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Alright. Today is Thursday, May 19. It's 11:37AM.

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Brian O'Donnell from John Davis. Please stand state

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your name for the record. Mack and Malone,

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procurement coordinator. Kim Sharp, GIS manager. Adam Stafford,

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IT applications manager. Doron Spence, public works coordinator.

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Beatrice Alvarez, Assistant Public Works Director. Jeff Polin,

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Partnership, Creation and Cultural Letters Department Director. Thank

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you. We are here for ITN number RM2217.

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This is titled New Enterprise Asset Management System,

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EAM Work Order System. We're here for the

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review committee for, it's, I'm gonna go over

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where we've been and where we've gone. So

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a couple of things, Really quickly, we have

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several representatives online. They're here today to observe

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only. There is no input from the review

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committee. If we choose later on to do

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presentations or anything of that nature, we'll schedule

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those appropriately and handle those through that process.

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But today, we're here to observe, so thank

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you for your attendance. You're both welcome to

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be here or via via Webex. So turning

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my attention back to the reviews meeting, the

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four people, Tim Shar, Adam Stafford, Ron, Spence,

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Beatrice Alvarez, and Jeff Pullman are five members

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of this review community, myself and Becca are

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facilitators of this process. So we are not

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voting just so everybody understands that, we'll be

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making the decision with Sam. We'll be guiding

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you through this process. Any questions up to

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this point as far as where we're at?

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Yep. So I've been on other review committees

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and I guess this has never been part

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of the ones I've been in. But for

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this particular, one, as I went through everything,

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I felt that the presentation part to me

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is very important. And I don't know if,

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and this was just a question that I

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didn't want to ask since, you know, there

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was the, you know, can't talk about it.

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Do we need to shortlist today without the

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presentation? That's part of the timeline. Okay. That

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was my only question. Yeah. As far as

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process or any interview. Yeah. So I'm gonna

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go through the just kind of where we've

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been and then where we're going. So this

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one's available on Monday, December 20. It was

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a mandatory for the post meeting on January

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10 at 2PM. The responses were two back.

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03/15/2022 at 2PM. And at that time, we

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took responses from the following, IPS Energy USA

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Incorporated, PaintStar, Mass Group Incorporated, PSD, Citywide Incorporated,

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Smart Energy Water, SeaLink Incorporated, and Seafro Solutions.

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So we went through an administer after that.

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Subsequent to that, we went through an administrative

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review process, and it was determined that there

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were three companies that were, deemed disqualified due

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to the fact that they were not they

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did not provide, all the required information, so

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they were not responsive to our documents. So

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at that point, we disqualified them and that

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was IPS Energy USA, PSD Citywide Incorporated and

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Safe Grove Solutions. So what that left you

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with was Mainstar, manufacturing automated systems, DVA mass

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group, smart energy systems, DVA smart energy water,

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and SeedLink Incorporated. So those are the four

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that you'll be reviewing today or you'll have

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any discussions on. So subsequent also you should

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have received each one of the review committee

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members that should have received all of these

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responses that we have for you to review.

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You should have done your homework, actually went

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probably through a class with Rebecca just going

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through on just a refresher on the review

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committee process. So today we're here to have

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that review committee and go through discussion. So

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if you turn your attention to the administrative

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review document, it's a very small frame, there's

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a lot of information here, but if you

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can, please check your attention here. And, going

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through the checklist, looking at everything, I don't

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see anything outside of the norm on the

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process. Is there anything else, Rebecca, that you

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needed to add to this or any comments

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from you as a review committee based on

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this? No. Okay. So look at the next

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document we have in front of us here.

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This is your score sheet. So we're gonna

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get to your point, Beatrice, where you're at,

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where we're going with this. So this was

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done as an ITN. You may be familiar

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with RFPs and other, solicitations that we do

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RFPs, RFQs. This is an invitation and negotiation.

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this one. Okay, so there's a difference between

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how we negotiate with and how we negotiate.

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Okay, but as far as ranking, we will

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do the process. We'll go through the scoring

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using the best value scoring that we use.

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But what we'll be doing is evaluating these

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firms based on the firm's qualification, qualifications of

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the firm and key staff, stability of key

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staff, project experience and past performance, best overall

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approaches to show the services, client references plus

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previous experiences with governmental agencies, experience and technical

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capabilities, current recent project projected workload, firms demonstrate

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firm demonstrates consistency in meeting project time and

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budget strengths, demonstrates minimization of change orders and

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amendments and local preference. So these are the

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evaluation criteria you're looking at to determine who

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is the top ranked. And that being designated,

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we do, like I said, a best value.

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You don't use a hundred point scale. We

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rank the number one being the best rank.

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They're your favorite. They're the top. They're the

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best overall solution. You think of them. They're

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the top ranked in second, third, and fourth.

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So you have four. So you'll have one,

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two, three, and four. There's no two ones,

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there's no two twos, there's no two threes,

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and there's no decimals or anything like that.

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So it's either one, two, three, or four.

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That's how you're going to score them in

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regards to putting down that scoring process. Everybody

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clear on that? Yep. Okay. Thank you. Alright.

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We'll be in the process. Again, this is

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you're gonna have this open discussion, and I'm

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gonna ask, you know, since public works is

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the lead on this, that you'll be probably

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starting to opening dialogue. Sure. But before we

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start that, there's a couple of things that

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are at your disposal. Today is the first

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part of this could be you could be

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reviewing these and having this discussion and there's

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someone that just stands out and says this

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is basically from what we've read they can

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do everything we want we see it we're

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good we want to move on collectively making

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that determination. Or there could be further discussions,

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do we have enough information, do we need

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something? So we have four companies here, if

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you wanted to shortlist and bring back for

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presentations, three of the four, two of the

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four, whatever. That's up to you as the

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review committee has when you go, but we'll

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do a scoring and then we'll look at

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this and see who are we going to

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bring back for presentations if we need any

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presentations. But that's out here in this world.

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don't need a full presentation, but you need

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answers, what we'll do is send out questions

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to the firms, getting their responses and we'll

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reconvene as a review committee to review those.

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And then after the review of those, you

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may be able to make a decision. But

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that's just a step that's available to you

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instead of doing a full blown presentation. But

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again, these are at your disposal for making

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that determination on who is the top rank.

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Any questions on that? No. Okay. So, again,

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we'll get to once we get to the

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point where we're looking at who we want

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to negotiate with, differences with this is you

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can take two or three to negotiate with

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on instead of just having a we can

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go either simultaneous negotiation or we can do

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it basically sequential, but those are the two

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methods that we can choose and we can

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choose that when we want to make our

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recommendation choose negotiate with the top rank and

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if unsuccessful, we can go to the second

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ranked and then we can go to the

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third. Or we can actually pick top two

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and then we can begin negotiations with both.

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there's basically what we would have is go

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through the negotiations and whoever that negotiation committee

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would be to make the determination is who

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is going to be recommended. Typically, there's either

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a VAPO or there's an adjustment or basically

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negotiations are failing with one and they're basically

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having good negotiations with the second. The negotiation

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part is a little bit different, but you

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can actually negotiate with two firms instead of

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just doing it sequentially like we do as

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an RFP. This is the beauty of an

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ITN. It allows especially in the technology range.

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This is where it was developed from, so

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it it it's a good fit for us.

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But, again, you can choose, and, again, it

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depends on how your discussion is going. What

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you've seen or what you've read will guide

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you to this process of where we wanna

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go. So with that, I'm gonna be quiet

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now, and I know you're all thankful. Gonna

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turn it over to you. Sure. You begin

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your dialogue. What I also urge you, a

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couple of things. I know you went through

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the class, but speak the names of the

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companies of who you're talking about. Be clear

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on that when you're discussing these so that,

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you know, they're not just people guessing at

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what you're saying as far as that goes.

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If there's anything, questions, you can ask us

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seizure wise or you can discuss them off

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yourself, but I just want to make sure

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that you're not going, I'll let these firms

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be clear on those so that everybody understands.

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Okay? Thank you, Anna. I'll turn it over

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to you. All right. Thank you, guys, for

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coming today, all of the vendors as well.

