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[0:01] I'd like to call the Finance Committee meeting to order on September 17th. Please join me for the pledge of
[0:11] allegiance.
[0:12] I would like the United States America to develop all the territories in one nation, under God into Israel, to live in justice for all.
[0:25] The police note that this meeting is in person, but it is being recorded.
[0:34] It had a big night ahead of us, warrant article review.
[0:38] So, as we go through, Madam Chair, we have the one articles that we can do, the majority of them, I think tonight,
[0:43] to make me a couple that we have to wait till next week, especially the capital where they're meeting.
[0:47] On next Wednesday to finalize the request from the departments, I invited Buddy Baker Smith
[0:51] come in and talk about Article 1 and he's here if we want to start.
[0:56] Of course.
[0:58] I want to join us, Buddy.
[0:59] Thank you for taking the time.
[1:06] Thank you.
[1:07] We have one CPC is bringing forward one article for the October town meeting, which is
[1:14] recommendation for town meeting to approve $1 million in CPA funds for the
[1:23] past-commanded Valley Conservation Project. And that is the project will be to
[1:33] preserve put under conservation restriction about 29 acres. The property that's
[1:41] I think we typically refer to as a Hawthorne Country Club property.
[1:48] This is a joint application from the town of Dartmouth, and the buzzer-based coal-lition
[1:56] buzzers-based proposing to purchase that parcel, and that CPA funds are to go to the town
[2:06] Dartmouth to purchase the conservation restriction on that piece of property and a couple
[2:15] of things. We've had a review. We've asked some questions and got responses. There are a couple
[2:20] of things that are outstanding, but the main thing is they're in the process of getting
[2:27] an appraisal of that parcel.
[2:32] What the value of the conservation restriction will be on that
[2:36] So, it's one of the things that we look at because the amount of CPF funds should not exceed the
[2:46] the appraised value of the conservation restriction.
[2:49] So, that work is underway and expected to be done well before town meeting.
[2:57] So, let me stop there and please, there are questions.
[3:01] Yeah, of course this was this is part of the area that I guess would be the inside the proposed
[3:15] conservation.
[3:17] That was going to be developed for those 65 housing units, I'm not mistaken, okay.
[3:22] Now, he been working with the developer as far as mapping out the restricted lands and
[3:29] what he's going to be doing in the summer area there too,
[3:33] that I'll feel you familiar with that are really wetlands
[3:37] and what you guys are advocating,
[3:39] recreational paths and all that.
[3:44] And I probably have two questions.
[3:45] I guess you've been working with the developer.
[3:47] And secondly, what are you going to do with these lands
[3:49] that may not be either buildable or used
[3:52] to refuse or recreation or what are your planning plans
[3:56] on that going forward?
[3:57] Well, I just had clarifies, so the town has been the one in conversation with the developer, the current owner and the person, the developer that's interested in acquiring the property, so the CPC hasn't been involved in any of those conversations, so what was presented to us is the plan would be for another developer to purchase the property.
[4:28] It would need to be subdivided so that the back part of the property, the 29 acres,
[4:39] that a bunch of the Pascemans River would be under a conservation restriction,
[4:46] and then the remaining part of the current parcel would be developed by the new owner.
[4:52] And as we understood it, that would result in a reduction in the number of units that would be located in that area as the current proposal, I think that the town has seen from the current owner would have built on all of that land.
[5:08] And so I think one of the things that was, particularly, I think, several members of the CPC commented on it.
[5:16] It's just, this seems to be a very positive use to the CPA fund, protects some land.
[5:24] Certainly, along the, about the aquifers, the town wells, as well as come up with a more reasonable,
[5:37] size development for that site that seems to be more in line with what the
[5:43] community and a butters kind of where we're hoping for. So, that's saying some
[5:50] of those 29 acres would be in over to a sold-to-developer. No, those 29
[5:57] acres would be that we're talking about here and this article or the ones that
[6:02] would be, ultimately, under a conservation restriction.
[6:09] With the, excuse me, with the parcel being owned by
[6:12] the Southern Bay Coalition, and there would be no
[6:17] development. There would be passive recreation,
[6:22] the new
[6:23] developer, the remaining parcel that can be developed, would
[6:29] provide access to the conservation area?
[6:33] No, I see.
[6:34] So that's outside of the 20, because there's a lot of more.
[6:38] Yeah, there's no possible.
[6:39] Yes, outside of the 29 acres.
[6:42] No, I understand.
[6:43] Thank you.
[6:44] So I was just looking at the map.
[6:46] It looks like this.
[6:46] Two parcels.
[6:47] One is in the buildable areas where the country cliff was.
[6:52] It looks like so.
[6:53] Yeah.
[6:53] I think the parcel has to be subdivided, so I think what you see is that the illustration
[6:59] of how it would be subdivided at that time.
[7:04] I think that the article is proposed, checks a lot of boxes for the positive.
[7:10] I mean, we've seen over the last year that nothing gets people moving, kind of like a 40-V
[7:15] proposal to be vocal and I think a lot of the most of the town sentiment was negative if
[7:20] we don't want it with different effects.
[7:23] And I think that having the age-restricted proposed community one cuts down like you said
[7:28] on the number of units.
[7:30] which is good for, you know, concerns people had with traffic. We have an aging population in town, so the
[7:36] age restrictor community, I think will be good for people that want to remain in Dartmouth. I have
[7:41] a place to possible by and then maybe even if they have generational homes that they've lived in,
[7:45] free up to have more homes on the market for younger families to move in. Also with the age restriction,
[7:51] you know, having an impact on the schools, which I know was a concern for some people. So I think,
[7:55] know, it checks a lot of boxes and kind of answers the concerns that a lot of people had.
[8:01] When I read the documents we got, I just had two questions that came up.
[8:05] One is the fundraising portion for the million and 40,000.
[8:10] And so fundraising to be ongoing, is that through Buzzets Bay coalition, do you know, are
[8:15] they going to be raising those bonds?
[8:17] Yes.
[8:17] That's what they presented, they would raise the rest of the funds to acquire that property.
[8:23] And then the second was with the proposed recreation area,
[8:26] which I think is good.
[8:27] I was just looking at the GIS map
[8:29] and the parcel that the town already owns
[8:32] comes down in a strip, almost to talk a row,
[8:35] but there's a home there on the corner.
[8:36] And I think the only access would be the country
[8:38] called Bolivod through the new development
[8:41] or through fairway drive.
[8:44] And so I just didn't know like access-wise
[8:47] if there was any conversation with Buzzets Beable,
[8:50] how people are gonna access this land,
[8:52] Because I think if you're going through someone's street, there's going to be kind of a pushback,
[8:56] but I don't think there's any easier way to get into a, you know, a parking area.
[9:00] Yeah, I think that's where what was the response was that the new developer that would take
[9:08] on that front part would in laying out a site plan for a development would provide in that
[9:17] site plan.
[9:17] access through to the conservation area.
[9:21] So it wouldn't deal with the fairway or the kind of stuff.
[9:24] Because I know that would be the next battle that you'd fight.
[9:27] So, okay, thank you for that.
[9:30] Anybody else?
[9:32] I just had one comment.
[9:33] Oh, okay.
[9:34] And I'm very happy that you're here and very happy that you'll be at the
[9:39] term meeting because this is one of those projects.
[9:41] Again, like I can think of around the band was one of them.
[9:45] The project that we went through last year.
[9:47] people need to understand the parameters or what this is and what it is and what it is and what
[9:52] it is and what it is.
[9:52] It is a great shot of explaining that to people.
[9:55] Great.
[9:56] I will hopefully continue to do that.
[9:59] Yes.
[10:01] Now these are the kind of projects we love to see.
[10:03] I realize it is not possible to buy up all the land there is and protect it.
[10:09] I think Dartmouth does an admirable job though, especially with some of the nonprofits that we work with.
[10:16] it's fantastic how much land has been protected. I know there are those that will still
[10:21] and have squawk a little bit because they're still housing being built. Well, it wasn't possible
[10:27] to buy the whole parcel. Yeah, and, you know, it's a balanced, balanced development. It's a balanced
[10:33] agenda. I think that's, I think that's one of the things if this would enable this to go forward
[10:39] a more if you will palpable way it includes important housing development which is still important
[10:48] for people in town and the growth of the town and all that but really important protections
[10:55] and a balance so yeah this is a really good example and I'll try to be clear about we're talking
[11:01] about the conservation restriction here and there are other plans and other avenues that could
[11:06] committees and boards that deal with the development aspect of that site, so I'll try to
[11:13] try to clear about that.
[11:14] And that's the more realistic, in my opinion, the way that land should be developed, combination,
[11:20] protection, and a small amount of units, because at one time, I'm not mistaken,
[11:26] they were, I guess, going to build perhaps at 200 and something units on that land.
[11:31] I knew it down to 187, I went down to 65, which makes a lot more sense.
[11:36] Yeah.
[11:37] Well, Kudos to the town administration that clearly has been working hard to try to find
[11:42] a way forward and this was then brought to us.
[11:46] I just also want to be clear that CPC did not come up with this elegant solution.
[11:53] It was brought to us and we supported it wholeheartedly.
[11:58] Great.
[11:59] And the other questions or comments?
[12:04] Thank you.
[12:04] Thank you so much.
[12:05] take in the time to join us. Thank you all. Good to see you. All right.
[12:09] Thanks buddy. Take care.
[12:14] So we have 17 articles. I know they're not all
[12:17] boardable. My question to you is you want to go through and vote the ones we can and then
[12:22] go back and look at the rationales or go back and forth. I like to vote the ones that we can
[12:31] and then go back to the rationales. How about you, don't you usually write the rationales after you
[12:38] There's a draft, there's a draft, there's a draft, there's a draft, there's a draft
[12:40] of the rationales, which I say you, I mean, you didn't spend all afternoon reading it.
[12:45] I'm very, very helpful.
[12:46] I mean, do you vote on, I mean, I think you talk about the rational, after you vote on
[12:49] the article.
[12:50] You typically.
[12:51] We can.
[12:52] We can.
[12:52] The rapid all up.
[12:54] I mean, get it done.
[12:54] I mean, get this simple one.
