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We have an indication by Vice Mayor Dr. Miller, followed by a pledge of allegiance, actually want to please say.

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Let's pray your Lord, since the start of 2023, there have been over 30 mass slangs, hundreds of men, women, and particularly children who died.

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What are we doing wrong?

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This is not on you, Lord. This is not on our children. This is on us. We're failing our children. We're failing ourselves. We can produce vaccines to save millions. We can put astronauts on the moon.

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All these things we're able to do, but we can't seem to control our anger.

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What can we do, Lord?

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We must work together.

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We can work together, save our planet, return this garden, return our planet to the

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garden of Eden.

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And find peace in our lifetime.

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The power of prayer is all powerful.

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As is your saving grace and your forgiveness, we implore you to help us find our way.

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I mean, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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I want to say good evening to those of you who are here in the chambers.

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We welcome you here. Those of you who are viewing us by River City TV. We say good evening to you and those of you who are in your homes.

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We want to say good evening.

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Council will under the consideration of approval.

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It's much of a pleasure.

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Councilor Barker.

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Man, I can make a motion that we approve the minutes as presented.

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Second, I can have Councilman Mayo.

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Discussion of the motion.

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Madam quick, if you would call the roll, please.

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Mr. Buckner.

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All right.

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Mr. Hood.

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All right.

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Mayor Jones.

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Mr. Mayor.

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Vice Mayor Miller.

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Mr. Saunders.

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Mr. Robler.

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Mr. Will.

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Consideration of vacating the right away at Ann Bird Court in Harrow Way Lane.

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I open the public here and anyone desires to speak on this agenda item may come forward

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at this time.

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Anyone who desires to speak on this agenda item may come forward at this time.

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Please state your name.

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You address for the record and good evening to you, sir.

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David May.

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City Council members.

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Thank you.

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John Stiltoner.

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You can give that microphone up for us, so we're about to get you very good.

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Thank you.

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John Stilner with Lamark Development for O-1, East Worse-Free,

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Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

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I appreciate being here today.

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I am here to ask for the abandonment or the vacation right away on

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Ceilin Drive for the Ceilin Valley Apartments, which was awarded last year,

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and reasoned last year for 52 senior living units over next to the

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panel, housing authority, we've partnered with and here to answer any questions.

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Everything's moving pretty good with designs, got ourselves really excited by getting

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the project going and this is one of the steps that we have to take to keep it moving forward.

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Thank you so much for being any questions?

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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We're sending public hearing, anyone who's not speaking on this agenda item may come forward

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at this time.

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We're still in public hearing, anyone who's not speaking on this agenda item may come forward

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this time.

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I close the public here in Casman of Ogler.

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Yes, Mayor, I move we adopt an ordinance vacating approximately 1.42 acres of unimproved public right away identified as Ann Bird, Court, and Harroway Lane.

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Second by Councilman Campbell, discussion of the motion.

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Madam Clerk, if you would call the roll please.

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Reverend Campbell?

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Mr. Hood?

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I've stayed.

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May your Jones?

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Hold on, Councilman, who have reached the statement?

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I, Brian Hood, do hear by state that I have a conflict of interest regarding the consideration

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of an ordinance vacating approximately 1.42 acres of unimproved public right of way identified

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as Anne Bird Court and Harold Way Lane listed on agenda as new business item 1.

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Item A, I'm sorry, therefore, pursuant to the state and local government conflict of interest

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Virginia code 2.2-3112.

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I must abstain from voting on this agenda item.

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Mayor Jones?

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I'll answer the Jones through here by state that I have a conflict of interest regarding the consideration of an ordinance vacating approximately 1.42.

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Acres on improved public right away.

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I identify this amber court and how are we laying listed on the agenda's new business item A.

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Therefore, pursuing to the state and local government conflict of interest like Virginia code 2.23112.

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I must abstain from vote on this agenda item.

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Mr. Mayor?

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Aye.

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Vice Mayor Miller?

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Mr. Song.

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Mr. Vogel? Aye.

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Mr. Wood?

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Mr. Buckner?

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Consider some special use permit.

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At 2.5.2.

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Lipton Lane, Part Cell 5.6147.

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To allow short-term rental as principal use,

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I open the public here in anyone's sole desires.

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As we go, this agenda item may come forward to this time.

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Anyone decides to speak on this agenda item may come forward to this time.

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Please take your name and address for the record. Good evening to you, sir. My name is Quincey Petite and I am out of

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Charlotte, North Carolina, 70, the one in the current way. This is a property that I've owned and I've just

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brushed it up and I would like to turn into an Airbnb for a usage. Thank you. Thank you any questions?

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Thank you so much for being here. We're still in public here and anyone has desires to be

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going to this agenda either may come forward at this time. Anyone else who desires please

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state your name and address what I'm good evening to you man.

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Good evening.

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My name is Dolores Tate and I'm just this is not I guess only I but we cannot hear back

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here what's being said everything is going this way is there something that can be done

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about that.

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Yes we'll get everyone to speak directly into council put your microphones directly in.

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We're still in the public hearing anyone decides to speak on this agenda either may

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for this time. Thank you. I'll take me some more. Thank you so much. Anyone

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does I speak on this agenda? If not, if we get too loud, let's know.

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close the public here in Councillor Mr. Plaza, Councillor Vogueler. Yes, Mayor, I

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moved. We adopted an ordained screening special use permit application, PZ23001-825 by

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So, Lairdus Enterprises LLC, requesting a special use permit to operate a short-term rental at Parcel ID 5-6-147, which is 2-5-2-litton lane in accordance with Article 3-E, Section C, item 29.

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Second by Councilman Campbell, discussion of the motion.

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Madam, Councilman Vogler.

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Who's here to, because we got several of these.

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You can handle them, can't I know we're going to have several of these tonight. I just

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yes, our plane director Renee Burton is here who can help answer that question. We got a full

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house tonight.

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I just want to make sure that I'm reading everything in the packet right before we

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vote a so plan and commission to prove this five zero correct and I think 27 notices were sent

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to surrounding property owners of the 27, and they only had five who are opposed. That's right.

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Yes.

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And staff has recommended approval for this as well.

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That's right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, anyone else?

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Thank you, Willie.

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Thank you, Willie.

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Madam, Clerk of you, we'll call the roll, please.

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Mr. Hood.

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Hi.

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Mayor, Mr. Mayo.

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Vice Mayor Miller.

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Hi.

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Mr. Saunders.

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Mr. Vowgler.

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Mr. Whittle.

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Mr. Buckner.

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If you're in the back, and this is too loud for you, just raise your hand, I can let

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out techno to turn it down.

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Under item C, consideration of a special use permit at 54 Glent Oak Drive, Part Cell 55396,

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to allow short term rental as principle use, I open the public here in any one so desires

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to speak on this agenda item may come forward at this time.

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Please state your name and your address for the record and good evening to you, sir and ma

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Mr. and Derek Adams, we're at 117 Woodstock Way in Windsor Heights.

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We're requesting a special use permit for 54 Glenoke to do a short-term rental.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you both for being here.

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We're still in public here, and anyone has to decide to speak on this agenda item may come forward at this time.

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Anyone has to decide to speak on this agenda item may come forward at this time.

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I close the public here in Casman Buckner.

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Now I'd like to make a motion that we approve in ordnance, granting a special use permit application,

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BZ23-00189, followed by DM Woodstock Enterprise LLC, requesting a special use permit to operate a short term rental,

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at parcel ID number 5, 5, 3, 9, 6, but are known as 54 Glent Oak Drive and accordance with Article 3, E, Section C, item 29.

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Second, that Councilman Mayo, Discussion of the Motion, Discussion of the Motion, Madam Corrective, if you would call the Robles.

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Mayor Jones, Mr. Mayo, Vice Mayor Miller, Mr. Saunders, Mr. Robler, Mr. Whittle, Mr. Buckner, Reverend Campbell, Mr. Hood.

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Consideration of a special use permit, 21 ash lawn drive, Perseparcel 53030, to allow short-term rental as principal use.

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I open the public here in anyone so desires to speak on this agenda item may come forward this time.

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Good evening to you, man. Please state your name. You address for the record points.

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Jennifer Durham, 1155 sitting in hollow and I'm requesting to use a special short term special permit for 21 ash lawn.

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Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much. We're still in public here and anyone

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decides to speak on this agenda item may come forward this time. Anyone else who

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decides to speak on this agenda item may come forward this time?

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I close the public in Councilman Buckner.

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Mayor, like to make a motion, we approve an ordinance granting a special use permit application.

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PZ2300195, followed by for tous investments LLC, requesting a special use permit to

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operator short term rental at parcel ID number 53030, better known as 21 Ashland Drive,

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and accordance with Article 3E, Section C, item 29.

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Second, my Councilman Campbell, discussing of the motion.

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Councilman Vogler.

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Renee, you can give me a head, not if you want.

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41 notices, one out, I'm seeing four, opposed out of 41, not correct.

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And again, unanimous approval from the Planning Commission, correct.

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All right, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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Dr. Miller.

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That's a question, Renee.

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A short-term rental definition is up to 30 days by our statutes.

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That's correct.

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Greater than 18 hours less than 30 days.

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So it has to, it can't be under 18 hours.

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That's correct.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Renee.

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Thank you, Renee.

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Mine will put a call to roll please.

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Mr. Mayor?

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All right. Vice-Mayor Mill.

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Mr. Saunders.

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Aye. Mr. Bogler. Aye. Mr. Whittle. Aye. Mr. Buckner. Aye.

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Reverend Campbell. Aye. Mr. Hood. Aye. Mayor Jones.

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Aye. Consideration of a special use permit at 162 college avenue,

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partial 21264, to allow short term rental as principal use.

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I open the public here in anyone so desires to speak on this agenda item.

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come forward at this time if there are any parties with you please stand at this once you make

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your presentation. Good evening to you sir. Good evening. My name is Patrick San Miguel,

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resident in homeowner of 162 college Avenue. I recently moved into Danville back in January as I've

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been assigned to work here in the foreseeable future of working on the casino as a project manager.

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By only me, I had purchasing clothes on this beautiful property with plants to renovate and

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to revitalize the century old home and eventually utilize the ex of bedrooms to host families

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and professionals traveling to Dandel while I reside here.

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To do so, I was advised by zoning that a special use permit is required even if this

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helmet is my primary residence and so I did.

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When I stood before the city planning commission on July 10th, I was informed of the concerns

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for my neighbors with regards to turning my home into a short-term rental.

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While some concerns were typical due to the perceived nature of short-term rentals, others were specific to the location and existing issues in such as parking.

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Regardless, all were fair concerns that need to be addressed.

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Therefore, I've sent letters to all my neighbors along college, to give them a better understanding of mine.

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I want to read the whole thing, but I would like to read some of the excerpts from that letter.

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Several weeks ago, when again last week, you received notices from this city stating that I am requesting

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a special use permit to allow short-term rental as principal use of my home.

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While I did apply for the permit, I found that the verbiage is a bit misleading and inconsistent with why intent to do.

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I can understand and certainly appreciate the concerns that were raised by the residents of this neighborhood, when these notices went out.

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First and foremost, I would like to make it very clear that I have no desire to turn my home into a motel for anyone and everyone to simply book and stay.

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The primary use of this home is and will remain as my primary residents while I reside here in Dandel.

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I am responsible for my guests, just as much as everyone else in this neighborhood is responsible for theirs.

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When I purchased this home in Nurli May, I spent that month moving in, renovating and furnishing my new century old home.

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It was a fun and challenging renovation project that I took on while also making a concerted effort in preserving its timeless Victorian charm.

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A fine completion, I decided to take advantage of the extra bedrooms by hosting traveling guests and families while I live here.

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But Memorial Day weekend, I listed my home as a three-bedroom rental with a maximum occupancy of six adults on Airbnb and VRBO.

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This is only for a single reservation at a time, as I do not intend on renting each room separately.

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In total, this is a five-bedroom home. However, I do occupy the fourth bedroom, and I turn the fifth bedroom into an entertainment group with a pool table.

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I understand that doing this was premature as the entire permit process had not yet been completed.

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However, the permitting process is neither cheap nor easy.

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As I mentioned during the City Planning Commission public hearing,

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I had to be sure that I myself felt safe in what I'm doing

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and can cater only to the right demographics of guests to invite to my home.

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Otherwise, I would not be continuing this process.

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I have invested a lot of time to sweat and savings in this home

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and I am truly proud of what I have accomplished with it.

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Therefore, I have no desire to invite guests who will disrespect my home and neighborhood.

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All my guests today have left my home extremely clean, dishes washed, trash taken out and placed in a trash bin.

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On all occasions, no guests have brought more than two cars.

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I certainly recognize the existing challenge with parking on college avenue,

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and do not wish to exacerbate it by adding more cars and traffic from a single household every different time.

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To remain consistent with average of two cars per household industry,

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I intend to enforce the maximum guest in two car parking capacity as I greet my guests when they check in or as I pass through my security camera when they enter if I'm not home

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I've also made a range mode of friends and a fellow host in Danville for me to stay in their homes on nights when my homes book

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So I won't have to park my car at home when I have guests

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Please register sure that parking for my guests is limited to my driveway and the street part street parking directly in front of my house

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On days when I do not have guests, I continue to make the street parking directly in front of my house available for my neighbors and with their guests to use.

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Based on this trial period, I anticipate my home to be booked only 8-13 nights per month on average, mainly on weekends.

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This is assuming I make every night available at a given month.

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However, I do block off certain days so allow my family and friends to visit me here at dental.

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My naively rate for this home is now cheap, coupled with the added taxes fees of flat rate

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cleaning fees, this pricing deterrence people who are just looking for a cheap place to stay

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for a night from booking.

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Instead I've been able to host families and respectable working professionals.

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I do not wish to profit from this home at the expense of the safety of my neighbors.

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Through my listening strategies and selective process I expect to make just enough from

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for guests, to help recoup some of what I had invested in this home, continue to provide routine

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professional maintenance and cleaning services and safer future renovations that I will need.

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After issuing this letter, I receive a few responses from neighbors, voicing their support

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and appreciation for clarifying my intent. One of those responses came from a neighbor who originally

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wrote a lengthy opposition response to my application. I emphasize the fact that this home is my

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residents because in the short-term rental world this is an important distinction that

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makes a big difference in the quality of guests and how the home and surrounding areas are

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treated by both the older and guests. In terms of street condition, college Avenue is a bit

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narrower than usual and parking can be hard to come by if there are more than two or three

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cars per household. However, this has been a long issue long, this has been an issue long before

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parking than what each of my neighbors and I are already allotted.

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Approving or denying my application will not change or resolve this issue.

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Instead, I would petition for street improvements such as

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driving and curb markings to identify parking locations so that all cars can

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park on the street more efficiently and avoid blocking fire hydrants.

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I would petition for added street signage and speed limits and speed bumps

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to ensure that cars are driving with caution.

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Hopefully, the transient taxes collected from my home can contribute to funding these improvements.

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I'm a civil engineer graduate and construction manager by profession.

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I'm a real estate investor and developer.

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My goal is to enhance my community and not tear it down for quick profits.

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Just like all of you, I have a very strong optimism for the growth of this beautiful city

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and I am always eager to find meaningful solutions and compromise.

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Thank you for your time and consideration.

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Thank you so much.

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We still have part of the key or any one else

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designed to speak on this agenda either may come forward this time.

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Please state your name for the record.

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I was David Gleuth here at 119, 119 College Avenue,

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from one entrepreneur to another, I like the idea,

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just not in our neighborhood.

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That house did not need to be revitalized,

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or there's no big reimagining for that home,

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because that was my aunt and uncle's home,

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which he moved in.

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I think he just stated as being a real estate developer.

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that's what he's doing. So, the parking issue with the kids, pets, the narrowness, yes,

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the fire hydrants, I walk, I do a lot of my cardio, fitness stuff at night, when everybody's

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asleep. I've had so many, I didn't even know what was going on, why so many cars I didn't know

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were coming in the neighborhood, 10, 11, 12, one o'clock in the morning, now I know. So, I'm not

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for this at all, and there's no way we can house it. That home is just a family home. I'm

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sure how that would even be appropriate and we're talking I think on the letter he put in our mail box

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was used 11 times already. So this is sort of coming after the fact asking for forgiveness but there's that

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model this has been planned this is not some by accident thing he knew what he was doing and I had no clue

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I'm not nothing against him but our our neighborhoods is not suitable for that we we are super tight here.

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Well thank you for being let me do this those persons

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those persons for the first speaker who

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before, we'll actually please stand.

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Those he said that was some for it, would you please stand?

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Those of you are opposed, please stand.

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Those of you are opposed, please stand.

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Thank you all for being here.

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Madam, back to you.

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Thank you.

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Hi, I'm Helen Harris, 172 strayed from place.

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Homeowner for 36 and a half years.

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I have most of my street is homeowners and friends,

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and we look after each other.

