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Good morning everyone and welcome to the
regular meeting of city council for

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Monday August 24th 2026. The city of
Dawson Creek acknowledges that we are

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privileged to live and work on treaty
territory and the traditional home of

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the cre daz stoy and enslavey first
nations. We value the matei peoples that

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live and gather here. We commit to
upholding a respectful relationships

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these nations have built with the land
and we acknowledge our responsibility to

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carry that forward today and into the
future. Um, next order of business, two

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delegations, 2.1, we have Shelby Halley
and Blake Johnson and Janice Anderson,

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residents of Dawson Creek in attendance,
uh, for proclamation to declare

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September 2026 as craniois
awareness month in Dawson Creek.

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» I didn't hear you. Sorry.
>> Did I do that? All right. Don't worry,

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you'll hear it seven more times. So,
yeah. Morning. Hi.

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» How are you doing?
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I will just read this out here. Um, so
craniointosis.

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Did I do good? Yeah. Awareness month. I
have Janice up here not just for the

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proclamation but to help me uh with my
speaking as well. So uh whereas cranio

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synitosis is a medical condition in
which one one or more of the sutures in

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an infant skull close too early which
may affect normal skull and brain

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growth. And whereas craniointosis
affects approximately 1 in 2500 infants

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and and increased awareness can help
support early recognition, diagnosis,

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treatment and family family support. And
whereas early recognition and treatment

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can help reduce the risk of serious
health complications including increased

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pressure inside the skull, vision
problems, and learning or physical

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delays. And whereas craniointosis
awareness month provides an opportunity

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opportunity to increase public
understanding of this condition and to

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recognize the experience
experiences of children, parents,

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caregivers, and families in our
community and beyond. And whereas

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raising awareness helps promote
education as well as compassion and

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support for those impacted by
craniotosis.

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Um I now therefore I Darcy Dober, mayor
of the city of Dawson Creek, do hereby

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proclaim September 2026 as craniosis
awareness month in the city of Dawson

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Creek and encourage all citizens to join
me in this worthy observance. So

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» yeah,
>> great job.

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» Yeah, thank you. Unironically, the
literacy society's up next.

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» Yeah, [laughter]

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» it was like a chest for me. I was
[laughter] like,

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» "Here, I got you a little something."
>> Oh, baby.

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» There's a little stuff in there. If you
want to give one of them to your sister,

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I'll let you pick which one. And then
there's some stuff in there. But do you

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want to give one of those to your
sister?

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» Yeah.
>> Which one do you want to give to her?

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» Say thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» You're welcome. And this is for you,
too.

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» Say thank you. Thank you.
>> You're welcome. Was there anything that

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you wanted to say?
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» there is a mic here.
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[laughter]

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» So, cranioinistosis is quite rare. Um,
Blakes is the only one that we know of

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here in Dawson Creek at this point. Uh,
she had sagittal cranioinistosis. So,

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her suture from her soft spot back was
fused um at birth. So she has had

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surgery at 14 and a half weeks. Y
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» and uh so she has a wide strip of her
skull is missing um to allow proper

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brain brain development. Um she's doing
really well. Uh she's just graduated

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from her helmet. She was in two helmets
throughout the uh treatment plan. um

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kids had to make 14 roundtrip trip trip
round trips to Edmonton for checkups and

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uh
thank you. So yeah, so we're just uh

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hoping that to bring some awareness so
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» um catch it early.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Hers wasn't caught till 3

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months.
>> Oh yeah.

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» So um yeah, the earlier the better.
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» She had she was able to have the
non-invasive or minimally invasive

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surgery. Um whereas the other one is
they actually open their skull from ear

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to ear and remove pieces of their skull,
reshaped them and put them back in.

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» Yeah.
>> So thankfully she didn't have to have

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that surgery. But
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» Yeah. Well, thank you for coming in and
thank you for like bringing attention to

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this too. I know just from Janice too
like what you guys have went through and

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I could not imagine. So it's
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and smiling
>> and a little scared of me. [laughter]

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» Yeah.
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You're welcome. I think we got to get a
You want to get a picture? Can we get a

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picture together?
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» one00.

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» And so she she doesn't need to wear
those anymore.

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August 12th was her last day.
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» Yeah. 6 months. Exactly.
>> And then do you have to go back for

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checkups every
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and then go yearly until she's about
five. So they can monitor

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» just to make sure it continues to like
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» Yeah. And then obviously like that part
that they cut out will grow back over at

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one point. Yes.
>> Eventually they were they basically told

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us that it should.
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And then they'll just put mesh over
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» And can I ask question?
>> Yeah, go ahead.

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» Um, so is is that something when you're
doing the um pre the nal appointments

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with the the doctor? That's part of the
standardized screening or is that part

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of
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that kind of happened. Um, she was
breached. So I think what happened was

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then her head was at the top of the
uterus. It signaled her brain to protect

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itself and closed.
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» Yeah.
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» is it I'm just wondering, you know, with
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» basically
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check at.
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because after her first appointment, I
talked to her doctor and they put

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together a whole uh pamphlet with uh
pictures and things to watch for

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» because it was the shape of her head
that concerned me, but no one had ever

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heard of it or seen it. thought like,
oh, her head will go back to normal,

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don't go back to normal. And it never
did. So then her follow appointment was

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when it
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doctor has never seen it in Canada.
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cool. Well, that's

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» a picture.

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» Awesome.

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» [laughter]
>> It's hard to say.

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» I know. I like

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having trouble.

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» Thanks. Nice meeting. Thank you.

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» Yeah, I'm going to ask you how to spell
it. That's or

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» um All right. Uh next order business
2.2, we have Michelle Moy, executive

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director with the Dawson Creek Literacy
Society in attendance regarding

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proclamation to declare September 20 26
as literacy month in Dawson Creek. So,

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» you want to just start off spelling it
or is that what somebody's going to ask

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you that? So,
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» back? [laughter]

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» All right. Uh, whereas literacy month is
recognized across British Columbia

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during September. And whereas literacy
is essential for Canadians to succeed in

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today's complex world as it extends
beyond beyond reading and writing. And

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whereas engaging children and youth in
literacy programming provides the best

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possible environment for them to become
lifelong learners. And whereas strong

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literacy skills are vital to Canada's
social and economic development,

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offering everyone the opportunity to
contribute to the education, growth, and

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prosperity of our nation as well as the
well-being of our communities. And

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whereas the 2026 literacy month theme,
your gift, their next chapter,

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highlights the important role that
literacy and community support support

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play in creating opportunities for
learning and growth. And whereas many

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organizations across British Columbia in
Canada, including the Dawson Creek

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Literacy Society, demonstrate their
commitment to literacy by fostering a

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culture of community- based learning.
Now therefore, I, Darcy Dober, mayor of

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the city of Dawson Creek, do hereby
proclaim September 26 as literacy month

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in the city of Dawson Creek and
encourage all citizens to join me in

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this worthy observance. So, yeah, thanks
Michelle for coming in. It's always a

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pleasure to have you here and
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» Yeah. Was there some things that you
wanted to share?

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» Uh,
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» yes and no.
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that there's
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but
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are online listening. Yeah. the um
September being literacy month, the

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color is purple.
Our mayor remembered and [snorts] he

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wore a purple tie. And I really
appreciate that because I was in a hurry

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this morning. We have five clients, uh
five citizens of Dawson Creek who are

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becoming citizens of Canada this
morning. So, I was in a bit of a rush

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getting out of the house. So, I
appreciate that you wore some purple. Um

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just on the note of lifelong learning um
if anybody is interested in knowing

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where some of our literacy gaps are here
in our own community um it is with folks

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over the age of 50 60 digital literacy
is huge. Everything has moved online

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your government services your
applications

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and a lot of people just a don't have
the skills or b don't have the

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technology. Um, so I'll leave that with
you and your connections and talk about

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what you can do to help people in our
community. So, thank you so much.

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» Thank you, Michelle. And not to take any
credit for the purple tie, but last year

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for this proclamation,
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knowing. And Michelle told me that it
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» you knew.
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today I did. I was like, "Oh, yeah.
There's a color for it." I had to look

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it up. So, but um yeah, and just yeah, I
thank you for what you do. I I know um

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uh this city and this council is very
grateful for the literacy society and

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what you do to help those um individuals
that that need the support and help and

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yeah, so just really thank you to
everybody. So, you're welcome. We'll

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just sign this

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up here for a picture. I was actually
thinking because this is my last

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» Thanks so much.

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» All the best.
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» um All right. Uh next 2.3 we have Taylor
Mills outgoing executive director and

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Thomas Taylor the incoming executive
director with the s Southpiece art

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society in attendance uh regarding
annual update to council. So

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» good morning Taylor and Thomas
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had me a little bit confused with the
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» Thomas and then Taylor's first name.
>> Lot of aliteration going on right now

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around the gallery. Yeah. [laughter]
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So,
>> yeah, thank you very much. Um, so yeah,

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I'm Thomas Taylor. Um, for anybody that
didn't know me already, uh, really happy

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to be joining the team, but yeah, I'll
start um with, uh, with a message from

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our board chair here. Um, so it's, uh,
Amanda Fawsome, who was just, um, voted

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in our last board meeting as the new
president. Um, so as the new president

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of the South Peace Art Society, I first
want to acknowledge the privilege our

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group has operating uh the Dawson Creek
Art Gallery in the most iconic Green

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Elevator. Its influence and I do
apologize to the farming community

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causes my daughters to call all green
elevators art galleries. I personally

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know how difficult it can be uh to be an
artist in this world. Uh so to live in a

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city that provides everything the Dawson
Creek Art Gallery has to offer is a

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luxury that not many uh get to
experience. As a board, uh we are

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continuously grateful for the city's
financial generosity and encouragement.

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It helps us create opportunities for
professional artists in our area and

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nurture the most important creatives,
our youth. Our board is comprised of

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artists and community professionals uh
with their experience on board being a

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valuable range uh from multiple years to
just one month. As we say farewell to

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our previous executive executive
director, Taylor Mills, we're pleased to

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introduce um our new ED, which would be
myself. Uh, I encourage anyone listening

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to pop into the gallery and say hello.
Lastly, I'd like to thank Tamara

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Golinsky for her past years as the board
president. I fear I have some big shoes

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to fill, but thankfully she's not going
anywhere. We look forward to continuing

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to serve the art community for years to
come. Until next time, Amanda Fawsome.

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So, that is a message from her. Um, and
then I have a message from myself as

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well. Uh, just short and sweet. I'm
honored and excited to be joining the

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Southpace Art Society as the new
executive director. I look forward to

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continuing uh build continue building
upon and fostering the valuable

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relationships within the community and
with the city of Dawson Creek.

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Um now I have just a brief overview and
an intro to the gallery structure. Uh so

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what we do, we love fostering lifelong
relationships with the arts and building

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artistic literacy. Um it's key to
helping people love where they live and

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celebrate the beauty and depth of the
Southpiece. Um and a couple categories

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that help with that. So uh the curation
of exhibits uh the art gallery curates

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and displays many exhibits across the
year and presents them to the public.

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Behind this is our season curator uh kit
fast. Uh we have our youth programming

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sector. A variety of different youth
programs are offered to the community

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serving our community's youth in an
inclusive creative learning environment.

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Um Amanda Eny is uh the uh she oversees
the operations um in that uh sort of

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sector. And then we have our consignment
and gift shop uh which is an eclectic

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collection of mostly local regional
practicing artisans and craft makers um

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that we have available for the public to
see and that is overseen by uh the

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administrative assistant that we have
Gwen Hawkins. And uh lastly uh we have

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our framing department uh so custom
framing department assistance for the

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public and artisans alike um uh with any
of their framing needs and that is done

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by page 14.

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Um, so now it's just uh some events and
activities that we have uh that we had

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throughout the summer that I'm kind of
just joining on to that I can speak to a

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little bit here. So we have the art
auction. So art works and uh stuff like

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that that go on uh and they're bid on uh
during live bidding periods. It serves

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as a major fundraiser to support our
exhibitions, educational programs, and

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outreach. Um our youth membership show
um that's one that I'm excited to be a

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part of coming up. It's a beautiful
event where youth members from across

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the Peace region uh have their artwork
on display and parents and and kiddos

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alike from all across the peace region
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collaborative event done with the
Quantis Performing Arts Center serving

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as a celebration of Indigenous Day. Um
the summer membership show uh our

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members displayed a wide range of
artistic practices. We're actually just

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taking it down today and transitioning
into a new one, but it was beautiful. a

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great time for me to join the gallery.
It was lots of really nice stuff in

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there. Um and then our artwalk
expansion, so temporary pop-up exhibits

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across the Peace Region um at local
businesses and partners and stuff like

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that. Uh we have exhibitions uh across
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St. John, Hudson's Hope, and Cetwin.
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Rock the Block, which we wrapped up this
weekend. It was our second of two that

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we ran there. Um, and that was also in
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Performing Arts Center. Um, where we
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the parking lot of the art gallery and,
uh, had free entry for the public and

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stuff like that. It was lots of fun.
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organizational partners that we would
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gallery continues to welcome uh, and
celebrate uh, all kinds of different

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collaborations within the community. Uh
prominent partnerships so far this year

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um have been the Quantis Performing Arts
Center, Nakin, uh the Southpace Arts

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Council, Co-op Dawson Creek, uh various
local businesses uh uh participating,

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pardon me, in ArtW Walk 2026, and
proudly also the city of Dawson Creek as

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well there.
And then a couple highlights and

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accomplishments, the new president and
uh executive director, kind of a tandem

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segue into both of us. We've got some
big shoes to fill. Um but uh yeah, we're

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super excited for the opportunity to be
joining the team. Um the youth

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exhibition is uh is one to highlight. We
had 150 attendees this year. Um and it

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was something special from what I've
heard. So yeah, like I said, I'm really

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excited to be a part of that. The city
of Dawson Creek uh we were able to

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increase our funding um to support our
mission to deliver arts and culture uh

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to the community in an inclusive um and
welcoming sort of environment. So very

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thankful for that. And then the youth
artist mentorship program, a new and

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exciting uh program that we're kind of
introducing that I'm ready um to kind of

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get behind. Um but it's something to
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us.
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as we move deeper into 2026 and begin
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focus um for us at the gallery is our
youth programs and stuff like that and

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continuing to flourish in that regard. I
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think that fostering youth is fostering
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I think arts and culture is uh of utmost
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of the future and what that's going to
look like. So having youth uh get proper

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access to it is very important to me and
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the Dawson Creek Art Gallery as a whole.
And then uh we're kind of segue I'll let

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Taylor speak to this um but we're going
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murals and stuff like that that we have
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» Yeah. So this was really exciting. We
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of behind over the past couple years. So
I do apologize about that, but we should

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be back on track this year. So I'm going
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the third one is still underway. And
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in the year once we finish it. We'll
come back and chat about it and show you

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what that looks like. But at this time,
we have a brand new mural on the dollar

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store with more that was done by Kaylee
Oldershaw. It is up and finished and

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it's quite beautiful. It's a piece of
the piece uh here in Dawson Creek and we

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collaborated with the owners to come up
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they came up with. Um, but if you know
Kayle's pieces, she does a really great

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job with the scenery and kind of like a
warm, welcoming feel. It's in a really

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nice place downtown. So, if you haven't
taken a look, go down, have some

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pictures. It's quite beautiful. And then
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mural renovated and fixed. So, we had to
pull down the wood and get that all

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done, but uh that was done by Tegan
Skin. uh she is um an indigenous artist

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in the community and she focused on uh
specific

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um insects and berries of the region and
then specifically what she did with the

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the the wings here is that so people can
stand in the center of it and get their

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picture taken. Um we've seen a lot of
great comments online in regards to

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these murals and they had a very fun
time doing it as well. The third mural

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that we're doing is on Iron Heads and
that's going to be done by Paige Forte,

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which I'm sure you're all familiar with.
It is going to have a few different

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musicians on it. So, we had to get Paige
on that job because she's really good

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with doing human features. It is going
to be quite lovely when it's done. We do

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promise that we're going to work very
diligently to get it done before the end

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of September because the weather seems
to be decent these days. Um, but just

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keeping that in mind, we should have the
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by the end of September. But we'll keep
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with that being said, just with the
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asking for a partial release of funding
to cover and pay the artists for their

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their time and their designs, which is
around uh the 12,000. So 12,000 release.

