1 00:00:03,940 --> 00:00:14,620 Okay. At this time, I'm also going to have Steve and Keith. They are alternatives. No, you're abstain right now. Steve is, you're going to be voting member. 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:27,960 There is no old business at this time. So we shall move to the new business, which is a conception review. Ryan, this day in Fisher Road, new driveway permit. 3 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,120 Here is. All right. 4 00:00:40,770 --> 00:00:42,790 What would you like to see? 5 00:00:43,730 --> 00:00:50,570 Well, why don't you come on up and explain your project and let us know kind of what you need and what you're looking for? 6 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,360 Yeah. 7 00:00:55,540 --> 00:01:01,080 I don't know, just some rough drawings that I sketched up of roughly what the house would be. 8 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,620 There's kind of an exterior view. 9 00:01:04,460 --> 00:01:11,460 I changed the house layout, this is a more accurate plan for what the house would be. 10 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,400 I just gave it an idea of a footprint. 11 00:01:18,340 --> 00:01:25,900 It's kind of, these are two, like an aerial photo of my rough lot where my driveway would come 12 00:01:25,900 --> 00:01:26,400 up through. 13 00:01:26,940 --> 00:01:27,920 There's that landing. 14 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:30,380 But the logs have used last summer. 15 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:32,220 I was going to come right up along the right side. 16 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,480 There's an existing long road that continues right up to the woods. 17 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,080 and right up there on the hillside would be roughly where the house would go. 18 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,100 Where's kind of a... 19 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:45,420 Where on the shores is right at the bottom of the hill, right after the power lines on the right? 20 00:01:46,260 --> 00:01:48,940 It's the first log on the right after the mailbox. 21 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,600 It's the first log on the right. 22 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:52,560 It's the mailbox. 23 00:01:53,140 --> 00:01:53,380 Okay. 24 00:01:53,980 --> 00:01:55,660 The mailbox is in there, new place. 25 00:01:56,020 --> 00:01:56,180 Right. 26 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,020 It's also left at the mailbox, it's in there. 27 00:01:58,020 --> 00:01:58,900 Maybe you can pass it. 28 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,180 On the right. 29 00:02:24,940 --> 00:02:31,480 on the right as you go up there so you know you're here for concepts for you 30 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,740 So everything that we discussed right now is non-binding. 31 00:02:36,380 --> 00:02:40,760 You're kind of here to just ask the board what you need to do going forward 32 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,780 and anything that we say might change. 33 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,480 But this is to help you kind of through the process. 34 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:46,660 Exactly. 35 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,080 And I think it started off as a big understanding 36 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,960 where I didn't realize that when I got my driveway term 37 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,840 if I didn't get any permission to go in and just 38 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,120 I was going to remove the trees, 39 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,380 I had a cheap wood chip coming in as a chip on my brush on site and do that and I would 40 00:03:02,380 --> 00:03:06,980 come up with my wood chips to a large petrol on the sides of the driveway and whatnot. 41 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:14,220 And so I had gotten this building permit, the driveway permit on June 17th, I applied for 42 00:03:14,220 --> 00:03:19,640 it like three days after I purchased the land on June 4th and then when I spoke with, I 43 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:23,640 spoke with the road agent, I had spoke with Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, 44 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,100 Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, Rich, 45 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:31,780 design. And none of them had brought it up to my attention that I had to come to the 46 00:03:31,780 --> 00:03:37,380 planning board. And so I truly, I truly didn't know it was in every other town. This 47 00:03:37,380 --> 00:03:42,100 isn't the way I heard about it. And I'm going to want to know that. Well, that could do 48 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:47,180 you, but yeah, so he, he kind of was, he was in the, he's trying to do the right thing. 49 00:03:47,260 --> 00:03:54,300 Yeah, to quit with every trying to, he was subsequently approached me in a wrong way. But I, I mean, 50 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,960 I'm trying to be as compliant as I could. 51 00:03:58,220 --> 00:03:59,780 I mean, he had come up and spoke with me and said, 52 00:03:59,820 --> 00:04:00,560 hey, you're in the wrong. 53 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:02,540 And I said, could you please explain to me why? 54 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,500 And he's like, you should know better. 55 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:06,300 And I said, I honestly don't know why. 56 00:04:07,020 --> 00:04:09,660 I mean, I'm trying to be both friends, but it was gone 57 00:04:09,660 --> 00:04:11,080 about a couple of ways from my place. 58 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,920 And while we're told me that, I'm an effinitiate. 59 00:04:12,980 --> 00:04:13,860 And I should know better. 60 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,260 OK. 61 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,720 And at that point, I kind of just told him that. 62 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:17,800 So how do you do that? 63 00:04:19,940 --> 00:04:20,600 Well, you're here. 64 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:21,860 We're going to help you. 65 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,100 I'm not trying to like that's where then Richard came by and he was very nice 66 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:31,600 And I asked him I said could you please explain to me what I'm doing wrong because I said I'm 23 years old 67 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,400 I'm building this on my own. I just bought the property like I've never done this before 68 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,220 I truly don't understand what's not wrong 69 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:42,960 I said I'm not trying to fight anybody. Could you just you like explain it to me and he said because you're in the watershed 70 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,860 You need to go to the planet to approve everything first and I said okay. I said I truly didn't know so I called them following 71 00:04:49,260 --> 00:04:53,120 whatever. That would be a Monday. I called her on Monday. The next day, they were open 72 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,400 because this was for the July weekend. And I said, yeah, I got my building permit. I 73 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,680 earned my driveway permit. I said, I picked it up. I dropped it off. I said, nobody had 74 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,900 dropped this up to my attention. And she said, oh, I see the problem now. This is what you 75 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:07,540 mean. And she goes to a sticky note on my desk that says, you got to go to the planning 76 00:05:07,540 --> 00:05:11,160 board. And so I'm not trying to point fingers, but don't you think I should have known 77 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:18,380 about sticky note? I'm sorry. Like, I went in there. I mean, I rented a machine for three 78 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:24,900 days and I took the loss on that. I'm not trying to throw up a fight. There are movies 79 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:30,520 based on that. Yeah. I stopped. I've been on the property a couple of times to show my 80 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,980 grandmother who lives in Florida what it's like and things like that. My sister who lives 81 00:05:33,980 --> 00:05:38,780 out of state. But other than that, I haven't stopped work. I haven't done anything there. 82 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:43,720 But I guess what do you guys need to say? Do you need an engineered set of plans for the driveway 83 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,440 way before I go in and finish cleaning stuff up. 84 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Doesn't look like it. 85 00:05:48,580 --> 00:05:51,080 I mean, you are in the watershed protection district. 86 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:51,920 That's why I'm here. 87 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,020 And in my mind, there's two ordinances 88 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:57,440 that he would have to abide by, which 89 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,960 should have given you kind of let you know what you want. 90 00:06:01,020 --> 00:06:02,620 You need to kind of read and go through. 91 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,080 But we both, we all kind of wrote the ordinances, 92 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,060 so we know the rule. 93 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:13,160 And so I think the reason why you have 94 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,820 to come to review before the planning board is because if you are in any part of the watershed 95 00:06:18,820 --> 00:06:24,580 whatever construction you do, we have to make sure that it doesn't impact the lake in any way. 96 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:31,060 So what we're really concerned about is any type of disturbances that are done during the construction, 97 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:37,680 how you're going to take care of any runoff, where you are in relation to the lake, how far away 98 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:44,200 from the lake you are that would be very I don't know how big the site is you know the size of the 99 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:53,400 lot um I think that's basically it's 20 seconds and I recall the line it's 26 it's all a little 100 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,240 screen that runs through the so there's a lot it comes down and if you look at the driveway 101 00:07:00,940 --> 00:07:07,320 so the driveway that I was supposed like proposing to use was what the longer set used and I guess 102 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,940 to my knowledge, the town used to all grab a lot of theirs when I was told by a couple 103 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:16,100 of people. There is one stream on the right side and one stream on the left side, both 104 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:21,940 very close. But after that I get further away from them and the closest I get would be 105 00:07:21,940 --> 00:07:29,180 up by this house. I'm probably, I would say, I can't remember. I think it was almost 300 106 00:07:29,180 --> 00:07:34,660 feet away from that river. I mean, there's some wet spots down below here but I'm well 107 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:38,760 over 100 feet away from those the entire driveways far away from those it's 108 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,240 not changing the other two year driveways from Fisher Road how far 109 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:48,240 ways that from either war course the one on the right side is very close that 110 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,180 isn't about 20 feet is that the Biscuita Covert? No it's one okay that is it's it 111 00:07:53,180 --> 00:07:57,560 hasn't had water and it hasn't had water and it's since April okay it's the last 112 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,080 one that the town had ran there under drain into okay when they just already did 113 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,340 Well, the big one here is the Scatapag River. 114 00:08:03,620 --> 00:08:05,280 And I understand that. 115 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,200 And that's where I can go with it. 116 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Okay. 117 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:14,580 And that's where my intentions was, if I get the trees down, I'm not trying to be cheap about it. 118 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,140 But I'm trying to say as much as I can, especially when we're doing it ourselves. 119 00:08:17,460 --> 00:08:19,260 So it might get the trees removed. 120 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,240 And then I was going to take all the brush, chip all the brush. 121 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,080 That comes up with wood chips to be able to do a biobarm up the sides of the driveway. 122 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,780 Because it's faster, more efficient, more comfortable. 123 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,440 So are you going to do a new wetland crossings on the driveway? 124 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,400 not only when I had spoke with the road agent he discussed that even a 125 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,580 driveway caller wouldn't make sense since there's two rivers on both sides that 126 00:08:38,580 --> 00:08:42,460 cross the road you wouldn't want to put a driveway caller in and then a lot of 127 00:08:42,460 --> 00:08:46,840 water to go now in between the two streams which essentially the way the 128 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,420 driveway is now but close to the river is if it's in there's nothing that has to 129 00:08:50,420 --> 00:08:57,700 really be done there and you restricted when you say the your proximity to each 130 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:02,480 were very close on one and that's because just the road funder just such that 131 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,820 best life I've got almost 1600 feet of road funder to do but this is just 132 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:11,120 it's an existing driveway almost put in the longest one eight. 133 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,280 Luggers get different, they get different when they logged it last year they 134 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,880 opened it all up and so it's already opened it's already. 135 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,470 Luggers get to do different things because they're temperate and so I didn't I 136 00:09:21,470 --> 00:09:26,130 If you went on, if you had 16 on, this is just a conceptual discussion. 137 00:09:26,610 --> 00:09:30,390 So if you had 1600 feet of road funnage and you chose to go at different places 138 00:09:30,390 --> 00:09:34,590 to get to your proposed house site, you probably have to cross one of those. 139 00:09:34,930 --> 00:09:35,210 I would. 140 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:38,970 I might have to cross it multiple times because it's exact. 141 00:09:39,570 --> 00:09:40,390 I mean, it's very solid. 142 00:09:40,590 --> 00:09:43,230 The driveway that you chose is the path of least resistance. 143 00:09:43,250 --> 00:09:45,530 The path of least resistance is the least amount of dirt, 144 00:09:45,770 --> 00:09:47,690 the least amount of alteration of terrain. 145 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:58,390 It's essentially just stripping of loam and put some gravel in and I would propose of soil the uphill side of the driveway to controls water to not go 146 00:09:59,290 --> 00:10:01,130 Right down in that way it kind of we just 147 00:10:01,130 --> 00:10:07,370 I mean if you guys want us to see a driveway culvert halfway to drive ways about 148 00:10:10,970 --> 00:10:17,250 So that's some of the water still gets to the side or you're just doing a whole thing a slip of the drain and with the water floor 149 00:10:17,250 --> 00:10:20,990 What's he doing naturally? I mean what's he doing? Right now it honestly it just 150 00:10:20,990 --> 00:10:23,970 puddles because the logger's had gone through that that was their main 151 00:10:23,970 --> 00:10:26,610 access and they logged the back, the whole section of her project. 152 00:10:27,090 --> 00:10:31,790 Two, that's a lot number. Two 23. All right, I mean two 222 sorry, log 3. 