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So what I wanted to do is go

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directly into the scope, section 5.2, and just

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what I was able to do and what

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I would like us to discuss more so

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is the exact bullet points of what we

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expected versus on what they presented and how

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well it matched with what our desired needs

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are for this particular work order EAM. So

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some of the things that I did was

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make some notes so maybe we can dialogue

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at each bullet point. So I'll just kind

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of start the dialogue and we can, I

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guess, address each company per bullet and just

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discuss how we feel about that particular bullet

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and our needs for that particular item? So

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the first one is a multi user interface

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with message chat capabilities. All right. So we

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can start with the first company here, MainStar.

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seamless and user friendly this particular feature is.

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they stated something like supporting in system messaging.

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This allows a full history of communications by

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party and time date. But I'm not sure

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within a mobile app if it's as user

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friendly. So again, that would be something my

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recommendation to see during a possible presentation during

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that. So you guys have any comments on

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that first one for Main Star? From what

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same thing that you were saying about the

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chat not being as user friendly, and I

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think there was maybe an upcharge for it

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being instant. So it was I think there

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was the two options, but it was just

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a different Additional charge. Anybody else for MainStar

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regarding multi user interface with message or chat

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capabilities? So moving on to the next company,

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that would be MAS Group, the Manufacturing Automation

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and Software Systems. They do not mention a

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chat capability or multi user interface. Okay. Moving

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on to smart energy systems. They seem to

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have a pretty comprehensive chat capability. They provide

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admin staff, including authorized parties such as the

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editor, facilitator, etc, with the ability to communicate

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directly within their trademark system, which I thought

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was a great feature. Did anybody else have

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any comments or see that as well? I

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agree with you on that. We can go

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bold by bold or if we just wanted

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to talk about it as a whole. I

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think that might be easier for some dialogue,

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just me personally, but I'll defer to you

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as the lead. I mean, you have something

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particular, especially in regards to this company, since

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we are talking about Smart Energy, I don't

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mind diverging if you'd like to communicate about

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it. Things that you saw that you were

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either impressed with that you felt would meet

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our needs. I have I mean, I felt

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like their submittal was something very user friendly.

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I agree. And so even the way that

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they did their submittal is something that I

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would want to see on my app. It

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was just very easy to read. It was,

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I could see field staff really understanding how

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to, utilize this because everything was with flow

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charts and everything was very, again, user friendly.

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So screenshots were very clear. Yes. On how

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the program actually worked. It wasn't as general

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as maybe some of the other, main star,

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their proposal was, well written, but it wasn't

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as detailed when it came to actually seeing

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how the program worked. And so in that

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case, you know, I would need to see

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more of a presentation to understand Smart Energy

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Systems kind of explained it very well in

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their proposal. Okay. You did unmute Adam. So

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now with balancing that out with bringing in

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an oncoming presentation, potentially. Are we articulating that

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we would like to see more details in

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these presentations because their actual documentation did not

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provide that clarity? Or are they being excluded

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because they did not upfront provide enough of

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that? And it's just too vague. I don't

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believe all of our the people who presented,

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I don't personally think that we need a

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presentation from all of them. I do personally

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think possibly two for sure, but maybe even

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three. But I believe one company didn't for

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me. But again, we can talk about that.

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Because they have different benefits, bells and whistles.

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You know what I mean? I think if

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I can't, let me personally think the presentation

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is really important for this type of that

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we're asking because I think it's important for

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us to touch, touch, feel, see it so

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that we know especially for Right. Field reporting

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and and the staff and usability and to

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see it on the smart energy systems since

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we're on that. Didn't like that they were,

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GIS centric, which was a big component of

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this, especially from the IT and internal reporting.

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When you say they, who are you referring

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to? Smart Energy Systems. Okay, because MainSTAR also

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is very GIS incorporated and so is Z

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Link. However, for me, Z Link was I'm

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sorry to interject, but I just wanted to

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comment. I feel like they're more project manager

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focused. They had CAD drawings and it was

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just a little bit very high detail. So

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for our user staff who's going to use

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it, I don't think that would be effective.

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Even though they're extremely GIS integrated, even with

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CAD drawings and probably pin or droplicate. I

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have a question that really was even connected

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to That's what I'm saying. Perhaps not really

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data. Right. And that might incur some additional

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questions when it comes to the fact that

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more technical data delivery requires more work. So

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depending on what this ITN is actually budgeted

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for, how much uplift the organization has. I

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don't think Z Link even they're not really

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providing what we're looking for. For me, I

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have literally a slew of things that just

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doesn't support what we're looking for. From mobile

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navigation to unique numbering in our work order,

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like very specific things that we need and

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want. They didn't even mention them, so I

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don't really even want to see a presentation.

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That's why was saying possibly if we do

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see a presentation, I definitely would love to

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see it from Smart Energy Main Star and

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Mass Group. But I would like to talk

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about the things that they did not have

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just so that we could vocally have that

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here recorded. When we move into presentation, we

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can kind of revisit that and see if

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those are the needs that are met. I've

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been here for a second. Let me make

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a suggestion. You guys kind of jump it

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around a little bit. Do you want to

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just do a roll down the line of

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an overall overall overall? That way you guys

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can kind of go back on that so

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that way you know, one of you have

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that period to talk about what thought you'd

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like or not like throwing out there as

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a suggestion that way, you know, give an

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overview and then you you can dialogue a

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little bit more. Jeff, do you want to

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start with Mainstar and then we can all

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go from there? Sure. Mainstar, you know, excuse

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me, I appreciate it. Biggest thing that stood

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out to me with Mainstar and I think

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it meets the needs, think it does, but

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the cost. And other cost is a factor

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and it was the highest budget and way

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over budget. Obviously, with the invitation and negotiate,

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from a presentation standpoint, then we do have

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the right to maybe pick and choose what

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we actually need because they had a lot

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of bells and whistles, they had a lot

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of add on features. It was great, it

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seemed like a very robust system to me,

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but I don't know if it's more than

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what we're looking for and some of those

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things can be scaled down. You know, looking

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at a broader scale too, they did have

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a fleet management module as well, which, you

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know, from a town wide standpoint, that may

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be something We can grow too. Yeah. That

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the town as a whole would like to

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incorporate. I wasn't totally sure on the iPad

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or tablet interface, and I was impressed on

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page 90, but I would have some questions

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questions for them on what the info reporting

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and what it actually looked like. I thought

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the citizen portal was a nice touch too.

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I know that wasn't something that was necessarily

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outlined in the bid, but I did think

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that that was a nice feature, especially for

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a work order system that citizens could and

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then it linked directly into the system. I

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guess from a IT standpoint and maybe Adam

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might be able to address this, but I

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know all of them were cloud based systems.

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I didn't know if there was a platform

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preferred. I think two of them use an

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Amazon web based whereas the others were like

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SAS. I don't know if maybe you can

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touch on that Adam while we get to

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it, but I did think too from their

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their client references and things. They did seem

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to have some, you know, obviously municipal experience

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where I think, you know, it translates to

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what we were looking at. Those are just

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kind some some general things but like we've

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talked about too, I think presentations on a

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shortlist of these companies based on how the

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committee votes, I think is going to be

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very valuable as we go through it because

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we can only get so much off the

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documents submitted and I think it's very important

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to be able to touch, feel, and see

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it. So those are my kind of brief

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summary notes on a question. How do you

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feel about Mass Group, the next company? We

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want to have one Just one at a

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time? Okay. I agree with well, your go,

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Beatrice, sorry. I agree with everything Jeff said.

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They were the most, I mean, support everything

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that we asked for and much more. So

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there wasn't any really point other than the

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one question about the chat that can easily

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be asked. And they did have the most

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amount of, like municipalities and government related type

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cities. Again, I just think I didn't understand

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too much exactly how the program works because

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it we didn't get like the snapshots and

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stuff. So the presentation for this particular company

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will be very important. I agree with both

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of them. Paul? In regards to Jess points,

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so SaaS is just software as a solution

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where we're buying a package deal Off the

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shelf. Off the shelf. It's provided as a

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all in one inclusive kinda, you know, product.

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And as for hosting environments, you know, for

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the content or what is available that will

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be provided or put into these systems, They're

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not sensitive data. They're not criminal justice or

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PAPI. So those can be housed in almost

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any, you know, environment, whether it's Azure, AWS,

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Google Cloud, or, you know, whether it's a

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gov side or public side. So we don't

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have a strong feeling towards either one, as

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long as we're not putting any kind of

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sensitive data or information in those places. The

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one thing that comes back with a lot

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of these things is just going to be,

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you know, which I'll defer to Tim on

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the GIS integration. What's the level of GIS

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integration? And seeing a demo of it really

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kind of lets you know whether or not

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are we using your resemblance of GIS data,

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or are you using our actual inventory of

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GIS data? So consuming, utilizing, and things like

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that, slightly different and demos really play a

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hard factor in that. I think using our

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GIS data is very important for this application.