[12:56] It's probably wouldn't take us long to talk about it.
[12:58] We can't do that.
[12:59] We can't do that.
[12:59] We can't do that.
[13:00] We can't do that.
[13:01] after whatever you've said and done and then.
[13:04] Does the sense you're right about them when you think about them?
[13:07] What's your hair?
[13:08] Yeah, sure, why not?
[13:09] No, I'm going back and forth, I just think.
[13:10] I'm asking to see what people prefer.
[13:16] Carry, if you could, on the draft that I sent you, the word doc,
[13:20] and you keep track of the voting, that way, the votes in there.
[13:25] I mean, I could do it, but then my stuff's on the screen.
[13:27] So it's going to be hard for me to flip back and forth, put the voting in,
[13:30] and go back to the article.
[13:31] That's all.
[13:33] Okay, so I'm going to ask today.
[13:35] Yes, sir.
[13:35] Seven, I'll ask today.
[13:37] Gary, I have the...
[13:41] Give us a list of the articles we can vote on this evening.
[13:44] Has the Slackman voted on these articles?
[13:47] No, we bring it to the Slackman first.
[13:49] We make our recommendations first.
[13:51] They're going to vote on on the 20...
[13:53] Yeah.
[13:54] The next meeting of the 28th.
[13:56] We'll give them our recommendations.
[13:59] They'll like to read our recommendations.
[14:06] They went through these at the last select board meeting, I mean, Cody went through everything and they talked about them a little bit, but yeah, there was no voting.
[14:13] And then some of them are not final anyway.
[14:15] Yeah, the 28th they will vote on it.
[14:20] Without recommendations, I want to find this committee's results.
[14:23] Anyway, I'm not going to read the entire article.
[14:26] I will simply read the heading of the article.
[14:29] So, Article 1 is the Community Preservation Committee, Paschamance at Valley Conservation Project,
[14:36] which we just heard, Buddy Baker Smith, described to us, do I have a motion?
[14:42] I'll make a motion, too.
[14:45] Can we make some motion?
[14:46] I can.
[14:47] Second, from Patrick, any discussion?
[14:52] Are we ready to vote?
[14:54] All in favor of Article 1?
[14:58] Aye.
[14:58] Any opposed?
[14:59] Bye-bye.
[15:00] No. Any abstentions? No. So that's seven. So we have to do it there.
[15:08] How do you want me to read the rationale and if we can put it up on the screen?
[15:14] Oh, look. Okay. Okay.
[15:23] Good, not for you. Just one comment before we go to the first article one rationale in the top part of our template that we use to do the rationale.
[15:35] I added that section, the section is not new, the section was in another place on the
[15:41] warrant rationales before.
[15:43] But this way just covers everything that may or may not have a financial implication.
[15:49] Basically, that we have to make a recommendation to town meeting on every warrant article,
[15:54] regardless of whether the article involves a financial matter.
[15:58] So now it's just part of the template.
[15:59] I think that's good.
[16:01] Because it was on the other one.
[16:03] Yeah, that way it's there and then however the articles are listed they may or not be listed in that order
[16:09] I think last time for whatever reason the non-financial ones came after so we had that in the middle of the rationale
[16:20] Anyway, do you want to read it yourself? So you want it to be read to you?
[16:25] I
[16:32] like that it clarifies it's a conservation restriction like you mentioned the body in that way
[16:37] It's clear what it's for, and that it mentions the, you know, aligns with the objectives
[16:42] and also protecting the aquifer, aquifer, which I think is important.
[16:45] Right.
[16:46] That actually, yeah.
[16:47] When I went through the document, I realized that that was a point that should be made.
[16:50] I realized that there'll be a map passed out.
[16:53] I'm sure, a town meeting, and it will show where all the water wells are behind that.
[17:02] So, I thought that was important.
[17:05] changes, there are a big thoughts, John.
[17:09] Yeah, a big part of this, as we all know, is the, this is a much better alternative to
[17:16] what the talent is facing right now with a 40B project.
[17:20] So even though it's separate, it is tied together.
[17:23] There's no question about it when we view it at the CPC.
[17:26] You know, why not come out and say this, this article is tied to the existence of the
[17:33] This thing approved 40B project, and this alternative presents a much better solution to the
[17:42] town.
[17:43] And John makes a good point because as I understand that if this does not pass, it could
[17:48] revert back to the original project.
[17:50] Absolutely.
[17:52] I think that's a good point.
[17:53] I think that's a good point.
[17:53] That people do tie it together because if they don't vote for it, it's going to revert
[17:57] back.
[17:57] It's just worth mentioning.
[17:59] No, that's fine.
[17:59] That's a sentence.
[18:00] Kerry, how would you like it to read?
[18:03] Yeah, that's it.
[18:05] That's just how did I just said this?
[18:07] That's it.
[18:08] Why don't we do it back on watch the video?
[18:11] This project goes in and in here with the 40B requirements for the time.
[18:15] It's something like that.
[18:16] This parcel is tied to the 40B approved 40B project.
[18:24] If approved provides a better alternative.
[18:31] than the 40B project?
[18:34] I would suggest changing it from tied to one component of just because the spot is making
[18:41] the point that it's not people who need to be clear about what it is and is it?
[18:46] But I think you're absolutely right to put something in about this because it checks boxes
[18:51] as Patrick said not just for that, but for the population of the town that is always being
[18:57] right up that we're not really, you know, prioritizing them.
[19:02] Maybe it's worth it somewhere in a way.
[19:04] Like if approved, this would provide a, I want to say, reasonable alternative of
[19:10] something like that, to the proposed 40 B residences at Hawkeh.
[19:15] That's possible.
[19:16] That's possible.
[19:17] That's possible.
[19:17] It's very great.
[19:18] Thank you.
[19:20] So the proposed 40 B development, known as the residences at Hawkeh one.
[19:24] Okay, I'm done to the rights of Mr. Forty Bae.
[19:28] Development, I'm known as the residences at Arthur.
[19:31] I want to propose to as the residences at Arthur.
[19:35] Residents at that heart, aren't they?
[19:39] And that's that, yeah.
[19:41] Good.
[19:43] I'm going to need to write that a little bit, but yeah.
[19:49] Article two, appropriation to the stabilization fund.
[19:54] Somebody want to make a motion.
[19:56] I'll make a motion to approve.
[19:58] I'll second.
[20:01] Any discussion?
[20:02] Comments?
[20:03] Gary Hayson.
[20:04] All this will bring our balance to close to about 14.3 million.
[20:07] Dollars and Stabilization Fund, which is in line with the financial policies in the
[20:13] town, being a certain percentage of the operating revenues operating budget, excuse me.
[20:21] And while it's still fresh in my mind, that would be good to put that figure into the rationale.
[20:27] But we'll get to that.
[20:29] Anybody else have a comment or question?
[20:33] Ready to vote?
[20:34] All in favor of Article 2.
[20:37] I.
[20:38] Any opposed or abstentions?
[20:41] So 7.0.
[20:44] 7.0.
[20:45] 7.0.
[20:45] Yep.
[20:47] And what was that amount that I need to add to the rationale?
[20:50] the bounce. 14, let's say 14.3 million.
[21:00] I would also maybe add that this annual contribution is important to ensure the town
[21:06] retains its AAA-bound rating. Okay, yeah. And as Gary said, it aligns what have financial
[21:12] policy. Yes, it's also aligns with terms financial policy, so you can say that.
[21:20] Didn't
[21:22] I feel your pain in your way, Bonnie.
[21:29] You want to read it when you're done.
[21:32] Yeah.
[21:32] Wait a minute.
[21:33] I have to.
[21:34] That way we can say it about.
[21:35] Hear the flow.
[21:36] This annual contribution.
[21:38] You said something about that.
[21:39] This annual contribution is important to ensure the town
[21:43] routines.
[21:44] It's triple a bond reading.
[21:47] And then.
[21:48] And I'll, would you say a line?
[21:49] In the lines.
[21:50] the lines with the town's financial policies?
[21:53] I'm sure and lines.
[21:55] No, to ensure the town retains its triple a bond reading.
[22:08] The line left.
[22:10] And then after that in the lines with the town's financial policies.
[22:15] Is that what you said financial policies?
[22:18] Yes.
[22:20] When you send it out too well, proofreading.
[22:22] Please.
[22:23] Would it be greatly appreciated?
[22:25] It'll get lots of proofreading.
[22:27] And I would really appreciate that.
[22:29] I would appreciate them.
[22:36] I mean, I added to the end this article, so it's also out this article proposed as an appropriation of 250,000 from surplus revenue and transfers this amount to the stabilization fund. This transfer amount is primarily attributed to the stabilization fund's current balance of greater than 10% of the town's operating revenues. The balance of 14.3 million. What else do we want to write after that?
[23:01] Is that just the balance? Is that where it is?
[23:04] The balance is 14.3 million. The balance is 14.4 million.
[23:08] Okay, the balance is 14.3 million.
[23:12] This annual contribution is important to ensure the town routines.
[23:15] It's AAA, bond rating, and aligns with the town's financial policies.
[23:20] It sounds good.
[23:21] Okay, all right. I can unhighlight that one.
[23:25] I would leave it high-load to avoid the final copy of it.
[23:28] You got it.
[23:29] That way we can go back and give it a little bit more.
[23:31] one's over. Perfect. All righty. Is Article 3 ready for voting? Yes.
[23:40] Question 2 for Article 3. So hang on one second. Is that some correct?
[23:45] Yes. Okay.
[23:49] All right. Article 3. Appropriation to the stabilization fund for collective bargaining and non-union agreements.
[23:56] Do we have a motion to approve?
[23:57] I'll connect with the motion to the pool.
[24:00] And a second?
[24:01] A second.
[24:02] Any discussion?
[24:05] Let's look at the comments on the side.
[24:07] It was just about the is the number accurate,
[24:12] which I just asked.
[24:13] Gary, do you have any comments on this?
[24:17] Maybe maybe the same.
[24:18] We could leave on part of the town.
[24:20] Most of the financial policies.
[24:22] We could probably get something at the balance.
[24:24] Let me see what we've got to talk about.
[24:26] Are you talking about the rationale?