153 00:10:33,510 --> 00:10:38,610 So is this big, is this big kind of one? Yeah, it's a new track. Okay. So they had logged 154 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:43,110 the last summer. I think Hartwood did it. They had logged all of the previous 155 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:47,450 on his property and they used my land that I own now is their access and their 156 00:10:47,450 --> 00:10:50,610 waterlanding so they had a road that went straight through directly across this 157 00:10:50,610 --> 00:10:53,870 river and then right up into the back of the property when they watered 158 00:10:53,870 --> 00:10:58,130 so it's now it's kind of worn out and it's like ruts and it's got just 159 00:10:58,130 --> 00:11:02,310 it burns on both sides the water now just kind of huddles up but it's all 160 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:07,110 gravel it just drains right into the ground for the most part yeah so he's 161 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:12,350 trying right now how much of it how much approval do you look at to get now is it 162 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:18,010 just to put your driveway in and you might go beyond that and get approval from the building site and all the 163 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:22,970 I mean well much of you are looking to be able to do now and talking to us to make a good idea. 164 00:11:23,230 --> 00:11:28,430 Yeah so my timeline I kind of put for myself was about three years is what I figured so I was 165 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:32,890 hoping that within this fall and summer and whatnot I would maybe go and get the trees down start 166 00:11:32,890 --> 00:11:37,030 getting some of the driveway cleaned up get it drivable get some access in there and whatnot and 167 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:41,510 then next summer maybe go as far as like going and deciding where my house is going to be get my full 168 00:11:41,510 --> 00:11:48,450 set of house plans that I decide I'm going to do my full site plan my set pick design my well my everything and then the fall of summer afterwards 169 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:53,230 It's going to be my full building permits my everything and that would be construction period 170 00:11:53,230 --> 00:11:55,910 But I was just hoping for the summer to be able to 171 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:59,830 Is the interest here your drive way is it pretty obvious? 172 00:11:59,950 --> 00:12:03,070 Oh, you can't say it's a good opportunity to drive by it. 173 00:12:03,070 --> 00:12:04,750 Yeah, maybe see everyone for the opportunity. 174 00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:08,970 Yeah, but the issue, I think that I would call you 175 00:12:09,830 --> 00:12:11,050 help to put them on. 176 00:12:11,370 --> 00:12:12,890 Were you moving some stumps around? 177 00:12:13,090 --> 00:12:15,470 So there's three stumps. 178 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:16,910 So actually there's five. 179 00:12:17,510 --> 00:12:19,030 There's two stumps that were on the right side 180 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:22,110 of the driveway about 150 feet off the road 181 00:12:22,110 --> 00:12:23,790 that the logs had pulled that were sitting there. 182 00:12:23,970 --> 00:12:25,550 I picked those up, moved them to the tree line. 183 00:12:26,110 --> 00:12:27,610 And then there's three stumps that were in the middle 184 00:12:27,610 --> 00:12:29,610 of the log landing that I pulled out. 185 00:12:30,010 --> 00:12:32,250 And I didn't go in far, they've gone 20 feet. 186 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:33,870 I pulled them out because I was going to take them, 187 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:37,150 put them with the rest of them on the tree line just so I didn't have something in the middle 188 00:12:37,150 --> 00:12:41,290 of the yard and I got them that far. I was up there for two hours until they shut me down. 189 00:12:41,530 --> 00:12:47,030 So I pulled those out, I picked up some sticks and slashed them and I mean I didn't get 190 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:47,470 much done. 191 00:12:47,890 --> 00:12:53,050 Let's see if we can explain a little bit about why, but what happened there would be happened. 192 00:12:53,610 --> 00:12:59,650 So as the chair explained to you, there's two warden twos, there's a throw from protection 193 00:12:59,650 --> 00:12:59,970 act. 194 00:12:59,970 --> 00:13:04,230 And that's basically protecting the lake in certain ways. 195 00:13:04,410 --> 00:13:12,670 And then everything that's in the watershed, all the area that dumps water into the lake is also covered. 196 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:28,690 And the goal of the watershed ordinance is to make certain that when you're all the terrain, any of the terrain within the watershed to do what you want to do, you do it in a way that minimizes or eliminates any possibility of increasing 197 00:13:29,550 --> 00:13:35,890 what they call non-point-source pollution, flow of sediment, flow of stuff into the lake. 198 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:42,050 So that means that before you can begin to disturb the terrain, which is pretty reasonable 199 00:13:42,050 --> 00:13:46,350 for both of those maps, you really have to come up to the top, but that's what we make 200 00:13:46,350 --> 00:13:50,830 sure that what you're playing on doing would need to criteria that the zoning ordinances 201 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:57,330 was get that talent adopted and they were supposed to work for us, and that was what 202 00:13:57,330 --> 00:13:58,870 that story was about. 203 00:13:59,030 --> 00:14:03,130 Yeah, and so Bob had, when he approached me, he told me, he said, you're pulling stumps 204 00:14:03,130 --> 00:14:07,790 out and you're burying them in the river, and then I was like, no, I'm not, I'm not burying 205 00:14:07,790 --> 00:14:08,510 stumps in the river. 206 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:09,850 I said, I pulled three stumps. 207 00:14:10,010 --> 00:14:10,830 You can see them right there. 208 00:14:10,910 --> 00:14:14,050 The other two stumps were, where they were out of the ground, they were just sitting there. 209 00:14:14,350 --> 00:14:15,490 I picked them up and I moved them. 210 00:14:15,690 --> 00:14:15,790 They were. 211 00:14:16,070 --> 00:14:16,770 The timer moved. 212 00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:18,570 The timer moved. 213 00:14:19,090 --> 00:14:24,110 I just want to make sure I don't make sure that story doesn't get pushed because I told him I said I'm not and he's a 214 00:14:24,110 --> 00:14:31,270 He could have been even if yeah, even if you weren't you would have taken a matter around and moving on my feet putting back down on the ground 215 00:14:39,830 --> 00:14:45,790 Not this game for like second. Yeah, I didn't I didn't know and when I before I purchased the property 216 00:14:45,790 --> 00:14:50,330 I spoke with the town and I spoke with the previous owners night asking what is this watershed 217 00:14:50,330 --> 00:14:53,790 And I've never ever heard of it before and never dealt with it in any other towns 218 00:14:53,790 --> 00:14:59,110 What's it consists of and they said your setbacks are more so good? Okay, so I setbacks on how 75 for dry 219 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:21,440 All right. All right. All right. All right. 220 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,280 certain that you've done it, that whatever water is going to be heading down that way is 221 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,320 controlled properly. 222 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,420 You want to make certain you don't need any wet ones, when actually you don't get 223 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:36,260 too close to any of the streams that are protected by the ordinance and if you're able to do that 224 00:15:36,260 --> 00:15:40,880 you should be able to go ahead and, that far and then as far as the clearing of the sites 225 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,620 concerned, we would have to share a talk about picking down trees and things like that, 226 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,980 outside my gateway. 227 00:15:47,320 --> 00:16:02,760 And there's about, let's see, there's 25, I have to count on that, I put a mark on every tree with a little dot of paint, so I can count along, I want to say there's about 25, I started taking down some trees because I didn't know, they're not big, they're far away from wetlands, they're neighbors from 8 to 10 inches. 228 00:16:03,940 --> 00:16:04,900 I was just all still there. 229 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:05,780 The stumps are all there. 230 00:16:06,460 --> 00:16:11,440 I mean, you have to look and see which ones are old and which ones are new from the loggers, but... 231 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,180 So it sounds like you're looking what you're going to be doing in phases, right? 232 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,680 So you would have to, I think this would be a minor CUP, right? 233 00:16:20,060 --> 00:16:22,820 Just for the driveway and you would do it in two steps. 234 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:25,280 I think that's the easiest thing for you to do. 235 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:31,320 So you would fill out a conditionally used permit application and follow that through. 236 00:16:32,540 --> 00:16:35,880 There's very clear instructions that tell you to be able to get back to you. 237 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:42,680 and you will describe now what you're going to do the improvements to the 238 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,100 drive like how you're going to mitigate any runoff you talked about the 239 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:56,280 berms that's very good the length the width and set back to the water all 240 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,700 practice all about storm water. I can reel along I gotta take your wheel on it and get 241 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:04,340 because there's still some previous flags that are up there from the 242 00:17:04,340 --> 00:17:10,180 that all the wetlands and the weather flagged out and whatnot, so I can, I can wheel off of that. 243 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:17,320 And what you guys do, and a erosion control inspection before any work and everything like that. 244 00:17:19,260 --> 00:17:21,500 And sometimes we do, sometimes we do. 245 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,440 I mean, we all kind of know where it is. 246 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,240 We can, we all drive by it. 247 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,740 We can all drive by it and take a peek and... 248 00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:32,540 If you have a map that shows us some tofu on it, then you look at that and see where the bar is going. 249 00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:33,840 And that was my other question. 250 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:37,480 I mean, I was trying to, I'm trying to pay the surveyors 251 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,200 once, so I was trying to get the site cleared. 252 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,080 I know this is my house location. 253 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,560 Pay them to come in and fulfill it. 254 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,480 And then, I'm going to do the subject design 255 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,880 and everything like that at the same time. 256 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:47,740 Instead of paying them to come in now, 257 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,680 fulfill the site to say, this is what great is. 258 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,460 This is what I'm changing. 259 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:52,480 Do you have a cigarette? 260 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,040 I do have a cigarette. 261 00:17:54,060 --> 00:17:55,820 So most of the areas are pretty savvy 262 00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:57,580 about what to ask for with waivers. 263 00:17:58,780 --> 00:18:05,500 So they will try to get as many waivers as possible, which will save you money in the end. 264 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:09,540 And if we need information, you know, the waivers are glad that you have to feel safe. 265 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:11,880 Most of ours will sit you on the road track. 266 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:14,800 Especially people who have presented the daring. 267 00:18:15,460 --> 00:18:18,860 I think the property is not... 268 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:20,240 Is it within the actual property? 269 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,060 Is it within the actual property? 270 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,520 It's not in the actual property. 271 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:26,780 It's only the water trade. 272 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:32,540 You're not within a hundred, two hundred and fifty feet of the age of the legs. 273 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,520 No, I can't even. 274 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:34,500 I can't see it. 275 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:36,940 It's almost like a one size difference. 276 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:37,400 It's almost like a one size difference. 277 00:18:37,540 --> 00:18:38,220 It's almost like a one size difference. 278 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,060 You're really getting to the fringe of it. 279 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,940 It's in the funnel. 280 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,380 It's in the funnel. 281 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:46,360 The river runs through the property. 282 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,180 It is a concern. 283 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,880 How do you feel about what's happening now? 284 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,020 You're feeling better about the process? 285 00:18:52,020 --> 00:18:56,740 Yes, I would much rather speak with you guys and the people before me. 286 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,280 You're sticking those in. 287 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:58,500 Yeah. 288 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Yeah. 289 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,800 I'm not trying to just be a young kid that comes in and says, oh, it wasn't me. 290 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,260 You can fault me. 291 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,880 We want to see if you want us to do. 292 00:19:07,340 --> 00:19:08,440 We want us to understand that. 293 00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:10,900 It's the summary of it. 294 00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:15,000 I would think if you could get the surveyor and their engineers into it all once. 295 00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:19,480 If you had an idea, we wanted to save time on two steps in money. 296 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:30,260 Yeah, my biggest thing was I was intending on building the driveway as long as I could afford 297 00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:34,560 and building houses as big as I could afford comfortably, not running myself drive. 298 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,220 You know, I don't know what this is, this is what I dream of, this is my dream location, this is everything. 299 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:45,720 But I mean, if it turned to it, maybe the driveway would fall a little bit shorter and end up down over here 300 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,620 instead of being you know up on the hill and maybe the house would end up being 301 00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:54,600 smaller and it wouldn't take up as much space and I don't exactly know yet. 302 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:02,500 Well I did it. It took me 25 years and I beat that. I'm not going to rush it. 303 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:11,080 You guys have done before retirement, yeah, it's like I hope I made it the same. 304 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:23,060 So does he need the driveway permit, just to access this, right, I mean, we don't want 305 00:20:23,060 --> 00:20:27,440 to hinder him being he will access this property, so I mean, if it's an existing road that's 306 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,420 a dance of a pathway, I mean, long needs to be stripped off. 307 00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:34,320 If you start to improve it, then you'll need some kind of proof. 308 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,960 You'll leave it as is and use it as is. 309 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:37,600 Sure, true. 310 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,300 Many of you start doing one development. 311 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Okay, you need a permit. 312 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Yeah, okay. 313 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:46,140 So if I do my tree removal, I'll work on doing that permit. 314 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:50,200 The CUP, if I do my tree removal, I get my wood chips 315 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,860 and everything like that. 316 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,200 I've got 400 feet of sill logs that are up there now. 317 00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:55,340 I was just, I wasn't going to do those all the way down 318 00:20:55,340 --> 00:20:56,060 the sides of the driveway. 319 00:20:56,140 --> 00:20:58,400 I did those up on the lower half of the house here. 320 00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:06,820 just so anything from the disturbance of the house would get cocked, but I didn't want to go and do those down the sides of the driveway, especially where it was already burned, now it wasn't. 321 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:17,040 I suggestion if I don't know how it's going to look a little bit bad in mind, but to the extent you would move trees and leave the stumps in the soil, 322 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:25,240 don't disturb the soil, you're in a much better ground because that basically leaves 323 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,020 the terrain to be able to continue to perform really good things. 