[0:01] All right, we'll go ahead and get started with the uh mayor board meeting [0:06] August 11, 2026. [0:14] Alderman Meadows. >> Alderman Meyers [0:17] » here. >> Alman Oddinger [0:19] » here. >> Alman Peyton [0:20] » here. >> Alman Roland [0:21] » here. Alman Ward [0:26] and America [0:37] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with [0:44] liberty and justice for all. >> Let's pray. Dear heavenly father, we [0:48] thank you for another wonderful, beautiful day here in the cater. We ask [0:53] your blessings on this proceeding tonight. We ask that you uh also as the [0:59] children head back to school watch out over the students, the teachers, the [1:03] faculty, staff, everyone, everybody going dropping off, picking up, please [1:07] help them all be safe this year. We ask you to watch over our military wherever [1:12] they may be around the world. and we ask you that everything that is done and [1:17] said here tonight be pleasing unto you. Please bless our country, our state, our [1:22] county, and our town. For it is in your name we pray. Amen. Amen. [1:32] » All right. Is there anybody here wishing to address the board that's not [1:35] currently on the agenda? Do we need to make the motion to adjust the agenda? [1:42] That's going to do it. Thanks. Okay. All right. If not, uh, I'll make a [1:47] motion to change the agenda or add an item to agenda. Add the sewer rehab [1:52] change order to new business. [1:56] If I get a second on that second, [2:03] the first >> are you you were the first [2:10] couple. >> Alderman Meyers. I [2:14] » Alderman Oddinger. >> Yes. [2:15] » Alman Peyton. >> Yes. [2:17] » Alderman Roland. >> Yes. [2:20] » All right. We'll add that to the last thing on new business. [2:29] All right. Cons agenda items. Any questions from the minutes from July [2:35] 14th? [2:40] If not, we'll move on to the financial report. Any questions or discussions? [3:21] If not, we'll move on to police chief. [3:26] » Yes. So, just [clears throat] want to make everybody aware this is probably [3:29] going to be my last time here for a board meeting. Uh, over the last two [3:33] months, I've been in the employment process with another agency and I [3:38] accepted the job. It's a conditional job offer about two weeks ago. I don't know [3:44] my official start date, but more than likely probably September the second. [3:52] I appreciate everybody for giving me this opportunity. [3:56] Appreciate you. >> Thank you. We appreciate you. [3:59] » Great job. >> Thank you. [4:06] » All right. Moving on to fire. Chief. >> Yes. We had a [4:11] uh TVA uh give us $1,000 for a grant to match a [4:17] BEC grant. So, at the end of it, we're going to get around $2,000. [4:23] uh by the end of the next month we'll get the rest of it. So uh that was [4:27] pretty good. >> Thank you. [4:33] Any questions? [4:37] » All right, moving on to public works. Okay. [4:41] » Uh the patches got complete where the trailer moving company to work main [4:45] street. Uh the guys already paid the bill. Um, I had some other areas looked [4:52] at with some complaints. I'm supposed to be getting some more estimates [4:57] that they were supposed to get with me earlier this week and I still haven't [4:59] heard anything from them. So, I've only got one estimate so far from a company. [5:03] I'm going to wait till I get some more to share those with you. [5:08] » What road was that area? >> It was in North Park Circle and Husville [5:13] Lane. Okay. And the clear well is up. It's complete. [5:20] Uh it's scheduled to be disinfected on the 17th. And when that's all good, [5:26] we'll be able to put it in service. [5:30] All I got. Any questions. [5:39] » All right. I'll entertain a motion to pass the consent agenda items. [5:43] » Make a motion. I'll second. [5:51] » Alderman Myers. >> Hi. [5:52] » Alderman Oddinger. >> Yes. [5:54] » Alderman Peton. >> Hi. [5:55] » Alderman Roland. >> Hi. [6:02] » All right. Uh, no phone communications. Uh, attorney [6:07] attorney mains could not be here tonight. So, we'll move on to engineers. [6:12] » Jeff stole my phone. uh ARP project still uh moving along. [6:19] We're in uh communications with EY grand administrators uh for the ARPA money [6:26] making sure that we're within timelines and hidden budgets and stuff. Uh sewer [6:30] rehab is pretty well wrapped up. Um I think there's a couple driveway patches [6:36] to be done. Um and then the uh sewer pump station is [6:43] online as of think what they pull plug last Thursday. [6:48] » So it's online. I just stopped by there today to make sure that the manual [6:52] diversion is doing well. Uh so that pump station's online uh clear well as Jeff [6:58] said will be online next week. Um, both of those are pretty much just waiting on [7:03] finishing touches, getting penc. So, a lot of projects are wrapping up for you [7:08] guys. Um, and [7:13] some may not be exactly on time, but they're on