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It's 6.30 p.m., August 2nd, 2023. I'd like to call tonight's session of the City of Delaware Planning Commission to order. Could the clerk please read the roll. Mr. Steltzer. Here. Mr. Bacari. Mr. Stroud. Here. Mr. Nana. Mr. Pearl. Here. Vice Chairman Hoffman. Here. Chairman Simpson. Here. Do we have a motion to excuse, Commissioner Nana? Motion to excuse, Commissioner Nana. Got a motion by Councilman Hoffman.

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Second, second by Commissioner Prall.

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Mr. Steltzer?

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Yes.

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Mr. Bacari?

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Yes.

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Mr. Stroud?

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Yes.

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Mr. Prall?

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Yes.

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Vice Chairman Hoffman?

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Yes.

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Chairman Simpson?

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Yes.

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Moving on to the next item on the agenda, the approval of the motion summary of the planning commission

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meeting held on June 7th, 2023.

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As recorded and transcribed, what's the wish of the commission?

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move for approval of the Emotion Summary.

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I am motion by Councilman Hoffman.

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Second.

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And a second by Commissioner Prall.

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Mr. Steltzer.

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Yes.

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Mr. Bacari.

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Yes.

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Mr. Stroud.

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Yes.

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Mr. Prall.

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Yes.

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Vice Chairman Hoffman.

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Yes.

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Chairman Simpson.

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Yes.

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All right.

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Moving on to the next item.

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What's tonight's agenda?

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Regular business.

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Could the clerk please read item A into the role?

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Item A, 2023-2063, a request by racetrack ink for approval of a final development plan for a racetrack gas station on approximately 4.6 acres on properties on B3 Community Business District, located north of US 36, date Route 37 and just west of the future Davidson Lane.

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And he'll be presenting for us tonight.

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I will be.

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Okay.

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Just a second to get the slides up here.

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And Chairman Simpson for the record.

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Mr. Nana's walked in at 632.

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Okay.

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So this is request 2023-2063.

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Request by racetrack.

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Incorporated for approval of a final development plan for a racetrack gas station on approximately 4.6 acres.

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on property zone B3, community business district located north of US 3637 and just west of the future Davidson lane.

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It's working, there's a little bit of a delay, just give it a second and it'll catch up.

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Hopefully I didn't click all the way to the end.

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It's possible.

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Hopefully this stays up as it should.

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Sorry about this.

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So

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brief preview of the ones that will come later.

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I would just start and we'll catch up.

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Okay.

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It does follow in the recording.

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There's just a delay in showing now on the TV and I need to have been able to figure out that.

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Okay.

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Now we have the right one up.

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Let's see.

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So where was I now?

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Sorry.

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Okay. Sorry.

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The subject site is located north of US 3637, Sumberry Road, and it's just west of the future

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Davidson Lane extension.

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The property encompass approximately 4.6 acres in a zone B3 community business.

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As part of this development plan process, the applicant has split this lot, which has been

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approved through our office, is awaiting recording here, and from an existing 25 acre tract to create

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this separate parcel.

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The property to the north-south and east of the existing partial or zone B3 while the property to the west is within the township is owned FR-1, which is farm-resistant district.

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They're proposing to construct a gas station with an approximately 6,000 eight square foot convenience store that'll include eight fueling islands for passenger vehicles, five fueling islands for larger vehicles and a total of 34 parking spaces.

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The site would have three access points.

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The northern two would be for large vehicles, semi-trucks, the north, for the northern most-

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Would be the entrance, which would then loop around the, through the fueling island, and then the middle access point would be exit for large vehicles. The southern access point would be a, both an entrance and exit for smaller vehicles and provide access to the convenience store. On the west of the building is proposed to be a dumpster and also underground fuel storage. And also for the north west

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The extra important of the property will be underground storm water detention.

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Subject site, excuse me,

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the subject site is defined in the Delaware Together Concert Plan as a community scale activity center as much as the corridor is surrounding somebody road.

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As part of the Far East Side focus area, it is important for development to create infrastructure connections.

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The proposed extension of Davidson Lane would satisfy this goal for the conference of plan by taking a step towards connecting future built more drive to US 36-37.

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As proposed this application aligns with the Delaware together plan and commitment, excuse me, in concert with the market needs for fueling stations along the very busy state and national roadway.

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The applicant would need to obtain engineering approvals, including any stormwater and utility issues that need to be worked out through the engineering and utilities departments.

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I'll read comments regarding the layout and details of the project are preliminary and subject to modification or change based on the final technical review by the engineering department once the final complete plan set is reviewed.

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The applicant would be required to construct an extension of Davidson Lane from summary road to the northern boundary of the subject 4.6 acre parcel which is indicated as approved through the thoroughfare plan.

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Davidson Lane is noticed item number 12, commercial connector road in the plan as part of the ODOT access management plan along the quarter all access to the site would be from the new Davidson Lane.

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and there would be no access directly from the US 36 to air out 37.

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And for pedestrian connectivity, the extension of Davidson Lane will be a public street.

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And that will be required to construct sidewalk on the west side of the road,

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fronting their development when they construct the road.

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As this and other sites in the vicinity continue to be developed,

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Bill Mordrive gets extended to Davidson Lane as should on the third for plain.

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There would be a continuation of sidewalk and bike path to provide extended pedestrian connectivity throughout the corridor.

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Additionally, the applicant will be required to pay a fee and lieu of construction for a sidewalk along the Sombre Road at a rate as to be determined by the city engineer of the time of final engineering approval.

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The applicant has worked extensively with the city and is proposing a foresighted brick convenience store building with dep尊 of fiber cement access

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in a dark-based color.

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They're going to wrap the building in a dollar blue-vain limestone veneer wanescoating

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with blue liver hangs and red door surrounds and roof outline details.

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The dumpster enclosure would be constructed the same brick and limestone veneer

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and the fuel canopies would also have the red accents color

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with brick and limestone veneer columns to match the building.

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There's currently, or this is currently open agricultural land,

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So there are no qualified trees on site, require removal or replacement.

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And then with landscaping, a buffer along the west and north boundaries of the site would

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align with the buffer requirements zoning code. And they're proposing evergreen trees planted

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every 20 feet on center, staggered in a staggered alignment to satisfy this requirement.

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Additionally, they're going to provide parking lot buffering along Summary Road in Davidson Lane where the parking lot will be visible from the public right of way, which this would be shrubbery that would be at least three feet of tall at the time of planting and they're also going to provide street trees along the Summary Road in Davidson Lane and parking lot trees within the landscape islands of the parking lot.

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And the applicant is going to be required to extend any necessary utilities to the site to the first extent of the site in order to allow service to adjacent properties as termed by the city.

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And the applicant has finalized the sign plan for the site and is proposed building fuel canopy and ground science.

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You're going to have once.

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We have a sign on the southern fueling canopy facing summary road and one sign on the northern fueling canopy facing Davidson Lane. Now, the building will have three similar racetrack signs on the north, south, and east elevations. In addition, that can also proposing some mural type artwork on the south elevation to enhance brown branding. A ground sign is proposed on the southeast corner of the site from summary road and Davidson Lane. It would be approximately 13 feet in length and no more than 12 inches wider.

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to signary and will not exceed nine feet in height.

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I'll have a difficult gas pricer for the zoning code.

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The ground sign would require dollar blue vane limestone

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based to achieve compliance with the gateways and quarters plane.

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Any directional signage should not be illuminated, which will be there is some already also on the fueling canopies for the north fueling canopy to make sure that the larger vehicles know that that is a exit only from the.

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that they've faced that they've come across when they enter.

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And staff recommends approval of this request by racetrack,

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for approval for a final development plan for racetrack gas station on approximately 4.6 acres.

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Zone B3 Community Business District, located north of US 3637.

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And just west of future days and lane with the following conditions,

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which are listed on the staff report there with a total of 18 conditions.

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Any questions?

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Is there any questions that commission has?

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Appreciate the presentation there, David.

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Appreciate the applicant's time on this project.

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And the patience with this project,

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the applicant was initially going to be on the July planning commission agenda.