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It's 20,000 for all three. The eight
grand is going towards the um sorry Iron

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Heads mural, but we're asking for
release of the 12 grand for these two to

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to get the payments sent out on our end.
But yeah, they're quite beautiful. So,

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uh hopefully you'll see them in the walk
um the mural walk that you guys have

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created. I'll send over the details so
you can add them in there, some artist

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bios, their names, um and then just
pictures of them as well. But they're

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quite beautiful. I think everybody in
here could benefit from a butterfly sort

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of photo op there, too. So, you might as
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while you can.
>> Seen councelor Parlo going up to the

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screen there. I thought he was maybe
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» Exactly. [laughter] Yeah. Spread the
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round us off. Thanks so much, Taylor.
Um, uh, but, uh, now I'll just get into

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community involvement. Um, so the
gallery's committed to achieving as much

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community outreach and involvement as
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events to highlight uh for our community
engagement include the youth membership

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show, which had a really great turnout
of of people coming to it. So, that was

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really fun. Packed the art gallery by
the looks of it. Um, and yeah, really

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good time. And also uh the art walk, I
think uh it's a it's a really fun uh

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project that we that we have and uh I
know um myself, I reside currently in

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Fort St. John, so I'm commuting for the
for the work, but people in Fort St.

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John are noticing the exhibits. Uh I was
in the health food store yesterday and

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it was uh it was a nice moment. There
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So really proud of that. And uh yeah,
and last but not least, I'll just give a

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quick thanks to the key uh funders for
us. So thanks to the city of Dawson

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Creek, BC Community Gaming, and the
Vancouver Foundation for 2026 for all

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your support and funding and stuff like
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had for you guys today.
>> Perfect. Thanks Thomas and thanks Taylor

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for presenting. And just before I open
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on the request for release of early
funds, is that something that needs

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council approval or is that No. No.
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Just thought that might be a question.
Okay. Thank you. Any questions, council?

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Council McDonald.
>> Uh thank you, worship. Um no questions.

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Uh I love the the two new murals.
Absolutely beautiful. And uh I just more

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wanted to highlight how great it is to
see an outgoing executive director here

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mentoring her successor for uh just the
continued highlevel operation of the

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arts society. So Taylor, thank you for
uh all your time and effort for the art

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society and really it's great to see the
mentorship going on. So well done guys.

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Thank you.
>> Thanks Councelor McDonald. Any other

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questions?
>> No, I don't have any either. I um do

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want to just um thank you Taylor for uh
the relationship's been been a been

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great since you've been here and working
and just really appreciated what you've

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done um for the community and and the
arts in the community. So thank you and

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uh it was nice to meet you as well,
Thomas, today and look forward to um to

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the future and what that brings. So
congratulations on the new role and u

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and well done presenting too. So yeah,
you're welcome.

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» Thank you.
>> Appreciate it. You're welcome. Thanks.

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Have a nice day.
>> You as well.

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» Thank you.

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All right. Next, uh, three is the 2026
strategic priority chart. Uh, no update,

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Sarah. Any questions? Anything from you,
Kevin, on that? No. Okay. Uh, four. Any

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no late items? Uh, five. Any new
counselor business?

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No.
All right. Uh, next.

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» Sure. I'll go.
>> Oh, go ahead, Councelor McDonald.

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» Uh, thank you, worship. just like to
highlight that uh this coming weekend

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will be the uh B Creek Chamber of
Commerce uh charity golf tournament

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raising funds for uh for the chamber. So
they continue their hard work here. So I

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uh congratulate them. Uh organizing a
golf tournament is never easy and uh

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they did it in a very quick efficient
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Thank you. Um, and yeah, so if uh
anybody out there is looking to golf

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this weekend, I know they're still
looking for some teams.

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» Thanks, Council McDonald.
Anything else? No. All right. Next, uh,

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six, adoption of minutes 6.1 public
hearing minutes from August 10th, 2026

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for adoption. Councelor Kemp, second,
Councelor Earl. All in favor?

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Opposed?
It's carried. All in favor?

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I was getting back to my older routines
when I thought I seen somebody pushing a

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button. I'm like, "Oh, where's the
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regular meeting of council held on
August 10th, 2026 for adoption.

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Councelor McDonald, second councelor
Kemp. All in favor?

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It's carried. Any business arising?

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Uh, next correspondence. Uh, 8 8.1. We
have email from Crystal Hardy, president

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of Dawson Creek Kodiaks, um,
received on August 10th, 2026, regarding

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a request for swim passes uh, for o
August 24th to 28, 2026.

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» Councelor McDonald.
>> Thank you, Worship. I'd like to move

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that we grant the request for 120
complimentary swim passes for the Kodiak

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Saki tournament.
>> Thanks, Council McDonald. Second,

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councelor Sednik. discussion.
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this is within our uh our grant fund
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and sorry through you your worship.
>> I hit the button.

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» Yeah, you're on when the buttons.
>> Oh, okay. Sorry. My first uh meeting

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here at the new location. So, I can um
confirm that remaining in the city

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council's grant budget is $3,900. Uh 68%
of the current grant budget has been

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used and the estimated cost
we sorry I just need to find the email

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is um just under $700.
>> That's if they're all used, right? We

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reconcile after the fact.
>> Correct. And we will um they would

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typically when we do this um they're
eligible for only the span of the event.

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Um so they would be eligible for this
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Friday. Um so we would track the usage
over the four days and um only the

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amount that is used will get charged
against your grants budget and we do

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often find that um typically they do
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» Yeah. I guess the other thing to um
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allow city the city team enough time to
get them printed and get them over

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there?
I would probably defer that to

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» Yeah. Okay.
>> Ryan.

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» Thank you, Coun. Thanks, Melissa.
Councelor,

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» uh, thank you, worship. Just one or two,
uh, questions through to staff. Number

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one, is this, um, a new request or did
we get it? Okay, so it's new. Um, and

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then I guess a thought and and
as someone who's outgoing, I maybe

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making work for the next guys, but uh as
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recreation
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um it might be worth looking at a policy
whereby we split this off from actual

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grants, which is dollars going out the
door versus something that yes, we need

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to put a number to it because there is a
cost, but we um

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it it's it's it's different from a
grant. It's different than us handing

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somebody a check. Um, and it might be
worth having a separate

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uh line item for
grant requests of this nature because

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they are essentially inind donations of
access to city facilities that are

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already operating with an existing base
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50 extra people to the pool
what it would be if we were sending out

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giving out a check for $700. Um, and
just that given that these requests are

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becoming more numerous and that they do
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it might be worth looking at
a different stream um, for requests like

413
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:41,440
this. But that's just a thought for uh
future council to maybe pick up.

414
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:46,559
» Thanks, [snorts] councelor. Just to
comment on it um being a new request,

415
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:50,880
it's also wasn't um this event wasn't
held in Dawson Creek before. Well, it

416
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:56,240
was and then it went to our neighbors in
Tumblr Ridge for a few years and it's

417
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:59,440
back here. So, any other comments? No.
Okay, I'll call this to vote. All in

418
00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:03,440
favor?
It's carried.

419
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Uh 8.2, 2. We have email from Taylor
Sims, executive assistant, city of Fort

420
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:12,000
St. John, received on August 13th, 2026,
regarding a request for letter of

421
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:18,480
support the aquatics facility and
fieldhouse project. Councelor Parslo.

422
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,159
» Yeah, I'd like to speak about this uh
this one.

423
00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:25,600
» Receive discussion.
>> So, yeah. Okay. Receive discussion if

424
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,399
you like.
>> Second, councelor.

425
00:31:27,731 --> 00:31:32,971
[laughter]
>> All in favor?

426
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:40,640
It's denied. No, I'm just kidding.
[laughter] I'm kidding. It's carried.

427
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:48,640
» So, um, this may be just a a little of
my personal quirks, but, um, I I'm

428
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:56,880
looking at this as very similar to when
people hand me a petition to sign.

429
00:31:52,559 --> 00:32:01,600
Um, I don't sign petitions if I don't
understand what

430
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:08,399
is really planned.
Um, and sometimes the people giving me a

431
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:14,000
petition sheet don't know either. And so
I'm inclined to suggest that uh because

432
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,960
this is a
a the scope of this project and the cost

433
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:26,399
of this project, the scheduling of this
project um is there's so much discussion

434
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:31,679
about it. I really don't know what is
what is right and what is wrong. What

435
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:39,840
are what are we supporting?
It's if you if you are comfortable with

436
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:45,840
supporting a sort of a a general thing.
We plan on building a new swimming pool

437
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:49,360
and and a sports stuff. Um then Ryan,
you can do that. But I'm not comfortable

438
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:56,559
supporting things that I don't
understand the scope and and cost of and

439
00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:03,279
and u so I would suggest that we invite
them uh city of Fort St. John to give a

440
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:07,200
presentation to this council. Um I
believe they did give one to the

441
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:11,600
regional district. So I'd like to move
that we invite representatives of the

442
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:16,880
city of Fort St. John to give a
presentation to us about the project and

443
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:21,919
be prepared to answer some questions.
Thank you.

444
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:26,159
» Second councelor Sudnik. Any I guess was
there any discussion on the first? Well

445
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:33,919
well just if there's discussion now
there can be. So go ahead, councelor.

446
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:39,039
» Um, thank you, worship. I I guess um
my my concern is more with the nature of

447
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:43,919
the letter they're ask. Is this just a
generic open-ended letter of endorsement

448
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,840
for the project? I I don't see the
letter being addressed to anyone. We're

449
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:52,159
just sending them back a letter saying
we support it that they can then

450
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:58,480
presumably turn around when they apply
for grants or apply for anything else

451
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:02,720
» and say we've got which I I mean
once again if I I guess more information

452
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:08,720
as to councelor Parel's point would be
helpful but generally speaking we don't

453
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:11,839
have we ever been asked to issue a
letter of this now usually when someone

454
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:15,760
comes to us asking for a letter of
support it's for a specific grant or a

455
00:34:13,839 --> 00:34:20,240
specific initiative or going to a
specific person in government. Um

456
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:25,839
whereas this is just kind of an
open-ended endorsement for something.

457
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:28,399
That's my point.
support.

458
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:34,560
» Well, I I I understand what we're
supporting, but once again, it's what is

459
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:39,200
the I mean, not to be
uh uh

460
00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:43,359
mercenary about this because it's
obviously we all rise as a region and

461
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:49,119
fall as a region, but there are times
when

462
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:52,320
uh we do compete for resources as well,
whether it's from the provincial

463
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:57,680
government, from some sort of grant
provider. Um, and are we in a

464
00:34:56,079 --> 00:35:02,079
unintentionally going to put ourselves
in position where we're competing for a

465
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:09,119
grant against a project we've given an
open-ended endorsement to.

466
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:13,599
Um, and once again, I I don't,
you know, generally speaking, this is a

467
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,960
a project that's obviously near and dear
to the people of Fort St. John or some

468
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,760
people in Fort St. John and they're very
passionate about it. But

469
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:27,599
it would be I think useful to have that
conversation. But also if if they were

470
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:31,599
looking for a specific letter for a
specific reason as opposed to just

471
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,320
something that five years from now they
can still trot out and say well we've

472
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:39,680
got the endorsement of the city of
Dawson Creek irrespective of how the

473
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:46,320
circumstances may change.
I that's my my reservation I guess.

474
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:49,119
Yeah. Thanks councelor.
Yeah, I don't know the question if

475
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,960
there's any risk. I don't know if there
would be having we haven't had to do

476
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:57,280
this before, but
>> I don't know. I mean, in support of the

477
00:35:55,119 --> 00:36:02,079
project, it's great for the region and
it's also, I believe, just sitting on

478
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:06,400
the regional district board, I've um had
a bit of the presentation, but it is

479
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:11,119
going to referendum this fall, too. So,
it'll be a lot more um clear on which

480
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,280
direction that's going after that. But
yeah, I don't know if you want to add

481
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,280
anything, Kevin.
>> Uh three worship. just going to add that

482
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,040
um
we sought a letter of support from the

483
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,960
city of Fort St. John regarding our
water security project and we went and

484
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:29,599
made a presentation able to answer
questions and they were able to provide

485
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:32,400
that letter. So I think you know to to
be fair to what councelor Parzo is

486
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:36,000
saying I don't think that's a bad thing.
It enables questions. It's not that we

487
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:39,920
don't support it but I think it's it's
helpful to have uh that information and

488
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,480
and that opportunity to ask those
questions.

489
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,240
» Yeah. and very clear in their letter
too. If you need more information,

490
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:51,280
there's two individuals to request. So,
yeah, I think they're offering through

491
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:57,359
the letter to come. So, yeah. Okay. Any
other discussion? I'll call that motion

492
00:36:53,440 --> 00:37:01,520
to vote. All in favor? It's carried. Uh,
next 8.3 we have letter from Caitlyn

493
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:06,400
Tribel, artistic director with the
Dawson Creek Coral Society, received on

494
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:12,839
August 18th, 2026 regarding a request
for letter of support for the BC Gaming

495
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,839
Capital Projects grant application.

496
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:19,200
» Councelor,
>> uh, thank you worship. I will move that

497
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,119
we provide the requested uh, letter of
support.

498
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:26,400
» Thanks, Councelor. Second, councelor
McDonald. Discussion.

499
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:31,599
Call this to vote. All in favor? It's
carried.

500
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:36,160
Uh, next nine reports. 9.1 we have
report number 26-128 from the human

501
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:41,480
resource manager regarding a recruitment
selection and employment equity policy.

502
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,880
» Councelor Parsaw, I just need some
guidance on procedure here. there's a

503
00:37:50,560 --> 00:38:00,240
list of policies
um

504
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:06,880
and um I don't wish to be an impediment
uh but there's I think uh I there's some

505
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:10,079
questions I have particularly around the
first policy which might impact

506
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,400
discussion so
>> do you want to just make a motion for

507
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:18,160
discussion
>> I'll make a motion for discussion then

508
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:22,000
» second council McDonald all in favor
it's carried

509
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:25,000
Go ahead, councelor Parslo.
>> Okay.

