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[0:06] It's 6.30 p.m., August 2nd, 2023. I'd like to call tonight's session of the City of Delaware Planning Commission to order. Could the clerk please read the roll. Mr. Steltzer. Here. Mr. Bacari. Mr. Stroud. Here. Mr. Nana. Mr. Pearl. Here. Vice Chairman Hoffman. Here. Chairman Simpson. Here. Do we have a motion to excuse, Commissioner Nana? Motion to excuse, Commissioner Nana. Got a motion by Councilman Hoffman.
[0:36] Second, second by Commissioner Prall.
[0:41] Mr. Steltzer?
[0:42] Yes.
[0:42] Mr. Bacari?
[0:43] Yes.
[0:44] Mr. Stroud?
[0:45] Yes.
[0:45] Mr. Prall?
[0:46] Yes.
[0:47] Vice Chairman Hoffman?
[0:48] Yes.
[0:49] Chairman Simpson?
[0:50] Yes.
[0:52] Moving on to the next item on the agenda, the approval of the motion summary of the planning commission
[0:56] meeting held on June 7th, 2023.
[0:59] As recorded and transcribed, what's the wish of the commission?
[1:03] move for approval of the Emotion Summary.
[1:06] I am motion by Councilman Hoffman.
[1:09] Second.
[1:09] And a second by Commissioner Prall.
[1:13] Mr. Steltzer.
[1:14] Yes.
[1:14] Mr. Bacari.
[1:15] Yes.
[1:16] Mr. Stroud.
[1:17] Yes.
[1:17] Mr. Prall.
[1:18] Yes.
[1:18] Vice Chairman Hoffman.
[1:20] Yes.
[1:20] Chairman Simpson.
[1:21] Yes.
[1:23] All right.
[1:23] Moving on to the next item.
[1:25] What's tonight's agenda?
[1:26] Regular business.
[1:27] Could the clerk please read item A into the role?
[1:30] Item A, 2023-2063, a request by racetrack ink for approval of a final development plan for a racetrack gas station on approximately 4.6 acres on properties on B3 Community Business District, located north of US 36, date Route 37 and just west of the future Davidson Lane.
[1:51] And he'll be presenting for us tonight.
[1:53] I will be.
[1:54] Okay.
[2:07] Just a second to get the slides up here.
[2:12] And Chairman Simpson for the record.
[2:14] Mr. Nana's walked in at 632.
[2:23] Okay.
[2:24] So this is request 2023-2063.
[2:28] Request by racetrack.
[2:30] Incorporated for approval of a final development plan for a racetrack gas station on approximately 4.6 acres.
[2:35] on property zone B3, community business district located north of US 3637 and just west of the future Davidson lane.
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[2:56] Hopefully I didn't click all the way to the end.
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[3:02] Hopefully this stays up as it should.
[3:10] Sorry about this.
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[3:21] brief preview of the ones that will come later.
[3:35] I would just start and we'll catch up.
[3:39] Okay.
[3:40] It does follow in the recording.
[3:43] There's just a delay in showing now on the TV and I need to have been able to figure out that.
[3:48] Okay.
[3:49] Now we have the right one up.
[3:53] Let's see.
[3:54] So where was I now?
[3:55] Sorry.
[3:56] Okay. Sorry.
[3:57] The subject site is located north of US 3637, Sumberry Road, and it's just west of the future
[4:03] Davidson Lane extension.
[4:05] The property encompass approximately 4.6 acres in a zone B3 community business.
[4:10] As part of this development plan process, the applicant has split this lot, which has been
[4:14] approved through our office, is awaiting recording here, and from an existing 25 acre tract to create
[4:22] this separate parcel.
[4:23] The property to the north-south and east of the existing partial or zone B3 while the property to the west is within the township is owned FR-1, which is farm-resistant district.
[4:34] They're proposing to construct a gas station with an approximately 6,000 eight square foot convenience store that'll include eight fueling islands for passenger vehicles, five fueling islands for larger vehicles and a total of 34 parking spaces.
[4:49] The site would have three access points.
[4:52] The northern two would be for large vehicles, semi-trucks, the north, for the northern most-
[5:00] Would be the entrance, which would then loop around the, through the fueling island, and then the middle access point would be exit for large vehicles. The southern access point would be a, both an entrance and exit for smaller vehicles and provide access to the convenience store. On the west of the building is proposed to be a dumpster and also underground fuel storage. And also for the north west
[5:29] The extra important of the property will be underground storm water detention.
[5:35] Subject site, excuse me,
[5:43] the subject site is defined in the Delaware Together Concert Plan as a community scale activity center as much as the corridor is surrounding somebody road.
[5:54] As part of the Far East Side focus area, it is important for development to create infrastructure connections.
[5:58] The proposed extension of Davidson Lane would satisfy this goal for the conference of plan by taking a step towards connecting future built more drive to US 36-37.
[6:09] As proposed this application aligns with the Delaware together plan and commitment, excuse me, in concert with the market needs for fueling stations along the very busy state and national roadway.
[6:21] The applicant would need to obtain engineering approvals, including any stormwater and utility issues that need to be worked out through the engineering and utilities departments.
[6:31] I'll read comments regarding the layout and details of the project are preliminary and subject to modification or change based on the final technical review by the engineering department once the final complete plan set is reviewed.
[6:43] The applicant would be required to construct an extension of Davidson Lane from summary road to the northern boundary of the subject 4.6 acre parcel which is indicated as approved through the thoroughfare plan.
[6:58] Davidson Lane is noticed item number 12, commercial connector road in the plan as part of the ODOT access management plan along the quarter all access to the site would be from the new Davidson Lane.
[7:10] and there would be no access directly from the US 36 to air out 37.
[7:31] And for pedestrian connectivity, the extension of Davidson Lane will be a public street.
[7:36] And that will be required to construct sidewalk on the west side of the road,
[7:40] fronting their development when they construct the road.
[7:43] As this and other sites in the vicinity continue to be developed,
[7:46] Bill Mordrive gets extended to Davidson Lane as should on the third for plain.
[7:49] There would be a continuation of sidewalk and bike path to provide extended pedestrian connectivity throughout the corridor.
[7:56] Additionally, the applicant will be required to pay a fee and lieu of construction for a sidewalk along the Sombre Road at a rate as to be determined by the city engineer of the time of final engineering approval.
[8:08] The applicant has worked extensively with the city and is proposing a foresighted brick convenience store building with dep尊 of fiber cement access
[8:18] in a dark-based color.
[8:21] They're going to wrap the building in a dollar blue-vain limestone veneer wanescoating
[8:25] with blue liver hangs and red door surrounds and roof outline details.
[8:29] The dumpster enclosure would be constructed the same brick and limestone veneer
[8:34] and the fuel canopies would also have the red accents color
[8:37] with brick and limestone veneer columns to match the building.
[8:45] There's currently, or this is currently open agricultural land,
[8:47] So there are no qualified trees on site, require removal or replacement.
[8:52] And then with landscaping, a buffer along the west and north boundaries of the site would
[8:59] align with the buffer requirements zoning code. And they're proposing evergreen trees planted
[9:07] every 20 feet on center, staggered in a staggered alignment to satisfy this requirement.
[9:13] Additionally, they're going to provide parking lot buffering along Summary Road in Davidson Lane where the parking lot will be visible from the public right of way, which this would be shrubbery that would be at least three feet of tall at the time of planting and they're also going to provide street trees along the Summary Road in Davidson Lane and parking lot trees within the landscape islands of the parking lot.
[9:40] And the applicant is going to be required to extend any necessary utilities to the site to the first extent of the site in order to allow service to adjacent properties as termed by the city.
[9:51] And the applicant has finalized the sign plan for the site and is proposed building fuel canopy and ground science.
