1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:11,320 Welcome everyone to the Dell Rapids City Council regular session meeting dated August 17, 2026, Monday at 7 p.m. 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:17,020 Welcome to everybody sitting out here. Again, I'm excited to see everyone smiling faces. 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:27,500 Interested in your local government and welcome to everyone online and listening at home. If you would, please join me in saying the pledge of allegiance. 4 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:34,520 Oh, I'm sorry, roll call. My bad. I need to put my glasses on, so read my shelves. 5 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:34,900 Here. 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:35,380 Time. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,300 Here. Nelson. 8 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:37,800 Cavageli. Here. 9 00:00:38,380 --> 00:00:38,480 Here. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,060 Ron Sagan. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:39,420 Here. 12 00:00:39,420 --> 00:00:39,760 Mercing. 13 00:00:40,460 --> 00:00:40,760 Hans Lake. 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:41,880 Mayor Simmons. 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,820 Now, please join me in saying the pledge of allegiance. 16 00:01:01,210 --> 00:01:02,250 Thank you. 17 00:01:07,430 --> 00:01:07,830 Thank you. 18 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:08,790 Thank you. 19 00:01:08,790 --> 00:01:12,270 At this point, I will entertain a motion to approve the invitation. 20 00:01:12,270 --> 00:01:15,010 agenda as Britain. 21 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:17,350 So I'm going to count the jelly. 22 00:01:17,850 --> 00:01:18,590 Is that second? 23 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:20,710 Any further discussion? 24 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:21,630 Hearing none. 25 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:24,370 All those in favor of approving the agenda, say aye. 26 00:01:25,230 --> 00:01:26,010 Opposed name. 27 00:01:26,230 --> 00:01:28,130 Motion carry to approve the agenda. 28 00:01:28,770 --> 00:01:31,870 Next, looking at approving the minutes, the minutes, 29 00:01:32,070 --> 00:01:34,670 from August 3rd in 2026. 30 00:01:35,790 --> 00:01:36,650 Window, all right? 31 00:01:37,090 --> 00:01:40,770 Approval of minutes for August 3rd and August 3rd. 32 00:01:40,770 --> 00:01:43,900 Thank you. 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Move to approve. 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,260 Okay. 35 00:01:47,660 --> 00:01:48,580 For the discussion. 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,360 All those in favor of approving the minute say I. 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,100 I oppose me. 38 00:01:54,140 --> 00:01:57,220 Motion carried to approve the minutes moving on. 39 00:01:57,220 --> 00:01:59,220 Visitors to be heard tonight. 40 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:02,920 Please come forward and say your name. 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,060 Make sure you speak into the microphone so that we can hear you. 42 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:08,100 Clear is about. 43 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:10,220 And now you can hear us. 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Sure people have to. 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,320 I'm a little short. 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,740 I think you're talking to me today. 47 00:02:15,340 --> 00:02:15,580 All right. 48 00:02:15,660 --> 00:02:16,660 Thank you very much. 49 00:02:17,380 --> 00:02:19,180 My name is Solve Larsen Hendrickson. 50 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:23,980 I live at the corner of Orleans and East Six Street. 51 00:02:24,860 --> 00:02:27,320 And I am subject to. 52 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,420 The street repairs that will happen in the summer of 19. 53 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:33,520 Excuse me. 54 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:52,460 In 2007, while I support infrastructure improvements in necessary street repairs, I strongly urge the city to revise its current plans and preserve these invaluable assets of the mature trees in on our blocks in the following ways. 55 00:02:52,460 --> 00:03:02,880 One, urban heat mitigation, the extensive canopy of trees shield are asphalt streets inside walks from intense sunlight, 56 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:15,160 losing them will create an heat island effect drastically reducing, raising summer temperatures on our blocks and increasing cooling costs for nearby homes. 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:23,300 2. There's a loss of the birds and pollinators sanctuaries. 3. Mental and physical well-being. 58 00:03:23,940 --> 00:03:31,280 Studies consistently show that green neighborhoods with mature canopies reduce stress, lower blood pressures, 59 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:38,180 and encourage residents to walk and exercise outside. 4. Stormwater and Safety. 60 00:03:38,180 --> 00:03:46,060 The massive root systems of these mature trees absorb thousands of gallons of rainwater, removing 61 00:03:46,060 --> 00:03:50,400 these mature trees increases the risks of street flooding. 62 00:03:51,380 --> 00:03:56,520 Because the newly planted sapling takes decades to provide the same health benefits, 63 00:03:57,420 --> 00:04:01,820 I am requesting that the city explore proven engineering alternatives. 64 00:04:01,820 --> 00:04:10,140 Number one, I asked the city to share any formal tree health or canopy assessment for the six 65 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:12,140 street and Orleans project. 66 00:04:13,580 --> 00:04:21,140 Two, I asked the city to explore the possibilities of narrower grading zone, lower or higher 67 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:28,180 where possible or paths in adjusting curbing to protect root systems of these mature trees. 68 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:36,400 I ask the city to replace any removed mature trees with native saplings at no expense to homeowners. 69 00:04:37,620 --> 00:04:46,220 I thank each of you for your time, the meetings, your administrator, Steve, the engineer, Zach, and the park director. 70 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,000 Clarence that they've had with me and for this current meeting. 71 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:58,380 I thank you for your time, your dedication to our city of Dell Rapids, and your serious 72 00:04:58,380 --> 00:04:59,180 considerate. 73 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:13,340 Sincerely, Salve Larison Hendrixen. And I do have this printed out May I pass this out? May I start with Dean over here? 74 00:05:13,340 --> 00:05:17,580 I think there's enough for all of you to take one and then tap around. 75 00:05:17,820 --> 00:05:18,740 Thank you very much. 76 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,740 Thank you, Solvey. 77 00:05:21,340 --> 00:05:22,340 Any other visitors tonight? 78 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:26,190 No one? 79 00:05:27,310 --> 00:05:27,830 No one? 80 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:29,630 All right. 81 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:35,060 All right. 82 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:36,360 I'll invite Captain Ziska. 83 00:05:38,770 --> 00:05:39,950 Yes, Mayor, I asked Captain. 84 00:05:40,330 --> 00:05:41,610 Is this going to come tonight? 85 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:46,070 I mean, it's going to give us an update from the sheriff's office. 86 00:05:46,590 --> 00:05:48,770 And he answer any questions you may have. 87 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:55,330 Mayors, and it's Council members, thanks for having me today. 88 00:05:55,470 --> 00:05:58,170 My name is Adam Ziske, I'm the Patrol Captain for the Sheriff's Office. 89 00:05:58,350 --> 00:06:02,050 I served in that capacity for about the last six years. 90 00:06:03,330 --> 00:06:08,450 Not entirely sure what question that you have, but it'd be happy to answer any of them. 91 00:06:08,570 --> 00:06:10,910 I work primarily with the City Administrator. 92 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:13,750 I would say that we have contract. 93 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:15,370 Sorry, contact. 94 00:06:16,970 --> 00:06:21,410 weekly, if first for sure several times a month, whenever he has a question, we'll get 95 00:06:21,410 --> 00:06:25,990 answered pretty promptly. You're striking through me, and that's a change we made 96 00:06:26,490 --> 00:06:36,570 because there was some very fine line stuff that we were being asked to enforce, and I wanted 97 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:41,350 to make sure that we were on the same page as far as the city on it, because as I'm still 98 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:43,490 of your talk to you for the last six years, 99 00:06:43,870 --> 00:06:46,670 we were trying to do what's right for the entire city. 100 00:06:47,170 --> 00:06:49,150 We are trying to do what the city counselors 101 00:06:49,150 --> 00:06:50,770 would want us to do. 102 00:06:51,630 --> 00:06:54,270 And that's how we make our enforcement decisions. 103 00:06:56,610 --> 00:06:59,250 And that's how we spend how we've made our enforcement decisions. 104 00:07:00,310 --> 00:07:03,110 So we want to make sure everything was still going 105 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:05,010 according to what we had. 106 00:07:05,370 --> 00:07:07,830 Talk to what, or if those needs to change, 107 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:10,910 and that's why I liaison with Steve Rangley. 108 00:07:12,270 --> 00:07:15,310 Just so he are where in the last 30 days, 109 00:07:15,650 --> 00:07:19,570 there has been 216 calls for service in the city of Daurempids. 110 00:07:19,930 --> 00:07:23,590 That's 7.2 calls are just a little more 7 calls a day, 111 00:07:23,730 --> 00:07:25,330 and the average of the last 30 days. 112 00:07:26,190 --> 00:07:29,950 That's up slightly from about six and a half calls last year, 113 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:32,170 all those same time period with 193. 114 00:07:33,210 --> 00:07:36,170 So 216 and from 193 and 225. 115 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:44,130 The year today calls is 1593 that drives with the last 30 days because that's approximately 116 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:46,310 a little over several calls per day. 117 00:07:46,610 --> 00:07:51,850 Last year we had 1448 and that was just over six calls a day so we had approximately one 118 00:07:51,850 --> 00:07:53,290 more call a day. 119 00:07:53,870 --> 00:07:54,530 What are these calls? 120 00:07:54,730 --> 00:07:58,650 These calls can be anything, the thing that I didn't include in these numbers was our 121 00:07:58,650 --> 00:08:04,650 self-aditiative activity which is traffic stops stopping out with somebody whether it's 122 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:09,670 and we need something, but it's not a call, but it doesn't come from extra dispatch, it comes from 123 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:15,950 our deputy's initiated that contact, which happens quite often within those cities, of the dumb rabbits. 124 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:22,570 The way that we staff is we have two deputies primarily that rotate through the city. 125 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:30,990 The reason that we did that two on days and two on nights, and the reason that we do this is so that there's some familiarity with 126 00:08:30,990 --> 00:08:33,590 the deputy and the city and the residents of the city. 127 00:08:34,210 --> 00:08:37,710 You might see my deputy is in the last few years on day shift, especially walking down 128 00:08:37,710 --> 00:08:41,750 the main street, checking in like the businesses and nights, they're checking doors, 129 00:08:42,010 --> 00:08:46,450 one certain businesses, they're making contact with people in the park that you'd contact 130 00:08:46,450 --> 00:08:47,190 in. 131 00:08:47,310 --> 00:08:52,570 They're looking for people who are in unusual places at unusual times, which I just 132 00:08:52,570 --> 00:08:55,750 think, well, we're able to make contact with those people and find out what they're doing. 133 00:08:55,750 --> 00:09:02,730 So, a lot of what they're doing is preventative, you pay for the city pays for 23 hours of service a day. 134 00:09:03,050 --> 00:09:09,030 I'm proud to tell you that there's multiple deputies up here, you get more and more hours. 135 00:09:09,690 --> 00:09:15,670 There's never been a month that's passed in the last six years that we haven't been over time by at least two hours, 136 00:09:15,890 --> 00:09:19,630 a set of four, a few February's, which only had 28 days. 137 00:09:19,630 --> 00:09:24,070 When that happens, I call Steve's, and I want to know, there's just, it's a mathematical 138 00:09:25,850 --> 00:09:30,030 possibility sometimes, but if you added in the hours that our detective bureau works, 139 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:34,230 which is every case that comes out of the door app that's whether it's a drug case or 140 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:39,730 banal is in case, whether it's a drug case or a person crime, those all go to our detectives. 141 00:09:40,170 --> 00:09:45,750 In our detective bureau, we have general detectives and we have crimes if the person detectives 142 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:49,870 We have internet, current detectives or I can't detectives. 143 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:53,010 And we have channels that I think I said that. 144 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:55,490 These cases, they go to them. 145 00:09:55,690 --> 00:09:58,930 They review every single case and decide whether or not 146 00:09:58,930 --> 00:09:59,970 they're saw the ability fact. 147 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,120 Here's what we can do to solve these crimes. That's what we're joining the crimes get solved. These hours are not 148 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:13,860 both to the city. They are not reflected in our spreadsheets, because these detectives work on cases from across the county in the same way. 149 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:21,940 Whether you're a contractor, you're not, if there's a crime in the right area, they're not contracted with us. We are going to try and solve that crime. 150 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:27,200 We're not looking to it. What we don't do is we don't spend any contravening time in the right area. 151 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,000 because we don't go there, we certainly respond to calls. 152 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:33,760 We might sit there sometimes, looking for suspicious 153 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,320 activity and things like that. 154 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,000 But they don't contract with us, so they 155 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 cannot go to a specific lock in time per day. 156 00:10:41,940 --> 00:10:44,960 The even there's two contracts that are unique, 157 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,400 one is yours because of the amount of powers. 158 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,560 The amount of hearts that are getting some money 159 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,460 through Friday, deputy, that they pay for. 160 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,460 They pay for full time of TV, which is full time and boy, 161 00:10:55,460 --> 00:10:59,580 which is the car, and whatever the true cost of that employee is, 162 00:10:59,780 --> 00:11:02,000 including over time, they started that simply. 163 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,200 You're just going to grant and continue that throughout my, 164 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,140 almost my whole entire team are going to at least the last decade. 165 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:12,680 Those are the two unique ones at night. 166 00:11:12,820 --> 00:11:14,340 They have the same contract with you. 167 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,980 So we're there all night. 168 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:18,880 As soon as that ship comes on, they're out and heartbroken, 169 00:11:19,060 --> 00:11:19,940 and that's where they stay. 170 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:23,300 So those are kind of the differences between contracts. 171 00:11:23,860 --> 00:11:29,480 the other ones just have, you know, four or six feet hours. We don't specify what time 172 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,740 we're going to be there because we don't want people to know exactly what we're going to be there. 173 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,780 We kind of are responding to things that are times that people want us there and that's when we show up. 174 00:11:40,020 --> 00:11:46,280 But I'd be here if I didn't mention the five S.R. rules, school resource officers that are in each one of our school districts. 175 00:11:46,280 --> 00:12:00,700 That, when schools and session that puts a deputy in your time on either Friday typically during school hours before and after working school zones, the city is not charged for that and that person does not charge contract hours, but it's in town. 176 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:07,200 We don't have any contracts within the other schools. We don't have any ammo or anything else we're invited in as guests. 177 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,300 This is important because my diabetes can be anywhere during a critical incident. 178 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,760 So whether we have a critical incident here in town, or down in Baltic, or in Render, 179 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:23,960 I have five more people that can respond if needed to those emergencies or can cover 180 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,000 a contract time. 181 00:12:25,380 --> 00:12:29,640 Well, the diabetes who are on the road, go out and take care of those calls, frequently 182 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,700 those stay in the schools or around the schools, but there also be available for calls. 183 00:12:33,700 --> 00:12:41,800 These find it as a rose are completely subsidized by the taxpayers of the county and it is a kind of a crown jewel. 184 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:48,100 Something that we're really proud of when it comes to our enforcement set up when it comes to our mechanism. 185 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,940 Our deputy is getting 36 hours of mandatory training per year. 186 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,080 This is 16 hours more than the state minimum and that's a minimum. 187 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,700 That's a start that's just in house training. 188 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:08,380 We've done less than a heavily on instructors within the share of softness so that we'll have to spend extra money sending people to instructors. 189 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:11,200 There's a ton of value added there. 190 00:13:11,420 --> 00:13:18,960 It makes everybody safer and allows us to have the latest and greatest equipment, which is what I don't know if these need to do this job effectively, 191 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:22,540 to stay in the age with the pace of work and the pace of crime that that happens. 192 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:24,700 We also have a major footprint that's involved. 193 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,560 The share of softness has to do all the works and all the civil papers. 194 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:31,140 So if you look at a hot map of all of our locations, 195 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,900 who falls really red, who falls not around that's hard for you. 196 00:13:35,060 --> 00:13:35,560 But who falls? 197 00:13:35,660 --> 00:13:36,840 And people don't realize that. 198 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,840 We have to staff a rover in order to be in the city when they're 199 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,100 needed to get this done. 200 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,740 And then they'll come up with a county in the evening, 201 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,360 when they're done trying to serve their stuff. 202 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,740 They're doing it in the city or for the city. 203 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,300 Other than that, I'm open for any questions that you may have. 204 00:13:57,300 --> 00:14:06,060 I know that the new contract loader just went out, reflecting our increase, which is very 205 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:06,800 minimal. 206 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,500 That increase is not a true cause either of what it caused us for an FTE. 207 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,700 It's about 78% of what an FTE is. 208 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:20,000 The rest of this is subsidized and I think it's important to note that historically we've 209 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:26,740 tried to make these increases as much as possible with larger increases being around that 210 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:33,480 2021, 2022 timeline, when prices for everything rose and prices continue to rise in our 211 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,620 cost continued to rise. But we have made a commitment to keep our services affordable 212 00:14:38,620 --> 00:14:43,460 and if you compare it to a city agency where you're providing your equipment training 213 00:14:45,460 --> 00:14:50,680 and certifications, I think you'll find that there is really no comparison monetarily. 214 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,700 We have been up here for a lot of years and we really enjoy policing the city of Darappitsin. 215 00:14:57,820 --> 00:14:59,980 I know for a fact that my one of my deputies is in them. 216 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Office every single morning, talk to you about the staff seeing a first and any problems specific to the city that need to be adjusted that day. 217 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,620 That's all I can think of to talk about, but probably talk all day, but if there's any questions at the 218 00:15:17,340 --> 00:15:17,340 table. 219 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,900 Thank you. 220 00:15:19,020 --> 00:15:19,120 Yeah. 221 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,080 I'll be a couple quick first. Two moment two questions for you. 222 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,520 I think I'll be happy to be back. Thank you. 223 00:15:25,580 --> 00:15:25,940 Thank you. 224 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,720 Thank you. 225 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:35,900 The two questions that I have is if you're not going to offer your gut, because I don't 226 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:41,640 see this research for is agreement that where is before us, you say we're the only one 227 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,400 like that, is that the best agreement, is there something different? We should be looking at, 228 00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:50,460 what is your comfort, you hear about all the crime, we're not in Sioux Falls, and many 229 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:56,060 hot county, and thankfully now we're at this is is somewhat shielded from some of that. 230 00:15:56,060 --> 00:16:00,940 Yeah, so looking long-term, I just want to make sure that we are covered with the best agreement. 