1 00:00:01,065 --> 00:00:02,925 I'd like to call the DER Conservation 2 00:00:02,925 --> 00:00:04,125 Commission meeting to order. 3 00:00:05,745 --> 00:00:07,685 Ask everybody to silence their cell phones 4 00:00:08,905 --> 00:00:10,765 and we will start off with the pledge of reasons 5 00:00:15,665 --> 00:00:15,885 aye. 6 00:00:16,985 --> 00:00:20,005 To the flag. Flag, the United States of America 7 00:00:20,625 --> 00:00:24,165 and to the Republic Nation Nation. 8 00:00:24,985 --> 00:00:28,085 God, Liberty, justice. 9 00:00:32,615 --> 00:00:36,605 Thank you. Emergency access are located at the back 10 00:00:37,305 --> 00:00:39,005 of the room in to my right. 11 00:00:39,065 --> 00:00:41,365 If there's a problem or emergency in the building, 12 00:00:41,365 --> 00:00:42,565 please don't use the elevator. 13 00:00:43,745 --> 00:00:46,645 If you need help getting out of the building, 14 00:00:46,645 --> 00:00:48,325 please ask one of the commissioners for help. 15 00:00:50,045 --> 00:00:51,565 We'll start with the introduction 16 00:00:51,625 --> 00:00:53,525 of commissioners, starting to my right. 17 00:00:54,505 --> 00:00:58,205 Cheryl Holbert, J Hildreth. Rick Metz. 18 00:00:58,865 --> 00:01:02,605 Bob Spro, Ppi. Lin Comy. 19 00:01:03,405 --> 00:01:06,085 Val Connolly, Elizabeth Carver, land manager. 20 00:01:07,595 --> 00:01:09,735 And I'm the chair. Ricardo Bazinga. 21 00:01:09,735 --> 00:01:13,135 We also have our town Council liaison. 22 00:01:13,405 --> 00:01:16,135 Charles Foote, president of the meeting. 23 00:01:18,575 --> 00:01:20,775 First order of business we have is the approval of minutes 24 00:01:20,795 --> 00:01:23,255 of April 6th, 2026. 25 00:01:23,395 --> 00:01:24,415 Jay sent those out to you. 26 00:01:24,435 --> 00:01:27,935 And there is a copy here if someone needs to see them. 27 00:01:29,195 --> 00:01:31,615 If, if they're acceptable, I'll entertain a motion. 28 00:01:33,205 --> 00:01:34,815 Just have one correction. Mr. Chair. 29 00:01:35,445 --> 00:01:37,295 Yeah. Mr. Metz On page two. 30 00:01:37,355 --> 00:01:40,615 The first full paragraph is a 31 00:01:40,615 --> 00:01:41,935 repeat of the one prior to that. 32 00:01:42,035 --> 00:01:45,375 So I, I'd like to strike the second one on page two. 33 00:01:53,445 --> 00:01:55,335 Okay. Does everybody see that? Yep. 34 00:01:56,035 --> 00:01:57,935 And is there any other amendments we need to make? 35 00:02:02,655 --> 00:02:05,035 Seeing none. I'll take a motion 36 00:02:05,335 --> 00:02:07,035 to accept those minutes as amended. 37 00:02:08,015 --> 00:02:12,945 So moved. I'll take a motion. I need a motion. 38 00:02:13,125 --> 00:02:14,785 Oh, you wanna make a motion Move to approve 39 00:02:14,785 --> 00:02:15,785 The amen. 40 00:02:15,785 --> 00:02:16,265 The minutes is amended. 41 00:02:16,565 --> 00:02:18,945 All right. Is there a second? Second that a first. By Mr. 42 00:02:19,215 --> 00:02:22,025 Metz. Second by Mr. Sperl. All those in favor say aye. 43 00:02:22,265 --> 00:02:26,425 A Aye. Opposed? Abstention. Okay. 44 00:02:26,425 --> 00:02:28,785 We also have to seat and seat a commissioner. 45 00:02:28,795 --> 00:02:33,025 We're gonna have Linda sit for Eileen. 46 00:02:33,025 --> 00:02:35,385 Linda, would you like, could you sit for Eileen? Yes. Okay. 47 00:02:35,385 --> 00:02:35,705 Thank you. 48 00:02:40,835 --> 00:02:43,685 Next we have our chairs, re chairs report. 49 00:02:44,185 --> 00:02:46,165 We, we maintain a a, 50 00:02:46,165 --> 00:02:50,365 we're still maintaining a pretty busy schedule in 51 00:02:50,365 --> 00:02:53,765 between meetings with correspondence with numerous 52 00:02:54,395 --> 00:02:56,965 town departments and town leadership. 53 00:02:58,705 --> 00:03:02,845 At least one weekly call with our land manager, Beth. 54 00:03:02,845 --> 00:03:05,405 Usually more than one usually turns into two 55 00:03:05,405 --> 00:03:06,405 or three weekly calls 56 00:03:06,405 --> 00:03:09,085 and a lot of correspondence moving our agenda. 57 00:03:09,225 --> 00:03:13,485 I'm gonna leave the, the meat of that to the land manager 58 00:03:13,545 --> 00:03:15,485 and have her give out the report. 59 00:03:15,765 --> 00:03:17,685 'cause she's quarterbacking pretty much everything we're 60 00:03:17,685 --> 00:03:21,765 doing in between meetings as far as correspondence, we have 61 00:03:22,745 --> 00:03:25,325 the annual report from Rockingham County 62 00:03:25,405 --> 00:03:26,685 Conservation District. 63 00:03:26,755 --> 00:03:30,045 This is money that we, we send money to this group 64 00:03:30,185 --> 00:03:32,325 and they're gonna tell, they sh tell you in this report 65 00:03:33,345 --> 00:03:34,805 how they spend it and what they're doing. 66 00:03:34,945 --> 00:03:36,125 I'm gonna hand it to my left. 67 00:03:43,755 --> 00:03:45,325 Okay. We have a site plan review. 68 00:03:46,315 --> 00:03:51,005 It's PID 5 1 0 8 4 74 Beaver Lake Ave. 69 00:03:53,215 --> 00:03:55,445 Cuomo, Cuomo's Beach Redevelopment. 70 00:03:56,155 --> 00:04:00,485 This is, I think it's Brandon's second 71 00:04:00,585 --> 00:04:02,485 or third time here on this project. 72 00:04:04,685 --> 00:04:07,365 I myself have walked it twice. I know. Eileen. 73 00:04:07,425 --> 00:04:08,925 Anyone else that's here now walk it. 74 00:04:09,045 --> 00:04:10,285 I know Eileen walked it with me. 75 00:04:10,895 --> 00:04:14,445 Ricky, did you walk it with me? No, no I didn't. 76 00:04:14,555 --> 00:04:17,965 Someone else was there. Let's see. Probably James. 77 00:04:18,865 --> 00:04:23,005 Was it James? Who was with me that day? Was it Eileen? 78 00:04:24,635 --> 00:04:26,765 Yeah. So we, I've walked it twice. 79 00:04:28,195 --> 00:04:30,125 This is Comos Beach, if anyone's familiar 80 00:04:30,125 --> 00:04:31,205 with, with Beaver Lake. 81 00:04:31,475 --> 00:04:34,565 It's, it's, we, it used to be like a, 82 00:04:35,195 --> 00:04:37,125 like a private public beach area 83 00:04:37,125 --> 00:04:39,005 where people in the neighborhood would go down and, 84 00:04:39,025 --> 00:04:40,365 and, and use this beach. 85 00:04:40,365 --> 00:04:42,925 It's been abandoned for, I would say I, 86 00:04:42,955 --> 00:04:44,765 I've lived in the lake for 22 years and, 87 00:04:44,765 --> 00:04:45,925 and it was abandoned when I got there. 88 00:04:45,925 --> 00:04:47,405 So it's been a, been abandoned for a while. 89 00:04:49,105 --> 00:04:54,085 So it looks like Brandon has gone to DES 90 00:04:54,425 --> 00:04:57,005 and is was back in front of the TRC with Mr. 91 00:04:57,235 --> 00:04:59,365 Metz recently. He's gonna tell us all about it. 92 00:04:59,365 --> 00:05:01,085 Brandon, can you set up state your name for the record? 93 00:05:07,205 --> 00:05:08,925 Good evening. My name is Brandon Wing 94 00:05:08,995 --> 00:05:10,205 from Promised Land Survey. 95 00:05:12,315 --> 00:05:14,245 Yeah, this has been, been it called 96 00:05:14,245 --> 00:05:15,365 before. What's it called? I'm sorry. What's 97 00:05:15,365 --> 00:05:16,245 That? What's the new name? 98 00:05:17,075 --> 00:05:19,245 Brandon Wing from Promised Land Survey. Oh, it's still 99 00:05:19,365 --> 00:05:20,365 Promised land. 100 00:05:20,365 --> 00:05:22,485 It's still the same, same joint. Yeah. I 101 00:05:22,485 --> 00:05:24,445 Thought, I thought, I thought Tim changed the name. No. 102 00:05:24,755 --> 00:05:26,325 Okay. So Again, 103 00:05:28,115 --> 00:05:31,165 Yeah, this has been before the commission. 104 00:05:31,165 --> 00:05:33,285 Before I, I think just once. 105 00:05:34,885 --> 00:05:38,205 It's been before the TRCI think twice. 106 00:05:39,455 --> 00:05:42,565 Three once. Three times. Three times. I think I lost track. 107 00:05:42,565 --> 00:05:44,285 It's beens been seen a whole bunch. 108 00:05:46,405 --> 00:05:48,565 I I provided two sets of plans. 109 00:05:48,865 --> 00:05:53,085 One is what, what we will likely be taken 110 00:05:53,745 --> 00:05:54,765 to the planning board. 111 00:05:55,455 --> 00:05:57,190 Let's do, Brendan, if I could just get, 112 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:58,790 just get you get some direction on this. 113 00:05:58,925 --> 00:05:59,925 'cause there's a lot of material we're 114 00:05:59,925 --> 00:06:00,845 gonna have to go through. 115 00:06:01,105 --> 00:06:04,565 Why don't we do the, the subdivision plan first? Okay. 116 00:06:04,735 --> 00:06:08,125 Let's run through that and then maybe touch upon the d This 117 00:06:08,125 --> 00:06:09,725 is gonna have a DES permit on 118 00:06:09,725 --> 00:06:10,725 It, right? 119 00:06:10,725 --> 00:06:11,925 It it has, I I have already Yes. 120 00:06:11,925 --> 00:06:13,485 Gotten the permit. Yes. Okay. 121 00:06:13,745 --> 00:06:15,245 And just before you go through the site, 122 00:06:15,445 --> 00:06:16,405 well let's do the site plan 123 00:06:16,405 --> 00:06:17,485 and then we'll talk about that other piece. 124 00:06:17,485 --> 00:06:19,765 Okay. Let's do this, let's do the subdivision plan first. 125 00:06:19,785 --> 00:06:21,125 And, and for protocol reasons, 126 00:06:21,755 --> 00:06:24,965 this subdivision plan needs a vote by the commission. 127 00:06:25,265 --> 00:06:27,765 Yep. For the chair to sign the plan 128 00:06:27,765 --> 00:06:31,165 because of the subdivision in the wetland impact, 129 00:06:31,215 --> 00:06:32,445 maybe not the wetland impact. 130 00:06:32,565 --> 00:06:34,045 'cause you're going right to DS on that 131 00:06:34,305 --> 00:06:35,885 or is it also for the wetland impact? 132 00:06:36,035 --> 00:06:40,565 Well, when I went to TRC before I went 133 00:06:40,565 --> 00:06:42,125 and came, I, I walked in with you 134 00:06:42,785 --> 00:06:46,405 and we kind of agreed that certain things had 135 00:06:46,405 --> 00:06:47,445 to be address down in the wetland. 136 00:06:47,445 --> 00:06:49,245 Right. There's a building in the wetland. Sure. 137 00:06:49,515 --> 00:06:51,965 There's a failed drainage, which is doing no good. 138 00:06:51,965 --> 00:06:53,525 It's just a pipe laying in the wetland 139 00:06:53,525 --> 00:06:55,885 and the wetland's flowing right by it. So, but, 140 00:06:56,105 --> 00:06:57,685 But protocol wise, the subdivision, 141 00:06:57,865 --> 00:06:59,365 the subdivision plan needs, needs, 142 00:06:59,365 --> 00:07:00,685 needs a signature by the chair. 143 00:07:01,175 --> 00:07:02,965 Right, right. And that's why, that's kind 144 00:07:02,965 --> 00:07:05,685 of why we walked it and we were like, and 145 00:07:05,685 --> 00:07:07,005 because you weren't gonna sign off on it 146 00:07:07,005 --> 00:07:10,005 before the first TRC, which under understood and I agree. 147 00:07:10,035 --> 00:07:11,525 Yeah. So 148 00:07:11,605 --> 00:07:12,885 We pushed back on it the first time. 149 00:07:13,205 --> 00:07:16,085 'cause we've, we discovered even Brandon discovered some 150 00:07:16,085 --> 00:07:17,165 new stuff when we went to look at it. 151 00:07:17,215 --> 00:07:20,405 Right. So that part we need, we need to get a vote on that. 152 00:07:20,505 --> 00:07:21,725 And then do, is there, 153 00:07:21,785 --> 00:07:24,805 is there a vote needed on the DES stuff? Or is DES 154 00:07:24,805 --> 00:07:26,965 No, I, I already came for to you for that. Okay. 155 00:07:27,105 --> 00:07:30,165 And then, so what'll happen is when DES issues the permit, 156 00:07:30,255 --> 00:07:34,805 we'll get notified and then we can comment on that permit. 157 00:07:35,545 --> 00:07:37,565 So for tonight's work, 158 00:07:38,655 --> 00:07:40,725 we're gonna get a presentation for a subdivision. 159 00:07:41,745 --> 00:07:45,925 And if, if the presentation satisfies the commissioners, 160 00:07:46,455 --> 00:07:50,165 we're gonna, we're gonna potentially vote on that tonight 161 00:07:50,505 --> 00:07:51,845 for a signature on that plan. 162 00:07:51,905 --> 00:07:53,285 Is that, do I got, do I have that right? 163 00:07:53,445 --> 00:07:55,805 I I love it. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Alright, fire away. 164 00:07:57,185 --> 00:08:01,005 So I have, I have gotten the de the, the 165 00:08:01,925 --> 00:08:03,165 DES permit already. 166 00:08:03,395 --> 00:08:05,765 Okay. I have to go for shoreland also, 167 00:08:05,785 --> 00:08:09,285 but I've gotten the, the impact permit for the removal 168 00:08:09,285 --> 00:08:11,485 of the building and restoration of the wetland. 169 00:08:14,185 --> 00:08:15,525 So let's do the subdivision. But 170 00:08:15,525 --> 00:08:17,285 That was, that was kind of part 171 00:08:17,285 --> 00:08:19,125 of meeting the requirements 172 00:08:19,125 --> 00:08:21,365 for the subdivision from, from the commission. 173 00:08:21,595 --> 00:08:24,165 Okay. I I think that was my understanding. Got it. 174 00:08:24,425 --> 00:08:27,005 But yeah, the, the, 175 00:08:27,265 --> 00:08:30,165 the subdivision plan is the one with six sheets. 