1 00:00:02,275 --> 00:00:03,325 Good evening and welcome 2 00:00:03,385 --> 00:00:07,125 to the April 16th, 2026 Town Council budget meeting. 3 00:00:08,795 --> 00:00:11,405 Just a reminder, exits are to the back of the room 4 00:00:11,465 --> 00:00:12,925 and to the side in emergency 5 00:00:13,505 --> 00:00:14,765 and we will start 6 00:00:14,765 --> 00:00:17,565 with the pledge Counselor Mills, will you use in the pledge please? 7 00:00:20,245 --> 00:00:21,605 I Pledge allegiance to the flag. 8 00:00:21,755 --> 00:00:25,005 Flag of the United States States, America, Republic, 9 00:00:29,675 --> 00:00:31,645 Liberty and Justice Pearl. 10 00:00:34,275 --> 00:00:37,485 Alright, we'll do a quick roll call this evening. 11 00:00:38,085 --> 00:00:41,125 Councilor Mills, good evening, Councillor Webb. 12 00:00:41,195 --> 00:00:42,565 Good evening, Councillor Flood. 13 00:00:42,565 --> 00:00:44,325 Good evening, Councillor Foot. Good evening. 14 00:00:44,925 --> 00:00:47,965 Good evening from the chair and Councilor Healy 15 00:00:48,025 --> 00:00:51,005 and Councillor Chase are unable to join us this evening 16 00:00:51,185 --> 00:00:53,805 but have said they will both catch up 17 00:00:53,805 --> 00:00:55,165 and if they have any questions for all of you, 18 00:00:55,165 --> 00:00:56,365 they'll let us know. 19 00:00:57,275 --> 00:01:00,085 Alright, I am going to turn it over to 20 00:01:00,725 --> 00:01:02,165 Mr. Fowler and we'll get things going. 21 00:01:02,475 --> 00:01:03,725 Alright, good evening. 22 00:01:03,785 --> 00:01:05,165 So welcome to night two 23 00:01:05,185 --> 00:01:08,045 of our fiscal 27 budget presentations tonight. 24 00:01:08,065 --> 00:01:11,565 We have kind of cornucopia of different departments here. 25 00:01:12,305 --> 00:01:15,805 So with no further ado, we'll start out 26 00:01:15,835 --> 00:01:17,645 with the Community development 27 00:01:17,645 --> 00:01:19,125 Department economic development. 28 00:01:19,505 --> 00:01:21,365 Bev Donovan coming to the podium. 29 00:01:35,105 --> 00:01:37,235 Good evening. Good evening. Can you hear 30 00:01:37,235 --> 00:01:38,235 Me? 31 00:01:38,955 --> 00:01:39,955 I can. I don't know if everything 32 00:01:39,955 --> 00:01:40,915 You're good. 33 00:01:40,915 --> 00:01:43,915 Okay. Hi, my name is Bev Donovan, 34 00:01:43,915 --> 00:01:45,915 dairy Economic Development for those at home. 35 00:01:49,555 --> 00:01:53,195 I always, I always do this too quick tonight. 36 00:01:53,195 --> 00:01:54,635 I'm just gonna go over a few 37 00:01:54,635 --> 00:01:55,995 of the highlights from last year 38 00:01:56,135 --> 00:01:59,675 and then talk a little bit about some of the goals 39 00:01:59,775 --> 00:02:00,915 for the year ahead. 40 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:07,195 So starting with 2026 highlights, 41 00:02:07,345 --> 00:02:09,075 long awaited projects Underway. 42 00:02:09,225 --> 00:02:13,515 Completed include the Abbott Court redevelopment, which is 43 00:02:14,135 --> 00:02:15,635 got a big hole in the ground right now. 44 00:02:15,655 --> 00:02:16,995 If you walk down Merchants Road, 45 00:02:17,015 --> 00:02:19,635 you can take a look at the Common Man. 46 00:02:19,675 --> 00:02:21,035 Roadside is up and running. 47 00:02:22,895 --> 00:02:25,435 The Keystone Project on Rockingham Road 48 00:02:26,175 --> 00:02:30,555 is the final buildings are being completed now 49 00:02:31,495 --> 00:02:34,315 and a couple of them are already occupied. 50 00:02:35,455 --> 00:02:39,395 And Ashley Drive, which would complete the industrial park 51 00:02:40,705 --> 00:02:43,755 with the last parcel at the end of the cul-de-sac. 52 00:02:44,775 --> 00:02:47,915 Not announced yet, but there is negotiation going on there. 53 00:02:49,435 --> 00:02:53,475 Tracking status of about 150 different commercial 54 00:02:53,475 --> 00:02:54,595 properties and units. 55 00:02:56,105 --> 00:02:59,115 With the current rises in construction costs 56 00:02:59,225 --> 00:03:00,325 and access to capital, 57 00:03:00,815 --> 00:03:04,365 there are headwinds going into fiscal year 2027 58 00:03:04,545 --> 00:03:05,605 for new projects. 59 00:03:07,005 --> 00:03:09,205 Multi-agency collaboration continues 60 00:03:09,205 --> 00:03:11,565 with the New Hampshire Small Business Development Center. 61 00:03:12,325 --> 00:03:14,245 This year we held a financing workshop 62 00:03:17,105 --> 00:03:19,525 and several events 63 00:03:19,595 --> 00:03:21,605 with the Greater Dairy London Area Chamber, 64 00:03:23,525 --> 00:03:24,925 participating in the State of the Union 65 00:03:25,555 --> 00:03:30,325 legislative policy events, cyborg Cares statewide mixer. 66 00:03:30,325 --> 00:03:33,485 That's when all the, the statewide brokers come to dairy. 67 00:03:33,485 --> 00:03:38,245 It's a great event. The Regional Economic De Development 68 00:03:38,245 --> 00:03:40,285 Center said committee, 69 00:03:40,975 --> 00:03:43,245 which is our regional transportation plan 70 00:03:43,425 --> 00:03:45,165 and economic development plan. 71 00:03:46,345 --> 00:03:50,685 And we actually just hosted them here yesterday at CAS 72 00:03:50,685 --> 00:03:52,245 and Vine and did a little tour downtown. 73 00:03:52,305 --> 00:03:55,525 So it was great having all those regional 74 00:03:56,615 --> 00:03:59,405 colleagues come and find out about dairy 75 00:03:59,465 --> 00:04:01,685 and learn about some of the things that we're doing here. 76 00:04:04,015 --> 00:04:07,885 Let's see. Continue to promote dairy as live work, 77 00:04:07,915 --> 00:04:09,645 play destination through social media 78 00:04:10,275 --> 00:04:12,045 walk score partnerships 79 00:04:12,045 --> 00:04:16,125 with New Hampshire State Council on the arts in interaction 80 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:19,085 with various media outlets and community events. 81 00:04:20,445 --> 00:04:21,965 Strengthening workforce readiness 82 00:04:22,445 --> 00:04:24,565 with the Greater Dairy London Dairy Chamber. 83 00:04:25,355 --> 00:04:28,005 This year, partnering on Business Edu, 84 00:04:28,645 --> 00:04:30,605 business Education Collaborative, we're, 85 00:04:30,615 --> 00:04:34,205 we're piloting an interview contest which wrapped up today 86 00:04:34,745 --> 00:04:37,845 and that is open to all high school students in the area. 87 00:04:39,385 --> 00:04:42,125 And then in May we'll be hosting the second 88 00:04:42,145 --> 00:04:44,525 annual teen job fair. 89 00:04:44,915 --> 00:04:48,365 Also, last year I think we had over 400 students attend that 90 00:04:49,345 --> 00:04:52,325 and this year we have more companies that are coming in 91 00:04:52,325 --> 00:04:53,965 to hire our teens for summer jobs. 92 00:04:54,065 --> 00:04:56,965 So that's a great, great thing that, 93 00:04:57,035 --> 00:04:58,525 that we get to do with the chamber. 94 00:05:00,695 --> 00:05:03,485 Let's see. Collaborated on the economic development, 95 00:05:03,485 --> 00:05:05,645 legislative and state of the state events 96 00:05:06,625 --> 00:05:09,965 and continued discussions with post-secondary 97 00:05:11,235 --> 00:05:15,205 educational outlets for opportunities for those students 98 00:05:15,235 --> 00:05:17,325 that graduate without a plan 99 00:05:17,465 --> 00:05:20,125 but still wanna get into the workforce a couple years 100 00:05:20,135 --> 00:05:21,685 after they've left Pinkerton 101 00:05:22,465 --> 00:05:23,885 or next or wherever they went to. 102 00:05:26,295 --> 00:05:29,765 Let's see, next page. Alright. 103 00:05:30,835 --> 00:05:33,525 Also in 2026, continued partnership 104 00:05:33,525 --> 00:05:34,925 with the Greater Dairy Arts Council 105 00:05:35,025 --> 00:05:38,805 to enhance the Opera House facility to grow programming 106 00:05:38,805 --> 00:05:40,805 that benefits downtown economy. 107 00:05:41,935 --> 00:05:45,405 Coordinate on several public arts committee projects 108 00:05:45,465 --> 00:05:47,885 and events to drive cultural tourism, 109 00:05:48,475 --> 00:05:52,925 including this year we hosted the statewide Poetry Out Loud 110 00:05:52,995 --> 00:05:55,685 competition, which was a fun event. 111 00:05:57,415 --> 00:05:59,885 Continuous monitoring of key economic news 112 00:05:59,885 --> 00:06:02,485 and trends relative to banking, investment, 113 00:06:02,485 --> 00:06:06,045 commercial real estate, housing, supply chain workforce 114 00:06:06,705 --> 00:06:09,525 and demographic shifts to offer practical insight 115 00:06:09,525 --> 00:06:12,885 and recommendations on local economic development issues. 116 00:06:15,035 --> 00:06:17,205 Ongoing facilitation of business growth 117 00:06:17,205 --> 00:06:19,645 through vari various programming network 118 00:06:20,225 --> 00:06:23,445 and re resource opportunities including the facade 119 00:06:23,515 --> 00:06:25,125 improvement project. 120 00:06:26,425 --> 00:06:29,445 And dairy continues to see robust change of use activity. 121 00:06:30,245 --> 00:06:31,885 Although there is a slow down this year, 122 00:06:31,885 --> 00:06:36,005 we're a little bit off and there is definitely a noticeable, 123 00:06:36,075 --> 00:06:39,085 some noticeable trepidation in startup initiatives. 124 00:06:39,305 --> 00:06:42,045 People are holding back a little bit on the startups. 125 00:06:43,765 --> 00:06:47,845 Projects on Ashley Drive and SCOBY Pond Road are, and both A 126 00:06:47,845 --> 00:06:49,765 and B streets are expected to move forward 127 00:06:50,385 --> 00:06:53,965 and results in completion of both the industrial park 128 00:06:54,105 --> 00:06:55,525 and the Commerce Park areas. 129 00:06:56,345 --> 00:06:57,645 So that's pretty exciting. 130 00:06:58,065 --> 00:07:02,125 And then focus on FY 27, we'll shift to four a 131 00:07:03,205 --> 00:07:06,685 redevelopment downtown and Route 28 and one 11. 132 00:07:07,825 --> 00:07:12,245 So the main goals for 2027, get that up there. 133 00:07:13,475 --> 00:07:16,245 Continued identification and of development 134 00:07:16,245 --> 00:07:19,205 and redevelopment potential in anticipation 135 00:07:19,205 --> 00:07:21,685 of exit four a completion water 136 00:07:21,705 --> 00:07:23,965 and sewer expansion projects, public 137 00:07:24,065 --> 00:07:26,645 and private opportunities and stakeholder interest. 138 00:07:27,755 --> 00:07:29,925 Also enhance regional outreach, 139 00:07:30,095 --> 00:07:32,525 facilitate potential new projects and growth. 140 00:07:33,115 --> 00:07:35,165 Work closely with brokers 141 00:07:35,265 --> 00:07:37,245 to identify potential opportunities 142 00:07:37,865 --> 00:07:39,285 for languishing properties. 143 00:07:40,225 --> 00:07:42,725 Assist the planning board with zoning evaluation 144 00:07:43,025 --> 00:07:45,365 and provide insight into markets, demographics 145 00:07:45,865 --> 00:07:47,765 and trends that could impact 146 00:07:48,145 --> 00:07:50,885 and influence commercial tax-based growth. 147 00:07:51,865 --> 00:07:55,245 And finally, identify and collaborate on local, regional, 148 00:07:55,265 --> 00:07:57,205 and state for federal grants 149 00:07:57,265 --> 00:07:59,125 and programs to assist businesses 150 00:07:59,125 --> 00:08:01,205 and investors in financing goals 151 00:08:02,265 --> 00:08:05,405 to help ensure pipeline momentum. 152 00:08:07,425 --> 00:08:10,965 So that's a quick snapshot if anybody has any questions? 153 00:08:13,425 --> 00:08:15,125 Any questions? Councilor? 154 00:08:16,415 --> 00:08:18,805 Sorry, just one, I noticed 155 00:08:18,805 --> 00:08:21,245 that in your budget lines you don't have any, 156 00:08:21,945 --> 00:08:23,885 and I'm not gonna be putting anything in, 157 00:08:23,885 --> 00:08:26,045 but this is more maybe for future budget. 158 00:08:26,505 --> 00:08:28,685 Any ex expenditures for marketing? 159 00:08:33,715 --> 00:08:36,205 Well, Or they elsewhere in the budget, 160 00:08:38,145 --> 00:08:39,205 We didn't discuss that. 161 00:08:40,345 --> 00:08:44,005 And typically a lot of the, all the social media is free. 162 00:08:44,315 --> 00:08:49,085 Yeah. Press releases are free. Working with Owen is free. 163 00:08:49,225 --> 00:08:51,045 We try to be pretty 164 00:08:52,485 --> 00:08:54,285 fiscally responsible. 165 00:08:55,225 --> 00:08:57,965 And then if anything does arise from marketing, 166 00:08:59,455 --> 00:09:02,925 newspapers are kind of falling by the wayside. 167 00:09:02,925 --> 00:09:04,205 Right? Just things are shifting. 168 00:09:04,575 --> 00:09:06,645 There is money in other line items 169 00:09:06,715 --> 00:09:08,045 that could potentially shift. 170 00:09:08,045 --> 00:09:09,565 Like for office expense or 171 00:09:13,075 --> 00:09:14,095 Are there national events 172 00:09:14,095 --> 00:09:17,615 or national conferences that can be targeted in the future? 173 00:09:20,015 --> 00:09:22,255 I have gone to the ICSC events. 174 00:09:22,405 --> 00:09:24,255 I've, I've gone to some of the ones 175 00:09:24,255 --> 00:09:25,335 that are closer in Boston. 176 00:09:25,605 --> 00:09:26,775 I've been down to DC 177 00:09:27,395 --> 00:09:30,095 and what I find is for the product that we have here, 178 00:09:30,725 --> 00:09:34,535 it's really probably not of value to, 179 00:09:34,755 --> 00:09:36,375 to really go to those. 180 00:09:36,375 --> 00:09:40,295 Right. And we don't have a lot of large properties left 181 00:09:40,725 --> 00:09:41,775 that we are marketing. 182 00:09:41,805 --> 00:09:44,335 Yeah. So I, I think we're fine. 183 00:09:44,575 --> 00:09:45,975 I I don't think we need to do that. 184 00:09:47,775 --> 00:09:49,735 Personal outreach seems to work just as well. 185 00:09:51,955 --> 00:09:53,215 And the last question I have, 186 00:09:53,215 --> 00:09:55,135 because I get asked this probably three times a week. 187 00:09:55,165 --> 00:09:56,175 What about the grindhouse? 188 00:09:59,165 --> 00:10:00,655 It's still in the works. That's, 189 00:10:00,655 --> 00:10:02,255 that's about all we can say about that. 190 00:10:02,485 --> 00:10:05,095 Alright. Thank you. Yep. Question. 191 00:10:06,555 --> 00:10:09,335 Seeing none, Madam Chair, I'd like to move the bottom line 192 00:10:09,395 --> 00:10:11,615 for community development in the amount 193 00:10:11,675 --> 00:10:15,415 of $185,872. 194 00:10:17,235 --> 00:10:19,695 Is there a second? Second. All right. On the motion. 195 00:10:19,695 --> 00:10:22,735 Council mills? Yes. Councilor Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood. 196 00:10:22,915 --> 00:10:25,095 Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. And chair votes? Yes. 197 00:10:25,095 --> 00:10:27,415 Motion passes. Five zero. Okay. Thank 198 00:10:27,415 --> 00:10:28,415 You very much. 199 00:10:29,285 --> 00:10:32,855 Alright, next up we have it GIS. 200 00:10:34,125 --> 00:10:36,575 Okay. And Doug Rathburn. Are we stepping to the podium? 201 00:10:41,475 --> 00:10:43,255 It would be ironic if the screen just shut off. 202 00:10:45,165 --> 00:10:46,895 Good evening everyone. Good evening. 203 00:10:47,515 --> 00:10:51,495 I'm gonna bask in this moment for a while tonight. Okay. 204 00:10:54,275 --> 00:10:56,375 So let me move along here. 205 00:10:57,265 --> 00:10:59,135 Think I remember how to run a keyboard. 206 00:10:59,315 --> 00:11:00,575 So I'm, I'm Doug Rothman. 207 00:11:00,675 --> 00:11:02,815 I'm the ITJS manager for the Town of Dairy. 208 00:11:03,675 --> 00:11:08,335 And our two 20 2027 budget consists of, 209 00:11:08,515 --> 00:11:11,055 or our goals in this future years. 210 00:11:11,395 --> 00:11:14,375 We keep continuing to strive to provide 211 00:11:15,215 --> 00:11:18,655 enhanced customer service through online applications. 212 00:11:19,555 --> 00:11:21,375 That's an ongoing process. 213 00:11:23,665 --> 00:11:26,015 We're also looking at on our hardware end 214 00:11:27,085 --> 00:11:30,055 currently our switching, some of the switches 215 00:11:30,995 --> 00:11:34,655 in in the town are act actually at end of life. 216 00:11:35,155 --> 00:11:36,815 And we're looking at replacing those. 217 00:11:37,855 --> 00:11:40,375 I will say that we are in a fantastic spot 218 00:11:41,085 --> 00:11:42,375 here in the town of dairy. 219 00:11:43,405 --> 00:11:45,975 Over the years we have invested in our hardware 220 00:11:45,975 --> 00:11:48,935 and our infrastructure and it's, it's interesting 221 00:11:48,935 --> 00:11:53,285 because I, yesterday I went to, I go to a quarterly meeting 222 00:11:53,505 --> 00:11:57,205 of IT management up at Prix up in Concord. 223 00:11:57,625 --> 00:11:59,365 And I get to talk to my peers 224 00:12:00,465 --> 00:12:04,125 and we're in a really good spot, okay. 225 00:12:04,955 --> 00:12:06,085 When I talk to some of them. 226 00:12:06,265 --> 00:12:09,885 So we're actually not spending that much as far as 227 00:12:10,645 --> 00:12:11,925 hardware costs anymore. 228 00:12:12,475 --> 00:12:13,805 It's more in the software lines. 229 00:12:15,385 --> 00:12:18,765 One of our projects, major projects for 2027, 230 00:12:18,815 --> 00:12:20,525 we're looking at replacing cabling 231 00:12:20,785 --> 00:12:23,125 and the network infrastructure down at the 232 00:12:23,125 --> 00:12:24,565 wastewater treatment facility. 233 00:12:25,395 --> 00:12:29,445 That is, that facility is actually a hub for 234 00:12:29,445 --> 00:12:31,045 that entire network down there. 235 00:12:32,065 --> 00:12:36,925 So transfer highway, garage water, wastewater, 236 00:12:38,265 --> 00:12:41,445 public works, the highway department, everything comes 237 00:12:41,445 --> 00:12:42,805 through the wastewater facility 238 00:12:42,805 --> 00:12:45,405 and then back ends to here at the municipal center. 239 00:12:45,825 --> 00:12:48,205 And that infrastructure is just a little outdated 240 00:12:48,225 --> 00:12:49,405 and needs to be cleaned up. 241 00:12:49,505 --> 00:12:51,125 So we're looking at doing that as well. 242 00:12:51,545 --> 00:12:55,845 And once again, the big one for us is to keep, continue 243 00:12:55,845 --> 00:12:59,245 to enhance security and any resulting solutions. 244 00:12:59,945 --> 00:13:02,725 That's the big thing. I mean even once again, going back 245 00:13:02,725 --> 00:13:06,725 to my meeting I went to yesterday, that is the thing, 246 00:13:07,195 --> 00:13:08,245 keeping things safe. 247 00:13:08,705 --> 00:13:10,205 And that's what we're trying to do. 248 00:13:10,545 --> 00:13:13,685 So revenues, 249 00:13:13,865 --> 00:13:16,845 all our revenues come from intergovernmental transfers, 250 00:13:16,915 --> 00:13:19,005 from water wastewater and cable. 251 00:13:19,915 --> 00:13:22,445 There's a formula that basically takes chunks of what we do. 252 00:13:22,475 --> 00:13:26,725 Storage, office licensing, everything like that. 253 00:13:26,825 --> 00:13:29,285 And those numbers are calculated based on such 254 00:13:30,785 --> 00:13:31,845 any GS fees. 255 00:13:32,225 --> 00:13:33,805 That's sort of a placeholder number. 256 00:13:34,235 --> 00:13:35,965 I'll be honest with you. The $800, 257 00:13:36,185 --> 00:13:37,725 we probably won't see that. 258 00:13:38,035 --> 00:13:39,405 It's just a different world out there. 259 00:13:39,405 --> 00:13:40,725 There was a time when people would come in 260 00:13:40,725 --> 00:13:41,765 here and buy the tiles. 261 00:13:42,505 --> 00:13:44,045 Now they can actually get a lot 262 00:13:44,045 --> 00:13:45,685 of this data online for free. 263 00:13:46,065 --> 00:13:48,125 So, but that's there. 264 00:13:49,905 --> 00:13:52,525 As far as our operating costs 265 00:13:55,075 --> 00:13:58,285 line 3 42, there's an increase in that line. 266 00:13:58,685 --> 00:14:01,405 We're adding failover connectivity for the new HQ 267 00:14:02,505 --> 00:14:04,205 at the Dairy Fire Department. 268 00:14:05,625 --> 00:14:09,445 Our 3 41 line, we're looking at additional data plans for 269 00:14:10,165 --> 00:14:11,445 the dairy police department. 270 00:14:12,215 --> 00:14:14,045 We've got the motorcycles coming online. 271 00:14:14,255 --> 00:14:16,365 There are new cars coming online over there. 272 00:14:17,775 --> 00:14:21,965 We're also looking at lines a line for bev 273 00:14:22,225 --> 00:14:27,005 and additional lines at the DPW we're, 274 00:14:27,005 --> 00:14:29,125 we've also added SCADA data plans. 275 00:14:29,265 --> 00:14:32,885 So all our, our entire SCADA system, which is the network 276 00:14:33,075 --> 00:14:35,325 that all the pump stations operate on, 277 00:14:35,885 --> 00:14:37,165 those are all cellular now. 278 00:14:37,865 --> 00:14:40,045 And that is actually in that line as well. 279 00:14:40,215 --> 00:14:43,205 Which there's a small increase there, 280 00:14:43,265 --> 00:14:44,445 but you're actually seeing that 281 00:14:44,685 --> 00:14:46,245 'cause that's actually covered by the revenues 282 00:14:46,515 --> 00:14:49,445 that are generated from water and wastewater. 283 00:14:53,745 --> 00:14:57,405 The 3 4 2 0 0 1 line, which is basically our software line. 284 00:14:59,095 --> 00:15:03,205 We've, we're seeing an overall increase of $30,094. 285 00:15:04,035 --> 00:15:06,765 Support costs are increasing five to 7% 286 00:15:07,485 --> 00:15:08,685 pretty much across the board. 287 00:15:08,705 --> 00:15:10,365 And they're really vendor driven. 288 00:15:10,445 --> 00:15:12,125 Everything's subscription based. 289 00:15:12,265 --> 00:15:16,525 Now we do have some applications on-prem internally 290 00:15:16,595 --> 00:15:20,445 that we manage, but that's where, that's where we're going. 291 00:15:20,445 --> 00:15:21,525 That's where the future is. 292 00:15:22,395 --> 00:15:23,925 Some of the new items that we're adding, 293 00:15:25,505 --> 00:15:27,445 and I don't know if we talked about this last year, 294 00:15:27,445 --> 00:15:31,045 but, so we ran for the entire last year 295 00:15:32,205 --> 00:15:34,845 a an application, it's called Bull Wear Ransomware. 296 00:15:36,185 --> 00:15:38,285 And it's an annual subscription. 297 00:15:38,505 --> 00:15:41,325 And we purchased it last year to see how it would do. 298 00:15:42,505 --> 00:15:45,525 And it's been amazing. Okay. 299 00:15:46,625 --> 00:15:48,165 You don't wanna see it work actually 300 00:15:48,555 --> 00:15:51,405 because if it's working, you're actually dealing 301 00:15:51,405 --> 00:15:53,045 with a ransomware issue. 302 00:15:53,505 --> 00:15:55,485 But we've actually been able, 303 00:15:55,665 --> 00:15:58,805 the way it works is it actually monitors in real time your 304 00:15:58,805 --> 00:16:02,485 entire network and any anomalies that occur on the network, 305 00:16:03,985 --> 00:16:08,845 it sees it, it takes the computer, it locks the user out, 306 00:16:09,025 --> 00:16:10,205 it shuts down the computer. 307 00:16:10,625 --> 00:16:13,485 And if they're on a shared drive anywhere on the network, 308 00:16:13,945 --> 00:16:15,885 it actually drops the share. 309 00:16:16,675 --> 00:16:18,325 Okay. We had, 310 00:16:18,385 --> 00:16:20,085 and I think I mentioned this last year, 311 00:16:20,625 --> 00:16:22,485 so we had a demo done by them 312 00:16:23,385 --> 00:16:24,805 and we've actually seen it happen. 313 00:16:25,275 --> 00:16:27,685 Okay. So we've seen a proof of concept here 314 00:16:28,325 --> 00:16:31,885 where we had a detective over at the police department, 315 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:34,485 had change, had been changing files. 316 00:16:35,785 --> 00:16:37,165 It was a, it was legit, 317 00:16:37,785 --> 00:16:38,965 but the ransomware actually, 318 00:16:39,105 --> 00:16:40,685 we got a call at like eight o'clock at night. 319 00:16:40,745 --> 00:16:42,685 Hey, I'm locked out my computer, 320 00:16:42,865 --> 00:16:43,885 I'm locked outta my account. 321 00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:47,885 I can't log on. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. 322 00:16:48,305 --> 00:16:50,965 So we have, there's, it's a growing process. 323 00:16:51,265 --> 00:16:54,765 So we actually ran it for a better part of two months. 324 00:16:54,995 --> 00:16:56,165 Just monitoring, seeing 325 00:16:56,165 --> 00:16:57,485 what the trafficker was like on the network. 326 00:16:58,065 --> 00:16:59,925 So, but other than that it's been really stable 327 00:16:59,925 --> 00:17:02,285 and it's a really incredible piece of software. 328 00:17:03,105 --> 00:17:07,845 The company that provided the software 329 00:17:09,145 --> 00:17:12,645 ran a, launched a piece of ransomware on our network 330 00:17:13,745 --> 00:17:14,765 and ransomware, 331 00:17:14,765 --> 00:17:16,845 you're always worried about the encryption of your files. 332 00:17:17,075 --> 00:17:19,085 Your files are basically useless after that. 333 00:17:19,225 --> 00:17:21,845 And they want your money in order to decrypt the files. 334 00:17:23,635 --> 00:17:25,325 They ran a piece of ransomware that, 335 00:17:25,565 --> 00:17:28,565 I wanna say dec encrypted files at a rate of, 336 00:17:28,685 --> 00:17:31,005 I wanna say it was 10,000 files a second. 337 00:17:31,955 --> 00:17:35,725 Okay. We launched it in a test environment on our network. 338 00:17:36,385 --> 00:17:38,885 And the ransomware, 339 00:17:39,165 --> 00:17:41,445 actually the bowl wall application actually shut, 340 00:17:41,595 --> 00:17:42,725 shut down the ransomware 341 00:17:43,345 --> 00:17:44,805 and knocked the computer off, 342 00:17:45,005 --> 00:17:46,325 knocked the user off the network. 343 00:17:47,225 --> 00:17:49,685 And during that time 344 00:17:50,735 --> 00:17:52,805 there were only 30 files encrypted. 345 00:17:53,435 --> 00:17:57,385 Which is amazing. 'cause normally you're talking, you're, 346 00:17:57,385 --> 00:17:59,265 you're as, as soon as that starts, you're done. 347 00:17:59,765 --> 00:18:02,945 So just the fact that we were able to actually stop it at 348 00:18:02,945 --> 00:18:04,825 that, you know, at that level was amazing. 349 00:18:06,835 --> 00:18:10,105 We're also adding additional arc GIS licensing at, 350 00:18:10,245 --> 00:18:12,345 in the Department of Public Works. 