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feeling ready, uh, Wade, Jason, I can

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kick us off with just some brief kind of

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overviews here and then, uh, I can pass

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over the reigns if that sounds good. Um,

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though, don't let me step on toes if

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there's any, uh, official meeting, uh,

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commencing that needs to occur. I'm not

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real familiar with the, uh, terminology

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that's required here.

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>> Robert Robert's rules.

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>> Yes. Yes. Thank you. We we'll go ahead

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and just uh start this meeting. I'll get us started. We'll do roll call

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and then we'll kick it over to you to

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give us look at the numbers um per the

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agenda. So everybody hopefully everybody

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got the agenda.

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>> If not uh leave the message in and we'll

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>> um welcome everybody. This is our uh RTP

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review meeting for the Utah HV Advisory

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Council. Um we

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are grateful for everybody being here.

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minute and thank Eric. This is going to

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be his last meeting. Um so he's served

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nearly eight years on this council

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already. Well, pretty much eight years

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on this council already. and he's put in

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a lot of time and and uh been a very um

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knowledgeable resource to all of us and

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I I know that uh I've I've really

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appreciated all of your comments and all

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of your feedback during the meetings. Uh

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and I think I speak for all of us when I

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say that. Um thank you for your service

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and and thank you for joining us today.

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call for everybody that's on the call.

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the list as I see it. Um, just tell us

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your name and what you

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or who what uh position you are in

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relation to the board or and then we'll

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as well. So, we'll start with myself. My

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chairman of this council and member at

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large. Uh, we'll go to Brody.

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general, counsel for the board.

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administrator for the recreational

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recreation. I oversee and manage the OP

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Lands Administration.

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>> Thank you. Wade

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five minutes of a look at the numbers

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saying another huge thank you and, uh,

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just, you know, not only for just being

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a part of this process in general to

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each of you, but just for, uh, you know,

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your patience as we rescheduled this

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meeting, your availability. I know it's

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a, a massive ask asking you guys to

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evaluate each of these projects and to

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just be, you know, part of this

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committee and a part of this process in

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general. So, um, thank you. That's all I

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can say. Just thank you so much. Um, let

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me let me pause real quick. I will say

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gonna have our moderator move you. I

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think you're not classified.

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here. Um, and hopefully Dave, we can get

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you moved over to the the correct uh

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assignment so you can uh participate in

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the meeting. Um, but yes, just thank

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you. I we appreciate you all as being a

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part of this council and a part of this

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process. So, um, let me just briefly go

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over the numbers numbers because they

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have changed since we last met. So,

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since our last meeting, uh, we were

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actually able to identify an additional

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came in just a little bit below budget

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uh, or projects that, uh, you know,

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know, whatever happened, projects failed

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to get off the ground, that funding has

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this year. Um, so what that looks like

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total available for RTP. Uh, and so if

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motorized and non-motorized, the

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motorized share of that is $943,000.

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today. We do not have to award all of

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that today. It'll be available for next

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is an option. Uh, and so we have 12

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projects that we'll be reviewing today.

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received a list of those rankings based

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off of the scores provided by each of

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the council members. So, we'll touch

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into those here shortly. Um, just a

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quick review of the timeline here. So,

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uh the Utah Transportation Commission

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for um for getting on their list of

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approved projects. So, that's sort of

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the initial meeting to get on their

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approval list. And then on uh June 25th

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show you guys the tools you'll have at

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your disposal today. Um so for those of

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you following along online, I know this

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than we're used to here. So um let me

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this yet. I can shoot it over to you in

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a message. But um I highly encourage you

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to use this scoring sheet to follow

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council. So these projects are ranked by

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uh the highest score down to the lowest

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submission for the Moab Trail

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high priority project uh based off

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council member input. So, if this box is

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that I just showed you. Um, and then

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split it down the middle and that tends

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to cover most of the needs described

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requirement that 30% goes to motorized,

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and motorized collaborative effort or it

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think uh we have that flexibility and,

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participation with this council here, I think it makes total sense to, you

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the uh the specified kind of

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availability period. So we do have a a

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limitation as far as timelines when it

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if you want to just uh run through the

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scoring process and what you guys like

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to see today, that'd be that'd be

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helpful.

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>> Yeah, for sure. So, um scoring overview

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um and Wade, chime in if you've got an

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opinion, but basically, we've got these

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12 applications. We've um all hopefully

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taken the time to review them. um we can

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go through each of them as needed or if

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there is um somebody that proposes to

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approve a block of them at a time, we

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can do that as well as we've done in

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other meetings. Um so uh we what we'll

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probably do is we'll just go through um

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look at the list together and if there's

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an identifying of the highest ranked

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that you guys want to block together and

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approve we can go that route and then

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take a closer look at the ones that were

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more in question and discuss those. Um

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hopefully you guys have taken your notes

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uh have good ideas on what questions you

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have and then we can discuss those as

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needed. Do we we don't have anybody from

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We don't have any applicants on this

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meeting, do we?

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>> We do not.

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>> Okay.

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And then Evan, you have work been

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working with the applicants. Have you

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reviewed these applications with them

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and and have more information that's one

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on than what is on the actual

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applications that you could speak to or

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>> happy to do so, you know, on a project

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per project basis. But yeah, I have the

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same information you guys do. So

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everything you guys have seen, I've seen

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as well.

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>> Okay, that sounds good. Wade, do you

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have anything else on that?

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>> Um, I just bring you up to date. Uh, the

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Emery County one application 005649.

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Um, that one is connected with a part of

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a match with OVR grant that they applied

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for. And just to update the council on

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that, they actually um hired their two

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summer Hala uh yesterday. I sat in on

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those interviews. Um so that's moving

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along and this one's kind of in

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conjunction with that one. So keep that

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in mind.

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Okay.

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Thanks, Wade.

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All right. Um that being said, we'll we

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will open it up. Is there anybody from

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the public that wants to make public

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comment? We ask that uh if you do,

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please keep your comments limited to 3

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minutes each. Uh and but if so, we'll

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give the uh give the floor to anybody

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from the public that may be on that

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wants to uh make comment.

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Okay. Well, seeing none, we'll go on to

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the next item on our agenda, which is

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the scoring.

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>> So, Evan, do you want to go ahead and

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share the scoring sheet so we can all

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see it?

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>> Sure.

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Let's see here. Bear with me.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Do you have the ranked one up that you

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can share?

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>> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Bear with me here,

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guys. Sorry.

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I closed out all my windows to reduce

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the clutter and look where it got me.

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Let's see.

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Do you want me to show I got it. Sorry

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[laughter] about that.

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>> Okay.

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>> All right. She's ready.

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>> Awesome. Sounds good. Okay. Um

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so

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here's our rank list. Um

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top few projects, uh 82 and up, we've

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got the Moab Area collaborative trail

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maintenance. um southeast sea style

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project prep, heavy equipment trail work

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and improving motorized recreation

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opportunities

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in the Moab BLM

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area.

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So, we had a few looks like we had a few

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that were unsure on these, but most

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people said recommend them as a high

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funding priority. Is there any any

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discussion on these top three? Um, looks

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like Scott, you and Brody

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and uh, Sheriff Curtis had also had a no

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fund on these

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and Russ had a no fund on a couple of

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them as well. Any any other any

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questions or any discussion on any of

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these three?

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>> Maybe I'll just quickly add here that I

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was out of the country while we were

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ranking these. I have read them now. So,

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I have no issues with the first three

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that we're looking at.

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>> Okay.

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Thanks, Nicole.

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» And Jason, I'll just note I'm happy to

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pull up any any maps, photos, letters of

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support, all that fun stuff. So, just

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let me know.

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>> Oh, I actually do want to take back what

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I said. I think I trying to figure out

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if it's the same one. The BLM for Grand

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County one I do want to have a little

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bit of a discussion on.

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>> Okay.

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>> Yeah. Let me know when you're when

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that's an appropriate time.

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>> Yeah. Go ahead.

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>> Um so that one's the the one that I

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think it is. We know that I have a

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tendency to, you know, re review the

398
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wrong projects at the wrong time. But

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when I read the application for the BLM

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in Grand County, um there was some

401
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discussion in the application about

402
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improving

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the um an obstacle on Pritchette Canyon

404
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called Down and Dirty. And after talking

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to some of the folks in the Jeep

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community,

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um they feel like maybe it's just you

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need to kind of um block off access to

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the stream where people are bypassing

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the obstacle and not actually improve

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the obstacle. So I do have some concerns

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with this one. You know, people are

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calling it like a gatekeeper obstacle

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and it's not, you know, it's much easier

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than many of the other obstacles on

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this. So, the Jeep community has a

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little bit of concern over them

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improving that obstacle.

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So, I guess on that one, I would like to

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say if we're going to fund it, I feel

421
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like the BLM should work very closely

422
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with the Red Rock um four-wheel drive

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club down in Moab and the um what do

424
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they call that? The Grand County Trails

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Committee, motorized Trails Committee.

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And it sounds like there was some

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discussion on this and it wasn't.

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completely reflected in the application

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the way that they thought it had been

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discussed.

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» Go ahead, Scott.

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>> Uh when I was reading that application,

433
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they did talk about bypass roots and I

434
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was a little concerned. Uh let's say if

435
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you're out there and you're saying,

436
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"Hey, I'm going to go try this new

437
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trail." And you get halfway through it

438
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and you go, "I can't make it through

439
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this portion right here." There needs to

440
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be some balance in there if there are

441
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routes around it already that maybe they

442
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think about it before closing that extra

443
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route so maybe that somebody that can't

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make it through it has an opportunity to

445
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continue on on the trail. Uh I I realize

446
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that you know you get braiding of trails

447
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because the obstacles too hard, but

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there uh I went through the devil's

449
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racetrack here over the weekend and

450
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there were individuals in there that

451
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were struggling in places and they were

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there were places to go around the

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obstacle. And so I I think maybe perhaps

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you put that back on the people in

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charge in the area and say, "Hey, uh the

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people that are utilizing that trail."

457
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Uh but I I do have some concerns about

458
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just going and blocking off any uh uh

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route that maybe makes it easier to get

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around it.

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» Go ahead, Mike.

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Yeah, I would second that um thought

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from Nicole and Scott. Uh I know I was

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trying to look and see if this is I

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don't think this is the only one that

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they talked about uh

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making an actually taking the obstacle

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and chiseling the rock out to make it

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easier. And one of them, I can't

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remember if this is it or not, has a

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picture of the um of them fencing off

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the current bypass, what people are

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using as a bypass. And I think that they

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really need to I understand obstacles

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get harder over time, but if there's a

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bypass that you could solidify and and

477
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make to where it's sustainable and

478
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everything, then why not use it? Um, and

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then that still maintains the difficulty

480
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of the trail, but allows

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um maybe an obstacle that has got a

482
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little bigger and harder allows people

483
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that that experience. And so I would

484
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second that and I don't really mind

485
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having them fund it or funding it, but I

486
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do think that we probably ought to kind

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of

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advise that they instead of change the

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obstacle, they look at making a reroute

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for that obstacle or a bypass. I mean,

491
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>> yeah. And one of the things that was

492
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kind of talked about in the

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communications that I had was, you know,

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there's wench anchor points on many of

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the other obstacles in this um

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Bridgetette Canyon area, you know, and

497
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this one doesn't have any. So maybe

498
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that's the solution. But yeah, maybe

499
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making the obstacle easier isn't the

500
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right one, especially for one that's

501
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considered, you know, the hardest trail

502
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in Moab to make obstacles easier.

503
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Okay, thanks Nicole. Another thing on

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this application I noticed too, they had a site plan for a parking lot

505
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and it looked like most of the parking

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stalls in that lot were pullin and back

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out stalls which may not necessarily be

508
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conducive to the uh OV community. A lot of people use trailers. Um, and

509
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the pull in and back out option. It's

510
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not this one. It's it's one of the other

511
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ones.

512
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>> One second. Let's see.

513
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>> No, this one has a pull in and back out

514
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or a pull in and not really. This one

515
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might trailers, too.

516
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>> Yeah, I don't think this one's as bad. I

517
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mean, especially if it's all just a

518
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gravel area, people will just pull

519
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through. But the other one is

520
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they're trying to leave trees in place

521
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and

522
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yeah, it's just not uh not very

523
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conducive for pull through.

524
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>> Oh, here I think I see

525
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>> that one trail head. Yeah.

526
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>> So,

527
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anyways, that one didn't look as much

528
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like a motorized trail head.

529
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Scott, go ahead. Uh, one of the other

530
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concerns I have, um, we have like three

531
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or four grants in the same area to do

532
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trail work and, uh, you know, I I don't

533
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know how many grants we should have in a

534
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kind of the same area, but I I hope

535
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they're collaborating to some extent

536
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with each other to make sure whatever

537
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they're doing is it's done efficiently

538
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and that we get the most out of our

539
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,039
money and and maybe perhaps

540
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:28,400
uh we try to put some way that we

541
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,640
require some type of collaboration with

542
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,480
groups that are working in the same

543
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,280
area. Uh maybe not necessarily on the

544
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,159
same trail, but uh uh

545
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:41,840
I don't know. That's something to rattle

546
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,120
around in my head a little bit.

547
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:48,000
>> Thanks, Scott. Go ahead, Mike.

548
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,240
Yeah, I had the same thought and I think

549
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,480
I visited with Scott and Wade about this

550
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,200
a little bit that that I have concerns

551
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,679
that because

552
00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:04,960
um one trail maintenance crew might think,

553
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,440
"Oh, we need to wipe that obstacle out."

554
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,880
And the other one might go, "No, that's

555
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,200
what makes it fun." So, and if they're

556
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,840
working in the same area, then that is a

557
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,400
possibility that they either duplicate

558
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,600
work or or mess each other's work up,

559
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,120
you know. Um, I'm with Scott. I think

560
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,720
that

561
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,000
with everybody wanting a trail crew now,

562
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,880
uh, I have no problem. I love seeing

563
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,279
trail crews and and actual maintenance

564
00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,387
being done, but but I do think that

565
00:24:36,387 --> 00:24:38,000
[snorts] where there's multiple trail

566
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,640
crews in the same area,

567
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,760
um there needs to be one person that's

568
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,240
directing that rate, one person, one

569
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,279
group that's actually directing and

570
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:52,320
making the decisions on what what's

571
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,279
being done to the trails. um you know,

572
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,520
if it's on BLM, maybe the BLM needs to

573
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,679
go, "Yeah, we're okay with that project

574
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:03,679
and this type of project um for this

575
00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:06,559
section or or whatever." But but I do

576
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,279
think that that's something that we may

577
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:14,720
need to address in the future is that we

578
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,440
is that if there's overlapping, you

579
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,200
know, maybe if there's a trail crew in

580
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,799
the area, we um increase that trail crew

581
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:24,960
instead of creating a whole new one or

582
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,310
something like that, you know. So,

583
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,360
» okay. Thanks. Uh, Nicole,

584
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,200
>> I was just going to say I recognize the

585
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,679
same thing that Wheeler and Mike just

586
00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:40,080
said that, you know, we have a lot of

587
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,880
grants coming out of the same same area.

588
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,200
So, yeah, that's probably something that

589
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,559
we should look at and kind of consider.

590
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:49,840
So, I'm glad that we're talking about

591
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,039
it.

592
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:54,720
>> Yeah. Eric, you've got your hand up.

593
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,679
>> Yeah. So, I've been down in this area of

594
00:25:57,679 --> 00:26:03,760
the state quite a bit recently and uh

595
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,520
it

596
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840
I guess there is so much use that I

597
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,000
can't see

598
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,880
more maintenance really hurting it. And

599
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,120
from what I understand,

600
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,679
all of these entities have to work

601
00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:20,320
through the government agencies to do

602
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,279
the work. So the overall project should

603
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:24,960
be

604
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,159
overseen or at least known about and and

605
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:29,840
I definitely understand the Pritchette,

606
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,360
you know, I I saw that and went, well,

607
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,799
that's the that's the reason for

608
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,200
Pritchette is making it too hard. You

609
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,640
know, that's that's what people want in

610
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,120
there. But I can't think of any other

611
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,760
place on pretty much any other trail

612
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,520
that you'd want to go in and and an

613
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,679
additional work would would be a bad

614
00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:52,640
thing. And I actually love this because

615
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,520
all of these are for trail work and it

616
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,240
is so needed and signage and all that

617
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600
stuff. I have I've enjoyed this this uh

618
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,200
grant this FT you know the

619
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,039
this grant process RTP more than the

620
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:13,039
rest of our our OVR grants just because

621
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,960
it's actually work. And so I don't know.

622
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,320
I I'm not too worried about them doing

623
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,520
the right thing when they're getting

624
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,440
down there. I think it's great feedback,

625
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,760
Nickel on Pritchette, that we just say,

626
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,159
"Hey, some people like that hard. Is

627
00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:29,440
there something else we can do there?"

