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last meeting when we

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were talking about.

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College park I

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mentioned a book that I

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had brought up once

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before, and I have it

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with me this evening.

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So we can get that on

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the record and in our

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notes. Is called a

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field guide to

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american houses and

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it's virginia savage

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and mcallister. It's

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used by architects

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historic historic

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tours of historic

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homes it's a great

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reference just so we

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have something to

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utilize when the

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conversation comes up

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in regards to our

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historic homes town.

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Thank you.. I have

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>> one it's not

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necessarily brief.

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We've been receiving

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some documentation

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recently about

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plowing.

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>> that is american

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houses

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>> the site. That was

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proposed for the

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village farms

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development. It seems

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to be fairly well

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documented through

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photographs and in

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person. Observations

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that were done. And

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what's concerning

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about this is that the

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plowing has included

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the 47 acres.

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Evidently, of wetlands

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that were scheduled to

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be set aside in a

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habitat preserve. If

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the village farms

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development had, in

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fact, been approved

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concern about that is

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that this document,

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the biological

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resource assessment

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that was done for the

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village farms project,

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which comprised

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appendix d of the eir

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clearly identifies

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those wetlands as

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what's called waters of

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the united states. In

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other words, they

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recognized by the army

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corps of engineers has

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jurisdiction over the

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federal clean water

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act.. I did make an

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inquiry with staff

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about this as to

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whether or not any of

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the official

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government agencies

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had been informed I

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was informed by sherry

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that, in fact, state

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fish and game has been

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informed. My concern is

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that doesn't go far

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enough because, as I

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said, it's the federal

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army corps of

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engineers and the

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federal. Fish and

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wildlife service that

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have jurisdiction over

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these wetlands. And the

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species. Really not

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much a city can do

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because this territory

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is in the county. So I

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have not had time to do

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it yet, but I intend to

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pursue this with the

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county to see if

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they're going to

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investigate it. All of

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my resources that army

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corps of engineers and

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U.S. Fish and wildlife

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service are somewhat

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older. I think all

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those people are

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retired and the staff

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resources that those

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agencies are somewhat

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but I do find this

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very concerning. That

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an area that's been

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identified just as

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recently as earlier

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this year in an is now

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being plowed up and

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we've e-mails about

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it. And maybe at the

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next meeting, if I have

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some further answers,

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I'll bring those back

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to the commission.

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>> any other

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commissioners with

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announcements?

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SEPTEMBER 30th at 2

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P.M.. I'm going to

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welcome ariel who's a

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professor of planning

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from the east coast,

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and she studies the

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impacts of school

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closures on land use

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there'll be an event

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campus at gm for folks

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who are interested in

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learning more about

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what school closures

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here in davis might

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mean for community

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values. Land use,

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property values. She is

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a national expert, so

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we're lucky to have her

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in town. And then

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first week in OCTOBER,

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the california.

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American planning

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association conference

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is holding its annual

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conference in la. And

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there are sessions

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online for those who

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are interested. And I

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hope this is a

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conference one day that

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we can all attend

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together. Maybe with

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planning staff. It's a

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really great

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conference. It's coming

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to sacramento next

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year, so it'll be

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right next door. Lots

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of really interesting

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sessions, including

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one on hw to deal

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with contentious

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politics as you're

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trying to make policy.

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With that, let me turn

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it over to MADAM Mayor.

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Do you have any

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comments? I don't,

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thank you. And I,

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apologize in advance

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that I have to step

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out in a bit and go to

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another meeting and

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step back in. So it's

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not because I'm not

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interested in what

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you're doing, just so

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you know right.

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Wonderful. With that,

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we're going to open it

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up for public comment.

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And you will receive

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three minutes on the

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clock. So pease

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welcome you to

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planning commission

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good evening. Planning

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commission

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commissioner members

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kathy howard crowe of

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a third generation

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resident of college

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park. I'm also a

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member of the steering

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committee for the

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college park

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neighborhood

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association ad I'm

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speaking on behalf of

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the college park

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neighborhood

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association at the

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request of the history

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committee. And we have

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some members here..

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The college park.

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Neighborhood

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association is a city

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organized city

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sanctioned association

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that represents the

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entire college park

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neighborhood of 48.

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Homes. Thank you for

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your service to the

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community. And to the

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planning commission

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understand that you are

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volunteers and

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appreciate the

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commitment to the

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community. We are also

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working as volunteers

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for the community and

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tonight. Members of

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the college park

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neighborhood

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association history

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committee. This is a

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small representation

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of the community

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members involved as we

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have several

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committees. And dozens

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of members college

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park neighborhood

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association is very

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interested in your

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discussion of our

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historic neighborhood.

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At your SEPTEMBER

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ninth meeting, because

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of this discussion, we

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realized that we

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should have shared

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with you the college

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park neighborhood

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associations letter as

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of AUGUST 4th, 2026 to

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mayor neville and the

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city council. That

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letter, along with the

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relevant city

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ordinance. Along with

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the unidentified

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unadopted design

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guidelines sent to you

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last week. If you did

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not receive it. I

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copies happy to.. The

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college park

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neighborhood

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association. Strongly

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advocates for the city

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to adopt the college

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park historic

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district. Design

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guidelines dated

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SEPTEMBER 30th, 2021.

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Along with historic

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preservation

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incentives described

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in the city ordinance.

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423. We believe these

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essential actions

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bring the city into

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compliance with the

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ordinance and allow the

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community to take

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advantage of the state

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and federal financial

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incentives available

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to historic districts.

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Sincerely appreciate

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your assistance and

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approval of the

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college park historic

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district. Guidelines.

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Process is being

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awaiting completion.

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For 46 years college

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park neighborhood

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association was ready

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and willing to assist

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you as needed in the

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approval process.

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Thank you for your

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time. Thank you. For

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responding to public

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>> next public

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comment, please.

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>> commissioners. I

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mean here regarding

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that happened this

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past week. For those

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of you who haven't

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heard the unthinkable

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has happened as if it

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wasn't bad enough that

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the burrowing owl

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habitat got just two

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years ago the village

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site and then the

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pools. On the same

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site, which is now the

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village farm site. Was

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in 2023, just before

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the eir started but

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then, of course, the

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eir confirmed that

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there were endangered

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species of vernal pool

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tadpole shrimp. And

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rare native plants. La

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native californian

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orleans yet they were

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again. This past week.

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This is a horrendous

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act be tolerated. And

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it makes clear that

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there was never any

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intention to preserve

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these branches face it.

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I mean, the slogan of

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of houses and habitat

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was just a big scam so

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the vernal pools.

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Fortunately survived

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the first the APRIL

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2023, roughly over

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2023, listing. So the

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hope is that they're

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going to survive

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again. But it makes

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clear for the need to

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preserve these pools

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for the conservation

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easement. Since there

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is was no sincerity

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ever to to protect

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them. So please, I

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hope to see this you.

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>> thank you for the

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public comment. There

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any other public

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comments?

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>> hello, my name is

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and I've been

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individually and as a

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member of the rotary

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rotary club, trying to

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do something with the

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boy scout cabin and I

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understand that the

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city of davis has now

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adopted some sort of a

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downtown development

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project. The history of

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that. I don't know you

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are familiar with

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that, but the land was

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owned by the

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university of

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california until about

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3 or 4 years ago. And

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then the city

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purchased it for a

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dollar some of

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individually have been

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trying to get the city

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to do something. And

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quite frankly, it is a

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mess. And as I read

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about this nino and I

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look at the dirt and

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the stuff around that

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cabin the tree stump,

395
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I don't know who's in

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charge of that for the

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city but we've got

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nothing. We've written

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letters to the city

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council guess I would

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urge you as a part of

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this downtown economic

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plan to look at the

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boy scouts as the only

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real attraction.

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Downtown that has a

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historic background

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and that it could be

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made into a park in the

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future. But if we keep

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going, we're going to

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end up demolishing

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that cabin because it's

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not going to survive

415
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many years more. The

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club in 1992.

417
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Completely rebuilt the

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inside of the cabin, so

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it's almost a

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self-sustaining at.

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Least supporting

422
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document. But I'm not

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su with the merging

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of these two

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commissions, the

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historical commission

427
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and the planning

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commission where the

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boy scout cabin is and

430
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the mess. But I would

431
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just urge you to send

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a resolution to the

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city council saying

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something's got to be

435
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done before el nino

436
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comes and completely

437
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destroys it. Thank you

438
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very much.

439
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>> thank you so much

440
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for your public

441
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comment. Are there any

442
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further public

443
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comments? For comment?

444
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We take but we don't

445
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do question and

446
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answer. You can come

447
00:13:00,408 --> 00:13:01,542
forward with these

448
00:13:01,542 --> 00:13:02,143
question, and it's your

449
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prerogative as chair.

450
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If you wish to address

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respond or ask staff to

452
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respond to it, but

453
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only if it's

454
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>> within the purview

455
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of the items on the

456
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agenda. I think that's

457
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a great idea. If you'd

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like to come forward

459
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and ask the question,

460
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we'll see if we can

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potentially have staff

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respond I'm going to

463
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make a little or send

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to staff for answering

465
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at a later date. If

466
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that's more

467
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appropriate

468
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>> carl hiller. I'm

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part of the college

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park group. I've lived

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on college park for 35

472
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years. I'm in general

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agreement with what

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they want to

475
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accomplish here. But

476
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as I time this

477
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afternoon to reread all

478
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this stuff. And some of

479
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the provisions here

480
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are obsolete. Compared

481
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to, you know, in these

482
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what historic

483
00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:50,725
preservation stuff is

484
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compared to what we're

485
00:13:51,859 --> 00:13:53,328
trying to achieve

486
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nowadays, like if you

487
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want to put an

488
00:13:55,129 --> 00:13:57,129
accessory dwelling

489
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units and you require a

490
00:14:00,901 --> 00:14:01,502
one car wide driveway

491
00:14:01,502 --> 00:14:02,370
not the bst way to do

492
00:14:02,370 --> 00:14:03,360
that. You know what I

493
00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,172
mean? That means cars

494
00:14:04,172 --> 00:14:06,273
are going to be on the

495
00:14:06,273 --> 00:14:08,760
street. So what I want

496
00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,645
to do is urge some

497
00:14:10,645 --> 00:14:12,413
flexibility in looking

498
00:14:12,413 --> 00:14:12,981
at all these historic

499
00:14:12,981 --> 00:14:14,215
guidelines, which in

500
00:14:14,215 --> 00:14:15,650
some cases can be a

501
00:14:15,650 --> 00:14:17,850
little rigid and urge

502
00:14:17,850 --> 00:14:17,952
some more flexibility

503
00:14:17,952 --> 00:14:18,887
in how to interpret

504
00:14:18,887 --> 00:14:20,722
those, because some of

505
00:14:20,722 --> 00:14:21,289
them are obsolete what

506
00:14:21,289 --> 00:14:23,591
we want to achieve

507
00:14:23,591 --> 00:14:24,625
these days. Okay.

508
00:14:24,625 --> 00:14:25,193
Thank you.

509
00:14:25,193 --> 00:14:27,193
>> thank you very

510
00:14:29,663 --> 00:14:30,765
much. Right. Seeing no

511
00:14:30,765 --> 00:14:31,265
further public

512
00:14:31,265 --> 00:14:32,233
comments, we're going

513
00:14:32,233 --> 00:14:34,233
to close public

514
00:14:34,335 --> 00:14:35,804
comment and move on to

515
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our consent calendar.

516
00:14:37,605 --> 00:14:40,500
We have two items

517
00:14:41,609 --> 00:14:42,977
before us tonight. One

518
00:14:42,977 --> 00:14:43,744
is a requested second

519
00:14:43,744 --> 00:14:44,612
driveway to an adu and

520
00:14:44,612 --> 00:14:47,120
the other is the

521
00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,821
general plan update..

522
00:14:53,821 --> 00:14:54,422
We're ready

523
00:14:54,422 --> 00:14:55,590
>> right. Thank you

524
00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:56,691
MADAM Chair, and good

525
00:14:56,691 --> 00:14:58,159
evening planning

526
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commission samantha

527
00:14:59,193 --> 00:15:00,628
bailey, assistant

528
00:15:00,628 --> 00:15:01,762
planner. Tonight I'm

529
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be giving a brief

530
00:15:02,430 --> 00:15:04,430
presentation regarding

531
00:15:04,999 --> 00:15:06,434
a request for a

532
00:15:06,434 --> 00:15:08,236
revised final plan

533
00:15:08,236 --> 00:15:09,703
development to allow a

534
00:15:09,703 --> 00:15:10,705
second driveway at

535
00:15:10,705 --> 00:15:12,705
3103 shelter cove

536
00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:16,800
place and the subject

537
00:15:16,177 --> 00:15:17,545
parcel is zoned pd

538
00:15:17,545 --> 00:15:19,545
3174. Is the stone

539
00:15:20,114 --> 00:15:20,682
gate subdivision. All

540
00:15:20,682 --> 00:15:22,216
the surrounding

541
00:15:22,216 --> 00:15:24,180
parcels are also under

542
00:15:24,180 --> 00:15:26,220
that same zoning and

543
00:15:26,220 --> 00:15:26,921
the land use is

544
00:15:26,921 --> 00:15:28,921
residential low

545
00:15:29,823 --> 00:15:30,925
density so the left of

546
00:15:30,925 --> 00:15:32,293
this slide is the

547
00:15:32,293 --> 00:15:33,394
vicinity map. We can

548
00:15:33,394 --> 00:15:34,529
see our project

549
00:15:34,529 --> 00:15:35,963
location is at located

550
00:15:35,963 --> 00:15:38,990
at the end of a cul de

551
00:15:38,990 --> 00:15:39,567
sac. And it's other

552
00:15:39,567 --> 00:15:41,200
single family

553
00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,300
residences to the

554
00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:43,471
right of the slide is

555
00:15:43,471 --> 00:15:44,572
the site plan, which

556
00:15:44,572 --> 00:15:46,400
shows the location o

557
00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:46,908
the driveways as well

558
00:15:46,908 --> 00:15:49,308
as some of the

559
00:15:50,311 --> 00:15:50,912
existing landscaping.

560
00:15:50,912 --> 00:15:52,847
That second driveway

561
00:15:52,847 --> 00:15:54,315
is. Located towards

562
00:15:54,315 --> 00:15:55,750
the southern entrance

563
00:15:55,750 --> 00:15:56,617
of the property and

564
00:15:56,617 --> 00:15:58,219
would go back towards

565
00:15:58,219 --> 00:15:59,687
the southeast corner

566
00:15:59,687 --> 00:16:01,489
where it would provide

567
00:16:01,489 --> 00:16:02,623
access to a proposed

568
00:16:02,623 --> 00:16:04,580
adu and detached

569
00:16:04,580 --> 00:16:06,580
garage in the

570
00:16:06,860 --> 00:16:08,329
backyard. And so this

571
00:16:08,329 --> 00:16:09,730
pd does not have any

572
00:16:09,730 --> 00:16:10,865
specific standards for

573
00:16:10,865 --> 00:16:11,899
driveways in which

574
00:16:11,899 --> 00:16:13,334
case then it reverts

575
00:16:13,334 --> 00:16:15,570
back to the base

576
00:16:15,570 --> 00:16:16,604
zoning code and the

577
00:16:16,604 --> 00:16:17,171
standards for

578
00:16:17,171 --> 00:16:18,806
driveways for single

579
00:16:18,806 --> 00:16:20,241
family residences.

580
00:16:20,241 --> 00:16:21,275
Residences. Is under a

581
00:16:21,275 --> 00:16:22,430
code section.

582
00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:24,430
Regarding location of

583
00:16:24,545 --> 00:16:25,112
off street parking

584
00:16:25,112 --> 00:16:27,112
there, there's a

585
00:16:27,448 --> 00:16:28,883
standard that there's

586
00:16:28,883 --> 00:16:29,450
no more than one

587
00:16:29,450 --> 00:16:31,352
driveway allowed for

588
00:16:31,352 --> 00:16:32,220
street frontage, and

589
00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:34,220
then another important

590
00:16:34,254 --> 00:16:35,356
code section within

591
00:16:35,356 --> 00:16:36,390
that same section is

592
00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:38,390
that there's a

593
00:16:38,593 --> 00:16:40,610
limitation to a 40%

594
00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:41,620
maximum coverage by

595
00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:42,529
impervious surfacing.

596
00:16:42,529 --> 00:16:44,929
And the required front

597
00:16:45,767 --> 00:16:46,333
yard and so because of

598
00:16:46,333 --> 00:16:48,333
those two standards,

599
00:16:48,369 --> 00:16:49,203
the applicants are

600
00:16:49,203 --> 00:16:50,805
requesting to be able

601
00:16:50,805 --> 00:16:51,905
to add a second

602
00:16:51,905 --> 00:16:54,108
driveway. As there are

603
00:16:54,108 --> 00:16:56,108
some issues. In

604
00:16:56,177 --> 00:16:57,612
designing a single

605
00:16:57,612 --> 00:16:59,447
driveway that would

606
00:16:59,447 --> 00:17:01,649
allow it to meet the

607
00:17:01,649 --> 00:17:03,840
that surfacing

608
00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:03,685
standard and

609
00:17:03,685 --> 00:17:04,886
additionally, the

610
00:17:04,886 --> 00:17:05,887
applicants also have a

611
00:17:05,887 --> 00:17:07,210
desire to preserve

612
00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:08,456
some existing mature

613
00:17:08,456 --> 00:17:09,323
trees that are on the

614
00:17:09,323 --> 00:17:10,591
property and so the

615
00:17:10,591 --> 00:17:11,691
design would would

616
00:17:11,691 --> 00:17:13,494
assist with each of

617
00:17:13,494 --> 00:17:14,362
those items and so

618
00:17:14,362 --> 00:17:15,296
there is a code

619
00:17:15,296 --> 00:17:16,397
section that allows

620
00:17:16,397 --> 00:17:17,431
minor revisions to

621
00:17:17,431 --> 00:17:17,999
final plan

622
00:17:17,999 --> 00:17:19,233
developments, which can

623
00:17:19,233 --> 00:17:20,333
be applied either to

624
00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:21,350
the entire plan

625
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:23,237
development or just to

626
00:17:23,237 --> 00:17:23,838
a sngle site in this

627
00:17:23,838 --> 00:17:25,390
case, the applicants

628
00:17:25,390 --> 00:17:26,473
are just requesting it

629
00:17:26,473 --> 00:17:28,473
for their residents,

630
00:17:28,943 --> 00:17:30,411
their parcel and with

631
00:17:30,411 --> 00:17:32,811
all of that, stuff,

632
00:17:32,947 --> 00:17:34,749
hasn't any significant

633
00:17:34,749 --> 00:17:35,448
concerns or any

634
00:17:35,448 --> 00:17:36,884
significant impacts to

635
00:17:36,884 --> 00:17:38,352
the surrounding

636
00:17:38,352 --> 00:17:39,220
properties. We've also

637
00:17:39,220 --> 00:17:40,454
found that this is

638
00:17:40,454 --> 00:17:41,589
appeared to be in with

639
00:17:41,589 --> 00:17:42,456
the intentions of the

640
00:17:42,456 --> 00:17:44,580
general plan or the

641
00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:44,825
zoning and

642
00:17:44,825 --> 00:17:45,393
additionally, the

643
00:17:45,393 --> 00:17:46,761
applicants have

644
00:17:46,761 --> 00:17:48,395
expressed that they

645
00:17:48,395 --> 00:17:50,231
have from the

646
00:17:50,231 --> 00:17:50,831
homeowners homeowners

647
00:17:50,831 --> 00:17:52,433
association, excuse me

648
00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:53,768
and some surrounding

649
00:17:53,768 --> 00:17:55,768
neighbors for this

650
00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:56,604
project. Ad so in

651
00:17:56,604 --> 00:17:58,139
consideration of all of

652
00:17:58,139 --> 00:17:59,573
that, recommendation

653
00:17:59,573 --> 00:18:00,140
tonight is for the

654
00:18:00,140 --> 00:18:01,709
planning commission to

655
00:18:01,709 --> 00:18:02,810
approve the resolution

656
00:18:02,810 --> 00:18:04,612
that would approve

657
00:18:04,612 --> 00:18:05,312
revised final plan

658
00:18:05,312 --> 00:18:07,312
development to allow

659
00:18:07,882 --> 00:18:08,315
second driveway at

660
00:18:08,315 --> 00:18:10,315
3103 shelter cove

661
00:18:11,118 --> 00:18:11,719
place that concludes my

662
00:18:11,719 --> 00:18:13,253
presentation, but I am

663
00:18:13,253 --> 00:18:14,354
here to answer any

664
00:18:14,354 --> 00:18:16,123
questions applicant is

665
00:18:16,123 --> 00:18:18,523
here as well. Thank

666
00:18:19,393 --> 00:18:20,610
you.

667
00:18:20,610 --> 00:18:20,528
>> wonderful

668
00:18:20,528 --> 00:18:22,528
applicant. Would you

669
00:18:22,596 --> 00:18:25,596
like to come up and

670
00:18:30,171 --> 00:18:32,171
say anything??

671
00:18:35,609 --> 00:18:37,770
>> I am homeowner. I

672
00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:38,546
I'm the homeowner. Can

673
00:18:38,546 --> 00:18:39,880
I answer? Specific

674
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,880
questions? That's

675
00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:42,550
really la

676
00:18:42,550 --> 00:18:43,885
>> can move on. Do we

677
00:18:43,885 --> 00:18:45,885
have any clarifying

678
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:46,387
questions?

679
00:18:46,387 --> 00:18:48,387
Commissioners?

680
00:18:50,357 --> 00:18:51,826
>> no questions. I

681
00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:52,526
think it's more.

682
00:18:52,526 --> 00:18:54,526
Germane to our

683
00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:55,896
conversation efforts

684
00:18:55,896 --> 00:18:56,831
>> no, no, no

685
00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:58,265
clarifying questions

686
00:18:58,265 --> 00:19:00,665
right now. So thank

687
00:19:01,135 --> 00:19:02,300
you yeah. Well, I'll

688
00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:03,671
ask you back up. Just

689
00:19:03,671 --> 00:19:06,540
in case we go that

690
00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:07,141
route. Next we'll have

691
00:19:07,141 --> 00:19:08,375
clarifying questions

692
00:19:08,375 --> 00:19:11,211
for staff if we have

693
00:19:11,211 --> 00:19:11,812
any..

694
00:19:11,812 --> 00:19:12,646
>> I had a quick

695
00:19:12,646 --> 00:19:14,646
question. I'm looking

696
00:19:15,883 --> 00:19:18,486
at this map and I see

697
00:19:18,486 --> 00:19:21,486
that there's a lot of

698
00:19:22,356 --> 00:19:23,457
hard surface. And if

699
00:19:23,457 --> 00:19:24,158
I'm not mistaken,

700
00:19:24,158 --> 00:19:25,593
we've been talking

701
00:19:25,593 --> 00:19:26,693
about in the city. At

702
00:19:26,693 --> 00:19:27,728
some point I couldn't

703
00:19:27,728 --> 00:19:29,163
figure out where it

704
00:19:29,163 --> 00:19:31,563
was about making sure

705
00:19:32,433 --> 00:19:33,533
that new do a

706
00:19:33,533 --> 00:19:34,402
driveway. Best

707
00:19:34,402 --> 00:19:35,336
practice was to move

708
00:19:35,336 --> 00:19:37,336
it towards something

709
00:19:38,571 --> 00:19:40,374
that was more porous

710
00:19:40,374 --> 00:19:42,910
and I didn't see that

711
00:19:42,910 --> 00:19:44,378
in this proposal and

712
00:19:44,378 --> 00:19:46,513
I'm wondering if that

713
00:19:46,513 --> 00:19:47,615
is not a requirement

714
00:19:47,615 --> 00:19:49,615
it's just a

715
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,252
suggestion. Or if it is

716
00:19:52,252 --> 00:19:53,721
something that the

717
00:19:53,721 --> 00:19:54,321
other little grove of

718
00:19:54,321 --> 00:19:55,890
trees there that you're

719
00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:56,790
trying to put in and

720
00:19:56,790 --> 00:19:58,359
I'm wondering if sme

721
00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,460
of that might be

722
00:19:59,460 --> 00:20:00,327
deferred diverted to

723
00:20:00,327 --> 00:20:01,962
that as a way to keep

724
00:20:01,962 --> 00:20:03,962
those trees healthy

725
00:20:04,532 --> 00:20:05,466
and cut the water bill

726
00:20:05,466 --> 00:20:06,633
just because it seems

727
00:20:06,633 --> 00:20:07,768
to make sense. And

728
00:20:07,768 --> 00:20:08,602
it's a good practice.

729
00:20:08,602 --> 00:20:10,237
And I know there has

730
00:20:10,237 --> 00:20:11,672
been least discussed at

731
00:20:11,672 --> 00:20:12,272
some place. I couldn't

732
00:20:12,272 --> 00:20:13,807
remember where it

733
00:20:13,807 --> 00:20:14,942
wasn't here. But it

734
00:20:14,942 --> 00:20:17,770
could have been, you

735
00:20:17,770 --> 00:20:18,179
know came out. One of

736
00:20:18,179 --> 00:20:19,280
the flyers. That we

737
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,114
get from the city about

738
00:20:20,114 --> 00:20:21,382
how to preserve water

739
00:20:21,382 --> 00:20:23,782
and trees and other

740
00:20:23,951 --> 00:20:26,860
things. So just as a

741
00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:26,954
if it if it serves

742
00:20:26,954 --> 00:20:28,989
chair, maybe we could

743
00:20:28,989 --> 00:20:29,590
bring the applicant u

744
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:31,124
and ask if they might

745
00:20:31,124 --> 00:20:32,593
be amenable to that and

746
00:20:32,593 --> 00:20:34,280
whether the design

747
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,620
works or not for that

748
00:20:35,620 --> 00:20:35,495
particular type of

749
00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:36,863
arrangement. Or it

750
00:20:36,863 --> 00:20:37,932
could be slightly

751
00:20:37,932 --> 00:20:39,660
modified would that

752
00:20:39,660 --> 00:20:39,833
cause any problems for

753
00:20:39,833 --> 00:20:41,569
the city? Would they

754
00:20:41,569 --> 00:20:43,300
have to reapply? Would

755
00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:45,239
they have to resubmit

756
00:20:45,239 --> 00:20:47,107
something just a quick

757
00:20:47,107 --> 00:20:48,809
question and maybe

758
00:20:48,809 --> 00:20:49,376
have perhaps

759
00:20:49,376 --> 00:20:50,945
>> let's first have

760
00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:51,512
all of our clarifying

761
00:20:51,512 --> 00:20:52,379
questions and staff can

762
00:20:52,379 --> 00:20:53,800
respond. And then

763
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:53,646
we'll have the

764
00:20:53,646 --> 00:20:56,460
applicant back up. How

765
00:20:58,118 --> 00:21:00,321
does that sound? Greg

766
00:21:00,321 --> 00:21:01,789
.. Just a question

767
00:21:01,789 --> 00:21:02,356
about the homeowners

768
00:21:02,356 --> 00:21:03,557
association. I assume

769
00:21:03,557 --> 00:21:04,592
there's nothing in the

770
00:21:04,592 --> 00:21:05,693
homeowners association

771
00:21:05,693 --> 00:21:07,693
documents that causes

772
00:21:07,828 --> 00:21:08,429
any conflict with this

773
00:21:08,429 --> 00:21:09,630
>> nothing that has

774
00:21:09,630 --> 00:21:10,731
been brought to my

775
00:21:10,731 --> 00:21:11,331
attention. Again, the

776
00:21:11,331 --> 00:21:12,166
applicant, they might

777
00:21:12,166 --> 00:21:14,566
be able to speak

778
00:21:14,668 --> 00:21:16,668
further to that

779
00:21:16,904 --> 00:21:17,504
>> you.

780
00:21:17,504 --> 00:21:19,904
>> all right. Do you

781
00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:21,575
want to respond to

782
00:21:21,575 --> 00:21:23,975
samantha first, if we

783
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:25,145
if the city has any

784
00:21:25,145 --> 00:21:26,947
requirements for

785
00:21:26,947 --> 00:21:27,514
pervious surfaces.

786
00:21:27,514 --> 00:21:29,514
>> currently there's

787
00:21:30,517 --> 00:21:31,652
no standard that sounds

788
00:21:31,652 --> 00:21:32,219
right that we probably

789
00:21:32,219 --> 00:21:33,753
encourage that. But

790
00:21:33,753 --> 00:21:35,753
there's no requirement

791
00:21:38,492 --> 00:21:39,590
in the zoning code...

792
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:39,927
>> are totally

793
00:21:39,927 --> 00:21:40,928
comfortable using

794
00:21:40,928 --> 00:21:41,495
permeable surfaces.

795
00:21:41,495 --> 00:21:42,960
It's one of the things

796
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,530
that we explored when

797
00:21:43,530 --> 00:21:44,980
we were looking at the

798
00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:44,932
driveway. I'm

799
00:21:44,932 --> 00:21:45,799
absolutely fine with

800
00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:46,801
that. It's not going to

801
00:21:46,801 --> 00:21:47,467
be used often. So

802
00:21:47,467 --> 00:21:49,669
that's not a big deal

803
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:52,171
for us. And all of our

804
00:21:52,171 --> 00:21:53,240
plans go through the

805
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,741
them to planning and

806
00:21:53,741 --> 00:21:56,141
building. So they have

807
00:21:58,946 --> 00:21:59,546
a..

808
00:21:59,546 --> 00:22:01,181
>> thank you for being

809
00:22:01,181 --> 00:22:02,182
open to that sure

810
00:22:02,182 --> 00:22:03,318
what's required in this

811
00:22:03,318 --> 00:22:03,884
wonderful. When people

812
00:22:03,884 --> 00:22:04,785
come up in are willing

813
00:22:04,785 --> 00:22:05,352
to say that makes

814
00:22:05,352 --> 00:22:06,553
sense for you, and

815
00:22:06,553 --> 00:22:07,420
it's a win win for.

816
00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:10,420
For our city too. So

817
00:22:11,257 --> 00:22:11,892
thank you very much.

818
00:22:11,892 --> 00:22:13,590
>> all right, with

819
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:13,927
that, I think we'll

820
00:22:13,927 --> 00:22:16,263
open this item up for

821
00:22:16,263 --> 00:22:17,364
public comment. There

822
00:22:17,364 --> 00:22:19,764
any public comments on

823
00:22:20,968 --> 00:22:22,403
this item? If not,

824
00:22:22,403 --> 00:22:24,872
then we'll move on to

825
00:22:24,872 --> 00:22:26,600
the liberation so it

826
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,410
sounded to me like you

827
00:22:27,410 --> 00:22:28,909
wanted to make a

828
00:22:28,909 --> 00:22:29,910
motion to add a

829
00:22:29,910 --> 00:22:31,378
permeable surfaces to

830
00:22:31,378 --> 00:22:31,812
the staff

831
00:22:31,812 --> 00:22:33,812
recommendation to

832
00:22:34,949 --> 00:22:35,249
approve the resolution

833
00:22:35,249 --> 00:22:36,500
...

