1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:09,200 I'd like to call the Finance Committee meeting to order on September 17th. Please join me for the pledge of 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,780 allegiance. 3 00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:22,460 I would like the United States America to develop all the territories in one nation, under God into Israel, to live in justice for all. 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,240 The police note that this meeting is in person, but it is being recorded. 5 00:00:34,590 --> 00:00:37,850 It had a big night ahead of us, warrant article review. 6 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:43,570 So, as we go through, Madam Chair, we have the one articles that we can do, the majority of them, I think tonight, 7 00:00:43,570 --> 00:00:47,090 to make me a couple that we have to wait till next week, especially the capital where they're meeting. 8 00:00:47,550 --> 00:00:51,970 On next Wednesday to finalize the request from the departments, I invited Buddy Baker Smith 9 00:00:51,970 --> 00:00:55,990 come in and talk about Article 1 and he's here if we want to start. 10 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:57,430 Of course. 11 00:00:58,150 --> 00:00:59,550 I want to join us, Buddy. 12 00:00:59,790 --> 00:01:01,290 Thank you for taking the time. 13 00:01:06,030 --> 00:01:06,990 Thank you. 14 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:14,750 We have one CPC is bringing forward one article for the October town meeting, which is 15 00:01:14,750 --> 00:01:23,370 recommendation for town meeting to approve $1 million in CPA funds for the 16 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:32,530 past-commanded Valley Conservation Project. And that is the project will be to 17 00:01:33,130 --> 00:01:41,370 preserve put under conservation restriction about 29 acres. The property that's 18 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:47,350 I think we typically refer to as a Hawthorne Country Club property. 19 00:01:48,350 --> 00:01:54,750 This is a joint application from the town of Dartmouth, and the buzzer-based coal-lition 20 00:01:56,030 --> 00:02:06,450 buzzers-based proposing to purchase that parcel, and that CPA funds are to go to the town 21 00:02:06,450 --> 00:02:15,330 Dartmouth to purchase the conservation restriction on that piece of property and a couple 22 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:20,370 of things. We've had a review. We've asked some questions and got responses. There are a couple 23 00:02:20,370 --> 00:02:27,590 of things that are outstanding, but the main thing is they're in the process of getting 24 00:02:27,590 --> 00:02:30,710 an appraisal of that parcel. 25 00:02:32,890 --> 00:02:36,210 What the value of the conservation restriction will be on that 26 00:02:36,210 --> 00:02:46,230 So, it's one of the things that we look at because the amount of CPF funds should not exceed the 27 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:48,850 the appraised value of the conservation restriction. 28 00:02:49,390 --> 00:02:54,510 So, that work is underway and expected to be done well before town meeting. 29 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:59,830 So, let me stop there and please, there are questions. 30 00:03:01,170 --> 00:03:14,370 Yeah, of course this was this is part of the area that I guess would be the inside the proposed 31 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:15,710 conservation. 32 00:03:17,890 --> 00:03:22,110 That was going to be developed for those 65 housing units, I'm not mistaken, okay. 33 00:03:22,570 --> 00:03:29,210 Now, he been working with the developer as far as mapping out the restricted lands and 34 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:32,530 what he's going to be doing in the summer area there too, 35 00:03:33,550 --> 00:03:37,030 that I'll feel you familiar with that are really wetlands 36 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:38,790 and what you guys are advocating, 37 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:42,410 recreational paths and all that. 38 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:45,670 And I probably have two questions. 39 00:03:45,790 --> 00:03:47,270 I guess you've been working with the developer. 40 00:03:47,730 --> 00:03:49,750 And secondly, what are you going to do with these lands 41 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:52,850 that may not be either buildable or used 42 00:03:52,850 --> 00:03:56,650 to refuse or recreation or what are your planning plans 43 00:03:56,650 --> 00:03:57,790 on that going forward? 44 00:03:57,790 --> 00:04:27,390 Well, I just had clarifies, so the town has been the one in conversation with the developer, the current owner and the person, the developer that's interested in acquiring the property, so the CPC hasn't been involved in any of those conversations, so what was presented to us is the plan would be for another developer to purchase the property. 45 00:04:28,190 --> 00:04:36,770 It would need to be subdivided so that the back part of the property, the 29 acres, 46 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:45,910 that a bunch of the Pascemans River would be under a conservation restriction, 47 00:04:46,590 --> 00:04:51,730 and then the remaining part of the current parcel would be developed by the new owner. 48 00:04:52,570 --> 00:05:08,630 And as we understood it, that would result in a reduction in the number of units that would be located in that area as the current proposal, I think that the town has seen from the current owner would have built on all of that land. 49 00:05:08,630 --> 00:05:16,330 And so I think one of the things that was, particularly, I think, several members of the CPC commented on it. 50 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:23,370 It's just, this seems to be a very positive use to the CPA fund, protects some land. 51 00:05:24,210 --> 00:05:36,830 Certainly, along the, about the aquifers, the town wells, as well as come up with a more reasonable, 52 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:43,490 size development for that site that seems to be more in line with what the 53 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:50,510 community and a butters kind of where we're hoping for. So, that's saying some 54 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:57,950 of those 29 acres would be in over to a sold-to-developer. No, those 29 55 00:05:57,950 --> 00:06:02,910 acres would be that we're talking about here and this article or the ones that 56 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:08,890 would be, ultimately, under a conservation restriction. 57 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:12,870 With the, excuse me, with the parcel being owned by 58 00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:17,530 the Southern Bay Coalition, and there would be no 59 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:19,790 development. There would be passive recreation, 60 00:06:22,350 --> 00:06:23,730 the new 61 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:29,990 developer, the remaining parcel that can be developed, would 62 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:33,550 provide access to the conservation area? 63 00:06:33,730 --> 00:06:34,090 No, I see. 64 00:06:34,690 --> 00:06:37,950 So that's outside of the 20, because there's a lot of more. 65 00:06:38,350 --> 00:06:39,410 Yeah, there's no possible. 66 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:41,990 Yes, outside of the 29 acres. 67 00:06:42,910 --> 00:06:43,430 No, I understand. 68 00:06:43,790 --> 00:06:43,950 Thank you. 69 00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:46,050 So I was just looking at the map. 70 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:46,670 It looks like this. 71 00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:47,310 Two parcels. 72 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:51,910 One is in the buildable areas where the country cliff was. 73 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:53,090 It looks like so. 74 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:53,590 Yeah. 75 00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:59,130 I think the parcel has to be subdivided, so I think what you see is that the illustration 76 00:06:59,130 --> 00:07:02,390 of how it would be subdivided at that time. 77 00:07:04,030 --> 00:07:09,850 I think that the article is proposed, checks a lot of boxes for the positive. 78 00:07:10,490 --> 00:07:15,410 I mean, we've seen over the last year that nothing gets people moving, kind of like a 40-V 79 00:07:15,410 --> 00:07:20,990 proposal to be vocal and I think a lot of the most of the town sentiment was negative if 80 00:07:20,990 --> 00:07:23,230 we don't want it with different effects. 81 00:07:23,730 --> 00:07:28,550 And I think that having the age-restricted proposed community one cuts down like you said 82 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:29,290 on the number of units. 83 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,220 which is good for, you know, concerns people had with traffic. We have an aging population in town, so the 84 00:07:36,220 --> 00:07:41,120 age restrictor community, I think will be good for people that want to remain in Dartmouth. I have 85 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,340 a place to possible by and then maybe even if they have generational homes that they've lived in, 86 00:07:45,420 --> 00:07:50,780 free up to have more homes on the market for younger families to move in. Also with the age restriction, 87 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:55,380 you know, having an impact on the schools, which I know was a concern for some people. So I think, 88 00:07:55,380 --> 00:08:00,580 know, it checks a lot of boxes and kind of answers the concerns that a lot of people had. 89 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,060 When I read the documents we got, I just had two questions that came up. 90 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,180 One is the fundraising portion for the million and 40,000. 91 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,580 And so fundraising to be ongoing, is that through Buzzets Bay coalition, do you know, are 92 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:17,300 they going to be raising those bonds? 93 00:08:17,420 --> 00:08:17,460 Yes. 94 00:08:17,460 --> 00:08:23,660 That's what they presented, they would raise the rest of the funds to acquire that property. 95 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:26,880 And then the second was with the proposed recreation area, 96 00:08:26,980 --> 00:08:27,840 which I think is good. 97 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,860 I was just looking at the GIS map 98 00:08:29,860 --> 00:08:32,700 and the parcel that the town already owns 99 00:08:32,700 --> 00:08:35,060 comes down in a strip, almost to talk a row, 100 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,420 but there's a home there on the corner. 101 00:08:36,900 --> 00:08:38,980 And I think the only access would be the country 102 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:41,180 called Bolivod through the new development 103 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,900 or through fairway drive. 104 00:08:44,380 --> 00:08:47,200 And so I just didn't know like access-wise 105 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,680 if there was any conversation with Buzzets Beable, 106 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:52,780 how people are gonna access this land, 107 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:55,860 Because I think if you're going through someone's street, there's going to be kind of a pushback, 108 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,860 but I don't think there's any easier way to get into a, you know, a parking area. 109 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:08,940 Yeah, I think that's where what was the response was that the new developer that would take 110 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:17,060 on that front part would in laying out a site plan for a development would provide in that 111 00:09:17,060 --> 00:09:17,720 site plan. 112 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,960 access through to the conservation area. 113 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:24,020 So it wouldn't deal with the fairway or the kind of stuff. 114 00:09:24,020 --> 00:09:27,160 Because I know that would be the next battle that you'd fight. 115 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:28,740 So, okay, thank you for that. 116 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,100 Anybody else? 117 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:33,440 I just had one comment. 118 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:34,260 Oh, okay. 119 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,400 And I'm very happy that you're here and very happy that you'll be at the 120 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,500 term meeting because this is one of those projects. 121 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:44,880 Again, like I can think of around the band was one of them. 122 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,020 The project that we went through last year. 123 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:52,220 people need to understand the parameters or what this is and what it is and what it is and what 124 00:09:52,220 --> 00:09:52,620 it is and what it is. 125 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:54,680 It is a great shot of explaining that to people. 126 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:55,500 Great. 127 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:58,840 I will hopefully continue to do that. 128 00:09:59,260 --> 00:09:59,300 Yes. 129 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,340 Now these are the kind of projects we love to see. 130 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:09,140 I realize it is not possible to buy up all the land there is and protect it. 131 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:15,300 I think Dartmouth does an admirable job though, especially with some of the nonprofits that we work with. 132 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,380 it's fantastic how much land has been protected. I know there are those that will still 133 00:10:21,380 --> 00:10:27,740 and have squawk a little bit because they're still housing being built. Well, it wasn't possible 134 00:10:27,740 --> 00:10:33,340 to buy the whole parcel. Yeah, and, you know, it's a balanced, balanced development. It's a balanced 135 00:10:33,340 --> 00:10:39,960 agenda. I think that's, I think that's one of the things if this would enable this to go forward 136 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:48,100 a more if you will palpable way it includes important housing development which is still important 137 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:54,860 for people in town and the growth of the town and all that but really important protections 138 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:01,020 and a balance so yeah this is a really good example and I'll try to be clear about we're talking 139 00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:06,760 about the conservation restriction here and there are other plans and other avenues that could 140 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:13,320 committees and boards that deal with the development aspect of that site, so I'll try to 141 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,360 try to clear about that. 142 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,980 And that's the more realistic, in my opinion, the way that land should be developed, combination, 143 00:11:20,260 --> 00:11:25,020 protection, and a small amount of units, because at one time, I'm not mistaken, 144 00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:31,420 they were, I guess, going to build perhaps at 200 and something units on that land. 145 00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:36,500 I knew it down to 187, I went down to 65, which makes a lot more sense. 146 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:36,780 Yeah. 147 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:42,540 Well, Kudos to the town administration that clearly has been working hard to try to find 148 00:11:42,540 --> 00:11:46,600 a way forward and this was then brought to us. 149 00:11:46,780 --> 00:11:53,200 I just also want to be clear that CPC did not come up with this elegant solution. 150 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:57,100 It was brought to us and we supported it wholeheartedly. 151 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,160 Great. 152 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:01,900 And the other questions or comments? 153 00:12:04,580 --> 00:12:04,840 Thank you. 154 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:05,260 Thank you so much. 155 00:12:05,260 --> 00:12:08,980 take in the time to join us. Thank you all. Good to see you. All right. 156 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,540 Thanks buddy. Take care. 157 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:17,010 So we have 17 articles. I know they're not all 158 00:12:17,010 --> 00:12:22,570 boardable. My question to you is you want to go through and vote the ones we can and then 159 00:12:22,570 --> 00:12:31,410 go back and look at the rationales or go back and forth. I like to vote the ones that we can 160 00:12:31,410 --> 00:12:36,550 and then go back to the rationales. How about you, don't you usually write the rationales after you 161 00:12:38,850 --> 00:12:40,910 There's a draft, there's a draft, there's a draft, there's a draft, there's a draft 162 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:45,010 of the rationales, which I say you, I mean, you didn't spend all afternoon reading it. 163 00:12:45,150 --> 00:12:45,790 I'm very, very helpful. 164 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:49,930 I mean, do you vote on, I mean, I think you talk about the rational, after you vote on 165 00:12:49,930 --> 00:12:50,350 the article. 166 00:12:50,750 --> 00:12:51,190 You typically. 167 00:12:51,750 --> 00:12:52,290 We can. 168 00:12:52,570 --> 00:12:52,810 We can. 169 00:12:52,810 --> 00:12:53,990 The rapid all up. 170 00:12:54,330 --> 00:12:54,750 I mean, get it done. 171 00:12:54,990 --> 00:12:56,210 I mean, get this simple one. 172 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:58,590 It's probably wouldn't take us long to talk about it. 173 00:12:58,590 --> 00:12:59,250 We can't do that. 174 00:12:59,250 --> 00:12:59,450 We can't do that. 175 00:12:59,890 --> 00:13:00,450 We can't do that. 176 00:13:00,450 --> 00:13:01,950 We can't do that. 177 00:13:01,950 --> 00:13:04,870 after whatever you've said and done and then. 178 00:13:04,890 --> 00:13:07,290 Does the sense you're right about them when you think about them? 179 00:13:07,690 --> 00:13:08,150 What's your hair? 180 00:13:08,430 --> 00:13:09,050 Yeah, sure, why not? 181 00:13:09,090 --> 00:13:10,790 No, I'm going back and forth, I just think. 