52,240
attended Community Church of God and for

1546
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,160
a long time that's on South Bowman

1547
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,480
across from Douglas Park. When you drive

1548
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,000
down there it's like you're riding on a

1549
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,359
wooden roller coaster, right? When

1550
00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:01,200
you're going up it kind of just shakes

1551
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,520
you. Same thing we have on Seminary

1552
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,440
Street, right? And so this is actually

1553
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,520
going to allow us to reconstruct those

1554
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,000
roads as well. So it's more than just

1555
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,839
sidewalks and safety for pedestrians.

1556
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:13,119
While that is important and we're

1557
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,119
thankful for it, it will also allow us

1558
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,280
to redo the roads in those areas which I

1559
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,040
think is is equally important for our

1560
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,069
citizens.

1561
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:25,200
» Okay. Um roll call please on 11D.

1562
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,480
>> Alderman High Tower.

1563
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,200
>> Yep.

1564
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,160
>> Johnson.

1565
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:28,720
>> Yes.

1566
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:29,440
>> Okaane.

1567
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,000
>> Yes.

1568
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:30,640
>> Poor.

1569
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,520
>> Yes.

1570
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,240
>> Pickering.

1571
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,880
>> Yes.

1572
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,760
>> Teague. [clears throat]

1573
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,319
>> Yes.

1574
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:35,040
>> Lewig.

1575
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,599
>> Yes.

1576
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:36,319
>> Arn.

1577
00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:37,040
>> No.

1578
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:37,760
>> Cooper.

1579
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,799
>> Yes.

1580
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:39,520
>> Butler.

1581
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,160
>> Yes.

1582
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,400
>> Doy. Yes. Pashard.

1583
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,920
>> Yes.

1584
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,799
>> 11. Yes.

1585
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:48,240
Thank you. 11E is a resolution

1586
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,160
approving the purchase of a rear loader

1587
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,480
refuge truck for the city of Danville.

1588
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,680
Move to dispense three and ask for

1589
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:54,960
approval. Need a second.

1590
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,119
>> Second,

1591
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:59,680
>> questions.

1592
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:00,480
>> Second.

1593
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:01,440
>> No questions.

1594
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,760
>> Oh, sorry. I didn't hear anybody say.

1595
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,000
>> Okay. Say none. Roll call, please.

1596
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000
>> Alderman Johnson.

1597
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Yes.

1598
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,520
>> Okain.

1599
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,079
>> Yes.

1600
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:12,720
>> Poor.

1601
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,280
>> Yes.

1602
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:13,839
>> Pickering.

1603
01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:14,319
>> Yes.

1604
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:15,200
>> Teague.

1605
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:15,680
>> Yes.

1606
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,319
>> Lewig.

1607
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:16,880
>> Yes.

1608
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:17,520
>> Arn.

1609
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,000
>> Yes.

1610
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,640
>> Cooper.

1611
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:19,119
>> Yes.

1612
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:19,760
>> Butler.

1613
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,240
>> Yes.

1614
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:20,960
>> Doy.

1615
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,359
>> Yes.

1616
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:22,319
>> Pashard.

1617
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:22,720
>> Yes.

1618
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,599
>> High Tower.

1619
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:24,160
>> Yes.

1620
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,040
>> 12. Yes.

1621
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,839
Thank you. 11F is a resolution

1622
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:29,680
authorizing application to ITEP for

1623
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,640
funding design and construct Bowman and

1624
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,319
construction of Bowman and Vory's

1625
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:36,319
pedestrian accommodations.

1626
01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:37,920
Uh move to Spencer. Ask for approve.

1627
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,119
Need a second. Second

1628
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:44,470
>> questions.

1629
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400
Seeing none, roll call, please.

1630
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,760
>> Alderman Okaane,

1631
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,480
>> yes.

1632
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,440
>> Core,

1633
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,400
>> yes.

1634
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,119
>> Pickering,

1635
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:51,839
>> yes.

1636
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:52,640
>> Teague,

1637
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,359
>> yes.

1638
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:54,079
>> Lewig,

1639
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:54,799
>> yes.

1640
01:00:54,799 --> 01:00:55,440
>> Arn,

1641
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,000
>> yes.

1642
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:56,720
>> Cooper, [clears throat]

1643
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:57,280
>> yes.

1644
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,079
>> Butler,

1645
01:00:58,079 --> 01:00:58,720
>> yes.

1646
01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,440
>> Detoy,

1647
01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,920
>> yes.

1648
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:00,799
>> Pashard,

1649
01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:01,359
>> yes.

1650
01:01:01,359 --> 01:01:02,240
>> High Totower,

1651
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:02,799
>> yes.

1652
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:03,760
>> Johnson,

1653
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,400
>> yes.

1654
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,280
>> 12, yes.

1655
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,000
Thank you.

1656
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,280
Okay. 11G, a resolution authorizing

1657
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,280
application to it to for funding to

1658
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,400
perform phase one and two engineering

1659
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,559
services and rightaway acquisition for

1660
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:20,880
the kickpoo rail trail extension into

1661
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,040
Danville. Dispenser read and ask for

1662
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,480
your approval. Need a second.

1663
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,359
>> Second.

1664
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:29,920
>> Anybody questions?

1665
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,559
>> Chairman.

1666
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,480
>> Yes. Oh,

1667
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,880
>> no question. Just a comment. This is

1668
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,319
absolutely important to get done and I'm

1669
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:40,799
glad to hear from all the parties that

1670
01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:43,760
helped continue to nurture this project

1671
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,000
and get it in here has tremendous

1672
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,839
ability to help our heights as well as

1673
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:50,079
other parts of our central community. So

1674
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:51,760
getting that trail into Danville is

1675
01:01:51,760 --> 01:02:00,150
critical going forward.

1676
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,680
» Okay.

1677
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,920
All right. Uh, any other comments,

1678
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,400
questions? Roll call, please.

1679
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,680
>> Alderman Pickering,

1680
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,400
>> yes.

1681
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:08,960
>> Teague,

1682
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:09,440
>> yes.

1683
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,079
>> Leadwick,

1684
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:10,480
>> yes.

1685
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,119
>> Arn,

1686
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:11,520
>> yes.

1687
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,160
>> Cooper,

1688
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:12,640
>> yes.

1689
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,280
>> Butler,

1690
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:13,680
>> yes.

1691
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,400
>> Doy,

1692
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:14,880
>> yes.

1693
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:15,680
>> Pashard,

1694
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,079
>> yes.

1695
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:16,880
>> High Tower,

1696
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:17,280
>> yes.

1697
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,079
>> Johnson,

1698
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:18,480
>> yes.

1699
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,200
>> Okaane,

1700
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,960
>> yes.

1701
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,960
>> 12. Yes.

1702
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,319
>> 11H. Items of information

1703
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:29,040
once we figure out the remote.

1704
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,119
>> Uh, Logan's got something really quick.

1705
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:35,040
>> Okay. Yeah, thank you for the reminder.

1706
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,920
Um,

1707
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,040
>> uh, little update on an emergency we had

1708
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,839
at Milican dry cleaner demolition and,

1709
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:49,030
uh, underground, uh, tank removal.

1710
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,280
» Uh, we hired consultants uh, to come in

1711
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,160
uh, remove remove the tanks on site in

1712
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,839
the last two weeks. I don't know if

1713
01:02:57,839 --> 01:02:59,440
anybody drove by and saw them sitting

1714
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:00,480
out on ground. There was only supposed

1715
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:01,760
to be four tanks sitting on the ground

1716
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,280
and if you drove by there was a

1717
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,280
significant amount more than that. Um

1718
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,319
four of them four tanks were registered

1719
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:10,799
with the with the state fire marshal and

1720
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:13,839
that is all we knew about. Um as the as

1721
01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:15,520
the contractor started digging around

1722
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,920
the site they doubled in and the amount

1723
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,599
of tanks that were underground. I laugh

1724
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:23,280
because it hurts. Um, so, um, I needed

1725
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,280
to let the city council know that

1726
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,280
essentially the original proposal I did

1727
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,799
not have to come to city council with,

1728
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:34,000
which was, um, $49,300

1729
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,280
and it it essentially doubled, um, with

1730
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,960
the tanks that need to be removed and

1731
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,680
then, uh, the required excavation of the

1732
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,440
potentially contaminated soils around

1733
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,280
them. It's a part of the um, underground

1734
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,160
storage tank removal process. Um so I am

1735
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,440
informing the city council that

1736
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,200
unfortunately

1737
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,359
um the increase of price was $45,615

1738
01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:58,000
uh dollars. The intent is to um fund

1739
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,839
that through Midtown TIF through

1740
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:02,240
property assembly um which fortunately

1741
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,000
that that fund has an operating budget

1742
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,480
that has um enough funds to cover this

1743
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:11,440
expense um to get this ready and down the road. But yeah, that that is

1744
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,880
what I needed to inform the city council

1745
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:18,230
of tonight.