[9:59] You're going to have once.
[10:00] We have a sign on the southern fueling canopy facing summary road and one sign on the northern fueling canopy facing Davidson Lane. Now, the building will have three similar racetrack signs on the north, south, and east elevations. In addition, that can also proposing some mural type artwork on the south elevation to enhance brown branding. A ground sign is proposed on the southeast corner of the site from summary road and Davidson Lane. It would be approximately 13 feet in length and no more than 12 inches wider.
[10:28] to signary and will not exceed nine feet in height.
[10:32] I'll have a difficult gas pricer for the zoning code.
[10:36] The ground sign would require dollar blue vane limestone
[10:39] based to achieve compliance with the gateways and quarters plane.
[10:42] Any directional signage should not be illuminated, which will be there is some already also on the fueling canopies for the north fueling canopy to make sure that the larger vehicles know that that is a exit only from the.
[10:57] that they've faced that they've come across when they enter.
[11:03] And staff recommends approval of this request by racetrack,
[11:07] for approval for a final development plan for racetrack gas station on approximately 4.6 acres.
[11:13] Zone B3 Community Business District, located north of US 3637.
[11:18] And just west of future days and lane with the following conditions,
[11:21] which are listed on the staff report there with a total of 18 conditions.
[11:27] Any questions?
[11:27] Is there any questions that commission has?
[11:33] Appreciate the presentation there, David.
[11:35] Appreciate the applicant's time on this project.
[11:38] And the patience with this project,
[11:41] the applicant was initially going to be on the July planning commission agenda.
[11:44] But staff wanted to ensure that plus with a tight turnaround between just a couple of weeks with the mid-July meeting and the current meeting,
[11:52] to make all eyes, diodes, cross, so we appreciate them working with staff to ensure we had a complete package for tonight's presentation, and especially with the robust landscaping plan and the strong elevations we see here before staff definitely be strong support of this project here and as David indicated if there's any questions would be happy there and some at this time. Thank you.
[12:13] I did want to add one more thing, sorry about that.
[12:17] They also required to have a lighting plane that it's used compliance with the zoning
[12:21] code that has been submitted and approved by our chief voting official.
[12:25] I just wanted to make that note.
[12:37] Do we have any questions for staff before we bring the applicant up?
[12:43] I'll invite the applicant to come forward, just state your name and your address once you
[12:48] reach the desk.
[12:59] Brennan section with Race Track 200, Gallery of Parkways, Southeast, Atlanta, Georgia, 30339.
[13:05] And Josh Long, CSO, Engineering and Java, 466, Randall Road, Dollar Ohio.
[13:11] Is there anything you want to additionally want to add to staff's presentation?
[13:15] I did want to thank you all for the opportunity to be a part of the Delaware community and
[13:18] thanks to staff for all their help throughout this project.
[13:21] One thing I did want to point out that it's not reflected in the development plans that have been before you today is at the request of the landowner.
[13:28] Mr. Davidson, who were purchasing the property from, he would like additional utility extensions about halfway along the Davidson lane extension to help with development of his other property.
[13:38] And so we don't have to tear the road up when somebody does elect to come in on that side of the Davidson lane instruction.
[13:43] So I did want to flush it out with you and have that in the record tonight as well.
[13:50] Any commentary on that, Jordan, or is that something that could be handled offline by staff?
[13:54] I don't see any concern with that, we can work them out, work it out with them, as long as it's understood that it's
[14:01] developer driven and paid for with the project and no city costs is included.
[14:07] I would concur with the engineering on that comment, I think those type of details we can work out during engineering plan review.
[14:18] Any objection to any of the conditions in the report?
[14:22] No, we're in agreement with all of them.
[14:23] Okay,
[14:26] I have a question, Mr. Davidson, I don't know if he's referring, if you're referring to additional parcels beyond yours, but is there any plans for the portion of the parcel north of where the gas station is going to be?
[14:43] I'm not aware of any, at this time I believe there's some portion that is owned B3, and then the extension of built more road I believe would be to the north of that, but other than that, I'm not aware of any plans.
[14:59] It's just gonna be a head.
[15:00] 24-7 service? That's good.
[15:05] Well, there'd be like a little cafeteria inside there, or is it, you know, that's been a popular thing around here, is adding, you know, food stations? Sure. I would benchmark ourselves with sheets. We don't have a made-to-order program. That's as robust as them. We're focused on more of an efficient process where you can come in and get what you need and leave, but we do have a hot food order with items that are prepared fresh in the store.
[15:36] Any other questions for the office?
[15:38] I think the only thing I had is I'm actually I'm only familiar with race track and name I actually don't know that I've been in a race track
[15:45] I can't think of one that is near here. Where are you? I guess within proximity to Delaware? Where else would you be located? Are you in Columbus?
[15:54] We have a couple stores that are scoped in the central Ohio area that are in various stages of permitting.
[15:59] They all kind of came in a wave and this was the first one in our expansion plan.
[16:03] There are two under construction in Indianapolis.
[16:06] Currently, the first one should open in September, October of this year.
[16:11] And then there are several stores in Louisville and around that area in Kentucky that we have as well.
[16:16] Okay, so your home base is in Atlanta and you're working your way north.
[16:19] That's slowly but surely, right?
[16:21] Yes.
[16:21] Okay.
[16:22] That makes total sense.
[16:27] Anything else?
[16:30] All right.
[16:31] Thank you.
[16:31] Are there any members of the public here this evening who wish to comment on this particular case?
[16:38] All right, seeing none, I'll bring it back to the commission for either further deliberation or action this evening.
[16:45] I'll move for approval of case number 2023-2063, along with the conditions in the staff report.
[16:53] I have a motion by Councilman Hoffman.
[16:55] Second.
[16:56] And I have a second by Commissioner Nan Ibley.
[16:58] Mr.
[17:03] Steltzer?
[17:04] Yes.
[17:04] Mr. Bakari?
[17:05] Yes.
[17:07] Mr. Stroud?
[17:08] Yes.
[17:09] Mr. Nana?
[17:09] Yes.
[17:10] Mr. Paul?
[17:11] Yes.
[17:12] Vice Chairman Hoffman?
[17:14] Yes.
[17:14] Chairman Simpson?
[17:16] Yes.
[17:18] All right.
[17:19] Motion carries.
[17:20] Good luck, gentlemen.
[17:26] All right.
[17:26] Moving on to the next item on tonight's agenda.
[17:30] Could the clerk please read item B into the record?
[17:32] Case
[17:38] B, 2023-2378, a request by Addison Delaware, LLC for approval of a street vacation for Addison Farms on approximately 0.240 acres located on Hope Lane South of Kensington Drive.
[17:57] Thank you, Elaine. I'll be presenting this case here tonight. Just one moment.
[18:23] All right.
[18:24] All right, so the request we have here for tonight for this particular application is relatively simple in nature and what the request entails, although it does have a little bit of a complex history in relation to the overall Addison Farms development right away vacations are a planning item that we have seen before in the past, typically they're in conjunction with the larger scale development to help facilitate access.
[18:52] In this particular event, the vacation of Hope Lane South of Kensington was a requirement
[19:02] from the city engineer, as the U.H. Autison Farms development will not be extending this
[19:10] roadway in the city with the development south of this site, having a pretty robust
[19:16] the best mound and landscape being that would effectively with you extending Hope Lane South would impede this buffer for the development towards the south and thus with this stub street not being extended ever in the future, it was desired by the city engineer to see this roadway not only be vacated, but the public infrastructure removed that way this would not be something that would need to be maintained by the city.
[19:46] but would also just make practical sense.
[19:49] So throughout the development of the Addison Farms case, we've worked with the overall master developer, and his team will be the one leading this part.
