1 00:00:23,460 --> 00:00:25,651 Can you hold that one up? Thank you. 2 00:00:35,220 --> 00:00:36,810 Good. Y'all good? 3 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:37,830 Sorry. 4 00:00:38,610 --> 00:00:38,970 Good. 5 00:00:43,770 --> 00:00:49,051 Good evening, and welcome to the September 21st, 2026 Davidson County Board of 6 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:52,350 Education Retreat. I will call this meeting to order. 7 00:00:52,410 --> 00:00:55,590 If we could please stand for the pledge of allegiance followed by a moment of 8 00:00:55,651 --> 00:00:56,160 silence. 9 00:00:59,731 --> 00:01:05,670 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 10 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,670 for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty 11 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:12,961 and justice for all. 12 00:01:26,130 --> 00:01:27,600 Amen. May be seated. 13 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:34,860 Superintendent update, Dr. Slate. 14 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,301 Just some key dates to remember, Mr. Chairman. 15 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,271 Our next board meeting is October 5th here at David Townsend at 6:30 PM. 16 00:01:45,810 --> 00:01:50,040 Inside your board packet, of course, is the Board of Education meeting schedule. 17 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,570 Please note that the retreat in February is also shifted to Davidson Townsend 18 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:55,801 Elementary School as well. 19 00:01:57,391 --> 00:02:02,040 Thank you very much for that. Some operations, Mr. Johnson. 20 00:02:02,101 --> 00:02:02,250 Good 21 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:18,270 afternoon, 22 00:02:18,450 --> 00:02:23,010 board. From operations this evening, I'd like to introduce Nicole Ray and her team 23 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:28,590 from Performance Services to describe a method of construction called 24 00:02:28,650 --> 00:02:32,880 design build, and I would invite her to the podium at this time with her team. 25 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:50,550 Thank 26 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:50,641 you. 27 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:54,270 Good evening, Dr. Slate, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. 28 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,450 If it pleases the board, I wanted to present to you all tonight to expand on the 29 00:03:00,510 --> 00:03:05,250 facility needs survey material that was presented to you back in August. 30 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,510 As Mr. Johnson had mentioned, my name is Nicole Ray. 31 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:14,101 I'm a business development manager with Performance Services, and with me I have 32 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,660 Dr. Rodney Shotwell, who I believe you all know, and also Bob Weede. 33 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:29,041 So in August, our team had presented some high-level data and results of the 34 00:03:29,101 --> 00:03:32,880 five-year facility needs survey that's required by NC DPI. 35 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,610 So for this slide, just a reminder that the average age of all Davidson County 36 00:03:38,730 --> 00:03:41,910 school buildings is approximately 55 years. 37 00:03:45,930 --> 00:03:50,250 And this is also a review slide that we had included in the August presentation, 38 00:03:50,851 --> 00:03:54,421 just highlighting the tremendous amount of need in Davidson County schools. 39 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:59,520 Overall, the district has approximately $350 million in capital needs and deferred 40 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:03,630 maintenance, which has increased approximately $250 million 41 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,150 since 2020. 42 00:04:07,410 --> 00:04:12,090 While my company, Performance Services, presented the facility needs at our last 43 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:16,740 meeting, we really didn't get a chance to get into who we are as an organization 44 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,000 and why we provided this service to Davidson County schools at no cost. 45 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:27,841 So Performance Services is a design build company. 46 00:04:28,290 --> 00:04:32,070 We have offices in Charlotte and Raleigh, as well as 19 other states. 47 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:37,560 This slide is representative of a few of our North Carolina team members, but I 48 00:04:37,620 --> 00:04:42,630 want to highlight the fact that Dr. Shotwell, Lisa Jackson, and Dr. 49 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,350 Beasley are all part of our team. You guys are familiar with Dr. 50 00:04:46,410 --> 00:04:50,430 Shotwell, but Lisa Jackson is a former superintendent of Pamlico County Schools, 51 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:54,600 and Dr. Chad Beasley is the former superintendent of Allegheny County Schools. 52 00:04:55,020 --> 00:04:59,580 And I feel incredibly blessed to have such phenomenal North Carolina educators on 53 00:04:59,610 --> 00:05:00,120 our team. 54 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,031 So our company is a little unique in that almost 90% of what we build across our 19 55 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,370 states is K12. Our strategy and kind of our approach 56 00:05:14,460 --> 00:05:20,400 to our business is that we want to be our district partners' most trusted 57 00:05:20,460 --> 00:05:24,870 advisor. And the way that we support our school districts doesn't stop or start 58 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:30,300 with just one project. So similar to how we've provided the facility needs survey 59 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:35,250 for Davidson County Schools at no cost, we were able to help about a dozen North 60 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:39,390 Carolina districts with their facility needs survey this year at no cost. 61 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:44,850 We also have in-house grant writers and funding specialists who help our districts 62 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,070 apply for grants like the Needs-Based Grant. 63 00:05:47,790 --> 00:05:51,360 We regularly offer no-cost roofing and envelope assessments. 64 00:05:52,170 --> 00:05:55,770 And then last but not least, we're proud supporters of several North Carolina 65 00:05:55,830 --> 00:06:00,600 education associations like the School Board Association with Ms. 66 00:06:00,690 --> 00:06:03,781 Ramona and Whitney and Leanne and that group. 67 00:06:06,091 --> 00:06:06,750 Also 68 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:12,990 with North Carolina Public School Maintenance Association, so I'll be there at 69 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:17,701 Atlantic Beach later this week supporting those guys with the operations team. 70 00:06:18,810 --> 00:06:23,310 And then also the Superintendents Association with Jack Hoke, and then last but 71 00:06:23,370 --> 00:06:26,040 certainly not least, NCAT with Brock Womble. 72 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:31,770 So we feel really blessed to be able to come alongside our North Carolina education 73 00:06:31,831 --> 00:06:36,030 and partner in that way. So I'm going to turn it over to Bob Weede, who will tell 74 00:06:36,091 --> 00:06:40,620 you a little bit more about the Performance Services company profile and kind of 75 00:06:40,651 --> 00:06:41,550 how we got started. 76 00:06:43,591 --> 00:06:46,081 Thank you, Nicole. Again, my name's Bob Weede. 77 00:06:46,170 --> 00:06:49,920 I'm the director of design build for Performance Services. 78 00:06:50,311 --> 00:06:54,690 So I thought I'd spend a few minutes on who we are so you know who's talking with 79 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,440 you. So 80 00:06:56,910 --> 00:07:00,750 we've been around for going on 28 years. I've been with us for 25. 81 00:07:01,230 --> 00:07:05,460 And we are a design builder, which means we have our own group, our own team of 82 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,050 architects, engineers, project managers, control specialists, all one team, one 83 00:07:10,170 --> 00:07:13,170 point of contact. You don't get into a lot of the finger-pointing. 84 00:07:13,201 --> 00:07:17,640 We'll get into that in a minute. But we started out really focused on 85 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:24,061 HVAC and controls. That was our bread and butter, and we've done thousands 86 00:07:24,151 --> 00:07:29,730 of HVAC, mechanical, electrical, plumbing projects to date, over 2,000 buildings. 87 00:07:30,540 --> 00:07:36,210 We currently monitor over 1,500 buildings through our performance assurance group. 88 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:37,710 And so 89 00:07:39,061 --> 00:07:43,951 we benefit from an extensive knowledge of school buildings. 90 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:48,240 The vast majority of our work, 87% of it, is in the K12 market. 91 00:07:48,331 --> 00:07:53,820 So we know schools, and there's very rarely a situation that comes up that we don't 92 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,530 have experience on doing that. So we started out in that arena, and then really 93 00:07:58,591 --> 00:08:02,880 what ended up happening is our clients pulled us in to be more of a complete design 94 00:08:02,910 --> 00:08:05,940 builder. "We love what you're doing with our mechanical systems. 95 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:09,720 Can you put this addition on? We love your process, your single point of contact." 96 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:13,380 So that's how we grew into what we are, which is a full design build company. 97 00:08:15,061 --> 00:08:20,970 So we've mentioned design build. In construction, there's really three procurement 98 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:25,530 methods. You have design build, which is one point of contact, single contract for 99 00:08:25,561 --> 00:08:30,780 both design and construction services. One person responsible for all that. 100 00:08:31,170 --> 00:08:35,311 Now, under the way we work it, we go out and competitively bid all the cost 101 00:08:35,370 --> 00:08:40,320 categories involved so that you're getting the benefits of the other two in terms 102 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:42,780 of pricing, cost competitive bidding, 103 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,450 but a single point of contact so there are no change orders with our projects, and 104 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,530 we'll get into that in a minute. The other two methods around here are construction 105 00:08:52,590 --> 00:08:56,401 management at risk, and that's where you have a construction manager and an 106 00:08:56,460 --> 00:09:01,800 architect. The challenge is they both have their own individual contracts. 107 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,510 Now they will partner together to some extent, but ultimately they are 108 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,200 fiduciarily responsible to each company. 109 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:13,290 And so you can get into this finger-pointing. 110 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:17,070 "It's not my fault, it's their fault," and a lot of times the customer falls in the 111 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:21,240 middle of that with either delays or change orders. 112 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:25,290 The third method is design bid build, and I will tell you, I think 113 00:09:26,628 --> 00:09:28,188 Each of those have their strengths. 114 00:09:29,118 --> 00:09:31,099 If you're doing renovation work, 115 00:09:32,358 --> 00:09:37,038 if you're doing quick turn work, you want cost-effective solutions on something 116 00:09:37,068 --> 00:09:42,018 more than just a driveway or a parking lot or something, design-build really stands 117 00:09:42,108 --> 00:09:47,088 out well. If you have a great design and you're building a new 118 00:09:47,808 --> 00:09:52,158 school out in a field, and you work with a construction manager, that should go 119 00:09:52,219 --> 00:09:55,938 pretty well. If you're just doing a simple roof job or a parking lot, then 120 00:09:55,998 --> 00:09:59,508 design-bid-build might be your best solution. 121 00:10:00,288 --> 00:10:05,148 So each one has their best bet. Big thing about design-build, and I'll get into 122 00:10:05,208 --> 00:10:06,918 that, is single point of responsibility. 123 00:10:08,148 --> 00:10:11,238 So they've done numerous studies out there. 124 00:10:11,328 --> 00:10:14,418 Latest one was Department of Commerce and University of Colorado. 125 00:10:14,898 --> 00:10:20,208 They basically came back and said design-build's about 3% to 4% less, significantly 126 00:10:20,238 --> 00:10:25,038 less change orders. But the big thing, it's anywhere from 20% to 33% faster than 127 00:10:25,068 --> 00:10:29,508 the other methods. Now, I'm going to tell you, in these days, in these times, if 128 00:10:29,928 --> 00:10:33,228 we're shaving six months off a project, I'm going to save you money. 129 00:10:33,918 --> 00:10:39,108 And the reason is because we're all working together towards the same 130 00:10:39,918 --> 00:10:42,888 solution. And when we're going through, and let's say we're looking at your 131 00:10:43,008 --> 00:10:47,599 buildings like we did on your study, and we're going through that, I'm not just 132 00:10:47,658 --> 00:10:51,438 having my designer there. I'm having my project manager who's looking at it from a 133 00:10:51,469 --> 00:10:56,958 constructibility standpoint. So we're identifying those issues during design 134 00:10:57,048 --> 00:11:01,338 before they get out into the field, because that delays things and it costs you a 135 00:11:01,368 --> 00:11:05,178 lot more money. So we identify those, and then the other thing is, because we've 136 00:11:05,208 --> 00:11:11,088 done a couple thousand buildings, we do a postmortem on each one of those. 137 00:11:11,658 --> 00:11:15,378 What went right? What went wrong? What caught us? And they get identified. 138 00:11:15,828 --> 00:11:21,798 And so my engineer alone, just on HVAC, has an eight-page checklist that he 139 00:11:21,828 --> 00:11:25,248 goes through when we're going through a building on a design to make sure we aren't 140 00:11:25,278 --> 00:11:26,508 going to get caught on any of those. 141 00:11:26,868 --> 00:11:29,748 Because you put it in the drawings, that's a $20 issue. 142 00:11:30,168 --> 00:11:33,768 If I have to do a change order, that's a $200 or a $2,000 issue. 143 00:11:34,338 --> 00:11:38,118 So we address those, and it's one of the reasons we can do no change orders. 144 00:11:38,688 --> 00:11:42,558 So I mentioned that within design and construction management, you get caught in 145 00:11:42,588 --> 00:11:47,088 the middle a lot of times, because the designer's going to go, "That should've been 146 00:11:47,088 --> 00:11:49,788 on the construction guy." The guy's going to say, "That wasn't clear on your 147 00:11:50,388 --> 00:11:54,828 design." And the owner's left going, "I got to get this taken care of." And so it 148 00:11:54,888 --> 00:11:57,228 falls into your contingency or something along those lines. 149 00:11:57,528 --> 00:12:00,349 Did you have an interesting story on that one, Dr. Shotwell? 150 00:12:01,099 --> 00:12:01,338 I do. 151 00:12:02,538 --> 00:12:08,418 In one of my interim positions, I was able to put out for bid a new 152 00:12:08,478 --> 00:12:13,608 school project, and while we were working through it, one of the things, it was in 153 00:12:13,908 --> 00:12:15,618 Halifax County, I was in Weldon City. 154 00:12:16,248 --> 00:12:21,258 And what I noticed, that there were no true shelter in place that 155 00:12:21,618 --> 00:12:23,058 provided showers, 156 00:12:24,618 --> 00:12:28,158 food prep. They were using the community college, but the community college doesn't 157 00:12:28,188 --> 00:12:31,818 have a commercial kitchen. And so one of the things I asked them, because we had a 158 00:12:31,878 --> 00:12:36,798 small generator, I was like, "How much would a big generator cost?" Well, that was 159 00:12:36,828 --> 00:12:42,378 cost prohibitive. So the compromise was, we're going to put a switch on there, 160 00:12:42,798 --> 00:12:46,068 and then that way Emergency Management can have one of those tractor trailer 161 00:12:47,719 --> 00:12:51,798 generators come in for emergencies. And I said, "Great. 162 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:53,748 Let's do it." 163 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:56,659 The architect, the engineers, 164 00:12:58,219 --> 00:13:00,798 the construction manager, it took five weeks 165 00:13:02,118 --> 00:13:05,988 for me to get that answer, because they had to go from point to point to point to 166 00:13:06,078 --> 00:13:11,178 point. And the thing I have noticed working with this company, too, is that 167 00:13:12,078 --> 00:13:16,758 sometimes it just takes days, or maybe a week at most to get it changed, because 168 00:13:16,788 --> 00:13:18,558 they're all working towards the same thing. 169 00:13:19,219 --> 00:13:24,858 Because we were holding back money for change orders, and I know that's where, 170 00:13:24,918 --> 00:13:28,159 under traditional building, that's where they make their money, too. 171 00:13:28,878 --> 00:13:34,159 But for us, it was just ridiculous that I had to wait that long, because it ended 172 00:13:34,219 --> 00:13:40,008 up costing $332,000 to do that. But now Halifax County, if 173 00:13:40,068 --> 00:13:45,348 a big weather storm comes through, they can go there, and that place, Weldon High 174 00:13:45,439 --> 00:13:51,318 School, can be used completely without any power coming from the grid 175 00:13:51,409 --> 00:13:56,028 or anybody like that. And to me, I just think that's a big thing. 176 00:13:56,148 --> 00:14:00,318 Because the other thing that made me upset about that project was the bids came in 177 00:14:00,409 --> 00:14:02,508 first, $4.5 million over budget. 178 00:14:03,948 --> 00:14:05,388 That delayed them getting into school. 179 00:14:06,348 --> 00:14:08,568 Matter of fact, they just opened the school this past week. 180 00:14:09,258 --> 00:14:12,558 The kids had to stay out of school for a week so that the teachers could move in. 181 00:14:13,128 --> 00:14:13,278 Wow. 182 00:14:13,668 --> 00:14:15,498 It was supposed to have been ready during the summer. 183 00:14:16,068 --> 00:14:18,589 Here's the thing that they did. That was in June. 184 00:14:18,948 --> 00:14:23,178 September, all of a sudden, we come in under budget $138,000. 185 00:14:24,409 --> 00:14:27,409 But what they did is they went out and they actively recruited people to come in 186 00:14:27,528 --> 00:14:31,008 and do that second bid, and they did some value engineering, which I didn't like, 187 00:14:31,098 --> 00:14:33,018 but it didn't affect the overall aesthetics. 188 00:14:33,618 --> 00:14:35,689 My point is, that's what we do 189 00:14:37,098 --> 00:14:39,439 on the front end so that you don't get that delay. 190 00:14:39,589 --> 00:14:41,508 Because I kept trying to explain to my board, 191 00:14:43,788 --> 00:14:46,758 once we get the thing open, things will start rocking and rolling. 192 00:14:46,969 --> 00:14:51,078 But that delay cost them being able to move in in July as opposed to September. 193 00:14:52,878 --> 00:14:57,469 Thank you, Dr. Shotwell. And just to kind of add on to Dr. 194 00:14:57,528 --> 00:15:03,198 Shotwell's story, his process that took him five weeks in Weldon City, using 195 00:15:03,229 --> 00:15:05,719 design-build, would've been resolved in eight hours. 196 00:15:05,778 --> 00:15:07,128 It would've been resolved in a day. 197 00:15:07,698 --> 00:15:08,988 So I think we've kind of 198 00:15:10,848 --> 00:15:15,498 hammered home the fact that design-build is one team with sole accountability, but 199 00:15:15,589 --> 00:15:19,458 just to provide another visual aid, our architect, our engineer, our account 200 00:15:19,518 --> 00:15:23,448 manager, our construction, they're all Performance Services employees. 201 00:15:23,898 --> 00:15:26,689 We all wear the same shirt, have the same email extension. 202 00:15:26,748 --> 00:15:30,258 We are all one company, which does make the communication a lot better. 203 00:15:30,858 --> 00:15:31,848 Zero finger-pointing. 204 00:15:33,558 --> 00:15:37,939 Dr. Shotwell and Bob also both mentioned our no change order guarantee. 205 00:15:38,358 --> 00:15:44,208 So if there's a problem, we pay for it if it's a design error, but 206 00:15:44,268 --> 00:15:48,828 it's sole accountability, taking the risk off the district and off the board. 207 00:15:51,467 --> 00:15:55,667 Your neighbor over here in Yadkin County Schools just recently tried out 208 00:15:55,729 --> 00:16:01,488 design-build. So you all, I'm sure, have contacts over there, so feel free to reach 209 00:16:01,578 --> 00:16:02,928 out to the folks you know over there. 210 00:16:03,018 --> 00:16:08,148 But they have just been incredibly pleased with the design-build delivery method. 211 00:16:08,508 --> 00:16:11,208 They had a million dollars to spend. They wanted two roofs. 212 00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:14,268 We ended up delivering four roofs instead of two. 213 00:16:14,928 --> 00:16:18,979 We built credibility with them and also with their county commissioners by coming 214 00:16:19,038 --> 00:16:23,058 in under budget, so the superintendent was able to take his plan to the county 215 00:16:23,089 --> 00:16:27,738 commissioner and show that he was getting double, basically, the scope, and we 216 00:16:27,858 --> 00:16:30,318 still delivered $40,000 under budget. 217 00:16:30,979 --> 00:16:34,308 And they were very complimentary of our process and the speed, as Bob had 218 00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:38,418 mentioned, that we avoided delays that they had traditionally seen in previous 219 00:16:38,448 --> 00:16:40,308 projects with different procurement methods. 220 00:16:41,868 --> 00:16:46,308 So next steps, obviously, we did the five-year facility needs study for you all 221 00:16:46,398 --> 00:16:49,608 already. It was a very high level with Mr. Johnson. 222 00:16:49,969 --> 00:16:54,229 We would like the opportunity to maybe do something a little bit deeper or more 223 00:16:54,318 --> 00:17:00,078 concentrated or concerted. Again, we regularly provide facility studies at no 224 00:17:00,138 --> 00:17:03,798 cost, but I think we are all in agreement in this room that there is a tremendous 225 00:17:03,888 --> 00:17:09,108 amount of need here. And we would be more than happy to kind of help you all tackle 226 00:17:09,168 --> 00:17:10,758 some of those more pressing 227 00:17:12,048 --> 00:17:17,719 projects. And maybe just kind of start the relationship slow so that everyone can 228 00:17:17,778 --> 00:17:21,258 kind of get to know Performance Services, get to know our team, and at the end, 229 00:17:21,318 --> 00:17:24,048 what we hope for is a very successful partnership. 230 00:17:25,219 --> 00:17:28,399 So that's all we've prepared for today. I know we're just a little bit over time. 231 00:17:28,638 --> 00:17:32,538 My apologies for that. But any questions from the board? Dr. 232 00:17:32,628 --> 00:17:33,018 Slater, 233 00:17:34,399 --> 00:17:35,058 Davidson County. 234 00:17:36,288 --> 00:17:40,998 What ratio have you guys seen as far as success with the needs-based grant with the 235 00:17:41,058 --> 00:17:43,548 state, applying for that and having success there? 236 00:17:44,058 --> 00:17:49,968 Yeah, so we just started applying for needs-based grant last year with 237 00:17:50,028 --> 00:17:55,339 districts. And so, as you're aware, there's a little bit of a science to that, 238 00:17:55,608 --> 00:17:55,788 right? 239 00:17:55,818 --> 00:17:56,748 Very much so. 240 00:17:58,248 --> 00:18:02,899 And so, I'm trying to choose my words carefully here. 241 00:18:03,409 --> 00:18:04,098 I feel like 242 00:18:05,718 --> 00:18:10,878 Dr. Slate has mentioned in the past that Davidson County may not be as competitive 243 00:18:13,368 --> 00:18:17,208 as maybe some other, more rural districts. 244 00:18:18,228 --> 00:18:21,468 That's not to say, let me switch and put my DPI hat on. 245 00:18:21,828 --> 00:18:25,968 That's not to say that you shouldn't apply or that you can't apply, but there is a 246 00:18:26,028 --> 00:18:31,399 rubric, a scoring rubric, and if you all are interested in entertaining what the 247 00:18:31,458 --> 00:18:35,628 math on that looks like, we'd be happy to provide that in a subsequent bulletin. 248 00:18:41,973 --> 00:18:42,813 Any other questions? 249 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:45,363 That's what I was going to ask. 250 00:18:47,253 --> 00:18:49,473 And you said you guys have grant writers on staff? 251 00:18:49,803 --> 00:18:50,763 Yes, sir. So 252 00:18:52,443 --> 00:18:53,403 our grant writer 253 00:18:54,813 --> 00:18:59,793 hails from a previous life. She had an 83% success rate, so she was able to help 254 00:18:59,823 --> 00:19:03,784 Rockingham County Schools apply for the Renew America School grant. 255 00:19:04,653 --> 00:19:07,714 So she successfully helped them apply for that. 256 00:19:07,774 --> 00:19:10,833 I believe she also helped them apply for the COPS grant and was awarded. 257 00:19:11,583 --> 00:19:16,203 So for me personally, I've worked with her also in a previous life, and she and I 258 00:19:16,293 --> 00:19:21,573 applied for the COPS grant, the School Violence Prevention Program grant, I'm 259 00:19:21,633 --> 00:19:22,774 assuming you all are familiar with that, 260 00:19:24,183 --> 00:19:27,333 for a district in South Carolina, and we were successfully awarded as well. 261 00:19:27,784 --> 00:19:33,723 So she's learning North Carolina, and learning DPI, but we will be applying 262 00:19:33,753 --> 00:19:34,743 for a few more this year. 263 00:19:36,063 --> 00:19:41,373 The grant successes are relatively moderate. 264 00:19:41,433 --> 00:19:44,464 Oh, I'm outside of my swim lane on that question. 265 00:19:44,524 --> 00:19:49,503 She has an Excel list that she keeps running that I would be happy to share with 266 00:19:49,563 --> 00:19:53,913 the success ratio and her total award. It's in the multi millions. 267 00:19:54,363 --> 00:20:00,123 Because she's a national resource for us, so she 268 00:20:00,153 --> 00:20:05,043 doesn't just support us here in North Carolina, she supports all of our states. 269 00:20:05,493 --> 00:20:09,784 So in Colorado, they have a BESS grant, and she has helped that team. 270 00:20:10,143 --> 00:20:12,573 In Arkansas, they have a different kind of community grant. 271 00:20:12,633 --> 00:20:14,763 She's helped that team as well. So we're- 272 00:20:14,823 --> 00:20:15,333 She's national. 273 00:20:15,393 --> 00:20:16,623 Correct. Yes, sir. 274 00:20:23,223 --> 00:20:24,003 Any other questions? 275 00:20:26,313 --> 00:20:28,024 I don't think so this time. Thank you so much for y'all- 276 00:20:28,083 --> 00:20:28,083 Yeah 277 00:20:28,083 --> 00:20:29,493 ... coming and sharing with us tonight. 278 00:20:29,823 --> 00:20:30,603 No, thank you. 279 00:20:42,663 --> 00:20:43,803 The School Boards Association. 280 00:20:45,003 --> 00:20:45,784 Yeah, Ms. Ramona. 281 00:20:45,784 --> 00:20:49,743 Yeah. Ms. Ramona, the North Carolina School Boards Association. 282 00:20:55,113 --> 00:20:58,774 Well, good afternoon. What an honor to be before you today. 283 00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:03,153 With me is Amber Horton, who's assistant director of 284 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:06,483 board development. 285 00:21:08,763 --> 00:21:10,563 I had the pleasure of meeting Donna. 286 00:21:11,583 --> 00:21:17,433 Well, she first encountered me last year at a dinner where I was not trying to be 287 00:21:17,493 --> 00:21:19,653 funny, but I think I had a comedy show. 288 00:21:20,193 --> 00:21:23,943 And I promise we will be good today. 289 00:21:24,243 --> 00:21:30,214 But I wanted to say, one, congratulations on the awards that we were able 290 00:21:30,303 --> 00:21:35,313 to share with you guys. Appreciate all that you're doing for the 291 00:21:35,373 --> 00:21:38,313 children here, and I just want to 292 00:21:40,083 --> 00:21:43,983 acknowledge that what you do is you make a difference. 293 00:21:45,034 --> 00:21:49,203 Excellent, did I change that? I didn't? 294 00:21:50,403 --> 00:21:50,583 You did. 295 00:21:50,583 --> 00:21:52,774 I did? I wasn't touching it. 296 00:21:55,833 --> 00:21:58,113 And so here the comedy show continues. 297 00:21:58,623 --> 00:21:59,613 But I will say, 298 00:22:01,113 --> 00:22:06,453 we're not going to be long before you because we had a great session with you, year 299 00:22:06,483 --> 00:22:07,683 before. I believe it was last year. 300 00:22:08,013 --> 00:22:08,493 Last year. 301 00:22:09,303 --> 00:22:14,253 And so, we're going to continue with that conversation, but just a quick refresher. 302 00:22:14,913 --> 00:22:19,024 We know that excellence in the classroom begins with excellence in the boardroom. 303 00:22:19,803 --> 00:22:23,553 We say that over and over. What happens at the board table matters. 304 00:22:24,003 --> 00:22:29,223 And so what you bring, what you do, it has an effect on student achievement. 305 00:22:29,643 --> 00:22:33,903 Congratulations on the scores. They were great everywhere, and 306 00:22:35,913 --> 00:22:40,923 that's a testament to the work that boards are trying to do to make a difference in 307 00:22:40,983 --> 00:22:41,973 every child's life. 308 00:22:44,373 --> 00:22:46,024 I'm not going to show you a good show. 309 00:22:46,953 --> 00:22:52,353 That's about a town council that was behaving badly and didn't understand that 310 00:22:52,743 --> 00:22:58,593 whenever you're the best show in town, good things probably are not happening for 311 00:22:58,623 --> 00:23:02,673 your community. And that's what we want to avoid, and that's what Amber and I will 312 00:23:02,733 --> 00:23:08,013 focus on today. So, the elements of effective governance, and I 313 00:23:08,043 --> 00:23:12,123 apologize, the font changed, but don't worry, we can get through this. 314 00:23:12,513 --> 00:23:17,793 But elements of effective governance, there are three things I want to focus on 315 00:23:18,153 --> 00:23:21,813 before I turn things over to Amber. One is the individual. 316 00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:24,214 What you bring to the table matters. 317 00:23:25,024 --> 00:23:30,453 And this is kind of small to see, but hopefully you can see it. 318 00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:35,823 Even with my no-line progressive glasses, that's really tiny. 319 00:23:36,274 --> 00:23:41,943 But I will say that the focus you have as an individual board member, the mindset 320 00:23:42,003 --> 00:23:47,493 that you bring, the mindfulness, the level of commitment, 321 00:23:47,943 --> 00:23:52,443 understanding your roles and responsibilities, and doing the things that you have 322 00:23:52,503 --> 00:23:57,903 to do to be a team member, all play an important role in 323 00:23:58,593 --> 00:23:58,983 being 324 00:24:00,843 --> 00:24:02,163 a happier board member. 325 00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:09,693 The second element is the board. What you guys do, and I will 326 00:24:09,784 --> 00:24:14,433 start with, in her book, "The Essential School Board Book" by Dr. 327 00:24:14,703 --> 00:24:20,643 Nancy Walser, she identifies the common practices for school districts 328 00:24:20,703 --> 00:24:22,383 with increasing student achievement. 329 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:28,323 They goal set, they identify the most important things that need to get done in the 330 00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:33,784 district. They operate by protocols and norms, and we're going to talk a little bit 331 00:24:33,843 --> 00:24:37,503 more about that. They understand the critical role of the chair. 