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[0:11] I have the sign-up sheet for the Opposed Amendment to the zoning law pertaining signs. No one has signed up to address the board. Is there someone here who would like to address the board regarding signs? People may speak by it.
[0:31] We'll hold the public hearing on behalf of signs open for a short period of time.
[0:39] All right. I'm going to motion to be closed. The public hearing on signs. There are seconds. Thank you.
[0:44] Thank you. Any discussion?
[0:46] Once again, I believe we exhausted the room so far as signs.
[0:50] Was there anyone who attended this evening,
[0:52] hoping to adjust the town board about signs?
[0:55] Okay.
[0:56] All of the favorite poses.
[0:58] Say aye.
[0:59] Any pose?
[1:01] Motion carries.
[1:04] All right.
[1:04] In a few minutes,
[1:05] we're scheduled to start the public hearing on the proposed change for the villas.
[1:10] That will happen at six o'clock.
[1:13] There's a sign of she the first game was coming to the room if you'd like to address the board. Please sign up. Thank you.
[1:21] Yes. Okay. Thank you.
[1:23] I think we're close to that.
[1:25] That's the feeling that we went somewhere in the project team that the residents is. Thank you.
[1:30] It's not.
[1:31] You're not.
[1:34] Sorry.
[1:35] You're having a conversation. I'll stop out of here.
[1:44] Thank you for this opportunity at the meeting on September 6th.
[1:49] Several items came up that we wanted to address first as a supervisor for still a mission
[1:54] that was made apparent to the town board who was in direct with the planning board that
[2:01] the last short habits for the last residents were come for disabled persons of the property
[2:07] adjacent to the planned development, and that's an item that needs to be addressed as a part of the planning board's state environment and quality work.
[2:17] So we met with the organization that runs the Lashert House background services of the Hudson Valley.
[2:25] They were concerned about the proximity of their property and porch to see our project and also be affected by any.
[2:36] Instruction, noise, dust, and the light.
[2:40] So we show them an updated tree survey,
[2:43] property and art properties,
[2:44] to show them where small damper trees
[2:46] that were on the original survey are located,
[2:48] blocking that board to show them a planting design,
[2:52] show additional plentings that are going out there
[2:54] to filter the news from there.
[2:57] And we also share with them information
[2:59] about weens and measures to be taken during construction,
[3:04] to minimize the dust, the noise that would happen
[3:06] that they could possibly affect their residents.
[3:10] We had a good meeting with them,
[3:12] and we had an exchange with Austin Grine,
[3:15] who was a chief operating officer of that organization,
[3:19] and he said that he appreciated our transparency,
[3:22] our willingness to come forward and to share
[3:25] what we intended to do to try and, you know,
[3:28] minimize any impact on the lash and hold of his residents,
[3:32] and he said that he would, you know,
[3:33] follow the planning board and decisions
[3:35] about how this could impact the same environment point.
[3:40] The second item to team up for that same field is that someone had
[3:46] noted that the form that you fill out called the environmental assessment form
[3:50] had indicated that we would be having the elastic on the side to part of the
[3:55] segment.
[3:56] We made the statement. It's invariably checked.
[3:58] There's no plan to have any glass in there.
[4:01] We submitted all of this information to the planning board.
[4:05] They asked us to do this and to follow up.
[4:09] And they found that their original finding of there being no significant impact would stand up.
[4:16] They'd not find anything there and change there earlier.
[4:18] So I just wanted to give you that update from the planning board side.
[4:23] In addition, there were some comments made in September 6th.
[4:27] We just wanted to talk to some things that we think that were mentioned, that we're not on the mark, they were incorrect, otherwise we're just representing our intentions.
[4:37] The first three of those is around the issue of affordability.
[4:42] Our team was accused of misrepresenting this fraud somehow these residential units are to be developed were not going to be affordable.
[4:51] And what I would say to that is that we are very specifically using state and federal
[4:59] guidelines and am fine for state funds, the Department of Funds and for the renewal
[5:05] that require this to be affordable house.
[5:09] It sets income limits on the residents, and it sets limits on the rents, but you can
[5:14] allow the charge of those residents, and that's what makes this affordable house.
[5:19] That's the law.
[5:20] We intended to follow the law with this project.
[5:24] Second issue is one about taxes.
[5:26] We're specifically about real estate taxes.
[5:29] Again, in New York State through the Department of
[5:33] Cones and Community Renewal, there's not some
[5:36] exemption that these products are automatically exempt
[5:40] from real estate taxes.
[5:41] On the contrary, it's a requirement that you engage with
[5:45] the town to work out essentially a tax client.
[5:48] Right now, the Dominican Sisters on the property do not pay real estate taxes.
[5:54] We intend to pay real estate taxes.
[5:56] We've made a proposal to the town on this same issue, and again, following the state's
[6:01] requirements on this, we'll come to the town and negotiate agreement to pay real estate
[6:07] taxes, which will be an increase in the revenues to the town.
[6:12] The, uh, the final reason I want to mention concerns, um, access, particularly for emergency
[6:18] vehicles.
[6:19] There's some questions there about that.
[6:21] And what I would say is that the entrance to the property, private property, would be
[6:26] wide and just to make sure that it was fully accessible to emergency vehicles, the width of
[6:31] the internal roadways, 22 feet into the New York State Fire Code, there's in terms of circling
[6:37] to go around all of the buildings and these are very much designed to make sure that these vehicles
[6:43] have proper access in case there is some climate emergency. Finally, this was now brought up
[6:49] at the September 6 meeting, but it's come to our attention since then. We had communications
[6:57] indirectly a year ago with the local solidities of storage preservation commission. They reached out
[7:04] to us again. They have some documentation that shows that there may be some remains, some
[7:11] partial remains of an older stone building, which is in the foundation or in the basement
[7:17] of the existing building. And they wanted to come in and sort of test for probe to take a look
[7:23] around. And we're willing to work with them. We're very much focused on what we're trying to do
[7:29] here with the town boards and what I would say to them is we're a very long way if we make
[7:35] through with all these approvals from getting to the point of having you know a demolition
[7:40] flank or say. I just wanted to say to the record that we're happy to engage with them and to work
[7:46] with them to try to figure out you know what there might be that they consider to be valuable there
[7:52] and perhaps together and sometimes to preserve that in some way.
[7:57] So thank you. I want to recently, if I could, just give this to Ryan Green for a moment.
[8:02] Okay. Thank you.
[8:10] Thank you.
[8:10] Thank you, Matt, and we invite everyone to spend the day.
[8:14] My comments this evening referred to comments that were made.
[8:21] I think it's the less public hearing than in prior meetings that in fact,
[8:27] the intention of the genetic assistance of Spark here was to build this property and not
[8:35] make it available for the residents of the sororities community, but instead use the
[8:43] apartments for their old members, that in fact our intention was to provide housing for our
[8:50] home sisters. I want to address that directly. The Dominican Sisters of Spark will have every
[8:58] intention of moving forward with this project. Should we receive the approvals that are necessary
[9:05] in order to build a project of affordable senior housing that will serve the needs of the
[9:14] and surrounding communities.
[9:18] The sisters have housing.
[9:23] They have assisted living, independent living,
[9:27] a mother house, a place where our frail,
[9:30] elderly reside and are cared for,
[9:33] and have no need.
[9:37] And I have to say desire at this point to move to
[9:41] As much as we have loved our time here and have used this property for our own benefit for purposes of great retreat recreation.
[9:53] We are not intended that this will be a housing project for the diminishing systems.
[9:58] Our attention is in the certain needs of the community of service following all of the state regulations in terms of eligibility.
[10:14] of the project being done, but to accept applications.
[10:18] And so that is the clarification that I intend to make.
[10:23] Thank you.
[10:24] Thank you.
[10:32] We begin with lists of speakers who have signed up to speak.
[10:41] We're going to remind everyone we're going to allocate two minutes for a speaker and we're
[10:47] going to set the timer when you hear the timer above the next two years time.
[10:52] Good evening.
[10:54] Since my home is on the property line at the entrance to the project, we've done some research.
[11:00] We want to know exactly what or who will be living next with us 200 feet from our bedroom windows.
[11:07] When we bought on this quiet residential lane, we knew we'd have neighbors, a family of two, four, or even six, a few cars in the driveway.
[11:17] However, in just a year's time, our new immediate neighbor will be four free-story buildings with 122 apartments, balconies and dozens of windows all facing our single family home.
[11:30] over 100 streetlights. At this time, there are zero streetlights in
[11:35] building length. Talking a lot with over 100 vehicles, not
[11:40] dimensions, a couple hundred residents driving up and down
[11:45] building lanes in front of our home. How is this project allowable
[11:49] in this single family residential lane? The current zoning is
[11:53] in place for a reason and it shouldn't be changed. Additionally,
[11:57] When I looked up other apartments run by the Dominican sisters, I found that their
[12:01] residents, the Thorke Village in Spark Hill, while it started out as a
[12:08] affordable senior housing, it is now federally subsidized club housing. Also known as
[12:14] Section 8 housing. If this project moves forward, I'd like to know how we can
[12:19] prevent this type of change down the road for welding. Also, I'm here to
[12:25] express our resentment and disbelief around the process in the last 15 months.
