1 00:00:11,310 --> 00:00:22,250 Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the August 25th, 2026 Board of Commissioners meeting. I'm your district for commissioner and presiding officer, Shikara Johnson. 2 00:00:23,010 --> 00:00:38,790 Thank you for being here with us today. We do have a long agenda, so please bear with us. If we are running out of printed agendas, there is a QR code outside that front door that you can scan and get the agenda on your phone. 3 00:00:39,870 --> 00:00:46,790 Before we move into the inspirational, I did want to take a moment to have a moment of silence. 4 00:00:47,470 --> 00:00:52,570 We've had some passings in our community and some anniversaries of some passings in our community. 5 00:00:53,450 --> 00:00:59,930 I wanted to recognize the passing of our teacher and here at the county, Mr. Derek Moore, 6 00:01:00,210 --> 00:01:03,550 who passed the other week, saving a life in Florida. 7 00:01:03,550 --> 00:01:09,150 We also have the anniversary of Mr. Gary Bernard with the City of Decatur, and I know we have 8 00:01:09,150 --> 00:01:11,790 some Decatur Firemen with us here today I believe. 9 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:18,930 And then we have also recently had some members of the BLC family who have had passings in 10 00:01:18,930 --> 00:01:19,910 their family as well. 11 00:01:20,050 --> 00:01:25,150 So we want to take a moment to pause for them, and then we're coming, we just have the anniversary 12 00:01:25,150 --> 00:01:32,910 of the passing of Officer Rose and Master Firefighter Fans' anniversary is coming up soon. 13 00:01:32,910 --> 00:01:41,010 So, if this time, if we could just take a moment to pause and reflect on the losses that we have experienced into Cap County, 14 00:01:41,650 --> 00:01:42,830 let's take that moment now. 15 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:43,830 Thank you. 16 00:01:57,340 --> 00:01:58,100 Thank you everybody. 17 00:01:58,380 --> 00:01:59,720 I appreciate that. 18 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,480 So, now we will move into our normal agenda. 19 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,220 We will start with our inspirational speaker. 20 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:14,200 Ms. Lauren Faison, who is the District 3 intern. 21 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,560 If you will come to this podium, there she is, man, and I will read an introduction for you. 22 00:02:20,820 --> 00:02:24,460 Ms. Faesons serves as Commissioner Nicole Messiah's District 3 intern. 23 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:30,440 She is a driven professional passionate about project management leadership service and personal 24 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,720 growth. She holds a bachelor's degree in sociology and is pursuing a master's degree in 25 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,260 project management with experience in a administration, project coordination, and government 26 00:02:41,260 --> 00:02:46,720 operations. She is committed to excellence and continuous development. Lauren began 27 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,540 singing at the age of five with the encouragement of her parents. Her gift has 28 00:02:51,540 --> 00:02:55,680 allowed her to sing Gailas and alongside artists including the Nointed Paste 29 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:01,960 Sisters and Kira Shard. Through both her career and music Lauren strives to inspire others 30 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,800 serve with purpose and become the person God has called her to be. Good morning. 31 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Good morning 32 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:16,320 everyone. First I would like to take the time to thank Commissioner Masaya and the Board of Commissioners 33 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,380 for allowing me the opportunity to stand before you all. Typically, you all will have the 34 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:27,000 inspirational speaker, but this morning I will be rendering you all a short inspirational song. 35 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,380 I hope you guys enjoy. 36 00:06:03,410 --> 00:06:10,750 I pledge allegiance 37 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:19,340 to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, 38 00:06:19,340 --> 00:06:26,240 one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 39 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:28,580 If you commissioners, if you'll join me on the floor. 40 00:07:12,290 --> 00:07:13,350 Good morning everybody. 41 00:07:14,910 --> 00:07:21,470 So I will be presenting the Hispanic Heritage Month Proclamation on behalf of Madam CEO. 42 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:25,830 And I believe we have our deputy director from the Mexican Council here. 43 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:29,890 So if everyone who was here for this Hispanic Heritage Month, 44 00:07:30,110 --> 00:07:31,630 would like to start making your way forward. 45 00:07:31,630 --> 00:07:32,630 Okay, start 46 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,500 early marks. Good morning, everybody. 47 00:07:38,740 --> 00:07:40,540 On behalf of the Cab County CEO, 48 00:07:40,540 --> 00:07:46,320 Lorraine Cochrane Johnson, welcome and thank you for joining us as we recognize the 49 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,560 extraordinary contributions of the Cab County's Hispanic and Latino communities. 50 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:57,460 Although National Hesperic Heritage Month officially begins September 15, Madame CEO wanted 51 00:07:57,460 --> 00:08:03,500 to take this opportunity to celebrate a little early and recognize the community leaders 52 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:08,400 and partners who helped make the cab county such a bright vibrant and welcoming place. 53 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:17,340 Today we also honor Mexican Council Rafael Lavega for his outstanding leadership and 54 00:08:17,340 --> 00:08:19,240 partnership with the cab county. 55 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:25,220 We are pleased to welcome Deputy Council General Oswaldo A. Conto, who will accept this 56 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:27,160 on the Council's behalf. 57 00:08:28,180 --> 00:08:31,820 We also extend a warm welcome to our distinguished guests 58 00:08:31,820 --> 00:08:36,940 Veronica Maldon, Maldonato Torres, Carlos Pagolga. 59 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,240 I know I'm not that one up, I'm sorry. 60 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,640 Hello, the Abbott Alberto Sarto, 61 00:08:42,340 --> 00:08:47,120 Erica Lewis, representing Gabriel Matuta, 62 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,620 Eli Vales, representing Santiago Marquez, 63 00:08:51,620 --> 00:08:56,980 and Stephanie Koreas of Los Licinos, the Beaufort Highway. 64 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,280 CEO Coquan Johnson extends her sincere appreciation for your work to support families, 65 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,420 create opportunity, strengthen local businesses, and build meaningful connections across 66 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:09,320 our communities. 67 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:16,740 Our Hispanic and Latino residents are in a central part of the Cap County's identity and 68 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:17,100 future. 69 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:23,640 Their contributions continue to enrich our neighborhoods, strengthen our economy and shape 70 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,560 the county we are building together. 71 00:09:26,580 --> 00:09:32,640 As CEO Cochran Johnson often reminds us we cannot reimagine the cab without recognizing 72 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,880 and celebrating the people who make the cab extraordinary. 73 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:42,260 On her behalf, it is my privilege to present this proclamation recognizing National Hispanic 74 00:09:42,260 --> 00:09:46,880 and the invaluable contributions of Hispanic and Latino communities. 75 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:52,080 We are also excited to announce the Hispanic Heritage Month kickoff reception 76 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,760 is September 11th from 6 to 8 p.m. at Porter Sanford, 77 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,980 honoring Mexican artist Miguel Milo, who will be celebrating. 78 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Our culture and community. Madam Clerk, if you'll read the proclamation. 79 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:12,180 We're as Hispanic Heritage Month is an annual celebration of the history and culture of the U.S. 80 00:10:12,180 --> 00:10:23,440 Hispanic and Latino communities. Hispanic Heritage Month 2026 is observed from Tuesday, September 15th through Thursday, October 15th. 81 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:29,020 This event commemorates the ways these communities have influenced and contributed to society 82 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:36,560 at large, whereas the Cap County is home to a vibrant and diverse Hispanic and Latino community, 83 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:43,040 whose rich cultures, traditions, languages and histories have strengthened the social, cultural, 84 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:51,100 and economic fabric of our county, and whereas residents of Mexican origin constitute one 85 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:54,980 the most significant and longstanding Hispanic and Latino communities. 86 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,060 And to Cap County, contributing to the county's cultural 87 00:10:59,060 --> 00:11:03,340 vibrancy, entrepreneurial landscape, and economic growth 88 00:11:03,340 --> 00:11:07,140 for a thriving community of Hispanic and Latino owned businesses 89 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:08,980 throughout the county. 90 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:13,740 And whereas to Cap County proudly recognizes the leadership 91 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:17,880 and diplomatic service of Mexican council, 92 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:25,320 Raphael LeBagod, whose work strengthens cultural exchange, community trust, economic development, 93 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:31,880 and access to Councillor Services, along with collaboration, collaboration between 94 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,140 the Cap County and the Council of Mexico in Atlanta. 95 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,680 And whereas the Mexican Council has consistently partnered with the Cap County to an 96 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:48,560 and its cultural programming, advanced Hispanic and Latino entrepreneurship, and brought 97 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:53,480 on community engagement, thereby demonstrating a shared commitment to the well-being 98 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,780 and prosperity of the gaps that bears population. 99 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:04,100 And to where as all visitors, businesses, schools, community organizations, and visitors 100 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:11,380 are encouraged to join and celebrating the heritage history, achievements in lasting contributions 101 00:12:11,380 --> 00:12:18,140 positions of Hispanic and Latino Americans, and to reaffirm our shared commitment to 102 00:12:18,140 --> 00:12:22,680 opportunity, respect, and the strength of our diverse community. 103 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:28,120 Now, therefore, I, Lorraine Conquant Johnson, the Chief Executive Officer on the 104 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,860 half of the Gap County, Georgia, together with the Gap County Board of Commissioners 105 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:40,720 here by proclaim, September 15th through October 15th, 2021-26, as Hispanic Heritage 106 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:48,020 in Decap County, Georgia, and recognize Mexican come so about the El Ladega for outstanding 107 00:12:48,020 --> 00:12:54,560 diplomatic services, cultural leadership, and an enduring partnership with Decap County. 108 00:12:55,100 --> 00:13:03,180 Further, on behalf of our nearly 780,000 residents, we express our deepest appreciation to the 109 00:13:03,180 --> 00:13:10,120 Hispanic and Latino communities whose heritage, history, and contributions continue to 110 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:18,640 rich and strengthen the fabric of the Gav County, proclaim the 25th day of August 26th. 111 00:13:34,350 --> 00:13:40,250 Thank you very much. Not much else to be said. Everything is here. Everything has been read. 112 00:13:40,590 --> 00:13:47,630 Thank you very much. Thank you very much. On behalf of a lot of people, as you can see, I'm honored to receive this 113 00:13:47,630 --> 00:13:55,590 I believe the contributions of the Latino and Hispanic community to the state of Georgia and to the 114 00:13:55,590 --> 00:14:03,830 decal county are enormous and we feel very proud to be noticed and once again, if you allow me on behalf 115 00:14:03,830 --> 00:14:11,130 of all my friends standing behind me, thank you very much for this award, thank you for this recognition, thank you very much 116 00:14:11,130 --> 00:14:12,130 Once again. 117 00:14:40,390 --> 00:14:44,850 Thank you. 118 00:14:52,290 --> 00:14:53,990 Great morning everyone. 119 00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:59,970 It is indeed a great morning during National Black Business Month. 120 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:19,040 We had an opportunity not only to celebrate businesses but the people behind them. The people who took a chance, stepped out on faith, created opportunities, and then reached back to help others. Again, great morning. I have the pleasure to serve as your to cab county commissioner district three. 121 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:27,880 And I am here to celebrate Dr. Valencia Vow, Prince Littleton, because she is one of those 122 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,440 people that created opportunities here in the cab county. 123 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:40,580 Listen to this, for decades, Dr. Littleton has been an entrepreneur, an advocate and 124 00:15:40,580 --> 00:15:42,280 a servant to this community. 125 00:15:43,020 --> 00:15:48,960 She has built businesses, helped owners facing poor closure, vet families, provided toys, 126 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:58,500 the children and use her own experiences to advocate for others. She has consistently used 127 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:04,020 what she has built to strengthen families and to give back again to the communities around her. 128 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:10,020 This is the kind of entrepreneurship we want to recognize Indicab County. Businesses that create 129 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:16,320 opportunity, leaders who invest in their neighborhoods and people who show the next generation 130 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:22,800 what is possible. And sometimes we all need to see what is possible. She already 131 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,320 all way down here. She's always a diva. I absolutely love my girl. I love it. 132 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,320 Yes, welcome. 133 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,780 Today, it is my privilege to recognize Dr. Valencia, 134 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:49,400 Vice-Littleton is a beacon of excellence during National Black Business Month and to thank 135 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:57,080 her for the many years of leadership and service to the Cab County and District 3 and Memorial 136 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Drive and all throughout and I'm going to tell y'all those turn up greens are something you 137 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,680 got to go have them if you had it. 138 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,360 This vow, congratulations, and thank you for continuing to serve our community. 139 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:15,520 Madam Clark, could you please read the Proclamation? 140 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Whose life and career reflect a deep commitment to faith, entrepreneurship, service, 141 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,160 and the empowerment of others, and where as a graduate of South West High School and 142 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,620 Fort Valley State College, now Fort Valley State University, that's a little 143 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:46,120 built a successful career in corporate America, before stepping out on faith in 1997, to pursue 144 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:52,760 her entrepreneurship and create opportunities for herself, her family, and her community. 145 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:59,240 And where is that the little bit has demonstrated the spirit of Black Entrepreneurship through 146 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:06,540 several successful dentures, including Price, Littleton, and Associates, Madea, Soul, Food, and 147 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:08,420 talk of the town's soul food. 148 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,900 Establishing herself as a business woman, community leader, and role model for a sparring 149 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:22,340 aspiring entrepreneurs, and where is Dr. Littleton founded ACCS advocates in 2010, and 150 00:18:22,340 --> 00:18:27,880 use her knowledge and experience to have thousands of homeowners facing financial hardship and 151 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,200 possible foreclosure. 152 00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:35,880 Welcome to working to have families preserve their homes, financial stability, and a critical 153 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:42,360 part of the American Dream. And whereas her commitment to the Cap County extends far beyond 154 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:48,480 business as she has devoted decades to serving families and children through faith based 155 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:54,220 outreach holiday assistance and annual Turkey giveaway that has distributed and estimated 156 00:18:54,220 --> 00:19:00,580 2,000 turkeys and a toy drive spanning more than two decades. And that's a little bit 157 00:19:00,580 --> 00:19:07,140 continues to use her life experiences to serve others, including becoming an advocate for Alzheimer's 158 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:13,360 awareness, after caring for her mother for nearly five years. And Dr. Belensia Valle, 159 00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:18,900 Price Littleton, embodies that tradition of excellence through her entrepreneurship spirit, 160 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:26,100 her commitment to the Cat County and her unwavering ability that success carries with it a responsibility 161 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:28,020 to lift others. 162 00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:34,180 Now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Commission and Nicole Messiah, and the DeCAP County Board 163 00:19:34,180 --> 00:19:41,020 of the Missioners and is more than 780,000 citizens, do year by-recognized Dr. Vale 164 00:19:41,020 --> 00:19:47,380 Price Littleton for her outstanding contributions to DeCAP County, her decades of service to 165 00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:53,940 families and communities, and her example as a black entrepreneur, community role model, and 166 00:19:53,940 --> 00:19:59,960 The League of Excellence during National Black Business Month proclaim the 2050 at all. 167 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,220 That's twenty twenty six. 168 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,940 I don't want to welcome the family and friends of Ms. Bowel as a caller that 169 00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:14,320 come up front and come celebrate this moment along with her, please. 170 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:29,240 Well, good morning, good morning, good morning. I give on to God who's ahead of my life. To this 171 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:39,740 great county to this great border commissioners and our wonderful CEO of this county, the 172 00:20:39,740 --> 00:20:45,660 honorable, I said the honorable Lorraine Cocken Johnson, 173 00:20:48,260 --> 00:20:54,620 my family here, my friends, it's an 174 00:20:54,620 --> 00:21:02,360 honor to stand before you. I give honor to our previous commissioners, the oldest one living 175 00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:07,360 Commissioner John Evans, 176 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:18,070 Bishop, who's behind me, Greg Adams, and his beautiful wife. 177 00:21:19,670 --> 00:21:25,090 And y'all know everybody know me, know I'm a bad, hard-large Johnson. 178 00:21:27,150 --> 00:21:34,870 My, my leader, my son, my daughter, my husband, my pastor, to each of you here. 179 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:39,790 I will, I'm just a servant in the community trying to do better. 180 00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:45,590 I promise to continue to serve this great county. 181 00:21:48,130 --> 00:21:50,730 I just can't thank you enough. 182 00:21:51,330 --> 00:21:52,450 Commissroom aside. 183 00:21:54,490 --> 00:21:55,350 Where are you? 184 00:22:01,150 --> 00:22:05,110 And my sister, I love you, don't I love you? 185 00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:07,850 God bless each of you. 186 00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:09,470 Thank you very kindly. 187 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:11,850 my pastor and it's done in fact they have video. 188 00:23:30,430 --> 00:23:32,730 Deputy Council, if you'd like to come back up, I'd love to give 189 00:24:00,730 --> 00:24:18,230 you 190 00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:52,040 a 191 00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:33,810 The law and if you'd like to come up and get your pen as 192 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,800 well, 193 00:27:59,380 --> 00:28:03,820 thank you everybody, madam clerk, if you've read in the rules for comments from the public. 194 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:14,320 The purpose of public comment is to allow the public to voice county related requests, concerns or opinions during the commission meeting. 195 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:25,820 speakers will only have the opportunity for one public comment for meeting. Each speaker must please complete a speaker card and presented to the clerk before the beginning of the public comment portion of the meeting. 196 00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:29,960 Clark's turn into the clerk from the time the general meeting is convened. 197 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,620 Generally, 9 a.m. at the beginning of public comment portion, 198 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,540 generally following presentations on the agenda. 199 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,680 The clerk will accept cars on a first-computer-seared basis. 200 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,200 Proud to the clerk's call for public comments. 201 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker's who are residents of the cab county, 202 00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:50,000 shall be allowed to speak before residents of other counties are allowed to speak. 203 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:56,320 Speakers will be allowed to speak for three minutes each in public comment shall not exceed 30 minutes in length. 204 00:28:57,180 --> 00:29:02,440 When the buzzer sounds to indicate that time has run out, the speaker will be expected to immediately speak, 205 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:10,760 and to yield the podium. Those who submit his speaker cards, but did not speak because the retirement will be allowed to speak first 206 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,180 at the next regular office schedule commission meeting without regard to residents. 207 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker should always talk directly to the microphone and begin by stating their name, full 208 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,100 address, and the name of the new organization they represent. 209 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:30,420 Abusive, perfane, or drug-entering language, holding up signs, clapping, yelling, standing, 210 00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:35,900 delaying an ounce to show support for a opposition to a speaker, will not be permitted. 211 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:42,620 But a show of hands, a quietly standing in place, will be permitted to show support for 212 00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:45,660 opposition to a speaker's position. 213 00:29:47,910 --> 00:29:49,470 Thank you, man. Did we have speakers up 214 00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:55,850 over from the last meeting? Yes, man. We do. Thank you. Ronnie Mayor. Mr. Mayor, 215 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:59,550 good morning sir. Good morning, Ronnie. 216 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,060 Twenty-six, fifty-three, redding road in the city of Brookhaven. 217 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:30,680 I woke up this morning, five o'clock, watch the news, and then my hero Ted Terry. I like your boozey shoes today, buddy, but you're going to be a commission. You got to wear some boozey shoes to them, redding. We'll tend to shoes. I think we have more issues in our county to worry about blowers or electric. So let's talk about that before you start voting on stuff. 218 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:37,780 I got issues. I was so frustrated last week, but let's talk about it now. We have done 219 00:30:37,780 --> 00:30:45,900 housed in our county. There's a building at 85 and 25 to 0 hotel. This county needs to do 220 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:52,440 whatever it can to acquire that building. We could have the medical offices in the basement, 221 00:30:52,820 --> 00:30:59,660 psychiatrists, psychologists, it's on the bus line. It's near the grocery store. It would work so 222 00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:08,240 beautiful Michelle Spears. I love the commissioner for the Brookhaven Chamble area. I have 223 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,640 questions with unhoused every day and I call her on a cell and I bug heck I'll ever. But 224 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:20,160 she has helped me for many times. I want this county commission. Y'all talk and not listen 225 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:29,240 to me. We have been paying on a library bond for 25 years. This is the last year we're 226 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:37,720 on it. We still don't have a new library in Brookhaven. Somebody has stolen my six million dollars. 227 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:46,200 We want it at what we call what the old is the VA hospital used to be. They did a stroll like 228 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,520 a road on it but the reason the people voted against it having it at what we call the dog park 229 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,040 is they didn't want the city manager from the city of Brookhaven 230 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,440 to have his hands on the old building. 231 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,960 The EPA, the county came forward to do the development of that old library. 232 00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:08,980 And we'd have to close it for a year and a half as we build it. 233 00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:12,840 If we build a new one at a park, it will work. 234 00:32:13,340 --> 00:32:17,440 Have a library at a park walk outside, read your book. 235 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,800 I was playing on reading books 25 years ago to my kids. 236 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:25,720 Now, my kids are having kids. 237 00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,260 Twenty-five years we've been paying on this bond. 238 00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:30,240 God, y'all got to wake up. 239 00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:33,560 Get your head out of the sand and let's get this thing done. 240 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,220 Let's get this new y'all a plan on doing a fire station at Johnson's Fair. 241 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,040 And that's for done when he, let's get this done. 242 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,080 And this thing with these cameras, 243 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,300 flots, cameras, I want to be on one of those boards. 244 00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:52,300 We have a lot of people who don't really want them, 245 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,020 but if somebody in their family gets raped or shot or murdered, 246 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,660 they're going to call police immediately and say, 247 00:32:58,940 --> 00:33:01,060 look on your cameras and tell me who killed somebody. 248 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,100 So we need to keep those cameras in the Cal. 249 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,840 Thank you, sir. Thank you. 250 00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:07,320 Russell, I'm back in Tire. 251 00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:09,040 Miss McIntyre, good morning. 252 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:14,470 Russell McIntyre, the cab county. 253 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:32,010 Board of Commissioner members, the citizens of the CAB County demand that you honor and I quote that is governing authority of the CAB County is task with protecting the health, safety, and general welfare of the citizens of the CAB County Georgia. 254 00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:43,810 Be very clear about this. The CAB citizens want a data center text amendment, specifically one that protects the health, safety and general welfare of the CAB citizens. 255 00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:51,050 We want a tax amendment that is written using data glean from a professional health and environmental impacts study. 256 00:33:51,710 --> 00:33:57,030 A major reason the previous tax amendments failed citizen approval was because they appear to be written 257 00:33:57,030 --> 00:34:03,110 to support specific vendors, not for the health safety and general welfare of the cap citizens. 258 00:34:03,670 --> 00:34:10,170 We implore you to approve and fund and independent third-party data center health and environmental impacts study, 259 00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:14,670 Only in the areas in which the proposed data centers will be constructed. 260 00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:22,990 Not a general study that includes all of the cab county which would dilute and skew the results of the communities that will be affected. 261 00:34:23,770 --> 00:34:34,070 The moratorium was extended to March 30, 2027 to provide sufficient time to allow for further study to gain factual information to write an appropriate text amendment. 262 00:34:34,910 --> 00:34:41,130 Communities who saw legal action after the fact to protect public health from AI data centers 263 00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:47,270 include low Massachusetts. The court issued a state to halt the installation of massive 264 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:55,850 industrial diesel backup generators, Canton, Mississippi, an Amazon AI data center open and 265 00:34:55,850 --> 00:34:59,970 and it's quickly reported, acute long irritation, respiratory distress. 266 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,960 However, as in pervasive construction does, 267 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,860 the public outrage triggered a class action lawsuit 268 00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:15,180 alleging clean water acts violations. Memphis 10 is C. The EPA stepped in against the X-A-I facility, 269 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:22,120 because of toxic air caused by methane gas turbines. An increase in health problems and deaths, 270 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:28,840 Memphis City officials, commission an independent laboratory study. We are asking that a cab water 271 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,420 Commission is to be proactive in ordering an independent third party health and environmental 272 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:38,400 impacts study during this moratorium to get the data and information that should be employed 273 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,800 to guide their decisions and to write an appropriate text amendment that will protect the 274 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,060 health, safety, and general welfare of the citizens of the camp counting. 275 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,600 A task that a camp counting board of commissioners has been sworn to provide to people 276 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,620 whom they represent and serve. 277 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,260 Thank you, ma'am. 278 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:00,900 Good morning. 279 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:05,840 Good morning. 280 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,120 Good morning. 281 00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:06,580 Good morning. 282 00:36:06,580 --> 00:36:06,620 Good morning. 283 00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:12,780 My name is Lane Flynn and I live at 3127 Blerodrive Commission District 1 Super Commission District 7. 284 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:17,100 I'm here today with one simple request and the flock contract. 285 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:21,240 This contract was put in place with zero public input or comment. 286 00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,100 Since we weren't asked in advance, I'll share our opinion now. 287 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:25,620 We hate the surveillance networks. 288 00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:29,860 It's easy to prove, just look at any article anywhere talking about flock. 289 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,800 You'll see it gets hundreds, thousands of comments, they're virtually all negative. 290 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:34,800 Why? 291 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,620 Because contrary to flock marketing claims, the system absolutely does crack everybody. 292 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,400 That is, it's basic design. 293 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,160 Anyone in this room who drives by a flock vehicle camera will have their vehicle recorded 294 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,100 in log and anyone who walks by a flock con-door camera will be recorded and logged themselves. 295 00:36:51,100 --> 00:37:02,220 It's not just one scan, but the fact that this info is then uploaded to a flock AI database which maintains a comprehensive record of everywhere you've gone and when and even who you're with. 296 00:37:02,580 --> 00:37:13,840 This isn't just a snapshot in time. It's hundreds of scans per month creating a comprehensive constantly updated map of your entire life accessible at any time by anyone with access to the system. 297 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:23,580 We know for a fact the system cracks innocent people, because dozens, if not hundreds of police officers nationwide, have been caught using the system to track innocent people. 298 00:37:23,980 --> 00:37:28,860 As I'm sure you all know, just a few weeks ago, eight the cab officers were caught illicitly using the system. 299 00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:34,600 week before that, it was a sheriff's deputy, make it Savannah Habersham Brazzleton, all over 300 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,580 Georgia and the U.S. the abuses are nonstop and they're only increasing. And it's 301 00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:43,680 not just illegal searches, numerous innocent people have been dragged out of their cars 302 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,980 at gunpoint or even jail because flock made mistakes. It's been used to target people for 303 00:37:48,980 --> 00:37:53,760 their political beliefs, which is terrifying because DeCab has deployed mobile flock units 304 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,120 to political protests. A whistleblower who used to work for flock has documented that surveillance 305 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,720 data has been shared with ICE for immigration enforcement even from departments that didn't 306 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:09,180 agree to that shared. The misuse of this dangerous and unregulated system is perhaps going 307 00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:13,960 to be the biggest police scandal in U.S. history if it's not already. The cab frankly can't 308 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:20,040 afford to lose any officers and I'm not here because I want them fire. I'm pro-police. Instead, 309 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:25,300 I want to see the system shut down not just to protect our citizens, but to avoid the obvious 310 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:30,060 temptation for otherwise good cops to commit serious crimes just because we've made it 311 00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:32,200 incredibly easy for them to do so. 312 00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:37,060 Oh, and on top of all that, FBI staff showed that over the past four years when Atlanta 313 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:41,800 installed war-flock cameras in anywhere else in the world, crime didn't even fall, in fact 314 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,220 it rose in some categories. 315 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,200 Flock wants you to focus on anecdotes, but serious policy has to be based on data and the data 316 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,340 show that flock isn't even helping solve crimes. 317 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,420 Over 100 municipalities have ended their flock contract after seeing for themselves the level 318 00:38:56,420 --> 00:39:00,620 of abuse, the lack of impact on crime statistics and the massive public opposition. 