510
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Um, I want to
start off by saying obviously a great

511
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:41,200
deal of thought and work's gone into
this and this is not some of this stuff

512
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:46,079
how it's interpreted
um is often very interest. I really want

513
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,079
to focus on the first policy,
recruitment, selection and employment

514
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,400
equity.
Um

515
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:59,040
I know some employers and I'm not saying
this is the city of Dorson

516
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:07,200
are often charged with reverse
discrimination.

517
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Um and by that I think people mean
uh that uh generally mean the way way I

518
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:20,400
interpret it is white males often are
put at a disadvantage because of their

519
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:29,200
gender and ethnicity.
Um so if I read this um policy and I

520
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:36,320
want to focus um
on some specific centers uh

521
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:42,480
sections of this policies I don't know
quite [clears throat] what they mean. So

522
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:50,160
let's just start off with 5D
under meritbased selection.

523
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Um D reads the city will select
candidates based on then D capacity to

524
00:39:53,280 --> 00:40:01,760
perform the requirements
of the position.

525
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:08,359
Uh do would you care to expand what is
meant by that and what is include might

526
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,359
be included?

527
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:17,040
» Go ahead
>> through your worship.

528
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:26,760
Uh so the capacity to perform the
requirements of the position is uh

529
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:26,760
refers to a person's um

530
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,880
I apologize clearly I'm struggling with
words this morning. Um, essentially we

531
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:41,680
want to ensure that whoever we hire to
do this is the person who is going to be

532
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:49,200
able to take on the full scope of the
work uh at a full-time uh or part-time

533
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:54,079
depending on how it's posted um in a in
uh in [clears throat] that role uh long

534
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:59,200
term. So that refers to not just the
skills, not just the qualifications, but

535
00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:02,640
their overall ability to uh complete the
work long term

536
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,680
» fulfill it. So if I
>> Yeah, go ahead.

537
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:11,280
» So would that include
um

538
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:17,599
uh if a job may require
um some time extra time or dealing with

539
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:20,640
emergencies being able to work at the
weekend?

540
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:25,440
» Yep.
>> So how does that impact

541
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:32,480
inversely
a female with young children?

542
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:37,760
Uh I think that um
that is a nuanced

543
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:43,920
uh and uh sometimes quite complicated
issue uh that we are re-evaluating our

544
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:52,000
approach to um regularly as it comes up.
But essentially it boils down to um we

545
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:56,560
have a requirement as as an employer um
to

546
00:41:53,599 --> 00:42:01,440
uh to the point of undue hardship to
accommodate

547
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:06,800
that type of thing. Um, now if we have a
uh if we have a job where we might

548
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:12,480
require somebody to be working outside
of school hours, for example,

549
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:17,680
um
we would address any concerns that a

550
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:22,720
person may have around child care, um
getting kids to and from school, all of

551
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:31,040
that sort of thing. um through our uh
flexible work uh arrangements policy uh

552
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:35,599
that allows us to support folks who
might have some of those concerns by

553
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:40,240
adjusting some of their work hours to be
able to still get their work done. Um

554
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:44,160
most commonly what it looks like is we
might shift someone's working hours to

555
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:49,040
start after 9:00 a.m. so that they can
drop their kids off. Um that sort of

556
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:53,680
thing. But ultimately uh if it is a
requirement of the job that a person is

557
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:57,119
available on Saturdays to run certain
programming or something like that for

558
00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:02,000
example, we need to know that the person
hired for the position will be able to

559
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:08,560
do that. Um and if there are some
concerns as far as the um

560
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:13,920
uh the childcare aspect in particular,
which is a specific area where we are we

561
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:20,400
are um
>> would in 5D would a determination of

562
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:24,240
their physical capacity to engage in
lifting?

563
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:29,280
» Yep. that be judged? Would you would
judgments be made

564
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:35,119
u just based upon an interview or what
do what would you be based upon if if a

565
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:40,160
job required
uh heavy lifting?

566
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:48,640
» Yeah, you bet. through your worship. Um
we uh when we go through our recruitment

567
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:51,760
process, we uh ask um our candidates
whether they meet the minimum

568
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:57,280
requirements of the job, which does
include having physical agility um in

569
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:02,800
order to meet job requirements. Some
have higher requirements than others,

570
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:11,040
obviously. Um,
and we uh we do not uh just trying to

571
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:16,800
think if before I make a blanket
statement. Outside of our firefighters,

572
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:23,119
we do not have physical testing before
um before giving people uh a job offer.

573
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,280
Um but it does often again come up
through um accommodation requests if

574
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:31,359
someone has injured themselves or
something like that. uh and we work with

575
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:35,760
someone at that point but not not during
the recruitment process uh other than as

576
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:41,280
I said the firefighters.
>> I I recognize

577
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:46,880
the word that you use the word nuanced.
I know and I respect that it is this is

578
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:51,920
very difficult stuff
um administering it. Just moving on to

579
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:58,240
sit C,
removing barriers that may disadvantage

580
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:01,240
under representative groups.
Um,

581
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:12,680
what sort of things are you referring
to? What barriers would there be for

582
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,680
um

583
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:23,599
I know language might be or the use use
of the English language might be a a

584
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:30,160
barrier but I'd be interested in how you
mitigate that. Um

585
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:36,400
um but uh what other barriers are there
besides language? of course uh through

586
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:45,520
your worship. The um the primary areas
where we really start um looking at um

587
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:49,520
removing barriers are around um driver's
licenses and criminal records checks.

588
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:55,359
Those are the the two primary areas
where um we really evaluate does this

589
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,640
need to be in here or does it not need
to be in here? Do we genuinely need

590
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:04,400
someone to have a driver's license
because we may be keeping a whole

591
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:08,720
section of the uh population? Um we may
be putting a barrier up to allow them to

592
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,760
apply on a job. Um because realistically
you

593
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:17,040
may not need to have a license for that
job. Criminal record checks is another

594
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:26,160
area. Um and that is one that is really
uh you get a lot of pressure from um

595
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:30,400
uh federal provincial um
uh regulation

596
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,839
to ensure that you are not throwing up
again barriers in the way. Do we need to

597
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:38,560
have a criminal record check for this
position? And there's a whole uh

598
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,760
checklist essentially or flowchart that
you go through. Does it do this? Does it

599
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:48,000
work with the public? Does it work with
vulnerable peoples? Is it uh a position

600
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:52,960
of authority over others? And um so we
uh where this most often comes up is

601
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:57,440
when we work with um our unions to
evaluate our jobs and we'll sit down and

602
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:02,079
say, "Okay, are the requirements of this
job um being set in a way that are

603
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:08,079
preventing people who would do a really
good job of doing it just because they

604
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:12,960
got in a bar fight 20 years ago or just
because they only have their learner's

605
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:17,200
license." Uh those are the two biggest
areas and while we do look at it u kind

606
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:21,280
of in other areas um around experience
and that sort of thing. Does this job

607
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:25,440
really require experience? Uh it's an
entry-level job. Why are we expecting

608
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:29,680
four years of experience for an entry-
level job? Um the the primary areas

609
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:36,440
where we look at it though are around
the um driver's licenses and and the

610
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,440
criminal record checks.

611
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:47,520
somewhere in this policy. I I have
another reference. I wanted voters, but

612
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:54,079
you talk about I think correct me if my
interpretation is a misrepresentation

613
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:58,400
that we want to have a workforce that
represents

614
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:01,599
mirrors the composition of this
community.

615
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:05,359
Does that mean we're going to have a
quot system? What does it mean?

616
00:48:05,308 --> 00:48:09,040
[clears throat]
>> Pardon me. through your worship. Uh what

617
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:13,760
that means is that if we are doing our
jobs correctly during the recruitment

618
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:17,359
process, um which includes things like
removing some of those barriers, which

619
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:24,640
includes things like posting jobs in
places that you might not think of, um

620
00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:30,319
particularly places where um
folks who [sighs] um come from less

621
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:35,200
well-represented groups might find them
easier. If we are doing all of the

622
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:42,960
things that we should be doing, then our
um workforce should very closely mirror

623
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:46,800
the makeup of our uh community.
>> So, we're not having a quota system.

624
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:51,200
» Not absolutely not. No.
>> 8B.

625
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:56,680
Something I don't understand. It may be
my

626
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,680
last question.

627
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:05,200
insured candidates are not excluded due
to barriers related to disability which

628
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:10,000
I understand or other protected grounds.
What does that those words protected

629
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:16,559
grounds mean?
Uh so protected grounds uh falls under

630
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:23,599
both the Canada apologies through your
worship um the uh through both the uh

631
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:29,640
federal and uh the provincial human
rights code and

632
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,640
um

633
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:43,200
I guess I'll I'll relate a little story
uh to to illustrate this. Um we have um

634
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:49,119
someone who's a CEO in our region uh who
once had a chat with me about having um

635
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:55,359
an interview in it must have been the
80s or 90s with um with a trans

636
00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:01,760
individual and how that was new ground
for them at that point. It it certainly

637
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:07,040
wasn't as uh visible or or as accepted
as it is now. and how they sat down and

638
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:11,680
they had a talk ahead of time about how
they were going to approach it to ensure

639
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:17,839
that they weren't just being uh biased
against this person because they had um

640
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:23,280
they were visibly visibly different from
what what they expected uh that person

641
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:28,400
to look like. And uh that's essentially
what this boils down to is we have um a

642
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:34,240
significant number of things that are
are protected. Uh sex, age, religion,

643
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:40,559
country of origin. Um there's a whole
list and we need to be doing whatever we

644
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:44,160
can to ensure that none of those factors
are considered during the recruitment

645
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:48,640
process.
We do that through through a few

646
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:54,319
different things. um primarily through
our um interview process being very

647
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:59,359
transparent. We always have the same
questions for everyone. They are um

648
00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:02,800
they're rated on a on a scale where we
weight different questions heavier

649
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,920
depending on how important they are. And
then we also have a section where we're

650
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:11,200
like this is what a good answer should
tell you. so that we can be very

651
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:16,640
consistent with um with our recruitment
process and ensuring that we are basing

652
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:22,400
it on the person's skills and abilities
and not you know their family life or

653
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:26,079
their first language.
>> So

654
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:32,960
thank you. Yes, I I as soon as you
started illustrating protected grounds,

655
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:39,040
I began to my mind was
not embracing that, but I I do embrace

656
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:45,359
th those part those principles embedded
in protected grounds for sure.

657
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:54,000
So if I'm, you know,
if I'm uh let's say in need of work and

658
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:59,680
I uh I personally apply to the city,
you're saying that um I would be

659
00:51:56,559 --> 00:52:05,119
considered equitably be there would be
no seniors discrimination,

660
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:11,280
no race discrimination,
no religion, no disability stuff. It's

661
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:16,880
an equal
How does one

662
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:23,680
this I think the city's been accused by
some people very unfairly. Um

663
00:52:21,416 --> 00:52:28,880
[snorts] uh and I'm just going to say it
but uh I'm just and then then asked a

664
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:34,400
question you know it's like an old boy
club. Well it's not old boys let's say

665
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:41,440
old boys and old girls club. How does
one guard against

666
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:47,520
inherent bias? I mean I
I hated recruiting. I have strong

667
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:53,920
biases, you know. Um
uh I just mean it's uh explicit. If

668
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:59,040
someone came in into to be a
administrator in my school district

669
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:03,599
wearing a nose ring, they may as well
turn around, right? They're the old

670
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:09,839
days. Now it wouldn't it wouldn't bother
me. We all have biases. Some of them are

671
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:15,359
ridiculous. Some of them are cultural.
Um, so is there a team approach to

672
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:22,160
recruiting? It's can you can you paint a
picture how you go about recruiting for

673
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:25,760
let's say a just a regular position in
the city?

674
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:32,640
» Absolutely. Uh through your worship uh
it's uh bias is inevitable. Everyone is

675
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:35,920
biased in some way. Um sometimes you're
aware of what your biases are, sometimes

676
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:41,839
you're not aware of what your biases
are. Um something that I work with um my

677
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:47,680
team on and with the managers on is
there's a

678
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:55,599
a little dated but very educational
um bias testing center put out by I

679
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:59,839
you have caught me flatfooted here but
I'm pretty sure it's it's Harvard um

680
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,520
where you can go through and take
different tests and it'll tell you how

681
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:07,680
biased you are in these different areas.
Um

682
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:12,000
and then uh an area where I I
particularly do this is um before

683
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:19,119
interviewing
um in some of our investigations uh

684
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:24,800
we sit down as a team and we say okay
what are our biases? This is we're not

685
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:28,160
here to judge each other's biases here.
We're here to identify the biases and

686
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:33,760
then say okay here's here's something
where I know I might be biased.

687
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:39,920
Uh, I don't like the color purple and
this person's hair is purple, for

688
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:44,240
example. Well, how am I going to
um deal with that? The number one is

689
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:49,599
being aware of it. Number two is being
prepared for it. Um,

690
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:55,119
and then it really comes down to
ensuring that you have multiple people

691
00:54:51,359 --> 00:55:02,640
involved at every step. Um
at the uh at the unionized level we have

692
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,800
always the manager and generally the
supervisor as well. If not they'll pull

693
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:12,960
in another manager to be there for the
interviews. For um management we always

694
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:17,520
have at least two managers there. And
then uh it's just a matter of making

695
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:22,079
sure that everyone
realizes that it's part of their job to

696
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:25,119
call it out if they're seeing an issue.
say, "Oh, I don't think you're giving

697
00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:29,359
this person a fair shake because what
about this, this, this, and this?" And

698
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:34,240
um I think the the main thing that
really helps with that for us and our

699
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:37,920
team is just that constant um touching
base with everyone. How are you feeling

700
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:41,680
about this? Have you thought about this?
Hey, let's talk about bias again. I know

701
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:46,160
that you guys just heard from me not too
long ago about it, but let's talk about

702
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:51,680
it again. Uh and I think that that our
um well I know that our managers uh work

703
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:55,839
very hard to ensure that they are making
uh what Devon always likes to call the

704
00:55:53,280 --> 00:56:01,040
right choice not the easy choice when it
comes to um some of our recruitment uh

705
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:06,160
decisions.
>> Thanks councelor Parslo. Thanks Lisa.

706
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:09,920
Any other questions discussion?
No.

707
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:14,480
Right. Anybody like to
>> um I have a question. I I looked through

708
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:19,280
the entire report and I couldn't find
one um mention of it but it's something

709
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:25,280
I wanted to gauge whether it's on your
radar as we are uh crafting these new

710
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:29,280
policies uh the use of AI in the
application process and how are you

711
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:35,119
screening for that and what are you
doing to ensure that

712
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:39,400
you're not getting 100 applications
written by somebody's computer.

713
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:48,640
Well, um, through your worship, I would
say that we, uh, don't

714
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:53,760
» I I'm biased against it. So,
>> currently, um,

715
00:56:51,520 --> 00:57:00,880
but really where a lot of this stuff
comes out is in the interview, right? We

716
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:05,440
do 90% of our interviews in person. Um,
and the ones that we do online as well,

717
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:12,160
they're very conversational. It's not
like we we tend to focus on um comp

718
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,799
competency based questions. So, it's not
like they can just look up what the

719
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:20,160
right answer is because they have to
talk to us about um their experiences

720
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:24,799
within their career and and how they've
managed to deal with certain problems or

721
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:30,880
issues as they arose. Um will we have to
become more stringent in the future?

