1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:08,020 Okay, we'll get started. Thank you, everyone. Today's presenter, 2 00:00:13,220 --> 00:00:26,260 so today is Tuesday, April 7th, 2026. It is 1204. I hope everyone had a great Easter holiday. And with that, I will call the city district side of the meeting. 3 00:00:26,260 --> 00:00:27,660 north from 4 00:00:31,140 --> 00:00:34,140 the port. Let it be noted. We have four of them, so go ahead. 5 00:00:35,060 --> 00:00:43,780 A joint meeting of the Board of Trustees of Denton ISD will be held at the 7th, 2026 beginning at 12 p.m. in the City of Denton Development Service with Business. 6 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:54,500 401 North Home Street, Denton, Texas, 76201. The subjects discussed. The subjects to be discussed are considered or upon which any formal action may be taken. 7 00:00:54,500 --> 00:01:07,440 And our is listed below items do not have to be taken in order shown on the meeting notice unless removed from the consent agenda items identified with the consent agenda will be acted on at one time. 8 00:01:07,660 --> 00:01:10,720 And so we'll do a call to order and we do have a form. 9 00:01:13,850 --> 00:01:14,370 Okay. 10 00:01:14,530 --> 00:01:23,930 And then so the first item on the work session agenda is 3, a ID, 2, 6, 0, 2, 0, 9 received before hold the session. 11 00:01:23,930 --> 00:01:28,290 regarding Denton ISD construction at Borman Elementary School. 12 00:01:30,380 --> 00:01:40,700 Brandon Boydor, Executive Director of Construction has sent an update on Borman and how ready it's going to be come August, right? 13 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:47,700 Absolutely, absolutely. I'm sure everybody knows where it's at, everybody drives by pretty often. 14 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:54,600 Mormon is coming along I would say I think we're within two weeks of the 15 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:02,480 appropriate date on the schedule. We go through it a little bit here. I don't know 16 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,720 that you really care about all these. We are talking about Mormon but we listed 17 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,000 all the projects that we currently have in our queue. If it says in 18 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,240 progress, obviously the project is in progress. If it says permitting, we're 19 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,200 either going through permitting with the city right now, 20 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,280 or we are going through final drawings, 21 00:02:20,460 --> 00:02:21,720 but we're in the permitting phase 22 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,860 that all of those projects have been 23 00:02:23,860 --> 00:02:26,420 did out taken to the board for approval. 24 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:29,020 But we are, that's kind of how we list them 25 00:02:29,020 --> 00:02:30,420 in the progress or in the permitting. 26 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:33,380 So you can see there's quite a few projects there 27 00:02:33,380 --> 00:02:36,240 on our queue for 26, 27, 28. 28 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Unborming. 29 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:43,480 The picture here of November of 2025, 30 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:45,480 the top picture, you can kind of see where that is. 31 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,320 it's an ICF construction project. The walls are up, and in November we really didn't have 32 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:56,420 a roof on most of the facility. You can see on the bottom photo there, we are in the drow. 33 00:02:56,580 --> 00:03:01,640 The windows are in. The roof's on. Cat sheet's not on, but the roof is in the drive. The 34 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,420 only portion of the building that is left open is right there in the middle, and that 35 00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:08,640 really is just so that we can get to the courtyard. Since this building does have 36 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,840 a courtyard, we do have to get heavy equipment in and out of that courtyard. 37 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,480 So that's kind of why you see the courtyard there, or that front of the building that is still open. 38 00:03:17,860 --> 00:03:22,440 All the work going on, I'm not bored of you with all that. You can find all of this stuff on our website. 39 00:03:23,580 --> 00:03:28,980 But really what that says is there's a lot of people on this job every day working to get it to completion. 40 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:37,820 This is the inside, as well as the courtyard. The bottom photo there is the courtyard with some heavy equipment in there. 41 00:03:39,180 --> 00:03:42,780 So the interior, you can see finishes are already going up in certain areas. 42 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,020 Certain areas, I would say, are more in the dry than others because of that center section 43 00:03:47,020 --> 00:03:47,920 being left open. 44 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,360 But we do have temporary walls in there so that we can work on those areas. 45 00:03:53,610 --> 00:03:55,630 Photo of the courtyard from the 7th floor. 46 00:03:56,190 --> 00:04:02,230 The bottom photo of there is the gymnasium, or that's what we want to call it, a recreational 47 00:04:02,230 --> 00:04:02,910 area. 48 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:06,310 And that is the spot that we do have an office there for the city. 49 00:04:06,310 --> 00:04:09,430 We'll have an officer for after-school activities in that area. 50 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,360 This would have been a video of Lileover, but it just kind of gives you an idea of where 51 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,660 we are. 52 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,740 Obviously, the original Borman is this way, you can't see it, but the whole plan, after 53 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:28,540 we finish Borman, we will then go into the tearing down of the old Borman and then construct 54 00:04:28,540 --> 00:04:34,160 the city's soccer field as agreed upon up in that area, and all the things that 55 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,880 goes with that. 56 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:37,480 Any questions on that? 57 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,720 I don't know if you have this information, is the oversea of the construction, but can 58 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,660 you talk about the capacity at the current site and then the capacity at this new and 59 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:49,980 improved? 60 00:04:50,260 --> 00:04:54,760 Yeah, typically we like to say that our current elementaries, the capacity is somewhere in 61 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,740 the 750 range. 62 00:04:55,840 --> 00:05:02,480 Obviously that is massaged a little bit, nowadays with collaboration spaces and all the special 63 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,480 programs that go into school, those numbers have to shake out a little bit. 64 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,820 But 750 is what we typically say our net design or elementaries will hold. 65 00:05:12,140 --> 00:05:15,820 This building will be able to hold about nine when it's total. 66 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,060 It's not that it has that many more classrooms, it's that it has some small group instruction 67 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:25,840 spaces that are in the old building we're having to use, a complete classroom for 12 68 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:26,060 kids. 69 00:05:26,340 --> 00:05:30,220 And we built some of those for the smaller, so we take a little bit more efficient use 70 00:05:30,220 --> 00:05:30,880 of the building. 71 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,920 I was going to say that we are also building them for four pre-k classrooms. 72 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:38,560 That's correct. 73 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:46,860 So building, say, ten years ago, we didn't build four pre-k classrooms inside, and we've 74 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:49,480 added that into our newer footprints as well. 75 00:05:50,380 --> 00:05:51,260 May I continue? 76 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Absolutely. 77 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:54,520 Is this pre-k through fifth? 78 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,600 Pre-k through five. 79 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Yes, ma'am. 80 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:56,480 Through fifth? 81 00:05:56,620 --> 00:05:57,020 Yes, ma'am. 82 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,480 And this feeds into Calhoun, is that? 83 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,260 This feeds into Kalman, a little bit in the McMap. 84 00:06:03,860 --> 00:06:07,100 Yeah, a little window there at McMap and that tools down there. 85 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,940 And are there any items or kind of relics from 86 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,800 the old historic rank one in school that have been able to be 87 00:06:15,340 --> 00:06:19,480 repurposed in the new building? Well, one of the unique things on this side, and why it's 88 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,540 chosen to kind of swap land with the city is what ends up in function. 89 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:27,580 So that full school, really there's no, nothing we can do to that school 90 00:06:27,580 --> 00:06:34,060 right now because we are using it as a functional school. There is very little in that school 91 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,760 that we would want to pull over. I mean at the high school we did some of that where 92 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,440 we saved the logo that was in the terrazzo and we moved it over and we moved some things 93 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,720 like that. The trophies and all of that that are inside Borman that were one of the students, 94 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,000 all of that stuff will be moved over. But actually on the facility there's really 95 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:59,860 nothing in there that I would say is salvage or usable, you know, for as 96 00:06:59,860 --> 00:07:04,500 using in the building. Yeah, I don't think that there's just a ton of things 97 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:07,380 like you have at the high school or at the middle schools where you have some of 98 00:07:07,380 --> 00:07:10,360 those kind of types of things. Don't know if I answered that question how you 99 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,400 want it. Yeah, I don't think I earned any trophies when I went to Crane 100 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,560 Oh, I'm sure you did. 101 00:07:15,940 --> 00:07:18,260 No, no, I'm sure there's something there with your name. 102 00:07:18,260 --> 00:07:19,080 We'll get everyone of those. 103 00:07:20,180 --> 00:07:20,920 Go get your plate. 104 00:07:21,980 --> 00:07:25,160 Yeah, and I promise you, we'll make sure we have one for you there. 105 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Yeah, go right there. 106 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:31,600 I was going to say, Jill, I spoke to the staff at Borman recently. 107 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,320 And as I stood in the library at Borman, I said, you know, 108 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,480 y'all deserve a new building. 