1746
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,520
Alard, do you first?

1747
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,079
>> I just had a question uh regarding the

1748
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:24,000
Cape Seal program if we had a date when

1749
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,799
they're going to come back and do uh the

1750
01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:28,880
repair work

1751
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,559
on uh

1752
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,559
>> uh it's supposed to be I think it was

1753
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:33,920
two weeks from last time I talked to

1754
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,680
you. So, it's probably this week. I'd

1755
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,280
have to follow up and check with our

1756
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,319
project manager.

1757
01:04:38,319 --> 01:04:41,200
>> Thank you.

1758
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,559
the Midtown TIFF change. Does that need

1759
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:48,160
to come back come to us for a vote or uh

1760
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,359
No,

1761
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:52,799
>> I would seek to make sure with the

1762
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:54,720
comproller, but since it's emergency,

1763
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,160
would it have to come back?

1764
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:56,720
>> Um,

1765
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,680
>> doesn't matter. Yes. Yeah, I'll bring it

1766
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:00,079
back.

1767
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,079
>> Okay. So, it'll come to Will it come to

1768
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:04,240
public services or just as soon as you

1769
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,720
get it done? I'm just curious.

1770
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,160
>> Yeah, I can I can bring it to public

1771
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,400
services. That's no problem.

1772
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,280
>> Yeah.

1773
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,920
>> Okay. Anyone else?

1774
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,160
>> All right. [clears throat] Well, uh,

1775
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,640
today I bring you some exciting

1776
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,839
information. So, I've received a a

1777
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:25,839
number of questions from a number of you

1778
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:28,079
about, uh, just how the demolition

1779
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,000
ranking process works and the process

1780
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,760
that we've put together over the past

1781
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,160
few years. So, I just actually wanted to

1782
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,079
just really quickly run through this is

1783
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:37,599
very short. I won't take much of your

1784
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:40,000
time. uh but also just wanted to make

1785
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,680
sure that everyone was informed and I

1786
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,720
was able to uh express this out loud to

1787
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,119
everybody on how we do things. So the

1788
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,200
focus of this presentation just so we're

1789
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,160
clear is once we have the legal ability

1790
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,440
to tear down a house, what happens, how

1791
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,599
does it get ranked, uh and what's our

1792
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:00,640
process there. So uh leading up to that

1793
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,240
is more, you know, is more through the

1794
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,119
legal process, but uh but this is this

1795
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:08,000
is after that. So, um, and then just to

1796
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,839
be clear, too, this is just a snapshot

1797
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:13,520
right now of where we're at. Um, and

1798
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,079
we're working on taking a very holistic

1799
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:19,119
view of the entire demolition, uh,

1800
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,680
program that we run. Uh, and that was

1801
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,599
listed in our public works top 10, uh,

1802
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:26,720
within the business plan section. So uh

1803
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,520
with that uh you know we want to just

1804
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,440
make sure that uh when we look

1805
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,119
holistically we understand all of the

1806
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,200
assumptions that were taken in the past

1807
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,680
and where are we at now and where are we

1808
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,280
going in the future and where where are

1809
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,240
the trends going. Uh so all of that is

1810
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,240
being taken into consideration as we

1811
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,319
develop our business plan. Uh but this

1812
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,400
is a snapshot of where we're at now and

1813
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,240
how we uh how we do that with our uh

1814
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,039
with our process. So uh basically the

1815
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:57,280
goals that we started with the ranking

1816
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,160
process uh is making sure that we have

1817
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,839
an objective and transparent

1818
01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:04,240
decision-making process there. Uh we

1819
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,240
want to have that mindset of what we do

1820
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,240
for one we're willing to do for all and

1821
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,799
we want to be fair across the board. Uh

1822
01:07:10,799 --> 01:07:13,440
so we we want to take a look uh at

1823
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,920
things through that type of a lens. Uh

1824
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,680
and then we also want to make sure that

1825
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,200
hey we get the biggest bang for our

1826
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,359
buck. Uh we want to focus the limited

1827
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:23,920
resources on greatest impact. Um and

1828
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,559
then prioritizing public safety and then

1829
01:07:26,559 --> 01:07:28,079
supporting neighborhood stabilization

1830
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:30,480
and reinvestment. You'll see one of our

1831
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,359
ranking criteria is focused on the

1832
01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:35,359
stabilization of of healthy

1833
01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:38,640
neighborhoods and uh and trying to make

1834
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,880
sure that we are uh adding that into the

1835
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,799
weight as well. Uh and then just

1836
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:44,799
aligning with redevelopment goals uh

1837
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:47,520
which we'll get into here in a second.

1838
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,680
All right. So, uh, when are properties

1839
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,359
added to the list? This is just, uh,

1840
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:53,280
okay, this is how they they get put on

1841
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,599
the list. Either, uh, the city acquires

1842
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:58,480
the property, uh, or court demolition

1843
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,319
orders, uh, dangerous building

1844
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:03,359
determinations, owner consent, uh, with

1845
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:05,680
legal authority. Uh, those are those are

1846
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,839
a few avenues, uh, that things can get

1847
01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:10,160
added to the list. And, uh, those are

1848
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,520
case-byase basis, uh, most of the time.

1849
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,640
And, um, so let's see. The uh the

1850
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,560
biggest thing I wanted to note on this,

1851
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,640
if there is concern over where we're at

1852
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,080
on a property, I know that this is

1853
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,239
discussed pretty regularly. I get calls

1854
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:29,040
quite a bit. I know uh Council Parker

1855
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,199
does as well. Please continue to reach

1856
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:32,880
out, let us know, and we can let you

1857
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,799
know, you know, if a propertyy's made it

1858
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:36,560
to the list, if we're in process on

1859
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,880
something, um we're always able to

1860
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,960
answer those questions. So, okay. Okay.

1861
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,520
So, the scoring philosophy uh and these

1862
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,839
are a lot of what we uh we talked about

1863
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:48,319
earlier, but when we uh when we were

1864
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:49,679
putting this together, a biggest thing

1865
01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:52,080
that we wanted to talk about on this uh

1866
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,920
slide is I wanted to talk about the fact

1867
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,839
that we want to make sure that we are

1868
01:08:55,839 --> 01:08:57,600
taking into consideration what the

1869
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,239
impact is of a demolition of a property,

1870
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:02,960
not necessarily the time on the list. Uh

1871
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,839
I know that uh it may it may seem

1872
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:08,000
logical at first to just hey in the

1873
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,759
order they come in is the order we

1874
01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:11,839
demolish them but that could also push

1875
01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:14,080
some really really important properties

1876
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,040
to get out of the uh get get demol

1877
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,239
demolished um push those pretty far down

1878
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,920
the list. So uh all right so our

1879
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,480
evaluation and scoring categories these

1880
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:28,239
are the categories that we use and we

1881
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:30,080
score by and you'll see the scoring

1882
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,120
matrix on the next slide. Uh but we

1883
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,199
first look at safety risk. Uh what is

1884
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:38,239
the risk to you know residents uh people

1885
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:40,799
in the area? I think I always think of

1886
01:09:40,799 --> 01:09:42,080
you know kids playing in the

1887
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,279
neighborhood and wanted to make sure

1888
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,839
things are safe. Uh and then the

1889
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:47,679
neighborhood stabilization impact.

1890
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:50,239
That's that's what we basically call um

1891
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:54,560
we want to strengthen a neighborhood. If a neighborhood is completely healthy

1892
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,640
and uh and has an isolated blight uh

1893
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,199
instance, that receives a higher score

1894
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,560
than maybe a more uh saturated

1895
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,960
neighborhood with blight. Uh and then

1896
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,520
we've got the priority area designation.