722
00:57:26,799 --> 00:57:34,319
Likely. Uh but uh currently it's not
something that's really shown up as an

723
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:39,760
issue for us at this point. Thank you.
>> Thanks, councelor. Any other discussion?

724
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:42,760
» No. Anybody like to move for a
recommendation?

725
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:48,400
» Councelor Parlo. Thank you.
>> I'd like to move that report number

726
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:53,280
26-128
from the human resources manager

727
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:57,520
recruitment selection employment equity
policy be received. Further, council

728
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:02,079
approved the recruitment selection and
employment equity policy as presented in

729
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:08,480
this report pending the required 30-day
review period. Further that the hiring

730
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:13,599
hiring personnel policy hiring hiring of
staff policy and hiring dash you call

731
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:19,280
employment opportunity opportunity
policy be rescended. And finally, the

732
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:24,559
hiring guidelines for hiring policy and
hiring induction of a new employee

733
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:27,440
policy be rescended and verted into
administrative procedures.

734
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,799
» Thanks, Councelor Parslo. I have a
second. Councelor McDonald. Any

735
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:36,000
discussion?
I'll call this to vote. All in favor?

736
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:40,400
It's carried.
Just going to take a quick break here.

737
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:44,319
Uh I'd like to call a regular council
meeting for Monday, August 24th. Back to

738
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:48,960
order. Next order business is 9.2. We
have report number 26-145 from the

739
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:53,440
general manager of major infrastructure
and development uh regarding the water

740
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:57,520
supply system project phase 2 planning
and recommendations.

741
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:01,359
» Councelor McDonald.
>> Thank you worship. I'd like to move that

742
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:04,640
report number 26-145
from the general manager of major

743
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:09,359
infrastructure and development regarding
water supply system project phase 2

744
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,839
planning and recommendations be received
for discussion.

745
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:18,799
» Thank you councelor McDonald. Second,
councelor Kemp. All in favor?

746
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:21,799
It's carried.
Anybody?

747
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:29,839
» Councilor McDonald.
>> Uh, thank you, worship.

748
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:35,599
Um,
it's a great report. Um, the thoughts,

749
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:40,400
the insights into it are extremely
strong.

750
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:49,680
Um just on a a high level first
impression reading the report and

751
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:54,559
breaking up uh phase 2 into A and B.
Um,

752
00:59:51,440 --> 01:00:00,559
I wonder
as you acknowledged in there that it is

753
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:04,400
going to put us possibly behind when it
comes to

754
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:09,680
um possible
grants, funding, etc.

755
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:14,480
Um,
was that built into your cost

756
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:18,760
projections that we received last
council meeting as well?

757
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:27,280
So through your worship, council
McDonald, uh I don't believe I had any

758
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:32,160
cost projections last council for the
phase 2 A 2B.

759
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:38,000
» Sorry, I meant the overall.
>> The overall? Yeah, I don't believe so.

760
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:44,640
Breaking the phases into phase 2 A and
2B should not change our grant funding

761
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:50,079
um opportunities. What it's going to do
though likely with the 2A is uh we're

762
01:00:48,799 --> 01:00:54,319
going to miss some environmental timing
windows which means it'll push some of

763
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:58,559
the field work. What we've done in 2A
essentially is taken all of the field

764
01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:06,079
work and the site work and moved it all
the geo the the technical work and moved

765
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:09,839
it to a following year. Our concern as
staff, my concern was that I didn't want

766
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,799
to go down too far down a path of of
carrying all these options and doing a

767
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:16,400
lot of technical work on all these
different routes because we've we've

768
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:20,079
narrowed it down to three different
options when we don't quite know where

769
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,960
we're going to get to yet.
>> Mhm.

770
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:28,960
» So, our feeling strongly and the
consultant team um generally feel that

771
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:33,359
that we can comfortably put that forward
and carry those risks and we'll manage

772
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:37,520
those when we get there. Um and it and
it won't it won't hurt us too much on

773
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:41,440
the on the front end right now when
we've talked about the most important

774
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:45,760
thing right now is is really refining
down to that finding that final solution

775
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:50,000
and that starts with a lot of
conversations.

776
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:56,880
But is finding that final solution going
to be contingent on a lot of that

777
01:01:53,040 --> 01:02:03,760
technical work, actual routing
investigation where we get on the ground

778
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:08,799
looking at each route thoroughly um with
the professionals, the engineers, etc.

779
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:14,480
Um,
so are are we going to be delayed in

780
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:19,599
making that final decision that way or
are we hoping just through phase 2 a

781
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:26,000
that'll narrow down from three to maybe
two or 3 to one or

782
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:30,559
» without having the the true
technical side of the information?

783
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:33,680
» Yeah, absolutely. Uh I don't believe
we'll be able to get to a single

784
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:37,200
solution without that final fieldwork,
>> right? Um,

785
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:40,799
but I believe as I mentioned in the
report, I think we can go a long ways

786
01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:44,559
with the work that we're doing. And the
reason that I recommended the the

787
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:48,960
recommendation number two as it stands
is because it it sits as a strong middle

788
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:53,599
ground. I understand recognizing the the
capital funding that we have um and the

789
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:59,200
capital reserves that we have. This
gives council a way to move the project

790
01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:06,400
forward and set up next council and move
the project forward decently well

791
01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:11,040
without spending a lot of money. Uh if
we wanted to do all the fieldwork now I

792
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:15,440
didn't put this recommendation in the
report but you're looking at probably

793
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:20,079
900 900,000.
So, we felt there was a strong balance

794
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:24,319
here of some cash to keep the project
going, but also we recognize that we do

795
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:28,880
need to have those conversations and
find those partners and there's there's

796
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:34,319
a lot of value in doing that and we can
likely the risks that we would be

797
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:39,760
pushing further in the project should
not be as um negative if we if we keep

798
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:45,760
going at this time. Does that make
sense?

799
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:49,760
» And just one more. So, sorry. Um just
you know mentioning that we're looking

800
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:56,640
at possibly you know just short of a
million dollars for the cost on the

801
01:03:51,920 --> 01:04:01,680
technical um groundwork to be done.
As we've seen so often in the last four

802
01:03:59,359 --> 01:04:06,160
years every time we hesitate and wait to
do something the inflationary costs grow

803
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:11,200
and grow.
Is there any worry about that? that if

804
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:17,760
we wait another year, 900,000 turns into
1.1 now and we're at 200,000.

805
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:25,200
» Yeah. Uh there there's value in that.
There's that's a a great point. Um

806
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:29,599
my biggest concern right now is is
trying to make sure that we're we're

807
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:33,520
taking the time to do it right. I don't
think uh we're definitely not slowing

808
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:38,799
down by any means. We will be moving
quickly. the first seven months in that

809
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:43,920
first phase that feasibility study uh we
crashed the schedule and hit it real

810
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:48,079
hard. Uh so now as about I think this
next phase 2A is going to take some time

811
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:52,400
because it is all about those getting
those those people together in those

812
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:58,240
rooms the nations the um interested
parties the industry industry parties

813
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:02,799
and also uh members of council and
chiefs and council and that that is

814
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:08,000
going to take a good solid part of the
winter. Now, there is some environmental

815
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:12,799
sighting eroding work we can do, but
again, if we have these conversations

816
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:17,039
and we are able to narrow even further,
I'm really cognizant of of not doing

817
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:21,839
work that's unnecessary.
As I've heard from our council, we need

818
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:27,359
to we need to balance the costs and I I
felt that this was a strong balance on

819
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:31,599
that. Meanwhile, also in the report, my
understanding is if it comes through as

820
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:34,960
recommended, uh staff will be hitting
the ground hard trying to find that

821
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:39,599
funding, external funding as soon as
possible. So hopefully we won't need to

822
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:44,079
expend the full 500,000 before we find a
funding partner to to assist us with the

823
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:48,559
planning process.
>> Okay, perfect. I just want to state that

824
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:52,240
I appreciate
we are taking the time to do this,

825
01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:58,000
right, Devin? um there's a lot of
thought and um planning etc going into

826
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:01,520
this and I totally respect it. I was
just curious on that

827
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:06,720
» and as I mentioned if the full there is
a larger phase 2A it does not include 2B

828
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:09,760
you're looking at 900,000 for that
larger and that will include

829
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:15,359
environmental timing work that we would
be doing immediately to try to hit that

830
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:18,559
window this fall. Whereas, if this
500,000 that we've requested in the

831
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:22,799
recommendations, that would likely be
pushed until council were to make

832
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:27,200
further decisions later in the spring
when we have more information available

833
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:30,480
to us and we may have possibly narrowed
even more options at that time.

834
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,799
» Okay. Thank you, worship.
>> Thanks, Council McDonald. Go ahead,

835
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:37,760
councelor.
>> Uh, thank you, worship. So, that 900,000

836
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:41,119
you just cited was not the cost for uh
phase 2b. It would be the cost for an

837
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:46,720
expanded phase 2a.
>> Yes. Um, I guess I'll go through this is

838
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:50,640
I had a a larger 2A that was involved in
this that that the project team had put

839
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:54,960
together. We had reduced the scope
because the 900,000 seemed a little too

840
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,359
much for where we're at, our capital,
water reserves, things like that. We

841
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,920
wanted to provide something to council
that we felt was a strong balance as I

842
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:07,680
mentioned. Um, the 900,000 would include
some some highly specific site work and

843
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:12,559
technical work and routing work.
And do we have a price tag for 2B?

844
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:16,000
» Not at this time.
>> Not at this. But we're guessing that

845
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:19,039
would be the more costly of the two
simply because of the technical and on

846
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:24,160
the ground.
>> 2B would be a continuation of 2A and it

847
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:27,760
would come from those after those
discussions. We've had those engagement

848
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:32,480
discussions we've narrowed down to only
a few options. Mhm.

849
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:36,559
» And 2B we our feeling is that by the end
of 2B we would have we would be at a

850
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:40,480
spot where we would have one single
solution.

851
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:44,799
» Okay. And it's not advisable to do them
in tandem just because we still have to

852
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:50,400
do the stakeholder engagement with
various partners on the front end. So

853
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:54,720
spending that money investigating
options that may not be viable based on

854
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:58,640
those conversations
might as well split them apart and keep

855
01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:03,119
it until after the fact. The biggest
risk to the city is that carrying

856
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:06,640
multiple options through um heavy
intensive investigation because there's

857
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:10,319
archaeological reviews, there's
environmental reviews, there's a lot of

858
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,960
permitting and regulatory reviews. It
can become very expensive very quickly.

859
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,319
» Okay?
>> So, the conversation is we need to

860
01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:19,359
balance that with with trying to narrow
down. There's nothing wrong with having

861
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:25,759
a couple options. A couple options is
good. Uh but if we can get down to only

862
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:31,000
a few from the ones we have, that would
be even better.

863
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,000
Okay.

864
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:37,759
Um,
[clears throat]

865
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:42,880
I think that was was my chief uh is
yeah, just making sure that we're

866
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:47,359
I mean, I guess if if I want to play
devil's advocate for someone out there

867
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:53,120
uh looking at this conversation who
maybe is

868
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:59,199
opposed to who who thinks the need for a
new water source is overblown and um

869
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:04,319
that
we're uh we're overshooting the mark and

870
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:09,679
we just need to build another reservoir
or what have you. Um, seeing us move

871
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:13,759
forward in this kind of incremental
phase

872
01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:19,359
may not be perceived as us being
cautious. It may be more a matter of,

873
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:24,960
you know, incrementally you get so far
down the rabbit hole that you have to

874
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:29,120
continue with it. you know, we're we're
um walking ourselves into a situation we

875
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:34,960
can't back out of because the sunk costs
are going to be such that

876
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:39,440
um you know, you have to keep moving
forward. Um and I don't believe that,

877
01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:43,839
but I could imagine there might be some
people out there who are going to watch

878
01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:48,480
this who will think that is as as this
is how big expensive projects get

879
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:54,800
» the multiplex.
>> Yeah. as councelor Parsov all people

880
01:09:50,799 --> 01:10:00,640
would know um as you ferry these large
projects get them to the point of no

881
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:07,120
return so that you're you're
essentially trapped by your own

882
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:11,360
um so so yeah that once again I don't
think that's the case but I could see

883
01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:15,199
someone cynical about our intentions
here viewing this and saying well no

884
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:20,080
this is just a matter of by the time you
actually get to decision-m point you've

885
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:26,560
dumped three and a half $4 million into
this and you can't it's too late to turn

886
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:32,239
back. So, um I don't think that's the
case, but a cynical person may draw that

887
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:34,480
conclusion.
>> Council Parzo looks like he'd like to

888
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,520
add something.
>> Are you good, Council? Good for now.

889
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:42,480
» Thank you, Council. Go ahead, Councelor
Parlo.

890
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:49,040
Yes, there's lots of random thoughts
going through my mind, but uh I I want

891
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:57,040
to unto it with uh I too appreciate the
work and the writing. Uh it's it's good.

892
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:07,040
So I want that out front. This is not
intended to be criticism at all.

893
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:14,960
I'm working on the I'm not working. I am
uh I believe correct in saying that

894
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:18,880
this whole
bureaucratic

895
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:26,239
engagement
consultant stuff

896
01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:34,480
at great cost.
um is is judged and you have been told

897
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:41,760
that this is a a necessary prerequisite
for any real consideration by senior

898
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:46,960
governments. Is that correct? I I've
I've read it somewhere that this is

899
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:51,280
basically the process that is been
dictated to you

900
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:54,480
» uh through your worship.
>> Correct. So through your worship to

901
01:11:53,199 --> 01:12:00,320
council parzo there's a number of
permitting involved regulatory reviews

902
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:05,520
that need to happen as well as um
obviously most recently the UNRIP and

903
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:10,080
province's duty to consult that duty to
consult through the province falls on us

904
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:15,360
and our project uh as well as
environmental archaeological impacts uh

905
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:19,199
regulatory impacts we have many of our
solutions go through agricultural land

906
01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:23,199
commission agricultural land reserve
lands uh there's also other potent

907
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:28,000
potential impacts to other pipelines in
the area. One of the one of these

908
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:32,640
solutions crosses a number of existing
pipelines. All of those require

909
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:36,880
technical reviews, technical or
regulatory reviews. Every regulator,

910
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:41,199
ministry, agency that we're going to be
going to is going to be requiring a

911
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:46,640
number of highly detailed technical
reports. So,

912
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:51,840
uh yes, it is it is the process. Uh the
process exists obviously for a reason

913
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:57,040
and it takes a number of consultants to
do a 50 kilometer pipeline because there

914
01:12:54,640 --> 01:13:01,920
is interferences every couple hundred
meters along this as well as obviously

915
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:05,280
the most important cultural engagement
that we do with our nations and our

916
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:10,800
neighbors to make sure that we are not
impacting or creating any cumulative

917
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:15,920
effects. Um as the courts have have
proven is something that we need to to

918
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:20,800
engage on.
Right.

919
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:28,159
So, are we
um facing

920
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:33,440
an emergency with our water system?
Um

921
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:40,239
not this year for sure, but in future
years, we we're at risk, are we not?