182 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:12,270 I'm asking to see what people prefer. 183 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:20,700 Carry, if you could, on the draft that I sent you, the word doc, 184 00:13:20,820 --> 00:13:24,900 and you keep track of the voting, that way, the votes in there. 185 00:13:25,060 --> 00:13:27,140 I mean, I could do it, but then my stuff's on the screen. 186 00:13:27,180 --> 00:13:30,520 So it's going to be hard for me to flip back and forth, put the voting in, 187 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,480 and go back to the article. 188 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:33,400 That's all. 189 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,960 Okay, so I'm going to ask today. 190 00:13:35,260 --> 00:13:35,920 Yes, sir. 191 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:37,140 Seven, I'll ask today. 192 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,400 Gary, I have the... 193 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,500 Give us a list of the articles we can vote on this evening. 194 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:46,980 Has the Slackman voted on these articles? 195 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,200 No, we bring it to the Slackman first. 196 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,160 We make our recommendations first. 197 00:13:51,220 --> 00:13:53,440 They're going to vote on on the 20... 198 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:53,640 Yeah. 199 00:13:54,340 --> 00:13:56,080 The next meeting of the 28th. 200 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:57,760 We'll give them our recommendations. 201 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,300 They'll like to read our recommendations. 202 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:13,500 They went through these at the last select board meeting, I mean, Cody went through everything and they talked about them a little bit, but yeah, there was no voting. 203 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:15,380 And then some of them are not final anyway. 204 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:17,240 Yeah, the 28th they will vote on it. 205 00:14:20,670 --> 00:14:22,850 Without recommendations, I want to find this committee's results. 206 00:14:23,770 --> 00:14:26,470 Anyway, I'm not going to read the entire article. 207 00:14:26,570 --> 00:14:29,470 I will simply read the heading of the article. 208 00:14:29,470 --> 00:14:36,170 So, Article 1 is the Community Preservation Committee, Paschamance at Valley Conservation Project, 209 00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:42,170 which we just heard, Buddy Baker Smith, described to us, do I have a motion? 210 00:14:42,930 --> 00:14:44,870 I'll make a motion, too. 211 00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:46,090 Can we make some motion? 212 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:46,650 I can. 213 00:14:47,210 --> 00:14:49,770 Second, from Patrick, any discussion? 214 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,860 Are we ready to vote? 215 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:57,000 All in favor of Article 1? 216 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,140 Aye. 217 00:14:58,460 --> 00:14:59,220 Any opposed? 218 00:14:59,220 --> 00:14:59,860 Bye-bye. 219 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:05,580 No. Any abstentions? No. So that's seven. So we have to do it there. 220 00:15:08,010 --> 00:15:12,790 How do you want me to read the rationale and if we can put it up on the screen? 221 00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:16,050 Oh, look. Okay. Okay. 222 00:15:23,230 --> 00:15:35,690 Good, not for you. Just one comment before we go to the first article one rationale in the top part of our template that we use to do the rationale. 223 00:15:35,690 --> 00:15:41,850 I added that section, the section is not new, the section was in another place on the 224 00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:43,370 warrant rationales before. 225 00:15:43,850 --> 00:15:48,450 But this way just covers everything that may or may not have a financial implication. 226 00:15:49,610 --> 00:15:54,490 Basically, that we have to make a recommendation to town meeting on every warrant article, 227 00:15:54,610 --> 00:15:57,850 regardless of whether the article involves a financial matter. 228 00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:59,630 So now it's just part of the template. 229 00:15:59,890 --> 00:16:01,110 I think that's good. 230 00:16:01,390 --> 00:16:02,630 Because it was on the other one. 231 00:16:03,010 --> 00:16:09,330 Yeah, that way it's there and then however the articles are listed they may or not be listed in that order 232 00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:15,810 I think last time for whatever reason the non-financial ones came after so we had that in the middle of the rationale 233 00:16:20,450 --> 00:16:23,850 Anyway, do you want to read it yourself? So you want it to be read to you? 234 00:16:25,810 --> 00:16:26,250 I 235 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,040 like that it clarifies it's a conservation restriction like you mentioned the body in that way 236 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:42,160 It's clear what it's for, and that it mentions the, you know, aligns with the objectives 237 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,700 and also protecting the aquifer, aquifer, which I think is important. 238 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,300 Right. 239 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:47,180 That actually, yeah. 240 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:50,760 When I went through the document, I realized that that was a point that should be made. 241 00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:53,660 I realized that there'll be a map passed out. 242 00:16:53,880 --> 00:17:01,740 I'm sure, a town meeting, and it will show where all the water wells are behind that. 243 00:17:02,340 --> 00:17:03,820 So, I thought that was important. 244 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,500 changes, there are a big thoughts, John. 245 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:16,440 Yeah, a big part of this, as we all know, is the, this is a much better alternative to 246 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,320 what the talent is facing right now with a 40B project. 247 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,020 So even though it's separate, it is tied together. 248 00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:25,440 There's no question about it when we view it at the CPC. 249 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:33,800 You know, why not come out and say this, this article is tied to the existence of the 250 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:42,600 This thing approved 40B project, and this alternative presents a much better solution to the 251 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,200 town. 252 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:48,900 And John makes a good point because as I understand that if this does not pass, it could 253 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:50,780 revert back to the original project. 254 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:51,360 Absolutely. 255 00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:53,220 I think that's a good point. 256 00:17:53,220 --> 00:17:53,500 I think that's a good point. 257 00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:57,280 That people do tie it together because if they don't vote for it, it's going to revert 258 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:57,500 back. 259 00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:58,360 It's just worth mentioning. 260 00:17:59,120 --> 00:17:59,720 No, that's fine. 261 00:17:59,860 --> 00:18:00,480 That's a sentence. 262 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,600 Kerry, how would you like it to read? 263 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:05,840 Yeah, that's it. 264 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,840 That's just how did I just said this? 265 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:07,920 That's it. 266 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:10,420 Why don't we do it back on watch the video? 267 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,700 This project goes in and in here with the 40B requirements for the time. 268 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:16,660 It's something like that. 269 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:22,320 This parcel is tied to the 40B approved 40B project. 270 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,340 If approved provides a better alternative. 271 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,580 than the 40B project? 272 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:41,120 I would suggest changing it from tied to one component of just because the spot is making 273 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:46,100 the point that it's not people who need to be clear about what it is and is it? 274 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:51,040 But I think you're absolutely right to put something in about this because it checks boxes 275 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:57,410 as Patrick said not just for that, but for the population of the town that is always being 276 00:18:57,410 --> 00:19:02,190 right up that we're not really, you know, prioritizing them. 277 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:03,890 Maybe it's worth it somewhere in a way. 278 00:19:04,250 --> 00:19:10,390 Like if approved, this would provide a, I want to say, reasonable alternative of 279 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:15,230 something like that, to the proposed 40 B residences at Hawkeh. 280 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:16,010 That's possible. 281 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:17,090 That's possible. 282 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:17,830 That's possible. 283 00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:18,570 It's very great. 284 00:19:18,570 --> 00:19:18,830 Thank you. 285 00:19:20,170 --> 00:19:24,670 So the proposed 40 B development, known as the residences at Hawkeh one. 286 00:19:24,670 --> 00:19:28,450 Okay, I'm done to the rights of Mr. Forty Bae. 287 00:19:28,790 --> 00:19:31,290 Development, I'm known as the residences at Arthur. 288 00:19:31,370 --> 00:19:33,210 I want to propose to as the residences at Arthur. 289 00:19:35,970 --> 00:19:39,170 Residents at that heart, aren't they? 290 00:19:39,210 --> 00:19:40,070 And that's that, yeah. 291 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:42,070 Good. 292 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:45,330 I'm going to need to write that a little bit, but yeah. 293 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:53,510 Article two, appropriation to the stabilization fund. 294 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:56,150 Somebody want to make a motion. 295 00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:58,590 I'll make a motion to approve. 296 00:19:58,930 --> 00:19:59,330 I'll second. 297 00:20:01,090 --> 00:20:01,710 Any discussion? 298 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:03,210 Comments? 299 00:20:03,530 --> 00:20:04,030 Gary Hayson. 300 00:20:04,350 --> 00:20:07,330 All this will bring our balance to close to about 14.3 million. 301 00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:13,830 Dollars and Stabilization Fund, which is in line with the financial policies in the 302 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:21,090 town, being a certain percentage of the operating revenues operating budget, excuse me. 303 00:20:21,090 --> 00:20:25,970 And while it's still fresh in my mind, that would be good to put that figure into the rationale. 304 00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:28,090 But we'll get to that. 305 00:20:29,610 --> 00:20:31,950 Anybody else have a comment or question? 306 00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:33,890 Ready to vote? 307 00:20:34,550 --> 00:20:36,910 All in favor of Article 2. 308 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:37,610 I. 309 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:41,010 Any opposed or abstentions? 310 00:20:41,410 --> 00:20:42,650 So 7.0. 311 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:45,130 7.0. 312 00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:45,150 7.0. 313 00:20:45,810 --> 00:20:46,030 Yep. 314 00:20:47,010 --> 00:20:49,530 And what was that amount that I need to add to the rationale? 315 00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:55,350 the bounce. 14, let's say 14.3 million. 316 00:21:00,050 --> 00:21:06,110 I would also maybe add that this annual contribution is important to ensure the town 317 00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:12,870 retains its AAA-bound rating. Okay, yeah. And as Gary said, it aligns what have financial 318 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:16,470 policy. Yes, it's also aligns with terms financial policy, so you can say that. 319 00:21:20,550 --> 00:21:21,150 Didn't 320 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:25,230 I feel your pain in your way, Bonnie. 321 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,740 You want to read it when you're done. 322 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:32,300 Yeah. 323 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Wait a minute. 324 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:34,400 I have to. 325 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,440 That way we can say it about. 326 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,320 Hear the flow. 327 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:37,780 This annual contribution. 328 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,480 You said something about that. 329 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,320 This annual contribution is important to ensure the town 330 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,140 routines. 331 00:21:44,620 --> 00:21:46,060 It's triple a bond reading. 332 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:48,500 And then. 333 00:21:48,860 --> 00:21:49,900 And I'll, would you say a line? 334 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:50,640 In the lines. 335 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,040 the lines with the town's financial policies? 336 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,780 I'm sure and lines. 337 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:59,820 No, to ensure the town retains its triple a bond reading. 338 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:09,490 The line left. 339 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:14,030 And then after that in the lines with the town's financial policies. 340 00:22:15,770 --> 00:22:17,450 Is that what you said financial policies? 341 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:18,370 Yes. 342 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:21,890 When you send it out too well, proofreading. 343 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:22,710 Please. 344 00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:25,210 Would it be greatly appreciated? 345 00:22:25,390 --> 00:22:27,150 It'll get lots of proofreading. 346 00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:29,010 And I would really appreciate that. 347 00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:29,670 I would appreciate them. 348 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:59,900 I mean, I added to the end this article, so it's also out this article proposed as an appropriation of 250,000 from surplus revenue and transfers this amount to the stabilization fund. This transfer amount is primarily attributed to the stabilization fund's current balance of greater than 10% of the town's operating revenues. The balance of 14.3 million. What else do we want to write after that? 349 00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:04,580 Is that just the balance? Is that where it is? 350 00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:08,720 The balance is 14.3 million. The balance is 14.4 million. 351 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,460 Okay, the balance is 14.3 million. 352 00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:14,900 This annual contribution is important to ensure the town routines. 353 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:19,260 It's AAA, bond rating, and aligns with the town's financial policies. 354 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,080 It sounds good. 355 00:23:21,380 --> 00:23:23,700 Okay, all right. I can unhighlight that one. 356 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,540 I would leave it high-load to avoid the final copy of it. 357 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:29,300 You got it. 358 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,860 That way we can go back and give it a little bit more. 359 00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:39,920 one's over. Perfect. All righty. Is Article 3 ready for voting? Yes. 360 00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:45,240 Question 2 for Article 3. So hang on one second. Is that some correct? 361 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Yes. Okay. 362 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:55,740 All right. Article 3. Appropriation to the stabilization fund for collective bargaining and non-union agreements. 363 00:23:56,140 --> 00:23:57,500 Do we have a motion to approve? 364 00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:59,760 I'll connect with the motion to the pool. 365 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,680 And a second? 366 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,620 A second. 367 00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:03,220 Any discussion? 368 00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:06,700 Let's look at the comments on the side. 369 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,360 It was just about the is the number accurate, 370 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,520 which I just asked. 371 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:16,780 Gary, do you have any comments on this? 372 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Maybe maybe the same. 373 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,560 We could leave on part of the town. 374 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:21,880 Most of the financial policies. 375 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,420 We could probably get something at the balance. 376 00:24:24,420 --> 00:24:26,220 Let me see what we've got to talk about. 377 00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:27,160 Are you talking about the rationale? 