834
00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:36,749
>> yes, I think w

835
00:22:36,749 --> 00:22:37,851
don't have any trouble

836
00:22:37,851 --> 00:22:40,200
with the consent of

837
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,654
the of the applicant.

838
00:22:40,654 --> 00:22:42,556
Think I would put that

839
00:22:42,556 --> 00:22:44,325
in as a recommendation

840
00:22:44,325 --> 00:22:45,250
for sure, for their

841
00:22:45,250 --> 00:22:46,493
consideration. It

842
00:22:46,493 --> 00:22:47,930
sounds like they to

843
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:49,493
explore that. At the

844
00:22:54,670 --> 00:22:55,102
very least. So yeah..

845
00:22:55,102 --> 00:22:56,169
I'm more comfortable

846
00:22:56,169 --> 00:22:58,372
keeping it as a

847
00:22:58,372 --> 00:22:58,939
recommendation..

848
00:22:58,939 --> 00:23:01,242
>> okay. Do you want to

849
00:23:01,242 --> 00:23:03,242
make a motion

850
00:23:04,845 --> 00:23:05,412
>> be include for as

851
00:23:05,412 --> 00:23:06,312
part of the

852
00:23:06,312 --> 00:23:07,714
recommendation. Me to

853
00:23:07,714 --> 00:23:09,714
do for recommendation

854
00:23:37,244 --> 00:23:37,778
or foundation is okay.

855
00:23:37,778 --> 00:23:39,460
The construction of the

856
00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:40,147
secondary driveway as

857
00:23:40,147 --> 00:23:40,547
depicted in further

858
00:23:40,547 --> 00:23:42,547
described in the

859
00:23:43,417 --> 00:23:44,851
planning resolution 26

860
00:23:44,851 --> 00:23:45,852
xx x and subject to

861
00:23:45,852 --> 00:23:46,953
the conditions of

862
00:23:46,953 --> 00:23:48,953
approval list of

863
00:23:49,856 --> 00:23:50,457
exhibit a the approval

864
00:23:50,457 --> 00:23:51,325
conditions. I guess

865
00:23:51,325 --> 00:23:52,458
that's all I have to

866
00:23:52,458 --> 00:23:54,928
do with the. With the

867
00:23:54,928 --> 00:23:56,363
added recommendation.

868
00:23:56,363 --> 00:23:56,930
That they consider the

869
00:23:56,930 --> 00:23:58,465
possibility of

870
00:23:58,465 --> 00:23:59,967
diverting some of the

871
00:23:59,967 --> 00:24:02,680
hardscape water to a

872
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,871
of. To feed and other

873
00:24:03,871 --> 00:24:05,871
things more permeable

874
00:24:06,807 --> 00:24:07,507
substance to allow for

875
00:24:07,507 --> 00:24:08,909
the feeding of trees

876
00:24:08,909 --> 00:24:10,100
and other agricultural

877
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,410
purposes and on the

878
00:24:13,947 --> 00:24:14,414
property.

879
00:24:14,414 --> 00:24:16,414
>> I'll second that

880
00:24:16,483 --> 00:24:18,883
motion. Right. All in

881
00:24:22,189 --> 00:24:22,923
favor. Motion passes

882
00:24:22,923 --> 00:24:23,657
thank you for coming to

883
00:24:23,657 --> 00:24:24,258
the planning

884
00:24:24,258 --> 00:24:26,258
commission meeting

885
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,560
tonight. Right. Enjoy

886
00:24:29,462 --> 00:24:31,265
your adu and now. We'll

887
00:24:31,265 --> 00:24:31,765
move on to the second

888
00:24:31,765 --> 00:24:32,699
consent item, which is

889
00:24:32,699 --> 00:24:33,733
the general plan

890
00:24:33,733 --> 00:24:34,168
update by our

891
00:24:34,168 --> 00:24:36,168
principal planner,

892
00:24:37,738 --> 00:24:39,173
sherry. Metzer...

893
00:24:39,173 --> 00:24:40,607
Sorry, our head of

894
00:24:40,607 --> 00:24:42,607
community development.

895
00:24:44,211 --> 00:24:44,811
Yeah. Been big on.

896
00:24:44,811 --> 00:24:45,712
>> titles, so it

897
00:24:45,712 --> 00:24:47,712
doesn't matter. It's

898
00:24:48,148 --> 00:24:48,749
all good.

899
00:24:48,749 --> 00:24:49,616
>> this is sherry

900
00:24:49,616 --> 00:24:51,616
metzger, community

901
00:24:51,718 --> 00:24:53,187
development director

902
00:24:53,187 --> 00:24:54,654
wanted to take this

903
00:24:54,654 --> 00:24:55,222
opportunity to the

904
00:24:55,222 --> 00:24:56,423
planning commission on

905
00:24:56,423 --> 00:24:58,992
where we are on the

906
00:24:58,992 --> 00:24:59,560
general plan as you

907
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,940
all know, we've had a

908
00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:03,263
few meetings. We've had

909
00:25:03,263 --> 00:25:03,864
lots of pblic

910
00:25:03,864 --> 00:25:05,798
engagement and things

911
00:25:05,798 --> 00:25:06,933
like that. And we have

912
00:25:06,933 --> 00:25:08,702
been collecting

913
00:25:08,702 --> 00:25:10,503
comments. On a

914
00:25:10,503 --> 00:25:12,305
proposed draft. Land

915
00:25:12,305 --> 00:25:13,740
use plan, which is the

916
00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:14,341
first big step in the

917
00:25:14,341 --> 00:25:16,341
updating of the

918
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:18,779
general plan. So next

919
00:25:18,779 --> 00:25:19,245
big opportunity for

920
00:25:19,245 --> 00:25:20,580
participation will be

921
00:25:20,580 --> 00:25:21,682
the public workshop,

922
00:25:21,682 --> 00:25:24,820
which we will be

923
00:25:24,851 --> 00:25:27,530
holding on OCTOBER 14th

924
00:25:27,530 --> 00:25:27,921
from 2026. And that

925
00:25:27,921 --> 00:25:29,523
meeting will be held

926
00:25:29,523 --> 00:25:31,725
out at the veterans

927
00:25:31,725 --> 00:25:32,759
memorial and this

928
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:34,227
time, instead of

929
00:25:34,227 --> 00:25:36,290
having several

930
00:25:36,290 --> 00:25:37,130
stations where folks

931
00:25:37,130 --> 00:25:38,565
can go around and just

932
00:25:38,565 --> 00:25:40,330
talk to whoever is

933
00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:41,340
manning the station

934
00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:42,202
we're going to have a

935
00:25:42,202 --> 00:25:43,637
series of smaller,

936
00:25:43,637 --> 00:25:45,637
well, not terribly

937
00:25:47,173 --> 00:25:48,308
small tables that are

938
00:25:48,308 --> 00:25:49,900
tables where we can

939
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:51,111
have 8 to 10 people at

940
00:25:51,111 --> 00:25:53,347
the table and they can

941
00:25:53,347 --> 00:25:55,148
discuss the revisions

942
00:25:55,148 --> 00:25:57,250
that have been made to

943
00:25:57,250 --> 00:25:58,718
the draft plan and come

944
00:25:58,718 --> 00:25:59,286
up with their own

945
00:25:59,286 --> 00:26:01,286
recommendations for

946
00:26:02,622 --> 00:26:05,220
how they think the

947
00:26:05,192 --> 00:26:07,192
plan should be

948
00:26:07,327 --> 00:26:08,462
amended. Not amended

949
00:26:08,462 --> 00:26:09,529
what they think. So

950
00:26:09,529 --> 00:26:10,230
it's just another

951
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:12,230
opportunity for people

952
00:26:14,601 --> 00:26:15,168
to participate and get

953
00:26:15,168 --> 00:26:17,370
involved in how the

954
00:26:17,370 --> 00:26:19,370
general plan comes

955
00:26:19,973 --> 00:26:21,408
together then on

956
00:26:21,408 --> 00:26:22,109
NOVEMBER the 9th, the

957
00:26:22,109 --> 00:26:22,676
transportation

958
00:26:22,676 --> 00:26:24,645
commission is going to

959
00:26:24,645 --> 00:26:26,113
be meeting because, as

960
00:26:26,113 --> 00:26:28,513
you MAY recall. After

961
00:26:28,915 --> 00:26:31,315
the last general plan

962
00:26:32,151 --> 00:26:32,519
committee meeting, the

963
00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:33,620
members of the

964
00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:35,822
committee were to go

965
00:26:35,822 --> 00:26:36,857
back to their various

966
00:26:36,857 --> 00:26:37,958
commissions and seek

967
00:26:37,958 --> 00:26:39,426
input from their

968
00:26:39,426 --> 00:26:41,426
bigger commission on

969
00:26:41,895 --> 00:26:44,464
the land use plan and

970
00:26:44,464 --> 00:26:45,465
those dates start with

971
00:26:45,465 --> 00:26:46,232
the well, I guess they

972
00:26:46,232 --> 00:26:47,734
don't really start with

973
00:26:47,734 --> 00:26:49,169
the transportation

974
00:26:49,169 --> 00:26:50,604
commission. They more

975
00:26:50,604 --> 00:26:51,238
like end with them.

976
00:26:51,238 --> 00:26:53,720
We've had several of

977
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,207
them meet already, and

978
00:26:54,207 --> 00:26:55,420
talk about the various

979
00:26:55,420 --> 00:26:56,309
issues tat they might

980
00:26:56,309 --> 00:26:57,177
have with the plan and

981
00:26:57,177 --> 00:26:59,577
things that they might

982
00:26:59,579 --> 00:27:00,213
consider changing. And

983
00:27:00,213 --> 00:27:02,448
then all of that will

984
00:27:02,448 --> 00:27:04,848
be brought back to

985
00:27:05,352 --> 00:27:06,720
general plan committee

986
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,821
in DECEMBER. But it

987
00:27:07,821 --> 00:27:08,954
kind of depends on how

988
00:27:08,954 --> 00:27:10,954
this all comes

989
00:27:11,791 --> 00:27:13,660
together on te 14th.

990
00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:15,280
There was apparently

991
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,429
at your SEPTEMBER 9th

992
00:27:16,429 --> 00:27:18,231
meeting quite a bit of

993
00:27:18,231 --> 00:27:20,660
discussion about

994
00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:21,902
strengthening the of

995
00:27:21,902 --> 00:27:23,902
cities. Open space,

996
00:27:24,738 --> 00:27:26,738
easements so that

997
00:27:26,973 --> 00:27:27,974
right? Okay. And

998
00:27:27,974 --> 00:27:29,409
through land use

999
00:27:29,409 --> 00:27:30,877
controls and staff has

1000
00:27:30,877 --> 00:27:31,978
done some background

1001
00:27:31,978 --> 00:27:33,780
work that we wanted to

1002
00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:34,347
share with you about

1003
00:27:34,347 --> 00:27:35,582
what that means. I

1004
00:27:35,582 --> 00:27:37,982
guess there was an

1005
00:27:38,785 --> 00:27:40,253
idea where we might

1006
00:27:40,253 --> 00:27:42,389
make our sphere of

1007
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:43,857
influence very large

1008
00:27:43,857 --> 00:27:44,957
and include all of

1009
00:27:44,957 --> 00:27:46,957
those parcels that

1010
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:48,528
were within that are

1011
00:27:48,528 --> 00:27:50,664
out there under an open

1012
00:27:50,664 --> 00:27:52,132
space. Easement.

1013
00:27:52,132 --> 00:27:54,267
Within our sphere of

1014
00:27:54,267 --> 00:27:55,368
influence. And so dara

1015
00:27:55,368 --> 00:27:56,469
spent some time. There

1016
00:27:56,469 --> 00:27:58,271
is our principal

1017
00:27:58,271 --> 00:27:59,105
planner some time

1018
00:27:59,105 --> 00:28:01,505
talking to the staff

1019
00:28:01,508 --> 00:28:02,943
at lafco, who are

1020
00:28:02,943 --> 00:28:03,810
responsible for

1021
00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:05,810
approving spheres of

1022
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,981
influence. And

1023
00:28:07,981 --> 00:28:09,349
apparently it's not as

1024
00:28:09,349 --> 00:28:09,983
simple as just sying

1025
00:28:09,983 --> 00:28:11,217
this is where we want

1026
00:28:11,217 --> 00:28:11,818
our sphere of

1027
00:28:11,818 --> 00:28:13,353
influence and drawing

1028
00:28:13,353 --> 00:28:14,821
it very large to

1029
00:28:14,821 --> 00:28:16,623
include all of those

1030
00:28:16,623 --> 00:28:18,580
properties. Apparently

1031
00:28:18,580 --> 00:28:19,526
lafco has their own

1032
00:28:19,526 --> 00:28:20,527
policies and their own

1033
00:28:20,527 --> 00:28:21,661
procedures that are

1034
00:28:21,661 --> 00:28:23,430
required as part of the

1035
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:24,531
state law. On how

1036
00:28:24,531 --> 00:28:26,333
annexation are

1037
00:28:26,333 --> 00:28:28,134
supposed to happen.

1038
00:28:28,134 --> 00:28:29,936
And I apparently it

1039
00:28:29,936 --> 00:28:32,710
also is true that if

1040
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:35,710
the city really has no

1041
00:28:35,275 --> 00:28:36,743
long term plans to

1042
00:28:36,743 --> 00:28:38,879
grow and develop to

1043
00:28:38,879 --> 00:28:40,347
that ultimate size.

1044
00:28:40,347 --> 00:28:41,781
Then they are very

1045
00:28:41,781 --> 00:28:42,949
unlikely to approve

1046
00:28:42,949 --> 00:28:43,517
the sphere of

1047
00:28:43,517 --> 00:28:45,510
influence. The sphere

1048
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:46,486
of influence that

1049
00:28:46,486 --> 00:28:48,886
would feed all of

1050
00:28:49,356 --> 00:28:51,356
those space parcels.

1051
00:28:51,525 --> 00:28:52,920
that make sense. I'm

1052
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,627
not sure. I feel like

1053
00:28:53,627 --> 00:28:56,270
I explained it very

1054
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:00,500
well. Anyway.. So she

1055
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,335
also wanted everybody

1056
00:29:02,335 --> 00:29:03,403
to know that the

1057
00:29:03,403 --> 00:29:04,838
locations of the

1058
00:29:04,838 --> 00:29:06,272
easements have been

1059
00:29:06,272 --> 00:29:08,410
intentionally selected

1060
00:29:08,410 --> 00:29:09,509
and out to try to

1061
00:29:09,509 --> 00:29:10,643
create a buffer

1062
00:29:10,643 --> 00:29:12,780
between davis and

1063
00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:13,913
woodland as

1064
00:29:13,913 --> 00:29:14,347
development actually

1065
00:29:14,347 --> 00:29:14,881
happens in the two

1066
00:29:14,881 --> 00:29:16,881
cities. Actually grow

1067
00:29:17,117 --> 00:29:18,518
closer to each other

1068
00:29:18,518 --> 00:29:19,860
and the open space.

1069
00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:20,687
Easements that we

1070
00:29:20,687 --> 00:29:21,588
already have are part

1071
00:29:21,588 --> 00:29:23,590
of that effort to try

1072
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:25,392
to maintain some

1073
00:29:25,392 --> 00:29:26,425
distance that's

1074
00:29:26,425 --> 00:29:27,861
undeveloped, that's

1075
00:29:27,861 --> 00:29:29,861
agricultural between

1076
00:29:29,996 --> 00:29:30,597
the two cities. Tracy

1077
00:29:30,597 --> 00:29:31,865
is here with us

1078
00:29:31,865 --> 00:29:32,731
tonight as a matter of

1079
00:29:32,731 --> 00:29:33,700
fact, tracy and I work

1080
00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:35,502
together quite a bit.

1081
00:29:35,502 --> 00:29:37,502
Those open space.

1082
00:29:38,271 --> 00:29:40,140
Easements are very

1083
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:42,140
deliberate they cost

1084
00:29:42,976 --> 00:29:44,411
money. And so they are

1085
00:29:44,411 --> 00:29:45,879
very strong indeed.

1086
00:29:45,879 --> 00:29:47,981
And I think you would

1087
00:29:47,981 --> 00:29:48,581
find that in and of

1088
00:29:48,581 --> 00:29:50,581
themselves they are

1089
00:29:52,686 --> 00:29:53,820
difficult to undo the

1090
00:29:53,820 --> 00:29:54,387
sphere of influence

1091
00:29:54,387 --> 00:29:55,588
isn't really going to

1092
00:29:55,588 --> 00:29:56,723
add any kind of layer

1093
00:29:56,723 --> 00:29:57,590
of protection, because

1094
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:59,990
they would still be

1095
00:29:59,992 --> 00:30:00,626
under the county and so

1096
00:30:00,626 --> 00:30:02,620
they would have

1097
00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:04,620
ultimate land use

1098
00:30:04,197 --> 00:30:06,320
authority. But be that

1099
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,268
as it MAY before the

1100
00:30:08,268 --> 00:30:09,102
next available meeting

1101
00:30:09,102 --> 00:30:11,370
which as I understand

1102
00:30:11,370 --> 00:30:12,839
it, is later in

1103
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,273
OCTOBER will have a

1104
00:30:14,273 --> 00:30:15,742
little bit more of a

1105
00:30:15,742 --> 00:30:16,609
discussion with the

1106
00:30:16,609 --> 00:30:17,944
staff to get an even

1107
00:30:17,944 --> 00:30:19,944
better understanding

1108
00:30:20,446 --> 00:30:22,846
of how that process

1109
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:24,950
works in totality. And

1110
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:26,319
so that would lead me

1111
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:26,920
to the final point. I

1112
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320
wanted to make, which

1113
00:30:29,889 --> 00:30:32,289
is your next meeting.

1114
00:30:33,726 --> 00:30:36,126
Is OCTOBER 28th, were

1115
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:39,132
we wll have a an

1116
00:30:39,132 --> 00:30:40,232
opportunity for the

1117
00:30:40,232 --> 00:30:41,334
general plan

1118
00:30:41,334 --> 00:30:42,802
subcommittee made up

1119
00:30:42,802 --> 00:30:44,802
of commissioners

1120
00:30:44,938 --> 00:30:46,390
mclaughlin and to

1121
00:30:46,390 --> 00:30:48,390
present their

1122
00:30:48,141 --> 00:30:49,608
findings. Of on the

1123
00:30:49,608 --> 00:30:51,744
land use plan and the

1124
00:30:51,744 --> 00:30:54,744
issues at hand. On the

1125
00:30:55,348 --> 00:30:56,449
general plan with

1126
00:30:56,449 --> 00:30:58,849
that, I can entertain

1127
00:30:58,918 --> 00:30:59,285
any questions.

1128
00:30:59,285 --> 00:31:00,530
Commissioners.

1129
00:31:00,530 --> 00:31:02,530
>> are there any

1130
00:31:03,256 --> 00:31:04,691
questions? I would

1131
00:31:04,691 --> 00:31:05,825
just say that the next

1132
00:31:05,825 --> 00:31:07,260
meeting that we do

1133
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:09,429
talk about the sphere

1134
00:31:09,429 --> 00:31:11,197
of influence and you

1135
00:31:11,197 --> 00:31:11,898
know what? I'll areas

1136
00:31:11,898 --> 00:31:13,333
that you were

1137
00:31:13,333 --> 00:31:14,801
discussing or sharing

1138
00:31:14,801 --> 00:31:16,236
with us in your

1139
00:31:16,236 --> 00:31:18,370
presentation it would

1140
00:31:18,370 --> 00:31:19,472
be really great to

1141
00:31:19,472 --> 00:31:20,573
have a map that we can

1142
00:31:20,573 --> 00:31:22,973
look at while we're

1143
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,510
doing that it's hard

1144
00:31:24,510 --> 00:31:25,111
for me to kind of think

1145
00:31:25,111 --> 00:31:27,511
about it in the

1146
00:31:27,747 --> 00:31:28,448
context of in my head

1147
00:31:28,448 --> 00:31:29,916
so if we could see it,

1148
00:31:29,916 --> 00:31:30,350
I think we could better

1149
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:31,351
understand it. That

1150
00:31:31,351 --> 00:31:32,452
would be a helpful

1151
00:31:32,452 --> 00:31:34,452
tool

1152
00:31:34,587 --> 00:31:35,688
>> mean a map of our

1153
00:31:35,688 --> 00:31:37,157
existing sphere or

1154
00:31:37,157 --> 00:31:37,724
existing open space?

1155
00:31:37,724 --> 00:31:39,292
>> I think that's

1156
00:31:39,292 --> 00:31:42,292
great. And then what we

1157
00:31:42,528 --> 00:31:43,964
proposed versus what

1158
00:31:43,964 --> 00:31:45,398
lafco has said will

1159
00:31:45,398 --> 00:31:46,431
not does it work? Does

1160
00:31:46,431 --> 00:31:48,234
it make sense? So we

1161
00:31:48,234 --> 00:31:50,234
can understand it.

1162
00:31:57,643 --> 00:31:58,244
Okay.

1163
00:31:58,244 --> 00:32:00,244
>> extending that line

1164
00:32:01,213 --> 00:32:01,981
of thought. Receive an

1165
00:32:01,981 --> 00:32:02,448
interesting

1166
00:32:02,448 --> 00:32:03,416
correspondence from a

1167
00:32:03,416 --> 00:32:04,170
member of the public

1168
00:32:04,170 --> 00:32:05,885
and was trying to

1169
00:32:05,885 --> 00:32:07,352
educate us on sphere

1170
00:32:07,352 --> 00:32:09,122
of influence.

1171
00:32:09,122 --> 00:32:10,623
Exclusion criteria and

1172
00:32:10,623 --> 00:32:11,491
inclusion criteria. So

1173
00:32:11,491 --> 00:32:13,526
perhaps in the next

1174
00:32:13,526 --> 00:32:15,628
staff report some of

1175
00:32:15,628 --> 00:32:17,430
the primer there in

1176
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:18,564
terms of explaining

1177
00:32:18,564 --> 00:32:20,000
sphere of influence a

1178
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,467
little better for our

1179
00:32:21,467 --> 00:32:22,302
collective education

1180
00:32:22,302 --> 00:32:23,570
what can be included?

1181
00:32:23,570 --> 00:32:25,371
What cannot be

1182
00:32:25,371 --> 00:32:27,771
included we tend to

1183
00:32:28,241 --> 00:32:29,275
use. Do sometimes

1184
00:32:29,275 --> 00:32:30,443
terms interchangeably.

1185
00:32:30,443 --> 00:32:31,510
So maybe some

1186
00:32:31,510 --> 00:32:33,312
definitions like what

1187
00:32:33,312 --> 00:32:34,781
is the davis plan

1188
00:32:34,781 --> 00:32:35,748
area? Distinguished

1189
00:32:35,748 --> 00:32:36,883
from sphere of

1190
00:32:36,883 --> 00:32:38,883
influence. And where

1191
00:32:40,153 --> 00:32:41,554
does the limit line?

1192
00:32:41,554 --> 00:32:42,422
Play into this entire

1193
00:32:42,422 --> 00:32:44,570
analysis as well? So if

1194
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:45,190
we're going to some

1195
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:47,590
maps together, I think

1196
00:32:48,930 --> 00:32:48,661
some primer going along

1197
00:32:48,661 --> 00:32:51,610
with it would be

1198
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,100
helpful..

1199
00:32:56,435 --> 00:32:56,769
>> and commissioner

1200
00:32:56,769 --> 00:32:57,370
was going to

1201
00:32:57,370 --> 00:32:59,239
>> suggest the same

1202
00:32:59,239 --> 00:33:01,373
thing as vince and and

1203
00:33:01,373 --> 00:33:03,176
go further in saying

1204
00:33:03,176 --> 00:33:03,743
that when the new

1205
00:33:03,743 --> 00:33:04,277
general plan is

1206
00:33:04,277 --> 00:33:05,110
published, I think it

1207
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:07,513
would be really good to

1208
00:33:07,513 --> 00:33:08,348
have like a glossary

1209
00:33:08,348 --> 00:33:09,648
of terms so that

1210
00:33:09,648 --> 00:33:11,451
things like davis

1211
00:33:11,451 --> 00:33:13,253
planning area, urban

1212
00:33:13,253 --> 00:33:14,687
limit lines sphere of

1213
00:33:14,687 --> 00:33:16,456
influence etc. Can all

1214
00:33:16,456 --> 00:33:17,590
be included in there

1215
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:18,624
because you know, those

1216
00:33:18,624 --> 00:33:19,759
those terms are not

1217
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:20,826
necessarily

1218
00:33:20,826 --> 00:33:21,861
interchangeable. The

1219
00:33:21,861 --> 00:33:22,962
differences. So I would

1220
00:33:22,962 --> 00:33:23,596
say for the next both

1221
00:33:23,596 --> 00:33:25,996
the next meeting and

1222
00:33:26,199 --> 00:33:27,333
then also document.

1223
00:33:27,333 --> 00:33:27,900
There should be a

1224
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:29,900
discussion of those

1225
00:33:30,136 --> 00:33:32,136
things, including the

1226
00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:34,140
list of exclusion and

1227
00:33:34,140 --> 00:33:35,575
inclusion criteria

1228
00:33:35,575 --> 00:33:37,975
that we were provided

1229
00:33:39,879 --> 00:33:41,313
with influence. And

1230
00:33:41,313 --> 00:33:44,313
that was I an email

1231
00:33:46,752 --> 00:33:49,152
from, I think longo..

1232
00:33:49,222 --> 00:33:51,222
>> thanks..

1233
00:33:52,825 --> 00:33:54,293
>> okay

1234
00:33:54,293 --> 00:33:55,394
>> think I'll

1235
00:33:55,394 --> 00:33:55,695
>> just

1236
00:33:55,695 --> 00:33:56,620
>> my

1237
00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:56,362
>> clarifying

1238
00:33:56,362 --> 00:33:57,530
question.

1239
00:33:57,530 --> 00:33:58,970
>> we have the city

1240
00:33:58,970 --> 00:33:59,298
limits and then we

1241
00:33:59,298 --> 00:33:59,966
discuss the urban limit

1242
00:33:59,966 --> 00:34:01,100
line, and then we have

1243
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,201
the sphere of

1244
00:34:02,201 --> 00:34:02,802
influence on the

1245
00:34:02,802 --> 00:34:04,703
outside. So all of

1246
00:34:04,703 --> 00:34:05,805
these questions about

1247
00:34:05,805 --> 00:34:07,573
can we see maps of

1248
00:34:07,573 --> 00:34:09,420
where we are now? What

1249
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:11,420
inclusion criteria are

1250
00:34:11,611 --> 00:34:13,611
will help shape

1251
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:14,647
conversation? After we

1252
00:34:14,647 --> 00:34:15,548
move on from

1253
00:34:15,548 --> 00:34:16,215
clarifying questions,

1254
00:34:16,215 --> 00:34:17,830
we'll have an

1255
00:34:17,830 --> 00:34:17,984
opportunity for public

1256
00:34:17,984 --> 00:34:19,452
comment on this. And

1257
00:34:19,452 --> 00:34:20,219
then the next thing is

1258
00:34:20,219 --> 00:34:21,870
that the commissioners

1259
00:34:21,870 --> 00:34:22,354
are going to revisit

1260
00:34:22,354 --> 00:34:24,490
some of those gneral

1261
00:34:24,490 --> 00:34:25,257
plan update

1262
00:34:25,257 --> 00:34:27,590
recommendations. That

1263
00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:29,528
we left off with last

1264
00:34:29,528 --> 00:34:30,963
time. So if it's okay,

1265
00:34:30,963 --> 00:34:32,980
I'm just going to

1266
00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:33,533
review what we covered

1267
00:34:33,533 --> 00:34:34,133
last time because this

1268
00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:35,334
was one of those, this

1269
00:34:35,334 --> 00:34:35,901
was a couple of those

1270
00:34:35,901 --> 00:34:37,103
items. And then what we

1271
00:34:37,103 --> 00:34:37,737
have yet to discuss,

1272
00:34:37,737 --> 00:34:40,737
and then I'll open it

1273
00:34:41,473 --> 00:34:43,473
for public comment..

1274
00:34:43,609 --> 00:34:44,710
>> ask who owns I know

1275
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:45,578
that you are doing a

1276
00:34:45,578 --> 00:34:47,947
lot of work with gis

1277
00:34:47,947 --> 00:34:49,315
and maps. City owned

1278
00:34:49,315 --> 00:34:50,830
that. Or is that the

1279
00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:50,683
purview of the

1280
00:34:50,683 --> 00:34:51,884
consultant? That's

1281
00:34:51,884 --> 00:34:52,485
providing us

1282
00:34:52,485 --> 00:34:54,485
information? Just a

1283
00:34:54,821 --> 00:34:56,821
quick question. The

1284
00:34:56,923 --> 00:34:58,390
>> maps themselves.

1285
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:59,792
>> gis files. Layer

1286
00:34:59,792 --> 00:35:00,693
files that they use to

1287
00:35:00,693 --> 00:35:01,260
produce the maps for

1288
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:02,128
us.

1289
00:35:02,128 --> 00:35:04,528
>> they own them right

1290
00:35:06,666 --> 00:35:08,768
now. Now, some of them

1291
00:35:08,768 --> 00:35:09,635
some of the maps. Are

1292
00:35:09,635 --> 00:35:12,350
base maps. They got

1293
00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:13,472
from us. But as they

1294
00:35:13,472 --> 00:35:14,940
have been working on

1295
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:16,420
them and making

1296
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:16,976
changes for proposals

1297
00:35:16,976 --> 00:35:18,511
like the land use plan

1298
00:35:18,511 --> 00:35:20,511
for example. That's

1299
00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:22,414
their map.

1300
00:35:22,414 --> 00:35:23,516
>> okay,

1301
00:35:23,516 --> 00:35:24,383
>> so I don't have

1302
00:35:24,383 --> 00:35:26,383
digital versions of

1303
00:35:26,452 --> 00:35:28,452
that

1304
00:35:28,988 --> 00:35:30,789
>> you.

1305
00:35:30,789 --> 00:35:31,790
>> okay. Any other

1306
00:35:31,790 --> 00:35:33,626
clarifying questions

1307
00:35:33,626 --> 00:35:34,193
that popped up I'm

1308
00:35:34,193 --> 00:35:35,394
going to go through

1309
00:35:35,394 --> 00:35:37,630
what we discussed last

1310
00:35:37,630 --> 00:35:38,197
time for folks who came

1311
00:35:38,197 --> 00:35:39,399
out this evening.