[20:00] A particular item, so this will be a little bit separate from the other case we'll have here tonight for being led by Redwood for the final development plan of their sub-area. This would subject vacation, more in a sense part of the overall final development plan and infrastructure for Addison Farms. And thus is wide with the lip proposed staff conditions. We've kind of linked the completion of the road vacation and the removal of public infrastructure
[20:29] with items such as the sidewalk and pavement, et cetera, to be part of the overall infrastructure and development plan.
[20:38] With that said, this is a relatively simple request.
[20:41] We've indicated with the developer that in the event that the neighboring property owners do not wish to have effectively their half of this vacation become part of their property, the master developer would have this space be maintained by the Addison Farms.
[21:00] homeowners association or master association, thus this land would not be maintained by the city in the future and there would be a sense of ownership with the land if you will.
[21:11] With that said, staff would certainly recommend approval of this case with the listed staff conditions and if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them at this time.
[21:20] Thank you.
[21:21] I
[21:24] have a question.
[21:26] So I recall going back to the old thoroughfare plans that Kensington and those roads were
[21:34] shown to extend that there was no intention for those roads to remain stub streets.
[21:40] And that was one of the points that we made to residents early on in the Addison process
[21:47] who wanted those to remain stub streets.
[21:52] Is there, was there anything like that with regard to Hope Lane as far as how they wanted to extend it because I don't recall and it would seem inconsistent of us if we would defur deviate from the thoroughfare plan for Hope Lane but hold to it for the other roads in this area.
[22:20] in this development. And I just wanted to ask about that point.
[22:26] So that was something that we did review and doubts, both internally and with the Alice
[22:33] and Properties team and with Hopeland specifically in the close proximity of what would be the
[22:41] extended heritage drive in the potential development of what we now see as Redwood sub area E.
[22:50] It didn't make sense to connect a public street for
[22:57] the purpose of providing access to a private development that would otherwise have access from heritage in Merrick.
[23:04] This was one of two stub streets that we, three actually, stub streets that we as public works determined didn't need to continue.
[23:15] The other was hay loft and that had a lot to do with a playground that was existing there that's being utilized by the community and Taylor Avenue which is also in a close network of adjacent streets that already had connectivity to the area, so it's being called a fact.
[23:34] So this thought process did go through and it was considered in your accurately stating that it was on the thoroughfare plan.
[23:40] It was great for future planning not knowing how it would be laid out or how the land might
[23:47] have been utilized by a previous developer about 20 years ago.
[23:53] I hope that answers your question.
[23:55] I appreciate that, Karen.
[23:57] While planning would typically like to see all the roads have interconnectedness across developments and subdivisions,
[24:04] I think with the specific development to the immediate south of this street being a private site
[24:11] that would have private roadways maintained by that specific development, sometimes you do have public roads that transition into private roads but it's pretty seldom and usually it's better to have it be through a main access point and also with the out of respect out of the community making a pretty strong indication of wanting to have a really robust mounting and buffering between the existing subdivision and future development.
[24:41] And I think at the end of the day, it makes sense to have the amount and vacation of this specific piece of road kind of trumped the overall connectiveness as carry indicated.
[24:52] I think we'll still have a pretty strong interconnectiveness of this area through the extensions of other roadways too.
[25:03] So is this area, is it currently platted as part of Addison, or is it going to have to be that way? The whole plane would be platted per the Oakhurst subdivision. So this would need legislative action to vacate this portion or right away. Okay. And will the sidewalk then have to be extended, right? Yeah, part of the, yeah, part of the requirements would be for the applicant to
[25:33] to remove public and infrastructure, so that would include things such as the north and south running sidewalks you see in the road pavement itself and those type of items, but also remedy the Kensington to that would just need to be per the city engineer, but I believe that would include things like putting in the curb along there and connecting the sidewalk along there and cleaning up the site.
[25:59] Has
[26:05] there been any contact with these property owners that date this is something that they'd prefer versus the connected connectivity for the third of our plan?
[26:17] I know that they would have preferred to not have Kensington, for example, to connect, so I'm just curious.
[26:27] Ultimately, I would defer to the applicant for the full extent of outreach.
[26:31] I don't believe we've communicated with the public to see if there was an intent to have this road extended or not.
[26:39] However, the applicant had indicated these reached out to the immediate adjacent property owners on to the east and west of the subject vacation.
[26:50] And my understanding that one of the property owners has already indicated a desire to have, because normally when you vacate right away,
[26:57] kind of give a piece to each immediately adjacent property owner and we've received communication that one of the property owners would, you know, like to see, you know, reception of their half, I don't believe there's been an update from the second property owner in the event that they don't want their half that piece would be maintained by the Addison Farms Master Association for just maintenance of the yard space effectively.
[27:34] If the applicants here this evening might should have come forward to the to the table.
[27:39] Just state your name and address for the record.
[27:43] Brian Burkart with Civil Environmental Consultants, 250 Old Wilson Bridge Road,
[27:47] Worthyton, Ohio, 43085.
[27:50] Thank you. Did you have anything you wanted to add, this time's presentation?
[27:53] Just that, just what Jordan said, that the developer has reached out to both homeowners.
[27:59] We're still waiting on the other one, so open had some type of confirmation this week or next week.
[28:06] Okay, no concerns with any other conditions.
[28:09] Okay, do we have any questions for the applicant?
[28:16] Easy crowd tonight.
[28:17] Thank you.
[28:18] Are there any members of the public here this evening who wish to comment on this case?
[28:22] All right, seeing none, I'll bring it back to the commission for further deliberation or action.
[28:31] I'll make a motion to approve 2023-2378 street vacation for Addison Farms.
[28:39] I have a motion by Commissioner Prall.
[28:40] I'll second the motion.
[28:42] And a second by Commissioner Straub.
[28:46] Mr. Steltzer.
[28:48] Yes.
[28:49] Mr. Bacari.
[28:50] Yes.
[28:51] Mr. Straub.
[28:52] Yes.
[28:53] Mr. Nana.
[28:54] Yes.
[28:55] Mr. Pearl.
[28:55] Yes.
[28:56] Vice Chairman Hoffman.
[28:57] Yes.
[28:58] Chairman Simpson.
[28:59] Yes.
[29:01] All right, thank you.
[29:06] All right, moving along the agenda.
[29:08] Could the clerk please read the next item C into the agenda or to the record?
[29:16] I'll
[29:26] give you more time, Impal.
[29:30] That was slow, low.
[29:38] KC, 2023-2379, every request by Redwood, USA, for approval of a final development plan for Redwood at Addison Farm Sub Area E on approximately 52.29 acres.
[29:57] Thank you, Elaine. I want to be presenting this case tonight.
[30:00] While the PowerPoint is being loading up here, this is, of course, the referenced section that we were just discussing with respect to the vacation of Hope Lane, which is directly to the north of this section.
[30:28] It's just not going as well as I would like.
[30:35] There we go. Hold on, I promise.
[30:44] All right. Well, we will now wait for the location slide to load. But just as a brief overview, again, this is part of the
[30:52] the overall Addison Farms development.
[30:55] This is Redwood, which is, they have an existing community in Delaware at Quail Pass behind
[31:01] Meyer, and this is Subarea E of the Addison development is located in the center of the
[31:06] overall Addison Farms subdivision.
[31:10] As far as zoning, this is part of the Addison Farms plan mixed use overlay.
[31:15] It is known to A1 and R3 PMU, so there's an agricultural and one family residential
[31:20] district underlay to the overlay district, they would have to adhere to the Addison
[31:27] Farms development text.
[31:33] In a moment there will be an aerial image of the site.