324 00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:33,640 Maybe you stop pulling the stumps out, then you're in the watershed area where you're 325 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,980 like disturbing terrain and where questions can come up where you can do well. 326 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,000 Can you grind them down? 327 00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:41,820 Try the equivalent. 328 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,240 We can talk about that. 329 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,040 People have done it. 330 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:44,460 Sure. 331 00:21:44,460 --> 00:21:49,220 I've seen it done, takes forever, after horrible views. 332 00:21:49,540 --> 00:21:52,440 I mean, obviously, I've got to remove the stumps at some point where the house is 333 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:52,620 done. 334 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,640 And you drive way along. 335 00:21:53,860 --> 00:22:01,260 I mean, there is, I would say probably around 30 stumps in the property that are uprooted, 336 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:03,020 just sitting off to the sides from the longers. 337 00:22:03,180 --> 00:22:03,380 Sure. 338 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:07,020 And I mean, there's piles of stuff where they cross the river and they wind with their 339 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:08,200 escalators like the river. 340 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Take pictures. 341 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,400 I don't. 342 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:10,960 Document. 343 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,480 It is. 344 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,440 It is a mess right now, it's beyond a mess. 345 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,880 It drives me crazy, but... 346 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,580 It's very hard. 347 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:19,580 I heard notorious for making natural. 348 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:21,200 Yeah. 349 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,500 I mean, the tree cut, I was impressed by that. 350 00:22:25,060 --> 00:22:26,840 The trees that they left, and the trees that they took, 351 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,520 and I mean, that they made the property thinned out nice, 352 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:33,120 but as far as climbing us, it's... 353 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:34,040 How long ago was that cut? 354 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,960 I want to say August of last year. 355 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,680 Oh boy, we're in really similar, yeah? 356 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:39,100 Yeah, yeah, okay. 357 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:47,420 Okay, I'm a fan of Timber Management, big fan and foresters, big fan foresters, too. 358 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:48,760 I'm marking the trees. 359 00:22:50,820 --> 00:22:54,000 Well, there you go, take photographs, if you change it, you're going to need a permit. 360 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:56,320 If not, this is your goal. 361 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:59,740 I'll make sure that permits time before any deaths disturb any self-support or anything 362 00:22:59,740 --> 00:22:59,940 like that. 363 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:02,380 Yeah, I'll come up with my erosion patrol first. 364 00:23:02,820 --> 00:23:03,460 They gave you this? 365 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,100 Yeah. 366 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:04,140 Yeah. 367 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,500 And what was this at present? What was this permit to boom? 368 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,720 June 17th of this year. Yeah. Yeah. I've purchased the target. 369 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,340 We're going through some term while administratively. Maybe. So I think you fell through the 370 00:23:19,340 --> 00:23:23,980 trash line. I'm sorry. No. On the half of all those, I didn't get it right. 371 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,580 I apologize. It's, I mean, it's understandable when the stakes happen. I just, I, 372 00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:32,780 right. Not because for a while there, I was, I was sitting there, I was target on my back, 373 00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:35,640 and everybody was pointing at me like, I was at fault. And I think so. 374 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,220 I don't hear that. No, and I'm just going by what that's what we make it all right. It's 375 00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:45,880 supposed to make them right off. Yeah. Yeah. I had it posted on the property, but I took 376 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,600 it down because honestly, I was afraid it was going to go down there and rip it off the 377 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:57,280 tree so he could fight me and say, I don't have one. But yeah, I don't see it. No, sadly, no. 378 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:05,220 26 acres, that's exciting. Yeah. That's yeah. That's a big, that's a chunk. 379 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,140 It's a dream. 380 00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:09,200 And a 900-foot drive-by. 381 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,120 Probably. 382 00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:10,780 Wow. 383 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,620 It might be a 900-foot drive-by. 384 00:24:12,620 --> 00:24:13,140 So, here we go. 385 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:13,800 It's a nice thing. 386 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:15,260 It's a long way in. 387 00:24:15,460 --> 00:24:15,940 A plowing. 388 00:24:16,460 --> 00:24:17,280 A plowing to do it. 389 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:17,600 Yes. 390 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,120 A plowing to do it. 391 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:19,540 Yeah. 392 00:24:19,820 --> 00:24:21,040 We look forward to working with you, right? 393 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Yeah. 394 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,520 So, we also contract with Central 395 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,820 and the Hampshire Planning Commission. 396 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,720 And so, I'm sure that the administrative 397 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,240 puts you in touch with him if you have additional questions 398 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,820 I'm sure he'd be happy to help you. 399 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:38,460 No cost. 400 00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:40,980 And we also have a member on this board who is a member 401 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:44,660 of the Conservation Commission and the Biscaticala River 402 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:46,460 is their baby, so he'll probably 403 00:24:46,460 --> 00:24:48,540 have some more questions for you on that. 404 00:24:50,220 --> 00:24:50,960 He's a really nice guy. 405 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:51,960 I'm just going to make it tonight. 406 00:24:57,260 --> 00:24:58,280 Is that what you're talking about? 407 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,040 All right. 408 00:24:59,340 --> 00:24:59,740 Let's move on. 409 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,300 Thank you. 410 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:01,260 Yeah. 411 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,000 Have a great day. 412 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:02,940 Thank you. 413 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,100 Hey, next up on the agenda is the subdivision application 414 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:10,520 Donald J. Johnson and Dean Johnson Revolvable Trust. 415 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,120 $6.96 on the Hill Road, yeah, $2.16 a lot, $11. 416 00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:18,920 So the record should probably show that he's going to recuse himself at this point. 417 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:22,840 He's never been at the table. 418 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,120 Oh, he's in all today. 419 00:25:24,220 --> 00:25:24,800 He's in all today. 420 00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:28,200 He's fine. 421 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:31,120 Hey, Peter, how are you? 422 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:31,980 Right. 423 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:32,940 How are you? 424 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:33,900 Fantastic. 425 00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:34,660 You 426 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,800 got the plans out. 427 00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:40,420 Yep. 428 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,740 You got a chance to look at them. 429 00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:46,470 You've got little ones, two, three. 430 00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:11,700 So I 431 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,080 have one question, are you going to present something to you? 432 00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:19,040 Yeah, I have one question. 433 00:26:19,220 --> 00:26:19,460 Sure. 434 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:20,820 I'm looking at all the waivers. 435 00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:21,140 Yeah. 436 00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:29,360 The first one talks about the blow, the setback, the easement, the blow, you know. 437 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,640 And they will tend to probably, because it's a resisting blow. 438 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,660 And there's already something, it has to be some kind of understood 439 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:37,880 easement there by the town. 440 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:42,500 And is that the reason why you're asking for a waiver because it's pretty well stated? 441 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:53,020 Well, what you're asking for is a 25 foot easement from the center of the world. 442 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:59,500 In fact, you may end up with a pit before writing. 443 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:18,760 Okay, okay. So there was a survey and a subdivision done on the opposite side of it. And they came up with a right away line that I believe was, you know, maybe intended to be 25 feet off the settlement. 444 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:27,560 So I tied into that survey and held 50 feet off that, so the town in effect has a 50 foot 445 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:27,780 right. 446 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,940 So that's why I'm asking for a word on that, because it's a good answer, so that's 447 00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:37,120 open. 448 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:49,940 So basically where it's two lots of division, we're cutting a five acre lot off around the 449 00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:56,360 the existing house so that it can be sold with and the main land there are no plants for 450 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,540 development at this point so 451 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:15,480 sheet one is just kind of an overview shows the existing 452 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,200 house, the barn, the afternoon disposal area, the existing well, 453 00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:25,080 we're proposing a driveway 454 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:31,940 way easement right at the corner where the driveway enters from Plumber Hill Road, 455 00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:38,970 so that's shown to more detail on sheet 2. 456 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,620 And that's because the driveway kind of goes outside of the lot line? 457 00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:46,400 Yeah. 458 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:47,060 Yeah. 459 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:49,040 Where the existing driveway is now. 460 00:28:53,360 --> 00:29:00,800 I'm going to be given by the hunger of the deed of law of 26, 461 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,460 a law of 11 to the proposed law. 462 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:06,760 11.1, right? 463 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:08,080 20. 464 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:15,420 No, what will happen is when law of 11 proposed law is conveyed, 465 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,520 it will be conveyed together with the reason, 466 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:25,420 I'm going to be granted to the honor of log 26, 11-1. 467 00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:27,800 No, go the way around. 468 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:30,180 The easement is on log 11-1. 469 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,380 Oh, great. 470 00:29:31,540 --> 00:29:31,640 Sorry. 471 00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:36,250 You can see it. 472 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:37,270 Right here. 473 00:29:37,790 --> 00:29:38,410 Yeah, yeah. 474 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:39,390 I got it. 475 00:29:39,710 --> 00:29:39,910 Thanks. 476 00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:40,690 Now 477 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:49,660 11-1 is also a subject to a 20-foot right away 478 00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:57,610 along this western boundary which is currently 479 00:29:57,610 --> 00:29:58,990 is currently in existence. 480 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,580 And several people have rights over it, including the town. 481 00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:13,150 I 482 00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:36,830 don't 483 00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:43,820 think it's a use right now, it's kind of lying on the ground. 484 00:30:43,820 --> 00:30:45,240 It's more of a seasonal thing. 485 00:30:47,660 --> 00:30:51,780 And then, sheep three shows the remainder of the 2014 easement. 486 00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:35,370 No, it is a road. 487 00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:42,510 No, no, it's a, I would call it a wood road. 488 00:31:45,370 --> 00:31:48,150 I mean, it's, you can drive up there with a car. 489 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:49,210 Pretty good condition. 490 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,340 When it was put in, it was there. 491 00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:56,720 It's been there quite a while, 492 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,200 isn't it? 493 00:31:57,220 --> 00:31:58,500 And it was part of the original dam, 494 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,760 and then we, it was not existed. 495 00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:04,640 It's just on the way and we've cleared it to make it somewhat possible. 496 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:12,780 Is it ever used for logging or anything like that? 497 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,180 Yeah, it's been logged, I think it's logged. 498 00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:19,560 It probably does a lot on that thing. 499 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,400 It doesn't sound like any of that, it's changing. 500 00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:28,780 That's just, you just identify what's there, 501 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,340 and see if there's any to be there. 502 00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:33,060 And that's nothing's really changed. 503 00:32:33,340 --> 00:32:34,560 That's the type of area in the lot. 504 00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:35,380 The only area here, right? 505 00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:35,780 Yep, right. 506 00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:49,340 And so let's talk about that because that's where all of the waivers pretty much are going to be the waivers. 507 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,820 We're having one of us coming. I was going to take a little bit of one. 508 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,460 All right. 509 00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:59,050 And Peter can embellish. 510 00:32:59,050 --> 00:33:00,050 So, 511 00:33:04,550 --> 00:33:12,710 I think on 14.a, we have a comment from Central New Hampshire because the requirement 512 00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:21,790 is the two acres of contiguous dry land reviewed the Hillsborough County soil survey on 513 00:33:21,790 --> 00:33:30,710 the USDA website using a matching feature in a approximation of the two lots. The survey 514 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:33,970 They showed brave and two acres of sand as soon as presents for both plots. 