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Or beside the development board meeting, August 12th.

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Mr. Chairman, Tom Carefree. Here. Amy Pyle has not arrived yet. Kerry, Colleoplace. And then we have Vernon. What's heart? Helen Humphrey? Yes. Well, I'm mercy. Here. Jim Cox. Is that he? Here. William. Here. We can. All right. If we can.

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rise for pledge and

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to the Republic which stands one nation under God in the visible.

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We'll

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go to item 4.1. Proof of July minutes. Everybody have a chance to review.

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Do we have

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a motion?

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Second.

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I make a motion to approve the minutes of July.

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A second.

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All right.

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All right, all those in favor?

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All right.

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Opposed?

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Motion passes, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, nothing.

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All right.

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Mr. Sherman, if I may, I would like to request an amendment to the agenda.

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Item 8.2 should be on their board comments, so that will be item 10.1 instead of 8.2.

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And I would like to add to the agenda a letter of interest for leasing and developing the property at 29 South Ocean Avenue.

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Okay, does anybody want to make that motion?

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Sure.

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Motion to change the agenda as stated.

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All right, any discussion?

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All right, all is in favor?

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Aye.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Opposed?

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All right.

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Oh, Lord.

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Thank you, Angela.

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So first up, we have commercial improvement for professional design assistance incentive

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program funding request.

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Angela.

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Good

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evening, Mr. Chairman, board members, Angela Armstrong beside the development project manager.

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Item number five is the commercial improvement and professional design assistance incentive

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funding request for 415 main street which

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you have a power point.

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Mr. Philip Simuleta, applicant and property owner is requesting the redevelopment board

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to recommend approval for the request for funding through the zero percent interest

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known commercial improvement incentive program.

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The property is located for 15 links to

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review of and the decision of the commercial incentive

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application should be based on the following preconditions.

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Is it a conforming use?

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The subject property is in the RDB2 redevelopment beach side, especially retail, zoning district,

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which allows restaurant without drive-in and drive-through and especially eating and drinking

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establishment as a principle of use. This property is not a change of use so it is

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a conforming use. Does the property have any delinquent ad ballering taxes or leans?

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A staff has not found any delinquent ad ballering taxes or leans on the subject property.

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how the project will contribute to the elimination

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or prevention of slow and bright.

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This subject property is on one of our core areas.

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The applicant is proposing a complete exterior

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and interior improvement to bring the building

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into compliance.

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A staff has reviewed the proposed project

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and has found that all the predictions are met.

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So you have a full staff report on the packet and tonight what we are requesting is that

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you recommend that move to get to the city commission.

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I'd like to recommend approval.

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Make a motion.

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Second.

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Whatever.

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That's my young lady.

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You need public comments.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Thank you so much, Angela.

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All right. Do we do forget? Do we do public comments first? Yeah. So, um, does that we have any sheets?

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I have to not for that. I know. Okay. All right.

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John. All right. Come on up, John.

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John, it was in 413. Let's grab a rabbit. In case I missed it, I did not see what the money was going for.

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Did you discuss the outside decor? Did you discuss the movement of the bar itself?

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I missed that discussion that you had, so if you all could rehash the discussion you had

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on this property, what it looked like, because when you originally did that, he had to have

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a certain size bar, if you remember, Ellen.

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We did all of that, so I'm wondering whether you threw that out, or he's required to have

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that, and is he going to do that?

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Is there going to be any dancing?

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remember they could and could not have dancing. Are they allowed to have dancing now the painting

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a scheme. All of those things I missed when this was presented. I guess you saw this previously.

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This is the first time I'm seeing this. So I saw no picture of what it's going to look like

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because oftentimes they present this is what we're going to do, this is et cetera. So since I missed

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that when you discussed it the last time, I wonder if you could go over it again. Thank you.

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Thank you, Jones.

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Thank you.

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For the record, this application is for to replace the AC.

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Right.

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And we have the property owner here if you want to, he can go.

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I personally, if Phil would like to come up, if you just like to say a couple of things about your vision, if you want to, you don't have to.

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Because I've I've watched it every day. What's going on? I'm a big fan. It's phenomenal. Yeah, so, so I

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Yeah, you don't have to fill if you don't want to but why

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why

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not not to him to us

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So basically a little bit of my background. I don't know mortgage brokerage real estate company. Oh nice

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I'm a proper management company

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and a real estate school. I have a couple bars and restaurants in Philadelphia and in South Florida.

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So I've always loved Daytona Beach. It's been one of my favorite places and I've always

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looked for an opportunity to be here. And I found that opportunity by buying this property.

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So what I'm doing, if you drive by it, it's already done. I already paid for it, it's already done.

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This grant, the one you're talking about, was to replace five air condition units, two

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ten tons, seven and a half, a five, and a three.

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It's happening as we're speaking.

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Total cost was 77,000.

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This has nothing to do with the color or anything.

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This one here is literally craning five air conditioners down, craning five up, replacing

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all the air houndlers in the ceilings, and basically covering some of that cost.

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us now for the color and everything. That one is already approved and done. It's already

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painted. It's all done. It looks nice. And that's that's the other grant. That's all completed.

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And the electrical was all replaced. We changed the lighting. We put new lights on.

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One thing I wanted to add is as sitting here and I'm a big fan of Main Street to be honest

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with you. We have a few of my associates here on that business is on Main Street. I love

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What you're doing is beautiful by a thousand percent of support you

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I might even a grown up with a guy beside you, but

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Anyway, I'm happy you're doing what you're doing. I'm happy you're invested in our community

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And I'm pretty sure most of these other board members are pretty happy to because we definitely need more activity because if we're not growing we're dying

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So thank you for helping us grow. Yeah, I'm honored to be here and honored to do this

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And there is another partial. You're going to see the 14 North Hollywood. I just replaced all the electric. There's two panels that 200 and 400 outdoor electric panels temperate. It's being fenced tomorrow. There's a six foot aluminum fence going around the whole property.

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The electric being boxed in as we speak. And I'm getting ready to possibly do some resurfacing that needs to be done on it too.

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But that's a different partial, and then the pain in the electric, which he was he was talking about, is the interior exterior pain, and then all the lighting on the outside we replaced, and the lighting alarm, the walls on the inside was that first, was that first grant?

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So any other questions or just two words. Thank you.

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Appreciate it.

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and then they'd come across the street

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and they'd buy a piece of jewelry and then I,

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and there's, there's, there's, there's,

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there isn't gonna be any physical changes either.

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You know, he mentioned about the sizing and bar and dancing.

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There's no dance floor.

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There's, I'm not changing any of the bars.

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Like the structure's saying.

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I mean, we're gonna refinish it.

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I took everything.

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Now all new kitchen equipment, all new Pepsi equipment,

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all new, your line, everything's gonna be brand new.

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As in Washington, the floor is ceiling it.

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Yeah, because I was in there before you started everything and everything was rusted and old. Yeah, it's all brand new and I'll be able to stop bringing lunch to work.

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I'll be able to run across the street, but it was beneficial. When you do that, I benefit you benefit because it just brings more and more people.

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The goal is to bring as many feet to that street as possible.

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Absolutely, because they come here, they're going to go there, they're going to go there.

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Exactly.

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Because there are wonderful little boutiques all over Main Street.

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You just have to be able to get the people to walk up the street and find out that we're

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all there.

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Yeah, sickle.

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Okay.

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More importantly, thank you for, it really looks nice outside.

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Yeah.

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I really want to, it really looks nice.

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Thank you.

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So, that's the way I do it, man.

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It's got to be perfect or it doesn't get time.

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Appreciate it.

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Yeah, I really appreciate it.

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Thanks, guys.

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Thank you.

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Bobbi.

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Oh, that's my boy.

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Bobby Gdotti 405 and 407 Main Street, I own, sorry, I'm kind of in an attire because

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I'm actually helping fill with painting the American flag that's done up there, but I'm

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definitely for this change because, you know, when we first had got into the business down

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the street from him, it was alive and it was going well and then it got quiet, but I just

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As somebody who lives in the area and above the business, I'm watching and listening to ideas and seeing how this progress is going and it's I think it's what we want to see here on Main Street and talking to Phil.

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I think it's one of those things like when he's trying to help us get to be better in this area and bring in the light back like we've always talked about in the past like this is definitely one of those small trickles that I think will help Main Street.

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and seeing the watch the progress and watching the building looks beautiful and

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then also putting the artwork and everything else that he's trying to accomplish I

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think definitely it's a go-to so I just want to support and be there for him so

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you guys know too it's a good thing I think it's gonna help trickle the whole

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street to be silly back to what we need and thank you for what you're doing at

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Main Street tattoo I actually went in a visit you last said he was last bike week

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what and I don't go out there much like I used to but I got to be Helen's

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joy store and my friends of Brewery and I love I love the fact that we're

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coming together as a community and supporting each other as a community and I

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think that's the most important thing.

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That's like I said, we're more than just a tattoo shop. We want to be invested in Main Street and the community and make it better with, you know, from what it was to even now, to even go for flags looking great, do a great job on that. Every day of watching you out there sweating your butt off, man. Yeah. Good job. All right. So we got motion in the second, any additional board discussion? All right. All those in favor? Opposed? All right. Motion passes.

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Okay, before we start on this one, I have to abstain, this is for me.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So this is my property.

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So.

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Okay.

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So, Commissioner Improvement and Professional Design Assistant Incentive Program funding

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request for 528 East ISP.

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The project, Mr. Timothy Costa-Dazquez, applicant and property owner is requesting the

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a re-development board to recommend approval of the request for funding through the 0% interest-loan commercial improvement incentive program.

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The project is, the property is located at 528 East International Speedway.

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That's the pictures that you see on the screen.

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Mr. Costidazki, applicant and owner, is submitted in a grant application to assist with

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building improvement such as electrical work, financing, interior and exterior pain,

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block and concrete, asphalt, plumbing and HBAC.

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The review of and the decision of the commercial incentive program is based on the following

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preconditions. It is a conforming use. The subject property is BR2, business retail 2, which allows

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a variety of uses as principle use as shown on your work packet. It's a extensive list.

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According to the property owner, it's going to be listed as a retail space.

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Does the property have any delinquent nut baller taxes?

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We have not found any.

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And how the project will contribute is the applicant is proposing complicate stereo

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and interior improvement and provide more retail options and create new jobs.

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Staff have review, have has review the proposed project and found that all the preconditions

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are met.

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And we have the property owner here, again, answer all the questions that you may have.

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Do you have anything you'd like to share with us about the project that Angela didn't

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share?

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I mean, it's just, it's a total gut and redo of the building, all brand new electric.

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There was never AC in the building, so we'll be putting AC in, the whole property is just

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going to be a total turnaround on it.

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Um, I have a question about the, it, it shows two, you know, it's the, what used to be the

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laundromat and also the speedway bar or whatever was the speedway bar or any of that.

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It's a tattoo shop.

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Yeah.

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It's a tattoo shop.

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Yeah.

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It's, uh, it's a tattoo shop.

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Okay.

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Now, that, that building, I've already put roofs on the buildings, so though that we have

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the roofs already done, that tenant handled the remodel himself.

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Okay.

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So this is primarily for the one that was used to be the lottery map and then the entire parking lot

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So it's going to be the entire parking lot complete fencing all around

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Man, like what are you is the parking lot going to be dug up or just repaired or it's going to be milled down

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And then re-ass fault re-ass fault. Okay. Um

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I don't know the logistics of different surfaces or have you considered a permeable surface or

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Yeah, that would be a move there.

