[0:02] call to order the regular meeting of the
Del City city council for May 1 2023.
[0:07] Melissa would you call the roll please
councilman Carl Gandy here councilwoman
[0:13] Claudia Brown here councilwoman Pam
Finch here councilman Michael Dean here
[0:18] and mayor Eason the mayor is here would
you rise please for the invocation and
[0:23] I'll ask councilman Dean to bring us the
invitation
[0:28] sure Frank
Lord thank you Lord for this beautiful
[0:32] day for this wonderful nation that we
live in and for all the blessings that
[0:37] you give to us Lord we pray for our
militaries both here at home and around
[0:41] the world and pray for their safety
Lord we have prayed for our First
[0:45] Responders for their Safety and Security
and Lord we pray that you'll be with us
[0:50] tonight as we make decisions for the
city and that we do our best job that we
[0:55] can for our fellow citizens it's in
Jesus name we pray amen amen
[0:59] Chief Burger would you lead us in the
pledge please
[1:06] of the United States of America
[1:11] one nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all
[1:18] you may be seated
[1:33] okay
we're going to begin with a proclamation
[1:38] kids to Parks day
[1:43] whereas May 20 20 23 is annual kids do
Parks day which is organized and
[1:49] launched by the national park trust held
on the third Saturday of May and whereas
[1:54] kids to park stay empowers kids and
encourages families to get outdoors and
[1:58] visit local parks public lands and
Waters and whereas we should encourage
[2:04] children to lead a more active lifestyle
to combat issues of childhood obesity
[2:09] diabetes hypertension and high
cholesterol and whereas kids to park
[2:15] stays we'll broaden children's
appreciation for nature and Outdoors and
[2:20] whereas kids to park day will recognize
the importance of recreating responsibly
[2:25] while enjoying the benefits of the
outdoors now therefore I Floyd a Eason
[2:31] mayor of the city of Del City do hereby
recognize May 20th 2023 as kids to Parks
[2:38] day and I encourage Del City parents to
participate in kids to park stay
[2:43] activities with their children sign
Floyd Easton mayor city of Del City
[2:50] okay we now come to the portion on the
agenda it's the public and Council input
[2:56] anybody that would like to address the
Council on non-agenda items you have up
[3:02] to five minutes to speak on non-agenda
items is there anybody like to speak to
[3:07] the council on non-agenda items
[3:15] seen none
councilman Gandy
[3:19] nothing at this time
[3:23] councilman Brown sorry I had to get
there
[3:27] thank you so much with this being my
first meeting I do actually have a few
[3:32] things to mention uh mayor thank you so
much for giving me the time
[3:37] um first off I want to thank our police
chief and all of our Police Department
[3:43] um I have seen them the most recently uh
being at the rotary as well as our
[3:49] neighborhood watch Association so I know
that they are definitely building
[3:52] relationships and also being completely
available
[3:56] for assisting Rose State College I know
that was very important and a shiny
[4:00] moment for us to be able to to help in
that matter they were also at the tiger
[4:06] Trot
Townsend Elementary is in my ward Ward 3
[4:11] Townsend Elementary had the a tiger Trot
last Saturday not this past Saturday but
[4:16] the Saturday before it was amazing they
had the police were able to to come and
[4:23] make it Dr Cobbs was there we've got
some pictures here um that were sent
[4:28] unfortunately Miss Melissa was not able
to make it today she was not feeling
[4:34] well but
she's a wonderful Community leader uh
[4:38] one of our teachers there at Townsend
has started a fitness club that starts
[4:42] every morning and they are doing a tiger
Trot and she did want me to mention that
[4:48] we they are also doing a Special
Olympics that is going to be on May the
[4:54] 5th there is going to be about
148 participants from nine different
[5:01] schools that will be coming on May the
5th so I would love you guys to be able
[5:07] to attend and cheer them on it's going
to start at 10 A.M and it's going to
[5:12] last till about 1. so I hope to see all
of you guys there another update the
[5:18] Vintage Store and More that is also in
my ward did finally get their brand new
[5:23] sign up so I'd love for you guys to
drive by and see the brand new sign it
[5:27] looks really really good Free Comic Book
Day is coming up the comic book store is
[5:33] Ward 3. don't forget that fabulous spot
there free comic big day is on May the
[5:40] 6th so after our parade on May the 6th
they are giving away free comic books to
[5:46] students and I believe that you get up
to three free starts at 11 there at our
[5:52] amazing comic book store that is
[Music]
[5:56] um
on May the 6th and let's see here I want
[6:01] to give a shout out to one of my danwa
patrol captains um David Ellison he
[6:07] represented Del City very well at the
memorial Marathon
[6:11] um on Saturday he ran the 5K and got
sixth place
[6:16] um he uh in the age range of 70 to 74.
so out of 32 participants he did get
[6:23] sixth place so we're very proud of him
for that and he also ran the half
[6:28] marathon on Sunday so not only did he
run on Saturday he ran on Sunday
[6:33] and met his goal of running it all under
three hours so we're very proud of him
[6:38] for representing Del City and Ward 3.
Dan walgo danwa thank you
[6:47] hmm
councilman Finch
[6:52] most of it I've already given to JD but
also on Tuesday May 9th at 6 30.
[7:00] the OBS will be having a family fun
bicycle ride which will start at The
[7:05] Rotary Park pavilion it'll head down
Dell Road to Glen Avenue just west of
[7:10] Eberly Heights by 6 30. uh
and it'll zigzag back around come up
[7:16] 22nd so the children can learn how to do
their hand signals for bike safety if
[7:23] you have any if you need any information
contact Larry Hopper with the Rotary
[7:28] Club of Del City
[7:34] yes
um there's a couple of different places
[7:36] in the city where we have the road bases
failing which is basically by Destiny uh
[7:44] Christian School on 29th Street so
basically we're ending up with a big
[7:49] pothole out there
and then over on Sooner Road over by
[7:54] some of our uh you know by
teds in different places there there's
[7:58] another one there so the hope is is that
you know we can get a good professional
[8:03] crew out there to go and repair this
before it gets worse instead of waiting
[8:09] for us to think that we need to replace
all the 29th Street hopefully we can get
[8:12] the you know these different bad spots
fixed
[8:16] thank you
okay JD I understand there's a parade
[8:21] going to be happening this weekend so
I've Been Told
[8:25] uh it's going to be a great parade
there's a lot of good activities going
[8:29] on last year was fantastic and it's
going to be better this year is that
[8:32] right
guaranteed by JD
[8:37] but everyone turn out we're lining up at
nine is my understanding
[8:44] and then at 9 45 we're going to have a
pre-opening ceremony
[8:48] where's Brittany
but at 10 o'clock the parade starts
[8:54] there's a new route we're going to start
it at 15th Street rather than at I-40 so
[8:59] we don't have to shut down the access
roads to the interstate this year but
[9:04] it's going to be a great event we're
looking forward to it and I hope
[9:08] everybody can turn out and have a good
time
[9:11] JD what do you got for us mayor isn't it
actually starting on 17th Street
[9:16] so yeah yeah
so 17. so the best place to start would
[9:21] be or show up would be the high school
South
[9:25] the freshest candy is at 15th Street
anyway 15th street 17th Street that's
[9:31] where it begins don't go to I-40 you'll
be all alone
[9:35] okay JD what do you got for us okay a
couple of things uh one thing to get on
[9:40] the calendars for now um we have always
been state of the city in the month of
[9:44] June and one of the requests is is to
Move It from the lunchtime period
[9:48] because so many people have to work to
move it to in the evening so the state
[9:53] of the city for the city of dull city is
scheduled for June 15 2023 at 6 pm at
[9:59] the community center
and it's going to be a chance for all of
[10:02] the council people different uh
Department directors here at the city
[10:06] and myself to give updates on what's
happening with the city give an
[10:10] opportunity for the citizens to interact
with us ask questions things of that
[10:13] nature so that is scheduled for June 15
2023 at 6 pm
[10:19] that's usually a daytime event isn't it
right changing it to 6 p.m yes sir do we
[10:23] get overtime for that
unless
[10:27] we don't never mind sorry
um
[10:30] did a quick update with the parade yes
it's scheduled to kick off at 9 45 on
[10:34] Saturday our final determination for
weather will be by eight o'clock in the
[10:38] morning by our fire chief everything
looks great please pray for Clear Skies
[10:42] we know it's going to be a wonderful
time
[10:45] um bulk trash is to begin on May the
29th you can start placing your trash
[10:49] out by the curb on May 25th not before
code enforcement is still out and about
[10:55] we actually have our new code officer
that just started this week so yeah oh
[10:59] boy yeah let's not let's not put
anything out there before the 25th
[11:04] um but starting on the 25th you can
start putting out the bulk trash and
[11:07] it'll be picked up beginning on the 29th
and last but not least our first two
[11:11] chapters of our comprehensive plan are
complete and have been turned into us
[11:15] for review we're making modifications
and things to that so between the city
[11:19] planner the development director and
myself we'll be reviewing that this week
[11:22] we're very excited to have it and we
will have updates for you all in the
[11:26] coming weeks
all right very good
[11:30] City Clerk I have nothing at this time
all right moving on to item number six
[11:35] consent docket
discussion consideration possible action
[11:40] to approve the following items by
unanimous consent with one motion item a
[11:44] is minutes of April 17 2023 regular
meeting of council approved the minister
[11:49] of regular immunity Council for April 17
2023. Item B is a budget amendment
[11:55] approve a budget budget amendment for
fiscal year 2022 2023 as shown in
[12:01] exhibit a to the council agenda do I
hear a motion make a motion we approve
[12:07] the minutes
second
[12:09] and the budget sorry items A and B thank
you in your second second is for B also
[12:18] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[12:22] take the vote councilman Gandy aye
councilman Finch hi councilman Dean aye
[12:28] councilman Brown
aye mayor votes I the motion carries
[12:34] item number seven presentation dining in
Del City expose for May 2023.
[12:40] discussion consideration Apostle likes
to approve or deny a presentation from
[12:45] the economic development team on the
dining and Del City expose recipient for
[12:50] May 2023 Chelinos Mexican Restaurant
located at 115 South Sooner Road do I
[12:59] hear a motion make a motion we hear the
presentation
[13:04] second
[13:07] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[13:11] take the vote councilman Gandy
councilman Finch hi councilman Dean aye
[13:17] councilman Brown
aye mayor votes I the motion carries
[13:21] let's seize is Kelly given the who's
Roshan is it says Kelly Wilbanks
[13:30] Roshana
please step to the podium and identify
[13:33] yourself for the city clerk
good evening Council Rashana Moore
[13:38] Economic Development marketing
coordinator
[13:43] I'd like to present the May recipient
for dining in Del City
[13:48] which is Chelinos the bio reads that
marcielo Garcia known as chelino came to
[13:57] Oklahoma City from Mexico when he
started out as a dishwasher at a local
[14:00] Mexican restaurant he worked his way up
to cook and then into management he
[14:06] later opened his own restaurant called
Chelinos which now has 10 locations
[14:11] throughout Oklahoma City metro and also
a tortilla factory a meat market and a
[14:17] Mexican import store so we want to just
invite everyone to be a part of their
[14:21] story and join them at 1 15 Sooner Road
in Del City and watch their business
[14:29] grow
um
[14:32] we have
Victor Soto
[14:38] and he's from Chelinos and then we're
going to do a presentation
[15:37] all right
[Applause]
[15:56] good evening good evening
councilman women
[16:01] uh
I would like to thank the city of the
[16:06] city of Del City
for the opportunity that has given us
[16:14] chilino Marcelino Garcia
founder and the corporation of Salinas
[16:24] and would like to
thank also all our patrons from Dell
[16:32] City Midwest City and surrounding areas
uh
[16:40] uh thank you very much for this award
[16:44] thank you guys
[Applause]
[17:05] okay I gotta say I gotta say we hosted a
meet and greet for Marissa treat at your
[17:12] place here recently
wonderful
[17:16] that little room you have on the North
side it's worked perfect and the food
[17:21] was excellent thank you for having us
out there thank you very much all right
[17:24] thank you
thank you guys
[17:40] all right
[17:46] we do have samples
[17:55] um
let's we'll get them in just a minute
[17:58] let's get them in just a minute we have
some things we need to knock out first
[18:02] I'd like to jump ahead on the agenda to
item number 15.
[18:08] item number 15 is Oklahoma Natural Gas a
division of one gas Incorporated
[18:13] non-exclusive franchise and we are going
to take these separately we're going to
[18:17] do a first and it's discussion
consideration possible action approve
[18:22] approve with modifications or deny the
following item a is ordinance number
[18:27] 1417
granting to Oklahoma Natural Gas a
[18:32] division of one gas Incorporated a
non-exclusive franchise for the
[18:36] installation operation and maintenance
of a gas distribution system in the city
[18:41] of Dale City and the selling of gas
therein for a term of 25 years
[18:47] authorized mayor to endorse sane do I
hear a motion make a motion to approve
[18:53] ordinance number 1417 authorized mayor
to endorse them
[19:01] second
[19:04] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[19:10] yeah
would you like to come up to would you
[19:14] come to the podium state your name for
the clerk please
[19:18] I'm Marty oyler o-y-l-e-r with Oklahoma
Natural Gas mayor and city council it's
[19:24] nice to be here this evening I have a
couple of co-workers with me Marlo
[19:27] Freeman our community relations manager
and our managing attorney Dustin
[19:31] Frederick is with me this evening I
think you have a draft of the franchise
[19:35] and you've had an opportunity to review
it we began discussions in November with
[19:41] the mayor and the former city manager
and Melissa and since then we've had
[19:46] several conversations via email and
otherwise with Beverly Palmer so in
[19:52] front of you you have the draft that we
would like to have approved this evening
[19:56] and then it will go to a vote of the
people in August on August 8th it will
[20:02] be for a 25 year franchise agreement
beginning at 3 percent which you're at
[20:09] three percent now and to just give you
an idea of what we're talking about we
[20:14] pulled numbers before we met in November
of the last 12 months of the three
[20:20] percent fee that we collected on a
residential commercial and Industrial
[20:25] customers not including the transport
customers and the amount collected in
[20:30] that 12-month period was 236 thousand
dollars
[20:34] so that's that was at three percent so
this new draft includes it starts at
[20:39] three percent and then in 2025 it will
go to
[20:45] 3.05 percent and then it will go up 0.05
percent every five years
[20:51] until
um so 2030 it'll be 3.10 3.15 and 2035
[20:57] and then uh 3.20 in 2040 till the end of
the franchise so that'll give you an
[21:04] idea there'll be a little bit of an
increase there we do have
[21:08] included in this draft the ability to
collect from our transport from the
[21:15] transport customers in your community
there are about 30 of those and we would
[21:20] be collecting a fee on the commodity
that they are purchasing so our
[21:26] transport customers they pay us directly
for the transportation the movement of
[21:31] the gas delivery to them and then they
buy the commodity or the natural gas
[21:36] from a third party so we take an average
at that cost because we don't know what
[21:40] they pay because they know negotiate
that with their supplier so what we do
[21:46] is we just take an average at that from
several different sources and we collect
[21:51] the three percent and then provide that
as well so that would be the increase if
[21:56] we look at that
we did kind of a high level estimate on
[22:00] existing quantities and it looks like
that would be about eighteen hundred
[22:06] dollars a month
if that if we did all 30 and that does
[22:10] include some schools and so we might
want to exclude some of those but
[22:15] they're there
[22:19] all right so
it's it's there's a few other words and
[22:24] several pages and I'm happy to answer
any questions that you might have and if
[22:29] I can't answer them I know definitely
can so we appreciate the partnership for
[22:34] 25 years that we've had with this
community and we look forward to a
[22:37] continued partnership
any questions so am I section seven it's
[22:42] got duty to move and alter lines
can you explain some of those things
[22:48] that you had envisioned that you would
pay for okay because it's part of this
[22:54] is It's kind of murky with with public
you know excluding private entities
[23:00] which makes sense and and other public
entities
[23:03] right so what we are what we will pay to
move are our lines in the public ways
[23:11] the relocation uh to expand streets
and for the relocation of Ong facilities
[23:19] within public ways to build expand new
and existing City buildings
[23:27] so if we're in the public way not
private easement but public way then we
[23:32] would move is that so for a public way
all of our
[23:38] we have plats in our city and so all the
plants dedicate all the utility
[23:44] easements to the city and so our utility
easements included in this
[23:53] they are
if it's a public
[23:56] it's a private
and we're we're there because of a
[24:01] private easement that we've obtained
then it is not
[24:04] so a private easement would be that the
private landowner for example we
[24:10] so in 1970 if you got it from Mr Epperly
and uh who developed a lot of this and
[24:19] then he did the plat and all the lines
were in the UT or in the right away in
[24:25] easement would you cover those no if
it's pre-existing
[24:32] so so for example oftentimes we have in
some communities like that for growth
[24:36] opportunities say the roads expand and
so we were private easement
[24:40] and they come in and obtain the ability
to expand out
[24:44] four lighting the roads well those were
private easements that we had before
[24:47] they become became public
so that is not covered
[24:54] under the purchased and easement or you
know there's other methods that we could
[24:58] get those easements for all and so we
have a
[25:01] a pipeline that goes down Sunny Lane
that's in the right hand lane that gets
[25:07] repaired by you guys about once a year
once or twice a year just finished up
[25:12] so that one causes us an inconvenience
is there a way to get that line moved
[25:19] I would have to look and see what line
it is and how large it is and
[25:24] see what the easement rights are there
and obviously you've got to have an
[25:27] opportunity to have Lane to move it to
as well and so we have lines that cross
[25:32] that follow sunny lane or or in fact
that same Lane one that we're talking
[25:37] that's going to most likely cross
um I-40 at the sunny lane bridge
[25:44] what do you envision happening whenever
four to eight years and they start on
[25:48] the next phase of the highway
reconstruction
[25:52] do you envision that that whenever they
ask us to go and try to move that
[25:58] pipeline you think that you're at this
part which again is all about the roads
[26:02] being moved and it's our city of Del
City right away because we were here
[26:06] before I-40 would that one be covered
hypothetically you're asking for details
[26:12] I'd have to look
in right so if it's an ODOT project
[26:21] some of those projects that are covered
by ODOT they provide they reimburse on
[26:25] some of those projects but they're all
specific we apply to ODOT for any of
[26:29] those dollars that we can get to
reimburse for any revocations so
[26:34] they end up we could hope that they
might pay some percentage of it
[26:39] but we've been through this already with
Sooner Road in particular where we had
[26:45] to relocate the ONG one and so our city
ended up having to pay for you know
[26:51] fully for it or at least 125 000 or so
to move that line
[26:56] so we have the interstate expansion
happening again and as I read this part
[27:01] the problem that I have with it is is
that you have other public entities so
[27:05] whenever we're looking at I-40
the L City existed in 1950 53.