[24:28] Yes.
[24:29] Did you take, did you vote already on that?
[24:30] We did.
[24:30] We did.
[24:31] We did.
[24:31] We just, we were discussing.
[24:33] We just, we were discussing.
[24:34] Okay.
[24:35] Sorry.
[24:37] We got to keep up with Gary.
[24:40] Sorry.
[24:42] Anyway, did you have any comments about this article, Gary?
[24:45] No.
[24:46] This will help us out with, obviously, you know, we're in,
[24:50] collect the bargaining with all four unions and what we typically do with this we started this
[24:55] fund quite some time ago and it just
[24:59] continues to fund that so that once we get to union contract negotiations we can
[25:06] use this fund and we need it we will need it as you'll see in another article but we will be
[25:10] up the bottom of the night because those contracts have been settled but for what we also
[25:15] did we kind of gave a little bit to the schools last year when we tried to help them out with the budget
[25:19] That's right, so this is not just town, it's also available for any kind of increase that we may need to adjust.
[25:28] So we're just to refresh my memory.
[25:30] We probably have discussed this before.
[25:32] But that $150,000 when you say helps with the collective bargaining, what if you want to do a deeper dive?
[25:39] What would that entail?
[25:40] Will you go through your needs?
[25:42] I don't know.
[25:44] The salaries.
[25:44] The actual salaries.
[25:45] The salaries itself.
[25:48] And the only the hours itself is that it's just the way that you just want to get.
[25:55] Ready to vote?
[25:58] All in favor?
[26:00] Aye.
[26:00] Any opposed or abstentions?
[26:03] So seven zero.
[26:05] Zero zero zero.
[26:06] All right.
[26:06] And then going over to the rational for Article 3.
[26:19] So Kara, you can obviously take the red away from the sun.
[26:23] wasn't sure if that was fine on but I did okay yeah because it's definitely
[26:28] it's the final number Gary would you mentioned to add the balance of the
[26:33] account yes so so let's see where it reads
[26:47] this is this is not carries right
[26:50] hmm this isn't like carries using no no we're not the same right so we can add
[26:55] that the balance is a 1.1 million 1.1 million 1.1 million
[27:00] carries editing it but this is this is what she's doing for her yeah yeah and we obviously
[27:06] finalized the 150,000 I got a little help over here so
[27:13] it's preceded Patrick is an excellent
[27:16] wordsmith he hit that something
[27:25] yes join Gary made a point that this is for four unions I think
[27:30] that's an important statement so in the middle of the first sentence which is set aside to resolve
[27:38] contract negotiations with four unions for all staff for unions for all staff
[27:44] Santa correct state and yeah I would I would I say four unions
[27:51] Yeah
[27:53] We have four unions
[27:55] Was there a union that's not settled in this though?
[27:59] It does say excluding the school
[28:01] But that was the only one that's not included in this
[28:05] Correct
[28:05] I mean, just read this for a second.
[28:07] I'm trying to know if you've lost that experience, but I'm not going to.
[28:14] I'm sorry.
[28:15] I'm sorry.
[28:15] I just thought it last meeting that Cody had said there was three out of four that we're
[28:23] going to be.
[28:24] Well, so right now we have, this four units.
[28:26] Right now we have, we're going to most likely have laborers and still work are settled.
[28:33] DTA and police probably won't be settled for this contract for this town meeting.
[28:37] So you'll see those articles coming up.
[28:41] We don't have a dollar amounts for those.
[28:43] Yeah, but we'll have to do those next week.
[28:46] I would leave this as purely the balance.
[28:48] And if we also want to mention that there are four unions,
[28:53] I don't know how you want to put it maybe four unions in.
[28:57] I'll take advantage of that.
[28:58] If you have, we're mentioning those.
[29:02] The steel workers and other articles.
[29:05] So what was this article?
[29:06] The fund all the fund we can put the fund the four unions if you want to mention to defend but remaining
[29:13] If you want to mention those four unions
[29:14] There's people won't know who the four unions are
[29:17] Oh, and
[29:19] You know where do we start and stop? I think it's important when you look at especially the total one point one plus another
[29:26] There's like what union is getting this yeah because it all appears is one union
[29:30] So I think it's important it was like this is for union. Yeah
[29:35] And whether or not the community wants to listen,
[29:39] so maybe after all staff like
[29:41] Comma represented by four unions, which include laborers, steel workers, USW.
[29:48] But they have more articles in here there.
[29:51] Right, but that's to, I think the point John's trying to make is those articles
[29:56] at the spend.
[29:57] This is the fund.
[29:59] So it could be unclear.
[30:00] The public could say probably say, well, you know, what is the use on it?
[30:03] Then you should, you know, be clear, put funding, you know, and then, and the other act was put, you know, to expand, settle.
[30:14] Well, those articles are particular for this issue, you know, so this is not a question.
[30:17] Yeah, but this is for, after funding, the other ones, the confusion I had, what are we doing here, we just for spending, this is for funding.
[30:25] This is for spending, this is for funding, this is for funding, this is for funding, this is for funding.
[30:29] Spend comes out of the each individual order, but what I think to John's point you must have mentioned that what is this the fund
[30:36] The four unions. Why would I have any problem without this one me clear when the circle's about
[30:40] The fund is the whole use but so please at least brotherhood. I don't know if you want to leave the list. Police brotherhood
[30:46] I think if you say four unions, somebody's gonna say well, what are the unions right which is set
[30:52] Which is set aside to resolve contract negotiations for
[30:56] Maybe just do another sentence after this after the excluding the school department and then say the four unions represent it or the four unions
[31:06] Yeah, this might be appropriated. Yeah for you, but you know, are police brother
[31:11] Yeah, yeah
[31:13] Yeah, so that you're just include that's brilliant. Exactly. So it's about as blatant the obvious
[31:18] This is a funding part. Yeah, not a spending out money is being appropriated for
[31:23] or I would say to settle the contract.
[31:26] What do everyone want to say?
[31:27] Fundamentally, we should settle the contract.
[31:31] Do we want to say which one the contract is before you?
[31:34] Yeah.
[31:35] You have to list the union.
[31:37] I put like a semi-colon and then list them I would say.
[31:40] Then you can take out exclusive score.
[31:42] Please, brotherhood.
[31:44] Police, brotherhood.
[31:46] Is it still work is scary?
[31:48] You asked W.
[31:51] You know, it's still workers or maybe spell it out.
[31:54] Oh, you asked W.
[31:55] You asked W.
[31:55] You know, it's still workers.
[32:01] Whoops.
[32:01] Yep.
[32:02] Okay.
[32:04] Missing one.
[32:05] Dometh Town.
[32:06] Employee Association.
[32:08] Dometh.
[32:08] T-E-A.
[32:10] Town.
[32:11] Employee Association.
[32:13] Police.
[32:15] And laborers.
[32:17] Laborers.
[32:18] Yes.
[32:19] Okay.
[32:20] I will fix my miss spelling.
[32:22] Okay, thank you, move on.
[32:24] Do you want to read it?
[32:26] You want me to?
[32:26] No, it was.
[32:28] No.
[32:30] Let's just assume, yes.
[32:33] All right, so this money is being appropriated.
[32:38] It's settled contracts for four unions and then in parenthesis, police, brotherhood, United
[32:42] Steel Workers, Dartmouth Town Employee Association and Laborors.
[32:47] There you go.
[32:51] the general laws chapter 40 section five be in a stance of procedure one existing contracts and nearing expiration.
[32:57] Did you say this money?
[33:01] This is a appropriation.
[33:03] Oh, this appropriation. Why did you go to money?
[33:05] Because it doesn't make sense.
[33:07] That's where.
[33:10] Okay.
[33:10] This article appropriates or.
[33:14] This article appropriates.
[33:17] So what do we want to say?
[33:18] I'm sorry.
[33:19] So, again, this article is, uh, this article appropriates, uh, what it appropriates funds to settle
[33:26] the contract, is that what the word you want, because no one here did it say, well,
[33:31] you should put the amount of funds, somehow, however you want to work this sentence.
[33:35] These funds are, we refer to it as this article that these funds are being appropriated, that's
[33:41] what I said.
[33:42] Right.
[33:43] That's what it originally said.
[33:44] Originally said after the excluding school department is that these funds are being,
[33:48] These funds are appropriated to settle the contracts before unions, do you want to say something different than that?
[33:54] That's not the first sentence, right?
[33:56] No.
[33:56] Okay.
[33:57] Okay, fine.
[33:58] Yeah.
[33:59] We can read through it.
[34:00] I said, we'll get another cancel.
[34:03] Yeah.
[34:03] Yeah.
[34:03] And then I'll just fix my.
[34:06] Yeah.
[34:07] That was a draft.
[34:09] Yeah.
[34:09] It's going to be a draft until we vote on everything and everybody agrees on all the words.
[34:17] We have time.
[34:19] Where are we?
[34:21] Article 4, appropriation to the stabilization fund for long term capital is the figure
[34:29] $300,000 Act of Gary.
[34:32] Somebody should approve.
[34:34] Thank you.
[34:35] Second.
[34:37] Discussion.
[34:38] Gary, have any comments?
[34:39] Well, this fund, as the committee knows, was established a couple of years ago to address
[34:45] a lot of the longer-term capital issues that we would have in town and borrowings that we
[34:50] would have in town.
[34:51] We used some of this last year $500,000 for the schools for the fire system that they
[34:58] had to replace.
[34:59] We replaced the $500,000 back, so we're asking for an additional $300,000 to be put
[35:04] in the account, which would bring it to roughly about 1.3 million.
[35:08] And these are for, again, the longer term, bigger, bigger projects, capital, excuse me,
[35:16] CIPC focuses mainly on those smaller items.
[35:21] This would be for larger initiatives.
[35:26] I believe this is also part of my financial policy.
[35:30] Well, this account is relatively new, newer.
[35:35] I have the RFA looking over, actually the financial policies, I want to introduce those back into the committee, so if there's any changes that we need to add, we may want to add this because I don't think this was not in the end.
[35:46] Right, I don't think this was around when the original financial policies for some years ago were established, but we do need to look at those.