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And moving forward, because we want to make

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sure that we're not creating these silos of

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data in every single SaaS or third party

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product that we use, where we're trying to

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really push forward with the mindset of, here's

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our inventory of what we have that we

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wanna utilize with all of our products. We

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don't wanna have, you know, a third party

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copy that we have to maintain, update, and

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kinda manage. So that's where we we're updating

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it twice because we're updating our end and

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then we update it. Right. So we're we're

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we're streamlining all of that, and that's our

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future focus. But From what you saw in

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do all four of them I know maybe

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that can be worked out in presentations or

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additional questions, but I just I don't talk

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the the IP language. It was it was

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hard to determine. It was hard to determine

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if if if what where they were with.

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Is it copied? Is it Google? Or is

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it, you know, like a lot of people

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will refer, you know, a lot of software

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products will defer to, you know, mapping services

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that are out there, you know, whether it's

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Bing or Google to, you know, use their

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service, but it doesn't mean that it is

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our mapping inventory and services and what we

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have. It's somebody else's version of our facts.

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And so that's where it's hard to tell

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exactly what they're utilizing. I appreciate that. Because

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we can't talk about it prior, that was

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a question that I had. Just wasn't clear

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on how that would look. For the GIS

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integration in particular, speaking into specific terms of

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integration, not some kind of interface that's been

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made back and forth, there were only two

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that were cleared for GIS integration. Those being

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Pinkstar as far as the other one. The

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others offered some different things, some of which

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is that I'm saying wasn't necessarily very clear.

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They seem to have some other focus that

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maybe now overlapped with existing prod products like

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the project ops. Right. Need to really move

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into that realm, I don't think. And another

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one, mass group seem to offer more of

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a custom interface development. Mhmm. That's fine. Really

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seems like needed Mhmm. Data back and forth

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with that one. The other two were clear.

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They're built in through integrations Mhmm. From the

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00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,760
BI standpoint then. So we should enterprise asset

513
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320
management as a whole consists of many components,

514
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,985
one of which is an asset registry, Our

515
00:26:40,985 --> 00:26:43,545
intent for different things that can be geographically

516
00:26:43,545 --> 00:26:48,265
located is GIS is that asset registry. We're

517
00:26:48,265 --> 00:26:50,905
talking something like a storm water features, different

518
00:26:50,905 --> 00:26:54,025
roads, perhaps in the future street furniture. We

519
00:26:54,025 --> 00:26:55,865
can get into different assets of the parks.

520
00:26:56,170 --> 00:26:59,850
That really that serves that asset registry piece.

521
00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:03,130
And to the extent possible, as you're you

522
00:27:03,130 --> 00:27:06,090
don't really wanna replicate that. Find yourselves having

523
00:27:06,090 --> 00:27:07,929
to try to keep that in sync and

524
00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:14,335
contain it separately. So yeah. Definitely. Moving on

525
00:27:14,335 --> 00:27:16,575
to the next company specifically, Jeff, do you

526
00:27:16,575 --> 00:27:18,415
want to talk about the MAS Group and

527
00:27:18,415 --> 00:27:22,255
your findings with them? Manufacturing, automation, and software

528
00:27:22,255 --> 00:27:29,080
systems? Sure. Go down. So, when I read

529
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,880
in different things, obviously the cloud based solutions

530
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,720
we're looking for was Amazon, felt like they

531
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,715
didn't really have a whole lot of municipal

532
00:27:37,715 --> 00:27:41,075
applications. It was mostly law enforcement, schools, military,

533
00:27:41,395 --> 00:27:43,235
things like that. Not saying that it couldn't

534
00:27:43,235 --> 00:27:44,435
work but I just didn't see a lot

535
00:27:44,435 --> 00:27:48,115
of client reference or applications related to kind

536
00:27:48,115 --> 00:27:50,929
of what we typically handle on day by

537
00:27:50,929 --> 00:27:54,929
day. Mhmm. From a budget standpoint, seem to

538
00:27:54,929 --> 00:27:56,370
be in line with what some of our

539
00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:59,730
budget constraints are. Like I said before, I

540
00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:02,184
was unclear about the GIS and the interface

541
00:28:02,184 --> 00:28:06,184
which I think didn't have help answer. They

542
00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:09,144
have questions on the symptom capabilities and that

543
00:28:09,144 --> 00:28:12,585
infield reporting from tablets and smartphones and and

544
00:28:12,585 --> 00:28:15,159
some of those items that we currently use

545
00:28:15,159 --> 00:28:16,519
in the field and then a full person

546
00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:18,760
as well. So I did have I I

547
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,640
think I had more questions on on their

548
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,799
stuff that, you know, could potentially be answered

549
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:29,015
in a demo, but I think I had

550
00:28:29,015 --> 00:28:33,095
more questions on their stuff. Mean, I think

551
00:28:34,934 --> 00:28:36,695
potentially meet our needs. I just don't know

552
00:28:36,695 --> 00:28:38,534
if that would be the best solution for

553
00:28:38,534 --> 00:28:42,330
us based on the initial Beatrice, what are

554
00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:47,130
your findings on MathGroup? Yeah, I saw that

555
00:28:47,770 --> 00:28:51,530
similarly, a lot of their examples were more

556
00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:55,610
in regards to asset management and record keeping.

557
00:28:56,595 --> 00:28:58,675
For example, one of theirs was the charter

558
00:28:58,675 --> 00:29:02,915
school. And so they were, the school was

559
00:29:02,915 --> 00:29:05,395
needing to be able to upkeep all their

560
00:29:05,395 --> 00:29:08,355
books and records and inventory. And so it

561
00:29:08,355 --> 00:29:09,715
seemed to do a good job with all

562
00:29:09,715 --> 00:29:11,630
of that. I'm just, I just didn't see

563
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:17,309
as much of the, work order, reporting and

564
00:29:17,309 --> 00:29:21,710
the, the, back and forth between like a

565
00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:24,835
supervisor and a field employee and those kind

566
00:29:24,835 --> 00:29:27,075
of capabilities that again, through our presentation, we

567
00:29:27,075 --> 00:29:30,914
may be able to answer. Yeah, I see

568
00:29:30,914 --> 00:29:33,315
they don't mention chat capabilities or multi user

569
00:29:33,315 --> 00:29:35,955
interfaces. They don't mention workflow sequencing, which is

570
00:29:35,955 --> 00:29:38,480
basically what we really needed to dive into.

571
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,799
They don't mention automatic unique work order numbering.

572
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,279
They didn't mention GIS integration. They have no

573
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:47,919
navigation. The reports, they had PDF docs and

574
00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:50,639
different types. However, their mobile component was very

575
00:29:50,639 --> 00:29:53,934
limited. Like it's not navigation friendly. The user

576
00:29:53,934 --> 00:29:57,294
interface does not it doesn't look seamless, neither

577
00:29:57,294 --> 00:29:58,895
easy to use. It was just more of

578
00:29:58,895 --> 00:30:00,494
like a sign off type of a thing.

579
00:30:00,895 --> 00:30:02,895
We could sign that work was done, but

580
00:30:02,895 --> 00:30:05,054
we need more of a sequence and automation.

581
00:30:06,015 --> 00:30:08,159
So that was my viewpoint on that. I

582
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:11,120
did speak with someone from the airport, one

583
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,360
of their references, but they don't use it

584
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,039
in the capacity that we would need to

585
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:16,799
use it in. But they were very satisfied

586
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,840
with their product. Like to what both of

587
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,655
Jeff and Beatrice said, it seemed more asset

588
00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:33,295
management from that standpoint. Inventory. I agree with

589
00:30:33,295 --> 00:30:36,450
what you all said. Exactly. Same same points.