109 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:37,820 I went to Borman as well. 110 00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:46,880 But I said, I was standing here when President Reagan was shot, and they said he was shot. 111 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,420 Staff here is entirely too young. 112 00:07:50,980 --> 00:08:01,100 But the library looks exactly the same, but there is no memorabilia, if you will, to take in the way that we do for our high school. 113 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,820 We did do a little event, if you will, at Jennings before we brought it down. 114 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,940 So that will be a time line before we can turn it over to the city. 115 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:14,040 So we'll have another. 116 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:16,880 Yeah, just timing of that. 117 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,860 You know, once we move the teachers and all of their stuff out of the old 118 00:08:20,860 --> 00:08:24,060 Mormon into the new Mormons, and all the new furniture gets put 119 00:08:24,060 --> 00:08:27,100 in the new Mormon, there's still a little bit of asbestos 120 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:29,740 there's this abatement that we have to do before we can tear that school down. 121 00:08:30,780 --> 00:08:38,950 And so then after we get all of that done, you'll start seeing the building come down timeline of that. 122 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:47,670 I think our agreement with the city built by the year, I think it was August 28th. 123 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:49,630 I think which we don't wait for that. 124 00:08:49,810 --> 00:08:57,750 I mean, we're the first quarter of 27, we think we'll have that turned back over to the city so that they'll have a soft field in that location. 125 00:08:58,930 --> 00:09:00,590 This partnership has just been great. 126 00:09:00,830 --> 00:09:05,270 It's really working out to the benefit of the community 127 00:09:05,270 --> 00:09:08,870 as far as the swap and what everyone is willing to do. 128 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:10,830 And so it's very much appreciated. 129 00:09:11,350 --> 00:09:13,670 Did anyone else go to Borman here, by the way? 130 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:16,610 No, I don't know if people have been raised in the summer. 131 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:17,050 No! 132 00:09:18,530 --> 00:09:19,750 The best of people. 133 00:09:20,450 --> 00:09:21,510 They're great artists. 134 00:09:23,490 --> 00:09:26,310 But you didn't go to Borman, and you go to Borman. 135 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:29,650 I mean, it's easy to get lost in Gorman, you know, it's just, 136 00:09:30,450 --> 00:09:32,470 if you were, that building was open concept building, 137 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:34,690 then it got turned into a smaller kind of room, 138 00:09:34,970 --> 00:09:35,310 sort of thing. 139 00:09:35,730 --> 00:09:36,610 So it's intricate. 140 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:38,190 Mr. Saffron? 141 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:38,690 Charlie. 142 00:09:39,070 --> 00:09:43,170 I know when we use SCF, we usually have some hard spaces 143 00:09:43,170 --> 00:09:43,810 for wind storm. 144 00:09:43,890 --> 00:09:45,110 Yeah, let's talk, do that. 145 00:09:46,530 --> 00:09:50,010 If I go to that, Charlie's Williams 146 00:09:50,010 --> 00:09:51,550 bringing up is the wall system here, 147 00:09:51,650 --> 00:09:53,310 and obviously the new code mandates 148 00:09:53,310 --> 00:09:55,510 that we built storm shelters at facilities. 149 00:09:55,510 --> 00:10:01,270 So the storm shelter of this particular building is the part that's already completed. 150 00:10:01,450 --> 00:10:04,510 It's the gymnasium. That is the storm shelter for this building. 151 00:10:04,650 --> 00:10:09,170 However, all of the walls in this particular building are ICF. 152 00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:12,210 If you don't know what that means, it's insulated concrete forms, 153 00:10:12,270 --> 00:10:13,170 where there's insulation. 154 00:10:13,630 --> 00:10:16,050 And insulation, if you put the rebar in the middle of the wall, 155 00:10:16,150 --> 00:10:18,930 gets, you know, anywhere from 12 to 18 inches thick. 156 00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:21,950 So they can all classify as hardened areas. 157 00:10:21,950 --> 00:10:28,070 The great thing about this is it does make a really robust building security-wise. 158 00:10:28,370 --> 00:10:31,790 You know, if you go to the old Texas A&M test where they shoot two before it's out of cannons 159 00:10:31,790 --> 00:10:36,070 into walls and see what will go through it, there's never going to be a two before that 160 00:10:36,070 --> 00:10:38,970 would go through any wall in this facility because it is hardened. 161 00:10:39,650 --> 00:10:45,270 But the storm shelter is a gem and it has its own bathroom facilities and all that, 162 00:10:45,390 --> 00:10:50,590 as ICC 500 code mandates for us to do in this particular building. 163 00:10:50,590 --> 00:10:55,590 But the entire building is built of the same wall system that you have on the storm shelter. 164 00:10:55,730 --> 00:10:58,870 The only difference would be the roofing system and the holes in the walls. 165 00:10:59,050 --> 00:11:00,090 The wind doesn't stuff like that. 166 00:11:01,710 --> 00:11:03,450 So what's the capacity? 167 00:11:03,770 --> 00:11:05,970 How many people can you cram in there tornado coming? 168 00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:08,050 You really put me on the spot here. 169 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:11,970 Six square foot per person is what the code requires. 170 00:11:12,270 --> 00:11:17,670 And if I remember right, it is our total building population plus 20%. 171 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:18,530 Something like that. 172 00:11:21,290 --> 00:11:26,570 But here's what I'm going to, I promise you that if we have an F5 tornado, I don't know 173 00:11:26,570 --> 00:11:28,330 any, I'm just going to speak for myself. 174 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:30,110 I don't need six square foot. 175 00:11:30,430 --> 00:11:32,250 You don't have to stand six square foot for me. 176 00:11:32,350 --> 00:11:36,530 You can tell where I don't know if it's an F5 tornado because I'm not going to really 177 00:11:36,530 --> 00:11:41,310 be worried about my own personal space if there's an F5 tornado and we're able 178 00:11:41,310 --> 00:11:43,010 to be in a facility that can withstand it. 179 00:11:43,070 --> 00:11:47,570 And this one obviously is a facility that's designed to withstand those kind of things. 180 00:11:50,270 --> 00:11:55,610 I was going to ask about parking, you know, we have that soft ball field over there, we're 181 00:11:55,610 --> 00:12:03,850 looking forward to soccer fields, will this school accommodate additional parking or will 182 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:06,650 we need additional parking or what are they going to work? 183 00:12:07,810 --> 00:12:12,210 Right where the soccer field is, we say all of the parking lots that were to the east 184 00:12:12,210 --> 00:12:16,670 of Bournemouth, all of those parking lots, the city is getting those parking lots. 185 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:20,210 So really, your soccer field now has twice the parking 186 00:12:20,210 --> 00:12:21,090 that it ever did. 187 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:24,130 Handicapped accessible ramps, handicapped accessible parking 188 00:12:24,130 --> 00:12:26,570 where previously, your soccer field was kind of located 189 00:12:26,570 --> 00:12:28,710 in the center portion of that park. 190 00:12:29,010 --> 00:12:30,770 And really, everybody had to walk to it. 191 00:12:31,090 --> 00:12:33,690 Now, the parking lot is right adjacent to your rec center. 192 00:12:34,210 --> 00:12:37,050 So all of that parking you ganked. 193 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:40,710 And then we also added a road to the south 194 00:12:40,710 --> 00:12:42,790 of this school, Grapple Road. 195 00:12:43,270 --> 00:12:44,350 I didn't make it. 196 00:12:44,350 --> 00:13:01,910 But and then we also put an entrance ramp off of the new road into your parking lot so that nobody now how that the little intersection over there was kind of kind of a poor intersection and just because how things built so I would say the parking it has increased 100% from what you previously had. 197 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:06,230 Any other questions? 198 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:09,600 Okay, thank you very much. 199 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:16,060 That takes us to item B. 200 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,760 ID 2602-0804 hold the stuff and get it regarding 201 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:23,180 citizen construction projects surrounding 202 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:24,500 Denton ISD campus. 203 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:25,840 Also 204 00:13:36,660 --> 00:13:38,140 weighing Interim Director of Parks and Rec 205 00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:41,360 so our CNI will be sharing updates for 206 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,240 public construction projects that impact Denton ISD. 207 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:53,440 First up is Denia Park. The Denia Park Administration is a major infrastructure and amenity update. 208 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:03,120 The project consists of grading the softball fields for improved drainage, electrical and lighting updates, new fencing, new trails, 209 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:09,560 restroom renovations and ADA accessibility upgrades. This phase of the project is complete. 210 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:16,120 The final phase of the project will be the addition of the new soccer fields upon completion 211 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,900 of this new form of elementary and demolition of the former form of elementary. 212 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,460 And you can see here everything that's light in color is complete and in the new field. 213 00:14:29,730 --> 00:14:32,450 You can have a time like that Snor. 214 00:14:34,890 --> 00:14:42,110 Also the Natatorium opened in 2003 and has just undergone its first major renovations 215 00:14:42,110 --> 00:14:48,050 since it was built. It got a new roof, was power washed inside and out, everything has 216 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:52,890 been cleaned, it's free, not going to cranny. The windows and doors have been sealed, the 217 00:14:52,890 --> 00:14:58,110 restrooms and hallways painted, the sidewalks have been repaired. There's an entirely new 218 00:14:58,110 --> 00:14:59,810 pump room, the pool deck. 219 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:11,700 Full shell were renewed. New landmines and reels have been installed, new lifeguard chairs, new ADA chair, new UV lights and new full lights. 220 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:20,740 This just finished off on March 23rd, and we're done. 221 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,180 One of those men working on the flight, John Easter Egg. 222 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:28,740 Those are the filters in the pump room. 223 00:15:29,940 --> 00:15:30,380 Yes. 224 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,420 Good afternoon, everybody. 225 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Seth Garcia, Director of Capital Products, is an analyst in said. 226 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,720 So a lot of you guys have seen this information, 227 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,060 so I'll run through it quickly. 