[35:54] I have her looking at them and she's going to come back at least a draft or revisions to that.
[35:59] So we may have to change this potentially the name.
[36:03] No, no, no, no, the check-out.
[36:04] No, this is the war article we're looking at, so no.
[36:07] Yeah, the name doesn't change.
[36:08] Good morning.
[36:08] How are you talking about that?
[36:09] I'm talking about it.
[36:10] We're talking about the stabilization.
[36:12] This is a new funding disorder.
[36:13] No, no.
[36:13] This front has been around for about a couple years now.
[36:16] It's not a new fund.
[36:18] It's not a new fund.
[36:19] It's not a new fund.
[36:20] It's not a financial policy.
[36:20] It's not a tax law financial policy.
[36:22] Oh, I see.
[36:23] So we would want to revise those financial policies to include that we have a long-term capital
[36:28] stabilization fund and that.
[36:30] That was my confusion.
[36:31] Yeah, we're going to, and, and our FAs, looking at that. Okay. I'm going to understand.
[36:35] Thank you. This is in the second sentence at Capital Meads in, so first in that with period.
[36:43] And then in front of the next section, right, the goal of this week finished voting on this article.
[36:50] Oh, my god.
[36:52] I'm sorry.
[36:54] Can't you see?
[36:56] The first thought you was changing the warrant wording.
[36:58] Maybe next time we've got we've got a boat in it.
[37:02] We're going to go back.
[37:04] We're going to go this time.
[37:06] We're going to go this time.
[37:07] I have a few.
[37:09] Sorry, Terri.
[37:11] Oh, yeah.
[37:12] I need some.
[37:13] Anyway, she was much nicer than me, Terri.
[37:16] Oh, thank you.
[37:18] We ready to vote.
[37:21] All in favor of Article 4.
[37:23] Aye.
[37:24] Any opposed or extensions?
[37:26] So, 7, 0, 0, all right, okay.
[37:30] Now, what did you want to do? No. It's a head-on over. And where it says, Major facility and capital needs, we're just not.
[37:37] The second sentence, the end. Yeah, if I see it, put a period after capital needs. Because I think we'd need a lot more money in this, in this,
[37:46] the goal is to find to actually reduce reliance on future borrowing. So I would say, the goal of this appropriation,
[37:56] of the goal of this stabilization of our list to reduce reliance on
[37:59] future borrowing and less than the impact of a lot of the still
[38:02] the beginning there is on page of budgets and tax base yeah that's
[38:07] perfect that was an easy fix
[38:09] it was an easy fix and don't forget 300,000 is the part of the
[38:12] block yeah I mean we're I mean we're running when I'm telling you one
[38:16] point I'll get I think we should actually put in here is the act the
[38:19] exact numbers and I'll get those for next week so we can drop those
[38:22] exact numbers for the rationale okay you know if it's pennies and
[38:26] you know I think we should probably put the most the current we're post interest to this
[38:31] these accounts every month and everything so I'll get those exact numbers we can drop those
[38:35] in next week. That's fine I thought for a minute there you were telling us the numbers in the
[38:38] Warren. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just checking.
[38:42] No, I'm just checking. Oh, sure, that's checking. Okay, so article we're back to the Warren.
[38:48] Article five is not ready. I'm assuming seeing a lot of that will be ready on there.
[38:54] So we won't bother to look at the rationale.
[38:57] I want six.
[38:59] Six is ready.
[39:01] Okay, so article six, general by law amendment of chapter 37, section six, revolving funds.
[39:10] I make a motion to the article.
[39:12] I'll second.
[39:15] Discussion.
[39:17] Little summary for us.
[39:19] You know, like we went over the last week when a Cody explained,
[39:22] This is mainly for maintenance and repairs of the vehicles, you know, a lot of these vehicles are moving in capital.
[39:30] We looked at when the chief presented to us the maintenance on these vehicles.
[39:34] We talked about idle times, and even though these vehicles sit, it's still a drain on the engines.
[39:41] It's a drain on all the pots and everything.
[39:43] So we have winter tariffs and these vehicles that we need to address.
[39:47] So this was set up a revolving fund to capture some of that.
[39:49] The revenue that we build for like details and then be able to spend it on maintenance and what happens to it right now
[39:59] What happens to the money that comes in from the operations it's through their operation
[40:05] So if and like you'll see in the police bombs budget you'll see like vehicle repair and maintenance
[40:11] And they're having to pay for all the repair and maintenance out of those vehicles and that gets budget every year
[40:16] This would keep a closer track.
[40:18] Think of it as like the bucket, for instance,
[40:21] when they charge fees, then they go to town
[40:23] meeting and have to ask for additional fees,
[40:26] ask for additional to elevate those balances that they can use.
[40:31] Let's say they bring in $200,000, and they spend $150,
[40:36] but they really have $200,000 in revenue.
[40:38] We have to go to town meeting to up that amount.
[40:40] So every year they can spend up to what they bring in
[40:42] in revenues.
[40:43] So that's basically what we're trying to do
[40:44] to set this up as a revolving fund.
[40:45] So any revenues that we capture on this account strictly will go from vehicle maintenance.
[40:49] Do they already have a cruiser use fee or is this a new fee that they're adding?
[40:53] I believe they do, I think this, it's very minimal.
[40:56] Was $10.
[40:58] Just to get the cruiser.
[41:00] Yes.
[41:00] Not the staffing.
[41:01] And I think they looked around the comparable communities and it's a lot higher in compare
[41:05] communities.
[41:06] Is there an admin fee too, or is it just, because I know like, I, I, I had details
[41:10] that matter, boys.
[41:10] They don't have a cruiser fee, but they have a admin fee, I think it's 10% that they
[41:15] on top is like I guess a processing 10% of the detail amount yeah I had the impression that
[41:21] they're moving forward in some way to look at that fee and yeah they preach it because that's
[41:26] what they said at the select board you think yeah when you think about how many details they're on
[41:32] tell them you have to do a lot okay add to this account and you know offset the maintenance then why not
[41:37] do it you know yeah definitely any more questions or John yeah Gary not every detail has a cruiser
[41:44] some of them are personal vehicles.
[41:47] Is there a personal vehicle?
[41:51] You mean we're talking about, they don't have a vehicle.
[41:54] I'd say 50% of them, they bring their own vehicle
[41:56] to the job site.
[41:58] So do they get charged a fee when that happens?
[42:03] The vendor, who would have to check this
[42:05] whether or not they get a cruise, they
[42:06] recharge a cruise of free, because if that's the case,
[42:08] the cruise originally isn't there,
[42:10] they do get charged a detail fee.
[42:12] I understand that, but if there's no cruise
[42:14] there. He's going to be charging them. Yeah, I get used to feed from him. Yeah, I'm not sure if they
[42:20] if didn't seem it, it was only. Yeah, I don't have a cruise. If somebody is specifically asked
[42:25] for a car. Of course, if somebody that, if they ask him for a cruise like, you know,
[42:29] ever source, there's a lot of working town, obviously they're working on utilities, they're using
[42:34] they're using probably police detail, but yeah, you're right. There are sometimes that you see the
[42:37] person at many times, it's just, or it's a mix of a person's yeah, sometimes we'll have a cruise
[42:41] So I think to the John's point, I think now a lot of offices in town, especially in certain
[42:48] special assignments, they're going to take home cruisers.
[42:52] So I think they can use that to go to court, they can use that to go to the detail.
[42:55] But if the person ordering the detail didn't request the cruiser, they still can take it there.
[43:00] But I don't think you can charge the person for it.
[43:03] Yeah, they didn't request it.
[43:05] But we can ask the chief on the detail if it's an idea.
[43:09] If we're actually charging for cruisers of that, if they're using personal use of that.
[43:16] No, I'm requesting.
[43:18] That's a good point.
[43:19] Be interesting how they govern that.
[43:21] Or is it just the flat fee?
[43:23] Like, did they just charge everybody?
[43:24] Like, and not call it.
[43:25] But we know that they definitely want it for their fee?
[43:27] Yeah.
[43:28] I want them to charge it for their fees.
[43:30] I want them to charge it for their fees.
[43:30] Yeah.
[43:33] Because it was a conversation about how low that was.
[43:35] Yeah.
[43:35] I can ask the chief.
[43:36] I don't know if that would hold up the voting on the warrant.
[43:38] No, I think I don't think so. I think it's a clarification.
[43:43] And we can always revise it if we don't get to something.
[43:46] The way that they track it is when they do the intake, they have a form they fill out.
[43:51] I think if you ask for a cruiser, they circle that.
[43:53] Maybe that's how they build the fee only to certain, to certain people who actually ask for it.
[44:00] Just some clarification.
[44:02] Yeah, we're only voting whether or not they're going to create a police cruiser revolving.
[44:06] Yeah, I think we all get it.
[44:10] If you're saving, I would say, if I don't know if it's on auto-save, I've noticed the lights are lights for like a little bit.
[44:15] I'm just automatic. I'm just automatic. I'm just automatic.
[44:18] I'm just automatic.
[44:18] But now they say it out to double set.
[44:21] The battery's running off.
[44:22] No. Well, I'm not on power here anyway.
[44:25] Okay.
[44:27] Are we ready to vote?
[44:29] All in favor of Article 6.
[44:31] Hi.
[44:32] Hi. Any opposed or abstentions?
[44:35] So, 7-0, 2-0, and
[44:41] we're actually out, we'll be...
[44:43] I don't think it's much to talk about, but...
[44:47] Anyway...
[44:47] This is what I wrote.
[44:54] Yeah, that seems like it's...
[44:55] Yeah.
[44:55] Pretty good.
[44:58] Yeah, that's true.
[44:58] Yeah, good.
[45:00] Good.
[45:02] It's a winner. Yeah.
[45:05] Alrighty. Article 7, we're ready to vote on, is that correct? Yes.
[45:11] So Article 7, appropriation and authorization to borrow for Route 6 Water Main.
[45:20] Motion?
[45:21] Make a motion. That's a motion. Bill 2, discussion, Gary.