628
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,600
But actually trying to organize a a land

629
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080
manager or someone to go out and and

630
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,440
organize all these trail groups. I don't know if I agree, but that's just

631
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,039
my opinion. So,

632
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:44,080
>> Dave,

633
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,760
>> thanks Eric. Dave, you've got your hand

634
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,710
up.

635
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,720
» One's kind of Jeep focused, one's kind

636
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,960
of motorcycle focused, and the other

637
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,520
one's like trail focused. So, not as big

638
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,640
a concern to me.

639
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,710
>> Okay. Thank you.

640
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,720
» Go ahead, Nicole.

641
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,200
Wade, you probably know this, but don't

642
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520
they have um something similar to Emery

643
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,960
County down there where they have like a

644
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,120
trails committee where all the different

645
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,880
entities come together and kind of

646
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,880
discuss what's happening? And I mean,

647
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,679
would that be a a venue for just

648
00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:23,039
discussion on these to make sure

649
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,200
everybody's kind of talking?

650
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760
>> Well, and also keep in mind the council

651
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,760
is paying Katon down there to do this

652
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,120
stuff. the county has a coordinator then

653
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,120
and you know maybe we need to put a

654
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,279
little emphasis on Katon in doing this

655
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,039
too and keeping his eyes on that because

656
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:44,720
we are paying him out of an OVR grant

657
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,039
and you are right Nicole you have the

658
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:50,159
trail mix um the motor Moab trail

659
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:51,600
council you actually have a couple of

660
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000
them down there where these forums come

661
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,720
together and and a good pulse on it for

662
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,960
the motorized community is Cliff Cliff

663
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:04,159
Coons participates in all these too and and he can keep an eye on them for

664
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:08,389
us as well.

665
00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:10,960
» Yeah, certainly. And I I agree to kind

666
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,440
of David and Eric's consensus that

667
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,320
yeah, the uh right with respect is all

668
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,000
the single tracks, the other is the Jeep

669
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,600
and um Grand County is just trying to

670
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,880
fill in the gaps in between. So, but

671
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,120
yep.

672
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,360
Okay. Um any more discussions on these

673
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:38,710
top three?

674
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760
We I I guess uh

675
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,279
we just vote on them like we do the over

676
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:46,240
Evan.

677
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,600
>> Yep. Absolutely.

678
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,600
>> Okay.

679
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Go ahead, Nicole. Before we vote, I

680
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,039
mean, one thing that's kind of coming to

681
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,039
my mind is

682
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,039
especially with that one where at um

683
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,840
Peret Canyon and down and dirty. I mean,

684
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,840
I don't know really what the cost

685
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,080
difference is, but I mean, is that one

686
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,600
where maybe if they're reconsidering

687
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,919
what's happening on down and dirty, they

688
00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:13,600
might need less funding. So, maybe

689
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640
that's like is now a time to talk about

690
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,399
do we kind of reduce the amount of

691
00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,159
funding? Do we give them the full amount

692
00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:23,360
of funding? Like what's the Yeah, I'm

693
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,815
not sure the procedure there.

694
00:30:26,815 --> 00:30:30,710
[clears throat]

695
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,399
» You can certainly recommend a different

696
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:36,240
funding amount. Um, and if if that's

697
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720
something that you would want to propose

698
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,279
and somebody wants to second it and we

699
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:44,880
can look at that if if that's a route

700
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,320
you want to go. Um,

701
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,039
and then I guess Evan, you would just be

702
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,679
giving them that condition on the

703
00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:54,080
approval.

704
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,159
>> Yeah, exactly. So, just let me know. I

705
00:30:56,159 --> 00:30:57,520
can pull up any of these budgets and we

706
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,960
can take a closer look and you can

707
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,120
specifically fund, you know, elements

708
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,720
within their budget and then you can

709
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,799
specifically not or specifically exclude

710
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:09,830
any elements you don't want to see.

711
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,679
» Let me run through their budget really

712
00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:13,919
quick. Maybe we can work voting on the

713
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:15,760
top two while I'm looking at the budget

714
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,669
on that third one.

715
00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:21,120
» Yeah, it's gonna be hard to divide that

716
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,200
one out because they don't necessarily

717
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,240
have a specific area. They just have all

718
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,679
of their materials and all of their

719
00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:30,080
labor labor grouped together.

720
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,799
>> Right.

721
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:34,399
>> So, I'll read this out if if that's

722
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:36,640
helpful in case people can't see it. Um

723
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,840
$40,000 going to signage, 10,000 to

724
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080
wooden fencing for delineation, about

725
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,840
5,000 for various tools, 15,000 for uh

726
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,600
additional delineation materials like

727
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080
post and cables, uh trail marking

728
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,760
materials, metal kiosks. Um and then let

729
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,279
me just kind of fast forward here. These

730
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,600
big ticket items at the bottom would be

731
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,399
$30,000 for metal kiosks, and then

732
00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:03,360
$40,000 for trail work, planning, and on

733
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:10,149
the ground labor.

734
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,272
Yeah, that's going to be hard to to pull

735
00:32:12,272 --> 00:32:14,240
[clears throat] out, you know, specific

736
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,480
amounts because I mean there's so many

737
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,880
other parts of that project and I do

738
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,399
think it is good and other parts need I

739
00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:29,430
just worry about the down and dirty part

740
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,399
and maybe it is funding it with the you

741
00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:37,120
know with the um caveat that they need

742
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,559
to work with that Grand County Motorized

743
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,240
Trails Committee and the Red Rock

744
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Four-Wheel Drive Club on PR or yeah,

745
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,399
Pritchette down and dirty and make sure

746
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:52,880
that they're not making it too easy. I

747
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,399
mean, one of the things that I've had

748
00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:56,799
come back to our office and on other

749
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,240
trail work items, and you know, I can

750
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,080
agree and disagree with folks, but you

751
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,360
know, they've told me that trail work

752
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760
has made a trail so easy that it's not

753
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,360
even fun anymore. So, that's something

754
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,600
I've been trying to watch out for is,

755
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,240
you know, level of trail difficulty and

756
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,710
trying to match the work to it.

757
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,399
Evan, can that be put into the contract

758
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:24,000
um that the recipient work with Red Rock

759
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,120
and the Moab Trail to make sure that the

760
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,919
work being done there meets the needs of

761
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:32,640
the user community? Can that be language

762
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,960
we add to give Nicole a little comfort

763
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,080
on that?

764
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,679
>> You know, we have our our contracts

765
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:39,679
guru, Meen, here. I don't know if Meen,

766
00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:41,440
you're able to weigh in on that. Um, but

767
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,200
I will note just from a, you know, from

768
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,519
my awareness of the applicant, they work

769
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,519
very closely together. Um, the Grand

770
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:49,279
County BLM and then the county

771
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,919
themselves coordinated on all of these

772
00:33:51,919 --> 00:33:54,159
efforts that are actually the top three

773
00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:57,519
ranked projects. Um, but so and then our

774
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:59,039
trail our trail crew is also pretty

775
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:00,720
engaged with that. But, uh, Marine, I

776
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,000
don't know if you're able to to weigh in

777
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,919
on on contract language.

778
00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,840
>> Yeah, we we can put it contingent upon.

779
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,159
So any any requirements you guys put

780
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,560
towards a project, I include in the

781
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,800
contract. Um so yes, it would be in

782
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,599
there.

783
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,000
>> And and you're okay in putting in there

784
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,919
a a group or a local user group.

785
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:21,119
>> Yeah. But they would need to collaborate

786
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:22,240
with them.

787
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:23,520
>> Okay.

788
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,960
>> That that would be great because I did

789
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,200
call the Red Rock Four-Wheel Drive Club

790
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,159
and they the way that I read I read them

791
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,919
the application how it was worded in

792
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,000
there and they're like that's not how we

793
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
discussed it. So, I think there's some

794
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,679
miscommunication there. So, I would love

795
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,960
for them to talk again.

796
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,560
>> Okay. Thanks, Nicole. Eric, you've got

797
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,079
your hand up.

798
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,720
>> Yeah. Just just real quick, I I love

799
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:49,440
this conversation. I love how engaged we

800
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,599
all are. There there's an example, a

801
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,720
specific example that uh was kind of

802
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:56,800
surprising to me, but at the same time,

803
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,560
I was pleased to see it. So, there's an

804
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,560
obstacle called a white knuckle on the

805
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,640
be behind the rocks trail down there,

806
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,960
and it's always been, it's a big wall

807
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,280
you drop off. It's always been pretty

808
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,880
scary in a two-seater, in a Jeep. I

809
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,320
mean, all of it. It just depends how

810
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,079
many rocks are at the bottom. I think a

811
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,520
lot of us are familiar with it. But, um,

812
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,200
there was some trail work that went on

813
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,240
and made a slightly easier route off the

814
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:28,000
side. And the hard part is still open.

815
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,839
It's still available. People are still

816
00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:33,280
dropping off it, but it also allows the

817
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,119
people that

818
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,320
um don't want to hook up a rope to them

819
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,200
or just, you know, it's [snorts] it's

820
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,040
pretty intense. These trails down there

821
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,000
are pretty intense. And so that I

822
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200
thought was a perfect blend of trail

823
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480
work, making it safer, and then still

824
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,480
retaining the hard part. And so

825
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,400
again, you know, I I like that we can

826
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960
maybe throw in some some verbiage into

827
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,880
the contract. I think that's important,

828
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,640
but at the same time, I think there's

829
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,640
balance to all of it. And so, yeah, I

830
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,839
love it. But

831
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:12,320
>> well, if I just briefly note, sorry, cut

832
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,160
you off, Eric.

833
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,920
>> I was just going to note, uh, within the

834
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,440
budget, no, I'll just show you guys real

835
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,440
quick. um within this Grand County

836
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,720
budget or sorry within this BLM budget

837
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,480
um they did list a couple volunteer

838
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,599
groups that would be helping out with

839
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,200
the ININD supports just to give an idea

840
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,400
of some of the the groups they're

841
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,119
working with here. Um Ride with Respect

842
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,920
four-wheel uh kind of division has been

843
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,079
listed as an inind partner. Tread

844
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,040
Lightly and Grand County's uh motorized

845
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,200
uh team has all been listed as uh as

846
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680
volunteer groups providing an estimated

847
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
$12,000 worth of of collaboration here.

848
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,109
So just just listing that as well.

849
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:53,040
» I think that's Red Rock four-wheel

850
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,160
drive, not regles or

851
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,470
>> Oh, thank you. Thank you.

852
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,960
» Okay.

853
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,040
>> Yeah. So with the I guess with the

854
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,440
caveat of adding that language to the

855
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,599
contract.

856
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,630
Um

857
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,440
yeah, sounds like

858
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,800
>> I don't know how to raise my hand, but

859
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,119
I've got a question.

860
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,599
Yeah, go ahead, Brett.

861
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:19,920
>> Um, in addition to Red Rock

862
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,880
four-wheelers, um, Moab Friends for

863
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,640
Wheeling

864
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,359
should be included in the discussion of

865
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:32,079
uh, on on down and dirty,

866
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,440
unlike uh, White Uncle Hill, Down and

867
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,200
Dirty doesn't really have place for a

868
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,000
bypass,

869
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000
right? So,

870
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,359
it's it's freaking gnarly, but

871
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:46,640
I don't I don't know what you're going

872
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,480
to do for a bypasser, you know. So, I

873
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,000
just I want to make sure that both those

874
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,400
groups are included in it because Jeff

875
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,400
Stevens with uh Moab Friends for

876
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Wheeling uh does a lot of the trail work

877
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200
in coordination with the BLM down there.

878
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,599
They have a different approach than Red

879
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,200
Rock.

880
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,079
They're more about having, you know, the

881
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,640
actual users, not just cheap Safari

882
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,320
users.

883
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:17,349
So, they both are great groups, but they each have a different approach.

884
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:18,240
» That's all.

885
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:19,200
>> Okay. Thanks, Brad.

886
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,800
>> I like that. Maybe I would make that

887
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,359
motion that we approve the top three

888
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:26,320
with um the third one having some

889
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
language added to the contract that says

890
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,440
that BLM should work with Red Rocks. And

891
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,800
Brett, what did what did you call that

892
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,119
other group?

893
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:38,880
>> Moab friends for Wheelers.

894
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,400
>> Okay. And add Moab Friends for Wheelers

895
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,320
and have the BLM coordinate with both of

896
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,560
them to make sure that we're not, you

897
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,240
know, making an obstacle much easier

898
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:53,520
than it needs to be for the trail.

899
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,400
>> Okay. Um, and, uh, Jeff wrote a note of

900
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,880
support in one of these grants. I don't

901
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,119
remember which one it was, but uh you

902
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,960
can get all his information from that

903
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,599
letter

904
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,560
>> or I can forward it.

905
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,880
>> Okay, we've got a motion to approve the

906
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,560
top three with those conditions as

907
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,839
listed by Nicole. Do we have a second?

908
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:20,960
>> This is Brody. I second that.

909
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,040
>> Okay, Brody seconds. Let's do a roll

910
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,119
call vote on this. Um

911
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,040
>> Hey, Jason. Is that the first two or the

912
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,200
first three? first three.

913
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,160
>> Okay.

914
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,280
>> Uh, let's go. Hold on. Let me pull up my

915
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,720
list again. Let's go. Brett,

916
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:41,920
>> yes.

917
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,520
>> Broie,

918
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,720
>> yes.

919
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:49,510
>> Cheryl,

920
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,280
» I don't vote. Thank you.

921
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,000
>> Okay, that's right. And Dave, you don't

922
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,839
vote either.

923
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:59,119
>> Correct. Recommended non- voting. Okay.

924
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:00,800
Eric,

925
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,400
>> yes.

926
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Mike,

927
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,359
>> yes.

928
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:07,040
>> Nicole,

929
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,000
>> yes.

930
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,480
>> Russ,

931
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,520
>> yes.

932
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,640
>> Scott,

933
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,240
>> yes.

934
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,960
>> I will vote yes as well.

935
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,720
>> Thanks for voting for me, Scott. I want

936
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:19,920
the yes.

937
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,040
>> I'm sorry.

938
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,320
>> It's all good.

939
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,440
Okay. And those first three are

940
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,880
four.

941
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,599
>> Yeah.

942
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:32,800
>> Go ahead, Evan.

943
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,160
>> No, I was just going to note that says

944
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,640
$32,000 worth of projects awarded. Um,

945
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,200
and so all three of those are in Grand

946
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,280
County and all three of those are trail

947
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,000
maintenance projects. So,

948
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,640
>> okay,

949
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,599
>> that leaves us with a balance of uh

950
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,520
641,000.

951
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,839
>> Okay, sounds good. Thank you. Uh, next

952
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:58,160
one on this list is the Utah Avalanche

953
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,319
Center motorized backcountry safety

954
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:03,119
infrastructure project. U, looks like

955
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:04,960
several people on this one recommended

956
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,119
not to uh, fund it as a high priority.

957
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:13,119
Um, any any discussion? Please raise

958
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,680
your hand and we'll get to you as we get

959
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,560
to you.

960
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Go ahead, Mike.

961
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,319
Um,

962
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:28,240
this one I have uh I don't know. Um,

963
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,920
I mean, I'm the new guy on the block

964
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,520
here, but but I've been, you know, just

965
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,760
seems like we're funing funneling a ton

966
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,400
of money into this. And I know it's a

967
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,520
good thing and safety and stuff, but it just seems like the project

968
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,880
that'll never end and keeps asking and they have, you know, they

969
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,319
have um this one and then they have a

970
00:41:52,319 --> 00:41:54,319
nonprofit that we give money. you I mean

971
00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:55,839
we gave pretty good chunk out of the

972
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:58,319
over and and pretty good chunk out of

973
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:01,680
this and um and I'm not necessarily

974
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:08,079
saying that we shouldn't fund it but um but I

975
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,560
mean if you took that 87,000

976
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,720
or 85,000

977
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,400
you could probably almost buy a beacon

978
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,280
for almost every snowmoiler in the state

979
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,680
you know um so I mean that might you

980
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,079
know if you gave what we've given them

981
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:25,920
this year, you probably could buy a

982
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,079
beacon for everybody in the state pretty

983
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:32,160
much, you know. And and I think I think

984
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,240
at some point we might want to start

985
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,440
looking at at maybe a more practical way

986
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,599
of I mean if they took that money and

987
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,200
actually put on courses with beacons

988
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,280
that gave people beacons and taught them

989
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,240
at a reduced price, we'd probably save a

990
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,880
lot more lives than than the you know it

991
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,640
would probably be in my opinion it would

992
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:04,240
probably be more effective than um than

993
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,280
just putting all this money into just

994
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,760
forecasting, you know. Um I just uh I

995
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,640
just think that we probably ought to in

996
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,240
the you know just maybe kind of start

997
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,800
looking at or maybe at the avalanche

998
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,880
place maybe ought to start looking at

999
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,200
different ways. And then I I don't know.