228 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,560 We're going to start looking at our Bonnie Brae area 229 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,540 or your Dent High School and Reed's Elementary area. 230 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,020 So to start out, Bonnie Brae phase six, 231 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,580 so we are in active construction. 232 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,880 We're getting really close to being complete with our 233 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,780 underground work, which is our storm drain 234 00:15:58,780 --> 00:15:59,820 and water line sections. 235 00:15:59,820 --> 00:16:06,020 You may have seen recently we started subgrade operations there at the north end near 77. 236 00:16:06,580 --> 00:16:11,840 Again our plan for this section is build what will be the future southbound lanes, get all 237 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,320 the traffic moved over onto those future southbound lanes, and then build the northbound lanes. 238 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:21,000 So we're hoping late April, early May you're going to start seeing the first concrete 239 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,820 sections going down, making good progress out there. 240 00:16:26,020 --> 00:16:30,440 Again, this is a picture of the section of Rhiney Road in front of Reed's Elementary 241 00:16:30,980 --> 00:16:34,180 that we expedited and almost made it before school open. 242 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:34,920 We're really close. 243 00:16:37,190 --> 00:16:38,730 So this is a great update for you guys. 244 00:16:38,930 --> 00:16:43,950 So Rhiney Road East is the rest of the expansion here in front of Reed's Elementary going 245 00:16:43,950 --> 00:16:45,770 back to the east towards US 77. 246 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:48,690 So we've actually begun construction on this project. 247 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:53,150 A portion of this project was to build concrete trails through Northlake's Park 248 00:16:53,150 --> 00:16:56,510 to connect the park section to the back of the elementary school. 249 00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:59,130 That's where our contractor is currently working. 250 00:16:59,790 --> 00:17:04,010 We're also preparing some utility relocations there on the roadway section. 251 00:17:04,330 --> 00:17:07,970 They're moving some fire hydrants back along the park section. 252 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:11,990 So you'll see a subgrade work happening in that section soon as well. 253 00:17:12,370 --> 00:17:17,430 So we're under construction. They started in March and we're anticipating being done Q1 in 2017. 254 00:17:18,370 --> 00:17:19,570 Where are the trans, please? 255 00:17:20,730 --> 00:17:27,170 So they're not shown here, but essentially from the last pavilion on Northlake's Park 256 00:17:27,170 --> 00:17:34,650 that's in between kind of the soccer fields and the play areas, we will be extending a 257 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:38,890 trail along the sides of the soccer fields, in between the soccer and football fields 258 00:17:38,890 --> 00:17:41,070 and then north into the back of the school site. 259 00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:46,830 So hold on, first, can you repeat the question and then two, can we hold the question? 260 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:48,010 Yes, sir. 261 00:17:48,010 --> 00:17:51,410 So, the question was where are the trails going through Northlake's Park? 262 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:59,630 And so, at Northlake's Park, if you're familiar with the site, there's a large pavilion just to the north of the playground area. 263 00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:02,450 We're essentially going to connect onto existing trails there. 264 00:18:02,850 --> 00:18:06,070 We're going to run along the east side of the soccer fields. 265 00:18:06,290 --> 00:18:16,590 We'll cut in between the soccer and football fields along the existing concrete path and then run north along the parking lot to the back of the school site. 266 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:28,100 So next, our Westgate Road connector project, this is what connects Bronco Way to the service road. 267 00:18:28,540 --> 00:18:33,760 So we are substantially complete. We were able to get some lanes of traffic open back right around Christmas. 268 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:40,340 They're finishing some various punch list items, but again, hopefully this is alleviated some of the traffic there in high school. 269 00:18:41,140 --> 00:18:44,620 We are planning to be done by the end of this month with punch list items. 270 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:48,040 So we will be out of there and we'll have all four lanes open for traffic. 271 00:18:51,660 --> 00:18:56,940 So, Neighborhood 2 and 6, this is one of our bond packages from our 2019 Street Reconstruction 272 00:18:56,940 --> 00:18:57,300 Bond. 273 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,540 This whole package of 2 and 6 is roughly 120 segments. 274 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Some of them impacted the areas around the old Calhoun site, and we have several street 275 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,380 segments around the new Calhoun site and Newton razor. 276 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Good news here. 277 00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:12,940 We're finishing up a majority of that work. 278 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,700 We've been waiting on activists to pick up some of their low pressure relocations. 279 00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:21,800 So you'll continue to see some ongoing work in the area through the summer, early fall, 280 00:19:22,140 --> 00:19:26,700 but we are on track to be complete by quarter 4 of 2026 with all the construction. 281 00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:33,470 So some more good updates, safe routes to schools. 282 00:19:33,570 --> 00:19:37,270 So we had four sites that we were working on, SRTS projects. 283 00:19:37,650 --> 00:19:39,310 We are complete with all four. 284 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:41,650 So this is the last time you'll see these slides. 285 00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:47,930 Here's some photos of the completed sidewalk segments at Pecan Creek and Schultz Elementary. 286 00:19:49,610 --> 00:19:54,190 And then also along Jennings and Alexander Elementary School. 287 00:19:54,350 --> 00:19:57,630 So we had various sidewalk segments that were completed with those grant funds. 288 00:19:58,090 --> 00:19:58,950 We are done. 289 00:19:59,330 --> 00:20:03,310 So hopefully the students are able to enjoy those pieces of site. 290 00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:07,340 And then one more piece of good news. 291 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,340 So our Transportation Services Department has been actively pursuing some grants. 292 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,360 They were just awarded 4.6 million in a new Safe Routes to School program. 293 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:21,460 So this is going to be around the Calhoun Middle School Newton Racer site. 294 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:27,220 So we're in the early, early stages of initiation and planning moving into design. 295 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,880 So essentially we'll look at all areas within roughly a half mile of that school or both 296 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,460 school sites and see what we need to do for pedestrian and safety. 297 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:43,400 So that could be sidewalks, trails, bike lanes, at a minimum, I think Crescent 298 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,720 and Malone is going to get a refresh for some of the pedestrian infrastructure 299 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,680 So over the next 12 months, we'll be evaluating what all needs to happen, and then probably 300 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,260 at our next meeting, I'll have a good scope, a clarification update to give you guys on 301 00:20:57,260 --> 00:20:57,940 what we're going to be doing. 302 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,000 And that is all I have. 303 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:02,900 Take any questions? 304 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:04,920 Thank you. 305 00:21:05,420 --> 00:21:05,820 Mayor Perken. 306 00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:08,260 Mayor, would you like us to go from base topic by topic? 307 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,240 Because let me have questions about all of them. 308 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760 No, I don't have any questions. 309 00:21:15,380 --> 00:21:15,720 Yeah, yeah. 310 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:16,680 Sure, sure. 311 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,540 So I did ask parents for, you know, what questions they were wondering about. 312 00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:23,740 So Bonnie Brake face six. 313 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:33,240 They're still ongoing safety concerns from parents who kind of live in the King's Bridge site of Bonnie Brake traveling to reach out injury with their students. 314 00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:37,860 They're concerned about lack of traffic signals temporary safe crossings and street lights. 315 00:21:37,860 --> 00:21:42,840 Alright, so my question on that one is what safety measures are currently being taken and 316 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,720 do we have opportunities for any further safety measures at that intersection of Ryania Body Break? 317 00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:53,100 Yeah, great question. So this is a challenge that we've faced. Again, there was not existing infrastructure out there. 318 00:21:53,260 --> 00:21:56,740 A lot of the sidewalks came from one side to this intersection and dead ended. 319 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:03,520 So we try to provide as much access as much as safe access as we could as quickly as possible. 320 00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:09,180 Again, we were able to install some temporary crossings to come across at this intersection 321 00:22:09,180 --> 00:22:11,200 to focus the students towards the schools. 322 00:22:12,060 --> 00:22:14,560 We can evaluate it and see what else can be done. 323 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,740 Again, as we go through and actually start our painting pieces, you'll see sidewalks 324 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:23,060 and other pieces that will come in along North-South Bonnie Brake. 325 00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:26,920 Again, that will provide more opportunity for us to do additional pieces. 