378 00:24:28,220 --> 00:24:28,440 Yes. 379 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,560 Did you take, did you vote already on that? 380 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:30,780 We did. 381 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:31,180 We did. 382 00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:31,660 We did. 383 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,340 We just, we were discussing. 384 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:33,600 We just, we were discussing. 385 00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:34,240 Okay. 386 00:24:35,060 --> 00:24:35,280 Sorry. 387 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,120 We got to keep up with Gary. 388 00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:40,740 Sorry. 389 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,000 Anyway, did you have any comments about this article, Gary? 390 00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:45,900 No. 391 00:24:46,020 --> 00:24:50,360 This will help us out with, obviously, you know, we're in, 392 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:55,480 collect the bargaining with all four unions and what we typically do with this we started this 393 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,820 fund quite some time ago and it just 394 00:24:59,420 --> 00:25:04,520 continues to fund that so that once we get to union contract negotiations we can 395 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,640 use this fund and we need it we will need it as you'll see in another article but we will be 396 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,240 up the bottom of the night because those contracts have been settled but for what we also 397 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,920 did we kind of gave a little bit to the schools last year when we tried to help them out with the budget 398 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:27,340 That's right, so this is not just town, it's also available for any kind of increase that we may need to adjust. 399 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,880 So we're just to refresh my memory. 400 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:31,780 We probably have discussed this before. 401 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:39,740 But that $150,000 when you say helps with the collective bargaining, what if you want to do a deeper dive? 402 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,680 What would that entail? 403 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:42,780 Will you go through your needs? 404 00:25:42,940 --> 00:25:43,720 I don't know. 405 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,440 The salaries. 406 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,260 The actual salaries. 407 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,520 The salaries itself. 408 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,500 And the only the hours itself is that it's just the way that you just want to get. 409 00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:56,730 Ready to vote? 410 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,500 All in favor? 411 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,580 Aye. 412 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:03,000 Any opposed or abstentions? 413 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:04,520 So seven zero. 414 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,900 Zero zero zero. 415 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:06,580 All right. 416 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:15,160 And then going over to the rational for Article 3. 417 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:23,340 So Kara, you can obviously take the red away from the sun. 418 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:28,580 wasn't sure if that was fine on but I did okay yeah because it's definitely 419 00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:33,180 it's the final number Gary would you mentioned to add the balance of the 420 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:37,240 account yes so so let's see where it reads 421 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,670 this is this is not carries right 422 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,200 hmm this isn't like carries using no no we're not the same right so we can add 423 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,840 that the balance is a 1.1 million 1.1 million 1.1 million 424 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,040 carries editing it but this is this is what she's doing for her yeah yeah and we obviously 425 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,940 finalized the 150,000 I got a little help over here so 426 00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:16,700 it's preceded Patrick is an excellent 427 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:18,940 wordsmith he hit that something 428 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,680 yes join Gary made a point that this is for four unions I think 429 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:38,260 that's an important statement so in the middle of the first sentence which is set aside to resolve 430 00:27:38,260 --> 00:27:43,980 contract negotiations with four unions for all staff for unions for all staff 431 00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:49,540 Santa correct state and yeah I would I would I say four unions 432 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,720 Yeah 433 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,000 We have four unions 434 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Was there a union that's not settled in this though? 435 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,320 It does say excluding the school 436 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,320 But that was the only one that's not included in this 437 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,960 Correct 438 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,700 I mean, just read this for a second. 439 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,760 I'm trying to know if you've lost that experience, but I'm not going to. 440 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:14,940 I'm sorry. 441 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,500 I'm sorry. 442 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:23,020 I just thought it last meeting that Cody had said there was three out of four that we're 443 00:28:23,020 --> 00:28:23,740 going to be. 444 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:25,840 Well, so right now we have, this four units. 445 00:28:26,020 --> 00:28:33,040 Right now we have, we're going to most likely have laborers and still work are settled. 446 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:37,980 DTA and police probably won't be settled for this contract for this town meeting. 447 00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:40,960 So you'll see those articles coming up. 448 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,620 We don't have a dollar amounts for those. 449 00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:45,120 Yeah, but we'll have to do those next week. 450 00:28:46,060 --> 00:28:47,940 I would leave this as purely the balance. 451 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,280 And if we also want to mention that there are four unions, 452 00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:55,980 I don't know how you want to put it maybe four unions in. 453 00:28:57,060 --> 00:28:58,340 I'll take advantage of that. 454 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,760 If you have, we're mentioning those. 455 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680 The steel workers and other articles. 456 00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:06,700 So what was this article? 457 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:13,080 The fund all the fund we can put the fund the four unions if you want to mention to defend but remaining 458 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,780 If you want to mention those four unions 459 00:29:14,780 --> 00:29:17,640 There's people won't know who the four unions are 460 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,280 Oh, and 461 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:25,600 You know where do we start and stop? I think it's important when you look at especially the total one point one plus another 462 00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:30,580 There's like what union is getting this yeah because it all appears is one union 463 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:35,000 So I think it's important it was like this is for union. Yeah 464 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,580 And whether or not the community wants to listen, 465 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,440 so maybe after all staff like 466 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Comma represented by four unions, which include laborers, steel workers, USW. 467 00:29:48,780 --> 00:29:50,960 But they have more articles in here there. 468 00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:56,180 Right, but that's to, I think the point John's trying to make is those articles 469 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:57,240 at the spend. 470 00:29:57,340 --> 00:29:58,100 This is the fund. 471 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,980 So it could be unclear. 472 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,780 The public could say probably say, well, you know, what is the use on it? 473 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:13,700 Then you should, you know, be clear, put funding, you know, and then, and the other act was put, you know, to expand, settle. 474 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,760 Well, those articles are particular for this issue, you know, so this is not a question. 475 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:25,580 Yeah, but this is for, after funding, the other ones, the confusion I had, what are we doing here, we just for spending, this is for funding. 476 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,980 This is for spending, this is for funding, this is for funding, this is for funding, this is for funding. 477 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:36,060 Spend comes out of the each individual order, but what I think to John's point you must have mentioned that what is this the fund 478 00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:40,020 The four unions. Why would I have any problem without this one me clear when the circle's about 479 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:46,860 The fund is the whole use but so please at least brotherhood. I don't know if you want to leave the list. Police brotherhood 480 00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:52,140 I think if you say four unions, somebody's gonna say well, what are the unions right which is set 481 00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:56,620 Which is set aside to resolve contract negotiations for 482 00:30:56,620 --> 00:31:05,360 Maybe just do another sentence after this after the excluding the school department and then say the four unions represent it or the four unions 483 00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:11,540 Yeah, this might be appropriated. Yeah for you, but you know, are police brother 484 00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:13,360 Yeah, yeah 485 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,080 Yeah, so that you're just include that's brilliant. Exactly. So it's about as blatant the obvious 486 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,500 This is a funding part. Yeah, not a spending out money is being appropriated for 487 00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,520 or I would say to settle the contract. 488 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,620 What do everyone want to say? 489 00:31:27,740 --> 00:31:29,820 Fundamentally, we should settle the contract. 490 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,020 Do we want to say which one the contract is before you? 491 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Yeah. 492 00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:36,500 You have to list the union. 493 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,860 I put like a semi-colon and then list them I would say. 494 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,880 Then you can take out exclusive score. 495 00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:44,300 Please, brotherhood. 496 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Police, brotherhood. 497 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:48,380 Is it still work is scary? 498 00:31:48,380 --> 00:31:49,900 You asked W. 499 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:53,980 You know, it's still workers or maybe spell it out. 500 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:54,780 Oh, you asked W. 501 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,420 You asked W. 502 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,880 You know, it's still workers. 503 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,180 Whoops. 504 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:01,820 Yep. 505 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,140 Okay. 506 00:32:04,180 --> 00:32:04,960 Missing one. 507 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,220 Dometh Town. 508 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:07,620 Employee Association. 509 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Dometh. 510 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,900 T-E-A. 511 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,620 Town. 512 00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:12,220 Employee Association. 513 00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:13,240 Police. 514 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:16,780 And laborers. 515 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,580 Laborers. 516 00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:18,860 Yes. 517 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Okay. 518 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,220 I will fix my miss spelling. 519 00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:24,080 Okay, thank you, move on. 520 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,920 Do you want to read it? 521 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,600 You want me to? 522 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,540 No, it was. 523 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:28,820 No. 524 00:32:30,980 --> 00:32:32,060 Let's just assume, yes. 525 00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:38,540 All right, so this money is being appropriated. 526 00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:42,940 It's settled contracts for four unions and then in parenthesis, police, brotherhood, United 527 00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:47,120 Steel Workers, Dartmouth Town Employee Association and Laborors. 528 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,780 There you go. 529 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:57,760 the general laws chapter 40 section five be in a stance of procedure one existing contracts and nearing expiration. 530 00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:59,920 Did you say this money? 531 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:03,360 This is a appropriation. 532 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Oh, this appropriation. Why did you go to money? 533 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:07,020 Because it doesn't make sense. 534 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,440 That's where. 535 00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:10,440 Okay. 536 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,340 This article appropriates or. 537 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,640 This article appropriates. 538 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,700 So what do we want to say? 539 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:19,120 I'm sorry. 540 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:26,600 So, again, this article is, uh, this article appropriates, uh, what it appropriates funds to settle 541 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,140 the contract, is that what the word you want, because no one here did it say, well, 542 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,340 you should put the amount of funds, somehow, however you want to work this sentence. 543 00:33:35,740 --> 00:33:41,920 These funds are, we refer to it as this article that these funds are being appropriated, that's 544 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,460 what I said. 545 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,760 Right. 546 00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:44,680 That's what it originally said. 547 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:48,700 Originally said after the excluding school department is that these funds are being, 548 00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:53,820 These funds are appropriated to settle the contracts before unions, do you want to say something different than that? 549 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,900 That's not the first sentence, right? 550 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:56,320 No. 551 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:56,880 Okay. 552 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,560 Okay, fine. 553 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:58,740 Yeah. 554 00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:00,840 We can read through it. 555 00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:02,180 I said, we'll get another cancel. 556 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,340 Yeah. 557 00:34:03,340 --> 00:34:03,500 Yeah. 558 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:05,720 And then I'll just fix my. 559 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Yeah. 560 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,320 That was a draft. 561 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,220 Yeah. 562 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:15,560 It's going to be a draft until we vote on everything and everybody agrees on all the words. 563 00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:17,920 We have time. 564 00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:21,060 Where are we? 565 00:34:21,740 --> 00:34:29,160 Article 4, appropriation to the stabilization fund for long term capital is the figure 566 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,380 $300,000 Act of Gary. 567 00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:34,060 Somebody should approve. 568 00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:35,360 Thank you. 569 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:35,960 Second. 570 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,140 Discussion. 