[12:31] At the only neighborhood meeting over a year ago, the Dominican sisters outlined their
[12:35] project.
[12:36] They asked for feedback.
[12:38] Our feedback was completely dismissed, it was ignored.
[12:41] We expressed concerns about doubling the vehicle traffic where we walk our elderly, our pets
[12:46] and where our children play.
[12:48] We asked about the one-way entry, the extreme close proximity of the three-story structure
[12:54] to the street lighting all right up against our single family homes.
[12:58] When we asked that they please reduce the size to two stories or to some fewer units,
[13:04] we were told that it, quote, wouldn't be profitable on a smaller scale, not profitable.
[13:13] This was the extent that the Dominican sisters included their neighbors, all 50 homes and families
[13:18] who have supported them for the last 41 years.
[13:22] When we, when do the residents of Swalding Lane get their meeting, when do we get accommodations
[13:29] for the infosition on our front yards, at our front doors, and on our wallets?
[13:34] While they didn't even know that the Lancer House group come existed, or even how to get
[13:38] to it, they might also not know much about the rest of Swalding Lane neighbors.
[13:44] These neighbors are upset and concerned because they work hard, many of the work's multiple
[13:49] jobs.
[13:50] Some have multiple generations living under warm room, just to pay their mortgage and their taxes.
[13:57] All your neighbors want, after a long day or is a safe place to rest and raise their families.
[14:04] This is why your Hudson River property was owned low-density, high- low-up, to limit its development.
[14:13] Thank you.
[14:14] Thank you.
[14:14] I'm
[14:21] sorry.
[14:21] My
[14:33] name is Darlene Moore.
[14:36] I'm sorry.
[14:36] I'm a big sister.
[14:38] Darlene, we might be fooling the face of it.
[14:41] Have it towards your mouth and you'll get a better response.
[14:50] Just hold it.
[14:52] Okay.
[14:54] My name is Darlene Moore.
[14:55] I live at 37.
[14:56] I'm sorry.
[14:57] I'm sorry.
[14:59] I'm sorry.
[15:00] Thank you to the board for the opportunity to voice my concern that I admit. I'm concerned about all the added traffic to our school dead end road. We have no outlet on the consulting line. Now, I w has already increased with all the new buildings and residents in our area. I'm also wondering how this is going to affect our emergency services or police and the environment department, what's the impact on them, which is usually it's also on us. I'd like to know how much
[15:29] Phil is going into this project and where it's being where it's coming from.
[15:35] I thought that what lands were protected and where's the runoff coming up into the river.
[15:41] This is an ambitious plan and who's going to be responsible for this job site.
[15:46] We're talking about our waters and sewers and everything and water is an actual resource and they can't last forever.
[15:54] And if we keep building insolvenes like this, we're going to be out of it.
[16:00] And there's also a cemetery, which in their own folk states that not only is it a family
[16:06] cemetery, but it's also a burial grounds area for slaves that are unmarked and in that
[16:12] area, but not in that, and there's a cemetery.
[16:16] There's also the laughter house where the sisters and the developers have made a deal with
[16:20] management.
[16:21] the employees and residents who have been our friends are no longer allowed to speak to us.
[16:28] Why?
[16:30] The residents themselves are not the favor of this project.
[16:35] The management might be.
[16:36] We as neighbors have tried talking to the developer, and there's absolutely no compromise there.
[16:44] That is a two-plus or housing development with a 122 humans fit into a neighborhood of mostly one-story homes with only one way out.
[16:56] We are not again seen in our portable housing, but this is too large.
[17:01] And I'd like you to please take long and hard before passing us on for a zoning change.
[17:07] Thank you for the opportunity for slightly service.
[17:10] Thank you.
[17:15] Thank you.
[17:16] Mike Yano,
[17:27] you so you know, I have money copied to the certain piece that appears out, and
[17:33] I'll give one to Matt all self that said, so I just want to tell you something to begin
[17:37] now.
[17:38] Yeah.
[17:39] The low my name is Mike Yano, I was out of my 55th birthday.
[17:42] I've been following this project over the years since I've worked in planning board.
[17:47] Everybody that is smoking at the first meeting, unfortunately my opinion differs from many
[17:52] up, 17 people spoke for the project, 17 people spoke against the project, 21 people spoke
[17:59] for it. Of those 21 people, nine of them were sisters. The sisters are not residents
[18:05] in the community, but they should be respected for their commons. All the people that spoke
[18:10] against the project were residents, the small wing, our taxpayers and local residents
[18:15] in the living community. The small wing-winning residents come, almost come to every meeting
[18:20] and pertaining to this project.
[18:22] At the beginning of the project,
[18:24] the applicant stated that he met with local residents
[18:26] and said they were receptive and favorable to the project.
[18:30] If anyone goes down slowly and they will find out,
[18:33] 90% of the residents have signs against the project.
[18:36] I am confused to the designation of the project.
[18:39] Is it senior housing?
[18:41] Is it affordable senior housing?
[18:43] Or is it low income senior housing
[18:45] like many people believe?
[18:47] Will this project be put
[18:50] of solvities and all security residents at first,
[18:53] what will be a lottery
[18:54] for the entire state surrounding areas?
[18:57] My question is for the project.
[18:59] The traffic study done by the town engineer Phil Grille
[19:02] dated November 10th, 2022 did not include
[19:06] the following projects approved after the study.
[19:09] I asked for a build out of Terry Quirtle's number of drafts,
[19:12] misleading information about propants.
[19:15] They said one for unit building,
[19:16] one in fact it is four unit, four four units consisting of three apartments, two and three
[19:24] bedrooms.
[19:25] Jeffrey Court, ten, almost two and three bedrooms.
[19:28] Mozilla, 18 units, two and three bedrooms.
[19:31] The Veterans Reintegration Center, twin maples.
[19:34] Village is saw in this north street, 87 units building in the village by the bridge, the red
[19:40] bridge.
[19:40] The new pizza store at the end is flowing way known as Tessels, building complex at Dragon
[19:46] and then at no time does this traffic study occur when hits,
[19:49] the garlic festival saw all the baseball tournaments
[19:52] and the stallion games are on.
[19:54] The outdoor civilian at Ryan's house
[19:57] built for activities at the Ryan's house is something
[20:00] that when the applicants submitted their traffic study,
[20:02] they stated they included school traffic,
[20:05] but they did their study in August
[20:07] when none of the schools were in session.
[20:09] Therefore, they did not take into account
[20:11] the 34 kids that lived in the neighborhood.
[20:13] My elder concerns.
[20:14] I was able to have 3,000, 3,044 calls in 2022, a video of the two members of this organization
[20:23] this year stated they are on a purchase or passing last year's calls.
[20:28] And if this...
[20:30] You're up up.
[20:32] Well, that's your time.
[20:34] You quickly wrap up.
[20:36] Okay.
[20:37] That's your time.
[20:39] I have another half a page.
[20:41] All right.
[20:42] All right. Okay. We'll see if we come back to school to speak at the end. Okay.
[20:48] All right.
[20:55] Bremen.
[20:57] Ragas.
[21:08] My name is Ray the Gregson.
[21:09] We have a behalf of certain residents who are opposed to that.
[21:13] It's going to point out that the.
[21:15] The fact that this application was submitted in such a.
[21:21] Half.
[21:21] a face manner indicates the truth behind this applicant.
[21:27] It should be a withdrawn and resuminated,
[21:30] to be correctly submitted again.
[21:34] The fact that it's saying that they somehow missed,
[21:38] there was a lasher home in the community as two things.
[21:42] Either they completely didn't care
[21:44] or they were completely incompetent, I don't know which one.
[21:48] But that's one indication which shows
[21:50] was there's bad faith in the submission of the publication of the fact that they said
[21:57] that the
[22:01] garden,
[22:06] certain pumps station will need to be evaluated by the applicants
[22:11] engineer to verify that sufficient capacity exists to serve a project.
[22:16] The sufficient capacity design exists in improvements to the town pump station may be required.
[22:21] Now that seems to be an initial determination that shouldn't have been concluded before any application was submitted.
[22:29] There was no basis to submit this without that information.
[22:33] And that seems to be an intentional petition.
[22:41] In fact, they said that it's already indicated on page 10 of the initial application and says,
[22:47] Are there any facilities that are shown to be able to get disability again, they said no, that's the last one that was clearly described.
[22:57] The fact that they are unable to determine whether or not the water will be properly released into the Hudson without a breakage.
[23:08] Again, that's an English, they know what needs to be done, and then purposely avoiding that.