590
00:30:50,175 --> 00:30:54,975
Take your given features and what was discussed

591
00:30:54,975 --> 00:30:59,135
earlier about the shortlisting presentations, but not just

592
00:30:59,135 --> 00:31:02,335
presentations, demonstrations as well. Yeah, we definitely need

593
00:31:02,335 --> 00:31:07,150
that. So, that standpoint, specifically with being a

594
00:31:07,150 --> 00:31:09,070
star as an engine that have a built

595
00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:13,230
in GIS integration that has set of references

596
00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:15,790
that were in the realm of what we're

597
00:31:15,790 --> 00:31:18,350
working on. Who are you referring to? Jim,

598
00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:21,554
who are you referring to now? Mainstar. No,

599
00:31:21,554 --> 00:31:23,235
we're talking about mask groups. Yeah, just gave

600
00:31:23,235 --> 00:31:29,875
you the first got it. But, yeah, they

601
00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:33,075
had a set of references covered. We're looking

602
00:31:33,075 --> 00:31:43,110
at some specific. That's the inventory focus on

603
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:47,030
the. For a custom interface where we're trying

604
00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:52,524
to go off the shelf. Configuration, here that

605
00:31:52,524 --> 00:31:54,044
would be more of a testing phase to

606
00:31:54,044 --> 00:31:56,605
work with the PIS. That would be positive,

607
00:31:56,605 --> 00:32:02,524
right? Positive. Immediate time, long term maintenance, as

608
00:32:02,765 --> 00:32:06,310
well as really having data disconnecting from the

609
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:10,710
PRS, not getting it directly through services. Yeah.

610
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:12,950
I wanted to touch upon that because one

611
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:14,630
of the things I was trying to identify

612
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:19,585
was whether or not those assets and things

613
00:32:19,585 --> 00:32:22,625
that you're reporting on, sometimes they don't exist

614
00:32:22,625 --> 00:32:24,945
as an actual inventory item. Right. Like a

615
00:32:24,945 --> 00:32:27,745
sidewalk. In a sidewalk or a pothole that

616
00:32:27,745 --> 00:32:31,519
appears in a roadway. How do you manage

617
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,559
a nonexistent inventory or a nonexistent issue in

618
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:42,240
the asset system? Right. Jeff, do you want

619
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,345
to start on smart energy systems, your findings?

620
00:32:53,665 --> 00:32:56,225
I think they provided some of the best

621
00:32:56,225 --> 00:32:58,670
individuals as far as so that we could

622
00:32:58,670 --> 00:33:00,670
actually see what the system would look and

623
00:33:00,670 --> 00:33:06,590
feel like. Got the impression from their response

624
00:33:06,590 --> 00:33:08,430
that it was fully capable on top of

625
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:11,265
the smartphone features. I like the dashboard. It

626
00:33:11,265 --> 00:33:12,865
binds me up by the rec track system

627
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:16,145
that we use for recreation management. But I

628
00:33:16,145 --> 00:33:17,665
think, you know, the impressions that I got

629
00:33:17,665 --> 00:33:19,745
was the infield reporting and and the ability

630
00:33:19,745 --> 00:33:21,185
to use it out in the field in

631
00:33:21,185 --> 00:33:24,545
real time. Kind of exactly what we're looking

632
00:33:24,545 --> 00:33:28,630
through. That was a proposal. NNGIS questions were

633
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:30,390
answered to me, but I think the integration

634
00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:34,470
of that was clear in that presentation. It

635
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:38,070
seemed like they do have most municipal applications

636
00:33:38,390 --> 00:33:43,115
from their client reference sheets. I think without,

637
00:33:43,115 --> 00:33:44,715
I didn't make a note, I think I

638
00:33:44,715 --> 00:33:47,995
remember I don't believe they provided contact information

639
00:33:47,995 --> 00:33:49,675
for the references. Think it was available. Right.

640
00:33:52,650 --> 00:33:55,610
It's fine, but I think having those client

641
00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:58,250
references would be helpful to know who we

642
00:33:58,250 --> 00:34:00,730
can contact just to get some more feedback

643
00:34:00,730 --> 00:34:03,370
from them. Think from a budget standpoint, again,

644
00:34:03,370 --> 00:34:05,690
was in line with what we currently have

645
00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:10,815
budgeted for, but overall, very impressed, at least

646
00:34:10,815 --> 00:34:13,614
what we could see through their response. I

647
00:34:13,614 --> 00:34:16,255
like it it met our needs, and I

648
00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:18,494
really like some of the asset management as

649
00:34:18,494 --> 00:34:21,130
well as that infield reporting and kind of

650
00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:24,650
real time activity. But then I'll kind of

651
00:34:24,650 --> 00:34:29,210
take it over. Patrick? Yes, I agree with

652
00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:32,170
everything you said. And, you know, I spoke

653
00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:37,315
about them earlier. I completely agree. Yeah, I

654
00:34:37,315 --> 00:34:41,795
definitely had a lot of positive things when

655
00:34:41,795 --> 00:34:43,315
I was going through it with them as

656
00:34:43,315 --> 00:34:46,114
far as their chat capabilities look very user

657
00:34:46,114 --> 00:34:50,190
friendly. Their mobile systems, like the navigation is

658
00:34:50,190 --> 00:34:52,030
fully supported, but they also have these little

659
00:34:52,030 --> 00:34:55,070
modules. And they are like very easy to

660
00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:58,750
look at, you know, from the user's standpoint,

661
00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:01,070
whether it's following up with a work order

662
00:35:01,070 --> 00:35:04,205
or, passing it on, having to distribute that

663
00:35:04,205 --> 00:35:06,685
to the team or approvals. I thought the

664
00:35:06,685 --> 00:35:08,285
flow was very good and of course they

665
00:35:08,285 --> 00:35:12,125
do have the integration. Seeing it demonstrated would

666
00:35:12,125 --> 00:35:18,750
really prove helpful, very useful. I know we

667
00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:24,350
were looking for reporting and analysis capabilities that

668
00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:27,310
were going to be beneficial to the workforce

669
00:35:27,310 --> 00:35:29,470
to get right to what they need to

670
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:33,225
do. The one thing I did not get

671
00:35:33,225 --> 00:35:35,945
from these were was whether or not the

672
00:35:35,945 --> 00:35:38,585
level of custom ability, you know, customization that

673
00:35:38,585 --> 00:35:41,945
we can implement. Mhmm. You know, being a

674
00:35:41,945 --> 00:35:45,359
SaaS or, know, hosted solution, we normally don't

675
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:48,400
have access to the data. But the reporting

676
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,079
tools that are utilized in order for us

677
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:51,680
to be able to say, I need to

678
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,000
create a report that you never thought of,

679
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:56,815
or go through a cycle of working with

680
00:35:56,815 --> 00:35:58,895
you to figure out how do I design

681
00:35:58,895 --> 00:36:01,295
exactly what I need because you haven't thought

682
00:36:01,295 --> 00:36:03,055
of it yet. So that was like the

683
00:36:03,055 --> 00:36:06,415
only thing that kind of wavered. And I

684
00:36:06,415 --> 00:36:09,055
think looking at their presentation kind of brought

685
00:36:09,055 --> 00:36:12,130
that up in my mind to say, I

686
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:13,890
should go back and look at it, what

687
00:36:13,890 --> 00:36:19,250
everyone has. Because that's an IT standpoint, that's

688
00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:21,410
something we come across to set. We like

689
00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:22,930
to have a little bit more hands in

690
00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:25,330
and controls rather than having package reports. We

691
00:36:25,330 --> 00:36:28,025
can actually go in and say, oh, what

692
00:36:28,025 --> 00:36:29,384
can we do with the report other than

693
00:36:29,384 --> 00:36:32,744
take the package item? So but overall, it

694
00:36:32,744 --> 00:36:35,545
was a very good presentation. So what you're

695
00:36:35,545 --> 00:36:38,825
saying is like having already pre done, ready

696
00:36:38,825 --> 00:36:41,220
to go reports or versus one that you

697
00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:43,380
want to create, like something specific. Right. Well,

698
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:45,220
like you have pre, you have packaged your

699
00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:47,700
canned reports. They look great. They're perfect. Got

700
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:49,940
it. But then you're saying, but there's some

701
00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:53,300
variable or something that I want to customize

702
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:57,135
because now this is something that, you know,

703
00:36:57,135 --> 00:36:58,575
it's not a it's not a thing we

704
00:36:58,575 --> 00:37:00,734
can do in a CAN report because it's

705
00:37:00,734 --> 00:37:03,055
not available, but we can work with someone

706
00:37:03,055 --> 00:37:05,615
or we can have controls to do it

707
00:37:05,615 --> 00:37:14,530
ourselves. Tim? Touch on the negative airflow briefly,

708
00:37:14,609 --> 00:37:17,170
the references which you brought up, not like

709
00:37:17,170 --> 00:37:19,890
the contact information was not included. Yeah, we'll

710
00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:28,065
disclose later in consideration. That being said, they

711
00:37:28,065 --> 00:37:29,585
had a couple of extra things in there

712
00:37:29,585 --> 00:37:31,744
that I didn't see mentioned in the proposals.