332 00:24:37,953 --> 00:24:40,263 That would be you, Nick. And then, 333 00:24:41,613 --> 00:24:46,263 they are involved in the community, and they evaluate themselves with some 334 00:24:46,323 --> 00:24:51,093 regularity. So what we are going to do is 335 00:24:52,593 --> 00:24:57,274 always look at the four critical building blocks of an effective school board. 336 00:24:57,543 --> 00:24:59,253 It's what we talk about in core training. 337 00:24:59,643 --> 00:25:03,243 It's how we kind of summarize that work of the board that Dr. 338 00:25:03,483 --> 00:25:08,733 Nancy Walser talked about. And the first one is unity of purpose. 339 00:25:13,413 --> 00:25:18,663 Nope. Okay, graphic on. But your unity of purpose, 340 00:25:19,863 --> 00:25:25,263 it's the vision you have for the district, and you have to own that vision. 341 00:25:25,653 --> 00:25:31,323 It's your vision, your mission, your goals, it supports the common 342 00:25:31,413 --> 00:25:35,553 ground in which your school district operates. 343 00:25:37,203 --> 00:25:43,173 And if I'm not mistaken, you guys are coming up on completing your strategic plan. 344 00:25:44,223 --> 00:25:47,883 So you're going to be reviewing all of this. 345 00:25:48,483 --> 00:25:53,973 And one of the things that we like to do, and I'm going to let Amber lead this, and 346 00:25:54,063 --> 00:25:58,953 so that you hear a different voice, because that would be exciting and thrilling as 347 00:25:59,014 --> 00:26:00,003 we talk governance. 348 00:26:02,673 --> 00:26:04,893 Hey, everybody. Good afternoon. Hopefully, everybody's well. 349 00:26:05,283 --> 00:26:08,283 Like Ramona said, I am Amber Horton, and I have the pleasure of working with Ramona 350 00:26:08,343 --> 00:26:11,973 in board development. So when we were with you last time, we talked about these 351 00:26:12,003 --> 00:26:14,703 four building blocks, but we really only got through the first two. 352 00:26:15,243 --> 00:26:18,183 So we want to kind of do a quick review, set you up for some of your strategic 353 00:26:18,214 --> 00:26:21,483 planning that you guys are going to get into, and we've got a little bit of work to 354 00:26:21,514 --> 00:26:24,633 do with that. And then we're mostly going to talk about norms and protocols and set 355 00:26:24,693 --> 00:26:28,443 some protocols up for you all. With your unity of purpose, though, it's your 356 00:26:28,473 --> 00:26:31,533 foundation, right? Ramona always says, and if you've come to core training, that 357 00:26:31,563 --> 00:26:33,123 it's an arranged marriage, right? 358 00:26:33,214 --> 00:26:37,383 That you five together are an arranged marriage, and you are put together under 359 00:26:37,413 --> 00:26:39,603 some unique circumstances, and you've got to work through that. 360 00:26:39,964 --> 00:26:44,073 But each five of you, all five of you, came to the table with an idea about how you 361 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:47,373 wanted Davidson County Schools to look and what you want it to grow and how you 362 00:26:47,404 --> 00:26:50,673 wanted it to progress. So that's one of the things we want to just take a second on 363 00:26:50,794 --> 00:26:53,943 and to think about. What do you want to see happen, right? 364 00:26:53,973 --> 00:26:57,873 This is all going to start to get into some of your work as you start to do your 365 00:26:57,904 --> 00:27:03,423 strategic plan. In your packets that I came and brought you, there's a folder here. 366 00:27:04,443 --> 00:27:07,863 One of the first worksheets that it has on there on the left-hand side is it says 367 00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:12,243 Daily News. And what we want you to do, and this is just a great starting point for 368 00:27:12,274 --> 00:27:17,253 you to kind of hear everything, but also for your staff in the rooms to also hear 369 00:27:17,283 --> 00:27:19,923 this as well, but we want you to write a quick future headline. 370 00:27:20,163 --> 00:27:24,483 So we want you to imagine that it is September 21st of 2036, okay? 371 00:27:24,633 --> 00:27:28,743 Ten years from now, there is a newspaper headline, and it comes out, and what would 372 00:27:28,803 --> 00:27:30,933 you like that to say? That's ultimately what we want you to do. 373 00:27:31,024 --> 00:27:35,283 So take a second right now, jot down on that piece of paper, in 10 years from now, 374 00:27:35,464 --> 00:27:38,283 what does that headline say? And this is something that we've done with several 375 00:27:38,343 --> 00:27:40,743 boards across the state, and it's actually very interesting, and it's very 376 00:27:40,803 --> 00:27:44,103 enlightening for your superintendent as well, and staff to kind of hear some of the 377 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:47,733 key words and buzzwords that you all as the board would like to see. 378 00:27:47,973 --> 00:27:50,613 So we'll give you just a second, a couple seconds. I apologize. 379 00:27:50,613 --> 00:27:53,044 We'll give you a couple seconds to write what would you like your headline to be 380 00:27:55,848 --> 00:28:00,348 I love that y'all are still writing. I just want to say that. That's awesome. 381 00:28:00,678 --> 00:28:05,029 Anyone feel like sharing what their headline would be? I will. Do it. Thank you. 382 00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:09,498 I'm not still writing. This isn't a paragraph. That's all right. 383 00:28:09,589 --> 00:28:11,538 It's a headline. 384 00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:15,529 It's a headline. In bold print at the top of the page. I like it. 385 00:28:15,589 --> 00:28:19,578 All, double underline, Davidson County Schools exceed growth and improvement and 386 00:28:19,878 --> 00:28:24,798 100% graduation rate. Exceed growth, 100% graduation rate, all. All, emphasized. 387 00:28:24,798 --> 00:28:28,788 You getting that, staff? All. All. Perfect. Awesome. We love that. 388 00:28:29,089 --> 00:28:33,678 Thank you for sharing. Anyone else have something else they'd like to share what 389 00:28:33,828 --> 00:28:35,149 their headline would be? 390 00:28:35,238 --> 00:28:38,899 I'll stay on. Our schools are safer today than 10 years ago. 391 00:28:39,169 --> 00:28:41,538 Our kids are more successful 392 00:28:44,598 --> 00:28:45,498 today than 10 393 00:28:48,348 --> 00:28:50,808 years ago. Graduation rate is 394 00:28:52,368 --> 00:29:43,639 99%. 395 00:29:44,328 --> 00:29:47,748 Perfect. So we have safety in there, we have graduation rates, and I apologize, I 396 00:29:47,779 --> 00:29:48,618 missed that one in the middle. 397 00:29:49,068 --> 00:29:49,518 Successful. 398 00:29:49,698 --> 00:29:53,779 Successful. Awesome. Great. And from 10 years ago, you're really putting that 399 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:55,669 growth in there. Anybody else have one they'd like to share? 400 00:29:56,598 --> 00:29:56,899 I'll go. 401 00:29:57,139 --> 00:29:57,468 Do it. 402 00:29:57,768 --> 00:29:59,928 Mine simply says, "The standard is the standard. 403 00:29:59,988 --> 00:30:03,348 Davidson County Schools continues to lead by example across the state." 404 00:30:03,438 --> 00:30:07,548 Ooh. That's good. Y'all getting that? Everybody-- That was good. 405 00:30:07,578 --> 00:30:08,058 Yes. That's my favorite so far. 406 00:30:08,118 --> 00:30:11,298 That's good. Standard is the standard. Yeah, I like that. Those are great. 407 00:30:11,328 --> 00:30:12,468 Are you leading Wake County? 408 00:30:12,738 --> 00:30:13,098 Huh? 409 00:30:13,128 --> 00:30:16,938 Are you leading Wake County? He's leading Davidson and that's great. 410 00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:18,589 Yes. There's no need for that. 411 00:30:18,649 --> 00:30:19,578 If we need to, we will. 412 00:30:19,608 --> 00:30:22,998 Standard is the standard. Standard is the standard. We love that. 413 00:30:23,419 --> 00:30:25,698 Anyone else want to share? You don't have to. Anyone else want to share? 414 00:30:26,868 --> 00:30:30,198 Sets the gold standard. 100% schools achieving growth. 415 00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:34,368 I didn't mention the graduation rate, but that's where my mind was going. 416 00:30:34,788 --> 00:30:38,958 And I also went to the expanding just classroom opportunities and being fully 417 00:30:39,618 --> 00:30:40,308 staffed, 418 00:30:41,598 --> 00:30:44,839 and being able to fill all of our positions and have the resources that we need. 419 00:30:45,169 --> 00:30:45,889 Yeah, growth. 420 00:30:46,339 --> 00:30:47,868 Setting the gold standard. 421 00:30:48,438 --> 00:30:48,589 Mm-hmm. 422 00:30:48,589 --> 00:30:48,798 Nice. 423 00:30:49,158 --> 00:30:51,139 Set the gold standard. 424 00:30:51,258 --> 00:30:54,348 Why not? Bring it home. Bring it home. 425 00:30:54,468 --> 00:30:54,738 Okay. 426 00:30:55,698 --> 00:30:58,908 There's no medal on the inside, so there's no spot to be. 427 00:30:58,998 --> 00:31:02,389 Davidson County Schools continues to move ahead with community interaction and 428 00:31:02,448 --> 00:31:03,078 improvement. 429 00:31:03,798 --> 00:31:05,928 Ooh, I like the community. That's different. 430 00:31:06,348 --> 00:31:06,348 Yeah. 431 00:31:06,378 --> 00:31:07,818 That's really good. Great. 432 00:31:07,878 --> 00:31:13,669 Either way, all of you have that vision of, yes, it's going to 433 00:31:13,728 --> 00:31:17,058 be Davidson County will be the place to be. 434 00:31:17,089 --> 00:31:17,868 Mm-hmm. 435 00:31:17,899 --> 00:31:23,419 And that with things are happening that are making me the envy of the rest, 436 00:31:23,958 --> 00:31:25,878 the central. Great. Okay. 437 00:31:26,208 --> 00:31:26,868 The PTECH. 438 00:31:27,438 --> 00:31:27,678 Huh? 439 00:31:27,708 --> 00:31:29,149 The PTECH first in the state. 440 00:31:29,208 --> 00:31:30,078 PTECH, there we go. 441 00:31:30,139 --> 00:31:30,649 Yes. 442 00:31:30,738 --> 00:31:32,118 Keep it PTECH. Yep. 443 00:31:32,118 --> 00:31:34,578 And the PEMA. No, let's just put every state. 444 00:31:34,908 --> 00:31:35,029 Yeah. 445 00:31:35,358 --> 00:31:35,538 Why not? 446 00:31:35,598 --> 00:31:39,948 Envy of the state. There's no reason why you can't shoot for that and cast that 447 00:31:40,008 --> 00:31:44,958 vision out. And what's exciting is you get to hear from the communities and to do 448 00:31:45,618 --> 00:31:51,258 these same kinds of exercises with them and to hear what is your vision, and 449 00:31:51,288 --> 00:31:56,328 making sure that they have vision that's not focused on improvement and moving 450 00:31:56,419 --> 00:32:02,089 forward, but it's focused on our kids have the best opportunity from a 451 00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:03,978 fully staffed gold standard- 452 00:32:04,639 --> 00:32:05,178 Mm-hmm 453 00:32:05,178 --> 00:32:10,548 ... district, and we are making such gains that it will be the envy, 454 00:32:11,358 --> 00:32:13,998 the place to be. That's going to be so good. 455 00:32:16,758 --> 00:32:19,848 So, one of the things we also want to, and we add in this last question, so thank 456 00:32:19,878 --> 00:32:21,468 you all, one, for sharing and participating in that. 457 00:32:21,498 --> 00:32:24,438 It actually is really helpful to start to hear some of the buzzwords and some of 458 00:32:24,468 --> 00:32:28,068 the things and directions and thought that you all as a board are thinking, as 459 00:32:28,098 --> 00:32:29,779 you're working on your new strategic plan. 460 00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:32,658 But we want you to think about this last question, too, is what does your board 461 00:32:32,688 --> 00:32:34,968 need to consistently do to achieve your headline? 462 00:32:35,238 --> 00:32:37,818 And this isn't something that we're going to discuss right now, but we want you to 463 00:32:37,848 --> 00:32:41,899 think about, right? You all just shared improvement, growth, being the standard, 464 00:32:41,958 --> 00:32:45,558 being the best of the best. So what do you as a board need to do, and what does 465 00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:48,438 that look like? Right? A little help with that, though. 466 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:53,238 We've got this visual for you. Just to kind of help see some of the alignment. 467 00:32:53,658 --> 00:32:58,818 We've noticed that boards sometimes get a little confused sometimes as to where 468 00:32:58,908 --> 00:33:01,938 everything sort of fits together. So we've got this for you here. 469 00:33:01,998 --> 00:33:05,298 You've got your superintendent goals, right? You have your board goals. 470 00:33:05,328 --> 00:33:07,038 What are things you as a board would like to achieve? 471 00:33:07,339 --> 00:33:09,468 You have your teachers who are working hard in their classroom. 472 00:33:09,498 --> 00:33:12,919 They're working on their PDPs. They are teaching, and they are setting their own 473 00:33:12,948 --> 00:33:17,029 goals as well. All of that's going to funnel into your strategic plan. 474 00:33:17,268 --> 00:33:19,399 And one of the things that we're going to encourage is that you continue that 475 00:33:19,458 --> 00:33:23,178 alignment. So what your goals are, are going to match directly to that strategic 476 00:33:23,208 --> 00:33:26,238 plan. Everything is going to funnel back to the strategic plan. 477 00:33:26,268 --> 00:33:28,968 So if the strategic plan says that we are going to have a graduation increase, 478 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:32,688 everything that you do goes back to that point, and you can point to that. 479 00:33:32,988 --> 00:33:34,368 This is also something that's really good. 480 00:33:34,428 --> 00:33:37,339 Has anyone ever been stopped at the grocery store or somewhere, and you've gotten 481 00:33:37,399 --> 00:33:39,708 asked a question about why you're not doing something? Right? 482 00:33:40,128 --> 00:33:42,498 So giving you something as this is a good- 483 00:33:42,919 --> 00:33:43,518 That happens? 484 00:33:43,639 --> 00:33:44,899 It's a good discussion, I know. 485 00:33:46,128 --> 00:33:46,578 Oh, man. 486 00:33:48,169 --> 00:33:52,218 It's a good discussion point for people, for you all to say, "Well, we actually 487 00:33:52,248 --> 00:33:55,578 were working with the district in the northeast, and this really helped them." When 488 00:33:55,608 --> 00:33:58,998 you get stopped and you're kind of like, "Wait, what?" It gave them some 489 00:33:59,058 --> 00:34:02,508 communication points to be able to say that this is exactly the line that we're 490 00:34:02,538 --> 00:34:05,839 giving, according to our strategic plan goal four, whatever it is. 491 00:34:06,288 --> 00:34:09,678 It gives you just something to talk to and not kind of go, "What?" And then 492 00:34:09,708 --> 00:34:12,558 everything goes back and has your student success at the top. 493 00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:15,438 Now, that's what we're here for. We want our kids to do great things. 494 00:34:17,328 --> 00:34:22,458 So the second of the four, and we like to think of our four elements of effective 495 00:34:22,517 --> 00:34:23,808 governance as kind of like a table. 496 00:34:24,017 --> 00:34:26,868 If you're missing one or you're weak in one, your whole table's going to fall. 497 00:34:27,197 --> 00:34:30,378 So we did our unity of purpose. We understood what our visions, our thoughts, 498 00:34:30,498 --> 00:34:32,779 ideas. And then we have your role of the board. 499 00:34:32,808 --> 00:34:34,638 And this is something that I'm actually going to credit to Ramona. 500 00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:38,328 She created this cogwheel graphic and kind of put this together in her head to give 501 00:34:38,388 --> 00:34:42,319 a different representation, sort of the clock idea that we still normally do, 502 00:34:42,378 --> 00:34:44,779 though. But to say that you as a board have your roles. 503 00:34:46,008 --> 00:34:50,508 You have superintendent and staff have their roles, and you're working together in 504 00:34:50,569 --> 00:34:52,878 cohesion to make sure that your district is moving forward. 505 00:34:52,938 --> 00:34:56,868 In order to achieve your unity of purpose, this is going to be the most effective 506 00:34:56,928 --> 00:34:57,168 way. 507 00:34:58,908 --> 00:35:00,408 And we just think it's a good new graphic. 508 00:35:03,408 --> 00:35:06,228 Another visual representation, sometimes that's the best way as adults that you can 509 00:35:06,288 --> 00:35:08,868 learn is through experience and through visual representation. 510 00:35:08,928 --> 00:35:13,458 Just so you understand, you as a board are part of the ends, and your 511 00:35:13,518 --> 00:35:17,748 superintendent is the means. You are going to give the directive to say, "We would 512 00:35:17,808 --> 00:35:22,068 like to see graduation rate increase by X amount." And then you're going to give it 513 00:35:22,098 --> 00:35:24,288 to your superintendent and your district staff to get there. 514 00:35:24,768 --> 00:35:27,888 That's going to be that separation between your ends and your means. 515 00:35:27,978 --> 00:35:30,288 You all are going to give the directive, and then you're going to let your 516 00:35:30,348 --> 00:35:33,798 superintendent, who you have confidence in, and your district staff, you also have 517 00:35:33,828 --> 00:35:35,838 confidence in, to take that to the next level. 518 00:35:39,138 --> 00:35:40,248 All right, you ready for the good stuff? 519 00:35:41,058 --> 00:35:43,308 Yeah. 520 00:35:43,368 --> 00:35:48,468 Okay. So the third and fourth of our elements of effective governance are norms and 521 00:35:48,498 --> 00:35:50,988 protocols. And this is something that we've been talking a lot about. 522 00:35:51,048 --> 00:35:55,338 A lot of our boards are wanting to do this work, but not quite sure where to go 523 00:35:55,398 --> 00:35:57,138 with the work or how to get the work done. 524 00:35:57,378 --> 00:36:00,199 So that's what we're going to spend the last part of our time with you all is 525 00:36:00,258 --> 00:36:03,918 actually kind of getting into what does that look like and how can we do it as a 526 00:36:03,978 --> 00:36:08,268 board, and hopefully leave you with some hardcore stuff. 527 00:36:08,328 --> 00:36:12,708 Your norms are going to be your team culture. That's the behaviors of your board. 528 00:36:13,128 --> 00:36:15,618 We know that you all are in a great place right now. We've heard great things. 529 00:36:15,678 --> 00:36:18,918 We've heard that everything in Davidson is going very well. That's wonderful. 530 00:36:18,978 --> 00:36:22,458 This is a great place for this work to happen because it doesn't make it as mucky 531 00:36:22,518 --> 00:36:25,728 and as murky as it could be. It shows that your board culture, and you all have 532 00:36:25,758 --> 00:36:29,568 worked really hard to sustain a positive board culture. So those are your norms. 533 00:36:30,378 --> 00:36:32,418 Then your protocols, though, are going to be your processes. 534 00:36:32,478 --> 00:36:37,279 Those are going to be what actions that you take when a certain event has triggered 535 00:36:37,308 --> 00:36:41,478 something. When you get the complaint in the grocery store, when you get the 536 00:36:41,538 --> 00:36:46,098 wanting something on the agenda, when you get anything of that specific event, how 537 00:36:46,128 --> 00:36:49,398 do we do that? And how do we, as a board, want to agree that that's going to get 538 00:36:49,458 --> 00:36:53,328 done? So you want to make sure that you've got positive behavior, and that behavior 539 00:36:53,388 --> 00:36:55,668 is supported by certain specific actions. 540 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,280 And sorry, you got it. No, this year you should. 541 00:37:04,471 --> 00:37:09,991 We did. And so finally, the third element of effective governance is, what is the 542 00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:16,020 board's job? And I love this graphic because it's similar to 543 00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:21,660 a clock, but the board's activities are on the outside, and all of the activities 544 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:26,640 of your staff and superintendent are on the inside. The board sets direction. 545 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:32,940 That is yours. As you begin to work on your new strategic plan, 546 00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:39,030 you're setting the vision. You're working with community to hear the mission and 547 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:44,851 establish that. You do those types of things, and we usually do that well. 548 00:37:45,330 --> 00:37:50,101 You establish the structure, which is kind of similar to your policy role, because 549 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,590 you make the laws of the land, and you keep your board attorney close by. 550 00:37:56,130 --> 00:38:01,140 I can't say that enough. Thank God he's here, so he can keep me in line. 551 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,980 But you establish the structure by which the district can operate and that your 552 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:09,930 staff can do everything they need to do. 553 00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:16,560 Usually at the bottom, creating a supportive environment, that's where you ensure 554 00:38:16,650 --> 00:38:22,050 that what you need to do, you're doing, with the proper culture and focusing on 555 00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:25,830 those things that are not the day-to-day 556 00:38:27,090 --> 00:38:29,460 staff items, which I know you don't do. Bless you. 557 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,000 But just creating that supportive environment, and ensuring accountability, 558 00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:41,940 reviewing those scores and everything, that's so awesome, and then just keeping 559 00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:46,351 everything in order, all while you're providing community leadership throughout. 560 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:52,140 So you're interacting with the community, and as Amber suggested, it's a good idea 561 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,270 to have that elevator speech of, "Our schools are doing this to meet these goals 562 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:02,400 that we have established." So you're having that conversation with them and it's 563 00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:05,790 keeping that connection with your community. 564 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,670 And so if we begin with 565 00:39:10,290 --> 00:39:14,790 what's happening at the board table and the culture here, continuing from the 566 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,640 conversation that we had last year, do you remember our norms activity 567 00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:22,500 that we did last year? 568 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,241 It's okay. 569 00:39:24,810 --> 00:39:27,570 It's okay if not. That wasn't a test. 570 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,390 But as Amber said, your norms are talking about how you behave and treat each 571 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,340 other. And I know that there's respect here, which is wonderful. 572 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,150 If you don't have the norm-- You guys have election. 573 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:44,070 Yes, I know you're having elections, 574 00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:51,060 Nick. So yeah. But if you don't already have your norms written down, 575 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:58,020 write them down and use them as part of orienting new people to 576 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,290 the board. You want to protect and to 577 00:40:02,610 --> 00:40:07,440 have available for anybody to see, "These are the habits. 578 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:10,980 These are the ways we operate and treat each other. 579 00:40:11,310 --> 00:40:14,370 We treat each other with respect. We treat each other with 580 00:40:15,899 --> 00:40:17,221 kindness. We listen." 581 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,660 And I know you have your policy 2120. We walked through that last time. 582 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,741 The thing is, it's great to have 583 00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:35,340 what we call a cooperation agreement that doesn't supersede. 584 00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:41,130 Your policies are top, but your code of cooperation is an opportunity to plainly 585 00:40:41,221 --> 00:40:44,430 state how you want to get things done. 586 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:50,700 This is sample norms from a North Carolina district where they took some 587 00:40:50,851 --> 00:40:55,020 things. They were in conflict, actually, when they created these. 588 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:01,140 But look at just this list, and I know I shifted through a lot of different 589 00:41:01,230 --> 00:41:07,170 slides quickly, but we want to work on protocols. But look at number one. 590 00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:13,620 We treat board members, staff, and the public, mm, with 591 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,480 respect, modeling the behaviors we want for ourselves and others. 592 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:21,270 It's a very simplistic way of 593 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,200 pulling out a small piece from your ethics policy, but saying it so plainly that 594 00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:32,971 this is how we behave all the time at the board table. This is who we are. 595 00:41:33,991 --> 00:41:39,960 So, they even have a violation. People who violate, board members who 596 00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:45,420 feel their colleagues have violated any portion of the agreement, commit themselves 597 00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:48,270 to talking one-on-one with the member in question. 598 00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:53,851 If they cannot reach consensus on resolving the matter, the issue is to be brought 599 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:58,590 to the entire board. And I think what's so important is 600 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:06,030 they understand and want to protect what they are doing, what they have. 601 00:42:06,270 --> 00:42:09,721 And having that good culture, having that 602 00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:16,080 understanding of how we behave and treat each other, it's worth protecting. 603 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,820 Because if you don't protect that in an arranged marriage, sorry you have to hear 604 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,140 this again, but in an arranged marriage, you can have these little cracks, these 605 00:42:25,230 --> 00:42:29,010 tiny little things that can start to be irritating. 606 00:42:29,491 --> 00:42:34,950 And then all of a sudden, you have a blowup that started from something that's so 607 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,450 tiny. And 608 00:42:38,010 --> 00:42:42,270 I heard someone say we didn't all sit at the same dinner table and have the exact 609 00:42:42,330 --> 00:42:46,980 same values. And so what could be offensive to me, let me tell you, in my house, 610 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,210 Mom didn't let one drop of alcohol in there. 611 00:42:51,601 --> 00:42:55,800 She's Pentecostal Holiness, so no. No alcohol in the house. 612 00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:57,241 Daddy didn't bring it in the house. 613 00:42:57,870 --> 00:43:02,760 But maybe things were different in your house, that it's okay. 614 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:04,590 I've never had a beer. 615 00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:05,971 My 616 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:11,910 mother's 87. I will not defy her to this day. 617 00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:12,721 But 618 00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:19,560 the same things, the same standards that were expected at your dinner table is 619 00:43:19,590 --> 00:43:21,690 going to be different from anybody else's. 620 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:27,991 And so you want to have norms conversations to be able to not let any 621 00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:33,780 little crack break you from reaching that 10-year goal and those headlines you all 622 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,790 set. Any questions on that? Because I'm going to turn it over to Amber. 623 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:45,150 Okay, so you ready for some stickers? 624 00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:45,991 Yep. 625 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:51,180 So in your packets, there was a collection of stickers. 626 00:43:51,241 --> 00:43:54,510 If you will please grab those for us. We're actually going to get into some work. 627 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:59,280 Our goal is to at least leave you all with one developed protocol, and hopefully 628 00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:02,520 continue on your work from there. So let's get started, though, with what that one 629 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:07,380 protocol is going to be. Just a reminder, protocols, though, are going to be the 630 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,380 steps that you take when a certain event has been triggered. Right? 631 00:44:10,471 --> 00:44:15,210 Again, you want something put on the agenda, you would like to have a response to 632 00:44:15,241 --> 00:44:19,920 community complaint. Whatever the specific event may be, we want to make sure that 633 00:44:19,950 --> 00:44:23,700 we have, as Davidson County School Board, a way to help and address that. 634 00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:27,360 So here's our general process. So we're going to do that tonight. 635 00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:30,750 It's a general process, though, for how to facilitate that discussion. 636 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,070 So first, right, we're going to decide what protocol is needed. Okay? 637 00:44:35,101 --> 00:44:37,680 There's going to be a lot. We've got some examples for you, so we're going to try 638 00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:40,290 to help decide what protocol we first want to do. 639 00:44:41,070 --> 00:44:44,700 We want to make sure, though, that we understand the issue, that everyone has 640 00:44:44,851 --> 00:44:48,300 access and the ability to share what they're thinking about the issue. 641 00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:52,260 One of the things that we found, too, is that sometimes particular issues can just 642 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,880 be solved with going over your norms. 643 00:44:53,971 --> 00:44:59,730 It could just be having a conversation of, "Hey, remember, let's refer back to norm 644 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,420 on our individual board member responsibility number 10," whatever it may be. 645 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,190 Just kind of helping to review some of that. 646 00:45:05,730 --> 00:45:07,440 We want to make sure, though, again, everyone's got a voice. 647 00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:09,450 Then we actually want to write the protocol. 648 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,971 And we're going to show you some examples that protocols can be done in different 649 00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:16,170 ways. Okay? It doesn't have to be this massive step. It could be a sentence or two. 650 00:45:16,471 --> 00:45:19,140 Whatever is the will of the board is going to work for you all. 651 00:45:19,170 --> 00:45:21,120 We want to work on that culture as best as possible. 652 00:45:21,930 --> 00:45:25,110 Then we want to also make sure that we are all clear. 