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But staff wanted to ensure that plus with a tight turnaround between just a couple of weeks with the mid-July meeting and the current meeting,

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to make all eyes, diodes, cross, so we appreciate them working with staff to ensure we had a complete package for tonight's presentation, and especially with the robust landscaping plan and the strong elevations we see here before staff definitely be strong support of this project here and as David indicated if there's any questions would be happy there and some at this time. Thank you.

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I did want to add one more thing, sorry about that.

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They also required to have a lighting plane that it's used compliance with the zoning

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code that has been submitted and approved by our chief voting official.

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I just wanted to make that note.

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Do we have any questions for staff before we bring the applicant up?

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I'll invite the applicant to come forward, just state your name and your address once you

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reach the desk.

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Brennan section with Race Track 200, Gallery of Parkways, Southeast, Atlanta, Georgia, 30339.

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And Josh Long, CSO, Engineering and Java, 466, Randall Road, Dollar Ohio.

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Is there anything you want to additionally want to add to staff's presentation?

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I did want to thank you all for the opportunity to be a part of the Delaware community and

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thanks to staff for all their help throughout this project.

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One thing I did want to point out that it's not reflected in the development plans that have been before you today is at the request of the landowner.

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Mr. Davidson, who were purchasing the property from, he would like additional utility extensions about halfway along the Davidson lane extension to help with development of his other property.

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And so we don't have to tear the road up when somebody does elect to come in on that side of the Davidson lane instruction.

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So I did want to flush it out with you and have that in the record tonight as well.

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Any commentary on that, Jordan, or is that something that could be handled offline by staff?

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I don't see any concern with that, we can work them out, work it out with them, as long as it's understood that it's

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developer driven and paid for with the project and no city costs is included.

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I would concur with the engineering on that comment, I think those type of details we can work out during engineering plan review.

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Any objection to any of the conditions in the report?

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No, we're in agreement with all of them.

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Okay,

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I have a question, Mr. Davidson, I don't know if he's referring, if you're referring to additional parcels beyond yours, but is there any plans for the portion of the parcel north of where the gas station is going to be?

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I'm not aware of any, at this time I believe there's some portion that is owned B3, and then the extension of built more road I believe would be to the north of that, but other than that, I'm not aware of any plans.

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It's just gonna be a head.

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24-7 service? That's good.

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Well, there'd be like a little cafeteria inside there, or is it, you know, that's been a popular thing around here, is adding, you know, food stations? Sure. I would benchmark ourselves with sheets. We don't have a made-to-order program. That's as robust as them. We're focused on more of an efficient process where you can come in and get what you need and leave, but we do have a hot food order with items that are prepared fresh in the store.

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Any other questions for the office?

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I think the only thing I had is I'm actually I'm only familiar with race track and name I actually don't know that I've been in a race track

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I can't think of one that is near here. Where are you? I guess within proximity to Delaware? Where else would you be located? Are you in Columbus?

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We have a couple stores that are scoped in the central Ohio area that are in various stages of permitting.

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They all kind of came in a wave and this was the first one in our expansion plan.

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There are two under construction in Indianapolis.

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Currently, the first one should open in September, October of this year.

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And then there are several stores in Louisville and around that area in Kentucky that we have as well.

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Okay, so your home base is in Atlanta and you're working your way north.

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That's slowly but surely, right?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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That makes total sense.

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Anything else?

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Are there any members of the public here this evening who wish to comment on this particular case?

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All right, seeing none, I'll bring it back to the commission for either further deliberation or action this evening.

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I'll move for approval of case number 2023-2063, along with the conditions in the staff report.

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I have a motion by Councilman Hoffman.

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Second.

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And I have a second by Commissioner Nan Ibley.

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Mr.

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Steltzer?

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Yes.

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Mr. Bakari?

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Yes.

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Mr. Stroud?

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Yes.

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Mr. Nana?

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Yes.

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Mr. Paul?

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Yes.

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Vice Chairman Hoffman?

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Yes.

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Chairman Simpson?

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Yes.

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All right.

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Motion carries.

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Good luck, gentlemen.

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All right.

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Moving on to the next item on tonight's agenda.

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Could the clerk please read item B into the record?

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Case

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B, 2023-2378, a request by Addison Delaware, LLC for approval of a street vacation for Addison Farms on approximately 0.240 acres located on Hope Lane South of Kensington Drive.

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Thank you, Elaine. I'll be presenting this case here tonight. Just one moment.

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All right.

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All right, so the request we have here for tonight for this particular application is relatively simple in nature and what the request entails, although it does have a little bit of a complex history in relation to the overall Addison Farms development right away vacations are a planning item that we have seen before in the past, typically they're in conjunction with the larger scale development to help facilitate access.

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In this particular event, the vacation of Hope Lane South of Kensington was a requirement

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from the city engineer, as the U.H. Autison Farms development will not be extending this

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roadway in the city with the development south of this site, having a pretty robust

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the best mound and landscape being that would effectively with you extending Hope Lane South would impede this buffer for the development towards the south and thus with this stub street not being extended ever in the future, it was desired by the city engineer to see this roadway not only be vacated, but the public infrastructure removed that way this would not be something that would need to be maintained by the city.

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but would also just make practical sense.

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So throughout the development of the Addison Farms case, we've worked with the overall master developer, and his team will be the one leading this part.

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A particular item, so this will be a little bit separate from the other case we'll have here tonight for being led by Redwood for the final development plan of their sub-area. This would subject vacation, more in a sense part of the overall final development plan and infrastructure for Addison Farms. And thus is wide with the lip proposed staff conditions. We've kind of linked the completion of the road vacation and the removal of public infrastructure

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with items such as the sidewalk and pavement, et cetera, to be part of the overall infrastructure and development plan.

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With that said, this is a relatively simple request.

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We've indicated with the developer that in the event that the neighboring property owners do not wish to have effectively their half of this vacation become part of their property, the master developer would have this space be maintained by the Addison Farms.

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homeowners association or master association, thus this land would not be maintained by the city in the future and there would be a sense of ownership with the land if you will.

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With that said, staff would certainly recommend approval of this case with the listed staff conditions and if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them at this time.

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Thank you.

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I

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have a question.

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So I recall going back to the old thoroughfare plans that Kensington and those roads were

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shown to extend that there was no intention for those roads to remain stub streets.

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And that was one of the points that we made to residents early on in the Addison process

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who wanted those to remain stub streets.

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Is there, was there anything like that with regard to Hope Lane as far as how they wanted to extend it because I don't recall and it would seem inconsistent of us if we would defur deviate from the thoroughfare plan for Hope Lane but hold to it for the other roads in this area.

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in this development. And I just wanted to ask about that point.

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So that was something that we did review and doubts, both internally and with the Alice

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and Properties team and with Hopeland specifically in the close proximity of what would be the

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extended heritage drive in the potential development of what we now see as Redwood sub area E.

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It didn't make sense to connect a public street for

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the purpose of providing access to a private development that would otherwise have access from heritage in Merrick.

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This was one of two stub streets that we, three actually, stub streets that we as public works determined didn't need to continue.

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The other was hay loft and that had a lot to do with a playground that was existing there that's being utilized by the community and Taylor Avenue which is also in a close network of adjacent streets that already had connectivity to the area, so it's being called a fact.

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So this thought process did go through and it was considered in your accurately stating that it was on the thoroughfare plan.

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It was great for future planning not knowing how it would be laid out or how the land might

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have been utilized by a previous developer about 20 years ago.

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I hope that answers your question.

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I appreciate that, Karen.

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While planning would typically like to see all the roads have interconnectedness across developments and subdivisions,

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I think with the specific development to the immediate south of this street being a private site

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that would have private roadways maintained by that specific development, sometimes you do have public roads that transition into private roads but it's pretty seldom and usually it's better to have it be through a main access point and also with the out of respect out of the community making a pretty strong indication of wanting to have a really robust mounting and buffering between the existing subdivision and future development.

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And I think at the end of the day, it makes sense to have the amount and vacation of this specific piece of road kind of trumped the overall connectiveness as carry indicated.