1000
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,720
I have real heartache with the

1001
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:33,200
ambassador program part of it. I I just

1002
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,520
don't think that that's a good use of

1003
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,760
money to have somebody sitting at a

1004
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,440
trail head. Um I just think it's

1005
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,079
uh I just don't think that's a good use

1006
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,880
of money. So, if we do end up funding

1007
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,880
it, um, which I'm okay with, I would I

1008
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,240
would ask to cut that part of it out

1009
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,119
that the amber ambassador program

1010
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:02,880
staffing and the ambassador program

1011
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,480
materials

1012
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,359
that that much of it and I think there's

1013
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:15,920
better uses for for our money than those two parts of this grant.

1014
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,839
Okay, thanks Mike. Any other discussion

1015
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:20,800
on that one? Nicole,

1016
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,760
>> after listening to what Mike said, maybe

1017
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,319
we should move on and like decide if we

1018
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:27,760
want to fund the rest and then come back

1019
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,240
to that one and if there is additional

1020
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,319
funding, maybe we can add to that one.

1021
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:34,640
But maybe kind of look at the other ones

1022
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,800
because I I hear what Mike's saying

1023
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,760
fully.

1024
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,240
>> Okay,

1025
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,079
that's fine. Any other questions or

1026
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:45,599
discussion on that one before we move

1027
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,040
on?

1028
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,400
>> Nicole, that's a good idea.

1029
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,960
>> Okay, let's come back to that one then.

1030
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,200
Um, next application is the Emory County

1031
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,079
signing crew equipment application 5649.

1032
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,079
Um,

1033
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:03,599
let's see. They're trying to get a side

1034
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:06,160
by side and a trailer to support their

1035
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,359
trail crew

1036
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:11,760
for Emery County.

1037
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,359
Uh Nicole, you had you've got comments.

1038
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:18,640
>> Yeah, I guess I'm full of words today.

1039
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,359
Um I'll just say I support this one. I

1040
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:23,359
think the last time it was signed I was

1041
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:25,680
a seasonal at the Forest Service and I

1042
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,040
don't want to tell you how long I've

1043
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,079
been at with the state. So it it's been

1044
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:34,710
a while. I kind of support this.

1045
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,119
» Okay. Thank you. Anybody else have any

1046
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:43,589
comments on this one?

1047
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,440
Okay, seeing none, let's go ahead and

1048
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,760
vote on this one. Um, we'll do roll

1049
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,520
call.

1050
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,640
Uh, let's do Brett.

1051
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,160
>> Yes.

1052
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,359
>> Brody,

1053
00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:56,960
>> yes.

1054
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,079
>> Eric,

1055
00:45:58,079 --> 00:45:59,760
>> yes.

1056
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,480
>> Uh, let's see. Mike,

1057
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,520
>> yes.

1058
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,960
>> Nicole,

1059
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,000
>> yes.

1060
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,520
>> Russ,

1061
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,160
>> yes. Scott.

1062
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,599
>> Yes. Yes.

1063
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:17,109
>> And I'll vote yes as well.

1064
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:20,640
» Okay. Uh, next application is the US

1065
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,040
Forest Service European Trail OV.

1066
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Um,

1067
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,560
this is a San Pete Ranger District. It

1068
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,720
looks like they are looking to replace

1069
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,400
their

1070
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:44,870
side by side. Is that right?

1071
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,680
Thanks, Evan, for pulling that up.

1072
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,280
>> I thought it was an ATV they're

1073
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,920
replacing, but maybe I'm wrong.

1074
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,520
>> 50inch OV.

1075
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,200
>> I think it's a 50 inch side by side.

1076
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,280
>> Hey, Evan, who was the letter of support

1077
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,280
from? Can you pull those up?

1078
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,440
>> Of course. Let's see here.

1079
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,960
So, one from Snow

1080
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,160
>> Oh, sorry.

1081
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,839
>> No, I was say one from Snow College, one

1082
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:11,599
from San Peak County, and then one from

1083
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:15,040
the Rome West nonprofit

1084
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,160
>> and wasn't there a request from San Peak

1085
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,640
County for some sort of like trail dozer

1086
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,800
to do trail work that their county roads

1087
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,319
folks would be doing? Is that a

1088
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:25,520
different one than this?

1089
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,119
>> Yeah,

1090
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:28,400
>> okay.

1091
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,359
>> Um, I can if you guys would like my

1092
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:33,680
input. If not, Jason, tell me to shut

1093
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,240
up. But I worked with that ATV they're

1094
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:38,319
going to replace. This is money well

1095
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:42,720
spent. They uh trust me, I I know I know

1096
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,119
the machine they're replacing. I worked

1097
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:48,870
on it.

1098
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,640
» Okay. Any other discussion on this one?

1099
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,720
>> Wait, it probably was there when I was a

1100
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:57,119
seasonal, too.

1101
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,160
>> It probably was.

1102
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,240
Hey, this may be a longer question than

1103
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:04,880
we want to take on at the time, but why

1104
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,640
don't they just address that in their

1105
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,119
application?

1106
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,359
I mean, they never tell you how many

1107
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:13,119
pieces of equipment they have, what

1108
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,359
condition they're in, how much use

1109
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:18,408
they're going through. They just

1110
00:48:18,408 --> 00:48:19,680
[clears throat] put in a request for

1111
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,839
another one. It's like, well, it' be

1112
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:22,880
nice to know where you're at on

1113
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,470
everything else.

1114
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,119
You you make a good point and and that's

1115
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:30,720
something I think that the council

1116
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,119
should consider too when um especially

1117
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,040
if you have competing ones and limited

1118
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,839
money who who articulates that need the

1119
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:39,920
best. You you're I think you hit it

1120
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,440
right on Russ.

1121
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,280
>> Yeah. They don't really give you enough

1122
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,280
for me to like weigh it out in my mind

1123
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,680
as far as prioritization for

1124
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,309
awards, but

1125
00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:55,760
I don't know how we work with them to

1126
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,400
get things better written, more

1127
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,480
information in there. Um,

1128
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,839
>> they're telling me all these highlights

1129
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:03,920
about the trail, which, you know, I I'm

1130
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,079
familiar with or whatever. Like, just

1131
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:07,680
tell me when you're talking about a

1132
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,480
piece of equipment, tell me the ins and

1133
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,839
outs of what's around it and what's

1134
00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:14,480
going on and what you need. Russ, that's

1135
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,839
uh that's valuable feedback and

1136
00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:17,680
something that uh we may take you up on

1137
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,760
if you guys have some specific uh we

1138
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,359
will be sending out a survey after this

1139
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:22,880
scoring meeting and it you know we're

1140
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,240
always looking for feedback to give the

1141
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:25,440
applicants and that's like gold for

1142
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,359
them. So like if we can if you guys have

1143
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:29,119
some commentary on these projects that

1144
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:30,240
we can share with the with the

1145
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:32,160
applicants in the future and we do have

1146
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,000
some trainings coming up. Um you know

1147
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,520
that's like I said I think that'd be

1148
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,640
really really valuable for the

1149
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,160
applicants and would hopefully increase

1150
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,680
the the product that you guys are seeing

1151
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,319
a better high quality product.

1152
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:44,319
>> Yeah. felt like as I read through them

1153
00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:46,319
like a lot of the equipment ones they're

1154
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:48,480
giving you a lot of trail commentary

1155
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,119
>> which is basically irrelevant. It's like

1156
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,559
give me the details on the equipment.

1157
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,670
So

1158
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,280
» yeah, just going to say on your grants

1159
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,119
tour that could be something that is

1160
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,359
shared as well.

1161
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:04,160
>> Absolutely.

1162
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,920
>> Especially as we're getting more and

1163
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,240
more applicants, more and more asks each

1164
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,839
cycle. um understanding that this will

1165
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:16,309
give you an edge up.

1166
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:19,599
Okay. Any other discussion on the for

1167
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:21,040
service application for

1168
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,000
>> I do have I do have one thing. Um Evan,

1169
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,480
can you pull up the uh bid on the side

1170
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,400
by side?

1171
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,589
>> Yes. Let's take a look at it.

1172
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,599
» You want to see the actual

1173
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,440
>> bid document? I'm not sure if I saw it.

1174
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,910
Um Um,

1175
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:48,870
maybe this is it. No,

1176
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,720
I'm not sure if we have an actual bid

1177
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,520
document. Um, I have the budget and that

1178
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,920
was the for the 18,000. So, I've noticed

1179
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,319
this on a couple of them that either

1180
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:00,559
their bid looks like it came off the

1181
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:02,319
internet off of like the manufacturer's

1182
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:05,599
website, not from a local dealer,

1183
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:08,800
>> or it was just kind of plain. Is that a

1184
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,480
common thing or am I missing something

1185
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,280
somewhere?

1186
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,480
So within the application itself um we

1187
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,800
do not have a specific requirement for

1188
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,800
that documentation but I can say that

1189
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,760
you know when it comes time for

1190
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,280
reimbursement they would absolutely have

1191
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,280
to provide us with that you know the

1192
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,960
invoice and the and the proof of payment

1193
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,720
and all that same same process that they

1194
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:29,920
would go through with with state

1195
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,160
funding. Um but you know if that's you

1196
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,280
know that's the kind of feedback we're

1197
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,319
looking for here like if that's

1198
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:35,440
something you guys want to see included

1199
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,280
in application. Seems like like on our

1200
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,880
other grants, they're always putting in

1201
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,839
bids from an actual dealer and not just

1202
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:47,280
off the website of the manufactur the national website where you just go

1203
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,520
in and, you know, build your machine on

1204
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,119
the website, but that's not really the

1205
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,760
actual cost. And so, unless I'm missing

1206
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,520
something, I I I just haven't been able

1207
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,559
to find actual bids from actual dealers,

1208
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,839
which kind of is odd to me on this on

1209
00:52:01,839 --> 00:52:03,760
>> That's great feedback.

1210
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,280
Thanks. No, that's good feedback. if if

1211
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,400
that's something this this council

1212
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,079
thinks would be beneficial, we're more

1213
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:09,920
than happy to add a question to include

1214
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,599
specific bids or, you know, to actually

1215
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:13,599
have a bid document included as an

1216
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,160
attachment.

1217
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,599
>> Thanks, Brody. Cheryl, you've got your

1218
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:18,720
hand up.

1219
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,000
>> Yeah, I was just going to say we

1220
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,920
actually uh federal employees, we

1221
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,160
actually can't provide a bid because

1222
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,319
until we go out and put a contract

1223
00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:29,280
package out and go out for bid, that

1224
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,760
kind of is all we can get. like we're

1225
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,280
not allowed to go outside of that

1226
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,839
contracting process and go get bids from

1227
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:38,319
like local vendors. However, once that

1228
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:40,559
contract package gets put out, that bid

1229
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:43,680
goes out and any vendors locally, they

1230
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,800
can, you know, obviously put in for

1231
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,440
that. And we also don't really ever know

1232
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,960
the total amount because again, it's all

1233
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,880
based off of the contract. So, just a

1234
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,880
little bit of FYI for the federal

1235
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,040
partners. Like that's probably the best

1236
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,040
they're going to be able to give because

1237
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,559
it's got to work through contracting.

1238
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:04,000
>> All right. That that's that's good to

1239
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,079
know that just this emery um this is a

1240
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,079
county government one and

1241
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:10,960
>> this one's

1242
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,800
>> I thought this was a Forest Service one,

1243
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,800
but just just so you know, people may

1244
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,559
have limitations like that where it's

1245
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:18,400
like, hey, this at least shows you we're

1246
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,920
in the ballpark of what this is going to

1247
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,920
cost. Sometimes the contracts come in

1248
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,520
less and sometimes they come over a

1249
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,079
little bit more. Um, just depending. So,

1250
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:29,750
just a little FYI.

1251
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,559
» Thanks, Jerome.

1252
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:35,200
>> Okay. Any more discussion on the US

1253
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,349
Forest Service European Trail OB?

1254
00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:45,750
All right. Let's go ahead and vote.

1255
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,400
Let's go with Brody.

1256
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,319
>> Yes.

1257
00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:52,160
Um, Eric,

1258
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,920
>> yes.

1259
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,960
>> Mike,

1260
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,240
>> yes.

1261
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:57,680
>> Nicole,

1262
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,040
>> yes.

1263
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,480
>> Russ,

1264
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,599
>> yes.

1265
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:03,440
>> Scott,

1266
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,559
>> yes.

1267
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:06,480
>> Brett,

1268
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,760
>> yes.

1269
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,630
>> And I'll vote yes as well on that one.

1270
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,920
» Okay. Uh, next one down the list is the

1271
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,280
Puffer Lake uh, Legacy Trail Head

1272
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,760
Project. This is in Beaver County. Uh,

1273
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,359
Beaver County is the applicant on this

1274
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:27,119
one. I'm looking for funds specifically

1275
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:31,040
for the trail head at Puffer Lake. Um, I

1276
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,480
remember looking at this project.

1277
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,480
They've got a very large budget because

1278
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,079
they're including all of the aspects of

1279
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,400
the uh improvements at Puffer Lake,

1280
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,720
including like a UD do shed and and

1281
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:45,280
other things there. But, um, it looked

1282
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,760
like this one was specifically for the

1283
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,599
trail head. That's what they're seeking

1284
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:56,400
the RTP funds for on this one. Um, any discussion? I'll open it up now. uh

1285
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,000
if you have any questions or comments

1286
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,800
about it.

1287
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,400
>> Yeah. A few years ago when we approved

1288
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,559
the purchase of this land, this was one

1289
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,000
of the requirements that we asked them

1290
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,440
to put into a grant in the future, some

1291
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,079
kind of trail head for winter access or

1292
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,960
parking for riding your vehicle on the

1293
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,359
mountain. So, they're just following up

1294
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:22,079
on what they agreed to in the past.

1295
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,640
>> Okay. Thanks, Dave. Any other comments

1296
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,440
or discussion? Cheryl, go ahead.

1297
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,119
>> Yeah, I reviewed this one and I'll be

1298
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,040
honest, it felt really confusing because

1299
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,520
they did expand the scope so wide

1300
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,760
because I was like I I don't understand

1301
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,319
necessarily, you know, what is part of

1302
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:41,920
the RTP project and what isn't. Um, so

1303
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,680
there's that. And then I I think the

1304
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,280
other part about this that makes me a

1305
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,440
little bit concerned that it's strictly

1306
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,680
on the motorized side is that they said

1307
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,960
in the future they're going to add a

1308
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,240
non-motorized trail that's going to

1309
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,240
leave from this motorized trail head as

1310
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:56,240
well. Um, which feels kind of

1311
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,240
interesting to me. Maybe it could be

1312
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,240
more of a split, but um, it just it's

1313
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:03,440
one of those things that looks like

1314
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,040
they're planning a non-motorized trail

1315
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,680
to leave out of there in the future.

1316
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,079
>> Yeah, I had the same thoughts, too. I It

1317
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,720
looked like there was certainly a a

1318
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,760
non-motorized aspect to it and also

1319
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,160
looked like access to the lake for

1320
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,920
English,

1321
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,599
>> which I'm guessing that parking lot's

1322
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:23,119
going to get a lot of that being that

1323
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,680
close to the lake. So, it to me it's

1324
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,200
just one of those confusing like how do

1325
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,079
we really make sure it provides OP trail

1326
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,160
head parking and how do you actually

1327
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,000
understand what's part of this grant

1328
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,480
because there's so many factors. Yeah.

1329
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,240
Uh sheds and all sorts of things that

1330
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,480
I'm like I I wish they would just keep

1331
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,040
it to whatever is in this grant both

1332
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,640
what the ask is and what the match is

1333
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,680
because otherwise it's very confusing.

1334
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,359
>> Yeah. Scott, you have your hand up. You

1335
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:53,200
know, initially I called them because

1336
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,920
the grant talked about a crusher that I

1337
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,480
think the RTP grant was directed at a

1338
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,160
crusher. They wanted to purchase a

1339
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,160
crutcher. And when I was talking to the the guy there, he finally went back

1340
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,680
and says, "Oh, they have changed their

1341
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,960
mind on." And I says, "Well, that's

1342
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,400
probably a good thing of changing their

1343
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,400
mind because I'm I'm not sure they want

1344
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480
to buy a Crusher because it would maybe

1345
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,720
limit them what they could do with it.

1346
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,799
But I do have some issues of what's

1347
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:21,280
going on in here. And it is kind of

1348
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,160
confusing uh because they're they've

1349
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,319
pulled money from different different

1350
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:29,040
areas and it's hard for us to see where

1351
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,520
all that money is coming from if if it's

1352
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,920
OB money or if it's some other grant

1353
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,559
money and and that's true across some of

1354
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:38,880
these other grants that we're not maybe

1355
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,960
necessarily privy to or maybe it would

1356
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,440
take us time to dig into it to figure

1357
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,079
out what match and where they pulling it

1358
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,440
from and what ideas they have. But it

1359
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,040
appeared to me that this grant was

1360
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,520
directly for the crusher. So if they've

1361
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,160
changed that, what have they changed it

1362
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,520
to? Are they just going to buy the

1363
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,040
aggregate? Are they going to rent the

1364
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,599
crusher? Uh I don't know.