351 00:18:12,515 --> 00:18:15,345 We've got a lot of young guns in there now. Okay. 352 00:18:15,525 --> 00:18:18,065 New people. And they're bright, they're young 353 00:18:18,125 --> 00:18:22,105 and they actually use GIS, which is kind of neat. 354 00:18:22,885 --> 00:18:25,185 So there's an increase in pricing there. 355 00:18:27,335 --> 00:18:30,905 Line 44 0 0 1, which is our lease line. 356 00:18:31,725 --> 00:18:34,025 We are seeing some pretty significant 357 00:18:34,545 --> 00:18:35,905 increases in hardware costs. 358 00:18:36,365 --> 00:18:39,025 So we lease a third of our computers annually. 359 00:18:41,835 --> 00:18:46,585 We're seeing increases of about $300 per unit right now. 360 00:18:48,085 --> 00:18:51,265 So it's tariffs. 361 00:18:51,285 --> 00:18:52,905 And the big thing is actually ai, 362 00:18:53,235 --> 00:18:54,465 which is affecting everything 363 00:18:55,025 --> 00:18:56,785 'cause it's affecting the memory costs 364 00:18:57,645 --> 00:18:58,905 and your hard drive costs. 365 00:19:00,205 --> 00:19:03,305 So it's just, it's unavoidable. It's across the board. 366 00:19:03,305 --> 00:19:05,105 Even Chromebooks these days are crazy. 367 00:19:06,855 --> 00:19:10,065 It's hopefully in the future 368 00:19:10,875 --> 00:19:12,105 we'll see it dip down again. 369 00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:14,625 You know. But the current AI trend is actually 370 00:19:14,625 --> 00:19:15,745 causing those price jumps. 371 00:19:18,255 --> 00:19:20,865 Line 60 69 0 0 0 2. 372 00:19:22,135 --> 00:19:24,745 That is, that was our hardware line. 373 00:19:25,225 --> 00:19:28,545 You'll actually see a significant decrease in that just 374 00:19:28,545 --> 00:19:31,225 because we have updated most of our hardware. 375 00:19:31,925 --> 00:19:33,505 The next time we should see hardware 376 00:19:33,505 --> 00:19:35,785 for refreshes along those lines are probably 377 00:19:36,495 --> 00:19:37,745 five to seven years from now. 378 00:19:38,485 --> 00:19:41,465 So once again, 379 00:19:41,465 --> 00:19:46,185 overall our overall operating costs increased by 44,242 380 00:19:46,325 --> 00:19:47,985 or 4.8%. 381 00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:51,665 And I think that's pretty much it. 382 00:19:52,245 --> 00:19:55,305 Oh, I do have one request to make on 383 00:19:55,305 --> 00:20:00,145 that 44 0 0 1 line I would like to increase, 384 00:20:00,155 --> 00:20:04,825 there is a item in there for our 2027 computer lease. 385 00:20:05,505 --> 00:20:08,585 I would like to increase that line by $600 386 00:20:08,695 --> 00:20:12,665 because we actually have two new positions that we have 387 00:20:12,665 --> 00:20:14,665 to add a leased computer for. 388 00:20:16,765 --> 00:20:17,765 So, 389 00:20:18,005 --> 00:20:22,825 So the 88,280, you'd wanna increase it to eight 80. 390 00:20:22,885 --> 00:20:24,305 88,008 80. Yep. 391 00:20:25,835 --> 00:20:27,445 That would be a bottom line of 392 00:20:28,145 --> 00:20:31,285 1 4 4 0 8 3 2. 393 00:20:31,705 --> 00:20:32,805 Yep. Alright. 394 00:20:35,695 --> 00:20:37,205 Thank you. Any questions? 395 00:20:37,525 --> 00:20:40,645 Questions? Come on, Jack. Okay. Council cook. 396 00:20:41,345 --> 00:20:42,805 I'm gonna let Council cook first this 397 00:20:42,805 --> 00:20:43,805 Time. 398 00:20:43,805 --> 00:20:45,365 Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you Doug. 399 00:20:45,755 --> 00:20:49,785 Sure. The ai, is that any increased risk for the 400 00:20:50,525 --> 00:20:51,625 system in any way? 401 00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:54,385 Like, is, is there, is that an increased target for 402 00:20:55,485 --> 00:20:57,065 or complicate things further as far as 403 00:20:57,415 --> 00:20:58,415 Goes? 404 00:20:58,415 --> 00:20:59,105 No. Yeah, it's interesting. It's, it's actually an increased 405 00:20:59,105 --> 00:21:01,425 target for or or becoming. 406 00:21:01,525 --> 00:21:04,425 So at least through the grapevine where I heard yesterday 407 00:21:04,925 --> 00:21:06,545 for 91 a requests, 408 00:21:07,605 --> 00:21:11,745 but we also don't, as part of our AI is everywhere. 409 00:21:11,935 --> 00:21:13,585 Yeah. Any browser you fire up. 410 00:21:15,455 --> 00:21:17,785 It's interesting because the whole concept of ai, 411 00:21:18,325 --> 00:21:20,945 is it actually a finished product? 412 00:21:22,245 --> 00:21:26,825 You know, is the process process of using AI 413 00:21:28,055 --> 00:21:30,305 susceptible to a 91 a request? 414 00:21:30,685 --> 00:21:33,225 Or you would think the final document may be 415 00:21:33,465 --> 00:21:34,625 produced by that? 416 00:21:35,065 --> 00:21:38,505 Hmm. But it's interesting because it's out there. 417 00:21:39,105 --> 00:21:43,625 A few towns that I talked to had actually had 91 a requests 418 00:21:43,645 --> 00:21:47,385 and they actually did not honor those requests. 419 00:21:47,385 --> 00:21:48,505 There's really no, it's sort 420 00:21:48,505 --> 00:21:50,185 of a real gray area out there right now. 421 00:21:50,235 --> 00:21:53,265 Right. AI itself at some point, 422 00:21:53,445 --> 00:21:55,585 we really don't use it internally. 423 00:21:58,565 --> 00:22:00,865 At some point over the next year will actually 424 00:22:01,885 --> 00:22:05,225 be looking at developing policy was related to that. 425 00:22:05,505 --> 00:22:07,305 'cause it can be used for, it can be used 426 00:22:07,305 --> 00:22:09,065 for really good things and it be Right. 427 00:22:09,085 --> 00:22:11,065 Can be used for really bad things. So, 428 00:22:11,365 --> 00:22:12,865 So if I didn't a few years ago, 429 00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:15,345 didn't saw security goes in ransomware right. 430 00:22:15,705 --> 00:22:17,425 A few years ago. I, I can't remember exactly when. 431 00:22:17,425 --> 00:22:19,745 But didn't, wasn't there a significant investment into the 432 00:22:20,105 --> 00:22:21,505 security program that you had and, 433 00:22:22,365 --> 00:22:23,365 Oh, it's ongoing. 434 00:22:23,365 --> 00:22:25,025 I know it's ongoing, but I, I thought a few years ago we 435 00:22:25,025 --> 00:22:26,665 made like a sub very substantial one 436 00:22:26,685 --> 00:22:28,185 and I didn't know if that's, if that 437 00:22:28,815 --> 00:22:30,345 when the next anticipated like, 438 00:22:30,485 --> 00:22:31,825 big thing would be if there's, 439 00:22:31,825 --> 00:22:33,225 or is it just that the maintenance, 440 00:22:33,225 --> 00:22:34,425 the ongoing maintenance, it's the 441 00:22:34,425 --> 00:22:35,425 Ongoing maintenance. 442 00:22:35,485 --> 00:22:37,745 So in the projected three to five years is nothing, 443 00:22:39,045 --> 00:22:40,585 you know, magnificent that we have to 444 00:22:40,895 --> 00:22:41,895 Prepare for. 445 00:22:41,895 --> 00:22:43,865 No, I think that the, the next big one is actually in two 446 00:22:43,865 --> 00:22:48,065 years time and that's when our barracuda antivirus 447 00:22:48,945 --> 00:22:52,065 archiving the firewall that sits in front 448 00:22:52,065 --> 00:22:54,025 of our email is gonna come from renewal. 449 00:22:54,205 --> 00:22:55,905 And they've, that they've got new product. 450 00:22:56,605 --> 00:22:59,305 We actually, we actually entered a five year agreement 451 00:22:59,305 --> 00:23:00,945 with them the last time we renewed, 452 00:23:00,945 --> 00:23:02,225 just so we could save money. 453 00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:05,505 Yeah. But that'll be the next big thing. Okay. 454 00:23:05,715 --> 00:23:07,345 Thank You. And and I'll be honest with you, Charlie, 455 00:23:07,345 --> 00:23:11,065 it moves so fast now who knows 456 00:23:11,065 --> 00:23:12,905 what It's true. 457 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:18,665 Charlie answered my question. Did he really? Exactly. 458 00:23:18,665 --> 00:23:19,865 You're killing me. There you go. 459 00:23:21,885 --> 00:23:23,145 I'm done. Councilor 460 00:23:23,145 --> 00:23:24,665 Mills, Madam Chair, 461 00:23:24,665 --> 00:23:27,545 seeing no other questions from anyone else. 462 00:23:27,565 --> 00:23:28,865 And I'll be the first one to tell you 463 00:23:28,865 --> 00:23:31,265 that I didn't understand a word that Doug said 464 00:23:31,725 --> 00:23:35,345 And At my age I'm fine with that, but I, I trusted that 465 00:23:35,585 --> 00:23:37,505 'cause nobody else jumped up and screamed anything. 466 00:23:37,925 --> 00:23:39,145 I'm gonna move the bottom line 467 00:23:39,165 --> 00:23:41,585 for information technology in the amount 468 00:23:41,605 --> 00:23:46,485 of $1,440,832 469 00:23:47,305 --> 00:23:48,305 Second. 470 00:23:48,305 --> 00:23:49,445 All right, we have a motion in a second. 471 00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:51,925 Any further discussion? Brought that part last time. 472 00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:54,525 All right. On the motion. Councilor Mills? Yes. 473 00:23:54,525 --> 00:23:58,165 Councilor Webb. Yes. Councilor Flood. Yes. Councilor Foot? 474 00:23:58,225 --> 00:24:00,685 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. Five zero. 475 00:24:01,215 --> 00:24:02,365 Thank you. I had a question, 476 00:24:02,365 --> 00:24:04,605 but realized it's not something to ask right now, so, 477 00:24:05,185 --> 00:24:06,185 And I would just like to say it 478 00:24:06,185 --> 00:24:07,525 Didn't have to do with the budget. I'll wait. 479 00:24:08,445 --> 00:24:10,965 I would just like to say that this is probably gonna be 480 00:24:10,965 --> 00:24:14,205 the last time I'm sitting in front of you in this capacity, 481 00:24:14,785 --> 00:24:16,165 so it's been a pleasure. 482 00:24:17,035 --> 00:24:21,685 Okay. And hopefully when I exit this 483 00:24:22,495 --> 00:24:24,845 stage, we leave you in really good hands. 484 00:24:25,105 --> 00:24:28,765 The guys that work for me are fantastic 485 00:24:29,705 --> 00:24:32,725 and it's, it's actually hard to leave, but 486 00:24:33,785 --> 00:24:34,785 How many years? 487 00:24:34,945 --> 00:24:36,085 How Many years, Doug, have you been doing this? 488 00:24:36,595 --> 00:24:38,405 It's that. How many years have you been sitting there? 489 00:24:39,355 --> 00:24:43,165 I've been sitting here for 31 years, so thank you. 490 00:24:43,165 --> 00:24:45,205 Thank you. Boy, I've seen a lot. You're only 39, 491 00:24:47,075 --> 00:24:48,165 Doug. What's 492 00:24:48,165 --> 00:24:49,165 That work? 493 00:24:49,165 --> 00:24:50,645 You are my man. Thank you 494 00:24:50,645 --> 00:24:51,645 Doug. 495 00:24:51,645 --> 00:24:54,885 Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay, moving on 496 00:24:55,025 --> 00:24:56,045 to assessing. 497 00:24:57,625 --> 00:25:00,045 All right. Mark Fleischer will be representing 498 00:25:00,045 --> 00:25:01,205 the next couple of budgets here. 499 00:25:12,395 --> 00:25:14,405 Okay. Good evening, mark Fleischer, CFO. 500 00:25:15,155 --> 00:25:18,005 Good. We're gonna start off with assessing. 501 00:25:18,225 --> 00:25:21,725 So an Ffy 2027 budget for assessing. 502 00:25:22,935 --> 00:25:24,525 We're getting into the third year 503 00:25:24,525 --> 00:25:26,205 of a five year contract with Whitney. 504 00:25:26,215 --> 00:25:27,805 Consulting for assessing duties 505 00:25:28,545 --> 00:25:31,405 is gonna be a minimal increase of $4,800 on that line. 506 00:25:32,505 --> 00:25:34,925 As far as revenues go, there's payment in lieu of taxes, 507 00:25:35,515 --> 00:25:38,925 also known as pilots are going to increase over FY 26 508 00:25:38,955 --> 00:25:41,765 with an addition of the solar power generating facility 509 00:25:41,835 --> 00:25:43,405 located at Transfer Lane 510 00:25:44,985 --> 00:25:48,165 at $20,000 per year for 25 years. 511 00:25:48,925 --> 00:25:51,485 Nutfield Heights continues to provide a consistent revenue 512 00:25:51,625 --> 00:25:52,845 as their pilot as a fixed 513 00:25:53,435 --> 00:25:55,685 calculation per New Hampshire statute. 514 00:25:56,705 --> 00:26:01,125 The printing and mailing line have increased for FY 27 due 515 00:26:01,125 --> 00:26:03,445 to the town wide revaluation that is expected 516 00:26:03,465 --> 00:26:06,085 to be completed by September, 2026. 517 00:26:06,665 --> 00:26:09,485 The increases due to required notices that will be sent 518 00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:10,525 to all taxpayers. 519 00:26:11,225 --> 00:26:14,885 So overall appropriations are increasing 2.26% 520 00:26:15,385 --> 00:26:16,925 and the appropriation total is 521 00:26:16,925 --> 00:26:21,925 513,473. Any questions? 522 00:26:25,435 --> 00:26:27,035 I just wanna thank everyone so far 523 00:26:27,065 --> 00:26:29,235 that every question I've had you've answered in your 524 00:26:29,235 --> 00:26:32,035 presentation, so I haven't had to ask it, so thank you. 525 00:26:32,485 --> 00:26:33,675 Great. Any other questions? 526 00:26:35,785 --> 00:26:38,555 Alright. It's okay. So no questions. 527 00:26:38,565 --> 00:26:40,315 Madam Chair, I move the bottom line 528 00:26:40,375 --> 00:26:41,715 for assessing in the amount 529 00:26:41,715 --> 00:26:46,045 of $513,473 second. 530 00:26:46,755 --> 00:26:48,365 Alright, any further discussion? 531 00:26:49,345 --> 00:26:51,525 All right, on the motion, councilor Mills? Yes. 532 00:26:51,525 --> 00:26:54,645 Councilor Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? 533 00:26:54,705 --> 00:26:57,085 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. Five zero. 534 00:26:57,905 --> 00:26:59,925 You're in a roll. Keep going. Okay, let's how, 535 00:27:00,135 --> 00:27:02,085 Let's get over to the department now. 536 00:27:02,345 --> 00:27:05,525 So in FY 27 the budget has increased 537 00:27:06,515 --> 00:27:10,645 over FY 26 by 106,974 538 00:27:10,945 --> 00:27:12,925 or 14.3%. 539 00:27:13,395 --> 00:27:15,125 That is primarily due to personnel 540 00:27:15,125 --> 00:27:19,325 and audit expense related Total personnel services increased 541 00:27:19,415 --> 00:27:21,325 7.8%. 542 00:27:21,325 --> 00:27:25,125 However, health insurance premiums have increased 26%. 543 00:27:25,525 --> 00:27:29,045 Workers' comp also increased 36.6%. 544 00:27:30,305 --> 00:27:32,405 We have budgeted five full-time employees 545 00:27:32,425 --> 00:27:34,685 and two part-time employees who are the treasurer 546 00:27:34,685 --> 00:27:37,285 and Deputy Treasurer auditing services. 547 00:27:37,395 --> 00:27:40,605 This is the killer is increasing 548 00:27:40,655 --> 00:27:44,405 $44,700 over FY 26. 549 00:27:44,515 --> 00:27:46,285 That seems to be an industry trend. 550 00:27:46,285 --> 00:27:49,325 We went out to bid and we only received two bidders. 551 00:27:49,735 --> 00:27:52,485 There just isn't a lot of people getting into municipal 552 00:27:53,225 --> 00:27:55,305 auditing that like we do. 553 00:27:57,635 --> 00:28:00,545 We're also increasing our professional services line 554 00:28:01,295 --> 00:28:03,545 account number 3 9 0 0 0 0. 555 00:28:03,655 --> 00:28:07,585 That is because we have a valuation year on our bene 556 00:28:07,905 --> 00:28:11,225 benefits and that's gonna be $10,000 higher than last year, 557 00:28:11,225 --> 00:28:12,745 which was just a reporting year. 558 00:28:14,145 --> 00:28:18,105 Revenues are projected to be $25,600 for the year. 559 00:28:18,395 --> 00:28:21,385 We're estimating that our commercial PCard rebate will come 560 00:28:21,385 --> 00:28:23,065 in around $25,000. 561 00:28:23,765 --> 00:28:25,385 So our appropriation total is 562 00:28:25,385 --> 00:28:30,385 8 56 5 3 1. Questions? 563 00:28:30,945 --> 00:28:32,265 Questions counsel? Just 564 00:28:32,305 --> 00:28:33,505 A general one, why was there a 565 00:28:33,505 --> 00:28:36,105 36% increase in workers' comp? I'm 566 00:28:36,105 --> 00:28:38,425 Just it. 567 00:28:38,745 --> 00:28:42,025 I think what it is is that, you know, we've had claims, 568 00:28:42,025 --> 00:28:45,305 significant claims, we've been trying to, you know, 569 00:28:45,505 --> 00:28:47,945 increase our experience, improve our experience rating, 570 00:28:47,945 --> 00:28:49,025 but I think they just went ahead 571 00:28:49,025 --> 00:28:50,945 and just did it across the board for all. 572 00:28:51,255 --> 00:28:53,065 Okay. However, believe it 573 00:28:53,185 --> 00:28:54,865 or not the fire department rate came 574 00:28:54,865 --> 00:28:56,305 down compared to everybody else. 575 00:28:56,885 --> 00:28:58,625 So they originally, 576 00:28:58,655 --> 00:28:59,985 they were the ones that were the highest. 577 00:29:00,095 --> 00:29:02,385 Yeah. So they're working to get, bring theirs down. 578 00:29:03,365 --> 00:29:05,305 That's really, yeah, the reason, 579 00:29:07,055 --> 00:29:08,705 It's just weird to see a workers' comp line 580 00:29:08,705 --> 00:29:09,705 On the finance department. 581 00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:12,865 I know it's such a low rate to begin with. Yeah. 582 00:29:13,005 --> 00:29:15,025 So when it goes up five bucks then 583 00:29:16,065 --> 00:29:17,665 I guess it's a significant Yeah. 584 00:29:17,795 --> 00:29:18,795 Percentage. 585 00:29:21,685 --> 00:29:24,665 No questions. So no questions. Madam Chair. 586 00:29:24,705 --> 00:29:26,705 I move the bottom line for financing the amount 587 00:29:26,705 --> 00:29:31,465 of $856,531. Second. 588 00:29:32,125 --> 00:29:36,185 All right, motion a second. Any discussion on the motion? 589 00:29:36,185 --> 00:29:39,545 Councilor Mills? Yes. Councilor Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood? 590 00:29:39,685 --> 00:29:42,045 Yes. Councilor Foote? Yes. And chair votes? Yes. 591 00:29:42,045 --> 00:29:45,605 Motion passes. Five zero. Now we're up to tax 592 00:29:45,605 --> 00:29:46,605 Collection. 593 00:29:46,605 --> 00:29:47,685 Okay, so next is tax collection. 594 00:29:47,705 --> 00:29:50,405 I'm gonna invite Stacy Belovo up, tax collector. 595 00:29:56,155 --> 00:29:58,725 Good evening. My name's Stacy Bevo. 596 00:29:58,825 --> 00:30:00,165 I'm the tax collector 597 00:30:01,145 --> 00:30:03,405 and I'm just gonna go over some revenue highlights. 598 00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:07,925 Interest in penalty revenue has been consistent 599 00:30:07,985 --> 00:30:11,245 for the past several years, therefore no change and should. 600 00:30:11,645 --> 00:30:13,805 Interest rates are 8% current year 601 00:30:13,805 --> 00:30:15,685 and 14% for the lean year. 602 00:30:17,495 --> 00:30:21,125 Motor vehicle and boat revenue have been increased based 603 00:30:21,125 --> 00:30:22,165 on higher list prices. 604 00:30:23,265 --> 00:30:26,245 Volume of transaction and convenience of processing. 605 00:30:26,275 --> 00:30:30,125 Boat registrations here, I gotta tell you the other day, 606 00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:33,245 with boat registrations, we went through a pack 607 00:30:33,245 --> 00:30:35,725 of boat decals or 25 608 00:30:35,905 --> 00:30:39,005 and we went through two of those in one day. 609 00:30:39,065 --> 00:30:40,485 So that is increasing. 610 00:30:41,425 --> 00:30:42,485 We will see more of that 611 00:30:42,785 --> 00:30:44,925 as the weather continues to get nicer. 612 00:30:46,235 --> 00:30:50,325 Sale of DA tax deeded property is the same as FY 26, 613 00:30:50,595 --> 00:30:52,805 however we expect to sell one property 614 00:30:52,805 --> 00:30:57,525 during fiscal year 27 based on current town deeded property 615 00:30:57,525 --> 00:31:02,365 inventory expenditure highlights, 616 00:31:03,145 --> 00:31:05,845 tax collection staff, five full-time employees. 617 00:31:05,995 --> 00:31:08,885 However, we have another full-time employee 618 00:31:09,645 --> 00:31:11,605 starting this Monday, which will bring us to six 619 00:31:12,735 --> 00:31:14,365 using historical data. 620 00:31:14,725 --> 00:31:17,205 Overtime has increased due to staff scheduling 621 00:31:17,205 --> 00:31:18,205 during vacations. 622 00:31:19,075 --> 00:31:20,885 Postage expenditure increased due 623 00:31:20,885 --> 00:31:22,685 to the increased daily cost in volume 624 00:31:22,705 --> 00:31:25,805 of mail being processed in the tax collector's office, 625 00:31:25,935 --> 00:31:28,965 especially due to online transaction volume 626 00:31:30,245 --> 00:31:33,965 appropriation total is 972,950. 627 00:31:35,635 --> 00:31:37,965 Just some customer service items. 628 00:31:38,265 --> 00:31:39,565 Credit cards accepted 629 00:31:39,745 --> 00:31:42,285 for all transactions at the customer service window 630 00:31:42,955 --> 00:31:45,445 with multiple payment options available. 631 00:31:45,445 --> 00:31:48,605 Payment tenders, acceptance of a CH 632 00:31:48,605 --> 00:31:49,765 and credit card payments 633 00:31:49,765 --> 00:31:52,045 through the customer self-service module. 634 00:31:52,185 --> 00:31:56,085 On our website we have an ATM available in the lobby, 635 00:31:56,955 --> 00:31:58,685 real time visibility of tax 636 00:31:58,785 --> 00:32:01,205 and utility balances on Tom website. 637 00:32:01,785 --> 00:32:04,645 You can go on the website, you can reprint your tax bill 638 00:32:05,265 --> 00:32:06,645 and you can also go online 639 00:32:06,665 --> 00:32:11,165 and do motor vehicle registrations as well as get estimates 640 00:32:11,345 --> 00:32:13,765 for a renewal or a new registration. 641 00:32:14,895 --> 00:32:15,895 Any questions? 642 00:32:17,805 --> 00:32:20,735 Council? Thank you Madam Chair. Just for those at home. 643 00:32:20,835 --> 00:32:24,135 So boats yes can be registered here that they can, 644 00:32:24,135 --> 00:32:25,215 doesn't have to be the, 645 00:32:25,215 --> 00:32:27,055 the town they live in just for anyone home. 646 00:32:27,055 --> 00:32:29,055 They can register the boats here at any 647 00:32:29,055 --> 00:32:30,295 time regardless of where they live, 648 00:32:30,295 --> 00:32:31,295 Correct? 649 00:32:31,295 --> 00:32:32,975 That's correct, yes. They don't have to be a dairy resident. 650 00:32:33,825 --> 00:32:34,935 Thank you. You're welcome. 651 00:32:37,095 --> 00:32:38,335 I would just like to, I don't have a question, 652 00:32:38,355 --> 00:32:41,525 but just on this customer service topic, thank everybody 653 00:32:41,545 --> 00:32:43,005 who has worked on this because I, 654 00:32:43,165 --> 00:32:45,485 I can say I've used the online registrations 655 00:32:45,585 --> 00:32:47,925 for a motor vehicle for my dog license 656 00:32:48,025 --> 00:32:49,445 except when I was late. 657 00:32:49,625 --> 00:32:54,365 But I think I, it's just, I think we do a really good job 658 00:32:54,705 --> 00:32:57,005 of focusing on our, our, 659 00:32:59,185 --> 00:33:00,605 our residents and trying 660 00:33:00,605 --> 00:33:01,885 to make things as easy as possible for them. 661 00:33:01,945 --> 00:33:04,445 So thank you to everybody that does. That may not 662 00:33:06,305 --> 00:33:07,305 To that point. 663 00:33:07,305 --> 00:33:08,765 So do we have the breakdown, the percentage, 664 00:33:08,765 --> 00:33:10,045 how many people actually utilize the 665 00:33:10,045 --> 00:33:11,805 online versus come in person? Is that, 666 00:33:12,645 --> 00:33:14,885 I don't have that with me this evening, 667 00:33:15,145 --> 00:33:16,405 but I can get back to you that. Okay. Is 668 00:33:16,405 --> 00:33:18,285 That something that easily attainable just to Yes to? 669 00:33:18,345 --> 00:33:20,565 Yep. Okay. Just curiosity. It's not So how 670 00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:22,485 Many online versus Coming? Yeah. Okay. 671 00:33:23,165 --> 00:33:25,045 I can get back to you. Sure. Thank you. You're welcome. 672 00:33:26,595 --> 00:33:28,885 Counselor. What, just going back to customer service. 673 00:33:29,045 --> 00:33:30,205 I wanna thank you and your staff 674 00:33:30,205 --> 00:33:31,685 because they really are helpful. 675 00:33:32,325 --> 00:33:34,205 I see it when I walk through town 676 00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:39,005 and also, you know, encompassing it, 677 00:33:40,005 --> 00:33:41,805 a weird title problem with myself. 678 00:33:42,155 --> 00:33:44,765 They didn't know who I was and just how helpful 679 00:33:44,865 --> 00:33:45,885 and knowledgeable they were. 680 00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:49,645 So it, it's greatly appreciated. 681 00:33:50,215 --> 00:33:51,685 Thank you very much. I appreciate that. 682 00:33:51,685 --> 00:33:53,245 That's nice to hear. Thank you. 683 00:33:55,385 --> 00:33:57,365 Any other Questions? So you, no further questions. 684 00:33:57,415 --> 00:33:59,605 Madam Chair, I move the bottom line 685 00:33:59,625 --> 00:34:01,125 for tax collection in the amount 686 00:34:01,125 --> 00:34:05,325 of $972,950. 687 00:34:05,705 --> 00:34:06,705 Second. 688 00:34:07,225 --> 00:34:11,405 Any other discussion on the motion? Councilor Mills? Yes. 689 00:34:11,595 --> 00:34:14,845 Councilor Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? 690 00:34:14,905 --> 00:34:17,805 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. Five zero. Thank 691 00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:18,805 You. 692 00:34:18,805 --> 00:34:19,005 Thank you very much. Good evening. 693 00:34:20,025 --> 00:34:22,685 All right, looks like cable is up next. 694 00:34:23,025 --> 00:34:26,165 Do we know where Owen went? 695 00:34:28,965 --> 00:34:30,445 I think on the side. 696 00:34:31,475 --> 00:34:32,925 Okay, we'll while we're waiting 697 00:34:32,925 --> 00:34:34,685 For that, we'll go with, we'll 698 00:34:34,685 --> 00:34:36,405 Go with the town clerk and elections. 699 00:34:36,435 --> 00:34:40,165 Okay. You may have to slide through 700 00:34:40,705 --> 00:34:41,765 in the order of the but 701 00:34:49,105 --> 00:34:50,105 Good evening. 702 00:34:50,625 --> 00:34:55,155 Good evening. So town clerk's office is responsible for 703 00:34:56,935 --> 00:35:00,635 all the records and the management of vital records, 704 00:35:00,635 --> 00:35:04,115 meeting minutes, dog licensing and of course elections. 705 00:35:07,015 --> 00:35:11,715 We tend to be where everyone in town calls to see 706 00:35:12,975 --> 00:35:14,675 and ask all sorts of questions. 