1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,760 Okay, good morning everybody and 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,919 welcome. Uh those of you that are here 3 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:05,759 in person and those online, it's great 4 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,000 to be with you today. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,679 Uh 6 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:11,759 I will go ahead and call this meeting to 7 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:14,880 order and declare that we have a quorum. 8 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,199 Uh we normally do uh introductions. I 9 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:18,800 think we will try to do those again, but 10 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,960 we'll try to do them quick. And I 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,720 apologize to the folks online. I've 12 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,720 never figured out how to do that very 13 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,560 effectively. But maybe we can start with 14 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,880 the uh council members and liaison that 15 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,960 are se seated at the front. So Darren, 16 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,800 maybe we could start with you just 17 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,239 introduce yourself. And that's again 18 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:35,840 folks, this is just so that you know who 19 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,600 all the players are. If if you've been 20 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,520 meaning to talk to somebody that has a p 21 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,600 a particular affiliation, this gives you 22 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,120 the ability to know who those people 23 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,160 are. 24 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,399 >> So Darren Hess represent public water 25 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:49,039 suppliers. 26 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:50,879 >> Good morning. Jessica Wade uh 27 00:00:50,879 --> 00:00:54,000 representing Bureau of Land Management. 28 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,600 Elizabeth Kitchens representing 29 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,199 conservation. 30 00:00:57,199 --> 00:00:57,520 Uh 31 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,320 >> Tyler Smith on the military leaison with 32 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,680 the Department of Veterans and Military 33 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Affairs. 34 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,760 >> John Croft, Davis County Commission. 35 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,600 >> Angela Gong, forestry, Fire and State 36 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,479 Lands. 37 00:01:10,479 --> 00:01:13,840 >> Tim Hawks representing aquaculture. 38 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,400 >> Brad Perry, uh representing Northwestern 39 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,840 Bam Shy Nation. 40 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,119 >> Layen Meyers, sewer people. 41 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:22,560 Tom Ward. 42 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,920 >> Tom Ward representing m municipalities. 43 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,759 >> I'm I'm Jeff Richards. I represent the 44 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:30,960 migratory bird production areas. 45 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:32,479 >> Heidi Hovind, director of Gilmore 46 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:35,680 Sanctuary and vice chair and liaison of 47 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,479 the Jordan River Wershed Council. 48 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:40,960 >> Trevor Nelson, liaison member from the 49 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,040 Bear River Wershed. 50 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:48,149 >> Joe Hav mineral extraction. 51 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,320 Uh, Emma Whitaker, Forestry, Fire and 52 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,280 State Lands. 53 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,240 >> Vindus, Friends of Great Salt Lake. 54 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Representative Joel Kofford, House 55 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:03,200 District 10. 56 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Hannah Fes, Deputy Commissioner, Great 57 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Salt Lake. 58 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,750 >> Jeff Denlaker, Jacobs Engineering. 59 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:18,070 » Maria Monur, Northwestern Shosonyi. 60 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,400 Um, Andrea Nelson with Congressman 61 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,680 Burgess Owens. 62 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,239 >> Amy Wixs with Utah Rivers Council and 63 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:30,949 the Great Salt Lake water keeper. 64 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:34,959 » Eric McCully, wershed scientist. 65 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:36,319 >> Marissa Weinberg, Great Salt Lake 66 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:38,400 Sentinel Landscape. 67 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,200 >> Laura Vernon, water resources. 68 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,959 >> R. Jeffrey Hicks, Utah Airboat 69 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:44,800 Association. 70 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,400 >> Bronte D. Roshi, Great Salt Lake 71 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,110 Watershed Enhancement Trust. 72 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,120 » Dana Baxley, the Nature Conservancy. 73 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,280 >> Nathan Dows, Cash Water District, 74 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,360 >> Georgie Corkery, Great Silic Institute 75 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,720 and Ottabon, 76 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,319 >> Ben Styman, Forestry, Fire and State 77 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:05,599 Lands. 78 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:07,519 >> We got Jen and Paul in the back. And we 79 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:10,640 missed a section right here. Right. 80 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:14,480 Uh, Bryce Pulver, SWCA Consultants. 81 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,920 >> Joel Williams, Division of Water 82 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,319 Resources. 83 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:23,110 >> Jan Striple, League of Women Voters. 84 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,560 » Steph McInness, Division of Water 85 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Resources. 86 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,360 >> Okay, I think that's got it. Uh, we 87 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,200 won't try to do the online folks, but 88 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,239 acknowledge we've got a at least 25 as I 89 00:03:34,239 --> 00:03:36,799 can see it folks online. We appreciate 90 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:38,959 you being with us. Uh, want to express 91 00:03:38,959 --> 00:03:41,440 my appreciation to Angela who always 92 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,799 does such a great job putting together 93 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:44,720 agendas and hurting cats. There are a 94 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,280 lot of cats to be hurted. Jen and Paul 95 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,599 in the back. Um, and folks in Salt Lake 96 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:51,519 for helping with the AV to make this 97 00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:52,879 whole thing work. I did want to 98 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:54,959 acknowledge and I don't know if she's on 99 00:03:54,959 --> 00:03:57,840 the line, uh, Katherine Caner. Uh, 100 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,519 Katherine is, uh, nomally will be 101 00:04:01,519 --> 00:04:03,920 representing Salt Lake County on the 102 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,400 council. Um, but she's got to go through 103 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,200 the uh advice and consent through the 104 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,720 Senate. So, appointment by the governor 105 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,000 and then advice and sent through the 106 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Senate. So, it'll be a little bit 107 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,400 process, but I think Katherine will be 108 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,320 joining us as a council member here in 109 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,840 the next few months. So, welcome to her. 110 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:21,440 All right. So, uh, you all received a 111 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,960 copy of the agenda and we need to 112 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,479 approve that agenda. I am going to make 113 00:04:24,479 --> 00:04:26,560 one um proposed change. I've got to 114 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,919 leave a little bit early and I want to 115 00:04:27,919 --> 00:04:31,280 talk about the um the proposed project 116 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:34,240 funding before I go. And so, um, I 117 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,639 propose that we move the update on the 118 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:38,160 state water plan. So, Stephanie 119 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,400 McGuinness's presentation to after the 120 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,919 overview of fiscal year 26, uh, 121 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:46,240 projects. So, I'm going to make that 122 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,199 suggestion that we change uh the modify 123 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:51,440 the amendment. And when when I leave, 124 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,440 Leland has graciously volunteered to 125 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,919 take over the gavvel. So, thanks for 126 00:04:55,919 --> 00:04:58,560 that, Leland. Volunteer volunttold, one 127 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 of those things, right? Thanks, Leland. 128 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,600 So, can we get a a motion to approve the 129 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,520 agenda with that uh adjustment? 130 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,560 >> Modified agenda. 131 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,840 >> Okay, we have a motion from Leland. Get 132 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:10,479 a second. 133 00:05:10,479 --> 00:05:12,880 >> Second. 134 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Commissioner, thank you. Uh all in 135 00:05:14,479 --> 00:05:16,479 favor, please say I. 136 00:05:16,479 --> 00:05:19,440 >> I. Any opposed? I'll rule that motion 137 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,320 carries unanimously. And we are uh our 138 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,759 agenda is approved. Also, we have 139 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,000 minutes stated January 12th. Uh you 140 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,280 should have received a copy of that. I 141 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:31,120 haven't seen any suggested changes or um 142 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,440 to the to those minutes those well 143 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,440 they're really minute uh meeting notes. 144 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Can I get a motion to approve the 145 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,600 meeting notes? 146 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Jeff. Thank you. Can I second? 147 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,600 >> Second. 148 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,440 >> Leland second. All in favor please say 149 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,320 I. 150 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,199 >> I. Any opposed? I will that motion 151 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:50,320 carries unanimously. Okay. So it's uh 152 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,639 been momentous time for Great Salt Lake. 153 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:55,039 In the past week, we have not we h had 154 00:05:55,039 --> 00:06:00,080 not one but two presidential tweets on 155 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Great Salt Lake. 156 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,319 So, 157 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:05,919 the second one went out just yesterday. 158 00:06:05,919 --> 00:06:07,840 If you haven't seen it, managed to 159 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:10,160 offend Canada, call a bunch of states to 160 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,759 get together, but call out Great Salt 161 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:14,479 Lake again. So, um appreciative for that 162 00:06:14,479 --> 00:06:17,039 attention uh to this critical issue. 163 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:18,319 We're going to start out with an update 164 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:20,000 from Hannah uh Freeze from the 165 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,800 commissioner's office. 166 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,240 We'll turn it over to Hannah. Thanks 167 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,510 Hannah for being here. 168 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,280 » Thank you. Is this good? You hear me? Um 169 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:34,479 I don't have any slides to share with 170 00:06:34,479 --> 00:06:36,400 you today. I'm just going to talk um for 171 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,400 a minute, but I appreciate that um tea 172 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,560 up Tim about some of the things that I 173 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,880 would like to highlight. Um as you know, 174 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,639 we have Representative Kofford here, so 175 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:45,520 I'm not going to touch on the 176 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,800 legislation. I'm going to leave that to 177 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,960 her. Um, but we had a great year in 178 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960 terms of le legislation for the lake and 179 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,639 some new and exciting things happening 180 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:54,960 that I think will make um, leasing an 181 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,880 easier and better process uh, to be able 182 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,479 to get water to the lake, which is 183 00:06:58,479 --> 00:07:00,560 obviously one of our biggest goals. Um, 184 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,919 so we'll look forward to hearing from 185 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:04,960 Representative Kofford there. Um, so I 186 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,319 would just like to highlight for a 187 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:09,599 minute um what Tim Hawk mentioned about 188 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:11,360 uh the federal interest that has been 189 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,039 swirling around Great Salt Lake over the 190 00:07:13,039 --> 00:07:15,919 past couple of weeks. Um and our efforts 191 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:18,000 and our um collaboration with our 192 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,160 federal partners to make the lake great 193 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,759 again. Um so we did uh Governor Cox had 194 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:25,680 a good conversation with President 195 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,759 Trump. Um, and as part of that, I know 196 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:29,360 there's been a lot of rumors swirling 197 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,120 around about that conversation, but it 198 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,680 is true that the state of Utah, um, 199 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,120 through the commissioner's office and 200 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,120 the DNR did request $1 billion, um, from 201 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,520 in federal funding. So, I wanted to take 202 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,360 a second and just highlight we don't 203 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,120 have that broken out into specific 204 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,800 dollar amounts of what's going to go 205 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,400 where, but just highlight some of the 206 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,039 projects and some of the opportunities 207 00:07:51,039 --> 00:07:52,560 um that are available that we would like 208 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,639 to use those dollars if that comes to 209 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,919 fruition uh for the state. Um so, one of 210 00:07:57,919 --> 00:07:59,919 the areas that we would like to focus on 211 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:03,360 is um agricultural water leasing. That's 212 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,879 been a topic. So, we would like to focus 213 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:07,759 some dollars there. um ecosystem and 214 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:10,000 habitat restoration and that focus would 215 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,919 be specifically on the removal of um 216 00:08:11,919 --> 00:08:14,560 non-native invasive species. So think 217 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,400 all of the fragmitees work that forestry 218 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,919 fire and state lands and wildlife has 219 00:08:17,919 --> 00:08:20,080 been doing um if we can get some more 220 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,919 dollars to continue those efforts. It's 221 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:23,599 just such a massive need here on the 222 00:08:23,599 --> 00:08:26,560 lake as you all know. Um there is a line 223 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,879 item in there or a a nod towards 224 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:31,280 municipal water conservation. Um so 225 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,640 continuing those efforts with our 226 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,120 municipal partners um on our homeowners 227 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,440 turf removal and leasing opportunities 228 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,839 um from municipal partners as well. Um 229 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:41,760 you also probably heard in the news that 230 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,680 on the last day of the session um there 231 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:45,760 was some legislation about the settling 232 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,800 of the Bare River migratory bird refuge 233 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,920 that has literally been 100 plus years 234 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,399 in the making. uh the original lawsuit 235 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,880 was filed in the 1920s. 236 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,040 And so um part of those dollars would be 237 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,120 earmarked to finish out that settlement. 238 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,880 Basically what that is just in a 239 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 nutshell is there's about 22,000 acres 240 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,360 that the Bear River Migratory Bird 241 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Refuge already operates um as um federal 242 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,480 lands that are actually state sovereign 243 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,240 lands. And so we're looking at just 244 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,600 making that switch so the federal 245 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,279 government takes ownership and will 246 00:09:19,279 --> 00:09:21,519 purchase those lands from the state. Uh 247 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:24,000 so that's in the works. Um another line 248 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,720 item in the request um was to look at 249 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,800 engineered options for the lake. Um and 250 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,560 think if you heard in the strike team 251 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,519 report um the information that we got 252 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:35,839 from Utah State about water availability 253 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:38,080 particularly in the Newf Finland basin. 254 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,600 So if we can look at that with some of 255 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,279 those federal dollars and what the 256 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:42,880 possibility is to get some of that Newf 257 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Finland basin water flowing back into 258 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,560 the Great Salt Lake and what that 259 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,720 engineering would look like. Um and then 260 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,440 the last line item in that um federal 261 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,279 request was for habitat management 262 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:55,760 specifically to protect migratory birds 263 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,480 and potentially endangered species. Um 264 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,800 and so just wanted you uh to hear it 265 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,880 from us that there are no surprises in the funding that we requested and in 266 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,320 that request that was made to our 267 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,320 federal partners. Uh we definitely don't 268 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,760 want to put the cart before the horse. 269 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,440 We're not counting on this money. It's 270 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,079 not guaranteed. Um but we did make that 271 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:15,920 request to our federal partners and are 272 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,920 looking forward to the opportunity. um 273 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,480 to keep working with them. Can I answer 274 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,480 any questions on that? 275 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,800 >> So, questions from leaison and council 276 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,200 members. Brad, 277 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,800 >> thanks Hannah. Yeah, hopefully that 278 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,959 moves in the right direction. Uh with, 279 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:32,480 you know, with the Bear River being in 280 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,000 the three states, the tri, you know, 281 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,640 these tri-state areas, a lot of, like 282 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,000 you said, a lot of that's federal. Do 283 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,120 you envision that the Bureau of 284 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,519 Reclamation may be a large partner in 285 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:43,839 stepping up and handling that? Because 286 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:45,680 there's going to be certain things that 287 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:49,680 Wyoming wants that we don't need or 288 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,360 want, but they're going to want to be a 289 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,640 piece of the pie because of the Do you 290 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,600 see any sort of that federal nexus or or 291 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,200 you all are just requesting the federal 292 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,959 dollars come straight to the state and 293 00:11:00,959 --> 00:11:02,240 you disperse them? 294 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,320 >> That's a great question. Thank you. Um I 295 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,600 think that there will be a federal 296 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,240 nexus. I think um we're anticipating it 297 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,920 would play out similar to the $50 298 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,839 million that we were awarded that came 299 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:14,000 through the Bureau of Reclamation. Um I 300 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,839 don't know for sure, but that might also 301 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:18,160 look like US Fish and Wildlife Bureau of 302 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Reclamation and some of those other 303 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,440 federal partners that we would work with 304 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,240 as well. 305 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,440 >> Thank you. 306 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,959 >> Uh any other questions from council 307 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:27,839 members or liaison? 