1312
00:35:39,399 --> 00:35:41,200
Thank you. And for all

1313
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,635
of us as a primer. So

1314
00:35:42,635 --> 00:35:43,235
we talked about

1315
00:35:43,235 --> 00:35:44,470
widening the sphere of

1316
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:45,370
influence, which was

1317
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:46,239
recommendation we

1318
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,839
passed. We talked

1319
00:35:46,839 --> 00:35:48,407
about lighting the

1320
00:35:48,407 --> 00:35:48,975
urban limit line to

1321
00:35:48,975 --> 00:35:50,610
any place that the city

1322
00:35:50,610 --> 00:35:51,611
of davis provides

1323
00:35:51,611 --> 00:35:52,211
utilities, including

1324
00:35:52,211 --> 00:35:54,145
willowbank, the golf

1325
00:35:54,145 --> 00:35:55,614
course, and that

1326
00:35:55,614 --> 00:35:57,750
passed. We also talked

1327
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:59,552
about encouraging or

1328
00:35:59,552 --> 00:36:01,552
whether to discourage

1329
00:36:02,121 --> 00:36:02,588
development on the

1330
00:36:02,588 --> 00:36:03,556
floodplain, which I

1331
00:36:03,556 --> 00:36:04,924
know you've spoken to

1332
00:36:04,924 --> 00:36:05,491
in the past. But you

1333
00:36:05,491 --> 00:36:07,160
weren't there that

1334
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:07,993
night. That

1335
00:36:07,993 --> 00:36:09,993
recommendation did not

1336
00:36:10,396 --> 00:36:11,429
pass did make a

1337
00:36:11,429 --> 00:36:12,565
recommendation for

1338
00:36:12,565 --> 00:36:14,565
comprehensive flood

1339
00:36:15,434 --> 00:36:16,102
control that passed

1340
00:36:16,102 --> 00:36:18,102
recommended

1341
00:36:18,671 --> 00:36:19,672
formalizing an aim of

1342
00:36:19,672 --> 00:36:21,140
7300 housing units.

1343
00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:22,241
That passed

1344
00:36:22,241 --> 00:36:23,376
recommended exploring

1345
00:36:23,376 --> 00:36:25,177
just thinking through

1346
00:36:25,177 --> 00:36:27,577
decking over. I-80 that

1347
00:36:28,714 --> 00:36:30,516
passed recommended

1348
00:36:30,516 --> 00:36:31,950
expanding the city

1349
00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:32,551
limit so what's

1350
00:36:32,551 --> 00:36:34,453
incorporated within the

1351
00:36:34,453 --> 00:36:36,853
city south of the

1352
00:36:36,989 --> 00:36:38,989
creek? That passed.?

1353
00:36:40,926 --> 00:36:42,926
We recommended.

1354
00:36:43,162 --> 00:36:45,264
Expanding to the golf

1355
00:36:45,264 --> 00:36:47,264
course. That also

1356
00:36:47,767 --> 00:36:48,868
passed then what we

1357
00:36:48,868 --> 00:36:50,868
need to discuss

1358
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:53,300
tonight is expanding

1359
00:36:53,539 --> 00:36:55,700
north east contingent

1360
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:55,641
on comprehensive flood

1361
00:36:55,641 --> 00:36:56,809
control plan. So this

1362
00:36:56,809 --> 00:36:59,809
is what we're going to

1363
00:37:00,713 --> 00:37:01,480
talk about tonight. We

1364
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,348
passed a

1365
00:37:02,348 --> 00:37:03,282
recommendation to pair

1366
00:37:03,282 --> 00:37:05,510
development with

1367
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:06,519
protected bike lanes

1368
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:06,919
within a given

1369
00:37:06,919 --> 00:37:07,987
distance of three

1370
00:37:07,987 --> 00:37:09,789
blocks from new

1371
00:37:09,789 --> 00:37:11,789
development. In that

1372
00:37:11,891 --> 00:37:12,491
passed and then we

1373
00:37:12,491 --> 00:37:14,600
recommended adding

1374
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,494
density to transit

1375
00:37:15,494 --> 00:37:16,595
corridors to four

1376
00:37:16,595 --> 00:37:18,731
stories or more that

1377
00:37:18,731 --> 00:37:19,331
passed also considered

1378
00:37:19,331 --> 00:37:20,966
whether or not to

1379
00:37:20,966 --> 00:37:22,334
annex parts of uc

1380
00:37:22,334 --> 00:37:22,902
davis with student

1381
00:37:22,902 --> 00:37:25,302
housing, and that did

1382
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:26,839
not pass with that, I'm

1383
00:37:26,839 --> 00:37:28,107
going to open it up to

1384
00:37:28,107 --> 00:37:30,507
public comment and then

1385
00:37:30,609 --> 00:37:32,110
we'll revisit these

1386
00:37:32,110 --> 00:37:33,145
points one more time.

1387
00:37:33,145 --> 00:37:33,746
Are there any folks

1388
00:37:33,746 --> 00:37:34,913
here for public

1389
00:37:34,913 --> 00:37:37,313
comment on the general

1390
00:37:41,787 --> 00:37:42,354
plan??

1391
00:37:42,354 --> 00:37:43,555
>> good evening. My

1392
00:37:43,555 --> 00:37:45,955
name is brad sutton.

1393
00:37:46,124 --> 00:37:48,524
>> I live in horse

1394
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,462
subdivision. On the

1395
00:37:50,462 --> 00:37:52,598
council goals for the

1396
00:37:52,598 --> 00:37:54,660
general plan udates.

1397
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,660
Specifically on the

1398
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:58,737
climate and the

1399
00:37:58,737 --> 00:38:00,573
permanency of

1400
00:38:00,573 --> 00:38:01,240
easements such as the

1401
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:02,700
conservation

1402
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:03,342
easements, which

1403
00:38:03,342 --> 00:38:05,342
california civil code

1404
00:38:06,612 --> 00:38:07,480
section eight eight.

1405
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,413
15.2, subsection b, a

1406
00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:09,848
conservation easement

1407
00:38:09,848 --> 00:38:12,500
shall be prpetual and

1408
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:12,618
in duration. Those are

1409
00:38:12,618 --> 00:38:14,553
important because a

1410
00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:15,988
lot of our studies and

1411
00:38:15,988 --> 00:38:16,722
plans you look at

1412
00:38:16,722 --> 00:38:17,423
things like flooding,

1413
00:38:17,423 --> 00:38:19,423
like we're talking

1414
00:38:19,925 --> 00:38:21,925
about tonight. The

1415
00:38:22,828 --> 00:38:23,929
depth and frequency of

1416
00:38:23,929 --> 00:38:25,364
flooding are based on

1417
00:38:25,364 --> 00:38:26,399
those conservation

1418
00:38:26,399 --> 00:38:27,867
easements and the

1419
00:38:27,867 --> 00:38:29,867
absorption of that

1420
00:38:31,436 --> 00:38:32,538
land. Those studies.

1421
00:38:32,538 --> 00:38:33,390
Assume that the

1422
00:38:33,390 --> 00:38:34,673
conservation easements

1423
00:38:34,673 --> 00:38:36,542
and going to remain

1424
00:38:36,542 --> 00:38:37,910
there as opposed to

1425
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:39,440
paving that over.

1426
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,145
Having additional

1427
00:38:40,145 --> 00:38:42,281
roofs and then having

1428
00:38:42,281 --> 00:38:43,382
all of that runoff go

1429
00:38:43,382 --> 00:38:44,850
someplace where right

1430
00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:45,684
now the conservation

1431
00:38:45,684 --> 00:38:47,684
easement is absorbing

1432
00:38:49,455 --> 00:38:51,855
that.. It's it's it's

1433
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:53,459
really important that

1434
00:38:53,459 --> 00:38:55,459
the general plan

1435
00:38:56,362 --> 00:38:58,163
update make clear and

1436
00:38:58,163 --> 00:38:59,164
prevent the inverse

1437
00:38:59,164 --> 00:39:00,266
condemnation of flow

1438
00:39:00,266 --> 00:39:00,966
easements on

1439
00:39:00,966 --> 00:39:02,735
properties that are

1440
00:39:02,735 --> 00:39:03,335
dependent upon the

1441
00:39:03,335 --> 00:39:04,636
conservation easement.

1442
00:39:04,636 --> 00:39:05,204
When someone flows

1443
00:39:05,204 --> 00:39:06,400
water over someone

1444
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,400
else's property, they

1445
00:39:08,573 --> 00:39:10,342
have to have a flow

1446
00:39:10,342 --> 00:39:13,342
and if the city were

1447
00:39:14,713 --> 00:39:16,148
to basically take away

1448
00:39:16,148 --> 00:39:17,182
those, those

1449
00:39:17,182 --> 00:39:18,170
conservation easements

1450
00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:19,752
that can result in an

1451
00:39:19,752 --> 00:39:21,520
inverse condemnation.

1452
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,655
Of flow easement on

1453
00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:25,900
properties. That are

1454
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:27,900
statutorily permanent

1455
00:39:27,326 --> 00:39:29,794
and I also ask that it

1456
00:39:29,794 --> 00:39:32,794
make clear that we not

1457
00:39:33,699 --> 00:39:36,990
move channel a and

1458
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:38,103
that that all

1459
00:39:38,103 --> 00:39:38,971
development occur

1460
00:39:38,971 --> 00:39:40,572
south of the current

1461
00:39:40,572 --> 00:39:41,673
channel. A, which is

1462
00:39:41,673 --> 00:39:42,775
which is necessary for

1463
00:39:42,775 --> 00:39:44,209
the health and safety

1464
00:39:44,209 --> 00:39:46,609
of our citizens. So

1465
00:39:46,712 --> 00:39:47,813
thank you

1466
00:39:47,813 --> 00:39:48,680
>> you for those

1467
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,680
comments. Next comment

1468
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,887
please. Is hopefully

1469
00:39:54,887 --> 00:39:55,754
these comments are

1470
00:39:55,754 --> 00:39:56,621
relevant as it seems

1471
00:39:56,621 --> 00:39:58,223
like things are moving

1472
00:39:58,223 --> 00:39:58,791
pretty quickly I am

1473
00:39:58,791 --> 00:40:00,240
concerned that the

1474
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:00,626
process is being

1475
00:40:00,626 --> 00:40:02,227
tracked, given that the

1476
00:40:02,227 --> 00:40:02,828
commission have been

1477
00:40:02,828 --> 00:40:05,640
and there's really no

1478
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:05,630
broader participation.

1479
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:07,630
Frequently relative to

1480
00:40:07,633 --> 00:40:08,267
how fast the moving.

1481
00:40:08,267 --> 00:40:09,401
So please preserve the

1482
00:40:09,401 --> 00:40:10,102
main policies and

1483
00:40:10,102 --> 00:40:11,570
principles that

1484
00:40:11,570 --> 00:40:12,971
current citizens. Based

1485
00:40:12,971 --> 00:40:15,173
plan, with only minor

1486
00:40:15,173 --> 00:40:15,774
updates. Our historic

1487
00:40:15,774 --> 00:40:17,420
neighborhoods by

1488
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:17,676
preventing higher

1489
00:40:17,676 --> 00:40:18,177
there. This

1490
00:40:18,177 --> 00:40:19,144
neighborhoods are part

1491
00:40:19,144 --> 00:40:20,579
of what gives davis as

1492
00:40:20,579 --> 00:40:21,146
lovely character

1493
00:40:21,146 --> 00:40:22,460
provide real climate

1494
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:22,614
change solutions,

1495
00:40:22,614 --> 00:40:23,182
including better

1496
00:40:23,182 --> 00:40:24,149
public transit, to

1497
00:40:24,149 --> 00:40:25,284
meet our climate

1498
00:40:25,284 --> 00:40:27,284
action and rotation

1499
00:40:27,419 --> 00:40:28,853
plan and offset by

1500
00:40:28,853 --> 00:40:29,555
development

1501
00:40:29,555 --> 00:40:30,289
consultants. Preferred

1502
00:40:30,289 --> 00:40:31,230
land use alternative

1503
00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:32,458
map should not have

1504
00:40:32,458 --> 00:40:32,958
included farm site in

1505
00:40:32,958 --> 00:40:34,259
the first place, given

1506
00:40:34,259 --> 00:40:35,661
a multiple problems

1507
00:40:35,661 --> 00:40:36,828
with toxic sludge and

1508
00:40:36,828 --> 00:40:38,597
endangered species.

1509
00:40:38,597 --> 00:40:39,198
That vote voters choice

1510
00:40:39,198 --> 00:40:41,660
rejected similar

1511
00:40:41,660 --> 00:40:42,167
proposals. There even

1512
00:40:42,167 --> 00:40:42,768
after all the multiple

1513
00:40:42,768 --> 00:40:43,669
comments I've been

1514
00:40:43,669 --> 00:40:44,236
hearing that these

1515
00:40:44,236 --> 00:40:45,771
meetings I couldn't

1516
00:40:45,771 --> 00:40:46,371
find an updated map

1517
00:40:46,371 --> 00:40:47,539
they had changed the

1518
00:40:47,539 --> 00:40:49,700
map to only be below

1519
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:50,108
the channel. So I feel

1520
00:40:50,108 --> 00:40:50,709
like voters are being

1521
00:40:50,709 --> 00:40:51,910
kind of ignored on

1522
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:52,478
that. And could you

1523
00:40:52,478 --> 00:40:54,379
please advise them

1524
00:40:54,379 --> 00:40:54,947
that I'm concerned

1525
00:40:54,947 --> 00:40:56,947
extremely concerned

1526
00:40:57,282 --> 00:40:57,916
also about te

1527
00:40:57,916 --> 00:41:00,185
recently as they were

1528
00:41:00,185 --> 00:41:01,530
before the village

1529
00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:02,654
started in the initial

1530
00:41:02,654 --> 00:41:03,322
map included housing

1531
00:41:03,322 --> 00:41:05,223
on top of the vernal

1532
00:41:05,223 --> 00:41:06,325
pool. There this is

1533
00:41:06,325 --> 00:41:08,460
despite the fact that

1534
00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:09,270
pool documented in the

1535
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:10,229
ir are protected by

1536
00:41:10,229 --> 00:41:11,363
the fderal endangered

1537
00:41:11,363 --> 00:41:12,731
species act and that we

1538
00:41:12,731 --> 00:41:15,131
all knew about this

1539
00:41:15,633 --> 00:41:16,735
pools. Village. Ago.

1540
00:41:16,735 --> 00:41:17,436
So it's imperative to

1541
00:41:17,436 --> 00:41:19,238
set aside the vernal

1542
00:41:19,238 --> 00:41:20,639
pool habitat and plan

1543
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:22,474
map. Along with other

1544
00:41:22,474 --> 00:41:23,909
habitat critically

1545
00:41:23,909 --> 00:41:24,409
species and

1546
00:41:24,409 --> 00:41:25,377
conservation easements

1547
00:41:25,377 --> 00:41:27,777
as quickly as possible

1548
00:41:27,946 --> 00:41:28,913
to protect a prior

1549
00:41:28,913 --> 00:41:29,715
meeting discussed

1550
00:41:29,715 --> 00:41:31,150
easement consolidation

1551
00:41:31,150 --> 00:41:31,517
and found that really

1552
00:41:31,517 --> 00:41:32,518
confusing. As I

1553
00:41:32,518 --> 00:41:33,180
thought all

1554
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:33,986
conservation easements

1555
00:41:33,986 --> 00:41:34,552
were improved

1556
00:41:34,552 --> 00:41:35,753
perpetuity, so that

1557
00:41:35,753 --> 00:41:36,221
could be clarified and

1558
00:41:36,221 --> 00:41:37,189
there could be a list

1559
00:41:37,189 --> 00:41:37,956
of all the current

1560
00:41:37,956 --> 00:41:39,458
conservation easements

1561
00:41:39,458 --> 00:41:40,325
on the map. And show

1562
00:41:40,325 --> 00:41:41,192
that that's really off

1563
00:41:41,192 --> 00:41:43,192
limits to all

1564
00:41:43,362 --> 00:41:44,829
development. And line

1565
00:41:44,829 --> 00:41:45,397
is problematic because

1566
00:41:45,397 --> 00:41:46,731
doesn't seem to be a

1567
00:41:46,731 --> 00:41:47,699
plan. After the line

1568
00:41:47,699 --> 00:41:48,734
is reached. So we

1569
00:41:48,734 --> 00:41:50,734
should instead instead

1570
00:41:51,636 --> 00:41:52,771
be carefully potential

1571
00:41:52,771 --> 00:41:53,605
development and there's

1572
00:41:53,605 --> 00:41:55,240
supporting measure jr d

1573
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:55,674
as it is, I

1574
00:41:55,674 --> 00:41:56,708
continually hear.

1575
00:41:56,708 --> 00:41:58,143
Measure jr d is being

1576
00:41:58,143 --> 00:41:59,244
blamed for housing

1577
00:41:59,244 --> 00:41:59,811
situation.

1578
00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:00,679
Acknowledging that

1579
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:01,546
historically the city

1580
00:42:01,546 --> 00:42:02,514
has not provided

1581
00:42:02,514 --> 00:42:03,515
adequate housing, te

1582
00:42:03,515 --> 00:42:04,115
city has allowed

1583
00:42:04,115 --> 00:42:04,983
apartments designed

1584
00:42:04,983 --> 00:42:06,418
for students rented by

1585
00:42:06,418 --> 00:42:07,519
the band, which

1586
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:08,553
excludes other.

1587
00:42:08,553 --> 00:42:09,722
Housing. Even citizens

1588
00:42:09,722 --> 00:42:10,540
vote yes on

1589
00:42:10,540 --> 00:42:10,555
development,

1590
00:42:10,555 --> 00:42:11,890
developers haven't

1591
00:42:11,890 --> 00:42:12,190
followed through on

1592
00:42:12,190 --> 00:42:13,580
their campaign

1593
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:13,992
promises, so jrd is

1594
00:42:13,992 --> 00:42:15,992
not the problem.

1595
00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:17,930
Please as it is neds

1596
00:42:17,930 --> 00:42:19,364
more on campus

1597
00:42:19,364 --> 00:42:20,832
housing, including of

1598
00:42:20,832 --> 00:42:21,833
staff housing years ago

1599
00:42:21,833 --> 00:42:22,301
there was a great

1600
00:42:22,301 --> 00:42:23,735
presentation to the

1601
00:42:23,735 --> 00:42:24,569
city council showing

1602
00:42:24,569 --> 00:42:25,503
multiple on campus &

1603
00:42:25,503 --> 00:42:26,371
locations suitable for

1604
00:42:26,371 --> 00:42:27,973
staff and student

1605
00:42:27,973 --> 00:42:29,107
housing so please

1606
00:42:29,107 --> 00:42:29,508
revisit that to

1607
00:42:29,508 --> 00:42:30,876
relieve housing

1608
00:42:30,876 --> 00:42:31,476
pressures in town and

1609
00:42:31,476 --> 00:42:32,710
then off campus. We

1610
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:33,278
need multiple housing

1611
00:42:33,278 --> 00:42:35,581
types to meet a

1612
00:42:35,581 --> 00:42:36,248
variety o needs

1613
00:42:36,248 --> 00:42:37,150
affordability and

1614
00:42:37,150 --> 00:42:37,615
environmental

1615
00:42:37,615 --> 00:42:39,518
sustainability. Thank

1616
00:42:39,518 --> 00:42:40,919
you very much.

1617
00:42:40,919 --> 00:42:42,919
>> thank you. Next

1618
00:42:52,464 --> 00:42:53,310
comment.

1619
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:55,431
>> can you hear me

1620
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,869
now? Okay, all right.

1621
00:42:57,869 --> 00:42:58,437
And dear planning

1622
00:42:58,437 --> 00:42:59,638
commissioner, city

1623
00:42:59,638 --> 00:43:01,105
staff and consultants.

1624
00:43:01,105 --> 00:43:01,940
My name is zev lang

1625
00:43:01,940 --> 00:43:03,308
and I am greatly

1626
00:43:03,308 --> 00:43:03,875
concerned that this

1627
00:43:03,875 --> 00:43:04,543
general plan process

1628
00:43:04,543 --> 00:43:05,810
is being fast tracked

1629
00:43:05,810 --> 00:43:07,612
and appears to want to

1630
00:43:07,612 --> 00:43:09,381
gut an overhaul. Our

1631
00:43:09,381 --> 00:43:10,482
current citizens based

1632
00:43:10,482 --> 00:43:11,583
general plan. Some of

1633
00:43:11,583 --> 00:43:13,385
the issues that

1634
00:43:13,385 --> 00:43:14,852
concern me the most

1635
00:43:14,852 --> 00:43:15,420
following one the

1636
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:16,621
revised preferred land

1637
00:43:16,621 --> 00:43:18,423
use alternative plan

1638
00:43:18,423 --> 00:43:18,990
map. Retains village

1639
00:43:18,990 --> 00:43:20,224
farms as it was &

1640
00:43:20,224 --> 00:43:21,920
proposed, in measure

1641
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,694
v, even though this was

1642
00:43:22,694 --> 00:43:23,328
rejected by david's

1643
00:43:23,328 --> 00:43:24,930
voters. The map needs

1644
00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:26,364
to be updated in the

1645
00:43:26,364 --> 00:43:26,998
urban limit line.

1646
00:43:26,998 --> 00:43:28,133
Channel a so that

1647
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:28,866
there's no development

1648
00:43:28,866 --> 00:43:29,601
north of the channel,

1649
00:43:29,601 --> 00:43:30,968
where the bulk of the

1650
00:43:30,968 --> 00:43:32,437
mass of floodplain

1651
00:43:32,437 --> 00:43:33,305
toxics are from the

1652
00:43:33,305 --> 00:43:34,640
unlined old davis

1653
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,640
landfill and sewage

1654
00:43:36,775 --> 00:43:37,409
treatment plants. Two

1655
00:43:37,409 --> 00:43:38,543
over densification and

1656
00:43:38,543 --> 00:43:39,644
the potential to

1657
00:43:39,644 --> 00:43:40,244
eliminate new single

1658
00:43:40,244 --> 00:43:41,780
family housing and

1659
00:43:41,780 --> 00:43:42,213
allowing only

1660
00:43:42,213 --> 00:43:43,948
multifamily housing

1661
00:43:43,948 --> 00:43:44,616
does not work as a one

1662
00:43:44,616 --> 00:43:46,151
size fits all slution

1663
00:43:46,151 --> 00:43:46,718
to a housing

1664
00:43:46,718 --> 00:43:47,920
challenges. While

1665
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,620
there is a need to

1666
00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:49,720
increase the densities

1667
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:50,755
to some extent, it

1668
00:43:50,755 --> 00:43:52,223
needs to be reasonable

1669
00:43:52,223 --> 00:43:53,658
and not impose

1670
00:43:53,658 --> 00:43:53,959
detrimentally on our

1671
00:43:53,959 --> 00:43:54,426
existing

1672
00:43:54,426 --> 00:43:56,426
neighborhoods. In the

1673
00:43:56,928 --> 00:43:57,696
case of infill

1674
00:43:57,696 --> 00:43:58,263
density, 5 to 7 story

1675
00:43:58,263 --> 00:43:59,970
housing does not

1676
00:43:59,970 --> 00:43:59,698
provide the

1677
00:43:59,698 --> 00:44:00,899
flexibility and

1678
00:44:00,899 --> 00:44:02,300
privacy families want

1679
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:03,168
for the kids and pets.

1680
00:44:03,168 --> 00:44:04,836
What city needs is a

1681
00:44:04,836 --> 00:44:06,271
mix of low, medium and

1682
00:44:06,271 --> 00:44:08,730
high density housing in

1683
00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:08,773
all new developments to

1684
00:44:08,773 --> 00:44:10,773
accommodate different

1685
00:44:10,976 --> 00:44:11,375
residential needs..

1686
00:44:11,375 --> 00:44:11,910
Three increasing

1687
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:13,445
housing density does

1688
00:44:13,445 --> 00:44:14,913
not work without first,

1689
00:44:14,913 --> 00:44:15,480
improving public

1690
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,348
transit. The current

1691
00:44:16,348 --> 00:44:17,449
public transit system

1692
00:44:17,449 --> 00:44:19,283
is designed primarily

1693
00:44:19,283 --> 00:44:20,285
to serve. Uc davis,

1694
00:44:20,285 --> 00:44:20,885
not the entire

1695
00:44:20,885 --> 00:44:22,153
community. Leading to

1696
00:44:22,153 --> 00:44:22,754
many of the ongoing

1697
00:44:22,754 --> 00:44:23,522
proposed housing

1698
00:44:23,522 --> 00:44:24,623
projects being

1699
00:44:24,623 --> 00:44:25,323
underserved especially

1700
00:44:25,323 --> 00:44:26,424
during school breaks

1701
00:44:26,424 --> 00:44:27,559
and increasing the

1702
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:29,559
traffic congestion

1703
00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:30,940
problem. Fixed transit

1704
00:44:30,940 --> 00:44:30,762
system first before

1705
00:44:30,762 --> 00:44:32,762
trying to increase

1706
00:44:33,231 --> 00:44:33,799
density significantly

1707
00:44:33,799 --> 00:44:35,330
stronger language is

1708
00:44:35,330 --> 00:44:36,835
needed in the general

1709
00:44:36,835 --> 00:44:38,303
plan. Release davis to

1710
00:44:38,303 --> 00:44:39,404
far more high density

1711
00:44:39,404 --> 00:44:40,872
housing on campus for

1712
00:44:40,872 --> 00:44:41,439
students, faculty and

1713
00:44:41,439 --> 00:44:43,700
staff. Being the

1714
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:43,842
largest uc campus for a

1715
00:44:43,842 --> 00:44:45,543
huge amount of dormant

1716
00:44:45,543 --> 00:44:47,345
land with housing such

1717
00:44:47,345 --> 00:44:47,913
as west dave, west

1718
00:44:47,913 --> 00:44:49,481
village, there is no

1719
00:44:49,481 --> 00:44:51,248
reason why uc davis

1720
00:44:51,248 --> 00:44:52,350
cannot also commit to

1721
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:52,951
building at least 50%

1722
00:44:52,951 --> 00:44:54,486
on campus housing.

1723
00:44:54,486 --> 00:44:55,921
Like all the other

1724
00:44:55,921 --> 00:44:57,422
except landlocked uc

1725
00:44:57,422 --> 00:44:58,856
berkeley. Uc irvine

1726
00:44:58,856 --> 00:44:59,323
and uc san diego are

1727
00:44:59,323 --> 00:45:00,659
successfully building

1728
00:45:00,659 --> 00:45:01,292
high density student

1729
00:45:01,292 --> 00:45:02,460
housing. So uc davis

1730
00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:04,229
has no excuse why it

1731
00:45:04,229 --> 00:45:05,697
can't producer as well

1732
00:45:05,697 --> 00:45:06,264
finally residents

1733
00:45:06,264 --> 00:45:07,464
wants our current

1734
00:45:07,464 --> 00:45:08,934
citizen based general

1735
00:45:08,934 --> 00:45:09,567
plan to serve and not

1736
00:45:09,567 --> 00:45:11,360
gutted. While it does

1737
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:11,636
need some updating

1738
00:45:11,636 --> 00:45:12,503
that does not mean

1739
00:45:12,503 --> 00:45:13,972
discarding the

1740
00:45:13,972 --> 00:45:14,472
excellent policies and

1741
00:45:14,472 --> 00:45:15,773
principles. There must

1742
00:45:15,773 --> 00:45:17,208
be no changes or

1743
00:45:17,208 --> 00:45:18,643
amending of measure j.

1744
00:45:18,643 --> 00:45:20,780
D the citizens right

1745
00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:21,545
to vote on future uses

1746
00:45:21,545 --> 00:45:22,613
of open space and

1747
00:45:22,613 --> 00:45:23,181
agricultural lands.

1748
00:45:23,181 --> 00:45:24,783
Davis residents do not

1749
00:45:24,783 --> 00:45:25,383
want measure grd

1750
00:45:25,383 --> 00:45:25,917
weakened exemptions

1751
00:45:25,917 --> 00:45:27,252
and made vulnerable to

1752
00:45:27,252 --> 00:45:29,252
being overturned.

1753
00:45:29,821 --> 00:45:30,421
Thank you.

1754
00:45:30,421 --> 00:45:31,957
>> thank you for the

1755
00:45:31,957 --> 00:45:33,580
public comment. Next,

1756
00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:33,925
please. Hi, my name is

1757
00:45:33,925 --> 00:45:35,193
elizabeth ray and I

1758
00:45:35,193 --> 00:45:36,694
have argued. I am hard

1759
00:45:36,694 --> 00:45:39,130
of hearing as well. I

1760
00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:40,932
need people to so.

1761
00:45:40,932 --> 00:45:43,134
Thank you for taking my

1762
00:45:43,134 --> 00:45:44,603
comments tonight I

1763
00:45:44,603 --> 00:45:46,300
wanted to say that I

1764
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:47,405
was really

1765
00:45:47,405 --> 00:45:49,207
disappointed and

1766
00:45:49,207 --> 00:45:51,760
alarmed to see that the

1767
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,444
village farms was in

1768
00:45:52,444 --> 00:45:53,879
map of the proposed

1769
00:45:53,879 --> 00:45:55,130
general plan update

1770
00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:57,148
and this is my comment

1771
00:45:57,148 --> 00:45:57,715
for it. For several

1772
00:45:57,715 --> 00:45:59,351
months earlier this &

1773
00:45:59,351 --> 00:46:00,385
year, village farms

1774
00:46:00,385 --> 00:46:01,886
village farms

1775
00:46:01,886 --> 00:46:03,886
developers steamrolled

1776
00:46:03,955 --> 00:46:05,560
of the I process to

1777
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,524
force a public vote

1778
00:46:06,524 --> 00:46:08,924
for their badly placed

1779
00:46:08,993 --> 00:46:09,761
between project on

1780
00:46:09,761 --> 00:46:10,628
JUNE 2nd of this year.

