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Madam Clerk, please. Thank you very much. Good evening and

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welcome to the regular council meeting for Monday, October the

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six. 2025. Mayor Harvey, before we call this meeting to

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order, I would just like to mention that this evening's

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regular meeting is a continuation of the meetings of council

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that commenced at 06:00. Today, Mayor Harvey will now start

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the. Meeting with the indigenous land. Acknowledgement. Thank you. Before

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we begin, I would like to acknowledge that. This meeting

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is taking place on the sheer traditional, ancestral and unseated

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territories of the Swasan. Omasquium and other cosilus peoples, we

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extend our appreciation to these first nations for the opportunity

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to hold this meeting here today. Madam Clerk, please. Thank.

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You, worship, if I could have a motion to endorse

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the agenda. Council, please. So moved. Second. All those in

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favor? Any opposed? Carried. Your worship, the next section of

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the agenda is adoption. Of minutes. Item 4.1 are the

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minutes of the September 15, 2025 regular council meeting. Council,

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we receive an adoption of minutes. All those in favor?

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In carrion. You, worship. The next section of the agenda

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is announcements. Thank you. Last week I had the honor,

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along with members of Council of joining twas and first

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nation with members of council for their national date for

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Truth and Reconciliation walk. I want to extend council's gratitude

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to chief Laura Cassidy and the executive council for welcoming

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us to take part in their meaningful ceremony. I also

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had the privilege attending the Battle of Britain ceremony at

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Boundary Bay Airport alongside our delta. MP Minister Jill McKnight.

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Each year this ceremony honors the brief canadian pilots who

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fought in the Battle of Britain in the historic role

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of our boundary b airport as a training site during

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the Second World War. And Saturday members of council myself

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were pleased to attend Ken villages. It takes the village

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gala in support of a new enhanced day program space

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for older adults. Thank you to everyone who contributed to

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this important cause in help bring Ken Village closer to

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achieving its fundraising goal. All of us and council are

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looking forward to next Friday, where we will host our

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first ever dfest right here at the North Delta center

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for the Arts and at the North Delta Recreation. Center.

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This free, family friendly celebration of a creature dj and

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dance performances di decorating in a community Rangoli designs. Attendees

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will be treated to an indoor light show running every

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15 minutes in the gymnasium next door, and we hope

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to see as many families from across Delta join us

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for this. New, exciting community tradition in terms of council.

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Business. Our next regular meeting will take place on Monday,

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October 20 at 07:00 p.m. in the council chamber at

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Delta City hall. Please note city hall and some Adelta's.

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Facilities will be closed on Monday, October 13, for thanksgiving.

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On behalf of council, we wish everyone celebrating in our

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community a very happy Thanksgiving. May your weekend be filled

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with. Gratitude and company of loved ones. I would now

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like to ask council for any additional comments or announcements.

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Councilor Binder, please. Thank you, Ms. Harvey. I have just

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two had the opportunity to attend. With members of council

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staff and the mayor. UBCM. And so last week at

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UBCM, convention, we had the opportunity to meet with the

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agricultural minister, Lana Popum, along with Mle. And Peyton. Mayor

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Harvey, councilors Kruger, Beauver, Joh. Johal, acting city manager Marcy

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Sangret and Tyson Scholfield from our staff. We once again

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stress the importance of the to the ALC to enforce

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compliance of farm structures. Specifically the barns. Also in attendance

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were members of the ALC, including Jennifer Dyson, the commission

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chair. I had the opportunity to speak on behalf of

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the Agriculture Advisory committee that I sit on as vice

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chair with councilor geesh on his chair and express the

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concerns of our local farmers. And our committee with what

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appears to be noncompliant structures. And the need for the

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ALC to enforce their rules, they wholeheartedly agreed. Also explained

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our committee is engaged in a project with staff to

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further define what is a barn. And that it is

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designated for farm use. To equip our staff and sorry

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to further define what is a barn. And what is

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designated to be used for farm equipment. We want to

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work with our staff to actually. Further equip them in

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the permitting process. The ALC applauded our work and stated

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that it was a leading initiative. They also thanked us

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for continuing to monitor the situation as they have limited

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human resources and need the collaboration with the local farming

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community. They committed to continue to work for compliance and

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will keep our staff informed, and it was a privilege

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to know. That. Our committee is actually leading in some

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of this initiative, as per the statements of the land

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commission. So we hope they will continue to do their

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work. And secondly, and very briefly, Delta Council recently agreed

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to seek Fraser Valley Regional Library Board approval to allocate

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up to $750,000 in funding support towards the upcoming Ladder

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Pioneer Library renovation project and the funding came from the

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FVRL's member salary and benefit reserve, which is an investment

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fund. Set aside. For members to apply for capital projects.

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And Delta was granted the $750,000 towards a $900,000 renovation

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and reducing our maximum cost, which has already been reserved

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of approximately $200,000. And that's already in the reserves, so

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we're very happy to announce receiving that grant from the

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FBRL. Reducing. Our fees and our taxpayers costs towards the

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renovation and looking forward to seeing the project completed. Thank

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you. Thank you, councilor Binder. Any further comments? Seeing none,

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Madam Clerk. Thank you, worship. The next section of the

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agenda is items arising from the closed council meeting. Item.

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6.1. At the September 15, 2025 closed meeting, council endorsed

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the public release of the report dated June 24, 2025,

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titled Ladner Waterfront headlease consideration. And that report is included

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in your agenda pack. Package, you worship. The next section

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as bylaws for final adoption. Item 7.1. We have a

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report from the development department regarding final consideration and adoption

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of bylaw number 8514 for a six story apartment building

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on 55 a street. Council move receipt of the memorandum.

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Second. Any comments? All those in favor? I'd like the

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record to show that I'm opposed. I was opposed the

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first. Second and third reading on this project. Councilor Deshaun?

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The same. And councilor Dosange. Thank you. and it's carried

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clarity, and I'd like to now. Move that bylaw number

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8514 be finally considered and adopted. All those in favor?

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Opposed. And carried. Thank you, worship. The next section of

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the agenda is item is 7.2, which is a. Report

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from the development department regarding final consideration and adoption of

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bylaw number 85216, story. Mixed use apartment zones. Council move

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receipt of the memorandum. Second. Discussion, seeing none. All those

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in favor? Is there anybody opposed? And carried. The bylaw,

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please. And move the recommendation to receive the information and

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that bylaw number 8521 be finally considered. And adopted. All

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those in favor? And Carrie. Worship. Item 7.3. You have

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a report from the development department regarding final consideration and

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adoption. Of bylaw number 8496, civic institutional building height zoning

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amendment. Council, please. We received the memorandum. Second, any discussion.

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Call the question. All those in favor? Any opposed and

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carried reading the bylaw, please move the bylaw number 8496

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be finally considered and adopted second council. All those in

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favor, any opposed. Your worship. Item 7.4 is a report

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from the finance department. Regarding final consideration and adoption. Of

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bylaw number 8560 2017, amendment number 8527 2025. Development cost

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charges council, please. We received a memorandum. Any

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discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor? Any opposed? Carried

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reading of the bylaw, please move. That bylaw number 7560

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2017 amendment by law number 8527-2025 be finally considered and

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adopted all those in favor. And posed and carry. Your

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worship. Item 7.5. You have a report from the finance

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department regarding final consideration and. Adoption of bylaw number 8515,

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consolidated fees and charges. Council move receipt of the memorandum.

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Second. Is there any discussion, Mr. Quick one? Councilor Krueger,

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please. Yeah, just a quick. Question through you to staff.

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I just want to confirm that as per direction from

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council at the last meeting that the proposed fees for

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sidewalk. Cafes and restaurants will not be proceeding. That's correct,

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Councilor Kruger. And through you. Mayor. Mayor Harvey, that was

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council's direction. We have not been charging the fees for

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patios, and we will continue through the coming seasons to

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not charge. Thank you very much. Thank you. Question all

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those in favor and carried reading of the bylaw. I

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move that. Bylaw number 8515 be finally considered and adopted.

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Second. All those in favor and carried. Thank you, worship.

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Item 7.6 is a report from the finance department. Regarding

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final consideration and. Adoption of bylaw number 8526, permissive tax

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exemptions. Move receipt. Any discussion? Seeing? None. I'll call the

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question. All those in favor? Any opposed and carried reading

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of the bylaw, please. That bylaw number 85 26 be

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finally considered and adopted. All those in favor, any opposed

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and carried. Your worship. The next item of business is

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7.7 which is a report from the corporate services department

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regarding final consideration and adoption of Mobile food and beverage

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Vendor program bylaws. Council will proceed to the memorandum. Any

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discussion. See none. I'll call the question. All those in

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favor? Any opposed? Carried reading of the bylaws, please, that

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highways bylaw amendment number 8415 2025 be finally considered and

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adopted. All those in favor and carried. That business license.

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By law, amendment number 8425 2025 be finally considered and

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adopted. All those has been seconded. All those in favor?

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And Carrie. Your worship item. 8.1 under the section of

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bylaws for 1st, second and third reading. You have a

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report from the development department regarding proposed prezoning of portions

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of 72 Avenue corridor. Council, please. Move adoption of the

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recommendation. Second. Is there any discussion, Councilor Geeshan? Thank you,

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Mayor Harvey. Thank you, staff, for the report. Just a

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quick comment question. There was an email written in. It's

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at the back of the package, just with a question

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on if a current home built under the new zoning

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gets destroyed by a fire or flood or other disaster.

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What recourse does the city have and would the property

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owner be able to rebuild in its current single family

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home. And just clarity on that question. Thanks. Ms. Sangrid,

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please. Thank you. I'm going to ask Ms. Mayhew to

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respond. On this one and her staff have looked into

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this with respect to the provisions in the Local Government

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Act. Thank you. And we did get back to the

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letter writer that received that correspondence from, and so these

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events in terms of, like, a fire or complete loss

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of building are extremely rare, but in those circumstances and

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something that that does happen. Staff do work with the

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individual property owners to ensure that they are able to

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rebuild a home. If that is their desire. These cases

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are few and far between, and as Ms. Sangrett mentioned,

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there's even the protections in local government act in terms

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of a loss of a structure and what the preexisting

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prezoning rights would be. Any further discussion. Councilor Kruger, please.

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this, topic. I would not support prezoning in other parts

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of our community. But 72nd continues to be a unique

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situation going back to the time of Mayor Jackson and

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policies that were set under her counsel in terms of

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trying to get the driveways off of 72nd, which continues

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to be first and foremost a public safety issue. We've

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just finished. Many years worth of improvements on 72nd, going

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from two lanes to four lanes, which has helped but

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has not even come close to solving the problem of

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congestion on 72nd. But long term we know when we're

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looking over the next 10, 20, 30 years, we have

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to get the driveways off of 72nd. It's not an

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appropriate use given the traffic that we're contin. Continuing to

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see on that corridor we've seen with the projects that

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we have approved being able to move the vehicle egress.

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To the back of the properties, which creates a much

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safer and better situation for traffic flow. We just can't

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have people rebuilding brand new, multimillion dollar, single family homes

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on those properties and really sterilizing them for the next

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20 plus years. So in this particular case, I do

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support it. It's a. Continuation of direction that was set

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many years ago by Mayor Jackson and her counsel. And

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I think it's serving us well. Thank you. Thank you.

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Anything for further comments, it is time. Time? That is

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happening. All those in favor? Any opposed? And carry readings,

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please. No readings for these bylaws. Sorry for a second

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and third. Thank you. Your worship. Item 8.2 is a

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report from the development department regarding rezoning for two lot

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subdivision at 6632 Lambert Crescent. Council move adoption of the

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recommendations. Second. Is there any discussion? Seeing none. All those

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in favor? Any opposed and carried? Your worship. Item 8.3

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is a report by the Development department regarding rezoning for

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two lot subdivision at 6456. Cabal do crescent. Council, please.

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Move the adoption of the recommendation. It's been seconded. Any

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discussion? Yes. Councilor Geishawn, please. Thank you. Mayor Harvey, just

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a quick question. On parking requirements for, I suppose just

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in general for the rezoning of two lot subdivisions. With

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duplex or fourplex or suites. Just to go over. What's

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the onsite parking requirements are? With these new. Plexus that

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we are seeing pop up. Thank you. So, in general,

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parking requirements are one space that's required per unit, and

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that's off street parking. The one exception is that if

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the units are extremely small, so if they're 33 m².

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Or less. So about 352 sqft. Then they're exempt from

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providing a parking space for those very small accessory dwelling

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units. We were also prevented from requiring parking requirements within

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400 meters of frequent transit, which is the Scott Road

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corridor in north Delta. Any further discussion? Seeing none, I'll

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call the question. All those in favor? Is there any?