308 00:11:27,839 --> 00:11:29,920 Uh any burning question from the 309 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,560 audience? 310 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:34,560 Okay, seeing none. Thank you Hannah. 311 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:36,320 Great update. exciting stuff. So, I 312 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,440 really appreciate you being here. 313 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,240 >> Appreciate it. 314 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,320 >> So, the next um item on our agenda is a 315 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,040 legislative update. Uh advocating for 316 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,120 Great Salt Lake in the in the 317 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,279 legislature is very much a coalition of 318 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:49,440 the willing, a labor of love. Um I did 319 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,959 it when I was there. Representative 320 00:11:50,959 --> 00:11:52,800 Ferry did it and then uh Representative 321 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,800 Snider's had that laboring war for some 322 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,959 time. And then uh this year really 323 00:11:56,959 --> 00:11:59,600 carrying a lot of the heavy lifting is 324 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,360 Representative Jill Kofford who's with 325 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,680 us and she's terrific and a true 326 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:06,959 believer in the lake and has worked very hard um to try to get some 327 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:08,480 legislation through and she's joined us 328 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,160 here. We appreciate you being here Jill 329 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,760 and we'll turn the time over to you. You 330 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,480 can follow Hannah up there maybe and um 331 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,320 we'd welcome just kind of an update what 332 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,800 the what the session was like for Great 333 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,639 Salt Lake. 334 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:23,680 >> Thank you Tim. Um, thank you for letting 335 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:25,200 me be here and taking a few minutes. I 336 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,639 appreciate it. Um, really the focus this 337 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:31,200 year for the lake was how can we deliver 338 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,360 water to the lake? How can we remove 339 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,880 some of those barriers and actually 340 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,600 deliver water? And also I wanted it to 341 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,360 be a really positive session for the 342 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,519 lake rather than it's been a little 343 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:44,560 tricky, right, and a little hostile. And 344 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:46,800 I my whole goal was to bring people 345 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,880 together and hopefully show that we can 346 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,519 all move in the same direction and that 347 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:53,279 look, we all want the same thing. We 348 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:54,880 want to save this incredible body of 349 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,560 water and how do we how do we create and 350 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,399 maybe mend some bridges and make sure 351 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:01,760 that we're all growing in the same 352 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,680 direction. So my focus really came down 353 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:05,760 to well three house bills that had to 354 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,279 deal with water. Um the two specific to 355 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:12,000 the lake were House Bill 348 which is 356 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,079 was dedicated water amendments. And in 357 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:15,920 working with Teresa the state water 358 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,000 engineer, what we found is that the 359 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,800 processes was really cumbersome um in 360 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,120 getting change applications and in 361 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,120 freeing up the process to actually move 362 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,560 water to the lake. It was just taking 363 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:29,120 too long. So working very closely with 364 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,839 Teresa, we came up with a with a new 365 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:33,920 application process called dedicated 366 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,880 water. Um, it bumps the applications to 367 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,880 the top of the line, makes them a 368 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:44,800 priority, it protects the underlying water, right, and it just 369 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,360 streamlines and speeds up the process to 370 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,839 evaluate those applications. Teresa's 371 00:13:49,839 --> 00:13:52,560 office is looking at about 16,000 372 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,040 applications a year. So you can imagine 373 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,800 that if you're number 12,342 374 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,199 just to pick a random number and you're 375 00:14:01,199 --> 00:14:02,480 buried somewhere in the bottom of the 376 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,000 pile and you're trying to dedicate water 377 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,040 to the lake that you're going to get 378 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,959 lost in the shuffle. But if you can if 379 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:10,160 you have a prioritized application that 380 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,519 bumps you up to the front of the line, 381 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:13,760 then that can help speed up that process 382 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,199 and deliver the water to the lake. Um it 383 00:14:17,199 --> 00:14:19,600 was it was a policy that we worked 384 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,279 really hard on and I think that we got 385 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:25,120 it right. Um, so it allows for 386 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,199 temporary, it's temporary, it can be 387 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:29,519 time fixed, it can be different seasons, 388 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:32,000 but it allows for a lot more flexibility 389 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 in that application process. The second 390 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,880 bill was the leasing bill. And 391 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,120 initially, we started out just focused 392 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,639 on Great Salt Lake and the Great Salt 393 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:45,920 Lake Basin, but what we found is that would just muddy the waters a 394 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,920 little bit in other basins. And so we 395 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,480 wanted to create a statewide application 396 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,480 process or a statewide leasing program. 397 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Sorry, not application process, a 398 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,079 statewide program that could be applied 399 00:14:56,079 --> 00:14:58,079 to the Colorado River Basin as well as 400 00:14:58,079 --> 00:15:01,279 the Great Salt Lake Basin and also stand 401 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:04,639 up a pilot program for leasing. So it's 402 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:06,720 temporary, it's voluntary, it's market 403 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,680 driven. It will be managed and run by 404 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,920 the commissioner's office. Um it will 405 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,839 create a new board that will evaluate 406 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:16,320 those those leases 407 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,959 um in an effort to kind of partner with 408 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:20,959 agg and to make sure that they can look 409 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:23,600 at their water maybe differently as a 410 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,360 commodity that they put into a crop 411 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,079 rotation. That was that was the the aim 412 00:15:28,079 --> 00:15:31,040 and the goal of 410. Um it's a two out 413 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 of fiveear leasing pro um program so 414 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,560 that we're not taking all the water out 415 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,279 of a but that we're allowing farmers to 416 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:41,360 look at it a little bit differently and 417 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,120 they can they can evaluate what the what 418 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,680 the season looks like upfront and make a 419 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,519 decision really quickly whether or not 420 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:51,199 they want to lease or if it looks like 421 00:15:51,199 --> 00:15:54,079 they want to grow and it's really left 422 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:56,399 to the to our to our partners in a to 423 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:58,560 determine what that looks like for them. 424 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,040 Um, we've had some leasing opportunities 425 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,639 before and the take the uptake just 426 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:04,560 hasn't been there. So, working really 427 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,800 closely with Hannah and with our a 428 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,639 partners, they were at the table from 429 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:10,880 the very beginning to to craft a program 430 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,079 that works for them and also helps to 431 00:16:14,079 --> 00:16:15,519 kind of remove those barriers and get 432 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:18,000 some water to the lake. The the third 433 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 bill that I sponsored was a data center 434 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,240 um 435 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,040 just a transparency and reporting. We we 436 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,680 want data centers in Utah. We need data 437 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,199 centers in Utah. I think that we're in 438 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:32,639 an arms race for AI really as a country. 439 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,680 So, it's an industry that has largely 440 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,519 pivoted away from being very water 441 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:39,600 intensive, but we just don't know how 442 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,079 much water they're using. And so, for 443 00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:43,839 me, this was an effort for them to be 444 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:45,440 able to tell their story to show how 445 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,959 they're good partners and good stewards 446 00:16:46,959 --> 00:16:49,199 of our water and to ensure that that's 447 00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:51,199 happening. So, it requires some 448 00:16:51,199 --> 00:16:54,000 pre-construction communication and 449 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,160 reporting to the state water engineer 450 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,320 and then it requires ongoing annual 451 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,959 reporting. Um, and it's for new data 452 00:17:00,959 --> 00:17:02,639 centers coming into the state. I will 453 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:04,799 say that was not where I wanted the bill 454 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:06,079 to land, but that's where it needed to 455 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:07,520 land so that we could get it across the 456 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,039 finish line. So, it's anybody 457 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:10,959 operational in the state from July 1st 458 00:17:10,959 --> 00:17:15,600 of this year and forward. And we'll monitor that and see if it's 459 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,959 getting us the kind of information that 460 00:17:16,959 --> 00:17:18,559 we need. But in my opinion, we just need 461 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:22,319 more data, more information. Um, on the 462 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:24,079 last night of the session, there was 463 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:27,199 another bill that was um it was House 464 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:29,440 Bill 349, I believe it was Dave 465 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,120 Shallenburgger's bill. He had worked 466 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:33,760 really closely with um Teresa as well on 467 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,799 that to have our municipalities 468 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:39,919 plan get a 40-year plan for their water 469 00:17:39,919 --> 00:17:44,000 in place. it it was for those of you 470 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,200 that have been in the legislative 471 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,559 session, you know how crazy it gets 472 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:48,880 towards the end and things can get 473 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,280 stalled. So that bill ended up being 474 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,280 swept into a land use bill that I was 475 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,720 running so that we could get it over the 476 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,120 finish line and it passed. So I'm I'm really looking forward to that. It 477 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:01,760 was a big priority for Teresa and at 478 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,679 this point anything Teresa asks for I'm 479 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:05,280 willing to try to bend over backwards to 480 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,039 make sure she gets. She's a remarkable 481 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:10,080 person and a great partner. Um, I can't 482 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,000 remember. Let's see. Ray Ward had a 483 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,559 bill. Tim, do you remember the number? 484 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:16,080 Um, it was about 485 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,760 >> two 247 I think 486 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,120 >> 247 maybe about royalties um from the 487 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,679 brine shrimp. It that was going into the 488 00:18:23,679 --> 00:18:26,160 endangered species fund. Now that will 489 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,000 go into the Great Salt Lake Fund to help 490 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,799 with um all the work we're doing there. 491 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:32,640 Um and I should mention that the the 492 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,320 leasing program and the Great Salt Lake 493 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,960 Preservation Fund that we created, we 494 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,840 can take private dollars. So, so that 495 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,520 fund I think is really unique. It's an 496 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,160 ongoing fund that um gives us an 497 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,400 opportunity to work with some of our our 498 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,720 private partners who want to help get 499 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,640 water to the lake. There's a vehicle now 500 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,799 for that to happen. So, happy to answer 501 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:54,880 any questions. 502 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,720 >> Thanks, Representative here. Um 503 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,720 questions from we'll start with 504 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,960 committee members or liaison. Any 505 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,760 questions for good representative? Great 506 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,840 body of work um in this session. 507 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Definitely progress. Yeah. 508 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,039 Go ahead. 509 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:13,919 >> Hi, Representative. Um Brad Perry from 510 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:16,559 the Northwestern Man of Shosonyi. A lot 511 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:18,720 of really good things set in there. Um 512 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,120 and you talk about data and how much 513 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,120 you're going to get to the Great Salt 514 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,640 Lake and some of the funding that you're 515 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,720 looking at or some of the programs you 516 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,120 want to implement from some of this 517 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:31,120 legislation. Are you going to require 518 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:33,200 monitoring of the water like water 519 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,480 meters, water monitoring to ensure 520 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,799 you're the lake is getting what it's 521 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:40,240 getting? 522 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,160 >> You mean like in terms of the dedicated 523 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,679 water and the water leasing program 524 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:44,400 itself? 525 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,880 >> Yes. 526 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,960 >> There there. Thank you for that 527 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,440 question. There and that's that's been 528 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,679 part of the challenge, right? Is is to 529 00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:54,160 make sure that the water is actually 530 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,360 flowing where it's supposed to be 531 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,440 flowing. And Teresa has the ability to 532 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,400 monitor that with a state water engineer 533 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,200 and and and has been given that 534 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,280 authority in rule making to make sure 535 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,679 that whatever has been dedicated is 536 00:20:07,679 --> 00:20:09,520 actually flowing to the lake that it's 537 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,760 not being diverted downstream. 538 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,520 >> Yeah. No. Yeah. And I totally 539 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,000 understand. is um you know just coming 540 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,160 from a reclamation background it's it's 541 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,840 real easy to steal water if it ain't in 542 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,240 a pipe or you know or if it's not 543 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,039 metered you know and so I would just 544 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,440 highly encourage that uh just as an 545 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,880 example up on our site of 500 acres and 546 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,120 so many CFS we've purchased Atlas which 547 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,240 is what the USGS uses to monitor and we 548 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,679 have seven monitoring stations and or we can have up to 25 so anyone in 549 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:45,919 northern Utah along the river like West 550 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:47,840 Cash we're a part of. We want to 551 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,799 encourage to let us set up these data 552 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:52,720 centers so we can have real time and 553 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,120 send it to like you were saying yourself 554 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:58,159 and Teresa and everybody because you 555 00:20:58,159 --> 00:20:59,840 know we're working really hard to make 556 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,799 sure we have so much and we're so so far 557 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:05,440 up north you know you know it's it's 558 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,760 going to be a challenge as that water 559 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,120 meanders its way down. 560 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,600 >> Right. Do you know it's I spent a little 561 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,360 bit of time with Teresa looking at the because I have a lot of questions 562 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:17,280 and I'm new to the space trying to learn 563 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,200 as much as I can um and asking those 564 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,520 questions. Where are the gaps? What data 565 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,200 do we have? What information don't we 566 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,520 have? Where are the gaps? Who who do we 567 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520 need to be metering or all of those 568 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,840 kinds of things. It's really fascinating 569 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,600 when you get on the on the seed 570 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,880 engineers water like on her site online 571 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,760 and look at how granular she can get 572 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,840 with the with the measurements and the 573 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,960 water and the flow. It's we have really 574 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,280 good information right now and that's 575 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,760 really down to the work and the the 576 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,120 groundwork that's already been laid. 577 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,559 There may there may be a few places 578 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:55,840 where we can tweak that, but that is 579 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159 really Teresa's mission and aim is to 580 00:21:58,159 --> 00:21:59,520 measure that and to know where the water 581 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,400 is flowing. And it's it's incredible 582 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,679 when just how granular we can get on on 583 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:07,600 instream flows and and everything and 584 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,400 where it's flowing. 