1897
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,679
That's one of those like a targeted

1898
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:13,600
redevelopment area such as what we did

1899
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,480
in the Madison neighborhood. uh and we

1900
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,199
purposefully try not to share those uh

1901
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:23,600
too much publicly for obvious reasons of prices going up if we're trying to

1902
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,480
acquire properties for a uh a

1903
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:30,000
redevelopment. Uh and then arterial road

1904
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,280
visibility. Uh this is one that uh we

1905
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:38,480
actually have um added in as a uh an a

1906
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:40,719
score uh here in the last couple of

1907
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:42,960
years. This wasn't on it when we

1908
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,560
initially uh developed this. Uh but I

1909
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,880
will get into uh why that has been added

1910
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,679
here uh recently. Um and then fire

1911
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:54,800
damage obviously for one safety and and

1912
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,960
that but also the appearance of a fire

1913
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,199
structure is is a little bit uh um more

1914
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:03,520
impactful at times as well. So all

1915
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,360
right. So this is the scoring matrix. We

1916
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,080
do everything on a 20point scale. And

1917
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:16,719
what we did initially is we set up our uh categories with the uh point

1918
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:18,960
system and we sent out three of our

1919
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,040
different supervisors to run through the

1920
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,239
list and rank our properties. Uh those

1921
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:26,560
supervisors then came back and we input

1922
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,679
all of their scores into uh an Excel

1923
01:11:29,679 --> 01:11:32,400
sheet and compared their scores to see,

1924
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,320
hey, if we're looking subjectively,

1925
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,000
these are three people. All I did was

1926
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,320
give them the uh give them the

1927
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,159
description of what they're rating and

1928
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:41,920
then send them out. And we wanted to

1929
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,960
see, hey, how closely do they align? Uh

1930
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,600
and after a couple of tweaks uh and then

1931
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,400
redoing it, we we found a spot where we

1932
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,520
aligned pretty stinking close uh with

1933
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,600
each other as far as order of houses are

1934
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,840
concerned. Um, one of the big things

1935
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,840
that we had happen though is,

1936
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,360
uh, we had some houses that were pretty

1937
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,640
visible from our arterial roads. Uh,

1938
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,040
couple that I can give an example of,

1939
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:15,600
uh, would be on um on Hazel just just

1940
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,400
behind uh, like Royal Donut area. And as

1941
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,040
you're going to the uh as you're going

1942
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,000
to the high school, they were glaringly

1943
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,679
obvious right there in one of our main

1944
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:27,199
thoroughfairs. And you have a lot of

1945
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:28,560
visitors coming from out of town going

1946
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,480
to the high school and want to make sure

1947
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:33,280
that those are prioritized uh so that

1948
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,480
we're we have I guess our highly

1949
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:40,159
trafficked areas looking nice uh and

1950
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,600
putting on a good face there. So uh

1951
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,960
that's one of the bigger things that

1952
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,199
we've changed in the past. uh and um I

1953
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:50,800
guess in the last two years. Other than

1954
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,800
that, we've been pretty solid on on our

1955
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,520
rankings here as of late. So, all right.

1956
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,040
So, basically how we develop our

1957
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,280
priority score. We basically rank all

1958
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,600
those one to 20, add them all up. Uh the

1959
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,520
higher the score, the higher the

1960
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,000
priority. Uh if there's a tie, that is

1961
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,800
when we take into consideration time on

1962
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,600
list. So, if we've got four houses that

1963
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,640
are all ranked, uh, you know, an 86, the

1964
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,320
longer it's been on the list, the higher

1965
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,320
it goes. Uh, and then, uh, re-evaluation

1966
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,480
of scores. Uh, we're trying to get

1967
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:24,719
through the city, uh, twice a year just

1968
01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:28,800
to re-evaluate. Uh, so that's a way that

1969
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,679
things get repprioritized. The other is

1970
01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:33,920
complaint driven evaluation with just a

1971
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,320
windshield survey, honestly. Um, and I

1972
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,840
wanted to give an example, a specific

1973
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,480
example of this. uh Otterwoman Teague re

1974
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:42,480
had someone reach out to her and she she

1975
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:44,640
passed that concern along to us uh on

1976
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,280
John Street. Uh and so we did a

1977
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,239
windshield survey a couple of weeks ago,

1978
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:53,920
probably three weeks ago, and uh the

1979
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,400
house had uh in the time so we have

1980
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,159
pictures every time we go out. So we

1981
01:13:58,159 --> 01:13:59,760
have a picture of this what it did look

1982
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,120
like when we raided it. Uh and when our

1983
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,640
supervisor went out and uh assessed it,

1984
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,560
basically all the trusses had collapsed

1985
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,560
in and the house was uh structurally

1986
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,320
unstable. So that house got reranked and

1987
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,400
shifted way up the list to where we were

1988
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,640
getting it done in almost an emergency

1989
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,840
order at that point. Uh

1990
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,280
so uh the last slide here is just

1991
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,239
exceptions to our priority order. So

1992
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:29,840
there are there have been plenty of

1993
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,560
times where houses are um in grant

1994
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,120
eligible areas. Uh we want to make sure

1995
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,120
obviously if we're able to use uh

1996
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,679
outside funds uh rather than our own

1997
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:43,600
local funds, we want to do that as much

1998
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,239
as humanly possible. Uh and so that way

1999
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:48,320
we can stretch our local funds as far

2000
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,640
down the list as possible as well. So

2001
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,560
there have been times where uh whether

2002
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,960
we have grant funding or we are waiting

2003
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,040
on the grant funding, we'll pass by some

2004
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,840
of the houses uh so that we're able to

2005
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,080
uh stretch the dollar as far as we can.

2006
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,320
Uh and then uh obviously emergency

2007
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,400
demolitions if there's, you know, some

2008
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,360
major uh health and safety issue there

2009
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,080
and then active development areas such

2010
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,239
as what happened in the Madison

2011
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:17,040
neighborhood there. So um with that,

2012
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,280
that's kind of how we get our rankings.

2013
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,640
Uh, that's all I wanted to go through

2014
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,199
tonight is just kind of explain that.

2015
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:25,600
Um, I'm going to pass around some the

2016
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,239
SOP for it that coincides with this

2017
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:30,960
slideshow. Um, I'll do it now because I

2018
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,480
forgot to do it before I started. My

2019
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,280
apologies. And uh, that way you guys

2020
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,960
have something. What I would encourage

2021
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,520
is if you guys have any feedback uh on

2022
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,360
any of this, feel free to get get a hold

2023
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,679
of us. We are always looking to get

2024
01:15:43,679 --> 01:15:45,679
better. I know we can always get better.

2025
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:47,920
So, if you guys have any input on it,

2026
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,000
love to hear it. So, all right.

2027
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,640
Appreciate you.

2028
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,719
>> Thank you. Director Alman,

2029
01:15:52,719 --> 01:15:55,120
>> how many structures have been ranked to

2030
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,880
this point?

2031
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,560
>> Uh,

2032
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,920
what do you mean? I mean, I know how

2033
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,800
manyish are on the list right now, but

2034
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,159
>> Okay. What's that number?

2035
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,480
>> Uh, it's a little over 200, I believe.

2036
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:08,640
>> And and we believe that's probably a

2037
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,880
larger number.

2038
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,280
>> Uh,

2039
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,440
>> or are we suggesting there's only 200

2040
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,760
houses that still need to be demolished?

2041
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,480
No, I that's what we have. The list that

2042
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:20,239
we have is only what we have the legal

2043
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:22,159
authority to tear down at this moment.

2044
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:22,800
>> Okay.

2045
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,360
>> Yeah.

2046
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,280
>> Do we have an idea of what the full

2047
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,920
scope of the problem is yet? I asked

2048
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,520
this about a year ago.

2049
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,199
>> How many of them are out there waiting

2050
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:33,920
to get court approval? Yes. Or legal

2051
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:34,560
approval.

2052
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,760
>> So, that's within our kind of our uh

2053
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,040
demolition business plan that we're

2054
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,159
putting together. We're trying to get a

2055
01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:42,080
holistic view of that. That's not put

2056
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,199
together yet. So, we're in we're still

2057
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:46,640
in process on it. Yeah. Okay.

2058
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,159
>> I think a pretty good number could be

2059
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:51,760
generated by inprocess condemnations,

2060
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,080
right? Ward by ward.