[23:13] And they're doing that to this one simple reason to try to get past the initial resistance that is an obvious element in this role.
[23:21] So I think this board does that the community is against it, and they're not doing it for any reason, and that there's no benefit to the community.
[23:30] The only one that's going to benefit this is going to be the developer and who are they, we don't only know because the fact that they're developing it currently the name developer, the name operator is unknown.
[23:44] And that will definitely be an important element for this for this board to decide who is going to be approved or not.
[23:53] There were a lot of emissions and emissions are not accidentally
[23:56] that are intentional. So I'm asking if you'd be aware and
[23:59] keep an eye out. Thank you.
[24:09] Charlie,
[24:09] I'd like
[24:17] to
[24:18] appreciate Matt, Lexler and sister, I really
[24:23] prepared for some of these things that are for our concerns.
[24:28] Now we can start. Read me again.
[24:34] Again, I would like to repeat that we are not against affordable senior housing or
[24:40] the need globally, or the two acronym numbers, we are not an envy.
[24:45] We think that the proposal is just too large.
[24:49] I have a current theme and what I would like to say is consideration and consider legitimate
[24:55] concerns.
[24:56] We know we're not negotiating, we're asking you with both both, or to ruling on the
[25:03] sonic chase and consider these concerns until a reduced proposal could be considered.
[25:09] After all, zoning laws are intended to use protection and not take them lightly.
[25:14] Concerned traffic, all the other forces and concerns that have been raised, fire, ambulance,
[25:20] wetlands, destruction, nature, wildlife, environmental concern, it's abandoned remotely.
[25:25] We addressed all brought to light the letter by the scenic Hudson and neighbors about box turtles, bats, et cetera.
[25:34] We're asking you to consider all the ramifications of demolition intrusion and construction of projects this day on this location.
[25:42] In regards to the governor's goal of 800,000 affordable housing units, her state committee
[25:49] on affordable housing's recommendation, the research model has strongly suggested that
[25:55] from projects that have entry and exit school neighborhoods, such as ours, should be between
[26:01] 8 to 60 units, larger than that, groups to create permanent problems and issues that display
[26:07] neighborhoods.
[26:08] consider a small developing, consider a small development, still will address their
[26:13] formation and helping and contribute to the community need. There would be less
[26:18] intrusion on the sacred ground that was mentioned and on the North Slayer
[26:22] Grays. There were mentioned, that were mentioned, all the food. As was mentioned
[26:27] before, that was in the book, there's also a picture in this book of disvolving
[26:32] house that was mentioned and actually complimented about the fact that the rules are 4 feet thick.
[26:43] I'm not sure about how you get it. I guess you could just pull those those over but it's been
[26:48] altered before to have that taken down and rebuilt on the property and there's been no response
[26:54] I do wonder,
[27:06] well, I'm proud to show you my age when I entertain the thought of the proposal like this, they can be comfortable, nice, and a success, but let's be accepted by all.
[27:19] That's about basically finally have a good one.
[27:22] Thank you.
[27:52] I don't understand the rush.
[27:57] Change the zone when you don't even have the fast.
[28:01] Really make it the termination.
[28:03] You don't know who the operator really is.
[28:08] This is enough across the organization as the development.
[28:12] But if you look them up online.
[28:14] You'll find that their executives and their staff make a huge amount of money, and that
[28:22] they are affiliated with four profit investors which operate the product base.
[28:28] So you don't really even have the facts, and if you push through this change of zoning
[28:34] and this development does not go through, you open the doors as a matter of right for someone
[28:42] else to develop it in a way in the future, very differently than what you would think.
[28:47] So let's start off by not rushing.
[28:49] Surface mode, okay, then face their studies on various times in the past with less rain.
[28:58] They have not addressed what they've seen that the potential for climate change and increase
[29:04] the rates.
[29:06] There will be a lot more water coming up, but a lot more disturbed.
[29:10] those lands a lot of them are limestone. Okay, limestone of the roads, it creates problems and we'll create bigger problems than you can see.
[29:20] No one has addressed that. There are misstatements in this mission. Okay, this is not, we are dealing with, ultimately, you're dealing with the operator who will then go in and make more money because it's being kept up to tax limits.
[29:39] Yes, they may make the contribution to new attacks, but is it going to be based upon the
[29:45] fill, the full build-out value of what is put up there?
[29:49] No, I don't think so.
[29:52] Okay, the operating entity that will run this thing is not the mimic gift, and it's not
[30:13] You don't understand the finance. You don't understand the, uh, true ramifications of this. Why are you rushing? I don't get it. If they change it, it's going to go somewhere else. It doesn't go through. Someone else will try.
[30:29] development. Incomements, they're not based upon, or in addition to not based upon
[30:35] overload, but based upon a wider area with much higher incomes. This is not
[30:42] going to be restricted to solving interest, it's a welcome address, and it's even
[30:45] else to counting this mess. That says you're not going to get what you think you're
[30:49] going to get it. So who's benefiting here? Sure, they'll follow state legs, but that's
[30:58] This is not really waiting for people.
[31:00] All right, thank you.
[31:08] I'll pass it off if I know what I'm passing it.
[31:13] Passing it.
[31:13] It's a fine yard block.
[31:20] Your weapon.
[31:23] How do you put that?
[31:24] It wasn't a road.
[31:24] So before I start your parish,
[31:26] you want to point out did you have a little problem
[31:30] with the framing of a rush here?
[31:33] This application came to the town, believe in early summer
[31:38] of 2022.
[31:39] You are about to close out 23 and there's, we're trying to follow pace.
[31:46] It's respectful to everyone involved, developer and residents alike and you know we got this
[31:54] application.
[31:55] That's what brought us here.
[31:56] We didn't have the application and almost would be here.
[31:59] So there's a, there's a, a timely way to go about this and feel we've tried to be consistent
[32:07] with that.
[32:07] a little bit easier as we go through the process.
[32:11] Okay.
[32:12] Thank you.
[32:12] Thank you.
[32:13] Thank you.
[32:16] Andrew, maybe a letter and I will forward it by email, although I gave a copy for copies
[32:20] that were made.
[32:22] Dear supervisor, members of the town board, the town has started the mission commission.
[32:27] We'd like to notify you that it still has listed on the town's register.
[32:31] Exists entirely within the building fabric of the bill of St. Joseph.
[32:37] with cooperation from the developer's agent, Matt Wentzler, and the Dominican Sisters Permission.
[32:43] We were able to conduct an initial visit to verify the stone house's existence.
[32:48] A little background.
[32:49] Oh, it's good.
[32:51] This kept coming up at our expert collaboration commission meetings.
[32:55] And it exists.
[32:56] It doesn't exist.
[32:57] It exists.
[32:57] And with their cooperation, we were able to go in and take the look.
[33:01] The site visit was conducted by myself, Kevin Durkin, and members of this team.
[33:08] Mr. Durkin is an accomplished authority on Stonehouse Restoration and salvage for relocation.
[33:14] His team successfully rescued the bridge house on both main side of the way here in Solvingaes,
[33:20] which was scheduled for demolition.
[33:23] He rebuilt in a great county in Maciel.
[33:26] But he does this throughout the United States of America, rescues old buildings that can
[33:32] no longer exist where they are.
[33:36] The bill of St. Joseph, and we gave him a approval by the right for him to take this stonehouse
[33:44] from the saw-raise and save it in ring-catting.
[33:47] The bill of St. Joseph contains the entire structure of the 1735s following stone house.
[33:55] All four walls from the basement, all the way up to the ravage.
[34:00] And rebuilt, which is, and this, this stone house is on Mars inventory.
[34:06] Sargeris is the largest collection of stone houses for any community in the state of New York.
[34:12] Let me take it serious.
[34:15] The stone house contains much of its original fabric, including pre-next 1735,
[34:21] A.K.A. Van Lugen, 17th century teachers, and early 18th century architectural features.
[34:29] The SHPC has been attempting to schedule a follow-up visit for Mr. Gergen to do further
[34:36] in full investigation about the viability of it, the condition, and just have the full picture
[34:42] of this house.
[34:44] And we're still, as Mr. Waxler just said, it's a little premature for them to go for
[34:50] them, and now understand that.
[34:53] But the SHPC strongly recommends that the welding stone house be saved in one way or another.
[35:02] And again, it can be saved where it is, it can be saved elsewhere on the property, or relocated
[35:09] hopefully elsewhere in the sockets.
[35:12] Thank you very much.
[35:13] Thank you.
[35:22] Grant Lammers.
[35:38] 5 minutes.
[35:39] We'll be six talking.
[35:42] Basically, concerned about transparency around this.
[35:47] Coming from one of the attacks there.
[35:50] I think everyone should be interested.
[35:55] I'm concerned
[36:01] about the transparency that we haven't seen as.
[36:07] is residents, taxpayers, about this budget.