707 00:35:15,455 --> 00:35:16,795 We get all sorts of mail. 708 00:35:18,675 --> 00:35:22,475 I got a request today about someone who obviously 709 00:35:23,055 --> 00:35:25,955 has a neighbor that has an out-of-state license plate 710 00:35:26,015 --> 00:35:30,195 and that I need to inform them that they need 711 00:35:30,195 --> 00:35:31,275 to register their vehicle. 712 00:35:32,215 --> 00:35:36,275 So we have two full-time employees. 713 00:35:37,785 --> 00:35:42,285 One part-time. She's full-time, part-time. 714 00:35:42,285 --> 00:35:44,445 She's got partial benefits, 30 hours. 715 00:35:45,675 --> 00:35:48,325 Most of my increase is personnel related. 716 00:35:50,195 --> 00:35:52,365 This slide was done on the 10th. 717 00:35:53,305 --> 00:35:56,325 We are now up to, as of this evening, 718 00:35:56,875 --> 00:35:59,445 4,290 dogs licensed 719 00:36:00,955 --> 00:36:03,485 with 2,417. 720 00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:07,645 Unlicensed licenses are due on April 30th 721 00:36:08,885 --> 00:36:11,405 'cause the dog year runs May one, April 30th. 722 00:36:13,105 --> 00:36:16,525 Two counselor foot's question. 723 00:36:17,415 --> 00:36:21,205 68% of our dog licenses are renewed online. 724 00:36:22,005 --> 00:36:23,845 I checked that number today. 725 00:36:24,755 --> 00:36:26,565 Most people automatically renew them. 726 00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:28,805 Some people set up for hour renewal. 727 00:36:29,985 --> 00:36:33,125 You can renew online as long as your rabies is current. 728 00:36:33,235 --> 00:36:36,165 Otherwise they email us their rabies certificate, 729 00:36:36,185 --> 00:36:38,365 we update it and they make their payment online. 730 00:36:39,425 --> 00:36:42,725 We mail out their registration 731 00:36:44,145 --> 00:36:45,245 on the revenue side. 732 00:36:46,435 --> 00:36:51,245 Back in late May last year, council 733 00:36:51,845 --> 00:36:56,525 approved a fee for ceremonies as 734 00:36:56,745 --> 00:36:58,485 of last Friday. 735 00:36:58,625 --> 00:37:02,725 We had done 52 ceremonies since the end of September. 736 00:37:03,185 --> 00:37:05,165 It did take time for all of my staff 737 00:37:05,165 --> 00:37:06,565 to get their justices of the piece. 738 00:37:07,425 --> 00:37:11,485 So, and we get lots of phone calls every day. 739 00:37:11,485 --> 00:37:13,965 People are coming in, they're 740 00:37:13,965 --> 00:37:15,405 what they call a courthouse wedding. 741 00:37:16,245 --> 00:37:18,045 'cause you know, our courthouse doesn't have it. 742 00:37:19,105 --> 00:37:21,205 We actually had another one yesterday. 743 00:37:21,305 --> 00:37:22,805 So the number's now 53. 744 00:37:24,715 --> 00:37:26,525 They come in, they come in all dressed up. 745 00:37:28,345 --> 00:37:31,645 We recently had one that not only did we marry them, 746 00:37:32,575 --> 00:37:34,605 their dogs also became family. 747 00:37:35,785 --> 00:37:39,605 The dogs came in all dressed up in dresses in tuxedos 748 00:37:40,105 --> 00:37:43,205 and we pronounced them a family once we had married them. 749 00:37:44,065 --> 00:37:47,925 So it is interesting times at town hall, 750 00:37:48,625 --> 00:37:52,405 but it's great to see our, 751 00:37:53,715 --> 00:37:56,925 most of our revenue is set by state statute. 752 00:37:57,575 --> 00:38:00,125 We're not really money making department. 753 00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:04,325 So this is nice that we're offering a service to 754 00:38:05,305 --> 00:38:09,605 any New Hampshire resident, but mostly our dairy residents. 755 00:38:10,145 --> 00:38:13,805 And you know, getting married is expensive nowadays. 756 00:38:14,145 --> 00:38:17,765 So they can get it done, get it done quick, 757 00:38:17,905 --> 00:38:21,085 get it done relatively inexpensively and move on 758 00:38:21,085 --> 00:38:22,205 and have their party later 759 00:38:22,225 --> 00:38:24,685 and not actually call it a wedding and pay less for it. 760 00:38:25,945 --> 00:38:30,845 So if you guys have any questions on that Budget Council. 761 00:38:31,175 --> 00:38:34,125 Thank you Madam Chair. Two quick questions on the 762 00:38:35,555 --> 00:38:37,165 same question for the tax. 763 00:38:37,635 --> 00:38:40,365 Non-residents can get married here, correct? Yep. Okay. 764 00:38:40,425 --> 00:38:43,405 And secondly, is there any kind of, for the service, 765 00:38:43,545 --> 00:38:45,565 do any kind of backdrop for like pictures for them? 766 00:38:45,585 --> 00:38:47,645 Is that, and if that's something that if we don't have that, 767 00:38:48,265 --> 00:38:50,005 is that something to worthwhile getting? So that 768 00:38:50,005 --> 00:38:53,845 Is something I've been thinking about 769 00:38:54,785 --> 00:38:59,605 myself and some other people downstairs on the first floor, 770 00:39:00,275 --> 00:39:02,845 that little side room, if you go in there now, 771 00:39:03,165 --> 00:39:04,525 there's a bunch of plants in there. 772 00:39:05,615 --> 00:39:07,245 We're trying to make it a little bit prettier 773 00:39:07,245 --> 00:39:11,645 and a little bit nicer and fact, I put up a Norman Rockwell 774 00:39:12,325 --> 00:39:17,285 marriage license painting that was hiding in the basement. 775 00:39:18,145 --> 00:39:20,165 So I've been trying to kind of do little things. 776 00:39:21,885 --> 00:39:24,365 A backdrop would probably be something really nice, 777 00:39:25,065 --> 00:39:29,285 but you know, it's something we'll figure out as we go. 778 00:39:30,425 --> 00:39:33,165 I'm looking forward to seeing an, you know, 779 00:39:33,485 --> 00:39:36,405 a whole year's worth of marriages and how many we're doing 780 00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:38,805 and, and what that maths out to. 781 00:39:39,785 --> 00:39:42,165 Any little enhancement might be a little more 782 00:39:42,165 --> 00:39:43,445 of an attraction versus coming 783 00:39:43,445 --> 00:39:45,285 here versus another town hall. If it's a 784 00:39:45,285 --> 00:39:48,445 Little, well not every town hall offers, right? 785 00:39:48,925 --> 00:39:51,885 Marriage services. You can get a marriage license at any 786 00:39:51,885 --> 00:39:53,205 city or town clerk in the state. 787 00:39:53,385 --> 00:39:56,645 But you know, it's us, it's Manchester, 788 00:39:56,755 --> 00:39:58,325 it's just a couple others that actually 789 00:39:58,325 --> 00:39:59,645 offer the ceremony piece. 790 00:40:00,675 --> 00:40:02,645 It's only $135 for 791 00:40:02,645 --> 00:40:03,645 The ceremony piece. 792 00:40:03,645 --> 00:40:05,325 Yep. And your marriage license is $50. 793 00:40:05,785 --> 00:40:09,525 And then we, we put in a marriage certificate for $15. 794 00:40:09,625 --> 00:40:11,205 So the whole package is $200. 795 00:40:11,475 --> 00:40:13,925 Have to keep that in mind for the next ex Mrs. Mills, 796 00:40:13,925 --> 00:40:16,445 you know, next future ex Mrs. Mills. 797 00:40:16,725 --> 00:40:17,885 I was gonna give $200, 798 00:40:18,255 --> 00:40:19,605 53 full couples. 799 00:40:22,145 --> 00:40:23,845 Any other actual questions? 800 00:40:26,395 --> 00:40:27,605 That was a legit question. 801 00:40:29,235 --> 00:40:30,645 Does your wife watch the meetings? 802 00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:33,245 Yeah, I hope not. Oh, I'll tell her all about it. 803 00:40:33,245 --> 00:40:34,325 Don't worry either 804 00:40:34,325 --> 00:40:36,125 That I'll have to, I'll have to give you cash. 805 00:40:38,865 --> 00:40:43,765 That's a Vegas divorce. Madam Clerk. Madam Clerk. 806 00:40:43,855 --> 00:40:46,085 Madam Chair. I move the bottom line 807 00:40:46,085 --> 00:40:47,445 for the town clerk in the amount 808 00:40:47,445 --> 00:40:51,965 of $246,345 second. 809 00:40:52,715 --> 00:40:55,285 Alright, motion to second. Any further discussion? 810 00:40:56,905 --> 00:40:59,405 Mrs. Mills will find out. Don't worry. On the motion. 811 00:41:00,105 --> 00:41:01,525 Yes. Council Mills 812 00:41:02,485 --> 00:41:03,645 $135. 813 00:41:03,905 --> 00:41:04,905 Yes. 814 00:41:05,475 --> 00:41:07,605 Councilor Weather? Yes. Councilor Flood? 815 00:41:07,705 --> 00:41:08,845 Yes. Councilor Foot? 816 00:41:08,945 --> 00:41:12,645 Yes. And she already knows. And chair votes? Yes. 817 00:41:12,985 --> 00:41:15,725 Motion carries by zero. And elections. 818 00:41:16,185 --> 00:41:17,685 All right. And we'll move on to elections. 819 00:41:18,195 --> 00:41:23,005 Okay, so the next fiscal year we're going from one 820 00:41:23,245 --> 00:41:25,445 election to three elections in the fiscal year. 821 00:41:25,905 --> 00:41:28,525 So that's why the personnel line jumps 822 00:41:28,905 --> 00:41:31,965 so much postage. 823 00:41:32,485 --> 00:41:35,765 There's an increase in the postage line due 824 00:41:35,765 --> 00:41:38,605 to legislation at the state level requiring an annual annual 825 00:41:38,645 --> 00:41:41,045 verification of the checklist at the local level. 826 00:41:41,825 --> 00:41:43,605 So they passed 827 00:41:44,145 --> 00:41:47,165 Senate Bill 2 21 last year. 828 00:41:47,185 --> 00:41:48,405 It goes into effect this year. 829 00:41:49,325 --> 00:41:50,765 It was after budget season, 830 00:41:51,905 --> 00:41:54,245 so we're figuring it out for this year. 831 00:41:54,745 --> 00:41:57,165 But they'll be having a supervised checklist. 832 00:41:57,215 --> 00:42:01,405 We'll be having a session next week, which is the start 833 00:42:01,405 --> 00:42:03,165 of the annual verification process. 834 00:42:03,775 --> 00:42:07,165 There are, I believe it's 2064 voters 835 00:42:07,275 --> 00:42:08,765 that they're gonna need to look at 836 00:42:09,245 --> 00:42:13,485 'cause they haven't voted within so many years of the date. 837 00:42:14,545 --> 00:42:18,325 So we are required to mail them letters informing them 838 00:42:18,635 --> 00:42:20,165 that if they don't respond 839 00:42:20,825 --> 00:42:23,885 and come in, they will be removed from the checklist. 840 00:42:27,025 --> 00:42:28,605 We used to do it once every 10 years 841 00:42:28,705 --> 00:42:30,045 and now we're doing it every year. 842 00:42:33,745 --> 00:42:36,205 So not in the budget, 843 00:42:36,625 --> 00:42:40,205 but I wanted to make the council aware there's a bill 844 00:42:40,205 --> 00:42:42,805 pending in Concord is House Bill 1300. 845 00:42:44,235 --> 00:42:48,605 This legislation will require a local ballot to be produced 846 00:42:48,905 --> 00:42:50,805 for the November elections. 847 00:42:52,825 --> 00:42:55,725 So that means we'd have to print 20,000 ballots 848 00:42:55,745 --> 00:42:58,125 to put two questions on it for our voters. 849 00:42:58,795 --> 00:43:00,325 We'd have to pay for the programming 850 00:43:00,325 --> 00:43:01,405 for the accessible voting. 851 00:43:01,915 --> 00:43:05,405 When the amendment to that bill was originally introduced, 852 00:43:05,865 --> 00:43:09,605 it was, it was in the legislation to add it 853 00:43:09,605 --> 00:43:13,005 to the November ballot, which is provided by the state. 854 00:43:13,145 --> 00:43:14,525 And it doesn't cost the town. 855 00:43:15,485 --> 00:43:19,405 However, floor amendment made it so that the town 856 00:43:19,405 --> 00:43:21,805 and city clerks will need to provide that. 857 00:43:22,305 --> 00:43:23,605 So 20,000 ballots 858 00:43:23,625 --> 00:43:25,645 and some programming is probably gonna be 859 00:43:25,645 --> 00:43:27,125 between seven to $8,000. 860 00:43:28,025 --> 00:43:29,405 So if that bill passes 861 00:43:29,665 --> 00:43:32,165 and we'll need to do that, then I will need to come back 862 00:43:32,165 --> 00:43:33,925 to the council for that money. 863 00:43:35,275 --> 00:43:37,205 Also, I just wanna put it on your radar. 864 00:43:37,765 --> 00:43:39,445 I know it says House bill four 18. 865 00:43:39,445 --> 00:43:41,205 It's actually House Bill 4 81, 866 00:43:41,735 --> 00:43:45,445 which moves the primary date from September to June. 867 00:43:45,835 --> 00:43:47,725 It's awaiting signature from the governor 868 00:43:48,425 --> 00:43:52,885 and a Senate bill 1 0 3 will require us 869 00:43:52,905 --> 00:43:56,325 to submit a plan in order to keep our one polling place 870 00:43:56,345 --> 00:43:57,565 for presidential elections. 871 00:43:58,145 --> 00:44:01,605 So based on when 872 00:44:01,605 --> 00:44:03,885 that information comes out from Secretary of State 873 00:44:03,885 --> 00:44:06,805 and what they're going to need, I will come to the council 874 00:44:07,585 --> 00:44:11,445 to have, we'll probably need to have some sort of discussion 875 00:44:12,045 --> 00:44:14,645 publicly about polling locations, polling places. 876 00:44:16,065 --> 00:44:19,405 And once Senate Bill 4 81 is signed by the governor, 877 00:44:19,405 --> 00:44:21,285 we'll need to reach out to Pinkerton. 878 00:44:22,585 --> 00:44:25,365 The second Tuesdays in June is usually 879 00:44:25,495 --> 00:44:26,845 graduation day for them. 880 00:44:27,305 --> 00:44:28,765 So I'm not sure 881 00:44:29,025 --> 00:44:31,365 how comfortable they're gonna be about us voting 882 00:44:32,185 --> 00:44:33,205 at Pinkerton then, 883 00:44:33,305 --> 00:44:36,205 or if they're gonna be able to adjust that for 2028. 884 00:44:37,065 --> 00:44:40,085 So we'll need to have those conversations obviously. 885 00:44:40,105 --> 00:44:41,805 But I wanted to put them on your radar 886 00:44:45,965 --> 00:44:46,965 Questions. 887 00:44:48,565 --> 00:44:52,645 I had one question. You mentioned on the verification 888 00:44:52,795 --> 00:44:55,605 that they, the those 2000 whatever 889 00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:56,805 people would need to come in. 890 00:44:57,345 --> 00:45:00,565 Is there accommodation for someone that's house bound 891 00:45:00,565 --> 00:45:02,525 or something like that to be able to still, 892 00:45:03,065 --> 00:45:04,065 Yes. 893 00:45:04,065 --> 00:45:07,325 So if they are a registered voter who receives this letter, 894 00:45:07,395 --> 00:45:08,725 they would just need to call. 895 00:45:09,505 --> 00:45:12,285 The number will be on there and we will talk to them 896 00:45:12,345 --> 00:45:14,525 and make arrangements for what they need to do. 897 00:45:16,425 --> 00:45:19,285 But most of these people have not voted in four 898 00:45:19,285 --> 00:45:22,125 or five years, so they may not even be here. 899 00:45:22,625 --> 00:45:25,765 We do have a transient population in some 900 00:45:25,765 --> 00:45:27,205 of the apartment complexes 901 00:45:27,985 --> 00:45:30,485 and a lot of them only vote in presidentials. 902 00:45:30,545 --> 00:45:33,845 So if they didn't vote in 2024, they're most likely 903 00:45:34,385 --> 00:45:35,805 not living in town anymore. 904 00:45:36,475 --> 00:45:37,765 Okay. Thank you. I just wanted 905 00:45:37,765 --> 00:45:39,405 to make sure there was that accommodation. 906 00:45:39,405 --> 00:45:40,645 Yeah. Any other questions? 907 00:45:42,145 --> 00:45:43,885 See no other questions. Madam Chair, 908 00:45:44,005 --> 00:45:46,925 I move the bottom line for elections in the amount 909 00:45:46,925 --> 00:45:50,485 of $152,087 910 00:45:52,465 --> 00:45:53,465 Second. 911 00:45:53,465 --> 00:45:54,925 Alright, any further discussion? 912 00:45:55,975 --> 00:45:58,795 All right, on the motion, council mills? Yes. Council Webb? 913 00:45:58,975 --> 00:46:01,355 Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. 914 00:46:01,455 --> 00:46:03,595 And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes by zero. 915 00:46:03,765 --> 00:46:06,395 Thank you very much. Alright, 916 00:46:06,775 --> 00:46:09,835 we can go back up to cable. Owen, are you ready? 917 00:46:10,655 --> 00:46:11,275 Oh sure. 918 00:46:48,055 --> 00:46:49,785 Good evening. Counselors matter, chair, 919 00:46:50,445 --> 00:46:54,745 county Administrator, Fowler, staff in attendance, members 920 00:46:54,745 --> 00:46:55,745 of the public here 921 00:46:55,885 --> 00:46:59,665 and those watching at home, my pleasure to present to you. 922 00:47:00,295 --> 00:47:04,705 Summary, overview of FY 27 for the cable division. 923 00:47:05,105 --> 00:47:06,505 AKA dairy cam. 924 00:47:12,135 --> 00:47:13,785 Certainly gonna keep this very brief. 925 00:47:14,035 --> 00:47:14,945 Leave plenty of room for 926 00:47:15,145 --> 00:47:17,105 questions, I'm sure we'll have some. 927 00:47:20,425 --> 00:47:22,965 We are Dairy Kim. We believe that a better world starts 928 00:47:22,965 --> 00:47:24,125 with a connected community. 929 00:47:24,665 --> 00:47:28,385 We strive every day to live, 930 00:47:29,795 --> 00:47:30,845 work it, show it. 931 00:47:30,945 --> 00:47:34,125 And dairy. Our strategy is fully aligned 932 00:47:34,125 --> 00:47:35,325 with dairy's master plan. 933 00:47:35,605 --> 00:47:37,445 I think it's important to, to note that 934 00:47:37,465 --> 00:47:40,285 and I think you'll see parts of that peeking through 935 00:47:40,285 --> 00:47:42,445 as you see our strategy here. 936 00:47:42,445 --> 00:47:47,325 Moving forward every day 937 00:47:47,465 --> 00:47:49,885 we strive to keep dairy connected 938 00:47:50,305 --> 00:47:52,205 and bring the best in hyper-local 939 00:47:53,035 --> 00:47:54,685 programming to the dairy residents. 940 00:47:54,685 --> 00:47:56,725 And provide opportunities to create, capture 941 00:47:56,825 --> 00:47:59,005 and share the stories that shape our lives. 942 00:47:59,275 --> 00:48:02,085 Stories that are meaningful, relevant, useful, entertaining 943 00:48:02,845 --> 00:48:04,485 ultimately and enhance the culture 944 00:48:05,145 --> 00:48:07,485 and quality of life for the residents 945 00:48:07,485 --> 00:48:09,485 and visitors of Dairy New Hampshire. 946 00:48:12,345 --> 00:48:16,245 How do we do that? Or 947 00:48:16,315 --> 00:48:17,845 what, what are we? 948 00:48:17,845 --> 00:48:19,485 We're an information distribution hub, 949 00:48:20,325 --> 00:48:22,685 basically emanating from dairy cam.org. 950 00:48:23,225 --> 00:48:25,925 We promote dairy as a destination spotlight, arts 951 00:48:25,945 --> 00:48:29,365 and creative culture, of course like this one, 952 00:48:29,935 --> 00:48:34,725 allow folks access to live meeting coverage, 953 00:48:35,255 --> 00:48:37,605 which promotes civic engagement and participation. 954 00:48:38,585 --> 00:48:41,765 We reflect and enhance cultural identity for those 955 00:48:41,765 --> 00:48:45,885 who live in dairy and those who have the diaspora, 956 00:48:45,885 --> 00:48:48,005 if you will have since moved away. 957 00:48:48,225 --> 00:48:50,605 But want to stay connected to their hometown roots. 958 00:48:52,785 --> 00:48:54,645 We provide local and regional nonprofit 959 00:48:54,645 --> 00:48:55,965 visibility and outreach. 960 00:48:56,145 --> 00:49:00,125 Now more than ever, nonprofits are leaned on for support 961 00:49:00,865 --> 00:49:03,965 and we get plenty of feedback from our community partners 962 00:49:03,965 --> 00:49:06,525 that we do provide a valuable service for them. 963 00:49:08,725 --> 00:49:10,785 In a way we preserve dairy's historic record. 964 00:49:11,315 --> 00:49:16,145 We've had experienced plenty of milestones lately. 965 00:49:16,335 --> 00:49:18,305 Some, some big moves. Dairy is making. 966 00:49:18,555 --> 00:49:20,065 We're happy that we can capture those 967 00:49:20,565 --> 00:49:23,585 and generations to come can see the transformation 968 00:49:24,125 --> 00:49:25,625 as we can right before our eyes. 969 00:49:26,645 --> 00:49:29,865 We also, hopefully we never have to use it, 970 00:49:30,285 --> 00:49:33,345 but we provide resilience during emergency in the form 971 00:49:33,345 --> 00:49:35,065 of communications and outreach to the public. 972 00:49:36,015 --> 00:49:39,545 Primarily leaning on when all else fails, radio waves 973 00:49:40,365 --> 00:49:45,185 and our FM radio station will provide, will likely be there 974 00:49:45,445 --> 00:49:48,345 to provide information to folks as needed in the event 975 00:49:48,345 --> 00:49:50,345 of natural disasters, et cetera. 976 00:49:52,445 --> 00:49:53,905 And we're keeping dairy recognized 977 00:49:53,905 --> 00:49:55,265 as a leader in community media. 978 00:49:55,315 --> 00:49:57,065 We'll get to that in a little bit. 979 00:50:00,805 --> 00:50:03,135 This is a taste of what a connected dairy looks like. 980 00:50:03,985 --> 00:50:05,135 These are partners we work 981 00:50:05,135 --> 00:50:09,455 with every day, year after year. 982 00:50:09,745 --> 00:50:11,855 We're very proud to do so. 983 00:50:12,725 --> 00:50:14,255 This is only a sample, as I say, 984 00:50:14,955 --> 00:50:16,655 and many projects are underway right now. 985 00:50:17,035 --> 00:50:18,855 And we've got new alliances, 986 00:50:18,915 --> 00:50:21,695 new partners forming all the time. 987 00:50:22,825 --> 00:50:26,095 We've got some fun and interesting 988 00:50:26,315 --> 00:50:28,765 and educational topics on the docket 989 00:50:28,865 --> 00:50:33,765 for the year coming ahead, which I'm excited to have 990 00:50:33,865 --> 00:50:35,405 to collaborate with those partners. 991 00:50:35,405 --> 00:50:38,205 With that, How do we do all this? 992 00:50:38,815 --> 00:50:39,925 We're the dairies, 993 00:50:39,925 --> 00:50:42,965 municipal cable division serving 34,000 residents, 994 00:50:43,245 --> 00:50:48,165 14,000 households, albeit funded by 995 00:50:49,285 --> 00:50:51,785 a fraction of that population. 996 00:50:52,195 --> 00:50:54,545 Cable subscribers. We are not taxpayer funded. 997 00:50:57,285 --> 00:50:59,785 It should be no surprise to anyone that cable funds, 998 00:51:00,075 --> 00:51:02,465 we've talked about this before in presentations 999 00:51:03,565 --> 00:51:08,225 in the past years, but we're, we've, we've reached 1000 00:51:08,765 --> 00:51:11,785 the cliff again, we'll allude to that in a, in a little bit. 1001 00:51:12,165 --> 00:51:14,065 Our platforms that we distribute on 1002 00:51:14,645 --> 00:51:16,825 are Comcast channels 16 and 22. 1003 00:51:16,845 --> 00:51:19,265 We distribute channel six, which is the educational channel 1004 00:51:19,485 --> 00:51:20,785 for the school district. 1005 00:51:22,065 --> 00:51:24,945 Distribute meeting. The school district takes care 1006 00:51:24,945 --> 00:51:26,225 of the programming for the most part. 1007 00:51:26,655 --> 00:51:30,585 Save school board meetings 1008 00:51:30,605 --> 00:51:32,185 and other special meetings that we, 1009 00:51:32,375 --> 00:51:35,505 that we capture here in-house at the municipal center. 1010 00:51:37,045 --> 00:51:41,065 But that feed comes through our hub downstairs 1011 00:51:41,525 --> 00:51:45,905 and then is distributed out to Comcast subscribers streaming 1012 00:51:45,905 --> 00:51:47,265 and OTT over the top. 1013 00:51:47,405 --> 00:51:49,865 That's your Roku, apple tv, fire tv, 1014 00:51:49,885 --> 00:51:52,145 if you have those apps at home, search, dairy TV, 1015 00:51:53,065 --> 00:51:54,385 anywhere worldwide. 1016 00:51:54,685 --> 00:51:56,665 And you can check in on what's going on at home. 1017 00:51:57,695 --> 00:52:01,285 YouTube channel, that's sort of 1018 00:52:02,085 --> 00:52:03,165 a backup, backup, backup. 1019 00:52:03,585 --> 00:52:06,325 We don't put a lot of faith in in in YouTube as 1020 00:52:06,425 --> 00:52:07,645 as a delivery source. 1021 00:52:07,865 --> 00:52:09,165 But we do have that capability 1022 00:52:09,185 --> 00:52:12,765 and a lot of people are find us on YouTube largest 1023 00:52:13,535 --> 00:52:14,965 video search engine out there. 1024 00:52:15,345 --> 00:52:17,085 So it behooves us to be on there 1025 00:52:17,085 --> 00:52:19,885 and we, we do get some views, actually a lot of views. 1026 00:52:20,405 --> 00:52:22,965 Government meetings in particular on that 1027 00:52:23,465 --> 00:52:24,525 as we live stream there. 1028 00:52:25,225 --> 00:52:28,845 And then playback, recorded videos 1029 00:52:31,255 --> 00:52:35,075 as I mentioned, 95.1 there is evolution 1030 00:52:38,135 --> 00:52:39,435 and dairy cam.org. 1031 00:52:39,535 --> 00:52:42,995 So dairy cam serves as the hub from there. 1032 00:52:43,245 --> 00:52:47,235 Folks can tune in live from anywhere as long 1033 00:52:47,235 --> 00:52:48,555 as you have a computer and the internet. 1034 00:52:49,155 --> 00:52:51,075 You can listen to WEVX, 1035 00:52:51,535 --> 00:52:54,875 you can watch all three channels. 1036 00:52:57,975 --> 00:53:02,515 And we have an expanding social media presence, 1037 00:53:02,905 --> 00:53:07,395 primarily Facebook and Instagram right now. 1038 00:53:07,655 --> 00:53:11,795 As we sort of, as I mentioned last year, we've last year 1039 00:53:11,795 --> 00:53:14,035 and the sort of year 1040 00:53:14,035 --> 00:53:16,835 before we transitioned from a lot of the projects and, 1041 00:53:17,255 --> 00:53:21,395 and investments that we've made in the large transition 1042 00:53:21,535 --> 00:53:24,915 of dairy cam and focus more on training, development 1043 00:53:25,345 --> 00:53:27,845 and optimizing our operations, right? 1044 00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:30,125 Protocols, processes, building all those out. 1045 00:53:30,395 --> 00:53:34,685 Part of that came, part of that 1046 00:53:35,475 --> 00:53:37,805 plan involves increased social media, 1047 00:53:37,805 --> 00:53:39,125 particularly with multimedia. 1048 00:53:39,185 --> 00:53:42,725 So video. So you'll see a lot more of that coming 1049 00:53:42,725 --> 00:53:45,205 because let's face it, that's where people are. 1050 00:53:45,435 --> 00:53:48,285 They're on their devices, they're on social media. 1051 00:53:49,135 --> 00:53:50,845 We've got to reach out to them 1052 00:53:51,385 --> 00:53:55,525 and grab them back hopefully right to the hub dairy cam.org 1053 00:53:55,615 --> 00:53:58,005 where they can then stay connected, stay informed. 1054 00:53:58,225 --> 00:54:01,995 But what's happening here in the municipality town offices 1055 00:54:02,895 --> 00:54:04,795 around town with our community partners 1056 00:54:05,175 --> 00:54:09,595 and amongst each other in the community provide coverage 1057 00:54:09,595 --> 00:54:11,315 of government meetings, local news, 1058 00:54:11,315 --> 00:54:13,595 community events and youth programming. 