[45:27] This gives us the authorization to borrow, obviously, if we were going to do something
[45:30] to be, you know, bands at first, but we also talked about maybe using some available funds
[45:36] and not having to go up for the 1.6 million in, you know, the entire amount, but we still
[45:44] haven't, we don't know yet, we're still looking at that, but this just gives us new authorization
[45:47] tomorrow.
[45:48] Just a little more.
[45:49] Just a little more.
[45:50] Just a little more.
[45:50] Just a little more.
[45:53] Just a little more.
[45:54] That's how I mean, the clarify where the money is going to be coming from.
[45:59] Well, it would be the authorization.
[46:02] Yeah, but what fun would you take it from?
[46:04] Well, this is what this is what I mean.
[46:07] So I'm not sure if they said it was going to be,
[46:10] well, that's my point.
[46:12] Because they said it was going to be, I don't think it's water.
[46:17] I don't think it's water, I don't know if it's water.
[46:17] You're not going to take it out in any enterprise form.
[46:20] You know, it's being borrowed.
[46:22] Yeah.
[46:24] If we were to take it from available revenues, either way, we can find out where it's going to come from.
[46:28] Either retain earnings from the, from the, from the enterprise funds or general fund free cash.
[46:33] Because if someone asks you, exactly, you need to clarify where we would have come from.
[46:41] Again, we think it's going to be a little bit less than this.
[46:44] But we budget, we're asking for 1.6, but again we, we'll get the detail on someone,
[46:50] What's someone asked about?
[46:51] Oh, yeah.
[46:51] What does it mean?
[46:52] And is this the...
[46:53] This is the project that we will be saving because it's incorporated with mass
[46:58] thoughts, project already?
[47:01] So we don't have to pay for all of the digging and paving.
[47:04] It's, you know, we need to do this anyway.
[47:06] So why not do it, you know, kind of on mass thoughts, dive partially and save, you know,
[47:10] the town money.
[47:12] Yeah, the shock.
[47:13] And also we talked about early pay downs on this.
[47:16] Yeah.
[47:16] on the band of the piece. I'm like, no, it should be mentioned.
[47:19] Right, so Patrick's point, that should be mentioned too.
[47:21] Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't want to do that.
[47:22] Is it in the, oh, we have a bunch of evidence, yeah.
[47:24] Are we ready to vote on Article 7?
[47:31] All in favor of Article 7.
[47:33] I, I, any opposed or abstentions of 7000.
[47:45] The only thing I put in there that I thought was certainly a critical point.
[47:48] And obviously, you can edit it far more than what I'm going to say is the fact
[47:52] that it didn't say where it was. So I put that in there. Okay.
[48:08] Maybe something that says I can in conjunction with the
[48:12] messed up. Now it's dark. Roger. Yeah. Yeah.
[48:15] Well, it's a good idea.
[48:21] Can you junction with the mass project?
[48:23] Mass, dark.
[48:24] Mass.
[48:24] Do you know what you do?
[48:25] Do you know what you do?
[48:26] Oh, I'm there.
[48:26] Follow the transportation.
[48:28] I know that we asked the question last week, and the select board
[48:32] asked the same, like, or a codie, brought it off on Monday night.
[48:35] It's just not have anything to do with the forty-be project that long.
[48:41] Um, not that we have to say that.
[48:43] Yeah, no, I wouldn't say that.
[48:44] Yeah, I'm just saying.
[48:44] It doesn't.
[48:45] It was already in one hour.
[48:47] It was already being planned.
[48:48] Right.
[48:49] I thought about incorporating it.
[48:50] It was our plan.
[48:51] I couldn't think of how the sentence would go, so.
[48:54] I've done all you just letting Patrick do it.
[48:58] He's the only one.
[49:00] He's the only one.
[49:00] He's the only one.
[49:01] He's the only one.
[49:02] He's the only one.
[49:03] He's the only one.
[49:04] inside on the language. Instead of saying the water main project, at the intersection of
[49:08] the right road, we would told that it was a project from Fonsecon Road to the right
[49:12] road. So why don't we better root six water main project in the vicinity of Fonsecon
[49:18] Road and the right road? Okay, good. Better detail. Yep, projects. In the vicinity of all
[49:23] a little bit farther. That's fine. Because otherwise, you know, you know, you
[49:27] know how some of the warrant articles are. They're incredibly vague. I like to
[49:32] It's not necessarily our job to explain every word article in the rationale, right?
[49:38] Because we have, you know, people on stage that, well, that's the job stuff that we've got it.
[49:44] I think it is.
[49:45] I don't know.
[49:45] I just like, you know, we're not from people.
[49:49] Yeah.
[49:53] I guarantee you, someone will still ask.
[49:55] Of course.
[49:57] That's life, that's life.
[49:59] I know we like to think that they're reading these rationales,
[50:04] popped a bottom back to front word for word we could quiz on them, but
[50:09] I mean when I was a town meeting member, I always know
[50:14] Some do yeah, I think most do maybe not until they arrive
[50:19] Others are hoping those envelopes open as they plucked down in the seats
[50:22] Let me read it
[50:27] What they think should be read something of that nature okay
[50:32] Would you like to read it out loud?
[50:33] Yeah, this project would run in conjunction with a math dot project in the area with math dot
[50:39] of absorbing some of the construction costs rather than the town paying for it in its entirety.
[50:45] I'm assuming you left in the to borrow up to 1.6.
[50:49] That whole, yeah.
[50:50] Just check it.
[50:53] Yeah.
[50:53] But no, that's good detail to have.
[50:56] And then also John's ended up with a,
[50:58] all right.
[51:04] So up higher, let me just read the whole thing, so that you see how it flows, because there is more up above.
[51:09] This article authorizes the town to borrow up to 1.6 million for the construction of water mains and related costs for the root six water main project in the vicinity of funds corner road and happily road.
[51:20] The investment will support necessary improvements to the town's water infrastructure and help maintain a reliable public water system.
[51:27] This project would run in conjunction with a mass.project in the area with mass.absorbing some of the construction costs rather than the town paying for it in its entirety.
[51:35] Oh, great.
[51:36] I think that actually sounds very good.
[51:39] Thank you.
[51:44] Back to Article H.
[51:49] Article H.
[51:52] What?
[51:53] x is in there, we'll be right, Article 9, Article 9, Article 9, Article 10, Article 10,
[52:02] Article 11, yes, Article 11 to service provider license, so I want to make a motion.
[52:15] I make a motion, perhaps our motion to approve is written.
[52:20] I was very happy.
[52:24] Discussion.
[52:26] Gary, have any deep thoughts?
[52:29] I think.
[52:30] I think that the article explained the, you know, about rotation schedules for the top companies and, and such, I mean, it's pretty detail.
[52:41] And if you read it says, the chief of police, give the authority that chief of the police to do that.
[52:47] I don't know if you want to go down.
[52:49] I summarized a lot of that rationale, because yes, this is like a page of description.
[52:55] I just had a question, I just didn't know I'm two things, one is if we know why it's limited to six licenses.
[53:05] Like if there's a bunch of companies in the area, we kind of like precluding, you know, people leaving them out.
[53:13] And also, is there any fee for the license, I see it renews every year?
[53:17] I don't know if there's any fee involved and it's in the writing of it, but if they have to like apply to operate in town,
[53:23] Should there be some sort of fee for them to do that every year since they're benefiting monetarily from you know the toes in town
[53:29] I can check on the fee. Okay. It does a fee. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I don't know. I know it says six
[53:36] Six some yeah, total companies. I'm not sure how many total companies are really in the immediate area
[53:40] I know this is one of the West Point
[53:42] We got a couple of dollars
[53:44] We don't know but the selection process will be honestly, but so I could find a genfie is
[53:50] Yeah, because I know like for the state police they had a big scandal
[53:53] about like how they were selecting the people for the list and then became it they had to overhaul the whole process
[53:58] I mean they they love scandals
[54:00] Well, they look like cities like I mean Providence for instance
[54:03] It would always be the same co-toe company always saying toe company that's been being called so I think it I think it
[54:09] Eliminates a lot of favoritism if you will yeah, and kind of broadens it a little bit and gives the chief of police the discretion to
[54:15] Make that right so I'm back into bed for the same thing
[54:19] Well, now they have a list and it's next on the list unless it's operated
[54:22] I remember that a few years ago, who was a scandal about that.
[54:28] Ready to vote?
[54:30] Yep.
[54:30] All in favor of article 11.
[54:33] Hi.
[54:34] Any opposed or abstentions?
[54:37] 70.
[54:40] Let's see.
[54:41] That is article 11.
[54:43] Skipping.
[54:43] Skipping.
[54:45] Okay.
[55:06] Patrick doesn't need any more detail.
[55:08] I think you've summarized it well.
[55:10] Yeah.
[55:11] I said it took a page of whatever, or it's down to.
[55:15] Hopefully something people understand, and you know that there will be questions.
[55:18] I'm sure.
[55:36] Article 12, Water Department Rules and Regulations.
[55:42] Somebody want to make a motion.
[55:44] I'll make a motion.
[55:45] Very mixed motion.
[55:46] I have to second.
[55:47] I'll have to.
[55:48] I'll take a.
[55:50] There.
[55:51] There.
[55:54] Gary any.
[55:55] I think it gives the Board of Public Works the authority to make changes to the rules and regulations, as far as being the operations for Board of Sour, Trash, so on and so forth.
[56:08] Right now he has to go to the select board.
[56:11] No.
[56:12] Oh, it had to go to town meeting.
[56:14] It was old.
[56:15] There was old bylaws, something that ended up where everything had to go to town meeting.
[56:19] This is better.
[56:20] And you have the five person, the first one, yes, it's much better.
[56:27] I'm assuming we just married, I think, at the last time, meeting at the one before that,
[56:30] a change to how regulations can be changed.
[56:35] It has to be noted by 90 or 20 days of education.
[56:40] The clerk.
[56:42] Right.
[56:42] And to the uses of, yes, yes.
[56:45] Well, this fall under that umbrella.
[56:48] We need changes to the water regulations. We'll have to be
[56:53] given whatever it is on the 20 day notice.
[56:56] Yeah, I would see that it would probably would because
[57:00] there should be no distinction between the general fund fees that we collect
[57:03] or any other price funds.
[57:07] I think it does too.
[57:08] We could say a fee as a fee.