515 00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:37,770 Yeah, but can also provide a photo interaction with the adjacent on the site. 516 00:33:37,910 --> 00:33:42,050 Lastly, would be noted that the smaller part of the acre lot is already built upon. 517 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:47,040 I can follow them up. 518 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,940 Yeah, I can follow them up. 519 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,700 Well, they were. 520 00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:53,620 Yeah, I know them. 521 00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:54,740 Yeah, we all. 522 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,300 So we've got the two acres. 523 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:00,420 We do. 524 00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:05,820 Yep, and then 14b the 25 would be sent from the center. 525 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:07,440 That's been answered. 526 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,680 That's been answered. 527 00:34:10,140 --> 00:34:14,520 14.c. if no easement includes the plan d to the town. 528 00:34:16,060 --> 00:34:17,020 Explain that one. 529 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,340 Yeah. 530 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,200 I'm kind of confused about that. 531 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:29,420 Well, I'm not sure what the town is looking for there. 532 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:37,340 I'm not sure what the town looks for, to be honest with you, but what the precedent is. 533 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:47,420 You know, I've seen a lot of plans and veering has had that 25-4 easement from the center of the road for many years. 534 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:57,320 And I guess when you approve a plan it becomes a dedicated easement in a sense. 535 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:07,500 because it's shown on the plan and it's noted now it's a time to do it yeah yeah bit by bit yeah 536 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:16,540 but there are no deeds it should be a quit claim not quit claim but that's just a pipe 537 00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:46,520 I don't know, I mean, I think it ties in with the waiver on C, because if you don't need 538 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:53,000 We're showing a street line in there that provides a town with a 54 right away, which is what you want. 539 00:35:55,990 --> 00:36:04,310 You know, I'm not that knowledgeable. I understand the idea of what was the benefit of the town having it in the easement. 540 00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:10,570 They could, they could put a culvert there and discharge road drainage to that area. 541 00:36:10,570 --> 00:36:10,690 Yeah. 542 00:36:10,910 --> 00:36:14,310 If you're sure I mean, could be clearing up a side of the road, could be. 543 00:36:14,590 --> 00:36:16,110 But there's a number of things. 544 00:36:16,330 --> 00:36:25,210 But Peter is saying that the survey shows that line, our way to delineated, has to be 545 00:36:25,210 --> 00:36:27,970 because it's always the 15th, 12th, and 12th. 546 00:36:27,970 --> 00:36:30,310 So, most of it. 547 00:36:30,890 --> 00:36:31,950 That's good enough. 548 00:36:32,990 --> 00:36:34,670 That's your saying, Mr. Malik, right? 549 00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:35,550 Yeah. 550 00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:35,950 Yeah. 551 00:36:35,950 --> 00:36:44,340 I don't know, but further to the west, there are stolen walls on Plenty Hill Road. 552 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:45,780 Which is a problem. 553 00:36:46,460 --> 00:36:46,460 Yeah, 554 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,800 because the typography of that. 555 00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:54,320 Right. 556 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,340 It was very sandy. 557 00:36:55,740 --> 00:36:57,020 And I didn't have a lot of rock to work in. 558 00:36:57,020 --> 00:36:57,680 It also goes up. 559 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,120 Yeah. 560 00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:00,300 So, 561 00:37:03,220 --> 00:37:06,200 I mean, I think the reason for the way it varies, you've got your 54 right away. 562 00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:11,040 I'm not even at, just if you're looking for a consensus. 563 00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:12,380 Anybody help? 564 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,880 We all feel good about that? 565 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:14,600 Yep. 566 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:24,400 Okay, but I think checklist item number 15, we already address, checklist item 16, steep slopes over 25 percent. 567 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:30,360 I don't think that really applies here because of the existing property. 568 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:34,600 Yeah. 569 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,140 The structure is on there. 570 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,040 Location of special features, 571 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:44,290 topography, 572 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,420 small survey, catch basins and other subsurface drainage features. 573 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,420 test per locations and results. 574 00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:58,380 It's all existing, right? 575 00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:00,620 There's no development being proposed. 576 00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:01,040 Correct. 577 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:01,580 Yep. 578 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:04,820 A lot of this is of no consequence. 579 00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:07,640 4,000 fallen just reading them off for the record. 580 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:07,920 Right. 581 00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:09,100 And getting a consensus. 582 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,240 We can all read them again. 583 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,380 4,000 square foot septic areas. 584 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,020 Preliminary design of bridges and culverts. 585 00:38:18,980 --> 00:38:20,640 And then existing structures 586 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,700 structures within two and a hundred feet. 587 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,760 There's only one which is feet, so I 588 00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:32,370 don't think he's 589 00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:33,150 a guest. 590 00:38:34,530 --> 00:38:36,910 Oh, you get a consensus for this guy. 591 00:38:38,330 --> 00:38:38,890 Okay, 592 00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:51,710 so I think, at this point, we can... 593 00:38:52,270 --> 00:38:53,030 How much is it? 594 00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:56,170 Well, we have to... 595 00:38:56,170 --> 00:38:58,450 So right here, we have to do all these... 596 00:38:58,450 --> 00:38:59,530 I know, to make it there. 597 00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:03,430 So now we're going to make a determination of the regional impact. 598 00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:10,870 In accordance with RSA 3656, the board shall determine the proposal and development of regional impact. 599 00:39:11,590 --> 00:39:15,950 A local land use board as defines RSA 672.7. 600 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:21,490 I'm receiving that patient development shall review it properly and determine whether or not development 601 00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:25,970 if approved reasonably should be construed as having the potential for regional impact. 602 00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:31,120 I move that this proposal has no reach on it. 603 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,600 Do I hear a second? 604 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:33,440 Second. 605 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,960 All in favor? 606 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:35,580 All right. 607 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:36,680 Opposed? 608 00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:37,860 Yes. 609 00:39:37,860 --> 00:39:38,320 Now I sound it. 610 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,760 Thank you. 611 00:39:39,340 --> 00:39:39,500 Okay. 612 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,360 So at this time, we have the ability to act on waivers. 613 00:39:47,330 --> 00:39:49,150 Shall I hear a motion on the waivers? 614 00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:54,810 I move that all the waivers be granted as previously discussed. 615 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:55,470 Second. 616 00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:56,730 All in favor? 617 00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:57,390 All right. 618 00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:58,390 Opposed? 619 00:39:59,070 --> 00:39:59,250 Okay. 620 00:39:59,630 --> 00:40:00,250 You guys have it. 621 00:40:00,950 --> 00:40:09,870 So, we have acted on the waivers, so now we shall determine if the application is complete. 622 00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:16,500 So, I hear a second. 623 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,680 I'll second that. 624 00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:19,360 All in favor? 625 00:40:20,060 --> 00:40:20,340 Hi. 626 00:40:20,980 --> 00:40:21,440 Opposed? 627 00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:23,520 Yes, I have it. 628 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,060 The application is now complete. 629 00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:33,520 With that, I can open a public hearing for the plan at 7.12pm. 630 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:38,520 Well, the public meeting hearing is open. 631 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,800 No, I don't have anything to add. 632 00:40:41,140 --> 00:40:43,920 My interest is in five acre log. 633 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,940 We recently moved here and I don't plan on buying that at our home. 634 00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:53,400 So we're just obviously interested in how it's going to work. 635 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,860 But other than that, I don't have anything to add. 636 00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:55,780 Okay. 637 00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:59,200 All right, hearing no other. 638 00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:03,600 I am closing the public hearing at 713. 639 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:10,100 All right, at this time, we can delivery and vote on the application. 640 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,060 Well, I'd like to move the application and then get the... 641 00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:20,920 I think we should also move the application. 642 00:41:21,460 --> 00:41:21,520 Exactly. 643 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,360 Yeah. 644 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,760 In the, you can just read them. 645 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:25,300 Perfect. 646 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,980 How conditions of approval for the application, Madam Chair, 647 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,240 would be to record the easement for the driveway 648 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,680 for the Hillsborough County Registry of D's with the plan set. 649 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,060 Record the dates for the new lots 650 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:41,660 in the Hillsboro County Registry of Ds with the plan set. 651 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,900 Professional stamps and signatures as well as the other signatures need to be on the final 652 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:54,220 plan and any conditions of approval need to be on the final plan and any conditions sought 653 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:54,860 by the board. 654 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,340 Do we have, I think also waivers have to be, should be on the plan. 655 00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:00,040 I saw that. 656 00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:02,520 I thought that we would have them on the board. 657 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,160 Any conditions of approval and waivers plan that should be listed on the final plan to 658 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,600 be signed. 659 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,980 So the list of the letters, those are his comments. 660 00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:16,980 Yeah, we can give you a copy of this. 661 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000 I love a copy. 662 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,280 You can just have a couple of questions on it. 663 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,620 Okay. 664 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,160 There you go. 665 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,000 And it would be right on. 666 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:29,680 Yeah. 667 00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:39,120 Yeah, 668 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,920 I think you're all set. 669 00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:45,280 Yeah, so this is what. 670 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:53,120 So what are one of the these it's right here are the potential we just read right here, right every every 671 00:42:56,420 --> 00:42:57,060 So 672 00:43:08,060 --> 00:43:09,680 conditions of one and two 673 00:43:17,890 --> 00:43:22,130 The driveway easement is created with your approval 674 00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:31,970 Just as the lots are created when you approve the plant 675 00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:37,490 You're creating this for these too long 676 00:43:38,090 --> 00:43:40,290 So once the plant is recorded 677 00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:54,310 So that is looking for record the easement for the driveway at the registry of deeds with the plan set and record the deeds for the new lots with the plan set 678 00:43:54,310 --> 00:44:00,130 If neither of these lots will not be sold there's no need for deeds 679 00:44:01,210 --> 00:44:01,730 Okay. 680 00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:07,090 But this lot is going to be so much bigger than the need for a deed on this lot. 681 00:44:07,090 --> 00:44:07,230 Right. 682 00:44:07,810 --> 00:44:13,570 But you don't necessarily want to hold up the recording of the plan until the deed 683 00:44:13,570 --> 00:44:15,030 is drafted and signed. 684 00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:17,230 You want the plan on, right? 685 00:44:17,810 --> 00:44:20,630 And then the deed is drawn in the subdivision plan. 686 00:44:20,910 --> 00:44:21,650 This plan. 687 00:44:21,870 --> 00:44:22,310 It ends. 688 00:44:22,510 --> 00:44:22,730 You know. 689 00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:26,690 It drew all the deeds and recorded everything it wants. 690 00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:35,500 The plan gets recorded when the law of 11 is sold, the description includes the easement. 691 00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:43,960 So the plan has to make clear that there is going to be an easement and then if I were the property owner purchasing the five-acre lot, 692 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,500 I'd want a conveyance of an easement as well. 693 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,560 It's indeed when they buy the property. 694 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,580 I'm saying, go round and convert, as a easement, as well, a winery of relying on the planned 695 00:44:55,580 --> 00:44:56,760 files of the Ghostbusters. 696 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,360 No, no. Okay. Plan. So, in my opinion, the conditions as far as recording the easement and recording the deeds, in effect there's going to be one deed, which is for a lot of luck, but it won't be until everything. But the easement is shown on the record. Right. It's shown on the plan. Yes, but he's asking for, record the easement with the plan set. He wants an easement deed. 697 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,120 but we're not doing so I know need for anything. 698 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,700 It's going to be in the deed. 699 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,180 Does it cost more money? 700 00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:36,780 Is it more expensive? 701 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,900 Is it going to be convective? 702 00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:39,360 So you're just... 703 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,520 You don't want to do that. 704 00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:44,380 But what he's saying is, is there's going to be a time, right? 705 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:44,800 Yeah. 706 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,500 He wants this done so that they can go through a process 707 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,660 of purchasing the property, then the deed gets recorded. 708 00:45:51,940 --> 00:45:52,200 So it's... 709 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,960 The easement is in the deed before a lot of lessons. 