[27:13] 48 sorry 88 1948
OMG yeah 10 you're one gas everybody
[27:20] else you guys came in here very I would
assume fairly close to whenever we were
[27:25] there and have adopted this part and the
interstate was not there
[27:31] so it was the old cities easement
and so
[27:36] I want to see before we go and sign this
to get the ease get this part figured
[27:41] out before we go through this whole
ritual again about moving
[27:46] pipelines because we definitely know
that we're going to be expanding and
[27:50] changing out I-40 and for you know if we
paid for the last one
[27:56] and so we would like to see about
getting something specified in this part
[28:01] because it's confusing in the contract
if we went to court you know it says
[28:04] public entity it's like going it's
public ways Public public ways public
[28:08] this part public ways is defined so
[28:12] if the only way the word existing in the
location where a pipe is is because it's
[28:16] a public way that's owned by the city
that is going to be paid for by us or by
[28:22] the remainder of our customers if we
have rights to be there out
[28:31] now that's the easiest way to look at it
right so can we get that in a letter so
[28:37] we know that because I understand
perfectly that you know that yes you can
[28:41] easily you can easily have a easement
again just just like Mr erpperly or
[28:45] whatever that example where you actually
paid for that easement and I fully
[28:49] understand that part but this part about
us moving the last one as far as I know
[28:54] that was that was a public easement we
can look into the details of what that
[28:59] is I don't know what that project was I
guess fortunately or unfortunately this
[29:03] is a legal document that's wrapped by
attorney so when I look at it I know
[29:07] what that means and the enormous Palmer
can understand what that is it's not you
[29:12] know it's a legal contract so it is
illegal
[29:16] in public ways as to
[29:19] fund the standard draft that we provide
all cities that has standard definitions
[29:24] in it for what all these things are so
it's how we
[29:28] there's something in there that it is
not understood clearly or misunderstood
[29:34] I'd be more than happy to look back to
see if there's some adjustment to the
[29:37] language
[29:41] okay
so so I can tell you it is definitely
[29:45] confusing and it's meant and I and I was
like going this is great until I read
[29:48] all the caveats to it and it's like
going ah this is their way out for each
[29:52] one of these things because because you
can go and say that the public entity
[29:55] being Dot
well just like you said oh that's
[29:59] Federal money and and so obviously we're
not going to do it
[30:02] um so if we could look into that and
then the other concern that I have is is
[30:06] that
the city of the village is building a
[30:09] park and I've been watching it because
my my infrastructure is affected by
[30:14] waiting for them
and the village ended up just needing to
[30:17] have an important line that was very it
wasn't buried deep enough to get it you
[30:23] know moved or removed in this part and
it ended up taking them five months so
[30:27] the construction is going on everything
had to come to a complete stop
[30:30] everybody's you know the streets are
torn out everything's in a in a mess and
[30:35] as I'm reading this part that you know
it's saying that you're going to do it
[30:38] as quickly as possible
you know and so
[30:43] are did they have trouble because their
contractor contacted you to go and say
[30:47] could you please do this work I'm just
kind of trying to understand why would
[30:52] it take five months up at the city of
the village
[31:01] the knowing it just
[31:05] just across the state so I do not know
the details of every project
[31:10] going back historically that we've had
and know the details of what that is and
[31:15] there's many things that can lead to
differences of why it takes so long that
[31:18] maybe we're waiting on other utilities
to move out of the way before we can
[31:21] move it may be that there is a shortage
of specific materials that need to be
[31:26] brought in with you know especially here
lately with all kinds of shortages on
[31:30] materials that we're waiting on it could
be just Crews themselves or getting into
[31:36] you know there's only so much labor that
can be done as well and so
[31:43] does your contractors the guys who are
actually doing the work you know and I
[31:47] met a few of them and so forth and do
they know that you have this part in
[31:51] contracts with the uh with the easements
that says that you know you're going to
[31:55] do it with urgency
you know with with some with some sorts
[31:59] of urgency does does the rest of the
people know to follow this part you can
[32:04] franchise itself to the communities that
they had the franchises whatever
[32:08] specifics on timing in there to say each
project is done by a certain amount of
[32:12] time I mean that's just unmanageable to
say that
[32:16] of all circumstances we're going to look
forward and having there a certain
[32:19] period of time that everything is done
obviously projects have
[32:24] time and considerations whether it's
emergency whether it's safety related
[32:27] compliance related all those things take
precedence and then there's other items
[32:32] that could impact what the time frame is
of certain projects being done but yes
[32:36] it is not detailed in a franchise that
says every specific project of anything
[32:41] done is going to be done within a
certain period of time right but again
[32:44] that particular one was you know yeah
right that particular one is the cost of
[32:50] City it costs the city a lot of money
and the same way as far as for the right
[32:55] away the city of the village and the
same way as for our moving of the Year
[32:59] other things so those are the two things
that that you know I just would like to
[33:04] do but on the other hand is thank you
for having such a such a thing as this
[33:09] like I said I was very happy to see
those parts and like and I would just
[33:13] want to make sure that everybody is
clear because you know our lawyer the
[33:18] different people that we ask you know we
we have a specific project of I-40
[33:23] that's going to happen
and why not go ahead and get this
[33:26] figured out so we have an answer because
once we sign this thing we're not going
[33:31] to have this discussion anymore all of a
sudden it's going to be no well I would
[33:34] say that we would have discussions of
how that's done so you wouldn't be
[33:37] putting specific projects that may or
may not occur within a franchise of how
[33:42] you operate so we do have communities
that don't have franchises so I I will
[33:46] tell you that having the franchise is
very beneficial because it lays out all
[33:49] the roles and responsibilities for both
parties not just us but the city as well
[33:53] so there's an understanding so I do
think the franchise is very beneficial
[33:57] from that standpoint there are some
communities that they don't have a
[34:00] franchise that they're working with and
so there's not a document to point to
[34:04] these are the guidelines of how we're
going to be working in
[34:08] it's very difficult to take a project
that I don't know the specifics about of
[34:11] where the lines in that may or may not
occur at some point in the time and give
[34:15] a guarantee on what that is and who's
going to fund it and pay for it so so
[34:19] let's talk about a specific
this is something that I've been
[34:23] contending with over the last two and a
half years
[34:26] the address is 405 South Sunny Lane
there's a gas line buried there and it's
[34:32] about six to eight inches deep
and we can't pour a sidewalk because the
[34:38] gas line is too shallow we can't dig
down and put the sidewalk in there's a
[34:43] section of sidewalk that's out and I
have personally been complaining about
[34:48] that gas line for two years
everyone smiled they'll send a man with
[34:53] a truck out there and he'll look at it
and say yeah that that Line's too
[34:57] shallow our subcontractor ran the line
too shallow and he drives off and we
[35:02] never see him again is this
[35:07] it's on sunny lane
and
[35:11] it's in the easement because we're
trying to put a sidewalk in the easement
[35:15] and we have to stop there because we
can't dig down below the gas line
[35:20] and this has been an ongoing problem
throughout Midway Village the gas lines
[35:24] are buried too shallow so are you
telling me because the gas lines that
[35:30] run east and west from Sunny Lane
would probably be in private easement
[35:36] because it's going to be the homeowners
backyards that's a private easement
[35:43] yet the the gas line was put in
incorrectly in that it was put into
[35:48] shallow and we've never gotten relief
from that
[35:52] well but you're saying to relocate that
line it becomes not your problem because
[35:58] it's in a private easement and I say it
is your problem because you put the gas
[36:03] line in too shallow and there was one
hookup that I saw personally and they
[36:09] had to dig under the gas line and go
straight down because it was too shallow
[36:14] to come off the side or the top
why have we not gotten any service in
[36:22] getting that line deep like it's
supposed to be
[36:28] depending on what
what are you talking about a main line
[36:31] or a service line service well a main
line it's a six inch line that runs it
[36:36] feeds the neighborhood and so there are
different requirements we have when
[36:40] construction is done and if it's too
shallow and it's on us we will lower it
[36:44] oftentimes we also find in cities where
other people privately come and they do
[36:49] grading and things and they will make
what used to be a much deeper line a
[36:55] and I've heard that excuse and there's a
fence in there that's probably been
[36:59] there 40 years
and the trees are grown up around it
[37:03] that line has been there for a long time
I I believe we've we've discussed this
[37:09] in the past
yeah and I've not seen anything done
[37:13] about it where the line crosses from
Sunny Lane Road that's in a public
[37:18] easement that portion is too shallow
it's so shallow we can't put a sidewalk
[37:23] there
[37:26] no no
[37:29] the curb has not been lowered and it's
just barely at the curb level without
[37:34] the specifics in front of it we would
have construction you know records of
[37:37] when it was origin
[37:41] well I know there's two gas lines that
run through that neighborhood that are
[37:44] probably six to eight inches deep what's
the standard for burying a gas line what
[37:48] depth is
[37:53] you're certainly an attorney I got to
give you that well guys I probably know
[37:57] a lot of things there's a lot of
differences between what you're doing
[38:00] and you can't just make overarching
statements to Encompass all things of
[38:05] course
of course but so take note of that
[38:08] address I I'm interested in getting
these lines buried at a correct depth
[38:13] now now the problem is if the city comes
in and condemns that line for being too
[38:18] shallow all the customers on that line
are going to suffer from lack of gas
[38:21] service so it's kind of a rock and a
hard place
[38:26] but it's not safe the way it is and so
far all we've gotten is a guy to come
[38:30] out with a truck look at it and go yep
that's too shallow and he leaves is that
[38:36] no that's a commercial property is that
so what's the name of the commercial
[38:40] property Sonny's Auto Trim is the
business that's there okay
[38:45] but the line runs south of it runs on
the fence line it's it's the property
[38:49] line and no it has not been graded it
has not been lowered what I suspect is
[38:55] that line was put in there by a
subcontractor and they did horizontal
[38:59] boarding rather than putting in when
they were replacing the original steel
[39:03] line they went to that orange plastic
and they used a horizontal boring with
[39:09] that and they put it too shallow and
we've been complaining about it for two
[39:13] and a half years and we've not getting
any responses so right now your track
[39:18] record is is not sitting very well with
me
[39:21] we can't finish our sidewalk because
your gas line is in the way and that's
[39:25] in the Sunny Lane right away and that's
a public easement is the natural gas
[39:29] account
[39:33] there is an account there but that line
runs East I'm sorry that run runs West
[39:38] from Sunny Lane and it runs the length
of the block it serves the whole block
[39:43] so that's is there a so so I mean both
of these you know both of our different
[39:49] examples here is is there going to be a
contact or somebody to go in in and do
[39:57] these questions you know to resolve
these things instead of you know that
[40:02] you call you know private people
different people call out to try to do
[40:05] this they want me to look up the issue
in the village oh and we don't we don't
[40:09] need to worry about the bill we don't
need to worry about the village Village
[40:13] finally got to talk about on the village
we can
[40:16] make some calls we can come
[40:21] around
[40:24] again it's not about a single one it's
about finding out how the franchise
[40:30] agreement is going to work because here
are some of the examples that we kind of
[40:34] gave you and each one of them that where
you look at is is nothing happens
[40:40] they're also actually very specific so
but we do have a community relations
[40:44] manager that that would be your contact
just in general that you could call if
[40:47] someone has a question be able to know
the note yeah
[40:52] so
okay and then I would just point out
[40:55] just to make sure you're all aware the
franchise does expire in July is when
[41:00] that expires I I did talk to Beverly
with the election cycle and just
[41:06] you know for a short period of time we
could keep that open and still we met
[41:10] you know technically without the
election passing we should not be
[41:12] collecting those dollars from customers
because you all are aware it's a collect
[41:16] and remit so every dollar we collected a
franchise view from our customers has
[41:20] turned around to this so it's just to
collect and remit so I did let her know
[41:26] that to the extent we had a short period
of time between if we couldn't make an
[41:30] election prior to the expiration that we
would continue collecting those for a
[41:34] short Arena businesses just so we're
clear this is technically a July
[41:37] election but if we were to host it it
would fall on July 4th the Tuesday July
[41:42] 4th would be the election is that right
Beverly
[41:45] so we're moving it to August the
election board has to be open for early
[41:49] voting and because of that the election
board employees would have to work on
[41:53] the fourth of July if we did a July
election the the day of voting is not
[41:57] but early voting is so they'd have to be
open so to accommodate them they
[42:01] actually called me and asked to see
would that be appropriate and acceptable
[42:05] and then I reached out to Ong and they
said that that would be fine for one
[42:10] month all right so another thing I
didn't see in here is this
[42:14] um is Ong paying for the election yes
and uh
[42:21] I I think that should be it that's it
all right I'm have something to say
[42:26] thank you so much for being here you
guys again I am quite new
[42:31] um so I did want to first of all um
thank you guys so much for being here
[42:36] um OMG of course is something that we
cannot live without so I appreciate you
[42:40] guys paying attention to our concerns
knowing now the timeline
[42:45] um I think that that's something that we
would be able to discuss and I think
[42:49] communication and building that
relationship is probably where we would
[42:54] really benefit from so getting to know
her hopefully being able to address
[42:58] those uh personal issues or some of
those individual issues I know you guys
[43:03] will be able to do that for us and
hopefully thank goodness for councilman
[43:08] Dean who asked all the right questions
and uh we can always depend on him to be
[43:13] able to keep an eye out for us as well
although I know that you guys are are
[43:18] here to do the right thing but I think
with speaking I'd love to actually speak
[43:23] with you and and meet with you in more
in depth so then that way we can get to
[43:27] know each other and hopefully start
addressing some of these issues for some
[43:31] of our citizens because I know you guys
do a great job so thank you guys for
[43:34] being here
what
[43:38] fix it
okay
[43:42] all right moving on we're at item a we
have a motion and a second is there any
[43:46] further discussion yes so at this point
we have a contract that does not that is
[43:53] not
specific enough
[43:55] for us to know and we have projects that
are going to be 100 000 or more that we
[44:01] already know about coming up
so my thought is that we
[44:06] wait till the next meeting that we have
an answer or a better specification on
[44:11] it because it wouldn't take long for
them to look at their maps to figure out
[44:14] how many times they cross I-40 yeah and
come back and tell us that we're going
[44:18] to cover this one and this one and not
this one because this one's in the
[44:21] private easement and we all agree and
and we have something documented
[44:26] so again I-40 was not there whenever our
easements went in so we should not have
[44:33] to pay for it like we did last time so
um City attorney are we going to be on
[44:38] timeline for an August 8 election if we
postpone this two weeks
[44:47] putting it on this one was making it a
little bit tight
[44:52] we have to have everything submitted at
least 60 days before so perhaps we could
[44:57] do june even when I submitted it the
first time I thought we had enough
[45:00] leeway and they actually needed
excessive so if we did
[45:05] did it do it one more continuance it
have to be May 15th but I think what
[45:09] they need is specific addresses specific
what's going to happen on I-40 exactly
[45:15] where is it because you can't talk in
generalities you have to look at each
[45:19] property record and easement and what's
there and how they come how they've
[45:25] acquired it and that's going to make the
determination but unless they know the
[45:28] exact places I think it will be very
difficult for them to give an answer so
[45:33] we could we could move ahead with
ordinance 1417 and then when the final
[45:39] issues are hammered out in the contract
then assign the contract
[45:43] is that that's doable
yes we can do that so do this however if
[45:51] we don't like the contract we don't sign
the contract well no you're we already
[45:55] have the election
[45:58] so I mean you can't do you can't do that
without having your having this stuff
[46:03] done and it would you know
and again I I called and tried to talk
[46:09] to everybody and everybody was going
down to I think I had a bell or
[46:12] somewhere last meeting yeah
um
[46:15] so
again you can't
[46:19] call the election whenever we don't know
what we're elected on right I think we
[46:23] could perhaps put it on the next agenda
once again and see would that give you
[46:28] enough time
Dustin to be able to look at all the
[46:32] specific
only specifics and I'm sorry to do this
[46:35] is this the mayor has a great thing and
not you know but the only ones that
[46:40] truly make a a huge difference to the
city is as we know for a fact that we're
[46:44] going to be moving gas lines
all it would take me is about two
[46:49] minutes to look at your gas gas line map
and ask you about these you know you
[46:54] know whichever runs across is under I'm
40.
