1 00:00:01,395 --> 00:00:03,925 Welcome to the Town of Dairy Planning Board for 2 00:00:04,465 --> 00:00:07,325 May 20th, 2026. 3 00:00:07,905 --> 00:00:11,725 We start our meetings, first of all with cease 4 00:00:11,865 --> 00:00:13,965 of conversation among the audience, please. 5 00:00:14,975 --> 00:00:17,045 Thank you. We start our meetings with a Pledge 6 00:00:17,045 --> 00:00:18,485 of Allegiance if you'd rise and join me. 7 00:00:18,495 --> 00:00:19,495 Thank you. 8 00:00:21,325 --> 00:00:24,605 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America 9 00:00:25,345 --> 00:00:29,085 to Republic for which stands, one Nation under God 10 00:00:30,385 --> 00:00:31,685 of Liberty Justice. 11 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:40,305 We'll start with some housekeeping announcements. 12 00:00:42,165 --> 00:00:45,145 If there is a reason to leave the building in an emergency, 13 00:00:45,145 --> 00:00:46,185 an alarm activation or, 14 00:00:46,205 --> 00:00:49,585 or such, there is an exit behind you where you came in. 15 00:00:49,655 --> 00:00:52,225 There's also an exit to my right, to your left, 16 00:00:52,225 --> 00:00:56,745 which will open up if the alarm sounds during an emergency. 17 00:00:56,745 --> 00:00:59,305 The elevator is not operational, so if you need assistance, 18 00:01:00,365 --> 00:01:02,425 please wait for first responders, 19 00:01:04,255 --> 00:01:07,225 silence all your devices and and whatnot, 20 00:01:07,765 --> 00:01:11,025 and sit back and hopefully enjoy the meeting. 21 00:01:13,025 --> 00:01:14,985 I will now introduce the staff 22 00:01:15,405 --> 00:01:20,225 and the members who are present to my far right is Mr. 23 00:01:20,585 --> 00:01:24,305 Ey are alternate. Ms. Du planning Director. 24 00:01:24,415 --> 00:01:27,545 Good evening, Ms. Wilson, our planning clerk, 25 00:01:28,845 --> 00:01:31,065 Mr. Chase, who is the town Council liaison. 26 00:01:31,175 --> 00:01:35,305 Good evening. Mr. Wood, who is a regular member. 27 00:01:35,575 --> 00:01:38,265 Evening, Mr. Menini, who's a regular member. Good 28 00:01:38,265 --> 00:01:40,465 Evening To my far left. 29 00:01:40,535 --> 00:01:43,545 Sitting in the audience is our Deputy Director 30 00:01:43,605 --> 00:01:45,545 of Pub Public Works, Mr. 31 00:01:45,825 --> 00:01:47,985 LaRue. And we have Mr. 32 00:01:48,225 --> 00:01:50,945 Viner, who is the coordinator for Dairy Cam 33 00:01:50,945 --> 00:01:53,305 and makes all the fun wonderful TV stuff work. 34 00:01:54,885 --> 00:01:56,505 Mr. Foli, who is the 35 00:01:59,265 --> 00:02:00,265 Engineering Coordinator. 36 00:02:00,385 --> 00:02:01,705 Engineering Coordinator. Okay. I have, 37 00:02:01,705 --> 00:02:02,865 we haven't seen you in a, in a few weeks, 38 00:02:02,865 --> 00:02:03,985 so I just wanna make sure I get that right. 39 00:02:04,265 --> 00:02:07,825 Engineering coordinator from Public Works. Good evening, Mr. 40 00:02:08,095 --> 00:02:10,465 Pier, who's a regular member. Good evening, Mr. 41 00:02:11,185 --> 00:02:12,785 Alby, who's a secretary. Hello. 42 00:02:13,185 --> 00:02:16,465 We are missing Mr. O'Connor, Mr. 43 00:02:17,495 --> 00:02:21,825 Fisherman and Mr. Chair Cello is just arriving. So sorry. 44 00:02:22,585 --> 00:02:25,265 I would like to seat Mr. Mie for Mr. Fishman 45 00:02:33,435 --> 00:02:37,905 First item of business under administrative items is escrow. 