budget. [7:19] That's it. >> Two questions. [7:25] Everything is looking to be spent by September 30th, right? All [7:40] right. Uh, the planning commission meeting did not meet tonight. No quorum. [7:44] We'll move on to parks rec. The bathrooms are complete. Has the lady [7:50] with our grants coming inspected and everything's $9. She'll be getting the [7:53] money soon. Uh, and we're still looking at the movie [7:58] night October 23rd. That's a Friday, which there's a ball game, but it's at [8:02] off Denise. So, that a lot of people might not make that [8:06] trick. So, come to the park and watch Hocus Pocus. Bring your chair, bring [8:13] your blanket, and bring some money to buy some popcorn. [8:18] But movies free [8:23] in the field the >> Well, we're gonna we're gonna meet next [8:27] the week before September 1st and see what we think. [8:32] Talk with Joshua now. He'll just there's no way to cut some of the lights off, [8:38] but they may be able to to add some controls to the tops of the lights so [8:42] you can do it with the phone and shut them off for a while. But I don't know [8:46] how much that is. We'll have to wait on that. So, the backup plan is to do it [8:50] underneath the shed. It'll be dark enough. That's why we're going the first [8:53] to make sure. [9:00] All right. Uh, move on to new businesses. [9:07] » Alman Rowan has a statement. >> Yes, Mayor Arwin, members of the board, [9:12] and the citizens of Decar. Um, tonight I speak to you not only as an alderman, [9:17] but as someone who believes I was denied fairness, transparency, and due process [9:22] by the very people entrusted to uphold them. The handling of the grievance by [9:27] Mayor Irwin fired against me, filed against me, demonstrates the disturbing [9:31] pattern of unequal treatment, withholding of information, selective [9:36] disclosure, and disregard for town procedures. Mayor Irwin, on Tuesday, May [9:42] 5th, I directly asked you for a copy of the griev grievance filed against me. [9:47] You refused to provide it. At that time, you and reporter Smith had already been [9:52] in possession of this grievance for 15 days. 15 days. I was forced to submit a [9:58] public records request just to see what the accusations were being made against [10:02] me. Even worse, the withdrawal letter was withheld from me for 31 days. Not [10:09] one day, not one week, 31 days. For 31 days, that letter existed while I was [10:15] left in the dark. For 31 days, my name continued to appear on agendas and [10:21] meetings and workshops, on Facebook, and in the local newspaper. For 31 days, [10:27] people were allowed to believe this grievance was still active, still [10:30] unresolved, and still legitimate, even though the document should have ended [10:35] with already in your possession. For 31 days, the truth sat hidden while my [10:40] reputation was being questioned in public. [10:44] When I submitted a public information request and contacted reporter Smith, [10:49] she told me she did not have the withdrawal letter, that the mayor had [10:52] it, and attorney mains would need to be asked before it could be released to me. [10:57] That means the letter was not misplaced, it was not forgotten, it was controlled, [11:01] and it was withheld. And during that 31-day period, Mayor Irwin, you [11:06] instructed attorney Mains to make an offer to me through my attorney. This [11:10] occurred on Monday, May 25th. If I apologize and agree to attempt to [11:15] refrain from the actions complained of, moving forward with an investigation [11:21] would be taken off the table. That was 5 days after the withdrawal letter had [11:25] been in your possession. In other words, the matter was still being used as [11:29] leverage against me. But here's the truth. Mayor Irwin and Attorney Mains [11:35] did not follow procedures required by town ordinance 4-210. [11:39] At no point did the mayor ask me to sit down and resolve the grievance. At no [11:44] point did the mayor ask for my version of the the events. No evidence was [11:49] gathered. No interviews were conducted. I have been judged without due process. [11:54] Many of you decided guilt before facts. You turned procedure into politics. [12:00] I needed to hire my own attorney when I saw how weak the grievance was, how the [12:04] mayor had hidden it from me, and how m how mayor Irwin had conducted himself [12:09] towards me. One example of this was at the April budget workshop. I suggested [12:15] cutting expenses, and Alderman Meyers threw his pencil and name plate off the [12:19] table, yelled at me, and I quote, "I will pay the damn money out of my own [12:24] pocket." The mayor didn't address Alderman Myers's behavior. Instead, he [12:28] yelled at me. This grievance was a witch hunt. It was [12:33] never about ethics or conduct. It was about control, retaliation, and [12:38] silencing someone who dared to speak up. Chief Chief Chris admitted he fired [12:44] filed