1 00:00:06,870 --> 00:00:26,090 Yes, sir. Mayor Alvaro Ariola, Mayor Pro Tem Stephen T. Webb, Councilman James Jaruz, Councilman J. P. Sanchez, Councilwoman Alexandra Falcón-Caldorón, Councilwoman Ernestina Martinez, Councilman Jesus Lopez, Jr., Mayor, you do have a quorum. 2 00:00:37,150 --> 00:00:43,330 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for 3 00:00:43,330 --> 00:00:49,390 which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:50,290 --> 00:00:57,470 On honor of the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state, under God, one 5 00:00:58,550 --> 00:00:59,110 Good 6 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:02,890 afternoon. 7 00:01:03,410 --> 00:01:05,370 I would like you to sit down, please. 8 00:01:06,210 --> 00:01:06,690 Sit down. 9 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:07,510 Yes, please. 10 00:01:08,490 --> 00:01:10,270 My name is Manuel Figuera. 11 00:01:10,350 --> 00:01:12,190 My name is Manuel Figuera. 12 00:01:12,290 --> 00:01:13,990 I'm a pastor of the Oasis Church. 13 00:01:14,650 --> 00:01:17,950 And it's a pleasure to be here with you guys. 14 00:01:18,330 --> 00:01:20,470 And thank you for inviting us to pray. 15 00:01:21,090 --> 00:01:24,170 I believe we believe more than the prayer this year 16 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:28,350 because we all see what happened in the 3rd of January 17 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:35,150 area this year with the young man when we are praying for him, you know, that we need 18 00:01:35,150 --> 00:01:40,730 a miracle and we see the miracle. He's alive. So let us pray right now. 19 00:01:41,850 --> 00:01:51,170 Un consejo que les quiero dar, David lideró de tres maneras. David lideró matando un gigante 20 00:01:51,170 --> 00:01:56,230 con una piedra y fue una de sus grandes victorias. 21 00:01:56,870 --> 00:02:03,770 La segunda manera de David liderar fue con su espada, aprendí a pelear, pero la tercera 22 00:02:03,770 --> 00:02:09,730 manera es la que yo creo que Dios les ha dado a ustedes es liderar con el cerebro, con la 23 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:12,510 mente, con las decisiones y con la experiencia. 24 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:18,890 Son mi oraciones para que Dios nos guie y tomemos las mejores decisiones en este lugar 25 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:21,850 que serán para el beneficio de nuestra ciudad. 26 00:02:22,870 --> 00:02:26,670 Can you stand up and let us pray? 27 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:30,770 Heavenly Father, we ask you to be here with us. 28 00:02:31,930 --> 00:02:33,570 We ask for your presence. 29 00:02:34,210 --> 00:02:35,310 We ask for your guidance. 30 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:40,390 And we give you thanks, Father, for everything you're going to do here. 31 00:02:41,130 --> 00:02:43,330 And the name of Jesus, we pray, Father. 32 00:02:44,290 --> 00:02:44,510 Amen. 33 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Thank you, Pastor. 34 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:54,910 This time we'll go out with item number five. 35 00:02:55,610 --> 00:02:57,950 Item number five is Citizens Comments on Agenda. 36 00:02:58,190 --> 00:03:00,710 Citizens Comments will be heard as posted on the agenda. 37 00:03:00,950 --> 00:03:03,550 Citizens Comments, providing items not posted on the agenda, 38 00:03:04,010 --> 00:03:07,830 shall be heard at the end of the agenda items prior to entering executive session. 39 00:03:08,310 --> 00:03:09,950 Please limit remarks to three minutes. 40 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:14,190 Topics of operational concerns shall be directed to the city manager. 41 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:17,410 Comments should not personally attack other speakers. 42 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:21,280 We have four of them signed up. 43 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,760 I believe those are all for the public hearing, which is coming up next. 44 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:28,580 Well, I got one since airline and concerns. 45 00:03:30,580 --> 00:03:30,980 Do 46 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:33,740 you want to? 47 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:43,360 We can go on. So once we get to the agenda item, if that particular person is here to speak, she or he will speak to the item. 48 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:47,040 And you're concerned with the item on 49 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,620 conductor hearing for the request on the zoning, or do you have something else, Ms. 50 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:52,860 Aguilar? 51 00:03:57,510 --> 00:03:58,070 It's on that? 52 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:58,850 No. 53 00:03:59,130 --> 00:03:59,330 No? 54 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,460 Do you want to go ahead and step up to the mic, ma'am? 55 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,700 We'll take care of that under Item 14. 56 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,320 You want to come back on Item 14? 57 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Item 14 would be Citizens' Conference. 58 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,420 And the same thing with Carlos Cardenas, right? 59 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,340 Okay. 60 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:18,740 All right. 61 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:22,220 Go ahead and go with item 6. 62 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,140 Just the public hearing. 63 00:04:27,450 --> 00:04:30,530 Conduct the public hearing considering request 2302. 64 00:04:30,650 --> 00:04:31,670 Is that the one we're looking at? 65 00:04:31,870 --> 00:04:32,230 Yes, sir. 66 00:04:32,430 --> 00:04:35,950 So if you'd like to open the public hearing and then I'll read the item. 67 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:43,930 It is a zoning change for Javier Curry. 68 00:04:44,330 --> 00:04:47,430 A lot eight, block 11, Ranch 3, South Texas. 69 00:04:47,910 --> 00:04:50,470 The request changed for the commercial first, 70 00:04:50,470 --> 00:04:59,890 high district, C2A, commercial second height, and it's 635 and we're going to go ahead and 71 00:04:59,890 --> 00:05:04,370 open this public hearing. Do we have the first speaker? 72 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:05,430 Yes, sir. 73 00:05:06,030 --> 00:05:06,510 Your name? 74 00:05:07,010 --> 00:05:13,770 Maria Martinez. I'm the owner of the Learning Express right next to the Cantina. If I 75 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:16,030 May I pass these out for just pictures? 76 00:05:16,450 --> 00:05:16,690 Yeah. 77 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:53,560 I'm here in opposition of the cantona 78 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:54,980 opening next to our daycare. 79 00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:01,820 And just want to briefly explain some of the reasons why. 80 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,380 First of all, if you can see, 81 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:11,990 by opening if we allow this cantona to open 82 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:13,030 next to our daycare, 83 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:14,970 we've been there for almost 30 years now. 84 00:06:15,530 --> 00:06:16,850 A little bit more than 30 years 85 00:06:16,850 --> 00:06:23,370 And we've ranged from 40 to 80 kids at times. 86 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:26,290 We have 40 something families that we provide a service to. 87 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:34,910 And if you can see on the pictures, the Cantina has been working at that building for a while now. 88 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:39,170 They have set fires where they burn stuff. 89 00:06:39,710 --> 00:06:40,970 You have one of the pictures there. 90 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,700 They've been working, as far as I know, from a member of the city. 91 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:55,800 He has not required gotten permits for any of the jobs that he's done, that he's been doing now. 92 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:59,000 He's built a fence without any permits. 93 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:01,520 He's put up the sign without any permits. 94 00:07:02,620 --> 00:07:08,300 And just to briefly explain a little bit about what my parents are concerned about is that 95 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:13,860 But if this container does open next to the daycare and opens during work hours, 96 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,400 there's going to be drunk people there. 97 00:07:16,860 --> 00:07:21,640 They can throw bottles, cans, drugs, syringes. 98 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:24,280 Who knows what can happen? 99 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,580 Drunk driving, going through the fence. 100 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,760 The only thing that divides us is a four-link fence. 101 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:34,980 That's the only thing that divides us. 102 00:07:34,980 --> 00:07:40,320 There's no, not one foot, there's just the fence that's there. 103 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:52,540 And we did, just let me briefly read this because I'm not too good at talking without reading. 104 00:07:53,800 --> 00:08:01,140 Our center houses more than 40 families to 76 children ranging from four to 13 years old. 105 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:03,260 We're more than a daycare center. 106 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,600 We are the second home to these children. 107 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,900 At the Learning Express Center, everyone is treated as a family. 108 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:13,980 Our parents drop off their children every morning, going out to make a living. 109 00:08:14,380 --> 00:08:20,460 They leave them with a kiss and a see you later and go on to work with no worries, knowing they are in good hands. 110 00:08:20,820 --> 00:08:25,080 With a place selling liquor next door, no parents feel safe dropping off their children. 111 00:08:25,620 --> 00:08:34,140 Knowing that men and women intoxicated may come near our playground due to both buildings being only less than a chain link fence from each other. 112 00:08:34,140 --> 00:08:38,180 with simply a tiny four foot fence dividing the property. 113 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,300 Easily anyone leaving his premises may throw bottles, drugs, 114 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,480 expose themselves to our children. 115 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,120 We will be risking sex offenders, violent customers, 116 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,660 fights breaking out around our children. 117 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,500 And let's not forget him not having the parking. 118 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:57,820 Mayor, the three minutes has expired. 119 00:09:00,460 --> 00:09:02,080 The three minutes are over? 120 00:09:02,140 --> 00:09:02,400 Yes, sir. 121 00:09:02,860 --> 00:09:03,780 Okay, thank you. 122 00:09:04,020 --> 00:09:04,400 Thank you. 123 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Thank you for your time. 124 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,220 Next person, Aaron Rodriguez. 125 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,300 Mr. Mayor, may I approach the next floor quick? 126 00:09:17,420 --> 00:09:17,620 Sure. 127 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:20,860 Unfortunately, I didn't come very prepared 128 00:09:20,860 --> 00:09:22,920 to give everybody a copy, but I would 129 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,180 like to present one to the city attorney 130 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:27,920 and to our city secretary, Mr. Borsla. 131 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:29,720 So they're going to be put into the record. 132 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:35,710 My name's Aaron Rodriguez, and although I'm not 133 00:09:35,710 --> 00:09:40,730 an immediate neighbor of the learning express, 134 00:09:40,730 --> 00:09:47,110 I am a parent of a student of a child of the Learning Express. 135 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:58,750 And what I presented to the city attorney and the city secretary today is references to alcohol beverage code chapter 11. 136 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:07,530 And if I may present that this part of the law states that a general denial can be held and I refer to you to the sections that I highlighted in here. 137 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:14,990 Under 11.46 Section 8, the place or manner in which the applicant may conduct the applicant's business 138 00:10:14,990 --> 00:10:21,090 warrants a denial of the application for a permit based on the general welfare, health, peace, 139 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:27,890 morals and safety of the people and on the public sense of decency. As you know this is right 140 00:10:27,890 --> 00:10:29,750 next to a daycare. 141 00:10:32,190 --> 00:10:35,510 Section 12, the applicant does not provide an adequate building available 142 00:10:35,510 --> 00:10:39,230 board that address for which the permit is sought before conducting any activity 143 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:47,870 authorized by his permit. As you all may have seen or driven by this home, it is 144 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:50,690 not an adequate place to have what they want to conduct. 145 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:54,840 If we move on to a 146 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:01,620 section 11.431, and this actually applies to larger municipalities, over 147 00:11:01,620 --> 00:11:06,800 one million, but I feel like this applies to our city as well, to our 148 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:12,880 community. Any point to the property line of the premise is less than 300 feet from the 149 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:20,580 nearest point on a property line of a residence, church, school, hospital, daycare facility 150 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:27,940 or social service facility as measured in a straight line. If I may counsel, this is 151 00:11:27,940 --> 00:11:34,600 right next to a daycare center. The only division is a chain link fence. 152 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:37,440 I ask if 153 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,900 If you had children there or grandchildren, would you feel that this is acceptable? 154 00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:45,450 Thank you for your time. 155 00:11:47,310 --> 00:11:48,310 Thank you, Mr. Leis. 156 00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:53,470 I think those are the only two that signed up. 157 00:11:55,030 --> 00:11:59,550 We'll go ahead and close at 642, 158 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:03,330 and we'll go ahead and close this public hearing. 159 00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:05,970 And we'll proceed with item, 160 00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:09,930 is it I? 161 00:12:10,170 --> 00:12:11,210 Item 6-1. 162 00:12:11,210 --> 00:12:20,570 I'm sorry, 681, ordinance 2023-005 in ordinance in accordance with the Del Rio City Charter 163 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:27,690 and State Law providing for the rezoning of 1009 South Main, Law 8, Block 11, Range 3, 164 00:12:28,130 --> 00:12:33,810 South Del Rio from Commercial First Heights District C-2-8 to Commercial Second Heights 165 00:12:33,810 --> 00:12:38,130 District C-2-V within the city of Del Rio, Texas. 166 00:12:39,130 --> 00:12:42,010 Do I have a motion on the console, on the dais? 167 00:12:51,850 --> 00:12:54,250 Mr. Mayor, I actually have two questions. 168 00:12:54,450 --> 00:12:56,590 Not sure if Ms. Poe-Crant would be the appropriate person. 169 00:12:57,830 --> 00:13:01,010 But, one, this has come before us before. 170 00:13:01,610 --> 00:13:04,130 It should be a simple yes or no. 171 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:08,550 Has anything changed from the previous time when we disapproved this? 172 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:11,790 Yes. Good evening, Janice Poe-Crant, City Planner. 173 00:13:12,090 --> 00:13:14,970 There is nothing that we're presenting to you today that has changed. 