710 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,020 So you can't do it all at the same time. 711 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,740 There's probably not going to be a D for 11-1. 712 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,600 Yeah, they can't purchase this property until this is reported. 713 00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:05,640 He's got an excellent plan. 714 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,260 OK. 715 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,360 I mean, you want the plan on records so they can refer to the plan. 716 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,440 Do we all feel comfortable that you have to wrap the plan? 717 00:46:13,620 --> 00:46:14,320 I understand that. 718 00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:15,600 That's interesting question. 719 00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:16,560 That's it. 720 00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:22,500 Since the order is looking like 11-1 and 11-1A are the same orders. 721 00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:28,660 at the time of the approvals. There is no need for a separate deed. A lot of money just 722 00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:34,320 basically divides the ownership of the lots on the town property. The ownership remains 723 00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:41,760 the same on the town's records must be changes. At the point that you convey the five-acre 724 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:50,180 lot, however, there is going to be a conveyance from the owners of the current five-acre lot, 725 00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:55,960 Yes. Mm-hmm. Okay. And that will create a new deed for the owners of the five-figure law. Correct. 726 00:46:58,330 --> 00:47:07,890 What record- what deed record remains for the now subdivided 11 point cash? One block. That's what comes to mind. 727 00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:17,550 There is no- there is no deed until that property is conveyed. Okay. Because the ownership is going to remain the same. 728 00:47:20,330 --> 00:47:29,290 The title reference would be the present D, correct, subject to this subdivision and the 729 00:47:29,290 --> 00:47:31,030 out-sale of Watt-Elep. 730 00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:40,110 So when the subdivision is recorded and somebody does a title search, I'm way above my 731 00:47:40,110 --> 00:47:41,110 level. 732 00:47:41,110 --> 00:47:49,310 But somebody does a title search, and they do a title search of the property labeled 11-1. 733 00:47:51,380 --> 00:47:58,660 The title records reveal the subdivision that then created 11-1. 734 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,240 Correct. 735 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:10,560 And that record would then result in the development of a deed reflecting the subdivision approval. 736 00:48:11,780 --> 00:48:23,380 Yeah, if in some future time, the Johnson's conveyor eleven dashes, then the deed would be drawn from this plan, just as the deed for a lot of eleven will be drawn to this plan. 737 00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:26,920 But until it is conveyed, there's no new deed. 738 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:38,520 And how does it out of the town's records updated with respect to the acreage and ownership of eleven dashes, one for purposes of assessment? 739 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:43,520 and how does that occur? 740 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:51,460 What you typically require is just four paper copies of the plans. 741 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,140 And one of those is delivered to the tax mappers 742 00:48:56,140 --> 00:49:02,400 and the tax map has to be updated by April 1st of every year. 743 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,200 So once this plan is approved 744 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,600 you will have paper copies. The intent is that it gets forward to the tax 745 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:20,240 mapper toward the end of the year, and then the tax map is up there. So that's 746 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:26,960 the way it's supposed to work. And even if it's not a subdivision, before I can 747 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:33,180 record a survey of the property, I have to provide the planning board with a copy. 748 00:49:35,020 --> 00:49:39,120 Any boundary survey I do, I can provide the planning board with a copy before I record 749 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:39,740 the my law. 750 00:49:40,180 --> 00:49:43,400 The intent of that is that the planning board is supposed to give it to the tax mappers 751 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:46,640 and they use it to update tax based on the survey. 752 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:49,040 Okay, sometimes it happens, sometimes it happens. 753 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,680 So I have a question, so I want to protect the purchaser of them by making a law, to make 754 00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,720 sure that that easement that they have of that driveway is never going to be taken away 755 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:01,240 from you. 756 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,040 Well, that will be in the deed, 757 00:50:05,290 --> 00:50:08,310 well, the deed will describe it as a permanent means of the new deed. 758 00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:08,830 Yes. 759 00:50:12,090 --> 00:50:18,130 It's interesting that the deed for the smaller lot is going to talk about something that's not on their property. 760 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:20,630 That's quite easy. 761 00:50:21,730 --> 00:50:22,130 Okay. 762 00:50:22,930 --> 00:50:23,830 Is that how they work? 763 00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:24,490 That's how they work. 764 00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:26,630 You can't have an easement on your own property. 765 00:50:29,890 --> 00:50:32,790 So the larger property is burdened with these. 766 00:50:33,110 --> 00:50:33,830 Well, how can I help you? 767 00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:35,230 I mean, the light has to be. 768 00:50:35,290 --> 00:50:35,730 But it is. 769 00:50:35,830 --> 00:50:37,170 I don't want to go off the rails here. 770 00:50:37,250 --> 00:50:37,610 But it is. 771 00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:38,310 Go ahead. 772 00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:41,790 You have to look at the key. 773 00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:42,350 You're real too. 774 00:50:44,610 --> 00:50:46,630 Well, then what's the... 775 00:50:47,170 --> 00:50:48,950 You could wrap it up with this answer this question. 776 00:50:49,090 --> 00:50:53,570 So what stops anybody from putting in their deed outrageous assumptions 777 00:50:53,570 --> 00:50:56,610 of neighboring property that they have access to. 778 00:50:57,650 --> 00:51:00,150 Well, no, that means the Eastman will be a new Eastman. 779 00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:01,770 The Westman will be a new Eastman. 780 00:51:02,310 --> 00:51:03,610 They'll be right in the East. 781 00:51:03,610 --> 00:51:04,170 We'll be doing that. 782 00:51:04,330 --> 00:51:06,270 We'll talk about the deans for the five-acre law. 783 00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:06,750 I understand. 784 00:51:06,990 --> 00:51:10,050 And in that deity, we'll have referenced the Eastman, correct? 785 00:51:11,150 --> 00:51:13,210 For something that's not on their property. 786 00:51:13,450 --> 00:51:13,630 Correct. 787 00:51:14,050 --> 00:51:15,930 So when the five-acre law gets conveyed, 788 00:51:16,450 --> 00:51:18,370 among those statements in the five-acre law, 789 00:51:18,490 --> 00:51:21,790 which will be coming from the owners of the larger law, 790 00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:27,350 It'll be a conveyance of the five-acre lot and a conveyance of an easement that's 791 00:51:27,350 --> 00:51:33,950 a burden on the eleminator life, getting the rights of passage based on what physical evidence. 792 00:51:34,650 --> 00:51:40,150 Based on the plan that we approved, that's where it all boils down to. 793 00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:47,510 But even if the plan didn't have an easement on it and they chose to convey one, they can 794 00:51:54,050 --> 00:51:56,610 So there's communication between the two problems. 795 00:51:56,670 --> 00:51:58,530 That occurs in a new iteration of the sale. 796 00:51:58,950 --> 00:52:00,970 Or, yeah, the version of the transaction. 797 00:52:01,610 --> 00:52:02,490 Yeah, we may sell it. 798 00:52:03,070 --> 00:52:04,930 Yeah, they better have an agreement. 799 00:52:05,550 --> 00:52:07,490 An agreement is represented in the Dees, 800 00:52:07,590 --> 00:52:09,370 which is the sale that you want to put conditions, 801 00:52:09,830 --> 00:52:11,270 which include an easement, 802 00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:12,610 easement within Dees, 803 00:52:12,730 --> 00:52:14,770 to an end of Dees as part of the convention. 804 00:52:15,010 --> 00:52:17,330 You can tell that I buy and sell vast quantities. 805 00:52:17,490 --> 00:52:27,310 proper. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Would you like to re-broad your motion or so? 806 00:52:28,050 --> 00:52:36,630 So this, I'm thinking of this, just the proposed one from the original date. Yes. And that's 807 00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:42,490 not for this portion, right? It's for somewhere else or. Oh, it's for that. So this actually 808 00:52:42,490 --> 00:52:44,810 We described exactly what we're doing here. 809 00:52:45,110 --> 00:52:47,410 So it's already in the existing team. 810 00:52:47,710 --> 00:52:49,210 That's something that you pro-compire. 811 00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:52,050 Is the description of all proposed user eyes are just 812 00:52:52,050 --> 00:52:52,950 coming out, is the description. 813 00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:53,570 Yeah. 814 00:52:53,850 --> 00:52:55,190 It's not in the team also. 815 00:52:55,530 --> 00:52:57,670 OK, so we do have a proposed description. 816 00:52:57,870 --> 00:52:58,170 We have something. 817 00:52:58,610 --> 00:52:59,590 I'm going to say it. 818 00:52:59,590 --> 00:53:00,530 We're going to put it back on here. 819 00:53:01,610 --> 00:53:03,910 And so for these people, why don't we just say it? 820 00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:06,450 If you go to sheet 2, it's a little bit bigger. 821 00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:06,950 So yeah. 822 00:53:07,470 --> 00:53:07,570 Yeah. 823 00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:08,170 It's going to be that. 824 00:53:08,410 --> 00:53:08,490 Yeah. 825 00:53:08,830 --> 00:53:09,070 OK. 826 00:53:09,070 --> 00:53:20,660 And then, so by doing this, we're not rejecting the property that's going to be sold by Baker 1, they're protected, right? 827 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:31,660 There is some sort of access, we're not, we're not, um, straining them, even making them have to do another, this is going to be a feature, or a feature load thing, is that? 828 00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:41,560 What happens is that once the plan is approved and recorded, then somebody will be handling 829 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,140 the closing, and typically the seller prepares the deed. 830 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,140 So the whoever's preparing the deed will get a copy of the plan and the registry of deeds 831 00:53:50,660 --> 00:53:52,460 and then they will draft the deed. 832 00:53:53,420 --> 00:53:57,380 And hopefully somebody will be sharper enough to see there's an easy one. 833 00:53:57,380 --> 00:54:02,300 So, but ordinarily when property is installed, the requirement of 834 00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:04,840 easement is not part of what approval of a flat. 835 00:54:05,020 --> 00:54:07,860 It's up to the property on this, the sales and the 836 00:54:07,860 --> 00:54:10,620 negotiations that do whatever they want to do, they want to 837 00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:11,940 meet the county ordinances. 838 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,180 Well, the reason for us this is important is, we're creating a 839 00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:17,640 lot at the nested easement, it's just that we've had 12 840 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,360 way of doing this. 841 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,020 So, from our point of view, from the town's point of view, we need 842 00:54:23,020 --> 00:54:26,800 to insist upon the presence of this easement in order to have 843 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,500 going to improve a bold subdivision. 844 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,200 Because we otherwise be creating a lot, 845 00:54:31,460 --> 00:54:32,840 the five-week a lot, and so try where. 846 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:35,500 That's why, from my point of view, 847 00:54:35,620 --> 00:54:37,460 that reason has to show on the plan we have to improve it. 848 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:39,920 Otherwise, if there were already a dragway there, 849 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,660 if they wanted to create any other reasons 850 00:54:41,660 --> 00:54:44,180 they wanted to create as between them, 851 00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:46,980 give access to the wood road, do whatever they want to do, 852 00:54:47,220 --> 00:54:48,520 that's up to them in the manifestations. 853 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,520 I think you do with others, right? 854 00:54:51,020 --> 00:54:51,980 So that's how this thing happens. 855 00:54:52,340 --> 00:54:54,020 And reason why Matt's point is it, 856 00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:56,300 at a point where the reason is to show on the plane 857 00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:57,180 the notion of law. 858 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:07,300 So having it be a condition that he's going to be on the plan is important to us and I agree with that as a condition. 859 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:16,640 Yeah, that's not the condition he's looking for. He was up above and beyond that. He wanted a deed written up and I'm not going to revise my emotion. 860 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,180 Is this a good time to monitor? Yes, please. 861 00:55:20,180 --> 00:55:20,620 Okay 862 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:28,320 Are you all set? Yeah, I was just trying to understand what Matt is coming from. Okay. So I did have another question. Sure 863 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,620 Is it in your sub-regional regulations that the owner signs the point? 864 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:46,300 No, I think it's a plan work chair. No, we sign here. I don't recall seeing the old specific. I mean sometimes you're quiet 865 00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:50,120 Okay, but I know don't recall doing that. Matt works for a lot of towns 866 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:57,000 Yes, so I think that sometimes we get, you know, number three, he says stamps and signatures as well as 867 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,020 owner signatures need to be on the final point. Yeah, I don't think you require that. We can scratch that too. 868 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,220 We don't require that. 869 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,380 Thank you, Matt. 870 00:56:04,580 --> 00:56:09,240 Thank you, Peter. 871 00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:14,800 I mean, I did make an effort to have all the requested waivers on the phone. 872 00:56:17,460 --> 00:56:18,760 Thank you for that. 873 00:56:19,660 --> 00:56:21,020 We'll always learn something. 874 00:56:24,610 --> 00:56:30,810 Any more questions? No. Okay. No, I'm going to go now. 875 00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:36,230 I'd like 876 00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:43,810 to make a motion to prove the subdivision with the conditions such as record the easement 877 00:56:43,810 --> 00:56:48,750 for the dry and wetting at the Hillsboro County Registry of Deeds with the plan set that 878 00:56:48,750 --> 00:56:52,870 professional stamps and signatures appropriate need to be in the final 879 00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:57,790 plan. Is that good enough? But you would not do it easily. Yeah, the first. The first 880 00:56:57,790 --> 00:57:02,050 way you go. We're not doing one and two. We're not doing both one and two? Yeah. Correct. 881 00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:07,190 Because that's requiring the deed. Yeah. Let's start over. 882 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:12,700 I make a motion. I mean, 883 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,660 really, you don't need any of these conditions because you haven't had it in 884 00:57:17,660 --> 00:57:20,520 additional conditions to your approval, correct? 885 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,260 Yeah, but I'm going to do it anyway here, OK? 886 00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:27,210 Because I've started it. 887 00:57:27,330 --> 00:57:27,490 OK. 888 00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:29,490 And I'm already checking it red. 889 00:57:29,830 --> 00:57:31,870 So that's like, is it hot in here? 890 00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:32,630 Yeah, it's it right. 891 00:57:33,170 --> 00:57:34,430 And it is hot in here, maybe one. 892 00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:35,390 It's very hot in here. 893 00:57:35,390 --> 00:57:36,810 I never said that there's a Z-E-1. 