1781
00:46:10,628 --> 00:46:11,896
Likely because they

1782
00:46:11,896 --> 00:46:13,698
wanted the vote to

1783
00:46:13,698 --> 00:46:14,799
occur before two rather

1784
00:46:14,799 --> 00:46:16,267
large building

1785
00:46:16,267 --> 00:46:18,267
projects started in

1786
00:46:18,403 --> 00:46:20,171
downtown davis on JUNE

1787
00:46:20,171 --> 00:46:22,571
2nd. Their project was

1788
00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:25,210
again. Voted down by

1789
00:46:25,210 --> 00:46:27,450
davis voters that the

1790
00:46:27,450 --> 00:46:28,480
general plan update is

1791
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,282
included. Village

1792
00:46:30,282 --> 00:46:31,716
farms project in its

1793
00:46:31,716 --> 00:46:32,783
original proposed

1794
00:46:32,783 --> 00:46:34,285
configuration, with no

1795
00:46:34,285 --> 00:46:35,687
protection for the

1796
00:46:35,687 --> 00:46:36,287
pools in the map of the

1797
00:46:36,287 --> 00:46:38,189
proposed changes to

1798
00:46:38,189 --> 00:46:38,756
the general plan and

1799
00:46:38,756 --> 00:46:40,756
expressly against the

1800
00:46:40,759 --> 00:46:41,760
davis indicates that

1801
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,861
there is little

1802
00:46:42,861 --> 00:46:43,962
intention perhaps, of

1803
00:46:43,962 --> 00:46:45,797
the city ever

1804
00:46:45,797 --> 00:46:47,232
listening to voters

1805
00:46:47,232 --> 00:46:48,666
the map ignores the

1806
00:46:48,666 --> 00:46:50,666
eir drectives that

1807
00:46:51,169 --> 00:46:53,169
davis taxpayers paid

1808
00:46:53,705 --> 00:46:54,739
for this unregulated

1809
00:46:54,739 --> 00:46:56,541
ability of developers

1810
00:46:56,541 --> 00:46:58,941
and industry models to

1811
00:46:59,110 --> 00:46:59,944
infiltrate and control

1812
00:46:59,944 --> 00:47:01,579
every level of

1813
00:47:01,579 --> 00:47:03,448
decision making in our

1814
00:47:03,448 --> 00:47:04,150
city is extremely

1815
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:05,216
alarming. We are

1816
00:47:05,216 --> 00:47:06,584
seeing this and

1817
00:47:06,584 --> 00:47:07,185
national level

1818
00:47:07,185 --> 00:47:09,153
throughout every

1819
00:47:09,153 --> 00:47:11,553
single state in the

1820
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,657
united states. We are

1821
00:47:12,657 --> 00:47:13,825
seeing this level of

1822
00:47:13,825 --> 00:47:14,425
corporate bullying

1823
00:47:14,425 --> 00:47:15,993
occur throughout the

1824
00:47:15,993 --> 00:47:16,761
nation. Planning

1825
00:47:16,761 --> 00:47:18,129
commissions with

1826
00:47:18,129 --> 00:47:19,597
dangerous including

1827
00:47:19,597 --> 00:47:20,164
the force onto

1828
00:47:20,164 --> 00:47:21,366
unwilling and

1829
00:47:21,366 --> 00:47:21,966
outraged. Communities

1830
00:47:21,966 --> 00:47:23,234
who appear to be

1831
00:47:23,234 --> 00:47:25,634
seeing the same bully

1832
00:47:25,703 --> 00:47:26,303
boy tactics. Occurring

1833
00:47:26,303 --> 00:47:27,872
davis. With the

1834
00:47:27,872 --> 00:47:29,607
general plan update

1835
00:47:29,607 --> 00:47:31,607
with little insert

1836
00:47:32,576 --> 00:47:33,978
here. I am hping that

1837
00:47:33,978 --> 00:47:36,581
the people will be not

1838
00:47:36,581 --> 00:47:37,248
be so exhausted. Not

1839
00:47:37,248 --> 00:47:38,683
notice this at every

1840
00:47:38,683 --> 00:47:39,284
turn. The develops a

1841
00:47:39,284 --> 00:47:40,485
developers of this

1842
00:47:40,485 --> 00:47:42,885
project will start to

1843
00:47:43,210 --> 00:47:43,588
defy the voters have

1844
00:47:43,588 --> 00:47:44,856
smothered pblic

1845
00:47:44,856 --> 00:47:45,423
opinion and be appear

1846
00:47:45,423 --> 00:47:47,910
to have council

1847
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:48,920
members determined to

1848
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,930
assist these

1849
00:47:49,930 --> 00:47:51,930
developers at every

1850
00:47:51,996 --> 00:47:53,970
turn I am asking you

1851
00:47:53,970 --> 00:47:54,532
please make sure that

1852
00:47:54,532 --> 00:47:56,334
the village forms as it

1853
00:47:56,334 --> 00:47:56,934
is listed as it is,

1854
00:47:56,934 --> 00:47:58,836
was originally

1855
00:47:58,836 --> 00:48:00,271
planned, is removed

1856
00:48:00,271 --> 00:48:02,271
from the proposed

1857
00:48:02,407 --> 00:48:04,407
general plan update

1858
00:48:04,941 --> 00:48:06,744
only. This is the we

1859
00:48:06,744 --> 00:48:09,144
cannot develop on all

1860
00:48:09,314 --> 00:48:10,140
of this. Floodplain me

1861
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:12,116
I'm the safety manager

1862
00:48:12,116 --> 00:48:13,952
of a lrge animal

1863
00:48:13,952 --> 00:48:14,419
diagnostic facility.

1864
00:48:14,419 --> 00:48:15,386
We have one down to

1865
00:48:15,386 --> 00:48:16,521
larry. Everybody said,

1866
00:48:16,521 --> 00:48:17,655
well, it's not going to

1867
00:48:17,655 --> 00:48:20,550
flood. No problem. We

1868
00:48:20,425 --> 00:48:22,193
have taxpayers paid 75

1869
00:48:22,193 --> 00:48:23,661
million for it, but

1870
00:48:23,661 --> 00:48:25,429
from 2023. It flooded

1871
00:48:25,429 --> 00:48:27,231
and now guess what?

1872
00:48:27,231 --> 00:48:28,366
Just because some guy

1873
00:48:28,366 --> 00:48:29,801
said that, oh, don't

1874
00:48:29,801 --> 00:48:30,935
worry, we've mitigated

1875
00:48:30,935 --> 00:48:32,935
all the flooding

1876
00:48:33,738 --> 00:48:34,572
issues you guys are

1877
00:48:34,572 --> 00:48:35,940
paying 25 million to

1878
00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:37,742
pay for it thank you

1879
00:48:37,742 --> 00:48:38,609
for your comment while

1880
00:48:38,609 --> 00:48:39,878
the next public

1881
00:48:39,878 --> 00:48:41,312
commenter comes up,

1882
00:48:41,312 --> 00:48:43,481
ask staff to put up a

1883
00:48:43,481 --> 00:48:45,683
map of the floodplain

1884
00:48:45,683 --> 00:48:48,830
tee up our discussion

1885
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:49,287
for the davis and the

1886
00:48:49,287 --> 00:48:49,921
floodplain? It was.

1887
00:48:49,921 --> 00:48:51,389
Don't think we have

1888
00:48:51,389 --> 00:48:53,191
that with us tonight.

1889
00:48:53,191 --> 00:48:56,426
It was part of our the

1890
00:48:56,426 --> 00:48:57,528
last time we met we'll

1891
00:48:57,528 --> 00:49:00,765
try to see if you find

1892
00:49:00,765 --> 00:49:01,633
it. Thank you. You're

1893
00:49:01,633 --> 00:49:02,900
welcome to start your

1894
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:03,668
public comment. Yeah.

1895
00:49:03,668 --> 00:49:05,668
>> could you. Okay.

1896
00:49:06,938 --> 00:49:09,730
Thank you. Come on

1897
00:49:09,730 --> 00:49:10,508
>> is I have been

1898
00:49:10,508 --> 00:49:11,976
attending your meeting

1899
00:49:11,976 --> 00:49:14,779
a couple of times, and

1900
00:49:14,779 --> 00:49:17,140
I served as historical

1901
00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:17,481
resources management

1902
00:49:17,481 --> 00:49:19,117
commission for five

1903
00:49:19,117 --> 00:49:19,717
years and I'm here

1904
00:49:19,717 --> 00:49:22,190
first. You know, I

1905
00:49:22,190 --> 00:49:24,188
want to I was a

1906
00:49:24,188 --> 00:49:25,590
realtor before I was a

1907
00:49:25,590 --> 00:49:26,724
realtor. I was manager

1908
00:49:26,724 --> 00:49:28,526
for 18 years. And then

1909
00:49:28,526 --> 00:49:30,628
I become I lost my job

1910
00:49:30,628 --> 00:49:32,797
to I. I become a

1911
00:49:32,797 --> 00:49:34,565
realtor worked for

1912
00:49:34,565 --> 00:49:35,666
banker and mexico. So

1913
00:49:35,666 --> 00:49:37,135
when I taught

1914
00:49:37,135 --> 00:49:38,269
listening these

1915
00:49:38,269 --> 00:49:40,380
comments, I want to

1916
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:41,506
share with everyone my

1917
00:49:41,506 --> 00:49:42,841
knowledge as you know,

1918
00:49:42,841 --> 00:49:44,841
the actually the

1919
00:49:45,409 --> 00:49:47,178
easement. Has no

1920
00:49:47,178 --> 00:49:49,178
ownership of transfer

1921
00:49:50,448 --> 00:49:52,249
and the conservation

1922
00:49:52,249 --> 00:49:53,684
easement is

1923
00:49:53,684 --> 00:49:55,486
restricting for

1924
00:49:55,486 --> 00:49:57,486
development. It's is

1925
00:49:58,220 --> 00:49:59,423
set up to protect the

1926
00:49:59,423 --> 00:49:59,991
land. So when the

1927
00:49:59,991 --> 00:50:01,259
developers say, oh, we

1928
00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:03,427
want the estimate, you

1929
00:50:03,427 --> 00:50:05,229
don't have implement

1930
00:50:05,229 --> 00:50:06,330
and the city can ask

1931
00:50:06,330 --> 00:50:07,164
easement is for

1932
00:50:07,164 --> 00:50:08,432
protecting the land &

1933
00:50:08,432 --> 00:50:10,601
and the city won't get

1934
00:50:10,601 --> 00:50:11,202
the ownership. And the

1935
00:50:11,202 --> 00:50:12,803
second one is for the

1936
00:50:12,803 --> 00:50:14,803
whatever comments is,

1937
00:50:15,273 --> 00:50:17,410
is like three,

1938
00:50:17,410 --> 00:50:19,410
whatever, you know

1939
00:50:19,277 --> 00:50:20,144
place for seven years,

1940
00:50:20,144 --> 00:50:22,112
I'm driving around the

1941
00:50:22,112 --> 00:50:23,581
city as a realtor.

1942
00:50:23,581 --> 00:50:25,349
Only serve city of

1943
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:26,784
david here. I do not

1944
00:50:26,784 --> 00:50:28,219
go to sacramento very

1945
00:50:28,219 --> 00:50:30,619
often I've never heard

1946
00:50:31,822 --> 00:50:33,822
that. Shelters are..

1947
00:50:34,759 --> 00:50:36,493
Avenue. Street line at

1948
00:50:36,493 --> 00:50:37,662
gate. I want to share

1949
00:50:37,662 --> 00:50:39,764
something else. As you

1950
00:50:39,764 --> 00:50:41,565
know when I doing

1951
00:50:41,565 --> 00:50:43,565
research on senate

1952
00:50:43,668 --> 00:50:45,469
bill 3706 and the

1953
00:50:45,469 --> 00:50:47,469
title is communist

1954
00:50:48,706 --> 00:50:50,706
control actor signed

1955
00:50:51,309 --> 00:50:53,411
into law in 1954. And

1956
00:50:53,411 --> 00:50:53,978
if you read the more

1957
00:50:53,978 --> 00:50:55,179
details about the

1958
00:50:55,179 --> 00:50:56,647
debate, why that you

1959
00:50:56,647 --> 00:50:58,820
know, the communist is

1960
00:50:58,820 --> 00:51:00,820
outlawed and it's

1961
00:51:01,180 --> 00:51:02,120
because the war time.

1962
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,888
United states, russia,

1963
00:51:03,888 --> 00:51:06,390
china made a lot of

1964
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:07,825
it's called

1965
00:51:07,825 --> 00:51:09,627
mobilization

1966
00:51:09,627 --> 00:51:11,620
equipment. Rights

1967
00:51:11,620 --> 00:51:12,196
looks so real. And

1968
00:51:12,196 --> 00:51:13,230
after the war, the

1969
00:51:13,230 --> 00:51:13,831
government actually

1970
00:51:13,831 --> 00:51:15,433
liquidated them. And

1971
00:51:15,433 --> 00:51:17,433
sold to private

1972
00:51:17,568 --> 00:51:19,568
citizens. And

1973
00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:22,437
whatever, you know as

1974
00:51:22,606 --> 00:51:24,606
secretary and those

1975
00:51:25,476 --> 00:51:27,645
robots do not the toys

1976
00:51:27,645 --> 00:51:29,146
do not have legal

1977
00:51:29,146 --> 00:51:30,548
personhood to you

1978
00:51:30,548 --> 00:51:31,983
know, men shall not

1979
00:51:31,983 --> 00:51:33,170
allow your robots to

1980
00:51:33,170 --> 00:51:34,819
vote and they shall

1981
00:51:34,819 --> 00:51:35,920
not let them not own

1982
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,540
any property because

1983
00:51:37,540 --> 00:51:38,823
they're not even

1984
00:51:38,823 --> 00:51:40,291
human. And the gene is

1985
00:51:40,291 --> 00:51:41,124
not a human. It's a

1986
00:51:41,124 --> 00:51:42,760
realtor. I think maybe

1987
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,995
that's why my, you

1988
00:51:44,995 --> 00:51:46,330
know, memory and they

1989
00:51:46,330 --> 00:51:48,532
cannot you know, alter

1990
00:51:48,532 --> 00:51:50,000
or inner street and

1991
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,435
anything like that.

1992
00:51:51,435 --> 00:51:52,303
And one, one last thing

1993
00:51:52,303 --> 00:51:53,571
I noticed the bike

1994
00:51:53,571 --> 00:51:55,390
rack is much, much

1995
00:51:55,390 --> 00:51:55,906
less than before. And

1996
00:51:55,906 --> 00:51:59,506
I want to know what is

1997
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,846
going on. Thank you..

1998
00:52:01,846 --> 00:52:03,647
>> thank you I can

1999
00:52:03,647 --> 00:52:05,416
direct staff to it. It

2000
00:52:05,416 --> 00:52:06,550
was in our packet last

2001
00:52:06,550 --> 00:52:07,952
week. It's the map of

2002
00:52:07,952 --> 00:52:08,686
all owned land with

2003
00:52:08,686 --> 00:52:09,787
sphere of influence.

2004
00:52:09,787 --> 00:52:11,255
And then there's a link

2005
00:52:11,255 --> 00:52:12,590
to the general

2006
00:52:12,590 --> 00:52:14,825
plan.Com. And and

2007
00:52:14,825 --> 00:52:15,693
concept. Number four

2008
00:52:15,693 --> 00:52:16,927
has concepts outside

2009
00:52:16,927 --> 00:52:18,280
of the city for

2010
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,280
annexation with

2011
00:52:20,531 --> 00:52:21,665
floodplains thank you.

2012
00:52:21,665 --> 00:52:22,233
Sorry. Please go

2013
00:52:22,233 --> 00:52:24,233
ahead. Make your

2014
00:52:26,670 --> 00:52:27,271
public comment. Eileen

2015
00:52:27,271 --> 00:52:29,907
as you know, I was a

2016
00:52:29,907 --> 00:52:31,709
former o planning boy

2017
00:52:31,709 --> 00:52:32,843
right in front of

2018
00:52:32,843 --> 00:52:33,511
better. Former

2019
00:52:33,511 --> 00:52:34,780
planning commissioner.

2020
00:52:34,780 --> 00:52:35,312
I served on the

2021
00:52:35,312 --> 00:52:37,810
general plan update on

2022
00:52:37,810 --> 00:52:38,248
the land use committee

2023
00:52:38,248 --> 00:52:38,883
and the subsequent

2024
00:52:38,883 --> 00:52:39,450
housing element

2025
00:52:39,450 --> 00:52:41,840
steering committee. And

2026
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:41,418
I'm coordinator of

2027
00:52:41,418 --> 00:52:43,418
citizens for

2028
00:52:43,921 --> 00:52:45,220
responsible planning

2029
00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:46,122
concerns also about the

2030
00:52:46,122 --> 00:52:48,122
general plan update

2031
00:52:49,930 --> 00:52:50,828
and center. A letter

2032
00:52:50,828 --> 00:52:52,196
city's concerns. I,

2033
00:52:52,196 --> 00:52:54,640
like many others. Feel

2034
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,980
that our general plan,

2035
00:52:55,980 --> 00:52:56,867
which is based.

2036
00:52:56,867 --> 00:52:58,200
General plan is an

2037
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,437
excellent progressive

2038
00:52:59,437 --> 00:53:00,370
which needs updating,

2039
00:53:00,370 --> 00:53:01,238
which should not be

2040
00:53:01,238 --> 00:53:01,839
gutted or, you know,

2041
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:03,839
have a cmplete

2042
00:53:04,475 --> 00:53:05,943
overhaul. We also

2043
00:53:05,943 --> 00:53:07,745
don't want measure j or

2044
00:53:07,745 --> 00:53:08,312
d amended or have

2045
00:53:08,312 --> 00:53:09,146
exemptions which would

2046
00:53:09,146 --> 00:53:10,948
weaken it and set it

2047
00:53:10,948 --> 00:53:11,549
up to be overturned.

2048
00:53:11,549 --> 00:53:12,416
The general plan does

2049
00:53:12,416 --> 00:53:14,218
not need to get into

2050
00:53:14,218 --> 00:53:14,885
the subject. Most

2051
00:53:14,885 --> 00:53:16,190
importantly, the

2052
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:17,821
consultants draft

2053
00:53:17,821 --> 00:53:19,256
preferred alternative

2054
00:53:19,256 --> 00:53:20,691
map a critical change.

2055
00:53:20,691 --> 00:53:23,594
If there is. If there

2056
00:53:23,594 --> 00:53:24,628
is an line as the map

2057
00:53:24,628 --> 00:53:25,729
includes right now it

2058
00:53:25,729 --> 00:53:27,163
needs to be moved

2059
00:53:27,163 --> 00:53:28,320
south on the village

2060
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,666
farms, land to the

2061
00:53:29,666 --> 00:53:30,534
channel. A this means

2062
00:53:30,534 --> 00:53:32,534
no development. North

2063
00:53:32,536 --> 00:53:34,371
of the channel because

2064
00:53:34,371 --> 00:53:35,506
there is. Above the

2065
00:53:35,506 --> 00:53:36,473
channel a it would be.

2066
00:53:36,473 --> 00:53:37,730
It's where all the

2067
00:53:37,730 --> 00:53:39,730
toxics are coming

2068
00:53:40,144 --> 00:53:41,211
from. The adjacent old

2069
00:53:41,211 --> 00:53:42,979
landfill and the

2070
00:53:42,979 --> 00:53:44,748
enormous floodplain.

2071
00:53:44,748 --> 00:53:45,882
And there should only

2072
00:53:45,882 --> 00:53:47,500
be 900 to a. Thousand

2073
00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:49,119
to a thousand units

2074
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:50,220
maximum importantly, it

2075
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:50,788
needs to have a

2076
00:53:50,788 --> 00:53:52,788
conservation easement

2077
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:54,124
on the pools as you as

2078
00:53:54,124 --> 00:53:55,993
I spoke earlier about

2079
00:53:55,993 --> 00:53:57,394
why and also to have

2080
00:53:57,394 --> 00:53:59,394
protective funding for

2081
00:54:00,998 --> 00:54:03,533
it to the future. So

2082
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:04,134
the reduced footprint.

2083
00:54:04,134 --> 00:54:05,200
Alternative that was

2084
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,804
from the that was in

2085
00:54:06,804 --> 00:54:07,738
the general in the

2086
00:54:07,738 --> 00:54:10,400
village. Ir is similar

2087
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:10,674
to what we proposed

2088
00:54:10,674 --> 00:54:11,750
was the

2089
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:11,842
environmentally

2090
00:54:11,842 --> 00:54:13,243
superior alternatives.

2091
00:54:13,243 --> 00:54:13,878
And distances. The

2092
00:54:13,878 --> 00:54:15,112
housing from the you

2093
00:54:15,112 --> 00:54:16,113
know, from the toxics

2094
00:54:16,113 --> 00:54:17,214
and, you know, as

2095
00:54:17,214 --> 00:54:17,814
floodplain and reduces

2096
00:54:17,814 --> 00:54:18,648
all the impacts.

2097
00:54:18,648 --> 00:54:20,830
That's what needs to

2098
00:54:20,830 --> 00:54:21,552
be done on this map.

2099
00:54:21,552 --> 00:54:23,320
There should be no

2100
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:23,887
building on large fema

2101
00:54:23,887 --> 00:54:25,489
floodplains. I'm not

2102
00:54:25,489 --> 00:54:26,924
sure how the

2103
00:54:26,924 --> 00:54:28,250
commission kind of got

2104
00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:28,892
off on that, because

2105
00:54:28,892 --> 00:54:30,161
it doesn't make any

2106
00:54:30,161 --> 00:54:31,628
sense. I mean, that is

2107
00:54:31,628 --> 00:54:33,630
a planning principle.

2108
00:54:33,630 --> 00:54:34,980
101. Is you don't

2109
00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:34,598
build on enormous

2110
00:54:34,598 --> 00:54:36,598
floodplains and looked

2111
00:54:36,633 --> 00:54:37,267
at natomas, all those

2112
00:54:37,267 --> 00:54:38,102
examples of where

2113
00:54:38,102 --> 00:54:39,200
flooding has happened.

2114
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:39,903
And this just cost the

2115
00:54:39,903 --> 00:54:40,603
state is not going to

2116
00:54:40,603 --> 00:54:41,672
bail us out anymore.

2117
00:54:41,672 --> 00:54:42,272
The state has said, you

2118
00:54:42,272 --> 00:54:43,140
know, if you're dumb

2119
00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:44,273
enough to build on a on

2120
00:54:44,273 --> 00:54:44,842
a floodplain and

2121
00:54:44,842 --> 00:54:46,900
you're going to eat it

2122
00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:47,377
when it happens, and it

2123
00:54:47,377 --> 00:54:49,777
will happen because we

2124
00:54:50,347 --> 00:54:51,282
have you know, cumming

2125
00:54:51,282 --> 00:54:52,516
super el nino coming

2126
00:54:52,516 --> 00:54:53,216
and no building on

2127
00:54:53,216 --> 00:54:53,683
conservation

2128
00:54:53,683 --> 00:54:54,985
easements, including

2129
00:54:54,985 --> 00:54:56,787
the well golf course

2130
00:54:56,787 --> 00:54:58,222
for crying out loud.

2131
00:54:58,222 --> 00:54:58,922
Both of tese are

2132
00:54:58,922 --> 00:55:00,230
planning principles.

2133
00:55:00,230 --> 00:55:01,458
Let's get better

2134
00:55:01,458 --> 00:55:02,125
transit instead of

2135
00:55:02,125 --> 00:55:03,593
just going like, let's

2136
00:55:03,593 --> 00:55:04,728
go. High dnsity, but

2137
00:55:04,728 --> 00:55:07,128
we don't have any

2138
00:55:07,263 --> 00:55:08,132
planning for transit

2139
00:55:08,132 --> 00:55:09,660
there needs to be much

2140
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:10,100
stronger language in

2141
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:10,667
the general plan.

2142
00:55:10,667 --> 00:55:12,302
Pressuring ucd to build

2143
00:55:12,302 --> 00:55:14,104
far more and far

2144
00:55:14,104 --> 00:55:14,772
higher density on

2145
00:55:14,772 --> 00:55:15,872
campus. I mean, they

2146
00:55:15,872 --> 00:55:17,341
need to practice what

2147
00:55:17,341 --> 00:55:18,809
their preaching to

2148
00:55:18,809 --> 00:55:19,276
everybody else

2149
00:55:19,276 --> 00:55:19,743
particularly because

2150
00:55:19,743 --> 00:55:21,743
they're the largest.

2151
00:55:21,979 --> 00:55:23,800
you see with over 5300

2152
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,514
acres and 900, 900 acre

2153
00:55:24,514 --> 00:55:25,810
port campus. And

2154
00:55:25,810 --> 00:55:27,417
there's a huge amount

2155
00:55:27,417 --> 00:55:28,190
of land still on west

2156
00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:29,219
village. So please.

2157
00:55:29,219 --> 00:55:30,320
And there's an lrdp

2158
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,354
coming up. So this is a

2159
00:55:31,354 --> 00:55:32,456
very important policy.

2160
00:55:32,456 --> 00:55:33,560
Thank you. Thank you

2161
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,560
for your public

2162
00:55:37,828 --> 00:55:39,296
comment.

2163
00:55:39,296 --> 00:55:41,296
>> right afternoon.

2164
00:55:41,398 --> 00:55:41,832
Commissioners and my

2165
00:55:41,832 --> 00:55:43,633
commission. I just

2166
00:55:43,633 --> 00:55:44,501
heard commissioner

2167
00:55:44,501 --> 00:55:46,501
director metzger say

2168
00:55:48,672 --> 00:55:50,473
that the course I can

2169
00:55:50,473 --> 00:55:51,909
I just heard director

2170
00:55:51,909 --> 00:55:52,276
metzger say that

2171
00:55:52,276 --> 00:55:53,710
transportation

2172
00:55:53,710 --> 00:55:55,479
commission had not yet

2173
00:55:55,479 --> 00:55:56,947
given feedback on the

2174
00:55:56,947 --> 00:55:58,947
general plan update.

2175
00:56:00,551 --> 00:56:01,510
We actually have

2176
00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:03,510
SEPTEMBER 4th meeting.

2177
00:56:03,487 --> 00:56:03,953
We passed a number of

2178
00:56:03,953 --> 00:56:04,888
recommendations that

2179
00:56:04,888 --> 00:56:07,288
were relayed to the

2180
00:56:07,691 --> 00:56:08,191
planning staff and on

2181
00:56:08,191 --> 00:56:08,659
the 17th of SEPTEMBER.

2182
00:56:08,659 --> 00:56:10,260
So they should have

2183
00:56:10,260 --> 00:56:11,728
received that I'll

2184
00:56:11,728 --> 00:56:13,497
just read them in the

2185
00:56:13,497 --> 00:56:14,965
record here. Thank

2186
00:56:14,965 --> 00:56:15,399
you. Planning

2187
00:56:15,399 --> 00:56:17,670
commissioners, for

2188
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:18,202
making recommendations

2189
00:56:18,202 --> 00:56:19,202
transportation and

2190
00:56:19,202 --> 00:56:20,637
protected bike lanes

2191
00:56:20,637 --> 00:56:21,805
seconded that and we

2192
00:56:21,805 --> 00:56:23,540
split that into

2193
00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:24,410
physically mobility

2194
00:56:24,410 --> 00:56:26,410
infrastructure as well

2195
00:56:26,477 --> 00:56:27,478
as gade separated

2196
00:56:27,478 --> 00:56:29,478
crossings around you

2197
00:56:30,747 --> 00:56:31,882
know. Hy arterials

2198
00:56:31,882 --> 00:56:33,283
recommended to include

2199
00:56:33,283 --> 00:56:34,785
some explain to the

2200
00:56:34,785 --> 00:56:35,385
public why we are

2201
00:56:35,385 --> 00:56:36,586
planning the way we're

2202
00:56:36,586 --> 00:56:37,153
planning for mobility,

2203
00:56:37,153 --> 00:56:38,354
that way we are

2204
00:56:38,354 --> 00:56:40,157
planning for it.

2205
00:56:40,157 --> 00:56:40,991
Otherwise can't expect

2206
00:56:40,991 --> 00:56:43,360
buy in from the public

2207
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,760
unless you make that

2208
00:56:47,970 --> 00:56:47,497
we also recommended

2209
00:56:47,497 --> 00:56:48,432
benchmarking the

2210
00:56:48,432 --> 00:56:49,566
success of

2211
00:56:49,566 --> 00:56:50,433
transportation to

2212
00:56:50,433 --> 00:56:52,200
whom? To who can

2213
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,103
navigate that young

2214
00:56:53,103 --> 00:56:54,538
people, old people or

2215
00:56:54,538 --> 00:56:56,500
aging in place and we

2216
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:57,374
need a plan for a

2217
00:56:57,374 --> 00:56:58,775
whole range of people

2218
00:56:58,775 --> 00:57:00,243
with a range of ages

2219
00:57:00,243 --> 00:57:02,479
and abilities so that

2220
00:57:02,479 --> 00:57:04,879
they can have options

2221
00:57:05,649 --> 00:57:06,283
to get to places

2222
00:57:06,283 --> 00:57:08,218
including making sure

2223
00:57:08,218 --> 00:57:08,852
that we have

2224
00:57:08,852 --> 00:57:09,453
neighborhood

2225
00:57:09,453 --> 00:57:10,754
destinations for

2226
00:57:10,754 --> 00:57:12,754
shopping for medical

2227
00:57:12,889 --> 00:57:13,590
need. For local

2228
00:57:13,590 --> 00:57:15,250
recreation, for

2229
00:57:15,250 --> 00:57:15,592
schools. The idea here,

2230
00:57:15,592 --> 00:57:16,860
and I heard

2231
00:57:16,860 --> 00:57:17,727
commissioner ro in the

2232
00:57:17,727 --> 00:57:20,960
last meeting talk about

2233
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:20,597
this, is, you know, 10

2234
00:57:20,597 --> 00:57:21,640
or 15 minute cities in

2235
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,300
europe. We just call

2236
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:24,735
them cities the idea

2237
00:57:24,735 --> 00:57:26,203
that you have this

2238
00:57:26,203 --> 00:57:26,770
need, right there. So

2239
00:57:26,770 --> 00:57:28,338
that you don't have to

2240
00:57:28,338 --> 00:57:30,106
get into a car for

2241
00:57:30,106 --> 00:57:31,274
everything. So when

2242
00:57:31,274 --> 00:57:32,375
when this is why it's

2243
00:57:32,375 --> 00:57:34,143
so important to have

2244
00:57:34,143 --> 00:57:35,110
planning and land use

2245
00:57:35,110 --> 00:57:36,280
and mobility planning

2246
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:36,847
side by side. So I'm

2247
00:57:36,847 --> 00:57:38,810
really pleased that we

2248
00:57:38,810 --> 00:57:40,183
are pushing both of

2249
00:57:40,183 --> 00:57:40,984
the forward together.

2250
00:57:40,984 --> 00:57:42,419
They also recommended

2251
00:57:42,419 --> 00:57:44,419
to potentiate any

2252
00:57:44,554 --> 00:57:46,356
potential green fields

2253
00:57:46,356 --> 00:57:47,457
developments for to

2254
00:57:47,457 --> 00:57:48,559
existing strip

2255
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:49,925
generators, because is

2256
00:57:49,925 --> 00:57:51,270
campuses in downtown

2257
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:52,495
and not all green

2258
00:57:52,495 --> 00:57:54,263
fields in the land use

2259
00:57:54,263 --> 00:57:56,663
plan are equal. We

2260
00:57:56,833 --> 00:57:58,168
also talked suggested

2261
00:57:58,168 --> 00:57:59,302
that we should

2262
00:57:59,302 --> 00:58:00,403
prioritize high

2263
00:58:00,403 --> 00:58:02,205
density transit

2264
00:58:02,205 --> 00:58:04,205
oriented development

2265
00:58:04,374 --> 00:58:05,242
so that we can

2266
00:58:05,242 --> 00:58:06,143
maintain a somewhat

2267
00:58:06,143 --> 00:58:07,243
compact urban form.

2268
00:58:07,243 --> 00:58:07,911
This is from a

2269
00:58:07,911 --> 00:58:09,450
transportation

2270
00:58:09,450 --> 00:58:09,613
perspective. Know,

2271
00:58:09,613 --> 00:58:11,147
best practices.

