1 00:01:28,780 --> 00:01:41,680 Mr. Bolton, Mr. Ranson, Patrick, Mr. Con, Mr. Jones, Mr. Evans, and Mr. Towns. 2 00:01:46,570 --> 00:01:52,810 Before we begin this afternoon, we want to review with everyone the procedure for public hearing portion of our meeting. 3 00:01:53,330 --> 00:02:00,530 At the beginning of any public hearing portion, the applicant of the agenda item will be allowed 10 minutes to present their case. 4 00:02:00,530 --> 00:02:06,750 Anyone else wishing to speak for or against the agenda item will be allowed five minutes to speak? 5 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:13,670 When everyone has spoken, the applicant will then be allowed an additional five minutes to speak if they so desire. 6 00:02:14,410 --> 00:02:20,610 Throughout the process there may be questions from the commission members, the digital timer here on the podium, 7 00:02:20,970 --> 00:02:23,990 let everyone know if and when your time expires. 8 00:02:28,950 --> 00:02:51,110 We're starting this afternoon under new business special use permit application PZ2600426 found by Kathy Richardson to allow an accessory structure without a primary structure at parcel ID number 74497 located on east on Avenue. 9 00:02:51,230 --> 00:02:54,090 May we have a staff report please. 10 00:02:55,470 --> 00:03:00,950 The applicant is requesting to place a 30-foot by 42-foot metal storage building at Parsel 7. 11 00:03:01,650 --> 00:03:07,410 Excuse me, 7, 4, 4, 9, 7, East-Lon Avenue for storage of construction materials and 12 00:03:07,410 --> 00:03:11,790 accessory structure without a primary structure is permitted by special use permit in the 13 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:13,370 U.R. urban residential zone. 14 00:03:14,170 --> 00:03:19,330 Parsel 7, 4, 4, 9, 7 is a vacant corralot located at the intersection of East-Lon Avenue 15 00:03:19,330 --> 00:03:22,590 and L would Avenue and is owned U.R. urban residential. 16 00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:27,190 The property contains an existing accessory structure near the rear lot line. 17 00:03:27,690 --> 00:03:32,190 The East-Lon Avenue frontage is wooded, and neither East-Lon Avenue nor L would have 18 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:34,170 a new includes carbon gutter improvements. 19 00:03:34,870 --> 00:03:39,370 Both streets are residential and character and are developed primarily for residential uses. 20 00:03:40,650 --> 00:03:45,330 The applicant proposes the construction of a 30-foot by 42-foot metal building for the storage 21 00:03:45,330 --> 00:03:46,550 of construction materials. 22 00:03:47,370 --> 00:03:50,750 While the applicant has indicated that materials would be stored within the building, 23 00:03:50,750 --> 00:03:54,910 The proposed structure and intended use are not compatible with the surrounding residential 24 00:03:54,910 --> 00:03:55,510 neighborhood. 25 00:03:56,110 --> 00:04:00,030 Additionally, approval of the proposed building could facilitate the future expansion of 26 00:04:00,030 --> 00:04:04,850 the use into a construction yard or contractor operation, introducing activities and 27 00:04:04,850 --> 00:04:08,430 materials that are not consistent with the residential character of the area. 28 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:18,000 The presence of an existing accessory structure, combined with the proposed 1,260 square 29 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,440 foot metal building, could create the appearance of a contractor yard or construction operations 30 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,100 within the neighborhood, giving the visibility of the site from two public streets and its 31 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:31,640 location within an established residential area. Staff has that the proposal presents 32 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,560 long-term land use compatibility concerns. 25 notices were mailed to property owners 33 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:43,000 within 300 feet of the subject property. Six opposed and one unopposed responses were received. 34 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,500 Because of the proposed accessory structures and compatibility with the surrounding neighborhood, 35 00:04:48,500 --> 00:05:02,700 Plenix staff recommends denial especially use permit application PZ26-00426 file by Kathy Richardson to allow an accessory structure without a primary structure at parcel 744-97 east-long avenue 36 00:05:04,780 --> 00:05:05,740 Thank you 37 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:10,200 We will now open the public hearing anyone who would like to comment on this agenda item 38 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,820 Please come forward and state your name 39 00:05:18,830 --> 00:05:19,530 Yes sir 40 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:23,810 Michael Bradley 41 00:05:23,810 --> 00:05:24,630 Bradley 42 00:05:24,630 --> 00:05:25,110 Yes. 43 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:31,970 I mean, I was looking at buying the property from the Richardson's and to put the building 44 00:05:31,970 --> 00:05:34,430 in question on that property. 45 00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:40,990 And the only reason that I wouldn't as far as to pay the permit fee and to bring it before 46 00:05:40,990 --> 00:05:46,510 zoning is because right across the street, there is a commercial building already there. 47 00:05:47,070 --> 00:05:51,950 And I figured if they would allow one, I mean, they would, you know, possibly allow another. 48 00:05:52,870 --> 00:06:06,690 This is an example, this is an example of a commercial, like a zoning change, we're not giving you use of it as for a unattached storage facilities. 49 00:06:08,530 --> 00:06:11,970 It still could be considered in residential properties. 50 00:06:15,810 --> 00:06:20,690 So what would be the use of the accessory building? 51 00:06:21,030 --> 00:06:23,730 It would just be for stories of construction materials. 