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I think we'll still have a pretty strong interconnectiveness of this area through the extensions of other roadways too.

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So is this area, is it currently platted as part of Addison, or is it going to have to be that way? The whole plane would be platted per the Oakhurst subdivision. So this would need legislative action to vacate this portion or right away. Okay. And will the sidewalk then have to be extended, right? Yeah, part of the, yeah, part of the requirements would be for the applicant to

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to remove public and infrastructure, so that would include things such as the north and south running sidewalks you see in the road pavement itself and those type of items, but also remedy the Kensington to that would just need to be per the city engineer, but I believe that would include things like putting in the curb along there and connecting the sidewalk along there and cleaning up the site.

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Has

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there been any contact with these property owners that date this is something that they'd prefer versus the connected connectivity for the third of our plan?

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I know that they would have preferred to not have Kensington, for example, to connect, so I'm just curious.

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Ultimately, I would defer to the applicant for the full extent of outreach.

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I don't believe we've communicated with the public to see if there was an intent to have this road extended or not.

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However, the applicant had indicated these reached out to the immediate adjacent property owners on to the east and west of the subject vacation.

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And my understanding that one of the property owners has already indicated a desire to have, because normally when you vacate right away,

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kind of give a piece to each immediately adjacent property owner and we've received communication that one of the property owners would, you know, like to see, you know, reception of their half, I don't believe there's been an update from the second property owner in the event that they don't want their half that piece would be maintained by the Addison Farms Master Association for just maintenance of the yard space effectively.

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If the applicants here this evening might should have come forward to the to the table.

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Just state your name and address for the record.

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Brian Burkart with Civil Environmental Consultants, 250 Old Wilson Bridge Road,

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Worthyton, Ohio, 43085.

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Thank you. Did you have anything you wanted to add, this time's presentation?

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Just that, just what Jordan said, that the developer has reached out to both homeowners.

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We're still waiting on the other one, so open had some type of confirmation this week or next week.

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Okay, no concerns with any other conditions.

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Okay, do we have any questions for the applicant?

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Easy crowd tonight.

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Thank you.

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Are there any members of the public here this evening who wish to comment on this case?

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All right, seeing none, I'll bring it back to the commission for further deliberation or action.

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I'll make a motion to approve 2023-2378 street vacation for Addison Farms.

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I have a motion by Commissioner Prall.

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I'll second the motion.

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And a second by Commissioner Straub.

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Mr. Steltzer.

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Yes.

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Mr. Bacari.

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Yes.

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Mr. Straub.

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Yes.

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Mr. Nana.

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Yes.

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Mr. Pearl.

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Yes.

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Vice Chairman Hoffman.

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Yes.

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Chairman Simpson.

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Yes.

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All right, thank you.

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All right, moving along the agenda.

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Could the clerk please read the next item C into the agenda or to the record?

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I'll

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give you more time, Impal.

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That was slow, low.

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KC, 2023-2379, every request by Redwood, USA, for approval of a final development plan for Redwood at Addison Farm Sub Area E on approximately 52.29 acres.

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Thank you, Elaine. I want to be presenting this case tonight.

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While the PowerPoint is being loading up here, this is, of course, the referenced section that we were just discussing with respect to the vacation of Hope Lane, which is directly to the north of this section.

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It's just not going as well as I would like.

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There we go. Hold on, I promise.

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All right. Well, we will now wait for the location slide to load. But just as a brief overview, again, this is part of the

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the overall Addison Farms development.

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This is Redwood, which is, they have an existing community in Delaware at Quail Pass behind

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Meyer, and this is Subarea E of the Addison development is located in the center of the

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overall Addison Farms subdivision.

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As far as zoning, this is part of the Addison Farms plan mixed use overlay.

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It is known to A1 and R3 PMU, so there's an agricultural and one family residential

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district underlay to the overlay district, they would have to adhere to the Addison

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Farms development text.

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In a moment there will be an aerial image of the site.

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And I'm

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going to go ahead and skip past that. The final development plan is the next step and the

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final step in the development plan process for Redwood and Addison Farms. The preliminary

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development plan was approved in February of this year, and there are very minor changes

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to the current final development plan.

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Those are based on conditions of approval and comments that were provided during the plan review process of that preliminary plan.

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Excuse me, so the applicant is proposing 280 apartment units.

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I will note that the original development text that I mentioned earlier for Addison Farms actually approved up to 315 units in this sub area, so that is a reduction of over 11% in this sub area.

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These units would be spread among 45 single story buildings.

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They would all be two better units with a two car garage.

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They would also all have two car driveways.

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Excuse me, primary access to this site would be from Future Merrick Boulevard to the south.

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There would also be secondary access on the west from Heritage Boulevard,

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which would be extended and then on the east from Bruce Road,

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which will also extend to the wood hall roundabout.

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These roads would need to be constructed prior to,

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or concurrently with this development as a condition of approval.

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Those roads are being constructed by the master developer as part of the approved overall infrastructure plan.

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The applicant is proposing doing this project in two phases.

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The first would be the east side of the development with 145 units in 24 buildings.

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The second would be the western side of the site with 135 units in 21 buildings.

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There will be an internal private road network.

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work. These will be 22 feet wide with 4-foot integrated sidewalk. Essentially, the sidewalk

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will be the same level as the road, but the concrete will be dyed at different color,

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are stained at different color from the drive aisles. This is consistent with the third

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phase of Redwood at Quail Pass behind Meyer. The applicant is working with our engineering

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department to reconfigure specifically the access points from the public rights of way into

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this site to have wider entranceways and potentially a separated pedestrian path in those locations

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to provide safer access for pedestrians bicycles and cars. So that's not fully determined

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at this time. It would not cause any major alterations to the site. It would just be some minor tweaking

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in engineering terms that I do not fully understand. As to the rest of this development, there would

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Like I mentioned before, each unit would have two car driveway, these would be at least 21 feet long.

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This would keep cars or trucks with extended beds from hanging into the street.

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Our standard parking space in the cities required to be 19 feet, so they're providing a little bit of extra length to avoid blocking any sidewalks.

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There would also be no parking on these internal private streets, so the applicant is providing just over 100 additional parking spaces scattered throughout the site.

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This is consistent with other developments of this type.

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There's also just under 26 acres of mostly active or mostly excuse me, passive open space in this area.

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Most of it's on the south side around the ponds.

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Those are ponds that serve-

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There's a large portion of the Addison Farm site. They're not just for the subdivision. That's why they're so big for the development that's happening here. There's also a substantial amount of tree preservation in this open space. A lot of it is around the existing stream that runs through sort of the southern portion of this site. But additionally, there is a pretty substantial 60-foot buffer on the northeast side of the site, buffering the existing ochre subdivision to the north. That was a requirement of the original Addison Farms.

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approval. On the west side of the northern boundary of the site there will be an 8-foot

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high earthen mound with plantings that are a minimum six feet tall at time of planting.

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These are required to be evergreen trees and this will have to be irrigated in order

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to ensure that those plants are maintained. This again would be a 60-foot wide buffer and

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looking at the buffering plan here which will show up on our screens in a moment you'll

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see that the applicant has provided a cross-section view of what the existing homes,

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the impacts of the redwood development on the existing homes as far as distance, height, and things like that.

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The City Arborist and Parks and Natural Resources Director will inspect the site

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as it is constructed to determine if additional plantings are required and at that time they would work with the applicant and their contractors to ensure that all of the plantings are

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are at par with what we would expect of the city.

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I am going to skip ahead so I apologize that our slides are taking a moment to load here.

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But these buildings are proposed to be 4.5 and 8, excuse me, 4.6 and 8 unit buildings.

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And the elevations that were provided by the applicant are in conformance both with the development text and the approved elevations from the preliminary development plan.

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So all in all staff would recommend approval of this request with all staff conditions and I'm happy to answer any questions.

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Appreciate the presentation, Anna, and appreciate the patients from the applicant who also had initially been planning to be on the July planning commission agenda.

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But just due to staff wanting to draw the details were wrapped up for a complete presentation.