2272
00:58:11,147 --> 00:58:12,616
Because yu otherwise

2273
00:58:12,616 --> 00:58:13,717
will end up with a

2274
00:58:13,717 --> 00:58:15,185
place where people will

2275
00:58:15,185 --> 00:58:16,987
get into a car for

2276
00:58:16,987 --> 00:58:18,421
most of their trips.

2277
00:58:18,421 --> 00:58:19,289
And then we finally

2278
00:58:19,289 --> 00:58:20,590
also added a note of

2279
00:58:20,590 --> 00:58:20,958
caution from the

2280
00:58:20,958 --> 00:58:22,958
transportation

2281
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,560
perspective on if we

2282
00:58:25,962 --> 00:58:27,397
annex an end, go south

2283
00:58:27,397 --> 00:58:28,498
of south davis. You're

2284
00:58:28,498 --> 00:58:29,366
going to run into

2285
00:58:29,366 --> 00:58:30,299
issues and how we're

2286
00:58:30,299 --> 00:58:31,401
going to connect that

2287
00:58:31,401 --> 00:58:32,680
from the

2288
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:33,536
transportation

2289
00:58:33,536 --> 00:58:34,103
perspective to the

2290
00:58:34,103 --> 00:58:36,103
places where people

2291
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,410
go. Thank you so much

2292
00:58:38,410 --> 00:58:39,242
>> you. Are there any

2293
00:58:39,242 --> 00:58:41,242
further public

2294
00:58:43,246 --> 00:58:45,150
comments? Not seeing

2295
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:48,150
any. We can move into

2296
00:58:48,618 --> 00:58:50,618
discussion. All right.

2297
00:58:50,753 --> 00:58:52,556
So what we have here

2298
00:58:52,556 --> 00:58:54,230
is a map of some of the

2299
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:55,458
proposed annex areas

2300
00:58:55,458 --> 00:58:57,458
with the floodplain

2301
00:58:58,362 --> 00:59:00,762
and a nice lavender

2302
00:59:01,965 --> 00:59:03,965
shade. There. I

2303
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,500
wanted to invite our

2304
00:59:06,636 --> 00:59:08,636
community. Development

2305
00:59:09,205 --> 00:59:09,773
director to say a few

2306
00:59:09,773 --> 00:59:10,340
words, because she

2307
00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:11,674
wasn't here at our

2308
00:59:11,674 --> 00:59:13,109
last meeting, and

2309
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:13,710
she's gone on public

2310
00:59:13,710 --> 00:59:14,911
record speaking a lot

2311
00:59:14,911 --> 00:59:15,479
about the floodplain

2312
00:59:15,479 --> 00:59:16,713
issue. So I wondered

2313
00:59:16,713 --> 00:59:18,148
if you could guide us a

2314
00:59:18,148 --> 00:59:19,282
little bit. Tonight as

2315
00:59:19,282 --> 00:59:20,717
we're thinking aout

2316
00:59:20,717 --> 00:59:22,119
northeast, northwest

2317
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:22,718
and this massive

2318
00:59:22,718 --> 00:59:25,118
floodplain in which we

2319
00:59:28,591 --> 00:59:29,693
find ourselves.

2320
00:59:29,693 --> 00:59:31,693
>> sound like an

2321
00:59:34,697 --> 00:59:35,365
engineer. So..

2322
00:59:35,365 --> 00:59:37,934
>> as you can see from

2323
00:59:37,934 --> 00:59:39,436
this map. We have a

2324
00:59:39,436 --> 00:59:40,300
rather unique

2325
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:41,537
situation here in

2326
00:59:41,537 --> 00:59:43,306
davis. We almost sit

2327
00:59:43,306 --> 00:59:46,306
on an island if you

2328
00:59:49,112 --> 00:59:50,913
will. O area that is

2329
00:59:50,913 --> 00:59:52,716
within the floodplain.

2330
00:59:52,716 --> 00:59:53,316
Which is nice for

2331
00:59:53,316 --> 00:59:55,316
everybody who lives

2332
00:59:55,618 --> 00:59:56,219
here and hs to pay for

2333
00:59:56,219 --> 00:59:57,753
insurance and things of

2334
00:59:57,753 --> 00:59:58,854
that nature. But it

2335
00:59:58,854 --> 01:00:00,290
does make it rather

2336
01:00:00,290 --> 01:00:01,158
difficult for those of

2337
01:00:01,158 --> 01:00:02,826
us who are trying to

2338
01:00:02,826 --> 01:00:03,426
plan for the future of

2339
01:00:03,426 --> 01:00:04,594
davis and trying to

2340
01:00:04,594 --> 01:00:06,994
figure out where we

2341
01:00:07,797 --> 01:00:09,966
could do that where I

2342
01:00:09,966 --> 01:00:11,401
think that the city

2343
01:00:11,401 --> 01:00:12,502
has missed an

2344
01:00:12,502 --> 01:00:14,502
opportunity in the

2345
01:00:15,739 --> 01:00:17,907
past. Is because we

2346
01:00:17,907 --> 01:00:19,709
have set up our land

2347
01:00:19,709 --> 01:00:20,810
use situation where we

2348
01:00:20,810 --> 01:00:22,245
evaluate every

2349
01:00:22,245 --> 01:00:24,645
project. Singly, one at

2350
01:00:25,482 --> 01:00:27,283
a tme is no

2351
01:00:27,283 --> 01:00:29,283
opportunity to put

2352
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,220
together a plan for a

2353
01:00:33,220 --> 01:00:34,123
master planned

2354
01:00:34,123 --> 01:00:35,558
infrastructure system,

2355
01:00:35,558 --> 01:00:36,993
which includes

2356
01:00:36,993 --> 01:00:38,428
drainage and detention

2357
01:00:38,428 --> 01:00:40,597
basins. And things of

2358
01:00:40,597 --> 01:00:42,365
that nature. And so

2359
01:00:42,365 --> 01:00:44,765
what I would foresee

2360
01:00:45,635 --> 01:00:47,103
in the northwest area

2361
01:00:47,103 --> 01:00:49,638
and the northeast to a

2362
01:00:49,638 --> 01:00:50,106
large part as well,,

2363
01:00:50,106 --> 01:00:50,606
although that one is

2364
01:00:50,606 --> 01:00:52,108
much smaller because

2365
01:00:52,108 --> 01:00:52,675
most of that is

2366
01:00:52,675 --> 01:00:53,910
included in an open

2367
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:54,477
space. And

2368
01:00:54,477 --> 01:00:55,712
conservation easement.

2369
01:00:55,712 --> 01:00:58,112
And so probably would

2370
01:00:58,615 --> 01:01:00,750
never be anyway. But

2371
01:01:00,750 --> 01:01:01,317
anyway, I think one of

2372
01:01:01,317 --> 01:01:02,185
the first steps that

2373
01:01:02,185 --> 01:01:03,653
the city would have to

2374
01:01:03,653 --> 01:01:05,421
do if they decide that

2375
01:01:05,421 --> 01:01:06,856
they would like to

2376
01:01:06,856 --> 01:01:07,990
move ahead with

2377
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:08,825
development in the

2378
01:01:08,825 --> 01:01:10,825
northwest area of

2379
01:01:12,261 --> 01:01:13,960
town. Would be to have

2380
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,798
some civil engineers

2381
01:01:14,798 --> 01:01:17,198
put together a master

2382
01:01:17,266 --> 01:01:18,735
plan for how that area

2383
01:01:18,735 --> 01:01:20,735
could be protected

2384
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:22,772
from the floodplain.

2385
01:01:22,772 --> 01:01:24,540
And there's anything

2386
01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:25,541
that I have learned

2387
01:01:25,541 --> 01:01:27,541
anything can be

2388
01:01:28,111 --> 01:01:29,912
engineered in the

2389
01:01:29,912 --> 01:01:31,714
past. You know, we've

2390
01:01:31,714 --> 01:01:33,182
done projects that were

2391
01:01:33,182 --> 01:01:34,283
in the floodplain in

2392
01:01:34,283 --> 01:01:35,150
fact, this map isn't

2393
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:36,419
even totally up to

2394
01:01:36,419 --> 01:01:37,286
date because the

2395
01:01:37,286 --> 01:01:39,286
bretton woods project

2396
01:01:39,656 --> 01:01:42,656
is no longer in the

2397
01:01:42,859 --> 01:01:44,360
floodplain. The fema

2398
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,760
folks have not amended

2399
01:01:47,230 --> 01:01:49,230
their map since 2010.

2400
01:01:49,365 --> 01:01:50,800
There are amendments.

2401
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,267
you can find them

2402
01:01:52,267 --> 01:01:52,836
online at the fema

2403
01:01:52,836 --> 01:01:54,700
website that will show

2404
01:01:54,700 --> 01:01:55,839
you where things have

2405
01:01:55,839 --> 01:01:56,872
been taken out of the

2406
01:01:56,872 --> 01:01:58,741
floodplain and show

2407
01:01:58,741 --> 01:01:59,609
what the resulting

2408
01:01:59,609 --> 01:02:01,210
floodplain looks like.

2409
01:02:01,210 --> 01:02:03,460
But this isn't an

2410
01:02:03,460 --> 01:02:03,813
exact reference

2411
01:02:03,813 --> 01:02:05,813
representation of

2412
01:02:06,615 --> 01:02:07,182
that. But as was said

2413
01:02:07,182 --> 01:02:09,518
earlier, what it took

2414
01:02:09,518 --> 01:02:12,422
to get that to happen

2415
01:02:12,422 --> 01:02:13,823
was a very lrge and

2416
01:02:13,823 --> 01:02:15,658
deep hole in the

2417
01:02:15,658 --> 01:02:17,794
ground. What I think

2418
01:02:17,794 --> 01:02:20,194
could happen is more

2419
01:02:20,997 --> 01:02:22,130
like a series of holes

2420
01:02:22,130 --> 01:02:23,131
in the ground, which

2421
01:02:23,131 --> 01:02:25,340
are essentially

2422
01:02:25,340 --> 01:02:26,402
detention basins. And

2423
01:02:26,402 --> 01:02:27,503
that they would be

2424
01:02:27,503 --> 01:02:29,503
connected by what

2425
01:02:31,874 --> 01:02:32,876
could become..

2426
01:02:32,876 --> 01:02:34,677
Essentially a channel

2427
01:02:34,677 --> 01:02:36,144
or a swale. That could

2428
01:02:36,144 --> 01:02:37,913
be vegetated on the up

2429
01:02:37,913 --> 01:02:39,480
on the banks of it.

2430
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,816
And actually could

2431
01:02:40,816 --> 01:02:42,816
even become something

2432
01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:44,253
like a trail system.

2433
01:02:44,253 --> 01:02:45,521
Throughout the city as

2434
01:02:45,521 --> 01:02:47,323
opposed to just a

2435
01:02:47,323 --> 01:02:47,957
public work where, you

2436
01:02:47,957 --> 01:02:50,357
know, it's just there

2437
01:02:50,893 --> 01:02:52,362
for flood control I

2438
01:02:52,362 --> 01:02:55,231
don't have my hands on.

2439
01:02:55,231 --> 01:02:56,732
Yet is information

2440
01:02:56,732 --> 01:02:58,732
about what this

2441
01:02:59,168 --> 01:03:01,168
floodplain actually is

2442
01:03:01,737 --> 01:03:03,172
and how deep it is bad

2443
01:03:03,172 --> 01:03:04,641
is it that I don't

2444
01:03:04,641 --> 01:03:06,775
have yet. Although we

2445
01:03:06,775 --> 01:03:07,410
think we're on to

2446
01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:08,578
source where we might

2447
01:03:08,578 --> 01:03:09,645
be able to get a lot

2448
01:03:09,645 --> 01:03:10,246
more of that

2449
01:03:10,246 --> 01:03:11,447
information. And then

2450
01:03:11,447 --> 01:03:12,481
once we get that, i

2451
01:03:12,481 --> 01:03:13,490
can meet with the

2452
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:14,283
engineers and we can

2453
01:03:14,283 --> 01:03:16,852
talk more about how we

2454
01:03:16,852 --> 01:03:18,852
might go about

2455
01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:23,190
creating a.. String

2456
01:03:25,930 --> 01:03:25,728
of a charm bracelet.

2457
01:03:25,728 --> 01:03:26,929
Where basically you

2458
01:03:26,929 --> 01:03:27,763
have your channels and

2459
01:03:27,763 --> 01:03:29,640
then you might have a

2460
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,500
pond and then the

2461
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:31,934
channel and a pond and

2462
01:03:31,934 --> 01:03:32,501
it would go along

2463
01:03:32,501 --> 01:03:34,169
throughout the city

2464
01:03:34,169 --> 01:03:34,770
and instead of just

2465
01:03:34,770 --> 01:03:35,938
assuming that it's a

2466
01:03:35,938 --> 01:03:37,739
public work, like I

2467
01:03:37,739 --> 01:03:38,373
said, I think there are

2468
01:03:38,373 --> 01:03:40,209
opportunities in there

2469
01:03:40,209 --> 01:03:41,678
for us to use some of

2470
01:03:41,678 --> 01:03:43,446
that detention basin

2471
01:03:43,446 --> 01:03:44,913
land something more

2472
01:03:44,913 --> 01:03:47,913
than just a big hole

2473
01:03:48,183 --> 01:03:49,510
in the ground to me.

2474
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:49,318
Hollow is the best

2475
01:03:49,318 --> 01:03:50,853
example

2476
01:03:50,853 --> 01:03:52,322
>> all that we have of

2477
01:03:52,322 --> 01:03:54,123
a combined use, we have

2478
01:03:54,123 --> 01:03:55,224
dog park and we have

2479
01:03:55,224 --> 01:03:56,258
detention basin in the

2480
01:03:56,258 --> 01:03:57,360
same place.

2481
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:57,960
>> now there are

2482
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,263
limitations to what you

2483
01:04:00,263 --> 01:04:00,830
can do. And there are

2484
01:04:00,830 --> 01:04:03,650
things that you have

2485
01:04:03,650 --> 01:04:04,967
to be wary of because

2486
01:04:04,967 --> 01:04:06,200
it will flood. So you

2487
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:06,569
don't want to build

2488
01:04:06,569 --> 01:04:08,570
anything down in there.

2489
01:04:08,570 --> 01:04:09,170
That's going to be a

2490
01:04:09,170 --> 01:04:10,706
but maybe you could

2491
01:04:10,706 --> 01:04:13,106
have soccer fields I

2492
01:04:14,610 --> 01:04:16,450
it. Maybe you could do

2493
01:04:16,450 --> 01:04:17,513
habitat for some kind

2494
01:04:17,513 --> 01:04:18,613
that is okay with

2495
01:04:18,613 --> 01:04:20,383
flooding once in a

2496
01:04:20,383 --> 01:04:21,517
while. Those are the

2497
01:04:21,517 --> 01:04:22,151
ideas that I have. The

2498
01:04:22,151 --> 01:04:23,619
other thing I have

2499
01:04:23,619 --> 01:04:25,421
found out about this

2500
01:04:25,421 --> 01:04:26,889
map. Is its not

2501
01:04:26,889 --> 01:04:28,691
engineered it's

2502
01:04:28,691 --> 01:04:30,459
modeled so this is

2503
01:04:30,459 --> 01:04:32,261
fema's best guess as

2504
01:04:32,261 --> 01:04:32,828
to what is in the

2505
01:04:32,828 --> 01:04:34,300
floodplain and what

2506
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:35,864
isn't in the

2507
01:04:35,864 --> 01:04:37,633
floodplain. Until the

2508
01:04:37,633 --> 01:04:39,633
land is actually

2509
01:04:39,869 --> 01:04:42,269
engineered you can't go

2510
01:04:43,105 --> 01:04:43,973
buy this 100%. And

2511
01:04:43,973 --> 01:04:45,241
thats what fema

2512
01:04:45,241 --> 01:04:47,420
requires you t do in

2513
01:04:47,420 --> 01:04:48,478
order to say well, I'm

2514
01:04:48,478 --> 01:04:49,578
in or I'm not in.

2515
01:04:49,578 --> 01:04:50,179
That's what they

2516
01:04:50,179 --> 01:04:52,810
require. Is

2517
01:04:52,810 --> 01:04:52,948
engineering. Is that

2518
01:04:52,948 --> 01:04:53,883
what you were looking

2519
01:04:53,883 --> 01:04:54,517
for

2520
01:04:54,517 --> 01:04:56,850
>> it is. Do you know

2521
01:04:56,850 --> 01:04:57,887
when we might have a

2522
01:04:57,887 --> 01:04:59,288
map like that?

2523
01:04:59,288 --> 01:05:00,689
>> we have no plans

2524
01:05:00,689 --> 01:05:01,289
and no funding to do

2525
01:05:01,289 --> 01:05:02,892
anything like that. So

2526
01:05:02,892 --> 01:05:03,492
we are looking around,

2527
01:05:03,492 --> 01:05:05,361
trying to figure out

2528
01:05:05,361 --> 01:05:05,961
the best source of

2529
01:05:05,961 --> 01:05:08,263
information that we can

2530
01:05:08,263 --> 01:05:09,365
get we're trying to

2531
01:05:09,365 --> 01:05:10,800
work with the county

2532
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,100
to see what they might

2533
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:13,469
have know, the

2534
01:05:13,469 --> 01:05:14,770
farmers, truthfully,

2535
01:05:14,770 --> 01:05:15,471
the farmers aren't

2536
01:05:15,471 --> 01:05:16,539
incentivized to figure

2537
01:05:16,539 --> 01:05:17,139
it out. That really

2538
01:05:17,139 --> 01:05:19,139
doesn't matter to

2539
01:05:19,441 --> 01:05:20,309
them. They're just

2540
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:22,678
going to keep farming

2541
01:05:22,678 --> 01:05:25,678
and they have to deal

2542
01:05:28,450 --> 01:05:29,510
with it.

2543
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:31,451
>> all right. Would we

2544
01:05:31,687 --> 01:05:33,122
like to start

2545
01:05:33,122 --> 01:05:34,890
discussion on this

2546
01:05:34,890 --> 01:05:35,491
last piece of our

2547
01:05:35,491 --> 01:05:37,920
recommendations and see

2548
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,492
if there's any further

2549
01:05:39,595 --> 01:05:41,595
recommendations to add

2550
01:05:44,667 --> 01:05:46,667
?? Commissioner.

2551
01:05:47,502 --> 01:05:48,638
>> now. But I talking

2552
01:05:48,638 --> 01:05:49,504
about revisiting ones

2553
01:05:49,504 --> 01:05:51,504
that we've already

2554
01:05:51,773 --> 01:05:52,908
made correct.

2555
01:05:52,908 --> 01:05:54,908
>> correct.

2556
01:05:55,811 --> 01:05:56,411
>> okay.

2557
01:05:56,411 --> 01:05:58,411
>> there's another

2558
01:05:59,715 --> 01:06:02,115
good map that depicts

2559
01:06:02,618 --> 01:06:04,860
the the theme of 100

2560
01:06:04,860 --> 01:06:06,486
year plan that was

2561
01:06:07,323 --> 01:06:08,791
part of the JUNE 24th

2562
01:06:08,791 --> 01:06:11,191
staff report. That we

2563
01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:11,694
had I think it was

2564
01:06:11,694 --> 01:06:13,620
about the seventh

2565
01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:14,163
slide. It's an aerial

2566
01:06:14,163 --> 01:06:16,563
photograph and so it

2567
01:06:16,698 --> 01:06:19,201
doesn't have on it the

2568
01:06:19,201 --> 01:06:19,835
the general plan.

2569
01:06:19,835 --> 01:06:21,370
Elements. It's just

2570
01:06:21,370 --> 01:06:22,438
like the current, you

2571
01:06:22,438 --> 01:06:24,838
know, city and it

2572
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:25,841
really does show the

2573
01:06:25,841 --> 01:06:28,241
floodplain is is being

2574
01:06:31,814 --> 01:06:32,848
pretty extensive.. I

2575
01:06:32,848 --> 01:06:35,248
think the hesitancy I

2576
01:06:35,417 --> 01:06:36,885
have in, in know,

2577
01:06:36,885 --> 01:06:38,885
making recommendation

2578
01:06:39,755 --> 01:06:41,557
to consider expanding

2579
01:06:41,557 --> 01:06:43,557
to the northeastern

2580
01:06:45,127 --> 01:06:46,929
northwest is, is that

2581
01:06:46,929 --> 01:06:47,496
I think such a

2582
01:06:47,496 --> 01:06:49,640
recommendation neds to

2583
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,866
have contingency in it

2584
01:06:50,866 --> 01:06:52,635
that, you know that

2585
01:06:52,635 --> 01:06:55,350
there is in place.

2586
01:06:56,639 --> 01:06:59,541
Some type of you know

2587
01:06:59,541 --> 01:07:00,576
plan for dealing with

2588
01:07:00,576 --> 01:07:01,143
the stormwater

2589
01:07:01,143 --> 01:07:03,143
management and

2590
01:07:04,947 --> 01:07:06,947
flooding. It's either

2591
01:07:07,820 --> 01:07:07,549
part of an individual

2592
01:07:07,549 --> 01:07:08,850
development or that's

2593
01:07:08,850 --> 01:07:10,653
part of an overall

2594
01:07:10,653 --> 01:07:11,753
comprehensive plan for

2595
01:07:11,753 --> 01:07:13,222
the whole to the whole

2596
01:07:13,222 --> 01:07:13,789
city, because I think

2597
01:07:13,789 --> 01:07:14,656
that's one of our

2598
01:07:14,656 --> 01:07:16,910
probably our single

2599
01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:17,560
biggest constraint.

2600
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Now on expanding

2601
01:07:20,796 --> 01:07:21,430
outward is those

2602
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:23,430
designations. But but

2603
01:07:23,632 --> 01:07:24,265
as you say there were

2604
01:07:24,265 --> 01:07:25,401
done in 2010. We don't

2605
01:07:25,401 --> 01:07:27,401
know accurate. They

2606
01:07:28,637 --> 01:07:29,238
are so I think that's

2607
01:07:29,238 --> 01:07:30,439
that's where I am right

2608
01:07:30,439 --> 01:07:32,641
now is is I could I

2609
01:07:32,641 --> 01:07:34,109
could support

2610
01:07:34,109 --> 01:07:34,977
recommendations to, to

2611
01:07:34,977 --> 01:07:36,611
show where we'd like to

2612
01:07:36,611 --> 01:07:38,800
go, what we'd like to

2613
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,481
build through the year

2614
01:07:39,481 --> 01:07:41,283
2050. Contingent upon

2615
01:07:41,283 --> 01:07:41,983
there being adequate

2616
01:07:41,983 --> 01:07:43,983
stormwater management

2617
01:07:48,123 --> 01:07:48,523
and flood control..

2618
01:07:48,523 --> 01:07:50,523
>> commissioner

2619
01:07:50,692 --> 01:07:51,260
valencia. I'm just

2620
01:07:51,260 --> 01:07:52,461
going to it's more of a

2621
01:07:52,461 --> 01:07:54,930
question to put on the

2622
01:07:54,930 --> 01:07:56,732
record. I guess heard

2623
01:07:56,732 --> 01:07:57,332
you know, news. I was

2624
01:07:57,332 --> 01:07:59,332
just actually trying &

2625
01:07:59,968 --> 01:08:01,769
to do a quick look up

2626
01:08:01,769 --> 01:08:03,639
that there is

2627
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:05,639
consideration. By the

2628
01:08:05,807 --> 01:08:07,576
flood agencies to

2629
01:08:07,576 --> 01:08:08,676
increase the flooding

2630
01:08:08,676 --> 01:08:10,450
area of the causeway.

2631
01:08:10,450 --> 01:08:12,445
And that might include

2632
01:08:12,948 --> 01:08:13,782
more. Land in county.

2633
01:08:13,782 --> 01:08:15,851
And I don't know if

2634
01:08:15,851 --> 01:08:17,851
that means the

2635
01:08:18,387 --> 01:08:19,254
northeast. You know so

2636
01:08:19,254 --> 01:08:20,522
I don't have anything

2637
01:08:20,522 --> 01:08:21,990
more than that to add

2638
01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:22,991
right now. I didn't

2639
01:08:22,991 --> 01:08:24,125
come prepared. You

2640
01:08:24,125 --> 01:08:25,927
know, with the details

2641
01:08:25,927 --> 01:08:26,996
on it, but I know I

2642
01:08:26,996 --> 01:08:28,831
heard it. It's in

2643
01:08:28,831 --> 01:08:31,231
response to the super

2644
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:33,680
el nino in preparation

2645
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,338
for that is what I had

2646
01:08:36,338 --> 01:08:37,720
understood. You

2647
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,720
commissioner

2648
01:08:39,575 --> 01:08:41,575
mclaughlin. I'll just

2649
01:08:41,777 --> 01:08:43,879
I'll note that last

2650
01:08:43,879 --> 01:08:45,347
time we did talk about

2651
01:08:45,347 --> 01:08:46,481
annexing the northwest

2652
01:08:46,481 --> 01:08:47,516
and that

2653
01:08:47,516 --> 01:08:49,516
recommendation passed

2654
01:08:50,751 --> 01:08:51,853
without me. And now

2655
01:08:51,853 --> 01:08:53,853
we're talking about

2656
01:08:54,356 --> 01:08:55,758
the the northeast. So

2657
01:08:55,758 --> 01:08:56,558
also note that even

2658
01:08:56,558 --> 01:08:58,558
though this floodplain

2659
01:08:59,361 --> 01:09:00,620
map is from 2010, you

2660
01:09:00,620 --> 01:09:01,229
know, what? It doesn't

2661
01:09:01,229 --> 01:09:02,970
show up in these

2662
01:09:02,970 --> 01:09:04,497
repeated maps of our

2663
01:09:04,832 --> 01:09:05,434
floodplain is the area

2664
01:09:05,434 --> 01:09:07,302
south of the city. So

2665
01:09:07,302 --> 01:09:09,702
that really seems like

2666
01:09:10,539 --> 01:09:11,640
a great place to focus

2667
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:12,507
so I guess what I what

2668
01:09:12,507 --> 01:09:13,809
I'm hearing from my

2669
01:09:13,809 --> 01:09:15,243
fellow commissioners

2670
01:09:15,243 --> 01:09:16,778
is some hesitancy to

2671
01:09:16,778 --> 01:09:17,813
make any

2672
01:09:17,813 --> 01:09:19,581
recommendations in the

2673
01:09:19,581 --> 01:09:21,581
northeast. And would

2674
01:09:23,851 --> 01:09:26,251
table that long term

2675
01:09:26,755 --> 01:09:27,856
.. Or anyone can make a

2676
01:09:27,856 --> 01:09:28,890
motion to move it

2677
01:09:28,890 --> 01:09:29,457
forward. One of the

2678
01:09:29,457 --> 01:09:31,457
motions again, that

2679
01:09:32,127 --> 01:09:33,261
didn't pass that I

2680
01:09:33,261 --> 01:09:35,363
proposed last time was

2681
01:09:35,363 --> 01:09:36,465
saying, how about we

2682
01:09:36,465 --> 01:09:37,599
just say we won't

2683
01:09:37,599 --> 01:09:39,599
develop in a

2684
01:09:40,402 --> 01:09:41,503
floodplain? But we do

2685
01:09:41,503 --> 01:09:43,305
you know, we can't. We

2686
01:09:43,305 --> 01:09:44,439
could expand in a

2687
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,700
contiguous fashion

2688
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:45,841
from davis, not

2689
01:09:45,841 --> 01:09:47,309
leapfrog development,

2690
01:09:47,309 --> 01:09:48,343
but contiguous

2691
01:09:48,343 --> 01:09:49,478
development. Where

2692
01:09:49,478 --> 01:09:50,450
we're not in the

2693
01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:52,450
floodplain, which would

2694
01:09:52,681 --> 01:09:53,281
get at these these of

2695
01:09:53,281 --> 01:09:54,149
being in the

2696
01:09:54,149 --> 01:09:55,150
northeast, but not

2697
01:09:55,150 --> 01:09:57,150
being within the

2698
01:09:57,385 --> 01:09:59,385
floodplain or the

2699
01:09:59,555 --> 01:10:00,422
village area, but, but

2700
01:10:00,422 --> 01:10:01,656
below the channel and

2701
01:10:01,656 --> 01:10:02,223
in a and a little bit

2702
01:10:02,223 --> 01:10:03,910
more below the

2703
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:03,959
channel, because there

2704
01:10:03,959 --> 01:10:05,994
is there are areas that

2705
01:10:05,994 --> 01:10:07,128
are that are also

2706
01:10:07,128 --> 01:10:09,128
within the floodplain

2707
01:10:12,167 --> 01:10:12,733
below the channel..

2708
01:10:12,733 --> 01:10:14,733
>> think the hesitancy

2709
01:10:14,936 --> 01:10:17,539
I have in, in flat out

2710
01:10:17,539 --> 01:10:19,939
saying won't come up

2711
01:10:20,408 --> 01:10:21,443
with a new land use

2712
01:10:21,443 --> 01:10:23,843
plan for the year 2050.

2713
01:10:24,346 --> 01:10:27,346
If it's in a currently

2714
01:10:27,615 --> 01:10:28,183
area, is that this is a

2715
01:10:28,183 --> 01:10:30,152
plan for 2050. And we

2716
01:10:30,152 --> 01:10:30,986
just don't know. What

2717
01:10:30,986 --> 01:10:32,620
might happen along the

2718
01:10:32,620 --> 01:10:34,756
lines of what sherry's

2719
01:10:34,756 --> 01:10:36,224
discussing you know

2720
01:10:36,224 --> 01:10:36,691
flood control and

2721
01:10:36,691 --> 01:10:37,659
stormwater management

2722
01:10:37,659 --> 01:10:39,461
plans. We don't know

2723
01:10:39,461 --> 01:10:40,896
what engineering

2724
01:10:40,896 --> 01:10:43,296
solutions evolve in the

2725
01:10:44,132 --> 01:10:45,233
next 24 years. I think

2726
01:10:45,233 --> 01:10:47,680
that's a hesitancy I

2727
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,203
have in my a motion

2728
01:10:49,203 --> 01:10:50,639
that this is uniformly

2729
01:10:50,639 --> 01:10:52,107
says, no, we won't go.

2730
01:10:52,107 --> 01:10:53,208
You know, where it's

2731
01:10:53,208 --> 01:10:54,209
mapped because it

2732
01:10:54,209 --> 01:10:56,110
could be shortchanging

2733
01:10:56,110 --> 01:10:57,479
ourselves from some

2734
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:58,460
creativity in how we

2735
01:10:58,460 --> 01:11:00,460
approach these issues

2736
01:11:05,387 --> 01:11:05,954
in the future..