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Yeah, I mean,

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if it was Virgin Land, it'd be a different story, but just to be able to do that now, it'd be an astronomical cost to go in there and yeah, all right, do we have a motion to approve?

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I'll make a motion to approve it.

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Do we have a second?

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I have a second.

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Do we have any comments on this, Ms. Justice?

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No.

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All right.

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Any discussion up here?

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Any further discussion?

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All right.

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All those in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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All right.

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Motion passes.

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Congratulations.

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Looking forward to it.

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All right.

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Next.

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His family put a lot of work into that property over the years.

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They definitely deserve it.

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So item number seven is just information items, we don't require any action from the

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board, it's just for your information.

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For 15 main street submitted an application for the small project commercial and business

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incentive program.

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Just as I reminder, that program pays 75% of the total project costs up to a maximum

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amount of $20,000. The total project cost, and I included a separate staff report for you,

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the total project cost is $29,150 and the project description is electrical work, work,

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exterior and interior improvement. The grand amount is $20,000.

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We also have 17 South Oliander, which is a residential facade grant, and the applicant

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is just me and Felix, and the total project cost is 6,800, they are doing exterior painting

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and the grant amount is 3,400.

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That residential facade grant pays 50% of the total project cost up to a maximum amount

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no 5,000, just for facade improvement. Any questions on those two brands or applications?

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There's nothing required of us on that one, correct?

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Item number 8, I'm going to stay here.

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Item number 8 is utility boxes project update.

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As you can see in the pictures, the first phase is completed and these are some of the pictures.

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Granbian Main Street, ISB, A1A, they turn out very nice.

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So we have a second phase of this project because there on ISB there were some that were

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missing on this part.

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So I'm going to request to go back and do Ocean Avenue, Harvey Avenue, Ocean Avenue,

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I knew Hollywood Avenue near ISB only under and is ISB on the bacon lots that the city

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owned, we still have a couple of utility boxes that we need to wrap as well.

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So you will be hearing from that second phase as well.

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On that second phase, these are beautiful excellent job, great work on that.

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The on the second phase, can we look at, you know, like sea grasses, looking at like ocean scenes and like the like sand and stuff like that rather than just only flowers, you know, but still keeping with the same same thing, keeping with the same vibe and and and and such, you know, is that something that.

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Well, I don't know if you recall when I bring the art, you all voted on that.

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So, I mean, I don't mind going back, but it took me six months to complete this between

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at work, common here.

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So it's really.

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And if we stick with, if we stick with flowers, I just was wondering if it's something that

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But we can easily interchange just the picture on the wrap because the wraps all approved

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and things like that.

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Is there something we could add like ocean beach sand, you know, that kind of thing?

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We all agreed that, you know, certain logos and things like that I think weren't supposed

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to go on it and we didn't want necessarily the clock towers and all of that.

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But the flowers turned out beautiful, right?

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So not complaining just, is there, you know, to have a little bit of differences, you

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know in different locations coming down international speedway might be neat to see the beach might

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be neat to see some grasses on there and things but we're just another reminder you all choose

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the flower because it will be less viable to dig graffiti yeah that's correct so you know show if

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we put an ocean over there is going to be no you're right yeah you're no you're right that's a good point

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That would be my two cents as well.

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Like if you do a whole sky,

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I forgot about that.

293
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You could have put their name in it.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Flowers are great.

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I forgot about Christine.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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They were noticeable immediately.

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I know there's a perfect role.

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The first time.

302
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My mistake.

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The first time I drove in one, you know,

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I immediately, you know, hands together.

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So maybe what you can incorporate is one

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that has some dune flowers and grass.

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Yeah.

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Maybe we could put by

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the way, so a floral with some beach grasses, but not so much blank space at the time, but what you did was great, and I, you know, I'm the one that's like all about the flowers and everything, and I wasn't even going to say word because, yeah, terrific, don't change, I want to say, if you notice on international speedway, thank goodness they didn't put grass that would then require water, and what's lovely is it's a natural flower to plant and all

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all those little yellow flowers that are gorgeous, they will just take care of themselves.

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It's not going to have to have water and people to mow, so I'm tickled pink about that.

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Helen, do you know what the plan is?

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You know what it's worth?

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No, I don't know.

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In fact, we normally have the lady here that knows everything about plants.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I mean, it looks wonderful, yeah.

319
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And we could certainly do that everywhere.

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Anyway, I literally did this when I saw the flowers that were on those wraparounds.

321
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Yeah, I did a little Facebook post about just a couple of the boxes

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and people lost their minds, loved it, they think it looks great.

323
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Yeah.

324
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There was a couple of comments that are always there, but for the most part it was very, very well received.

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All right, next.

326
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Okay, two.

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So the next item, it was not included on the agenda. That is the one that we just added and we don't have any details.

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We just received the letter on yesterday, but we believe that since we're having the meeting today,

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we shall have a little discussion and see get your input if you like the idea on

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you know just just to have a discussion. Brief discussion.

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So

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this is we receive a

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letter of interest to lease and develop the city own property at 29 South Ocean Avenue.

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Savier, the PowerPoint.

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That's how it is similar.

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I'm familiar with those people. I've talked to them for quite some time and try to bring

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them in data. They're exceptional human beings.

338
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Well, let's look at the presentation first.

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Sorry. I got a little excited. I'm glad they came back.

340
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Okay, Xavier. Now the PowerPoint, please.

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So,

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as I said, staff receive a letter of interest for leasing and developing the 29th

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South Ocean Avenue property for a wind tunnel, is a new entertainment attraction that allows

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guests to experience body flight in a control environment.

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The applicant is the free-fold zone LLC, and we have the property owner here, if she can

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come up and give you more details.

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The free-fold zone, according to the letter, is a family-oriented entertainment attraction

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centered around a commercial outdoor vertical wind tunnel.

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The anticipated investment is approximately 1.3 million to 1.7 million, including all

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the equipment improvement, utility and permittance and all related improvements.

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So, the letter states that they are proposing a list framework, initial list term of five

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years, with three additional five year options to renew.

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Renekonomic terms to be negotiated, we don't have any details on that.

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The ability to construct, install, operate, maintain and improve the wind tunnel and act

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associated facilities and improvements.

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Ability to add a complimentary, family-oriented attractions and amenity in the future soared

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up to the Silicon Mission Approval.

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And they also want the ability to provide food and beverage services and life entertainment

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soared up to approval as well.

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City cooperation with applicable CRA grants financing, permitting utility recommendations, and any other development matters.

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This property, since it is in the CRA, we will have to advertise, do the 30 days notice, before we consider this. And again, I just want you to have the discussion and note, but we're

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doing that we receive the letter and see what you think about this one thing. Thank you, Angela.

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Angela? Yeah. Hey, sorry, you go for it. I just want to answer it. Just to go ahead and

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29th South Ocean Avenue for clarity is which lot? Is the vacant log between Breakers Park and

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And the parking lot, which Senior Frogs is going, okay, thank you.

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That's the current staging lot, right, for all the stuff.

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Yeah.

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That's for the C-wall and repair stuff we're doing.

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Mr. Wilk.

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Go ahead.

371
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I'm excited about stuff on B-side, I just wish it was, how far is it from the boardwalk?

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Just about a hundred steps.

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That's what I wanted to hear.

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So, anyway, just as my friend said on the far end there, if we start building this boardwalk up on it.

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Amy just made a good point. It will be on the boardwalk if the new extension goes across.

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That extension will go right in front of it.

377
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That was one of the other main question.

378
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And the other question is, so we're letting them increase.

379
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Is it every five years? Is there some kind of steps with safeguards with the city of these people?

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Aren't good stewards with the city that we can?

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So the lease will have to be negotiated.

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This is just strictly a letter of intent.

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There have been absolutely no terms discussed.

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So that would be-

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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No vetoes.

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So I'm excited about it.

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I'm on for it 1,000%.

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If we're not growing, we're dying.

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That's my whole philosophy.

391
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So thank you.

392
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Thank you so much.

393
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This is so much.

394
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Angela, thank you.

395
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Is a similar project anyplace else?

396
00:32:09,610 --> 00:32:12,810
Is one in operation already anyplace else?

397
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It's not anywhere nearby.

398
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Thank you.

399
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If you want to, if you want to, just Jill, come on up.

400
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Jill laps in 19 sharing can drive.

401
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There's not currently any operating in the US.

402
00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:34,980
There's one in the process of being installed, hopefully, in Las Vegas.

403
00:32:36,340 --> 00:32:40,460
There's one, we had to travel to Latvia to visit the machine and to try it out.

404
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,840
There's some operating relief Saudi Arabia, one in Ukraine.

405
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So this will be the first in the US. It's really exciting. It's really neat. There's other versions on the house where but this is the first from this company. Yeah, there's indoor versions all over the place that I fly, but this is an outdoor version.

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And what drove you to want to do this? You guys the group of you.

407
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My husband and I were skydivers, and we had kids and got away from that a little bit.

408
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So we started flying in my fly, but it's far away.

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And we thought that it would be really fun to have one nearby and we see all this opportunity

410
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for entertainment in Daytona and just to drive people back to that area and have them stick

411
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around and spend more money.

412
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And I think it could be a really good fit with the outdoor aspect of it, just the pictures

413
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is alone, of flying with the ocean behind you.

414
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I think it could be a really good fit.

415
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My kids love it.

416
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My nine-year-old twins, they fly all the time.

417
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It's 100% family-friendly.

418
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I mean, when we spoke about it in the parking lot,

419
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I don't know, a month, two months ago on accident,

420
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it was great.

421
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,260
I mean, it sounds like an amazing idea.

422
00:33:57,380 --> 00:33:58,320
It looks fantastic.

423
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,500
Ever since conversation, I've been looking at them.

424
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And like you said, there's nothing like it outdoor

425
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or that exists in the United States currently.

426
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,780
I've been a proponent of bringing all kinds of stuff

427
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like that over there, whether it's wave pools, this,

428
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anything we can get on the ocean over there,

429
00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:17,640
I think this is a great idea, personally.

430
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:20,120
Anybody else have anything to add?

431
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,780
No, it sounds.

432
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,740
Where do you go?

433
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All right, thank you.

434
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,040
So I know we're early, early, early, early in all of this stuff

435
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If are we looking to say to anybody that this is something we want to do or make a recommendation to review, you know, or do we have to do the 30 day process first before anything to be done.

436
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:45,520
We have to do the 30 day process.

437
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,160
All right.

438
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,840
That's my question. What is the 30 day process?

439
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It's a statutory requirement that we advertise that we have received a letter of interest in obtaining use of property either lease or sale.

440
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It's statutorily required.

441
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,120
And then other people have the ability to make bids to come to the table to do that.

442
00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:12,720
It's basically an open invitation for anybody to come to that table.

443
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,660
And it's a state, it's a state statute, so it's kind of so that you can't come in and go.

444
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:20,580
I'm going to buy this property and we don't find out until next week.

445
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:28,080
I'm curious, the one that's in Ukraine, how long have they been there?

446
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,040
Please

447
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come to the microphone.

448
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:42,070
That version is an indoor version as well, but it's the same manufacturer.

449
00:35:42,370 --> 00:35:43,130
Oh, okay.

450
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,700
Thanks.

451
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,180
All right.

452
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:51,080
That's awesome.

453
00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:52,000
It's very exciting.

454
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,660
So now we're going to go to public comments, right?

455
00:35:59,720 --> 00:35:59,960
Next.

456
00:36:00,460 --> 00:36:00,840
All right.