231 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:05,720 We've got, you know, second part is what kind of average response time will we see in and don't we? 232 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,580 It's great questions. 233 00:16:08,060 --> 00:16:12,400 I would say that the type of contact you have right now is the correct one. 234 00:16:12,860 --> 00:16:16,800 One thing we do in the summer, one of my assets are always shifts hours. 235 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,080 So while summer, you can be here during, well, the rest of my activities aren't breathing at a certain time. 236 00:16:22,820 --> 00:16:24,060 So when make sure it's here. 237 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:27,960 So there's no, no, no, there isn't overlapped almost there. 238 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,840 So there's very little time where there won't be a WD and does. 239 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,180 Even if we have problems going on in Baltic, 240 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,880 where it might pull a dull rep, it's person out of dull rep, it's temporarily. 241 00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:44,540 Another WD responds to Baltic so that the dull rep at stability can come back as quickly as possible. 242 00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:49,180 That's how it would always run that. But in the interest of officer safety and public safety, 243 00:16:49,180 --> 00:16:55,960 times, and I would say a lot to this, but sometimes the deputy will leave a town, more still listening 244 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:04,440 to calls or still taking calls, to do a full FTE is challenging, Stephen, I talked it out last year 245 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,420 of the year before, and kind of looked at some of those options, but I really don't. Unless we had 246 00:17:09,420 --> 00:17:16,180 a resident deputy, one of the states there didn't go back to the office frequently. I think what you 247 00:17:16,180 --> 00:17:22,600 this is really good. And like I said, we do more hours than we advertise. So Dell, we're 248 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,360 athletes in these two deputies, and that's where you see that in place. And now I got two people, 249 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:32,060 either on two different calls or one incident, and I've got two people. We also rely heavily, 250 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:37,480 if we have EMTs, a lot of our deputies are cross-trained EMTs. So when we go and all of them, 251 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,360 well, we go down a lot of the priority medical calls, but we also rely on your guys that's volunteer 252 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:48,620 a firefighter and a firefighter's an ambulance to help us with calls on a daily basis. 253 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:56,660 But I think our contract is correct. I can tell you within confidence what our average response 254 00:17:56,660 --> 00:18:02,020 time is what I can tell you is from a 911 call to the time it's actually dispatched 255 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:07,560 is about five nights. And we're on base which are the on base with what they are. So 256 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,380 in ten minutes of the night when I'm called going out or as fast as much 257 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:14,520 or can transmit the information, but never very far, never 258 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,820 definitely very far away from town, but they're in town. 259 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,040 I mean, it could be a minute or two. 260 00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:25,660 Any questions? 261 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,160 At a question, I'm not trying to put you on the spot here. 262 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,260 We are going to be looking at the way to the scene potentially 263 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:44,500 purchasing some of the speed measuring signages as it's curious if you had any thoughts on that. 264 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:51,080 And if so, or if the department does, or if we should be engaging now on this placement and things 265 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:56,480 of that nature, yep, I do. I talked to Steve quite a bit on this, what we tried to do is find 266 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:02,440 grant funding initially from the state. We're investing in a new street trailer that's the one 267 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,960 you've seen in town that we move around, what if broke, 268 00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:07,880 it didn't really keep in hand, let it explore us. 269 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:09,740 So we have a high-oest panel sign now 270 00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:12,860 that tells people's speeds, but it tells them 271 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:15,060 what they are, but it doesn't give us any analytics 272 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:17,560 and you'll be back, which is what we're looking for. 273 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,640 So if we may ask me to place it somewhere 274 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,460 or Steve does, we can actually get feedback on it. 275 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,880 Okay, people are speeding up, this is a problem, 276 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:25,440 or this is not a problem. 277 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,200 We are getting on, we will use it here 278 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,960 when it's requested in town. 279 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,080 But what I've seen in every contract town, and I will say including Valley Springs, although 280 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,860 I think it's homemade, there is some version of a speed trailer. 281 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,580 It's somewhere in town where they're having problems that's on wheels that they can move or 282 00:19:43,580 --> 00:19:47,320 fix to a school zone sign already that's already in place. 283 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,460 These signs can get on the internet. 284 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,340 They're removable. 285 00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:53,620 Your streets to part will be able to take it down and put it on a new pole. 286 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:54,580 It's also powered. 287 00:19:55,220 --> 00:19:59,580 I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but I think first what I would look for isn't 288 00:19:59,580 --> 00:19:59,960 all this. 289 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:08,120 The solution so that it can be put different places on request they know. Brandon has one and it just travels around from one request to the next. 290 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:29,520 We also keep track of everywhere it's requested. So when we're not in a request, we put it somewhere where it has been requested where we've seen a problem. Just to keep it moving. So we're excited to get our new one, but I do think it's worth this long-home investment relative to your budget problem for these types of signs. 291 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:38,960 I don't think you're getting any running analytics at this time because whatever data you get from it is within your data and the best you could do is kind of tell us what it is. 292 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:43,880 But if that's what you wish to do, then we look at it and take it seriously. 293 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,900 It's a huge preventive measure. 294 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,120 It works. 295 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:48,800 I can tell you four factors. 296 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:55,760 works I had. We had a 20 mile an hour assignment and Garrett said that didn't tell you what 297 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,080 the speed of the bus unless you're going over 20. So if you went over 20, it would turn 298 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,200 on and it would say slow down the speed of the 20. And I got a complaint from the resident 299 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,980 that it wasn't working. Excellent. No, there's no one's going over 20. And that was the case. 300 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:16,160 So it was working because I had to go test it with my truck. But it was working. And so these things 301 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:23,340 to work, whether it's, I think it's capturing me, or really is, some of them also have 302 00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:26,220 the opportunity to have the license plate for years on, and that's not something 303 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:31,740 that we're, and that's the year I know, and for anybody, and that's what I'm going to do. 304 00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:36,400 So you can actually stop, or see who's doing the trafficking for action, but we don't 305 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,420 do that here in South Dakota. 306 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:40,500 So yes, good. 307 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:41,920 as well. 308 00:21:42,380 --> 00:21:46,540 Hey, Captain Zeskin, referenced an ordinance enforcement night, I think you kind of went 309 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:53,040 over at the beginning, but I assume everybody that patrols here is familiar or they go 310 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,120 through the ordinances and then the focus becomes if you hear something from a city council 311 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:00,660 or sweep if there's areas we want emphasized. 312 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:03,240 So that's exactly right. 313 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,220 So we have your ordinance manually, we also have it uploaded into our central square 314 00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:14,220 computer system so we can write paper tickets on our own. I worked with the city years ago to try to fix 315 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:22,020 their finds schedule. We find frequently is if we're enforcing ordinances instead of state statutes 316 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:29,960 it requires that your city lawyer go to court, which you will pay an hourly rate for. It's not 317 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:35,560 in the state attorney anymore. So we do as much enforcement as we can based on state statutes. 318 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:46,700 Many of the ordinances and all the ordinances in all of our contract towns are duplicating state statutes, speed, growing the staff sign, all this stuff. 319 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,560 Historically, sometimes I've said no, we want all of our ordinances. 320 00:22:51,100 --> 00:23:01,900 Enforce and that's very short-lived, because you're talking about $150 ticket and by the time you get done paying the courts, which currently is $109 for a court trial. 321 00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:08,220 plus your attorney, it doesn't work the math, the math, the math, where one value 322 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:12,480 added with the state's, with the sheriff's notice is, you get the use of our state's 323 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:18,720 attorney, and then we go and we test the body on the city's behalf of whatever ordinance we 324 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,060 got. 325 00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:20,020 What on is this? 326 00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:27,680 We do enforce our curfew vehicles that are parked outside of the ordinance, and we 327 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:33,920 to enforce this parking on four street here quite a, but that's gone away and anything else. 328 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,880 So there's two ways that we can get alerted to these things one city that's telling us like 329 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,920 hey, there's a problem. I got a car over here. Usually the cold enforcement takes care of 330 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,640 all of that, but sometimes that works and sometimes it's a resident. So if I get, if we get a call 331 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,120 to 900, seeing some research, hey, there's this car just been outside my house for three weeks at 332 00:23:54,740 --> 00:24:00,140 Well, we'll come and take it and with an ordinance to take it 10-12. That's a mess. What 333 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:04,500 we need to do that, if that's necessarily what we need to do. So, that's the end of the way we 334 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:11,500 enforce the ordinance. What we don't do is we don't drive around town looking for vehicles to take it. 335 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,540 And we don't think that that's an appropriate use of our time, considering I call about it here. 336 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:24,100 We don't think that it's in that. To be proactive and I would probably tell you that y'all 337 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:30,420 side of it, if you go in that kind of model, or we're just looking for parking violations. 338 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,400 I personally would just sort of share however, if that's the thing that you've wanted 339 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,940 to experiment with, make it certain that you know, go through town and take everyone. 340 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:46,220 But if it is bothering, it's citizen, we take care of it right away, we always have. 341 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,500 And most of these parking issues are a matter of perspective. 342 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:55,840 I got a car parked outside my house. It has moved in three weeks. 343 00:24:56,380 --> 00:24:59,120 It's not upsetting anybody a block away. It's upsetting me. 344 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:29,560 We'll respond to that, because that's important to us. But we're not just going to drive around and take your cars, and that's the decision that I've made with the city and the prior administration, which is best not something that we would be interested in. We also don't do code enforcement, so if somebody's got to make chickens in their yard or something like that, we're not going to not go under doing that, something the city needs to do. We are primarily looking for criminal action or enforcing criminal statutes, if that makes sense. 345 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:40,160 But if you request it, if I said it's on your request, that's where most of our calls come from, not so much of the city, but citizens, and that's what we say. 346 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:48,080 Captain, I got one thing to turn my question forward, thank you. 347 00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:55,880 No, no, no, we have to imagine, Christmas technology, flocked cameras, drones should 348 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,300 double-reference in where's the county going with all this technology stuff? 349 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:04,780 Is it something we should be looking at next year or five years, 10 year plan on that stuff? 350 00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:12,200 I would say it depends on the national sentiment and what the Supreme Court eventually says about 351 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,760 flock because I know I have no doubt that's where it's going into the Supreme Court at least. 352 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:22,180 The state state law lawmakers are going to look at it. 353 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,960 Right now we do have flock members. 354 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,340 We don't have any any of our contract cities but we invest it in ink. 355 00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:34,380 The reason is because two phones has 30 and you can't use them unless you have your own 356 00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:40,600 block system and then you can integrate. These block systems have solved crimes that order 357 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:46,340 onsauble will be for. They are a game changer for us. We have a transparency portal that 358 00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:51,920 I just do the presentation about these springs, where there's no block cameras, and told them 359 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,160 all over the block camera system. It's completely transparent, it's RDF, and I do understand 360 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,960 citizens' worries about it. And if the citizens say that we don't want them anymore, 361 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,080 we won't have them all over the sheriff's office, 362 00:27:05,140 --> 00:27:07,720 started using Flock in June of 2025, 363 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,480 without permission from the County Commission, 364 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:12,920 and there's three new stories done. 365 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,140 We were as strict as possible, 366 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,060 but one thing I will tell you is we won't put any Flock 367 00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:23,500 cameras in your town without asking this body first 368 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:24,680 that wouldn't happen. 369 00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:31,400 That's a commitment that I can make for however there's so many examples 370 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,680 as I could get, but one simple one I'd like to give 371 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,840 with the bird, or something, things like that. 372 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:40,060 But we had, I'm sorry, the fenders located, 373 00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:42,420 but we had an autistic 16-year-old 374 00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:43,880 that had his driver's license. 375 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,860 He had some issues that his dad followed 376 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:50,380 for him, so he got on the dash to the end when he got his license. 377 00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:53,920 There was a road ready to sit in on six-mile road, 378 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,480 or this young man was cut off. 379 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:59,420 It was in the dash, he made it to your retruck 380 00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:00,760 with the top or the top. 381 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,440 for maybe a minute sort of like which you can really read it. 382 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,460 And again, it gets out, and he walks up to me, 383 00:28:05,660 --> 00:28:07,080 and I can't even punch it inside of the head, 384 00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:09,040 and he goes back to his cart and drives off. 385 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:09,820 No witnesses. 386 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:14,120 So this is a almost-in-solved book. 387 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:16,860 Like if there's no solving ability factors, 388 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:18,220 we're not going to solve it. 389 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,520 But with the infected, we're able to do 390 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,420 what's the type in retruck with rent hopper, 391 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:25,060 saw that he had a trip to shields, 392 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,380 which has their own flock here, and was along with blows. 393 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:33,220 was able to identify that license plate, was able to identify that person based on the 394 00:28:33,220 --> 00:28:37,840 BFO, and we were able to make a rest of a man in Minnesota who was called to the 16 year old. 395 00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:48,170 The question that we often ask is, it's a hard question, but if you're over trying to 396 00:28:48,170 --> 00:28:53,290 statistically, you've been a victim of a crime, hit run, here, cars and vandalized, 397 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:56,710 your house has been vandalized, something has happened to you, and the sheriff's office 398 00:28:56,710 --> 00:29:01,150 are in place at the moment they can't figure it out, eight percent of the national average 399 00:29:01,150 --> 00:29:03,390 of them, so I'll give you this. 400 00:29:03,390 --> 00:29:09,690 We're better than that, but that's the national average, so with flock, we're actually 401 00:29:09,690 --> 00:29:16,310 solving these seemingly unsoldable crimes, whether it's petty crime or whether it's a big 402 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:16,810 crime. 403 00:29:17,310 --> 00:29:22,150 We have statistics to back that up, it's amazing technology for law enforcement. 404 00:29:22,150 --> 00:29:28,970 So, going back to what I was proposing, if you had asked yourself, my house got broken into, 405 00:29:29,170 --> 00:29:32,510 you know, years ago, or my car didn't realize years ago, and I never called the person, 406 00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:37,750 if we were to solve your crime, using fucked technology, would that be okay with you? 407 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:39,870 And that's a true question. 408 00:29:40,090 --> 00:29:44,610 I mean, that's literally what these cameras are doing, they're making the record of the 409 00:29:44,610 --> 00:29:49,490 path of your car and the license plate, and they're storing them for 30 days, now it's 410 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:58,230 to be seven days to look like the company literature, and we have specific parameters that 411 00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:59,970 we search for and we find that. 412 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:11,440 The other thing it does is it gives real time alerts if you have a wanted sex offender, a suicide was subject, a well-fair check person. 413 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:28,120 Anybody that's been in the national criminal database for whatever reason, whether they're endangered or whether they're committed to crimes, they come into your town, they go past their camera, they can retrieve that information for instance, about 30 seconds, and the deputy here gets another one and does not anticipate this car somewhere you went. 414 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:35,240 to me it's it's keeping with what we are asked to do which is public safety this is 415 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,760 an answer in public safety for us for our uses and so that's where I'm not with flock but 416 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,820 that's a great question when I do think that technology it also keeps our our deputy count 417 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:50,940 artificially low because we have a lot of leverage technology instead of hiring more to me 418 00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:56,200 which is extremely expensive so so if I did happen that would be the sheriff's the county 419 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,540 saying, don't wrap it, you need to put these in, or it would be the city, saying, we want 420 00:31:00,540 --> 00:31:05,520 to put them in. Either way, we already talked about mechanisms for that. We went down the 421 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:12,580 room. If the cities wanted them, they could ask us and we could figure out what the cost 422 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:16,940 of that is through the city ahead of the contract, could be already. 