653 00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:26,880 We're glad that we have our attorney here tonight. 654 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,360 We want to make sure we are all clear in terms of any violations when we've written 655 00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:33,630 that protocol. And then we want to make sure, too, that we set at the very last 656 00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:35,820 step, that we set a when we're going to review. 657 00:45:35,971 --> 00:45:39,840 Just like you review your policies within a year, or you set that schedule for when 658 00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:42,480 you're going to review, you want to review your protocols as well. Right? 659 00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:45,900 Is it going to be as needed? Is it going to be in a year? Is it two years? 660 00:45:45,991 --> 00:45:49,020 Whatever it may be. Because, again, protocols are the will of the board and 661 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:50,280 whatever you want them to be. 662 00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:51,810 So 663 00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:55,380 here's some other examples for you, just to kind of get your head around them. 664 00:45:55,471 --> 00:45:59,190 Visiting schools, communicating with board members, asking agenda questions. 665 00:45:59,221 --> 00:46:01,260 Those are all, again, examples of protocols 666 00:46:03,114 --> 00:46:06,624 I know this is a little hard to see. The two on the left are actually protocols 667 00:46:06,684 --> 00:46:08,574 that were written from boards in Virginia. 668 00:46:08,994 --> 00:46:13,704 Surprisingly, this is work that North Carolina has done starts. 669 00:46:13,855 --> 00:46:15,234 We've got several boards that started. 670 00:46:15,294 --> 00:46:18,114 We don't have many that actually complete it, and we hope that Davidson is going to 671 00:46:18,144 --> 00:46:22,074 be one of those boards that completes it and is able to showcase this. 672 00:46:22,494 --> 00:46:26,574 So this is in your packet, but on the left-hand side from Virginia, just want you 673 00:46:26,605 --> 00:46:29,724 to be able to visually see their protocols are two sentences. 674 00:46:29,874 --> 00:46:34,884 When it says how the board is going to set the agenda, it literally says the board 675 00:46:34,944 --> 00:46:38,994 chair, superintendent, and board clerk decide the agenda. Boom, done. One sentence. 676 00:46:39,054 --> 00:46:42,924 That was their entire protocol. However you want that to work for you is how it can 677 00:46:42,954 --> 00:46:48,234 work for you. On the right-hand side is actually a sample of NCSBA's protocol that 678 00:46:48,294 --> 00:46:51,773 we've done and a sample protocol on communicating with the media, and we've stepped 679 00:46:51,804 --> 00:46:54,984 it out. All right? It has one through five. It really goes into detail. 680 00:46:55,044 --> 00:46:56,544 We have some things for you to consider. 681 00:46:57,025 --> 00:47:00,204 We just want you to see and know that there is no one way to get this done. 682 00:47:00,264 --> 00:47:03,744 It is whatever is going to work best for the board. Okay? 683 00:47:06,204 --> 00:47:08,424 All right. So you got your stickers. 684 00:47:09,144 --> 00:47:11,904 Ramona here is going to be our Vanna White for you all. 685 00:47:12,355 --> 00:47:14,004 Aren't you so glad I brought her? Right. 686 00:47:14,605 --> 00:47:17,484 She is going to-- And I wish we were winning money at the end of this. 687 00:47:17,964 --> 00:47:22,855 What we've got, though, is that we have got six examples of protocols that are most 688 00:47:22,914 --> 00:47:26,424 common for boards that they kind of want to work on, and we want to ultimately 689 00:47:26,514 --> 00:47:31,044 decide right now with your board using stickers, to decide which ones are going to 690 00:47:31,074 --> 00:47:35,214 be most priority. So on your sheet, green, you're going to use a green sticker if 691 00:47:35,275 --> 00:47:39,054 you think that protocol for you as Davidson County Board is doing really well. 692 00:47:39,114 --> 00:47:40,194 You're like, "We're great. We're awesome. 693 00:47:40,224 --> 00:47:43,284 We don't need to talk about this." You're going to use the yellow if you're like, 694 00:47:43,374 --> 00:47:45,534 "Eh, we should probably get there." Right? 695 00:47:46,224 --> 00:47:50,064 Red is going to be, "Yeah, I think we need to work on that." And your blue is going 696 00:47:50,094 --> 00:47:52,164 to be, "This is not a priority right now." Right? 697 00:47:52,254 --> 00:47:54,114 So basically, green is going to be, we're good. 698 00:47:54,594 --> 00:47:57,384 Yellow is going to put some caution in there, like maybe something we should talk 699 00:47:57,444 --> 00:48:01,794 about, but not a priority. Red is going to be your priority, and blue is going to 700 00:48:01,824 --> 00:48:04,314 be not anything we want to talk about right now. Okay? 701 00:48:04,855 --> 00:48:08,904 So the six that we have for you, communicating with the superintendent, meeting 702 00:48:08,964 --> 00:48:14,874 agenda, responding to complaints, visits to campuses, confidentiality, and 703 00:48:14,934 --> 00:48:19,764 avoiding surprises. So what we'd like you to do is of those six in the boxes that 704 00:48:19,794 --> 00:48:23,124 are on the chart paper here, take your color. All right? Take your sticker. 705 00:48:23,184 --> 00:48:26,124 So let's just say it's a blue sticker for you for avoiding surprises. 706 00:48:26,514 --> 00:48:29,184 That feels great to you. You're like, "It's not a priority right now." You're going 707 00:48:29,184 --> 00:48:32,244 to put a blue in the avoiding surprises box. All right? 708 00:48:32,574 --> 00:48:36,234 So this gives you all a chance to kind of visually see what protocols you'd like to 709 00:48:36,264 --> 00:48:39,444 work on first. Questions for clarification? 710 00:48:41,214 --> 00:48:44,094 Awesome. If you all will take your chance, take a little stretch break, come up to 711 00:48:44,154 --> 00:48:45,594 the board here and place your stickers. 712 00:48:45,684 --> 00:48:50,394 Again, green is going to be, you're crushing it. We feel good. Right? 713 00:48:50,874 --> 00:48:53,034 Yellow is going to be something we should talk about. 714 00:48:53,874 --> 00:48:55,855 Red is going to be something we should definitely talk about. 715 00:48:55,914 --> 00:48:59,275 Yikes, we need to work on that. And blue is going to be, that's not a priority 716 00:48:59,304 --> 00:49:00,984 right now. We don't need to talk about it. Right? 717 00:49:04,914 --> 00:49:08,034 So of your six, again, communicating with the superintendent, meeting agenda, 718 00:49:08,124 --> 00:49:11,304 responding to complaints, visits to campuses, confidentiality, and avoiding 719 00:49:11,364 --> 00:49:13,434 surprises. Come on up. Come on down. 720 00:49:14,214 --> 00:49:16,105 Say hi to somebody if you haven't said hi to them yet. 721 00:49:17,784 --> 00:49:19,704 You are in kindergarten. It's fine. We're learning. 722 00:49:19,734 --> 00:49:20,814 Who doesn't like stickers? 723 00:49:20,904 --> 00:49:21,084 Yeah. 724 00:49:21,144 --> 00:49:22,044 So don't use 725 00:49:23,514 --> 00:49:28,254 green, yellow, red, and blue. You can't use any other colors. 726 00:49:28,824 --> 00:49:29,094 We don't- 727 00:49:29,994 --> 00:49:31,044 Only your primary ones. 728 00:49:31,194 --> 00:49:32,184 Yeah, only primary. 729 00:49:37,044 --> 00:49:38,994 I don't know what you mean by avoiding surprises. 730 00:49:39,775 --> 00:49:41,904 Well, great question. 731 00:49:42,025 --> 00:49:42,564 Oh, yeah. 732 00:49:43,404 --> 00:49:45,984 No, that doesn't mean. Not at all. That's a great question. 733 00:49:46,584 --> 00:49:50,784 If you don't have to wonder what it means, that's a good thing. 734 00:49:50,874 --> 00:49:53,034 That means nobody's surprising you. 735 00:50:28,855 --> 00:50:30,084 See, that's good. That's great. 736 00:50:44,514 --> 00:50:44,544 That's okay. 737 00:50:44,605 --> 00:50:45,264 That's okay. 738 00:50:47,904 --> 00:50:53,334 Well, we talk about avoiding surprises sometimes in the arena of 739 00:50:54,624 --> 00:51:00,294 if you're out in the community, which all five of y'all are, and somebody comes up 740 00:51:00,355 --> 00:51:04,824 to you and asks you something that's going on in the school system and you don't 741 00:51:04,855 --> 00:51:08,364 know anything about it, that's a surprise you don't want. 742 00:51:08,904 --> 00:51:11,334 Or you can be like me and never go to school anymore. 743 00:51:12,655 --> 00:51:13,104 Correct. 744 00:51:14,514 --> 00:51:18,775 But then it's also-- I mean, Ramona, you can jump in here, too, if you think I'm 745 00:51:19,315 --> 00:51:22,554 wrong, but also that's a two-way street in 746 00:51:23,785 --> 00:51:26,875 if you have questions before board meetings- 747 00:51:27,414 --> 00:51:27,444 Mm-hmm 748 00:51:27,474 --> 00:51:28,134 ... see if we can 749 00:51:29,994 --> 00:51:33,234 at least let them, let your staff know, Dr. 750 00:51:33,294 --> 00:51:35,964 Slate and his cabinet know, "I'm going to have some questions about this." Come 751 00:51:36,025 --> 00:51:37,194 with that information. 752 00:51:37,224 --> 00:51:38,364 So it's not like a you're getting caught with your pants down. 753 00:51:38,364 --> 00:51:38,364 It's not the other direction. 754 00:51:38,364 --> 00:51:38,484 You're- 755 00:51:41,604 --> 00:51:43,494 You don't want to have a got you moment- 756 00:51:43,584 --> 00:51:44,934 Correct. That's what they call it 757 00:51:44,964 --> 00:51:50,785 ... for the staff, and you don't want to be the got you person. 758 00:51:51,084 --> 00:51:51,775 We got you. 759 00:51:52,884 --> 00:51:54,474 Well, we should have sticked to stickers. 760 00:51:55,734 --> 00:51:56,454 And if you don't- 761 00:51:59,275 --> 00:52:00,174 Well, that's okay. 762 00:52:00,565 --> 00:52:06,264 You have seven? That's okay. Don't worry. If it's green, which it is. That's okay. 763 00:52:06,324 --> 00:52:07,494 Substantial compliance. 764 00:52:07,644 --> 00:52:09,684 Substantial. And that's okay. 765 00:52:11,364 --> 00:52:12,174 I, um- 766 00:52:14,394 --> 00:52:15,804 It's like we agreed on one. 767 00:52:16,164 --> 00:52:19,494 The most red that I'm seeing is on responding to complaints. 768 00:52:20,184 --> 00:52:23,875 Four said that that is something that they would like to work on, and someone said 769 00:52:23,905 --> 00:52:27,984 that that is, the yellow for that, so they do have a process for that. 770 00:52:28,373 --> 00:52:32,724 So you have some there. And then we kind of flipped for avoiding surprises. 771 00:52:32,724 --> 00:52:36,474 So we got four that said yellow and one that said red. Okay. 772 00:52:36,565 --> 00:52:39,954 It looks like confidentiality, great. You're crushing it. Great job. 773 00:52:40,044 --> 00:52:41,994 That's great. Can I say thank you? 774 00:52:42,504 --> 00:52:42,924 Thank you, guys. 775 00:52:42,954 --> 00:52:44,184 Thank you. 776 00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:47,844 It's not always been that way, but I feel like this board is doing just great on 777 00:52:47,934 --> 00:52:48,084 this. 778 00:52:48,384 --> 00:52:50,275 Most of the time, that's one that's fully red. 779 00:52:50,574 --> 00:52:51,894 I don't know. 780 00:52:51,924 --> 00:52:54,535 Meeting agenda looks okay too. We got some green there. 781 00:52:55,014 --> 00:52:59,964 Visits to campuses look green. And then probably our third, communication with 782 00:53:00,025 --> 00:53:02,994 superintendent is probably-- So I would say responding to complaints, avoiding 783 00:53:03,025 --> 00:53:06,474 surprises, and communication with superintendent is probably kind of where we want 784 00:53:06,535 --> 00:53:07,584 to start working from. 785 00:53:08,244 --> 00:53:08,634 All right. 786 00:53:08,724 --> 00:53:13,974 And not-- Okay. How do we feel about responding to complaints kind of universally? 787 00:53:14,574 --> 00:53:18,234 Kind of roughly where we came here. Okay? Okay, cool. All right. 788 00:53:18,294 --> 00:53:18,324 And- 789 00:53:18,324 --> 00:53:20,244 I don't like starting with the worst and hardest 790 00:53:20,364 --> 00:53:21,114 ... starting with the worst is okay. 791 00:53:21,174 --> 00:53:21,924 That's okay. 792 00:53:21,984 --> 00:53:24,894 Well, and first we have to-- So we may not finish everything, but Brittany's going 793 00:53:24,924 --> 00:53:28,434 to give you something so you know kind of how and where you need to go with this. 794 00:53:28,494 --> 00:53:33,324 Right? In your packets, there is a worksheet as well in the back, and it says, 795 00:53:33,444 --> 00:53:37,824 "Operating protocols guide worksheet" on this. 796 00:53:38,035 --> 00:53:42,744 We put two copies in there in case you didn't have a lot of pages to get this. 797 00:53:43,644 --> 00:53:48,114 Okay. So if we're following our flowchart, though, of looking at trying to figure 798 00:53:48,174 --> 00:53:50,994 out how we write this protocol, what are some of the things, what are some of our 799 00:53:51,025 --> 00:53:54,144 concerns that we're having with responding to complaints? 800 00:53:54,625 --> 00:53:57,804 Let's just kind of talk through, clarify the first one, just because it clarifies 801 00:53:57,834 --> 00:53:59,484 the issue. So we need to clarify the issue. 802 00:53:59,514 --> 00:54:02,244 When we say responding to complaints, what's the issue? What's the concern? 803 00:54:02,334 --> 00:54:04,375 Where's the problem we want to help to dial out? 804 00:54:04,494 --> 00:54:06,984 Is it community complaints that you're worried about? 805 00:54:07,104 --> 00:54:09,414 Is it-- Where do we want to start? 806 00:54:09,504 --> 00:54:10,614 I'd say community complaints. 807 00:54:11,155 --> 00:54:16,884 I would think at times, and everyone included, we don't hear about things until it 808 00:54:17,574 --> 00:54:20,214 comes through the internet or somebody shares a post or something. 809 00:54:20,244 --> 00:54:21,054 You turn on the TV. 810 00:54:21,114 --> 00:54:26,155 You turn some-- Whatever that is. And so oftentimes, no fault to our own internal 811 00:54:26,214 --> 00:54:28,194 staff because they've not even been notified. 812 00:54:28,285 --> 00:54:32,035 So admittedly, from the folks, the complainers that have posted stuff or said 813 00:54:32,094 --> 00:54:37,824 things, the question is always, "Have you shared that with..." And oftentimes it's, 814 00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:38,424 "No." 815 00:54:38,905 --> 00:54:38,905 No. 816 00:54:38,994 --> 00:54:41,035 Or they put it on, they went to the internet first. 817 00:54:41,155 --> 00:54:44,994 Yeah, we found social media is way faster than the- 818 00:54:45,625 --> 00:54:46,194 It's the devil 819 00:54:46,285 --> 00:54:46,614 ... school. 820 00:54:48,025 --> 00:54:48,204 It does. 821 00:54:48,324 --> 00:54:52,584 Okay. So we're hearing, is it, and if I'm listening, is it responding to complaints 822 00:54:52,644 --> 00:54:57,535 is more if you all would like some communication, some lines to be able to say, 823 00:54:57,864 --> 00:55:02,934 like some direct lines to be able to have, to be able to say, like, "Have you-" 824 00:55:03,768 --> 00:55:07,308 to experts and have you tell him, is that more what we're going to do? 825 00:55:07,489 --> 00:55:07,878 I think we- 826 00:55:08,658 --> 00:55:09,318 I think we generally- 827 00:55:09,318 --> 00:55:12,829 We've gotten better at that in general, to say, "You've got to go through the 828 00:55:12,858 --> 00:55:13,548 proper channels." 829 00:55:14,959 --> 00:55:15,288 Listen, 830 00:55:16,878 --> 00:55:20,568 if an email comes through, we're saying, "We have forwarded this to the appropriate 831 00:55:20,658 --> 00:55:25,668 channels. We can't handle this, but somebody in the central office and/or needs to 832 00:55:25,668 --> 00:55:25,968 investigate." 833 00:55:26,028 --> 00:55:27,528 We never say, "I can handle it." 834 00:55:28,608 --> 00:55:28,878 Yeah. 835 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,648 We never say, "I can handle it." 836 00:55:30,709 --> 00:55:30,798 No. 837 00:55:31,518 --> 00:55:35,868 And a lot of times we'll even include those folks and say, "While this is not in 838 00:55:35,929 --> 00:55:38,959 our realm of expertise, these folks are in the day-to-day. 839 00:55:39,558 --> 00:55:43,848 If you don't get satisfied, if you need to come back to us, you can. 840 00:55:43,908 --> 00:55:47,179 But right now, give them the opportunity to handle the problem at hand." 841 00:55:48,108 --> 00:55:49,728 So that's what everyone's doing now? 842 00:55:50,209 --> 00:55:50,209 Mm-hmm. 843 00:55:50,268 --> 00:55:53,209 We say it's operational, and then send it to him- 844 00:55:53,298 --> 00:55:54,168 It usually includes someone- 845 00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:55,158 And then follow up 846 00:55:55,188 --> 00:55:59,418 ... someone, if not multiple people involved in the cabinet level who can help 847 00:55:59,508 --> 00:56:02,449 answer their question. If it's curriculum, obviously it's Dr. Coley. 848 00:56:02,538 --> 00:56:03,378 If it's something with- 849 00:56:04,548 --> 00:56:05,508 Well, if it's Terry 850 00:56:05,688 --> 00:56:07,638 ... athletics or operations, it's Mr. Johnson. 851 00:56:07,728 --> 00:56:12,408 If it's someone's feelings or something going on with a counselor or something, 852 00:56:12,468 --> 00:56:15,888 then it's Dr. Greer. So we try to divide that based on who it is. 853 00:56:17,268 --> 00:56:19,638 And as the board attorney, do you hear any problems? 854 00:56:21,438 --> 00:56:23,418 I still think it's just prevalent in our community. 855 00:56:23,538 --> 00:56:23,688 At 856 00:56:25,758 --> 00:56:27,798 least I do, I feel uncomfortable 857 00:56:29,179 --> 00:56:29,358 with 858 00:56:31,068 --> 00:56:34,878 how frustrated our community is. Even though we're probably handling it 859 00:56:34,938 --> 00:56:38,179 appropriately, it's still how do we maybe- 860 00:56:39,138 --> 00:56:39,888 Root issues. 861 00:56:40,638 --> 00:56:40,878 Uh-huh. 862 00:56:41,148 --> 00:56:42,498 Like the root of how do you- 863 00:56:42,498 --> 00:56:42,768 Yes. 864 00:56:42,858 --> 00:56:43,128 Right. 865 00:56:43,368 --> 00:56:45,079 And/or, yes. And/or- 866 00:56:45,408 --> 00:56:47,598 It feels like there's a serious lack of trust. 867 00:56:48,048 --> 00:56:49,429 So no matter what we do- 868 00:56:49,818 --> 00:56:49,878 Yes 869 00:56:49,878 --> 00:56:51,468 ... they're going to pounce on it- 870 00:56:51,588 --> 00:56:52,278 You're exactly right 871 00:56:52,278 --> 00:56:56,058 ... and immediately assume the absolute worst of us no matter what we do, and 872 00:56:56,088 --> 00:56:59,148 that's very hard to deal with on a daily basis. 873 00:56:59,658 --> 00:57:00,679 And it takes time, right? 874 00:57:03,949 --> 00:57:07,908 It didn't take us two years to get here in this spot in our community, so it isn't 875 00:57:07,938 --> 00:57:12,648 going to be fixed in two years. So that takes time and consistent follow-up and 876 00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:17,929 follow-through with things. I think the biggest thing for all of us is those 877 00:57:17,989 --> 00:57:23,929 blindside moments of like, "Dr. Slate's not aware, our staff's not aware, no one's 878 00:57:23,989 --> 00:57:27,798 aware of anything," but next thing you know, the whole community's aware of it, and 879 00:57:27,888 --> 00:57:31,878 it's one of those things that as if we've known about it and just purposely not 880 00:57:31,938 --> 00:57:33,348 doing something to fix it. 881 00:57:33,888 --> 00:57:34,908 Yeah. 882 00:57:34,968 --> 00:57:38,658 When you ask, "Oh, have you shared this with your folks?" or, "What do you 883 00:57:38,688 --> 00:57:40,968 recommend as a solution?" "Oh, I don't have that. 884 00:57:41,808 --> 00:57:46,038 They don't ever hit me." So that's the hardest part for us is letting them know, 885 00:57:46,098 --> 00:57:49,398 "Hey, have you followed the proper chain of commands? 886 00:57:49,429 --> 00:57:52,758 And then if you have, then let us get involved." 887 00:57:53,148 --> 00:57:55,579 The one thing we've also found is that people lie a lot. 888 00:57:56,658 --> 00:57:56,718 Yeah. 889 00:57:56,748 --> 00:58:01,728 So they say they followed the proper chain, and they haven't, or they just- 890 00:58:02,148 --> 00:58:02,148 Right. Didn't want to answer 891 00:58:02,148 --> 00:58:05,658 ... of course, want to jump right to the top without ever going through anything 892 00:58:05,748 --> 00:58:10,278 else, and we're all members of this community, so a lot of times we know people 893 00:58:10,338 --> 00:58:12,468 personally. So it's challenging. 894 00:58:15,378 --> 00:58:19,548 And oftentimes, our children are involved in the same situations that these other 895 00:58:19,608 --> 00:58:21,228 folks' children are involved with, right? 896 00:58:21,288 --> 00:58:25,218 With this AC issue at North Davidson or Ledford, my child or Ms. 897 00:58:25,278 --> 00:58:29,179 Kunce's child's involved in that as well, right? So we feel their pain also. 898 00:58:29,778 --> 00:58:35,418 I think there's a big differentiator between us as parents here and 899 00:58:35,478 --> 00:58:40,699 humans, and then, "Oh, they're the board." It's some farce of what we're trying to 900 00:58:40,728 --> 00:58:41,388 accomplish. 901 00:58:42,138 --> 00:58:42,168 Right. 902 00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:46,638 It definitely is a challenge getting your community to understand that you don't 903 00:58:46,728 --> 00:58:52,638 have all the power, and it's something you have to communicate over and over 904 00:58:52,699 --> 00:58:53,598 and over. 905 00:58:57,709 --> 00:58:59,568 But it's what you have to do. 906 00:59:00,918 --> 00:59:06,739 You're educating them on what a board member individually does by 907 00:59:06,829 --> 00:59:09,378 saying, "You've got to go through the chain of command. 908 00:59:09,528 --> 00:59:09,918 If you 909 00:59:12,408 --> 00:59:17,898 want your situation handled as quickly as possible, you've got to go through the 910 00:59:17,959 --> 00:59:23,538 chain of command, because if you don't start there, it's going to take much longer 911 00:59:23,628 --> 00:59:27,168 and you're not going to get the resolve that you're looking for." 912 00:59:29,298 --> 00:59:30,798 And that's educating people. 913 00:59:33,498 --> 00:59:38,868 And as you get new people on the board, it's important to have a conversation with 914 00:59:38,929 --> 00:59:42,829 them. People are going to come straight to you. 915 00:59:43,008 --> 00:59:48,858 And unfortunately, nothing like that because you care about what's happening to 916 00:59:48,918 --> 00:59:53,628 their kids. You can express that care, but you certainly have to say, "This is the 917 00:59:53,688 --> 00:59:57,079 fastest way to get it handled." It 918 01:00:01,308 --> 01:00:05,538 sounds like everyone is comfortable with the knowledge of who does what in the 919 01:00:05,598 --> 01:00:08,088 chain of command. It's just a matter of 920 01:00:09,348 --> 01:00:15,228 the few minutes that it takes to share with someone and also make them understand. 921 01:00:16,218 --> 01:00:18,168 Any of this has to come back to me 922 01:00:20,449 --> 01:00:23,118 before the board as judge and jury. 923 01:00:23,959 --> 01:00:25,548 I can't let you share too much- 924 01:00:25,608 --> 01:00:25,848 Right 925 01:00:26,028 --> 01:00:30,408 ... when it's personal. And so it's having that care. 926 01:00:30,498 --> 01:00:35,838 I think you guys understand exactly what needs to happen, but it's just 927 01:00:35,989 --> 01:00:41,568 uncomfortable. And there's also some messaging that you want to get out in the 928 01:00:41,628 --> 01:00:46,668 community about you have to build that trust. 929 01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:52,668 I think as each of you speak it to say the same thing with a good heart because 930 01:00:52,728 --> 01:00:53,748 these are your neighbors. 931 01:00:56,298 --> 01:01:01,938 Catch them in church some days and say, "I hear you." I think 932 01:01:02,028 --> 01:01:07,638 everyone wants to be heard, but you've got to let people know that someone did. 933 01:01:07,938 --> 01:01:11,959 Well, just an example. So Friday night at the football game, we're standing there, 934 01:01:12,048 --> 01:01:15,949 right? And I'm standing beside this lady who I didn't personally know. 935 01:01:16,489 --> 01:01:20,179 My wife's like, "Yeah, that lady's the one that loves to talk about you all the 936 01:01:20,209 --> 01:01:23,778 time on the internet about how terrible you are and this and that." But I'm 937 01:01:23,838 --> 01:01:27,648 standing right beside of her and have never had a personal conversation with her as 938 01:01:27,707 --> 01:01:31,518 a person. So I want to introduce myself and be like, "Hey, this is my wife. 939 01:01:31,579 --> 01:01:34,878 These are my kids. This is who I am." And I think we all feel that way, but 940 01:01:34,968 --> 01:01:36,018 oftentimes it's just-- 941 01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:42,949 A very smart coach told me one time, "You can't reason with unreasonable people at 942 01:01:43,038 --> 01:01:47,538 times." So how do we find that common ground so that they understand we're in this 943 01:01:47,628 --> 01:01:51,199 boat with you, right? We need to be all rowing in the same direction. 944 01:01:51,739 --> 01:01:55,459 And the minute that one person's rowing opposite of all of us, it only slows us 945 01:01:55,518 --> 01:01:57,498 down in the district. And we don't always have to agree. 946 01:01:57,558 --> 01:02:00,618 We don't agree a lot of times with things, but we try to treat each other with 947 01:02:00,648 --> 01:02:01,638 professionalism. 948 01:02:02,929 --> 01:02:04,848 And we've agreed to disagree on things, right? 949 01:02:04,908 --> 01:02:07,459 And we've had strong-spirited debates. 950 01:02:08,028 --> 01:02:11,748 But when we leave, we still treat each other with respect and humans, and we've all 951 01:02:11,808 --> 01:02:13,788 done that and going to try to do a good job of that. 952 01:02:14,209 --> 01:02:19,429 I think what's going to be a wonderful experience is establishing your new 953 01:02:19,518 --> 01:02:24,528 strategic plan. Because you're going to be able to hear 954 01:02:25,308 --> 01:02:28,998 from constituents what their concerns are. 955 01:02:29,449 --> 01:02:30,348 And hopefully, 956 01:02:31,638 --> 01:02:36,018 if you do it as kitchen table conversations where you might be someplace, 957 01:02:37,848 --> 01:02:42,858 not in the forum, but just to hear and talk and let them speak. 958 01:02:43,938 --> 01:02:49,098 McDowell County did this when they had some turmoil out in the community. 959 01:02:49,608 --> 01:02:54,528 And two portions of the community felt like they were not being heard, and the 960 01:02:54,618 --> 01:02:58,338 board had a listening opportunity where they could come and talk. 961 01:02:58,938 --> 01:03:03,918 And I don't know if that people would do that, but if you put yourself out there 962 01:03:03,949 --> 01:03:07,218 and say, "We want to hear what's on your mind," because it sounds like an 963 01:03:07,308 --> 01:03:13,098 opportunity to connect with the community that that needs to happen because you 964 01:03:13,158 --> 01:03:15,258 guys know how to handle complaints. 965 01:03:18,438 --> 01:03:23,748 But it's the opportunity to connect with the community on some meaningful way so 966 01:03:23,808 --> 01:03:29,688 that you can begin to establish trust and get them to see you as well 967 01:03:29,748 --> 01:03:32,568 as you seeing them and hearing them. 968 01:03:32,628 --> 01:03:35,929 So I don't know that this fixes the protocol. It doesn't fix the protocol. 969 01:03:36,018 --> 01:03:41,688 But people use social media to fuss at us. And we're one of five. 970 01:03:41,989 --> 01:03:43,878 I'm one of five people that make this decision. 971 01:03:43,938 --> 01:03:45,558 As you said, it's an arranged marriage. 972 01:03:46,218 --> 01:03:49,038 And so I always say, "Listen, I can't change anything. 973 01:03:49,098 --> 01:03:53,239 There's five of us that have to change it." But we use social media against us. 974 01:03:53,358 --> 01:03:57,829 Why can't we use it for us? I know that's not a protocol situation, but as we go 975 01:03:57,888 --> 01:04:01,728 towards elections and things like that, maybe a simple 976 01:04:03,888 --> 01:04:05,239 description of what- 977 01:04:05,388 --> 01:04:05,388 Yes 978 01:04:05,388 --> 01:04:10,608 ... the school board does, that might be something that would be helpful for our 979 01:04:10,668 --> 01:04:14,628 community to understand that we're here to make policy again. 980 01:04:14,718 --> 01:04:20,658 It's a policy-driven issue instead of necessarily trying to fix 981 01:04:21,408 --> 01:04:24,288 everything in the day-to-day. I think that's something that's 982 01:04:31,638 --> 01:04:35,688 Well, I can't sing Samantha's praises enough, but that's the one thing I will say 983 01:04:35,778 --> 01:04:40,158 is that having her in our social media corner has made some pretty significant 984 01:04:40,218 --> 01:04:45,588 progress in just some of the graphics that she's done have been impressive to me to 985 01:04:45,618 --> 01:04:46,579 be able to show that 986 01:04:50,179 --> 01:04:51,468 she's focused on different communities. 987 01:04:51,528 --> 01:04:56,239 But she's also been able to have something that we've asked for her from a board 988 01:04:56,298 --> 01:05:02,118 brief or from a board meeting to explain certain things and in simple, 989 01:05:02,329 --> 01:05:06,768 easy terms, because some of what we do is really complicated in my opinion. 990 01:05:07,429 --> 01:05:12,438 Yeah, and I love that because I feel like there's a serious lack of knowledge of 991 01:05:12,498 --> 01:05:16,908 what that-- And I can say this from going back before I was on board, I had no idea 992 01:05:16,938 --> 01:05:20,688 what the board does. And so many people in our community have no idea. 993 01:05:20,989 --> 01:05:23,658 They think we are judge and jury- Jury and executioner ... 994 01:05:23,688 --> 01:05:27,618 and come straight to us if you've got a problem, because all those other people are 995 01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:29,239 lame. They don't know what they're doing. 996 01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,518 So they just want to come to the board immediately, but they don't know that's 997 01:05:34,548 --> 01:05:36,858 counterproductive. That's not going to fix their problem. 998 01:05:37,668 --> 01:05:42,079 And if they could see that, and we could put that out, and they could see this is 999 01:05:42,168 --> 01:05:46,368 the chain of command. This is what you do if you have a problem. 1000 01:05:47,058 --> 01:05:49,938 And just make it just clear to the community. 1001 01:05:50,748 --> 01:05:51,949 Is Samantha here? 1002 01:05:52,038 --> 01:05:52,788 No, she's not. 1003 01:05:52,818 --> 01:05:53,118 She's not here. 1004 01:05:53,209 --> 01:05:53,508 I just- 1005 01:05:54,468 --> 01:05:57,048 I was going to say, "Samantha, come up with that brilliant." 1006 01:05:57,108 --> 01:05:57,888 I got a note. 1007 01:05:57,978 --> 01:05:58,818 I got a note, too. 1008 01:05:59,298 --> 01:05:59,329 Yeah. 1009 01:05:59,688 --> 01:06:01,998 I was typing a note and texting it. 1010 01:06:02,058 --> 01:06:02,718 Well, I think- 1011 01:06:03,798 --> 01:06:06,739 But that's a good point because it's not just happening here. 1012 01:06:06,768 --> 01:06:12,648 And people can use social media, be proactive, and 1013 01:06:12,709 --> 01:06:13,008 I think 1014 01:06:14,298 --> 01:06:18,138 this is protocol because we're talking about educating the community. 1015 01:06:18,348 --> 01:06:19,429 I am excited about that. 1016 01:06:19,878 --> 01:06:21,978 Samantha does the positive things. 1017 01:06:22,548 --> 01:06:23,028 Mm-hmm. 1018 01:06:23,028 --> 01:06:25,848 It's always like that, and one of the best things, in my opinion, 1019 01:06:27,258 --> 01:06:31,668 is that it's not an open season for rebuttal. That's not the platform for that. 1020 01:06:31,728 --> 01:06:35,778 It's just good points we're punching into the community, and they don't use that 1021 01:06:35,838 --> 01:06:39,168 like the other Facebook pages to just down us. 1022 01:06:39,558 --> 01:06:39,679 Mm-hmm. 1023 01:06:39,858 --> 01:06:40,699 There's some positive approach. 1024 01:06:40,758 --> 01:06:44,449 Well, the reality is there are thousands of positive things that go on on a daily 1025 01:06:44,478 --> 01:06:48,709 basis across our district. Yeah. And if we're not properly reflecting those out to 1026 01:06:48,768 --> 01:06:53,209 the community, then all they hear and see is the loudest, and it may be a small, 1027 01:06:53,298 --> 01:06:56,179 small portion of people or of the negative that happens. 