457
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,980
We've got to do yours under actual comments.

458
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,320
So it's coming up.

459
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,000
You hear it?

460
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Okay.

461
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:07,140
All right.

462
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,180
Public comments, please.

463
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,120
just John great let's go John.

464
00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:14,340
Good to see you and John.

465
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,360
John looks in 413 North

466
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Grandview Avenue so apparently you're discussing throwing out all of the

467
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,760
plans that have been done for the last 40 years for Main Street is that what

468
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:40,700
you've just decided I guess we decided nothing. There had been plans for

469
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:48,600
hotel at that site. Right now you're going to put in a restaurant and a game. And there's an

470
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:54,160
ongoing lease five years plus so many five year leases. So hotel, which is planned for that site,

471
00:36:54,260 --> 00:37:01,480
we're not going to put in. All right. So I didn't know. Yeah. This is like the second thing. There's a

472
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:08,220
there were plans for years to move Hollywood over next to the cemetery so that Hollywood would be a

473
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:15,080
straight street and that property then would be joined to the property next to it to have a much larger development property.

474
00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:25,320
Apparently staff is looking at selling city property on Hollywood to one of the residents there to put a fourplex.

475
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:32,120
So that would put a cabash on any development on that larger piece of property so then you're screwing that up.

476
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:44,940
So I'm wondering if, I think, personally, if you had the city had plans for things, if you're doing things that screw up plans that I think you all should know about it.

477
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:57,960
Like when you gave away the property on, was it all the under for a house for a midtown and then you gave away property on the grand view from midtown or midtown gave away your property.

478
00:37:58,340 --> 00:38:00,080
I think that's something you all should have discussed.

479
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,560
So anyway, regardless of that, there are things I like to talk about.

480
00:38:06,140 --> 00:38:13,440
One, I think it should be a issue downtown just had a presentation by, or the city commission

481
00:38:14,060 --> 00:38:22,000
for from Jack White on the theory, what do they call it, down, winding down.

482
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:26,340
So gave a presentation of things that needed to be done.

483
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,060
Housing is of utmost importance for downtown.

484
00:38:29,060 --> 00:38:32,100
Now, I think it is, I'm most important for Main Street.

485
00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:35,420
You need bodies, you need development.

486
00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:44,080
There was a apartment complex for this site that's going to be screwed up from a developer

487
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:49,280
that was going to be on Ridwood, all right.

488
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,460
He had a apartment complex there called Something East and then you guys were going to be something,

489
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,020
no, that was going to be something west, you were going to be something east.

490
00:38:57,020 --> 00:39:02,440
So they were going to put a parking garage and an apartment complex on this property, but

491
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,760
not that they won't be doing it if you give away the land or a poorplex.

492
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:11,160
So again, I think you should concentrate on that.

493
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:19,680
This last item that you passed is that loans or grants because in the past you just gave

494
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,000
50,000 away and they just took the 50 and walked.

495
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,840
So they're not using the term loan, so I'm kind of confused with it.

496
00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:29,220
They're the same thing or not.

497
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:29,860
I can answer.

498
00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:36,460
Improvements, I think you should target certain locations.

499
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:39,640
Because there's some houses in the area, especially Surfside Village,

500
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:41,660
that have been worked on that look nice.

501
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:43,840
Suzanne used to be on this commission.

502
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,620
We did her house in another property.

503
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,040
But there are other houses that you noticeably need some tender-loving Claire.

504
00:39:52,040 --> 00:40:08,000
So, if you could go to them and have an idea and say, well, we'll pay for this idea, it'll be a silent loan and then would you sell it or transfer it, the loan comes back to the city so we can use it on another house.

505
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,200
I'd like the idea of having a silent loan so that it could always be used.

506
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:22,780
They were meeting, I think it would be a benefit that there be things in the mainstream

507
00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:29,580
area for residents to meet, to discuss, to talk, whatever, whether it's an event or

508
00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:34,680
whether it's just a meeting, but the business people talk, but the residents still know

509
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,360
what's going on and I think there needs to be input from the residents.

510
00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40,360
You should start one day.

511
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Now the white head and I took a walk down and she had, well this was years ago, but she was on the commission.

512
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:53,140
But her view was that we have facade grants of $5,000 matching facade grants.

513
00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:59,060
What if we use that fund 5,000 to go down and hire this man to go down and say,

514
00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:01,880
if you did this to your building, if you did this to your building,

515
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,420
and more unified street, whether we want it to be historic,

516
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,060
whether we want to be modern, whether we want it to be art deco,

517
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,340
somebody said, whatever it is, the city would pay for it.

518
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:18,100
And it wouldn't cost them a dime, but everything would be done at once.

519
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,360
The entire street would all be done at the same time,

520
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,800
rather than one person do it this year, another one five years down the line,

521
00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:27,220
ten years down the line or never.

522
00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:37,920
The key asks, how and brought this up like 15 years ago?

523
00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:38,820
More than that.

524
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,240
So about four or five years ago when Angela got here,

525
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,020
she started working on the key asks.

526
00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:46,640
We're still waiting.

527
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,680
I think you all need an update on when we're and how it's going to come in.

528
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,560
And that's it.

529
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Thank you.

530
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:54,140
Thank you, John.

531
00:41:54,380 --> 00:41:55,320
Thank you, John.

532
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,360
That information that you were talking about that lot, is there any way you could email me that information?

533
00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:04,260
I appreciate you or share it with Angela and she can share it with us please.

534
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,300
All right, and that was last public comment. All right, now we'll go to

535
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,100
board comments and I'll start with you, Laura, if you're ready unless you want me to start.

536
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:21,600
I'll go ahead and start. So I would love some pointers on how things get on an agenda.

537
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:34,200
That would be a great schooling for me if there's a way for past items that we've talked about, do I need to make a motion to put things on the agenda?

538
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:37,660
I'm looking for procedural help here.

539
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:54,880
So, the procedure is, and I explained that before, so you send me the items as you have

540
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:03,300
done before or any of the board members, and I put it on the agenda as a board comment.

541
00:43:04,020 --> 00:43:11,500
And the reason why I'm a staff is doing that is because we do the agenda on our city system,

542
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:20,280
right? So you all don't have access to create that agenda. So any item that you all need

543
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:26,960
once you meet to put it on the agenda, we'll put it without any, you know, problem.

544
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:34,440
The only way that it will not be on the agenda is if you send me the request by email and

545
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,980
And I already sent out the agenda, and that's the normal process.

546
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:47,660
You send me an email before I create the agenda, I put the agenda on the board, the

547
00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:56,260
items on the board comments, and that's how, okay, so to me a board comment is a passing

548
00:43:56,260 --> 00:44:02,420
breeze on the, on the wind, it's not an actionable item.

549
00:44:02,420 --> 00:44:10,500
So, how can things be like, we have discussed kiosks for a year that I've been sitting here,

550
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:15,540
how does that become an actionable item that the staff then moves forward on?

551
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,840
Well, kiosks is an actionable item number one.

552
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:29,340
Number two, I have said in numerous occasions that the kiosks was going to be part of the

553
00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:35,040
main street improvement because we need to redo the utilities. So we have a

554
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:40,980
hold on the main street street escape because the business we had a meeting

555
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:48,520
with the business owners and they need to redo the concept. So the key is

556
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:55,020
was going to be part of those new concepts and I you know and it's okay. So the

557
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:59,980
The next thing is that Kiosk is not a commission priority right now.

558
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:13,860
You know, each kiosk, interactive kiosk is approximately $65,000. So that's something that we need to see if that would be, that would become a priority.

559
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:28,760
But it's still an action item because, you know, that's something that I had on my project list. I have a question. Originally, the kiosk,

560
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,120
originally, the kiosk,

561
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:38,180
was just this interesting thing stuck on the sidewalk, it listed the businesses that

562
00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:45,480
were on Main Street. Why do we have to go to 55,000 and have it part of a larger project?

563
00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:53,840
Why, while we're waiting for that to be okay? Why can't we simply have something with just

564
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,660
that we can tell people? Yeah, there's a store that's actually down there because there's

565
00:45:59,660 --> 00:46:06,000
So many empty stores and when people come in my store that just happened to be staying

566
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,440
at the Hilton and they had the courage to keep walking, then they go, oh my gosh, I can't

567
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,200
believe all the things that are up here.

568
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:19,340
So that's one of my questions and my other as long as I've got the floor for a second.

569
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,960
One thing that has really bothered me is for instance on Internet, and it's not your

570
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,020
fall to Angela, on international speedway.

571
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:36,260
We had the most incredible building changed over for the best and it was Beech's restaurant.

572
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:37,860
It was wonderful.

573
00:46:37,980 --> 00:46:40,460
Disney had designed the bathrooms.

574
00:46:41,020 --> 00:46:43,200
I loved sending people there.

575
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:50,060
Then the state, I think it was, decided they were going to change the way you could enter that.

576
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,560
And nothing was done to help them.

577
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,820
No way that let the public know.

578
00:46:55,820 --> 00:47:01,520
Well all you have to do is go up there and turn and you could get in there and the beautiful palm trees

579
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:09,700
they put there as the city or the state was digging it all up. They just died one by one and then the building

580
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:17,800
went bankrupt and I just think that's such a tragedy and I know you suffered when they were doing

581
00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:24,260
and many years ago I suffered when they first dug up Main Street and then found out

582
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:30,080
part was the county part was the city I wish there was some way that we could

583
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:37,620
anticipate these problems and when the kiosk now has been dead for I don't know

584
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:43,780
how long and I've given up on it I have other ways of getting advertising but I

585
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:51,360
hate to see beautiful businesses that added so much to now their bankrupt let

586
00:47:51,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Let me address the kiosk again, so I believe two years ago we paid, the CRA paid to clean

587
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:09,240
up the actual kiosk that we have, that is a standalone, has four sizes, huge things

588
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:12,080
that we can advertise, right?

589
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:20,160
and we have two generals information. One is with the grants of

590
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:26,140
fraternity and the other one is promoting CODB, City of the Tunna Beach. The

591
00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:33,360
two other sides are used by Peabody Auditorium with every time that they have an

592
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,840
event, they advertise it to the used two other sites. I've been working with Mr.

593
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:50,240
covering to for him to provide me all the open businesses on Mainstream. And that is the within 10

594
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:57,020
that we can bring those names, you know, with address and everything and place it there.

595
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:05,980
And that is ongoing, you know, I need to find somebody that designed that because it's a very

596
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:34,900
So I spoke to the CVB about doing brochures or whatnot for the businesses, what other things are going around, and they had a great idea about putting a QR code that way it could be updated as businesses open or close that they're having a hard side on the downtown Beach Street area keeping that brochure up to date.

597
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:41,260
So, maybe when you find your poster company to make the, what businesses are there, someone

598
00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:44,960
could just scan a QR code versus it being a stagnant list.

599
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:52,180
Yeah, but I have a question that QR code is going to direct to each business, one webpage.

600
00:49:53,580 --> 00:49:56,140
So, you know, the problem might be solved.

601
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,260
So is that become an agenda actionable item because it sounds like you are actually working

602
00:50:01,260 --> 00:50:04,320
on it that we didn't know that you were working on it.

603
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,720
So how do we get to know that you have been working with Tom?

604
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,720
So she wasn't necessarily working with me in the capacity as chair.

605
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:17,480
I'm also president of the Main Street Merchants, so she reached out because I have a list,

606
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,260
and unfortunately not everybody's answered back on it, so I'm having the doorknoc and go to each

607
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:27,380
individual business to get those. And so that's where that comes from. But we're working on it.