176 00:08:30,165 --> 00:08:31,605 You'll see on the right hand side 177 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:35,165 subdivision overview plan sheet one of six. 178 00:08:35,195 --> 00:08:39,165 That, that set is the one we'll be looking at. I'm gonna 179 00:08:39,165 --> 00:08:40,165 Hold it up. 180 00:08:40,165 --> 00:08:42,125 It's this one of the two that you have. It's that one. Yep. 181 00:08:44,075 --> 00:08:45,075 Okay. 182 00:08:47,755 --> 00:08:50,805 Yeah. There's, there's enough frontage 183 00:08:50,805 --> 00:08:53,085 and land area for a two lot subdivision. 184 00:08:53,705 --> 00:08:54,805 We received a variance 185 00:08:54,865 --> 00:08:57,645 for access on a non town approved road, 186 00:08:57,645 --> 00:09:00,885 which is Jenny Dickey Hill Road for the second lot. 187 00:09:03,795 --> 00:09:07,885 There's, there's existing easements on the property 188 00:09:09,465 --> 00:09:11,765 for access to some people that live on the lake. 189 00:09:12,235 --> 00:09:14,485 Also. There's sewer easements owned by the town 190 00:09:15,105 --> 00:09:18,485 and there's rights to 191 00:09:19,835 --> 00:09:24,765 several, several of the abutters, like on Charleston 192 00:09:24,765 --> 00:09:28,005 and up that way to use the beach down there. 193 00:09:29,825 --> 00:09:32,565 So the subdivision plan, I'm trying to clean up the, 194 00:09:32,895 --> 00:09:34,965 clean up the math of the easements a little bit 195 00:09:34,995 --> 00:09:37,565 because there's, there's just ease. 196 00:09:37,565 --> 00:09:38,925 There's rights that are named 197 00:09:39,585 --> 00:09:43,485 but not clean, not not defined. 198 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:45,285 So we're trying to define those. 199 00:09:54,585 --> 00:09:57,285 You guys probably don't necessarily care much about 200 00:09:58,195 --> 00:10:00,005 site distance, but I've, we've, 201 00:10:00,815 --> 00:10:04,765 we've achieved safe site distance per town regulations. 202 00:10:06,505 --> 00:10:08,685 The biggest the biggest issue 203 00:10:09,405 --> 00:10:11,925 conservation wise is the wetland down in the back, 204 00:10:11,925 --> 00:10:16,125 which were, which I've taken through the permitting process 205 00:10:16,235 --> 00:10:17,765 with the d the DES 206 00:10:19,585 --> 00:10:23,285 and we're proposing to remove the existing beach house 207 00:10:24,985 --> 00:10:26,285 and the failed drainage 208 00:10:26,285 --> 00:10:27,725 and restore the wetland instead 209 00:10:27,965 --> 00:10:29,245 of trying to fix the drainage. 210 00:10:29,345 --> 00:10:31,205 It, there was no point in fixing the drainage. 211 00:10:31,205 --> 00:10:32,525 The wetland flows right by it. 212 00:10:32,835 --> 00:10:34,805 It's, it's a pipe laying in a wetland. 213 00:10:35,665 --> 00:10:40,245 So that's, that's kind of a brief summary of the project. 214 00:10:46,765 --> 00:10:49,265 So You're, you're taking, you're taking one lot, 215 00:10:49,265 --> 00:10:50,465 you're dividing it into two, 216 00:10:51,165 --> 00:10:53,705 you have some proposed dwelling areas on it. 217 00:10:53,855 --> 00:10:55,145 Does everyone see where those are? 218 00:10:55,955 --> 00:10:57,145 We're kind of up near the road. 219 00:11:00,735 --> 00:11:05,065 It's on municipal sewer, which we'll be tying into. 220 00:11:08,565 --> 00:11:11,545 And we propose private wells, onsite wells, 221 00:11:13,565 --> 00:11:15,145 and Yes, a two lot subdivision. 222 00:11:15,285 --> 00:11:18,305 Two turning the one lot into two lots, two 223 00:11:18,885 --> 00:11:20,425 single family residential lots. 224 00:11:29,445 --> 00:11:31,985 And the lake is, the lake is one part of town 225 00:11:31,985 --> 00:11:33,385 that actually has towns soar. 226 00:11:33,385 --> 00:11:35,745 Which is, which is a good thing. 227 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:39,385 Otherwise the lake would be dead. Yeah. 228 00:11:39,565 --> 00:11:41,945 So we, we got that back in the eighties. 229 00:11:41,945 --> 00:11:45,145 They, they tied all the houses into the town sewer system. 230 00:11:55,515 --> 00:11:59,455 So Brandon, based on the, based on the plan that I see now 231 00:11:59,645 --> 00:12:04,015 with the gravel path, it, it appears that you're only 232 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:07,295 crossing, you're, you're just on the edge 233 00:12:07,295 --> 00:12:09,655 of the wetland delineated wetlands 234 00:12:10,095 --> 00:12:12,015 and you're only crossing the wetlands down 235 00:12:12,015 --> 00:12:13,135 towards the beach. 236 00:12:13,395 --> 00:12:15,455 And it looks like a small section 237 00:12:15,515 --> 00:12:16,775 of crossing with that gravel 238 00:12:16,775 --> 00:12:17,935 path. Am I correct or incorrect? 239 00:12:18,205 --> 00:12:19,775 Yeah, that is, that is correct. 240 00:12:22,065 --> 00:12:25,135 We'll, we'll talk about the impact plan in a minute. Yep. 241 00:12:25,135 --> 00:12:29,535 But yeah, proposing a, a walkway essentially through 242 00:12:29,535 --> 00:12:30,855 where the building is because, 243 00:12:30,885 --> 00:12:34,655 because there's, there's rights that exist to use the, 244 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:37,255 the beach for, for bathing 245 00:12:37,995 --> 00:12:39,575 as you know, according to the deeds. 246 00:12:39,585 --> 00:12:43,575 Right. So we have to, you know, 247 00:12:43,575 --> 00:12:45,375 make sure people can get there, basically. 248 00:12:58,395 --> 00:13:01,455 And we'd like to define where they can get there instead 249 00:13:01,455 --> 00:13:03,095 of just going wherever they want through the wetland. 250 00:13:03,095 --> 00:13:05,695 We'd wanna just, just define where they, 251 00:13:05,705 --> 00:13:07,135 where they access would be. 252 00:13:12,095 --> 00:13:13,985 Okay. So on, on the subdivision plan, 253 00:13:13,985 --> 00:13:15,825 and we're going to, we're gonna take up, 254 00:13:15,875 --> 00:13:19,585 we're gonna have questions on the, on the other plan also, 255 00:13:21,005 --> 00:13:25,425 do the commissioners want to hear about the DES project 256 00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:29,185 before we act on the subdivision plan? 257 00:13:29,185 --> 00:13:30,985 We're kinda like wearing two hats on this project. 258 00:13:32,015 --> 00:13:34,465 From the d from the subdivision plan. 259 00:13:35,585 --> 00:13:38,425 Conservation commission approves the subdivision 260 00:13:38,685 --> 00:13:39,905 or doesn't approve the subdivision. 261 00:13:41,085 --> 00:13:45,865 On the DES piece, we can 262 00:13:48,145 --> 00:13:53,035 Comment to DES based on, based on the, 263 00:13:53,135 --> 00:13:54,355 the, the DES permit. 264 00:13:54,415 --> 00:13:57,595 So DES issues, the permit, we get noted, we get notified 265 00:13:57,905 --> 00:13:59,155 that that permit has been issued 266 00:13:59,455 --> 00:14:02,075 and then we that choose to 267 00:14:04,585 --> 00:14:07,955 comment or not comment on that, on that plan. 268 00:14:09,185 --> 00:14:11,635 Like, one of the comments we might wanna make is 269 00:14:12,265 --> 00:14:14,915 that we prefer the boardwalk over the gravel 270 00:14:16,465 --> 00:14:18,795 pathway or vice versa. 271 00:14:18,975 --> 00:14:20,915 May maybe, maybe we prefer it the other way, 272 00:14:21,935 --> 00:14:24,715 but just from a, from a protocol standpoint, do you want 273 00:14:24,715 --> 00:14:26,395 to hear about the DES piece 274 00:14:26,395 --> 00:14:28,875 or do you want to act on the subdivision first? 275 00:14:29,685 --> 00:14:31,315 Gimme some, gimme some feedback. 276 00:14:31,875 --> 00:14:33,395 I like to hear about The DES piece. 277 00:14:33,625 --> 00:14:35,835 Hear about the DS piece? Yes, that'd be great. Yeah. Okay. 278 00:14:35,835 --> 00:14:37,355 Alright. Definitely. Yeah. 279 00:14:37,355 --> 00:14:39,195 I, I think it's, I think that's a good idea. 280 00:14:39,195 --> 00:14:41,875 I think it's integral to the, 281 00:14:41,945 --> 00:14:42,945 Alright, good. 282 00:14:42,945 --> 00:14:44,795 So good. Fire. Tell tell us how this DESP. 283 00:14:44,795 --> 00:14:46,035 So, so there's a building there. 284 00:14:46,035 --> 00:14:47,995 You're gonna take the, the buildings in the wetland 285 00:14:47,995 --> 00:14:49,275 Built in the wetland, correct? 286 00:14:49,295 --> 00:14:51,405 Yep. Tell us, tell us all about that. 287 00:14:51,545 --> 00:14:53,125 How you plan on getting rid of that building 288 00:14:53,185 --> 00:14:55,965 and then how you plan on dealing with getting people down 289 00:14:55,965 --> 00:14:57,165 to the, down to the water. 290 00:14:58,265 --> 00:15:01,285 So there, yeah, there's obviously a building. 291 00:15:02,115 --> 00:15:04,605 When I delineated the wetlands, I, I went literally 292 00:15:04,605 --> 00:15:05,685 to the building corners 293 00:15:05,705 --> 00:15:08,605 and to the corner of pavement or whatever around it. 294 00:15:09,165 --> 00:15:12,285 'cause if it wasn't there, the wetland would continue. 295 00:15:12,465 --> 00:15:15,285 But there's, there's a building, so it's not a wetland. 296 00:15:15,285 --> 00:15:18,085 Once you remove the building, it'll be a wetland. 297 00:15:20,305 --> 00:15:22,005 How you gonna move? How, how do you remove the building? 298 00:15:22,105 --> 00:15:23,105 I'm curious. 299 00:15:23,575 --> 00:15:25,845 Helicopter. Helicopter. No, just kidding. 300 00:15:26,425 --> 00:15:27,765 I'm not doing it personally. 301 00:15:29,505 --> 00:15:33,605 The, i, I got a impact permit to dredge 302 00:15:33,605 --> 00:15:35,805 and fill, to remove the building 303 00:15:35,875 --> 00:15:37,565 with excavators with equipment. 304 00:15:39,195 --> 00:15:41,965 It's a minimum impact. So it's less than 3000 square feet. 305 00:15:43,475 --> 00:15:45,535 So like those mats, you put the mats down and, 306 00:15:45,755 --> 00:15:46,935 and then pull 'em back up again. 307 00:15:47,015 --> 00:15:48,575 How do, how do you get an excavator down? 308 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:52,095 Oh, there's a, there's a gravel, there's a gravel access 309 00:15:52,095 --> 00:15:53,695 through there already that's not in the wetland. 310 00:15:53,715 --> 00:15:56,215 So they can actually get to the building itself. Right. 311 00:15:56,395 --> 00:15:58,495 And the, and the southwest corner 312 00:15:58,495 --> 00:15:59,935 of the building is, is high. 313 00:16:00,115 --> 00:16:02,055 So that's not a wetland. And they can, they can get 314 00:16:02,075 --> 00:16:04,615 to it without, without impacting wetland. So they can 315 00:16:04,615 --> 00:16:06,215 Get that whole building from that, that corner. 316 00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:07,455 They don't have to go on the other side. 317 00:16:07,455 --> 00:16:08,855 Yep, yep. They can get to it 318 00:16:08,855 --> 00:16:12,055 that way They can pull the building out, break it. 319 00:16:12,195 --> 00:16:14,095 Oh wow. Remove it. Whatever they need to do. 320 00:16:14,555 --> 00:16:18,135 But they actually have, i, I have a permitted impact area 321 00:16:18,205 --> 00:16:20,935 that they can drive in the wetland 322 00:16:20,935 --> 00:16:23,295 and remove all the concrete 323 00:16:23,315 --> 00:16:26,855 or whatever they need to, including that drainage pipe 324 00:16:26,875 --> 00:16:29,495 and the concrete structure right on sheet one, 325 00:16:29,495 --> 00:16:31,295 right in the middle, you can see concrete structure 326 00:16:31,295 --> 00:16:32,815 of the chain link fence cover. 327 00:16:33,245 --> 00:16:37,775 It's like a concrete box that nothing can flow into it. 328 00:16:37,775 --> 00:16:40,655 I don't know why it's even there, but it was put there like 329 00:16:40,945 --> 00:16:43,455 years ago and it's doing no good. 330 00:16:44,155 --> 00:16:46,455 And you're gonna take all the car, all that whole 331 00:16:46,845 --> 00:16:47,845 Come out. 332 00:16:47,845 --> 00:16:48,735 Yep. We removing that, grading that out 333 00:16:48,995 --> 00:16:50,975 and seeding it with wetland mix, 334 00:16:50,975 --> 00:16:52,935 two different wetland mix seeds. 335 00:16:53,245 --> 00:16:55,535 Okay. So basically that section that's, 336 00:16:55,685 --> 00:16:58,295 that they're gonna impact to remove the building 337 00:16:58,315 --> 00:17:01,695 and that failed drainage will be restored 338 00:17:02,235 --> 00:17:04,575 as a wetland, accept the path. 339 00:17:09,065 --> 00:17:13,245 But to get there, machinery can get 340 00:17:13,245 --> 00:17:15,485 to it without impacting the wetland. 341 00:17:15,985 --> 00:17:17,525 But they do have to impact the wetland. 342 00:17:17,525 --> 00:17:20,285 Where, where they're gonna do the work, retrieve 343 00:17:20,285 --> 00:17:21,285 The building. 344 00:17:22,765 --> 00:17:24,545 Is that gonna be a raised boardwalk? 