571 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,660 Gary, have any comments? 572 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,240 Well, this fund, as the committee knows, was established a couple of years ago to address 573 00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:50,920 a lot of the longer-term capital issues that we would have in town and borrowings that we 574 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,500 would have in town. 575 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:58,300 We used some of this last year $500,000 for the schools for the fire system that they 576 00:34:58,300 --> 00:34:58,960 had to replace. 577 00:34:59,260 --> 00:35:04,800 We replaced the $500,000 back, so we're asking for an additional $300,000 to be put 578 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,100 in the account, which would bring it to roughly about 1.3 million. 579 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:16,500 And these are for, again, the longer term, bigger, bigger projects, capital, excuse me, 580 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,460 CIPC focuses mainly on those smaller items. 581 00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,620 This would be for larger initiatives. 582 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:29,150 I believe this is also part of my financial policy. 583 00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:34,950 Well, this account is relatively new, newer. 584 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:46,450 I have the RFA looking over, actually the financial policies, I want to introduce those back into the committee, so if there's any changes that we need to add, we may want to add this because I don't think this was not in the end. 585 00:35:46,690 --> 00:35:54,170 Right, I don't think this was around when the original financial policies for some years ago were established, but we do need to look at those. 586 00:35:54,330 --> 00:35:59,030 I have her looking at them and she's going to come back at least a draft or revisions to that. 587 00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:03,350 So we may have to change this potentially the name. 588 00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:04,490 No, no, no, no, the check-out. 589 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:07,030 No, this is the war article we're looking at, so no. 590 00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:08,050 Yeah, the name doesn't change. 591 00:36:08,330 --> 00:36:08,650 Good morning. 592 00:36:08,770 --> 00:36:09,650 How are you talking about that? 593 00:36:09,770 --> 00:36:10,510 I'm talking about it. 594 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:11,650 We're talking about the stabilization. 595 00:36:12,070 --> 00:36:12,950 This is a new funding disorder. 596 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:13,990 No, no. 597 00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:16,250 This front has been around for about a couple years now. 598 00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:17,810 It's not a new fund. 599 00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:19,210 It's not a new fund. 600 00:36:19,350 --> 00:36:20,390 It's not a new fund. 601 00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:20,790 It's not a financial policy. 602 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:22,350 It's not a tax law financial policy. 603 00:36:22,570 --> 00:36:23,090 Oh, I see. 604 00:36:23,470 --> 00:36:28,310 So we would want to revise those financial policies to include that we have a long-term capital 605 00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:30,510 stabilization fund and that. 606 00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:31,210 That was my confusion. 607 00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:35,630 Yeah, we're going to, and, and our FAs, looking at that. Okay. I'm going to understand. 608 00:36:35,890 --> 00:36:42,950 Thank you. This is in the second sentence at Capital Meads in, so first in that with period. 609 00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:49,710 And then in front of the next section, right, the goal of this week finished voting on this article. 610 00:36:50,330 --> 00:36:50,730 Oh, my god. 611 00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:53,470 I'm sorry. 612 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:55,170 Can't you see? 613 00:36:56,330 --> 00:36:58,930 The first thought you was changing the warrant wording. 614 00:36:58,930 --> 00:37:02,650 Maybe next time we've got we've got a boat in it. 615 00:37:02,810 --> 00:37:04,070 We're going to go back. 616 00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:05,610 We're going to go this time. 617 00:37:06,110 --> 00:37:06,650 We're going to go this time. 618 00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:08,930 I have a few. 619 00:37:09,790 --> 00:37:10,910 Sorry, Terri. 620 00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:11,710 Oh, yeah. 621 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:12,830 I need some. 622 00:37:13,330 --> 00:37:15,350 Anyway, she was much nicer than me, Terri. 623 00:37:16,090 --> 00:37:16,990 Oh, thank you. 624 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:19,690 We ready to vote. 625 00:37:21,050 --> 00:37:23,290 All in favor of Article 4. 626 00:37:23,650 --> 00:37:24,250 Aye. 627 00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:26,830 Any opposed or extensions? 628 00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:29,970 So, 7, 0, 0, all right, okay. 629 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,960 Now, what did you want to do? No. It's a head-on over. And where it says, Major facility and capital needs, we're just not. 630 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:45,420 The second sentence, the end. Yeah, if I see it, put a period after capital needs. Because I think we'd need a lot more money in this, in this, 631 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:56,420 the goal is to find to actually reduce reliance on future borrowing. So I would say, the goal of this appropriation, 632 00:37:56,420 --> 00:37:59,960 of the goal of this stabilization of our list to reduce reliance on 633 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,360 future borrowing and less than the impact of a lot of the still 634 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,460 the beginning there is on page of budgets and tax base yeah that's 635 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,520 perfect that was an easy fix 636 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,980 it was an easy fix and don't forget 300,000 is the part of the 637 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:16,080 block yeah I mean we're I mean we're running when I'm telling you one 638 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,300 point I'll get I think we should actually put in here is the act the 639 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:22,180 exact numbers and I'll get those for next week so we can drop those 640 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:26,300 exact numbers for the rationale okay you know if it's pennies and 641 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:31,160 you know I think we should probably put the most the current we're post interest to this 642 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,060 these accounts every month and everything so I'll get those exact numbers we can drop those 643 00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:38,540 in next week. That's fine I thought for a minute there you were telling us the numbers in the 644 00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:42,260 Warren. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just checking. 645 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,960 No, I'm just checking. Oh, sure, that's checking. Okay, so article we're back to the Warren. 646 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,640 Article five is not ready. I'm assuming seeing a lot of that will be ready on there. 647 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,900 So we won't bother to look at the rationale. 648 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,060 I want six. 649 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,520 Six is ready. 650 00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:09,820 Okay, so article six, general by law amendment of chapter 37, section six, revolving funds. 651 00:39:10,220 --> 00:39:12,620 I make a motion to the article. 652 00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:13,500 I'll second. 653 00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:15,700 Discussion. 654 00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:18,200 Little summary for us. 655 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,480 You know, like we went over the last week when a Cody explained, 656 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:30,380 This is mainly for maintenance and repairs of the vehicles, you know, a lot of these vehicles are moving in capital. 657 00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:34,940 We looked at when the chief presented to us the maintenance on these vehicles. 658 00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:41,080 We talked about idle times, and even though these vehicles sit, it's still a drain on the engines. 659 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520 It's a drain on all the pots and everything. 660 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,380 So we have winter tariffs and these vehicles that we need to address. 661 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,640 So this was set up a revolving fund to capture some of that. 662 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:58,500 The revenue that we build for like details and then be able to spend it on maintenance and what happens to it right now 663 00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:05,740 What happens to the money that comes in from the operations it's through their operation 664 00:40:05,740 --> 00:40:11,000 So if and like you'll see in the police bombs budget you'll see like vehicle repair and maintenance 665 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,980 And they're having to pay for all the repair and maintenance out of those vehicles and that gets budget every year 666 00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:18,500 This would keep a closer track. 667 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,840 Think of it as like the bucket, for instance, 668 00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:23,580 when they charge fees, then they go to town 669 00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:26,860 meeting and have to ask for additional fees, 670 00:40:26,860 --> 00:40:31,700 ask for additional to elevate those balances that they can use. 671 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,760 Let's say they bring in $200,000, and they spend $150, 672 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,360 but they really have $200,000 in revenue. 673 00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,980 We have to go to town meeting to up that amount. 674 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,540 So every year they can spend up to what they bring in 675 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:42,920 in revenues. 676 00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:44,500 So that's basically what we're trying to do 677 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:45,860 to set this up as a revolving fund. 678 00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:49,460 So any revenues that we capture on this account strictly will go from vehicle maintenance. 679 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,480 Do they already have a cruiser use fee or is this a new fee that they're adding? 680 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040 I believe they do, I think this, it's very minimal. 681 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,140 Was $10. 682 00:40:58,180 --> 00:40:59,740 Just to get the cruiser. 683 00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:00,080 Yes. 684 00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:01,020 Not the staffing. 685 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,220 And I think they looked around the comparable communities and it's a lot higher in compare 686 00:41:05,620 --> 00:41:06,020 communities. 687 00:41:06,620 --> 00:41:10,200 Is there an admin fee too, or is it just, because I know like, I, I, I had details 688 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:10,800 that matter, boys. 689 00:41:10,980 --> 00:41:15,480 They don't have a cruiser fee, but they have a admin fee, I think it's 10% that they 690 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:21,560 on top is like I guess a processing 10% of the detail amount yeah I had the impression that 691 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,320 they're moving forward in some way to look at that fee and yeah they preach it because that's 692 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:32,260 what they said at the select board you think yeah when you think about how many details they're on 693 00:41:32,260 --> 00:41:37,960 tell them you have to do a lot okay add to this account and you know offset the maintenance then why not 694 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,500 do it you know yeah definitely any more questions or John yeah Gary not every detail has a cruiser 695 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,000 some of them are personal vehicles. 696 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,520 Is there a personal vehicle? 697 00:41:51,580 --> 00:41:53,620 You mean we're talking about, they don't have a vehicle. 698 00:41:54,140 --> 00:41:56,320 I'd say 50% of them, they bring their own vehicle 699 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,200 to the job site. 700 00:41:58,820 --> 00:42:01,380 So do they get charged a fee when that happens? 701 00:42:03,220 --> 00:42:05,200 The vendor, who would have to check this 702 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,320 whether or not they get a cruise, they 703 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,080 recharge a cruise of free, because if that's the case, 704 00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:09,660 the cruise originally isn't there, 705 00:42:10,340 --> 00:42:12,180 they do get charged a detail fee. 706 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:14,320 I understand that, but if there's no cruise 707 00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:20,320 there. He's going to be charging them. Yeah, I get used to feed from him. Yeah, I'm not sure if they 708 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,920 if didn't seem it, it was only. Yeah, I don't have a cruise. If somebody is specifically asked 709 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,700 for a car. Of course, if somebody that, if they ask him for a cruise like, you know, 710 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,680 ever source, there's a lot of working town, obviously they're working on utilities, they're using 711 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,820 they're using probably police detail, but yeah, you're right. There are sometimes that you see the 712 00:42:37,820 --> 00:42:41,980 person at many times, it's just, or it's a mix of a person's yeah, sometimes we'll have a cruise 713 00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:48,840 So I think to the John's point, I think now a lot of offices in town, especially in certain 714 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,460 special assignments, they're going to take home cruisers. 715 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,460 So I think they can use that to go to court, they can use that to go to the detail. 716 00:42:55,740 --> 00:43:00,580 But if the person ordering the detail didn't request the cruiser, they still can take it there. 717 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,880 But I don't think you can charge the person for it. 718 00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:03,940 Yeah, they didn't request it. 719 00:43:05,420 --> 00:43:09,360 But we can ask the chief on the detail if it's an idea. 720 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:16,900 If we're actually charging for cruisers of that, if they're using personal use of that. 721 00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:17,380 No, I'm requesting. 722 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,900 That's a good point. 723 00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:20,920 Be interesting how they govern that. 724 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:23,260 Or is it just the flat fee? 725 00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:24,500 Like, did they just charge everybody? 726 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,760 Like, and not call it. 727 00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:27,980 But we know that they definitely want it for their fee? 728 00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:28,100 Yeah. 729 00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,060 I want them to charge it for their fees. 730 00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:30,140 I want them to charge it for their fees. 731 00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:30,520 Yeah. 732 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,540 Because it was a conversation about how low that was. 733 00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:35,780 Yeah. 734 00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:36,480 I can ask the chief. 735 00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:38,880 I don't know if that would hold up the voting on the warrant. 736 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,560 No, I think I don't think so. I think it's a clarification. 737 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,420 And we can always revise it if we don't get to something. 738 00:43:46,420 --> 00:43:51,480 The way that they track it is when they do the intake, they have a form they fill out. 739 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,500 I think if you ask for a cruiser, they circle that. 740 00:43:53,540 --> 00:43:58,680 Maybe that's how they build the fee only to certain, to certain people who actually ask for it. 741 00:44:00,220 --> 00:44:01,600 Just some clarification. 742 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,000 Yeah, we're only voting whether or not they're going to create a police cruiser revolving. 743 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:07,560 Yeah, I think we all get it. 744 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,440 If you're saving, I would say, if I don't know if it's on auto-save, I've noticed the lights are lights for like a little bit. 745 00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:17,880 I'm just automatic. I'm just automatic. I'm just automatic. 746 00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:18,180 I'm just automatic. 