46 00:02:38,375 --> 00:02:43,025 Item number 26 slash 16 for six Old Chester Road, LLC. 47 00:02:43,575 --> 00:02:44,745 Okay. This project is 48 00:02:44,745 --> 00:02:48,945 for the Liberty Apartments Garage expansion located at 49 00:02:49,005 --> 00:02:50,265 six old Chester Road. 50 00:02:51,065 --> 00:02:52,825 The escrow type is letter of credit. 51 00:02:53,125 --> 00:02:55,225 The request is to establish letter 52 00:02:55,225 --> 00:02:59,065 of credit number 1 5 4 8 drawn on primary bank in the amount 53 00:02:59,165 --> 00:03:04,045 of $66,385 19 cents for the above noted project. 54 00:03:04,545 --> 00:03:07,565 The expiration date will be May 8th, 2027. 55 00:03:07,985 --> 00:03:12,125 So moved. Who would like to be the designated seconder? 56 00:03:12,265 --> 00:03:13,565 Second that Mr. 57 00:03:13,595 --> 00:03:17,125 Bill so moved by Ali, second by Pier to 58 00:03:17,785 --> 00:03:19,405 accept the escrow as presented. 59 00:03:19,865 --> 00:03:24,805 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Ravi? Yes. Mr. 60 00:03:25,085 --> 00:03:29,565 Mousy? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. 61 00:03:29,575 --> 00:03:33,045 Chair votes? Yes. Next item is 26 dash 17 62 00:03:33,105 --> 00:03:35,445 for Hidden Pond Dairy LLC. 63 00:03:35,985 --> 00:03:39,405 The project name is 98 Gulf Road Subdivision Plan 64 00:03:39,405 --> 00:03:42,085 of Map four lot 40 developer's, 65 00:03:42,085 --> 00:03:44,445 hidden Pond Dairy LLC David Aldrich. 66 00:03:44,715 --> 00:03:47,365 This is a cash escrow for 98 Gulf Road. 67 00:03:47,785 --> 00:03:49,845 The request is to approve a final release 68 00:03:49,845 --> 00:03:53,125 of cash escrow in the amount of $18,026 69 00:03:53,145 --> 00:03:55,645 and 25 cents for the above noted project. 70 00:03:56,065 --> 00:03:57,645 The amount to retain is zero. 71 00:03:58,065 --> 00:04:01,325 So moved, Moved by Maldy, seconded by Paler 72 00:04:01,325 --> 00:04:02,885 to approve the release as presented. 73 00:04:03,065 --> 00:04:07,725 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Masey? 74 00:04:07,785 --> 00:04:11,725 Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Palantier? Yes. Mr. Mal Maby? Yes. 75 00:04:12,025 --> 00:04:15,285 And chair vote? Yes. Now on to course. 76 00:04:15,465 --> 00:04:16,485 Oh, approval of minutes. 77 00:04:16,985 --> 00:04:21,085 We have before the minutes of May 20, May 6th, 2026. 78 00:04:21,745 --> 00:04:23,965 Has everyone had a chance to review them? 79 00:04:24,105 --> 00:04:26,005 Any comments, errors or omissions? 80 00:04:29,225 --> 00:04:31,645 Mr. Chair? I move to approve the minutes as written. 81 00:04:31,865 --> 00:04:32,865 Second, 82 00:04:33,335 --> 00:04:36,845 Moved by Mby, seconded by Pier to approve the minutes 83 00:04:37,225 --> 00:04:38,565 of May 6th as written. 84 00:04:38,985 --> 00:04:43,445 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Maby? 85 00:04:43,545 --> 00:04:48,365 Yes. Mr. Ello, I'll have to abstain. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. 86 00:04:48,585 --> 00:04:51,325 Mallie? Yes. And Chair Woods? Yes. 87 00:04:52,835 --> 00:04:54,525 Next onto correspondence. 88 00:04:55,425 --> 00:04:57,405 Mr. Chair, we've got a little homework in our 89 00:04:57,405 --> 00:04:58,445 correspondence tonight. 90 00:04:58,775 --> 00:05:02,085 We've got an email from our planning director, Ms. 91 00:05:02,465 --> 00:05:04,205 Du on from May 20th. 92 00:05:05,145 --> 00:05:08,005 She reviewed the minutes of the April 1st, 2026 meeting 93 00:05:08,585 --> 00:05:10,565 at which we discussed potential goals 94 00:05:10,585 --> 00:05:12,205 for the remainder of 2026. 