[47:04] Hey sir sir just yes right so 940. okay
does the other two understand this is
[47:09] that you've had you had the maps you
know how many times you crossed the
[47:13] interstate between and it's going to be
treasure Creek which is just to the east
[47:17] of uh that's where they stopped the
under the construction and it goes over
[47:21] to Bryant
and so in that distance you just look
[47:26] for those Crossings and we get an answer
on those crosses and we and like I said
[47:30] maybe you have one main line that you
have a private easement from the
[47:34] beginning
sure you don't pay for that one but the
[47:36] ones that we have these let's just bring
those things in or have your guys come
[47:40] because it is a time crunch I would like
for you guys to get it done
[47:50] this isn't a maybe a project this is
going to be a project
[47:54] I would say let's just go ahead and vote
on this this evening
[48:12] finding out
[48:19] for me to answer
[48:23] does our community direct do you
understand what we're asking for
[48:27] okay
okay and can we get that done in the
[48:31] next two weeks before our next meeting
so we have an answer
[48:34] because if not we're not going to make
it in August
[48:41] why would it why would this be difficult
either one you're in the right of way
[48:45] and the easement or you're not in
easement this isn't this isn't a rocket
[48:49] science type of thing is it either one
it applies or it doesn't do you remember
[48:53] how you said that the attorney should be
able to answer that question for us you
[48:59] can't answer the question I mean it
again if it's in right away then yes you
[49:02] guys do it and if it's not in it if it's
in a private easement then we do it
[49:07] we understand that
right
[49:11] I'm not asking you to do that do you
understand okay okay hold it hold it all
[49:17] right that's enough that's enough
look we can approve this ordinance
[49:23] and then not signing the contract until
we get the answers that we know even
[49:28] though it's scheduled for election we
can still work this out we have plenty
[49:31] of time to work this out let's move
forward with this let's vote on this we
[49:36] have a motion in a second let's vote on
it and we we're just not going to sign
[49:40] the existing contract that's presented
to us tonight
[49:44] that will give the City attorney time to
walk through it and and consider some of
[49:49] these objections that we're talking
about here
[49:52] can you do that Beverly yes I can
certainly do that but it kind of comes
[49:56] down to the specifics on each location
as they said if it's something that they
[50:00] had pre-existing that they bought from
somebody whether it be a long long time
[50:04] ago if they paid to be there and they
had the right they will not pay if it's
[50:09] ours and they're an R right away then
they'll pay and I sent out examples to
[50:13] councilman Dean okay so it will depend
on every location and you'd have to look
[50:18] at each spot along the way we're
specifically asking about Crossing I-40
[50:23] because we know that's coming in about
five six years and that's why we're
[50:26] being specific about that piece but that
term the terminology would also apply to
[50:31] that and I'm satisfied that that we can
work that so
[50:35] all right let's move forward we have a
motion and a second on the floor
[50:40] let's take the vote councilman Finch
aye councilman Gandy
[50:45] aye
councilman Brown
[50:49] aye councilman Dean no
mayor votes I the motion carries let's
[50:54] move on to Item B resolution number zero
five zero one two zero two three a
[50:59] calling and holding a special election
in the city of Del City for the purpose
[51:03] of granting a non-exclusive franchise to
Oklahoma Natural Gas a division of one
[51:09] gas Incorporated a franchise for the
installation operation and maintenance
[51:13] of a gas distribution system
in the city of Dale City and the selling
[51:18] of gas therein for a term of 25 years
authorized mayor to endorse same direct
[51:24] staff accordingly do I hear a motion
so we just approved the contract in Ina
[51:33] not his final form granting a
non-exclusive franchise for this part
[51:39] I don't understand what you just what
you just approved there okay
[51:48] do I hear a motion on Item B I'll make a
motion to approve zero five zero one
[51:54] 2023-a as written authorized mayor to
endure same direct staff accordingly
[52:00] second
[52:06] we have a motion and a second is there
any discussion
[52:11] take the vote councilman Finch aye
councilman Brown
[52:15] aye councilman Gandy
[52:43] uh no
councilman Dean
[52:47] now mayor votes I the motion carries
item number see discussion consideration
[52:53] possible acts to approve approve with
modifications or deny a special election
[52:57] Proclamation wherein the mayor of the
city of Dale City calls a special
[53:01] election to be held on August 8 2023 for
the purpose of the election by
[53:07] registered qualified electors for Grant
taking a non-exclusive franchise to
[53:13] Oklahoma Natural Gas a division of one
gas Incorporated for the installation
[53:18] operation and maintenance of a gas
distribution system in the city of Dell
[53:23] City and the selling of gas they're in
for a term of 25 years and specifying
[53:28] polling places authorized mayor to
endorse same direct staff accordingly do
[53:33] I hear a motion
I'll make a motion to approve as written
[53:39] authorized American door same direct
staff accordingly
[53:44] second
[53:47] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[53:51] yes so once again
an item a
[53:55] with the ordinance
[53:58] we're done with item a I'm sorry I'm
discussing the item C thank you but
[54:05] Madam counselor
is there any way to keep them signing
[54:09] the contract as it's in how to make
the items because we've approved it and
[54:16] it says to have the mayor endorse the
same so with the way that it's been done
[54:20] is there any way you know any of these
different thoughts or questions or
[54:24] clarifications is there any reason for
them to do this the reason to approve
[54:30] and have a special election Proclamation
is so that we can have the election the
[54:35] items that are going to the people are
do we want to continue on with a 25-year
[54:42] agreement with Ong or do we not in the
election they are not reading every word
[54:47] of our ordinance so I believe that we
could possibly massage this and what's
[54:52] in the packet about what the
proclamation is and what the resolution
[54:56] is is that we're going to continue on
with this relationship so I think that
[54:59] you could be able to do this and we
could still modify within a short time
[55:04] the ordinance that we would want to get
that on file this is basically to allow
[55:09] us to call an election
[55:14] all right
but we didn't authorize a modification
[55:19] to a
[55:22] pre-approved
so we're on item C I know mayor but
[55:28] we're gonna do the special election
again that's the question that's the
[55:33] question but again for everybody to know
is the only way to at all possibly slow
[55:38] down this train that that we have now
made a mistake on in item a
[55:43] by trying to rush this thing through is
to stop one of these two
[55:48] just stop what to stop item C or B
[55:56] if we don't approve item C so the
question is is in item a we approved it
[56:01] as it was written there's no
modification there as it's written it
[56:04] says ordinance number 04 or 1417
granting to Oklahoma Natural Gas a
[56:10] division of one gas a non-exclusive
franchise for the installation operation
[56:14] and maintenance of a gas distribution
system in the city of Del City and the
[56:19] selling of gas therein for a term of 25
years authorized mayor to endorse things
[56:23] so that says we are grading a franchise
that does not dictate the terms of the
[56:28] franchise
[56:31] which item dictates the terms of the
franchise and at what point do we what
[56:36] point do we the actual contract dictates
the terms and so which of these items
[56:41] actually allows that contract to be
reviewed by Council the the council
[56:46] approving of that contract that that's
the question that I understand okay I
[56:52] understand
City attorney
[56:55] you're talking about massaging the
contract that's what we're talking about
[56:58] is making the contract work
[57:04] councilman Gandy does have a good point
when he said that they it's supposed to
[57:08] be approved or approved with
modifications or deny and I believe that
[57:11] the motion was for approve although we
did speak about the modifications so
[57:15] perhaps we need to clarify what the
approval is to approve with
[57:20] modifications
on item a is that I think that's what
[57:25] councilman Dean are you suggesting that
we go back and re-run item a and approve
[57:32] with modifications with modifications
yes I'm okay with that
[57:36] that proposal so we're going to retract
that vote
[57:41] now we're getting in some Uncharted
water I think that we would be modifying
[57:46] the uh the motion on part a
and the approved with modifications
[57:54] because I think we should have made that
approved with modifications is what
[57:57] you're saying
correct okay let's let's go back and
[58:02] look at that we're back at item a and I
will call for a motion and
[58:08] hopefully the motion will be approved
with modification
[58:11] you'll make that motion
[58:15] unless you want to modify your most I
mean
[58:17] yes I would like to do that
I would like to amend the item a
[58:23] ordinance number 1417.
to say that
[58:29] approved with modification approved with
modifications and authorized Merit to
[58:33] endorse them
second
[58:38] I'm not used to writing CB down there
I'll have to get into that she she would
[58:43] like you to uh Kyle you were the one you
seconded so you need to Second it second
[58:48] yes
that'll be cow Gandy
[58:52] all right we have a motion in a second
the motion is now to approve with
[58:55] modifications everybody good
[59:00] let's take a vote councilman Finch aye
councilman Gandy aye councilman Brown
[59:05] aye councilman Dean aye mayor votes aye
the motion carries it is now approved
[59:09] with modification is like pulling teeth
[59:14] um we've got to backtrack to item C now
and item C was discussion consideration
[59:20] possible likes to approve approved with
modifications or deny a special election
[59:23] Proclamation according to mayor of the
city of Dale City calls for a special
[59:27] election to be held on August 8 2023 for
the purpose of the election by
[59:31] registered qualified electors for
granting a non-exclusive franchise to
[59:36] Oklahoma Natural Gas a division of one
gas Incorporated for the installation
[59:40] operation and maintenance of a gas
distribution system in the city of Del
[59:44] City and the selling of gas therein for
a term of 25 years and specifying
[59:49] polling places authorized mayor to
endure same direct staff accordingly we
[59:55] previously had a motion by Pam Finch
does your motion stand
[59:59] yes it does we have a second by Claudia
Brown as your second stand yes it does
[1:00:04] let's call is there any discussion
let's call for a vote councilman Finch
[1:00:10] councilman Brown
aye councilman Gandy aye councilman Dean
[1:00:15] aye mayor votes I the motion carries
thank you very much yes ma'am
[1:01:03] we'll be in touch
and I think Mr Houck our city manager he
[1:01:09] he's fully aware of what's going on here
and I'm sure that he could he would be
[1:01:14] happy to do it you don't need to meet
with all of us is as uh he knows he
[1:01:18] knows the issues and he'll take good
care of us and so that way we can
[1:01:21] expedite it on our side the city manager
and I will make ourselves available
[1:01:26] thank you
okay let's move on we're going back to
[1:01:29] item number eight donation by Parker
Brothers for Armed Forces Day in
[1:01:34] Shriners parade
[1:01:37] what
[1:01:41] Okay so
[1:01:44] she's hungry
let's finish eight and then we'll go to
[1:01:49] queso
discussion consideration possible acts
[1:01:52] to accept or decline a sponsorship check
from the Parker Brothers Roofing Company
[1:01:55] in the amount of
670.94 for the annual Armed Forces Day
[1:02:00] Parade in Shriners parade on Saturday
May 6 2023 at 10 A.M declare deny a
[1:02:07] public purpose do I hear a motion I'm
going to make a motion that we accept a
[1:02:12] sponsorship check from Parker Brothers
Roofing Company in the amount of
[1:02:16] 670.94 for the annual Armed Forces Day
and Shriners parade
[1:02:21] declare a public purpose
second
[1:02:27] we have a motion and a second is there
any discussion take the vote councilman
[1:02:31] Gandy
aye councilman Dean aye councilman Finch
[1:02:35] councilman Brown
aye mayor votes I the motion carries uh
[1:02:40] let's item number nine
[1:02:44] donation by Walmart of seed packets on
behalf of the park and beautification
[1:02:48] committee discussion consideration
possible acts to accept or decline a
[1:02:52] donation of seed packets
in the monetary amount of two thousand
[1:02:57] dollars from Walmart located at 5401
Tinker diagonal Street Del City Oklahoma
[1:03:02] this donation will be used in the
bi-annual seed chairs Armed Forces Day
[1:03:07] Parade flower beds and Community Gardens
declare or deny a public purpose
[1:03:13] do I hear a motion I'll make a motion to
accept as written and declare it a
[1:03:19] public purpose so that there is a flower
on every corner of Del City
[1:03:24] second
[1:03:27] would you take it as a compliment if I
said you were a CD person
[1:03:32] laughs
I mean that in the best possible way
[1:03:38] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[1:03:41] take the vote councilman Finch
aye councilman Dean aye councilman Brown
[1:03:46] aye councilman Gandy aye their votes eye
the motion carries item number 10 is
[1:03:51] monthly update from the chief of police
discussion consideration possible action
[1:03:56] to approved receiving a monthly update
from the chief of police do I hear a
[1:04:00] motion
I make a motion that we have a monthly
[1:04:05] update from the chief of police
second
[1:04:11] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[1:04:15] take the vote councilman Brown
aye councilman Gandy aye councilman Dean
[1:04:21] councilman Finch aye mayor votes hi the
motion carries Chief burger what do you
[1:04:26] got for us are you enjoying those new
pickups
[1:04:31] absolutely wonderful good I picked up
two more today up at the Outfitters so
[1:04:36] they're just finishing up on the last
two and they'll all be on the streets
[1:04:40] here very shortly they look good they
look sharp out there
[1:04:44] we've had a very busy month we started
off and done some in-service training
[1:04:49] here we've done our semi-annual pistol
shotgun qualifications
[1:04:53] we've done some Led T training for the
drivers training we actually got some of
[1:04:57] those trucks out there and see how they
performed and got the guys are going to
[1:05:00] be driving some of those trucks out
there sometime on the trucks because
[1:05:03] they do handle quite differently than
the sedans they've been driving or the
[1:05:07] SUVs so that was much needed for those
two
[1:05:12] uh
I know you mentioned the rose State
[1:05:15] earlier thank you for that that was
pretty trying time
[1:05:19] it was City got flooded with 9-1-1 calls
when that incident happened and they
[1:05:24] rolled over to us so we knew right away
with the 911 coming in what was going on
[1:05:29] sent officers over there to assist them
once things calmed down a little bit we
[1:05:35] were able to help them and go through
some of the buildings there on the
[1:05:37] campus and secure and make sure
everything was clear on those so
[1:05:41] we'll reach out to them any kind any
time we can on that
[1:05:46] uh flock cameras if you haven't noticed
they're starting to go up around the
[1:05:50] city we'll still lack about four of them
they sent me a notice this morning
[1:05:53] they're looking at site surveys on the
last four
[1:05:57] but we've got the other uh we've been
getting quite a big uh
[1:06:02] response out of them and we've had
several good recoveries out of them from
[1:06:07] stolen vehicles wanted people
without too much detail we had one here
[1:06:12] a couple weeks ago that was an Uber
driver was
[1:06:16] robbed at knifepoint and Kansas I
believe it was oh good I was going to
[1:06:21] say not Dale City no I thinking stole
the car and that and ended up here in
[1:06:26] Del City
so
[1:06:29] they didn't come here to go to church
but we were able to get them off the
[1:06:34] street and recovered and get the
property back very good and we've had
[1:06:37] some others just recently with stolen
cars and property returns it's a pretty
[1:06:42] quick hit on these returns so the
officers are jumping right on so working
[1:06:48] very good
we put our
[1:06:51] the flock transparency portal is on our
website service now if you go to the Del
[1:06:55] City page the police department page on
the online services you can see the
[1:07:01] transparency portal for flock and that
says exactly what we do with it and what
[1:07:06] we record and how long it's recorded and
what it's used for so just to be
[1:07:10] transparent with public on that
[1:07:13] I met with the Commander in charge of
the OSI operations office of special
[1:07:18] investigations at Tinker just to build
that relationship to work with them make
[1:07:23] sure that we can work with them in any
conjunction I show them our flock
[1:07:27] cameras have them access to our block
cameras too because they do a lot of
[1:07:30] search for like AWOL people and stuff in
the military and other investigations
[1:07:34] and we want to be a part of that where
we can help them out too
[1:07:38] Metrotech is having their graduation
from the cleat
[1:07:42] Basic Police Academy this Friday and I
have one graduating in that we had two
[1:07:47] in the academy one actually got hurt
here about two weeks ago during the
[1:07:50] defensive tactics so once he recovers
we'll get him back and finished up in
[1:07:55] that program but we do have one Zachary
Hong who will be graduating this coming
[1:08:00] Friday looking forward to getting him
out there and on the street
[1:08:04] we're all set and ready to go on the
parade there's been a lot of work on
[1:08:07] that Brittany and everybody involved in
cities that put a lot of hours into that
[1:08:11] and we're hoping for a very successful
and safe parade for everybody
[1:08:18] I have the department policies that you
know we've been working on for a long
[1:08:22] time I finally made those public they're
on our website also if you go to the
[1:08:27] police department page and you go down
to the department forums and links if
[1:08:31] there's a tab up there at the top of
that you can go down to the bottom of
[1:08:34] that page click on it and you have
access as the public to any of our
[1:08:38] department policies if you want to know
what the department policy is on a
[1:08:41] specific item there it is for you to
look at so it's a big move for us to do
[1:08:47] that
[1:08:52] that's all I got
answer any questions
[1:08:55] did I miss um where are we at with the
with the body cameras and did I miss
[1:09:00] that part nope nope
body cameras we have them all in we have
[1:09:06] logged them on and got them onto the
server and everything as of today we
[1:09:10] have training set up for them on the
12th
[1:09:13] officers have been doing on some online
training right now going looking at some
[1:09:17] videos and training and then we will
have actual online uh training on them
[1:09:21] on the 12th of this month on the 13th
will be the first day that they're on
[1:09:25] the streets and recording
so looking forward to that excellent
[1:09:30] you can say no to this but would you
just address the Southeast 44th CVS
[1:09:36] issue that was on
social media if you can say anything
[1:09:40] just to put sure hearts and ease on that
sure
[1:09:43] um that came up on social media real
fast
[1:09:46] and if you didn't see it there's a short
video that a citizen took of a
[1:09:52] male subject
and more of a stocking mask and carrying
[1:09:55] what looked to be a weapon rifle
and headed toward the front of the CVS
[1:10:00] he never made it into the CVS he was in
the parking lot he actually started
[1:10:06] south of 44th in Oklahoma City
pointing it whatever he was doing over
[1:10:11] there Oklahoma City Police got the call
originally
[1:10:15] they responded then we started getting
calls and and reports of it
[1:10:20] our officers arrived just about the time
Oklahoma City was taking him into
[1:10:24] custody it was male subject that had a
lot of mental health problems it was not
[1:10:29] a real gun it was an airsoft gun he
never made it in to our CVS he was only
[1:10:35] in our section a very short time before
he went back across the street where
[1:10:38] Oklahoma City and County but he was
taken in custody for mental health
[1:10:42] issues
thank you
[1:10:45] all right I've tried to offend some of
the social media to put some of the
[1:10:50] aspects of it and of course I got
grammar check today so I had to go back
[1:10:54] in and correct my grammar but it's
always good that the citizens know the
[1:11:00] details especially in situations like
that because one guy was saying oh it
[1:11:03] was AK-47 she's like okay no it wasn't
no no airsoft gun it looked real from
[1:11:10] what I saw in this short video it looked
real
[1:11:12] and I'm very thankful that nothing
serious happened out of it so just
[1:11:17] thankful that the guy wasn't shot yes
very much those usually have orange tips
[1:11:22] don't they had he doctored that or
covered that I don't I didn't get a
[1:11:25] close look at it I couldn't tell you
just from the short blip I saw on the
[1:11:29] video I would have thought it was real
yeah so okay very good
[1:11:35] thank you Chief you bet
[1:11:39] let's move on to item number 11 FEMA
Center for domestic preparedness
[1:11:43] training out-of-state travel training
for two police officers
[1:11:48] discussion consideration possible acts
to approve or deny the out-of-state
[1:11:52] travel and training for two police
officers Lieutenant Kyle Preston and
[1:11:56] officer Brandon eckleberry to attend the
FEMA Center for domestic preparedness
[1:12:01] training FEMA will pay for the
coursework airfare ground transportation
[1:12:06] lodging and meals for the duration of
the training do you want to hear a
[1:12:11] motion make a motion that we approve the
travel and training as written
[1:12:17] second
[1:12:20] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[1:12:24] they're going to feed Kyle Preston
[1:12:31] I'll be bringing more of this to you in
the future I recently
[1:12:36] started a ERT team Emergency Response
Team this is a difference a lot of
[1:12:41] people think SWAT and tactical that's
not this that's not my purpose with this
[1:12:45] an ERT team would be going to natural
disasters
[1:12:51] we've got another places
[1:12:56] uh searches like that that's what this
team is designed to do no crowd control
[1:13:02] if we were to have a crowd control issue
uh searching for people going to the
[1:13:07] tornado scenes whatever that's what
these guys are going to be training to
[1:13:10] do so this is a great program and
actually Tracy Powell with our human
[1:13:14] resources turned me on to this and it's
a place down there in Alabama it's
[1:13:18] Federal Center and they offer all kinds
of training like this and we have a
[1:13:23] seven-man team for the ERT and I want to
get them all through very similar
[1:13:27] training and there's a lot more
Swiftwater training that's local that I
[1:13:31] can get to the quick North Fire Chief
and also with Oklahoma City on that but
[1:13:36] there's there's several different areas
that I want to go with this team and
[1:13:39] it's just kind of an idea where I'm
headed I love it very good
[1:13:46] we have a motion and a second any
further discussion
[1:13:50] take the vote councilman Dean aye
councilman Gandy aye councilman Brown
[1:13:55] aye councilman Finch
mayor votes on the motion carries item
[1:13:59] number 12 is Surplus items discussion
consideration possible action to declare
[1:14:04] deny the items listed in exhibit B to
the council agenda as a surplus to the
[1:14:09] city's needs authorized final
disposition of these items as approved
[1:14:13] by the acting city manager do you want
to hear a motion make a motion we
[1:14:18] declare the items in exhibit B
on the council agenda Surplus to the
[1:14:23] city's needs authorized final
disposition of these items as approved
[1:14:27] by the city manager second
[1:14:33] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion I got a question is there
[1:14:37] a way a lot of this stuff seemed like it
was
[1:14:40] trash or small things or things less
than like a hundred dollars or fifty
[1:14:45] dollars is there any way can you guys
throw away anything or are we limited to
[1:14:49] uh
to a couple of rules on that if there is
[1:14:53] electricity running through it you have
to approve it and if it has a tag on it
[1:14:58] anytime for example if in the previous
25 years someone inventory to pencil
[1:15:02] once it hit in inventory it's got to
leave inventory in or out so now we have
[1:15:07] taken it to where if there are
negligible things under fifty dollars is
[1:15:10] our is our threshold those won't come
back on here but these are all things
[1:15:14] that are ancient in nature so because
they've had an asset tag on them from
[1:15:18] years and years ago we have to list it
officially
[1:15:22] okay
any further discussion
[1:15:26] take the vote councilman Gandy
councilman Finch aye councilman Dean
[1:15:31] councilman Brown
aye mayor votes aye the motion carries
[1:15:34] item number 13 is mutual cooperation
agreement with Oklahoma County Bryant
[1:15:39] Avenue resurfacing discussion
consideration possible action to approve
[1:15:44] approved with modifications or deny
Street repairs to be completed by
[1:15:48] Oklahoma County for the Reconstruction
of Bryant Avenue from Southeast 29th
[1:15:53] Street to Southeast 44th Street
the project will be a rebuild of the
[1:15:58] asphalt road in the amount of 145
858 dollars authorized mayor to endorse
[1:16:06] same direct staff accordingly do I hear
a motion
[1:16:11] and commotion that we approve
repairs to be completed by Oklahoma
[1:16:15] County for the Reconstruction of Bryan
Avenue from Southeast 29 to Southeast
[1:16:19] 44th Street
the project will be a rebuild of the
[1:16:23] asphalt road in the amount of 145 858
authorized Mary to endorse same tricks
[1:16:29] staff accordingly
[1:16:33] second
[1:16:37] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[1:16:40] take the vote councilman Dean councilman
Brown
[1:16:45] aye councilman
Connell Gandy
[1:16:50] aye
councilman Finch hi it's like naming
[1:16:54] your kids you know you have to go
through the whole role sorry mayor votes
[1:16:58] eye the motion carries
[1:17:07] move on to item number 14 Labor Max
Staffing temporary seasonal employees
[1:17:13] discussion consideration possible action
approve approved with modifications or
[1:17:17] deny a contract with LaborMax Staffing
to provide temporary seasonal employees
[1:17:22] for fiscal year
2023-2024 authorized mayor to endorse
[1:17:27] same direct staff accordingly Public
Works will utilize the seasonal
[1:17:32] employees for general labor in the parks
department do I hear a motion
[1:17:37] I'll make a motion to approve temporary
seasonal employees for fiscal year 2023
[1:17:43] 2024 of the right smear to endorse they
direct staff accordingly second
[1:17:52] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[1:17:56] take to vote councilman Finch
aye councilman Gandy
[1:18:00] aye councilman Brown
aye councilman Dean aye mayor votes I
[1:18:04] the motion carries skip on down to item
number 16 preparation of annual
[1:18:09] financial statements for physical year
2023.