585 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,480 >> You guys use apples as well. 586 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,720 >> Yeah, I I don't know what the system is. 587 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,120 I just know on the website and and it's public facing. Anyone could go in 588 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,120 and look at that, but it the the data is 589 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,400 there and it's really good. Yeah, we 590 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,840 just all have to start sharing it with 591 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,919 each other. We all have to start a 592 00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:25,679 repository to make sure 593 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:26,080 >> Yeah, 594 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,919 >> it gets in there. That's what this group 595 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:28,880 should be responsible 596 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,039 >> and and meters like secondary meters, 597 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:32,799 all of that. I mean, in terms of 598 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:34,640 residential and municipal water, we're 599 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,320 working towards that, too. 600 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,640 >> They say if you can't measure it, you 601 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,080 can't manage it, right? But I know 602 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,159 that's a work in progress. I I think in 603 00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:45,120 terms of these instream flow or leasing 604 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,039 type things for the lake, I think the 605 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:48,799 state engineers office has always 606 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:50,880 required metering as some portion of 607 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,400 that. So that's usually part of the cost 608 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,159 of doing that implementation. I think we 609 00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:55,520 got Leland and we got somebody else. 610 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,919 Leland, why don't you go ahead? 611 00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:01,600 >> Uh yes. Um so 612 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,039 we appreciate what the legislaturator's 613 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,919 done in pushing secondary metering. I 614 00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:07,840 think that's really important. We've 615 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,720 done a number of studies that uh 616 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,919 indicate the significant amount of 617 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:16,080 conservation that's going to be needed 618 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,480 in order for population growth to live 619 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,120 within the existing water supplies 620 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,880 rather than to try and look at having to 621 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,960 develop new water supplies so that 622 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,440 anything can go to the lake that's 623 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,840 getting there now as well as 624 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,760 conservation adding to the lake 625 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,200 particularly out of the agricultural 626 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,880 area. Um I know that in the past uh 627 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,960 there have been several bills trying to 628 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,799 push conservation. We we are we we did a 629 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:45,919 uh toolbox for municipalities 630 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:49,120 to try and encourage them to to look at 631 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,320 significant uh efforts on conservation 632 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,880 at the municipal level. at the homeowner 633 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,480 level, we don't have a great degree of 634 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,360 reception on those toolbox uh getting 635 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,520 people to look at it very well. The 636 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,440 >> coalition of the reluctant, I think, is 637 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,320 probably the way to put it. 638 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 >> Is there and and and and it it appears 639 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,120 that I know that at the legislative 640 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,400 level, I'm getting to the question here 641 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:12,960 soon. 642 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,640 >> Yeah. at the at the legislative level. I 643 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,159 know that there's been several bills ran 644 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:18,880 by Representative Owens talking about 645 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000 some degree of of of I hate to use the 646 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,640 term mandated, but encouraged strongly 647 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,880 encouraged conservation. Do you think 648 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,960 that's ever going to get legs enough to 649 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,760 go anywhere? Because we we probably 650 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,600 really need that. 651 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,320 >> Yeah. Um, 652 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,440 I will say that the I I was just looking 653 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,360 at some of the bills that Representative 654 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,760 Owens ran that that failed again this 655 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,720 year. And I think the challenge is that 656 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760 many people in both bodies 657 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,960 are reluctant to mandate 658 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,840 so heavily on personal property rights. 659 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,200 And that's the challenge that we're 660 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,240 facing. And I would love to see that 661 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720 just happen naturally and voluntarily 662 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,240 because we live in the second driest 663 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,080 state in the nation. It makes sense that 664 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,440 we're looking for new ways to conserve. 665 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,840 So Stephanie Pitcher ran a bill and 666 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840 asked me if I would be her co-sponsor, 667 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,559 her fuller sponsor on it. And it was ma 668 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:20,159 is mandating new state facilities. So, 669 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:23,760 not just just new buildings to be 75% 670 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,919 water efficient and to look at different 671 00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:29,120 turf. And that to me was an easy yes 672 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,520 because if we can't mandate ourselves as 673 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,159 a state, how do we expect like if we 674 00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:35,840 can't step up and set the example, how 675 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,400 do we expect the rest of the state to 676 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,279 want to voluntarily step in? So, to me, 677 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,840 that was an easy lift to say yes, we're 678 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,120 going to mandate that on the state 679 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,440 level. It was fascinating to me to 680 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,039 listen to the push back that I got from 681 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,799 some of my colleagues um and and some of 682 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:54,559 the ribbing that I got that I took for 683 00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,880 that because people were saying, "Well, 684 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,320 can't they already do this?" Well, yes, 685 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,960 they can. But is it happening? I don't 686 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,799 know. I can't tell you. But if I mandate 687 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,720 it, I know that it's happening. And 688 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,720 again, it comes back to me as a state 689 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,200 legislator saying in our facilities that 690 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,120 I control, I'm going to mandate this 691 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,200 because we're going to set the example. 692 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,559 So, I would I would love to see that. I know that we probably need to get to 693 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,400 that, but I would love to see it become 694 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,320 a voluntary thing where people just say, 695 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,159 "We live in a desert and we're going to 696 00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:26,320 be we're going to be water-wise. We're 697 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,080 going to be smart. We're going to save 698 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,760 outside." And if every person along the 699 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,440 Wasatch Front could conserve, to your 700 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,840 point, 30%, how much more water would we 701 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,679 get to that body of of water? A lot. So, I'm trying to win over hearts and 702 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:41,200 minds to get people to do that 703 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520 voluntarily. I don't know that you'll 704 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,600 see the legislature mandate that, but I think you'll see people 705 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,000 continually asking us to mandate it. So, 706 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240 it's probably not the right answer, but 707 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,360 it we're working on it. And and to me, 708 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,279 we'll be more successful if we can win 709 00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:58,960 the hearts and minds of the people to 710 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,159 say this lake matters. We care about it, 711 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:04,880 and I can do something. And what I can 712 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,200 do is pull out some turf or plant 713 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840 different turf and stop watering so 714 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,120 much. So, 715 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,000 >> I appreciate that. It would be nice for 716 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,960 the municipalities to be willing to 717 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,559 allow that to happen all the time, too, 718 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:21,520 though. 719 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,679 >> And that's part of the problem is agree. 720 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:25,760 The municipalities, I mean, I live in 721 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,360 Salt Lake City, 722 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,080 >> and my neighbor across the street had a 723 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,159 narrow park strip, took out all the 724 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:34,559 grass. Salt Lake City came back in and 725 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,799 she put cement in part of it. Salt Lake 726 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:38,159 City came back in and said, "Take out 727 00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:40,000 the cement." 728 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,279 And and that's the wrong direction 729 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:45,200 when conservation somebody's willing to 730 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,200 do it and then they're been told not to 731 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,679 do it. 732 00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:48,799 >> Yeah, I agree. 733 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,200 >> And so I know that for for some of the 734 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,640 homeowner associations, there's been 735 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840 laws passed to try and allow people to 736 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,320 be conser conservation-minded. I think 737 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,039 we just need more encouragement. 738 00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:02,000 >> That's an editorial. 739 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,039 >> Thanks. No, thanks Leland. Um 740 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:06,159 representative, do you have time for two 741 00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:06,880 more questions? 742 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,559 >> Absolutely. Okay, let's go Commissioner 743 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:09,919 Coft and then we got Warren Peterson 744 00:28:09,919 --> 00:28:10,320 online. 745 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,720 >> This is a this is a softball question. 746 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Well, it's not a question, it's a 747 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,640 comment and a thank you. So, these data 748 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,559 centers, especially the older ones, used 749 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,600 enormous amounts of water and thank you 750 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,440 for sponsoring that bill and at least 751 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,120 working towards making that more 752 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,039 transparent. And I know that there's 753 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,039 improvements being made with the data 754 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:32,159 centers. So, I think that that 755 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:34,559 transparency is going to help everybody, 756 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,640 >> including the data centers when they 757 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,159 know that, you know, they're under 758 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,080 public scrutiny on, you know, how much 759 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,919 water they're using. So, I think that 760 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:43,679 was a really good bill. I know that you 761 00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:45,760 had to make some compromises on it, but 762 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,840 even with those compromises, it was such 763 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,760 an improvement. Thank you for running 764 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,600 that. Thank you for doing that. I I 765 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,919 think that that'll have long reaching 766 00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:56,960 benefits throughout the uh well, with 767 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,320 the Great Salt Lake, but with other 768 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,799 issues as well. And being that we are 769 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:02,799 the second driest state in the country, 770 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:04,320 we should be aware of that. And so, 771 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,760 thank you for running that. I I know 772 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,720 that was 773 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,840 >> a hard lift and you brought it home. 774 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,559 Thank you. 775 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,520 >> Who knew that was going to be so hard? 776 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520 Yeah, that and it almost died the last 777 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,840 day of the session. So, um, one thing 778 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,399 just to note, right now we have two big 779 00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:21,840 data centers that are using a lot of 780 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,520 water in the state. It's Meta and the 781 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,880 NSA. Meta is retrofitting a lot of their 782 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,919 older um data centers to be more water 783 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:32,000 efficient. And then the water that 784 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,760 they're discharging, especially in Eagle 785 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,919 Mountain, they're using to water the 786 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:37,919 they're reusing the water to water some 787 00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:40,240 of their parks. So, they're not a 788 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,159 terrible partner and they're moving in 789 00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:43,600 the right direction and I appreciate 790 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360 that. And they actually came to me and 791 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,600 said this could be model policy. We like 792 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,480 the way this is going. So, they want I 793 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,240 think they want to be good partners. 794 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,600 Yeah. 795 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,360 >> Thank you. One more question. Warren 796 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Peterson online. 797 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,640 >> Yeah, thank you Tim. Uh I just wanted to 798 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,590 comment to to Jill that um 799 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,440 now the session's over. So you're back 800 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,960 to having your f your own first name 801 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,799 instead of rep. Is that is that fair? 802 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:14,880 But I I wanted to wanted to do a shout 803 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,360 out to her to to Representative Kford 804 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,200 because she didn't just go away and 805 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,360 write bills. She worked hour, not just 806 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,440 day by day, but hour by hour with water 807 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,080 users to try to get it right. It's an a 808 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080 great example of how water legislation 809 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,399 should be put together. And thank you, 810 00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:32,640 representative, for for the way for your 811 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,720 approach and for the work you've done. 812 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,159 So, I'm not even going to ask you a hard 813 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:37,600 question. Just wanted to do that shout 814 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,159 out to your example and your the 815 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:42,720 exemplary way you went 816 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120 toward putting these bills together. 817 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,000 >> Thank you, Warren. 818 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,679 That means a great 819 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,919 deal coming from you. I appreciate it. 820 00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:51,120 >> Well, thank you, Representative. We 821 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,720 appreciate you being here. Thank you for 822 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880 that process. Uh you're really really 823 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,720 great about um taking comment, working 824 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,120 through a good process. So much much 825 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,480 obliged. Thanks for all your great work 826 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,480 and hope you're getting some time off to 827 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,799 decompress just a teeny bit as you go 828 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,000 right into a new campaign. 829 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,919 >> Allegedly. Yeah. No, there's no no 830 00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:09,360 campaign. Yeah, there's a campaign. 831 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,679 Yeah, I'm running for the Senate, so and 832 00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:13,200 I'll just throw that out there. I don't 833 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,039 know. Anyway, here we go. 834 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:15,840 >> Thanks, Joe. 835 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,279 >> Thank you for all the work that you are 836 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:26,230 doing. Thank you. I appreciate it. 837 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,240 » Okay. Thank you very much. The next item 838 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,799 on our agenda is um again, we're going 839 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:32,000 to flip-flop a little. We're have 840 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,279 Stephanie talk about the state water 841 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:35,360 plan as the big substantive agenda item 842 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,440 that we have left, but I wanted to talk. 843 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240 We've had a steering committee. Now, as 844 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640 this group will recall, so the the Great 845 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,919 Salt Lake Advisory Council has the 846 00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:48,320 ability to to direct $125,000. 