[0:02] I just can't
move on,
[0:08] » but anybody that knows anything
[0:18] installed
everything.
[0:28] » It's really cool.
[0:35] Wonder how they read.
[0:40] » That's the way I read it, too. Their
engineer said homeale and I was like
[0:48] going
>> let's make sure we define what happen
[1:00] » and then of course they're going to be
like well you should know that
[1:07] » I read it especially and I
[1:16] Yeah, very true.
[1:19] » Well, I appreciate you. I I didn't
realize I missed a call, but
[1:26] » they gave us
[1:37] » about that long,
>> but only about that much of it.
[1:41] » But it's good to hear this.
>> We agree.
[1:44] » Yeah. Okay, we got that down.
[1:51] Just let go.
[2:17] Oh yeah.
[2:32] » This conference will now be recorded.
[2:52] Good evening. I've got six o'clock on my
clock. I like to call the skateboard.
[2:58] » Roll call.
>> Martin
[3:01] Templan.
>> Yes.
[3:03] » Lane.
>> Yes.
[3:04] » Huggin. Melbourne,
>> yes. Mock,
[3:07] » yes.
>> Schultz,
[3:08] » here.
>> Mr. Chairman, it looks like
[3:10] Commissioners Martin and uh Huggin are
absent today.
[3:13] » Thank you. Item three, general business,
approve the planning commission agenda.
[3:18] Any changes or corrections to be made to
the agenda?
[3:22] » Seeing none. Motion.
>> Motion to approve the agenda.
[3:27] » Second.
>> Moved and seconded. All in favor say I.
[3:30] » I. Oppose. Same sign.
Thank you.
[3:34] Item 3B, disclosure of conflicts of
interest. Anything to disclose tonight?
[3:42] Seeing none, item 3 C, disclosure of
outside communications regarding
[3:45] commission business. Obviously, you were
all had communication regarding the
[3:49] setting of the special meeting. But
beyond that, is there anything you need
[3:52] to disclose?
Okay.
[3:57] Item four, call the public. Members of
the public who wish to address the
[3:59] planning commission regarding items not
on the agenda may do so at this time.
[4:03] Any presentations forformational
purposes only. No action will be taken.
[4:06] There's a 4-minute time limit. Anyone
want to wish to address the planning
[4:10] commission? Please give your name and
address the podium.
[4:15] Seeing none, I don't think we have
anyone online.
[4:19] I will close the call to the public.
Brings us to item seven or new business.
[4:25] Consider the final plat phase one for
Flint Meadows East. Brad.
[4:30] » All right. Thank you, chairman. I
appreciate everyone coming in tonight.
[4:34] Hopefully we can get through this fairly
quickly and won't be too much of a
[4:37] disruption for your evening. Uh what you
have before you is the final plat for
[4:42] final plat phase one for Flint Meadows
East. As you recall at the previous
[4:46] planning commission meeting, I brought
up the fact that we had to the developer
[4:51] had to shift Rowan Road 30t to the east
and put it entirely on their property
[4:57] which caused them to lose some lots.
didn't want to have to bring back a
[5:01] preliminary plat for your approval, but
it wanted to at least give you the
[5:05] option. Seemed like everybody's in
agreement that the preliminary plat this
[5:09] was not a significant change, even
though they did lose several lots on
[5:14] this process. With that, we do have the
final plat for phase one of Flint
[5:19] Meadows East. The applicant represented
by Steve Harter is here tonight. So, if
[5:24] you have any questions for them, you can
certainly ask it. There really isn't
[5:28] much of a change other than the fact
there's a reduction of lots. There's 47
[5:32] total lots on the plat. There are 10
tracks. Four of those tracks are for
[5:38] detention. Three are for the larger town
homes that will be coming back later as
[5:44] a site plan. Then there's two
construction tracks along Rowan Road.
[5:49] And then there's a track I'm not sure
why that isn't a lot, but maybe the
[5:52] applicant explained that, but it looks
like it. It's on 102nd Terrace. I
[5:57] believe. But uh other than that, it's
pretty straightforward. I did initially
[6:02] send out a draft copy of the uh final
plat, but I did follow up with a we did
[6:10] get the signed versions from the
surveyor this afternoon. I did send
[6:15] those out. And what is in your packet
actually what's on the website now, I
[6:19] did update that with the final plat that
is
[6:24] signed by the registered surveyor. So,
with that, I'll stand for any questions.
[6:28] And like I said, representatives from
Flint are here tonight as well.