1028 01:06:56,688 --> 01:07:00,588 And we have 2,700 employees, right? Things are going to happen. 1029 01:07:00,648 --> 01:07:04,728 We have 20,000 students. Bad things are going to happen from time to time. 1030 01:07:04,788 --> 01:07:07,308 That's inevitable. It's any business- 1031 01:07:07,368 --> 01:07:07,818 But there's so much good 1032 01:07:07,878 --> 01:07:10,608 ... Right, but there's so much good that outweighs of that, and I think that's been 1033 01:07:10,668 --> 01:07:14,598 a big thing that adding that position and showing those positive things that are 1034 01:07:14,658 --> 01:07:15,918 going on help 1035 01:07:17,628 --> 01:07:18,588 visualize some of that. 1036 01:07:18,648 --> 01:07:24,048 And I bet you it's going to make a difference. Adding that position is vital. 1037 01:07:24,108 --> 01:07:29,388 We had to get a communications person a couple of years ago because it was like us 1038 01:07:29,478 --> 01:07:35,449 just trying to each do it. The noise is so loud when people want to 1039 01:07:35,449 --> 01:07:36,288 be negative. 1040 01:07:36,348 --> 01:07:36,618 Mm-hmm. 1041 01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:39,318 But I'm so glad you've done that, and 1042 01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:42,709 I'm excited. I know we follow- 1043 01:07:42,768 --> 01:07:47,808 And I think, unfortunately, it used to children education was off limits from a 1044 01:07:47,868 --> 01:07:50,598 political spectrum, right? Whether it be left or right. 1045 01:07:50,658 --> 01:07:55,008 And unfortunately, in today's society, let's go after the most vulnerable to make 1046 01:07:55,068 --> 01:07:59,929 our talking points the loudest, and that's our older folks and our younger folks. 1047 01:07:59,989 --> 01:08:04,579 And so public education, I think, is under attack from both sides because we've had 1048 01:08:04,638 --> 01:08:08,239 it personally, right? We've done things where we've had one direction come after 1049 01:08:08,268 --> 01:08:10,878 us, and we've done things where we've had the other direction come after us. 1050 01:08:11,268 --> 01:08:13,068 And that's just inevitable in what we do. 1051 01:08:14,358 --> 01:08:17,959 But at some point, we have to get back to the baseline value of we're here to keep 1052 01:08:18,018 --> 01:08:22,039 kids safe, make sure they're educated, and set them up for success in that 12-year 1053 01:08:22,068 --> 01:08:23,928 window that we have them in our hands. 1054 01:08:25,489 --> 01:08:30,588 And once you hit those goals, it'll be exciting to say, "This is why we do what we 1055 01:08:30,648 --> 01:08:33,799 do because these are our goals." 1056 01:08:35,838 --> 01:08:41,239 We might have a great idea, but if it's not part of where we're all going, it's 1057 01:08:41,508 --> 01:08:46,039 important. You just tie that language in with what we do. 1058 01:08:47,088 --> 01:08:49,248 And I for what it means to y'all. 1059 01:08:50,418 --> 01:08:53,268 So let's go back to your protocol. We just need make sure we're all kind of clear 1060 01:08:53,268 --> 01:08:57,049 and understanding. So the protocol we said is we're assigning complaints because we 1061 01:08:57,108 --> 01:09:00,228 all feel like we do a pretty good job, but let's just write it down so we know that 1062 01:09:00,289 --> 01:09:03,588 is the protocol. I started the language you all helped me on here. Okay? 1063 01:09:04,098 --> 01:09:07,758 So I feel like for you all for this one, I'd love it be a set where there seems to 1064 01:09:07,789 --> 01:09:10,279 be a sentence or two within that protocol. 1065 01:09:10,338 --> 01:09:14,568 So I'd start to say board member complaint to the appropriate, do you want to say 1066 01:09:14,628 --> 01:09:19,188 staff member? Do you want to say- Member or members Okay, perfect. 1067 01:09:19,248 --> 01:09:23,058 Because sometimes certain issues are a multi-pronged approach, right? 1068 01:09:23,118 --> 01:09:26,299 It's not necessarily one person can give them the answer that they need. 1069 01:09:26,358 --> 01:09:31,518 So there are times when we have to lump in a couple different leaders to help 1070 01:09:31,608 --> 01:09:35,508 answer those questions. And that would be easy win for you all right there. 1071 01:09:35,959 --> 01:09:39,918 So we want to talk about advocating, and that's kind of the extent of it. 1072 01:09:40,188 --> 01:09:42,949 You're just changing it, right? Essentially, it's going to be board member 1073 01:09:43,008 --> 01:09:46,848 complaint to appropriate board member. That's your protocol, right? 1074 01:09:47,358 --> 01:09:49,938 So then what do we do when you think about for violations? 1075 01:09:50,898 --> 01:09:52,579 Now we've had the conversation before too. 1076 01:09:52,638 --> 01:09:56,388 They say that typically they want to be chair designated. 1077 01:09:56,508 --> 01:10:00,049 HR has a conversation with them first, or they might have a personal conversation 1078 01:10:00,138 --> 01:10:02,328 first, right? I'm just going to use a really nice example. 1079 01:10:02,778 --> 01:10:05,058 If I have violated this protocol anyway, right? 1080 01:10:05,148 --> 01:10:08,238 Ramona's going to have a conversation with me because we haven't gone through 1081 01:10:08,299 --> 01:10:12,228 formal charges yet. Right? We kind of have to do it as staff, just a conversation. 1082 01:10:12,768 --> 01:10:14,148 That's going to be on the protocol too. 1083 01:10:14,209 --> 01:10:15,799 It's a regular violation to- 1084 01:10:17,088 --> 01:10:19,818 I thank the chair for consistency. 1085 01:10:20,299 --> 01:10:25,578 I think so. The biggest thing that I will say and share is, for future and 1086 01:10:26,088 --> 01:10:30,168 present myself as well, I never want this to be a situation to where we have these 1087 01:10:30,198 --> 01:10:34,308 protocols and norms that are then used as weaponized against other board members- 1088 01:10:34,608 --> 01:10:34,848 Yeah 1089 01:10:34,848 --> 01:10:39,709 ... to create the illusion of, "Well, you didn't do what I wanted you to do, so 1090 01:10:39,738 --> 01:10:43,038 we're going to use this against you." While you may not be doing anything that 1091 01:10:43,068 --> 01:10:48,768 breaks protocol or norm, it may just be an avenue to use to say, "Fall in line and 1092 01:10:48,828 --> 01:10:51,799 get into..." And that's not necessarily always the case. 1093 01:10:51,888 --> 01:10:56,987 I think when we've had conversations like that, sometimes we've used it in closed 1094 01:10:57,018 --> 01:11:01,668 session just to even just have dialogue. 1095 01:11:01,908 --> 01:11:07,788 Because if I've learned nothing from the chair, it's that I probably need to 1096 01:11:07,818 --> 01:11:12,408 be reminded sometimes that one of the others is having a conversation-- We were 1097 01:11:12,438 --> 01:11:16,308 having a conversation about something that was pointed, and I need that reminder as 1098 01:11:16,368 --> 01:11:21,168 well. And so maybe if we have that conver- I mean, it's always been a gentle 1099 01:11:21,228 --> 01:11:23,118 conversation when we've had that 1100 01:11:24,528 --> 01:11:26,448 in closed session is what I would say. 1101 01:11:26,838 --> 01:11:31,518 So it could be one-on-one, but I also feel like, so that it's not held against 1102 01:11:31,549 --> 01:11:33,948 somebody like it might have been previously, 1103 01:11:35,628 --> 01:11:40,038 a gentle conversation. Again, as Trisha said, we are all adults, and we really do 1104 01:11:40,098 --> 01:11:43,158 treat each other as equal and as 1105 01:11:45,018 --> 01:11:48,828 friends that all don't have the same common ground sometimes. 1106 01:11:48,888 --> 01:11:51,348 But we really do try to understand each other. 1107 01:11:51,438 --> 01:11:56,508 So a gentle conversation from the board chair may be necessary, but also, 1108 01:11:57,528 --> 01:12:01,818 if it's big enough, the gentle conversation in closed session just to make sure 1109 01:12:01,848 --> 01:12:03,258 that we all are on the same page. 1110 01:12:03,378 --> 01:12:05,959 And we can be progressive. So first you are going to say, "Hey, we're just going to 1111 01:12:05,988 --> 01:12:09,618 do a member-member. Just amongst ourselves, we're going to just have that chat, 1112 01:12:09,738 --> 01:12:13,698 right? We're going to have a chat about it." Then you want to progress it to chair 1113 01:12:13,758 --> 01:12:14,299 designee. 1114 01:12:15,049 --> 01:12:18,318 I would say or designee because there may be times when that communication isn't 1115 01:12:18,348 --> 01:12:22,368 productive between the chair and some, so it may need to be the vice chair or vice 1116 01:12:22,549 --> 01:12:25,938 versa. Well, I think with this board, this has never been an issue. Yeah. 1117 01:12:25,998 --> 01:12:30,108 We are always able to talk, but I know going forward, there will be different 1118 01:12:30,168 --> 01:12:32,928 boards. So it's going to be fluid 1119 01:12:34,188 --> 01:12:38,808 maybe in the future. But right now, I don't see a need to put something down like 1120 01:12:38,868 --> 01:12:44,058 that to change or put something, I don't know, just make a hard, fast rule. 1121 01:12:44,418 --> 01:12:47,238 You don't need this, Bridget, but we're going to have some things to kind of like 1122 01:12:47,328 --> 01:12:50,688 roll into the first round. At least we understand first round, we're going to have 1123 01:12:50,688 --> 01:12:52,248 a different type of conversation. Here's violation. 1124 01:12:52,638 --> 01:12:55,008 Then we're going to have chair designee go through this program. 1125 01:12:55,338 --> 01:12:58,459 Then we'll bring it to the full board in closed session, and something like that 1126 01:12:58,518 --> 01:12:59,268 can sound. 1127 01:12:59,358 --> 01:12:59,478 Yeah. 1128 01:12:59,928 --> 01:13:03,108 This round sets you up for success with that parallel communication. 1129 01:13:03,678 --> 01:13:06,348 I'm also going to give it to you. This is like- 1130 01:13:06,348 --> 01:13:06,378 Right. 1131 01:13:06,378 --> 01:13:11,448 This is not- So your policies are first, and then your protocols, which will run by 1132 01:13:11,508 --> 01:13:15,709 your board attorney to make sure everything is on the up and up, 1133 01:13:17,058 --> 01:13:22,488 is the next step down. It's just a practical guide to help you 1134 01:13:23,148 --> 01:13:28,968 keep any little break from happening in there, so that you're always focused on 1135 01:13:28,968 --> 01:13:29,418 the student. 1136 01:13:29,688 --> 01:13:32,628 To me, it sounds essentially like you're putting common sense on paper. 1137 01:13:33,738 --> 01:13:36,918 Okay. Yes. I was going to say that at one point, but I said- 1138 01:13:37,068 --> 01:13:37,698 Calm me, I'm not 1139 01:13:46,293 --> 01:13:50,253 Can change them in a minute, especially you, Chair. 1140 01:13:50,463 --> 01:13:50,613 Sure. 1141 01:13:50,674 --> 01:13:53,523 Somebody might stand up and be like, "Hey, we need to do this. 1142 01:13:53,553 --> 01:13:57,063 This is a reminder for everyone what our kind of-" 1143 01:13:57,123 --> 01:13:57,273 Sure 1144 01:13:57,303 --> 01:13:59,223 ... we've got. We only have so much. 1145 01:14:02,913 --> 01:14:04,983 So it's just a simple conversation. 1146 01:14:05,043 --> 01:14:05,133 Mm-hmm. 1147 01:14:05,163 --> 01:14:08,763 But it's a conversation that you need to have, and I would encourage you to 1148 01:14:08,823 --> 01:14:14,674 continue to have them as you move towards election season, and knowing 1149 01:14:14,703 --> 01:14:17,853 that some of us that don't have new persons, a lot of new persons, changes the 1150 01:14:17,883 --> 01:14:23,343 whole dynamic. And hopefully, it won't be of too much of a different change, but we 1151 01:14:23,433 --> 01:14:29,223 want to ensure that you're protecting the culture and the processes that 1152 01:14:29,283 --> 01:14:30,993 you've already got in place. 1153 01:14:32,493 --> 01:14:35,253 That process generally makes sense, because the last thing on our sheet is just to 1154 01:14:35,282 --> 01:14:39,153 check in with our attorney, make sure they're not hiding anything, and then to say 1155 01:14:39,213 --> 01:14:42,723 that we are voting on it. We're going to do ideally two to three months to discuss 1156 01:14:42,783 --> 01:14:44,793 it on. Ideally, we want a year. 1157 01:14:45,123 --> 01:14:45,393 Yeah. 1158 01:14:46,053 --> 01:14:46,053 Or at least- 1159 01:14:46,053 --> 01:14:49,233 Well, we just go back to that conversation and looking at it- 1160 01:14:49,233 --> 01:14:49,233 Yeah 1161 01:14:49,233 --> 01:14:50,373 ... and making sure we don't- 1162 01:14:51,153 --> 01:14:56,223 I think once a year is a good standard to set for us as the board transitions, 1163 01:14:56,283 --> 01:14:57,963 people come on, people go off. 1164 01:14:58,353 --> 01:14:58,383 Mm-hmm. 1165 01:14:58,443 --> 01:15:01,593 Just a refresher, even if the board stays the same, it never hurts to have, and 1166 01:15:01,683 --> 01:15:03,123 things change over time, right? 1167 01:15:03,633 --> 01:15:03,843 They do. 1168 01:15:03,903 --> 01:15:04,053 So. 1169 01:15:04,323 --> 01:15:07,863 They do evolve. But ultimately, that's the protocol. 1170 01:15:07,953 --> 01:15:10,593 You should have been having a short conversation where we talk about some things, 1171 01:15:10,773 --> 01:15:15,813 reference and stuff. We say, "Hey, it's real simple, ABC," and that's it. 1172 01:15:15,903 --> 01:15:18,513 That's protocol. Great. Yeah. Good job. 1173 01:15:18,963 --> 01:15:19,233 Good job. 1174 01:15:19,293 --> 01:15:20,463 Thank you. 1175 01:15:20,523 --> 01:15:24,332 And we're not even going to keep you long, so we're done. 1176 01:15:25,323 --> 01:15:28,053 Hopefully, we'll see you at the follow-up conference or- 1177 01:15:28,413 --> 01:15:28,983 The national 1178 01:15:29,433 --> 01:15:33,093 ... or at annual conference. Hope you'll be there. 1179 01:15:34,293 --> 01:15:36,663 Be heard, let your voice be well heard. 1180 01:15:36,753 --> 01:15:40,834 And then we're going to have more training for the board members in December in 1181 01:15:40,893 --> 01:15:42,963 Raleigh, on the 7th, 10th, and 1182 01:15:45,153 --> 01:15:50,793 11th. We'll be doing it in January, on January 14th and 15th in Raleigh, and then 1183 01:15:50,853 --> 01:15:54,033 we're going to do it for 2025 and 2026 in Asheville. 1184 01:15:55,113 --> 01:16:00,213 It's a free member benefit. It's a day and a half session where we go over the 1185 01:16:00,273 --> 01:16:06,243 basics. We'll say some of the same things that hopefully anyone who's 1186 01:16:06,273 --> 01:16:11,853 newly elected can come and we'll be good, and we say a lot of the same 1187 01:16:11,973 --> 01:16:15,903 things, and hopefully we keep you on a great board with each other. 1188 01:16:17,043 --> 01:16:19,263 It's a phenomenal class, and I love seeing 1189 01:16:20,613 --> 01:16:24,543 how well everyone's doing together. 1190 01:16:24,963 --> 01:16:27,543 Are there any questions or comments? 1191 01:16:27,573 --> 01:16:30,993 So you've got half of them gone. You need to leave. 1192 01:16:32,853 --> 01:16:34,053 Is it good? 1193 01:16:34,113 --> 01:16:35,013 You can have the same- 1194 01:16:35,163 --> 01:16:35,763 We got you 1195 01:16:35,763 --> 01:16:39,393 ... students in other places use telephones and- 1196 01:16:39,393 --> 01:16:44,283 I know 1197 01:16:44,283 --> 01:16:46,443 ... it runs under protocol work, though. 1198 01:16:46,473 --> 01:16:50,674 That makes the general process make sense, kind of how we roll with that on a deal 1199 01:16:50,733 --> 01:16:51,363 again. 1200 01:16:51,483 --> 01:16:55,203 Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for sharing with us, Ms. Allison, today. 1201 01:16:55,323 --> 01:16:56,703 We really appreciate it. It's always- 1202 01:16:56,793 --> 01:16:56,853 Thank you 1203 01:16:56,943 --> 01:16:58,834 ... a good refresher. Thank you for the stickers. 1204 01:17:00,602 --> 01:17:00,782 Yeah. 1205 01:17:01,263 --> 01:17:01,352 Yeah. 1206 01:17:01,383 --> 01:17:04,233 Well, thank you, and we'll talk about all this with each other. 1207 01:17:04,293 --> 01:17:06,873 Thank you so much. Thank you, guys. Thank you. 1208 01:17:08,643 --> 01:17:09,513 Which company are your stickers? 1209 01:17:11,313 --> 01:17:14,493 Which company are your stickers? Oh. 1210 01:17:14,553 --> 01:17:15,993 Curriculum, Dr. Coley? 1211 01:17:25,803 --> 01:17:31,503 I have to say, I felt like I needed to get my phone to take pictures because 1212 01:17:31,593 --> 01:17:36,663 anytime I attend professional learning, I'm always taking pictures so that I can 1213 01:17:36,723 --> 01:17:39,663 share that out. So I felt like I needed to take pictures over there. 1214 01:17:39,723 --> 01:17:39,783 Mm-hmm. 1215 01:17:40,713 --> 01:17:44,613 Great professional learning opportunity. Good evening, Mr. 1216 01:17:44,913 --> 01:17:45,363 Chairman- 1217 01:17:45,363 --> 01:17:45,393 Good evening 1218 01:17:45,424 --> 01:17:47,343 ... Madam Vice Chair, board members. 1219 01:17:47,763 --> 01:17:52,834 I'm really excited this evening to start out in the area of curriculum instruction, 1220 01:17:52,924 --> 01:17:56,463 giving an EC program support update. 1221 01:17:57,363 --> 01:18:03,093 I have asked our EC directors, Susan Russell and Jordan Lupton, to come this 1222 01:18:03,213 --> 01:18:08,883 evening and share with the board, provide a brief overview of our focus this 1223 01:18:09,003 --> 01:18:12,903 year for support in the Exceptional Children's program. 1224 01:18:13,834 --> 01:18:19,593 We have two lenses, one of compliance, so that we are following the law and 1225 01:18:19,683 --> 01:18:25,383 that we are receiving good scores when we are assessed by our indicators, 1226 01:18:25,893 --> 01:18:30,243 and two, we need that instructional focus, because as you know, I've stood before 1227 01:18:30,363 --> 01:18:36,033 you on many occasions talking about schools that are designated as targeted support 1228 01:18:36,093 --> 01:18:40,263 for improvement based upon the subgroup students with disabilities. 1229 01:18:40,563 --> 01:18:44,643 So I'm really excited this evening to have Mrs. Russell and Ms. Lupton here. 1230 01:18:45,123 --> 01:18:50,013 I'm going to turn it over to them, and in your packet, you will have the documents 1231 01:18:50,073 --> 01:18:52,443 that they are going to be providing an overview for. 1232 01:18:52,953 --> 01:18:58,143 Susan? 1233 01:18:58,233 --> 01:19:02,674 Good evening, board members. This evening, I am pleased to present our Exceptional 1234 01:19:02,763 --> 01:19:07,563 Children's compliance support plan for the 26-27 school year. 1235 01:19:08,313 --> 01:19:11,883 Our primary focus with this framework is pretty simple. 1236 01:19:12,303 --> 01:19:17,283 It's to establish a structured framework to maintain legal compliance, 1237 01:19:18,093 --> 01:19:23,283 reduce non-compliance risk, and provide differentiated support to our special 1238 01:19:23,343 --> 01:19:26,943 education teachers in this specific area. 1239 01:19:27,663 --> 01:19:32,763 To drive this work, we have established a dedicated team of EC compliance coaches 1240 01:19:33,543 --> 01:19:37,473 that we have structured across our grade levels as well as our specialized 1241 01:19:37,533 --> 01:19:43,023 programs. Together, this team ensures that every 1242 01:19:43,084 --> 01:19:49,023 building and specialty area has direct oversight and 1243 01:19:49,143 --> 01:19:55,084 a go-to compliance expert. This framework establishes a clear understanding 1244 01:19:55,143 --> 01:20:00,033 of the roles and the responsibilities of both the district staff as well as our 1245 01:20:00,123 --> 01:20:01,773 classroom EC teachers. 1246 01:20:04,084 --> 01:20:09,334 When looking specifically at our classroom teachers, they are going to retain 1247 01:20:09,424 --> 01:20:13,323 primary responsibility for completing the paperwork for the students that they 1248 01:20:13,413 --> 01:20:19,262 serve on a daily basis, maintaining compliance timelines, using 1249 01:20:19,353 --> 01:20:24,063 our tracking systems, and then leading those IEP meetings, those conversations 1250 01:20:24,153 --> 01:20:25,893 about the students that they work with. 1251 01:20:26,523 --> 01:20:32,193 Our compliance coaches, they act more of a risk mitigation 1252 01:20:32,283 --> 01:20:38,193 team. They audit documentation, coach our staff, monitor timelines, 1253 01:20:38,283 --> 01:20:43,473 and proactively identify those risks to prevent non-compliance before it ever 1254 01:20:43,503 --> 01:20:49,293 happens. Looking a little more at this framework, we know that not every 1255 01:20:49,383 --> 01:20:52,593 teacher requires the same level of oversight. 1256 01:20:53,043 --> 01:20:58,893 So to maximize our efficiency, we are implementing a three-tiered differentiated 1257 01:20:59,103 --> 01:20:59,913 support model. 1258 01:21:01,683 --> 01:21:06,663 To begin with that, looking at a universal lens, all of our teachers have multiple 1259 01:21:06,753 --> 01:21:12,573 opportunities to receive compliance training within our ECATS, our Every 1260 01:21:12,603 --> 01:21:17,793 Child Accountability Tracking System, where that is where we house all of our EC 1261 01:21:17,853 --> 01:21:18,813 documentation, 1262 01:21:20,703 --> 01:21:26,433 as well as how to not only fill in blanks within that platform, but also to make 1263 01:21:26,463 --> 01:21:30,573 sure what they're putting in there is compliant and relevant towards the students. 1264 01:21:31,263 --> 01:21:36,903 We have an EC hub in Google that was created last year, where 1265 01:21:36,993 --> 01:21:42,873 standardized meeting checklists, some sentence starters for specific documents, and 1266 01:21:43,053 --> 01:21:47,433 access to previously recorded trainings is available at just the click of a button 1267 01:21:47,463 --> 01:21:48,723 for any of our staff. 1268 01:21:50,584 --> 01:21:55,563 I also meet with our new EC teachers on a monthly basis to help 1269 01:21:55,623 --> 01:22:01,174 them to navigate the ECATS system and developing compliant 1270 01:22:01,263 --> 01:22:02,073 documents. 1271 01:22:03,363 --> 01:22:07,983 For some of our upcoming workdays, we have designated compliance labs where 1272 01:22:08,043 --> 01:22:11,853 teachers can select to go to small trainings and 1273 01:22:13,503 --> 01:22:18,213 learn more about specific documents within the IEP platform. 1274 01:22:18,843 --> 01:22:24,153 And then also, we are currently working to offer monthly after-school trainings. 1275 01:22:24,573 --> 01:22:30,303 Again, looking at specific documents is on a voluntary basis, and kind of seeing 1276 01:22:30,363 --> 01:22:34,683 what kind of interest we have to begin with to see if we need to expand that to 1277 01:22:34,713 --> 01:22:40,263 maybe twice a month. But looking to begin that very soon on a monthly basis for any 1278 01:22:40,323 --> 01:22:42,003 and all of our teachers interested. 1279 01:22:43,174 --> 01:22:48,993 So when looking at the tier support that we have, the first tier is tier three, and 1280 01:22:49,023 --> 01:22:51,513 that is for our teachers who need intensive support, 1281 01:22:52,803 --> 01:22:56,163 possibly new teachers, but not always necessarily- 1282 01:22:57,963 --> 01:23:02,403 But those are ones that have been identified either from our coaches, our 1283 01:23:02,433 --> 01:23:07,353 administrators, as well as we also ask our teachers to self-identify themselves as 1284 01:23:07,413 --> 01:23:09,692 where they felt their comfort levels were. 1285 01:23:10,503 --> 01:23:16,263 And, so those that we identify as Tier 3 will be 1286 01:23:16,293 --> 01:23:22,263 receiving weekly coaching from our compliance coaches, and they will 1287 01:23:22,353 --> 01:23:27,783 also have their paperworks pre-audited before a meeting, and the opportunity to 1288 01:23:27,933 --> 01:23:32,313 lead and co-lead meetings with our coaches. 1289 01:23:32,343 --> 01:23:38,073 And then the goal is for our coaches to gradually fade that support 1290 01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:44,013 as competence is demonstrated. Our second tier, and what we consider moderate 1291 01:23:44,073 --> 01:23:48,603 support, these are for our experienced teachers who maybe just need some refining 1292 01:23:48,663 --> 01:23:49,743 of their practices. 1293 01:23:51,453 --> 01:23:57,153 And so their documents, one of those will be pre-audited, and then 1294 01:23:57,213 --> 01:24:02,823 again, gives time for those conversations with the compliance coaches to show that 1295 01:24:02,853 --> 01:24:07,713 the teachers can demonstrate mastery on those, and then they transition into more 1296 01:24:07,803 --> 01:24:12,963 of an independent practice. And they'll be supported bi-monthly with 1297 01:24:13,023 --> 01:24:18,093 check-ins as well as any pre-audits that they may request, especially if they have 1298 01:24:18,153 --> 01:24:22,593 a complex meeting coming up and they want our coaches to look over those. 1299 01:24:23,853 --> 01:24:27,873 And then our final tier is Tier 1, and that is our universal support. 1300 01:24:28,683 --> 01:24:33,093 And that's for our consistent high-performing teachers who already know how to 1301 01:24:33,183 --> 01:24:38,703 operate independently, and they will have quarterly spot checks, as well as 1302 01:24:38,793 --> 01:24:41,853 monthly meetings with our EC chairs at each school. 1303 01:24:42,363 --> 01:24:47,674 And then, of course, access to all of our resources and have that flexibility to 1304 01:24:47,733 --> 01:24:52,653 reach out to our coaches or any of the district staff whenever they need some 1305 01:24:52,743 --> 01:24:54,183 specific support as well. 1306 01:24:55,563 --> 01:25:00,003 Another central pillar of this accountability instruction is the pre-audit 1307 01:25:00,063 --> 01:25:05,973 protocol, and so we have asked that for any documents 1308 01:25:06,003 --> 01:25:10,233 that need to be pre-audited, that teachers get those to our compliance coaches at 1309 01:25:10,263 --> 01:25:12,213 least five days prior to the meeting. 1310 01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:16,713 And then that gives our coaches an opportunity to look over those, to give 1311 01:25:16,773 --> 01:25:20,403 suggestions or things that may need to be adjusted, 1312 01:25:21,633 --> 01:25:25,893 to get those back to the teachers. And then if conversations need to be had on how 1313 01:25:25,953 --> 01:25:29,133 to move forward with that, they're also given that opportunity. 1314 01:25:30,123 --> 01:25:34,413 This workflow gives a clear window to correct errors before sitting down with 1315 01:25:34,503 --> 01:25:40,174 parents and ask questions of their coach, ensuring that meetings are professional, 1316 01:25:40,593 --> 01:25:46,233 legally sound, and smooth. Accountability is paired directly with data 1317 01:25:46,293 --> 01:25:50,853 monitoring. Our monitoring and accountability coordinator maintains a district 1318 01:25:50,943 --> 01:25:56,223 dashboard tracking timeline, which looks at our different indicators as well as 1319 01:25:56,343 --> 01:26:02,163 upcoming dates for IEPs, reevaluations, behavior intervention plans, et cetera, 1320 01:26:03,933 --> 01:26:09,183 alongside of error categories. And then this is shared monthly with our compliance 1321 01:26:09,243 --> 01:26:13,563 coaches, who then shares that out to the principals and the EC chairs at the 1322 01:26:13,623 --> 01:26:18,963 schools. This plan provides a proactive, systematic, and compassionate framework 1323 01:26:19,023 --> 01:26:23,703 that supports our teachers, protects our district from non-compliance risks, and 1324 01:26:23,733 --> 01:26:29,103 most importantly, ensures our exceptional children receive the quality services and 1325 01:26:29,163 --> 01:26:31,263 legally binding supports they deserve. 1326 01:26:32,133 --> 01:26:36,633 Thank you for your time and continued support of our EC department, and I'm happy 1327 01:26:36,693 --> 01:26:40,023 to open the floor to any questions concerning our compliance. 1328 01:26:43,053 --> 01:26:44,193 How did you choose your coaches? 1329 01:26:44,703 --> 01:26:45,093 I'm sorry? 1330 01:26:45,183 --> 01:26:46,713 How did you choose your different coaches? 1331 01:26:47,043 --> 01:26:51,603 So we actually worked together as a team. We worked with Dr. 1332 01:26:51,663 --> 01:26:57,243 Coley and then Jordan and myself, and we looked as to the qualification of our 1333 01:26:57,334 --> 01:27:01,743 current, because previously we had larger numbers of compliance coaches. 1334 01:27:02,433 --> 01:27:07,473 And we've been moving this needle, this is going into the third year, so this is 1335 01:27:07,503 --> 01:27:11,493 the biggest shift. But we've started shifting that throughout the past two years, 1336 01:27:11,943 --> 01:27:15,513 and we really looked at, when Jordan gets up here, she'll talk about our 1337 01:27:15,543 --> 01:27:19,983 instructional coaches. And so we took our current coaches, and then we looked to 1338 01:27:20,073 --> 01:27:24,543 see those that were stronger in our compliance area, those that had those strong 1339 01:27:24,603 --> 01:27:29,433 instructional backgrounds or those strong EC knowledge paperwork backgrounds, and 1340 01:27:29,433 --> 01:27:34,293 then we chose them from those places. 1341 01:27:34,383 --> 01:27:35,523 I have a question. 1342 01:27:35,584 --> 01:27:35,584 Yes. 1343 01:27:35,643 --> 01:27:40,143 So a lot of this that you spoke on is about teacher education, right? 1344 01:27:40,233 --> 01:27:43,023 Educating teachers, making sure they're staying compliant, making sure they're 1345 01:27:43,084 --> 01:27:44,613 doing the things that need to be done. 1346 01:27:45,033 --> 01:27:45,033 Mm-hmm. 1347 01:27:45,033 --> 01:27:50,943 But a lot of times when we get issues brought to our level, it's oftentimes not the 1348 01:27:51,003 --> 01:27:55,293 teacher, it's the communication between the teacher or at the lowest level up 1349 01:27:55,353 --> 01:27:57,993 through that middle, what I would consider middle management. 1350 01:27:58,023 --> 01:27:58,084 Mm-hmm. 1351 01:27:58,113 --> 01:28:01,174 So your counselors, maybe it's your instructional coach. 1352 01:28:01,803 --> 01:28:05,523 What type of training are we doing to make sure that the communication is flowing 1353 01:28:05,584 --> 01:28:09,063 from not only the top down, but from the bottom up, right? 1354 01:28:09,123 --> 01:28:13,623 Because I think one thing that we hear a lot from the EC is that our staff, maybe 1355 01:28:13,683 --> 01:28:17,763 our teachers, feel supported, but they maybe don't feel heard. 1356 01:28:18,183 --> 01:28:18,243 Right. 1357 01:28:18,273 --> 01:28:19,653 And I think there's a difference, right? 1358 01:28:19,683 --> 01:28:19,683 Right. 1359 01:28:19,743 --> 01:28:23,973 I think being supportive and giving them the tools they need, but the day-to-day 1360 01:28:24,063 --> 01:28:26,853 concerns and struggles, I mean, it's grown, right? 1361 01:28:26,943 --> 01:28:30,783 I mean, let's look at EC arena, talking about 10 years ago, what we would say to 1362 01:28:30,813 --> 01:28:35,043 ourselves. Think back 10, 15 years ago, what EC looked like and what it is now, 1363 01:28:35,163 --> 01:28:38,793 right? It's probably the fastest-growing area in our school system. 1364 01:28:38,853 --> 01:28:43,174 And so I just want to understand, I mean, I think this is a great plan for our 1365 01:28:43,233 --> 01:28:47,133 teachers, but I would like to also understand how we're making sure that that 1366 01:28:47,223 --> 01:28:51,963 middle-level folks, our guidance counselors, the ones that are making sure those 1367 01:28:52,053 --> 01:28:55,413 I's are dotted, that it's being properly pushed down to them as well. 1368 01:28:55,473 --> 01:28:57,903 Sure. So when talking specifically about our coaches- 1369 01:28:57,963 --> 01:28:59,223 Principals and stuff like that. 1370 01:28:59,283 --> 01:29:05,163 Yes. So when looking specifically at our coaches, we are actually doing a monthly, 1371 01:29:05,433 --> 01:29:07,233 we meet monthly with our leadership staff. 1372 01:29:07,743 --> 01:29:13,563 And we are doing some coaching professional development with our district-level 1373 01:29:13,623 --> 01:29:19,053 staff, to help them understand the difference between coaching and just talking at 1374 01:29:19,113 --> 01:29:24,033 people. But having that empathy and understanding, allowing folks to ask questions, 1375 01:29:24,093 --> 01:29:25,743 and then they ask questions as well. 1376 01:29:27,302 --> 01:29:28,023 We have really 1377 01:29:29,493 --> 01:29:35,433 put it aside for ourselves this year to get ourselves more into schools and assist. 1378 01:29:35,493 --> 01:29:37,413 We have an open line of communication. 