[31:39] And I'm
[31:39] going to go ahead and skip past that. The final development plan is the next step and the
[31:45] final step in the development plan process for Redwood and Addison Farms. The preliminary
[31:50] development plan was approved in February of this year, and there are very minor changes
[31:55] to the current final development plan.
[31:58] Those are based on conditions of approval and comments that were provided during the plan review process of that preliminary plan.
[32:06] Excuse me, so the applicant is proposing 280 apartment units.
[32:10] I will note that the original development text that I mentioned earlier for Addison Farms actually approved up to 315 units in this sub area, so that is a reduction of over 11% in this sub area.
[32:23] These units would be spread among 45 single story buildings.
[32:27] They would all be two better units with a two car garage.
[32:30] They would also all have two car driveways.
[32:35] Excuse me, primary access to this site would be from Future Merrick Boulevard to the south.
[32:39] There would also be secondary access on the west from Heritage Boulevard,
[32:43] which would be extended and then on the east from Bruce Road,
[32:46] which will also extend to the wood hall roundabout.
[32:48] These roads would need to be constructed prior to,
[32:51] or concurrently with this development as a condition of approval.
[32:55] Those roads are being constructed by the master developer as part of the approved overall infrastructure plan.
[33:04] The applicant is proposing doing this project in two phases.
[33:07] The first would be the east side of the development with 145 units in 24 buildings.
[33:13] The second would be the western side of the site with 135 units in 21 buildings.
[33:18] There will be an internal private road network.
[33:20] work. These will be 22 feet wide with 4-foot integrated sidewalk. Essentially, the sidewalk
[33:25] will be the same level as the road, but the concrete will be dyed at different color,
[33:30] are stained at different color from the drive aisles. This is consistent with the third
[33:35] phase of Redwood at Quail Pass behind Meyer. The applicant is working with our engineering
[33:42] department to reconfigure specifically the access points from the public rights of way into
[33:48] this site to have wider entranceways and potentially a separated pedestrian path in those locations
[33:56] to provide safer access for pedestrians bicycles and cars. So that's not fully determined
[34:02] at this time. It would not cause any major alterations to the site. It would just be some minor tweaking
[34:09] in engineering terms that I do not fully understand. As to the rest of this development, there would
[34:17] Like I mentioned before, each unit would have two car driveway, these would be at least 21 feet long.
[34:24] This would keep cars or trucks with extended beds from hanging into the street.
[34:28] Our standard parking space in the cities required to be 19 feet, so they're providing a little bit of extra length to avoid blocking any sidewalks.
[34:36] There would also be no parking on these internal private streets, so the applicant is providing just over 100 additional parking spaces scattered throughout the site.
[34:45] This is consistent with other developments of this type.
[34:48] There's also just under 26 acres of mostly active or mostly excuse me, passive open space in this area.
[34:56] Most of it's on the south side around the ponds.
[34:58] Those are ponds that serve-
[35:00] There's a large portion of the Addison Farm site. They're not just for the subdivision. That's why they're so big for the development that's happening here. There's also a substantial amount of tree preservation in this open space. A lot of it is around the existing stream that runs through sort of the southern portion of this site. But additionally, there is a pretty substantial 60-foot buffer on the northeast side of the site, buffering the existing ochre subdivision to the north. That was a requirement of the original Addison Farms.
[35:29] approval. On the west side of the northern boundary of the site there will be an 8-foot
[35:36] high earthen mound with plantings that are a minimum six feet tall at time of planting.
[35:41] These are required to be evergreen trees and this will have to be irrigated in order
[35:45] to ensure that those plants are maintained. This again would be a 60-foot wide buffer and
[35:52] looking at the buffering plan here which will show up on our screens in a moment you'll
[35:57] see that the applicant has provided a cross-section view of what the existing homes,
[36:04] the impacts of the redwood development on the existing homes as far as distance, height, and things like that.
[36:11] The City Arborist and Parks and Natural Resources Director will inspect the site
[36:17] as it is constructed to determine if additional plantings are required and at that time they would work with the applicant and their contractors to ensure that all of the plantings are
[36:26] are at par with what we would expect of the city.
[36:30] I am going to skip ahead so I apologize that our slides are taking a moment to load here.
[36:35] But these buildings are proposed to be 4.5 and 8, excuse me, 4.6 and 8 unit buildings.
[36:41] And the elevations that were provided by the applicant are in conformance both with the development text and the approved elevations from the preliminary development plan.
[36:49] So all in all staff would recommend approval of this request with all staff conditions and I'm happy to answer any questions.
[37:02] Appreciate the presentation, Anna, and appreciate the patients from the applicant who also had initially been planning to be on the July planning commission agenda.
[37:11] But just due to staff wanting to draw the details were wrapped up for a complete presentation.
[37:16] We appreciate their patients and giving us a next couple of weeks there to get through all that.
[37:21] And I think that was certainly worthwhile.
[37:24] I think the proposal we have here is pretty strong and fulfills a lot of the comments and discussions we've had throughout the overall.
[37:31] Addison Farms discussion and I would concur support of approval for this case here.
[37:38] Thank you.
[37:44] All right, here's your challenge, Janet.
[37:45] Can you go back to the site plan, because it just might be helpful for everyone to see where Hope Lane is actually at and corner up there.
[37:55] Let me try to count my slides backwards.
[37:57] Oh, perfect, thank you, I will not touch the clicker any further.
[38:02] You know, maybe a suggestion that, you know, for City Council, the City Council have to do the street vacation approval as well.
[38:09] Yeah, that'll do the same for the council.
[38:11] You know, almost like that little site plan to show where it's actually at now versus where heritage is coming over and stuff like that.
[38:19] It just might be a little helpful to show that location being right next week.
[38:24] Yeah, no, I absolutely appreciate that I'm making note of that.
[38:26] Thank you.
[38:28] For those who do not have plans, commissioners, you should all have plans in your packets.
[38:33] But hopefully, it is on the northwest corner of this site.
[38:37] It would essentially, if it were maintained without being vacated, it would essentially
[38:41] dead end directly into this eight-foot mound.
[38:44] Otherwise, there would just be a grassy lawn leading up to that eight-foot buffer.
[38:55] To put a support ticket in, to see if we can, it won't get fixed for this meeting, but my council will, hopefully, it's improved.
[39:01] That's
[39:15] so funny. It took 10 minutes after you.
[39:18] Do we have any other questions for staff before we invite the applicant forward?
[39:24] All right. At this time, I'll invite the applicant forward.
[39:27] If you could just state your name and address once you reach the desk.
[39:33] We'll share 7-0-0-7 East Pleasant Valley Road Independence Ohio 4-4-1-3-1.
[39:41] Do you have anything to add to staff's presentation?
[39:43] No, nothing much to add.
[39:46] Okay.
[39:46] Great presentation.
[39:47] Thank you, Anna.
[39:48] Thank you, Jordan.
[39:50] I would appreciate the collaboration on addressing the comments prior to this meeting.
[39:55] We're extremely excited for this neighborhood.
[39:57] It's been really cool seeing all the-
[40:00] Local progress that's going on on on American heritage right now, and we're looking forward to continuing moving forward. So I'm happy to answer any other questions you might have. Sure. Any concerns on any of the conditions? No. Okay. Questions for the applicant?
[40:18] We're the property land property line as to the west on sub area E. Is that that's part of another sub of the other sub area? Is that correct?
[40:28] And is that just going to be open space or with another sub-area as their plan to have some kind of housing over there?
[40:36] So that sub-area is ANH, which has already been through the preliminary and final process.
[40:41] I believe that section one of sub-area is ANH, excuse me, carries shaking your head now.
[40:46] It is in sub-area is ANH, it will be single-family residences that will back up to those first couple of buildings.