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We appreciate their patients and giving us a next couple of weeks there to get through all that.

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And I think that was certainly worthwhile.

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I think the proposal we have here is pretty strong and fulfills a lot of the comments and discussions we've had throughout the overall.

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Addison Farms discussion and I would concur support of approval for this case here.

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Thank you.

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All right, here's your challenge, Janet.

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Can you go back to the site plan, because it just might be helpful for everyone to see where Hope Lane is actually at and corner up there.

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Let me try to count my slides backwards.

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Oh, perfect, thank you, I will not touch the clicker any further.

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You know, maybe a suggestion that, you know, for City Council, the City Council have to do the street vacation approval as well.

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Yeah, that'll do the same for the council.

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You know, almost like that little site plan to show where it's actually at now versus where heritage is coming over and stuff like that.

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It just might be a little helpful to show that location being right next week.

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Yeah, no, I absolutely appreciate that I'm making note of that.

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Thank you.

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For those who do not have plans, commissioners, you should all have plans in your packets.

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But hopefully, it is on the northwest corner of this site.

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It would essentially, if it were maintained without being vacated, it would essentially

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dead end directly into this eight-foot mound.

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Otherwise, there would just be a grassy lawn leading up to that eight-foot buffer.

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To put a support ticket in, to see if we can, it won't get fixed for this meeting, but my council will, hopefully, it's improved.

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That's

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so funny. It took 10 minutes after you.

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Do we have any other questions for staff before we invite the applicant forward?

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All right. At this time, I'll invite the applicant forward.

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If you could just state your name and address once you reach the desk.

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We'll share 7-0-0-7 East Pleasant Valley Road Independence Ohio 4-4-1-3-1.

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Do you have anything to add to staff's presentation?

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No, nothing much to add.

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Okay.

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Great presentation.

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Thank you, Anna.

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Thank you, Jordan.

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I would appreciate the collaboration on addressing the comments prior to this meeting.

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We're extremely excited for this neighborhood.

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It's been really cool seeing all the-

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Local progress that's going on on on American heritage right now, and we're looking forward to continuing moving forward. So I'm happy to answer any other questions you might have. Sure. Any concerns on any of the conditions? No. Okay. Questions for the applicant?

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We're the property land property line as to the west on sub area E. Is that that's part of another sub of the other sub area? Is that correct?

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And is that just going to be open space or with another sub-area as their plan to have some kind of housing over there?

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So that sub-area is ANH, which has already been through the preliminary and final process.

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I believe that section one of sub-area is ANH, excuse me, carries shaking your head now.

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It is in sub-area is ANH, it will be single-family residences that will back up to those first couple of buildings.

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I think you are correct. I think you did. I wish this thing was a call to sex, but I do believe it's part of section one.

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I thought so, I just wanted to make sure.

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Is there going to be any onsite amenities specific to the Redwood part, not the rest of the development, just specifically to this one?

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There is not.

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Our residents will utilize the amenities as part of the overall item some farms master plan is bike lane going along Merrick Parkway, but there's no specific onsite amenities.

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is

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that consistent with quail pass?

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Yes.

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I believe there will be a dog wash station if

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count that as a vanity.

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That sounds like a fancy thing to call a hose.

418
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:56,800
But we like it nonetheless.

419
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:01,980
Well, there's a dog park down near the other one,

420
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,260
so maybe there's no dog park down here.

421
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:06,960
but they don't have one, they might need one over there.

422
00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:07,820
I

423
00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:13,610
will mention there are some, though privately maintained,

424
00:42:13,870 --> 00:42:19,230
publicly accessible open spaces and playgrounds and things like that throughout the overall Addison Farms development

425
00:42:19,230 --> 00:42:25,570
that will be interconnected with this development as well as all of the others through bike paths, sidewalks, and roadways.

426
00:42:27,610 --> 00:42:28,490
I have a question.

427
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:35,170
Heading south on Heritage Boulevard to turn into this area,

428
00:42:35,170 --> 00:42:37,110
Is there going to be a left turn line there?

429
00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:46,110
It doesn't look like it on the just eyeballing it from this map here, but just curious.

430
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:54,120
I would say at this point in time, no, it would be a product of the TIS.

431
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,460
And the final traffic impact study, which is the TIS, has not been submitted for review yet.

432
00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:06,000
but although the developer is working with his consultants to get that submitted.

433
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:15,460
I think the primary point of contact or point of access will be Merrick Blvard, and

434
00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:18,480
there should be adequate access there specifically.

435
00:43:19,060 --> 00:43:26,060
Kind of stay tuned, but I would say based upon the way it's all on forward, on Bruce and Heritage.

436
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,540
No.

437
00:43:33,220 --> 00:43:34,880
Any other questions for the applicant?

438
00:43:37,090 --> 00:43:37,870
All right, thank you.

439
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:38,210
Thank you.

440
00:43:38,810 --> 00:43:42,710
Are there any members of the public here this evening to speak on this particular case?

441
00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:49,090
Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the Commission for either further deliberation or action this evening.

442
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,380
I'll make a motion to approve.

443
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,580
2023-2379 final development plan with all staff recommendations.

444
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,820
I have a motion by Commissioner Paul.

445
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:08,020
No second, the second by Commissioner Steltzer.

446
00:44:10,030 --> 00:44:11,090
Mr. Steltzer?

447
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:11,970
Yes.

448
00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:12,850
Mr. Bacari?

449
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:13,410
Yes.

450
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:14,330
Mr. Stroud?

451
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:14,810
Yes.

452
00:44:15,070 --> 00:44:15,570
Mr. Nana?

453
00:44:16,030 --> 00:44:16,210
Yes.

454
00:44:16,410 --> 00:44:16,910
Mr. Pearl?

455
00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:17,410
Yes.

456
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:18,790
Vice Chairman Hoffman?

457
00:44:19,070 --> 00:44:19,510
Yes.

458
00:44:19,850 --> 00:44:20,350
Chairman Simpson?

459
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:21,610
Yes.

460
00:44:21,970 --> 00:44:22,510
Motion carries.

461
00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:23,410
Thank you very much.

462
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:24,110
Good luck.

463
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,560
Whenever you're ready, Elaine, you can read item D into the record.

464
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:41,940
You take as much time as you need.

465
00:44:43,810 --> 00:44:46,410
I mean, the computer is going to do what it wants, so.

466
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:57,990
you gentlemen in the back can move a little closer if you'd like you could

467
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:59,970
move maybe to the front row not to put

468
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,100
I don't want you on this spot or anything.

469
00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:33,850
Case D, Terra-Ultra, section 6 and 9. Case 1, 2023-2728, a request by Terra-Ultra LLC for approval of a final development plan for Terra-Ultra, section 6 and 9, on approximately 48.446 acres containing 96 single-family lots on property-zoned A1 PMU, agricultural district with a plan mixed use overlay district. Case 2, 2021,

470
00:45:33,850 --> 00:45:40,390
23-27-29, a request by Tara Ulta, LLC for approval of a final subdivision

471
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:48,170
plat for Tara Ulta, section 6, on approximately 27.231 acres containing 42 single

472
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:53,610
family lots on property-zoned A1 PMU, agricultural district with a planned mix

473
00:45:53,970 --> 00:46:00,950
juice overlay district and located on Bucini Court and Pisa Road.

474
00:46:00,950 --> 00:46:02,770
I'm sure that is wrong.

475
00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:04,250
Close enough.

476
00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:13,390
Case three, 2023-2731, a request by Tara Ulta, LLC for approval of a final subdivision

477
00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:20,510
plan for Tara Ulta Section 9 on approximately 21.215 acres containing 54 single-family

478
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:26,470
lots on property-zoned A1 PMU, agricultural district with a planned mix use overlay district

479
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:32,310
and located on Elba Court, Missola Court, Stockdale Farms Drive, and Volterra Court.

480
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:36,140
Thank you, Elaine.

481
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,800
That was quite the mouthful.

482
00:46:38,580 --> 00:46:40,720
I will be presenting this case as well tonight.