1379 01:29:37,473 --> 01:29:41,223 Even though we have that chain of command, so to speak, we do have that open line 1380 01:29:41,253 --> 01:29:44,913 of communication, which is one of the main reasons I wanted to take our group of 1381 01:29:44,973 --> 01:29:50,013 new EC teachers. I wanted to go ahead and build that foundation 1382 01:29:51,003 --> 01:29:51,783 at our level. 1383 01:29:53,553 --> 01:29:57,993 Also, as far as principals go, we meet at the K12 meetings. 1384 01:29:58,084 --> 01:30:00,273 We try to do some type of presentation each month. 1385 01:30:00,663 --> 01:30:04,203 Jordan's currently working on compliance about the different indicators. 1386 01:30:04,863 --> 01:30:08,674 And then, we look at just different pieces of information. 1387 01:30:08,733 --> 01:30:13,834 This past month, I did training on seclusion and restraints, as that's required for 1388 01:30:14,373 --> 01:30:20,193 anyone to do each year. And so we're trying to get out 1389 01:30:20,283 --> 01:30:23,553 anywhere and everywhere, and I say we, I mean our department. 1390 01:30:23,584 --> 01:30:23,913 Mm. 1391 01:30:23,973 --> 01:30:29,643 So if it's staff meetings, PLCs, level with principals meetings, K12 1392 01:30:29,703 --> 01:30:34,924 meetings, anywhere that we can get out and show that, "Hey, we are here to support. 1393 01:30:35,193 --> 01:30:38,733 We hear you, and we want to be a part of what's going on." 1394 01:30:39,693 --> 01:30:41,763 Absolutely. I'll just add to that, too. 1395 01:30:41,823 --> 01:30:44,823 To your point, EC doesn't operate in a silo. 1396 01:30:44,883 --> 01:30:44,883 Mm. 1397 01:30:44,883 --> 01:30:47,463 And we've talked about this a lot as a curriculum team. 1398 01:30:48,093 --> 01:30:52,683 And so we are noticing and learning all the different people who need EC 1399 01:30:52,713 --> 01:30:55,593 information that we may not automatically think about. 1400 01:30:55,653 --> 01:30:59,973 For example, we have a monthly newsletter that we send out that has grown in terms 1401 01:31:00,033 --> 01:31:02,373 of the number of people who want that monthly newsletter, right? 1402 01:31:02,403 --> 01:31:02,433 Right. 1403 01:31:02,463 --> 01:31:05,283 Because to your point, our counselors also need that information. 1404 01:31:05,343 --> 01:31:08,584 Our instructional coaches on the gen ed side want that information. 1405 01:31:08,943 --> 01:31:12,213 So we are trying to broaden and really make sure that we are giving that 1406 01:31:12,273 --> 01:31:14,043 communication to everyone who needs it. 1407 01:31:14,763 --> 01:31:16,084 That's great. Thank you. Yeah. 1408 01:31:17,584 --> 01:31:18,033 And this one- 1409 01:31:18,303 --> 01:31:18,933 Oh, go ahead. 1410 01:31:19,113 --> 01:31:24,393 I'm sorry. Just one, not a question, maybe just a recommendation or for the group 1411 01:31:24,453 --> 01:31:27,424 to consider. I mean, I would like to see the compliance data. 1412 01:31:27,483 --> 01:31:31,563 I don't see where the board is mentioned and that being shared with the board, but 1413 01:31:31,623 --> 01:31:33,963 I would think we would want to see that at least twice a year. 1414 01:31:34,053 --> 01:31:34,503 Absolutely. 1415 01:31:34,563 --> 01:31:36,723 So we would know where we're at. But that's not- 1416 01:31:37,233 --> 01:31:40,834 No, that's not a problem at all. And again, we look at that every month. 1417 01:31:40,924 --> 01:31:41,073 Right. 1418 01:31:41,133 --> 01:31:46,563 And our monitoring and compliance and accountability coordinator, that's what she 1419 01:31:46,593 --> 01:31:48,033 does on a daily basis. 1420 01:31:48,093 --> 01:31:49,773 I'm very excited for your dashboard. 1421 01:31:50,223 --> 01:31:50,553 Yes. 1422 01:31:50,643 --> 01:31:50,853 Yeah. 1423 01:31:51,153 --> 01:31:53,643 It's a lot, but it's good. 1424 01:31:53,763 --> 01:31:53,883 Yeah. 1425 01:31:53,883 --> 01:31:53,883 Yeah. 1426 01:31:53,943 --> 01:31:54,783 Thank you. 1427 01:31:54,843 --> 01:31:57,933 And if we could get emailed that newsletter also, I would love to see that. 1428 01:31:58,023 --> 01:32:01,713 Yeah, I think including the board, absolutely, 1,000% moving forward. 1429 01:32:01,983 --> 01:32:03,243 Add a couple more to that list. 1430 01:32:04,593 --> 01:32:05,163 Sure, absolutely. 1431 01:32:07,269 --> 01:32:09,729 Mine was a simple question, because I don't quite understand. 1432 01:32:10,599 --> 01:32:13,629 It said, "Maintain the compliance and timelines and document the compliance 1433 01:32:13,660 --> 01:32:16,749 tracker." Are you two managing the compliance tracker? 1434 01:32:16,809 --> 01:32:20,829 Who's managing the compliance trackers apart from the EC coaches? 1435 01:32:20,949 --> 01:32:24,189 I want to make sure that it's not just hitting the coaches, that you guys are 1436 01:32:24,249 --> 01:32:25,809 actually looking at it physically as well. 1437 01:32:25,989 --> 01:32:30,428 Absolutely. So, as I mentioned in there, our compliance and accountability 1438 01:32:30,789 --> 01:32:35,259 coordinator is seeing that overall, and then we meet with her. 1439 01:32:35,349 --> 01:32:35,679 Okay. 1440 01:32:36,069 --> 01:32:40,359 And then also, I meet monthly with the compliance coaches, and she's in that 1441 01:32:40,419 --> 01:32:41,289 meeting as well. 1442 01:32:41,799 --> 01:32:42,279 Okay. 1443 01:32:42,309 --> 01:32:42,459 The 1444 01:32:43,779 --> 01:32:48,459 three of us usually meet weekly, and we just cover a gamut of things, and 1445 01:32:48,489 --> 01:32:53,139 compliance is definitely something that we're always looking at, because indicators 1446 01:32:53,410 --> 01:32:56,859 come due all throughout the year, and so we want to make sure we're on top of that. 1447 01:32:56,919 --> 01:32:59,979 But yes, ma'am, we have access, and we look at those as 1448 01:33:02,410 --> 01:33:02,529 well. 1449 01:33:02,620 --> 01:33:03,039 Thank you. 1450 01:33:07,239 --> 01:33:08,709 Any other questions for compliance? 1451 01:33:08,859 --> 01:33:09,399 If not- 1452 01:33:09,849 --> 01:33:11,139 Ms. Evans. 1453 01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:16,719 Good evening. I'm pleased to share with you our 2026/2027 Instructional Support 1454 01:33:16,779 --> 01:33:20,889 Plan for Exceptional Children, and the work that we're doing to really strengthen 1455 01:33:20,949 --> 01:33:23,949 the instruction for students with disabilities. You all have seen our data. 1456 01:33:24,279 --> 01:33:27,189 You know that we have some work to do in this area. 1457 01:33:27,849 --> 01:33:31,719 And I loved hearing your future headlines a minute ago, because I'm hopeful that 1458 01:33:31,809 --> 01:33:33,699 this plan is going to get us there. 1459 01:33:35,379 --> 01:33:39,160 We are intentionally asking a bigger question as a department this year, which is 1460 01:33:39,279 --> 01:33:43,569 what does high-quality, specially designed instruction look like in our classrooms 1461 01:33:43,628 --> 01:33:46,689 for our EC students, and how do we know if it's making a difference? 1462 01:33:47,079 --> 01:33:49,269 And so that is really the foundation of this plan. 1463 01:33:50,469 --> 01:33:54,669 Similarly to our compliance plan, at the center of our plan are these EC 1464 01:33:54,729 --> 01:33:59,499 instructional coaches. One of the most significant shifts we did make this year was 1465 01:33:59,559 --> 01:34:03,339 within that leadership structure, as Susan mentioned, where we intentionally moved 1466 01:34:03,399 --> 01:34:07,809 some of those positions into instructional coaching roles. 1467 01:34:08,559 --> 01:34:12,399 So compliance remains critically important, but we also are recognizing that our 1468 01:34:12,489 --> 01:34:14,379 schools need instructional support. 1469 01:34:15,039 --> 01:34:19,509 We need that ongoing instructional support so that we can improve the quality of 1470 01:34:19,539 --> 01:34:25,419 instruction for our students. Our coaches bring many years of experience 1471 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:29,079 working with students with disabilities, and they understand the needs of our 1472 01:34:29,139 --> 01:34:33,309 students, and the realities that our teachers face in the classroom every day 1473 01:34:33,370 --> 01:34:34,329 because they've lived it. 1474 01:34:35,559 --> 01:34:39,939 So our work in this plan you'll see is organized around four essential priorities. 1475 01:34:40,359 --> 01:34:44,259 The first one is high-quality, specially designed instruction. 1476 01:34:44,859 --> 01:34:50,019 We saw that we needed to clearly define what specially designed instruction is, 1477 01:34:50,349 --> 01:34:54,339 what it looks like, and what we would expect to see in our classrooms across the 1478 01:34:54,399 --> 01:34:59,559 district. We know that it needs to align to IEP goals and student needs, and also 1479 01:34:59,620 --> 01:35:03,789 to grade level standards, but it also needs to be well-planned, it needs to be very 1480 01:35:03,819 --> 01:35:06,489 intentional, and it needs to include progress monitoring. 1481 01:35:06,939 --> 01:35:10,239 We have to have evidence of how our students are responding to instruction. 1482 01:35:11,379 --> 01:35:15,939 We have also identified specific instructional practices and programs for the 1483 01:35:15,999 --> 01:35:21,189 different settings. In our resource classrooms, that would include the use of our 1484 01:35:21,249 --> 01:35:24,009 district-approved intervention programs with fidelity. 1485 01:35:24,669 --> 01:35:28,660 In our co-teaching classrooms, we're emphasizing the parallel teaching, station 1486 01:35:28,719 --> 01:35:32,499 teaching, alternative teaching models, because those are the models that create 1487 01:35:32,529 --> 01:35:36,039 those meaningful opportunities for specially designed instruction within the 1488 01:35:36,069 --> 01:35:37,359 general education environment. 1489 01:35:38,679 --> 01:35:42,429 The second priority that you'll see in the plan is effective service delivery. 1490 01:35:42,699 --> 01:35:47,589 So we want to move beyond simply asking, "Are we providing the service? Check. 1491 01:35:47,679 --> 01:35:51,969 Yes." No. We want to actually ask what does that service look like? 1492 01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:56,799 And so for co-teaching, we want to see that intentional shared planning between the 1493 01:35:56,859 --> 01:36:00,789 gen ed teacher and the EC teacher. We want to make sure there are clearly defined 1494 01:36:00,849 --> 01:36:04,539 roles for both teachers, and that both teachers are actively engaged in 1495 01:36:04,569 --> 01:36:08,679 instruction. In our resource settings, we want to make sure that our instruction is 1496 01:36:08,739 --> 01:36:12,729 directly tied to those IEP goals, that there has been structured lesson planning, 1497 01:36:12,789 --> 01:36:17,019 and that we are using evidence-based high leverage practices in those classes. 1498 01:36:18,399 --> 01:36:22,449 Our third priority is instructional accountability. This is a big one. 1499 01:36:22,839 --> 01:36:28,419 So, in our TSI schools in particular, our EC instructional coaches are going to be 1500 01:36:28,449 --> 01:36:31,089 conducting monthly fidelity observations. 1501 01:36:31,449 --> 01:36:33,549 These are not meant to be gotcha observations. 1502 01:36:33,639 --> 01:36:38,319 They are designed to give us a consistent picture of what specially designed 1503 01:36:38,349 --> 01:36:42,129 instruction looks like across our schools, and then help our schools to identify 1504 01:36:42,639 --> 01:36:47,139 instructional priorities for each of our teachers and decide what support they may 1505 01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:52,509 need next. An important part of that process is what we're calling instructional 1506 01:36:52,569 --> 01:36:56,259 roundtables. And Mr. Jarvis, I think this also answers one of your questions. 1507 01:36:56,319 --> 01:37:01,479 So twice a year, and hopefully in the future more often, our coaches are going to 1508 01:37:01,509 --> 01:37:04,959 sit down with our school administrators and our EC teams to really look 1509 01:37:05,019 --> 01:37:08,589 collectively. What is our data telling us? What is our student data telling us? 1510 01:37:08,649 --> 01:37:12,879 What are those observation trends that we're seeing when our coaches are going into 1511 01:37:12,910 --> 01:37:13,660 our classrooms? 1512 01:37:15,069 --> 01:37:17,949 Are we using our programs with fidelity? 1513 01:37:18,819 --> 01:37:21,459 And then if not, what areas of concern do we see? 1514 01:37:22,179 --> 01:37:26,019 And then we're going to use that information to specifically define action steps 1515 01:37:26,049 --> 01:37:28,870 for each school, because it's going to be different from school to school. 1516 01:37:29,529 --> 01:37:31,389 We want to bring all of those pieces together. 1517 01:37:31,539 --> 01:37:35,109 And then from there, you'll see similar to our compliance support plan, we have a 1518 01:37:35,169 --> 01:37:39,429 tiered coaching model. So some of our teachers just need some routine observations 1519 01:37:39,459 --> 01:37:43,839 and maybe some resources. Others may benefit from a full coaching cycle that 1520 01:37:43,870 --> 01:37:48,729 includes modeling from the coaches, co-planning with the coaches, reviewing student 1521 01:37:48,759 --> 01:37:53,649 data with the coaches, and then teachers who need that intensive support will get 1522 01:37:53,709 --> 01:37:56,620 those frequent classroom visits, and a lot of modeling and support and 1523 01:37:56,679 --> 01:37:57,459 collaboration. 1524 01:37:58,749 --> 01:38:01,959 And then you'll see our fourth priority is continuous improvement. 1525 01:38:02,499 --> 01:38:05,799 So we do not want this to be a plan that simply sits on paper. 1526 01:38:07,419 --> 01:38:11,349 Our coaches are going to analyze all of that data, all of those trends, and then 1527 01:38:11,469 --> 01:38:16,239 use that to determine what professional development needs we need to provide, and 1528 01:38:16,269 --> 01:38:19,029 then adjust the priorities for our coaching throughout the year. 1529 01:38:20,799 --> 01:38:24,459 One important part of that is we've got to strengthen our progress monitoring. 1530 01:38:24,879 --> 01:38:28,689 And so since the beginning of school earlier this month, our teachers have been 1531 01:38:28,779 --> 01:38:33,009 already establishing our baseline data and then using those assessments to 1532 01:38:33,069 --> 01:38:37,899 determine where to start. And then we're going to be repeating those middle and end 1533 01:38:37,989 --> 01:38:42,039 of year or semester. That's going to give us that clear picture of whether our 1534 01:38:42,069 --> 01:38:45,729 students are actually growing, and it's going to allow us to make some good 1535 01:38:45,789 --> 01:38:47,949 instructional adjustments when they are not. 1536 01:38:48,579 --> 01:38:53,259 So we know this work will continue to evolve as we are learning, and we're learning 1537 01:38:53,289 --> 01:38:57,910 from our data. But we believe this plan is going to give us that strong structure 1538 01:38:57,999 --> 01:39:02,049 for instructional impact, and hopefully ultimately better outcomes for our students 1539 01:39:02,109 --> 01:39:04,839 with disabilities. We thank you for your support. 1540 01:39:05,620 --> 01:39:08,620 I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have about this plan or the work 1541 01:39:08,679 --> 01:39:09,519 that we have underway. 1542 01:39:12,999 --> 01:39:17,410 I don't have any questions. I have one recommendation or suggestion I would like to 1543 01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:22,899 throw out there. That during some of this stuff that it sounds, and I know that you 1544 01:39:22,959 --> 01:39:25,539 guys do, and we know it, we see it, we hear it. 1545 01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:30,729 Take Sam along with you to some of this stuff and have her share out to the 1546 01:39:30,789 --> 01:39:34,239 community some of the great things we do in our EC department, because I think, 1547 01:39:34,359 --> 01:39:37,029 again, it goes back to the previous discussion we had earlier. 1548 01:39:37,689 --> 01:39:40,149 It takes one negative and it takes 30 positive. 1549 01:39:40,179 --> 01:39:40,870 Absolutely. 1550 01:39:40,929 --> 01:39:45,939 And I know we've got 30 positive, but we're not oftentimes putting that out there 1551 01:39:45,999 --> 01:39:49,479 for everyone to see. We know it in this room because we're in it every day and we 1552 01:39:49,509 --> 01:39:52,839 hear about it, but the common person doesn't see that. 1553 01:39:52,899 --> 01:39:54,129 It needed to amplified. 1554 01:39:54,219 --> 01:39:54,370 Yeah. 1555 01:39:54,579 --> 01:39:56,199 Absolutely. 1556 01:39:56,289 --> 01:40:00,609 Amplify that. Because I know the great work you guys do, and I know when you look 1557 01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:05,229 at the things that have been added on from a responsibility standpoint since 1970, 1558 01:40:05,410 --> 01:40:10,299 the list for the EC department is staggering compared to everywhere else in public 1559 01:40:10,389 --> 01:40:13,089 education. So we understand that. 1560 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:17,589 I think it's important that the community sees what you guys do on a day-to-day 1561 01:40:17,620 --> 01:40:18,849 basis more so. 1562 01:40:19,959 --> 01:40:20,709 Thank you. That's great. 1563 01:40:20,799 --> 01:40:22,149 That's all I have. We appreciate all you do. 1564 01:40:22,179 --> 01:40:26,829 At the end of your progress monitoring expectations, there's a highlighted section 1565 01:40:26,859 --> 01:40:29,410 there. It says, "Under construction, the data dashboard for EC." 1566 01:40:29,589 --> 01:40:29,919 Yes. 1567 01:40:29,979 --> 01:40:34,059 Is that something that can be, once it is constructed, is that something that can 1568 01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,879 be open to the board, to the public? 1569 01:40:37,989 --> 01:40:38,139 Yeah. 1570 01:40:38,199 --> 01:40:40,989 How can we help with that information? 1571 01:40:41,049 --> 01:40:44,349 Sure. We can compile and share that with you. We'd be happy to. 1572 01:40:45,579 --> 01:40:48,729 They're a little different from school to school, well obviously, 1573 01:40:49,929 --> 01:40:50,739 because the 1574 01:40:52,179 --> 01:40:54,009 tools that are being used are different- 1575 01:40:54,189 --> 01:40:54,279 Mm-hmm 1576 01:40:54,279 --> 01:40:57,009 ... at the middle school level versus the high school level versus the elementary 1577 01:40:57,039 --> 01:40:59,949 school level. But yeah, we can absolutely share that data. 1578 01:41:00,009 --> 01:41:04,449 Just wondering if we could exploit that data to people to, like you were talking 1579 01:41:04,449 --> 01:41:04,539 about- 1580 01:41:04,569 --> 01:41:04,779 Yeah 1581 01:41:04,809 --> 01:41:05,739 ... get them in the know. 1582 01:41:05,829 --> 01:41:06,069 Mm-hmm. 1583 01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:09,009 And not just for positive, but just for data in general. 1584 01:41:09,399 --> 01:41:09,519 Yeah. 1585 01:41:09,549 --> 01:41:10,929 Especially the EC families. 1586 01:41:11,685 --> 01:41:14,385 They're really got eyes on all of the criteria. 1587 01:41:14,445 --> 01:41:15,045 Absolutely. 1588 01:41:15,675 --> 01:41:15,765 Sure. 1589 01:41:15,795 --> 01:41:18,645 Yeah, the more informed they are, the better it is. 1590 01:41:18,645 --> 01:41:19,425 The less problems. 1591 01:41:19,515 --> 01:41:20,445 Yes, exactly. 1592 01:41:20,505 --> 01:41:24,375 You know, I'm amazed at how many of our high school folks, when they have a 1593 01:41:24,435 --> 01:41:28,395 one-to-one in their classroom, how positive of an experience it is, right? 1594 01:41:28,606 --> 01:41:31,485 And a lot of times you think, "Oh, it's going to be a disruption, and we've got 1595 01:41:31,576 --> 01:41:35,295 this..." More times than not, having that one-to-one, having that assistance in 1596 01:41:35,356 --> 01:41:38,625 there, is a positive for all the children in that classroom, right? 1597 01:41:38,685 --> 01:41:38,745 Mm-hmm. 1598 01:41:38,745 --> 01:41:41,685 Your gen ed folks and those that maybe have a disability. 1599 01:41:42,316 --> 01:41:46,935 And again, I don't think we do a good enough job reflecting that in the community 1600 01:41:47,025 --> 01:41:50,326 of what that means to those kids that are your typical kids, right? 1601 01:41:50,445 --> 01:41:50,805 Yes. 1602 01:41:51,945 --> 01:41:55,095 And being inclusive and understanding that. 1603 01:41:55,215 --> 01:41:55,455 So- 1604 01:41:55,875 --> 01:41:56,566 Absolutely 1605 01:41:56,595 --> 01:41:58,905 ... I would encourage to continue to do more of that. 1606 01:41:59,865 --> 01:42:00,104 Will do. 1607 01:42:00,135 --> 01:42:01,305 Thank you for this information. 1608 01:42:01,576 --> 01:42:02,265 Thank you. 1609 01:42:03,255 --> 01:42:03,615 Yeah. 1610 01:42:05,085 --> 01:42:05,145 Thank you. 1611 01:42:05,145 --> 01:42:05,145 Thank you. 1612 01:42:05,145 --> 01:42:06,225 Anything else? 1613 01:42:06,255 --> 01:42:06,645 That's it. 1614 01:42:06,705 --> 01:42:07,606 Thank you all so much. 1615 01:42:07,935 --> 01:42:12,826 Thank you. As you can see, these ladies work extremely hard, and when we talk about 1616 01:42:12,885 --> 01:42:17,535 the world of exceptional children, there are so many facets within, and that's 1617 01:42:17,595 --> 01:42:20,535 already been shared. A lot of work goes into it. 1618 01:42:20,595 --> 01:42:23,595 But you're right, we need to accentuate and share the positives. 1619 01:42:23,655 --> 01:42:28,425 There are many positives happening, and oftentimes when it comes to 1620 01:42:29,535 --> 01:42:32,415 exceptional children, is you only hear the negatives. 1621 01:42:32,955 --> 01:42:38,265 And so we'll start sharing the newsletter with the board, but then 1622 01:42:38,415 --> 01:42:43,066 also we'll do a better job of maybe in the weekly board briefs, instead of just 1623 01:42:43,125 --> 01:42:48,764 highlighting some things that happen, sharing some specific comments from what has 1624 01:42:48,826 --> 01:42:53,925 taken place this week. And of course, getting Samantha to go out and cover that and 1625 01:42:54,495 --> 01:42:57,105 run it on social media as well. So thank you for that. 1626 01:42:57,165 --> 01:42:57,465 Yeah. 1627 01:42:57,526 --> 01:43:00,105 Great suggestions. Also, I wanted to add this. 1628 01:43:00,135 --> 01:43:03,735 When someone asked the question about communication, I believe it was you, Mr. 1629 01:43:03,975 --> 01:43:09,675 Chairman. One thing we talked about is also putting out a Google Form 1630 01:43:09,765 --> 01:43:15,375 survey to EC teachers to collect some information and 1631 01:43:15,435 --> 01:43:20,776 feedback from them, especially as we look at these two areas that we're focusing on 1632 01:43:20,836 --> 01:43:26,026 this year to again, bring information specifically back to these ladies and to-- 1633 01:43:26,745 --> 01:43:31,576 That can then go forward to the coaches as well. So thank you for that. 1634 01:43:32,625 --> 01:43:37,245 The next item I have this evening is the English Language Arts standards rollout. 1635 01:43:37,725 --> 01:43:42,105 So one thing that the Department of Public Instruction has been doing for the last 1636 01:43:42,165 --> 01:43:47,595 six years is, um, developing the next set of 1637 01:43:47,685 --> 01:43:51,076 standards, K12, for English language arts. 1638 01:43:51,555 --> 01:43:57,526 In your packet, I have given you an infographic of our rollout for the new ELA 1639 01:43:57,586 --> 01:44:02,115 standards, as well as a timeline for that rollout. 1640 01:44:02,445 --> 01:44:07,935 And tonight, I just wanted to give you a brief overview of this. 1641 01:44:08,265 --> 01:44:13,395 Davidson County Schools will be rolling out these new ELA standards, K12, under the 1642 01:44:13,485 --> 01:44:19,185 banner of A Year of Learning or a Future of Success, and 1643 01:44:19,276 --> 01:44:25,125 that is to equip our teachers. This year is considered the installation 1644 01:44:25,185 --> 01:44:27,555 year by the Department of Public Instruction. 1645 01:44:27,945 --> 01:44:33,885 What that means is, because there have been significant changes in 1646 01:44:33,975 --> 01:44:37,755 the K12 ELA standards, they want teachers 1647 01:44:38,985 --> 01:44:44,745 well-versed and educated on what those changes are, so that teachers can 1648 01:44:44,776 --> 01:44:50,295 begin right now thinking about how the new standards compare to the standards 1649 01:44:50,355 --> 01:44:55,215 they're currently teaching, and they have been teaching for the last nine years. 1650 01:44:56,055 --> 01:44:58,725 Because as I said, there are substantial changes. 1651 01:44:59,205 --> 01:45:03,735 So I want you to understand what some of those changes are and why we're going to 1652 01:45:03,826 --> 01:45:07,305 do a year of rolling this out with our staff. 1653 01:45:07,816 --> 01:45:12,285 First, these new standards align directly with the science of reading. 1654 01:45:12,345 --> 01:45:18,285 That's the K-5 letters training that our K-5 teachers are all required, and 1655 01:45:18,375 --> 01:45:21,675 EC teachers in K-5 are required to take part in. 1656 01:45:22,725 --> 01:45:27,615 These standards are also evidence-based practices for ELA instruction. 1657 01:45:28,185 --> 01:45:33,675 They focus on building student knowledge, vocabulary, and 1658 01:45:33,735 --> 01:45:37,635 comprehension. I'm really excited for October the 5th. 1659 01:45:37,695 --> 01:45:41,715 You're going to hear what Davidson County Schools has already done in building 1660 01:45:41,805 --> 01:45:45,945 student knowledge, and we're on the cutting edge of some great work happening 1661 01:45:46,005 --> 01:45:48,705 across the state of North Carolina. So stay tuned. 1662 01:45:48,735 --> 01:45:50,505 We're excited to share that with you. 1663 01:45:51,225 --> 01:45:56,505 These new standards also ensure consistency and coherence across grade levels. 1664 01:45:56,865 --> 01:46:02,175 They prepare students to not only be college-ready, but career-ready, or perhaps 1665 01:46:02,265 --> 01:46:07,725 just for success in life. Full implementation of the new ELA 1666 01:46:07,785 --> 01:46:12,826 standards and state testing on these new ELA standards, so that's third, fourth, 1667 01:46:12,855 --> 01:46:18,586 and fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth EOG reading tests, as well 1668 01:46:18,765 --> 01:46:24,526 as English 2, all of that will take place in the 2027/2028 school 1669 01:46:24,586 --> 01:46:30,316 year. Again, that is the reason we cannot wait to put these standards in front of 1670 01:46:30,375 --> 01:46:34,665 our teachers. If we wait until the end of the school year and then begin to roll 1671 01:46:34,725 --> 01:46:40,215 this out, our teachers are behind and are playing catch up all year long next 1672 01:46:40,305 --> 01:46:42,826 year with understanding new standards. 1673 01:46:43,485 --> 01:46:47,776 So to simplify this for you, I just want you to understand what we're going to be 1674 01:46:47,836 --> 01:46:53,745 doing. This school year, we have designed a continuous cycle of professional 1675 01:46:53,805 --> 01:46:58,816 learning to ensure that our teachers are fully prepared for next school year with 1676 01:46:58,845 --> 01:47:04,336 these new ELA standards. Our ultimate goal is to develop confident 1677 01:47:04,455 --> 01:47:10,276 teachers with a deep understanding of these new ELA standards that reflect 1678 01:47:10,365 --> 01:47:15,705 high-quality instruction and maximize classroom impact. 1679 01:47:16,066 --> 01:47:19,035 So we're going to do that. You probably are saying, "Well, how are you going to do 1680 01:47:19,095 --> 01:47:23,925 that?" Well, first, we're going to build capacity, and we do that by the curriculum 1681 01:47:23,985 --> 01:47:28,336 directors will lead monthly professional development sessions with our 1682 01:47:28,365 --> 01:47:32,115 instructional coaches that are in all of our schools. So Ms. 1683 01:47:32,175 --> 01:47:35,265 Willard will work with the elementary instructional coaches, Ms. 1684 01:47:35,355 --> 01:47:37,305 Bush with the middle school, and Dr. 1685 01:47:37,364 --> 01:47:41,864 Milstead with high school to focus on the new ELA standards. 1686 01:47:42,526 --> 01:47:46,635 From there, the instructional coaches will do the school level training. 1687 01:47:46,935 --> 01:47:52,875 So they will take the exact same model that is utilized with them 1688 01:47:52,995 --> 01:47:58,425 to return to their respective schools and train model strategies and support 1689 01:47:58,545 --> 01:48:03,705 ELA teachers as they begin to take a look and learn and understand these new 1690 01:48:03,765 --> 01:48:08,895 standards. They can also incorporate some of these strategies in with this year's 1691 01:48:08,955 --> 01:48:14,385 standards. The third piece of that is resources and pacing 1692 01:48:14,445 --> 01:48:20,415 alignment. In the spring, we will pull teams of teachers together and instructional 1693 01:48:20,505 --> 01:48:25,965 coaches, just as we did this past spring, and they will work with the 1694 01:48:26,026 --> 01:48:31,665 directors to align pacing and our pacing guides, as well as all of our 1695 01:48:31,695 --> 01:48:36,826 instructional resources, to guarantee consistency, to have that 1696 01:48:36,885 --> 01:48:42,586 coherence across the district, and ensure that we have high-quality instruction in 1697 01:48:42,705 --> 01:48:45,105 all of our classrooms next school year. 1698 01:48:46,035 --> 01:48:50,836 One thing that I am happy to say in my conversations with the Department of Public 1699 01:48:50,925 --> 01:48:55,845 Instruction as part of this rollout and in the training that I've been a part of 1700 01:48:55,875 --> 01:48:59,475 with our directors, Davidson County Schools is in a good spot. 1701 01:49:00,195 --> 01:49:05,145 We have been saving our textbook allocated dollars from the 1702 01:49:05,205 --> 01:49:10,845 state to look at perhaps purchasing a core reading 1703 01:49:10,906 --> 01:49:14,715 program to help align with these new standards. 1704 01:49:15,316 --> 01:49:18,675 But in my conversations with them, they said, "You're in better shape than most 1705 01:49:18,735 --> 01:49:21,826 districts." Because a lot of districts have already adopted, and so they're going 1706 01:49:21,855 --> 01:49:26,595 to have to take what they've already purchased and make that align to these 1707 01:49:26,656 --> 01:49:31,755 standards. If not, supplement other pieces to have the alignment. 1708 01:49:32,415 --> 01:49:38,235 We have our set aside dollars from textbook dollars to purchase the resources we 1709 01:49:38,326 --> 01:49:43,545 need to teach these standards. And so I'm really excited about that, and I'll be 1710 01:49:43,576 --> 01:49:47,836 sharing more information with this board once we get into the spring and we're 1711 01:49:47,895 --> 01:49:49,816 really ready to take a look at that. 1712 01:49:50,445 --> 01:49:55,276 So just to summarize for you, Davidson County Schools is taking a 1713 01:49:55,365 --> 01:50:00,765 proactive phased approach to these new ELA standards. 1714 01:50:01,305 --> 01:50:06,915 We're going to use '26, '27 school year as a dedicated year of professional 1715 01:50:07,005 --> 01:50:11,385 learning and resource alignment so that our teachers 1716 01:50:12,105 --> 01:50:18,076 K-12 who teach ELA standards that our teachers and our students are fully supported 1717 01:50:18,165 --> 01:50:23,535 ahead of the 2027-'28 school year, and before the 1718 01:50:23,535 --> 01:50:29,385 '27-'28 assessment transition occurs, because we know any time there's 1719 01:50:29,445 --> 01:50:34,906 new standards and there's a new test, there's always a gap in there. 1720 01:50:34,995 --> 01:50:40,906 So we're hoping to be proactive by really working on this and rolling this out this 1721 01:50:40,995 --> 01:50:44,685 year. Also in your packet, I'm not going to go through it for you because you can 1722 01:50:44,776 --> 01:50:49,365 see that, you will see our installation timeline by levels. 1723 01:50:49,725 --> 01:50:52,995 So that's in there so you can see what we're going to be doing at the elementary 1724 01:50:53,055 --> 01:50:55,215 level, the middle school level, and the high school level. 1725 01:50:55,276 --> 01:50:59,955 They're slightly different because the standards are slightly different, but we're 1726 01:50:59,985 --> 01:51:04,785 very excited about this work. Just wanted to bring that before you tonight because 1727 01:51:04,845 --> 01:51:09,615 you may hear from teachers saying, "Oh, I'm still teaching the old. 1728 01:51:10,125 --> 01:51:14,805 I'm learning the new. I'm finding a way to figure out how's this new going to work 1729 01:51:14,836 --> 01:51:20,026 with what I'm used to teaching and I've taught the last nine years." So we wanted 1730 01:51:20,115 --> 01:51:24,645 you to understand what we're doing with this rollout by providing you this 1731 01:51:24,705 --> 01:51:26,026 information this evening. 