2061
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,120
>> Yeah.

2062
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,400
>> There's a lot of ways you can get it.

2063
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,159
>> Yeah. Yeah.

2064
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:00,800
>> Thank you.

2065
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,040
>> Hold on. I'm writing down a question.

2066
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,560
>> I have a se several questions. Um first

2067
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,560
question is, is this just residential or

2068
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,320
is it residential and commercial?

2069
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,239
because I know the property on Factory

2070
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:14,640
Street that the mayor brought up. I if I

2071
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,000
recall, Alderman Okaine was uh bringing

2072
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,880
up that property for quite some time

2073
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,000
prior to uh prior to it becoming

2074
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,080
emergency status where it collapsed into

2075
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,480
the street. So, I'm just curious to know

2076
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:29,920
and I know that I have sent you some

2077
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,280
commercial properties in our ward as

2078
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,040
well. So, I'm just curious to know is it

2079
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,040
only residential or is it a mix of both?

2080
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,600
>> Yeah. So, so we do on on the list we do

2081
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,159
have some uh commercial properties. Now,

2082
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:41,520
obviously those are handled a little bit

2083
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,199
different uh and because you know the

2084
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:47,679
larger the commercial property is uh the

2085
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:49,760
more of an eye that we keep on things uh

2086
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,840
as time goes on and obviously funding

2087
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,320
sources are so much higher. So those

2088
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,640
don't really I guess fall into the

2089
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,239
consideration of just going straight

2090
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:01,440
down the list uh because of the the

2091
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:03,120
amount of funding it takes to demolish

2092
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,719
most of those. So,

2093
01:18:04,719 --> 01:18:08,560
>> and then um

2094
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:13,040
the the scoring process, this is me

2095
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,320
doing data stuff. Um

2096
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,840
you said that there are three people

2097
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,679
scoring. So, all properties go through.

2098
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:24,960
So that was our initial scoring is to to develop our our list to ensure that

2099
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,880
no matter who went out to to score

2100
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,880
something that we knew we were falling

2101
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,280
roughly in the same priority after that

2102
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,520
like our the demolition manager Dustin

2103
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,159
Brown basically goes through and uh and

2104
01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:39,360
associates scoring for each of the uh

2105
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:40,960
the

2106
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,760
properties.

2107
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,800
>> Okay. And then you said that properties

2108
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,679
get re-reed periodically. Was it every

2109
01:18:47,679 --> 01:18:50,960
six months? Yeah, that's our goal. Um I

2110
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,480
will be honest with you that is uh we

2111
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:56,239
probably missed that goal this past

2112
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:59,920
year. Um but uh that's kind of been an

2113
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:04,480
assigned goal uh that we're looking for a key performance indicator of that

2114
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:05,760
is just trying to get through those

2115
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,520
every six months to ensure that we're

2116
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,040
monitoring our houses.

2117
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,920
>> And then do they get rescored then at

2118
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,760
that re? when he goes around, that's

2119
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:18,159
what he'll do is he'll rescore those and it may end up shaking up the list a

2120
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:20,800
little bit. Now, if the list is uh if

2121
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,280
this system works properly, the hope

2122
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,800
would be that they don't really change

2123
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,920
order too much unless we've had a major

2124
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,080
um collapse or something such as what

2125
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,280
happened on John Street.

2126
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,640
>> But that would be the point of restoring

2127
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:33,360
then, right? Yeah.

2128
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,120
>> And then um

2129
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,880
>> will we get

2130
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,400
>> You haven't passed out the papers yet,

2131
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,400
so I'm going to remind you. And then

2132
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,199
will we get a copy of the presentation

2133
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:45,520
or is that included in what's on that?

2134
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,440
>> Basically the presentation is right off

2135
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,440
of that. There's more information on

2136
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:51,440
that than there is in the presentation

2137
01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:52,320
slides, but

2138
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,080
>> we'd be able to get that electronically.

2139
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,360
>> Yep. I can send that over.

2140
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:59,280
>> Thank you. I think

2141
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:00,239
>> I got a couple.

2142
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:01,679
>> I think that's all I got.

2143
01:20:01,679 --> 01:20:03,600
>> Do we got a dedicated crew that's going

2144
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,840
out there every week? Every day or every

2145
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,760
week tearing down houses?

2146
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,560
>> Yeah. So, we have a demolition uh

2147
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,320
operator that is constantly um working

2148
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,600
on houses. Uh I will say obviously

2149
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,040
there's times where the machine's down

2150
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,800
or something like that, but yes, we have

2151
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,040
a a crew dedicated to that.

2152
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,120
>> How far out

2153
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,520
is the city out on these things? I I

2154
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,560
talked to somebody in public works. They

2155
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,320
said it's about nine months out the

2156
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,960
house I had. But how far out is it? uh I

2157
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,239
wouldn't necessarily be able to give you

2158
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:39,920
a really accurate understanding, but if

2159
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,000
there's over 200 on the list and

2160
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,000
internally we can get two to three down

2161
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,640
in a week. Uh you know, now that being

2162
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,360
said, we also have we have a funding

2163
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,679
related uh things where we can contract

2164
01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:53,199
out more to get more done. And that's

2165
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:55,040
what we've been doing uh pretty

2166
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,679
prevalently here uh in the past few

2167
01:20:57,679 --> 01:20:59,120
years is just really trying to push to

2168
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,280
get as many down as we can as quickly as

2169
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,800
we can. So,

2170
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,520
>> if we've got a house and

2171
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,960
it's in a real nice neighborhood, it's

2172
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,800
been

2173
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,239
probably should have been on demolist

2174
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:14,880
three or four years ago. Can can we as

2175
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,120
an individual on this council pushed it

2176
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,640
up the list or not?

2177
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,159
>> So, uh I would uh say that if our

2178
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:24,480
scoring works correctly, it should end

2179
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,719
up towards the high end of the list as

2180
01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:29,360
soon as we have uh the authority to de

2181
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,760
demolish. if you want, maybe after the

2182
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:32,880
meeting or whatever, you can give me the

2183
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,199
address and I can check the status of

2184
01:21:35,199 --> 01:21:37,040
that uh tomorrow and find out where

2185
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,669
we're at with it.

2186
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:44,790
» So,

2187
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,920
how long

2188
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,679
could you say we have 200 that we have

2189
01:21:49,679 --> 01:21:51,040
the authority to demolish?

2190
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,639
>> Probably a little bit over that. Yeah.

2191
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:56,000
And what is if we were to try to get

2192
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,840
through all of them without any new

2193
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,600
houses coming on the list or shifting

2194
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,000
the list around, how long would it take

2195
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,080
us to get through that list?

2196
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,880
>> Uh, a few years. Like I said, uh, I

2197
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,440
think I pulled I just pulled the data

2198
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:11,600
uh, that we had on the last three years.

2199
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,080
I think we've been averaging

2200
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,719
um, I wouldn't want to get quoted on

2201
01:22:16,719 --> 01:22:18,080
this, but I'm pretty sure the average

2202
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,000
was between 80 and 90 that we've

2203
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,920
averaged the last three years.

2204
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,199
Okay. The reason why I'm I'm thinking

2205
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:26,800
about this further and asking this

2206
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,880
question and it actually makes me think

2207
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,360
about another question that was on here,

2208
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,280
but you actually answered it in the

2209
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,960
presentation and that was about weighted

2210
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,199
scoring. Um, obviously there is no

2211
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:38,960
weighted scoring, right? All of the

2212
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,360
categories are equal.