483
00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:53,100
All right, so this is for the next two sections of the Terra-Alta subdivision.

484
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:57,920
I will stall for a moment while it's loading here.

485
00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:04,060
As an overall thing to remember, so Terra-Alta was originally the Terra-Alta subdivision to the North,

486
00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:18,280
With stock deal farms to the south and what's referred to as the Rogers property in the center, those have all been re-zoned several times, and ultimately were combined in 2020 to create one large subdivision with 870 approximately dwelling units.

487
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:32,760
So this is for section 6 and 9. Section 6, as you can see, is on the north side of the site, north of Terra, all to drive just west of section 5, which has been approved, plated, and homes are being built in that section.

488
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,160
our belief home is being built at this time. And then section nine is on the south side of what

489
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:46,180
was originally just Tera Alta. It's on the south side of Tera Alta Drive. As to zoning, this is part

490
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:52,540
of the overall Tera Alta plan mixed use overlay. It has an A1 underlying zoning district in this

491
00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:57,500
particular area as do all of the properties within the overlay district that are adjacent to these

492
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:04,800
sites, all of the parcels to the north and east as well as to the southeast of this site are

493
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,820
zoned FR1 and are located in the township.

494
00:48:09,610 --> 00:48:10,010
Excuse me.

495
00:48:15,890 --> 00:48:17,610
Location within the subdivision,

496
00:48:18,010 --> 00:48:25,120
I think I'm on the correct slide now. So the last time we had some terror also sections come

497
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,480
through commission, someone had requested that we provide a map of all of the locations on the site

498
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,820
that have been approved to this point.

499
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,500
So this is that map.

500
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,840
Six and nine are the two marked in red,

501
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,780
again, on the north and east sides of the site.

502
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:42,460
So at this time, there are nine sections of terror

503
00:48:42,460 --> 00:48:43,460
also that have been approved

504
00:48:43,460 --> 00:48:46,700
and are in various stages of the development process.

505
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,520
Many of them have homes being built

506
00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:51,400
with the infrastructure completed.

507
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:53,180
Some of them have the infrastructure

508
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,280
being constructed at this time,

509
00:48:55,580 --> 00:48:57,920
like sections 10, 11, and 8, I believe.

510
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:06,660
The site plan, when it decides to show up on our screens here, the applicant is proposing

511
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:13,500
42 single-family detached homes on just over 27 acres in section 6. Also in section 6,

512
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:19,620
there would be approximately 14 acres of largely passive open space. Much of this is tree preservation,

513
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:25,340
preservation around some existing water bodies, and then also a path that would connect

514
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:37,620
the Greater Terror Alta Subdivision as well as the larger network of bike paths in the city up to the Hickory Woods Park, which is a preservation park located just north of the Terror Alta Subdivision.

515
00:49:38,140 --> 00:49:44,920
There would also be within that open space a cluster mailbox unit for the residents of that section.

516
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Section 9 would have 54 single-family detached homes on just over 21 acres.

517
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:59,240
There would also be just under an acre of passive open space, it would mostly serve as a buffer to Berlin station road on the east side of the site.

518
00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:30,640
I do want to mention landscaping and tree preservation as this is a site that has some really nice natural features that the applicant is using in a really positive way. So there is substantial tree preservation in these sections, especially in the open spaces I mentioned and around the existing stream, which runs through sort of the center of section six on the north side of the site. The majority of the lots in all of these sections, or in both of these sections, excuse me, have tree preservation zones of at least 20%.

519
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,800
feet on the back of each lot. Some of them have up to 30 and even more as you get around

520
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,480
the courts and things like that on the south side of section 9. One thing of note with

521
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,640
those three preservation zones, all of the lots in section 9 that border existing residential

522
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:52,340
properties in the township have substantial tree buffers of at least 30 feet to really provide

523
00:50:52,340 --> 00:50:58,420
that buffer to those existing residents just to be considerate of those who have lived there before

524
00:50:58,420 --> 00:50:59,540
where the subdivision came in.

525
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,300
There will also be a $500 fee per lot for tree preservation.

526
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,180
There will be due at time of permits in the middle.

527
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,740
This is consistent with the rest of the tarot all to subdivision.

528
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,240
I will note that the design guidelines and things like that for this will be consistent

529
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:14,500
with the rest of tarot all to us.

530
00:51:14,540 --> 00:51:17,480
They are heightened design requirements than was required in our base code.

531
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,140
For example, they need to have at least 35% natural materials like stoner brick

532
00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:23,300
on the fronts of the buildings.

533
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:29,840
things, larger roof overhangs, dimensional shingles, they need a window course in their

534
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,600
garage door, and no blank walls, so no walls on the building that don't have a window

535
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:34,960
or door.

536
00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:39,960
So again, that's one of the benefits of having an overlay district as we can work with applicants

537
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,600
to have heightened design requirements to ensure a higher quality subdivision.

538
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:48,340
So staff would recommend approval of all of these cases with all staff conditions, and I'm

539
00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:50,080
happy to answer any questions at this time.

540
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:50,200
Thank

541
00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:54,060
you, Anna.

542
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,000
Questions for staff?

543
00:51:59,660 --> 00:52:03,800
That was actually me, Anna, who asked for the...

544
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,600
I thought it was, but I couldn't remember staff.

545
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Thank you for that.

546
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,560
It was really just to get a better idea so everybody understands where the non-single family

547
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,640
homes are going to be located within this.

548
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Or that there actually are non-single family homes, you know, as part of this larger development

549
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,980
as well, type of thing.

550
00:52:20,980 --> 00:52:28,300
I would just note that because this is a split school district subdivision,

551
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:35,620
just to remind people of us within the Delaware City schools system as well, type of thing.

552
00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:40,760
I have just one small clarification.

553
00:52:41,620 --> 00:52:47,880
Currently under construction, our section 8 and 10, section 11 is not approved through engineering yet.

554
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:51,240
But they are working on, they were tweaking a little bit.

555
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:55,060
but that would likely be hopefully coming up soon.

556
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,520
I'll let them decide when they come forward, but that one's just not in construction yet.

557
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:10,900
Has there been a larger discussion with the county and with ODOT on the Pollock and 23 interchange?

558
00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:18,340
I mean, if you reround the clock for the city way before any of us was here,

559
00:53:18,340 --> 00:53:36,180
And you know, there was the old bridge over top, you know, over top of volunteer to bring it out, you know, we're having the new development going in type of thing. But since that's not occurring, you know, how to get the traffic flow on to 23 without going through with without trying to go off of Pollock Road.

560
00:53:38,500 --> 00:53:53,420
We have extended Glen Parkway, which is a really nice connection off of Berlin station at this time, and with respect directly to Pollock in 23, I'll leave that question to Jonathan Olin and see if he has any feedback he could share with the commission.

561
00:53:54,280 --> 00:54:14,400
I will note that as the rest of Teraalta develops, Stockdale Farms Drive will meet in the center through the Rogers property and connect this section of Teraalta all the way down to Bromila Road on the south side of the Stockdale Farms portion of the subdivision, which can at least attempt to alleviate some of that as people can move elsewhere on some of the county roads.

562
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:21,260
I understand, too, that the county is working on an improvement for Berlin station in Brawmiller Road at that

563
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:29,680
duly named intersection that will aid. I think all those traveling through this vicinity. I do

564
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:36,220
not have a time frame on the county on that, but they have I would say in the past six months done a

565
00:54:36,220 --> 00:54:41,160
lot of tree clearing in preparation for that in the future, but I don't know that it's slated for

566
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:41,960
construction yet.

567
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,260
Thank you.

568
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,060
Which is why I always brought it up and prior to even, you know,

569
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Councilman Kaufman coming on that with City Council,

570
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,620
I brought up that that was one my reasoning for this one should have been part of,

571
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,900
could have been part of the Delaware South New Community Authority since, you know,

572
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:29,980
The Glen Parkway is a major access road out to 23, and that large part of the DSNCA payment is for the Glen Parkway itself. Actually, all of it is for the Glen Parkway and the Ohio Health Boulevard. That is not occurring here, but that is clearly what is going to help occur type of thing with all these roads. And that's just my comment that in future, maybe Councilman Hoffman can kind of keep these things in the back of the room.