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Opposed and carried. Your worship. The next time of business

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is 8.4, which is a report from the development. Department

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regarding rezoning for conversion of commercial area to residential area.

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At 4872 Delta Street. Council like to move adoption of

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alternative one. Second. Anything. There's comments. Councilor Kruger,

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please. Thank you. I'd like to add Amendment C. To

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alternative one. The amendment reads that the bylaw be amended

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to allow all allowable uses in the c one l

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core commercial ladner zone. Second or to the amendment? Second.

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Any discussion on the amendment. Seeing none. I'll call the

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question on the amendment only. All those in favor is

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there. Any opposed? Councilor Geishan is opposed. Counselor Descinch is

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opposed, and I'm opposed. Question on the motion. Motion carries.

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And now, on the motion, as amended. Sorry, council. Sorry.

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This is discussion on the main motion. It is now.

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Okay? Yes. Motion is amended. Thank you. Pardon? Sorry. Just

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discussion on this main motion. I was looking to do.

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Alternative to which would be to deny this. I just

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read briefly that it's very precedent setting. I don't know

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if staff want to go over a little bit of

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the timeline here that we see on page two of

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five. Of when things are done. Unpermitted and what kind

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of precedent that's sitting. Nervous about staff. Also explaining. Staff

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concerns regarding safety, livability, functionality for the proposed conversion of

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portion of commercial areas into two residential dwelling units. I

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get nervous. I don't know if there's windows in these

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units. There's. Just a couple big flags I'm seeing here,

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so I'm not sure. Why we should allow this to

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go forward. But those are my thoughts. Thank you. Any

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further discussion? Seeing none. I'll call the question on alternative

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one motion. All those in favor? Is there any opposed?

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And it carries. Your worship. The next section of the

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agenda is administrative report item 9.1. You have a report

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from the development department regarding Tuasan Town center mall application

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update, and I move as mayor. Option two. The option

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is a. That application LU 09754 be denied b. That

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the applicant be advised. That any future proposals will require

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a new application. And review process. Could I have a

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seconder, please? Is there any discussion? Councilor Bouvert.

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yeah i'll be first to speak The application, which. Is

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obviously. Stirred up a lot of opinion. In south Delta.

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We had a previous application which everyone is very aware

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of. That provided redevelopment of the entire site. With buildings

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as high as 24 stories. And. That. Was not acceptable.

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This new application, though I would certainly. Is an improvement.

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say Unfortunately, in a couple of areas, it still misses

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the mark for me. First and foremost, and I'm only

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going to speak about a couple of things. That are

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important. The ocp certainly. Calls if the project is going

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to be higher. Than six stories for a substantial community

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amenity. and in my opinion This particular proposal has not

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met that threshold. Although the community certainly. Seemed to

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would much rather have had some sort of health care

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facility, urgent care center, something of that kind over a

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library which was originally proposed. This project. Does not actually,

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at this point, provide for that. It provides a contribution

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of a building space to the Delta Hospital Foundation. The

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Alta Hospital foundation has written a letter that it would

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be used for health purposes. Which I do think is

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fantastic, but it does not substantively provide a community amenity

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that's tangible or any sort of time frame. Or exactly

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what that would be. And I know that it's probably

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something that. 's going to take a lot of time.

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To be able to. Make official. But at this point,

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It's not a community amenity. And therefore doesn't meet that

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part of the OCP. And then secondly. I'm just disappointed

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that. The revised. Does not encompass the

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entire site. And I think that's important. The town center

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mall is exactly. That is the town center. It's the

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hub. It's where everybody comes together in that town at

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twelve and 56, and I don't. Think. That it should

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be done. In sort of a piecemeal process. I think

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that the whole site, and that was one thing that.

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I was very happy with. In the first iteration was

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the fact that it was the whole site. And this

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time. It is not. I think.

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Amongst everyone is that. That town center mall does need

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to be redeveloped. I don't think that that's. A real

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question. And all of the comments that I have heard.

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And I can tell you in the last. Several weeks

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in my office. I've had. Numbers. Too many to count

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of visitors. With their thoughts. And there isn't one person

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that has said, oh, no, I don't. Want it developed.

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I want it to just stay the same. But I

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think, as I said in the previous meeting, When the

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original iteration didn't go forward that I said, there's going

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to have to be compromise here by everyone. By the

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people. By the applicant and by the city. And though

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I think. This project does provide a lot of. That.

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I still think there's a little bit that needs to

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go. A little further. It is my hope. That the

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applicant. Can stick with this. And that we can find

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something that. I know we're not going to find something

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that works for everyone. I'm not. That naive. But I

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just think that. It still needs a little bit more

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refinement. So those are my comments, and I'm going to

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leave it there. Thank you. Thank you. Further comments from

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council. Councilor binder. Yeah. Thank you, my Harvey. Needless to

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say, I wrestled with. This as well. As I'm sure

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many of my colleagues on council have as well. Century

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has proven to be an excellent developer. They've delivered many

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wonderful projects throughout all of Metro Vancouver. They've also proven

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to be. an excellent community partner contributing to

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many of our nonprofit Charities and events and everything else.

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And so they've proven themselves to be. A good partner

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in Tuasin and for all of Delta. When the OCP

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was being debated. With this council. I made comments that

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I struggled with one part of it that said, which

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is going to be somewhat similar to what councilor Bravair

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said. A significant community amenity, and I actually didn't want

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it to be significant. I wanted it to be more

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defined. And I was somewhat challenged, saying, well, if it's

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too prescriptive perhaps then you stifle the creativity or the

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opportunity for a developer to come. Forward. So I thought,

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okay, let's see what can come forward. With that community

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amenity contribution to get the higher density. The applicant certainly

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listened to the community and came forward with something that

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was asked by the community. In the form of a

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healthcare clinic. Versus the original option, which was a library.

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I think the challenge for. This applicant, which we're all

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seeing, and I think. We're just going to be a

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tough conversation coming up in this meeting. Is. This actually

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is somewhat of the expectation of Fraser health stepping forward.

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And so far we're struggling a little bit with Fraser

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health and with the province. When it comes to delivering

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on health care. So I believe that there may be

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a number somewhere around the tune of $6 million as

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a contribution from this proponent from century providing this facility.

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To the hospital foundation, which I think is extraordinary. And

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I think takes a step forward in meeting that contribution.

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But I just don't have confidence that we're going to

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actually have that space. Occupied in a reasonable period of

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time, which means. The amenity just won't be there. And

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that's one of the things I really struggled with on

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this. I appreciate all the work that the applicant has

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put forward to bring this forward. Echoing the words of

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Councilor Beauver. I deeply hope that there will be another

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opportunity for us to look at this. Looking at more

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of that compromise, but I also understand that. It's going

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to be difficult for century to invest more time and

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money on it in the present because. There's been a

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lot put forward of which we're grateful for. But I'm

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stuck on that amenity component. And those are my comments.

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Thank you for the comments from council, councilor Geesha. Thank

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you, Mayor Harvey. And, yeah, I just want to thank

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century group for taking this project back with the hopes.

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With my hopes of bringing the community a little closer

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together on this. It's been mentioned. I think we can

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all agree that the town center does need development, and

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I don't. Think anyone disagrees with that. And it's such

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an opportunity. And I can see glimmers of it here

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with public spaces. Brought somebody to shops, obviously more homes

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for future Deltans. Or existing. Deltans. And an opportunity for

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a meaningful. Community amenity, but for me. It's too much.

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It's still too tall. It's too out of scale for

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the future of the Tuasin that I see and want

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to be a part of here. And not to mention

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it's just a little unknown. Without. Having on paper here

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what the rest of the site will look like. That

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would be left up to future councils or future. Thing.

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Markets. Just everything is very volatile, of course. If we

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wait. But those are my thoughts there, and I hope

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the applicant can still come forward with something else. And

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whatever happens with this proposal. I am at least hopeful

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century group will put in the same care and foresight

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into town. Center. As they have done with other projects,

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and I have no doubt that it would feel vibrant

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and look good and be a positive new spot for

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the town, but I can't get on. Board. Currently, with

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this height and still two out of place. So thank

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you. Those are my comments. Thank you. Further comments from

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council. Yes, please. I just want to begin by acknowledging

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the significant work that has gone into the proposal. The

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proponent clearly made an effort to respond to community feedback,

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reducing the number of dwellings. Exploring the inclusion of an

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urgent care facility and making other meaningful adjustments along the

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way at the same time. I fully recognize that members

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of the community have raised legitimate concerns about the height,

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traffic and the overall fit within the neighborhood. Those are

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important considerations that deserve to be heard and carefully reviewed

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as well. I also understand. There are valid questions about

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Fraser Health's potential involvement. And whether an urgent care center

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could ultimately. Be staffed and operated, and those are for

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fair points as well. That said, I do believe that

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there would have been value in allowing the project to

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continue through the standard process to receive the full staff

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report, consider all the details and possible provisions, and have

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further discussions with Fraser health before reaching a final conclusion.

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There's no question that the site definitely needs revitalization and

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investment based on the comments shared here at the table.

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I don't see that moving forward at this time. But

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as I mentioned in the previous public engagement meeting, I

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hope century sticks with it. I do firmly believe that

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they are the right partner for this. Site. Thank you.

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Councilor Jose. Thank you, Mayor Harvey. Community. Raised few concern,

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which I'm totally agree with, that the height and scales

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concerns are traffic. Road impact. then infrastructure lack of infrastructures

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and amenities Most important. This project is not a complete

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project. And also. The engagement from public the voice of

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a peoples. It's a very clear and loud listening. To

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them. Are you also going? With the option. Too. Thank

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you, Councilor Kruger. Thank you. Lots already been said. I'll

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try not to repeat comments. I think going back to.

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The need. There will be a need to replace the

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town center mall. Tossin deserves a proper town center. We

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don't have a proper town center right now. There is

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no character to Wasson's town center, which is essentially a

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collection of four giant asphalt parking lots. To Wasan deserves

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a true, vibrant community center where we can have things

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like. Expanded restaurant patios and coffee shops and public gatherings

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and farmers markets and outdoor movie nights. We don't have

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a space that's set up for that right now. To

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wasan needs it. And I hope that we can eventually

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arrive at a place where we can deliver that for

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the community of Tawas. As has been stated, I also

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have severe concerns about Fraser Health's ability. In a really

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constrained environment to deliver on the financial promise of an

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urgent care center. In that location. Recent events have not

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helped my confidence as far as that is concerned. So

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that is a challenge as far as the amenity is

466
00:39:51,908 --> 00:39:58,137
concerned. Others have already spoken to community feedback. That has

467
00:39:58,137 --> 00:40:02,697
been continued to come in with regards to height, density,

468
00:40:02,697 --> 00:40:07,873
traffic, et cetera. But ultimately, I hope this is the

469
00:40:07,873 --> 00:40:10,473
beginning of a conversation, not the end of a conversation.

470
00:40:11,648 --> 00:40:15,608
It is a dream that I think, in speaking with

471
00:40:15,608 --> 00:40:18,488
hundreds, if not thousands of toast and residents. Through this

472
00:40:18,488 --> 00:40:22,528
process over the last year that 95, if not 99%,

473
00:40:23,867 --> 00:40:28,987
Of Tuasin Resident share is to have a really exciting

474
00:40:28,987 --> 00:40:34,091
eventual redevelopment to that space that includes all those. Activities

475
00:40:34,091 --> 00:40:36,931
that I mentioned earlier and of course, needed housing on

476
00:40:36,931 --> 00:40:40,531
top. So I hope the conversation can continue, but I

477
00:40:40,531 --> 00:40:45,357
will also be supporting option two. Thank you. Thank you.

478
00:40:47,271 --> 00:40:49,751
I'd first like to state that as mayor, I fully

479
00:40:49,751 --> 00:40:52,191
understand that my role is to represent the interests of

480
00:40:52,191 --> 00:40:56,551
Delta residents and businesses. My responsibility is to listen to

481
00:40:56,551 --> 00:41:01,266
their concerns on this. Application. Evaluate the issues objectively and

482
00:41:01,266 --> 00:41:03,986
make a decision that reflects the best interests of our

483
00:41:03,986 --> 00:41:07,669
community. In reviewing the large number of emails sent to

484
00:41:07,669 --> 00:41:12,043
me recently regarding this application. And many conversations with members

485
00:41:12,043 --> 00:41:16,013
of our community. It is apparent. That our community is

486
00:41:16,013 --> 00:41:19,413
not against redevelopment of the town center mall, but they

487
00:41:19,413 --> 00:41:23,173
do have a strong desire to see development, focus on

488
00:41:23,173 --> 00:41:26,453
maintaining what our twas and community has always been a

489
00:41:26,453 --> 00:41:31,053
farming and seaside town for families and seniors. They expect.