2737
01:11:05,954 --> 01:11:07,188
>> we can't go back

2738
01:11:07,188 --> 01:11:09,324
and visit the notion

2739
01:11:09,324 --> 01:11:11,560
of building the above

2740
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,560
a that's from

2741
01:11:14,290 --> 01:11:14,596
animation. Chapman

2742
01:11:14,596 --> 01:11:15,497
correct? I'm not

2743
01:11:15,497 --> 01:11:16,364
trying to advocate for

2744
01:11:16,364 --> 01:11:17,265
that. I'm just looking

2745
01:11:17,265 --> 01:11:18,366
at the same thing that

2746
01:11:18,366 --> 01:11:20,766
I'm sure every person

2747
01:11:20,835 --> 01:11:22,303
in this room has seen

2748
01:11:22,303 --> 01:11:22,937
the governor's

2749
01:11:22,937 --> 01:11:24,720
statement about. And I

2750
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:25,206
tried to make that

2751
01:11:25,206 --> 01:11:26,641
point at the last

2752
01:11:26,641 --> 01:11:28,777
meeting. But we are in

2753
01:11:28,777 --> 01:11:30,210
for a whopper. The

2754
01:11:30,210 --> 01:11:32,130
data keeps getting

2755
01:11:32,130 --> 01:11:33,515
worse and worse about

2756
01:11:33,515 --> 01:11:34,582
what we can expect in

2757
01:11:34,582 --> 01:11:36,350
california.

2758
01:11:36,350 --> 01:11:38,350
Specifically around el

2759
01:11:39,955 --> 01:11:41,756
nino.. Moved from all

2760
01:11:41,756 --> 01:11:43,191
this among the top

2761
01:11:43,191 --> 01:11:46,191
three to. It will be

2762
01:11:46,428 --> 01:11:47,529
above. Worst of worst

2763
01:11:47,529 --> 01:11:48,930
if we're not

2764
01:11:48,930 --> 01:11:51,330
considering that as we

2765
01:11:51,466 --> 01:11:53,268
move forward we go and

2766
01:11:53,268 --> 01:11:55,268
pass something without

2767
01:11:56,171 --> 01:11:56,738
any vision of what a

2768
01:11:56,738 --> 01:11:57,939
potential storm of

2769
01:11:57,939 --> 01:11:59,407
that nature could

2770
01:11:59,407 --> 01:12:00,275
cause for us. And I

2771
01:12:00,275 --> 01:12:01,209
know people have been

2772
01:12:01,209 --> 01:12:03,609
tracking like, how do

2773
01:12:03,678 --> 01:12:06,780
you go from a

2774
01:12:06,213 --> 01:12:06,848
basically a windstorm

2775
01:12:06,848 --> 01:12:09,483
of 50 miles an hour to

2776
01:12:09,483 --> 01:12:11,286
a cat five hurricane

2777
01:12:11,286 --> 01:12:12,720
in 24 hours. You've

2778
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,120
seen that happen just

2779
01:12:16,291 --> 01:12:18,930
the other day. So I, I

2780
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:19,561
just caution us to be

2781
01:12:19,561 --> 01:12:20,662
very, very careful

2782
01:12:20,662 --> 01:12:22,130
about the choices we

2783
01:12:22,130 --> 01:12:23,130
make about expanding

2784
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:25,130
into anything that

2785
01:12:25,366 --> 01:12:25,967
looks like a at this

2786
01:12:25,967 --> 01:12:27,135
particular point in

2787
01:12:27,135 --> 01:12:28,570
time. And I don't know

2788
01:12:28,570 --> 01:12:29,703
if there's ways to

2789
01:12:29,703 --> 01:12:31,406
check in on things as

2790
01:12:31,406 --> 01:12:33,174
we move forward or we

2791
01:12:33,174 --> 01:12:35,574
points built into the

2792
01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:36,878
general plan should

2793
01:12:36,878 --> 01:12:37,878
catastrophically

2794
01:12:37,878 --> 01:12:39,878
catastrophic events

2795
01:12:40,114 --> 01:12:40,681
occur we have that

2796
01:12:40,681 --> 01:12:41,249
built into our general

2797
01:12:41,249 --> 01:12:42,617
plan where we can

2798
01:12:42,617 --> 01:12:44,419
revisit, I mean, what

2799
01:12:44,419 --> 01:12:45,320
do we have to signal?

2800
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,187
50? That's it. We made

2801
01:12:46,187 --> 01:12:47,655
that decision. That's

2802
01:12:47,655 --> 01:12:49,570
the best we can do. I

2803
01:12:49,570 --> 01:12:50,191
have another just quick

2804
01:12:50,191 --> 01:12:52,327
comment. The map that

2805
01:12:52,327 --> 01:12:52,760
you have here, greg,

2806
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,896
and the one that we

2807
01:12:54,896 --> 01:12:55,797
have here. I know gis

2808
01:12:55,797 --> 01:12:58,320
I'm not offering to do

2809
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:58,600
it. Taking those two

2810
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,467
maps and combining

2811
01:12:59,467 --> 01:13:00,935
them should take no

2812
01:13:00,935 --> 01:13:01,502
more than an hour with

2813
01:13:01,502 --> 01:13:03,502
somebody who knows

2814
01:13:03,504 --> 01:13:04,539
what they're doing.

2815
01:13:04,539 --> 01:13:05,973
With these two maps.

2816
01:13:05,973 --> 01:13:07,750
That he's looking at

2817
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:07,775
this is an updated

2818
01:13:07,775 --> 01:13:08,443
version of the fema

2819
01:13:08,443 --> 01:13:10,311
one. Is that what that

2820
01:13:10,311 --> 01:13:10,912
is?

2821
01:13:10,912 --> 01:13:12,480
>> yeah, it was

2822
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:13,470
included in the JUNE

2823
01:13:13,470 --> 01:13:14,649
24th staff report. We

2824
01:13:14,649 --> 01:13:16,649
had. Gneral plan

2825
01:13:17,919 --> 01:13:19,919
update. Its seventh

2826
01:13:20,755 --> 01:13:21,856
slide in that package.

2827
01:13:21,856 --> 01:13:23,291
And it's an aerial. So

2828
01:13:23,291 --> 01:13:25,426
it it know, shows the

2829
01:13:25,426 --> 01:13:27,826
current city and then

2830
01:13:27,962 --> 01:13:31,562
in in sort of a medium

2831
01:13:32,267 --> 01:13:33,701
blue color. Outlines

2832
01:13:33,701 --> 01:13:34,802
100 year floodplain.

2833
01:13:34,802 --> 01:13:35,437
Which it's interesting

2834
01:13:35,437 --> 01:13:36,604
that it notes that the

2835
01:13:36,604 --> 01:13:38,406
bottom of the of the

2836
01:13:38,406 --> 01:13:39,507
page. 100 year

2837
01:13:39,507 --> 01:13:40,174
floodplain, of course,

2838
01:13:40,174 --> 01:13:42,174
means 1% chance of

2839
01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:43,678
flooding each year.

2840
01:13:43,678 --> 01:13:44,545
26% chance of major

2841
01:13:44,545 --> 01:13:46,314
flooding over the

2842
01:13:46,314 --> 01:13:48,714
period of a typical 30

2843
01:13:48,850 --> 01:13:49,717
year mortgage

2844
01:13:49,717 --> 01:13:52,117
>> down there where we

2845
01:13:52,820 --> 01:13:54,820
got that map.

2846
01:13:54,923 --> 01:13:56,391
>> in the consultants.

2847
01:13:56,391 --> 01:13:56,991
It's in

2848
01:13:56,991 --> 01:13:58,526
>> I'm assuming they

2849
01:13:58,526 --> 01:13:58,793
got it from fema.

2850
01:13:58,793 --> 01:13:59,994
>> yeah.

2851
01:13:59,994 --> 01:14:00,828
>> so it's the same.

2852
01:14:00,828 --> 01:14:03,228
>> yeah. The title of

2853
01:14:03,231 --> 01:14:04,665
the of the exhibit is

2854
01:14:04,665 --> 01:14:06,133
federal emergency

2855
01:14:06,133 --> 01:14:07,568
management agency. And

2856
01:14:07,568 --> 01:14:08,436
davis floodplain.

2857
01:14:08,436 --> 01:14:09,370
>> yeah. It's the

2858
01:14:09,370 --> 01:14:11,172
same.

2859
01:14:11,172 --> 01:14:11,739
>> yeah.

2860
01:14:11,739 --> 01:14:14,139
>> it's just the way

2861
01:14:15,877 --> 01:14:16,443
it's depicted

2862
01:14:16,443 --> 01:14:17,645
>> more clear to see

2863
01:14:17,645 --> 01:14:18,246
on this. This exhibit

2864
01:14:18,246 --> 01:14:19,780
because it doesn't have

2865
01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:20,415
all the multitude of

2866
01:14:20,415 --> 01:14:22,815
colors that appear in

2867
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:24,485
the the draft general

2868
01:14:24,485 --> 01:14:26,485
plan map.

2869
01:14:27,540 --> 01:14:29,540
>> MADAM. My yes,

2870
01:14:29,157 --> 01:14:30,959
absolutely. Please

2871
01:14:30,959 --> 01:14:33,959
know that it's it's a

2872
01:14:34,896 --> 01:14:36,663
very unsettling. Idea

2873
01:14:36,663 --> 01:14:37,799
to move ahead with the

2874
01:14:37,799 --> 01:14:39,233
idea of moving ahead

2875
01:14:39,233 --> 01:14:41,369
with land uses that are

2876
01:14:41,369 --> 01:14:43,171
in the floodplain. But

2877
01:14:43,171 --> 01:14:44,605
I want you to think

2878
01:14:44,605 --> 01:14:47,500
about one thing. We're

2879
01:14:48,609 --> 01:14:51,900
only picking here you

2880
01:14:52,213 --> 01:14:52,813
still have eight

2881
01:14:52,813 --> 01:14:54,682
elements to get

2882
01:14:54,682 --> 01:14:57,820
through of the general

2883
01:14:57,585 --> 01:14:59,190
plan itself. That all

2884
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:00,854
deal with various kinds

2885
01:15:00,854 --> 01:15:03,254
of issues that would

2886
01:15:03,724 --> 01:15:05,724
affect these landraces

2887
01:15:05,860 --> 01:15:08,762
it's far a as I can

2888
01:15:08,762 --> 01:15:10,565
see have many, many

2889
01:15:10,565 --> 01:15:12,330
opportunities still be

2890
01:15:12,330 --> 01:15:12,900
able to come back to

2891
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:14,135
your land use plan and

2892
01:15:14,135 --> 01:15:15,937
say, hey, you know

2893
01:15:15,937 --> 01:15:16,503
what this year isn't

2894
01:15:16,503 --> 01:15:18,505
going to look like.

2895
01:15:18,505 --> 01:15:20,975
It's when we do the

2896
01:15:20,975 --> 01:15:22,760
hazards section or the

2897
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:22,711
safety section, which

2898
01:15:22,711 --> 01:15:23,510
is where we're more

2899
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:24,645
than likely going to

2900
01:15:24,645 --> 01:15:25,246
get into these

2901
01:15:25,246 --> 01:15:26,781
floodplain issues. And

2902
01:15:26,781 --> 01:15:27,348
a whole lot more

2903
01:15:27,348 --> 01:15:28,916
detail than we are

2904
01:15:28,916 --> 01:15:30,351
right now. You MAY

2905
01:15:30,351 --> 01:15:31,520
have to say, hey, you

2906
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,153
know what? I think we

2907
01:15:32,153 --> 01:15:33,587
MAY have to dial back

2908
01:15:33,587 --> 01:15:35,220
our or figure out

2909
01:15:35,220 --> 01:15:36,123
another way in fact, I

2910
01:15:36,123 --> 01:15:38,123
had a conversation

2911
01:15:38,292 --> 01:15:40,940
with our consultant.

2912
01:15:40,940 --> 01:15:42,940
Just day before

2913
01:15:43,331 --> 01:15:45,990
yesterday. And I said

2914
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:46,567
know isn't going to be

2915
01:15:46,567 --> 01:15:48,369
the final vote. And she

2916
01:15:48,369 --> 01:15:51,369
said, oh yeah, I know.

2917
01:15:51,606 --> 01:15:54,600
I be highly surprised

2918
01:15:54,108 --> 01:15:55,943
if we got a blessing,

2919
01:15:55,943 --> 01:15:57,344
if you will. To on a

2920
01:15:57,344 --> 01:15:58,279
land use plan from the

2921
01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:00,247
city council and then

2922
01:16:00,247 --> 01:16:01,115
we move forward into

2923
01:16:01,115 --> 01:16:03,117
policy writing and all

2924
01:16:03,117 --> 01:16:04,952
the other chapters and

2925
01:16:04,952 --> 01:16:05,786
we didn't make one

2926
01:16:05,786 --> 01:16:07,454
change to that land

2927
01:16:07,454 --> 01:16:10,454
use plan. That would be

2928
01:16:10,724 --> 01:16:11,920
shocking to me. Yeah.

2929
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:11,559
Can I ask.

2930
01:16:11,559 --> 01:16:12,827
>> a follow up

2931
01:16:12,827 --> 01:16:13,427
question? Sure. I hear

2932
01:16:13,427 --> 01:16:15,427
what you're saying.

2933
01:16:15,763 --> 01:16:16,363
And at the same time

2934
01:16:16,363 --> 01:16:18,566
map, that's before us

2935
01:16:18,566 --> 01:16:20,000
right now looked at

2936
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:20,801
annexing and

2937
01:16:20,801 --> 01:16:21,368
developing the

2938
01:16:21,368 --> 01:16:22,937
northwest and the

2939
01:16:22,937 --> 01:16:25,720
northeast. But not the

2940
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:26,140
south. Not where we're

2941
01:16:26,140 --> 01:16:27,641
clear of a lot of the

2942
01:16:27,641 --> 01:16:29,641
floodplain issues. And

2943
01:16:29,743 --> 01:16:31,178
me, it seems like yes,

2944
01:16:31,178 --> 01:16:31,779
we can make tweaks and

2945
01:16:31,779 --> 01:16:32,980
adjustments, but if

2946
01:16:32,980 --> 01:16:34,815
we're saying, you

2947
01:16:34,815 --> 01:16:35,382
know, actually having

2948
01:16:35,382 --> 01:16:36,583
listened to a lot of

2949
01:16:36,583 --> 01:16:37,151
public comment and

2950
01:16:37,151 --> 01:16:38,352
folks who don't want

2951
01:16:38,352 --> 01:16:38,953
us to develop in the

2952
01:16:38,953 --> 01:16:40,187
floodplain, we will be

2953
01:16:40,187 --> 01:16:42,220
upset about a general

2954
01:16:42,220 --> 01:16:43,824
plan that proposes

2955
01:16:43,824 --> 01:16:45,292
that why don't we just

2956
01:16:45,292 --> 01:16:47,940
do that right now and

2957
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:49,230
make a plan to develop

2958
01:16:49,230 --> 01:16:50,297
in the high ground and

2959
01:16:50,297 --> 01:16:52,297
start moving ourselves

2960
01:16:52,433 --> 01:16:53,567
down afeasible path?

2961
01:16:53,567 --> 01:16:54,235
What you haven't seen

2962
01:16:54,235 --> 01:16:55,702
is the

2963
01:16:55,702 --> 01:16:57,171
>> revised map. I've

2964
01:16:57,171 --> 01:16:59,273
seen it. It includes

2965
01:16:59,273 --> 01:17:00,708
the south area. But you

2966
01:17:00,708 --> 01:17:01,342
do realize that we

2967
01:17:01,342 --> 01:17:03,611
don't have a whole lot

2968
01:17:03,611 --> 01:17:04,545
of room in this all we

2969
01:17:04,545 --> 01:17:05,746
have is this isn't

2970
01:17:05,746 --> 01:17:08,315
going to be very easy

2971
01:17:08,315 --> 01:17:09,683
to see. Right here.

2972
01:17:09,683 --> 01:17:11,151
This sort of triangle

2973
01:17:11,151 --> 01:17:13,387
shape between mace and

2974
01:17:13,387 --> 01:17:14,254
to the west, where

2975
01:17:14,254 --> 01:17:16,654
that's it. That's all

2976
01:17:17,258 --> 01:17:18,726
we have

2977
01:17:18,726 --> 01:17:19,393
>> do a land swap with

2978
01:17:19,393 --> 01:17:20,527
solano county and.

2979
01:17:20,527 --> 01:17:21,662
>> it's going to take

2980
01:17:21,662 --> 01:17:22,997
years..

2981
01:17:22,997 --> 01:17:23,597
>> it's a general plan

2982
01:17:23,597 --> 01:17:25,199
to 2050. And we

2983
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:26,667
already own land. The

2984
01:17:26,667 --> 01:17:27,101
city owns land in

2985
01:17:27,101 --> 01:17:27,601
solano county.

2986
01:17:27,601 --> 01:17:28,802
>> yeah. So that means

2987
01:17:28,802 --> 01:17:30,802
they hve

2988
01:17:32,373 --> 01:17:34,373
jurisdiction. We don't

2989
01:17:35,643 --> 01:17:36,744
you could have

2990
01:17:36,744 --> 01:17:37,578
suggested to some

2991
01:17:37,578 --> 01:17:39,212
members of the general

2992
01:17:39,212 --> 01:17:40,314
plan committee that

2993
01:17:40,314 --> 01:17:41,782
maybe the idea of

2994
01:17:41,782 --> 01:17:42,883
going to the south is

2995
01:17:42,883 --> 01:17:44,170
something that you put

2996
01:17:44,170 --> 01:17:47,170
in the general plan as

2997
01:17:47,154 --> 01:17:49,554
an overall policy. But

2998
01:17:50,570 --> 01:17:50,924
if you think that is

2999
01:17:50,924 --> 01:17:52,559
going to solve your

3000
01:17:52,559 --> 01:17:53,961
meeting, your

3001
01:17:53,961 --> 01:17:55,950
requirement and

3002
01:17:55,950 --> 01:17:56,530
getting economic

3003
01:17:56,530 --> 01:17:57,970
development land use

3004
01:17:57,970 --> 01:17:58,665
available, it won't.

3005
01:17:58,665 --> 01:17:59,767
It's going to take

3006
01:17:59,767 --> 01:18:01,535
years and besides of

3007
01:18:01,535 --> 01:18:03,300
which, that assumes if

3008
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:04,471
we could get solano to

3009
01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:07,308
agree and if we can

3010
01:18:07,308 --> 01:18:08,742
get the state to agree

3011
01:18:08,742 --> 01:18:10,177
which we don't we don't

3012
01:18:10,177 --> 01:18:10,778
know and if we go to

3013
01:18:10,778 --> 01:18:11,612
the south. We're

3014
01:18:11,612 --> 01:18:12,279
probably going to have

3015
01:18:12,279 --> 01:18:14,515
to go all the way down

3016
01:18:14,515 --> 01:18:16,350
to padraic just what

3017
01:18:16,350 --> 01:18:17,417
you see here, but even

3018
01:18:17,417 --> 01:18:19,253
more because we're

3019
01:18:19,253 --> 01:18:20,387
going to need a second

3020
01:18:20,387 --> 01:18:21,722
way in and out of that

3021
01:18:21,722 --> 01:18:23,157
entire area. You

3022
01:18:23,157 --> 01:18:24,591
cannot serve that whole

3023
01:18:24,591 --> 01:18:26,393
area off of base

3024
01:18:26,393 --> 01:18:27,494
boulevard

3025
01:18:27,494 --> 01:18:28,562
>> up question.

3026
01:18:28,562 --> 01:18:30,562
>> for

3027
01:18:32,533 --> 01:18:34,334
>> the project? Wasn't

3028
01:18:34,334 --> 01:18:35,803
it an annexation in

3029
01:18:35,803 --> 01:18:37,237
solano county? No.

3030
01:18:37,237 --> 01:18:38,239
>> no, it got it got

3031
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:39,373
switched over.

3032
01:18:39,373 --> 01:18:40,507
>> it got swapped

3033
01:18:40,507 --> 01:18:41,341
between yolo county and

3034
01:18:41,341 --> 01:18:43,100
solano. And how long

3035
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:43,277
did that take for

3036
01:18:43,277 --> 01:18:43,777
solano?

3037
01:18:43,777 --> 01:18:44,745
>> it happened before

3038
01:18:44,745 --> 01:18:45,790
I got here, so I don't

3039
01:18:45,790 --> 01:18:46,880
know.

3040
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,448
>> that might be worth

3041
01:18:47,448 --> 01:18:49,830
investigating because

3042
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:49,783
if it's been done

3043
01:18:49,783 --> 01:18:51,218
before.

3044
01:18:51,218 --> 01:18:52,686
>> we're talking about

3045
01:18:52,686 --> 01:18:54,686
hundreds of acres

3046
01:18:56,623 --> 01:18:59,230
versus was 70? I mean,

3047
01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:07,267
it's a big difference.

3048
01:19:07,267 --> 01:19:08,902
>> the only other thing

3049
01:19:08,902 --> 01:19:10,337
I have a little more

3050
01:19:10,337 --> 01:19:11,400
clarification. U.S.

3051
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:12,138
army corps of

3052
01:19:12,138 --> 01:19:12,706
engineers has

3053
01:19:12,706 --> 01:19:14,274
tentatively selected a

3054
01:19:14,274 --> 01:19:15,709
plan to widen the road

3055
01:19:15,709 --> 01:19:18,109
bypass in eastern yolo

3056
01:19:18,979 --> 01:19:20,414
county. And it's more

3057
01:19:20,414 --> 01:19:20,981
the upper elkhorn

3058
01:19:20,981 --> 01:19:22,181
basin. So I don't know

3059
01:19:22,181 --> 01:19:23,317
that it's going to

3060
01:19:23,317 --> 01:19:25,717
affect that area. We

3061
01:19:27,921 --> 01:19:29,220
have here just an fyi.

3062
01:19:29,220 --> 01:19:30,123
We can look into that

3063
01:19:30,123 --> 01:19:31,158
and see what they

3064
01:19:31,158 --> 01:19:33,393
think is going to

3065
01:19:33,393 --> 01:19:35,793
happen. I suspect it

3066
01:19:35,862 --> 01:19:37,297
would significantly

3067
01:19:37,297 --> 01:19:39,297
different considering

3068
01:19:39,866 --> 01:19:40,533
where they end up

3069
01:19:40,533 --> 01:19:42,200
flooding 1200 more

3070
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:42,569
acres is what is the

3071
01:19:42,569 --> 01:19:44,569
potential for it.

3072
01:19:48,876 --> 01:19:49,942
Yeah. Commissioner

3073
01:19:49,942 --> 01:19:50,978
mclaughlin of our land

3074
01:19:50,978 --> 01:19:53,378
use committee. Do you

3075
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:06,994
have anything t add

3076
01:20:06,994 --> 01:20:07,961
can you speak into the

3077
01:20:07,961 --> 01:20:09,961
microphone so the

3078
01:20:11,198 --> 01:20:11,799
public can hear you?

3079
01:20:11,799 --> 01:20:12,966
>> to what extent can

3080
01:20:12,966 --> 01:20:14,966
you be

3081
01:20:15,436 --> 01:20:17,270
>> conditional draft

3082
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:18,380
plan because if it's

3083
01:20:18,380 --> 01:20:18,605
everything's

3084
01:20:18,605 --> 01:20:20,605
conditional, then it's

3085
01:20:21,275 --> 01:20:23,430
more like suggestions

3086
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:25,545
and I'm not a firm

3087
01:20:25,545 --> 01:20:26,980
plan, but this is a

3088
01:20:26,980 --> 01:20:29,380
this unique to do's

3089
01:20:30,217 --> 01:20:31,318
and think I heard that

3090
01:20:31,318 --> 01:20:33,718
before. But yeah, there

3091
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:38,158
on but and and so

3092
01:20:38,158 --> 01:20:39,926
flooding. So I issues

3093
01:20:39,926 --> 01:20:42,326
in natural areas that

3094
01:20:42,529 --> 01:20:44,929
you would think for

3095
01:20:45,332 --> 01:20:46,433
expansions. So so I

3096
01:20:46,433 --> 01:20:47,534
don't know. I'd like

3097
01:20:47,534 --> 01:20:49,934
to think about the

3098
01:20:50,370 --> 01:20:52,639
issue and could kind

3099
01:20:52,639 --> 01:20:54,410
of around and see, you

3100
01:20:54,410 --> 01:20:56,877
know, is there a way to

3101
01:20:56,877 --> 01:20:57,944
draft there is seen it

3102
01:20:57,944 --> 01:20:59,450
done.

3103
01:20:59,450 --> 01:21:00,513
>> basically what

3104
01:21:00,513 --> 01:21:01,347
other cities who have

3105
01:21:01,347 --> 01:21:02,349
maybe it's not

3106
01:21:02,349 --> 01:21:03,183
floodplain issues,

3107
01:21:03,183 --> 01:21:04,840
maybe it's some other

3108
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:05,118
issue where they don't

3109
01:21:05,118 --> 01:21:06,253
have some kind of

3110
01:21:06,253 --> 01:21:08,253
infrastructure built

3111
01:21:08,355 --> 01:21:09,122
or really big freeway

3112
01:21:09,122 --> 01:21:10,923
interchange or

3113
01:21:10,923 --> 01:21:11,624
something basically

3114
01:21:11,624 --> 01:21:13,590
say in their general

3115
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:15,629
plan and in a policy

3116
01:21:15,629 --> 01:21:17,630
that developers are

3117
01:21:17,630 --> 01:21:17,664
people who need people

3118
01:21:17,664 --> 01:21:19,664
who would actually

3119
01:21:19,866 --> 01:21:20,500
build on those lands

3120
01:21:20,500 --> 01:21:22,803
not allowed to come in

3121
01:21:22,803 --> 01:21:23,370
and build on anything.

3122
01:21:23,370 --> 01:21:24,571
I've got any

3123
01:21:24,571 --> 01:21:25,500
additional

3124
01:21:25,500 --> 01:21:26,372
entitlements until

3125
01:21:26,372 --> 01:21:26,940
they come in with

3126
01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:28,940
something of, let's

3127
01:21:30,377 --> 01:21:32,245
say, 200 acres or 300

3128
01:21:32,245 --> 01:21:33,613
acres at a time. And

3129
01:21:33,613 --> 01:21:35,749
what that allows for

3130
01:21:35,749 --> 01:21:37,851
is a lot more master

3131
01:21:37,851 --> 01:21:39,319
planning of facilities

3132
01:21:39,319 --> 01:21:41,319
and infrastructure

3133
01:21:41,922 --> 01:21:42,389
than you get on a 75

3134
01:21:42,389 --> 01:21:44,230
acre parcel like you

3135
01:21:44,230 --> 01:21:45,792
did on bretton woods

3136
01:21:45,792 --> 01:21:47,627
and so what we might

3137
01:21:47,627 --> 01:21:49,829
do is write policies

3138
01:21:49,829 --> 01:21:51,965
that say can't come in

3139
01:21:51,965 --> 01:21:52,599
and do you know,, 50

3140
01:21:52,599 --> 01:21:54,100
acre parcel that's not

3141
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:56,637
going to work? Or if

3142
01:21:56,637 --> 01:21:58,104
you do have to go and

3143
01:21:58,104 --> 01:22:00,607
work with the guy who

3144
01:22:00,607 --> 01:22:01,274
owns the land up here.

3145
01:22:01,274 --> 01:22:02,409
Where maybe they're

3146
01:22:02,409 --> 01:22:04,177
down here and you're up

3147
01:22:04,177 --> 01:22:05,278
here and that's where

3148
01:22:05,278 --> 01:22:07,278
the detention basin

3149
01:22:07,813 --> 01:22:09,649
needs to be MR.

3150
01:22:09,649 --> 01:22:11,649
Developer figure it

3151
01:22:11,751 --> 01:22:13,920
out. I had a project in

3152
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,322
rockland. It was 900

3153
01:22:15,322 --> 01:22:16,456
acres, five different

3154
01:22:16,456 --> 01:22:17,230
people. They all had

3155
01:22:17,230 --> 01:22:18,257
different objectives

3156
01:22:18,257 --> 01:22:20,360
about who was going to

3157
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,161
do what and they were

3158
01:22:21,161 --> 01:22:22,280
trying desperately to

3159
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:23,930
make sure that the

3160
01:22:23,930 --> 01:22:25,650
land uses that got

3161
01:22:25,650 --> 01:22:26,866
assigned to their

3162
01:22:26,866 --> 01:22:28,866
properties were equal

3163
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:29,603
between them. Well, we

3164
01:22:29,603 --> 01:22:31,238
did a pretty good job

3165
01:22:31,238 --> 01:22:33,373
of that. But then when

3166
01:22:33,373 --> 01:22:34,474
time came to build

3167
01:22:34,474 --> 01:22:35,909
were not too excited

3168
01:22:35,909 --> 01:22:37,711
about having to build

3169
01:22:37,711 --> 01:22:39,711
bridges across creeks.

3170
01:22:39,846 --> 01:22:40,413
Or detention basins or

3171
01:22:40,413 --> 01:22:41,281
any of that kind of

3172
01:22:41,281 --> 01:22:42,148
stuff, because guess

3173
01:22:42,148 --> 01:22:43,416
what? You don't make

3174
01:22:43,416 --> 01:22:44,517
money when you have to

3175
01:22:44,517 --> 01:22:45,118
build those kind of

3176
01:22:45,118 --> 01:22:46,180
improvements. But there

3177
01:22:46,180 --> 01:22:46,586
was no way they were

3178
01:22:46,586 --> 01:22:48,121
going to be able to

3179
01:22:48,121 --> 01:22:49,222
build houses and other

3180
01:22:49,222 --> 01:22:51,222
things until those

3181
01:22:51,691 --> 01:22:53,159
things were there. So

3182
01:22:53,159 --> 01:22:54,961
we forced them via

3183
01:22:54,961 --> 01:22:56,620
policy to say you got

3184
01:22:56,620 --> 01:22:56,663
to figure it out. You

3185
01:22:56,663 --> 01:22:57,497
guys figure it out.

3186
01:22:57,497 --> 01:22:58,498
And then come back and

3187
01:22:58,498 --> 01:23:00,898
see us when you're

3188
01:23:04,300 --> 01:23:05,772
ready did they did all

3189
01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:06,639
about motivation and

3190
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:07,907
incentive. It can be

3191
01:23:07,907 --> 01:23:09,342
done. It hasn't been

3192
01:23:09,342 --> 01:23:10,810
done in davis because

3193
01:23:10,810 --> 01:23:11,845
we've always done one

3194
01:23:11,845 --> 01:23:12,612
little project, one

3195
01:23:12,612 --> 01:23:13,179
little project, one

3196
01:23:13,179 --> 01:23:14,380
little project, and we

3197
01:23:14,380 --> 01:23:15,882
don't connect the

3198
01:23:15,882 --> 01:23:17,882
roads. W don't

3199
01:23:17,984 --> 01:23:19,452
connect the drainage

3200
01:23:19,452 --> 01:23:21,253
it's one piece, as i

3201
01:23:21,253 --> 01:23:22,355
said, like we have

3202
01:23:22,355 --> 01:23:24,755
several giant cul de

3203
01:23:25,559 --> 01:23:27,260
sacs, because you

3204
01:23:27,260 --> 01:23:30,260
can't go any other way

3205
01:23:30,963 --> 01:23:32,963
in between.. Thing

3206
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,200
for drainage.