319 00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:05,140 I'm just asking the commission to do what all those cities and towns have already done. 320 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,440 Listen to their citizens, protect both the public and the officers of cab and terminate 321 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,240 the flock contract. 322 00:39:10,540 --> 00:39:11,180 Thank you. 323 00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:15,500 Lee Taylor, Lee Taylor, are you here? 324 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:16,520 All right, good morning. 325 00:39:18,220 --> 00:39:18,740 Good morning. 326 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,880 I'm Lee Taylor. 327 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,540 I'm at 1865 Mercedes Court, 328 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:27,700 and I'm here as a member of the Greater Towers Community Association. 329 00:39:29,220 --> 00:39:32,880 First things first, there are grants I understand. 330 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:34,220 There might be purbuteification. 331 00:39:34,460 --> 00:39:38,340 Once as it's urban area, security initiative, 332 00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:45,560 another for high intensity drug trafficking. If you could just take the microcosm of greater 333 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:52,680 towers community association in 303-2. If you want to apply some grant money and see it at work 334 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:59,180 with good stewardship, initiative, and some empowerment behind it, it's good place to start. 335 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:27,840 Kind of got the idea in my head was when I first heard in January, this year called the Glenwood Sweep, and I heard about it, sounded like it could be done as a multi-departmental, amazing effort to put rules and standards in place that might could be enforced over a period of time, sounded good, but as I understand here in August, there is no such thing right now as an active initiative for a Glenwood Sweep. 336 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:37,360 So, why a Glenwood sweet? Well, if it can be done empathetically for the people involved and done with some rules and standards for the commercial owners, 337 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,920 it seemed like a really good place to start into Cap County Glenwood. 338 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:51,080 I'll bring it back to a street in Medinale, part of the Greater Towers Community Association. 339 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,300 It's called Lark Spartares. 340 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400 It's two streets north of Blindwood. 341 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,900 And over a period of the past few months, 342 00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:02,300 there's been so many cases of vandalism, 343 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,820 so many cases of vagrancy, so many cases of squatting, 344 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,360 so many cases of gosh, we've had just terrible 345 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,320 reckless driving on that one little street, 346 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,120 including the loss of a male carrier 347 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,920 to a reckless driver in that street. 348 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,740 Now, all that grant money and all that sounds 349 00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:24,240 like a good thing to put in place and it might have stopped some crime, it might have stopped 350 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:30,080 something, but at least start, right, at least start and back up what you say you're going to do. 351 00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:37,920 So, I want to end this with a little bit about the worst residential neighbor in the country 352 00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:43,820 is a matter of fact, the worst residential neighbor in the cab county and their name is invitation homes. 353 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:50,280 In the past two years, they've sold over 400 houses in this county. 354 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,760 They sold off their inventory. 355 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,720 They've gotten rid of it, and they didn't in such a sloppy, disconnected way. 356 00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,600 They've just watched Price go down. 357 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,240 Their version of Price Discovery on a spreadsheet is the worst example of what neighbors are like. 358 00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:10,100 If something could be done at your level to bring them in the check, 359 00:42:10,460 --> 00:42:12,840 they've only got about 80 houses on the market left, 360 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,400 and I think they want to get rid of it all here in this county. 361 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,060 Let's do some about invitation homes to get a mile to hear as quick as possible. 362 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,240 Thank you, sir. 363 00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:22,540 Kia, I'm a more. 364 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,480 Good morning. My name is Kiana Jones, 365 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,120 more resident of district three, 366 00:42:33,340 --> 00:42:36,540 and I can care with the previous speaker regarding invitation homes. 367 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,280 I happen to live in one of their homes, 368 00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:42,860 and I've lived in one of their homes since they were ex-calibur homes, 369 00:42:42,860 --> 00:42:46,940 and they were the cause of a lot of 370 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:48,180 houseless neighbors. 371 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,900 Today, I have on two shirts, and the first one that I'm wearing on top 372 00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:57,140 is all about supporting our unhoused neighbors. 373 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,820 Our unhoused neighbors need services, not shackles. 374 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,420 They need community, not cages. 375 00:43:04,180 --> 00:43:07,260 And so I'm here to speak against the urban camping ordinance 376 00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:09,440 that has been introduced, because it is reckless. 377 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:16,440 it is compassionless, it's stupid, because people who don't have a place to live and make sure 378 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,860 you get my good side, because all of me is good, commissioner, Messiah, household for 379 00:43:20,860 --> 00:43:22,520 morking and mature view. 380 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,080 However, as I stated, we need community and not cages. 381 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,500 The services that we offer here in the cab county are not comprehensive enough to make sure that 382 00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:37,120 we completely remedy our issue of unhoused individuals. 383 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:51,380 We are making some strides. We need to do more. We need to really look holistically at how it is that we work with compassion with sympathy with empathy with people who don't have a place to live. 384 00:43:51,780 --> 00:44:05,260 Deciding to piggyback off of useless legislation introduced by the city of Atlanta because they want to capitulate to Trump is not governance. This is not legislation. It's not helpful for the community. 385 00:44:06,260 --> 00:44:13,540 Perhaps, if you had taken the time to really talk to people about issues of houselessness, 386 00:44:13,940 --> 00:44:20,540 what drives it, look at the root causes, and think about getting resources into communities 387 00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:25,080 that don't leave people without a home, you could have been doing that before you decided 388 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,740 to do your was that no, no, no, it's written a call, I got a note for you to go. 389 00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:37,440 It would have been so much more helpful if you had come along during the count that happens 390 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,860 early in the year when we go to hot spots where unhoused people are because you wouldn't 391 00:44:42,860 --> 00:44:43,620 there. 392 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,160 I was though. 393 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,600 You didn't know what people were dealing with. 394 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:56,920 Maybe you're too busy, black-handed, and given not money right now at the end look good before 395 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,920 the end of your time. 396 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,960 But this just wasn't 397 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:29,420 And I hate it to be a personal attack on you because it's not an attack on you as a person. It's about you as a commissioner, who is supposed to represent people, because a lot of the people who are unhoused are right in district three, it's disappointing and it's sad. And we want to see more. We want to see better. Without trying to deflect, put something on somebody else, talk about the deferral. 398 00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:33,940 introduced it and it just wasn't okay. Thank you, Ms. 399 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,380 John, don't worry. 400 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,820 Ms. Donaway, I believe she's not here today. 401 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,760 She's in the email telling that she wouldn't be here. 402 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:43,880 It's the next speaker. 403 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,240 Hannah Davis. 404 00:45:45,420 --> 00:45:46,420 Hannah Davis. 405 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,560 We're still on from last meeting, right? 406 00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:50,240 All right. 407 00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:51,120 I'll see you in the state. 408 00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:53,400 Richie and I've Roberts. 409 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,640 Richie and I've Roberts. 410 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,200 Do not see you then. 411 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,900 Stephen Benny, Mr. Benny. Good morning. 412 00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:21,050 Good morning, commissioners. Not so many years ago 413 00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:25,850 when evil blackhearted hawk flew over to Cab County and left the dark dark shadow 414 00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:32,330 over all of us. King Thurman welcomed the hawk. Listen to the hawk and made a landswap 415 00:46:32,330 --> 00:46:37,850 deal with the blackhearted hawk. After the landswap, the shadow was going to add more studio 416 00:46:37,850 --> 00:46:45,110 boxes to the land but then the movie industry faded away and in 2023 shadow box studios decided 417 00:46:45,110 --> 00:46:51,570 they wanted to build a data center instead without filing an official zoning request. They talked 418 00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:57,170 with planning about classifying data centers under communication use. They sent lobbyists from 419 00:46:57,170 --> 00:47:02,470 Texas to talk to two decayed county commissioners about how they could get this done without 420 00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:07,650 permission they started building their data center and now have filed a 30 million dollar lawsuit 421 00:47:07,850 --> 00:47:14,550 to bully the cab county into letting them do so. How did this happen? As always, let's follow the money. 422 00:47:15,110 --> 00:47:22,630 On March 31st, 2025, Shadowbox Studio gave a $1,000 contribution to Commissioner Robert Patrick. 423 00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:31,950 The address given for the donation was 335 Epington Drive. Remember this address, it will not be the last time you hear it. 424 00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:40,370 On February 26th, 2025, a Mr. John Bean from 335 that been to drive made a $3300 contribution 425 00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:48,310 to Mr. Patrick's campaign fund. Mr. Bean also made a contribution of $3300 on January 26th, 426 00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:55,570 2023, and the person named Julia Cruz well from 335 that been to drive made an additional contribution 427 00:47:55,570 --> 00:48:02,990 of $3,300, also on June 26, 2023, that there's $11,000 in list in two years. 428 00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:06,410 How much access does $11,000 allow someone? 429 00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:09,510 Shadowbox Studios is not even in your district. 430 00:48:10,070 --> 00:48:13,010 Happy to drive Northwest is not even into Camp County. 431 00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:19,730 Commissioner Marita Davis Johnson received a $3,300 campaign contribution from a Mr. 432 00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:29,810 John B. On May 20th, 2024. The address was 333 up in Dendrive. On May 22nd, 2024, an additional 433 00:48:29,810 --> 00:48:39,790 contribution of $258.32 was made by Mr. John B. How much access does $3,600 buy or do 434 00:48:39,790 --> 00:48:45,310 you just work cheaper than Mr. Patrick? Is Shadowbox studios in your district? How about 435 00:48:45,310 --> 00:48:51,450 step into drive, even Commissioner Nicole Messiah received the $3,300 campaign contribution 436 00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:59,110 for Mr. John Bean on October 8, 2024, followed by a contribution of $1,800 on November 437 00:48:59,110 --> 00:49:04,510 18, 2024 by the same person for a total of $1,500. 438 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:10,030 Seems as Ole Miss Messiah was playing both sides of the data center game with our favorite 439 00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:16,870 racist con man Ryan Milsef and shadow box studios and total that is nearly $20,000 a shadow box 440 00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:21,930 studios has contributed to three to cap kind of commissioners did they do this out of the goodness 441 00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:26,690 of the heart. Thank you, Mr. Benny. Mrs. Magnum. 442 00:49:27,810 --> 00:49:30,170 Mr. Siddigan, Mr. Magnum. 443 00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:33,650 Jean-Maine, good morning, Mr. Magnum. 444 00:49:37,230 --> 00:49:37,870 Well, 445 00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:55,900 good morning. Most members of the Board of Commissioners quickly commented on the unanimous decision to deny the data center text amendment as proposed in June. 446 00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:58,600 The question is, what happens next? 447 00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:59,960 Thankfully, that's... 448 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,400 It's not a hard decision to make. Our presiding officer, Commissioner Shakira Johnson stated, 449 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:13,160 I remain committed to working collaboratively, collaboratively toward policies that appropriately 450 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:20,000 balance economic development, technological advancement, neighborhood preservation, infrastructure 451 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,600 demands, and quality of life. Commissioner Long's fear said, this vote reflects the 452 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:32,780 their commitment to ensure that all decisions are guided by sound analysis, meaningful public 453 00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:38,540 input, and a clear understanding of the impacts of our communities. 454 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:45,340 Commissioner Baltimore, denying the text amendment brings several important benefits, a 455 00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:51,940 stronger case for extending the moratorium, a clean slate to restart the process with transparency 456 00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:54,260 and meaningful community input. 457 00:50:54,260 --> 00:51:10,140 An opportunity to explore other options allowing us to evaluate alternative approaches, gather additional data, and work collaboratively, toward a framework that better aligns with community priorities. 458 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,860 These are wonderful words, but actions speak louder than words. 459 00:51:15,860 --> 00:51:20,360 The data center moratorium has been extended until the end of next 460 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,620 March based on the need for more studies, and that's a good thing. 461 00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:26,520 Now the path is clear. 462 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,480 The Pets Committee deferred a vote again on the health and 463 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,780 environmental impact study because Commissioner Long's 464 00:51:35,780 --> 00:51:37,140 fears was not present. 465 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,660 Yet, she made a strong case for approval at the last 466 00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:43,320 regular BOC meeting. 467 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:50,240 Now I respect the fact that you wanted to wait for her, but I believe she made her position 468 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:51,740 clear at the last meeting. 469 00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:56,360 This item has been on the BOC agenda since last March. 470 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,180 We have sent a list of providers to BOC Chief of Staff as requested. 471 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,420 There is no reason for further delay. 472 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,960 It's time for the BOC to commission the study. 473 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:16,100 We must also defend the shadow box lawsuit to keep them a moratorium in place, but when interviewed Commissioner 474 00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:23,700 Messiah was already suggesting settlement, we say no. Defend the people, not the developers, 475 00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:27,760 stand by your decisions, and stand up for us. 476 00:52:30,050 --> 00:52:31,550 Thank you, ma'am. 477 00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:33,490 Jeremy's story. 478 00:52:33,630 --> 00:52:36,990 Jeremy's story is against that caused what today. 479 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:44,430 this is today's conference. Mr. Story, please come forward. Good morning. 480 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,080 Good morning everybody. 481 00:53:02,170 --> 00:53:07,190 Good morning everybody. My name is Tony Washington and I serve as the Fire Chief for the City of 482 00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:16,530 Decatur Fire Rescue Department. On behalf of the City of Decatur Mayor Tony Powers, we would like to thank you for honoring 483 00:53:16,530 --> 00:53:19,450 Captain Gary Monarch this morning. 484 00:53:20,290 --> 00:53:23,290 Captain Monarch represented compassion 485 00:53:23,290 --> 00:53:24,890 and his choice form. 486 00:53:25,390 --> 00:53:27,590 He led with kindness and treated everyone 487 00:53:27,590 --> 00:53:31,630 with respect and carried a deep concern for people 488 00:53:31,630 --> 00:53:33,310 and he served those. 489 00:53:33,730 --> 00:53:46,510 He served alongside his legacy will live on with the continued support. 490 00:53:46,530 --> 00:53:57,650 of Chief Melvin Carter, Director Fullham, the City of Decade of Fire Rescue and the programs 491 00:53:58,270 --> 00:53:59,850 that we have served. 492 00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:08,110 We deeply miss Captain Manard and I know he worked alongside of Commissioner Spears with 493 00:54:08,110 --> 00:54:11,650 the Unhoused in several community programs. 494 00:54:11,650 --> 00:54:23,110 He truly reminded us that command presence wasn't only leadership, but it was being 495 00:54:23,110 --> 00:54:28,670 present and being there for everyone. And we truly appreciate you honor and 496 00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:34,530 him. He just fell of well. It would have been his birthday on last Tuesday. And we 497 00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:39,430 really, really miss him. And we deeply appreciate all the partnerships with the 498 00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:47,730 County and city educator and honor and his memory and his legacy and his continued support. 499 00:54:47,790 --> 00:54:51,910 As we continue to serve everyone in the communities of the city 500 00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:54,910 indicator in the cab county. Thank you so much. 501 00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:58,660 Brim the pace. 502 00:54:59,080 --> 00:54:59,680 Thank you. 503 00:55:05,010 --> 00:55:34,990 Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Ms. Pooce. My name is Brenda Pays. I'm going to sit us in the tax pair and whatever you want to call it here in the cab county for 50 years, proud of, sometimes, not often, though. Okay, so many things I want to address need, I'm asking the commissioners in the CEO and anyone else to take a stop and look and listen. Okay, nothing is happening in South to cab outside of your public, everybody knows about it. 504 00:55:35,010 --> 00:55:44,570 of that. We need to look at how cold has to work with these businesses all up and down, 505 00:55:44,770 --> 00:55:52,410 can't of row, Glenwood, Memorial, everywhere. They're pieces of nothing. The cold just 506 00:55:52,410 --> 00:55:56,770 has to keep coming back, coming back. The courts are getting full, full with their documents, 507 00:55:57,130 --> 00:56:02,570 their documents with the same thing over and over. We need to look at taking business license 508 00:56:02,570 --> 00:56:08,370 from these businesses and it allows them to do businesses in the care county, especially in 509 00:56:08,370 --> 00:56:12,970 South Dakota, and then we can have some room in space to put something that would be a 510 00:56:12,970 --> 00:56:21,010 lot better economically in our community. Okay, we need to do this immediately. Okay, and I am 511 00:56:21,010 --> 00:56:29,490 pleading this case to the care county and the CEO, secondly, contractors. Contractors should not 512 00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:34,270 get in contracts and it's in the charter. If you haven't read the charter and I'm sure some 513 00:56:34,270 --> 00:56:40,750 of you haven't, okay? Read it because it says that when he cut body that gets a contract 514 00:56:40,750 --> 00:56:46,390 in the cab county, supposed to put 20% of the people that live in the cab county. You talk about 515 00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:51,050 the young men in our communities and the crime and everything. Well you tell me I have to work 516 00:56:51,050 --> 00:56:55,710 at McDonald's, I probably do the same thing, okay? For that little money and then when Georgia 517 00:56:55,710 --> 00:56:59,310 is only $7 per hour or less. 518 00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:00,150 OK. 519 00:57:00,910 --> 00:57:01,210 Five? 520 00:57:01,710 --> 00:57:02,590 Well, it's still in it. 521 00:57:02,930 --> 00:57:03,130 Whatever. 522 00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:05,050 It's seven isn't enough, OK? 523 00:57:05,650 --> 00:57:09,190 So we need to look at hiring, making these contractors 524 00:57:10,310 --> 00:57:13,450 hire, and train some of our men to do this. 525 00:57:13,450 --> 00:57:15,490 It happened once when Burrell Ellis was here. 526 00:57:15,650 --> 00:57:18,490 And I was the one who edited, and it happened, and it worked. 527 00:57:18,570 --> 00:57:20,150 And I don't want to hear anybody else, 528 00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:22,710 because I've already from up above CEO said it 529 00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:25,470 when I took it to her saying, oh, no. 530 00:57:25,470 --> 00:57:28,270 That won't work. I said, why won't it work?" 531 00:57:28,270 --> 00:57:30,950 And she said, because of the training, that's the crap. 532 00:57:31,590 --> 00:57:33,590 Okay? That's an excuse. Storage. 533 00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:40,230 Landlords and renders and relatives need to be made to pay 534 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:43,910 and put their peoples, their tenants, the whatever they're doing, 535 00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:48,790 in storage bins, and not on our streets where it gets stowed everywhere. 536 00:57:49,090 --> 00:57:52,030 Then you call and code and raise them hell, okay? 537 00:57:52,310 --> 00:57:54,250 That's not the good thing at all, okay? 538 00:57:54,250 --> 00:58:03,430 So you need to look at that Houston, they do that and it's very clean there. You're not allowed to dump people stuff on the street, that needs to be said. 539 00:58:04,670 --> 00:58:05,150 Secondly, 540 00:58:08,070 --> 00:58:11,230 somebody needs to look at the garbage collection again. Sanitate. 541 00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:12,890 Thank you, Ms. Page. Thank you. 542 00:58:13,130 --> 00:58:14,730 I'll catch you next time. Thank you. 543 00:58:15,350 --> 00:58:15,830 Thank you. 544 00:58:15,830 --> 00:58:16,110 Thank you. 545 00:58:16,490 --> 00:58:16,910 Thank you. 546 00:58:17,710 --> 00:58:18,350 Good morning. 547 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:22,820 Good morning. 548 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:23,460 Thank you. 549 00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:30,700 My name is Akila McDaniel, and I reside at 3823 Austin Park Lane, indicator for more than 550 00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:31,760 10 years. 551 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:38,160 I'm speaking in my personal capacity as a resident, a housing stability professional, a public 552 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,680 policy and real estate student, and someone would live experience in housing instability. 553 00:58:43,580 --> 00:58:52,100 I respectfully ask the board to defer ordinance 2026-05504 substantial revision and collaborative 554 00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:58,060 of stakeholder review. I recognize that the county has a legitimate responsibility to keep 555 00:58:58,060 --> 00:59:04,540 sidewalks, parks, businesses, and public infrastructure safe and accessible. However, we must 556 00:59:04,540 --> 00:59:09,680 distinguish between conduct that creates an actional public safety obstruction and the condition 557 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:14,240 of having nowhere else to go. Through my work supporting families, experience, and homelessness, 558 00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:19,780 my policy research and my only experience, I have learned that homelessness is not simply a matter 559 00:59:19,780 --> 00:59:26,440 of refusing services. People often face shelter shortages, coordinated entry, weightless, documentation 560 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:32,560 requirements, income verification barriers, limited affordable units, prior evictions, and 561 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:38,340 landlords unwilling to accept available assistance. A warning and verbal offer of services are 562 00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:43,980 not meaningful protections if transportation, appropriate shelter, storage or an actual housing 563 00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:50,740 pathway is unavailable. Refusing an option does not accommodate a family, that does not accommodate 564 00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:55,840 a family, their disability, unemployment schedule, belongings or other legitimate needs should 565 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,980 not automatically placed someone on a pathway towards a risk. 566 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,740 The proposed ordinance raised a serious implementation question. What written protocol will 567 01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:12,660 govern enforcement? What qualifies as a meaningful offer of services? How would a county verify that appropriate 568 01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:17,960 shelters actually even available? How would personal property, identification, medication, 569 01:00:18,260 --> 01:00:23,420 and documents protected and reclaimed? What agency will track these outcomes and assure that people 570 01:00:23,420 --> 01:00:29,140 are being connected to services rather than merely displaced to another location? These questions matter 571 01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:34,060 because losing identification and court documents, medication, or contact with the case manager 572 01:00:34,060 --> 01:00:37,520 can make an already difficult housing placement even more challenging. 573 01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:43,420 The county's previously adopted policy calls for diversion, coordinated assistance, 574 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,480 wraparound services, and alternatives to arrests. 575 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,860 This new ordinance to strengthen that commitment not create big and potentially contradict 576 01:00:51,860 --> 01:00:53,500 the rate enforcement practices. 577 01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:57,520 before adoption, I asked the board to require a written enforcement, 578 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,060 property storage protocols, documented service capacity, 579 01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:06,580 measurable diversion outcomes, and direct participation from service provider 580 01:01:06,580 --> 01:01:08,220 and residents would live experience. 581 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,420 I will welcome the opportunity to participate in a stakeholder review process 582 01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:15,420 and contribute both my leave and professional experience. 583 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,360 Please defer ordinance 20260550 until those protections 584 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:25,980 and accountability measures. I clearly minister establish. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. 585 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:32,400 Last card is Neville, like, teaser, metal, and teaser. There she is. Good morning. 586 01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:41,840 Good morning, Natalie Kaiser. I live in District 3. I'm a 12-year resident of DeCab County. 587 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:48,500 I'm here today representing House ATL and DeCab housing roundtable to similarly speak against 588 01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:55,140 the prior ordinance. Homelessness is a housing problem and not a failure of enforcement. 589 01:01:56,500 --> 01:02:01,280 Your prior resolution, we want to commend to approach homelessness through the housing 590 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:07,200 first approach and to work to develop a coordinated plan for the unhoused, those are proven 591 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:12,800 best practices. The current ordinance before you is not. It is inconsistent with that approach. 592 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:19,540 Rents and the CAB County have increased about 30% over the past five years much faster than income 593 01:02:19,540 --> 01:02:27,700 have grown, which is resulted in more than 50% of the CAB County Render's being housing cost burdened. 594 01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:36,160 Research from the U.S. Government Accountability Office shows that for every $100 increase in rent results in a 9% increase in homelessness. 595 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:41,860 To prevent homelessness, we need to stay focused on increasing housing opportunities and 596 01:02:41,860 --> 01:02:42,360 options. 597 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:48,200 Arresting and jailing people who are homeless for trying to survive can worsen rather 598 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:54,260 than solve unsheltered homelessness, arrest records create barriers to housing. 599 01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:02,720 The arrest as previously noted by the prior speaker, arrest also result in the loss of important 600 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:08,540 identification documents, social security cards, medical prescriptions, and this also makes 601 01:03:08,540 --> 01:03:10,500 finding future housing very difficult. 602 01:03:11,380 --> 01:03:17,400 Jailing people for being homeless waste taxpayer dollars, public costs are incurred when 603 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,160 law enforcement make the arrest and costs grow as the individual is incarcerated. 604 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,620 Cab County Sheriff Maddox has already told us that the cab county has already stated 605 01:03:27,620 --> 01:03:32,580 that the cab county commission that the jail is overcrowded, with few resources to address 606 01:03:32,580 --> 01:03:35,400 potential mental health and substance abuse issues. 607 01:03:36,020 --> 01:03:39,760 Tax funds are wasted without resulting in a long-term solution. 608 01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:43,520 The daily cost to house at the DeCab County Jails 609 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:50,560 approximately $1,150, or a monthly cost of $3,450 to $4,500. 610 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,020 This is less than the cost of a studio apartment into CAB County, 611 01:03:56,220 --> 01:04:00,300 which is approximately $1,400 to $1,500 a month. 612 01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:09,040 Once the person's time is served in jail, the individual is returned to the street, still in unhoused at a waste of taxpayer dollars. 613 01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:16,100 Nationally, the development of ordinances like this are being bankrolled by a tech billionaire named Joe Longstale, 614 01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:19,120 who created a think tank called the Cicero Institute. 615 01:04:19,580 --> 01:04:27,140 I think you should be aware that there are 10 plate ordinances being circulated around the country from the Cicero Institute. 616 01:04:27,140 --> 01:04:34,840 These ordinances encourage incarceration rather than housing and services, we should not be part of this handcuffs trend. 617 01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:37,160 I respectfully urge you to move forward. 618 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:38,300 Not backwards. 619 01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:39,640 Thank you. 620 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:39,920 Thank you. 621 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:50,380 Madam President Officer, I'd like to make a motion to extend public comment by 15 minutes. 622 01:04:50,380 --> 01:04:52,240 Is there a second? 623 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:53,480 Sorry. 624 01:04:55,770 --> 01:04:58,110 Would you like us to hit our buttons or show a hand? 625 01:04:58,550 --> 01:04:59,050 Alan Fayne? 626 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,540 I mean, more speakers, madam clerks, 627 01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:23,310 nine, for the nine speakers, nine, 628 01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:27,980 50 minutes, I refer to page 629 01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:32,640 agenda. There's a motion in a second. There's a motion was 15 minutes, is that correct? 630 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:40,860 Yes, ma'am. Call the question, all in favour of 15 minutes. All opposed to 15 minutes. 631 01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:45,260 These are all turning to emotion. 632 01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:51,450 Motion to extend public comment by 10 minutes. 633 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,260 We're now in the motion for 10 minutes. 634 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,340 And secondly, if I can mention our answer, 635 01:06:02,700 --> 01:06:04,620 we'll call the question. 636 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,460 Public favor with any public comment. 637 01:06:11,310 --> 01:06:14,920 That's the all opposed at this point. 638 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,800 Motion to extend public comment by two speakers. 639 01:06:27,140 --> 01:06:30,720 I'd like to make a substitute motion. 640 01:06:31,500 --> 01:06:36,780 Motion to begin working on our 42-page agenda. 641 01:06:45,860 --> 01:07:09,440 I just want to recognize that we had, so the issue with the limit of the public comment on is that not everyone was a speak and so then they get put to the next meeting and then people come to this meeting get delayed for the next meeting because the previous speakers we heard that we had four 642 01:07:10,540 --> 01:07:18,120 the last meeting, so the very least, I think we should just catch up, so if we could just 643 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:24,980 extend public comment, you know, for a few this time, maybe a few more next time, maybe we'll 644 01:07:24,980 --> 01:07:29,920 get caught up, maybe we need to amend our rules to allow a little more public comment, 645 01:07:30,220 --> 01:07:35,080 I don't know where are other jurisdictions that have unlimited comment, but others just 646 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:41,180 It's recognized that sometimes people, especially into cab where our public comments are at 9AM. 647 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:47,020 So some people probably got up work or maybe told their boss, I got an important 648 01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:50,040 to this morning, because I can't come to work or they have other responsibilities. 649 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:57,700 So out of respect for our tax paying citizens, our voters, the people who we represent, 650 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,080 they came down here to talk to us for three minutes. 651 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,680 We should give them a little extra time to do that. 652 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,860 We only come down here once a week. 653 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,160 All of us are paid by the people who are out there in the audience. 