608
00:50:27,380 --> 00:50:32,380
We've compiled maybe, I don't know, 20 names at this point, roughly, and we've got a few more to

609
00:50:32,380 --> 00:50:34,740
I think we've got a total of around 50 businesses

610
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:36,760
between the little ocean half section

611
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,460
that we're going to get and Main Street.

612
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:42,280
So does, I know, I'm on the same topic just quickly.

613
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,020
Does Main Street merchants have a website

614
00:50:45,020 --> 00:50:49,420
that could have that list that was available by QR code?

615
00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:51,640
We don't currently have a website,

616
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,480
but we do have a Facebook page.

617
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,180
It's just called Daytona Beach Main Street.

618
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:58,400
And so we have that Facebook page running currently,

619
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,660
which we could probably put that list on there.

620
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:07,520
We do a it's a volunteer page. So the everybody that's on there that's actually has admin capabilities.

621
00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:12,620
We try our best to keep it updated and keep you know sharing new things, you know.

622
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:14,820
And so we could probably get that up on there for sure.

623
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,260
Then do like a little pinned topic. So it's always at the top.

624
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:23,600
And I'm not trying to be confrontational.

625
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:31,180
I just feel like we keep talking about the same things and they never seem to have a point of where we get to hear about it from the city.

626
00:51:31,180 --> 00:51:39,560
So, let's talk about the parking app that I spoke to the city about during the Citizens

627
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,040
Academy.

628
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,900
They said they were working on it.

629
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:49,060
It would be great if the staff could present an update on what's going on with parking

630
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,960
and how we've noticed a couple of parking signs, like just an update.

631
00:51:54,140 --> 00:52:00,340
Not like what are, you know, this is a finished project, but where are we with this conversation?

632
00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:00,780
Yes.

633
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,400
Do I need to make a motion to put that on the agenda?

634
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,000
No.

635
00:52:05,180 --> 00:52:11,740
No, I will need to check with the appropriate department and see if they have availability,

636
00:52:11,740 --> 00:52:14,740
of course, and they come and they present.

637
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,180
So because that was something that I wanted to talk about, that's why I sent it for an

638
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:23,780
agenda is have a staff presentation update on the parking app.

639
00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:24,220
Yes.

640
00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:24,360
Yes.

641
00:52:24,580 --> 00:52:30,960
So that's why I put it on the agenda is so hopefully that could be a topic that was discussed.

642
00:52:32,820 --> 00:52:39,640
Well, let me, Mr. Chair, if I may, whenever that topic came up, it's been several months

643
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:39,880
ago.

644
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:51,440
We reached out to a business in Michael Stahlworth and they do not have a, an app.

645
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Um, in matter of fact, I don't even think they're working on an app.

646
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,060
I don't want to speak out of turn, but I don't think they have one.

647
00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:03,840
So our stance to you today is that they don't have one.

648
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,860
If they do, if we find out some more information, we'll ask them to come forth to say,

649
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:12,760
Hey, give us an update on where you are, but there is no use to you.

650
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,440
You badgering us about something that is out of our control.

651
00:53:18,620 --> 00:53:24,200
We're not going to be able to give you what you want because there's a total separate

652
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,200
department that does all of the parking.

653
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:26,940
I don't want to.

654
00:53:26,940 --> 00:53:31,600
And we reached out to them and say, this is what our buyers or board want it.

655
00:53:31,820 --> 00:53:31,940
Yeah.

656
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,420
They don't have one.

657
00:53:33,620 --> 00:53:34,780
And we don't know.

658
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,140
And they didn't give us a direction on if they're going to get one.

659
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,480
So we can't tell you something that we don't have.

660
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,900
I appreciate that.

661
00:53:44,060 --> 00:53:44,340
Okay.

662
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,680
Definitely not badgering.

663
00:53:45,680 --> 00:54:15,460
And now one other thing about the parking, so I did see something, I did see something about the city and the county potentially working together on putting, it was a news story that the Volusia County whatever their parking companies called that the same app is going to be usable throughout the entire city of Daytona in city lots, I don't know whether that news story is accurate or valid, but I just saw that the city lots are

664
00:54:15,460 --> 00:54:21,960
supposedly going to be working together with Volusia County, so it's all just one thing.

665
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,440
And I hadn't heard anything at City Commission level of it, so it was news to me when I saw

666
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,200
the news story.

667
00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:30,140
I don't remember what station it was.

668
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,240
From a contract perspective, I have not worked on any contracts that would have anything

669
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,020
to do with that.

670
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:44,380
So I know I believe News Samona Beach was moving in that direction and they may have confused

671
00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:49,680
use new new smart of each but they don't of each, but I've not worked on any

672
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600
car related to that. Yeah, because I did hear about the new smart of one

673
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:59,560
too. So that's probably it. So just a quick thing. Does that mean that the

674
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:05,280
ocean center parking lot that I can see from my store? We can't use that

675
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:10,600
anytime even though it's sitting empty. I know graduation it's used and if

676
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:16,800
there's something going on, then of course we can't use it, but the rest of the time

677
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:24,120
it's it's empty. So there's not a parking problem, it's a accessibility of the, so have

678
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:31,260
we ever found out if we can use that parking lot and then make a lovely sidewalk that comes

679
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:37,020
to Main Street and all those people that come to those affairs would be able to come to Main

680
00:55:37,020 --> 00:55:55,540
I know, I know that Chair Jeff Brower, he and I of the county have talked about that parking garage, and that parking garage, the tenants that occupy Ocean Walk have requested of the county to make it free, but they couldn't have any, they didn't have any appetite for it at the county council.

681
00:55:56,020 --> 00:56:03,340
Now, maybe that'll change, maybe that'll be there, but as of right now, staff and the county council hadn't had an appetite.

682
00:56:03,340 --> 00:56:07,920
Jeff is excited about it and he thinks it makes sense, but that's the parking garage.

683
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:11,180
What about just the flat land that sits over there and I'm just saying?

684
00:56:11,180 --> 00:56:13,160
Almost all of that is county land.

685
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:22,600
And so we have to get to Lynn or the Ocean Center who actually has like a quasi-lease on that land.

686
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:26,640
And so if we're going to get it from them and we could ask the city to do it, I guess.

687
00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:31,840
But if we're going to ask them to do it, I know personally with Main Street merchants,

688
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:40,040
actions, we have leased the lot from them on the corner of wild olive in Main Street for

689
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:40,660
our events.

690
00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:41,780
We've signed a lease.

691
00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:46,640
I've had to get insurance through the organization to have that accessible to me when

692
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,620
we close our street for the Main Street Merchants events.

693
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,980
So I know that there's an appetite for it, but it's only when they don't have something major

694
00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:54,600
going on.

695
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,920
If they have something major going on, they have no interest in giving that up.

696
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,180
So there potentially could be a conversation there.

697
00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:06,140
I know that every time I've talked to them about opening up the parking lot,

698
00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:08,700
they've been pretty receptive as long as nothing's going on.

699
00:57:09,140 --> 00:57:13,860
Yeah, well, that's what I've been asking for a couple of years off and on and nothing happens.

700
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:15,800
I will try to get something for you.

701
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,080
Hey, honey, I love it.

702
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:17,640
Hey, Ted.

703
00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:18,900
A big hug if it works.

704
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,840
Hasn't there been preliminary discussions on the county renting that lot to the city?

705
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,020
I mean, we've already talked about that.

706
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,020
I mean, it's come up quite recently in the last six months.

707
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:45,840
It has been a fluid conversation over the last three months with the City Commission about the City manager brought to the,

708
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:56,180
I don't know if he brought it to the City Commission or not, but I know he mentioned it and publicly that the county had offered us the city

709
00:57:56,180 --> 00:58:12,560
to rent their property. We're excited about it. We're ready to go. And then it was, you know, of course pulled off the the table. So they rescinded the off well, no, no, no, we, it was never discussed.

710
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:13,420
Yeah.

711
00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:15,740
No.

712
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:26,720
So that's something maybe city manager can speak with the county.

713
00:58:27,140 --> 00:58:33,020
We're waiting for a direction yeah yeah because that's a conversation that individually

714
00:58:33,020 --> 00:58:40,500
we can have yeah exactly yeah yeah we had made a commitment by way of the city manager

715
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:46,880
After that, if we do get an opportunity to lease it, we would improve it, make it available

716
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,040
for the surrounding businesses in the public.

717
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:50,400
Sure.

718
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:59,420
A little bit about parking, because I was going to bring that up tonight.

719
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:07,240
I think it's obvious to people, you mentioned that whoever is in charge of parking is Michael

720
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:07,960
Stahlworth.

721
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:17,740
Okay, and what department is he business enterprise is in charge of parking. So Daytona Beach as a city doesn't have

722
00:59:17,740 --> 00:59:27,520
a parking czar or a parking department or anyone that is overseeing it as a whole and something that I've

723
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,400
What was the word not hard done, but it's like badgered

724
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:44,800
I'm saying it in a light hearted way and I was saying in a light hearted way that you know, so our hands attack we can't do anything you just got

725
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,660
We just got to keep bringing it up, right?

726
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,640
Should we go to the city meeting?

727
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:49,740
Hang on, yeah.

728
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:59,900
So it's something that I've tried to work on it, you know, from a numerous friends, from here, from speaking to individual commissioners.

729
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,200
Mayor. And I've had opportunities to meet with some staff members also. And I feel like we are

730
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:14,120
going to see some things soon. You know, I've spoken to at least one commissioner that has,

731
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,720
like, I don't know if it's going to happen at the next commission meeting, but I think soon there's

732
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:23,220
going to be a discussion about a little more organization of the parking or changing some ordinances

733
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:31,480
that are missing sections about parking so it can really clarify things and that's kind

734
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,660
of the start because right now if you did have an app what is it really where is it

735
01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:41,840
going to send people you know there's a couple little lots it might send I think it's

736
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,680
part of the overall discussion and I definitely if we need to do a thumbs up for an app it

737
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:52,800
should it definitely needs to happen. I think it'll kind of come as, you know, we keep pushing.

738
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,620
I'm not saying don't push, but I have a feeling we're going to see some things soon about it.

739
01:00:57,740 --> 01:01:04,200
And the city doesn't have to design and make an app. You know, there's apps and existence that the

740
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:10,240
city could, you know, you have to purchase it, have a software license or whatever and use it.

741
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:19,060
So once we have good lots, you know, our lots clearly defined and established and then I don't, I mean, so for me, I'm on the whole.

742
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:22,600
I think somebody needs to at the city needs to be in charge of parking, I will say.

743
01:01:22,660 --> 01:01:29,100
I think for me with parking, I've traveled around at least the state of Florida with the Main Street organization,

744
01:01:29,260 --> 01:01:36,020
Main Street, Florida Main Street, and we just had our preservation on Main Street in Coco Beach, and they don't charge for parking.

745
01:01:36,020 --> 01:01:41,020
parking. The parking is labeled very much the same way our parking is labeled. There's

746
01:01:41,020 --> 01:01:45,600
really no signs. They don't have a parking app that I know of. But everybody found it.

747
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Everybody got parking. It was there. But the difference there in Coco is it's all open.

748
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,300
There's not a single lot that's blocked off, taped off. There aren't towway signs everywhere.

749
01:01:58,820 --> 01:02:02,520
The only towway signs are in front of businesses, you know, for the business and themselves.

750
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:11,100
So everything over there was welcoming, you know, so you go, go to those places because all the parking lots are open.