847 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,039 It comes out of the Brian Shrimp um uh 848 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,200 royalty and so it goes into Sovereign 849 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,679 Lands Management Account and then it's 850 00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:57,760 this group has the ability to direct uh 851 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,080 that funding. We've tried to make sure 852 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,519 because in the past sometimes we haven't 853 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,679 fully obligated it. we've had, you know, 854 00:32:03,679 --> 00:32:05,440 a study that just couldn't get done in 855 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360 time and so that money lapses 856 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,279 effectively. Uh, and so we've really 857 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:11,519 made an effort with the advisory council 858 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:14,480 to frontload these these this project 859 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,559 work upfront and make sure that we're 860 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,559 funding the right stuff and we're doing 861 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:21,519 it early um and so that we can maximize 862 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:23,600 the value of those dollars. So there's 863 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,760 been um a steering committee, a subset 864 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,279 of um the membership and liaison that's met to talk about projects. We've 865 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,159 allocated almost all of our funding. Uh 866 00:32:36,159 --> 00:32:38,240 and I'll ask Angela to correct me if I 867 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,000 miss any of this, but there's about 868 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,919 $30,000 left unallocated. And so the 869 00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:46,640 steering committee uh undertook to make 870 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200 recommendations about how to spend that 871 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,080 last $30,000. 872 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,039 And the recommendation um from that 873 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:57,440 committee uh is to spend it in the 874 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,159 following way. One is there is a a 875 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:03,039 groundwater study being done by Utah 876 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,960 State in conjunction with a couple of 877 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,399 project partners. Do you remember who 878 00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:09,200 else is on there, Angela? This is 879 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,919 studying groundwater uh recharge and all 880 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:13,679 these different things on the east side 881 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:19,279 of Great Salt Lake. Um so kind of in the interface there. Do you remember who 882 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:20,960 else is a project partner there? I'm 883 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,640 putting you on the spot. I think it 884 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,480 might be Yeah. 885 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,519 >> parters. 886 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:29,279 >> Yeah. Oh, anyway, it's uh it it's it's 887 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,320 not just USU. It's um I think there's 888 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,840 some federal partners in there as well, 889 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,120 but they're um they they're a little shy 890 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,880 on their money. And so the 891 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600 recommendation was to take $10,000 of 892 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,919 what's left and apply it to that study 893 00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:47,440 to help them uh wrap up that study. Um 894 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,240 the other recommendation was $3,000 895 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,000 to sponsor the issues forum 896 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000 take a bowin which friends of the great 897 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,960 salt lake organizes every other year uh 898 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,519 and and so a little sponsorship for that 899 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,760 important convening of stakeholders and 900 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,679 then with the amount that was left the 901 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:07,440 recommendation was to give the the 902 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,359 17,000 that was remaining to the great 903 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:11,440 Salt Lake Watershed Enhancement Trust to 904 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,919 do leasing but that's not the only you 905 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:15,760 know could go to this new fund it could 906 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,839 go somewhere else. But um the 907 00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:20,079 recommendation from the group was to go 908 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:21,679 to the Great Salt Lake Wershed 909 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,720 Enhancement Trust. So the question here 910 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,399 and this this will be a committee vote. 911 00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:28,240 We need the committee members to vote to 912 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,480 approve that and then that by statute 913 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,720 then that that triggers basically that 914 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:38,159 um that spend. Um but 915 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,599 that's the recommendation from the 916 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,760 working group. Any discussion to that or 917 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,839 questions about that from the members of 918 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:47,119 the committee or the liaison? 919 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:49,119 And did I miss anything, Angela, or mess 920 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,040 it up at all? 921 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,720 >> No, that's right. I'll I'll just show 922 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:55,359 the slide so that people can chew on 923 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,119 this. And it also shows the other 924 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:01,280 options that the steering committee um 925 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,240 chose not to recommend. 926 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,119 >> Can you see that? Okay. 927 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:08,000 >> Yeah. So, um this was kind of a refined 928 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160 list of a much broader list of potential 929 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,440 things. Of course, a lot of ways to 930 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,440 spend money out there. Um but one is 931 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,200 we've been commissioning these films to 932 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,880 tell stories about the Great Salt Lake. 933 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,240 And so one of the ideas was we could 934 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,400 just fund a few more of those stories. 935 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,560 Um that issues forum sponsorship that we 936 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,480 just described the groundwater study 937 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,960 that we just described. Um get donate to 938 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,560 the trust or donate to the commission's 939 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,280 office to to do uh you know leasing work 940 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,560 or habitat work. Um redo the web page or 941 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,880 come up with a dedicated page um for 942 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,599 Great Salt Lake Advisory Council. Um, 943 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:40,800 ultimately I think it was a little bit 944 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,280 of a choose your own adventure, pick 945 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,599 your menu. Um, and that's that was the 946 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,280 recommendation from the group. So any 947 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,960 questions about any of those or the 948 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,069 recommendations from the working group? 949 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:55,359 Leland, 950 00:35:55,359 --> 00:35:58,400 >> just understand that problems with 951 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,280 procurement at times create at this 952 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,800 point in time something we have to be 953 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,480 able to do quickly and that's part of 954 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,079 the dilemma 955 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:07,359 >> with some of the issues some of the 956 00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:08,480 stuff we've had before. 957 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,400 >> Yeah. In the past we've we've gotten the 958 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,560 project started late and we can't even 959 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,359 get through procurement issues to get 960 00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:17,200 the project awarded in time to spend the 961 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,920 money. So that was part of the concerns 962 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,400 on why those were picked because those 963 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,349 we don't have to worry about it as much. 964 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:28,960 » Thank you. 965 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560 >> Yes. Go ahead, please. 966 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040 >> Um, so I'm on the steering committee and 967 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,320 I just wanted to give a little bit of 968 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,599 background on the two that we did not 969 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,560 choose. It isn't that we we're not we 970 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,160 don't think they're important. There's a 971 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,520 current fund uh towards preparing uh 972 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,440 videos of success stories around the 973 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,119 lake. Um but we haven't seen the results 974 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:53,520 of that yet. So that's something that we 975 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,599 if we like what we get, we can uh 976 00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:58,480 perhaps fund some more next year. And 977 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,800 then that same thing goes for the 978 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,119 dedicated web page. Um we all realize 979 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:04,960 that's very very important, but in light 980 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,839 of procurement and um making sure that 981 00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:10,320 it's a really well done thing, we we 982 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,920 know it's important. And so this is 983 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,119 something that we'll be looking forward 984 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:16,000 to uh next year. 985 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,680 >> Okay. Thank you for that additional 986 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,480 context. Any other comments or questions 987 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,079 about the recommendations from the 988 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,200 steering committee? 989 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,200 >> If not, can I get a motion from a 990 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,920 council member to approve or modify? 991 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,480 Leland. Leland moves to approve. 992 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,040 >> Second. 993 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520 >> A second from commissioner. We have it. 994 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,800 >> Thanks. 995 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,920 >> Uh all in favor, please say I. Or raise 996 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,800 I. Any opposed? I'll rule that motion 997 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,599 carries unanimously. Thanks for your 998 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,280 time and discussion on that. Again, we 999 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,599 hope to continue the good work to make 1000 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:51,040 sure to help in a small way. We're not 1001 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,720 talking big funding here, right? But the 1002 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,079 over time, Great Salt Lake Advisory 1003 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,320 Council's done a lot of great work with 1004 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,480 fairly modest funding. So, proud of that 1005 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,240 work. Okay. So, uh, next is we are going 1006 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,359 to turn it over to for an update on the 1007 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:07,680 state water plan to Stephanie McGinness 1008 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,760 from water resources who's here with us. 1009 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,440 And Stephanie, welcome. Thanks for being 1010 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,680 here. And we'll turn the time over to 1011 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,440 you. You do have a presentation right. I 1012 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,829 think it's queued up. 1013 00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,760 » Yeah. Good morning. Thank you. Give me 1014 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:30,550 one moment and I'll get my slides up. 1015 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,040 As Stephanie's getting situated, I'm I 1016 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,560 forgot our official signin, so I'm 1017 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,640 passing around my notebook with all my 1018 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,079 stickers. So, if it takes you back to 1019 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,480 sixth grade environmental science club, 1020 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,240 that is the feeling I want you to have. 1021 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:51,430 So, that's the sign in for today. 1022 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,800 » Well, good morning. Thank you again for 1023 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,560 that introduction. My name is Steph 1024 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,400 McInness. I'm the state water plan 1025 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,760 manager with the Division of Water 1026 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000 Resources. And what I'd like to do with 1027 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,079 our time this morning is just give you 1028 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,880 uh a brief overview on the state water 1029 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,640 plan update that we're working on. 1030 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,560 So, I'd like to start out by just 1031 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,160 getting everyone on the same page of 1032 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,160 what the state water plan is meant to 1033 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,119 accomplish. Um I'm going to give you the the cliff notes here. The key 1034 00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:21,520 components are all lined out uh in code. 1035 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,760 So, if you'd like to dig in, uh there's 1036 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,520 the code. you can help yourself to a 1037 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,400 couple pages of reading. Uh but 1038 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,320 ultimately the state water plan, it's 1039 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,240 meant to serve as a framework to support 1040 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:35,040 informed decision making um by those 1041 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,560 that are shaping, managing, and 1042 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,440 depending upon Utah's water resources. 1043 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,440 The plan will identify current and 1044 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,160 future water resources. It will also 1045 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,960 recommend strategies um and actionable 1046 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,240 steps. And we're trying to do this at 1047 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,560 the individual, local, and state level. 1048 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,320 Um to address current challenges and 1049 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,160 also to prepare us for future 1050 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,680 uncertainties. 1051 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,160 Uh this this plan is is meant to be 1052 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000 informed by a wide range of 1053 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,079 stakeholders. And our team has really 1054 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,000 made a significant effort uh to get out 1055 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,960 there at the local level um to get um 1056 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,040 you know thoughts and priorities and 1057 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,079 concerns to help inform this plan um so 1058 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:13,440 that we can hopefully help decision 1059 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,280 makers identify priorities and 1060 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,800 challenges and plan more efficiently. 1061 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,880 uh sort of the the goals or the outcomes 1062 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,040 that are lined out in statute uh calls 1063 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960 for the plan to support our communities, 1064 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,359 our businesses, our agriculture, our 1065 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,520 recreation, and also to keep our 1066 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,680 environment healthy. And these are what 1067 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,480 really shaped the the focus areas of our 1068 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,240 plan. So, we have an entire chapter 1069 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,240 that's dedicated to healthy wersheds and 1070 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,880 ecosystems, one to vibrant communities 1071 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,030 and one to productive agriculture. 1072 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,040 And I just want to touch on two things 1073 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,960 briefly that change how the state water 1074 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,119 plan is developed as a result of House 1075 00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:56,000 Bill 280 passing in the 2024 legislative 1076 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,880 session. Uh first off, the code now 1077 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,280 calls for a timeline on how often the 1078 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,319 plan is to be updated. In 1990, that's 1079 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:05,839 when we had the first truly 1080 00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:07,760 comprehensive state water pan plan 1081 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,920 published, and it's been updated twice 1082 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,400 since then. Uh but now code calls for 1083 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,400 the plan to be updated no less 1084 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,040 frequently than every 10 years. And the 1085 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,800 division of water resources, we do have 1086 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,520 an internal goal to be updating the plan 1087 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,760 uh more like every 5 years. And I think 1088 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,119 that's really important that we're 1089 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:27,520 updating this on a regular basis. You 1090 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,680 know, um our as our challenges and our 1091 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,839 needs change, our focus changes, and 1092 00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:34,079 there's certainly a lot in motion right 1093 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,079 now as it relates to Great Salt Lake. 1094 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,839 So, we want statewide planning to keep 1095 00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:40,560 up with that. 1096 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,560 Collaboration is also something that was 1097 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,960 addressed in that 2024 legislation. So, 1098 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,440 the statute now identifies several state 1099 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,760 and local entities that are necessary 1100 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,200 contributors to the plan. Um, excuse me, 1101 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,200 at the state level, these are 1102 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,960 the entities that are called out. Uh 1103 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,720 it's worth noting that there are several 1104 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,720 divisions within the Department of 1105 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,480 Natural Resources as well as the 1106 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,480 Department of Environmental Quality that 1107 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,800 are our contributing partners. Uh and 1108 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,400 we're working with others even if they 1109 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,640 aren't listed in statute. For example, 1110 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,240 we're working with the Office of Energy 1111 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,240 and Development. Uh they're an important 1112 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,960 collaborator because as the the need to 1113 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,119 increase our energy uh production in the 1114 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,119 near future, I mean that will affect how 1115 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,800 we manage our water resources 1116 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,319 at the local level. the water 1117 00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:30,079 conservancy districts and the watershed 1118 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,800 councils are specifically mentioned. Um, 1119 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,240 again, we're we're trying to connect 1120 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,839 with more than what's called out there. 1121 00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:37,040 Uh, we're really working with the 1122 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,359 public, which is called out in code. Uh, 1123 00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:41,599 we've done outreach with Utah tribal 1124 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:43,920 leaders. I think the point here is we're 1125 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,839 really trying to get that diverse uh, 1126 00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:49,440 input to inform the plan 1127 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,280 and the plan vision that's guiding this 1128 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,200 work. It's it's intentionally simple, 1129 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,720 but the reality is this isn't 1130 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,640 simplistic. But I think what's important 1131 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,280 here with this vision is uh is the 1132 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,280 balance. It's not asking us to choose 1133 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,599 between the economy uh our communities 1134 00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,720 or the environment. 