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They're five single women, right?

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This will circle and we look after each other and I feel one should not be comfortable to have unknown as many as four men I heard coming in and out of the house at night.

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I like to know who's next door to me and I don't go out that much at night but I want to feel safe when I do and come back in.

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I'd like to ask the City Council members if you would like your mother or your sister to live next door to an Airbnb.

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I'm saying this in the instance that it may happen on my street.

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I would not be comfortable.

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And my father was on City Council in the 60 and he helped me get this house 36 and half years ago.

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And I know he would not like me living next door

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where strange people go and in and out.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.

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We're sitting in public here in any one of us.

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Does that speak on this agenda?

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I'd only come forward at this time, please go forward.

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Good evening to you, ma'am.

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Good evening.

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I'm Nancy Sism, reside at 152, 156 College Avenue,

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which next door to the said property.

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I sent all of your emails this weekend.

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Hopefully you got them in red.

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So,

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I have just a normal concerns, a safety matter, the street, emergency vehicles coming

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in, noise, and the fact that this permit people become in any time night or day.

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It's just not what our neighborhood is, and also the decline in our property value.

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I mean people that moved to our neighborhood, they had a golden man moving up

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keeping house that type thing which I'm sure he will do but he's only going to be here

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two years. I'm very much opposed to a business operating such as this within 20

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feet of my house when I look up, look out the door, there's a different face every day.

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I think with motels and hotels I expect with zoning there's quite a bit of difference

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in spacing there and basically this is what we're having.

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Can you imagine running every 18 hours?

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Basically different folks every 18 hours because if it's passed it's 18 hours to 30 days.

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I met Mr McGuire, San McGuire, the middle of May, and at the time he told me he was here with Caesar's project that he would be here about two years and that he would be a way lots of weekends that his home was in Northern Virginia.

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He bought this home as five bedroom home, but he advertised as three bedrooms with the fourth bedroom being his art personal space.

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He's not that does not stay there when he has gearsed.

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Another thing when asked at the last meeting that he won't see extra income that this would generate to help with this mortgage and expenses.

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And frankly, we've all had mortgages to pay.

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So then he said he needed the fourth.

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He was just one person he did not need for bedrooms, but he borrowed it as five bedrooms.

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So, with the city code for short-term rental, there was a guidelines for it.

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The article is so forth, not sure what you call it.

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But according to that, I read it to say no advertising or renting before approval

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that you need a business license, that you have to register with the Commissioner of Revenue.

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Not what the other criteria was.

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But as the system your time is up, but I want to give you 30 more seconds.

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Thank you. The applicant is violation of all of those, because he started running.

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He moved in May 4th and started running Memorial Day weekend.

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And he continued to run it till the middle of June, July 9th.

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off and on, but the last 10 days before we were to plan a commission, it was July 4th

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weekend to July 9th. It was rented.

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Thank you so much for being here. Thank you.

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Thank you. We're still in front of the key in any one of us.

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As I speak on this agenda item, we come forward this time. Please state your name.

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You address for the record. Good evening to you sir.

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Good evening, my name is Ralph Hawkins. I live at 166 College Avenue.

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College Avenue is one of the best streets in the city in my opinion, it's really a great place

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to live. We live in really close proximity to each other on College Avenue, houses are within

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just a few feet of each other as most of the folks have already mentioned. Very few of the residents

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on College Avenue have private driveways and those that do have space for only one vehicle.

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Most college avenue families have at least two cars and we share very limited on street parking.

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The road is narrow and allows for one vehicle to pass through the cars parked on both sides of the street.

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This proximity brings a great blessing in that we can get to know our neighbors really well,

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but it also brings significant challenges.

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And I would suggest that allowing 162 College Avenue a five-bedroom, three-bathroom house in the middle of the block to be established as a short-term rental would be not only inconvenient but also frustrating and dangerous for the current residents.

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I would point out specifically five things that I'd like to ask the Council to consider

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when they evaluate the specific application that we're looking at.

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Number one is property damage.

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As I mentioned, College Avenue is very narrow with room for just one card a pass between

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the cars parked on both sides.

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It's also a two-way street.

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And we moved here in 2012 and residents on the street who have lived there over that time that we've lived there.

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Everyone's aware of the caution that's necessary in navigating college Avenue.

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And in the 11 years we've lived there. We've had four vehicles hit on the street.

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And, excuse me, most of our neighbors have had at least one vehicle hit or sidestewite.

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Just a constant challenge. And so increasing the traffic on the street by having visitors in a short term rental, we're going to have visitors who are distracted, looking for the short term rental. They're new to the area. They're unaware of the tight dimensions on the street. And so I would suggest that the risk of property damage is a big problem.

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Lack of parking has been mentioned by several of the speakers, the residents, in most cases

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have at least two cars and in many cases folks have a shared driveway or no driveway.

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So two or more cars are parked in front of their house.

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There's no extra parking on the street and there's really no way to accommodate the cars

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that a large short-term rental would bring.

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Number three, lack of driving space.

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But the Hawking's your time is up, but I'm going to give you 30 more seconds.

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There's lack of driving space on the street, I've already mentioned, danger to residents and

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children from cars.

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One of our children was actually hit several years ago on the road, but fortunately was

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unheard.

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And then finally I would mention danger to children from anonymous renters, very few of the

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yards have enclosed yards and we have a family with a new baby across the street, a family

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with five children, just up the street, children all up and down the street and having anonymous

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renters.

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Thank you for being here.

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All right.

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We're still in public here and anyone has decided to speak to on this agenda item,

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make

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come forward at this time.

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Why she's coming forward.

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Let me just thank all of you all for being here.

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Everyone for being here tonight.

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Ma'am, good evening to you.

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Please state your name, address or the record.

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Yes.

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Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you tonight.

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My name is Judith Turberville, and I live at 157 College Avenue right across the street from

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the property in question, 162 College Avenue.

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There are several things that concern me about this special use permit, which would change the

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principle use of the home from a primary residence to a short-term rental property.

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I spoke to Ms. Forten who told me that this designation is assigned to the property

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that is to the land not to the property owner. So if the permit is approved and Mr. Samigwell

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decides to sell the property, it will remain a short-term rental property. She also said this designation

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can only be vacated that it's changed if the property is not used as a rental for two years.

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Mr. Sam McWelver had a very nice letter to the neighbors about the property and his intentions

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for it for its use. But the bottom line is that its principle use would be as a short-term rental,

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not as a primary residence. That used changes the nature of the neighborhood. There have been

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and are currently a few long-term rentals on the street, but long-term rentals are different from

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short-term rentals as residents live in the home for more than a few hours or days.

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In an article in the Dambal Register and Beam, Mr. Rick Barker, owner of the Vantage

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Art Flats Airbnb, which is located in a commercial district in the river district, said

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quote, short-term rentals can pose problems in residential areas, if not properly managed and

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regulated, they can have unintended negative impacts within neighborhoods. Airbnb began

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by making available for rent a space, bedroom, basement, or mother-in-law suite.

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Now that the platform is used to rent entire houses, it takes on a different meaning.

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Some streets are not prepared for the density and parking required to support overnight

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lodging in court.

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Our neighborhood is almost 100 years old.

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The street is narrow.

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The houses are closed together and the lot sizes do not meet current housing codes.

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Neighbors are closed this day and parking is a problem for everyone.

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Mr. Samigwell said in his letter that he would emphasize to his renters that there are only two available parking spaces for the property.

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One in the driveway and one on the street.

446
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There is a farhoudron on the property's easement, which limits its street parking.

447
00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:09,800
It is nice to emphasize the available parking, but does not ensure that parking issues won't happen.

448
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:17,300
Another concern I have is that Mr. Samigwell has rented the property prior to approval from the Planning Commission in City Council.

449
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,680
It was rented over Memorial Day weekend.

450
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,480
The Planning Commission meeting on this request was July 10th.

451
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:26,900
The property assisted and has been reviewed on the Airbnb website.

452
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,120
The property may meet the legal requirements for licensing it as a short term rental.

453
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,400
But I know that this neighborhood is not the right place for such rentals.

454
00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:38,900
Therefore, I ask you to deny this application.

455
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,700
Thank you.

456
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,860
Thank you, Mr. Williams.

457
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:44,630
We're still in public here.

458
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:45,050
Anything else?

459
00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:46,150
Does that speak on this agenda?

460
00:34:46,370 --> 00:34:47,090
Please come forward.

461
00:34:47,090 --> 00:34:50,550
States and Amy address with a record and good evening to you, sir.

462
00:34:55,850 --> 00:34:56,490
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

463
00:34:57,030 --> 00:35:00,630
It's tough to follow such an eloquent speaker as a previous lady.

464
00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:04,970
My name is Pierce Torberville and I live at 157 College Avenue.

465
00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:11,170
I was born and raised at 172 College and I house my grandmother built in 1926.

466
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:12,670
I'm a member of my family.

467
00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:15,630
It's been all college Avenue for almost 100 years.

468
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:19,770
This has always been a friendly, quiet, and caring neighbor.

469
00:35:19,770 --> 00:35:26,350
I'm fully invested in this neighborhood, or short-term rental will change all of that.

470
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:31,490
After going off to school at the Air Force Academy of 18, I served an Air Force for over 20 years,

471
00:35:31,810 --> 00:35:36,490
and I came back to Danville in 1990 and bought the house at 157 College Avenue.

472
00:35:36,890 --> 00:35:40,450
My mom, my aging mom, was still at 172 College Avenue.

473
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:44,870
I've paid great neighbors at 162 for 33 years.

474
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:50,870
They take great care and back in their car out of the driveway and not hitting my car, which is a classic.

475
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:58,230
That all changes with the short-term rental.

476
00:35:59,690 --> 00:36:06,450
The new owner cannot assure us that the renters will be upstanding people and not be unruly.

477
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:12,910
There are no fences behind the adjoining property, so noise from that property will be heard to a three-houses down.

478
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:17,670
We've got new babies next door and across the street from this property.

479
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:24,290
A member of the family who previously on that house had no idea what was coming.

480
00:36:24,590 --> 00:36:29,350
I talked to the daughter of the previous owner, her mouth dropped open when I told her,

481
00:36:29,350 --> 00:36:32,790
her house is going to be used for her previous house is going to be used for a short-term

482
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:33,170
room.

483
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:38,830
If any of you accounts, I'm members of the Liberal College Avenue, you would strongly

484
00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:40,870
oppose this request.

485
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:44,610
Do the right thing.

486
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:45,570
Thank you.

487
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:47,010
We want to thank you for being here.

488
00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:51,660
I also want to thank you for being here.

489
00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:52,780
I also thank you for your service.

490
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,760
Good evening, ma'am.

491
00:36:53,760 --> 00:37:18,680
Evening again, my name is Dolores Tate, and while I do not live on college, I live on the street adjacent to that, and a poem comes to mind that I said if I didn't speak out, no one spoke out, no one spoke for me when was my turn.

492
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,400
So what I'm looking out for is for my interest also, even though I don't live on that street,

493
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,500
I don't want it to happen on my street either.

494
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:37,100
So I am very much opposed to the idea of this change happening on college Avenue.

495
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:38,580
Thank you so much for being here, man.

496
00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:46,530
We're still in public here and even when else like to speak on this agenda, I may come forward this time.

497
00:37:50,690 --> 00:37:51,630
Good evening to you, sir.

498
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:02,280
And my name is Doncism, I live at 156 College Avenue, and may sound for me.

499
00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:07,220
We've been living in Danville, my wife, and I for 162 years.

500
00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:10,910
You don't look like what you've been through.

501
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:12,950
Most of it's mad.

502
00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:17,930
But I'd like to start out in kind of change, a piece of it, and take you back for a little

503
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:18,710
history lesson.

504
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:26,350
We received this and noticed on June the 12th for the short term, which was strange to us

505
00:38:26,350 --> 00:38:33,170
At the time, because the person was asking permission for something he was already doing.

506
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:36,170
And so the whole thing turned strange.

507
00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:43,770
We got these forms sent back in the opposition we filled them out, in the comment section

508
00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:45,150
of it.

509
00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:48,970
And I'm not sure anybody ever read them, but we do definitely send them in.

510
00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:56,740
We went to the July 10th meeting that didn't turn out so good for us.

511
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,980
But, strange after that happened, it gets even weirder.

512
00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:07,740
Got a newspaper, we take this thing still from July the 20th.

513
00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:13,540
And then that letter, believe it or not, it quotes a bunch of city people,

514
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:16,720
some want to collect taxes on it, which that's fine.

515
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,520
He has a council member, gave a statement.

516
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,600
But the statement, the stuck in my mind, after we went to that meeting

517
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:30,400
and poured a heart out in that meeting was from the chair of the Dambal Planning Commission.

518
00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:38,800
In that statement, he said he did not care what the public opinion was, that they paid more attention to that.

519
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,180
That statement changed, I don't think it at all.

520
00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:46,760
So they went more about the legal aspect of it.

521
00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:52,200
And so, you know, a cynic would think, well, why do we go to that meeting?

522
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,000
where we just spectators to somebody filling out a bunch of rules

523
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,040
and regulations checking all of the boxes

524
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,300
to make sure they fill within that thing, I don't know.

525
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:06,800
But it would seem to me that if we're going to make a plan

526
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,480
that we would look at what's going on in that neighborhood,

527
00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:14,880
what makes that neighborhood up, what is a make-up of that neighborhood?

528
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,220
And not just throw that out there, well it's legal, here we go.

529
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:33,660
And when I read these things about Airbnb's, I would say it's not a good feeling for me being living next door to one.

530
00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:37,960
And I ask all of you, please just don't do this to our neighborhood.

531
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:39,640
It's just not right place for it.

532
00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:43,290
It's just not the right place.

533
00:40:43,810 --> 00:40:45,250
Thank you, sir, for being here.

534
00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:51,970
We're still in the key or anyone else's desire to speak on this agenda item.

535
00:40:52,090 --> 00:40:52,930
We can afford this time.

536
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:55,170
Anyone else who desires to speak on this agenda item?

537
00:40:55,170 --> 00:40:58,850
come for this time. Good evening to your man. Please state your name. You address for the record.

538
00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:06,050
My name is Haley Walters. I live at 150 Stratford Place. This is the street directly behind

539
00:41:06,050 --> 00:41:12,910
the proposed Airbnb. I've received notice from the Planning Commission about my area where I live.

540
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:20,030
It would also be affected by this proposed short-term rental. I have lived at my residence for over 13 years.

541
00:41:20,030 --> 00:41:27,910
I'm opposed to this short-term rental, and my concerns, pretty much mirror, most of what my neighbors have said.

542
00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:31,570
But one, I'm concerned about the integrity of this neighborhood.

543
00:41:32,350 --> 00:41:40,730
We are a community of families, professionals, and even students as Avery is just literally a stone's throw away from where we all live.

544
00:41:41,370 --> 00:41:46,770
Safety is a major concern, as we will likely already see an increase in crime,

545
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:52,510
and unusual behavior and traffic thanks to the casino literally being in our

546
00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:57,500
backyards. And like others, I'm also concerned about my property values and

547
00:41:58,290 --> 00:42:02,690
with allowing this Airbnb and other short-term rentals would do to our

548
00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:08,270
neighborhood. I see a domino effect where if this has allowed others would then

549
00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:10,430
ensue. Thank you. Thank you Ms. Walt.

550
00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:14,000
We are still in the

551
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,360
Here in anyone else's eyes speaking on this agenda, I didn't make them for this time.

552
00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:20,300
Anyone else's eyes speaking on this agenda, I didn't make them for this time.

553
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,620
Thank you so much.

554
00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:22,660
Good evening to you, sir.

555
00:42:24,460 --> 00:42:25,660
I'm not sure how this works.

556
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,320
I'm a new homeowner, I moved in here in Danville.

557
00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:30,800
Five years ago, my name is Kirk Rusten.

558
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:32,960
I also represent James Hoveus.

559
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,560
We live at 67 Park Avenue, the Lipton Dying, which I have from what I gather.

560
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,980
I miss that part of the hearing, but I still want to speak to the council.

561
00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:48,240
I want to say that he and I who have the own the property out right on Park Avenue,

562
00:42:48,540 --> 00:42:50,260
Lipton Lane, and the third one next to it.

563
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,780
So we have three pieces of property there, backed up onto the house that is going

564
00:42:55,780 --> 00:43:02,400
up for Airbnb short-term rental, we oppose it, James Elvis would be here with me right now,

565
00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:06,220
but he's dealing with health issues, cancer, and a few other things so he couldn't make

566
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:36,200
For the eloquent speakers that I have heard, I want to say I reiterate what they have said about safety, property values, being right next to the school, safety of children, and you know, being a first time home man, remember home owner, first time being here at the DC Center Council, I just want to express, I hope you all do not allow Airbnb to pop up everywhere here in Danville just because in my particular case,

567
00:43:36,220 --> 00:43:43,540
house that was foreclosed in, in August of 2021, a tree fell into the roof. Somebody comes

568
00:43:43,540 --> 00:43:49,500
and it took me to get somebody to fix the house, to get down the trees. There was threatening

569
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:55,860
my property. They still don't take care of the bushes and stuff surrounding that house. And

570
00:43:55,860 --> 00:44:03,240
the care and uptake, and turning it into an Airbnb, I don't think someone is going to take care

571
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:07,240
like a real homeowner, wood and it's a...