95 00:05:12,625 --> 00:05:15,085 And there's an implementation matrix for your review 96 00:05:15,085 --> 00:05:16,725 and comment and we're being asked to review it 97 00:05:16,725 --> 00:05:19,405 by the June 3rd meeting for suggested changes 98 00:05:19,785 --> 00:05:21,685 to timeframes and priorities. 99 00:05:22,595 --> 00:05:24,765 Okay, let's, let's all do that. 100 00:05:24,885 --> 00:05:27,285 'cause it's sort of important to not try 101 00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:28,445 to do everything at once. 102 00:05:28,585 --> 00:05:30,125 So that's an important item 103 00:05:30,125 --> 00:05:32,205 to set goals. Thank you for that. 104 00:05:32,655 --> 00:05:35,805 Thank you. Anything Else? Nope. Okay. 105 00:05:36,465 --> 00:05:38,605 So we'll now move on to other business. 106 00:05:39,665 --> 00:05:42,805 We have a second reading on the policies and procedures. 107 00:05:44,905 --> 00:05:46,365 Has everyone seen it? 108 00:05:46,665 --> 00:05:50,445 Has anyone have any last minute bias remorse on 109 00:05:50,445 --> 00:05:52,045 what we did last meeting? 110 00:05:54,115 --> 00:05:56,685 Okay, so what is the appropriate motion here? 111 00:05:57,385 --> 00:05:59,605 So we need to have two clean readings 112 00:05:59,825 --> 00:06:01,885 and so at the next meeting we can vote 113 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:03,045 to accept the changes. 114 00:06:03,115 --> 00:06:06,205 Okay. And they'll become effective the next meeting. 115 00:06:06,345 --> 00:06:07,445 So let it, let it be shown. 116 00:06:07,445 --> 00:06:09,725 This is the first clean reading and we'll bring it back. 117 00:06:09,725 --> 00:06:11,005 Next meeting. Alright, 118 00:06:11,135 --> 00:06:12,135 Thank you. 119 00:06:14,065 --> 00:06:18,925 We need to schedule a public hearing on June 17th 120 00:06:19,105 --> 00:06:21,525 to discuss proposed changes to the town 121 00:06:21,525 --> 00:06:22,845 of dairy zoning ordinances. 122 00:06:22,845 --> 00:06:25,485 Article two word uses and definitions. 123 00:06:26,125 --> 00:06:27,965 Article six, district provisions 124 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:32,045 Section 1 65 33 Central Business District. 125 00:06:32,385 --> 00:06:34,085 We did make some changes 126 00:06:34,185 --> 00:06:38,205 and we approve that last meeting. 127 00:06:38,585 --> 00:06:42,445 Any, any last minute alibis 128 00:06:42,585 --> 00:06:44,285 or buyer remorse on that one? 129 00:06:45,025 --> 00:06:46,165 And we can have a, a motion 130 00:06:46,225 --> 00:06:47,565 to schedule it for public hearing. 131 00:06:48,185 --> 00:06:53,165 So move second. Is that fine Ms. Wilson? 132 00:06:53,165 --> 00:06:57,485 That I read? I read, yeah. Okay. Very good. Mr. Chase? Yes. 133 00:06:57,825 --> 00:07:02,525 Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Moey? Yes. Mr. Chair. 134 00:07:02,535 --> 00:07:05,965 Cello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. Chair votes? Yes. 135 00:07:06,675 --> 00:07:08,485 Similarly, we need to schedule a public hearing 136 00:07:09,985 --> 00:07:13,645 for June 17th, 2026 to discuss proposed changes to the town 137 00:07:13,645 --> 00:07:16,205 of dairy land development control regulations. 138 00:07:16,555 --> 00:07:20,605 Article 14, architectural design regulations. 