894 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:39,230 Yeah, this is like, OK, I make a motion 895 00:57:39,230 --> 00:57:41,970 to approve this subdivision with professional stamps 896 00:57:41,970 --> 00:57:44,950 and the signature of the chair on the final plan. 897 00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:47,990 Any conditions of approval need to be on the final plan, 898 00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:54,410 which they are and the waivers, the waivers, are on the new plan. 899 00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:55,350 They're just there. 900 00:57:57,050 --> 00:57:57,850 No order permission. 901 00:57:59,870 --> 00:58:00,450 I remember anything. 902 00:58:00,990 --> 00:58:02,110 And the motion. 903 00:58:02,850 --> 00:58:03,570 And the motion. 904 00:58:03,810 --> 00:58:04,430 I'll check them out. 905 00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:05,830 All in favor? 906 00:58:06,170 --> 00:58:06,450 All right. 907 00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:07,430 Opposed? 908 00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:08,490 Great. 909 00:58:08,590 --> 00:58:09,190 The eyes have it. 910 00:58:09,330 --> 00:58:09,830 You are through. 911 00:58:10,090 --> 00:58:10,970 Thank you so much. 912 00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:11,570 Wow. 913 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:12,870 That's a great surprise. 914 00:58:13,450 --> 00:58:14,370 It is one of you. 915 00:58:14,650 --> 00:58:15,630 You just wish you were here. 916 00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:16,610 I didn't even bring a lot. 917 00:58:17,110 --> 00:58:17,410 I did. 918 00:58:17,410 --> 00:58:22,810 I think that would have something to do with what you love about it, but you can't charge it for me then. 919 00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:27,230 So you sure that would have enough coffee? 920 00:58:27,850 --> 00:58:28,050 Yes. 921 00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:28,750 Right? 922 00:58:29,110 --> 00:58:29,230 Yes. 923 00:58:29,230 --> 00:58:29,870 You know, it's a good one. 924 00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:31,970 You have 11, or 10? 925 00:58:32,450 --> 00:58:33,370 I think yeah, 10. 926 00:58:33,410 --> 00:58:34,270 Sure, you know what I mean? 927 00:58:34,270 --> 00:58:35,130 I mean, 10 coffee. 928 00:58:35,330 --> 00:58:35,750 I don't know. 929 00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:36,830 You don't even look at it. 930 00:58:37,410 --> 00:58:38,850 You might want to revise that. 931 00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:39,370 Yeah. 932 00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:41,330 10 coffee is a lot of things. 933 00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:41,890 Yeah. 934 00:58:43,110 --> 00:58:44,010 We'll look at that. 935 00:58:44,770 --> 00:58:45,070 Thank you. 936 00:58:46,310 --> 00:58:52,490 I mean, he's paying, so he's like, yeah, positionally we can use the little ones because 937 00:58:52,490 --> 00:58:57,270 what our table is in there enough for everyone, so I'll leave you four of these, if I don't 938 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:58,890 pick, there are any invasions. 939 00:58:59,010 --> 00:58:59,930 Can you leave me five? 940 00:59:00,850 --> 00:59:01,250 Just in case? 941 00:59:01,250 --> 00:59:01,350 Yeah, 942 00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,640 just in case. 943 00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:08,820 Just in case. 944 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,460 I mean, I go into you with the ones that we bring back, so I'll see you in the next one. 945 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:15,620 How many of you? 946 00:59:18,030 --> 00:59:19,070 You've got four there. 947 00:59:22,090 --> 00:59:23,350 Okay, I'll pick five. 948 00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:27,270 Is there a rebate on the mask? 949 00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:30,430 No, he's got a paint form. 950 00:59:30,990 --> 00:59:33,670 But now he can paint these and use them. 951 00:59:33,890 --> 00:59:34,890 He's going to paper it back on. 952 00:59:36,170 --> 00:59:37,710 No, the attorney's going to need one. 953 00:59:37,810 --> 00:59:39,010 Yeah, they're going to need one. 954 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:40,310 Peek the whole one. 955 00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:44,210 And put it in the floorboards. 956 00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:53,530 Alright, so I will get you a mile mark. 957 00:59:53,970 --> 00:59:55,050 Thank you very much. 958 00:59:55,170 --> 00:59:55,370 Yeah. 959 01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:04,900 Just send it to the town. They'll learn me that it's here. 960 01:00:08,060 --> 01:00:23,050 I might say that piece of property that you're considering has wonderful numbers to be spent on it. Many, many times in my life, seeing all kinds of movies in that barn. 961 01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:25,390 So, no kinds of eligible time. 962 01:00:26,370 --> 01:00:28,130 And I have to see some of this that property, 963 01:00:28,430 --> 01:00:29,550 or do your, your, your, 964 01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:32,830 residents of Deering for a long, long time. 965 01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:36,190 So, taking a property that comes with a lot of good call, 966 01:00:36,310 --> 01:00:36,550 really. 967 01:00:37,310 --> 01:00:38,690 And we know that you're connected, too. 968 01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:39,630 So, yeah. 969 01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:40,970 Yeah, very exciting. 970 01:00:41,310 --> 01:00:41,430 Yeah. 971 01:00:42,990 --> 01:00:45,330 Well, I don't know how to, can we do movies? 972 01:00:45,550 --> 01:00:45,830 Stop here? 973 01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:47,250 You have to project it, right? 974 01:00:47,890 --> 01:00:48,510 We'll do some movies. 975 01:00:48,910 --> 01:00:49,030 Yeah, 976 01:00:51,590 --> 01:00:51,690 I'm sorry. 977 01:00:51,850 --> 01:00:54,290 We'll get the quick-to-pine drum things, 978 01:00:54,290 --> 01:00:55,430 or whatever it is out of there. 979 01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:56,750 Thanks for the round of applause. 980 01:00:58,850 --> 01:01:02,090 Thank you very much. 981 01:01:02,910 --> 01:01:03,930 Thank you very much. 982 01:01:04,490 --> 01:01:04,870 Have 983 01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:08,560 a great night. 984 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,060 Thank you. 985 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,360 Have a great night. 986 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,420 See you on the blackouts. 987 01:01:11,780 --> 01:01:12,900 Thank you very much. 988 01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:16,060 OK. 989 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:21,960 Next on the agenda, Miss Alain, Miss Business, did you grab the proposal on hearing what 990 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,220 happened? 991 01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:32,320 So I had a quick question. 992 01:01:34,580 --> 01:01:36,060 Encouraged to meet with the planner. 993 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:48,860 That could be Matt, it could be anybody that we assign, could be you, could be a couple 994 01:01:48,860 --> 01:01:49,120 of you. 995 01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:52,280 It couldn't be me, I can't speak for the board. 996 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:53,200 You don't have to. 997 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,560 So, I'm just a last speaker, if there's draught together, it's just important. 998 01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,620 Matt and I are different. 999 01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:00,320 Yeah. 1000 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,580 We just need to figure this out together over the course of five or six meetings. 1001 01:02:05,140 --> 01:02:06,700 I have some questions about it there. 1002 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,000 And those are math words, I think. 1003 01:02:13,460 --> 01:02:15,840 So who is considered the plan? 1004 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,960 Maybe the bill, the inspector. 1005 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:29,740 I would say I think he's probably thinking about someone who is knowledgeable about planning 1006 01:02:29,740 --> 01:02:30,440 board stuff. 1007 01:02:31,340 --> 01:02:37,440 You know, I think the enemy could be, I mean, nothing speaks for the board. 1008 01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:46,180 Right, but you're also, we're all volunteers and we really shouldn't be speaking to people. 1009 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,800 Right. You just don't do that. 1010 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,800 Well, the chair could do that. The chair can absolutely speak to applicants. 1011 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,920 Yes? With all questions to help them with the process. Is part of the chair's chair? 1012 01:02:59,820 --> 01:03:09,740 I know that, but I cannot do it, because we have lost many chairs who get inundated with 1013 01:03:09,740 --> 01:03:16,220 a lot of questions that should be handled by the town administrator or the buildings back there. 1014 01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:20,300 I'll go on record saying town made a big mistake when they cut a bit of the planning and 1015 01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:20,940 zoning. 1016 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:22,920 Oh, I know. 1017 01:03:23,060 --> 01:03:25,060 It's been 15 years now and it's still over there. 1018 01:03:25,060 --> 01:03:26,260 It has to be a disaster if it's anything. 1019 01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:28,960 It comes through there all into that. 1020 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:29,560 Yeah. 1021 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,060 So we're going to circle that to plan? 1022 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:32,600 Yeah. 1023 01:03:33,140 --> 01:03:33,360 I would. 1024 01:03:33,580 --> 01:03:35,180 I think that's the reference map. 1025 01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:41,660 At least, you know, because by saying a mathematical board, that covers us, along others. 1026 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:42,260 It could. 1027 01:03:42,460 --> 01:03:44,380 What about me with a town planner? 1028 01:03:47,260 --> 01:03:47,780 There's there. 1029 01:03:50,920 --> 01:04:00,880 I mean my question would be if I was deciding to adjust my lot lines and I was given 1030 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:09,560 this document, my question would be, okay well I'm encouraged to meet with the planner 1031 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,980 and what are the applicable boards? 1032 01:04:11,980 --> 01:04:17,920 The process is, is that you fill out the paperwork and you come before the board and get it reviewed. 1033 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,260 Yeah. So, that's good enough for my question. 1034 01:04:21,460 --> 01:04:22,660 So, a preparation for that. 1035 01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:25,140 I'm just an individual. 1036 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,000 Yeah, but even a conceptual would come before the board. 1037 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:28,380 Right. 1038 01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:32,980 You wouldn't speak to somebody individually and be the endistory. 1039 01:04:33,140 --> 01:04:35,740 You'd also talk to a central and a half year regional. 1040 01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:38,500 Well, so, that's it. 1041 01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:39,080 So 1042 01:04:43,620 --> 01:04:56,000 it's not actually a free service, and part of all these applications is that $500 that's put towards if they utilize that service, they get back billed for that out of that amount. 1043 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:57,940 Right, and at risk 1044 01:05:01,590 --> 01:05:14,210 of offering up central and international planning, what has happened in the past is people have used that well ahead of the application, not part for free, and by the time they're actually in with the application, it's a reduced amount. 1045 01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:15,490 We did it earlier with that. 1046 01:05:15,970 --> 01:05:31,330 You said the public did exactly as far as it goes, but it doesn't capture the fact that there's a lot of situations in the past as we've gone through process and we put a consideration of something else in one meeting to a following meeting. 1047 01:05:31,330 --> 01:05:35,770 And there have been conversations between the applicant and Matt. 1048 01:05:36,310 --> 01:05:37,370 There have been clarifications. 1049 01:05:37,390 --> 01:05:40,370 There have been additional things explained. 1050 01:05:40,670 --> 01:05:43,210 And it's just, I don't know whether we build or not build. 1051 01:05:43,530 --> 01:05:44,490 The applicant or not. 1052 01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:46,750 But the expect Matt to do that. 1053 01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:49,470 That's part of what makes the process work. 1054 01:05:49,690 --> 01:05:58,590 So when you say, just to be clear about it, when you say we shouldn't allow applicants to be able to speak to central elementary blank, it makes me uneasy. 1055 01:05:58,590 --> 01:06:04,930 If the board, if they're engaged with the board, the planning board at that point, and the 1056 01:06:04,930 --> 01:06:08,050 planning board decides, hey, talk to Matt about that. 1057 01:06:08,170 --> 01:06:13,870 That's a planning board decision, and that money comes out of the planning board's budget. 1058 01:06:14,370 --> 01:06:19,150 But what we're looking at at this point is, this is well before it gets even to that point. 1059 01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:24,650 So starting to give out a free resource when the planning board is maybe engaged. 1060 01:06:28,130 --> 01:06:32,390 I mean, this should be a relatively simple procedure, right? 1061 01:06:32,550 --> 01:06:40,590 I mean, anybody who could kind of read it would really need to talk to somebody about it. 1062 01:06:40,810 --> 01:06:45,330 Why don't we say that the applicant is encouraged to meet with the planning board during formulation of the plan? 1063 01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:47,270 It's our concept. 1064 01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:55,210 I like that. I like that better because that's insurable. A planner is not insurable. 1065 01:06:57,030 --> 01:06:59,150 And it's consistent with everything else we did. 1066 01:06:59,950 --> 01:07:05,630 And the chance of having a planner in the future is pretty slim. 1067 01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:08,910 I think that refers to the map. I thought I did too. 1068 01:07:09,350 --> 01:07:12,510 But it should say that or we should have it like this. Right. 1069 01:07:20,550 --> 01:07:27,730 But I think also, I didn't know I said because this needs to go to the town administrator, right? 1070 01:07:31,410 --> 01:07:34,450 What do you say to this? 1071 01:07:35,310 --> 01:07:38,290 To the planning ed during the hamster.gov. 1072 01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:42,170 I mean, it doesn't require any, 1073 01:07:44,990 --> 01:07:46,190 I mean, there's a fee. 1074 01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:51,690 So with the fee, which is a form and fee? 1075 01:07:52,310 --> 01:07:54,030 It would be a second question. 1076 01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:54,830 Yes. 1077 01:07:55,830 --> 01:07:59,610 If you specifically need the town administrator involved, 1078 01:07:59,750 --> 01:08:00,410 is that what you're saying? 1079 01:08:00,670 --> 01:08:02,170 Is that you're calling it specifically? 1080 01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:04,150 Yeah, because they need you involved. 1081 01:08:04,570 --> 01:08:06,670 They have to collect the fees. 1082 01:08:06,990 --> 01:08:07,350 They have to. 1083 01:08:08,190 --> 01:08:09,090 Oh, that pay for you. 1084 01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:10,410 That's all wrong, right? 1085 01:08:12,170 --> 01:08:13,050 Well, wait a second. 1086 01:08:16,090 --> 01:08:22,570 So it should be the same, but it's the assessing mailbox and right now the TA and everybody 1087 01:08:22,570 --> 01:08:23,170 was covering. 1088 01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:23,690 Right. 1089 01:08:23,890 --> 01:08:24,970 It gets us to see that. 1090 01:08:25,770 --> 01:08:29,670 So at some point, the TA can direct traffic with 1091 01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:34,040 that. 1092 01:08:34,180 --> 01:08:34,640 Yeah. 1093 01:08:34,780 --> 01:08:36,260 I think this counted as a process. 1094 01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:37,100 Let's see. 1095 01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:37,460 I see. 1096 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:38,000 At first. 1097 01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:40,000 However. 