[57:10] That's exactly.
[57:10] Cover the entire town.
[57:12] Any border areas?
[57:13] Change the regulations.
[57:15] Has to give notice.
[57:16] notice and can't vote for that change for her ex amount of days.
[57:21] I'm assuming this would fall on to that.
[57:24] Yeah.
[57:25] Do you want me to have an excellent memory?
[57:27] Yeah, that was done.
[57:28] Does that last time?
[57:29] I don't know.
[57:30] Last time meeting.
[57:31] It was within the year.
[57:33] Yeah.
[57:34] Yeah.
[57:34] I don't know.
[57:34] It has to be posted with the clerk.
[57:36] Yeah.
[57:37] I remember that.
[57:39] And that was the grace period in fall.
[57:40] Yes.
[57:41] Yep.
[57:42] Yeah.
[57:42] My understanding of this was that it really eliminated the town meeting portion.
[57:46] That's good, that's helpful.
[57:49] Are we ready to vote?
[57:51] Yeah.
[57:51] I want a favor of Article 12.
[57:53] Hi.
[57:53] Hi, everybody.
[57:54] Any opposed or abstentions?
[57:58] 70.
[57:59] 0.
[58:00] Article 12.
[58:10] I think to mention something about what John said that it still requires notification to citizens.
[58:18] They can't just change it immediately at the same time.
[58:22] I don't know if we have to put it in.
[58:25] I think it's set next to him from now on.
[58:26] I think it's a simple clarification from council to somebody that...
[58:32] For our next meeting, you say, yes, they have to follow the same process.
[58:35] I don't know if we have to put it in.
[58:37] No one has to follow it.
[58:38] I think it should be clarified for...
[58:40] Yeah.
[58:41] I know for me.
[58:43] No, no.
[58:44] We're going to take the power away from town meeting and give it to the board.
[58:47] Okay, but you still have to have some sort of process.
[58:50] I just want to make sure we're not circumvent what we just did.
[58:53] No, that was a good question.
[58:55] I don't know, so I think, as I said before, that we have to explain every warrant on that
[58:59] level of detail.
[59:00] Because somebody's going to ask him, we have a whole board of people on stage to answer
[59:06] it.
[59:08] We'd follow general procedure.
[59:09] For example, general procedure.
[59:14] Yeah.
[59:14] So I write that in in block for now, change it with follow.
[59:17] Yeah, something about general procedures.
[59:19] General procedure.
[59:20] That's good.
[59:21] That's good.
[59:22] Who's that?
[59:23] We'll be all right.
[59:24] procedure.
[59:24] No, that would be.
[59:33] That's it.
[59:34] Any changes with follow general procedure?
[59:36] I'm going to be the whole thing.
[59:37] No, that's just the last sentence.
[59:38] That's fine.
[59:40] We'll put you on the spot to read the entire paragraph.
[59:43] I don't mind.
[59:45] All right.
[59:46] Where are we?
[59:46] Article 13.
[59:48] We're good to go.
[59:49] Yeah.
[59:50] Article 13.
[59:51] Updates to non-criminal fines for regulations.
[59:54] of the Board of Health and Board of Public Works.
[59:58] To have a motion.
[1:00:00] Motion to approve the article and full as we're in. I was seconded.
[1:00:05] Comments or thoughts, Gary? So this is to really crack down on these inhalants that, you know, that, typically, you see the younger generation using the nitrous oxide and things like that. So very dangerous. And so the, you know, we heard from Chris Micho, who, obviously the director of Board of Health's concern, was that a lot of these establishments in town, they would go in.
[1:00:31] pretty much do a single back and then be back on the shelves again so this allows them to actually
[1:00:36] find them, find them, if they go back and catch them with their product. So it just puts
[1:00:43] a lot more teeth and regulation.
[1:00:48] Yeah, interesting discussion last week about what these products are.
[1:00:53] Yeah.
[1:00:54] Are we ready to vote?
[1:00:56] Yeah.
[1:00:57] All in favor of Article 13.
[1:00:59] Any opposed or abstentions? No, 7000.
[1:01:24] I would just say a three-on-and-a-dollar fine for each violation pretty clear in the year, but I don't put an hour
[1:01:30] I'll just put in for each for each violation
[1:01:36] Good,
[1:01:40] Carrie, you want to read that
[1:01:47] okay back to the warrant article 14 so 14 if the committee wants to wait
[1:01:54] I don't have the action well I don't have the act we can vote you can the
[1:01:58] committee can vote on it but as far as detail I don't have the job description
[1:02:01] for the beach manager with me okay if you want to know what the duties and responsibilities
[1:02:05] would be for the beach manager I'd like to think parks and wrecks can come up with
[1:02:10] for their position.
[1:02:14] Anybody have any questions on it?
[1:02:17] No.
[1:02:18] Ready to vote?
[1:02:21] Actually hang on.
[1:02:22] I have one question.
[1:02:23] That's a question.
[1:02:24] No, no.
[1:02:24] I got that.
[1:02:25] But I remember the question that came up at the select board meeting.
[1:02:28] This is an additional position, not.
[1:02:31] So I don't know what they have.
[1:02:32] We'll say they have 10 employees.
[1:02:34] So now they have 11.
[1:02:36] So they couldn't take one of their existing ten employees and make one of those the beach manager.
[1:02:43] Okay. Was that posed to them?
[1:02:45] I don't know what the discussion was.
[1:02:47] Is that was the discussion of the select board?
[1:02:50] Yes.
[1:02:51] But if the committee wants clarification, we can get it.
[1:02:55] Just for me clarification is
[1:02:58] Somebody, they're going to write a job description for this beach minute title.
[1:03:04] Somebody's doing it now.
[1:03:07] So where does that role fall into now?
[1:03:10] Why all of them do we need a separate role for some of these?
[1:03:14] Well, the comment was managed in whether it's the head-life guide or the pack supervisor or the director.
[1:03:24] Somebody's doing it now.
[1:03:25] The thought was that no one was doing it now, that I guess there were comments complaints whatever you want to call them that
[1:03:32] They weren't being managed
[1:03:35] Just meeting when I heard this is a little disturbing game. Is it somebody's job current should be so not something
[1:03:44] Well, they don't have that title. I don't want to say it
[1:03:49] Or the pay scale. I don't know the pay. I get the committee the actual job description if they want to
[1:03:55] That was my comment because I thought it was a good comment. Why did they need another employee to do this?
[1:04:00] Why can't when they hire? Because they hire every year correct?
[1:04:03] Right? Every year they hire. So when they hire, they're 10 employees. Why don't they just take number 10 and make or
[1:04:10] Who's ever appropriately, you know, has the skill? Can be the manager? Why do they now need 11 employees?
[1:04:18] I know you can't. I don't know if that question. That's just me rattling on.
[1:04:21] wondering why they're trying to get another employee? Because you just hire somebody that has
[1:04:27] the skill set required to manage the other, I know they're all young. But yeah, I think
[1:04:32] they're really being managed. And somebody's handing out their hours and what they're
[1:04:37] whether they're going to be reporting each day which beast they're going to. So, some
[1:04:40] they're not managing their behavior at the time. But I think it's what it's about.
[1:04:45] That means behaving at the beach. I'm just saying from the complaints and comments, I've seen
[1:04:50] that's the comment. But there's a go-to. Correct. Yeah, of course they're getting assignments.
[1:04:58] There's a person that's going to hand them out. There's a question.
[1:05:01] Park and recreation department that, you know, they're not being be even properly, whatever.
[1:05:06] But I will put you in charge, Bill.
[1:05:11] We won't have you out of that course. I obviously don't know what I'm not there.
[1:05:16] life goes to doing that or so they're so bad, or maybe what they're not doing. They're doing this.
[1:05:25] They don't really know, but I'll just need to have some comments. Yeah, I'm once again.
[1:05:30] Obviously, I'm not the only one watching.
[1:05:36] I don't know whether or not they need a beach manager. I'll let Parks and Recs determine that because that's what they do.
[1:05:44] I'm determining why they need another employee to do it.
[1:05:47] Yeah, that's all I'm asking.
[1:05:51] Can we get that answer?
[1:05:53] Yeah, I can.
[1:05:54] Because I suggest we wait then.
[1:05:56] Because I'd like to know, because it's like what asked.
[1:05:58] Okay, yeah, we can hold off on that.
[1:06:00] I get the question from who's role is it now?
[1:06:04] It's going to be.
[1:06:05] All right, so who's role is it now?
[1:06:09] Employees misbehaved everywhere in every place.
[1:06:12] Somebody's responsible.
[1:06:14] That's correct.
[1:06:15] And who's here tonight?
[1:06:17] There's a future facility.
[1:06:18] We'll get some clarification on the structure.
[1:06:20] That's who's here.
[1:06:21] All right.
[1:06:22] All right.
[1:06:23] We'll see these complaints.
[1:06:25] We'll hold off on.
[1:06:28] Hold.
[1:06:29] Article 15.
[1:06:30] So, Article 15 is, as you know, from the historic storm that we had, there were issues with mainly,
[1:06:37] you know, root six areas, some other parts in town.
[1:06:40] Snow removal on sidewalks. This kind of addresses that. I believe this was also brought up at the last town meeting.
[1:06:48] It certainly was. I was very interesting. Before we get too far into it, we could just make a motion to discuss our good.
[1:06:56] Make a motion. I will second that.
[1:06:59] So yes, I felt like it was 30 minutes, but I'm probably exaggerating how long that discussion was.
[1:07:07] So, they made changes to it, obviously.
[1:07:10] I don't know.
[1:07:11] What changes?
[1:07:14] Are we ready to vote?
[1:07:17] Let me think about this for one second.
[1:07:20] The board is like when I believe on Monday night
[1:07:23] made a adjustment to this.
[1:07:25] Okay. They talked about it too.
[1:07:28] Yeah, but I wanted to do like...
[1:07:30] I don't want to say like a, like a first fence and then change maybe change that.
[1:07:36] Oh, yeah. So let's hold off on this and we may want to clean this up a little bit.
[1:07:41] I know just going back to town meeting and even our discussion long before, that it was never
[1:07:50] intended to like completely target people and end up bringing them to court and all that, that
[1:07:55] that there would be some leeway.