1135 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,400 And these are the four goals that we've 1136 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,240 lined out that the plan must accomplish 1137 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,480 to uh move us toward that vision. And I 1138 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,240 want to discuss each one just briefly in 1139 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,160 a bit more detail 1140 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,160 to ensure long-term water security. We 1141 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,200 want to make sure that we aren't 1142 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,680 planning for just one future. Certainly, 1143 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,760 there's a variety of futures that could 1144 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,079 be ahead for the state and we want to 1145 00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:27,200 make sure that we're embracing 1146 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,359 innovation and being proactive with 1147 00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:35,829 water planning 1148 00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:38,480 and our state is growing. Ultimately, we 1149 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200 need to plan for for growth in a way 1150 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,200 that aligns with our available water 1151 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,870 resources. 1152 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,119 And as we grow, we we really want to 1153 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:50,480 find innovative ways to better 1154 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,960 coordinate and share data. There's so 1155 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,800 much great work that's going on all over 1156 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,880 the state. Uh and so how can we better 1157 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,200 share data and collaborate so that we 1158 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,880 can share stewardship of our water 1159 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,440 resources. 1160 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,200 Uh with a background as an aquatic 1161 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,280 ecologist, I'm really excited about this 1162 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,520 goal. I I really feel like this plan 1163 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,760 update expands and and puts more of a 1164 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,680 focus on protecting our environment than 1165 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,640 we've seen in our previous plans. 1166 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,640 And before we dig into the update uh 1167 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,240 that we're currently working on, I just 1168 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:21,839 want to take a couple of minutes to just 1169 00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:23,359 step back and take a look at water 1170 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:25,920 planning um and how it's evolved over 1171 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,680 the years. Water planning today 1172 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,880 certainly looks a whole lot different 1173 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,599 than it did 75 years ago. And that's 1174 00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:33,280 really a reflection of the priorities 1175 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,960 and the realities of the time in which 1176 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,040 they were written. Uh over time, each 1177 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,280 plan is responding to new pressures and 1178 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,680 new information and a changing state. 1179 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,440 And certainly the water landscape that 1180 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,359 we live in, it isn't static. our 1181 00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:46,800 challenges and our needs are always 1182 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,880 changing and the update that we're 1183 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,640 working on today that's simply just the 1184 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,960 next chapter in this evolution. Uh so 1185 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,280 again as I mentioned the the first truly 1186 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,200 comprehensive state water plan that was 1187 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,920 published in 1990 but planning goes back 1188 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,640 much further than that. So the first 1189 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,800 water planning document this is uh 1190 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,119 really the the area of of planning 1191 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,200 that's deeply tied to engineering. The 1192 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,119 plan was focused on capturing and 1193 00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,920 storing water and moving it to where it 1194 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,960 could support uh growth and development. 1195 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,839 So this center on infrastructure that 1196 00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:21,839 really made sense for the time Utah was 1197 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,920 growing and water uh planning it was it 1198 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,000 was really about creating certainty uh 1199 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,920 through storage and conveyance and much 1200 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,839 of the water system that Utah relies on 1201 00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:33,200 today was built on this vision. 1202 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,400 Now by the 1963 planning document uh we 1203 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,560 see a bit of a subtle shift. planning is 1204 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640 still very infrastructure focused but 1205 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,319 the lens has widened a bit. Uh the 1206 00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:44,000 challenge it wasn't just to capture the 1207 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,480 water but to manage it well and this was 1208 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,160 the beginning of an idea I think that 1209 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640 really still shapes our work today. 1210 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,400 Water security depends on how well our 1211 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,880 systems function uh not just on how much 1212 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,760 water nature provides. 1213 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,680 Okay. So by the time we reach that first 1214 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160 state water plan uh we start to see the 1215 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,920 scope of water planning expand 1216 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,760 significantly. Communities were 1217 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,560 expanding, water uses were diversifying, 1218 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,720 and the impacts of water decisions are becoming more visible. Uh, in this 1219 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,480 plan, we see entire sections that are 1220 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,200 devoted to water pollution control, to 1221 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,880 the importance of fisheries and other 1222 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,119 aquatic wildlife. And this plan 1223 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,200 acknowledges water conservation as a 1224 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,200 necessary tool to manage our water 1225 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,440 resources. And so this reflects a 1226 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,560 growing understanding that water 1227 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,400 planning, it isn't just about delivering 1228 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,400 water to users, but about protecting 1229 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,560 water quality, supporting ecosystems, 1230 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,920 and using water more wisely. 1231 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,319 By the early 2000s, the conversation 1232 00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:42,000 becomes a bit more explicit about 1233 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,079 something Utah's always lived with, but 1234 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:45,680 hasn't always necessarily planned 1235 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,839 around. So, the plan acknowledges that 1236 00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:49,920 water's been made so readily available 1237 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,400 that its scarcity in a semi-arid climate 1238 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,640 can be easy to overlook. And I think it 1239 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,319 makes an important point here that 1240 00:46:56,319 --> 00:46:58,480 reality it needs to be fully recognized 1241 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,240 if we're going to make appropriate 1242 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,359 decisions for a growing population. And 1243 00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:05,359 what's interesting here too is this is a 1244 00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:07,359 shift from assuming availability to 1245 00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:09,440 acknowledging limits. So planning is 1246 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,040 starting to focus on not just meeting 1247 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,960 demand but on understanding the 1248 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,880 conditions that we're planning within. 1249 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,400 And I think that mindset's pretty 1250 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,079 foundational to how we think about water 1251 00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:20,640 planning today. 1252 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,880 Now, by the most recent plan, we see yet 1253 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,800 another shift. Water planning. It's 1254 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,880 explicitly tied to climate science to 1255 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,720 changing long-term trends and more 1256 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,440 frequent ex extremes. This plan, it also 1257 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,839 emphasizes the role of science and data 1258 00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:36,079 and continued collaboration in preparing 1259 00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:38,240 for the future. And we're certainly 1260 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,640 still in that era right now. Um so 1261 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,640 really uh we're we're looking at 1262 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,880 planning as building resilience in the 1263 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,800 face of uncertainty and guiding 1264 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,040 decisions uh that hold up under a wide 1265 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,920 range of conditions. 1266 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,240 Now one of the clearest signals that's 1267 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,400 shaping this update is drought and not 1268 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,319 just a single event but a pattern. We're 1269 00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:00,240 seeing more frequent and severe drought 1270 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,960 across the state. Uh this water new year 1271 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,119 we are off to a really great start. Uh 1272 00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:06,800 there were areas in the state that were 1273 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,720 setting records for the wetest October 1274 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,040 ever recorded. Uh and that was great. 1275 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,040 It, you know, saturated our soils. It 1276 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,640 was priming our wersheds for a more 1277 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,800 efficient runoff this spring. And then 1278 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,359 we hit a snow drought. Um and this is a 1279 00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:21,839 screenshot from December. And I actually 1280 00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:25,920 looked yesterday and uh this this uh 1281 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,599 image of the state droughtwise, it 1282 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:29,839 hasn't really changed a whole lot. So, a 1283 00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:32,480 lot of our state is headed into spring 1284 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,640 and in and some level of drought. And I 1285 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,319 think it's also important to note uh 1286 00:48:36,319 --> 00:48:39,680 this December screenshot. Um NDIS, they 1287 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,440 also noted that this was the lowest snow 1288 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,440 coverage that they'd recorded since uh 1289 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,720 the program started back in 2001. So, 1290 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:48,000 you know, drought, it's not just a 1291 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,680 hydraologic condition. It's shaping 1292 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,040 decisions about growth, about 1293 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,760 agriculture, about ag uh infrastructure. 1294 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,000 And so, this is really becoming a shared 1295 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,240 question. How do we prepare for a future 1296 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,599 that may not look like the past? 1297 00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,280 And another clear signal of changing 1298 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,960 times is the declining levels of Great 1299 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,800 Salt Lake. I know that is not news to 1300 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,200 anyone in this room, but for the basins 1301 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,200 that drain to the lake, this highlights 1302 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,119 really how local water decisions are 1303 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,280 connected to statewide outcomes. What 1304 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,440 happens upstream, it matters downstream. 1305 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,400 And as you all are already fully aware, 1306 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,920 the lake reminds us that water planning 1307 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,559 can't happen in isolation. 1308 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,240 Now, Lake Pal is telling a different 1309 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,079 part of the story. This is a picture of 1310 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,880 PAL back in 2021. And at this time, this 1311 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,640 was a new historic low since it started 1312 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,359 filling back in the 60s. And then we hit 1313 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:37,359 another record low the next summer and 1314 00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:39,440 then again the next summer. And there's 1315 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,200 current concerns right now about hitting 1316 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,359 Deadpool. And you know, Lake Pal's part 1317 00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:45,040 of a system that's designed to give us a 1318 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,119 buffer, some protection against those 1319 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:49,440 dry years. And when that buffer shrinks, 1320 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,079 uncertainty grows. And so this reality, 1321 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,240 it really reinforces the need for 1322 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,000 careful planning, for coordination 1323 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,480 across jurisdictions, and I think a 1324 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,400 willingness to adapt as conditions 1325 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,400 change. I I don't think we can stress 1326 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,240 enough how important it is that we pay 1327 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:08,319 attention to what's changing around us. 1328 00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:10,720 Now, when we talk about these uh 1329 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,400 indicators of a changing water 1330 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,400 landscape, uh it can really bum people 1331 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,400 out. Um you all are aware of that just 1332 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,640 with your work with Great Salt Lake and 1333 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,400 with the state water plan. We do not 1334 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,839 want to send the message that there's 1335 00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:23,920 nothing that we can do about this. The 1336 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,079 message that we want to send is that 1337 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:27,680 planning for the future is going to 1338 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,920 require us to start thinking differently 1339 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,760 about risk, resilience, and 1340 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,079 responsibility. So, with that, I want to 1341 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:36,240 just get into give you um kind of a high 1342 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:38,079 level overview of how the state water 1343 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:40,319 plan is laid out, how we're trying to 1344 00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:42,400 address these challenges, and I also 1345 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,000 want to share some specifics as they 1346 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,920 relate to Great Salt Lake and the basins 1347 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,880 that drain to the lake. So the plan will 1348 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,119 have a total of nine chapters. Today I 1349 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,359 want to drill down into chapters 2 38 2 1350 00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:55,200 through8. This is really the meat of the 1351 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,599 plan. And I also want to address how uh 1352 00:50:57,599 --> 00:50:59,760 these chapters address the lake. The 1353 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,599 lake is not siloed into just one 1354 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:04,000 chapter. 1355 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,160 So chapters 2, three, and four. I really 1356 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,319 see these as the chapters that outline 1357 00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:09,599 what sort of the limiting or 1358 00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:11,599 constraining factors are when it comes 1359 00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:13,359 to how much water we have in our state 1360 00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:16,319 and what we can do with that water. 1361 00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:18,160 And then within those constraints, how 1362 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,079 do we support our ecosystems, our 1363 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:22,880 community, and our agriculture? 1364 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,040 Chapter 8, this will discuss the unique 1365 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,119 challenges and needs across the 11 1366 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,440 basins within Utah. Uh we'll also share 1367 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,359 a success story. Uh we really want to 1368 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:33,040 highlight some aspect of all of the 1369 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,280 great work that's going on in the basins 1370 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,319 to help solve water challenges. 1371 00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:40,400 So diving into each of these chapters in 1372 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,559 a bit more detail. Chapter two will 1373 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,720 describe the current conditions uh and 1374 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:49,359 it really establishes the baseline for planning and decision making. This 1375 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:51,200 chapter will explain how supply and use 1376 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,640 are measured as well as provide a 1377 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,480 current uh water budget that details our 1378 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,800 current supply and current use. Our team 1379 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,400 just recently finished the water budget 1380 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,880 model run through 2024. Um and this 1381 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200 figure up on the screen is is showing uh 1382 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,559 that information. It's showing 1383 00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:07,040 diversions, depletions, and return flows 1384 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,520 by major basins and sectors. So, we'll 1385 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,040 be highlighting this uh sort of 1386 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,880 information in the plan. And we can 1387 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,559 break this down by basin. So, I've asked 1388 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:16,800 our team to just cut out uh or pull out 1389 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,359 what uh is relevant for the basins 1390 00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:21,920 draining to the lake. And there's a 1391 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,839 whole lot going on here. So, let me just 1392 00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:25,920 walk you through this. Um on the left, 1393 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,319 the green and the purple, uh this is the 1394 00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:30,559 diversion volume in thousand acre feet. 1395 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,359 And this is a 5-year average volume of 1396 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:36,480 diversions from 2020 through 2024. Uh 1397 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,839 you can see that the diversions are 1398 00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:39,920 broken out by surface water the green 1399 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,559 and then the purple the groundwater um 1400 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,240 and then those colors are further broken 1401 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,079 out by the main sectors. So municipal, 1402 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:49,280 industrial and agricultural diversions. 