713
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,120
One is an asset risk score. This is

714
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200
in a realm of really a true enterprise

715
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,800
asset management, again, that has many components. That

716
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,240
last component is beyond the asset management, beyond

717
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,535
the work order management, into how is this

718
00:37:49,535 --> 00:37:53,135
asset performing? We need to look at replacing

719
00:37:53,135 --> 00:37:56,575
this. I didn't see where we could provide

720
00:37:56,575 --> 00:37:59,615
information to some of these applications, provide information

721
00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:01,589
that you can use as backup for a

722
00:38:01,589 --> 00:38:05,750
capital improvement project. You say it did or

723
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:07,349
did not? I didn't see where it did

724
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:09,109
You mean in any of them, right? In

725
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:15,185
any of them? No. If it's not in

726
00:38:15,185 --> 00:38:17,345
the specification to do that, then you're kind

727
00:38:17,345 --> 00:38:19,985
of searching outside of that range. We didn't

728
00:38:19,985 --> 00:38:23,665
identify that. It's a value added benefit. That's

729
00:38:23,665 --> 00:38:25,185
why I wanna make sure that that was

730
00:38:25,185 --> 00:38:26,625
laid out in the spec that we want.

731
00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:32,050
Not being restricted. Yeah, you can't really upgrade

732
00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:33,490
on it or evaluate on that. Should have

733
00:38:33,490 --> 00:38:35,410
the criteria that we have. Right. What was

734
00:38:35,410 --> 00:38:38,130
inside the spec? Well, I'm not really. Broader

735
00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:41,275
comment about that kind of application. So, straight

736
00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:46,875
to comment. The other was specifically mentioning to

737
00:38:46,875 --> 00:38:50,155
select the assets want more to create to

738
00:38:50,155 --> 00:38:54,060
work over from that DIS map. Any of

739
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:56,460
these things, especially in terms of buried assets,

740
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:59,660
such as saltwater, these things are not done

741
00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:01,740
for their ID in different locations. They don't

742
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:04,700
go by an address. You may be saying,

743
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:08,385
but this is the on the site. This

744
00:39:08,385 --> 00:39:10,065
thing here, I need to open up a

745
00:39:10,065 --> 00:39:12,705
work order against these one more features here.

746
00:39:13,025 --> 00:39:17,105
That was something that was in spec. I

747
00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:19,345
really recall seeing that really mentioned in the

748
00:39:19,345 --> 00:39:22,640
others, but I didn't find it mention it

749
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,000
near specific. Again, I tried to go back

750
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,079
and look at different things as I was

751
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,520
reading through this. A couple of high points,

752
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,734
a lot of that negative. Okay, so last

753
00:39:35,734 --> 00:39:38,214
but not least, Zeeling. Jeff, do you want

754
00:39:38,214 --> 00:39:52,670
to cover that? Comments, think from again, from

755
00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:54,110
a budget standpoint, I think it was a

756
00:39:54,110 --> 00:40:02,030
lot. We did have the, like we've got

757
00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:04,194
to mention before, I think it was format

758
00:40:04,194 --> 00:40:09,395
of as built focused kind of facility underground.

759
00:40:09,395 --> 00:40:11,875
So I'd be curious on some of the

760
00:40:11,875 --> 00:40:13,714
other things around that scope because I didn't

761
00:40:13,714 --> 00:40:16,770
really see a lot on asset management outside

762
00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:20,210
of buildings was the question that I got.

763
00:40:20,530 --> 00:40:23,570
They did have a mobile platform, which again

764
00:40:23,570 --> 00:40:25,330
seemed like it could be integrated with the

765
00:40:25,330 --> 00:40:32,345
field work. Municipal applications are minimal from what

766
00:40:32,345 --> 00:40:38,345
I can tell. They had a lot of

767
00:40:38,345 --> 00:40:43,625
like Department of Transportation, some counties, but I

768
00:40:43,625 --> 00:40:48,290
think it was more kind of building property

769
00:40:48,290 --> 00:40:51,810
maintenance. I wasn't sure on the, you know,

770
00:40:51,810 --> 00:40:54,690
kind of park applications, work order systems, things

771
00:40:54,690 --> 00:40:57,250
like that, but that was kind of my

772
00:40:57,250 --> 00:40:59,250
quick synopsis of that, but I know they

773
00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:01,490
were heavily focused on kind of as builds,

774
00:41:01,955 --> 00:41:03,955
but they did reference, you know, other other

775
00:41:03,955 --> 00:41:07,315
kind of maintenance type plans and it seemed

776
00:41:07,315 --> 00:41:10,275
to be pretty mobile friendly from what I

777
00:41:10,275 --> 00:41:11,955
could tell but again, I think all of

778
00:41:11,955 --> 00:41:15,715
that might be out to. Presentage. Yeah. So.

779
00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:21,460
I agree. So for me, with Z Link,

780
00:41:21,460 --> 00:41:24,020
they didn't mention chat capabilities. They did say

781
00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:27,380
they kind of support a workflow sequence. But

782
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:29,780
they didn't mention like a unique work order

783
00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:32,260
numbering, you know, because that's really important, just

784
00:41:32,385 --> 00:41:35,025
using the system that even we have one

785
00:41:35,025 --> 00:41:36,705
of the things we were concerned with. It

786
00:41:36,705 --> 00:41:39,105
is GIS supported, but again, Tim expressed a

787
00:41:39,105 --> 00:41:41,985
lot of concern regarding their math and their

788
00:41:41,985 --> 00:41:47,190
actual asset. So another thing I had was

789
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:49,750
they do support preventive maintenance, but they didn't

790
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:52,230
really fully explain the automation. Automation is important

791
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:54,390
for us because again, an AC needs to

792
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:57,510
be automatically a work order should just be

793
00:41:57,510 --> 00:42:01,075
generated at six month interval, year interval, whatever.

794
00:42:01,075 --> 00:42:02,194
We need to be able to see that

795
00:42:02,194 --> 00:42:07,234
that's possible. Their search functionalities seem a little

796
00:42:07,234 --> 00:42:10,115
complicated. It doesn't seem user friendly. Their alerts

797
00:42:10,115 --> 00:42:11,795
are supported, but I need to see how

798
00:42:11,795 --> 00:42:15,200
the timelines work on overdue tasks. Their attachments

799
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,920
can only be viewed web based versions and

800
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,240
not easily accessible to staff performing work orders

801
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,119
with mobile devices. Their mobile version is limited

802
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,359
because the entire platform operates in a browser

803
00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:28,545
window that's mostly a common application for a

804
00:42:28,545 --> 00:42:31,905
desktop. So the handheld tablets and smartphones, while

805
00:42:31,905 --> 00:42:34,065
you can access it, it's not necessarily built

806
00:42:34,065 --> 00:42:39,825
for mobile, per se, visually, aesthetically for the

807
00:42:39,825 --> 00:42:43,280
end user. And then it doesn't support mobile

808
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,600
navigation. So those are my concerns for them.