1098 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,640 To keep describing it. 1099 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:53,000 not by an adjustment universe as a subset of a subdivision application. If I 1100 01:08:53,000 --> 01:09:01,120 understand it, for those of us who didn't discuss all of this with that, something 1101 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:06,720 you would ask if they had a chance to look at it. So the only authority for the 1102 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:16,800 town, a lot, is this part of a subdivision, heads under the RSAs. The under the 1103 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:25,500 RSA, however, there is permission to consider a streamlined subdivision process, I'll call 1104 01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:32,840 the platform one of the lines and this, where the nature of that process is not going 1105 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,380 to change the number of 1106 01:09:38,490 --> 01:09:43,450 building lots or assessed properties before the town. 1107 01:09:44,190 --> 01:09:55,350 So if it's if you're talking about adjusting lines between two existing lots on the town's records has established on our tax map. 1108 01:09:55,930 --> 01:10:01,370 And all we're doing is moving lines at creating new building lots. 1109 01:10:01,950 --> 01:10:05,370 That would be a lot of line adjustment. That's what it says. Right. 1110 01:10:05,370 --> 01:10:12,270 Right, so just so you understand that now comes the question, because I had this come up before my own personal situation 1111 01:10:12,270 --> 01:10:14,970 and I don't remember if there was any other subject matter. 1112 01:10:15,490 --> 01:10:17,670 Maybe we had the time to screw it up. 1113 01:10:18,330 --> 01:10:18,550 I don't know. 1114 01:10:19,450 --> 01:10:20,690 I had a lot. 1115 01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:25,070 It was a create a lot, of course, 29 or something like that, as I remember. 1116 01:10:25,610 --> 01:10:32,330 I purchased a joining property of some 18 acres and then I came before the planning board 1117 01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:36,070 to merge the two plots. 1118 01:10:36,490 --> 01:10:37,090 I did the same thing. 1119 01:10:37,090 --> 01:10:38,070 That's different, that's not it? 1120 01:10:38,250 --> 01:10:39,830 Yeah. Now, what is that? 1121 01:10:40,490 --> 01:10:43,750 And how does that fit within the scheme we're talking about? 1122 01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:45,470 That's a lot more than that. 1123 01:10:45,470 --> 01:10:46,270 That is a lot lighter. 1124 01:10:46,430 --> 01:10:47,890 Just that you're removing a lot. 1125 01:10:48,330 --> 01:10:48,530 A lot. 1126 01:10:49,050 --> 01:10:50,210 Well, that's a lot of merge. 1127 01:10:50,650 --> 01:10:51,130 It's a merge. 1128 01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:52,130 A merge. 1129 01:10:52,170 --> 01:10:52,950 That's my point. 1130 01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:53,510 It's a merge. 1131 01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:57,150 But it does change the assessing records of the town. 1132 01:10:57,330 --> 01:10:59,670 Because in the case where I did it, 1133 01:10:59,670 --> 01:11:07,610 I went from a 2.39 acre log, that was logic within the waterfront, to what became a 20 acre 1134 01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:07,930 log. 1135 01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:19,730 Now subject to current use, there's all kinds of other assessing implications, and you 1136 01:11:19,730 --> 01:11:24,890 would think that I don't know what the thing, I mean it went, I just can't even make this 1137 01:11:26,590 --> 01:11:30,710 We're going to wipe out the line between the two lots and call it all one lot and that's what we've got decided. 1138 01:11:31,370 --> 01:11:34,610 And then the assessors assess that we have a way to assess it. 1139 01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:36,850 Does that fit the definition? 1140 01:11:38,130 --> 01:11:43,230 Are we talking about rangers as well as lot line adjustments between, 1141 01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:46,810 because it's something to adjust the line between two existing lots. 1142 01:11:46,810 --> 01:11:51,790 Nothing to wipe out a line and wipe out a lot, which is what you do. 1143 01:11:51,790 --> 01:11:55,510 Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's two different things, right? 1144 01:11:56,270 --> 01:11:59,190 I'm asking the question because you like to see that in the end, you did it in the end. 1145 01:11:59,810 --> 01:12:03,030 It would like you to see that again, now what are we going to do with that one, that was. 1146 01:12:03,170 --> 01:12:05,430 Need a separate application and process for that? 1147 01:12:05,730 --> 01:12:07,090 Is there a subdivision application? 1148 01:12:07,650 --> 01:12:08,310 What is it? 1149 01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:09,150 Oh, right. 1150 01:12:09,370 --> 01:12:19,890 It was one page thing and you listed the different maps and it's what's called a very easy process 1151 01:12:19,890 --> 01:12:20,810 for the planning course. 1152 01:12:20,810 --> 01:12:21,150 Good. 1153 01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:26,430 And the process should be easy for the applicant too if it doesn't require such scrutiny from 1154 01:12:26,430 --> 01:12:27,390 our plan. 1155 01:12:28,570 --> 01:12:32,870 Well, you can think of it because you already have a buildable lot that's already in the 1156 01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:36,390 non-performing or a bit of longing lot, you're now heading to it, so what are you doing? 1157 01:12:37,050 --> 01:12:40,290 You have to worry about it, we sure have to worry about it, so you don't have to worry about 1158 01:12:40,290 --> 01:12:40,850 it. 1159 01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:42,570 And you have something that's got the buildings on it. 1160 01:12:42,810 --> 01:12:43,270 There's the bottom. 1161 01:12:43,550 --> 01:12:43,610 So. 1162 01:12:43,950 --> 01:12:44,490 Yes, there you go. 1163 01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:46,630 That's the voluntary lot line work. 1164 01:12:46,750 --> 01:12:46,870 Sure. 1165 01:12:47,070 --> 01:12:49,390 This is a form that's out on the website. 1166 01:12:49,390 --> 01:12:49,530 Yeah. 1167 01:12:49,530 --> 01:12:52,950 I mean, it's the voluntary lock merger form, you just have to fill this out. 1168 01:12:53,470 --> 01:12:54,930 Okay, thank you very much. 1169 01:12:55,710 --> 01:12:58,930 So we made the circuit just the time you had it all the time. 1170 01:12:59,290 --> 01:13:03,810 A lot on a adjustment form, according to Bob Carter, who was a past chair of the mine board, 1171 01:13:03,930 --> 01:13:06,130 and somehow we can't find it. 1172 01:13:06,390 --> 01:13:11,670 I mean, it might rare, it's for all we know after we adopt something like this. 1173 01:13:12,130 --> 01:13:16,130 This is just so that you didn't have to use the subdivision application 1174 01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:21,990 and ask for a ton of waivers, which requires a lot of work from the planning board and that's 1175 01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:25,870 all this is. But at least, at least no stone on the current. 1176 01:13:26,110 --> 01:13:31,410 Well, I agree that we need it, for sure. We definitely need it. We need to update the process 1177 01:13:32,130 --> 01:13:36,570 and all of this is fantastic. We're just kind of discussing it. 1178 01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:41,410 Yeah. I know what happened above Carter's proposal. 1179 01:13:41,410 --> 01:13:46,910 I was going to ask that question, he was in an exigeant situation, and I think he was 1180 01:13:46,910 --> 01:13:47,970 tenuous in it best. 1181 01:13:49,150 --> 01:13:55,690 Well, I'll tell him we got the form if we adopted, or we're getting close, but he was 1182 01:13:55,690 --> 01:14:01,150 not interested in going through all the work of the subdivision application and asking for 1183 01:14:01,150 --> 01:14:03,030 other waivers and defending himself. 1184 01:14:04,730 --> 01:14:08,850 But it was fun working with Matt, and I encourage you all to do it sometime. 1185 01:14:09,870 --> 01:14:19,770 I didn't take much we used a can of very template and I did a lot of work on the actual 1186 01:14:20,710 --> 01:14:25,230 component of the list and Matt just did a quick reference on where you can find all that stuff. 1187 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:37,420 There's a set of conditions for the very young ladies, like that it's an issue, so it's not about that. 1188 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:49,840 They're the ones that are the number one to do my attention, which were that the two properties that are going to be subject to the law behind adjustment, which may not be only by the same person. 1189 01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:59,380 It may be two different owners who are the great talent, a lot like them to take their properties as I understand the process. 1190 01:15:00,110 --> 01:15:06,950 However, for this to work, it states that the properties listed herein shall not be subject 1191 01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:18,090 to separate themes of mortgages. So, is that because the underlying guarantee of the 1192 01:15:19,290 --> 01:15:22,530 That's a change that we diminish without the approval of the mogul, 1193 01:15:22,610 --> 01:15:26,010 and if that's the concern, why wouldn't the condition be, 1194 01:15:26,670 --> 01:15:32,930 and if they are, that there would be approval by the underlying green odor of mogul. 1195 01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:36,190 When I worked on this voluntary log merger form, 1196 01:15:36,250 --> 01:15:38,170 it also has one of those conditions in here, 1197 01:15:38,810 --> 01:15:40,730 and I believe that it's tied to staple. 1198 01:15:41,730 --> 01:15:43,130 So it's a staple of pass down. 1199 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:55,560 I'm on the last page by signing below, so next is the last page, okay, after number four, 1200 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:56,520 we're on the other board. 1201 01:16:05,870 --> 01:16:07,530 I don't understand number two at all. 1202 01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:12,590 Any search means, I understand that. 1203 01:16:13,170 --> 01:16:16,510 Why do the limbs have to apply equally to all parcels? 1204 01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:17,430 I don't understand that. 1205 01:16:17,730 --> 01:16:18,950 I don't understand that one. 1206 01:16:19,670 --> 01:16:20,130 I understand. 1207 01:16:20,130 --> 01:16:25,530 So, I think it may just need to be a little bit better with Smith. 1208 01:16:25,690 --> 01:16:32,770 So we actually had, if you guys recall, we had the situation right on North Road, the 1209 01:16:33,580 --> 01:16:38,230 old house that now there's a new home being built. 1210 01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:44,070 If you remember, he had an issue with his driveway, so we did a lot of line investment for 1211 01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:46,030 him after the subdivision was done. 1212 01:16:46,810 --> 01:16:53,390 And that was because I remember he had an issue with driveway and when he purchased the 1213 01:16:53,390 --> 01:16:56,750 property he didn't realize that there was going to be the slope of the berm. 1214 01:16:57,230 --> 01:17:03,990 And the seller was very amendable to making the lot line adjustment so that he could buy 1215 01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:04,270 it. 1216 01:17:04,990 --> 01:17:13,010 So I think that, I think what that means is that I don't understand why we as a town would 1217 01:17:13,010 --> 01:17:19,110 care about a lien, right? The town wouldn't have a lien. That would be like a bank lien. 1218 01:17:20,010 --> 01:17:23,630 I don't know how you're going to say what it means to stay. The lien, the lien has to 1219 01:17:23,630 --> 01:17:28,410 apply equally to all parcels. I don't know if I don't understand what that even means. 1220 01:17:28,570 --> 01:17:34,110 That seems like if you had one owner of the two parcels, that'd be in the case of one owner 1221 01:17:34,110 --> 01:17:39,670 of the two parcels, adjusting the line. Because otherwise, if it's two different owners 1222 01:17:39,670 --> 01:17:42,190 I don't know if you're interested in laying this on a pipe, but I can't. 1223 01:17:42,810 --> 01:17:46,650 I said I need to tell you guys, I see the piece of the, let's twist behind that. 1224 01:17:47,230 --> 01:17:47,470 Okay. 1225 01:17:49,130 --> 01:17:50,350 I wish I had an answer for you. 1226 01:17:50,490 --> 01:17:51,890 Yeah, that's not all. 1227 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:53,010 It's easy. 1228 01:17:53,530 --> 01:17:53,890 It's easy. 1229 01:17:54,150 --> 01:17:54,970 You still have to question her. 1230 01:17:55,090 --> 01:17:59,270 You're saying equal to all parcels in the case where one on her owns all parts. 1231 01:17:59,870 --> 01:18:02,190 Well, if you'll be around next meeting, why don't we ask her? 1232 01:18:02,570 --> 01:18:03,390 Yeah, exactly. 1233 01:18:04,850 --> 01:18:08,130 And there's the section for the two owners to sign. 1234 01:18:08,130 --> 01:18:08,830 The 1235 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,520 very last paragraph is going to indicate two different months, doesn't it? 1236 01:18:33,370 --> 01:18:36,690 There's a question reviewed by the hearing tax successor for a lot. 1237 01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:48,340 I'll see. 1238 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,080 Is this in a better reference? 1239 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:56,400 By the signature below, this request has been reviewed by the time during planning board. 1240 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,840 And the lot line adjustments will not result in the violation of the front zoning ordinance. 1241 01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:05,360 So the reading regulations says any of the lots at all. 1242 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,180 Yes, or in the case of an existing nonconforming lot. 1243 01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:14,970 So he's saying he should say lots, right? 1244 01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:16,030 In the case of a business... 1245 01:19:16,030 --> 01:19:17,250 Well, it doesn't have to be said lots of times. 1246 01:19:17,250 --> 01:19:17,910 Yeah, just one. 1247 01:19:18,030 --> 01:19:18,450 Just one. 1248 01:19:18,710 --> 01:19:19,430 If that covers two. 1249 01:19:20,750 --> 01:19:25,590 Under the English language, there could be the existence of a two non-conforming lots. 1250 01:19:26,150 --> 01:19:29,150 And that would be an existing non-conforming lot. 1251 01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:29,710 For a time, right? 1252 01:19:30,010 --> 01:19:30,890 That's the first one. 1253 01:19:31,870 --> 01:19:32,790 So what's your suggestion? 1254 01:19:33,230 --> 01:19:33,610 What are you saying? 1255 01:19:33,690 --> 01:19:33,910 Nothing. 1256 01:19:34,750 --> 01:19:35,130 It's okay. 1257 01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:35,510 It's okay. 1258 01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:37,330 Okay, and 1259 01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:46,160 Tom, you say that there should be a place for two tax map numbers and a lot of numbers. 1260 01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:46,980 I would think. 1261 01:19:47,980 --> 01:19:48,680 There was. 1262 01:19:49,020 --> 01:19:50,300 All right, on the flash page. 1263 01:19:50,740 --> 01:19:51,000 There was. 1264 01:19:51,180 --> 01:19:51,480 Very funny. 1265 01:19:51,860 --> 01:19:53,100 Right, here's one. 1266 01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:53,900 I know too. 1267 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,740 Where it goes to the very last. 1268 01:19:55,900 --> 01:19:56,240 Very last. 1269 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,700 Where it goes to the accessor. 1270 01:19:59,020 --> 01:20:00,060 Oh, I see. 1271 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:00,820 Yeah, absolutely. 1272 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:01,500 Anyway. 1273 01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:03,100 Yeah, two. 1274 01:20:03,220 --> 01:20:04,140 There's going to be two here. 1275 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:04,740 Two maps. 1276 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:05,840 Two lots of lines. 1277 01:20:06,020 --> 01:20:06,640 Two lots of affected. 1278 01:20:07,060 --> 01:20:07,200 Yeah. 1279 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:07,900 Yeah, he's got 1280 01:20:13,250 --> 01:20:14,350 there with more, but I 1281 01:20:17,130 --> 01:20:22,870 have to say that it has four to what you say, but that's merging as opposed to that. 1282 01:20:23,630 --> 01:20:24,630 Yeah, merging up to four. 1283 01:20:24,890 --> 01:20:26,910 Yeah, you can merge up to four lots all at once. 1284 01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:27,390 Four. 1285 01:20:27,810 --> 01:20:29,770 I'm sure you could put more if you wanted to. 1286 01:20:29,970 --> 01:20:31,470 Yeah, because it's a word document. 1287 01:20:31,790 --> 01:20:34,690 Yeah, he could always expand it. 1288 01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:46,550 I've done the first page. 1289 01:20:46,910 --> 01:20:48,590 Yeah, we were talking about the planner part. 1290 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,680 What do you guys think of? 1291 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,380 I'm just throwing this out there because I know we probably want to get whatever we can get done. 1292 01:20:56,380 --> 01:21:02,840 And so the applicant is encouraged to request a conceptual review with the planning boards 1293 01:21:03,370 --> 01:21:10,740 during formulation of the plan and before submitting a final application or during the 1294 01:21:10,740 --> 01:21:16,220 formulation of a plan for guidance under existing town ordinance and regulations before submitting 1295 01:21:16,220 --> 01:21:17,300 a final application. 1296 01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:20,720 Yeah, as long as we keep the word encouraged there because they can do it or not. 1297 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:21,040 Right. 1298 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,540 Yeah, and just be thanks to the author of that. 1299 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:29,540 A smart person would, but a knowledge of a person may not have to fear 1300 01:21:36,010 --> 01:21:36,450 people. 1301 01:21:37,890 --> 01:21:42,210 Well, shall we put this in the file here and then have a share of his meeting? 1302 01:21:42,530 --> 01:21:42,630 Sure. 1303 01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:45,490 And recently my friend after he's there, I had a survey. 