[1:07:58] But I really like it.
[1:07:58] I didn't even carry me at a good point last year,
[1:08:00] about like elderly.
[1:08:01] Yeah, that was actually my only concern was that,
[1:08:05] you know, if this is gonna affect the elderly
[1:08:07] in some way, that they're not not doing it
[1:08:09] because they're not doing it because they can't do it, right?
[1:08:13] So then that doesn't really solve the problem
[1:08:15] to find them if they're already on it.
[1:08:17] But I don't know if that's the issue,
[1:08:18] maybe that's not even the issue.
[1:08:21] I think it's the businesses.
[1:08:24] You know, during that's like a lot of the storm to no one shovels this I'd walk on so come out in the big box doors and roof six and
[1:08:30] You know, I don't think it was specifically the targets. It was just basically because that was really historic and
[1:08:35] You know, we had people walking on the highway
[1:08:37] And actually because they had the sidewalks
[1:08:40] It was a public safety
[1:08:41] I thought it was not the safety
[1:08:43] It was the proximity of the schools and mile
[1:08:46] Yeah, yeah
[1:08:48] Yeah
[1:08:48] So there's the fee structure the way they wrote it now is it's only like 20
[1:08:53] Okay, I'm sick and it's actually in my rationale, I think.
[1:08:56] I think it was 25 dollars for non-compliance with higher fines going to commercial properties and properties within one mile of a public school.
[1:09:11] That's the change that was put in this.
[1:09:13] I don't know, as you said, there was something else that was seen.
[1:09:15] I would say we just hold off on a little mixed meeting.
[1:09:19] And then, of course, the fact that, you know,
[1:09:21] it doesn't go into effect until after this declared snow emergency.
[1:09:28] It's not like, you know, one minute after stops falling.
[1:09:33] All right, sure, sure.
[1:09:34] Anyway, wait, because it's Gary said they might be a change.
[1:09:39] All right, Article 16 amendment to fines for domestic animal violations
[1:09:44] to the motion.
[1:09:47] Oh, I'll make a motion.
[1:09:49] All second.
[1:09:50] Thank you.
[1:09:52] Comments, Gary.
[1:09:54] I mean, I think that this right here is just, you know,
[1:09:57] there was some instances in town where there was some really bad dog bites
[1:10:04] and people got hurt.
[1:10:06] I think this cleans up the regulations.
[1:10:07] And loose cows.
[1:10:08] Yes.
[1:10:09] loose cows.
[1:10:10] Down there.
[1:10:11] Oh yeah.
[1:10:17] It goes from a slap on the wrist to a little bit.
[1:10:20] Yeah, a little more.
[1:10:22] Yeah.
[1:10:23] Right.
[1:10:24] And it's per animal.
[1:10:26] Yes.
[1:10:27] Yeah.
[1:10:28] 20 cows get out.
[1:10:29] Good luck.
[1:10:29] Wouldn't be the first time I'm driving home.
[1:10:31] And I have to stop and try to get a cow off the side of the road.
[1:10:40] yeah it doesn't differentiate no just any animal boy it was a
[1:10:46] conversation there was a lengthy conversation about this Monday night
[1:10:49] as well like they didn't find for the wild turkey yeah we did I mean there was
[1:10:54] there was a police office of it yes I don't know what they heard or luckily she used
[1:10:58] she's the person's okay but the vehicle was totally yeah and it was a great
[1:11:02] vehicle we're getting the deer saying something yeah
[1:11:06] Oh yeah, yeah, it was raised in a small fun.
[1:11:10] We had a stay-a-gill loose and hit by a car and now it was straight.
[1:11:13] Oh yeah, well, we had to be shocked.
[1:11:18] Are we voting on this one?
[1:11:20] We are ready to vote on this.
[1:11:24] All in favor of Article 16, any opposed, extensions, no, 7000,
[1:11:38] fashionals up on the screen.
[1:11:41] Oh yeah, of course.
[1:12:01] I'm sorry.
[1:12:03] I'm not sorry.
[1:12:05] Can I have any thoughts on this?
[1:12:06] Don't you think
[1:12:10] I can?
[1:12:10] I got a question.
[1:12:12] No, I'm not.
[1:12:13] If they didn't pay it, you find it entirely fashion.
[1:12:17] I'm the late fees that are apply, like I say.
[1:12:21] Some we got, again, the violation is $300 for this animal,
[1:12:26] but as it take for them to pay the fine.
[1:12:31] I'm not sure if this late fees,
[1:12:32] what we usually do is, like everything else, if you have a feel or any kind of permit that
[1:12:38] you hold a sound, let's say we give you a violation. We have the ability to attach it to
[1:12:45] another permit, like I said, you can't get a beach ticket, you can't get a, you know, so
[1:12:49] holds up that. Whether there's late fees, I'm not sure there's a late fee on, what's the
[1:12:55] teeth? Yeah, that's the sound type of penalty, I suppose I'm going to get that.
[1:12:58] I'm not paying you in a timely fashion.
[1:13:01] Yeah, well the penalty is really nothing.
[1:13:03] The penalty.
[1:13:03] I don't know if there's any additional charges to that.
[1:13:05] Well that's not saying they could not pay a fine for it two years.
[1:13:09] That is very true.
[1:13:10] That's not criminal, so I don't know if it's not going to get marked anywhere.
[1:13:13] No, that's what I mean.
[1:13:14] They could all the time for years without paying that fine.
[1:13:17] It should be somehow some type of governance over if you don't have it already.
[1:13:21] There's no liability to it.
[1:13:23] Right.
[1:13:28] Yeah, I don't know.
[1:13:28] you're out if we're going to chop if there's any additional teeth in
[1:13:33] let's say that's what I'd be curious to see if there is
[1:13:36] no it's going to know what the policy is I would suspect there's one
[1:13:39] but I mean we could probably issue site you know if they go to
[1:13:44] if they argue you know hearing they'll have probably hearing his person that
[1:13:48] listens to what I'm what I'm not so not the Supreme Court
[1:13:53] Does it go to court that likes a period court to yeah, but then you're paying lawyers to go for what and you're paying
[1:14:01] Yeah, you paid to get into the period. Yeah, it's not playing with it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll just send maybe a leafy might be entertained or something like that
[1:14:20] I don't have a governance.
[1:14:22] Yeah.
[1:14:22] Oh, who?
[1:14:23] Who does this come under?
[1:14:25] It's like, come under the police.
[1:14:27] And I'm going to control, is that part of the police department?
[1:14:30] I don't know.
[1:14:30] We're bored of health.
[1:14:31] Yeah, they're all bored of health.
[1:14:32] Oh, OK.
[1:14:33] I was just curious, because that's who.
[1:14:35] Yep, it's bored of health.
[1:14:35] We'd obviously deal with it.
[1:14:36] I'm sure animal control has other things.
[1:14:41] They penalized people for it.
[1:14:44] Anyway, any thoughts on this?
[1:14:46] No.
[1:14:46] We voted.
[1:14:47] Yeah.
[1:14:47] All right, Article 17,
[1:14:53] amendment to general bylaws chapter 87, soil conservation board.
[1:14:58] Motion to approve, as written.
[1:15:00] Do you have a second?
[1:15:01] I will second.
[1:15:02] I will.
[1:15:04] Seconds.
[1:15:04] Gary?
[1:15:05] That's.
[1:15:06] I think it just, if now, we can bind the, uh,
[1:15:10] brings two boards together.
[1:15:13] Questions?
[1:15:15] Ready to vote?
[1:15:16] All in favor of Article 17.
[1:15:19] Aye.
[1:15:20] Any opposed?
[1:15:21] Or extension, seven, zero, zero.
[1:15:37] It makes sense to do that.
[1:15:41] It's not, I think, the end of the week, or there's so much work that they need to
[1:15:44] What's the last soil conservation board meeting?
[1:15:52] I've never set one in my time as this point deep on the finance committee.
[1:15:59] So on if there's two woods to get paid extra.
[1:16:05] I don't know.
[1:16:07] And there is one act of I go in a boat on because it behind me.
[1:16:11] But I'll send this out already the updated one there would you meet this in the time that I've been here
[1:16:18] They've been to meetings because we didn't have a person and somebody asked me to
[1:16:21] Sigan on up. It was a long time ago. I had to be a while ago. Yeah, yeah, I'll sit
[1:16:26] But I'm not sure why there hasn't been any meeting was that there's at least one act of
[1:16:32] Oh, pit and down.
[1:16:35] Wow.
[1:16:36] The board of health decided it was more easily done that way.
[1:16:41] Which sounds fantastic.
[1:16:42] So I didn't count the ones we still have to vote on.
[1:16:46] I can go through a lot of money.
[1:16:47] Five.
[1:16:48] So articles.
[1:16:52] Just tell me.
[1:16:54] A article five.
[1:16:57] A article eight.
[1:16:59] Hang on a second.
[1:17:00] A article nine.
[1:17:02] Nine.
[1:17:02] Nine.
[1:17:09] 14. 14.
[1:17:15] 15. 15. Okay, much better.
[1:17:27] Did you want to look at the rationale for the articles we did not vote on?
[1:17:35] I'm just waiting until we vote on them.
[1:17:37] Okay, let's find out.
[1:17:38] Unless you don't want to look at them.
[1:17:40] How many do we see them?
[1:17:41] Five.
[1:17:42] Five.
[1:17:47] If you want to, I can.
[1:17:48] No, no, that's good.
[1:17:50] Everybody's in the middle.
[1:17:50] Next week you have capital.
[1:17:51] The meeting is in a change.
[1:17:54] Right.
[1:17:55] Yeah, right.
[1:17:56] And I'll give the additional information that the committee requested and all
[1:17:59] Sunday down to you.
[1:18:03] Back to the agenda.
[1:18:08] Well, we don't have a talent in our sliders' update.
[1:18:10] Just really not.
[1:18:12] We'll just update between last week and this week I would say.
[1:18:16] We'll talk about the budget transparency portal.
[1:18:19] We're working on going for the GFAA award to do the budget in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the portal, the other piece of that program.