326 00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:31,220 Again, the last thing we want to do is put students in an unsafe area because 327 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:32,980 this is an active construction zone. 328 00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:38,240 So just north and south of this intersection. We're going to have paving operations going on on both sides 329 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,280 So the safest thing for us is to keep students out of those areas so we can work 330 00:22:43,940 --> 00:22:47,760 But again any time we can evaluate and open up an area 331 00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:51,460 Safely for students to get through we'll continue to do that 332 00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:54,120 Kind of still on that intersection 333 00:22:54,120 --> 00:23:01,380 I think some residents thought that the city was saying by August 20th that that intersection would be fully complete 334 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:09,360 like 100% complete. What what completion did the city actually mean and when with the traffic lights 335 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:14,640 and all the final final stuff we added? Yeah no great question. So what we meant by complete was 336 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,640 permanent painting installed through that intersection. So part of our phasing plane 337 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,820 initially had this broken out with several closures. We kind of remodified that phasing 338 00:23:22,820 --> 00:23:26,560 plane with our contractor to build it in halves with a little shoe fly if you all 339 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:33,100 remember around the existing intersection that was there. Sidewalks, ramps, traffic signal 340 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:36,180 conduits are typically some of the last things that you're going to see towards the end of 341 00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:41,040 the project. So as we go through and complete out the paving, we want radiuses, we want 342 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:46,060 ramps put in. So as they start boring conduits for signals, we make sure that they're 343 00:23:46,060 --> 00:23:51,100 out of the way of where the pavement improvements are. I don't have an exact off the top of 344 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:54,980 my head when that will fall into the exact schedule. Again, it's kind of dependent 345 00:23:54,980 --> 00:23:59,080 and on setting some of those permanent pieces with the paving. But again, we'll work to 346 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,480 expand everything that we can to get that signal out. 347 00:24:02,260 --> 00:24:05,920 I assume the signals will go in after the north-south lanes are constructed. 348 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,720 That is correct. And then the closure, I guess, 349 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,860 intermittent closures between Conquest and North Elm. I think there was a closure 350 00:24:14,860 --> 00:24:18,700 up until March 23rd, and I guess it's intermittently still closed. Do we have 351 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:22,960 an estimated timeline of when those intermittent closures would go? Yeah, so if it's not 352 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,680 open already. It should be getting open pretty quickly. We were installing the final pieces 353 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,260 of drainage infrastructure that were crossing perpendicular. There's a couple of waters 354 00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:35,260 of the U.S. right there. There are some small creek channels that probably shouldn't be 355 00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:39,840 waters of the U.S. that are. So we were getting our final box culverts through there. 356 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:45,620 As soon as that's open again, we wouldn't have another closure until we get that south 357 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:50,060 side poured and everybody moved over. So again, we're trying to minimize those 358 00:24:55,020 --> 00:25:01,980 And then what accommodations will there be on Bonnie Brae for people using scooters like 359 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:02,240 students? 360 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,660 Yeah, so part of our entire Bonnie Brae program from phase 1 to phase 6, we're going to have 361 00:25:07,660 --> 00:25:09,820 at least a 10 foot trail on one side. 362 00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:15,780 So for this section on the east side of the roadway from US 3 on all the way to US 77, 363 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,620 there will be a 10 foot trail on the west side of the roadway. 364 00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:23,380 we're going to have a six foot and eight foot sidewalk just depending on which section that 365 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:28,100 grant. So you're going to have larger than normal sidewalks on both sides. Again, on the east side, 366 00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:33,540 on the park side, you will have a 10 foot trail that will accommodate bikes, pedestrians, anything. 367 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,360 Second to last, lighting. Is there any lighting plan for the side pass 368 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:43,800 and also a long body brake racing? Yes. So not specific to the side pass, 369 00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:49,040 but our street lighting will accommodate for lighting across those trails. So we'll have 370 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,460 of lighting all the way from US 382, US 77, 371 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,500 the section of Reining Road. 372 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:56,700 They're actually putting in conduits right now 373 00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:58,100 in front of the elementary school. 374 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,120 And then with the Reining Road East project, 375 00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:04,100 we extend that lighting all the way to 77 on the East side. 376 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,580 So full lighting everywhere. 377 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:08,820 I'll pass it back to Mayor on this Albany brand, 378 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,420 Reining, in case anybody else has questions. 379 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,380 OK, come for a bit. 380 00:26:20,550 --> 00:26:28,370 I had some of the same questions that my pretend did, I guess, as we stage these things and 381 00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:32,090 we have temporary access as the phasing goes forward, 382 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,520 what's the plan for the phasing of 383 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,400 various temporary biped measures, if you know it, and how are we going to communicate 384 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,740 that? 385 00:26:45,650 --> 00:26:47,190 Yeah, so great question. 386 00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:50,730 A lot of the communication, the best place to go is our disgusted website. 387 00:26:50,730 --> 00:26:54,090 There, you'll get frequent updates at least monthly. 388 00:26:54,690 --> 00:26:59,970 You can also ask project managers or it'll have project manager contact information that 389 00:26:59,970 --> 00:27:00,750 you can reach out to. 390 00:27:01,290 --> 00:27:05,510 So that's where we always like to point people for the most valid updates. 391 00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:11,070 For temporary, again, a lot of this is going to depend on the scope of work that's happening. 392 00:27:11,770 --> 00:27:16,010 One of the questions we get asked a lot is, we want temporary things where existing 393 00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:18,670 pedestrian infrastructure didn't exist before. 394 00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:19,870 That's hard to do. 395 00:27:19,870 --> 00:27:30,050 So where existing sidewalks are, we're either going to clearly sign that, hey, this is currently closed while we install drainage boxes or roadway improvements. 396 00:27:30,610 --> 00:27:42,830 Again, part of our phasing plan will install those sidewalks with the concrete roadway that's coming through. So as soon as we can get sections open that are safe and we'll get you somewhere, we'll open those up to the public. 397 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:50,690 Are you designing alternative paths for folks that have to use bike path access to the schools? 398 00:27:51,650 --> 00:27:55,350 I mean, are we going through other directions, even if it's more roundabout? 399 00:27:55,810 --> 00:28:01,690 Yeah, we're currently not just because a lot of those areas did not have existing pedestrian pathways. 400 00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:06,770 So if they were riding on the street, they can continue riding on the street through the work zone. 401 00:28:06,770 --> 00:28:10,550 but we didn't have any continuous places of sidewalk 402 00:28:10,550 --> 00:28:13,550 that came to any of the school system there currently. 403 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:16,770 I'm gonna encourage you to be on the thing, 404 00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:19,530 these things around schools to be as proactive 405 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:23,410 and as push-centric as possible to make it 406 00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:27,850 so that people can get timely updates, 407 00:28:28,450 --> 00:28:30,130 push to them as much as you can. 408 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:30,770 Thank you, sir. 409 00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:31,330 Absolutely. 410 00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:33,610 That's always good. 411 00:28:34,890 --> 00:28:35,230 Anyone? 412 00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:51,910 Thank you the east end of sunset between Carol and Bolliver okay is that is that imminent 413 00:28:51,910 --> 00:28:58,930 to me is it to be to be knocked out or finished soon yes so I believe you're referring to in 414 00:28:58,930 --> 00:29:04,530 the two and six project yeah so we had our first portion to painting go down I think 415 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:09,410 a little over a week ago. So as soon as they get all the remainder of the concrete flat 416 00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:15,390 work they'll finish the last two layers of asphalt. Part of that will be curbed for the 417 00:29:15,390 --> 00:29:24,110 first time ever. Yes. Yes, section between all of them. Right, adjacent to the corner. 418 00:29:24,510 --> 00:29:26,230 Yes sir. Very nice. Thank you. 419 00:29:28,450 --> 00:29:31,570 Because we're just here. I've got a couple of questions. 420 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:35,790 I don't think I need to take everyone's time for but if I could just catch you 421 00:29:35,790 --> 00:29:37,150 you may be in between meetings today. 422 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:37,710 I've got a couple. 423 00:29:38,050 --> 00:29:38,650 Yes ma'am. 424 00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:39,050 Thank you. 425 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:42,900 Thanks to questions. 426 00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:44,860 I did get parent feedback. 427 00:29:45,260 --> 00:29:47,080 They love the sidewalks by Alexander. 428 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:49,160 So I guess parents are using those 429 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,980 and they really like that. 430 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,720 They're really excited about the Safe Rocks to School 431 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,960 Projects around Newton-Razer, if their parents are. 432 00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,980 Two questions about Westgate slash Bronco Way. 433 00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:28,040 Yeah, so that part of the road was built by development. We actually recently had a question that came through mobility committee about the same section. So I got with D and me, they don't have a current project there, but now that we've been notified, we can start programming it into either the capital plan or the street behind the pipe between me to see if we can get street lights added in. 434 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,480 but currently there is no project for that section. 