[36:10] In other words, as was mentioned previously,
[36:13] the National Development Council is a nonprofit.
[36:18] Who will work for it?
[36:20] And will that, will the landing, who will operate everything?
[36:25] What are the ramifications of that?
[36:28] We don't know.
[36:29] I don't know that anyone can have the answer to that yet.
[36:32] And the other issue that I think about is the funding of the infrastructure
[36:38] upgrades that are going to have to take place for service project list size.
[36:45] Is that being to the taxpayers?
[36:48] Where does that be to the community of large?
[36:51] So I think everyone deserves to know before the decisions are made.
[36:56] So we have to publicly give you the input on that as well.
[37:01] And basically that's it, you know, we just don't know who these people are, they're going
[37:08] to be running the place and you're developing it.
[37:11] A little bit of that, they're a large corporate implement that has a political table.
[37:18] And that's really, that's really just some points that I wish you guys would consider.
[37:24] And thank you for your time.
[37:25] Thank you.
[37:45] My name is Mark Sinett, I live at the 34th folding lane.
[37:50] I grew up in the house and my parents had built there in 1954.
[37:54] I purchased it with my parents because it was such a peaceful neighborhood to raise my children.
[38:00] I am strongly opposed to the zoning change as this large project is totally out of character who are small neighborhood on this dead end street.
[38:09] Our houses are not large, and they're proposed three-story, 122-unit complex at numbers
[38:16] to 50 or so houses that make up the entire school of Indian neighborhood.
[38:22] I have seen many changes to the lane in the last 62 years.
[38:26] Many houses were built on vacant lots, but they all remained in character of the neighborhood.
[38:33] In contradiction to traffic studies, this will certainly increase the number of vehicles
[38:37] to passing by my house as I live with an 300 feet of the property line.
[38:43] The noise of instruction over a period of two plus years will profoundly have an impact
[38:48] on my daily life.
[38:50] I would like to ask each and every one of you, if you lived in my house or on the houses
[38:57] directly bordering these massive buildings, would you be happy and comfortable with this
[39:04] zoning change?
[39:05] I am asking you, please, not go through what does it only change, as it will directly and
[39:11] greatly impact the quality of life for all the residents on this quiet dead end street.
[39:18] Thank you for your time, consideration.
[39:27] Felindicin?
[39:40] Good evening.
[39:41] My name is Felindicin and I reside at Forty-Forestville, Maine, as well.
[39:45] And I have lived here for five years, and I have a close to Felindicin.
[39:49] If you can remember the last public hearing on September 6th, everyone spoke, both
[39:56] folding lane residents and the Dominican sisters spoke about peaceful and
[40:01] serene slowly laying in the property bus. If you change the zoning in this
[40:05] massive senior housing project is built, numbering more than twice the units of
[40:09] our homes, the character of this neighborhood will be changed forever. Most of us
[40:14] have lived on the lane a very long time and some of us grew up here. We already
[40:19] reside here. And it is for that very reason of the peace and serenity that we do. Is it fair
[40:24] to take this away from long-term residents and taxpayers? We're often asked in situations
[40:30] if the benefit outweighs the drawbacks. No one in sororities is guaranteed to benefit from this.
[40:36] Taxes will not reflect the full value of the development and a lottery system does not limit
[40:41] the residents to the locals. This project is solely for the benefit of the Dominican sisters
[40:47] leaders of Swarp Hill and the developers, not resolute and certainly not resolute
[40:52] lanes.
[40:53] As elected representatives of the people of the town of Swarp, you will learn a responsible
[40:59] for making the decision that our family and their lives.
[41:03] We put our trust in.
[41:06] I would hope that you and me at the side of this project is too large for our bi-added
[41:11] industry.
[41:12] I'm
[41:15] going to speed it up. Please, I've changed the voting.
[41:19] Unless the project is considerably downsized.
[41:29] Once it's changed, it will be changed forever,
[41:31] a position that shouldn't be taken lightly.
[41:34] My model has always been no redress.
[41:37] And I would not want hasty decisions way of my conscience.
[41:43] I want to say to all honesty, this is close.
[41:45] I want to sleep with nights or many of the residents is falling rain.
[41:48] I mean, thank you for this opportunity to stay.
[41:52] So,
[42:00] chairperson, my
[42:15] name is Trevor said.
[42:17] I've decided 44 is folding lane,
[42:18] and I grew up on the line.
[42:20] I am in opposition to the zoning check.
[42:23] Two of us living within 100 yards of the Dominican sisters' property
[42:27] worked from home as telecommuters.
[42:29] And some of us don't have access to an office.
[42:34] The two years of vigorous construction by this plant
[42:36] for the site's civil close five,
[42:38] natively impact our performance at work and potentially our point. I always felt
[42:44] this holding lane was the perfect place for a child to go up. As a child, I love
[42:50] that I could feel safe playing outside in the other neighborhood kids, writing
[42:56] lights up and down the lane and playing sports in our front doors. I love seeing
[43:03] all children on our street today, also a new spending time outside playing with others,
[43:09] the way that we did. I'm afraid that with this large increase in traffic,
[43:14] so our narrow dead-end street, that this may be taken away from them. I hope that you consider
[43:20] the impact that this will have on all residents of all ages on open waiting.
[43:38] Thank you for
[43:39] asked me to give his climate for me to speak for him.
[43:43] So himself, Darren, clearly Margaret,
[43:47] Luke, and myself, they've asked me to speak for them.
[43:49] They could take it for today.
[43:50] They're my neighbors.
[43:52] I see you're going to give you three minutes.
[43:54] OK, I sent the information that the textbook is written out
[43:58] to the secretary.
[43:59] She has to be know of it, that's what I was asked to do earlier.
[44:02] So you have written permission
[44:03] that they're giving me the proxy to speak, but you're
[44:07] I'm not going to give you 12 minutes.
[44:09] Give me extra minutes to represent other people.
[44:11] It cannot get here because of disabilities.
[44:13] That is only fair.
[44:15] That would be unfair.
[44:17] Just what?
[44:18] It's unfair.
[44:19] We're going to do three minutes.
[44:24] So disabled people who couldn't make it here are not allowed to have their voice.
[44:28] You want to be competitive.
[44:29] We can do no minutes.
[44:30] It's asking.
[44:30] I'm going to say I'm going to give you two minutes.
[44:33] Everybody's going to play with that.
[44:35] I'm going to do the honor.
[44:35] So I'm going to start a two-minute sound before I do that.
[44:38] If you turn on the microphone, where's your mount?
[44:41] In your ear.
[44:46] If you push it to your ear, right?
[44:49] I probably got to say it right now.
[44:51] Now we're doing it.
[44:52] I don't think you guys are going to hear.
[44:54] It doesn't matter.
[44:55] It does say it.
[44:56] You're on your show.
[44:57] Sure.
[44:58] Okay.
[44:58] Thank you.
[45:00] Okay, so as part of my three minutes, I still ask the question that if I were to stay in the
[45:06] person at home, why could I provide a boxy for someone to speak for me, apparently you're
[45:10] not allowed to. As a new Glasgow Socrates. That is very inappropriate, it's combative. I'm
[45:20] not going to correct you about that again. We take comments in writing. If there's someone
[45:25] with a disability, my phone is always available. I have met with people. There has been nobody
[45:30] design opportunity to present their objection or concern to this project or any other and
[45:35] that will not change. These individuals are welcome to express themselves to us directly
[45:40] by text, email, or calling on the phone. But this evening for the privilege of the folks
[45:45] in the room, we're all going to share three minutes and that is going to be going to happen.
[45:49] So you're not allowing proxies. I'm just trying to confront that. I think it was pretty clear.
[45:53] you're at least about your time. You stopped the treatment. So as a voluntary firefighter for
[46:00] glassic acidities and as a new residence the only two years come this quiet, serene lane.
[46:10] I moved here to escape the noise and fumes as an 11 survivor with PTSD and head injuries
[46:18] and Lyme disease that make me nauseous with any fumes and noise.
[46:24] So, I have been disabled for the past, and I'm lucky to feature it down.
[46:27] So, I've represented a lot of people with disabilities.
[46:31] So, I can think I can speak for that.
[46:33] Great interest in spinal cord.
[46:35] The fire in EMS regularly spawned to the last warehouse,
[46:38] as they did in this last Thanksgiving.
[46:40] Even on this quiet day, two of three of the fire trucks could not get down
[46:44] to a manner of this side lane. One truck went down and the other stayed at the entrance directly outside of the villas that we're speaking about.
[46:56] This will be exactly like we'll be dealing with the fire at the villas, a small group of local firefighters swiving there quickly with an outer ladder truck to reach a third story.
[47:06] Can you imagine a serious fire in the first story and trying to evacuate
[47:10] an elderly population, a 15-minute delay in getting ladders to the scene?
[47:15] This means a loss of lives.
[47:18] That could be numerous.