747 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,000 But now they say it out to double set. 748 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,080 The battery's running off. 749 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,120 No. Well, I'm not on power here anyway. 750 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:25,780 Okay. 751 00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:28,280 Are we ready to vote? 752 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,320 All in favor of Article 6. 753 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,280 Hi. 754 00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:35,360 Hi. Any opposed or abstentions? 755 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,320 So, 7-0, 2-0, and 756 00:44:41,530 --> 00:44:43,970 we're actually out, we'll be... 757 00:44:43,970 --> 00:44:46,570 I don't think it's much to talk about, but... 758 00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:47,990 Anyway... 759 00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:48,750 This is what I wrote. 760 00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:55,150 Yeah, that seems like it's... 761 00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:55,490 Yeah. 762 00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:56,510 Pretty good. 763 00:44:58,010 --> 00:44:58,610 Yeah, that's true. 764 00:44:58,890 --> 00:44:59,270 Yeah, good. 765 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,260 Good. 766 00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:04,930 It's a winner. Yeah. 767 00:45:05,810 --> 00:45:11,490 Alrighty. Article 7, we're ready to vote on, is that correct? Yes. 768 00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:18,430 So Article 7, appropriation and authorization to borrow for Route 6 Water Main. 769 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:20,720 Motion? 770 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,300 Make a motion. That's a motion. Bill 2, discussion, Gary. 771 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,980 This gives us the authorization to borrow, obviously, if we were going to do something 772 00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:36,940 to be, you know, bands at first, but we also talked about maybe using some available funds 773 00:45:36,940 --> 00:45:44,040 and not having to go up for the 1.6 million in, you know, the entire amount, but we still 774 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,500 haven't, we don't know yet, we're still looking at that, but this just gives us new authorization 775 00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:48,220 tomorrow. 776 00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:49,320 Just a little more. 777 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,120 Just a little more. 778 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,240 Just a little more. 779 00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:50,940 Just a little more. 780 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,840 Just a little more. 781 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,720 That's how I mean, the clarify where the money is going to be coming from. 782 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,240 Well, it would be the authorization. 783 00:46:02,020 --> 00:46:04,220 Yeah, but what fun would you take it from? 784 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,760 Well, this is what this is what I mean. 785 00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:10,660 So I'm not sure if they said it was going to be, 786 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,600 well, that's my point. 787 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,780 Because they said it was going to be, I don't think it's water. 788 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,260 I don't think it's water, I don't know if it's water. 789 00:46:17,260 --> 00:46:20,100 You're not going to take it out in any enterprise form. 790 00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:21,260 You know, it's being borrowed. 791 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:22,200 Yeah. 792 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,680 If we were to take it from available revenues, either way, we can find out where it's going to come from. 793 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:33,140 Either retain earnings from the, from the, from the enterprise funds or general fund free cash. 794 00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:38,380 Because if someone asks you, exactly, you need to clarify where we would have come from. 795 00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:44,020 Again, we think it's going to be a little bit less than this. 796 00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:50,100 But we budget, we're asking for 1.6, but again we, we'll get the detail on someone, 797 00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:51,140 What's someone asked about? 798 00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:51,560 Oh, yeah. 799 00:46:51,580 --> 00:46:52,020 What does it mean? 800 00:46:52,220 --> 00:46:53,340 And is this the... 801 00:46:53,340 --> 00:46:58,860 This is the project that we will be saving because it's incorporated with mass 802 00:46:58,860 --> 00:47:00,480 thoughts, project already? 803 00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:03,980 So we don't have to pay for all of the digging and paving. 804 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,080 It's, you know, we need to do this anyway. 805 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,820 So why not do it, you know, kind of on mass thoughts, dive partially and save, you know, 806 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,500 the town money. 807 00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:12,860 Yeah, the shock. 808 00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:15,940 And also we talked about early pay downs on this. 809 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:16,780 Yeah. 810 00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:18,840 on the band of the piece. I'm like, no, it should be mentioned. 811 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,940 Right, so Patrick's point, that should be mentioned too. 812 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,880 Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't want to do that. 813 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,740 Is it in the, oh, we have a bunch of evidence, yeah. 814 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,400 Are we ready to vote on Article 7? 815 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,260 All in favor of Article 7. 816 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,340 I, I, any opposed or abstentions of 7000. 817 00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:48,480 The only thing I put in there that I thought was certainly a critical point. 818 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:52,940 And obviously, you can edit it far more than what I'm going to say is the fact 819 00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:56,780 that it didn't say where it was. So I put that in there. Okay. 820 00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:12,730 Maybe something that says I can in conjunction with the 821 00:48:12,730 --> 00:48:15,530 messed up. Now it's dark. Roger. Yeah. Yeah. 822 00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:16,410 Well, it's a good idea. 823 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,860 Can you junction with the mass project? 824 00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,140 Mass, dark. 825 00:48:24,140 --> 00:48:24,460 Mass. 826 00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:25,320 Do you know what you do? 827 00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:25,840 Do you know what you do? 828 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:26,660 Oh, I'm there. 829 00:48:26,860 --> 00:48:27,520 Follow the transportation. 830 00:48:28,580 --> 00:48:32,320 I know that we asked the question last week, and the select board 831 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,740 asked the same, like, or a codie, brought it off on Monday night. 832 00:48:35,740 --> 00:48:39,740 It's just not have anything to do with the forty-be project that long. 833 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,980 Um, not that we have to say that. 834 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,180 Yeah, no, I wouldn't say that. 835 00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:44,740 Yeah, I'm just saying. 836 00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:45,160 It doesn't. 837 00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:47,140 It was already in one hour. 838 00:48:47,180 --> 00:48:48,420 It was already being planned. 839 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:48,660 Right. 840 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,900 I thought about incorporating it. 841 00:48:50,980 --> 00:48:51,380 It was our plan. 842 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,940 I couldn't think of how the sentence would go, so. 843 00:48:54,380 --> 00:48:56,740 I've done all you just letting Patrick do it. 844 00:48:58,220 --> 00:48:59,120 He's the only one. 845 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,880 He's the only one. 846 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,040 He's the only one. 847 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,900 He's the only one. 848 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,060 He's the only one. 849 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,020 He's the only one. 850 00:49:04,020 --> 00:49:08,240 inside on the language. Instead of saying the water main project, at the intersection of 851 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:12,120 the right road, we would told that it was a project from Fonsecon Road to the right 852 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:18,140 road. So why don't we better root six water main project in the vicinity of Fonsecon 853 00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:23,160 Road and the right road? Okay, good. Better detail. Yep, projects. In the vicinity of all 854 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,420 a little bit farther. That's fine. Because otherwise, you know, you know, you 855 00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:31,380 know how some of the warrant articles are. They're incredibly vague. I like to 856 00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:38,420 It's not necessarily our job to explain every word article in the rationale, right? 857 00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:44,320 Because we have, you know, people on stage that, well, that's the job stuff that we've got it. 858 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,440 I think it is. 859 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:45,780 I don't know. 860 00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:49,060 I just like, you know, we're not from people. 861 00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:49,340 Yeah. 862 00:49:53,060 --> 00:49:55,220 I guarantee you, someone will still ask. 863 00:49:55,460 --> 00:49:56,760 Of course. 864 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,540 That's life, that's life. 865 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,810 I know we like to think that they're reading these rationales, 866 00:50:04,810 --> 00:50:09,690 popped a bottom back to front word for word we could quiz on them, but 867 00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:14,130 I mean when I was a town meeting member, I always know 868 00:50:14,670 --> 00:50:19,090 Some do yeah, I think most do maybe not until they arrive 869 00:50:19,090 --> 00:50:22,910 Others are hoping those envelopes open as they plucked down in the seats 870 00:50:22,910 --> 00:50:25,810 Let me read it 871 00:50:27,130 --> 00:50:30,110 What they think should be read something of that nature okay 872 00:50:32,010 --> 00:50:33,650 Would you like to read it out loud? 873 00:50:33,650 --> 00:50:38,710 Yeah, this project would run in conjunction with a math dot project in the area with math dot 874 00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:44,610 of absorbing some of the construction costs rather than the town paying for it in its entirety. 875 00:50:45,570 --> 00:50:49,030 I'm assuming you left in the to borrow up to 1.6. 876 00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:49,790 That whole, yeah. 877 00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:51,990 Just check it. 878 00:50:53,250 --> 00:50:53,530 Yeah. 879 00:50:53,810 --> 00:50:55,070 But no, that's good detail to have. 880 00:50:56,690 --> 00:50:58,750 And then also John's ended up with a, 881 00:50:58,930 --> 00:50:59,730 all right. 882 00:51:04,210 --> 00:51:09,330 So up higher, let me just read the whole thing, so that you see how it flows, because there is more up above. 883 00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:20,710 This article authorizes the town to borrow up to 1.6 million for the construction of water mains and related costs for the root six water main project in the vicinity of funds corner road and happily road. 884 00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:26,950 The investment will support necessary improvements to the town's water infrastructure and help maintain a reliable public water system. 885 00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:35,270 This project would run in conjunction with a mass.project in the area with mass.absorbing some of the construction costs rather than the town paying for it in its entirety. 886 00:51:35,690 --> 00:51:36,150 Oh, great. 887 00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:39,010 I think that actually sounds very good. 888 00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:39,710 Thank you. 889 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,640 Back to Article H. 890 00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:49,560 Article H. 891 00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:53,540 What? 892 00:51:53,540 --> 00:52:02,080 x is in there, we'll be right, Article 9, Article 9, Article 9, Article 10, Article 10, 893 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:14,780 Article 11, yes, Article 11 to service provider license, so I want to make a motion. 894 00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:20,420 I make a motion, perhaps our motion to approve is written. 895 00:52:20,420 --> 00:52:22,200 I was very happy. 896 00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:25,320 Discussion. 897 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,560 Gary, have any deep thoughts? 898 00:52:29,780 --> 00:52:29,960 I think. 899 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:41,100 I think that the article explained the, you know, about rotation schedules for the top companies and, and such, I mean, it's pretty detail. 900 00:52:41,260 --> 00:52:47,140 And if you read it says, the chief of police, give the authority that chief of the police to do that. 901 00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:48,600 I don't know if you want to go down. 902 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,900 I summarized a lot of that rationale, because yes, this is like a page of description. 903 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:04,660 I just had a question, I just didn't know I'm two things, one is if we know why it's limited to six licenses. 904 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:12,540 Like if there's a bunch of companies in the area, we kind of like precluding, you know, people leaving them out. 905 00:53:13,660 --> 00:53:17,380 And also, is there any fee for the license, I see it renews every year? 906 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,520 I don't know if there's any fee involved and it's in the writing of it, but if they have to like apply to operate in town, 907 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:29,560 Should there be some sort of fee for them to do that every year since they're benefiting monetarily from you know the toes in town 908 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:35,360 I can check on the fee. Okay. It does a fee. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I don't know. I know it says six 909 00:53:36,340 --> 00:53:40,640 Six some yeah, total companies. I'm not sure how many total companies are really in the immediate area 910 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,780 I know this is one of the West Point 911 00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:43,980 We got a couple of dollars 912 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,780 We don't know but the selection process will be honestly, but so I could find a genfie is 913 00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:53,280 Yeah, because I know like for the state police they had a big scandal 914 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,760 about like how they were selecting the people for the list and then became it they had to overhaul the whole process 915 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,160 I mean they they love scandals 916 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,100 Well, they look like cities like I mean Providence for instance 917 00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:09,520 It would always be the same co-toe company always saying toe company that's been being called so I think it I think it 918 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,800 Eliminates a lot of favoritism if you will yeah, and kind of broadens it a little bit and gives the chief of police the discretion to 919 00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:18,800 Make that right so I'm back into bed for the same thing 920 00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:22,620 Well, now they have a list and it's next on the list unless it's operated 921 00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:26,860 I remember that a few years ago, who was a scandal about that. 922 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,760 Ready to vote? 923 00:54:30,860 --> 00:54:30,880 Yep. 924 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,620 All in favor of article 11. 925 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,140 Hi. 926 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,620 Any opposed or abstentions? 927 00:54:37,580 --> 00:54:38,220 70. 928 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,300 Let's see. 929 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,060 That is article 11. 930 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:43,600 Skipping. 931 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:44,080 Skipping. 932 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,380 Okay. 933 00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:07,760 Patrick doesn't need any more detail. 934 00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:09,560 I think you've summarized it well. 935 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,460 Yeah. 936 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:15,200 I said it took a page of whatever, or it's down to. 937 00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:18,480 Hopefully something people understand, and you know that there will be questions. 