174 00:13:14,970 --> 00:13:24,710 Okay. Thank you. And then the second question related to the work that has been done, have any permit requests been pulled for the work that has been done? 175 00:13:25,470 --> 00:13:27,050 And I'm not sure who would. 176 00:13:27,410 --> 00:13:32,450 Well, I have Mr. Kinsey here if you have any other questions, but no, there's not any permits that have been pulled for the work. 177 00:13:32,610 --> 00:13:33,470 Okay. Thank you. 178 00:13:36,670 --> 00:13:44,410 Well, not having a motion, I think this dies. So we'll go ahead and move forward with item 7. 179 00:13:45,790 --> 00:13:56,070 So item 7a is regarding travel, so I'm going to read each item, and then one motion will take care of all these items. 180 00:13:56,610 --> 00:14:02,250 So 7a is authorized and approved, Councilman James Theroux to attend the Texas Municipal League 181 00:14:02,250 --> 00:14:07,990 mid-year conference March 2nd through the 3rd of 2023 in San Antonio, Texas. 182 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:15,210 Texas. Item 7B is Authorized and Approved Councilman Stephen T. Webb and Jesus Lopez, Jr., to attend 183 00:14:15,210 --> 00:14:19,470 the legislative wrap-up work session June 14th through the 15th in Georgetown, Texas. 184 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:25,710 Item 7C, Authorized and Approved Councilperson Irnestina Martinez to attend the Texas Municipal 185 00:14:25,710 --> 00:14:30,730 League Meteor Conference March 2nd through the 3rd, 2023 in San Antonio, Texas. 186 00:14:31,810 --> 00:14:36,850 Item 7D, Authorized and Approved Councilperson Stephen T. Webb and Councilperson Jesus 187 00:14:36,850 --> 00:14:43,670 to attend the Texas Municipal League Mid-Year Conference March 2nd through the 3rd 2023 in San Antonio, Texas. 188 00:14:44,030 --> 00:14:53,790 Item 7E, authorize and approve Mayor Al Ariola to attend the Texas Municipal League Mid-Year Conference March 2nd through the 3rd 2023 in San Antonio, Texas. 189 00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:57,710 Do I have a motion and a dice to approve all travel for council? 190 00:14:58,030 --> 00:14:58,710 I'll make a motion. 191 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:09,080 I have a second. Second. Second for Mr. Sunch. Councilman Sunches. Any questions? Concerns? All in favor? 192 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,120 Aye. 193 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,340 Go to item E. 194 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:16,320 Can I make the item as item F? 195 00:15:21,130 --> 00:15:21,490 Go ahead. 196 00:15:21,690 --> 00:15:31,470 Okay. So item 7F is discussed in possible action on city council office at the transportation building. Councilman Jesus Lopez. 197 00:15:33,510 --> 00:15:41,610 Well, yes. I brought this item up for the simple reason that I've experienced this firsthand 198 00:15:43,150 --> 00:15:49,850 with McCud, with my sister-in-law and my nephew. When I see a transportation building that 199 00:15:49,850 --> 00:15:58,370 the city made for transportation, that means trains, buses, taxis, whatever kind of means 200 00:15:58,370 --> 00:16:02,710 transportation we have for our constituents. When I saw that there's 201 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:09,350 no no waiting waiting room no more for any of those services especially the 202 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:16,850 train the train that still goes through Del Rio and I was there I mean it was 203 00:16:16,850 --> 00:16:22,890 weather it was windy raining the train came people getting wet getting their 204 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:27,390 feet wet nowhere to protect them nowhere to wait from the car run 205 00:16:27,390 --> 00:16:30,670 straight to the conductors, wherever they're loading and unloading. 206 00:16:31,630 --> 00:16:33,450 So I saw where they're loading and unloading. 207 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:40,650 And as I came aware, being counsel and being aware of the areas, well, I noticed that there 208 00:16:40,650 --> 00:16:44,770 was a constituent office there at the Transportation Office. 209 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:52,210 And that office is right there in the double doors where they depart and arrive. 210 00:16:53,250 --> 00:17:01,470 So I saw no issues or concerns, possibly maybe, to give those passengers an area of waiting, 211 00:17:02,150 --> 00:17:05,030 you know, by the train arrives and departs. 212 00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:08,450 And it's a convenience to the citizens. 213 00:17:08,970 --> 00:17:11,010 It's a convenience to those that come to Doreal on a train. 214 00:17:11,630 --> 00:17:16,930 I'm pretty sure people like to take trains instead of buses or planes, or travel in vehicles. 215 00:17:17,530 --> 00:17:19,310 But I experienced firsthand. 216 00:17:19,310 --> 00:17:23,170 And I'm not saying open that area 24 hours. 217 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:28,630 I'm just saying open it only at the time of arrival and departure with the trains. 218 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:34,790 And have somebody there to open and close that area or that part of the building 219 00:17:34,790 --> 00:17:36,990 only for the train at that particular time. 220 00:17:37,850 --> 00:17:40,970 We can still have it as a constituent office during the day. 221 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:45,610 The train only comes, I think, twice a week, but it comes in mid mornings. 222 00:17:46,350 --> 00:17:47,430 It's not during the day. 223 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:53,450 is very rare. So I think if we had an area where we can work from the train 224 00:17:54,030 --> 00:18:00,610 passengers to wait and arrive because even if the train is delayed when I went 225 00:18:00,610 --> 00:18:05,030 back that day they were still there the train was delayed almost five hours and 226 00:18:05,030 --> 00:18:08,610 when I went back to check on them there was a girl sitting outside in the 227 00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:13,330 fence sitting in the suitcase and she's been sitting there since mid 228 00:18:13,330 --> 00:18:19,410 morning, waiting for the train, nowhere to go. So when I went and opened up that particular 229 00:18:19,410 --> 00:18:26,890 part of the office to check on my cousin, my sister-in-law, right away there were some other 230 00:18:26,890 --> 00:18:31,290 people, sir do you have a restroom? People were just waiting there but they had nowhere 231 00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:35,030 to go to restrooms. And I'm pretty sure they didn't want to leave and then come 232 00:18:35,030 --> 00:18:37,750 back and find out that the train's already gone because they went to the restroom 233 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:42,590 somewhere else. So I saw no inconvenience in just opening it up at the time and 234 00:18:42,590 --> 00:18:51,630 departures of the train and maybe assist or give authorization maybe to the city manager 235 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:57,970 to ask Amtrak to see if they're willing to pay for a person just to open that area for 236 00:18:58,510 --> 00:19:03,030 one hour or whatever it takes for the train to arrive and depart, only on those particular 237 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:03,710 days and hours. 238 00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:08,310 And that was my little concern because I experienced it first. 239 00:19:09,390 --> 00:19:14,630 And I think if we protect them while they're waiting on their train, give them services 240 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:19,470 for them to do the restroom because they're drinking water or the train's delayed and nobody 241 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:20,210 wants to leave. 242 00:19:20,830 --> 00:19:25,430 Because I'm pretty sure it's very inconvenient to just wait in the car for hours or just 243 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:27,610 wait in there and see if hopefully the train will come or not. 244 00:19:28,690 --> 00:19:31,910 You know unless they can leave them there and then they can go home and go to bed 245 00:19:32,790 --> 00:19:34,650 and be in contact with them by phone. 246 00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:40,930 trains here, trains gone or whatever. But that's all because I feel that they're 247 00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:44,850 working on the train right now, they're working right now on the 248 00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:48,930 transportation of the train for Amtrak. They're building a sidewalk where 249 00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:53,550 they're improving the area for Amtrak. And I think we can help them out a 250 00:19:53,550 --> 00:19:56,490 little bit in improving ourselves and give them a little service of 251 00:19:56,490 --> 00:20:00,930 protection and awaiting area. And if they're doing that maybe we can 252 00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:05,170 convenience of them in a little bit and having something for them to weigh in. 253 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:08,670 That's all I wanted to see. 254 00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:17,270 Do you want to give, I guess, the directives to John to look into the process and everything? 255 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:22,850 Well, the other thing that comes to my concern is I know that some council members use it 256 00:20:22,850 --> 00:20:25,350 and I know there's some electrical equipment in there, 257 00:20:26,010 --> 00:20:30,990 But I don't see why to talk to a citizen, you would have to take them there. 258 00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:34,670 When we don't need a printer, we don't need computers. 259 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:38,710 You got a laptop, you got whatever you want to talk to them about. 260 00:20:39,370 --> 00:20:43,990 But the thing is, I'm not concerned about the electronics in there. 261 00:20:44,050 --> 00:20:47,910 There's a person responsible waiting there for them to come in and go out 262 00:20:47,910 --> 00:20:49,410 and we're going to lock it in and open it. 263 00:20:49,870 --> 00:20:51,870 So nobody's going to mess around with anything. 264 00:20:52,530 --> 00:20:54,950 You mean the console they use it? 265 00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:57,530 The council uses it for whatever reasons. 266 00:20:58,430 --> 00:21:02,130 My thing is, if you want to talk to a constituent to me, 267 00:21:02,650 --> 00:21:04,330 I would say, OK, where do you want to meet? 268 00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:05,330 Your house? 269 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:08,350 River City, somewhere, you know? 270 00:21:09,330 --> 00:21:12,590 But because when I ran and asked for their vote, 271 00:21:13,390 --> 00:21:15,590 I didn't tell them there's a constituent office come see me. 272 00:21:16,130 --> 00:21:19,090 I went to their house at their time, their convenience. 273 00:21:19,090 --> 00:21:26,150 you know, but it's a convenience, but to some people it's an inconvenience that 274 00:21:26,150 --> 00:21:30,910 there's no place to be protected out of the weather and using restroom at least. 275 00:21:32,010 --> 00:21:35,870 I think Councilman Webb wants to interject some things here, sir. 276 00:21:36,430 --> 00:21:41,210 First off, that is not a transportation building. That is a city building. 277 00:21:42,590 --> 00:21:47,470 The bus station and everybody pulled out of that building years ago. 278 00:21:47,470 --> 00:21:54,950 I don't know why the city took it over right now it has media on one end we 279 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:59,870 have local transportation on the other end we're fixing to open the incubator 280 00:21:59,870 --> 00:22:07,730 and we have council's office I have found over the time that we finally got 281 00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:13,010 the office available to us I have met with many constituents in that office 282 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:18,290 office to discuss things. They call me, ask to meet. I tell them I have the office. They 283 00:22:18,290 --> 00:22:23,150 said, great. They meet me there because I like the privacy. They like someplace they can 284 00:22:23,150 --> 00:22:27,810 go that they feel safe to talk and discuss what they want to talk about. The other 285 00:22:27,810 --> 00:22:31,590 thing is that building is not secure all the way through. 286 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:35,810 The end has media. They 287 00:22:35,810 --> 00:22:42,250 lock there in but the rest of the building from the new incubator office 288 00:22:42,250 --> 00:22:50,820 all the way through the doors don't lock so by opening that building even for a 289 00:22:50,820 --> 00:22:54,200 short time you've got to have people wandering around and we'll have 290 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,420 availability from the local transportation in all the way through 291 00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:04,500 the incubator and there'll be no telling what goes in there because if it's 292 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:08,920 open. We have transients. We have people that sleep around the train station at 293 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:15,800 night. It's not our responsibility to provide for the railroad. The railroad 294 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,600 needs to be approached to put up lights or awnings or whatever it is for the 295 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,640 people that ride the train. It's not the cities. 296 00:23:26,110 --> 00:23:28,530 So I use the office. Ms. 297 00:23:28,810 --> 00:23:33,630 Calderona's use the office. Raul Ojeda, when he was on board, he used the 298 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:41,050 office. Some people said they didn't even know we had one, which I'd be more than willing 299 00:23:41,050 --> 00:23:46,310 to show it to you. Get your key for whatever if we decide to keep it. But we can't open 300 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:50,010 that building to the public. Who's going to pay the overtime for the guy to come down 301 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:54,810 and open up the building? And if the train's five hours late, that's five hours of overtime. 302 00:23:55,050 --> 00:24:00,390 You pay somebody to come in there and open a building, and he can't watch anybody 303 00:24:00,390 --> 00:24:04,290 everybody, what direction they're going to go in. It's not safe. It's not warranted. 304 00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:09,390 It's been going on for years the way it's been going on and it's worked, like I say, 305 00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:14,070 the railroad is who has to be convinced to do something for the people. They took over 306 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:18,670 the property outside and started construction. I don't know what the construction is. I 307 00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:23,910 don't think they're just building a sidewalk. The platform looks too big. Are they building 308 00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:30,550 building and overhang? Are they putting benches? I don't know. But the railroad has taken over 309 00:24:30,550 --> 00:24:33,430 part of it. It's their responsibility. It's not ours. 310 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,000 And the answer? 311 00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:38,800 No. 312 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,300 Anybody else? 313 00:24:41,660 --> 00:24:45,720 I'm not talking about the whole building. There's only the constituents, the hallway 314 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,680 and the bathroom. And those doors can be added. You can add a lock to it. There's 315 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,280 no such thing as inconvenience. I mean, I'm secure. 316 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,500 Are you going to pay $500 per lock? 317 00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:56,860 Are you sure they're $500? 318 00:24:56,980 --> 00:24:59,060 I'm not going to approve $500 per lot. 319 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:00,720 Right now it is secure. 320 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,980 Right now, we don't have to worry about opening it up 321 00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:06,460 at night and allowing anyone in that building. 322 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,860 We know it's secure when we leave at 5 o'clock or 6 or whatever. 