423 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:19,800 That's what we were 424 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,220 trying to do, same with Hartford. There's been many cities out of expressed interest. But 425 00:31:25,220 --> 00:31:29,900 Beware because there's a website out there that will show that Valley Springs, just the 426 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,940 reason I get a presentation there is because somebody will not line and deflock and put 427 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:35,700 eight cameras in Valley Springs. 428 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:40,980 These cameras aren't sure there would be no value for us to put eight cameras in Valley Springs 429 00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:42,620 and so to go on and explain that to them. 430 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,700 But I will tell you this, the state has flocked cameras on the air states and the cameras 431 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:54,640 from other vendors and most cities at this point in South Dakota, a lot of major cities 432 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:05,060 And so it's a new technology. I know there's a lot of news about it now, but those opinions, again, if the people don't want those cameras, we don't want those cameras. 433 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,820 But that's not a decision for me. 434 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,680 At this time, I do think there'll be more litigation on it. 435 00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:12,940 What sounds like money directly wants to do something. 436 00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:16,360 Chimps and laws that make sure more safe cards in place. 437 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:20,260 We have 30 days that we do audits. 438 00:32:20,260 --> 00:32:27,060 not every 30 days we have ongoing 30 days audit control. So we look at all the reasons 439 00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:33,280 people run them and why and it's updated in real time. It also has the safeguards that 440 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:39,820 will just give us alerts if we have WP's handling it. I've seen these new stories. It's the same 441 00:32:39,820 --> 00:32:46,220 as body camps. If somebody's misusing the technology, I'll be the first to fire them and 442 00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:49,200 keep them if necessary. That's not something that we tolerate. 443 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,380 Sure, something we never have. 444 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,260 I shouldn't be tolerating your perspective on our law enforcement. 445 00:33:01,420 --> 00:33:06,820 Do you have any idea how many types of deputies would have made contact with 446 00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:14,180 some of our youth in this community to just do some safety chats with them? 447 00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:14,960 I tell them. 448 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,480 Excuse me. 449 00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:17,540 Misssters? 450 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,780 Generally crossing the street, navigating our community. 451 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,120 Wherever that happens to be. 452 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,580 I don't. 453 00:33:24,820 --> 00:33:28,380 I don't know if I'm statistics on that, um, because it if it's not, there's not as 454 00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:31,100 specific code for it, um, before in our timestamp. 455 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,200 What I will tell you is that the different years are 456 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,860 in structure to give that education when they did. 457 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,260 Um, so if they see something super-uncing, they, they're making contact. 458 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:49,300 with those kids, our common kids and your models, youth, it's not always youth, we had a bad 459 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:54,980 accent, I've been a Garetson that was a 17 year old, I think you ran right in front of a moving vehicle with the 460 00:33:54,980 --> 00:34:01,840 scooter and just very sexy with this, but it's like we see examples of this quite a bit. Unfortunately, 461 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:09,420 these scooters are the newest iteration of a bicycle of any bike, whatever, it's cheap, it's fun 462 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,120 and pass the body is what we see a huge deficiency in is education at the home. 463 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:20,040 There is no way law enforcement can quote unquote solve this problem, but we try to do 464 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,420 the education. 465 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:25,820 There is an ordinance which I think Hartford is done when they're bookring on. 466 00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:30,020 I know they are because I'm going to speak with them and then Brandon has a really good 467 00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:34,160 one in place that I'm sure we see and actually coming back in on Thursday to talk more 468 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,160 about the policy ordinance. 469 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:42,020 Seconds are definitely a little bit more to be able to stop these kids and talk with them. 470 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,340 Some parents don't like it. 471 00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:48,640 They're talking to kids unfortunately, but that is our job and we do it. 472 00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:49,260 We do it and we do it well. 473 00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:51,820 And if they're done enough, we gotta stick your whole rat. 474 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,060 We've also handed out helmets in the past here in Dahlwrap. 475 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:58,280 It's, in fact, we handed out helmets for four years and a part part. 476 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,940 Oh, maybe that. 477 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,520 So, yes, we do it. I can't give it the next second. 478 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:12,080 So, I'm the chairman for a second. One thank you for donating the truck in the deputy of the library, touch a truck event last week. 479 00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:17,400 And anytime I've seen your deputies out, they're always doing a fantastic job. So, thank you. 480 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,300 The kids really did like, you know, being able to touch the truck. 481 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,400 I was going to mention we are talking about that by coordinating time. I'm going to be meeting this week on that. 482 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,760 And so just like Chad asked, if you had any input on the signage, do you like Brandon's 483 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,320 ordinances, that one would you tweak that in any way or you're like, I kind of like this 484 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,200 and this is pretty solid. 485 00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:46,260 There's a really solid, it's based on the state law and it's really easy to identify the violations. 486 00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:50,840 They are in an educational mode, they don't give tickets to these kids. 487 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:57,720 It's really warm to harder repeat offenders, but it gives them a chance to make the traffic 488 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,740 stop and stop both these kids and get touch of the event. 489 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:05,780 So is that how that's how I envision it, that you would just, it starts with conversation, 490 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,580 we have an ordinance, but it's conversation is conversation unless you see something repeated 491 00:36:10,580 --> 00:36:16,740 or you'd just, and that's when it would move to the next level if you will reach out to parents 492 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:17,360 then. 493 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,140 No, I think it depends on the situation, but I think reaching out to parents is something 494 00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:27,080 in a town like this. We love about it and every summer, but it can always call the parents. 495 00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:30,800 Perfue violation drop call violations to lack of violations. 496 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,240 Violations, because we've seen that we're running, staff sends all of your town with a scooter, 497 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:45,020 a four-wheeler. These juvenile offenses can typically be stopped or curtailed by the 498 00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:50,920 so aren't parenting that people do once law enforcement gets involved because a lot of times they don't know 499 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,500 exactly what their kids are up to but people in doubt wrap this trust this when we tell them hey 500 00:36:56,500 --> 00:37:00,860 this is what we thought of. So I'm not saying it's the first thing we jumped to but it 501 00:37:00,860 --> 00:37:04,440 really helps us a lot in our law enforcement and it's a chance for education for both. 502 00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:11,980 If my daughter's around doing me that I want to know for sure and that's kind of how we do it so it 503 00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:18,020 just depends on the violation and the gravity of the situation, but we find it extremely 504 00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:24,740 effective, just like if a neighbor calls me and said, hey, there's a move set and every day 505 00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:32,140 I have to go to close past my house, I talk to SRO, and he's most likely that's little Kent Smith. 506 00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:36,560 Kent Smith looks at this address on Sunday SRO over there, or also in a deputy over there to 507 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,800 talk to your friends and then. Nine times out of ten of that fixes the problem immediately, 508 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,960 It doesn't require a citation, and it's one of those personal things that we can do that we feel is 509 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,400 way more impactful than anything else that we could do. 510 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,260 I'll do it for the night. 511 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,580 Let's take it. 512 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,900 The reality is, most juveniles, if they get it, take it because you drive the 14-year-old, 513 00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:56,060 their parents are on the hook. 514 00:37:57,140 --> 00:37:58,880 So we kind of weigh that in a little bit. 515 00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:01,400 No, you can constantly get them in trouble. 516 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,880 They're going to get their incitations. 517 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,640 That's what we love about our talents. 518 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:19,280 And then last question, when Sheriff Nell said it came frequently, I would always ask what's the annual problem of the year, and it's been messed before. 519 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,320 And so is there a problem of the year that you've noticed or any changes? 520 00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:33,160 No, as Sheriff talk a lot about fentanyl, we're not seeing fentanyl as much due to the restrictions at the border. 521 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:59,580 So less and less is getting in, or I'm sorry, less fentanyl, methamphetamine is still probably a primary problem, and I can tell you it's still accounts for the most deaths, which I think you're part of last year, which people would think that's fentanyl, but a long time metabuse can lead to death as well, because the frequency of using it is so much higher than he'll be able to fentanyl, that's what we see nationally, there are some even worse things. 522 00:38:59,580 --> 00:39:06,620 And then, finally, like cart fat mall, some synthetic staggered circulating, but we have not seen that in our area. 523 00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:10,520 Properly coming, it's too close continues to be a major issue. 524 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,620 We see some of that aggravating, more people are smashing windows now to access cars, 525 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,520 and stuff, just checking doors and things like that. 526 00:39:20,060 --> 00:39:21,540 That continue to be on the radar. 527 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,120 But as far as drugs, it's still primarily, I would say, my thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin. 528 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,740 There's very little tracking on marijuana, 529 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,080 but marijuana in the United States 530 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,740 is supposed to take it at use. 531 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,740 And so it's hard to, it's hard to enforce laws 532 00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:41,500 that the people don't agree with. 533 00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:47,440 We see a marijuana, we still charge felony, 534 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,460 marijuana cases, but no one goes to jail 535 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:52,660 for simple possession of marijuana in the state. 536 00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:53,520 So to go to the United States, 537 00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:56,240 you get a citation and you get marijuana taken away. 538 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:59,980 But everything else, let's get more results in. 539 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,280 And the situation in the state of the Court, which we're happy to talk with. 540 00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:14,720 Math and vetting does not hide in the two phones area. Unfortunately, it did affect anybody, whether you're 541 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:20,960 well, not for anybody, or you're dirt or whether you're in the real community here, or whether you live in the city. 542 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:29,440 Unfortunately, once you start, it's almost impossible to stop and it just devastates lives very quickly. 543 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,200 So, we continue to see that as a lot of driving force for some of our trying linked to crime directly, 544 00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:43,820 theft and the property crime is almost always related to methamphetamine, or the use of hard drives, 545 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:50,200 because the people need drugs, they need money to buy the drugs, and so they commit a crime as a means to an end, 546 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,900 take to get their drugs. And that's the absolute reality of it. We see every day. Unfortunately, 547 00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:59,800 it's hard to untoward those things. So it's hard for people to understand why these people 548 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,560 are getting incarcerated all the time through drugs or the same drugs. But we literally have 549 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,500 people that in suit falls very young. That'll get arrested like three times for possession of 550 00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:15,260 nothing fun to mean. And then the fourth time they're arrested for like an assault. So I have these 551 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:20,280 three times they're out, even though they have three criminal cases, panic felony criminal cases 552 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,120 and they're out and they're committing assault. Now the judge holds on for that person 553 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:29,290 of crime. Holds on and told their trial and they will all of the felony cases into one. 554 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,920 One big case, and that's all they're prosecuted. And it's so common. I mean, three is probably 555 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,820 the one that we're, and tell you that my own offense, we don't see a lot of people standing in jail 556 00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:46,280 for control substances, and that doesn't help because it's so addictive when they're on the 557 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,220 street unfortunately, they're going to commit crimes to access these drugs. That's 558 00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:57,060 the problem you see. No, not a lot of optimism there, but I definitely see what's seen over 559 00:41:57,060 --> 00:42:02,000 those that's down. I can't give you an exact number, but we're very happy with that because 560 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:08,240 they have to be making this country over since 21 has been completely out of here. And I've talked 561 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:15,160 about it being actually navigated by law enforcement and first responders to be sub-Narkin. 562 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,620 So Narkin is an antidote to opioids. 563 00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:24,620 I, as a sergeant on the road, had three people that were dead, and I was able to carry out 564 00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:25,620 them with Narkin. 565 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,460 We don't get life-saving orders for because some of our deputies have four or five city cops 566 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:35,660 definitely have two or three or four saves under their boat with this Narkin, and that's just 567 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:37,220 the cops in this area. 568 00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:42,960 Without the use of that drug, I think that the number in order us, that's worth it much higher than 2021-22. 569 00:42:43,740 --> 00:42:49,180 So the state provides us with that for free, and we use it frequently all of the work that can be scared in our account. 570 00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,960 Do we have the NARC hand and don't wrap it here? 571 00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:54,420 It's legal to possess. 572 00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:57,220 I think you can get that at a pharmacy if you wanted to buy it. 573 00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,100 Well, what I used to do, we don't see falls. 574 00:43:00,380 --> 00:43:02,100 We have in all of our emergency caps. 575 00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:10,380 Yeah, Kevin, it's Narky, I'm for you, so I just didn't know, for example, if somebody came in and needed it, I don't know. 576 00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:11,400 I don't know. 577 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,580 I know the deputy is scary. 578 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,720 I know the first responders in town care. 579 00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:17,300 But I know Emily's hope would be on the way for free. 580 00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:20,240 And the machines have put it in the way to something we want to look at for and don't. 581 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:20,980 That's her too. 582 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,180 We definitely keep them. 583 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,440 We hope not can't too. 584 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,080 And certain spots like at the fair. 585 00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:28,280 That's what we brought them for there for the fair. 586 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,060 We weren't handing it out. 587 00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:32,820 I don't know if it's like a personal or anything, but we were. 588 00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:35,060 How did I understand my case when I 589 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:38,980 did it? 590 00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:39,860 All right, I know you have a lot to do. 591 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:41,240 Thank you very much for coming. 592 00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,720 Thank you for coming and thank you for all you do for our city. 593 00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:47,240 Okay. Have a great night. 594 00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:55,040 Moving on, public hearing and resolution of 2026-20, new malt beverage and south Dakota farm wine. 595 00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:59,280 For flood, J and J, limited liability companies. 596 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:05,800 owner or Jennifer and Jen I think are here if you have any questions for 597 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:11,800 the owner of Club J&J LLC during business as pocket ace as casino applied for retail 598 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,780 on-off, malt beverage and sales but a farm line. The location is at 4 on 9 North Highway 599 00:44:16,780 --> 00:44:22,840 77. You'll approve the resolution in 2026-2020 which allows the finance officer 600 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,620 mayor to enter in the one year operating agreement for the malt beverage license. 601 00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:29,480 There's not only that I'm all beverage, so 602 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,240 this point I'll entertain a motion. 603 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,400 So, this is our second. 604 00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:39,080 Second. 605 00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:44,960 We have a motion made by Jones, seconded by Ron Sagan, is any further discussion? 606 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,280 Hearing none of those in favor of today, I'm opposed to me. 607 00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:55,800 Motion carried will be on consent agenda. 608 00:44:56,860 --> 00:44:58,380 I'll entertain a motion. 609 00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,740 So moose. 610 00:44:59,780 --> 00:44:59,980 Desire. 611 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,140 May 2nd, second, a motion by tabi jellie, second invite jones for the consent agenda, all those in favor, I'm sorry, any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. 