490
00:41:34,051 --> 00:41:37,571
reasonable appropriate growth in development that does not include towers

491
00:41:37,571 --> 00:41:39,700
and conforms to our official community plan Development that will

492
00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,820
not stress the city's infrastructure that is servicing the site,

493
00:41:42,820 --> 00:41:47,180
including 56th street. And 12th Avenue development that will also

494
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:50,620
take into consideration the increase in traffic from the TwAs's.

495
00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:54,820
First nations residential development, which we are affecting us now

496
00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:57,940
and the already approved for construction in Tosson six story

497
00:41:57,940 --> 00:42:03,921
apartments. And townhouses. Our community expects to know exactly what

498
00:42:03,921 --> 00:42:08,001
is proposed for the entire property. Not segments. Our city

499
00:42:08,001 --> 00:42:11,241
has had great success in working with the development community

500
00:42:11,241 --> 00:42:15,601
on master planned large community developments, including Sunstone here in

501
00:42:15,601 --> 00:42:20,441
north Delta to Wassen Springs. In recently Southlands, I cannot

502
00:42:20,441 --> 00:42:23,625
support an. Application that does not reflect the complete buildout

503
00:42:23,625 --> 00:42:26,819
of a development site. A wooden century group to come

504
00:42:26,819 --> 00:42:30,499
back with a proposal that demonstrates they are truly listening

505
00:42:30,499 --> 00:42:33,868
to the concerns of our community. They have successfully done

506
00:42:33,868 --> 00:42:37,708
this before with the Southlands, which now is strongly supported

507
00:42:37,708 --> 00:42:41,388
by residents. I would also request century group to look

508
00:42:41,388 --> 00:42:46,068
at recent developments locally, such as Dunderave enableside in West

509
00:42:46,068 --> 00:42:50,388
Vancouver, in Edgemont Village in north Vancouver. All of these

510
00:42:50,388 --> 00:42:54,228
developments include thoughtful mixes of retail and strata buildings that

511
00:42:54,228 --> 00:42:57,548
are not high rises. Each of these communities has created

512
00:42:57,548 --> 00:43:00,998
modern examples of mixed use while maintaining. Their original sense

513
00:43:00,998 --> 00:43:04,238
of history and field. Now, for the record, I cannot

514
00:43:04,238 --> 00:43:06,758
support this application and will be voting in favor of

515
00:43:06,758 --> 00:43:12,198
recommendation to that states a, that the application LU 9754

516
00:43:12,198 --> 00:43:15,278
be denied. And b that the applicant be advised that

517
00:43:15,278 --> 00:43:18,438
any future proposals will require a new application in a

518
00:43:18,438 --> 00:43:21,827
new review process. I'll now turn to council to call

519
00:43:21,827 --> 00:43:26,143
the question. All those in favor? Of voting for recommendation.

520
00:43:27,616 --> 00:43:33,462
Too. Is there any opposed and carried? And madam clerk.

521
00:43:34,755 --> 00:43:39,488
I also vote in favor. Madam clerk. Thank you very

522
00:43:39,488 --> 00:43:44,204
much for worship. Mayor Harvey, the next item of business

523
00:43:44,204 --> 00:43:47,924
on the agenda is the draft 2026 financial plan and

524
00:43:47,924 --> 00:43:57,040
next steps. And we have. a presentation from the general

525
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:05,461
manager of finance Mr. Chan, this is probably the largest

526
00:44:05,461 --> 00:44:09,181
audience you've had or ever producing a budget. Yeah. I'm

527
00:44:09,181 --> 00:44:16,379
very nervous, your worship. Please proceed. Good evening, your worship

528
00:44:16,379 --> 00:44:19,859
and members of council. Tonight I'll be presenting a high

529
00:44:19,859 --> 00:44:24,619
level overview. Of the Draft 2026 financial plan, as well

530
00:44:24,619 --> 00:44:27,739
as outlining the upcoming public consultation process.

531
00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:39,413
The 2026 budget process began in February with the Community

532
00:44:39,413 --> 00:44:44,213
Satisfaction Survey, which was presented to council in May. These

533
00:44:44,213 --> 00:44:49,413
results help guide the city's 2026 budget priorities. In May.

534
00:44:51,140 --> 00:44:54,140
Financial plan guidelines were released to departments based on the

535
00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:58,380
community feedback and council's goals and priorities. Departmental plans were

536
00:44:58,380 --> 00:45:03,983
submitted in July. And incorporated into the 2026 draft budget.

537
00:45:05,688 --> 00:45:08,808
Tonight. We are seeking council's direction to proceed with public

538
00:45:08,808 --> 00:45:15,195
consultation from October 7 to the 30th. Council budget workshops

539
00:45:15,195 --> 00:45:19,755
are scheduled for October 29 and 30th, with public open

540
00:45:19,755 --> 00:45:23,840
houses held prior to each workshop. The open houses will

541
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,960
provide opportunities for residents to engage with staff and learn

542
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,019
more about the draft 2026 budget. During the council budget

543
00:45:33,019 --> 00:45:38,579
workshops, staff will provide detailed presentations on the operating and

544
00:45:38,579 --> 00:45:45,414
capital plans following the consultation and workshops. The. Bylads. Are

545
00:45:45,414 --> 00:45:48,654
anticipated to be presented to council in November and December

546
00:45:48,654 --> 00:45:54,469
for consideration and adoption. The community satisfaction survey was conducted

547
00:45:54,469 --> 00:46:03,321
February 13 to March 16. And the results indicated that

548
00:46:03,321 --> 00:46:06,721
82% of residents felt that they received fair to very

549
00:46:06,721 --> 00:46:11,681
good value. On tax dollars. The top three emerging issues

550
00:46:11,681 --> 00:46:17,694
priorities identified included road improvement and traffic management. Population growth

551
00:46:17,694 --> 00:46:21,054
and the impact to the community, as well as investment

552
00:46:21,054 --> 00:46:25,254
in recreation facilities and community events. So the survey results

553
00:46:25,254 --> 00:46:30,945
were used to prepare the 2026 budget. Delta's financial plan

554
00:46:30,945 --> 00:46:35,625
has been developed in a pretty challenging environment marked by

555
00:46:35,625 --> 00:46:44,041
rising. Service delivery costs and increasing community expectations for expanded

556
00:46:44,041 --> 00:46:49,291
and enhanced services. The city continues to face significant external

557
00:46:49,291 --> 00:46:53,571
pressures, including costs passed on by external agencies such as

558
00:46:53,571 --> 00:47:00,559
ECom as well as just broader econom. Economic uncertainties. Which

559
00:47:00,559 --> 00:47:05,939
include tariffs and other cost drivers affecting our operations. Delta

560
00:47:05,939 --> 00:47:12,608
also faces ongoing. infrastructure demands The city manages over $4

561
00:47:12,608 --> 00:47:16,248
billion in assets, so that includes all our roads, parks,

562
00:47:16,248 --> 00:47:20,848
infrastructure, utility systems and buildings. So the city continues to

563
00:47:20,848 --> 00:47:23,968
make it a priority to invest in asset renewal, to

564
00:47:23,968 --> 00:47:27,608
ensure that we have a sustainable delivery of central services

565
00:47:27,608 --> 00:47:32,276
for our residents and businesses. In environment of higher growth

566
00:47:32,276 --> 00:47:38,578
as well as increased cost. Despite the ongoing financial pressures,

567
00:47:38,578 --> 00:47:42,178
the city remains committed to responsible budgeting and maintaining a

568
00:47:42,178 --> 00:47:52,130
strong fiscal position. This includes aligning our resources with council's

569
00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:57,330
goals and community's expectations with a key focus on roads,

570
00:47:57,330 --> 00:48:03,151
recreation and protective services. As well in terms of operational

571
00:48:03,151 --> 00:48:09,631
efficiencies, leveraging technology enhancements, which includes improvements to our virtual

572
00:48:09,631 --> 00:48:14,231
and online services to streamline operations and enhance service delivery

573
00:48:14,231 --> 00:48:20,884
as well. Conducting regular reviews over our procurement investment. And

574
00:48:20,884 --> 00:48:26,188
cash management strategies to strengthen. Our financial performance and identify

575
00:48:26,188 --> 00:48:35,496
savings. Staff are actively pursuing external grants. Recently. We've been

576
00:48:35,496 --> 00:48:40,376
awarded a $14.2 million housing accelerator fund grant as well

577
00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:45,736
as a 7.6 million disaster mitigation adoption fund grant, also

578
00:48:45,736 --> 00:48:50,070
ensuring that the city's. Fees and charges remain. Aligned with

579
00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:53,350
our regional median and reflect the true cost of service

580
00:48:53,350 --> 00:49:02,996
delivery. The 2026 draft financial plan proposes a 2.9% property

581
00:49:02,996 --> 00:49:07,236
tax increase, which is equivalent to about $90 per year,

582
00:49:07,236 --> 00:49:12,894
or $8 per month for a typical home. There's no

583
00:49:12,894 --> 00:49:18,854
additional capital levy proposed in this year's budget for utilities.

584
00:49:18,854 --> 00:49:23,854
Charges are proposed to rise by 3.2%, or approximately $4

585
00:49:23,854 --> 00:49:27,494
per month. So in total, the combined increase in taxes

586
00:49:27,494 --> 00:49:30,774
and utilities for a typical household is $12 per month.

587
00:49:32,312 --> 00:49:40,561
The draft financial plan totals 539,000,000. This consists of three

588
00:49:40,561 --> 00:49:45,601
components. There's the general operating portion, which funds our core

589
00:49:45,601 --> 00:49:49,521
services, such as our police, our fire, engineering, parks and

590
00:49:49,521 --> 00:49:54,581
development areas. It's important to note that protective services accounts

591
00:49:54,581 --> 00:49:59,634
for 40% of this budget. As well. Utilities operating is

592
00:49:59,634 --> 00:50:02,634
71 million, and that funds all our water, sewer and

593
00:50:02,634 --> 00:50:06,585
solid waste programs. And then our capital plan makes up

594
00:50:06,585 --> 00:50:11,225
the balance, up 200 million, which is maintaining and improving

595
00:50:11,225 --> 00:50:15,842
and building our new infrastructure. This includes new capital projects

596
00:50:15,842 --> 00:50:25,710
as well as our in progress projects. The

597
00:50:25,710 --> 00:50:30,270
operating budget. Highlights include maintaining our core services and supporting

598
00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:35,184
areas of growth and community demand. So the budget includes

599
00:50:35,184 --> 00:50:41,434
funding for resources for our growing recreation demand. As well

600
00:50:41,434 --> 00:50:45,158
as dedicated funding for. Enhanced community events such as our

601
00:50:45,158 --> 00:50:51,628
Canada Day festivals, luminary festival. ladders lights and loaders and

602
00:50:51,628 --> 00:50:55,034
other place making initiatives As well as ongoing funding for

603
00:50:55,034 --> 00:50:59,206
provincial housing requirements. Our permits of tax exemptions and community

604
00:50:59,206 --> 00:51:04,305
grants. Protective services includes continued support for our fire and

605
00:51:04,305 --> 00:51:10,232
police, including a 10% increase in our ECom levies. And

606
00:51:10,232 --> 00:51:16,923
finally in asset management resources for proactive. Infrastructure management, which

607
00:51:16,923 --> 00:51:21,563
includes funding for building and condition building condition assessments as

608
00:51:21,563 --> 00:51:25,783
well as preventative maintenance. In terms of our utilities operating

609
00:51:25,783 --> 00:51:34,730
plan, funds are water, sewer and solid waste programs. 60%

610
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:37,770
of our costs for water and sewer is Metro Vancouver,

611
00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:42,839
which supplies our water and sewage. Treatment. Also includes funding

612
00:51:42,839 --> 00:51:47,166
for our city infrastructure maintenance and operations. And our solid

613
00:51:47,166 --> 00:51:50,806
waste program includes services for garbage, green waste and recycling.

614
00:51:52,509 --> 00:51:57,909
In terms of capital projects in the budget. Highlights include.