[47:21] With a guarantee, there's going to be a massive increase of senior residents walking
[47:26] driving along with public trucks, parking, GPS service, vans, delivery vans from
[47:33] the masterhouse has a van's going. Now we're going to have 150 plus rents walking along
[47:39] spawning lane. Why? Because falling waters is too dangerous to walk on on those trebles.
[47:45] So they'll be walking just as the sisters did. I believe spawning lane because it's safer
[47:50] than they are elderly. So you have elderly drivers, you have elderly walkers, you have already the children,
[47:56] The dogs, you know, the local people every single day walking quietly on this lane.
[48:03] No sidewalks.
[48:04] If you increase the width of this road, statistically, you're going to increase more desk.
[48:09] People drive faster once in a while.
[48:11] So there's no widening it and making it better.
[48:13] There's no sidewalks either.
[48:15] So you have a recipe for disaster.
[48:17] That's just a lot of them.
[48:23] This also does not include the opening of the right-of-way that runs right through this complicated
[48:28] entrance.
[48:29] Jeff and Nansiano and his staff have seen a host and I have spoken several times about
[48:33] bringing this trail to fruition.
[48:35] And I believe the sisters are also behind us, which means there will be more cars than
[48:44] Thank you.
[48:54] Thank you.
[49:02] I like to make sure that you guys all have the letter that I wrote in the email to you.
[49:08] My parents and so forth.
[49:11] I've created a good point before about time and how long has it been in front of you?
[49:17] And I just wrote down now, time is not the factor, the truth is the factor.
[49:24] And this process still is not complete.
[49:28] If you go through the environmental form, they don't mention the stone house.
[49:34] They didn't mention lasher house.
[49:36] There was going to be blasting, there's not going to be blasting.
[49:40] If you go through the storm again, one of them says that there isn't going to be any trees
[49:45] cut down.
[49:45] And there's not going to be any existing vegetation and I'm going to get to what I'm going to keep going.
[49:53] Oh, it's just the natural barriers that there's not going to be taken down.
[50:01] I'm surprised too that the last meeting of out of people from Blue Mountain less sorrows were here and spoke for the project, which is fine.
[50:10] I don't have a problem with that, but you're moving 187 trees on the projects, replacing them with a middle amount of trees, they don't give you the size of the trees that are replacing it with.
[50:23] So I'd like to know where all these environmentalists are that didn't want trees taken down because of solar arrays, that didn't want trees taken down because of housing developments.
[50:34] Now, the sudden trees don't matter to them, because the word of the day is senior housing and affordable housing, which is fine.
[50:44] But I think you have to keep things in respect.
[50:48] I know the word they're getting their number of units.
[50:52] 122 doesn't drive the billable acreage on the product.
[50:56] I talked to the town, 122 units need 1.5 cars parked next to your 182.
[51:08] This doesn't even come close to 182 without putting visitor parking in points.
[51:14] So, why would you change zoning?
[51:17] It doesn't make any sense to me.
[51:18] And I'm not the smartest guy here, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
[51:22] why would you change zoning for something as being presented to you that's a false narrative?
[51:29] I just don't understand that. Let them get their homework done. Come back with something that
[51:36] is acceptable to move through the planning process and take it from that point.
[51:42] I realize the time has been a lapse, but the time has been a lapse because of their negligence
[51:52] and not providing me with the correct information.
[51:56] So if my task is all tough, I think this would move a little quicker as well.
[52:02] And you're throwing it on the planet.
[52:05] You're saying, give us what you want, we're going to throw it to the planet and let them
[52:11] work their way through it. I don't think this will dissolve in change is the way that should work
[52:17] and I think that would be an injustice not only to myself as a taxpayer because I don't have any
[52:23] bested interest in this but just as a taxpayer what is going to bring down the road so thank
[52:56] you
[53:10] All right, so that's really based on both of their hands.
[53:13] Only their head and hairy.
[53:15] Yes, yes.
[53:17] We can hear you.
[53:18] Well, I was young.
[53:20] Remember when school had out.
[53:24] What did this summer.
[53:26] A bus of the sisters would come down.
[53:30] That account.
[53:33] What about.
[53:36] Oh, cars.
[53:38] After the summer was over when they put back.
[53:42] One bus, one down, one pick them all up,
[53:48] no traffic, no, I think what, heavy traffic, like, we're looking at it.
[53:53] The years, the years, the years, what, what, what, and you say you did a traffic study,
[54:05] do you, you know, we all know that the child care has increased.
[54:11] How many people, madam parents, do you know that takes care of their grandchildren since the parents cannot afford child care?
[54:24] That would be traffic every morning, traffic, the way up for you to pick them up.
[54:32] there are many, many grandparents taking care of their children. This is just too big for that
[54:40] area. And we all are so fortunate to have the Hudson River, a part of Sloganix. I mean,
[54:50] think about the Hudson River, a part of Sloganix. And it's like we, for Ireland, they have new,
[54:59] to lead by, and I look across from the Blasto park all the way down and support the change
[55:12] the zoning, it's going to have a simple effect on the property next to the last warehouse,
[55:22] 18 acres, sold them four days. Let's go walk together a little more
[55:36] They say, well, it's not accessible.
[55:41] It is.
[55:42] If people are down across the street from the Bauhaus.
[55:48] People that have birch street across the street from the Bauhaus come up a little bit.
[55:54] There's a dead end right away.
[55:56] So we took all that property.
[55:59] going to the long back.
[56:03] It's been there for a couple of days.
[56:07] Well, the nature of the
[56:08] project sleeps in all sorts of places. I doubt we know which is thrown out, but it's there.
[56:16] Quite a way to stop that time for us for you. So you can go ahead. Okay. Thank you.
[56:21] Okay.
[56:28] Linda Dorno.
[56:29] I don't know.
[56:36] Here we go.
[56:46] Very much.
[56:47] This is Ian.
[56:48] Okay.
[56:49] Very abruptly.
[56:52] Sister.
[56:53] Sister.
[56:59] Good evening.
[56:59] Thank you.
[57:00] I'm sister.
[57:01] Everybody back later.
[57:02] I'm continuing sister.
[57:03] I'm starting to review up.
[57:05] And I'm hearing the favorite project.
[57:08] As you will provide affordable senior housing.
[57:12] Senior and counseling.
[57:13] They said it's easier.
[57:15] In all street housing.
[57:17] And we will know that.
[57:19] The begging documents are coming on the page and we'll be looking for housing.
[57:25] The sisters are not looking to move up here, sister, you said earlier, you've had any quick
[57:31] provisions down in the month that can't be air yet for our sisters, and it can't be anything
[57:38] to go before.
[57:40] But up here in the cost of accounting and facilities, the need for senior housing is important.
[57:47] And so, we would like to see our property
[57:51] to realize we work with affordable season.
[57:55] Thank you.
[57:57] Thank you.
[58:02] Sister Keigh.
[58:25] Sister Keigh.
[58:27] That's just more exciting.
[58:30] Very good.
[58:31] Okay.
[58:32] Here.
[58:33] Here.
[58:34] Hi, Sister Keigh.
[58:35] And this is Mrs. Professor Spongebob.
[58:37] And I have worked at the appointment.
[58:39] He is on school.
[58:41] He is in school.
[58:41] He is in school.
[58:43] He is in school.
[58:43] One, I don't know how much that even means for a shared house.
[58:48] I think that was what I said, I can't understand now.
[58:51] And by the privilege of this shared house.
[58:53] What?
[58:54] When I first came, which was 25 years ago,
[58:58] I went to them and they said, you know,
[59:00] if you want to walk the residents,
[59:04] we have a community that is evil,
[59:06] but can we have a kid?
[59:07] And you're more than welcome at any time.
[59:10] and it was helpful to walk there,
[59:12] you could sit in the casino and you can look at the river.
[59:15] No one ever said, yes, no, thank you.
[59:20] Not there, go jump on the lake.
[59:22] So we had never any response.
[59:25] I mean, and we all knew we'd walk the ice,
[59:28] where that should have supposed to be.
[59:29] So I don't know where that house is staying at.
[59:32] Two, we have all ways to get things from the spectra when people know that I'm supporting
[59:43] later.
[59:45] We moved in in 1931 and we put the work out from last place all the way up to my door.
[59:54] We gave it and we maintained it until I was eight, maybe 10 years from the end.
[1:00:00] That's something down the road to the end. But no one who came in, in the built their phones,
[1:00:07] or took over, I think that would say that you're there, said, how many paid for the water?
[1:00:13] And then I had a water bill, which I cared about. And it wasn't until it. It wasn't until 10 years ago,
[1:00:23] and so did it still go. We also had to pay $10,000. When we were in it, get the water pipe up
[1:00:30] up to the sporting lane.
[1:00:32] All right.
[1:00:33] I don't care what Maria says.
[1:00:35] That's the answer to God's truth.