572
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,520
Ellen, I'm sorry for never sorry for rambling on, but I just wanted to know that it's

573
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,220
fought at 670 Park Avenue, there are two people there that own three pieces of property

574
00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:22,080
right there that we oppose having an Airbnb from the history of what we've seen already

575
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:27,360
with that damn real being a great wonderful city, I'm from DC, Metro,

576
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:33,460
earlier, my James is from New Orleans, we appreciate the community that's here in Danville,

577
00:44:33,580 --> 00:44:38,860
the smartest, the affordability as well as being close to the University of hospital.

578
00:44:39,340 --> 00:44:44,260
Yeah, and that's what I want to say now, realize it got 43 seconds and thank you for your time.

579
00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:48,300
So you are not, you know, we're not rambling, we are pretty desperate, we're here for, and we appreciate

580
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:52,560
you being here, and thank you for choosing Danville. It's a wonderful city, my friend,

581
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,360
convinced me again. Say it again, say it again, say that first part of it. It's a wonderful

582
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,240
What do you have to do with the wonderful city?

583
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:57,780
Thank you.

584
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,420
Thank you.

585
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:14,480
And far more personal than what you get in DC and what you get in New Orleans. Thank you so much. I love it down here, but I don't want to see. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. We're still in

586
00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:18,450
public hearing. Going once,

587
00:45:25,530 --> 00:45:38,510
we got them. We got them. You're not on mic. So those of you who are viewing and you're not in the chambers. If you're wondering what the young man was asking, he was asking for those persons who were for and

588
00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:42,070
and it was, I can actually tell you there were more people opposed.

589
00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:45,170
If you go back to this, I've served you that I did just a few minutes ago.

590
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:47,390
I axed all those persons and I'll do it again.

591
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:50,730
All persons who afford this project, please stay.

592
00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:53,630
All who are opposed, please stay.

593
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:55,250
All who are opposed, please stay.

594
00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:56,530
That speaks for itself.

595
00:45:56,690 --> 00:45:58,210
Thank you so much to them.

596
00:45:59,190 --> 00:46:02,510
I close the public hearing council before we start asking questions.

597
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:04,310
Remember, we got to get emotional on the floor.

598
00:46:04,810 --> 00:46:06,490
All right, so yeah, that's what I just wanted to clarify.

599
00:46:06,490 --> 00:46:11,650
So we gotta put on the floor before we can put on the fly so don't get mad at me. I'm just putting it on the floor

600
00:46:11,650 --> 00:46:13,430
So we're allowed to get on the floor. So the

601
00:46:14,110 --> 00:46:19,250
Vocalist point for us to have a discussion on this when you hear the motion going on the floor

602
00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:22,990
It doesn't mean that we're voting for or against it but for a cancel

603
00:46:22,990 --> 00:46:27,590
But have a discussion of it we have to put the motion on the floor. Is there such a motion hang with me

604
00:46:27,590 --> 00:46:28,350
I guess

605
00:46:29,610 --> 00:46:30,410
Mayor I

606
00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:32,470
Make a motion to

607
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:38,910
adopted on a screening special use permit application, PZ2300196, filed by

608
00:46:38,910 --> 00:46:44,110
eDric, M, San Miguel, requesting a special use permit to operate a short term rental.

609
00:46:44,430 --> 00:46:53,170
At parts of ID21264162 college drive, in accordance with Article 3E, Section C, item 29.

610
00:46:53,710 --> 00:46:58,850
A second by Councilman Mayo, and once again, Councilman Mayo and Councilman Vogler, they

611
00:46:58,850 --> 00:47:02,950
just asking to put this on the floor so Council can I have a discussion now we

612
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:06,890
in discussion council council council to vote yeah I want to first of all thank

613
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:12,310
all the speakers and and I appreciate Mr. Sam McGill's coming in and given

614
00:47:12,310 --> 00:47:17,390
his side of it as well just to point out the planning commission it was approved

615
00:47:17,390 --> 00:47:21,670
it was three two it was not like the other ones earlier that were five oh it was close

616
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:26,370
I think what you were asking there were 53 notices and now we had 20 we received

617
00:47:26,370 --> 00:47:31,190
back in opposition, which is a high amount as has been pointed out.

618
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:38,490
I understand Mr. San Miguel when he says, you know, he bought the home, he's living in

619
00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:43,430
the home and he's also just running out of rooms for it, but from my understanding, I believe

620
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:49,770
he's just here for a couple years, he's working on the project, he's here by himself, but

621
00:47:49,770 --> 00:47:55,130
bought a five bedroom house, which I understand, it was the place to be right now and it's

622
00:47:55,130 --> 00:48:03,730
a little hard to find a home, but I would think that you could find as a solo individual living

623
00:48:03,730 --> 00:48:06,930
accommodations and there's a five bedroom house. It seems to me like it was bought with the

624
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:09,870
intention of it to be an Airbnb in the first place.

625
00:48:12,310 --> 00:48:15,250
So my concern also not just what is with

626
00:48:15,250 --> 00:48:21,470
the here and now and what it would happen in the two years that he's here but in two years after

627
00:48:21,470 --> 00:48:26,630
that if he's gone two years from now, you're going to have a full blown Airbnb in that neighborhood

628
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:29,850
that doesn't have any kind of local connection or oversight whatsoever.

629
00:48:31,790 --> 00:48:37,790
And for all the reasons that have already been mentioned, look, I'm not anti-airbnb in and

630
00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:42,490
of itself, but I think they have to be in the right locations and the right circumstance

631
00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:44,910
with spacing and all these kinds of things involved.

632
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:49,610
That college neighborhood in area all through there, I love it, it's a great neighborhood,

633
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:50,890
great place for trick or treating.

634
00:48:50,890 --> 00:48:52,710
I don't think it's a great place for Airbnb.

635
00:48:53,050 --> 00:48:54,150
I'm going to vote now.

636
00:48:54,310 --> 00:48:55,410
Vice Mayor?

637
00:48:56,310 --> 00:48:56,550
Vice Mayor?

638
00:48:58,230 --> 00:49:00,970
We'll sort of appreciate Mr. Sam McGill working

639
00:49:00,970 --> 00:49:04,070
coming here and investing in our community.

640
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:07,510
And I'm certainly not opposed to Airbnb in the last six months.

641
00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:10,170
I've stayed in two in different cities and countries.

642
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:13,590
But these were in business areas.

643
00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:15,470
And they turned into mixed use.

644
00:49:15,610 --> 00:49:18,710
In other words, they put a apartment over a business.

645
00:49:19,570 --> 00:49:21,970
And not in a community, not in a neighborhood.

646
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:25,990
And so I certainly support Airbnb's.

647
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:27,310
But this is a tough location,

648
00:49:29,470 --> 00:49:29,890
the parking,

649
00:49:30,310 --> 00:49:31,650
I drove through there the other day.

650
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:33,170
And as you've been pouring out to you,

651
00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:34,530
this is a one-way street.

652
00:49:34,710 --> 00:49:35,810
It's like, good not a one-way bridge.

653
00:49:35,950 --> 00:49:36,410
What do you do?

654
00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:38,250
You have to wait till the other person comes through,

655
00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:40,470
or you play chicken there, you go through,

656
00:49:40,690 --> 00:49:42,490
there's only one car can pass at a time.

657
00:49:43,450 --> 00:49:45,750
But what concerns me the most is, I'm afraid we're going,

658
00:49:46,210 --> 00:49:47,550
if we approve of this, we're going to set a present.

659
00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:54,670
And we allow somebody to do something, and then ask forgiveness later.

660
00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:59,090
And that's not a good precedent to set.

661
00:49:59,790 --> 00:50:02,570
Most communities have regulations like this.

662
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:08,950
So maybe the owner didn't realize you have to go through a process, but most communities

663
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:15,730
and they're facing a very B&Bs, but even before that they knew you have to get a permission

664
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:22,510
zoning has to be approved before you open your facility and this wasn't done in

665
00:50:22,510 --> 00:50:25,530
this case and I'm just afraid of we allow this it's going to open the

666
00:50:25,530 --> 00:50:29,590
floodgates for other businesses other people to do this and then come to

667
00:50:29,590 --> 00:50:33,150
Council later and say hey can we do this we've already done it so I'll have to be

668
00:50:33,150 --> 00:50:38,130
opposed to the Councillor SONDERS. I think I'm a smear. It's always good when

669
00:50:38,130 --> 00:50:45,330
people come to our city to live here to invest here and Dan Bull is a great

670
00:50:45,330 --> 00:50:52,750
city and Danville is growing and housing is an issue that we are trying to address here in

671
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:53,450
our city.

672
00:50:53,950 --> 00:50:57,330
I know I said imagine this staff will work in very hard on that.

673
00:50:57,590 --> 00:51:03,030
So as we move to Danville and invest in Danville and work in Danville, welcome.

674
00:51:03,850 --> 00:51:09,150
At the same time we have people who have been here to help Danville grow like it's growing

675
00:51:09,150 --> 00:51:13,230
now and I think that they deserve some attention respect as well.

676
00:51:13,230 --> 00:51:20,930
So I appreciate new people coming in, I appreciate the investment, and I really appreciate the people of Daniel for a while to make

677
00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:23,110
Dan Bull, what it is today, a great city.

678
00:51:23,330 --> 00:51:23,570
Thank you, Mayor.

679
00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:24,170
Thank you, sir.

680
00:51:24,250 --> 00:51:26,150
I've said often before I call for the vote.

681
00:51:27,830 --> 00:51:34,530
I heard everyone speak, and I've said it quite often in regards to the persons in the community.

682
00:51:35,410 --> 00:51:39,850
And first of all, Mr. Wil, let me thank you so much for choosing Danville.

683
00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:44,450
But one of the things that I've shared, and I've shared it often, and this council has shared it very often.

684
00:51:44,670 --> 00:51:47,530
I've met her, so I want to mention just a few minutes ago in regards to the law.

685
00:51:48,350 --> 00:51:52,750
Well, one of the things that this council believes in, and it is community, and those persons who speak in the community,

686
00:51:53,150 --> 00:51:56,850
you oftentimes tell persons to go to the neighbors, see what the neighbors.

687
00:51:57,330 --> 00:52:03,690
This meeting, if it was me, should it took place somewhere at Avery University, and just heard from everyone,

688
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:14,950
I don't think for me personally, I definitely can't vote for this because the persons I've spoken so eloquently and they care about their community and I think you care about the community and that's why you spoke

689
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:21,230
So I just want to say this to say that thank you so much and to all of those persons who are here

690
00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:29,490
We want to thank you and to the person who spoke and you will seems like you were someone questionable about you went before the planning commission

691
00:52:29,490 --> 00:52:31,710
in the Planning Commission passes on the City Council.

692
00:52:32,090 --> 00:52:34,570
Always know that your City Council is always going to be here for you.

693
00:52:34,570 --> 00:52:36,310
Madam Pric, on their no-called role, please.

694
00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:37,770
Vice-man Miller?

695
00:52:39,610 --> 00:52:40,230
Mr. Saunders?

696
00:52:40,330 --> 00:52:40,610
No.

697
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:41,830
Mr. Bogler?

698
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:42,610
No.

699
00:52:43,010 --> 00:52:43,570
Mr. Whittle?

700
00:52:44,590 --> 00:52:45,130
Mr. Buckner?

701
00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:45,770
No.

702
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:46,770
Reverend Campbell?

703
00:52:47,770 --> 00:52:48,370
Mr. Hood?

704
00:52:48,690 --> 00:52:48,910
No.

705
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:50,030
Mayor Jones?

706
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:50,490
No.

707
00:52:50,770 --> 00:52:51,010
No.

708
00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:58,250
Consideration of a special use permit at 81 as long dry, partial, 5, 0, 0, 0, 5, 6, to allow short-term

709
00:52:58,250 --> 00:53:04,050
As principal use, I open the public here and anyone does not speak on this agenda either may come forward this time

710
00:53:04,510 --> 00:53:11,040
Anyone does not speak on this agenda either may come forward this time. I close the public here in Council and Campbell

711
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,620
This may move for Dr. Ordinance Green special use for mid for application PZ

712
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:19,840
23-0020 file by Martin Luther King

713
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Just in that the question a special use permit operating short term rental at Pouser ID

714
00:53:28,580 --> 00:53:34,260
505505681 Ashland Drive and accordance with Article 3, E Section C, Item 2, 29.

715
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,480
Ms. Bonita, chestnuts, is there second, second by Councilor Mayo, discussion of the motion.

716
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:40,980
Councilman Vogler.

717
00:53:41,420 --> 00:53:44,140
Yeah, I just want to point out for those watching home or in the audience here.

718
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:52,680
So, you know, as I've done to these other ones, this one was approved by Planning Commission 508 notices

719
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:58,820
that were sent out to this surrounding property owners, there was only one in opposition out of

720
00:53:58,820 --> 00:53:59,340
the 58.

721
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:01,940
So thank you.

722
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,900
Man, what are you going to call the world, please?

723
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,240
Mr. Saunders.

724
00:54:04,820 --> 00:54:04,840
Hi.

725
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:05,900
Mr. Voguer.

726
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:06,660
Hi.

727
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:07,520
Mr. Whittle.

728
00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:08,020
Yes.

729
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,120
Mr. Buffner.

730
00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:09,680
I.

731
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Reverend Gamble.

732
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:11,960
Mr. Hood.

733
00:54:12,580 --> 00:54:13,080
Mr. Mayor.

734
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:14,700
Hi.

735
00:54:15,140 --> 00:54:15,900
Mr. Mayor Miller.

736
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,300
Consideration of a special use from it at 1, 4, 5,

737
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:20,260
Benefield Street,

738
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,480
Park Cells, 0, 0, 0, 3, 9, 8,

739
00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:25,880
to allow short-term rental as principal use.

740
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,740
I opened the public here in anyone,

741
00:54:27,940 --> 00:54:30,000
so desire is to speak on this agenda item.

742
00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:31,820
They come for this time, please state your name.

743
00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:33,880
And you had Joshua, the record, good evening to you, man.

744
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:34,460
Good evening.

745
00:54:34,780 --> 00:54:36,260
My name is Charlene Flemens.

746
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,540
I live at 254 Guild for Street.

747
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:42,540
I'm here this evening on behalf of Felix Hamlet,

748
00:54:43,060 --> 00:54:44,720
for short-term, Ronaldette.

749
00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:51,980
Thank you.

750
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,280
Thank you so much for being here tonight.

751
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:56,920
We sit in public here and anyone has to decide to speak on this agenda item may come

752
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:57,640
for this time.

753
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,720
Anyone else who decides to speak on this agenda item may come for this time.

754
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:03,200
I close the public here.

755
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:03,720
Councillor Woodell.

756
00:55:04,540 --> 00:55:05,380
Motion is there.

757
00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:06,600
Second by Councilman.

758
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:07,900
Second by Councilman.

759
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,320
Mayor.

760
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,840
Discussion or the motion.

761
00:55:10,740 --> 00:55:11,960
Madam Clerk of Viewer Caller, please.

762
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:21,960
Mr. Bowler, Mr. Whittle, Mr. Buckner, Reverend Campbell, Mr. Hood, Mayor Jones, Mr. Mayo,

763
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,560
Vice Mayor Miller, Mr. Saunders.

764
00:55:25,420 --> 00:55:29,560
I consider way some of the special use permit for a plan-unit development on Stuart and

765
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,280
Akin Streets.

766
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,520
I hope with the public here in anyone desire to speak on this agenda item may come forward this

767
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,100
time.

768
00:55:35,660 --> 00:55:36,680
Good evening to you, sir.

769
00:55:37,620 --> 00:55:40,460
Good evening Mr. Mayor members of Council and staff.

770
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,460
My name is Stephen Gould.

771
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,060
I'm an attorney with sovillegal representing the applicants for the project this evening.

772
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:56,060
And I just have a brief presentation that I want to pull up for your benefit here.

773
00:55:56,900 --> 00:56:04,440
Just to, as a quick refresher, last year we came before you for an initial presentation and

774
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:13,180
approval for a planned unit development on Stewart Street, that was for 162 market rate units

775
00:56:13,180 --> 00:56:19,340
with high-end finishes, the plan and vision 231 parking spaces that spread across more than

776
00:56:19,340 --> 00:56:20,420
six and a half acres.

777
00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:26,840
And importantly, Resident Access was from West Main Street only, which was something that

778
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,160
generated a significant amount of discussion.