654 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,320 And the least we could do is create some time for them 655 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:19,600 to let us know what they're thinking. 656 01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:21,140 I think that's reasonable. 657 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,240 So hopefully we can just maybe have a few more speakers. 658 01:08:25,780 --> 01:08:27,440 I think two's reasonable for now. 659 01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:34,160 We don't have enough of those for 15 minutes or 10 minutes, but if we can just get maybe two more speakers, I think that'd be great. 660 01:08:34,540 --> 01:08:35,440 Thank you. 661 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,260 Mr. Walls, please. 662 01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:38,980 Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. 663 01:08:39,540 --> 01:08:47,160 It was brought to my attention during public comment that we had a speaker who attended the last business meeting, 664 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,940 submitted a card, and was not called today to speak. 665 01:08:51,940 --> 01:09:00,700 The error was discovered and the clerk quickly responded and added the speaker to the list so she did have an opportunity to speak. 666 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:17,560 So just wanted to point out to the commissioners that I don't know if anybody else in the audience submitted a speaker card last needy and you are not, you didn't have the opportunity last meeting or this meeting to speak, but I do believe that's an issue that we need to address. 667 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:35,920 Because I think that this is our opportunity for the public to communicate their concerns, their priorities with this board and to Commissioner Terry's point, we do only meet twice a month for a business meeting and offer that opportunity for public comment. 668 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:40,600 Now obviously during zoning meetings, we also have public comment opportunities as well. 669 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:52,360 But I do believe that this board does need to know that there was an error made, and a speaker from the last meeting was not called until we quickly discovered it during public comment today. 670 01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:58,560 Thank you Madam Clerk for resolving the issue and making sure this individual was able to speak. You'll back. 671 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,740 Thank you. I'm seeing no further requests to speak the alternative motion. Black Commissioner Patrick was to 672 01:10:06,740 --> 01:10:12,880 can not have its kind of kind of paraphrase. It was to not have the motion that 673 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,520 is residing office for which to begin. To what's speaking agenda, that was the motion. 674 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:24,460 Seconded by, I think it was dueling second. So it was Marida, David Johnson, and Nicole 675 01:10:24,460 --> 01:10:29,100 Messiah. So it's called the question, who is ready to start our business meeting. 676 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,100 who is against starting the business. 677 01:10:36,130 --> 01:10:37,270 That's the motion, sir. 678 01:10:37,670 --> 01:10:37,970 I'm sorry. 679 01:10:40,780 --> 01:10:41,720 Thank you so much. 680 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,900 Madam providing an officer and requesting a point of privilege, please. 681 01:10:46,380 --> 01:10:49,840 And I can tell you why, number of requests at the law department, please come forward. 682 01:10:50,820 --> 01:10:51,440 Sure, ma'am. 683 01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:52,620 Thank you. 684 01:10:54,260 --> 01:11:02,920 We had a decap County employee today request to speak during public comment 685 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:12,480 as her capacity as a resident, not as a staff member or an employee of the Board of Commissioners. 686 01:11:13,380 --> 01:11:23,320 I don't agree with the denial of her right to speak as a citizen of this community. 687 01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:30,020 So if our interim, which is a little longer, county attorney would please come forward and please 688 01:11:30,020 --> 01:11:37,960 finalness. If you are not comfortable providing a full analysis in our opinion today, it is 689 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:43,620 something I would request a memo on as well. But again, I fully believe that every single member 690 01:11:43,620 --> 01:11:49,820 of this community, whether you're an employee, current or past or future of the Cab County, 691 01:11:50,020 --> 01:11:56,060 is a resident and gets an opportunity to speak publicly to their decision makers. 692 01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:06,180 Thank you very much and can you do that before the next business meeting? 693 01:12:06,340 --> 01:12:08,480 We'll try to get it to you all before the next business. 694 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,720 Fantastic, thank you. 695 01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:10,800 Interim attorney Phillips. 696 01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:15,300 I would also like to know who denied that request because it did not come from the presenting officer. 697 01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:16,440 I would like to know that. 698 01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:17,320 Thank you. 699 01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:18,040 We see. 700 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:19,260 And commission. 701 01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:20,540 Would you want that publicly? 702 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,200 I'm fine with the public because it didn't come from me. 703 01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:24,940 It was just a stab actually. 704 01:12:24,940 --> 01:12:27,120 I did not come from you. 705 01:12:27,340 --> 01:12:29,080 If I may, I'd like to help us. 706 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:37,260 I received a request to look at public comment and participation by residents who happen to be employees 707 01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:43,860 and how it was denied today, the factual background and commissioners expressed. 708 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,340 We asked for a opinion about what our rules are on that. 709 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,380 So we will address that for you privately. 710 01:12:50,980 --> 01:12:55,500 and we can do a private or public and then if we could also look at the car and if 711 01:12:55,500 --> 01:13:00,260 she was speaking for herself or trying to circumvent a decision that was made earlier 712 01:13:00,260 --> 01:13:02,500 in the day that would be great too. Thank you. 713 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:03,840 In term of turning pillars. 714 01:13:04,220 --> 01:13:04,460 We see. 715 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:06,740 Commissioner Misai, you have requested to speak. 716 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,300 Are you considered your time commissioner long swears? 717 01:13:10,580 --> 01:13:13,000 Um, actually I could just expand on that briefly. 718 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,420 Um, so just to give a little context around it, 719 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:23,380 Captain Gary Minard was a personal, he passed away, but still is a personal friend of many 720 01:13:23,380 --> 01:13:24,860 of us in this room. 721 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,000 And so many folks from the cater came today to honor his memory. 722 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:34,580 His birthday was last week, and we miss him dearly, he did so much for the unhoused, so much 723 01:13:34,580 --> 01:13:36,740 for the residents of the city of the cater. 724 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:43,120 We did have myself who wanted a point of privilege, you did decline that, that was fine. 725 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:59,140 Prior to my requesting that, we did have an employee of the Cad County who also wanted to honor his memory, and that was denied by a member of a leadership member of the Board of Commissioners. 726 01:13:59,140 --> 01:14:08,800 Again, I fully state that every single resident of this county, whether you are currently 727 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:15,040 working for the Board of Commissioners or not, should have the opportunity to address 728 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,280 your leadership. 729 01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:24,660 And I just fundamentally disagree with this individual being denied the opportunity to express 730 01:14:24,660 --> 01:14:32,040 her thoughts to express her sorrow over the loss of a valued member of our community and 731 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,200 I yield back. 732 01:14:33,580 --> 01:14:36,080 Thank you so much, Madame Brio. 733 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:42,980 I just want to say that we've had employees, past, and present that have even gotten a chance 734 01:14:42,980 --> 01:14:44,380 to speak today. 735 01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:47,040 Ms. Moore is our Jones Moore. 736 01:14:47,340 --> 01:14:53,260 She is a past employee of the cab county and had an opportunity to speak today. 737 01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:59,960 So the idea that you don't allow, or a leadership does not allow, and play easy. 738 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:11,420 The speech is grossly false. Also, I will say that it makes it a little bit easier for us to get to our agenda and get to our work. 739 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:28,920 When there isn't political play where individuals send out emails, commissioners send out emails, with false narratives, without links to the agenda items, where people don't even sit and watch. 740 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,840 This is not your main to this data share. 741 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,140 It did not mean not to mean it. 742 01:15:33,140 --> 01:15:35,700 Actually with a rhyme going to do a point at order. 743 01:15:36,060 --> 01:15:39,780 We are not even on an agenda item to have discussion at this moment. 744 01:15:40,580 --> 01:15:43,580 We just say we were not going to allow the public to speak. 745 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,300 So why should I allow both of you commissioners to apply? 746 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,940 So if we can please start our public hearing and get to the business of the county, 747 01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,800 which is what we are here to do today. 748 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,440 Madam Clerk, if you please read in the instructions for the public hearing. 749 01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:01,400 Citizens 750 01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:14,320 may speak for, against an item that is considered by law to be a zoning ordinance and each side will have 10 minutes to present its case. 751 01:16:14,940 --> 01:16:21,720 Citizens may also speak for, against an item that is placed on a public hearing agenda, but it's not a zoning ordinance. 752 01:16:22,220 --> 01:16:26,000 In that case, each side will have five minutes to present its case. 753 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,300 In the end, there is more than one sticker per side. 754 01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:34,400 Stickers must divide their time in order to complete their full presentation within the 755 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,840 ten minute time-alotment or the five minute time-alotment. 756 01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:42,860 When the buzzer sounds to indicate that time has run out, the speaker would be expected to 757 01:16:42,860 --> 01:16:46,100 immediately see speaking at the Lithopodian area. 758 01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:51,180 Perhaps speaking, a sticker should complete a sticker for an representative when approaching 759 01:16:51,180 --> 01:16:51,760 the podium. 760 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:57,160 If the speaker has any documents for the commissioners, the speaker shall provide two copies 761 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,500 when approaching the podium. 762 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,780 Seven copies of the commissioners and the remaining copies of the plan and director, the 763 01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:08,760 county attorney and the clerk, and all zoning ordinance and traffic common cases. 764 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:14,500 Staff shall make their recommendation for action to the commissioners, followed by applicants 765 01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:17,040 of citizens speaking in favour of the item. 766 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:22,820 Applicants in zoning ordinance cases should have the right to deserve time for rebuttal. 767 01:17:23,140 --> 01:17:26,800 Opponents of the zoning ordinance, I'm sure I have no right of rebuttal. 768 01:17:27,420 --> 01:17:32,560 For all other items placed on the public hearing agenda, applicants are citizens speaking 769 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:37,260 and payment the items should speak first, followed by opponents of the item. 770 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,700 Whilst the citizens have finished speaking, staff should make a recommendation, 771 01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:44,880 recommendation for action to the commission. 772 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:51,020 At this point, citizens are no longer about to speak a miscloth to the podium by an individual 773 01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:54,520 commissioner to answer questions that provide information. 774 01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:59,800 Speakers should always talk to Beckley to the microphone and begin by stating their name, 775 01:18:00,060 --> 01:18:06,380 address, and the name of the New Organization, they represent a abusive, profaner to a language 776 01:18:06,380 --> 01:18:07,420 who will not be permitted. 777 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:13,940 Holding up signs, clapping, yelling, standing on lay in the aisles to show support for, 778 01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:26,800 opposition to a speaker will not be permitted, but a show of hands of Congress standing in place will be permitted to show support for a opposition to a speaker's decision. 779 01:18:27,820 --> 01:18:35,540 Thank you Madam Clerk. We have one item for public hearing. I will read that one and the next item is decision only and at that time I will pass the 780 01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:43,620 For the first item, it is 2026-0941, excuse me, all commission districts, homeroordinates 781 01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:49,960 to amend the pension code of the Cap County Georgia 1962, Georgia lost 3088, as a 782 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:55,060 minute, amended to add a death benefit for beneficiaries of certain plan participants 783 01:18:55,060 --> 01:19:00,440 who die in the line of duty as officers and police or deputies of the Cap County on 784 01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:06,960 after October 1st, 2026 to confirm that no participant can add replace or remove a designated 785 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:12,960 joint and new attempt after payment of pension benefits begins and to revive for compliance 786 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,800 with certain updates for two federal tax law. Good morning, sir. 787 01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:19,920 Good morning, Madam 788 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:26,720 Presiding Officer. This would be the second reading in final adoption and as you stated, 789 01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:29,780 Commissioners, this would cover all employees. 790 01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:31,960 They would become immediately eligible. 791 01:19:32,380 --> 01:19:34,540 Their family members and the event of a death, 792 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,240 an employee who dies on the job in the courts 793 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,380 and scope of their employment. 794 01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:42,320 It also provides a maximum pinching benefit 795 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,340 for the beneficiary at the time of their death. 796 01:19:45,340 --> 01:19:47,760 It does not require seven-year vessel. 797 01:19:48,140 --> 01:19:49,820 That's important to know. 798 01:19:50,460 --> 01:19:54,840 As you mentioned, it also adds a provision where you cannot 799 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,800 to join a militant after you retire, and that is specifically 800 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,100 We're delighted to fund more comments for the play. 801 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,440 And staff recommendation? 802 01:20:06,500 --> 01:20:07,820 Staff recommendation is to approve. 803 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,640 Thank you so much, and this is public hearing. 804 01:20:10,820 --> 01:20:14,280 Sir, is anyone in the audience who was here to speak in favor of this item? 805 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,220 Is there anyone in the audience to speak in favor of this item? 806 01:20:22,910 --> 01:20:26,630 Seeing no one, is there anyone here to speak in opposition of this item? 807 01:20:28,980 --> 01:20:31,840 Anyone in opposition of this item? 808 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,500 All right, Mr. Sir, if you will come back and give staff recommendation. 809 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,440 Thank you, Madam President Officer. 810 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,120 Recommendation to approve. 811 01:20:42,660 --> 01:20:43,640 Thank you, Attorney Johnson. 812 01:20:44,020 --> 01:20:51,680 Commissioners, I would just clarify it's a motion to approve the June 15th, 2026 version on setting 813 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:52,540 Green Day. 814 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,620 Thank you, is there a motion? 815 01:21:01,150 --> 01:21:06,590 Thank you, Madam President Officer. On behalf of the Earth Committee, I do move to approve 816 01:21:06,590 --> 01:21:10,290 the June 15th version on the second reading. 817 01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:11,850 Is there a second? 818 01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:12,590 Second. 819 01:21:13,250 --> 01:21:14,450 Thank you, future Booter. 820 01:21:15,230 --> 01:21:17,970 Commissioner Bolton, you have a request for the speaker before me? 821 01:21:18,450 --> 01:21:21,770 Yes, ma'am, I do just want to make sure we acknowledge 822 01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:25,430 considering some of the comments that were made earlier today 823 01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:28,730 with respect to the Decatur Chief Officer Rose, 824 01:21:28,730 --> 01:21:33,270 Firefighter Plant, those who were killed or did die 825 01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:40,690 the line of duty. This ordinance, this new ordinance was birthed out of some of those situations 826 01:21:40,690 --> 01:21:47,850 that had occurred this year. And we would be honored if to approve is to honor, but if the 827 01:21:47,850 --> 01:21:53,390 board would support moving this item forward, as we honor those that were honored this morning 828 01:21:53,390 --> 01:21:59,690 during public comment, and I yield back. Thank you, Commissioner Bolton. I see no further requests to 829 01:21:59,690 --> 01:22:01,550 Please open the machine for the vote. 830 01:22:09,690 --> 01:22:13,570 I want them sent in because Commission of Davis Johnson cannot vote on pension items. 831 01:22:14,170 --> 01:22:14,750 Motion carries. 832 01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:15,910 Thank you so much. 833 01:22:16,730 --> 01:22:19,910 At this time, I will pass the gavel for the next item. 834 01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:22,470 The next agenda item. 835 01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:24,210 And is it a decision only? 836 01:22:24,410 --> 01:22:25,490 Two zero cube six, 837 01:22:25,790 --> 01:22:32,730 two zero seven one two commission districts four and seven application are booted in Christ Academy LLC. 838 01:22:32,730 --> 01:22:39,750 care of Decita Strucks, Stokes, for a special land use permit for a child daycare facility 839 01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:46,390 for up to up to six children, and the R100 residential medium, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot 840 01:22:46,390 --> 01:22:54,410 of 70 district, at 67-06 Princeton Park Trail. Great morning, deputy planner. Good morning, 841 01:22:54,670 --> 01:23:00,050 commissioners, Rachel Bragg, deputy director of planning. So the applicant requests a 842 01:23:00,050 --> 01:23:05,630 to operate a daycare facility for up to six children with an existing single-family residence 843 01:23:05,630 --> 01:23:12,630 at 6706 Princeton Park Trail, which is owned R100. The proposed use is limited in scale 844 01:23:12,630 --> 01:23:20,150 and is proposed with an existing single-family residence and no expansion is proposed. However, 845 01:23:20,270 --> 01:23:25,910 the supplemental regulations regarding child daycare facilities within the zone in order 846 01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:31,550 state that no child day care facility shall be located within 1,000 feet of another child 847 01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:38,890 day care facility and staff has identified and existing child care facility within 300 feet 848 01:23:38,890 --> 01:23:44,010 of the subject property. Therefore, based on the submitted materials, interdepartmental comments, 849 01:23:44,430 --> 01:23:55,890 community meeting record and staff's finding that the proposed facility does not comply with 850 01:23:55,890 --> 01:24:06,770 I recommend to my all of this application. Thank you so much. Seeing this decision only there's not a public hearing element to it and we have a motion and a second. 851 01:24:06,810 --> 01:24:10,150 The motion is to for our full cycle deferral. 852 01:24:10,970 --> 01:24:16,790 Second, we have a proper first and second and a request to speak by Commissioner Bolton. 853 01:24:19,940 --> 01:24:25,000 Apologies, we'll just need to clarify that deferral, because we're already out of the cycle. 854 01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:33,220 So in order for it to go, so a full cycle generally means you're going to community council planning commission and the Board of Commissioners, 855 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,460 but the community councils for this cycle have already occurred. 856 01:24:37,260 --> 01:24:43,180 So it could go to, well, and the planning commission is set for September 1st. 857 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,160 So those staff reports and everything are already finalized. 858 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:47,900 So there's a type of free need here. 859 01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:49,580 My question is related to that. 860 01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:59,960 And my question is where was community council and planning commission made aware of the 300 feet distance prior to the... 861 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:14,280 There are recommendations for approval. So I think we found that we found that additional facility after community council, but prior to planning commission. So planning commission was a where community council was on aware. 862 01:25:14,820 --> 01:25:19,860 And I'm sorry, really quickly. Can you get a speaking time on the board just really briefly? 863 01:25:19,860 --> 01:25:23,200 Well, I haven't been acknowledged yet. 864 01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:28,720 I was just addressing what she was bringing up. 865 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,440 Just not again. 866 01:25:30,980 --> 01:25:31,560 But 867 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,500 I may not need to once you respond. 868 01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:39,800 You ready? 869 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,900 I think she's looking for it. 870 01:25:42,860 --> 01:25:43,580 So, yes. 871 01:25:43,740 --> 01:25:46,660 So, both Community Council and Planning Commission recommended the approval 872 01:25:46,660 --> 01:25:47,400 with conditions. 873 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,340 Community Council was unaware of the distance. 874 01:25:51,340 --> 01:25:54,700 issue plan and commission was aware of the decision. 875 01:25:56,160 --> 01:26:12,120 Okay, and one of the reasons I am supporting and I understand what you say, but prior to what you say, one of the reasons I was supporting a full cycle is to get that feedback from community council knowing that they were not made aware. 876 01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:24,240 So you could, if you want to give me if you want some options, you could sell send it back to community council, it would just be heard and October. 877 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:29,960 So it would go to Community Council in October and then come back to you for a vote in November. 878 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,660 So then would that technically be a two cycle for the firm? 879 01:26:35,220 --> 01:26:42,000 I would rather just refer to it as just as Community Council in October and Board of Commissioners in November. 880 01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:45,120 I will take that friendly amendment to my motion. 881 01:26:47,140 --> 01:26:48,580 Is your second still saying? 882 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,640 My second stands and I still had a question. 883 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,280 Another question. 884 01:26:54,060 --> 01:27:23,740 So my other question was, and this has occurred before, I think on the same agenda where there is a state approved facility within that thousand-foot difference or a thousand-foot radius, and because that happened with this application as well, I would like to take this time since we have that deferral to do some research to determine 885 01:27:23,740 --> 01:27:30,080 how they are state certified, but they're not approved through the county and how that impacts 886 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:39,600 our capacity to make a confirmatory decision based on that distance regulation in our code. 887 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:46,320 Because that's a major determining factor for both this and the other one, but I'd like us 888 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,460 to get a little bit more information about how that has occurred. 889 01:27:50,660 --> 01:27:54,200 So we can absolutely do some additional research. 890 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,100 I don't believe that the state requires local approval before they 891 01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:00,440 approve, essentially. 892 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:10,000 So with that being said, for me, the way our code reads, there might be a bit of ambiguity, 893 01:28:10,260 --> 01:28:16,160 because if they're not registered with the county, do we still consider them with respect to that 894 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,400 1,000-foot distance requirement. 895 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,780 Sure, so, because up to three, you know, we wouldn't normally know they existed. 896 01:28:25,980 --> 01:28:31,060 And with these, we didn't initially know they existed because they're not registered with 897 01:28:31,060 --> 01:28:31,560 the county. 898 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:32,980 It was happenstance. 899 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:34,960 So up to three, 900 01:28:49,660 --> 01:28:53,540 we'll take your deferral recommendation and do some additional research 901 01:28:53,540 --> 01:28:54,600 and follow back up with you. 902 01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,300 Okay, thank you so much. 903 01:28:56,620 --> 01:28:57,300 I'll go back. 904 01:28:57,860 --> 01:28:58,780 Thank you so much. 905 01:28:58,780 --> 01:29:01,620 Can we should have both in our any other questions? 906 01:29:03,180 --> 01:29:04,800 We open the machines up for a vote, please. 907 01:29:14,270 --> 01:29:15,690 That motion passes. 908 01:29:16,350 --> 01:29:18,370 Thank you so much. 909 01:29:18,610 --> 01:29:20,130 I appreciate your assistance on that. 910 01:29:20,990 --> 01:29:23,710 That concludes our public hearing and zoning items. 911 01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:27,810 We're now top of page four under there are no items under appeal. 912 01:29:28,010 --> 01:29:30,670 So we have a couple items under appointments, 913 01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:33,530 not requiring board action and for information only 914 01:29:33,530 --> 01:29:41,110 from Board of Commissioners item 2026-1240 from District 5 and item to record the appointment 915 01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:46,450 of Renee Kale to the DeCAP County Environmental Justice and Sustainability Resident Advisory 916 01:29:46,450 --> 01:29:52,810 Group as a District 5 appointee appointeded by Commissioner Marida Davis Johnson and then from 917 01:29:52,810 --> 01:29:59,770 the Chief Executive Office item 2026-1248 all Commission districts for Court Chief Executive 918 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,220 Sir Conquant Johnson's appointment of BJCurter to the environmental justice and sustainability resident review group for a four-year term. 919 01:30:10,330 --> 01:30:15,370 Item under item F, appointments requiring board action chief executive office. 920 01:30:15,970 --> 01:30:20,330 Item 2026-1127, excuse me. 921 01:30:20,530 --> 01:30:26,770 All Commission District's appointment shall be bishop to post two of the DeCab County Board of Family and Children Services. 922 01:30:26,770 --> 01:30:30,810 Thank you, Dr. Page 5. 923 01:30:31,070 --> 01:30:37,550 Item 2026-1128, all commission districts appoint April more to close five of the 924 01:30:37,550 --> 01:30:40,130 the CAB County Board of Family and Children Services. 925 01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:41,670 Move to action. 926 01:30:41,890 --> 01:30:51,010 Madame Pia, I've motion to approve agenda item in 1127 and that ending in 1128 as approved out of the 927 01:30:51,010 --> 01:30:51,550 Pecks Committee. 928 01:30:51,850 --> 01:30:53,190 Thank you so much. 929 01:30:53,370 --> 01:30:54,110 Is there a second? 930 01:30:56,110 --> 01:30:57,610 Thank you, sir. 931 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,700 Seeing our request to speak, please open the machine for the vote. 932 01:31:06,420 --> 01:31:07,300 Motion carries. 933 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:13,920 And then finally, I do in 2026-1196, All Commission to Extrace. 934 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:15,760 Districts, excuse me. 935 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:20,360 A point, Lanniface G. Eccles Esquire to pose four of the Metropolitan 936 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:25,240 Elana Rapid Transit Authority or Marta Border Directors. 937 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:26,740 Motion to approve. 938 01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:28,980 Thank you, is there a second? 939 01:31:29,220 --> 01:31:30,420 It's PWI item. 940 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:32,980 Thank you, Commissioner Chair. 941 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,540 Seeing now request to speak, please open the machine for the vote. 942 01:31:39,770 --> 01:31:40,490 Motion carries. 943 01:31:40,770 --> 01:31:41,690 Thank you. 944 01:31:42,030 --> 01:31:45,050 We are now on the consent agenda and we do have one item. 945 01:31:45,210 --> 01:31:47,230 We will be pulling, but are you ready? 946 01:31:47,670 --> 01:31:49,030 Madam deputy presiding officer? 947 01:31:49,150 --> 01:31:49,330 Yes. 948 01:31:49,390 --> 01:31:50,030 All ready? 949 01:31:50,510 --> 01:31:50,890 All right. 950 01:31:51,190 --> 01:31:55,070 Under airport, item 2026-1095. 951 01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:57,950 Commissioner District 1, Super District 6, 952 01:31:57,950 --> 01:32:02,950 standardized T-hanger space lease agreement with Marvin Solamini. 953 01:32:03,970 --> 01:32:05,290 There is no cost of accounting. 954 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:06,630 Mover action. 955 01:32:07,370 --> 01:32:12,750 Item 2026-1092 approval of minutes for the August 18th, 956 01:32:12,830 --> 01:32:14,790 2026 committee of the home meeting. 957 01:32:15,430 --> 01:32:16,050 Mover action. 958 01:32:16,630 --> 01:32:17,850 Top of page six. 959 01:32:18,050 --> 01:32:19,950 Item 2026-1239. 960 01:32:21,330 --> 01:32:23,710 All commission districts proposed confirmation of 961 01:32:23,710 --> 01:32:27,370 you fill up as the county attorney for the Cal County. 962 01:32:28,250 --> 01:32:28,810 Yeah. 963 01:32:28,810 --> 01:32:29,550 Low for action. 964 01:32:29,550 --> 01:32:30,390 Act, we vote. 965 01:32:30,630 --> 01:32:31,290 Then we're celebrating. 966 01:32:32,030 --> 01:32:37,870 Item 2026-0704 approval of minutes of the Board of Commissioners meeting from August 11th, 967 01:32:38,110 --> 01:32:38,730 2026. 968 01:32:39,310 --> 01:32:40,010 Low for action. 969 01:32:40,290 --> 01:32:44,990 And item 2026-1229, all commission districts, 970 01:32:45,290 --> 01:32:50,190 easement abandonment required as a component of the settlement agreement related to Carolyn 971 01:32:50,190 --> 01:32:57,050 round three versus the Cab County Georgia Civil Action number two three C V three nine zero one 972 01:32:57,050 --> 01:33:03,570 Superior Court of the Cab County as entered on March 12th, 2026. Move for action and with that 973 01:33:03,570 --> 01:33:11,510 Madam Presiding Officer, I move to approve items two zero two six one zero nine five two zero two six one 974 01:33:13,390 --> 01:33:21,210 092, 226, 1 2 3 9, 0704, and 1 2 2 9, and who's there a second? 975 01:33:22,310 --> 01:33:22,750 Second. 976 01:33:23,390 --> 01:33:24,270 Thank you so much. 977 01:33:24,430 --> 01:33:25,470 So you know, we're quite a speak. 978 01:33:25,710 --> 01:33:27,250 Please open the machine for the vote. 979 01:33:30,350 --> 01:33:31,550 Motion to approve carries. 980 01:33:51,220 --> 01:33:52,500 Thank you for the vote confidence. 981 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,680 There are so people that need to be acknowledged. 982 01:33:56,060 --> 01:33:56,720 A lot of work. 983 01:34:10,350 --> 01:34:11,670 We do acknowledge that. 984 01:34:11,670 --> 01:34:14,510 We see attorney Phillips in our meetings all the time 985 01:34:14,510 --> 01:34:16,750 and Attorney Welch and maybe Attorney Johnson, 986 01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:20,350 but we are well aware there's a full team supporting them 987 01:34:20,350 --> 01:34:22,210 behind the scenes, so it's great to see you all today. 988 01:34:22,530 --> 01:34:22,750 Thank you. 989 01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:25,650 And also our ad accounts of that come in and help us. 990 01:34:25,970 --> 01:34:26,010 Yes. 991 01:34:26,530 --> 01:34:28,070 It takes a lot to support us. 992 01:34:28,150 --> 01:34:29,470 We appreciate that. 993 01:34:30,270 --> 01:34:32,210 So we did have one item we had a poll 994 01:34:32,210 --> 01:34:34,870 from the consent agenda, so I'll read that now. 995 01:34:35,170 --> 01:34:39,990 Item 2026-0731, approval of minutes of the Board 996 01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:47,650 Commissioner Zoning meeting of August 13th, 2026, Madam Presiding Officer, I moved to 997 01:34:47,650 --> 01:34:56,890 defer item 2026 0731 to the September 15th meeting. Second, if you'll get your buttons for me. 998 01:35:00,430 --> 01:35:03,710 See you in our request to speak, please. Thank you. 999 01:35:03,790 --> 01:35:04,930 The voting is open. 1000 01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:08,800 Commissioner Terry. 1001 01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:12,700 Commissioner Davis Schutz. 1002 01:35:13,300 --> 01:35:16,220 Thank you so much. That deferral carries. Thank you. 1003 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:24,980 We are now bottom of page 6 under preliminary items, under fire and rescue services. 1004 01:35:25,220 --> 01:35:30,040 Item 2026-1246. Commission districts 2 and 6. 1005 01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:35,100 Intergovernmental Agreement with the City of Brookhaven to enter into a 50-year lease agreement. 1006 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:36,820 Move for action. 1007 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:47,200 I'm 26-1-247, Commission District 1, Super District 7, Intergovernmental Agreement with the City of Tucker, 1008 01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:55,460 to acquire a portion of land, lot 2-1-4 of approximately 1200 square feet at 4345 cow one road 1009 01:35:55,460 --> 01:36:01,460 for the sum of $58,000 paid to the Cap County move for action and with that 1010 01:36:01,460 --> 01:36:06,140 madam presiding officer on behalf of the herbs committee, I do move to approve 1011 01:36:06,140 --> 01:36:15,160 items 2026-1246 and 1247 for the motion in a second, Commissioner Long 1012 01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:16,980 Spears request to speak at the floor. 1013 01:36:17,620 --> 01:36:22,540 Thank you very much Madam presiding officer. I want to acknowledge this pertains to 1014 01:36:24,860 --> 01:36:33,020 226-1246. Again, I'll public safety director Follum, as well as our awesome relatively new 1015 01:36:33,020 --> 01:36:39,400 fire chief, but not new to the cab county. Zach Williams, the city of Brookhaven, and also Mayor 1016 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:45,680 Park for entertaining this opportunity to put a fire station right there in front of Black 1017 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:53,380 park. That is a hotspot area for calls and I truly am so hopeful that we'll be able 1018 01:36:53,380 --> 01:36:58,880 a point of order. Please allow me to finish. Madam Presiding Officer and commissioners, 1019 01:37:00,060 --> 01:37:05,100 we all need to farm today please. Thank you, Mr. Long Spears. I have the floor. I'm 1020 01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:11,180 continue, please. You do know the floor. Thank you. My clock was wobbless in time so if I require 1021 01:37:11,180 --> 01:37:16,980 extra time please roll it back. All right, so again I just want to thank all of the 1022 01:37:16,980 --> 01:37:17,960 point of order. 1023 01:37:20,140 --> 01:37:25,520 Thank you. I want to again thank everybody who came together and 1024 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:32,100 recognized the need for a fire station in that area. I proudly represent the 1025 01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:42,800 entire city of Brookhaven, a tiny itty beauty portion of the city of 1026 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:47,000 to, truly, at the end of the day, reduce response time and save lives. 