615
00:52:01,645 --> 00:52:06,365
Several roads and traffic projects which focus on paving, signal

616
00:52:06,365 --> 00:52:10,845
upgrades, crosswalk improvements and new transit infrastructure. Such as shelters

617
00:52:10,845 --> 00:52:15,935
and benches throughout delta. A focus on our industrial areas,

618
00:52:15,935 --> 00:52:19,895
which includes funding for cycling networks, sidewalks and transit upgrades

619
00:52:19,895 --> 00:52:26,836
in Tilbury and Anisys Island. A focus on recreation. Facilities,

620
00:52:26,836 --> 00:52:31,527
including a major. Mechanical upgrades at the Tilbury Ice arena,

621
00:52:31,527 --> 00:52:35,367
new field houses at Mackey and Hawthorne parks as well

622
00:52:35,367 --> 00:52:38,727
as a design for a new pickleball courts at Denison

623
00:52:38,727 --> 00:52:44,737
Park. The capital plan also includes drainage and agricultural projects,

624
00:52:44,737 --> 00:52:49,897
including 84th street pump station, 88 street rural road upgrades

625
00:52:49,897 --> 00:52:55,691
and irrigation improvements to support our farming community. And finally,

626
00:52:55,691 --> 00:53:01,734
our multi year major projects include. Our windscale aquatic and

627
00:53:01,734 --> 00:53:09,066
fitness center rebuild project. Annieville park upgrades Laudner waterfront. Revitalization

628
00:53:09,066 --> 00:53:14,174
as well as Kwami Park. Improvements, which will include some

629
00:53:14,174 --> 00:53:19,479
new ball diamonds. Delta remains one of the most affordable

630
00:53:19,479 --> 00:53:24,399
municipalities in the region. So in 2025, a typical household

631
00:53:24,399 --> 00:53:29,479
paid 4900 in municipal taxes and utilities compared to a

632
00:53:29,479 --> 00:53:31,439
regional median of 5600.

633
00:53:41,019 --> 00:53:47,057
For businesses. Adelta's business to residential tax ratio. Is the

634
00:53:47,057 --> 00:53:51,177
lowest in the region at 1.93 compared to the median

635
00:53:51,177 --> 00:53:58,112
of 2.95. So, in summary, the draft 2026 financial plan

636
00:53:58,112 --> 00:54:06,246
proposes a 2.9% property tax increase. Proposes a 3.2% utility

637
00:54:06,246 --> 00:54:11,086
rate increase. Together, this equates to about $12. Per month

638
00:54:11,086 --> 00:54:16,882
or $141 annually. Public engagement will run from October 7

639
00:54:16,882 --> 00:54:21,002
to the 30th. This will include advertising in local media

640
00:54:21,002 --> 00:54:25,202
and digital channels. The let's Talk Delta webpage with survey

641
00:54:25,202 --> 00:54:30,762
and feedback tools. Public open houses on October 29 and

642
00:54:30,762 --> 00:54:37,903
30. Th before council workshops and also engagement with the

643
00:54:37,903 --> 00:54:41,866
business community. And this feedback will be summarized and presented

644
00:54:41,866 --> 00:54:51,150
to council. so subject to council's approval tonight Public consultation

645
00:54:51,150 --> 00:54:55,270
will begin on October 7 to the 30th. And as

646
00:54:55,270 --> 00:55:00,260
mentioned, The open houses and the workshops will follow. And

647
00:55:00,260 --> 00:55:04,980
then the bylaws will proceed after November. 17 and December

648
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:09,380
eigth. And this concludes my presentation. Thank you. Thank you,

649
00:55:09,380 --> 00:55:12,300
Mr. Jan. And just a reminder that we're not here

650
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,300
to approve the budget tonight. Of course, but the recommendations

651
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:18,377
are a that the draft 2020. Six financial plan be

652
00:55:18,377 --> 00:55:22,509
received for information. Indeed, as staff proceed with public consultation

653
00:55:22,509 --> 00:55:25,509
on the draft 2026 financial plan, could somebody move the

654
00:55:25,509 --> 00:55:30,011
recommendation. So moved. Second, is there any further discussion? Councilor

655
00:55:30,011 --> 00:55:33,391
Kruger. Thanks. And this is the second year we've offered

656
00:55:33,391 --> 00:55:35,991
the open houses for the budget planning. Workshop, which I

657
00:55:35,991 --> 00:55:38,191
think has worked really well in terms of just providing.

658
00:55:39,511 --> 00:55:42,111
Additional opportunity for community members to engage. How are we

659
00:55:42,111 --> 00:55:45,751
advertising? Can you just remind me how we're advertising the

660
00:55:45,751 --> 00:55:48,311
open houses to make sure residents are aware of the

661
00:55:48,311 --> 00:55:55,232
opportunity. Mr. Chat. Three year worship to Councilor Cougar. We're

662
00:55:55,232 --> 00:56:00,678
using. Various channels to advertise, including in our local media,

663
00:56:00,678 --> 00:56:03,838
digital channels. It's on our website as well as the

664
00:56:03,838 --> 00:56:09,624
let's talk delta. Website. Looking forward to the discussion. Thank

665
00:56:09,624 --> 00:56:14,473
you. Further comments from council. I just like to thank

666
00:56:14,473 --> 00:56:16,953
you, Mr. Chan, and your wonderful staff. This is a

667
00:56:16,953 --> 00:56:19,593
tremendous amount of work. And I really appreciate and I

668
00:56:19,593 --> 00:56:21,633
know, counsel those two, that you come in with a

669
00:56:21,633 --> 00:56:24,984
realistic number. Take in consideration how tough it is out

670
00:56:24,984 --> 00:56:27,584
there for a lot of families right now and businesses

671
00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:29,664
I think that'll be one of the lowest in the

672
00:56:29,664 --> 00:56:33,064
lower mainland, but we're emphasizing we're not reducing any of

673
00:56:33,064 --> 00:56:37,177
our core services. That's our proposal. We're not reducing anything

674
00:56:37,177 --> 00:56:41,897
with emergency services. But again, thank you and really appreciate

675
00:56:41,897 --> 00:56:44,217
what you've done and also really appreciate that we're moving

676
00:56:44,217 --> 00:56:47,537
forward and most importantly, looking at what the members of

677
00:56:47,537 --> 00:56:49,865
the public that are here tonight. What they would like

678
00:56:49,865 --> 00:56:52,225
to see and their thoughts. So thank you so much.

679
00:56:52,225 --> 00:56:55,305
I'll call the question. All those in favor? Any opposed?

680
00:56:55,305 --> 00:57:00,466
Been carried. Madam Clerk. Thank you, Mayor Harvey. The next

681
00:57:00,466 --> 00:57:03,826
item of business is 9.3. You have a report from

682
00:57:03,826 --> 00:57:08,186
the facilities and major projects department regarding windscale renewal project

683
00:57:08,186 --> 00:57:13,194
update. Option in the recommendation. Second. Is there any discussion,

684
00:57:13,194 --> 00:57:16,474
Councilor Kruger? Just a quick one that came up to

685
00:57:16,474 --> 00:57:19,994
staff through you, mayor. One thing I'm not seeing in

686
00:57:19,994 --> 00:57:28,862
here is the timeline. For. The flipping of that existing

687
00:57:28,862 --> 00:57:32,582
field to ensure that we have the pinwheel layout. Could

688
00:57:32,582 --> 00:57:36,022
I just. Get additional information on the timeline to see

689
00:57:36,022 --> 00:57:39,924
when that field flip is going to occur. Ms sangrid.

690
00:57:44,043 --> 00:57:46,923
Thank you, worship. I'm going to turn to either Mr.

691
00:57:46,923 --> 00:57:49,683
Turner or Mr. Bauer. Who's? In the audience just to

692
00:57:49,683 --> 00:57:54,447
speak on the timing of the field configuration. Mr. Bauer,

693
00:57:54,447 --> 00:58:02,419
welcome. Thank you, your worship. So with regards to the

694
00:58:02,419 --> 00:58:07,259
timing of the flipping of that additional field at this

695
00:58:07,259 --> 00:58:12,196
point in time. It is not included or contained within

696
00:58:12,196 --> 00:58:17,636
the windscill budget. So within the $130,000,000 we do not

697
00:58:17,636 --> 00:58:21,090
currently have that in place. That being said, in terms

698
00:58:21,090 --> 00:58:25,242
of we are working with the. Parks, Recreation and Culture

699
00:58:25,242 --> 00:58:28,522
Department just as part of their field upgrade program to

700
00:58:28,522 --> 00:58:33,682
determine if that's. Something that could possibly be done before

701
00:58:33,682 --> 00:58:37,202
the completion and opening of windscale. So at this point

702
00:58:37,202 --> 00:58:41,341
in time. It's not currently in the windscale budget, but

703
00:58:41,341 --> 00:58:44,541
we are looking through other means. To see if there

704
00:58:44,541 --> 00:58:48,853
is a possibility. Of finding the funding and making that

705
00:58:48,853 --> 00:58:53,374
happen by the time the new facility is open. Thank

706
00:58:53,374 --> 00:58:57,691
you. Any further discussion? Councilor Kruger. No, just thank you

707
00:58:57,691 --> 00:59:00,771
very much for the information and it's been impressed. Upon

708
00:59:00,771 --> 00:59:03,051
me by field users that I've used, how important that

709
00:59:03,051 --> 00:59:06,411
configuration is for the opportunity. To effectively utilize all fields

710
00:59:06,411 --> 00:59:08,811
at the same time. From a safety standpoint, I know

711
00:59:08,811 --> 00:59:11,811
it's. Something we've discussed previously as a council, so thanks,

712
00:59:11,811 --> 00:59:13,811
and we'll just appreciate future updates as we go through

713
00:59:13,811 --> 00:59:18,178
the process. Mr. Binder. Yeah. Thank you, Mike. Harvey, while

714
00:59:18,178 --> 00:59:20,258
we've got you there, I did have a question from

715
00:59:20,258 --> 00:59:22,778
the community as to. There was a bit of a

716
00:59:22,778 --> 00:59:25,778
surprise as to the size. Of the excavation site as

717
00:59:25,778 --> 00:59:28,778
it is right now, considering what the finished project will

718
00:59:28,778 --> 00:59:30,738
be. But I know there's additional work that is being

719
00:59:30,738 --> 00:59:33,348
done. Preliminary, and if you could just comment on what

720
00:59:33,348 --> 00:59:37,074
that additional work is. Thank you through your worship. In

721
00:59:37,074 --> 00:59:40,154
terms of some of the additional work that is being

722
00:59:40,154 --> 00:59:46,628
undertaken, right. Now is upgrading. A storm drain line running.

723
00:59:48,029 --> 00:59:50,909
West, east, sort of primarily on the, sort of the

724
00:59:50,909 --> 00:59:57,225
north portion of the park. And so certainly. That looks

725
00:59:57,225 --> 01:00:00,025
sort of creates a much larger, I'll say, excavation area

726
01:00:00,025 --> 01:00:03,545
going all the way. From kin village to 56th street.

727
01:00:03,545 --> 01:00:06,465
So that certainly expands. I'm going to say the immediate

728
01:00:06,465 --> 01:00:11,882
footprint of excavation. And construction. That being said, anyone who

729
01:00:11,882 --> 01:00:14,882
has driven, driven by or gone by the site recently

730
01:00:14,882 --> 01:00:18,242
can sort of see the primary excavation and sort of

731
01:00:18,242 --> 01:00:23,842
the large area relating to the building itself and. That

732
01:00:23,842 --> 01:00:28,988
is. The contemplated or the similar size to what has

733
01:00:28,988 --> 01:00:33,781
been presented previously to council. Yeah, thank you for that.

734
01:00:33,781 --> 01:00:35,541
And that certainly makes sense. And now's the time to

735
01:00:35,541 --> 01:00:37,581
do it when we got the equipment on site and

736
01:00:37,581 --> 01:00:40,141
we can fence it all off and get that. Work

737
01:00:40,141 --> 01:00:43,341
done first and then move on to, of course, the

738
01:00:43,341 --> 01:00:45,821
primary project. So it makes a lot of sense, so

739
01:00:45,821 --> 01:00:47,661
I'm glad to hear the sequencing of that. Thank you.

740
01:00:49,435 --> 01:00:51,595
So do you move the recommendations, please? Question on the

741
01:00:51,595 --> 01:01:01,509
motion. All those in favor and carried, Madam Clerk. Thank

742
01:01:01,509 --> 01:01:03,909
you very much, Mayor Harvey. The next item of business

743
01:01:03,909 --> 01:01:07,709
is item 9.4. And you. Have a report from the

744
01:01:07,709 --> 01:01:13,429
development department regarding proposed telecommunications Tower at 2194 Westham Island

745
01:01:13,429 --> 01:01:22,634
Road. Council, please. Move it off to the recommendation. Any

746
01:01:22,634 --> 01:01:25,994
discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor? Any opposed and

747
01:01:25,994 --> 01:01:31,428
carried? Madam clerk. Thank you very much, your worship. The

748
01:01:31,428 --> 01:01:34,388
next item or section of the agenda is motions on

749
01:01:34,388 --> 01:01:39,268
notice. Item 10.1, you have tree protection in sunshine Hills.