[40:52] I think you are correct. I think you did. I wish this thing was a call to sex, but I do believe it's part of section one.
[40:57] I thought so, I just wanted to make sure.
[41:08] Is there going to be any onsite amenities specific to the Redwood part, not the rest of the development, just specifically to this one?
[41:18] There is not.
[41:20] Our residents will utilize the amenities as part of the overall item some farms master plan is bike lane going along Merrick Parkway, but there's no specific onsite amenities.
[41:32] is
[41:35] that consistent with quail pass?
[41:38] Yes.
[41:39] I believe there will be a dog wash station if
[41:45] count that as a vanity.
[41:49] That sounds like a fancy thing to call a hose.
[41:55] But we like it nonetheless.
[41:58] Well, there's a dog park down near the other one,
[42:02] so maybe there's no dog park down here.
[42:04] but they don't have one, they might need one over there.
[42:07] I
[42:10] will mention there are some, though privately maintained,
[42:13] publicly accessible open spaces and playgrounds and things like that throughout the overall Addison Farms development
[42:19] that will be interconnected with this development as well as all of the others through bike paths, sidewalks, and roadways.
[42:27] I have a question.
[42:29] Heading south on Heritage Boulevard to turn into this area,
[42:35] Is there going to be a left turn line there?
[42:37] It doesn't look like it on the just eyeballing it from this map here, but just curious.
[42:48] I would say at this point in time, no, it would be a product of the TIS.
[42:54] And the final traffic impact study, which is the TIS, has not been submitted for review yet.
[42:59] but although the developer is working with his consultants to get that submitted.
[43:07] I think the primary point of contact or point of access will be Merrick Blvard, and
[43:15] there should be adequate access there specifically.
[43:19] Kind of stay tuned, but I would say based upon the way it's all on forward, on Bruce and Heritage.
[43:26] No.
[43:33] Any other questions for the applicant?
[43:37] All right, thank you.
[43:37] Thank you.
[43:38] Are there any members of the public here this evening to speak on this particular case?
[43:44] Seeing none, I'll bring it back to the Commission for either further deliberation or action this evening.
[43:54] I'll make a motion to approve.
[43:58] 2023-2379 final development plan with all staff recommendations.
[44:03] I have a motion by Commissioner Paul.
[44:04] No second, the second by Commissioner Steltzer.
[44:10] Mr. Steltzer?
[44:11] Yes.
[44:12] Mr. Bacari?
[44:13] Yes.
[44:13] Mr. Stroud?
[44:14] Yes.
[44:15] Mr. Nana?
[44:16] Yes.
[44:16] Mr. Pearl?
[44:17] Yes.
[44:17] Vice Chairman Hoffman?
[44:19] Yes.
[44:19] Chairman Simpson?
[44:21] Yes.
[44:21] Motion carries.
[44:22] Thank you very much.
[44:23] Good luck.
[44:36] Whenever you're ready, Elaine, you can read item D into the record.
[44:40] You take as much time as you need.
[44:43] I mean, the computer is going to do what it wants, so.
[44:52] you gentlemen in the back can move a little closer if you'd like you could
[44:57] move maybe to the front row not to put
[45:00] I don't want you on this spot or anything.
[45:05] Case D, Terra-Ultra, section 6 and 9. Case 1, 2023-2728, a request by Terra-Ultra LLC for approval of a final development plan for Terra-Ultra, section 6 and 9, on approximately 48.446 acres containing 96 single-family lots on property-zoned A1 PMU, agricultural district with a plan mixed use overlay district. Case 2, 2021,
[45:33] 23-27-29, a request by Tara Ulta, LLC for approval of a final subdivision
[45:40] plat for Tara Ulta, section 6, on approximately 27.231 acres containing 42 single
[45:48] family lots on property-zoned A1 PMU, agricultural district with a planned mix
[45:53] juice overlay district and located on Bucini Court and Pisa Road.
[46:00] I'm sure that is wrong.
[46:03] Close enough.
[46:06] Case three, 2023-2731, a request by Tara Ulta, LLC for approval of a final subdivision
[46:13] plan for Tara Ulta Section 9 on approximately 21.215 acres containing 54 single-family
[46:20] lots on property-zoned A1 PMU, agricultural district with a planned mix use overlay district
[46:26] and located on Elba Court, Missola Court, Stockdale Farms Drive, and Volterra Court.
[46:35] Thank you, Elaine.
[46:36] That was quite the mouthful.
[46:38] I will be presenting this case as well tonight.
[46:48] All right, so this is for the next two sections of the Terra-Alta subdivision.
[46:55] I will stall for a moment while it's loading here.
[46:58] As an overall thing to remember, so Terra-Alta was originally the Terra-Alta subdivision to the North,
[47:04] With stock deal farms to the south and what's referred to as the Rogers property in the center, those have all been re-zoned several times, and ultimately were combined in 2020 to create one large subdivision with 870 approximately dwelling units.
[47:20] So this is for section 6 and 9. Section 6, as you can see, is on the north side of the site, north of Terra, all to drive just west of section 5, which has been approved, plated, and homes are being built in that section.
[47:32] our belief home is being built at this time. And then section nine is on the south side of what
[47:38] was originally just Tera Alta. It's on the south side of Tera Alta Drive. As to zoning, this is part
[47:46] of the overall Tera Alta plan mixed use overlay. It has an A1 underlying zoning district in this
[47:52] particular area as do all of the properties within the overlay district that are adjacent to these
[47:57] sites, all of the parcels to the north and east as well as to the southeast of this site are
[48:04] zoned FR1 and are located in the township.
[48:09] Excuse me.
[48:15] Location within the subdivision,
[48:18] I think I'm on the correct slide now. So the last time we had some terror also sections come
[48:25] through commission, someone had requested that we provide a map of all of the locations on the site
[48:30] that have been approved to this point.
[48:32] So this is that map.
[48:34] Six and nine are the two marked in red,
[48:36] again, on the north and east sides of the site.
[48:39] So at this time, there are nine sections of terror
[48:42] also that have been approved
[48:43] and are in various stages of the development process.
[48:47] Many of them have homes being built
[48:50] with the infrastructure completed.
[48:51] Some of them have the infrastructure
[48:53] being constructed at this time,
[48:55] like sections 10, 11, and 8, I believe.
[49:01] The site plan, when it decides to show up on our screens here, the applicant is proposing
[49:06] 42 single-family detached homes on just over 27 acres in section 6. Also in section 6,
[49:13] there would be approximately 14 acres of largely passive open space. Much of this is tree preservation,
[49:20] preservation around some existing water bodies, and then also a path that would connect
[49:26] the Greater Terror Alta Subdivision as well as the larger network of bike paths in the city up to the Hickory Woods Park, which is a preservation park located just north of the Terror Alta Subdivision.
[49:38] There would also be within that open space a cluster mailbox unit for the residents of that section.
[49:46] Section 9 would have 54 single-family detached homes on just over 21 acres.
[49:51] There would also be just under an acre of passive open space, it would mostly serve as a buffer to Berlin station road on the east side of the site.
[50:00] I do want to mention landscaping and tree preservation as this is a site that has some really nice natural features that the applicant is using in a really positive way. So there is substantial tree preservation in these sections, especially in the open spaces I mentioned and around the existing stream, which runs through sort of the center of section six on the north side of the site. The majority of the lots in all of these sections, or in both of these sections, excuse me, have tree preservation zones of at least 20%.
[50:30] feet on the back of each lot. Some of them have up to 30 and even more as you get around
[50:35] the courts and things like that on the south side of section 9. One thing of note with
[50:41] those three preservation zones, all of the lots in section 9 that border existing residential
[50:46] properties in the township have substantial tree buffers of at least 30 feet to really provide
[50:52] that buffer to those existing residents just to be considerate of those who have lived there before
[50:58] where the subdivision came in.