2213
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,960
I'm wondering if some categories should

2214
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,960
potentially have a higher weight. The

2215
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,480
thing that I'm specifically thinking

2216
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:50,800
about is fire. And the reason why I'm

2217
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,320
asking this specific question because I

2218
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,600
know that there's a house that I asked

2219
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,679
about. I believe the address is it's on

2220
01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:57,520
McKenley. I believe the house number is

2221
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:02,239
1310. Um that has a fire that had a fire

2222
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:04,080
in

2223
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,600
24

2224
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,080
that corporation council has said we

2225
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,440
received the right to demolish in either

2226
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:14,719
January or February of 25. And yet that

2227
01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:16,880
house is still standing. And it seems

2228
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,199
that as if, okay, well, if that house

2229
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:22,000
wasn't on McKinley, right, if it was in

2230
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,080
a neighborhood that all of the other

2231
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,320
houses around it were great, it might

2232
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,880
actually or if it was on a major street,

2233
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,280
it would have a higher score because the

2234
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,280
other houses in the neighborhood are

2235
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,520
also some of the other houses in the

2236
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,679
neighborhood are also deteriorating

2237
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:42,800
at the same time. Then because the

2238
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,440
neighborhood is unstable, then it

2239
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,440
actually leads to the house being on the

2240
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:50,960
list longer, which seems to be

2241
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,719
detrimental to the neighborhoods where

2242
01:23:54,719 --> 01:23:58,480
there's a multiple houses deteriorating

2243
01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:00,480
because we're doing things to stabilize

2244
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:02,159
neighborhoods that are already stable,

2245
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:04,000
but letting neighborhoods that are

2246
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,159
unstable remain unstable based on how

2247
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:10,719
this is been explained. And we can have

2248
01:24:10,719 --> 01:24:13,120
further conversation about what that

2249
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,520
could potentially look like. But it is,

2250
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,159
I think, troublesome to many people,

2251
01:24:18,159 --> 01:24:20,560
particularly the neighbors on Mckenley

2252
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,880
Street, that they've sat and looked at a

2253
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,000
house that had a fire

2254
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,480
>> almost two years ago and the house is

2255
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:29,840
still standing.

2256
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,480
>> Yeah. So, I'd say just a couple things

2257
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:34,960
in response to that. So, as we're going

2258
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,239
through and developing the demolition uh

2259
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:40,159
kind of business plan, we're trying to

2260
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:42,159
let take a holistic view of like, hey,

2261
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:44,000
how what are what are other options?

2262
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,920
What are big picture options that we can

2263
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,440
look at here? So, um with that, I

2264
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:52,400
understand your uh your thought process

2265
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,280
there and also I appreciate the feedback

2266
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,520
on kind of the priority uh or the uh

2267
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,360
neighborhood blight scale. Um, I'm

2268
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,320
always open to hear that. Uh, I think,

2269
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,719
you know, the thought process was just

2270
01:25:08,719 --> 01:25:10,480
trying to stabilize neighborhoods that

2271
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,719
haven't um that haven't gone downhill

2272
01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:15,120
yet, but uh understanding that thought

2273
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,360
process as well. So, I appreciate the

2274
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,600
feedback there. And I and I know in this

2275
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,840
particular instance, and I imagine it's

2276
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,520
probably the case with every house that

2277
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,719
has had a fire because everyone knows

2278
01:25:26,719 --> 01:25:28,880
that the house is empty, that the house

2279
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,120
is falling apart, that there's dumping

2280
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,760
and and you've seen the picture of the

2281
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,360
one on Mckenley because I sent it to

2282
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,239
both you and Corporation Council. So,

2283
01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:40,000
the considerable amount of dumping

2284
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,600
that's happening at that particular

2285
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,040
address, I'm sure has happened at many

2286
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,480
other addresses where the house is

2287
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:50,000
clearly

2288
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,440
uninhabitable.

2289
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:54,960
>> Um, and so I don't know if that can be a

2290
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,639
criteria. Um, obviously, like I said

2291
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:00,560
before, we've talked about it many

2292
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,400
times. So more than happy to sit down

2293
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,639
with you and brainstorm on what some of

2294
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:07,920
those additional criterias might be or

2295
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:08,880
what

2296
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,400
>> a weighted version could also look like.

2297
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,709
Um but

2298
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:19,120
there see what you guys are doing is

2299
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,639
great. It is definitely needed. Um and

2300
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:25,679
there's obviously way more that needs to

2301
01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:27,840
be done than you have the capacity to do

2302
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,080
in a year or two years. Right. You said

2303
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,040
it again what five years to get through

2304
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,400
all 200 or something like that.

2305
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,320
>> Uh no it probably be two and a half

2306
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:36,560
years.

2307
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:37,360
>> Two and a half years. Okay.

2308
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:38,480
>> Yeah. That's not taking into

2309
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:39,920
consideration anything being added to it

2310
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:40,320
but

2311
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,320
>> Right. So

2312
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,080
obviously

2313
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,000
there's a lot of work to be done and you

2314
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,679
guys are doing a lot of great work

2315
01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:49,520
already

2316
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,840
>> and yet and still we still know that as

2317
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,000
you've already said acknowledged we can

2318
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,400
do better. So I appreciate the work that

2319
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,480
you've done. you know, by the way that

2320
01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:00,159
you giggle because I was look making eye

2321
01:27:00,159 --> 01:27:02,080
contact with you like, "Oh, yes." Cuz

2322
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,760
those that's what my eyes were saying.

2323
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,840
Um, I really appreciate you bringing

2324
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,199
this presentation because it is

2325
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:09,440
something that I have been asking about

2326
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:12,560
a lot and we get asked about a lot. So,

2327
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,320
for us to be able to have something that

2328
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,440
we can share with people um about

2329
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:21,520
priorities is great. Um, I would love to

2330
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,760
be able to see whatever the list looks

2331
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,719
like because especially considering that

2332
01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:31,840
this list is only of properties which we

2333
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,239
already have the legal authority to

2334
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:37,040
demolish, we should be able to see it

2335
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,120
and be able to share it because those

2336
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,600
properties are already under the city's

2337
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,199
responsibility. If there are other

2338
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:44,159
properties that are not our

2339
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:46,480
responsibility, I can understand why we

2340
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:48,320
do not share that publicly. But there's

2341
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:49,840
no reason why we should not be able to

2342
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,679
see this list and for it to be able to

2343
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:54,000
be shared publicly, especially if we

2344
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,550
already have the legal authority.

2345
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,760
» Awesome. Anybody else?

2346
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,159
>> Uh, yes. I don't want to call the name

2347
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:06,400
of the house. I'm glad that y'all really

2348
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,280
kind of concerned about around the high

2349
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,520
school areas and and I'm talking about

2350
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,920
this one particular house on Hazel.

2351
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,880
We've done put a fence around it uh

2352
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:20,960
right now and are they waiting till the

2353
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,120
house fall down or we still keeping in

2354
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,960
contact with the foundation?

2355
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,639
>> I will what they going to do with that.

2356
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:27,840
>> I'll have to look into that and get back

2357
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,280
to you. I'm not actually aware of what

2358
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,280
you're talking about at the moment. So,

2359
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,520
>> okay. I guess

2360
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,280
>> it's a dig van Dyke house.

2361
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:35,920
>> Oh, okay.

2362
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:36,239
>> Yeah.

2363
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:37,520
>> All right. Yeah, I'll have to get back

2364
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,480
with you on that one.

2365
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:38,800
>> Okay.

2366
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,560
>> And find out what the status is.

2367
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,080
>> You're right there because it look like

2368
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,000
it's getting ready to fall down right

2369
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:44,400
now.

2370
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:45,360
>> Gotcha.

2371
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,790
>> Yeah.

2372
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,760
» Two items uh in in followup to Alderman

2373
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,239
Teague's comments.

2374
01:28:54,239 --> 01:29:01,679
Based on what's likely out there, it's probably a 5 to 10 year period at the current rate. And so that's where

2375
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:03,600
in order to accelerate that, we would

2376
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,440
have to dedicate additional resources

2377
01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:07,840
because while there are 200 that are

2378
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,280
legally qualified to demolish based on

2379
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,120
previous structural surveys and things

2380
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,199
like that that identified up to,200

2381
01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:17,040
structures not so long ago and I think

2382
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,800
the mayor's indicated they've torn down

2383
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,679
about 500 to 600 during his tenure.

2384
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:24,880
there's still 500 to potentially 700

2385
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,480
houses [clears throat] out there that

2386
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:28,800
are going to need it or need it today

2387
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,280
within that that same time frame. The

2388
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,840
other thing that is unfortunate and and

2389
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,800
uh I think we have to be careful in how

2390
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,280
we communicate this is some of us

2391
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,280
suspected that houses were catching on

2392
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:42,800
fire because neighbors knew that moved

2393
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,480
them up the list

2394
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,239
>> and that's why it was so important to

2395
01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:49,760
keep them secured and and keep them

2396
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,920
unable to get inside them to start the

2397
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,000
fires because

2398
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,400
that was an unknown.