750
01:01:39,268 --> 01:01:45,458
Submitted by Councilor Kruger. Councilor Kruger, please. Thank you. Whereas

751
01:01:45,458 --> 01:01:48,778
the Sunshine Hills neighborhood is defined by its mature tree

752
01:01:48,778 --> 01:01:52,378
canopy, which is central to the character livability and environmental

753
01:01:52,378 --> 01:01:56,378
health of the community, whereas increasing redevelopment pressures stemming from

754
01:01:56,378 --> 01:02:00,138
provincial legislative changes are resulting in the removal of large

755
01:02:00,138 --> 01:02:03,858
mature trees, leading to concerns from residents. The unique character

756
01:02:03,858 --> 01:02:08,340
of. Sunshine Hills is being eroded, whereas while delta has

757
01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:12,340
a citywide tree protection and replacement bylaw, residents of Sunshine

758
01:02:12,340 --> 01:02:17,100
Hills have expressed a desire for stronger neighborhood specific protections

759
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,420
to preserve their unique tree canopy, whereas under the current

760
01:02:20,420 --> 01:02:24,460
framework of the community charter, municipalities cannot use tree bylaws

761
01:02:24,460 --> 01:02:28,368
to override the. Development potential of a property permitted under

762
01:02:28,368 --> 01:02:32,688
zoning regulations. Therefore, be it resolved that number one staff

763
01:02:32,688 --> 01:02:36,088
be directed to consult with the Sunshine Hills community to

764
01:02:36,088 --> 01:02:41,048
develop a neighborhood Tree Protection pilot program, which may include

765
01:02:41,048 --> 01:02:44,888
establishing a heritage tree designation to protect landmark trees of

766
01:02:44,888 --> 01:02:50,394
significant. Size, age or community value. Enhance tree replacement requirements

767
01:02:50,394 --> 01:02:54,314
or higher cash in lieu contributions within sunshine Hills to

768
01:02:54,314 --> 01:02:58,234
better reflect the value of lost mature trees, a clear

769
01:02:58,234 --> 01:03:02,754
opt in mechanism for neighborhoods like sunshine hills that wish

770
01:03:02,754 --> 01:03:06,834
to adopt stronger protections while ensuring consistency within the community.

771
01:03:08,413 --> 01:03:12,453
Education and incentive programs for homeowners to preserve large trees

772
01:03:12,453 --> 01:03:17,053
during redevelopment. Enhanced reporting on the number of heritage trees

773
01:03:17,053 --> 01:03:22,137
impacted by development and replacement trees required. Number two staff

774
01:03:22,137 --> 01:03:24,257
report back to council on the results of this community

775
01:03:24,257 --> 01:03:28,497
engagement by February 28, 2026. Number three. That the city

776
01:03:28,497 --> 01:03:31,777
of Delta. Right to the Minister of Municipal affairs requesting

777
01:03:31,777 --> 01:03:35,177
amendments to. The community charter to provide municipalities with greater

778
01:03:35,177 --> 01:03:39,297
authority to protect mature trees in established neighborhoods, even in

779
01:03:39,297 --> 01:03:43,803
areas where redevelopment is permitted. I would so move. Thank

780
01:03:43,803 --> 01:03:46,323
you. And it's been seconded. Is there any further discussion,

781
01:03:46,323 --> 01:03:54,070
Councilor Kruger? Thank you very much, you, worship. Council, I've

782
01:03:54,070 --> 01:03:57,830
submitted the notice of motion behalf. It's. Not really my

783
01:03:57,830 --> 01:04:01,310
motion, though. I'm submitting this on behalf of several hundred

784
01:04:01,310 --> 01:04:04,630
sunshine. Hills residents who reached out to me directly looking

785
01:04:04,630 --> 01:04:12,915
for help. There's no question that Sunshine Hills has unique

786
01:04:12,915 --> 01:04:16,675
community, character. People move to sunshine hills and stay there

787
01:04:16,675 --> 01:04:20,141
because of the beautiful. Large trees that surround the neighborhood.

788
01:04:21,660 --> 01:04:24,140
The residents that I've met with are imploring council to

789
01:04:24,140 --> 01:04:27,860
take action on the increasing number of clear cutting incidents

790
01:04:27,860 --> 01:04:32,860
across the neighborhood. Existing tree protection bylaws are not working

791
01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:36,780
residents are asking for stronger rules to protect existing mature

792
01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:40,106
trees. The residents I spoke with at least were also

793
01:04:40,106 --> 01:04:43,186
very clear. They are not anti development, they're not against

794
01:04:43,186 --> 01:04:46,506
new homes being built in their community. They are, however,

795
01:04:46,506 --> 01:04:49,746
demanding that new homes are respectful to the existing neighborhood

796
01:04:49,746 --> 01:04:52,746
context, and in particular, the greater efforts are made to

797
01:04:52,746 --> 01:04:58,021
save these beautiful mature trees in sunshine hills. Members of

798
01:04:58,021 --> 01:05:01,421
council will recall that we did significantly enhance our tree

799
01:05:01,421 --> 01:05:06,221
protection bylaws in 2021. Prior to this time, the cost

800
01:05:06,221 --> 01:05:08,141
to bulldoze a tree for a development, whether it was

801
01:05:08,141 --> 01:05:11,901
a small hedge or a hundred year old Douglas fir

802
01:05:11,901 --> 01:05:15,981
was the same, and the cash in lieu fee requirement

803
01:05:15,981 --> 01:05:25,118
was on a two. for one tree replacement basis in

804
01:05:25,118 --> 01:05:28,438
2021 council took steps i would say in the right

805
01:05:28,438 --> 01:05:32,278
direction to base our tree replacement policy on the caliper

806
01:05:32,278 --> 01:05:35,958
of the tree the size of the caliper larger trees

807
01:05:35,958 --> 01:05:39,438
should be more financially prohibitive to remove and so council

808
01:05:39,438 --> 01:05:38,223
approved those changes to Increase fees for tree removal, the

809
01:05:38,223 --> 01:05:41,183
larger the size of the tree and also enhance the

810
01:05:41,183 --> 01:05:44,423
replacement ratio. From, say, two to one for a small

811
01:05:44,423 --> 01:05:47,183
tree to three to one or even four to one.

812
01:05:47,183 --> 01:05:49,703
Depending on the size of the tree, that was a

813
01:05:49,703 --> 01:05:53,378
good step. So why just sunshine hills for this motion?

814
01:05:53,378 --> 01:05:56,538
Why not all of Delta? Well, because we tried this.

815
01:05:56,538 --> 01:06:00,738
Shortly after the 2021 changes, Delta sent out a community

816
01:06:00,738 --> 01:06:04,298
survey to all of Delta, asking residents for feedback on

817
01:06:04,298 --> 01:06:07,898
further changes, many of those changes of which I'm proposing

818
01:06:07,898 --> 01:06:10,898
in the motion that's before council this evening. At that

819
01:06:10,898 --> 01:06:13,400
time, we. Decided not to proceed with those changes because

820
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,318
the feedback was very polarizing in the community overall. About

821
01:06:18,318 --> 01:06:21,798
50% of residents responded that Deltus changes went too far.

822
01:06:23,363 --> 01:06:26,403
The other 50% said Delta's changes didn't go far enough,

823
01:06:26,403 --> 01:06:30,397
which really put us in a difficult situation. The reality

824
01:06:30,397 --> 01:06:33,597
is there's just not enough consensus on the topic of

825
01:06:33,597 --> 01:06:37,670
trees for a delta. Wide approach. But I do think

826
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:40,590
there is consensus in sunshine Hills. So the motion is

827
01:06:40,590 --> 01:06:43,510
to do a neighborhood survey in Sunshine Hills to arrive

828
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:46,350
at a data driven approach. If the data indicates, which

829
01:06:46,350 --> 01:06:48,830
I believe it will that a strong majority are willing

830
01:06:48,830 --> 01:06:52,538
to move forward with changes. Then council should proceed. It's

831
01:06:52,538 --> 01:06:56,737
our job to listen to the residents. I'm also asking

832
01:06:56,737 --> 01:06:59,977
for council support for writing a letter to the province

833
01:06:59,977 --> 01:07:04,897
urging changes in legislation to give municipalities more power. We

834
01:07:04,897 --> 01:07:07,897
have been handcuffed in many ways by the community. Charter,

835
01:07:07,897 --> 01:07:10,737
as well as recent provincial changes that limit the authority

836
01:07:10,737 --> 01:07:14,017
of municipalities to create rules that cater to the unique

837
01:07:14,017 --> 01:07:19,124
needs of our areas. We are not homogeneous. We can't

838
01:07:19,124 --> 01:07:21,964
have one size fits all rules for the whole province.

839
01:07:21,964 --> 01:07:25,724
The rules that govern Yale town or downtown Surrey cannot

840
01:07:25,724 --> 01:07:28,404
govern a city like delta or a community. Like Sunshine

841
01:07:28,404 --> 01:07:33,044
Hills, the province must give municipalities more flexibility to respond

842
01:07:33,044 --> 01:07:35,684
to the needs of our residents. That is local democ.

843
01:07:35,655 --> 01:07:40,963
Democracy in action. So I'm asking for support, urging Marin

844
01:07:40,963 --> 01:07:44,043
council to listen to the hundreds of voices that have

845
01:07:44,043 --> 01:07:47,282
sent us letters over the last few weeks. We're always

846
01:07:47,282 --> 01:07:50,282
here to put people first, to put Delta residents first

847
01:07:50,282 --> 01:07:53,082
and listen, frankly to the folks that brought us here

848
01:07:53,082 --> 01:07:55,602
in the first place. So that's my motion. And looking

849
01:07:55,602 --> 01:08:00,002
forward to the discussion. Thank you. Any comments, councilor binder?

850
01:08:01,758 --> 01:08:05,745
Thank you, Mayor Harvey. I've lived in north Delta, or

851
01:08:05,745 --> 01:08:08,945
in Delta and specifically north Delta for over 35 years.

852
01:08:08,945 --> 01:08:12,185
So I share the desire to find balance and development

853
01:08:12,185 --> 01:08:16,225
and tree retention along with tree planting growth I'm adding

854
01:08:16,225 --> 01:08:19,345
my voice of support for councilor Kruger's motion regarding the

855
01:08:19,345 --> 01:08:23,658
sunshine. Hills neighborhood tree protection pilot program. It's a thoughtful

856
01:08:23,658 --> 01:08:27,458
and proactive approach that recognizes the unique character and environmental

857
01:08:27,458 --> 01:08:31,361
value of mature trees in this community. By engaging residents

858
01:08:31,361 --> 01:08:35,801
directly and exploring tools like heritage tree designations, enhanced replacement

859
01:08:35,801 --> 01:08:40,041
policies, and homeowner incentives to work with builders and residents

860
01:08:40,041 --> 01:08:43,121
to protect what matters to the residents there and to

861
01:08:43,121 --> 01:08:46,907
all of us. I'm especially encouraged by the request to

862
01:08:46,907 --> 01:08:51,227
the province for stronger municipal authority under the community. Charter.

863
01:08:51,227 --> 01:08:53,867
These steps not only reflect local values, but also set

864
01:08:53,867 --> 01:08:58,307
a meaningful precedent for urban forest stewardship across delta, so

865
01:08:58,307 --> 01:09:01,227
I do fully support moving this forward. I thank all

866
01:09:01,227 --> 01:09:03,987
who took the time. To write the emails. My last

867
01:09:03,987 --> 01:09:06,806
account was over. 100. I did my best to reply

868
01:09:06,806 --> 01:09:10,363
to everyone, and if I missed you, I apologize. But

869
01:09:10,363 --> 01:09:12,363
feel free to reach out at any time. But thank

870
01:09:12,363 --> 01:09:14,323
you for your engagement in the community. For its step

871
01:09:14,323 --> 01:09:17,923
one, and I trust everyone will continue to be engaged

872
01:09:17,923 --> 01:09:23,930
as we go into the survey process. Thanks. Further comments.