1059 00:54:22,255 --> 00:54:26,245 Let's get right to the numbers. Picture says it all. 1060 00:54:26,595 --> 00:54:30,085 What you're seeing there is from the budget book, 1061 00:54:30,435 --> 00:54:35,085 this is the last four years represented sequentially there. 1062 00:54:36,905 --> 00:54:39,445 Up on the top graph, those are requests. 1063 00:54:39,625 --> 00:54:40,685 So these were the, the, 1064 00:54:41,545 --> 00:54:45,205 the actual requested budgets over the past four years in 1065 00:54:45,205 --> 00:54:46,325 the respective categories. 1066 00:54:46,325 --> 00:54:48,765 Personnel, operations, capital and transfers. 1067 00:54:49,105 --> 00:54:53,605 You'll see a bump there for that capital there. 1068 00:54:53,605 --> 00:54:55,885 And going back to 24, let's see 1069 00:54:55,885 --> 00:54:59,885 where we required our mobile capability with our new truck 1070 00:55:00,565 --> 00:55:03,605 F three 50, which we just entered phase two. 1071 00:55:03,795 --> 00:55:07,045 This this fiscal year where we upfitted that with our 1072 00:55:07,885 --> 00:55:10,605 enclosed service body. 1073 00:55:10,745 --> 00:55:13,405 So that's a game changer. That's gonna save a lot of time, 1074 00:55:13,645 --> 00:55:15,405 a lot of energy loading 1075 00:55:15,405 --> 00:55:18,805 and unloading for all the, we call 'em gigs. 1076 00:55:19,145 --> 00:55:21,445 All of the events that we cover around town 1077 00:55:21,545 --> 00:55:22,685 and we're able to dispatch 1078 00:55:22,785 --> 00:55:27,645 and deploy a lot, much more nimbly and quick. 1079 00:55:28,685 --> 00:55:31,365 And then down below you see the request compared 1080 00:55:31,365 --> 00:55:35,495 to last year, You'll see a drastic 1081 00:55:36,295 --> 00:55:40,735 reduction in certainly personnel. 1082 00:55:41,145 --> 00:55:44,055 We've eliminated a few open positions that we have, 1083 00:55:44,465 --> 00:55:46,855 which is going to create some challenge 1084 00:55:46,855 --> 00:55:47,935 frankly moving forward. 1085 00:55:49,985 --> 00:55:51,895 Those were specialist positions. 1086 00:55:52,855 --> 00:55:54,855 Intermediate, if you will, folks 1087 00:55:54,855 --> 00:55:59,215 that might have experience editing or in pre principle 1088 00:55:59,215 --> 00:56:02,175 or post-production that might find their way to dairy cam 1089 00:56:02,175 --> 00:56:04,495 or we might find our way to them and recruit. 1090 00:56:05,955 --> 00:56:08,375 So post-production is really one 1091 00:56:08,375 --> 00:56:09,535 of our biggest challenges right now. 1092 00:56:10,595 --> 00:56:13,135 We can go out and we can capture all the 1093 00:56:13,135 --> 00:56:14,865 events all day long. 1094 00:56:15,535 --> 00:56:18,065 It's very difficult but it's the easy part. 1095 00:56:19,165 --> 00:56:21,545 The hard part is creatively 1096 00:56:26,085 --> 00:56:28,765 bringing all of what we capture together and making 1097 00:56:29,065 --> 00:56:30,445 and enhancing it in such a way 1098 00:56:30,445 --> 00:56:32,965 that it will captivate an audience and 1099 00:56:32,965 --> 00:56:34,605 therefore be relevant and watched. 1100 00:56:35,345 --> 00:56:37,005 So it becomes a vicious cycle 1101 00:56:37,705 --> 00:56:39,085 if we go out and capture events. 1102 00:56:39,745 --> 00:56:42,325 And then we've gotta a backlog of projects that 1103 00:56:42,325 --> 00:56:44,325 where they're stuck on the conveyor belt, if you will. 1104 00:56:45,025 --> 00:56:46,925 So at this time, 1105 00:56:48,505 --> 00:56:50,385 I wouldn't say we're doing minimum viable output, 1106 00:56:50,805 --> 00:56:52,145 but we can do a lot more. 1107 00:56:52,145 --> 00:56:53,745 There's a lot more opportunity there, 1108 00:56:53,845 --> 00:56:57,385 but we just need to, you know, we need more hands 1109 00:56:57,965 --> 00:56:59,025 on deck, which is a challenge. 1110 00:57:00,715 --> 00:57:04,755 And this is the, the big challenge, Again, 1111 00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:07,355 you've heard me mention this the past recent 1112 00:57:07,385 --> 00:57:08,595 year budget presentation. 1113 00:57:09,225 --> 00:57:12,505 Here it is in blue and red. 1114 00:57:14,995 --> 00:57:19,635 These are revenues the past 1115 00:57:19,775 --> 00:57:22,605 few years what you're seeing is 1116 00:57:25,095 --> 00:57:28,335 a decline in folks subscribing to cable. 1117 00:57:29,315 --> 00:57:33,455 So when we talk about a franchise fee that is given 1118 00:57:33,475 --> 00:57:36,975 to Comcast in, in dairy happens to be Comcast subscribers, 1119 00:57:37,925 --> 00:57:41,615 that fee is, is assessed only on the video portion 1120 00:57:42,075 --> 00:57:43,735 or television, cable television. 1121 00:57:43,875 --> 00:57:46,335 So as you know, you can bundle a Comcast bill, 1122 00:57:46,335 --> 00:57:49,415 you can get home security, you can get telephone, 1123 00:57:50,275 --> 00:57:52,655 you can get internet, you can get tv. 1124 00:57:55,825 --> 00:57:59,485 The way the law is written at this current time, 1125 00:58:00,875 --> 00:58:02,685 only the TV portion can be assessed. 1126 00:58:03,585 --> 00:58:06,725 So if folks get internet only then no cable tv 1127 00:58:07,245 --> 00:58:10,005 'cause they don't use it, we lose. 1128 00:58:10,025 --> 00:58:11,085 And that's what's happening here. 1129 00:58:12,625 --> 00:58:17,055 So It's real. We've gotta do something about it. 1130 00:58:17,555 --> 00:58:21,055 And I would consider this a, Mike and I have talked 1131 00:58:21,195 --> 00:58:23,255 and agreed that we really need 1132 00:58:23,255 --> 00:58:24,335 to take a deep dive this year. 1133 00:58:25,075 --> 00:58:29,895 So consider this a prelude to a deeper dive will come 1134 00:58:29,895 --> 00:58:32,455 before you having done some more. 1135 00:58:33,185 --> 00:58:36,135 We've done plenty of research and, and looking at options. 1136 00:58:36,235 --> 00:58:38,935 But we're gonna do some more fine tuning based on current 1137 00:58:39,335 --> 00:58:41,855 situation and what we know now 'cause it's changing. 1138 00:58:43,195 --> 00:58:45,375 And we're gonna label for you some options, 1139 00:58:45,645 --> 00:58:47,735 some suggestions, some considerations. 1140 00:58:47,735 --> 00:58:49,615 And we really want your input as 1141 00:58:49,615 --> 00:58:52,055 to the direction you'd like the division to go. 1142 00:58:56,585 --> 00:59:01,475 What do we do now? Earlier this week we're, 1143 00:59:01,475 --> 00:59:04,245 we're certainly not gonna lay down 1144 00:59:04,265 --> 00:59:07,045 or standby, we're not gonna think of the only option 1145 00:59:07,065 --> 00:59:11,085 as dairy needs to kind of pick up the tab for this. 1146 00:59:11,575 --> 00:59:13,245 We're gonna look, explore all options 1147 00:59:13,515 --> 00:59:14,725 including right to the top. 1148 00:59:15,105 --> 00:59:17,805 So earlier this week, did some advocacy work, 1149 00:59:20,075 --> 00:59:23,725 Met with Commissioner Gomez, met with the offices of 1150 00:59:24,965 --> 00:59:27,145 our full federal delegation in their 1151 00:59:27,805 --> 00:59:29,185 senate and house offices. 1152 00:59:31,255 --> 00:59:34,025 Basically in support of some, in support of one piece 1153 00:59:34,025 --> 00:59:38,105 of legislation and asking them to, you know, 1154 00:59:38,125 --> 00:59:41,465 strike down another p another bill that's on its way up 1155 00:59:41,465 --> 00:59:45,545 that will take that really squelches local control 1156 00:59:47,135 --> 00:59:50,275 has to do with ba basically if we did that cable industry, 1157 00:59:50,495 --> 00:59:52,955 if, if that bill went forward, cable industry would be able 1158 00:59:52,955 --> 00:59:54,395 to kind of write their own, 1159 00:59:54,445 --> 00:59:56,115 write their own rules moving forward. 1160 00:59:56,935 --> 00:59:58,745 And we know we don't want that in New Hampshire. 1161 00:59:59,005 --> 01:00:00,385 We certainly don't want it in dairy. 1162 01:00:01,085 --> 01:00:02,745 So we're gonna do everything we can to mobilize. 1163 01:00:03,295 --> 01:00:05,865 Take action on that again. 1164 01:00:05,865 --> 01:00:08,545 The next, what are we gonna do more 1165 01:00:08,545 --> 01:00:11,225 to come we'll all have a community and a, 1166 01:00:11,225 --> 01:00:14,185 and a leadership discussion on where we are. 1167 01:00:14,555 --> 01:00:17,905 Clear picture and some considerations moving forward. 1168 01:00:18,435 --> 01:00:21,105 Dairy will have a seat at the table on my watch. 1169 01:00:21,245 --> 01:00:25,345 That's just how we're gonna roll. We're working hard. 1170 01:00:25,345 --> 01:00:30,225 What you see on the right is our board. 1171 01:00:30,725 --> 01:00:32,425 I'm a member of the Alliance for Community Media. 1172 01:00:32,875 --> 01:00:34,985 While we were in DC we took the opportunity 1173 01:00:34,985 --> 01:00:38,745 to meet in person and strategize moving forward. 1174 01:00:40,485 --> 01:00:44,025 As I said, this is, this is not a new phenomenon, it's just 1175 01:00:44,865 --> 01:00:45,865 becoming more and more real. 1176 01:00:45,865 --> 01:00:47,465 This is the time we need to take action. 1177 01:00:47,605 --> 01:00:50,745 So it's kind of a, a compressed sort of timeline here. 1178 01:00:51,215 --> 01:00:55,345 Certainly continue to work with federal delegation, work 1179 01:00:55,425 --> 01:00:56,745 with New Hampshire legislature. 1180 01:00:56,745 --> 01:00:58,305 There are things states can do. 1181 01:00:59,795 --> 01:01:02,745 There are things that our neighboring states have done that 1182 01:01:04,315 --> 01:01:06,995 I think we would all agree would not favor well in 1183 01:01:06,995 --> 01:01:10,195 New Hampshire include the T word taxation. 1184 01:01:11,415 --> 01:01:15,835 But you know, Maine looked for a little bit at, 1185 01:01:16,375 --> 01:01:20,845 at actually taxing the big companies, YouTube and, 1186 01:01:20,905 --> 01:01:23,245 and the folks that are streaming over that infrastructure, 1187 01:01:23,385 --> 01:01:26,085 the public property that is the right of way 1188 01:01:26,475 --> 01:01:29,005 that the public deserves compensation for the use 1189 01:01:29,555 --> 01:01:30,685 from these corporations. 1190 01:01:30,955 --> 01:01:34,285 Monthly, millions of dollars are made on our property 1191 01:01:34,385 --> 01:01:35,965 and there should be a fair exchange for that. 1192 01:01:36,785 --> 01:01:38,005 So I'll keep fighting for that. 1193 01:01:38,335 --> 01:01:40,645 We'll continue to explore practical revenue models 1194 01:01:40,645 --> 01:01:43,325 that we can work on in house that it will include. 1195 01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:46,365 We've mentioned before Councillor Webb, of course you, 1196 01:01:46,605 --> 01:01:49,085 I recall you mentioning sponsorship, things like that. 1197 01:01:49,085 --> 01:01:51,085 That's part of our diversification of the, 1198 01:01:51,265 --> 01:01:53,925 of the media footprint we have with the radio station. 1199 01:01:54,795 --> 01:01:58,405 Believe it or not, it's even with higher sort 1200 01:01:58,405 --> 01:02:00,045 of regulation over the radio station. 1201 01:02:01,615 --> 01:02:05,725 We're more open to sponsorship on the, on the station. 1202 01:02:05,785 --> 01:02:08,605 So we're really building that out when developing program 1203 01:02:09,755 --> 01:02:11,605 that that our local community's gonna love. 1204 01:02:11,865 --> 01:02:15,965 I'm sure we can look at service model options. 1205 01:02:16,305 --> 01:02:18,685 We can look at how we can just the ser adjust the services 1206 01:02:18,825 --> 01:02:21,925 we provide make primarily we've gotta 1207 01:02:21,925 --> 01:02:23,005 meet the needs of the community. 1208 01:02:23,105 --> 01:02:24,605 That's what we're always looking to do. 1209 01:02:26,585 --> 01:02:28,605 But how can we do that in a sustainable way? 1210 01:02:29,595 --> 01:02:31,005 This we have a great investment here. 1211 01:02:31,005 --> 01:02:33,005 We have a great tool here. 1212 01:02:33,605 --> 01:02:36,925 People long before my time, we're forward thinking 1213 01:02:37,345 --> 01:02:40,405 and establish this cable division when not every community 1214 01:02:40,505 --> 01:02:44,125 has, we're very lucky to have the infrastructure, 1215 01:02:44,785 --> 01:02:46,165 and I use that word intentionally. 1216 01:02:47,715 --> 01:02:49,085 Community media in this day 1217 01:02:49,085 --> 01:02:51,085 and age is more important than ever. 1218 01:02:52,475 --> 01:02:54,765 When we all go home and we swipe 1219 01:02:56,935 --> 01:02:59,295 is becoming harder and harder to tell what's real anymore. 1220 01:03:01,055 --> 01:03:04,675 But what happens in dairy is real and we can capture that 1221 01:03:05,095 --> 01:03:07,795 and we can own our own media here in dairy. 1222 01:03:11,085 --> 01:03:12,435 We're gonna continue also 1223 01:03:12,435 --> 01:03:14,395 to provide the best service possible on 1224 01:03:14,455 --> 01:03:15,595 the current constraints. 1225 01:03:16,135 --> 01:03:18,435 And we're gonna lean on our culture of innovation 1226 01:03:18,775 --> 01:03:20,995 and creativity to find the solutions we need 1227 01:03:21,855 --> 01:03:23,275 to survive to thrive. 1228 01:03:25,865 --> 01:03:29,015 So that's a good note to end on. 1229 01:03:30,905 --> 01:03:34,095 Happy to take any questions, counts the foot. 1230 01:03:34,345 --> 01:03:36,815 Thank you Madam Chair. Well first of all, thank you 1231 01:03:36,815 --> 01:03:37,935 for all you guys do. 1232 01:03:37,935 --> 01:03:40,335 Your crew, for those who don't know, they're everywhere. 1233 01:03:41,505 --> 01:03:43,375 Every, pretty much every event that goes on in dairy, 1234 01:03:43,905 --> 01:03:45,255 dairy camp crew is always there. 1235 01:03:45,355 --> 01:03:46,975 So, so thank you for that. 1236 01:03:48,135 --> 01:03:51,815 I I know the, the income's, the income's a little tight, 1237 01:03:51,835 --> 01:03:55,655 but do you have any capital improvement plans projected in 1238 01:03:55,655 --> 01:03:56,775 the next couple of years? 1239 01:03:58,835 --> 01:04:02,295 We do and we always in, in light of these declining 1240 01:04:02,295 --> 01:04:04,295 that chart that you saw, we, we try 1241 01:04:04,295 --> 01:04:05,495 to stay as fluid as possible. 1242 01:04:05,905 --> 01:04:08,055 We've got projects that are on the burner 1243 01:04:08,635 --> 01:04:11,535 and as we see quarter by quarter we get indicate, 1244 01:04:11,695 --> 01:04:13,215 we get direct feedback on 1245 01:04:13,365 --> 01:04:15,375 what we've got coming in and what we can use. 1246 01:04:16,455 --> 01:04:19,135 I try to stay cautious and conservative throughout the year. 1247 01:04:19,595 --> 01:04:22,175 You'll see a lot of my capital expenditures 1248 01:04:22,245 --> 01:04:23,575 towards the end of the year. 1249 01:04:24,485 --> 01:04:26,895 Finance loves that, but they, they tolerate it. 1250 01:04:27,125 --> 01:04:29,295 They're a great team and I love working with them. 1251 01:04:29,965 --> 01:04:32,455 They, I couldn't do a lot without their support. 1252 01:04:32,575 --> 01:04:35,455 I really appreciate them. But that's, 1253 01:04:35,455 --> 01:04:36,735 that's the reason why there's a, 1254 01:04:36,735 --> 01:04:38,255 there's a strategy behind that. So answer 1255 01:04:38,925 --> 01:04:43,015 Your question in jeopardy, any of these programs or 1256 01:04:43,015 --> 01:04:44,015 Projects? 1257 01:04:44,015 --> 01:04:44,695 I mean we're reducing, again, 1258 01:04:44,925 --> 01:04:46,935 just staying fluid counselor foot 1259 01:04:46,955 --> 01:04:50,175 and just if, if I've got a smaller scale project, 1260 01:04:50,645 --> 01:04:53,975 like maybe the next phase in opera house connectivity, 1261 01:04:55,905 --> 01:04:58,255 we'll we'll kind of try to address that. 1262 01:04:58,255 --> 01:05:01,935 Something we know we can complete at least a phase of so 1263 01:05:01,935 --> 01:05:03,775 that if we don't receive what we expect, 1264 01:05:05,555 --> 01:05:07,055 we can at least complete something 1265 01:05:07,055 --> 01:05:08,215 and, and keep moving forward. 1266 01:05:08,555 --> 01:05:10,975 But to answer your question, I'm really looking forward 1267 01:05:11,035 --> 01:05:14,775 to getting to finalizing termination points, 1268 01:05:15,125 --> 01:05:17,965 including cameras in the opera house so that 1269 01:05:17,965 --> 01:05:22,165 as events happen there, like candidate forums, 1270 01:05:22,795 --> 01:05:27,245 town forums, more a diverse offering 1271 01:05:27,245 --> 01:05:29,125 of entertainment comes there. 1272 01:05:29,945 --> 01:05:32,085 We can capture that with that connectivity 1273 01:05:32,755 --> 01:05:34,765 down into the master control suite 1274 01:05:35,265 --> 01:05:36,725 and the control room downstairs. 1275 01:05:37,075 --> 01:05:38,075 Okay, 1276 01:05:38,385 --> 01:05:39,385 One more. 1277 01:05:39,585 --> 01:05:42,165 And, and so to that point actually, so the, 1278 01:05:42,235 --> 01:05:45,405 with the Opera House for example, so I know they rent out 1279 01:05:45,405 --> 01:05:47,005 to a lot of other organizations, 1280 01:05:47,005 --> 01:05:48,125 private organizations to that. 1281 01:05:48,545 --> 01:05:51,365 Is there ever any intertwined between Dairy CAM 1282 01:05:51,365 --> 01:05:52,485 and those private organizations? 1283 01:05:52,565 --> 01:05:54,485 Broadcasting for them specifically? 1284 01:05:54,665 --> 01:05:57,565 Yes. Mostly non-profit entities that come in. 1285 01:05:57,865 --> 01:06:01,885 And again, it's very valuable to them to capture something 1286 01:06:02,195 --> 01:06:03,885 that they can then share far and wide. 1287 01:06:04,345 --> 01:06:06,485 It increases the legs on that content 1288 01:06:06,785 --> 01:06:08,805 and their messaging, whatever their priorities may be. 1289 01:06:10,985 --> 01:06:13,885 So we partnered with community caregivers 1290 01:06:14,925 --> 01:06:16,865 and they had a theater project come through 1291 01:06:16,865 --> 01:06:18,305 with very meaningful topics. 1292 01:06:18,725 --> 01:06:19,945 You can watch it on dairy tv 1293 01:06:20,925 --> 01:06:24,105 and we had worked actually with those organizations 1294 01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,785 during COVID when there were no other 1295 01:06:25,785 --> 01:06:27,025 options for these performances. 1296 01:06:27,135 --> 01:06:29,465 They did a, they produced a virtual performance. 1297 01:06:29,765 --> 01:06:31,345 We were able to get that out 1298 01:06:31,345 --> 01:06:34,825 for them statewide. So 1299 01:06:35,815 --> 01:06:38,705 What about the, the private organizations 1300 01:06:38,885 --> 01:06:40,225 as far as like a nonprofit? 1301 01:06:40,485 --> 01:06:45,305 Is there any kind ability to do that, to, to air those 1302 01:06:45,565 --> 01:06:49,505 or is that against if you had any kind of franchise rules 1303 01:06:49,685 --> 01:06:52,105 or I'm sorry, is it against any kind of franchise rules 1304 01:06:52,125 --> 01:06:54,825 or anything like that to to, to air 1305 01:06:55,755 --> 01:06:57,345 those other organizations? It 1306 01:06:57,345 --> 01:07:00,865 Would be a case by case basis in terms of what's if, 1307 01:07:00,865 --> 01:07:04,185 if somebody were up there pitching some sort of project. 1308 01:07:04,185 --> 01:07:05,865 Certainly the big, the big thing is no 1309 01:07:06,245 --> 01:07:07,585 non-commercial, right? 1310 01:07:07,725 --> 01:07:10,745 So if there were direct calls to action for a sale, 1311 01:07:11,635 --> 01:07:13,985 which typically wouldn't find in a venue like that, 1312 01:07:13,985 --> 01:07:17,265 but you never know, you know, that would be the only thing. 1313 01:07:17,265 --> 01:07:18,865 We'd have to keep an eye out for that. 1314 01:07:18,925 --> 01:07:21,105 And if there, if it was a performance of any kind, 1315 01:07:21,105 --> 01:07:23,105 we wanna make sure we understand who holds the rights 1316 01:07:23,105 --> 01:07:25,425 to those, the performance and the material 1317 01:07:25,645 --> 01:07:26,905 and make sure we get clearance for 1318 01:07:27,025 --> 01:07:28,065 that and make sure it's okay. 1319 01:07:28,475 --> 01:07:30,745 Other than that, that, you know, 1320 01:07:32,115 --> 01:07:34,175 I'd say whatever we could think up. 1321 01:07:34,405 --> 01:07:35,775 Okay, thank You. We could do, 1322 01:07:38,775 --> 01:07:39,775 I had a question. 1323 01:07:39,775 --> 01:07:40,815 I think you kind of started to answer it. 1324 01:07:40,815 --> 01:07:43,055 I was going to ask that when is their ability to work 1325 01:07:43,055 --> 01:07:45,135 with like the streaming services and stuff to, 1326 01:07:45,135 --> 01:07:47,735 and it sounds like there is some already some kind 1327 01:07:47,735 --> 01:07:50,215 of thought of how to capture revenue through that. 1328 01:07:52,155 --> 01:07:53,605 I'll just say, you know, we can, 1329 01:07:53,625 --> 01:07:55,645 we can talk about this later in the year when we, 1330 01:07:55,645 --> 01:07:58,485 when we need up, but there's just a lot of pushback 1331 01:07:59,155 --> 01:08:04,005 from the industry and they've got everything they need 1332 01:08:04,005 --> 01:08:07,005 to push back really hard. Lots of money. 1333 01:08:07,755 --> 01:08:10,605 Yeah. Council Mills. 1334 01:08:11,135 --> 01:08:14,645 Thank you Madam Chair. I have a question regarding WEVX. 1335 01:08:14,675 --> 01:08:17,285 That is a, that's our streaming radio service 1336 01:08:18,395 --> 01:08:20,565 That is an over the air broadcast station. 1337 01:08:20,565 --> 01:08:22,965 It's a low power FM 95.1. 1338 01:08:23,545 --> 01:08:25,485 Do we have, and I think you said this 1339 01:08:25,485 --> 01:08:26,845 but I just wanna make sure I understood. 1340 01:08:26,985 --> 01:08:30,045 Do we have the ability to override it in case 1341 01:08:30,045 --> 01:08:31,685 of an emergency if we wanted to use it 1342 01:08:31,685 --> 01:08:33,205 for emergency broadcasting? That 1343 01:08:33,205 --> 01:08:34,725 Is exactly the plan counselor. 1344 01:08:35,305 --> 01:08:38,325 We are actually, we have on the, on the books to, to speak 1345 01:08:38,325 --> 01:08:40,405 with the communications team over at both fire 1346 01:08:40,505 --> 01:08:41,925 and police so 1347 01:08:41,925 --> 01:08:45,405 that we've got the messaging prepared in any likely event. 1348 01:08:45,425 --> 01:08:46,485 We actually have it in house. 1349 01:08:46,505 --> 01:08:49,485 We have messaging prepared for any likely event so 1350 01:08:49,485 --> 01:08:52,845 that it can be deployed up upon collaboration, you know, 1351 01:08:52,845 --> 01:08:53,925 with emergency services. 1352 01:08:54,265 --> 01:08:57,205 And we keep an eye on things like the reverse 9 1 1 and, 1353 01:08:57,505 --> 01:08:59,565 and any messaging going out of a social media. 1354 01:08:59,665 --> 01:09:01,845 And we relay that over all of our channels. 1355 01:09:02,585 --> 01:09:05,245 But in the, in, in the event of a, let's say an EO ceva 1356 01:09:06,895 --> 01:09:10,485 activation, we're, we're right there in the room 1357 01:09:11,185 --> 01:09:15,525 and we're working with the team to determine what to deploy 1358 01:09:15,545 --> 01:09:16,925 and what messaging to send out. 1359 01:09:17,345 --> 01:09:20,565 And as best we can, we'll have it ready now. 1360 01:09:21,695 --> 01:09:23,645 Thank you. Yes, sir. Council clerk, 1361 01:09:24,075 --> 01:09:25,445 This isn't as much of a question 1362 01:09:25,465 --> 01:09:27,925 as is a preach in the sense in this day 1363 01:09:27,925 --> 01:09:32,125 and age where we're losing control of all our local news 1364 01:09:32,305 --> 01:09:35,405 and, and input where everything's national news, 1365 01:09:35,845 --> 01:09:39,565 national radio, national newspapers, it'd be nice 1366 01:09:39,625 --> 01:09:42,445 for the public to support this kind 1367 01:09:42,445 --> 01:09:43,965 of programming a little more. 1368 01:09:43,965 --> 01:09:48,445 See better numbers. Because this is where, 1369 01:09:48,825 --> 01:09:51,045 you know, all the information they claim they can't get 1370 01:09:51,185 --> 01:09:52,245 is it's all here. 1371 01:09:53,675 --> 01:09:56,325 They, they should, you know, focus more on local. 1372 01:09:57,605 --> 01:10:00,805 I mean, this is our community. We have our own TV show. 1373 01:10:00,805 --> 01:10:03,525 We have our own news outlets. 1374 01:10:03,545 --> 01:10:06,245 If you, you know, like they say newspapers are dying, its 1375 01:10:06,245 --> 01:10:09,925 because newspapers are owned by 20 communities 1376 01:10:10,225 --> 01:10:13,645 and none of them focus on dairy like you guys do. 1377 01:10:14,465 --> 01:10:17,685 You just need to, people just need to, you know, 1378 01:10:17,715 --> 01:10:20,085 know the resources there and start using it. 1379 01:10:21,585 --> 01:10:22,895 Thank you council. Using it better. 1380 01:10:23,255 --> 01:10:26,295 I appreciate the, the, the comment, if I may, you know, 1381 01:10:26,415 --> 01:10:28,615 I agree with you now more than ever, we have a news desert 1382 01:10:28,875 --> 01:10:31,095 that's increasing all departments. 1383 01:10:31,535 --> 01:10:34,735 I talk with Bev and economic development weekly, 1384 01:10:34,735 --> 01:10:36,615 monthly on how do we get in. 1385 01:10:36,615 --> 01:10:37,855 There's a huge disconnect. 1386 01:10:37,855 --> 01:10:39,575 Everybody seems like they're on Facebook, 1387 01:10:41,435 --> 01:10:43,855 but then they didn't realize it was election day. 1388 01:10:43,855 --> 01:10:46,055 Right? Yeah. We, we are hearing that feedback. 1389 01:10:46,595 --> 01:10:49,175 So how that's, that's our mission, that we're taking 1390 01:10:49,175 --> 01:10:51,455 that very seriously and we're looking at ways we can fill 1391 01:10:51,455 --> 01:10:52,695 these gaps and solve these problems. 1392 01:10:52,695 --> 01:10:54,855 Working with the departments, working with administration 1393 01:10:55,435 --> 01:10:58,415 and anybody to make sure that we can have, 1394 01:10:58,415 --> 01:11:01,695 and that's the idea behind, I invite anybody here 1395 01:11:01,755 --> 01:11:04,615 or at home who hasn't go to dairy cam.org, 1396 01:11:05,115 --> 01:11:07,095 not only check out the tune in page, which is 1397 01:11:07,095 --> 01:11:08,095 that QR code there, 1398 01:11:08,395 --> 01:11:10,015 but look at the dairy happenings calendar. 