[1:18:14] discussion consideration possible acts
to approve approved with modifications
[1:18:18] or deny engaging Crawford and Associates
PCS CPA an accounting firm specializing
[1:18:25] in serving governmental entities to
prepare the annual financial statements
[1:18:30] for fiscal year ending June 30 2023 not
to exceed forty two thousand dollars
[1:18:35] authorized mayor to endorse same direct
staff accordingly do I hear a motion
[1:18:43] make a motion that we approve
engage in Crawford and Associates PCA
[1:18:47] CPA and accounting firm
special specializing in serving
[1:18:54] governmental entities to prepare the
annual financial statements for physical
[1:18:57] year ending June 30th 2023 not to exceed
forty two thousand dollars authorized
[1:19:03] murder endorse same direct staff corn
link
[1:19:06] second
[1:19:09] we have a motion and a second is there
any discussion
[1:19:13] take the vote councilman Dean councilman
Gandy councilman Brown
[1:19:18] aye councilman Finch aye mayor of Oaks
aye the motion carries before we get
[1:19:22] into item number 17 I will entertain a
motion to adjourn the council
[1:19:28] a recess the council meeting and moved
to the
[1:19:34] Dale City municipal Services Authority
make a motion we recess to dcmsa
[1:19:40] second
[1:19:45] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[1:19:49] take the vote councilman Gandy aye
councilman Brown
[1:19:54] aye councilman Finch councilman Dean aye
mayor votes I we are now recessed to the
[1:20:00] Del City municipal Services Authority
Melissa would you call the roll please
[1:20:07] trustee Gandy here trustee Brown
here trustee Finch or trustee Dean in
[1:20:15] chairman Eason chairman is here
is there any public input on non-agenda
[1:20:20] items is there anybody that like to
speak to the dcmsa
[1:20:24] on non-agenda items see none any
trustees have anything
[1:20:30] seeing none move on to the manager's
report item four
[1:20:35] item five is a consent docket this
discussion consideration possible action
[1:20:39] approved the following items by
unanimous consent with one motion item a
[1:20:43] is minutes of April 17 2023 regular
meeting of DC MSA prove the minutes of
[1:20:49] the regular meeting of DC MSA of April
17 2023.
[1:20:54] Item B is a budget amendment approved
the budget amendment for fiscal year
[1:20:59] 2022-2023 as shown in exhibit a to the
DC MSA agenda do I hear a motion make a
[1:21:05] motion we approve items A and B as
written
[1:21:09] second
[1:21:13] I want my button checked
[1:21:18] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion take the vote trustee
[1:21:22] Gandy aye trustee Finch aye trustee Dean
trustee Brown
[1:21:28] aye chair votes I the motion carries
move on to item number six invitation to
[1:21:33] bid number zero two one seven Advanced
metering infrastructure Ami water meters
[1:21:39] we'll take these separate we'll do item
a first public hearing discussion
[1:21:44] consideration possible accident approve
or deny holding a public hearing
[1:21:48] regarding
itb0217 Advanced metering infrastructure
[1:21:54] water meters for electronic water meters
and readers for the city to improve the
[1:21:59] accuracy of the consumption of water do
I hear a motion I make a motion that we
[1:22:05] hold a public hearing regarding
itv0217 Advance metering infrastructure
[1:22:11] water meters for electronic water meters
and readers for the city to improve the
[1:22:16] accuracy of the consumption of water
requested by Public Works uh director
[1:22:23] Mike Hatfield
second
[1:22:29] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[1:22:33] take the vote
trustee Brown
[1:22:37] aye trustee Finch aye trustee Dean aye
trustee Gandy aye the chairman votes I
[1:22:43] the public hearing portion is now open
who is going to present this Mike are
[1:22:49] you presenting or is it
crazy Hatfield has got your name on it
[1:22:54] yeah
[1:23:02] say that again Bruce
beaver
[1:23:10] okay and Mr Dan Hardin with IUS
[1:23:15] okay
they can answer the very technical
[1:23:19] questions
before we get technical if you can just
[1:23:22] give us an overview of why we're doing
this as a city and then I'll go into the
[1:23:26] financial and then we can go into
specifics all right
[1:23:29] um
this is bringing our
[1:23:32] older meters up to current standards
[1:23:38] we have some possibly some meters dating
back to the 60s if that's where I was
[1:23:43] going we haven't been quite old only a
few in the 60s but we have some in the
[1:23:47] 70s but as they're like a car they wear
out so this will bring them up to new
[1:23:52] standards the newer meters we're looking
at are non-moving parks so they do not
[1:23:57] wear out like the current ones we have
these are also automated readers
[1:24:03] or leader excuse me that
um basically they will send a signal
[1:24:08] back to Seattle City Hall and they
actually will get a read in hourly or
[1:24:15] it'll tell you basically how many
gallons you use every hour
[1:24:20] so we can be able to see people that
have leaks and know when they have to
[1:24:24] leak you can you can set an alarm
spike in usage at a house if a person's
[1:24:31] water pipe freezes and bursts we'll be
able to monitor that there's a customer
[1:24:37] portal that comes along with this to
where each homeowner can either set
[1:24:41] alarms for so much use or different
parameters they can set for so much
[1:24:47] usage
or fast usage I believe there's a lot of
[1:24:52] different aspects that
will be really nice to have
[1:24:57] another Advantage is instead of having
four meter readers out there we can
[1:25:02] reassign three of them to say Parks and
Rec and just have one meter reader
[1:25:08] and we'll be getting the accurate
readings not dependent on the guy going
[1:25:13] out and having to move a brush pile to
find the meter to dig in and get it so
[1:25:18] that's a tremendous advantage in the
Savings in Manpower
[1:25:22] love to have these during the ice storm
plus the accuracy that's a big factor
[1:25:29] for the city because we're we're
experiencing a lot more water is going
[1:25:33] out than is being accounted for all
right
[1:25:36] do you know how many other cities use
this
[1:25:45] I mean these are
worldwide it's not a
[1:25:50] I mean there's different companies
different configurations but
[1:25:55] uh
be similar across the board this new
[1:26:00] okay this is a 20-year program is that
right
[1:26:05] the
[1:26:08] um
that's the goal is to have them now
[1:26:13] they're going to be able to explain this
more honey
[1:26:18] let's go ahead and bring them up
[1:26:26] okay
[1:26:29] who's going to go first Dan or Bruce
[1:26:36] okay
you hello uh my name is Dan Hardin I'm
[1:26:39] the president of innovative utility
Solutions so yeah feel free to ask any
[1:26:43] questions I know Craig had sent us three
questions originally before this meeting
[1:26:48] I'll go ahead and address those one of
the questions was what happens when this
[1:26:52] goes from since it is a cellular based
technology the radio information what
[1:26:56] happens when it goes from 4G to 5G to 6G
to 7g is it out of commission the answer
[1:27:01] to that is no the only thing that
changes as we're upgrading to the
[1:27:05] generational networks is with your cell
phones this operates on a network called
[1:27:09] cat M1 which is a lower level of
cellular technology
[1:27:14] um so it's the same that police fire and
military use it's a much lower level
[1:27:18] because all we're sending is little bits
of data so it could go to 20g 30g it
[1:27:22] doesn't matter this will stay the same
okay
[1:27:24] um so it's completely different than the
typical ones you would use for your cell
[1:27:27] phone so so we have no anticipation of
that ever going away it's actually the
[1:27:30] same technology they're using on the
little scooters that you see in downtown
[1:27:34] areas dog collars little bits of
information so that will stay standard
[1:27:39] for the next 20 to 30 years okay the
next question was in regards to any
[1:27:44] Legacy costs so I wasn't really sure
what you guys were asking as far as
[1:27:48] Legacy costs but the way
we bid this is a complete 20-year
[1:27:52] package so the way smarter Technologies
does their pricing is they go out into
[1:27:58] the cellular market and they buy the
data in bulk and so we get a huge
[1:28:02] discount on buying all this data so we
can price you a 20-year system without
[1:28:07] any additional cost for the next 20
years so we're buying all that data all
[1:28:11] the software hosting everything in bulk
so that way there's no additional cost
[1:28:16] for the system the way we fit it which
includes integration into your billing
[1:28:20] software and the consumer portal
the only other additional cost that may
[1:28:24] arise is if you ever wanted us to take
our software and integrate it into a GIS
[1:28:29] software or a work order software any
additional
[1:28:33] software Integrations that would be a
separate price which we would discuss
[1:28:36] beforehand
so the Legacy question was when we get
[1:28:40] your meters that are you know 4.5 is the
version and you come out with 6.0 7.0
[1:28:45] 8.5 you're not going to have to send us
a a fee because now your seven
[1:28:50] generations ahead and we're still on the
same 20-year plan right so no there will
[1:28:55] not that includes all additional
upgrades and features that come with it
[1:28:59] for the next 20 years
our endpoints are 2A connectivity so we
[1:29:05] can actually send over the
over there to them so if a new feature
[1:29:09] comes out we can set another
upgrade back at
[1:29:13] silver the next
any upgrades
[1:29:16] will absolutely be
yeah very similar to your cell phone
[1:29:19] when you get apple that sends you hey
you have an update same thing except we
[1:29:23] just push it out to the whole system
automatically they slow down our meter
[1:29:27] yeah
[1:29:30] you start using them too much we're
going to slow them down
[1:29:35] so this includes all the hardware
software it's a turnkey project TurnKey
[1:29:39] project installation and everything you
guys go out and install them
[1:29:45] thank you yes but we will have a crew
come out they'll
[1:29:50] uh manage the project as well as I'll
manage the project as well go out do the
[1:29:53] installation test the network
um the smarter people will be on site
[1:29:57] quite frequently working with the
billing software to make sure that
[1:30:00] integrates uh so yeah it's it's a very
drawn out process so we've made sure we
[1:30:04] accomplish every step along the way one
of the questions I had also is to make
[1:30:08] sure that you guys will be on hand and
available not for just a short term for
[1:30:14] like a year excuse me but you guys would
be available without any extra fees for
[1:30:20] customer service for any questions for
billing issues you guys would be pretty
[1:30:25] handy and would you guys be direct or
are we calling a 1-800 number
[1:30:29] um all of it yeah
[1:30:42] [Music]
[1:30:46] Dance Project
every day
[1:30:50] and
[1:31:10] it's like this is built into the project
[1:31:14] yeah so there's multiple levels of
support there's there's IUS support
[1:31:17] there's set support set will have a
project manager that will be assigned to
[1:31:21] you guys and then again we have customer
service people that are in California
[1:31:25] and they're available either via chat
box or an 800 number so there's multiple
[1:31:29] levels of being able to get somebody to
help you and there's no additional
[1:31:32] charge for that for the full 20 years so
um that kind of leads into the third
[1:31:36] question was will we train your meter
technicians on how to maintain the
[1:31:40] system and the answer is yes so not only
will we train the meter technicians uh
[1:31:45] we'll train billing clerks how to do
billing software and integrate
[1:31:48] everything we can do that on-site or via
the web so if you get new meter
[1:31:54] technicians or a new billing Clerk and
they need to be retrained we again can
[1:31:57] come out and do it again at charge we
want the system to work for you guys for
[1:32:02] 20 years because it benefits us as well
to have happy customers to help other
[1:32:06] cities how well the system is working so
yes all of that is included in the
[1:32:09] 20-year class so I assume this has some
sort of battery in the system correct
[1:32:13] and what's the estimated lifespan of
that battery so what happens in the
[1:32:18] event the battery goes out before we get
to it to change it okay so if the
[1:32:23] battery on the radio goes out these are
the 10 and 10 or 15. they are the 10 and
[1:32:28] 10. so it is a 10-year full replacement
warranty and then we warranty the
[1:32:31] remaining 10 years at a prorated rate so
for example if they go bad at year 18
[1:32:36] there'll be a small cost just to replace
the entire radio
[1:32:40] but the nice thing is within the
software it tells you the battery life
[1:32:43] of every unit in the system so it's not
like at year 17 they're all just going
[1:32:48] to go kaput and you're right but what's
the projected life of just say a genetic
[1:32:52] a generic meter what do you expect how
much life expectancy you one thing
[1:33:04] one other thing that the the meter and
the endpoint are not running off a
[1:33:07] battery what the battery does is it has
a capacitor that it trickle cell charges
[1:33:11] over 20 years so when our smartphones
and things like that our electronic
[1:33:15] devices die it's from the constant on
off and that hitting of the battery
[1:33:19] every time so the capacitor just
trickles the battery trickle cell
[1:33:22] charges that capacitor so the capacitor
is what takes a hit so that's how these
[1:33:26] batteries could last 20 years okay I
understand so we expect 16 to 22 years
[1:33:31] depending on the how often we're cycling
it and again
[1:33:35] and again pull these radios more than
twice a day to cause the battery life to
[1:33:39] go down but standard is twice a day so
so what happens when it does die does
[1:33:44] the water shut off is the customer out
of water or it just stops reading nope
[1:33:49] so two separate units so the water meter
will continue to flow of the water the
[1:33:53] radio just pulls that reading every hour
and then twice a day you'll send that
[1:33:57] information back to the utility if the
battery in the Radio dies the meter will
[1:34:00] still keep rating water so that that
data will still be there it'll still be
[1:34:04] there so once you go out and hook up a
new radio or restart the radio whatever
[1:34:09] so you're not going to lose any water
Revenue okay
[1:34:15] you have a 10 and 10 warranty on this so
the first 10 years completely no matter
[1:34:18] what happens it gets switched out the
next 10 years is prorated what happens
[1:34:22] though if there's tampering well hold on
the one thing that we won't warranty is
[1:34:25] a mower hits it that's not
something yeah once you know that got it
[1:34:28] everybody says no
[1:34:32] so what happens if there's tampering
what would happen then so if you're
[1:34:36] saying like if a homeowner tampers with
it so if a homeowner goes out and
[1:34:39] disconnects it you'll get an alarm
saying disconnect so you'll know
[1:34:42] immediately you guys can go out and fix
it again there's nothing really the
[1:34:45] homeowner can do that can tamper with it
that would cause the battery to decrease
[1:34:49] so yeah really lawn mowers destroying it
they'll go out there and cut the wire
[1:34:53] thinking they're getting away with
something but the nice thing is once you
[1:34:56] hook it up again it catches right back
up to the meter so you haven't lost if
[1:34:59] someone decided to to get into one of
the boxes and I'm assuming the the radio
[1:35:04] is attached to the lid to the meter yes
okay and so if someone decides to remove
[1:35:08] that and they just keep pulling not
realizing that maybe there's a wire is
[1:35:11] there a quick disconnect or is this
something okay so it's something that'll
[1:35:14] break away it's not going to destroy
anything someone can come back and plug
[1:35:18] it in easily so you're you're talking
about an antenna you're not talking
[1:35:22] about anything that sticks up above the
meter cover no it'll it'll be flush
[1:35:26] flush in the meter cover so yeah it just
sticks perfectly flat the only ones that
[1:35:31] won't will be raised a little bit of
course the metal Lids they'll be raised
[1:35:34] about a quarter of an inch
so it'll still sit on the lid but it'll
[1:35:38] be up about a quarter of an inch if I'm
not mistake it's probably what about