922
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:46,320
with the with the uh environmental
science predictions for this area being

923
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:54,320
a drought area.
So do you have any um timeline? Do you

924
01:13:50,800 --> 01:14:02,800
have some mile posts
um with some timelines because

925
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:09,920
you know the good reporting etc. We were
facing an emergency.

926
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:16,239
We had a pretty good
situation this year that we feel secure

927
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:20,880
at this moment, but that could change
quickly. Am I correct in saying

928
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:24,000
you're not in? Yes.
>> Yeah. Through your worship. Um

929
01:14:23,221 --> 01:14:28,880
[laughter]
I had sent something out to council uh

930
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:31,920
last week. It was one of our watershed
reports and so

931
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:36,800
» we are feeling very good about it. But
it was nice for my staff to bring us

932
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:41,679
back to reality a little bit and and
share that although uh if you look over

933
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:46,000
the last three or four years the river
is doing quite well but if you look over

934
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:52,239
the historical narrative over the last
20 years we are actually at the 50th

935
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:57,520
percentile uh for flows. So we are still
low. So the question becomes, is this

936
01:14:55,679 --> 01:15:01,600
year the blip in the radar where we had
a decent year and the previous couple

937
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:06,000
years are more the norm or is it the
other way around? I was just reading an

938
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:11,600
article this morning about uh the El
Nino that is is all but guaranteed for

939
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:16,400
this coming winter.
>> Uh and really now the discussion is just

940
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:21,040
how severe it is going to be. It's not
whether it'll happen, it's just how bad

941
01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:26,159
it'll be. Um and so for us that
typically results in lower than normal

942
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:32,080
snow and warmer than average
temperatures throughout the winter. So

943
01:15:28,719 --> 01:15:36,960
um I'm certainly concerned that at this
stage the uh this year is the blip and

944
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:41,920
we're next year we're back to maybe
something that looks maybe like last

945
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:47,840
year or the year before. Um, so from an
emergency standpoint, we have done a

946
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:54,080
great amount of work to to establish
um a response and a solution to an

947
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:59,920
emergency. So we've got that um with the
province uh that if we get in a spot, we

948
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:05,760
have the ability to provide emergency
source water. Uh that coupled with our

949
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:10,239
reservoirs gives us time to manage it.
Um

950
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:14,880
so that is that is a solution. Um, it's
not necessarily a long long-term

951
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:19,840
solution, but all honesty, if it takes
us a couple of years to go through uh

952
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:26,080
the process that Devon's talking about,
we have the means and the plan to ensure

953
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:29,120
that during those years of of planning
and

954
01:16:27,673 --> 01:16:34,320
[snorts] constructing a future water
supply, uh, we have security for the

955
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:41,040
community through that emergency plan
that's been developed.

956
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:46,640
» The Thank you. So we're I'm on the same
page with you. That's good. So the other

957
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:52,400
thing now that that I want to comment on
because I the writing is very good.

958
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:58,640
However, writing
is not a very good way of communicating

959
01:16:54,640 --> 01:17:05,360
to the to many many groups of people
uh me being one of them. Most people's

960
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:12,560
leads as you know is visual.
And so I strongly recommend that you

961
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:18,320
think about all these translitations
that you do need to have some engaging

962
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:26,560
visuals,
infographics, whatever you want to call

963
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:32,480
them, easily understood. Okay. Um
it's some attention because giving a

964
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:39,920
report like this to
is a waste of time, right? It needs to

965
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:45,920
be done. But you could use this material
um that I to to develop

966
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:51,840
clear
uh images, right? The picture is worth a

967
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:55,920
thousand words and you'll need to
>> I just need to put our fantastic

968
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:59,360
directory communications Melissa on the
spot then her and the comm's team have

969
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:03,440
been doing a fantastic job with
infographics and I think they're already

970
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:07,800
down the path on exactly what you're
talking about. Good.

971
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,800
» Yeah.

972
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:15,120
» Are you good, Councelor Parzo?
>> Are you looking for

973
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:18,679
» I was wondering if we would see some of
those one day.

974
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:24,159
» Go to the city's Facebook page
>> through your worship to councelor

975
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:29,840
Parslo. Uh, of course, we will share
those with you. Uh, we uh do have an

976
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:34,719
excellent team that I am working with um
on infographics and materials. We also

977
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:39,520
have um been actively making sure that
we're taking photographs whenever

978
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:44,640
possible to ensure that we can describe
um this is as easy as possible. Um it is

979
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:48,880
a difficult one to describe to the
general public. So you're correct. We do

980
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:54,000
need to make sure that we are providing
visuals um that are easy to understand.

981
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,040
» Thanks Melissa. Thanks councelor
Parsler. Go ahead councelor.

982
01:18:55,199 --> 01:19:00,960
» Uh thank you worship. Just uh another
quick followup through to staff. So uh

983
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:08,159
recommendation number three with respect
to the environmental assessment office

984
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:13,520
and how the new understanding of the
project may change the interplay between

985
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:19,199
us and them. Does that have a meaningful
impact on the overall uh budget of the

986
01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:25,520
project? Is that and was that taken into
account in previous estimates?

987
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:32,159
So through your worship um yes obviously
if if we the the current project uh that

988
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:36,880
we and the work that we've done
certainly indicates that we're we're

989
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:44,320
below the threshold that would require
um the environmental assessment office

990
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:51,199
and that whole process that uh
would save us uh an incredible amount of

991
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:55,600
time and with time comes expense. um
there's just a lot of process and for

992
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:59,760
all the right reasons, but this project
uh honestly just it's um it just

993
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:06,239
wouldn't be required with what we're
looking at. So, so that is a uh that is

994
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:08,800
a positive for sure. So, it definitely
be savings.

995
01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:12,800
» Cool. Thank you. Thanks, councelor.
Thanks, Kevin. Any other discussion?

996
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:17,679
No. Somebody like to move a
recommendation?

997
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:22,480
» Councelor Parslo.
>> I'll move recommendation two.

998
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:27,520
The council approved an additional
allocation of 500,000 from the water

999
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:33,199
capital reserve for the water supply
system project to undertake the phase 2A

1000
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:36,960
work program as outlined in this report
with additional funding to be

1001
01:20:34,719 --> 01:20:43,920
incorporated into the next amendment to
the 2026 financial plan bylaw and

1002
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:49,199
carried forward to 2027 as required.
>> Thanks councelor Parslo second.

1003
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:54,000
Councilor McDonald discussion.
Call this to vote. All in favor? It's

1004
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:56,560
carried.
Thank you, councelor Parzo. Councelor

1005
01:20:55,520 --> 01:21:00,000
Roll, go ahead.
>> Thank you, worship. I'll move

1006
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:03,440
recommendation number three. Um that
council authorize staff to conclude

1007
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:08,320
participation in the environmental
assessment office process if staff

1008
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:12,400
determine continued participation is no
longer necessary or beneficial to the

1009
01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:15,920
project. Further, that staff report back
to council regarding that decision.

1010
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:20,960
Thank you councelor second councelor
McDonald discussion

1011
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:26,800
I guess for those that are watching
Kevin I mean the main reason for this is

1012
01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:32,560
just the uh the amount of volume.
>> Yeah. So through your worship, the uh

1013
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:38,960
environmental assessment uh act has uh
thresholds within it. And so with uh all

1014
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:44,400
the work that we've done uh with our
current uh use, future demand, uh

1015
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:49,760
projected population growth, economic
growth, all those things indicate that

1016
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:54,800
we are well below that um threshold. So
there would it would make no sense for

1017
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:57,120
us to ask uh for for those volumes.
>> Okay. Thanks, Captain. Go ahead,

1018
01:21:56,639 --> 01:22:00,960
councelor.
>> Sorry, just an added bit of context

1019
01:21:58,639 --> 01:22:06,800
because I did not initially understand
this myself when [snorts] it it became a

1020
01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:11,199
big deal. Um, but basically when we
apply for a permit for X amount of

1021
01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:15,600
water, whether or not we ultimately use
that water is secondary to the fact that

1022
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:19,600
the amount the permit is for, which gets
pulled out of the available inventory of

1023
01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:24,960
water. So if we're asking for way way
way way more than we need whether we use

1024
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:30,880
it or not um for all the other users of
that water effectively

1025
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:36,480
that amount is is pulled out of what's
available for them. So it's a lot more

1026
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:42,080
work a lot more expense and a lot more
contention essentially to

1027
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:47,199
get more water than we need.
>> Thanks councelor and any other

1028
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:52,560
discussion call this to vote. All in
favor? It's carried.

1029
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:56,560
Council McDonald.
>> Thank you, worship. I'll move that uh

1030
01:22:54,719 --> 01:23:00,560
recommendation number four that council
direct staff to prepare correspondence

1031
01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:04,400
to the province of British Columbia,
including the office of the premier and

1032
01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:09,280
the ministry of housing and municipal
affairs, requesting financial support to

1033
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:12,800
advance the water supply system project,
and requesting consideration of funding

1034
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,360
opportunities toward shovel ready
status.

1035
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:18,800
» Thank you, council McDonald. Second,
councelor Sednik.

1036
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:22,320
Discussion. Councelor.
>> Uh, thank you, worship. And I guess

1037
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:30,239
just, uh, touching on the concern I
raised earlier. What would we define

1038
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:33,840
shovel ready status as for this project?
>> Through your worship, counselor, I

1039
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:37,760
believe I may have defined it in the
report just for the public's knowledge,

1040
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:41,199
but it's buried in a lot of text, so I
understand. Shovel ready would be ready

1041
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:44,400
for procurement of construction
services.

1042
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:48,000
» Okay. So, basically ready for tender. Uh
yes, that includes preparing the

1043
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:54,080
procurement documents which would be
extensive for a project like this. Yeah.

1044
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:57,600
» So just if we were to generically put an
figure to it because we know that

1045
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:01,760
essentially bringing something to shovel
ready can be between 10 and 15% of the

1046
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:06,159
overall cost of the project.
>> Yeah. Uh yeah projects big and small

1047
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:11,840
that is the estimate we use. 10 to 15%
is for your consultation. So it could be

1048
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:14,960
depending on what solution we ultimately
land on anywhere between 15 and $30

1049
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:19,120
million.
>> You're likely closer to getting ready

1050
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:23,360
for for procurement. Shovel ready is is
a portion of that. So you're you're

1051
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:26,239
probably closer to 8 to 10% of a of the
construction value of the project.

1052
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,600
» Okay.
>> Yeah.

1053
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,080
» Thank you.
>> Thanks, Council. Councelor McDonald.

1054
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:36,400
» Thank you, worship through you. I'm just
wondering if uh this recommendation

1055
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:40,840
should be expanded for communication
with the federal government as well.

1056
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:49,760
» So, uh through worship, yes, I think um
we should. We just haven't uh had that

1057
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:54,400
conversation yet. So, that's why I
wasn't in here, but I think that's going

1058
01:24:51,600 --> 01:25:00,159
to be the next logical step is to reach
out to the federal government as well.

1059
01:24:56,480 --> 01:25:04,320
» So, should we amend the motion then or?
Again, we're having that conversation

1060
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:08,480
now. [laughter]
So, if if council would wish, we can

1061
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:15,120
certainly add that uh that we could move
that to our uh local MP and to the uh

1062
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:18,719
housing and infrastructure uh minister
at the federal.

1063
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:23,600
» Okay. I'd like to move that we amend the
motion to include our local MP and the

1064
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:27,040
housing infrastructure minister.
>> Minister of federal minister.

1065
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:33,040
I'll
>> second. Second council all

1066
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:36,000
discussion
I'll call the

1067
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:40,800
council.
>> Um so just to be clear Kevin through

1068
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:44,239
through to staff. Sorry your worship. um
it's prudent to do so at this time and

1069
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:50,719
just recalling our conversations with
the premier um suggested that provincial

1070
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:55,760
support
would be intended to bring us along to

1071
01:25:54,080 --> 01:26:02,480
the point where we were shovel ready and
then able to seek federal support. So,

1072
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:05,600
are we we're not worried we're jumping
the gun or it's prudent just to keep

1073
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:09,199
them in the loop or
>> I think can I I think but a bit of our

1074
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:12,800
discussions we've had federally and
proincially it makes sense to add this

1075
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:20,800
in there because if we can get both on
board right now then that helps as the

1076
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:25,040
project goes along. So, yeah.
>> Welcome.

1077
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:31,600
Any other discussion? No, we'll call the
amendment to vote. All in favor?

1078
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:35,760
It's carried. The motion as amended. Any
discussion?

1079
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:42,080
Call that to vote. All in favor? It's
carried. Thank you.

1080
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:48,719
Um
that was four, right? Yeah. Right. Uh

1081
01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:52,239
next order of business is 9.3 report
number

1082
01:26:50,719 --> 01:26:56,560
um and just before I move on, thanks
Devin for the report and everything on

1083
01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:00,560
there. Appreciate it.
Um, next 9.3 we have report number

1084
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:04,320
26-153
from the community culture and

1085
01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:09,480
recreation manager regarding community
services refund transfer credit policy

1086
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,960
counc

1087
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:21,920
26-153 from the community culture and
recreation manager regarding community

1088
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:25,920
services refund transfer credit policy
be received further that council approve

1089
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:29,360
the community services refund transfer
credit policy attached to this report

1090
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,120
pending a successful 30-day review
period.

1091
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:36,159
» Thank you, councelor. I'll second
councelor Kemp discussion.

1092
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:40,000
» Yeah, I think it's a great initiative.
Um,

1093
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:45,760
you know, it's it's when dealing with
the public if we can have a clear set of

1094
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:50,400
rules and standards and policies in
place to ensure that people have a

1095
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:54,639
[clears throat] consistent experience
across the board when they're they're

1096
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:58,480
coming into our facilities. that's uh
ultimately leads to a better more

1097
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:04,760
consistent experience for the public.
So, good work.

1098
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:04,760
» Thanks, councelor. Councelor Parslo.

1099
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:16,320
» Yes. I'd like to
talk about the policy uh considerations

1100
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:22,960
3 C
which reads a withdrawal request

1101
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:32,239
received after the program has started
will be prrated and subject to a 50%

1102
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:38,159
withdrawal fee on the prrated amount.
the remaining amount of the program fee

1103
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:46,239
will be issued as an account credit.
I find that overly generous. Um,

1104
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:50,880
you've uh started a program based upon a
commitment

1105
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:55,760
presumably. I'm making this up from my
well I arrange a lot of art courses. So

1106
01:28:54,000 --> 01:29:00,320
that's
let's use that as an illustration and it

1107
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:08,400
may not apply. If it doesn't, tell me
how it doesn't apply. So I I engage a

1108
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:14,320
instructor
based upon

1109
01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:22,320
uh uh a number of participants taking
the class or the course.

1110
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:29,360
Um if that number drops prior to the
course um

1111
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:33,560
so many days I can secure maybe some
other additional people

1112
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:44,040
if I can't
I cancel the course

1113
01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:44,040
I can't afford to lose money

1114
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:55,440
if if I enter if I start off the course
with sufficient numbers

1115
01:29:51,440 --> 01:30:01,600
um and somebody halfway through wants to
drop the course. Tough.