323 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:12,620 I've been down there at 9 o'clock. 324 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,700 I know it's secure when I walk out the door. 325 00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:18,380 Well, I'm not your friend. 326 00:25:19,220 --> 00:25:20,440 Just say restrooms. 327 00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:24,000 The restrooms, one side is for employees, 328 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,060 employees, and the other side used to be for when they used to have a bus station there, 329 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,920 that's what it was for. But that's not what it's for today, it's for the other employees. 330 00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:38,370 It's not open to the public. 331 00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:43,620 And like I say, if that building can't be secured at $500 332 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:52,100 a lock, and I know of four doors right now that would require locks right there in 333 00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:57,660 that hallway to be secured and we're going to have computers and everything else in the 334 00:25:57,660 --> 00:26:01,980 Incubation Office. Oh, I need to go to the bathroom. You go in there, you can open the 335 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:03,820 door and go right into that incubator. 336 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,300 Now, that's not, that's not good business. 337 00:26:10,620 --> 00:26:18,600 I just want to add we haven't mentioned liability here. Yeah. That is also have to consider 338 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,660 that liability, because it will fall under the city. Now in the 339 00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:29,040 rubble, that's a thought tool to y'all's decision. 340 00:26:32,020 --> 00:26:36,620 So liability, you're talking about liability. There's no, to me, there's 341 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:40,620 no liability in putting people in a safe area while waiting inside. 342 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,640 And I'm not talking about the whole building. I'm talking about three areas, 343 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,620 and it's very, so we ought to change that transportation. 344 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320 Liability can fall under too many things, too many things. 345 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,820 We don't know, but we have to have that in mind. 346 00:26:55,460 --> 00:26:56,240 We always do. 347 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,300 Everybody does. 348 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,000 The library goes with anything we make and build. 349 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,500 Everything goes with liability. 350 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,340 That's all for me. 351 00:27:05,020 --> 00:27:05,400 Thank you. 352 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,880 Councilman Lopez, I guess I'm trying to listen, 353 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,480 but I think it would be wise for John to, 354 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,660 like Councilman Webb mentioned, 355 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:21,940 and their platforms that they're building are pretty wide. 356 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,720 There could be some structures that they're going to put 357 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,280 together for the purposes that you're saying. 358 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,020 It's something that John can investigate and find out for us 359 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:32,160 and bring it back to us. 360 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,740 And there's pros and cons on this because obviously there's 361 00:27:39,740 --> 00:27:42,500 only Amtrak that right now goes through Del Rio. 362 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:44,660 We don't have a bus depot. 363 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,820 We don't have anything else. 364 00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:49,080 but that's for the future to see where we're going. 365 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,640 I think right now would be, like I said, 366 00:27:51,860 --> 00:27:54,740 I'll go back and re-estate, have John investigate 367 00:27:54,740 --> 00:27:57,820 what Amtrak is doing, and then he can bring it back 368 00:27:57,820 --> 00:28:01,160 to us and inform us, and if there's anything else. 369 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,940 I understand that that is a historical marker also, 370 00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:07,760 and we have to be very careful 371 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,720 of what we put around the building itself. 372 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:17,260 right so there's there's something to look at and I think we'll just proceed on 373 00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:21,320 keeping the information or the communication going with Amtrak and 374 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:30,100 yes sir I have a question for Mr. Sheedy it's okay Mr. Sheedy how many times does 375 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:37,300 Amtrak actually stop in the real is it once a day once a week twice a week do 376 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:43,040 we have a schedule? Do we know? Yes sir we do know at least the last I think it's 377 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,080 the sunset route I'd ask for some information I believe it's a it's 378 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,580 scheduled for three times a week. Three times a week. Sunday, Wednesday, and Friday. 379 00:28:54,200 --> 00:29:01,380 And the arrival time shows to be 1.02 a.m. in Del Rio that's that's the 380 00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:02,620 scheduled arrival time. 381 00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:06,100 I don't know. 382 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,060 Councilman Lofton, you said there was some in the mid-morning? 383 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:11,840 Yeah, sometimes departure at 4.30 in the morning. 384 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Arrivals at a certain time and departures 385 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,500 another with another train. 386 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,940 They arrive here at 2 and they leave at 4. 387 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,080 I think so. 388 00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:20,780 Yeah. 389 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,060 Yes, sir. 390 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:29,640 Mr. Sheedy, how many citizens utilize this Amtrak? 391 00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:34,020 that's one thing councilman we it's hard for us we tried to work with Amtrak to 392 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:37,340 see if we could kind of get ticket counts or something we really don't have a 393 00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:41,220 good number on I'd like I'd like to know that number because if I'm gonna 394 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:47,340 approve investing in somebody like that I wanted I wanted to go for the 395 00:29:47,340 --> 00:29:51,940 betterment of more citizen and not just a small group of people I've been 396 00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:56,020 here for over 60 years and I've never used Amtrak that's not putting 397 00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:57,320 than anybody else down, you know. 398 00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:05,920 You've got to get someplace and you've got to get someplace right now, you'll take a vehicle or a plane or something like that. 399 00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:10,600 But when these are for Mr. Sheehy, please. 400 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:18,160 When you get back with the other information, if you could include something like that, I would appreciate it very much. 401 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,420 It would help me make my decision. 402 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,580 Okay, we tried. We made an effort to get that information abstract, but we'll have a little more time. Councilman, we'll get that for you. 403 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,520 Thank you, Mr. Sheehy. 404 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Councilwoman Martinez. 405 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:43,820 Yes, I think that you should contact Amtrak also, find out, maybe they can provide some kind of services because they're the ones that are doing the traveling and benefit from that. 406 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,360 And I do know of some people that travel almost every year on Amtrak. 407 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:57,400 And of course, like you mentioned, sometimes they're not on time, but we do need to provide something for the citizens. 408 00:30:57,860 --> 00:31:09,900 But at the same time, talk to them, maybe you can come to some kind of an agreement where they can provide some kind of shelter or something while they're waiting for the train to come in. 409 00:31:10,740 --> 00:31:13,180 So I think that would be the best thing to do. 410 00:31:13,180 --> 00:31:17,900 talk to them and find out what their views are on that and what they can do. 411 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,760 Maybe they're willing to do something. I don't know. 412 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:22,800 No, absolutely, ma'am. That's great. I think we'll do that. 413 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,160 Thank you. 414 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,180 No more. 415 00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,320 Jim, kind of quiet today. 416 00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:28,400 Okay. 417 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:29,800 Jesse, is that it? 418 00:31:30,260 --> 00:31:30,800 That's it, sir. 419 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:31,200 Okay. 420 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:32,700 Any other comments? 421 00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:33,820 No? 422 00:31:34,220 --> 00:31:34,400 Okay. 423 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,160 At this time, I would love to move the executive session up forward because 424 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,600 is we have somebody waiting in the console chamber. 425 00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:47,740 Is there any way we can, would anybody object 426 00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:50,540 to moving the executive session up forward? 427 00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:52,870 No? 428 00:31:53,890 --> 00:31:56,810 Any objections on moving the executive session? 429 00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:59,090 Marty, we're gonna go into executive session, 430 00:31:59,430 --> 00:32:02,550 so it'll be A, B, and I think C. 431 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:06,110 All right, so executive session, 432 00:32:06,490 --> 00:32:09,730 item 15A, attorney consultation pursuant 433 00:32:09,730 --> 00:32:11,790 to section 551.071. 434 00:32:11,790 --> 00:32:17,270 1, Texas government code to receive legal advice and counsel on connection with city 435 00:32:17,270 --> 00:32:23,370 rights, duties, privileges, obligations under Chapter 143 and 142 of the Texas local government 436 00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:28,650 code as related to contract negotiations between the City of Del Rio Fire Professional Firefighters 437 00:32:28,650 --> 00:32:36,450 Association, Item 15B pursuant to Texas government code Section 551.072, Deliberation 438 00:32:36,450 --> 00:32:40,890 on Matters Concerning Real Property to Deliberate the Purchased Exchange Lease or 439 00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:46,830 value of real property in deliberation. If deliberation in open meeting would have a detrimental 440 00:32:46,830 --> 00:32:52,290 effect on the position of the government body in negotiations with a third person for city 441 00:32:52,290 --> 00:32:57,190 projects. And item 15c, the city council for the city of Del Rio will meet an executive 442 00:32:57,190 --> 00:33:02,470 session pursuant to Texas government code section 551.071, consultation with the 443 00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:09,130 attorney to deliberate and discuss pending litigation related to just contracting LLC 444 00:33:09,130 --> 00:33:13,970 versus City of Del Rio in the 83rd Judicial District Court, Valverde County, Texas. 445 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,800 It's 7.03 and this council will go into executive session 446 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,900 and there was no action taken. 447 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,300 At this time we'll go ahead and proceed with item 9, the finances. 448 00:33:34,340 --> 00:33:37,780 I think we have number 8, City Manager Informational Update. 449 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,480 City Manager Informational Update? 450 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,040 Quick and easy. 451 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,600 Thank you, Mayor and Council. Yes. We just want to really quickly on the airline. 452 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,360 We have submitted our letter for signatures. 453 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,520 We're collecting a lot of signatures right now. 454 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,320 That effort's going really good. 455 00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:58,020 So we're going to pull those back and put them all into one letter. 456 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,120 We're continuing our communications. 457 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160 We're working with our representatives in our lobbyists in D.C. and Austin. 458 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:09,680 We've been supplying a lot of data, both as far as passenger counts 459 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,400 and financial impact on the region. 460 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,100 Mr. Ramon has been getting a lot of information for us on the impact in Mexico and other parts 461 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:18,640 of our region. 462 00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:24,520 We're looking at our Routes America conference that's scheduled to be March 21st and 22nd 463 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:24,760 in Chicago. 464 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,780 We're really excited about that because all the regional and national carriers are going 465 00:34:29,780 --> 00:34:30,300 to be there. 466 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,620 It's a perfect opportunity for us to take. 467 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,720 We're going to set up a tent, have our city staff there. 468 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:37,180 Mr. Onofre, Mr. 469 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,420 Ramon, and Ms. Mariner will be attending. 470 00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:45,080 And then we're going to set up all of our promotional. 471 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:47,900 Our lobbyist tells us that this is an excellent opportunity 472 00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:50,080 for us to really see all the airlines, 473 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,940 to have a chance to meet and visit with all of them. 474 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,120 One thing we're kind of excited today, 475 00:34:58,260 --> 00:35:00,580 the mayor and I and Mr. Ramon and Mr. Onofre 476 00:35:00,580 --> 00:35:01,940 went to a meeting at the fort. 477 00:35:01,940 --> 00:35:11,780 work, and we've come across some new opportunity for hopefully to greatly maximize our cargo 478 00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:15,820 that we have coming into our airport. We're really excited. It looks like we're going to 479 00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:23,280 be able to work to try and make Del Rio International a cargo destination as well. We've completed 480 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,520 our tentative itinerary for our Del Rio Valverde legislative days, which is the 481 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,040 same day as the conference in Chicago, March 21st and 22nd. 482 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:35,560 And we'll be sending that out to the entities tomorrow so that 483 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,960 we can start getting counts from all the entities of who they 484 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,700 want to attend. 