[51:00] There will also be a $500 fee per lot for tree preservation.
[51:04] There will be due at time of permits in the middle.
[51:06] This is consistent with the rest of the tarot all to subdivision.
[51:09] I will note that the design guidelines and things like that for this will be consistent
[51:13] with the rest of tarot all to us.
[51:14] They are heightened design requirements than was required in our base code.
[51:18] For example, they need to have at least 35% natural materials like stoner brick
[51:22] on the fronts of the buildings.
[51:23] things, larger roof overhangs, dimensional shingles, they need a window course in their
[51:29] garage door, and no blank walls, so no walls on the building that don't have a window
[51:34] or door.
[51:35] So again, that's one of the benefits of having an overlay district as we can work with applicants
[51:39] to have heightened design requirements to ensure a higher quality subdivision.
[51:44] So staff would recommend approval of all of these cases with all staff conditions, and I'm
[51:48] happy to answer any questions at this time.
[51:50] Thank
[51:52] you, Anna.
[51:56] Questions for staff?
[51:59] That was actually me, Anna, who asked for the...
[52:03] I thought it was, but I couldn't remember staff.
[52:06] Thank you for that.
[52:07] It was really just to get a better idea so everybody understands where the non-single family
[52:12] homes are going to be located within this.
[52:14] Or that there actually are non-single family homes, you know, as part of this larger development
[52:19] as well, type of thing.
[52:20] I would just note that because this is a split school district subdivision,
[52:29] just to remind people of us within the Delaware City schools system as well, type of thing.
[52:38] I have just one small clarification.
[52:41] Currently under construction, our section 8 and 10, section 11 is not approved through engineering yet.
[52:48] But they are working on, they were tweaking a little bit.
[52:51] but that would likely be hopefully coming up soon.
[52:55] I'll let them decide when they come forward, but that one's just not in construction yet.
[53:03] Has there been a larger discussion with the county and with ODOT on the Pollock and 23 interchange?
[53:12] I mean, if you reround the clock for the city way before any of us was here,
[53:18] And you know, there was the old bridge over top, you know, over top of volunteer to bring it out, you know, we're having the new development going in type of thing. But since that's not occurring, you know, how to get the traffic flow on to 23 without going through with without trying to go off of Pollock Road.
[53:38] We have extended Glen Parkway, which is a really nice connection off of Berlin station at this time, and with respect directly to Pollock in 23, I'll leave that question to Jonathan Olin and see if he has any feedback he could share with the commission.
[53:54] I will note that as the rest of Teraalta develops, Stockdale Farms Drive will meet in the center through the Rogers property and connect this section of Teraalta all the way down to Bromila Road on the south side of the Stockdale Farms portion of the subdivision, which can at least attempt to alleviate some of that as people can move elsewhere on some of the county roads.
[54:14] I understand, too, that the county is working on an improvement for Berlin station in Brawmiller Road at that
[54:22] duly named intersection that will aid. I think all those traveling through this vicinity. I do
[54:29] not have a time frame on the county on that, but they have I would say in the past six months done a
[54:36] lot of tree clearing in preparation for that in the future, but I don't know that it's slated for
[54:41] construction yet.
[54:42] Thank you.
[54:43] Which is why I always brought it up and prior to even, you know,
[54:48] Councilman Kaufman coming on that with City Council,
[54:50] I brought up that that was one my reasoning for this one should have been part of,
[54:55] could have been part of the Delaware South New Community Authority since, you know,
[55:00] The Glen Parkway is a major access road out to 23, and that large part of the DSNCA payment is for the Glen Parkway itself. Actually, all of it is for the Glen Parkway and the Ohio Health Boulevard. That is not occurring here, but that is clearly what is going to help occur type of thing with all these roads. And that's just my comment that in future, maybe Councilman Hoffman can kind of keep these things in the back of the room.
[55:29] I remind that just because of that very specific point in time the subdivisions don't connect at some point they are and that road network does need to be paid off one way or the other.
[55:41] I think that's valuable insight and I think that currently with other developments happening more particularly in the northwest, the city as a whole directors are very much more astute on that.
[55:58] I know with regard to Pollock Road in particular I've had contact with ODOT and their desire to reform route 23 can be to my opinion it's a dangerous area that left turn on there so we'll see what happens with that but I have talked to ODOT about that.
[56:26] Any other questions for staff?
[56:27] If you guys could just state your name and address for the record.
[56:32] Jim Bolin with Roman L. Hughes, 148 Westrock Road, Westerville 4308, 2.
[56:40] Cowshries with the MHT, 5500 New Albany Road, Columbus Ohio, 43054.
[56:46] Anything you wanted to add to the staff's presentation?
[56:49] I did have to add one thing, and I missed it on the comments.
[56:55] there's actually 43 lots, which is consistent when we did our original zoning in that what we call phase six, and it says 42.
[57:06] Other than that, it was absolutely perfect.
[57:10] 43 is consistent with what is shown on the drawings.
[57:13] I had a note to change this in my report before I sent it out, and it was a flurry as these reports were going out.
[57:21] We are all learning, attempting to learn to be a lane with things like this, so apologies for that.
[57:29] Thank you, within the tolerance, plus or minus one, I appreciate that catch their gym.
[57:33] I would recommend the planning commission that this is something that you could amend.
[57:40] I think that would be probably for the record, the best attempt forward is to, I believe this would be specifically for
[57:52] That would affect 96 for the final development plans.
[57:59] I believe that should for case 2023-272A be amended from 96 single family lots to 97 single family lots.
[58:12] And for case 2023-2729 amend 42 single family lots to 43 single family lots.
[58:20] would be my recommendation.
[58:25] Do we need to vote on that?
[58:28] Yeah, I recommend you.
[58:29] I make a motion to amend and vote on the amendment.
[58:34] And then in the event that passes,
[58:36] if in the event you make a recommendation on those cases,
[58:40] you recommend them as amended.
[58:43] Okay.
[58:47] I'll make a motion to amend the staff report 20232728.
[58:53] 8, final development plan to 97 single-family lots, and amend 20232729 Final Subdivision
[59:02] plan for staff recommendations to 43 single-family lots.
[59:07] Motion by Commissioner Pral.
[59:09] Second.
[59:10] Second by Councilman Hoffman.
[59:15] Mr. Steltzer.
[59:16] Yes.
[59:17] Mr. Bacari.
[59:18] Yes.
[59:18] Mr. Stroud.
[59:19] Yes.
[59:20] Mr. Nana.
[59:20] Yes.
[59:21] Mr. Pral.
[59:22] Yes.
[59:22] Ms. Chairman Hoffman?
[59:24] Yes.
[59:24] Chairman Simpson.
[59:25] Yes.
[59:26] I like how you just read them together and didn't even ask.
[59:29] You're just like, I'm taking control.
[59:31] I'm not taking control.
[59:32] I was going to say, you know, per what, you know, Mr. Stone.
[59:39] So, Chairman Simpson, when you make the next motion or whoever dies,
[59:43] if you can just do for case one and two as amended,
[59:50] please.
[59:52] One question that I have is weirdly enough.
[59:57] I've heard some complaints from-
[1:00:00] Folks, on prasena way, that about some of the ranch-style homes near the entrance, are these
[1:00:11] in these areas, are these going to be more single-family homes like on prasena way, and
[1:00:19] that's sort of construction or what? Do you know what I'm saying here?