873
01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:27,810
Councilor Geisha thank you, Mayor Harvey, and thank you, Councilor

874
01:09:27,810 --> 01:09:32,138
Kruger, for the motion. Don't want to just reiterate what's

875
01:09:32,138 --> 01:09:34,578
been said, but really, thank you. To the resident for

876
01:09:34,578 --> 01:09:36,378
reaching out, and I was able to meet some of

877
01:09:36,378 --> 01:09:39,498
you as well, to discuss this, and I support making

878
01:09:39,498 --> 01:09:44,532
the changes. Proposed and working together with the Sunshine Hills

879
01:09:44,532 --> 01:09:48,568
community, I think it's a good opportunity. To build on

880
01:09:48,568 --> 01:09:51,528
what we started. And I think it was always nice

881
01:09:51,528 --> 01:09:53,768
to say, like, here's. A starting point, but if we're

882
01:09:53,768 --> 01:09:55,888
missing the mark, let's go back in. And take a

883
01:09:55,888 --> 01:09:58,088
better look at it. So really happy to do that,

884
01:09:58,088 --> 01:10:00,672
and I think that's. Just. How we get closer to

885
01:10:00,672 --> 01:10:04,032
where we want to be and really appreciate the community

886
01:10:04,032 --> 01:10:07,819
input and feedback. Because. That's what it's all about. So

887
01:10:07,819 --> 01:10:11,916
thank you very much. Thank you, councilor. Kruger. Any further

888
01:10:11,916 --> 01:10:15,156
comments? Yeah, I'd just like to mention all I pretty

889
01:10:15,156 --> 01:10:17,716
appreciate all the emails. That I received and actual good

890
01:10:17,716 --> 01:10:19,876
discussions when I went up in Sunshine Hills and talked

891
01:10:19,876 --> 01:10:22,396
to certain people. I think it's time that we try

892
01:10:22,396 --> 01:10:28,614
something. I think it's a very special area. We should

893
01:10:28,614 --> 01:10:32,654
not let the province stop us from doing improvements over

894
01:10:32,654 --> 01:10:35,894
what is actually happening there now. So hopefully we can

895
01:10:35,894 --> 01:10:39,424
have some good legal advice to ensure that. If we

896
01:10:39,424 --> 01:10:41,424
promise to do something for the community that we know,

897
01:10:41,424 --> 01:10:43,904
that we have, the legislative authority. To do it. So

898
01:10:43,904 --> 01:10:46,104
I'm looking very much forward to seeing the survey and

899
01:10:46,104 --> 01:10:49,904
the data. Results. And thank you for the motion, Councilor

900
01:10:49,904 --> 01:10:51,824
Kruger. And thank you for those in Sunshine Hills. That

901
01:10:51,824 --> 01:10:54,944
brought it forward. Madam Clerk also called a question. All

902
01:10:54,944 --> 01:10:58,024
those in favor of the motion is there any opposed?

903
01:10:58,024 --> 01:11:07,582
Unanimously carried mad. Madam. Clear, please. Thank you very much,

904
01:11:07,582 --> 01:11:12,508
Mayor Harvey. Next section of the agenda is correspondence. We

905
01:11:12,508 --> 01:11:16,887
have two pieces of correspondence. One from the Royal Canadian

906
01:11:16,887 --> 01:11:21,887
Legion regarding annual Legion Poppy Campaign and Remembrance Day parade.

907
01:11:23,431 --> 01:11:27,071
And one from M. McKnight, Vancouver Police Department, regarding UBCM

908
01:11:27,071 --> 01:11:31,823
resolution Nr. Twelve. Yes. Could we pull 26, please? Is

909
01:11:31,823 --> 01:11:33,103
there any other items? Of course. Ones that want to

910
01:11:33,103 --> 01:11:36,383
be pulled, and I'll fold. 27. Sorry. You will pull.

911
01:11:38,447 --> 01:11:41,727
Both are pulled, Madam Kirk. Thank you very much, Mayor

912
01:11:41,727 --> 01:11:46,127
Harvey. Item 26 was pulled by yourself from. The Royal

913
01:11:46,127 --> 01:11:50,007
Canadian Legion regarding permission. Request annual Legion Poppy campaign and

914
01:11:50,007 --> 01:11:53,727
Remembrance Day parade October 31 to November 11. Yes, and

915
01:11:53,727 --> 01:11:57,439
I move receipt. Has been seconded. I just like to.

916
01:11:59,131 --> 01:12:00,331
Set the common letter that we send out to the

917
01:12:00,331 --> 01:12:02,931
ladder and Toastman legions, noting the city's Delta support for

918
01:12:02,931 --> 01:12:06,331
the annual poppy campaign in Remembrance Day parade. And thus

919
01:12:06,331 --> 01:12:07,971
the motion then would be to send the letter as

920
01:12:07,971 --> 01:12:11,805
suggested by staff. Call a question. All those in favor?

921
01:12:11,805 --> 01:12:16,445
Any opposed? Carry it. Madam Clerk. Thank you very much,

922
01:12:16,445 --> 01:12:21,445
councilor. Kruger pulled item 27 regarding UBCM resolution and our

923
01:12:21,445 --> 01:12:24,565
twelve health and well being of BC's public safety personnel.

924
01:12:25,978 --> 01:12:30,769
Kruger. Thank you. Mover seat second. And I move that

925
01:12:30,769 --> 01:12:33,729
staff prepare a letter in support of first responder resiliency

926
01:12:33,729 --> 01:12:36,849
program. To be sent to the Honorable Nina Krieger, Minister

927
01:12:36,849 --> 01:12:38,849
of Public Safety and the Solicitor General. On behalf of

928
01:12:38,849 --> 01:12:42,638
the city of Delta. Further discussions, seeing none. All those

929
01:12:42,638 --> 01:12:46,558
in favor? Any opposed? And carried? Madam clerk, thank you

930
01:12:46,558 --> 01:12:48,998
very much. For worship. The next section of the agenda

931
01:12:48,998 --> 01:12:52,478
is notice of motion. And I understand you have a.

932
01:12:52,478 --> 01:12:55,038
Notice of motion for us to say yes. Thank you.

933
01:12:55,038 --> 01:12:57,598
So it's the notice, the motion. Regards examination of the

934
01:12:57,598 --> 01:13:03,705
city of Delta. Establishing as part of core city services

935
01:13:03,705 --> 01:13:06,345
urgent and primary care centers serving north and South Delta.

936
01:13:07,934 --> 01:13:11,054
And the motion is whereas access to timely and appropriate

937
01:13:11,054 --> 01:13:13,814
primary and urgent cares is essential for the health and

938
01:13:13,814 --> 01:13:16,614
well being of all residents of Delta. And whereas many

939
01:13:16,614 --> 01:13:19,934
residents of north and South Delta face challenges accessing primary

940
01:13:19,934 --> 01:13:23,374
care physicians in experience long wait times at our Delta

941
01:13:23,374 --> 01:13:27,334
hospital emergency department for non emergency medical needs, and whereas.

942
01:13:28,346 --> 01:13:32,026
Establishing Virgin primary care centers as court city services in

943
01:13:32,026 --> 01:13:35,586
north and South Delta would greatly improve access to care,

944
01:13:35,586 --> 01:13:38,986
reduce the current unacceptable strain on the Delta hospital emergency

945
01:13:38,986 --> 01:13:43,186
department and enhance the overall health of our community. And

946
01:13:43,186 --> 01:13:47,266
whereas a comprehensive analysis is required to determine the feasibility,

947
01:13:47,266 --> 01:13:50,217
the costs and potential. Benefits of such a service. Therefore,

948
01:13:50,217 --> 01:13:53,057
it be resolved that staff be directed to initiate a

949
01:13:53,057 --> 01:13:56,857
procurement process. For the selection of a qualified consultant to

950
01:13:56,857 --> 01:14:00,057
conduct a detailed analysis on the feasibility of the city.

951
01:14:00,057 --> 01:14:03,537
Of Delta, establishing urgent and primary care centers as part

952
01:14:03,537 --> 01:14:06,857
of its core services, operating a north and south delta.

953
01:14:06,857 --> 01:14:09,472
The analysis should include but not be. Limited to an

954
01:14:09,472 --> 01:14:12,552
assessment of the current gaps in primary and urgent carry

955
01:14:12,552 --> 01:14:15,832
access in north and South Delta a reveal of successful,

956
01:14:15,832 --> 01:14:18,992
urgent and primary care models in other cities. A detailed

957
01:14:18,992 --> 01:14:22,472
cost analysis, including capital and operating costs and potential funding

958
01:14:22,472 --> 01:14:26,761
sources. And recommendations on an optimal model for UPCC's urgent

959
01:14:26,761 --> 01:14:31,161
primary care centers in Delta, including service delivery, staffing, use

960
01:14:31,161 --> 01:14:34,521
of appropriate city departments for operational support and a governance

961
01:14:34,521 --> 01:14:38,047
model. And that will be on our next council meeting

962
01:14:38,047 --> 01:14:46,156
for discussion? That's correct, your worship. Mayor, I think I'd

963
01:14:46,156 --> 01:14:50,247
like to move a motion to waive notice. I'd second

964
01:14:50,247 --> 01:14:55,646
that. All those in favor? And discussion council binder. Yeah.

965
01:14:55,646 --> 01:15:02,027
Thank you, mayor. The motivation to bring this forward is

966
01:15:02,027 --> 01:15:05,707
sadly, crystal clear. Once again, due to events this weekend,

967
01:15:05,707 --> 01:15:09,678
I do look forward to the report. I will admit

968
01:15:09,678 --> 01:15:12,518
I'm not as familiar with the Callwood model, other than

969
01:15:12,518 --> 01:15:15,478
it seems. To be a form of a city paid

970
01:15:15,478 --> 01:15:20,118
medical unit, which I think has merit to explore, but.

971
01:15:20,118 --> 01:15:22,558
I'm always cautious with something like this, and I say

972
01:15:22,558 --> 01:15:25,600
this with respect, but I think. We all are going

973
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,056
to know what I'm speaking of. The opportunity. For other

974
01:15:29,056 --> 01:15:31,816
levels of government to download on. Municipalities is always a

975
01:15:31,816 --> 01:15:36,136
slippery slope, and the more that we do their work,

976
01:15:36,136 --> 01:15:39,056
the less work that they need to do. But that

977
01:15:39,056 --> 01:15:42,536
said, at some point, in time. Priorities do shift, and

978
01:15:42,536 --> 01:15:45,856
I believe this is a time to explore that possible

979
01:15:45,856 --> 01:15:49,992
shift. In the priority. So with that caution, I do

980
01:15:49,992 --> 01:15:51,872
look forward to the report, and I'm very curious to

981
01:15:51,872 --> 01:15:55,632
see how this model could look in delta. And again,

982
01:15:55,632 --> 01:15:57,872
the only other tiny thing that I'm sure staff will

983
01:15:57,872 --> 01:16:02,417
also explore for us is balancing jurisdiction. The south may

984
01:16:02,417 --> 01:16:03,977
be a little bit easier, but in the north maybe

985
01:16:03,977 --> 01:16:06,337
a little more challenging as to who actually does get

986
01:16:06,337 --> 01:16:10,137
to use this particular clinic when you're interfacing with other

987
01:16:10,137 --> 01:16:12,337
communities where this is a Delta clinic, but it doesn't

988
01:16:12,337 --> 01:16:14,657
mean that others may not also want to take advantage

989
01:16:14,657 --> 01:16:16,137
of it, but I'm sure this will all be included

990
01:16:16,137 --> 01:16:18,017
in the report and thank you for bringing this motion

991
01:16:18,017 --> 01:16:24,977
forward. Thank you. Further comments, Councilor Krueger? Thank you. And

992
01:16:24,977 --> 01:16:31,048
thank you for bringing the motion forward. it is very

993
01:16:31,048 --> 01:16:34,408
unfortunate that the province has placed us in this position

994
01:16:34,408 --> 01:16:35,462
to even be considering a motion like this The province

995
01:16:35,462 --> 01:16:38,662
has failed to provide adequate health care in the city

996
01:16:38,662 --> 01:16:45,517
of Delta. But it's unfortunate that the situation has gotten

997
01:16:45,517 --> 01:16:48,877
so bad. We're now considering spending municipal tax dollars that

998
01:16:48,877 --> 01:16:52,717
should be going towards firefighters and police officers and parks

999
01:16:52,717 --> 01:16:56,665
and recreation services. To bail out the Ministry of Health.