139 00:07:22,225 --> 00:07:23,925 So moved second. Okay. 140 00:07:23,935 --> 00:07:28,205 Moved by m Be seconded by Pier to schedule for June 17th. 141 00:07:28,425 --> 00:07:31,885 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Yes. 142 00:07:31,885 --> 00:07:35,525 Point of order. Mr. Chairman, would we need to, 143 00:07:35,785 --> 00:07:40,525 to read the complete sentence there that was 144 00:07:41,005 --> 00:07:44,285 provided by us that says to delete sections one 70 dash 84, 145 00:07:44,285 --> 00:07:45,965 do we need to announce that in public? It'll 146 00:07:45,965 --> 00:07:47,325 Be part of the legal notice. 147 00:07:48,035 --> 00:07:50,485 Okay. Sorry about that. No, It's all good. 148 00:07:52,625 --> 00:07:54,005 Mr. Mousy? Yes. 149 00:07:54,145 --> 00:07:59,005 Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. Yes. 150 00:08:00,645 --> 00:08:01,845 Planning Director and chairman. Updates? 151 00:08:02,905 --> 00:08:05,405 Oh, so busy preparing for the meeting. 152 00:08:05,525 --> 00:08:08,365 I didn't think of anything. We do have, 153 00:08:08,585 --> 00:08:10,565 our intern will be starting next week. 154 00:08:10,785 --> 00:08:12,365 Yay. So you should be able 155 00:08:12,365 --> 00:08:14,845 to meet Abby at the June 3rd meeting. 156 00:08:14,945 --> 00:08:18,045 So we're very excited to get her on board and working. 157 00:08:19,265 --> 00:08:21,005 Trying to think. We have a few, 158 00:08:21,745 --> 00:08:23,845 few plans coming forward in the works. 159 00:08:24,195 --> 00:08:26,645 Looking forward to getting, you know, 160 00:08:26,645 --> 00:08:28,365 these zoning amendments moved forward 161 00:08:28,905 --> 00:08:31,005 and getting the, the goals sort of sorted out. 162 00:08:31,025 --> 00:08:34,285 So we've got a roadmap for the summer. That's really it. 163 00:08:34,655 --> 00:08:38,565 Great. We still have a, an open position for an alternate. 164 00:08:38,665 --> 00:08:40,245 So again, encourage anyone 165 00:08:40,665 --> 00:08:42,445 who thinks this might be a fun thing to come 166 00:08:42,545 --> 00:08:45,045 and help us apply on the website. 167 00:08:45,805 --> 00:08:47,485 And also note for the record that I 168 00:08:48,395 --> 00:08:50,445 neglected recognize Ms. Donovan, our 169 00:08:51,085 --> 00:08:53,085 economic development director, who's also in the audience. 170 00:08:55,355 --> 00:08:59,965 Okay. First, first public hearing is for Ashley Development, 171 00:09:00,045 --> 00:09:03,485 LLC and Crystal Avenue Development LLC 172 00:09:03,865 --> 00:09:08,285 for parcel ID 3 0 0 9 6 18 Crystal Avenue 173 00:09:08,655 --> 00:09:12,645 acceptance and review of a site plan amendment conversion 174 00:09:12,705 --> 00:09:14,965 of a building to multi-tenant. 175 00:09:15,515 --> 00:09:18,965 Okay, the proposal is located at 18 Crystal Avenue. 176 00:09:19,145 --> 00:09:21,965 The site of the former Rite Aid pharmacy, which had a drive 177 00:09:21,965 --> 00:09:23,085 through pharmacy pickup. 178 00:09:23,705 --> 00:09:26,445 The parcel contains a little over two acres. 179 00:09:26,945 --> 00:09:29,205 The proposal is to convert the building into four units, 180 00:09:30,775 --> 00:09:33,525 about a 2000 square foot bank with a drive 181 00:09:33,525 --> 00:09:36,125 through 6,200 square foot cheer gym, 182 00:09:37,135 --> 00:09:39,365 3000 square foot dental office, 183 00:09:39,865 --> 00:09:42,205 and an empty future tenant space 184 00:09:42,385 --> 00:09:45,405 of about 1100 square feet. 185 00:09:45,795 --> 00:09:48,485 This property is located in the central business district 186 00:09:49,305 --> 00:09:53,005 in its conversion from single to multi-tenant. 