a grievance because he was angry with my husband, Monty Roland, the [12:48] former police chief. The the grievance contains statements about me being my [12:52] husband that are false and damaging to our reputation. [12:56] Rather than addressing a legitimate town or workplace issue, the mayor and [13:01] attorney decide to turn a personal dispute into an official town matter. [13:06] Chief Ratcliff's supplemental grief grievance doesn't deserve mentioning. [13:10] The facts are wrong. It was filed 6 months after the incident. This was [13:14] retaliation. Everyone got to hear the audio of my [13:18] rant to Chief Ratcliffe about the way a member of his department acted towards [13:22] me because it was sent to everyone on the email list and not just the [13:26] alderman. I asked for the video of this email incident to be emailed out to all [13:30] the alderman. It wasn't done. My grievance against Mr. O'Daniel was [13:36] never investigated by Mayor Owen or Attorney Mains. I do not know if either [13:41] of them even reviewed the video of his verbal attack against me. But I know [13:45] they never requested my audio recording of the incident [13:51] which was necessary to to be fully investigate what occurred. My grievance [13:56] was never placed on the board agenda, brought before the board, published in [14:00] the newspaper or posted on Facebook. It also was not handled in accordance with [14:05] town ordinance 4-210. In contrast, the grievance filed against [14:11] me was treated as an official town matter distributed to town officials, [14:16] placed on the agenda, and brought before the board. The facts clearly demonstrate [14:20] that these two grievances were handled unequally by Mayor Irwin and Attorney [14:24] Mains. And while all this was happening, Attorney Mains built the town for [14:30] services he provided in connection with his grievance, a grievance he advised [14:34] on, shaped, and profited from. He made money off a frivolous, baseless [14:40] complaint that never should have existed. Let me be clear. [14:45] Mr. Mains was working as the mayor's attorney, not the towns. His action [14:49] served the mayor's personal interest, his vendetta against me, not the best [14:54] interest of the town of Decar. Instead of dismissing this nonsense, mayor, you [14:59] attorney mains twisted into something it never was. You tried to make it sound [15:03] official, legitimate, and disciplinary. The mayor invited an impass adviser to [15:08] the workshop. Alderman Ward and attorney mains addressed his agreements to him. [15:13] Let me remind you the mayor was already in possession of the withdrawal letter [15:17] and it had been voted on passed by the board to not discuss without my attorney [15:21] present. This letter should have ended this [15:26] matter immediately. Instead, it was buried for 31 days. 31 days of silence, [15:32] 31 days of public damage, 31 days in which the mayor had the power to correct [15:37] the record and he chose not to. This is not transparency. This is not due [15:42] process. This is not leadership. This is secrecy. [15:46] May [clears throat] Mayor John Wayne Irwin and Trooper John [15:51] Wayne Irwin have each taken an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of [15:55] Tennessee to faithfully perform the duties of their respective public [15:59] offices to carry out those duties with integrity and truthfulness. [16:04] And mayor, those obligations include following state law, [16:08] the town charter, and the town ordinances based on the actions and [16:13] omissions outlined here. I believe these are serious questions about whether the [16:16] oaths and obligations have been honored in this matter. In closing, this isn't [16:21] about me. It's about the integrity of the office of the mayor. It's about [16:24] whether our leaders can be trusted to act with honesty and fairness. [16:29] Mayor Irwin, you failed that test. Alderman Myers and Alman Ward, you [16:34] enabled it. Attorney mains profited from it. And those on the board who stood [16:39] silently or spread rumors, you were complicit. [16:42] Let me make one thing clear. I will not be silenced. I will not be intimidated [16:47] and I will not stop until accountability is served. I am asking that my [16:52] attorney's letter and his attachments and Chief Chris withdraw the letter be [16:57] attached as part of the minutes of this meeting. Thank you. [17:03] » All right, moving on. Ordinance 284 284 first reading. [17:10] It is for reszoning partial 056.00 [17:15] group A mix county tax map 042L from R1 to low density I'm sorry R1 low [17:24] density to R2 high density residential. >> Make a motion. [17:29] » I'll second. [17:34] [clears throat] >> Where is it at? [17:37] » That is uh Moose. Okay. [17:43] Alderman Meyers. >> Hi. [17:44] » Alderman Oddinger. >> Yes. [17:46] » Alderman Peyton. >> Hi. [17:47] » Alderman Roland. >> Hi. [17:50] [clears throat] >> All