1365
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:07,440
>> Okay. Thanks, Scott. Uh Marine,

1366
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,880
>> yeah, do has quite a few contracts for

1367
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,839
um with Beaver County for this property

1368
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:16,960
and um we're currently trying to get

1369
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,200
them to complete a master plan so that

1370
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,520
we're not peacemealing items. Um, so I

1371
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,480
would, yeah, I would recommend, yeah,

1372
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,920
talking this through and, um, I just

1373
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,359
wanted to give you guys that background

1374
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:33,119
that we're still kind of waiting so that

1375
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:34,640
they're not asking for lots of things

1376
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,400
that in the end might have to be changed

1377
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,640
out.

1378
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,079
Okay,

1379
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:41,760
>> Brody,

1380
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,720
>> in just listening to some of the people

1381
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,119
in Beaver County without telling them

1382
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:49,680
about this, uh, they get the impression

1383
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,359
that Beaver County is just throwing

1384
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:52,880
things against the wall and seeing

1385
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,880
what's sticking. Um, and so I just

1386
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,000
listened and they just talked. And, uh,

1387
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,319
there's a lot of concern about this. uh

1388
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:05,599
they know that it's going to have to

1389
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:10,400
happen at some point, but they're they're just kind of confused

1390
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,240
about how it was put together, the whole

1391
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,799
entire everything from the very very

1392
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:17,280
beginning of the Puffer Lake purchase to

1393
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,559
now. So, I don't know. I wonder if we

1394
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,520
can maybe even hold off on this one till

1395
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,240
they get their other stuff in order like

1396
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,880
what Meen was saying. So, something to

1397
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,000
think about.

1398
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,440
>> Okay. Thanks, Brody. And one of the

1399
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,280
things that I noticed as well is that

1400
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,880
they did not have any OV groups listed

1401
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,359
as their partners or in their

1402
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:42,000
>> that's that was one of the other

1403
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,440
frustrating things with the uh the club

1404
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,839
there is they were caught blindsided

1405
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:51,920
several times by this. They're not sure

1406
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,559
if they've angered the county commission

1407
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:57,040
or what, but they they they just feel

1408
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,680
blindsided by this all of this.

1409
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,359
Brodia. Um I've heard that same from the

1410
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:08,559
local OB users as well. You know,

1411
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:12,240
they're coming to us for um for money,

1412
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,160
for OV money, and they just have not

1413
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,960
included the local OV group in this like

1414
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,000
I feel they should. Um and and they have

1415
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,799
a very solid group there that's very

1416
01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:27,760
actively engaged with the Forest Service

1417
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,359
and other public land users there.

1418
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:33,680
>> Well, and and they they they even so far

1419
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:40,160
as have their own trail equipment that club actually owns uh and and they

1420
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,880
use with the Forest Service permission

1421
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,880
to to go out and do stuff. And so

1422
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,160
they've been they they do feel a little

1423
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,680
let down by the county to some extent.

1424
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,280
Um

1425
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,640
and and so yeah, I yeah and and they and

1426
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,240
they would be the ones probably doing a

1427
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,319
lot of the uh that come the county's

1428
01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:02,559
going to come to them asking for uh

1429
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:04,880
manpower and things like that. And so

1430
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,240
they're just little little bit

1431
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,000
frustrated. I'd recommend that we hold

1432
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,319
off on this one. give them some time to

1433
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:12,559
get their ducks in a row and and relook

1434
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:16,079
at it the next time around.

1435
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:18,079
>> Okay. Thanks, Brody. Scott, you've got

1436
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:19,119
your hand up.

1437
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,760
>> Yes, I do. I find it interesting a year

1438
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,400
and a half ago when we funded the that

1439
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,599
$800,000 for Puppet Lake Prep Lake. The

1440
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,680
one question I had is who owns the land

1441
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,880
underneath the water and that is still

1442
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,839
not known. They haven't figured that out

1443
01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:41,430
yet, which I find it kind of intriguing.

1444
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,040
Thanks, Scott. Cheryl, you've got your

1445
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,640
hand up.

1446
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,160
>> Yeah, I was just gonna say I agree with

1447
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,000
Brody because again, I think my hardest

1448
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,599
part is there's so many things going on

1449
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:52,079
here, I can't even tell what the actual

1450
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,920
RT project ask is and what the match is.

1451
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,880
So I I would love it to be actually

1452
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,400
toned down to like if it's the trail

1453
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,839
head then to me all the matching

1454
01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:04,880
components should be the trail head not

1455
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,839
a shed and you know fences like all

1456
01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:09,280
these other things that are in that

1457
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,680
whole general area like yeah their match

1458
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,200
looks amazing but I just I agree with

1459
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,880
Brody. I think it needs some refinement.

1460
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,480
>> Thanks Cheryl. Mike you've got your hand

1461
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,920
up.

1462
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,440
Yeah,

1463
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,319
especially after listening to comments,

1464
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:28,720
I noticed a little bit with that crusher

1465
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,040
too with Scott that they were going to

1466
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,920
crush a bunch and then I'm just like,

1467
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,000
wait, we're paying to crush all this

1468
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,440
dirt and they're going to put some of it

1469
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,760
on the

1470
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,640
>> When is the next RTP cycle? Is it next

1471
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,480
year or is it sooner? What are we

1472
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,280
looking at?

1473
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,040
>> It's next year. Yep.

1474
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,680
>> So, that would give them time to really

1475
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:54,480
work with you. and also with Rachel on anything that on the other side could

1476
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,440
help with and uh and make this

1477
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,760
worthwhile the because the project at

1478
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,040
the end of the day is going to be a

1479
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,359
wonderful project when it's all said and

1480
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:06,240
done. It'll be nice. The OP community

1481
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,160
will love it. Everybody else will love

1482
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,920
it, too. but uh just to a chance to to

1483
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,400
do it a little bit better and a

1484
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,079
requirement that they get those letters

1485
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:19,520
of support from the local users uh that

1486
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,440
are going to be asked to do some

1487
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,119
backbreaking work.

1488
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:26,960
>> Thanks, Brody. Nicole, you got your hand

1489
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:27,520
up.

1490
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,920
>> Yeah, just a little bit of a devil's

1491
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,920
advocate. It's been a while since I've

1492
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,240
been up to Puffer Lake and some of that

1493
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,480
area. Last time I was up there a few

1494
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,559
years ago, it was getting pretty busy.

1495
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:41,680
If we're holding off a year, are we

1496
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,559
creating problems up in this area? And I

1497
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:47,200
guess that's maybe more of a a Brody and

1498
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,670
others in that area question.

1499
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,880
» I I I think they'll survive. They've got

1500
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,119
other fish to fry with that project up

1501
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:00,319
there that they could be working on. Um,

1502
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:03,440
and so, uh, one of the concerns that,

1503
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,039
like the local club has is they were

1504
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:09,039
supposed to come up with an agreement

1505
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:11,359
between the county commission and UD do

1506
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:15,920
andor the highway patrol to to permit

1507
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,240
people to actually go up the pavements

1508
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,920
without being harassed by the highway

1509
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,160
patrol, which, you know, bless their

1510
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,520
hearts, that's what they're supposed to

1511
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,960
be doing. But uh um they're supposed to

1512
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,960
pattern that agreement after Iron County

1513
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,880
from Peroan to Brian Head where the

1514
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,079
highway patrol backs off on uh citing

1515
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:38,640
people where uh um but they they've yet

1516
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,079
to do that. And so it's a little bit of

1517
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:46,400
a frustration with the local club that there's it'd be a great thing at

1518
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,839
some point, but they've got a lot of lot

1519
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:50,000
of things they've got to complete first.

1520
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,960
So I I think they'll be fine.

1521
01:04:52,960 --> 01:05:01,990
>> Thanks, Brody. Dave, go ahead.

1522
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:07,430
» David, you've got your hand up.

1523
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:08,720
» Can you hear me?

1524
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,440
>> Yes. Now we can.

1525
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,720
>> Now we can.

1526
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,400
>> Yeah. The biggest user group that'll

1527
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,839
impact if you don't do it this year is

1528
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:16,319
snowmoilers. There's nowhere really to

1529
01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:17,599
park at the end of that road in the

1530
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:19,359
winter. So, if this parking lot's in

1531
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:21,839
place before winter this year, there'll

1532
01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:23,920
be a place for snowmobile snowmoilers to

1533
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,280
park. So,

1534
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,599
>> well, if if next winter is like this

1535
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,319
winter, there won't be snowmmoiling

1536
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:38,069
or or anything.

1537
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:40,319
» Yeah. And we may even recommend to or

1538
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:42,240
ask that you recommend that they come to

1539
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,960
the first round of the overfunding

1540
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,680
um as a possibility too if they get

1541
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,950
these things figured out.

1542
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,599
Okay. Um

1543
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:57,359
so

1544
01:05:57,359 --> 01:05:59,440
let's uh I guess on that one let's just

1545
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:04,480
go ahead and uh vote uh well I'll accept

1546
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:09,750
a motion to uh table this one.

1547
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,119
If somebody wants,

1548
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:12,640
>> don't we have to vote on that to just

1549
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,520
say no?

1550
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,200
>> We could just vote on it and say no or

1551
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:19,119
we can just table it and not vote on it.

1552
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:22,559
>> Can we do that?

1553
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:24,400
>> Rachel,

1554
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,960
>> I would recommend that you do not table

1555
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,720
this. that you can

1556
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,319
you don't have to vote on it, but don't

1557
01:06:32,319 --> 01:06:33,760
table it because if you table it, we'll

1558
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,160
have to bring it up next grant meeting

1559
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,920
to discuss it.

1560
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,559
>> Okay, let's vote on it then.

1561
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:48,720
Uh let's see. We'll start with uh Eric.

1562
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,319
>> No,

1563
01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:53,119
Kurt. Uh sorry, Mike.

1564
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:56,480
No. Nicole,

1565
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,559
>> I'm I'm kind of on the fence, but I'm gonna go with no.

1566
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:02,559
>> Russ,

1567
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:04,640
>> I'll go with no.

1568
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,670
>> Scott,

1569
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,280
» no.

1570
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,559
>> Brett,

1571
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:13,039
>> no.

1572
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:19,119
>> And then did I hit Eric, right?

1573
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,119
Oh, Brody. Brody's next.

1574
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:22,240
>> No.

1575
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,480
>> Okay. and then I'll vote no as well.

1576
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,319
Okay, moving on to the next one down.

1577
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:32,799
This is the European Trail Dozer. This

1578
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:34,480
is one that Nicole, you were asking

1579
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,200
about for San Pete County. So, uh, Mike,

1580
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,280
you've got your hand up.

1581
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,200
>> Yeah, I was wondering if we could kind

1582
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,720
of move this one down to the bottom of

1583
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:49,599
the list, too. Um uh my decision on how

1584
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,760
much to fund it would kind of depend a

1585
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,920
little bit on what's left too.

1586
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,349
Okay.

1587
01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:01,200
Anybody else opposed to that?

1588
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,039
>> I would support Mike's suggestion.

1589
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:08,319
>> Okay. We'll come back to that one then.

1590
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:11,359
Um next one after that one is the uh

1591
01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:14,720
signage project for the Monosel BLM.

1592
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,159
Um it looks like they're looking to get

1593
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:19,359
a side byside to go on their trails and

1594
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:22,319
do some signing. Um any discussion on

1595
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:24,640
this one that

1596
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:37,749
or any questions you guys have.

1597
01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:39,520
Okay. Well, let's go ahead and vote on

1598
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,679
it then. If we uh if we don't have any

1599
01:08:41,679 --> 01:08:44,000
comments or questions,

1600
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:51,440
um we'll start with Mike.

1601
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:53,040
>> Yes.

1602
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,799
>> Nicole,

1603
01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:56,159
>> yes.

1604
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:58,480
>> Russ,

1605
01:08:58,480 --> 01:08:59,679
>> yes.

1606
01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:02,080
>> Scott,

1607
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,359
>> yes.

1608
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:06,709
>> Brett,

1609
01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:09,759
» yes. Brody,

1610
01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:11,040
>> yes.

1611
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,319
>> Eric,

1612
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:13,520
>> yes.

1613
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,920
>> And I'll vote yes as well on that one.

1614
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,199
>> Okay, next one on the list is the

1615
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:25,759
science certified guide trading program

1616
01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:28,719
um from Science Moab. This was an

1617
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:30,880
education

1618
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,400
request. Um

1619
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,950
any comments or questions on this one?

1620
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,960
Go ahead, Nicole.

1621
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,199
>> I'm not sure if I understood this one

1622
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:46,400
correctly or not, but it seems to me

1623
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,920
like they're developing their own

1624
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,199
certified program, which also almost

1625
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:53,199
seems like you could do this as a

1626
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:56,400
business yourself and not like you you

1627
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,159
it could be like a business that

1628
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,719
somebody starts and provides and you

1629
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:02,640
know, guides could purchase the service

1630
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,960
and have their certification. So, I'm

1631
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,280
not sure it's something that's like a

1632
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,840
grant should fund or not. And maybe I

1633
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,880
misread it, but yeah, it just this seems

1634
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,520
like a business and not really a like a

1635
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,239
business venture and not really what

1636
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:21,840
this grants for, but I could be wrong.

1637
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,920
>> Okay, thank you, Nicole. Uh, Brody,

1638
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,719
you've got your hand up. Um, and again,

1639
01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:28,480
I could be wrong, too, but they they

1640
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:30,960
mentioned a couple of times about

1641
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,920
for-profit paperhead.

1642
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,840
Um,

1643
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,480
and and correct me if I'm wrong, but

1644
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:42,640
have we funded a a a business before?

1645
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,000
um cuz they're not that just seems like

1646
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,440
we haven't because we're funding

1647
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:50,719
federal, county, state, municipality,

1648
01:10:50,719 --> 01:10:52,880
501c3s

1649
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,560
and all of a sudden they're mentioning

1650
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,199
paperhead and for profits things like

1651
01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:00,000
that and uh and so or am I reading that

1652
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:00,880
wrong?

1653
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,280
>> From an elig from an eligibility

1654
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,800
perspective, we would want to see that

1655
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,120
they are a 501c3. So if that's something

1656
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,480
that you guys have picked up in your

1657
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:10,159
review, that would very likely

1658
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,400
disqualify them.

1659
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,239
Sounds like Brody and I read it very

1660
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:16,640
similarly.

1661
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,440
>> Yeah, I I I mean unless somebody else

1662
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:25,040
knows able to determine that they have a 501c3.

1663
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,960
Uh but I mean the idea is nice, get

1664
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,239
people out there to learn about the

1665
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:32,159
geology and the history and whatever

1666
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:34,719
else, but uh if they're actually

1667
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:37,840
charging people to do that, that's uh

1668
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,520
that's I think that takes us down a

1669
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:44,709
different path that we don't go down.

1670
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:47,840
» Okay, Mike, you've got your hand up.

1671
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,159
>> Yeah, right in my notes, it says,

1672
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:52,480
"Sounds like a consulting business.

1673
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:55,440
Shouldn't fund a business." Um, I'd have

1674
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,840
a hard time justifying funding this to

1675
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:05,920
the motorized users if I um, you know, I just don't think I could justify look

1676
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,040
at the regist look at the users and say,

1677
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,440
"Yeah, we funded this and it was a good

1678
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:16,640
use of the money." So, I I I agree with

1679
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,840
Brody and Nicole.

1680
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:20,239
So,

1681
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:22,080
>> thanks. Thanks, Mike. Marine, you've got

1682
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,679
your hand up.

1683
01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:25,760
Yeah, looking at their W9, it's listed

1684
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,600
as a CC Corp, so it's not identified as

1685
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,159
a 501c3.

1686
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:33,199
>> Okay, thank you.

1687
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:37,270
>> Thanks, Marine.

1688
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,320
» Okay, well, that's an eligible.

1689
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,070
>> Easy enough.

1690
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,480
Okay. Uh, I don't think we even need to

1691
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:51,990
vote on that one, do we?

1692
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,760
Okay, let's go on to the next one down

1693
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,120
the list. This is the OV trail equipment

1694
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,440
for Garfield County. This is their road

1695
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:03,040
grader. They're looking to purchase to

1696
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,040
maintain class D roads that serve as

1697
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,000
primary OV travel corridors.

1698
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,800
>> Where do we stand at on the the balance

1699
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,120
right now before we talk about it?

1700
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,400
>> Yeah, let me pull up real quick. So,

1701
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,800
right now we have a balance of 393,000,

1702
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,719
but let me just kind of show you the

1703
01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:21,840
distribution right now.

1704
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,669
Make sure it's refreshed.