[1:35:41] four or five inches in diameter if you
drive through Midwest City you'll see
[1:35:45] them sitting on top of theirs yeah it
looks like a little mushroom and what we
[1:35:48] do is we drill a hole in your lid and
then it sits flush so again they're Ada
[1:35:52] approved so wheelchairs can roll over on
there okay yeah so it's not going to
[1:35:56] cause any issues but again sometimes
somebody will hear the lawnmower or an
[1:35:59] aerator those are not aerator proof
there's the cost of a battery
[1:36:11] what kind of cost is with that with that
part again so it's prorated so what we
[1:36:15] do is we take the price of whatever you
guys paid for it and let's say it goes
[1:36:19] out in year 11 you would pay 10 percent
of that price to get a brand new unit
[1:36:22] and then if it's like year 18 it would
be if I forget the exact breakdown but
[1:36:27] yeah 90 or so no yeah so so what is the
unit cost uh right it's it's 10 of what
[1:36:35] a unit price that we've been what is a
unit price
[1:36:39] it was in there so we're talking like
the 5 8 the like the normal the normal
[1:36:45] the
[1:36:48] if you take the 8400 divided by the 3.99
it's 3 452 dollars and some change for a
[1:36:56] unit per year
you can almost
[1:37:03] 52 instance 452
[1:37:08] 26. yeah and I believe in the bid okay
did you guys ask for the breakdown yeah
[1:37:14] we have a breakdown yeah so it would be
in there okay so so the 5 8 has a unit
[1:37:19] cost of 131 well that's the meat that's
the meter you'd have to find a pinpoint
[1:37:23] or transmitter so then the end point is
253 so yeah so 253 so year 11 it would
[1:37:29] be 25.30
and uh
[1:37:33] okay so at year 21
so so 21 you know your obligations end
[1:37:41] and so the battery goes dead there we
just have to replace the end point so so
[1:37:48] that part
the meter should still be good until we
[1:37:53] decided how long do you think the actual
meter part same thing so the meter has a
[1:37:57] battery as well that has a 15-year
warranty then it has a field replaceable
[1:38:02] battery that is that is ten dollars so
at year 16 17 18 whenever that battery
[1:38:05] goes dead you can get a unit replace the
battery and you're up and running for
[1:38:09] another
picture and so how about that battery
[1:38:12] change at your 15 or so
what what's what happens for this
[1:38:16] contract
so again if the battery starts dying
[1:38:20] what what it'll be a sense slope unit is
warranty meters warranty for 15 years
[1:38:25] let's say it uh let's say it dies at
year seven we replace the whole meter if
[1:38:30] it dies after year 15 then you guys
either replace the battery which will
[1:38:34] get it up and running again or we can
replace the hole
[1:38:38] the only thing in the in
the only thing in the meter that can
[1:38:42] literally go bad because they're a
non-moving part meter is the battery so
[1:38:46] at the year 15 now again if the warranty
will be done but if you replace the
[1:38:50] battery you could probably get 15 more
years out of it and keep running and the
[1:38:53] battery's 25 bucks so but again the only
thing that can die in the meter is going
[1:38:58] to be the battery and that was one of
our concerns whenever we first started
[1:39:02] looking at this like eight years ago or
so was that
[1:39:05] uh having the whole city die at your 15
or 20. you know and then having a huge
[1:39:11] cost so the cost of replacing the
batteries is should be minimal minimal
[1:39:17] but another good thing is as Dan said
earlier you know the meters will tell
[1:39:21] you uh by looking at them if you get a
bad battery
[1:39:25] um and then our endpoints will tell you
through the software though so we're
[1:39:29] going to warn you before they die yeah
so you can run a report every single
[1:39:33] year and say hey show me the battery
life of every radio and then you can say
[1:39:36] okay show me the battery life everywhere
it was below 90 below 50 below 30 so
[1:39:41] you'll have far in advance warning as to
when these are going to start dying on
[1:39:46] you you have a recommendation as to when
to replace the battery if we get down to
[1:39:50] should we start replacing them when they
hit 10 is there a is there a quicker
[1:39:54] decline once you hit you know 10 they're
not cool
[1:40:00] lithium ion batteries brain my brain
went blank there for a minute so you
[1:40:04] can't really uh 100 judge lithium ion
battery because they're either on or off
[1:40:08] so my suggestion is if they get below 40
replace it yep and yeah with the meters
[1:40:15] they'll give you a warning they'll
suggest hey battery
[1:40:18] so through year 20 you're going to keep
updating the software and that stuff so
[1:40:24] after year 20 what kind of costs should
we be looking at
[1:40:28] to get the data maintain your system to
maintain the system okay
[1:40:33] um the endpoints won't turn themselves
off so they're guaranteed for 20. but
[1:40:38] they're also the life of the endpoint so
if it makes it to 25 years then you get
[1:40:42] five years worth of quote-unquote free
data so it's the life of the endpoint is
[1:40:47] how the data works so if it makes it to
22 then you've got two years worth of
[1:40:52] free data so what I would suggest is you
know around year 18 you start looking at
[1:40:57] some kind of a change out Program start
looking at the batteries and find out
[1:41:01] like Dan said which ones are below 30 or
40 percent start replacing those
[1:41:05] um so you can kind of do your your
change out gradually versus you know
[1:41:10] trying to do it all at one time
and we're going to have to at after year
[1:41:14] 20 we're going to have to change out the
end point
[1:41:19] at so but that's a that's a used part
that's going to have to right correct
[1:41:24] yeah or a consumable consumer and then
and then a battery for the meter
[1:41:29] and hopefully the communicator would
keep working or uh or the midpoint is
[1:41:34] the communicator the end point is to
communicate great we don't have any
[1:41:36] infrastructure because we're operating
on the infrastructure already put up by
[1:41:39] the cellular networks so the beautiful
thing is you don't have to go out and
[1:41:43] maintain any of that okay so we've done
that because that's a good point which
[1:41:46] for Miss Brown is and the rest of you
guys is you know been to a city had a
[1:41:50] problem where they had to go put the
whole infrastructure in and then it
[1:41:53] didn't quite reach everybody so I mean
this is beautiful on this yeah
[1:42:03] these Ami systems and a metering system
s most utilities replace them every 10
[1:42:08] to 15 years just full 3.7 million every
10 to 15 years but that's why I
[1:42:13] partnered with set and Center because
they have the longest warranties and
[1:42:17] kind of the best technology so we can
stretch those out to 15 to 25 years
[1:42:21] versus every 10 years you're spending
three or four million dollars so let's
[1:42:26] talk about the billing procedures for
some reason we have trouble keeping our
[1:42:30] billing cycle in sync with the meter
reading
[1:42:33] [Music]
um
[1:42:35] we tend to slip behind is this going to
improve our billing procedures will we
[1:42:40] be able to get the billing caught back
up and out on time Britney is shaking
[1:42:45] her head yes yes yes so what what
happens is we're going to be playing
[1:42:49] ketchup
you know
[1:42:54] okay so what happens is the radio is
going to read the meter every hour twice
[1:42:59] a day it's going to send the information
back so what billing will do is whenever
[1:43:03] it's time to Bill a certain route
there's just a button they push that
[1:43:06] says export to billing and it takes it
take current read that the system has
[1:43:10] and drops it in the building let me ask
you a question right now we send the
[1:43:14] billing out to a third party is that
correct
[1:43:17] so will this eliminate the need for the
third party will this be able to do the
[1:43:21] billing
[1:43:30] purposes
[1:44:04] becomes instantaneous
[1:44:11] good so we'll be we'll get caught up
all right okay so on the data so
[1:44:21] how does it so it's it is free to to get
it from
[1:44:26] you know the seller data coming in and
then actually putting it into that
[1:44:30] software
so after year 20 you know to put it into
[1:44:34] the software is that just part of the in
the end point
[1:44:39] is gets it into that gets it into the
software or is there somebody who you
[1:44:43] know is there some company that you know
is going to charge us you know a
[1:44:46] percentage so it'll stay it'll stay with
us and Bruce correct me if yeah they
[1:44:50] answered that scene you could have two
years of free debt if you went 22 years
[1:44:53] then you get the last two years three so
what happens so the dealer goes to the
[1:44:57] cell unit and then ATT or us other
Whoever has it sends it to Amazon web
[1:45:01] services Amazon web services sends it to
set and then set says oh this this data
[1:45:07] belongs to Del City and it goes into the
software even after the 20 years we're
[1:45:10] still going to do that process because
we've paid for that until the end of the
[1:45:13] life of the radio so once the Radio dies
then we say okay do you guys want to
[1:45:18] re-up and start over again with another
20 or do you want to do you know
[1:45:21] something like that but the whole
process of reader reading the meter to
[1:45:25] the radio to Cellular to software to
your software is all
[1:45:28] so that that leads to a
so the data is connected to the each
[1:45:34] radio or each endpoint right so say at
five years we have a radio go out
[1:45:40] do we now have we've we've used up five
years of that data do we just have 15
[1:45:44] years of data or is that
is the date you get you get what I'm
[1:45:48] saying so does it restart if it's
connected to that radio sort of like I
[1:45:51] got my SIM card right and my it's
connected to that device right
[1:45:56] so it would be the 15 years yeah so if
it dies in year five let's say let's say
[1:46:00] it just goes out you've already paid for
the 20 years of data so what we do is we
[1:46:04] give you a new radio that has 15 years
gotcha okay so you're typically with
[1:46:08] that one you'd probably easily get to 25
yes okay now you have that accurate
[1:46:12] perfect and paying for that data like I
said 25 or 28 years if you happen to
[1:46:17] make it there you'd still have it going
yeah we don't come back and say well you
[1:46:20] hit your 20 and that's cool okay time
for the yeah we're rolling along we just
[1:46:24] keep rolling along yep exactly very good
[1:46:31] shut off tomorrow right okay so the next
question is is if you guys go you know
[1:46:37] if you guys go out of business or
whatever else is this simple enough
[1:46:42] technology to where somebody else would
hopefully buy buy you guys up and be
[1:46:45] able to take over yes yes very much so
in fact a lot of the bigger Ami
[1:46:50] companies are now starting to jump into
cellular uh set was one of the first
[1:46:54] companies to do it they're owned by a
large private Equity Firm and a publicly
[1:46:58] traded company so if anything were to
get towards bankruptcy there would be
[1:47:02] other multiple companies that would
happen to just eat them up and
[1:47:06] in fact I've been with two companies
that that has happened to over the past
[1:47:09] 20 years where Amco being one of them
data magic being a second one where they
[1:47:13] just could not function they could not
work and and bigger companies came in
[1:47:17] scooped them up and maintained their
customers
[1:47:20] and like one other thing is you know we
are a debt-free company so we're not
[1:47:24] looking at any of that you know backed
by Cresco net who is about about three
[1:47:28] billion dollars a year in sales
as earlier you guys had Oklahoma Natural
[1:47:33] Gas in here you know we do water right
now in about two months we'll have gas
[1:47:37] out on the market so we'll do gas as
well and then about a year from now
[1:47:41] we'll do electric as well so we're
building and growing towards the future
[1:47:44] there's no I don't see any chance of us
going anywhere I mean they just dropped
[1:47:49] two million dollars into gas
r d and we're probably going to be
[1:47:55] double that into electric r d
awesome so when you all do start the uh
[1:48:02] conversion or whatever we're going to
call this whenever the project starts
[1:48:05] the biggest thing that I have for this
is we need to make sure anyone that you
[1:48:09] have out there is easily visible and
easily identifiable So shirts vests
[1:48:15] something that lets people know who they
are we've had companies that come in the
[1:48:19] past that literally folks are in shorts
and t-shirts out there working with no
[1:48:22] visible anything please make sure that's
taken care of because we will stop we
[1:48:26] will ask questions yeah and we're going
to have a kickoff meeting where we want
[1:48:30] to address all of that what do you
require of our installers where we kick
[1:48:34] off you know Building Company everything
where we go through step by step but yes
[1:48:37] our installers will have vests we'll
have badges all of them will have
[1:48:41] business cards with phone numbers to
contact anybody at the city they want or
[1:48:45] anybody you know contact me whoever so
if a homeowner does have questions we
[1:48:49] want the installers to be prepared to
answer any questions and give them the
[1:48:52] right people to reach out to you and
this is sort of the perfect time to stop
[1:48:55] to talk about the communication plan
where were you headed what kind of down
[1:48:59] time are you talking about like say you
come to Pam's house and you start to
[1:49:04] change out her meter what's the down
time she's going to be out of water for
[1:49:07] minutes 30 minutes three minutes three
minutes you can change that out in three
[1:49:12] minutes two nuts you unscrew pull the
meter out you assume that they're not
[1:49:16] frozen in rusted that is true I assume
they're not frozen but these guys yeah
[1:49:22] they're average in you know a couple
hundred meters a day in some of the
[1:49:25] smaller communities that we've already
done so we're not worried about that but
[1:49:29] 30 minutes is probably top end okay but
three to five is pretty normal pretty
[1:49:34] normal and what they do is when they
open up the pit if that meter is running
[1:49:38] stop what they're doing and they go
knock on the door very good we're here
[1:49:43] to change your meter out you might be
out of water for a few minutes do you
[1:49:45] mind okay because the person might be in
the shower yeah they don't just shut it
[1:49:48] off exactly so if it's running they'll
stop they'll go do the neighbor
[1:49:55] Hood okay all right I actually have a
test meter at my house already I had no
[1:49:59] idea I even had a test mirror at my
house until Brittany called me and she
[1:50:05] said
she said how in the world did you go
[1:50:09] through 27 000 gallons and I was like
excuse me
[1:50:13] so
[1:50:16] I hope so yeah
[1:50:24] a really fast amount of time I have
people all the time tell me that
[1:50:27] physically isn't possible and you're
going to do search on AWA and show them
[1:50:31] how much water and it's unbelievable how
much water can go through that or even
[1:50:35] just a leaky toilet that people don't
hear shut off you know the beautiful
[1:50:38] thing about the system is now we're
going to be able to show them that data
[1:50:41] at your fingers yeah at 10 pm you you
started flowing such and such a rate yes
[1:50:47] sir that's very good and and in regards
to communication so every homeowner gets
[1:50:52] their own consumer engagement login so
the software that you see on every
[1:50:56] homeowner account they'll be able to log
in and see that themselves okay so if
[1:51:00] they have 24 hours worth of usage they
will get a leak alarm and then they can
[1:51:04] set that up to tax them or email them
that they have a leak so the idea behind
[1:51:08] that is uh the homeowner will actually
fix their own problem before they call
[1:51:13] you guys because they'll be able to see
all that information and welcome to a
[1:51:17] third party website no it's ours it's
our software is that an extra a
[1:51:21] beautiful thing it's not third party
it's built into our software so the data
[1:51:25] is all live and and connected so when
your customer service team logs in if it
[1:51:30] was third party the data would lag it
might be a 24 hour lag so they won't see
[1:51:34] the same thing the customer service
people we're gonna see the same exact