2399
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,679
But sometimes there were some

2400
01:29:57,679 --> 01:29:59,360
coincidences were a little too

2401
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,639
coincidental. So thank you. And it's a

2402
01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:04,800
big big task. No question about it. And

2403
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,000
they do change. A winter snow load can

2404
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,520
change the condition of any of these

2405
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,920
structures. And so it's important to

2406
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,080
keep that followed up. And really I

2407
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,000
think it's critical that we get a a full

2408
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,239
scope of what is the total problem for

2409
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:19,840
the council to be able to set aside

2410
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,679
whatever they feel is a reasonable pace

2411
01:30:21,679 --> 01:30:23,280
of time. If we want to get them all done

2412
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,600
in three years, five years, we need to

2413
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,000
know the numbers. Data is what we can

2414
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,600
base it on. Thank you.

2415
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,880
>> One last question. Does the list then

2416
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,149
have

2417
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:42,000
does a list currently have estimated

2418
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,320
date or

2419
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:44,719
>> no

2420
01:30:44,719 --> 01:30:45,679
>> or desired date?

2421
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:50,400
>> No. Um, one of the So, we do scheduling

2422
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,960
uh out but uh we try to set we I have

2423
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,960
our demolition manager send me like

2424
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,840
what's he got in the upcoming months uh

2425
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,639
like couple months. uh we try not to

2426
01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:05,120
share too much of of the dates within

2427
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,520
two to three weeks because we have a for

2428
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,679
instance situation like the John Street

2429
01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:13,679
one where something changes and uh I

2430
01:31:13,679 --> 01:31:16,480
always want to be a man of my word and I

2431
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:18,800
think that enough has happened that I

2432
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,639
have regretted [laughter] sharing too

2433
01:31:20,639 --> 01:31:22,560
much information. So, if I'm being

2434
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,639
honest, I just I I try not to share a

2435
01:31:24,639 --> 01:31:26,080
whole lot of the time frames. Just

2436
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:27,653
knowing how things end up going.

2437
01:31:27,653 --> 01:31:28,080
[laughter]

2438
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,520
>> And the dumping is the other big thing

2439
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,360
that you mentioned to me too, Dave, is

2440
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:32,960
that when people know, then all of a

2441
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,320
sudden, as you mentioned, Alderman

2442
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,600
Teague, it becomes an even bigger

2443
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,159
problem more rapidly. and and that's

2444
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:39,920
understandable, but that doesn't mean

2445
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,120
that there can't be something done to

2446
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,080
share more information with us. whether

2447
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:50,159
it's a house is in the top 10 or

2448
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:53,040
um these are the things that we actually

2449
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,239
scheduled

2450
01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:56,480
>> the week of that it gets scheduled or

2451
01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:58,560
something of that nature because right

2452
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:04,480
now we are flying blind and it is

2453
01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:06,639
>> there is an exceptional amount of time

2454
01:32:06,639 --> 01:32:08,400
spent

2455
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,199
on at least by me

2456
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:12,719
>> um when I get calls on this I don't know

2457
01:32:12,719 --> 01:32:13,920
about anybody else but there's an

2458
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,600
exceptional amount of time spent

2459
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,440
on empty houses and problem properties.

2460
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:22,719
And I personally, my approach has always

2461
01:32:22,719 --> 01:32:24,159
been when somebody calls me about a

2462
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:26,639
house, regardless of where it is in the

2463
01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:29,440
city of Danville, I drive by. I look at

2464
01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:32,480
it for myself, I take pictures, I send

2465
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:34,960
emails, I follow back up with the person

2466
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,280
who contacted me. So, there is a

2467
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:38,880
significant amount of time that happens

2468
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,400
on every property. And it seems like

2469
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,440
all we're doing is

2470
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:48,239
cha from my perspective chasing problem

2471
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:50,800
properties when if we actually had some

2472
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,080
information I could at least say yes

2473
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,120
it's on a radar.

2474
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:57,440
>> Yeah.

2475
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:01,199
>> But I can't say that because I don't see

2476
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:02,480
it.

2477
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:08,560
>> Alderman Teague. Um we were to be providing a monthly update

2478
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,400
of what's coming up in the month and

2479
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,000
there was a little miscommunication on

2480
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,080
that. So that will be um happening

2481
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,840
moving forward.

2482
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,840
>> Well, we'll talk internally too and just

2483
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,239
see I'll I've got some ideas kicking

2484
01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:23,280
around that uh I'll kind of run past and

2485
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,520
see. We'll talk internally and I'll

2486
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:26,719
figure out what we might be able to do

2487
01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:28,239
to communicate a little bit better with

2488
01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:29,040
you guys.

2489
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,280
>> Okay. and and if you want feedback, you

2490
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:32,719
know, feel free to call or text me

2491
01:33:32,719 --> 01:33:33,199
anytime.

2492
01:33:33,199 --> 01:33:38,709
>> Awesome. Thank you.

2493
01:33:38,719 --> 01:33:40,639
» I'll text you.

2494
01:33:40,639 --> 01:33:44,000
>> It has been my experience that

2495
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,520
um when the public finds out something's

2496
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,000
going to be demolished, all of a sudden

2497
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,400
it becomes a dumping ground.

2498
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,320
I really think we're causing we would be

2499
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,199
causing more problems for ourselves if

2500
01:33:59,199 --> 01:34:02,639
we made it public that this house is

2501
01:34:02,639 --> 01:34:07,120
going to be torn down at this time. Um

2502
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,280
it it happened in my own neighborhood,

2503
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,159
you know, they found 20ome tires in one

2504
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:14,800
house, you know, and they hadn't been

2505
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,159
there to my knowledge

2506
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:20,880
before it was said that it was going to

2507
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,520
be torn down. So, I think we have to be

2508
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,880
careful what we say. It's not that we

2509
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,440
don't want the public to know. It's just

2510
01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:32,400
that the houses are dangerous and we

2511
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,159
don't want people in them. And if

2512
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:36,000
they're dumping in them, they're they're

2513
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,400
in them. So, I I don't I don't think

2514
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,120
it's all that good of an idea to to

2515
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:47,360
release a list of of demos that's going

2516
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,480
to happen in a recent

2517
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:57,110
projection.

2518
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,920
» I can appreciate that people will dump

2519
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:01,360
at houses that they know are on the

2520
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,880
list. People are dumping at houses that

2521
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,639
they don't know are on the list. I mean,

2522
01:35:04,639 --> 01:35:07,840
Mckenley has been on the list since at

2523
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:11,199
some point since January 2025. And if

2524
01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:13,120
you saw the pictures of that house, you

2525
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:14,719
can't see the house hardly because of

2526
01:35:14,719 --> 01:35:18,480
all the dumping. I also sent uh Dave a

2527
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:21,120
house. Oh, I can't remember when, but I

2528
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,480
can remember where. It's over by

2529
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:24,719
Douglas. Um that there was a bunch of

2530
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:27,120
dumping. You guys went out there cuz it

2531
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,800
was dumping in the back and dumping in

2532
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,400
the front. in the front of the house. I

2533
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:34,080
have I still have the pictures. The the front of the house had actually

2534
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,400
collapsed. Um the front on the front

2535
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,159
porch area had collapsed and I remember

2536
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:40,480
that there was a bunch of dumping and um

2537
01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:41,840
you guys went over there and clean it up

2538
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,120
and I don't believe that that house was

2539
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,360
on the list at that time or not. Um

2540
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,040
people are dumping just because they're

2541
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,120
dumping. They're dumping at the end of

2542
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:50,880
streets. If I drive down Shasta Street

2543
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,800
right now, which is in my ward, and go

2544
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,480
to the end of Shasta Street, I guarantee

2545
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:56,159
you I'm going to find tires. And there's

2546
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:58,000
no house there. They're just dumping.

2547
01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,600
And they're dumping all along Fowler

2548
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,199
Street as well. People in this town are

2549
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:03,600
dumping regardless. But we still need to

2550
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,199
see the list. I'm not saying that it has

2551
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:06,800
that we have to make it public or that

2552
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,480
we got to post it anywhere. But if

2553
01:36:08,480 --> 01:36:10,159
somebody calls me about a house, I

2554
01:36:10,159 --> 01:36:11,760
should not have to then go drive by the

2555
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:13,600
house, take a look at it, and then go

2556
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,679
call Dave to see what's going on with it

2557
01:36:15,679 --> 01:36:17,440
for me to know that it's already on the

2558
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:19,920
list. I just want to be able to know

2559
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,480
that something is imminent and I could

2560
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:24,880
at least see it on the list. And if it's

2561
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,480
in the top 10, I know that it's going to

2562
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,639
be taken down at some point soon when I

2563
01:36:28,639 --> 01:36:30,400
get a phone call. And if it's not in the

2564
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,000
top 10, I can say, "Well, you know what?