1705
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:28,239
So,

1706
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:29,679
just to kind of give you guys an idea,

1707
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:31,840
looks like about 300,000 of that has

1708
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,120
gone to maintenance projects. Um 198,000

1709
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,360
to equipment.

1710
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,560
Then that also got picked up as

1711
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,800
equipment. So, uh, yeah, that's the

1712
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,600
rundown.

1713
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,120
Again, that leaves us a balance of

1714
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:50,550
393,750.

1715
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,719
Okay. And there's four applications

1716
01:13:52,719 --> 01:13:56,630
left.

1717
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,080
Okay. Dave, you've got your hand up.

1718
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,760
Yeah, I think we talked about this in

1719
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,760
OVR, but just concerned that they're

1720
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,760
blading or wanting to blade roads that

1721
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,880
are, you know, through track and a style

1722
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,640
that's unique and really experience that

1723
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,280
a lot riders are looking for. Not

1724
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,960
necessarily against buying a piece of

1725
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,719
equipment, just changing the character

1726
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:22,159
of a lot of roads that a lot of people

1727
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:25,669
like to ride.

1728
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:27,440
» Okay, thanks Dave. Mike, you've got your

1729
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:29,600
hand up.

1730
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:34,480
Um yeah, two questions. Uh one is how

1731
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:37,840
many how many more ass do we have? Uh

1732
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,560
you know we have the 393,000 but how

1733
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,560
much how much is left how many ass

1734
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:45,600
do we have?

1735
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,840
>> So we have two more projects that we

1736
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,520
have not discussed and then you still

1737
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,080
have the um Utah Avalanche Center

1738
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,040
project and the Monosella BLM were two

1739
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,320
projects that I believe you moved on

1740
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,550
from.

1741
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,320
Um,

1742
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,760
I don't know. I have super mixed

1743
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,719
feelings about this one. Uh, I I second

1744
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:11,360
the I really don't like the idea of just

1745
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,920
dropping the blade on 400 miles of two

1746
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,880
tracks. Um, but I did talk to

1747
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:24,560
uh Garfield County and and they do have

1748
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,400
um,

1749
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,360
you know, it's kind of a I I don't know.

1750
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,640
I I talked to him and it changed my view

1751
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,199
a little bit, but but I don't know

1752
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:37,040
whether,

1753
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,880
you know, if I could get some guarantee

1754
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,640
that they wouldn't just drop the blade

1755
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,520
and blade 400 miles of two tracks, if

1756
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,239
they would just kind of just clean them

1757
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:48,480
up a little bit here and there and and

1758
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:50,719
make them passable,

1759
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:54,159
uh, then then I would be more likely to

1760
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:57,520
say yes. But it does I do have a little

1761
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,920
concern about just changing the aspect

1762
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:07,830
of 400 miles of trails.

1763
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,400
» Cheryl, you've got your hand up.

1764
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,000
>> Yeah. I guess my question with this one

1765
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,920
is I don't think we the council voted to

1766
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,840
move forward their overrant ask which

1767
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:22,159
was 145,000 of their of the ask of the

1768
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:24,800
matching needed to make this purchase

1769
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,080
anyways. So I guess is that accurate

1770
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,920
that we did the council did not move

1771
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,440
that forward because if so then I think

1772
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,640
they're 150 $145,000 short of even being

1773
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,920
able to buy this equipment.

1774
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,640
>> That's correct.

1775
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,719
Scott, you've got your hand up.

1776
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:47,040
>> Yes, I do. Um, uh,

1777
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,640
there's these two pieces of equipment,

1778
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,719
this greater and the cat, that I have

1779
01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:54,320
concerns about. I I'm wondering if we

1780
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,280
need to put a a small committee

1781
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,520
together, two or three people to

1782
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,560
actually go talk with them, have them

1783
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,280
show us why they need these big pieces

1784
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:09,280
of equipment and maybe we can have some

1785
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,600
adjustment and, you know, maybe they can

1786
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,679
convince us what the need is because

1787
01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:16,320
right now I I have concerns. I I had a

1788
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,280
conversation with a a longtime employee

1789
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,040
of the Forest Service today that's

1790
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,280
worked for the BLM for several years and

1791
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,440
for the Forest Service for several years

1792
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,440
and they have concerns about these

1793
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:29,600
bigger pieces of equipment being used on

1794
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,920
trails. Uh and Mike and I have talked a

1795
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,758
little teensy bit about it that maybe

1796
01:17:37,758 --> 01:17:39,840
[snorts] these aren't the best for what

1797
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,480
we want to use them for. Uh, and they're

1798
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:44,640
probably going to get used for something

1799
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,199
else than what we intended them to be

1800
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:50,480
used for. So, uh, I don't want to not

1801
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:53,040
fund them because I've had conversations

1802
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:58,960
with them and they talk about all the routes that they need to work on,

1803
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,600
but I do have heartburn on these big

1804
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,000
pieces of equipment. That bulldozer has

1805
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,760
110inch wide blade. Uh the the road

1806
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,400
grader is over eight feet wide by

1807
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:15,280
itself. Uh so

1808
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,360
I don't know I don't know Evan if that's

1809
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,800
possible to to say okay

1810
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,880
we can fund them uh after we go down and

1811
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,400
talk to them. that that's

1812
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,640
it's always been good when I went and

1813
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,400
went on the ground and talked with them

1814
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,080
and have them show me what they're going

1815
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,840
to be doing and and maybe they can

1816
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,560
convince me or maybe perhaps we'll

1817
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,480
convince them that they don't need this

1818
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:44,229
piece of equipment.

1819
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:48,560
» Thanks on that what I had to say.

1820
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,560
Well, and something else that I was

1821
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,880
thinking with this too is if this is

1822
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,960
just to do or to to get the roads or

1823
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,480
access up to snuff, um, does it need to

1824
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:02,400
be a full purchase of equipment or could

1825
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,159
it be just a lease for a summer that

1826
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:05,600
they can go do the work and then it's

1827
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,199
fixed for a while and spend

1828
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:10,640
substantially less money than what is

1829
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,280
needed? But to your point, Scott, I

1830
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,520
mean, if they own the equipment, they're

1831
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:16,719
going to use it for more than just

1832
01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:18,640
trails. They're going to use it for

1833
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,280
anything they can. And part of part of

1834
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,120
the other one, too, is they were using

1835
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,920
B-roll funds to help purchase it as

1836
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,960
their match. So, you know, they're

1837
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,640
obviously going to be using it on B-ros,

1838
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,280
too. And how much of it is going to be

1839
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,440
used for the trails versus how much the

1840
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:38,000
roads, it's not very clear on either of

1841
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,679
these.

1842
01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:42,800
Yeah. And just to address um the lack of

1843
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,800
match and I think you just spoke to it

1844
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,920
Jason um they do have a match beyond

1845
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,120
that that over pending grant. So as you

1846
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,880
just noted there's 115,000 coming from

1847
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,800
their B roads fund. So thank you

1848
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,120
>> Nicole. You've got your hand up.

1849
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,280
>> Yeah. I think the the part for me on

1850
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,400
this one is like and I I think maybe we

1851
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,239
all kind of have the same idea in our

1852
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:07,920
head is when I think class D I think

1853
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,560
like kind of a twotrack road, but not

1854
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,679
all class D's are twotrack roads. Some

1855
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:15,520
of them are, you know, it's just kind of

1856
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,000
how a county designates them. And so

1857
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,239
some of them are actually roads that do

1858
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:22,400
get maintained pretty regularly and are

1859
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,640
used pretty frequently. And so I think

1860
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,520
that's kind of for me like yeah I think

1861
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,760
there is a need especially because a lot

1862
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,640
of these D-Roads provide access to other

1863
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,840
you know other areas. So for me I'm I'm

1864
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,199
kind of in on this because yeah class

1865
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:44,229
D's are not all created equally.

1866
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:47,280
Some of the discussion I had with uh

1867
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,560
Garfield County is that uh a lot of this

1868
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,239
was going to be done on Forest Service

1869
01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:54,880
ground and that the class two roads up

1870
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,400
there uh that they say that the BLM I

1871
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,080
mean the bill and the forest service are

1872
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,880
unable or can't afford to to to clean

1873
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,320
these routes up and these these roads or

1874
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,040
access routes are some they sit kind of

1875
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:16,159
in the middle of no man's land. uh and they need to be maintained. Uh I I'm

1876
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:18,800
not against that. I just I guess I I

1877
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,560
need to almost be on the ground to see

1878
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,320
what they're going to do and say, "Okay,

1879
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,199
I I I'm okay with what you're doing." I

1880
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:27,840
got the impression from Garfield County

1881
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,159
that if they didn't get funding, they

1882
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:33,440
would still try to pursue getting this

1883
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,280
road graater.

1884
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,880
Uh, and so I I don't know if it'd be the

1885
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,920
same with the the bulldozer, but I I

1886
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,239
just I need to see what they're going to

1887
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:48,790
use it for.

1888
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,679
» Yeah, I I visited with them also and and

1889
01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:53,360
in their pictures, they have a before

1890
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,040
and after. And the before is a two

1891
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,440
track, you know, obviously it's got some

1892
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:01,520
whoops in it and everything. And after's

1893
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,040
a graded road, you know, and I mean,

1894
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,080
we're talking a 12T blade on this thing,

1895
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,679
you know, even sideways, you're going to

1896
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:12,480
have 10 ft wide, which which isn't too

1897
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,040
wide, but but if you're trying to get a

1898
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,840
12T I mean, most of the forest roads

1899
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,639
that I think of, you can't get a grater

1900
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:22,239
down them because the trees are too

1901
01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:26,239
tight, you know. Um, and so, yeah,

1902
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:28,159
that's my concern. And he said, he said,

1903
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:30,719
"Well, that road goes to a trail head

1904
01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:32,239
and people need to be able to get to the

1905
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:35,440
trail head." And and in that instance, I

1906
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:39,120
would totally be okay. Yeah. You know,

1907
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,960
the road to a trail head should be

1908
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,639
pretty good. But if you just run right

1909
01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:46,560
over the trail head and grade the trail

1910
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,280
behind it, then then it's taken away

1911
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:53,360
from the experience. And so yeah, I just

1912
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:58,719
um I have a I have some heart burn with

1913
01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:01,199
just kind of goes back to the it may

1914
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:04,159
improve the experience for one people

1915
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:06,159
one person but take it away from a lot

1916
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:10,719
of other people, you know, and so um uh

1917
01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:14,480
I just I just have a little heartburn

1918
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:17,440
about having them

1919
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:19,440
um

1920
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:22,239
having them just, you know, and 400

1921
01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:24,880
miles of road's a lot of road, you know,

1922
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,520
to where they could probably get a

1923
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,120
little smaller piece of equipment and

1924
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,560
spot maintain, fix the real bad spots,

1925
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:38,239
and um move through it. So,

1926
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:40,639
>> Cheryl, go ahead.

1927
01:23:40,639 --> 01:23:42,480
>> Yeah, I put this in the chat as well. I

1928
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:44,639
think my comment wasn't so much about

1929
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:46,320
them not being able to make the match as

1930
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,719
it it was can they even afford the piece

1931
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:50,239
of equipment if they don't have that

1932
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:53,199
$145,000 of over because it looks like

1933
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:56,480
it's a $460,000 piece of equipment from

1934
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:58,480
their budget.

1935
01:23:58,480 --> 01:23:59,840
So I don't know if they could come up

1936
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,480
with that other 145 or not but that was

1937
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:04,080
more my question not so much the

1938
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,280
matching.

1939
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,120
Well, the next suggestion I had if they

1940
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:08,639
were going to go this route and be able

1941
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:10,639
to get that is maybe apply for the next

1942
01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:14,159
round of over to uh get the the rest of

1943
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:16,239
the money they need on it and indeed if

1944
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:19,440
they need this piece of equipment and I

1945
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:23,360
there the guy I talked to down there was

1946
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,000
really says we really really need this

1947
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:33,189
piece of equipment and I uh so

1948
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:34,400
go ahead Nicole.

1949
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,719
I kind of think like like Scott just

1950
01:24:36,719 --> 01:24:39,920
said like I do think that you know there

1951
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,920
is a need for it. I think the county

1952
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,400
could use it and I do think it would be

1953
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:52,229
used wisely.

1954
01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:54,320
» Okay.

1955
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,840
Well, let's let's go ahead and vote on

1956
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,070
this one then.

1957
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,920
Um let's start with

1958
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,320
Mike.

1959
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,440
>> Dang. I was hoping you wouldn't be um

1960
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:15,430
Oh, I have heart,

1961
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:15,840
» you know.

1962
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,639
>> Hey, Jason. Jason, before we vote on it,

1963
01:25:18,639 --> 01:25:21,120
can we talk just a tad bit more about

1964
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:25,600
it? I I I I I think if somehow we were

1965
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,320
able to go sit down and talk with him

1966
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,719
and have him show us

1967
01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:32,239
and I don't know how much that would

1968
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:34,880
complicate this whole process, but can

1969
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,639
we say, "Hey, we'll fund it." Uh after

1970
01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:40,800
we go, let's say we just hold the

1971
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,639
funding out there and say, "But we need

1972
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:44,000
to come down and see what you're going

1973
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,239
to do and have some commitments from you

1974
01:25:46,239 --> 01:25:48,159
of what you're going to do and not do

1975
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:53,110
with it.

1976
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:54,960
Yeah, I'll just say like to me this

1977
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,320
application is missing a lot of

1978
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,000
information.

1979
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,239
You want to blade some roads, you better

1980
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:05,030
declare which roads you want to blade

1981
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,440
and not just simply by the class. Like

1982
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:10,639
you need to really identify some miles

1983
01:26:10,639 --> 01:26:14,790
and put those on a map.

1984
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,120
» Yeah, that's that's helpful. Thanks. Uh

1985
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,280
Nicole, you've got your hand up.

1986
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,520
I mean, just kind of going off of what

1987
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,840
Scott just said. I mean, could we just

1988
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,120
write in if we approve this, write in

1989
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,600
that, you know, a little a few

1990
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,520
stipulations, you know, like I I don't

1991
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,440
know any good ones off the top of my

1992
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:37,840
head, but, you know, don't you know,

1993
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,120
improve the roads beyond, you know, X

1994
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,400
width and, you know, just a few criteria

1995
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,400
to kind of help the county understand

1996
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,400
the way that this this committee would

1997
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,000
like that equipment to be used and

1998
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,840
considered,

1999
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,199
But and and to your point, um both you

2000
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:58,000
and Scott, I think at this point, if

2001
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,280
they're not prepared with that

2002
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,840
information, they're not quite prepared

2003
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,320
to make a solid

2004
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,120
application. Um

2005
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,600
and and it's come back next time type of

2006
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:15,040
a thing in in my opinion. Um, I just uh

2007
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,159
and and kind of to Russ's point that if

2008
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:20,960
they don't have good information, we've

2009
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,560
seen really good applications in the

2010
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,679
past where they identify specific trail

2011
01:27:25,679 --> 01:27:27,840
problems that they've inventoried,

2012
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,840
they've identified the routes that

2013
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,320
they're going to fix and how that

2014
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,679
equipment is going to be used to fix

2015
01:27:33,679 --> 01:27:36,560
them. Um, and they don't have that here.

2016
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,679
They just have this is a bunch of roads

2017
01:27:39,679 --> 01:27:44,000
that are are critical paths and so there

2018
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,880
there's some holes in this one and they

2019
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,760
may just not be prepared as prepared as

2020
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,280
we need them to be and if we're having

2021
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,679
to go back and forth with them. Maybe

2022
01:27:55,679 --> 01:27:57,600
it's the back and forth and then come

2023
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,440
back next time and and let's talk about

2024
01:27:59,440 --> 01:28:03,830
it.

2025
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,840
Um Dave, you had your hand up. Did you

2026
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,360
have any

2027
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,960
>> Oh, you touched on what I was going to

2028
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,280
bring up. I know there's a feeling that

2029
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,920
they don't need to have NEPA uh because

2030
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,320
they own the county class B roads

2031
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,960
because they're RS2477.

2032
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,639
Um I don't know if the BLM and the

2033
01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:24,159
Forest Service necess feel that way as

2034
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:28,400
well. So just just a thought that was in

2035
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:33,510
their grant.

2036
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,159
Yeah, there's there's probably

2037
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:38,719
definitely a difference of opinions on

2038
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:40,480
that.

2039
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:42,480
You know, Flipco might even have a

2040
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:44,639
differing opinion than the BLM on that.

2041
01:28:44,639 --> 01:28:46,639
So,

2042
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:50,000
we do have some uh court findings

2043
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,430
recently.

2044
01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:55,920
» Well, and and this is a equipment

2045
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,760
purchase. It's not necessarily a

2046
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,080
but yeah again to your point like where

2047
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,600
are they actually going to be using this

2048
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,120
and we don't know that other than

2049
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:09,040
they've got a a large spiderweb

2050
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:14,709
of the whole county. So

2051
01:29:14,719 --> 01:29:21,189
okay any other discussion on this one.