435 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,460 And then final question, I heard from a Westgate resident 436 00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:38,840 that I think their understanding was the plan was 437 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,320 for northbound traffic on Westgate 438 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,320 that they cannot turn right on Brock away 439 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,760 heading towards that high school. 440 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,640 I was able to find the video 441 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,080 where I think it was supposed to be a bug out 442 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,440 to discourage it, but you can't 100% deny people 443 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,240 from turning right. 444 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,600 So I don't necessarily need an answer, 445 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:56,160 but just that's something that the neighbors 446 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:56,900 are concerned about. 447 00:30:56,900 --> 00:31:04,700 I guess a lot of cut-through traffic coming up Westgate to skip all the traffic on Bonning Bay and applying down Westgate. It sounds like yeah 448 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:12,600 So we do have signage that's going in there that says no right turn left turn only and not a student drop-off location 449 00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:20,060 Again part of the geometry of the roadway does point for a footed left out to try and force people to go back towards 35 450 00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:23,860 So again once we get all the infrastructure installed and that is complete 451 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:28,680 We can probably reach out to PD and see if some sort of enforcement or something there can help 452 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,360 But we did not include the pork chop design. There were some concerns with our transportation department on 453 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,180 How that was going to impact people are just going to drive around it and do the wrong thing like a torches 454 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,600 So again, we can we can continue looking at some other options down before 455 00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:47,300 Right any other questions 456 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,760 Good example on torches. That's a challenge. 457 00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:56,420 Just as H.E.B. is going in. 458 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,920 So a couple of things. The, 459 00:32:01,780 --> 00:32:06,220 we can go back to the screen. There was a, I mean, a second slide, woman. 460 00:32:08,530 --> 00:32:13,230 And if I could get someone from the school board's input. 461 00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:19,790 So, I'm assuming they'll come in near the south there, that's the front of the school. 462 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:24,670 And then I'm just curious about the QE, you know, because it'll wrap around in a good way. 463 00:32:24,790 --> 00:32:31,370 So if it's against that north curve, is there enough space for people to leave? 464 00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:36,690 So Mary, how the QE is, those roads are now going to be one way in and one way out. 465 00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:41,330 The road, planned west, as we look at to the left, that is the entrance. 466 00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:47,430 if you're coming from the school is still facing the Borman community as always so you 467 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:51,390 will enter from that road you will drop off and you will leave through the road that's 468 00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:55,930 right there by the rec center so those will be one way and so you can imagine the queuing 469 00:32:55,930 --> 00:33:02,390 there is massive compared to what we previously had so you can queue all the way down you'll 470 00:33:02,390 --> 00:33:06,130 drop off your suit at your passenger door or the passenger side and then you will 471 00:33:06,130 --> 00:33:10,010 leave right there by the between the rec center and the soccer field one way out 472 00:33:10,010 --> 00:33:14,870 Yeah, and so that is still the front of the school there. There is an entrance from the back 473 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:20,370 We typically like to separate but that's for our cars from buses 474 00:33:20,370 --> 00:33:20,850 Yeah 475 00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:25,790 So the plan right now is that buses will enter from the south road 476 00:33:25,790 --> 00:33:28,890 Drop off and leave so that we don't mix those together 477 00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:33,590 And there's also a door that they can enter from that side as well that will be man 478 00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:39,110 So we'll have parents dropping off the front back riders walkers coming from the front 479 00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:40,570 and we have us to come from the south. 480 00:33:40,910 --> 00:33:41,650 Thank you. 481 00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:42,350 Appreciate that. 482 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:48,090 And then if you want to touch on the McKinney sidewalk, 483 00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:49,950 because that will help also with Alex. 484 00:33:50,270 --> 00:33:52,190 Now, again, I don't know if we have anything 485 00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:54,910 to help them cross the street, but if you 486 00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:55,610 can touch on that project. 487 00:33:55,630 --> 00:33:58,750 So we had an interim project for McKinney sidewalks. 488 00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:01,350 This goes from Loop 288 on the east 489 00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:03,110 all the way to Woodrow, Audra. 490 00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:05,090 So that has begun construction. 491 00:34:05,230 --> 00:34:07,470 They are in the process of taking right away and starting. 492 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:09,930 And so you're gonna have a variable width sidewalk 493 00:34:09,930 --> 00:34:12,870 that is continuous on the south side of the roadway 494 00:34:12,870 --> 00:34:17,150 all the way from Loop 288 to the Woodrow Audra section. 495 00:34:17,390 --> 00:34:18,750 And I believe we're supposed to be done 496 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:20,190 in roughly six months for that. 497 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:22,510 It just began construction and launch. 498 00:34:23,090 --> 00:34:25,830 And then similarly, you wanna touch on Woodrow 499 00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:28,930 and more the signal light, the status, 500 00:34:29,090 --> 00:34:30,050 because that affects. 501 00:34:30,910 --> 00:34:33,450 Yeah, that is actually our transportation services group. 502 00:34:33,830 --> 00:34:35,990 I don't know, I know various infrastructure 503 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:39,810 is going in, the ramps are in, the signal should be going up, I would estimate within 504 00:34:39,810 --> 00:34:42,850 the next few months you'll see the signal up and activated at that intersection. 505 00:34:43,050 --> 00:34:47,590 So those buses trying to get out on Audra and all those things or parents getting in 506 00:34:47,590 --> 00:34:54,370 across that, that'll be much improved. And then lastly, and this is not on your presentation 507 00:34:54,370 --> 00:34:59,350 but related, so two things, Calvin, is there someone driving by there every now 508 00:34:59,350 --> 00:35:05,250 again just to make sure no one's moving in right and delicate as I can say it but 509 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:10,730 to have have we continued discussions about the tennis court and how we can 510 00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:16,970 activate those areas of work together on those I can talk about that we are 511 00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:22,230 personal recreation has just taken possession of the tennis courts and the 512 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:29,330 field space in front of the old Calvin Middle School we are going to go 513 00:35:29,330 --> 00:35:37,670 to the John B. Denton Neighborhood Association meeting in April to engage the community about 514 00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:43,330 what they would like to see those courts become. They'll still be courts, but are they, right 515 00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:47,810 now they're tennis courts. Do they want basketball? Would they like pickleball? What, what kind 516 00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:53,370 of court activities would they prefer to have there? We'll take input from the meeting 517 00:35:53,370 --> 00:36:00,150 and we'll also have an online form to engage the greater community and then fairly immediately 518 00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:05,470 do some improvements on those courts, repair the concrete, make sure that everything is 519 00:36:05,470 --> 00:36:09,810 safe for play and set those up to be what they shall become. 520 00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:11,390 Okay, great. 521 00:36:11,650 --> 00:36:12,310 Thank you for that update. 522 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:18,390 And then lastly, again, not on your slides, but I would advocate and it's a not today 523 00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:20,010 thing, but I'm just planting a seed. 524 00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:24,090 I would love for the city to facilitate a meeting 525 00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:27,030 with the city, the school district and tech stock 526 00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:29,670 to talk about access from University Drive 527 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:32,670 to what was Newton Razor's site 528 00:36:32,670 --> 00:36:36,190 because I think it adds value if we can navigate that. 529 00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:37,710 And if it, you know, again, 530 00:36:37,870 --> 00:36:41,130 it's whatever that is to bridge that gap there 531 00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:43,190 or find that alternative access. 532 00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:45,330 But I think when we're trying to help our pay, 533 00:36:45,790 --> 00:36:49,070 the numbers are substantial, you know, 534 00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:55,510 The value added between Starbucks and those other things that came back on the tax rolls. 535 00:36:55,750 --> 00:37:00,570 So in this instance, to add value to that piece of property, I think that had university 536 00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:07,690 access from university drive, it enhances that and just helps us all by proxy. 537 00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:12,830 So I would think there would be that the accrued meeting to have to try to see if we 538 00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:21,130 You can one, figure out how to span that ditch area that run off or whatever, and two, so 539 00:37:21,130 --> 00:37:25,870 that they can market that as access or, you know, pending approval or all those things. 