345 00:17:25,735 --> 00:17:27,665 Well, there was a lot of conversation about 346 00:17:27,665 --> 00:17:32,545 that at the TRC boardwalk 347 00:17:32,545 --> 00:17:34,505 sounds nice and pretty and it would be nice, 348 00:17:35,325 --> 00:17:37,985 but it won't last forever. 349 00:17:38,245 --> 00:17:40,505 So there's gonna be a point where it'll need maintenance. 350 00:17:42,605 --> 00:17:46,465 So there was discussion about how would you police that? 351 00:17:46,605 --> 00:17:48,585 Who who would maintain it? Who would pay for it. 352 00:17:51,305 --> 00:17:54,725 And when you do, if, if someone were to maintain it, 353 00:17:55,475 --> 00:17:59,005 it's gonna require additional wetland impact essentially. 354 00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:03,845 So the conversation we had at TRC is that, and, 355 00:18:03,845 --> 00:18:06,805 and it seemed like there was consensus 356 00:18:06,805 --> 00:18:08,445 that people would rather just have a trail 357 00:18:08,745 --> 00:18:11,805 or a path through the wetland instead of a raised boardwalk. 358 00:18:15,475 --> 00:18:16,565 Beth, you were there 359 00:18:16,865 --> 00:18:19,725 and that kind of sounded like what people were saying. 360 00:18:20,125 --> 00:18:23,285 I, I think Yep, I agree. And Rick was there as well. 361 00:18:23,305 --> 00:18:26,565 So I I don't necessarily disagree. 362 00:18:26,685 --> 00:18:31,065 I think it would be nicer looking to have a boardwalk 363 00:18:31,525 --> 00:18:33,705 but less practicable and practical. 364 00:18:34,215 --> 00:18:35,745 Does he, is that gonna change the, 365 00:18:36,165 --> 00:18:37,505 the wetland permit at all? 366 00:18:40,785 --> 00:18:43,625 I don't know. I don't know probably. 367 00:18:44,245 --> 00:18:48,105 But when the building is removed, it, it, we might have 368 00:18:48,105 --> 00:18:50,625 to see how the wetland behaves, how it looks, 369 00:18:50,695 --> 00:18:52,345 what it's gonna, what it's gonna look like. 370 00:18:53,645 --> 00:18:55,825 And then if I have to go back for an amended permit, 371 00:18:55,825 --> 00:18:57,025 then I'll do so at that point. 372 00:18:57,685 --> 00:18:59,505 So, but I, if the commission has to agree 373 00:18:59,505 --> 00:19:00,705 with it, you know. Yeah. So 374 00:19:00,705 --> 00:19:04,105 If you don't do the, so if you don't do the, you've been, 375 00:19:04,245 --> 00:19:06,185 so the permit you have now is for boardwalk, right? 376 00:19:06,185 --> 00:19:08,265 Yep. Yes. Right. So if you don't do the boardwalk 377 00:19:08,265 --> 00:19:10,185 and do the gravel, you're gonna more likely than 378 00:19:10,185 --> 00:19:11,345 not need an amendment permit. 379 00:19:11,785 --> 00:19:13,545 I don't think they'll consider Right. 380 00:19:13,565 --> 00:19:14,985 The gravel path and, 381 00:19:15,085 --> 00:19:18,065 and that, so if that happens, just so you know, 382 00:19:18,095 --> 00:19:21,265 from our perspective, so if they amend the permit, 383 00:19:21,335 --> 00:19:22,745 then we get notified again 384 00:19:23,765 --> 00:19:27,825 and saying, Hey, this previously approved DES permit has 385 00:19:27,825 --> 00:19:31,545 been amended for these reasons. 386 00:19:31,845 --> 00:19:34,425 And then we get, we have another opportunity to, 387 00:19:34,445 --> 00:19:35,625 to kind of chime in on it. 388 00:19:37,095 --> 00:19:42,025 Yeah. All right. 389 00:19:42,025 --> 00:19:44,065 Any, any questions for the commissioners on, 390 00:19:44,165 --> 00:19:47,185 on, on this project? 391 00:19:52,615 --> 00:19:55,825 It's come a long way from when I walked it 392 00:19:56,445 --> 00:19:57,705 the two years ago, probably Bernard, 393 00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:00,185 There was snow on the ground. 394 00:20:00,185 --> 00:20:01,305 That's all I remember. It's 395 00:20:01,305 --> 00:20:02,305 Definitely not this one that cold. 396 00:20:02,305 --> 00:20:03,665 It was the winter winter before, right? 397 00:20:04,055 --> 00:20:06,705 Last year maybe, or the year before. I don't know, year or 398 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:07,705 Month ago. 399 00:20:07,705 --> 00:20:11,585 Maybe you'll, you are likely aware of the, the new DES 400 00:20:12,195 --> 00:20:15,545 department, the ecological review committee 401 00:20:15,605 --> 00:20:19,425 or whatever, ecological, it's, it's like a new thing. 402 00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:24,105 Every, everything you take to the state wetlands 403 00:20:24,105 --> 00:20:25,265 and shoreland wise 404 00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:29,225 and a OT wise, it, you have to send a packet 405 00:20:29,605 --> 00:20:33,785 for ecological review to, to look at and they give you it. 406 00:20:33,855 --> 00:20:37,425 It's, it's related to the NHB Natural Heritage Bureau. 407 00:20:38,085 --> 00:20:39,985 So you'd go on, you go online and, 408 00:20:40,125 --> 00:20:42,945 and mark out your boundaries on the data checker tool 409 00:20:43,205 --> 00:20:45,585 and you send it to them and they review it. 410 00:20:45,895 --> 00:20:49,765 They can no longer legally tell you if there are endangered 411 00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:50,965 species on your on. 412 00:20:51,075 --> 00:20:54,245 They can't tell me if I work for you. 413 00:20:54,395 --> 00:20:56,725 They can tell you if there's endangered species on your 414 00:20:56,725 --> 00:20:58,125 land, but they can't tell anyone else. 415 00:20:59,105 --> 00:21:01,285 So they just give you like a general, 416 00:21:02,345 --> 00:21:04,925 you'll see on sheet four of four of 417 00:21:04,925 --> 00:21:07,765 that plant set blandings spotted in wood turtles. 418 00:21:08,415 --> 00:21:10,445 Those are in the vicinity. 419 00:21:11,665 --> 00:21:14,525 But I happened to get this in before the law changed 420 00:21:14,665 --> 00:21:15,805 and I saw where they were 421 00:21:16,425 --> 00:21:18,205 and it was like two miles up the road 422 00:21:18,665 --> 00:21:20,645 and one was like a female blandings turtle 423 00:21:20,645 --> 00:21:21,645 with a damaged eye. 424 00:21:21,705 --> 00:21:26,325 And it, it's, you know, it's just habitat for these turtles, 425 00:21:26,325 --> 00:21:27,845 but they weren't spotted on the property. 426 00:21:33,505 --> 00:21:37,725 My opinion is that neither a boardwalk 427 00:21:37,785 --> 00:21:42,585 nor a gravel trail will harm the turtles at all. 428 00:21:42,985 --> 00:21:46,785 I think if, if we were to build something so that the, 429 00:21:47,325 --> 00:21:50,865 the water was like rerouted from the wetland to a pipe 430 00:21:50,865 --> 00:21:52,625 or something to cross the gravel trail 431 00:21:52,685 --> 00:21:55,745 or whatever, we, whatever it would be proposed in the 432 00:21:55,745 --> 00:21:58,385 future, it would impound that wetland 433 00:21:58,925 --> 00:22:01,025 and that whatever the, the dam 434 00:22:01,765 --> 00:22:03,905 or whatever it is, re retaining wall, whatever, 435 00:22:04,215 --> 00:22:07,785 that would be more detrimental 436 00:22:07,885 --> 00:22:10,065 to turtle habitat than just a trail. 437 00:22:17,115 --> 00:22:19,255 And this is only foot traffic by the way, on, on this. 438 00:22:19,685 --> 00:22:21,095 It's only foot traffic allowed. 439 00:22:29,395 --> 00:22:32,855 So with the recommendation from TRC against maybe against 440 00:22:32,875 --> 00:22:34,775 the boardwalk with long-term maintenance and stuff, 441 00:22:34,775 --> 00:22:36,255 and then gravel trail already kind 442 00:22:36,255 --> 00:22:38,135 of being positioned there, especially with access. 443 00:22:38,515 --> 00:22:41,215 Sounds like it'd make the most sense to just continue 444 00:22:41,215 --> 00:22:42,615 that gravel trail after 445 00:22:44,035 --> 00:22:46,575 The consensus was, and especially from the town engineer 446 00:22:47,285 --> 00:22:50,295 that the gravel trail versus the boardwalk would be 447 00:22:51,055 --> 00:22:52,135 a much more palatable. 448 00:22:52,205 --> 00:22:56,055 Yeah. Again, lower maintenance, less intrusion. 449 00:22:56,195 --> 00:22:59,295 How are you gonna build a boardwalk through the wetlands? 450 00:22:59,875 --> 00:23:02,095 How are you gonna maintain it? All of those things 451 00:23:02,465 --> 00:23:04,695 where the gravel walk kind of goes around 452 00:23:04,755 --> 00:23:07,375 beside it crosses at a small section and, 453 00:23:07,435 --> 00:23:08,655 and heads to the beach. 454 00:23:09,315 --> 00:23:10,315 So 455 00:23:22,955 --> 00:23:24,935 Any more comments or questions from the commission? 456 00:23:25,725 --> 00:23:29,495 Alright, so protocol would be, if, if, if it is the, 457 00:23:31,875 --> 00:23:33,695 the intent of the commission would be a motion 458 00:23:33,795 --> 00:23:35,575 to have the chair sign the plan 459 00:23:36,715 --> 00:23:38,735 and then we take that, we take a vote on that. 460 00:23:39,035 --> 00:23:42,455 If so, if anyone interested in making that motion, they may, 461 00:23:43,235 --> 00:23:44,855 we need to first, a second and then a vote. 462 00:23:47,715 --> 00:23:48,925 Move to approve the plan 463 00:23:48,945 --> 00:23:52,525 and have the chair sign the plans as presented 464 00:23:52,525 --> 00:23:55,365 for 74 Cuomos beach second. 465 00:23:55,835 --> 00:23:58,005 Alright, Riva, first and a second on the floor. 466 00:23:58,005 --> 00:23:59,405 I'm gonna ask for a roll call on this starting 467 00:23:59,405 --> 00:24:02,365 to my right shall yes? Yes. 468 00:24:02,665 --> 00:24:05,765 Jay? Yes, Rick, yes, yes, 469 00:24:06,385 --> 00:24:07,885 Yes, yes, yes. 470 00:24:08,745 --> 00:24:12,765 I'm gonna vote no. So there'll be, it'll be 471 00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:14,885 1, 2, 6 472 00:24:14,885 --> 00:24:14,965 to 473 00:24:14,965 --> 00:24:19,965 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 1 6 yeses. 474 00:24:20,145 --> 00:24:23,445 One. No, thank you Brenda. Thank you. 475 00:24:26,145 --> 00:24:26,845 Thanks Brenda. 476 00:24:52,155 --> 00:24:53,405 Okay, moving on. 477 00:24:53,505 --> 00:24:55,765 We have Jay with the community garden report. 478 00:24:57,675 --> 00:25:01,325 Okay. This is a really the most exciting 479 00:25:01,355 --> 00:25:02,685 time of the year for us. 480 00:25:03,065 --> 00:25:06,165 The snow's melted and the mud kind of 481 00:25:06,945 --> 00:25:08,765 didn't really appear like you'd expect. 482 00:25:09,315 --> 00:25:13,165 Certainly wasn't like last year. A much drier early season. 483 00:25:14,065 --> 00:25:16,245 And we are ready to 484 00:25:19,665 --> 00:25:23,565 create the, to execute the plan to get 485 00:25:24,225 --> 00:25:27,565 the garden amended with soil and manure 486 00:25:28,825 --> 00:25:33,725 and tilled In the week 487 00:25:33,725 --> 00:25:36,405 before, during the weekday, 488 00:25:36,545 --> 00:25:40,685 before we have an event on that next Saturday, which will be 489 00:25:41,765 --> 00:25:45,165 bringing our gardeners together help 490 00:25:45,305 --> 00:25:49,925 and asking for help to stake the plots, 491 00:25:51,015 --> 00:25:54,085 doing a demo on how to create a raised bed, 492 00:25:55,975 --> 00:25:57,325 doing a plant exchange 493 00:26:00,785 --> 00:26:02,965 and just something to bring in the new season. 494 00:26:03,985 --> 00:26:06,565 By that point, we should, people should be able to 495 00:26:09,215 --> 00:26:13,045 start gardening and putting seeds and, and plants in. 496 00:26:13,815 --> 00:26:16,885 We're looking at, this is being a much earlier season than 497 00:26:16,915 --> 00:26:21,245 last year, which was the end, literally the very end 498 00:26:21,265 --> 00:26:22,685 of May last year. 499 00:26:23,115 --> 00:26:24,245 It's much drier. 500 00:26:24,475 --> 00:26:28,445 I've done two soil squeeze tests 501 00:26:28,785 --> 00:26:31,445 and falls apart. 502 00:26:31,645 --> 00:26:34,725 I just tonight going by, I did it again. 503 00:26:34,725 --> 00:26:38,085 Even with the rain still soil's breaking apart. 504 00:26:38,595 --> 00:26:40,605 There's not that excess moisture 505 00:26:40,635 --> 00:26:45,165 that would prevent us from being able to till now. 506 00:26:45,165 --> 00:26:49,045 We have to get the, we have to get the amendments together, 507 00:26:49,225 --> 00:26:51,245 the manure and the fertilizer. 508 00:26:51,885 --> 00:26:56,525 I have procured a dump luck, a 509 00:26:57,305 --> 00:27:02,085 he told me a 10 wheel dump truck load, which is about 510 00:27:02,905 --> 00:27:05,085 275 to 300 511 00:27:05,145 --> 00:27:07,285 and cubic feet worth of 512 00:27:08,705 --> 00:27:13,485 6, 6 5 to six month aged manure, 513 00:27:13,745 --> 00:27:16,445 cow manure right across my street. 