1732 01:51:28,336 --> 01:51:31,695 Any questions about that? It's really just for your information. 1733 01:51:32,656 --> 01:51:33,975 It's good to be proactive. 1734 01:51:34,755 --> 01:51:37,245 We like being proactive. Yes, 1735 01:51:37,276 --> 01:51:42,975 sir. The 1736 01:51:43,035 --> 01:51:47,566 next item I have for you this evening, I am requesting approval of a service 1737 01:51:47,656 --> 01:51:50,836 agreement with Supportive Care ABA. 1738 01:51:51,735 --> 01:51:56,595 This agency would like to provide applied behavior analysis services to students in 1739 01:51:56,656 --> 01:52:02,026 Davidson County Schools that have privately contracted with Supportive Care 1740 01:52:02,145 --> 01:52:07,725 ABA. So tonight I am bringing this memorandum of agreement before you 1741 01:52:08,505 --> 01:52:09,255 for approval. 1742 01:52:11,685 --> 01:52:12,675 Any questions on- 1743 01:52:12,765 --> 01:52:15,195 They've been through the same vetting process as all the ABAs. 1744 01:52:15,316 --> 01:52:15,555 Everything. 1745 01:52:15,615 --> 01:52:19,965 Yes, sir. And they will have an onboarding with me before they ever step foot in 1746 01:52:20,026 --> 01:52:20,595 our schools. 1747 01:52:23,745 --> 01:52:25,785 Any questions? The board heard Dr. 1748 01:52:25,875 --> 01:52:31,276 Coley's request for Supportive Care ABA for applied behavioral analysis services. 1749 01:52:32,656 --> 01:52:35,535 Do I have a motion to approve this memorandum of agreement? 1750 01:52:35,865 --> 01:52:36,526 I'll make a motion. 1751 01:52:37,066 --> 01:52:38,086 Motion. Do I have a second? 1752 01:52:38,656 --> 01:52:39,285 I'll second. 1753 01:52:39,765 --> 01:52:40,455 All in favor? 1754 01:52:41,985 --> 01:52:42,765 Thank you, board 1755 01:52:43,005 --> 01:52:43,395 Thank you. 1756 01:52:44,086 --> 01:52:48,285 The next item I have this evening, tonight I bring before you a request for the 1757 01:52:48,615 --> 01:52:54,285 purchase of OnToCollege. This is an online software program that 1758 01:52:54,765 --> 01:53:00,076 provides ACT prep from Baylor Enterprises Incorporated. 1759 01:53:00,826 --> 01:53:06,285 This is a one-year contract purchase from Baylor Enterprises. 1760 01:53:06,705 --> 01:53:10,305 The cost of this online test prep resource is 1761 01:53:10,336 --> 01:53:15,826 $35,284, and we are using state at-risk 1762 01:53:15,915 --> 01:53:20,836 funds. Typically, what we have done the last number of years, and I want to say 1763 01:53:20,895 --> 01:53:26,836 probably 10 plus years, we have taken at-risk funds to give to our high schools 1764 01:53:26,895 --> 01:53:32,355 for them to provide ACT sessions after school, also tutoring 1765 01:53:32,445 --> 01:53:37,935 sessions after school. And what we have found, in the last seven years, is 1766 01:53:38,026 --> 01:53:40,665 students are not interested in staying after school. 1767 01:53:41,295 --> 01:53:46,845 Now that we have our flex time available each and every day in all of our high 1768 01:53:46,935 --> 01:53:52,545 schools, we want to use flex time with sophomores and juniors in 1769 01:53:52,695 --> 01:53:56,086 utilizing OnToCollege for ACT prep. 1770 01:53:57,495 --> 01:54:00,826 We have had proven results in using OnToCollege. 1771 01:54:00,885 --> 01:54:05,086 We haven't purchased it in several years, but when we did, we were getting proven 1772 01:54:05,115 --> 01:54:08,836 results with using OnToCollege platform. 1773 01:54:09,105 --> 01:54:14,625 It is engaging, it's high energy in the format of it with students, so we're very 1774 01:54:14,656 --> 01:54:20,415 excited about this opportunity. Again, we're using the state at-risk 1775 01:54:20,475 --> 01:54:26,145 funds to pay for this. If you look specifically at the quote, 1776 01:54:26,595 --> 01:54:29,925 you will notice that we do not have all of our schools listed. 1777 01:54:29,985 --> 01:54:35,055 Not all 10 high schools are listed on the quote, and there's a very good reason for 1778 01:54:35,115 --> 01:54:39,015 that. Some of the high schools have developed their own. 1779 01:54:39,855 --> 01:54:44,475 At Central Davidson High School, the instructional coach has developed an 1780 01:54:45,765 --> 01:54:51,705 ACT prep program that they are using, so they have requested to receive their 1781 01:54:51,826 --> 01:54:56,535 allocation of state at-risk funds to be used on something else that's a need at 1782 01:54:56,595 --> 01:55:00,795 their school, based on how this was allocated per school. 1783 01:55:01,215 --> 01:55:05,836 And then another example is at South Davidson Middle and High School. 1784 01:55:06,526 --> 01:55:10,515 Teachers there have created a system, and they have been using that. 1785 01:55:10,576 --> 01:55:16,365 They saw great success with it last year during flex block as they 1786 01:55:16,425 --> 01:55:21,375 provided this small group instruction on ACT prep with students. 1787 01:55:21,765 --> 01:55:27,435 So those are just two. All principals had the opportunity to give feedback and 1788 01:55:27,526 --> 01:55:32,385 talk with teachers on how they wanted to proceed with ACT prep. 1789 01:55:32,955 --> 01:55:37,695 Oak Grove High School is another one just off the top when I wasn't thinking about. 1790 01:55:38,415 --> 01:55:44,385 They purchased Albert to support their AP classes, and Albert 1791 01:55:44,475 --> 01:55:50,445 has an ACT prep component in it that teachers at Oak Grove High School prefer 1792 01:55:50,505 --> 01:55:56,355 to use during flex. So, we do allow for that differentiation based on school 1793 01:55:56,445 --> 01:56:01,545 need. But as you can see, the majority of our high schools prefer OnToCollege. 1794 01:56:05,505 --> 01:56:06,316 I've got a question about- 1795 01:56:06,615 --> 01:56:06,945 Yes. 1796 01:56:07,005 --> 01:56:09,555 First of all, have you used OnToCollege before? 1797 01:56:09,645 --> 01:56:12,826 Yes, sir. And we have proven results that it has worked well. 1798 01:56:13,276 --> 01:56:13,365 And 1799 01:56:14,566 --> 01:56:17,355 based on the different schools that aren't listed here, if you have four different 1800 01:56:17,415 --> 01:56:22,725 methods to do the same ACT prep, is there a best practice that's getting better 1801 01:56:22,785 --> 01:56:26,175 results, or is it just kind of carte blanche or whatever works for that school? 1802 01:56:26,445 --> 01:56:29,385 Right. Well, part of it is what works best for each school. 1803 01:56:29,925 --> 01:56:33,526 I will say we have not used OnToCollege in five years. 1804 01:56:34,095 --> 01:56:39,645 We were seeing great results, but due to funding issues, we did not purchase 1805 01:56:39,705 --> 01:56:45,675 OnToCollege because, again, at that time, we were using Albert district-wide with 1806 01:56:46,035 --> 01:56:51,225 our advanced placement courses. And some schools were trying out the ACT prep 1807 01:56:51,945 --> 01:56:56,895 portion of that, which is why Oak Grove High School chooses to use school funds to 1808 01:56:56,955 --> 01:57:01,276 purchase that for their ACT prep and AP to support AP classrooms. 1809 01:57:02,745 --> 01:57:08,715 So we saw proven results. And in the last two years, principals have said, "We're 1810 01:57:08,745 --> 01:57:13,935 not able to really use our at-risk funds because students are not willing to stay 1811 01:57:13,995 --> 01:57:18,675 after school. We would love to be able to take those funds and put them towards 1812 01:57:18,735 --> 01:57:22,935 something that is needed in our schools that will help raise student achievement." 1813 01:57:23,475 --> 01:57:28,665 The majority of them said, "We need ACT prep," because that is one component of 1814 01:57:28,755 --> 01:57:32,265 high school achievement when they get their school performance grade. 1815 01:57:33,195 --> 01:57:36,975 The others felt that what they've worked on is working and they 1816 01:57:38,355 --> 01:57:39,945 have other needs that they would like to spend those dollars on. 1817 01:57:39,945 --> 01:57:42,765 Across the district, they're all getting a chance at ACT prep. 1818 01:57:42,826 --> 01:57:44,086 It just looks different at each school. 1819 01:57:44,175 --> 01:57:48,526 Yes, sir. And then if they choose not to go with OnToCollege, they may be using 1820 01:57:48,555 --> 01:57:51,165 their dollars that will be allocated for them for something else. 1821 01:57:51,465 --> 01:57:53,175 And all of them are getting good results? 1822 01:57:53,625 --> 01:57:57,105 Yes, sir. And like I said, we haven't used this in five years, but we have proven 1823 01:57:57,135 --> 01:57:58,156 results from Oak Grove High School. 1824 01:57:58,185 --> 01:57:58,755 From when you did use it. 1825 01:57:58,816 --> 01:58:03,795 Yes, sir. And we didn't even have a flex block then. 1826 01:58:03,855 --> 01:58:03,975 Mm-hmm. 1827 01:58:04,425 --> 01:58:10,336 We had to find time to use ACT prep with OnToCollege, and most of it was after 1828 01:58:10,395 --> 01:58:10,965 school then. 1829 01:58:10,995 --> 01:58:11,985 After school, yeah. 1830 01:58:11,985 --> 01:58:12,076 Yes. 1831 01:58:12,105 --> 01:58:15,435 So this is going to be used for the pre-ACT kids that are getting- 1832 01:58:15,555 --> 01:58:15,885 Correct 1833 01:58:15,915 --> 01:58:17,925 ... ready in a flex situation. 1834 01:58:18,015 --> 01:58:18,406 Absolutely. 1835 01:58:18,435 --> 01:58:19,695 For all kids, not just- 1836 01:58:20,625 --> 01:58:24,285 We will target sophomores and juniors because it's their junior year they take the 1837 01:58:24,285 --> 01:58:24,615 ACT- 1838 01:58:24,735 --> 01:58:24,826 ACT 1839 01:58:24,826 --> 01:58:28,095 ... but yes, we do the pre-ACT as well with the sophomores. 1840 01:58:31,276 --> 01:58:31,755 Any questions? 1841 01:58:31,755 --> 01:58:34,035 It saved me a whole lot of money because I paid for a program. 1842 01:58:35,235 --> 01:58:37,035 And programs are very expensive. 1843 01:58:37,125 --> 01:58:37,755 Expensive. 1844 01:58:37,845 --> 01:58:37,935 Yeah. 1845 01:58:37,965 --> 01:58:39,105 It was 300 and some dollars. 1846 01:58:40,455 --> 01:58:40,755 Good. 1847 01:58:42,855 --> 01:58:47,865 The board y'all heard Dr. Coley's request for Baylor Enterprises OnToCollege 1848 01:58:48,855 --> 01:58:54,826 ACT prep, excuse me, at a cost of $35,284 paid for with state 1849 01:58:54,915 --> 01:58:57,645 at-risk funds. Do I have a motion to approve this request? 1850 01:58:58,455 --> 01:58:59,205 I'll make a motion. 1851 01:58:59,685 --> 01:59:00,345 Do I have a second? 1852 01:59:00,586 --> 01:59:01,545 I'll second. 1853 01:59:01,605 --> 01:59:02,145 All in favor? 1854 01:59:03,586 --> 01:59:06,615 Thank you, board members. I can assure you, you just made some high schools 1855 01:59:06,705 --> 01:59:12,285 extremely happy about that. The final item I have this evening is Unique 1856 01:59:12,345 --> 01:59:15,195 Learning standards-based curriculum and monitoring. 1857 01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,849 Tonight I bring before you, this is a renewal 1858 01:59:20,409 --> 01:59:24,399 that we are requesting approval of Everway for the purchase of a one-year 1859 01:59:24,459 --> 01:59:29,919 subscription for unique learning standards, aligned content, data and assessment 1860 01:59:30,009 --> 01:59:35,469 tools for IEP development and progress monitoring, and tools for non-verbal 1861 01:59:35,559 --> 01:59:40,299 individuals or cognitive challenges for use in our adaptive classrooms. 1862 01:59:41,409 --> 01:59:45,909 Unique learning is aligned to the North Carolina Extended Content Standards. 1863 01:59:46,029 --> 01:59:48,880 This is the software that we have been using. 1864 01:59:48,969 --> 01:59:53,319 These are the lessons teachers teach in those classrooms. 1865 01:59:53,830 --> 01:59:57,880 It is age-appropriate, so when you think about adaptive programs, 1866 01:59:59,169 --> 02:00:02,140 students can remain in school to age 22. 1867 02:00:02,709 --> 02:00:08,140 So it is age-appropriate academic exposure content that is appropriate for 1868 02:00:08,229 --> 02:00:11,049 cognitive depth with unique learning. 1869 02:00:11,439 --> 02:00:17,380 It does provide that multi-tiered differentiation for students in our adaptive 1870 02:00:17,439 --> 02:00:23,049 programs. And as I mentioned, it also helps students that have 1871 02:00:23,140 --> 02:00:28,929 integrated augmentative communication needs, such as assisted 1872 02:00:29,259 --> 02:00:35,229 technology features. It will allow for touch screens and it will allow for 1873 02:00:35,859 --> 02:00:40,659 symbol sticks, all of those many different assisted technology pieces. 1874 02:00:41,019 --> 02:00:46,779 And it provides real-time data and tracking for our teachers at the school 1875 02:00:46,870 --> 02:00:49,149 level for progress monitoring of needs. 1876 02:00:49,539 --> 02:00:54,729 So tonight, I bring this request to you for this unique learning. 1877 02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:58,989 The cost of the extended content standards-based curriculum and monitoring is 1878 02:00:59,019 --> 02:01:04,689 $46,560.73, and it will be paid using 1879 02:01:04,779 --> 02:01:06,159 federal EC funds. 1880 02:01:08,109 --> 02:01:09,609 And you did say this was a renewal? 1881 02:01:09,999 --> 02:01:10,539 Yes, sir. 1882 02:01:11,499 --> 02:01:15,189 So on this quote, it says it's valid until December 9, 2026. 1883 02:01:15,819 --> 02:01:18,519 It is a full year. So- 1884 02:01:19,539 --> 02:01:22,450 That's pretty standard. They may have just said it for the quote's good for- 1885 02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:25,479 That's the length that the quote's good. 1886 02:01:25,539 --> 02:01:26,529 If you look under- 1887 02:01:27,729 --> 02:01:27,969 Terms 1888 02:01:28,029 --> 02:01:33,370 ... the subscription starts on 9/11 and it ends on 19, 2027. 1889 02:01:33,669 --> 02:01:33,789 Okay. 1890 02:01:33,849 --> 02:01:34,630 So it's a whole year. 1891 02:01:34,929 --> 02:01:35,229 Okay. 1892 02:01:35,799 --> 02:01:35,979 Yes. 1893 02:01:36,009 --> 02:01:36,099 Great. 1894 02:01:36,130 --> 02:01:39,039 Is this the only program that the adaptive- 1895 02:01:39,999 --> 02:01:43,630 This is their primary program because it's aligned to the extended content 1896 02:01:43,719 --> 02:01:49,029 standards. There are some other supplemental tools that we use, but this is their 1897 02:01:49,089 --> 02:01:49,779 primary 1898 02:01:51,789 --> 02:01:55,179 lessons with the extended content standards. Yes. 1899 02:01:56,049 --> 02:01:59,799 And this meets the needs of all our schools for our EC- 1900 02:01:59,950 --> 02:02:02,709 On the extended content standards for our adaptive students. Yes. 1901 02:02:02,769 --> 02:02:06,069 Regardless if they're in a program at the school level or Thurston or Thomas. 1902 02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:06,519 Okay. 1903 02:02:06,580 --> 02:02:07,450 They all use it. 1904 02:02:07,479 --> 02:02:07,719 Thank you. 1905 02:02:08,409 --> 02:02:08,950 Yes, ma'am. 1906 02:02:11,679 --> 02:02:17,319 The board heard Dr. Coley's request for the purchase of Everway, an IEP development 1907 02:02:17,349 --> 02:02:20,349 and progress monitoring tool, at a cost of 1908 02:02:20,380 --> 02:02:25,870 $46,560.73. We'll use federal EC funds. 1909 02:02:26,049 --> 02:02:27,969 Do I have a motion to approve this request? 1910 02:02:28,479 --> 02:02:29,229 I'll make a motion. 1911 02:02:30,068 --> 02:02:31,658 I have a motion, and I have a second. 1912 02:02:31,809 --> 02:02:31,959 Second. 1913 02:02:32,049 --> 02:02:32,739 All in favor? 1914 02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:38,469 Thank you so much. Our adaptive teachers will remain very happy. Thank you. 1915 02:02:38,589 --> 02:02:39,069 Absolutely. 1916 02:02:41,890 --> 02:02:43,029 Oh, my Lord. 1917 02:02:44,259 --> 02:02:46,539 Dr. 1918 02:02:46,719 --> 02:03:00,429 Hilton. 1919 02:03:00,489 --> 02:03:02,259 Good evening, board members and Dr. Slate. 1920 02:03:03,279 --> 02:03:07,089 I want to talk to you just a little bit about hiring, recruitment, and retention. 1921 02:03:07,419 --> 02:03:11,649 Last year, I gave a brief report on that information, so I'm going to cover that 1922 02:03:11,709 --> 02:03:12,880 again tonight. 1923 02:03:14,709 --> 02:03:18,640 So first off, I want to start with hiring, and on page three, you'll see our 1924 02:03:18,669 --> 02:03:20,109 historical hiring data. 1925 02:03:21,429 --> 02:03:26,709 And that goes from 2022 all the way through to 2025-26. 1926 02:03:28,659 --> 02:03:31,059 First part of that talks about classified hires. 1927 02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:35,919 You see we started with 250, and it's been relatively consistent throughout the 1928 02:03:36,009 --> 02:03:41,019 last four years, 276, 275, and 270. 1929 02:03:41,979 --> 02:03:47,649 Now if you look at the second line, you see certified hires, 154, 1930 02:03:47,830 --> 02:03:52,899 157, 153, and 138. And the only reason that is a little bit lower, I think, is 1931 02:03:52,929 --> 02:03:57,789 because our enrollment is going down a little bit, has went down a little bit. 1932 02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:03,399 So in 2022, our enrollment was 17,800 students, and 1933 02:04:03,459 --> 02:04:08,950 now it's 17,246 students. And so certified positions are 1934 02:04:09,009 --> 02:04:10,689 attached to our student enrollment. 1935 02:04:10,779 --> 02:04:14,709 So as student enrollment, if it drops, then you're going to see certified hires 1936 02:04:14,769 --> 02:04:18,819 drop a little bit. Substitute teachers, I do want to point that out. 1937 02:04:19,659 --> 02:04:25,269 We had 155 hires last year, and something good, we started 1938 02:04:25,539 --> 02:04:30,580 the new substitute onboarding program this past year, this past summer, 1939 02:04:31,390 --> 02:04:35,529 and we've already seen 113 actually go through the program. 1940 02:04:35,589 --> 02:04:37,539 So we're well ahead right now on that. 1941 02:04:38,709 --> 02:04:42,009 From what I understand, they told me, I think part of the reason is they're not 1942 02:04:42,069 --> 02:04:47,979 having to pay the $50 to do it. And so we're seeing a big uptake in subs that want 1943 02:04:48,279 --> 02:04:53,049 to work for us. Total subs that we have as of right now, last year, we had about 1944 02:04:53,349 --> 02:04:58,269 600, and right now we have about 715. So which is good. 1945 02:04:58,330 --> 02:05:02,890 When you think about the overall district, that means there's about over 3,000 1946 02:05:02,919 --> 02:05:05,380 employees in our district working. Yep. 1947 02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:12,039 If you go to the next one, vacancy September 2023 to 2026. 1948 02:05:13,179 --> 02:05:18,159 And you see, in September '23, we had 33 certified vacancies at this time. 1949 02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:24,459 The next year was 43. Last year we had 11, and then this year we have 26. 1950 02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:25,959 Of those 26, 1951 02:05:27,459 --> 02:05:29,950 six of those are regular ed teaching positions. 1952 02:05:31,479 --> 02:05:34,749 We added three of those actually because of 1953 02:05:36,009 --> 02:05:37,929 numbers with kindergarten and things like that. 1954 02:05:37,989 --> 02:05:43,539 But, overall, if you look at the totals, September '23, we were at 1955 02:05:43,719 --> 02:05:49,659 95. September '24, we had 120 vacancies, 54 and 25, 1956 02:05:49,719 --> 02:05:51,549 and then September '26, we're at 78. 1957 02:05:51,609 --> 02:05:56,769 So we're still much better off than we were with 120 that we were at two years ago. 1958 02:05:57,999 --> 02:05:59,890 And then 95 the year before that. 1959 02:06:01,749 --> 02:06:04,509 So recruitment, I want to talk about recruitment just a little bit. 1960 02:06:05,409 --> 02:06:09,849 Recruitment efforts '24, '25. You see these are some of the universities that we 1961 02:06:09,909 --> 02:06:14,830 attended for recruitment fairs. And you can see that our biggest recruiter is 1962 02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:18,399 actually not a fair, it is student teaching and internships. 1963 02:06:18,459 --> 02:06:22,299 And I think our folks come in, they meet our principals, they meet some of the 1964 02:06:22,359 --> 02:06:25,899 other teachers and staff, and they say, "This is a good place to work." And so 1965 02:06:25,959 --> 02:06:30,909 that's primarily how we get our people, is through that. We got 15 that year. 1966 02:06:31,809 --> 02:06:36,039 You see some of these, we had zero. Just getting one person through a fair actually 1967 02:06:36,099 --> 02:06:41,709 is a pretty big deal. And I say that because a person coming from the traditional 1968 02:06:41,769 --> 02:06:43,599 pathway is going to 1969 02:06:44,830 --> 02:06:50,200 be more prepared and ready. And so if you get a person going through a traditional 1970 02:06:50,259 --> 02:06:55,989 program, that's a big deal. And so although some of those have one, some of 1971 02:06:56,859 --> 02:07:01,209 them have zero. And, if there is a zero there, we've looked at that. 1972 02:07:01,269 --> 02:07:05,169 Like North Carolina State, we were competing against Wake County, so we didn't 1973 02:07:05,229 --> 02:07:09,669 continue going to State. Pembroke just didn't have a lot of people either. 1974 02:07:10,450 --> 02:07:12,279 If you look at '25, '26, 1975 02:07:14,469 --> 02:07:17,409 you see again, our biggest recruiter is student teachers. 1976 02:07:18,909 --> 02:07:20,319 We had 12 that were hired. 1977 02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:25,299 App State did give us another one. But within those student teachers 1978 02:07:27,039 --> 02:07:31,899 are the universities that we have. So like App State provides student teachers. 1979 02:07:32,589 --> 02:07:36,189 UNCG provides student teachers. High Point University provides student teachers. 1980 02:07:36,219 --> 02:07:36,279 So 1981 02:07:37,779 --> 02:07:40,509 when we go to a fair, we're just trying to get extra people if we can. 1982 02:07:40,539 --> 02:07:43,509 It's kind of like the icing on top if we can get one of those people. 1983 02:07:43,539 --> 02:07:45,429 And sometimes we do, and sometimes we don't. 1984 02:07:47,049 --> 02:07:50,349 If you look at the next one, '26, '27, this is where we're going this year. 1985 02:07:51,249 --> 02:07:55,209 In October, App State is the first one. That's a big fair. 1986 02:07:55,450 --> 02:07:58,479 They'll have over 120-some graduates, typically. 1987 02:08:00,130 --> 02:08:05,140 East Carolina, App State again, High Point University, UNC Charlotte, UNC 1988 02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:07,209 Greensboro, and UNC Wilmington. 1989 02:08:10,299 --> 02:08:13,989 And then the number of student teachers, last year we had 34. 1990 02:08:14,049 --> 02:08:19,659 The year before that, we had 25 Thus far we have 25, but that's just thus 1991 02:08:19,719 --> 02:08:20,049 far. 1992 02:08:21,459 --> 02:08:24,759 Right now, as we continue throughout the year, we'll add to that number. 1993 02:08:25,630 --> 02:08:28,630 I would hope that number would be at 35 or 40 before the year is done. 1994 02:08:28,659 --> 02:08:32,109 So that's a good sign that we're getting that many student teachers this early. 1995 02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:39,279 Our student-teacher partnerships, if you look, we have 25 total placements right 1996 02:08:39,339 --> 02:08:39,580 now. 1997 02:08:40,929 --> 02:08:42,039 High Point University, 1998 02:08:43,239 --> 02:08:46,330 we have nine student teachers from High Point University right now, which is the 1999 02:08:46,359 --> 02:08:47,229 most we've ever had, 2000 02:08:48,549 --> 02:08:52,419 which is fantastic. App State usually provides quite a few for us as well. 2001 02:08:53,559 --> 02:08:57,849 UNCG, and you see all of these are working with us this year. 2002 02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:00,309 So 25 total placements this year. It's good. 2003 02:09:00,789 --> 02:09:03,939 I think we're in a good spot right now, and we'll continue to add to those. 2004 02:09:05,799 --> 02:09:08,799 Next, priorities for recruitment 2026, '27. 2005 02:09:08,919 --> 02:09:14,769 So obviously hiring top graduates is one of the biggest for us, and that is getting 2006 02:09:14,830 --> 02:09:17,859 folks from traditional education programs. 2007 02:09:19,089 --> 02:09:22,719 And the reason being because, number one, the turnover rate for those folks is 2008 02:09:22,779 --> 02:09:27,789 lower. And it's a big deal to get someone that's gone through a traditional program 2009 02:09:27,819 --> 02:09:30,789 because they've had the internships, they've had the student teaching, they're just 2010 02:09:30,819 --> 02:09:34,120 going to be much more well prepared to go into the classroom. 2011 02:09:35,769 --> 02:09:39,640 Overall, we have about 50% of our folks going through traditional programs right 2012 02:09:39,700 --> 02:09:44,259 now that we hire, and about 50% are alternative licensure. 2013 02:09:44,739 --> 02:09:48,130 And alternative licensure being those folks that are stepping into the classroom, 2014 02:09:48,189 --> 02:09:52,120 they have a degree, but they have not done any internships or student teaching or 2015 02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:57,909 anything like that. So we average about 50%, but the state average is 2016 02:09:58,029 --> 02:10:03,729 actually only 27%. So right now, 73% of the teachers hired around the 2017 02:10:03,819 --> 02:10:08,380 state are alternative licensure, which is pretty wild. Things have changed a lot. 2018 02:10:08,409 --> 02:10:09,580 Talking about 10 years. 2019 02:10:09,999 --> 02:10:10,269 Yeah. 2020 02:10:10,749 --> 02:10:11,019 Right. 2021 02:10:11,259 --> 02:10:11,380 Yeah. 2022 02:10:11,409 --> 02:10:14,709 It's like it wasn't even an option for a while. 2023 02:10:15,099 --> 02:10:16,149 Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. 2024 02:10:16,209 --> 02:10:18,249 It was very strict and rigid if it was. 2025 02:10:18,339 --> 02:10:23,049 Yeah. And so now we're 50/50, so we're actually doing quite well compared to the 2026 02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:23,409 state. 2027 02:10:23,769 --> 02:10:23,919 Right. 2028 02:10:23,979 --> 02:10:24,249 Yeah. 2029 02:10:25,450 --> 02:10:27,489 Continue to hire classified staff, 2030 02:10:30,580 --> 02:10:32,769 filling vital roles across the district. 2031 02:10:34,509 --> 02:10:38,859 Early contracts, I'm not sure what this stuff is right there on there, but early 2032 02:10:38,919 --> 02:10:44,890 contracts, we had four last year. We hired four early contracts last year, and we 2033 02:10:44,919 --> 02:10:49,269 want to do more this year. And then finally, Internship to Impact. 2034 02:10:50,049 --> 02:10:54,849 That was a recruiting event we held last year. That was a big deal. 2035 02:10:54,909 --> 02:10:58,479 We're going to do another one of those, so we're going to do two this year, and 2036 02:10:58,509 --> 02:11:00,009 we're going to invite the universities again. 2037 02:11:01,059 --> 02:11:03,640 Typically, it's a big deal for the student teachers when they get to hear the 2038 02:11:03,700 --> 02:11:06,999 superintendent speak, and so we'll have Dr. Slate speaking. 2039 02:11:08,259 --> 02:11:13,809 I think it was this summer actually that we had someone we were hiring came in and 2040 02:11:13,839 --> 02:11:17,739 Dr. Slate was making the rounds around the office, and he just popped in and said 2041 02:11:17,799 --> 02:11:20,229 hey to them. And they were from another district. 2042 02:11:20,259 --> 02:11:22,509 They couldn't believe the superintendent had come in and talked to them. 2043 02:11:23,259 --> 02:11:23,469 So, 2044 02:11:25,179 --> 02:11:28,149 it's a big deal to some of these folks that the superintendent would care and would 2045 02:11:28,209 --> 02:11:33,099 take his time out of his day to speak to them. 2046 02:11:33,189 --> 02:11:39,159 So finally, retention. If you look at our numbers, these are our attrition data. 2047 02:11:40,659 --> 02:11:44,739 And you can see it goes back '23, '24, and '25. 2048 02:11:46,390 --> 02:11:51,759 And those are DCS averages. So attrition being people that leave us and go either 2049 02:11:51,819 --> 02:11:57,580 to another district or leave and go to retire, get another profession, whatever. 2050 02:11:58,239 --> 02:12:03,130 So the DCS attrition data, you see it, the lower the better obviously, because 2051 02:12:03,159 --> 02:12:08,559 that's 12% of those teachers leaving, 11% and 12%, compared to Piedmont 2052 02:12:08,649 --> 02:12:13,269 Triad and then compared to the LEA North Carolina rate. 2053 02:12:13,359 --> 02:12:13,479 So 2054 02:12:14,830 --> 02:12:17,620 as you look at the last three years, we're quite a bit better in all three of those 2055 02:12:17,709 --> 02:12:18,189 factors. 2056 02:12:21,399 --> 02:12:25,120 And for '24, '25, this comes from DPI's attrition rates. 2057 02:12:26,679 --> 02:12:32,109 They run this report in March typically of every year, so we'll get the '25, '26 2058 02:12:32,169 --> 02:12:33,249 data next year. 2059 02:12:34,569 --> 02:12:39,069 So you see where we're at. We were fifth out of all the school districts in the 2060 02:12:39,130 --> 02:12:40,120 Piedmont Triad, 2061 02:12:42,339 --> 02:12:45,939 which I thought was good. And you look as far as larger districts, 2062 02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:50,380 no district that's as large as us was ahead of us. 2063 02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:56,529 And that number obviously goes down, you can see quite a bit, to some of the 2064 02:12:56,589 --> 02:12:58,569 districts are losing quite a few folks. 2065 02:13:01,059 --> 02:13:02,649 But we are 12.8%. 2066 02:13:05,319 --> 02:13:10,089 And then teachers that moved to us from other districts, you see we got a lot of 2067 02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:11,559 folks from Winston-Salem/Forsyth 2068 02:13:13,599 --> 02:13:19,299 last year. We won Thomasville City, Randolph, Guilford, and there were several 2069 02:13:19,330 --> 02:13:21,399 districts that we got at least one person from. 2070 02:13:21,459 --> 02:13:27,130 The Winston-Salem/Forsyth, I'll be curious to see with the '25, '26 data how many 2071 02:13:27,159 --> 02:13:29,439 we got from Winston-Salem/Forsyth for next year. 2072 02:13:30,909 --> 02:13:32,289 You think it'll increase or decrease? 2073 02:13:33,009 --> 02:13:35,019 I wouldn't be surprised if it's higher, actually. 2074 02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:35,859 Yeah. 2075 02:13:40,509 --> 02:13:44,380 All right, and then the beginning teacher retention rate, over there to the side, 2076 02:13:44,469 --> 02:13:46,779 you see the DCS state attrition rate. 2077 02:13:48,189 --> 02:13:51,729 That's what the state's concerned with, and that means people that actually got out 2078 02:13:51,789 --> 02:13:52,599 of the profession- 2079 02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:53,409 Mm-hmm 2080 02:13:53,409 --> 02:13:54,669 ... and just left it completely. 2081 02:13:56,109 --> 02:13:59,950 And ours was 11.7%. The state's is 14.7. 2082 02:14:00,039 --> 02:14:02,049 So again, we're much lower than the state average, 2083 02:14:03,279 --> 02:14:05,019 and hopefully we'll continue to do that. 2084 02:14:05,109 --> 02:14:09,669 We don't have the state average for '25, '26 yet, but we'll get that in March of 2085 02:14:09,729 --> 02:14:10,359 next year. 2086 02:14:16,959 --> 02:14:18,099 All right, and finally, 2087 02:14:20,380 --> 02:14:21,969 leadership culture and support. 2088 02:14:23,169 --> 02:14:25,539 You'll see that the last one's our principal retention, 2089 02:14:27,069 --> 02:14:27,969 as you see there. 2090 02:14:29,409 --> 02:14:35,169 And principal retention obviously a key aspect of retention strategies. 2091 02:14:37,419 --> 02:14:40,359 One of the biggest indicators of teacher retention is the principal. 2092 02:14:40,419 --> 02:14:46,029 They play the biggest factor, and so I think that's a key thing as far as retention 2093 02:14:46,058 --> 02:14:50,799 strategies is that hiring, developing, and retaining high-performing principals is 2094 02:14:50,830 --> 02:14:55,630 a key piece of that. Recognition and appreciation of all district staff members, 2095 02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:59,979 and then the continued robust beginning teacher support program. 2096 02:15:02,289 --> 02:15:04,809 Any questions about our retention data, attrition data? 2097 02:15:05,830 --> 02:15:08,019 Under staff culture, what is the Emoji event? 