540 00:37:26,050 --> 00:37:32,230 But for what it's worth, I think that's a great opportunity to help them help everyone 541 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:38,730 else and I think it enhances the quality of the project because the alternative is 542 00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:45,320 somebody's going to put a multi-family thing on there or something, you know, just I just 543 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,660 like to see it highest and best use, right? 544 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,080 So, understood? 545 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,100 Any other questions? 546 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:51,500 Great. 547 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,380 Thank you very much. 548 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:53,760 That 549 00:37:57,340 --> 00:38:07,580 takes us to item C. I need 260207, see reportable discussion regarding property tax 550 00:38:07,580 --> 00:38:11,300 exemptions and multi-family affordable housing in the city again. 551 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:12,040 Good 552 00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,100 afternoon, Council and Trustees. 553 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,660 My name is Jessica and I'm the Director of Community Services for the City of Denton. 554 00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:31,000 And I'm excited to talk to you about tax exemptions and affordable housing. 555 00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:37,090 But one in every three renting household according to the American Community Survey, the census 556 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:39,690 is severely cost burdened. 557 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:43,190 That means they pay more than half of their income in rent every month. 558 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:47,330 And 58% are cost burdened. 559 00:38:47,390 --> 00:38:49,990 They pay more than a third of their income in rent every month. 560 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:55,930 And so over the past several months, the city has been evaluating our affordable housing 561 00:38:55,930 --> 00:39:02,110 programming and looking at ways that we can improve the ways we're incentivizing affordable 562 00:39:02,110 --> 00:39:03,650 housing development in the city. 563 00:39:06,810 --> 00:39:09,470 We're going to do a little bit of drinking from a firehouse here. 564 00:39:09,570 --> 00:39:13,510 There's so much to talk about around affordable housing and so many things that are relevant. 565 00:39:14,270 --> 00:39:16,710 There are two really important topics or concepts. 566 00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:20,310 There's one it's the median income, the area median income, and the other is 567 00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:21,030 rental restrictions. 568 00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:26,050 So, affordable housing in the United States lists an income through the lens of area median 569 00:39:26,050 --> 00:39:26,570 income. 570 00:39:27,350 --> 00:39:29,110 A lot of them are federal programs. 571 00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:36,690 Any program that has to serve 350 million people is going to lose nuance throughout it. 572 00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:44,090 And so, when we look at income here in our community, we are looked in with the Dallas 573 00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:44,990 Fair Market region. 574 00:39:45,370 --> 00:39:46,990 I've got it mapped out in here in blue. 575 00:39:47,790 --> 00:39:54,010 and there are a lot of high-income areas within that blue area. So typically, housing programs 576 00:39:54,010 --> 00:40:00,450 focus on those households at 30, 50, and 80% of that area median income. Those are considered 577 00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:06,970 low-income households. And for the purposes of these programs, we're measured against them in 578 00:40:06,970 --> 00:40:15,650 2024. The Denton's median income was $80,900, but we are held to the affordability standards 579 00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:22,230 There's an income for the Dallas fire market region, which is significantly higher at 148 580 00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:22,630 percent. 581 00:40:22,930 --> 00:40:28,210 Vents and households just in general, according to this definition, are considered low income. 582 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,300 So what does that look like in terms of actual incomes when we look at a household of four 583 00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:45,530 at low, that is considered low income, that's set at that $93,850 a year at very low 584 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:51,670 income or 50% AMI, you're at $50,000, $650,000, and then the extremely low income households 585 00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:59,710 are those that earn $35,000 or less for that household of four. These scale based on the 586 00:40:59,710 --> 00:41:06,910 household size. So as the household size decreases, the amount of money that you need to be able 587 00:41:06,910 --> 00:41:10,410 to pay rent to live in a household that accommodates a family at that size decreases 588 00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:12,990 is a lot of it, and it steps through this function. 589 00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:18,470 So you have income, and on the other side, 590 00:41:18,590 --> 00:41:22,990 there are rental limits. So HUD's programming that incentivizes affordable housing, that 591 00:41:22,990 --> 00:41:29,830 provides incentives, monetary benefits, other programs looks and says, for those households 592 00:41:29,830 --> 00:41:37,090 that make those incomes, what would we need to cap the rent at so that they weren't 593 00:41:37,090 --> 00:41:39,630 paying a substantial portion of their income in rent? 594 00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:47,410 So, these are the rental limits that are most often applied here in the city of Denton 595 00:41:47,410 --> 00:41:48,450 for those programs. 596 00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:57,140 So, for example, that four-person household could choose to rent that's making 93,850 597 00:41:57,690 --> 00:42:04,690 a year, could rent a three-bedroom apartment that has taken advantage of these incentives 598 00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:09,990 or these financing in some way, they cannot be charged more than $2,400 a month in rent, 599 00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:17,090 $2,400 to $41. We look at income for our region. We say based on that income, households 600 00:42:17,090 --> 00:42:21,670 should only pay this much. Based on that reasoning, we set rental limits for programming. 601 00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:29,830 So when we look at the most common occupations here in Denton and compare that with where 602 00:42:29,830 --> 00:42:38,070 we see the Market Rent Act. These are the top ten highest, excuse me, largest workforce 603 00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:44,650 industries or not industries but professions within Denton County. They account for about 604 00:42:44,650 --> 00:42:52,850 22% of all Denton workers. And you can see that based on their income, what 30% of it 605 00:42:52,850 --> 00:42:57,590 is, they don't often reach a level that makes housing affordable for us. 606 00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:00,640 When we 607 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:08,100 replace income restrictions on units, say at the 50% AMI level, it becomes more affordable 608 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:14,900 but still not that definition of affordable for a lot of folks. And then when you do 30%, 609 00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,880 that's when you're really reaching a level that is affordable that folks are able to 610 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,560 provide affordability. The very last one is what I found online for starting DISD 611 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,280 school teacher salary. So just for your benefit. 612 00:43:31,290 --> 00:43:32,650 Again, housing is considered 613 00:43:32,650 --> 00:43:37,010 affordable if a low-income household spends 30% of their income or less on 614 00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:42,890 housing. So we have those income that were assessed against the Dallas region. 615 00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:48,750 We income qualify apartments that participated programming and we set 616 00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:53,230 rents based on those income levels. So income qualified apartments set rents 617 00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:57,510 based on what a household at their target AMI can afford based on that 618 00:43:57,510 --> 00:44:05,990 30% rule. In Denton, the market rate that we see here falls below the affordable rate 619 00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:14,410 for an 80% AMI event. So when we look at our programming, when we look at the projects 620 00:44:14,410 --> 00:44:22,170 we're trying to encourage, we are looking to encourage as much 50% and 30% AMI development 621 00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:28,520 as possible. Those are those units that we call affordable for dentin. So the 622 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,980 market rate if we were just kind of stacking on the AMI chart according to 623 00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:37,340 the the 2024 ACS was about 63%. So it falls right around that 63%. 624 00:44:40,990 --> 00:44:42,210 And that's 625 00:44:42,210 --> 00:44:47,970 not a trend that is new or it is suddenly happening. When we look at the 626 00:44:47,970 --> 00:44:52,190 rental rates and the income or excuse me the the market rate for the past 627 00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:59,590 10 years. That's been the case. Those low-income rental restrictions do not fall below. 628 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,960 For those 80% units do not fall below the market rate here in Denton. Those 50 and 30% units 629 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,860 have historically those the ones that are most likely to lead to a rental reduction for a resident. 630 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,400 So tax exemption. How does it play into all of these things? We've got people who are spending 631 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:30,740 too much of their money on rent. We have now categorized ourselves based on our region, what 632 00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:34,220 incomes are, and HUD has helped us set rental limits for them. 633 00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:41,020 Many affordable housing developments utilize tax exemptions as part of their financing structure 634 00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:45,880 to increase the affordability of the property, the idea being if you do not have to pay property 635 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,500 taxes, you do not need to recoup as much rental revenue, you can afford to charge less. 636 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,800 So in Denton, there are 22 properties with tax exemptions, and this is a little bit 637 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,060 There are six more that are in development, excuse me, in construction. 638 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,000 The number is a little bit higher now, but there are five different taxing exemptions 639 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,280 that a developer could use for these things. 