612 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:19,000 By aye, by aye, vote's nay motion, caring, moving on old business, contract review for visit del rapids. 613 00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:28,800 Mayor, I'll kick the song up. Excuse me. Descerace here, I'm sure she's going to have something to say that I'll just kick the soft on. 614 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:35,200 And in the August 3rd Council meeting, Council approved a working relationship with Desiree 615 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:35,460 and Desiree. 616 00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:40,560 As staff was directed to bring back a proposed contract for you, which is attached 617 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,500 from your packet, the reason I brought it back in the next meeting is we had talked about 618 00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:50,020 four months at $2,000 a month, and there's only four months left in the year, so we're trying 619 00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:51,460 to get it. 620 00:45:51,460 --> 00:45:53,700 I share a budget and get going. 621 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,380 I put the contract together with Health from City Attorney Hammer, 622 00:46:00,740 --> 00:46:03,300 and with Desiree Desiree and I had lots of discussions 623 00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:05,360 and I had a few as well. 624 00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:13,550 There have been a couple of discussion topics 625 00:46:13,930 --> 00:46:15,990 that Council is going to have to deliberate 626 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:21,070 that we're the primary one is that this contract 627 00:46:21,070 --> 00:46:29,590 under Article 6 asks that Desiree make her service available to all residents, citizens, 628 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:36,910 because it's probably money. My opinion it's hard to argue that it should just be 629 00:46:36,910 --> 00:46:43,470 used for a select fee. Desiree did make comments in the last meeting, and she has got a business 630 00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:48,410 to run and it has some concerns about that and all that are spoofed more over to that. 631 00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:52,950 But that's about it. 632 00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:55,930 So other than that, I think we're pretty good agreement on the kind of track. 633 00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:58,210 You'll notice there's no requirement in there. 634 00:46:58,370 --> 00:47:02,130 Any more for Desire to become a 501C3 because we're contracting with our business. 635 00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:04,550 So there's no need for that. 636 00:47:05,050 --> 00:47:08,950 Desire and I worked out what some good measure metrics would be. 637 00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:11,610 I can't make her come up with metrics that dumb exists. 638 00:47:11,610 --> 00:47:15,410 And so she made some suggestions we're seeing good to me. 639 00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:21,570 So really what remains is just the scope of who should provide these services to. 640 00:47:22,090 --> 00:47:23,450 So it does right. 641 00:47:24,250 --> 00:47:26,910 And we think to that and you can ask questions. 642 00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:27,510 Yep. 643 00:47:28,110 --> 00:47:33,250 So it does react more and visit Dell Rapids and first of all, just thank you for giving 644 00:47:33,250 --> 00:47:38,790 the opportunity to be up here and to be having this conversation and like Steve spoke 645 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:45,690 about, well first, I've provided the, you should have your scope of work and what will be measuring 646 00:47:45,690 --> 00:47:49,510 I've provided those documents to Steve so hopefully those are in your packet. 647 00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:57,690 And then I also wanted to talk about, I put in there for sales tax to be watched and I am, 648 00:47:57,690 --> 00:48:03,950 I'm going to do that, but I just wanted to note that I know we're going to see a dip in our sales 649 00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:10,310 tax because pins isn't operational and fall time is when they would have been kicking it 650 00:48:10,310 --> 00:48:10,870 in gear. 651 00:48:11,250 --> 00:48:16,270 And so I think a better measurement for this success of this is obviously the measurements 652 00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:20,610 where, you know, we're knowing how many email subscribers, what are open rates are, what 653 00:48:20,610 --> 00:48:25,250 are click through rates are, but really just the general feedback from the businesses that are 654 00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:29,930 on the website and the morale and feedback from the residents have already received messages 655 00:48:29,930 --> 00:48:35,170 from people that are excited that there's something kind of in one email where they can click on 656 00:48:35,170 --> 00:48:40,010 things and go immediately to RSVP or to sign up for the class or things like that. 657 00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:44,910 So, and then the two things, there are two things in the contract that I just wanted to clear 658 00:48:44,910 --> 00:48:52,970 up and just how to handle some things. And so article four is the payment and it speaks about 659 00:48:52,970 --> 00:48:59,590 about paying after the fact and me sending an invoice which I can produce an invoice. 660 00:49:00,510 --> 00:49:06,150 But as far as the money is going to be used to fund the advertising. 661 00:49:06,810 --> 00:49:10,950 And so I can't necessarily fund that money and then get repaid. 662 00:49:11,590 --> 00:49:16,810 And so I'm wondering maybe if we could just if we could leave the verbiage the way that it is and maybe the first 663 00:49:16,810 --> 00:49:31,830 In voice that I send is like our baseline, I mean that could be the performance report that I give you of where we're at, you know, currently before we start actually running the advertising with the city, so I don't know necessarily how we handled that, but that was one of the things that I was concerned about. 664 00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:41,530 And then how Steve mentioned about the business participation, every business can participate, but I'm not going to automatically add businesses onto the website. 665 00:49:42,190 --> 00:49:47,890 they just have to want to participate, I'm not gonna force anyone to do that, and, you know, 666 00:49:47,950 --> 00:49:52,770 since we are funding for just the four months and we don't necessarily know where we're going 667 00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:59,830 from here, you know, before, you know, the meetings before it was a membership, they website just 668 00:49:59,830 --> 00:49:59,970 as 669 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:20,200 The Chamber is as well. And so I won't just take the time to put everybody's thing on there. So if they want, you know, we've had a couple of people join recently and if you want to join great, fantastic, but if they don't, that is their proactively. So just to maybe re-word that a little bit, because I'm not just going to put everybody on there. 670 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:35,210 And yeah, so once we get those two things kind of worked out or if there's any other questions or concerns or or things like that, I'm just looking forward to getting started. I've already seen positive like I said feedback and the businesses that are on the website currently are excited to get started and. 671 00:50:39,550 --> 00:50:41,090 Does it really look first? 672 00:50:42,430 --> 00:50:44,270 I basically I guess what you said. 673 00:50:44,450 --> 00:50:52,310 A whole hard way that the start up fronting the costs and the delay between you getting bills 674 00:50:52,310 --> 00:50:56,290 spending the money getting reimbursed, it could be a burden. 675 00:50:56,690 --> 00:51:05,430 I also agree with the businesses perhaps need to have not a buy-in, but they need to express 676 00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:05,990 an interest. 677 00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:08,890 So I think at one time I did a search of Del Rathlete's businesses, 678 00:51:10,030 --> 00:51:13,630 correctly, for a month, I think it came up with 152, 200 businesses in Del Rathlete, 679 00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:18,050 and I look at it in a no way, but it counts every home business. 680 00:51:18,350 --> 00:51:22,910 So a lot of them may not want to be on there, and we perhaps should not just put them on 681 00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:28,510 as a blanket, so we'll have to have some way of polling the businesses to find out. 682 00:51:28,930 --> 00:51:35,770 And I believe May I receive whatever list perhaps a registered businesses in the city 683 00:51:35,770 --> 00:51:43,030 limits that they have to ask. I don't know how that would play out but when I just don't 684 00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:48,070 want it to be I'm all about fairness and integrity and so there's people that have paid 685 00:51:48,070 --> 00:51:53,530 to be on the website and so to put I'm kind of struggling with that because because if you 686 00:51:53,530 --> 00:51:59,350 guys decide you know hey we're not going to fund it anymore then what happens to those 687 00:51:59,350 --> 00:52:04,870 businesses that we put on there for, you know, no cost or what not. So. 688 00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:09,170 Well, as you see that, I'm a lot of websites and it's different levels of sponsorship 689 00:52:09,170 --> 00:52:13,550 on participation. Sure. You know, your goal members and your platform members or whatever. 690 00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:18,610 So I think there's a way of maybe highlighting the paid versus the non paid. 691 00:52:18,990 --> 00:52:22,670 I don't. Yeah. I mean, we could figure something out. 692 00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:27,290 And with that too, though, doesn't it? You started this without, you know, original. 693 00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:34,690 Port of what's backing from the city right this was your idea and you ran with it again enthusiasm 694 00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:43,990 I love it, but then you reached out and had businesses pay the membership fee so that we came up with a possible alternative 695 00:52:44,610 --> 00:52:56,410 This contract and now we're saying hey, we're going to do this and use the city name and city funding we want to open to anybody that wants it like 696 00:52:56,410 --> 00:53:05,930 Like Brian said, you know, I sell Norwex or something and I don't but yeah, I don't I don't want to be on it, right, you know, but 697 00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:08,450 I don't think we should 698 00:53:08,450 --> 00:53:10,930 Limit and say no you have to pay because 699 00:53:10,930 --> 00:53:17,470 Fair because we should never use the word fair to be equal first of all. Okay. Oh, yeah, but 700 00:53:17,470 --> 00:53:20,790 a membership platform or something but 701 00:53:21,370 --> 00:53:24,550 I guess I just I just I just don't know if I'm still 702 00:53:24,550 --> 00:53:29,430 100% back behind this yet, I'm being fully transparent with you. 703 00:53:33,930 --> 00:53:38,910 I guess where I'm struggling a little bit because I like the idea that I know we need to promote. 704 00:53:40,370 --> 00:53:44,130 It's the membership piece or maybe the different levels. 705 00:53:44,350 --> 00:53:45,670 I think you brought up gold and platinum. 706 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:52,750 If we, if we're now putting in city tax dollars, then I think it's just, 707 00:53:53,470 --> 00:54:03,970 Are you still thinking that you're going to have a model on there of additional membership fees from certain businesses and they're going to get more promotion than another business? 708 00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:05,170 I guess that's my question. 709 00:54:06,050 --> 00:54:09,930 Well, I have right now, there's just two levels. 710 00:54:09,930 --> 00:54:10,910 There's not two levels. 711 00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:15,130 There's just a nonprofit level and there's a for-profit business. 712 00:54:15,130 --> 00:54:19,130 and each person has the opportunity to send me their events 713 00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:24,710 and they're on the directory page and on the Quiz Results page. 714 00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:31,010 And so there's that equal, regardless of if you're a nonprofit or a for-profit business, 715 00:54:31,090 --> 00:54:32,830 you still have the opportunity to do that. 716 00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:38,130 I will say, I understand the apprehension. 717 00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:49,010 But and and I don't like going back to the chamber all the time because but it's been a conversation where I've just been kind of we're like, okay, which one what are you going here. 718 00:54:49,450 --> 00:54:59,190 But it's it's kind of along the same lines of you funding the chamber in the past to pay for different things and they have a membership to where everybody is not on that website. 719 00:54:59,330 --> 00:54:59,970 I mean, I'm not a. 720 00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:29,980 And just like the giving money for quarry days, that's not going to benefit every business. Every business doesn't get a change. I mean, we can pay dispenser, but every business isn't automatically put in the packet to be promoted. And so going back to equal, you know, it's the same thing, you know, to where, yes, I charge a membership be so do they, but there still have been city taxpayer dollars that have been used to help them. 721 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:39,520 But also with the chamber, and again, this is not personal, you know, you know, I've had great conversations. 722 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:46,180 Chamber is established, and yes, I've stuck my neck out for them in the past, and I question somethings too. 723 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:53,140 But right now we're dealing with something new, and yes, I know, new isn't always bad. I'm well aware of that. 724 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,880 But this is a lot of money, and yes, the city wants to promote and encourage business. 725 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,160 to happen in the office, yes, of course, more people to come to our town and come to our businesses, 726 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:15,120 but at the same aspect as business owners, the city is not responsible to quote and quote, 727 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:21,860 lack of better terms veiled them out on marketing either. Sure, if marketing isn't working for them, 728 00:56:22,060 --> 00:56:28,680 it is business responsibility, okay, this is what we're carrying you to do something else. So that's 729 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:36,920 I feel like I don't know if that should be the city funding all that if that makes sense. 730 00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:37,760 No, that makes sense. 731 00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:41,920 And I think where I think the issue is and this is what I had the problem I was trying 732 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,700 to solve is having a collective funnel, right? 733 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,000 So if Norris is posting something, I'm posting something that locals posting something. 734 00:56:50,180 --> 00:56:52,400 It's just hard to know everything that's going on. 735 00:56:52,420 --> 00:56:56,520 And so I wanted one umbrella, one funnel and granted it's not necessarily the city's 736 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,240 but that's how we get our sales tax money is from businesses. 737 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,360 And so I think that it is part of the city's responsibility to help out in a little bit. 738 00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:09,420 I mean, yes, $8,000 to some people is a lot of money, 739 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,680 but there have been bigger amounts given away for less of results. 740 00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:18,420 And so I just look at it that way. 741 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,380 I mean, what is the other plan? 742 00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:28,480 You know, does anyone else have a plan to help kind of bring in some more sales tax, especially because we're getting ready to take a hit here? 743 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,580 Because pins is, you know, obviously like I said before, it pins is not operational. 744 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:44,400 And Desiree, it's, it's pretty far from wrong, but I think it wasn't the original concept of visit to our app is also to promote city functions like come to our part. 745 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:52,360 That's what I was going to say, a traditional convention in Visitor's Bureau is going to highlight all of the city's assets. 746 00:57:52,880 --> 00:58:00,540 It's not necessarily here are the businesses that there are other entities that that is the focus. 747 00:58:00,980 --> 00:58:05,320 Again, I'm having hard time understanding this bleeding between everything. 748 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,260 And in a small tone, it should probably either be all. 749 00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:11,900 You're doing all those under one umbrella. 750 00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:22,700 Bigger cities divide them out and have that focus. Again, a traditional visitor is going to be like, 751 00:58:22,700 --> 00:58:27,540 here's what's going on. Go to Sioux Falls. That's right. For example, if you're coming in the town, 752 00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:33,760 yeah, there's links to available places to stay, things like that. There's calendar events, things of that nature. 753 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:43,960 Sure. It's more just highlighting what to do as more so. And have the kinds of, like thus the name, this don't wrap it. 754 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,940 Right. And I do have those on there. So I do have the pool. I have the park. I have the suit trail. I have. 755 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:57,000 You know, we can get the riverside, the pavilion, all the things the campground is on there. 756 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:21,100 So there are those other facets as well, but the main thing is I just I want people to come to their app is and obviously because I'm a business owner and I'm support the businesses and they can go to the park too, but the park doesn't make us any money if somebody just goes to sits on the bench, you know, and a lot of our conversations have been about money and cutting funding and cutting this and cutting that why do we have to cut why don't we just make more money. 757 00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:34,900 I guess I will order it harder to disagree. I think part of the organic life of our city is that people would want to come up here on visit and they would potentially stop and get gas and find something. 758 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:42,560 we have the public, I think highlighting things like that, people would want to come and do that, 759 00:59:42,620 --> 00:59:46,020 highlighting that you can go off, highlighting that we could have baseball tournaments. 760 00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:46,540 Sure. 761 00:59:47,780 --> 00:59:51,540 That does provide a boost to any injection into our economy. 762 00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:53,800 So I don't think that should be minimized. 763 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,280 I think those are important things. 764 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,320 So the visiting for recreation, I think is... 765 00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,960 Well, no, I'm not... 766 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:29,060 So, obviously, there will be that domino to where if they do come into town for the park, I'm not saying that the park is useless, but I'm saying if we have it to where we are gathering the premise, because I don't know if you've listened to the other meetings, but things that I've said, but getting people on email is so I can promote the baseball tournament, or in different things, because people, for the most part, don't have time to scroll, or post don't last, or on social media. 767 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,520 for depending heavily on social media 768 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,160 and not necessarily being in boxes 769 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,320 or in cell phones and things of that nature. 770 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,400 One of the things that a note of, I don't know, 771 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,440 not caution, but the metrics that we're gonna measure 772 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,280 will ultimately shape what she does. 773 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,260 It's just human instincts that she's gonna be measured 774 01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,540 and determines she's successful based on sales tax. 775 01:00:58,540 --> 01:01:03,900 sales tax comes from businesses, so she's going to want to promote businesses to make the numbers look good. 776 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,540 So we got the curve on the metrics that we're presenting as well and how we're going to measure this 777 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,420 to this whole effort. 778 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:17,220 The other thing that I have it throughout, and I promise I'll be quite in the issue. 779 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,320 As Steve mentioned, we've got four months left. 780 01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:26,320 I think the airplanes are going to start doing a few old days to land this airplane eventually. 781 01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:30,320 That said, I'll entertain emotions. 782 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:52,300 I'll make a motion to prove the confessional service agreement that was presented to us as written. 783 01:01:54,130 --> 01:01:56,950 We have a motion to present. 784 01:01:57,710 --> 01:01:58,730 I'm sorry, it's fine. 785 01:01:58,850 --> 01:02:01,730 I'm going to set two, except we're going to reconsider. 786 01:02:01,950 --> 01:02:04,050 Now, the contract reveal with visit dealt with. 787 01:02:04,130 --> 01:02:04,890 It's there, second. 788 01:02:13,350 --> 01:02:14,090 Hearing nine. 789 01:02:17,410 --> 01:02:23,350 I'm just going to say I think I don't think the idea is dead. I think it just needs 790 01:02:23,350 --> 01:02:28,750 some more time to fully bake it and continue working on this. In my opinion, that's 791 01:02:28,750 --> 01:02:35,430 where I'm at. I think this needs to be like a negative like I think. No, I don't think it 792 01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:40,830 has a negative. Personally, I'm very, I'm a small business owner. I get it. I'm a supportive 793 01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:45,950 of this. How we do this though is important. I think you're right. We have probably gotten some 794 01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:52,190 of it wrong in the past. So how we do this better in the future is important. Yeah, for sure. 795 01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:59,290 I agreed. You know and I said this when I first came up here that I'll keep it moving and you know 796 01:02:59,290 --> 01:03:04,010 I know that it's a great idea and even if you don't necessarily think this that's all right. 