[1:51:37] data that the people at home are seeing
awesome really are you asking for an
[1:51:40] extra fee from customers for that kind
of communication will there be any extra
[1:51:46] fees for customers for any of those
you're welcome to charge the homeowner
[1:51:51] fee but we don't charge you nope all
right so let's let's transition into
[1:51:58] talking to Brittany here for a second
about communication because that's Pro
[1:52:01] that's a good segue right there you shut
them down right there we're not charging
[1:52:06] fees we're not charging anything extra
on top of so there is a plan we we had
[1:52:11] talked about we've been talking about
these meters for a couple of years now
[1:52:15] and it's on we're right on top of it
you're going to be Community
[1:52:18] communicating with the public tell them
yes so where we're there again we are
[1:52:26] and so but this is going to be great and
I think if we you know I I still stand
[1:52:32] by it where where messed up
[1:52:38] no if right if people understand what's
happening we can get them excited about
[1:52:43] it so Thursday morning at nine
um we have a meeting scheduled with me
[1:52:50] and JD and Melissa Hatfield Craig Bruce
are you coming okay so I'll have them
[1:52:55] too
um Bruce has been phenomenal through
[1:52:59] this whole process he is getting me with
their marketing person that they've used
[1:53:04] when they've rolled out into other
cities so that we don't have to recreate
[1:53:08] the wheel we can kind of use
communication and information that's
[1:53:12] already been used in other cities that
they know works and then you know we'll
[1:53:17] tailor that to our people as well we're
gonna hone in on timelines and you know
[1:53:24] what to expect not to be Doom and Gloom
but this is not going to be pretty at
[1:53:29] first it's not because the sad reality
is just like Craig said we have a lot of
[1:53:33] meters out there that are very old and
what a lot of people don't understand is
[1:53:37] that the whole older the meter gets it
slows down it doesn't speed up it will
[1:53:43] slow down and quit reading accurately so
once we start dropping meters in that
[1:53:47] are reading a hundred percent a lot of
people are going to go I have a leak
[1:53:51] there's no way I actually use this water
well you've been using that water you
[1:53:56] just haven't been paying for it the
whole time so
[1:54:00] of course I will be out there on the
front line I will help all of our
[1:54:04] residents as much as I possibly can we
are going to educate we're going to
[1:54:10] inform we are going to be out there this
time we are not going to do it like we
[1:54:15] did it last time we're going to get it
right this time what can the council do
[1:54:18] to help you with that and are there any
Town Halls scheduled for those kind of
[1:54:26] discussions so that is something that we
will talk about Thursday I I am not
[1:54:32] opposed there's no such thing as too
much communication on something like
[1:54:35] this and they're going to start moving
pretty quick it's my understanding like
[1:54:39] this isn't going to be we're going to
sign a contract and maybe sometime next
[1:54:42] year this is going to start we're going
to be working on a very limited window
[1:54:47] and so we're going to have to be very
specific and very conscious about how we
[1:54:52] communicate to the community we're going
to roll it out in Billing Cycles it's
[1:54:57] not going to be you know everything is
going to be on purpose so once we get
[1:55:03] done with this meeting Thursday we're
not going to leave the room until we
[1:55:07] have a good plan of attack that we are
all comfortable with once we have that
[1:55:12] we will be communicating with all of you
because this is going to be a group
[1:55:15] effort I can't do this by myself JD
can't do it but it's it's going to take
[1:55:19] a village on this put us on your
calendar I'm so excited put us on your
[1:55:24] calendar now for danwa or Delaware
neighborhood watch assist meetings
[1:55:29] please come Ron make sure you get their
info so we can go ahead and tell all of
[1:55:34] ward 3 about it so we're talking about
roll out we're talking like after the
[1:55:38] parade we're talking probably what three
months four months like how
[1:55:44] no let's not go that fast
I'm just kidding give me a little bit of
[1:55:49] time what are we looking out for rolling
this out what's the timeline on this
[1:55:55] yesterday
[1:56:02] yeah 90 days to start and then we have
six months to complete right yeah so
[1:56:08] whatever Dell City
goes faster or slow as you guys
[1:56:11] absolutely okay
[1:56:21] uh
at meters that we're going to find all
[1:56:24] sorts of things I'll just bring
to be honest doing this for 12 years
[1:56:26] I've probably sold 40 Ami jobs we're
going to find meters that probably have
[1:56:30] never been built
we're gonna absolutely all the only time
[1:56:33] that you touch every
so everything that has not happened or
[1:56:38] has been a mistake in the past
so again we're going to go as fast or as
[1:56:43] slow as you guys
but the main thing is we want to get
[1:56:48] and we want to make sure that the
billing
[1:56:51] good as it can be but again we're going
to have hurdles because we're going to
[1:56:55] uncover things
[1:56:59] so so you just you know this is the one
time that we're gonna touch all of our
[1:57:03] meters so uh Craig and Mike and everyone
I
[1:57:09] we should ensure that the line going in
to the meter and the line coming out of
[1:57:14] meter this is ideal for us to not just
make a meter fit and make a meter work
[1:57:19] if there's a problem we see some extra
wear something like that this is the
[1:57:23] time to to fix those things and will you
guys communicate that with us there's
[1:57:28] you know
[1:57:32] you're allowed to take 20 pictures at
every location that gets stored back
[1:57:36] into the software so that's where we'll
sit with you guys to say hey what 20
[1:57:39] pictures or 10 or five you want our
installers to take made it water line in
[1:57:43] water line out old meter new meter
picture of the house I didn't step on
[1:57:47] Mrs Smith's rose garden and they're out
and all of that comes back and it's
[1:57:51] stored in the system correct
so you guys let us know because there's
[1:57:55] a lot of lead pipe
[1:57:59] pipeline so that's why we designed this
system now do we have any lead pipes
[1:58:04] no
thank you
[1:58:09] Thursday yep with Dale City's logo
something that you can use as a mailer
[1:58:14] to start mailing your custom something
you can put on your website I mean again
[1:58:17] like she said earlier there's no such
[1:58:24] thing yeah all right set has a list of
frequently asked questions for the
[1:58:28] homeowners you know a lot of the
questions are going to be with my bill
[1:58:31] go up we can
cut some of the meat or we can do a town
[1:58:34] hall and explain to everybody here's how
it happens the other one that's going to
[1:58:37] surprise you you're going to get a
question will these give me cancer
[1:58:40] instructions we've done the studies
we've done the research in
[1:58:44] yourself
that will be a question
[1:58:47] so the one of the other questions is
this is tied to Federal funding and so
[1:58:52] have you done other cities with this and
completed have you done others and
[1:58:57] completed it so that way you dotted all
the I's and T's and whatever else we
[1:59:00] might need to close out our project yeah
so we
[1:59:06] we uh but with but again just federally
funded to where to where
[1:59:12] we have something they don't always tell
us that so I don't know
[1:59:16] I could answer that for you guys well
they've already been vetted by my
[1:59:19] federal system before we even got to the
awards section
[1:59:23] um yeah we've added you so you don't owe
the IRS money that's the number one
[1:59:28] right
right but the other part is they have to
[1:59:31] hire the right people and I'm sure if
they have to sign that I mean are they
[1:59:35] going to sign anything else besides what
the contract they submitted or do they
[1:59:39] have other requirements and just to make
sure and and also a time period because
[1:59:43] we're running up to time periods and
running out of time on some projects
[1:59:47] right this one is this one is a
different system and no they meet all
[1:59:51] the criteria they've checked all the
boxes and they'll be done within well
[1:59:55] within the time frame of this
requirement
[1:59:57] all right do we have a plan to where
we're going to start with the meters are
[2:00:01] we going to do one word at a time are we
going to start north of the city or
[2:00:04] south
[2:00:08] well that's that's what we're talking
about that way
[2:00:12] um you don't
the last thing we want is for half of a
[2:00:16] cycle to be billed on the new meters and
have to be built on the old meter so
[2:00:20] we'll take it a cycle at a time so
they'll go in and read the meter and
[2:00:24] then your crew will come along and
change it yeah and then the about it
[2:00:28] we'll also take a picture of
picture with the readings
[2:00:34] these guys can go back in look at them
[2:00:39] yeah
reports that we can run meter change out
[2:00:42] ports so we'll tell you what meters were
changed out that week
[2:00:45] that week so you'll have all that data
very good
[2:00:53] old meter reading report new meter
reading so it does the old meter meter
[2:00:57] out new meter new meter it gives you
that calculation so you can still yeah
[2:01:01] you can compensate yeah you compensate I
get it right and councilman Yandy I just
[2:01:06] want to go back
I don't want anyone to think that we are
[2:01:10] have tried to do this back door we have
been talking about this project for a
[2:01:15] long time I just want to make it very
clear that we have not rolled this out
[2:01:21] to the residents
because we've not known anything and the
[2:01:26] last thing that I wanted was to cause
mass chaos hey we're going to change
[2:01:30] your meter they're going to be smart
they're going to read 100 your bill
[2:01:33] might go up but I don't know when I
don't know who you know so I I just want
[2:01:39] to be clear that we have been talking
about it but there is a reason that we
[2:01:43] did not I didn't want to scare everyone
especially we're we're still licking
[2:01:48] wounds from billing calibration so the
the bottom line here is all we're going
[2:01:53] to be charging is for the water that
they use absolutely there's no added
[2:01:57] premium there's no added value there
it's simply what they're using a lot of
[2:02:02] people have been skating by yep
a more accurate bill
[2:02:08] so if people see their bills go up it's
not because the city's building them
[2:02:11] anymore they're billing them more
accurately right right okay very good
[2:02:17] thank you
[2:02:32] well what we've seen some cities do and
this is up to you guys not that I want
[2:02:36] to add any work but you can pull several
meters out from around town and then
[2:02:39] have them tested and if they test at 60
or 80 percent that you can kind of
[2:02:45] average and say hey our bills are going
to go up 40 they're going to go up 20
[2:02:48] but there's no specific
[2:03:11] don't know until they pull the old meter
yeah
[2:03:14] Ron we're gonna
[2:03:26] Ron we're going to put two meters at
your house charge you twice
[2:03:31] one thing I would recommend is before
you turn on customer portal to your
[2:03:35] citizens and I would give it six months
so that data can build up in there and
[2:03:40] that it's something to see that also
gives your customer service team time to
[2:03:43] get prepared for those questions okay
because we don't want to flood them with
[2:03:46] questions if they're not ready for it
sure
[2:03:48] all right
wrap it up everybody good any other
[2:03:52] questions make a motion we close the
discussion
[2:03:56] you have something wrong
[2:04:06] we just wanted to see you stand up
[2:04:11] Ron McCall 3403 South Wilbur Del City
[2:04:16] on the concept of billing is there any
way that we could set a limit that okay
[2:04:22] your individual bill will not increase
over 20 percent for the first six months
[2:04:28] so we want to know for that we'll have
no way of knowing
[2:04:32] however and I'm going to step out on a
limb here Ron just because it's you
[2:04:37] if someone makes a dramatic increase in
their water bill we can work with them
[2:04:43] well that was my thought we yeah we can
work with them to help them adapt and
[2:04:48] and they'll either have to learn to
conserve their water consumption to get
[2:04:52] within a certain guideline right or
figure out you know where all the water
[2:04:57] is going but we're not we're not going
to go in there and start shutting
[2:05:01] everybody's water off just because they
got a new meter
[2:05:07] thank you for granting you Britney
whomever myself the authority to
[2:05:17] right we're going to look after that
thank you for everybody but you
[2:05:29] so if every homeowner logs in and says
hey let me know when I've used 75 of
[2:05:34] what I used last month it'll send you an
alarm and we can also tie that to
[2:05:37] Dollars okay now once my bill gets to a
certain oh that's excellent so again
[2:05:41] it's all very proactive for the homework
that's excellent I like that
[2:05:45] okay
very good
[2:05:49] uh Kyle you started a motion to close
the public hearing portion
[2:05:54] I'm sorry what'd you say I second mayor
thank you
[2:06:00] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[2:06:04] take the vote councilman Gandy I have
councilman
[2:06:07] Brown
aye
[2:06:10] trustee Finch I trustee Dean I
chairman votes on the motion carries
[2:06:16] we'll move on to Item B Council action
discussion consideration possible likes
[2:06:21] to award or dot deny ITB number zero two
one seven Advanced metering
[2:06:27] infrastructure Ami
water meters to the lowest responsible
[2:06:31] bitter Innovative utility Solutions LLC
for an amount not to exceed three
[2:06:37] million seven hundred ninety nine
thousand two hundred and eighty six
[2:06:40] dollars and forty cents authorized trust
chair to endorse same and direct staff
[2:06:47] accordingly do I make a motion that we
approve
[2:06:51] Sky interject given the factors with the
um all the software in the 20-year I
[2:06:57] would like to modify the contract to
Encompass a little bit more of that to
[2:07:02] make it more clear that's there we have
the ITB attached I've already spoken
[2:07:06] with both the gentleman here that
they're they're expecting that they had
[2:07:10] a couple excuse me
um contracts in the proposal and I said
[2:07:15] we don't want to do those because they
have California law and they were
[2:07:18] agreeable to go ahead and modify this
but given the excellent 20-year warranty
[2:07:24] I think we want to add a little bit more
in there and beef that up so it's clear
[2:07:28] if anybody that looks at that in the
future so we want to Award with
[2:07:31] modification yes sir yes yes mayor
I like it
[2:07:38] now
thank you Beverly
[2:07:44] um
[2:07:46] I can make the motion if you'd like can
you modify your motion yep okay so uh I
[2:07:52] would like to make a motion that we
Award
[2:07:56] itb0217 with modifications
um those modifications will be
[2:08:02] approved by Beverly or actually have
already been stated by Beverly I guess
[2:08:07] the mayor yeah and mayor so okay so with
modification to Advanced metering
[2:08:13] infrastructure Ami water meters to the
lowest responsible responsible bidder
[2:08:18] Innovative utility Solutions LLC for an
amount not to exceed three million seven
[2:08:22] hundred ninety nine thousand two hundred
eighty six dollars and forty cents
[2:08:26] authorized trust chair to endorse same
and direct staff accordingly
[2:08:32] second
[2:08:36] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[2:08:40] take the vote trustee Gandy
aye trustee Dean aye trustee Finch
[2:08:45] trustee Brown
aye chair votes I the motion carries any
[2:08:49] further trust input
[2:08:53] make a motion that we adjourn back to
the Dell City council meeting
[2:09:00] second
[2:09:05] a bit of a motion in a second is there
any discussion take the vote trustee
[2:09:09] Dean
aye trustee Finch aye I trusty Gandy
[2:09:15] trustee Brown
aye chair votes I we now adjourn back to
[2:09:19] the council meeting
[2:09:24] two minutes
take a five minute break let's take a
[2:09:27] five minute break
[2:09:35] foreign okay everybody back we will now
resume from the recess we're at item
[2:09:41] number 17 discussion only
special projects for fiscal year
[2:09:45] 2023-24.