809
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,240
The one thing you hit on was I

810
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:55,040
did not see where the in IT, we

811
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,704
call it responsive design. So even though you

812
00:42:57,704 --> 00:43:00,904
have a web based application and you want

813
00:43:00,904 --> 00:43:02,664
people to go to the web based application

814
00:43:02,664 --> 00:43:04,184
and they, oh, you can use it on

815
00:43:04,184 --> 00:43:06,664
a tablet or mobile phone, well, when I

816
00:43:06,664 --> 00:43:09,144
go to those other devices, I expect the

817
00:43:09,144 --> 00:43:13,670
interface to completely change and, work with my

818
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:17,030
scale. A full screen website should come down

819
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:18,630
to a half screen on a tablet, which

820
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:23,590
should come down to maybe some modified menus

821
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:25,750
and modules in order for me to operate

822
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:27,355
it from a cell phone. You kind of

823
00:43:27,355 --> 00:43:30,555
want to see that consolidation of the design

824
00:43:30,875 --> 00:43:36,475
come in. Technical wise, I did like that

825
00:43:36,475 --> 00:43:42,830
from a programming perspective, like, okay, well, there's

826
00:43:42,830 --> 00:43:44,750
some good coding going on here, some good

827
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:47,950
design, but then it's over complicated. It's pad

828
00:43:47,950 --> 00:43:49,630
drawings. That's what saying. For a project manager,

829
00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:52,110
yes, it's kind of cool to be able

830
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:54,910
to see those drawings and that level of

831
00:43:54,910 --> 00:43:58,425
complexity is great for me. But for the

832
00:43:58,425 --> 00:43:59,865
users. But for the end user and the

833
00:43:59,865 --> 00:44:02,185
people that might be having to execute or

834
00:44:02,185 --> 00:44:03,865
initiate on a worker, they're going to look

835
00:44:03,865 --> 00:44:04,985
at this and go, I don't know what

836
00:44:04,985 --> 00:44:06,025
to do with this. I don't know how

837
00:44:06,025 --> 00:44:07,305
to operate around because it's a little bit

838
00:44:07,305 --> 00:44:14,600
technical or I agree. Tim? Yeah. Agree with

839
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,119
that. Looks good. And, just to reiterate some

840
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:21,400
thank you for, they've sort of got this

841
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,445
growing focus. It's not really needed. It's an

842
00:44:25,445 --> 00:44:29,765
overlap with existing products. Not really spreading and

843
00:44:29,765 --> 00:44:32,405
branching out to what kind of the integration

844
00:44:32,405 --> 00:44:36,839
that we're talking about at this level. The

845
00:44:36,839 --> 00:44:40,200
references seem to be more limited in maintenance.

846
00:44:41,319 --> 00:44:42,759
And then there was one that was a

847
00:44:42,759 --> 00:44:44,839
little bit more broader that was matched here,

848
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,440
but a lot of work necessarily is what

849
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,599
was presented to us in the same kind

850
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:57,105
of broad It is makes mention of managing

851
00:44:57,105 --> 00:45:01,025
drawings and maps, importing drawings and maps. That's

852
00:45:01,025 --> 00:45:04,800
not really the integration. Correct. That's the data

853
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,760
here. So, with all that being said, I

854
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,960
definitely want to recommend a presentation. I know

855
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,200
we're probably in Houston and in agreement with

856
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,275
that. What I'm gonna say is, it seems

857
00:45:18,275 --> 00:45:20,755
like you all went through very thorough, great

858
00:45:20,755 --> 00:45:23,795
job, you guys sat down and went through

859
00:45:23,795 --> 00:45:26,434
this process. It sounds like you have a

860
00:45:26,434 --> 00:45:29,880
lot of key points you want here. Done

861
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,400
with that part, I think that maybe the

862
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,480
next step you may want to recognize. I'm

863
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,280
just recommending again your your guiding the process

864
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,680
here, but you may wanna go to a

865
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,680
ranking to see how everybody lays out, what

866
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,474
you're thinking at this point. Mhmm. When you

867
00:45:42,474 --> 00:45:44,155
do an initial scoring, it can be the

868
00:45:44,315 --> 00:45:45,515
you know, and then you can look at

869
00:45:45,515 --> 00:45:46,955
the scoring and see what it lays out,

870
00:45:46,955 --> 00:45:48,635
if you all agree with it, and you

871
00:45:48,635 --> 00:45:51,115
can talk about do you want to shortlist

872
00:45:51,115 --> 00:45:52,395
or do you wanna bring them all back

873
00:45:52,395 --> 00:45:56,690
for presentations? Or if you feel like you

874
00:45:56,690 --> 00:45:58,369
want to bring them all for presentations right

875
00:45:58,369 --> 00:46:00,530
now, we need to close it down and

876
00:46:00,609 --> 00:46:02,930
bring everybody back in presentations. It's up to

877
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:06,369
you. All right. That's what I was gonna

878
00:46:06,369 --> 00:46:09,345
ask Brian. I think maybe can we preliminarily

879
00:46:09,345 --> 00:46:12,465
score have a separate have a follow-up conversation

880
00:46:12,465 --> 00:46:15,185
and then determine who you operate for presentation?

881
00:46:15,185 --> 00:46:16,465
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what I was

882
00:46:16,465 --> 00:46:19,825
saying. So we talk a little more in-depth

883
00:46:19,825 --> 00:46:22,040
about who might be top one, two, three,

884
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,040
then if there's any major discrepancies, we can

885
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,800
narrow those down. Yeah. That's what I would

886
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,000
say. That's how I do the scoring right

887
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,360
now, and let's see how it lays out.

888
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Mhmm. And then you go from there. Alright.

889
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,655
I agree. That sounds good. You You want

890
00:46:37,655 --> 00:46:39,015
us to do it on the score sheet?

891
00:46:39,095 --> 00:46:45,095
Yeah. Yeah. You need a calculator, Jeff. I'm

892
00:46:45,095 --> 00:46:47,335
not doing that. Pulling too many. You got

893
00:46:47,335 --> 00:46:49,815
one score. He needs a calculator. Only four.

894
00:46:50,730 --> 00:47:10,275
There's only four. Give Jeff extra time. That's

895
00:47:10,275 --> 00:47:11,955
all good. Two of them. I really wanna

896
00:47:11,955 --> 00:47:15,075
make sure to When I see fair and

897
00:47:15,075 --> 00:47:54,730
effective. Overall, I'm good. Points. I need to

898
00:47:54,730 --> 00:47:58,090
go. You're an old, Jeff. You're an old.

899
00:48:04,905 --> 00:48:41,280
What happened once I hit you? Scores on

900
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,720
the board is so exciting. It's like running

901
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:48,560
a basketball game, hitting the scoreboard. It's really

902
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,640
cool. Is? First time I've seen it done.

903
00:48:50,960 --> 00:49:07,700
It's pretty cool. Wow. Really surprised. Interesting there.

904
00:49:10,660 --> 00:49:13,060
I didn't think anybody would agree with me.

905
00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:17,540
Why do you say that now? Because everybody

906
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:41,380
hates ITs response. Can you please just review

907
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:43,140
the screen? Make sure that you agree with

908
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:53,315
those numbers that match your numbers. Everybody's reviewed

909
00:49:53,315 --> 00:49:56,035
it. All agreed. That's the way it lays

910
00:49:56,035 --> 00:50:00,755
out. Yes. Thanks. Okay. We have, it's like

911
00:50:00,810 --> 00:50:04,490
smart energy systems or smart water, ranked number

912
00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:09,530
one, eight eight star. Number two, and you've

913
00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:12,410
got your, which is DVA mass group three

914
00:50:12,410 --> 00:50:18,975
and ceiling incorporated four. K. So when we

915
00:50:18,975 --> 00:50:20,895
first started our dialogue today, I I told

916
00:50:20,895 --> 00:50:23,615
you that this was '19. I also said

917
00:50:23,615 --> 00:50:25,215
that you can get a presentation. We're all

918
00:50:25,215 --> 00:50:29,460
available if you talk about wanting presentations. So

919
00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:32,740
I'd recommend I would recommend now to have

920
00:50:32,740 --> 00:50:35,700
a discussion in what we want to bring

921
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,540
back in the presentations. One, and three. Four

922
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:42,020
copies here. One, two, three. And one of

923
00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:43,300
the things I I want to let you

924
00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:47,785
know in presentations, you don't want companies to

925
00:50:47,785 --> 00:50:50,105
come back and reiterate what they put in

926
00:50:50,105 --> 00:50:52,345
their fault. That's not what we want. Mhmm.