right. Uh the sewer rehab change [17:55] order is what we added to the agenda. I will let the engineer speak to this. [18:01] Uh he can explain the three different options on how it will work. [18:08] So with the ARPA money, uh there's two pots of the money. [18:14] There's the ARPA the money from the state and you're also just been agreeing [18:19] on that contract and then there's a contract with the with the Hurst [18:23] excavator which is contracted for the rehab budget. [18:27] In my attempt to try to [clears throat] keep you all under budget, um I'll I'll [18:33] explain those two. There is a difference in what we're under. The ARPA contract, [18:37] we have about $90,000 left to spend. I've got about a month to spend that. [18:43] Uh, under the Hurst excavating contract, I got about $400,000. [18:48] So, there was an overage discrepancy. I'm going to be completely honest. U, [18:54] every time I talk to someone with the state, I get a different number. So, [18:58] I've spent literally the last month getting every number that I can from [19:02] every contract that we've gotten, and I'm confident within $90,000. [19:08] Um, that would mean no no extra money comes out of y'all's pocket that was not [19:13] intended other than a 10% match. Um, so with that being said, I'm proceeding as [19:20] if we've got $90,000 left to spend in this contract. um has been brought to my [19:25] attention. Uh when I presented this, Mayor Irwin mentioned Hunterbin Road um [19:31] had some problems and then Jeff and I went down there and took a look at [19:34] Hunter Ben Road and I noticed the multiple layers of patch that have been [19:38] put on it. I think in the short time that uh Jeff has been here, they've [19:43] patched it a couple of times. Um, we're starting to notice um the first time I [19:48] went up through there, you can notice some some decent divots, three 4 in [19:55] uh settlement uh in in the pavement. And then the other day, we went up to look [19:59] at two of the worst spots to try to keep this in that $90,000 range and noticed u [20:05] an actual hole. I do not use the word simple because I [20:10] know exactly what that means. But it is a place where water can actually get [20:14] into a trench and once water is in a trench it can move whatever it wants to [20:19] um as we've seen flooding and everything else. Water has got a a mind of its own [20:24] and it's very powerful. Um, so with that being said, as as Jeff and I drove up [20:30] the road and looked at this, um, it is apparent to me that it is probably [20:36] settlement within the the trench. Uh, seemed like that may have been going on [20:40] for a while. There's a creek right next to it. Uh, water moving in and out. [20:45] In lie of putting patch over this again and watching it settle out in six [20:50] months, uh the best effort that I can put forth is to completely dig that [20:55] trench up and back fill that with what we call foldable fill, which is a a [21:00] loose concrete set up over time and is still excavated. Um that is not a not a [21:07] cheap fix. Um, so that's what I've given uh attached to this and again I am sorry [21:14] for the late notice on this. I've been working getting the numbers straight so [21:18] that we can put these in. Um, option one is keeping us in that [21:23] 80,000 or $90,000 range. And that is literally repairing and back filling the [21:30] two worst spots up there and patching the hole. Um, y'all saw what that did on [21:35] Main Street. Not always the smoothest it turns out, but we can we can watch that [21:41] process and and try to get that smoother as smooth as possible. So that fixes two [21:48] of the rough leaves, but it fixes about 45 linear feet of of the problem. And as [21:55] we've measured out, there was about 135 linear feet. Uh so option two is fixing [22:02] all 135 linear feet of trench and back filling that with just patch or not [22:09] patch but just just paving the trench that he opened up. Um and that is the [22:15] $189,000. Um and then option three is going back [22:22] in doing option two and then coming through and paving the full width of the [22:26] road. um which I believe is going to last for quite a while uh once we get [22:31] this uh ditch situated and keep things from settling. [22:36] Um I can assure you if you look through the video that is not the sewer. Um it [22:41] is a trench issue. Uh there's no INI in that system. That system that was [22:47] previously rehab. The liners look really good. Um, so I believe that this will be [22:54] the best fix for the project is to get this trench back filled. Whether you all [22:59] want to back fill the whole thing or if we just want to fix the two major parts, [23:05] um, that's completely up to you. Um, I have been in contact with the contractor [23:11] today. Uh, he is contacting the the one thing [clears throat] that upholds [23:16] everything is timeline to get the paying crew