1027 01:37:47,260 --> 01:37:50,920 So thank you very much to our public safety folks, Mr. Williams, 1028 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,240 Brookhaven, Madam CEO, and everybody else that supported this. 1029 01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:55,840 I yield back. 1030 01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:58,540 Thank you, Commissioner Longspirers, Commissioner Bolton. 1031 01:37:59,660 --> 01:38:04,840 Thank you, and I just wanted to acknowledge for both items 12, 46 and 12, 47. 1032 01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:07,760 Both of these will be fire stations. 1033 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:14,960 your class dollars at work and both Brookhaven and Tucker's so district super six and super 1034 01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,080 seven and just want to say thank you to the team for the work that you're doing and the 1035 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:25,340 community is very excited we've been receiving the emails and they do acknowledge the work that 1036 01:38:25,340 --> 01:38:30,420 all of you guys could in so thank you so much I yield back. Thank you commissioner Fulton. 1037 01:38:41,180 --> 01:38:41,740 I 1038 01:38:41,740 --> 01:38:44,960 purchasing and contracting items for the FAP Committee. 1039 01:38:45,740 --> 01:38:54,480 Item 2026-1195, change order number 1 to contract number 2, 0, 0, 0, 413 augmented procurement 1040 01:38:54,480 --> 01:39:00,740 staffing services for use by purchasing and contracting to obtain augmented procurement staff, 1041 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:06,040 seeking increase in contract funds and ratification of consent to assignment of contract 1042 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,780 to National Institute of Governmental Purchasing Incorporated, 1043 01:39:09,980 --> 01:39:13,440 effected July 1st, 2026 awarded to National Institute 1044 01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,800 of Governmental Purchasing Incorporated, 1045 01:39:15,860 --> 01:39:20,040 amount not to exceed 800,384 dollars. 1046 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:20,760 Move for action. 1047 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:21,600 Yes, sir. 1048 01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:31,320 Item 2026-1197, renewal of contract numbers 138-6107-138. 1049 01:39:32,940 --> 01:39:35,400 Uniforms for the Cap County Marshall's Office 1050 01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:40,940 for use by the Marshall's office of 10 uniforms for personnel, exercising second renewal 1051 01:39:40,940 --> 01:39:47,400 option with price increases through August 31st, 2027, and ratifying term increase, awarded 1052 01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:54,040 to Gaul's LLC in Dana's Safety Supply Incorporated, total amount not to exceed $340,000. 1053 01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:59,220 and move for action. Motion to defer. 1054 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:08,080 Item 1195, and 1197, to the September 15th, B.O.C. and they will be heard in that committee this afternoon. 1055 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,020 Second, if you'll hit your buttons, please. 1056 01:40:15,660 --> 01:40:18,520 There we are. All right. Thank you. I see no requests to speak. 1057 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:19,860 Thank you. 1058 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:27,440 Motion carries. We are now purchasing and contracting for the Ops Committee, top of page 8. 1059 01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:31,800 I had on 2026-1167 cooperative agreement, 1060 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,940 technology solutions, products, and services, 1061 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,900 free-spirited Department of Innovation and Technology 1062 01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:41,580 to obtain three years of managed security, monitoring services, 1063 01:40:42,140 --> 01:40:43,960 for the county's network infrastructure, 1064 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,400 awarded to MGT and PAC solutions LLC, 1065 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:52,840 amount not to exceed 1,755,900 dollars. 1066 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:53,700 move direction. 1067 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:55,100 Yes, ma'am. 1068 01:40:55,220 --> 01:41:01,520 Item 2026-1172 cooperative agreement, technology solutions, products and services, 1069 01:41:03,620 --> 01:41:03,820 for use 1070 01:41:03,820 --> 01:41:08,300 by the Department of Innovation and Technology to obtain three years of advanced monitoring 1071 01:41:08,300 --> 01:41:14,700 services for the county's network infrastructure, awarded to NGT and Pax Solutions LLC, 1072 01:41:15,480 --> 01:41:20,540 amount not to exceed $542,000, $87 and $60,000. 1073 01:41:20,540 --> 01:41:28,800 I have a little fraction. I make a motion that 1167 and 1172. 1074 01:41:30,020 --> 01:41:33,240 There's a proof that the outcome may be. 1075 01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:34,360 Second. 1076 01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,720 We'll motion on a second. No requests to speak. Please open the machine. 1077 01:41:43,310 --> 01:41:46,410 I have a motion to approve carries. Thank you. 1078 01:41:46,910 --> 01:41:52,050 We're now bottom of page 8 under purchasing and contracting for the PX committee. 1079 01:41:52,050 --> 01:42:01,290 Item 2026-0915 cooperative agreement open-air structures was related equipment and services, 1080 01:42:01,870 --> 01:42:05,970 freeze-high recreation parks and cultural affairs, obtained a viewing platform pavilion, 1081 01:42:06,770 --> 01:42:12,330 or to rom-tech ink, I'm not allowed to exceed 178,450 dollars. 1082 01:42:18,890 --> 01:42:20,370 Thank you, sir. 1083 01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:20,950 Second, 1084 01:42:23,260 --> 01:42:24,940 thank you, Second Long Spears. 1085 01:42:25,580 --> 01:42:27,720 Seeing you now requests to speak for the rehearsal. 1086 01:42:33,260 --> 01:42:43,580 For our Paris, Top of Page 9 I'm on 2021- glorification number 2026-042. 1087 01:42:43,580 --> 01:42:49,980 ITB, newses, subatement, and remediation services for use by the Department of Co-compliance and 1088 01:42:49,980 --> 01:42:55,160 enforcement, their team services reduced flight in the county, including a statement of vacant 1089 01:42:55,160 --> 01:43:00,380 and abandoned properties, recommended award to the overall lowest responsive and responsible 1090 01:43:00,380 --> 01:43:07,620 bidders, cast-caves services ink and executive-relate solutions ink, amount not to exceed $450,000. 1091 01:43:08,940 --> 01:43:12,500 Most of the units in 1915 via CPD and the Saturday X. 1092 01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:13,280 Thank you. 1093 01:43:13,900 --> 01:43:15,580 Thank you Commissioner Long Spears. 1094 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:17,360 Please open the machine for the vote. 1095 01:43:20,970 --> 01:43:21,590 Most of the Senators. 1096 01:43:22,890 --> 01:43:24,670 Medal of Top Gplace. 1097 01:43:25,310 --> 01:43:27,930 Ensign, purchasing and contracting for the PWR committee. 1098 01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:31,330 I'm twenty twenty six- zero seven six- seven. 1099 01:43:31,450 --> 01:43:36,090 Change order number three to contract number one two eight one three one eight 1100 01:43:36,090 --> 01:43:40,310 and change order number six to contract number one two eight one three one nine 1101 01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:42,310 sidewalks and roadways, 1102 01:43:42,490 --> 01:43:44,470 freezed by public work transportation roads 1103 01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:47,090 and drainage and recreation parks and cultural affairs 1104 01:43:47,090 --> 01:43:49,030 to obtain construction services 1105 01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:51,350 to improve sidewalks, drainage roads, 1106 01:43:51,790 --> 01:43:55,390 bike lanes, multi-use trails, and curb and shoulders 1107 01:43:55,390 --> 01:43:57,570 seeking increased and contract funds 1108 01:43:57,570 --> 01:43:59,850 in term through December 31st, 1109 01:43:59,910 --> 01:44:02,870 2027 awarded to AutoCode Development LLC 1110 01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:05,650 and DAF Concrete Inc. 1111 01:44:05,650 --> 01:44:09,710 total amount not to exceed two million one hundred sixty five thousand dollars. 1112 01:44:10,730 --> 01:44:12,390 Madam President Officer, move for action. 1113 01:44:12,810 --> 01:44:13,390 Thank you sir. 1114 01:44:13,970 --> 01:44:16,950 I don't twenty twenty six to have zero nine three nine. 1115 01:44:17,110 --> 01:44:20,830 Renewal contract number two zero zero zero four two zero. 1116 01:44:21,650 --> 01:44:26,570 Curved bumping in street sleeping for ease by public work solid waste management and beautification. 1117 01:44:27,450 --> 01:44:30,730 To obtain curb bumping in street sleeping services throughout the county. 1118 01:44:30,730 --> 01:44:40,510 Exercising First Renewal Option through August 3, 2021, a warrant to pay co-services LLC and mount not to exceed $120,000. 1119 01:44:41,710 --> 01:44:52,350 We've for action, Metapresiding Officer, I make a motion to approve 2026-070767 and 2026-0939 as approved at PWA. 1120 01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:53,590 Thank you. 1121 01:44:54,190 --> 01:44:56,090 Second important mission of Terry, thank you. 1122 01:44:56,630 --> 01:44:57,530 Please open the scene. 1123 01:45:03,630 --> 01:45:14,090 Motion to approve carries. There is now just kind of the substitute for the next item around top of page 10. Item 2026-1-010. 1124 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:22,930 Change order number 3 to contract number 2-0-0-0167 CNG fueling station maintenance and repairs. 1125 01:45:22,930 --> 01:45:25,730 for use by public work, salt waste management, 1126 01:45:25,890 --> 01:45:29,250 to obtain routine and on-call repair and maintenance services 1127 01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:32,170 through the compressed natural gas fueling stations 1128 01:45:32,170 --> 01:45:33,490 throughout the county, 1129 01:45:33,810 --> 01:45:35,390 seeking increase in contract funds 1130 01:45:35,390 --> 01:45:38,110 in term through November 30th, 2027, 1131 01:45:38,850 --> 01:45:40,770 awarded to a Lana Gas Light Company, 1132 01:45:41,010 --> 01:45:42,990 amount not to exceed $200,000. 1133 01:45:44,030 --> 01:45:44,810 At a presiding officer, 1134 01:45:44,910 --> 01:45:48,290 they commotion to approve the substitute for gender item, 1135 01:45:48,410 --> 01:45:51,970 2026-1010, and I'd also like to invite staff 1136 01:45:51,970 --> 01:45:54,010 to just do that once we have a second. 1137 01:45:54,750 --> 01:45:56,230 Good morning, commissioners. 1138 01:45:56,770 --> 01:45:57,650 The substitute one is second. 1139 01:45:58,110 --> 01:45:58,350 Second. 1140 01:45:58,750 --> 01:45:59,390 First please, please. 1141 01:46:00,250 --> 01:46:01,090 OK, go ahead and explore. 1142 01:46:01,790 --> 01:46:03,970 The substitute you have in front of you 1143 01:46:03,970 --> 01:46:07,170 is updating the commission districts that were affected 1144 01:46:07,170 --> 01:46:09,470 as was discussed in DWI. 1145 01:46:09,690 --> 01:46:11,050 All right, thank you, very much. 1146 01:46:11,670 --> 01:46:12,190 Thank you. 1147 01:46:12,930 --> 01:46:14,990 All right, seeing another request to speak, please, 1148 01:46:15,050 --> 01:46:16,290 open the machine for the vote. 1149 01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:22,280 Motion to approve carries. 1150 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:31,040 I am 26-103-0, invitation number 2025-167 ITB, 1151 01:46:31,580 --> 01:46:37,380 Seminal Road in SW landfill, 2026 gas collection and control system expansion. 1152 01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,100 Fees by public works, it's all at waste management, 1153 01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:44,480 obtained construction services for the expansion of the GECCS. 1154 01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:50,500 At the Sinole World Landfill, recommend award to the lowest responsive and responsible bidder. 1155 01:46:50,820 --> 01:46:58,840 Blue Flame crew LLC, a Mount Nothick C, 2 million 397, 297, 7,297 dollars. 1156 01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:00,700 Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. 1157 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,360 Motion to Approve, 2020, 6, 10, 30. 1158 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:05,480 Thank you. 1159 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:06,900 Second. 1160 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,620 Seconded by Commissioner Terry, you've ever requested a speech, sir. 1161 01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:10,140 You have four. 1162 01:47:10,580 --> 01:47:12,080 Yes, very quickly. 1163 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:18,240 We just wanted to acknowledge at the PWI committee meeting we discussed with CEO Williams about 1164 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:24,980 getting him update on the other contract for managing the existing renewable energy. 1165 01:47:25,340 --> 01:47:28,440 So I think did you say it was going to come back on October with that? 1166 01:47:28,620 --> 01:47:29,760 It was a timeline on that update. 1167 01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,500 I believe that was exciting. 1168 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:39,240 I believe October was our commitment, but we would work with the Chair of PWI and we're looking 1169 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:44,400 to do a really comprehensive discussion on how we're managing the methane and how it felt 1170 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:45,140 landfill. 1171 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:54,120 And then, just remind me again, because we proved that contract was at three years ago 1172 01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:54,980 at this point. 1173 01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:01,340 So hopefully, when we come back October, we could have kind of, I don't know if it's like a 1174 01:48:01,340 --> 01:48:02,480 go or no go decision. 1175 01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:03,980 We certainly have a status point. 1176 01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:09,220 Because I know that the contract, I guess, I don't think it's extended or how 1177 01:48:09,220 --> 01:48:14,740 we manage that, but at some point, if we're not collecting the gas, we're sort of missing out 1178 01:48:14,740 --> 01:48:16,460 on millions of dollars of revenue. 1179 01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:21,240 If you're speaking about the renewable energy facility, but we have a couple of contracts, 1180 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,500 and we'll be on your stress, all of them. 1181 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:24,380 Yeah, that's right. 1182 01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:24,720 Okay. 1183 01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:25,500 Thank you. 1184 01:48:25,620 --> 01:48:26,940 Thank you, Commissioner Terry. 1185 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:29,540 Please open the machine for the vote. 1186 01:48:29,540 --> 01:48:30,800 into 1187 01:48:36,270 --> 01:48:37,250 approve carries. 1188 01:48:37,790 --> 01:48:45,090 At on 2026-1066, Commission District 3 Super District 7 requests for qualifications, 1189 01:48:45,570 --> 01:48:53,730 2025-113, RFQ Design Services for Flectuals Parkway, SA155, sidewalk from Columbia 1190 01:48:53,730 --> 01:49:03,050 Drive to Wesley Chapel Road, PI-001-9622, freeze-by-poord, public works transportation to obtain 1191 01:49:03,050 --> 01:49:08,950 design services for the addition of 2.1 miles of new sidewalks on both sides of Fashos Parkway 1192 01:49:08,950 --> 01:49:14,310 to create a continuous sidewalks. Meet current ADA standards and installation of a protected 1193 01:49:14,310 --> 01:49:19,030 predecessor and crossing recommend a war to the highest scoring proposal at Ken's Real 1194 01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:26,170 US USA Inc. I'm not not too exceed 3,210,410 dollars and 84 cents. 1195 01:49:27,110 --> 01:49:32,270 Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. Motion to defer this item until the September 15 BOC 1196 01:49:32,270 --> 01:49:40,770 with a prior stop at PWI. And I'm just adding for record, this is being deferred because it's over $3 million, and we're waiting for Mr. 1197 01:49:40,970 --> 01:49:43,930 Labwaw Campbell's team to come back with the audit review. 1198 01:49:44,610 --> 01:49:50,470 All right, Commissioner Terry has seconded. Thank you. So you know, we're plus to speak, please open the machine for your vote. 1199 01:49:54,490 --> 01:49:59,970 Motion to defer. Terry's top of page 11. Adam 2026-111. 1200 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:10,920 1, 4, Commission District 5, invitation, number 2026-058, application of herbicides at full-graduates Water Treatment Plan. 1201 01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:20,260 For use by Department of Water Shared Management, excuse me, to obtain herbicide and application services at the full-graduates Water Treatment Plan. 1202 01:50:20,260 --> 01:50:23,600 Recommend awards, the lowest responsive and responsible bidders, 1203 01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:27,340 opt for a solution's ink and pro-weight turf ink, 1204 01:50:27,540 --> 01:50:29,720 to a amount not to exceed $300,000. 1205 01:50:30,220 --> 01:50:31,480 Move-Rex. Yes, sir. 1206 01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,020 Item 2026-1177. 1207 01:50:36,440 --> 01:50:39,760 Coactive of agreement, grounds maintenance, equipment, and related attachments 1208 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:43,340 for use by public works fleet management, to be used by a 1209 01:50:43,340 --> 01:50:47,300 beautification to obtain six kabuda mowers with attachments 1210 01:50:47,300 --> 01:50:53,720 of water to kapuda, tractor court, care of last leak, tractor sales, amount not to exceed 1211 01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,220 169,000, 375, and 56. 1212 01:50:57,860 --> 01:50:58,760 Move for action. 1213 01:50:59,540 --> 01:51:08,560 If sir item 2026-1153, change order number 2 to contract number 138-1109, design bill services 1214 01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:15,420 for snap finger advanced wastewater treatment facility, expansion phase 3 being project, for 1215 01:51:15,420 --> 01:51:17,480 used by the Department of Watershed Management 1216 01:51:17,480 --> 01:51:19,860 to obtain design services, furnishing, 1217 01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,620 permitting, and constructing a V-E-System, 1218 01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,100 seeking to increase contract scope of work, 1219 01:51:25,180 --> 01:51:27,040 funding, and performance time, 1220 01:51:27,260 --> 01:51:29,060 awarded to Morgan Contracting Inc. 1221 01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:34,220 amount not to exceed 394,309 dollars and 31 cents. 1222 01:51:35,620 --> 01:51:37,020 Move for action, Madam Presiding Officer, 1223 01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,520 like to make a motion to approve the following items. 1224 01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:48,920 I am 2026-1114, 1117, and 1153, and then I also want to make note that we did have some 1225 01:51:48,920 --> 01:52:00,280 conversation at PWI, about 114. There was some discussion on the hate as well as the herbicides 1226 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:07,860 and reminder to central staff as well as to the chief executive that we'd like to have this 1227 01:52:07,860 --> 01:52:12,840 discussion back at PWI so that we can address some of the questions that were raised during the meeting. 1228 01:52:13,340 --> 01:52:13,780 Thank you, Sarah. 1229 01:52:13,980 --> 01:52:16,940 Commissioner Charry has seconded and requested to speak here before. 1230 01:52:17,500 --> 01:52:21,400 Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, Commissioner Patrick is correct. 1231 01:52:21,820 --> 01:52:37,840 We did discuss the herbicide treatment, but I think it also ended up the conversation about having a tour of a 1232 01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:44,480 the most to your district. It is a countywide facility, but a really special place and quite beautiful 1233 01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:52,680 actually with 300 acres of grassland. I think another 200 acres of forest buffer. So I appreciate 1234 01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:57,440 that Mr. Chair. And then I did want to just in case anyone from the public was following along. 1235 01:52:58,380 --> 01:53:03,940 The agenda hadn't been updated from the special call meeting. So it says they were recommended for 1236 01:53:03,940 --> 01:53:07,880 holding, but we did record an approval, as you said, so especially for meeting held yesterday. 1237 01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:08,580 Yes, sir. 1238 01:53:08,860 --> 01:53:09,080 Yes. 1239 01:53:09,500 --> 01:53:10,720 Thank you. 1240 01:53:10,740 --> 01:53:11,300 Thank you. 1241 01:53:12,060 --> 01:53:13,080 Commissioner Bolton. 1242 01:53:13,860 --> 01:53:19,640 I just want to re-emphasize Commissioner Terry did remind us all that that's five 1243 01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:22,860 in seven, four, eleven, fourteen, five, and seven. 1244 01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:23,300 Thank you. 1245 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:24,120 Thank you. 1246 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:24,240 Thank you. 1247 01:53:24,860 --> 01:53:26,160 All right. 1248 01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:27,700 No other requests to speak, please. 1249 01:53:27,700 --> 01:53:29,100 of the machine for the 1250 01:53:33,170 --> 01:53:35,470 motion to approve those items carries. 1251 01:53:36,050 --> 01:53:37,790 We're now top of page 12. 1252 01:53:38,890 --> 01:53:44,770 Item 2026-1165, invocation number 2026-004, 1253 01:53:45,610 --> 01:53:47,490 a small-to-configure, pavement repair, 1254 01:53:47,770 --> 01:53:50,230 freeze-five departments of watershed management, 1255 01:53:50,610 --> 01:53:51,930 recreation, parks, cultural affairs, 1256 01:53:52,170 --> 01:53:54,730 and facilities management, and public works 1257 01:53:54,730 --> 01:53:56,450 rolling drainage, recommend a war 1258 01:53:56,450 --> 01:53:58,870 to the lowest responses in our responsible bidders, 1259 01:53:58,870 --> 01:54:06,670 and S. P. V. E. and Otico Development E to all amount not to exceed 15,850,000 dollars. 1260 01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:09,050 Thank you, Madam President Officer. 1261 01:54:09,890 --> 01:54:14,530 Motion to defer to the September 15 V. O.C. with a prior stop at PWI. 1262 01:54:14,850 --> 01:54:18,650 This is an item as you call that well over $3 million. 1263 01:54:19,430 --> 01:54:22,930 And this is something we're waiting for Mr. Campbell's office to give us 1264 01:54:22,930 --> 01:54:23,570 at his recommendation. 1265 01:54:24,590 --> 01:54:26,370 Thank you, Commissioner Patrick. 1266 01:54:26,370 --> 01:54:30,850 Commissioner Terry is seconded. Please open the screen for the vote. 1267 01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:36,660 Motion to defer carries 1268 01:54:36,660 --> 01:54:45,600 I'm 2026-1168 change order number one to contract number two zero zero zero two to two 1269 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:54,020 roadway fault the icing for use by public works roads and drainage which consists of the purchase of the icing materials to make the sand salt 1270 01:54:54,020 --> 01:54:58,340 Make sure you use to maintain the county's roadways parking lots and sidewalks 1271 01:54:58,600 --> 01:54:59,360 See you next time. 1272 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,400 Ending increase in contract funds, awarded to FM Shelton Inc., amount not to exceed $100,000. 1273 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,260 Move for action. Yes, sir. 1274 01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:18,220 Item 2026-1174, Kahula Project Management Information System, Governments and Optimization, 1275 01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:22,980 for use by the Department of Watershed Management to obtain advisory consulting services 1276 01:55:22,980 --> 01:55:30,560 for the implementation of Ernest and Effective Delivery of Kuhua PMIS awarded to S.G. contracting 1277 01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:34,000 ink and map not to exceed $400,800. 1278 01:55:35,020 --> 01:55:35,840 Move for action. 1279 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:47,340 Item 2026-1187 invitation number 2026-057ITV, fill verification and reporting of public and private 1280 01:55:47,340 --> 01:55:52,360 service lines for use by the Department of Watershed Management to obtain services to verify 1281 01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:57,440 and report ingress and address waterline materials recommend a war to the lowest 1282 01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,460 responsive and responsible bear, integrated construction management 1283 01:56:01,460 --> 01:56:06,500 e-moutmout to AC, 1,263,625. 1284 01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:11,720 Moving for action, I'd like to make a motion to approve the following items, 1285 01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:18,480 2026-1168, 1174 and 1187 as approved in Connecticut. 1286 01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:20,460 Thank you so much, is there a second? 1287 01:56:20,460 --> 01:56:26,510 Thank you, Commissioner Terry. No requests to speak. Please open a screen for a vote. 1288 01:56:30,650 --> 01:56:35,250 Motion to approve carries. We are now top of page, middle of page 13. 1289 01:56:36,170 --> 01:56:41,050 Under recreation parks and cultural affairs, item 2026-1228. 1290 01:56:41,610 --> 01:56:48,530 All commission districts approve the 2026-2027 agreement with the Caret County School Nutrition Services 1291 01:56:48,530 --> 01:56:57,830 for $76, 140 dollars to furnish after school snacks with the Department of Recreation Parks and Cultural Affairs, and this is a PEX item. 1292 01:56:59,190 --> 01:57:03,650 Motion to defer to the September 15th BSE to be heard in PEX. 1293 01:57:04,390 --> 01:57:08,250 Second, each of button commissioner wants to be heard. 1294 01:57:08,550 --> 01:57:11,830 Thank you so much. Please open machine for vote to 1295 01:57:16,820 --> 01:57:17,780 defer carries. 1296 01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:22,520 Under watershed management, I don't need 26-1173 1297 01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:27,400 commission district one super district six six water utility installation for 1298 01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:32,060 upclone and upcoming city of Dunwoody project costs to the county not to 1299 01:57:32,060 --> 01:57:39,380 exceed 2,894,225 dollars. Motion to approve. 1300 01:57:42,690 --> 01:57:44,230 Seconded by Commissioner Terry 1301 01:57:44,230 --> 01:57:47,250 seeing a request to speak is open machine for the low 1302 01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:52,270 and to approve carries. 1303 01:57:53,110 --> 01:57:57,810 Item 2026-1183 all commission districts United States 1304 01:57:57,810 --> 01:58:00,110 a logical survey five year agreement. 1305 01:58:02,430 --> 01:58:07,750 Yes, motion to defer to the September 15 B of C with a prior stop at PWA. 1306 01:58:09,660 --> 01:58:10,320 Thank you, sir. 1307 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:11,740 Second please. 1308 01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:13,300 Thank you. 1309 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:17,500 Before we vote, if I remember Mr. Chair on this item, there is a dollar amount over 1310 01:58:17,500 --> 01:58:19,040 the three million for the county. 1311 01:58:20,620 --> 01:58:21,060 Yes. 1312 01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,180 If we could get the dollar amount in the title, that would be helpful. 1313 01:58:26,130 --> 01:58:28,090 If we open the tune for the vote, 1314 01:58:33,070 --> 01:58:34,550 motion to defer carries. 1315 01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:56,950 And then we are now on top of page 14, item for items for decision by the board, kind of board of commissioners, item 2026-1234, all commission district to amend previously adopted agenda, item 2025-0240 with an updated resolution to establish independence, the IP Monitor roles and responsibilities. 1316 01:58:59,230 --> 01:59:02,510 Yes, for purposes of discussion motion to approve. 1317 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:09,100 Seconded by Commissioner Terry and that was motion to approve. 1318 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:10,180 That's correct. 1319 01:59:14,430 --> 01:59:15,670 You hit your button to request this. 1320 01:59:16,150 --> 01:59:17,170 Thank you. 1321 01:59:17,870 --> 01:59:19,310 Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. 1322 01:59:19,690 --> 01:59:22,770 So we had a discussion yesterday about the CIP monitor. 1323 01:59:22,970 --> 01:59:29,410 Of course this is a position or a person that would come in and provide independent advice. 1324 01:59:29,490 --> 01:59:36,050 I think is the right way to frame it of what's happening with the CIP projects. 1325 01:59:36,050 --> 01:59:38,990 and this relates to water and sewer and particular at this time. 1326 01:59:40,110 --> 01:59:41,430 I think there was a good discussion. 1327 01:59:41,790 --> 01:59:43,710 Unfortunately, Commissioner Terry left it a little bit early, 1328 01:59:44,150 --> 01:59:47,530 so I could suggest it at the meeting that because it was only two commissioners. 1329 01:59:47,690 --> 01:59:50,910 Myself in the presiding officer that had recommended this to move forward 1330 01:59:50,910 --> 01:59:56,070 that we acknowledge that we do need to have 1331 01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:59,170 some other stakeholders weigh in and perhaps have a conversation. 1332 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,100 If necessary, although I did make the motion to approve, you know, I would be receptive to the idea of perhaps having either a cow that speaks to specifically to this, or have a special called PWI that would be convenient to all the commissioners where we could have everybody at the table and have sort of the different questions be asked and make sure that expectations for the individual commissioners meets the intent that we had when we first put this idea together. And with that, I will yield back my time. 1333 02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:51,940 All right, and thank you, yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Sorry I had a little early at another meeting, but I did review the packet that central staff put together, so I'm comfortable with, you know, the updates and changes, so I was there. I would have joined you in. 1334 02:00:51,940 --> 02:00:58,920 I don't know, no shame cast, just I know we get busy and special calls, things that pop up unanticipatedly. 1335 02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:00,260 So thank you commissioner. 1336 02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:01,180 Thank you. 1337 02:01:01,180 --> 02:01:01,280 Thank you. 1338 02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:02,400 Commissioner Bolton. 1339 02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:08,280 I didn't get to attend that special call. 1340 02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:13,220 I was hoping that the meeting I did attend you guys would have been able to speak about it. 1341 02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:20,600 I did send an email reply on August 19 with some of the questions and concerns that I had. 1342 02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:24,960 had did you guys get an opportunity to discuss some of the commissioner's concerns? 1343 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:30,980 So we did not, and I'm glad you mentioned that we were sort of bumping up against time constraints yesterday. 1344 02:01:32,420 --> 02:01:37,260 So again, the committee, the two of us, like what we saw, I guess we've also heard Commissioner Terry said he was 1345 02:01:37,260 --> 02:01:46,200 relatively comfortable with what he was there, but this is a big discussion item, and it might be appropriate to say 1346 02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:50,360 was bring it back to the cow or bring it back to a special called and have those questions 1347 02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:59,320 answered as well. Okay. It was a couple things I wouldn't like to discuss them but I wouldn't 1348 02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:04,620 say there are anything that could be a major hold-up but depending on how the conversation 1349 02:02:04,620 --> 02:02:14,520 goes, commissioners may feel the same. So I don't have a problem with supporting the majority's 1350 02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:22,600 decision but I did have some concerns that I did want to discuss and to that point we need 1351 02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:28,460 to get this right and so I think if there are concerns even if a small minor questions 1352 02:02:28,460 --> 02:02:31,080 I think it's worth taking the time for the conversation. 1353 02:02:36,820 --> 02:02:36,840 Okay. 1354 02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:41,920 Do you, you're a commissioner told me you saw a, I'm sorry, ma'am yes, I yield back. 1355 02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:42,940 Commissioner Ms. Smith. 1356 02:02:42,940 --> 02:03:11,040 Yes, and I think Cal will be great, just to give a little to central terms of the opportunity to hear some of those concerns and address the same if we can have those and if you're 1357 02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:15,540 to commissioners who would kind of, you still want to move forward, but still have a 1358 02:03:15,540 --> 02:03:15,900 presentation. 1359 02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:18,500 Yes, in County, I don't mind, but I'm going to move forward. 1360 02:03:19,260 --> 02:03:19,460 Okay. 1361 02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:21,300 I will just call them. 1362 02:03:21,380 --> 02:03:22,040 We're ready to vote. 1363 02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:26,020 Um, well, I'll tell you what, you know, one of the things I realized we didn't, we usually 1364 02:03:26,020 --> 02:03:29,800 go through a checklist of questions and I just wanted to, like, if I could call on the 1365 02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:31,560 newly minted county attorney, 1366 02:03:34,580 --> 02:03:38,520 this is just a true, your phrase, true to form, your office 1367 02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:43,000 has had a chance to review this and, and, uh, is that correct? 1368 02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:44,300 We were saying yesterday. 1369 02:03:45,580 --> 02:03:46,780 We might not re-chastry it. 1370 02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:50,080 We're just going to be the central staff to go over it. 1371 02:03:50,620 --> 02:03:50,640 OK. 1372 02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:52,120 I'm going to address anything else to address. 1373 02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:52,700 OK. 1374 02:03:54,060 --> 02:03:58,960 Again, because they need to get this right, I'd like to change my motion to a motion 1375 02:03:58,960 --> 02:03:59,580 to defer. 1376 02:04:00,780 --> 02:04:05,300 I would suggest to the next cow with that appropriate amount of presiding officer. 1377 02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:08,800 That way all commissioners can be present for the conversation, 1378 02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:11,940 but that is my modified motion. 1379 02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:15,000 That's just your circumstance, Mr. Chair. 1380 02:04:15,220 --> 02:04:16,780 Okay, second stance, all right. 1381 02:04:17,340 --> 02:04:20,340 Mr. Davis Johnson has requested us to speak. 1382 02:04:23,070 --> 02:04:24,530 Yeah, just briefly. 1383 02:04:26,110 --> 02:04:30,090 And of course, I'm glad that this is kind of to the point 1384 02:04:30,610 --> 02:04:34,290 where we are now, that was extensive conversation 1385 02:04:34,290 --> 02:04:40,610 when I first introduced this, we spoke with athletes, 1386 02:04:40,610 --> 02:04:52,130 It's called legal, it's called all the commissioners on it, and so we have this form, and I'm glad 1387 02:04:52,130 --> 02:04:59,950 and so I think that any questions that any of us have hopefully, it can be... 1388 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:13,900 We address in the, hopefully, can be addressed in the cow meeting, because we're like eight months out, seven months out. 1389 02:05:14,620 --> 02:05:20,460 And so we need to start monitoring what's happening. So thank you all. 1390 02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:24,800 Thank you commissioner Davis Johnson. Please open the machine for the vote. 1391 02:05:26,850 --> 02:05:28,970 Well, we need to, we need a certain date. 1392 02:05:29,250 --> 02:05:30,450 So when is the next count? 1393 02:05:31,110 --> 02:05:32,390 And is that? 1394 02:05:41,900 --> 02:05:45,100 So deferred to September 15th would be the voting meeting. 1395 02:05:45,940 --> 02:05:46,780 With the stop account. 1396 02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:49,760 If we could defer that. 1397 02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:51,320 Oh, you're going to miss one of those. 1398 02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:52,580 Missing a couple meetings. 1399 02:05:56,340 --> 02:06:00,680 Could we defer it to the September 29th, 1400 02:06:00,740 --> 02:06:01,700 B.O.C. 1401 02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:07,120 and then have it at the, I think, at the 22nd count? 1402 02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:10,050 All right. 1403 02:06:22,820 --> 02:06:28,260 That works. Okay. Thank you. So September 29th with a prior stop in the account. 1404 02:06:31,010 --> 02:06:32,670 The chair of the committee. Okay. 1405 02:06:34,940 --> 02:06:37,500 Thank you so much, machines are open for the vote. 1406 02:06:39,020 --> 02:06:40,160 I'm up to two for carries. 1407 02:06:42,830 --> 02:06:47,430 Under district two, I don't 2024-10842 all commission districts. 1408 02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:52,170 A resolution to amend the Board of Commissioners standing procedural rules, but this is an upside. 1409 02:06:52,170 --> 02:06:53,330 Yeah, 1410 02:06:58,790 --> 02:07:07,650 it's based on the recommendation of the office committee, this is our second reading and I move to approve. 1411 02:07:09,460 --> 02:07:10,380 Is there a second? 1412 02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:13,820 Second, thank you. 1413 02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:16,740 Commissioner Terry, you request it to speak here before. 1414 02:07:20,160 --> 02:07:22,240 Yes, thank you Madam Presiding Officer. 1415 02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:29,440 I would like to request that in the spirit of consensus building 1416 02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:46,220 and compromise and also I think the intent of these real changes to remove the, I guess, the three vote rule is what we're calling it from this real change. 1417 02:07:47,140 --> 02:07:55,260 And the main reason is why I'm requesting this is number one, well, a couple of things I'll start with. 1418 02:07:55,260 --> 02:08:01,420 One, just the general consensus and understanding that each commissioner is elected. 