1116
01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:08,320
We've made a financial commitment. Now
you've got the exceptional circumstances

1117
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:13,920
as a later clause which I do accept. But
if I've made a commitment and there's no

1118
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:20,800
exceptional circumstances,
uh, why should the rest of the taxpayers

1119
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:28,480
pick up your your the whim of you
deciding, well, I really don't like it.

1120
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:37,800
So, it's I the rest of the stuff, as I
say, it's D is fine, right? The rest of

1121
01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:37,800
it is fine. I just find C is rather

1122
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:44,800
Thanks, Council Parzo. Go ahead,
Lindsay.

1123
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:50,800
» Uh through your worship to council
Parlo. Uh we did discuss this quite

1124
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:58,560
quite a lot. Um most of this policy is
coming from um the pool. So, we find a

1125
01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:02,159
lot of times young kids, they'll be
three years old, their parents think

1126
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:08,159
that they're ready for swimming lessons
and they'll come in and they will scream

1127
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:13,520
and cry. The instructor has to take all
of their time with that one particular

1128
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:17,440
child uh sacrificing the safety of the
other kids. So, in those kind of

1129
01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:20,880
circumstances, that's where we're seeing
this withdrawal after the program has

1130
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:24,560
started.
So, we wanted to make it that could be

1131
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:29,600
included, you're right, it could be
included in the exceptional

1132
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:35,520
circumstances for sure. Um, but as a
customer service point of view or like

1133
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:40,480
we thought too last week we did um an
equestrian camp also, this could be

1134
01:31:38,639 --> 01:31:45,040
those exceptional circumstances, but
kids who have never been around horses

1135
01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:49,440
show up to camp on the first day and
find out that they're actually allergic

1136
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:53,040
to horses. Um, so that's why we put that
in there just as a customer service.

1137
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:56,480
Nice and quick. We can give that
withdrawal and then the money still does

1138
01:31:54,560 --> 01:32:02,760
stay with community services because
it's a 50% fee on the withdrawal.

1139
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:09,920
» Council parcel button.
>> You've given two very good examples, but

1140
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:16,480
I think they're covered off by the
exceptional. This policy doesn't just

1141
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:20,239
apply to the pool. It is all recreation,
right?

1142
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:25,920
So yes, I
would concur with the decisions around

1143
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:33,840
the equestrian program
um which uh I've heard very good things

1144
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:39,760
about by the way um and uh the pool
decision. Uh that's just the good

1145
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:48,000
judgment of veteration and what most
people I would hope would do as well.

1146
01:32:42,719 --> 01:32:53,840
But it's the on a whim and I think uh I
don't think you need I guess the C

1147
01:32:50,159 --> 01:33:00,080
because the way you would administer D
is is in my mind very satisfactory.

1148
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:03,600
So that's just
a concern I have.

1149
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:06,239
» Thanks councelor Parslo. Go ahead
councelor.

1150
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:11,360
» Um
thank you uh your thank you to staff for

1151
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:17,120
the report once again. Um I did note uh
the the uh item C that councelor Parslo

1152
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:21,679
um
highlighted earlier but I satisfied by

1153
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:25,040
your answer and I figured um yeah the
customer customer service piece and the

1154
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:29,679
fact that it is retained within the city
as an account credit so it'll be used

1155
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:34,800
for another program and it keep them in
the

1156
01:33:31,679 --> 01:33:39,840
um in the tent so to speak. Um, I guess
question just kind of and I apologize if

1157
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:45,760
you're not uh able to speak to this, but
I think it's worth

1158
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:50,960
asking. Um, how does this policy align
or compare to other city- owned

1159
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:54,560
facilities that are leased by nonprofits
that offer offer coursework and

1160
01:33:52,880 --> 01:34:00,960
programming like KAC, like the art
gallery? Um,

1161
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:05,199
is there any interest on their end in
aligning policies? So, not to say

1162
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:10,159
obviously we don't want to do what
they're doing and run their thing, but

1163
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:14,080
uh a consistent policy around this could
also be useful for anyone offering these

1164
01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:18,719
kind of amenities in the city. So,
there's a a consistent expectation.

1165
01:34:17,199 --> 01:34:24,320
» Yeah. Through your worship to councelor
Earl. Um we can definitely approach KAC

1166
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:29,199
and the art gallery to discuss that. Uh
the aquatic customer service supervisor

1167
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:33,120
did check with other municipalities
though before we wrote this policy um to

1168
01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:36,480
check to see what they were doing and
it's it's fairly consistent. Everyone's

1169
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:40,480
a little bit different but we
>> and yeah the nature of what you're

1170
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:43,520
offering it could be very different.
>> Yeah.

1171
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:48,719
» Um and not necessarily to to approach
them and and suggest they do it but I

1172
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:53,440
know a lot of these nonprofits struggle
to maintain

1173
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:56,880
up-to-date best practice policies. So it
might be a valuable resource for them

1174
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:59,120
just to provide to say this is what the
city is doing now in case you're

1175
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:03,760
interested.
>> For sure. Yeah.

1176
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:10,320
» Um and similarly uh what kind of
integration do we have through the

1177
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:14,800
city's website for say once again
organization like the art gallery or KAC

1178
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:20,560
it just to give them another outlet to
have people sign up for course work. Are

1179
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:24,320
they able to utilize the city's
recreation portal

1180
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:31,280
» through your worship? They are not. Uh
they all have their own registration

1181
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:36,159
portals. Um ours is it's called NextREC.
Um and it's just just for city

1182
01:35:33,679 --> 01:35:41,840
facilities or just for city programming.
Um unfortunately, we can't add anybody

1183
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:46,159
else to our licenses. And we have an
administrator of our program as well. So

1184
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:49,120
the way that they do it is is different
than ours. I know KPAC use a

1185
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:51,199
registration system as well.
>> Yeah.

1186
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,960
» Um I'm not sure about the art gallery,
but

1187
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:56,639
» Okay. Yeah. I was just once again
wondering for the sake of consistent

1188
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,480
experience communitywide if that was
something that was an option, but thank

1189
01:35:58,159 --> 01:36:02,239
you.
>> Thanks.

1190
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:06,880
» Thanks, Council. Any other discussion?
No. Thanks, Lindsay. I just want to

1191
01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:11,040
thank you for the report and your um
ability for to go above and beyond with

1192
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:18,600
the customer service aspect. It's much
appreciated. So, thank you. Um I'll call

1193
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:18,600
us to vote. All in favor? Opposed?

1194
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:26,639
One opposed. Councelor Parslo. It's
carried.

1195
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:30,719
Uh, next 9.4, we have report number
26-155 from the general manager of

1196
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:36,239
community services regarding naming and
development of new park, Finn Park.

1197
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:40,800
Councelor Kemp. Oh,
>> thank you, your worship. I'll move the

1198
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:44,320
recommendation the report number 26-155
from the general manager of community

1199
01:36:42,719 --> 01:36:48,719
services regarding naming and
development of the new park Finn Park be

1200
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:54,239
received further council approve Finn
Park as the official name for the new

1201
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:58,400
city park located at 1125 118th Avenue
and further that staff be directed to

1202
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:01,840
bring forward as part of the 2027
capital budget process a request for

1203
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:05,280
council's consideration for the
development of the playground area

1204
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:09,280
including playground structures and
equipment, fencing, signage, site

1205
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:12,560
preparation and improvements and all
other related components required to

1206
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:17,440
establish the playground area.
>> Thanks, Councelor Kemp. Second,

1207
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:23,760
councelor Parslo. Discussion.
Call this to vote. All in favor? It's

1208
01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:28,639
carried. Uh, next 9.5 report number
M26-157

1209
01:37:25,679 --> 01:37:34,239
from the chief administrative officer
regarding memo regional aviation fuel

1210
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:41,040
price comparison. Councelor Parsaw
>> move that report number M26-157

1211
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:45,199
for the CAO re regional aviation fuel
price comparison

1212
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:50,159
which compares Dawson Creek's aviation
fuel prices with available prices at

1213
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:54,400
selected regional airports be received
for information. Thanks councelor

1214
01:37:51,760 --> 01:38:00,560
Parislo. Second cam councelor Kemp
discussion on the information.

1215
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:05,840
Call us to vote. All in favor? It's
carried.

1216
01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:11,119
Uh next 9.6 we have report number 26-159
from the corporate officer regarding

1217
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:15,840
land acquisition 5202nd
Avenue and 12007th

1218
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:21,239
street.
>> Councelor Parslo.

1219
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,239
» No sorry. Okay.

1220
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:29,840
Councelor McDonald. Thank you.
>> Thank you. I'd like to move that report

1221
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:37,920
number 26-159 from the corporate officer
regarding land acquisition 520 122nd

1222
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:42,080
Avenue and 12,000 7th Street be received
for the council direct staff to add the

1223
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:48,719
following properties to the city land
sale list for sale at the respective

1224
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:55,520
appraised market values. um 5202nd
Avenue at $237,000

1225
01:38:51,920 --> 01:39:00,080
and 1207th Street at $498,000.
>> Thank you, Councelor McDonald. Second,

1226
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:04,800
Councelor Kemp. Discussion.
Call us to vote. All in favor?

1227
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:08,960
It's carried.
Uh, next 9.7 we have report number

1228
01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:14,960
M26-160
from the capital project projects

1229
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:21,239
manager regarding memo 100 Avenue
drainage and roadway maintenance update

1230
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:21,239
and long-term infrastructure planning.

1231
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:30,639
Uh, councelor Sudnik. Thank you worship.
We'll move recommendation report number

1232
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:34,960
M26-160
from the capital projects manager

1233
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:38,719
regarding memo 100 Avenue drainage and
roadway maintenance update and long-term

1234
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,840
infrastructure planning be received for
information.

1235
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:47,360
» Uh thank you councelor Sednick. Second
council McDonald any discussion?

1236
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:51,199
Kevin assuming this one will be
communicated with

1237
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,600
residents up there. We had a couple this
is where we had a couple letters on this

1238
01:39:52,719 --> 01:39:57,760
one right?
>> Yeah. So through your worship, what we

1239
01:39:55,040 --> 01:40:00,639
can do is um we can actually send this
report to them just to ensure that

1240
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:04,320
they've got it. They can see what the
plan moving forward is.

1241
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:08,960
» Okay. Okay. Thank you.
>> All right. Oh, councelor.

1242
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:15,600
» Um thank you worship and thank you staff
for the report. I think it's uh great to

1243
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:24,159
to very prudent and and it'll be I'm
sure um somewhat reassuring to some of

1244
01:40:18,719 --> 01:40:29,960
the residents of that area. um when we
and I'm try and be

1245
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,960
very

1246
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:39,199
um ask question basically saying to what
extent when we are planning these

1247
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:44,159
undertakings
is this motivated by political

1248
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:50,239
considerations or squeaky wheel getting
the grease versus actual

1249
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:54,320
priorities compared to other aspects of
the community cuz there's several areas

1250
01:40:52,800 --> 01:41:02,400
in the community that could use some
love. Um how are we ensuring that this

1251
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:08,800
specific area isn't crowding out other
um other priorities so that we're not,

1252
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:12,639
you know, not that they don't deserve to
have their their concerns addressed, but

1253
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:19,520
there's once again plenty of areas in
the community that need some attention.

1254
01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:24,400
And um how are we we triaging those
things and not just are are is this

1255
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:28,639
consistent with our plan or are we kind
of somewhat upending the plan to because

1256
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:34,080
we got some letters of people who aren't
happy about drainage.

1257
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:37,199
» Wow. Through your worship that's a it's
a loaded question.

1258
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:42,239
» It is a loaded question. And while I I
don't I I don't want to diminish their

1259
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:45,760
concern or their frustration, um I also
want to ensure that we're allocating

1260
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:50,080
capital funds in an equitable fashion
that are ultimately not, you know, we

1261
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:55,760
look at what it costs to replace a road
that's failed. I want to make sure we're

1262
01:41:51,840 --> 01:42:01,040
not neglecting those roads that we could
get in and and save some money on if we

1263
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:06,800
do it right now in order to
um you know

1264
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:13,119
» so uh this particular uh avenue 100th
Avenue uh was in or is in our plan for

1265
01:42:10,719 --> 01:42:15,920
2028 for resurfacing. So that's one
issue. That's just the road service

1266
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:19,679
issue.
The other issues that have come forward

1267
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:24,000
uh through the conversations with the
property owners is is the drainage

1268
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:28,719
that's not unknown to us but maybe
hasn't been elevated to a higher higher

1269
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:31,920
priority. So I would say uh there's kind
of two parts to this. Uh the paving was

1270
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:36,880
already identified and was going to be
addressed. Um the request from the

1271
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:41,040
property owners is that it gets
expedited perhaps. Uh there's some

1272
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:47,600
immediate stuff that needs to be done
and and as it should and and we're doing

1273
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:53,119
that. So, the paving probably it's
probably on time as per the plan. The

1274
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:57,119
drainage uh you see here is is a bit of
a bigger issue. We can we can just

1275
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:02,000
maintain the ditches and just kind of
have the same as we've always had. Um

1276
01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:07,679
what we're proposing is that we look at
a bit of a bigger uh picture because if

1277
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:13,199
we want to uh what we talked to council
prior about considering urbanizing this

1278
01:43:10,480 --> 01:43:19,440
and moving away maybe from ditches
>> storms longterm benefits

1279
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:24,880
» but it has short-term uh capital pain
that comes with it perhaps. So, um I

1280
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:29,600
would say that this storm plan and that
consideration of urbanization is going

1281
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:33,199
to that's where you're probably seeing
the um

1282
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:35,040
» crowding rising to the top a little bit
quicker than maybe it would have.

1283
01:43:34,719 --> 01:43:38,320
» Okay.
>> Not that it shouldn't have. Um, and I

1284
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:45,280
guess just when with respect to costs, I
know, um, on a a cost,

1285
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:49,199
uh, from a cost standpoint, getting in
there and doing everything at once

1286
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:53,520
versus paving and then going back and
doing, is that stand for urbanization or

1287
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:58,239
is that just when you're already
replacing an existing storm sewer?

1288
01:43:56,239 --> 01:44:01,679
» Yeah. So the
>> the challenge is is we could go pave the

1289
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:05,920
road, but if we're going to do
urbanization ultimately, uh that road

1290
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:11,040
elevation might be different in the
future. So we need to make those

1291
01:44:08,239 --> 01:44:18,000
considerations now. So everything, you
know, will will fit together. So um

1292
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:22,880
again, albeit this might take uh some
time and some money to to do the plan, I

1293
01:44:20,239 --> 01:44:27,040
think it's it's probably the right thing
to do. We have talked internally about

1294
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:30,960
the Park Hill area and that road network
of

1295
01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:34,400
needing and wanting to do something in
that area to talk about this, but

1296
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:40,320
frankly as we go through the budget
process, there is always so many things

1297
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:44,320
that uh are considered and and it just
it hasn't made it till this point. So,

1298
01:44:43,119 --> 01:44:46,639
um
>> yeah.

1299
01:44:44,639 --> 01:44:51,040
» Okay. Yeah. Once again, I don't want to
diminish the the value of people

1300
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:54,800
advocating for their neighborhood or
their block when they feel like they're

1301
01:44:52,400 --> 01:45:01,679
being underserved or they're or I that's
a perfectly valid part of the democratic

1302
01:44:57,679 --> 01:45:05,280
process. Um, I just, you know, I want to
make sure that council is is

1303
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:11,520
understanding
uh the tradeoffs and making sure that

1304
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:16,159
we're not inevit unintentionally costing
ourselves more money 10 years down the

1305
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:18,960
line because someone lit a fire under
our ass for this.