485 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,480 What's important for us right now is just to get counts of 486 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,760 attendees so we can finalize the schedule with our DC 487 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,360 lobbyists. 488 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,660 Meetings are being set up with the agencies and the 489 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:53,420 responsibilities for all the agencies with the 490 00:35:53,420 --> 00:35:56,400 responsibilities based on the entity's priorities. 491 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,640 So we just want Council to think about that, 492 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:04,380 who may want to attend and just think about it a little bit. 493 00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:05,900 We'll be reaching out to all of our Council. 494 00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:08,340 On the Second International Bridge is really quick. 495 00:36:09,140 --> 00:36:12,180 SMB is meeting with, they're still meeting with a couple of 496 00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:15,620 the large landowners and we're just kind of... 497 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:25,680 19 loans that the city currently has outstanding. 498 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,900 Again, the par amount of all those loans is $80,460,000. 499 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,580 And we do have that broken out by funding source. 500 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,600 We also have a show there, the call dates. 501 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:46,960 What we try to do periodically is review the outstanding portfolio 502 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,480 and try to identify it 503 00:38:57,020 --> 00:39:00,080 and we find ourselves in a higher interest rate environment 504 00:39:02,420 --> 00:39:09,140 So while we do recognize that there are some outstanding series that are eligible to be 505 00:39:09,140 --> 00:39:14,340 called away, we kind of looked at those who can't really see what it makes economic sense 506 00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:19,880 to recommend that the city of this point step forward with a group connection transaction. 507 00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:24,620 That doesn't mean that you still won't monitor that as late as kind of movement. 508 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:40,430 Our hope is that maybe by mid-year, we start to see some better summaries that we will get a head around in quite possibly by the end of the year that maybe starts moving in the opposite direction. 509 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:55,570 One item at the top, city's bond rating, again, just as a reminder, the city carries a AA rating by all three rating agencies. 510 00:39:56,710 --> 00:40:03,030 AA3 by Moody's, S&P is rating an A- and Pitch and a AA rating. 511 00:40:03,390 --> 00:40:04,970 A very strong investment grant rating. 512 00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:07,170 What does that mean with the next year? 513 00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:10,130 It means that the city can go out of bond and capital markets. 514 00:40:10,130 --> 00:40:15,870 And in those cases, we don't have to pursue a paid-for private bond insurance. 515 00:40:16,410 --> 00:40:17,310 Because there's just a lot of 516 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:35,300 slide four that follows outlines the utility for water and sewer. 517 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:41,780 And we put that in there because part of this large-duration agreement we're going to show here in a minute 518 00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:47,740 includes about 5 million that would be self-support on water and wastewater system. 519 00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:56,220 And so, as you can see there, we have about 18 of the 19 of those that were shown previously 520 00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:59,800 have some poisonous blue paint from water and soar. 521 00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:01,800 So the rest of those are not for you. 522 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,400 But really the take away here is the green. 523 00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:11,160 The red line represents the revenues available to service the debt 524 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:20,960 And kind of the gray and no shade of colors represent the data that's expanded and supported by the system. 525 00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:26,760 So in a nutshell, revenues are quite substantial and more than covered. 526 00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:38,110 As we move along, we kind of addressed the parts of the presentation that we're giving to the planet right now. 527 00:41:38,310 --> 00:41:45,750 And I'm now working at slide six, where with this proposed issuance of general address default projects 528 00:41:46,510 --> 00:41:56,590 improvements to the animal care facility, drain into the utility improvements, street sidewalk improvements, park projects, and of course some water system improvements. 529 00:41:57,470 --> 00:42:11,990 All of those were total $27 million. And so with this issue, it will raise $27 million. Now slide 7 kind of shows us how we raise that money and what we do with it. 530 00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:22,650 So essentially the par amount of bonds that will issue is $26 million, or what we're proposing is $26 million, $150,000. 531 00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:32,410 We anticipate being able to generate approximately $1.3 million worth of premium for a total sources of funds of $27.4 million. 532 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:42,110 Now, of that, we'll take $27 million, put that into a project fund to address the pre-identified project. 533 00:42:42,830 --> 00:42:48,930 The remainder will go towards expenses and additions of underwriters' discounts and things like that. 534 00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:53,070 They're paid for, respectively, through transaction such as loans. 535 00:42:54,010 --> 00:43:00,810 and essentially that the project balances out and raises the money at that time to show how this runs on the space. 536 00:43:02,170 --> 00:43:10,790 And the slide that follows, slide eight, we're going to show you a spreadsheet and some of you may be familiar with viewing this, 537 00:43:11,290 --> 00:43:16,150 but this essentially is a tax rate impact sheet prior to issuing any debt. 538 00:43:16,650 --> 00:43:19,750 And I'll kind of move through this from left to right. 539 00:43:20,350 --> 00:43:26,330 And that is the second column from the left, we show the net assessed valuation of the city. 540 00:43:27,570 --> 00:43:32,670 If we move over two more columns to the right, we show the current existing debt of the city. 541 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:34,190 And this is debt service. 542 00:43:34,450 --> 00:43:38,130 So this is, you might say, well, why is it different from what I saw in slide two? 543 00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:41,410 It's because this is principal and interest, the central interest of principal. 544 00:43:41,650 --> 00:43:44,930 So total debt service is in that fourth column from the left. 545 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:51,810 If we move over a little bit to the column that reads less existing self-supporting, 546 00:43:51,850 --> 00:43:56,410 we essentially take your total debt, we subtract out what's supported from enterprise phones, 547 00:43:57,270 --> 00:44:00,790 and we arrive at total net debt service requirements. 548 00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:05,810 And that column I'm reading is, let's see, four from the right. 549 00:44:07,690 --> 00:44:11,750 And so the column that is third from the right, total required, and that's tax rate, 550 00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:17,190 That essentially tells me what tax rate do we need to log into service in our annual debt payment. 551 00:44:17,810 --> 00:44:19,870 And again, this is prior to any issue. 552 00:44:20,070 --> 00:44:33,270 So if we flip the pet slide and go into slide nine, we see that we've now present the proposed structure of the 26.1 million CA. 553 00:44:34,090 --> 00:44:42,270 And so we see that that first green column represents the principal amount, which is $26,150,000. 554 00:44:43,150 --> 00:44:51,030 The interest associated with that is immediately next to it, and that totals to $15,461,598. 555 00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:58,230 So total debt service is that third green column, and total debt service comes out to the $41,576,590. 556 00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:59,950 No, it's... 557 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:09,660 Columns to the right. Again, total debt service plus what's existing. We subtract the 558 00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:14,700 debt service that's supported from enterprise funds, and we arrive at the total net debt 559 00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:18,840 service requirement of the session. The debt service that's going to be supported by the 560 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:27,600 INS. Now the total required tax rate, again, is there. And so as we see when this, we 561 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:34,660 start paying for this debt in fiscal 24, we show that effectively we would need the same 562 00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:40,320 amount of money. So another way of saying that is that we can issue this debt without really 563 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:46,980 changing the tax rate at all or certainly not increasing the same amount of tax money 564 00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:52,660 that's being assessed this year can support the payment next year. 565 00:45:52,820 --> 00:45:57,280 So there will be no effective increase needed to protect. 566 00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:11,110 Slide 10 shows us, again, kind of as a recap on the effect of the summary, that portfolio. 567 00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:18,810 So that first gray shaded column is, again, where we are in 2022, similar to what we showed you on slide 2. 568 00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:29,490 The column immediately to the right of that shows that what would happen if the city chose not to issue any debt this year. 569 00:46:30,090 --> 00:46:35,670 You would see how the balances kind of change in each funding column. 570 00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:44,930 And the last column there on the right effectively shows where we'll be post-issue after issuing the COs. 571 00:46:44,930 --> 00:46:57,010 So, you can see we're, you know, a little bit north of where we ended up in 29 to anticipate the totals here that to be there just at 98.949. 572 00:46:59,110 --> 00:47:06,610 And again, that's the value of tax rate increase to be able to do all of this. 573 00:47:07,830 --> 00:47:12,050 And the slide that follows, slide 11, we just show you the times timeline. 574 00:47:12,050 --> 00:47:15,930 This is, you know, not unlike other times that we've done COs. 575 00:47:16,110 --> 00:47:18,530 We usually can start to finish this process. 576 00:47:18,750 --> 00:47:20,390 We'll take it up about 90 days. 577 00:47:21,250 --> 00:47:24,230 Council decides to move forward with this. 578 00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:30,530 We'll begin working with city staff and Mr. Bottas to work on an offering document. 579 00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:37,470 We'll also schedule appointments to visit via phone call with bringing agencies. 580 00:47:37,470 --> 00:47:45,790 and would work to price the obligations in late March, and after a successful pricing 581 00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:52,870 would then work to close out the transaction, which we would anticipate being around mid-April 582 00:47:52,870 --> 00:48:00,610 on identifying the 2019 as a potential date to close, so all in we could have money to 583 00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:01,990 And 584 00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:13,030 finally, on slide 12, again, we just showed finance and team participants with the city of Del Rio 585 00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:14,630 being an issue or in the certificates. 586 00:48:15,790 --> 00:48:21,090 The Stratick and the HUSA call partners to important serving as bond counsel and financial advisor 587 00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:28,310 and bond counsel respectively be okay for them to serve as a place manager as they have served the city 588 00:48:28,310 --> 00:48:30,770 in such capacity on previous issues. 589 00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:34,190 with it on underwriters and their counsel. 590 00:48:34,610 --> 00:48:36,850 You know, we would certainly work with city staff 591 00:48:36,850 --> 00:48:41,510 to identify some capable firms to participate 592 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:43,710 in these underwriters and on-fights. 593 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,980 The slides that follow are a mark it up bank. 594 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,340 And welcome to move through that. 595 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,180 You know, if there's one real take away for me, 596 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,740 it's on slide 14. 597 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,440 And what we show you there in the lower left is a, 598 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,180 What we refer to as the MMD or the municipal market here, 599 00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:09,580 it's essentially the curve that we pay attention to in the municipal bond sector. 600 00:49:10,420 --> 00:49:16,300 And so what's noticeable is, you know, in January of 23, which is the green line, 601 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,160 we're a little below where we were last month, 602 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,740 but we're noticeably above where we were in January of a year. 603 00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:28,340 You know, that's about really kind of January, 604 00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:32,860 January or early February is when we really started to kind of see this graph or a little 605 00:49:32,860 --> 00:49:33,280 crazy. 606 00:49:34,180 --> 00:49:42,260 And I find phenomenal that last year around January, if I was looking for a mortgage, 607 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,660 I'm still probably going to block your pretty good rate. 608 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,140 Now I'm looking at a rate that 609 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,320 our anticipated bottom cost is a little bit to that. 610 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:10,900 And I think our 4.49 percent, yeah, 4.49 is where our current markets rates are and we're 611 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:13,900 adding a current basis point to our 4% on top of that. 612 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,180 That's just kind of conservative and modern. 613 00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:21,280 So as we move through this action, if rates kind of move, we're not surprised. 614 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,620 We're, of course, going to work real hard to get under that rate or to get a rate 615 00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:29,220 lower than that, secure something lower than 4.49. 616 00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:31,460 And then I think it's doable, you know, 617 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,940 the city does have a strong credit rating. 