514 00:27:16,625 --> 00:27:18,845 We sometimes smell the results of that. 515 00:27:20,065 --> 00:27:24,965 And so he is willing to take his 516 00:27:26,505 --> 00:27:30,365 200 square feet trailer and, 517 00:27:33,065 --> 00:27:34,725 and haul it over. 518 00:27:34,815 --> 00:27:36,085 It'll be multiple halls 519 00:27:38,175 --> 00:27:40,245 until he gives up, I suppose. But 520 00:27:40,895 --> 00:27:41,895 Who's he now, Jay? 521 00:27:42,075 --> 00:27:43,765 Okay. So his name is Manny 522 00:27:44,705 --> 00:27:46,885 and he's, he's my neighbor on 523 00:27:48,885 --> 00:27:52,165 1315 Walnut Hill Road. 524 00:27:52,305 --> 00:27:54,085 So he is doing it just in kind. He, 525 00:27:54,325 --> 00:27:56,725 He has cows and he is a farmer. 526 00:27:57,235 --> 00:27:58,565 He's just doing it as, as 527 00:27:58,565 --> 00:28:01,525 A, just doing it to, because donation, the cows have been 528 00:28:02,105 --> 00:28:04,845 in inside so long, they've been busy this year 529 00:28:04,845 --> 00:28:06,285 that the pile's extra big. 530 00:28:06,905 --> 00:28:09,605 So he's, he's actually given us the manure and hauling it. 531 00:28:09,635 --> 00:28:11,245 He's giving it and hauling it. And 532 00:28:11,465 --> 00:28:13,205 So we, we need to write this gentleman a letter. 533 00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:16,805 Yeah. Beth. And, and thank him please for, for that. 534 00:28:17,585 --> 00:28:19,925 And can we, can we say his name in public? Is that okay? 535 00:28:20,475 --> 00:28:21,645 Sure. What's his name? 536 00:28:22,635 --> 00:28:25,165 It's Manny. Oh boy. 537 00:28:25,165 --> 00:28:28,485 What's his, he's, he's Portuguese. 538 00:28:29,675 --> 00:28:31,525 I'll have to get that last name. Yeah, let's 539 00:28:31,525 --> 00:28:32,685 Make sure that we let the public know 540 00:28:32,685 --> 00:28:36,565 that Manny's hooking us up with some primo manure. 541 00:28:36,565 --> 00:28:39,045 Yeah, Manny and Maria, they have a including 542 00:28:39,345 --> 00:28:40,345 And delivering It. 543 00:28:40,345 --> 00:28:42,085 They have a, a little farm stand 544 00:28:42,105 --> 00:28:44,885 and they have some good produce coming off those 545 00:28:45,905 --> 00:28:47,005 cow feed. Wow, 546 00:28:47,265 --> 00:28:48,265 That's great. 547 00:28:48,265 --> 00:28:48,845 That's, that's awesome. Good. 548 00:28:48,845 --> 00:28:50,605 Jay, that's, that's really good's you. 549 00:28:50,945 --> 00:28:55,485 So when it comes to the fertilizer, the 550 00:28:56,035 --> 00:28:59,045 gardening subcommittee had a, a live 551 00:29:00,395 --> 00:29:02,205 meeting last week, last Monday. 552 00:29:03,145 --> 00:29:04,685 And it was really a good synergy 553 00:29:04,835 --> 00:29:06,525 that was created by meeting together. 554 00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:11,525 And we decided that the fertilizer we would a, 555 00:29:11,665 --> 00:29:15,805 we would ask the commission to try to fund the, 556 00:29:16,545 --> 00:29:20,085 the fertilizer that was commend recommended. 557 00:29:20,545 --> 00:29:24,405 Now I worked off of a soil test I took in the fall 558 00:29:25,465 --> 00:29:30,325 and those recommendations from the soil analysis, I 559 00:29:31,475 --> 00:29:35,325 converted it into the entire 7,200 560 00:29:36,085 --> 00:29:38,565 square feet of the garden plot. 561 00:29:39,305 --> 00:29:42,965 That's 36, 10 by 20 plots. 562 00:29:44,025 --> 00:29:47,845 And I wrote up a analysis, a calculation, 563 00:29:48,025 --> 00:29:51,405 and I also did work on finding 564 00:29:52,665 --> 00:29:55,965 the best products, best price and best analysis. 565 00:29:56,265 --> 00:29:57,765 And I have that to submit 566 00:29:59,835 --> 00:30:01,365 tonight for approval. 567 00:30:03,485 --> 00:30:05,205 I have that up too. So I'll take care of 568 00:30:05,205 --> 00:30:06,445 that motion. Jay, when you're 569 00:30:06,555 --> 00:30:07,555 Okay. 570 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:07,885 When you're done with your report. 571 00:30:09,265 --> 00:30:11,685 So what we're feeling is that this, 572 00:30:12,015 --> 00:30:15,245 based on the soil analysis, the, the soil was really, 573 00:30:15,905 --> 00:30:17,205 it was impoverished. 574 00:30:18,345 --> 00:30:21,005 You could tell it had been really gardened a lot 575 00:30:21,005 --> 00:30:22,725 because there was a lot of phosphorus, 576 00:30:22,855 --> 00:30:24,325 which accumulates year 577 00:30:24,325 --> 00:30:27,525 after year, people putting in various kinds of fertilizers. 578 00:30:27,705 --> 00:30:29,205 But the phosphorus builds up, 579 00:30:29,265 --> 00:30:31,445 but yet the potassium in the, 580 00:30:31,625 --> 00:30:34,965 the nitrogen in the organic matter we're extremely low. 581 00:30:35,745 --> 00:30:37,965 So we really would like to give a nice boost 582 00:30:38,425 --> 00:30:40,285 to this, to this garden. 583 00:30:40,385 --> 00:30:43,085 We can't let it go fallow for a year. 584 00:30:43,265 --> 00:30:44,765 We need to keep working it. 585 00:30:44,825 --> 00:30:47,805 But with manure in these amendments, 586 00:30:47,805 --> 00:30:49,325 these organic amendments, 587 00:30:49,665 --> 00:30:51,925 we think the gardener's gonna have a real quality year. 588 00:30:55,305 --> 00:30:56,305 So that's it. 589 00:30:57,255 --> 00:30:59,645 Thank you Jay. And thank you for 590 00:31:00,585 --> 00:31:01,605 all your hard work on that. 591 00:31:01,605 --> 00:31:03,645 That's, that's, you did a lot of work on that. 592 00:31:05,425 --> 00:31:09,085 So Jay has recommended two types of, 593 00:31:10,505 --> 00:31:15,285 of fertilizer for the, for the gardens. 594 00:31:16,105 --> 00:31:18,405 And he, we did have a conversation before the meeting. 595 00:31:18,505 --> 00:31:20,205 He thinks that this will probably be 596 00:31:20,945 --> 00:31:23,205 not be an annual thing, right Jay? 597 00:31:23,205 --> 00:31:26,245 It's gonna be, we we're probably not 598 00:31:26,245 --> 00:31:27,325 gonna do this again next year. 599 00:31:27,385 --> 00:31:29,125 The, the organic part of it. 600 00:31:29,305 --> 00:31:30,925 The manure, yes. But maybe not the 601 00:31:30,925 --> 00:31:31,925 Manure. 602 00:31:31,925 --> 00:31:35,965 The manure, yes. And we'll do an analysis in the fall, 603 00:31:36,225 --> 00:31:38,565 so we'll determine if there's an improvement. 604 00:31:38,875 --> 00:31:42,525 Okay. And go from there. I'll come back and comment. 605 00:31:42,995 --> 00:31:46,125 Okay. So, so what he's recommending is 606 00:31:46,125 --> 00:31:47,325 that we get two types 607 00:31:47,545 --> 00:31:51,825 of fertilizer. 608 00:31:51,965 --> 00:31:54,745 One is from a company called North County Organics 609 00:31:55,765 --> 00:31:57,865 and another one is from Greenway Biotech. 610 00:31:59,645 --> 00:32:03,905 The one from North Count Country Organics is $376 611 00:32:03,965 --> 00:32:06,465 and 84 cents, including the shipping. 612 00:32:07,525 --> 00:32:11,225 The one from Greenway Biotech is $387 613 00:32:11,325 --> 00:32:12,465 and that includes the shipping. 614 00:32:13,605 --> 00:32:17,865 The total for both of them is $763 and 84 cents. 615 00:32:19,245 --> 00:32:20,505 So if it is the pleasure 616 00:32:20,505 --> 00:32:23,905 of the commission, I'm gonna make a motion. 617 00:32:25,545 --> 00:32:28,105 I trust Jay's diligence on this project 618 00:32:29,325 --> 00:32:30,545 and I'd like to make a motion 619 00:32:30,655 --> 00:32:34,785 that we authorize the treasurer to app. 620 00:32:35,165 --> 00:32:39,065 We authorize the commission approves to spend up to 621 00:32:41,255 --> 00:32:45,165 $780 on 622 00:32:46,105 --> 00:32:50,605 the fertilizer that I just talked about. 623 00:32:52,585 --> 00:32:54,445 And we need a second on that. Second. 624 00:32:55,385 --> 00:32:58,245 So you were first and a second. All those in favor say aye. 625 00:32:58,665 --> 00:33:02,325 Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, that's unanimous. 626 00:33:02,425 --> 00:33:07,275 So, so Jay, you're gonna coordinate with Eileen on getting, 627 00:33:07,425 --> 00:33:09,035 getting that taken care of. 628 00:33:09,035 --> 00:33:13,985 Okay. Okay. Alright. Thank you Jay. Mr. 629 00:33:14,255 --> 00:33:17,465 Metz personnel. Nothing new on personnel 630 00:33:19,725 --> 00:33:21,345 and public outreach, Cheryl? 631 00:33:22,535 --> 00:33:27,185 Well, we had a great meeting a week ago Thursday, 632 00:33:27,565 --> 00:33:31,945 and there have been, there have been a number of really 633 00:33:32,945 --> 00:33:34,305 colorful looking Facebook posts, 634 00:33:34,325 --> 00:33:36,905 the last one being the Earth Day cleanup. 635 00:33:37,045 --> 00:33:41,425 And Eileen was at Coffee Factory passing out gloves 636 00:33:41,605 --> 00:33:42,625 and plastic bags. 637 00:33:42,645 --> 00:33:44,465 So that was a really nice presence there. 638 00:33:45,645 --> 00:33:49,065 We did get some good events on the calendar. 639 00:33:50,485 --> 00:33:52,105 Of course, she was there on the 18th. 640 00:33:53,095 --> 00:33:56,385 Beth is working on the Wildfire Community Preparedness 641 00:33:56,645 --> 00:34:00,945 for May 2nd, June 27th, the BioBlitz day. 642 00:34:01,175 --> 00:34:03,625 Another thing that Beth is very involved in, 643 00:34:03,685 --> 00:34:06,345 and the idea is that we come alongside that 644 00:34:06,445 --> 00:34:09,225 and document that and make the public aware of that 645 00:34:09,225 --> 00:34:10,745 through our social media and things. 646 00:34:11,135 --> 00:34:13,825 Another exciting one that came up is that we are going 647 00:34:13,825 --> 00:34:15,065 to be at the dairy farmer's market. 648 00:34:16,195 --> 00:34:19,585 There is a, we grow Wednesday in August 649 00:34:19,725 --> 00:34:21,305 and I'm actually a vendor at the market, 650 00:34:21,405 --> 00:34:24,745 but I will be doing, putting on a different hat 651 00:34:24,745 --> 00:34:25,745 for the commission that day. 652 00:34:25,765 --> 00:34:28,585 And I think a couple of the others will, will join me. 653 00:34:28,845 --> 00:34:31,785 And the idea is to just like, has it have it as it's, 654 00:34:31,785 --> 00:34:34,905 we're gonna be in the communitarian booth that day. 655 00:34:35,625 --> 00:34:37,745 I think I did hear from the vendor committee 656 00:34:37,745 --> 00:34:40,625 that we could do another week if we wanted to as well. 657 00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:42,865 So we'll talk about that at our next meeting. 658 00:34:42,925 --> 00:34:45,905 But we definitely bookmarked August 12th 659 00:34:47,405 --> 00:34:50,025 and I submitted an application for us as vendors. 660 00:34:50,095 --> 00:34:53,345 That will be like a small fee. I think it's $25 for the day. 661 00:34:53,365 --> 00:34:55,465 Or is it for Communitarians? It's free. 662 00:34:55,605 --> 00:34:57,145 Oh, free for communitarian. That's right. 663 00:34:58,085 --> 00:34:59,185 So that will be coming up 664 00:34:59,185 --> 00:35:01,305 and the idea is to, to bring promotional materials, 665 00:35:01,305 --> 00:35:05,265 maybe having some kind of like IDing plants, a hands-on 666 00:35:05,325 --> 00:35:07,025 for kids that are coming to the market 667 00:35:08,965 --> 00:35:10,345 or an a t-shirt raffle, 668 00:35:10,345 --> 00:35:12,745 just like make it a really fun experiential 669 00:35:12,805 --> 00:35:14,225 but also promotional material. 670 00:35:14,325 --> 00:35:16,305 So we're very excited to being at the farmer's market. 671 00:35:16,305 --> 00:35:20,745 Linda and I will be there anyway and yeah, so that, 672 00:35:20,805 --> 00:35:23,225 and we'll be meeting again I think this Thursday. 673 00:35:23,225 --> 00:35:24,665 So we're just gonna keep that moving forward. 674 00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:28,665 That's great. Thank you Cheryl. 675 00:35:29,505 --> 00:35:32,345 I, I like the, the energy and the enthusiasm. 676 00:35:32,445 --> 00:35:36,745 That's fantastic. Mr. Metz. TRC. We had 677 00:35:36,745 --> 00:35:38,285 One TRC this past Friday. 678 00:35:39,515 --> 00:35:41,845 They, it's a two lot subdivision, 679 00:35:42,505 --> 00:35:47,085 but it does have significant wetland impact on it. 680 00:35:47,225 --> 00:35:50,725 So they're gonna hopefully schedule to be, we, 681 00:35:50,725 --> 00:35:51,805 we gave 'em the date, right Beth? 682 00:35:52,825 --> 00:35:56,125 We Did had to by to be for the fourth. So May 4th. 683 00:35:56,125 --> 00:35:58,165 Hopefully fourth, yeah. And it was Brandon again. So it's, 684 00:35:58,485 --> 00:35:59,485 What, what's the address? 685 00:35:59,625 --> 00:36:00,625 Do you know? Remember? 686 00:36:01,755 --> 00:36:04,365 Yeah, it's Furland Drive. Oh, Furland, okay, got 687 00:36:04,365 --> 00:36:05,365 It. 688 00:36:05,365 --> 00:36:08,805 That's part of the Shields Brook. Yep. 689 00:36:08,805 --> 00:36:10,125 Wetlands on that side. Okay, got it. 690 00:36:10,125 --> 00:36:12,605 Yeah, so it's, it's only two lot. 691 00:36:12,635 --> 00:36:16,005 It's two lots, but since it's a wetland impact then it, 692 00:36:16,025 --> 00:36:17,085 it has to come before us. 693 00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:19,005 And that's coming, that's gonna come May 4th 694 00:36:19,245 --> 00:36:20,245 I think. 