[1:00:38] So I mean, when I'm running on extra money anyway,
[1:00:42] but we're trying to do the best to get to see the housing.
[1:00:47] I think it's the house.
[1:00:49] I don't know what you can do.
[1:00:50] All right.
[1:00:52] So we're going to have to order for this to be successful.
[1:00:55] We have to be able to dump so far your comments are directed to the board.
[1:00:59] or please go ahead and interrupt the speakers.
[1:01:01] Sorry, I have a question.
[1:01:02] I'm sorry, that's okay.
[1:01:04] I haven't seen the housing class.
[1:01:06] And we
[1:01:10] do not have a lot of traffic, right?
[1:01:13] I thought it was, I've got to go ahead and get it.
[1:01:16] So, nothing else, but that's a car in and out.
[1:01:20] I mean, some of the cars, they have never been twice.
[1:01:24] So, when you're looking at cars,
[1:01:26] where they're coming from, there's not that many, right?
[1:01:30] And that senior has, and that's a foreign senior house, otherwise it wouldn't be big.
[1:01:35] Right, yeah.
[1:01:36] I've seen kids on the roads waiting in school, what's the center of the day?
[1:01:41] And there doesn't seem to have to make this problem on picking up the youngsters.
[1:01:47] Maybe at the beginning of a sporting lane, they could move to the right, on the lane,
[1:01:53] and the bus is not allowed to go on a trip, which it does anyway.
[1:01:57] And they got the children there.
[1:01:58] I don't know.
[1:01:59] It's a work of.
[1:02:01] But I think we have an option to do something good for people.
[1:02:05] What do the people have?
[1:02:07] No phones.
[1:02:08] Who have no?
[1:02:14] People have the issue.
[1:02:15] People have the day.
[1:02:16] So we have an opportunity where we can help people.
[1:02:19] There is one thousand.
[1:02:22] And I think it should be done.
[1:02:24] Thank you.
[1:02:25] Thank you.
[1:02:29] Assistant, background.
[1:02:41] Assistant, kind of, on the American sisters of our field.
[1:02:45] And I just had really two points.
[1:02:48] What is that we've had a lot of experience in building and managing senior housing for
[1:02:54] 40 years.
[1:02:56] And there have been many, many seniors who have had wonderful lives, we pose at that.
[1:03:02] That's one point.
[1:03:03] So I think we do know what we're doing in an area.
[1:03:05] area. Secondly, someone mentioned before, every year there are more and more baby boomers
[1:03:12] turning senior citizens. And as that population continues to aid, more and more senior students
[1:03:19] going to be needed. I was talking to someone earlier and she mentioned something that came
[1:03:24] up at the meeting in September, that, you know, she had a loan in her house and would love to have
[1:03:31] senior citizen apartments to go to and let her house be born by a family who could fill it up
[1:03:38] again as her family was at one point and now she's by herself. So I think when we look at moving
[1:03:44] forward, where are senior citizens going to go? It's a beautiful piece of land and we're willing
[1:03:52] to build it and manage it in the same way we've done previously with other housing. Thank you.
[1:04:04] Everyone on
[1:04:31] my hand is everyone around to go for some of you might know me as many as
[1:04:35] upon.
[1:04:36] I am as far as the many differences very well.
[1:04:39] I was in the 16th and within the three years.
[1:04:43] I worked with them.
[1:04:44] I lived with them.
[1:04:46] They were redeveloped.
[1:04:48] I'm going to talk about the project.
[1:04:50] It isn't really a benefit.
[1:04:52] It's for the safety of citizens.
[1:04:55] We use more seems housing here.
[1:04:57] I live and see happen. We have already less. One and a half two years. The milk has a way to dress.
[1:05:10] See the house. They need a place to be safe. A place where they can afford to pay for it.
[1:05:20] When you need it, it also will be the senior.
[1:05:24] And are you going to help?
[1:05:28] I hope that this project has helped remove.
[1:05:31] You see the need for it.
[1:05:34] And you talk about having, you know, about the far from it,
[1:05:38] I'm talking about places.
[1:05:41] They seniors do not provide.
[1:05:43] So you're not going to have to track it.
[1:05:48] Well, this end is very important.
[1:05:50] As I can say, he will continue to develop.
[1:05:54] I've been learning and seeing how to do the time in years.
[1:05:59] And it was wonderful, and it's been a wonderful experience.
[1:06:03] This is a place he's been talking to you about,
[1:06:09] you know, the fire.
[1:06:11] I have the ability on this three boards.
[1:06:15] We have never had a fire in the bottom pole.
[1:06:20] The house on small and rainy is three floors.
[1:06:27] The house, I believe, is a stump house.
[1:06:30] So that house is very safe.
[1:06:34] The house is at the central building.
[1:06:37] We'll be safely.
[1:06:39] Find all the fire poles.
[1:06:43] Don't reject this project.
[1:06:46] It is very important, and then it's needed.
[1:06:50] And again, one day you will need to see them housing.
[1:06:55] And they need to study any more and more.
[1:06:58] Where are you going to go?
[1:07:02] Thank you.
[1:07:04] Thank you.
[1:07:08] Sister Nancy.
[1:07:30] Good evening.
[1:07:32] Thank you very much for allowing us to have this opportunity to come to you again tonight.
[1:07:38] Many of our school kids have spoken in a way that there have been some valid points
[1:07:46] for them by both sides, and I think it's great that everyone has a chance to bring them
[1:07:50] up.
[1:07:51] But I do want to say that some of what has been said has been said in the realm of we know
[1:07:58] the system very well, and this is what they're doing, it's not transparent, it's not this.
[1:08:06] the one thing is the making systems of Spark Hill are about is vision.
[1:08:13] That has never changed.
[1:08:17] Since 1876, we've found it to have widows and orphans on the streets of New York City.
[1:08:25] That has been our mission.
[1:08:27] How we use our resources to benefit of those who are less fortunate than we are or are in need.
[1:08:38] One of the things that was brought up tonight was for village, and I just like to say that
[1:08:44] yes, for village is unhousing, but it has always been unhousing, it never changed.
[1:08:54] And because it's so important to our mission, the land that that housing stands for was
[1:09:00] story by us, there was no profit involved. Another housing unit that we had, we could
[1:09:08] no longer care for both for residents. We were asked at the time that another time
[1:09:16] probably was taking over, okay, sisters, what do you need for this? We said nothing.
[1:09:22] We want the mission to continue. So for us, this is not about profit. It's not about
[1:09:29] Again, someone said, it's not about our own personal needs, I'm a little shocked that I'm a baby boomer, and I need a place to some time to put my head.
[1:09:42] But the thing is, it's always about wishing for us, and it always will be.
[1:09:49] You know, which way things go, that probably will hopefully be able to use the commission.
[1:09:56] Thank you.
[1:10:03] So
[1:10:14] my name is Diane as well, I'm here because I'm here about affordable housing.
[1:10:22] Was mentioned today that somebody said, oh, well, these units aren't even ready affordable
[1:10:27] but as Matthew Westwood said, they're going by the state and local guidelines.
[1:10:34] Affordable does not mean poor people, some people would be very amazed at the income level
[1:10:41] that is still considered proper form of housing.
[1:10:45] It's not for poor people, it's not for low income people,
[1:10:49] but we need this kind of housing for the people
[1:10:53] and the sorrows.
[1:10:54] Everybody agrees that it is about where it goes
[1:10:57] and who's managing it.
[1:11:00] Somebody said that we were being juped
[1:11:05] and that the Dominican sisters were going to,
[1:11:07] this was going to likely be managed by somebody else
[1:11:10] and it wasn't going to be mission-driven.
[1:11:12] I see no evidence of that.
[1:11:14] And I did go onto the website of Crow America,
[1:11:17] which is the natural profit organization
[1:11:19] that the systems have partnered with.
[1:11:22] And their mission also is improving communities
[1:11:27] as a system mission of the African sisters.
[1:11:32] That's all I have to say.
[1:11:33] Thank you.
[1:11:34] Thank you.
[1:11:35] Thank you.
[1:11:37] Stand working.
[1:11:43] Thank you, Mr. Dan.
[1:11:51] You're welcome.
[1:12:07] I'm so sorry.
[1:12:12] Thank you.
[1:12:12] Yes, come on.
[1:12:14] Very.
[1:12:15] Mr.
[1:12:15] He's an active volunteer.
[1:12:18] He has an obligation with the fire department to see.
[1:12:22] So he had to leave early.
[1:12:24] He apologizes.
[1:12:25] He needs no disrespect.
[1:12:26] I should.
[1:12:27] So, Mr.
[1:12:27] Thank you. Come on.
[1:12:29] Thank you.
[1:12:30] Oh, okay.
[1:12:40] Yeah. All right.
[1:12:41] You pass as well. Okay.
[1:12:44] Louise Friedman.
[1:12:46] I stood side of the wrong sheet.