618 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,220 So I think that speaks a lot and obviously it has a reputation 619 00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:40,510 like being in 620 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,640 some city with stable, good fiscal year. 621 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,180 It's 622 00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:57,680 going to be our jobs to get it out of the water. 623 00:51:00,210 --> 00:51:01,930 In fact, that completes my part of the presentation. 624 00:51:04,780 --> 00:51:06,500 I think any questions from the council? 625 00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:07,740 Thank 626 00:51:22,940 --> 00:51:23,400 you. 627 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:23,840 Thank you. 628 00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:29,320 Item 9B, Resolution 2023-002, 629 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,960 The resolution authorizing, posting, and publication of notice of intention 630 00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:39,140 to issue City of Dury of Texas combination tax and revenue certificates 631 00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:42,280 of obligation in a maximum aggregated principal amount, 632 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,340 not to exceed 27 million, and providing an effective date. 633 00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:48,020 Do I have a motion on the diaries? 634 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,600 Do 635 00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:55,010 I have a second? 636 00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:55,790 Do I have a second? 637 00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:57,270 Do I have a second? 638 00:51:58,110 --> 00:51:59,130 Any questions? 639 00:51:59,790 --> 00:52:00,190 Any questions 640 00:52:04,930 --> 00:52:08,870 about where the $5 million for the waterfront comes from 641 00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:12,930 because when I looked at the agenda on Sunday afternoon, 642 00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:14,910 that was the first time that I ever heard about $27 million. 643 00:52:15,450 --> 00:52:17,990 We've been talking about $22 million all last summer. 644 00:52:18,830 --> 00:52:23,290 You know, page 145 of the budget book doesn't mention anything related 645 00:52:23,290 --> 00:52:29,590 to water until the 25, yeah, the 2025-2026 budget. 646 00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:34,890 And then all of a sudden, we go from 22 to 27, and we have it. 647 00:52:34,890 --> 00:52:40,570 There's nothing really in the agenda about water rates, how we're paying for it, you know. 648 00:52:41,570 --> 00:52:42,510 Yes, thank you. 649 00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:47,710 So yes, to answer, we've been talking about the $22 million for a while. 650 00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:56,330 Of course, the funding for that would be spent differently than what we originally budgeted based on those costs. 651 00:52:56,990 --> 00:53:00,710 And you're right, we hadn't talked about the $5 million for the water project. 652 00:53:00,710 --> 00:53:06,730 This came about and felt like it was a good opportunity to include it with this issue, 653 00:53:06,990 --> 00:53:13,290 so we didn't have any additional costs for doing another issue in the near future. 654 00:53:14,070 --> 00:53:19,610 And so my thought was for the five million, we have a couple of projects that are on the horizon. 655 00:53:19,810 --> 00:53:25,370 One is the AMI automatic meter reading infrastructure that we had a presentation on. 656 00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:30,270 So for the water portion, that was about $5.3 million. 657 00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:31,850 So we had that coming. 658 00:53:33,130 --> 00:53:42,690 And my thought was to use a portion of this funding for that using our excess fund balance for another portion of it. 659 00:53:43,130 --> 00:53:51,770 And more hopefully we can apply with the Texas Water Development Board in March for a low interest rate loan. 660 00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:54,810 And they look at those type of projects, such as that. 661 00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:58,610 And so they have an interest in funding those kind of projects. 662 00:53:59,070 --> 00:54:04,650 But I didn't want to forego this opportunity in case we didn't get that funding. 663 00:54:05,110 --> 00:54:13,550 We could then go ahead and get started with bringing a contract back to start the automatic meter reading and AMI project 664 00:54:13,550 --> 00:54:16,410 and then still have the money to get started. 665 00:54:16,830 --> 00:54:21,050 We'll still have to use some of our fund balance, but this would get us started. 666 00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:27,790 The other portion is with the 2019 B. Texas Water Development Board. 667 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:35,730 We have borrowed money there, and also the 2021 B. through the Texas Water Development Board 668 00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:38,330 for the Waterline Replacement Project. 669 00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:41,030 And that's a major project. 670 00:54:42,030 --> 00:54:44,310 Those two fundings aren't going to cover all of it, 671 00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:50,050 but there is a need for us to go back and start pretty soon with the next day. 672 00:54:50,050 --> 00:54:54,050 So we look at that with the Texas Water Development Board also. 673 00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:56,710 So that was my plan with this 5 million. 674 00:54:56,890 --> 00:55:00,030 Yes, we had really talked about it in prior discussions. 675 00:55:00,330 --> 00:55:05,850 But again, I just felt like it would save us money to include this with the issue. 676 00:55:06,250 --> 00:55:14,250 It would be paid through the revenues, the rates that we currently have through our utility fund, our water system. 677 00:55:14,850 --> 00:55:18,910 So based on that and based on the operations of the fund, 678 00:55:18,910 --> 00:55:25,110 I don't foresee we have to raise the rate when we keep it as it is and still fund 679 00:55:25,110 --> 00:55:27,890 that principal interest payments with our assistance. 680 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,940 No plan to raise rates at this 681 00:55:36,050 --> 00:55:36,110 point. 682 00:55:36,110 --> 00:55:41,270 That particular project, hold on, Debbie, comes up in the rules of difference. 683 00:55:41,410 --> 00:55:45,510 So you're saying that we're going to use the excess fund balance, 684 00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:48,010 which I've been told before that we can't use? 685 00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:52,430 Yeah, yeah. 686 00:55:52,430 --> 00:56:01,210 So last time when a few months ago we had water pumps for about $480,000 and I said, 687 00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:07,210 hey, why finance can pay $80,000 in interest fees, use the excess fund balance and I was 688 00:56:07,210 --> 00:56:13,670 told we couldn't use that money because that would provide a red flag to the credit rating 689 00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:14,070 agencies. 690 00:56:15,110 --> 00:56:19,050 Because that particular fund that we were talking about was not the water fund. 691 00:56:19,230 --> 00:56:23,130 It was the fixed asset fund and they didn't actually have a fund balance. 692 00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:28,450 But those pumps were for the water system. They were for the water treatment plan. 693 00:56:29,110 --> 00:56:33,550 So how is that not usable from the water fund? 694 00:56:34,550 --> 00:56:37,270 That could be yes, but that wasn't the discussion. 695 00:56:38,570 --> 00:56:43,650 I was told we could not use it, not because it should come out of the fixed asset fund, 696 00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:49,050 but because we can't use the excess money above our four-month or five-month fund balance 697 00:56:49,050 --> 00:56:52,090 because that would provide a red flag to the credit rating agencies. 698 00:56:52,430 --> 00:56:57,270 That's what I was told and honestly it was in your office and in your office where we've 699 00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:57,970 had this discussion. 700 00:56:58,610 --> 00:57:03,870 So now all of a sudden we are using it because that is exactly why I wanted to lower the 701 00:57:03,870 --> 00:57:06,430 rates because these fund balances have been so high. 702 00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:12,090 Right, and even through the budget discussions, we have the long-range plan to lower that 703 00:57:12,090 --> 00:57:13,330 excess fund balance. 704 00:57:13,830 --> 00:57:18,710 And that's why we've made some of the changes we've done is to reduce that somewhat. 705 00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:23,730 I mean, it doesn't happen overnight, but it is scheduled to begin reducing that. 706 00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:24,490 Okay. 707 00:57:24,690 --> 00:57:33,130 But last meeting, and this is what I didn't discuss last meeting, we raised the natural 708 00:57:33,130 --> 00:57:34,730 gas rates by 5%. 709 00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:38,870 Which over the course of the year if we didn't do it would be approximately 185 thousand dollars 710 00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:46,350 Which would leave the excess above the four-month fund balance requirement that we have in in student locally at a balance of 711 00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:49,470 830 thousand dollars, but we raised rates anyway 712 00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:54,210 I mean what you know if if the plan is to 713 00:57:55,110 --> 00:57:58,410 You know lower that fund balance why not do it now, right? 714 00:57:58,950 --> 00:58:04,490 I mean yeah, maybe it's only five or ten bucks a month in each of the funds for various people 715 00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:08,290 But a lot of people, an extra 40, 50 bucks a month, 716 00:58:08,590 --> 00:58:12,850 that could be a big deal right now with the way that inflation is. 717 00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:14,330 So, I'm done. 718 00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:17,210 This comes from Sanchez. 719 00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:24,250 You know, the water meter project, wasn't that like $70 million? 720 00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:25,010 Yes. 721 00:58:25,590 --> 00:58:31,810 So you're looking ahead right now to try to get some money set up for that $70 million. 722 00:58:31,810 --> 00:58:36,210 And then use a portion from the utility fund and with the gas, again, 723 00:58:38,270 --> 00:58:39,370 to reduce the extra 724 00:58:48,810 --> 00:58:49,050 cost. 725 00:58:50,170 --> 00:58:50,770 No, ma'am. 726 00:58:51,010 --> 00:58:55,450 I was just going to add to Councilman DeRue and absolutely, I remember we discussed that 727 00:58:55,450 --> 00:59:00,710 Councilman, again, it's kind of, you know, it is, it's difficult, it's, you know, but 728 00:59:00,710 --> 00:59:02,010 we posed that question. 729 00:59:02,170 --> 00:59:05,210 I know we had talked about setting the meeting up with you, so we've been trying 730 00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:09,390 to explain the debt service, so we've been utilizing that to try and answer those 731 00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:09,770 questions. 732 00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:17,850 We had had our financial order come in and talked to us about that, and we posed that question to them, you know, 733 00:59:18,370 --> 00:59:20,930 and looking at that exact same sentence. 734 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,640 Is that my understanding? 735 00:59:27,820 --> 00:59:33,300 They confirmed that the way we were doing it, as opposed to paying off the whole $780,000, 736 00:59:36,570 --> 00:59:39,350 that's what I understood, but it made more sense. 737 00:59:40,090 --> 00:59:42,710 But I think maybe 20,000, I would work a bit 738 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,500 and have them come back and we can go through that again and talk about that. 739 01:00:03,060 --> 01:00:05,460 Any other questions, concerns, 740 01:00:08,380 --> 01:00:11,860 motion, second, all in favor, 741 01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:16,730 against, abstain, 742 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:19,840 adjourned. 743 01:00:21,220 --> 01:00:28,620 Item 9C, Ordinance 2023-006, an ordinance to direct city manager to approve a contract with AG3, 744 01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:34,480 group in the amount of $65,000 for engineering services for the south San Felipe Dreaming Study. 745 01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:09,880 This would be the first contact we have with them. They were part of our the request for 746 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,340 qualifications that we did a couple of months ago so that we could hire on-call engineering 747 01:01:14,340 --> 01:01:21,560 services. And they were one of the 10 firms that we went ahead and selected. So even though 748 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:27,240 it is not, we have not hired them in the past, we are familiar with them because we reviewed 749 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,860 their statements of qualifications. 750 01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:39,500 This is for the south company grade drainage study. Has it been in the past any of that study? 751 01:01:41,490 --> 01:01:45,030 I would have to ask Mr. Quintanilla to answer that question. 752 01:01:45,050 --> 01:01:46,470 Oh, we haven't had any other. We haven't had a study. 753 01:01:46,750 --> 01:01:48,110 I think we know the tour site. 754 01:01:48,670 --> 01:01:50,030 I'll look at the public works director. 755 01:01:50,410 --> 01:01:52,170 This hasn't been part of the study in the past. 756 01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:55,010 This is an area that wasn't in part of the FEMA studies or anything else, 757 01:01:55,250 --> 01:01:57,590 but is a part that we've noticed that there's flooding issues. 758 01:01:58,090 --> 01:01:59,230 As we want to address it, 759 01:01:59,230 --> 01:02:02,650 And the study would be for re-grading some of the roadways 760 01:02:02,650 --> 01:02:04,330 so we can get the water to flow down our streets better 761 01:02:04,330 --> 01:02:06,890 and then for a location for potential detention 762 01:02:06,890 --> 01:02:09,870 fund just north of Dr. Ferdinand-Linon 763 01:02:09,870 --> 01:02:11,390 to catch some of that water before it crosses 764 01:02:11,390 --> 01:02:12,770 and start flooding for the downstream. 765 01:02:14,930 --> 01:02:15,670 North only? 766 01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:16,710 Thank you. 767 01:02:16,890 --> 01:02:19,330 All north of Ferdinand-Linon between Railway Avenue 768 01:02:19,330 --> 01:02:21,630 and Ferdinand-Linon for now in this portion of it. 769 01:02:22,090 --> 01:02:23,750 But we want to continue on for the downstream. 770 01:02:23,930 --> 01:02:26,090 This is the address at first portion of it. 771 01:02:28,170 --> 01:02:30,710 And when would it be the rest? 772 01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:34,150 The rest is, as soon as we get this portion done, once we figure 773 01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:36,950 out the balance of the cost, we can start figuring out how 774 01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:37,650 to do the next phase. 775 01:02:37,930 --> 01:02:39,170 We'll continue on downstream on that. 776 01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:45,410 John, based on the, going back to this issue there, 777 01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:48,430 as far as the drainage after all this time that, you know, 778 01:02:48,550 --> 01:02:52,070 how bad it's been, did you all take consideration 779 01:02:52,070 --> 01:02:57,150 the most areas of streets, or is just, like, 780 01:02:58,230 --> 01:03:03,430 We had a whole lot of problems in a certain area. 781 01:03:03,850 --> 01:03:04,770 And it's all that area. 782 01:03:04,930 --> 01:03:07,210 Like I mentioned earlier, I came to council. 783 01:03:07,390 --> 01:03:11,990 I told the advice council that we were going to pause after Nicholson was installed on this project. 784 01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:13,370 I had gone out there myself. 