1399 01:11:10,085 --> 01:11:12,575 That came out of a, a request that was pre COVID. 1400 01:11:13,425 --> 01:11:17,445 And we had two nonprofit organizations that sch, that had, 1401 01:11:17,715 --> 01:11:19,645 some of us may have, may have attended there, 1402 01:11:19,705 --> 01:11:24,365 but both of their gala fundraising events on the same day. 1403 01:11:25,225 --> 01:11:26,365 It was, there was a disconnect. 1404 01:11:27,105 --> 01:11:30,645 So we heard the call to create a single calendar 1405 01:11:31,035 --> 01:11:32,045 that folks can use. 1406 01:11:32,045 --> 01:11:34,045 So not only, we're not just putting stuff on there, 1407 01:11:34,105 --> 01:11:36,405 we invite everybody and there's a little helpful video. 1408 01:11:36,985 --> 01:11:40,885 Any organization can enter their events there. 1409 01:11:41,025 --> 01:11:43,965 So folks can just go to hopefully one calendar. 1410 01:11:45,685 --> 01:11:46,685 Ultimately that's what we'd like to see. 1411 01:11:46,685 --> 01:11:48,005 So we wanna see more use out of that. 1412 01:11:48,625 --> 01:11:51,605 We have blog pages that perhaps 1413 01:11:52,675 --> 01:11:55,765 that we can promote that end up saying maybe 1414 01:11:56,145 --> 01:11:57,685 for example, election information. 1415 01:11:58,195 --> 01:11:59,405 Well, people may find that, 1416 01:11:59,425 --> 01:12:01,245 but they may not find the election information. 1417 01:12:01,245 --> 01:12:03,325 That's all that's here on the town website. 1418 01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:05,365 We guide right to the town website. 1419 01:12:05,385 --> 01:12:07,005 We always go to source information. 1420 01:12:07,135 --> 01:12:08,605 We're not gonna recreate anything 1421 01:12:08,605 --> 01:12:10,405 and have that opportunity for, for 1422 01:12:10,405 --> 01:12:12,205 that disinformation or misinformation. 1423 01:12:12,625 --> 01:12:15,045 We want to guide people right to directly to the source. 1424 01:12:16,465 --> 01:12:21,245 So between the news deserts across the country, you know, 1425 01:12:21,425 --> 01:12:24,085 we just don't want to, we want to, resilient is a word 1426 01:12:24,085 --> 01:12:27,005 that's used in, in, in, in public safety. 1427 01:12:28,125 --> 01:12:30,565 I think. I think we're, we've got a little bit 1428 01:12:30,565 --> 01:12:31,565 of a crisis when it comes 1429 01:12:31,585 --> 01:12:33,245 to information and getting that out. 1430 01:12:33,245 --> 01:12:37,285 And I think our goal is to keep dairy resilient. 1431 01:12:37,505 --> 01:12:40,405 We take our, our sort of slogan very seriously. 1432 01:12:40,985 --> 01:12:45,045 The more connected dairy is, the more resilient we are 1433 01:12:45,865 --> 01:12:47,325 and the stronger we're gonna be. 1434 01:12:50,315 --> 01:12:52,605 Council what, Just a couple things. 1435 01:12:52,725 --> 01:12:56,885 I really wanna re reiterate what Councilor Flood had said 1436 01:12:57,725 --> 01:13:00,965 because it's one of my significant frustrations, you know, 1437 01:13:00,965 --> 01:13:03,325 looking over at a blank wall over there that used to have 1438 01:13:04,135 --> 01:13:05,845 dairy news, Nutfield news 1439 01:13:05,945 --> 01:13:09,765 and Union leader reporter, they don't report on anything 1440 01:13:09,765 --> 01:13:11,445 that's occurring right now. 1441 01:13:11,545 --> 01:13:15,085 And it's getting to the point that yes, we are a news desert 1442 01:13:15,665 --> 01:13:16,965 now not becoming one. 1443 01:13:16,965 --> 01:13:19,325 We have to, we are, we are that news desert. 1444 01:13:19,905 --> 01:13:23,605 And I think that if we want to have true 1445 01:13:24,195 --> 01:13:28,925 open government, we need to have an information service. 1446 01:13:29,665 --> 01:13:33,405 We can no longer rely on the union leader for, 1447 01:13:33,405 --> 01:13:35,725 because they're failing dairy news. 1448 01:13:36,685 --> 01:13:39,765 I have haven't seen a hard news article in them in ages. 1449 01:13:41,185 --> 01:13:42,445 So I think it's important. 1450 01:13:42,625 --> 01:13:45,605 And with that, it sounds like you need 1451 01:13:45,605 --> 01:13:47,685 to look at developing almost like a five 1452 01:13:47,685 --> 01:13:49,405 year strategic plan. Yeah, and I 1453 01:13:49,405 --> 01:13:52,805 Was, And going with that 1454 01:13:55,075 --> 01:13:56,765 because we've been talking like news. 1455 01:13:56,905 --> 01:13:58,405 The other valuable resource you have 1456 01:13:58,405 --> 01:13:59,485 to the town is the opportunity 1457 01:13:59,485 --> 01:14:01,645 that you give pretty much anybody to come 1458 01:14:01,645 --> 01:14:02,845 and learn about how to produce 1459 01:14:05,345 --> 01:14:09,805 and you know, it's a, a live way for in essence 1460 01:14:10,805 --> 01:14:12,725 somebody to learn, earn college credits. 1461 01:14:13,375 --> 01:14:14,405 Might not be a college, 1462 01:14:15,105 --> 01:14:17,165 but to earn that experience that they can apply. 1463 01:14:18,345 --> 01:14:19,345 So 1464 01:14:20,325 --> 01:14:21,325 Absolutely. 1465 01:14:21,325 --> 01:14:23,405 On that, on that note, if I may, I can't be at the mic, 1466 01:14:23,565 --> 01:14:26,885 I would be remiss if I didn't shout out my dream team Dairy 1467 01:14:26,885 --> 01:14:28,365 camp Dream team, loud and proud. 1468 01:14:28,595 --> 01:14:30,685 It's because of them we can do, 1469 01:14:31,265 --> 01:14:32,525 that's why you see us everywhere. 1470 01:14:32,525 --> 01:14:34,445 Yeah. They are dedicated, they're willing, 1471 01:14:34,515 --> 01:14:38,765 they get the mission, they understand what's going on. 1472 01:14:38,765 --> 01:14:41,565 That's Catherine Mamo, Ben Morris, Brady Miller, 1473 01:14:41,675 --> 01:14:43,485 Kyle Schreiber, Jeremy Tremaine. 1474 01:14:44,025 --> 01:14:47,515 I'd also like to mention 1475 01:14:47,735 --> 01:14:49,915 and shout out our brand new interns. 1476 01:14:50,255 --> 01:14:52,995 We take school to work very seriously. 1477 01:14:53,855 --> 01:14:57,635 We have, since my time 1478 01:14:58,485 --> 01:15:02,555 about eight, nine years now, we've had a continuous feed 1479 01:15:02,555 --> 01:15:04,355 of interns both locally from the high schools, 1480 01:15:05,125 --> 01:15:06,635 regionally from colleges. 1481 01:15:06,635 --> 01:15:08,955 They're finding out about us, knocking on our door 1482 01:15:10,175 --> 01:15:12,195 and they're getting that credit, they're getting 1483 01:15:12,195 --> 01:15:15,475 that experience and some of 'em are going off 1484 01:15:15,575 --> 01:15:20,475 and working at news outlets in, in in the area. 1485 01:15:20,505 --> 01:15:22,955 Some of them are because due to the work that they've done 1486 01:15:23,095 --> 01:15:25,995 and that the body of work they've created, they've gone off 1487 01:15:26,055 --> 01:15:29,075 and gotten scholarships at prestigious film schools. 1488 01:15:29,615 --> 01:15:34,115 So there's, there's a lot going on there as well in the, 1489 01:15:34,115 --> 01:15:35,835 in the, in the young team that we've got. 1490 01:15:35,895 --> 01:15:38,955 And this, this year's we interns 1491 01:15:38,955 --> 01:15:41,315 that we've recently welcomed in our Aaron Hagman, 1492 01:15:41,625 --> 01:15:43,515 he's attending next charter school 1493 01:15:43,935 --> 01:15:47,195 and Gavin McDough who's actually coming in from out of town 1494 01:15:47,215 --> 01:15:50,955 and volunteering alongside, he's actually here tonight, 1495 01:15:50,955 --> 01:15:52,075 downstairs doing a little bit 1496 01:15:52,075 --> 01:15:54,035 of post-production editing 1497 01:15:54,235 --> 01:15:55,395 training 'cause that's where we need him. 1498 01:15:56,295 --> 01:15:58,995 So excited to have them on board and watch them grow. 1499 01:16:01,295 --> 01:16:03,395 One last thing, man. Yes. Thank you mania. 1500 01:16:03,835 --> 01:16:06,235 For those at home who don't know it's dairy cam, 1501 01:16:06,435 --> 01:16:07,595 a woodwind dairy cam. 1502 01:16:08,395 --> 01:16:10,595 I bless you. Yeah, if you just, can you highlight it then? 1503 01:16:10,675 --> 01:16:12,755 I know you did it a couple meetings ago, but it's, thank 1504 01:16:12,755 --> 01:16:13,795 You very much. 1505 01:16:13,795 --> 01:16:14,795 Free Press is good press. Right? 1506 01:16:15,235 --> 01:16:17,675 I appreciate you doing that without taking too much more 1507 01:16:17,815 --> 01:16:18,915 of everybody's time. 1508 01:16:20,025 --> 01:16:22,835 Very proud of the team in this respect as well. 1509 01:16:22,975 --> 01:16:25,675 We placed once again, so we've got a continuous streak 1510 01:16:27,435 --> 01:16:28,635 showing our proof of concept 1511 01:16:28,695 --> 01:16:31,155 and what we can do in categories, 1512 01:16:31,445 --> 01:16:34,795 three categories this last time around one, 1513 01:16:36,495 --> 01:16:38,875 one for independent programming and, 1514 01:16:38,895 --> 01:16:43,515 and that was for our All Things recovery program. 1515 01:16:44,015 --> 01:16:48,795 And we had a youth placement, which that was 1516 01:16:49,505 --> 01:16:51,915 over a tour by some, a couple of 1517 01:16:53,025 --> 01:16:55,955 fine young ladies giving us a tour of Jan F Farms, 1518 01:16:56,205 --> 01:16:57,555 which is timely for this year. 1519 01:16:57,695 --> 01:16:59,515 And we'll be replaying that for a while. 1520 01:17:00,215 --> 01:17:02,995 And then the overall excellence we placed in overall 1521 01:17:02,995 --> 01:17:05,795 excellence, which we've continuously done over the 1522 01:17:05,795 --> 01:17:07,155 past eight years or so. 1523 01:17:07,295 --> 01:17:10,205 So very proud of that. Mostly proud of the team. 1524 01:17:10,825 --> 01:17:14,325 And I will say that it's really when we, when we go 1525 01:17:14,325 --> 01:17:15,365 and show these pieces 1526 01:17:17,105 --> 01:17:19,645 and we have a number of entries throughout the region, 1527 01:17:19,825 --> 01:17:21,285 not only New England, New York state, 1528 01:17:21,395 --> 01:17:22,845 including the big city. 1529 01:17:24,305 --> 01:17:25,325 People are impressed. 1530 01:17:25,345 --> 01:17:26,725 And what they're impressed with is, 1531 01:17:26,725 --> 01:17:28,765 I've actually heard the comment more than once, 1532 01:17:29,525 --> 01:17:30,685 I would like to go visit dairy. 1533 01:17:31,905 --> 01:17:33,645 Not even kidding. They said, 1534 01:17:33,645 --> 01:17:36,925 that looks like a great community and it really is. 1535 01:17:37,545 --> 01:17:41,885 And that's makes my job a little easier when we just aim, 1536 01:17:41,885 --> 01:17:43,645 point the camera and show the world 1537 01:17:44,385 --> 01:17:45,685 who Dairy New Hampshire is. 1538 01:17:47,355 --> 01:17:49,105 Wrong work. Thank 1539 01:17:49,105 --> 01:17:49,945 You. Thank you 1540 01:17:50,915 --> 01:17:51,915 Madam Chair. 1541 01:17:51,915 --> 01:17:53,705 Seeing no further questions, I'd like 1542 01:17:53,705 --> 01:17:56,265 to move the bottom line for cable TV in the amount 1543 01:17:56,265 --> 01:17:59,825 of $535,900. 1544 01:18:00,285 --> 01:18:04,345 Second. Any further discussion on the motion? 1545 01:18:04,345 --> 01:18:07,945 Councilor Mills? Yes. Council Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood. 1546 01:18:08,085 --> 01:18:10,305 Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. And chair votes? Yes. 1547 01:18:10,305 --> 01:18:12,225 Motion passes. Five zero. Thank you. 1548 01:18:12,475 --> 01:18:15,825 Thank you. Alright, next up we'll move 1549 01:18:15,825 --> 01:18:16,865 to our libraries. 1550 01:18:16,865 --> 01:18:18,105 We'll start with Dairy Public Library. 1551 01:18:18,735 --> 01:18:21,505 Okay. And while we're setting up for that, I just wanted 1552 01:18:21,505 --> 01:18:24,625 to make one comment that just I think is relevant here 1553 01:18:24,645 --> 01:18:25,945 to the cable television. 1554 01:18:28,405 --> 01:18:30,105 The budget that was submitted 1555 01:18:30,775 --> 01:18:34,225 from Owen was about $636,000. 1556 01:18:35,045 --> 01:18:36,345 We went through a process 1557 01:18:36,415 --> 01:18:40,105 because of the declining balance, to reduce that 1558 01:18:40,205 --> 01:18:41,625 by about a hundred thousand dollars. 1559 01:18:41,725 --> 01:18:44,545 We just couldn't make it based on the lack 1560 01:18:44,545 --> 01:18:45,705 of the franchise fees. 1561 01:18:46,245 --> 01:18:47,505 So when we come back, 1562 01:18:47,635 --> 01:18:50,865 we've talked at length about having a workshop 1563 01:18:50,865 --> 01:18:53,225 with the council and one of the philosophies 1564 01:18:53,255 --> 01:18:54,425 that the council 1565 01:18:54,565 --> 01:18:57,545 and the public should be thinking about is this has always 1566 01:18:57,575 --> 01:19:01,385 been a, almost like a self-sustaining enterprise fund. 1567 01:19:01,495 --> 01:19:05,385 It's not. But now that you have, you're chasing lower 1568 01:19:05,405 --> 01:19:06,465 and lower revenues. 1569 01:19:06,845 --> 01:19:09,145 It may be time to start to think of this more 1570 01:19:09,205 --> 01:19:12,625 as the general Government general fund has some 1571 01:19:12,625 --> 01:19:13,705 role in supporting this. 1572 01:19:13,705 --> 01:19:16,305 Because obviously you have all of these programs 1573 01:19:16,305 --> 01:19:18,865 that really didn't exist 15 years ago. 1574 01:19:19,165 --> 01:19:22,225 And the fact that every single governmental meeting is 1575 01:19:22,225 --> 01:19:25,545 covered and covered well and people rely on that service. 1576 01:19:25,685 --> 01:19:28,025 So I just wanted to put that framework out there to say 1577 01:19:28,025 --> 01:19:31,305 that, you know, we took some drastic steps this year to get 1578 01:19:31,305 --> 01:19:34,225 through, but we do need to, you know, we will be back 1579 01:19:34,225 --> 01:19:36,745 with a, a sustainability plan Jack that you talked about. 1580 01:19:36,745 --> 01:19:38,785 That's a five year looking ahead plan. 1581 01:19:40,515 --> 01:19:40,985 Thank you. 1582 01:19:53,785 --> 01:19:56,265 Good evening. Good evening. I'm Kathleen Neek 1583 01:19:56,465 --> 01:19:57,665 from the Dairy Public Library. 1584 01:19:57,925 --> 01:19:58,945 I'm the library director, 1585 01:19:59,685 --> 01:20:01,705 so I'm just gonna give you a little information 1586 01:20:01,705 --> 01:20:03,425 about what we've been up to. 1587 01:20:05,285 --> 01:20:08,605 So all of the, all the numbers in my presentation 1588 01:20:09,305 --> 01:20:12,285 all come from fiscal year 25. 1589 01:20:13,345 --> 01:20:16,605 So we recently submitted our annual report to the state. 1590 01:20:16,825 --> 01:20:19,685 So these are numbers taken from that report. 1591 01:20:20,645 --> 01:20:25,525 So in an average week, we welcome a little over 2,500 1592 01:20:26,315 --> 01:20:27,925 patrons to, to the library. 1593 01:20:30,025 --> 01:20:34,765 We pull 365 physical items from our shelves 1594 01:20:34,905 --> 01:20:38,485 to fulfill patron requests, both for our library 1595 01:20:38,705 --> 01:20:39,765 and also the libraries. 1596 01:20:39,765 --> 01:20:42,045 In the G Milks network, 1597 01:20:43,205 --> 01:20:45,405 we have an average weekly circulation 1598 01:20:45,965 --> 01:20:48,885 of both our physical items and our downloadable items. 1599 01:20:49,725 --> 01:20:51,165 A little over 3,500 items. 1600 01:20:52,305 --> 01:20:56,165 Our public PCs are used about 177 times per week. 1601 01:20:56,625 --> 01:20:59,445 And we answer a little over 200 reference 1602 01:20:59,725 --> 01:21:01,165 questions each week. 1603 01:21:03,425 --> 01:21:06,605 So I know this by now, it's almost become a little bit of a, 1604 01:21:07,085 --> 01:21:09,925 a cliche, but libraries are not just books. 1605 01:21:10,505 --> 01:21:14,245 We do host a wide variety of events at the library. 1606 01:21:15,555 --> 01:21:17,605 Some of the, the pictures here are from 1607 01:21:18,625 --> 01:21:20,765 the Fan con event that we do. 1608 01:21:22,045 --> 01:21:23,965 I think typically it happens in June. 1609 01:21:24,805 --> 01:21:26,685 We have the McGregor Poetry Contest 1610 01:21:27,625 --> 01:21:29,845 and the Annual Author Fest event. 1611 01:21:30,465 --> 01:21:34,165 We also circulate a number of what we call unusual items. 1612 01:21:35,185 --> 01:21:38,325 So we have games, outdoor sporting equipment, 1613 01:21:38,805 --> 01:21:41,645 different electronics that patrons are able 1614 01:21:41,645 --> 01:21:43,205 to borrow free of charge. 1615 01:21:45,965 --> 01:21:49,445 We host a lot of programming for all age groups. 1616 01:21:50,145 --> 01:21:52,405 So starting with the services 1617 01:21:52,425 --> 01:21:54,285 and programs that we provide for adults, 1618 01:21:55,135 --> 01:21:59,845 we've hosted 201 programs in FY 25. 1619 01:22:00,545 --> 01:22:02,885 And these are programs that take place at, 1620 01:22:03,115 --> 01:22:07,125 primarily at the library, but also some offsite 1621 01:22:07,345 --> 01:22:08,805 and also online. 1622 01:22:09,585 --> 01:22:10,925 And in FY 25, 1623 01:22:11,065 --> 01:22:13,885 we had over 2000 people participate in our programs. 1624 01:22:15,045 --> 01:22:18,165 So in addition to just sort of one-off events that we have, 1625 01:22:18,585 --> 01:22:21,285 we also have a wide variety of book groups, 1626 01:22:22,045 --> 01:22:23,485 a film discussion group. 1627 01:22:24,245 --> 01:22:26,965 We recently started a graphic novel discussion group 1628 01:22:28,025 --> 01:22:30,405 and we have a knitting and crochet meetup group. 1629 01:22:30,985 --> 01:22:32,565 So there, there's really, there's something 1630 01:22:32,565 --> 01:22:34,925 for just about everybody at the library. 1631 01:22:36,505 --> 01:22:38,965 And then we have our children's programming, 1632 01:22:38,965 --> 01:22:40,445 which is always very, very popular. 1633 01:22:41,265 --> 01:22:44,005 The photo here is from our, the library field day 1634 01:22:44,005 --> 01:22:46,685 that we had in June of last year. 1635 01:22:47,915 --> 01:22:51,965 Last year we had a total of 444 programs for children 1636 01:22:52,705 --> 01:22:54,405 aid from birth to 11. 1637 01:22:55,265 --> 01:22:56,445 And again, most of 1638 01:22:56,445 --> 01:22:58,965 that programming is primarily at the library, 1639 01:22:59,705 --> 01:23:02,325 but the librarians also do go out into the community 1640 01:23:02,345 --> 01:23:07,125 and do programming like at the schools and Don Ballpark. 1641 01:23:08,305 --> 01:23:13,205 So in FY 25 we had 12,779 children 1642 01:23:14,005 --> 01:23:15,165 attending our programs. 1643 01:23:17,065 --> 01:23:18,605 And just like for the adults, 1644 01:23:18,625 --> 01:23:21,725 we do have some special programs throughout the year that, 1645 01:23:22,125 --> 01:23:23,485 that are always super popular. 1646 01:23:24,485 --> 01:23:27,365 We have our New Year's Eve program where kids get 1647 01:23:27,365 --> 01:23:29,165 to celebrate the new year at noon 1648 01:23:30,065 --> 01:23:32,565 we have our annual one Spooky night program. 1649 01:23:33,305 --> 01:23:36,165 And last year over 250 children 1650 01:23:36,225 --> 01:23:37,925 and adults attended that one. 1651 01:23:39,385 --> 01:23:43,285 Summer reading is a very, very busy time for the library. 1652 01:23:44,235 --> 01:23:48,325 Last year we had 3,200 children attending the 1653 01:23:48,325 --> 01:23:49,685 summer reading programs. 1654 01:23:50,625 --> 01:23:52,525 We had 71 story times 1655 01:23:52,625 --> 01:23:55,605 and events that were held just in that eight week period. 1656 01:23:56,425 --> 01:23:58,485 And 587 children 1657 01:23:59,705 --> 01:24:01,765 did begin at least one reading log. 1658 01:24:02,105 --> 01:24:03,925 And a lot of those did come back and, 1659 01:24:03,985 --> 01:24:05,805 and kids picked up another one that, 1660 01:24:05,805 --> 01:24:08,605 that's a really valuable thing that we do. 1661 01:24:10,585 --> 01:24:14,085 And here I, I provided some information about our network. 1662 01:24:15,065 --> 01:24:16,885 We are part of the Gmails network 1663 01:24:17,545 --> 01:24:18,685 and we're kind of fortunate 1664 01:24:18,885 --> 01:24:20,725 'cause a lot of libraries in New Hampshire are 1665 01:24:20,725 --> 01:24:21,765 not part of a consortium. 1666 01:24:22,625 --> 01:24:27,285 So we, this network is 12 public libraries, 1667 01:24:27,305 --> 01:24:31,605 one academic library, and we all share our materials 1668 01:24:31,605 --> 01:24:32,685 and, and cataloging. 1669 01:24:34,665 --> 01:24:37,125 We we're a, a net lender 1670 01:24:38,005 --> 01:24:39,965 'cause our collection is very popular in the network. 1671 01:24:40,625 --> 01:24:45,285 So we sent 4,670 items just from our 1672 01:24:45,285 --> 01:24:47,085 library to our partners. 1673 01:24:47,725 --> 01:24:50,445 And in exchange, they, they send materials our way as well. 1674 01:24:51,385 --> 01:24:54,925 And membership in G Milks does just provide us 1675 01:24:55,555 --> 01:24:59,365 with access to just a lot more physical 1676 01:24:59,385 --> 01:25:01,485 and downloadable items than we 1677 01:25:01,485 --> 01:25:03,605 otherwise would be able to do ourselves. 1678 01:25:06,105 --> 01:25:09,845 So this year our proposed budget for FY 27 1679 01:25:10,505 --> 01:25:13,045 is $1,000,567 1680 01:25:14,305 --> 01:25:17,805 1,000,567 $202,000. 1681 01:25:19,025 --> 01:25:22,645 In FY 26 it was 1,000,519 1682 01:25:22,735 --> 01:25:24,285 $797. 1683 01:25:24,945 --> 01:25:29,045 So that is an increase of 3.01%. 1684 01:25:30,795 --> 01:25:32,365 Like everybody else, we were affected 1685 01:25:32,365 --> 01:25:34,325 by rising health insurance costs. 1686 01:25:34,705 --> 01:25:39,445 So that increased our personnel line and it hardware 1687 01:25:39,625 --> 01:25:41,045 and software costs. 1688 01:25:41,115 --> 01:25:42,925 Were also a big contributor to that. 1689 01:25:44,185 --> 01:25:46,565 And that includes our, our computers, 1690 01:25:46,565 --> 01:25:50,605 our G milks membership, our website on just all 1691 01:25:50,605 --> 01:25:52,445 of the technology that we run on. 1692 01:25:53,915 --> 01:25:56,565 That was it for me. Thank you. Questions. 1693 01:25:58,205 --> 01:26:01,095 Council whip. Just a, a couple 1694 01:26:01,115 --> 01:26:02,815 of them you mentioned gimmicks 1695 01:26:02,875 --> 01:26:05,245 and being New England College. 1696 01:26:05,515 --> 01:26:10,485 Just outta curiosity, why, why is the university, 1697 01:26:10,745 --> 01:26:12,125 do you know why the university system 1698 01:26:12,125 --> 01:26:14,445 of New Hampshire is not involved 1699 01:26:14,625 --> 01:26:15,625 In a library? 1700 01:26:15,625 --> 01:26:17,885 That, I don't know. I, the consortium's been 1701 01:26:17,885 --> 01:26:19,005 around for quite a while. 1702 01:26:19,005 --> 01:26:20,565 Right. And because 1703 01:26:20,565 --> 01:26:22,125 You've mentioned it before, I'm like, 1704 01:26:22,675 --> 01:26:24,805 Yeah, so I, I'm not sure actually. 1705 01:26:24,845 --> 01:26:27,685 I, I had a meeting with, with the Gmails board today 1706 01:26:27,685 --> 01:26:30,045 and I I was kind of wondering that myself, like 1707 01:26:30,075 --> 01:26:31,285 what are they getting outta this? 1708 01:26:32,305 --> 01:26:34,925 But, but they they are, they are one of our members. 1709 01:26:35,185 --> 01:26:37,325 But it predates my time by Yeah, a lot 1710 01:26:41,695 --> 01:26:42,695 Years ago. 1711 01:26:42,695 --> 01:26:46,885 I remember it was a service called ebsco, which was to help 1712 01:26:46,885 --> 01:26:47,965 with research, particularly 1713 01:26:47,965 --> 01:26:49,405 with scholarly journals and so forth. 1714 01:26:49,785 --> 01:26:51,765 Is that still something that the public can access 1715 01:26:51,765 --> 01:26:52,925 if they have the library card? 1716 01:26:54,265 --> 01:26:56,925 We, It might be a different name now, but Well, 1717 01:26:56,925 --> 01:26:58,405 We do, it's still around. Yeah. 1718 01:26:58,955 --> 01:27:01,805 Yeah. EBSCO is still around and we do have some services. 1719 01:27:02,325 --> 01:27:04,605 They, they're, they, they provide a number 1720 01:27:04,605 --> 01:27:06,405 of different databases for libraries. 1721 01:27:06,865 --> 01:27:08,645 So we do subscribe to some of them. 1722 01:27:09,445 --> 01:27:11,965 Unfortunately, we're across the board, 1723 01:27:11,985 --> 01:27:13,565 all libraries are noticing that 1724 01:27:14,185 --> 01:27:15,685 our online resources don't really 1725 01:27:15,685 --> 01:27:17,005 get a heck of a lot of use. 1726 01:27:17,865 --> 01:27:20,525 So, so we're kind of paring back on some of those. 1727 01:27:21,235 --> 01:27:23,685 Yeah, I was a I've been a heavy user 1728 01:27:23,705 --> 01:27:25,525 of those in past wives. 1729 01:27:25,635 --> 01:27:26,765 Yeah. I I think 1730 01:27:26,765 --> 01:27:28,165 that many people just might not be 1731 01:27:28,275 --> 01:27:29,605 necessarily aware of that. 1732 01:27:31,585 --> 01:27:34,805 The last question I have is more on AI 1733 01:27:35,305 --> 01:27:37,125 and it has to, again, do with research. 1734 01:27:37,505 --> 01:27:39,165 Do you see AI coming into 1735 01:27:41,435 --> 01:27:44,165 libraries in library functions at all, or 1736 01:27:45,255 --> 01:27:49,525 We're, we're not really using it to, to do our work. 1737 01:27:49,655 --> 01:27:52,365 Right. And, and librarians in general are just 1738 01:27:52,445 --> 01:27:53,565 a little leery of ai. 1739 01:27:54,555 --> 01:27:56,725 It's something that we're, we're really trying 1740 01:27:56,725 --> 01:28:00,485 to keep on top of just, you know, just for patron education, 1741 01:28:00,545 --> 01:28:03,725 if nothing else, one area that 1742 01:28:03,725 --> 01:28:06,085 where AI is really affecting us is in 1743 01:28:06,085 --> 01:28:07,165 our collection development. 1744 01:28:08,615 --> 01:28:10,485 There are, there are certainly 1745 01:28:11,105 --> 01:28:13,925 entire books are being generated by ai. 1746 01:28:13,925 --> 01:28:18,725 Right. And that it, it's not always clearly disclosed. 