938 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,180 I'm sure. 939 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,460 Article 12, Water Department Rules and Regulations. 940 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,420 Somebody want to make a motion. 941 00:55:44,660 --> 00:55:45,460 I'll make a motion. 942 00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:46,460 Very mixed motion. 943 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,320 I have to second. 944 00:55:47,980 --> 00:55:48,620 I'll have to. 945 00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:49,700 I'll take a. 946 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:50,260 There. 947 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:51,520 There. 948 00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:55,620 Gary any. 949 00:55:55,620 --> 00:56:08,040 I think it gives the Board of Public Works the authority to make changes to the rules and regulations, as far as being the operations for Board of Sour, Trash, so on and so forth. 950 00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:10,440 Right now he has to go to the select board. 951 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:11,660 No. 952 00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:13,920 Oh, it had to go to town meeting. 953 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:14,980 It was old. 954 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,200 There was old bylaws, something that ended up where everything had to go to town meeting. 955 00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:20,200 This is better. 956 00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:25,540 And you have the five person, the first one, yes, it's much better. 957 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,580 I'm assuming we just married, I think, at the last time, meeting at the one before that, 958 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,720 a change to how regulations can be changed. 959 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:39,780 It has to be noted by 90 or 20 days of education. 960 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,660 The clerk. 961 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,020 Right. 962 00:56:42,020 --> 00:56:45,660 And to the uses of, yes, yes. 963 00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:48,100 Well, this fall under that umbrella. 964 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,060 We need changes to the water regulations. We'll have to be 965 00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:55,840 given whatever it is on the 20 day notice. 966 00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:59,420 Yeah, I would see that it would probably would because 967 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,980 there should be no distinction between the general fund fees that we collect 968 00:57:03,980 --> 00:57:06,100 or any other price funds. 969 00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:08,100 I think it does too. 970 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:09,720 We could say a fee as a fee. 971 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:10,460 That's exactly. 972 00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:12,020 Cover the entire town. 973 00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:13,440 Any border areas? 974 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,720 Change the regulations. 975 00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:16,920 Has to give notice. 976 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,020 notice and can't vote for that change for her ex amount of days. 977 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,260 I'm assuming this would fall on to that. 978 00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:25,240 Yeah. 979 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,840 Do you want me to have an excellent memory? 980 00:57:27,580 --> 00:57:28,280 Yeah, that was done. 981 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,620 Does that last time? 982 00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:29,900 I don't know. 983 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:30,560 Last time meeting. 984 00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:33,060 It was within the year. 985 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:33,600 Yeah. 986 00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:34,200 Yeah. 987 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:34,920 I don't know. 988 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,200 It has to be posted with the clerk. 989 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:36,940 Yeah. 990 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:38,860 I remember that. 991 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,180 And that was the grace period in fall. 992 00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:40,600 Yes. 993 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:41,520 Yep. 994 00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:42,880 Yeah. 995 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,820 My understanding of this was that it really eliminated the town meeting portion. 996 00:57:46,820 --> 00:57:48,660 That's good, that's helpful. 997 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:50,600 Are we ready to vote? 998 00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:51,280 Yeah. 999 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,940 I want a favor of Article 12. 1000 00:57:53,060 --> 00:57:53,340 Hi. 1001 00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:54,160 Hi, everybody. 1002 00:57:54,220 --> 00:57:56,260 Any opposed or abstentions? 1003 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:58,480 70. 1004 00:57:59,180 --> 00:57:59,320 0. 1005 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,340 Article 12. 1006 00:58:10,210 --> 00:58:17,930 I think to mention something about what John said that it still requires notification to citizens. 1007 00:58:18,130 --> 00:58:20,770 They can't just change it immediately at the same time. 1008 00:58:22,990 --> 00:58:25,050 I don't know if we have to put it in. 1009 00:58:25,050 --> 00:58:26,730 I think it's set next to him from now on. 1010 00:58:26,930 --> 00:58:30,770 I think it's a simple clarification from council to somebody that... 1011 00:58:32,370 --> 00:58:35,150 For our next meeting, you say, yes, they have to follow the same process. 1012 00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:36,870 I don't know if we have to put it in. 1013 00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:38,410 No one has to follow it. 1014 00:58:38,550 --> 00:58:40,950 I think it should be clarified for... 1015 00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:41,090 Yeah. 1016 00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:42,210 I know for me. 1017 00:58:43,350 --> 00:58:44,030 No, no. 1018 00:58:44,090 --> 00:58:47,030 We're going to take the power away from town meeting and give it to the board. 1019 00:58:47,290 --> 00:58:49,490 Okay, but you still have to have some sort of process. 1020 00:58:50,590 --> 00:58:53,830 I just want to make sure we're not circumvent what we just did. 1021 00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:55,150 No, that was a good question. 1022 00:58:55,410 --> 00:58:59,410 I don't know, so I think, as I said before, that we have to explain every warrant on that 1023 00:58:59,410 --> 00:59:00,450 level of detail. 1024 00:59:00,970 --> 00:59:06,150 Because somebody's going to ask him, we have a whole board of people on stage to answer 1025 00:59:06,770 --> 00:59:07,210 it. 1026 00:59:08,070 --> 00:59:09,430 We'd follow general procedure. 1027 00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:12,030 For example, general procedure. 1028 00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:14,230 Yeah. 1029 00:59:14,670 --> 00:59:17,410 So I write that in in block for now, change it with follow. 1030 00:59:17,410 --> 00:59:19,010 Yeah, something about general procedures. 1031 00:59:19,490 --> 00:59:20,230 General procedure. 1032 00:59:20,350 --> 00:59:21,110 That's good. 1033 00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:21,270 That's good. 1034 00:59:22,510 --> 00:59:23,110 Who's that? 1035 00:59:23,290 --> 00:59:23,950 We'll be all right. 1036 00:59:24,130 --> 00:59:24,450 procedure. 1037 00:59:24,930 --> 00:59:26,070 No, that would be. 1038 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:34,580 That's it. 1039 00:59:34,580 --> 00:59:36,040 Any changes with follow general procedure? 1040 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,940 I'm going to be the whole thing. 1041 00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:38,400 No, that's just the last sentence. 1042 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,480 That's fine. 1043 00:59:40,780 --> 00:59:42,820 We'll put you on the spot to read the entire paragraph. 1044 00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:43,680 I don't mind. 1045 00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:45,860 All right. 1046 00:59:46,020 --> 00:59:46,600 Where are we? 1047 00:59:46,660 --> 00:59:48,120 Article 13. 1048 00:59:48,660 --> 00:59:49,720 We're good to go. 1049 00:59:49,780 --> 00:59:50,060 Yeah. 1050 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:51,720 Article 13. 1051 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,820 Updates to non-criminal fines for regulations. 1052 00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:57,940 of the Board of Health and Board of Public Works. 1053 00:59:58,780 --> 00:59:59,440 To have a motion. 1054 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,000 Motion to approve the article and full as we're in. I was seconded. 1055 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:29,980 Comments or thoughts, Gary? So this is to really crack down on these inhalants that, you know, that, typically, you see the younger generation using the nitrous oxide and things like that. So very dangerous. And so the, you know, we heard from Chris Micho, who, obviously the director of Board of Health's concern, was that a lot of these establishments in town, they would go in. 1056 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:36,760 pretty much do a single back and then be back on the shelves again so this allows them to actually 1057 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:43,000 find them, find them, if they go back and catch them with their product. So it just puts 1058 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,500 a lot more teeth and regulation. 1059 01:00:48,020 --> 01:00:53,140 Yeah, interesting discussion last week about what these products are. 1060 01:00:53,620 --> 01:00:53,760 Yeah. 1061 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,120 Are we ready to vote? 1062 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:56,460 Yeah. 1063 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,860 All in favor of Article 13. 1064 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:05,440 Any opposed or abstentions? No, 7000. 1065 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:30,820 I would just say a three-on-and-a-dollar fine for each violation pretty clear in the year, but I don't put an hour 1066 01:01:30,820 --> 01:01:33,660 I'll just put in for each for each violation 1067 01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:36,780 Good, 1068 01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:41,560 Carrie, you want to read that 1069 01:01:47,130 --> 01:01:54,740 okay back to the warrant article 14 so 14 if the committee wants to wait 1070 01:01:54,740 --> 01:01:58,000 I don't have the action well I don't have the act we can vote you can the 1071 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,060 committee can vote on it but as far as detail I don't have the job description 1072 01:02:01,060 --> 01:02:05,200 for the beach manager with me okay if you want to know what the duties and responsibilities 1073 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,260 would be for the beach manager I'd like to think parks and wrecks can come up with 1074 01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:11,600 for their position. 1075 01:02:14,420 --> 01:02:17,260 Anybody have any questions on it? 1076 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:18,060 No. 1077 01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:19,740 Ready to vote? 1078 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,460 Actually hang on. 1079 01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:23,100 I have one question. 1080 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:23,600 That's a question. 1081 01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:24,960 No, no. 1082 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,360 I got that. 1083 01:02:25,460 --> 01:02:27,960 But I remember the question that came up at the select board meeting. 1084 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,020 This is an additional position, not. 1085 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:32,620 So I don't know what they have. 1086 01:02:32,660 --> 01:02:33,920 We'll say they have 10 employees. 1087 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,520 So now they have 11. 1088 01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:42,660 So they couldn't take one of their existing ten employees and make one of those the beach manager. 1089 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,940 Okay. Was that posed to them? 1090 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,340 I don't know what the discussion was. 1091 01:02:47,340 --> 01:02:49,140 Is that was the discussion of the select board? 1092 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:50,600 Yes. 1093 01:02:51,340 --> 01:02:54,920 But if the committee wants clarification, we can get it. 1094 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,940 Just for me clarification is 1095 01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:03,960 Somebody, they're going to write a job description for this beach minute title. 1096 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,040 Somebody's doing it now. 1097 01:03:07,420 --> 01:03:10,440 So where does that role fall into now? 1098 01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:14,460 Why all of them do we need a separate role for some of these? 1099 01:03:14,820 --> 01:03:23,200 Well, the comment was managed in whether it's the head-life guide or the pack supervisor or the director. 1100 01:03:24,060 --> 01:03:25,180 Somebody's doing it now. 1101 01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:31,810 The thought was that no one was doing it now, that I guess there were comments complaints whatever you want to call them that 1102 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,700 They weren't being managed 1103 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:43,300 Just meeting when I heard this is a little disturbing game. Is it somebody's job current should be so not something 1104 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:49,000 Well, they don't have that title. I don't want to say it 1105 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:55,160 Or the pay scale. I don't know the pay. I get the committee the actual job description if they want to 1106 01:03:55,160 --> 01:04:00,080 That was my comment because I thought it was a good comment. Why did they need another employee to do this? 1107 01:04:00,260 --> 01:04:02,860 Why can't when they hire? Because they hire every year correct? 1108 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:10,520 Right? Every year they hire. So when they hire, they're 10 employees. Why don't they just take number 10 and make or 1109 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:16,720 Who's ever appropriately, you know, has the skill? Can be the manager? Why do they now need 11 employees? 1110 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,560 I know you can't. I don't know if that question. That's just me rattling on. 1111 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:27,780 wondering why they're trying to get another employee? Because you just hire somebody that has 1112 01:04:27,780 --> 01:04:32,940 the skill set required to manage the other, I know they're all young. But yeah, I think 1113 01:04:32,940 --> 01:04:36,460 they're really being managed. And somebody's handing out their hours and what they're 1114 01:04:37,580 --> 01:04:40,840 whether they're going to be reporting each day which beast they're going to. So, some 1115 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,320 they're not managing their behavior at the time. But I think it's what it's about. 1116 01:04:45,460 --> 01:04:50,400 That means behaving at the beach. I'm just saying from the complaints and comments, I've seen 1117 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:57,340 that's the comment. But there's a go-to. Correct. Yeah, of course they're getting assignments. 1118 01:04:58,060 --> 01:05:00,240 There's a person that's going to hand them out. There's a question. 1119 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,980 Park and recreation department that, you know, they're not being be even properly, whatever. 1120 01:05:06,940 --> 01:05:09,080 But I will put you in charge, Bill. 1121 01:05:11,820 --> 01:05:16,080 We won't have you out of that course. I obviously don't know what I'm not there. 1122 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:23,230 life goes to doing that or so they're so bad, or maybe what they're not doing. They're doing this. 1123 01:05:25,340 --> 01:05:29,840 They don't really know, but I'll just need to have some comments. Yeah, I'm once again. 1124 01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:31,880 Obviously, I'm not the only one watching. 1125 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:44,100 I don't know whether or not they need a beach manager. I'll let Parks and Recs determine that because that's what they do. 1126 01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:47,360 I'm determining why they need another employee to do it. 1127 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,640 Yeah, that's all I'm asking. 1128 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,700 Can we get that answer? 1129 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:53,400 Yeah, I can. 1130 01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:56,160 Because I suggest we wait then. 1131 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,380 Because I'd like to know, because it's like what asked. 1132 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,340 Okay, yeah, we can hold off on that. 1133 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,480 I get the question from who's role is it now? 1134 01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:05,800 It's going to be. 1135 01:06:05,860 --> 01:06:08,400 All right, so who's role is it now? 1136 01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:12,020 Employees misbehaved everywhere in every place. 