785 01:03:14,030 --> 01:03:16,170 I've seen that for years that it was flooding. 786 01:03:16,450 --> 01:03:16,850 I'm sure we will. 787 01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:20,830 We have people that have had their homes flooded several times. 788 01:03:21,070 --> 01:03:21,490 That's by us. 789 01:03:22,010 --> 01:03:23,650 But yes, we did look at all that. 790 01:03:23,650 --> 01:03:25,350 So it's all that area where there were the, 791 01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:27,330 but if we have other areas in our town 792 01:03:27,330 --> 01:03:28,790 which are set aside in the Valley, 793 01:03:29,110 --> 01:03:30,550 we're going to get through to that place. 794 01:03:31,810 --> 01:03:34,670 But yes, this is an area that I don't think 795 01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:37,830 there's ever been any during these studies. 796 01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:39,490 It has never been studied, 797 01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:41,030 but it is a blood hazard. 798 01:03:41,170 --> 01:03:41,830 There's areas that we have. 799 01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:45,110 And it's called basically low hanging fruit. 800 01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:46,730 So when we can attack quickly 801 01:03:46,730 --> 01:03:49,570 and make some improvements to help a lot of the residents 802 01:03:49,570 --> 01:03:51,230 in that area, and then we'll continue 803 01:03:51,230 --> 01:03:54,650 on moving forward in other parts of town because we have other studies and everything else but 804 01:03:55,330 --> 01:04:00,770 one project alone we repair one piece of King's Way, raise the roadway, put the culverts across 805 01:04:00,770 --> 01:04:03,710 there and we get that whole nine million dollar balance. This is where we're looking at maybe 806 01:04:03,710 --> 01:04:08,230 spreading that nine million dollars and picking more residents and just looking at one solid 807 01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:11,730 location and trying to spread the wealth to improve range throughout the city better. 808 01:04:12,170 --> 01:04:16,610 And we have Councilman, we have looked at like retention plans and barriers are already 809 01:04:18,050 --> 01:04:27,750 So as a public work director study, we're going to go to those areas where it's the most, you know, it's the easiest and the most problematic one to find that category. 810 01:04:28,030 --> 01:04:30,390 So we can get the biggest bang on the money from that. 811 01:04:32,350 --> 01:04:33,650 That's the cover-up. I'm sorry. 812 01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:38,130 I'm okay. What is the time frame on the study? 813 01:04:38,690 --> 01:04:39,870 I'll show you in three months, please. 814 01:04:40,030 --> 01:04:41,950 Three months. And then from there on? 815 01:04:42,250 --> 01:04:46,410 And there they'll give us the studying or else then we need to start scheduling how we do the work. 816 01:04:46,790 --> 01:04:48,010 Because we're trying to see if we can do the street work. 817 01:04:48,570 --> 01:04:50,370 In this location we want to do is rebate the streets. 818 01:04:50,450 --> 01:04:54,650 Instead of having a normal crown where the center point of the street is the highest, we want to do an inverting crown. 819 01:04:55,010 --> 01:04:57,550 So actually you're funneling all the water down the middle of the street. 820 01:04:58,610 --> 01:05:00,430 We're starting to get... 821 01:05:00,430 --> 01:05:01,930 If we can finish the study in three months, 822 01:05:02,030 --> 01:05:05,330 then we're going to see if we can start scheduling our equipment and start doing that work as well on the streets. 823 01:05:06,490 --> 01:05:10,010 At the same time we're going to see about looking where that detention pond and the detention pond. 824 01:05:10,010 --> 01:05:14,530 We have to acquire that property still and then start looking at the calculation for the size of that detention park. 825 01:05:18,070 --> 01:05:20,750 We want to get started with at least three workers in three months. 826 01:05:20,890 --> 01:05:29,570 Yeah, because this is, I mean, already giving people that live in that area hope because they've been desperate on this for so many years. 827 01:05:30,250 --> 01:05:38,710 And, you know, we do want rain but there's some homes that we've seen these people have gone through so much. 828 01:05:40,450 --> 01:05:49,810 So, that's why I ask all this because it's got the town hall meetings that I have that's been every month. 829 01:05:49,970 --> 01:05:50,690 And you know that, John. 830 01:05:50,750 --> 01:05:51,070 Oh, absolutely. 831 01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:55,070 So, now, they have some focus. 832 01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:57,370 I'm very proud of it. 833 01:05:59,410 --> 01:05:59,890 This 834 01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:03,820 is the beginning of a lot more of 835 01:06:06,890 --> 01:06:08,990 the conversation through WALA through this. 836 01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:13,070 And up here by 5th Street, 6th Street right behind you. 837 01:06:13,070 --> 01:06:16,370 So, I think John was only working on some strategy. 838 01:06:16,690 --> 01:06:19,270 I think we're looking at retention points on Darkfield. 839 01:06:19,410 --> 01:06:20,990 We've got one down on Darkfield where 840 01:06:23,940 --> 01:06:24,840 there's a park where we 841 01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:28,040 strategize. 842 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:34,720 We're talking. 843 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,620 Have we reached out to them? 844 01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:41,640 We're all finding out what they're going to do with the hill. 845 01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:43,320 What they're bringing? 846 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,420 Because they're the ones that created it. 847 01:06:46,940 --> 01:06:48,920 We had a private number that we couldn't get rid of. 848 01:06:55,540 --> 01:07:10,740 We are going to reach out to them, it takes time to get the study results and everything else to figure out what improvements are needed, because the location we're looking at, the robo needs to do some improvements, the textile has some improvements, basically maintenance that need to be on their structure as well, and then combine that with the work that we do. 849 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:27,940 That's 850 01:07:32,290 --> 01:07:35,750 all I had for you, Mr. Winkie. Thank you. Any other comments? 851 01:07:37,890 --> 01:07:38,670 All in favor? 852 01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:50,560 Item 9D, Resolution 2023-003, a resolution authorizing and directing the city manager 853 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:56,000 to reject all proposals for the design production and installation of wayfinding signs for the 854 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:56,640 city of Delaware. 855 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,680 Do I have a motion in the dice? 856 01:07:58,940 --> 01:07:59,280 Motion. 857 01:08:04,990 --> 01:08:05,570 Any questions? 858 01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:08,310 No questions. 859 01:08:08,890 --> 01:08:09,150 Sure. 860 01:08:09,350 --> 01:08:11,070 Use of wayfinding signs. 861 01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:18,970 Do we have sufficient signs that put in certain areas or just don't need them? 862 01:08:19,650 --> 01:08:21,890 No, Councilman, what we're, what we're, 863 01:08:21,890 --> 01:08:23,650 as a matter of fact, I requested that we do this 864 01:08:23,650 --> 01:08:25,350 because so what we're trying to do is we're trying 865 01:08:25,350 --> 01:08:26,170 to get more signs. 866 01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:27,970 You know, we're trying to come up with a design, 867 01:08:28,310 --> 01:08:28,390 a 868 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,340 stand-tec that's designed by comprehensive plan 869 01:08:33,340 --> 01:08:36,360 and working with them and another design 870 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,240 that we're trying to come up with in your style. 871 01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:40,640 We're trying to come up with a unique design, 872 01:08:41,460 --> 01:08:43,700 that'll be used for signs of all of our parts, 873 01:08:43,860 --> 01:08:44,520 all of our systems. 874 01:08:53,090 --> 01:08:55,810 We're trying to think ahead as far as what our 875 01:08:56,350 --> 01:08:58,990 comprehensive master plan has some design that I'm going to do. 876 01:08:58,990 --> 01:09:01,950 So we're trying to take a couple of those design elements 877 01:09:01,950 --> 01:09:04,870 and then utilize those on all of our wayfinding signs 878 01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:06,690 and signs screwed up. 879 01:09:07,090 --> 01:09:08,770 So we'll be replacing those out of time. 880 01:09:14,290 --> 01:09:14,790 Any questions? 881 01:09:15,150 --> 01:09:15,710 Are you favorite? 882 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:16,830 No. 883 01:09:17,330 --> 01:09:17,810 I'm 884 01:09:20,140 --> 01:09:21,040 funny on this one. 885 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,780 I would like to make a motion to actually get a motion 886 01:09:24,780 --> 01:09:26,520 to postpone it for the next week. 887 01:09:28,260 --> 01:09:30,700 Resolution 2020-2024. 888 01:09:32,220 --> 01:09:34,840 Can I get a motion to postpone it for the next month? 889 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:06,140 Yes, during the implementation process we've been having meetings today we had one at 2 p.m. 890 01:10:06,140 --> 01:10:15,140 So, today at 2 p.m. is whenever we found out that the cost for the additional item that we needed was going to be changing the totals on the agenda item. 891 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,740 So, we wouldn't be able to move forward with it because it's still going to have to change. 892 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,300 Any other questions? 893 01:10:23,140 --> 01:10:24,020 No, that's fine. 894 01:10:24,940 --> 01:10:25,660 All in favor? 895 01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:41,320 All right. 896 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,920 for the City of Jorio Police Department. 897 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,560 Do I have a motion to die? 898 01:10:46,660 --> 01:10:47,060 Any motion? 899 01:10:49,770 --> 01:10:50,550 Any second? 900 01:10:51,130 --> 01:10:51,610 Any questions? 901 01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:53,770 All in favor? 902 01:10:54,510 --> 01:10:56,530 I am 10, 903 01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:59,420 Assistant City Manager. 904 01:10:59,740 --> 01:11:03,840 10A, discussion regarding the original project timeline 905 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,640 and delays related to the change order 906 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,980 for the Brown Plaza Renovation Project. 907 01:11:08,260 --> 01:11:09,940 This is for Councilman Jesus Lopez. 908 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,880 Councilman Lopez? 909 01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:13,660 Yes. 910 01:11:13,660 --> 01:11:18,880 Yes. Well, let's talk to my attention about this timeline. 911 01:11:19,860 --> 01:11:21,640 This timeline I didn't even know existed. 912 01:11:22,780 --> 01:11:24,640 The timeline was given to me a few weeks ago. 913 01:11:25,220 --> 01:11:27,820 So, you know, based on the timeline, 914 01:11:29,420 --> 01:11:31,540 wherever it is right now in charge, 915 01:11:32,060 --> 01:11:34,560 we're overseeing this project in the timeline. 916 01:11:35,380 --> 01:11:37,200 And we have a progress report. 917 01:11:37,660 --> 01:11:40,200 We have a new transparency where we're at on this timeline. 918 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:53,240 Yes, we do receive daily emails right now, the last email that I received would have been on the 19th and we are right on schedule. 919 01:11:54,260 --> 01:12:02,140 Okay, but like from the 20th to the 25th timeline, it's supposed to be a 5 inch slab over the 4th. 920 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:07,720 There's no slab, there's no bar, just a fence. 921 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,900 I know they're saying delays with weather, basically today is one of those, but this one is for a little while. 922 01:12:14,500 --> 01:12:18,560 But there's nothing really on the timeline that I saw that they're keeping with the timeline. 923 01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:23,940 Well, up to the 19th they would be up to the timeline, right? 924 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,880 I do have, it does show here where we receive it. 925 01:12:28,940 --> 01:12:30,720 I can forward it to you if you would like. 926 01:12:31,700 --> 01:12:34,640 So up to the 19th we are up to date, right? 927 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,200 Of course, this week has been a little bit difficult because of the weather. 928 01:12:39,140 --> 01:12:40,660 They have been expecting rain. 929 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,360 So that's probably why there was delays. 930 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:48,660 Today would be the first delay that we've seen since we started on the project in December. 931 01:12:50,060 --> 01:12:56,340 Also, how many people in this contractor just hire have working on the project? 932 01:12:56,780 --> 01:12:59,420 I wouldn't have that information off the top of my head. 933 01:12:59,420 --> 01:13:04,340 I mean, does he have, like, one group doing wine, one group doing semen, one group doing 934 01:13:04,340 --> 01:13:06,460 that, or just one group doing one thing at a time? 935 01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:11,600 No, they do have several subcontractors that some are working on the foundation, some are 936 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,320 working on electrical, some are working on the plumbing. 937 01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:19,300 Yeah, for example, on Friday they did have JD plumbing out there, so they would have 938 01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:20,760 only been working on the plumbing portion. 939 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,380 And then, of course, the LMC Superintend intended. 940 01:13:24,180 --> 01:13:25,880 That's what the report shows on Friday. 941 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,100 Does anybody oversee physical? 942 01:13:28,780 --> 01:13:32,700 Yes, we do have Mr. Quintanilla who visits their constant lead, Greg, 943 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:34,960 and then Luis Midel is our project manager. 944 01:13:36,580 --> 01:13:37,140 Any 945 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:39,860 other questions? 946 01:13:42,460 --> 01:13:46,280 When you said that we're on timeline, you mean the revised timeline? 947 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,880 Yes, so based on being on that revised timeline, 948 01:13:52,740 --> 01:13:56,900 what would you estimate the chances of having it open 949 01:13:56,900 --> 01:13:59,560 by the St. Claude Mausoleum. 950 01:14:00,020 --> 01:14:02,720 Well, the timeline does show that it's going to be May 25th. 951 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,180 We are trying to get them to do it before then, right? 952 01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,800 But right now, the timeline does show May 25th. 953 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:09,780 So, unlike them? 954 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:11,720 If we base ourselves on the timeline. 955 01:14:14,020 --> 01:14:16,320 Basically, what you're saying is that we're going to do it right. 956 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,640 We've got to follow the timeline that's out there for May 25th. 957 01:14:22,820 --> 01:14:25,900 I would just say that if we don't want to have a rest project, 958 01:14:25,900 --> 01:14:27,380 then we would shift all that. 959 01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:34,000 I'd rather take our time doing it right than having to go back in and dig up something that we did wrong. 960 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,140 So, you know, I'm sorry, you can't always think of the mile to that location. 961 01:14:39,860 --> 01:14:42,340 But it's not a feasibility at this time. It's dangerous. 962 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,740 There's a construction site. You can't have people over there from the closet. 963 01:14:47,180 --> 01:14:51,340 What happens if the little kid gets by that net and falls in the ditch? Who's lying? 964 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:52,420 Clear. 