1419 02:08:02,420 --> 02:08:06,240 For district commissioners, it's over 150,000 residents, if you're a super commissioner, 1420 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:12,860 it's 350,000 residents, and presumably when folks elected us, they thought that we would 1421 02:08:12,860 --> 02:08:16,400 be able to introduce legislation to represent them. 1422 02:08:16,460 --> 02:08:21,280 It has been the policy of the Board of Commissioners that any single commissioner can introduce 1423 02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:27,800 legislation to begin that public discussion about policies, issues, funding items, anything 1424 02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:31,060 really germane to what their constituents want. 1425 02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:36,500 My concern with this three vote rule is that it basically turns what would be an open 1426 02:08:36,500 --> 02:08:41,900 democratic process into an unrecorded pocket veto, because what the rules are saying is that 1427 02:08:41,900 --> 02:08:48,540 a commissioner needs two other sponsors, he three commissioners, which is 43% of this body 1428 02:08:48,540 --> 02:08:51,440 before an item can even be brought to the public. 1429 02:08:52,140 --> 02:08:54,800 But even in the rules that are being considered now, 1430 02:08:54,980 --> 02:08:58,340 it says that before the law department or central staff 1431 02:08:58,340 --> 02:09:01,340 can do their work, you need three commissioners. 1432 02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:03,560 And so I would say just on the grounds 1433 02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:07,160 that if a commissioner wants the law department or central staff 1434 02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:11,640 to help us work on ideas, it shouldn't take three commissioners 1435 02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:13,620 just to even get to the point of deciding 1436 02:09:13,620 --> 02:09:15,820 whether we want to discuss an item. 1437 02:09:16,780 --> 02:09:22,200 The committee system, I think, is designed for those discussions to happen. 1438 02:09:23,020 --> 02:09:29,840 I'm actually aware that the committee itself can discuss items at the leisure of the chair. 1439 02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:35,780 So there is a way actually for there to be three votes to bring items to the agenda that would be 1440 02:09:35,780 --> 02:09:43,900 the committee could simply ask the committee members to bring that legislation forward and discuss in that committee beforehand. 1441 02:09:43,900 --> 02:09:49,020 And there were discussions about the legality of the rule change, and I think we've heard 1442 02:09:49,020 --> 02:09:53,440 that legally the Commission can enact its own rules, but just because you can, doesn't 1443 02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:54,300 mean that you should. 1444 02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:59,960 We have acknowledged that there are some Board of Commissioners bodies in the cap cap. 1445 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:07,520 In Georgia, excuse me, that have a higher threshold, I believe it was referenced, Bartow County requiring 1446 02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:12,720 four commissioners before an item can be introduced, although their chair can introduce items to the 1447 02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:20,740 agenda whenever they want. The rule change also is still preserving the ability of the CEO to 1448 02:10:20,740 --> 02:10:27,280 introduce an agenda item whenever she wants. And then, I guess, the presiding officer also can still 1449 02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:29,100 in the latterly place items on the agenda. 1450 02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:33,860 So while the CEO and the person who over the presiding officer is can't add an item to 1451 02:10:33,860 --> 02:10:39,060 the agenda, you know, latterly, it takes three of us under this rule change to introduce 1452 02:10:39,060 --> 02:10:40,480 any items to the agenda. 1453 02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:49,420 This is sort of like a multi-member pre-clearance situation, and it could be a good thing 1454 02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:56,400 if tailored in the right way, maybe through a quarterly retreat process where the boards 1455 02:10:56,400 --> 02:11:01,720 committees work on ideas and hopefully through that retreat process and a work plan we can get 1456 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:06,900 to, you know, two commissioners, three commissioners, but it could be abused. There could 1457 02:11:06,900 --> 02:11:11,140 be a support in the future where two commissioners, a district commissioner, and a super commissioner, 1458 02:11:11,700 --> 02:11:17,080 decide there's something really important to their districts, but the other five commissioners say, 1459 02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:23,480 we don't want to deal with it. And so it basically prevents any one or two commissioners from bringing 1460 02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:26,620 items to the board for considering consideration. 1461 02:11:27,260 --> 02:11:29,620 I think also forcing the three commissioners to negotiate 1462 02:11:29,620 --> 02:11:32,480 behind the scenes before anything can be brought to the public 1463 02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:39,700 light basically creates this danger of horse trading, 1464 02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:43,020 where by the time you all see anything that comes to our agenda, 1465 02:11:43,340 --> 02:11:45,500 it's already basically been worked out. 1466 02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:49,080 And even more concerning is if three of the commissioners 1467 02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:52,040 are on the same committee, then now we have just 1468 02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:54,560 bypass the whole committee process. 1469 02:11:54,940 --> 02:11:57,760 The committee process was designed for deliberation. 1470 02:11:58,540 --> 02:12:01,960 And finally, I think the other concern with this rule change 1471 02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:05,900 is that the Robertsville's order still preserves the right 1472 02:12:05,900 --> 02:12:09,640 for a motion in a second to add an item to the agenda. 1473 02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:11,880 And so what might end up happening is, 1474 02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:14,240 if two commissioners can't get a third vote, 1475 02:12:14,940 --> 02:12:17,120 then the only way commissioners can bring it to the table 1476 02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:19,980 is by bringing it to the agenda and forcing the discussion 1477 02:12:19,980 --> 02:12:22,920 during a normal meeting to add an item to the agenda. 1478 02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:24,220 Thank you, Commissioner. 1479 02:12:25,980 --> 02:12:27,100 Thank you. 1480 02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:28,200 Thank you, Madam President and Officer. 1481 02:12:29,340 --> 02:12:31,940 I have three points I'd like to make. 1482 02:12:32,180 --> 02:12:35,940 One of them I will ask the law department and we can hear time on the clock. 1483 02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:36,460 They're choosing. 1484 02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:40,420 Come forward to the podium and I may present a substitute motion. 1485 02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:47,240 So my first point is the law department was sent a request by Commissioner Terry. 1486 02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:56,100 And we had previously, I co-sponsored co-drafted, I guess, this memo to the Board of Commissioners, 1487 02:12:56,140 --> 02:12:59,400 just expressing our concerns over this three-sponsor rule. 1488 02:12:59,860 --> 02:13:11,520 I appreciate you guys very quickly reviewing that memo and then providing your legal opinion on what we submitted to the commissioners within the body of that memo. 1489 02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:19,940 I have not had a chance to speak to you guys yet about it, because I believe you sent it yesterday, maybe after noon or so. 1490 02:13:20,600 --> 02:13:28,280 And most of us spend a good part of our Mondays getting prepared for today's meetings, plural, this one plus the committee meetings. 1491 02:13:28,900 --> 02:13:39,220 My question to you, sir, is something that Commissioner Terry brought up about the presiding officer being able to add an item without the three sponsor rule. 1492 02:13:39,220 --> 02:13:45,860 I just kind of glanced at our presiding officer, and I think she's potentially not an agreement on that. 1493 02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:52,240 Could you just expand? Is that something we're done that memo that maybe we didn't fully read into? 1494 02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:54,460 Or is that something you need to go back and think about? 1495 02:13:55,220 --> 02:13:56,500 Of course, what I'm confident in doing 1496 02:13:59,920 --> 02:14:00,280 that. 1497 02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:00,560 Okay. 1498 02:14:03,670 --> 02:14:08,230 In this public forum and opinion from the law department, I'd ask that we speak about that offline. 1499 02:14:08,910 --> 02:14:12,310 But to respond from what your current rules say, 1500 02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:15,410 as your commonly referred to Blue Book provide. 1501 02:14:15,950 --> 02:14:16,790 Yes, sir. 1502 02:14:16,850 --> 02:14:19,830 Under part one, number one, 1503 02:14:19,950 --> 02:14:23,750 presiding officer, sections E and F, 1504 02:14:23,970 --> 02:14:26,950 I think are what commissioner Terry's referring to 1505 02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:28,430 and how that will war a place. 1506 02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:30,630 I think that there are no page numbers. 1507 02:14:30,830 --> 02:14:31,750 It's the first rule. 1508 02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:34,130 It's the first page of actual rules, 1509 02:14:34,430 --> 02:14:37,210 right behind the table of contents, 1510 02:14:37,210 --> 02:14:38,370 if you will, you will, you will. 1511 02:14:38,570 --> 02:14:38,670 Thank you. 1512 02:14:38,750 --> 02:14:39,410 I'll be there. 1513 02:14:39,410 --> 02:14:39,610 Go ahead. 1514 02:14:39,710 --> 02:14:41,730 So, I'm just going to read it to you. 1515 02:14:42,510 --> 02:14:50,950 The term of the meeting agenda and the absence of a committee of the whole, that is a power that you've given to the presiding officer. 1516 02:14:52,430 --> 02:14:59,970 Have the discretion to add an item to the agenda after the committee of the whole, but prior to the public. 1517 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:08,200 The next Board of Commissioners regular business meeting agenda. Those two have been in place. I believe, in a sense, this book was adopted. 1518 02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:21,980 Okay, all right. So you haven't made any other suggestions or changes related to the presiding officers. Well, as the PL last year, remember I did have that privilege to do it. 1519 02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:29,000 So thank you for that clarification. All right. The next comment I have is related to the purpose of the committee. 1520 02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:36,360 thank you sir, related to the committee structure. This was actually a suggestion made an email 1521 02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:44,200 last year and there I believe was some commentary through email about this new rule so it's 1522 02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:48,700 don't recall when it was but I believe it's taken a full year to kind of advance it forward 1523 02:15:48,700 --> 02:15:56,180 and my feeling on this is that the purpose of this committee structure we have five committees. Each committee 1524 02:15:56,180 --> 02:16:03,160 has three standing members on those committees and then other commissioners are able to participate 1525 02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:09,120 in attend those committee meetings and after the committee member's feet that then they are 1526 02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:16,660 able to also speak or deliberate debate, open, on each agenda item that's being discussed within 1527 02:16:16,660 --> 02:16:24,340 that particular committee meeting. So to me, the structure was already designed to have a 1528 02:16:24,340 --> 02:16:30,340 may be not necessarily a vote, but a recommendation from three commissioners. 1529 02:16:31,020 --> 02:16:38,720 So this new rule, in effect, has the pre-three sponsor rule, then it goes once you get 1530 02:16:38,720 --> 02:16:44,960 those three sponsors, as commissioner Terry pointed out, 43%, then it comes to a cow meeting 1531 02:16:45,350 --> 02:16:50,960 and determine which committee, then it goes to a business meeting and at that point I know 1532 02:16:50,960 --> 02:16:56,300 The presiding officer asks us not to debate or deliberate too much during the business meeting, 1533 02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:01,200 but for it to actually go to the committee meeting for that deliberation at which three 1534 02:17:01,780 --> 02:17:07,420 commissioners make a recommendation, and that recommendation could be for approval, for denial, 1535 02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:13,700 for withdrawal, it can also be tabled within committee if you don't get to that item or if 1536 02:17:13,700 --> 02:17:18,280 the committee chair really just feels like there needs to be more due diligence on the back end. 1537 02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:25,400 So I am of the opinion that the structure we currently have in place is sufficient to deal with them. 1538 02:17:25,780 --> 02:17:34,280 So my substitute motion and Mr. County attorney now, if you can make sure I make this correctly, 1539 02:17:34,860 --> 02:17:38,320 is if we could please remove the three sponsor. 1540 02:17:38,660 --> 02:17:47,440 So my motion is to remove the three sponsor rule from the overall vote of our blue book, our procedural rules, 1541 02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:59,320 defer that for 30 days to the next for the business meeting and 30 days which would be September 29th. 1542 02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:00,500 That is my motion. 1543 02:18:01,220 --> 02:18:01,940 Substitute motion. 1544 02:18:03,980 --> 02:18:04,580 It was supposed to. 1545 02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:08,420 So county attorney that sounded like that good enough. 1546 02:18:09,140 --> 02:18:09,160 Official. 1547 02:18:09,500 --> 02:18:10,680 What's it? 1548 02:18:10,720 --> 02:18:11,420 Substitute motion? 1549 02:18:11,740 --> 02:18:13,480 You didn't seem to object any of that. 1550 02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:19,640 It didn't what I want to be clear that what the practical effect would be is that you would have a first reading 1551 02:18:20,260 --> 02:18:21,940 Because you have to start over 1552 02:18:21,940 --> 02:18:28,220 You would have a first reading of what you're proposing at the meeting in 30 days understood 1553 02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:34,440 All right, there's a substitute motion seconded by commissioner. Yeah, I believe 1554 02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:37,060 All right commissioner both can you request to speak? 1555 02:18:38,340 --> 02:18:41,000 Yes, ma'am. Thank you madam presiding officer 1556 02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:46,280 First, I want to say I am a supporter of the three co-sponsor rule that we're proposing 1557 02:18:46,280 --> 02:18:47,720 for the blue book. 1558 02:18:47,940 --> 02:18:56,300 However, considering what our colleagues have just communicated, I was thinking that a compromise 1559 02:18:56,300 --> 02:19:03,120 could potentially be that committee chairs can add items to their committee. 1560 02:19:03,940 --> 02:19:10,040 So not an individual adding to that item and that similar to the presiding officer having the 1561 02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:19,720 ability to add and set for B. Cow, but so if a commissioner and the committee chair are both 1562 02:19:19,720 --> 02:19:27,700 in agreement only for that committee, can an atom be item at the discretion of the chair. 1563 02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:36,080 And so this would preserve the committee structure and allow for a two-person rule outside 1564 02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:44,440 of what we have already proposed and just sharing that as an idea, it has not been added, 1565 02:19:44,660 --> 02:19:50,740 it has not been discussed. This is just something I was thinking for committee chairs to 1566 02:19:50,740 --> 02:19:53,920 still have the authority over their committees and I go back. 1567 02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:57,620 Thank you commissioner Bolton. Commissioner Terry, your second opportunity. 1568 02:19:59,100 --> 02:19:59,960 Thank you. I think 1569 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,540 That is an interesting proposal, commissioner, the one second, let's get through time right? 1570 02:20:05,800 --> 02:20:07,580 Just being three minutes, three seconds. 1571 02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:10,240 All right, thank you. 1572 02:20:10,540 --> 02:20:11,720 I think that is an interesting proposal. 1573 02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:18,460 I, were you saying that added to the committee agenda or the Board agenda? 1574 02:20:21,900 --> 02:20:26,600 Well, everything has to start with the count and then be assigned to a committee. 1575 02:20:29,340 --> 02:20:32,500 But essentially, yes to both. 1576 02:20:33,220 --> 02:20:39,700 Okay, so a committee chair and a member of the committee would be able also to add an item 1577 02:20:39,700 --> 02:20:42,420 to the agenda as it relates to that committee. 1578 02:20:42,680 --> 02:20:51,000 Just to that committee, so if you want it to add something to arts, you can either go the route 1579 02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:58,740 in the three of you, go you and your two co-sponsors or if the committee chair is wants to 1580 02:20:58,740 --> 02:21:02,320 have that item on their agenda, then it could be proposed. 1581 02:21:03,100 --> 02:21:04,560 Okay, but only committee agenda only. 1582 02:21:05,580 --> 02:21:08,980 You can't do just a committee agenda of waiver currency setup. 1583 02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:13,480 Okay. Well, I think it would be on the Cal but assigned to that committee. 1584 02:21:13,740 --> 02:21:16,280 You're just getting by and from the committee chair. 1585 02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:17,940 Okay, gotcha. Okay. 1586 02:21:19,500 --> 02:21:22,340 So, well, now I'd love to, I like what you're saying. 1587 02:21:22,520 --> 02:21:27,860 I like to, can we defer this because of we pass? 1588 02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:35,200 that, then we'll have to do another amendment, right, I guess, that would be the next rule change. 1589 02:21:35,980 --> 02:21:36,340 What is this? 1590 02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:37,080 What is this? 1591 02:21:37,080 --> 02:21:41,060 I was saying, this is separate from the three rule. 1592 02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:45,120 This was just an addition too. 1593 02:21:45,340 --> 02:21:47,480 So a lot to hold up the vote today. 1594 02:21:50,050 --> 02:21:50,130 Okay. 1595 02:21:50,130 --> 02:21:54,750 So can I ask a clarifying question that might help some of this? 1596 02:21:55,090 --> 02:22:02,550 So Attorney Phillips, just to make sure I'm understanding this right, if we were to continue 1597 02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:08,290 with the second read and approval today, but then we know there's additional items that are 1598 02:22:08,290 --> 02:22:15,310 under consideration. And so with what Commissioner Bolton was just alpining to, that could make 1599 02:22:15,310 --> 02:22:20,990 a consideration in that next round, anyway, just add to the roles that we would pass today, 1600 02:22:20,990 --> 02:22:22,850 is that a correct understanding? 1601 02:22:24,970 --> 02:22:28,770 As I understood Dr. Bolton, yes, that would be a new rule 1602 02:22:28,770 --> 02:22:31,070 that would be added in the next round 1603 02:22:31,070 --> 02:22:34,670 to supplement your process and extend it to committee chairs. 1604 02:22:35,290 --> 02:22:37,290 If I follow her, we would work to make sure 1605 02:22:37,290 --> 02:22:39,610 we articulate exactly what you envision. 1606 02:22:40,370 --> 02:22:42,710 So that would allow for the original motion. 1607 02:22:43,030 --> 02:22:46,130 We could move forward with what's before it's currently, 1608 02:22:46,890 --> 02:22:49,330 but knowing that we've already discussed 1609 02:22:49,330 --> 02:22:53,010 that there are additional changes that need to come out of the 1610 02:22:53,010 --> 02:22:54,430 Ops Committee and get consensus. 1611 02:22:54,770 --> 02:22:56,810 So it sounds like this could be one of those items. 1612 02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:58,490 Just wanted to make sure we're clear. 1613 02:22:59,870 --> 02:23:00,070 Okay. 1614 02:23:00,650 --> 02:23:04,450 Well, I like when this is going, I probably still won't support the rule change, 1615 02:23:05,190 --> 02:23:09,190 but hopefully we can work out in a future Ops meeting that addition. 1616 02:23:09,250 --> 02:23:13,230 I think that would go a long way to help me address my concerns. 1617 02:23:13,850 --> 02:23:13,970 Okay. 1618 02:23:14,210 --> 02:23:14,830 Thank you, Mr. Terry. 1619 02:23:14,950 --> 02:23:16,690 Commissioner Monspires, your second opportunity. 1620 02:23:16,690 --> 02:23:18,910 Thank you Madam Presiding Officer. 1621 02:23:20,050 --> 02:23:22,010 It was a good time on move. 1622 02:23:22,510 --> 02:23:25,430 Interesting idea actually. 1623 02:23:26,290 --> 02:23:28,890 So I just want to make sure I'm really clearly understand it. 1624 02:23:29,670 --> 02:23:32,370 Because I think there was just a little confusion with the back and forth. 1625 02:23:32,770 --> 02:23:37,170 So what you're suggesting is this be not something we're voting on today. 1626 02:23:37,970 --> 02:23:42,030 Okay, but an additional rule that can be deliberated in the Ops committee in the future. 1627 02:23:42,770 --> 02:23:44,710 So let me make something easy up. 1628 02:23:44,710 --> 02:23:51,770 So, say we're suggesting that we change our blue book to purple or green, right? 1629 02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:53,610 This is just an example. 1630 02:23:55,030 --> 02:23:55,870 It would, 1631 02:23:57,930 --> 02:24:03,450 let me think here, so if let's just say that would be in the Ops committee. 1632 02:24:04,690 --> 02:24:12,410 So we are the chair, somebody wants to change the procedural rule from blue, let's say, to green. 1633 02:24:12,410 --> 02:24:23,890 So does that mean the person that wants to do that needs to go in advance to the chair of the committee and ask if they would support that rule? 1634 02:24:24,570 --> 02:24:34,130 Okay, so let's say I'm suggesting to Commissioner Marita Davis Johnson that I think it'd be a cool idea to change it from blue to green. 1635 02:24:34,130 --> 02:24:39,850 And I go to her and she says, I like that idea and I'm not saying that you do or 1636 02:24:39,850 --> 02:24:40,470 don't. 1637 02:24:40,790 --> 02:24:42,370 But I like that idea. 1638 02:24:44,130 --> 02:24:48,530 Mr. County Attorney, there's no problem with any kind of email, correspondence discussing 1639 02:24:48,530 --> 02:24:49,950 that through email. 1640 02:24:50,410 --> 02:24:52,990 You are allowed to communicate in writing, okay. 1641 02:24:53,170 --> 02:24:53,430 Cool things. 1642 02:24:53,770 --> 02:24:54,170 All right. 1643 02:24:54,530 --> 02:24:59,850 And then she likes that idea and so would you have to have just based on what you're 1644 02:24:59,850 --> 02:24:59,970 Thank you. 1645 02:25:01,020 --> 02:25:15,820 The committee chair and another member of the committee, so that would in effect be two people, making that recommendation, or could it be the committee chair and then the person that's sponsoring it, so I don't sit on the Ops committee. 1646 02:25:16,660 --> 02:25:26,620 So is that acceptable for a non-Ops committee member, a non-committee member, to partner with the chair, so that would constate two sponsors of that? 1647 02:25:28,760 --> 02:25:37,580 Yes, if it's the committee, if you get buying from the committee chair, you just need that one additional person or any three commissioners. 1648 02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:41,420 Okay. All right. Well, it's it's certainly an interesting idea. 1649 02:25:42,440 --> 02:25:47,640 And I would definitely love the opportunity to explore that further. Thank you so much. You'll back. 1650 02:25:47,900 --> 02:25:50,460 Thank you commissioner, sir. Your first opportunity. 1651 02:25:50,860 --> 02:25:52,520 Thank you so much. 1652 02:25:52,520 --> 02:26:02,620 and as initially hesitant, as it was, I support us moving forward with this, particularly 1653 02:26:02,620 --> 02:26:11,420 as Chair Peck's I've seen how legislation that hasn't been properly vet it comes before 1654 02:26:11,420 --> 02:26:19,800 us, and it does not go into the legal department first. It is not something that's discussed 1655 02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:22,160 with other departments to be quite frank. 1656 02:26:22,620 --> 02:26:26,380 It is utilized as political play and rhetoric. 1657 02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:32,540 And what it does is it not only ties up and makes difficult 1658 02:26:32,540 --> 02:26:35,480 our work here as commissioners. 1659 02:26:35,980 --> 02:26:40,380 It also sometimes inadvertently, and sometimes to be quite frank, 1660 02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:44,080 people do it intentionally, misrepresenting 1661 02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:46,640 creates a confusion in the public. 1662 02:26:46,640 --> 02:27:12,960 So, to the extent since we have a responsibility as commissioners, as long as we're not doing it like some of my colleagues here, in adverse open meetings, if there is a socialization and a brief discussion, and you get support and garnish support, that just allows an opportunity for collaborative leadership and discussion around how we can make it better. 1663 02:27:12,960 --> 02:27:20,900 weeks that may need to take place beforehand, and therefore allows us to put more effective, 1664 02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:27,760 more efficient legislation before we deliver it with the rest of our colleagues and then vote. 1665 02:27:28,280 --> 02:27:31,600 So I don't see it as a stifling of anyone. 1666 02:27:31,980 --> 02:27:36,200 I see it more as an opportunity for us to work collaboratively, 1667 02:27:36,200 --> 02:27:43,860 put our heads together and put forth legislation that is supported and more thought out with that I 1668 02:27:43,860 --> 02:27:50,260 you'll back. Thank you, Commissioner Missiah. Excuse me. So currently the motion on the 1669 02:27:50,260 --> 02:27:57,020 four is a substitute motion. And I've seen no further requests to speak. So the substitute motion 1670 02:27:57,020 --> 02:28:02,140 essentially was to remove the three sponsor role and then defer for 30 days. Is that correct? 1671 02:28:02,140 --> 02:28:04,800 to make sure it belongs to yours. 1672 02:28:05,360 --> 02:28:06,300 Yes, man, that is the substitute. 1673 02:28:06,580 --> 02:28:07,280 Okay, thank you. 1674 02:28:07,320 --> 02:28:09,040 And that was seconded by Commissioner Terry. 1675 02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:11,220 So that is what will vote on first. 1676 02:28:11,320 --> 02:28:13,040 Please open the machine for the vote. 1677 02:28:19,720 --> 02:28:22,100 That is substitute motion fails. 1678 02:28:22,860 --> 02:28:24,580 So now we're back to the original motion, 1679 02:28:24,820 --> 02:28:26,100 which was to approve. 1680 02:28:27,240 --> 02:28:30,820 And I forget who seconded that original motion. 1681 02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:31,860 Good, Commissioner Bolton. 1682 02:28:31,960 --> 02:28:34,680 So if you can't your buttons for me again, please. 1683 02:28:37,780 --> 02:28:39,300 Let the ops share do it. 1684 02:28:43,910 --> 02:28:47,010 So let's open that machine for that vote. 1685 02:28:52,020 --> 02:28:53,060 The motion does carry. 1686 02:28:53,420 --> 02:28:56,360 I will say that I did like the additional conversations. 1687 02:28:56,360 --> 02:28:59,460 I hope we can move forward with some of that additional conversation. 1688 02:29:00,140 --> 02:29:01,360 I'm back in Tennessee. 1689 02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:02,760 I'm sorry. 1690 02:29:02,980 --> 02:29:03,240 Commissioner Davis. 1691 02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:04,100 Right, briefly. 1692 02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:07,340 Yeah, I would just like to say and respond to that. 1693 02:29:07,460 --> 02:29:07,900 Please. 1694 02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:12,600 Those that have questions comments and put on the commission. 1695 02:29:12,740 --> 02:29:15,460 Please come to the ops meeting. 1696 02:29:15,460 --> 02:29:23,060 sort of we can discuss it fully, commissioned it, Terry is at just about every ops committee, 1697 02:29:23,900 --> 02:29:26,100 meeting in person. 1698 02:29:26,340 --> 02:29:37,240 I think he had one teleconference, ops committee, but I would just encourage everyone that 1699 02:29:37,240 --> 02:29:45,480 as input into the items that we're discussing, not only in the blue book, but for the 1700 02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:50,720 child review, please come to the Ops Committee so that we can fully discuss and they 1701 02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:52,980 won't have to be discussed in the business meeting. 1702 02:29:53,800 --> 02:29:54,020 Thank you. 1703 02:29:54,360 --> 02:29:55,880 Thank you, Commissioner Davis Johnson. 1704 02:29:55,880 --> 02:29:59,840 Top of page 17, I don't 2026, that's 0.5. 1705 02:30:00,680 --> 02:30:08,520 All commission districts and ordinance to regulate the restraint and transportation of animals and for other purposes, and this is an urgent item. 1706 02:30:09,140 --> 02:30:25,520 Move for action. Move for action. Yes, ma'am. Page 18, item 2026-0708 all commission districts and an ordinance to amend the code of to cab county Georgia chapter five to regulate the sale of dogs, cats and rabbits and pet shops. 1707 02:30:25,520 --> 02:30:29,520 move for action and with that metham, 1708 02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:33,640 presiding officer on behalf of the arts committee. 1709 02:30:34,300 --> 02:30:40,680 I move to defer both item 0.596 and 0.728 1710 02:30:40,680 --> 02:30:44,840 to the September 15th BLC with a prior stop in hers. 1711 02:30:45,960 --> 02:30:46,820 Oh, go ahead. 1712 02:30:48,140 --> 02:30:48,760 You can take it. 1713 02:30:49,380 --> 02:30:50,220 Thank you. 1714 02:30:50,420 --> 02:30:51,660 We have a motion and a second. 1715 02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:54,460 Commissioner Longspirers, you requested a speaker for. 1716 02:30:54,460 --> 02:31:02,460 Yes, ma'am. Both of these items are a district two sponsored item and I did want to acknowledge the 1717 02:31:02,460 --> 02:31:09,600 herbs chair for being gracious and allowing us to bring in speakers, both virtually and in person, 1718 02:31:09,980 --> 02:31:18,520 to speak to these topics. One topic related to transient sales. We have discussed several times now in committee meeting. 1719 02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:23,680 we do have the retail sales ban, which is one, I believe, coming up on a future 1720 02:31:23,680 --> 02:31:28,840 orp sejenda. So, have you determined what date, madam, orp's share, you guys 1721 02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:32,300 will be hearing that item, inquiring minds want to know. 1722 02:31:32,500 --> 02:31:37,780 We haven't worked it out yet. We'll work out with you because I know you have another 1723 02:31:37,780 --> 02:31:42,800 speaker. That's correct. That's why we're trying to start coordinating that. Awesome. 1724 02:31:42,960 --> 02:31:44,960 Okay, very good. Thank you so much, and I yield back. 1725 02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:48,280 Thank you, Commissioner Long Spears. I see no further requests to speak. 1726 02:31:48,280 --> 02:31:49,820 for the vote. 1727 02:31:56,420 --> 02:32:02,640 Motion to defer carries. Thank you. Bottom the page 18, a district 3 item, 1728 02:32:06,020 --> 02:32:13,960 and then being handed to substitute for this. Item 2026-0550 adopted ordinance to amend the 1729 02:32:13,960 --> 02:32:19,140 code of the CAF County to address public safety drifting, unauthorized camping, and certain public 1730 02:32:19,140 --> 02:32:20,200 Susan's behaviors, 1731 02:32:22,420 --> 02:32:24,320 and this is a text item. 1732 02:32:24,380 --> 02:32:27,940 Motion to approve committee with the additional substitute 1733 02:32:27,940 --> 02:32:28,720 at language. 1734 02:32:29,480 --> 02:32:30,780 Is there a second 1735 02:32:36,220 --> 02:32:38,420 for the purposes of discussion? 1736 02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:40,940 Thank you so much. 1737 02:32:41,140 --> 02:32:42,400 Commissioner wrongspers, are you requesting 1738 02:32:42,400 --> 02:32:44,680 his speakers at the hangover from last time? 1739 02:32:45,260 --> 02:32:47,220 No, ma'am, I am requesting to speak, please. 1740 02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:48,400 Thank you. 1741 02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:49,440 I'm out of the form, ma'am. 1742 02:32:49,540 --> 02:32:50,340 Thank you so much. 1743 02:32:50,360 --> 02:32:51,640 I appreciate that. 1744 02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:52,400 All right. 1745 02:32:52,400 --> 02:33:06,760 So there has been considerable dialogue about this item, and I wanted to address a couple of issues that have been brought to my attention. 1746 02:33:07,460 --> 02:33:15,680 The first thing is that I get all my papers organized, a huge stack all relates to this. 1747 02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:23,900 Okay, this item has been active now since the spring, so it's been ongoing now for many, many months. 1748 02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:33,160 The date of the previous version was dated June 9th and I just had my office confirm that. 1749 02:33:33,720 --> 02:33:42,040 On June 8th we did receive considerable feedback from Dr. Allen Ferguson, our housing officer, 1750 02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:49,780 and that was a email that was sent to me and then distributed to all of the commissioners making 1751 02:33:49,780 --> 02:33:56,860 several recommendations for the urban camping ordinance. I have limited time so I'm going to 1752 02:33:56,860 --> 02:34:02,720 read very quickly and I will request a second time to speak. So the very first thing he requested 1753 02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:12,020 is a title change to what you currently read on the agenda to read an ordinance to amend the 1754 02:34:12,020 --> 02:34:18,660 in camping, in camp management, public access, and public safety, and for other purposes. 1755 02:34:19,320 --> 02:34:25,380 He've been also added to extra warehouse statements that I wholeheartedly believe and agree 1756 02:34:25,380 --> 02:34:30,300 with both of them, whereas the Commission recognizes that homelessness is fundamentally 1757 02:34:30,300 --> 02:34:34,860 a housing and service delivery challenge that is best to dress through access to housing 1758 02:34:34,860 --> 02:34:39,640 shelter, behavioral health services, supportive services, employment, opportunities and coordinated 1759 02:34:39,640 --> 02:34:44,980 community resources and whereas the purpose of this ordinance is not to criminalize homelessness 1760 02:34:44,980 --> 02:34:50,320 or poverty but to preserve public health and safety while connecting individuals to available 1761 02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:56,780 services and housing resources whenever possible. The reason I elevate the addition of these two 1762 02:34:56,780 --> 02:34:59,960 as statements. I believe that it is fair. 1763 02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:07,260 And all of our desire to ensure that our unhouse plan really sinks with our overall housing 1764 02:35:07,260 --> 02:35:15,920 complaint, and that it is a compassionate solution to the homelessness crisis that we're dealing 1765 02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:22,860 with right now here in DeCab County. He further goes on to revise the definition of camp. Camp 1766 02:35:22,860 --> 02:35:28,120 means using public property for living accommodation purposes, including sleeping, storing personal 1767 02:35:28,120 --> 02:35:32,600 alongings, erecting temporary shelters or structures, cooking, maintaining bedding materials, 1768 02:35:32,820 --> 02:35:38,920 or otherwise residing in a location not intended for human habitation, and currently not 1769 02:35:38,920 --> 02:35:46,040 of the above is in the substitute ordinance that is in front of us right now. 1770 02:35:46,960 --> 02:35:53,660 The next thing that he brought up was resat revising the prohibitive conduct section, and again 1771 02:35:53,660 --> 02:35:58,120 This came from the administration, it did come from our chief housing officer, Dr. Ferguson. 1772 02:35:59,060 --> 02:36:01,940 He suggested we revise the language to read. 1773 02:36:02,100 --> 02:36:06,760 It should shall be unlawful for any person to establish a maintain a cap site on public 1774 02:36:06,760 --> 02:36:11,800 property in a manner that materially obstructs public access public infrastructure or the 1775 02:36:11,800 --> 02:36:13,420 intended use of public property. 1776 02:36:14,060 --> 02:36:18,540 Shall be unlawful for any person to erect or maintain temporary structures that obstruct sidewalks 1777 02:36:18,540 --> 02:36:21,480 roadways, public ride-aways, trails, parks or public facilities. 1778 02:36:21,480 --> 02:36:28,740 Thirdly camp within designated Shelby Unlawful to camp within designated environmentally sensitive 1779 02:36:28,740 --> 02:36:34,700 areas, utility easements, flood-prone areas, transportation corridors, bridges, tunnels, 1780 02:36:35,660 --> 02:36:40,700 active construction sites or other locations designated by the county as presenting 1781 02:36:40,700 --> 02:36:43,440 a significant health or safety risk. 1782 02:36:44,060 --> 02:36:48,700 He has several other sections I don't have time within the eight minutes we'll have total, 1783 02:36:48,700 --> 02:36:55,500 But the topics of exploration, which I don't believe we have fully explored yet, are strengthening 1784 02:36:55,500 --> 02:37:02,700 our outreach requirements, adding vulnerable population protections, extending personal 1785 02:37:02,700 --> 02:37:06,060 property notice requirements, and I will elevate that. 1786 02:37:06,220 --> 02:37:10,780 These states here written notice shall be post at least 72 hours prior to the removal of 1787 02:37:10,780 --> 02:37:15,720 personal property except where a media action is required to address a threat to public health 1788 02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:17,300 public safety or environmental hazards. 1789 02:37:17,300 --> 02:37:28,980 So 72 hours of the next section is personal property storage procedures, just ensuring that we do give at least a period of 30 days for those to be recovered from the owner. 1790 02:37:29,580 --> 02:37:40,720 And then also around a progressive enforcement framework, which is really focused on outreach and engagement opportunity for voluntary compliance citation or civil enforcement action. 