695 00:36:20,245 --> 00:36:21,405 May 4th If he's, if he got it, yeah, 696 00:36:21,425 --> 00:36:23,325 He hasn't sent in about it yet, 697 00:36:23,345 --> 00:36:25,765 but we did talk about that at the TRC. Yeah. 698 00:36:26,115 --> 00:36:27,565 Okay. Other than that, that's it. 699 00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:32,285 Alright. Thank you Mr. Metz. Property management. 700 00:36:32,425 --> 00:36:35,685 We, we did get a communication from a gentleman by the name 701 00:36:36,065 --> 00:36:38,085 of Mr. 702 00:36:38,475 --> 00:36:40,005 Fong. Kby Fong. 703 00:36:42,145 --> 00:36:46,805 And he is with an organization called Eco Ecological Land 704 00:36:47,575 --> 00:36:50,365 Management and Stewardship, LLC. 705 00:36:52,665 --> 00:36:56,725 And this, this is a, this is a, an organization that kind of 706 00:36:57,825 --> 00:36:59,525 is something we've been looking for for a long time. 707 00:36:59,525 --> 00:37:01,365 They basically provide support services 708 00:37:01,505 --> 00:37:04,805 to conservation commissions in the form of mowing and, 709 00:37:04,825 --> 00:37:07,045 and you know, stuff that we kind 710 00:37:07,045 --> 00:37:10,165 of have always had a little trouble securing. 711 00:37:10,995 --> 00:37:14,685 They, they kind of offer it, offer a, a menu 712 00:37:14,785 --> 00:37:17,445 of different services to conservation commissions. 713 00:37:19,105 --> 00:37:23,645 So we corresponded actually, I, I sent it to Beth, 714 00:37:23,645 --> 00:37:28,445 Beth corresponded back to them saying that as, as projects, 715 00:37:28,835 --> 00:37:32,085 they do forestry, they do aous stuff, they do, you know, 716 00:37:32,715 --> 00:37:34,245 even trail maintenance I believe, right? 717 00:37:34,795 --> 00:37:36,765 Yeah. Trail maintenance. They do, they do it all. 718 00:37:39,445 --> 00:37:40,585 And for us, you know, it's, 719 00:37:40,645 --> 00:37:42,145 you can't always get volunteers to do stuff. 720 00:37:42,165 --> 00:37:44,105 So we're gonna, we're gonna be reaching out to them 721 00:37:44,245 --> 00:37:46,225 as projects come up that we can handle. 722 00:37:47,865 --> 00:37:50,025 I think it's a, it's a great business venture 723 00:37:50,025 --> 00:37:51,265 because it's, I'm sure 724 00:37:51,265 --> 00:37:53,465 that most conservation commissions are in the same position 725 00:37:53,465 --> 00:37:55,945 that we are with, you know, having, 726 00:37:55,945 --> 00:37:57,465 having needs for that stuff. 727 00:37:57,565 --> 00:38:01,265 So Beth Replied said, thanks so much. 728 00:38:01,795 --> 00:38:03,025 We'll we'll be reaching out 729 00:38:03,025 --> 00:38:04,785 to you in the future if we, if we need your service. 730 00:38:05,005 --> 00:38:06,545 So that was, that was cool. 731 00:38:06,545 --> 00:38:10,825 And it'd be nice to have a backup like that when, when we, 732 00:38:11,025 --> 00:38:13,065 we have a list of projects to take care of and, 733 00:38:13,165 --> 00:38:16,025 and have a professional organization be able to do it. 734 00:38:19,105 --> 00:38:21,325 And other property management stuff. 735 00:38:22,135 --> 00:38:23,605 We'll have, we'll leave it to Beth, 736 00:38:23,605 --> 00:38:25,405 but we have some tree work happening. 737 00:38:26,315 --> 00:38:28,885 Kind of an interesting new piece of equipment. 738 00:38:29,225 --> 00:38:32,685 One of the, one of the people that 739 00:38:32,965 --> 00:38:34,485 provided a price on a, on a, 740 00:38:34,625 --> 00:38:36,405 on a tree removal, it's called a spider. 741 00:38:36,465 --> 00:38:41,165 Spider, right? It's kind of a low impact machine 742 00:38:41,755 --> 00:38:43,645 that can get in really tight quarters 743 00:38:45,615 --> 00:38:48,155 and it's more economical than bringing in a big crane. 744 00:38:48,695 --> 00:38:51,315 And it's kind of like, almost like when a guy climbs a tree 745 00:38:51,415 --> 00:38:52,675 for hazardous take down. 746 00:38:52,675 --> 00:38:54,235 So it's kind of like a climber, 747 00:38:54,255 --> 00:38:57,075 but it has a little bit more ability. 748 00:38:57,215 --> 00:39:00,795 And Beth will go over those, those proposals at her. 749 00:39:02,575 --> 00:39:04,955 And then the other thing I'll just touch upon is we have a, 750 00:39:04,975 --> 00:39:09,415 we had a problem with the Margie 751 00:39:09,565 --> 00:39:10,815 Ives conservation property. 752 00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:15,455 The sign there got pushed on a little bit from, 753 00:39:15,685 --> 00:39:17,975 from, and I'm not even sure if that happened all this year, 754 00:39:17,975 --> 00:39:20,215 but there the, there was some snow pushed against it 755 00:39:20,715 --> 00:39:23,255 and it's leaning over and we talked 756 00:39:23,255 --> 00:39:24,375 to the town administrator 757 00:39:24,595 --> 00:39:28,495 and there's some funds available to, to help fix that up. 758 00:39:28,595 --> 00:39:30,135 And I think BET will probably touch upon 759 00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:31,455 that in her report also. 760 00:39:32,435 --> 00:39:35,335 So that's what we're doing on property ma management. 761 00:39:35,885 --> 00:39:38,655 Next is Bob Spro at Land Maintenance. 762 00:39:41,155 --> 00:39:43,135 So we did have one more meeting 763 00:39:43,235 --> 00:39:45,855 and we've got one scheduled for the 14th 764 00:39:46,525 --> 00:39:49,695 talking about stewardship, the file that the people, 765 00:39:50,115 --> 00:39:51,215 the stewards would get. 766 00:39:53,685 --> 00:39:55,035 Other than that, I haven't got anything. 767 00:39:55,865 --> 00:39:59,155 Okay, thanks. Pope Lee acquisition. 768 00:39:59,215 --> 00:40:02,195 Has anyone walked that, don't say the name of the property, 769 00:40:02,195 --> 00:40:03,755 but is has anyone walked that property 770 00:40:03,755 --> 00:40:05,515 that we were considering pursuing? 771 00:40:07,275 --> 00:40:10,015 No. Alright, so I think it's been kind of too long. 772 00:40:10,235 --> 00:40:12,575 So if I'm gonna ask for a a, 773 00:40:14,765 --> 00:40:15,785 I'm gonna ask for a motion, 774 00:40:18,475 --> 00:40:19,985 maybe we should do that non-public. 775 00:40:25,875 --> 00:40:26,895 No, I don't think we have to. 776 00:40:27,175 --> 00:40:29,455 I think we can have a motion without talking about 777 00:40:29,455 --> 00:40:33,135 what the property is to pursue next steps. 778 00:40:34,235 --> 00:40:37,975 How do you feel about that? No. Okay. Alright. 779 00:40:37,975 --> 00:40:40,375 So we'll, so we'll we're gonna have a quick non-public 780 00:40:40,375 --> 00:40:43,715 after this meeting and 781 00:40:45,635 --> 00:40:47,035 other land acquisitions. 782 00:40:47,035 --> 00:40:49,195 There's three projects that we're, we're pursuing. 783 00:40:49,905 --> 00:40:52,555 Nothing has moved forward on any of the three. 784 00:40:53,215 --> 00:40:55,675 And then when we in, in non-public, we'll talk about maybe 785 00:40:56,545 --> 00:40:59,195 pushing on one of the three a little bit higher 786 00:41:02,345 --> 00:41:03,635 reporting compliance, well 787 00:41:04,435 --> 00:41:06,555 Nothing new to actually report on reporting compliance. 788 00:41:07,025 --> 00:41:08,475 Okay. And you're also on net zero? 789 00:41:09,215 --> 00:41:12,675 Yes. Net zero. We did have that meeting. Lemme pull up. 790 00:41:13,575 --> 00:41:17,015 I thought I had it ready. So they are 791 00:41:17,945 --> 00:41:20,215 continuing watching legislation that project 792 00:41:20,215 --> 00:41:24,775 that they had me do some educational kind of brochure 793 00:41:24,835 --> 00:41:26,735 for people in terms of international energy 794 00:41:27,375 --> 00:41:29,015 conservation codes. 795 00:41:29,745 --> 00:41:31,815 Basic yeah efficiency codes and stuff. 796 00:41:32,055 --> 00:41:34,565 The state was looking to push them up to 2024 797 00:41:34,785 --> 00:41:37,005 as like required for new builds. 798 00:41:37,005 --> 00:41:39,965 However, it kind of fell back again. So we're still in 2018. 799 00:41:40,685 --> 00:41:42,965 So that's something that they've been kind 800 00:41:42,965 --> 00:41:45,005 of keeping on their docket to outreach to the public 801 00:41:46,085 --> 00:41:49,685 hearing back on things for contracts for, you know, 802 00:41:49,745 --> 00:41:51,805 the new parking garage, things like that. 803 00:41:52,365 --> 00:41:54,845 Metering getting done at the solar field. 804 00:41:55,225 --> 00:41:57,365 And they're getting some feedback too about the hybrids 805 00:41:57,365 --> 00:41:59,285 and EVs that the town has had to kind of see 806 00:41:59,285 --> 00:42:01,845 and recommend that more for the town to transition. 807 00:42:04,225 --> 00:42:06,205 And yeah, I think that about covers it. Quick rundown. 808 00:42:06,895 --> 00:42:11,685 Great. Thank you Val, this councilor foot, 809 00:42:12,045 --> 00:42:14,525 anything from the, from the council? 810 00:42:14,535 --> 00:42:17,165 You'd like to talk about town? Town related stuff? 811 00:42:17,485 --> 00:42:18,725 Yeah, real quick Mr. Chair. Thank you. 812 00:42:19,865 --> 00:42:22,325 So at last meeting you had asked about more 813 00:42:22,325 --> 00:42:23,405 funds for the conservation. 814 00:42:23,565 --> 00:42:26,085 I did reach out to you and the vice chair, so 815 00:42:26,265 --> 00:42:28,925 For rest and, and you and you hit a home run. Yeah. Yeah. 816 00:42:28,925 --> 00:42:32,245 Thanks. So just for the rest of the committee, I, 817 00:42:32,325 --> 00:42:33,645 I did speak with the town administrator 818 00:42:33,785 --> 00:42:35,485 and we're gonna propose this year 819 00:42:36,195 --> 00:42:40,005 roughly $12,800 in addition to the 5,000 you normally get. 820 00:42:40,105 --> 00:42:41,525 That's only gonna be for three years. 821 00:42:42,025 --> 00:42:43,165 And then that will go away 822 00:42:43,165 --> 00:42:45,405 and it'll just be resort back to the regular 5,000. 823 00:42:45,945 --> 00:42:48,325 So this year potentially you get close 824 00:42:48,325 --> 00:42:50,085 to 18,000 for the next three years. 825 00:42:52,165 --> 00:42:53,325 Tomorrow we have a public hearing 826 00:42:54,145 --> 00:42:55,685 and that's to accept the easement 827 00:42:55,685 --> 00:42:58,285 for the Ashley Drive SCOBY Pond Road area 828 00:42:59,025 --> 00:43:03,365 and also there'll be new business for the acceptance 829 00:43:03,365 --> 00:43:06,405 of the Broadview farm agreement that you guys are aware of. 830 00:43:07,345 --> 00:43:08,365 Is, is everyone aware 831 00:43:08,365 --> 00:43:10,525 of the Broad Broadview farm agreement? 832 00:43:11,625 --> 00:43:13,135 Sorry to interrupt you. Council foot? 833 00:43:13,915 --> 00:43:15,975 No. Is that like the renewal of the easement? 834 00:43:16,475 --> 00:43:19,615 So no, the Broadview farm, we've had this handshake deal 835 00:43:19,645 --> 00:43:22,935 with the guy that Oh, that farming it, 836 00:43:22,935 --> 00:43:24,655 that farms Broadview farm. 837 00:43:25,075 --> 00:43:26,135 The cornfield in the back. 838 00:43:26,135 --> 00:43:28,495 Yeah, I don't, I don't love handshake deals. 839 00:43:28,555 --> 00:43:31,655 So we've, we, we actually have a contract. 840 00:43:32,065 --> 00:43:36,095 We're, we're executing a contract with the numerical value. 841 00:43:38,675 --> 00:43:42,455 It is that he is to provide 842 00:43:43,115 --> 00:43:46,935 either $750 in, in kind 843 00:43:47,775 --> 00:43:48,815 services to the town. 844 00:43:49,515 --> 00:43:50,855 And if he's unable to do that, 845 00:43:50,965 --> 00:43:52,615 he's gonna write the town a check 846 00:43:52,635 --> 00:43:56,135 for $750 if he doesn't have time to do in kind services. 847 00:43:57,755 --> 00:43:59,335 As far as long as I've been on the commission, 848 00:44:00,645 --> 00:44:05,055 it's been a handshake with Phil and Margie 849 00:44:05,055 --> 00:44:06,815 and Paul Dion and, and even James. 850 00:44:08,605 --> 00:44:10,015 It's just kind of been an understanding. 851 00:44:10,215 --> 00:44:13,455 I, and we, at least while I'm chair I want to get rid 852 00:44:13,455 --> 00:44:14,655 of anything, anything like that. 853 00:44:15,095 --> 00:44:16,775 I, I'd like to see everything papered up 854 00:44:16,795 --> 00:44:20,055 and make it a little cleaner for the person 855 00:44:20,095 --> 00:44:21,255 that sits in my chair later. 856 00:44:21,795 --> 00:44:25,455 So we, we talked to the town administrator about that 857 00:44:25,455 --> 00:44:26,935 and he's got it on Charlie's agenda 858 00:44:27,115 --> 00:44:29,255 for tomorrow to be approved. 