965 01:14:53,420 --> 01:14:55,580 So it's better to do the project right. 966 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,100 We've got to let the contractor follow the flow of what he's doing. 967 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:13,080 There could be something that we could see in the time frame, but we can't predict the weather. 968 01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:17,960 We can't predict the elements that the term is working with. 969 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:25,740 Sometimes the client is not there all the time, so we've just got to proceed on it and follow the poll calls there. 970 01:15:25,740 --> 01:15:27,560 Yeah, we're not rushing it. 971 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,060 No shortcut. 972 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,680 I mean, we don't want to end up in some other things 973 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,700 that we already in there. 974 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,180 We're going to follow everything. 975 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,540 At the same time, I think I will speak for Councilman Lopez. 976 01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:44,800 I think his concern is the deadlines? 977 01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:48,700 Well, the deadline is one, but if they have a bigger crew, 978 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,580 there's just two people. 979 01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:52,520 Well, one of the things that, I mean, I'm going to tell you 980 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:59,060 as counsel, as mayor, we cannot tell the contractor 981 01:15:59,060 --> 01:16:02,220 if they want to do the thing that they're going to work with. 982 01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:04,680 It's up to the contractor to do that. 983 01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:10,420 I think our idea is we give the contractor to whoever's out there 984 01:16:10,420 --> 01:16:13,120 and they have to do the thing that they're going to do 985 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,120 trying to put everybody to work with. 986 01:16:15,260 --> 01:16:16,640 We have no say so. 987 01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:20,480 I don't think Mr. Machaka and Mr. Sheedy have that right 988 01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:24,100 go to a contractor and you're going to bring in $10,000 and you're going to bring in $20,000. 989 01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:27,700 It is not up to us, it's up to the contractor to do it. 990 01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:32,360 Because remember, if they don't finish on time, there are things they're going to have to pay back. 991 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,520 Because we have to demand that our attorney here next to us will put that into play. 992 01:16:37,660 --> 01:16:42,080 If they don't finish by a certain time, then they have to pay in late. 993 01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:43,100 Yes. 994 01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:47,520 So I just wanted to be just going to follow through on the protocol and the calendar process. 995 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,960 Is this time like it was a given to you or somebody created it? 996 01:16:52,580 --> 01:16:54,920 That was issued by the contractor, yes. 997 01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:56,420 Okay. 998 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:02,900 One little transparency and a little accountability to say, you know, people ask, what's going on? 999 01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:03,560 I don't know. 1000 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,980 So they know maybe they can relax. 1001 01:17:07,420 --> 01:17:07,600 Yes. 1002 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,520 I have a question for Mr. Lopez. 1003 01:17:12,380 --> 01:17:13,280 When did you get that? 1004 01:17:14,180 --> 01:17:14,880 Mr. Sheedy. 1005 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:15,540 When? 1006 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:17,960 Two weeks ago. 1007 01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:24,600 Okay, well he does include that in our weekly report, we've had that, so. 1008 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,440 This weekly report? 1009 01:17:26,980 --> 01:17:27,580 Oh, yes? 1010 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,960 Yes, every time. 1011 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,700 And he does a review update during the meetings as well. 1012 01:17:34,380 --> 01:17:36,920 We received several things. 1013 01:17:37,140 --> 01:17:37,920 I'll have them all here. 1014 01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:45,820 You know, when it was approved, the company, the amount, 1015 01:17:45,820 --> 01:17:51,880 We then, when the CDFW took over medicine and operation for the Bromplasa, it was back 1016 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:58,580 to transparency, we talked about transparency, September 28th of 2021, here it is, the amount. 1017 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:11,750 And then they brought back in November 29th also another additional because of what the company 1018 01:18:11,750 --> 01:18:15,910 and that is what they found. 1019 01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:21,790 So there was another additional amount, and so, you know, all that is here. 1020 01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:22,750 There are a little here. 1021 01:18:22,930 --> 01:18:25,450 Yeah, so talking about conspiracy is all here. 1022 01:18:25,810 --> 01:18:31,270 One thing being on paper, another scene of this, you know, we see it and we see it. 1023 01:18:31,370 --> 01:18:32,110 It's on website. 1024 01:18:32,910 --> 01:18:33,270 No, no, no. 1025 01:18:33,610 --> 01:18:35,510 I'm not talking about this. 1026 01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:36,950 This I got to do with that. 1027 01:18:37,530 --> 01:18:41,630 But if they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing, you know, 1028 01:18:41,710 --> 01:18:43,170 it's questionable what's going on. 1029 01:18:43,170 --> 01:18:45,450 Yeah, but this is not an in-house project. 1030 01:18:45,670 --> 01:18:49,190 This is a company that was a contractor that was hired. 1031 01:18:49,770 --> 01:18:52,370 I see your point, and all this falls 1032 01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:57,030 under your concern, mostly, is Cinco de Mayo. 1033 01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:59,230 And this has nothing to do with Cinco de Mayo. 1034 01:18:59,730 --> 01:19:03,530 The item came in to re-run an update. 1035 01:19:04,090 --> 01:19:07,450 Well, sometimes, things just don't go. 1036 01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:08,710 And Mr. Sanchez can say that. 1037 01:19:08,710 --> 01:19:11,570 Sometimes you go with this, this timeline, you know. 1038 01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:13,830 I understand. 1039 01:19:14,330 --> 01:19:17,930 Well, I just thought that was kind of upsetting. 1040 01:19:21,210 --> 01:19:23,910 It's just getting for me more... 1041 01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:28,530 No, no, for me it was kind of upsetting because, I mean, everything's been given. 1042 01:19:29,210 --> 01:19:31,050 I mean, I don't see why, but I understand. 1043 01:19:31,370 --> 01:19:31,690 I understand. 1044 01:19:32,430 --> 01:19:32,730 I do. 1045 01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:35,230 But everything's been given. 1046 01:19:35,230 --> 01:19:38,770 Well, we just have something to say to our constituents 1047 01:19:38,770 --> 01:19:39,750 when they asked me. 1048 01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:42,690 And basically, I don't try to get into that area. 1049 01:19:43,310 --> 01:19:45,970 Because I'm just looking to see what's going on. 1050 01:19:46,410 --> 01:19:47,830 So you don't try to get into the program? 1051 01:19:48,010 --> 01:19:50,430 Well, I have an idea. 1052 01:19:50,930 --> 01:19:51,250 I did? 1053 01:19:51,410 --> 01:19:51,810 I have to. 1054 01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:52,630 OK, let's bring it back. 1055 01:19:52,970 --> 01:19:53,290 Let's bring it back. 1056 01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:57,530 I think we already kind of see it as a factor. 1057 01:19:57,730 --> 01:19:59,150 And I think she did also. 1058 01:19:59,370 --> 01:20:04,230 I think it's something that will continue to make sure 1059 01:20:08,190 --> 01:20:15,770 I think it's something that the contractors out there have to do their job, get it done, 1060 01:20:16,350 --> 01:20:20,910 and not as fast as we want it, but as long as they follow the actual process. 1061 01:20:24,210 --> 01:20:36,070 We'd be happy to, like, we give it a short job and we can do the idea of the update that we could see that we would, and that we could see what it would all look like and what it would fall behind in the way. 1062 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:39,900 Definitely. 1063 01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:41,940 And there's always a solution to our problems. 1064 01:20:42,260 --> 01:20:45,280 So whatever problems occur, we could find a solution as a team. 1065 01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:54,880 I just want, I just want to proceed that to be, I mean, too many years, you know, too many years at 84. 1066 01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:02,680 that the city did not have now the operation management to do something with it. 1067 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:11,480 Now that we have it, I know that the entire city of the real is everybody goes out there, you know, to be done right. 1068 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,980 And it's going to be a major uplift. It's not just one item. It's a major uplift. 1069 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,680 So after, you know, some people might say we don't need this, we don't need that. 1070 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,820 Well, I mean, at the end of it all, everybody's going to know. 1071 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:26,480 Because it is for the community. 1072 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,280 It's not for only who live on the Pacific Island. 1073 01:21:29,480 --> 01:21:31,260 It's for the entire city of Doreal. 1074 01:21:31,780 --> 01:21:37,980 And if it was donated from a family to the city of Doreal, 1075 01:21:38,380 --> 01:21:41,520 we have to continue the wishes. 1076 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,260 So that's all I have to say on that. 1077 01:21:44,620 --> 01:21:46,160 It's going to be done right. 1078 01:21:47,500 --> 01:21:49,960 Whatever time it takes is going to be done right. 1079 01:21:49,960 --> 01:22:01,500 We started this project after September because we wanted the Brown-Pilots Association to have their new face at the end. 1080 01:22:01,860 --> 01:22:07,020 We waited all those months. John can say different if I'm saying something that's not it. 1081 01:22:07,420 --> 01:22:10,840 So we started after now just to wait. 1082 01:22:11,620 --> 01:22:15,420 Well, you know, and go back, you know, I was going to kind of stop you 1083 01:22:15,420 --> 01:22:18,880 because this is only phase one of the capital improvements that we're going to do. 1084 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,340 So this is a phase that we want to make sure we take our time and do it right. 1085 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,480 Because the next phase is coming up. 1086 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,400 We're also going to be approved by this council. 1087 01:22:30,220 --> 01:22:31,820 And we're going to bring it forward soon. 1088 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,540 So there is still more to be done. 1089 01:22:34,860 --> 01:22:37,660 And I thank you, Mr. Montraca and Mr. Lopez. 1090 01:22:38,020 --> 01:22:40,620 Do you have any other questions so we can go ahead and field this? 1091 01:22:41,660 --> 01:22:43,200 Any other questions for Council? 1092 01:22:43,780 --> 01:22:45,420 Let's go on with the next item. 1093 01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:46,180 Thank you. 1094 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:47,160 Thank you, Mr. President. 1095 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,100 Thank you, Mr. Machaka. 1096 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:48,880 Thank you. 1097 01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:50,940 Item 11, Economic Development. 1098 01:22:51,540 --> 01:22:54,580 Item 11A, Resolution 2023-006. 1099 01:22:55,140 --> 01:22:58,280 A resolution appointing the new members to the type B, 1100 01:22:58,480 --> 01:22:59,960 W Economic Development Corporation, 1101 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:01,580 Board of Directors, 1102 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,620 Place 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. 1103 01:23:05,020 --> 01:23:06,640 Do I have a motion in the diaries? 1104 01:23:06,980 --> 01:23:07,280 Motion. 1105 01:23:08,060 --> 01:23:08,620 Thank you. 1106 01:23:19,740 --> 01:23:32,420 Thank you for the hard work at the Type B transition board during all these months of authorizing 1107 01:23:33,180 --> 01:23:40,700 a lot of different documents, resolutions, and thank you to the council as well for also authorizing. 1108 01:23:40,900 --> 01:23:45,900 We did present all the documents to the state of Texas where it's official, a type B board, 1109 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:53,200 and we're now coming through you to a point, places one through seven, 1110 01:23:53,740 --> 01:23:58,820 and we would like to do a process by selecting, we have a container, a glass container, 1111 01:23:58,820 --> 01:24:08,520 to each one of the council members to select the first three names. 1112 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,120 So the first three names will be for one year term 1113 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,760 and the next four names will be a two year term. 1114 01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:19,620 So if you want me to. 1115 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,140 Mr. Ramon, sorry, you brought that up. 1116 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:27,440 So I know that the discussion would pass itself. 1117 01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:48,240 It says three places on a one-year term and four places at a two-year term, but on the actual resolution that is about ready to be signed and names allocated, it says three people have their term expires in 24, December of 24, and four people December of 25. 1118 01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:52,540 That would basically be two years and three years, not one year and two years. 1119 01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:54,340 Twenty-three to twenty-four. 1120 01:24:55,620 --> 01:25:04,360 But that's not what the discussion says, and then I just want to confirm that after that it will be a two-year term. 1121 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:10,840 So initially we'll have four people on a three-year term and three people on basically a two-year term. 1122 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,120 They can go for another two years. 1123 01:25:12,420 --> 01:25:12,580 Okay. 1124 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:13,300 Exactly, yes sir. 1125 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:14,120 Correct. 1126 01:25:15,220 --> 01:25:16,160 And if they... 1127 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,640 You just want to confirm that was intentional. 1128 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:22,320 And once they're appointed, they could go and also appoint 1129 01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,000 them as the president, vice president, and select 1130 01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:32,310 the first team. 1131 01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:33,390 Oh, I go first? 1132 01:25:33,630 --> 01:25:33,650 Oh. 1133 01:25:34,370 --> 01:25:34,730 All right. 1134 01:25:37,250 --> 01:25:40,790 Sergio Diaz, one year, a person. 1135 01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:42,530 Yes, place one, thank you. 1136 01:25:42,530 --> 01:25:43,170 Yes, sir, yes, sir. 1137 01:25:43,250 --> 01:25:43,410 OK. 1138 01:25:43,890 --> 01:25:45,170 Santiago, Red Regions. 1139 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:51,480 Javier Calderón. 1140 01:25:52,220 --> 01:25:52,960 Javier Calderón. 