3207
01:23:40,373 --> 01:23:40,940
>> so.. Just a

3208
01:23:40,940 --> 01:23:42,475
recommendation was to

3209
01:23:42,475 --> 01:23:44,475
consider being

3210
01:23:44,611 --> 01:23:46,611
contrast forward

3211
01:23:47,146 --> 01:23:48,648
anything. Sure that we

3212
01:23:48,648 --> 01:23:49,249
own the gs maps that

3213
01:23:49,249 --> 01:23:49,749
they create.

3214
01:23:49,749 --> 01:23:50,750
>> well we're going to

3215
01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:53,750
get them at the end.

3216
01:23:53,987 --> 01:23:54,487
>> oh thank

3217
01:23:54,487 --> 01:23:55,121
>> conversation. We're

3218
01:23:55,121 --> 01:23:55,421
getting them at the

3219
01:23:55,421 --> 01:23:56,556
end.

3220
01:23:56,556 --> 01:23:57,923
>> thank you.

3221
01:23:57,923 --> 01:23:59,923
>> absolutely. We just

3222
01:24:01,594 --> 01:24:02,462
don't have interim.

3223
01:24:02,462 --> 01:24:05,462
No, I've done that. And

3224
01:24:05,832 --> 01:24:07,634
it's really bad. All

3225
01:24:07,634 --> 01:24:09,102
right do we have any

3226
01:24:09,102 --> 01:24:09,769
further questions or

3227
01:24:09,769 --> 01:24:10,903
comments. Does anyone

3228
01:24:10,903 --> 01:24:13,903
want to make a motion

3229
01:24:26,419 --> 01:24:27,287
on this sure.

3230
01:24:27,287 --> 01:24:29,689
>> I can talk to him

3231
01:24:29,689 --> 01:24:30,657
about it. And

3232
01:24:30,657 --> 01:24:32,925
>> we can possibly come

3233
01:24:32,925 --> 01:24:33,926
back with some generic

3234
01:24:33,926 --> 01:24:35,394
recommendations and

3235
01:24:35,394 --> 01:24:36,829
kind of something like

3236
01:24:36,829 --> 01:24:38,932
what I described about

3237
01:24:38,932 --> 01:24:40,400
how that would work do

3238
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,400
that

3239
01:24:48,410 --> 01:24:49,809
>> very interesting.

3240
01:24:49,809 --> 01:24:52,209
>> I'll just say also

3241
01:24:52,278 --> 01:24:53,460
that I think in davis

3242
01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:55,148
, one of my concerns

3243
01:24:55,148 --> 01:24:56,115
with the general plan

3244
01:24:56,115 --> 01:24:57,717
update is that we have

3245
01:24:57,717 --> 01:24:58,751
heard from the a lot

3246
01:24:58,751 --> 01:24:59,886
about floodplains and

3247
01:24:59,886 --> 01:25:01,654
how important they

3248
01:25:01,654 --> 01:25:04,923
are, and so I that if

3249
01:25:04,923 --> 01:25:05,525
we don't listen and

3250
01:25:05,525 --> 01:25:06,693
recommendation to not

3251
01:25:06,693 --> 01:25:08,494
develop in them or

3252
01:25:08,494 --> 01:25:09,929
really mitigate them,

3253
01:25:09,929 --> 01:25:11,630
that that will cause

3254
01:25:11,630 --> 01:25:13,463
problems later on. And

3255
01:25:13,933 --> 01:25:16,402
I also I also worry

3256
01:25:16,402 --> 01:25:17,537
that a development

3257
01:25:17,537 --> 01:25:18,371
where we're saying it's

3258
01:25:18,371 --> 01:25:19,672
going to be a large

3259
01:25:19,672 --> 01:25:20,773
scale, large

3260
01:25:20,773 --> 01:25:22,575
developer. Davis has

3261
01:25:22,575 --> 01:25:24,575
always preferred small

3262
01:25:25,478 --> 01:25:26,611
local shops and so yu

3263
01:25:26,611 --> 01:25:27,913
know, I'm, I'm just I

3264
01:25:27,913 --> 01:25:30,490
think that's going to

3265
01:25:30,490 --> 01:25:31,183
take some it's going to

3266
01:25:31,183 --> 01:25:31,751
take some out with the

3267
01:25:31,751 --> 01:25:32,985
public and some time

3268
01:25:32,985 --> 01:25:34,860
for folks to think

3269
01:25:34,860 --> 01:25:35,555
through and talk and

3270
01:25:35,555 --> 01:25:37,955
voice opinions on as

3271
01:25:38,230 --> 01:25:39,910
well. I understand

3272
01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:39,692
that and I understand

3273
01:25:39,692 --> 01:25:40,893
that people have

3274
01:25:40,893 --> 01:25:43,620
thought that way for

3275
01:25:43,620 --> 01:25:44,130
many, many years. I

3276
01:25:44,130 --> 01:25:44,697
personally am very

3277
01:25:44,697 --> 01:25:45,932
hopeful that we'll

3278
01:25:45,932 --> 01:25:47,400
grove will get

3279
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:48,000
approved and I'm

3280
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,535
hopeful that we'll have

3281
01:25:49,535 --> 01:25:51,303
grove will waylay all

3282
01:25:51,303 --> 01:25:52,438
of those concerns.

3283
01:25:52,438 --> 01:25:54,207
Because it's not going

3284
01:25:54,207 --> 01:25:54,807
to get built that way

3285
01:25:54,807 --> 01:25:57,109
it's going to get

3286
01:25:57,109 --> 01:25:59,244
built by a master

3287
01:25:59,244 --> 01:26:00,713
developer with to

3288
01:26:00,713 --> 01:26:01,813
guess. Several

3289
01:26:01,813 --> 01:26:03,616
different home

3290
01:26:03,616 --> 01:26:05,418
builders involved

3291
01:26:05,418 --> 01:26:06,850
because that's the way

3292
01:26:06,850 --> 01:26:08,850
modern homes

3293
01:26:08,988 --> 01:26:10,988
construction is done

3294
01:26:15,494 --> 01:26:15,795
..

3295
01:26:15,795 --> 01:26:16,929
>> right.

3296
01:26:16,929 --> 01:26:17,997
>> I'm not seeing a

3297
01:26:17,997 --> 01:26:18,865
motion on the table for

3298
01:26:18,865 --> 01:26:20,533
the northeast. So I

3299
01:26:20,533 --> 01:26:21,634
think we're it's we're

3300
01:26:21,634 --> 01:26:23,690
not making a

3301
01:26:23,690 --> 01:26:23,769
recommendation on it.

3302
01:26:23,769 --> 01:26:25,170
We've made our

3303
01:26:25,170 --> 01:26:27,600
recommendation on on

3304
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:27,506
the south and then

3305
01:26:27,506 --> 01:26:28,140
commissioner rowe, did

3306
01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:30,140
you have something

3307
01:26:30,576 --> 01:26:31,177
else to add

3308
01:26:31,177 --> 01:26:33,577
>> yeah, I do have

3309
01:26:34,180 --> 01:26:34,647
something else and I

3310
01:26:34,647 --> 01:26:36,382
apologize. This will

3311
01:26:36,382 --> 01:26:36,949
take a few minutes

3312
01:26:36,949 --> 01:26:38,518
just some background

3313
01:26:38,518 --> 01:26:40,653
here. I was appointed

3314
01:26:40,653 --> 01:26:41,487
to this commission in

3315
01:26:41,487 --> 01:26:43,188
JANUARY of 2018, and

3316
01:26:43,188 --> 01:26:44,657
at that time I was

3317
01:26:44,657 --> 01:26:46,657
handed this massive

3318
01:26:47,493 --> 01:26:48,594
document to 2007

3319
01:26:48,594 --> 01:26:49,161
general plan and I

3320
01:26:49,161 --> 01:26:51,561
read it cover to

3321
01:26:51,831 --> 01:26:52,231
cover. I ws very

3322
01:26:52,231 --> 01:26:52,732
interested in it

3323
01:26:52,732 --> 01:26:54,700
because I come from a

3324
01:26:54,700 --> 01:26:55,801
planning background

3325
01:26:55,801 --> 01:26:57,801
professionally. I took

3326
01:26:57,970 --> 01:26:58,971
the time to read it

3327
01:26:58,971 --> 01:27:00,873
cover to cover again.

3328
01:27:00,873 --> 01:27:02,208
Last DECEMBER. And I

3329
01:27:02,208 --> 01:27:04,109
really carefully

3330
01:27:04,109 --> 01:27:04,943
evaluated it in the

3331
01:27:04,943 --> 01:27:06,245
context of the of the

3332
01:27:06,245 --> 01:27:07,346
multitude of projects

3333
01:27:07,346 --> 01:27:09,148
and policy decisions

3334
01:27:09,148 --> 01:27:09,981
that I've had to be

3335
01:27:09,981 --> 01:27:11,616
involved with in,

3336
01:27:11,616 --> 01:27:12,718
during the last eight

3337
01:27:12,718 --> 01:27:13,619
and a half years. And

3338
01:27:13,619 --> 01:27:15,221
also in the context of

3339
01:27:15,221 --> 01:27:17,423
the zoning code, which

3340
01:27:17,423 --> 01:27:19,191
actually, of course

3341
01:27:19,191 --> 01:27:20,659
the general plan and

3342
01:27:20,659 --> 01:27:22,795
that resulted in a long

3343
01:27:22,795 --> 01:27:23,229
I wrote, which at that

3344
01:27:23,229 --> 01:27:23,896
point was about ten

3345
01:27:23,896 --> 01:27:24,497
pages. That was

3346
01:27:24,497 --> 01:27:25,630
addressed to the

3347
01:27:25,630 --> 01:27:26,699
planning staff and

3348
01:27:26,699 --> 01:27:27,600
which I. Basically

3349
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,000
point by point section

3350
01:27:30,736 --> 01:27:32,171
by section. Critique

3351
01:27:32,171 --> 01:27:34,571
of the current general

3352
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:35,775
plan I recently

3353
01:27:35,775 --> 01:27:37,209
revised that memo with

3354
01:27:37,209 --> 01:27:39,110
some valuable input

3355
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:41,480
from my co member on

3356
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:43,682
the land use concepts

3357
01:27:43,682 --> 01:27:44,550
committee. Mclaughlin.

3358
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:45,484
The intent of that

3359
01:27:45,484 --> 01:27:46,952
memo is to provide

3360
01:27:46,952 --> 01:27:47,520
what I hope will be

3361
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:48,721
useful background

3362
01:27:48,721 --> 01:27:50,523
information for this

3363
01:27:50,523 --> 01:27:52,324
commission and for the

3364
01:27:52,324 --> 01:27:53,192
general plan

3365
01:27:53,192 --> 01:27:54,460
committee. I looked at

3366
01:27:54,460 --> 01:27:55,894
everything from the

3367
01:27:55,894 --> 01:27:57,363
visions, the community

3368
01:27:57,363 --> 01:27:58,230
forum, the used in

3369
01:27:58,230 --> 01:28:00,630
creating that land use

3370
01:28:01,700 --> 01:28:02,301
map. Growth management

3371
01:28:02,301 --> 01:28:03,468
policies, growth

3372
01:28:03,468 --> 01:28:04,336
management and infill.

3373
01:28:04,336 --> 01:28:06,338
I should mention that

3374
01:28:06,338 --> 01:28:06,906
everybody on the

3375
01:28:06,906 --> 01:28:08,107
commission received a

3376
01:28:08,107 --> 01:28:08,707
copy of this memo.

3377
01:28:08,707 --> 01:28:09,575
This afternoon, and

3378
01:28:09,575 --> 01:28:11,975
there's, I think, a

3379
01:28:12,111 --> 01:28:14,511
copy in that green

3380
01:28:15,130 --> 01:28:17,413
binder at the back..

3381
01:28:17,850 --> 01:28:20,520
And I guess we I came

3382
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:20,619
up with in general

3383
01:28:20,619 --> 01:28:22,187
about six conclusions

3384
01:28:22,187 --> 01:28:24,187
and recommendations in

3385
01:28:24,757 --> 01:28:25,123
this 11 page memo, I

3386
01:28:25,123 --> 01:28:25,657
think the first

3387
01:28:25,657 --> 01:28:26,525
observation is that the

3388
01:28:26,525 --> 01:28:28,525
current general plan

3389
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,280
was adopted in 2007.

3390
01:28:31,931 --> 01:28:32,832
It was adopted at that

3391
01:28:32,832 --> 01:28:34,833
time in the context of

3392
01:28:34,833 --> 01:28:35,868
the circumstances and

3393
01:28:35,868 --> 01:28:36,435
perceived community

3394
01:28:36,435 --> 01:28:38,835
needs at that time

3395
01:28:39,872 --> 01:28:40,806
that no longer exist.

3396
01:28:40,806 --> 01:28:43,442
As such, I find it to

3397
01:28:43,442 --> 01:28:44,109
be outmoded

3398
01:28:44,109 --> 01:28:44,710
prescriptive

3399
01:28:44,710 --> 01:28:45,544
cumbersome, and

3400
01:28:45,544 --> 01:28:46,679
restrictive in a

3401
01:28:46,679 --> 01:28:48,147
manner that cnstrains

3402
01:28:48,147 --> 01:28:48,714
economic and housing

3403
01:28:48,714 --> 01:28:50,714
development in the

3404
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:53,185
city of davis seen

3405
01:28:53,185 --> 01:28:55,320
this evidence of this

3406
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:55,888
in a presentation that

3407
01:28:55,888 --> 01:28:56,756
vincent, I received

3408
01:28:56,756 --> 01:28:58,557
from katie yancey,

3409
01:28:58,557 --> 01:28:59,124
where she summarized

3410
01:28:59,124 --> 01:29:00,326
her interviews that

3411
01:29:00,326 --> 01:29:01,794
she's had with with

3412
01:29:01,794 --> 01:29:02,561
business leaders and

3413
01:29:02,561 --> 01:29:04,561
potential developers

3414
01:29:04,696 --> 01:29:07,960
who have said general

3415
01:29:07,599 --> 01:29:08,167
plan the pd's

3416
01:29:08,167 --> 01:29:08,733
development districts

3417
01:29:08,733 --> 01:29:10,402
that are inherent in

3418
01:29:10,402 --> 01:29:10,969
zoning code, just

3419
01:29:10,969 --> 01:29:12,171
makes it really

3420
01:29:12,171 --> 01:29:14,171
difficult to develop

3421
01:29:14,406 --> 01:29:15,274
in davis almost as if

3422
01:29:15,274 --> 01:29:16,875
the crrent general

3423
01:29:16,875 --> 01:29:17,476
plan is intended to

3424
01:29:17,476 --> 01:29:19,445
discourage development

3425
01:29:19,445 --> 01:29:20,879
from that perspective.

3426
01:29:20,879 --> 01:29:22,348
The primary goal of the

3427
01:29:22,348 --> 01:29:23,181
general plan and this

3428
01:29:23,181 --> 01:29:25,581
appears in page after

3429
01:29:25,584 --> 01:29:26,952
page after page. Is to

3430
01:29:26,952 --> 01:29:28,860
preserve the small

3431
01:29:28,860 --> 01:29:30,860
university ambience

3432
01:29:30,622 --> 01:29:31,222
and character of davis

3433
01:29:31,222 --> 01:29:32,391
in reality, I think

3434
01:29:32,391 --> 01:29:33,258
what we need is a new

3435
01:29:33,258 --> 01:29:34,526
plan tat promotes and

3436
01:29:34,526 --> 01:29:35,995
provides for future

3437
01:29:35,995 --> 01:29:37,950
economic and housing

3438
01:29:37,950 --> 01:29:38,497
development, economic

3439
01:29:38,497 --> 01:29:39,965
development ad housing

3440
01:29:39,965 --> 01:29:41,330
opportunities think

3441
01:29:41,330 --> 01:29:41,733
what we need to

3442
01:29:41,733 --> 01:29:42,367
realize in developing

3443
01:29:42,367 --> 01:29:43,968
this new general plan

3444
01:29:43,968 --> 01:29:46,710
is that we're part of a

3445
01:29:46,710 --> 01:29:46,939
dynamic evolving

3446
01:29:46,939 --> 01:29:47,873
metropolitan area, and

3447
01:29:47,873 --> 01:29:49,307
like it or not, the

3448
01:29:49,307 --> 01:29:50,775
city of davis is in

3449
01:29:50,775 --> 01:29:52,775
direct competition

3450
01:29:53,244 --> 01:29:54,712
with other cities. For

3451
01:29:54,712 --> 01:29:56,481
employment generating

3452
01:29:56,481 --> 01:29:57,810
development. And as

3453
01:29:57,810 --> 01:29:58,317
the people who've been

3454
01:29:58,317 --> 01:29:58,917
interviewed by katie

3455
01:29:58,917 --> 01:30:00,185
yancey said, our

3456
01:30:00,185 --> 01:30:01,190
general plan doesn't do

3457
01:30:01,190 --> 01:30:02,286
that. It doesn't it

3458
01:30:02,286 --> 01:30:04,286
doesn't encourage

3459
01:30:04,423 --> 01:30:04,990
economic development.

3460
01:30:04,990 --> 01:30:06,224
Think we need a

3461
01:30:06,224 --> 01:30:07,580
general plan that

3462
01:30:07,580 --> 01:30:08,760
enables our city to

3463
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:09,361
leverage the

3464
01:30:09,361 --> 01:30:10,896
advantages that it has

3465
01:30:10,896 --> 01:30:12,697
to obtain our share of

3466
01:30:12,697 --> 01:30:13,264
economic advancement.

3467
01:30:13,264 --> 01:30:14,499
Other thing that's

3468
01:30:14,499 --> 01:30:15,660
kind of strange is the

3469
01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:17,350
current general plan

3470
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:18,503
has a major emphasis

3471
01:30:18,503 --> 01:30:19,938
on providing off

3472
01:30:19,938 --> 01:30:22,740
campus housing for uc

3473
01:30:22,740 --> 01:30:23,875
davis students which

3474
01:30:23,875 --> 01:30:24,977
has allowed uc davis to

3475
01:30:24,977 --> 01:30:25,543
avoid its

3476
01:30:25,543 --> 01:30:26,778
responsibility to

3477
01:30:26,778 --> 01:30:28,547
provide on campus

3478
01:30:28,547 --> 01:30:29,214
housing think the new

3479
01:30:29,214 --> 01:30:30,682
general plan update

3480
01:30:30,682 --> 01:30:31,283
should iclude

3481
01:30:31,283 --> 01:30:32,484
specific policies that

3482
01:30:32,484 --> 01:30:33,952
will encourage uc

3483
01:30:33,952 --> 01:30:35,200
davis to substantially

3484
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:36,854
increase on campus

3485
01:30:36,854 --> 01:30:37,421
housing historically,

3486
01:30:37,421 --> 01:30:38,656
just as some

3487
01:30:38,656 --> 01:30:40,425
background is. This

3488
01:30:40,425 --> 01:30:42,425
commission was looking

3489
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,796
at a major student

3490
01:30:44,796 --> 01:30:45,630
housing project in

3491
01:30:45,630 --> 01:30:47,265
2018. It was the

3492
01:30:47,265 --> 01:30:47,833
university.

3493
01:30:47,833 --> 01:30:49,833
Redevelopment, and it &

3494
01:30:49,834 --> 01:30:50,869
was proposed for 4 or 5

3495
01:30:50,869 --> 01:30:52,270
stories of rent by the

3496
01:30:52,270 --> 01:30:53,405
bed luxury student

3497
01:30:53,405 --> 01:30:54,505
housing on top of the

3498
01:30:54,505 --> 01:30:55,873
mall. And this

3499
01:30:55,873 --> 01:30:57,873
commission unanimously

3500
01:30:58,476 --> 01:30:59,344
and vigorously. On a 7

3501
01:30:59,344 --> 01:31:00,912
to 0 vote, said, don't

3502
01:31:00,912 --> 01:31:02,781
do it. We've already

3503
01:31:02,781 --> 01:31:04,781
approved for big

3504
01:31:05,650 --> 01:31:07,520
housing projects. A

3505
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:07,652
thousand units and

3506
01:31:07,652 --> 01:31:09,254
4000 beds for student

3507
01:31:09,254 --> 01:31:10,655
housing and we said

3508
01:31:10,655 --> 01:31:11,222
no. Unfortunately, the

3509
01:31:11,222 --> 01:31:12,900
council didn't abide

3510
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:12,957
by that. But there

3511
01:31:12,957 --> 01:31:13,859
seems to be at least

3512
01:31:13,859 --> 01:31:16,930
in recent years, a

3513
01:31:16,930 --> 01:31:18,930
pretty consistent

3514
01:31:18,229 --> 01:31:19,330
emphasis on on having

3515
01:31:19,330 --> 01:31:22,166
uc davis take care of

3516
01:31:22,166 --> 01:31:23,340
its own number four,

3517
01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:23,969
when we get to the

3518
01:31:23,969 --> 01:31:25,690
zoning code, I think

3519
01:31:25,690 --> 01:31:26,171
we need to completely

3520
01:31:26,171 --> 01:31:27,606
drop this idea of

3521
01:31:27,606 --> 01:31:29,740
planned development

3522
01:31:29,740 --> 01:31:30,108
districts. There are

3523
01:31:30,108 --> 01:31:30,675
layered on top of the

3524
01:31:30,675 --> 01:31:31,542
existing zoning. And

3525
01:31:31,542 --> 01:31:32,677
again, that's

3526
01:31:32,677 --> 01:31:33,545
something that katie

3527
01:31:33,545 --> 01:31:34,812
cited as an example of

3528
01:31:34,812 --> 01:31:35,480
the problems that

3529
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:36,800
developers have when

3530
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:37,348
they want to do

3531
01:31:37,348 --> 01:31:37,915
something in davis,

3532
01:31:37,915 --> 01:31:38,483
they look at the

3533
01:31:38,483 --> 01:31:40,618
zoning code, they come

3534
01:31:40,618 --> 01:31:41,186
in to do a give a

3535
01:31:41,186 --> 01:31:42,420
proposal, and they go,

3536
01:31:42,420 --> 01:31:43,255
oh, by the way, you've

3537
01:31:43,255 --> 01:31:45,657
also got to look at the

3538
01:31:45,657 --> 01:31:47,759
pd. We have 150 of

3539
01:31:47,759 --> 01:31:48,393
these. Pd can't keep

3540
01:31:48,393 --> 01:31:49,194
track of them. I don't

3541
01:31:49,194 --> 01:31:50,610
know how the city.

3542
01:31:50,610 --> 01:31:50,996
Staff keeps on track.

3543
01:31:50,996 --> 01:31:51,630
Track of it. I think

3544
01:31:51,630 --> 01:31:54,966
we need to get rid of

3545
01:31:54,966 --> 01:31:55,533
them. So I think the

3546
01:31:55,533 --> 01:31:57,135
conclusion that's in

3547
01:31:57,135 --> 01:31:58,970
this memo is that we

3548
01:31:58,970 --> 01:31:59,637
need to continue

3549
01:31:59,637 --> 01:32:00,739
proceeding with a

3550
01:32:00,739 --> 01:32:02,173
completely new general

3551
01:32:02,173 --> 01:32:02,740
plan that focuses on

3552
01:32:02,740 --> 01:32:03,942
economic development,

3553
01:32:03,942 --> 01:32:05,777
job creation and

3554
01:32:05,777 --> 01:32:06,644
housing opportunities

3555
01:32:06,644 --> 01:32:07,913
in the last point,

3556
01:32:07,913 --> 01:32:08,513
getting back to the

3557
01:32:08,513 --> 01:32:09,681
discussion, we just had

3558
01:32:09,681 --> 01:32:10,549
here is that

3559
01:32:10,549 --> 01:32:11,149
successfully

3560
01:32:11,149 --> 01:32:11,750
implementing this

3561
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:12,583
general, this new

3562
01:32:12,583 --> 01:32:13,718
general plan is going

3563
01:32:13,718 --> 01:32:14,719
to require

3564
01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:16,153
comprehensive plans

3565
01:32:16,153 --> 01:32:16,621
and strategies for

3566
01:32:16,621 --> 01:32:18,621
stormwater management

3567
01:32:19,424 --> 01:32:20,559
and flood control so

3568
01:32:20,559 --> 01:32:21,960
you all have the 11

3569
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:22,594
page memo. I hope you

3570
01:32:22,594 --> 01:32:24,462
have an opportunity to

3571
01:32:24,462 --> 01:32:25,300
look at it. I don't

3572
01:32:25,300 --> 01:32:26,665
know when it's going

3573
01:32:26,665 --> 01:32:28,466
to get broader

3574
01:32:28,466 --> 01:32:29,670
distribution. And I

3575
01:32:29,670 --> 01:32:30,268
appreciate the

3576
01:32:30,268 --> 01:32:31,703
excellent input I got

3577
01:32:31,703 --> 01:32:34,172
from from vince on it.

3578
01:32:34,172 --> 01:32:35,307
And. I've been doing

3579
01:32:35,307 --> 01:32:36,341
this for eight and a

3580
01:32:36,341 --> 01:32:37,776
half, almost nine years

3581
01:32:37,776 --> 01:32:39,544
on this commission.

3582
01:32:39,544 --> 01:32:40,679
And I can't in good

3583
01:32:40,679 --> 01:32:42,447
conscience look at at

3584
01:32:42,447 --> 01:32:43,582
what exists now that

3585
01:32:43,582 --> 01:32:44,449
many people think

3586
01:32:44,449 --> 01:32:46,484
shouldn't be changed at

3587
01:32:46,484 --> 01:32:47,352
all. And say this is

3588
01:32:47,352 --> 01:32:48,253
the way forward,

3589
01:32:48,253 --> 01:32:49,120
because I don't think

3590
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:50,488
it's going to get us to

3591
01:32:50,488 --> 01:32:51,489
where we. We need to

3592
01:32:51,489 --> 01:32:52,991
be. I think we need to

3593
01:32:52,991 --> 01:32:54,326
focus on how we can be

3594
01:32:54,326 --> 01:32:55,427
a dynamic city that's

3595
01:32:55,427 --> 01:32:56,528
open t the future

3596
01:32:56,528 --> 01:32:57,996
rather than trying to

3597
01:32:57,996 --> 01:33:00,396
preserve the past. So

3598
01:33:01,232 --> 01:33:03,232
that's all

3599
01:33:04,502 --> 01:33:06,271
>> I just.. I'm going

3600
01:33:06,271 --> 01:33:07,105
to just soften what you

3601
01:33:07,105 --> 01:33:08,390
said a little bit by

3602
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:08,908
saying that I think a

3603
01:33:08,908 --> 01:33:10,876
lot of the folks who

3604
01:33:10,876 --> 01:33:11,509
work very hard on our

3605
01:33:11,509 --> 01:33:13,111
general plan and have

3606
01:33:13,111 --> 01:33:13,945
made davis what it is

3607
01:33:13,945 --> 01:33:15,246
today. Care a lot

3608
01:33:15,246 --> 01:33:15,981
about it. And I don't

3609
01:33:15,981 --> 01:33:17,382
hear them saying they

3610
01:33:17,382 --> 01:33:19,150
don't want to change

3611
01:33:19,150 --> 01:33:21,550
anything. I hear them

3612
01:33:21,686 --> 01:33:23,155
being anxious about

3613
01:33:23,155 --> 01:33:24,255
some of the changes. So

3614
01:33:24,255 --> 01:33:26,758
I think as we continue

3615
01:33:26,758 --> 01:33:27,325
to collaborate on our

3616
01:33:27,325 --> 01:33:28,560
2050 vision, it's

3617
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:29,293
important to

3618
01:33:29,293 --> 01:33:31,960
acknowledge that

3619
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:32,897
collective work and

3620
01:33:32,897 --> 01:33:34,732
figure out how to mve

3621
01:33:34,732 --> 01:33:35,366
together and honor

3622
01:33:35,366 --> 01:33:36,501
that work for what it

3623
01:33:36,501 --> 01:33:39,370
was then. We're in a

3624
01:33:39,370 --> 01:33:39,370
different space now

3625
01:33:39,370 --> 01:33:40,171
>> agree.

3626
01:33:40,171 --> 01:33:42,171
>> all right. Along

3627
01:33:44,776 --> 01:33:45,610
those lines tabled the

3628
01:33:45,610 --> 01:33:47,610
the conversation about

3629
01:33:49,113 --> 01:33:49,680
the northeast ad our

3630
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,582
conversation tonight

3631
01:33:51,582 --> 01:33:52,683
made me think about the

3632
01:33:52,683 --> 01:33:54,683
recommendation that we

3633
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:56,955
made for the south and

3634
01:33:56,955 --> 01:33:57,422
also we we have

3635
01:33:57,422 --> 01:33:58,823
recommendations from

3636
01:33:58,823 --> 01:33:59,323
the transportation

3637
01:33:59,323 --> 01:34:00,992
commission. So what I'd

3638
01:34:00,992 --> 01:34:02,794
like to do now for our

3639
01:34:02,794 --> 01:34:04,794
general plan update

3640
01:34:05,230 --> 01:34:05,963
recommendations is one

3641
01:34:05,963 --> 01:34:07,799
put forward on the

3642
01:34:07,799 --> 01:34:09,799
table explicitly. We

3643
01:34:09,934 --> 01:34:11,369
had said look at

3644
01:34:11,369 --> 01:34:12,871
annexing south. But now

3645
01:34:12,871 --> 01:34:13,438
hearing our of

3646
01:34:13,438 --> 01:34:14,272
community development

3647
01:34:14,272 --> 01:34:15,740
say, we don't have

3648
01:34:15,740 --> 01:34:16,774
much room, I want to be

3649
01:34:16,774 --> 01:34:18,643
explicit that we should

3650
01:34:18,643 --> 01:34:20,643
explore land swaps

3651
01:34:21,446 --> 01:34:22,313
with solano county. So

3652
01:34:22,313 --> 01:34:23,248
I wanted to see if my

3653
01:34:23,248 --> 01:34:23,815
fellow commissioners

3654
01:34:23,815 --> 01:34:25,815
were interested in

3655
01:34:25,817 --> 01:34:27,585
that. And then also if

3656
01:34:27,585 --> 01:34:28,253
they were any of the

3657
01:34:28,253 --> 01:34:29,354
transportation

3658
01:34:29,354 --> 01:34:29,821
commission

3659
01:34:29,821 --> 01:34:31,821
recommendations that

3660
01:34:32,991 --> 01:34:35,391
they wanted to second,

3661
01:34:37,328 --> 01:34:38,429
as we move forward.