1306
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:23,280
» Yeah. So,
>> pardon my language, sorry. you will know

1307
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:29,440
that staff will always be bringing um
priorities forward based on uh

1308
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:34,320
engineering reports and data. Uh but
that's always subject to change in this

1309
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:38,159
room or at the council chambers of of
there's always some political influence.

1310
01:45:36,239 --> 01:45:41,040
That's your role. That that's what your
job is. So that

1311
01:45:39,440 --> 01:45:45,040
» we accept that that that will happen
from time to time and sometimes for very

1312
01:45:42,719 --> 01:45:48,400
good reason. So um but our our
recommendations will be driven on

1313
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:54,920
planning documents.
>> Much appreciated. Thank you. Thanks,

1314
01:45:50,298 --> 01:45:54,920
[snorts] councelor. Councelor Parlo.

1315
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:06,800
» I'm still smiling about this, but uh I I
this this report has struck a chord with

1316
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:12,239
me. Um I really like it. I like the
structure of this report. You know, one

1317
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:21,520
of the things that Jim Shu many years
ago shared was some standards as it

1318
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:28,080
relates to responding to presentations
whenever you you're seeking uh cons uh

1319
01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:33,920
opinions, collaboration,
you share what you've done,

1320
01:46:31,119 --> 01:46:38,800
right? What you plan to do. Now, I'm not
saying that you've this this has never

1321
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:45,760
been done before this format, but I love
it because it shows that we've listened

1322
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:50,800
or staff in this case has listened and
we're doing something about it or if we

1323
01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:56,239
can't do something about it, it would
explain why we couldn't. So I just want

1324
01:46:53,440 --> 01:47:02,400
to commend I love this structure and I
really that was one of the things that

1325
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:05,119
uh when Jim presented that
10 15 years ago I don't remember

1326
01:47:04,314 --> 01:47:09,440
[clears throat]
it really resonated me this is a classy

1327
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:14,480
way
you know if you go out you consult

1328
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:20,239
share what you've done with the
information

1329
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:25,280
what you're not going to do and why so I
just uh and I know Kevin, you give all

1330
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:30,960
the love out you could possibly give,
but if we don't give him enough money to

1331
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:36,800
do that or the taxpayers don't, we can't
spread it around is rather thin. Yeah.

1332
01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:42,000
But anyway, I love the metaphor of love,
you know, as for council. But seriously,

1333
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:46,639
I do like this structure. Has it been
used before like this? But that's what's

1334
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:51,920
hit me, you know.
>> Yeah. So through your your worship,

1335
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:57,679
honestly, I I I can't say but I agree. I
think it is great and we'll certainly um

1336
01:47:54,400 --> 01:48:01,280
make sure that Dne receives the
accolades he deserves on this and and

1337
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:04,480
something for us to take away when we're
we're dealing with this in the future.

1338
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:11,440
» Yes, it's that second sentence, you
know, that uh in the in the purpose,

1339
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:15,920
right, that I think is an important
uh standard to keep to if if that's the

1340
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:19,840
right word. Thank you.
>> Thanks, Councelor Parzo. Thanks, Kevin.

1341
01:48:17,679 --> 01:48:25,760
Any other discussion?
I'll call this to vote. All in favor?

1342
01:48:23,679 --> 01:48:30,320
It's carried.
Next order business 10 bylaws 10.1. We

1343
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:36,480
have report number 26-156
from the city planner regarding zoning

1344
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:39,840
amendment 26-01 bylaw number 46362026
for consideration of adoption. Councelor

1345
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:43,920
Cam.
>> Thank you worship. I'll move the

1346
01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:50,239
recommendation that report number 26-156
from the city planner regarding zoning

1347
01:48:45,679 --> 01:48:56,560
amendment 2601 BA number 46362026
be received for the zoning amendment

1348
01:48:52,560 --> 01:49:01,760
2601 by law number 46362026
which provides for a sightspecific use

1349
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:05,040
to permit a school wood metal shop with
the existing building on the subject

1350
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:08,880
property be adopted.
>> Thank you councelor Kemp. Second

1351
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:14,080
councelor Sudnick discussion
call us to vote. All in favor? It's

1352
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:21,600
carried. 10.2. We have report number
26-163 from the city planner regarding

1353
01:49:16,719 --> 01:49:28,320
OCP amendment 26-01 bylaw number 4639
2026 and zoning amendment 26-02

1354
01:49:25,199 --> 01:49:34,199
bylaw number 4638
2026 for consideration of third reading

1355
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,199
and adoption.

1356
01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:40,480
» Councelor Kemp.
>> Thank you worship. I'll move the

1357
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:44,639
recommendation that report number 26-163
from the city planner regarding

1358
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:50,159
additional community plan amendment 261
bylaw number 46392026

1359
01:49:47,440 --> 01:49:54,080
and the zoning amendment 2602 bylaw
number 4638206

1360
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:58,560
be received for that the official
community plan amendment 2601 bylaw

1361
01:49:56,639 --> 01:50:05,040
number 4639206
and zoning amendment 262

1362
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:10,480
by number 4638 2026 which resates the
property at 1636 999th Avenue from

1363
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:15,679
industrial to commercial and reszones
the property from M1 light industrial to

1364
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:19,760
C2 general commercial to permit the
continued operation of a fitness

1365
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:22,000
facility be given third reading and
adopted

1366
01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:28,639
» thank you councelor Kemp second
councelor McDonald discussion call us to

1367
01:50:24,719 --> 01:50:33,520
vote all in favor it's carried
uh next 10.3 we have report number

1368
01:50:31,119 --> 01:50:40,560
26-116 from the corporate officer
regarding land sale 632 2 and 6 286th

1369
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:45,360
Avenue and 153796th
Avenue bylaw number 46372026

1370
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:49,040
for consideration of first three
readings. Counc.

1371
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:53,040
» Thank you. Your worship. I'll move the
recommendation that report number 26-116

1372
01:50:51,600 --> 01:51:01,280
from the corporate officer regarding
land sales 632 and 628 106th Avenue and

1373
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:07,199
153796th Avenue bylaw number 46372026
be re received. Further that land sale

1374
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:11,679
bylaw number 46372026
which formally records the disposition

1375
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:16,080
of three former city-owned properties
and the acquisition of two properties uh

1376
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:20,080
10424
and 1042817

1377
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:25,440
street through the completed land
exchange with 1342000

1378
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:28,400
BC Limited be given first three
readings.

1379
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:33,600
» Thank you councelor second. Councelor
McDonald discussion

1380
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:39,360
call this to vote. All in favor? It's
carried. Next 10.4, we have report

1381
01:51:36,159 --> 01:51:43,360
number 26-165 from the city planner
regarding official community planned

1382
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:48,639
amendment 26-02,
bylaw number 4642,2026,

1383
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:55,360
and zoning amendment 26-03,
bylaw number 4641 2026 for consideration

1384
01:51:52,719 --> 01:51:57,760
of first and second reading.
Council,

1385
01:51:56,480 --> 01:52:01,599
» thank you. be worship. I'll move that
report number 26-165 from the city

1386
01:52:00,239 --> 01:52:09,199
planner regarding official community
plan amendment 26-02 bylaw number 4642

1387
01:52:05,599 --> 01:52:13,360
20226 and zoning amendment 26-03
bylaw number 46412026

1388
01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:19,199
be received. Further that official
community plan amendment 26-02 bylaw

1389
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:25,040
numbers 4642 20226 and zoning amendment
26-03 bylaw number 46412026

1390
01:52:23,199 --> 01:52:28,800
which redesates
the subject properties to parks natural

1391
01:52:27,199 --> 01:52:33,599
areas and trails in the official
community plan and reszone the

1392
01:52:30,639 --> 01:52:37,280
properties to P1 parks and natural areas
in support of flood mitigation purposes

1393
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:42,080
begin first three first and second
readings. Thank you, councelor. Second,

1394
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:47,599
councelor Kemp. Discussion.
Call us to vote. All in favor? It's

1395
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:52,239
carried. Next. 10.5, we have report
number 26-167 from the director of

1396
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:57,360
development services
uh regarding nuisance abatement cost

1397
01:52:54,560 --> 01:53:02,400
recovery bylaw number 46432026
for consideration of first and second

1398
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:06,400
reading. Uh, councelor McDonald.
>> Thank you, worship. I'd like to move the

1399
01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:10,159
report number 26-167
from the director of development

1400
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:16,159
services regarding nuisance abatement
cost recovery bylaw number 4643 2026 be

1401
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:22,239
received. Further that nuisance
abatement cost recovery bylaw number

1402
01:53:18,239 --> 01:53:26,560
4643 2026 which establishes a mechanism
for the city to recover costs incurred

1403
01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:29,760
in addressing repeated nuisance activity
at properties be given first and second

1404
01:53:28,719 --> 01:53:34,800
reading.
>> Thank you councelor McDonald. Second

1405
01:53:31,679 --> 01:53:39,840
councelor Kemp. discussion
>> through your worship. I'd just like to

1406
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:44,560
say that uh the city's done a great job
on this bylaw. A lot of thought and

1407
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:54,199
process has gone into it to make sure
that the city is on a very good stable

1408
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:54,199
footing in regards to

1409
01:53:54,320 --> 01:54:04,080
recovering the cost of uh these
nuisances nuisance properties, but we're

1410
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:09,119
in a good legal standing to do so. Um it
was a lengthy process to create the

1411
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:13,280
bylaw but I appreciate the thought and
uh work that has gone into it to make

1412
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:16,719
sure we are in a good position as a
community.

1413
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:21,520
» Great. Thank you councelor.
>> Uh thank you worship. Yeah. No, this is

1414
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:30,639
I mean
I I think um a reluctant kind of next

1415
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:35,840
step. Anytime we as a government are
seeking more power to

1416
01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:40,400
deal with people on their personal
property, we always have to be very

1417
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:46,320
cautious. Um and people sometimes give
us some very good reasons to seek that

1418
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:53,040
authority. Um
and uh I think similar to the um I guess

1419
01:54:51,199 --> 01:54:57,760
it's nuisance as opposed to false alarm,
but we we um enacted a similar

1420
01:54:55,199 --> 01:55:04,000
chargeback scheme for businesses that
were um

1421
01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:08,719
not responsibly using emergency services
or or municipal government services. I

1422
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:14,800
think it was last year and I guess this
is a continuation of of that or a

1423
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:19,280
different avenue of that. Um not
necessarily a false alarm but nuisance.

1424
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:26,320
Um I guess a question through you to
staff. What provisions do we have in

1425
01:55:22,239 --> 01:55:31,280
place to ensure that this is not being
abused by a particularly latigious

1426
01:55:28,639 --> 01:55:38,000
neighbor? And you know, we're not going
to end up with two two old dudes arguing

1427
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:42,880
over rose bushes um calling bylaw on
each other making escalating claims of

1428
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:48,560
misconduct
cuz that's you know where my mind goes

1429
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:51,679
is yeah 95% of the time it's for a good
reason but you're always going to have

1430
01:55:49,679 --> 01:55:54,880
those particularly latigious people who
are going to abuse the process

1431
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:58,800
» because they can't have [clears throat]
a civil conversation with their neighbor

1432
01:55:56,719 --> 01:56:02,560
» right so through your worship um I'll
I'll start and then maybe Bill can can

1433
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:08,080
add to that. But I think that's part of
this process uh which is where council

1434
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:13,920
are the ones that actually deem it a
nuisance. So the complaints could come

1435
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:19,679
in. Um the complaints though are
the nuisance is driven by actual

1436
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:24,080
responses to by you know RCMP emergency
services. So again verifying that

1437
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:28,560
there's some checks and balances. Um, I
think through that process alone, you

1438
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:32,880
could probably verify whether they are
legitimate concerns or not, cuz if

1439
01:56:30,719 --> 01:56:36,320
they're false alarms, let's call it. I
mean, obviously staff isn't going to

1440
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:41,440
bring that forward as a nuisance
property to council. That's going to be

1441
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:45,920
cut off at at that process. Um, but
again, if it does get in front of

1442
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:50,159
council, council has the ability to deem
it a nuisance. Uh, the property owner

1443
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:53,599
has an ability to come in and appeal and
have those conversations. So there's a

1444
01:56:51,679 --> 01:56:56,960
number of opportunities for everybody to
have their their say

1445
01:56:55,360 --> 01:57:01,679
» and ultimately council will be the one
that determines it. So um I think that's

1446
01:57:00,159 --> 01:57:07,440
important for the public to understand
that this is not

1447
01:57:04,239 --> 01:57:11,280
some power that we will grant to a bylaw
officer or somebody else within the

1448
01:57:09,119 --> 01:57:17,199
organization that could you know it
keeps those checks and balances. Um,

1449
01:57:14,639 --> 01:57:21,760
okay. And I guess the the next question
would be if someone disagrees with the

1450
01:57:19,199 --> 01:57:27,840
decision of council, um, is that
something they have the ability to

1451
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:31,599
pursue in the courts as far as
and and how do we need to be dotting our

1452
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:36,560
eyes and crossing our tees to ensure
we're not opening up a whole new avenue

1453
01:57:34,719 --> 01:57:38,639
of potential expense and
>> right

1454
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:42,880
» frustration?
I'll look to Bill, see if he's got any

1455
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:48,560
comment on that. I go ahead. Yeah, thank
you. Through your worship to councelor

1456
01:57:44,639 --> 01:57:52,320
Earl, um there is a uh response time in
the bylaw where the owner can come to

1457
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:56,719
council
>> for reconsideration.

1458
01:57:54,800 --> 01:58:01,040
» Okay. Um
>> sorry I was just going to add that

1459
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:05,040
normally in these things that um there
is no appeal

1460
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:09,040
uh you know like the planning decisions
and such and such when council makes a

1461
01:58:07,199 --> 01:58:15,599
decision there isn't a mechanism for
people a higher court so to speak. Um,

1462
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:21,679
so I guess the question is Bill is once
if council makes the decision

1463
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:24,480
» uh of the nuisance property um and it's
justifiable I think

1464
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:30,159
» the decision is made
>> and I guess you know that's always the

1465
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:35,840
thing is there's you know a fine line
between um you know you might not be

1466
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:39,119
particularly keen with how someone
manages their property or their

1467
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:43,360
household but there's a difference
between that and somebody who's doing

1468
01:58:41,199 --> 01:58:48,159
blatantly anti social things to the
detriment of their neighbors. Um, and we

1469
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:52,000
just need to make sure that we're, you
know, understandably there's some

1470
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:57,280
reasons we're pursuing this, but we need
to make sure it's not just council, a

1471
01:58:54,800 --> 01:59:02,239
future council,
you know,

1472
01:58:59,679 --> 01:59:07,360
making life harder for people they deem
socially undesirable without, as you

1473
01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:12,719
said, some justification.
Um, so no, that that I appreciate that.