1791 02:37:41,260 --> 02:37:45,680 And arrest only went authorized by law and after repeated refusal to comply. 1792 02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:59,060 I bring this up because I do want to make a substitute motion to defer this item for 90 days to be heard in the second call of water. 1793 02:37:59,260 --> 02:38:02,100 I'm allowed to make a substitute motion. 1794 02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:07,620 I will allow her to make the substitute motion outside of her time as I would allow any commissioner to do. 1795 02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:09,460 She can continue to make zero. 1796 02:38:10,540 --> 02:38:12,600 She can continue to make her substitute motion. 1797 02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:21,560 Thank you Madam President Officer, so I will repeat, I am making a substitute motion for item 1798 02:38:21,560 --> 02:38:32,560 2026-0550 to defer this item for 90 days to the second business meeting in November 1799 02:38:32,560 --> 02:38:40,300 that date is November 7th, 17th to give an opportunity for the PeX Chair to host a special 1800 02:38:40,300 --> 02:38:47,440 called PECS meeting or an opportunity for our law enforcement and public safety partners to come 1801 02:38:47,440 --> 02:38:52,120 together to the same table to really discuss this and make sure we put an ordinance for 1802 02:38:52,120 --> 02:38:57,600 to that's in the best interest of our how un-house citizens. Thank you. That is it. 1803 02:38:57,800 --> 02:39:06,430 Is there a second for the substitute motion? Second. Okay. So, Commissioner Long Spears is made a 1804 02:39:06,430 --> 02:39:12,090 to emotional, seconded by Commissioner Terry, Commissioner Sanya, you have the floor with your 1805 02:39:12,090 --> 02:39:13,930 first opportunity to speak. 1806 02:39:14,150 --> 02:39:15,110 Thank you so much. 1807 02:39:16,010 --> 02:39:21,350 So one I want to address the fact that this is not a housing ordinance, as politically 1808 02:39:21,350 --> 02:39:29,330 motivated as my colleague is here sending several emails or having folks post on social media 1809 02:39:29,330 --> 02:39:33,750 and calling this a ordinance to arrest the on-house. 1810 02:39:33,750 --> 02:39:39,510 I reiterate, this is not a housing ordinance, so it would be great and it would be a appropriate 1811 02:39:39,510 --> 02:39:47,570 for Dr. Ferguson and others that are focused on housing to weigh in specifically in and around 1812 02:39:47,570 --> 02:39:53,950 housing if that's what it was about, but what it is specifically about is vacancy and particular 1813 02:39:53,950 --> 02:39:59,430 behaviors that are concerning to specific areas I would say. 1814 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:29,980 You know, inundated in District 3, in and around, you know, South Decab County. And so, it is about that in public safety way. I have seniors that are concerned, trying to go in and out of house, I mean, in and out of grocery stores and gas stations that have a challenge with being able to do so. Additionally, we have laws that have come down when it comes to 2.95, where we have to do so. 1815 02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:36,960 to address some of these concerns, where it is difficult for folks to get into the right 1816 02:40:36,960 --> 02:40:42,400 away, cross streets. I don't know what it looks like in North to Cab and certain areas 1817 02:40:42,400 --> 02:40:46,700 where you are, but I will say, because that's where a lot of the emails actually came from, 1818 02:40:47,440 --> 02:40:59,560 opposed to South, but it is ongoing issue. Additionally, we have individuals that have two 1819 02:40:59,560 --> 02:41:09,240 in Atlanta. And so to ignore that and not be proactive and pre-emptive in our work, I think 1820 02:41:09,240 --> 02:41:17,100 is to not necessarily do our job. This isn't about a political gang. You've missed, we actually 1821 02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:21,860 had public safety, which someone from the sheriff's office, and from our police departments 1822 02:41:21,860 --> 02:41:29,480 spoke, you are absent. You actually deferred this already for 60 days. You were absent in 1823 02:41:29,480 --> 02:41:35,300 last discussion at the PEX meeting, so you're repeatedly absent for these conversations yet 1824 02:41:35,300 --> 02:41:42,440 you want it deferred for 90 days. You know, I are going to appreciate comments to improve 1825 02:41:42,440 --> 02:41:48,940 and to the extent that was your motive opposed to just trying to kill it and make it into 1826 02:41:48,940 --> 02:41:54,740 something that you want it to be to create a platform for yourself, then that would have been fine. 1827 02:41:54,740 --> 02:42:00,420 to send in, you know, comments and hey, suggestive language language, which by the way we did 1828 02:42:00,420 --> 02:42:07,060 add during our last peck meeting, when we talked about trespassing, that language was particularly 1829 02:42:07,060 --> 02:42:13,880 asked, not all people that are unhoused want to be housed. And some folks are sending up in 1830 02:42:13,880 --> 02:42:19,960 campments in unsafe areas. What we want to do is regulate and protect those individuals in 1831 02:42:19,960 --> 02:42:25,720 addition to people that are trying to affect the buy. I think the commissioner, Mr. 1832 02:42:26,280 --> 02:42:27,540 Commissioner Patrick, for its opportunity. 1833 02:42:28,740 --> 02:42:33,860 Thank you, Madam Presiding Officer. Commissioner Spears, Madam Chair, to my colleague, 1834 02:42:34,140 --> 02:42:39,000 if you could afford that email one more time, I apologize. I did not read that. It sounded 1835 02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:42,840 it did sound very uncertain a lot of things, but I would appreciate being able to read that. 1836 02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:53,040 Absolutely, you know, we are in a situation where we have two people that are right, or we have two opinions that seem to be right. 1837 02:42:53,860 --> 02:42:57,160 There is a concern with the homelessness, even up in District 1. 1838 02:42:57,640 --> 02:43:02,260 Of course we can remember some of the events that happened in Atlanta over the summer. 1839 02:43:04,570 --> 02:43:15,330 At the Crowger at Shanley Tucker Road, there is homeless folks that are coming up and engaging with people when they're coming back with their groceries. 1840 02:43:16,750 --> 02:43:24,310 Again, Pleasantdale Road has a phenomenal amount of people that are panhandling, seemingly homeless in the area. 1841 02:43:24,970 --> 02:43:33,210 We have tried cleaning up UPS, the property across the street is where everyone moved, we tried clean that up and then they've moved down towards 1842 02:43:34,550 --> 02:43:39,210 Evan's road is another area that we're having a lot of activity, hearing reports of activities 1843 02:43:39,210 --> 02:43:43,650 around Mercer's campus, hearing reports again around activity around shallowford 1844 02:43:43,650 --> 02:43:43,870 road. 1845 02:43:44,950 --> 02:43:46,170 So, there is a concern. 1846 02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:54,030 I too, or I should say back, I guess, back in 23, 24, put forward a resolution saying 1847 02:43:54,030 --> 02:43:56,970 that we should find other ways besides arresting people. 1848 02:43:57,210 --> 02:44:02,390 And I think that everyone up here agrees with the notion that jail does not fix mental health 1849 02:44:02,390 --> 02:44:02,830 problems. 1850 02:44:02,830 --> 02:44:06,450 And so that is a concern, I think, we all share universally. 1851 02:44:10,520 --> 02:44:21,760 If you were comfortable with your motion to the October 27 BOC, with the prior stop or 1852 02:44:21,760 --> 02:44:28,400 stop at the PECS committee, I think that might be something because I do like what was suggested 1853 02:44:28,400 --> 02:44:29,800 by the director. 1854 02:44:32,200 --> 02:44:36,480 But I recognize also we have what's happened at the state legislature, which is this notion 1855 02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:42,680 that residents are empowered to sue the local authority and that'll be to cab county who's 1856 02:44:42,680 --> 02:44:46,960 responsible for human services as my understanding goes and I just want to make sure 1857 02:44:46,960 --> 02:44:51,760 that the county does have some level of protection to be able to present to a court that says 1858 02:44:51,760 --> 02:44:59,220 we have done something that suggests homelessness is a challenge that we're trying to address. 1859 02:44:59,220 --> 02:44:59,960 we also 1860 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:13,600 So I have, of course, the HIV that was recently approved that I think is a phenomenal step going towards addressing that, but I would be comfortable with a shorter time frame, but a little more in-depth conversation on that topic. 1861 02:45:14,540 --> 02:45:17,400 And one more thing to add since I got my two minutes and 17 seconds. 1862 02:45:18,260 --> 02:45:24,000 You know, it would be ideal also if we could bring back the joint statement that was prepared, 1863 02:45:24,040 --> 02:45:33,540 I guess, from the CEO, as well as the commission in this ongoing conversation, you'll 1864 02:45:33,540 --> 02:45:33,920 back my time. 1865 02:45:34,260 --> 02:45:38,100 So I'm clear, and I think we're all clear, you're asking Commissioner Patrick, you're asking 1866 02:45:38,100 --> 02:45:41,720 for a friendly amendment from the substitute motion for the commissioner on Spheres May. 1867 02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:45,000 If she would consider that, I think that would be a... 1868 02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:46,420 May I respond, Madame Pia? 1869 02:45:46,420 --> 02:45:53,940 Yes. So yes, I will accept that friendly amendment to October 22nd, 27th, whether you 1870 02:45:53,940 --> 02:45:59,420 set a stop in committee or committees. So one question I do have for the sponsor of the 1871 02:45:59,420 --> 02:46:04,080 item. And then I'm going to respond to that one piece. Okay, that's why we'll do that. I'll include 1872 02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:08,100 the other part of my follow-up. No problem. Yes, I accept your friendly amendment. Thank you. 1873 02:46:08,660 --> 02:46:11,640 Thank you. Commissioner Davis Johnson, you have the floor next. 1874 02:46:20,180 --> 02:46:22,680 Yeah. I think we're talking 1875 02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:32,940 of a very complex issue, you know, it's not black and white, you know, and I understand 1876 02:46:34,780 --> 02:46:47,280 what Commissioner Masa is attempting to do, I understand some of the things that you're 1877 02:46:47,280 --> 02:47:00,440 a couple of weeks ago, and a lady got out of a car with the child came up to me and said 1878 02:47:00,440 --> 02:47:05,740 that they needed to get home. They didn't have any gas. When I have a good gas that I don't 1879 02:47:05,740 --> 02:47:20,860 I went in the store, charged $10 worth of gas for her, and as I was walking out, I saw a man 1880 02:47:20,860 --> 02:47:28,700 get out of the car, go into the store and I went back into the store and bought a six-pack 1881 02:47:28,700 --> 02:47:41,820 be it. And that is not the norm, but it happens where individuals are harassed, taking advantage 1882 02:47:41,820 --> 02:47:53,700 of manipulated. And so I think that something needs to be in place. Now, is it a compromise 1883 02:47:53,700 --> 02:48:05,760 on calling what Dr. Ferguson stated, I don't know because it's compromised and really looked 1884 02:48:05,760 --> 02:48:17,020 at it, but I think that, you know, I don't see about 30 day at the most of 30 day 1885 02:48:17,020 --> 02:48:26,840 for all, could not achieve what we're trying to do and that is to make sure that we are 1886 02:48:26,840 --> 02:48:40,180 not from housing to make sure that we are not compromising the homeless at the same time 1887 02:48:40,180 --> 02:48:49,700 not risked in the safety of the public, so can I give a substitute that we got a first? 1888 02:48:50,520 --> 02:49:01,180 So I would give a friendly amendment, a second friendly amendment, for a 30 day deferral, rather than... 1889 02:49:01,180 --> 02:49:03,900 Let me make sure we can do two family amendments. 1890 02:49:05,160 --> 02:49:05,200 Yes. 1891 02:49:05,260 --> 02:49:05,420 Yes. 1892 02:49:06,320 --> 02:49:10,000 As I followed, you had a motion from the sponsor. 1893 02:49:10,280 --> 02:49:14,620 You had a substitute motion from Commissioner Spears. 1894 02:49:15,060 --> 02:49:19,660 Commissioner Spears accepted a friendly amendment from Commissioner Patrick. 1895 02:49:20,340 --> 02:49:23,980 And now Commissioner Davis Johnson is offering another friendly amendment. 1896 02:49:25,000 --> 02:49:28,060 If Commissioner Spears accepts it, it can be accepted. 1897 02:49:29,180 --> 02:49:29,260 Okay. 1898 02:49:29,260 --> 02:49:30,920 Thank you for the clarification. 1899 02:49:32,840 --> 02:49:45,780 If the first proposal of a friend leave is comfortable with the 30 days, I will accept the second proposal of a friendly amendment, but I think he needs to maybe provide that. 1900 02:49:45,780 --> 02:49:46,300 I'm comfortable with that. 1901 02:49:46,560 --> 02:49:51,580 And the idea of us being collaborative and working towards a solution, I think is a good thing right there. 1902 02:49:52,220 --> 02:49:53,560 Okay. So if you're good with 30 days. 1903 02:49:53,880 --> 02:49:55,900 All right. So yes, ma'am, I will accept that friendly amendment. 1904 02:49:56,360 --> 02:49:56,840 Thank you. 1905 02:49:56,840 --> 02:49:59,960 Okay, and do you can see your time commissioning day was done? 1906 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:05,360 All right. Thank you. So, still going off first round. So, next for first round is Commissioner Terry. 1907 02:50:08,260 --> 02:50:31,060 Thank you. Madam chair. I was at the last text meeting where this was discussed. I believe, Zach Chief Patrick was going to provide an SOP on how to cap police would handle the enforcement of this ordinance. So, is that it's been completed or that they need more time? 1908 02:50:31,060 --> 02:50:32,780 Right, so that has not been completed. 1909 02:50:32,960 --> 02:50:34,880 I believe that that was working. 1910 02:50:35,300 --> 02:50:37,440 It would be done post adoption. 1911 02:50:37,720 --> 02:50:40,200 We could certainly do it in advance. 1912 02:50:41,020 --> 02:50:43,960 But I think the thinking was, if the board adopts it, 1913 02:50:44,020 --> 02:50:45,840 then we would have to put in place in SOP. 1914 02:50:47,080 --> 02:50:53,060 Well, I think it would be good for us to have a little foresight. 1915 02:50:54,260 --> 02:50:56,140 I'd hate to pass a law and then not 1916 02:50:56,140 --> 02:50:59,940 know exactly how it's going to be enforced or implemented. 1917 02:50:59,940 --> 02:51:04,900 I think all of us are concerned about all of the issues, 1918 02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:07,980 really, the homelessness, certainly commiserate with anyone 1919 02:51:07,980 --> 02:51:10,940 that's been accosted or harassed. 1920 02:51:11,740 --> 02:51:14,520 That does happen, and it probably happens a lot. 1921 02:51:15,160 --> 02:51:17,560 But at the same time, we know that a lot of individuals 1922 02:51:17,560 --> 02:51:19,320 are really struggling out there. 1923 02:51:20,280 --> 02:51:24,380 And so, visits by the outreach team, visit by the crisis team, 1924 02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:28,100 and then also visits by the police, are our ways to interact 1925 02:51:28,100 --> 02:51:34,560 with individuals where the public is not equipped to deal with that situation other than maybe 1926 02:51:34,560 --> 02:51:40,680 buy them some gas or get them some water. Really what they're needing is a level of service 1927 02:51:40,680 --> 02:51:49,440 and wrap around treatment that hopefully addresses the root issue that's involved. The 1928 02:51:49,440 --> 02:51:54,880 fat committee has been discussing this issue in particular and I'll just throw out three numbers 1929 02:51:54,880 --> 02:52:00,180 for everyone's consideration. I had brought this up before to the Board of Commissioners, but 1930 02:52:00,180 --> 02:52:10,800 700 people, 400 days, and $28 million. 700 people at any one time throughout a calendar year 1931 02:52:11,400 --> 02:52:18,100 are in the DeCab County jail for a criminal trespass arrest, which means they were arrested on 1932 02:52:18,100 --> 02:52:25,280 private property, not public private property, private property, that also have a diagnosis 1933 02:52:25,280 --> 02:52:28,760 of a mental health condition or a substance abuse issue. 1934 02:52:31,140 --> 02:52:37,160 Because the State Department, DVHDD, has been behind on their evaluations, those individuals 1935 02:52:37,160 --> 02:52:40,480 are in the Cap County jail for an average of 400 days. 1936 02:52:41,120 --> 02:52:46,220 So earlier, when we heard public comment about the cost, the Sheriff's Department through 1937 02:52:46,220 --> 02:52:53,020 Director Karim Martin, the Chief Health Officer, has provided a number of $28 million that we 1938 02:52:53,020 --> 02:53:00,020 provide to the Sheriff's budget to basically fund that census and that demographic. 1939 02:53:01,560 --> 02:53:08,400 I think the reason why the SOP is so important is that one, we already know that homeless individuals 1940 02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:11,840 are being arrested for being homeless on private property. 1941 02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:18,480 And it is resulting in during a calendar year, 700 people that are in our care. 1942 02:53:19,240 --> 02:53:23,940 We heard from Judge Jacobs, who actually shared with us that he's received these cases 1943 02:53:23,940 --> 02:53:31,540 in state court and has given bail under state law, cash bail is required for a whole host 1944 02:53:31,540 --> 02:53:39,100 of new offenses, including this one, which would be like a trespass, and even when he 1945 02:53:39,100 --> 02:53:47,640 the bail at $1 individuals are not able to fulfill that $1 and of course, even if they could, 1946 02:53:48,220 --> 02:53:56,140 once they're released where they go, as also as mentioned. I have been advocating for a new and 1947 02:53:56,140 --> 02:54:03,600 expanded crisis center for going on six years now, Zach. We made the decision a couple months back 1948 02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:06,540 to take the 15 million for mental health facilities 1949 02:54:06,540 --> 02:54:10,240 and dispersant to other programs, not in the crisis center. 1950 02:54:10,780 --> 02:54:12,340 So we're kind of at square one. 1951 02:54:12,840 --> 02:54:16,940 But I think we have an opportunity to create a hybrid approach 1952 02:54:16,940 --> 02:54:20,740 where we could have a crisis and diversion center 1953 02:54:20,740 --> 02:54:24,320 that would allow 10, 13s and 10, 14s to be received. 1954 02:54:24,420 --> 02:54:30,280 And so in other words, an officer that might respond to an urban camp 1955 02:54:30,280 --> 02:54:38,800 on a public, you know, right away or in a park would have the discretion to say, I will detain 1956 02:54:38,800 --> 02:54:43,120 this person under a 10, 13, 10, 10, 14, but instead of taking them to be booked into the 1957 02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:47,360 Cap County jail, which then begins the whole thing that I just talked about. They're going to 1958 02:54:47,360 --> 02:54:51,220 the diversion center, and hopefully through that diversion center, they're getting treatment, 1959 02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:59,960 they're getting temporary housing, and then as all of us up here have supported, we're trying to 1960 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:05,540 The report of housing and just more housing of affordable varieties moving forward. 1961 02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:10,940 So I think those few things are going to be important before we move forward on this. 1962 02:55:11,200 --> 02:55:11,340 Thank you. 1963 02:55:14,100 --> 02:55:17,320 So Commissioner Longspirers, you're next for your second opportunity. 1964 02:55:19,360 --> 02:55:22,540 Thank you very much. I appreciate that Madam President Officer. 1965 02:55:22,540 --> 02:55:34,280 I do want to express to two of my colleagues Commissioner Patrick Commissioner Davis, Johnson, for recognizing the complexity of this issue and that we just need more time. 1966 02:55:35,340 --> 02:55:46,900 All right, we, I was provided an analysis of the current urban camping ordinance, or at least the one prior to the substitute, which was sent to us by email yesterday. 1967 02:55:46,900 --> 02:55:54,180 And there are several points that I wanted to elevate to the community I am limited on time, so I will be brief and move quickly. 1968 02:55:54,960 --> 02:56:00,840 The very first item does relate to the resolution for effective response to homelessness. 1969 02:56:01,980 --> 02:56:06,020 A 24-1233 that was adopted in January of 2026. 1970 02:56:07,100 --> 02:56:14,000 I believe that the substitute that was distributed may be addressing that piece, 1971 02:56:14,000 --> 02:56:20,300 piece, or that's the substitute piece, the addition to the substitute that was distributed 1972 02:56:20,300 --> 02:56:22,320 to us today, and then previously last night. 1973 02:56:23,580 --> 02:56:27,780 The concerns there were recommending, actually, let me just skip through and I'll come 1974 02:56:27,780 --> 02:56:28,980 back if I have more time. 1975 02:56:29,440 --> 02:56:34,860 The second suggestion we'd like for the sponsor and this board to consider over the next 30 1976 02:56:34,860 --> 02:56:41,540 days is to cap public safety capacity to enforce this legislation as severely limited, including 1977 02:56:41,540 --> 02:56:47,720 space at the jail as been previously noted by our sheriff. Point 3 to cab county and its 1978 02:56:47,720 --> 02:56:52,840 unhouse service partners are currently dedicating numerous resources via the unhouse plan 1979 02:56:52,840 --> 02:56:58,120 to follow through on the joint policy statement, resolution by designing coordinating and launching 1980 02:56:58,120 --> 02:57:03,240 a collaborative systemic service-based approach to reduce the number of unhoused families 1981 02:57:03,240 --> 02:57:08,920 and individuals into cab county. This ordinance will undermine the work being done before it can 1982 02:57:08,920 --> 02:57:15,340 be implemented, wasting the substantial county and service partner resources being allocated to it, 1983 02:57:15,520 --> 02:57:21,020 by replacing it with explicit criminalization and little accountability for our diversionary 1984 02:57:21,020 --> 02:57:25,540 priority area already established by the Board of Commissioners. 1985 02:57:26,020 --> 02:57:31,660 Point four, the version of the legislation that has been in front of us since June again, 1986 02:57:31,840 --> 02:57:37,760 the substitute received last night distributed today. This is the legislation before the commission 1987 02:57:37,760 --> 02:57:43,440 has no substantial modification since being introduced, despite clear desire from county departments 1988 02:57:43,440 --> 02:57:48,400 and stakeholders to do so, I did read comments from Dr. Ferguson. I also have comments 1989 02:57:48,400 --> 02:57:52,780 from Director Mitchell as well. The result of adopting this ordinance will be a fully 1990 02:57:53,660 --> 02:57:58,740 contradictory set of vague and unaccountable directives, forcing law enforcement to interpret 1991 02:57:58,740 --> 02:58:01,200 and navigate competing goals. 1992 02:58:01,900 --> 02:58:06,200 Number four, proposed legislation does not consider the real life impact of its enforcement 1993 02:58:06,200 --> 02:58:11,440 on unhoused persons, or how it could exacerbate conditions causing people to be unhoused. 1994 02:58:12,400 --> 02:58:15,780 I'd like to leave you guys with this. 1995 02:58:16,860 --> 02:58:21,160 Director Mitchell did stated in email that, in his opinion, the current urban campaign 1996 02:58:21,160 --> 02:58:23,920 ordinance, which was received on June 8. 1997 02:58:25,600 --> 02:58:27,380 Thank you very much. 1998 02:58:27,540 --> 02:58:28,160 I yield back. 1999 02:58:28,420 --> 02:58:28,600 All right. 2000 02:58:28,740 --> 02:58:30,340 Can I share my sigh for your second opportunity? 2001 02:58:30,460 --> 02:58:31,900 Thank you so much again. 2002 02:58:32,200 --> 02:58:32,980 I just reiterate. 2003 02:58:32,980 --> 02:58:39,280 This isn't a focus on attacking the on-house and a housing ordinance. 2004 02:58:39,720 --> 02:58:45,700 This is more to address certain behaviors that pose a risk of public safety. 2005 02:58:46,700 --> 02:58:51,360 I'm not certain why, you know, many times it's been reiterated and the opportunity 2006 02:58:51,360 --> 02:58:59,540 over the last 60 days, most of the pegs meeting that my colleague here in opposition has missed. 2007 02:58:59,540 --> 02:59:12,380 There's been plenty of opportunity to make suggestions for changes that, and to discuss and accept the fact that this is not focusing on jailing the un-house. 2008 02:59:13,100 --> 02:59:24,640 As with any issue related to trespassing and the like, our officers are afforded opportunity to use discretion. 2009 02:59:24,640 --> 02:59:32,160 It doesn't mean that people have to go from zero to 60 and go to jail or that they have to go to jail at all. 2010 02:59:32,480 --> 02:59:39,280 So this idea that it's jailing the un-house is grossly misleading and incorrect. 2011 02:59:39,860 --> 02:59:43,880 There is a difference between panhandling and vagrancy. 2012 02:59:45,440 --> 02:59:50,480 So some people do panhandle as Commissioner Davis Johnson had suggested. 2013 02:59:50,480 --> 02:59:55,700 Sometimes people are down on their look and at the gas station just need a couple of dollars. 2014 02:59:56,120 --> 02:59:58,260 However, and they will ask. 2015 02:59:58,820 --> 02:59:59,840 And accept a note. 2016 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:13,440 However, there are some people that will stay at a particular location and harass individuals and make it difficult for them to just go into their local gas station to get gas in the morning. 2017 03:00:13,840 --> 03:00:26,580 And to that, what we want to do is make sure we are addressing the opportunity for our officers who realize that in the folks that have an issue with it to say, it is creating a safety challenge for me. 2018 03:00:26,580 --> 03:00:29,700 And I need it to stop police. 2019 03:00:30,300 --> 03:00:32,760 Again, this is not an attack on the House. 2020 03:00:33,260 --> 03:00:36,020 I wish that my colleague here to, 2021 03:00:36,820 --> 03:00:38,960 that's an opposition was at our last peck meeting 2022 03:00:38,960 --> 03:00:41,300 because that joint statement 2023 03:00:41,300 --> 03:00:44,580 was included in paragraph four. 2024 03:00:44,920 --> 03:00:48,060 And that comes specifically based on the conversations 2025 03:00:48,060 --> 03:00:50,500 that have been had with our, 2026 03:00:50,500 --> 03:00:52,460 the folks from our sheriff's department 2027 03:00:52,460 --> 03:00:55,000 from our police department 2028 03:00:55,000 --> 03:00:58,620 and also being present in our PEX meeting. 2029 03:00:59,240 --> 03:01:03,700 And so not participating in just standing on the idea 2030 03:01:03,700 --> 03:01:07,180 that is attacking the unhoused and trying to jail the unhoused 2031 03:01:07,180 --> 03:01:09,680 is misrepresenting the situation 2032 03:01:09,680 --> 03:01:11,920 and I think that it should stop. 2033 03:01:12,520 --> 03:01:14,780 We have to address this concern. 2034 03:01:15,360 --> 03:01:17,240 We don't want what happened in Atlanta 2035 03:01:17,240 --> 03:01:19,960 to unfortunately happen to another person 2036 03:01:19,960 --> 03:01:23,760 and we want to be in compliance with what's being requested 2037 03:01:23,760 --> 03:01:32,600 and mandated to be quite frank from HB-295. This is a footing, our officers, to use discretion 2038 03:01:32,600 --> 03:01:34,720 as they do always. Thank you. 2039 03:01:34,820 --> 03:01:38,320 Thank you, Mr. Messiah. Mr. Terry, your second opportunity. 2040 03:01:39,280 --> 03:01:48,040 Thank you, Madam Chair. Zach, can you update us on how many members of the outreach team 2041 03:01:48,040 --> 03:01:51,260 or how many outreach team, I guess, staff do we have currently 2042 03:01:52,460 --> 03:01:54,400 that covers unincorporated cab gang? 2043 03:01:54,560 --> 03:01:55,220 I'm very close around. 2044 03:01:55,300 --> 03:01:57,620 Yeah, I want to say four off the top of my head commissioner, 2045 03:01:57,860 --> 03:01:58,680 but I'll double check. 2046 03:02:00,860 --> 03:02:03,560 And then there's some with frontline. 2047 03:02:04,040 --> 03:02:05,220 I don't know that number though. 2048 03:02:07,240 --> 03:02:11,320 So I think that one of the other concerns 2049 03:02:13,460 --> 03:02:22,540 with the implementation of the ordinance is if an officer responds to a situation, then 2050 03:02:23,110 --> 03:02:30,900 do they have a place to send someone or they call in, you know, the crisis team, Clare 2051 03:02:30,900 --> 03:02:33,600 Tell, that outreach team. 2052 03:02:34,300 --> 03:02:38,920 So in other words, it's not treated as a crime, it's treated as a, we're responding to 2053 03:02:38,920 --> 03:02:41,040 situation that someone has concerned about, right? 2054 03:02:41,120 --> 03:02:43,860 Someone is acting erratically on the sidewalk. 2055 03:02:44,120 --> 03:02:46,020 Or maybe they put up a tent on the sidewalk. 2056 03:02:46,540 --> 03:02:48,220 And we don't know what's going on. 2057 03:02:48,440 --> 03:02:49,680 Officers might respond. 2058 03:02:50,700 --> 03:02:53,140 But then, you know, is the backup there to say, 2059 03:02:53,460 --> 03:02:55,040 actually, we don't need to send someone to jail 2060 03:02:55,040 --> 03:02:55,620 or rest them. 2061 03:02:55,720 --> 03:02:56,800 We have the day center. 2062 03:02:56,860 --> 03:02:58,080 We have front lawn. 2063 03:02:58,100 --> 03:03:02,100 We have other things that are working on that can intercede. 2064 03:03:03,140 --> 03:03:05,560 So it's a co-responder model. 2065 03:03:05,560 --> 03:03:12,440 So that's kind of what I'm looking for from the administration in response to this ordinance 2066 03:03:12,440 --> 03:03:17,600 is if this past, would there have to be an expanded co-responder system, 2067 03:03:17,820 --> 03:03:19,860 but we have to have more outreach team members? 2068 03:03:20,860 --> 03:03:25,140 Because I assume right now if someone wants to report an incantment, 2069 03:03:26,020 --> 03:03:28,380 is it your advice that they call 911? 2070 03:03:28,920 --> 03:03:30,220 Do they call 311? 2071 03:03:31,060 --> 03:03:32,860 Do they email commissioners? 2072 03:03:32,860 --> 03:03:39,760 How would the members person, I think 3-1-1 or we have an outreach number, I couldn't 2073 03:03:39,760 --> 03:03:46,280 recite off top of my head, but between our team and community development and frontline, 2074 03:03:46,480 --> 03:03:52,620 I think those would be more appropriate for the encampments or the person who looks as if 2075 03:03:52,620 --> 03:04:01,400 they need help in our system is designed fairly well for that and we do have our staff will go out 2076 03:04:01,400 --> 03:04:08,040 front line staff and offer assistance. That works well when one accepts the assistance. 2077 03:04:08,940 --> 03:04:11,900 When they don't accept the assistance, it's more complicated. 2078 03:04:13,080 --> 03:04:17,720 I think that's where I think a lot of folks, including myself, have concern with the 2079 03:04:17,720 --> 03:04:25,880 ordinance, is that other jurisdictions that have implemented similar laws, my research shows 2080 03:04:25,880 --> 03:04:30,720 that they do in fact incarcerate more individuals. And so we're just trying to follow the data 2081 03:04:30,720 --> 03:04:34,720 and the evidence, when urban camping law bans are passed, 2082 03:04:35,160 --> 03:04:36,220 more people are arrested, 2083 03:04:36,380 --> 03:04:38,460 and that's exactly what we've all agreed 2084 03:04:38,460 --> 03:04:39,600 that we don't want to see happen. 2085 03:04:41,100 --> 03:04:42,300 Thank you, Commissioner Terry. 2086 03:04:42,540 --> 03:04:45,540 Commissioner Davis, Johnson and your second opportunity to speak. 2087 03:04:49,250 --> 03:04:59,110 Yeah, so I'd like to just stay once more of that. 2088 03:04:59,130 --> 03:04:59,490 Housing. 2089 03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:07,460 The housing problem is not just the housing problem in the care county. It's the housing problem nationwide. 2090 03:05:09,020 --> 03:05:15,600 The middle health problem is just not a problem in the care county. It's nationwide. 2091 03:05:16,840 --> 03:05:22,940 I mean, this is something that the federal government started. 2092 03:05:22,940 --> 03:05:30,560 and the local governments are having to deal with it so it's not fair to put that 2093 03:05:30,560 --> 03:05:38,740 problem on one person or even this commission. But this commission must deal 2094 03:05:38,740 --> 03:05:50,100 with it as an effect to cap County and that's what we are trying to do. Take the 2095 03:05:50,100 --> 03:05:58,580 take side of it, take the publicity out of it, and let's deal with it. You know, middle 2096 03:05:58,580 --> 03:06:10,560 health. If you don't, and I do family law, if you don't take your medication that you 2097 03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:20,780 describe, to take, you can't force it. I have it in my family. If you don't take your 2098 03:06:20,780 --> 03:06:30,620 medication, you can injure someone. You can kill someone. You can main someone. Now, you 2099 03:06:30,620 --> 03:06:38,440 can talk about it in the abstract until an episode, or your family member. So, like I said, 2100 03:06:38,440 --> 03:06:47,420 is complex, is something that we ought to deal with, is something that was put upon us with 2101 03:06:47,420 --> 03:06:56,700 no funds. In fact the federal funds that they had for both housing and mental health is taken 2102 03:06:56,700 --> 03:07:05,180 away, has been taken away for months. So this is not a district problem. This is a national 2103 03:07:05,180 --> 03:07:10,980 problem, and if we treat it like we should treat it with compassion, 2104 03:07:13,310 --> 03:07:16,010 with humbleness, with 2105 03:07:16,010 --> 03:07:26,250 understanding, then we should be able to come to a resolution that is going to keep the public 2106 03:07:28,990 --> 03:07:40,030 And also is not going to jail the homeless for being homeless, you know, so that's my final thoughts. 2107 03:07:40,810 --> 03:07:41,370 Thank you, Commissioner. 2108 03:07:41,690 --> 03:07:42,910 We're really Davis Johnson. 2109 03:07:43,170 --> 03:07:44,310 Madam President, no officer. 2110 03:07:44,870 --> 03:07:45,950 Point of procedure, please. 2111 03:07:46,410 --> 03:07:46,890 Yes, ma'am. 2112 03:07:47,130 --> 03:07:47,730 Thank you. 2113 03:07:48,010 --> 03:07:55,650 It has been elevated that by the sponsor that this is not a housing issue, that it's a public safety issue. 2114 03:07:55,650 --> 03:07:57,910 So she doesn't have to respond now. 2115 03:07:58,070 --> 03:08:02,110 I just wonder if the chair of our public safety committee 2116 03:08:02,110 --> 03:08:04,750 would consider hearing this item and herbs. 2117 03:08:04,910 --> 03:08:05,990 Thank you, Neil Beck. 2118 03:08:06,690 --> 03:08:10,090 We will take that to consideration and talk about it offline. 2119 03:08:10,370 --> 03:08:11,330 Thank you very much. 2120 03:08:12,090 --> 03:08:14,310 So I just want to confirm, I believe, 2121 03:08:14,530 --> 03:08:16,390 the second friendly amendment was accepted 2122 03:08:16,390 --> 03:08:19,930 for a 30 day deferral commissioner long spears. 2123 03:08:20,250 --> 03:08:22,110 So does that mean September 29th? 2124 03:08:22,110 --> 03:08:23,190 I just want to make sure we're clear. 2125 03:08:23,190 --> 03:08:40,230 Yes, ma'am. September 29th with a stop in a committee that'd be willing to hear it. Thank you so much. So that is the motion on the floor attorney folks want to make sure the substitute item. Yes, this is what's being deferred. Right. Yes. 2126 03:08:41,110 --> 03:08:50,030 With the second friendly amendment 30 days of for all September 29th of the prior stop and committee. Please open machine for the 2127 03:08:54,770 --> 03:08:57,770 motion to defer carries. Thank you very much. 2128 03:08:57,770 --> 03:09:03,230 So we have two more items I'd like to get to, and then great for a working lunch. 2129 03:09:03,370 --> 03:09:09,830 We have executive session to discuss legislation, litigation, thank you, thank you, 2130 03:09:09,990 --> 03:09:10,330 ten folks. 2131 03:09:10,970 --> 03:09:18,450 So top of page 20, item 2026-1216 District 3, budget amendment to increase the general fund 2132 03:09:18,450 --> 03:09:23,050 for recreation parks and cultural affairs, sugar creak tennis and golf to address the 2133 03:09:23,050 --> 03:09:28,230 and retention wall for the third tennis court amount not to exceed $800,000. 2134 03:09:28,670 --> 03:09:29,230 Look for action. 2135 03:09:30,030 --> 03:09:33,050 I don't 2020-6-1-2-1-9. 2136 03:09:33,830 --> 03:09:38,750 Commission to Cirque-3 budget amendment to increase the general fund for recreation parks and cultural affairs, 2137 03:09:38,910 --> 03:09:41,210 for a Porter Center for Performing Arts and Community Center, 2138 03:09:42,090 --> 03:09:46,250 to address required equipment improvements in amount not to exceed $79,000. 2139 03:09:46,970 --> 03:09:52,370 moved for action, motion to defer agenda items ending in 12, 16 and 12, 19, the September 2140 03:09:52,370 --> 03:09:59,970 15, VOC meeting as it was improved in PECS. But I think that it was all. 2141 03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:15,060 Also, I want to point, discuss in fab as well. The fab chair was there, present. Are you fine with this just being in pecs and is there more discussion that you want to have or in around it? 2142 03:10:17,670 --> 03:10:26,410 I think we were waiting on, I think we were waiting on Zach and TJ to come back to the fab committee on just sort of the budget sources or the funding source, I just say. 2143 03:10:26,410 --> 03:10:28,650 So I think what we're right now, 2144 03:10:28,750 --> 03:10:29,850 pecs is recommended approval. 2145 03:10:29,970 --> 03:10:34,070 It's now in fab for the next step in the budget process. 2146 03:10:34,770 --> 03:10:36,170 So we're happy to hear that afternoon 2147 03:10:36,170 --> 03:10:39,870 if the administration has any updates on their end. 2148 03:10:40,850 --> 03:10:41,450 All right, thank you. 2149 03:10:41,530 --> 03:10:44,290 So the motion is to defer until September 15th. 2150 03:10:44,610 --> 03:10:46,150 With the prior stop and fact. 2151 03:10:46,550 --> 03:10:46,810 Thank you. 2152 03:10:47,670 --> 03:10:48,150 Second. 2153 03:10:48,910 --> 03:10:50,050 And that's for both items. 2154 03:10:50,730 --> 03:10:52,290 Please open the machine for the vote. 2155 03:10:56,220 --> 03:10:57,000 Thank you so much. 2156 03:10:57,480 --> 03:10:59,880 If I can get a motion for executive session, 2157 03:10:59,880 --> 03:11:04,560 So moved to the second picture button, and that is for litigation. 2158 03:11:08,420 --> 03:11:10,040 He's open the machine for the vote. 2159 03:11:13,240 --> 03:11:16,360 We are an executive session that is a working watch. 2160 03:11:19,520 --> 03:11:20,020 Good to see you. 2161 04:01:08,240 --> 04:01:15,680 Good afternoon, everybody. If I can get a motion to reconvene, so moved. We need hit our buttons, ma'am. 2162 04:01:18,920 --> 04:01:19,960 Thank you. 2163 04:01:24,800 --> 04:01:36,320 Building is open. Thank you so much. We are back. There was no action to be taken out of executive session. So we will continue. We are at the bottom of page 20. 2164 04:01:36,320 --> 04:01:39,280 A district six item, but it's in PEX. 2165 04:01:39,880 --> 04:01:44,480 Item 2025-0015, all-commissioned districts. 2166 04:01:45,180 --> 04:01:47,180 An ordinance to amend the code of the cab county 2167 04:01:47,180 --> 04:01:50,440 Georgia chapter 16 pertaining to regulation of sound 2168 04:01:50,440 --> 04:01:51,880 and for other purposes. 2169 04:01:52,160 --> 04:01:54,620 Well, for action, thank you, man. 2170 04:01:55,700 --> 04:02:00,860 That moves us over to page 23. 2171 04:02:00,860 --> 04:02:09,800 I don't 2025-0017 all commission districts a resolution to create an electric landscape 2172 04:02:09,800 --> 04:02:16,660 maintenance device rebate program to encourage switching from gas power to landscape maintenance devices 2173 04:02:16,660 --> 04:02:19,000 and for other lawful purposes. 