797 01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:09,490 My validation doesn't come from the city council. So I will come back and you guys will see it 798 01:03:09,490 --> 01:03:14,030 and see how great it is and you know that's that'll be that. Thank you very much. Thank you. 799 01:03:15,470 --> 01:03:20,090 Moving on, all business reconciner in the 2027 budget request of oops. 800 01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:26,810 You're on our, I'll take this off before before John is going to come up to speak before he does. 801 01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:36,530 This is a we have to go through a process to re-open a decision made by the governing body. 802 01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:45,650 And what happens is you have to, let's see here, let me look at my notes, there is a motion, 803 01:03:46,270 --> 01:03:48,070 a process of reconsidering a motion. 804 01:03:48,670 --> 01:03:56,330 So what has to happen is whoever was in favor, voted in favor of the prevailing side, 805 01:03:56,330 --> 01:04:01,850 last time, and specifically that's the end of Wendy Chuck and Dingy Thomas like was here, 806 01:04:02,570 --> 01:04:05,290 has to say, I would like to, we're going to correct you from the 807 01:04:05,290 --> 01:04:11,210 lawyer statement, you have to say, like to, I'm reconsidered the motion, and if that 808 01:04:11,210 --> 01:04:17,230 motion is pretty, then you can, John, get speaking, you can consider if you want to 809 01:04:17,230 --> 01:04:19,830 give anything to loops in 2020 or something, but 810 01:04:23,290 --> 01:04:25,610 I'll make the motion to reconsider. 811 01:04:26,910 --> 01:04:28,650 Is that a thing for loops? 812 01:04:30,550 --> 01:04:31,110 Yeah, I'm sure. 813 01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:37,240 I'll second time. 814 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:45,760 We have a motion on the table from Jones section by Cavageli to reconsider the 2027 budget request for loops. 815 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:52,400 Any further discussion? 816 01:04:53,300 --> 01:04:56,280 All in favour? All in favour? I'm sorry. 817 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:58,720 Bye. Bye. 818 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,080 Please manage, use the position, yes. 819 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,140 Alright. Motion carried to reconsider. 820 01:05:08,180 --> 01:05:12,520 Alright, my, I'm sorry if we, I felt, felt, felt soy all the hope, right. 821 01:05:13,420 --> 01:05:13,440 Okay. 822 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,880 Anyway there was some delays there sometimes, why I make sure. 823 01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:17,120 Sorry. 824 01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:25,880 At this point, sure. 825 01:05:27,140 --> 01:05:29,600 At this point, yes. Please come to Sit on. 826 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:32,400 I'm sorry. 827 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,720 I, I had brought a few slides, just to help kind of guide my conversation tonight. 828 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,000 Jump moment 7 for team, these 7 street on behalf of all the opera players. 829 01:05:41,780 --> 01:05:45,660 And I appreciate the opportunity to be able to talk to you a little bit tonight, answer some questions as you reconsider. 830 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,240 Our second request of 2027. 831 01:05:48,660 --> 01:05:52,620 If it doesn't come up I can talk through it, but that's a really good photo, so that's all good. 832 01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:06,320 It's in my hand at daily Google Sides for all the presentations. 833 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,340 That's okay. 834 01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:22,720 That's okay. 835 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:23,220 That's okay. 836 01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:27,360 That's right, so basically what I want to do is just talk about just my three things. 837 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,880 One is just a scope of what we're looking to do in 2027. 838 01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:38,300 We have a year, eight months of programming that we're planning on doing in 2027. 839 01:06:39,340 --> 01:06:43,300 The idea or the goal is to hopefully do something yet within adult performance, 840 01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:45,440 a community performance here, yet this winter. 841 01:06:46,140 --> 01:06:49,260 And there are some hurdles to that happening that I'll get to a later. 842 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,680 But if it doesn't happen this winter, we're looking at January, February, 843 01:06:52,680 --> 01:07:00,020 putting on a show for the involves adult community members. Introducing our programming in January 844 01:07:00,020 --> 01:07:05,160 for the summer. Opening up registration for our youth programming in the summer and 845 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:09,640 excuse me in January, we felt like we missed out in some participants because we were a little bit 846 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:17,460 behind in opening that for this last year. April May, excuse me, May and June would be 847 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,580 another summer youth musical, looking to do it in coordination with 848 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:30,740 Corridis Weekend again. In July, looking to do a pair of week day camps for youth 849 01:07:30,740 --> 01:07:36,360 and grades one through four, and then in August, looking to do a community 850 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:41,200 musical, so something for people of all ages, bringing kind of looking more like 851 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,780 what old opera's players did in the past. So all told, in terms of week's 852 01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:50,780 programming and I'll focus mainly just on you because that's where the funding request comes in. 853 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,920 We're looking at approximately eight to nine weeks of programming for kids next summer. 854 01:07:58,740 --> 01:08:00,860 I wish I could show you the budget numbers. That's okay. 855 01:08:02,420 --> 01:08:07,020 The budget that we have proposed for 2027 as an organization is around $35,000. 856 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,640 And that includes royalty fees. 857 01:08:11,140 --> 01:08:15,000 The play that we did this last summer was about $2,000 and adult play, you can double 858 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:15,340 that. 859 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:24,660 If we do three, that's why I'm coming up for $70,000, that includes rental of space, which 860 01:08:24,660 --> 01:08:30,480 I'll get to in a second, includes rental of microphones and lights, it includes sets and 861 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:32,300 props, and all the things go along with play. 862 01:08:32,780 --> 01:08:38,940 I won't shy away from the fact that part of our funding is to pay the people to do the youth 863 01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:39,360 programming. 864 01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:46,560 You know, when we look at Etonine Weeks, people working with kids for several hours a day, 865 01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:50,160 it's a lot of orders and we feel that as an organization, that's something that we want to support. 866 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,800 And so that is a part of our budget request. 867 01:08:54,220 --> 01:08:58,580 Some of the furgles that we're looking at, honestly, is a place to perform. 868 01:08:59,820 --> 01:09:04,320 It's unclear, we're unclear what availability is there's going to be at the Old Outer House. 869 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,080 Above El Mascale, we're not sure if that's available to us yet. 870 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,640 or what that will cost. 871 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,120 This last year we did not have to pay anything 872 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,760 for microphones, for lights, or for a space to perform. 873 01:09:15,140 --> 01:09:17,380 That will change in 2027. 874 01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:23,420 The school is adopting a different ruler. 875 01:09:23,620 --> 01:09:24,620 What do we want to call it? 876 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,660 Require us to tap A to use the space. 877 01:09:27,980 --> 01:09:28,520 That's just a change. 878 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,980 And that will be a sizable amount of money. 879 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:33,820 With those of you who cost, 880 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,180 that we did not necessarily have to incur 881 01:09:35,180 --> 01:09:37,020 the last year that we will in 2027. 882 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:42,380 I've looked at what it would cost even to rent a tent to go down into the park like we used 883 01:09:42,380 --> 01:09:48,280 to do it back in the day and even that is around with lights and sound and the tent and 884 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,220 the staging and the walls of the tent to have a cool stuff. 885 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:56,800 You're looking at around $79,000 for something like that, for one play, for one week. 886 01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,900 I wish the I don't have my numbers. 887 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:18,600 The big thing though is just the three things that I mentioned before, when we spoke. One really proud of what the kids did this last year. You know, for six weeks for six weeks, we met with the kids and they did an awesome job after they're there after they're there. 888 01:10:18,740 --> 01:10:25,460 I'm practicing for that time. The show that they put on that and I know the mayor was there. I don't know if anybody else was there. 889 01:10:25,460 --> 01:10:29,420 But this is coming from someone I've worked with kids and we just can theater for 30 years, right? 890 01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:30,900 It's my bread and butter, it's what I do. 891 01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:36,660 And I will say I'll put that play in that performance up anything that I've been a part of in those 30 years. 892 01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:37,860 They really did a great job. 893 01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:40,680 I know you had a chance to hear from some of them a couple weeks ago, 894 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,480 and I'm so glad that they were able to share some of their experience with you. 895 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,200 We are really proud of what we did. 896 01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:50,580 Two, we are really proud, we're thankful for the support that the community gave us, 897 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,260 whether that was through business sponsorships or through the city 898 01:10:55,160 --> 01:11:01,280 that we cannot say thank you enough for all of that. And lastly, we are, you know, we are thankful 899 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,340 for any and all support that we get from from the city and other sponsors should move forward. 900 01:11:06,020 --> 01:11:11,800 We want this to be something that continues to grow. I've been asked, you know, is you know, is the old 901 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,220 doctor, hospital, is eventually you're going to get to the point where, you know, you want to have to come to the city 902 01:11:15,220 --> 01:11:19,840 to ask for funding. That the answer to that is yes, and I think we're on our way there. 903 01:11:20,340 --> 01:11:32,160 But I also think that I'm pretty confident just in the conversations that I've had with some of my council members that even when we do get there that the city will look for ways to support community theater. 904 01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:44,520 However, that may look whether that is helping us find a place to form, helping us solve some of the different hospitals that are going to be that we may have in terms of fundraising. 905 01:11:45,420 --> 01:11:50,520 have some big ideas on some things, but we hope that even when we are able to cover our 906 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,740 operational costs, then again, I think we're on our way there, we're well on our way there, 907 01:11:55,480 --> 01:12:00,460 that the city will still be a partner with us, because we want this to be a true community 908 01:12:00,460 --> 01:12:08,980 project, a community opportunity for summer enrichment program for kids, that has the support 909 01:12:08,980 --> 01:12:17,440 of the city. I had a great last picture. You're just going to have to imagine it, but it was a good one of the kids in the parade with the questions underneath. 910 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,680 Are there any questions for me at all? I'm happy to answer the best my ability. 911 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,940 How many youth participate John? 912 01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:26,840 But this last year we had a wrong 40. 913 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:37,380 I anticipate that never to grow. For a first time out, you know, if I judge it's the way I would as a teacher, you know, first time you do something, you're going to have 914 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,480 You're not going to get everybody out that you made, that you may be all down the road. 915 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,320 And so for the first year, I was really happy with 40. 916 01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:47,500 I know that we heard from a number of kids that said, hey, we did no enough time, 917 01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:50,040 or we had already signed up to basketball camp, or we're doing this or that. 918 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,360 And that's why we're opening up registration as early as we can in January. 919 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,540 And then with the addition of those two, the two weeks in July, 920 01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:01,480 we're going to capture some kids that wanted to prepare to participate this year, 921 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,800 but because of our aid restrictions, they were not able to. 922 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:11,180 So I would, I would optimistically say that at least doubles for next summer, what are they just again? 923 01:13:11,740 --> 01:13:17,380 So this last year we did grades four through eight, and then next summer looking at grades one through eight. 924 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,160 And one shaker and other to be a person. 925 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,240 And I heard you write, you don't have a place to perform? Not a lot. 926 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,620 And then, no. 927 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:32,740 Ideally, I mean, realistically it's probably going to be back at the school, just with the new rules that they have in place. 928 01:13:32,740 --> 01:13:36,340 It's going to cost us a per day or a per hour that's going to run. 929 01:13:37,180 --> 01:13:41,020 I think I had around $2,500 to $3,000 dollars. 930 01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:44,040 If we were there for one week, no, we were there for two weeks. 931 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,360 We did most of our workers left and we turned shirts in the basement. 932 01:13:47,420 --> 01:13:51,420 And whether this body decides or doesn't decide to provide funding. 933 01:13:53,180 --> 01:13:58,600 You make up the difference of the 35 or 70,000 through sponsorships and fundraising. 934 01:13:59,180 --> 01:14:01,860 We are, who's going to take place next summer? 935 01:14:01,860 --> 01:14:28,080 Well, well, the scope of boobs will depend on what we have to be able to talk to a forward, but yes, we received roughly about, I don't have the numbers in front of it, I apologize, but we had fantastic sponsorship from businesses this last year and based on conversations with them, they are eager to be a part of this moving forward and so yes, reaching out to sponsors and also implementing some fundraising as well. 936 01:14:29,550 --> 01:14:35,690 We're trying to come to the table with money as a organization here as we get things rolling. 937 01:14:36,590 --> 01:14:42,310 With the idea that yes that we will be able to recover, you know, our operating costs here, 938 01:14:42,690 --> 01:14:42,690 shortly. 939 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,420 I know I am voted to bring this matter back because I've never really spoken to 940 01:14:51,420 --> 01:14:58,420 why I consistently vote no. And I'm you're talking to curly back in the day when I was in the 941 01:14:58,420 --> 01:14:59,960 play at the Barnett. 942 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:08,680 And I remember distinctly watching you in Oklahoma and you were fantastic and my husband and I still talk about what a wonderful night and you have a beautiful voice. 943 01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:17,300 However, last year when Upps was brought forward by the mayor, my understanding was it was for start-up class. 944 01:15:18,340 --> 01:15:26,520 And so now I have to ask myself, would I fund every organization that some body wants to put together to support the youth in our community? 945 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,980 whether that's a drunken club and esports club 946 01:15:28,980 --> 01:15:31,000 and underwater basket weaving club, 947 01:15:31,340 --> 01:15:33,400 I don't care, but if we're gonna wrap it up 948 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,620 for it's for our children, 949 01:15:35,420 --> 01:15:38,440 then are we now supposed to give $20,000. 950 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,240 And I can't in good conscience, say I would do that. 951 01:15:43,180 --> 01:15:46,020 So I just kind of go, at some point, 952 01:15:46,420 --> 01:15:47,980 I can't continue voting, 953 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,000 because I knew when the future I wouldn't continue voting 954 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:52,700 for funding. 955 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:59,980 So, I'm worried about sitting a precedent, my understanding was, and maybe I just misunderstood 956 01:15:59,980 --> 01:16:03,660 the mayor, but I thought it was for start-up cost, and then it was going to be taken 957 01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:10,500 over by fundraisers and sponsorships and grants, and I also reached out to people that 958 01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:15,360 were involved in the finance level of the city previously with Ops, and city money was 959 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:21,600 not previously used for Ops, and so I just wish you the best, and I know the kids do a 960 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:28,680 job and all of that, but I just can't commit to more funding. And that's why I wanted 961 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,120 to bring this back so people understood why I'm sure in the way I do. 962 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:36,500 So thank you, Sean, for all you do. And please continue, like you said, oops, we'll 963 01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:37,960 continue in some way. 964 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,600 Yeah, thank you. 965 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:52,840 Yeah, I'm sorry about that and I'm maybe not, but I apologize I wasn't here the last 966 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:53,060 time. 967 01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:54,240 Mode for this. 968 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:55,100 I look at it. 969 01:16:55,580 --> 01:17:01,380 Respectfully, I see things like this absolutely is called a life and quality life is economic 970 01:17:01,380 --> 01:17:01,900 development. 971 01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:04,220 It does drop people to don't rapids. 972 01:17:04,540 --> 01:17:06,780 I think of an even retention. 973 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:14,260 These are the things where a young kid could have an excellent experience and they find 974 01:17:14,260 --> 01:17:18,260 a passion and a love and community and they stay here. 975 01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:23,440 These are the things that why people not only will come to Dell Rabbids and move here, 976 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:28,800 which 100% helps us our tax-based and all these things, but it will also retain people 977 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:29,520 here. 978 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,840 I am passionate about quality of life. 979 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,600 These are the things that set us apart, unequivocally, 980 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,020 we'll always do my best. 981 01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:40,920 And we can't be home to future counsels. 982 01:17:42,020 --> 01:17:43,440 All of us will come and go. 983 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,540 You may or may not get future monies. 984 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,020 I can't base what I'm doing today. 985 01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:52,740 I want somebody else to do in the future. 986 01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:56,580 Personally, I am absolutely in support of the quality of life for 987 01:17:56,580 --> 01:17:59,840 nonprofits and even if other communities don't do it, 988 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,380 I'm for us being better in another communities. 989 01:18:04,300 --> 01:18:05,180 I'll add to that. 990 01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:06,980 I believe in what you're doing. 991 01:18:07,140 --> 01:18:08,000 I love what you're doing. 992 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:08,920 I love the messaging. 993 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:11,880 I believe in the quality of life. 994 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,380 I believe that fits in with the visit. 995 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:18,400 It's some of where you tie up this magic ribbon around all this stuff. 996 01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:22,900 I think this fantastic community is going to continue to grow and grow. 997 01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:27,580 The issue that I have is I look through your application. 998 01:18:27,580 --> 01:18:34,640 it made the awarding problem. Section 1, paragraph 3, three times it says funding is for 999 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:43,860 salaries. One time it mentions programming details to come on the summer, the camp, 1000 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:51,900 undefined. I did the math later on. You mentioned 800 touches between attendance, roughly 25 1001 01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:55,520 dollars per touch in the community, which I think is fantastic, 1002 01:18:57,820 --> 01:18:59,520 having come from and seen a lot 1003 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,540 of what I'll call grant applications. 1004 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,220 This proposal, if my opinion, would not fly to a grant application, 1005 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:16,700 because most of them will not fund data-to-operations for salary, their event, funding that they provide. 