3662
01:34:38,429 --> 01:34:39,797
>> I would make a

3663
01:34:39,797 --> 01:34:40,398
motion that as part of

3664
01:34:40,398 --> 01:34:42,398
the general plan

3665
01:34:43,468 --> 01:34:45,236
update process. Wi

3666
01:34:45,236 --> 01:34:47,380
vigorously examine the

3667
01:34:47,380 --> 01:34:48,172
potential for doing

3668
01:34:48,172 --> 01:34:50,172
swaps with solano

3669
01:34:57,148 --> 01:34:57,715
county.

3670
01:34:57,715 --> 01:34:58,549
>> do we need any

3671
01:34:58,549 --> 01:35:00,549
discussion? Are we

3672
01:35:04,288 --> 01:35:06,900
ready to

3673
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:07,225
>> got an exploration

3674
01:35:07,225 --> 01:35:08,659
exploration of that or

3675
01:35:08,659 --> 01:35:10,659
is that recommendation

3676
01:35:10,795 --> 01:35:12,563
that we do it I'm

3677
01:35:12,563 --> 01:35:13,998
asking that the issue

3678
01:35:13,998 --> 01:35:15,132
is correct, the

3679
01:35:15,132 --> 01:35:17,267
process of doing that

3680
01:35:17,267 --> 01:35:17,836
will take years and

3681
01:35:17,836 --> 01:35:19,503
maybe that's a

3682
01:35:19,503 --> 01:35:20,371
variable. Maybe it

3683
01:35:20,371 --> 01:35:21,239
isn't the other

3684
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:22,707
question is the cost

3685
01:35:22,707 --> 01:35:25,107
involved in that? I

3686
01:35:27,312 --> 01:35:27,979
mean certainly some

3687
01:35:27,979 --> 01:35:29,113
challenges to how much

3688
01:35:29,113 --> 01:35:30,248
money we actually do

3689
01:35:30,248 --> 01:35:31,316
have in our budget?

3690
01:35:31,316 --> 01:35:33,316
But that's another

3691
01:35:33,484 --> 01:35:35,586
question. So I would

3692
01:35:35,586 --> 01:35:37,388
I'd be for it if it

3693
01:35:37,388 --> 01:35:39,388
were contingent upon

3694
01:35:39,591 --> 01:35:40,458
some really good

3695
01:35:40,458 --> 01:35:42,458
understanding of what

3696
01:35:42,527 --> 01:35:43,930
that really means.

3697
01:35:43,930 --> 01:35:44,996
Because just to put it

3698
01:35:44,996 --> 01:35:46,960
in their without a

3699
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:47,532
deeper understanding

3700
01:35:47,532 --> 01:35:50,334
of how we go about

3701
01:35:50,334 --> 01:35:51,469
that. Maybe we should

3702
01:35:51,469 --> 01:35:52,570
have our thoughts

3703
01:35:52,570 --> 01:35:53,437
being focused on other

3704
01:35:53,437 --> 01:35:55,837
things rather than that

3705
01:35:56,875 --> 01:35:58,643
if in fact it's just

3706
01:35:58,643 --> 01:35:59,410
doesn't work. In

3707
01:35:59,410 --> 01:36:00,278
workplace. Within the

3708
01:36:00,278 --> 01:36:02,678
time frame. We'd like

3709
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,217
it to or it would be

3710
01:36:06,217 --> 01:36:07,317
such legislation and

3711
01:36:07,317 --> 01:36:07,918
various levels of

3712
01:36:07,918 --> 01:36:09,486
approval that would

3713
01:36:09,486 --> 01:36:10,922
take. As you said,

3714
01:36:10,922 --> 01:36:12,723
sherry literally years

3715
01:36:12,723 --> 01:36:13,290
for it to work and

3716
01:36:13,290 --> 01:36:14,158
maybe we're okay with

3717
01:36:14,158 --> 01:36:14,759
that. But I certainly

3718
01:36:14,759 --> 01:36:15,593
would like to know what

3719
01:36:15,593 --> 01:36:17,993
those are before we

3720
01:36:18,129 --> 01:36:18,896
jump into that

3721
01:36:18,896 --> 01:36:20,896
>> commissioner ro

3722
01:36:21,666 --> 01:36:22,766
recommended was land

3723
01:36:22,766 --> 01:36:24,766
swaps with solano

3724
01:36:25,369 --> 01:36:26,703
county.

3725
01:36:26,703 --> 01:36:27,472
>> maybe we just sit

3726
01:36:27,472 --> 01:36:27,939
investigate

3727
01:36:27,939 --> 01:36:29,939
feasibility a little

3728
01:36:29,973 --> 01:36:31,442
bit of next couple of

3729
01:36:31,442 --> 01:36:33,842
months and then we

3730
01:36:36,847 --> 01:36:37,581
find kind of sur

3731
01:36:37,581 --> 01:36:38,115
>> have any qestions

3732
01:36:38,115 --> 01:36:40,515
about this motion on

3733
01:36:40,784 --> 01:36:42,253
the table? No. All

3734
01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:43,688
right. Are we ready to

3735
01:36:43,688 --> 01:36:46,880
move it forward? All

3736
01:36:48,426 --> 01:36:50,826
right. All in favor?

3737
01:36:56,233 --> 01:36:58,233
.. I okay. Unanimous

3738
01:36:58,803 --> 01:36:59,903
support the the next

3739
01:36:59,903 --> 01:37:00,938
piece of this is do we

3740
01:37:00,938 --> 01:37:02,390
want to consider

3741
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:02,506
seconding any of the

3742
01:37:02,506 --> 01:37:03,841
recommendations from

3743
01:37:03,841 --> 01:37:05,841
the transportation

3744
01:37:08,879 --> 01:37:09,346
commission??

3745
01:37:09,346 --> 01:37:11,746
>> think I'd like to

3746
01:37:14,685 --> 01:37:15,519
hear them.

3747
01:37:15,519 --> 01:37:17,919
>> my notes aren't good

3748
01:37:20,570 --> 01:37:21,580
enough could I bother

3749
01:37:21,580 --> 01:37:22,159
commissioner posting

3750
01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:23,293
to come up and read

3751
01:37:23,293 --> 01:37:25,293
the recommendations

3752
01:37:28,666 --> 01:37:29,800
through to us?

3753
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,200
>> and do them slowly?

3754
01:37:32,603 --> 01:37:35,506
Some of us are old.

3755
01:37:35,506 --> 01:37:36,373
>> I am also pushing

3756
01:37:36,373 --> 01:37:37,708
the media to go slow.

3757
01:37:37,708 --> 01:37:38,743
I'll try. I was

3758
01:37:38,743 --> 01:37:39,877
working against public

3759
01:37:39,877 --> 01:37:40,477
comment in the time

3760
01:37:40,477 --> 01:37:42,877
that was allotted for

3761
01:37:44,882 --> 01:37:45,983
that. Two of them were

3762
01:37:45,983 --> 01:37:48,383
refinements of came to

3763
01:37:48,452 --> 01:37:49,920
planning before around

3764
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,387
mobility and also how

3765
01:37:51,387 --> 01:37:52,890
one gets across major

3766
01:37:52,890 --> 01:37:54,890
thoroughfares.

3767
01:37:54,925 --> 01:37:56,925
Separated crossings

3768
01:38:02,990 --> 01:38:02,900
there was I

3769
01:38:02,900 --> 01:38:03,467
recommendation to

3770
01:38:03,467 --> 01:38:04,668
prioritize targeted

3771
01:38:04,668 --> 01:38:05,836
dwelling units

3772
01:38:05,836 --> 01:38:07,137
increase with density

3773
01:38:07,137 --> 01:38:08,272
on the transit

3774
01:38:08,272 --> 01:38:08,873
corridors to. Four

3775
01:38:08,873 --> 01:38:11,273
stories of more or

3776
01:38:11,508 --> 01:38:12,643
more that is also in

3777
01:38:12,643 --> 01:38:13,210
to what the planning

3778
01:38:13,210 --> 01:38:14,779
commission had talked

3779
01:38:14,779 --> 01:38:16,779
about. These three.

3780
01:38:18,682 --> 01:38:19,315
Think, in effect we

3781
01:38:19,315 --> 01:38:20,584
talked about this idea

3782
01:38:20,584 --> 01:38:21,618
of developing

3783
01:38:21,618 --> 01:38:22,453
neighborhood shopping

3784
01:38:22,453 --> 01:38:23,353
centers for daily

3785
01:38:23,353 --> 01:38:24,822
needs. We said

3786
01:38:24,822 --> 01:38:25,956
groceries medical care

3787
01:38:25,956 --> 01:38:27,391
and other day to day.

3788
01:38:27,391 --> 01:38:28,225
This is around this.

3789
01:38:28,225 --> 01:38:29,493
This idea that you

3790
01:38:29,493 --> 01:38:30,961
want to put things

3791
01:38:30,961 --> 01:38:32,396
that people need

3792
01:38:32,396 --> 01:38:33,263
people live. So that

3793
01:38:33,263 --> 01:38:34,533
they have options to

3794
01:38:34,533 --> 01:38:35,399
not drive everywhere.

3795
01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:37,133
This not a mandate

3796
01:38:37,133 --> 01:38:38,100
that you cannot drive

3797
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:39,570
anywhere. It is just

3798
01:38:39,570 --> 01:38:41,970
to give people options

3799
01:38:46,410 --> 01:38:48,612
outside of the car we

3800
01:38:48,612 --> 01:38:50,470
we recommended to

3801
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:52,470
prioritize potential

3802
01:38:52,182 --> 01:38:53,217
greenfield sites. For

3803
01:38:53,217 --> 01:38:54,652
their proximity to

3804
01:38:54,652 --> 01:38:56,153
local trip generators.

3805
01:38:56,153 --> 01:38:58,689
If and when the city is

3806
01:38:58,689 --> 01:39:00,157
going to expand how

3807
01:39:00,157 --> 01:39:01,592
close you put that to

3808
01:39:01,592 --> 01:39:02,192
current trip

3809
01:39:02,192 --> 01:39:03,727
generators matters

3810
01:39:03,727 --> 01:39:04,595
from a transportation

3811
01:39:04,595 --> 01:39:05,496
perspective. If it's

3812
01:39:05,496 --> 01:39:06,997
further away, people

3813
01:39:06,997 --> 01:39:07,564
will drive or travel

3814
01:39:07,564 --> 01:39:09,990
more. If they travel

3815
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:10,567
to far they will

3816
01:39:10,567 --> 01:39:12,369
travel by car. That is

3817
01:39:12,369 --> 01:39:14,369
the philosophy behind

3818
01:39:16,273 --> 01:39:17,741
that.. We added a

3819
01:39:17,741 --> 01:39:18,475
note of caution from a

3820
01:39:18,475 --> 01:39:20,475
transportation

3821
01:39:21,745 --> 01:39:22,746
perspective on the

3822
01:39:22,746 --> 01:39:23,347
expansion south of

3823
01:39:23,347 --> 01:39:24,614
bank, and I think I

3824
01:39:24,614 --> 01:39:25,682
heard direct metzger

3825
01:39:25,682 --> 01:39:26,183
also articulate

3826
01:39:26,183 --> 01:39:28,218
concerns on, you know,

3827
01:39:28,218 --> 01:39:30,320
there is a bottleneck.

3828
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,320
Transportation. There

3829
01:39:33,924 --> 01:39:36,826
we from a purely land

3830
01:39:36,826 --> 01:39:38,826
use perspective. Put

3831
01:39:39,296 --> 01:39:41,232
back put further there

3832
01:39:41,232 --> 01:39:43,000
is a corner on the

3833
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,000
campus. Current campus

3834
01:39:45,102 --> 01:39:47,237
land that for a

3835
01:39:47,237 --> 01:39:49,237
proximity to downtown

3836
01:39:49,506 --> 01:39:50,841
to existing schools.

3837
01:39:50,841 --> 01:39:53,241
Is a location that

3838
01:39:54,845 --> 01:39:56,980
would be remiss to not

3839
01:39:56,980 --> 01:39:58,810
explore try to. Some of

3840
01:39:58,810 --> 01:39:59,182
the floodplain issues

3841
01:39:59,182 --> 01:40:01,582
that have been coming

3842
01:40:01,685 --> 01:40:02,352
up in the community.

3843
01:40:02,352 --> 01:40:02,953
There is an

3844
01:40:02,953 --> 01:40:04,922
administrative barrier

3845
01:40:04,922 --> 01:40:05,422
there

3846
01:40:05,422 --> 01:40:05,923
>> specific about what

3847
01:40:05,923 --> 01:40:06,690
you're talking about.

3848
01:40:06,690 --> 01:40:06,990
>> yeah, I'm talking

3849
01:40:06,990 --> 01:40:07,824
about

3850
01:40:07,824 --> 01:40:09,293
>> there is a whole

3851
01:40:09,293 --> 01:40:09,760
corner next to the one,

3852
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:10,727
two of two next to

3853
01:40:10,727 --> 01:40:11,328
russell. That is wde

3854
01:40:11,328 --> 01:40:12,529
open land. That is ag

3855
01:40:12,529 --> 01:40:14,297
land right now. It is

3856
01:40:14,297 --> 01:40:15,165
not but it's right

3857
01:40:15,165 --> 01:40:16,990
next to a bunch of

3858
01:40:16,990 --> 01:40:17,100
freeway access. And

3859
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:17,734
it's right next to

3860
01:40:17,734 --> 01:40:18,969
downtown. And it's

3861
01:40:18,969 --> 01:40:21,369
right next to campus.

3862
01:40:21,838 --> 01:40:22,940
If you looked at the

3863
01:40:22,940 --> 01:40:24,708
one.

3864
01:40:24,708 --> 01:40:25,375
>> 113 in russell or

3865
01:40:25,375 --> 01:40:25,709
113 in health

3866
01:40:25,709 --> 01:40:26,843
sciences.

3867
01:40:26,843 --> 01:40:28,311
>> no. One. 13 in

3868
01:40:28,311 --> 01:40:29,790
russell, this is the

3869
01:40:29,790 --> 01:40:31,790
corner of 113 and

3870
01:40:31,882 --> 01:40:33,317
russell if you looked

3871
01:40:33,317 --> 01:40:34,785
at the campus and the

3872
01:40:34,785 --> 01:40:35,886
city as one unit,

3873
01:40:35,886 --> 01:40:36,486
which most residents,

3874
01:40:36,486 --> 01:40:38,550
you know, go back and

3875
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:39,790
forth all the time.

3876
01:40:39,790 --> 01:40:41,258
That is a location

3877
01:40:41,258 --> 01:40:42,359
that's from a purely

3878
01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:42,726
land use. And

3879
01:40:42,726 --> 01:40:43,827
transportation

3880
01:40:43,827 --> 01:40:45,827
planning makes a

3881
01:40:47,397 --> 01:40:47,998
sense. And we seem to

3882
01:40:47,998 --> 01:40:48,832
the recommendations

3883
01:40:48,832 --> 01:40:50,832
for transportation was

3884
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,571
to not not let that go

3885
01:40:54,571 --> 01:40:56,390
unexplored. And then we

3886
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:57,140
made a general

3887
01:40:57,140 --> 01:40:58,575
recommendation to this

3888
01:40:58,575 --> 01:40:59,443
is separate separate

3889
01:40:59,443 --> 01:41:00,711
from the, hey, do we

3890
01:41:00,711 --> 01:41:01,812
annex who does it

3891
01:41:01,812 --> 01:41:02,946
matter who develops

3892
01:41:02,946 --> 01:41:05,382
it? If that location is

3893
01:41:05,382 --> 01:41:06,490
a perfect location or a

3894
01:41:06,490 --> 01:41:07,884
better location than

3895
01:41:07,884 --> 01:41:09,884
any other locations.

3896
01:41:12,556 --> 01:41:13,690
So housing and then we

3897
01:41:13,690 --> 01:41:15,157
talked about how we

3898
01:41:15,157 --> 01:41:16,159
benchmarked success of

3899
01:41:16,159 --> 01:41:17,961
transportation.

3900
01:41:17,961 --> 01:41:19,830
Networks. For their

3901
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:20,397
ability to be

3902
01:41:20,397 --> 01:41:21,632
accessible to young

3903
01:41:21,632 --> 01:41:22,966
people, to old people,

3904
01:41:22,966 --> 01:41:24,133
to people who. Might

3905
01:41:24,133 --> 01:41:25,869
not have access to

3906
01:41:25,869 --> 01:41:27,337
cars inclusive as

3907
01:41:27,337 --> 01:41:27,971
possible. And

3908
01:41:27,971 --> 01:41:29,971
implement policy goals

3909
01:41:30,273 --> 01:41:32,420
to reduce vehicle

3910
01:41:32,420 --> 01:41:33,143
ownerships and again,

3911
01:41:33,143 --> 01:41:34,100
these were transmitted

3912
01:41:34,100 --> 01:41:34,944
to staff. And I was

3913
01:41:34,944 --> 01:41:35,512
told they were

3914
01:41:35,512 --> 01:41:37,414
transmitted to

3915
01:41:37,414 --> 01:41:38,140
planning. Week ago. So

3916
01:41:38,140 --> 01:41:39,216
the only reason why

3917
01:41:39,216 --> 01:41:39,649
this came up now,

3918
01:41:39,649 --> 01:41:41,649
because they were

3919
01:41:41,784 --> 01:41:43,887
family, had not been

3920
01:41:43,887 --> 01:41:44,988
came to listen not to

3921
01:41:44,988 --> 01:41:46,220
participate

3922
01:41:46,220 --> 01:41:48,220
>> for participating.

3923
01:41:49,259 --> 01:41:50,393
Nonetheless fellow

3924
01:41:50,393 --> 01:41:51,862
commissioners, any of

3925
01:41:51,862 --> 01:41:53,262
those recommendations

3926
01:41:53,262 --> 01:41:55,262
for transportation

3927
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,200
commission would like

3928
01:41:59,469 --> 01:42:01,469
to second.

3929
01:42:02,672 --> 01:42:03,239
>> to be walker

3930
01:42:03,239 --> 01:42:05,175
progress here, but I

3931
01:42:05,175 --> 01:42:06,420
prefer to see writing

3932
01:42:06,420 --> 01:42:07,277
and have some chance

3933
01:42:07,277 --> 01:42:09,277
to contemplate them

3934
01:42:09,513 --> 01:42:11,648
and perhaps then be in

3935
01:42:11,648 --> 01:42:13,116
the staff report

3936
01:42:13,116 --> 01:42:14,851
rolling over to OCTOBER

3937
01:42:14,851 --> 01:42:17,851
28th. I just I respond

3938
01:42:18,822 --> 01:42:20,257
better to more.

3939
01:42:20,257 --> 01:42:20,857
>> I concur. I prefer

3940
01:42:20,857 --> 01:42:23,857
to see it fleshed out

3941
01:42:24,261 --> 01:42:26,363
in black and white. I

3942
01:42:26,363 --> 01:42:27,831
don't recall seen it.

3943
01:42:27,831 --> 01:42:28,965
I mean, I guess it was

3944
01:42:28,965 --> 01:42:30,800
conveyed to staff made

3945
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:31,768
its way into any that I

3946
01:42:31,768 --> 01:42:33,570
know has been provided

3947
01:42:33,570 --> 01:42:33,970
to us.

3948
01:42:33,970 --> 01:42:35,400
>> samantha and

3949
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:35,571
sherry. Could we

3950
01:42:35,571 --> 01:42:37,540
request tat we have

3951
01:42:37,540 --> 01:42:38,141
the transportation

3952
01:42:38,141 --> 01:42:40,430
recommendations in

3953
01:42:40,430 --> 01:42:41,144
writing before our

3954
01:42:41,144 --> 01:42:43,144
next meeting in

3955
01:42:45,515 --> 01:42:46,349
OCTOBER believe you're

3956
01:42:46,349 --> 01:42:47,617
supposed to get all of

3957
01:42:47,617 --> 01:42:49,617
them. At

3958
01:42:51,555 --> 01:42:53,230
>> your next in

3959
01:42:53,230 --> 01:42:53,590
>> I

3960
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:54,157
>> for some reason,

3961
01:42:54,157 --> 01:42:54,991
don't have.

3962
01:42:54,991 --> 01:42:56,991
>> that note hndy,

3963
01:42:57,727 --> 01:42:58,294
but I seeing it

3964
01:42:58,294 --> 01:42:59,830
somewhere that that

3965
01:42:59,830 --> 01:43:00,963
was the idea was we

3966
01:43:00,963 --> 01:43:02,650
would get all the

3967
01:43:02,650 --> 01:43:03,500
feedback from all the

3968
01:43:03,500 --> 01:43:05,500
commissions and that

3969
01:43:07,771 --> 01:43:08,872
we would have that..

3970
01:43:08,872 --> 01:43:09,472
>> okay, that sounds

3971
01:43:09,472 --> 01:43:10,674
great. We will wait

3972
01:43:10,674 --> 01:43:12,108
until our next meeting

3973
01:43:12,108 --> 01:43:12,975
and we will prolong

3974
01:43:12,975 --> 01:43:13,910
our general plan

3975
01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:15,378
update conversation

3976
01:43:15,378 --> 01:43:15,945
about recommendations

3977
01:43:15,945 --> 01:43:17,480
and considering what

3978
01:43:17,480 --> 01:43:18,810
we might. Second, I

3979
01:43:18,810 --> 01:43:18,948
have to say, I'm

3980
01:43:18,948 --> 01:43:19,315
surprised the

3981
01:43:19,315 --> 01:43:20,830
transportation

3982
01:43:20,830 --> 01:43:21,830
commission didn't

3983
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:22,885
mention exploring car

3984
01:43:22,885 --> 01:43:23,453
free neighborhoods. So

3985
01:43:23,453 --> 01:43:25,453
maybe that's something

3986
01:43:28,691 --> 01:43:30,126
we can add not doing it

3987
01:43:30,126 --> 01:43:31,595
with that. I think

3988
01:43:31,595 --> 01:43:33,363
we're going to close

3989
01:43:33,363 --> 01:43:35,363
our general plan

3990
01:43:35,498 --> 01:43:37,498
update agenda item

3991
01:43:38,401 --> 01:43:40,537
with no actions. And

3992
01:43:40,537 --> 01:43:41,671
turn it over to sherry

3993
01:43:41,671 --> 01:43:44,710
for the long range

3994
01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:46,440
calendar.

3995
01:43:46,710 --> 01:43:48,144
>> okay. Again. Sherry

3996
01:43:48,144 --> 01:43:50,144
metzger development

3997
01:43:50,613 --> 01:43:53,130
director. Okay, so the

3998
01:43:53,182 --> 01:43:53,750
as you know, now we

3999
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:55,985
down to one meeting a

4000
01:43:55,985 --> 01:43:57,860
month. And your other

4001
01:43:57,860 --> 01:43:59,990
meeting is a sort of an

4002
01:43:59,990 --> 01:44:02,390
on call meeting for

4003
01:44:02,458 --> 01:44:04,260
OCTOBER are going to

4004
01:44:04,260 --> 01:44:05,728
use the first

4005
01:44:05,728 --> 01:44:07,163
wednesday to do the

4006
01:44:07,163 --> 01:44:09,563
public workshop for the

4007
01:44:09,765 --> 01:44:10,666
general plan update

4008
01:44:10,666 --> 01:44:11,501
again, as I said, that

4009
01:44:11,501 --> 01:44:13,901
will be held at

4010
01:44:14,300 --> 01:44:14,871
veterans memorial and

4011
01:44:14,871 --> 01:44:16,573
the public will be

4012
01:44:16,573 --> 01:44:18,973
invited to that one.

4013
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:21,243
So on OCTOBER the 28th,

4014
01:44:21,243 --> 01:44:22,112
we will be again.

4015
01:44:22,112 --> 01:44:23,713
Discuss the general

4016
01:44:23,713 --> 01:44:25,181
plan update. We will

4017
01:44:25,181 --> 01:44:25,781
also bring forward an

4018
01:44:25,781 --> 01:44:27,317
ordinance amendments

4019
01:44:27,317 --> 01:44:29,717
that relate to sb

4020
01:44:30,186 --> 01:44:31,530
nine. And chapter 40

4021
01:44:31,530 --> 01:44:33,530
amendments that relate

4022
01:44:33,121 --> 01:44:34,591
to mobile vending.

4023
01:44:34,591 --> 01:44:35,658
That will ultimately

4024
01:44:35,658 --> 01:44:36,225
be. Both of those two

4025
01:44:36,225 --> 01:44:38,225
items will ultimately

4026
01:44:39,295 --> 01:44:40,697
go forward to city

4027
01:44:40,697 --> 01:44:42,697
council. Probably in

4028
01:44:42,865 --> 01:44:45,265
NOVEMBER and. Sb or

4029
01:44:45,301 --> 01:44:46,803
longer, but anyway

4030
01:44:46,803 --> 01:44:48,204
then in NOVEMBER. As

4031
01:44:48,204 --> 01:44:50,604
the way the calendar

4032
01:44:51,774 --> 01:44:53,774
fell wednesdays fell

4033
01:44:54,343 --> 01:44:55,812
on holiday days. First

4034
01:44:55,812 --> 01:44:56,412
one being veterans day

4035
01:44:56,412 --> 01:44:57,613
and the second one

4036
01:44:57,613 --> 01:44:59,381
being the night before

4037
01:44:59,381 --> 01:45:01,381
thanksgiving. So there

4038
01:45:01,517 --> 01:45:03,917
will be no the

4039
01:45:04,420 --> 01:45:05,521
planning commission or

4040
01:45:05,521 --> 01:45:07,521
general plan meetings

4041
01:45:08,230 --> 01:45:09,792
in NOVEMBER and then

4042
01:45:09,792 --> 01:45:11,260
we hope to have the

4043
01:45:11,260 --> 01:45:12,362
general plan cmmittee

4044
01:45:12,362 --> 01:45:13,396
meeting in lieu of

4045
01:45:13,396 --> 01:45:15,396
planning commission

4046
01:45:15,598 --> 01:45:17,400
meeting on DECEMBER.

4047
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:18,100
The ninth. No second

4048
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:18,667
meeting and no

4049
01:45:18,667 --> 01:45:20,270
DECEMBER, because

4050
01:45:20,270 --> 01:45:22,270
again, it falls.

4051
01:45:22,472 --> 01:45:23,873
before christmas eve. I

4052
01:45:23,873 --> 01:45:24,474
think so we aren't

4053
01:45:24,474 --> 01:45:25,675
likely to get very

4054
01:45:25,675 --> 01:45:26,542
good attendance, so we

4055
01:45:26,542 --> 01:45:28,177
will just simply

4056
01:45:28,177 --> 01:45:30,130
cancel that and so

4057
01:45:30,130 --> 01:45:30,713
that makes your first

4058
01:45:30,713 --> 01:45:33,113
meeting in the new

4059
01:45:33,282 --> 01:45:35,840
year, JANUARY 27th.

4060
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:36,852
And at this point we

4061
01:45:36,852 --> 01:45:37,687
have on that agenda is

4062
01:45:37,687 --> 01:45:38,955
more general plan

4063
01:45:38,955 --> 01:45:39,622
update I think you're

4064
01:45:39,622 --> 01:45:40,756
probably from this

4065
01:45:40,756 --> 01:45:41,623
point on, just going

4066
01:45:41,623 --> 01:45:44,623
to have it all the

4067
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,160
time. Because we are

4068
01:45:48,397 --> 01:45:50,833
we are in it now. And

4069
01:45:50,833 --> 01:45:52,301
.. Possibly a meeting

4070
01:45:52,301 --> 01:45:53,690
on the historic

4071
01:45:53,690 --> 01:45:55,690
resources and training

4072
01:45:55,872 --> 01:45:57,600
for that. And we I know

4073
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,406
we have some other

4074
01:45:59,909 --> 01:46:02,909
pending that we need to

4075
01:46:07,850 --> 01:46:09,652
scheduled as well

4076
01:46:09,652 --> 01:46:10,253
>> this OCTOBER 28th

4077
01:46:10,253 --> 01:46:10,753
meeting is going to be

4078
01:46:10,753 --> 01:46:12,121
a big one for us. It's

4079
01:46:12,121 --> 01:46:13,256
going to be our last

4080
01:46:13,256 --> 01:46:15,656
major year we're gonna

4081
01:46:15,691 --> 01:46:17,893
try to MARCH through

4082
01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:18,361
scores of you know

4083
01:46:18,361 --> 01:46:20,361
recommendations, try

4084
01:46:20,730 --> 01:46:22,164
to aopt them as policy

4085
01:46:22,164 --> 01:46:23,299
commission if there's

4086
01:46:23,299 --> 01:46:24,733
any possibility of

4087
01:46:24,733 --> 01:46:27,133
bringing us to at

4088
01:46:27,236 --> 01:46:28,671
least a staff report

4089
01:46:28,671 --> 01:46:30,106
in that portion of the

4090
01:46:30,106 --> 01:46:30,673
agenda before the

4091
01:46:30,673 --> 01:46:32,240
thursday before the

4092
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:33,676
friday before that

4093
01:46:33,676 --> 01:46:35,478
would be very helpful

4094
01:46:35,478 --> 01:46:36,780
because I think if

4095
01:46:36,780 --> 01:46:37,713
everybody's had time

4096
01:46:37,713 --> 01:46:38,180
to consider all the

4097
01:46:38,180 --> 01:46:40,180
recommendations that

4098
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:41,817
are flowing in for to

4099
01:46:41,817 --> 01:46:43,817
move more efficiently

4100
01:46:45,221 --> 01:46:46,322
through the material

4101
01:46:46,322 --> 01:46:47,423
>> and then the

4102
01:46:47,423 --> 01:46:48,230
environmental justice

4103
01:46:48,230 --> 01:46:48,557
commission also has

4104
01:46:48,557 --> 01:46:49,591
their meeting with

4105
01:46:49,591 --> 01:46:51,360
they're discussing

4106
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:52,829
general plan updates.

4107
01:46:52,829 --> 01:46:53,462
Upcoming

4108
01:46:53,462 --> 01:46:54,262
>> I understand. Yes.

4109
01:46:54,262 --> 01:46:54,831
>> so that might be

4110
01:46:54,831 --> 01:46:56,650
something to put on

4111
01:46:56,650 --> 01:46:56,932
your calendar. And

4112
01:46:56,932 --> 01:46:57,834
attend to. Listen in

4113
01:46:57,834 --> 01:46:59,268
person and hear how

4114
01:46:59,268 --> 01:47:00,136
the discussion goes

4115
01:47:00,136 --> 01:47:01,771
and I misspoke

4116
01:47:01,771 --> 01:47:02,238
earlier. We did have

4117
01:47:02,238 --> 01:47:03,205
one motion with our

4118
01:47:03,205 --> 01:47:05,700
general plan update. It

4119
01:47:05,700 --> 01:47:05,608
was annexing and land

4120
01:47:05,608 --> 01:47:07,209
swap with solano

4121
01:47:07,209 --> 01:47:09,609
county just for the

4122
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,147
record. Any further

4123
01:47:11,147 --> 01:47:12,581
comments? No. All

4124
01:47:12,581 --> 01:47:13,149
right. With that, I

4125
01:47:13,149 --> 01:47:15,830
adjourn our planning

4126
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:17,830
commission meeting you