1747 01:28:19,105 --> 01:28:21,085 So some librarians have ordered books 1748 01:28:21,225 --> 01:28:25,205 and found that, that they're providing wildly incorrect 1749 01:28:25,235 --> 01:28:27,925 information or just the same AI generated 1750 01:28:28,095 --> 01:28:29,845 image page after page. 1751 01:28:30,745 --> 01:28:32,045 So we're working to kind 1752 01:28:32,045 --> 01:28:34,445 of address those concerns in our policies 1753 01:28:34,545 --> 01:28:36,845 and just our own awareness Yeah. 1754 01:28:36,845 --> 01:28:37,845 Of things to look out for. 1755 01:28:44,055 --> 01:28:45,265 Okay. Sorry. Any other questions? 1756 01:28:46,075 --> 01:28:47,305 We're just checking your, 1757 01:28:47,455 --> 01:28:49,545 your number on your slide doesn't match the number we had on 1758 01:28:49,545 --> 01:28:51,585 our paper, so we're just making sure we have the right 1759 01:28:51,585 --> 01:28:52,985 number when we vote the bottom line. 1760 01:28:53,185 --> 01:28:54,745 Okay. So hold please. 1761 01:28:59,805 --> 01:29:00,805 All right. Yeah. So the number 1762 01:29:00,805 --> 01:29:03,485 That we're referring to is correct on the sheet 1763 01:29:03,485 --> 01:29:04,565 that the counselors have. 1764 01:29:04,585 --> 01:29:07,445 So page 1 44, the bottom line 1765 01:29:07,625 --> 01:29:08,965 for DPL is 1766 01:29:08,985 --> 01:29:13,285 $1,569,140. 1767 01:29:13,345 --> 01:29:15,205 So that's the correct number that you have on your sheets. 1768 01:29:15,475 --> 01:29:16,805 Okay. So we'll give you a little more money 1769 01:29:18,625 --> 01:29:19,965 If there are no other questions. 1770 01:29:20,015 --> 01:29:22,325 Madam Chair, I would like to move the bottom line 1771 01:29:22,345 --> 01:29:24,805 for the dairy public library in the amount 1772 01:29:24,805 --> 01:29:29,165 of $1,569,140. 1773 01:29:30,385 --> 01:29:32,765 Second. All right. Any other discussion? 1774 01:29:33,695 --> 01:29:37,285 Let's go down this way on the motion. Council flood? Yes. 1775 01:29:37,595 --> 01:29:41,645 Councilor foot? Yes. Council Mills? Yes. Councilor Webb? 1776 01:29:41,705 --> 01:29:44,445 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. Five zero. 1777 01:29:44,575 --> 01:29:45,965 Thank you. Thank you very much. 1778 01:29:45,965 --> 01:29:47,205 Thank you. Have a great night. Good night. 1779 01:29:47,305 --> 01:29:48,925 You switch it up just to make sure we're all 1780 01:29:48,925 --> 01:29:49,925 The work. 1781 01:29:49,925 --> 01:29:50,365 Yeah, I figured we're about halfway through 1782 01:29:50,385 --> 01:29:52,005 so I'd start going the other end now. 1783 01:29:52,585 --> 01:29:53,965 All right. Taylor Library. 1784 01:29:58,945 --> 01:30:01,725 All right. Good evening, counselors. My name is Jen Ker. 1785 01:30:01,745 --> 01:30:03,645 I'm the director over at the Taylor Library 1786 01:30:04,665 --> 01:30:07,845 and I have with me Angel Fontaine, who is our 1787 01:30:09,525 --> 01:30:11,005 secretary of, of the trustee board. 1788 01:30:11,015 --> 01:30:12,885 Sorry I, a couple of roll changes lately, 1789 01:30:13,825 --> 01:30:16,005 but I am here to talk to you about 1790 01:30:17,305 --> 01:30:18,525 the little library on the hill. 1791 01:30:19,345 --> 01:30:21,565 So I'd like to start with talking about some 1792 01:30:21,565 --> 01:30:23,765 of our fiscal year 2026 highlights. 1793 01:30:24,985 --> 01:30:29,045 The biggest one is the increase to our middle grade 1794 01:30:29,045 --> 01:30:31,365 to adult participation in our library programmings. 1795 01:30:31,365 --> 01:30:34,285 This has always been an area that we have struggled with. 1796 01:30:34,635 --> 01:30:39,365 Usually the early education we do very, 1797 01:30:39,365 --> 01:30:43,325 very well, but have kind of lost whole generations 1798 01:30:43,325 --> 01:30:47,845 of people once they've entered third grade or around then. 1799 01:30:48,185 --> 01:30:51,085 But we have seen a huge increase in participation 1800 01:30:51,745 --> 01:30:53,605 and kids coming back to the library 1801 01:30:53,865 --> 01:30:55,645 and sticking around for a bit. 1802 01:30:55,785 --> 01:30:59,005 So part of that is the start 1803 01:30:59,025 --> 01:31:03,285 of our junior librarian program, which has helped with 1804 01:31:03,845 --> 01:31:06,805 youth participation and interest in literacy. 1805 01:31:07,155 --> 01:31:10,685 Typically, if kids see a book that a friend recommended, 1806 01:31:10,685 --> 01:31:12,125 they're more likely to read it. 1807 01:31:13,585 --> 01:31:17,405 We have been rethinking how we do our story times, 1808 01:31:18,715 --> 01:31:21,125 providing a hands-on activity 1809 01:31:21,135 --> 01:31:24,605 after every single one of them to connect 1810 01:31:25,115 --> 01:31:29,085 what we do in story time with learning and tactile play. 1811 01:31:29,505 --> 01:31:33,485 And then a, we saw a 6.89% increase in the amount 1812 01:31:33,485 --> 01:31:36,965 of books checked out compared to the previous year. 1813 01:31:37,555 --> 01:31:41,085 That should say 2024. Sorry. All right. 1814 01:31:42,225 --> 01:31:45,725 So here are those numbers in some pretty graphs. 1815 01:31:46,305 --> 01:31:49,685 As you can see, the book checkouts have increased every 1816 01:31:49,685 --> 01:31:53,485 single year for the last five years by a large portion. 1817 01:31:55,005 --> 01:31:58,285 I don't, I think eventually we'll hit critical mass 1818 01:31:58,345 --> 01:31:59,365 and that will plateau, 1819 01:31:59,385 --> 01:32:01,165 but we haven't figured out what that limit is yet. 1820 01:32:01,185 --> 01:32:03,885 So I'm gonna just keep on keeping on. 1821 01:32:05,385 --> 01:32:10,125 On the bottom left hand side, you see the teen 1822 01:32:10,125 --> 01:32:13,405 and adult growth in both programs offered and participation. 1823 01:32:13,405 --> 01:32:18,045 So on the left side you have the amount 1824 01:32:18,045 --> 01:32:19,085 of programs offered. 1825 01:32:19,145 --> 01:32:22,165 So we're offering more adult programs, more teen programs. 1826 01:32:22,265 --> 01:32:24,845 And then the partici participation of those has 1827 01:32:25,365 --> 01:32:27,685 absolutely skyrocketed, particularly with the teens. 1828 01:32:29,505 --> 01:32:33,005 So teens we qualify as 12 plus for your certification. 1829 01:32:34,185 --> 01:32:37,165 We have offered slightly less programs this last year. 1830 01:32:37,165 --> 01:32:38,485 We got rained out a couple of times 1831 01:32:39,505 --> 01:32:41,205 and then a couple of staffing issues. 1832 01:32:41,225 --> 01:32:44,765 But we are seeing more participants per program offered. 1833 01:32:44,945 --> 01:32:46,045 So more bang for our buck. 1834 01:32:48,315 --> 01:32:49,925 Okay, so here we have, 1835 01:32:50,785 --> 01:32:53,445 we now have a little free library in the back of the library 1836 01:32:53,745 --> 01:32:56,725 for books that we might not be able 1837 01:32:56,725 --> 01:33:00,685 to use in our collection due to their age or quality. 1838 01:33:01,215 --> 01:33:03,965 Might end up in the, the little free library for people 1839 01:33:04,025 --> 01:33:05,245 to take at any point. 1840 01:33:06,225 --> 01:33:08,965 We have our adult tea party here. 1841 01:33:08,985 --> 01:33:12,605 You can see some of those hands-on activities 1842 01:33:12,815 --> 01:33:16,125 where like we talked about bird feeders 1843 01:33:16,305 --> 01:33:18,005 and then made bird feeders. 1844 01:33:19,825 --> 01:33:24,685 We had escape rooms for kids, candy, 1845 01:33:24,755 --> 01:33:28,605 fine art, as well as presentations from 1846 01:33:29,325 --> 01:33:30,525 the Audubon Society 1847 01:33:31,345 --> 01:33:34,165 and our annual bubble party, which is loved by all. 1848 01:33:35,785 --> 01:33:37,605 So what that means in numbers, 1849 01:33:38,265 --> 01:33:41,565 we are requesting a larger budget for our programming 1850 01:33:41,565 --> 01:33:43,325 to accommodate the larger sizes. 1851 01:33:44,865 --> 01:33:49,645 On average, we're getting about 30, 35 0.7 participants per 1852 01:33:49,885 --> 01:33:52,485 program hosted, which is better than national average 1853 01:33:53,625 --> 01:33:54,765 for a library our size. 1854 01:33:54,865 --> 01:33:56,165 That's fantastic. 1855 01:33:57,265 --> 01:34:01,685 We have, are looking to increase our book budget to deal 1856 01:34:01,715 --> 01:34:03,605 with an aging collection. 1857 01:34:03,735 --> 01:34:05,485 We've made some strides on that. 1858 01:34:05,485 --> 01:34:08,285 But the biggest area of concern is our 1859 01:34:09,495 --> 01:34:10,765 nonfiction section. 1860 01:34:12,445 --> 01:34:17,405 A healthy library has an age of 10 to 15 years old 1861 01:34:17,465 --> 01:34:19,925 for the average collection copyright date. 1862 01:34:20,115 --> 01:34:21,565 Ours is currently 20 years old. 1863 01:34:22,025 --> 01:34:23,845 So building that up a little bit. 1864 01:34:23,865 --> 01:34:27,325 And unfortunately nonfiction books are expensive. 1865 01:34:27,915 --> 01:34:29,565 They cost about $40 a piece. 1866 01:34:30,105 --> 01:34:33,645 So we will be, we're slowly 1867 01:34:34,645 --> 01:34:36,405 leasing new computers. 1868 01:34:36,585 --> 01:34:38,405 So this is, we're adding a second one this year 1869 01:34:38,985 --> 01:34:40,005 for the lease program so 1870 01:34:40,005 --> 01:34:41,485 that we can stay current on technology 1871 01:34:41,705 --> 01:34:45,285 and then a slight adjustment across the board for 1872 01:34:45,905 --> 01:34:47,285 the true cost of supplies. 1873 01:34:51,105 --> 01:34:52,325 All right, we have a couple 1874 01:34:52,345 --> 01:34:54,925 of capital projects in mind for this next year. 1875 01:34:55,775 --> 01:34:58,845 There is a crack down the center of the parking lot, 1876 01:34:59,215 --> 01:35:01,885 which is susceptible to frost teves and other issues. 1877 01:35:01,995 --> 01:35:04,125 We'd like to address that before it becomes a 1878 01:35:04,805 --> 01:35:05,885 catastrophic problem. 1879 01:35:07,465 --> 01:35:10,725 The air vents are long overdue for a little bit of love, 1880 01:35:11,415 --> 01:35:15,805 clean out repair, and just an inspection for safety. 1881 01:35:16,625 --> 01:35:21,605 And then we would like to put in 1882 01:35:22,445 --> 01:35:26,165 a request for engineered drafts on a pavilion project 1883 01:35:26,235 --> 01:35:29,125 that would come out about in fiscal year 2028. 1884 01:35:31,545 --> 01:35:34,445 So bottom line, we'd like to request 1885 01:35:35,065 --> 01:35:38,925 $249,009 for use in 2027. 1886 01:35:39,105 --> 01:35:41,405 That's a 3.58% increase. 1887 01:35:42,955 --> 01:35:47,565 That number is slightly off 7 1 5 0 in capital reserve funds 1888 01:35:47,825 --> 01:35:52,805 of which we currently have $390,877 1889 01:35:52,825 --> 01:35:55,325 and 31 cents in that fund. 1890 01:35:57,575 --> 01:35:58,765 Thank you. Any questions? 1891 01:36:02,805 --> 01:36:05,975 Same, same. Same issue as last library first don't match. 1892 01:36:06,115 --> 01:36:08,135 So we just wanna make sure that's that Madam, 1893 01:36:08,135 --> 01:36:10,815 Madam chair we have 2 56, 1 59. That's correct. 1894 01:36:10,815 --> 01:36:11,855 Madam, Madam chair. I've taken 1895 01:36:11,855 --> 01:36:13,095 care of that already. Oh, look 1896 01:36:13,095 --> 01:36:15,255 At you Little 1897 01:36:15,255 --> 01:36:15,895 Side. You were 1898 01:36:15,895 --> 01:36:16,895 Way ahead of me. 1899 01:36:16,895 --> 01:36:18,295 Thank you. Alright, questions before we go to 1900 01:36:18,295 --> 01:36:19,735 That, I would like to move the bottom line 1901 01:36:19,755 --> 01:36:21,295 for the Taylor Library in the amount 1902 01:36:21,295 --> 01:36:25,135 of $256,159 1903 01:36:25,555 --> 01:36:26,555 Second. 1904 01:36:26,555 --> 01:36:30,855 Alright, any discussion on the motion flood? Yes. 1905 01:36:30,855 --> 01:36:34,295 Council put yes. Council mills? Yes. Council Webb? Yes. 1906 01:36:34,395 --> 01:36:36,135 And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes by 1907 01:36:36,135 --> 01:36:37,095 Zero. Thank you. Thank 1908 01:36:37,095 --> 01:36:38,095 You. 1909 01:36:38,095 --> 01:36:38,735 Thank you very much. Have a good night. 1910 01:36:40,485 --> 01:36:44,335 Okay, now we are up to OMO, other municipal obligations. 1911 01:36:53,605 --> 01:36:57,575 Okay, I've returned Welcome back. 1912 01:36:57,665 --> 01:36:59,215 Other municipal obligations. 1913 01:37:00,555 --> 01:37:01,975 I'm not sure if everyone knows what that means, 1914 01:37:02,155 --> 01:37:05,695 but other municipal obligations is also known as OMO. 1915 01:37:06,045 --> 01:37:07,975 It's an activity center within finance. 1916 01:37:08,835 --> 01:37:10,455 We budget general fund revenues 1917 01:37:10,455 --> 01:37:12,175 and expenses that are not allocated 1918 01:37:12,195 --> 01:37:13,815 to any given activity center. 1919 01:37:14,395 --> 01:37:16,535 New Hampshire rooms and meals, revenue sharing, 1920 01:37:16,645 --> 01:37:20,175 general fund interest revenue bond and lease payments 1921 01:37:20,315 --> 01:37:22,015 and property and liability insurance. 1922 01:37:22,015 --> 01:37:25,775 Premium payments are examples of line items budgeted there. 1923 01:37:29,635 --> 01:37:34,055 So in OMO budgeted revenues include New Hampshire meals 1924 01:37:34,055 --> 01:37:36,735 and rooms tax at $3.43 million. 1925 01:37:36,925 --> 01:37:39,535 It's based on what we received in FY 26. 1926 01:37:40,585 --> 01:37:44,495 We're using 444,000 of COVID-19 funds. 1927 01:37:45,155 --> 01:37:48,575 1.2 million from the collective bargaining expendable trust 1928 01:37:48,755 --> 01:37:52,135 in $400,000 from the unallocated 1929 01:37:52,645 --> 01:37:55,135 fund balance towards the CBA settlements. 1930 01:37:56,245 --> 01:37:58,485 Interest revenue we're budgeting 1.1 million 1931 01:37:58,585 --> 01:38:01,725 and that's based on a three year historical trend. 1932 01:38:03,415 --> 01:38:07,005 We're using fund balance the FY 25 surplus 1933 01:38:07,005 --> 01:38:09,285 of 675,000 at transfer 1934 01:38:09,285 --> 01:38:11,925 to the general fund compensated absence, expendable trust. 1935 01:38:12,735 --> 01:38:15,605 We're also using $78,800 1936 01:38:16,265 --> 01:38:19,565 of unallocated fund balance to transfer to capital reserves 1937 01:38:19,565 --> 01:38:20,805 for capital purchases. 1938 01:38:20,825 --> 01:38:24,885 That's a 2.5% inflator allocated 1939 01:38:24,905 --> 01:38:27,525 for FY 27 versus FY 26. 1940 01:38:28,425 --> 01:38:32,885 We also are using $90,500 of unallocated fund balance 1941 01:38:33,025 --> 01:38:35,685 for property and liability insurance increases 1942 01:38:37,105 --> 01:38:40,525 1.385 million is being transferred from the fire facility 1943 01:38:40,525 --> 01:38:42,045 and equipment capital reserve fund 1944 01:38:42,065 --> 01:38:45,525 to cover the FY 27 debt service payment on the fire 1945 01:38:45,525 --> 01:38:47,085 station and culvert bond. 1946 01:38:47,825 --> 01:38:49,685 And we're using capital reserve funds 1947 01:38:50,145 --> 01:38:53,165 to offset general fund capital lease debt payments. 1948 01:38:53,805 --> 01:38:56,725 A lot of this is just stuff that we've been doing year 1949 01:38:56,725 --> 01:38:58,925 after year and the numbers are just changing. 1950 01:39:00,995 --> 01:39:05,605 Some of the appropriations in located now OMO are estimated 1951 01:39:05,605 --> 01:39:09,445 earn time bio payments related to CBAs with roll-ups. 1952 01:39:09,555 --> 01:39:14,485 This amount decreased 16.8% but that is subject to change. 1953 01:39:14,805 --> 01:39:18,045 'cause the trend is people kind of wait till the last minute 1954 01:39:18,145 --> 01:39:19,325 to say, Hey, I'm retiring. 1955 01:39:20,715 --> 01:39:24,685 Retiree health insurance premiums have increased $26,400. 1956 01:39:25,905 --> 01:39:28,285 And then we're also expecting that to keep increasing 1957 01:39:28,565 --> 01:39:30,125 'cause there's gonna still be a wave 1958 01:39:30,125 --> 01:39:31,765 of retirements over the next few years. 1959 01:39:33,055 --> 01:39:35,165 Legal expenses, there is no increase. 1960 01:39:35,885 --> 01:39:37,885 Property and liability insurance as indicated 1961 01:39:37,905 --> 01:39:40,565 before, increased 32.6% 1962 01:39:40,905 --> 01:39:43,885 and that is being funded by unallocated fund. 1963 01:39:43,885 --> 01:39:48,285 Balance funding for the capital reserve funds for additional 1964 01:39:48,795 --> 01:39:52,485 capital purchases is $728,800. 1965 01:39:53,975 --> 01:39:55,005 We've increased the fees 1966 01:39:55,025 --> 01:39:59,165 for the original car transportation program to $123,000. 1967 01:40:00,395 --> 01:40:03,325 Also budgeted here are our general fund bond 1968 01:40:03,325 --> 01:40:08,205 and capital lease payments and we're taking $750,000 1969 01:40:08,265 --> 01:40:11,285 and transferring it into the fire FAC facility 1970 01:40:11,305 --> 01:40:12,805 and equipment capital reserve fund 1971 01:40:12,805 --> 01:40:15,805 for future fire station bond debt payments. 1972 01:40:16,345 --> 01:40:19,005 So the total appropriation is 7 million 1973 01:40:19,185 --> 01:40:21,445 161 9 1 5. 1974 01:40:24,105 --> 01:40:25,245 And that's what I have 1975 01:40:26,325 --> 01:40:27,325 Questions? 1976 01:40:28,035 --> 01:40:30,325 Nope. Council, what? Just one on revenues 1977 01:40:30,505 --> 01:40:32,205 and it's on the room 1978 01:40:32,205 --> 01:40:35,565 and meals tax as we're looking to, 1979 01:40:37,075 --> 01:40:41,085 this is probably a, you know, a swag guess for you. 1980 01:40:41,085 --> 01:40:42,325 Scientific wild ask guests. 1981 01:40:42,385 --> 01:40:44,565 But generally when we see, 1982 01:40:44,575 --> 01:40:46,405 let's say like a business like the Grindhouse 1983 01:40:46,625 --> 01:40:50,925 or Starbucks come in, do we, 1984 01:40:51,625 --> 01:40:54,485 do you see a noticeable increase in the room 1985 01:40:54,485 --> 01:40:57,485 and meals tax revenue so that he could say, 1986 01:40:57,545 --> 01:41:00,605 and so like to Bev says that you bring in this business, 1987 01:41:00,615 --> 01:41:03,285 we'll see on the room tax revenues an increase of roughly 1988 01:41:03,765 --> 01:41:04,765 X. 1989 01:41:04,765 --> 01:41:09,205 So for FY 26 there was about a $60,000 1990 01:41:09,725 --> 01:41:11,845 increase versus FY 25. 1991 01:41:12,505 --> 01:41:14,325 And we, unfortunately, we don't know what 1992 01:41:14,325 --> 01:41:15,925 that number's gonna be until 1993 01:41:15,925 --> 01:41:18,245 around the time we set the tax rate Correct 1994 01:41:18,745 --> 01:41:19,965 and that there's a delay. 1995 01:41:20,025 --> 01:41:21,605 So it's almost like you don't know, 1996 01:41:21,665 --> 01:41:24,445 but based on what you see for the restaurants around here 1997 01:41:24,445 --> 01:41:26,685 and certainly Starbucks, they get a lot for a coffee. 1998 01:41:26,685 --> 01:41:29,925 There's gotta be some, there's gotta be some decent 1999 01:41:30,005 --> 01:41:31,045 money going in there. 2000 01:41:31,045 --> 01:41:33,965 Yeah. So I, I feel it's just gonna keep going up. 2001 01:41:33,965 --> 01:41:36,125 There were a number of years there that 2002 01:41:36,295 --> 01:41:40,645 where the state just wasn't increasing the amounts properly. 2003 01:41:40,645 --> 01:41:41,685 They were keeping all the money. 2004 01:41:41,705 --> 01:41:43,205 But then a few years back, I don't know, 2005 01:41:43,205 --> 01:41:44,645 within the last five years, I think they 2006 01:41:44,755 --> 01:41:46,045 legislation changed that. 2007 01:41:46,145 --> 01:41:49,885 So now we're getting much steadier income from 2008 01:41:49,885 --> 01:41:52,845 This because as we see growth driven by other areas, 2009 01:41:53,065 --> 01:41:56,405 that's a lot of people just thinking, oh, 2010 01:41:56,775 --> 01:41:58,045 extra property tax revenue. 2011 01:41:58,145 --> 01:41:59,445 But it's gonna be revenue 2012 01:41:59,515 --> 01:42:02,445 that we may see in other areas like the room and meals tax. 2013 01:42:02,735 --> 01:42:04,885 Right. I mean this is, we're really dependent on this. 2014 01:42:05,435 --> 01:42:06,435 This is important. 2015 01:42:11,485 --> 01:42:13,355 Madam Chair. Seeing no further questions. 2016 01:42:13,995 --> 01:42:17,195 I move the bottom line for OMO in the amount 2017 01:42:17,335 --> 01:42:17,555 of 2018 01:42:18,005 --> 01:42:22,755 $7,161,915. 2019 01:42:23,415 --> 01:42:28,155 Second. Any further discussion on the motion? 2020 01:42:28,155 --> 01:42:31,275 Council Webb? Yes. Council Foot? Yes. Council Mills? 2021 01:42:31,495 --> 01:42:32,635 Yes. Council Webb? 2022 01:42:33,255 --> 01:42:36,315 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes by zero 2023 01:42:37,135 --> 01:42:38,075 You. Thank you so much. 2024 01:42:38,485 --> 01:42:40,555 Looks like we have administration next. 2025 01:42:45,825 --> 01:42:46,115 Okay. 2026 01:43:01,945 --> 01:43:05,555 Okay. Now we're into a couple of departments that 2027 01:43:06,225 --> 01:43:09,675 fall under the town administrators jurisdiction. 2028 01:43:09,775 --> 01:43:12,515 So starting with our administration, 2029 01:43:13,235 --> 01:43:14,835 staffing levels are unchanged. 2030 01:43:14,835 --> 01:43:16,795 There's four full-time employees 2031 01:43:18,615 --> 01:43:19,955 and total appropriations. 2032 01:43:20,005 --> 01:43:23,275 720,000 5 38. 2033 01:43:23,995 --> 01:43:25,235 A small amount of revenue, 2034 01:43:25,495 --> 01:43:27,675 mainly copy charges, things of that nature. 2035 01:43:29,075 --> 01:43:31,395 Increase in this budget is simply due to cost of living 2036 01:43:31,415 --> 01:43:34,035 and health insurance increases for personnel. 2037 01:43:35,135 --> 01:43:38,315 And that is, that is it pretty much for this Department 2038 01:43:40,185 --> 01:43:41,185 Council web. 2039 01:43:41,575 --> 01:43:43,955 All right. I have an addition that I want to make to 2040 01:43:43,955 --> 01:43:48,395 that line and ask the counselors to please go 2041 01:43:48,395 --> 01:43:50,315 to page 56 of your budget book 2042 01:43:53,225 --> 01:43:57,885 and you'll see second from the bottom a dollar amount 2043 01:43:57,885 --> 01:43:59,805 of $13,302. 2044 01:43:59,835 --> 01:44:01,485 This is in the human services budget. 2045 01:44:03,125 --> 01:44:06,405 I actually asked for that thir that item to be put in 2046 01:44:06,745 --> 01:44:11,685 and it was to be half of a housing voucher essence 2047 01:44:12,105 --> 01:44:14,405 for the Dairy Housing Redevelopment authority. 2048 01:44:15,795 --> 01:44:17,165 They would fund the other half. 2049 01:44:19,445 --> 01:44:21,925 Subsequently, they have looked at their finances 2050 01:44:21,925 --> 01:44:24,485 and felt that they could not necessarily fund the other half 2051 01:44:24,485 --> 01:44:27,125 of that voucher at here was, 2052 01:44:29,315 --> 01:44:31,005 yeah, it would be a small drop in the budget, 2053 01:44:31,265 --> 01:44:33,645 but to one family that housing voucher would mean a lot. 2054 01:44:35,225 --> 01:44:36,885 But they can't fully fund the other half. 2055 01:44:38,585 --> 01:44:41,965 So I want, when we get to it, I would be reducing that 2056 01:44:42,625 --> 01:44:44,645 to a placeholder value of $1. 2057 01:44:45,025 --> 01:44:48,925 But what I'd like to do is on the administrative line, 2058 01:44:50,105 --> 01:44:51,965 if we just look at page 28, 2059 01:44:52,785 --> 01:44:56,965 or actually, sorry, page 30 2060 01:44:57,705 --> 01:45:02,525 we go down into the three 90 section, is to add some money 2061 01:45:03,255 --> 01:45:07,045 under administrative line for marketing, 2062 01:45:07,765 --> 01:45:11,645 specifically marketing of vacant positions. 2063 01:45:12,075 --> 01:45:16,525 This allow human resources to, 2064 01:45:19,085 --> 01:45:20,565 particularly in the fire, the police, 2065 01:45:20,565 --> 01:45:23,125 or any other part of the town, to market the positions at 2066 01:45:23,165 --> 01:45:24,245 a national level. 2067 01:45:24,545 --> 01:45:25,565 So I'd like to add that, 2068 01:45:25,565 --> 01:45:27,405 and I imagine would be in the three 90 line, 2069 01:45:27,425 --> 01:45:30,965 but Mark would be the better person of that, 2070 01:45:31,105 --> 01:45:33,405 of $13,301 2071 01:45:34,515 --> 01:45:37,725 that would bring the administrative bottom line 2072 01:45:38,265 --> 01:45:41,645 to 7 33 8 39. 2073 01:45:44,945 --> 01:45:48,125 And I think that's a, a reasonable trade. 2074 01:45:48,145 --> 01:45:49,845 And then obviously there'll be an offsetting 2075 01:45:50,565 --> 01:45:52,885 reduction in the human services budget when we get to that. 2076 01:45:52,885 --> 01:45:54,845 Yeah. So your new bottom line would be 2077 01:45:54,845 --> 01:45:58,085 $733,839. 2078 01:45:59,865 --> 01:46:02,645 Any questions, comments, concerns with 2079 01:46:02,645 --> 01:46:04,405 that change or any other questions? 2080 01:46:06,525 --> 01:46:08,105 All right. I'd like to make a motion then 2081 01:46:08,105 --> 01:46:11,305 that we adapt the bottom line of the executive department 2082 01:46:11,305 --> 01:46:11,505 of 2083 01:46:11,505 --> 01:46:13,825 seven hundred thirty three, eight hundred and thirty 2084 01:46:13,825 --> 01:46:15,145 $9,000. Don't, 2085 01:46:15,145 --> 01:46:16,145 This is just the administration. 2086 01:46:16,195 --> 01:46:18,025 Don't we have to make a motion to transfer that money? 2087 01:46:19,345 --> 01:46:23,105 I don't think we do. And we can. Yeah. 2088 01:46:23,465 --> 01:46:25,305 'cause we haven't, we're still able to 2089 01:46:25,305 --> 01:46:26,305 Adjust. 2090 01:46:26,305 --> 01:46:28,585 Right. You're in the process of establishing that budget. 2091 01:46:28,685 --> 01:46:32,385 So by virtue of doing this, you are capturing 2092 01:46:32,385 --> 01:46:33,945 what your individual, and then we 2093 01:46:33,975 --> 01:46:35,265 vote formally on the budget. 2094 01:46:35,335 --> 01:46:37,385 Once that's done, if you had any other changes, 2095 01:46:37,535 --> 01:46:39,385 that constitutes a transfer. 2096 01:46:39,445 --> 01:46:41,345 But for now you just, bottom lines are fine. 2097 01:46:41,565 --> 01:46:43,385 We can bottom line and it's just to clarify, 2098 01:46:43,535 --> 01:46:45,945 it's the administration portion of the executive budget. 