[6:33] » Thank you, Brad. Questions for Brad?
>> Really no questions for me. Uh, I just
[6:40] want to reiterate um at the last
meeting. Brad brought this up about
[6:45] having the special meeting. I expressed
my concerns about having a special
[6:51] meeting.
Uh, I didn't like it. Um,
[6:55] I don't want to set a precedence that we
can
[6:59] be at developers beg and call uh to set
these meetings. I've been on the
[7:06] planning commission four years. Uh, I
believe this is the second special
[7:11] meeting we've had. Correct me if I'm
wrong. It's been with the same
[7:15] developer.
I understand there's delays.
[7:19] I sympathize with your concerns.
Um, again, I'm not happy being here. I
[7:25] know that planning commission meetings
happen at the fourth Tuesday of every
[7:28] month. So, I, you know, plan my schedule
around the fourth Tuesday of every
[7:34] month. I take this position very
seriously.
[7:37] And I've had to adjust my schedule to
meet your request. I'm here. I'm not
[7:44] happy about it. I am supported the
project.
[7:49] Um,
I'm glad you're here. Let's put it that
[7:54] way.
Um, yeah.
[7:59] So, I am support of the project, but I'm
not happy to be here tonight and I would
[8:05] request
we do not have a special meeting again
[8:11] for that reason. This is a voluntary
position.
[8:17] So that said, that's all I've got.
[8:25] » Um, might be for the applicant. So what
what's the intent for track 1E, 1 F, and
[8:29] 1G? Those are what are those for?
>> Yeah, those are for the town tracks. Is
[8:35] that those?
>> Yeah.
[8:38] » Okay.
>> Would that also be one J and one A? Are
[8:45] those also town home tracks? Can I just
assume that anything that's not named a
[8:49] lot is going to be for a town home?
>> Correct. Yeah. And those will be run
[8:52] through just because they are
technically multif family, they'll come
[8:55] through with a site plan with
elevations. Got it.
[8:58] » For approval at that time.
>> Got it. Okay.
[9:13] That's all the questions I have. I'm
sorry. Give us your name and address for
[9:16] the record.
>> Yes. Yeah. Steve Harter, address 3515
[9:19] West 75th Street, Prairie Village,
Kansas.
[9:22] » Steve, while you're there, um, and this
I suppose is for Brad, but certainly you
[9:26] can answer it, too. Um and and
I completely agree with your sentiment
[9:33] on doing a special meeting in order to
address this issue. It's an unusual
[9:37] issue and in that
>> you know the the city apparently doesn't
[9:41] wish to obtain the right away on a
neighboring property. So how be that as
[9:46] it may, it's not really my problem
either. So I get that. Um, my concern
[9:51] with this is that we did approve a
preliminary plat that had road
[9:54] alignments and we're approving a final
plat that is not consistent with that.
[9:59] I'm assuming you have prepared a revised
preliminary plat
[10:05] because that has all six phases in it.
>> Yeah. No, we've not received a revised
[10:09] preliminary plan because we
>> my my concern is
[10:13] » we talked about this being a minor
change that normally we could have it
[10:17] administratively done but felt it was
important to bring it to your attention
[10:21] and planning commission agreed that this
was an appropriate
[10:27] process to follow without having to go
back through the whole preliminary plan.
[10:31] I I appreciate that, but I've got five
more phases to this. And
[10:36] » my my concern is that at least the city
should have a revised preliminary plat
[10:40] how this is going to line out road
alignment because I'm guessing you're
[10:43] not just going to dovetail in to that
along the way.
[10:46] » No, no, it's it's shifting the road for
all
[10:49] » probably get squared up at some point.
>> I think Patrick, we can probably have
[10:52] that over
>> very soon. I mean, the line work is
[10:56] essentially done.
>> We've actually done it. just never have
[10:58] given to say just because
>> I figured you probably had
[11:01] » and I think it's a matter of putting
probably be part of this not necessarily
[11:05] for formal action the final but I think
that plat because this is the only one
[11:09] I've got and I had to go back and dig it
out and right
[11:12] » I guess that's I suppose my comment on
this is is Brad when we have final plats
[11:17] it's really helpful to have the
preliminary plat be part of the package
[11:20] um but I it did concern me that we've
changed the road alignment on that and
[11:24] this doesn't match up with plat anymore
so every time we come up with we're
[11:27] going to have to kind of pick through it
again, especially since you're reducing
[11:30] the number of lots in order to make this
thing fit,
[11:32] » right?