1137 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,720 Somebody's responsible. 1138 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:15,180 That's correct. 1139 01:06:15,380 --> 01:06:16,360 And who's here tonight? 1140 01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:18,060 There's a future facility. 1141 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,100 We'll get some clarification on the structure. 1142 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:20,940 That's who's here. 1143 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:21,800 All right. 1144 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:22,880 All right. 1145 01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:24,560 We'll see these complaints. 1146 01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:25,720 We'll hold off on. 1147 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,120 Hold. 1148 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,220 Article 15. 1149 01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:37,440 So, Article 15 is, as you know, from the historic storm that we had, there were issues with mainly, 1150 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,920 you know, root six areas, some other parts in town. 1151 01:06:40,460 --> 01:06:48,180 Snow removal on sidewalks. This kind of addresses that. I believe this was also brought up at the last town meeting. 1152 01:06:48,580 --> 01:06:56,520 It certainly was. I was very interesting. Before we get too far into it, we could just make a motion to discuss our good. 1153 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,260 Make a motion. I will second that. 1154 01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:07,080 So yes, I felt like it was 30 minutes, but I'm probably exaggerating how long that discussion was. 1155 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,840 So, they made changes to it, obviously. 1156 01:07:10,180 --> 01:07:10,660 I don't know. 1157 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:11,980 What changes? 1158 01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:15,500 Are we ready to vote? 1159 01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:20,220 Let me think about this for one second. 1160 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,080 The board is like when I believe on Monday night 1161 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,760 made a adjustment to this. 1162 01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:28,160 Okay. They talked about it too. 1163 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,980 Yeah, but I wanted to do like... 1164 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,440 I don't want to say like a, like a first fence and then change maybe change that. 1165 01:07:36,540 --> 01:07:41,660 Oh, yeah. So let's hold off on this and we may want to clean this up a little bit. 1166 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:50,120 I know just going back to town meeting and even our discussion long before, that it was never 1167 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:55,400 intended to like completely target people and end up bringing them to court and all that, that 1168 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,740 that there would be some leeway. 1169 01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,580 But I really like it. 1170 01:07:58,580 --> 01:08:00,120 I didn't even carry me at a good point last year, 1171 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,160 about like elderly. 1172 01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:04,600 Yeah, that was actually my only concern was that, 1173 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,060 you know, if this is gonna affect the elderly 1174 01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:09,240 in some way, that they're not not doing it 1175 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,480 because they're not doing it because they can't do it, right? 1176 01:08:13,620 --> 01:08:15,260 So then that doesn't really solve the problem 1177 01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:17,080 to find them if they're already on it. 1178 01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,420 But I don't know if that's the issue, 1179 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,160 maybe that's not even the issue. 1180 01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:22,220 I think it's the businesses. 1181 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:30,420 You know, during that's like a lot of the storm to no one shovels this I'd walk on so come out in the big box doors and roof six and 1182 01:08:30,420 --> 01:08:35,620 You know, I don't think it was specifically the targets. It was just basically because that was really historic and 1183 01:08:35,620 --> 01:08:37,580 You know, we had people walking on the highway 1184 01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:39,220 And actually because they had the sidewalks 1185 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,460 It was a public safety 1186 01:08:41,460 --> 01:08:43,180 I thought it was not the safety 1187 01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:46,120 It was the proximity of the schools and mile 1188 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,220 Yeah, yeah 1189 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:48,560 Yeah 1190 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:53,520 So there's the fee structure the way they wrote it now is it's only like 20 1191 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,900 Okay, I'm sick and it's actually in my rationale, I think. 1192 01:08:56,180 --> 01:09:10,160 I think it was 25 dollars for non-compliance with higher fines going to commercial properties and properties within one mile of a public school. 1193 01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:13,020 That's the change that was put in this. 1194 01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:15,920 I don't know, as you said, there was something else that was seen. 1195 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,680 I would say we just hold off on a little mixed meeting. 1196 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,600 And then, of course, the fact that, you know, 1197 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,660 it doesn't go into effect until after this declared snow emergency. 1198 01:09:28,440 --> 01:09:32,560 It's not like, you know, one minute after stops falling. 1199 01:09:33,180 --> 01:09:34,520 All right, sure, sure. 1200 01:09:34,820 --> 01:09:37,940 Anyway, wait, because it's Gary said they might be a change. 1201 01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:44,620 All right, Article 16 amendment to fines for domestic animal violations 1202 01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:46,280 to the motion. 1203 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,100 Oh, I'll make a motion. 1204 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:49,800 All second. 1205 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,080 Thank you. 1206 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:53,720 Comments, Gary. 1207 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,540 I mean, I think that this right here is just, you know, 1208 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:04,760 there was some instances in town where there was some really bad dog bites 1209 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,160 and people got hurt. 1210 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,340 I think this cleans up the regulations. 1211 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:08,560 And loose cows. 1212 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:08,920 Yes. 1213 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:10,480 loose cows. 1214 01:10:10,980 --> 01:10:11,180 Down there. 1215 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:11,920 Oh yeah. 1216 01:10:17,540 --> 01:10:20,260 It goes from a slap on the wrist to a little bit. 1217 01:10:20,260 --> 01:10:21,040 Yeah, a little more. 1218 01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:22,540 Yeah. 1219 01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:23,940 Right. 1220 01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:25,240 And it's per animal. 1221 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:26,560 Yes. 1222 01:10:27,060 --> 01:10:27,280 Yeah. 1223 01:10:28,020 --> 01:10:28,920 20 cows get out. 1224 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:29,400 Good luck. 1225 01:10:29,780 --> 01:10:31,320 Wouldn't be the first time I'm driving home. 1226 01:10:31,420 --> 01:10:34,740 And I have to stop and try to get a cow off the side of the road. 1227 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:46,920 yeah it doesn't differentiate no just any animal boy it was a 1228 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,880 conversation there was a lengthy conversation about this Monday night 1229 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,040 as well like they didn't find for the wild turkey yeah we did I mean there was 1230 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,800 there was a police office of it yes I don't know what they heard or luckily she used 1231 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,920 she's the person's okay but the vehicle was totally yeah and it was a great 1232 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,300 vehicle we're getting the deer saying something yeah 1233 01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:10,080 Oh yeah, yeah, it was raised in a small fun. 1234 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,640 We had a stay-a-gill loose and hit by a car and now it was straight. 1235 01:11:13,940 --> 01:11:17,460 Oh yeah, well, we had to be shocked. 1236 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,420 Are we voting on this one? 1237 01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:22,900 We are ready to vote on this. 1238 01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:31,280 All in favor of Article 16, any opposed, extensions, no, 7000, 1239 01:11:38,970 --> 01:11:40,490 fashionals up on the screen. 1240 01:11:41,570 --> 01:11:42,750 Oh yeah, of course. 1241 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:02,700 I'm sorry. 1242 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:04,700 I'm not sorry. 1243 01:12:05,380 --> 01:12:06,740 Can I have any thoughts on this? 1244 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,100 Don't you think 1245 01:12:10,150 --> 01:12:10,570 I can? 1246 01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:11,810 I got a question. 1247 01:12:12,150 --> 01:12:12,350 No, I'm not. 1248 01:12:13,770 --> 01:12:16,830 If they didn't pay it, you find it entirely fashion. 1249 01:12:17,930 --> 01:12:21,790 I'm the late fees that are apply, like I say. 1250 01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:25,350 Some we got, again, the violation is $300 for this animal, 1251 01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:31,360 but as it take for them to pay the fine. 1252 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,700 I'm not sure if this late fees, 1253 01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:38,880 what we usually do is, like everything else, if you have a feel or any kind of permit that 1254 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:45,920 you hold a sound, let's say we give you a violation. We have the ability to attach it to 1255 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,420 another permit, like I said, you can't get a beach ticket, you can't get a, you know, so 1256 01:12:49,420 --> 01:12:55,540 holds up that. Whether there's late fees, I'm not sure there's a late fee on, what's the 1257 01:12:55,540 --> 01:12:58,840 teeth? Yeah, that's the sound type of penalty, I suppose I'm going to get that. 1258 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,440 I'm not paying you in a timely fashion. 1259 01:13:01,140 --> 01:13:02,720 Yeah, well the penalty is really nothing. 1260 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:03,780 The penalty. 1261 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,540 I don't know if there's any additional charges to that. 1262 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,580 Well that's not saying they could not pay a fine for it two years. 1263 01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:09,920 That is very true. 1264 01:13:10,020 --> 01:13:13,000 That's not criminal, so I don't know if it's not going to get marked anywhere. 1265 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:14,540 No, that's what I mean. 1266 01:13:14,540 --> 01:13:17,360 They could all the time for years without paying that fine. 1267 01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:21,780 It should be somehow some type of governance over if you don't have it already. 1268 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,180 There's no liability to it. 1269 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:23,380 Right. 1270 01:13:28,420 --> 01:13:28,820 Yeah, I don't know. 1271 01:13:28,820 --> 01:13:33,480 you're out if we're going to chop if there's any additional teeth in 1272 01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:36,820 let's say that's what I'd be curious to see if there is 1273 01:13:36,820 --> 01:13:39,960 no it's going to know what the policy is I would suspect there's one 1274 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,580 but I mean we could probably issue site you know if they go to 1275 01:13:44,580 --> 01:13:48,600 if they argue you know hearing they'll have probably hearing his person that 1276 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,440 listens to what I'm what I'm not so not the Supreme Court 1277 01:13:53,300 --> 01:14:00,600 Does it go to court that likes a period court to yeah, but then you're paying lawyers to go for what and you're paying 1278 01:14:01,540 --> 01:14:20,780 Yeah, you paid to get into the period. Yeah, it's not playing with it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll just send maybe a leafy might be entertained or something like that 1279 01:14:20,780 --> 01:14:21,700 I don't have a governance. 1280 01:14:22,740 --> 01:14:22,760 Yeah. 1281 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:23,780 Oh, who? 1282 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,000 Who does this come under? 1283 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:26,380 It's like, come under the police. 1284 01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:30,020 And I'm going to control, is that part of the police department? 1285 01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:30,740 I don't know. 1286 01:14:30,820 --> 01:14:31,440 We're bored of health. 1287 01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:32,540 Yeah, they're all bored of health. 1288 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,160 Oh, OK. 1289 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,100 I was just curious, because that's who. 1290 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:35,800 Yep, it's bored of health. 1291 01:14:35,820 --> 01:14:36,840 We'd obviously deal with it. 1292 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,860 I'm sure animal control has other things. 1293 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,840 They penalized people for it. 1294 01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:45,560 Anyway, any thoughts on this? 1295 01:14:46,180 --> 01:14:46,500 No. 1296 01:14:46,740 --> 01:14:47,260 We voted. 1297 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:47,820 Yeah. 1298 01:14:47,820 --> 01:14:50,700 All right, Article 17, 1299 01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:57,960 amendment to general bylaws chapter 87, soil conservation board. 1300 01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:59,960 Motion to approve, as written. 1301 01:15:00,530 --> 01:15:01,610 Do you have a second? 1302 01:15:01,770 --> 01:15:02,270 I will second. 1303 01:15:02,510 --> 01:15:02,630 I will. 1304 01:15:04,430 --> 01:15:04,870 Seconds. 1305 01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:05,190 Gary? 1306 01:15:05,790 --> 01:15:06,010 That's. 1307 01:15:06,370 --> 01:15:09,710 I think it just, if now, we can bind the, uh, 1308 01:15:10,030 --> 01:15:10,950 brings two boards together. 1309 01:15:13,530 --> 01:15:13,970 Questions? 1310 01:15:15,090 --> 01:15:15,750 Ready to vote? 1311 01:15:16,910 --> 01:15:18,450 All in favor of Article 17. 1312 01:15:19,170 --> 01:15:19,610 Aye. 1313 01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:21,250 Any opposed? 1314 01:15:21,890 --> 01:15:24,610 Or extension, seven, zero, zero. 1315 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,220 It makes sense to do that. 1316 01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:44,520 It's not, I think, the end of the week, or there's so much work that they need to 1317 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:51,520 What's the last soil conservation board meeting? 1318 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,520 I've never set one in my time as this point deep on the finance committee. 1319 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,300 So on if there's two woods to get paid extra. 1320 01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:07,520 I don't know. 1321 01:16:07,580 --> 01:16:11,460 And there is one act of I go in a boat on because it behind me. 1322 01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:18,160 But I'll send this out already the updated one there would you meet this in the time that I've been here 1323 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,940 They've been to meetings because we didn't have a person and somebody asked me to 1324 01:16:21,940 --> 01:16:26,760 Sigan on up. It was a long time ago. I had to be a while ago. Yeah, yeah, I'll sit 1325 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:32,060 But I'm not sure why there hasn't been any meeting was that there's at least one act of 1326 01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:35,800 Oh, pit and down. 1327 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,360 Wow. 1328 01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:40,960 The board of health decided it was more easily done that way. 1329 01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:42,200 Which sounds fantastic. 1330 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,940 So I didn't count the ones we still have to vote on. 1331 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,260 I can go through a lot of money. 1332 01:16:47,620 --> 01:16:47,800 Five. 1333 01:16:48,300 --> 01:16:48,980 So articles. 1334 01:16:52,990 --> 01:16:54,030 Just tell me. 1335 01:16:54,750 --> 01:16:55,730 A article five. 1336 01:16:57,130 --> 01:16:58,870 A article eight. 1337 01:16:59,270 --> 01:17:00,210 Hang on a second. 1338 01:17:00,570 --> 01:17:01,120 A article nine. 1339 01:17:02,310 --> 01:17:02,470 Nine. 1340 01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:02,670 Nine. 1341 01:17:09,790 --> 01:17:11,350 14. 14. 1342 01:17:15,550 --> 01:17:21,470 15. 15. Okay, much better. 