2099 01:46:46,225 --> 01:46:48,305 'cause there are two divisions in there. Okay. 2100 01:46:48,465 --> 01:46:49,685 I will second that motion then. 2101 01:46:50,145 --> 01:46:52,485 All right. So we have a motion to accept the bottom line 2102 01:46:52,485 --> 01:46:55,205 of 7 33 8 39 for the administration 2103 01:46:56,205 --> 01:46:58,605 budget on the motion. 2104 01:46:58,605 --> 01:47:02,765 Council mills? Yes. Council Webb? Yes. Councillor Flood? 2105 01:47:02,985 --> 01:47:05,085 Yes. Councillor Foot? Yes. And Chair Votes? Yes. 2106 01:47:05,085 --> 01:47:07,365 Motion passes. Five zero. Okay. Alright. 2107 01:47:07,575 --> 01:47:09,445 Thank you. Now we'll go to Human Services. 2108 01:47:09,595 --> 01:47:13,685 Yeah, human Services. I would say one of the areas 2109 01:47:13,755 --> 01:47:16,965 that coming into this position that I really didn't have 2110 01:47:17,765 --> 01:47:21,125 a lot of, you know, firsthand contact 2111 01:47:21,315 --> 01:47:23,245 with was our human services department. 2112 01:47:23,245 --> 01:47:24,525 And over the course of the last year, 2113 01:47:24,525 --> 01:47:27,565 I've had an opportunity to reach out to almost all 2114 01:47:27,565 --> 01:47:28,885 of those groups and, 2115 01:47:28,885 --> 01:47:31,045 and have had a wonderful opportunity to learn 2116 01:47:31,105 --> 01:47:34,005 and to, to understand what they do for the community. 2117 01:47:34,005 --> 01:47:35,725 And, and I think one of the things that 2118 01:47:36,265 --> 01:47:38,845 is really illuminating is there's a lot of people who, 2119 01:47:38,905 --> 01:47:42,205 who care and stretch the dollars that are available through 2120 01:47:43,065 --> 01:47:45,685 the town funds and items that are passed down 2121 01:47:45,685 --> 01:47:47,685 to the various nonprofit organizations. 2122 01:47:47,685 --> 01:47:50,125 We're very fortunate here in town, as I think all 2123 01:47:50,125 --> 01:47:53,845 of you can attest that our nonprofits do a wonderful job at 2124 01:47:54,695 --> 01:47:56,445 maximizing the funds that they get. 2125 01:47:56,585 --> 01:47:59,325 And it, it's a great impact on the community. 2126 01:48:00,305 --> 01:48:01,805 So some of the highlights, 2127 01:48:01,875 --> 01:48:05,005 obviously the three major objectives, we need 2128 01:48:05,005 --> 01:48:07,565 to just make sure that all of our citizens' needs are met 2129 01:48:07,565 --> 01:48:09,205 to the extent that they can when they're in, 2130 01:48:09,205 --> 01:48:10,725 in an emergency circumstance. 2131 01:48:11,585 --> 01:48:14,005 We do leverage our local assistance funds 2132 01:48:14,005 --> 01:48:15,285 with other agency funds 2133 01:48:15,865 --> 01:48:19,285 and then obviously within our contract with CHS, 2134 01:48:19,885 --> 01:48:23,485 continue case management services to assist residents 2135 01:48:23,485 --> 01:48:25,125 to return to self-sufficiency. 2136 01:48:25,715 --> 01:48:30,205 Just for everybody's knowledge, the town migrated from 2137 01:48:31,165 --> 01:48:35,485 a, an in-house welfare model to a contracted model 2138 01:48:36,275 --> 01:48:38,925 back in the fiscal 27 model. 2139 01:48:39,145 --> 01:48:41,525 And so, I'm sorry, 2017. 2140 01:48:41,865 --> 01:48:44,685 So we've been at this for about nine budget cycles now 2141 01:48:45,065 --> 01:48:47,165 and it's been a very good partnership 2142 01:48:47,355 --> 01:48:48,765 with Community Health Services. 2143 01:48:49,735 --> 01:48:52,965 Their portion, or they've requested a 5% increase. 2144 01:48:53,025 --> 01:48:55,845 The town council just voted on that on April 7th. 2145 01:48:56,185 --> 01:49:00,085 So that'll increase from 120,000 2146 01:49:00,145 --> 01:49:04,485 to 126,780 for a fiscal 27. 2147 01:49:05,545 --> 01:49:07,565 We also fund nine agencies. 2148 01:49:08,005 --> 01:49:10,445 They're designed to strengthen the social services net. 2149 01:49:11,205 --> 01:49:14,485 I had the slide in there indicating the 13,302, 2150 01:49:14,485 --> 01:49:15,965 which has been since reduced. 2151 01:49:16,625 --> 01:49:19,245 And then our general assistant budget is 2152 01:49:19,995 --> 01:49:22,285 remaining stable at $80,000. 2153 01:49:22,345 --> 01:49:25,285 That's your catchall for if there's fuel assistance, 2154 01:49:25,285 --> 01:49:26,445 housing assistance, 2155 01:49:26,665 --> 01:49:29,165 and it's been determined to meet the criteria. 2156 01:49:29,625 --> 01:49:33,565 That's the fund that is utilized to make sure that our, 2157 01:49:33,705 --> 01:49:37,485 our folks are protected and, and sheltered as needed. 2158 01:49:38,505 --> 01:49:42,365 And with that, the bottom line would then be adjusted based 2159 01:49:42,465 --> 01:49:45,365 on Councilor Webb's suggestion 2160 01:49:45,385 --> 01:49:49,725 to $308,681. Is that correct? 2161 01:49:50,105 --> 01:49:51,325 That's correct. That's Correct. 2162 01:49:51,675 --> 01:49:54,445 Alright. And so just to look here, these are, 2163 01:49:54,445 --> 01:49:59,365 these are the lists of the agencies that we support, 2164 01:50:00,545 --> 01:50:02,685 you know, all the way down in the various amounts. 2165 01:50:02,785 --> 01:50:05,365 So those have remained unchanged. 2166 01:50:05,385 --> 01:50:08,205 We do take in each year 2167 01:50:09,265 --> 01:50:10,805 the request for each agency. 2168 01:50:10,805 --> 01:50:14,485 They provide backup for the services that we provide. 2169 01:50:15,105 --> 01:50:17,525 And so again, good partners with us and, 2170 01:50:17,525 --> 01:50:19,405 and we'll continue to support those partners 2171 01:50:19,405 --> 01:50:22,045 because it's important for the community. 2172 01:50:22,405 --> 01:50:25,805 So with that, I think that's it for Human services. 2173 01:50:27,705 --> 01:50:28,925 Mad of Chair, Oh, hold on. 2174 01:50:29,345 --> 01:50:31,125 I'm sorry. Question a question. 2175 01:50:31,285 --> 01:50:34,485 'cause I, I don't see it in this budget. 2176 01:50:34,645 --> 01:50:36,205 I don't know if it's elsewhere 2177 01:50:36,225 --> 01:50:37,245 or if it's funded differently. 2178 01:50:37,465 --> 01:50:38,465 And that's cart. 2179 01:50:39,425 --> 01:50:43,965 Yes. So CART was in other municipal obligations. 2180 01:50:44,195 --> 01:50:46,485 Okay. So I think the question you're gonna ask me, I'll, 2181 01:50:46,485 --> 01:50:47,525 I'll anticipate this. 2182 01:50:47,525 --> 01:50:49,885 Yeah. So we had, if you recall, we sat 2183 01:50:50,115 --> 01:50:51,325 amongst this group here 2184 01:50:51,465 --> 01:50:53,925 and looked at some of the, the financial constraints 2185 01:50:53,925 --> 01:50:55,645 because they're losing grand funding 2186 01:50:56,025 --> 01:50:58,325 and also their cost of operation have increased. 2187 01:50:58,425 --> 01:51:02,125 So we were carrying a baseline for enhanced service 2188 01:51:03,305 --> 01:51:07,085 of 60 i, I could be off here by a few dollars, 2189 01:51:07,185 --> 01:51:10,365 but basically within the OMO budget, we increased it 2190 01:51:10,365 --> 01:51:12,125 by about $60,000 right? 2191 01:51:12,185 --> 01:51:14,165 To $123,000. 2192 01:51:14,185 --> 01:51:16,165 So that is it within the OMO budget, 2193 01:51:16,545 --> 01:51:18,085 we will continue that service. 2194 01:51:18,535 --> 01:51:20,165 We're still exploring ways 2195 01:51:20,385 --> 01:51:23,405 by which we can capitalize on other options, 2196 01:51:23,825 --> 01:51:27,965 but to keep the service going as of July 1st, 2026, 2197 01:51:28,625 --> 01:51:31,205 we are increasing the funding that's being asked 2198 01:51:31,225 --> 01:51:32,965 by Manchester Transit Authority. 2199 01:51:36,105 --> 01:51:39,745 A question, Madam Chair, I would move the bottom line 2200 01:51:39,745 --> 01:51:41,745 for human services in the amount 2201 01:51:41,745 --> 01:51:45,665 of $308,681. 2202 01:51:46,695 --> 01:51:48,425 I'll second that. All right. 2203 01:51:48,565 --> 01:51:52,305 Any discussion on the motion? Council mills? Yes. 2204 01:51:52,305 --> 01:51:55,505 Council Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? 2205 01:51:55,605 --> 01:51:59,345 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. Five zero. Okay. 2206 01:52:00,575 --> 01:52:02,505 Alright. Onto the TIF district. 2207 01:52:02,645 --> 01:52:06,585 So as Bev had mentioned, there's a lot of great activity 2208 01:52:06,585 --> 01:52:09,585 that's been going on in both of our TIF districts. 2209 01:52:09,585 --> 01:52:12,105 And so just for the public's information, 2210 01:52:12,925 --> 01:52:16,305 we have two TIF districts that are currently in effect. 2211 01:52:16,785 --> 01:52:20,385 The Gateway district, which is the Ash Street, Folsom Road, 2212 01:52:20,645 --> 01:52:21,705 Madden North High, 2213 01:52:21,705 --> 01:52:24,465 which is basically in the exit four a quarter 2214 01:52:25,045 --> 01:52:26,145 police station area. 2215 01:52:27,455 --> 01:52:31,105 That area, obviously there's been a lot of work done to try 2216 01:52:31,105 --> 01:52:33,105 to, you know, tune up the zoning 2217 01:52:33,125 --> 01:52:36,745 and make sure that we're ready to go when that area is, 2218 01:52:36,965 --> 01:52:39,585 is mature and ready for traffic 2219 01:52:39,645 --> 01:52:41,225 to utilize the four A corridor. 2220 01:52:41,845 --> 01:52:45,605 The dairy commerce corridor started in the Manchester Road 2221 01:52:45,605 --> 01:52:48,325 area with the widening back in 2013. 2222 01:52:48,985 --> 01:52:53,325 It has since been grown to the Crystal Ave 2223 01:52:54,245 --> 01:52:58,765 Broadway downtown area, which has perpetuated our ability to 2224 01:52:59,355 --> 01:53:01,805 take on the garage project at Abbott Court. 2225 01:53:02,505 --> 01:53:06,205 So essentially these are self-balancing funds using the 2226 01:53:06,205 --> 01:53:08,885 portion of the assessment base known as captured, 2227 01:53:09,245 --> 01:53:12,885 assessed value to cover the expenses within those districts. 2228 01:53:13,395 --> 01:53:17,285 Okay. So the idea is that there's a retained value 2229 01:53:17,305 --> 01:53:20,605 of $102 million within the DCC tiff. 2230 01:53:20,665 --> 01:53:22,645 And so those tax proceeds 2231 01:53:22,645 --> 01:53:26,965 of just under $2 million are utilized to cover bond costs, 2232 01:53:27,235 --> 01:53:31,605 maintenance within the corridor and other relevant expenses. 2233 01:53:31,745 --> 01:53:35,525 And there is some marketing in both of the TIF districts 2234 01:53:35,525 --> 01:53:38,925 that we could utilize as needed to bring in growth 2235 01:53:39,065 --> 01:53:42,605 and bring in new opportunities for the gateway district. 2236 01:53:42,625 --> 01:53:45,805 The retain value is, is smaller, it's $41 million, 2237 01:53:45,905 --> 01:53:47,445 but there's tax proceeds of 2238 01:53:48,075 --> 01:53:50,125 just over three quarters of a million dollars. 2239 01:53:50,305 --> 01:53:54,485 So again, that supports items within that TIF district 2240 01:53:54,985 --> 01:53:58,125 and then whatever is not utilized goes into 2241 01:54:00,315 --> 01:54:03,005 fund and that's utilized for future growth as needed. 2242 01:54:04,555 --> 01:54:07,685 This is just a kind of an idea of 2243 01:54:07,685 --> 01:54:09,165 where the corridor is located. 2244 01:54:09,785 --> 01:54:11,205 You can see that in the green. 2245 01:54:11,305 --> 01:54:13,285 So there's the area to the north 2246 01:54:13,505 --> 01:54:16,685 and then obviously coming back into downtown for the, 2247 01:54:17,825 --> 01:54:19,805 for the TIF district, the DCC 2248 01:54:19,865 --> 01:54:22,325 and then the gateway is primarily out 2249 01:54:22,325 --> 01:54:23,525 towards the four A area. 2250 01:54:25,385 --> 01:54:27,125 So let's talk about the dairy 2251 01:54:27,525 --> 01:54:29,485 commerce corridor TIF district. 2252 01:54:29,705 --> 01:54:31,045 So we do have employees 2253 01:54:31,045 --> 01:54:32,885 that are embedded within that district. 2254 01:54:32,905 --> 01:54:34,525 So some of the costs that come out 2255 01:54:34,525 --> 01:54:38,965 of there are 1.5 full-time equivalent of DPW employee costs 2256 01:54:39,645 --> 01:54:43,445 0.13 FTE of economic development coordinator. 2257 01:54:43,865 --> 01:54:45,925 But obviously there's maintenance expenses, 2258 01:54:46,005 --> 01:54:47,885 seasonal activities that are supported 2259 01:54:47,885 --> 01:54:49,365 that bring business to downtown. 2260 01:54:50,045 --> 01:54:53,205 Sidewalk maintenance, trash removal, economic development, 2261 01:54:53,205 --> 01:54:57,125 marketing, street like expenses, street sweeping banners, 2262 01:54:57,155 --> 01:54:58,485 signage, trees. 2263 01:54:58,785 --> 01:55:00,365 And then we do have an allocation 2264 01:55:00,425 --> 01:55:02,405 to repave streets within the district 2265 01:55:02,945 --> 01:55:04,405 as they are, as they're needed. 2266 01:55:07,265 --> 01:55:10,205 One question that I think gets asked a lot is about the debt 2267 01:55:10,485 --> 01:55:11,685 structure within the TIF district. 2268 01:55:11,745 --> 01:55:14,485 So we have two bonds 2269 01:55:14,635 --> 01:55:18,205 that are currently being paid with principal and interest. 2270 01:55:18,305 --> 01:55:22,445 So the Route 28 North, which is Manchester Road up 2271 01:55:22,445 --> 01:55:24,925 by the Walmart, we're in year five of 10. 2272 01:55:25,365 --> 01:55:27,645 You have principal payment of 210 K 2273 01:55:27,865 --> 01:55:31,845 and the interest payments are at $19,058. 2274 01:55:32,745 --> 01:55:36,285 The Abbott Court bond we sold roughly nine months ago. 2275 01:55:36,465 --> 01:55:38,685 And so first principle 2276 01:55:38,685 --> 01:55:42,085 and interest payment will be due in 2020, fiscal 27. 2277 01:55:42,625 --> 01:55:47,485 And so again, $976,000 in the principal 2278 01:55:47,485 --> 01:55:50,125 and the interest amount is 961,000. 2279 01:55:50,145 --> 01:55:53,525 So the idea would be that the captured tax values, 2280 01:55:53,665 --> 01:55:56,645 the proceeds are utilized to cover both the expenses 2281 01:55:56,705 --> 01:55:59,925 and the principal and interest in within the district. 2282 01:56:02,095 --> 01:56:04,765 Again, gateway TIFF district, this just gives you an idea 2283 01:56:04,785 --> 01:56:07,205 of, of the properties within that district. 2284 01:56:09,855 --> 01:56:13,605 Again, district operations, we have a marketing ability. 2285 01:56:13,745 --> 01:56:15,605 We also have our economic development 2286 01:56:15,605 --> 01:56:16,845 office partially funded by that. 2287 01:56:17,405 --> 01:56:20,165 There's one full-time DPW employee 2288 01:56:20,385 --> 01:56:23,805 and equipment that's there to maintain the four a quarter, 2289 01:56:24,395 --> 01:56:25,685 obviously current 2290 01:56:25,825 --> 01:56:30,205 and future obviously it's balanced for redevelopment 2291 01:56:30,385 --> 01:56:33,045 and infrastructure trust for implementation 2292 01:56:33,045 --> 01:56:35,205 of master plan activities, investment 2293 01:56:35,345 --> 01:56:36,685 for alternate transportation, 2294 01:56:36,685 --> 01:56:38,805 including the rail trail heading north. 2295 01:56:39,465 --> 01:56:42,845 And then obviously the main goal we're looking to do is 2296 01:56:43,465 --> 01:56:46,125 access and redevelopment of the north side of Folsom Road 2297 01:56:46,135 --> 01:56:48,765 after the F four a quarter is completed. 2298 01:56:49,745 --> 01:56:51,165 So those are the major goals. 2299 01:56:52,625 --> 01:56:54,525 Bottom line within the TIF district, 2300 01:56:54,625 --> 01:56:58,525 you have revenues matching up with expenditures. 2301 01:56:58,975 --> 01:57:02,845 $3,310,276. 2302 01:57:04,845 --> 01:57:07,365 Questions. Counsel 2303 01:57:11,415 --> 01:57:13,845 Asked me if several times 2304 01:57:14,885 --> 01:57:17,605 any update on the rail trail construction 2305 01:57:18,145 --> 01:57:21,445 and somebody asked me, I know it's not us, 2306 01:57:22,065 --> 01:57:24,365 but are you aware of any plans to 2307 01:57:25,265 --> 01:57:27,405 how it's the rail trail's going across 28 2308 01:57:27,405 --> 01:57:28,765 and interconnect with one and dairy? 2309 01:57:29,025 --> 01:57:30,525 How? Although I know that crossing is, 2310 01:57:30,525 --> 01:57:31,805 would be in one and dairy. 2311 01:57:31,975 --> 01:57:34,725 Right. Okay, so we'll, we'll start from, 2312 01:57:35,495 --> 01:57:37,885 let's just say we start from Hood Park 2313 01:57:37,885 --> 01:57:38,885 and work our way north, right? 2314 01:57:38,885 --> 01:57:41,405 So obviously the first group would be, 2315 01:57:41,405 --> 01:57:44,845 or the first phase is the completion of the four A tunnel. 2316 01:57:44,995 --> 01:57:47,845 Okay? Correct. So we are still waiting from the state 2317 01:57:47,875 --> 01:57:49,485 despite numerous inquiries with them, 2318 01:57:49,995 --> 01:57:53,205 what the technical part of that's going to look like. 2319 01:57:53,205 --> 01:57:56,685 Meaning how high is it, where does it connect 2320 01:57:56,705 --> 01:57:58,205 to our existing infrastructure? 2321 01:57:58,905 --> 01:58:02,325 But we've been assured that that is going to be a component 2322 01:58:02,505 --> 01:58:04,485 of the finished exit four a project. 2323 01:58:04,765 --> 01:58:06,405 I think the construction crew is the one 2324 01:58:06,405 --> 01:58:08,885 that's really waiting for how tall, you know, 2325 01:58:08,885 --> 01:58:10,885 how much fill do I bring in or how much do I not? 2326 01:58:11,105 --> 01:58:14,085 But that issue, they've at least assured us 2327 01:58:14,085 --> 01:58:16,725 that there is going to be a tunnel pursuant to that court 2328 01:58:17,365 --> 01:58:20,845 agreement that they made with the petitioners to have that 2329 01:58:20,865 --> 01:58:24,285 as a straight through so that we'd expect to be done with, 2330 01:58:24,345 --> 01:58:26,365 you know, by 2028 is, 2331 01:58:26,365 --> 01:58:28,325 and that's in their process of putting 2332 01:58:28,325 --> 01:58:30,805 that all together going north of there. 2333 01:58:31,105 --> 01:58:33,685 The town has been awarded 2334 01:58:34,845 --> 01:58:36,605 a New Hampshire DOT grant. 2335 01:58:37,245 --> 01:58:39,565 I think it's just over $900,000. 2336 01:58:39,745 --> 01:58:42,805 So design work we're soliciting currently 2337 01:58:42,865 --> 01:58:43,925 for the design work, 2338 01:58:44,655 --> 01:58:47,325 Tom's DPW group is soliciting engineering 2339 01:58:47,585 --> 01:58:49,445 and that will set up a design 2340 01:58:49,465 --> 01:58:51,165 to take us from basically north 2341 01:58:51,165 --> 01:58:53,725 of the exit four a culvert going under the, 2342 01:58:53,745 --> 01:58:56,725 the new road all the way to the London dairy town line. 2343 01:58:56,865 --> 01:58:58,485 So the design will be done 2344 01:58:58,585 --> 01:59:02,365 and then shortly thereafter we'll be looking to bid 2345 01:59:02,585 --> 01:59:07,365 for construction using an 80 20 split on the cost 2346 01:59:07,375 --> 01:59:09,685 share that the state is going to kick in. 2347 01:59:09,985 --> 01:59:12,365 I'd anticipate that probably will not happen 2348 01:59:12,495 --> 01:59:13,925 until the construction won't happen 2349 01:59:13,925 --> 01:59:16,845 until we get into the completion of the four A project. 2350 01:59:16,845 --> 01:59:20,125 Right? 28 29, somewhere in that timeframe. 2351 01:59:20,665 --> 01:59:25,405 And then in London I had heard rumors about them doing some 2352 01:59:25,635 --> 01:59:29,045 work to complete that last link between Route 28 2353 01:59:29,045 --> 01:59:31,685 and London Dairy and the Dairy London dairy town line. 2354 01:59:32,025 --> 01:59:34,565 But I don't, I don't have any further information as to 2355 01:59:34,565 --> 01:59:36,445 where their project timeline is on that. 2356 01:59:36,625 --> 01:59:39,165 So I I I don't know the discussion. 2357 01:59:39,485 --> 01:59:41,365 I have not heard that there was any alternate 2358 01:59:41,465 --> 01:59:42,645 design of that. 2359 01:59:43,105 --> 01:59:45,525 In other words, it would remain an at grade crossing 2360 01:59:46,105 --> 01:59:47,765 at Route 28 in London dairy. 2361 01:59:49,905 --> 01:59:51,365 The other question, it's more of a, 2362 01:59:51,635 --> 01:59:54,205 it's really nice when you come through the Dairy Commerce 2363 01:59:54,725 --> 01:59:55,885 district, particularly in the winter time 2364 01:59:55,885 --> 01:59:57,365 and stuff like that with all the signage 2365 01:59:57,825 --> 01:59:59,045 and banners that you put up, 2366 01:59:59,045 --> 02:00:03,085 and then I know it's too early for 2367 02:00:03,625 --> 02:00:04,885 the Gateway Tiff district, 2368 02:00:04,905 --> 02:00:07,205 but is there a plan to do something similar as people enter 2369 02:00:08,195 --> 02:00:10,765 into town once that whole project is completed? 2370 02:00:10,785 --> 02:00:12,005 As far as signs and banners? 2371 02:00:12,445 --> 02:00:14,685 I, I think we would be open to something like that. 2372 02:00:14,925 --> 02:00:17,125 I think, you know, this would be something I think 2373 02:00:17,125 --> 02:00:19,885 that would fall within the economic development office and, 2374 02:00:19,885 --> 02:00:22,165 and looking at some of the, the opportunities right. 2375 02:00:22,165 --> 02:00:24,165 It's gonna be a vastly different Yeah. 2376 02:00:24,485 --> 02:00:26,205 Visual when you come into town, I mean, 2377 02:00:26,205 --> 02:00:29,125 you've got residences on your south side 2378 02:00:29,125 --> 02:00:31,085 and now you've got kind of a wide open area, 2379 02:00:31,105 --> 02:00:34,485 but once, once used to be a 24 foot wide road is going 2380 02:00:34,485 --> 02:00:36,925 to now be multiple lanes on both sides. 2381 02:00:36,945 --> 02:00:38,605 So the pole lines will be set back, 2382 02:00:38,865 --> 02:00:41,965 but I do think there'll be some opportunities for, you know, 2383 02:00:41,965 --> 02:00:45,165 having some banners or some signage that commemorates. 2384 02:00:45,165 --> 02:00:46,165 Welcome to Dairy 2385 02:00:49,615 --> 02:00:51,685 Madam Chair signal further questions. 2386 02:00:52,405 --> 02:00:55,485 I move the bottom line for the TIF districts in the amount 2387 02:00:55,505 --> 02:01:00,245 of $3,310,276 2388 02:01:01,625 --> 02:01:02,625 Second. 2389 02:01:02,785 --> 02:01:05,245 All right, we have motion and a second. 2390 02:01:05,265 --> 02:01:08,965 Any discussion on the motion? Councilor Mills? Yes. 2391 02:01:09,115 --> 02:01:12,405 Councilor Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood. Yes. Councilor Foot? 2392 02:01:13,065 --> 02:01:15,805 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes by chair. 2393 02:01:16,085 --> 02:01:17,085 I just thought of it, it, 2394 02:01:17,195 --> 02:01:18,285 it's not gonna have any effect on this 2395 02:01:18,305 --> 02:01:20,125 but flags downtown this year. 2396 02:01:20,125 --> 02:01:21,405 It's not a problem. We still have those. 2397 02:01:21,595 --> 02:01:24,245 Yeah, we, we would be basically, I think between now 2398 02:01:24,345 --> 02:01:26,645 and Memorial Day we'll get those put back up. 2399 02:01:26,705 --> 02:01:30,605 As you can tell, they, they do take a lot of abuse with wind 2400 02:01:30,745 --> 02:01:32,405 and thunderstorms and things like that. 2401 02:01:32,585 --> 02:01:34,245 So usually they come down in the winter, 2402 02:01:34,305 --> 02:01:36,805 but as soon as we can before the memorial day we, you know, 2403 02:01:36,805 --> 02:01:38,245 clean everything up and downtown 2404 02:01:38,385 --> 02:01:40,725 and there'll be some flags back up. Right. 2405 02:01:40,725 --> 02:01:43,045 I i I know it's not gonna be a big thing, but between now 2406 02:01:43,045 --> 02:01:44,765 and the time we vote on the final budget, 2407 02:01:44,785 --> 02:01:46,765 if we need anything extra for that, then yeah, 2408 02:01:46,765 --> 02:01:48,885 I, I I think we'll be fine as far as that's concerned. 2409 02:01:48,885 --> 02:01:50,005 I mean again, the cost to 2410 02:01:50,185 --> 02:01:52,645 to buy a new flag is not tremendous. 2411 02:01:53,095 --> 02:01:57,245 Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Planning department. 2412 02:02:09,235 --> 02:02:10,725 Good evening counselors. Good evening. 2413 02:02:11,355 --> 02:02:14,245 Okay. So the planning department is comprised 2414 02:02:14,245 --> 02:02:15,605 of two employees myself 2415 02:02:15,665 --> 02:02:17,485 and the fabulous Caroline 2416 02:02:17,665 --> 02:02:19,805 who helps keep things running in the department. 2417 02:02:20,625 --> 02:02:23,125 We also have one temporary employee. 2418 02:02:24,025 --> 02:02:25,805 We are in the process 2419 02:02:25,865 --> 02:02:27,765 of hiring another intern for this summer. 2420 02:02:28,605 --> 02:02:30,085 It was very successful last year. 2421 02:02:30,085 --> 02:02:32,245 We had a great candidate who really helped to move some 2422 02:02:33,225 --> 02:02:35,765 zoning projects and things along for us. 2423 02:02:35,865 --> 02:02:39,325 So we hope to have another good candidate this year. 2424 02:02:40,265 --> 02:02:44,765 Our projected division cost is $388,912. 2425 02:02:44,995 --> 02:02:46,485 Most of that is personnel. 2426 02:02:47,945 --> 02:02:50,085 Our revenue projections for the next year. 2427 02:02:50,695 --> 02:02:55,005 Right now our year to date application revenues, well as 2428 02:02:55,005 --> 02:02:59,445 of the end of March we were 137% over 2429 02:02:59,475 --> 02:03:00,805 what we had anticipated. 2430 02:03:01,665 --> 02:03:04,485 We don't expect that trend to keep continuing. 2431 02:03:04,805 --> 02:03:07,805 We're starting to see a little bit of a decline in 2432 02:03:09,005 --> 02:03:10,085 TRC applications, 2433 02:03:10,085 --> 02:03:12,405 which usually means things are gonna drop off a little bit. 2434 02:03:13,745 --> 02:03:17,005 So we do expect our revenues will drop off just a little bit 2435 02:03:17,435 --> 02:03:19,565 heading into fiscal 27. 2436 02:03:19,985 --> 02:03:22,645 But there shouldn't be a detrimental impact 2437 02:03:22,645 --> 02:03:26,365 because we do have, dairy does continue 2438 02:03:26,365 --> 02:03:27,485 to be a favorable market. 