2052
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:24,480
All right, let's go back and uh take it

2053
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:26,560
back to Mike.

2054
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,400
>> Yeah, I I just not too comfortable with

2055
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,719
it. And and if and let me just re the

2056
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:36,639
money if there's extra money, it will

2057
01:29:36,639 --> 01:29:41,750
stay in the motorized RTP fund, right,

2058
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,320
» Evan?

2059
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,239
>> I apologize. I was responding to a text

2060
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:46,639
from a from a a council member. Um can

2061
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:49,040
you say that again? If if there's extra

2062
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:50,719
money left over, it will stay in the

2063
01:29:50,719 --> 01:29:53,040
motorized RTP fund, right?

2064
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:53,840
>> That's correct.

2065
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,239
>> Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna have to say

2066
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:57,840
no.

2067
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,360
>> Okay. Nicole,

2068
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,280
>> yes.

2069
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,639
>> Russ,

2070
01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:05,199
>> no.

2071
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:06,800
>> Scott.

2072
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,960
>> Uh, yes.

2073
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:14,310
>> Brett,

2074
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,840
is Brett still on?

2075
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,000
Yeah. Uh, no.

2076
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,960
>> Okay. Brody,

2077
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,440
>> yes.

2078
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:28,239
>> Uh, and then Eric,

2079
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:30,159
>> yes.

2080
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:35,120
>> And then me, I'm going to say no.

2081
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,600
>> So, where does that put us on funding

2082
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:38,400
it?

2083
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,920
>> I think that puts you at a tie.

2084
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,000
>> Dr.

2085
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,760
I don't know. I I was holding out my

2086
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,679
fingers as you were counting. I'm glad

2087
01:30:47,679 --> 01:30:48,719
go past five.

2088
01:30:48,719 --> 01:30:50,239
>> So you might have the numbers for us

2089
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:50,719
here.

2090
01:30:50,719 --> 01:30:53,280
>> You're right, Wade. It is a tie.

2091
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,040
>> Well, thank you, Marine. I'm glad my

2092
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,840
fingers were wrong.

2093
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,760
>> I was just counting. I was going, you

2094
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:00,159
got

2095
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:02,762
>> I'll change my note to two nos.

2096
01:31:02,762 --> 01:31:03,760
[laughter]

2097
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:08,629
>> I don't I'm not sure if I can do that.

2098
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:10,719
» Okay. Well, how do we handle a

2099
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:15,030
tiebreaker?

2100
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,400
Um I I think Evan jumped in, but I think

2101
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,159
you could open it up for some more

2102
01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:23,199
discussion and where it's a tiebreaker,

2103
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:26,560
you could vote a second time if there's

2104
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,199
any additional discussion after you

2105
01:31:29,199 --> 01:31:30,560
voted.

2106
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,639
>> Is it that or is it does it need to be a

2107
01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:35,199
majority vote

2108
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:37,040
to fund it?

2109
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,120
>> Is there a caveat that could convince

2110
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:45,510
one of us to change our minds?

2111
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,800
I guess that is a good question. I I

2112
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,600
would ask on those of you that said no,

2113
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,480
like are there things that would make

2114
01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:56,080
you feel more comfortable? And I guess

2115
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,320
you could ask the same question of us

2116
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,199
that said yes.

2117
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:03,760
>> I would I would throw in just a a two

2118
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,800
cents about Garfield. They are very pro-

2119
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,679
O. They are on part of the front line

2120
01:32:09,679 --> 01:32:12,800
with RS2477.

2121
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,000
Um they have a wide span as some of you

2122
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,480
may know they go in fact they're

2123
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:22,080
probably one of the longest

2124
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:23,679
well

2125
01:32:23,679 --> 01:32:28,159
they maintain a lot of roads on the

2126
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:30,000
other side of Lake Pal that people don't

2127
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,639
realize that Garfield County stretches

2128
01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:35,760
over and borders Wayne County clear on

2129
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:41,840
the very eastern edge of the state. So,

2130
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,320
just some thought.

2131
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,080
>> Well, if there's anything I can speak

2132
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,920
slightly to here, it's the fact um that

2133
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,719
they this was a an application that they

2134
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:53,600
moved over from uh the over grant cycle

2135
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,840
very quickly. So, you know, any of those

2136
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,080
kind of questions that maybe weren't as

2137
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,840
uh detailed as you might typically want

2138
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,600
to see, I I will say I think they

2139
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,600
completed their application in one day.

2140
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:04,800
Um you know, and I don't know if that

2141
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,719
speaks to preparation or not, but it was

2142
01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:10,639
moved over from from over very quickly.

2143
01:33:10,639 --> 01:33:12,880
I guess Nicole, to answer your question

2144
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,000
for me, that that said no, if they if

2145
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,080
they leased for a year and reduced the

2146
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,679
amount they were asking, I'd probably be

2147
01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:21,840
okay with it because to me that shows

2148
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:23,360
that they're they're just going to go in

2149
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:28,000
and fix these problems and then um

2150
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,800
and then basic it seemed like the

2151
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,679
problem is is these access roads to the

2152
01:33:33,679 --> 01:33:36,400
trail heads. Um,

2153
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:41,120
and another thing for me is, um,

2154
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,520
maintaining roads, two trail heads. That seems like those should be

2155
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,760
maintained roads, not necessarily a

2156
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,679
trail by themselves. So,

2157
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:55,520
um, but I I do want to help the

2158
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,040
community. I don't know these roads

2159
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,400
exactly, and I don't know what they are

2160
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,400
trying to do specifically. They say that

2161
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,360
they're critical routes. Um, and if it

2162
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,840
is that critical, let's get them fixed.

2163
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,280
But I don't think we necessarily need to

2164
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,639
buy a 400 $60,000 piece of equipment to

2165
01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:14,400
make it happen. I think we can do it

2166
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,040
with a lease for a summer and and make

2167
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,440
it happen that way.

2168
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:26,310
>> Can we suggest that?

2169
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:30,639
» Uh, Mike, you've got your hand up.

2170
01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:35,360
Um, yeah, I kind of, you know, that's I

2171
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:39,600
mean, my my big concern is just,

2172
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,679
you know, we had

2173
01:34:41,679 --> 01:34:43,360
we kind of had the same thing happened.

2174
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,760
We had some roads that were two tracks

2175
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:50,960
and just kind of nice fun roads and

2176
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,280
um they got bladed uh for some reason.

2177
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:56,960
Um

2178
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,920
uh and and I think the reasoning was

2179
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:03,120
good, but and it probably overall I

2180
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,280
think they were bladed to make sure that

2181
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:10,880
they didn't get closed, you know, but it did, you know, that was probably

2182
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,840
10 years ago and they're still pretty

2183
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,080
good roads, you know, and and lots of

2184
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,040
times those go back to to where they're

2185
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,520
kind of fit in that trail category. it.

2186
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,080
But they it did change the experience of

2187
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,960
driving those roads and stuff. And so,

2188
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,719
um, yeah, I mean, if I could, unlike

2189
01:35:30,719 --> 01:35:32,400
Scott, if I could go down and see what

2190
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,480
they're planning on doing, then I might

2191
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:37,920
change my mind. But without that, um, I

2192
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,600
just I just I just need some kind of

2193
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:47,280
insurance or assurance that they weren't going to go, you know,

2194
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,360
I I when I think of trail maintenance, I

2195
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,480
think kind of spots that need it. Um,

2196
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:55,679
and sometimes that is lay the put the

2197
01:35:55,679 --> 01:35:58,719
blade down and go, you know, but um,

2198
01:35:58,719 --> 01:36:01,360
yeah. So if if there was some kind of

2199
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,199
insure assurance that they were just

2200
01:36:03,199 --> 01:36:09,840
going to kind of spot maintain um then I would probably go change my mind

2201
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,000
but I don't know that they could give me

2202
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,639
that without especially without me being

2203
01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:18,159
really being familiar with it. So

2204
01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:20,480
>> thanks Mike Scott you're up next.

2205
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:23,199
>> Yeah, a thought that I didn't bring up

2206
01:36:23,199 --> 01:36:26,719
before and Wade reminded me of it. Uh, I

2207
01:36:26,719 --> 01:36:28,800
think Garfield County is the most

2208
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,159
pro-access county in our state and they

2209
01:36:32,159 --> 01:36:34,239
have worked

2210
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:37,440
hard to keep routes open. Uh, they're

2211
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:39,360
reopening routes that have been closed

2212
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:43,600
for years. Uh, and on that note, I I

2213
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,119
want to give them kind of benefit of the

2214
01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:48,320
doubt to some extent. And and if it was

2215
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,400
if Salt Lake County was asking me for

2216
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,639
this, I would say absolutely not. But

2217
01:36:52,639 --> 01:36:57,280
Garfield Countyy's asking for it and and they have done some really neat

2218
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:58,719
things. They have opened some routes

2219
01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:02,480
that are just great, super good routes.

2220
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:05,440
And so I guess that's why I'm I'm

2221
01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:07,280
saying, hey, I'm I'm I'm willing to

2222
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,320
fight for them. And uh and maybe even if

2223
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,159
they get it, I will still go down and

2224
01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:14,239
ask them what they're going to be doing

2225
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:17,910
with the machine.

2226
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,159
» Okay. Nicole.

2227
01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:22,320
>> Yeah. And I guess Wade kind of spurred a

2228
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,632
thought for me as well and kind

2229
01:37:24,632 --> 01:37:26,159
[clears throat] of stems off of what

2230
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:28,400
Wheeler was just saying, but you know,

2231
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,480
Garfield County has a great partnership

2232
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:32,320
with its surrounding counties where

2233
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,560
they, you know, where it doesn't make

2234
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,560
exactly the perfect, you know, it's

2235
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,719
easier to access from another county or

2236
01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:40,560
it's easier to access from their county

2237
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,560
to do trail maintenance. And they work

2238
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,480
very collaboratively with some other

2239
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:46,880
counties. And so I think this tool could

2240
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,840
be used more than just right there in

2241
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,679
Garfield. You know, it could help some

2242
01:37:51,679 --> 01:37:56,229
of the surrounding counties, too.

2243
01:37:56,239 --> 01:37:58,960
» All right, David.

2244
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,520
>> Yeah, I realize I'm not a voting member,

2245
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,280
but uh my thought here is I I agree with

2246
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,440
Nicole. All class B roads are not

2247
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:09,520
created equal, and some of them are

2248
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,639
bladed and maintained for a permit or

2249
01:38:12,639 --> 01:38:15,199
other reasons. So if they wanted to

2250
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:16,560
maintain those roads they're already

2251
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,719
maintaining that are county class D, I

2252
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:20,480
think that would be appropriate. Maybe

2253
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:22,159
that would be a caveat that would make

2254
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:24,560
everybody feel comfortable. So instead

2255
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,719
of saying you can just maintain all

2256
01:38:26,719 --> 01:38:29,119
county class D, it's county class D's

2257
01:38:29,119 --> 01:38:32,000
that are currently being maintained at

2258
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,390
some level with a machine.

2259
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,520
Well, couldn't if they're matching money

2260
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,880
from the county and saying, "Okay, this

2261
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,360
machine's going to cost this much." Can

2262
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,800
they say, "Hey, we're going to match it

2263
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,360
at this level here, and we will use it

2264
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,159
at 20% of the time on a class B road or

2265
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:55,119
10% of the time on a class B road. Can

2266
01:38:55,119 --> 01:39:01,350
we figure this into the equation?"

2267
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,920
I know that's not said in the grant, but

2268
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,560
uh you know, we've done that before with

2269
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,080
other pieces of equipment where it's

2270
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,080
non-motorized and motorized and they

2271
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:14,560
have to match, but uh uh

2272
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,000
>> I don't think they I don't think

2273
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,119
Garfield County specified B money coming

2274
01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:19,520
into

2275
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,520
>> No, they did. They did not. But I'm just

2276
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:33,109
saying uh uh

2277
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:38,550
Yeah, that was

2278
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,119
Yep. [laughter]

2279
01:39:41,119 --> 01:39:43,360
Russ, what's your

2280
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,790
thought?

2281
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,239
Um, so they moved us over from over, but

2282
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:53,119
they still included that

2283
01:39:53,119 --> 01:39:55,520
pending grant money from over which

2284
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:00,080
they're not they weren't approved. So, I

2285
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,679
don't know how you really advance it

2286
01:40:01,679 --> 01:40:07,040
when one of their funding legs isn't

2287
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,840
>> I was suggested

2288
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,000
>> that they go ahead and reapply in two

2289
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,080
months on the next cycle if they they

2290
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,239
have to have that funding, but I was

2291
01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:18,000
told that one way or another they're

2292
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,080
going to pursue this this this greater

2293
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,960
and uh they would like some help. He

2294
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,639
says it might take them a couple years

2295
01:40:24,639 --> 01:40:26,400
before they can get it if they couldn't

2296
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,920
get any funding from uh some some the

2297
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,000
grants. And

2298
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,000
uh I guess right now I'm fighting for

2299
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,119
them on the deal, I suppose. So uh I'll

2300
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:39,840
just leave it at that.

2301
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:45,669
Mike, you're up next.

2302
01:40:45,679 --> 01:40:50,320
» Man, this is hard. uh you know if we'll

2303
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:54,400
just write in there that they'll

2304
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:59,040
if I you know that and I don't know just write in the suggestion that they

2305
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,800
just

2306
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,320
bought maintain the trails

2307
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,159
especially just the two tracks and leave

2308
01:41:06,159 --> 01:41:08,080
the majority of them two tracks if

2309
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,760
they'll if we'll just write that

2310
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,800
suggestion into the grant

2311
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:18,870
I'd change my name or change my vote

2312
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,560
Nicole,

2313
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:22,159
>> and I think my comment kind of goes

2314
01:41:22,159 --> 01:41:24,800
along with Mike's, but um I like what

2315
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,440
David had to say, like, you know, could

2316
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:29,360
we write it to where it says only the

2317
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:30,800
roads that are currently being

2318
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,040
maintained? And then my suggestion was

2319
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,119
kind of what Mike's just saying there is

2320
01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:37,920
um you know, and spot maintain where

2321
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,760
needed, you know, because sometimes you

2322
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,679
get goalie washers and road kind of

2323
01:41:41,679 --> 01:41:42,960
washes out and you're going to need to

2324
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,520
go spot maintain. So, you know, if we

2325
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:46,960
kind of give them a little bit of

2326
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,800
guidance on how we'd like to see it

2327
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,119
used, like I I think that could be a

2328
01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:57,590
good good way to move forward.

2329
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,360
» Marine, do you see any issue with that?

2330
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:02,719
>> No. So, you're thinking of giving them

2331
01:42:02,719 --> 01:42:04,320
the full funding then? So, we're not

2332
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,679
going down the path where we'd want to

2333
01:42:05,679 --> 01:42:07,040
say anything about leasing the

2334
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:12,390
equipment.

2335
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,480
That's not what I'm suggesting. My

2336
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:16,800
suggestion is give them full funding,

2337
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,119
but just write in the grant like to be

2338
01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:22,639
used on already maintained roads and you

2339
01:42:22,639 --> 01:42:25,920
know spot maintenance on unmaintained

2340
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,040
roads.

2341
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:37,030
>> Okay. Yep. I have that down.

2342
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,639
So, does that mean I have changed my

2343
01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:40,800
vote to yes

2344
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,119
to move this on? So,

2345
01:42:43,119 --> 01:42:44,800
>> well, I'm just trying to think through

2346
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,080
that, too, because what's going to

2347
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,000
prevent them from saying, "Oh, yeah,

2348
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,679
that that road's now a maintained road."

2349
01:42:51,679 --> 01:42:53,840
You know what I mean? I don't know how

2350
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,040
you even police that or it would just be

2351
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,360
so nice if we had a map of what what

2352
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,520
roads they're looking at. Eric, you've

2353
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,360
got your hand up.

2354
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,880
>> Yeah, just re re Oh, sorry, I can't even

2355
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,000
talk. It's the end of the day. Reiterate

2356
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,199
what's been said before is I trust

2357
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:17,040
Garfield County's judgment at this point

2358
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,800
based on everything I've seen them do

2359
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:24,080
um in the last five, six years that

2360
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,400
they've been coming to us for funding.

2361
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,880
Um, I don't think there's going to be a

2362
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,320
problem with them just dropping the

2363
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,560
blade and grading everything. I think

2364
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:36,560
they understand what a good experience

2365
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:38,560
is and and I'm just going to have to

2366
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,440
have faith that they do that. I mean, we

2367
01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:44,159
don't we don't go out and police

2368
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:46,080
everybody else. I mean, we we can make

2369
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,880
our thoughts known. We can make a

2370
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:50,960
recommendation. Hey, you know, with this

2371
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:52,320
greater, it'd be great if you didn't

2372
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:54,480
ruin the experience by turning

2373
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:57,520
everything into a highway, but at the

2374
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,800
same time, I I've got faith that they'll

2375
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,520
use their heads. So, that's that's my

2376
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,719
thoughts and I'm ready to vote.