1343 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:34,200 Did you want to look at the rationale for the articles we did not vote on? 1344 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,080 I'm just waiting until we vote on them. 1345 01:17:37,380 --> 01:17:38,220 Okay, let's find out. 1346 01:17:38,220 --> 01:17:39,780 Unless you don't want to look at them. 1347 01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:41,580 How many do we see them? 1348 01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:42,320 Five. 1349 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:42,820 Five. 1350 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,880 If you want to, I can. 1351 01:17:48,980 --> 01:17:49,740 No, no, that's good. 1352 01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:50,540 Everybody's in the middle. 1353 01:17:50,540 --> 01:17:51,660 Next week you have capital. 1354 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:52,940 The meeting is in a change. 1355 01:17:54,140 --> 01:17:54,300 Right. 1356 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:55,660 Yeah, right. 1357 01:17:56,660 --> 01:17:59,920 And I'll give the additional information that the committee requested and all 1358 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:00,780 Sunday down to you. 1359 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,840 Back to the agenda. 1360 01:18:08,150 --> 01:18:10,750 Well, we don't have a talent in our sliders' update. 1361 01:18:10,890 --> 01:18:11,730 Just really not. 1362 01:18:12,130 --> 01:18:15,850 We'll just update between last week and this week I would say. 1363 01:18:16,690 --> 01:18:19,170 We'll talk about the budget transparency portal. 1364 01:18:19,190 --> 01:18:27,390 We're working on going for the GFAA award to do the budget in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the portal, the other piece of that program. 1365 01:18:28,410 --> 01:18:34,450 And, um, when we work on that now, I think that we've got, we've got a lot of positive feedback on that. 1366 01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:38,330 People that have already gone in and looked, it's nice that you can put your tax bill in or your 1367 01:18:38,330 --> 01:18:45,590 tax bill amount in and get that download, the allocation budget advisory group was 1368 01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:50,850 working on this RFP went back to the school committee to look at that and make and everyone 1369 01:18:50,850 --> 01:18:55,990 on the committee to make changes and hopefully we can maybe move that forward a little bit. 1370 01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:58,090 So there were changes that were made? 1371 01:18:58,090 --> 01:19:01,910 We sent the back to the different groups. 1372 01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:07,030 So we sent the back to the schools to have them visit with a subcommittee and make any recommendations 1373 01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:09,490 that they want to see changes on the RFP. 1374 01:19:09,790 --> 01:19:11,650 And then we're going to be setting another meeting up. 1375 01:19:11,730 --> 01:19:13,810 We haven't been scheduled, which is nice now. 1376 01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:15,730 We haven't been scheduled on the calendar. 1377 01:19:16,490 --> 01:19:19,410 And then, you know, finally, like I mentioned, CIPC will meet. 1378 01:19:19,530 --> 01:19:24,870 We have the balance of certified and next week they'll make the recommendations. 1379 01:19:26,010 --> 01:19:26,790 So you'll have the article. 1380 01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:31,930 I'll type it up after we meet on Wednesday I'll send the article to the committee so they have it. 1381 01:19:34,610 --> 01:19:38,070 So one update just because of the select board meeting that was on Monday night, 1382 01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:42,210 they had a joint meeting with the Planning Board and talked about the, 1383 01:19:42,210 --> 01:19:44,450 is it ballot question seven? 1384 01:19:44,690 --> 01:19:45,550 I have that number right. 1385 01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:50,730 So Gary is trying to arrange having the, I don't know, 1386 01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:52,090 assistant planning director of planning. 1387 01:19:52,290 --> 01:19:53,970 We might have, probably would have, 1388 01:19:55,090 --> 01:19:56,090 Lorraine Miller here. 1389 01:19:56,090 --> 01:19:58,030 And Lloyd Miller, who's the chair of that? 1390 01:19:58,030 --> 01:20:00,110 Yeah, next means to talk about it. 1391 01:20:00,250 --> 01:20:00,390 Correct. 1392 01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:02,770 So I thought it would be after listening to what the planning 1393 01:20:02,770 --> 01:20:05,190 board said, and you can all watch their meeting, obviously. 1394 01:20:05,390 --> 01:20:07,510 But after listening to what the planning board said, 1395 01:20:07,630 --> 01:20:10,150 I thought it was important for us to hear it too 1396 01:20:10,150 --> 01:20:11,370 and be able to ask questions. 1397 01:20:11,450 --> 01:20:15,350 That's why I asked Gary to get it on our agenda, especially 1398 01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:17,610 before the November election. 1399 01:20:18,170 --> 01:20:22,410 So people understood what that ballot question is 1400 01:20:22,410 --> 01:20:25,890 and most important, what it means to the town of Dartmouth 1401 01:20:26,300 --> 01:20:30,590 if that passes and they put through five thousand square foot 1402 01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:34,210 lots everywhere that has town utilities. 1403 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,840 So anyway, next week. 1404 01:20:40,140 --> 01:20:41,060 Liaison reports. 1405 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,840 I'm talking to all we heard from MIS and EMA. 1406 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:56,680 in health. That's right because that was in addition. That's where Chris talked about the 1407 01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,980 need to do a third year of testing of the Slocum River. They're trying to set for PF or you 1408 01:21:01,980 --> 01:21:11,540 remember the conversation a town had with the EP regarding Title V and as usual Chris is on top of 1409 01:21:11,540 --> 01:21:16,940 that and they're trying to look at he said that one of the unique things about the Slocum River is 1410 01:21:16,940 --> 01:21:20,640 but two biggest factors for pollution in that river. 1411 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,820 A nitrogen from 1412 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,420 stormwater, nitrogen, and stormwater, I'm sorry. 1413 01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:30,120 So they want to get some good data. 1414 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:31,660 It has been tested for a long time 1415 01:21:31,660 --> 01:21:32,900 and they want to compare it to that. 1416 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,540 I think it was there early 2000s 1417 01:21:34,540 --> 01:21:36,380 that they did last testing. 1418 01:21:37,180 --> 01:21:39,060 So why he asked for additional money, 1419 01:21:39,260 --> 01:21:41,260 which I can't, how much money was it, do you remember? 1420 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:42,280 18,000, Father. 1421 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,180 I can't pull up my spreadsheet, 18,000, 500, thank you. 1422 01:21:45,180 --> 01:21:47,480 That's right, because the first two years with 20,000, 1423 01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:48,500 they took a phone up. 1424 01:21:49,860 --> 01:21:51,360 And also, the Connected Protect, 1425 01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:53,700 we're trying to make that a little bit more robust 1426 01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:54,280 program. 1427 01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:56,640 We had that with buses-based coalition, 1428 01:21:56,940 --> 01:21:58,160 so also we're trying to get that. 1429 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,420 So there's almost like another reviving's funds set up. 1430 01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:06,200 We used the state funding, which allows for 2% interest loans. 1431 01:22:06,540 --> 01:22:09,520 So we wanted to do some in-house where they, 1432 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,400 you know, tie-and-drop, accepted systems renovation. 1433 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:19,060 I mean, replacement of several seconds, which helps protect, again, the river and reduces 1434 01:22:19,060 --> 01:22:19,700 nitrogen levels. 1435 01:22:19,860 --> 01:22:23,080 So they want to do a program in-house and that want to get awarded to the most 1436 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,680 neediest systems. 1437 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,440 Now, very interesting. 1438 01:22:26,580 --> 01:22:27,700 I think to hear Chris Speakon. 1439 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:28,520 Excellent idea. 1440 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:36,380 It's a cent of the homes that have septic systems on the soccer room that have access to time sewage. 1441 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:42,280 So he was starting about the way to incentivize people to connect. 1442 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:49,620 And it's not income based right now, but at some point in the future could be. 1443 01:22:49,820 --> 01:22:55,460 He gave the example that Bonstville has an excellent, very robust program where they do this for people. 1444 01:22:55,460 --> 01:23:03,620 And it does make it, I remember, I gave the exam, I was benefit beneficiary of this program. 1445 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,400 I first moved to town because I was told that I had to connect. 1446 01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:10,600 And I wouldn't have been able to borrow the money at the time to do that. 1447 01:23:10,940 --> 01:23:13,680 So I was able to get a better minute and eventually paid off. 1448 01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:16,600 It makes it easier for people to do what they need to do. 1449 01:23:16,740 --> 01:23:19,720 It's good for the town, it's good for everything. 1450 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:26,960 But the point was made, Jeanine, like you said at one of the recent meetings, is that make sure 1451 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,400 that they have skin in the game. 1452 01:23:28,540 --> 01:23:34,080 It's not a grant necessarily, although the Connect and Protect program was because there 1453 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:38,240 was money available from Buzzets Bay coalition to assist with that. 1454 01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,020 That's not the assistant that we're talking about because we don't have it, but if it was 1455 01:23:42,020 --> 01:23:47,960 funding that came in, it could be set up into a fund to provide that assistance to other families. 1456 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:53,140 And keep in mind, when we do those programs, we place a lean on the property, so town 1457 01:23:53,140 --> 01:23:57,980 is always protected, and it's sort of a separate measurement program, the town will never 1458 01:23:57,980 --> 01:24:01,100 not recoup that money, because it's placed on the property. 1459 01:24:01,660 --> 01:24:06,520 Chris is very interesting, not that it's necessarily something we need to take up time to 1460 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,480 hear, but he is very knowledgeable. 1461 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:15,260 Oh, he did it, I mean, if you listen to the, if you listen to the CAPC meeting, he's 1462 01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:24,200 So ENA has some upgrades on the equipment that hasn't been done for at least 10 years, maybe 1463 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:24,760 15. 1464 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,380 And that was management information, sorry. 1465 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,380 And then the ENA is looking for a truck. 1466 01:24:33,820 --> 01:24:35,800 A lot of questions about why do we need a truck. 1467 01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:40,320 One of the things that came up that I had questions about, and I don't, again, it's not 1468 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,180 strictly in our review, but that was the one. 1469 01:24:44,180 --> 01:24:46,920 in a long time once in a decade, 1470 01:24:47,180 --> 01:24:51,420 event of Liz at last year, and I had a question about 1471 01:24:51,420 --> 01:24:55,920 what is the response in terms of all the time systems 1472 01:24:56,460 --> 01:24:59,920 because the director talked about how they were, 1473 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:02,000 you know, just a couple of guys running trucks here 1474 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,320 and they had a deliver oxygen, you know, 1475 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,560 other things that people needed, 1476 01:25:06,740 --> 01:25:08,340 but I wanted to have much coordination. 1477 01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:11,360 It was, I mean, everybody was really busy that day, obviously. 1478 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:23,940 But I wonder when our town responses in particular because the five districts are involved in that and we have no involvement in the five districts, we don't know what they have for inventory or equipment or any of that stuff. 1479 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,420 So probably some work that needs to be done at some point in the future. 1480 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,460 But they did request a new truck as the trucks that they vehicles that they have are older. 1481 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:39,680 I guess they had to hand shovel their equipment during that, during that episode, out of the 1482 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,320 council and the ocean storage. 1483 01:25:42,420 --> 01:25:47,700 So an answer to guys that would have a little difficulty in shoveling, so we talked about 1484 01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:53,580 that need to, people like to get something that had a plow on it, so they didn't have to 1485 01:25:53,580 --> 01:25:54,140 do that again. 1486 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,540 And I also looked at that. 1487 01:25:55,540 --> 01:25:59,120 That's always a challenging area in the matter of what, the rubbed the weather is like a different 1488 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:04,520 like Swamp Row, there's no dangerous one, there's a lot of snow. 1489 01:26:04,860 --> 01:26:09,000 We have good people on the Capital Improvement Committee, it's worthwhile watching, 1490 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,360 I think you would learn things. 1491 01:26:10,700 --> 01:26:11,400 Yeah, do you remember that? 1492 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,300 I think they really are different perspectives, huh? 1493 01:26:15,260 --> 01:26:19,280 And, you know, a couple of Bruce and Chris have just had so much experience. 1494 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,600 No crisis IT experience, it's really awful. 1495 01:26:24,180 --> 01:26:27,740 Also, good men, that guy has a good memory for what's been done in the past, so I'm like 1496 01:26:27,740 --> 01:26:28,180 me. 1497 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,320 Anybody else? 1498 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,760 Gary, no, we don't have any minutes yet. 1499 01:26:36,820 --> 01:26:39,980 I think we're going to be getting a couple meetings. 1500 01:26:41,180 --> 01:26:41,700 Next week. 1501 01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:44,780 Any item not known? 1502 01:26:44,980 --> 01:26:47,620 So we are talked about what's going to be on the next agenda, right? 1503 01:26:47,620 --> 01:26:51,680 Obviously finishing the warrant rationals and the voting. 1504 01:26:52,980 --> 01:26:56,360 Planning board members of some sort, 1505 01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaking to us about, whatever, the 5,000 square foot lots, anything else, how do they normal? 1506 01:27:05,380 --> 01:27:10,140 Um, it's an, I know that, uh, so this is all going to be turned in, obviously, to the clerk before. 1507 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,500 Well, I think we're pretty good, good shape. 1508 01:27:12,780 --> 01:27:15,060 Send this off to the clerk, probably next week. 1509 01:27:15,140 --> 01:27:17,640 We should be able to have it done, um, 1510 01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:21,400 shouldn't speak the carry. 1511 01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:24,940 Um, before the, uh, select board meeting on Monday night. 1512 01:27:25,820 --> 01:27:27,520 Yeah, I think we could, because that's not sweet. 1513 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,800 That's not the clerk's deadline. 1514 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,600 Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. 1515 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:30,860 See that. 1516 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,840 It's just so that it's like board can see it and see our board. 1517 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,560 Yeah, I just sent it back out to everybody. 1518 01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:36,140 Yeah, I'll go. 1519 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:36,580 I'll go. 1520 01:27:36,620 --> 01:27:36,800 I'll go. 1521 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:37,340 I'll go. 1522 01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:44,720 So in terms of open meeting was we can look at that and get it back to you. 1523 01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:45,300 Correct. 1524 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:46,980 We can't do a reply all. 1525 01:27:47,180 --> 01:27:48,260 Right, don't reply all. 1526 01:27:48,700 --> 01:27:50,140 Yeah, you mean you have comments now? 1527 01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:52,240 Yeah, sure, of course. 1528 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:52,700 Let's see. 1529 01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:53,460 Yeah, we have. 1530 01:27:53,460 --> 01:27:56,300 All the guys that I've got be here, but I will send comments to you. 1531 01:27:56,940 --> 01:27:57,500 Yeah, sure. 1532 01:27:57,500 --> 01:28:00,520 But he's input, obviously, because you voted on it. 1533 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:05,580 So motion to adjourn. 1534 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:08,240 No second. 1535 01:28:08,380 --> 01:28:09,420 I will second then. 1536 01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:09,980 Oh, I'm favor. 1537 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:11,000 Hi.