779
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:35,540
And before you is a map of the site plan, as it existed last year, with the proposal that

780
00:56:35,540 --> 00:56:36,120
you approved.

781
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:41,740
As you'll note, on the left there are the parcels that were included in that, especially

782
00:56:41,740 --> 00:56:45,560
use permit for the planned unit development on the right is a site plan.

783
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:51,080
Importantly, that plan only went about two-thirds of the way down the street.

784
00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:54,260
Access, again, was just from Westman for residents.

785
00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:59,540
first responders would have access though from, from Watson Street.

786
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:05,180
Please to share with you tonight that the applicants have acquired additional

787
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:12,260
parcels down Stuart Street toward Watson that have allowed them to expand the

788
00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:16,160
original concept to have it evolve further. And also at the same time we think

789
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:22,040
address some of the concerns that neighbors had brought last year. Before you,

790
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:28,800
Tonight we have a request to amend the approval that you graded last year to incorporate

791
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,100
these new parcels in have an updated development plan.

792
00:57:33,620 --> 00:57:37,620
Highlighted in orange here are the parcels that have been added by the applicant since

793
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:42,760
your approval last year and then there's one parcel that you'll see in blue that has not

794
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,420
been acquired the applicant's hope to acquire it but irrespective of whether it's under

795
00:57:47,420 --> 00:57:50,160
their control it does not affect the plan that's before you tonight.

796
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:57,640
Here is an updated cyclam, you'll see that on the left it runs from West Main all the way

797
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,440
down to Watson Street on the right.

798
00:58:00,740 --> 00:58:07,160
Previously, the plan was spread across six buildings, now that has increased to 11.

799
00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:12,860
Here is a side by side, similar to what you saw before, that shows again on the left.

800
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:19,000
The parcels in question and then on the right, what that plan looks like kind of overlaid

801
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,560
on top of those parcels.

802
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,160
We want to share with you what this project

803
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,960
as an in its updated form looks like by the numbers.

804
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:29,520
There's an increase in units by 33.

805
00:58:29,740 --> 00:58:33,180
It's 20% going from 162 units to 195.

806
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:35,960
The parking has increased significantly,

807
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:39,220
a jump of 62 parking spaces nearly two spaces

808
00:58:39,220 --> 00:58:40,660
for each unit that's added,

809
00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:43,320
that allows the average number of spaces per unit

810
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,780
to increase from 1.4 to 1.5.

811
00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:53,840
City Code requires one space per unit, so we've already exceeding that and now have exceeded

812
00:58:53,840 --> 00:59:01,160
it more. The project footprint has grown by nearly two and a half acres, and at the same

813
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:08,480
time the density of the project has decreased by the addition of those parcels. A couple of

814
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,780
things that I want to highlight, the addition of a second access point for residents we think

815
00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:16,060
is crucial here.

816
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,620
Residents will continue to have primary access from West Main Street, but they will have

817
00:59:20,620 --> 00:59:23,000
gated access from Watson Street.

818
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,600
The applicants are committed to making an investment to place stormwater infrastructure

819
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:29,640
here underground.

820
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:35,400
There have been some concerns raised in the past about drainage on money.

821
00:59:35,620 --> 00:59:39,780
We believe that this will help to address that even more than the original plan from

822
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:40,220
last year.

823
00:59:40,220 --> 00:59:45,800
And also, the applicants have taken to heart feedback that they've received about the design

824
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:51,120
for these structures, making sure that they are complementary to the buildings that exist

825
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:51,720
in the neighborhood.

826
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:58,100
And here you'll see a handful of updated design concepts, so renderings that really incorporate

827
00:59:58,740 --> 00:59:59,660
the brick.

828
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:14,480
A aesthetic that you see in the neighborhood, this is consistent with the materials requirements that the planning department had included in their recommendations last year and carried forward to the recommendation that's before you tonight.

829
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:25,480
Please to share with you that the project continues to have strong support, both from key employers, several of whom you'll hear from, I believe in the next few minutes.

830
01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:38,720
But also from neighbors, you'll see highlighted in green here support from the neighbors who are at the located on the four corners of this development, essentially the two on West Main and then two down on Watson.

831
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:47,940
I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have, but certainly want to give folks a chance to share with you there, thoughts on it.

832
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,000
Let's do that first.

833
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:51,380
Let's see if there are other persons here who want to speak on this item.

834
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,800
Then Stephen, I'll bring you back up.

835
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,320
We're still in public here.

836
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,360
We need one of those.

837
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,360
This is our CEO.

838
01:00:56,580 --> 01:00:57,460
Steve Hedley.

839
01:00:57,700 --> 01:00:58,500
Good evening to you, Steve.

840
01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:02,100
Good to see you all again.

841
01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:06,540
So again, I'm Steve Hedley on the market president for Sova Health.

842
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:13,540
And we enthusiastically support this project, transition housing is a significant need in this

843
01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:13,960
community.

844
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,920
And it can be a rate-limiting factor.

845
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,980
We find that a rate-limiting factor for young professionals who want to come here to work

846
01:01:20,980 --> 01:01:22,420
live and play.

847
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,540
At sobo, let me give you some statistics about our organization.

848
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:32,460
In any given moment, we have 45 to 50 residents in the family practice and internal medicine,

849
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:36,240
all of whom potentially benefit from this type of housing.

850
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:43,840
Every year we have 45 to 53rd and 4th year medical school students who could benefit from this type of housing.

851
01:01:45,140 --> 01:01:51,780
We also have at any given moment, 40 imaging students in our school of health professionals,

852
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:54,780
who could benefit from this type of housing in each year,

853
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,280
we're hiring dozens of young professionals starting their careers

854
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:05,160
or making transitions in their careers last year, that number was about 80, 80 nurses,

855
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:11,060
80 imaging technicians, lab technicians, those types of folks, and projects like this

856
01:02:11,060 --> 01:02:16,140
are a critical part of the thriving community that wants to be attractive to young professionals.

857
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:21,220
So we want these individuals not only to work in our community, but to live in our community.

858
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,300
So service sees this as a critical need in one that would aid in the recruitment of the next generation

859
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:28,180
of the healthcare workforce. Thank you.

860
01:02:28,180 --> 01:02:33,100
Thank you, sir. Thank you. We're sitting in public here, and anyone else, as I speak on this agenda item, I come for this time.

861
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,860
Anyone else, as I speak on this agenda item, I come for this time.

862
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:44,320
This is our CFO from Avery University. Good evening to you. We've got a lot of brass in here tonight.

863
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:45,440
Good evening, sir.

864
01:02:45,900 --> 01:02:52,540
Hi, good evening. My name's Don Ones, I'm the Avery University Chief Financial and Operating Officer.

865
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,860
As the slide suggested, we supported this earlier.

866
01:02:55,860 --> 01:03:09,120
Human Resources is one of the areas that I oversee, and we hear repeatedly that our faculty and staff need affordable, convenient, and quality housing.

867
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,360
This project meets those needs.

868
01:03:11,740 --> 01:03:21,960
As the city prospers, Avery University prospers, and the cities in dire need of affordable quality housing, so I strongly support this project.

869
01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:23,220
Thank you so much, sir.

870
01:03:23,220 --> 01:03:27,740
We're still in public here and anyone has to decide to speak on this agenda item. Please come forward this time

871
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:35,280
Anyone has to decide to speak on this agenda item. Just come forward this time. I close the public here in council. What's your pledge? Councilman Vogler

872
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:42,980
Yes, Mayor. I move. We adopt an ordained screening special use permit application PZ230020 to

873
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:47,380
file by Southern Virginia legal PLLC on

874
01:03:47,380 --> 01:03:54,800
B-half of C-W-C-Hodings L-L-C, Stewart Street Hodings L-L-C, big-time Reynolds L-L-C, and Elizabeth

875
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,760
and Keith Walden, requesting a special use permit for a planned unit development on Stewart

876
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:05,360
and A-C and Streets, in accordance with Article 17, entitled planned unit developments of

877
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,560
Chapter 41 entitled Zoning Ordnance, are the code of the city of Danville, Virginia, to include

878
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:50,020
3, 2, 3, 8, 8, 8, 8, 6, 2, 3, 5, 6, 1, 2, 2, 9, 2, 4, 2, 4, 9, 7, 4, 2, 1, 1, 7, 3,

879
01:04:56,340 --> 01:05:07,500
2, 0,

880
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:37,480
2,5,0,0,7,2,2,4,0,4,4,5, 2,3,9,5,8,2,4,9,8,4,2,5,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

881
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,360
two, five, zero, eight, nine.

882
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,320
Malcolm, I'll let each council member do it all over again.

883
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:43,460
I didn't understand.

884
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:45,460
No, second by councilman, will.

885
01:05:46,340 --> 01:05:47,540
Man, we're going to the discussion.

886
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,900
You won't Stephen back at the podium?

887
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,020
Yes, please.

888
01:05:51,140 --> 01:05:51,240
Stephen.

889
01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:53,560
Stephen, thank you for the presentation.

890
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,140
I think you already covered it, but just real quick.

891
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,120
So again, council, we approved this a year ago.

892
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,740
But I do remember some of the concern at that time was the fact

893
01:06:03,740 --> 01:06:05,160
that it was kind of dead in there.

894
01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:06,500
And it was almost kind of cold to say,

895
01:06:06,500 --> 01:06:11,720
now that's opened up with a gated entry and exit on the back end, which I think a

896
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:16,940
address to concern that there was, even though the project has expanded, it's become

897
01:06:16,940 --> 01:06:20,580
less dense than it was before, so it's a little more spread out, which I think is also

898
01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:21,560
a good thing.

899
01:06:23,380 --> 01:06:28,120
So to me, I think, you know, we certainly, as has been pointed out, we needed this project

900
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:28,780
a year ago.

901
01:06:29,020 --> 01:06:34,460
And the housing crisis here is only grown in the time since, so to me, I think it's the case

902
01:06:34,460 --> 01:06:37,020
of a good project that's gotten even better.

903
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,140
I'm in favor of it.

904
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,080
Thank you.

905
01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:39,540
Dr. Miller.

906
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:40,520
Yeah.

907
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,880
Thank you back about 12 to 14 years.

908
01:06:42,980 --> 01:06:48,720
When we started the student and then later the residency program, at the hospital, we had no

909
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,000
place to lodge these people.

910
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,300
These students and their families.

911
01:06:51,580 --> 01:06:55,160
Literally, we had to call out people that we knew and say, hey, if you got an extra

912
01:06:55,160 --> 01:07:00,280
bedroom, can you take a student for a year, can you rent a place to them?

913
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:05,340
And it was tough, which is no place for the students and people to stay.

914
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,880
It's time we buy the river district and the development out there has alleviated, but

915
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,060
not solve the problem.

916
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:17,120
We still have trouble finding lodging near the hospital.

917
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:24,320
So this is something that's a direly needed, and we welcome it.

918
01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:29,500
Secondly, there were some things I had to have been for the program of the development.

919
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:35,920
I was really concerned about the lack of a second entrance as I mentioned before in New Jersey

920
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:41,520
near Horma, not only for a while they built a lot of cold-to-sac places, we had one way

921
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:46,020
in and out and one of them burned and the people couldn't evacuate and some people got injured

922
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:48,200
because they couldn't get out of the part of the complex.

923
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:53,200
So you've got to have an ingress in an egress for these, and I assume this is a car of the

924
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:53,520
individual.

925
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,820
People who have a car, they can go through the gate to get out, for something like that.

926
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,480
because you need to wake it out and the other problem is we don't do that we're going to

927
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,940
be punta go over again. And a few years the city will have to come up with a back exit to get

928
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:14,520
out of the home development or the development developer didn't put one and it always falls

929
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:20,200
in the lapse of the city to solve the problem. So it's better to solve this problem upfront. There's

930
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:27,800
more parking now. So I got two out of the three things I wanted the third thing out of

931
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:34,940
on West Main, and the traffic stadiums show that, but I can tell you, I avoid going, when

932
01:08:34,940 --> 01:08:41,720
I come from the office up there, I avoid going up that way because you come out on Main Street

933
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:46,360
and look up Main Street toward the west, it's a turkeyshoot, what you're going to get out

934
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:47,140
before you get hit.

935
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:53,480
The cars come fast down Main Street, you can't see, and it's a dangerous intersection now,

936
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,440
and it's going to get worse.

937
01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:57,940
So I assume, sorry, the traffic study didn't show this.

938
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,420
I guess we'll have to wait until what happened at Southwake

939
01:09:01,420 --> 01:09:04,100
and two people get killed, then we'll decide

940
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:05,860
to restate it and put a traffic light in.

941
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:06,960
Where we hope that doesn't happen.

942
01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:10,580
So hopefully that won't happen, but that was my only,

943
01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:12,520
that's my only reservation, but not enough to keep me

944
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,360
from supporting the project.

945
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:15,140
Thank you.

946
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,160
Steve, I want to thank you for your presentation tonight.

947
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,600
If this passes tonight, what's the next steps?

948
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:28,140
Next step will be negotiation of the of a written agreement with the city to allow everything

949
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:33,180
to proceed, but the plan is to move as quickly as possible to have the project open

950
01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:35,620
ideally in the second quarter of 2025.

951
01:09:35,980 --> 01:09:36,180
Fantastic.

952
01:09:36,380 --> 01:09:37,640
Thank you for being here tonight.

953
01:09:37,940 --> 01:09:39,020
Madame Percol, a roll please.

954
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:39,860
Mr. Whittle.

955
01:09:40,940 --> 01:09:41,520
Mr. Buckner.

956
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:42,440
Aye.

957
01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:43,060
Reverend Campbell.

958
01:09:43,820 --> 01:09:44,340
Mr. Hood.

959
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:44,940
Aye.

960
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:45,520
Mayor.

961
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:46,100
Aye.

962
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:51,580
Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor Miller, Mr. Saunders, Mr. Wilbur.

963
01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:56,960
Consider a reason of a more obligation from the seat of Vancouver, Virginia, to American National Bank,

964
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,140
Vice Mayor.

965
01:10:01,780 --> 01:10:03,580
I'm a page here.

966
01:10:04,580 --> 01:10:07,260
I'd like to propose a resolution in authorizing and improving the execution of a more

967
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:11,740
obligation to remain between the City of Downward, Virginia, and American National Bank of Virginia Bank and Corporation.

968
01:10:12,260 --> 01:10:14,280
Second by Councilman Mayo, discussion of the motion.

969
01:10:14,980 --> 01:10:16,320
Madam Clerk of View, we'll call a roll, please.

970
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,660
Mr. Buckner.

971
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:18,040
Hi.

972
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:18,960
Reverend Campbell.

973
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,300
Mr. Hood.

974
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:20,920
Hi.

975
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:21,700
Mayor Jones.

976
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:22,520
Hi.

977
01:10:22,540 --> 01:10:23,100
Mr. Mayor.

978
01:10:23,660 --> 01:10:24,560
Vice Mayor Miller.

979
01:10:25,340 --> 01:10:25,920
Mr. Saunder.

980
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,340
Mr. Bogler.

981
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:27,760
Hi.

982
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:28,560
Mr. Whittle.

983
01:10:29,340 --> 01:10:33,020
Concentration will prove in the updated emergency operations plan.

984
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,200
Councilman Buckner.

985
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:37,520
I'm sorry.

986
01:10:37,540 --> 01:10:38,060
I'm sorry.

987
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:38,260
No.

988
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:38,640
I'm sorry.

989
01:10:39,340 --> 01:10:39,660
I'm sorry.

990
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,280
I'm sorry.

991
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,620
Let me go back. Let me go back. I miss one. I'm sorry.

992
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,720
I'm sorry. I'm considerate some more obligations from the City of Denver, Virginia, to American National Bank.

993
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,700
I think they got it only at twice.

994
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,800
Are we on the J? Two different properties. Two different properties. Two different properties.

995
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:56,700
Two different properties. Okay. Go ahead.

996
01:10:56,900 --> 01:11:02,200
I like to make a motion that we approve a resolution authorizing and approving the execution of a moral obligation,

997
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:09,220
agreement by and between the City of Damaged over a Virginia and American National Bank of Virginia Bank Corporation.

998
01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:13,960
second by Councilman Mayo. Discuss on the motion. Councilman Bogor.

999
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,800
Clark, when their name changes, do we have to re-vote on this or is it just transverse

1000
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:24,460
over? It'll, it'll just transfer over so we will not have to re-vote on this. The only

1001
01:11:24,460 --> 01:11:28,680
time we'll have to re-vote on anything is in five years. These, in five years, these

1002
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,040
will come back up again as part of the refinancing and that, that time you may get.

1003
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:35,960
Thank you.

1004
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,020
Madam Clerk of the Police.

1005
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,120
Reverend Campbell.

1006
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:38,960
Hi.

1007
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:39,980
Mr. Hood.