1000
01:16:58,383 --> 01:17:01,983
That's not good stewardship. That is downloading. And downloading is

1001
01:17:01,983 --> 01:17:07,063
usually a one. Directional exercise. Whenever municipalities have taken on

1002
01:17:07,063 --> 01:17:10,788
initiatives that. Should be provided by the provincial or federal

1003
01:17:10,788 --> 01:17:14,428
governments that doesn't get taken back over this. Is Delta

1004
01:17:14,428 --> 01:17:18,335
considering getting into the healthcare business? Which is very concerning.

1005
01:17:18,335 --> 01:17:20,215
I agree. We have to look at it. We have

1006
01:17:20,215 --> 01:17:22,895
to understand what the costs are and what the implications

1007
01:17:22,895 --> 01:17:24,655
would be. And then I think it's a first step.

1008
01:17:27,094 --> 01:17:29,574
We should be putting an invoice together and delivering that

1009
01:17:29,574 --> 01:17:31,854
directly to the Minister of health. And saying, here's what

1010
01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:35,980
it would cost. How can we get it done? a

1011
01:17:35,980 --> 01:17:39,620
very last resort should be actually using municipal property tax

1012
01:17:39,620 --> 01:17:45,003
dollars On constitutionally provincial mandated health care. So, like I

1013
01:17:45,003 --> 01:17:46,403
said, I want to know how much it will cost

1014
01:17:46,403 --> 01:17:48,563
for Delta to go on. Its own. I want to

1015
01:17:48,563 --> 01:17:55,221
add up the costs. But it's also important to remember

1016
01:17:55,221 --> 01:17:57,141
that this is a motion that does not help to

1017
01:17:57,141 --> 01:18:00,421
solve the underlying issue, which is that we can't keep

1018
01:18:00,421 --> 01:18:03,421
our emergency room open and that's not something Delta can

1019
01:18:03,421 --> 01:18:06,661
do. That's something only the Ministry of Health can do.

1020
01:18:06,661 --> 01:18:10,101
Through adequately funding the system, through ensuring that there is

1021
01:18:10,101 --> 01:18:19,009
staffing, resiliency. so it's not the case that if there's

1022
01:18:19,009 --> 01:18:21,529
one doctor that calls in sick the entire er has

1023
01:18:21,529 --> 01:18:24,729
to get closed down the province has to step up

1024
01:18:24,729 --> 01:18:24,701
and deal with that themselves So with that, I'll be

1025
01:18:24,701 --> 01:18:31,060
supporting the motion. With grave concern. About the precedent this

1026
01:18:31,060 --> 01:18:33,820
will set for municipal tax dollars in Delta. Thank you.

1027
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,960
Thank you. Further comments, take councilor Geeshan, then councilor del

1028
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,200
Sanchez. Thank you, mayor Harvey. Don't have too much to

1029
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:45,360
add. Just very supportive of investigating this. Agreed that this

1030
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,440
should. Not be something that we need to be doing.

1031
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:53,452
However, I agree that. It is of urgent importance for

1032
01:18:53,452 --> 01:18:57,132
all residents whether what tax dollars were paying for inchlier

1033
01:18:57,132 --> 01:18:59,372
citywide like this is something that we need to fix,

1034
01:18:59,372 --> 01:19:03,212
and it's very scary for those of us here that

1035
01:19:03,212 --> 01:19:05,452
it's just boggling to me that when we discuss with

1036
01:19:05,452 --> 01:19:08,612
the province that an urgent care center would take so

1037
01:19:08,612 --> 01:19:11,952
much pressure off of our emergency room, which. Would hopefully

1038
01:19:11,952 --> 01:19:16,336
help them deal with. The number of volume they already

1039
01:19:16,336 --> 01:19:18,936
have. And yet we were still being rejected and denied

1040
01:19:18,936 --> 01:19:21,576
having urgent care centers, so I'm hoping that's something we've

1041
01:19:21,576 --> 01:19:23,696
been continually working on. And if we have to go

1042
01:19:23,696 --> 01:19:26,416
this route, I'm glad to look at it, and I'm

1043
01:19:26,416 --> 01:19:30,483
glad that we're able to do this. Thanks. Thank you,

1044
01:19:30,483 --> 01:19:36,143
Councilor Dosan. Thank you, Mayor Harvey. It's very unfortunate. What

1045
01:19:36,143 --> 01:19:41,551
we are seeing is our healthcare system is broken. This

1046
01:19:41,551 --> 01:19:46,904
motion our sporting Eric gets at least. It will give

1047
01:19:46,904 --> 01:19:52,448
an opportunity. To try to find another solution which we

1048
01:19:52,448 --> 01:19:56,556
can serve. To our residents in Adulta. Of course, this

1049
01:19:56,556 --> 01:20:02,041
is a very urgent. And supporting this motion. Thank you.

1050
01:20:02,041 --> 01:20:07,048
Thank you. Anything further? Yes, please. Thank you, Mayor Harvey.

1051
01:20:08,235 --> 01:20:11,052
I personally believe. That Delta is stepping in to take

1052
01:20:11,052 --> 01:20:16,062
this responsibility. As an absolute cop out. By the provincial

1053
01:20:16,062 --> 01:20:19,702
government. At the municipal level, our focus really should be

1054
01:20:19,702 --> 01:20:24,262
the core services, our emergency services, fire, police, roads, rec

1055
01:20:24,262 --> 01:20:29,120
centers, housings. Et cetera. And this really is allowing the

1056
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,983
downloading of responsibility. I will support the motion with great

1057
01:20:33,983 --> 01:20:37,796
reservations. And I guess I'll just wait for the report.

1058
01:20:37,796 --> 01:20:41,076
But I do agree with everybody at the table that

1059
01:20:41,076 --> 01:20:44,126
something needs to be done. And let's see what happens

1060
01:20:44,126 --> 01:20:49,715
here. Thank you. Anything further. Thank you. And I thank

1061
01:20:49,715 --> 01:20:53,884
you for the support. Again, this is not saying we

1062
01:20:53,884 --> 01:20:57,902
are going to do it. But based upon what's happened

1063
01:20:57,902 --> 01:21:01,182
this year with the emergency department at a great hospital,

1064
01:21:02,884 --> 01:21:04,724
We need to think outside of the box, and maybe.

1065
01:21:05,838 --> 01:21:08,998
These solutions will give us more authority and more ability

1066
01:21:08,998 --> 01:21:10,718
to pressure the province to do what they should be

1067
01:21:10,718 --> 01:21:16,300
doing, but based upon. Recent discussions. I just do not

1068
01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:20,380
see any hope that in the immediate future for us

1069
01:21:20,380 --> 01:21:23,615
to have an urgent and primary care center. I really

1070
01:21:23,615 --> 01:21:26,455
hope I'm wrong, but I think again, and I appreciate

1071
01:21:26,455 --> 01:21:28,255
the support that it's time for us to look at

1072
01:21:28,255 --> 01:21:32,907
other options. That have actually happened in BC. So I'll

1073
01:21:32,907 --> 01:21:35,619
call a question. All those in favor? Also in kind

1074
01:21:35,619 --> 01:21:37,139
of a mover and secondary. It was moved in second,

1075
01:21:37,139 --> 01:21:41,669
wasn't it? No, it is okay. All those in favor?

1076
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:46,048
And, Carrie. Thank you, counsel. Madam clerk.

1077
01:21:51,529 --> 01:21:53,729
Thank you very much for worship. I believe we have

1078
01:21:53,729 --> 01:21:57,169
one more notice of motion from councilor. Kruger. Thank you.

1079
01:21:58,516 --> 01:22:01,716
Whereas the residents of Delta are experiencing significant and urgent

1080
01:22:01,716 --> 01:22:06,596
challenges in accessing timely, primary, urgent, and emergency healthcare services,

1081
01:22:06,596 --> 01:22:09,396
resulting in increased health risks, long wait times, and strain

1082
01:22:09,396 --> 01:22:12,876
on hospital services. And whereas these healthcare access issues are

1083
01:22:12,876 --> 01:22:17,316
exasperating health disparities, particularly for vulnerable populations and are posing

1084
01:22:17,316 --> 01:22:19,920
an imminent. Threat to the health and safety of our

1085
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,960
community, and whereas provincial and regional resources are insufficient to

1086
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,680
address these critical healthcare gaps in a timely manner, necessitating

1087
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:32,012
immediate local action to safeguard public health. Therefore, be it

1088
01:22:32,012 --> 01:22:34,932
resolved that the city of Delta formally declare a public

1089
01:22:34,932 --> 01:22:39,212
health emergency within its jurisdiction. Recognizing the critical need for

1090
01:22:39,212 --> 01:22:41,892
urgent measures to protect the health and well being of

1091
01:22:41,892 --> 01:22:44,692
its residents. Be it further resolved that the city of

1092
01:22:44,692 --> 01:22:48,652
Delta formally requests the provincial government in Fraser health authority

1093
01:22:48,652 --> 01:22:52,847
to provide immediate support, resources and interven. Intervention strategies to

1094
01:22:52,847 --> 01:22:55,687
address the healthcare crisis and that the city of Delta

1095
01:22:55,687 --> 01:22:58,447
commits to requesting meetings with the Minister of Health and

1096
01:22:58,447 --> 01:23:01,407
the chair of Fraser Health to urgently discuss and develop

1097
01:23:01,407 --> 01:23:05,728
solutions to the healthcare challenges faced by Delta residents. I

1098
01:23:05,728 --> 01:23:07,688
would like to move a motion to waive notice to

1099
01:23:07,688 --> 01:23:15,545
discuss this. second councilor kruger and i say this with

1100
01:23:15,545 --> 01:23:18,295
respect as chair and mayor I am ruling this motion

1101
01:23:18,295 --> 01:23:22,644
out of order. The only person in British Columbia who

1102
01:23:22,644 --> 01:23:25,884
can declare a public health emergency is the provincial health

1103
01:23:25,884 --> 01:23:29,364
officer. I confirm that with Minister Osborne, Minister of Health,

1104
01:23:29,364 --> 01:23:33,987
today and. Because you've asked for a declaration of a

1105
01:23:33,987 --> 01:23:39,005
public health emergency. And Delta again. It's out of order,

1106
01:23:39,005 --> 01:23:42,925
as the jurisdiction is solely with the prudential health officer.

1107
01:23:44,521 --> 01:23:47,443
I'd like to challenge the ruling of the chair. Please

1108
01:23:47,443 --> 01:23:52,319
do. Well, that's a motion to challenge the ruling of

1109
01:23:52,319 --> 01:23:58,101
a chair. Could you have a secondary? Second. Thank you,

1110
01:23:58,101 --> 01:24:04,230
mayor. Obviously. The province is the only jurisdiction that can

1111
01:24:04,230 --> 01:24:09,039
declare a state of emergency. What I'm proposing and what

1112
01:24:09,039 --> 01:24:11,159
I'd like the opportunity to speak to and have. A

1113
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:15,006
council discussion on. Is to declare that as a local

1114
01:24:15,006 --> 01:24:18,246
municipality, we are at our wits end. This is no

1115
01:24:18,246 --> 01:24:21,086
different. Than what other cities have done with regards to

1116
01:24:21,086 --> 01:24:25,613
the drug and mental health crisis. In declaring mental health

1117
01:24:25,613 --> 01:24:29,573
emergencies in cities across British Columbia. There's great precedent for

1118
01:24:29,573 --> 01:24:32,133
that. It is a declaration of the fact that we

1119
01:24:32,133 --> 01:24:36,613
need help, that it is not appropriate. One time, one.

1120
01:24:36,613 --> 01:24:38,973
Closure in a year is an anomaly. Four is a

1121
01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:43,293
crisis, a compounding crisis of not having confidence that if

1122
01:24:43,293 --> 01:24:45,940
there's going to be an incident, Tonight for yourself or

1123
01:24:45,940 --> 01:24:48,380
a loved one that you're taken care of, that you're

1124
01:24:48,380 --> 01:24:50,420
going to have a physician at Delta er to take

1125
01:24:50,420 --> 01:24:53,820
care of you. Not having access to urgent care centers

1126
01:24:53,820 --> 01:24:58,881
in our community, 110,000 people strong. Compounded by an existing

1127
01:24:58,881 --> 01:25:01,921
family position shortage and virtually no walk in clinics. That

1128
01:25:01,921 --> 01:25:04,881
is a crisis. And we do have power at this

1129
01:25:04,881 --> 01:25:08,721
table as representatives of our community, to stand up and

1130
01:25:08,721 --> 01:25:11,761
say, enough is enough. And it's time for change, and

1131
01:25:11,761 --> 01:25:13,681
it's time for action and. We can declare it a

1132
01:25:13,681 --> 01:25:17,761
crisis and we can use that in our communication strategy.