859 00:44:29,475 --> 00:44:31,245 So thank you Charlie, continue. Sorry. So 860 00:44:31,245 --> 00:44:32,245 That, that's it. 861 00:44:32,245 --> 00:44:34,525 And that would basically erase any ambiguity moving forward 862 00:44:34,785 --> 00:44:38,165 and it's, it is what it's, so regardless who the people are, 863 00:44:38,345 --> 00:44:40,725 it will always be something there in, in writing. So 864 00:44:40,755 --> 00:44:42,005 Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's 865 00:44:42,005 --> 00:44:43,005 Good. 866 00:44:43,585 --> 00:44:46,005 If he doesn't provide in kind, does that money come to us 867 00:44:46,185 --> 00:44:47,765 or does it go to the general fund? 868 00:44:49,545 --> 00:44:51,805 Not sure. I, I know we did the contract here, 869 00:44:51,885 --> 00:44:53,325 I can't remember what that, what the 870 00:44:53,325 --> 00:44:54,485 stipulation was in the contract. 871 00:44:54,865 --> 00:44:56,565 I'm not a hundred percent sure. Okay. I was look into it. 872 00:44:57,265 --> 00:44:59,405 It Doesn't specify in the contract. 873 00:45:00,065 --> 00:45:02,085 It does not. Okay. Alright. 874 00:45:02,105 --> 00:45:04,325 So there's a little homework then How about, 875 00:45:04,345 --> 00:45:05,765 how about, sorry Rick. No, 876 00:45:05,765 --> 00:45:06,245 Go ahead. Go 877 00:45:06,245 --> 00:45:07,245 Ahead. 878 00:45:07,245 --> 00:45:07,565 How about, how about a communication 879 00:45:07,565 --> 00:45:10,125 to the town administrator that when he presents it 880 00:45:10,125 --> 00:45:11,685 to you guys tomorrow night, that the, 881 00:45:12,225 --> 00:45:14,325 if there is funds exchanged, if 882 00:45:14,325 --> 00:45:15,765 that those funds go into the, 883 00:45:21,285 --> 00:45:22,945 We, we probably need to, we probably need to have a, 884 00:45:23,045 --> 00:45:25,865 we probably need to have a a we, so what I suggest 885 00:45:27,965 --> 00:45:32,145 is a motion that that $750 if it comes 886 00:45:32,145 --> 00:45:36,065 to us in the form of payment, then it goes 887 00:45:36,405 --> 00:45:38,945 to us in the land acquisition account. 888 00:45:40,765 --> 00:45:43,225 And the reason for that is the land acquisition account 889 00:45:45,535 --> 00:45:47,065 carries over year to year. 890 00:45:47,605 --> 00:45:49,065 The administrative account does not. 891 00:45:49,085 --> 00:45:52,065 So the administrative account, we spend it, 892 00:45:52,245 --> 00:45:54,505 what's not spent goes into the general fund 893 00:45:54,765 --> 00:45:57,025 and then we get a new administrative account 894 00:45:57,025 --> 00:45:58,145 balance for the following year. 895 00:45:58,685 --> 00:46:01,185 The land acquisition account, that money stays 896 00:46:01,185 --> 00:46:04,785 with the commission and just renews at the same rate. 897 00:46:05,085 --> 00:46:09,455 So I think a motion 898 00:46:11,075 --> 00:46:15,695 to have a council liaison 899 00:46:16,775 --> 00:46:18,135 communicate with the town administrator 900 00:46:19,425 --> 00:46:22,955 that those funds come to that land 901 00:46:23,785 --> 00:46:24,875 acquisition account. 902 00:46:25,205 --> 00:46:26,955 Would someone consider making that motion 903 00:46:28,345 --> 00:46:30,835 Move to direct town council to negotiate 904 00:46:30,835 --> 00:46:34,995 with the town administrator that the funds if 905 00:46:35,565 --> 00:46:38,315 can't be, if if the seven 50 can't be given in like, 906 00:46:38,415 --> 00:46:40,715 in like kind and Ocean, that 907 00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:44,395 that $750 in funds goes into the conservation commission. 908 00:46:44,425 --> 00:46:46,075 Land man. Land management fund. 909 00:46:47,105 --> 00:46:49,875 Land acquisition fund, Sorry. Land acquisition fund. 910 00:46:50,025 --> 00:46:51,435 Alright, so is the first and the floor 911 00:46:51,435 --> 00:46:52,555 is there a second? Second. 912 00:46:52,575 --> 00:46:54,835 Second. We have a second and a third. 913 00:46:54,835 --> 00:46:57,595 All is in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? 914 00:46:59,385 --> 00:47:00,755 Charlie can you do that? Thank you. 915 00:47:00,865 --> 00:47:02,435 I'll send an email right now. Thanks very 916 00:47:02,435 --> 00:47:03,435 Much. 917 00:47:03,435 --> 00:47:03,675 He, he answered the question. 918 00:47:04,055 --> 00:47:05,875 So that extra money we're getting, 919 00:47:05,895 --> 00:47:08,875 if we don't spend it, we lose it. Is that 920 00:47:08,875 --> 00:47:09,875 Correct? 921 00:47:09,875 --> 00:47:10,635 On the admin money? Yes. 922 00:47:13,025 --> 00:47:15,035 Okay. Spend it. Huh? Spend it. 923 00:47:15,695 --> 00:47:17,475 I'm, I'm not that kind of person. 924 00:47:17,625 --> 00:47:19,675 Just yeah, spend money just 'cause we have it. No, 925 00:47:20,055 --> 00:47:21,035 We could have A help of a party, 926 00:47:21,055 --> 00:47:21,955 but that would be inappropriate. 927 00:47:22,005 --> 00:47:23,715 We're sure you'll have some good projects. 928 00:47:24,215 --> 00:47:28,475 So Beth and I discussed a, a potential purpose 929 00:47:29,415 --> 00:47:31,365 since we don't even newer from them, 930 00:47:31,535 --> 00:47:33,805 which would be a in kind service. 931 00:47:34,755 --> 00:47:37,005 They have plenty of that, but we are all set for that. 932 00:47:37,785 --> 00:47:39,645 We were thinking that adding straw 933 00:47:39,785 --> 00:47:42,725 to the gardens is something that's very vital. 934 00:47:43,425 --> 00:47:44,805 Is there any Yeah. 935 00:47:44,805 --> 00:47:46,805 Change in that conversation that we had today. 936 00:47:46,845 --> 00:47:48,325 I did speak with him today about that 937 00:47:48,585 --> 00:47:51,725 and he said that he'd be willing to, 938 00:47:51,945 --> 00:47:54,125 he doesn't grow, he doesn't have straw. 939 00:47:54,125 --> 00:47:55,765 Like he doesn't grow straw, he grows hay, 940 00:47:57,025 --> 00:47:59,605 but he would be willing to buy the straw 941 00:47:59,985 --> 00:48:02,685 and, you know, deliver it and stack it for us. 942 00:48:04,285 --> 00:48:07,805 Provided he said with an asterisk that it's available. 943 00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:10,085 So he said that it is possible 944 00:48:10,085 --> 00:48:11,925 that it's not available at this time, 945 00:48:12,745 --> 00:48:15,565 but if it is, then, then he would purchase it and, 946 00:48:15,745 --> 00:48:17,045 and, and deliver it. 947 00:48:19,795 --> 00:48:22,685 Okay. So as, as far as spending the admin money 948 00:48:23,205 --> 00:48:25,525 after the, we had a, we had a 949 00:48:27,065 --> 00:48:31,845 budget set aside through a forestry fund that pays 950 00:48:33,175 --> 00:48:35,645 Tammy and Beth, 951 00:48:37,035 --> 00:48:38,925 that fund is gonna be exhausted this year. 952 00:48:39,825 --> 00:48:43,925 So next year we'll be using the admin fund to, 953 00:48:43,985 --> 00:48:45,765 to pay the two staffers that we have 954 00:48:45,825 --> 00:48:47,125 so it will get expended. 955 00:48:47,845 --> 00:48:48,885 'cause we'll expend that first 956 00:48:48,905 --> 00:48:52,125 and then go into the land acquisition fund after that. 957 00:48:53,525 --> 00:48:55,325 And as far as the straw, are you saying that, 958 00:48:55,675 --> 00:48:57,085 that Phil doesn't have straw? 959 00:48:58,265 --> 00:49:00,725 So the where, where, I'm Sorry. Fernando Farm. 960 00:49:00,755 --> 00:49:02,165 Yeah, the Fernando farm. 961 00:49:03,075 --> 00:49:04,325 They, they may 962 00:49:04,345 --> 00:49:07,085 or may not have straw available. Yeah, basically. 963 00:49:07,085 --> 00:49:09,205 Got it. Okay. And it's 964 00:49:09,205 --> 00:49:10,485 definitely gotta be straw, right Jay? 965 00:49:10,485 --> 00:49:12,405 We don't want, we want straw because Right. Hey has 966 00:49:12,665 --> 00:49:13,665 All kinds Of seeds in it. 967 00:49:13,665 --> 00:49:17,205 Seats. Seats. Okay. Got it. Alright, thank you Charlie. 968 00:49:17,575 --> 00:49:21,165 Thank you. Next we have Beth with the land manager report. 969 00:49:21,785 --> 00:49:23,885 All right. A lot of it has been covered already, 970 00:49:24,105 --> 00:49:26,765 but so with the community garden, 971 00:49:27,065 --> 00:49:31,005 all 36 plots have been claimed, including the raised beds 972 00:49:31,025 --> 00:49:35,925 for 37 and we have 30 individuals involved 973 00:49:35,925 --> 00:49:37,005 with the community gardens. 974 00:49:38,785 --> 00:49:40,085 And an email went out 975 00:49:40,085 --> 00:49:42,885 to those gardeners today we thought So we have 976 00:49:43,165 --> 00:49:44,245 actually some new gardeners. 977 00:49:44,545 --> 00:49:47,365 So we thought they would appreciate just an update on like 978 00:49:48,065 --> 00:49:51,605 here's how the community garden works and, 979 00:49:51,885 --> 00:49:54,005 'cause we were getting kind of some questions about that. 980 00:49:54,145 --> 00:49:56,805 So we just sent them all a communication. 981 00:49:57,135 --> 00:50:01,125 Today I connected 982 00:50:02,055 --> 00:50:06,925 dairy cam with the Weatherby family, if any 983 00:50:06,925 --> 00:50:09,165 of you know, Neil and Wendy 984 00:50:09,425 --> 00:50:12,365 and Aurora Weatherby, they are big fans of coal marsh. 985 00:50:12,365 --> 00:50:17,165 They're there often. And in a previous meeting 986 00:50:17,515 --> 00:50:19,405 with Dairy Cam that Rick 987 00:50:19,405 --> 00:50:23,005 and I had, we discussed doing like a guided tour, 988 00:50:23,955 --> 00:50:26,725 like a film filming, a guided tour of coal marsh. 989 00:50:27,145 --> 00:50:29,685 And so we asked 990 00:50:30,425 --> 00:50:32,285 the weather bees if they would be interested in 991 00:50:32,285 --> 00:50:33,605 that in Aurora, raise her hand 992 00:50:33,605 --> 00:50:35,405 and said that yes, she would love to do that. 993 00:50:35,625 --> 00:50:37,165 So that is in the works. 994 00:50:37,505 --> 00:50:38,885 And she's the land steward at, 995 00:50:38,945 --> 00:50:40,485 And she's the land steward at Coal Marsh. 996 00:50:40,545 --> 00:50:44,285 Yep. Yep. And let's see. 997 00:50:45,745 --> 00:50:49,565 So in addition to the farmer's market, as 998 00:50:49,825 --> 00:50:53,165 for public outreach, Marion Garish just put out a request 999 00:50:53,305 --> 00:50:56,085 for community groups to participate in what's the scoop? 1000 00:50:56,665 --> 00:51:00,725 And that's on Monday, May 18th from six to seven 30. 1001 00:51:00,985 --> 00:51:03,405 So for those who don't know, what, what's the scoop is, 1002 00:51:04,195 --> 00:51:06,925 it's basically, it's a community event 1003 00:51:06,925 --> 00:51:09,925 where you come get ice cream at Marion Garris. 1004 00:51:09,925 --> 00:51:13,205 So they give out ice cream to attract all the kids there. 1005 00:51:13,425 --> 00:51:18,405 And it is a place where if you are looking to volunteer, 1006 00:51:19,515 --> 00:51:20,525 this is where you go 1007 00:51:20,525 --> 00:51:24,805 because you, you will find all of the community groups. 1008 00:51:24,825 --> 00:51:27,845 The idea is to get all of the groups in our community 1009 00:51:27,845 --> 00:51:30,805 that are doing volunteer work together in one place so 1010 00:51:30,805 --> 00:51:32,925 that you can just walk around to everybody's table 1011 00:51:33,145 --> 00:51:35,725 and see what's the scoop around town. 1012 00:51:39,205 --> 00:51:40,565 I did mention this at our last meeting, 1013 00:51:40,625 --> 00:51:44,525 but we have confirmed the date of June 27th for the 1014 00:51:45,505 --> 00:51:47,005 bio blitz at Broadview. 1015 00:51:47,705 --> 00:51:51,805 We also are going to be having an online training for 1016 00:51:52,935 --> 00:51:56,565 where a member of Moose Wood Ecological is going to come 1017 00:51:56,825 --> 00:52:01,525 and train us all on how to use iNaturalist, which is 1018 00:52:01,525 --> 00:52:04,725 what we'll be using to, to do the BioBlitz. 1019 00:52:04,985 --> 00:52:08,005 So that's gonna be June 1st during our meeting 1020 00:52:08,345 --> 00:52:09,525 and it'll be televised. 1021 00:52:09,745 --> 00:52:12,285 So if there, and members of the public are also welcome 1022 00:52:12,745 --> 00:52:13,805 to come to this as well. 1023 00:52:16,025 --> 00:52:18,685 And it will be, it will be recorded. 1024 00:52:18,905 --> 00:52:20,845 So we'll have this training in 1025 00:52:20,845 --> 00:52:22,285 perpetuity, which will be great. 1026 00:52:25,225 --> 00:52:28,085 The CWPP is progressing. 1027 00:52:29,065 --> 00:52:31,525 We are very, very close to wrapping it up. 1028 00:52:32,225 --> 00:52:35,365 We were trying to hit, you know, before April vacation, 1029 00:52:35,425 --> 00:52:37,645 but we'll be, 1030 00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:39,965 we're looking at more like early May to wrap it up. 1031 00:52:39,965 --> 00:52:41,365 But we're very, very close on that. 1032 00:52:43,185 --> 00:52:45,725 And I want to just right now, thank you Beth for 1033 00:52:46,545 --> 00:52:49,925 the amount of work that went into that CWPP from 1034 00:52:50,255 --> 00:52:51,255 Thank you. 1035 00:52:51,255 --> 00:52:52,965 Yeah, that was, and thank you Val. Incredible. 