2174 04:02:19,000 --> 04:02:31,120 Move for action, Madam Peo, I moved to defer agenda item ending in 0 0 1 5 and 0 0 1 7 to our September 15th BOC meeting. 2175 04:02:31,900 --> 04:02:39,960 It is still being held in committee for the sponsor to make some final decisions before we move this along and bring it to the rest of the board. 2176 04:02:40,620 --> 04:02:41,540 Thank you for the second. 2177 04:02:41,540 --> 04:02:45,200 Seconded by Commissioner Long Spears, please open the machine for the vote. 2178 04:02:50,040 --> 04:03:03,940 motion to defer carries, we are now page 25. I'm on 2025-1525, all-commissioned districts, in 2179 04:03:03,940 --> 04:03:07,780 ordinance him in the code of the cab county Georgia chapter 25, pretending to water 2180 04:03:07,780 --> 04:03:15,980 sewer, sewers in the sewage disposal and for other purposes, this is a fab item, 2181 04:03:18,910 --> 04:03:19,630 motion to table. 2182 04:03:19,630 --> 04:03:21,530 Thank you. 2183 04:03:24,360 --> 04:03:26,020 Thank you so much. 2184 04:03:27,780 --> 04:03:28,240 Thank you madam. 2185 04:03:28,460 --> 04:03:29,280 Deputy Presiding Officer. 2186 04:03:29,640 --> 04:03:31,840 You'll help me remember to take it off the table if we can. 2187 04:03:33,500 --> 04:03:34,040 That's 2188 04:03:40,570 --> 04:03:40,590 okay. 2189 04:03:40,590 --> 04:03:41,890 Commissioner Davis Johnson. 2190 04:03:42,750 --> 04:03:43,010 Okay. 2191 04:03:43,610 --> 04:03:43,950 That's okay. 2192 04:03:44,190 --> 04:03:45,010 It still carries. 2193 04:03:46,490 --> 04:03:46,790 All right. 2194 04:03:46,790 --> 04:03:49,290 Now page 27. 2195 04:03:50,810 --> 04:03:54,870 It's also a fab item item 2026-0158. 2196 04:03:56,190 --> 04:03:59,050 Super district six of resolution to establish the 2197 04:03:59,050 --> 04:04:04,050 care for the people dividend fund and fiscal stability policy, and I think we need a table 2198 04:04:04,050 --> 04:04:09,790 this one as well. Motion to. Actually, I grabbed the motion on that. Give me a quick 2199 04:04:09,790 --> 04:04:12,710 second. I have the recommendations for Fab. I believe. 2200 04:04:15,580 --> 04:04:18,860 We're on 27. Yeah, so it looks like it was 2201 04:04:18,860 --> 04:04:24,440 recommended holding in committee. Hey, so the committee recommendation for the August 25th meeting, 2202 04:04:24,440 --> 04:04:30,440 which is today, is to defer to the September 15th BOC meeting and we'll be heard in Fab today. 2203 04:04:30,440 --> 04:04:36,380 Thank you. And I get some on the second that please. Second. Thank you. 2204 04:04:37,260 --> 04:04:41,060 All right. That is a motion to defer. Please open the machine for the vote. 2205 04:04:42,060 --> 04:04:48,560 The motion to defer carries. I'm in 2026-0244 all commission districts. 2206 04:04:49,220 --> 04:04:55,960 A resolution requiring an independent third party health environmental study of data centers and their possible impact on the cab county. 2207 04:04:55,960 --> 04:04:59,960 and Board of Commissioners review with a study before the cab county status and 2208 04:05:06,680 --> 04:05:24,200 The motion on the second, motion on the second. Thank you, ma'am. He's up the machine for the vote. I mean, we're getting real efficient, we're just a women, I'm just saying. 2209 04:05:26,890 --> 04:05:30,890 I had to say it. I had to say it. Keep hurry and hurry hurry hurry. 2210 04:05:31,990 --> 04:05:33,510 They'll be back. 2211 04:05:33,510 --> 04:05:33,950 I know. 2212 04:05:34,230 --> 04:05:34,770 Okay, sorry. 2213 04:05:35,270 --> 04:05:36,530 Top of page 29. 2214 04:05:37,470 --> 04:05:38,190 I know 26. 2215 04:05:39,970 --> 04:05:40,570 That's 0. 2216 04:05:40,890 --> 04:05:41,110 76. 2217 04:05:42,290 --> 04:05:43,590 All Commission districts. 2218 04:05:44,070 --> 04:05:49,250 Resolution requesting the administration established independent civil civilian oversight and 2219 04:05:49,250 --> 04:05:53,810 auditing for the Cap County's digital shield initiatives and surveillance infrastructure. 2220 04:05:54,090 --> 04:05:55,490 This isn't upside down. 2221 04:05:55,670 --> 04:05:56,190 Yes, ma'am. 2222 04:05:56,390 --> 04:06:01,050 I'm moved to defer this item to the September 29 BOC with a prior stop in 2223 04:06:01,050 --> 04:06:05,410 Second. Thank you. Open the machine for that locally. 2224 04:06:08,850 --> 04:06:10,850 And bottom of page 20 in line at Motion 2225 04:06:10,850 --> 04:06:18,510 carries. Item 2026-098 to all commission districts. A resolution urging the administration 2226 04:06:18,510 --> 04:06:23,750 implement the specific recommendations outlined in the the Cap County racial equity study 2227 04:06:23,750 --> 04:06:33,090 as adopted in 2025. This is PEX. Thank you so much. I believe it was supposed to 2228 04:06:33,090 --> 04:06:34,630 we had discussed for a drum, 2229 04:06:37,130 --> 04:06:43,030 the administration started implementing specific recommendations and 2230 04:06:43,030 --> 04:06:50,250 provided those to us from the study and at this point I think we were comfortable with 2231 04:06:50,250 --> 04:06:57,710 the implementation since our colleague and sponsor of the urgence is here. Is there anything 2232 04:06:57,710 --> 04:07:01,450 else that you wanted to add to that in terms of recommendations for this item? 2233 04:07:01,450 --> 04:07:04,370 So, we're on the racial equity study item. 2234 04:07:05,230 --> 04:07:08,850 Yes, I think C.O. Williams presented all things to their being done. 2235 04:07:08,930 --> 04:07:13,150 We don't have a motion, so we probably need a motion before we discuss that. 2236 04:07:14,650 --> 04:07:15,690 Motion to a draw. 2237 04:07:16,170 --> 04:07:17,850 Yes, is a motion to a draw. 2238 04:07:18,190 --> 04:07:18,730 All right. 2239 04:07:18,970 --> 04:07:20,670 Now, if you would like for this session. 2240 04:07:21,250 --> 04:07:21,470 Yes. 2241 04:07:21,830 --> 04:07:26,370 Mr. Williams, if the committee meeting you laid out all of the things that are being done as 2242 04:07:26,370 --> 04:07:29,330 or released to the study, so thank you for doing that. 2243 04:07:29,430 --> 04:07:30,130 It's very comprehensive. 2244 04:07:30,130 --> 04:07:46,750 I really appreciate that, and thank you to Commissioner Leary Johnson and Commissioner Massiah for being champions for these really important issues, and I look forward to seeing the next steps of the community inclusion manager. 2245 04:07:47,510 --> 04:07:53,970 Yeah, that's the right name for it. And when that person comes to my mind, are y'all already you're actively searching for that position? 2246 04:07:54,390 --> 04:07:54,550 Okay. 2247 04:07:55,130 --> 04:07:55,950 Very good. Thank you. 2248 04:07:55,950 --> 04:07:56,550 Thank you. 2249 04:07:56,730 --> 04:07:56,750 Thank you. 2250 04:07:56,770 --> 04:07:59,390 Thank you very much. 2251 04:07:59,790 --> 04:08:05,390 Since this board is recommending withdrawal of this item, Mr. Williams, would you mind coming 2252 04:08:05,390 --> 04:08:09,970 to the podium and just telling the public why you suggested this was our best course 2253 04:08:09,970 --> 04:08:10,570 of action? 2254 04:08:11,370 --> 04:08:11,610 And what? 2255 04:08:11,670 --> 04:08:12,390 We're very grateful. 2256 04:08:12,470 --> 04:08:15,010 The administration is doing right now to carry this work for us. 2257 04:08:15,210 --> 04:08:15,270 Yes. 2258 04:08:15,430 --> 04:08:19,170 Thank you, Madam Residing Officer, to Commissioner Long Superior's question. 2259 04:08:19,170 --> 04:08:28,410 We feel that when we don't need a specific resolution, the fact is those elements of the 2260 04:08:28,410 --> 04:08:35,350 racial equity study that was completed a couple years back, the administration is actively 2261 04:08:35,350 --> 04:08:37,730 engaged in implementing. 2262 04:08:39,070 --> 04:08:46,710 So we just didn't even necessarily have an urging resolution or something to discuss things 2263 04:08:46,710 --> 04:08:47,270 that are happening. 2264 04:08:47,270 --> 04:08:54,070 So we have posted things on the website that allows for employees to gain additional information. 2265 04:08:54,350 --> 04:08:55,930 We've implemented training. 2266 04:08:56,410 --> 04:09:03,830 As Commissioner Terry mentioned, we're actively pursuing the hiring of an inclusion manager who will assist in these types of activities. 2267 04:09:04,550 --> 04:09:05,410 So the work is ongoing. 2268 04:09:05,790 --> 04:09:09,850 We're embracing the attendance of the original study. 2269 04:09:10,670 --> 04:09:11,990 So nothing further was needed. 2270 04:09:13,330 --> 04:09:18,850 Thank you, Sarah. I yield back. Thank you so much. Seeing no further requests to speak. Please open the 2271 04:09:18,850 --> 04:09:20,690 chain for the vote. 2272 04:09:26,340 --> 04:09:27,740 Motion to withdraw carries. 2273 04:09:28,100 --> 04:09:35,440 Medal of page 30. Item 2026-0218. All commission districts to establish where the regulatory 2274 04:09:35,440 --> 04:09:41,260 oversight of blasting operations into Cap County through the adoption of a control blasting 2275 04:09:41,260 --> 04:09:46,800 and safety ordinance to promote public safety environmental protection and community stability 2276 04:09:46,800 --> 04:09:54,380 for other purposes. On behalf of the Arts Committee, I proudly move to approve items 2277 04:09:54,380 --> 04:09:59,960 0-1-8. Then you are also the sponsor, right? Yes. 2278 04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:06,160 District 5 and District 7. Can you give her the honor of allowing her to have that second? 2279 04:10:06,800 --> 04:10:13,680 I was actually pushing my microphone. Thank you so much. 2280 04:10:13,920 --> 04:10:17,040 It's precious. I had to listen to us so much. 2281 04:10:19,820 --> 04:10:23,720 Thank you so much. Attorney Welch, welcome back. 2282 04:10:24,760 --> 04:10:31,960 Thank you, I think, apologies, but law needs an little additional time to look at this item. 2283 04:10:32,420 --> 04:10:37,020 There is one cross-reference, including in this item, to the sound ordinance. 2284 04:10:37,420 --> 04:10:41,920 The sound ordinance is being heard as I understand it impacts, and will be up for consideration 2285 04:10:41,920 --> 04:10:42,620 shortly. 2286 04:10:43,240 --> 04:10:48,020 We'd like to make sure that that cross-reference matches, whatever changes may or may not 2287 04:10:48,020 --> 04:10:53,240 be adopted to the sound ordinance, so we would ask that this item be deferred. 2288 04:10:53,240 --> 04:10:59,240 Let's sound moved first and then we'll move this in conformance with that as quickly as we possibly can. 2289 04:11:02,800 --> 04:11:12,020 So that is something that came up in committee and it only makes a reference but it doesn't speak to any of the sound regulations. 2290 04:11:13,180 --> 04:11:20,920 So the reference should support the item regardless of any changes that may be made. 2291 04:11:20,920 --> 04:11:26,900 I think our concern is important that it makes across reference that may not exist, depending 2292 04:11:26,900 --> 04:11:31,060 on what the final version of the sound ordinance actually looks like. 2293 04:11:31,420 --> 04:11:35,440 So we want to make sure that there's full consistency between the two provisions. 2294 04:11:37,780 --> 04:11:41,120 Okay, let's remove it and then we can come back in a minute, the ordinance. 2295 04:11:41,780 --> 04:11:43,060 Remove the reference? 2296 04:11:43,260 --> 04:11:44,620 Yep, remove the reference. 2297 04:11:45,520 --> 04:11:53,900 We've been waiting for months on another piece of legislation that 2298 04:11:58,480 --> 04:12:00,360 is not under the jurisdiction 2299 04:12:00,360 --> 04:12:01,680 of the U.S. Committee, 2300 04:12:12,500 --> 04:12:18,920 or amend the language to say if a sound ordinance is approved 2301 04:12:18,920 --> 04:12:21,500 or exists, 2302 04:12:33,010 --> 04:12:34,950 blasting is currently happening. 2303 04:12:40,770 --> 04:12:43,150 Obviously, the board can do as it chooses. 2304 04:12:43,790 --> 04:12:50,090 I would again recommend that this are review be provided before it be adopted, I apologize 2305 04:12:50,090 --> 04:12:50,970 for the delay. 2306 04:12:51,510 --> 04:12:55,670 I don't know why the red line didn't make it to you all, but we do have suggested changes 2307 04:12:55,670 --> 04:12:58,970 to this item that we would like you to consider before adopting it. 2308 04:13:01,400 --> 04:13:04,060 Suggested changes specifically for the reference. 2309 04:13:06,750 --> 04:13:09,310 To be frank, this item isn't even an ordinance format. 2310 04:13:09,650 --> 04:13:11,130 We had formatting suggestions. 2311 04:13:11,130 --> 04:13:17,190 We have language suggestions. We have multiple suggestions. I apologize. I've been out for multiple months. 2312 04:13:17,270 --> 04:13:24,330 I can't tell you why the red line didn't get to you. But we have suggested changes that we believe you should consider before you adopted. 2313 04:13:24,910 --> 04:13:28,210 If you choose not to do that, we will recommend an amendment to conform. 2314 04:13:33,640 --> 04:13:35,880 I'm turning off my microphone for a quick take. 2315 04:13:36,100 --> 04:13:40,320 All right. I will go to Commissioner Terry. Is request to the speed? 2316 04:13:44,120 --> 04:13:52,240 So, you sent the red line just to Commissioner Bolton, for you sent to all of us, or you 2317 04:13:52,240 --> 04:13:55,020 had not sent that red line as we were saying, but there is one. 2318 04:13:55,700 --> 04:13:59,740 To the best that I can determine in my review of my emails, the red line has not been provided 2319 04:13:59,740 --> 04:14:00,620 to you all. 2320 04:14:01,200 --> 04:14:01,480 Gotcha. 2321 04:14:01,840 --> 04:14:02,040 All right. 2322 04:14:02,220 --> 04:14:02,920 Thank you. 2323 04:14:07,140 --> 04:14:09,080 Commissioner Bolton, did your motion stand? 2324 04:14:13,860 --> 04:14:14,260 Okay. 2325 04:14:15,300 --> 04:14:22,980 I'd like to table the item and if you could forward that so if I can see if those changes 2326 04:14:22,980 --> 04:14:24,120 are significant. 2327 04:14:25,580 --> 04:14:27,480 So you're a mending emotion to table. 2328 04:14:27,800 --> 04:14:28,300 Yes, please. 2329 04:14:28,580 --> 04:14:29,480 Your second stand. 2330 04:14:29,860 --> 04:14:30,700 Thank you so much. 2331 04:14:31,760 --> 04:14:34,340 Please open the machine for the votes, 2332 04:14:41,750 --> 04:14:43,230 emotion to table carries. 2333 04:14:44,510 --> 04:14:57,210 Page 31, Adam 2026-113-2, all commission districts consent to the sub-lease and modification of portions of the Kirkwood Mental Health Center, 2334 04:14:57,210 --> 04:14:59,950 Clifton Springs Mental Health Center, and when... 2335 04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:06,160 One way mental health center under contract number 13, eight, zero, zero, nine, seven, one, with the 2336 04:15:06,680 --> 04:15:10,840 community service board doing business as clear a tell of behavioral health. 2337 04:15:11,160 --> 04:15:15,640 Did you know a health care LLC for use as pharmacies? And this is PIX. 2338 04:15:16,120 --> 04:15:22,400 What's your tip for of as of this pandemic? Thank you. Thank you so much. Please open 2339 04:15:29,730 --> 04:15:34,830 the 2340 04:15:34,830 --> 04:15:43,470 to item 2026-1214, a supplemental resolution approving the issuance of the housing authority 2341 04:15:43,470 --> 04:15:49,990 of the county of the cab Georgia, tax for revenue bonds, housing investment bond program 2342 04:15:49,990 --> 04:15:56,110 series 2026 in the aggregate principal amount of to be determined for the purpose of funding 2343 04:15:56,110 --> 04:16:02,090 the housing investment bond program and authorizing the execution and delivery of an intercovermental 2344 04:16:02,090 --> 04:16:10,290 housing and cooperation agreement between the county and the housing authority of the county of the cab George. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. 2345 04:16:11,350 --> 04:16:17,110 As we told you last fab, we'd be coming back with the bids that we received on Friday. 2346 04:16:18,290 --> 04:16:23,950 We're happy to report we received eight bids, which is very good. 2347 04:16:23,950 --> 04:16:35,450 from 15-year to 20-year maturedies, actually a couple of 25s, but we selected a 20-year matured 2348 04:16:37,070 --> 04:16:44,130 with Regens Bank at 5.7-7. So, which were very happy with 2349 04:16:46,940 --> 04:16:47,800 any questions. 2350 04:16:48,580 --> 04:16:55,520 So, we are being handed to the substitute, which is the agenda item with the appropriate 2351 04:16:55,520 --> 04:16:59,600 numbers filled in. Yes, so I'm going to reread it to make sure we're all clear. 2352 04:16:59,880 --> 04:17:06,720 The resolution with the numbers filled in and also the IGA with it's with it's 2353 04:17:06,720 --> 04:17:13,060 correct. Thank you so much. So this is the substitute for out on 2026-1214, a supplemental 2354 04:17:13,060 --> 04:17:17,300 resolution, improving the issuance of the housing authority of the county of the CAV Georgia 2355 04:17:17,300 --> 04:17:24,020 taxable revenue bonds, housing investment bond program, series 2026, in the aggregate principle 2356 04:17:24,020 --> 04:17:29,940 amount of $25 million for the purpose of funding that has the investment bond program and 2357 04:17:29,940 --> 04:17:35,000 authorizing the execution and delivery of an intergovernmental housing cooperation agreement 2358 04:17:35,000 --> 04:17:38,980 between the county and the housing authority of the county of DeCap Georgia. 2359 04:17:41,280 --> 04:17:42,060 I'm sorry. 2360 04:17:42,560 --> 04:17:42,760 I'm sorry. 2361 04:17:42,960 --> 04:17:43,300 I'm sorry. 2362 04:17:44,160 --> 04:17:44,600 I'm sorry. 2363 04:17:45,360 --> 04:17:45,660 I'm sorry. 2364 04:17:45,660 --> 04:17:46,040 I'm sorry. 2365 04:17:46,280 --> 04:17:46,460 I'm sorry. 2366 04:17:48,160 --> 04:17:49,360 I'm sorry. 2367 04:17:52,260 --> 04:17:53,460 I'm sorry. 2368 04:17:53,460 --> 04:17:59,300 Thank you, Mr. Atkins. 2369 04:18:01,710 --> 04:18:07,470 Yes, I was looking for the sheet with all the other bits on it. 2370 04:18:08,350 --> 04:18:10,470 I can provide that to you. 2371 04:18:10,470 --> 04:18:12,750 I was curious about what the other bits were. 2372 04:18:12,830 --> 04:18:18,830 I could tell they ranged from about the 15 year from about 5.41 to 6.45. 2373 04:18:18,830 --> 04:18:28,410 But there were items like puts and mandatory tenders and things that affect our decision 2374 04:18:28,410 --> 04:18:31,550 between you and Director McNab, which I'll translate. 2375 04:18:32,770 --> 04:18:34,570 What those words mean? 2376 04:18:35,630 --> 04:18:37,710 All these other bits came with a bunch of stirrings. 2377 04:18:39,010 --> 04:18:39,230 Okay. 2378 04:18:42,350 --> 04:18:47,930 And this was the lowest cost considering how we normally call bonds. 2379 04:18:47,930 --> 04:18:49,970 It has a 10-year car call. 2380 04:18:50,950 --> 04:18:54,650 So the likelihood is, interest rates will be lower in 10 years 2381 04:18:54,650 --> 04:18:57,010 when those are callable than they are right now. 2382 04:18:57,310 --> 04:19:01,950 And so we anticipate that we would refinance these bonds at 10 years. 2383 04:19:02,750 --> 04:19:05,830 And this was the option that had the lowest interest rate 2384 04:19:05,830 --> 04:19:08,490 and the most flexible ability. 2385 04:19:09,010 --> 04:19:11,210 Yeah, it was clean with about a bunch of, 2386 04:19:11,410 --> 04:19:14,910 we're going to calculate the cost of capital kind of thing. 2387 04:19:14,910 --> 04:19:21,930 The interest rates may seem a little hot to you, but that's because it's a taxable bond issue instead of tax exempt. 2388 04:19:24,210 --> 04:19:24,490 Okay. 2389 04:19:24,490 --> 04:19:24,590 Gotcha. 2390 04:19:28,050 --> 04:19:28,350 All right. 2391 04:19:28,430 --> 04:19:29,330 That's all the questions I had. 2392 04:19:29,630 --> 04:19:29,890 Thank you. 2393 04:19:29,910 --> 04:19:30,570 Thank you, Commissioner. 2394 04:19:30,850 --> 04:19:31,930 I'm sorry. 2395 04:19:32,130 --> 04:19:32,810 You're first opportunity. 2396 04:19:33,190 --> 04:19:34,170 Thank you so much. 2397 04:19:34,510 --> 04:19:36,330 I'm just a couple of quick things. 2398 04:19:36,810 --> 04:19:38,710 I think this will be more. 2399 04:19:39,390 --> 04:19:42,810 Dr. Ferguson was in attendance a little earlier. 2400 04:19:42,810 --> 04:19:49,790 don't see him here, but I see we have as exhibit A7, the transitional housing and extended 2401 04:19:49,790 --> 04:19:59,970 stay hotel program that was supposed to be the same in terms of vehicles, supposed to be 2402 04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:09,020 Let's see that as a part of this. So, it seems like C-O-O will be able to speak to that. And then I have another question 2403 04:20:09,020 --> 04:20:10,740 in terms of the eminent domain. 2404 04:20:17,540 --> 04:20:18,240 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2405 04:20:18,240 --> 04:20:19,720 Could you say the last part of your question again? 2406 04:20:20,040 --> 04:20:27,980 There's the road to home programs. I see we've included the road to home as a part of exhibit A7, a transitional 2407 04:20:27,980 --> 04:20:34,260 housing for the extended stay. So, the motel to home, but the road to home is that included. 2408 04:20:34,260 --> 04:20:35,760 But here's what I would say, Commissioner. 2409 04:20:36,380 --> 04:20:36,400 Yes. 2410 04:20:36,520 --> 04:20:40,380 So in this bond issuance, we did not list all of the programs. 2411 04:20:40,980 --> 04:20:42,680 However, they will all be funded. 2412 04:20:43,120 --> 04:20:48,960 You approved separately the program document that indicated all of the programs. 2413 04:20:49,620 --> 04:20:50,780 So nothing has changed. 2414 04:20:50,980 --> 04:20:53,200 We're not doing any of those. 2415 04:20:53,400 --> 04:20:57,980 It's just that in this bond document, we did not go through and list every single one. 2416 04:20:58,180 --> 04:21:03,040 No, and I could appreciate that response and to the extent that we plan on using any 2417 04:21:03,040 --> 04:21:08,320 the bond proceeds for a particular program, then that would need to be something that will 2418 04:21:08,320 --> 04:21:13,800 be made a part of this since we're going to, if actually get a bond as a result of it. 2419 04:21:13,860 --> 04:21:22,040 Now I get that we can, as long as we go through the process, allocate funds from a bond 2420 04:21:22,040 --> 04:21:26,600 to something else that's in similarity to another different consideration to an around 2421 04:21:26,600 --> 04:21:27,080 a bond. 2422 04:21:27,700 --> 04:21:32,860 But specifically, we're going to spend funds related to it, then it would be listed as well. 2423 04:21:32,860 --> 04:21:40,060 this is something that I back saw and reminded on a number of occasions and was even willing 2424 04:21:40,060 --> 04:21:45,680 to present a separate agenda item and was advised and I see Dr. Ferguson coming down right 2425 04:21:45,680 --> 04:21:52,320 now. Was advised that opposed to doing a separate agenda item that it would be something 2426 04:21:52,320 --> 04:21:58,120 that would be a part of this. So I really want to know how we are going to effectively 2427 04:21:58,120 --> 04:22:03,400 ensure that it is something that's a part of what we're doing, and I was leading on the 2428 04:22:03,400 --> 04:22:10,000 administration as to the best, you know, right too. So yeah, I'd really like to make sure that's clear. 2429 04:22:10,120 --> 04:22:14,500 Certainly come up, but I believe with the adoption of the other item that lists the programs, 2430 04:22:14,620 --> 04:22:20,500 that's the assurance, but Dr. Ferguson, I'd like to add in to that. 2431 04:22:23,580 --> 04:22:25,060 Did you hear the emotional 2432 04:22:25,060 --> 04:22:33,180 a seven transitional housing hotel, extended stay hotel program, so to hotel to home. I'm looking 2433 04:22:33,180 --> 04:22:39,340 for my road to home. This is, you know, I was advised as we were going to do a separate agenda item 2434 04:22:39,340 --> 04:22:46,700 related to it that it would be a part of, we have something specifically outlining as it relates 2435 04:22:46,700 --> 04:22:54,300 to the extended stay hotel to home, just looking for where my road, my road to home is. 2436 04:22:54,300 --> 04:22:59,000 Yes, absolutely, so we are currently working on your wrote-in home project. 2437 04:22:59,720 --> 04:23:04,440 Actually, I'm working with the side of the cab to issue an RFQ. 2438 04:23:04,600 --> 04:23:08,640 I'm expecting that RFQ for vendors to go out and set timber. 2439 04:23:09,380 --> 04:23:15,160 There will be a separate budget item that we're going to bring to the board. 2440 04:23:15,200 --> 04:23:19,080 I'm all of the number of other budget items regarding four to by housing and homelessness 2441 04:23:19,080 --> 04:23:23,560 that we're going to bring to the board for your consideration in September. 2442 04:23:24,260 --> 04:23:32,540 One of the reasons that we're kind of bifurcating that activity is that for funding that comes out of the housing investment fund. 2443 04:23:32,640 --> 04:23:36,540 We try to, to the greatest extent possible use those for capital expenses. 2444 04:23:37,760 --> 04:23:44,520 You know assets and things in nature that are going to last long term and then for service related expenses. 2445 04:23:44,520 --> 04:23:50,580 we want to try to lean into the existing budget that we have for the affordable housing fund 2446 04:23:50,580 --> 04:23:55,740 to fund those activities. So you'll see a budget item for the services component for 2447 04:23:55,740 --> 04:24:03,400 road to home come before you in September. And we're already, we're, you know, poised, we drafted 2448 04:24:03,400 --> 04:24:08,420 the RFQ. We're just waiting for a couple of different administrative steps for decide to 2449 04:24:08,420 --> 04:24:13,920 cap to get through before we can issue that RFQ for vendors to participate in that program. 2450 04:24:13,920 --> 04:24:17,860 And I could appreciate that in our acute seems like we do need a separate agenda item. 2451 04:24:18,740 --> 04:24:25,740 So, if you wouldn't mind getting with my office and this is at water so that we can work together to make sure that we do what we're going to do before, 2452 04:24:26,180 --> 04:24:33,620 which was present as separate agenda item was just leaning into what was suggested initially and it seems like we're going to end up going that route. 2453 04:24:34,400 --> 04:24:36,160 With that, I yield back. 2454 04:24:36,400 --> 04:24:37,480 Thank you so much. 2455 04:24:38,440 --> 04:24:42,400 I am seeing no further requests to speak. Please open the machine for a vote. 2456 04:24:43,920 --> 04:24:45,600 And this is where the substitute, 2457 04:24:50,080 --> 04:24:52,920 the motion to approve the substitute carries congratulations. 2458 04:24:54,660 --> 04:24:55,920 That's very good. 2459 04:24:57,020 --> 04:24:59,820 Okay, middle of page 32, I don't know. 2460 04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:11,320 226-1224, all commission districts, renewal of a contract with the Urban League of Greater Atlanta for the operation of the Decaptowning Water and Supercustomary Assistance Programs. 2461 04:25:13,960 --> 04:25:18,660 That committee did hear this and the motion is to approve. 2462 04:25:19,820 --> 04:25:20,020 Second. 2463 04:25:21,020 --> 04:25:23,340 Because it also went to PWF. Thank you so much. 2464 04:25:23,580 --> 04:25:24,520 Oh, thank you. Yes, it was. 2465 04:25:26,140 --> 04:25:28,860 Seeing no requests to speak, please let me see him for the 2466 04:25:35,780 --> 04:25:37,360 motion to approve. 2467 04:25:39,940 --> 04:25:54,540 I'm 2026-1190, application of the Director of Planning and Sustainability, to request the Board of Commission as a approve of a resolution for a new rule of the service delivery strategy for the Cap County Georgia, and this is in Pax. 2468 04:25:54,540 --> 04:25:55,300 Thank 2469 04:25:59,710 --> 04:26:04,190 you so much. I appreciate it. 2470 04:26:04,350 --> 04:26:06,190 This is herbs and pecs actually. 2471 04:26:07,630 --> 04:26:07,830 Brains. 2472 04:26:08,310 --> 04:26:08,530 Yeah. 2473 04:26:10,490 --> 04:26:18,170 And so we need to make sure that we have an opportunity to discuss this more in pecs. 2474 04:26:18,710 --> 04:26:24,770 So I know that Shannon is out presently. Jon was here from someone. 2475 04:26:25,610 --> 04:26:30,330 Yeah, make sure that it gets on so that we can be able to hear it. 2476 04:26:30,710 --> 04:26:39,550 So then my motion is to defer to the September 15th, BOC, actually would need the September, 2477 04:26:40,310 --> 04:26:41,230 what is that? 2478 04:26:41,290 --> 04:26:41,710 Is that that? 2479 04:26:41,870 --> 04:26:43,010 What's after the 15th? 2480 04:26:43,510 --> 04:26:43,770 29th. 2481 04:26:43,770 --> 04:26:44,830 The 29th. 2482 04:26:45,470 --> 04:26:48,250 With a stop impacts on the 15th. 2483 04:26:48,390 --> 04:26:48,810 Madam. 2484 04:26:49,590 --> 04:26:56,650 Would this is a pretty big type of conversation, would you be amenable to our presentation at a cow? 2485 04:26:57,290 --> 04:26:57,810 I am. 2486 04:26:58,890 --> 04:27:01,230 And we're going to work to get that scheduled before then. 2487 04:27:01,670 --> 04:27:02,230 Thank you, then. 2488 04:27:03,230 --> 04:27:03,310 All right. 2489 04:27:03,330 --> 04:27:05,650 If you make hit your button for me. 2490 04:27:06,310 --> 04:27:07,130 And then was there something? 2491 04:27:07,150 --> 04:27:08,530 Thank you, Commissioner Longspears. 2492 04:27:09,570 --> 04:27:10,350 Commissioner Terry. 2493 04:27:12,710 --> 04:27:13,670 Yes, I... 2494 04:27:14,350 --> 04:27:16,450 I thought this was time sensitive. 2495 04:27:17,070 --> 04:27:21,410 I seem to remember Rachel saying they wanted to get this, I guess, done in September. 2496 04:27:21,810 --> 04:27:25,470 I guess it's probably a finder deferred, but what was the broadness at the time? 2497 04:27:25,830 --> 04:27:28,930 I believe by the end of September we need a doctor. 2498 04:27:29,250 --> 04:27:33,550 So if we're going to bring it to the next committee, the whole meeting, I think we're okay. 2499 04:27:34,710 --> 04:27:34,850 All right. 2500 04:27:35,130 --> 04:27:37,610 And I'm amenable to, I'm sorry. 2501 04:27:38,910 --> 04:27:40,110 I'm amenable to modify. 2502 04:27:40,370 --> 04:27:45,730 I know there was additional information that we were looking to receive. 2503 04:27:45,730 --> 04:27:53,710 I don't know that all of the committee has been distributed to us at this point, but I mean 2504 04:27:53,710 --> 04:27:57,790 if the administration of guys are fine and if it's going to come before Cal that I don't 2505 04:27:57,790 --> 04:28:04,330 have an issue, but I'm immunable if we need to consider something different here. 2506 04:28:04,870 --> 04:28:11,490 And I would add if I made that, I think it's a broad topic that newer commissioners have 2507 04:28:12,530 --> 04:28:22,710 and that we'll be delving more into later on, so even if a vote on the specific thing is done if we can get a presentation to just understand the process, I think would be helpful. 2508 04:28:24,050 --> 04:28:28,650 This matter of fact could be a value of the board we're even to vote today on this. 2509 04:28:32,470 --> 04:28:32,970 Yes. 2510 04:28:32,970 --> 04:28:38,190 service delivery strategy because ultimately there's going to be some long-term policy 2511 04:28:38,190 --> 04:28:43,690 decisions to be made in terms of what services we will and will not provide in the future 2512 04:28:43,690 --> 04:28:48,910 that we're already committed to here but we may not want to be committed to in years 2513 04:28:48,910 --> 04:28:50,230 two, three, four and five. 2514 04:28:50,750 --> 04:28:55,110 Right and I think it's a conversation that's better to start that really well. 2515 04:28:55,430 --> 04:29:01,010 Absolutely. So I would also be amenable to approving or whatever the you guys decide but 2516 04:29:01,010 --> 04:29:02,470 at some point having a presentation? 2517 04:29:04,710 --> 04:29:07,530 Then I'm, yeah, I definitely want a presentation. 2518 04:29:08,050 --> 04:29:09,930 So we can get that on the Cal, 2519 04:29:10,170 --> 04:29:11,310 then that would be fantastic. 2520 04:29:11,310 --> 04:29:12,970 And then I'm immunable to 2521 04:29:16,290 --> 04:29:20,570 amending my initial motion to emotion for approval. 2522 04:29:20,890 --> 04:29:24,370 And it's still upon receipt of that additional information 2523 04:29:24,370 --> 04:29:26,150 and it seems like the additional information 2524 04:29:26,150 --> 04:29:28,050 will come in a form of ignoring any count. 2525 04:29:30,020 --> 04:29:30,740 Second stance. 2526 04:29:30,840 --> 04:29:31,440 Second stance. 2527 04:29:31,440 --> 04:29:34,560 Okay, and so we're actually on questions, Terry's time. 2528 04:29:35,820 --> 04:29:36,460 No worries. 2529 04:29:36,900 --> 04:29:42,440 I just, I think the only questions I had about what we were approving is more just sort of the, 2530 04:29:43,080 --> 04:29:47,600 the different, like, codes, code notions for each of the military. 2531 04:29:48,620 --> 04:29:51,380 I think TG was going to try to break out the military. 2532 04:29:51,440 --> 04:29:54,560 That's it for each of the services for the cities. 2533 04:29:54,920 --> 04:29:57,340 That's just for more for our information purposes. 2534 04:29:58,240 --> 04:29:59,480 But I certainly support the idea. 2535 04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:06,380 Not representing officer just talking about the SDS strategy holistically at a future day, because I think 2536 04:30:06,380 --> 04:30:10,480 you're right, sackers, longer term discussions that have to be answered. 2537 04:30:10,960 --> 04:30:11,280 Absolutely. 2538 04:30:11,740 --> 04:30:16,740 Your services, we're on a really moderate value rate, but so, yes, if the Board of Prove says we can still 2539 04:30:16,740 --> 04:30:23,740 get the millage rate information, we should be able to get that to T.J. and that's 24 hours. 2540 04:30:23,740 --> 04:30:25,900 Okay, we believe it's five cents. 2541 04:30:26,820 --> 04:30:27,760 Right, yeah. 2542 04:30:28,100 --> 04:30:31,200 Yeah, we believe it's five cents, but we can reset. 2543 04:30:31,500 --> 04:30:32,520 Please reset. 2544 04:30:33,280 --> 04:30:34,300 Thank you. 2545 04:30:34,300 --> 04:30:35,100 You're a commissioner. 2546 04:30:36,040 --> 04:30:36,200 Okay. 2547 04:30:36,600 --> 04:30:37,020 Commissioner Patrick. 2548 04:30:37,660 --> 04:30:40,340 Just for clarity, we are voting to approve this now. 2549 04:30:40,660 --> 04:30:40,720 Yes. 2550 04:30:40,980 --> 04:30:41,200 Okay. 2551 04:30:41,700 --> 04:30:45,960 And then have we talked about what Cal we're wanting to have this presentation come back to? 2552 04:30:46,000 --> 04:30:46,360 No. 2553 04:30:46,580 --> 04:30:47,240 No. Okay. 2554 04:30:47,980 --> 04:30:49,300 I'll make sure you are a little. 2555 04:30:49,360 --> 04:30:50,520 I appreciate that. 2556 04:30:50,520 --> 04:30:50,860 Thank you. 2557 04:30:52,160 --> 04:30:57,100 Now that there's not as quite as much time sensitivity to this. Thank you, sir. 2558 04:30:57,920 --> 04:31:00,940 All right, seeing no further requests to speak, please open the machine for the vote 2559 04:31:00,940 --> 04:31:02,360 and that is to approve. 2560 04:31:09,450 --> 04:31:12,190 Motion to approve carries. Thank you. 2561 04:31:12,530 --> 04:31:15,550 Top of page 33, this is public work serves in drainage. 2562 04:31:16,150 --> 04:31:19,350 Item 2026-1046. 2563 04:31:19,350 --> 04:31:25,410 except the funding from the Georgia Department of Transportation for the FY2026 local maintenance and 2564 04:31:25,410 --> 04:31:28,670 improvement grant program and this is the supplemental grant. 2565 04:31:30,310 --> 04:31:34,470 Based on the recommendation of PWI motion to approve. 2566 04:31:38,120 --> 04:31:39,940 Motion in a second, thank you so much. 2567 04:31:40,360 --> 04:31:46,280 Madam President Officer, we could just ask staff to come up and reconfirmed that dollar amount for the grant. 2568 04:31:47,100 --> 04:31:47,300 Yes. 2569 04:31:47,300 --> 04:31:49,500 If there's someone here for the talk to that. 2570 04:31:49,980 --> 04:31:50,440 Okay. 2571 04:31:50,440 --> 04:31:51,240 Perfect. 2572 04:31:53,410 --> 04:31:55,430 We got it. Take your time. 2573 04:32:04,080 --> 04:32:07,380 Good afternoon. That's 5 million to 167,000. 2574 04:32:07,860 --> 04:32:09,740 Thank you, Peggy. We appreciate you. 2575 04:32:11,320 --> 04:32:15,180 Thank you, ma'am. Please open the machine for the motion 2576 04:32:20,880 --> 04:32:22,180 to approve carries. 2577 04:32:22,520 --> 04:32:25,880 We are now under purchasing and contracting for the EURPS committee. 2578 04:32:25,880 --> 04:32:36,640 Item 2026-108, renewal of contract number 2-0-0-0-0-349, background screening services, 2579 04:32:37,260 --> 04:32:43,240 fees by Department of Human Resources and Merit System, to obtain pre-employment background 2580 04:32:43,240 --> 04:32:50,110 screenings, exercising first renewal option through September 30th, 2027, awarded it to 2581 04:32:50,730 --> 04:32:57,230 HR2 check, ink, amount not to exceed $689,375. 2582 04:32:58,310 --> 04:33:02,970 On behalf of the IRP's committee, I move to approve item 1,008. 2583 04:33:03,330 --> 04:33:04,050 Thank you, man. 2584 04:33:05,880 --> 04:33:07,760 Thank you for that second commission, David Johnson. 2585 04:33:08,580 --> 04:33:10,280 Please offer the machine for the vote. 2586 04:33:15,820 --> 04:33:16,960 Motion to approve carries. 2587 04:33:17,780 --> 04:33:22,100 Item 2026-1049 Cooperative Agreement. 2588 04:33:22,800 --> 04:33:25,940 Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness and Related Service. 2589 04:33:25,940 --> 04:33:34,660 For use by fire rescue to obtain multi-user hard-line communication system, handheld gas detector and portable air distribution box, 2590 04:33:35,140 --> 04:33:39,840 ratifying previously issued purchase order awarded to SafeWare Inc. 2591 04:33:40,080 --> 04:33:44,060 and about not exceed $115,467. 2592 04:33:45,120 --> 04:33:51,580 I move to defer item 1049 to the September 15 BLC with a prior step in Earth. 2593 04:33:52,680 --> 04:33:54,520 Second, thank you, please such a button. 2594 04:33:54,520 --> 04:33:55,460 Thank 2595 04:33:57,510 --> 04:34:00,270 you so much. Please open the machine for your vote. 2596 04:34:03,860 --> 04:34:05,140 Motion to defer carries. 2597 04:34:05,320 --> 04:34:16,160 Top of page 34. I know 2026-1050 change order number 1 to contract number 2-0-0-0-0-518. 2598 04:34:16,320 --> 04:34:19,840 Emergency ambulance services for use by the Department of Fire Rescue. 2599 04:34:20,560 --> 04:34:24,020 To obtain comprehensive 911 ambulance services, 2600 04:34:24,020 --> 04:34:32,540 So you can to revise the contract start date to July 1st, 2026, and increase contract term through December 31st, 2031, 2601 04:34:33,260 --> 04:34:41,880 to allow vendor their full performance time period in order to metro ambulance service in doing business as American medical response. 2602 04:34:42,240 --> 04:34:44,160 Contract term increase only. 2603 04:34:44,660 --> 04:34:47,680 I move to approve item 1 0 5 0. 2604 04:34:48,460 --> 04:34:50,460 Thank you. Second. Thank you. 2605 04:34:50,460 --> 04:34:53,340 These open the machine for the remote. 2606 04:34:58,210 --> 04:34:59,450 Motion to approve carries. 2607 04:35:00,050 --> 04:35:22,610 Purchasing and contracting for the FAB committee, item 2026-0839, RFP-25-048- RFP financial advisor services, for use by the finance department to obtain financial advisory services in connection with various financing transactions and programs. 2608 04:35:22,610 --> 04:35:29,670 Or to public resources advisory group, I'm out not to exceed 1,167,000 dollars. 2609 04:35:30,610 --> 04:35:32,070 Thank you, Madam President Officer. 2610 04:35:32,290 --> 04:35:37,750 We are waiting some more information from the purchasing department. 2611 04:35:38,150 --> 04:35:44,110 So before I make my deferral motion, do we have it today, or do we need to wait to the next 2612 04:35:44,110 --> 04:35:44,530 fat meeting? 2613 04:35:46,110 --> 04:35:48,610 Well, our intent was actually discussing the fat meeting. 2614 04:35:48,610 --> 04:35:59,030 probably 30 day defer. Okay, so we can do that here. Okay. Okay, so 30 days will be 2615 04:35:59,370 --> 04:36:18,570 September 29, what was it? September 29, it's definitely 30. September 21, 29, oh 29th. Okay. Yes. All right. That sounds good. All right. 2616 04:36:20,490 --> 04:36:24,610 Thank you so much, please open the machine for the 2617 04:36:28,160 --> 04:36:31,680 motion to defer carries top of page 35. 2618 04:36:32,340 --> 04:36:44,220 Adam 2026-1144 change order number 2 to contract number 2-0-0-0-0-5-2-1 upfitting of government-owned emergency response vehicles. 2619 04:36:45,140 --> 04:36:51,280 for use by the Marshall's office to outfit 10 new vehicles seeking increase in contract funds 2620 04:36:51,280 --> 04:36:58,140 awarded to Dana Safety Supply Inc. I'm out not to exceed 302,400 dollars and 34 cents. 