[2:09:52] discussion consideration possible action
approved or deny conducting a discussion
[2:09:57] regarding special projects that could be
requested by Council for fiscal year
[2:10:03] 2023-2024 do I hear a motion make a
motion we open the discussion
[2:10:09] second
[2:10:12] we have a motion and a second is there
any discussion
[2:10:15] take the vote councilman Gandy aye
councilman Finch hi councilman Dean
[2:10:20] councilman Brown
aye mayor votes eye the motion carries
[2:10:24] we are now open for discussion and
before we start in I would like to jump
[2:10:29] out there with a project city manager
that we discussed at the last meeting
[2:10:34] and we're talking about the entry to Del
City the entry sign on Sooner Road
[2:10:39] at Reno
and that is a project that is sorely
[2:10:44] lacking that is an eyesore coming into
the city we had some great ideas brought
[2:10:49] To Us by the beautification committee
the last council meeting and I would
[2:10:53] like to put that as the number one
project get the entry to Del City up to
[2:10:59] standard
I agree let me go into a quick detail on
[2:11:03] how this is going to work I want to make
sure you all know this is part of the
[2:11:06] budgeting process for Melissa and myself
a couple of department heads have stayed
[2:11:11] because they've got special projects
they want us what a shock it's the chief
[2:11:15] no what I want you all to know is if we
can get these on the radar now the goal
[2:11:21] of course is to find the money within
the city if we have it already within
[2:11:24] our means to be able to perform these if
not this is the opportunity to say we're
[2:11:28] going out for grant funding specialty
funding one-time funding to do any of
[2:11:33] these things for example the entry to
Del City beautification committee
[2:11:36] project could be completed with
neighborhood enhancement according to
[2:11:39] the rules and requirements of the
restricted fund but if we can get
[2:11:43] Oklahoma beautiful parks and tourism
someone else to give us that funding
[2:11:48] even better so at this point even giving
us ideas that we can have down I will
[2:11:53] try to build in what's in the budget and
I make the I make the example you all
[2:11:57] have five million dollars in requests
and we have fifty thousand dollars to
[2:12:00] spend but if we don't have those things
out now then we can't do that when the
[2:12:05] Auditors come back and they ask us
questions why did you all perform for
[2:12:09] example we did do the if we're going to
do the
[2:12:12] bathroom project here in this next
fiscal year why was it not budgeted why
[2:12:16] did it have to be moved money moved
around for it why was it not prepped for
[2:12:20] this is an example of how we're prepping
for it now so this is better budgeting
[2:12:24] process and it lets me know in this new
role exactly what we're looking for I
[2:12:28] know I have many of your requests from
my previous role but now instead of it
[2:12:32] being economic focused now it's all
encompassing okay so let's take this in
[2:12:38] two parts
we can talk about infrastructure
[2:12:43] and we can talk about beautification and
and parks and kind of keep keep focused
[2:12:48] and then we'll find some place for PD
and amongst all that stuff do we want to
[2:12:52] we're going to call you recreate oh
beautification yeah you need you need
[2:12:56] some beautification at the police
department should we take this by Ward
[2:12:59] potentially as well we could and that
would not be a bad starting point we
[2:13:04] could start with Ward one and unless
everybody talk about their favorite
[2:13:07] project for for Ward one what would you
like to see
[2:13:12] you were talking earlier about the
sidewalks on sunny lane in the
[2:13:15] guardrails and I think that's a worthy
project but is there something in Ward
[2:13:18] one that you would specifically like to
see
[2:13:23] right now I think it's more about the
other words in those things
[2:13:28] um okay but so one of the things I just
request for this whole part is we need
[2:13:33] to get out the things that he needs you
know that we can try to get into the
[2:13:36] budget
but I don't think that you know this
[2:13:39] should be thought of as the one time to
get everything in so so so we got plenty
[2:13:44] so you know I think we should be really
just thinking of the most important
[2:13:47] things to get done tonight and maybe we
have another one next time so that's
[2:13:51] what I'm saying this is there's plenty
of things like the entrances to uh to
[2:13:55] all of our streets have you know places
where the water lines are cut out and we
[2:14:00] need to fix those speed bumps and this
but I think that uh for right now as is
[2:14:05] that word one should be relatively okay
or two
[2:14:12] please say sidewalks on sunny lane
sidewalks on sunny lane that's all
[2:14:18] you're getting
um
[2:14:20] all of my projects that I have down here
are not World War II
[2:14:26] they're for things that we have been
working on that have been in the mix
[2:14:29] since I have been on Council let's hear
your top my top one is the restroom for
[2:14:35] City Hall it's been on here since day
one that I got yes yes
[2:14:40] actually we have already voted on that
in a previous council meeting we we
[2:14:44] voted to move forward with that we just
are waiting on the bid process is that
[2:14:48] correct correct I think let's go ahead
and put that let's put that down the
[2:14:52] restroom we we approve the restroom
modification remodel on the ground floor
[2:14:59] floor at City Hall I think that was the
one that we had Plus
[2:15:04] the restrooms at the community center
the um the senior center and the food
[2:15:09] prep area and the tile floor for the
senior center those were all on the
[2:15:14] agenda and were approved by the council
previously I think we had approved
[2:15:18] looking at the drawings because we were
updating we made some updates to the
[2:15:21] restrooms where we wanted
a water a water closet is that what
[2:15:26] we're calling it two two new water
closets I believe so yeah we we did
[2:15:30] discuss that so my concern is that the
restrooms at City Hall we have voted on
[2:15:36] it before it's been four or five years
ago but I just want I don't want it to
[2:15:40] get lost I want it completed we're just
talking about budget items that's
[2:15:45] something that has already been approved
but we want to make that a high priority
[2:15:49] in the budget that's where we're going
with it and whenever you come in you see
[2:15:52] the budget coming up in the next few
weeks you can ask myself and Melissa
[2:15:56] where is the money for blank and we say
it is right here in section seven
[2:16:00] whatever you know she can read the
budget he's if I can but you get it
[2:16:04] we're we're currently talking about
things that are not infrastructure
[2:16:08] so yeah
so um
[2:16:12] we've talked about the bathrooms in the
senior center
[2:16:15] I'd like to talk about lighting at Eagle
Lake I understand the trail is already
[2:16:22] in process is that correct we already
have the funding
[2:16:26] are we moving forward with the trail at
Eagle Lake so put on the budget lighting
[2:16:31] for the trail at Eagle Lake we need to
have that well lit if we're going to
[2:16:35] expect citizens to walk out there and
feel safe so lighting I think is a high
[2:16:39] project
for the new trail that we're putting in
[2:16:43] at Eagle Lake
because it bothers the fish
[2:16:48] shut up and
however that is a question I think that
[2:16:52] you know that part of the bicycle trail
you know the the South half going over
[2:16:56] to that spot should be well lit the
question is is whether or not we should
[2:17:01] have light pollution for the other half
you know it's so so
[2:17:06] the you know the you know the light blue
you know is this it's would be one of
[2:17:11] the darker spots
um you know what people want to be
[2:17:15] actually out there
with it or not so that's just one
[2:17:18] consideration
so when I've been to a lake and I went
[2:17:22] to the marina they've got lights
everywhere I don't
[2:17:25] know is this such a thing as light
pollution at a lake well definitely
[2:17:29] Drapers is very dark but that's not
Draper but but again it's just the
[2:17:34] question is
trying to figure out do we really want
[2:17:38] to have the whole Trail lit
or do you want to have it we need the
[2:17:42] trail lit if we expect it to be used
especially in the in the winter months
[2:17:46] when daylight goes away early
I have to think safety for our citizens
[2:17:51] I think lighting is a high priority Pam
did you you had others Pam correct we're
[2:17:56] still ward two yes I did
um the sound at the community center I
[2:18:00] think that is a must yeah put that up
there everything is going to be top of
[2:18:04] the list you know that right
[2:18:07] we need the sound center at a community
center
[2:18:11] budget for that put a big star by that
underline it sorry
[2:18:19] but you'll be able to speak about how
much money you don't have clearly at the
[2:18:25] community center
we've talked about the activity center
[2:18:28] that's on my list uh the Eagle Lake
upgrade
[2:18:33] a rain Trent Park and I would like to
have a clear view of what we're going to
[2:18:39] do there I just don't want to jump into
something I want a good plan stealing my
[2:18:44] thunder here
so so yeah both of us both Kyle and I
[2:18:49] are also agree which is which like I
said I was talking about the village The
[2:18:53] Village hired a company to come out and
design the park
[2:18:57] come up with the parts and in that way
you have a clear vision of what you
[2:19:00] would like
and and in that way once you have that
[2:19:04] part done is hopefully you can actually
have that same company at least start
[2:19:09] coming up with bids or different things
that you might need for the engineering
[2:19:12] drawings to submit some of that ACOG or
yeah we're not getting some other
[2:19:16] options you know this fiscal year we're
not going to complete Ray Trent Park so
[2:19:20] let's pay for the engineering that goes
into the drawings and and the plan for
[2:19:25] raytrain Park which would be great to
coincide with everything that we're
[2:19:28] going to be getting from half you know
half is going to have a ton of stuff for
[2:19:32] us too so that's what I'd like to see
for Ray Trent yeah
[2:19:37] okay the Rose Lane project
at least a Clear Vision on that
[2:19:47] at Edwards Park
I would like those old shrubs taken out
[2:19:51] and new trees put in that is very
minimal Edwards
[2:19:59] new signs or at least had the old ones
touched up just so that they look good I
[2:20:06] just the park signs right I just I'm a
very visual person if I if you go into a
[2:20:12] town and everything looks speed up it
means we didn't take the time to care
[2:20:17] um
I think that
[2:20:20] the city hall the garden out here it
needs to be planted a water source and
[2:20:25] mulched
that's another thing it's a vision what
[2:20:29] people come in to pay their water bill
we looked we need to look 100 percent
[2:20:36] and that's it
[2:20:39] what do you have Claudia when we when we
talk about
[2:20:43] infrastructure we're talking about roads
and drains and that sort of thing and
[2:20:47] I'd like to get Bryant Avenue North of
15th Street if you guys have driven that
[2:20:52] that is the worst piece of road that we
own In the City by far and I have since
[2:20:59] day one on Council I have been fighting
to get some Headway there we need to
[2:21:04] figure out that portion of of Bryant for
sure and just so we're clear both uh
[2:21:09] Hatfield and Craig have been working on
that according to our surveys
[2:21:13] that entire section 15th to Scott Street
is not in Del City's limits that's why
[2:21:20] we haven't touched it really that is on
each one of their lists but we can't
[2:21:24] touch the technically Oklahoma City's
property now we are going to check that
[2:21:28] survey it and figure out if that is the
truth but when you look on the county
[2:21:31] assessor's website and then previous
surveys it actually shows as you move up
[2:21:36] Bryant it slowly veers off to the east
until Brian is completely covered by
[2:21:41] Oklahoma City at which case if we know
anybody that knows Oklahoma City Council
[2:21:45] people
we could ask them to do it for free for
[2:21:49] us so
[2:21:53] um so while you're figuring that out I
believe that Vicki um is actually a very
[2:21:58] important Street
um they're between 15th and 29th um that
[2:22:03] whole area needs to be resurfaced I did
send some pictures to JD today with some
[2:22:10] pretty large potholes that I think you
know need to be fixed in the immediate
[2:22:14] time
um but I would like to see all of Vicki
[2:22:18] between 15th and 29th be completely
redone and also the um the school zone
[2:22:28] wavy line what is the professional name
for that squiggly line the squiggly line
[2:22:33] thank you I believe all of that needs to
be repainted and redone the crosswalks
[2:22:39] need to be done yeah that would go hand
in hand with the resurfacing project
[2:22:42] yeah all of that um that that needs new
face and staying in the old town area I
[2:22:49] would like to see a park or even a
splash pad
[2:22:54] um I have looked into some possible
grants
[2:22:58] um out there for splash pads
specifically so I know that there's
[2:23:04] going to be some some good help out
there but I think a splash pad would be
[2:23:07] great for Old Town
two parks in the state of Oklahoma that
[2:23:11] have to have got to the top ten there's
one up by Tulsa and actually the
[2:23:17] scissortail splash pad is within the top
ten
[2:23:20] so we could be up there yeah it's
definitely something that the kids would
[2:23:25] really have a lot of fun with and they
can actually walk there in that old town
[2:23:29] area they definitely need more help and
big picture here hopefully coinciding
[2:23:37] with police I do know that we've got a
pretty high Juvenile Detention rate and
[2:23:46] I want to see what we can do to help our
youth what is it that they that they
[2:23:52] need after school during school what can
we build for them that will keep them
[2:23:58] keep them busy what can we do as a
community there whether we grow the
[2:24:04] community center and really start
getting some things in there for our
[2:24:08] youth but we definitely want to start
seeing something for for for our youth
[2:24:14] something that they can do and that was
pretty much it Vicky's the is one of my
[2:24:18] main things lighting I like what you
said mayor we definitely could do with
[2:24:24] updating a lot of our lighting lighting
down Vicki Lighting near our schools
[2:24:28] Lighting near our new Pathways we can
definitely look into getting some kind
[2:24:35] of help for for new lighting projects
thank you so Vicki was on my thought as
[2:24:39] well and so for us past Paving on it I
think has only lasted about eight years
[2:24:45] or seven years and so one of the things
that I was talking to a Paving Company
[2:24:49] about is it's just kind of how thick
you're going to actually make it so
[2:24:54] they're kind of laughing at some of the
cities where they just do like a you
[2:24:57] know a one inch or two inch and possibly
you know changing that thickness to
[2:25:02] hopefully make our main thoroughfare
Vicki last longer so it would be better
[2:25:06] to try to spend a little bit more money
on that project and also looking into
[2:25:10] the actual drainage to make sure that
all the streets are draining down Vicky
[2:25:14] because that's unfortunately where the
water has to go that's the channel
[2:25:18] well
so Ward four
[2:25:22] uh okay so I know High Soul it's it's
kind of it's in need of some repair I
[2:25:29] know it's on a list somewhere it has
certainly started to degrade much faster
[2:25:35] here in the last couple of years Howard
another Street that's got some pretty
[2:25:40] there's just some rough sections it's
not you know it's not horrible but I
[2:25:45] think it's I do spot repair yeah and
it's and I think it's the
[2:25:50] base layer whatever's underneath has
failed in a few places basically from
[2:25:55] Gina to just north of Judy is a really
bad section there and it's from all the
[2:26:00] there's one spot where I think a trash
truck you can just tell that's where it
[2:26:04] stops every time and it's just slowly
worked that pavement there so
[2:26:10] um there's that I would like for us to
really work to get Eagle Lake connected
[2:26:17] to Midwest City through that trail
system there we're gonna be there's
[2:26:20] going to be that
that spot where we need a lot of grant
[2:26:24] money for Trails yeah you know that it's
going to stop right there sooner we're
[2:26:30] going to have nothing you know we will
be the we we will be the section of
[2:26:34] Trail not there
um here very shortly so I would like us
[2:26:38] to really fight hard to do that we've
already talked about Ray Trent where I
[2:26:43] would just like us to spend some money
on engineering you know I don't think we
[2:26:48] should really spend anything until we
know what we're going to be doing 5 10
[2:26:51] 15 years down the road there
that's part of what we're doing with the
[2:26:56] half company and so my other ones that I
had since I passed online was uh over at
[2:27:04] 28th and Eberly at the fire station is
this we're probably really need to look
[2:27:08] at replacing that intersection from 28th
in aprily over to the post office
[2:27:15] because we always have all the heavy
fire trucks in and out we have all the
[2:27:19] traffic in and out that uh you know if
we can get that to at least the mailbox
[2:27:24] because the mailbox always has the part
falling in but that would be a nice
[2:27:30] smaller area to do but also on the other
side of you know 31st Street has a lot
[2:27:36] of failures but that's kind of more of
again getting back to just road-based
[2:27:40] failures back to 28th and Napoli I think
there's a lot of heavy florist truck
[2:27:44] going through there yeah yeah
multiple ones okay as part of that
[2:27:51] should we consider putting an actual
rather than asphalt but concrete that's
[2:27:55] concrete base right for not just the
road but also in front of the mailboxes
[2:28:01] that's that constantly is failing soon
let's go back to that intersection when
[2:28:05] we initially were designing the fire
station there and there was an island
[2:28:09] that had a flagpole and you guys
remember the flagpole and in that little
[2:28:13] island and we were supposed to put it
was it a statue or a plaque to Bob Woods
[2:28:19] in the center that then when we rebuild
it all we got was grass
[2:28:24] That was supposed to go back with a
flagpole and a plaque honoring Bob woods
[2:28:29] and that's something that we might look
into
[2:28:32] that would be some parts does the fire
station not have a flagpole at all or
[2:28:38] did they put it in the wrong place wrong
place
[2:28:41] yeah it's on the North side I wonder if
we could get that moot
[2:28:45] so mayor what if we did
instead of doing the plaque and a
[2:28:49] flagpole there what if we did a little
just a little something
[2:28:52] on the Rose Lane project just so good we
talked about that
[2:28:57] Rose Lane if you guys are familiar is
the parking lot for what used to be
[2:29:02] Gregory's and and all those other shops
there and that actually belongs to the
[2:29:06] city
and what we had proposed in the past
[2:29:10] this has been before the council in the
past the area between The High Line
[2:29:15] poles and the street right now it's
concrete but it's kind of useless
[2:29:19] because you really can't get around in
parking it it's hard to get through
[2:29:22] there so in the past we had proposed
take out the concrete section from the
[2:29:28] Highline polls to 29th Street make a
Green Space there with sort of the
[2:29:34] winding sidewalk going through there in
fact we have drawings for that we had
[2:29:39] that engineered
and uh
[2:29:42] perhaps we could put electrical outlets
at strategic places so that when we have
[2:29:48] some sort of event in that area like the
music festivals that we had the music
[2:29:53] programs vendors could set up you
suggested the
[2:29:59] uh business Market could be held outside
with tents and and that'd be a great
[2:30:04] event to put there if we make that green
space in between The High Line poles and
[2:30:10] 29th Street yeah as a part of on a
couple of different occasions half had
[2:30:16] some really very cool drawings where
they had taken brick and they had taken
[2:30:22] grass and they had made it really a very
usable some examples of some very usable
[2:30:26] spaces there that
um I thought and they actually had I if
[2:30:30] I remember correct they actually had a
rendering of what specifically what Rose
[2:30:35] Lane could look like for what looked
like a
[2:30:39] minimal investment really we actually
have engineered drawings of that area
[2:30:43] where we proposed it yeah so that could
be a that could be an easy I think when
[2:30:48] we were working on that that's about
when covet hit and everything came to a
[2:30:53] screeching home so that's something that
could be Revisited we can pull out the
[2:30:57] old drawings we really don't have to
re-engineer it
[2:31:00] one of the suggestions was to put all
the high line polls underground however
[2:31:04] that's cost prohibitive not only to the
city who would be doing the main lines
[2:31:09] but all the shops that are served off of
the feeder systems from that from those
[2:31:14] Highline wires because they would have
to convert from overhead service to
[2:31:18] underground service and that would put
the burden on each individual shop
[2:31:22] so we kind of nixed that program and
went to just realigning The High Line
[2:31:29] polls getting them in a straight line
right now if you look at them they're
[2:31:32] kind of all over the place that there's
no Rhyme or Reason to the system
[2:31:36] but we do have drawings for that and I
think that's something we could bring
[2:31:39] out and revisit
so I agree my other uh thought was this
[2:31:45] uh the sidewalk between about 25th is
24th and 22nd on sunny lane so what we
[2:31:54] currently you have a lot of people in
Pam's neighborhood that try to walk up
[2:32:00] along Sunny Lane in between Sunny Lane
and the creek that's open without a
[2:32:03] guardrail or any kind of railing
so when we discussed this we came up to
[2:32:08] the thing is this we can't put a railing
in
[2:32:18] between the railing and that it's Crush
zone so they we got nixed on trying to
[2:32:23] make it safer that way
but we we discussed this is that we
[2:32:27] think with a minimal amount of of work
and looking at it that we could get
[2:32:32] enough room between the creek and the
houses and use that's use the west side
[2:32:38] of the creek to go and make the uh yeah
sidewalk on the west side of the canal
[2:32:42] right
and then that way you know we at least
[2:32:45] solve that part so I mean it might take
you know you know a small amount of
[2:32:50] purchases or different things and then
just to get the sidewalk put in I think
[2:32:54] that'd possibly some things there it's
overgrown right there are trees growing
[2:32:57] in it so you're looking at Public Works
coming in and clearing some trees
[2:33:02] and that would be that and just the
concrete I don't right yeah we stopped
[2:33:07] whenever we went out there yeah we
looked and measured it yeah and it
[2:33:10] looked it looked it looked close and and
if we don't then we unfortunately you
[2:33:15] know we just go and see about buying a
little bit of time you land out yeah
[2:33:19] five five four feet change the fence out
yeah and have it but that's another
[2:33:24] project I think we've got more projects
that we're going to be able to do right
[2:33:28] now that's true but the big thing is I
wanted to make sure you all had a chance
[2:33:31] to talk about this because
[2:33:35] and then as we go through the fiscal
year a project comes up and then we have
[2:33:38] to find the money and that's usually the
burden for Miss Melissa's can you find
[2:33:42] the money in the couch cushion for us to
do this and it's better to have it
[2:33:45] prepared for up front or give us the
opportunity with the grant writing team
[2:33:49] I'm putting together to go look for that
money
[2:33:54] what we could do is perhaps you and I
could sit down and sort of put together
[2:34:01] a prioritized list
and then present it to the council at
[2:34:05] the next meeting
is everybody good with that yes I I
[2:34:09] wanted to talk back to that 28th in
Everly several portions that that has
[2:34:14] have has already been replaced
so
[2:34:19] but there's another one starting that's
right there in front of 28th and Everly
[2:34:23] another traffic from the floor shop it
is actually
[2:34:27] but also let's think about doing
the alleyway where the post office is
[2:34:33] because it is horrible and the city
disown that that needs to be a complete
[2:34:38] new road base there that's what we need
I mean I think that would go with
[2:34:42] concrete rather than well that initially
started when we had a water line brick
[2:34:47] there and that saturated the road base
what you got wrong and I think that
[2:34:52] you'd have to think about that whether
or not we have any more water main
[2:34:56] problems we might want to change the
water maybe before you start pouring
[2:34:58] concrete so the one one thought JD is if
we could possibly look into
[2:35:06] kind of having a knowledge after doing
the budget that
[2:35:09] drainage
has this amount of money recurring each
[2:35:14] year not not necessarily just how much
it is but recurring and then that way we
[2:35:17] could go and say you know as I have a
drainage box or this stuff or different
[2:35:21] thoughts that we can look at seeing if
we could you know that can that could
[2:35:25] stimulate some thoughts about how to
spend some money without
[2:35:30] going into you know the money that
that's kind of stored I actually think
[2:35:35] I'd be interested in hearing Chief
Burger he probably has some ideas have
[2:35:39] you got some things that like a wish
list is there something you'd like to
[2:35:42] add to this
no we're going to open it come on up
[2:35:46] Chief and and tell us what you're
thinking
[2:35:51] we're we're going to practice the answer
for you right now no no no no
[2:35:56] okay we've practiced one of the things
I'd like to consider and I've spent some
[2:36:01] time talking with JD on it is replacing
our whole Cad and RMS which is our
[2:36:06] computer aided dispatching and Records
management system currently we're
[2:36:11] offering off operating off of a cardinal
system they're based out of Texas it's
[2:36:16] been in place there in the PD now I
think it went in 98 we went live with it
[2:36:22] in 99.