2565
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,440
It's on the list and they'll eventually

2566
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:35,920
get to it." And at least that satisfies

2567
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,560
the person who is calling me because

2568
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,760
they think that the city is not paying

2569
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,840
attention to what's going on in their

2570
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,080
neighborhoods and we don't have anything

2571
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:47,760
to tell them because we don't know

2572
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,320
ourselves. So, we need to be able to

2573
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,320
tell them something. And for us to not

2574
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:53,920
have the information to me is

2575
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,080
problematic. Whether or not we make it

2576
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,159
publicly accessible,

2577
01:36:58,159 --> 01:37:00,239
I'm open to whatever works for everybody

2578
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:02,639
and it creates a win-win situation. But

2579
01:37:02,639 --> 01:37:04,960
having nothing to be able to give them

2580
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,800
is not a win-win situation. It's a

2581
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,360
win-lose situation because the citizens

2582
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:18,229
feel like nobody cares.

2583
01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:21,199
» Two things. uh the there is a little bit

2584
01:37:21,199 --> 01:37:23,280
of subjectivity in the objective

2585
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,199
evaluation scoring and what have you and

2586
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:27,280
that's where I do think the alderman

2587
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,840
could support play a supportive role in

2588
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,440
staying in communication with the

2589
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:33,280
department of hey you guys have this one

2590
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,080
ranked here but this is what goes on at

2591
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:37,920
night that you don't see as an inspector

2592
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,360
or something like that and that's

2593
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,199
something that perhaps can be worked out

2594
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:43,040
between the others

2595
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,119
>> the other has been wrestled with for a

2596
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:46,719
long long time and what I can tell you

2597
01:37:46,719 --> 01:37:49,440
is if it's provided to us It's foyable

2598
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:51,840
which mean it's available to everyone.

2599
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,119
And so the the concerns that we had in

2600
01:37:55,119 --> 01:37:57,040
the early days go back to what Alderman

2601
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,520
DeToy indicated is they were getting in

2602
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,360
these places and taking out stairways

2603
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,040
and everything else and anything else of

2604
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:04,560
value. And I assume that still happens

2605
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,239
if they can get in them, copper,

2606
01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:08,960
everything. And so it is a problem to

2607
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,199
have the list out there. I get it. But

2608
01:38:11,199 --> 01:38:12,960
there does have to be a way that the

2609
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,040
elected officials can interact with the

2610
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,440
administration to get the data they need

2611
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,679
without creating documents that can then

2612
01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:22,000
be distributed.

2613
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,920
>> And and you're right because I watched

2614
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,480
the houses around Garfield Park when we

2615
01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:29,040
purchased them get torn to shreds.

2616
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,310
>> Yep.

2617
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,679
» All right, Mayor, that concludes our

2618
01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:34,239
report.

2619
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:36,080
>> Thank you, Chairman Boore. At this time,

2620
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,440
we will receive our public services

2621
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:39,280
committee report by Chairman Vicker.

2622
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,560
>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh 12A is a resolution

2623
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,480
authorizing the purchase of surveillance

2624
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:46,960
cameras through organized rental crime

2625
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,679
grant program. Um at this time I make a

2626
01:38:49,679 --> 01:38:51,440
mo I'll make a motion to dispense with

2627
01:38:51,440 --> 01:38:52,800
the reading and ask for uh their

2628
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,239
approval. Is there a second?

2629
01:38:54,239 --> 01:38:54,800
>> I second.

2630
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:55,840
>> Second.

2631
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,119
>> Is there any discussion or debate?

2632
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:00,320
>> This one Mrs. P.

2633
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,040
>> Yes.

2634
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,280
>> The chief controller did very well with

2635
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,040
that presentation by the way at public.

2636
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,280
This did come to public works because it

2637
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,000
was timesensitive. So, it went to the

2638
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,679
public works committee last week and got

2639
01:39:11,679 --> 01:39:14,880
moved to the full council this week.

2640
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,119
>> Thank you.

2641
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:18,480
>> Roll call, please.

2642
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:20,000
>> I'm sorry.

2643
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,360
>> Oh,

2644
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:25,669
>> I was just stretching. [laughter]

2645
01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:26,960
» Look like you had a pressing question.

2646
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:27,520
Alderman.

2647
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:28,960
>> Oh, yeah. I'll just stretch and tell

2648
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,960
you, you know, kind of [laughter]

2649
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:32,960
>> exactly where are these cameras going to

2650
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,520
go as a retail grant? I mean, what are

2651
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:36,639
you planning on doing? Where are you

2652
01:39:36,639 --> 01:39:38,480
putting them or are they not in the

2653
01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:40,080
parks?

2654
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,239
>> Well, I I will say that some of the

2655
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:45,679
parks that we will be taking the cameras

2656
01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:47,520
that we're getting, we're finding that

2657
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,000
there's a

2658
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,840
I think the effectiveness with some of

2659
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,440
the cameras that we're getting will be

2660
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:56,159
better there. And then we'll be taking

2661
01:39:56,159 --> 01:39:58,960
some of those cameras and putting them

2662
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,520
in another area where the vantage point

2663
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:05,280
is uh taken care of with that current

2664
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,520
status of the camera, you know, angles,

2665
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,159
views, uh capabilities,

2666
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:12,960
uh and and so forth. So, this is all a

2667
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,719
continuence of what we had talked about

2668
01:40:14,719 --> 01:40:18,320
with the parks. uh the this was the

2669
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,199
second part of the funding that was

2670
01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:23,679
approved and then the grant came in

2671
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:26,960
after uh fiscal years.

2672
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,080
>> Okay, that's fine.

2673
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,199
>> Yeah.

2674
01:40:29,199 --> 01:40:31,199
>> So, this is just essentially to spend

2675
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:32,639
the money that you already approved for

2676
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:35,360
us to spend. But

2677
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,719
>> any other questions? Roll call, please.

2678
01:40:38,719 --> 01:40:40,080
>> Alderman Teague,

2679
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:40,960
>> yes.

2680
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:41,600
>> Leadwick,

2681
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:42,400
>> yes.

2682
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:43,040
>> Arn,

2683
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:43,520
>> yes.

2684
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,159
>> Cooper,

2685
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:45,520
>> yes. Butler,

2686
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:46,080
>> yes.

2687
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:46,719
>> The Toy

2688
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:47,199
>> Yes.

2689
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:48,080
>> Tashard,

2690
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:48,480
>> yes.

2691
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:49,440
>> High Tower,

2692
01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:49,920
>> yes.

2693
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:50,800
>> Johnson,

2694
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,199
>> yes.

2695
01:40:51,199 --> 01:40:51,920
>> Okain,

2696
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:52,480
>> yes.

2697
01:40:52,480 --> 01:40:53,040
>> Poor,

2698
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:53,920
>> yes.

2699
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:54,639
>> Pickering,

2700
01:40:54,639 --> 01:40:56,000
>> yes.

2701
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:59,679
>> 12, yes. Uh 12B. Items of information.

2702
01:40:59,679 --> 01:41:01,520
Uh we will have our public service

2703
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,679
meeting uh September the 22nd, next

2704
01:41:03,679 --> 01:41:06,560
Tuesday at 6 PM in these chambers. Uh

2705
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,880
and that concludes our report. Mayor,

2706
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,119
>> thank you, Vice Chairman.

2707
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:12,800
At this time, we have our items of

2708
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,199
information and uh first which has been

2709
01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:17,840
on our our list for some time is a

2710
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,320
potential change in treasurer selection.

2711
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:21,840
Although we do not have a written

2712
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,159
opinion yet, we expect that any day uh

2713
01:41:24,159 --> 01:41:26,159
corporation council parker and I did

2714
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:27,600
have occasion to speak to the attorney

2715
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:29,520
who is writing the position. So I wanted

2716
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,199
to have uh corporation council provide

2717
01:41:31,199 --> 01:41:32,719
you with a verbal update of what he

2718
01:41:32,719 --> 01:41:34,880
shared with us.