1006 01:19:18,380 --> 01:19:29,060 And I agree with Wendy's comment of the kind of worms that we opened the precedent that we set is, and my vote, no, is not on the organization. 1007 01:19:29,620 --> 01:19:32,760 I support you guys. I'll help you. 1008 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,060 To the bone, I'll help you guys do what you need to do. 1009 01:19:38,060 --> 01:19:48,440 My know is more on the structure of the request and should the city be funding this type of a 1010 01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:48,980 other request. 1011 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:53,740 So nothing personal, absolutely not, I'll tell you how to help you guys, until the cows 1012 01:19:53,740 --> 01:19:54,200 come home. 1013 01:19:54,220 --> 01:19:58,080 And if I can address them, I'll take responsibility for the application, because that 1014 01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:58,460 was me. 1015 01:19:58,660 --> 01:19:59,740 Some of this is learning harder. 1016 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,440 Learn how to fly while I build the ship. Just not having a lot of experience doing this kind of work in terms of the application process. 1017 01:20:08,140 --> 01:20:20,300 And so, there are things that I'm learning along the way. Again, I'm not going to shy away from, I'm not going to shy away from that, as an organization that we're going to be the people that are doing the work for the kit with the kits. 1018 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:27,560 We're leaning on volunteers to do a lot of things, but when we're talking about a window 1019 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:34,480 a time for me in the morning until 12 or later, and we're asking professionals to be 1020 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:35,840 in there working with the kids. 1021 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,680 I think that I think that we ought to offer some compensation, and that's just as an organization 1022 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,840 that's our philosophy. 1023 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:49,940 If that precludes us from being involved in any city funding, I guess I can, I'll have to 1024 01:20:49,940 --> 01:20:56,100 to be fair. I don't think we ever put any requirements on there that equate this to a grant. 1025 01:20:56,620 --> 01:21:00,860 So I don't I think that's a little bit of a false equivalent person. 1026 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,040 I'm also thinking 1027 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:09,380 like big picture of like we're considering and wanting to grow what we do is invest. 1028 01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:14,300 I think what our job is to invest city dollars back into our city. Is that correct? Well, streets 1029 01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:18,900 are super important. I think everybody can agree with that. I don't think we ignore our streets 1030 01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:26,540 infrastructure. What our city is not just streets and pipes. It's people, right? If we can't 1031 01:21:26,540 --> 01:21:31,440 invest back into people who are giving it to our community, I think we're just missing the 1032 01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:37,240 bulk. That's my take. Again, now I also see an opportunity, Matt's going to come with a summer program 1033 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:43,280 and I think I'm not trying to step on his toes, but maybe there's an opportunity where it's like 1034 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:50,240 a week of play, you know, things like that. I see a synergy there where we could be our 1035 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:56,240 summer program could integrate with, oops, maybe they could, you know, help out for a week and 1036 01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,920 do, you know, with the future summer. So I'm just saying, I think there's opportunity more 1037 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:06,680 than just like, hey, this is a private people who just want to do their play. I think this is 1038 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,640 I do feel that this is an investment into our community. 1039 01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:16,440 I'm just saying again, I'm stepping back and looking at it from that level. 1040 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,600 We are investing our town's dollars into our community. 1041 01:22:21,580 --> 01:22:25,120 I'll let that, yes, there's something I'm going to bring up later for the council. 1042 01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:34,380 But there are state statutes and counterpart laws that have effect that I'm going to propose to the council 1043 01:22:34,380 --> 01:22:42,400 that we review. And then to give the industry a chance to look through some of this stuff to make 1044 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,840 sure that we are in compliance with what the state says we can and can't get money to. 1045 01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:54,280 Is there a concern about getting money to oops? 1046 01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:56,550 Oops. 1047 01:22:58,770 --> 01:23:01,910 As a signal, a single request, 1048 01:23:04,010 --> 01:23:07,750 I don't have the answer to some of the other ones that are 1049 01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:12,570 for the budget, yes there is a problem and I'll talk with you guys, I'm going to bring up that 1050 01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:13,770 under the open items. 1051 01:23:16,060 --> 01:23:19,400 I guess that's fair, but I'm going to take my yes and I'll 1052 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:26,420 turn it from blue and if we have to have something because you need to figure finds out 1053 01:23:26,420 --> 01:23:34,820 about that's fair. I have no concern about funding to qualify tax exempt entity so they have 1054 01:23:34,820 --> 01:23:45,320 501C3 exemption. So whether it's used for rent, supplies, staff, wages, I have no problem with that. 1055 01:23:46,660 --> 01:23:47,080 Thank you. 1056 01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:57,860 I watched this council put plenty of money into our parks through our baseball fields, 1057 01:23:58,660 --> 01:24:03,820 through our project that we did down the old tennis courts and getting those converted to pickleball, 1058 01:24:03,820 --> 01:24:10,100 we dumped tons of money into our swimming pool and it seems like our community doesn't have 1059 01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:15,540 an issue with us contributing to physical activity, but we're trying away from arts and 1060 01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:18,060 we can consider what the arts provide to our community. 1061 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,040 There are a lot of people in this community 1062 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:28,680 who have gone on to do arts as a full-time profession in some way, shape, or form. This is investment 1063 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:36,020 into our community. It just isn't sports. And I think we need to consider that this isn't sports. 1064 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:46,500 To address councilwoman, Nelson's comment about my asking for funding for oops last year. 1065 01:24:46,940 --> 01:24:52,820 I've been mayor for 15 months of the city of Dahlwrapins. At the time of my asking, I 1066 01:24:52,820 --> 01:24:59,980 had wanted a summer children's theater program to go on in our city because one we have 1067 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:08,760 A beautiful outdoor ban show or whatever you want to call it, amphitheater which kids do, play on and they put 1068 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:15,840 on plays without any adult intervention. They do it the same. They run around and dance. It's 1069 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:20,960 very great entertainment for me sitting on my debt watching those kids. I can't hear what they're saying, 1070 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:26,860 but I can see them. That kind of prompted the city of Delrapid should have a summer children's theater 1071 01:25:26,860 --> 01:25:31,840 program and I'm going to use my platform as mayor to get it. Now, whether that's right 1072 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:37,100 or wrong, I couldn't tell you. If it's legal or not, I don't know. I hope it is because 1073 01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:42,920 I hope somebody would have stopped me. Anyway, that said, I get I picked a random number 1074 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:51,440 of which to I thought would maybe hopefully get you started and be able to continue on. I 1075 01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:53,460 I've never put on a flavor before. 1076 01:25:53,780 --> 01:25:55,780 I don't know what it costs to buy stuff. 1077 01:25:56,620 --> 01:26:02,160 And I hope that it wouldn't be like a reoccurring event. 1078 01:26:02,940 --> 01:26:06,840 However, knowing the cost of which it does take to get things. 1079 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,260 And the fact that the professionals that we have working with 1080 01:26:11,260 --> 01:26:14,280 are youth during that summertime, 1081 01:26:14,740 --> 01:26:18,200 they are fingerprinted FBI background check, 1082 01:26:18,540 --> 01:26:20,580 which has to happen for baseball. 1083 01:26:20,580 --> 01:26:25,000 So the coaches have to have that background check in order to work with kids. 1084 01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,480 So that's taking care of by the fact that the professionals of our city have stepped forward 1085 01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:34,400 to do this little summer theater program. 1086 01:26:36,140 --> 01:26:41,640 So in my opinion, it's, I will take the blame for not maybe for saying that it was a one-time 1087 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:47,840 deal or start up money that's on me, but don't punish the kids because of what I said. 1088 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,000 to just somehow I interpreted it, but that's really, I was like, we're in really 1089 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:58,060 introduced, oops, to the community and we need to get, so in that, in that 1090 01:26:58,060 --> 01:27:04,140 grain, it was mainly a catalyst in which to get, get it started. 1091 01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,420 And I appreciate you following the parameters of which I said, to have it done on 1092 01:27:08,420 --> 01:27:10,300 Corridis, don't feel like you have to do that again. 1093 01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:15,040 That was just my then, my request, so, anyway, good luck. 1094 01:27:18,580 --> 01:27:21,620 any further discussion on this? Well, in your team of motion. 1095 01:27:24,770 --> 01:27:25,550 So just that 1096 01:27:25,550 --> 01:27:30,430 curiosity, what would, if we're re-intertainmentless, this is backed up, what is 1097 01:27:30,430 --> 01:27:37,150 this the time to say? You know, it got shot down at 20,000, if we said 12,000, or I mean 1098 01:27:37,150 --> 01:27:42,130 or how does that? I know there was a lot of back and forth and yes on this number, what's the 1099 01:27:42,130 --> 01:27:50,110 best way to proceed? To make a motion? Okay, I guess I'd make a motion to prove 12,000. 1100 01:27:50,130 --> 01:27:57,710 We have a motion on the table by Ron's Huggins for funding oops at 12,000 is there second. 1101 01:27:59,310 --> 01:28:00,790 We have a second by Jones. 1102 01:28:01,510 --> 01:28:03,130 All those in favor say aye. 1103 01:28:03,930 --> 01:28:04,170 Aye. 1104 01:28:04,830 --> 01:28:05,850 Opposed me? 1105 01:28:06,050 --> 01:28:06,210 Aye. 1106 01:28:07,730 --> 01:28:10,030 I'm going to roll call please. 1107 01:28:11,850 --> 01:28:12,190 Phelps. 1108 01:28:12,250 --> 01:28:12,530 Aye. 1109 01:28:12,710 --> 01:28:13,090 Hi. 1110 01:28:13,490 --> 01:28:13,770 Yes. 1111 01:28:14,430 --> 01:28:14,710 Nelson. 1112 01:28:15,230 --> 01:28:15,330 Thank. 1113 01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:16,090 Kevin Jones. 1114 01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:17,450 Yes. 1115 01:28:17,450 --> 01:28:29,310 Ron Sagan? Yes, we're seeing. Yes, past motion carried. Thank you. Next item. Our budget. They're not our budget. Our agenda is new business. 1116 01:28:30,230 --> 01:28:32,450 Draft a pool board ordinance. 1117 01:28:36,730 --> 01:28:50,210 You have in front of you the draft of the pool advisory board ordinance tonight is the discussion only in if you have any changes that you want to see your direction on the ordinance over kind of the highlights or water in there. 1118 01:28:52,710 --> 01:28:57,230 It's to create and establish a pool of advisory board for the city that will wrap it. 1119 01:28:59,050 --> 01:29:05,090 Any funding would have to be approved by city council duties and responsibilities are 1120 01:29:05,090 --> 01:29:13,290 both sole purposes of assisting and planning, coordinating solicitation of funding for 1121 01:29:13,290 --> 01:29:17,490 proposed improvements to the swimming pool and provide recommendations to the city council. 1122 01:29:17,490 --> 01:29:22,490 They will not be responsible for any hiring or management of pool staff or operations. 1123 01:29:23,230 --> 01:29:31,970 Organization, I did put in there six voting members, one from the City Council as the liaison in five members, five persons of the registered voters in the city. 1124 01:29:32,450 --> 01:29:37,630 And that, and some of them advised, remember, City Employees. 1125 01:29:38,850 --> 01:29:41,510 And ladies, all the terms in there. 1126 01:29:42,690 --> 01:29:45,670 The members of course are appointed by the mayor and conferred by the council. 1127 01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:58,690 and they'll like to share person and vice chair. The second chair should be a city staff member to do the agendas and minutes and those kind of things. 1128 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:09,460 The city council liaison would pour back to the council on anything, chairperson can as well. So either one. 1129 01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:20,640 The meeting wants a month. It's not a set time in the ordinance on when, so we can set that at the time, the board is created and hopefully come up with a consistent, digging a smart. 1130 01:30:22,060 --> 01:30:25,660 Those are the highlights, so yeah, the other questions, suggestions, 1131 01:30:31,650 --> 01:30:32,910 okay with it. 1132 01:30:38,970 --> 01:30:46,970 I'm not sure if I write in there exactly how we start betting the original board. 1133 01:30:47,550 --> 01:30:50,490 We would do the same thing as we do as any other board members now. 1134 01:30:50,570 --> 01:30:51,630 We would advertise it. 1135 01:30:51,630 --> 01:30:56,090 We do have a board form, we would fill out that form, turn that in, 1136 01:30:56,090 --> 01:31:01,550 Mayer would review them, make a suggestion that Council on Council would appoint. 1137 01:31:02,050 --> 01:31:02,850 Okay, thank you. 1138 01:31:05,780 --> 01:31:07,760 And that would be obviously after this was approved. 1139 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,820 So just a draft tonight. 1140 01:31:10,580 --> 01:31:12,440 September would be first reading second reading. 1141 01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,960 It would be a fact until I think I have over. 1142 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:21,100 If it goes forward with first reading next time, it would be afterwards 16 to be a fact. 1143 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:22,540 Then would advertise. 1144 01:31:23,540 --> 01:31:24,620 And get those back. 1145 01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:32,720 at this final entertainment motion to prove no motion is just a draft. 1146 01:31:33,340 --> 01:31:40,810 I'm sorry, but I'm seeing no changes move forward. First, really next meeting, it's kind of 1147 01:31:40,810 --> 01:31:41,710 on hand. 1148 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:46,900 Thank you, further discussion. 1149 01:31:52,190 --> 01:31:56,190 Moving on, the Orlean's Avenue Project, set resolution 1150 01:31:56,190 --> 01:32:04,230 that necessity, public hearing, date. So tonight is just the set, the public hearing date. 1151 01:32:04,230 --> 01:32:11,770 We'll set it for September 8th at 7 o'clock, but there was a lot of information in there for you and 1152 01:32:11,770 --> 01:32:17,330 I attached the public knows that notice I've attached the proposed resolution and necessity for the Orleans project. 1153 01:32:17,870 --> 01:32:23,110 We attach the exhibit for you in the special assessment process. So that was all in there for you. 1154 01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:33,150 The city isn't expressed in intent to assess the portion of the project. We have done it in the last three or four projects. So that's kind of the precedent that's been set. 1155 01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:39,710 We've communicated this attempt with the property owners by holding an open house a few weeks ago 1156 01:32:39,710 --> 01:32:44,570 And I will have to once you set this hearing date tonight later this week. 1157 01:32:44,650 --> 01:32:48,370 I'll have to mail out to all the property owners that are affected. 1158 01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:53,530 I noticed some of the public hearing date and a bunch of other information in there as well. 1159 01:32:54,890 --> 01:32:59,170 So the overall project is about 4.9 million. 1160 01:32:59,170 --> 01:33:04,330 about 250,000 to that is those of our work looking out to be assessed. 1161 01:33:04,610 --> 01:33:07,170 There's a total of about 36 properties in there. 1162 01:33:08,030 --> 01:33:13,390 So tonight we just need a motion to set the public hearing data on September 8th at 7 p.m. 1163 01:33:14,010 --> 01:33:17,230 This final layer of data motion to set the date or September 8th. 1164 01:33:17,230 --> 01:33:17,950 Oh my god motion. 1165 01:33:18,250 --> 01:33:19,230 There's a second. 1166 01:33:19,470 --> 01:33:22,230 We have a motion on the table from Ron Sagan. 1167 01:33:22,230 --> 01:33:25,230 Let's take a look at Nelson for September 8th. 1168 01:33:26,310 --> 01:33:27,390 All those in favor say aye. 1169 01:33:27,390 --> 01:33:34,870 By the way, I proposed an A motion carried moving on proposed summer city summer recreation program 2027 1170 01:33:35,610 --> 01:33:40,910 Attached is the draft proposal on ideas for the city to run in the city with run a summer record program 1171 01:33:42,110 --> 01:33:47,270 Maths here to go more in details. I just want to know that anything that's in the packet is 1172 01:33:47,270 --> 01:33:48,190 draft only 1173 01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:52,910 Set and stone so I just wanted to get that out there 1174 01:33:52,910 --> 01:33:53,610 Thank you 1175 01:33:55,530 --> 01:33:56,890 Yeah, so this was 1176 01:33:56,890 --> 01:34:04,190 So, an idea that to have now been talking about and put together to do a some a record 1177 01:34:04,930 --> 01:34:10,170 program, you know, kind of in the budget discussion is with that program that I was 1178 01:34:10,170 --> 01:34:15,230 talked about earlier with Haven. This could be opportunity for us to have one at the 1179 01:34:15,230 --> 01:34:21,770 city park. We would tentatively run it from June to July for ages five and older. 1180 01:34:21,770 --> 01:34:30,390 we wouldn't cost anything. I said in there a lot of this is conceptual some high-level ideas 1181 01:34:31,010 --> 01:34:36,790 of what we like to do a sample daily schedule. In the fact that there's also a sample on 1182 01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:44,750 what each week to potentially be each week we could have a theme to it. I'm just putting 1183 01:34:44,750 --> 01:34:50,850 hitting some of the highlights of this we've proposed having a couple of part-time recreation leaders 1184 01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:53,750 just so that we'd have at least one person available. 1185 01:34:53,850 --> 01:34:57,450 Hopefully that you know vacation, say what have you, something to be gone. 1186 01:34:58,170 --> 01:34:59,970 I can hear that you know, we're... 1187 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,520 And also, on the idea, be nice if it's a college student in the middle of elementary education program, or somebody who might be heading that direction to maybe kind of be the point folks for this. 1188 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:20,580 And there's certainly some opportunities there. We could reach up to say, Mary, get some volunteer, others with those kids can help coordinate them in this as well. 1189 01:35:22,340 --> 01:35:25,460 can be the highlight of what we've gone with. 1190 01:35:26,580 --> 01:35:28,080 So happy to answer any questions. 1191 01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,880 Which might happen if you have a lot of kids signing up. 1192 01:35:31,060 --> 01:35:32,760 Are there two employees in Vienna? 1193 01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:34,360 Hopefully. 1194 01:35:37,580 --> 01:35:45,060 You know, there, I think there's an opportunity there where I could run down there for a little bit to kind of pursue some things. 1195 01:35:45,300 --> 01:35:49,980 Maybe to tell you, somebody else too could run down there and help with that as well. 1196 01:35:49,980 --> 01:35:53,200 But that's where we're looking at both the tiers, but T.S. 1197 01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:54,020 So, yes. 1198 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,780 And we would probably be back to the same area, 1199 01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:01,220 or any other folks that need those volunteer hours for projects. 1200 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:09,280 So, our community involvement that they need to have required that this will certainly be a lot of those things that we can use to read those requirements. 1201 01:36:12,230 --> 01:36:14,630 Sort of a part-time employee's. 1202 01:36:14,930 --> 01:36:18,490 Yeah, because we would be looking at running this from the hours of night and afternoon, 1203 01:36:18,490 --> 01:36:19,690 Monday through Thursday. 1204 01:36:19,690 --> 01:36:24,350 I know one of our very first iterations without Friday, but we went back in the 1205 01:36:24,350 --> 01:36:24,750 Pavilion. 1206 01:36:25,190 --> 01:36:29,210 Don't think this book just thought it would be Friday too, so I believe that's the 1207 01:36:29,210 --> 01:36:31,210 most of those books that we can use it for the weekend. 1208 01:36:36,660 --> 01:36:40,860 Matt, the only question in your comment, I guess, did you have help pulling this together? 1209 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:42,480 Is this basically a computer? 1210 01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:47,280 I'm going to get credit to Tammy, she's the one that kind of ran with this. 1211 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,560 Okay, well my only comment is I got on here, who put this together? 1212 01:36:50,860 --> 01:36:51,420 I like it. 1213 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,880 Good job of first draft on this, thank you. 1214 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:54,100 Okay, 1215 01:36:56,330 --> 01:37:02,090 as someone who works with middle schoolers and eighth graders don't always like to spend time with sixth graders. 1216 01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:11,670 I'm wondering, and I get that this kind of started with that hate and proposal and that half our time requirements might be a little tight, 1217 01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:17,570 but I'm wondering if you want to try that and just break it down into a little bit of an age range. 