573
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:41,480
I remind that just because of that very specific point in time the subdivisions don't connect at some point they are and that road network does need to be paid off one way or the other.

574
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:56,480
I think that's valuable insight and I think that currently with other developments happening more particularly in the northwest, the city as a whole directors are very much more astute on that.

575
00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:18,940
I know with regard to Pollock Road in particular I've had contact with ODOT and their desire to reform route 23 can be to my opinion it's a dangerous area that left turn on there so we'll see what happens with that but I have talked to ODOT about that.

576
00:56:26,310 --> 00:56:27,850
Any other questions for staff?

577
00:56:27,850 --> 00:56:32,030
If you guys could just state your name and address for the record.

578
00:56:32,730 --> 00:56:38,750
Jim Bolin with Roman L. Hughes, 148 Westrock Road, Westerville 4308, 2.

579
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,840
Cowshries with the MHT, 5500 New Albany Road, Columbus Ohio, 43054.

580
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:49,200
Anything you wanted to add to the staff's presentation?

581
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:55,300
I did have to add one thing, and I missed it on the comments.

582
00:56:55,300 --> 00:57:05,020
there's actually 43 lots, which is consistent when we did our original zoning in that what we call phase six, and it says 42.

583
00:57:06,820 --> 00:57:08,940
Other than that, it was absolutely perfect.

584
00:57:10,340 --> 00:57:13,160
43 is consistent with what is shown on the drawings.

585
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:21,060
I had a note to change this in my report before I sent it out, and it was a flurry as these reports were going out.

586
00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:28,640
We are all learning, attempting to learn to be a lane with things like this, so apologies for that.

587
00:57:29,020 --> 00:57:33,720
Thank you, within the tolerance, plus or minus one, I appreciate that catch their gym.

588
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:38,560
I would recommend the planning commission that this is something that you could amend.

589
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:47,820
I think that would be probably for the record, the best attempt forward is to, I believe this would be specifically for

590
00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:59,960
That would affect 96 for the final development plans.

591
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:12,120
I believe that should for case 2023-272A be amended from 96 single family lots to 97 single family lots.

592
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:20,520
And for case 2023-2729 amend 42 single family lots to 43 single family lots.

593
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,480
would be my recommendation.

594
00:58:25,580 --> 00:58:26,700
Do we need to vote on that?

595
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,560
Yeah, I recommend you.

596
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,500
I make a motion to amend and vote on the amendment.

597
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,400
And then in the event that passes,

598
00:58:36,860 --> 00:58:40,780
if in the event you make a recommendation on those cases,

599
00:58:40,780 --> 00:58:42,800
you recommend them as amended.

600
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:44,480
Okay.

601
00:58:47,470 --> 00:58:53,810
I'll make a motion to amend the staff report 20232728.

602
00:58:53,810 --> 00:59:02,330
8, final development plan to 97 single-family lots, and amend 20232729 Final Subdivision

603
00:59:02,330 --> 00:59:06,710
plan for staff recommendations to 43 single-family lots.

604
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:08,990
Motion by Commissioner Pral.

605
00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:10,330
Second.

606
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:12,150
Second by Councilman Hoffman.

607
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,540
Mr. Steltzer.

608
00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:16,880
Yes.

609
00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:18,040
Mr. Bacari.

610
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:18,540
Yes.

611
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:19,440
Mr. Stroud.

612
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:19,960
Yes.

613
00:59:20,220 --> 00:59:20,700
Mr. Nana.

614
00:59:20,820 --> 00:59:20,960
Yes.

615
00:59:21,260 --> 00:59:21,900
Mr. Pral.

616
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:22,160
Yes.

617
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,360
Ms. Chairman Hoffman?

618
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:24,400
Yes.

619
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,220
Chairman Simpson.

620
00:59:25,660 --> 00:59:26,100
Yes.

621
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,700
I like how you just read them together and didn't even ask.

622
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:30,880
You're just like, I'm taking control.

623
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,120
I'm not taking control.

624
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,360
I was going to say, you know, per what, you know, Mr. Stone.

625
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,560
So, Chairman Simpson, when you make the next motion or whoever dies,

626
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:46,300
if you can just do for case one and two as amended,

627
00:59:50,610 --> 00:59:51,130
please.

628
00:59:52,070 --> 00:59:57,350
One question that I have is weirdly enough.

629
00:59:57,350 --> 00:59:59,970
I've heard some complaints from-

630
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,100
Folks, on prasena way, that about some of the ranch-style homes near the entrance, are these

631
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:19,500
in these areas, are these going to be more single-family homes like on prasena way, and

632
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:24,040
that's sort of construction or what? Do you know what I'm saying here?

633
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:29,660
Well, I don't know where those exec streets are, but I can tell you that these are designed to be two-story

634
01:00:29,660 --> 01:00:34,000
Single-family homes where most of our moved on empty master stuff was done on the

635
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,220
West side of the community itself

636
01:00:36,220 --> 01:00:37,780
That that answers

637
01:00:38,780 --> 01:00:42,720
Of which rhinomes is sold all but to which is amazing

638
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Any

639
01:00:48,110 --> 01:00:49,570
additional

640
01:00:50,130 --> 01:00:52,490
Questions for the applicant all

641
01:00:55,690 --> 01:00:56,350
right. Thank you gentlemen

642
01:00:56,350 --> 01:01:01,670
Well, there are no members of the public here. So I'm gonna assume there's no comment on this particular case

643
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:05,990
So, I'll bring it back to the commission for either further deliberation or action.

644
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,580
Just a reminder to note them as amended for the first and second case.

645
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:22,100
I'll move for approval of case number 2023-2728 as amended with all conditions in the staff report.

646
01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:24,100
Motion by Councilman Hoffman.

647
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:25,400
Second.

648
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:27,340
Second by Commissioner Nana.

649
01:01:31,580 --> 01:01:32,340
Mr. Steltzer?

650
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:33,180
Yes.

651
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,000
Mr. McCory?

652
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:34,520
Yes.

653
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:35,560
Mr. Stroud?

654
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:40,520
Yes. Mr. Nana. Yes. Mr. Pearl. Yes. Vice Chairman Hoffman. Yes.

655
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:49,440
Chairman Simpson. Yes. I move for case number 2023-2729 as amended with all conditions in the staff report.

656
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:54,120
Motion by Councilman Hoffman. Second. Second by Commissioner Nana.

657
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:02,480
Mr. Steltzer. Yes. Mr. McCarrie. Yes. Mr. Stroud. Yes. Mr. Nana. Yes.

658
01:02:07,420 --> 01:02:07,420
Mr.

659
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:18,020
I'll move for the approval of case number 2023-2731 with all conditions in the staff report motion by councilman Hoffman second the second by commissioner Nana

660
01:02:20,540 --> 01:02:21,680
Mr. Steltzer

661
01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:31,380
Yes, Mr. McCarrie. Yes, Mr. Stroud. Yes, Mr. Nana. Yes, Mr. Pearl. Yes, Vice Chairman Hoffman. Yes, Chairman Simpson. Yes

662
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,100
Good luck, gentlemen, bill away

663
01:02:35,780 --> 01:02:39,140
Thank you. Thank you. I hope all your meetings go this smoothly

664
01:02:39,140 --> 01:02:42,240
It doesn't always work this way, but sometimes.

665
01:02:44,740 --> 01:02:46,960
Yeah, we better find some wood to knock on for sure.

666
01:02:47,860 --> 01:02:48,380
Thank

667
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:51,920
you.

668
01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:53,060
Yes.

669
01:03:03,290 --> 01:03:06,270
All right, moving on to the next item, onto nice agenda.

670
01:03:06,770 --> 01:03:07,950
The planning director's report.

671
01:03:09,310 --> 01:03:10,610
Appreciate the time.

672
01:03:11,350 --> 01:03:13,330
I'll keep it relatively short.

673
01:03:13,550 --> 01:03:18,350
We've received a number of applications for the September Planning Commission agenda.