back in. [23:20] U as y'all see with Main Street. It took a little while to get them in here. Um [23:26] so he's in contact with them uh this afternoon and tomorrow to see if we can [23:31] line up that that works within the timing. I've got about 30 days to get [23:35] things done by September 30th. Um so that this can be completed. U so that is [23:42] where we're at and I'm open to questions. [23:46] This is a road that we have have got a lot of complaints on and Jeff like I [23:50] said went up there and tried to patch it several times and it just keeps washing [23:54] out um keeping >> and sinking in as so it's just going to [23:58] keep doing over time. This would be the one time that we could actually spend [24:03] quer money on some paving because it's within this project. So [24:09] that would be one of the next road that we would have to pave in the future [24:11] after this is fixed. Anyways, [24:20] » so option two, you're going to pave the lot on Main Street. Is that how it be? [24:25] » Option two is like Main Street was before we paved it fully. Option three [24:30] provides >> Main Street today. Yes. [24:37] » And these are estimates we did. I mean, obviously I don't know exactly how deep [24:41] things are. So there are things that could change. I I believe that I've [24:45] overestimated things. Obviously you start digging and trench falls in [24:51] keeping more. It could get bigger. I think it's probably stable enough. I [24:56] think these are overestimates by a little bit. I always try to do that. I [25:01] don't like to be the surprise. [25:10] And uh three is from the city limit line all the way back down five point. [25:13] Correct. >> Three is um nearly to the city limit. [25:17] Well, >> yeah. To the to basically to the last [25:20] manhole um up there and then it'll start uh you're probably about 300 ft up from [25:28] the intersection or uh yeah, you're probably about 300 ft up from the [25:33] intersection. Um so basically paving what what there'll [25:49] make a motion to do option three for the pool from sewer and water [25:55] other than the 90,000. [26:02] I'll put a second. [26:12] » Alderman Meyers. >> Hi. [26:14] » Alderman Oddinger. >> No. [26:18] » Alderman Peyton. >> Hi. [26:19] » Alderman Roland. [26:23] » Hi. [26:28] I'll proceed with the change orders and contractors in line again in lie of [26:33] contractor coming back and saying it's going to be October before they can pave [26:37] it. You know, we'll make adjustments from there. [26:42] » Thank you. >> All right. Uh [26:48] do we need workshop that we have? [26:56] We need that workshop one second to talk about that improvement plan to [27:04] talk about. >> Excuse that on the agenda for workshop. [27:07] » Okay. [27:12] » I'd like to second just in the essence of transparency. [27:18] I want you guys to know that Laura and I have been working pretty diligently on [27:24] the financials. Um, we we're way ahead of where we've been and [27:31] we've also discovered a few things that we can [27:36] do internally that won't show up on our audits next year. So, I think we're [27:41] going to be able to attack um some of the items that we've been [27:46] working on for the last three or four years. You know, we're [27:50] right now at this point correcting with some of them. There's still some others [27:55] that we've got to work on procedure. We've got to work on segregation of duty [28:00] so that it won't come back up again. But, you know, I can tell you that, you [28:05] know, the cash has been accounted for. So you guys looked at the books last [28:10] month. You know, I swallowed really hard when I thought we wrote about $1.7 [28:15] million in checks out, but you can report it back to you and I'm sure Laura [28:21] will get the details of what we have. As Chris mentioned, we're getting [28:27] everything set up for the ARPA funding to fill that back in. So, you know, I [28:33] think we're we're well on our way to have a pretty strong year. It looks like [28:38] preliminary that um water and sewer will still remain pretty healthy through this [28:45] year's August coming up. Um, the general fund is still is tied, but I think once [28:53] everything's said and done, I'm a little concerned with the depreciation of how [28:58] we're going to handle the extra depreciation coming in water and sewer, [29:03] but I think we've got enough margin to cover that. So, cash is balanced. um [29:13] everything you know we're working is due up the payables receivables matches the [29:18] general ledger you know we're going through all that the details of it now [29:23] so I feel like we should be in good shape to submit at the first request [29:28] from the auditors so you know my goal is I can't tell you when the auditors will [29:35] proceed with the audit but I can tell you that we will have the city will have [29:41] ourselves turned in um well before we have in the past this year. [29:50] » That's