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» but anybody that knows anything

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installed
everything.

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» It's really cool.

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Wonder how they read.

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» That's the way I read it, too. Their
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going
>> let's make sure we define what happen

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» and then of course they're going to be
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» I read it especially and I

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» Well, I appreciate you. I I didn't
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» they gave us

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» about that long,
>> but only about that much of it.

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» But it's good to hear this.
>> We agree.

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» Yeah. Okay, we got that down.

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Just let go.

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Oh yeah.

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» This conference will now be recorded.

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Good evening. I've got six o'clock on my
clock. I like to call the skateboard.

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» Roll call.
>> Martin

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Templan.
>> Yes.

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» Lane.
>> Yes.

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» Huggin. Melbourne,
>> yes. Mock,

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» yes.
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» here.
>> Mr. Chairman, it looks like

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Commissioners Martin and uh Huggin are
absent today.

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» Thank you. Item three, general business,
approve the planning commission agenda.

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Any changes or corrections to be made to
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» Seeing none. Motion.
>> Motion to approve the agenda.

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» Second.
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» I. Oppose. Same sign.
Thank you.

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Item 3B, disclosure of conflicts of
interest. Anything to disclose tonight?

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Seeing none, item 3 C, disclosure of
outside communications regarding

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commission business. Obviously, you were
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setting of the special meeting. But
beyond that, is there anything you need

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to disclose?
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Item four, call the public. Members of
the public who wish to address the

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planning commission regarding items not
on the agenda may do so at this time.

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Any presentations forformational
purposes only. No action will be taken.

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There's a 4-minute time limit. Anyone
want to wish to address the planning

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commission? Please give your name and
address the podium.

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Seeing none, I don't think we have
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I will close the call to the public.
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Consider the final plat phase one for
Flint Meadows East. Brad.

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» All right. Thank you, chairman. I
appreciate everyone coming in tonight.

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Hopefully we can get through this fairly
quickly and won't be too much of a

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disruption for your evening. Uh what you
have before you is the final plat for

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final plat phase one for Flint Meadows
East. As you recall at the previous

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planning commission meeting, I brought
up the fact that we had to the developer

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had to shift Rowan Road 30t to the east
and put it entirely on their property

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which caused them to lose some lots.
didn't want to have to bring back a

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preliminary plat for your approval, but
it wanted to at least give you the

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option. Seemed like everybody's in
agreement that the preliminary plat this

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was not a significant change, even
though they did lose several lots on

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this process. With that, we do have the
final plat for phase one of Flint

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Meadows East. The applicant represented
by Steve Harter is here tonight. So, if

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you have any questions for them, you can
certainly ask it. There really isn't

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much of a change other than the fact
there's a reduction of lots. There's 47

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total lots on the plat. There are 10
tracks. Four of those tracks are for

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detention. Three are for the larger town
homes that will be coming back later as

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a site plan. Then there's two
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And then there's a track I'm not sure
why that isn't a lot, but maybe the

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applicant explained that, but it looks
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believe. But uh other than that, it's
pretty straightforward. I did initially

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send out a draft copy of the uh final
plat, but I did follow up with a we did

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get the signed versions from the
surveyor this afternoon. I did send

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those out. And what is in your packet
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did update that with the final plat that
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signed by the registered surveyor. So,
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And like I said, representatives from
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» Thank you, Brad. Questions for Brad?
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want to reiterate um at the last
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having the special meeting. I expressed
my concerns about having a special

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meeting.
Uh, I didn't like it. Um,

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I don't want to set a precedence that we
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be at developers beg and call uh to set
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planning commission four years. Uh, I
believe this is the second special

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meeting we've had. Correct me if I'm
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developer.
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I sympathize with your concerns.
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know that planning commission meetings
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month. So, I, you know, plan my schedule
around the fourth Tuesday of every

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month. I take this position very
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And I've had to adjust my schedule to
meet your request. I'm here. I'm not

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happy about it. I am supported the
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way.
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So, I am support of the project, but I'm
not happy to be here tonight and I would

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request
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for that reason. This is a voluntary
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So that said, that's all I've got.

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» Um, might be for the applicant. So what
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1G? Those are what are those for?
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that those?
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» Okay.
>> Would that also be one J and one A? Are

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those also town home tracks? Can I just
assume that anything that's not named a

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lot is going to be for a town home?
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through just because they are
technically multif family, they'll come

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through with a site plan with
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» For approval at that time.
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That's all the questions I have. I'm
sorry. Give us your name and address for

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the record.
>> Yes. Yeah. Steve Harter, address 3515

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West 75th Street, Prairie Village,
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» Steve, while you're there, um, and this
I suppose is for Brad, but certainly you

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can answer it, too. Um and and
I completely agree with your sentiment

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on doing a special meeting in order to
address this issue. It's an unusual

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issue and in that
>> you know the the city apparently doesn't

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wish to obtain the right away on a
neighboring property. So how be that as

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it may, it's not really my problem
either. So I get that. Um, my concern

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with this is that we did approve a
preliminary plat that had road

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alignments and we're approving a final
plat that is not consistent with that.