640 00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:15,120 So when we estimate just on population data for the census of what the average household 641 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:21,760 size is for renting households, what portion of those are school-aged children we see 642 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,320 about, we estimate about 1650 children that are school-aged children that live in these 643 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,960 taxes and developments. And then we anticipate based on these ones that are in construction 644 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,260 and at least 500 more school-aged children that will need education. 645 00:46:39,820 --> 00:46:40,420 The business line, 646 00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:45,800 so it's a little bit better for posterity, but there are a number of different legal 647 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:52,200 vehicles that a developer or a complex can use to secure a tax exemption to provide 648 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:57,180 affordable housing. The city has public facility corporation. We don't, it's not currently 649 00:46:57,180 --> 00:47:02,920 active on any projects so we are not currently granting any tax exemptions. The Housing Authority 650 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,760 through Chapter 392 of the Texas Local Government Code is active and provides tax exemptions 651 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:14,260 for properties. There are housing finance corporations. There are CHODOs or community 652 00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:17,720 housing development organizations. And then there are just exemptions for nonprofits. 653 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:24,060 It's not really, we need to get too bogged down, but there are different ways to achieve 654 00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:26,220 a tax exemption to provide affordable housing. 655 00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:33,750 Okay, so putting all that together, there are people who are paying too much in rent. 656 00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:42,130 We need to find a way to reduce the rent, but these apartment complexes, they're businesses, 657 00:47:43,390 --> 00:47:49,390 They have to raise a certain amount of revenue and rent to be able to pay for their expenses 658 00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:52,230 as a community or as a state. 659 00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:57,550 There is not always a lot that we can do about what is the interest rate on lending, how 660 00:47:57,550 --> 00:48:02,230 much does construction cost, what is the going rate for personnel to run the development. 661 00:48:03,290 --> 00:48:07,050 But one thing that we can do that the state has given us tools to do is say, well, 662 00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:13,830 While we can eliminate this property tax expenditure for it, in exchange, you'll agree to cap rents 663 00:48:13,830 --> 00:48:16,790 at a certain amount for a certain number of units at certain levels. 664 00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:25,250 The idea is that when we eliminate that expense, we are able to retain balance in the budgets 665 00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:28,250 of these businesses while charging less for rent. 666 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:33,630 That's the intention of property tax exemptions in this concept. 667 00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:43,010 So when we look at our community, what we've seen is there are a lot of properties, a lot 668 00:48:43,010 --> 00:48:48,570 of valuation and revenue that is foregone by the three tax and jurisdictions, UL, the school 669 00:48:48,570 --> 00:48:54,850 district, the city, and the county, that we give up to try and provide affordable housing 670 00:48:54,850 --> 00:48:57,650 for our community because it is such an intense need. 671 00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:05,350 But what we found is that a lot of the rental restrictions that are exchanged for that revenue 672 00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:10,530 are often not at a level that lead to a rental reduction. 673 00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:17,230 I've got it broken out by market units because in some mixed unit developments, you can 674 00:49:17,230 --> 00:49:18,710 have market rate units in them. 675 00:49:18,770 --> 00:49:21,490 They help to balance and offset the cost of affordable units. 676 00:49:21,650 --> 00:49:22,050 That's great. 677 00:49:22,690 --> 00:49:24,330 We don't have a problem with market rate units. 678 00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:32,430 And there are 80% units, which is the majority of these tax exempt units, and that category 679 00:49:32,430 --> 00:49:34,430 also includes some 60% units. 680 00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:40,050 There's a good proportion of those that are actually 60% units, but when the city characterizes 681 00:49:40,050 --> 00:49:46,330 their housing plans and our strategy plans, strategic plans, excuse me, we include 60 682 00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:47,350 and 80% together. 683 00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:53,570 Those 60%s, if I can go back, again, that's right around where we've seen the market, 684 00:49:53,570 --> 00:49:56,010 it doesn't lead to a significant rental reduction. 685 00:49:58,730 --> 00:50:00,370 So based on the estimates, 686 00:50:00,490 --> 00:50:02,250 because we don't have complete data on rent, 687 00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:04,610 based on the data that we have available 688 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,970 and where we see the rental caps at, 689 00:50:07,470 --> 00:50:10,190 we estimate that our community is exchanging 690 00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:13,610 or we're foregoing about $15 million annually in revenue 691 00:50:14,180 --> 00:50:17,830 in exchange for $1.2 million in rental reductions. 692 00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:21,650 That might not be, that's our best estimate 693 00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:23,050 based on the information that we have. 694 00:50:24,010 --> 00:50:25,850 And that will continue to grow. 695 00:50:26,490 --> 00:50:29,890 There's 5,000 multifamily units in development in the City of Denton right now. 696 00:50:30,610 --> 00:50:33,990 Half of them are expected to have a property tax exemption. 697 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,920 So the City Council reviewed this data, reviewed this information. 698 00:50:41,020 --> 00:50:42,660 We had a work session last November. 699 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:51,280 And the City Council directed staff to change our policies on how we are affording our tax incentives. 700 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:58,920 So I didn't mention on the slide, but most of these tax exemptions occur without jurisdictional oversight. 701 00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:03,060 The city doesn't have to vote to approve. 702 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,880 The school district doesn't have to vote to approve. 703 00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:07,480 They can occur independent. 704 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:18,480 One way that we do have some saying the structure of these deals is through the federal government's low income housing tax credit program. 705 00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:24,340 And so council directed staff to amend the policy to ensure that we are trying to get 706 00:51:24,340 --> 00:51:29,480 as much or as many of those 30 and 50% units as possible. 707 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,020 I've already shared so much information. 708 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:37,500 I'm not going to dig in way too deep on housing tax credits, but they are distinct 709 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:38,720 from tax exemptions. 710 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,640 Tax credit, money from the federal government to help with construction. 711 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:48,760 When we look at this balancing act, the goal of housing tax credits is to reduce 712 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:55,120 that mortgage section. By reducing the mortgage section you can charge or rent. But house tax 713 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,440 credits are great. Money coming back from the federal government has no long-term tax 714 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,480 impact on any of our jurisdictions. It's money coming to our community to support 715 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:09,560 affordable housing. But they are often paired with property tax exemptions which do have 716 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,240 a long-term impact on revenue. 717 00:52:14,810 --> 00:52:19,410 So to help try and encourage more affordable housing 718 00:52:19,410 --> 00:52:26,030 develop the criteria by which the city will offer its approval for housing tax credit developments 719 00:52:26,770 --> 00:52:32,770 was changed but a higher focus on affordability. We're not awarding points on our matrix for those 720 00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:37,470 80 or 60 percent units because they don't tend to lead to a rental reduction or they're not 721 00:52:37,470 --> 00:52:43,710 required to provide a rental reduction and we're focused on those 30 and 50 percent units 722 00:52:44,330 --> 00:52:49,010 and because these tax credits are again going to be coming into the community and they don't 723 00:52:49,010 --> 00:52:54,230 necessarily have a long-term impact. We scale how many points we expect the development to 724 00:52:54,230 --> 00:53:00,490 have based on their property tax status. If they are a fully property tax development, we have a 725 00:53:00,490 --> 00:53:04,590 very low threshold. We think it's great. You want to provide affordable housing. We're happy to 726 00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:10,490 support you in your application to the federal government. If you are seeking a full property 727 00:53:10,490 --> 00:53:16,650 tax exemption paired with that tax credit, we would like to see some additional affordability 728 00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:22,490 to ensure that the revenue that we're all foregoing is being spent towards affordable 729 00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:29,290 housing development. And when we look at the distribution of tax exemptions in our community, 730 00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:36,370 we find that the property tax paying affordable housing developments actually provides a 731 00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:41,350 slightly higher proportion of 30% and 50% units than the property tax exempt developments. 732 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:49,360 So, the state legislature over the past few years has really been digging in on affordable 733 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,120 housing taxes. 734 00:53:52,060 --> 00:53:58,380 The PFC law was amended with the 88 legislative session, it required greater affordability, 735 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:04,620 required more accountability and transparency for these types of deals. 736 00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:12,680 Last legislative session, they changed the HFC part of the statute to require that 737 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:18,980 that what they found is that there were municipalities or governments across the state that were 738 00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:25,080 going to other communities signing deals to take multi-family off of the tax roll and 739 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,800 then netting a little bit of income off of that. 740 00:54:27,340 --> 00:54:29,840 So the state legislature said, we're not doing that anymore. 