1008
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:40,440
Hi.

1009
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:41,280
Mayor Jones.

1010
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:41,680
Aye.

1011
01:11:42,020 --> 01:11:42,640
Mr. Mayor.

1012
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,420
Mr. Saunders.

1013
01:11:45,460 --> 01:11:45,740
Hi.

1014
01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:46,720
Mr. Vogler.

1015
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:47,160
Hi.

1016
01:11:47,420 --> 01:11:47,860
Mr. Whittle.

1017
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,060
Just want to be clear, though, it was a cross-clatter-rise loan.

1018
01:11:54,340 --> 01:11:59,240
And it was close to 9 million.

1019
01:12:00,380 --> 01:12:06,860
was, and it's now down significantly less than that. But yes, it's up to $7 per cent with

1020
01:12:06,860 --> 01:12:16,460
a $4 million murder, anyway. But yeah, that was the surprise, but it is across collateralized

1021
01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:20,760
loan. Thank you. Mr. Buckner.

1022
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,760
All right.

1023
01:12:25,380 --> 01:12:28,400
Just to raise the approval of the updated emergency operation plan.

1024
01:12:28,460 --> 01:12:29,420
Councilman Buckner.

1025
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:30,460
I'd like to make a motion.

1026
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,820
We approve that we adopt a resolution of

1027
01:12:33,820 --> 01:12:36,920
Proving an updated emergency operations plan for the city of Dan

1028
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:37,600
Bill Virginia.

1029
01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:39,200
Second of my smear.

1030
01:12:39,340 --> 01:12:40,280
Discussive of the motion.

1031
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:43,060
I would like to pass it on to those of you.

1032
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:44,880
Council members who are ready to read it.

1033
01:12:44,940 --> 01:12:45,940
I mean, happy to pass it on.

1034
01:12:45,980 --> 01:12:46,780
You didn't read it yet?

1035
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,760
Not a clerk called a robo.

1036
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,020
Mr. Hood.

1037
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:51,780
Aye.

1038
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,580
Mayer Jones.

1039
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,320
Aye.

1040
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:54,000
Mr. Mayo.

1041
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:55,660
Vice-mayer Miller.

1042
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,400
We'd be able to type down to read it.

1043
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:58,280
Aye.

1044
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,220
Mr. Saunders.

1045
01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:00,620
Aye.

1046
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:01,480
Mr. Vogue.

1047
01:13:01,980 --> 01:13:02,180
Aye.

1048
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:03,080
Mr. Willle.

1049
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:04,220
Mr. Buckner.

1050
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:06,920
And Audements.

1051
01:13:07,340 --> 01:13:08,160
Consideration of amendment.

1052
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,760
Banvel City Colory Garden.

1053
01:13:09,980 --> 01:13:11,480
Unpermitted Camping.

1054
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:12,000
Councillor Vogue.

1055
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:13,360
Yes, ma'am, move.

1056
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,820
We adopt an ordinance to add section 23-9.1 entitled.

1057
01:13:17,820 --> 01:13:24,720
unpermitted camping on city property the chapter 23 entitled offenses miscellaneous of the code of the city of Danville, Virginia.

1058
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,160
Second, I counsel in Mayo, discuss another motion, counsel in Campbell.

1059
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:34,480
I would like for the city manager if he can go and explain to the citizens of Danville, would this consist of please?

1060
01:13:36,140 --> 01:13:43,400
So, currently under city code, if somebody's, there, well, currently in the city, there are certain places that the city allows camping to occur.

1061
01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:49,460
It's usually within a park, and you have to get a permit to get to be able to camps there.

1062
01:13:49,800 --> 01:14:05,420
Our parks operate usually during daylight hours, and we've experienced a situation where we've noticed people that are camping on public properties, sometimes adjacent to the riverwalk trail, sometimes close by, and it's overnight, which isn't permitted.

1063
01:14:05,420 --> 01:14:08,940
And when they're doing that, technically, they're trespassing.

1064
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:16,320
And the only enforcement measure that we have to prevent that from occurring is to ask the leave and charge them with trespassing.

1065
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:22,480
This, what this ordinance does here is it's actually a little lighter touch.

1066
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:33,000
It provides for first a police officer, somebody to walk up, usually a police officer, to explain to the people that they're not allowed to camp there,

1067
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:38,940
if they're, they're because they're homeless or for whatever reason they're asked to provide information.

1068
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:46,180
The officer provides information to those people about services that they can take advantage of to help whatever situation they're in.

1069
01:14:46,460 --> 01:14:54,620
And then hopefully they comply if not then they can be charged with a misdemeanor which it is a much lesser offense than class four.

1070
01:14:54,620 --> 01:14:59,320
Class four misdemeanor which is a much lesser offense than, and I'm,

1071
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,180
I'm entering a little bit dangerous ground trying to talk about law, so I'll keep looking at Clark to make sure I'm talking, or speaking correctly.

1072
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:21,000
So that's the basics of it. There are other cities in Virginia that have adopted very similar ordinances, I believe, Roanoke and Bristol have adopted them and they've found success in adopting these.

1073
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:26,540
In a conjunction with what we're doing here, which we believe is a lighter touch to dealing with issue.

1074
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:37,940
We're working with various providers to try to come with a plan to assist people who are experiencing homelessness and we're in the midst of that process now.

1075
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:39,900
We work closely with the housing authority.

1076
01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:50,300
We had a meeting today or when I about a plan that they have and a request for funding from the city to help people with immediate needs regarding housing.

1077
01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:55,280
So we're constantly talking to providers about that, and we've adopted a plan.

1078
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,420
There are some recommendations in that plan, which is included in your agenda packet.

1079
01:15:58,860 --> 01:16:06,340
We'll be coming to you later about some of those recommendations to see what Council is willing to do in this area.

1080
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:14,560
This is a very complicated issue, and there's not a cookie cutter approach to how to solve it.

1081
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:23,300
But what I will say is that when it comes to camping and erecting tents on public property,

1082
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,600
it can include all sorts of things and we've all seen if we're watching the National News

1083
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:34,000
where people, some communities are faced with tents that are on sidewalks that are blocking

1084
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:40,140
entrance into businesses can impact those businesses in various ways and not everybody's comfortable

1085
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:45,400
with that. And it can impact the success of businesses. And since we're seeing more and more in that

1086
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:51,760
here in our community, we wanted to be proactive and have some way to deal with it. I'll give

1087
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:58,300
an example of one thing that I was very concerning to me. We learned of folks who were camping underneath

1088
01:16:58,300 --> 01:17:04,560
the Robertson Bridge and lighting fires for camping purposes or whatever, cooking. There are

1089
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:09,200
high pressure gas lines that are underneath the Robertson Bridge. And what we don't want to

1090
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,540
happen is to have a situation and we can't allow people to do that.

1091
01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:17,740
I can't can't underneath the bridge and light fires and potentially cause problems that

1092
01:17:17,740 --> 01:17:20,280
would be pretty catastrophic if got not a hand.

1093
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:27,160
So there's got to be some rules in place and we're going to, you know, we're a compassionate

1094
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:27,480
city.

1095
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,940
We have a police department that operates very carefully with community.

1096
01:17:31,900 --> 01:17:36,300
We're going to try to help people get the services they need, but we do have to establish

1097
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:41,700
some rules for people to go by, and that's what the purpose of this ordinance is.

1098
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:47,460
Can you thank the council, can you very modest, but dam a redevelopment in housing

1099
01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:52,880
authority, CEO Larissa has been working with grants. And I think you need to touch on the funding

1100
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:59,050
because what we are doing is solution driven. We have some solutions also. Working with them.

1101
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,900
Is that correct? That's correct. I mentioned today the meeting that we had with

1102
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:12,440
Laura said housing authority early on I think it would say maybe it was yesterday. My days were going to gather in any event

1103
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:21,580
We you know, we're we are going to come back to council and ask for support for funding to help with some immediate housing needs for folks that are experiencing homelessness

1104
01:18:21,580 --> 01:18:26,020
And we're also looking at other options. So we want to

1105
01:18:26,020 --> 01:18:28,560
We're not going to just turn a blind eye to the issue

1106
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:35,580
We want to help people in our community, they're experiencing hard times in a comprehensive way, but it has to be a balanced approach.

1107
01:18:36,860 --> 01:18:46,400
And the balanced approach means that we can't allow certain things to occur that, frankly, are not helpful to businesses in our community.

1108
01:18:46,780 --> 01:18:47,440
Thank you, Councillor Bucke.

1109
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:57,700
Yeah, Clark or Kenny the one, are we making camping in the public property on public property a crime?

1110
01:18:57,700 --> 01:18:59,980
is it going to be a crime to do so?

1111
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,660
Well, it already technically is.

1112
01:19:02,980 --> 01:19:06,760
What we're doing, is it going to stiffen the crime or make the crime more harsh?

1113
01:19:07,580 --> 01:19:07,840
No, it's...

1114
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,940
Well, we criminalize people for being homeless.

1115
01:19:10,860 --> 01:19:13,440
No, our goal is not to criminalize people for being homeless.

1116
01:19:13,660 --> 01:19:14,880
Our goal is to help people.

1117
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:21,740
And the first step in this process is to provide them with resources that they can take advantage of to help them with whatever

1118
01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:22,960
situation they're dealing with.

1119
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:23,940
But currently,

1120
01:19:26,020 --> 01:19:31,220
if you're camping on property that where it's not allowed, they can be asked to leave.

1121
01:19:31,460 --> 01:19:34,720
And if they don't leave, they can be charged with trespassing, which currently exists.

1122
01:19:35,860 --> 01:19:43,440
Well, that's one of the reasons that I've said it. Sometimes we don't do that on a run, enough.

1123
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:49,960
That's why it's so important to partnerships that we have and with DRHA and others because that part of it,

1124
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:55,840
We are not talking a lot about it, that how we are helping and putting money towards

1125
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,160
having these persons who are less fortunate who come up on some hard times.

1126
01:19:59,300 --> 01:20:00,340
It's all canceled in the global design.

1127
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:01,240
Yes, sir.

1128
01:20:01,380 --> 01:20:01,860
Thank you, Mayor.

1129
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:11,100
First, I want to thank Dave Gluherer for the fantastic email and letter that he sent and well

1130
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,320
thought out in thorough when a lot of great points.

1131
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:22,680
And, you know, this issue has only gotten worse in our city, but it's not unique to Danville.

1132
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:23,820
I agree.

1133
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:24,920
I like we all do.

1134
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,760
We read articles about other cities and issues and things that their local governments

1135
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:29,600
are going through.

1136
01:20:30,580 --> 01:20:36,060
And I think I saw the other day, Charlottesville, their city council, they names that their

1137
01:20:36,060 --> 01:20:43,180
number one priority right now is addressing the rampant homelessness and aggressive panhandling

1138
01:20:43,180 --> 01:20:48,220
all this that's happening in their city, you know, how we had top priorities of education and

1139
01:20:48,220 --> 01:20:53,440
economic development and public safety. There's right now is homelessness. That's how bad it's

1140
01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:58,060
gotten there. And it's happening in other places too. For a number of reasons, the housing market,

1141
01:20:58,260 --> 01:21:04,660
we all know that the cost of housing has gone up quite a bit in the last couple of years. And during

1142
01:21:04,660 --> 01:21:09,620
the pandemic, there was COVID funding. Do help with people with housing and that money is now not

1143
01:21:09,620 --> 01:21:14,280
available, and so the ramifications of that are some of the things that you're seeing with homelessness.

1144
01:21:15,860 --> 01:21:19,480
So I don't know if we're voting on a night as a perfect solution, but I do think it's a step

1145
01:21:19,480 --> 01:21:20,300
in the right direction.

1146
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:22,740
And for us to continue to do nothing is not a solution.

1147
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,040
So what we're voting on a night, I think, will be helpful.

1148
01:21:26,380 --> 01:21:30,980
It will allow folks in our community to feel safer again.

1149
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,120
And I want to be very careful.

1150
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,920
I'm not typecasting people who are currently without a home.

1151
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,920
certainly there are quite a few who are legitimate reasons for why that has happened and

1152
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,200
we are very compassionate and we want to continue to do everything we can to help those

1153
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:53,980
folks, but there's also folks who are beginning to abuse the leniency that is out there and

1154
01:21:53,980 --> 01:21:57,220
again in that letter there was a lot of great examples and I won't go through them all but

1155
01:21:57,220 --> 01:22:01,480
there are in other folks who have brought it up and called me about it and I've witnessed

1156
01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:05,300
some of it too but I mean we've got folks who don't feel safe walking on the riverwalk

1157
01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:10,180
trail anymore, you know, that is a place where families go and walk and they're being harassed

1158
01:22:10,180 --> 01:22:15,020
and threatened by folks who were permanently camping out under bridges and popping out

1159
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:20,140
from behind the orders and all these kinds of things and so with the amount of investments

1160
01:22:20,140 --> 01:22:26,400
that we've had in our city, particularly along these areas, we want folks in our community

1161
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:33,080
to feel safe and so all the tools and resources I think that we can provide to help ensure

1162
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:38,560
that I think we should do and the most fundamental responsibility of a local government in my

1163
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:44,380
opinion is public safety and I think what we're voting on and I will help take steps along

1164
01:22:44,380 --> 01:22:48,040
with other things that the City Manager mentioned to help ensure that so I'll be voting in favor

1165
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:48,460
of this.

1166
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:48,920
Thank you.

1167
01:22:49,180 --> 01:22:49,800
Councillor Mayell.

1168
01:22:50,460 --> 01:22:57,860
Yes, I was wondering from what I'm hearing and I was very, um, fortunate to be in a good

1169
01:22:57,860 --> 01:23:02,420
to be in a meeting, a conference last week, where it addressed to this.

1170
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,420
We know it's a nationwide thing, but in talking with our city, with homelessness,

1171
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:13,380
one thing I'm hearing, and one echo on it, is I know that we want to, we don't want to,

1172
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:19,920
we don't want to put that person in the jeopardy of trying to penalize them harshly, but

1173
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,420
we're trying to get my opportunity to seek the right things that we're offering.

1174
01:23:24,420 --> 01:23:33,660
And in that right there, we must see as well as know of the individuals who are homeless

1175
01:23:33,660 --> 01:23:39,960
is what's causing to be homeless is, and I've learned that is because of a mental health

1176
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:46,420
could be the issue to addiction, what is drug alcohol, but those are some of the things

1177
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:48,640
and just depressing.

1178
01:23:49,940 --> 01:23:54,080
So in the area of what we're doing, and I think I know we're moving to the right direction,

1179
01:23:54,080 --> 01:24:02,100
And we've seen this often, but I also want to take you in the net that know that this is just

1180
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:05,180
some going on to why they're in the situation and we know that.

1181
01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:07,600
So just wanted to share with that right there.

1182
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:13,180
I've gathered that last week in the conference and it was very enlightening.

1183
01:24:13,460 --> 01:24:14,140
Thank you, Councillor Samos.

1184
01:24:15,780 --> 01:24:18,600
But for the grace of God, go on.

1185
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:24,700
We don't know what's going to happen to us before we leave this world.

1186
01:24:25,740 --> 01:24:32,280
I think before watching it, that our city, our city, manager, his staff, residents, about

1187
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:37,180
30s and others, is a caring city, care about people.

1188
01:24:37,660 --> 01:24:45,520
Yes we are growing and that's wonderful, and with growth come I will say opportunities to make

1189
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,560
things even better, especially for people.

1190
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,620
The idea about not camping on the bridges

1191
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:54,860
if the next one idea is also safety idea

1192
01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:56,960
in terms of the gas line for on the SO4.

1193
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,960
You know, the dambo's growth includes, for example,

1194
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:06,140
a $100,000 was given to the house of hope, okay?

1195
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:07,020
Four homeless.

1196
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,560
Also, I'm Mr. Mayor, I think a district of $50,000

1197
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,040
to work on that.

1198
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:24,000
So while we're growing, we're trying to make sure that everyone is taking care of, regardless of their social, social, economic status that they're being taken care of.

1199
01:25:25,180 --> 01:25:42,260
So I'm convinced that we'll do the best we can, we'll do all the weekend to take care of those who have special needs and I anticipate that need increasing and already the city manager and his staff are finding ways to address that.

1200
01:25:42,260 --> 01:25:49,020
So, as we go forward, we're considering everything every move forward, not, you know, one side

1201
01:25:49,020 --> 01:25:54,480
it, we're considering everything, and I think that's a good way to do it, okay?

1202
01:25:54,900 --> 01:25:58,820
And thank you, Mr. Mayor, and thank you, and Mr. Manager, and please, thank you, staff.

1203
01:25:59,260 --> 01:26:01,620
Thank you. Mr. Dietrich is here.

1204
01:26:01,820 --> 01:26:07,660
Leris, I just want to say to you in what you do and in the team what you do and thank you.