um
[2:36:25] I had a company come in there actually
took over in running County right now
[2:36:30] and uh
calibers was the name of the company and
[2:36:35] they're actually running it for Oklahoma
County they came in and looked at my
[2:36:39] system and said okay this is what you
have and basically said we're operating
[2:36:43] on late 90s technology
so one of the things that it would
[2:36:48] benefit is for example when an officer
does a report now he goes out and takes
[2:36:53] a report if we have to run a driver's
license and ID for the report he's
[2:36:57] inputting that information in three or
four or five different modules over and
[2:37:02] over again this new system allows drop
drag and drop once that's information is
[2:37:08] ran by a dispatcher it automatically
drops it automatically populates
[2:37:13] and eventually building onto that system
with laptops in the cars my goal with
[2:37:18] that would be to keep the officers in
the cars on the street yeah
[2:37:23] currently if an officer goes out and he
takes a simple vandalism report a petty
[2:37:28] Larson airport a simple report he has to
return to the station and come in and
[2:37:33] he's going for that one report he's
going to spend a minimum of 20 to 30
[2:37:38] minutes just on a simple report right
there in the station doing that if he
[2:37:42] gets into a large report a DUI accident
or anything like that a domestic
[2:37:47] violence he could spend several hours
there in the station doing a report and
[2:37:51] it takes him off the street right
whereas some of these new reporting
[2:37:54] systems automatically populate fill in
charges on different sections and would
[2:38:00] keep them in the car a lot longer out on
the street he could the officer could do
[2:38:05] a simple report right there on scene and
have it submitted and gone so I think
[2:38:10] there's some updating we've looked at
different options we've been looking at
[2:38:14] some grant funding on that also but just
so you know where I'm kind of headed
[2:38:19] next with some of my major projects is
is that do you have any idea what the
[2:38:24] dollar figure is on something like that
a budgetary number caliber when they
[2:38:28] came in here a few weeks ago and gave us
an estimate I just got their budget
[2:38:31] they're looking at about 283 thousand
dollars an initial setup and then
[2:38:36] they're looking at about reoccurring
cost every year about seventy seven
[2:38:40] thousand dollars so it's quite an
expense currently we pay just under
[2:38:45] fifteen thousand dollars a year for
Cardinal so it's quite as quite a step
[2:38:51] there
but I think with technology come along
[2:38:55] this is the way we need to go so does
this include the laptops in the in the
[2:38:59] officer's car or no that's another
that's another major expense
[2:39:06] right
so what's nice about this though is we
[2:39:10] all would like to have more police out
on the street and more visibility yes so
[2:39:15] without having to hire
two or three more officers per shift we
[2:39:19] can get that through just having the
reports being able to be done out of the
[2:39:23] field
and
[2:39:26] and the system I'm looking at there's
more out there I'm looking at another
[2:39:29] one also
um half a million yeah there's there's a
[2:39:33] bunch of them out there but you're also
talking record sharing
[2:39:36] when we get into this we will have
access and sharing records not only
[2:39:40] Statewide
Nationwide to be able to share currently
[2:39:45] on our Cardinal system it's our system
nobody can access it and we only have
[2:39:50] our data and nobody else's data so we're
kind of on our own little island again
[2:39:55] right here without sharing any data so
this opens that door allows us to be
[2:39:59] able to see
criminal history all of that right there
[2:40:03] in the car and be able to share data
know what somebody's done with this
[2:40:07] person in Tulsa or Wichita or wherever
so what we're dealing with we're going
[2:40:12] to need to look for some grant money so
just so you know we've already had that
[2:40:16] conversation this morning we'll have a
grant submitted most likely by Friday or
[2:40:20] Monday of next week for the initial cost
of this if we can squeeze the laptops
[2:40:25] out of them too even better the problem
we're having is if we can get these
[2:40:30] one-time costs funded and that's not
just for his project I pick on him but
[2:40:34] all of his projects are phenomenal but
any of these things that we do it's the
[2:40:37] recurring that's going to get us hence
why we did these water meters there is
[2:40:41] no recurring cost it was a giant up
front luckily arpa came in and took care
[2:40:45] of this that covers that cost but the 77
000 recurring he's already got fifteen
[2:40:51] thousand dollar budgeted but he still
needs 60
[2:40:54] 5 000 or more to do that and Melissa do
we have an extra 65 a year lying around
[2:40:59] not so much we'd have to move it around
modify it change it up
[2:41:03] but you can look at it steal it from
Hatfield in the officer what is an
[2:41:07] officer just a generic officer cost a
year 100
[2:41:14] and we're looking at over the course of
a year keeping the officers out in the
[2:41:19] field out on the street much more than
just one officer
[2:41:24] so I mean the payback on this
is going to be ongoing even though it's
[2:41:29] 77 000 a year what percentage of an
officer shift do they spend writing
[2:41:33] reports do you think on average 25 50
percent
[2:41:40] it varies but I would say a good
estimate is probably 40 to 50 percent
[2:41:44] okay so take one officer and you have
paid for that the cost of the cost of
[2:41:50] the annual Stone by having them on the
street at that point yeah but you're not
[2:41:53] telling me to get rid of an officer
right telling you to get rid of an
[2:41:56] officer I'm saying that it is paid for
and we are basically doubling our police
[2:42:01] presence by just spending sixty five
thousand dollars I like it I like it I
[2:42:06] may be adding more
[2:42:09] more of your facility I did also notice
that your dispatch system was fairly old
[2:42:16] as well would that tie in together
that is all together the cad is the
[2:42:22] computer-aided dispatching in the and
the RMS is the records management
[2:42:26] and you have to have both those in
conjunction with each other so caliber
[2:42:30] does both those and that's tying them
both together so you can run so the
[2:42:35] officer goes out there and runs a
driver's license and dispatch is running
[2:42:38] that if that officer doesn't run it in
the car and he drops it in there and the
[2:42:42] officer has all the information to
include photograph on the driver's
[2:42:45] license everything right there and then
can turn and then drop that into a
[2:42:50] report which saves the entry time
over time currently we went to the
[2:42:55] electronic ticket Riders here about a
year ago
[2:42:59] and over time this system also would
allow us to integrate their electronic
[2:43:04] ticket Riders into this and to be able
to take away from what we're currently
[2:43:08] paying to Tyler so I could absorb some
of those costs in that over time but
[2:43:12] we're in a contract with them for a
period of time but over time I would
[2:43:17] look at reabsorbing them across back in
there and seeing what we could do to
[2:43:22] help with that cost but it's going to be
a major cost to try to get into it right
[2:43:26] away get into what we need but again
that's why I want to put it out there
[2:43:30] that we have a goal
one of the things that this is sort of
[2:43:35] out in left field for something that I
would think would be advantageous would
[2:43:39] be like a dictation uh
piece to the software where officers can
[2:43:44] actually
I don't not everyone types all that fast
[2:43:47] so just another time saving thing it's
just something in the medical field
[2:43:50] that's pretty prevalent that saves a lot
of time no they make those for law
[2:43:54] enforcement too and I've had to use
those in the past on the smaller
[2:43:59] instances but yeah so Chief just so I
have it down for our special project
[2:44:02] discussion the cad RMS system goes hand
in hand they're not separate systems
[2:44:07] it's one system as a whole you need them
to be one system as well yes they are
[2:44:11] two different areas but they need to be
in one system okay laptops in the
[2:44:15] vehicles yes and then you're going to
need either cellular phone or tablet
[2:44:20] service within those laptops to get the
information back and forth yes so
[2:44:23] that'll be a recurring cost is there
anything else specific to this project
[2:44:27] or another project we need to put into
this to make it all
[2:44:31] no because we currently have iPads in
the car which have Wi-Fi service So
[2:44:36] eventually what we would be doing is
we're taking that what we're paying
[2:44:39] currently for iPad service
to like forty dollars in the penny per
[2:44:44] eye flat per iPad out there in a car
right now that would go away and
[2:44:48] replacing it with the Wi-Fi service in
the in the eye in the laptop and so
[2:44:52] there's some things that can be rolled
into that offset as we as we take the
[2:44:55] iPads out and put a laptop in so be
offsetting value yes Chieftain we
[2:45:02] discussed that you have a problem with
your emergency generator and what's
[2:45:05] supplied there so I'm thinking that
maybe we should budget five or ten
[2:45:09] thousand to fix services that that it's
not the generator it's just where where
[2:45:15] the circuit breaker panel is sending the
electricity to and we have found that
[2:45:20] out over the last couple storms is
when they wired The Dispatch Center only
[2:45:26] certain amount of plugs in that Dispatch
Center are powered up by the emergency
[2:45:30] generator yeah hold them if the power
goes out the building basically shuts
[2:45:35] down except for certain
outlets in the Dispatch Center
[2:45:40] and that generator is big enough to run
the whole department and why it wasn't
[2:45:43] that way it's
I don't know so but we've gotten more
[2:45:48] maintenance is coming out on a regular
basis and making sure it's updated and
[2:45:52] we'll start and run for us a last power
outage where everything was just fine
[2:45:57] but yes eventually looking at being able
to power the whole building
[2:46:01] yeah so it seems like we should budget 7
500 or so mayor might have a better idea
[2:46:08] of what it would cost but to go and
figure out how to get the uh circuits on
[2:46:12] the right circuit okay all right very
good thank you thank you
[2:46:17] Ron what do you got
[2:46:27] it
[2:46:32] excuse me Roma Cole 3403 South Wilford
again still
[2:46:39] I don't know how many of you are aware
of the situation with the
[2:46:42] zebra one the dog catcher
currently Oklahoma City's animal shelter
[2:46:50] over here shut down
due to
[2:46:53] animal influenza
consequently they're not taking any new
[2:46:58] animals unless they're vicious
which leaves our Animal control officer
[2:47:03] in kind of a dilemma
she's having to store
[2:47:08] non-vicious animals at a little facility
at off of poor Street
[2:47:14] I don't know how many of you been up
there I've taken the off I had the
[2:47:17] opportunity to run up there here a while
back when I delivered some dog food for
[2:47:20] her
they have a little approximately 10 by
[2:47:23] 10 chain link cage
dirt floor
[2:47:29] does have a roof over it
but they're utilizing Igloo type
[2:47:33] doghouses in there
[2:47:37] as I say it's a dirt floor
you guys been talking about hundreds of
[2:47:43] thousands millions of dollars
I'm talking
[2:47:48] a thousand ten thousand Maybe
to run a concrete floor set that pin off
[2:47:53] over on it she's using an Old Wagon
covered wagon
[2:47:59] I'm going to call it as a trailer
a storage for you know food and other
[2:48:04] supplies
looks like we could do something up
[2:48:09] there to make it a little bit more
inhabitable for those animals
[2:48:14] a little more humane yeah
[2:48:18] inconvenient
you know a step clear back around behind
[2:48:22] all the maintenance equipment
and buildings
[2:48:25] not exactly easy to get to
and even access to that PIN
[2:48:31] you're walking through water or mud
[2:48:36] okay we weren't aware of that so I just
want to bring it to your attention maybe
[2:48:41] you could find an extra an extra load of
concrete somewhere
[2:48:45] to lay a concrete pad
four inches thick put it open the cage
[2:48:50] over it
some type of a little storage building
[2:48:53] that she can at least
have a decent place to store the food or
[2:48:57] whatever necessity she needs I don't
even think she has running water at that
[2:49:01] area
yeah we can get a water line that's
[2:49:05] doable right
if you're gonna have a concrete floor
[2:49:07] why not have a water line that's moist
with concrete off with
[2:49:11] you're going to have to open right water
line
[2:49:20] that's like to make trenchers for
[2:49:26] okay all right thank you anyway Victoria
I'm sure Victoria would appreciate it
[2:49:30] yeah thanks for bringing it so the other
question is is you know we built you
[2:49:34] guys a new Public Works building you
have a lot of these
[2:49:37] right and that's that's my question
right
[2:49:42] is where it is
is there any spot you know any spot
[2:49:48] inside the old
warehouses down there
[2:49:52] you know the different spots that you
got that she could possibly use
[2:49:56] let's yeah so so anyway if you guys
could if you guys could look into let's
[2:50:01] look into that the nice thing about a
word that pin is there is a nice big
[2:50:05] tree yeah
maybe maybe we can have you guys look
[2:50:10] into that and come up with some
suggestions the next council meeting
[2:50:14] um
sorry guys
[2:50:17] thanks
Ron we're on it thank you
[2:50:26] okay it's
and I think there we probably should ask
[2:50:30] those guys I mean are we what kind of
are we gonna buy anything from
[2:50:36] Public Works let's let them look at it
and come back with suggestions in two
[2:50:40] weeks
the hour is getting late and we have
[2:50:44] plenty to do still so the question says
Public Works have any one or two
[2:50:49] projects they want to bring up Public
Works do you have anything you want to
[2:50:54] talk about like one or two projects or
anything else
[2:50:57] don't say a dog kennel
[2:51:01] that's already out there
going once do not say a knuckle boom
[2:51:06] truck
[2:51:12] where are the knuckle boom trucks how
far out are we on this
[2:51:16] awesome
[2:51:22] at the parade
we're going to use them to block off the
[2:51:26] streets
any projects that I would like to see
[2:51:29] down our Public Works would like to see
done
[2:51:32] is just keep updating our outdated
technology in our buildings
[2:51:40] so I won't get specific but
there's things that are very very old
[2:51:45] that need to be once you bring us back
some suggestions okay bring us back
[2:51:50] something and let's go back to the
knuckle boom truck for just a minute yes
[2:51:53] sir so are we approaching the time when
we can take over the large trash project
[2:51:58] ourselves is that something that is
coming soon
[2:52:03] most likely next year because we've
still got to get two new sanitation
[2:52:07] drivers to be able to handle that right
we have a couple proposals to pitch
[2:52:15] um
we're making some changes in the
[2:52:17] sanitation department we're going to
request to open two more jobs
[2:52:23] in that division
we're hoping for and I'm very optimistic
[2:52:28] that it'll be this next fiscal year okay
so all right well I'm I'm really
[2:52:32] interested in in taking control of the
large trash days and I really like the
[2:52:37] idea of doing it perhaps by Wards rather
than having the entire city with trash
[2:52:43] on the curb for however long one of the
proposals just do award at a time and
[2:52:49] work through it one of the ideas that
you mentioned we've actually we're
[2:52:52] trying to incorporate both ideas into
one and
[2:52:55] okay let's see if that'll work we're
looking forward to hearing your proposal
[2:52:59] all right thank you yes sir all right
let's um let's close this public
[2:53:06] discussion now I would entertain a
motion to close the discussion make a
[2:53:09] motion we close the discussion second
[2:53:15] we have a motion in a second is there
any discussion
[2:53:18] take the vote councilman Gandy aye
councilman Brown councilman Finch
[2:53:22] councilman Dean mayor
votes I we motion is approved any
[2:53:28] further Council input yes sir so
um Mr manager if you could look into
[2:53:34] seeing about if our code folks or
whoever's the appropriate one we're not
[2:53:39] supposed to have yard signs or all the
different sales in fact I've been like
[2:53:43] on you which which auction is going on
and there's that instrument auction and
[2:53:48] so finally I looked at it's April 16th
and then of course we have election uh
[2:53:53] um ones up and then of course people
selling this and that so if there's if
[2:53:57] we could see about trying to get rid of
those things and then and then anybody
[2:54:01] who's putting up things like you know
that shouldn't be put up have the code
[2:54:05] people call them and say the next time
we're going to see about you know if we
[2:54:08] can figure out how to find them
um because again those things aren't
[2:54:12] supposed to be up I make a motion that
we adjourn to the Del City Economic
[2:54:16] Development Authority second
[2:54:21] we we have
we have a motion and a second is there
[2:54:25] any discussion take the vote councilman
Dean councilman Gandy aye councilman
[2:54:31] Brown
aye councilman Finch aye mayor votesign
[2:54:34] we're now adjourned to the Del City
Economic Development Authority Madam
[2:54:39] chairman
it's just the Del City Economic
[2:54:43] Development Authority
Melissa would you call role please
[2:54:48] here
trustee Brown here
[2:54:53] here trustee Dean
trustee Eason here in chairwoman Finch
[2:54:57] here
is there any public input at this time
[2:55:03] nothing wrong
[2:55:08] any trust input nope
okay number four minutes discussion
[2:55:13] consideration possible action to approve
minutes of the regular meeting of the DC
[2:55:18] Eda of April 17 2023.
make a motion we approve the minutes
[2:55:25] second
[2:55:28] any discussion
take a vote
[2:55:32] trustee Gandy
aye trustee Dean
[2:55:35] trustee Brown
aye trustee Eason aye chair of otay
[2:55:40] item five executive session discussion
consideration possible action if any to
[2:55:46] approve recessing to Executive session
pursue it to the Oklahoma meeting
[2:55:51] act 25
Oklahoma State 301
[2:55:56] with the purpose of the following
discussion concerning confidential
[2:56:00] matters pertaining to Economic
Development including the transfer of
[2:56:04] property financing or the creation of a
proposal to entice a business to locate
[2:56:09] within the city of Del City including
but not limited to properties
[2:56:14] located at Main Street and South Sooner
Road Southeast 15th Street and South
[2:56:19] Sooner Road and Southeast 15th Street
and South City Lane Road as provided in
[2:56:25] 25 OS 307c 11. as a public disclosure of
the matters discussed would interfere
[2:56:33] with the development of products or
services and public disclosure would
[2:56:37] violate the confidentiality of the
businesses
[2:56:43] Madam attorney do we have enough just
calls
[2:56:47] yes in my opinion this is appropriate
for executive session
[2:56:51] make a motion we adjourn to Executive
session
[2:56:54] second
[2:56:59] take a vote trustee Eason
aye trustee Gandy aye trustee Brown
[2:57:04] aye trustee Dean aye chair bedside
we're now adjourned