927
00:50:52,345 --> 00:50:54,585
Okay? We want them to come back. We're

928
00:50:54,585 --> 00:50:57,385
gonna ask you as the committee. You talk

929
00:50:57,385 --> 00:51:00,400
about report. K? And then basically can versus,

930
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,080
custom kind of reporting, but, you know, doing

931
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,640
demonstrations. We're gonna ask for these things so

932
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,640
that when they come, they're gonna have a

933
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,040
tailored talking points, and that's what we really

934
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,174
want them to really delve into. That's one

935
00:51:14,174 --> 00:51:15,615
of the things that will come with these

936
00:51:15,615 --> 00:51:18,414
presentations. Going to hone them down to where

937
00:51:18,414 --> 00:51:21,375
are things that you've talked about and didn't

938
00:51:21,375 --> 00:51:23,454
see those things. Where is that integration? How

939
00:51:23,454 --> 00:51:25,900
does that work? So we're gonna get your

940
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:27,980
questions and we're gonna tell them to tailor

941
00:51:27,980 --> 00:51:30,860
to these talking points and not just basically

942
00:51:30,860 --> 00:51:33,180
reiterate the same thing over because there's no

943
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:37,100
reason for that. So with that being said,

944
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,885
how do you wanna proceed with who do

945
00:51:39,885 --> 00:51:41,965
you want to bring back the presentations at

946
00:51:41,965 --> 00:51:44,685
this point? You want to bring back? Four?

947
00:51:45,005 --> 00:51:48,765
Three? Three. I'd say since we all agreed

948
00:51:48,765 --> 00:51:52,500
that the we voted four on ZLink, that

949
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:55,220
Z Link will be excluded. And then we

950
00:51:55,220 --> 00:51:56,660
go back and look at the ones where

951
00:51:56,660 --> 00:51:59,700
we're wavering between one to three scores for

952
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:03,540
the top three. Everybody agree with that? Yes.

953
00:52:06,875 --> 00:52:09,755
Okay. The majority has basically the top three.

954
00:52:09,755 --> 00:52:14,795
So we'll right now, Seelink will drop them

955
00:52:14,795 --> 00:52:20,030
out. We'll bring the feedback from Inkstar, DBA

956
00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:24,430
Mass Group, and Smart Energy Water for presentations.

957
00:52:24,590 --> 00:52:27,230
So that being said, everybody agrees with that?

958
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:31,710
Yes. Okay. That that concludes that part of,

959
00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:35,705
of the discussion. Next piece is, again, this

960
00:52:35,705 --> 00:52:40,105
is informational, we're gonna ask you to put

961
00:52:40,105 --> 00:52:44,985
your questions together. Do not cc everybody. Do

962
00:52:44,985 --> 00:52:47,225
it send it send it to your emails

963
00:52:47,225 --> 00:52:52,789
to Rebecca separately. You are in silence. You're

964
00:52:52,789 --> 00:52:56,869
in basically, I've heard the, you know, Sunshine

965
00:52:56,869 --> 00:52:58,950
Law has an ad hoc page, so you're

966
00:52:58,950 --> 00:53:01,829
not having discussions amongst each other. But so

967
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:03,955
send those, and we're not having group chat

968
00:53:03,955 --> 00:53:05,555
and email or anything like that. So that

969
00:53:05,555 --> 00:53:08,755
way we're just sending those individually. What Rebecca

970
00:53:08,755 --> 00:53:11,475
will do is compile all those questions back.

971
00:53:11,955 --> 00:53:14,355
She'll send them each individually to you so

972
00:53:14,355 --> 00:53:16,435
you can review all of them, and then

973
00:53:16,435 --> 00:53:17,955
we're gonna send it out to the company.

974
00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:21,310
Send it out to the companies if there's

975
00:53:21,310 --> 00:53:23,950
anything in between that you feel redundant or

976
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:26,510
whatever you can make comments to that but

977
00:53:26,510 --> 00:53:28,270
again what we're gonna try to do is

978
00:53:28,270 --> 00:53:29,870
hone this in so you had a question

979
00:53:29,870 --> 00:53:33,645
question or request yeah So it's for all

980
00:53:33,645 --> 00:53:36,045
of them, right? One big list for all

981
00:53:36,045 --> 00:53:39,965
of them, Okay. And then when they have,

982
00:53:40,205 --> 00:53:42,605
when they're doing their presentation, will we be

983
00:53:42,605 --> 00:53:44,285
able to have dialogue in case we have

984
00:53:44,285 --> 00:53:49,930
like an extra question? The presentation aspect is

985
00:53:49,930 --> 00:53:53,130
question and answer. That comes basically, that is

986
00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:55,210
when the time, like obviously today I said

987
00:53:55,210 --> 00:53:57,290
at the very beginning, thank you for attending,

988
00:53:57,290 --> 00:53:58,970
but we're not having that dialogue with you

989
00:53:58,970 --> 00:54:00,765
here. They were sitting here in the audience.

990
00:54:01,005 --> 00:54:07,085
A lot of times that's a very opportunistic

991
00:54:07,085 --> 00:54:08,525
people like, hey, by the way, can you

992
00:54:08,525 --> 00:54:09,964
tell me about this? That's not why we

993
00:54:09,964 --> 00:54:11,885
have that. We want to focus on them.

994
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,760
Those are closed door meetings. They're publicly advertised,

995
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,000
but they're closed door meetings. So basically, it's

996
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,200
us having discussions with them. This information will

997
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,680
be available once we conclude the whole process,

998
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,200
but we want to give them the time

999
00:54:25,375 --> 00:54:27,535
to have that and again, there's a lot

1000
00:54:27,535 --> 00:54:29,055
of information to go through so we're gonna

1001
00:54:29,055 --> 00:54:30,975
have to think about time. We'll talk about

1002
00:54:30,975 --> 00:54:32,895
that those elements in a few seconds as

1003
00:54:32,895 --> 00:54:36,015
well, but we want to give them time

1004
00:54:36,015 --> 00:54:38,849
to go through those talking points that you're

1005
00:54:38,849 --> 00:54:40,210
gonna be talking about, and it sounds like

1006
00:54:40,210 --> 00:54:42,770
he wants some demonstrations now. So that, you

1007
00:54:42,770 --> 00:54:45,890
know, even if it's bringing stuff in, touch,

1008
00:54:45,890 --> 00:54:47,650
feel, you know, if there's something on the

1009
00:54:47,650 --> 00:54:50,685
left like that. Yes. You know, you gotta

1010
00:54:50,685 --> 00:54:52,845
be specific on some of those requests. You

1011
00:54:52,845 --> 00:54:54,365
know, as far as, hey, if you want

1012
00:54:54,365 --> 00:54:56,365
to bring in a tablet, show us how

1013
00:54:56,365 --> 00:54:58,685
it works on a tablet, bring in a

1014
00:54:58,685 --> 00:55:00,365
mobile phone with the apps that we can

1015
00:55:00,365 --> 00:55:03,325
do this, bring in these applications so that

1016
00:55:03,325 --> 00:55:05,245
we can see a live environment that is

1017
00:55:05,245 --> 00:55:07,380
really working in. Just keep in mind those

1018
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:11,619
questions when you put those down then they're

1019
00:55:11,619 --> 00:55:14,819
prepared and they all know coming back these

1020
00:55:14,819 --> 00:55:17,140
are the things we want. So did I

1021
00:55:17,140 --> 00:55:25,865
answer your question? My question is in regards

1022
00:55:25,865 --> 00:55:28,984
to so the my responses and things that

1023
00:55:28,984 --> 00:55:30,665
I'll be asking for in the demonstration are

1024
00:55:30,665 --> 00:55:33,810
going be based on the list of major

1025
00:55:33,810 --> 00:55:35,970
bullet points of what we're looking for in

1026
00:55:35,970 --> 00:55:40,450
there. When they come to do presentations, I'm

1027
00:55:40,450 --> 00:55:43,570
able to ask questions that are maybe outside.

1028
00:55:43,570 --> 00:55:46,930
Yeah, some follow-up things like that. Okay, okay.

1029
00:55:47,090 --> 00:55:49,365
Right, it's not just you're not limited to

1030
00:55:49,365 --> 00:55:51,445
those questions. Those are starting points. Those are

1031
00:55:51,445 --> 00:55:53,045
really things that you want them to dial

1032
00:55:53,445 --> 00:55:56,005
in. You're going to have, you know, they're

1033
00:55:56,005 --> 00:55:57,365
going to do a presentation and they're going

1034
00:55:57,365 --> 00:55:58,645
to get into a Q and A period

1035
00:55:58,645 --> 00:56:00,579
of time afterwards. So, you're not going to

1036
00:56:00,579 --> 00:56:03,859
be muted. And we can Right. Because I

1037
00:56:03,859 --> 00:56:05,859
mean, obviously through demonstration, you're going to see

1038
00:56:05,859 --> 00:56:07,700
something. And I might add like 50 other

1039
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:10,099
questions from what I just saw. Right. So

1040
00:56:10,099 --> 00:56:13,865
again, like from past experience, what I've seen

1041
00:56:13,865 --> 00:56:15,625
is giving them the time to let them

1042
00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:18,425
go through and give them, you know, there's

1043
00:56:18,425 --> 00:56:19,945
a dialogue where they want you to stop

1044
00:56:19,945 --> 00:56:22,185
and let them to interject into it. It

1045
00:56:22,185 --> 00:56:23,785
gets difficult, but we like to try to

1046
00:56:23,785 --> 00:56:25,785
give them as a defined amount of time.