2377
01:44:06,719 --> 01:44:08,560
>> I'll just quickly add, I think Eric

2378
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,960
makes a great point. I mean, if we fund

2379
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,280
this, we can kind of give them our two

2380
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,600
cents, but if they find funding other

2381
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,800
ways, you know, our two cents are not,

2382
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:25,590
they don't have to consider them. So,

2383
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:30,880
» okay. Well, with those conditions, let's go ahead and vote on it. Again,

2384
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,920
>> Jason, one more thing. Uh, there's no

2385
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:37,119
restrictions in using RTP money for B

2386
01:44:37,119 --> 01:44:41,750
roads.

2387
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,760
Okay. Yeah. And I think I had a question

2388
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:49,119
about that, too. Um, which I I think I

2389
01:44:49,119 --> 01:44:54,870
Yeah.

2390
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,520
» Okay. Let's go ahead and vote on it. Um,

2391
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,600
we'll start with Nicole then.

2392
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,520
>> I'm a yes.

2393
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:02,800
>> Russ,

2394
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,320
>> no.

2395
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,000
>> Scott,

2396
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,719
>> yes.

2397
01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:13,189
Uh Brett

2398
01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:16,320
» Wheeler talked me into it. Yes.

2399
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,159
>> Brody.

2400
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:20,719
>> Yes.

2401
01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:23,280
>> Um let's see. Eric,

2402
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,600
>> yes.

2403
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,880
>> And Mike.

2404
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,040
>> Yeah. With the suggestion that they just

2405
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:36,149
are careful not to ruin the experience.

2406
01:45:36,159 --> 01:45:38,800
Okay. And then I

2407
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,360
um

2408
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:48,550
I'll vote yes.

2409
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:52,960
Okay, let's go ahead and move on to the

2410
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,400
next one. This is the Salina Motocross

2411
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,360
uh and mountain bike park phase one.

2412
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,440
This was the same application that we

2413
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:05,360
had at over where we ultimately um

2414
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,520
decided not to fund it at that one

2415
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,440
because the landowner issues had not

2416
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:11,199
been taken care of. Is there any updates

2417
01:46:11,199 --> 01:46:12,880
on that or do we have any more

2418
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,390
information?

2419
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,119
» None was provided to me.

2420
01:46:19,119 --> 01:46:23,270
>> Okay,

2421
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:24,960
» let's go ahead and vote on this one

2422
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:26,960
then.

2423
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,480
Um, we'll see.

2424
01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:30,239
>> Quick question. So, there was no

2425
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:34,159
agreement between the city and the land

2426
01:46:34,159 --> 01:46:35,760
owner then. They never reached an

2427
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:37,440
agreement.

2428
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:38,080
>> No.

2429
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:42,480
>> Okay. Just want to double check that.

2430
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:47,510
>> Okay. Thanks. Uh, Russ,

2431
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,280
» no.

2432
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,600
>> Scott,

2433
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,280
>> no.

2434
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:54,159
>> Brett,

2435
01:46:54,159 --> 01:46:56,080
>> no. Brody,

2436
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:57,199
>> no.

2437
01:46:57,199 --> 01:46:58,320
>> Eric,

2438
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:59,840
>> no.

2439
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,360
>> Uh, Mike,

2440
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:02,480
>> no.

2441
01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:03,679
>> Nicole,

2442
01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:04,800
>> no.

2443
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:09,109
>> All right, I'll vote no as well.

2444
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:13,679
» Okay, the next one. Let's go back up to

2445
01:47:13,679 --> 01:47:23,030
the trail dozer for San Pee County.

2446
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:24,639
» Quick question. And where were we at on

2447
01:47:24,639 --> 01:47:26,320
funds?

2448
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:27,760
>> Yeah, thanks for asking it because I do

2449
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,920
need to clarify something real quick. I

2450
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,960
did miss a I I mischecked a box earlier.

2451
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:34,960
So I I gave you guys an accurate total.

2452
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,960
So right now we've awarded uh $600,000.

2453
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,119
So 600,545

2454
01:47:41,119 --> 01:47:44,080
awarded. Uh and there is a balance of

2455
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,320
343,000

2456
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,280
still available. So $343,022

2457
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:54,629
available.

2458
01:47:54,639 --> 01:47:57,280
Okay, thank you, Evan.

2459
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,679
>> What grants do we have left to look at?

2460
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:03,199
>> Trail dozer and the uh forecasting

2461
01:48:03,199 --> 01:48:05,440
avalanche forecasting.

2462
01:48:05,440 --> 01:48:08,870
>> Yeah.

2463
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,840
» So, if I do my math correctly, which is

2464
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,920
really hard because I don't have enough

2465
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,000
fingers and toes, but we should have

2466
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,000
enough to fund the rest. I mean, would

2467
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,880
anybody be opposed to the the idea of

2468
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,280
just blanket funding the last two or do

2469
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,199
we does anybody want to have further

2470
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:26,960
discussions on them?

2471
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:28,480
>> I'd like to have a little discussion on

2472
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:30,239
this trail dozer.

2473
01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:31,040
>> Okay.

2474
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:36,000
>> Um, so my thoughts are is I mean it's a

2475
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,520
little dozer as dozers go. It's it

2476
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,400
weighs about 20,000 lbs. It's 6 foot

2477
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,360
tracks. has a

2478
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,040
nine and a half foot blade or something

2479
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,679
like that. And

2480
01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:53,199
um and it's but it's still a dozer. It's

2481
01:48:53,199 --> 01:48:56,800
a onepurpose machine

2482
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,760
strictly to push I mean that's all

2483
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,480
dozers do is push dirt. Um, so,

2484
01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:08,960
uh, my thoughts are is and I called and

2485
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,400
talked to them and they're just like,

2486
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,000
well, that's what the road department

2487
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,560
said they wanted, you know, kind of

2488
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,480
that's what they needed to do these

2489
01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:21,520
roads and stuff. And so, um, and and I

2490
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,520
also

2491
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,040
do 80 miles of road and we're going to

2492
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,199
smooth them out so they're our older

2493
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:29,360
people aren't getting beat up so much.

2494
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,199
So, I have a little bit of the same

2495
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:34,080
heartache with that they're just going

2496
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,159
to take 80 miles of two tracks and turn

2497
01:49:36,159 --> 01:49:39,920
them into nice smooth roads. Um, but my

2498
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,080
main thing was is I don't think it's the

2499
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:45,199
appropriate piece of equipment.

2500
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:49,119
um they can buy

2501
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:51,760
uh for our trail crew a couple years

2502
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,600
back, we picked a we bought a a skid

2503
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,239
steer that's roughly the same size, same

2504
01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:02,000
horsepower. It's about 120,000 and it's

2505
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,119
way more versatile. You can get a little

2506
01:50:05,119 --> 01:50:07,679
dozer blade. You have buckets, forks,

2507
01:50:07,679 --> 01:50:09,840
grater attachments.

2508
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,040
Um, and

2509
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:18,159
uh and I think I think that would I'm

2510
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:21,679
okay with this grant. If they would buy

2511
01:50:21,679 --> 01:50:24,560
uh look at buying a skid steer and some

2512
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,320
attachments,

2513
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,719
I think it would be a lot better, more

2514
01:50:28,719 --> 01:50:31,600
versatile machine and get it to places

2515
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:32,800
easier.

2516
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:37,600
Um, it moves around. You know, I just

2517
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,560
don't think a dozer's the right piece of

2518
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,320
equipment. And I talked to I can't

2519
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:45,679
remember his name like Elmer or

2520
01:50:45,679 --> 01:50:48,719
uh the the I think it was the Forest

2521
01:50:48,719 --> 01:50:50,239
Service

2522
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:53,920
guy and and and and suggested that to

2523
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:57,040
him and he was like, "Yeah, that that

2524
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,080
would work." you know, cuz they need a a

2525
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,159
bigger than a trail dozer, but but they

2526
01:51:02,159 --> 01:51:08,239
need a but but that skid steer um a

2527
01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:10,400
bigger skid steer would would do

2528
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,520
everything they needed to do uh and

2529
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:18,000
more. And so I would I mean my my

2530
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,119
suggestion on this would be to fund fund

2531
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:23,119
it at like

2532
01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:24,800
150

2533
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,440
uh thousand or something like that.

2534
01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:32,639
and have them buy a a skid steer uh a

2535
01:51:32,639 --> 01:51:36,320
comparable skid steer to that dozer.

2536
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:39,920
>> Um and from what I hear, I think they'd

2537
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:43,520
be okay with that. So,

2538
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,280
>> one one of the things Thanks, Mike. One

2539
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,880
of the things that I did notice on this

2540
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:48,320
application, they didn't have any

2541
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:52,239
support letters from OV groups. Um, so

2542
01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:55,760
it it looks like this is

2543
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,280
more or less a county just trying to get

2544
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,960
a piece of equipment to do a do whatever

2545
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,520
on any of their roads, which they said

2546
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,520
that they are using B-roll funds and

2547
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,679
they essentially will be using it on

2548
01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:10,320
B-ros, which is not necessarily like

2549
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:11,920
what Scott brought up earlier, that's

2550
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:21,040
not necessarily a bad thing. Um, but it just seems like um cost for the

2551
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,920
number of miles of trail that they say

2552
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,199
that they're going to maintain with it

2553
01:52:25,199 --> 01:52:29,840
is pretty high. Um, and so that that's

2554
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:31,599
my input on it. Dave, you've got your

2555
01:52:31,599 --> 01:52:33,840
hand up.

2556
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,599
>> Yeah, I just wondered if the forest

2557
01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:37,760
there has a trail dozer. you know, if

2558
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,520
there's another way to maintain trails

2559
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:41,760
on their smaller stuff. This is only

2560
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,760
going to be good for their roads versus

2561
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,880
their 50-inch or, you know, 62 inch

2562
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:48,560
whatever trails. Just wondered if

2563
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:50,480
anybody has that information.

2564
01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:54,239
>> Um, I do actually. Sorry, Nicole. Um,

2565
01:52:54,239 --> 01:52:57,040
uh, the

2566
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,880
Wade, what was his name that I talked

2567
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:00,639
to? Um,

2568
01:53:00,639 --> 01:53:03,199
>> his name is Kevin Christensen.

2569
01:53:03,199 --> 01:53:06,159
>> Yeah. know the other guy at the forest

2570
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:07,840
that

2571
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,960
>> Oh, was it was it it was Myron Jeffs is

2572
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,800
who you talked to in the meeting. Mike

2573
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,119
and I had a meeting with Myron.

2574
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:18,400
>> Yeah. And and he and and they're talking

2575
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,119
about the forest roads up there and and

2576
01:53:21,119 --> 01:53:23,280
that's what he said when I made that

2577
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:24,880
suggestion about a skid steer. He was

2578
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:26,480
just like, "Well, we have a trail dozer

2579
01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:28,480
and a little mini X and everything to do

2580
01:53:28,480 --> 01:53:31,280
those 50-inch trails." And when I made

2581
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,320
it clear I was talking about a bigger

2582
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,679
skid steer with like an 8ft dozer blade

2583
01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:39,599
uh you know a bigger skid steer he was

2584
01:53:39,599 --> 01:53:41,360
like oh yeah that would do what we need

2585
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:47,440
to do and and um so so they are looking

2586
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:50,800
for something that to handle the

2587
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,360
maintenance of the the wider roads not

2588
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,080
necessarily the 50inch trails you know

2589
01:53:56,080 --> 01:54:02,400
the wider two tracks and stuff and and the pictures had big mud holes

2590
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,360
and everything, but and and I think a

2591
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:08,080
skid steer would be the ideal piece of

2592
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,480
machinery to fix those mud holes, do

2593
01:54:10,480 --> 01:54:12,239
that kind of spot maintenance that's

2594
01:54:12,239 --> 01:54:15,599
needed versus just drop a blade on the

2595
01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:18,960
whole 80 miles of road.

2596
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,199
So,

2597
01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:23,920
>> Mike, what would be the

2598
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:26,560
>> pros and cons of having a midsize Minia

2599
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,000
X with a sixway blade on it? Uh, is

2600
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:37,040
there some pros and cons of having a a a Mini X as opposed to a skidster with,

2601
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:40,239
you know, with a sixeight blade on it?

2602
01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:44,719
Um, I think the only the pro to a skid

2603
01:54:44,719 --> 01:54:49,440
steer um would be a little bit more

2604
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,520
versatile. You can get a bunch of

2605
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,000
different attachments to the skid steer

2606
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:57,360
where a Mini X I mean a Mini X is

2607
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,199
awesome and they you can do about

2608
01:54:59,199 --> 01:55:02,080
anything with it. It would do it's a

2609
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,960
little slower to get into places if you

2610
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:09,119
have to road it. Uh, you know, a skid

2611
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:12,480
steer has buckets and you can get back

2612
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,679
attachments and with all the attachments

2613
01:55:15,679 --> 01:55:16,480
on it. But

2614
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,119
>> so would this be a wheeled skidster or a

2615
01:55:19,119 --> 01:55:20,639
track skidster?

2616
01:55:20,639 --> 01:55:27,270
>> I'd buy the tracked skid steer.

2617
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,360
» And my question was pointed at you,

2618
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,880
Mike. Would 150,000 for a skid steer get

2619
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,639
them the attachments they need to or

2620
01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:37,280
would they still need that full 200,000

2621
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:39,760
to get sort of the attachments that they

2622
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:40,880
need?

2623
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,320
>> Um, if if I remember right, I think our

2624
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,800
skid steer now it's been a few years. It

2625
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,679
was like 115,000

2626
01:55:49,679 --> 01:55:52,000
or something like that. And so that

2627
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:55,520
should give them enough to get I I think

2628
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:57,599
those dozer blades run in the5 to

2629
01:55:57,599 --> 01:55:59,360
$8,000.

2630
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,639
Um so that would get them a bucket

2631
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:06,159
probably forks a dozer blade, you know,

2632
01:56:06,159 --> 01:56:07,760
for a little bit more. I mean, I

2633
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:09,440
wouldn't even care if we went to like

2634
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,599
175,000 or something like that, you

2635
01:56:11,599 --> 01:56:15,280
know. Um,

2636
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,159
just to give it some

2637
01:56:18,159 --> 01:56:21,360
>> What if we kind of

2638
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,360
like said we would fund it, but kind of

2639
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:26,320
put the caveat back on them that they

2640
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,320
the road department really needs to talk

2641
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,159
with the Forest Service and decide which

2642
01:56:30,159 --> 01:56:33,920
piece of equipment is the right one, you

2643
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,760
know, for them to work in partnership

2644
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,080
together the best and then kind of leave

2645
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:41,920
it to them to decide together. I I think

2646
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,400
Nicole that that Myer and Jeff did kind

2647
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,560
of say that after Mike talked to him

2648
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:49,840
that I think that he was very on board

2649
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,639
with the skidster rather than the dozer.

2650
01:56:52,639 --> 01:56:56,960
>> And did we talk to the county? Are they okay with that switch?

2651
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:02,800
>> Um, no. We did not talk with with Kevin.

2652
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,280
Well, that's my issue, too, is kind of

2653
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:09,040
to Eric's point earlier that the they

2654
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:10,719
know what they need for what they're

2655
01:57:10,719 --> 01:57:11,920
using it for. They're going to be

2656
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,320
splitting it between their roads, um,

2657
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,400
their other roads and this 80 miles of

2658
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,800
trail, and they might need it for

2659
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:21,040
something bigger than this 80 miles of

2660
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,960
trail. But if they're bringing money to

2661
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:26,639
the table for their roads and it will

2662
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:28,800
just so happen to work on this trail, I

2663
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,520
don't know that we necessarily have

2664
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,320
the say on what what the best pieces of

2665
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:38,159
equipment is for them. Um I I think to

2666
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:41,119
me the bigger issue is there's no

2667
01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:45,280
collaboration with an OBV group and

2668
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,000
um it's a lot of money for how many

2669
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:53,510
miles of trail they're lifting.

2670
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,599
And I think I'm I'm okay with this, but

2671
01:57:55,599 --> 01:57:57,520
I would like kind of like Jason just

2672
01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:59,440
said, you know, they kind of know what

2673
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,520
they need. Maybe they haven't thought

2674
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,280
about this, so you know, kind of fund

2675
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:05,119
it, but put that caveat that they need

2676
01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:07,360
to have that communication and have that

2677
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,520
conversation before they buy that piece

2678
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,760
of equipment.

2679
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:13,760
>> Hey Wade, have you have a conversation

2680
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,560
with you say Brett Christensen? Is that

2681
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:18,639
the person?

2682
01:58:18,639 --> 01:58:20,560
Have you had a conversation with him

2683
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:23,119
about the usage of that piece of

2684
01:58:23,119 --> 01:58:26,320
equipment and their need?