1403 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,800 Now on the right we're showing you 1404 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,880 whether the trends uh for use or excuse 1405 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,119 me for diversions are increasing, 1406 00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:58,000 decreasing or staying the same. And this 1407 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,400 trend analysis was years 1989 through 1408 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,760 2024. Uh for the Great Salt Lake basins 1409 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,480 combined up on top uh you can see that 1410 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,319 gray color which indicates that um we we 1411 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:11,839 really aren't seeing a change over the 1412 00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:14,319 years uh from the diversions uh which is 1413 00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:16,240 kind of interesting. Now if you look 1414 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,160 down on the bottom here we we have it 1415 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,520 broken out by basin. Um, and so you can 1416 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,480 see on the far right here where it says 1417 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,599 ground, um, it shows whether groundwater 1418 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:29,680 diversions are increasing or decreasing. 1419 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,760 So you can see there's a slight increase 1420 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,520 in groundwater diversions for the Bear 1421 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,359 River, Utah Lake, and West Desert 1422 00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:38,000 Basins. Uh whereas for Weber River and 1423 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,640 for the Jordan River, we're seeing um a 1424 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,920 slight uh decrease uh for surface water. 1425 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,040 uh that middle column you can see that 1426 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,000 the uh surface water diversions in the 1427 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,480 Weber River and then also in the UT Utah lake uh basin that those are 1428 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,480 actually decreasing a little bit. 1429 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,079 Moving on to chapter three. This will 1430 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:01,760 address the risks and unknowns that 1431 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,839 affect water planning uh climate and 1432 00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:05,280 population. Those are certainly two 1433 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,119 drivers that create uncertainty. So our 1434 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,040 team will model how these two factors 1435 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,960 can affect supply and demand in the 1436 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,200 future. And chapter three, it really 1437 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,960 frames uncertainty as a planning 1438 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,440 condition, uh, reinforcing why the lake 1439 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,280 is vulnerable without collaboration and 1440 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,920 coordinated management. 1441 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,760 Chapter four, this will cover how water 1442 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,680 is governed and managed in Utah and how 1443 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,240 it creates some predictability for water 1444 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,720 users. So, we'll cover who does what at 1445 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,960 the state, regional, and local levels. 1446 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,559 Uh, this includes state agencies like 1447 00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,720 the Division of Water Resources all the 1448 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,400 way down to the local irrigation 1449 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,280 companies. each has a really important 1450 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,200 role in planning or developing or 1451 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,280 regulating or delivering water. We'll 1452 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,640 highlight all of the key laws and 1453 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,040 agreements that shape water use in Utah. 1454 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,720 We'll also talk about water rights and 1455 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,480 allocation which includes federally 1456 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,480 reserved water rights um and includes 1457 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,240 tribal rights. And we'll touch on 1458 00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:58,400 innovations in how we manage and plan 1459 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,800 for water uh such as the unified water 1460 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,800 infrastructure plan or the UWIP that 1461 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,800 aims to improve coordination and funding 1462 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,720 for water infrastructure projects across 1463 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,440 the state. 1464 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,400 for the Great Salt Lake Basin. You know, 1465 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,839 there's there's constraints with the 1466 00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:15,760 existing law, but you know, we're really 1467 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,040 saying that we're seeing that there's a 1468 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,800 lot of opportunities as well. In the 1469 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,319 last few years and even in this last 1470 00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:22,079 legislative session, you know, we're 1471 00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,079 seeing that there's a lot of action um 1472 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,240 that's being taken to to help with lake 1473 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,559 levels. So, if we can keep drilling down 1474 00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,720 on how these decisions affect the lake, 1475 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:32,160 I think we can also get where there's 1476 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,400 more flexibility or room for change in 1477 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,200 how we we manage and govern. Um, you 1478 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,480 know, one thing I didn't mention at the 1479 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,480 beginning is at the end of each chapter, 1480 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,559 we'll provide recommendations on how we 1481 00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:44,720 can move uh toward those goals and that 1482 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:47,119 vision. Um, and so one of the things 1483 00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:48,720 that we'll be asking of of the council 1484 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,559 members is to help inform some of those 1485 00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:52,319 recommendations that will help protect 1486 00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:54,559 the lake. 1487 00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:56,319 So, moving into chapter five, we're 1488 00:55:56,319 --> 00:55:57,920 moving out of those constraint chapters 1489 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,520 and we're moving into kind of those 1490 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,920 three focus areas. So the state water 1491 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,680 plan will emphasize the importance of 1492 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,000 investing in our natural systems. You 1493 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,079 know, healthy wheds and ecosystems, 1494 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:09,760 they're one of the most effective and 1495 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,760 unfortunately one of the most overlooked 1496 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:17,440 ways to really build resilience um for our water future. Intact wersheds, 1497 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,440 they provide a multitude of services uh 1498 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,599 such as providing habitat for wildlife, 1499 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,079 improving water quality, um also 1500 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,240 reducing the severity of flooding and 1501 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,319 supporting more reliable base flows uh 1502 00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:32,000 in those late summer months. 1503 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,680 The plan will also address the major 1504 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,920 threats our wersheds face. Pollution, 1505 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,240 invasive species, and wildfire are 1506 00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:39,839 certainly major ones that we're focused 1507 00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:42,160 on as it relates to water quality and 1508 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,319 quantity and ecosystem health because 1509 00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:45,760 these threats can really affect those 1510 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,440 multitude of services that they provide. 1511 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,440 And protecting our wersheds is also 1512 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,200 important because they're a really great 1513 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,440 place to play. Um and this in turn is a 1514 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,680 major economic uh benefit to many of our 1515 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,760 communities. 1516 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,280 In this chapter, we'll specifically 1517 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,599 highlight the echo ecological importance 1518 00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:06,000 of the lake. Um and we'll we'll 1519 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,599 highlight the management plans that are 1520 00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:09,599 already in place to protect the lake as 1521 00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:11,520 well as provide recommendations to 1522 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,079 bolster and expand those programs. Um 1523 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:15,839 and you know the lake it supports 1524 00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:18,160 recreation, it supports tourism and that 1525 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,920 sort of bleeds us over into our next 1526 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,160 chapter on vibrant communities. Uh but 1527 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,599 before I move on, I do want to say that 1528 00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:25,599 we intentionally structured these 1529 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:27,440 chapters this way so that healthy 1530 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,599 watersheds and ecosystems is first 1531 00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:32,160 because without those being healthy, 1532 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,079 it's really hard to fully support our 1533 00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:37,200 communities and our agriculture. 1534 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,440 So long-term planning will be key to uh 1535 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,760 ensure our water resources are are ready 1536 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,200 to support areas with a growing 1537 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,520 population, ensure that our economic 1538 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,599 opportunities are set up for success as 1539 00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:49,119 we see an increase in energy 1540 00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:51,440 development, especially geothermal and 1541 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,599 other alternative energy sources, and 1542 00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:55,359 that we have a strategy in place to 1543 00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:57,200 seize future opportunities such as 1544 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,920 hosting the upcoming 2034 Olympics. 1545 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,000 Ultimately, we need to plan for growth, 1546 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,599 including the need to grow our energy 1547 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,599 supply in ways that align with our 1548 00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:08,720 available water resources. 1549 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,799 And we want to continue to assess how we 1550 00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:12,400 can better manage demand by growing 1551 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,400 water wise through the the use of smart 1552 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:15,839 water technology such as smart 1553 00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:18,000 irrigation timers. We'll be highlighting 1554 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,839 all of the rebate programs and 1555 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:21,680 incentives and educational workshops 1556 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,680 that are available to Utons to help make 1557 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,480 water- wise decisions. And uh the plan 1558 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,240 will continue to stress the importance 1559 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,040 of secondary water water metering a as 1560 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,440 well as you know how we can continue to 1561 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,920 use tiered water rates uh to reward 1562 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,720 conservation efforts. 1563 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,240 And just as we're looking at how we can 1564 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,000 better manage demand, we'll also look at 1565 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,000 how we can expand and optimize our 1566 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,000 supply through planning for repair and 1567 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,760 replacement of aging infrastructure, 1568 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,880 through the development of new 1569 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,440 infrastructure, um, and and implementing 1570 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,520 projects and and this is statewide, but 1571 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,119 uh, implementing projects like water 1572 00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:57,440 reuse, aquafer storage and recovery, and 1573 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,680 water loss control that can help us to 1574 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,400 expand um, and and protect our our water 1575 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,400 supplies. 1576 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,240 And I've already touched on this a bit, 1577 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,319 but we want to highlight the economic 1578 00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:10,160 importance of the lake. There's direct 1579 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,760 connections such as the importance of 1580 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,319 wildlife viewing, uh, bird hunting to 1581 00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:16,240 indirect connections such as the lake 1582 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,000 effect snow that helps support our ski 1583 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,880 resorts along the Wasatch Front. 1584 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,960 And now moving on to this last focus 1585 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,960 area, supporting our agricultural 1586 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,640 community is going to be key to a 1587 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,200 resilient water future. agriculture. 1588 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,440 It's really the cornerstone of our 1589 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,920 economy and our our identity. And so the 1590 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,520 state water plan is supporting farmers 1591 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,119 and ranchers by identifying and 1592 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,000 highlighting the importance of uh grant 1593 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,359 programs and other financial 1594 00:59:41,359 --> 00:59:43,599 opportunities that are available to them 1595 00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:45,200 uh to help producers improve their 1596 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,119 operations as well as identifying ways 1597 00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,119 to use water more efficiently all the 1598 00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:51,200 while preserving agricultural lands and 1599 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,680 traditions. So the plan will outline 1600 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,839 opportunities that are available through 1601 00:59:55,839 --> 00:59:58,000 uh these programs. We'll also be digging 1602 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,319 into best management practices with a 1603 01:00:00,319 --> 01:00:02,480 focus on sort of two core areas. 1604 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,680 Off-farm and onfarm. So off farm we'll 1605 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,960 be looking at the improvement of the 1606 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,200 conveyance system and the measurement 1607 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,799 and control of water throughout the 1608 01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,720 system. And then on farm we'll be 1609 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,240 looking at best management practices 1610 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,720 that optimize agricultural water use. U 1611 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,720 those are usually focused on system 1612 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,480 infrastructure as well as the management 1613 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,200 of crops, soil and uh irrigation water 1614 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,359 application. 1615 01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:26,799 And I think it's going to be important 1616 01:00:26,799 --> 01:00:28,960 to discuss how agriculture can be part 1617 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,880 of the solution as we plan for the 1618 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,720 lakes's uh water future. It's certainly 1619 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,040 not separate from it. Uh the plan points 1620 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,559 out the importance of the brine shrimp 1621 01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,880 industry to aquaculture across the 1622 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,359 globe. Um so again the lake is not 1623 01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:43,920 siloed into just one chapter. Um it's 1624 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,040 touched on across the plan. 1625 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,880 Now the final chapter that I would like 1626 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,200 to discuss is the um the basin 1627 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,960 perspective chapter where we highlight 1628 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,359 challenges and needs and a success. And 1629 01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:57,119 what's shaping this chapter is our 1630 01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:59,760 conversation with the wershed councils. 1631 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,680 Uh it's also informed by what we heard 1632 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,440 at our our public meetings that we held 1633 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,520 this last springer uh summer and into 1634 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,559 fall. Um and you know the council we 1635 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,079 asked them to identify challenges and 1636 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:12,319 needs within the basin and those were 1637 01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:14,160 pretty much echoed by the participants 1638 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,079 that joined our public meetings. So I 1639 01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:18,480 want to share just a real highlevel um 1640 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,160 overview of some of the key takeaways 1641 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,480 from that. 1642 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,559 So several shared challenges 1643 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,559 consistently surfaced across the basins 1644 01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:28,720 that are connected to Great Salt Lake 1645 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,960 basins are experiencing growing demand 1646 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,520 and as as communities expand and at the 1647 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,760 same time people are concerned about 1648 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,599 variable and limited water supplies as 1649 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:39,359 we head into the future uh they're 1650 01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:41,599 concerned about how drought is going to 1651 01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:44,079 stress surface and groundwater systems. 1652 01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:46,079 There's also infrastructure challenges, 1653 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:47,440 systems that need maintenance and 1654 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,520 upgrades, uh, new approaches to address 1655 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,000 new and evolving needs. And layered over 1656 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,480 all of this is the need to balance um, 1657 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,319 you know, municipal, agriculture, 1658 01:01:56,319 --> 01:01:58,480 recreation, environmental needs. And 1659 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,359 these challenges are real. They're showing up in daily decisions 1660 01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:03,440 and budget conversations. So, they 1661 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,200 really are shaping how we plan together. 1662 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,680 So, just to wrap up, I'd like to share 1663 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,359 our council members can help shape the 1664 01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:13,599 plan as well as how others can engage. 