1047
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,360
We tell them forty five minutes, this is

1048
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,720
probably going be up to forty five minute

1049
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:33,240
presentation. Would imagine somewhere in a typically dummy

1050
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,240
if you could even that's a lot. That's

1051
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,480
a lot. Is it too much? Do you

1052
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,560
think for a presentation? Per vendor? Are you

1053
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:44,255
saying per vendor? Thirty minutes. Thirty minutes max.

1054
00:56:57,940 --> 00:57:00,099
Me personally I think a thirty minute presentation

1055
00:57:00,099 --> 00:57:02,900
followed by question and answer I think is

1056
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:04,900
probably sufficient and then you know I think

1057
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:07,695
we can narrow it down from there. So

1058
00:57:08,494 --> 00:57:10,815
we'll do that we'll set up the three,

1059
00:57:11,214 --> 00:57:13,694
we'll be contacting them and then setting out

1060
00:57:13,694 --> 00:57:15,375
that you know we're gonna talk about dates

1061
00:57:15,375 --> 00:57:18,520
in a second but we'll contact them we'll

1062
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,040
give them a first number to serve on

1063
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,120
basically who's available for time slots for that

1064
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,600
day but now we need to identify the

1065
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,280
date so and enough time to give them

1066
00:57:31,555 --> 00:57:34,835
a you put your question and then be

1067
00:57:35,635 --> 00:57:40,195
putting it together. Yeah if you want them

1068
00:57:40,195 --> 00:57:44,355
here, like everybody, you want them here physically.

1069
00:57:44,530 --> 00:57:47,970
Yes yes okay I think it's important for

1070
00:57:47,970 --> 00:57:49,970
us to have a tablet have a smartphone

1071
00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:51,650
see if we can figure it out I

1072
00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:53,890
don't know if we can really capture that

1073
00:57:57,405 --> 00:57:59,485
So I'll be Is that okay with the

1074
00:57:59,485 --> 00:58:00,765
rest of the committee? Mean, do feel the

1075
00:58:00,765 --> 00:58:03,485
same way? Yes. Somebody in front of you.

1076
00:58:03,485 --> 00:58:04,925
No. No. No. We I agree with that.

1077
00:58:04,925 --> 00:58:07,485
100 course to your benefit. Right now, council

1078
00:58:07,485 --> 00:58:10,125
is out to the summer after June. First

1079
00:58:10,125 --> 00:58:14,420
meeting in June. They come back the July.

1080
00:58:16,180 --> 00:58:18,579
June eighth and then the July. Right. So

1081
00:58:18,579 --> 00:58:19,940
you've had a good period of time. So,

1082
00:58:19,940 --> 00:58:21,619
I mean, if you want, not to say

1083
00:58:21,619 --> 00:58:22,900
that you want to put you have some

1084
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:24,579
time before you leave, bring us to the

1085
00:58:24,579 --> 00:58:26,735
next. Oh, I think the recommendation. I think

1086
00:58:26,735 --> 00:58:29,295
they're all out of town actors too, I

1087
00:58:29,295 --> 00:58:31,455
believe. Correct? I would imagine. I don't know

1088
00:58:31,455 --> 00:58:33,535
whether I didn't look specifically at that. So,

1089
00:58:33,535 --> 00:58:35,855
again, just take into consideration travel arrangements for

1090
00:58:35,855 --> 00:58:41,069
them but also, first of all here, when

1091
00:58:41,069 --> 00:58:43,869
can you get your questions to Rebecca? Rebecca,

1092
00:58:44,269 --> 00:58:54,135
well, when you get that. So can we

1093
00:58:54,135 --> 00:58:59,095
set up in here? Monday? Tuesday? So by

1094
00:58:59,095 --> 00:59:00,695
the June 7, can you have all your

1095
00:59:00,695 --> 00:59:03,095
questions to us? Yes. No. I can. Okay.

1096
00:59:03,095 --> 00:59:05,175
We just wanna give you enough time. Again,

1097
00:59:05,175 --> 00:59:10,349
June 7. Have more questions as far as

1098
00:59:10,349 --> 00:59:13,549
a date for this? After the June 20

1099
00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:16,349
for me. Okay, so we'd probably maybe look

1100
00:59:16,349 --> 00:59:21,605
at maybe the July. Yeah. Mhmm. That's The

1101
00:59:21,605 --> 00:59:28,565
second week in July? Sounds perfect. Yeah. The

1102
00:59:28,565 --> 00:59:30,085
second week in July. Right, Joe? The twenty

1103
00:59:30,085 --> 00:59:36,110
ninth. Either the sec the June and the

1104
00:59:36,110 --> 00:59:39,950
July 2. Yeah. July probably works. Again, we

1105
00:59:39,950 --> 00:59:41,310
wanna make sure that they have enough time

1106
00:59:41,310 --> 00:59:42,830
to put everything together for how long do

1107
00:59:42,830 --> 00:59:47,630
all that stuff. So, July would be how

1108
00:59:47,630 --> 00:59:52,295
about twelve or thirteen? Twelve is a good

1109
00:59:52,295 --> 00:59:56,535
day. Twelve is good. Yeah. Twelve? Very little

1110
00:59:56,535 --> 00:59:59,735
bit more. Twelve? Yes. I'm very Of July.

1111
00:59:59,735 --> 01:00:02,940
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. Yes.

1112
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:05,740
Okay. Sounds great. After I we'd be looking

1113
01:00:05,740 --> 01:00:08,700
for them to make the arrangement. Because you're

1114
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:13,100
on early morning for you. Mhmm. So, basically,

1115
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:21,635
very smart calendar. To have the demonstrations. So

1116
01:00:21,635 --> 01:00:23,635
what we'll do is try to schedule those

1117
01:00:23,635 --> 01:00:25,795
in the morning, get those knocked out, and

1118
01:00:25,795 --> 01:00:28,434
then depending on their time on however Rebecca

1119
01:00:28,434 --> 01:00:32,490
works this, we'll schedule a subsequent new committee

1120
01:00:32,490 --> 01:00:34,569
meeting that day. So what we'll do is

1121
01:00:34,569 --> 01:00:36,650
we'll go through along it, but it's gonna

1122
01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:39,609
be in presentations, and then we'll move to

1123
01:00:40,410 --> 01:00:43,875
a review committee following that. That becomes and

1124
01:00:43,875 --> 01:00:45,715
that way we can make a recommendation and

1125
01:00:45,715 --> 01:00:48,035
get everything Hopefully, we won't get it. It's

1126
01:00:48,035 --> 01:00:49,795
fresh in your mind. Yes. You know? Well,

1127
01:00:49,795 --> 01:00:53,715
yeah. You or Rebecca be providing lunch and

1128
01:00:53,715 --> 01:00:56,595
breakfast? In large jelly sandwiches, I usually have

1129
01:00:56,595 --> 01:00:58,195
great at making. If you're okay with those,

1130
01:00:58,350 --> 01:01:00,430
I'll make the peanut butter jelly sandwiches. Aside

1131
01:01:00,430 --> 01:01:08,030
from that, no. Okay. But, if if that's

1132
01:01:08,030 --> 01:01:10,750
good, I think we further, anybody else anything

1133
01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:13,715
like that? Alright. Let wanna go ahead and

1134
01:01:13,715 --> 01:01:18,355
end the meeting. Thank you. Support your questions.

1135
01:01:18,835 --> 01:01:21,955
But Rebecca, please. I'll need these back. Right?

1136
01:01:21,955 --> 01:01:23,715
I do need your documents back. Thank you,

1137
01:01:23,715 --> 01:01:25,869
Doug. Mhmm. And we're done.