751
01:02:11,860 --> 01:02:15,320
There, there's a lot more levity over there in those things.

752
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:23,200
So, so I was there for four days, and so I got to walk it, you know, went down to the beach, went over there.

753
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,280
So I think we do have some issues.

754
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:32,020
I don't know necessarily if, if the apps the solution, but I think opening and signage is definitely the first,

755
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:33,580
First, the first step in the right direction.

756
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,320
I wanted to add one thing, I was working with a group called right way parking.

757
01:02:39,420 --> 01:02:46,080
The gentleman that runs that used to be head of parking for the city of Tampa.

758
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,560
He's a good Mr. Middermit.

759
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:58,360
He actually, I set up a meeting with him in the mayor of, I think it's New Samaritan beach actually when I went down for a quarry mills thing.

760
01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:03,000
In general, I've been talking about coming.

761
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,740
They do have an app already because I've seen it going back and forth in the parking business in Tampa.

762
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,400
It's very effective.

763
01:03:12,220 --> 01:03:13,240
It works very good.

764
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,260
It raises lots of money for the city.

765
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,200
It costs a lot of money for the city to maintain these lots.

766
01:03:20,380 --> 01:03:23,960
I would love to have free parking for people, but the problem is there's nothing's free.

767
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,000
You've got to maintain a lot.

768
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:41,200
You got a re-ass fall that you got a, it costs over $15,000 of space to build when I think Vern is that about correct because I used to be a contractor about 100 years ago it feels so I kind of, I kind of love it.

769
01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:44,540
22,000 now? Is it 22,000?

770
01:03:45,940 --> 01:03:48,120
Not a garage, a regular parking spot.

771
01:03:49,740 --> 01:03:58,140
Yes, a lot more about million to two million dollars of floor for a parking garage. We're building a 10-story parking garage out in

772
01:03:58,140 --> 01:04:08,020
Tampa, so it gives you guys about two million dollars of a floor now. All right. Laurie, you said several a bit more? Yeah, so I'm sorry we got distracted about the word

773
01:04:08,020 --> 01:04:17,040
app, but I guess the idea would be having a this conversation that we've all had that we've learned a lot about. I wanted to also

774
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:23,380
So include what the city is saying besides, you know, can be able to give us a couple words about it.

775
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:37,760
So more of an official conversation that being said, like an official conversation about the, the peer and the advertisement on the peer, we've all complained, we've all said, gosh, there's advertisement on the peer.

776
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:43,060
And then we get, well, it's city advertisement, there's not supposed to be advertisement, there is advertisement.

777
01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:52,120
So how do we address that and do more than say that there's advertisement on the peer so my question to the city is

778
01:04:52,120 --> 01:05:01,320
How does that become a conversation? How does that become noted more than a board comment that Laura Fee mentioned? How does it become actionable?

779
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:28,460
If I can, I spoke with Michael Stowth and was the name of the advertisement, the roof.

780
01:05:29,380 --> 01:05:31,400
The roof is part of Joe's crop chat.

781
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:37,120
So we have a list with them and they are allowed to do advertisement in the pier.

782
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:45,580
here on the side of the pier. Yeah, and he also mentioned that we may be cautious on putting

783
01:05:45,580 --> 01:05:48,640
advertisement on the pier because we may be.

784
01:05:50,980 --> 01:05:55,040
Yes. So, and that that was just a conversation.

785
01:06:01,010 --> 01:06:07,270
That's that. That is news. I didn't say that miss fire. I didn't say that. I said that

786
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:11,770
We may be cautious. I don't have the lease agreement. I don't manage the lease agreement.

787
01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:17,010
So I'm just repeating based on the conversation that I have with Michael Stolworth.

788
01:06:17,370 --> 01:06:21,530
Perfect. So the the the peer I was I didn't realize that.

789
01:06:21,650 --> 01:06:25,390
I thought that they only had a lease on the underneath the old casino house.

790
01:06:25,390 --> 01:06:29,890
I didn't realize they had a lease on the entire peer from the from the front.

791
01:06:29,890 --> 01:06:31,070
I'm sure they have an easement.

792
01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:39,730
Well, my understanding is that they at least then that in order to, for them to be able to control who was on the peer.

793
01:06:41,470 --> 01:06:43,910
I'll send an email request. I'd love to see that at least.

794
01:06:50,900 --> 01:07:03,920
I think as far as the advertising on the side, at least in my almost two years on this board, I brought it up a bunch of times because I grew up with that.

795
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:09,000
I it was like that into my mid 20s. It was it was all there was always colorful

796
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,660
advertising on the pier saying go down Main Street go down Ocean Avenue with

797
01:07:13,660 --> 01:07:19,500
arrows with cool designs very beachy it was always that way so so in my

798
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:24,000
brain it doesn't look historic at all anymore. The pier does looks

799
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,640
absolutely anything but historic so I would love to figure out a way to get

800
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:39,540
that wheel in motion, because it would, we'd be putting paint on boards that desperately need paint, and it would be colorful paint.

801
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:49,140
As I said in past meetings, we could potentially sell each section as a rent to that person, and they replace the boards that are there.

802
01:07:49,580 --> 01:07:53,540
So it takes some of the money out of the city having to pay for these things.

803
01:07:53,540 --> 01:07:56,980
And we have yearly renewal terms.

804
01:07:56,980 --> 01:07:59,780
It's not for perpetuity, or maybe it's a three-year deal.

805
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:01,980
Whatever it is, they're required to do those things.

806
01:08:02,540 --> 01:08:04,360
There was a process for it.

807
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,220
The process existed before.

808
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:09,220
The peer, a lot of people don't know this,

809
01:08:09,420 --> 01:08:11,420
wasn't owned by the city before 2004.

810
01:08:12,020 --> 01:08:16,100
For 2004, it was a privately held peer since 1966.

811
01:08:17,140 --> 01:08:20,600
So that peer was run forever.

812
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:28,040
ever. And then before 1966, it was private for the other people. So I think that we need

813
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:33,940
to find a mechanism somehow, some way to do that. And I'd love to see that lease if I could

814
01:08:33,940 --> 01:08:37,980
get my hands on it. I'll go through it. And, you know, as a real estate guy, hopefully

815
01:08:37,980 --> 01:08:45,820
I can make sense of it and look at it. So is that now an actionable item? Is that going

816
01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:50,840
to be on the next agenda that we will have some sort of information about the pyramid.

817
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,260
So my opinion, if we want to make it actionable, we vote on it.

818
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,940
You know, that's the only way you get things done. So if you'd like to make a motion,

819
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:04,080
we say we would like to have information on how we can get that done. That's the only way to,

820
01:09:04,260 --> 01:09:09,660
in my opinion, that's how we got, so I want to go back to something you said about when you first

821
01:09:09,660 --> 01:09:17,180
started. This is why we have our comments. These aren't nonchalant things. That's how

822
01:09:17,180 --> 01:09:22,460
we just voted on the two-way roads. We were getting things done in these comments. So,

823
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:29,440
I think this is the best avenue and to do it this way. So, if we vote it, it now has to be

824
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:33,720
actionable. If we wait, there's no action that's needed. So, steering board comments, I say,

825
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,300
I want to make a motion that we see the lease for the advertisements on the pier.

826
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:48,400
correct. That is my motion. I second. All right. So we will need discussion. So if any public comment

827
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,280
would have to come up first since we made a motion.

828
01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:57,110
That's

829
01:10:00,410 --> 01:10:01,230
for once again.

830
01:10:03,690 --> 01:10:08,470
13 North Granford Avenue. Thank you Miss Murphy. I've been waiting 40 years for this. Have a good day.

831
01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:14,390
So, if we're doing comments.

832
01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:16,930
Last public comment, no more public, OK.

833
01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:18,390
So, yes, we can discuss.

834
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:22,590
Right out of my head.

835
01:10:23,550 --> 01:10:24,210
Anybody else?

836
01:10:24,750 --> 01:10:25,070
Yeah.

837
01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:26,270
Anybody else?

838
01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:28,870
Well, this really doesn't have a whole lot to do that.

839
01:10:29,610 --> 01:10:32,970
I know we've been dealing with the homeless issue.

840
01:10:33,390 --> 01:10:34,330
We're not talking about that.

841
01:10:34,330 --> 01:10:35,750
We have a motion and a second.

842
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:36,310
I second.

843
01:10:36,710 --> 01:10:37,450
No, we already have it.

844
01:10:37,490 --> 01:10:38,590
We're doing discussion on the pier.

845
01:10:38,590 --> 01:10:43,070
Yeah, I'm 100% for that period BC it'd be stupid not to get a copy of that you know what I'm saying

846
01:10:44,170 --> 01:10:47,890
So I'm 100% behind this isn't for the lease. This is for doing

847
01:10:49,070 --> 01:10:54,790
Painting advertising advertisements on the pier and finding discovery on trying how to get that done

848
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:59,510
Okay, well, I think that would be great to generate money if we can do it legally without being sued by the leases

849
01:10:59,510 --> 01:11:05,890
I think it's a genius idea sir. I think it's a genius idea you came up with so I like the idea of

850
01:11:05,890 --> 01:11:11,090
Um, having the least attached as an agenda item, you know, it could be linked.

851
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:15,650
And it's a, the next, it's a, it's a long document and there are multiple amendments.

852
01:11:15,970 --> 01:11:20,070
So just letting you know, if you can make it a clickable, you know, a click,

853
01:11:20,090 --> 01:11:24,290
when we get our agenda's next time, have it be an item and clickable.

854
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:25,270
That's in my mind.

855
01:11:25,290 --> 01:11:31,170
It's just to ask Ben gross what your opinion on our, our city attorney in the same office.

856
01:11:38,190 --> 01:11:39,390
I mean,

857
01:11:42,730 --> 01:11:47,510
I haven't read the lease in terms of signage and what's allowed and not allowed.

858
01:11:47,810 --> 01:11:56,030
So I couldn't tell you there's also the state submerged land lease that also would

859
01:11:56,030 --> 01:11:56,650
impact that.

860
01:11:56,650 --> 01:12:00,410
I would have to look at that because the state is very particular about how

861
01:12:02,170 --> 01:12:06,070
there are subversely and are used for profitable activities.

862
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:11,590
So, yeah, they might be interested in a roof hanging some advertising there.

863
01:12:12,610 --> 01:12:18,990
Yeah. So, there's, right, right. And as a point of reference,

864
01:12:19,490 --> 01:12:24,610
although this staff can ask for other staff members to attend the meetings,

865
01:12:24,610 --> 01:12:29,330
the staff members are not required to be here unless the city manager authorizes them.

866
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:37,070
So, that's one of the hurdles this group faces is that they can only do so much.

867
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:44,450
Okay, any further discussion on the peer advertisements?

868
01:12:45,210 --> 01:12:45,430
No?

869
01:12:45,710 --> 01:12:50,450
We got a motion in second, discussions over and all those in favor?

870
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:51,050
Hi.

871
01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:54,790
I posed, all right, I just can't wait to hear on that.

872
01:12:57,050 --> 01:13:03,670
So I will finish up with saying that there is a surfside village neighborhood Facebook

873
01:13:03,670 --> 01:13:09,230
page that I created for the residents of Surfside Village.

874
01:13:10,150 --> 01:13:16,130
I would love to have a Main Street business also feel like they could come on and know what

875
01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:17,830
the residents are talking about.