187 00:09:53,165 --> 00:09:54,485 Buildings are permitted in the zone 188 00:09:54,905 --> 00:09:57,885 and the uses proposed this evening are all 189 00:09:57,885 --> 00:09:59,005 permitted in the district. 190 00:10:00,125 --> 00:10:01,285 Neither highway safety 191 00:10:01,345 --> 00:10:03,645 nor Conservation Commission was review was 192 00:10:03,925 --> 00:10:04,965 required for this application. 193 00:10:05,665 --> 00:10:08,485 The largest user onsite will be the cheer gym 194 00:10:08,555 --> 00:10:10,645 with the most activity occurring at night. 195 00:10:10,665 --> 00:10:12,885 And on the weekends when other uses are closed, 196 00:10:13,425 --> 00:10:15,685 the existing Rite Aid signs will be removed 197 00:10:15,705 --> 00:10:16,925 and the applicant intends 198 00:10:16,925 --> 00:10:19,005 to utilize the existing pylon sign. 199 00:10:19,485 --> 00:10:22,405 I will note that the signage included in your rendering is 200 00:10:22,405 --> 00:10:24,965 just a placeholder and doesn't represent 201 00:10:24,965 --> 00:10:26,525 any specific potential tenant. 202 00:10:27,345 --> 00:10:29,525 The applicant is aware that any major changes 203 00:10:29,665 --> 00:10:30,765 to the pylon sign 204 00:10:30,825 --> 00:10:33,685 or landscaping will require further planning board review. 205 00:10:34,425 --> 00:10:37,325 The applicant intends to clean up the existing landscaping. 206 00:10:37,545 --> 00:10:38,685 New windows will be added 207 00:10:38,705 --> 00:10:41,245 to the building facing the parking lot to add visibility 208 00:10:41,245 --> 00:10:42,725 and allow for more natural light. 209 00:10:43,635 --> 00:10:44,885 Details requested 210 00:10:44,885 --> 00:10:48,365 by DPW were not fully updated on the submitted plan set 211 00:10:48,465 --> 00:10:52,605 and DPW is requesting those remaining items be addressed 212 00:10:52,625 --> 00:10:55,365 as conditions precedent to a final planning board approval. 213 00:10:55,735 --> 00:10:57,925 Those are noted in your suggested motions. 214 00:10:58,545 --> 00:11:00,645 The majority of the change will be handed handled 215 00:11:00,645 --> 00:11:02,485 through the building permit applications, 216 00:11:03,055 --> 00:11:05,925 which will be reviewed by Code and Fire Prevention. 217 00:11:06,745 --> 00:11:09,205 Any future tenants will need to fill out a change 218 00:11:09,205 --> 00:11:11,045 of use application with the planning office. 219 00:11:11,965 --> 00:11:15,565 Parking calculations are adequate for the proposed uses. 220 00:11:16,005 --> 00:11:18,525 I would note that the calc for the cheer gym needs 221 00:11:18,525 --> 00:11:20,085 to be refined and clarified 222 00:11:20,085 --> 00:11:21,845 because I think there was some typos there. 223 00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:25,085 So we just wanna make sure it's clear on the final plan. 224 00:11:26,565 --> 00:11:28,845 A sewer connection permit will be required. 225 00:11:29,685 --> 00:11:34,565 I do wanna note that the DPW 226 00:11:34,635 --> 00:11:38,485 condition details include review of storm water or sewer 227 00:11:38,485 --> 00:11:40,925 or drainage modifications by town staff 228 00:11:40,985 --> 00:11:42,565 before those are implemented 229 00:11:42,565 --> 00:11:45,845 and put on the plan of additional concern. 230 00:11:46,425 --> 00:11:49,205 The abutter at 16 Crystal came into the office 231 00:11:49,305 --> 00:11:51,965 to review the plan and while we were reviewing it, 232 00:11:51,985 --> 00:11:55,045 we noted the driveway for 16 crystals. 