[1:00:24] Well, I don't know where those exec streets are, but I can tell you that these are designed to be two-story
[1:00:29] Single-family homes where most of our moved on empty master stuff was done on the
[1:00:34] West side of the community itself
[1:00:36] That that answers
[1:00:38] Of which rhinomes is sold all but to which is amazing
[1:00:42] Any
[1:00:48] additional
[1:00:50] Questions for the applicant all
[1:00:55] right. Thank you gentlemen
[1:00:56] Well, there are no members of the public here. So I'm gonna assume there's no comment on this particular case
[1:01:01] So, I'll bring it back to the commission for either further deliberation or action.
[1:01:08] Just a reminder to note them as amended for the first and second case.
[1:01:14] I'll move for approval of case number 2023-2728 as amended with all conditions in the staff report.
[1:01:22] Motion by Councilman Hoffman.
[1:01:25] Second.
[1:01:26] Second by Commissioner Nana.
[1:01:31] Mr. Steltzer?
[1:01:33] Yes.
[1:01:33] Mr. McCory?
[1:01:34] Yes.
[1:01:34] Mr. Stroud?
[1:01:35] Yes. Mr. Nana. Yes. Mr. Pearl. Yes. Vice Chairman Hoffman. Yes.
[1:01:40] Chairman Simpson. Yes. I move for case number 2023-2729 as amended with all conditions in the staff report.
[1:01:50] Motion by Councilman Hoffman. Second. Second by Commissioner Nana.
[1:01:57] Mr. Steltzer. Yes. Mr. McCarrie. Yes. Mr. Stroud. Yes. Mr. Nana. Yes.
[1:02:07] Mr.
[1:02:08] I'll move for the approval of case number 2023-2731 with all conditions in the staff report motion by councilman Hoffman second the second by commissioner Nana
[1:02:20] Mr. Steltzer
[1:02:22] Yes, Mr. McCarrie. Yes, Mr. Stroud. Yes, Mr. Nana. Yes, Mr. Pearl. Yes, Vice Chairman Hoffman. Yes, Chairman Simpson. Yes
[1:02:33] Good luck, gentlemen, bill away
[1:02:35] Thank you. Thank you. I hope all your meetings go this smoothly
[1:02:39] It doesn't always work this way, but sometimes.
[1:02:44] Yeah, we better find some wood to knock on for sure.
[1:02:47] Thank
[1:02:51] you.
[1:02:52] Yes.
[1:03:03] All right, moving on to the next item, onto nice agenda.
[1:03:06] The planning director's report.
[1:03:09] Appreciate the time.
[1:03:11] I'll keep it relatively short.
[1:03:13] We've received a number of applications for the September Planning Commission agenda.
[1:03:18] So I'd ask for, if there's any feedback from the commission, would there be a preference to have one longer meeting at the early September meeting?
[1:03:30] Or would there be a preference in the event that's tasked for seeing a longer meeting to separate into two separate meetings?
[1:03:37] I figured I'd at least ask, but the second, but I noted that the second planning commission meeting in September would be also fair week,
[1:03:47] which could be an issue, but I figure I at least ask if there's a preference out of commission.
[1:03:54] I support the longer eating, I'll stay until midnight, ever.
[1:04:01] I concur longer meetings, but are.
[1:04:04] Yeah, I'll third that.
[1:04:06] Cool, I appreciate the feedback. I believe staff, we can get
[1:04:10] everything wrapped up for the first meeting, but I just wanted at least
[1:04:14] Just gauge feedback and see what the preference was there, but I think that's how we'll proceed here.
[1:04:21] With that said, we've got a number of cases, a couple of concept plans.
[1:04:25] I think we always have staff like to appreciate for more complex cases to advance a concept plan
[1:04:32] prior to making a formal submission.
[1:04:35] We'll have two concept plans at the meeting.
[1:04:38] We'll see concept plan we saw earlier this year at Donovan Farms.
[1:04:43] we've received a submission for their zoning and preliminary plan, so kind of cool to see,
[1:04:48] you know, a couple of concept plans going and then the product of a concept plan from earlier
[1:04:53] and you're moving forth. Another couple of rezoning items and extension of another development plans,
[1:05:00] There will be a variety of subjects that, apologies for what might be a larger packet, but we'll do what we can to try to get this out in a timely manner on Friday, that way you guys have enough time to go over things. And in the event, there's any questions, if you feel free to reach out to staff prior to the meeting, if there's something that might seem confusing or anything like that. We welcome any time. We have larger oversized drawings too, that we always ask for submission.
[1:05:29] So in the event, something's harder to read, eight and a half by 11 or 11 by 17.
[1:05:35] We do typically have some larger oversight as drawings too on the office.
[1:05:40] With that said, while we've remaining pretty busy, as far as permit volume goes,
[1:05:45] especially in time of vacations with staff, I think we're hanging in here,
[1:05:50] definitely going on across the city.
[1:05:53] Yeah, HPC's had a couple interesting cases too that have been advancing through the process.
[1:05:59] us. And with that said, that will conclude the director's report.
[1:06:06] I think a bite on land, very sad.
[1:06:09] And goodbye to the land, we'll be very sad.
[1:06:12] We've been attempting to learn Granicus and this just maze of screens over here.
[1:06:20] So for the September meeting and moving forth, the planning staff will be completing agendas
[1:06:26] and I'll lead you to meetings of Polynesian advance for
[1:06:31] what might be some issues there.
[1:06:32] I don't have a replacement.
[1:06:33] You do not train in your back up here.
[1:06:35] Elaine.
[1:06:37] I have made extensive notes of every duty I do.
[1:06:40] You got it.
[1:06:41] So I, with pictures and arrows.
[1:06:44] So.
[1:06:44] It is very detailed.
[1:06:45] I might add it.
[1:06:46] It is a very, very detailed guide.
[1:06:47] I, I Tom Homan proved it.
[1:06:50] I was, I was going to say it.
[1:06:55] Did you do videos of your,
[1:06:56] There's a video like iPhone videos doing everything.
[1:07:00] There are some screenshots of me.
[1:07:06] But with that said, there's something of a recurring joke amongst planning staff, and
[1:07:12] this is what we've referred to as a technology ghost that seems to haunt our department.
[1:07:17] I don't know what it is, but when Lance left, that ghost seemed to migrate to Dave's computer, and
[1:07:23] when Dave left, that ghost seems to somehow migrate to my computer, because I've been having
[1:07:27] a flurry of technology issues the last few months that I can't explain so well you don't need to
[1:07:32] explain it your IT department does exactly so I'll try to not touch stuff over here because I'm
[1:07:37] hoping that doesn't follow to Ann or David you don't want the the technology does it's not fun
[1:07:45] sounds like as long as you don't leave we're safe so can I give it to Elaine and just Pablo want the
[1:07:51] technology guest.
[1:07:55] All right. We're going to miss you later. Seriously, though. We appreciate all your time. Yeah, we got to get in all of our
[1:08:00] jobs tonight. Obviously, I'm trying to cram lake years worth in.
[1:08:04] Well, I mean, it's a perfect meeting with the, you know, everything working fantastic. Yeah, I know. What a way to go out.
[1:08:11] I had to avoid the temptation of putting a lot numbers on every case. It was really hard to resist that.
[1:08:17] Okay, we'll always remember your last meeting.
[1:08:20] All right, Commission member, comments and discussion.
[1:08:22] I'll start down here with Commissioner Nana.
[1:08:25] Sure, so I'm not sure the packet usually arrives on my door.
[1:08:30] I did not get one and I just kind of assumed
[1:08:32] there was going to be one here since one didn't arrive.
[1:08:35] It's arrived every other time.
[1:08:36] So I'm not sure if somebody swiped it or if it didn't get dropped off.
[1:08:43] Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what happened.