876
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:21,470
it is a private group because I want it to be for the

877
01:13:21,470 --> 01:13:26,250
neighborhoods, but just so that that's available. I'd love to

878
01:13:26,250 --> 01:13:30,090
come to I really would. We had our first little gathering

879
01:13:30,090 --> 01:13:33,570
and so it's becoming more of a just just for that little

880
01:13:33,570 --> 01:13:39,690
teeny wedge. Yeah, I just want to make you all cautious of the

881
01:13:39,690 --> 01:13:43,930
public meeting laws. No, I can't talk to her, but I can go to

882
01:13:43,930 --> 01:13:48,770
the meeting in here. Right. Right. But just, yeah. Yeah. But just on the Facebook page.

883
01:13:48,770 --> 01:13:54,830
Don't start because that is would be considered a meeting. So don't be posting on the Facebook page

884
01:13:54,830 --> 01:14:01,670
for other members getting into an exchange. Like one person could do a post and another one could

885
01:14:01,670 --> 01:14:07,630
do a post on a different topic. But you cannot be commenting and engaging in a conversation. If just

886
01:14:07,630 --> 01:14:17,550
a word of warning. Thank you so much. Okay. I could say right here to her out loud that

887
01:14:17,550 --> 01:14:24,310
only two issues if we could stop people from putting cat food out because there are

888
01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:29,850
kittens coming up and now they're actually trying to mate, which means we're getting

889
01:14:29,850 --> 01:14:31,970
into geometric progression.

890
01:14:33,290 --> 01:14:35,450
Yeah, that's one thing.

891
01:14:35,690 --> 01:14:38,270
Somebody, and some people know who they are,

892
01:14:38,490 --> 01:14:41,750
are putting cat food all around in my parking lot.

893
01:14:42,410 --> 01:14:45,610
And so they're giving, yeah, okay, that's,

894
01:14:45,690 --> 01:14:49,430
and I'm, yeah, I think you know who it is.

895
01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:53,450
That's, okay, that's one of my concerns.

896
01:14:54,030 --> 01:14:56,910
Another is, there's a dog down the street.

897
01:14:56,910 --> 01:14:59,030
I love dogs, but

898
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,360
I don't like to open my back door, and there's poop in my parking lot. And I have a dog, so I like to be able to. Anyway, that's the two things. Keep the dogs on the leash. And this is a black pit that's obviously had many, many, many puppies. And it just goes to the bathroom, not on a leash on my property in many places. So that's what I was going to bring up to the meeting. So now I don't have to worry about breaking that law.

899
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:43,780
I also wanted to talk about the breakers park that was on the city commission that they were talking about turning into taking out the fountain that I just wanted that to be a discussion.

900
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:51,100
So, I went to a meeting a while back, a city commission meeting, and I spoke up at that.

901
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:57,520
They have, I believe, put it on pause to get rid of the splash pad, and they're looking

902
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,600
into behind the Hilton from what I understand.

903
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:07,420
There's going to be a workshop regarding Breaker's part, so there's been no definitive decision

904
01:16:07,420 --> 01:16:08,100
of the direction.

905
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:08,480
Okay.

906
01:16:09,020 --> 01:16:09,240
All right.

907
01:16:09,460 --> 01:16:09,900
So, there you go.

908
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:14,740
Did, is this the time for us to talk about what we'd like to see, or is that later?

909
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,780
Sure, no, it's always the time. We're here.

910
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,000
All right. Well, I love the idea of a splash pad. Let's clean it up.

911
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,940
Let's take care of it. Let's maintain it. Let's make it happen.

912
01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:27,740
So the major issue from what I've heard from the city commission and staff that I've spoken to about it

913
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,880
is the maintenance of that particular splash pad.

914
01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:35,720
It's basically a fountain, right?

915
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,760
So everybody goes in and uses it as such.

916
01:16:40,220 --> 01:16:43,880
And it's just big jets that come up out of the ground

917
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:44,740
if you haven't seen it.

918
01:16:44,860 --> 01:16:48,620
And most splash pads that are on beach sides

919
01:16:48,620 --> 01:16:50,820
tend to be more of a closed loop system.

920
01:16:51,460 --> 01:16:53,580
And so they'll have like water buckets that dump.

921
01:16:53,780 --> 01:16:54,720
They'll have different things.

922
01:16:55,180 --> 01:16:58,020
The greatest thing about most splash pads is they're fenced.

923
01:16:58,980 --> 01:17:06,680
And they don't allow adults to go in the splash pad area without a minor in there.

924
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:14,880
So that would, in my opinion, would help drastically decrease what would go in the splash pad area.

925
01:17:15,380 --> 01:17:18,180
And that'll limit people to just cleaning their surfboards and the showers.

926
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:22,180
That'll limit people from cleaning their sandals to the showers.

927
01:17:22,340 --> 01:17:24,520
It'll go a long way.

928
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:43,460
So I think we could do, you know, if we're not replacing the splash pad and putting a whole new splash pad in I think just adding a fence and putting, you know, putting the wording on there, you know, not allowed unless accompanied by a minor however we want to word it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

929
01:17:43,460 --> 01:17:48,820
Okay, so I think that that would be the first step, right, because that will stop people

930
01:17:48,820 --> 01:17:51,360
from automatically thinking that it's an okay thing.

931
01:17:51,580 --> 01:17:56,160
Because if I were somebody walking up to my surfboard, I wouldn't know that it's going

932
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,980
to, you know, clog up the whole machine and blow up the pumps, but that's what's happening.

933
01:18:00,220 --> 01:18:05,680
So the city staff is blowing through money, replacing these pumps and repairing all of the

934
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:05,880
stuff.

935
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:08,360
Plus the splash pad is now long in the tooth.

936
01:18:08,740 --> 01:18:11,600
It's 20 years old or getting close to that.

937
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:18,080
So they're looking at major issues underneath that are all going to need to be replaced and repaired.

938
01:18:18,780 --> 01:18:24,400
So in my opinion, if we're going to do it, we have to keep the splash pad. Number one, you know, I agree.

939
01:18:24,580 --> 01:18:28,580
And then number two, we got to look at better designs. I went to, it's not on the beach,

940
01:18:28,580 --> 01:18:34,240
but I went to a park in Palm Coast, and that park has one of the most amazing,

941
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,800
It's 26 acres, Frank, something park.

942
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:41,540
Anyway, their splash pad runs the entire length

943
01:18:41,540 --> 01:18:42,940
of the kids area of the park.

944
01:18:42,940 --> 01:18:43,420
It's beautiful.

945
01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:44,780
It was just completed in 2024.

946
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:46,520
They're full update.

947
01:18:46,900 --> 01:18:48,300
So yeah, I think it's a great idea.

948
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,080
Yeah.

949
01:18:49,980 --> 01:18:52,920
I love the idea of having a splash pad and a playground.

950
01:18:53,540 --> 01:18:53,640
Yes.

951
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,960
We can have both.

952
01:18:56,180 --> 01:18:57,900
And if anybody can have a splash pad,

953
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,360
we should be able to have one that works.

954
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:07,660
And assign children 10 years old and younger, no adults, unless with a child or something.

955
01:19:08,440 --> 01:19:09,280
I mean, good heavens.

956
01:19:09,860 --> 01:19:14,820
And then I wanted to discuss e-bikes and the scooters.

957
01:19:15,580 --> 01:19:20,120
And I guess I'm kind of ambiguous and I don't understand the rules of scooters on the boardwalk.

958
01:19:22,780 --> 01:19:26,140
I know I got my very first ticket for rollerblading on the boardwalk.

959
01:19:26,140 --> 01:19:26,960
So

960
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:36,940
the e-bikes and scooters is a working progress that's about all that I can tell you.

961
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:47,440
There is a city code regarding scooters and micro mobility devices, you know, the code is what the code is.

962
01:19:47,660 --> 01:19:48,300
I don't know.

963
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,100
There was a proposed ordinance that was going to go to commission, it was not heard.

964
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,240
So again, I believe that's part of the topic of the workshop.

965
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,020
So it is in the Commission City Commission's hands right now.

966
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,880
I do know that it's already a law you're not allowed to ride your bicycle on a sidewalk.

967
01:20:03,780 --> 01:20:09,160
So, I mean, I don't want to over do it, but you're not allowed to ride a bicycle on a sidewalk.

968
01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:10,380
Pretty simple.

969
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,100
Is the boardwalk a sidewalk?

970
01:20:13,540 --> 01:20:18,320
So, for me, again, I'm older growing up here.

971
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:21,320
I've never been allowed to ride my bicycle on the boardwalk, right?

972
01:20:21,580 --> 01:20:23,100
So I don't know whether it is or isn't.

973
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:23,620
It's

974
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:39,450
pretty simple. My brother. Yeah, you're right. Oh Lord. All right. Thanks, Laura Tim. Anything?

975
01:20:40,910 --> 01:20:46,330
Sidewalks again. There's sidewalks on Main Street and people have told me they've always

976
01:20:46,330 --> 01:20:52,050
Almost been hit by somebody zooming by. There's there's signs all up and down Main Street

977
01:20:52,050 --> 01:21:00,330
And I think they just redid them that say no bikes on sidewalks. Okay. You're you're not allowed to have a bicycle in the state of Florida on a sidewalk

978
01:21:01,410 --> 01:21:12,650
It is dangerous and yet tourists tell me motorized will you got anything additional to add one thing about your own and this is this is something

979
01:21:12,650 --> 01:21:20,670
I'm not too sure about because I've I'm in this the fact is there was a thing at the last city commissioner about the

980
01:21:20,670 --> 01:21:29,790
homeless issues on the boardwalk. How is what's going on with that now and is there I had to deal with one recently because

981
01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:35,210
I helped people with addictions and one old gentleman, I guess he was like 70 years old.

982
01:21:35,710 --> 01:21:39,990
He had collapsed and they thought he was an addict so a guy proceeded to spray him

983
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:41,010
in the face with mace.

984
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:45,310
He wasn't an addict, he was actually having blood sugar problems.

985
01:21:46,150 --> 01:21:53,710
He looked like he was homeless because he was cutting his grass and decided to walk to 7-Eleven,

986
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:58,910
but that walk somehow he fell and collapsed and somebody actually sprayed him with mace and

987
01:21:58,910 --> 01:22:03,410
told him that he was, you know, a dirt bag. So is there possibly they could work towards a more

988
01:22:03,410 --> 01:22:07,970
humane way? And I actually read a case where guys sprayed a lady and I don't know if he got

989
01:22:07,970 --> 01:22:14,890
charged or was a police report on it. I sent that to the mayor. Is there, is there any kind of steps

990
01:22:14,890 --> 01:22:21,030
we're doing to help clean up the boardwalk? He mainly, I don't think they're doing that there. But

991
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:24,770
is there, we got to really help those businesses there because if they're all camping out with the

992
01:22:24,770 --> 01:22:27,170
children and families are it's really going to hurt the boardwalk.

993
01:22:31,930 --> 01:22:32,450
Passing me?

994
01:22:33,670 --> 01:22:34,370
I'll know.

995
01:22:34,690 --> 01:22:35,010
No, I'm kidding.

996
01:22:36,050 --> 01:22:40,470
The police have been down there quite a bit, and I think they're doing it very

997
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:40,990
humanely.

998
01:22:41,010 --> 01:22:42,510
I think they're doing a fantastic job.

999
01:22:42,530 --> 01:22:43,290
It wasn't the police.

1000
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:46,150
It was an individual sort of like a vigilante group.

1001
01:22:46,410 --> 01:22:47,810
Regardless of that.