1036 00:52:53,035 --> 00:52:54,565 Yeah, incredible amount of work went into that. 1037 00:52:54,565 --> 00:52:57,285 And I think we're, we're probably gonna be one 1038 00:52:57,285 --> 00:52:58,565 of the first communities in 1039 00:52:58,565 --> 00:53:00,405 New Hampshire to actually have one, right? Gonna 1040 00:53:00,405 --> 00:53:01,405 Be the first, second I think second. 1041 00:53:01,405 --> 00:53:02,245 I think the second Heer is the first 1042 00:53:02,545 --> 00:53:03,645 and dairy is the second. 1043 00:53:03,795 --> 00:53:06,525 Yeah. So, and yeah, I, on that note, 1044 00:53:06,685 --> 00:53:10,685 I wanna give a huge amount of thanks to Val and Jack Webb 1045 00:53:10,685 --> 00:53:12,365 and Ryan Bump and John Neely. 1046 00:53:12,365 --> 00:53:14,925 They've all done incredible work on this. Chief, 1047 00:53:15,055 --> 00:53:17,205 Chief LA Chief Laro. Yes. 1048 00:53:17,355 --> 00:53:19,885 Yeah, Yeah, yeah. So that's a big, big project. 1049 00:53:20,965 --> 00:53:24,925 I think that'll be, you know, that'll be tremendous. 1050 00:53:25,025 --> 00:53:27,605 And I'm sure we're gonna get contacted by other communities 1051 00:53:28,545 --> 00:53:30,565 as soon as it's, it's rolled out. 1052 00:53:30,675 --> 00:53:33,085 Yeah. On, you know, how can, how can we do that? So 1053 00:53:33,315 --> 00:53:36,005 John wants to hire Val to, to do more towns. 1054 00:53:36,205 --> 00:53:39,325 Yeah. Okay. 1055 00:53:39,945 --> 00:53:42,365 And we'll come back to that. 1056 00:53:43,065 --> 00:53:46,045 And then the Margaret Ives sign was mentioned. 1057 00:53:46,285 --> 00:53:47,685 I just wanted to let everybody know 1058 00:53:47,685 --> 00:53:52,365 that we did file a report with the DPD just to let them know 1059 00:53:52,365 --> 00:53:53,925 that the sign had been damaged so 1060 00:53:53,925 --> 00:53:55,405 that there's a report on record if 1061 00:53:55,405 --> 00:53:56,645 something like that happens again. 1062 00:53:57,025 --> 00:54:01,125 And we're going to communicate with public works just 1063 00:54:01,125 --> 00:54:04,165 to make sure that it's not public works doing that, 1064 00:54:05,265 --> 00:54:07,605 you know, pushing the snow in that direction anyway 1065 00:54:08,265 --> 00:54:09,845 and monitor it over the winter. 1066 00:54:10,585 --> 00:54:14,725 So we are all set to move forward with plans on 1067 00:54:15,275 --> 00:54:17,605 replacing or fixing up that sign. 1068 00:54:17,865 --> 00:54:19,125 And that is the event 1069 00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:22,205 that the land maintenance committee has planned for July. 1070 00:54:22,625 --> 00:54:23,645 So that'll be exciting. 1071 00:54:25,625 --> 00:54:28,725 And then the Broadview lease will be up at the town council 1072 00:54:29,465 --> 00:54:31,445 for a vote tomorrow night. 1073 00:54:32,185 --> 00:54:34,085 And then I have a couple of items 1074 00:54:34,315 --> 00:54:36,365 that you all need a vote on. 1075 00:54:37,025 --> 00:54:39,485 So one is to go back 1076 00:54:39,485 --> 00:54:41,845 to our discussion on dog fouling, right? 1077 00:54:42,745 --> 00:54:46,405 So there actually is an RSA that is on the books already. 1078 00:54:46,465 --> 00:54:48,405 We don't have a town ordinance on it, 1079 00:54:48,505 --> 00:54:53,205 but there is an RSA 4 66 31 B. 1080 00:54:53,785 --> 00:54:56,405 And I went 1081 00:54:56,825 --> 00:55:00,525 to McGregor Park today to take some photos of signs 1082 00:55:00,555 --> 00:55:03,885 that they, that they have up at McGregor Park. 1083 00:55:03,945 --> 00:55:06,885 And it just says in all caps, please pick up 1084 00:55:06,885 --> 00:55:11,845 after dogs RSA 4 66 31 dash B. 1085 00:55:12,545 --> 00:55:16,685 And I would like to 1086 00:55:18,695 --> 00:55:22,925 bring it to you all to vote that we make a sign 1087 00:55:23,115 --> 00:55:25,325 that just says that please pick up after dogs 1088 00:55:25,345 --> 00:55:26,925 and then cites the RSA 1089 00:55:28,075 --> 00:55:32,565 that we can post alongside our leash, you know, 1090 00:55:32,825 --> 00:55:36,445 the sighting of the leash law, or not the leash law, 1091 00:55:36,465 --> 00:55:39,525 but the, the town ordinance that refers to 1092 00:55:40,195 --> 00:55:42,805 dogs running at large at Broadview 1093 00:55:42,865 --> 00:55:45,645 and any other conservation properties that we might 1094 00:55:46,155 --> 00:55:50,285 feel need reminders about dog fouling. 1095 00:55:53,205 --> 00:55:55,625 So a a as far as the broad view sign, 1096 00:55:55,625 --> 00:55:56,665 because I feel like we're, 1097 00:55:58,105 --> 00:56:01,145 I feel like we're putting up signs, like different signs 1098 00:56:02,005 --> 00:56:03,065 and I think we're gonna end up 1099 00:56:03,065 --> 00:56:04,865 with another sign there probably for something else. 1100 00:56:05,045 --> 00:56:07,065 Should we, at least on the broad view property, 1101 00:56:09,615 --> 00:56:14,005 get one sign that has as this, 1102 00:56:14,235 --> 00:56:16,485 this property is owned 1103 00:56:16,485 --> 00:56:18,445 and managed by the Dairy Conservation Commission 1104 00:56:18,715 --> 00:56:20,925 with some rules instead of having a bunch of spa 1105 00:56:21,225 --> 00:56:22,225 We could do that. 1106 00:56:22,225 --> 00:56:25,325 So just so, just so that you're aware of like 1107 00:56:25,325 --> 00:56:26,365 what it actually looks like. 1108 00:56:26,555 --> 00:56:30,845 It's just a piece of paper, you know, that is put 1109 00:56:31,665 --> 00:56:35,045 behind the plexi glass that's on the trail head. 1110 00:56:35,695 --> 00:56:40,445 There is a small wooden, like eight 1111 00:56:40,445 --> 00:56:45,205 and a half by 11 size with a wooden frame that has, 1112 00:56:45,345 --> 00:56:47,405 that's from Parks and Rec. 1113 00:56:48,025 --> 00:56:52,565 And I believe it's, it's about, you know, 1114 00:56:52,565 --> 00:56:54,365 that it's open from dawn until desk. 1115 00:56:54,865 --> 00:56:56,685 So it has that on it or no, no, no. 1116 00:56:57,075 --> 00:56:59,365 There's a metal sign that says 1117 00:56:59,795 --> 00:57:01,805 that it's open from dawn until dusk. 1118 00:57:01,865 --> 00:57:05,805 And then there's a, a sign that's framed in wood 1119 00:57:05,995 --> 00:57:07,925 that says please pick up, you know, carry 1120 00:57:07,945 --> 00:57:09,845 and carry out, please pick up your trash. 1121 00:57:11,425 --> 00:57:15,365 And then on the trail kiosk, there's the new sign 1122 00:57:15,365 --> 00:57:17,445 that we have about dogs running at large. 1123 00:57:19,345 --> 00:57:23,205 And then, you know, we could potentially have another piece 1124 00:57:23,205 --> 00:57:25,965 of paper in there that says, please pick up after dogs. 1125 00:57:27,265 --> 00:57:29,405 But Yeah, I see what you're saying. 1126 00:57:29,605 --> 00:57:30,845 'cause there's, there's a lot of different 1127 00:57:30,845 --> 00:57:31,845 Things. 1128 00:57:31,845 --> 00:57:34,765 It's a good idea that we, that we have like a message board, 1129 00:57:35,005 --> 00:57:36,605 a marquee maybe we'll call it a 1130 00:57:36,605 --> 00:57:38,245 marquee or, or a message board. 1131 00:57:38,245 --> 00:57:40,685 Yeah. Mr. Met suggests a message board that said 1132 00:57:41,555 --> 00:57:45,085 says something like, welcome to Broadview Farm with the, 1133 00:57:45,085 --> 00:57:50,045 with the Dairy Conservation Commission logo allowed, uses 1134 00:57:50,985 --> 00:57:52,325 and then rules for use. 1135 00:57:52,325 --> 00:57:53,805 Yeah. And then we take down all the other stuff 1136 00:57:54,025 --> 00:57:55,365 and just have one sign 1137 00:57:55,985 --> 00:57:57,725 and then maybe we can also say, 1138 00:57:58,355 --> 00:58:00,645 talk about the public gardens, which are also there 1139 00:58:03,455 --> 00:58:08,235 and have even maybe have some contact info 1140 00:58:08,255 --> 00:58:11,555 on it like dairy conservation. Yeah. 1141 00:58:11,735 --> 00:58:13,715 So we wanna keep in mind too that, 1142 00:58:14,595 --> 00:58:17,195 'cause I, I think that that is the dream, right? 1143 00:58:17,255 --> 00:58:18,355 To have that on there 1144 00:58:18,895 --> 00:58:22,355 and we will be addressing a lot of that with the BioBlitz. 1145 00:58:22,415 --> 00:58:25,795 So part of what, part of the grant that's 1146 00:58:26,035 --> 00:58:27,475 provided with the BioBlitz is 1147 00:58:27,475 --> 00:58:29,995 that Moose Wood Ecological can actually do some help, 1148 00:58:31,415 --> 00:58:35,475 can help us in designing our trailhead kiosk 1149 00:58:35,475 --> 00:58:36,915 and putting things like that on it. 1150 00:58:37,125 --> 00:58:41,115 Which I think would be a bit of a more involved project. 1151 00:58:41,305 --> 00:58:44,315 Like if we are trying to just put people on notice 1152 00:58:44,615 --> 00:58:48,355 and address the dog filing issue sooner rather than later, 1153 00:58:49,175 --> 00:58:52,155 you know, we can just put up a sign is, 1154 00:58:52,215 --> 00:58:53,875 is a very quick thing that, you know, 1155 00:58:53,875 --> 00:58:55,035 we can do in an afternoon 1156 00:58:55,975 --> 00:59:00,075 and make a goal to, you know, have a more detailed kind 1157 00:59:00,075 --> 00:59:02,115 of overhaul that has the allowed uses 1158 00:59:02,115 --> 00:59:05,555 and has a lot of things about it with a list of Yeah. You 1159 00:59:05,555 --> 00:59:07,275 Know, what's allowed after the bio blitz do the, 1160 00:59:07,335 --> 00:59:08,435 do the bigger, right. 1161 00:59:08,505 --> 00:59:09,795 Yeah. I love the sound of that. 1162 00:59:10,575 --> 00:59:13,875 People like the sound of that Jay, Jay look like you have a 1163 00:59:14,335 --> 00:59:16,875 To have, you know, nothing but negatives, you know. 1164 00:59:17,305 --> 00:59:20,795 Yeah. For our communications with the public and yeah, 1165 00:59:21,145 --> 00:59:22,365 It would be great to have a balance. 1166 00:59:22,915 --> 00:59:24,885 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking say, you know, 1167 00:59:24,885 --> 00:59:27,525 welcome to, here's the things about homeA, the, the, 1168 00:59:27,545 --> 00:59:28,885 the town you all that stuff. 1169 00:59:28,885 --> 00:59:32,965 Alright. So, but I do think that the bio blitz thing needs 1170 00:59:32,965 --> 00:59:34,845 to get in our rear view before we do that. 1171 00:59:34,865 --> 00:59:37,805 So I, I don't think you need a motion. 1172 00:59:38,045 --> 00:59:39,205 I think when we put Okay. 1173 00:59:39,305 --> 00:59:41,325 Put yeah, everyone's nodding, right? Yeah. 1174 00:59:41,325 --> 00:59:44,325 We're gonna put up the sign about the dog f do dog fouling 1175 00:59:44,345 --> 00:59:46,045 in the ex existing kiosk. 1176 00:59:46,705 --> 00:59:49,205 So wait, yes, do that or no, do not do that. Yes, 1177 00:59:49,205 --> 00:59:50,205 Yes. 1178 00:59:50,205 --> 00:59:51,765 Yeah, let's do that and then have a, have a goal. 1179 00:59:51,905 --> 00:59:54,325 Why don't you, why don't we put it on, on our, 1180 00:59:55,305 --> 00:59:57,325 on our, on our our sheet. 1181 00:59:57,865 --> 00:59:59,085 We didn't talk about that sheet. 1182 00:59:59,085 --> 01:00:01,605 We probably should talk about that sheet Beth. Sure. 1183 01:00:01,665 --> 01:00:03,165 You wanna do that before we do the, 1184 01:00:03,425 --> 01:00:04,885 the do the tree falling stuff? 1185 01:00:04,885 --> 01:00:07,245 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Again, talk about the sheet that we have 1186 01:00:07,345 --> 01:00:09,405 and, and how we're, how we're managing the, 1187 01:00:09,705 --> 01:00:10,885 So we have a spreadsheet, 400 1188 01:00:10,885 --> 01:00:12,085 projects we got going right now. 1189 01:00:13,395 --> 01:00:16,965 Yeah. So we have a spreadsheet where I'm trying 1190 01:00:16,965 --> 01:00:19,285 to capture, you know, all these little things, 1191 01:00:19,345 --> 01:00:23,445 all these like big goals, little goals and, 1192 01:00:23,945 --> 01:00:26,005 and all the things that kind of happen in between. 1193 01:00:26,015 --> 01:00:30,085 Right. And sending that to Rick once a week so 1194 01:00:30,085 --> 01:00:31,525 that he can review it 1195 01:00:31,525 --> 01:00:35,165 and kind of set the priorities right Because, you know, 1196 01:00:35,325 --> 01:00:36,325 I kind of just go through 1197 01:00:36,345 --> 01:00:41,085 and I've been, you know, deciding myself like 1198 01:00:41,085 --> 01:00:42,965 what looks like the most urgent thing or, 1199 01:00:43,025 --> 01:00:44,685 or the next thing that needs to be worked on. 1200 01:00:44,705 --> 01:00:47,725 So we're working on that more together so that, so 1201 01:00:47,725 --> 01:00:49,925 that he can set the priorities for 1202 01:00:49,925 --> 01:00:51,645 where my time is being spent. 