2098 02:15:08,529 --> 02:15:09,880 I don't know. I was just looking at that too. 2099 02:15:09,939 --> 02:15:10,390 That's why I didn't- 2100 02:15:11,679 --> 02:15:13,330 I think it's just with your icons. 2101 02:15:13,659 --> 02:15:15,489 Yeah. I think it's just icons. Yeah. 2102 02:15:15,939 --> 02:15:18,399 Yeah, they converted your icons into emojis. 2103 02:15:18,489 --> 02:15:20,709 Any questions about attrition or retention? 2104 02:15:21,999 --> 02:15:22,899 Thank you, Dr. Hildreth. 2105 02:15:22,899 --> 02:15:23,080 Good job. 2106 02:15:23,109 --> 02:15:23,529 Thank you. 2107 02:15:23,769 --> 02:15:23,859 Yeah. 2108 02:15:24,130 --> 02:15:25,870 Appreciate it. Absolutely. 2109 02:15:30,189 --> 02:15:35,409 And if I may, real quick on what Dr. Hildreth covered, your student teachers. 2110 02:15:36,370 --> 02:15:38,739 Dr. Hildreth, thank you for that because 2111 02:15:41,469 --> 02:15:46,689 we have affiliation agreements with all these universities, and I review 2112 02:15:47,679 --> 02:15:53,469 all of them, I believe, to make sure it has the standard language that we 2113 02:15:53,559 --> 02:15:59,439 need and want in those agreements, and often wondered what our return on investment 2114 02:15:59,649 --> 02:16:03,249 was, and it seems significant. So I'm grateful for that. 2115 02:16:03,880 --> 02:16:04,029 Seems like the best. 2116 02:16:04,059 --> 02:16:04,299 Oh, yeah. 2117 02:16:04,330 --> 02:16:05,409 Seems like the most efficient, right? 2118 02:16:05,469 --> 02:16:08,049 Yeah. And I did not know that until now, so thank you. 2119 02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:11,169 And I will say to our educators, that's not only in education. 2120 02:16:11,259 --> 02:16:16,779 Hands-on approach is our largest means of employment outside of education as well, 2121 02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:20,769 so it's important that our students have hands-on opportunities to grow into those 2122 02:16:20,859 --> 02:16:22,539 roles that they're looking to accomplish. 2123 02:16:22,839 --> 02:16:23,080 Yep. 2124 02:16:25,809 --> 02:16:26,620 Mr. Johnston? 2125 02:16:30,099 --> 02:16:30,640 Hi, Priest. 2126 02:16:32,049 --> 02:16:34,839 Good evening, board, from operations again. 2127 02:16:35,019 --> 02:16:35,560 Our first 2128 02:16:36,790 --> 02:16:40,060 item this evening comes from Walburg Elementary School. 2129 02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:46,959 On behalf of Walburg Elementary School and the PTO, they're requesting to 2130 02:16:47,019 --> 02:16:52,630 purchase and install a digital sign from Burchett Sign Corporation at a cost of 2131 02:16:52,659 --> 02:16:58,359 $28,000. This purchase will be paid for by the Walburg PTO. 2132 02:16:59,319 --> 02:17:05,109 You should have in your packet some detailed information about that sign, 2133 02:17:05,259 --> 02:17:10,479 specs, and that kind of thing. And we have Principal John Bonventre here if you 2134 02:17:10,509 --> 02:17:12,040 have any specific questions. 2135 02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:18,459 Do we have the power and everything needed? 2136 02:17:18,790 --> 02:17:19,509 Yes, it's all there. 2137 02:17:19,599 --> 02:17:19,959 All there. 2138 02:17:20,349 --> 02:17:21,849 There's an illuminate sign already there. 2139 02:17:21,939 --> 02:17:24,609 Yeah, I knew there was a sign. I didn't know if it'd be enough to run that visual 2140 02:17:24,640 --> 02:17:25,029 board. 2141 02:17:28,677 --> 02:17:30,478 You can't beat that if it's the PTO. 2142 02:17:31,017 --> 02:17:33,387 Absolutely. No, yeah. Right. 2143 02:17:35,577 --> 02:17:36,718 Any questions on this? 2144 02:17:37,377 --> 02:17:39,027 In that situation, do you get more than one quote? 2145 02:17:40,107 --> 02:17:43,587 Yes. We actually, I think I was at five quotes. 2146 02:17:44,757 --> 02:17:49,048 That was obviously the best price, and the company that communicated well with us 2147 02:17:49,137 --> 02:17:55,017 as well. Like I say, the next best was about 31,000, and they ranged all the way to 2148 02:17:55,228 --> 02:17:56,157 41,000- 2149 02:17:56,427 --> 02:17:56,607 Wow 2150 02:17:56,607 --> 02:17:59,577 ... I believe one actually had it at 50,000. 2151 02:17:59,668 --> 02:18:00,478 For a very similar 2152 02:18:02,067 --> 02:18:02,247 product. 2153 02:18:02,337 --> 02:18:07,978 And the Burchette family are also Davidson County Schools alumni. 2154 02:18:08,427 --> 02:18:09,837 Thank you. 2155 02:18:09,927 --> 02:18:10,767 Yep, absolutely. 2156 02:18:13,798 --> 02:18:18,057 Board, you've heard Mr. Johnson's request for Burchette Signs at a cost of 2157 02:18:18,057 --> 02:18:20,548 $28,350 2158 02:18:24,567 --> 02:18:30,087 paid with the PTO to purchase an illuminated new LED 2159 02:18:30,207 --> 02:18:32,548 sign. Do I have a motion to approve this request? 2160 02:18:32,728 --> 02:18:33,507 I'll make a motion. 2161 02:18:33,597 --> 02:18:34,197 I'll second. 2162 02:18:34,677 --> 02:18:36,927 Shabicha, Sherry will second. All in favor? 2163 02:18:38,218 --> 02:18:40,137 Good deal. Thank you for being here tonight. 2164 02:18:40,197 --> 02:18:40,287 Thank you. 2165 02:18:40,287 --> 02:18:41,247 Yes, absolutely. 2166 02:18:44,548 --> 02:18:48,478 Our next item, board, comes from North Davidson High School. 2167 02:18:48,537 --> 02:18:54,447 This is an easement request from Duke Energy for the installation and 2168 02:18:54,478 --> 02:18:57,207 the maintenance of electrical transformers. 2169 02:18:58,197 --> 02:19:03,148 So if you'll just walk through, first of all, you have an easement document, 2170 02:19:04,197 --> 02:19:10,168 and then behind the easement document, you'll have a map of the area 2171 02:19:11,187 --> 02:19:15,597 that we're speaking of. And what you have there, and I'll turn my notebook around 2172 02:19:15,657 --> 02:19:19,738 so I can read it, you have several items there. 2173 02:19:19,798 --> 02:19:21,027 First of all, you have existing 2174 02:19:22,887 --> 02:19:28,767 transformers, you have existing underground lines, and so the goal 2175 02:19:28,857 --> 02:19:34,407 here is to replace the existing lines with new lines, 2176 02:19:34,918 --> 02:19:39,447 and then to also remove a transformer and then add a transformer. 2177 02:19:40,707 --> 02:19:45,418 So this is a request coming from Duke Energy to make these changes. 2178 02:19:45,478 --> 02:19:49,107 We don't have a timeline on that. What we'll do is we'll get this back to Duke 2179 02:19:49,197 --> 02:19:53,397 Energy, and then we'll work with the school schedule on when's the best time to 2180 02:19:53,427 --> 02:19:57,177 conduct this work. And of course, as you read the easement, the 2181 02:19:58,437 --> 02:20:03,747 goal is that they'll return everything back to normal before the job is completed. 2182 02:20:09,177 --> 02:20:10,197 Any questions on this? 2183 02:20:11,187 --> 02:20:12,418 Just outdated equipment? 2184 02:20:12,957 --> 02:20:13,437 Yes, sir. 2185 02:20:14,668 --> 02:20:15,988 Underground line and equipment. 2186 02:20:18,777 --> 02:20:23,007 Board, you've heard Mr. Johnson's request for an easement at North Davidson High 2187 02:20:23,067 --> 02:20:27,357 School from Duke Energy. Do I have a motion to approve this request? 2188 02:20:28,377 --> 02:20:29,067 I make a motion. 2189 02:20:29,907 --> 02:20:30,507 Do I have a second? 2190 02:20:30,988 --> 02:20:31,347 Second. 2191 02:20:31,977 --> 02:20:32,697 All in favor? 2192 02:20:34,617 --> 02:20:36,147 Good deal. Thank you. 2193 02:20:38,637 --> 02:20:43,047 All right. Thank you, board. Our next item comes from, again, North Davidson Middle 2194 02:20:43,137 --> 02:20:46,947 School. This is the chiller replacement project. 2195 02:20:47,367 --> 02:20:49,497 We request your approval to award 2196 02:20:50,697 --> 02:20:56,577 Superior Mechanical Services to complete the work there at North Davidson Middle 2197 02:20:56,637 --> 02:21:02,427 School. The bid price is $136,575, and that will be 2198 02:21:02,488 --> 02:21:06,897 paid using capital funds. In your packet, you should have a letter of 2199 02:21:06,957 --> 02:21:10,767 recommendation from CES. This job, like all our jobs, 2200 02:21:12,238 --> 02:21:16,137 we had that as advertised, and then we had a public bid opening. 2201 02:21:16,827 --> 02:21:22,287 And there on the next page, you see the bid tabulation that was created by CES as a 2202 02:21:22,317 --> 02:21:27,057 result of that bid opening. And again, our request 2203 02:21:27,177 --> 02:21:31,557 is to award this to Superior Mechanical Services. 2204 02:21:36,507 --> 02:21:39,687 Any questions for Mr. Johnson on this? The board have heard Mr. 2205 02:21:39,867 --> 02:21:40,857 Johnson's request to 2206 02:21:42,238 --> 02:21:42,837 award- 2207 02:21:46,497 --> 02:21:47,247 Superior. 2208 02:21:47,457 --> 02:21:48,927 Superior Mechanical Services. 2209 02:21:48,988 --> 02:21:54,807 Superior Mechanical Services at a cost of $136,575 2210 02:21:55,467 --> 02:21:59,397 paid using capital funds to replace a chiller at North Davidson Middle School. 2211 02:21:59,427 --> 02:22:01,107 Do I have a motion to approve this request? 2212 02:22:01,377 --> 02:22:02,157 I'll make a motion. 2213 02:22:02,397 --> 02:22:02,967 I'll second. 2214 02:22:03,447 --> 02:22:04,047 All in favor? 2215 02:22:05,997 --> 02:22:10,707 All right. Thank you, board. Our next item comes from Transportation Department 2216 02:22:11,007 --> 02:22:14,727 this evening. We have our Director of Transportation, Brad Sweatman. 2217 02:22:14,757 --> 02:22:18,897 He's going to talk to you a little bit about routing and tier scheduling, so I'll 2218 02:22:18,927 --> 02:22:21,238 turn it over to Mr. Sweatman at this time. 2219 02:22:25,617 --> 02:22:27,447 Good evening, board members and Dr. Slate. 2220 02:22:27,988 --> 02:22:31,918 Thank you all for allowing me here to review Davidson County Schools' bus routes, 2221 02:22:32,457 --> 02:22:38,337 the data that we pass on to DPI, how that data impacts our funding, and a potential 2222 02:22:38,427 --> 02:22:41,727 option that our routing department will begin work on over the next few weeks. 2223 02:22:42,597 --> 02:22:46,168 So to start off with just some general data about our fleet. 2224 02:22:46,617 --> 02:22:50,997 Davidson County Schools currently utilizes 176 route buses. 2225 02:22:51,418 --> 02:22:56,817 We have 158 regular education buses with an additional 18 EC 2226 02:22:57,207 --> 02:23:02,877 buses. We also maintain 27 route buses for Thomasville City Schools and Lexington 2227 02:23:02,937 --> 02:23:08,668 City Schools. As of this past Friday, we have 9,957 students 2228 02:23:08,697 --> 02:23:14,668 assigned to Davidson County School buses, 9,727 of those on our regular 2229 02:23:14,847 --> 02:23:18,207 education buses and 230 on our EC buses. 2230 02:23:19,467 --> 02:23:24,627 Currently, this week, we are conducting our TD2 student ridership count. 2231 02:23:25,168 --> 02:23:30,717 This is an important report that we collect for DPI that plays a tremendous 2232 02:23:30,807 --> 02:23:35,277 impact on our funding. This is an actual snapshot of our student riders for this 2233 02:23:35,337 --> 02:23:36,087 particular week. 2234 02:23:37,407 --> 02:23:42,657 We also currently utilize nearly 40 buses that run multiple runs. 2235 02:23:42,837 --> 02:23:48,507 So we are kind of trying to take advantage of a tiered system already, but we are 2236 02:23:48,567 --> 02:23:52,767 very limited on the time we have in the afternoon to utilize any more than 40 2237 02:23:52,827 --> 02:23:57,687 buses. And often those buses will arrive a little bit later than dismissal times 2238 02:23:57,687 --> 02:23:59,967 for our middle school and high school students. 2239 02:24:01,257 --> 02:24:05,307 To give you an overview on how our routing department works, we utilize a 2240 02:24:05,367 --> 02:24:10,287 DPI-supported Transportation Information Management System, this is TIMS, to build 2241 02:24:10,317 --> 02:24:16,137 and maintain bus routing data. TIMS allows DCS route specialists to route buses 2242 02:24:16,227 --> 02:24:18,207 efficiently and safely as possible. 2243 02:24:19,047 --> 02:24:24,207 The use of TIMS also gives DCS transportation personnel access to DPI support staff 2244 02:24:24,297 --> 02:24:26,697 based at UNC Charlotte and NC State. 2245 02:24:27,357 --> 02:24:30,238 These folks are the folks that we call when we have issues. 2246 02:24:30,597 --> 02:24:34,197 They also can look at our data and help us in many different ways if we have 2247 02:24:34,287 --> 02:24:37,767 questions with a particular route or issues with the TIMS system. 2248 02:24:38,457 --> 02:24:43,227 They also give new folks that we hire in the routing department additional training 2249 02:24:43,317 --> 02:24:48,357 on the TIMS routing software. TDTIMS is the annual DPI report required by all 2250 02:24:48,418 --> 02:24:53,607 districts, and this is also another report that we turn in late fall that goes into 2251 02:24:53,668 --> 02:24:55,197 the model for our funding. 2252 02:24:56,397 --> 02:25:01,617 TIMS will be utilized to create bus routes to support a tiered bell system, and 2253 02:25:01,797 --> 02:25:07,467 this also gives us the potential option to benefit many aspects of our bus 2254 02:25:07,587 --> 02:25:08,217 operations. 2255 02:25:09,447 --> 02:25:13,827 Just to go over some benefits and considerations that we view with the tiered bell 2256 02:25:13,887 --> 02:25:18,597 schedule. First off, successful tiered bells transportation plans require an 2257 02:25:18,717 --> 02:25:22,827 adequate time span between bell times for the best efficiency. 2258 02:25:23,607 --> 02:25:29,277 We prefer a 45-minute to one-hour time span because this will allow the majority of 2259 02:25:29,307 --> 02:25:32,367 our fleet to be utilized for both tiered times. 2260 02:25:33,087 --> 02:25:36,837 The benefits, more efficient use of district bus fleet. 2261 02:25:37,527 --> 02:25:43,197 This is typically the idea that you use less buses to transport the same number of 2262 02:25:43,257 --> 02:25:47,607 students, and in turn, that will positively impact our state funding formula. 2263 02:25:48,567 --> 02:25:51,867 State funding for transportation is based heavily on efficiency. 2264 02:25:52,287 --> 02:25:56,517 So the more efficient you are, the more of your eligible expenses that you will 2265 02:25:56,547 --> 02:25:58,407 receive from DPI. 2266 02:25:59,697 --> 02:26:03,537 A reduction in student ride times at all levels due to more buses being used for 2267 02:26:03,597 --> 02:26:07,497 each bell time. This might sound counterintuitive, but you actually reduce your 2268 02:26:07,557 --> 02:26:11,037 fleet, but it does give you the opportunity to throw more buses at each tiered 2269 02:26:11,097 --> 02:26:14,488 schedule to help with times for students. 2270 02:26:15,477 --> 02:26:18,567 And then lastly, increased bus driver recruitment and retention. 2271 02:26:19,077 --> 02:26:23,997 This typically means that more hours are guaranteed to our bus drivers, as well as 2272 02:26:24,027 --> 02:26:25,918 potential eligibility for benefits. 2273 02:26:26,517 --> 02:26:29,937 We are currently dealing with a few locations that are having to 2274 02:26:31,227 --> 02:26:36,627 double route right now. So they are lacking the drivers they need, and they might 2275 02:26:36,657 --> 02:26:41,547 have drivers out sick that they can't find a replacement for and are pulling from 2276 02:26:41,607 --> 02:26:43,257 multiple different schools in the area. 2277 02:26:43,977 --> 02:26:48,777 And particularly in our north area with the way our boundaries lie, a lot of those 2278 02:26:48,837 --> 02:26:52,017 elementaries are supporting multiple middle and highs with their sub drivers 2279 02:26:53,319 --> 02:26:55,060 Some considerations to take into account. 2280 02:26:56,080 --> 02:27:00,939 A tiered schedule will have impacts on family scheduling around the new bell times, 2281 02:27:01,269 --> 02:27:03,549 whether it be bus stop times or potential childcare. 2282 02:27:03,999 --> 02:27:08,349 We also have a pre-K through third policy about drop-off, where if they don't have 2283 02:27:08,529 --> 02:27:11,019 a signed form, we do not drop those students off. 2284 02:27:12,039 --> 02:27:15,519 Route buses will generate preventive maintenance orders quicker due to higher 2285 02:27:15,580 --> 02:27:20,709 miles. DPI, all of our buses are in a software that monitors miles, 2286 02:27:21,279 --> 02:27:26,080 and those miles trigger preventive maintenance orders at certain intervals. 2287 02:27:26,289 --> 02:27:29,799 So if your buses are running more miles, those preventive maintenance orders will 2288 02:27:29,830 --> 02:27:34,149 come in quicker. Breakdowns will impact bus runs for the next bell time. 2289 02:27:34,599 --> 02:27:39,969 Obviously, if you've got a route behind another route, if a bus breaks down, we'll 2290 02:27:40,029 --> 02:27:43,359 have to-- That time for all those other students will be pushed back until we get a 2291 02:27:43,419 --> 02:27:47,259 spare bus or that bus can be fixed. And then lastly, our fueling routes may need to 2292 02:27:47,289 --> 02:27:50,979 be adjusted to accommodate an increase in mileage per day for some buses. 2293 02:27:51,580 --> 02:27:54,879 So, all right. And now let's talk about funding. 2294 02:27:55,959 --> 02:27:58,419 Funding for transportation is a little complicated. 2295 02:27:59,379 --> 02:28:02,560 It's mostly built around efficiency and eligible expenses. 2296 02:28:03,009 --> 02:28:07,179 Our eligible expenses are our bus parts, our fuel, our driver pay. 2297 02:28:08,140 --> 02:28:11,349 As many of you know, fuel has increased tremendously. 2298 02:28:12,429 --> 02:28:18,249 I believe we had fuel rates of $5.10 to $5.40 a gallon last 2299 02:28:18,310 --> 02:28:20,830 week. So we had two deliveries last week. 2300 02:28:21,369 --> 02:28:26,499 So we're anticipating nearly an $80,000 bill in fuel next week or for this past 2301 02:28:26,529 --> 02:28:31,629 week. DPI utilizes a series of reports the districts complete to determine our 2302 02:28:31,689 --> 02:28:35,529 eligible expenses, our fleet data, and our student transportation data. 2303 02:28:35,979 --> 02:28:39,580 These all range from TD1, TD2, TD2R. 2304 02:28:40,390 --> 02:28:43,060 TD stands for Transportation Department, if you're curious. 2305 02:28:44,049 --> 02:28:48,609 But all of these go into the budget simulator and model that DPI uses to generate 2306 02:28:48,699 --> 02:28:53,739 our allotment. Districts with higher efficiency ratings receive a larger portion of 2307 02:28:53,739 --> 02:28:59,469 the DPI state allotment. Currently, we sit at 95.47% efficient, 2308 02:28:59,919 --> 02:29:04,899 which is pretty good, but we also have Thomasville City Schools and Lexington City 2309 02:29:04,959 --> 02:29:09,219 Schools in our data. So all of our data is combined, and it generates an efficiency 2310 02:29:09,249 --> 02:29:13,299 for all three districts that are equal between them for their particular allotment. 2311 02:29:13,929 --> 02:29:17,529 Thomasville City Schools and Lexington City Schools receive an allotment, but it 2312 02:29:17,560 --> 02:29:20,529 doesn't count for the fuel or the maintenance of the buses. 2313 02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:26,499 Theirs are more so for driver pay and other things that account for those drivers. 2314 02:29:28,089 --> 02:29:33,039 A tiered bus routing would increase this percentage and allow DCS to receive a 2315 02:29:33,069 --> 02:29:34,779 greater portion of our allotment. 2316 02:29:35,140 --> 02:29:40,689 So just a 3% to 4% would be very beneficial with a multimillion-dollar budget from 2317 02:29:40,719 --> 02:29:45,969 DPI. So just the 3% to 4% of that allotment is a considerable amount and would pay 2318 02:29:45,999 --> 02:29:47,169 for quite a few weeks of fuel. 2319 02:29:50,229 --> 02:29:53,649 And then lastly, what are our goals with a tiered bell schedule? 2320 02:29:54,640 --> 02:29:59,049 An accurate assessment of a DCS tiered bell bus plan will require the building and 2321 02:29:59,109 --> 02:30:01,659 optimization of routes in the TIMS routing system. 2322 02:30:02,109 --> 02:30:05,708 So our folks are going to take careful time. They're going to build these routes. 2323 02:30:05,979 --> 02:30:09,729 They're going to look at them, make sure they're safe, make sure our students-- No 2324 02:30:09,819 --> 02:30:13,659 changes are made to these routes that would impact student safety. 2325 02:30:14,919 --> 02:30:19,659 Per conversations with DPI staff and in-house assessments, a greater than 20% 2326 02:30:19,689 --> 02:30:21,609 reduction in our bus fleet is possible. 2327 02:30:22,719 --> 02:30:26,979 The one area that I would not see this increase truly possible would be our EC 2328 02:30:27,069 --> 02:30:32,709 fleet. They already travel such great distances and cover so many school 2329 02:30:32,769 --> 02:30:38,140 boundaries, from one student having to cross potentially maybe Churchland over to 2330 02:30:38,199 --> 02:30:43,989 Fairgrove or somewhere in the south area up towards East Davidson or even 2331 02:30:44,049 --> 02:30:48,459 further. So there's a lot of our EC fleet that those 18 buses have such a 2332 02:30:48,519 --> 02:30:53,890 complicated, overlapping network of bus routes that any kind of modification to 2333 02:30:53,949 --> 02:30:58,299 them would take a considerable effort, and we don't really want to impact those 2334 02:30:58,359 --> 02:31:01,089 students' ride times as they already are. 2335 02:31:01,149 --> 02:31:05,560 So I don't see us dropping too many buses for EC because I don't want to impact 2336 02:31:06,099 --> 02:31:09,310 those students in any way. 2337 02:31:10,839 --> 02:31:13,509 We could potentially expand on the number of our door side stops. 2338 02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:16,299 We have multiple roads that we 2339 02:31:17,739 --> 02:31:21,999 know that we're not going to do a crossing stop. Just for instance, 109. 2340 02:31:22,509 --> 02:31:26,799 We are going to do our best and utmost, everything we can to not make a crossing 2341 02:31:26,859 --> 02:31:28,569 stop. I don't even think we have a crossing stop. 2342 02:31:28,629 --> 02:31:31,599 But our route specialists know that that's a road that you're going to make door 2343 02:31:31,659 --> 02:31:33,069 side, or you're going to go into a neighborhood. 2344 02:31:33,580 --> 02:31:37,239 So if you have more buses that you can throw to an area, then you can potentially 2345 02:31:37,299 --> 02:31:40,449 make some of these roads that you might only have one bus going up, you could have 2346 02:31:40,479 --> 02:31:43,899 maybe one going one direction, one going another, so you can create more door side 2347 02:31:43,959 --> 02:31:44,319 stops. 2348 02:31:45,580 --> 02:31:48,519 We hope to reduce the average ride time for most bus riders. 2349 02:31:48,879 --> 02:31:53,259 Again, we're throwing more buses at each tier, so hopefully those ride times will 2350 02:31:53,319 --> 02:31:55,209 come down because you're utilizing more buses. 2351 02:31:55,839 --> 02:31:58,479 And this will also potentially help with any crowding issues. 2352 02:31:59,169 --> 02:32:04,689 We have our 72-capacity buses. That's all of our fleet right now is 72 capacity, 2353 02:32:05,019 --> 02:32:09,519 and that's elementary. If you throw middle and high on, that capacity drops down to 2354 02:32:10,539 --> 02:32:12,609 just right around 50, if not a little bit lower. 2355 02:32:13,179 --> 02:32:15,279 So we've got to be careful on our capacity numbers. 2356 02:32:15,310 --> 02:32:20,409 And in some areas, that might take up one or two stops, particularly in the High 2357 02:32:20,499 --> 02:32:25,179 Point area. If you go up there, and we might have a Lepper bus that picks up three 2358 02:32:25,239 --> 02:32:26,859 stops, and the bus is full already. 2359 02:32:27,789 --> 02:32:31,959 And then lastly, we want to help reduce the number of buses per mechanic. 2360 02:32:32,499 --> 02:32:36,640 Currently, we have eight mechanics. We are down mechanics at this time. 2361 02:32:36,969 --> 02:32:40,390 So anything we can do to reduce the number of buses that they're having to cover 2362 02:32:40,419 --> 02:32:45,729 would be super beneficial for us. They would take on a number of park status buses 2363 02:32:45,849 --> 02:32:50,619 if we were to park buses after this, but those buses can be used for spare buses, 2364 02:32:51,009 --> 02:32:54,279 and eventually they are incorporated into the fleet with self-replacement. 2365 02:32:55,179 --> 02:32:58,299 So with that, I'd like to thank you for your time and your consideration of this 2366 02:32:58,390 --> 02:33:01,330 option in the future. And if anyone had any questions, I'd be more than happy to 2367 02:33:01,359 --> 02:33:02,379 help answer them. 2368 02:33:03,369 --> 02:33:07,179 I have just one quick question from the previous page on funding from DPI. 2369 02:33:07,269 --> 02:33:07,449 Yeah. 2370 02:33:09,279 --> 02:33:13,239 Is it a combined efficiency rate of 95.47 with the other two? 2371 02:33:13,810 --> 02:33:18,489 And if that's the case, I know you differentiated part of that. You broke it out. 2372 02:33:19,779 --> 02:33:24,640 Is there anything that we can do to help them help us in that efficiency, since it 2373 02:33:24,819 --> 02:33:25,539 affects funding? 2374 02:33:25,869 --> 02:33:30,099 Yeah. Everything's combined. This week with the student ridership count, their 2375 02:33:30,129 --> 02:33:34,719 numbers are combined with ours as well for when they go into the budget formula for 2376 02:33:34,749 --> 02:33:40,269 DPI. So their efficiency, they actually might be more efficient 2377 02:33:40,390 --> 02:33:44,589 on if you were just to pull them out with their numbers because they're using less 2378 02:33:44,649 --> 02:33:49,869 buses in a smaller area. So they have the capacity to run those buses through an 2379 02:33:49,899 --> 02:33:53,499 area multiple times and pick more students up, whereas we have the difficulties of 2380 02:33:53,529 --> 02:33:54,879 geography on our side. 2381 02:33:54,909 --> 02:33:56,439 So they're actually looking better on their numbers? 2382 02:33:56,560 --> 02:34:01,479 Yes. And I know Thomasville just parked five buses this past year, so their numbers 2383 02:34:01,539 --> 02:34:05,080 will look significantly more improved than the previous year as well. 2384 02:34:05,409 --> 02:34:06,879 So they're actually helping our numbers. 2385 02:34:06,969 --> 02:34:07,810 Absolutely, yes. 2386 02:34:11,739 --> 02:34:12,640 Any other questions? 2387 02:34:14,379 --> 02:34:14,919 Okay. 2388 02:34:14,949 --> 02:34:18,849 Well, thank you, and hopefully we'll have you a good plan to look at in the near 2389 02:34:18,909 --> 02:34:19,239 future. 2390 02:34:20,409 --> 02:34:21,099 Thank you, Brian. 2391 02:34:22,390 --> 02:34:23,890 Can I ask an operations question? 2392 02:34:23,949 --> 02:34:24,369 Yeah. 2393 02:34:24,429 --> 02:34:29,319 Sorry. It's going back to the chiller plant. It's not related to buses. 2394 02:34:29,409 --> 02:34:30,759 I know we've already voted on that. 2395 02:34:30,819 --> 02:34:35,289 But with that being an emergency replacement, I guess I'm just trying to understand 2396 02:34:35,319 --> 02:34:36,580 what does that timeline look like? 2397 02:34:37,689 --> 02:34:42,159 Does it go through the same normal process to get quotes and that kind of thing, it 2398 02:34:42,219 --> 02:34:43,539 being an emergency? 2399 02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:49,869 No. North Davidson chiller, we had to bid out the chiller itself. 2400 02:34:50,080 --> 02:34:50,499 Right. 2401 02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:53,469 And then we had to bid out the contractor. 2402 02:34:53,919 --> 02:34:58,899 But I guess the turnaround time is still the same, even though it's considered an 2403 02:34:58,959 --> 02:35:01,719 emergency project, is what I'm asking. 2404 02:35:02,379 --> 02:35:04,959 So, I mean, we're ready to hit the ground running getting it installed. 2405 02:35:05,289 --> 02:35:05,769 Absolutely. 2406 02:35:06,009 --> 02:35:09,489 I think what she's saying, is there a differentiator between those that are working 2407 02:35:09,549 --> 02:35:12,099 that we maybe just need to replace because it ages up- 2408 02:35:12,099 --> 02:35:12,099 Those 2409 02:35:12,159 --> 02:35:16,449 ... and those where we've got a flatbed trailer with a temporary 2410 02:35:18,310 --> 02:35:22,060 chiller set up in an emergency setting like we have at North Davidson? 2411 02:35:22,179 --> 02:35:24,640 Is it the same process, or do you have 2412 02:35:26,890 --> 02:35:27,789 ability to- 2413 02:35:28,209 --> 02:35:29,019 Yeah, because I didn't 2414 02:35:29,080 --> 02:35:29,499 Accelerate 2415 02:35:29,529 --> 02:35:29,830 ... accelerate that? 2416 02:35:29,890 --> 02:35:30,249 Okay. 2417 02:35:30,849 --> 02:35:32,019 Is that what you're asking, Ms. Eernerman? 2418 02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:32,229 Yeah. 2419 02:35:32,259 --> 02:35:34,569 Yeah, we bought the chiller through a cooperative. 2420 02:35:35,019 --> 02:35:35,140 Uh-huh. 2421 02:35:35,409 --> 02:35:36,310 Omni Cooperative. 2422 02:35:36,310 --> 02:35:36,609 We did accelerate- 2423 02:35:36,729 --> 02:35:37,029 We did, yes 2424 02:35:37,060 --> 02:35:39,939 ... the actual purchase of a chiller because they were on a state contract. 2425 02:35:39,939 --> 02:35:40,330 That's right. 2426 02:35:40,869 --> 02:35:44,949 And actually what the law, believe it or not, says if you have a chiller or your 2427 02:35:45,009 --> 02:35:46,089 system fails, 2428 02:35:47,289 --> 02:35:52,869 even if it's 100 degrees, that does not really constitute an emergency 2429 02:35:54,465 --> 02:35:59,535 Usually an emergency is associated with an- Mm-hmm ... act of- Natural disaster ... 2430 02:35:59,625 --> 02:36:01,785 natural disaster. I mean, if a tornado came through- Right ... 2431 02:36:01,815 --> 02:36:02,535 and destroyed it, that's- 2432 02:36:02,625 --> 02:36:03,765 But just a unit going down- 2433 02:36:03,855 --> 02:36:06,015 Again, the compliance side of it 2434 02:36:06,015 --> 02:36:07,725 ... that's not deemed an emergency to circumvent the process 2435 02:36:07,756 --> 02:36:08,535 The laws would say that's correct. 2436 02:36:09,975 --> 02:36:12,615 But we did find a little way around that with the state- 2437 02:36:12,645 --> 02:36:13,845 Expedited. Okay. 2438 02:36:14,745 --> 02:36:14,955 Thank you. 2439 02:36:15,015 --> 02:36:17,026 I get what you're saying, because that should... Right. 2440 02:36:17,026 --> 02:36:17,415 Right. 2441 02:36:17,445 --> 02:36:20,625 It's a little different than being proactive and changing things out before they 2442 02:36:20,685 --> 02:36:20,925 break. 2443 02:36:20,955 --> 02:36:21,825 Well, again, that's not a declared emergency- Right 2444 02:36:21,855 --> 02:36:21,975 Yeah 2445 02:36:21,975 --> 02:36:23,115 ... but the law says it's not. 2446 02:36:23,445 --> 02:36:23,745 Got you. 2447 02:36:24,105 --> 02:36:25,006 Unfortunately. Thank you. 2448 02:36:25,515 --> 02:36:27,825 Thank you. Dr. Greer. 2449 02:36:31,155 --> 02:36:32,055 Good evening. 2450 02:36:34,425 --> 02:36:35,115 You want the clicker? Oh, it's down here. 2451 02:36:35,205 --> 02:36:38,925 Okay. I realize I'm the only thing standing between you and dinner, so I'll keep 2452 02:36:38,985 --> 02:36:41,685 that in mind as I'm going through my two items tonight. 2453 02:36:42,526 --> 02:36:47,535 So my first is a data review of our student support services data that we collect. 2454 02:36:49,545 --> 02:36:52,725 We did this last year, I think, for the first time, and we're just going to go 2455 02:36:52,756 --> 02:36:57,885 through and look at some specific data points that we've collected from our school 2456 02:36:57,915 --> 02:37:01,965 counselors, our social workers, and then other student support staff in our 2457 02:37:02,026 --> 02:37:07,845 schools. So, we're going to begin with our K-5 bullying online reporting 2458 02:37:07,905 --> 02:37:12,345 form. You can see the last three years' worth of data here, and the color coding 2459 02:37:12,405 --> 02:37:15,915 might seem a little backwards, but if it's green, that means we had a decrease, 2460 02:37:16,006 --> 02:37:20,295 which is positive, and if it's red, we had an increase, which would be considered 2461 02:37:20,355 --> 02:37:25,725 not so positive. So looking at our K-5 reporting form, we only had three for last 2462 02:37:25,725 --> 02:37:29,535 school year, which is a positive. That is down two from the previous year. 2463 02:37:30,134 --> 02:37:35,565 Our 6-12 SSARS reports, we did have an increase, but not by a significant 2464 02:37:35,625 --> 02:37:38,776 amount. We were up to 379 versus 370. 