1002
01:22:47,970 --> 01:22:55,150
I mean, we can't do anything about that, but I'll tell you the boardwalk itself from the

1003
01:22:55,150 --> 01:23:05,070
winter of 2025 to now is unrecognizable from what it was in a good way. So whatever they're doing,

1004
01:23:05,490 --> 01:23:11,630
you know, keep it up. I think they're being humane. I think getting it that way. The place is

1005
01:23:11,630 --> 01:23:16,990
cleaner. It's better looking. The bathrooms aren't, you know, just completely inundated with people

1006
01:23:16,990 --> 01:23:22,130
in them that go belong in them. They're still, I mean, they're still a long way to go, but it's way

1007
01:23:22,130 --> 01:23:30,190
I just, you know, I'm worried for both ends, but I'm really worried for the children and families because that's really what makes us, you know, this city of Daytona VH is bringing kids here.

1008
01:23:31,230 --> 01:23:42,130
So would this be a chance to request some numbers and facts at the next meeting about what's happening in the beach side police bicycle task force?

1009
01:23:49,150 --> 01:23:57,250
They do a report quarterly, and so they just gave us a report, and they said that just

1010
01:23:57,250 --> 01:24:00,010
in the first month that there was a hundred arrests, right?

1011
01:24:00,230 --> 01:24:05,490
And so here we are, we're only in August, so maybe give them, you know, they'll probably

1012
01:24:05,490 --> 01:24:08,970
come back to us in September or October anyway, just because that's what they're supposed,

1013
01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:09,410
yeah.

1014
01:24:09,410 --> 01:24:15,410
Yeah, so I would say it's coming, you know, because they said quarterly reports, and that was our April report

1015
01:24:15,410 --> 01:24:18,090
So it's got to be coming up soon. Oh,

1016
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:30,070
I've already spoken enough. No, it's fine as an observer. I

1017
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:33,550
Think this meeting's probably the most unique

1018
01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:35,590
Since I've been on the board

1019
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:38,760
You know

1020
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,320
It's really up to you folks

1021
01:24:43,380 --> 01:24:45,060
To put it to the city

1022
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:51,040
And so they can get the answers for you to answer your questions.

1023
01:24:53,360 --> 01:25:02,720
It's, you know, it's a tired saying that, I don't know, the answer should be, I'll get

1024
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:03,520
you an answer.

1025
01:25:06,220 --> 01:25:13,400
And I commend every one of you up here because state tona, this is one of the things that

1026
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:14,440
hurt state tona.

1027
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:27,640
is the downtown area and a lot of people saying I don't know and I commend every one of you and that's all I have to say.

1028
01:25:29,570 --> 01:25:30,130
Sammy?

1029
01:25:31,850 --> 01:25:45,090
Okay, so I'll just kind of kick off on that note. I do, I try to ask my commissioners and I know we each have one commissioner that we,

1030
01:25:45,090 --> 01:25:49,450
the, you know, is art for our area, whichever the one that happens to be.

1031
01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:55,730
But emailing a commissioner, especially if you have, you know, if you can find a responsive

1032
01:25:55,730 --> 01:26:02,070
one or two, is a great way to communicate to staff, because they're kind of early days

1033
01:26:02,070 --> 01:26:03,010
on with staff.

1034
01:26:03,130 --> 01:26:06,890
And I understand, you know, we're sitting up here, we can ask these guys certain questions,

1035
01:26:06,890 --> 01:26:13,050
but it is kind of the city manager kind of, you know, can decide what, like, who needs

1036
01:26:13,050 --> 01:26:17,870
to come and talk to us and the answers, so, but I would encourage everybody to, you know,

1037
01:26:18,490 --> 01:26:23,830
call your city commissioners, establish relationship and ask questions and you'll be surprised

1038
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:29,770
how much information you could get. And, you know, sometimes the stuff that I come with

1039
01:26:29,770 --> 01:26:35,170
is conversations that I've had with city commissioners and that they've brought to me from staff,

1040
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:42,790
so that's also a good way to get things done. Or to learn things and then bring them to share

1041
01:26:44,130 --> 01:26:44,910
with us.

1042
01:26:46,930 --> 01:26:51,390
Let's see, what do I want to mention first? So one of the things I, you know, I kind

1043
01:26:51,390 --> 01:26:58,370
of knee jerk this past, you know, a week or two ago was I was in the post office and I looked

1044
01:26:58,370 --> 01:27:07,090
out at the wayfinding sign that was still like this from Hurricane Milton. And I, you know, so I took a

1045
01:27:07,090 --> 01:27:13,030
picture sent it in to see click fix and the answer was that we're about to get bids

1046
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:17,370
on repairing those signs. Do you guys know anything about that?

1047
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:26,650
So I believe what you're referring to are the original ITB, the contractor that was

1048
01:27:26,650 --> 01:27:33,250
selected, did not fulfill the contract, didn't even really start. And so they did have to regroup

1049
01:27:33,250 --> 01:27:37,510
and try again, so there was no fault of anybody in the city.

1050
01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:38,530
Right.

1051
01:27:39,010 --> 01:27:41,190
It was just the times going on.

1052
01:27:42,190 --> 01:27:44,930
But I thought I'd mention that for anyone who's seen that sign

1053
01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:45,590
or there's problems.

1054
01:27:45,790 --> 01:27:48,770
I think there's a few of them that need to be repaired.

1055
01:27:49,290 --> 01:27:51,110
Hopefully that's going to happen soon.

1056
01:27:54,170 --> 01:27:54,690
Okay.

1057
01:27:54,690 --> 01:27:58,870
The streetscape we talked about a little bit.

1058
01:27:58,870 --> 01:28:08,090
But the bike week master plan revision was discussed at the last city commission meeting.

1059
01:28:08,350 --> 01:28:18,830
The revision that was done back like two years ago, July of 2023, and it popped up again

1060
01:28:18,830 --> 01:28:23,990
and there was a discussion about it, a little confusion back and forth, whatever, but it wasn't

1061
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:38,710
discussed as an agenda item, but it was, you know, Rose was there to take questions and so on, but I just wanted to let people know that the revision, I think I don't know if it'll be on the next city commission agenda, but I think it's going to come up again soon.

1062
01:28:38,970 --> 01:28:50,770
So if you have input or interest in what that revision is or you want to kind of refresh what it was in your mind and say anything during the meeting when it's presented.

1063
01:28:50,770 --> 01:28:56,750
keep an eye for that item coming up because that definitely affects our area and you know I have two or

1064
01:28:56,750 --> 01:29:05,370
three cents about it and I'm contacting my commissioners and about anything that I am interested in

1065
01:29:05,370 --> 01:29:14,190
on that topic so that's that and the other thing I did this past you know week was I you know the

1066
01:29:14,190 --> 01:29:27,700
business about the show windows on Main Street having unsavory, you know, t-shirts and items hanging.

1067
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:34,220
And, you know, none, you know, we're all adults here, but we do understand that there's a level

1068
01:29:34,220 --> 01:29:39,600
of what we want to present to families and what we want to bring in, and nobody wants to be the party

1069
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,680
but there's got to be ways to address this.

1070
01:29:43,860 --> 01:29:49,680
So I just asked A.I. which I hate to do it because like, you know,

1071
01:29:50,260 --> 01:29:53,820
an artist and I hate to, you know, I just hate to give up and ask A.I.

1072
01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:56,000
But there's a lot of information you can gather.

1073
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,880
So I asked A.I. the question, has any meanness

1074
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,500
Pallity, been successful in controlling or limiting adult themed displays in show windows, visible to the public, or are such displays completely protected by the First Amendment. And, you know, there were, there were some answers of ordinances and things in other states and cities that actually passed muster depending on how they're written and how they're well crafted and the limits.

1075
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:53,740
So I thought it was interesting enough and positive enough that I shared it with one of my commissioners and I'm hoping that something will come of that at least the discussion won't end there with, you know, what we've been told before is that if we don't want to get, you know, generalizing, but if we don't want anybody to sue us, we let them put what they want in the windows.

1076
01:30:53,740 --> 01:30:58,280
So I'm hoping that that discussion will carry on.

1077
01:30:58,540 --> 01:30:59,900
So that's all I think.

1078
01:31:00,220 --> 01:31:01,620
There is an answer to that.

1079
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,600
I simply told the people that rent from me, that offends me.

1080
01:31:06,860 --> 01:31:08,360
I don't want it in my store.

1081
01:31:09,140 --> 01:31:13,280
If it's not totally offensive, if you want to have it in the back,

1082
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:14,840
where the public can't see it.

1083
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:16,260
But you-

1084
01:31:16,260 --> 01:31:17,880
The store is talking about that.

1085
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:22,500
I understand that, but I can only control what my property is.

1086
01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:31,070
and I simply said I don't want it there and it's not there so yeah all right

1087
01:31:31,070 --> 01:31:39,110
Mr. Gary how far have we gotten on the Christmas decoration discussion that we

1088
01:31:39,110 --> 01:31:44,770
have concerning Waller something to decorate a one-a for the holidays

1089
01:31:46,190 --> 01:31:51,970
on anywhere because we kind of talked about it at the end of last summer yeah

1090
01:31:51,970 --> 01:31:57,170
And I sent the request to David, and I included you.

1091
01:31:57,970 --> 01:31:59,570
Because I've called him and left him a message.

1092
01:31:59,750 --> 01:32:04,930
There is an RFP for the city's holiday lights displays.

1093
01:32:05,810 --> 01:32:06,650
I would have.

1094
01:32:07,230 --> 01:32:07,730
That'd be nice.

1095
01:32:08,050 --> 01:32:10,170
I don't know what was included in that.

1096
01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:16,450
In terms that they provided a geographic areas of what they went decorated or not.

1097
01:32:16,990 --> 01:32:18,850
But I can get that information.

1098
01:32:19,030 --> 01:32:19,410
That'd be nice.

1099
01:32:19,410 --> 01:32:27,990
And I'm going to follow up with David again, because I know when speaking to David at one of the meetings is like you got to get started at the beginning of the year.

1100
01:32:28,530 --> 01:32:31,290
I did. I actually got started last year.

1101
01:32:32,090 --> 01:32:38,090
So, you know, just seeing what all these other cities are doing and the impact it has during the holidays, especially,

1102
01:32:38,090 --> 01:32:43,450
Turkey Rod, you know, we got some people in town. It's actually a busy time of

1103
01:32:43,450 --> 01:32:49,110
year. It's it's and makes a nice impression on visiting tourists and you

1104
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:53,150
know they might want to come back again. And to that point on the lights, and I've

1105
01:32:53,150 --> 01:32:58,810
mentioned this before, October they were up early for a

1106
01:32:58,810 --> 01:33:04,990
Biketoberfest this last year. And when Bike Week rolled around, I had so many

1107
01:33:04,990 --> 01:33:09,930
customers and vendors that came and we're so disappointed we didn't have those lights up in March.

1108
01:33:11,030 --> 01:33:16,610
So again, when we're looking at these RFPs, potentially looking at having them all the time,

1109
01:33:17,030 --> 01:33:22,710
just like Beach Street, you know, I don't see any reason why we don't. It would look beautiful.

1110
01:33:23,330 --> 01:33:27,110
You know, you get some lights that have the ability to change three colors and I know we've

1111
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:30,230
talked about it before I won't spend too much time, but yes, great idea. Let's just get on it.

1112
01:33:30,230 --> 01:33:39,510
I think the state is looking to move forward with eventually doing landscaping on A1A.

1113
01:33:41,660 --> 01:33:43,300
I don't even know what to say about A1A.

1114
01:33:43,420 --> 01:33:44,340
A1A is a mess.