all I got for that. That's what we've been working. [29:55] » That's good. Basically, I'd just like for the board to know what's going on, [30:00] » you know, but have some way to say here we are. This is what we've done. I mean, [30:06] keep us locked in the dark, >> right? you know, [30:10] that's what I want. So, and I may not understand it all, but I'll know that, [30:16] you know, we're not in the dark until the hobby comes back, [30:20] » right? >> You know, [30:23] » and we should get very good preliminary numbers and I don't think you'll see [30:28] much sway in the audit. I mean there'll be little things come up that you know [30:35] but I don't think what they call materiality something that would affect [30:40] their financials I don't think you're going to see wonderful we'll go through [30:44] it line by line till we till we get there and then I'm thinking that it'll [30:50] be today's the 11th probably we'll be submitting wildfire sometime [30:58] September another 20 days or so. [31:02] » Yes, we should have we will have all the books closed by the end of August and [31:06] have all the reconciliations and and cash submitted. Um [31:12] » and they've already >> September and they they've been here [31:14] doing doing testing and they've started and and we're already scheduled for for [31:19] early November for them to be back. But I will tell you, I've been in this [31:23] business for 30 years that when we reached out and hired this firm, [31:30] we have a much higher level of firm than we've had in the past [31:36] where the previous firm the last 20 years [31:41] that we've had, we'd make adjustments and all and let it go. I'm telling you, [31:45] the dude stood in here the other day, if he writes, if his pencil touches the [31:51] paper on anything to do with the county, it will be in notes. So, that's why I [31:56] want to work really hard to not have them have to make any adjustment, [32:00] anything have nobody wants to have um issues like that. [32:08] We're going to work very [32:13] » speaking of revenue the [32:17] check with warrant from MTA has the sales tax we don't have to do anything [32:21] if it gets passed which will be on the November ballot and also the uh retail [32:27] package stores they have enough signatures so it will be that question [32:31] will be on the ballot also in November >> I have a question that so [32:36] do we have a role in that if it does pass countywide [32:41] as far as I know there's already buildings being built in the city. [32:45] What do we have a role in that? >> We we for the retail package for jail [32:49] we'll have to decide how many where >> that's all this [33:01] was there discussion on data centers also with [33:08] That won't be in the planning commission. It'll be in the next [33:10] planning. >> It's [33:19] a place way out in the middle of nowhere. [33:28] » [laughter] [33:33] » about what you guys [33:37] » we got some things a couple different things that I'm working with the [33:40] developers and them on nothing set in stone yet but we're making some headway [33:45] so hopefully I'm hoping by the next meeting that we'll have something that [33:48] we can report and we'll get ahead of the cart that's become [33:53] I hope we have something. Sure. >> Can we have a workshop before the next [33:57] meeting so we're not waiting a month and a month and a month and a month and a [34:00] month? >> Maybe like a workshop in a week or two [34:03] when you have your information. >> Uh yeah, I mean we we can bring it up to [34:09] hopefully have some at the next workshop which will be before the next meeting. [34:17] Is it 25th in issue for anybody? [34:23] Make it a little later on. 6 or 7. [34:30] » 6:30. 6:30. >> 6:30 on the 230. [34:36] » Is it [34:40] I still don't know. like when you is there going to be information given out [34:46] to think about before the meeting like what P dot is proposed and what [34:52] is that in violation of pension law of sharing information so I want I don't [34:58] want to show up here and say are you going to say like here's option one two [35:03] and three is that what you're thinking >> yeah I'm just going to bring the [35:06] information I don't have like I don't have things set in stone I've had two or [35:09] three people call me trying trying to work on some things. Uh but there's [35:12] nothing to be set in stone yet. Um I know Danny Dfield was working on a few [35:17] things and then the the actual develop. [35:24] » Yeah, I'm as soon as I get it, I'm going to push it out so we can have everybody [35:28] » like a preliminary what can be thinking about it and see which way they want to [35:31] go with it. [35:36] All right. Anything else? [35:41] So 25th 6:30 [35:45] workshop and then the next meeting will be September 8th at 7:00. [35:50] Make a motion. business. [35:55] » We need [36:20] our army. Yeah. [36:39] You have no idea. [36:56] » They did not