1665 01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:15,200 For council members, we want to invite 1666 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,280 you to review and provide feedback on a 1667 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,599 draft that will be available in May. Uh 1668 01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,520 right now, we're we're aiming for early 1669 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,040 May, so I'm hoping that we can stick 1670 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,280 with that. Uh we'd also like to hear any 1671 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760 recommendations that you all may have uh 1672 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,599 to help support efforts to protect the 1673 01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:31,200 lake. 1674 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,119 Uh for everyone else that's joining us, 1675 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:34,960 uh we'd also love to have you be part of 1676 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,599 the process as well. There's still uh an 1677 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,760 opportunity to engage in the plan before 1678 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,079 the final is available in December. Uh 1679 01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,000 so this summer we're aiming for early 1680 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,000 July. We'll put the plan out for public 1681 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,839 comment. At this point, we'll be putting 1682 01:02:47,839 --> 01:02:49,680 out what we consider to be a final draft 1683 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,680 and we'll see if uh the public agrees 1684 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,160 that it is indeed the final draft. Uh if 1685 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,760 you would like to be notified of that 1686 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,599 public comment period or when the final 1687 01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,680 draft is available in December, uh 1688 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,720 please do sign up for email updates. The 1689 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,240 QR code, it actually will take you to 1690 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,400 the state water plan web page. Uh you 1691 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:07,599 need to scroll down just a little bit, 1692 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:09,200 but you'll see the button to sign up for 1693 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,160 email updates. 1694 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,000 And with that, I'd be happy to answer 1695 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,319 any questions. Uh I'd also love to hear 1696 01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:17,920 any recommendations that you all might 1697 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,440 have of what you would like to see 1698 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,720 included in the plan. 1699 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,839 Thank you. Any comments or questions 1700 01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:28,880 from the council first? 1701 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,559 >> Tom's put his finger on button so he's 1702 01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:31,039 going to talk. 1703 01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:31,599 >> Okay. 1704 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:34,319 >> Thank you, Stephanie. Um maybe bringing 1705 01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:36,880 together what uh Representative Kofford 1706 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,640 mentioned, our challenge of getting 1707 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,839 municipalities to conserve at a level 1708 01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:44,400 that that would 1709 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,240 guide us towards success at least in the 1710 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,119 Great Salt Lake Basin. Um, we've seen 1711 01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:51,839 this uh act repeated several times 1712 01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:53,839 through the legislature and for those 1713 01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:56,160 involved with development or providing 1714 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,240 homes and businesses. I'm interested in 1715 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,240 uh how how that is since that's a 1716 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,720 central thing that needs to happen for 1717 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,960 successful plan on a zero sum game of 1718 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,079 the amount of water that is now 1719 01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:12,319 decreasing with Great Salt Lake and then 1720 01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:15,039 Colorado River you know is likely to 1721 01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:19,039 decrease it or not get bigger right so 1722 01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:22,640 on that front uh where in your plan does 1723 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,599 it say here's the amount of water that 1724 01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:28,880 once we take out a healthy lake and our 1725 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,119 essential needs for potable drinking 1726 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,079 water and business. Um how much is 1727 01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:36,960 allocated for what I'll call um 1728 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,079 discretionary turf? Um and I'm not sign 1729 01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:41,520 talking agriculture is not 1730 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,039 discretionary. 1731 01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:47,280 Um how is that pointed out? And I I'll mention something that I thought 1732 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,039 was really 1733 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,160 uh interesting. uh I believe it was um 1734 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,880 the general manager for um Washington 1735 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,480 County Water Conservancy District had 1736 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,480 gone to his communities and said here's 1737 01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,920 we don't have enough water to build the 1738 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,400 number of homes you want unless you use 1739 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,640 less water per household and that got 1740 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,079 the development community actually 1741 01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:07,359 thinking on their own and saying well 1742 01:05:07,359 --> 01:05:10,240 what if we cut the water by you know 50 1743 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,559 60 70%. Well you can build a whole lot 1744 01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:14,480 more homes 1745 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,960 that's just a simple 1746 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,280 math thing and is that somewhere built 1747 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,280 into here? So that decision is made and 1748 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,200 put forefront because it I would hate 1749 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,799 for the plan to get done and then we all 1750 01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:26,799 seen kumbaya we know it's not going to 1751 01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:28,000 work. 1752 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,359 >> Yeah, absolutely. Uh so we will be we in 1753 01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:33,599 our current water budget. So we do break 1754 01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:36,480 out indoor from outdoor use. Uh and then 1755 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,880 when we get into planning for the 1756 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,640 future, looking at future supply and 1757 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,440 demand, uh we do build in some scenarios 1758 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,039 to look at, you know, what would happen 1759 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:47,119 if we continue kind of where we're at 1760 01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:49,680 right now. And then what happens if we 1761 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:54,319 increase our conservation and with that would include also other things 1762 01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:55,920 like lot size. I mean, there's kind of a 1763 01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,799 trend going towards building smaller sized lots and and decreasing 1764 01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:04,400 that amount of of turf in there. um you 1765 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,599 know if if we can if we don't implement 1766 01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:10,720 conservation and I believe it was60 is 1767 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,720 what we kind of put those uh scenarios 1768 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,119 out to and again as you move further out 1769 01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:17,520 into time right that uncertainty grows 1770 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:22,400 but I believe it was around um 475,000 1771 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,920 acre feet that that we would have a 1772 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,000 deficit overall across the state of 1773 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,720 course this varies by by basin and um 1774 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,839 and I can get that information to you 1775 01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:34,079 >> if I can just be a little more clear. I 1776 01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:35,680 think it would be helpful for our 1777 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,440 legislators and our general public to 1778 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,680 understand if you want a certain amount 1779 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,160 of homes with the amount of water we 1780 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,960 have, here's what you can have. What for 1781 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,280 instance, the past studies would say, 1782 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,839 would you like to have a lawn or not? 1783 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:52,000 >> Well, if that's not an option, you don't 1784 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,160 go tell everyone 1785 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,440 you get where I'm wrong with that. I 1786 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,960 think that 1787 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,599 >> um the more that we can be clear on the 1788 01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,280 decisions to be made, on the pros and 1789 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,640 cons, and there's a whiff them, right? 1790 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,400 if I can build more homes, if I'm just a 1791 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,240 developer, um, but yet I allow as a city 1792 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,039 council. So, I work for a city. It's 1793 01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,440 hard for them to limit development when 1794 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,440 everyone says thinks they want a a turf 1795 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,760 lawn. The developer saves a lot of 1796 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,319 money. I I call it as a tax that's put 1797 01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:23,359 on a new family and a community if we 1798 01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:26,160 allow future development to include 1799 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,319 nonfunctional turf. And seems as we 1800 01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:30,400 dance around that, we could be dancing 1801 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,160 another 20 years and still not get 1802 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:32,720 there. 1803 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,160 >> Yeah. And I think the more that we can 1804 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,119 work uh with municipalities to implement 1805 01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:39,440 ordinances that, you know, sort of call 1806 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,520 for what that outdoor landscaping is, I 1807 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,880 think that's going to be important. So 1808 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,400 th those are things that will be called 1809 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,880 out in the plan. And I think one of the 1810 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,319 things that we'd really like to do is is 1811 01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:50,160 work with folks to ch help champion 1812 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,839 those efforts so that we can get to that 1813 01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:53,920 point. I think that's really important. 1814 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,160 And you know what you say too is we 1815 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,319 really need to decide how we want to 1816 01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:01,440 grow. You know, I mean there's a lot of 1817 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,119 conversations about whether or not water 1818 01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:05,440 really is that limiting constraint, but 1819 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:11,440 do we want to double decker I-15 uh to put more people here? I don't know if 1820 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,880 that's how we want to grow as a state. 1821 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,590 >> I think Tom's telling you to be bold 1822 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,679 in preaching conservation. Other 1823 01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:25,359 questions or comments? Go ahead. 1824 01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:28,799 >> I just want to vote uh voice my thanks 1825 01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:31,679 uh to Stephanie um being a water shed 1826 01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:33,759 liaison and being involved in several 1827 01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:36,000 other groups. I think she's done a good 1828 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,759 job of canvasing the state and trying to 1829 01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:40,799 get input across the state and um this 1830 01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:43,359 is a difficult task to prepare a 1831 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:46,319 watershed plan uh I mean a state water 1832 01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:49,520 plan especially with all the things 1833 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,920 going on with the great salt lake and 1834 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,000 things and I just wanted to thank her 1835 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,520 for 1836 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,159 the extensive outreach that I've seen so 1837 01:08:58,159 --> 01:08:59,359 far. 1838 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,440 >> Thank you. I appreciate that 1839 01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:04,799 >> comments otherwise we have one online 1840 01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:09,910 from Warren. 1841 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,120 » Thank you Leland. I just wanted to 1842 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,440 underline and shout out something that 1843 01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:17,040 Stephanie's already said that as these 1844 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,640 drafts come out it's really important I 1845 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,600 would suggest to get the drafts read 1846 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,319 them mark them up send them back. I know from past experience that the 1847 01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:30,960 division's been very responsive, 1848 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,480 but they need that feedback. It's 1849 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:35,199 important. Uh but I wanted to also ask 1850 01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:38,239 Stephanie a question. Do the does the 1851 01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:40,480 plan address the institutional 1852 01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:42,400 architecture for how we do water 1853 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,480 management? Is it is it going to be 1854 01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,719 addressed in the plan or is that just 1855 01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:49,920 too too bold of an undertaking? 1856 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:54,560 Warren, can you expand on institutional 1857 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,560 >> architecture? I was afraid you would ask 1858 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,880 that, but how how do we make water 1859 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,800 decisions? How do we coordinate between 1860 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,400 agencies? Uh who who has do we have 1861 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,120 clear authority in the areas where it is 1862 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,520 needed? Those are some pretty hefty 1863 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,960 questions, but I wondered if the if that 1864 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,880 helps understand what I mean by 1865 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,040 institutional architecture. Are we are 1866 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,600 we structured properly or ideally or 1867 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,080 optimally for how water decisions are 1868 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,600 made, water management decisions are 1869 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,520 made, how forward planning is done and 1870 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,080 so on or or 1871 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,080 as you've put this plan together, have 1872 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:37,600 you seen areas where maybe we could improve our game by uh maybe 1873 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:44,239 some adjustments to how we've built the U water management agencies 1874 01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:46,159 and so on. 1875 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,640 I'll I'll take a crack at answering 1876 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,080 that. Uh, you know, I've been with the 1877 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,520 Division of Water Resources since 1878 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,080 January of 2025, so I don't know if I 1879 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,920 have the institutional background to 1880 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,560 fully answer that, but I will say that 1881 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,159 I've been really impressed working on 1882 01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:02,239 the state water plan with all of the 1883 01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:06,719 collaboration and communication with our sister agencies, with the the local 1884 01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:08,800 water conservancy districts, the wershed 1885 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,960 councils. And I to me that's a big part 1886 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,280 of it is just breaking down those silos 1887 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,520 and having everyone communicate so that 1888 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,600 we can really identify maybe where some 1889 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,719 of those gaps are at. 1890 01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:22,000 >> I think there's always improvements 1891 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,760 though and I think that we've seen that 1892 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,440 with a lot of the legislation that's 1893 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:26,800 coming through. We're we're finding 1894 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,640 those areas where we can change how we 1895 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,120 manage and govern water. 1896 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,600 >> I think if I if I may, Mr. Chair, I' I'd 1897 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,960 go a step along with Stephanie. We we've 1898 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,880 got really great people and very 1899 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,640 dedicated people. We couldn't ask for 1900 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,880 better, but are are we doing things that 1901 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:47,590 hold them back is my big concern. 1902 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,400 » Thank you. Um he's asking for a 1903 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,400 benevolent water master who is all 1904 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,719 powerful 1905 01:11:56,719 --> 01:11:58,480 >> and and omnicient. We need omnition 1906 01:11:58,480 --> 01:11:59,280 there too, Leand. 1907 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,360 >> There you go. 1908 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,480 Other uh comments or questions from the 1909 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:06,400 Go ahead. 1910 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:07,760 You know, I think that's a I think 1911 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,960 that's a great uh concept. Uh when we 1912 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,480 talk about coordination and 1913 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:14,080 collaboration 1914 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,679 and um you know, what I see is a lot of 1915 01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:19,199 airplanes, 1916 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:23,360 you know, flying around and um with an 1917 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,520 air traffic controller, you know, trying 1918 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,400 to u find intersecting interest and 1919 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,080 trying to trying to get everybody on the 1920 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,239 same page. There's so many organizations 1921 01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:34,880 that are doing such great things and and 1922 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,719 I think the the creation of the Great 1923 01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:38,400 Salt Lake Commissioner's Office is is 1924 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,600 huge to have that. We also, you know, 1925 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:42,880 have the Great Salt Lake Sentinel 1926 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,800 Landscape, which is a fairly new 1927 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,440 designation. And the entire intent of 1928 01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:50,480 that organization, which many of you are 1929 01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:57,280 partners of, is to provide that that platform to do collaboration and 1930 01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,640 coordination. Um and so far it's working 1931 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,360 quite well. But uh I I think that's 1932 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,840 imperative to have you know every time I 1933 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,360 come here I learn all these different uh 1934 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,920 things that are taking place and uh you 1935 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,120 know having that uh that ability to to 1936 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:17,280 crosswalk ideas and exchange uh you know 1937 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,040 best practices uh coordinate priorities 1938 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,480 and resources. Uh I think that uh always 1939 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:26,560 we can do better, but I think we're, you 1940 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:27,760 know, I think we're making some real 1941 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,600 strides in that regard and I think 1942 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,199 having a the great Salt Lake City 1943 01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:34,239 landscape is is a huge step towards 1944 01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:36,880 attaining that uh that goal. Thanks. 1945 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:42,080 >> Thank you. Had another comment out here. 1946 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,760 >> Thank you. Um I love your analogy of uh 1947 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,159 all of the planes in flight. Tyler, I 1948 01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:49,840 was just wondering among those planes 1949 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,280 are the watershed councils and um your 1950 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,640 reference to the um opportunities that 1951 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,960 come from those perspectives and those 1952 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,960 on the ground u observations, but there 1953 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,960 is no funding for watershed councils. 