1115
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:45,020
It is.

1116
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:50,420
Someone in the city actually told me there were 50 change orders.

1117
01:33:51,060 --> 01:33:55,360
They have taken a $15 million project and probably ballooned it past 25 million.

1118
01:33:56,120 --> 01:34:01,840
It is incomprehensible that something like that could turn out so pathetically bad.

1119
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:08,060
that. Everybody is complaining about it. The signage, reworking the streets, it's embarrassing.

1120
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:13,480
So now we're going to talk about landscaping. Maybe it would be good to get ahead of

1121
01:34:13,480 --> 01:34:19,600
the landscaping issue and have someone from the city who's responsibility will be to maintain

1122
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,920
the landscaping, get with the people from the state, and make sure we do something that's

1123
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:31,240
nice appealing and easy to maintain because they did not make ISB easy to maintain. That

1124
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:36,560
is a lot of work and I guess our plate is full. It's hard for us to maintain anything that we have.

1125
01:34:36,700 --> 01:34:41,760
It's an uphill battle. So let's try to make it a little bit easier to maintain. This way,

1126
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,560
you know, it'll look appealing throughout the year without a lot of work.

1127
01:34:48,580 --> 01:34:53,420
Let's kind of piggybacks on the little kiosk idea, which not little, but the kiosk for Main Street.

1128
01:34:53,420 --> 01:35:02,420
I said that if we were ever to come up with some unified idea on marketing a calendar for

1129
01:35:02,420 --> 01:35:06,280
all of our events throughout the whole year, we've got the overpass going to the Ocean

1130
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:11,180
Walk, and then the peer thing was obvious, I don't know why I didn't think of that before.

1131
01:35:11,620 --> 01:35:18,420
There should be some kind of year-round calendar even on the peer itself showcasing what

1132
01:35:18,420 --> 01:35:31,940
Daytona offers. We've got Beachreach. We've got all kinds of stuff going on in Daytona.

1133
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:37,040
Some of these tourists don't even know. It's actually happening. So it'd be nice to have some

1134
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:43,040
kind of simple unified calendar on the pier and maybe the other pass going to Ocean Walk.

1135
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,520
Let's see, fighting,

1136
01:35:48,780 --> 01:35:52,500
and the only thing that would be left was just badgering about the

1137
01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:53,040
lighting again.

1138
01:35:53,940 --> 01:36:00,820
That, I will, that, because we're terrible at it, and it's not the city's fault so much.

1139
01:36:00,980 --> 01:36:04,760
FPL is a terrible corporate partner for Daytona.

1140
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:06,600
It's embarrassing.

1141
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,480
They should be ashamed of themselves, actually.

1142
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,160
I complained about 20 lights before the summer.

1143
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:12,980
I said, you know what?

1144
01:36:12,980 --> 01:36:21,500
it be nice, maybe we improve our safety appearance going from the shores to ISB. I call back another

1145
01:36:21,500 --> 01:36:26,420
month and a half later. I think it was two months later. What's happening? Are we doing anything?

1146
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:32,320
Or, you know, we're just trading notes on people's deaths. Hey, this needs to be addressed. So

1147
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:39,920
anyway, that's a constant problem up and down all of it. If you don't give the appearance of it being

1148
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:44,480
well lit and safe. You know, what do people think when they come here? Half of our lights don't work

1149
01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:49,720
half the time. I had them come out to the cemetery. I don't come out to the cemetery because there was

1150
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,840
a bunch of lights down and they they maintain all those lights. Literally the the line was broken.

1151
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:58,600
They came out and fixed the line and the lights don't work. So they fixed the line and all the lights

1152
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,680
now flashed. It looks like a haunted cemetery.

1153
01:37:03,460 --> 01:37:05,920
It's like, call them. I'm like, guys, why? Oh, we didn't

1154
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:10,040
didn't realize I should have. Okay. I see lights flash on day 1 a for a month and a half,

1155
01:37:10,180 --> 01:37:16,000
two months. I said, not your tape, anybody but me. All right.

1156
01:37:19,340 --> 01:37:21,380
Thanks. I had one more thing to say.

1157
01:37:21,500 --> 01:37:28,300
I'm sorry. I want to say that 150th birthday party for Daytona Beach was out of this world. Well,

1158
01:37:28,340 --> 01:37:36,060
done. It was a great experience. We attended, I think, everything that the city had given us to attend

1159
01:37:36,060 --> 01:37:38,060
and it was just all of it was a chef's gift.

1160
01:37:38,440 --> 01:37:39,180
So good job, city.

1161
01:37:39,540 --> 01:37:40,280
Yeah, I thought it was great.

1162
01:37:40,620 --> 01:37:43,200
I went to all four days as well

1163
01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:45,100
and it was a lot of fun.

1164
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:48,240
Went to each place, went to Cypress Park.

1165
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:49,340
What's Cypress Park called now?

1166
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:50,520
Is it still Cypress Park?

1167
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:51,780
Yeah, okay.

1168
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:52,920
I went to Cypress Park pool.

1169
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:54,620
I thought I had a different name now too.

1170
01:37:54,780 --> 01:37:55,940
What's the, the gem that's there?

1171
01:37:56,700 --> 01:37:57,720
Yeah, the cherry.

1172
01:37:58,220 --> 01:37:59,620
The cherry, the cherry, the cherry.

1173
01:37:59,620 --> 01:38:00,040
Cherry center.

1174
01:38:00,220 --> 01:38:01,900
Yeah, so I've got to go in there.

1175
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,220
I hadn't been in the building before,

1176
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:04,480
but I got to check that out.

1177
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:11,360
Yeah, super nice the did the water slide, but we played at this pool in this flash pad until the thunder came and then we had to bolt

1178
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:16,920
Yeah, but it was it was fun. One short. Yes, I'll one short thing. I wanted to

1179
01:38:17,540 --> 01:38:23,480
Commend all the other members on this one. I was really kind of impressed with you and you know all of you actually

1180
01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:24,620
We all

1181
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:31,020
So we're starting a way of getting something done and making me laugh at the same time at the same time

1182
01:38:31,020 --> 01:38:34,300
I wanted to thank Angela and Ken because they've done so much

1183
01:38:34,480 --> 01:39:04,320
at the same time because years ago when I was here in the, I know some people like the Chisholm era but it wasn't really good for me and I had to mix up at 326 South Grandview to where my church is now it was there was a dividing line put down the middle where half was made residential and half was commercial so I couldn't I come and try to put my church and I ran to it was before Angela then after Angela when Angela got here Angela found a solution

1184
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:10,280
said, oh, it was a mix-up in the New Sandy Manager. And Ken, I'm not going to always pick

1185
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:14,440
one in Badger Ken today, but I might actually give him an up here, because he actually

1186
01:39:14,440 --> 01:39:18,860
solved that problem and helped save my church, so I appreciate you both. Thank you.

1187
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:24,220
All right. Thanks, Will. And we should have Anne stand up here and give us some of the

1188
01:39:24,220 --> 01:39:24,960
answers, too.

1189
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:32,320
Maybe next meeting. I have something, Mr. Chairman.

1190
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:43,620
I have something also to add, September, our next meeting is September 9th, and it's the same date as the public hearing, the budget public hearing.

1191
01:39:43,940 --> 01:39:48,460
So we will have to either cancel this meeting, the next meeting, or reschedule.

1192
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:49,700
It is up to you.

1193
01:39:53,940 --> 01:39:57,320
In my opinion, I think we've got to reschedule it, right?

1194
01:39:57,420 --> 01:39:58,480
I don't think we cancel it.

1195
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,980
We've got so many things going on, and next thing, you know, after September, we're in October.

1196
01:40:02,980 --> 01:40:05,260
So I think we have to re-schedule.

1197
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,140
We've got bike toberfest coming up.

1198
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,580
We've got a lot of stuff to talk about.

1199
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,100
This master plan thing is there.

1200
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:12,720
We've got some actionable items.

1201
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,400
So I don't see that any way that we cancel it.

1202
01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:21,460
So it will be the schedule for the following is the 16th.

1203
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,880
Oh, so I'm not going to the public commission meeting.

1204
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:27,180
No, that's what we're saying.

1205
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,500
The meeting that the new to the, it was moved

1206
01:40:30,500 --> 01:40:39,580
So the 9th public hearing is the point of public hearing is on September 9th and the 23rd.

1207
01:40:39,580 --> 01:40:42,620
Oh no that's the 2nd.

1208
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:50,860
The city commission meetings including the budget hearings are being moved to September 9th and September 23rd.

1209
01:40:50,860 --> 01:40:54,020
So they're not happening at all on the 1st and 3rd.

1210
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:58,540
Do we have a motion to move it to the 16th or do we need one?

1211
01:40:58,540 --> 01:41:05,420
So we don't need a motion and we'll definitely have to double check that this room is available on that day. Okay. All right.

1212
01:41:05,500 --> 01:41:10,260
It should be, but I don't know the 16th of the second, just in case it's the second option.

1213
01:41:11,340 --> 01:41:17,760
I'm like a second option. I'm okay with either. I don't know that staff would have enough time to do Wednesdays, but I don't know.

1214
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:26,340
Okay, 16th. 16th. It should be free because normally it is a city commission meeting, but we just need to confirm with a quick.

1215
01:41:26,340 --> 01:41:35,600
But this is quick. Where Teresa used to have property, it's just an empty building there,

1216
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:41,780
and it's a parking lot. I've had tourists ask me, will I be towed if I just parked there?

1217
01:41:41,860 --> 01:41:46,440
There's no sign at all on that, I don't know if it was a garage.

1218
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:47,720
It's next to the-

1219
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:48,500
You mean a garage from Boothill?

1220
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:54,100
Yeah, exactly. So I had now two occasions where tourists said,

1221
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:56,160
and I parked there, is it legal?

1222
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:57,660
Will I be towed?

1223
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:58,640
It's private property.

1224
01:41:58,760 --> 01:41:59,460
I have a property.

1225
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:00,560
Yeah, it's private property.

1226
01:42:00,860 --> 01:42:01,400
They probably take their tickets.

1227
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:03,660
It's a roulette.

1228
01:42:03,940 --> 01:42:06,720
Yeah, it's not city property.

1229
01:42:07,060 --> 01:42:08,420
And it's privately owned.

1230
01:42:08,900 --> 01:42:10,900
That would be just like if I decided to park

1231
01:42:10,900 --> 01:42:12,640
behind your building and you're parking lot.

1232
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:14,000
Yeah, you know, it's fine.

1233
01:42:14,260 --> 01:42:14,340
Yeah.

1234
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,820
But I mean, so do I tell that there's-

1235
01:42:17,820 --> 01:42:19,040
You need to know how that took start.

1236
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:19,300
Right.

1237
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:19,980
Oh, yeah.

1238
01:42:20,540 --> 01:42:21,420
It was okay.

1239
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:34,020
Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's within our part of you, I, I, yeah, I just was curious

1240
01:42:34,020 --> 01:42:39,040
if anybody knew, yeah, all right, I'll be super, super brief.

1241
01:42:39,540 --> 01:42:45,140
I just want to, again, thank everybody for staying late and appreciate everybody's hard

1242
01:42:45,140 --> 01:42:49,920
work on making some decisions, you know, in the, I feel in the, you know, a few months

1243
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:56,740
We've been doing doing this as chair I appreciate how we're all coming together coming up with great ideas staff

1244
01:42:56,740 --> 01:43:04,060
Been super accommodating everybody just is doing a great job. So that's all I got not gonna add anything else today. Thanks