52 00:06:24,490 --> 00:06:25,150 Do you have a contractor? 53 00:06:25,330 --> 00:06:26,510 Yes sir. 54 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,280 Which commercial building are you talking about? 55 00:06:31,460 --> 00:06:32,360 It's already there. 56 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Well, there's just a small like 16 by 30, 20, 30 stores bill in the belongs to the present owners, and they would remove that if 57 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,100 if this was to move forward. 58 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,060 That one is on the original lot with the house though. 59 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,200 There is no house. 60 00:06:51,220 --> 00:06:51,660 No, he's not. 61 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:52,920 It's just vacant lot. 62 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,040 And they, somebody, they don't. 63 00:06:55,460 --> 00:06:56,700 But it's building on that. 64 00:06:57,060 --> 00:06:57,120 Yes. 65 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:07,180 and they said that that would have to be removed and they said it belonged to somebody and they would remove that if this move forward to allow this. 66 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:08,380 How big is that building? 67 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,640 It's 30 foot by 42. 68 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,160 No, I mean the one that's already there. 69 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,600 I think I haven't actually measured it. 70 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:15,560 It was just on the property. 71 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:21,540 I'm more estimate a 20 by 24 or 16 by 24 or something like that. 72 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:22,080 Much more. 73 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:22,820 Yes. 74 00:07:25,770 --> 00:07:26,850 Any other questions, commissions? 75 00:07:26,850 --> 00:07:29,770 It's readily due on any property in that area. 76 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Thank you very much. 77 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:53,000 Anyone else who'd like to speak behalf of this property or this application, please come forward? If not, we will close the public hearing. 78 00:07:54,570 --> 00:08:11,400 I have a question. There's an existing building there, but I wonder if when it was put there, 79 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,660 the zoning was different than what it is now or. 80 00:08:16,780 --> 00:08:25,280 Uh, potentially it could just be a storage for a lawnmower, um, staff had no way of knowing. 81 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,860 We were just aware of the fact that it's located already on the property. 82 00:08:29,020 --> 00:08:34,260 But it, but it was an accessory building without a main building, so I did it ever get approved 83 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:34,920 as such. 84 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,720 It has not gone through the special use permit process, no. 85 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,400 So it was, it might, in fact, be illegal. 86 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:43,600 That is the case, yes. 87 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:52,740 I wrote by there, and the road is so small going down through there, you almost feel like 88 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:56,600 you're on a way yet, for a building this size, 89 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:00,580 that just worries me a lot, 90 00:09:03,780 --> 00:09:03,980 that prove 91 00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:12,580 one that size, I would hate to see it going any residential neighborhood of that size, is my 92 00:09:12,580 --> 00:09:12,920 It's all. 93 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:17,390 Any other comments? 94 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:31,070 Size of the size of the lot itself. 95 00:09:31,810 --> 00:09:33,850 I can take a look into that, give me just a moment. 96 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Question two tenths of an acre, right? 97 00:10:22,210 --> 00:10:26,610 I've got it pulled up, it's just not cooperated somewhere with me. 98 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,980 I've got 1.82, I mean, 0.182 acres. 99 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:48,600 Okay. 100 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:50,320 Yeah. 101 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:09,870 I'm not trucker, I'm not a car, I don't think I could have got by me. 102 00:11:37,020 --> 00:11:37,600 I 103 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,360 don't think the way to the road was concerned was that much of a concern with staff. 104 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,080 No, I was just making a comment. 105 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:57,660 It's just very compact area and that's a mighty big building to look at it here. 106 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:01,420 I agree with staff on this one. 107 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:07,170 I just think it's not compatible with the neighborhood. 108 00:12:09,310 --> 00:12:11,230 And if we're ready for a motion, 109 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:13,270 I'll move that we recommend to now, 110 00:12:13,370 --> 00:12:14,830 a special use permit, 111 00:12:15,070 --> 00:12:16,590 ending in 0046. 112 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:19,160 Second. 113 00:12:21,820 --> 00:12:24,920 We have a motion by Commissioner Bolton in a second, 114 00:12:26,260 --> 00:12:29,520 by Commissioner Ransson. 115 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Sorry. 