2719
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:37,040
So, the city retained an attorney to

2720
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,360
provide a second opinion on changing the

2721
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,280
treasur's position from elected to

2722
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,600
appointed. As the mayor mentioned, last

2723
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,639
Friday, um we spoke to attorney Lance

2724
01:41:46,639 --> 01:41:49,679
Molina of Klein, Thor, and Jenkins.

2725
01:41:49,679 --> 01:41:52,400
They're located in the Chicago area. Uh

2726
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,199
Mr. uh Molina was hopeful he could have

2727
01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:58,239
the written opinion to us uh by this

2728
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:01,119
evening uh for the council meeting uh

2729
01:42:01,119 --> 01:42:03,920
but we have not received it. So, he was

2730
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,040
able to provide the mayor and I with his

2731
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,679
preliminary opinion stating, however, he

2732
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:12,480
was completing some research for his

2733
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:14,480
final opinion.

2734
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:16,880
So, should the council choose to change

2735
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,360
the treasur's position from elected to

2736
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,480
appointed, his preliminary opinion is as

2737
01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:25,040
follows. Uh, he does not believe the

2738
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,440
federal court has jurisdiction.

2739
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:29,840
The city absolutely has uh the authority

2740
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,159
to place the question of changing the

2741
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:35,440
treasur's position from elected to

2742
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:37,840
appointed through the referendum process

2743
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,400
without going to federal court. He does

2744
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,320
not advise making the change by

2745
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:45,520
ordinance. He does not believe case law

2746
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:49,360
allows to change the form of government.

2747
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,679
Uh he was also asked to uh provide an

2748
01:42:51,679 --> 01:42:56,000
opinion that was brought up. uh he uh

2749
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,719
states there is no rule requiring

2750
01:42:58,719 --> 01:43:02,719
Danville to keep two elected positions.

2751
01:43:02,719 --> 01:43:09,840
Um so he is uh like the mayor stated, we expect his uh formal written opinion

2752
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,800
any day now. Get that to you as soon as

2753
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,239
possible.

2754
01:43:14,239 --> 01:43:17,119
So the key points being that the it it

2755
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:19,440
may not be changed by ordinance or he

2756
01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:21,600
recommends that it cannot be that it

2757
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,800
would have to go to referendum.

2758
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,520
>> He didn't he did not recommend we do it

2759
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:28,800
by ordinance.

2760
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,719
>> Well, yeah. Yes, that's correct.

2761
01:43:30,719 --> 01:43:33,920
>> Um and in that um the other thing which

2762
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,360
we've had some question about and I know

2763
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:36,639
Alderman Okaine, you brought this

2764
01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:39,199
question up again recently and it's been

2765
01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:41,119
for many years a discussion. We've

2766
01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:42,560
always been told that we have to have at

2767
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,800
least two officials elected at large.

2768
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,320
That is not the case. That is not a

2769
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,520
statutorial requirement. Um we we could

2770
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,360
determine that through referendum.

2771
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,119
>> Yes. Alderman Okaine.

2772
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:58,480
>> If it council decides to send it to

2773
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:02,080
referendum, what's the drop dead time

2774
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:06,239
that they have to get it to the November

2775
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:07,920
or any other election?

2776
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,400
>> November has passed. November has

2777
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,800
passed. I believe it would

2778
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,040
>> so

2779
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,159
uh 79 days before the election. So you'd

2780
01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:22,080
have to have uh that question certified

2781
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,040
uh to place it on the ballot. So the

2782
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,080
general election is

2783
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,960
April 6th of 27.

2784
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:35,440
79 days would be January 17th of 27. The

2785
01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:40,639
primary is February 23rd of 27. 79 days

2786
01:44:40,639 --> 01:44:47,669
would be December 6th of 26.

2787
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:49,040
» Yes, Mr. Butler.

2788
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:54,960
>> So, what you're saying then is that the council has the

2789
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,000
uh the authority to to put it on the

2790
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,480
referendum, right?

2791
01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:04,080
So we also have the authority to uh vote

2792
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:08,159
it up or down whether we want to or not.

2793
01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:08,960
>> Correct.

2794
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:12,709
>> Okay.

2795
01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:14,320
» Any Alderman Ars

2796
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,960
>> did he offer an opinion on uh what

2797
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,119
chairman poor had indicated as far as

2798
01:45:19,119 --> 01:45:21,679
the number of alderman and are any type

2799
01:45:21,679 --> 01:45:24,960
of a waiver for not complying with the

2800
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,400
statutes on the number of aldermen?

2801
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,719
That was not something uh that he was

2802
01:45:30,719 --> 01:45:31,119
asked

2803
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:31,760
>> before him.

2804
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:32,320
>> Correct.

2805
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,960
>> Thank you.

2806
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,040
>> In in speaking with the council, it was

2807
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:38,639
my understanding that the we were to

2808
01:45:38,639 --> 01:45:42,639
focus on the treasurer's position.

2809
01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:44,800
>> Any further items on that discussion on

2810
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:45,520
that?

2811
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,000
>> Yes. Alderman T.

2812
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,520
>> Did he have any opinion on any potential

2813
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:55,280
cost if we were sued as a result of the

2814
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,280
change?

2815
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,880
He was not asked uh to give an opinion

2816
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,920
on that matter.

2817
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,560
>> Okay. Thank you.

2818
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,000
>> Are there any other items for the good

2819
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,360
of the cause?

2820
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,199
>> Mayor, I do have an item here.

2821
01:46:11,199 --> 01:46:11,600
>> Yes.

2822
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,520
>> Um we had sent out a press release

2823
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:14,960
earlier and I've just got it posted on

2824
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,360
social media while here tonight. Um we

2825
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,760
will be having a meeting at Mad Goat u

2826
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,719
Monday, September 21st at 400 p.m. It is

2827
01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:24,480
to talk about the Kickapoo Rail Trail,

2828
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:26,639
what that plan looks like. um and to get

2829
01:46:26,639 --> 01:46:28,400
engagement from the community. So, if

2830
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:29,920
you do or don't support it, please come

2831
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:31,520
out or if you don't understand what it

2832
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,840
is, um please connect with us. We'd love

2833
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,480
to share more information. Yes,

2834
01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:37,760
>> that Mad Goat South.

2835
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,423
>> Yes, Mad Goat South. Thank you.

2836
01:46:39,423 --> 01:46:40,159
[laughter]

2837
01:46:40,159 --> 01:46:42,880
Um we've got that sent out on our media,

2838
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,880
social media, all of the things. So,

2839
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,800
first that and then the second thing is

2840
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,480
we'll be sending out more information.

2841
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:50,320
It's going to be a survey about

2842
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,119
pedestrian safety um and like extending

2843
01:46:53,119 --> 01:46:55,119
sidewalks. So, just keep an eye out for

2844
01:46:55,119 --> 01:46:56,560
that. that that will be coming shortly.

2845
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,560
We did one a couple of years ago, but we

2846
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,000
are just trying to get that refreshed

2847
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,960
and get some additional um feedback on

2848
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,480
that. So, just keep your eye out for

2849
01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:05,520
that one.

2850
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:06,960
>> Thank you. Administrator,

2851
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:08,960
>> could we have the date and time again,

2852
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:09,520
please?

2853
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,000
>> Yeah, absolutely. September 21st, which

2854
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,320
would be Monday at 4 p.m.

2855
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,119
>> at at Mad Goat at Mad Goat South. uh so

2856
01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:21,350
on South Gilbert

2857
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,280
» 4 pm [snorts]

2858
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:24,880
>> it's on our website if that's helpful

2859
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,400
for you guys to share it and I've also

2860
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,000
got it like I said posted on his social

2861
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,280
media so hopefully that helps you guys

2862
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:32,880
>> are there any other items of information

2863
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,440
for the good of the cause

2864
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:37,040
having satisfied the agenda I would

2865
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:38,560
enter we don't need close session I

2866
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:40,080
would entertain a motion to adjurnn

2867
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,679
>> so move second

2868
01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:43,040
>> it's been moved and seconded any

2869
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:44,960
discussion or debate all those in favor

2870
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,920
please say I Any oppose? Same sign. We

2871
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,080
are ajourned.