2465 02:37:39,165 --> 02:37:42,405 That is still a decrease from our 23-24 school year. 2466 02:37:42,975 --> 02:37:47,655 And then looking at our Gaggle reports, we had about 856, which is a pretty sizable 2467 02:37:47,745 --> 02:37:52,365 decrease from our over 1,000 from the previous year or so. 2468 02:37:54,405 --> 02:37:58,276 Just as a reminder, the SSARS reports, that is our Say Something Anonymous 2469 02:37:58,336 --> 02:38:02,415 Reporting System, where students can go in and report bullying or concerns that 2470 02:38:02,445 --> 02:38:06,526 they have with peers or sometimes staff in their school buildings. 2471 02:38:07,006 --> 02:38:11,235 And then the Gaggle reports come directly from our email system and Google 2472 02:38:11,595 --> 02:38:17,565 platform. That is where specific phrases and tags are flagged and then sent to 2473 02:38:17,625 --> 02:38:19,725 us to investigate what's being said. 2474 02:38:22,545 --> 02:38:27,165 The next slide, you will see our PowerSchool/Infinite Campus, because we changed 2475 02:38:27,256 --> 02:38:31,065 last year to Infinite Campus. Looking at our discipline reports, you'll see the 2476 02:38:31,215 --> 02:38:35,506 23-24 cumulatives, and then 24-25, and then this past year, 2477 02:38:36,435 --> 02:38:39,855 25-26. So the first thing that you'll notice, and I'm going to come back to this 2478 02:38:39,915 --> 02:38:45,825 part, is a significant drop in our total number of reports from 14,000 and 2479 02:38:45,855 --> 02:38:48,855 then 12,000, and this past year, we had 5,000. 2480 02:38:49,425 --> 02:38:51,225 So I'm going to talk about that in just a second. 2481 02:38:51,285 --> 02:38:54,645 But first, you can see the breakdown there of the specific categories. 2482 02:38:54,735 --> 02:38:58,756 There are lots more categories that are included in these reports, but these are 2483 02:38:58,785 --> 02:39:02,715 the ones that we discuss at our monthly K-12 meetings because these are the most 2484 02:39:02,776 --> 02:39:05,026 prevalent behaviors that we're seeing across schools. 2485 02:39:05,805 --> 02:39:09,914 Specifically looking at our higher numbers, you can see we have fights, some 2486 02:39:09,975 --> 02:39:14,836 aggressive behavior, inappropriate behavior, disruptive behavior, and then, of 2487 02:39:14,895 --> 02:39:17,295 course, looking at our vaping down there at the bottom. 2488 02:39:17,595 --> 02:39:22,245 Again, all of these are in the green because they are all decreased from the 2489 02:39:22,276 --> 02:39:26,506 previous year, pretty significantly, and so I do want to talk about that. 2490 02:39:27,526 --> 02:39:33,375 We had a 59.1% decrease, with 7,454 fewer discipline reports 2491 02:39:33,405 --> 02:39:36,195 this past year than in the previous years. 2492 02:39:36,915 --> 02:39:42,855 But as I've shared with our cabinet and then with our K-12 principals, when I'm out 2493 02:39:42,915 --> 02:39:46,515 visiting schools and when I'm talking with counselors and our social workers, one 2494 02:39:46,545 --> 02:39:49,605 of the biggest hot topics that we talk about is student behavior. 2495 02:39:50,086 --> 02:39:52,965 That comes through my department quite a lot, and so when I look at this 2496 02:39:52,995 --> 02:39:57,795 information, it makes me question, "Why did we have such a huge drop in behavior?" 2497 02:39:58,785 --> 02:40:01,815 I would love to say that it's because of all the wonderful things we're doing to 2498 02:40:01,845 --> 02:40:06,526 prevent behavior and to increase our restorative practices in our schools. 2499 02:40:07,336 --> 02:40:11,026 But I think there's some other factors at play here, and one of those is in talking 2500 02:40:11,086 --> 02:40:14,115 with our principals. I think that we have varied 2501 02:40:15,526 --> 02:40:19,215 data collection methods happening across the district in terms of what's being 2502 02:40:19,305 --> 02:40:24,195 entered into Infinite Campus for a major discipline referral versus a minor 2503 02:40:24,285 --> 02:40:28,725 referral. In speaking with some of our high school principals, they have a 2504 02:40:28,785 --> 02:40:31,965 different category for what is considered a major and then what they say is a 2505 02:40:32,026 --> 02:40:36,975 minor. So in some of our high schools, they input absolutely every single incident 2506 02:40:37,006 --> 02:40:41,115 that happens at the school. In others, they're inputting the major ones, and then 2507 02:40:41,145 --> 02:40:44,475 they have a separate notebook of all of the minor incidents that they do not feel 2508 02:40:44,506 --> 02:40:47,506 like qualifies as a major to be put into Infinite Campus. 2509 02:40:47,625 --> 02:40:52,336 So, what that has prompted is that we need some calibration across the district in 2510 02:40:52,395 --> 02:40:56,836 making sure that we are doing it the same at every school, whichever way that's 2511 02:40:56,865 --> 02:41:00,405 going to be. However we categorize a major and a minor, that's not something that 2512 02:41:00,465 --> 02:41:04,575 we have really defined in a while. So we need to come back to that and make sure 2513 02:41:04,635 --> 02:41:08,745 that across the district we are putting in the same type of incidents, so that when 2514 02:41:08,776 --> 02:41:11,955 we look at the data, it's accurate as to what's actually happening across our 2515 02:41:11,985 --> 02:41:14,985 school districts. So that will be happening this year. 2516 02:41:15,075 --> 02:41:18,075 That is on our list to talk about behavior and try to figure out how to make that 2517 02:41:18,105 --> 02:41:18,375 better. 2518 02:41:19,756 --> 02:41:22,485 There is a link there. I'm not sure if you have that in your packet or not. 2519 02:41:22,545 --> 02:41:24,165 If you don't, I'll be sure to get that to you. 2520 02:41:24,225 --> 02:41:28,185 But the link takes you to our feeder pattern data comparisons. 2521 02:41:28,215 --> 02:41:32,685 That's something new that we did this year in terms of looking at specific feeder 2522 02:41:32,776 --> 02:41:35,776 patterns for each elementary school, and then to the middle school, and then to the 2523 02:41:35,836 --> 02:41:39,345 high school. Is the data that we're seeing calibrated at that level? 2524 02:41:39,435 --> 02:41:41,865 And what we've noticed is sometimes there it's not as well. 2525 02:41:41,925 --> 02:41:46,276 We will look at our elementary schools that may have 500 incidents, and then all of 2526 02:41:46,305 --> 02:41:49,215 those elementary school kids go to middle school, and we have 80 incidents. 2527 02:41:49,635 --> 02:41:53,205 And it's the same kids that are going through those same schools, and so that data, 2528 02:41:53,295 --> 02:41:56,776 again, isn't quite matching up. So that also will come into that calibration that 2529 02:41:56,805 --> 02:42:00,165 we're going to do this school year, looking at all of our data entry. 2530 02:42:02,595 --> 02:42:04,665 Next, you'll see long-term suspensions. 2531 02:42:04,785 --> 02:42:09,405 So, we had a huge drop last year, about almost half, and we maintained that for 2532 02:42:09,526 --> 02:42:12,075 25-26. We had 33 long-term suspensions. 2533 02:42:12,435 --> 02:42:15,795 We did have quite an increase there for middle school, though, so you can see that. 2534 02:42:17,295 --> 02:42:20,954 The next slide is looking at our orange folders, red folders, and then mental 2535 02:42:21,015 --> 02:42:26,055 health hospitalizations. So our orange folders are our threat of violence against 2536 02:42:26,175 --> 02:42:30,765 others. We renamed it this year to better align with our state statutes, which is 2537 02:42:30,855 --> 02:42:33,705 our BTAM, Behavioral Threat Assessment Management. 2538 02:42:34,125 --> 02:42:36,526 So now our orange folder is a BTAM assessment. 2539 02:42:37,545 --> 02:42:42,435 This past year in 25-26, we did 192 of those across the district, and you can see 2540 02:42:42,465 --> 02:42:44,595 the breakdown there for elementary, middle, and high. 2541 02:42:44,985 --> 02:42:44,985 A 2542 02:42:47,055 --> 02:42:50,506 much larger number in elementary school because I think that a lot of our 2543 02:42:50,565 --> 02:42:53,776 elementary schoolers are trying to get away with a lot more, and by middle and high 2544 02:42:53,836 --> 02:42:56,145 school, they've learned what's appropriate and what's not appropriate. 2545 02:42:57,375 --> 02:43:01,875 Red folders, we did have a decrease this year, and that is our concern for 2546 02:43:01,935 --> 02:43:06,555 self-harm, the threat of self-harm. We had 366 of those across the district. 2547 02:43:06,765 --> 02:43:09,285 You can again see the breakdown for elementary, middle, and high. 2548 02:43:10,065 --> 02:43:13,365 We did unfortunately have an increase in our mental health hospitalizations. 2549 02:43:13,425 --> 02:43:18,195 So we had 129. When I talk about this data with our principals, I'm very careful to 2550 02:43:18,256 --> 02:43:23,055 say, "This is hospitalizations that we are aware of." This means we assisted with 2551 02:43:23,295 --> 02:43:25,756 transition meetings with those students coming back to school. 2552 02:43:26,655 --> 02:43:29,955 I do feel that there are probably additional hospitalizations that never make it to 2553 02:43:30,075 --> 02:43:35,086 our data collection. But from what we are aware of, we had 129 of those this past 2554 02:43:35,115 --> 02:43:35,325 year. 2555 02:43:37,815 --> 02:43:39,975 The next one is kind of a hodgepodge of data. 2556 02:43:40,155 --> 02:43:45,465 So looking at truancy petitions filed, you will also see there a dramatic decrease. 2557 02:43:45,855 --> 02:43:50,865 We had 79 truancy petitions filed as opposed to 187 the year before. 2558 02:43:50,955 --> 02:43:56,055 A couple of factors for that. The court system transitioned to a new online 2559 02:43:56,115 --> 02:44:00,495 reporting system, and so this past year, they limited the amount of truancy 2560 02:44:00,555 --> 02:44:02,385 petitions that we were able to file. 2561 02:44:02,805 --> 02:44:08,055 So, we did still have way more than 79 truancy petitions that we would have liked 2562 02:44:08,115 --> 02:44:12,045 to have filed, but we were given a limit per month of what we were able to do. 2563 02:44:12,135 --> 02:44:16,095 So Michelle Henderson, our truancy coordinator, had to really go through and we had 2564 02:44:16,155 --> 02:44:21,015 to prioritize which petitions we were going to file and try to assist those 2565 02:44:21,075 --> 02:44:22,695 families to get those kids back in school. 2566 02:44:24,195 --> 02:44:28,336 Looking at DSS reports filed, we did have an increase there of 485. 2567 02:44:28,425 --> 02:44:31,935 Those are DSS reports that our school staff filed. 2568 02:44:32,925 --> 02:44:37,455 McKinney-Vento, that's our homeless population, we also had an increase there, 265 2569 02:44:37,515 --> 02:44:41,985 identified families. Again, those are families that come to us and identify 2570 02:44:42,015 --> 02:44:44,955 themselves or that we seek out and say, "Hey, is there something going on? 2571 02:44:45,015 --> 02:44:49,545 Can we help you?" I would also venture to say we probably have more than 265 2572 02:44:49,575 --> 02:44:53,776 families across the district that would identify themselves as homeless, and we are 2573 02:44:53,836 --> 02:44:56,745 always seeking ways to try to reach out to those families to get them to come and 2574 02:44:56,776 --> 02:45:01,293 talk to us so that we can help them. Foster care bid meetings, we had a pretty good 2575 02:45:01,353 --> 02:45:04,323 increase there, 123 of those over the last year. 2576 02:45:04,952 --> 02:45:08,523 Homebound students has been about the same over the last three years, 25. 2577 02:45:08,944 --> 02:45:12,633 And then TED events, we were down last year with four, so that is a positive there 2578 02:45:12,694 --> 02:45:14,673 for our traumatic events across the district. 2579 02:45:17,013 --> 02:45:19,713 The next slide is our counselor data review. 2580 02:45:20,223 --> 02:45:23,944 Again, we did some calibration with this, and you'll see that here. 2581 02:45:24,003 --> 02:45:29,433 We really looked at, with our parent contacts, we had an increase there because we 2582 02:45:29,463 --> 02:45:32,853 were trying to figure out exactly what does a parent contact mean. 2583 02:45:32,913 --> 02:45:35,643 Is that a parent who is coming in and sitting down with us, or is that a phone 2584 02:45:35,703 --> 02:45:39,573 call, or is that an email? That goes with each of these categories. 2585 02:45:39,633 --> 02:45:43,803 You'll see the consultation with other staff members, a huge drop from 17,000 to 2586 02:45:43,983 --> 02:45:46,833 3,000. That does not mean our counselors are doing less work. 2587 02:45:47,162 --> 02:45:50,763 That means that we had some conversations about what does consultation with a staff 2588 02:45:50,793 --> 02:45:54,333 member look like, and we were able to better define that, so that we were able to 2589 02:45:54,393 --> 02:45:57,393 really track exactly what we're doing in those moments. 2590 02:45:57,483 --> 02:46:01,743 So that 3,000 is a better indicator of how many conversations we're having as 2591 02:46:01,773 --> 02:46:05,703 opposed to every single stop in the hallway and say, "How's it going?" I think that 2592 02:46:05,733 --> 02:46:08,373 first year we were tallying all of that, as we're trying to get into the data 2593 02:46:08,433 --> 02:46:13,263 collection for the state. School-based counseling referrals, we had 410 of those 2594 02:46:13,323 --> 02:46:16,444 this past year, and then meetings attended there, you'll see that. 2595 02:46:16,803 --> 02:46:20,944 Also, a link here for SISS data. That is a new requirement from the state. 2596 02:46:21,033 --> 02:46:23,493 That's Specialized Instructional Support Personnel. 2597 02:46:23,944 --> 02:46:27,123 That is data that we collect from our social workers, from our counselors, and from 2598 02:46:27,183 --> 02:46:31,203 our school nurses. That is all about how we are helping our families. 2599 02:46:31,263 --> 02:46:33,333 What are we providing for them? Are we providing food? 2600 02:46:33,393 --> 02:46:37,953 Are we providing clothing, resource assistance, transportation, all kinds of 2601 02:46:38,013 --> 02:46:40,773 categories there. So again, if you don't have that, since it's linked there, I 2602 02:46:40,803 --> 02:46:42,123 should have included that in the packet. 2603 02:46:42,663 --> 02:46:44,763 I'll be happy to get that to you so you can review that. 2604 02:46:46,503 --> 02:46:48,873 So this leads us to some goals for '26, '27. 2605 02:46:49,444 --> 02:46:52,053 We want to look at an updated student code of conduct. 2606 02:46:52,173 --> 02:46:56,433 That will bring in that calibration piece, being very clear on paper, how are we 2607 02:46:56,493 --> 02:46:59,973 looking at behavior across our district and categorizing that so that our data 2608 02:47:00,033 --> 02:47:01,563 collection, again, is valid. 2609 02:47:03,123 --> 02:47:07,083 We want to continue discussion of our behavior supports and restorative practices. 2610 02:47:07,114 --> 02:47:11,043 We are really still trying to shift from not just giving consequences, but sitting 2611 02:47:11,103 --> 02:47:14,973 down and teaching correct behaviors for our students K-12. 2612 02:47:15,663 --> 02:47:19,323 And then, of course, looking at advocacy for additional student services staff 2613 02:47:19,353 --> 02:47:23,313 funding. You all, I believe we've shared, but I'll just go ahead and say it out 2614 02:47:23,373 --> 02:47:26,703 there again, we are on a grant right now with our school social workers. 2615 02:47:27,273 --> 02:47:32,103 It's a five-year grant, and right now we're in year four, so next year will be our 2616 02:47:32,163 --> 02:47:36,033 final year with that grant, and if we are not able to secure additional funding, we 2617 02:47:36,063 --> 02:47:39,483 will lose some positions there for our social workers, and that's not something 2618 02:47:39,543 --> 02:47:43,323 that we want. So we're going to continue to advocate for those additional positions 2619 02:47:43,383 --> 02:47:46,293 so we can keep the staff we have and hopefully get more staff. 2620 02:47:46,323 --> 02:47:50,013 Because as you can see from these numbers, we have 16 social workers supporting our 2621 02:47:50,163 --> 02:47:52,383 35 schools. They each serve two to three schools. 2622 02:47:52,803 --> 02:47:56,643 And I have 57 counselors supporting our 35 schools, which sounds like a lot, but 2623 02:47:56,673 --> 02:48:00,183 when you've got a school of 1,000 and two to three counselors there, it's not 2624 02:48:00,213 --> 02:48:04,023 really that much. So any questions about any of this data? 2625 02:48:04,623 --> 02:48:05,523 I have two questions. 2626 02:48:05,583 --> 02:48:05,944 Yes, sir. 2627 02:48:07,923 --> 02:48:08,523 One is, 2628 02:48:11,132 --> 02:48:13,533 it only lit as green, so that's good, first of all. 2629 02:48:14,132 --> 02:48:15,843 The K-5 bullying online reporting. 2630 02:48:16,233 --> 02:48:16,503 Yes. 2631 02:48:16,683 --> 02:48:17,763 There was only three. 2632 02:48:18,123 --> 02:48:18,543 Yes. 2633 02:48:20,343 --> 02:48:25,173 Three out of all the elementary schools, because I remember three pretty much in 2634 02:48:25,263 --> 02:48:25,473 email. 2635 02:48:25,533 --> 02:48:28,923 And what you're saying is that we've had at least three emails personally to us as 2636 02:48:28,953 --> 02:48:29,313 a board- 2637 02:48:29,493 --> 02:48:29,493 Yeah 2638 02:48:29,493 --> 02:48:30,063 ... maybe more- 2639 02:48:30,183 --> 02:48:30,303 Yes, right 2640 02:48:30,303 --> 02:48:30,933 ... over the year. 2641 02:48:31,023 --> 02:48:32,194 So far this year. 2642 02:48:32,553 --> 02:48:32,733 Right. 2643 02:48:33,273 --> 02:48:33,723 Right, yeah. 2644 02:48:33,753 --> 02:48:35,073 Maybe not quite this year yet- 2645 02:48:35,133 --> 02:48:35,133 No 2646 02:48:35,133 --> 02:48:38,673 ... as of August, but last year for sure, more than three or four emails. 2647 02:48:38,703 --> 02:48:38,703 Yes. 2648 02:48:38,763 --> 02:48:41,133 So how is that-- Yeah, I think that's what you're saying, if that doesn't 2649 02:48:41,223 --> 02:48:41,703 correlate- 2650 02:48:41,823 --> 02:48:41,944 Yeah 2651 02:48:42,213 --> 02:48:43,444 ... it's really only three. 2652 02:48:43,833 --> 02:48:47,253 I think that speaks a little bit to the conversation that you all had with the 2653 02:48:47,313 --> 02:48:49,743 state earlier. Yes. Or with the board- 2654 02:48:50,463 --> 02:48:51,963 Did they actually report it? 2655 02:48:52,023 --> 02:48:52,203 Right. 2656 02:48:52,263 --> 02:48:53,283 Or did they just email you? 2657 02:48:53,523 --> 02:48:55,083 Right. I think that they're- 2658 02:48:55,293 --> 02:48:55,653 The proper channel 2659 02:48:55,653 --> 02:48:57,513 ... not necessarily following-- Right. 2660 02:48:57,633 --> 02:48:57,633 Okay. 2661 02:48:57,694 --> 02:49:01,743 That we have this out there for them to utilize, and when we have that, we take 2662 02:49:01,773 --> 02:49:04,923 that directly to the school and give that information to the principal, ask them to 2663 02:49:04,953 --> 02:49:06,694 investigate. We follow back up with them. 2664 02:49:07,114 --> 02:49:11,073 That would be the proper channel for how to report bullying, but nowadays a lot of 2665 02:49:11,133 --> 02:49:15,273 our reports come directly from an upset parent who may go directly to you, to the 2666 02:49:15,333 --> 02:49:15,633 board- 2667 02:49:16,444 --> 02:49:16,444 Right 2668 02:49:16,444 --> 02:49:20,043 ... or to us, cabinet, or directly to the principal without going through the 2669 02:49:20,073 --> 02:49:24,364 bullying reporting form. The bullying reporting form does have the opportunity to 2670 02:49:24,393 --> 02:49:27,843 be anonymous. So I think sometimes people think, "I'm only going to use that if I 2671 02:49:27,873 --> 02:49:31,233 don't want them to know who I am." And a lot of times they have no problem telling 2672 02:49:31,293 --> 02:49:31,864 us who they are. 2673 02:49:31,893 --> 02:49:31,893 They want you to know. 2674 02:49:31,923 --> 02:49:33,603 They want us to know, which is fine. 2675 02:49:34,323 --> 02:49:38,673 So I think a lot of times we have a lot more bullying incidents, I believe, than 2676 02:49:38,733 --> 02:49:40,803 what is reported necessarily on our form. 2677 02:49:40,864 --> 02:49:43,653 In the system. Okay. Second question. 2678 02:49:44,343 --> 02:49:46,623 I noticed, and it's another green one, so good job. 2679 02:49:47,643 --> 02:49:52,983 Excessive tardiness dropped just exponentially. Are we doing something specific? 2680 02:49:53,223 --> 02:49:58,353 And you broke out some of the other changes and why they need to represent a 2681 02:49:58,413 --> 02:50:00,993 smaller number, but what about that one? Are we doing something that great? 2682 02:50:01,923 --> 02:50:04,023 I wish I could say yes. I don't believe so. 2683 02:50:04,114 --> 02:50:08,823 I think that we have taken the opportunity over the last three years to really look 2684 02:50:08,973 --> 02:50:12,153 more at, are we getting students into class? 2685 02:50:12,213 --> 02:50:15,093 Not necessarily are they one minute or two minutes late, and we're not necessarily 2686 02:50:15,153 --> 02:50:17,853 putting in every single incident of they are tardy. 2687 02:50:18,753 --> 02:50:22,533 And more so, were they tardy as in missed half the class and then they came in. 2688 02:50:22,563 --> 02:50:24,213 And try to be absent versus- 2689 02:50:24,213 --> 02:50:24,213 Correct 2690 02:50:24,273 --> 02:50:24,723 ... present. 2691 02:50:24,873 --> 02:50:25,923 Correct, yes. 2692 02:50:25,983 --> 02:50:28,233 And my final question, I don't mean to take up all the time. 2693 02:50:28,353 --> 02:50:28,413 Right. 2694 02:50:28,473 --> 02:50:31,114 I'm sure you guys got questions too, but I was confused- 2695 02:50:31,533 --> 02:50:31,713 Okay 2696 02:50:32,013 --> 02:50:37,533 ... on truancy petitions filed that are almost 100 less. It's in the green again. 2697 02:50:37,623 --> 02:50:37,893 Yes. 2698 02:50:39,513 --> 02:50:41,614 It was because we're limited by the 2699 02:50:43,114 --> 02:50:43,864 county system? 2700 02:50:44,163 --> 02:50:44,553 Yes. 2701 02:50:44,793 --> 02:50:47,103 Can you re-explain that? 2702 02:50:47,194 --> 02:50:52,083 So it's something that we're hopeful will change as the county gets more used to 2703 02:50:52,143 --> 02:50:57,633 this system. But it was more of, how many cases can they process in the new system 2704 02:50:57,694 --> 02:50:59,944 versus what our typical docket is. 2705 02:51:00,633 --> 02:51:03,243 I've been to truancy court with Michelle a couple of times just to see how it 2706 02:51:03,273 --> 02:51:09,063 works. And prior to this year, we would have a docket of you could have 300 to 350 2707 02:51:09,153 --> 02:51:13,864 cases that are coming in that are reviewed by the district attorney and by our 2708 02:51:13,923 --> 02:51:19,683 Judge Covington. And so now we are on a given day with their new computer 2709 02:51:19,743 --> 02:51:23,403 system, they may say, "We can have 100 on the docket today, so which 100 are we 2710 02:51:23,432 --> 02:51:28,112 going to take?" And so it has just limited what we're able to- 2711 02:51:28,202 --> 02:51:29,253 Limited court system 2712 02:51:29,283 --> 02:51:29,612 ... take. 2713 02:51:29,673 --> 02:51:29,792 So- 2714 02:51:29,853 --> 02:51:30,362 Correct 2715 02:51:30,423 --> 02:51:35,944 ... so starting maybe two to three years ago, the 2716 02:51:36,063 --> 02:51:41,463 state as a whole went to what I call the portal. It's called eCourts. 2717 02:51:41,703 --> 02:51:41,793 Mm-hmm. 2718 02:51:41,823 --> 02:51:44,614 So now all the filings, correct, are online. 2719 02:51:44,763 --> 02:51:45,063 Yes. 2720 02:51:45,723 --> 02:51:50,463 I cannot walk down to the courthouse and file a document anymore. Okay. 2721 02:51:50,523 --> 02:51:52,233 Or if we're outside of truancy, you're talking about- 2722 02:51:52,353 --> 02:51:52,593 Any 2723 02:51:52,773 --> 02:51:53,253 ... anything. 2724 02:51:53,313 --> 02:51:53,673 Anything. 2725 02:51:53,763 --> 02:51:54,333 Including truancy. 2726 02:51:54,393 --> 02:51:54,903 A motion- 2727 02:51:54,933 --> 02:51:55,023 File 2728 02:51:55,023 --> 02:52:00,663 ... a complaint, whatever. And they've rolled that out across the state over about 2729 02:52:00,694 --> 02:52:02,673 a two-year to three-year process. 2730 02:52:03,393 --> 02:52:03,423 Mm-hmm. 2731 02:52:03,453 --> 02:52:09,063 We went live on that, I believe in Davidson County, in October of 2732 02:52:09,213 --> 02:52:12,063 2025, if my memory serves me correctly. 2733 02:52:12,753 --> 02:52:12,783 Yes. 2734 02:52:12,813 --> 02:52:17,643 And in my opinion now, I'm a dinosaur, and I don't like technology, but I'm not a 2735 02:52:17,703 --> 02:52:19,293 big fan of the portal. 2736 02:52:21,963 --> 02:52:23,493 It slows access- 2737 02:52:23,493 --> 02:52:23,493 I can imagine 2738 02:52:23,523 --> 02:52:25,263 ... to the courts, in my opinion. 2739 02:52:26,793 --> 02:52:30,873 But that's the first I've heard of that, but it does not surprise me. 2740 02:52:31,413 --> 02:52:36,873 Regardless of what we feel of truancy, it's a law, and so 2741 02:52:37,773 --> 02:52:43,653 violating that law is a criminal act or maybe not so harsh a term because it 2742 02:52:43,713 --> 02:52:49,653 is truancy. However, okay, 1,000 kids are truant, but we can't do anything 2743 02:52:49,713 --> 02:52:52,953 about 900 of them because you have a limit. 2744 02:52:53,194 --> 02:52:56,133 You got a choke point of how many they can process. 2745 02:52:56,733 --> 02:52:57,423 So we need to- 2746 02:52:57,513 --> 02:52:57,723 Right 2747 02:52:57,723 --> 02:53:02,883 ... I'm sure something has been done at a higher level than just DCS- 2748 02:53:04,143 --> 02:53:04,263 Right 2749 02:53:04,263 --> 02:53:05,343 ... with the court system. 2750 02:53:05,433 --> 02:53:08,493 And it truly makes the job of our social workers that much more important because 2751 02:53:08,523 --> 02:53:11,883 they're still having mediation and meeting with families and doing all that we can 2752 02:53:11,944 --> 02:53:13,383 on our side of things without 2753 02:53:14,883 --> 02:53:17,103 having the formality of court. 2754 02:53:18,483 --> 02:53:20,013 I just found that, I've circled that one- 2755 02:53:20,043 --> 02:53:20,073 Yeah 2756 02:53:20,073 --> 02:53:21,903 ... as soon as you said it because it was confusing that- 2757 02:53:22,053 --> 02:53:22,083 Yeah 2758 02:53:22,083 --> 02:53:25,683 ... we're limited in prosecuting a criminal or whatever. 2759 02:53:26,403 --> 02:53:26,403 Yeah. 2760 02:53:26,463 --> 02:53:27,333 So, okay. 2761 02:53:28,143 --> 02:53:28,773 Other questions? 2762 02:53:30,783 --> 02:53:35,373 How do you, I guess, anticipate the data that looks so much better over the 2763 02:53:35,433 --> 02:53:41,403 previous years? I imagine it will impact funding but not for the better. 2764 02:53:41,614 --> 02:53:45,123 So, I know you talk about advocating for additional funding, but it's going to be 2765 02:53:45,153 --> 02:53:46,593 hard to do that- 2766 02:53:46,593 --> 02:53:46,683 Right 2767 02:53:46,713 --> 02:53:50,283 ... when our numbers in most situations look good. 2768 02:53:50,343 --> 02:53:53,944 Right. I think as far as advocating for positions, 2769 02:53:55,263 --> 02:53:59,823 I could say that the positions that we have are working because we are seeing some 2770 02:53:59,883 --> 02:54:04,203 positive gains. But as far as the calibration piece, I think our data will come 2771 02:54:04,263 --> 02:54:07,444 back up this year when we say, "Okay, we need to make sure we're putting everything 2772 02:54:07,563 --> 02:54:07,773 in." 2773 02:54:09,003 --> 02:54:13,390 But As far as funding goes, what we currently have 2774 02:54:14,080 --> 02:54:18,669 behavior-wise is not necessarily tied to funding that I think will be impacted with 2775 02:54:18,729 --> 02:54:20,859 our data, if that makes sense. Okay. Yes. Yeah. 2776 02:54:20,890 --> 02:54:24,399 It's more so looking for positions, not necessarily programs. 2777 02:54:24,669 --> 02:54:29,199 Okay. We want people. Right. Yeah. 2778 02:54:32,769 --> 02:54:33,399 That's it. 2779 02:54:33,459 --> 02:54:37,449 Okay. And my last item is just looking at our strategic plan. 2780 02:54:37,569 --> 02:54:42,849 I just wanted to make sure that we are all aware, which has been discussed, that we 2781 02:54:42,939 --> 02:54:46,359 are in our final year of our current DCS strategic plan. 2782 02:54:46,719 --> 02:54:50,890 And throughout this year, we have a timeline for what it's going to look like to 2783 02:54:50,919 --> 02:54:56,319 wrap up and conclude our current plan, and then to start planning and get a new 2784 02:54:56,379 --> 02:55:00,069 plan in place by the end of this school year, so that we are ready to launch some 2785 02:55:00,099 --> 02:55:02,529 of our goals from that plan next school year. 2786 02:55:02,649 --> 02:55:05,469 So our current plan, we have four goals. 2787 02:55:05,560 --> 02:55:08,890 Our first meeting is next week with our first committee to start looking at how 2788 02:55:08,919 --> 02:55:12,339 have we done on those goals over the last four years. What have we accomplished? 2789 02:55:13,749 --> 02:55:15,999 It's one of those things where we love to go through and check and say, "We did 2790 02:55:16,060 --> 02:55:19,330 great. We met all of our goals." But that's not going to be necessarily beneficial 2791 02:55:19,359 --> 02:55:21,939 for us to really just say that and not know what our data looks like. 2792 02:55:21,999 --> 02:55:27,609 So we'll be digging in to really see what we have accomplished and how we've met 2793 02:55:27,640 --> 02:55:30,999 those goals this year. And then you can see the timeline there, just on what you 2794 02:55:31,060 --> 02:55:35,109 have. September, October, we will start reflecting and assessing those goals. 2795 02:55:35,169 --> 02:55:39,310 November, December, we will look at closing out the current plan, making sure that 2796 02:55:39,369 --> 02:55:43,839 we have data to support our indicators that we have met and/or not met. 2797 02:55:44,799 --> 02:55:49,330 And then in January, we'll start the new plan development with either a new team 2798 02:55:49,419 --> 02:55:52,060 than this team that we've started next week or maybe some of the same. 2799 02:55:52,119 --> 02:55:55,479 But our teams will be made up of principals, assistant principals. 2800 02:55:55,509 --> 02:55:58,509 We'll have counselors, social workers. We'll have curriculum folks. 2801 02:55:58,569 --> 02:56:02,499 We'll have directors. We'll have instructional coaches, people from all across the 2802 02:56:02,529 --> 02:56:06,159 district, as well as community members, and potentially some of you as well. 2803 02:56:06,249 --> 02:56:11,080 I'll be asking to sit on our strategic plan committee in looking at what do we want 2804 02:56:11,109 --> 02:56:14,080 for the next four years for Davidson County Schools. 2805 02:56:14,140 --> 02:56:18,339 Because our next plan will run until 2031, which is crazy to even say out loud. 2806 02:56:19,119 --> 02:56:21,759 But we've got to be thinking ahead and thinking what do we want to see in the next 2807 02:56:21,819 --> 02:56:25,899 four years for our school system. And we'll be working on that February, March, 2808 02:56:26,019 --> 02:56:30,399 April, finalizing some of those goals and indicators in May and June. 2809 02:56:30,459 --> 02:56:33,699 And then, of course, over the summer, getting ready to roll it out for next school 2810 02:56:33,729 --> 02:56:37,239 year in August of 2027. So I just wanted you to have that timeline. 2811 02:56:37,269 --> 02:56:39,310 I'll be giving you an update here and there throughout the year. 2812 02:56:40,119 --> 02:56:42,640 And next year will be a big year for rolling out our new goals. 2813 02:56:42,969 --> 02:56:44,439 So any questions about that timeline? 2814 02:56:45,969 --> 02:56:47,739 Thank you, Dr. Greer. Appreciate it. 2815 02:56:50,019 --> 02:56:53,499 At this time, to prevent disclosure of information that is confidential or 2816 02:56:53,529 --> 02:56:58,929 privileged under General Statute 143-318.11A1, to consult 2817 02:56:58,959 --> 02:57:03,369 with the board attorney and protect attorney-client privilege under General Statute 2818 02:57:03,549 --> 02:57:09,189 143-318.11A3, and to consider the qualifications, competence, performance, 2819 02:57:09,279 --> 02:57:12,729 conditions of employment of a public officer or employee, or prospective public 2820 02:57:12,819 --> 02:57:17,199 officer or employee under General Statute 143-318.11A6. 2821 02:57:17,259 --> 02:57:18,819 Do I have a motion to go into closed? 2822 02:57:19,209 --> 02:57:20,259 Make that motion. 2823 02:57:20,349 --> 02:57:20,979 Do I have a second? 2824 02:57:21,549 --> 02:57:21,819 Second. 2825 02:57:21,879 --> 02:57:24,338 All in favor? We're now in closed.