116 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:45,480 That we deny special use permit application, PZ2600426, because the proposed accessory structures 117 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:51,140 in compatibility with surrounding neighborhood, so you further discussion of the motion. 118 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:56,270 If not, Madam Clerk, would you call the roll please? 119 00:12:56,770 --> 00:12:57,470 Mr. Klein? 120 00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:57,930 No. 121 00:13:00,460 --> 00:13:00,600 Patrick? 122 00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:01,140 Yes. 123 00:13:03,380 --> 00:13:04,140 Yes. 124 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:06,440 Yes. 125 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:15,240 Motion has been adopted, did not deny special use permit application PZ2600426. 126 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,040 It will be forwarded to City Council for further consideration that there are October 127 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,080 6 meeting. 128 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:39,560 The second item this afternoon under new business application PZ2600435 requesting an amendment to the 129 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:48,060 Donning map, affecting a portion of parcel, ID number 51359 at 102 North, Woodbury Avenue. 130 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:56,640 From you are a urban residential to HB highway business filed by BirdLLC. 131 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,000 We have a Stanford port, please. 132 00:13:59,740 --> 00:14:05,800 Yeah, applicant request to rezone approximately 0.182 acres from the north eastern portion 133 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:13,380 of parcel 51359102 Northwoodbury Avenue from U.R. urban residential zone to HB Highway 134 00:14:13,380 --> 00:14:14,240 Business Zone. 135 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:21,340 The request is necessary to facilitate a lot of management between parcel 51359 and the 136 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:26,420 adjacent parcel 513240570 Piney Forest Road. 137 00:14:27,060 --> 00:14:32,020 The two lots currently have different zoning classifications, consolidation may not occur 138 00:14:32,020 --> 00:14:36,100 with differing classifications. With the approval of the request to 139 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:42,540 Resone from UR to HB, the 0.182 acres will be consolidated with 140 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:48,060 parcel 53240, which is currently zone HB and occupied by Ramsi 141 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:52,080 Yates and Associates Realtors. The subdivision and consolidation will 142 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:58,900 result in two conforming lots, parcel 53240, 570 Pony Forest Road, with 143 00:14:58,900 --> 00:14:59,740 0.6. 144 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:15,420 111 acres, and parcel 51359, with 0.242 acres. 32 notices were mailed to property owners within 300 feet of the subject property, one opposed and five unopposed responses were received. 145 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:25,340 Planning staff recommends approval of PZ26-00435 and amendment to the official zoning map affecting 146 00:15:25,340 --> 00:15:34,680 a 0.182 acre portion of parcel 51359102 Northwoodbury Avenue to resolve the property 147 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,920 from UR urban residential to HB highway business. 148 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:40,920 Thank you. 149 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:46,240 We are now open to public hearing anyone who would like to comment on this agenda item please 150 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,880 to come forward, stay true to your name. 151 00:15:59,410 --> 00:16:01,630 My wife and I, Becky Yates, I'm Ramsey Yates, 152 00:16:01,890 --> 00:16:06,270 I'm Bird LLC, and we have an office building there 153 00:16:06,270 --> 00:16:08,310 at 570 Piney Forest Road. 154 00:16:09,730 --> 00:16:13,350 We are attempting to more or less square off the lot there 155 00:16:14,670 --> 00:16:16,490 for just future sale. 156 00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:18,750 We don't really have any use 157 00:16:18,750 --> 00:16:21,230 for the extra lot at this point in time. 158 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:23,010 The lot does kind of come up 159 00:16:23,010 --> 00:16:26,770 and almost touch a fence that's right behind our building. 160 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:29,890 And so that's one of the reasons why we're 161 00:16:29,890 --> 00:16:31,310 requesting the rezoning. 162 00:16:37,130 --> 00:16:38,170 Mr. Zinnick, question? 163 00:16:39,330 --> 00:16:43,110 You just intend to incorporate that in with a lot already existing. 164 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,100 Survey has been preliminary survey. 165 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,700 It's been performed by Crane and Survey, 166 00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:54,400 which also not only identified our lot going to 0.67, 167 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,240 but it also identified the lot that we're taking from 168 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,820 on the corner there on Northwoodbury. 169 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:05,480 I believe that ends up being about 0.242, which should be... 170 00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:10,940 Certainly, even things up a bit, doesn't it? 171 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,540 I'm sorry, I may not have been listening. 172 00:17:16,180 --> 00:17:19,860 Did you mention what your intentions are, would you use the extra parking? 