1474
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:18,560
I just wanted to um
follow up a little bit to make sure

1475
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:23,920
because this is a new authority the city
is going to have. So anytime we seek

1476
01:59:20,639 --> 01:59:29,599
that um we should make sure we we
interrogate what our motives are and how

1477
01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:33,440
the public can expect that to manifest.
>> Yeah. So through your worship, the the

1478
01:59:31,199 --> 01:59:37,360
process and the power really is, and
Bill, correct me if I'm wrong, is very

1479
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:42,719
similar to the remedial action process
where we have the ability uh with

1480
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:46,800
someone's property. If it's a hazard, um
if it's a nuisance, if there's issues

1481
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:52,560
with it, we council has that authority
to go through the very similar process

1482
01:59:49,679 --> 01:59:56,800
um where staff has to present uh the
reasons why we should deem it as such.

1483
01:59:55,119 --> 02:00:04,639
the property owner has an opportunity to
come in and and uh appeal andor provide

1484
01:59:59,679 --> 02:00:09,360
a a restoration plan. Um so I just want
to be it's not new. It's it's slightly

1485
02:00:07,199 --> 02:00:13,760
different or maybe expanded into a
slightly different way, but it's it's

1486
02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:17,679
the process is is the same as what we
already utilize with remedial action.

1487
02:00:16,159 --> 02:00:22,639
» Thanks councelor. Thanks Kevin.
Councelor Parlo,

1488
02:00:19,599 --> 02:00:25,360
» does the city have a what a noise bylaw?
It does, doesn't it?

1489
02:00:24,719 --> 02:00:35,360
Yeah,
>> it so would a rowdy party uh repeated

1490
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:40,000
rowdy party uh
which violates the noise value, could

1491
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:44,880
that be considered to be a nuisance
property because

1492
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:50,239
uh of the noise emanating on a regular
basis from it

1493
02:00:47,679 --> 02:00:55,760
» through your worship to councelor Parlo
cor you're correct. Yeah. nuisance um

1494
02:00:52,800 --> 02:01:01,520
defined in the proposed bylaw does speak
to noise, loud music, revving engines,

1495
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:10,599
frequent late night attend attendance of
vehicles, uh etc. So, it does speak to

1496
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:10,599
it. So, a barking dog

1497
02:01:11,599 --> 02:01:26,719
or a cat that goes into my property and
repeatedly ds up freshly planted plants.

1498
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:32,000
Would that property be um
where that cat emanates from or from

1499
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:40,599
where the dog that repeatedly barts from
the deck every morning waking me up?

1500
02:01:35,599 --> 02:01:40,599
Would that be a nuisance property?

1501
02:01:42,159 --> 02:01:46,480
Are you referring to me because we're
neighbors?

1502
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:49,760
» Sorry. Are you referring [snorts] to me
because we're neighbors?

1503
02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:55,599
» Um I'm just
>> No. The regional district doesn't have a

1504
02:01:52,159 --> 02:02:01,280
noise bylaw that I'm aware of. Maybe it
needs one. Are you? You've been very law

1505
02:01:58,719 --> 02:02:05,604
abiding since you've lived there. So I
have no complaints to file against you

1506
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:07,119
yet.
[laughter]

1507
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:11,920
» Thanks, Councelor Par.
>> Seriously, about dogs and cats, uh, you

1508
02:02:09,599 --> 02:02:16,800
know, is is that covered? Would that
make it a nuisance property? through

1509
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:21,920
your worship to councelor Parslo's
question. Um that would be directed to

1510
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:26,080
the animal responsibility bylaw in my
opinion which we're in the process of

1511
02:02:24,639 --> 02:02:31,599
unwinding. So
>> oh I don't why why would you do that? Uh

1512
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:35,679
why would you take it to that one rather
than deal it with through this? What

1513
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:42,400
would be
what would be uh your discerning factor?

1514
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:47,119
Was it because they're an animal
of a nonhuman nature?

1515
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:53,440
» Uh through your worship to councelor
Parzo because staff have been directed

1516
02:02:50,800 --> 02:03:00,239
to
resend the animal responsibility bylaw.

1517
02:02:56,639 --> 02:03:05,840
Everything regarding barking, dogs,
animal like animals at large speaks to

1518
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:11,760
that is spoken to in that bylaw. So
>> I see.

1519
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:16,480
So, human animals under this and other
animals under the other.

1520
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:20,560
» No, seriously, that's fine. That's fine.
>> Thanks, councelor Parcel.

1521
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:23,760
Any other discussion?
>> Thank you, Bill. And thanks for all the

1522
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:26,960
work on this. [snorts] Um, all right.
I'll call this motion to vote. All in

1523
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:31,760
favor?
>> It's carried. Uh, next, mayor's business

1524
02:03:29,679 --> 02:03:36,560
11.1. I just had a meeting with
Salvation Army. Actually, a couple of

1525
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:40,159
them uh there's just a new area manager
in the region. So, they came in, met

1526
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:45,119
with me. They're just talking a little
bit about uh their future and plans and

1527
02:03:42,639 --> 02:03:49,840
what the needs are in the community. So,
I'm just kind of uh connecting them with

1528
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:53,280
the city team to to look at that and and
to know if there's areas where they

1529
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:57,599
could help in the social service
department. So, that was good. Uh Kevin

1530
02:03:55,599 --> 02:04:01,119
and I met with Lori from the regional
crown council meetings. I think that was

1531
02:03:59,119 --> 02:04:05,599
our second or third time. Um was great
meeting. uh extremely beneficial and

1532
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:09,199
there's so much um that comes out of
those meetings. So grateful that she

1533
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:14,639
comes out of her way to come up here.
She's also uh we did suggest maybe um

1534
02:04:13,119 --> 02:04:17,599
the next time that she comes up if she
could time it were around a council

1535
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:21,280
meeting so everybody could be available
for that, but then she also mentioned

1536
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:26,159
that she's going to be down in uh
Vancouver for UBCM. So she's suggested

1537
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:29,679
um some times for that. So once we get
all our information, if you guys can

1538
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:34,880
just make sure you respond to to Kathy
on what works, um it's definitely

1539
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:39,280
worthwhile meeting with her. Um Kevin
and I went up and met with uh MP Zimmer

1540
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:43,920
just on the water project just to kind
of give him a brief overview and just to

1541
02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:50,560
kind of try to get more to that federal
minister and to get some support there.

1542
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:56,639
Uh the Ravali plaque. So, um, Ross and
Cindy Ravali and their family actually,

1543
02:04:53,280 --> 02:05:00,080
um, donated or contributed to the
multi-use courts, the building of that,

1544
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:03,040
uh, when we were building it, they
donated. So, there's a beautiful plaque

1545
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:07,840
that's been put up there. I don't know
if anybody's seen it. Um, but it's great

1546
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:12,480
job by the the city team to put it up.
They were very pleased by it. It's very

1547
02:05:09,599 --> 02:05:16,800
it's nice. Um, so we had a a little
ceremony or present picture really there

1548
02:05:14,719 --> 02:05:22,400
last week and a visit with Ross and
Cindy. So, [sighs] uh, Tormolene Energy

1549
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:28,560
was in town, um, as well and met with,
uh, council, myself, uh, councelor,

1550
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:32,960
counselor parzlo, and councelor Mcdonald
um, and Kevin attended. I just want to

1551
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:37,440
thank them for their time as always to
come up and, uh, to educate us. Uh, I

1552
02:05:35,679 --> 02:05:44,239
had a couple things I just wanted to add
to this um that came after uh the agenda

1553
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:48,080
went out, but I just wanted to um thank
the city team for the signage on it's

1554
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:53,599
8th Street and the corner of Co-op
there. They put up that way signage on

1555
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:58,880
the fenced area there. Um uh just
pointing downtown talking about tourism

1556
02:05:55,760 --> 02:06:03,280
Dawson Creek. Uh like what a phenomenal
way to clean up that corner and I just

1557
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:07,440
wanted to thank them. It it looks
amazing. So, thank you Melissa and

1558
02:06:05,337 --> 02:06:12,400
[snorts] Courtney um for the work. It
just uh yeah, just really looked good

1559
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:16,639
and cleaned up a lot that had a leaning
fence and not looked great for a long

1560
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:22,320
time. So, it's just yeah, it's just
nice. Um also just wanted to just

1561
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:26,159
mention too that the playground there's
a couple new three new playgrounds that

1562
02:06:24,239 --> 02:06:30,639
are almost complete. So, just a thank
you to them as well for that. Um and

1563
02:06:29,119 --> 02:06:34,320
then another one I had a meeting on
Friday with Northern Health just around

1564
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:39,119
doctor recruitment. So I just wanted to
touch on that as well. Um just some big

1565
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:42,880
wins on the retention and recruitment.
So this meeting was just directly with

1566
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:47,840
Northern Health. Uh but I just wanted to
share a few things. So there is three

1567
02:06:44,639 --> 02:06:53,840
new family doctors um this year. There
is by fall of 2027 there's planned to be

1568
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:57,360
seven um new. Uh there is some things
that can can change but there's been a

1569
02:06:55,840 --> 02:07:01,199
lot of work done on the retention and
recruitment and there's a lot of things

1570
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:05,119
moving that are um you're starting to
see the results of the last 3 years

1571
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:09,119
really of the efforts that have been put
in. Um so that was just some good news.

1572
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:14,719
They've also just signed an orthopedic
surgeon which will be here in the fall.

1573
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:19,199
Another good news. Um yeah so just
really good there. It was a lot of good

1574
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:28,239
news. The one downside is is we're
running out of of facilities to house

1575
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:32,639
family physicians. So all um with the um
three new ones that are coming, pretty

1576
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:36,639
much all of the medical clinics are
going to be full. Uh one of them does

1577
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:39,920
have a specialty physician in it. Maybe
two of them actually do, too. So there

1578
02:07:38,079 --> 02:07:44,800
might be a little bit of room there. Uh
but there's a need in the community for

1579
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:50,560
another facility uh to house family
physicians. So, um I I did run some

1580
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:55,679
ideas by her and she did get back to me
this morning on some of that. I just uh

1581
02:07:53,119 --> 02:08:01,679
not can't share them publicly yet, but
there is an opportunity out there. So,

1582
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:08,159
um but yeah, uh any questions on any of
that?

1583
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:12,159
No. All right. Uh next 12, uh chief
administrative officer operational

1584
02:08:10,079 --> 02:08:17,360
updates. Over to you, Kevin.
>> Thank you, worship. Um, couple quick

1585
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:22,880
updates. Uh, reminder for council and
everybody else out there that the pool

1586
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:28,159
will be shut down August 29th to October
2nd for the

1587
02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:36,560
annual uh maintenance shutdown period.
So, um, people will often ask why, how

1588
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:41,440
come? Um, it's important for us to uh
take that time uh to maintain the

1589
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:46,320
facility.
If we don't, um, we will have more

1590
02:08:44,159 --> 02:08:53,360
shutdowns in the future as we're, um,
dealing with unnecessary or unscheduled,

1591
02:08:50,639 --> 02:08:58,079
um, you know,
um, repairs. So, it's important for us

1592
02:08:55,599 --> 02:09:02,320
to take this time each year and and
maintain, as I've always said, that uh,

1593
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:08,159
pennies on the dollar to maintain it
because uh, we certainly can't afford to

1594
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:16,079
rebuild a new pool sooner than we than
we should have to.

1595
02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:20,639
Um quick update. Um we had a power
surge, bump something this morning in

1596
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:25,840
the community, specifically downtown. Uh
we had reports of at Kpack that there

1597
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:31,520
was something going on there. They could
smell some electrical

1598
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:34,400
um those electrical kind of burning
smells you can tell. So something

1599
02:09:32,719 --> 02:09:40,000
happened there. don't know uh what
equipment may or may not be damaged, but

1600
02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:45,840
we also uh had similar instance at the
memorial arena. Um and so we had some

1601
02:09:44,079 --> 02:09:52,079
challenges first thing this morning with
the ice plant. Um we were at risk of

1602
02:09:48,639 --> 02:09:56,159
losing the ice. Uh right now uh we have
the plant running and things are

1603
02:09:54,560 --> 02:10:00,320
maintaining and hopefully starting to
cool off with some work that we'll have

1604
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:03,599
to complete later today. But knock on
wood, right now we seem like we're we're

1605
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:05,920
holding our own. So, let's hope that
continues.

1606
02:10:05,119 --> 02:10:09,440
» Thanks, Kevin.
>> Yeah,

1607
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:13,440
» not great news, but good news.
>> Yeah. Thank you,

1608
02:10:12,239 --> 02:10:19,840
» Councelor McDonald.
>> Thank you, worship through you to uh CEO

1609
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:23,760
Henderson. Our uh ECD contract position
that we were developing. Is there any uh

1610
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:26,719
further progress on that or
developments?

1611
02:10:25,119 --> 02:10:30,400
» Yes, through your worship. Actually, I
was going to mention that and sorry I

1612
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:34,400
didn't. Um so, we are at a spot that
we're going to put that out. Um, we were

1613
02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:38,880
just actually talking on Friday, just
ironing out some details. We're at a

1614
02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:42,639
spot um where we're we're going to get
that advertisement out. So, we're there.

1615
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:46,480
» Beautiful.
>> Thank you.

1616
02:10:43,119 --> 02:10:51,679
» Thanks, Council Tom. Thanks, Kevin.
>> Um,

1617
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:57,280
all right. Next. Uh, 13 diary. Nothing
there. 14 consent calendar. Anybody want

1618
02:10:54,000 --> 02:11:01,520
to lift anything? Motion to accept.
Councelor Kemp. Second. Councelor

1619
02:10:59,040 --> 02:11:07,440
McDonald. Call that to vote. All in
favor? It's carried.

1620
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:11,520
Uh, no media question. 16, recess
meeting,

1621
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:15,599
recess to close meeting 16.1, resolution
to move into the meeting of council

1622
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:21,920
closed to the public for agenda item 5.1
and 5.2, section 91 C, labor relations

1623
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:27,119
or other employee relations. Agenda item
5.2, 2 section 91J information that is

1624
02:11:25,199 --> 02:11:31,280
prohibited or information that if were
presented in a document would be

1625
02:11:29,199 --> 02:11:35,599
prohibited from disclosure under section
21 of the Freedom of Information and

1626
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:41,040
Protection of Privacy Act and section
91K negotiations and related discussions

1627
02:11:38,639 --> 02:11:45,040
respecting the proposed provision of a
municipal service that are at their

1628
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:48,480
preliminary stages and that in the view
of council could reasonably be expected

1629
02:11:47,199 --> 02:11:52,400
to harm the interests of the
municipality if they were held in

1630
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:57,199
public. and section 92B, the
consideration of information received

1631
02:11:55,040 --> 02:12:02,079
and held in confidence relating to
negotiations. Uh, one between the

1632
02:11:59,679 --> 02:12:05,760
municipality and provincial government
or the federal government or both

1633
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:10,880
between the municipality and another
local government or between another

1634
02:12:07,599 --> 02:12:15,760
local government and a third party
and between the municipality and a first

1635
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:21,199
nation or prescribed indigenous entity.
Agenda item 6.1 section 91G litigation

1636
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:25,760
or potential litigation affecting the
municipality. Councelor [snorts]

1637
02:12:24,079 --> 02:12:30,800
Kemp second councelor McDonald. Call
that to vote. All in favor?

1638
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:33,840
It's carried.
Thanks everyone.