1203 01:00:52,585 --> 01:00:54,365 And once we have that completely, 1204 01:00:54,645 --> 01:00:56,885 'cause I think we're real close to having the it 1205 01:00:56,885 --> 01:00:59,565 done, we can include Mr. 1206 01:00:59,795 --> 01:01:02,245 Metz in that distributions. Okay. 1207 01:01:02,265 --> 01:01:04,205 So we're, we're still developing the, 1208 01:01:05,925 --> 01:01:07,825 so we have the spreadsheet and we have the legend. 1209 01:01:08,155 --> 01:01:09,665 We're gonna put it all in one document. 1210 01:01:09,805 --> 01:01:13,665 So it's gonna be a quick glance. 1211 01:01:13,935 --> 01:01:14,945 This is what, this is 1212 01:01:14,945 --> 01:01:16,745 what the conservation commissioner is working on 1213 01:01:17,245 --> 01:01:21,945 and this is the prioritization, prioritization of, you know, 1214 01:01:21,945 --> 01:01:23,625 what we're working on first, second, and third. 1215 01:01:25,525 --> 01:01:27,785 So something that can be handed to, to a commissioner 1216 01:01:27,785 --> 01:01:29,865 and say, or even the tout administrator 1217 01:01:30,125 --> 01:01:32,465 or you Charlie saying here's our, here's our, 1218 01:01:32,685 --> 01:01:34,225 the 40 projects we got going 1219 01:01:34,605 --> 01:01:38,185 and this is the, the basically the urgency of some 1220 01:01:38,925 --> 01:01:42,505 and the, the less urgent stuff down to our wishlist that 1221 01:01:43,335 --> 01:01:44,705 Beth uses as filling stuff. 1222 01:01:45,045 --> 01:01:46,185 Yep. So we're, 1223 01:01:46,725 --> 01:01:47,905 And I have a to done tab, 1224 01:01:48,035 --> 01:01:49,945 which is very, a very useful Yeah. 1225 01:01:50,125 --> 01:01:51,545 Memory jogger. Yeah. 1226 01:01:52,455 --> 01:01:56,225 Yeah. So we're done in our, in our, you know, 30 minutes, 1227 01:01:56,285 --> 01:01:57,945 30 minute phone calls that we have. 1228 01:01:57,965 --> 01:01:59,545 We, we, we cover a lot of material. 1229 01:01:59,605 --> 01:02:01,665 So this kind of gives us a, an opportunity 1230 01:02:01,685 --> 01:02:03,825 to, to help with that. 1231 01:02:03,915 --> 01:02:05,465 Thank you Beth. Go ahead. Continue. Yeah. 1232 01:02:05,465 --> 01:02:09,625 Great. Okay, so the last thing on my list here is a quote 1233 01:02:09,725 --> 01:02:13,385 for tree felling at 17 Holiday Ave. 1234 01:02:15,605 --> 01:02:18,065 So I did, I prepared a staff report, 1235 01:02:18,365 --> 01:02:20,765 my first staff report that. 1236 01:02:22,025 --> 01:02:26,165 So the purpose is to approve one of these three quotes 1237 01:02:28,225 --> 01:02:31,765 for contractors to file a potentially dying tree along a 1238 01:02:32,005 --> 01:02:34,205 boundary shared between Cornelius and Farm property 1239 01:02:34,205 --> 01:02:35,685 and 17 Holiday Ave. 1240 01:02:36,525 --> 01:02:40,605 I do have one that I recommend from a SC Tree Services. 1241 01:02:41,265 --> 01:02:44,245 So just to refresh everybody's memory on the background, 1242 01:02:44,665 --> 01:02:48,085 the residents at 17 holiday have reached out to us last year 1243 01:02:48,085 --> 01:02:50,445 with concerns about a tree limb overhanging their barn. 1244 01:02:51,245 --> 01:02:53,005 The tree limb is attached to a tree 1245 01:02:53,005 --> 01:02:55,965 that's on conservation property and we 1246 01:02:56,325 --> 01:02:58,725 provided the residents with a letter of permission 1247 01:02:58,745 --> 01:03:00,725 to fill the tree at their own expense 1248 01:03:01,425 --> 01:03:04,605 and they requested financial assistance fell the tree. 1249 01:03:05,265 --> 01:03:07,485 So with the direction from the property management 1250 01:03:07,485 --> 01:03:10,965 committee, we obtained three quotes from dairy base business 1251 01:03:11,965 --> 01:03:13,085 to have the tree filled. 1252 01:03:14,705 --> 01:03:17,005 So after I reviewed the three quotes, 1253 01:03:17,215 --> 01:03:19,965 there was a pretty widespread between the lowest estimate 1254 01:03:19,965 --> 01:03:23,525 of $1,300 and the highest estimate of $3,000. 1255 01:03:24,405 --> 01:03:27,245 So I looked into why they were so different 1256 01:03:28,625 --> 01:03:30,925 and it basically revealed 1257 01:03:30,925 --> 01:03:34,085 that the companies all have three different ways they, they, 1258 01:03:34,085 --> 01:03:35,685 that they were gonna approach this work. 1259 01:03:36,585 --> 01:03:38,645 And I wanted to be sure that, you know, 1260 01:03:38,965 --> 01:03:40,605 I don't wanna just recommend that we go 1261 01:03:40,605 --> 01:03:42,565 with the lowest quote because it's the lowest quote. 1262 01:03:42,785 --> 01:03:46,365 So I wanted to know how they were going to handle the work. 1263 01:03:46,465 --> 01:03:48,685 So the highest estimate is the highest 1264 01:03:48,685 --> 01:03:52,685 because the worker would need to climb the 1265 01:03:53,355 --> 01:03:55,365 tree in order to remove it in pieces 1266 01:03:55,585 --> 01:03:57,485 and climbing poses a higher risk. 1267 01:03:58,145 --> 01:03:59,485 So that's the highest price. 1268 01:04:00,105 --> 01:04:03,605 The middle estimate was going to use a bucket truck, 1269 01:04:03,945 --> 01:04:07,245 but the homeowner spoke to me 1270 01:04:07,305 --> 01:04:10,805 and said that they do not feel comfortable having a bucket 1271 01:04:10,805 --> 01:04:12,565 truck in their backyard for fear 1272 01:04:12,625 --> 01:04:14,925 of like ripping up their backyard, et cetera. 1273 01:04:16,745 --> 01:04:21,365 And then the lowest one from a CS tree services, 1274 01:04:21,805 --> 01:04:24,805 I mean, sorry, A SC Tree Services Inc. 1275 01:04:26,115 --> 01:04:31,045 Will use an aerial tracked lift boom is the name 1276 01:04:31,105 --> 01:04:34,045 of the, of the machine, A KAS spider. 1277 01:04:35,465 --> 01:04:37,925 And it is a smaller, lighter 1278 01:04:37,985 --> 01:04:39,965 and more maneuverable than a bucket truck 1279 01:04:40,425 --> 01:04:41,765 and it's safer 1280 01:04:41,865 --> 01:04:44,045 for the worker than actually climbing the tree. 1281 01:04:44,625 --> 01:04:48,325 So it's basically this pretty thin machine that, 1282 01:04:48,345 --> 01:04:49,405 you know, they bring in. 1283 01:04:50,315 --> 01:04:52,805 It's not, it's not a vehicle that goes on the road, right. 1284 01:04:52,875 --> 01:04:54,885 It's just a small vehicle that they would, 1285 01:04:56,235 --> 01:04:57,245 that they would truck in. 1286 01:04:57,585 --> 01:05:00,445 And then that vehicle has like a remote control 1287 01:05:00,595 --> 01:05:03,765 that you can move it through, you know, 1288 01:05:03,765 --> 01:05:05,805 either the yard or through the woods. 1289 01:05:06,425 --> 01:05:10,845 So it's really good for getting into tight spaces and yeah. 1290 01:05:10,845 --> 01:05:12,245 And it's a lot safer for the worker 1291 01:05:12,525 --> 01:05:14,645 'cause they're in a stabilized machine 1292 01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:17,365 cutting down the tree in much the same way 1293 01:05:17,365 --> 01:05:19,805 that they might be if they were climbing the tree. 1294 01:05:19,905 --> 01:05:20,965 But it's just a lot safer 1295 01:05:21,245 --> 01:05:24,485 'cause they're not in a, you know, in a tree So 1296 01:05:24,555 --> 01:05:26,605 that is the one that I recommend, which also happens 1297 01:05:26,745 --> 01:05:29,445 to be the lowest quote at $1,300. 1298 01:05:31,185 --> 01:05:34,765 And we always, we always do our best to try 1299 01:05:34,765 --> 01:05:36,485 to hire dairy based businesses 1300 01:05:36,485 --> 01:05:37,645 when we're, when we're doing this. 1301 01:05:37,705 --> 01:05:39,725 And all three of the, all three 1302 01:05:39,725 --> 01:05:41,405 of these are dairy based businesses. 1303 01:05:43,105 --> 01:05:47,405 So if we had a, a, I agree 1304 01:05:47,405 --> 01:05:49,165 with Beth's recommendation for thir, 1305 01:05:49,425 --> 01:05:51,085 for choosing the $1,300 one. 1306 01:05:51,085 --> 01:05:53,245 And it's not, not solely because of cost. 1307 01:05:53,925 --> 01:05:55,645 I did look at some, I looked, 1308 01:05:55,685 --> 01:05:58,535 I looked at the machine how it works. 1309 01:05:59,355 --> 01:06:01,135 And I think, I think we're probably gonna be using 1310 01:06:01,565 --> 01:06:02,695 that company quite a bit. 1311 01:06:02,855 --> 01:06:06,735 'cause it's a, it's a low impact, low impact 1312 01:06:08,245 --> 01:06:10,775 machine that, you know, around homes and stuff like that. 1313 01:06:10,815 --> 01:06:13,295 I think it's the perfect, perfect situation. 1314 01:06:13,355 --> 01:06:16,615 So we would need a, a motion 1315 01:06:18,715 --> 01:06:20,735 for $1,300 in the name 1316 01:06:20,735 --> 01:06:25,215 of the tree service is a SC Tree Service Inc. 1317 01:06:26,685 --> 01:06:31,135 Move to approve $1,300 to use a SC tree service 1318 01:06:31,795 --> 01:06:34,655 for tree removal on Cornelius 1319 01:06:35,355 --> 01:06:39,335 and 17 Holiday Ave or Lane second. 1320 01:06:41,685 --> 01:06:45,095 Okay. We have a first by Mr. Metz. Second by Cheryl. 1321 01:06:45,635 --> 01:06:48,855 All is in favor say aye. A Aye. Any opposition? 1322 01:06:49,285 --> 01:06:52,855 Hearing none. Motion carries anything else, Beth? 1323 01:06:53,755 --> 01:06:58,495 That's my last thing. Okay. 1324 01:06:58,495 --> 01:07:01,495 Nice work, Beth. Thank you. That's doing a Thank you, Beth. 1325 01:07:01,495 --> 01:07:02,535 That's doing a lot of work. 1326 01:07:08,365 --> 01:07:10,175 Okay. Next meeting. 1327 01:07:10,205 --> 01:07:14,575 Date is May 4th, and I believe Mr. 1328 01:07:14,725 --> 01:07:16,615 Metz, is that yours or mine? I will not be here. 1329 01:07:16,675 --> 01:07:19,135 So that's mine. Mr. Metz won't be here. 1330 01:07:19,135 --> 01:07:23,935 I'll be looking for someone to make motions for me. Then. 1331 01:07:23,935 --> 01:07:27,255 Our right. The proposed meeting dates have been adjusted 1332 01:07:28,755 --> 01:07:32,855 to reflect some suggestions from the previous meeting. 1333 01:07:33,255 --> 01:07:35,095 Everyone take a peek at that. Peek at those. 1334 01:07:46,585 --> 01:07:48,245 All right. Hearing no objections. 1335 01:07:48,245 --> 01:07:50,205 We're gonna carry that forward to the next meeting. 1336 01:07:50,875 --> 01:07:55,005 Wait. Right. The non-public meeting minutes? Hmm. 1337 01:07:55,065 --> 01:07:57,045 Is that what you just said? The non-public meeting minutes? 1338 01:07:57,305 --> 01:07:59,165 No, the proposed meeting dates. Oh, the 1339 01:07:59,325 --> 01:08:00,565 Proposed. I'm sorry. I'm That's 1340 01:08:00,565 --> 01:08:01,565 Okay. 1341 01:08:01,635 --> 01:08:05,605 Yeah. Other business. I have none. 1342 01:08:05,675 --> 01:08:08,765 Beth, did we cover everything you and I need to cover? Yes. 1343 01:08:08,905 --> 01:08:10,245 Any, any commissioners need 1344 01:08:10,245 --> 01:08:12,965 to bring anything up that we haven't covered? 1345 01:08:14,385 --> 01:08:16,725 No. Okay. 1346 01:08:16,725 --> 01:08:18,925 So we are gonna have a, 1347 01:08:21,405 --> 01:08:23,535 like a, like a two minute non-public meeting. 1348 01:08:25,945 --> 01:08:27,885 So, Mr. Met you, help me with the protocol, please. 1349 01:08:28,025 --> 01:08:29,085 Yep. Move to 1350 01:08:30,025 --> 01:08:34,845 Go into non-public session per RSA 91, A three section one 1351 01:08:35,385 --> 01:08:37,325 for the purpose of property acquisition. 1352 01:08:39,255 --> 01:08:40,555 And we don't have to close this 1353 01:08:40,555 --> 01:08:41,715 meeting or anything like that yet? 1354 01:08:41,935 --> 01:08:44,275 No. Okay. All right. So there's a motion on the floor. 1355 01:08:45,555 --> 01:08:47,395 I need a second. And then we're gonna have a roll call 1356 01:08:48,015 --> 01:08:49,015 Second. 1357 01:08:49,215 --> 01:08:50,395 We have a second by Val. 1358 01:08:51,215 --> 01:08:54,595 And we'll start with the roll call to my right. Yes. 1359 01:08:55,775 --> 01:08:57,675 Yes, Yes, yes, 1360 01:08:58,215 --> 01:08:59,715 Yes, yes, yes. 1361 01:09:01,335 --> 01:09:02,475 And chair votes? Yes. 1362 01:09:02,715 --> 01:09:06,435 I need a motion to invite Beth and Charlie 1363 01:09:08,265 --> 01:09:10,275 Move to invite, invite Beth Carver 1364 01:09:10,275 --> 01:09:11,995 and Councilor Charlie Foot into the meeting. 1365 01:09:12,975 --> 01:09:16,755 Is there a second? Second. First by Mr. Metz. 1366 01:09:16,755 --> 01:09:19,875 Second by Cheryl. Roll call. Starting to my right. Yes. 1367 01:09:20,655 --> 01:09:21,655 Yes, Yes, 1368 01:09:22,335 --> 01:09:24,675 Yes, Yes, yes. 1369 01:09:25,415 --> 01:09:26,475 And the chair votes. Yes. 1370 01:09:26,875 --> 01:09:28,155 We don't have to invite you, Pam, 1371 01:09:28,155 --> 01:09:30,835 because you're, you're, you're an alternate. 1372 01:09:31,625 --> 01:09:33,515 Okay. So we're in, we're in non-public. 1373 01:09:33,545 --> 01:09:36,115 Owen, once you gimme the word, we'll have a quick chat.