173 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Well, we also acquired a piece of property on Piney Forest Road several years ago 174 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:35,500 that we combined in, because that property was not being maintained in good shapes. 175 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:41,700 I contacted the property owner in order to purchase that and then raise the building. 176 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,780 And we've made that into a gravel parking lot. 177 00:17:45,260 --> 00:17:51,180 So we really have adequate parking there with the asphalt that we have in our front parking 178 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:53,100 lot as well as the gravel next door. 179 00:17:53,100 --> 00:18:00,420 So, this is just an opportunity by knowing the property owner that has a house on North 180 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:00,940 Woodbury. 181 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:07,700 We've had conversations over the last few years about acquiring some of that to, again, 182 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:12,960 square off the property, but also leave plenty of yard space for the North Woodbury 183 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,060 residential property. 184 00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:18,320 So we don't have any current plans. 185 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:27,900 It's probably something, you know, long term, if we sell the property, it probably helps with the marketability of it to have a slightly bigger lot with more depth to it. 186 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:30,960 Thank you, Mr. Yates. 187 00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:33,420 Thank you. 188 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Anyone else like to come forward and speak in favor or against this particular item? 189 00:18:39,860 --> 00:18:41,800 If not, we will close the public hearing. 190 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,940 Commissioners, do you have any questions, comments to make? 191 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:54,640 Just to comment, I've never seen two lots that he'll drawn up in my life. 192 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:57,360 I think squaring it up makes perfect sense. 193 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,720 Yeah, I would move. 194 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:06,040 We recommend approval of amendment to the zoning map. 195 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,700 Ending in zero zero four or three five. 196 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,220 Motion has been made by Commissioner Bolton. 197 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,360 Do I hear a second? 198 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:23,460 Second, have a second by Commissioner Con, that we approve application PC 2600435 requesting 199 00:19:23,460 --> 00:19:29,840 an amendment to the zoning map affecting a portion of parts of ID number 1, 3, 5, 1, 200 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:37,780 3, 5, 9, 102 northwardberry avenue from urban residential to highway business found by 201 00:19:37,780 --> 00:19:41,220 bird LLCs, and you further discussion of the motion. 202 00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:44,300 If not, Madam Clerk, would you call the roll please? 203 00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:45,840 Mr. Ranssen? 204 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Yes. 205 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:47,920 Mr. Kahn? 206 00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:48,560 Yes. 207 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,160 Mr. Patrick? 208 00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:49,780 Yes. 209 00:19:50,020 --> 00:19:51,020 Mr. Bolton? Yes. 210 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,880 Motion has been adopted to approve application, 211 00:19:56,260 --> 00:19:56,820 PC2600435. 212 00:19:57,140 --> 00:19:58,840 It will be forwarded to City Council 213 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,120 for further consideration 214 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:03,520 at their October 6 meeting. 215 00:20:09,140 --> 00:20:11,400 Is there a planning director's report this afternoon? 216 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:13,780 Very brief one. 217 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:23,280 We do expect the meeting next month, we have so far one application with the deadline on the 15th. 218 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Okay. 219 00:20:25,620 --> 00:20:27,500 And that's it. 220 00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:27,840 Fuck. 221 00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:28,860 Think. 222 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,260 I probably won't pay attention. 223 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:34,320 That's Columbus Day on Monday. You probably mentioned that. 224 00:20:34,460 --> 00:20:38,440 But are we meeting on that Monday or is it like Labor Day and we're going to meet on Tuesday? 225 00:20:39,340 --> 00:20:42,740 If it's a Monday holiday, we'll meet on Tuesday. 226 00:20:42,740 --> 00:20:47,200 I don't know if I can have the Tuesday mark your calendars accordingly. 227 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:52,250 Does any other business we need to discuss this after? 228 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,140 If not the minutes from the August 10th meeting have been distributed, does anyone have any changes 229 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:00,600 or corrections to be made? 230 00:21:02,140 --> 00:21:09,960 If not all in favour of approval say aye, I suppose no, August 10th meetings, minutes have been 231 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,140 approved, is any further business to discuss? 232 00:21:14,420 --> 00:21:17,520 Since there's no further business this meeting is adjourned.