233 00:11:55,045 --> 00:11:58,605 Commercial lot is partially on the Rite Aid, 234 00:11:59,315 --> 00:12:00,885 what I'm calling the Rite Aid property. 235 00:12:01,385 --> 00:12:03,845 An easement should be drafted between the parties 236 00:12:03,985 --> 00:12:06,005 and noted on the plan to protect the current 237 00:12:06,005 --> 00:12:07,645 and future owners of both properties. 238 00:12:08,305 --> 00:12:11,685 The butter also commented on drainage issues occurring on 239 00:12:11,685 --> 00:12:14,085 her property around resulting in a flooded basement 240 00:12:14,085 --> 00:12:15,685 that seemed to be coming from 18. 241 00:12:15,685 --> 00:12:18,965 Crystal Sam Foli and Alex 242 00:12:19,105 --> 00:12:20,725 and DPW went on site 243 00:12:21,105 --> 00:12:23,205 and observed conditions in the wetland on the 244 00:12:23,205 --> 00:12:24,245 east side of the property. 245 00:12:24,885 --> 00:12:26,925 The outlet from the 18 inch CMP pipe 246 00:12:28,485 --> 00:12:31,205 18 crystal is completely submerged in dirt. 247 00:12:31,625 --> 00:12:34,005 And the inlet for the pipe that connects this wetland 248 00:12:34,005 --> 00:12:36,125 and drainage from the 18 inch CMP 249 00:12:36,125 --> 00:12:38,165 to the drainage network on Crystal Ave is 250 00:12:38,165 --> 00:12:39,325 also submerged in dirt. 251 00:12:40,305 --> 00:12:42,125 Sam recommends that the entire area 252 00:12:42,125 --> 00:12:44,085 where the pipes meet should be excavated 253 00:12:44,085 --> 00:12:46,845 to fully exposed the pipes to allow water to exit 254 00:12:46,985 --> 00:12:48,725 and enter the outlet and inlets. 255 00:12:49,025 --> 00:12:50,885 The pipes themselves should be jetted 256 00:12:50,885 --> 00:12:53,605 to fully clean them out and the wetland should also be fully 257 00:12:53,605 --> 00:12:54,685 cleared of debris. 258 00:12:55,265 --> 00:12:59,245 So there are two additional conditions precedent 259 00:12:59,595 --> 00:13:03,525 that we're asking you to consider, and I've 260 00:13:03,805 --> 00:13:08,485 provided those, I've provided the wording for that 261 00:13:08,785 --> 00:13:11,885 and the, the chair and the secretary have that. 262 00:13:13,785 --> 00:13:15,685 And I guess I would recommend that 263 00:13:17,795 --> 00:13:20,325 make a determination with regard to regional impact. 264 00:13:20,925 --> 00:13:23,485 I don't believe we had any waivers associated 265 00:13:23,485 --> 00:13:26,645 with this project and we would recommend approval. 266 00:13:27,515 --> 00:13:28,845 Okay. No waivers. That's good 267 00:13:31,395 --> 00:13:34,365 Then we have So sounds like we can 268 00:13:34,365 --> 00:13:35,445 accept jurisdiction then. 269 00:13:35,445 --> 00:13:36,445 Who wants to make a motion? 270 00:13:37,265 --> 00:13:39,165 Mr. Chair? I move to accept jurisdiction 271 00:13:39,165 --> 00:13:40,245 of the amended site plan 272 00:13:40,245 --> 00:13:42,285 before the board for Ashley Drive development, 273 00:13:42,805 --> 00:13:47,005 L-L-C-P-I-D 3 0 0 9 6 18 274 00:13:47,005 --> 00:13:48,205 Crystal Avenue. Second, 275 00:13:49,015 --> 00:13:52,605 Moved by Mamby, seconded by Pier to accept jurisdiction. 276 00:13:52,905 --> 00:13:57,845 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Ey? 277 00:13:57,865 --> 00:14:01,445 Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. 