>> So, I suppose that's maybe a comment as
[11:35] opposed to a question, but I I do think
that
[11:38] » uh to the extent that we are approving a
final plat, we have the city ought at
[11:41] least have a firm preliminary plat that
that matches that.
[11:45] » Yeah. Can we get that, Patrick? I don't
want to
[11:48] » Yeah.
>> set your schedule.
[11:50] » We we we have performed we prepared that
already and we could probably have for
[11:54] you tomorrow. I figured you had I mean
moving the road 30 feet and getting read
[11:57] a lot. So
>> yes, we we had already mapped it out. We
[11:59] just had it.
>> We'll get it to you tomorrow is what I'm
[12:02] hearing.
>> Yep.
[12:07] » Any other comments, questions
either for the applicant or for Brett?
[12:13] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[12:16] » I do want to say I understand everything
you said, heard you loud and clear. I
[12:21] don't want to be here as well. Um, and I
understand everyone has families and
[12:24] made sacrifices to be here. And I want
to say we greatly appreciate it. And
[12:29] this project has put a lot of stress
because of this road issue right now and
[12:33] um timing of getting things done and and
delivering lots when we're supposed to
[12:38] deliver lots to this home builder. Um,
but heard you loud and clear and totally
[12:43] understand. So, thank you.
>> Thank you.
[12:47] » Well, this is not a public hearing. to
the matter before the commission. Anyone
[12:50] want to speak or comment?
>> I've said my piece.
[12:58] » I'll follow up with mine. I this Rowan
road doesn't end here and so we are
[13:04] moving that road and how that aligns
with the rest of the road corridor and
[13:09] what we're planning. I realize it's not
a huge change, but it is I think more
[13:13] than a minor change and it's one that I
think we ought to at least
[13:17] have an appreciation of that and and be
mindful of the fact that we are moving
[13:22] the road here and you know maybe it
won't make any difference in the future,
[13:26] but I sure hate to have us have it come
down the section line and then all of a
[13:30] sudden have it curve to get the right
alignment. We've got to think about
[13:34] that. So, um,
if if staff's comfortable with it, I'm
[13:40] not going to stand in the way of it
either, but it just struck me as
[13:43] something that's more than minor,
something that kind of needs to fit.
[13:47] » So, I I'm glad you took the time to
come.
[13:49] » Would would it be inappropriate to make
a motion that said says that the
[13:54] preliminary plat needs to be included
within X, you know, sent within a
[14:00] certain number of days or hours?
I don't think it's inappropriate. I
[14:05] don't know that I I trust that they will
do it. Um I don't know that we need to
[14:09] have the teeth of it in the motion.
>> Okay.
[14:12] » Um and I I do think Brad, when you get
it, you probably ought to publish it to
[14:16] the commission so we can at least have a
next phase come.
[14:19] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Because it's we're talking about
[14:22] phase one and there's five phases, but
we're also talking about um these multif
[14:28] family lots. We're going to have to come
through here as well, right? So, we're
[14:30] going to be actually probably 10 times
we're going to be looking at this thing
[14:34] over the next however many months and
years.
[14:36] » I think it'd be good to have a good a
reliable preliminary plan anyhow.
[14:39] » Yep.
>> So, I I wouldn't oppose it, but I don't
[14:42] think I would require it either.
[14:47] » Any other comments, concerns?
[14:54] No motions?
[14:59] I'd make a motion to approve the final
plat for phase one of the Flint
[15:06] uh Meadows East. Meadows East uh item 5C
in our agenda today.
[15:14] » Moved and seconded. Any further
discussion?
[15:19] » Roll call.
>> Templan.
[15:21] » Yes.
>> Lane,
[15:22] » yes.
>> Milbourne,
[15:23] » yes.
>> Med,
[15:24] » yes.
>> Schultz,
[15:25] » yes.
>> Motion carries.
[15:27] Thank you.
I believe that concludes our agenda for
[15:32] tonight. Um, next regular meeting of the
planning commission is August 26th.
[15:38] Any further business to come before the
commission.
[15:43] » Thank you all for making the time.
>> Thank you very much. Really appreciate
[15:48] it.
>> Motion to adjurnn.
[15:50] » Motion to adjurnn.
>> Second.
[15:53] » Second.
>> Second.
[15:56] » Thank you.
[15:59] Oh,
>> you're all right. You'll be here. Good.
[16:02] Good. Good. Good.
[16:07] » We can go on down.
>> Yeah.
[16:09] » All right.
[16:13] » Thank you, guys.
>> Yep. Thank you.