2685
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:29,040
>> Yeah. Um

2686
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:32,960
they the the original need when I talked

2687
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:35,760
to them, the original need was to get um

2688
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:39,199
a 50-inch trail cat. And when they went

2689
01:58:39,199 --> 01:58:41,119
to the Forest Service, the Forest

2690
01:58:41,119 --> 01:58:44,080
Service told the county or yeah, when I

2691
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,159
refer to county, that's Kevin. Kevin is

2692
01:58:46,159 --> 01:58:50,639
San Pete County. Um they said the bigger

2693
01:58:50,639 --> 01:58:54,080
need is for these class 2 roads that are

2694
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:57,280
part of the Arapene trail system. The 66

2695
01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:02,159
and below 66 in the Manti for said we're

2696
01:59:02,159 --> 01:59:05,360
pretty confident in getting those done.

2697
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,280
But they said there's those roads that

2698
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,599
fall in between

2699
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:12,960
the 66 in trails and the main county

2700
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,199
roads or the main forest service roads.

2701
01:59:15,199 --> 01:59:17,440
They're called class 2 forest service

2702
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,320
roads. Those receive absolutely zero

2703
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:22,800
maintenance. The forest service does not

2704
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:25,280
have the manpower to do it and those are

2705
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:27,040
not considered even though they're part

2706
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,280
of the Aropene trail system, they are

2707
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:31,679
not considered a trail because they are

2708
01:59:31,679 --> 01:59:35,040
wider than 66 in. So there's this little

2709
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,119
gray area that's fallen through that

2710
01:59:37,119 --> 01:59:39,119
that's where the when they went to the

2711
01:59:39,119 --> 01:59:40,960
Forest Service and said we wanted that

2712
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:42,800
50-inch Waco, they said we wouldn't

2713
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,440
support it, but we would support you

2714
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:49,280
with something to maintain those level

2715
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,840
two roads. And Mike was in on that

2716
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:53,440
conversation

2717
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:55,599
um that we had with the Forest Service

2718
01:59:55,599 --> 01:59:57,760
on that. So that's why it went from a

2719
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,679
trail cat to more a bigger piece of

2720
02:00:01,679 --> 02:00:10,790
equipment.

2721
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:12,880
Eric, go ahead.

2722
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:14,880
I love to extend these conversations,

2723
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:19,270
especially where it's my last night.

2724
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,840
Just kidding. So,

2725
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:23,760
I, as we're all aware, these machines

2726
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,960
are getting bigger and bigger, and I am,

2727
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,080
as much as anybody, I'm not a fan of

2728
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,400
making stuff easier.

2729
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,719
or necessarily more comfortable, but

2730
02:00:34,719 --> 02:00:37,360
there is issues

2731
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,400
on these roads. And really, if you think

2732
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:42,960
about it, we spend quite a bit of time

2733
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,920
on these class 2 roads. When you're up

2734
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,000
the canyon, you are going back and

2735
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,280
forth. You're going down old fire roads,

2736
02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:53,520
you know, old logging roads. I mean,

2737
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:56,480
it's a lot of times it's this little bit

2738
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:00,239
bigger road and it's already a road. So,

2739
02:01:00,239 --> 02:01:01,840
I don't know that they're going to be

2740
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,840
hurting it too much, but there is

2741
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:06,960
there's drainage drainage issues a lot

2742
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,280
and they do need to be maintained. And I

2743
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:12,560
can see how, you know, you you see where

2744
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:14,400
they've used a trail cat on these bigger

2745
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:15,920
roads and you're just going, "Man, I bet

2746
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:18,000
that was miserable, you know, bringing

2747
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:20,080
that in and doing all this work on with

2748
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,480
just a little 50-inch trail dozer." But

2749
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:25,440
anyways, that's that's my thought. I I I

2750
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,119
support them with whatever they think

2751
02:01:27,119 --> 02:01:28,800
they need.

2752
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,599
Um, I I think this is a good use of

2753
02:01:31,599 --> 02:01:34,960
money. It's the area gets used like

2754
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,199
crazy. If these guys are all going to

2755
02:01:37,199 --> 02:01:39,520
play nicely together and work together,

2756
02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:41,199
let's give them the tools to do it

2757
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:46,709
whatever they think they need.

2758
02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:50,149
» Thanks, Eric.

2759
02:01:50,159 --> 02:01:54,709
Okay, let's go ahead and vote on it.

2760
02:01:54,719 --> 02:01:56,880
» Uh, quick question. Are we just voting

2761
02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:59,040
straight like yes or no on the funding

2762
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:02,080
or is this could the funding be used for

2763
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,639
the um machine that Mike was talking

2764
02:02:04,639 --> 02:02:08,080
about or the the one that's here in the

2765
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:13,350
proposal in front of us?

2766
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:15,679
» Um

2767
02:02:15,679 --> 02:02:17,520
I'll make a motion.

2768
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:19,360
>> Yeah, go ahead, Eric.

2769
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:22,239
So, I make a motion that Evan reaches

2770
02:02:22,239 --> 02:02:26,719
out and Maren to look and see if they

2771
02:02:26,719 --> 02:02:28,719
can rewrite the contract a little bit to

2772
02:02:28,719 --> 02:02:32,159
leave it up to them to find the best

2773
02:02:32,159 --> 02:02:34,400
um equipment they can for the best price

2774
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:37,520
they can that's less than what we're

2775
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:40,950
going to approve.

2776
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:42,880
» Is that too long of a motion?

2777
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,040
>> Probably.

2778
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:47,280
But I think I think to sum up what has

2779
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,800
been talked about is that they work with

2780
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,920
the Forest Service and a local group to

2781
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,040
identify what the best piece of

2782
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:54,239
equipment is.

2783
02:02:54,239 --> 02:02:56,639
>> I love it.

2784
02:02:56,639 --> 02:02:58,800
>> And I can support that.

2785
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,040
>> Okay.

2786
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:03,679
>> It it might be best to name the specific

2787
02:03:03,679 --> 02:03:09,270
stakeholders you'd like to see involved.

2788
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:11,760
What are the OV groups in uh San Pi

2789
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:12,639
County? That would

2790
02:03:12,639 --> 02:03:14,719
>> I would uh recommend the Castle Country

2791
02:03:14,719 --> 02:03:19,199
OV group. They're the Manti. Um and that

2792
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:21,599
Rome West, we already seen a letter of

2793
02:03:21,599 --> 02:03:23,119
support from them on another

2794
02:03:23,119 --> 02:03:24,880
application.

2795
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:29,280
Um that's a nonprofit out of Ephraim,

2796
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:30,960
but I think the bigger club would be

2797
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,119
Castle Country. So, if we could put both

2798
02:03:33,119 --> 02:03:34,719
in there, that would be great. But if

2799
02:03:34,719 --> 02:03:36,400
you picked one or the other, Marine, not

2800
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,719
to confuse it, Castle Country OV is the

2801
02:03:38,719 --> 02:03:41,440
one I'd recommend.

2802
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,679
>> Okay. And then have them coordinate with

2803
02:03:43,679 --> 02:03:45,360
the Forest Service.

2804
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:52,629
>> Yeah.

2805
02:03:52,639 --> 02:03:56,239
» Okay. Does that work for everybody?

2806
02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:58,880
>> I'm good with that.

2807
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:00,400
>> Cool. Let's go ahead and vote on this

2808
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:05,119
then. Um I think Brett already left.

2809
02:04:05,119 --> 02:04:08,080
Uh, we'll go with

2810
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:09,599
Rodie.

2811
02:04:09,599 --> 02:04:12,080
>> Yes.

2812
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:13,280
>> Eric,

2813
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,679
>> yes.

2814
02:04:15,679 --> 02:04:17,360
>> Uh, Mike,

2815
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:18,400
>> yes.

2816
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:19,679
>> Nicole,

2817
02:04:19,679 --> 02:04:20,480
>> yes.

2818
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:21,920
>> Russ,

2819
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:22,880
>> yes.

2820
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:24,320
>> Scott,

2821
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:25,280
>> yes.

2822
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:28,800
>> And all vote yes as well.

2823
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:31,840
Okay, last one on the list is the Utah

2824
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:34,560
Avalanche Center.

2825
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:38,149
forecasting.

2826
02:04:38,159 --> 02:04:40,639
Any other discussion on this one or do

2827
02:04:40,639 --> 02:04:42,480
we want to vote on Oh, Mike's got his

2828
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:44,960
hand up. Imagine that. I have something

2829
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:49,199
to say. Um, yeah, I I'd vote to fund

2830
02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:54,320
this without the ambassador part. Um,

2831
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:56,719
let me pull that budget up for you

2832
02:04:56,719 --> 02:05:00,400
>> that we take that ambassador

2833
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:08,950
position out of it.

2834
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:17,669
I was concerned about that also.

2835
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:20,239
So that would take out both the

2836
02:05:20,239 --> 02:05:22,239
ambassador

2837
02:05:22,239 --> 02:05:24,719
um wages and the materials. Is that

2838
02:05:24,719 --> 02:05:27,119
right?

2839
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:34,229
>> Yes.

2840
02:05:34,239 --> 02:05:38,000
but leave the forecasting.

2841
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,000
So, we've got it sounds like we've got a

2842
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,159
motion from Mike

2843
02:05:42,159 --> 02:05:46,080
and a second by Scott.

2844
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:47,280
Is that right?

2845
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:50,159
>> Yes.

2846
02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:52,719
Um,

2847
02:05:52,719 --> 02:05:57,040
let's all those in favor of voting on it

2848
02:05:57,040 --> 02:06:01,040
with the reduced budget say I.

2849
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:04,960
>> I.

2850
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:08,390
Any opposed?

2851
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,639
Okay. Let's go ahead and vote on it with

2852
02:06:10,639 --> 02:06:14,320
this revised budget. Um, we'll start

2853
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:17,280
with

2854
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:22,000
Well, let's see. We'll start with Mike.

2855
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,320
>> Yes.

2856
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:25,360
>> Nicole,

2857
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:27,199
>> yes.

2858
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:28,560
>> Russ,

2859
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:29,599
>> yes.

2860
02:06:29,599 --> 02:06:31,119
>> Scott,

2861
02:06:31,119 --> 02:06:32,560
>> yes.

2862
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:34,320
>> Uh, Brody,

2863
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:36,000
>> yes.

2864
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:39,520
>> And we'll finish it with Eric.

2865
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:42,639
>> Sweet. Yes.

2866
02:06:42,639 --> 02:06:44,880
All right.

2867
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:46,800
>> And I'll I guess I'll vote yes as well.

2868
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,800
Sorry.

2869
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:51,187
>> Still my thunder, man.

2870
02:06:51,187 --> 02:06:53,589
[laughter]

2871
02:06:53,599 --> 02:06:56,560
» Okay. Looks like that's awesome. Do you

2872
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:58,239
have a summary for us, Evan, of what's

2873
02:06:58,239 --> 02:06:59,119
been

2874
02:06:59,119 --> 02:07:00,719
>> Yeah. Let me just give me one second

2875
02:07:00,719 --> 02:07:03,119
here. I'm pulling up for you guys.

2876
02:07:03,119 --> 02:07:05,360
>> Super quick math.

2877
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,119
>> So, I can give you just the the math

2878
02:07:07,119 --> 02:07:08,159
real quick. I was going to try to pull

2879
02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:10,159
up my my fancy thing here, but uh so as

2880
02:07:10,159 --> 02:07:12,560
of now, that would put the total awarded

2881
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:17,109
amount at 842,834.

2882
02:07:17,119 --> 02:07:24,149
Uh that leaves a balance ofund 100,732.

2883
02:07:24,159 --> 02:07:25,040
» Awesome.

2884
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:29,510
>> Which would again, you know, roll over.

2885
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:32,000
» Okay.

2886
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,079
Um,

2887
02:07:34,079 --> 02:07:36,320
do we need a final vote to move this

2888
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:38,719
list forward or is that are we good with

2889
02:07:38,719 --> 02:07:41,840
how it is?

2890
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:45,520
>> If everybody feels good.

2891
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:48,800
>> Awesome. Well, thank you everybody uh

2892
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:52,079
for your time tonight. It was uh

2893
02:07:52,079 --> 02:07:54,239
it was good discussions and good

2894
02:07:54,239 --> 02:07:56,079
questions asked. We sure appreciate

2895
02:07:56,079 --> 02:07:59,199
everybody. And uh we'll let uh Eric give

2896
02:07:59,199 --> 02:08:03,830
us his parting words,

2897
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:06,719
the closing prayer.

2898
02:08:06,719 --> 02:08:09,199
Sweet. No, I just want I [clears throat]

2899
02:08:09,199 --> 02:08:11,199
want you to know how much I've really

2900
02:08:11,199 --> 02:08:12,880
appreciated doing this. You guys know

2901
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:14,400
I'm

2902
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:18,800
pretty passionate about land use and and

2903
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:20,480
how we're spending our money and and

2904
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:22,320
I've got all the faith in the world in

2905
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,199
this current group moving forward. Um,

2906
02:08:25,199 --> 02:08:26,880
if you guys ever have any questions

2907
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:29,199
about what's happened in the past or

2908
02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:31,360
anything like that, you guys are always

2909
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:34,639
more than welcome to to hit me up. I

2910
02:08:34,639 --> 02:08:37,760
might even maybe attend and cat call

2911
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:40,560
from the from the cheap seats sometimes

2912
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:45,840
just to make sure the conversations are going well. But no, appreciate all

2913
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:47,760
you guys. Thanks for the opportunity.

2914
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:51,199
Uh, I love the program and uh I like to

2915
02:08:51,199 --> 02:08:53,119
see where it's going lately. So, thanks

2916
02:08:53,119 --> 02:08:55,360
guys.

2917
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:57,280
I'm gonna miss you, Eric, on it because

2918
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:59,280
I I know that you're passionate. I can

2919
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,119
tell and so I always listen to what you

2920
02:09:01,119 --> 02:09:03,119
had to say really intently. So, I'm

2921
02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:05,119
going to miss you on here.

2922
02:09:05,119 --> 02:09:08,079
>> Well, thank you.

2923
02:09:08,079 --> 02:09:10,960
>> Hey, and Eric, stop hanging out with old

2924
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,040
people.

2925
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:16,560
>> See what I can do. Thanks, Scott.

2926
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:20,639
>> Um, Rachel had a hand up.

2927
02:09:20,639 --> 02:09:23,760
>> Yeah. Well, also Eric is trying to not

2928
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:24,880
hang out with old people. That's why

2929
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:28,639
he's leaving this committee.

2930
02:09:28,639 --> 02:09:31,009
>> So,

2931
02:09:31,009 --> 02:09:33,199
[clears throat] but yeah, I just want to

2932
02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:35,440
kind of give provide some highlights for

2933
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:37,840
our next grant meeting. I sent an email

2934
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:40,400
out to everyone. So, just a quick update

2935
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:43,040
on because Eric is leaving us and then

2936
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:46,000
so is Kirk. Um, we're going to be

2937
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:47,760
opening up two advisory council

2938
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,480
positions. Those applications will go

2939
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:54,320
out in on May 7th and it'll close May

2940
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:56,880
31st at 5:00 pm. And then our next

2941
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,280
council meeting will be virtual from

2942
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:03,199
5:30 to 7:30 and that will take place on

2943
02:10:03,199 --> 02:10:06,560
Wednesday, June 17th. So, everyone

2944
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:08,560
should have received an email from me

2945
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:10,560
during this meeting. So, if anyone has

2946
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:12,960
any questions, please let me know. But

2947
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:14,560
again, Eric, thank you so much. And I

2948
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:16,000
know Kirk's not here, but I just want to

2949
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,440
thank him as well. You guys have done a

2950
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,760
phenomenal job and I know we've put you

2951
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:24,310
through the ringer and we appreciate it.

2952
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:26,400
» Thanks. We'll miss you.

2953
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:27,040
>> Yeah.

2954
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:28,480
>> Thanks, Eric.

2955
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:32,149
>> Yep.

2956
02:10:32,159 --> 02:10:35,840
» Okay. Well, thank you everybody. Um,

2957
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:37,520
with that, I think we'll call that a

2958
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:40,079
wrap and uh we'll entertain a motion to

2959
02:10:40,079 --> 02:10:42,000
adjurnn.

2960
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,719
>> Uh, can I make that motion?

2961
02:10:44,719 --> 02:10:46,480
>> You betcha.

2962
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:48,560
I'd like to make a motion to adjourn

2963
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:53,510
this meeting tonight.

2964
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:55,599
» Motion made by Eric.

2965
02:10:55,599 --> 02:10:57,599
>> I'll second.

2966
02:10:57,599 --> 02:11:03,510
>> We are adjourned. Eric, cheers.

2967
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:04,960
» Awesome. Thanks, Eric. And thank you

2968
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:06,400
everybody for just being a part of this.

2969
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,719
Really appreciate all the input. See you

2970
02:11:08,719 --> 02:11:11,719
guys.