674
01:03:18,350 --> 01:03:30,310
So I'd ask for, if there's any feedback from the commission, would there be a preference to have one longer meeting at the early September meeting?

675
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:36,730
Or would there be a preference in the event that's tasked for seeing a longer meeting to separate into two separate meetings?

676
01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:47,790
I figured I'd at least ask, but the second, but I noted that the second planning commission meeting in September would be also fair week,

677
01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:53,910
which could be an issue, but I figure I at least ask if there's a preference out of commission.

678
01:03:54,570 --> 01:04:01,150
I support the longer eating, I'll stay until midnight, ever.

679
01:04:01,830 --> 01:04:03,930
I concur longer meetings, but are.

680
01:04:04,850 --> 01:04:06,070
Yeah, I'll third that.

681
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:10,110
Cool, I appreciate the feedback. I believe staff, we can get

682
01:04:10,750 --> 01:04:14,690
everything wrapped up for the first meeting, but I just wanted at least

683
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:20,270
Just gauge feedback and see what the preference was there, but I think that's how we'll proceed here.

684
01:04:21,050 --> 01:04:24,950
With that said, we've got a number of cases, a couple of concept plans.

685
01:04:25,030 --> 01:04:32,210
I think we always have staff like to appreciate for more complex cases to advance a concept plan

686
01:04:32,850 --> 01:04:34,550
prior to making a formal submission.

687
01:04:35,010 --> 01:04:37,270
We'll have two concept plans at the meeting.

688
01:04:38,110 --> 01:04:43,410
We'll see concept plan we saw earlier this year at Donovan Farms.

689
01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:48,630
we've received a submission for their zoning and preliminary plan, so kind of cool to see,

690
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:53,230
you know, a couple of concept plans going and then the product of a concept plan from earlier

691
01:04:53,230 --> 01:04:59,530
and you're moving forth. Another couple of rezoning items and extension of another development plans,

692
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,860
There will be a variety of subjects that, apologies for what might be a larger packet, but we'll do what we can to try to get this out in a timely manner on Friday, that way you guys have enough time to go over things. And in the event, there's any questions, if you feel free to reach out to staff prior to the meeting, if there's something that might seem confusing or anything like that. We welcome any time. We have larger oversized drawings too, that we always ask for submission.

693
01:05:29,860 --> 01:05:35,420
So in the event, something's harder to read, eight and a half by 11 or 11 by 17.

694
01:05:35,420 --> 01:05:39,740
We do typically have some larger oversight as drawings too on the office.

695
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:45,280
With that said, while we've remaining pretty busy, as far as permit volume goes,

696
01:05:45,580 --> 01:05:50,580
especially in time of vacations with staff, I think we're hanging in here,

697
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,220
definitely going on across the city.

698
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:59,480
Yeah, HPC's had a couple interesting cases too that have been advancing through the process.

699
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:05,780
us. And with that said, that will conclude the director's report.

700
01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:08,880
I think a bite on land, very sad.

701
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,800
And goodbye to the land, we'll be very sad.

702
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:19,900
We've been attempting to learn Granicus and this just maze of screens over here.

703
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:26,420
So for the September meeting and moving forth, the planning staff will be completing agendas

704
01:06:26,420 --> 01:06:29,940
and I'll lead you to meetings of Polynesian advance for

705
01:06:31,020 --> 01:06:32,500
what might be some issues there.

706
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:33,040
I don't have a replacement.

707
01:06:33,380 --> 01:06:34,720
You do not train in your back up here.

708
01:06:35,180 --> 01:06:35,420
Elaine.

709
01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:40,720
I have made extensive notes of every duty I do.

710
01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:41,060
You got it.

711
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,220
So I, with pictures and arrows.

712
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:44,080
So.

713
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,320
It is very detailed.

714
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,200
I might add it.

715
01:06:46,220 --> 01:06:47,760
It is a very, very detailed guide.

716
01:06:47,980 --> 01:06:49,380
I, I Tom Homan proved it.

717
01:06:50,020 --> 01:06:51,740
I was, I was going to say it.

718
01:06:55,090 --> 01:06:56,670
Did you do videos of your,

719
01:06:56,670 --> 01:06:59,250
There's a video like iPhone videos doing everything.

720
01:07:00,130 --> 01:07:02,370
There are some screenshots of me.

721
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:12,340
But with that said, there's something of a recurring joke amongst planning staff, and

722
01:07:12,340 --> 01:07:16,420
this is what we've referred to as a technology ghost that seems to haunt our department.

723
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:23,020
I don't know what it is, but when Lance left, that ghost seemed to migrate to Dave's computer, and

724
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:27,120
when Dave left, that ghost seems to somehow migrate to my computer, because I've been having

725
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,480
a flurry of technology issues the last few months that I can't explain so well you don't need to

726
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:37,900
explain it your IT department does exactly so I'll try to not touch stuff over here because I'm

727
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:44,740
hoping that doesn't follow to Ann or David you don't want the the technology does it's not fun

728
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:51,880
sounds like as long as you don't leave we're safe so can I give it to Elaine and just Pablo want the

729
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,940
technology guest.

730
01:07:55,620 --> 01:08:00,060
All right. We're going to miss you later. Seriously, though. We appreciate all your time. Yeah, we got to get in all of our

731
01:08:00,060 --> 01:08:03,960
jobs tonight. Obviously, I'm trying to cram lake years worth in.

732
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:11,520
Well, I mean, it's a perfect meeting with the, you know, everything working fantastic. Yeah, I know. What a way to go out.

733
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:17,120
I had to avoid the temptation of putting a lot numbers on every case. It was really hard to resist that.

734
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,040
Okay, we'll always remember your last meeting.

735
01:08:20,140 --> 01:08:22,720
All right, Commission member, comments and discussion.

736
01:08:22,820 --> 01:08:24,660
I'll start down here with Commissioner Nana.

737
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:30,300
Sure, so I'm not sure the packet usually arrives on my door.

738
01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:32,660
I did not get one and I just kind of assumed

739
01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:35,000
there was going to be one here since one didn't arrive.

740
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,500
It's arrived every other time.

741
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,920
So I'm not sure if somebody swiped it or if it didn't get dropped off.

742
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,420
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what happened.

743
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,800
And I noticed that you sent the PDF out in an email,

744
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,740
So I thought maybe we were just supposed to review it that way, but

745
01:08:50,540 --> 01:08:56,100
No, sorry about that and I'd say in the future if you don't see something come to you on a Friday or Saturday

746
01:08:56,100 --> 01:09:03,260
Please give me a call Monday, and I'd it's possibly maybe delivered to the wrong place to is I do apologize for any

747
01:09:03,260 --> 01:09:07,820
Miss half there, but yeah, if you ever come Monday, don't don't have a packet yet

748
01:09:07,820 --> 01:09:10,420
Please give me a call and that'll be my top priority

749
01:09:12,620 --> 01:09:15,160
I've been doing this forever and I've never had that happen

750
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,560
Can you imagine the person's disappointment when they swiped it off your porch?

751
01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:24,220
I don't know, I'm saying that would not the package you want to steal, I suppose.

752
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:41,380
Just as usual, thanks for everyone that is here today, you know, and the staff and the commissioners.

753
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:47,620
We have a full attendance today, and it's great, thank you so much.

754
01:09:47,620 --> 01:09:54,620
Um, yeah, the last time I, Elaine, the last time I, we talked, I think I believe my

755
01:09:54,620 --> 01:09:59,960
term, uh, in the coming one, in this coming

756
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:10,560
You have been reappointed from a conversation that when you're ready to step down, let me or

757
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:17,380
will let the mayor know that's not approved either, he let me know too. You go you're being

758
01:10:17,380 --> 01:10:26,860
power. No, I understand you you might be heading towards some retirement. Yeah, I should be

759
01:10:26,860 --> 01:10:33,700
retiring in September, but that doesn't stop me from doing the good thing to the city of

760
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:43,120
Delaware. So I'm going to stay on board until we get a replacement. I have a good hobby recommendation

761
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:54,060
You should go into public service and retirement, you could go to council meeting, so that's all I have.