1218 01:37:17,570 --> 01:37:23,330 I know they do that at the library too because do you really want sixth graders throwing 1219 01:37:23,330 --> 01:37:30,110 you bodily bones or whatever at a first grader? So that would be my feedback. I like you've got 1220 01:37:30,110 --> 01:37:34,290 a great draft and that's what you're here to do is ask this right input and that's just one 1221 01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:41,470 of my things is maybe try first some age ability and skill level there. But I think it's a good 1222 01:37:41,470 --> 01:37:46,530 idea to incorporate, you know, the physical activity and the STEM and game time and that kind of thing 1223 01:37:46,530 --> 01:37:52,610 like kind of that common go so you know like a kid a first grade of how we can't stand there for 1224 01:37:52,610 --> 01:37:57,630 three hours and do this but I also worry about are you going to get fifth graders if you have 1225 01:37:57,630 --> 01:38:04,450 kindergarten person yeah I can say a brain and it's open and there's no like the ages aren't 1226 01:38:04,450 --> 01:38:09,430 separated so it's just an open gem and all you just are there and they have different tables for 1227 01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:16,510 different activities and such but yeah I just wonder if a two hour but anyway but then again I 1228 01:38:16,510 --> 01:38:19,810 Then I go, well, you know what, you can have families that are going well, I've got a first 1229 01:38:19,810 --> 01:38:23,730 greater third grader and a fifth grader, and they might go, we just want to go to the 1230 01:38:23,730 --> 01:38:28,850 park and not have to try to hit two different times, so I don't believe I'm overthinking 1231 01:38:28,850 --> 01:38:29,370 it. 1232 01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:32,590 I mean, I don't fully disagree with you, like if you're going to have a kindergarten or 1233 01:38:32,590 --> 01:38:38,770 a versus like a sixth grader, but truth be told, I don't think you're going to see as many 1234 01:38:38,770 --> 01:38:42,090 of the older kids present. 1235 01:38:42,090 --> 01:38:48,890 I will tell you like my kids were like so disappointed on the days that they couldn't go to the library. 1236 01:38:49,450 --> 01:38:53,370 They couldn't just couldn't participate in the other events that were going on. 1237 01:38:53,490 --> 01:38:57,990 But I think this first draft and you guys running with us is great. 1238 01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:58,970 I think it's a good start. 1239 01:38:59,270 --> 01:39:02,110 I hope finding the right people that will run it. 1240 01:39:02,230 --> 01:39:06,970 I think it's awesome coming from a mom whose kids are very, very bored. 1241 01:39:07,870 --> 01:39:09,390 So I'm ready for school to start. 1242 01:39:09,850 --> 01:39:11,730 Hopefully this didn't become for three hours. 1243 01:39:11,950 --> 01:39:14,210 Go grab a quick lunch and get the pool for the rest of the afternoon. 1244 01:39:15,150 --> 01:39:20,390 What is the process between now and the first event? 1245 01:39:21,250 --> 01:39:22,450 I mean, do they got to tighten it down? 1246 01:39:22,510 --> 01:39:24,490 They come back with proposals, schedules. 1247 01:39:24,970 --> 01:39:26,070 How does that all play out? 1248 01:39:26,650 --> 01:39:27,010 I curious. 1249 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:28,690 Well, I've added it in the budget. 1250 01:39:29,230 --> 01:39:30,970 So in my line as long as you improve the budget, 1251 01:39:31,150 --> 01:39:32,830 we wouldn't afford it with it. 1252 01:39:32,830 --> 01:39:34,330 With hiring the next year, 1253 01:39:34,490 --> 01:39:36,050 we would come up with the final ideas, 1254 01:39:36,270 --> 01:39:38,370 bring those back to you and say, 1255 01:39:38,370 --> 01:39:45,370 This is, you know, the, listen, the weekly information and get that information out, the social media website. 1256 01:39:45,670 --> 01:39:51,710 Those kind of things probably wouldn't have the paper just to get the word out there that we're doing again next year. 1257 01:39:57,150 --> 01:39:58,710 Thanks, man. Good start. 1258 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:08,480 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Moving on, 1259 01:40:10,770 --> 01:40:13,090 the 2027 budget works session. 1260 01:40:15,150 --> 01:40:29,170 Mayor, I'm going to kick this off and then pass it over to Christina. This agenda item is to provide it to changes from the August 10 budget session, which is in your packet and to the finalizes, much as possible, any changes before staff brings back the first ordinance reading. 1261 01:40:29,170 --> 01:40:38,550 At the September 8th meeting, I would strongly encourage council to try to button up any major 1262 01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:40,210 disagreements they have tonight. 1263 01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:45,110 If we don't have a successful first reading on September 8th, we really start compressing 1264 01:40:45,110 --> 01:40:49,430 the schedule which could result in additional council meetings, I don't think we need to 1265 01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:49,790 do that. 1266 01:40:49,910 --> 01:40:55,330 I think pretty cold or so on and everything, but I will turn over when I can crisp it out. 1267 01:40:56,470 --> 01:41:25,310 I've highlighted everything in the packet, but I'm just going to go over the highlights and then after that, we can talk about anything else you want, but page two, add a back in the pool concessions revenue, page three, tweak the pavilion fees, since the discussion was the way the fees as is, and then change the transfer from general front and reserves to cover the street shop essentially is what the difference is. 1268 01:41:25,330 --> 01:41:26,150 there. 1269 01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:40,410 I didn't tab my pages. The next one of your page 13 adding in the 15,000 for two 1270 01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:45,710 radar speed signs. It was mentioned that the one this year with the funds I'm going to have 1271 01:41:45,710 --> 01:41:53,530 and then add two next year. So I added in 15,000 from what we kind of get back on estimates. I should 1272 01:41:53,530 --> 01:41:58,490 cover it with the sign and pull and then install 1273 01:42:01,020 --> 01:42:08,440 page 14, the trance it added in the insurance 1274 01:42:08,440 --> 01:42:14,880 property insurance and utilities in there so we were doing utilities, it was on the past 1275 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:24,720 history and just missed page 17 we added in the summer wreck program, we did put 10,000 in 1276 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:30,380 There, the staff feels that's more than adequate to cover wages and supplies to get us up and running. 1277 01:42:30,660 --> 01:42:34,640 We initially thought 7500 and I was mentioned here 10,000. 1278 01:42:35,860 --> 01:42:40,200 So I think that will be more than enough to get the supplies. 1279 01:42:40,340 --> 01:42:46,220 And once we have some of those supplies, we should be good for the following year and we use those four games and those different things. 1280 01:42:46,220 --> 01:42:53,540 So swimming pool increased the wages and we're doing concessions and then I have the expenditure 1281 01:42:53,540 --> 01:42:55,480 in there for the concessions supplies. 1282 01:43:01,340 --> 01:43:10,820 That balance is out, the general fund to zero, page 25, the third set, I added that transfer 1283 01:43:10,820 --> 01:43:16,380 out to the revolving loan fund of 30,000, and then the next couple of pages are adding 1284 01:43:16,380 --> 01:43:24,380 in that revolving loan fund, getting that transfer in there and then potentially budgeting 1285 01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:31,160 some of the 30,000 for loans. So that obviously has to come forward with the revolving 1286 01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:35,460 loan fund and the program, and yet, but wanted to get it in the budget. 1287 01:43:42,050 --> 01:43:54,650 Page 37 is the liquor fund. We increased that transfer to the general fund to 160 and that is at zero. 1288 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:08,020 Page 44 did increase the sewer professional services up to 60. It was at 40. 1289 01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:15,940 looking at the past history and the sewer fund was had more than that. So I just increased that to 1290 01:44:15,940 --> 01:44:21,620 make sure that we were covered on that. And the only other question that I've forgot to ask 1291 01:44:21,620 --> 01:44:27,760 in the last meeting is where your thoughts were on the district insurance. I didn't add anything in there. 1292 01:44:29,340 --> 01:44:34,780 Didn't know if you wanted to offer that at all to stop whether it was all on them or if you wanted 1293 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,740 the cover of the single coverage on that. 1294 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,500 Can you remind me what that's doing on that one? 1295 01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,120 I think if we covered all the staff, 1296 01:44:49,140 --> 01:44:53,920 think it was around 3,000, 3,300, 1297 01:44:54,180 --> 01:44:55,420 and I think it was where it was around. 1298 01:44:56,220 --> 01:44:58,900 And that's of all staff would take it. 1299 01:44:59,500 --> 01:44:59,980 And that, that, that, that. 1300 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,500 Would be spread out across general fund, water, and sewer, for all of our employees aren't. 1301 01:45:07,230 --> 01:45:10,250 But unlike health, it would be employee only. 1302 01:45:11,690 --> 01:45:13,110 Or are you saying this would be right? 1303 01:45:13,190 --> 01:45:24,410 I would suggest that if if council is willing to cover up any of it would be employee only, you single coverage, they would cover it and then it would be only employee to pay anything about them beyond that. 1304 01:45:25,550 --> 01:45:26,650 Okay, thank you. 1305 01:45:30,330 --> 01:45:37,430 I think either way I think there's interest with first app to offer it, either direction, 1306 01:45:40,090 --> 01:45:47,710 so I just if you wanted to consider paying for the single premium I would add it into the 1307 01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:50,680 budget. 1308 01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,160 For the, or you know having that is an offer. 1309 01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:00,240 With city coverage single? 1310 01:46:01,140 --> 01:46:01,900 Yeah single, right. 1311 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:02,580 That's right. 1312 01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:05,160 I will take a second. 1313 01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:10,880 Okay. 1314 01:46:11,480 --> 01:46:12,300 I'm seeing a majority. 1315 01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:14,800 I'm on a coastline. 1316 01:46:15,180 --> 01:46:17,460 So I guess that would be in favor of it. 1317 01:46:18,140 --> 01:46:25,500 I'm more worried about how much money we take and spend just on employees. 1318 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,980 And I'm going to take that to that time clock issue. 1319 01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:36,440 And so I have no problems spending 3300 helping people have glasses because that's part of their daily life. 1320 01:46:36,440 --> 01:46:40,400 and they really can't do their job without their glasses. 1321 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:46,980 And, um, but then I look at some of this at the amount of budget. 1322 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:51,060 And I know you can give me the percentages that were way under, you know, 1323 01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:52,400 state average national libraries. 1324 01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:54,580 Whatever average you want to give me. 1325 01:46:55,380 --> 01:46:59,800 Um, but when it comes to punching and another time clock we have, 1326 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:04,620 we have supervisors that can supervise their employees and they can manage their 1327 01:47:05,820 --> 01:47:14,130 timesheets, because we don't have 20 employees do we have in this city and if we exclude 1328 01:47:14,130 --> 01:47:21,250 the pool, if we exclude the pool in around 20 and we want to spend 15,000 on time 1329 01:47:21,250 --> 01:47:27,030 clocks. I'm like that's, and that's this year and I know you said that the time clocks 1330 01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:30,370 are going to get changed over here and that's not, but then what's the new thing next 1331 01:47:30,370 --> 01:47:35,210 that we're going to spend on managing employees and the next time and the next time. 1332 01:47:36,450 --> 01:47:42,350 I just kind of go let the supervisor supervise their employees. They've been doing it. We didn't 1333 01:47:42,350 --> 01:47:48,990 have to have $15,000 with the timeclubs. If we need one of the pool because it's a lot of 1334 01:47:48,990 --> 01:47:54,270 in and out and they're not training. It's not it's a seasonal job and they're not in that learning 1335 01:47:54,270 --> 01:47:59,850 and all that. I could be convinced of that but I guess it's just that that creep of how much 1336 01:47:59,850 --> 01:48:06,730 the budget we spend on staff that I don't know if our citizens really see the benefit of 1337 01:48:06,730 --> 01:48:10,550 something like that. But I'm okay with vision. Thank you. 1338 01:48:14,130 --> 01:48:18,250 So the vision contact will come in front of council on a different time, obviously. 1339 01:48:18,850 --> 01:48:24,250 I will put some numbers on the budget just to make sure it's covered, but it'll be something 1340 01:48:24,250 --> 01:48:29,030 that will come forward to you that you'll have to do an official approval for the vision anyway. 1341 01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:39,260 on that note. Is there any other things in the budget concerns? I want to make sure 1342 01:48:39,260 --> 01:48:42,060 that the first reading and September 8th we're going to go and we don't have 1343 01:48:42,060 --> 01:48:46,760 any issues. So I want to bring them up now. And that's why I'm bringing that now. I'm 1344 01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,960 full-hander sample in the budget so that's that I get that. Thank you. 1345 01:48:51,140 --> 01:48:54,400 All right. So are you asking their room room for the money for the time-pots? 1346 01:48:54,620 --> 01:48:58,180 Is that what you're asking for? I would appreciate some input because yes I would put 1347 01:48:58,180 --> 01:49:06,320 for that motion. So if the time cards aren't purchased, hear me out, that money just wouldn't 1348 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:14,120 be allocated at that time. Like, I know we're putting money in the budget, it hasn't been purchased, 1349 01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:23,560 but as far as time cards go, I supervise staff. I supervise a few staff now, but one of my staff 1350 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:29,700 only five people and I physically can see them out. But I still want to know when they punch in an 1351 01:49:29,700 --> 01:49:35,280 out for one, making sure that they are taking their lunch bag. The lunch bag is further not 1352 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:41,780 skipping them because they I think have to take a lunch break unless they're approved and it's just 1353 01:49:41,780 --> 01:49:47,040 that accountability. Auditing purposes, HR will come after me if there's a time card, 1354 01:49:47,300 --> 01:49:52,740 somebody works 501, that's a differential pay. I can't just go back and adjust their time card. 1355 01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,860 because they worked past five or one. 1356 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,380 That is a common ability, too, 1357 01:49:58,480 --> 01:49:59,980 and it's a lot of stress, as it's... 1358 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:27,940 Supervisor, because then I can't say, well, they are actually here only to file. No, they were here to file a 1 and they have to pay them a differential pay. I'm just telling you, as a supervisor, time cards have saved me more than once, like, tenfold. That's where I stand. Whether they're bigger small kids, I know swimming pool, they're not, you know, a huge piece of the pie or whatever during the summer. 1359 01:50:27,940 --> 01:50:31,460 but time cards not only protect the supervisor, 1360 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,340 but also them play you too. 1361 01:50:33,740 --> 01:50:35,320 Because if they are working longer, 1362 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,980 coming in earlier, there's any differential pace 1363 01:50:38,980 --> 01:50:40,900 or anything like that, it is covered. 1364 01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:44,000 And do we have a differential pay factor? 1365 01:50:47,590 --> 01:50:50,350 That might be, count times, maybe what you're talking about. 1366 01:50:51,110 --> 01:50:53,230 I mean, there's like, I actually experience it. 1367 01:50:53,630 --> 01:50:54,870 You know, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, 1368 01:50:55,050 --> 01:50:57,350 and you go back to eight o'clock, eight o'clock, eight o'clock, 1369 01:50:57,350 --> 01:51:03,310 22 is 815. So I mean there's I don't know if that's me or are you kind of talking about to you and 1370 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:11,560 the time clock just doesn't automatically and that's it's really nice if you don't have to think about 1371 01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,380 what time you came in. Do I need to move it back to it? 1372 01:51:14,380 --> 01:51:18,080 It's a clock and move 4815 and it's just it's there on the time clock. 1373 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:21,160 But we would be looking at the January implementation. 1374 01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:29,120 We would start with implementing, yes, in January, probably take four to six months. 1375 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:35,520 So I would suggest we just leave that in the budget and we can continue bringing it up before that time, 1376 01:51:35,700 --> 01:51:39,280 because we would want to do approval on to the software and the hardware projects at that time. 1377 01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,880 Correct? Is that a fair order? 1378 01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,300 If you want me to bring four in again? 1379 01:51:47,500 --> 01:51:53,960 only just because there's if there's the scent I guess. But like for now I would recommend 1380 01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:58,900 just leaving in the budget. One of the things I could be wrong in this 1381 01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:05,200 but I believe that there was a law or ruling about Browning people's kinds on the 1382 01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:10,240 time class where that was found not to be legit. So I don't know if that's 1383 01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,880 somebody might want to check in, put the software at the time, so I can 1384 01:52:14,460 --> 01:52:17,260 and laws on that that people weren't. 1385 01:52:17,480 --> 01:52:20,780 I didn't pay for the time they weren't because of the rounding that was being done. 1386 01:52:23,740 --> 01:52:27,720 How many people do we have that this doesn't affect this far salary? 1387 01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:29,300 They're meant to be harder. 1388 01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:31,060 All would have such a clock in. 1389 01:52:31,480 --> 01:52:32,300 I know I get it. 1390 01:52:32,300 --> 01:52:33,060 You guys are salary. 1391 01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:34,940 You can't clock in and clock out. 1392 01:52:35,700 --> 01:52:37,940 But how many other people on that are salary? 1393 01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,680 It doesn't really affect their pay if you're salary, right? 1394 01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:48,030 I mean, just do them make what you make correct correct, correct, but yeah, sorry. 1395 01:52:48,030 --> 01:52:50,810 Why are we going to have nothing to do with their pay, right? 1396 01:52:51,790 --> 01:52:54,750 But you're still required to work your hours even if you're salary. 1397 01:52:55,550 --> 01:53:01,150 So like I'm salary, but I like that, but if I didn't do that, they don't need differential 1398 01:53:01,150 --> 01:53:04,750 paid because for no differential pay was just so simple. 1399 01:53:04,970 --> 01:53:05,890 I used to where I work. 1400 01:53:06,230 --> 01:53:08,670 But I'm going off the examples. 1401 01:53:10,350 --> 01:53:18,200 If we're salary, it doesn't really matter for that minute or round name or whatever. 1402 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:25,780 So I'm just going to use Steve here as an example because he takes calls all the time. 1403 01:53:26,300 --> 01:53:29,680 Alright, so we can, it's early morning's year name it. 1404 01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:32,300 Does Steve clock in then? 1405 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:36,600 Does he just document it and then have to go back and adjust it? 1406 01:53:36,860 --> 01:53:39,600 How does that work when Claire stops somewhere? 1407 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:45,940 before he goes to the shop and checks on something and see if leaving out of town and going down to the shop. 1408 01:53:46,420 --> 01:53:51,620 Is he on the clock? Is he off the clock? How much adjustment are we going to get from some of our employees? 1409 01:53:52,100 --> 01:53:59,130 And is that worth 15? Yeah. 1410 01:54:00,470 --> 01:54:07,070 I mean, it just kind of makes me think about, like, how exactly does this work in practice for some of our employees? 1411 01:54:07,070 --> 01:54:15,910 is because it seems like there's some of them. It works. I've implemented it. I've done it. It works. 1412 01:54:16,170 --> 01:54:22,310 There's an hours of quest button, so if you're taking a phone call after hours and it's more than 1413 01:54:23,930 --> 01:54:29,050 eight or seven minutes, then you can do an hours of quest for that and then that gets approved. 1414 01:54:29,630 --> 01:54:33,230 There's time-off requests, so you don't have to do it with paper, time-off requests and you 1415 01:54:33,230 --> 01:54:39,010 you time off in their supervisor proves that you have that time off. So it is a very nice system. 1416 01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:40,530 It works very well. 1417 01:54:42,670 --> 01:54:48,030 Is there for auditors, payroll auditors to look at those hours, 1418 01:54:48,150 --> 01:54:59,970 supervisors to look at those hours, they approve them and they get sent off to payroll and then payroll 1419 01:55:00,940 --> 01:55:04,140 But there's just a little piece of this that makes me wonder. 1420 01:55:08,420 --> 01:55:18,920 If the impression that we aren't giving is that we haven't trusted our employees up to this point to the accurate and their record keeping. And how does our staff feel about? 1421 01:55:22,810 --> 01:55:35,470 And that's so much the accountability side of it because they do think our staff have been pretty accountable to their hours, but, like, how does this impact them from a we no longer trust you to accurately keep your time? 1422 01:55:35,470 --> 01:55:41,430 Has anybody in our staff really expressed some concern for 1423 01:55:42,970 --> 01:55:44,710 Disagrement with a time clock system 1424 01:55:46,270 --> 01:55:48,810 I've mentioned that it's all the supervisors and I have not 1425 01:55:51,010 --> 01:55:55,650 They've all been fighting with it. Yep. I think we're asking the wrong questions 1426 01:55:55,650 --> 01:55:58,090 I think you're looking at as a punitive thing 1427 01:55:58,650 --> 01:56:04,430 Software is just like not I know and that's what I'm saying. It's software is just like anything it can be 1428 01:56:05,470 --> 01:56:07,150 I've been in thousands of small businesses. 1429 01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:12,330 Every software is just dependent on the companies 1430 01:56:12,330 --> 01:56:13,790 where I'm going to use it, right? 1431 01:56:13,970 --> 01:56:15,450 It's like the previous software that we 1432 01:56:15,450 --> 01:56:16,630 purchased without it would be great, 1433 01:56:16,670 --> 01:56:18,510 who didn't use it, you know what I mean? 1434 01:56:19,870 --> 01:56:22,710 So on four efficient cities and things 1435 01:56:22,710 --> 01:56:25,170 of that nature, I think we just bleeped in there 1436 01:56:25,170 --> 01:56:29,470 and let them move forward if it's not an effective tool. 1437 01:56:30,130 --> 01:56:31,210 I'm certain we'll hear about it. 1438 01:56:33,690 --> 01:56:35,170 It's going to be effective. 1439 01:56:35,170 --> 01:56:46,230 It's to me, we have been for decades running a city, we've had a few more employees and we keep now adding more money to manage our employees. 