[1:18:28] And, um, when we work on that now, I think that we've got, we've got a lot of positive feedback on that.
[1:18:35] People that have already gone in and looked, it's nice that you can put your tax bill in or your
[1:18:38] tax bill amount in and get that download, the allocation budget advisory group was
[1:18:45] working on this RFP went back to the school committee to look at that and make and everyone
[1:18:50] on the committee to make changes and hopefully we can maybe move that forward a little bit.
[1:18:56] So there were changes that were made?
[1:18:58] We sent the back to the different groups.
[1:19:02] So we sent the back to the schools to have them visit with a subcommittee and make any recommendations
[1:19:07] that they want to see changes on the RFP.
[1:19:09] And then we're going to be setting another meeting up.
[1:19:11] We haven't been scheduled, which is nice now.
[1:19:13] We haven't been scheduled on the calendar.
[1:19:16] And then, you know, finally, like I mentioned, CIPC will meet.
[1:19:19] We have the balance of certified and next week they'll make the recommendations.
[1:19:26] So you'll have the article.
[1:19:26] I'll type it up after we meet on Wednesday I'll send the article to the committee so they have it.
[1:19:34] So one update just because of the select board meeting that was on Monday night,
[1:19:38] they had a joint meeting with the Planning Board and talked about the,
[1:19:42] is it ballot question seven?
[1:19:44] I have that number right.
[1:19:46] So Gary is trying to arrange having the, I don't know,
[1:19:50] assistant planning director of planning.
[1:19:52] We might have, probably would have,
[1:19:55] Lorraine Miller here.
[1:19:56] And Lloyd Miller, who's the chair of that?
[1:19:58] Yeah, next means to talk about it.
[1:20:00] Correct.
[1:20:00] So I thought it would be after listening to what the planning
[1:20:02] board said, and you can all watch their meeting, obviously.
[1:20:05] But after listening to what the planning board said,
[1:20:07] I thought it was important for us to hear it too
[1:20:10] and be able to ask questions.
[1:20:11] That's why I asked Gary to get it on our agenda, especially
[1:20:15] before the November election.
[1:20:18] So people understood what that ballot question is
[1:20:22] and most important, what it means to the town of Dartmouth
[1:20:26] if that passes and they put through five thousand square foot
[1:20:30] lots everywhere that has town utilities.
[1:20:36] So anyway, next week.
[1:20:40] Liaison reports.
[1:20:43] I'm talking to all we heard from MIS and EMA.
[1:20:47] in health. That's right because that was in addition. That's where Chris talked about the
[1:20:56] need to do a third year of testing of the Slocum River. They're trying to set for PF or you
[1:21:01] remember the conversation a town had with the EP regarding Title V and as usual Chris is on top of
[1:21:11] that and they're trying to look at he said that one of the unique things about the Slocum River is
[1:21:16] but two biggest factors for pollution in that river.
[1:21:20] A nitrogen from
[1:21:24] stormwater, nitrogen, and stormwater, I'm sorry.
[1:21:28] So they want to get some good data.
[1:21:30] It has been tested for a long time
[1:21:31] and they want to compare it to that.
[1:21:32] I think it was there early 2000s
[1:21:34] that they did last testing.
[1:21:37] So why he asked for additional money,
[1:21:39] which I can't, how much money was it, do you remember?
[1:21:41] 18,000, Father.
[1:21:42] I can't pull up my spreadsheet, 18,000, 500, thank you.
[1:21:45] That's right, because the first two years with 20,000,
[1:21:47] they took a phone up.
[1:21:49] And also, the Connected Protect,
[1:21:51] we're trying to make that a little bit more robust
[1:21:53] program.
[1:21:54] We had that with buses-based coalition,
[1:21:56] so also we're trying to get that.
[1:21:59] So there's almost like another reviving's funds set up.
[1:22:01] We used the state funding, which allows for 2% interest loans.
[1:22:06] So we wanted to do some in-house where they,
[1:22:09] you know, tie-and-drop, accepted systems renovation.
[1:22:12] I mean, replacement of several seconds, which helps protect, again, the river and reduces
[1:22:19] nitrogen levels.
[1:22:19] So they want to do a program in-house and that want to get awarded to the most
[1:22:23] neediest systems.
[1:22:25] Now, very interesting.
[1:22:26] I think to hear Chris Speakon.
[1:22:27] Excellent idea.
[1:22:30] It's a cent of the homes that have septic systems on the soccer room that have access to time sewage.
[1:22:37] So he was starting about the way to incentivize people to connect.
[1:22:44] And it's not income based right now, but at some point in the future could be.
[1:22:49] He gave the example that Bonstville has an excellent, very robust program where they do this for people.
[1:22:55] And it does make it, I remember, I gave the exam, I was benefit beneficiary of this program.
[1:23:03] I first moved to town because I was told that I had to connect.
[1:23:07] And I wouldn't have been able to borrow the money at the time to do that.
[1:23:10] So I was able to get a better minute and eventually paid off.
[1:23:13] It makes it easier for people to do what they need to do.
[1:23:16] It's good for the town, it's good for everything.
[1:23:21] But the point was made, Jeanine, like you said at one of the recent meetings, is that make sure
[1:23:26] that they have skin in the game.
[1:23:28] It's not a grant necessarily, although the Connect and Protect program was because there
[1:23:34] was money available from Buzzets Bay coalition to assist with that.
[1:23:38] That's not the assistant that we're talking about because we don't have it, but if it was
[1:23:42] funding that came in, it could be set up into a fund to provide that assistance to other families.
[1:23:47] And keep in mind, when we do those programs, we place a lean on the property, so town
[1:23:53] is always protected, and it's sort of a separate measurement program, the town will never
[1:23:57] not recoup that money, because it's placed on the property.
[1:24:01] Chris is very interesting, not that it's necessarily something we need to take up time to
[1:24:06] hear, but he is very knowledgeable.
[1:24:09] Oh, he did it, I mean, if you listen to the, if you listen to the CAPC meeting, he's
[1:24:17] So ENA has some upgrades on the equipment that hasn't been done for at least 10 years, maybe
[1:24:24] 15.
[1:24:27] And that was management information, sorry.
[1:24:31] And then the ENA is looking for a truck.
[1:24:33] A lot of questions about why do we need a truck.
[1:24:36] One of the things that came up that I had questions about, and I don't, again, it's not
[1:24:40] strictly in our review, but that was the one.
[1:24:44] in a long time once in a decade,
[1:24:47] event of Liz at last year, and I had a question about
[1:24:51] what is the response in terms of all the time systems
[1:24:56] because the director talked about how they were,
[1:24:59] you know, just a couple of guys running trucks here
[1:25:02] and they had a deliver oxygen, you know,
[1:25:05] other things that people needed,
[1:25:06] but I wanted to have much coordination.
[1:25:08] It was, I mean, everybody was really busy that day, obviously.
[1:25:11] But I wonder when our town responses in particular because the five districts are involved in that and we have no involvement in the five districts, we don't know what they have for inventory or equipment or any of that stuff.
[1:25:24] So probably some work that needs to be done at some point in the future.
[1:25:28] But they did request a new truck as the trucks that they vehicles that they have are older.
[1:25:33] I guess they had to hand shovel their equipment during that, during that episode, out of the
[1:25:39] council and the ocean storage.
[1:25:42] So an answer to guys that would have a little difficulty in shoveling, so we talked about
[1:25:47] that need to, people like to get something that had a plow on it, so they didn't have to
[1:25:53] do that again.
[1:25:54] And I also looked at that.
[1:25:55] That's always a challenging area in the matter of what, the rubbed the weather is like a different
[1:25:59] like Swamp Row, there's no dangerous one, there's a lot of snow.
[1:26:04] We have good people on the Capital Improvement Committee, it's worthwhile watching,
[1:26:09] I think you would learn things.
[1:26:10] Yeah, do you remember that?
[1:26:11] I think they really are different perspectives, huh?
[1:26:15] And, you know, a couple of Bruce and Chris have just had so much experience.
[1:26:20] No crisis IT experience, it's really awful.
[1:26:24] Also, good men, that guy has a good memory for what's been done in the past, so I'm like
[1:26:27] me.
[1:26:33] Anybody else?
[1:26:34] Gary, no, we don't have any minutes yet.
[1:26:36] I think we're going to be getting a couple meetings.
[1:26:41] Next week.
[1:26:43] Any item not known?
[1:26:44] So we are talked about what's going to be on the next agenda, right?
[1:26:47] Obviously finishing the warrant rationals and the voting.
[1:26:52] Planning board members of some sort,
[1:26:56] Speaking to us about, whatever, the 5,000 square foot lots, anything else, how do they normal?
[1:27:05] Um, it's an, I know that, uh, so this is all going to be turned in, obviously, to the clerk before.
[1:27:10] Well, I think we're pretty good, good shape.
[1:27:12] Send this off to the clerk, probably next week.
[1:27:15] We should be able to have it done, um,
[1:27:20] shouldn't speak the carry.
[1:27:22] Um, before the, uh, select board meeting on Monday night.
[1:27:25] Yeah, I think we could, because that's not sweet.
[1:27:27] That's not the clerk's deadline.
[1:27:28] Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
[1:27:30] See that.
[1:27:30] It's just so that it's like board can see it and see our board.
[1:27:33] Yeah, I just sent it back out to everybody.
[1:27:36] Yeah, I'll go.
[1:27:36] I'll go.
[1:27:36] I'll go.
[1:27:36] I'll go.
[1:27:38] So in terms of open meeting was we can look at that and get it back to you.
[1:27:45] Correct.
[1:27:45] We can't do a reply all.
[1:27:47] Right, don't reply all.
[1:27:48] Yeah, you mean you have comments now?
[1:27:51] Yeah, sure, of course.
[1:27:52] Let's see.
[1:27:53] Yeah, we have.
[1:27:53] All the guys that I've got be here, but I will send comments to you.
[1:27:56] Yeah, sure.
[1:27:57] But he's input, obviously, because you voted on it.
[1:28:04] So motion to adjourn.
[1:28:07] No second.
[1:28:08] I will second then.
[1:28:09] Oh, I'm favor.
[1:28:10] Hi.