1304 01:21:45,810 --> 01:21:49,770 I revised the survey with a lot of, he's probably going to be a regular. 1305 01:21:49,970 --> 01:21:52,670 Right, the survey or we want a lot of answers. 1306 01:21:52,670 --> 01:22:05,770 right yeah do you want to give that language to Matt I had a good no I can I can 1307 01:22:05,770 --> 01:22:20,550 continue it yes I don't think that it's it's not like we need to have it's your 1308 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:23,570 Do you have anything to add? 1309 01:22:24,130 --> 01:22:24,290 No. 1310 01:22:24,510 --> 01:22:25,090 I have a question. 1311 01:22:25,450 --> 01:22:25,670 Sure. 1312 01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:31,490 So in the case of when we haven't heard of law of color, they're sure we're coming back 1313 01:22:31,490 --> 01:22:31,890 to the board. 1314 01:22:31,970 --> 01:22:39,770 Why couldn't the board do the very same thing that this application has us do without having 1315 01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:45,090 an application to do it and just to say, okay, it's a subdivision application. 1316 01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:52,710 don't fill out 4.2, 4.3, 4.7, 5.2, 5.5, we're going to wave those anyway. 1317 01:22:53,210 --> 01:22:57,190 Come on and ask us for waivers on those provisions, just like we have here. 1318 01:22:57,810 --> 01:23:01,390 Because you have to document that and we would have to redo our poll. 1319 01:23:01,690 --> 01:23:06,410 And I think the fee should be appropriate, because the subject should pay maybe more 1320 01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:10,010 than what this should be, because it requires less scrutiny. 1321 01:23:10,910 --> 01:23:17,040 I'm just thinking about the cases that might come up before we have a process, do we have 1322 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,920 to have this in order to be able to do effect it? 1323 01:23:19,940 --> 01:23:20,260 That's good. 1324 01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:20,940 Yeah. 1325 01:23:22,220 --> 01:23:25,000 Well, I suggest we get some giddy up in our process. 1326 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:26,660 We should be approved next meeting now. 1327 01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:27,240 Yeah. 1328 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,080 We can, I mean, we can approve it. 1329 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,740 But we just have questions from that specifically. 1330 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:32,560 Okay. 1331 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:37,580 So, my initial suggestion had been along that lines, like take our existing subdivision 1332 01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:40,700 application but for a lot of adjustments that 1333 01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:46,710 way as you're redoing forms everything gets done 1334 01:23:46,710 --> 01:23:48,030 at once and then there isn't this. 1335 01:23:59,570 --> 01:24:03,970 Can we update our subdivision regulations? That's 1336 01:24:03,970 --> 01:24:10,050 a substitute change, right? We would have to go... I think something like that is to have come 1337 01:24:10,050 --> 01:24:14,830 meeting for substitute change. They should go here and... Thank you very, do we're done? 1338 01:24:14,830 --> 01:24:17,130 If it's just on an application, 1339 01:24:19,390 --> 01:24:28,170 those regulations, you said to change the regulations, so that you're 1340 01:24:28,170 --> 01:24:31,630 mimicking the same thing, but you're exempting the things that wouldn't be applicable. 1341 01:24:32,610 --> 01:24:36,490 For that line, adjustments only need to leave the start edge. 1342 01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:41,410 Right, and here's the B-Sketwell for this and here's the B-Sketwell for that. 1343 01:24:41,410 --> 01:24:46,650 So everything is all one stock, and you don't end up with all these different documents. 1344 01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:57,170 So the suggestion is to forego this form and just modify. 1345 01:24:59,010 --> 01:25:05,250 I think all the work is here. It's just a matter of going to the other form and saying, okay, these are the things that don't apply. 1346 01:25:05,250 --> 01:25:11,750 Oh, this is good work, you know, and I didn't find what for you to separate form for merge your 1347 01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:17,090 lot line adjustment subdivision. You're saying no, I may think I touched that. 1348 01:25:17,230 --> 01:25:24,850 Yeah, my suggestion was taking the existing subdivision application and then from that, using 1349 01:25:24,850 --> 01:25:30,730 this as the guide for what to take out. So if you are doing a lot line adjustments, do section 1350 01:25:30,730 --> 01:25:35,430 this, this, this, this, this. The fee is this. I see people. 1351 01:25:35,890 --> 01:25:37,670 Well, to the town of the state. Yeah. 1352 01:25:37,870 --> 01:25:41,850 Well, no, to determine what they have to fill out. So that way, you're not saying it twice. 1353 01:25:42,250 --> 01:25:48,570 Because if you go to update the subdivision application, but then forget to do a lot of 1354 01:25:48,570 --> 01:25:51,870 things. I think it's been confused. People and it's going to be too worried. 1355 01:25:52,290 --> 01:25:55,840 And they don't get much. It's kind of confused people. Talk about that for a 1356 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,600 It's a person that doesn't understand. 1357 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,520 I mean, you're going to have to put it in the hole. 1358 01:25:59,780 --> 01:26:01,840 We're talking about that way. 1359 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:02,500 That way. 1360 01:26:02,540 --> 01:26:03,360 The data test, too, for. 1361 01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:04,580 Plus, it's not going to be amazing. 1362 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:05,220 It used to be. 1363 01:26:05,340 --> 01:26:06,200 Now, I'm going to apply. 1364 01:26:06,420 --> 01:26:10,160 And lie down as a patient, and then I'm going to do a slaper. 1365 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:10,980 It's a safer, good idea. 1366 01:26:11,180 --> 01:26:12,960 I just do that, do that. 1367 01:26:16,140 --> 01:26:17,920 And I mean, we get this right. 1368 01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,820 This is actually a straight line of work that we do. 1369 01:26:22,500 --> 01:26:23,360 I want to do it. 1370 01:26:23,900 --> 01:26:26,520 You can do it in a regular way, but it's on page. 1371 01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:27,340 It back-up page. 1372 01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:27,780 16 1373 01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:40,600 I agree with you. 1374 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,460 I agree with you, but there is a reference to where they can look it up. 1375 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,660 I thought that was pretty cool that we have all the references. 1376 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,320 You know, well, um, 1377 01:26:56,940 --> 01:27:04,160 Yeah, well, hyperlinks right up here, Tom, we are now hyperlinks, okay, 1378 01:27:06,260 --> 01:27:07,420 any other questions? 1379 01:27:09,980 --> 01:27:20,980 All right, excellent, so now we go on to, I don't know if anyone has had a chance to review the minutes, the last, they're in the packet. 1380 01:27:36,270 --> 01:27:40,210 No, it wasn't in the e-mail. I thought it was because I had to start some questions. 1381 01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:50,070 I mean, we don't have- 1382 01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:51,230 I am a handsome girl. 1383 01:27:53,090 --> 01:27:54,330 I know what you're saying. 1384 01:27:55,130 --> 01:27:55,650 I know what you're saying. 1385 01:27:55,650 --> 01:27:55,890 I know what you're saying. 1386 01:27:56,910 --> 01:27:58,250 The code depends on the voice. 1387 01:27:58,750 --> 01:27:59,090 Thank you. 1388 01:27:59,410 --> 01:28:06,630 I would suggest a good reader on this because it does have Peter putting forward a subdivision plan review. 1389 01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:10,950 So, it has been following great afterwards. 1390 01:28:11,810 --> 01:28:12,110 See you later. 1391 01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:13,570 Yeah, I think. 1392 01:28:14,090 --> 01:28:14,530 We're here. 1393 01:28:14,770 --> 01:28:15,230 I will. 1394 01:28:15,410 --> 01:28:15,750 I will. 1395 01:28:16,170 --> 01:28:17,770 Does anyone want me to read a mail? 1396 01:28:17,890 --> 01:28:18,350 Because I can. 1397 01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:19,250 Yeah. 1398 01:28:19,310 --> 01:28:19,470 Okay. 1399 01:28:19,930 --> 01:28:20,870 How do you do your homework? 1400 01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:22,270 And then we can do our homework. 1401 01:28:22,270 --> 01:28:24,010 I just wanted it on the. 1402 01:28:25,250 --> 01:28:25,750 On your list. 1403 01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:27,090 And I am a. 1404 01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:28,670 I am a. 1405 01:28:28,670 --> 01:28:28,890 I am a. 1406 01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:30,570 This kind of people dream. 1407 01:28:30,850 --> 01:28:33,710 They're homework instead of real-time fact checking. 1408 01:28:33,710 --> 01:28:36,110 Matt is our real-time fact checker. 1409 01:28:36,730 --> 01:28:38,430 We have everything in front of us. 1410 01:28:38,850 --> 01:28:40,710 Let's come prepared with our questions. 1411 01:28:40,710 --> 01:28:46,970 Sure, there's going to be some conversation dialogue that will require some real-time fact-checking. 1412 01:28:47,190 --> 01:28:48,490 We've seen about regulations. 1413 01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:49,430 What is it? 1414 01:28:49,510 --> 01:28:52,550 And that's the one that should do that. 1415 01:28:53,210 --> 01:28:55,050 So we can move things around. 1416 01:28:55,210 --> 01:28:57,450 Meaning putting it into another formatter? 1417 01:28:57,850 --> 01:29:02,450 No, just while we're having the discussion, instead of one of us on our computer looking at it, 1418 01:29:02,450 --> 01:29:07,890 Matt looks it up while he continues on the same thought process that we're all 1419 01:29:07,890 --> 01:29:09,690 to point you to use this somewhere else. 1420 01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:09,930 May. 1421 01:29:13,670 --> 01:29:14,450 That's from Bob Carter. 1422 01:29:14,690 --> 01:29:15,970 Yeah, yeah. 1423 01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:17,110 I thought it was a lot worth it. 1424 01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:18,890 Also, Matt and Sheriff. 1425 01:29:19,630 --> 01:29:25,790 You are kind enough to make tons of copies but I think we all get the information via email. 1426 01:29:26,010 --> 01:29:28,170 Most of us have printers and nobody here doesn't have a printer. 1427 01:29:30,180 --> 01:29:35,860 So, um, I don't think you have to get here and ban ton of coffees. 1428 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,920 Maybe something for the public if you feel that's appropriate to have. 1429 01:29:40,500 --> 01:29:43,160 But, uh, we all can ease that burden. 1430 01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:44,560 Just comprehend. 1431 01:29:45,220 --> 01:29:45,500 Yeah. 1432 01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:47,280 Push your follow online, if you know. 1433 01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:53,430 Whatever makes you comfortable. 1434 01:29:53,910 --> 01:29:54,110 Yeah. 1435 01:29:54,250 --> 01:29:57,410 You know, I don't, I'm not putting restrictions on anybody all the way. 1436 01:29:57,610 --> 01:29:58,130 You feel comfortable. 1437 01:29:58,290 --> 01:29:58,410 Right. 1438 01:29:58,570 --> 01:29:58,730 Yeah. 1439 01:29:58,730 --> 01:29:59,890 Yeah, I think it's all too hard. 1440 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980 We're not to have electronic devices, but it's the real time fact-checking when we start to lose, you know, the threat of what we're trying to do here. So if we all, you know, we all have our stuff ahead of time. We research it. We're all planning board members. If we have questions, write them down. And then we'll discuss it as a group. I'm all fast and so I just do the paper. Otherwise your time is late. Yeah. And I think that we need to have a cubby that has a 1441 01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:33,540 All our planning board documents, hard copies. 1442 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,120 So if we really feel like we want to look up our regulations 1443 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,520 or our zoning ordinance, we can do that. 1444 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,880 And I would like to propose that it ain't cheap 1445 01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:46,220 because copies aren't cheap unless I spend time here doing it. 1446 01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:50,440 Do you want to reopen the world where our town planner, 1447 01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:54,340 you still always have a binder for us every new day? 1448 01:30:55,020 --> 01:30:57,360 I mean, I don't mind having the binders, 1449 01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,760 but in this modern era of electronics, 1450 01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,780 I'm not sure it's appropriate to demand 1451 01:31:03,780 --> 01:31:05,840 that everybody has a binder, right? 1452 01:31:06,420 --> 01:31:09,260 But it's nice to have that hard copy 1453 01:31:09,260 --> 01:31:11,600 of the regulations, the site plan regulations, 1454 01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:12,800 and the zoning stuff. 1455 01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:13,940 Just here. 1456 01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:15,560 Do you want me to put that together? 1457 01:31:16,380 --> 01:31:17,780 I have a laser printer home. 1458 01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:19,620 That's a lot of paper. 1459 01:31:19,620 --> 01:31:20,560 That's a lot of paper. 1460 01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:22,340 I don't care. 1461 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:23,140 That would be great. 1462 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,960 I was just going to do it, but I'm sure it's screwed up. 1463 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,380 Yeah, I want to do it. 1464 01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:28,820 I want to do it. 1465 01:31:28,820 --> 01:31:29,520 I want to do it. 1466 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,100 I want to do it. 1467 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:30,880 I want to do it. 1468 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:31,840 I want to do it. 1469 01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:31,860 It's fantastic. 1470 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:33,460 Yeah. 1471 01:31:34,060 --> 01:31:40,240 And forms, all of our forms, you know, like you have to do a great job with the repository, everything. 1472 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:41,960 You're really good at that. 1473 01:31:42,420 --> 01:31:44,480 If we can just have all of that stuff, it's right there. 1474 01:31:45,060 --> 01:31:46,200 First works for a bank, right? 1475 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:49,540 It's on the bank at this point. 1476 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:49,880 Yes. 1477 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:50,980 I'm here for it. 1478 01:31:51,780 --> 01:31:57,120 I'd also like to see something on that wall that we can hang maps for presenters. 1479 01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:06,460 I think that's not a bad idea. Just a close line with clips. Not a hard thing. Who do I talk to about that? Dislike them? 1480 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:21,940 They make tracks. Yeah, right. I think it would help. I think it's a track and it's a little court-porn and then you can just put them right in. 1481 01:32:21,940 --> 01:32:24,740 Yeah, I know the time map always helps. 1482 01:32:24,740 --> 01:32:25,060 Yeah. 1483 01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:25,680 Yep. 1484 01:32:25,940 --> 01:32:27,240 Confirmation means everything. 1485 01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:28,380 It's not your actual map. 1486 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:29,340 Yeah, yeah. 1487 01:32:29,820 --> 01:32:31,400 Okay, those are my little bit papers. 1488 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:32,300 Thank you. 1489 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,720 Yeah, a little project. 1490 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:36,800 And thank you to you for that. 1491 01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:37,160 Yeah. 1492 01:32:37,220 --> 01:32:38,040 I appreciate it. 1493 01:32:38,140 --> 01:32:38,680 Thank you. 1494 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,180 That's what matters. 1495 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:40,940 Yeah. 1496 01:32:41,500 --> 01:32:42,640 Motion to adjourn. 1497 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:43,320 Eight or four. 1498 01:32:43,740 --> 01:32:44,740 Do I hear a second? 1499 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:45,320 I can. 1500 01:32:45,660 --> 01:32:46,280 All in favor? 1501 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:47,120 All right. 1502 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:48,240 All right. 1503 01:32:48,420 --> 01:32:48,800 Okay. 1504 01:32:49,580 --> 01:32:50,020 Congratulations. 1505 01:32:50,660 --> 01:32:50,860 Yes. 1506 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,000 See, I told you, why don't we get the... 1507 01:32:56,700 --> 01:32:57,440 Oh, hit that. 1508 01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:02,560 Now that I know, I think they have a new policy that they, uh, the last couple.