1205
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:10,520
As Sherman said, a few minutes ago, these opportunities.

1206
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:15,480
The opportunities that we have is Council and Mayo, Council and Vogue and others are stated,

1207
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:21,680
persons who are faced with all kinds of addictions, mental illness, one of the things I,

1208
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:29,240
and this is tough, one of the things I like about this, it's gearing those persons into those resources that they need.

1209
01:26:30,180 --> 01:26:33,260
That mental health with that will pits of any county community service.

1210
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:38,900
So many times we see those persons that are sitting there and camping in Blue Park and doing the things they're doing.

1211
01:26:38,900 --> 01:26:45,440
We passed by them. They need help. They don't need a dollar. They don't need $5. Because we know

1212
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:51,580
what that's going to do. They need help. That was rich in resources. Very rich in resources.

1213
01:26:52,300 --> 01:26:57,700
But the pride of a person who's heard is Councilman Saunders stated, the pride of a person

1214
01:26:57,700 --> 01:27:04,020
who's heard even a person who's not hurt. One of the things that most people don't want to

1215
01:27:04,020 --> 01:27:09,760
is asked for help. They think they could do it on their own and they can't. And sometimes

1216
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:14,740
our pride, even whether you're homeless or not, even our pride gets in a way of us getting

1217
01:27:14,740 --> 01:27:19,940
the right help that we need. I want to commend you because I know this has been tough. I got

1218
01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:26,680
in calls all day in regards to this. But we have got to do something to gear these individuals

1219
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:32,760
towards the help that we have in our community because that's lots of it. And I want to thank

1220
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,620
you so much for this on it, no doubt I call for the vote.

1221
01:27:34,820 --> 01:27:35,620
Madam chair.

1222
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:36,480
Mayor Jones?

1223
01:27:37,380 --> 01:27:38,120
Mr. Mayor?

1224
01:27:38,220 --> 01:27:38,580
Yes.

1225
01:27:38,940 --> 01:27:39,680
Vice Mayor Miller?

1226
01:27:40,140 --> 01:27:40,340
Aye.

1227
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:41,620
Mr. Saunders?

1228
01:27:41,780 --> 01:27:42,080
Aye.

1229
01:27:42,380 --> 01:27:43,060
Mr. Vogler?

1230
01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:43,680
Aye.

1231
01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:44,580
Mr. Wittl?

1232
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:47,640
Reverend Campbell?

1233
01:27:48,580 --> 01:27:49,120
Mr. Hood?

1234
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:49,540
Aye.

1235
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:50,820
Go ahead and speak sir.

1236
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,420
I must have missed the call for the...

1237
01:27:53,420 --> 01:27:55,260
It wasn't a public ear, but you can speak.

1238
01:27:56,980 --> 01:28:02,740
So I appreciate the incredible amount of

1239
01:28:02,740 --> 01:28:05,640
Just to give you, by the way, my name is Jude Swanson,

1240
01:28:06,460 --> 01:28:08,500
deja vu, nice to see you all again.

1241
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,420
I'm the director for House of Hope,

1242
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:11,940
the region's only homeless shelter,

1243
01:28:12,820 --> 01:28:15,340
and to give you an idea of the gravity of the situation

1244
01:28:15,340 --> 01:28:20,320
that we're looking at in 2021, House of Hope served 140 individuals

1245
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,400
came through our doors.

1246
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,620
In 2022, we served 240.

1247
01:28:25,060 --> 01:28:30,200
In 2023, we're on track for 400 people coming through House of Hope.

1248
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:46,200
And I can tell you from my position as working directly with homeless folks every day is that this ordinance is at best mis timed and at worst ineffective and misdirected.

1249
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:53,840
In my conversations with many business owners downtown, the issue is often a ordering and panhandling.

1250
01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:01,880
And if we take someone's sleeping range and move them elsewhere, that doesn't address that

1251
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,680
issue or address the root causes of why they're there in the first place.

1252
01:29:06,480 --> 01:29:11,620
We were lucky enough that the Sidhive Danville had the forethought to bring in a consultant

1253
01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:18,680
who was an expert in homelessness services, and they took a lot of time and effort into

1254
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:23,540
canvassing the region's resources that are responding to homelessness, including the shelter,

1255
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,840
which I very much appreciated, being invited into that conversation.

1256
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:33,440
Other considerations, not one of them mentioned an ordinance about public camping.

1257
01:29:34,140 --> 01:29:39,280
There was talk of day shelters, there was talk of having it dedicated city employee who

1258
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:44,400
would work exclusively on homelessness, that kind of thing, but not this, and I think

1259
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,600
that there's a reason for that.

1260
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:59,980
If our first step, our first major step, especially a legal step in terms of homelessness addressing, is a punitive measure, that sets a president that I'm afraid is not going to have a positive outcome.

1261
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,440
Welcome. We speak of compassion in the city. I would urge that we continue to follow that up with our actions

1262
01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:17,760
in what we do. And note about our police officers. I've had the pleasure of working with a lot

1263
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:23,140
of folks because they are often first contact with our folks who are experiencing homelessness

1264
01:30:23,140 --> 01:30:28,420
and they do a wonderful job from what I've seen. They are compassionate, they're kind, most

1265
01:30:28,420 --> 01:30:35,700
other patient. This will make our police officers the primary response to homelessness, which

1266
01:30:35,700 --> 01:30:39,900
is not a good use of their resources. It's not a good use of their time. It's not why

1267
01:30:39,900 --> 01:30:44,360
they joined the force was to take people and move their tents elsewhere, and I'm afraid

1268
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:54,600
it might drain that well of compassion, that our good folks are drawing from. Just as a member

1269
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,400
of the Homeless and Services community who directly works with these folks, and since I don't

1270
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,460
see anyone here?

1271
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,240
Your time is up, so I give you 30 more seconds.

1272
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:08,000
Directly experiencing homelessness, I feel that's important that we speak for them.

1273
01:31:08,180 --> 01:31:09,000
Let me ask your question.

1274
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,080
First of all, thank you for what you do.

1275
01:31:11,180 --> 01:31:12,060
Thank you for all the joy.

1276
01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:13,280
We visit it and tour it.

1277
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:18,620
Is there any conversation on a table with you and your board of directors, instead of persons

1278
01:31:18,620 --> 01:31:24,420
having to leave at 7 o'clock, you mentioned a day, is there any conversation with the

1279
01:31:24,420 --> 01:31:27,860
the shelter room, allowing persons to remain throughout the day?

1280
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:33,720
Yeah, there's conversations primarily center around survival, the shelter because we can't operate

1281
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:37,160
at 24-7 facility at House of Hope.

1282
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:42,080
If you have a platform now, when we talked about our partnerships, and those persons who are

1283
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:47,280
concerned, like you stated a few minutes ago, being more of action, what would you present to

1284
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:53,000
our community, how could we help the homeless shelter to be, what would it take for you all to help

1285
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:57,720
to have these persons by operating a day shelter as well as a home result.

1286
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:04,660
Sure. I mean, as far as helping House of Hope, I think the initial realization is that we can't be your answer for everything homelessness.

1287
01:32:05,780 --> 01:32:14,000
So a day shelter would be wonderful. The facility that is currently at House of Hope is just physically not set up to be a day center.

1288
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:26,660
I understand that it seems like it's the most obvious answer, but I think that comes from like a short-sighted approach to that, because it's more than just saying we can't they all just stay in the shelter.

1289
01:32:27,860 --> 01:32:33,480
It's really just a way of saying, can we keep them there so they don't have to be on our streets and then our shops.

1290
01:32:34,300 --> 01:32:36,420
So, a day center would be wonderful.

1291
01:32:36,780 --> 01:32:42,980
That is first and foremost what I think would help a lot with a lot of the homelessness issues

1292
01:32:42,980 --> 01:32:45,460
that we're looking at.

1293
01:32:45,660 --> 01:32:49,620
And that has been what a lot of folks in the West P amount better housing coalition have

1294
01:32:49,620 --> 01:32:52,740
been crying for is a day center.

1295
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:58,900
Just for people who are not necessarily staying at the shelter to have a place go during

1296
01:32:58,900 --> 01:33:04,100
the day where there could be a concentrated focus of resources where they can get some help.

1297
01:33:04,420 --> 01:33:05,120
Councilman Sanders.

1298
01:33:05,620 --> 01:33:06,320
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1299
01:33:06,700 --> 01:33:12,700
Would you say again the numbers, the increase that you've had in Glendale, in the last

1300
01:33:12,700 --> 01:33:13,340
week or three years?

1301
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:22,660
Yeah, so in 2021 we had around 140, sorry, 170, 222 around 240 and on 2023 so far we're on track

1302
01:33:22,660 --> 01:33:25,080
for 400 folks served at the end of the year.

1303
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:35,140
Okay, so clearly the issue is growing and I believe that homeless people, many are just

1304
01:33:35,140 --> 01:33:41,900
down on their lock and being one when your lock can lead to mental illness and mental

1305
01:33:41,900 --> 01:33:42,740
kind of issues.

1306
01:33:43,060 --> 01:33:47,560
And that's certainly having the impact in terms of people finding money houses well, housing.

1307
01:33:48,340 --> 01:33:54,600
And as we try to get people to help, but the mirror is talking about, you know, I appreciate

1308
01:33:54,600 --> 01:34:02,140
police officers being involved and trying to help people, and we have a lot of public parks,

1309
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:11,880
and a lot of people sometimes go into the park, and I've gotten calls money, for example,

1310
01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:17,840
where people were homeless around here, and the parents were afraid for their children to go down

1311
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:23,660
because they go down to the park. And so police department, they're cooperating to helping,

1312
01:34:23,660 --> 01:34:37,000
But I'm just saying that that that problem your number is evidence, the numbers they're growing and I hope we keep on trying to find ways to address it.

1313
01:34:37,480 --> 01:34:48,900
I don't, I don't want to see, you know, a big city where people out there and on the streets and sidewalks and my rabbi, I give them a cup of dollars, I give them a cup of coffee.

1314
01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:52,500
I don't want to see that, and also in terms of prevention.

1315
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,540
So, we're working with the Dan Bell Patts Bank

1316
01:34:55,540 --> 01:34:57,420
and the Services, I'm sure that weren't a partner

1317
01:34:57,420 --> 01:34:58,940
that we're working with as well.

1318
01:34:59,620 --> 01:35:04,040
So, I would encourage all of us, all of us,

1319
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:06,520
to try to help people who have weekend,

1320
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,560
if we have some ideas, please let our authority

1321
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,760
manage your know what the ideas are,

1322
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,720
because you just heard the evidence tonight

1323
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,860
that the problem is escalating.

1324
01:35:17,140 --> 01:35:17,740
Thank you, Ms. Mayor.

1325
01:35:17,740 --> 01:35:19,660
Councilman Wittled in Councilman Vogler?

1326
01:35:20,460 --> 01:35:32,760
Yes, so I thought a pastor Farrell had a day center above your house of hope there.

1327
01:35:32,820 --> 01:35:40,920
He had a church up there which he was kind enough to let some folks the shelter stay at, but I wouldn't call it a day center.

1328
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:49,480
Okay, so it was effective for them to come in and get some training or how does a day shelter work?

1329
01:35:49,500 --> 01:35:55,800
So, a day center operates as a concentrated area of resources for folks experiencing homelessness

1330
01:35:55,800 --> 01:36:00,120
to go to during the day, because the struggle at House of Hope is that we are open when everyone

1331
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:05,680
else is not, which means that when we see our guests, everyone else, that could help them

1332
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:11,240
is at home, and so it's a struggle to connect them with those resources, even though we do have

1333
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:16,060
some wonderful folks that work with us, there are some CHWs here who I think I'm taking up all

1334
01:36:16,060 --> 01:36:24,220
time. Sorry. And we work with DRHA closely. But it's hard to do that outside the bounds of

1335
01:36:24,220 --> 01:36:30,000
the regular 9 to 5 work schedule. So often they have to do it outside that, which is difficult.

1336
01:36:30,860 --> 01:36:36,100
So a day center where to have a concentration or a concentrated place for folks to be,

1337
01:36:36,180 --> 01:36:40,260
where those resources know that they can go to meet them because a lot of our guests either

1338
01:36:40,260 --> 01:36:43,000
don't have phones, or the phone is, you know,

1339
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,000
half of the screen is working because it broke or it doesn't

1340
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,920
have any minutes or that kind of thing.

1341
01:36:49,500 --> 01:36:50,440
So a day center would.

1342
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,320
So one of the visitors do is it seems to be pretty effective

1343
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:58,940
during the day because they could maybe train on a computer

1344
01:36:58,940 --> 01:37:05,100
or they could get some resources at his day shelter.

1345
01:37:05,700 --> 01:37:12,280
at a day center. Yeah, right. So the church that was above the shelter is now a part of the shelter.

1346
01:37:12,740 --> 01:37:21,380
Normus place, it's our, our expansion that the city helped us, helped us get accomplished with a spantastic and is evidence that it was much much needed.

1347
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,200
So that church is no longer there to operate and do that.

1348
01:37:25,220 --> 01:37:30,580
But I will say that a day center would be more than just a few computers and someone who just has a space.

1349
01:37:30,580 --> 01:37:35,840
It has to be a concentrated investment of resources that are directly geared towards homelessness.

1350
01:37:36,540 --> 01:37:47,400
Not a social service is a person who happens to be there two days a week, but has a direct, homelessness focused resource.

1351
01:37:47,700 --> 01:37:49,100
Thank you, I thought you did a great job.

1352
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:49,880
Can I have some of open?

1353
01:37:51,460 --> 01:38:00,560
Yes, first of all, thank you for everything you do and thank you for coming and sharing this information with us.

1354
01:38:01,060 --> 01:38:07,040
I got a couple of questions going back to the mayor's question a few minutes ago then and just so that we all understand

1355
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:11,700
And those who may be watching and I think these are questions we've probably been asked before, but if I can't know we have

1356
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:14,460
So what you're saying is

1357
01:38:14,460 --> 01:38:22,380
That house of hope as it as it is, it's not a matter of you know funding all of the if if you just had more funding all of a sudden

1358
01:38:22,380 --> 01:38:25,940
You could be a 24-hour operation. You're saying that's not the case, right?

1359
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,860
Well, I mean if we had an unlimited amount sure

1360
01:38:28,860 --> 01:38:33,060
but I'm saying, you're saying it's really not structured to be that,

1361
01:38:33,180 --> 01:38:33,920
as what you're saying.

1362
01:38:34,420 --> 01:38:36,340
Right, I mean, we certainly use more funding.

1363
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:39,480
But the way that a day center would be,

1364
01:38:39,620 --> 01:38:41,400
it's a congregation of other resources,

1365
01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:44,800
because House of Hope is a part of the homelessness

1366
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,980
service system, but judging by the fact

1367
01:38:46,980 --> 01:38:48,940
that our WestPemon better housing coalition

1368
01:38:48,940 --> 01:38:51,700
is formed of a multitude of service organizations,

1369
01:38:51,700 --> 01:38:53,980
means that we can't be the only one.

1370
01:38:54,460 --> 01:38:56,780
Well, I appreciate you bringing up the information

1371
01:38:56,780 --> 01:39:03,600
about the day center because I'm very interested in talking more about that and actually trying

1372
01:39:05,260 --> 01:39:10,360
to address and solve the root cause of homeless as not rather, like you said, just trying

1373
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:16,380
to figure out where to move people around and all that. And of course, you know, it's a needed

1374
01:39:16,380 --> 01:39:21,710
service to find places for folks, certainly. But ultimately, I think we all in the goal is to

1375
01:39:22,490 --> 01:39:29,070
lift people up out of that circumstance and so it sounds like the day center is a

1376
01:39:29,070 --> 01:39:33,410
great avenue to help achieve that if I'm here incorrectly. I think it'd be a

1377
01:39:33,410 --> 01:39:37,830
wonderful addition for homeless services in the city. Yeah, would it be helpful

1378
01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:41,890
going back to Councilman Wittl's point, the kind of unofficial one that was

1379
01:39:41,890 --> 01:39:47,990
functioning if it was able to exist in a space very close to your existing

1380
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:50,930
space. Would that be the ideal scenario on the swimming?

1381
01:39:51,190 --> 01:39:56,150
We're trying to distance and proximity is definitely the forefront of when we're thinking

1382
01:39:56,150 --> 01:40:04,910
of day-center operations. So yeah, geographic distance that's close to kind of the homeless

1383
01:40:04,910 --> 01:40:09,290
shelter for the region is definitely important to consider.

1384
01:40:09,290 --> 01:40:18,370
Thank you. My last question. The 400-ish folks who have mentioned more on track for this year.

1385
01:40:19,410 --> 01:40:22,070
And the increase over the last few years.

1386
01:40:22,770 --> 01:40:27,750
Have you or do you have a way of knowing are these folks who have been here locally?

1387
01:40:27,970 --> 01:40:29,690
Are these folks who are coming new to the area?