[1:12:49] I thought I was so I'd I'd have signs to speak.
[1:12:52] Okay.
[1:12:55] Susan Ronaldo.
[1:13:04] I initially said that I'm going to speak because I'm very good track record.
[1:13:08] with the zoning board or with the town board,
[1:13:12] they regards to new businesses in their homes.
[1:13:17] But I live on the road that smells parallel to smuggling lane.
[1:13:22] When I walk down the smuggling lane,
[1:13:24] it's a beautiful quiet place.
[1:13:27] The residents from very, very, very upset.
[1:13:30] I just spoke to many of them.
[1:13:32] My main concern is if you change the zoning laws,
[1:13:36] We don't need so many laws in the first place that they were just going to change that, and I think that we need to be very careful that nobody else feels on the rest of the property.
[1:13:46] Basically, thank what the residents are saying is they're going to build this, build it in a much smaller scale than what you think.
[1:13:54] Thank you.
[1:13:55] Thank you.
[1:14:20] But as you can see, I would like to thank you so much.
[1:14:25] It's our part here.
[1:14:27] Okay.
[1:14:28] This is still too bad.
[1:14:30] So many of you say, great water.
[1:14:32] I have now to use filter water.
[1:14:36] And I can see even if I need to take care of my house.
[1:14:40] You look at a ranch.
[1:14:41] We have three bathrooms.
[1:14:45] and the use of yellow, you know, just watch.
[1:14:48] One of the bathrooms, you don't want to leave.
[1:14:50] Now every other day, or every third day,
[1:14:53] I have to do all those toilets.
[1:14:56] Somewhere on one corner, so the people building.
[1:15:00] The water has been affected. I recently ordered a thing to put my refrigerator so that that so that we can drink just, um, filter water. So, some things happen, which so much building. And I just wanted to know that. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:15:22] looks
[1:15:31] like a G.
[1:15:43] It's a T.
[1:15:47] Lives on 47's.
[1:15:49] Falling lane.
[1:15:53] Maybe first initial T.
[1:16:00] I'm here.
[1:16:07] Okay.
[1:16:08] Very.
[1:16:13] We'll.
[1:16:14] We'll stick to the order and then we'll come back.
[1:16:18] There's a gentleman on line who signed up to speed.
[1:16:22] Jeffrey.
[1:16:28] Yes, I can hear you. Can everyone hear me?
[1:16:31] Thank you very much. Thank you, Supervisor Costello and members of the town board.
[1:16:37] Thanks for this opportunity to speak.
[1:16:40] First, I would like to preface our remarks by saying that we seen the cuts and has had a lot of dealings with the Dominican sisters over several years.
[1:16:50] and we find them to be of the highest integrity, and we would have no question about their
[1:16:57] motives for trying to develop this property. They're good stewards of the land there,
[1:17:03] and the scene that cuts and appreciates all the interactions we've had over the years.
[1:17:08] We submitted comments back in December 6, 2022, and we appreciate that the applicant has taken
[1:17:15] in several steps intended to address those concerns.
[1:17:19] They've moved the southernmost buildings,
[1:17:21] three and four about 30 feet to the north
[1:17:24] so that they're a little bit farther away
[1:17:25] from the falling waters preserve, which we own.
[1:17:29] Also, they moved the dumpsters 20 feet from the property line
[1:17:32] and provided some screening with an eight foot fence
[1:17:34] and plantings.
[1:17:35] They're committing to dark sky lighting or equivalent
[1:17:38] to keep the site looking as dark as possible
[1:17:43] when viewed from offsite in the evening and they've agreed to produce a sign with the hours
[1:17:48] of our preserve and park rules and post it where their trail enters our preserve so that the
[1:17:55] residents of this site will understand how to responsibly use the preserve. We want to also
[1:18:02] go to paraphrase what I've submitted formally in writing. We're very much interested in protection
[1:18:08] of scenic resources, particularly views from into scenic areas of statewide significance
[1:18:16] and national historic landmarks, and this project is within the Ulster North scenic area
[1:18:21] of statewide significance on the slopes of the Hudson River, and it's predominantly visible
[1:18:27] from the Hudson River National Historic landmark across the river.
[1:18:31] We only received the visual simulations yesterday.
[1:18:35] In fact, we have not been notified of this public hearing, nor the public hearing on September 6th, and I'll get to that a little bit later.
[1:18:46] So we just received the simulations, our initial review finds we were surprised that the buildings, the northern most buildings were so visible from Tivoli landing, which is a public park within the National Historic Landmark District.
[1:19:01] We were always under the impression that these buildings would be screened by existing trees.
[1:19:06] And the simulations also show that the proposed buildings are substantially larger than the existing structure
[1:19:13] that's proposed for demolition.
[1:19:16] Given the potential for adverse visual impact on the National Historic Landmark,
[1:19:21] and the projects need for US Army Corps of Engineers permit,
[1:19:24] a review will be required under the provisions of Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act
[1:19:30] of 1966. During this review with the National Park Service Determines that the visual impact
[1:19:37] would be constitute a direct effect on the National Historic Landmark, then Section 110F
[1:19:44] would need to be complied with, and that requires a more stringent look at how the impact
[1:19:52] would be avoided or mitigated, and those details will be in our letter. In the statement that
[1:19:59] we've already emailed to the supervisor.
[1:20:01] We also recommend that if it is not already done so,
[1:20:04] the village, the town and or applicants should
[1:20:08] apprise the village of Tivoli across the river
[1:20:11] so that they're aware of this rezoning petition
[1:20:13] and so that they can participate in the review.
[1:20:16] As I mentioned previously, we did not receive public notice
[1:20:19] of this public hearing.
[1:20:20] As a result, our staff hasn't had an opportunity
[1:20:22] to really give this the application a thorough review.
[1:20:26] given that we respectfully ask that with the upcoming holidays, the town board
[1:20:31] keep this public hearing open another 60 days so that we can give this review
[1:20:36] that it deserves. Just to conclude, we're well aware of Ulster County's pressing
[1:20:43] need for affordable housing. In fact, senior housing, I see the cuts and deems this
[1:20:47] critical need in the Hudson Valley and Ulster County. We applaud the
[1:20:52] sisters for working to address that need.
[1:20:55] That said, the project site is constrained by several things, federal wetlands, a floodplain
[1:21:00] steep slopes.
[1:21:02] These all limit the suitable areas for building, the sites between the end of a cul-de-sac with
[1:21:06] an established neighbor of single-family homes and falling waters preserved.
[1:21:11] And finally, to reiterate, being that the site is in the Ulster North, scenic area of statewide
[1:21:15] significance and directly opposite the Hudson River National Historic Landmark district,
[1:21:20] these reviews are required. That's it.
[1:21:25] I'm good here. You'll get my comments. Thank you
[1:21:28] very much. Notice that I got an email from you as we move her up. Oh, excuse me. They
[1:21:36] add that to direct. Thank you. I'll go on mute now.
[1:21:41] Okay. Margot is satch.
[1:21:56] Good evening, everyone.
[1:21:58] I'm delighted to be in so many, I love so many, it's very much.
[1:22:02] I am a Dominican sister of Spark Film.
[1:22:05] I was the administrator of the phone lawyers,
[1:22:09] St Joseph's four years, and I know some of you well from that.
[1:22:14] And it was a privilege and an honor to be able to be on this land,
[1:22:20] this peaceful place.
[1:22:21] But I also, in my later life,
[1:22:24] managed senior housing. And I have to say for 21 years, after leaving here, I went and
[1:22:31] managed a housing project of the Dominican Sisters called Bell and Gardens.
[1:22:37] Bell and Gardens is for enriched living for seniors. It's affordable housing.
[1:22:43] 44% of the housing at the apartments in downtown are below market for Rockland County.
[1:22:52] And it's a love and place, but the thing I want to tell you about is the gratitude you've
[1:22:58] given on the mansion, how grateful families are, and the young mothers, mostly mothers,
[1:23:04] have a place to be.
[1:23:06] And then the mothers are so grateful, too, because they have one another, it's one to be
[1:23:12] home.
[1:23:13] I can remember Angel Love, I can remember her saying to people, you don't want to be living
[1:23:20] be with your daughter. You don't want to be having those kids around this way. You can be yourself
[1:23:26] and you can live the life you want. I just want to let you know that it really is a wonderful
[1:23:31] opportunity to now see your house make a new name. Well, but then for our spouse, come and voice
[1:23:38] doubts come and everybody, it just come to cut and it's a wonderful food and I do want you to consider it
[1:23:45] thank you.
[1:23:53] Thank you sister Jeanne Shad.
[1:24:06] Thank you now.
[1:24:10] My name is sister Jeanne Shad and I'm one of the
[1:24:13] Dominican sisters I was here on September 6th and I'd like to
[1:24:19] at that time I reiterated how I enjoyed bringing the people
[1:24:24] here to enjoy the property of the same Joseph.