1141 01:25:53,180 --> 01:25:53,280 Yes. 1142 01:25:58,440 --> 01:25:59,220 Cristina Berrera. 1143 01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:04,120 Yes, sir. 1144 01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:05,260 Mr. Webb. 1145 01:26:07,740 --> 01:26:08,320 Go, Jorge 1146 01:26:12,740 --> 01:26:14,420 Sudeik. 1147 01:26:29,780 --> 01:26:30,240 Very well. 1148 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:16,780 Item number 12, community services, Resolution 2023-007, a resolution of the City of Georgia, 1149 01:27:16,980 --> 01:27:22,480 Texas Authorizing and Directing City Manager to submit the fiscal year 23 recreational 1150 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,400 trails grant application to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. 1151 01:27:27,180 --> 01:27:33,840 Before we make the motion, I just wanted to point out that on the resolution itself, 1152 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:41,660 On the fourth, we're asked, there's been a couple of edits made of the work paid is going to be deleted. 1153 01:27:42,460 --> 01:27:48,140 And the dollar amounts are, so I'll read that glass, we're asked. 1154 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:57,320 This is, we're asked, the city of Jail Reel will request $300,000 to construct a shared use trail along the San Felipe Creek adjacent to Gladron Street, 1155 01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:07,020 all the way to Magnolia Street and must provide a cost match of $269,492.79 for a total estimated 1156 01:28:07,020 --> 01:28:22,380 project cost of $569,492.79. The new cost match is $165,515 and the new projected cost is $465,515. 1157 01:28:24,620 --> 01:28:26,540 Where did you get that number from? 1158 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,860 Because that's not the number in this document that was handed to us. 1159 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,980 So the attachment that you did is different than what's in the agenda, 1160 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,320 which is different than the email that you put on it. 1161 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:39,940 Okay. 1162 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,880 Is this the action? 1163 01:28:42,340 --> 01:28:42,660 Yes, sir. 1164 01:28:43,580 --> 01:28:45,840 Good evening, Councilor City Manager, Michael Garcia, 1165 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:49,440 Assistant to City Manager and Greenfighter. 1166 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:59,600 So the initially, so the change that we made, we had additional communication with Texas Parks and Wildlife also with the Land for Community Services. 1167 01:29:00,140 --> 01:29:06,600 So we're changing from an 8-foot wide concrete trail into a 10-foot wide natural surface trail. 1168 01:29:07,220 --> 01:29:13,940 So the construction cost actually decreased as well as the mobilization contingency. 1169 01:29:13,940 --> 01:29:21,820 The only reason why the total cost on the e-mail is not the same as on the attachment is because 1170 01:29:21,820 --> 01:29:30,740 we included the $42,300 that LIFE or Community Services will be charging for the grant administration 1171 01:29:30,740 --> 01:29:34,960 and to submit the grant application internally as staff members. 1172 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:40,960 We had meetings regarding to identify the route of also the materials and also we 1173 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,000 we were able to get the estimated cost from Sandpick. 1174 01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:50,800 So that is the reason why the cost does not match on the email and on the construction. 1175 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:00,940 So I have a motion. 1176 01:30:04,140 --> 01:30:09,180 I know everyone's going to be shocked that I'm going to be pessimistic 1177 01:30:09,180 --> 01:30:15,460 related to money. So we've, you know, in my four and a half years on the council, we've 1178 01:30:15,460 --> 01:30:20,320 had a couple of projects like this come before us. And it's, oh, yeah, we're going to get 1179 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,240 a grant for this, grant for this, grant for this. And so this is all that the city 1180 01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:29,800 needs to put up. And then none of it happened. And now we're scrambled. So what is the 1181 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:35,840 plan, knock on wood when we don't get the $300,000. Are we going to scrap the plan 1182 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,340 or are we going to find the money somewhere? 1183 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,000 We have it included in the adopted capital 1184 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:51,680 improvement budget. The whole 465? No, we have the 265. Exactly. So, when we don't 1185 01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:57,560 get the $300,000 from Texas Parks and Wildlife, are we going to scrap the plan or where 1186 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:04,200 going to get to $300,000? Well, I guess closer to $200,000 that we would need to do the plan 1187 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:09,880 based on this revised process. So again, if we were not to get the funding, if Council 1188 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:15,180 proceed or decided they would like to continue and proceed with the project, then we would 1189 01:31:15,180 --> 01:31:20,340 take the additional money that's in the effort to improve the fund, unbalance to 1190 01:31:24,780 --> 01:31:33,920 So, we have extra money that's, I guess, allocated in our capital improvement budget. 1191 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:39,380 Why don't we have all of that since almost all of that is borrowed? 1192 01:31:40,060 --> 01:31:43,160 Why don't we have that allocated against projects? 1193 01:31:43,540 --> 01:31:47,940 Well, it's a combination of borrowed and transferred in for operating funds. 1194 01:31:47,940 --> 01:31:58,410 And so some of the savings comes from projects that come in less than what we buy from under completion 1195 01:31:58,410 --> 01:32:02,330 or sometimes they get postponed to labor. 1196 01:32:04,730 --> 01:32:10,990 Again, if that's the way council decides they want to go, we have an improvement plan to come back. 1197 01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:18,720 Any other questions from today? 1198 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:21,360 All in favor? 1199 01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:22,820 Right here. 1200 01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:31,010 and 13 consent agenda 13 a quarterly unaudited financial statements as of 1201 01:32:31,010 --> 01:32:36,650 September 30th 2022 and 13 be approval of January 10th 2023 regular 1202 01:32:38,110 --> 01:32:39,530 Do I have a motion to die? 1203 01:32:40,730 --> 01:32:41,770 I'll make a motion to approve. 1204 01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:44,030 In the rules, you have a second. 1205 01:32:44,530 --> 01:32:45,010 Open the web. 1206 01:32:45,810 --> 01:32:46,610 Any questions? 1207 01:32:46,990 --> 01:32:47,790 Is everybody reviewed? 1208 01:32:48,150 --> 01:32:49,870 Are they all in favor? 1209 01:32:50,610 --> 01:32:51,050 I have a vote. 1210 01:32:53,190 --> 01:32:54,270 I have a vote of 14. 1211 01:32:54,530 --> 01:32:55,250 Citizens comments? 1212 01:32:58,900 --> 01:33:00,440 I think we've got two. 1213 01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:03,320 P. Vallejo, concerns. 1214 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,440 Would you like to step up to the map? 1215 01:33:10,350 --> 01:33:11,270 You've got three minutes. 1216 01:33:14,150 --> 01:33:20,770 The average person does not have the time to come and sit and listen and wait to be heard. 1217 01:33:21,510 --> 01:33:27,470 After you have all been through most of the agenda and have made decisions that affect the citizens and the taxpayers. 1218 01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:32,270 I'm here to share my concerns or complaints, whatever you want to call them. 1219 01:33:32,910 --> 01:33:38,490 You make decisions, and many times you have not received or read all the facts that are presented. 1220 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:48,220 Ultimately, you are our voice, our vote and our representative in all the endeavors that 1221 01:33:48,220 --> 01:33:52,940 affect us in Del Rio and in how the taxpayers' money is used. 1222 01:33:53,660 --> 01:34:00,020 Whether you like it or not, we the citizens and taxpayers have the right to ask questions 1223 01:34:00,020 --> 01:34:02,440 of each one of you and we expect answers. 1224 01:34:03,740 --> 01:34:09,400 Some city of Del Rio employees are taking it upon themselves to do things, maybe even 1225 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,800 policy that does not exist and make a policy as they please. 1226 01:34:13,420 --> 01:34:15,060 You are not overlooking these matters. 1227 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,880 Example, there's a city-wide problem with stray animals, cats and dogs, and wildlife. 1228 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:25,380 The council may determine what approves, but approves the policy that is to be followed 1229 01:34:25,380 --> 01:34:29,660 when people report or when city employees have to deal with animal issues. 1230 01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:35,800 If there is a policy in place whereby prohibiting the feeding of stray animals, 1231 01:34:36,140 --> 01:34:37,580 please make it known to us. 1232 01:34:38,180 --> 01:34:46,420 This is a city problem. You should not be placing the responsibility or the burden on the citizens to buy traps and to trap such animals. 1233 01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:53,220 Many times it is easier for an elderly person to feed the stray and have the animals move on to another house. 1234 01:34:54,540 --> 01:34:59,100 We have another issue with the water, the sewer and the gas rates. 1235 01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:14,720 People that are living in Del Rio 65 and older are unable to pay a lot of the rates and there is no breaking down during the year because you stick to the rates and you stick to whatever you've decided you're going to charge. 1236 01:35:15,740 --> 01:35:22,600 Payment plans are set up, but most of the time these people don't really have the money, so they're going to have to do without your services. 1237 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:40,980 One other thing. When I ask questions of some of you, I am directed to go and speak with some other employee of the city because you don't know and they know more than you. That should not be the case. You should be up to date with the information and you should have a specific answer for us. 1238 01:35:40,980 --> 01:35:47,700 The airline issue is of utmost importance, but after two weeks, we finally got an update. 1239 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,020 That is unacceptable. 1240 01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,220 And nothing was posted on the agenda. 1241 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,460 It was just brought up. 1242 01:35:55,700 --> 01:36:01,720 When you approve a project to be done, you approve the funds and you approve who will complete the project and how long it will take. 1243 01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:09,440 If there are any changes in any set agreement, then you need to place the item on the agenda and deal with it. 1244 01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:11,680 A prime example is brown plaza. 1245 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:17,340 For months, we've been asking why construction has stopped and why it will resume. 1246 01:36:17,980 --> 01:36:20,620 And the only thing I can tell you is that it is a safety issue. 1247 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,880 The plastic that you have around that plaza causes liabilities. 1248 01:36:26,820 --> 01:36:29,240 There are ditches. 1249 01:36:29,780 --> 01:36:30,600 There are holes. 1250 01:36:30,900 --> 01:36:31,380 There are things. 1251 01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:32,960 And the fencing is still down. 1252 01:36:33,340 --> 01:36:34,940 Today, the fencing was still down. 1253 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,860 And they only worked for two days, yesterday and today. 1254 01:36:41,250 --> 01:36:49,030 Well, this is ridiculous. This is really ridiculous, because if you're going to give us three minutes to talk, when do we ever get a voice? 1255 01:36:49,810 --> 01:36:50,230 You can always. 1256 01:36:50,690 --> 01:36:52,350 Yeah, you can always come back next week. 1257 01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:55,210 No, no, no. You can always meet with me, man. Your door is always open. 1258 01:36:55,570 --> 01:37:00,350 No. The thing is, is that we need to let you all know what's going on, and you need to let us know what's going on. 1259 01:37:00,970 --> 01:37:03,050 Appreciate that. Next, Carla? 1260 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:18,640 I'm here speaking for my cousin Denise Curley. 1261 01:37:19,480 --> 01:37:23,240 She uses the airline three to four times a year. 1262 01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:26,300 She lives in Oakland, New Jersey, and in Delaware. 1263 01:37:27,700 --> 01:37:31,180 She's been basically trying to see what she can do 1264 01:37:31,180 --> 01:37:33,160 and what we can do to get it going. 1265 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,640 This is something she wrote that I'm going to read now. 1266 01:37:38,740 --> 01:37:44,620 What I did, basically, regarding the airport is to get in touch with radio stations, 1267 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:48,660 TV stations like Fox, PBS, and local radio. 1268 01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,860 I got in touch with, or tried to get in touch with, Senator Gonzales, 1269 01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:55,220 but he refuses to take my calls. 1270 01:37:57,740 --> 01:38:00,840 Local levels, well, there's been no response from main representatives. 1271 01:38:01,420 --> 01:38:03,360 That's what I've done regarding the airport. 1272 01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:12,860 and government people at the airport like Border Patrol and Del Rio Police said they'd be more willing to sign any petitions to keep airport open. 1273 01:38:13,300 --> 01:38:20,660 When I spoke to the airline staff that were flying in from Del Rio, they said that there is no issue in staffing. 1274 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:28,120 The airlines, there's plenty of people who fly, its majority of what they believe happened is that there is a profit margin 1275 01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:32,480 and that's missing for the CFO and the CEO of the airlines. 1276 01:38:33,820 --> 01:38:39,140 And we lost our grant for federal funding, and that's the real issue. 1277 01:38:39,580 --> 01:38:43,760 This has nothing to do with the pilot charges. There is no pilot charges. 1278 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:49,820 Like I said, she flies in three or four times a year, of course, flies in, flies out. 1279 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:55,080 And when there was an airline here, she would have to rent a car to come down. 1280 01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:01,960 And she has a vehicle here but you know that's like extra money also that's all I have for that 1281 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:07,920 but also as far as a liability people waiting outside the train station should have a place to go in. 1282 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:13,200 What if they get hurt or they get held up, sitting out to a 3 o'clock in the morning 1283 01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,280 so we should consider doing something with that building. 1284 01:39:17,380 --> 01:39:19,700 Thank you customer locals for bringing that up. 1285 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,140 I appreciate it. Thank you. 1286 01:39:21,660 --> 01:39:22,020 That's all I have. 1287 01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:35,340 So, we have executive session items to exit the session at number 15, an attorney consultation. 1288 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,220 Oh, I'm sorry, I've already read this before. 1289 01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,100 So, you just need no action on any of them. 1290 01:39:41,140 --> 01:39:41,220 No. 1291 01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:41,620 Okay. 1292 01:39:44,340 --> 01:39:46,660 9.23 and the speed was a turn.