[1:08:44] And I noticed that you sent the PDF out in an email,
[1:08:46] So I thought maybe we were just supposed to review it that way, but
[1:08:50] No, sorry about that and I'd say in the future if you don't see something come to you on a Friday or Saturday
[1:08:56] Please give me a call Monday, and I'd it's possibly maybe delivered to the wrong place to is I do apologize for any
[1:09:03] Miss half there, but yeah, if you ever come Monday, don't don't have a packet yet
[1:09:07] Please give me a call and that'll be my top priority
[1:09:12] I've been doing this forever and I've never had that happen
[1:09:15] Can you imagine the person's disappointment when they swiped it off your porch?
[1:09:19] I don't know, I'm saying that would not the package you want to steal, I suppose.
[1:09:32] Just as usual, thanks for everyone that is here today, you know, and the staff and the commissioners.
[1:09:41] We have a full attendance today, and it's great, thank you so much.
[1:09:47] Um, yeah, the last time I, Elaine, the last time I, we talked, I think I believe my
[1:09:54] term, uh, in the coming one, in this coming
[1:10:01] You have been reappointed from a conversation that when you're ready to step down, let me or
[1:10:10] will let the mayor know that's not approved either, he let me know too. You go you're being
[1:10:17] power. No, I understand you you might be heading towards some retirement. Yeah, I should be
[1:10:26] retiring in September, but that doesn't stop me from doing the good thing to the city of
[1:10:33] Delaware. So I'm going to stay on board until we get a replacement. I have a good hobby recommendation
[1:10:43] You should go into public service and retirement, you could go to council meeting, so that's all I have.
[1:10:55] George?
[1:10:58] I just want to again, thank you, Elaine.
[1:11:00] Oh, thank you.
[1:11:01] You know, just providing all the information and being at the meetings and best of luck to you as you move forward in your new career.
[1:11:09] I want to thank everybody else too for all the hard work you do by getting the packets
[1:11:15] together and thinking of that nature and also the commission itself.
[1:11:20] I do want to make one note.
[1:11:22] I know that when I first started here, I was complaining about that Wawa, but Wawa is coming
[1:11:29] to Ohio now.
[1:11:31] I just found out that they have signed out.
[1:11:34] They started essentially netting for no mistake and they are coming up this way.
[1:11:37] So, on that planning committee, if you can,
[1:11:40] that commission over there, you know, for Delaware planning,
[1:11:43] that might be one of the incentives, you say,
[1:11:45] hey, wow, wow, you know, this guy has been petitioning
[1:11:48] this for a while, you get it here.
[1:11:50] If I pick it, it's some turf for him.
[1:11:52] You know, I think you're just got both jangles
[1:11:54] that haven't went over there yet.
[1:11:56] They dig into both jangles over there.
[1:11:58] So, what?
[1:11:59] Yes, they opened up.
[1:12:01] I think it should open up recently and for not mistaken.
[1:12:04] Yeah, they have made it up.
[1:12:06] So we need to start to, you know, I like to like the development
[1:12:09] but we can start bringing in some of them chains.
[1:12:12] Yeah, thank you again, Lane.
[1:12:14] Be safe.
[1:12:14] Thank you.
[1:12:18] Elaine, we love you, but you know them pal people, they don't know
[1:12:26] how to use the screens at the sheets down there.
[1:12:31] It's like, I don't know.
[1:12:34] So I'm just warning you, because you've known sheets,
[1:12:37] And it's a five-star restaurant.
[1:12:40] So yeah, so be ready to wait in line because they don't know what they're doing.
[1:12:48] Beyond that, Commissioner Holman had mentioned that the recruitment for the Commissioner
[1:12:58] Holman, City Manager Holman had mentioned that they're winnowing down the candidates for
[1:13:06] for the Planning Director position.
[1:13:09] I mentioned to him, I think that it would be good if the Planning Commission was briefed on it in the coming days with the winnowing down just to get our feedback.
[1:13:24] So maybe be on the lookout for that other than that, I'm all good.
[1:13:28] I love you Elaine. Tomorrow 430 at the sand bar. If you want to go I'm not buying but
[1:13:45] she'll be drinking. This is somebody's buying. Let me turn the mic off.
[1:13:51] Dean I believe we have two more meetings coming up in August. The Delaware South New Community
[1:13:59] the authority on August 15th, and then the Southwest-focused area meeting on August 23rd.
[1:14:08] That's correct. I appreciate you mentioning that I just left my mind at everything going on.
[1:14:12] We're still planning on having the focus area plan. We've been in regular communication with
[1:14:17] the consultant planning next, and I believe I'm not sure we ever had a concrete timetables
[1:14:24] to what we're hoping to have a final presentation of City Council, but I believe we're on track for that occur before the end of the years, the goal.
[1:14:33] So we're hopeful we'll have effectively a draft of what some of this might look like at the next task force meeting.
[1:14:40] So it should be a great opportunity to kind of see what we've been working on and a good chance for comments.
[1:14:46] and so I think I'm prepared to see some cool stuff
[1:14:50] and it'll be a good chance to any feedback
[1:14:52] you might have to share with that
[1:14:54] because I think they're getting close to having
[1:14:57] some of the documentation of what they'll be present.
[1:15:00] In stages where we can start kind of seeing what it'll look like now. We did have a community feedback sometime. Month ago or something like that at the wine. There was a couple of people who did show up and get feedback so they'll be part of whatever they come up with on their notes type of thing. Other than that, you know, Lane, we will definitely miss you. Thank you. When did you start? When was how long ago was that before? Before you even got that full title?
[1:15:29] I think it's 14, it's been like nine or 10 years, I have to go back and look.
[1:15:37] It's been fun, it's been fun.
[1:15:40] Wonderful, you have an aged a bit.
[1:15:42] You're my favorite.
[1:15:48] Paul?
[1:15:50] Echoing everyone else, thank you for all of your years of service to this commission and
[1:15:56] to the city as a whole.
[1:15:57] I saw the announcement on Facebook today about Tom Homan, I guess, a year in advance but stepping down and I thought that was my only surprise with city staffing today and wasn't ready for that to hear but wish you the best of luck and we'll miss you here.
[1:16:16] That's all I've got.
[1:16:19] Don't go over there to pound, start stealing our people.
[1:16:28] I don't think I can really say anything that hasn't already been said, we've appreciated
[1:16:33] working with you and we're sad to see you go and we'll miss you and now we won't have
[1:16:40] any Elaine to run the stuff and these guys are going to have to run it and the way things
[1:16:45] are gone it's going to be that's going to get to be a while so tender but we wish you the
[1:16:51] best of luck on your new endeavor. And when you miss us, we'll find a spot for you when you want to come back.
[1:16:56] Thank you. Well, if I may, I just want to say it has been a privilege to be a part of this,
[1:17:04] a little part of this commission and to sit us, you know, beside all of you for many years.
[1:17:10] And I think Stacy, you're like my OG. You've probably been here longer than I have.
[1:17:15] I think so, at this point, I don't know, my name is a little fuzzy.
[1:17:21] For volunteers, you do extraordinary work and you make a difference in this community
[1:17:26] and you have always treated our citizens with the utmost respect and I appreciate that because
[1:17:36] many of us don't understand this process and it's confusing and it's intimidating to come
[1:17:42] up in front of a board and speak, and really not understand what you're saying, or, you know,
[1:17:48] I don't mean that disrespectfully to anybody, but you guys have always treated them kind and fairness,
[1:17:57] and listen to their concerns, and I hope I find that again.
[1:18:04] Thank you.
[1:18:06] All right guys, let's not belabor this. Let's be done. It is 7.48 pm. We've got our next meeting on
[1:18:13] September 6, 2023. If you, if any conflicts arise, I would assume you can reach out to Jordan
[1:18:20] and let him know in, in Elaine's departure. And look forward to seeing everybody in September.
[1:18:26] So meeting adjourned.