[1:24:26] and this project respects the natural open surroundings.
[1:24:33] While we are here applying for high density zoning chain,
[1:24:36] we're only building and having people I understand
[1:24:38] on 4% of the property.
[1:24:41] In fact, the 122 number of proposed residents
[1:24:45] is not that much higher than the number of vacationers
[1:24:48] or retreatants from way back in the olden days before I started to come.
[1:24:53] There was great numbers of sisters that would come up ahead.
[1:24:55] At the last meeting, I spoke about the importance of senior housing based on my own mother's experience at Dallard Gardens in Swarmville and have this proposed a project in very much line with our mission and legacy.
[1:25:10] Dallard is situated right next to our property at Dominican County.
[1:25:16] We are the neighbors in this case, as well as Thor Village, which has been in our position.
[1:25:24] We are the neighbors on one side and there are neighbors like you because it's on the other side and for 40 years we have lived in a mutually beneficial peaceful coexistence.
[1:25:40] We get along fine. There are no incidents complaints or negative feedback and sometimes someone's family is able to move in.
[1:25:49] It's still all just worked.
[1:25:51] The residents and their families have helped the local economy.
[1:25:57] So it's a win-win.
[1:25:58] Thank you very much for your consideration.
[1:26:01] Thank you.
[1:26:05] That is also a list of the folks you've signed up to,
[1:26:08] the draft support.
[1:26:10] Has anyone who has not had the opportunity to speak
[1:26:12] would like to, I know there's someone
[1:26:16] who has submitted it down, which is...
[1:26:18] Has to remind me that my hands are very slow.
[1:26:22] Okay.
[1:26:23] It's part of it.
[1:26:27] It's great about it.
[1:26:30] So should we get extra mana?
[1:26:31] I live in the other house,
[1:26:33] faculty understand at the end of the street,
[1:26:34] which is about 8 feet off the side
[1:26:37] of their current driveway.
[1:26:40] When that expands,
[1:26:41] that's going to be difficult,
[1:26:43] as far as traffic moving in and out.
[1:26:46] But the point that I want to make is
[1:26:48] up back to the resources
[1:26:49] of the emergency services
[1:26:52] the laser house.
[1:26:54] I know it was hard getting records from EMT to people as far as how many balls they got down there, but
[1:27:03] discussing with management going over their records, they get four to five emergency to the hospital
[1:27:08] calls every month for only eight residents. And those residents at times have had to sit down in that
[1:27:17] hospital for about 11 hours before anybody can pick them up to bring them back home again.
[1:27:22] We're only talking eight residents, the emergencies, and I'm not talking fire trucks or police
[1:27:29] they go down there as well.
[1:27:31] This is just yes.
[1:27:33] So if you add another now 300 people, or however many are going to occupy these 1202 apartments
[1:27:39] to see your people, we're really tapping our sources of emergency care.
[1:27:46] We don't have people entering the field for fire trucks and development fire departments
[1:27:51] emergency services. This is critical. This is a really bad scene and we've seen cars
[1:27:59] from flying out of there at such speed at times and they're vans for emergency reasons
[1:28:05] or whatever. There's traffic coming up from the Dominicans there where there is nothing
[1:28:10] at this point. We're going to have major head-on collisions, not only on our corner, on
[1:28:16] right there at the gate, but out on my W as well, trying to get out of this traffic to go
[1:28:22] Kingston away. The turning is impossible on that road on a weekend. You have holidays,
[1:28:28] you have summers, you can't get out of that street. Now you've got senior housing and then
[1:28:33] all the trucks and facilities that are going to come into this for all of us, for abuse to
[1:28:39] describing on this road. So making this lumpy on turns is going to be fatal. If little children
[1:28:44] that live right on that corner that are playing out in that throat all time.
[1:28:49] There's going to be fatalities and blood on people's hands because these people fly up
[1:28:54] and down these roads, they don't consider traffic speeds, even coming out of the dragway
[1:29:00] from the Lashar House.
[1:29:01] I've had to beg them.
[1:29:02] Please, this isn't the through it.
[1:29:03] Please go slow.
[1:29:05] Same thing for Dominic in some time.
[1:29:07] They can fly it up out of that throat, and it's only going to get worse as long as this
[1:29:14] Oh, you can play that.
[1:29:16] Folks, we're doing great.
[1:29:20] And most importantly, please show a seat courage to every speaker.
[1:29:24] The point is, I have Peter, because someone coming up from their drive several years ago, skipped the road and came right between our gate and our house and ran over our stone wall and busted the whole top off.
[1:29:39] We're that close to the edge of that driveway and I'm here for a building that I'm historically
[1:29:45] preserving right now that's going to be registered.
[1:29:49] Thank you.
[1:29:49] Thank you.
[1:29:55] But is there anyone else who has not spoken yet would like to speak?
[1:30:00] Excuse
[1:30:03] me, can you please say your name?
[1:30:08] I have a question for those of you against. What have you got against vote?
[1:30:30] We are for our lives.
[1:30:32] We are for our lives.
[1:30:34] We are for our lives.
[1:30:34] We are for our lives.
[1:30:34] Thanks for having us.
[1:30:36] Dr.
[1:30:39] Matthew Lloyd.
[1:30:41] We're going to have Candos built.
[1:30:46] The luxury Candos built there,
[1:30:48] which is very well could happen.
[1:30:50] And I agree there may be more,
[1:30:52] much more traffic.
[1:30:54] Well, it's being built.
[1:30:55] But if you notice what's going on
[1:30:57] the rest of it.
[1:31:01] like we've had the apartments, they started in the spring, and they're living in them now.
[1:31:08] And let's get north to you. It's just incredible how fast it goes. I don't think there's going
[1:31:14] to be a lot more traffic once it's done as they were talking. Thank you very much.
[1:31:27] We have Joseph, the list of folks who signed up, this is the last time we're going to ask,
[1:31:38] I've got a quick question, was there notifications to
[1:31:45] the
[1:31:50] public of this hearing?
[1:31:59] 500 feet at the end or?
[1:32:03] No, they're here at the public meeting.
[1:32:08] They were said, everybody would invite
[1:32:10] what it would bring, which is supposed to get publicly
[1:32:13] notified of the public hearing.
[1:32:16] Nobody would notify me.
[1:32:18] So forward, we are contemplating, it's none.
[1:32:22] It's the only cheat.
[1:32:24] The rules that are strictly going on,
[1:32:25] there's only cheat that are different
[1:32:27] than the rules that will restrict savings.
[1:32:30] If a project like this was proposed, and they were seeking approvals from the planning board for site plan use,
[1:32:38] they would be obligated to notify the neighbors by certified mail, but if I were to receive it.
[1:32:43] For this process, that is not an open order. Why nobody?
[1:32:47] We know we do notify. We notify everyone in the same manner to be notified.
[1:32:55] and we did that consistently without
[1:32:57] done it in years past intentionally.
[1:32:59] It'll want you to apply any effort other than that.
[1:33:06] Okay.
[1:33:07] Thank you.
[1:33:10] Okay.
[1:33:11] Anyone else who has not spoken, please say to me when you get some microphone.
[1:33:23] The Lord is in our shape for it, and I am fully opposed to the news online, and I'm
[1:33:29] And I'm really kind of sad that I almost feel like we have a lack of respect as neighbors.
[1:33:37] It's like everything is for it.
[1:33:39] All of us on that lane works very hard to live in that quiet place.
[1:33:46] And I think it's crap that we feel like we're just being pushed under the road for this to go through.
[1:33:53] Yes, we do need a Florida health procedure. Most of us are seniors. But come on, you know,
[1:34:00] it's like there's so much developing going on in bark and bites. Really, do we need it here?
[1:34:09] We just work so hard for where we live and our whole to be destroyed by this.
[1:34:16] Thank you.
[1:34:25] Anyone else says not, had the opportunity to direct support, do it like you.
[1:34:32] I know, Mr. Chandler, I'm going to do a comment, Mr. Chandler, I have a question, are your comments
[1:34:35] written?
[1:34:37] Okay.
[1:34:38] Perfect.
[1:34:40] Okay.
[1:34:41] Unless someone else in the room wanted to direct support, you guys not be out of the opportunity,
[1:34:45] I think we're going to close the public hearing this evening.
[1:34:47] Is there a agreement?
[1:34:48] Is there a agreement?
[1:34:48] I'm going to make the motion discussion.
[1:34:51] Is there a agreement on the most support that we're close to this evening?
[1:34:54] Does anyone want to make a comment?
[1:34:55] before we do that. Okay.
[1:35:03] I'm sorry. This is the board now. Okay. We did not speak out
[1:35:12] less. Okay. Okay. There's been a motion meeting. All the favors say aye. Any pose motion
[1:35:20] both of your detects. I
[1:35:25] want to thank everyone too for looking for our very
[1:35:27] very cordial and we appreciate that, thanks.