762
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,360
George?

763
01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:00,380
I just want to again, thank you, Elaine.

764
01:11:00,740 --> 01:11:01,440
Oh, thank you.

765
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:08,120
You know, just providing all the information and being at the meetings and best of luck to you as you move forward in your new career.

766
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:15,760
I want to thank everybody else too for all the hard work you do by getting the packets

767
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,480
together and thinking of that nature and also the commission itself.

768
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,380
I do want to make one note.

769
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:29,240
I know that when I first started here, I was complaining about that Wawa, but Wawa is coming

770
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,480
to Ohio now.

771
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:34,140
I just found out that they have signed out.

772
01:11:34,340 --> 01:11:37,700
They started essentially netting for no mistake and they are coming up this way.

773
01:11:37,700 --> 01:11:40,140
So, on that planning committee, if you can,

774
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,640
that commission over there, you know, for Delaware planning,

775
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:45,300
that might be one of the incentives, you say,

776
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,120
hey, wow, wow, you know, this guy has been petitioning

777
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,400
this for a while, you get it here.

778
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,240
If I pick it, it's some turf for him.

779
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,860
You know, I think you're just got both jangles

780
01:11:54,860 --> 01:11:55,900
that haven't went over there yet.

781
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,640
They dig into both jangles over there.

782
01:11:58,840 --> 01:11:59,080
So, what?

783
01:11:59,580 --> 01:12:01,200
Yes, they opened up.

784
01:12:01,300 --> 01:12:03,300
I think it should open up recently and for not mistaken.

785
01:12:04,220 --> 01:12:06,100
Yeah, they have made it up.

786
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:09,060
So we need to start to, you know, I like to like the development

787
01:12:09,060 --> 01:12:10,800
but we can start bringing in some of them chains.

788
01:12:12,860 --> 01:12:14,440
Yeah, thank you again, Lane.

789
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:14,880
Be safe.

790
01:12:14,980 --> 01:12:15,280
Thank you.

791
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:26,150
Elaine, we love you, but you know them pal people, they don't know

792
01:12:26,150 --> 01:12:29,570
how to use the screens at the sheets down there.

793
01:12:31,650 --> 01:12:33,590
It's like, I don't know.

794
01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:37,190
So I'm just warning you, because you've known sheets,

795
01:12:37,190 --> 01:12:40,450
And it's a five-star restaurant.

796
01:12:40,510 --> 01:12:45,590
So yeah, so be ready to wait in line because they don't know what they're doing.

797
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:58,090
Beyond that, Commissioner Holman had mentioned that the recruitment for the Commissioner

798
01:12:58,090 --> 01:13:06,470
Holman, City Manager Holman had mentioned that they're winnowing down the candidates for

799
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:08,670
for the Planning Director position.

800
01:13:09,710 --> 01:13:22,850
I mentioned to him, I think that it would be good if the Planning Commission was briefed on it in the coming days with the winnowing down just to get our feedback.

801
01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:28,770
So maybe be on the lookout for that other than that, I'm all good.

802
01:13:28,770 --> 01:13:44,250
I love you Elaine. Tomorrow 430 at the sand bar. If you want to go I'm not buying but

803
01:13:45,150 --> 01:13:49,110
she'll be drinking. This is somebody's buying. Let me turn the mic off.

804
01:13:51,870 --> 01:13:59,110
Dean I believe we have two more meetings coming up in August. The Delaware South New Community

805
01:13:59,110 --> 01:14:08,530
the authority on August 15th, and then the Southwest-focused area meeting on August 23rd.

806
01:14:08,650 --> 01:14:12,750
That's correct. I appreciate you mentioning that I just left my mind at everything going on.

807
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:17,990
We're still planning on having the focus area plan. We've been in regular communication with

808
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:24,870
the consultant planning next, and I believe I'm not sure we ever had a concrete timetables

809
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:33,210
to what we're hoping to have a final presentation of City Council, but I believe we're on track for that occur before the end of the years, the goal.

810
01:14:33,870 --> 01:14:40,510
So we're hopeful we'll have effectively a draft of what some of this might look like at the next task force meeting.

811
01:14:40,850 --> 01:14:46,890
So it should be a great opportunity to kind of see what we've been working on and a good chance for comments.

812
01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:50,610
and so I think I'm prepared to see some cool stuff

813
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,470
and it'll be a good chance to any feedback

814
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:54,810
you might have to share with that

815
01:14:54,810 --> 01:14:57,310
because I think they're getting close to having

816
01:14:57,310 --> 01:14:59,790
some of the documentation of what they'll be present.

817
01:15:00,340 --> 01:15:29,520
In stages where we can start kind of seeing what it'll look like now. We did have a community feedback sometime. Month ago or something like that at the wine. There was a couple of people who did show up and get feedback so they'll be part of whatever they come up with on their notes type of thing. Other than that, you know, Lane, we will definitely miss you. Thank you. When did you start? When was how long ago was that before? Before you even got that full title?

818
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:36,300
I think it's 14, it's been like nine or 10 years, I have to go back and look.

819
01:15:37,660 --> 01:15:39,800
It's been fun, it's been fun.

820
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:42,220
Wonderful, you have an aged a bit.

821
01:15:42,980 --> 01:15:43,780
You're my favorite.

822
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:48,960
Paul?

823
01:15:50,860 --> 01:15:56,040
Echoing everyone else, thank you for all of your years of service to this commission and

824
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,880
to the city as a whole.

825
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:14,540
I saw the announcement on Facebook today about Tom Homan, I guess, a year in advance but stepping down and I thought that was my only surprise with city staffing today and wasn't ready for that to hear but wish you the best of luck and we'll miss you here.

826
01:16:16,260 --> 01:16:17,080
That's all I've got.

827
01:16:19,610 --> 01:16:22,550
Don't go over there to pound, start stealing our people.

828
01:16:28,910 --> 01:16:33,490
I don't think I can really say anything that hasn't already been said, we've appreciated

829
01:16:33,490 --> 01:16:40,750
working with you and we're sad to see you go and we'll miss you and now we won't have

830
01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:45,410
any Elaine to run the stuff and these guys are going to have to run it and the way things

831
01:16:45,410 --> 01:16:51,730
are gone it's going to be that's going to get to be a while so tender but we wish you the

832
01:16:51,730 --> 01:16:56,750
best of luck on your new endeavor. And when you miss us, we'll find a spot for you when you want to come back.

833
01:16:56,930 --> 01:17:03,990
Thank you. Well, if I may, I just want to say it has been a privilege to be a part of this,

834
01:17:04,210 --> 01:17:09,490
a little part of this commission and to sit us, you know, beside all of you for many years.

835
01:17:10,050 --> 01:17:15,710
And I think Stacy, you're like my OG. You've probably been here longer than I have.

836
01:17:15,710 --> 01:17:21,070
I think so, at this point, I don't know, my name is a little fuzzy.

837
01:17:21,650 --> 01:17:26,810
For volunteers, you do extraordinary work and you make a difference in this community

838
01:17:26,810 --> 01:17:36,030
and you have always treated our citizens with the utmost respect and I appreciate that because

839
01:17:36,030 --> 01:17:42,390
many of us don't understand this process and it's confusing and it's intimidating to come

840
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:48,650
up in front of a board and speak, and really not understand what you're saying, or, you know,

841
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:56,950
I don't mean that disrespectfully to anybody, but you guys have always treated them kind and fairness,

842
01:17:57,290 --> 01:18:01,690
and listen to their concerns, and I hope I find that again.

843
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:04,540
Thank you.

844
01:18:06,830 --> 01:18:13,710
All right guys, let's not belabor this. Let's be done. It is 7.48 pm. We've got our next meeting on

845
01:18:13,710 --> 01:18:20,730
September 6, 2023. If you, if any conflicts arise, I would assume you can reach out to Jordan

846
01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:25,530
and let him know in, in Elaine's departure. And look forward to seeing everybody in September.

847
01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:27,010
So meeting adjourned.