1388
01:40:29,890 --> 01:40:35,070
A mix of both or what are you kind of seeing in terms of who are these people?

1389
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:36,870
Yeah. Absolutely.

1390
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:45,950
So, three quarters are from either the immediate vicinity or the surrounding area, which we serve because we're the only homeless shelter around right now.

1391
01:40:46,850 --> 01:40:53,210
And then, a quarter of our folks are chronically homeless, which means that they go where the resources are.

1392
01:40:53,710 --> 01:40:57,770
So, they may come through Danville for a bit, they'll say it the shelter for a lot of 30 days.

1393
01:40:58,490 --> 01:41:06,750
And then, either we help them find permanent housing, which is wonderful, and they become a citizen of Danville, or they move on to a different resource and continue there.

1394
01:41:06,750 --> 01:41:13,470
they're journey to hopefully being housed again thank you for the information and that's very helpful for me

1395
01:41:13,470 --> 01:41:17,250
and I'm sure everyone else up here and thank you for all you do.

1396
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:17,750
Councillor Campbell.

1397
01:41:18,450 --> 01:41:23,250
My question just was asked to that I want to know what percentage of them billions

1398
01:41:23,250 --> 01:41:27,610
would say and repas to how do you just answered it.

1399
01:41:28,330 --> 01:41:28,850
Councillor Miller.

1400
01:41:30,690 --> 01:41:36,710
Yeah so I'm certainly sympathetic to the homeless and all of us are we need to solve

1401
01:41:36,710 --> 01:41:41,830
probably can't ignore it any longer. I like the idea of a day center or any other

1402
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:46,030
adhesion come up with. On the other hand, Councils charged with protecting the

1403
01:41:46,030 --> 01:41:51,330
citizens too and you know, so we get a lot of complaints from citizens about the

1404
01:41:51,330 --> 01:41:55,310
homeless. So we certainly don't want this city to turn into a San Francisco where

1405
01:41:55,310 --> 01:42:00,790
they just let us you know, tent cities in parks and they've turned into drug

1406
01:42:00,790 --> 01:42:05,570
cities and so forth and people to stay there all the time and that's not a

1407
01:42:05,570 --> 01:42:12,610
and they've not faced the problem and not tried to help the homeless so we can't allow

1408
01:42:12,610 --> 01:42:13,130
that either.

1409
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:16,850
So we have to balance this as the city council.

1410
01:42:17,390 --> 01:42:23,010
I would say that fears of things that something is city that's many times our size is experiencing

1411
01:42:23,010 --> 01:42:27,330
isn't something that I would benchmark or next moves off of.

1412
01:42:27,970 --> 01:42:35,130
And also I would like to say that someone experiencing homelessness is many, many more times

1413
01:42:35,130 --> 01:42:40,090
likely to be the victim of a violent attack than the perpetrator of a violent attack.

1414
01:42:41,090 --> 01:42:44,230
That's not the perception of the public, and we have to deal with the perception of

1415
01:42:44,230 --> 01:42:44,250
public.

1416
01:42:44,250 --> 01:42:46,810
What I'm trying to say, Council has to balance this.

1417
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:55,010
Council, but Vogue, we have to try to find a solution, we can't ignore it, but we've got to

1418
01:42:55,010 --> 01:42:59,470
find a place for the homeless for the same time, answer the concerns of our other citizens.

1419
01:42:59,810 --> 01:43:05,110
I think the coalition, as we're stated, and we don't want to put you on the spot.

1420
01:43:05,650 --> 01:43:10,610
but I think I concur with everyone else and I'm sure Dr. Miller saying the same thing.

1421
01:43:10,910 --> 01:43:14,090
This is an issue that we have to work together.

1422
01:43:14,090 --> 01:43:16,290
It is a coalition and a coalition that's doing it.

1423
01:43:16,410 --> 01:43:18,910
I mentioned the research, I mentioned the others.

1424
01:43:19,710 --> 01:43:21,930
When you talk about that day camp,

1425
01:43:22,970 --> 01:43:27,030
and when Madison talked about what Reverend Furrow was doing and how effective

1426
01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:31,630
there's so many things that I can say, but we have really together got to tackle this together.

1427
01:43:31,770 --> 01:43:33,230
Dr. Miller back to you. Anything else?

1428
01:43:33,230 --> 01:43:37,950
that's good. Thank you. We open this up because I'm sure I think there was other

1429
01:43:37,950 --> 01:43:41,410
persons who probably want to speak on this. I saw some hands if you want to

1430
01:43:41,410 --> 01:43:45,450
speak on this because this is issue any ideas will be great. Come on forward

1431
01:43:45,450 --> 01:43:48,890
and now let the lady come first. I think she was first.

1432
01:43:51,550 --> 01:43:52,090
Let's take

1433
01:43:52,090 --> 01:43:55,830
give us your name. Jennifer Kennedy I'm one of the community health workers in

1434
01:43:55,830 --> 01:44:01,250
Danville and we deal with all the homelessness. They come straight to us. We would

1435
01:44:01,250 --> 01:44:08,190
work with the House of Jew, we have go in twice a week, just once a week to sit with them

1436
01:44:08,190 --> 01:44:12,930
to go through each client to find out why they homeless, we deal with a lot of people coming

1437
01:44:12,930 --> 01:44:16,050
from jail to going straight to the House hope.

1438
01:44:16,770 --> 01:44:22,330
Our biggest issue as community health workers is we on the ground, we go into homes and we

1439
01:44:22,330 --> 01:44:23,970
are dealing with everybody personally.

1440
01:44:24,850 --> 01:44:30,190
So when we go to, you say you got work of housing thought, when we go into places like this

1441
01:44:30,190 --> 01:44:33,270
and everything is shut down like we can't get,

1442
01:44:33,310 --> 01:44:34,010
we're not getting away.

1443
01:44:34,570 --> 01:44:36,610
But we are the ones out in the streets

1444
01:44:36,610 --> 01:44:39,430
from Caswell, Danville, Pittsburgh,

1445
01:44:39,790 --> 01:44:41,090
and County, we are out there.

1446
01:44:41,650 --> 01:44:44,570
So it'd be a good idea to reach out to us

1447
01:44:44,570 --> 01:44:47,610
because we're going, we're going door to door,

1448
01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:49,230
we're going house house,

1449
01:44:49,250 --> 01:44:51,370
we're right around looking at fake in houses,

1450
01:44:51,670 --> 01:44:52,390
could damn houses.

1451
01:44:52,970 --> 01:44:53,650
It's trying to figure out

1452
01:44:54,910 --> 01:44:57,810
issue a way to resolve this on our end.

1453
01:44:58,470 --> 01:44:59,970
But if y'all got a plane

1454
01:45:00,540 --> 01:45:29,980
And y'all involve us. We're guaranteed to get to cut your house and your homeless in Dan Vedam. It's 10 of us. Well, it's more than 10 of us now, but between the eight of us, I think, got like four 15 now, it started with eight. So we're here, right? West, we're here for, we don't know. We're not excited about y'all new thing, because you were saying there's a lot of not-to-ish

1455
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:32,420
and stuff like that, like it's deeper than that.

1456
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,720
Like, people don't speak out because of judgment.

1457
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,480
We deal with a lot of people because they won't,

1458
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:40,980
they won't ask for help because they are already judged.

1459
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:45,200
So we break that bond between them being judged

1460
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,200
and let them know they got somebody who

1461
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,340
go to the film and who gonna advocate for them.

1462
01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:52,100
So you can reach out to Cassandra Shelter.

1463
01:45:52,300 --> 01:45:53,200
She's the Reach Program.

1464
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:54,480
It was a community health work program

1465
01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:55,700
and it's called Reach Program.

1466
01:45:56,340 --> 01:46:03,240
And, I mean, even to the on section eight vouchers, we get them, they get them, but when we go

1467
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:07,900
looking for them, we bring that out of the milk to help people gather, but we got the homeless people.

1468
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,560
Yeah, I got the milk to help people with housing.

1469
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,920
We got the milk to help people that's homeless.

1470
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:18,020
So it's not a balance in what we're doing and what they are about trying to see them.

1471
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:23,140
So I feel like we need to just come together and put it together so we can see what needs to be done.

1472
01:46:23,140 --> 01:46:30,180
I know everybody's coming together to meet, but nobody's bringing out the people who's on the ground to see what's really going on.

1473
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,740
But thank you so much for being here tonight. Thank you. And thank you for all that you're all doing.

1474
01:46:34,860 --> 01:46:36,720
I thought I'd rather than I think I saw you.

1475
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,280
Reverend First of all, thank you for what you're doing.

1476
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,860
Councilman Willow, I had to concur with him.

1477
01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:48,800
I'll talk about you all the time and to work that you're doing in the community.

1478
01:46:49,140 --> 01:46:50,220
We appreciate you sir.

1479
01:46:51,020 --> 01:46:52,200
We're praise as a Lord.

1480
01:46:52,200 --> 01:47:00,760
Reverend Willis Sparrow, my name was mentioned earlier as being the pastor of the Redemption

1481
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:07,060
Center Church, we were located directly above the House of Hope homeless shelter.

1482
01:47:08,140 --> 01:47:19,820
We were a center, Mr. Sullivan took over as the executive director to House of Hope

1483
01:47:19,820 --> 01:47:24,580
after we had gotten informed that we would be leaving.

1484
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:32,180
So, Mr. Sullivan is not really familiar with the services that we were providing.

1485
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,280
We were a warm in station.

1486
01:47:35,500 --> 01:47:37,860
We were a cool in station.

1487
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:43,760
And we had various facilities that came through our church.

1488
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:49,280
Two to three times a week, mental health was there.

1489
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,380
There were other entities that came through.

1490
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:59,920
We did training for resumes.

1491
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,860
We were resumes for them.

1492
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,420
Help them with resumes.

1493
01:48:04,740 --> 01:48:06,480
The clients at House of Hope.

1494
01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:10,580
As well as jobs searching,

1495
01:48:10,580 --> 01:48:16,260
and we provided transportation for housing and as well as other things.

1496
01:48:16,460 --> 01:48:20,720
We train, we did train on the computers that we had there.

1497
01:48:21,180 --> 01:48:34,940
Right now we have a, we have more space and we are open doing the day for people to come in

1498
01:48:34,940 --> 01:48:47,820
For those type of resources, we never advertise or ask for any resources from the city for what we were doing.

1499
01:48:48,020 --> 01:48:54,920
We were just volunteering and doing what Christians do in the city of Danville, Virginia.

1500
01:48:54,980 --> 01:48:56,780
But we are readily available.

1501
01:48:56,780 --> 01:49:04,940
I will make my contact information available to each of you and anyone else that needs it.

1502
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:15,220
I met Ms. Larissa at an event and we exchanged information, but I'd just like to

1503
01:49:15,220 --> 01:49:22,480
say right now that we are available, and we do have space with that location.

1504
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:25,980
And the location is that 625 Shelton Street.

1505
01:49:26,300 --> 01:49:30,920
We are at the old Hatchett Center building there.

1506
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,140
So reach out to us.

1507
01:49:33,300 --> 01:49:37,720
I'll leave my card and information in the night.

1508
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:38,480
Thank you.

1509
01:49:38,540 --> 01:49:39,340
Thank you for what you do.

1510
01:49:39,580 --> 01:49:40,380
Thank you.

1511
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:46,240
We have one person who wants to speak but not all the whiley is we are now in communications

1512
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:47,000
from visitors.

1513
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:47,420
Councillor.

1514
01:49:48,440 --> 01:49:49,040
I miss one.

1515
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:49,340
Yeah.

1516
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:50,640
I am.

1517
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:51,640
I'm sorry.

1518
01:49:53,060 --> 01:49:55,920
Councilman told him that Councilman Buckner.

1519
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,940
Now I'd like to make a motion that we approve in order to amend the fiscal year 2024 budget

1520
01:49:59,940 --> 01:50:05,820
appropriation ordinance to provide for the proceeds from the sale of utility revenue bonds

1521
01:50:05,820 --> 01:50:08,000
and appropriating the same in this first reading.

1522
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:13,000
Second by Councilman Mayo, first reading, communications, but not the Wally.

1523
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:15,060
Good evening, sir.

1524
01:50:23,480 --> 01:50:29,280
I want to, first of all, thank you all for allowing me to speak tonight at the City Council

1525
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:35,280
And, of course, my name is Bronado Wally, I'm a resident of Pissivani County.

1526
01:50:37,340 --> 01:50:39,100
You need to, you have to wrong meeting.

1527
01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:41,920
Councilor Campbell told me to tell you, you're at the wrong meeting.

1528
01:50:42,220 --> 01:50:45,620
The Pissivani County Board of Supervisors, they need the same time part.

1529
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:48,400
Well, here, take this and go with the Pissivani getting this kid.

1530
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:49,520
You're not going to say anything.

1531
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:50,700
We're not going to say anything.

1532
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:52,280
It's for Danville.

1533
01:50:54,380 --> 01:50:56,000
I actually retired.

1534
01:50:56,440 --> 01:50:58,620
I worked for the Danville Housing Authority.

1535
01:50:58,620 --> 01:51:07,600
I work for campus and community services where for over 25 years for both now I'm a supervisor

1536
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:11,740
for casual county, child protective services.

1537
01:51:12,380 --> 01:51:22,600
So, I'm here tonight, I do have some individuals with me because I'm concerned about the safety

1538
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:30,920
of some children, or children, here in Danville, as it relates to children attending sporting

1539
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:39,140
events and where there are specifically aluminum bleaches that are there.

1540
01:51:40,140 --> 01:51:46,800
So I want to give y'all an example of what happened on July 18th, my wife and I were attended

1541
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:53,400
the Danville Autobots baseball game at Dan Daniels Park and we were sitting in the aluminum

1542
01:51:53,400 --> 01:52:00,640
bleachers on the right side of the stadium about three rolls from the top. We observed a

1543
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:06,380
child who was there. We thought with her mom or sister we didn't know because we didn't

1544
01:52:06,380 --> 01:52:12,140
know the child but my wife she was all children so she asked the child the child was

1545
01:52:12,140 --> 01:52:19,280
they said the child was one year old and said her name was ivory. So as we continue

1546
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:29,320
watching the baseball game my wife started. No, she's gone. She disappeared. She

1547
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:35,580
fell through the bleachers. I noticed the one year old child had fallen through the

1548
01:52:35,580 --> 01:52:40,740
open area between the bleachers. I reacted by going through the area in the bleachers

1549
01:52:40,740 --> 01:52:47,600
the child had fallen. I landed on the concrete on my stomach near where the baby was laying

1550
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:54,900
and observed the child laying seemingly splattered and lifeless. With the arms stretched,

1551
01:52:55,680 --> 01:53:02,780
her face was on one side on the concrete and showing no size signs of breathing or movement.

1552
01:53:03,620 --> 01:53:09,420
The law approached the child, a young lady came up, and I told her to call 911.

1553
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:17,580
She picked up the child, and I later found that she took the child to an emergency care

1554
01:53:17,580 --> 01:53:20,040
personnel at the entrance of the stadium.

1555
01:53:21,860 --> 01:53:26,840
I'm here today to bring attention to what the time is up to take 30 more seconds.

1556
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:32,600
I'm here to bring attention to the Anderson environment that presents a danger to children

1557
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:38,040
regarding the bleachers at Danville, Baseball Stadium, and may present dangers to other

1558
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,840
fields of stadiums in Danville.

1559
01:53:41,020 --> 01:53:46,860
After dealing with the trauma of seeing this child fall, what is a preventable accident,

1560
01:53:48,580 --> 01:53:55,240
then I return to that stadium, I talk with the manager, he told me that the city of Danville

1561
01:53:55,240 --> 01:54:00,180
earned that property and they leased it from them. I measured how far that child fell

1562
01:54:00,180 --> 01:54:07,280
in it was 83 inches. And the area that I went through took five more seconds was only

1563
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:14,440
eight inches. So what I'm asking is for a safety assessment be done throughout the state of

1564
01:54:14,440 --> 01:54:25,220
Danville and that all of the bleachers be checked because I could go through anybody that can't

1565
01:54:25,220 --> 01:54:28,240
that you all can see who I'm representing here today.

1566
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:29,160
Family, please stay

1567
01:54:31,170 --> 01:54:31,890
in.

1568
01:54:31,890 --> 01:54:32,830
And is that the baby?

1569
01:54:33,670 --> 01:54:34,310
How's she doing?

1570
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:39,980
We continue here with Councilman Vogler.

1571
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,340
Yeah, Mr. Wally, thank you for coming and speaking.

1572
01:54:44,820 --> 01:54:46,680
And for the family who is here, I actually,

1573
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,680
I got to, we go to all of my kids,

1574
01:54:49,820 --> 01:54:50,740
and I would go to all the games.