1133
01:25:18,066 --> 01:25:19,866
To say to the Minister of health. How about a

1134
01:25:19,866 --> 01:25:23,520
meeting? How about we sit down and actually understand. Not

1135
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,983
talking points. Not plans to have plans. Border, the concrete

1136
01:25:27,983 --> 01:25:31,057
steps that are going to take place to ensure. That

1137
01:25:31,057 --> 01:25:33,977
there is no closure again at the Delta hospital. This

1138
01:25:33,977 --> 01:25:37,137
hospital has been open for decades without a single emergency

1139
01:25:37,137 --> 01:25:40,297
room closure, and we've had four in the same year,

1140
01:25:40,297 --> 01:25:42,537
Mr. Mayor, with all due respect, that is a crisis.

1141
01:25:44,247 --> 01:25:46,687
I'd like you to reconsider your ruling and elect this

1142
01:25:46,687 --> 01:25:48,887
council to vote to. Declare it the crisis that it

1143
01:25:48,887 --> 01:25:50,967
is, so we get the attention that we deserve for

1144
01:25:50,967 --> 01:25:55,280
our residents. Thank you. So I'm not betting down on.

1145
01:25:58,457 --> 01:26:00,377
my motion that it is out of your motion is

1146
01:26:00,377 --> 01:26:02,111
out of order You mentioned about talking to the minister.

1147
01:26:03,626 --> 01:26:05,626
I did receive a phone call on Saturday from the

1148
01:26:05,626 --> 01:26:09,786
minister directly, which are greatly appreciated. She committed to me

1149
01:26:09,786 --> 01:26:12,506
that she'd be getting back to me on Monday with

1150
01:26:12,506 --> 01:26:15,506
regards to setting up a meeting with herself, her chief

1151
01:26:15,506 --> 01:26:19,146
of staff in Fraser. Help. That did come in today,

1152
01:26:19,146 --> 01:26:23,334
Ms. Sangrick. Could you confirm that? Yes, you, worship. We

1153
01:26:23,334 --> 01:26:27,534
did receive correspondence from the minister's office noting the minister

1154
01:26:27,534 --> 01:26:31,814
would like. To reconnect with council and asking our dates

1155
01:26:31,814 --> 01:26:35,155
for a meeting. And it's important that we just do

1156
01:26:35,155 --> 01:26:37,755
not have counsel. We should be having members of the

1157
01:26:37,755 --> 01:26:41,475
Delta hospital foundation there and hopefully some doctors that are

1158
01:26:41,475 --> 01:26:44,035
working in the ER to come and explain directly to

1159
01:26:44,035 --> 01:26:47,548
the minister that stress that they are under. Due to

1160
01:26:47,548 --> 01:26:50,668
the fact that it's just been overcrowded with people that

1161
01:26:50,668 --> 01:26:53,428
have urgent needs, but it's not life threatening. And that

1162
01:26:53,428 --> 01:26:56,068
is, as we all know, causing a problem. I would

1163
01:26:56,068 --> 01:26:58,308
suggest if you wanted to bring this forward later on,

1164
01:26:58,308 --> 01:27:01,428
after that meeting, that'd. Be more appropriate. But we are

1165
01:27:01,428 --> 01:27:04,068
doing just what you said. The minister committed and she's.

1166
01:27:04,068 --> 01:27:07,717
Promised. And she's already came through with that prom. Promise

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01:27:07,717 --> 01:27:10,557
by arranging for a meeting with us very shortly. But

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01:27:10,557 --> 01:27:14,986
also, again, I already hope that Delta Hospital Foundation. Chief

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01:27:14,986 --> 01:27:17,786
officer is here today, and hopefully some doctors that are

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01:27:17,786 --> 01:27:20,466
working there can attend. I think that's the meeting that

1171
01:27:20,466 --> 01:27:29,938
we should be judging further action on? mayor i do

1172
01:27:29,938 --> 01:27:33,298
have a motion on the floor that's been seconded for

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01:27:33,298 --> 01:27:33,580
challenging the chair Question. All those in favor of the

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01:27:33,580 --> 01:27:40,602
challenge to the chair? All those opposed? And it's the

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01:27:40,602 --> 01:27:45,662
post. So look forward to, Mr. Councilor Kruger for you

1176
01:27:45,662 --> 01:27:48,862
attending that meeting and looking forward that we can choose

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01:27:48,862 --> 01:27:53,022
something to ensure that we're getting fair treatment from freezer

1178
01:27:53,022 --> 01:28:00,143
health. Just for clarity. If I may.

1179
01:28:06,005 --> 01:28:09,085
The motion was originally noticed and then notice was waived.

1180
01:28:09,085 --> 01:28:11,845
Correct. Which then put it on the table. For debate.

1181
01:28:11,845 --> 01:28:17,995
Yes. Does that mean that. This motion cannot come forward

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01:28:17,995 --> 01:28:23,929
at our next meeting, then. councilor councilor kruger has the

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01:28:23,929 --> 01:28:26,449
opportunity to do a notice of motion at any time

1184
01:28:27,282 --> 01:28:33,299
Okay? And I asked the question because. I'm still looking

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01:28:33,299 --> 01:28:36,419
with regards to the only one who can declare a

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01:28:36,419 --> 01:28:40,139
provincial health emergency. Is the provincial health officer. And again.

1187
01:28:41,687 --> 01:28:44,127
That was told to me, confirmed to me by the

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01:28:44,127 --> 01:28:48,674
minister just a few hours ago. Yeah. And I respect

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01:28:48,674 --> 01:28:51,074
that. I just haven't had the opportunity to get that

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01:28:51,074 --> 01:28:54,246
information for myself. And so. I'm in somewhat of a

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01:28:54,246 --> 01:28:58,581
conflict, because I'm not. Sure if we could not declare.

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01:29:00,863 --> 01:29:03,783
A state of emergency, as Counselor Groover has asked, and

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01:29:03,783 --> 01:29:08,239
so I'm needing to get that information. Firsthand as well.

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01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:11,039
So I guess that's why I'm really struggling, because I

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01:29:11,039 --> 01:29:13,719
believe that we could, but that's why I'm struggling with

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01:29:13,719 --> 01:29:18,029
this. I hope the notice comes forward again, or. Sorry,

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01:29:18,029 --> 01:29:20,309
the motion does come forward again. Well, I think it's

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01:29:20,309 --> 01:29:21,749
a good question for you to ask at our meeting

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01:29:21,749 --> 01:29:24,389
that's coming up. With the minister directly. All of council

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01:29:24,389 --> 01:29:29,358
could ask those questions. Councilor Geisha, please. Thank you. Mayor

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01:29:29,358 --> 01:29:34,478
Hervey, just to clarify, and just pardon my question. Here.

1202
01:29:34,478 --> 01:29:42,316
Is this just a matter of. Wording, public health emergency

1203
01:29:42,316 --> 01:29:44,716
being the issue that something only the province can do.

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01:29:44,716 --> 01:29:47,596
Not sure if the question for Councilor Cougar would be

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01:29:47,596 --> 01:29:54,951
to declare. An emergency room crisis. in delta and then

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01:29:54,951 --> 01:29:59,211
i am supportive of The bottom two recommendations. It looks

1207
01:29:59,211 --> 01:30:00,971
like we already have a meeting going forward, and then

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01:30:00,971 --> 01:30:05,331
obviously, we'll keep requesting Fraser health Authority to provide immediate

1209
01:30:05,331 --> 01:30:08,571
support and resources and intervention strategies. Just throw that out

1210
01:30:08,571 --> 01:30:12,382
to Councilor Kruger. For trying to bring this on the

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01:30:12,382 --> 01:30:15,182
floor with the different wording, or if that's. The issue,

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01:30:15,182 --> 01:30:18,062
Mirvey. Also, please feel free to correct me if I

1213
01:30:18,062 --> 01:30:22,622
got that right. Yeah. Thank you very much. Councilor Dieshan,

1214
01:30:22,622 --> 01:30:24,302
I got to admit, I'm very surprised this was not

1215
01:30:24,302 --> 01:30:26,542
meant to be a divisive motion. This was supposed to

1216
01:30:26,542 --> 01:30:30,582
be a unifying motion. Hopefully a seven to zero motion

1217
01:30:30,582 --> 01:30:33,303
to demonstra. Demonstrate very strong support, that our council is

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01:30:33,303 --> 01:30:36,303
united, that we're standing with our community in this very

1219
01:30:36,303 --> 01:30:39,263
challenging time. I don't know what other word to describe

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01:30:39,263 --> 01:30:42,023
foreclosures. Of an emergency room that has never been closed

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01:30:42,023 --> 01:30:46,604
before in the same year, other than a crisis. Obviously,

1222
01:30:46,604 --> 01:30:48,764
I'm not talking in the literal sense of what the

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01:30:48,764 --> 01:30:52,124
Ministry of Health does in a Covid-19 situation in terms

1224
01:30:52,124 --> 01:30:56,684
of extraordinary legislative powers for a municipality. I'm not talking

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01:30:56,684 --> 01:30:59,564
about extraordinary municipalities. I'm talking about standing together with our

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01:30:59,564 --> 01:31:03,204
community and declaring, stating what this is, that it's a

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01:31:03,204 --> 01:31:05,764
crisis so that we can go forward and use that.

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01:31:05,764 --> 01:31:08,958
As. A communications tool. When we're speaking with the minister,

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01:31:08,958 --> 01:31:11,278
when we're speaking with the health authority when we're speaking

1230
01:31:11,278 --> 01:31:13,758
with other decision makers so that they understand how seriously

1231
01:31:13,758 --> 01:31:16,398
we're taking this. This is not meant to be defeated

1232
01:31:16,398 --> 01:31:20,406
on a technicality. So anyway, if that is the ruling,

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01:31:20,406 --> 01:31:23,726
I'm incredibly disappointed. It is a crisis, Mr. Mayor. I

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01:31:23,726 --> 01:31:25,086
don't know what else you would call it. It is

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01:31:25,086 --> 01:31:30,693
a public health crisis. Our community needs help. And it's

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01:31:30,693 --> 01:31:32,733
unfortunate that we won't be able to debate and vote

1237
01:31:32,733 --> 01:31:38,653
on the motion. Just as a further comment on that,

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01:31:40,690 --> 01:31:42,770
I think it's not up just to us as counselors.

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01:31:43,714 --> 01:31:47,154
And the mayor to declare the crisis. We need to

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01:31:47,154 --> 01:31:50,314
sit down with our adulthood hospital foundation and represents of

1241
01:31:50,314 --> 01:31:53,314
the Delta hospital management and see what they want us

1242
01:31:53,314 --> 01:31:56,787
to do. We're supposed to be in consultation and working

1243
01:31:56,787 --> 01:31:58,987
together as a team, and that's. Why I look forward

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01:31:58,987 --> 01:32:01,867
to them joining us at our meeting with the minister,

1245
01:32:01,867 --> 01:32:03,307
and I don't. Think we're going to get much from

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01:32:03,307 --> 01:32:06,347
the minister insofar as easing our thoughts and then that's

1247
01:32:06,347 --> 01:32:10,707
the time to react. But I'd rather react jointly with

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01:32:10,707 --> 01:32:13,907
people that are dealing with the system right now firsthand,

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01:32:13,907 --> 01:32:17,789
the doctors, the nurse. Nurses and our Delta Hospital foundation.

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01:32:17,789 --> 01:32:20,069
That meeting we're going to be trying to have within

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01:32:20,069 --> 01:32:22,906
the next two weeks. I look forward to. Again, as

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01:32:22,906 --> 01:32:25,546
I'm repeating myself, we look forward to that meeting and

1253
01:32:25,546 --> 01:32:27,706
seeing if we could get some solid answers. It better

1254
01:32:27,706 --> 01:32:29,226
not be two weeks from now, Mr. Mayor. I hope

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01:32:29,226 --> 01:32:31,146
we can do it tomorrow. And I hope the minister

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01:32:31,146 --> 01:32:32,666
will agree to do it tomorrow. Be nicer if it

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01:32:32,666 --> 01:32:35,026
was public health crisis. Anyway, I'll leave it there. Thank

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01:32:35,026 --> 01:32:40,247
you. Man and clerk. Next subject, please. Thank you, worship.

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01:32:40,247 --> 01:32:42,727
The next section of the agenda is council inquiries, other

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01:32:42,727 --> 01:32:47,549
matters in new business council. Please. Your worship. If there's

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01:32:47,549 --> 01:32:51,069
nothing further, adjournment would be on order. Council, banker. Motion

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01:32:51,069 --> 01:32:56,728
to adjourn. All those in favor and carried.