2621 04:36:59,980 --> 04:37:05,600 Thank you madam. The officer was the sort in FAB and regular approval. So at this time 2622 04:37:05,600 --> 04:37:12,480 I moved to approve item 1144. Second. Thank you for your second. If you please open the 2623 04:37:12,480 --> 04:37:13,560 for the vote. 2624 04:37:17,700 --> 04:37:19,040 Motion to approve carries. 2625 04:37:19,860 --> 04:37:24,000 Middle up page 35, purchasing and contracting for the Ops Committee. 2626 04:37:25,180 --> 04:37:27,540 I'm getting a substitute. Thank you. 2627 04:37:27,840 --> 04:37:30,540 Item 2026-0989, 2628 04:37:30,980 --> 04:37:33,640 change order number two to contract number one three, 2629 04:37:34,100 --> 04:37:35,880 four three zero three two, 2630 04:37:36,160 --> 04:37:39,520 software and ancillary services statewide contract 2631 04:37:39,520 --> 04:37:42,460 for use by the Department of Innovation and Technology. 2632 04:37:42,460 --> 04:37:48,000 The obtained software licenses and technical support to cover all new and existing Microsoft 2633 04:37:48,000 --> 04:37:53,740 products utilized by the county, seeking increase in contract funds and terms through August 2634 04:37:53,740 --> 04:38:01,800 31st, 2029, excuse me, awarded to S.H.I. International Corporation amount not to exceed 2635 04:38:01,800 --> 04:38:08,140 $18,879.077.077.077.077.077. 2636 04:38:09,610 --> 04:38:13,970 Motion to approve as approved in the 2637 04:38:13,970 --> 04:38:14,650 Ops Committee. 2638 04:38:16,070 --> 04:38:16,650 The substitute. 2639 04:38:18,030 --> 04:38:19,610 Motion to approve the substitute. 2640 04:38:19,970 --> 04:38:21,110 Thank you. 2641 04:38:21,830 --> 04:38:22,090 The second. 2642 04:38:22,230 --> 04:38:23,650 Seconded by Commissioner Patrick. 2643 04:38:24,430 --> 04:38:25,690 I am seeing no questions. 2644 04:38:26,070 --> 04:38:27,930 Please open the machine for the vote. 2645 04:38:32,750 --> 04:38:34,510 Motion to approve the substitute carries. 2646 04:38:34,510 --> 04:38:43,730 I know in 2026-1121, change order number 1 to contract number 1367915 lightbulbs 2647 04:38:43,730 --> 04:38:49,010 fixtures lamps and ballas for use by the Department of Facilities Management to obtain 2648 04:38:49,010 --> 04:38:53,930 lightbulbs fixtures lamps and ballas for upgrades under health centers project, seeking 2649 04:38:53,930 --> 04:39:00,390 increase in contract funds awarded to summit lighting solutions, amount not to exceed 1,111 2650 04:39:06,610 --> 04:39:09,550 $111,1111,163. 2651 04:39:10,490 --> 04:39:11,270 Move action. 2652 04:39:11,870 --> 04:39:12,850 Thank you. 2653 04:39:12,990 --> 04:39:14,090 Top of page 36. 2654 04:39:15,950 --> 04:39:26,490 Item 2026-1125 change order number 15, contract number 1147259, elevator escalator and walkway, maintenance and 2655 04:39:26,490 --> 04:39:33,010 and related solutions for use by the Department of Facilities Management to obtain 2656 04:39:33,010 --> 04:39:37,570 monthly preventative maintenance inspections, testing, and modernization of the county's 2657 04:39:37,570 --> 04:39:42,810 elevators and associated equipment at Richardson Health Center and Westic Abmental Health 2658 04:39:42,810 --> 04:39:48,650 Center, seeking increase in contract funds awarded to Cone, Inc., amount not to exceed 2659 04:39:48,650 --> 04:39:53,850 1,248,462 dollars and 64 cents. 2660 04:39:53,850 --> 04:39:59,750 move for action. I make a motion to through 26-11. 2661 04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:06,040 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 5, if they were approved in the Ops Committee. 2662 04:40:06,680 --> 04:40:09,060 Thank you. If you'll hit your button, then is there a second? 2663 04:40:10,710 --> 04:40:11,190 Second. 2664 04:40:11,490 --> 04:40:13,950 Thank you, sir. Commissioner Terry, you have a floor? 2665 04:40:15,030 --> 04:40:16,510 Thank you, Madam President Officer. 2666 04:40:18,010 --> 04:40:21,310 Zach on the 1121, the lighting contract. 2667 04:40:23,890 --> 04:40:29,730 Did they complete the cost savings analysis or can they? 2668 04:40:31,230 --> 04:40:37,250 That's what we're switching out light bulbs, the energy savings, and so each time we do 2669 04:40:37,250 --> 04:40:41,970 upgrades in the facilities for the lighting, we definitely assess the current lighting 2670 04:40:41,970 --> 04:40:46,610 and see if we can upgrade it to the new more modern LED lighting, so that's what I suspect 2671 04:40:46,610 --> 04:40:47,830 all this lighting is going to do. 2672 04:40:47,830 --> 04:40:48,430 Yeah, that's right. 2673 04:40:48,650 --> 04:40:54,410 I think we talked about it in the committee, but y'all were going to do just a... 2674 04:40:54,410 --> 04:40:55,550 It's like a... 2675 04:40:55,550 --> 04:40:55,790 It's like a... 2676 04:40:55,790 --> 04:40:56,370 It's like a... 2677 04:40:56,370 --> 04:41:03,670 the payback time because it's a million dollars so how long will it take for us to get that money back in the savings will make. 2678 04:41:04,450 --> 04:41:09,510 We will provide that. I don't know that we have that currently, but if we'll get to you as possible. 2679 04:41:09,990 --> 04:41:20,950 We're looking actually to do an assessment just a number of facilities to do exactly that as we move forward with some investments through our sustainability chief. 2680 04:41:21,630 --> 04:41:23,210 Great. Thank you. 2681 04:41:23,210 --> 04:41:30,030 Thank you Commissioner Derrick Commissioner Davis Johnson and it would just be good if you just gave an overall assessment 2682 04:41:31,070 --> 04:41:33,050 Of the savings 2683 04:41:33,050 --> 04:41:36,590 Yeah, absolutely cost savings. Yes, it comes. Yeah, whether it's lighting 2684 04:41:36,590 --> 04:41:43,130 Amen. Yeah, and when you get that if you could get with me and we could just have a discussion and 2685 04:41:46,250 --> 04:41:47,610 Thank you 2686 04:41:48,810 --> 04:41:51,930 Thank you, ma'am. Please open the machine for vote. 2687 04:41:57,700 --> 04:41:59,900 That motion to approve carries. 2688 04:42:00,580 --> 04:42:03,420 We are now purchasing a contracting for the PX Committee. 2689 04:42:04,260 --> 04:42:12,020 Item 2026-0802 change order number 1 to contract number 1347014. 2690 04:42:13,360 --> 04:42:17,920 Geographical information assistance enterprise license agreement, sole source. 2691 04:42:17,920 --> 04:42:34,440 for use by the Department of GIS to obtain the use of proprietary software that allows the county, the capability to create publicly accessible GIS apps, dashboards, maps, to the police software, and is fully integrated into other departmental workflows and business systems. 2692 04:42:34,440 --> 04:42:41,520 Excuse me, seeking increase in contract funds and term through November 13th, 2029 awarded to 2693 04:42:41,520 --> 04:42:47,850 environmental assistance research institute, incorporated amount not to exceed 3.9 million. 2694 04:42:49,100 --> 04:42:59,980 Low fraction. Yes, ma'am, top of page 37. I don't 2026-0844. Change order number one to multiple contracts. 2695 04:42:59,980 --> 04:43:13,660 Change order number 2 to contract number 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 1, change order number 3 to contract number 2, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 3, 7, architectural engineering services for recreation parks and cultural affairs. 2696 04:43:13,660 --> 04:43:18,260 For use by the Department of Recreation, Parks and Cultural Affairs of Tain and Oncall, 2697 04:43:18,420 --> 04:43:23,780 Architectural and Engineering Design Services, seeking increase in contract funds awarded 2698 04:43:23,780 --> 04:43:29,900 to American Engineers Inc., Columbia Engineering and Services Inc., Forsight Group LLC, 2699 04:43:30,300 --> 04:43:36,720 Jericho Design Group LLC, Kim Lee Horn and Associates Inc., and WSP, USA Environment and 2700 04:43:36,720 --> 04:43:42,980 Infrastructure Inc., to allow Mt. Not to exceed 3,297,250 dollars. 2701 04:43:42,980 --> 04:43:51,660 move for action, Madame Pia, I moved to approve agenda items, ending in 0802 and 0844. 2702 04:43:51,700 --> 04:43:54,920 They're both over $3 million dollars, but they have gone through audit. 2703 04:43:55,540 --> 04:43:55,920 Thank you. 2704 04:43:56,520 --> 04:43:57,140 Thank you. 2705 04:44:03,380 --> 04:44:03,400 Thank you. 2706 04:44:03,400 --> 04:44:06,000 This is the second standing, it's flashing all the time. 2707 04:44:06,000 --> 04:44:07,540 There's some weird thing, a car, yes. 2708 04:44:11,130 --> 04:44:12,250 Thank you. 2709 04:44:12,650 --> 04:44:14,710 She was sure, but her buttons aren't sure. 2710 04:44:17,190 --> 04:44:20,090 Okay, it's a little disco ball or something. 2711 04:44:21,410 --> 04:44:23,910 It's just far open in the machine for the globe. 2712 04:44:24,810 --> 04:44:26,090 It's not as frozen. 2713 04:44:26,570 --> 04:44:27,670 We're still in so good. 2714 04:44:35,460 --> 04:44:37,080 There we go. 2715 04:44:37,820 --> 04:44:39,660 This goal ball has stopped. 2716 04:44:41,180 --> 04:44:42,020 Thank you, sir. 2717 04:44:45,860 --> 04:44:47,480 There we go. 2718 04:44:48,140 --> 04:44:49,560 Motion to approve carries. 2719 04:44:50,020 --> 04:44:50,640 Thank you. 2720 04:44:50,820 --> 04:44:54,040 So now we're purchasing and contracting for the PWI committee 2721 04:44:54,510 --> 04:44:55,660 top of pace 38. 2722 04:44:55,880 --> 04:44:59,960 And we were just handed a substitute for item 2026-019. 2723 04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:08,640 7, change order number 2 to contract number 1, 2, 8, 0, 0, 2, 8, skated controls in an instrumentation. 2724 04:45:08,860 --> 04:45:15,840 For use by the Department of Watershed Management to obtain skated software systems management services at water and wastewater treatment plants. 2725 04:45:16,240 --> 04:45:28,560 Within the county, seeking increase in contract funds and term through July 31, 2027, awarded to Tesco controls in the amount not to exceed 3,280,000 dollars. 2726 04:45:29,140 --> 04:45:30,700 Thank you, Madam President Officer. 2727 04:45:30,960 --> 04:45:32,280 Motion to approve the substitute. 2728 04:45:34,250 --> 04:45:35,970 Thank you, is there a second? 2729 04:45:37,330 --> 04:45:37,770 Second. 2730 04:45:38,410 --> 04:45:39,110 Thank you. 2731 04:45:39,630 --> 04:45:40,510 That is a good savings. 2732 04:45:40,990 --> 04:45:43,690 I will note that the original item had it at 5 million. 2733 04:45:44,010 --> 04:45:46,190 And then the substitute at 3.28 million. 2734 04:45:47,570 --> 04:45:49,210 That's why it's the greatest show on Earth. 2735 04:45:50,890 --> 04:45:51,970 He had to get that in. 2736 04:45:52,190 --> 04:45:54,470 And the saving is show on Earth as well, you know. 2737 04:45:55,550 --> 04:45:57,070 He's open the seat for the vote. 2738 04:45:59,890 --> 04:46:02,350 motion to approve the substitute carries. 2739 04:46:03,350 --> 04:46:11,790 I know in 2026-0774, change order number three to contract number two, 0-0-0-0-0-1-0-5 2740 04:46:11,790 --> 04:46:14,710 technology product solutions and related services. 2741 04:46:15,490 --> 04:46:19,590 For use by Firebase Hue to obtain dash cam equipment through the competitively 2742 04:46:19,590 --> 04:46:24,630 let, County, Omnia contract for the purchase of dash cam equipment related accessories, 2743 04:46:25,590 --> 04:46:28,050 licensing and installation for emergency vehicles. 2744 04:46:28,050 --> 04:46:33,150 seeking to add the Department of Watershed Management to the contract and increase the contract funds 2745 04:46:33,150 --> 04:46:38,930 to purchase cash hand equipment. Related accessories installation and five-year license awarded 2746 04:46:38,930 --> 04:46:46,910 to care of soft technology corporation, amount not to exceed 1,580,587 dollars and 45 cents. 2747 04:46:47,190 --> 04:46:47,770 Move for action. 2748 04:46:48,710 --> 04:46:53,790 Thank you, top of phase 39. Item 2026-0854. 2749 04:46:55,710 --> 04:47:03,290 RFP number 2025-117 RFP design bill services for Scott Canler, water treatment plant, 2750 04:47:03,430 --> 04:47:07,990 demolition and new clear wells and high service pump station, freeze-buttered 2751 04:47:07,990 --> 04:47:11,810 department of watershed management to obtain design, construction and commissioning 2752 04:47:11,810 --> 04:47:16,830 of the new Scott Canler water treatment plant, awarded to Ruby Collins Inc. 2753 04:47:16,830 --> 04:47:23,770 amount not to exceed 233,810,423 dollars. 2754 04:47:23,830 --> 04:47:24,590 Move fraction. 2755 04:47:26,370 --> 04:47:26,790 I don't know. 2756 04:47:26,790 --> 04:47:35,950 I'm 2026-0861, change order number five to contract number 1301520 on called water and sewer services. 2757 04:47:36,870 --> 04:47:44,570 For use by the Department of Watershed Management to obtain on called water and sewer installation repair and emergency response services to the county. 2758 04:47:44,570 --> 04:47:51,490 So, seeking increase in contract funds and term through June 30th, 2027, ordered to G.S. 2759 04:47:51,890 --> 04:47:58,510 Construction Inc. amount not to exceed 18 million 179,733 dollars and 15 cents. 2760 04:47:59,430 --> 04:48:03,990 Move for action, Madam Presiding Officer, I make a motion to approve the following items. 2761 04:48:04,310 --> 04:48:13,610 2026-0774, 2026-0854, 2026-0861, and then I do have a comment. 2762 04:48:13,610 --> 04:48:16,630 All right, you feel hit to your button, is there a second? 2763 04:48:16,650 --> 04:48:17,750 Thank you, Commissioner Terry. 2764 04:48:18,250 --> 04:48:19,890 It's your request to speak, Commissioner Patrick. 2765 04:48:20,350 --> 04:48:20,990 I already did. 2766 04:48:21,230 --> 04:48:22,110 And you have the floor, sir. 2767 04:48:22,330 --> 04:48:23,390 Yeah, thank you very much, Madam, 2768 04:48:24,010 --> 04:48:24,570 Presiding Officer. 2769 04:48:24,750 --> 04:48:28,770 I just want to let everybody know or call attention to this large item 2770 04:48:28,770 --> 04:48:31,170 that we just approved or potentially will be approving 2771 04:48:32,090 --> 04:48:33,390 for $233 million. 2772 04:48:33,730 --> 04:48:37,070 This is a significant investment, as it says, 2773 04:48:37,710 --> 04:48:39,450 demolition installation of new clear wells. 2774 04:48:39,450 --> 04:48:45,190 This is to ensure that water continues to flow within DeCab County, and this is starting 2775 04:48:45,190 --> 04:48:49,430 up at the top where the water starts, with the expectation obviously it makes it all 2776 04:48:49,430 --> 04:48:51,330 the way to the bottom of the county. 2777 04:48:52,070 --> 04:48:57,530 These investments are large, but they are also reflective of the 10 by 10 that this board 2778 04:48:57,530 --> 04:48:59,490 voted on last year. 2779 04:49:00,610 --> 04:49:06,550 It is important that we ensure that future generations of DeCab County residents have access 2780 04:49:06,550 --> 04:49:11,490 to clean fresh water and the notion that whether you're on the north side or the south side, 2781 04:49:12,010 --> 04:49:16,710 you're entitled to clean fresh water and good water pressure also, I think is what's 2782 04:49:16,710 --> 04:49:17,550 important to go with this. 2783 04:49:17,550 --> 04:49:21,510 So I just want to call attention to that particular item, Madam Presiding Officer, and thank 2784 04:49:21,510 --> 04:49:21,850 you. 2785 04:49:22,010 --> 04:49:22,610 Thank you. 2786 04:49:23,150 --> 04:49:26,710 Mr. Peter, may I chair, please open the machine for the vote, 2787 04:49:34,380 --> 04:49:35,100 motion to approve those 2788 04:49:35,100 --> 04:49:35,440 items. 2789 04:49:35,440 --> 04:49:44,800 series, top of page 14, I don't know, 2026-0949, Commission District 3, Super District 7, 2790 04:49:45,000 --> 04:49:53,100 RQ-25-039-RQ, Design Services for Michelle Obama-Trail Extension from South River 2791 04:49:53,100 --> 04:49:58,560 Trail to Flake's Mill Road, Freeze by Public Works Transportation to obtain Design Services 2792 04:49:58,560 --> 04:49:59,980 This is our North Fork P. 2793 04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:07,420 Each tree trail, a wild drop road to Flakes Mill Road near Narvee Harris Elementary School, recommend 2794 04:50:07,420 --> 04:50:12,900 a war to the highest scoring proposal, Kimely Horn and Associates Inc., amount not to exceed 2795 04:50:12,900 --> 04:50:14,500 4.1 million. 2796 04:50:17,030 --> 04:50:23,550 Yes, Madam Presiding Officer, motion to defer to the September 15, B.O.C. with a prior stop at P.W. 2797 04:50:23,870 --> 04:50:29,070 This is currently under review by Mr. Campbell's office for audit and we just want to make 2798 04:50:29,070 --> 04:50:29,770 sure we get it right. 2799 04:50:29,770 --> 04:50:31,450 Thank you, sir. 2800 04:50:32,370 --> 04:50:33,850 Thank you for putting one more time. 2801 04:50:35,830 --> 04:50:36,310 Thank you, Commissioner. 2802 04:50:36,590 --> 04:50:37,110 For a second. 2803 04:50:37,470 --> 04:50:38,430 Commissioner, I'm sorry you have four. 2804 04:50:38,710 --> 04:50:40,950 Thank you so much, Madam Peo. 2805 04:50:41,430 --> 04:50:46,590 I just have a quick question because my understanding is there was already three million 2806 04:50:48,710 --> 04:50:57,210 from three million dollars that actually got appropriated and this was also to 2807 04:50:57,210 --> 04:51:03,870 We'll drop, bro, 155, and it was federal money that had been received. 2808 04:51:04,690 --> 04:51:07,490 So can someone speak to that 3 million? 2809 04:51:07,610 --> 04:51:12,730 And if it's, thank you so much, Kingsbury, coming for it. 2810 04:51:15,650 --> 04:51:17,150 Well, we're waiting at Mr. Kingsbury. 2811 04:51:17,330 --> 04:51:21,750 We are getting close to when committees were supposed to start, so we will revisit that. 2812 04:51:21,790 --> 04:51:23,510 We still have a few more items to get through. 2813 04:51:23,790 --> 04:51:24,270 Thank you. 2814 04:51:26,410 --> 04:51:38,370 I have to do the commissioners. Yes, there's a typo on that agenda item. It's the south river trail. It's federallyed from Walderbrode to Flakes Mill Road and the squash dollars would be the local match. 2815 04:51:39,030 --> 04:51:46,510 So it's a full federallyed project. That's one of the cost of so high. It's full PDP environmental right away. Design drawings. 2816 04:51:48,110 --> 04:51:51,390 So the federallyed intact. This is a local match using a squash $2. 2817 04:51:51,390 --> 04:52:00,570 So we'll make sure that typo is corrected and right now the motion is to defer correct. 2818 04:52:00,990 --> 04:52:01,570 That is correct. 2819 04:52:02,230 --> 04:52:03,090 Any other questions? 2820 04:52:04,090 --> 04:52:09,550 Just so I can understand it's a match of 3 million because I know that 3 million. 2821 04:52:10,250 --> 04:52:15,310 And so it seems like it's a match and then adding another 1.1 or just trying to understand there. 2822 04:52:15,310 --> 04:52:16,850 The total is 4 million correct. 2823 04:52:17,630 --> 04:52:18,650 All right. 2824 04:52:18,650 --> 04:52:19,890 It's blocked, let's federally. 2825 04:52:20,370 --> 04:52:22,030 All right, I go back, thank you. 2826 04:52:22,170 --> 04:52:23,350 Thank you, Commissioner of Science. 2827 04:52:23,850 --> 04:52:25,190 Please open the machine for the 2828 04:52:28,650 --> 04:52:30,590 motion to defer carries. 2829 04:52:31,230 --> 04:52:38,030 Item 2026-1041, change order number five to contract number one, two, five, eight, 2830 04:52:38,490 --> 04:52:40,810 zero, zero, six, some water master plan. 2831 04:52:41,170 --> 04:52:42,890 Prease by public works, rows and drainage, 2832 04:52:43,090 --> 04:52:45,510 to provide some water master planning services. 2833 04:52:46,250 --> 04:52:48,770 Seeking increase in contract funds, scope of services, 2834 04:52:48,770 --> 04:52:53,950 and term through June 30th, 2028, awarded to Arcades U.S. Inc. 2835 04:52:54,130 --> 04:52:59,010 I'm not not to exceed 2,229,900 dollars. 2836 04:52:59,350 --> 04:53:00,090 Motion to approve. 2837 04:53:02,910 --> 04:53:04,150 Seconded by Commissioner Terry. 2838 04:53:05,090 --> 04:53:06,350 I got it. 2839 04:53:06,810 --> 04:53:06,850 I got it. 2840 04:53:06,850 --> 04:53:08,450 Please open the machine for the vote. 2841 04:53:15,080 --> 04:53:16,260 Motion to approve carries. 2842 04:53:16,740 --> 04:53:18,620 Under Recreation Parks and Cultural Affairs. 2843 04:53:19,540 --> 04:53:23,140 Item 2026-0974 District 3, 2844 04:53:23,140 --> 04:53:28,720 super district six to fund the operation of the Center for Heart to Recycle Materials or 2845 04:53:28,720 --> 04:53:36,580 charm. Recycling program with live drive think located at 1-2-2-5 Columbia Drive, Decatur 2846 04:53:36,580 --> 04:53:40,520 or 0.3032, the possible ID, 1.5, 2847 04:53:40,840 --> 04:53:45,220 dash 2, 0.00, dash 0.2, dash 0.001. 2848 04:53:45,220 --> 04:53:45,660 Thanks. 2849 04:53:45,960 --> 04:53:46,820 Move for action. 2850 04:53:47,660 --> 04:53:48,360 Thank you, ma'am. 2851 04:53:49,100 --> 04:53:52,300 I don't know, 2026, dash 1.175, 2852 04:53:52,980 --> 04:53:55,820 districts 1.35, super districts 6.67, 2853 04:53:56,000 --> 04:53:58,600 a resolution to commit to the implementation, 2854 04:53:58,600 --> 04:54:02,300 implementation of park improvement projects for the purpose of, 2855 04:54:02,300 --> 04:54:06,160 and to authorize the mission of applications for grant funds, 2856 04:54:06,160 --> 04:54:10,460 to the Georgia Department of Natural Resources of the Land and Water Conservation Fund. 2857 04:54:12,120 --> 04:54:17,380 And for the Georgia Outdoor Stewardship Program, Lake and Dam renovation projects at Exchange 2858 04:54:17,380 --> 04:54:28,460 Park located at 2775 Columbia Drive to Cated Georgia 3034, parcel 15103, 010101, Chapel Hill Park 2859 04:54:28,460 --> 04:54:31,980 located at 4,0002, Lehigh and Boulevard, 2860 04:54:32,240 --> 04:54:38,820 Decated Georgia 3034, parcel 15, 035, 0805, 2861 04:54:39,140 --> 04:54:40,940 and Davison, Arabia, Nature Preserve, 2862 04:54:41,100 --> 04:54:44,200 located at 7162, South Gaudet, Rose, 2863 04:54:44,280 --> 04:54:50,980 Sanfera, Georgia 3038, parcel 1614304, 2864 04:54:51,540 --> 04:54:53,760 and Pleasantdale Park Improvement Project, 2865 04:54:54,140 --> 04:54:57,080 located at 3650, Pleasantdale, 2866 04:54:57,080 --> 04:54:59,740 Road Doorville, Georgia 3034. 2867 04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:07,280 0, parcel 1, 6, 1, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 1, 3, low for action. Thank you, ma'am. 2868 04:55:07,860 --> 04:55:16,020 Item 2026-1179 District 4, Super District 6, a resolution to commit to the implementation of an outdoor 2869 04:55:16,020 --> 04:55:27,520 recreation park project for the purpose of an authorization to authorize the submission of an 2870 04:55:27,520 --> 04:55:34,180 of conservation fund for improvements to Toby Grant Park located at 593 Parkdale Drive, Scott 2871 04:55:34,180 --> 04:55:40,640 Del Georgia 307-9, parcel 1-8-046-01049. 2872 04:55:41,700 --> 04:55:50,440 Lofrax and ManPio, I move to approve agenda items ending in 0974-1175 and 1179 as they 2873 04:55:50,440 --> 04:55:52,100 approve out of Anne Pecks committee. 2874 04:55:52,520 --> 04:55:53,080 Thank you so much. 2875 04:55:53,820 --> 04:55:53,880 Second. 2876 04:55:53,880 --> 04:55:55,220 Second, by Commissioner Patrick, 2877 04:55:55,440 --> 04:55:57,720 Commissioner Terry, you've requested to speak, you're before? 2878 04:55:58,140 --> 04:55:59,060 Yes, thank you. 2879 04:55:59,140 --> 04:55:59,980 Madam, I'm setting up a second. 2880 04:56:00,060 --> 04:56:01,460 Zach, just a quick question. 2881 04:56:01,680 --> 04:56:04,180 So we did talk about the funding source 2882 04:56:04,180 --> 04:56:09,440 for the operation of charm being the parks department. 2883 04:56:10,220 --> 04:56:12,700 But I think you had indicated that in the future, 2884 04:56:13,160 --> 04:56:15,020 it would be under sanitation. 2885 04:56:15,140 --> 04:56:19,560 Is that still the intent for the next funding round? 2886 04:56:23,580 --> 04:56:30,640 So I know parks, is parks leasing at the charm or is it a lease, right? 2887 04:56:30,940 --> 04:56:31,560 Is that what's? 2888 04:56:34,740 --> 04:56:37,220 We owe it and then releasing a charm. 2889 04:56:38,440 --> 04:56:38,640 Okay. 2890 04:56:38,900 --> 04:56:39,560 So just. 2891 04:56:40,760 --> 04:56:40,840 Okay. 2892 04:56:41,920 --> 04:56:42,000 So. 2893 04:56:42,560 --> 04:56:43,600 So we want this one too much time on. 2894 04:56:43,700 --> 04:56:46,540 I just wanted to flag that the other, I think the other four 2895 04:56:47,940 --> 04:56:52,240 is still sort of up for, I guess, the bait on what will happen with it. 2896 04:56:52,420 --> 04:56:53,660 And I know that. 2897 04:56:53,940 --> 04:56:54,240 Yeah. 2898 04:56:54,500 --> 04:56:56,940 Yeah. And that one point is we saw our fields, but since build with the 2899 04:56:56,940 --> 04:57:01,540 or plaza has been kind of invested in through the tax allocation district, 2900 04:57:01,920 --> 04:57:05,980 this might be a good time to engage with all the commissioners in this area in the 2901 04:57:05,980 --> 04:57:10,040 neighbors, because I think at one point it's supposed to be like a charm, like a farm and charm thing. 2902 04:57:10,700 --> 04:57:14,260 But if we're going to do a different direction, we should kind of either, like, 2903 04:57:14,260 --> 04:57:19,240 the neighbors or at least just, you know, do a reset on that. Okay. Thanks. 2904 04:57:22,290 --> 04:57:22,890 Mr. Bullt. 2905 04:57:24,210 --> 04:57:29,530 And if we could update that agenda item, be able to do a plaza is in Super District 7. 2906 04:57:34,470 --> 04:57:35,190 I yield back. 2907 04:57:35,190 --> 04:57:36,210 Thank you, man. 2908 04:57:38,580 --> 04:57:40,980 So if we can now open the machine for that vote, 2909 04:57:48,930 --> 04:57:48,970 Commissioner. 2910 04:57:50,610 --> 04:57:52,490 Motion to prove, carries. Thank you. 2911 04:57:52,750 --> 04:57:58,310 We're now up a page 42 under solicitor for State Court. 2912 04:57:58,310 --> 04:58:03,470 Item 2026-1211, all commission districts will be impacted. 2913 04:58:03,650 --> 04:58:08,270 The solicitor general's office requests to assume the lease for the vacant office space 2914 04:58:08,270 --> 04:58:14,430 at 1-6-0-clear-mont from the district attorney's office as of September 1, 2026. 2915 04:58:15,230 --> 04:58:20,210 The cost will be approximately $106,000 for the remainder of 2026. 2916 04:58:23,050 --> 04:58:29,370 Second, on that motion to approve, no request to speak, please open the screen for a row. 2917 04:58:38,410 --> 04:58:39,650 Motion to approve carries. 2918 04:58:41,170 --> 04:58:42,610 I am under watershed management. 2919 04:58:42,830 --> 04:58:46,290 I am 26-118-0, district 2, 2920 04:58:46,450 --> 04:58:49,430 super district 6, agreement for the construction and financing. 2921 04:58:49,430 --> 04:58:52,650 of sewer upgrades with P.P.F. 2922 04:58:53,150 --> 04:58:57,450 Emily at 750 comma strive LLC with a contribution 2923 04:58:57,450 --> 04:58:59,470 of $168,500. 2924 04:59:00,550 --> 04:59:01,730 Motion to approve. 2925 04:59:02,510 --> 04:59:03,650 Thank you. 2926 04:59:04,210 --> 04:59:04,850 Is there a second? 2927 04:59:07,210 --> 04:59:08,670 Thank you so much. 2928 04:59:09,570 --> 04:59:10,630 And piece of motion for vote. 2929 04:59:14,510 --> 04:59:16,570 We have two motion carries. 2930 04:59:16,790 --> 04:59:18,150 Two items to take off the table. 2931 04:59:18,270 --> 04:59:19,390 One is on page 25. 2932 04:59:19,710 --> 04:59:21,070 One is on page 30. 2933 04:59:21,370 --> 04:59:22,830 Start on page 25. 2934 04:59:22,830 --> 04:59:23,770 Thank you. 2935 04:59:23,770 --> 04:59:24,030 Thank you. 2936 04:59:24,770 --> 04:59:25,090 Thank you. 2937 04:59:25,090 --> 04:59:30,310 Motion 2 on table item 2 0 2 5 1 5 2 5 second. 2938 04:59:33,120 --> 04:59:33,400 Sorry. 2939 04:59:35,160 --> 04:59:36,220 We're so close. 2940 04:59:41,480 --> 04:59:42,000 I don't know 15. 2941 04:59:42,360 --> 04:59:42,540 15. 2942 04:59:47,690 --> 04:59:48,930 Because you haven't pulled your fabulous. 2943 04:59:49,770 --> 04:59:49,830 Yes. 2944 04:59:49,910 --> 04:59:51,690 The mission theory hadn't drawn us yet. 2945 04:59:57,110 --> 04:59:58,170 Hit the buttons again. 2946 04:59:59,810 --> 04:59:59,970 Thank you. 2947 05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:03,960 Please hit the buttons for that motion to reconsider that item. 2948 05:00:07,530 --> 05:00:08,670 It's your button. 2949 05:00:10,250 --> 05:00:12,010 And who seconded that item? 2950 05:00:12,810 --> 05:00:13,090 Thank you. 2951 05:00:13,830 --> 05:00:14,690 Now, if we can vote. 2952 05:00:25,120 --> 05:00:26,600 Thank you. 2953 05:00:26,880 --> 05:00:27,440 There we go. 2954 05:00:28,260 --> 05:00:28,680 All right. 2955 05:00:28,680 --> 05:00:32,940 Most into reconsider or to take the item off the table. 2956 05:00:33,200 --> 05:00:40,240 So that is item 2025-1525, all commission districts and ordinance to amend the code of the 2957 05:00:40,240 --> 05:00:45,340 How can you Georgia chapter 25 pertaining to water sewers and sewage disposal for other purposes? 2958 05:00:45,840 --> 05:00:47,200 This was a fab item. 2959 05:00:49,700 --> 05:00:52,680 Yes, thank you. Sorry for missing this earlier in the meeting. 2960 05:00:53,520 --> 05:01:02,660 Yes, we are discussing this with CO Williams and the urban lead to figure out a good kind of 2961 05:01:02,660 --> 05:01:07,280 different pilot programs act for the water debt repayment program. 2962 05:01:07,280 --> 05:01:10,380 So, we'll continue those discussions in FAB. 2963 05:01:12,360 --> 05:01:15,330 Let's defer this to September 29th. 2964 05:01:15,840 --> 05:01:16,680 B.O.C. meeting. 2965 05:01:16,820 --> 05:01:18,520 It just gives a little bit of extra time. 2966 05:01:18,840 --> 05:01:19,920 Over the next couple of that meetings. 2967 05:01:21,360 --> 05:01:21,860 Motion minutes. 2968 05:01:21,920 --> 05:01:24,560 I'm going to defer to the September 29th of the FAB. 2969 05:01:25,980 --> 05:01:27,980 Please open the machine for the vote. 2970 05:01:33,580 --> 05:01:35,620 That motion to defer. 2971 05:01:36,940 --> 05:01:37,740 Here we see. 2972 05:01:38,140 --> 05:01:40,560 Now we're going to page 30. 2973 05:01:40,560 --> 05:01:47,520 And that was for item 2026-0218, so if I can get a motion, so move motion to one table. 2974 05:01:55,000 --> 05:01:55,580 Hit your button. 2975 05:02:04,300 --> 05:02:09,040 The item is 0218 on the bottom of page 30. 2976 05:02:29,960 --> 05:02:31,100 Hit your button again, man. 2977 05:02:31,320 --> 05:02:34,620 The motion is in your second place. 2978 05:02:35,120 --> 05:02:37,880 Please open a machine for that photo, and then I'll read it out again. 2979 05:02:42,630 --> 05:02:45,310 All right, this is item 2026-0218. 2980 05:02:45,310 --> 05:02:47,590 and any all-commissioned districts established 2981 05:02:47,590 --> 05:02:49,810 recorders for oversight of blasting operations 2982 05:02:49,810 --> 05:02:52,150 in the Cab County through the adoption 2983 05:02:52,150 --> 05:02:54,830 of a control of blasting and safety ordinance 2984 05:02:54,830 --> 05:02:57,770 to promote public safety, environmental protection, 2985 05:02:57,890 --> 05:03:00,090 and community stability, and for other purposes. 2986 05:03:01,650 --> 05:03:05,850 OK, and I appreciate you sharing that email 2987 05:03:05,850 --> 05:03:08,210 with the red line version and for my colleagues 2988 05:03:08,210 --> 05:03:10,310 for tabling until the end of the meeting. 2989 05:03:13,670 --> 05:03:14,850 I'm going to go ahead and make my motion 2990 05:03:14,850 --> 05:03:15,950 and then do my comments. 2991 05:03:16,110 --> 05:03:20,410 My motion is still to approve because I'm sorry. 2992 05:03:20,770 --> 05:03:21,350 We need a second. 2993 05:03:21,390 --> 05:03:22,250 I do need a second. 2994 05:03:23,010 --> 05:03:24,630 Thank you, Commissioner Davis Johnson. 2995 05:03:25,430 --> 05:03:27,130 Commissioner Bolton has requested to speak to you 2996 05:03:27,130 --> 05:03:27,890 at the floor, man. 2997 05:03:28,350 --> 05:03:33,010 The red line version, all of those suggestions were accepted 2998 05:03:33,010 --> 05:03:33,870 by the board. 2999 05:03:33,890 --> 05:03:35,770 That's what we're voting to approve. 3000 05:03:37,150 --> 05:03:39,590 What's in the red line that you sent to us today. 3001 05:03:40,690 --> 05:03:43,830 So just about all of those come from fire, 3002 05:03:43,830 --> 05:03:50,390 and we've had conversations with fire before we sent it to legal and thereafter so we were aware 3003 05:03:50,390 --> 05:03:52,090 of those suggested changes. 3004 05:03:57,970 --> 05:04:00,150 All right, attorney Phillips, did you need to address anything? 3005 05:04:05,850 --> 05:04:12,450 Commissioner, I understand the position you're in. I will make sure you get a draft. We can 3006 05:04:12,450 --> 05:04:17,560 improve before you're next meeting and every one of your colleagues does if you're willing to 3007 05:04:17,560 --> 05:04:23,620 defer this to the next meeting. If you are not willing to defer this to the next meeting, 3008 05:04:24,480 --> 05:04:29,060 we will submit to you what we would ask you to adopt as a substitute. But those are the 3009 05:04:29,060 --> 05:04:33,420 two options that we can all hear. I publicly apologize that we're in this space. 3010 05:04:36,200 --> 05:04:42,720 Okay, can they go ahead? You want to concede your first opportunity to speak in the Commission 3011 05:04:45,460 --> 05:04:55,600 This is what we'll do and what I can commit to doing is that we ensure that we make a definitive decision out of 3012 05:04:55,600 --> 05:04:59,980 PIX and so I'm seeing this along with my PIX committee member. 3013 05:05:00,980 --> 05:05:14,120 And looking for their solidarity in doing this, because I hate the idea that it's holding up the potential for your agenda item to be able to move forward. 3014 05:05:15,120 --> 05:05:27,280 We have been in earnest a bit of a standstill in terms of the sponsor and it was split in terms of in the decision how we were going to move forward. 3015 05:05:27,280 --> 05:05:33,400 And I know that the law department is prepared with language either way, for either route 3016 05:05:33,400 --> 05:05:35,100 that we specifically go. 3017 05:05:36,120 --> 05:05:42,880 So what I can commit to doing is urging that my committee members that we come to a specific 3018 05:05:42,880 --> 05:05:51,100 consensus so that we can have at least a language direction, it's not withdrawn to be able 3019 05:05:51,100 --> 05:05:57,300 to provide you so that we can make sure that we're able to vote on it coming up, 3020 05:05:59,540 --> 05:05:59,540 and 3021 05:05:59,540 --> 05:06:05,960 with the support of my committee members, because I'll need you as well, for us to make 3022 05:06:05,960 --> 05:06:09,740 sure that we have a definitive decision coming out. 3023 05:06:09,800 --> 05:06:10,480 Are you all back? 3024 05:06:10,900 --> 05:06:11,620 Thank you. 3025 05:06:13,980 --> 05:06:16,000 It's connected to a text item. 3026 05:06:17,820 --> 05:06:24,200 The sound ordinance has been, we've been voting on, is holding it up, and the specific language 3027 05:06:24,200 --> 05:06:28,900 that's going to go into and help drive this particular agenda item. 3028 05:06:29,240 --> 05:06:36,220 It's predicated on, or her item is predicated on that specific language and what recommendation 3029 05:06:36,880 --> 05:06:41,320 that we utilize, whether we're going to, you know, just that direction where we've been 3030 05:06:41,320 --> 05:06:48,240 trying to decipher, which mechanism is going to be used and the, you know, conditional approval 3031 05:06:48,240 --> 05:06:54,800 out of PECS for that language, and so that's been essentially the hold-up where Law has been 3032 05:06:54,800 --> 05:07:00,380 wanting that in needing that in order to give a final recommendation for her language. So again, 3033 05:07:00,900 --> 05:07:08,560 we're going to hear that item today. I'm going to hold my colleagues feet to the fire and 3034 05:07:08,560 --> 05:07:13,860 either making a definitive decision or we're drawing it so that we're not continuing to hold 3035 05:07:13,860 --> 05:07:17,020 that this particular item, I yield back, thank you. 3036 05:07:17,340 --> 05:07:17,680 I apologize. 3037 05:07:17,920 --> 05:07:20,360 What is the motion on the table right now? 3038 05:07:21,020 --> 05:07:22,320 Currently it's to approve. 3039 05:07:22,340 --> 05:07:22,820 To approve. 3040 05:07:23,420 --> 05:07:24,040 OK, thank you. 3041 05:07:24,060 --> 05:07:25,020 Commissioner Davis Johnson. 3042 05:07:26,240 --> 05:07:30,440 Well, I would just like to say, and we've said in the second session, 3043 05:07:31,040 --> 05:07:32,500 welcome back Matthew, 3044 05:07:38,190 --> 05:07:40,050 and you know, 3045 05:07:40,150 --> 05:07:44,270 I would not say that this item is contingent on the passage 3046 05:07:44,270 --> 05:07:53,430 of what they do, and what they do on the Norse ordinance, correct me from Mom, but I would 3047 05:07:53,430 --> 05:08:01,510 not say it's contingent, and we have spoken on the side, and we've been through these discussions 3048 05:08:01,510 --> 05:08:13,370 for several months, but I would just say this in reference to 3049 05:08:16,700 --> 05:08:18,980 Matthew, who's just coming back, 3050 05:08:19,400 --> 05:08:25,700 to give him an opportunity to review his red lines and speak directly with you. 3051 05:08:25,700 --> 05:08:36,900 I would just make, I don't want to do a substitute for an amended motion just to defer it to the next meeting, 3052 05:08:38,500 --> 05:08:50,360 because in County Attorney, this is not dependent on what happens with the North's ordinances. 3053 05:08:50,740 --> 05:08:52,040 It is just a reference. 3054 05:08:52,760 --> 05:08:59,920 there is a reference I would like to stay away from substantive concerns and we will address 3055 05:08:59,920 --> 05:09:06,300 those privately with Dr. Bolton. But the one thing I am comfortable saying is we think 3056 05:09:06,300 --> 05:09:12,280 there are revisions needed so that we can approve it as the form. I apologize to Dr. Bolton 3057 05:09:12,280 --> 05:09:16,840 and I apologize to the whole body that that didn't happen before today and I'm committed 3058 05:09:16,840 --> 05:09:21,900 to make sure that happens for you before the next meeting and everyone gets it with your approval. 3059 05:09:22,040 --> 05:09:24,380 So they can be voted on in the next meeting. 3060 05:09:26,740 --> 05:09:29,520 And that next meeting would be September 15th. 3061 05:09:33,880 --> 05:09:35,460 Do you, Commissioner Davis Johnson? 3062 05:09:36,200 --> 05:09:37,220 Oh, yes. 3063 05:09:37,220 --> 05:09:39,740 Are you accepting the friendly amendment, Commissioner Bolton? 3064 05:09:40,440 --> 05:09:40,740 Yes. 3065 05:09:41,260 --> 05:09:41,480 OK. 3066 05:09:42,160 --> 05:09:43,840 Commissioner Terry, you requested a speak. 3067 05:09:44,820 --> 05:09:45,540 Thank you, Madam. 3068 05:09:45,720 --> 05:09:45,800 I'm sorry. 3069 05:09:46,200 --> 05:09:51,580 I think one question I think that is related to the two different ordinances 3070 05:09:51,580 --> 05:09:56,120 is the question of plainly audible versus decibels. 3071 05:09:56,700 --> 05:09:59,960 So, I assume that's part of your review is that we're not saying. 3072 05:10:12,060 --> 05:10:21,440 I want to clarify a point that Attorney Welch offered this body earlier today. 3073 05:10:22,180 --> 05:10:26,300 Until we adopt the noise ordinance, that reference is misplaced. 3074 05:10:26,300 --> 05:10:31,440 of the absence of it, we have a reference without anything that is on the other side of the reference. 3075 05:10:32,640 --> 05:10:37,280 I'd like to stay away from any further substance, but I would respect for Dr. Bolton, 3076 05:10:37,900 --> 05:10:45,440 and we will give her either as a proposed substitute if this is adopted today or before the next meeting, 3077 05:10:45,720 --> 05:10:50,260 so it could be adopted and not needing a substitute later. All of the changes we recommend. 3078 05:10:51,020 --> 05:10:52,960 And I will make sure that happens, Dr. Bolton. 3079 05:10:54,460 --> 05:11:01,980 Okay, so you accepted the friendly amendment, so now the motion is to defer until September 15th. 3080 05:11:02,640 --> 05:11:04,720 And your second stance committee was Johnson. 3081 05:11:05,460 --> 05:11:07,280 If we can reflect that 3082 05:11:10,060 --> 05:11:11,080 and open the motion 3083 05:11:15,080 --> 05:11:17,520 to defer carries. 3084 05:11:17,860 --> 05:11:22,740 And that was our last item before we jump up. 3085 05:11:23,360 --> 05:11:26,400 I need to talk about committee times what times are committees. 3086 05:11:27,060 --> 05:11:28,400 to 30 for fab. 3087 05:11:28,440 --> 05:11:30,140 To 30 for fab, all right? 3088 05:11:30,660 --> 05:11:32,860 And to 330 for pecs. 3089 05:11:33,220 --> 05:11:33,300 All right. 3090 05:11:33,380 --> 05:11:34,020 Thank you so much. 3091 05:11:34,120 --> 05:11:35,300 If I can get a motion to adjourn. 3092 05:11:35,560 --> 05:11:36,120 So move. 3093 05:11:36,540 --> 05:11:37,080 Just a second. 3094 05:11:37,740 --> 05:11:38,240 Get your buttons. 3095 05:11:44,750 --> 05:11:45,610 Thank you, everybody. 3096 05:12:06,280 --> 05:12:07,460 That's going to drag it out.