741 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:36,340 If you're going to have a taxes empty, you need the approval of the local jurisdiction 742 00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:37,960 for those housing finance corporations. 743 00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:44,520 And we're going to monitor the 90% to see if they're going to take any further action 744 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,740 amending these codes or the other codes that are related to tax exemptions and affordable 745 00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:49,120 housing. 746 00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:54,000 I'll stand for questions. 747 00:54:55,420 --> 00:54:56,660 Thank you very much. 748 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,840 I don't remind everyone what it is. 749 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,000 It's one, so we're in time to go right ahead. 750 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,860 Councilman Jessert. 751 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,600 First of all, thank you for this information. 752 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:11,080 I think this is very important for everyone to understand where we are as we say 753 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,160 affordable housing what we mean here in Denton and that that means something 754 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:21,960 different in going through the matrix that you also attached looking at the 755 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,000 length of time that some of these developments have been exempt from 756 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,720 property taxes. It seems that some of them have may not even by Denton 757 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:36,820 standards but even by our North Texas standards don't have any affordable 758 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,660 Do you know is there a mechanism, because it seems that these terms are indefinite, 759 00:55:44,620 --> 00:55:52,480 is there a mechanism to go back and say, you know, you have no 80%, 30%, 50%, why are you off the tax rolls? 760 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,140 There shouldn't be, so, and that might be the way we presented the information. 761 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:02,920 They all speak the state requirement, but there are a lot of developments that are on that list that have 50% 762 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:09,860 market rate are unrestricted, there's no rental restriction, and 50% or a very 763 00:56:09,860 --> 00:56:15,320 significant portion at 80%, which the those rental caps are not set at a 764 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,260 level where we kick in for our market rate. 765 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,020 There's also, I 766 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,300 see the one you're 767 00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:27,820 saying, the my 768 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,980 staff member. Just curious and I'm also you know curious 769 00:56:35,980 --> 00:56:44,200 Is there a mechanism by which council or do we need to go to the state level to say some 770 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:49,920 of these are not affordable housing and should not therefore continue indefinitely off the 771 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,160 tax rolls not contributing to our schools and city and county? 772 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,720 So the state legislature has taken action against some of these other projects. 773 00:56:59,020 --> 00:57:03,700 So for example, on the PFC deals which are constituted under 303, they went back 774 00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:10,260 said, these deals are not serving their intended purpose. Now, if you're going to provide a 775 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:16,420 tax exemption through this method for acquisitions, you can only, you have to ensure that 60 percent 776 00:57:16,420 --> 00:57:22,540 of the development provides an actual rental reduction to residents, or you don't get 777 00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:28,940 to keep it on the tax rolls. For the HFCs, the traveling HFCs, the state legislature 778 00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:36,800 was very had strong feelings about it and they made it to where these traveling HFCs 779 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:42,660 that were taking properties off the tax rolls across the state, they said not only are we 780 00:57:42,660 --> 00:57:45,720 not even going to wait until September to sign this in the law, I'm going to do it today, 781 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:51,320 but if you don't receive the municipality approval by January 2021, you lose your tax exemption. 782 00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:56,540 So it depends on what legislative action the state can take and now I'm getting too 783 00:57:57,940 --> 00:58:04,640 It could be something that this group together, you know, when we go down for counties, et cetera, 784 00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:09,100 if the will is there, of course, I'm not speaking for anyone else in the room, but I would be 785 00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:13,900 interested to see if there's a consensus to say this shouldn't be indefinite forever, 786 00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:19,040 circumstances change, and there should be, whether it's the state, county, or city, 787 00:58:19,820 --> 00:58:23,280 some kind of ability to review and revise. 788 00:58:24,340 --> 00:58:26,900 Anyways, that's my comment. Thank you so much again. 789 00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:35,250 Thank you. How are these things monitored? 790 00:58:35,810 --> 00:58:39,610 You get the tax break, but you don't actually 791 00:58:39,610 --> 00:58:43,630 provide low-income housing. How is that... 792 00:58:43,630 --> 00:58:45,230 How who monitors them? 793 00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:48,790 I think it depends on the agency that provides it. 794 00:58:48,930 --> 00:58:50,810 So, for example, housing tax credit, which 795 00:58:53,020 --> 00:58:53,360 I'm... 796 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,620 the state monitors those developments for the first 15 years, 797 00:58:56,620 --> 00:59:05,440 and then the IRS monitors it for the 15 years after that, as far as the other things, those 798 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,840 are probably monitored by the governing agencies, either the state or the tax exempting. 799 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:20,030 So if somebody goes in and looks at the inventory of units and numbers, you know, this many 800 00:59:20,030 --> 00:59:24,450 at market rate, this many at 30%, this many at... 801 00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:31,230 They they have to submit their their rental. Okay, but they don't require that it's necessarily a rental reduction 802 00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:34,190 They require that you are capping the rent at that level 803 00:59:34,970 --> 00:59:35,450 so 804 00:59:36,550 --> 00:59:42,270 Again an 8% unit doesn't guarantee a rental reduction. It's a commitment that they won't raise it above the threat. 805 00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:49,390 Any other questions 806 00:59:50,770 --> 00:59:53,050 Come from back. Thank you 807 00:59:53,830 --> 00:59:59,610 For for these things I understand that it's floating as the as the seal of the caps 808 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,500 Float with the various income levels for our region. Is the number that they agree to in 809 01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:16,260 their contracts float as well? I mean, if they agree to 15 units or 20 units or whatever the 810 01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:21,140 appropriate number is, what governs and who monitors the proportions? 811 01:00:21,580 --> 01:00:28,640 Yeah, it's set by those rental caps. So they say, for example, when we do a 212 agreement, 812 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:34,180 The one of the city's affordable incentive programs, when we approve a light tax property, 813 01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:40,180 we say we're going to provide 50% at this AMI. 814 01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:45,160 And so because the AMI restriction is tied to income, that's what fluctuates. 815 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:45,700 Okay. 816 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,860 But the number of units is going to stay fixed from the initial terms? 817 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,880 Or the number of the percent of units is going to stay fixed at the time? 818 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,900 I don't believe they change, but it would be governed by whatever the applicable law, 819 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,520 whichever of those five that they're in, that they're governed by, and the contracts 820 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,620 that they are providing. 821 01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:16,600 Because the state says a property tax exempts property under 303 will meet these requirements. 822 01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:24,740 It has to have at least 50% at 80% AMI, and I probably do some of that, but they 823 01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:31,560 they set these thresholds, and then the deals that these agencies that grant property tax 824 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,160 exemptions make with the developer, they're independent so long as they stay, they color 825 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:35,840 within the lines. 826 01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:36,660 Okay. 827 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,920 That's my question. 828 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,420 Thank you. 829 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,080 Okay. 830 01:01:41,340 --> 01:01:41,860 Any other questions? 831 01:01:45,850 --> 01:01:46,230 Very good. 832 01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:46,990 Thank you very much. 833 01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:47,570 I appreciate it. 834 01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:51,800 Well, that concludes it. 835 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,880 I'll let you close, and I'll close that for you, but I'll just say thank you 836 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,020 all very much always, and, you know, a lot of good information. 837 01:01:59,320 --> 01:01:59,580 I appreciate it. 838 01:01:59,580 --> 01:02:10,280 I appreciate the relationship we have with the ISD and the work y'all do, and the students y'all serve, and everyone top the bottom that makes all that go. 839 01:02:10,420 --> 01:02:21,420 A lot of looking forward to it. Thank you very much for that. And we will be, for those that don't know, we'll be hosting the Ryan State champs, girls state champs. 840 01:02:21,820 --> 01:02:36,440 I think that's our next meeting, something like that. But yeah, so we'll have them at City Hall if y'all want to come in just to make sure everyone knows, but really do appreciate what y'all do and the difference you're making in our community, couldn't do it without you. 841 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,720 So thank y'all very much and whatever you have to add. 842 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,460 Okay, all right. Well, if you want to adjourn. 843 01:02:45,460 --> 01:03:03,420 Uh, this will return, didn't I, as the, uh, joint meeting 107, okay? And then likewise, that concludes the city council meeting at 107 where we can meet at two o'clock at city hall chambers. All right. Thank you.