2439 02:03:28,245 --> 02:03:31,965 We are in deep discussion with developers for new commercial 2440 02:03:31,985 --> 02:03:33,285 and industrial projects 2441 02:03:33,425 --> 02:03:35,805 and projects that will add housing to the town. 2442 02:03:37,005 --> 02:03:39,165 Although we're not a revenue producing department, 2443 02:03:39,445 --> 02:03:43,525 you do get to see the results of our work in the permit fees 2444 02:03:43,525 --> 02:03:45,165 and things that come in through other departments. 2445 02:03:45,625 --> 02:03:47,045 So I'm happy to answer any questions. 2446 02:03:48,765 --> 02:03:52,725 Questions You already took care of my question Madam 2447 02:03:52,725 --> 02:03:54,165 Chair. I've got a new figure 2448 02:03:54,825 --> 02:03:56,765 You do For the planning department. 2449 02:03:56,885 --> 02:03:59,005 I move the bottom line for planning in the amount 2450 02:03:59,005 --> 02:04:03,445 of $343,662. 2451 02:04:03,705 --> 02:04:05,205 Oh 'cause I can't math. Thank you. 2452 02:04:06,925 --> 02:04:08,845 I do a lot of things well but not math. 2453 02:04:09,755 --> 02:04:12,805 Alright, any further discussion? All right. 2454 02:04:12,805 --> 02:04:16,125 On the motion Council mills? Yes. Councilor Webb? Yes. 2455 02:04:16,195 --> 02:04:19,205 Councilor Flood. Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. And chair Votes? 2456 02:04:19,225 --> 02:04:20,685 Yes. Motion passes. Five zero. 2457 02:04:20,855 --> 02:04:24,645 Thank you counselors. All that 2458 02:04:24,645 --> 02:04:26,045 Waited two hours just for that. 2459 02:04:26,925 --> 02:04:31,485 I know right now we have 2460 02:04:31,555 --> 02:04:32,685 capital improvement program. 2461 02:04:32,845 --> 02:04:33,845 I know. Yeah. Poor Liz. 2462 02:04:33,865 --> 02:04:37,485 We had had her stay for 92nd for us to 2463 02:04:37,485 --> 02:04:38,485 Be like That's great. 2464 02:04:38,485 --> 02:04:39,485 Yeah. 2465 02:04:39,835 --> 02:04:43,925 Alright, so let's move on to, so 2466 02:04:44,875 --> 02:04:48,725 there's two items remaining as far as bottom line. 2467 02:04:48,825 --> 02:04:51,965 So you have the expendable maintenance trust, which is 2468 02:04:52,485 --> 02:04:54,365 $205,000. 2469 02:04:55,145 --> 02:04:57,645 And those are just miscellaneous projects 2470 02:04:57,645 --> 02:04:59,965 that are spread out throughout. 2471 02:05:00,285 --> 02:05:02,605 They're primarily existing buildings 2472 02:05:02,605 --> 02:05:06,005 where we've identified a small capital need. 2473 02:05:06,005 --> 02:05:09,925 Like for example, many of them this year are upgrades 2474 02:05:09,945 --> 02:05:13,965 to station two, three, and four, not headquarters 2475 02:05:14,195 --> 02:05:16,565 because obviously we spent a lot of time, effort, 2476 02:05:16,585 --> 02:05:18,685 and energy to get the headquarters built. 2477 02:05:18,705 --> 02:05:21,325 But some of the other stations still age on. 2478 02:05:21,465 --> 02:05:23,485 So bathroom projects, 2479 02:05:24,585 --> 02:05:26,685 garage doors seem to be another theme. 2480 02:05:27,105 --> 02:05:28,965 So those projects are covered under 2481 02:05:28,965 --> 02:05:30,165 the expendable maintenance trust. 2482 02:05:30,165 --> 02:05:33,205 We've tried to target somewhere between 200 2483 02:05:33,225 --> 02:05:35,605 and $265,000 per year, 2484 02:05:35,625 --> 02:05:37,925 but these are needs that have been identified 2485 02:05:38,025 --> 02:05:39,205 by the department heads. 2486 02:05:39,945 --> 02:05:42,365 And then finally there's a provision 2487 02:05:42,365 --> 02:05:46,085 for some sidewalk paving at $50,000 out of the EMT. 2488 02:05:46,105 --> 02:05:48,965 So this is just a revolving fund put in place 2489 02:05:49,565 --> 02:05:51,685 probably about 10 years ago just to make sure 2490 02:05:51,685 --> 02:05:53,645 that we have a pot of money to address. 2491 02:05:53,655 --> 02:05:55,885 We've done air conditioning units before. 2492 02:05:56,175 --> 02:05:59,605 We've done some repairs at police station. 2493 02:05:59,655 --> 02:06:01,685 We've done some repairs at Adams Memorial. 2494 02:06:01,785 --> 02:06:05,445 So the bottom line on that is $205,000 2495 02:06:05,445 --> 02:06:07,165 unless you have any questions regarding that. 2496 02:06:07,165 --> 02:06:08,605 And then I can go into the Capitol 2497 02:06:10,805 --> 02:06:13,085 Questions on the expendable trust. 2498 02:06:13,555 --> 02:06:16,205 Okay. Seeing those no questions Madam Chair, 2499 02:06:16,325 --> 02:06:17,725 I move the bottom line 2500 02:06:17,785 --> 02:06:20,605 for the expendable Maintenance trust in the amount 2501 02:06:20,605 --> 02:06:23,045 of $205,000. Second. 2502 02:06:23,795 --> 02:06:27,445 Alright, any discussion on the motion? Councillor Mills? 2503 02:06:27,585 --> 02:06:30,805 Yes. Councilor Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. 2504 02:06:30,805 --> 02:06:33,285 Councilor Foot? Yes. And chair votes? Yes. 2505 02:06:33,285 --> 02:06:34,485 The motion passes five zero. 2506 02:06:35,115 --> 02:06:37,805 Okay. And lastly we have capital. 2507 02:06:38,065 --> 02:06:41,725 So just gonna run through these slides just 2508 02:06:41,725 --> 02:06:43,725 to give a snapshot of what's being supported. 2509 02:06:44,105 --> 02:06:48,125 The fiscal six year CIP is a product that, 2510 02:06:48,785 --> 02:06:51,405 as I had said in our meeting on April 7th, 2511 02:06:52,145 --> 02:06:56,605 is a year round process we go through, we look at a number 2512 02:06:56,625 --> 02:07:00,525 of different items to replace right time them, make sure 2513 02:07:00,525 --> 02:07:02,965 that we were able to meet the needs of each one 2514 02:07:02,965 --> 02:07:04,845 of the towns departments. 2515 02:07:05,425 --> 02:07:08,085 And obviously we also incorporate items such 2516 02:07:08,085 --> 02:07:10,685 as ongoing maintenance for roads, bonds 2517 02:07:10,945 --> 02:07:13,125 for grant funded utility expansions 2518 02:07:13,125 --> 02:07:14,165 and things of that nature. 2519 02:07:14,305 --> 02:07:18,565 So you'll see all those projects within the six year CIP 2520 02:07:18,565 --> 02:07:21,245 projection, but then year by year you have 2521 02:07:22,925 --> 02:07:25,885 a payment that has to be taken out of the general fund 2522 02:07:26,395 --> 02:07:28,885 once you go ahead and you split all those projects. 2523 02:07:28,885 --> 02:07:32,205 Some are paid in year one because they're smaller projects. 2524 02:07:32,475 --> 02:07:34,765 Some are put through spread financing, five 2525 02:07:34,765 --> 02:07:36,650 or seven years, particularly the vehicles. 2526 02:07:36,745 --> 02:07:38,845 And then others are bonded over a 20 year 2527 02:07:39,185 --> 02:07:41,605 or 30 year period depending on the size of the project. 2528 02:07:42,915 --> 02:07:45,805 Talking about the capital improvement plan process, again, 2529 02:07:46,255 --> 02:07:47,685 we're gonna work through this today. 2530 02:07:47,685 --> 02:07:51,085 We'll have the public hearing on the 23rd 2531 02:07:51,905 --> 02:07:55,885 and then on May 5th the council will vote on the CIP 2532 02:07:55,905 --> 02:07:57,565 and the fiscal 27 budget. 2533 02:07:59,145 --> 02:08:02,525 In CIP plan, it's about $62.5 million. 2534 02:08:02,595 --> 02:08:05,845 General funds, 30 million water funds, 12.9 2535 02:08:05,865 --> 02:08:08,485 and the wastewater fund is 19.9 million. 2536 02:08:10,315 --> 02:08:15,045 Talking about some of this, the FY 27 CIP requests, 2537 02:08:16,025 --> 02:08:18,925 it is 26.6 million for all projects. 2538 02:08:18,925 --> 02:08:23,285 The general fund is 7.4 million, water fund 11.6 million 2539 02:08:23,625 --> 02:08:26,605 and the wastewater fund is at 7.6 million. 2540 02:08:27,345 --> 02:08:30,765 Now with that said, those numbers look pretty daunting, but 2541 02:08:31,155 --> 02:08:33,565 because of the way we bring in revenues 2542 02:08:33,625 --> 02:08:35,925 and the spread financing that I was talking about, 2543 02:08:36,145 --> 02:08:39,325 we are able to spread these payments out 2544 02:08:39,625 --> 02:08:42,965 and Mark does a really good job at keeping a scorecard as to 2545 02:08:42,965 --> 02:08:45,325 where we stand because there's some trailing year 2546 02:08:45,325 --> 02:08:46,325 obligations as well. 2547 02:08:46,325 --> 02:08:49,565 If we bought a a fire truck seven years ago, 2548 02:08:49,585 --> 02:08:52,525 we may still have payments on that that have to be captured 2549 02:08:53,065 --> 02:08:54,085 in this year's budget. 2550 02:08:54,265 --> 02:08:56,725 So that is a very intricate process. 2551 02:08:57,305 --> 02:09:00,365 But we have a blend of, of spread financing 2552 02:09:00,425 --> 02:09:03,765 and grants that we take in from state and federal sources. 2553 02:09:04,795 --> 02:09:06,685 This is probably too small to to share, 2554 02:09:06,745 --> 02:09:09,965 but this is in our budget books just showing all the 2555 02:09:09,965 --> 02:09:14,445 departments for, for the request this year, each one 2556 02:09:14,445 --> 02:09:16,445 of the departments DPW, fire 2557 02:09:16,985 --> 02:09:20,405 and Police each have a capital reserve balance 2558 02:09:20,745 --> 02:09:22,565 and that is a mechanism that they are able 2559 02:09:22,565 --> 02:09:26,525 to fund their particular projects over the six year period. 2560 02:09:26,525 --> 02:09:28,525 In the exercise that we do is we look at 2561 02:09:28,755 --> 02:09:31,005 what we project based on fund balance. 2562 02:09:31,005 --> 02:09:33,405 There's a formula that passes down funds 2563 02:09:33,425 --> 02:09:35,085 to each capital reserve fund 2564 02:09:35,425 --> 02:09:38,365 and then we look at what the projected payments are based on 2565 02:09:38,365 --> 02:09:39,565 what the requests are 2566 02:09:39,905 --> 02:09:43,725 and we try to project out where that fund would be 2567 02:09:43,785 --> 02:09:47,885 and we want to obviously keep that in a good situation so 2568 02:09:47,885 --> 02:09:49,565 that we are not dipping below zero 2569 02:09:49,625 --> 02:09:52,965 and in, in most cases we're able to do that. 2570 02:09:53,755 --> 02:09:56,085 Alright, just to run through the projects real quick. 2571 02:09:56,145 --> 02:09:59,885 For fiscal 27, the police departments identified 2572 02:10:00,705 --> 02:10:03,405 six hybrid police intercept interceptors, 2573 02:10:03,405 --> 02:10:06,245 $341,312. 2574 02:10:06,245 --> 02:10:09,005 There's a couple of photos of the old and, 2575 02:10:09,105 --> 02:10:11,365 and a picture of what it's gonna look like new. 2576 02:10:11,365 --> 02:10:13,605 They've gone to kind of the SUV version. 2577 02:10:13,745 --> 02:10:17,885 Now as a, as a backup, there's a Motorola contract 2578 02:10:17,885 --> 02:10:21,245 for communications at 90 3003 58. 2579 02:10:21,715 --> 02:10:24,485 There's also gonna be the Canine Cruiser replacement 2580 02:10:24,765 --> 02:10:26,445 with a hybrid police interceptor. 2581 02:10:26,445 --> 02:10:31,125 And that's 59,957 in DPW. 2582 02:10:31,355 --> 02:10:34,325 I'll run through these really quick sidewalk machine, 2583 02:10:34,345 --> 02:10:39,285 $200,000 plow truck, $165,000, 2584 02:10:40,995 --> 02:10:42,645 chipper, 75,000, 2585 02:10:43,925 --> 02:10:46,005 a smaller pickup truck with plow. 2586 02:10:46,005 --> 02:10:47,445 There's three of them throughout various 2587 02:10:48,285 --> 02:10:50,885 divisions at 65,000 each. 2588 02:10:52,105 --> 02:10:55,955 Code enforcement we had talked about in the DPW budget is 2589 02:10:55,955 --> 02:10:58,835 seeking to add a position of an inspector. 2590 02:10:58,895 --> 02:11:00,755 So we obviously have to support that with a vehicle 2591 02:11:00,815 --> 02:11:05,115 that's a $60,000 endeavor, ballpark ball field groomer, 2592 02:11:05,115 --> 02:11:09,955 45,000 storage trailer for the public works, 2593 02:11:10,125 --> 02:11:13,955 trash trailers, $300,000 roadway maintenance. 2594 02:11:13,955 --> 02:11:16,315 We've reduced that as a result of some 2595 02:11:16,315 --> 02:11:17,315 of the budget realities. 2596 02:11:17,315 --> 02:11:20,355 But obviously we talked about our ability 2597 02:11:20,375 --> 02:11:22,755 to stay very high on the PCI rating 2598 02:11:22,755 --> 02:11:24,995 because of all the other projects that are going on 2599 02:11:25,345 --> 02:11:28,595 through DOT and other state agencies. 2600 02:11:29,695 --> 02:11:32,715 On the fire side, two major projects. 2601 02:11:33,425 --> 02:11:38,195 Fire engine two replacement, that's a $1.3 million endeavor. 2602 02:11:38,305 --> 02:11:40,275 Obviously those payments are gonna be spread 2603 02:11:40,275 --> 02:11:41,875 over multiple years. 2604 02:11:42,695 --> 02:11:44,995 And then we also have an ambulance replacement 2605 02:11:45,785 --> 02:11:50,675 estimated at 446,500 water. 2606 02:11:51,425 --> 02:11:54,755 Obviously there's a number of regional water projects 2607 02:11:54,755 --> 02:11:57,875 that are going on that we were able to just take in 2608 02:11:58,665 --> 02:11:59,675 some grant funds. 2609 02:11:59,975 --> 02:12:01,955 And so those projects are going 2610 02:12:01,955 --> 02:12:04,995 to be accelerating over the next two years. 2611 02:12:05,705 --> 02:12:08,715 Council voted to accept a hundred percent grant funds 2612 02:12:09,095 --> 02:12:12,995 for phase two A projects, and that's at $11.3 million. 2613 02:12:13,135 --> 02:12:16,235 So none of those projects are costing the town of dairy 2614 02:12:16,255 --> 02:12:19,275 or the town of dairy water department rate payers, 2615 02:12:20,035 --> 02:12:22,155 anything in wastewater. 2616 02:12:22,855 --> 02:12:24,235 We do have a couple of projects 2617 02:12:24,355 --> 02:12:28,075 that will hit against their rates replacement of 1500 feet 2618 02:12:28,215 --> 02:12:29,675 of Effluent Force Maine. 2619 02:12:30,125 --> 02:12:33,675 We're obviously in the process of starting the design work 2620 02:12:33,735 --> 02:12:37,475 for the Route 28 South sewer going towards Ryan's Hill. 2621 02:12:38,015 --> 02:12:41,515 And obviously that's got an estimated cost of 6.18 million 2622 02:12:42,835 --> 02:12:44,835 EPA grant's gonna cover 80% 2623 02:12:44,835 --> 02:12:47,315 of a lower number at $3.2 million. 2624 02:12:47,415 --> 02:12:49,235 So again, we have revenue sources 2625 02:12:49,455 --> 02:12:51,355 to offset most of those costs. 2626 02:12:52,655 --> 02:12:55,595 And with that, when you blend this all together, 2627 02:12:55,815 --> 02:12:58,155 all the capital, all the spread payments, all the grants, 2628 02:12:59,455 --> 02:13:01,115 the bottom line for the capital 2629 02:13:01,415 --> 02:13:03,635 for fiscal 27 is 2630 02:13:03,665 --> 02:13:07,555 $4,092,207. 2631 02:13:09,985 --> 02:13:13,915 Council, I just have a question and it, we'll go back. 2632 02:13:13,915 --> 02:13:15,755 I'll use the fire vehicles as an example 2633 02:13:16,125 --> 02:13:18,675 where we're looking at some of them being two 2634 02:13:18,675 --> 02:13:19,835 to four years out. 2635 02:13:20,615 --> 02:13:23,715 So yeah, we may be setting aside in the capital plan this 2636 02:13:23,715 --> 02:13:28,155 year, but they're looking at a date of maybe 2030 to 2031. 2637 02:13:28,855 --> 02:13:30,435 Now we're encumbering that money. 2638 02:13:30,615 --> 02:13:34,465 Now does, do we, 2639 02:13:34,905 --> 02:13:38,185 I know there'll be some payments, you know, you pay 2640 02:13:38,185 --> 02:13:39,785 for the plans, you, you know, you pay 2641 02:13:39,785 --> 02:13:40,865 for deposits, stuff like this. 2642 02:13:40,865 --> 02:13:44,785 Yeah. But the bulk of the payment isn't paid at the end is 2643 02:13:46,255 --> 02:13:48,225 will we be collecting interest on those 2644 02:13:48,245 --> 02:13:51,385 and encumbered funds for ourselves? I 2645 02:13:51,385 --> 02:13:52,385 Believe we do. 2646 02:13:52,385 --> 02:13:53,145 And I'll have Mark come up and, 2647 02:13:53,145 --> 02:13:56,105 and clarify how that works on the shorter term borrowing. 2648 02:13:56,145 --> 02:13:57,425 I know how it works generally 2649 02:13:57,425 --> 02:13:59,585 for the longer term borrowing, but Yeah, 2650 02:13:59,725 --> 02:14:03,625 So when we go ahead and we approach a leasing company 2651 02:14:03,645 --> 02:14:07,145 and give them our needs, we, 2652 02:14:07,165 --> 02:14:09,185 we categorize each piece of equipment 2653 02:14:09,185 --> 02:14:12,145 or a vehicle depending on how long we wanna finance it. 2654 02:14:12,145 --> 02:14:13,985 So like the police cruisers, we go three years. 2655 02:14:14,055 --> 02:14:17,505 Most of the vehicles are five to seven fire apparatus. 2656 02:14:17,505 --> 02:14:18,905 We go out probably 10, 2657 02:14:19,805 --> 02:14:21,865 not necessarily ambulances, that would be like seven. 2658 02:14:23,565 --> 02:14:27,105 But whatever we decide during that year, we, 2659 02:14:27,245 --> 02:14:28,905 we are, it's not encumbered. 2660 02:14:28,905 --> 02:14:33,025 We end up basically issuing a PO and we start paying on it 2661 02:14:33,025 --> 02:14:34,305 before we even receive it. 2662 02:14:34,315 --> 02:14:36,625 Especially the way the lead times are these days. 2663 02:14:37,285 --> 02:14:40,465 So, you know, a piece of fire apparatus, 2664 02:14:40,645 --> 02:14:42,745 we have one out there that's been out there 2665 02:14:42,745 --> 02:14:46,745 for about seven years now and still paying on it. 2666 02:14:47,535 --> 02:14:49,225 Does that answer your question? I'm not sure if it does. 2667 02:14:49,245 --> 02:14:50,265 So I, I think it does. 2668 02:14:50,285 --> 02:14:51,865 So that in essence we're buying 2669 02:14:51,865 --> 02:14:55,665 that lease now we're paying on that lease before we even get 2670 02:14:55,665 --> 02:14:56,745 The vehicle, the, the first payment. 2671 02:14:56,805 --> 02:15:00,065 So whatever we take out in FY 17, I mean FY 27, 2672 02:15:00,405 --> 02:15:02,745 the first payment will be in FY 28 2673 02:15:03,605 --> 02:15:04,905 and then that's when it starts. 2674 02:15:05,215 --> 02:15:08,345 Yeah. And we might not even physically have possession 2675 02:15:08,345 --> 02:15:10,385 of the vehicle when we're paying on the lease. 2676 02:15:10,645 --> 02:15:15,415 That's correct. So it's getting so expensive with, 2677 02:15:15,565 --> 02:15:18,895 with these vehicles and the lead times is incredible. 2678 02:15:19,835 --> 02:15:23,055 We do have to try to figure out some different type 2679 02:15:23,055 --> 02:15:24,135 of financing, I think. 2680 02:15:24,135 --> 02:15:25,495 Yeah, because I'm wondering if, 2681 02:15:26,575 --> 02:15:29,495 I remember when we switched to the sing system from 2682 02:15:30,205 --> 02:15:32,975 basically directly purchasing the vehicles, which was 2683 02:15:32,975 --> 02:15:34,735 what, probably 10 years ago. 2684 02:15:35,325 --> 02:15:36,815 Yeah, I think that was about right. Yes. 2685 02:15:38,715 --> 02:15:41,815 So that when we, you know, again, 2686 02:15:42,285 --> 02:15:44,095 because the fire trucks are the ones, 2687 02:15:44,095 --> 02:15:45,935 and sometimes with the dump trucks and stuff like that, 2688 02:15:46,085 --> 02:15:49,495 because they're, we may encumber the money now, 2689 02:15:49,495 --> 02:15:51,695 but we may not actually physically receive the vehicle 2690 02:15:51,755 --> 02:15:53,055 for three to four years from now. 2691 02:15:53,055 --> 02:15:55,735 Correct. If we weren't leasing them 2692 02:15:55,995 --> 02:15:57,775 and we were doing the direct purchase of them, 2693 02:15:59,465 --> 02:16:02,055 would we be banking that money that we encumbered now 2694 02:16:02,055 --> 02:16:03,335 for the purchase of this budget 2695 02:16:03,595 --> 02:16:05,215 and generating interest on it? 2696 02:16:07,285 --> 02:16:09,945 You see where I might, yeah, 2697 02:16:10,525 --> 02:16:11,945 I'm, I'm not sure. 2698 02:16:12,145 --> 02:16:14,545 I mean, the way with the leasing company Yeah. 2699 02:16:14,765 --> 02:16:17,225 It, they take our, when once the lease is closed, 2700 02:16:17,365 --> 02:16:19,505 I'm talking about if we don't do, if we don't do a lease. 2701 02:16:19,755 --> 02:16:22,385 Right. I'm just, So let's say if we had to purchase 2702 02:16:22,385 --> 02:16:24,105 that $1.3 million firetruck, 2703 02:16:25,075 --> 02:16:28,025 which we would receive in 2031. 2704 02:16:28,355 --> 02:16:30,525 Right. We encumber 2705 02:16:30,525 --> 02:16:34,045 that funds in this capital, in this budget. 2706 02:16:34,145 --> 02:16:37,805 So that would be that $1.3 million in 2027, correct. 2707 02:16:37,815 --> 02:16:40,125 Right. And that money would, would carry on 2708 02:16:40,125 --> 02:16:42,525 to the next year as an encumbrance. Right. 2709 02:16:42,825 --> 02:16:44,565 Do we, It'll keep going until it turns, 2710 02:16:44,635 --> 02:16:45,925 till we actually pay for it. 2711 02:16:46,135 --> 02:16:48,285 Right. Does that encumbrance generate 2712 02:16:48,505 --> 02:16:49,965 any interest as of revenue? 2713 02:16:51,015 --> 02:16:52,275 It would generate interest. 2714 02:16:52,435 --> 02:16:53,795 'cause you haven't spent the cash. Yeah. 2715 02:16:53,795 --> 02:16:55,355 You haven't written a check yet for it. 2716 02:16:55,355 --> 02:16:57,755 You still have the cash, you just, it's just spoken for, 2717 02:16:58,135 --> 02:17:00,435 but they still, it's still gonna be 2718 02:17:00,825 --> 02:17:02,035 earning interest for you. 2719 02:17:03,935 --> 02:17:05,745 Does that make sense? Yeah. Okay. 2720 02:17:06,005 --> 02:17:08,225 And that's what I'm wondering if it makes sense to 2721 02:17:09,515 --> 02:17:11,945 where the we time is so great, if it still makes sense 2722 02:17:11,945 --> 02:17:16,795 to do the lease purchasing versus banking, 2723 02:17:16,935 --> 02:17:18,715 you know, encumbering banking the money now. 2724 02:17:19,615 --> 02:17:23,075 So with the lease, once we, once we close on the lease, 2725 02:17:23,075 --> 02:17:24,155 they take the whole lease 2726 02:17:24,375 --> 02:17:26,195 and they put it into an escrow account 2727 02:17:26,255 --> 02:17:29,235 and it collects interest until we draw on it. 2728 02:17:29,305 --> 02:17:31,155 Okay. When the vehicles are delivered. 2729 02:17:31,735 --> 02:17:33,955 So it could be sitting out there for years 2730 02:17:35,535 --> 02:17:37,875 as an open escrow account basically. 2731 02:17:37,875 --> 02:17:38,835 Yeah. All right. 2732 02:17:40,705 --> 02:17:43,265 Okay. We good? Yep. 2733 02:17:43,845 --> 02:17:46,265 Any other questions? Alright, 2734 02:17:46,765 --> 02:17:49,745 So, you know, for the questions Madam Chair, I would like 2735 02:17:49,745 --> 02:17:53,305 to move the bottom line for the, for the capital account 2736 02:17:54,005 --> 02:17:58,865 in the amount of $4,092,207 2737 02:17:59,485 --> 02:18:00,485 Second. 2738 02:18:00,895 --> 02:18:05,265 Alright, any discussion on the motion Council mills? Yes. 2739 02:18:05,495 --> 02:18:08,865 Councilor Webb? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Council Foot? 2740 02:18:08,925 --> 02:18:11,665 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. Five zero. 2741 02:18:12,765 --> 02:18:13,945 Mr. Fowler, anything else 2742 02:18:13,945 --> 02:18:14,945 This evening? 2743 02:18:14,945 --> 02:18:17,545 Yeah, so in closing, so we've mapped out 2744 02:18:18,085 --> 02:18:21,505 the two budget workshops tonight 2745 02:18:22,165 --> 02:18:23,865 and on last Thursday, 2746 02:18:23,965 --> 02:18:26,185 so appreciate all the staff's help on that. 2747 02:18:27,085 --> 02:18:31,225 Now I have a handful of questions more from the 2748 02:18:32,075 --> 02:18:36,025 first session, which I will bring back to the council 2749 02:18:37,125 --> 02:18:38,705 and I can do that on the 21st. 2750 02:18:38,725 --> 02:18:40,625 So we have something on our agenda 2751 02:18:41,035 --> 02:18:44,425 where if anybody has any questions or any concerns 2752 02:18:45,005 --> 02:18:46,545 before we go to the public hearing, 2753 02:18:46,545 --> 02:18:48,665 that'll be an opportunity to do so. 2754 02:18:49,085 --> 02:18:52,425 But I will also provide for the 21st 2755 02:18:53,005 --> 02:18:54,425 the answers to some of the questions. 2756 02:18:54,425 --> 02:18:57,305 We had some questions about how vehicles are inspected. 2757 02:18:57,305 --> 02:18:59,985 There was question tonight about what the balance 2758 02:19:00,015 --> 02:19:02,625 between online registrations versus that. 2759 02:19:02,645 --> 02:19:04,905 So they're, they're relatively minor questions 2760 02:19:04,905 --> 02:19:06,825 and most of them the department heads 2761 02:19:06,825 --> 02:19:07,985 have already answered for me. 2762 02:19:08,085 --> 02:19:10,345 So I'll provide that on the 21st. 2763 02:19:10,595 --> 02:19:14,425 We'll march into the public hearing for both the CIP 2764 02:19:14,425 --> 02:19:17,945 and FY 27 budget on the 23rd, 2765 02:19:18,245 --> 02:19:22,785 and then we're lined up for an official vote on May 5th. 2766 02:19:22,965 --> 02:19:24,265 So I think we're all in good shape. 2767 02:19:24,325 --> 02:19:27,605 The only other loose end is water and sewer rates. 2768 02:19:27,775 --> 02:19:29,805 Those are gonna go on the consent agenda. 2769 02:19:29,935 --> 02:19:34,165 Those are gonna be on the April 21st consent agenda. 2770 02:19:34,305 --> 02:19:37,805 You'll vote on both of those rate increases 2771 02:19:38,585 --> 02:19:39,765 on May 5th as well. 2772 02:19:40,355 --> 02:19:42,525 Okay. So I think we've got everything stitched up. 2773 02:19:42,705 --> 02:19:46,005 If there are any other questions, please let me know. 2774 02:19:46,035 --> 02:19:48,605 I'll try to have those available for the 21st. 2775 02:19:48,865 --> 02:19:50,845 And for the public, all this information 2776 02:19:51,195 --> 02:19:53,965 that we've talked about is on the town's website 2777 02:19:54,585 --> 02:19:57,485 and can be extracted any way. 2778 02:19:57,545 --> 02:19:59,685 You know, if you wanted to look at individual budgets. 2779 02:19:59,705 --> 02:20:01,645 And if there's any questions, feel free to reach out 2780 02:20:01,645 --> 02:20:02,805 to the town administrator's office. 2781 02:20:03,735 --> 02:20:07,165 Thank you. Anything else? All right. 2782 02:20:08,225 --> 02:20:09,685 Motion to adjourn. Second. 2783 02:20:10,225 --> 02:20:12,645 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? 2784 02:20:13,235 --> 02:20:15,045 Have a good night everyone. Thank you. Okay.