1440 01:56:47,330 --> 01:56:48,530 That's where I am at. 1441 01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:55,990 Because for decades, we've been functioning and I haven't heard any citizens mad that nobody's at their works say. 1442 01:56:57,330 --> 01:57:02,630 So there's also a lot of new cable laws that have been coming out every year too, to the 1443 01:57:02,630 --> 01:57:07,190 invention of these crazy smart devices, you know, if you got a salary or an hourly 1444 01:57:07,190 --> 01:57:11,710 person that has a phone and has to take emails in the weekends, we have to be paying 1445 01:57:11,710 --> 01:57:12,470 at them. 1446 01:57:12,730 --> 01:57:18,630 There's all kinds of evolution in that we're suggesting, honestly, honestly, I'm sure that 1447 01:57:18,630 --> 01:57:22,370 we are in compliance with the very human laws out there too. 1448 01:57:23,950 --> 01:57:25,410 It's a complex deal. 1449 01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:32,760 Moving on. 1450 01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:38,840 All right. Anything else in the budget? 1451 01:57:41,550 --> 01:57:45,450 Well, I take issue with the cost of the breast 1452 01:57:45,450 --> 01:57:49,330 room. It's late in that 300,000 death park. 1453 01:57:53,220 --> 01:57:54,740 I think we can lower that. 1454 01:57:58,220 --> 01:57:59,120 I just wanted 1455 01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:03,680 to mention that people have asked me if it's going to for sure have the storage equipment 1456 01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:08,560 space that it currently has, because when my husband coached, he was more where we were 1457 01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:14,140 going to remove and just make it a bathroom. And so I think we still need to make sure it has 1458 01:58:14,140 --> 01:58:19,600 storage and I think it's a mention and I didn't quite understand because it was the meat house 1459 01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:26,140 gone, so I was only watching another video with the concessions. And I think it would be nice if there 1460 01:58:26,980 --> 01:58:34,040 was an easy way to do concessions. So I'm hoping when we design it, we actually designed it for bathrooms, 1461 01:58:34,220 --> 01:58:42,140 concessions, and storage. And I believe that was Clarence's plan. So it's being promoted to 1462 01:58:42,140 --> 01:58:50,390 to ask them about the bathroom. I believe Clarence mentioned what we talked about it being a 1463 01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:56,310 replacement for what was there and what currently there has concessionorage and yeah and I 1464 01:58:56,310 --> 01:59:02,310 don't and that would be somebody or friend it's been decades like at least a decade since I've been 1465 01:59:02,310 --> 01:59:07,630 down there and I don't remember concessions ever being sold out of there so I don't know if it's an 1466 01:59:07,630 --> 01:59:14,370 Fishent way of doing it or what it has, it has so kind, it's just a poor design right now. 1467 01:59:15,190 --> 01:59:20,430 So don't you think of redesign of it, not to significantly raise the cost. I'm not asking for that. 1468 01:59:21,150 --> 01:59:25,270 But I just think there's people that I'd love to be able to say that looks. Can you work with the baseball, 1469 01:59:25,690 --> 01:59:30,070 people who can see if you can do a fundraiser down there? You know, that's what I'm with. 1470 01:59:32,260 --> 01:59:34,740 So I think it would need all those needs correct. 1471 01:59:35,900 --> 01:59:37,980 It doesn't click down. 1472 01:59:38,460 --> 01:59:39,880 Did he say that last night? 1473 01:59:40,220 --> 01:59:40,420 Yeah. 1474 01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:49,540 I think it's important to budget for the building and take this and whatever it comes in, 1475 01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:50,920 then we'll approve that. 1476 01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,740 300 is probably, is that the high end? 1477 01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,420 I'd be surprised if it's over. 1478 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,540 Major in February, evening, minute, or evening, or the mayor to the people to mess up with a 1479 02:00:00,540 --> 02:00:00,580 hour. 1480 02:00:01,900 --> 02:00:09,640 But 2.25 and 3.8 I mean, ultimately it's going to come back to you in a bit and you can decide 1481 02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:11,940 if you're going to have to move the distance, a bit, 1482 02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:23,060 a bit of a cut off of chat. 1483 02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:24,880 I just want to leave the money in the budget. 1484 02:00:26,220 --> 02:00:31,400 I believe that happens, when it comes time to a week and neither approve it tonight. 1485 02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:33,200 Or the town. 1486 02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,100 I said my teeth. 1487 02:00:40,110 --> 02:00:40,950 Anything else? 1488 02:00:45,980 --> 02:00:46,080 All right? 1489 02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:46,680 No. 1490 02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:48,680 So the only 1491 02:00:50,980 --> 02:00:54,860 thing I have is just the change that I've visioned in there. 1492 02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:59,140 And that's it for the time. 1493 02:00:59,420 --> 02:01:03,180 And so I'll bring, I'll take that and I'll bring the first reading at the September 8th meeting. 1494 02:01:03,780 --> 02:01:04,180 Is the plan. 1495 02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:09,060 Other than that, something everybody's kind of on the same page. 1496 02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:10,140 But what else? 1497 02:01:10,300 --> 02:01:10,940 We've talked about. 1498 02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:19,070 and to reiterate if something were to change next week and if they do it again we have to have 1499 02:01:19,070 --> 02:01:21,530 a special session correct. 1500 02:01:22,110 --> 02:01:27,910 So yeah, I hope there's not, and that's why we have budget meetings, that's why we have 1501 02:01:27,910 --> 02:01:31,910 budget sessions to work all of these details out. 1502 02:01:32,410 --> 02:01:37,370 You know, I wonder, it's a budget as a guide, and a lot of these things will come back to the council again. 1503 02:01:37,370 --> 02:01:41,570 You know, if it goes to bed, if we got professional services for the DGR, 1504 02:01:43,870 --> 02:01:51,010 if, you know, there's many things that will come back back to council, but other things are going to guide for staff. 1505 02:01:51,990 --> 02:01:54,370 So I hope there isn't. 1506 02:01:55,130 --> 02:02:00,470 You could make a motion to change the first reading and then second and then you would have to. 1507 02:02:00,970 --> 02:02:07,010 But if you have changes after you do that first reading then you would have to do that. 1508 02:02:08,070 --> 02:02:08,910 especially moving. 1509 02:02:09,790 --> 02:02:13,610 So, I guess I feel comfortable offering on this. 1510 02:02:13,850 --> 02:02:14,190 So, for sure. 1511 02:02:14,690 --> 02:02:14,830 Okay, 1512 02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:23,460 I will get that going. 1513 02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:27,380 Thank you. 1514 02:02:31,650 --> 02:02:33,450 Sorry, so we done with the. 1515 02:02:34,710 --> 02:02:35,370 Bless you. 1516 02:02:35,630 --> 02:02:36,550 But do it work session. 1517 02:02:38,430 --> 02:02:40,250 And all right, moving on to you now. 1518 02:02:40,450 --> 02:02:41,870 Finally, let's have the service report. 1519 02:02:42,930 --> 02:02:45,790 Just the July Financeals are attached for you. 1520 02:02:45,830 --> 02:02:47,650 Sales tax kind of came up this last month. 1521 02:02:47,650 --> 02:02:48,870 So we're kind of flat now. 1522 02:02:48,970 --> 02:02:50,390 So that was nice to see. 1523 02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:58,290 And then the pool closed if you didn't know pool closed Saturday, so they are close for the season and they're working this week to get down. 1524 02:02:59,050 --> 02:03:02,550 Oh, emptied and cleaned up for them. 1525 02:03:02,750 --> 02:03:03,610 Fall winter. 1526 02:03:06,050 --> 02:03:07,390 And that was all I have. 1527 02:03:08,450 --> 02:03:09,390 Okay, thank you. 1528 02:03:10,550 --> 02:03:11,670 Administrative support, Steve. 1529 02:03:11,890 --> 02:03:13,510 Just a couple of quick items, Mayor. 1530 02:03:13,710 --> 02:03:16,430 I have continued research on the speed side edge captain. 1531 02:03:16,430 --> 02:03:19,090 This is going to talk a little bit about it. 1532 02:03:19,790 --> 02:03:23,530 Arizona came back with mobile trailers with all kinds of bells 1533 02:03:23,530 --> 02:03:27,730 and whistles and analytics run $11 to $20,000. 1534 02:03:28,290 --> 02:03:30,690 If you're considering something on the other hand, 1535 02:03:30,810 --> 02:03:34,790 which was basically seems to be referred to in the industry 1536 02:03:34,790 --> 02:03:37,970 as a speech on a stick where you get something 1537 02:03:37,970 --> 02:03:41,170 which is basically since how fast you're going. 1538 02:03:41,870 --> 02:03:43,410 And maybe a little bit of a virtual exploded 1539 02:03:43,410 --> 02:03:48,170 owner, you know, it doesn't do anything, it's all yours to move on if you're under it's 1540 02:03:48,170 --> 02:03:53,330 it's thank you, that kind of thing. There's a permanent signs and you can melt them on anything 1541 02:03:53,330 --> 02:04:00,870 that you've got in the ground and wherever you want to do it within reason. I've got a couple of 1542 02:04:00,870 --> 02:04:07,830 bits on this already, Christina, I connected me with what they used in Brandon. I talked to Harris 1543 02:04:07,830 --> 02:04:16,810 burden, but those units, I got a bit of three out of them for $8,000, so kind of runs the 1544 02:04:16,810 --> 02:04:23,170 gamut and what you might want to spend. So we've got $7,500 in the budget. If we wanted to do 1545 02:04:24,050 --> 02:04:30,590 one or two of them, if you want to stretch the $7,500, $8,000, maybe we'll have to do three of them this 1546 02:04:30,590 --> 02:04:35,530 year, and that's going to free up some budget money this year, or we can just test your item one, 1547 02:04:36,910 --> 02:04:40,370 And we can devote the rest of the next year, if we see how we like it. 1548 02:04:40,870 --> 02:04:42,430 So there's a lot of options. 1549 02:04:43,650 --> 02:04:49,050 I was kind of focusing on the cow-like options, but I don't think that's necessary for what we're trying to do here. 1550 02:04:49,050 --> 02:04:50,570 We're just trying to get people to slow it down. 1551 02:04:50,750 --> 02:04:54,090 And that's what happens, as I said, seems to work really well. 1552 02:04:55,750 --> 02:04:59,910 So if you want it, I can bring those back at the next meeting. 1553 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,640 Or shortly thereafter, has for council approval. 1554 02:05:08,030 --> 02:05:10,510 Was that eight thousand for three, you said? 1555 02:05:10,730 --> 02:05:14,370 Eight thousand for three, that does not include installation, so. 1556 02:05:14,370 --> 02:05:15,110 Okay, thanks. 1557 02:05:15,670 --> 02:05:16,790 It gets more detail. 1558 02:05:16,850 --> 02:05:19,190 I would appreciate if you bring it back. 1559 02:05:19,990 --> 02:05:23,010 I was even going to get a fancy as slow down, I thank you. 1560 02:05:23,090 --> 02:05:26,770 I just wanted to like the white, the white and black current, 1561 02:05:26,810 --> 02:05:27,270 speed limit. 1562 02:05:27,550 --> 02:05:28,110 What it should be. 1563 02:05:28,110 --> 02:05:29,590 And then above it has the flashing. 1564 02:05:29,850 --> 02:05:32,790 And it just serves flashing at you if you're over it. 1565 02:05:32,790 --> 02:05:35,370 If you're over speed limit, that works for me really well. 1566 02:05:36,910 --> 02:05:39,610 But if there's a slow down on our thank you 1567 02:05:39,610 --> 02:05:41,490 or whatever, and it's not more expensive, 1568 02:05:42,150 --> 02:05:44,990 we can go fancy, but I just want 1569 02:05:44,990 --> 02:05:46,390 to improve the safety coming in. 1570 02:05:47,270 --> 02:05:48,830 And so if you bring those options, 1571 02:05:48,930 --> 02:05:50,570 you're going to have a picture of whatever. 1572 02:05:50,610 --> 02:05:52,870 Yeah, I would like to see some examples 1573 02:05:52,870 --> 02:05:57,250 of what the actual display is, what we're getting for it. 1574 02:05:57,250 --> 02:06:01,570 And I think we've identified five locations around our city. 1575 02:06:01,570 --> 02:06:06,090 So whether that's a couple this year or in three next year, you know, that'll come down to budget, 1576 02:06:06,770 --> 02:06:13,370 but we know we have five, and if we find some can we like, and hopefully we can get that done here in the next year or two. 1577 02:06:15,050 --> 02:06:17,770 All right. Great. I would think we'll get at least address two. 1578 02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,480 Soon with the information that provides them. 1579 02:06:25,020 --> 02:06:27,960 I'll bring it back. The next meeting. I should be able to. 1580 02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:29,800 Thanks. 1581 02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:34,920 The other thing I have is policy and procedure committee meeting is going to hold a second 1582 02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:39,820 meeting on Wednesday, August 19th, to consider suggesting a remedy to the channel as 1583 02:06:39,820 --> 02:06:42,000 a fewters in e-bikes causing captain. 1584 02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:45,920 This could volunteer to provide some further input. 1585 02:06:46,420 --> 02:06:47,880 So we'll be getting together. 1586 02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:50,140 Council pass this. 1587 02:06:50,140 --> 02:07:00,260 the committee at the May 18th Council meeting, the committee directly, but I didn't connect 1588 02:07:00,260 --> 02:07:03,400 the dots to the members of the meeting, so we've got the second meeting to 1589 02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:07,940 in that bring that information back to you on September 8th as well. So 1590 02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:12,960 that is all I've got, Mayor. 1591 02:07:13,340 --> 02:07:20,560 Okay, thank you. Moving on to the report's personnel performance evaluation from the library. 1592 02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:28,460 Mayor, I told Brittany, she didn't need to come for two hours to talk for 30 seconds about this. 1593 02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:35,660 She conducted a library director, Muller, conducting a performance evaluation on Library A to Lisa Wolf. 1594 02:07:36,540 --> 02:07:42,300 Her new way, just 17 and 73 an hour, is within the city's pre-paid plan and budgeted parameters. 1595 02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:46,560 She will be a retroactive to her anniversary in July 10th. 1596 02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:53,340 She also conducted an e-mail performance evaluation on library, Carol Swenson, herniway 1785 1597 02:07:53,340 --> 02:07:54,300 an hour. 1598 02:07:54,620 --> 02:07:58,660 It's also within the city's approved pay plan and budget parameters, and that will take 1599 02:07:58,660 --> 02:08:05,080 effect on the anniversary date of September 13th, and no action required would just pass 1600 02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:05,680 into the information. 1601 02:08:07,340 --> 02:08:08,540 Thank you. 1602 02:08:08,660 --> 02:08:10,720 Any other updates from Council? 1603 02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:12,340 Yes. 1604 02:08:13,180 --> 02:08:15,960 I have the things that I would like to present to Council. 1605 02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:16,940 Thanks, Brian. 1606 02:08:17,420 --> 02:08:22,060 Ask for your guidance and any of the good. 1607 02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:28,740 Regarding the funding of outside sources or entities, what does this pertain to? 1608 02:08:30,140 --> 02:08:37,120 For example, I don't know if there was a way that a nonprofit is a general category. 1609 02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:39,540 There are public and private nonprofits. 1610 02:08:39,540 --> 02:08:47,280 There are nonprofits that are private clubs, not open for this place and the belt 1611 02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:54,700 rapples that we have funded. One of the things that codified law in 1912, the 1612 02:08:54,700 --> 02:09:01,840 Lavin, municipalities may appropriate money from its general fund to promote itself. 1613 02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:05,260 If, in the shallow, 1614 02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:12,700 I didn't have to go to the company, they shall be required to maintain 1615 02:09:12,700 --> 02:09:18,160 the complete records of all the activities and shall provide a certified audit of those 1616 02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:18,540 records. 1617 02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:27,680 If you also look at, for example, this is what Sioux Falls has just recently implemented 1618 02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:28,540 for next year. 1619 02:09:28,540 --> 02:09:34,940 going to be with me. I'll read it very quickly for you. Instead of organizations, essentially 1620 02:09:34,940 --> 02:09:41,400 receiving individual subsidy appropriations, Sioux Falls created the community partner 1621 02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:49,720 program, which uses a competitive RFD request for proposal process. Organizations compete 1622 02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:56,840 for funding to provide services addressing defined city priorities, defined city priorities 1623 02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,800 with standardized evaluation criteria. 1624 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:06,360 We have measurable outcomes, performance indicators, reporting requirements, and ultimate contracts. 1625 02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:18,460 Okay, that's my request to the council in support guidance and for doing to put its boots and begin to this whole thing. 1626 02:10:19,900 --> 02:10:25,640 What I'd like is the council would consider directing administration to review our current 1627 02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:32,840 practices and bring back recommendations for a consistent transparent policy that we can 1628 02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:40,260 be applied equally to all organizations and be in compliance with statutes in South Dakota 1629 02:10:40,260 --> 02:10:41,140 going forward. 1630 02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:48,220 Thus I'd like to request an item, part of the upcoming agenda, to discuss cities policy 1631 02:10:48,220 --> 02:11:02,680 and process for improving taxpayer funds to private nonprofit organizations and all to be addressed prior to any Tony 27 funding distributions. 1632 02:11:03,020 --> 02:11:12,160 So I throw that to the council and ask if you would like this to be on the agenda item to ensure compliance and how we handle this going forward. 1633 02:11:20,090 --> 02:11:26,470 Did you say you want to implement this before that it's a 2027 money that we've just allocated in the budget? 1634 02:11:27,010 --> 02:11:28,230 Did I hear that first? 1635 02:11:28,510 --> 02:11:36,610 I think based on what the administration and council comes up with, I believe we would have to before we pay out any money. 1636 02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:38,390 Why would we have to? 1637 02:11:39,610 --> 02:11:40,890 It's federal and state laws. 1638 02:11:41,610 --> 02:11:45,410 So Dean's deans agreement that we're not in control. 1639 02:11:45,410 --> 02:11:47,570 No, I think I'm asking for research. 1640 02:11:49,070 --> 02:11:53,810 Permission to have in research is because it is a very complicated issue when you're dealing 1641 02:11:53,810 --> 02:12:01,310 because the statute clarifies that money may be appropriated to promote itself, which is 1642 02:12:01,310 --> 02:12:09,310 a very broad term to what that means. It's not a black and white issue when it comes to taxpayer 1643 02:12:09,310 --> 02:12:11,270 funding being given out. 1644 02:12:13,610 --> 02:12:17,110 So what I'm asking is, does it counsel to put it on the agenda so we can 1645 02:12:17,110 --> 02:12:22,110 conversation so I can bring some more information to you guys to discuss whether we 1646 02:12:22,590 --> 02:12:24,850 how we address this in the future. 1647 02:12:26,860 --> 02:12:30,600 And I think it's difficult to say if you have three 1648 02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:36,360 items that you don't feel comfortable with. I think that's appropriate to have legal looking to. 1649 02:12:37,700 --> 02:12:37,720 Yeah. 1650 02:12:40,330 --> 02:12:46,790 Well I 100% think it's on violation of some state law we need to know that. So 1651 02:12:46,790 --> 02:12:54,680 I mean, and that's my no legal interpretation to me. There's two kind of things going on in my head right now. 1652 02:12:55,610 --> 02:13:03,550 One is setting up a policy to be consistent and transparent. And that can happen whether or not there's 1653 02:13:03,550 --> 02:13:10,260 legal issue. Okay, and I'm not opposed to that setting up a more consistent guidelines to do that. 1654 02:13:12,020 --> 02:13:19,420 But I'm like, if we're, if we're in compliance now, and that's a 1655 02:13:19,420 --> 02:13:23,460 Dean question, I don't think we hold up to 2027 money that these 1656 02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:28,660 organizations are, you know, they came in, it's in the budget. They're kind of 1657 02:13:28,660 --> 02:13:32,640 expecting that they're building their budgets. And unless Dean comes back and 1658 02:13:32,640 --> 02:13:36,800 say we're not compliance, I think they get that money. Whether we come up with 1659 02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:41,320 another guideline framework policy that that's that's that's kind of my 1660 02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:45,560 good job. Two different. Yeah agreed and that's step further than that not 1661 02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:50,500 just been we have we have we're part of municipal league they have lawyers and 1662 02:13:50,500 --> 02:13:56,420 stuff I mean that's why you go to the conferences and things like that to make sure 1663 02:13:56,420 --> 02:14:01,780 I think I don't think we're really doing anything outside of what you know the scope of 1664 02:14:01,780 --> 02:14:04,920 what almost all cities are doing but I agree with you if there's something 1665 02:14:06,800 --> 02:14:09,940 I feel we should look at specifically, but I don't mean we don't want to be. 1666 02:14:10,420 --> 02:14:12,820 I'm not a lawyer. I'm not. I'm none of us are. 1667 02:14:12,860 --> 02:14:13,760 And that's what I'm requesting. 1668 02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:17,080 No, not a lawyer, not a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer. 1669 02:14:17,260 --> 02:14:19,220 Not a lawyer. We need to be aware. 1670 02:14:19,980 --> 02:14:24,880 And what I'm going to ask is if the city council would like to put that as an agenda item, 1671 02:14:25,140 --> 02:14:27,520 so that we can become aware of going forward. 1672 02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:31,100 I would lean into our administrator and finance officer as well. 1673 02:14:31,260 --> 02:14:32,640 I'm not just on these. 1674 02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:35,440 Yeah, because I definitely wouldn't have resources 1675 02:14:40,980 --> 02:14:48,730 and I don't know if that takes a motion to give it an item on the agenda or if that's 1676 02:14:52,700 --> 02:14:53,520 okay. 1677 02:14:57,460 --> 02:14:59,800 Okay, I agree with you a little bit Wendy. 1678 02:15:01,170 --> 02:15:17,610 Moving on to the next thing is on the paper is my report. I did have one, but I know it's anymore. That's right, that. Moving on to the exact session, then I guess we'll look for a motion to enter an exact session. 1679 02:15:17,610 --> 02:15:18,430 some of. 1680 02:15:18,690 --> 02:15:20,170 So second second. 1681 02:15:20,750 --> 02:15:24,050 All those on favor of entering into exact session say five 1682 02:15:24,050 --> 02:15:25,330 they both make. 1683 02:15:26,230 --> 02:15:28,210 We are now entering into exact session. 1684 02:15:28,210 --> 02:15:30,610 Exactly session and we will take a break if maybe.