1954 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,360 And I was wondering if that is something 1955 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,960 that um in in short order we might be 1956 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,560 able to find funding to help enliven 1957 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,640 their contributions a little a little 1958 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,280 more effectively. 1959 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,000 >> I don't know that I'm the appropriate 1960 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,159 person to answer that. I'm all for it. I 1961 01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:25,440 you know I've met with the watershed 1962 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:27,760 councils and I hear the frustration of 1963 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,120 the things that they'd like to do but 1964 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:34,400 needing that funding. Um I'm hoping that comes in future um legislative 1965 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,199 sessions so that folks can you know the 1966 01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:39,199 division of water resources we we are 1967 01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:40,719 fully behind supporting the wershed 1968 01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:43,120 council. So I think that would be great. 1969 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,640 Um as a nonregulatory agency uh the 1970 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,480 division of water resources doesn't have 1971 01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:50,400 that power but um that might be 1972 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,920 something that we could maybe touch on 1973 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,920 in the plan of of supporting those local 1974 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,270 groups. 1975 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,960 Other comments? 1976 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,239 >> Uh yeah, just a question. Is the plan 1977 01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:06,960 ultimately going to 1978 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,159 provide guidance? Is it going to make 1979 01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:13,600 policy recommendations? Is it going to 1980 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,400 identify issues to start out with right 1981 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,880 at the be, you know, at the start? I 1982 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,239 mean, is it going to be an action 1983 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:22,960 document that we can look to? 1984 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,760 >> That is the the plan uh for for what we 1985 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,679 would like to do. We'd like to provide 1986 01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:29,600 actionable steps and strategies and we'd 1987 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,040 like to do that at the individual, 1988 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,679 local, and state levels for folks. Uh, 1989 01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:34,960 one of the things that's really great 1990 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,440 with uh collaborating with our sister 1991 01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:39,600 agencies and other folks is finding 1992 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,360 folks that can help us to champion those 1993 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,199 efforts. So, what do we want to 1994 01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:45,199 accomplish and who is the right person 1995 01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,760 to kind of put behind guiding on that? 1996 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,159 um our our section we have two staff and 1997 01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:52,159 so that'll be part of what we do in 1998 01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:54,880 January of 2027 is starting to help move 1999 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,120 those forward. But yes, the the plan is 2000 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,800 to provide actionable steps and 2001 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,590 strategies that are that are clear. 2002 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,960 » Thank you. Um see no other questions. We 2003 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,280 want to thank Stephanie and for the 2004 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,440 presentation today and for the 2005 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:13,440 information and encourage everyone here 2006 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,920 to comment on the plan and provide 2007 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,480 feedback when that May time frame rolls 2008 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:22,000 around and perhaps uh Angela, you could 2009 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,760 get a link to it when it's available and 2010 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,719 send it out to the council members. 2011 01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:34,550 >> Thank you. 2012 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,640 Uh, we're up to our public comment 2013 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,360 period. Do we have any public public 2014 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,560 comment other than Lynn who is going to 2015 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,159 publicly comment to us? 2016 01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:46,000 >> I I just want to thank the Great Salt 2017 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,000 Lake Advisory Council once again for 2018 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,239 your sponsorship support of the Great 2019 01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:52,640 Salt Lake Issues Forum. Um this will be 2020 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,880 an opportunity for us to recognize what 2021 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:59,199 we've accomplished since 2024 and um 2022 01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,560 management issues uh practices policies 2023 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,360 and research. So I look forward to 2024 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,520 hosting you all and thank you again for 2025 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,719 your support and your important work. 2026 01:17:10,719 --> 01:17:14,800 >> We have a comment online from Saurin. 2027 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,400 >> Good morning. I'm sorry I can't be there 2028 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,640 in person because I have have a couple 2029 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,600 meetings back to back and uh didn't have 2030 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,600 the the time to travel where you are. 2031 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,760 But uh good to see you online and listen 2032 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,920 in. Um I have just one thought. Um you 2033 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,920 know my many of you know my role with 2034 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,159 the Jordan River Commission and 2035 01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,000 providing staff support to the Jordan 2036 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,679 River Wershed Council. We're grateful to 2037 01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:40,880 have Heidi there representing us today. 2038 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,199 Um we have been thinking a lot about um 2039 01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:48,000 you know how to get messages out. Uh 2040 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,520 there was a lot of discussion when 2041 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,880 Representative Kofford uh was presenting 2042 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,880 earlier about um you know how mandates 2043 01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,159 versus uh you know building um just just 2044 01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:02,400 the desire for individuals to get 2045 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,880 involved and engaged. And I think there 2046 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,880 are many people that want to know what 2047 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,600 to do, but they don't often know how to 2048 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,960 do it. We often rely on government 2049 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,440 agencies to be the communicators on 2050 01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:17,920 this, but they're not always effective 2051 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,719 at re reaching the masses. I know a lot 2052 01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:22,960 of people follow closely what happens 2053 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,440 with their city councils and with the 2054 01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:27,280 state legislature, but many people 2055 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,560 don't. And we've been doing a a lot of 2056 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,320 brainstorming with the Jordan River 2057 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,400 Commission about, you know, what what 2058 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,640 are effective messengers of some of 2059 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,679 these issues around conservation, around 2060 01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:42,400 water quality and stewardship. 2061 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,199 And uh we actually think that um 2062 01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:47,840 engaging faith communities would be a 2063 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,679 really valuable tool. You know, we have 2064 01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:53,679 a predominant faith in uh much of Utah, 2065 01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:55,920 but there are many faith communities. 2066 01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,000 All of them have substantive um beliefs 2067 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,440 and values around caring for the earth. 2068 01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:05,760 Uh and that's often looked at very 2069 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,159 broadly, but we know here in the Wasatch 2070 01:19:08,159 --> 01:19:10,480 Front region, it's very specific. We 2071 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:13,280 have a lake that needs our help. And so 2072 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,760 I would love to challenge um the Great 2073 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,719 Salt Lake Advisory Council and and all 2074 01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:21,840 of the watershed councils that are 2075 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,000 working around um the the a healthy lake 2076 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,480 and a healthy riparian system that feeds 2077 01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:31,679 the lake. To think how we might uh 2078 01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:35,520 employ uh faith communities from every 2079 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,000 religious background, but including our 2080 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:42,159 predominant faith uh organizations. 2081 01:19:42,159 --> 01:19:45,440 uh at the regional level to help tackle 2082 01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:47,440 this really important regional challenge 2083 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:50,320 that we have. You know, I I I know we've 2084 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,040 had a governor who is part of our uh 2085 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,040 major faith community asking people to 2086 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,520 pray for rain and for water and 2087 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,560 moisture. Um and uh some could argue 2088 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,920 that that maybe has been effective. Um 2089 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,159 you know, uh his call for rain resulted 2090 01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:08,159 in a pretty wet February and early 2091 01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:11,600 March. Um, but there's so much more than 2092 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,520 we need to be doing on the conservation 2093 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,679 front. I I'm a member of that faith 2094 01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:17,600 community as well. And I know I hear 2095 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,080 people in my congregation saying, "We 2096 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,400 prayed for rain and it came and so we 2097 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,400 don't have to worry so much." And I'm 2098 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,480 like, "No, no, we're in a long-term 2099 01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,560 drought. Climate change and water 2100 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,239 consumption are affecting the lake." Um, 2101 01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:35,040 and so, you know, I'd love to to just 2102 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,360 find ways to how we can meaningfully 2103 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:42,800 engage faith communities because that is a really big motivator for so 2104 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,640 many people 2105 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,640 uh in in many faith uh, you know, faith 2106 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,440 communities and would love to find some 2107 01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:55,040 ways to help build messages that can be 2108 01:20:55,040 --> 01:21:04,880 developed and and and encourage the the proliferation of that message across 2109 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,600 faith communities in our region. So just 2110 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,239 a just a thought about, you know, trying 2111 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:13,199 to engage really effective messengers on 2112 01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:16,159 this really really important topic for a 2113 01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:20,320 healthy lake and and watershed system. 2114 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,000 >> Thank you. That's good comment. Any 2115 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:27,430 other comments? 2116 01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:30,000 » Thanks, Leland. Um, 2117 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,719 I've been working on water in Utah for 2118 01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:34,320 about 30 years and before that I worked 2119 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,080 in other parts of the country and the 2120 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,679 project that brought me to Utah was the 2121 01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:40,159 Central Utah Completion Act, the Central 2122 01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:43,600 Utah project. And I would ask, you know, 2123 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,400 at all levels to understand kind of how 2124 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,800 that was a really unique successful 2125 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,640 project. I understand it took 30 years 2126 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,400 of negotiation with the Fed to get that 2127 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,040 agreement in place. and I'll offer a 2128 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,880 couple things that could be tools that 2129 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,280 we are tested and would go to the 2130 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,280 future. So I worked 18 years at Salt 2131 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,120 Lake City and now I've been at Sandy for 2132 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,480 almost 10. Um and that agreement both 2133 01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:08,239 Sandy and Salt Lake through Metropolitan 2134 01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:10,320 Water have a petition to the central 2135 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,120 Utah completion act water and a couple 2136 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,080 requirements of receiving water would be 2137 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,560 to meet certain conservation goals that 2138 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,040 were specifically in the contract. And 2139 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,880 if you did not meet that goal, you had 2140 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,800 to pay 2141 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,600 um back to central Utah huge amounts of 2142 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,280 money. Now that money came back into 2143 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,880 conservation to because we don't need 2144 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,800 more money, we need more water. We can 2145 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,080 go find money in other parts of the 2146 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,280 country, but we can't find water and 2147 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:36,960 bring it here. So I think that's a 2148 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,679 really tested model that was used for 2149 01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:42,239 those cities that started a 100 years 2150 01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:44,719 ago and that could work really well for 2151 01:22:44,719 --> 01:22:46,800 those that want to grow now, the Mason 2152 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,080 communities. And so it becomes a a self 2153 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,239 feedback loop and funds what they need 2154 01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:54,239 to do. The second part of that that I 2155 01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:57,199 would add is that act required 2156 01:22:57,199 --> 01:22:59,840 environmental water development uh 2157 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,360 agricultural water efficiency projects. 2158 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,760 Um and those commitments were all tied 2159 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,800 into a holistic system. I see lots of 2160 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:09,920 elements of what we're doing with our 2161 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,440 plan. Where' Stephanie go? I can't see 2162 01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:13,440 with the light. But um I really love 2163 01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:15,040 what I'm hearing and seeing and where we 2164 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,960 can repeat that. The other reason I 2165 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,120 offer that out is that there's a memory 2166 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,199 within the older community and a 2167 01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:23,120 recognition in the newer community. Hey, 2168 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,440 that worked. You know, that restored, if 2169 01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:26,560 you look over between Deer Creek and 2170 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,400 Jordanell, that used to not be a 2171 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,080 beautiful river flowing there. That was 2172 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,480 the money from the central Utah project 2173 01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:34,239 paid for by Salt Lake and Sandy and 2174 01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:35,520 those that are receiving that water. I 2175 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,440 know many other districts get that. So, 2176 01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:39,040 I would add in those elements that 2177 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,280 people are familiar with. One of our big 2178 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,280 obstacles has been getting our 2179 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,840 legislators, our municipal leaders to 2180 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,440 get on board. And if we can point to 2181 01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:49,679 something like, well, this is like this 2182 01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:51,760 other program that worked really well. 2183 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,800 How can we use that here? So, um, thank 2184 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,000 you. 2185 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,920 >> Any comment? Uh, any more? One more. 2186 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:01,600 >> Thank you. I just wanted to take the 2187 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,520 opportunity to introduce myself to the 2188 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,880 council. I'm the new director of the 2189 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,560 division of water resources. I I know 2190 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:07,760 many of you, but there's a few new 2191 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,600 faces. As you know, Candace Hosene 2192 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:10,880 Jagger decided to take on a new 2193 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,480 challenge and and go over and lead the 2194 01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:14,800 division of water quality. So, I am 2195 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,360 excited to to work with you through our great team at water resources. I 2196 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,440 know you know many of our team and 2197 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:23,360 appreciate the coordination that we've 2198 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,080 had with with so many of you. Excited to 2199 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,760 collaborate on on water conservation 2200 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,440 efforts. I know we appreciate the water 2201 01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:31,679 conservancy districts and helping to 2202 01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:33,199 administer the landscape incentive 2203 01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:36,960 program uh removing uh unnecessary grass 2204 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,880 and and putting in water wise plants and 2205 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:43,040 then also our conservation efforts with toilet replacement and smart 2206 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,280 controllers and would love to be 2207 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,880 involved in those conversations and see 2208 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,800 what we can do to help further the the 2209 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,159 conservation in the state because we do 2210 01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:51,679 see that as being really important going 2211 01:24:51,679 --> 01:24:53,280 forward. So, thank you. 2212 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,600 >> Thank you. Uh we'll close our public 2213 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,920 comment period. We have other member 2214 01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,960 discussion. Do we have any uh council 2215 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,520 recommendations on council issues, 2216 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,800 priorities, future council meetings that 2217 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,159 we want to bring up at this point? 2218 01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:12,400 Seeing none, 2219 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,679 um and getting to our last item on the 2220 01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:19,600 agenda, I will take a motion to adjurnn. 2221 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:20,000 So move. 2222 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,040 >> Thank you. 2223 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:27,280 >> Got a motion to a second. All in favor? 2224 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:27,920 I 2225 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:28,800 >> I 2226 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,040 >> thank you.