1575
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,740
We got there, that even in a little late,

1576
01:54:52,980 --> 01:54:55,980
and I think that had just occurred when we got there,

1577
01:54:55,980 --> 01:55:00,580
and I'd been wondering what had happened

1578
01:55:00,580 --> 01:55:07,020
in the time since so I'm glad to see that beautiful face back there and but as far as the

1579
01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:11,980
stadium, I know that we brought this up a few months ago something I asked about particularly

1580
01:55:11,980 --> 01:55:18,880
about the stadium. The city manager, we're in the process now of the beginning stages of

1581
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:25,480
significant upgrades of that stadium as a whole, maybe not particularly related to this incident.

1582
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:29,900
It was already kind of in the process of happening but it's a 30-year-old stadium that hasn't

1583
01:55:29,900 --> 01:55:35,780
had largely anything changed to it in those 30 years and so I just wanted to say we're already

1584
01:55:35,780 --> 01:55:42,120
in the process of looking at substantially enhancing that stadium in a number of ways.

1585
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:43,240
So thank you.

1586
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:43,640
Thank you.

1587
01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:44,060
Thank you.

1588
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:45,300
I'll be in another communication.

1589
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:48,000
City manager is going to tell you all about these blue shirts.

1590
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:48,920
City manager?

1591
01:55:49,380 --> 01:55:49,800
Sure.

1592
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:57,460
So thank you, Council for sporting your new visit, so see, Danville, Pizzlevin, the County

1593
01:55:59,300 --> 01:56:07,160
So, many people may be know in the community that Danville and Pennsylvania County now work together to promote tourism and the region.

1594
01:56:07,340 --> 01:56:14,200
We not only promote our city in the county, but we also promote areas around the city and the county where visitors may be coming to our community.

1595
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:24,200
And the tourism division of our economic development and tourism department recently launched the visit soci brand.

1596
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:30,880
and so you'll be seeing more of that, so follow visit so see on Facebook, Instagram, various

1597
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:36,220
other social media platforms, you can learn more about what the cool things that are happening

1598
01:56:36,220 --> 01:56:43,160
in our community where people can come visit and not only see what's new in-dambal that many

1599
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:48,520
people are talking about, but all the existing tourism assets that are throughout our region that

1600
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,560
we've always had and will continue to promote.

1601
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:53,380
You can pick these up at the visitors.

1602
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:55,460
We can pick up stuff at the visitor centers.

1603
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:59,180
It's my understanding that the hats were flying off the shelf.

1604
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,020
At the visitor center, the visitor center.

1605
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,360
So we had reorder more hats from what I was told.

1606
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,560
So apparently there's folks that enjoy the brand.

1607
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:11,400
You can get t-shirts hats very.

1608
01:57:11,500 --> 01:57:15,140
So they're what I guess they call it collateral.

1609
01:57:15,380 --> 01:57:16,720
I don't want sure why they use that term.

1610
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:23,940
But anyway, we'll swag, swag at our visitor center, and you'll get to meet some great folks

1611
01:57:23,940 --> 01:57:29,080
that work there called Travel Counselors, which is a new term as well.

1612
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:34,640
So I'm learning all sorts of things about how tourism is supposed to occur in a day of

1613
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,660
well now that we've put an extra focus on tourism in our area.

1614
01:57:38,980 --> 01:57:40,400
Anything else for you on the community?

1615
01:57:42,500 --> 01:57:46,700
So speaking of the stadium study, we have our kickoff meeting coming up

1616
01:57:46,700 --> 01:57:55,280
But later this month, August 30th, and there's an opportunity if Council members would like to provide input to that process.

1617
01:57:56,120 --> 01:58:02,600
We have some time right now. We really have a short amount of time probably enough for two Council members since you can only have two at a time.

1618
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:10,260
But if you, if there are more than two Council members who are interested in providing input, obviously we're going to listen to folks and we can arrange for more time.

1619
01:58:10,260 --> 01:58:16,400
that on August 30th, 1030 is our first opportunity for council members to provide that input.

1620
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:19,260
And we can send that to anyone else.

1621
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,640
There you go, Councilman Vogler, very good.

1622
01:58:22,740 --> 01:58:28,380
Anybody else is interested in August 30th, 1030, and I'll give you the place that will be meeting.

1623
01:58:28,540 --> 01:58:30,600
Can you give us other dates and we will wait a minute?

1624
01:58:32,060 --> 01:58:37,880
If you want to provide input, certainly we can offer that opportunity.

1625
01:58:39,100 --> 01:58:48,420
And the other thing I wanted to mention is the Virginia Municipal League Conference is in Norfolk, I'm sorry, I'm not from Virginia, so I probably mispronounce that.

1626
01:58:52,120 --> 01:59:02,500
October 8th through the 10th of this year, so in the past we've tried to make sure we can get people signed up, so please, you'll get information out, let us know if you're planning to attend.

1627
01:59:02,500 --> 01:59:11,140
We try to get rooms where the conference is staying and make sure you check those dates and are available.

1628
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,900
We don't want to over-register if we don't have to.

1629
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:22,400
So if you can check the calendars for October 8th through the 10th for the VML Conference and let the staff know.

1630
01:59:22,700 --> 01:59:24,260
Correct? Anything else?

1631
01:59:24,820 --> 01:59:25,610
That's it. Thank you.

1632
01:59:26,540 --> 01:59:27,220
Deputy City Manager.

1633
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:30,060
City Attorney?

1634
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:31,700
Nothing. The seating, Mr. Mayor.

1635
01:59:31,700 --> 01:59:39,600
City Clerk nothing sir roll call please Mr. Mayo. Yes, I'm just just putting that note in it

1636
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,660
But then it's just in meeting tonight and definitely

1637
01:59:44,260 --> 01:59:44,780
In

1638
01:59:45,620 --> 01:59:51,820
Speaking on homelessness, you know, it's not a lot. It's it's a lot you can we can definitely talk about

1639
01:59:51,820 --> 01:59:54,960
And I'm definitely interested if it's about change

1640
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:59,960
If any councilman is being able to be involved because of the work that I've been doing

1641
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,960
Do the past years as well as continuing to do. I wanted to add the fact of, you know, the incarceration

1642
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:17,160
on local jails, who people come out, you know, as an issue also that we have to see along with

1643
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:26,740
the homelessness. But I, I, I, I've thank you for coming up to talk about the shelter. I, I like

1644
02:00:26,740 --> 02:00:33,440
fact of the day soon, but I tell you, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I have a opportunity to see one stop

1645
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:41,900
centers also that people can come at the, and various agencies are there to assist in every way

1646
02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:49,100
they can, you know, that's one of the things that I found that's so successful because when people

1647
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:55,260
can go to there, whether it's for whatever reason, they can get some assistance right away, and

1648
02:00:55,260 --> 02:01:01,840
being on several boards for already and see what the reach program does, as well as all others.

1649
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:05,700
It's very, damn well has a lot of services.

1650
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:12,500
We just, we have to continue to get that out to the people to know what they can get

1651
02:01:12,500 --> 02:01:14,820
and what their services that are available.

1652
02:01:15,620 --> 02:01:22,140
When you're looking at a lot of this agencies from Salvation Army to the PCCA,

1653
02:01:22,140 --> 02:01:29,180
Virginia Care's programs, definitely social services, various churches, definitely spoke

1654
02:01:29,180 --> 02:01:36,180
on his, and what he does, bright view, and I can name others, but I think the education

1655
02:01:36,180 --> 02:01:42,440
part to the citizens is netting and continuing to pull out the scene what's available.

1656
02:01:43,020 --> 02:01:49,780
I get a call every week, mayor, on someone that's in this situation, and right the fact

1657
02:01:49,780 --> 02:01:56,400
had a call today and it's it's it's been very fortunate working with a lot of agencies. I enjoyed

1658
02:01:56,400 --> 02:02:03,780
it's my passion and I know we together will make all things possible for us is that in need

1659
02:02:03,780 --> 02:02:09,360
and we've got to continue to do that and bring out the ideas that that's going to help them. Thank you.

1660
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:15,880
Thank you. Vice-man Miller. Yeah the hospital is mourning a loss for a good man Dr. Johnson

1661
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:19,220
chrome dad recently in orthopedic surgeon, great skill.

1662
02:02:19,380 --> 02:02:24,180
He was a sports medicine, he'd done a fellowship in sports medicine, and he's actually

1663
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:31,360
the physician for avert athletics and for the damsel braves, and, unfortunately, he died

1664
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:35,360
after a long illness, a good man, and he'll be sorely missed.

1665
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:39,200
The utility's commission had a couple of interesting highlights, I'm not going to anything

1666
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:44,620
we went through, but the battery storage project that was started last year, and the first

1667
02:02:44,620 --> 02:02:50,860
If you're a saved animal, $1.2 million of charges, you know, when we have the peak

1668
02:02:50,860 --> 02:02:58,480
shaving, and it takes over when the peak power of UCG is, and if you don't have that,

1669
02:02:58,820 --> 02:03:07,720
then Apple Edge and Mara, the rates are based on the highest rate, the hottest day of the

1670
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:11,320
year of the coldest day of year, and not an average, but the hottest or the coldest.

1671
02:03:11,580 --> 02:03:13,420
So that means the rates are going to be higher for all of us.

1672
02:03:13,420 --> 02:03:18,820
So last year, in the first year, there was an operation, it saved $1.2 million, pretty impressive.

1673
02:03:19,300 --> 02:03:20,460
We're going to need some power.

1674
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:27,400
Some interesting things, Tyson, when they get going, only 10 megivolts of electricity,

1675
02:03:28,220 --> 02:03:33,340
air farms, five, seizures, seven, they're going to be massive power consumers.

1676
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:38,300
So we're going to have to come up with some more energy for all but it's a good thing.

1677
02:03:38,540 --> 02:03:39,540
It's a good thing.

1678
02:03:39,540 --> 02:03:53,380
And finally, we always talk about kids staying around the youth a few years ago, it was a bad storm, and I was going, my wife and I were going to eat it a Mexican restaurant there at Blue Park.

1679
02:03:54,200 --> 02:04:05,160
And on the way, I noticed too, they returned out there at high school, just after high school age, they were walking along, and they got there, they walked from Marshall Terrace, which is quite a hike.

1680
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:11,020
But then the storm hit, and it was a drenching rainfall, so I felt sorry for them, so I

1681
02:04:11,020 --> 02:04:15,140
got to offer you to take them back, and ask them what they did, and they finished high

1682
02:04:15,140 --> 02:04:20,060
school when I'm a G.W., and I said, what are you doing now, you're going to school and you're

1683
02:04:20,060 --> 02:04:24,760
going to school in the dealer's school at Seasers, and two weeks I'll graduate, and I'll be

1684
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:29,520
able to deal six hands with black jacket once, and then make a lot of money.

1685
02:04:29,660 --> 02:04:34,880
So this is a probably a kid that would have gone elsewhere before Seasers came, and now he's

1686
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:41,920
in here because he's got a good, darn good job. That was our plan to keep the young people here.

1687
02:04:42,380 --> 02:04:44,520
Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Sondos.

1688
02:04:44,660 --> 02:04:48,860
Nothing is there. Thank you. Mr. Vogue. You all ready for this? Nothing.

1689
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:50,380
Thank you.

1690
02:04:52,540 --> 02:04:58,140
Mr. Whittle. Yeah, you know, we are the city of churches. So I figured we got 250,

1691
02:04:58,140 --> 02:05:06,780
to your 30s. So if you take two people from each church with the homeless that I shouldn't be that

1692
02:05:06,780 --> 02:05:13,260
big of a burden on it to pick it up. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Buckner. Nothing. Thank you. Thank you.

1693
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:17,420
Reverend Campbell. Mrs. Sosey. That's all I can.

1694
02:05:18,420 --> 02:05:25,760
Reverend Campbell. Nothing. Thank you. Mr. Hood? I want to give a shout out first to the citizens of Danville

1695
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:48,800
Because Dan will have shown that we are a proactive city to where our citizens get involved and our citizens come out and with their concerns and able to come here and present that to us with transparency and to be able to have, you know, not not debates but be able to share people's feelings and concerns and to hear council take it and take it and try to take it in the heart.

1696
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:54,780
a couple people I want to give a shout out to is the RHA staff, Miss Lerissa and Claudia and I

1697
02:05:54,780 --> 02:06:03,140
want to also their staff and board members. Jude from House of Hope, Rev. Ferrell and Mr. Dave again

1698
02:06:03,140 --> 02:06:10,100
for, you know, your intense, extraneous email that gave us all details that we needed from a

1699
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:17,780
concern business owner and citizen. Just the resources and partnership that we talk about is something

1700
02:06:17,780 --> 02:06:23,680
else does very major. I know we speak on homelessness and with the camp and I'll go back

1701
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:30,620
to that for a split second. But if I'm not mistaken, you have to have ID to actually stay

1702
02:06:30,620 --> 02:06:32,980
at the homeless centre. Correct.

1703
02:06:35,180 --> 02:06:37,300
So if I'm out of line, please tell me.

1704
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:42,300
So yeah, it's some form of photo ID and that's just so we can be sure of who's actually

1705
02:06:42,300 --> 02:06:45,080
staying at the shelter. It doesn't have to be stayed issue, it doesn't have to be current.

1706
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,820
It just has to be something from somewhere that has your name and your picture.

1707
02:06:48,820 --> 02:06:54,660
Okay, and maybe I was thinking, you know, as far as people sent up tents that's already prior, it's happening

1708
02:06:55,260 --> 02:07:02,400
We come up with some type of resource to be able to together because I'm sure as a abundant amount without ID

1709
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:07,800
So if we could come up with some type of program to a help of system that could help a system with their resources

1710
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:12,660
Because now we know exactly how to identify them. So it's just different ways that we can go about

1711
02:07:12,660 --> 02:07:18,180
So I'm all on board and I appreciate everything the system staff is doing and everybody with working with this

1712
02:07:18,180 --> 02:07:20,360
inside of moving forward, so that's it.

1713
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:20,720
Thank you.

1714
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:22,060
Thank you.

1715
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:23,000
Thank you.

1716
02:07:23,140 --> 02:07:24,680
We've held you all here long enough.

1717
02:07:25,060 --> 02:07:26,660
Dr. Miller, read us into closed session.

1718
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:27,980
Thank you all for being here, Dr. Miller.

1719
02:07:28,700 --> 02:07:29,160
All right.

1720
02:07:29,300 --> 02:07:31,520
Mr. Mayor, I'm going to move this meeting in the city council.

1721
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:33,720
The city of Downbridge, in the B. Recess, in council meeting.

1722
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:35,620
We can be in a closed meeting for the following purposes.

1723
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,560
The discussion or consideration of a

1724
02:07:40,780 --> 02:07:42,580
disposition, real property for public purpose.

1725
02:07:42,740 --> 02:07:43,120
We're discussion.

1726
02:07:43,140 --> 02:07:43,620
Open meeting.

1727
02:07:43,660 --> 02:07:45,640
We've ever seen back the bargaining position in the city.

1728
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:48,320
permitted subsection of A3 of Section 223,

1729
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:49,360
Sam Wong on the cover unit.

1730
02:07:49,780 --> 02:07:51,700
As a minute, specifically to consider the sale

1731
02:07:51,700 --> 02:07:53,460
of purchase of civic property for use

1732
02:07:53,460 --> 02:07:56,740
by prospective industrial commercial or mixed-use projects

1733
02:07:56,740 --> 02:07:58,480
looking to locate in the city,

1734
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:00,140
and an economic development discussion

1735
02:08:00,140 --> 02:08:03,080
and up there concerning the complexity of business or industry.

1736
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:05,380
We're no previous announcement has been made,

1737
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,000
and expansion of a existing business

1738
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:09,240
or industry, we're no previous announcement would be made.

1739
02:08:09,540 --> 02:08:11,800
We've made about subsection of Section A5,

1740
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:13,700
Section 223, Sam Wong on the cover unit,

1741
02:08:13,700 --> 02:08:18,540
as a man in a more specific considered perspective commercial mixed use hospitality and

1742
02:08:18,540 --> 02:08:21,300
lesser projects considering locating within the city within the region of

1743
02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:23,950
cooperation with the city's region of partners. I think it's all.

1744
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:27,470
Second by Councilman Widow, Madam Clerk called a role police.

1745
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:32,100
Mr. Buckner, Reverend Campbell, Mr. Hood,

1746
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:39,080
Mayor Jones, Mr. Mayo, Vice Mayor Miller, Mr. Saunders, Mr. Vowbore, Mr. Widow.

1747
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:43,620
To all of you here we are in a close meeting. We thank you all so much for being here tonight.

1748
02:08:43,700 --> 02:08:46,060
Thank you so much for visiting your city government.

1749
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:52,480
We accept you drive home safely and thank you for that novel you allow me to read it for

1750
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:53,720
in this long.

1751
02:08:54,940 --> 02:08:55,620
Thank you.