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I'm assuming you have prepared a revised
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because that has all six phases in it.
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preliminary plan because we
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» we talked about this being a minor
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administratively done but felt it was
important to bring it to your attention

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and planning commission agreed that this
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process to follow without having to go
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I I appreciate that, but I've got five
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» my my concern is that at least the city
should have a revised preliminary plat

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how this is going to line out road
alignment because I'm guessing you're

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not just going to dovetail in to that
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» No, no, it's it's shifting the road for
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» probably get squared up at some point.
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that over
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essentially done.
>> We've actually done it. just never have

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given to say just because
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» and I think it's a matter of putting
probably be part of this not necessarily

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for formal action the final but I think
that plat because this is the only one

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I've got and I had to go back and dig it
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» I guess that's I suppose my comment on
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it's really helpful to have the
preliminary plat be part of the package

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um but I it did concern me that we've
changed the road alignment on that and

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this doesn't match up with plat anymore
so every time we come up with we're

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going to have to kind of pick through it
again, especially since you're reducing

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the number of lots in order to make this
thing fit,

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» right?
>> So, I suppose that's maybe a comment as

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opposed to a question, but I I do think
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» uh to the extent that we are approving a
final plat, we have the city ought at

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least have a firm preliminary plat that
that matches that.

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» Yeah. Can we get that, Patrick? I don't
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» Yeah.
>> set your schedule.

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» We we we have performed we prepared that
already and we could probably have for

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you tomorrow. I figured you had I mean
moving the road 30 feet and getting read

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a lot. So
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just had it.
>> We'll get it to you tomorrow is what I'm

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hearing.
>> Yep.

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» Any other comments, questions
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» Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» I do want to say I understand everything
you said, heard you loud and clear. I

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don't want to be here as well. Um, and I
understand everyone has families and

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made sacrifices to be here. And I want
to say we greatly appreciate it. And

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this project has put a lot of stress
because of this road issue right now and

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um timing of getting things done and and
delivering lots when we're supposed to

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deliver lots to this home builder. Um,
but heard you loud and clear and totally

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understand. So, thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Well, this is not a public hearing. to
the matter before the commission. Anyone

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want to speak or comment?
>> I've said my piece.

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» I'll follow up with mine. I this Rowan
road doesn't end here and so we are

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moving that road and how that aligns
with the rest of the road corridor and

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what we're planning. I realize it's not
a huge change, but it is I think more

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than a minor change and it's one that I
think we ought to at least

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have an appreciation of that and and be
mindful of the fact that we are moving

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the road here and you know maybe it
won't make any difference in the future,

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but I sure hate to have us have it come
down the section line and then all of a

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sudden have it curve to get the right
alignment. We've got to think about

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that. So, um,
if if staff's comfortable with it, I'm

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not going to stand in the way of it
either, but it just struck me as

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something that's more than minor,
something that kind of needs to fit.

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» So, I I'm glad you took the time to
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» Would would it be inappropriate to make
a motion that said says that the

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preliminary plat needs to be included
within X, you know, sent within a

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certain number of days or hours?
I don't think it's inappropriate. I

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don't know that I I trust that they will
do it. Um I don't know that we need to

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have the teeth of it in the motion.
>> Okay.

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» Um and I I do think Brad, when you get
it, you probably ought to publish it to

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the commission so we can at least have a
next phase come.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay. Because it's we're talking about

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phase one and there's five phases, but
we're also talking about um these multif

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family lots. We're going to have to come
through here as well, right? So, we're

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going to be actually probably 10 times
we're going to be looking at this thing

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over the next however many months and
years.

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» I think it'd be good to have a good a
reliable preliminary plan anyhow.

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» Yep.
>> So, I I wouldn't oppose it, but I don't

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think I would require it either.

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» Any other comments, concerns?

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No motions?

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I'd make a motion to approve the final
plat for phase one of the Flint

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uh Meadows East. Meadows East uh item 5C
in our agenda today.

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» Moved and seconded. Any further
discussion?

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» Roll call.
>> Templan.

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» Yes.
>> Lane,

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» yes.
>> Milbourne,

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» yes.
>> Med,

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» yes.
>> Schultz,

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» yes.
>> Motion carries.

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Thank you.
I believe that concludes our agenda for

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tonight. Um, next regular meeting of the
planning commission is August 26th.

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Any further business to come before the
commission.

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» Thank you all for making the time.
>> Thank you very much. Really appreciate

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it.
>> Motion to adjurnn.

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» Motion to adjurnn.
>> Second.

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» Second.
>> Second.

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» Thank you.

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Oh,
>> you're all right. You'll be here. Good.

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Good. Good. Good.

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» We can go on down.
>> Yeah.

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» All right.

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» Thank you, guys.
>> Yep. Thank you.