278 00:14:01,495 --> 00:14:03,685 Chair votes? Yes. And on the 279 00:14:03,885 --> 00:14:05,245 determination of regional impact, 280 00:14:06,105 --> 00:14:07,105 Mr. 281 00:14:07,105 --> 00:14:10,725 Chair, pursuant to RSA 36 56, the board finds the proposal 282 00:14:10,785 --> 00:14:12,685 as presented at this time meets the definition 283 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:14,165 of a development of regional impact. 284 00:14:16,185 --> 00:14:20,165 Second, Moved by Melody, seconded by Peir. 285 00:14:21,065 --> 00:14:22,365 We will start off with Mr. Chase 286 00:14:22,365 --> 00:14:23,525 who always sets us right on this. 287 00:14:25,505 --> 00:14:27,725 No, this is an existing retail structure 288 00:14:27,725 --> 00:14:30,645 that is only being redesigned for multi-tenant use 289 00:14:30,665 --> 00:14:34,485 and does not meet the definition of a regional impact. 290 00:14:34,905 --> 00:14:38,925 Mr. Wood? No. For the same reasons. Mr. Menini? No. 291 00:14:38,925 --> 00:14:42,365 For the same reasons. Mr. Mousy? Oh, for the same reasons. 292 00:14:42,745 --> 00:14:46,205 Mr. Ello? No. For the same reasons. Mr. Pier? No. 293 00:14:46,205 --> 00:14:47,845 For the same reasons. Mr. Maldy? 294 00:14:47,905 --> 00:14:49,325 No. For the same reasons. Chair votes? 295 00:14:49,345 --> 00:14:51,965 No for the same reasons. Can I have a 296 00:14:51,965 --> 00:14:53,005 motion to open the public hearing? 297 00:14:53,145 --> 00:14:55,405 So moved. Second. Moved by Mby 298 00:14:55,405 --> 00:14:57,645 and seconded by Pier to open the public hearing. 299 00:14:57,645 --> 00:15:00,485 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Public hearing is open. 300 00:15:01,465 --> 00:15:03,125 The applicant is invited to come forward 301 00:15:03,125 --> 00:15:04,565 and give us their executive summary. 302 00:15:10,405 --> 00:15:13,165 Thank you Mr. Chair Ford. Very pleased to be here. 303 00:15:13,165 --> 00:15:15,165 Chris McCarthy, my partner Simon Beland. 304 00:15:15,865 --> 00:15:19,525 We purchased this building about six, seven months ago now. 305 00:15:19,525 --> 00:15:22,285 We saw the potential on Crystal Ave to redevelop this 306 00:15:22,425 --> 00:15:25,645 and we've been working closely with the town's office, 307 00:15:26,635 --> 00:15:29,485 with the town's economic development director, Bev Donovan, 308 00:15:29,485 --> 00:15:34,165 who's been fantastic and trying to identify local businesses 309 00:15:34,165 --> 00:15:36,885 that we could home here in this, in this building. 310 00:15:37,025 --> 00:15:39,565 So we think we've come up with a very attractive plan. 311 00:15:39,775 --> 00:15:42,925 We've got one sign lease, several Lois right now, 312 00:15:43,865 --> 00:15:46,125 and as you mentioned already, 313 00:15:46,125 --> 00:15:48,925 this building is preexisting the parking lot. 314 00:15:49,065 --> 00:15:50,845 All of the infrastructure that we need is 315 00:15:50,845 --> 00:15:52,005 currently already in place. 316 00:15:52,865 --> 00:15:56,125 We have retained North Point landscape to assist 317 00:15:56,125 --> 00:15:58,965 with the landscape cleanup, the grubbing of the, 318 00:15:59,025 --> 00:16:00,885 the wetlands and some 319 00:16:00,885 --> 00:16:02,285 of those other areas along the drainage 320 00:16:02,785 --> 00:16:05,805 and looking forward to getting started with the interior 321 00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:07,965 building work, demising walls, 322 00:16:08,065 --> 00:16:09,885 and then the exterior improvements as well. 323 00:16:11,225 --> 00:16:12,765 So very pleased to be here tonight 324 00:16:12,785 --> 00:16:14,125 and thank you for your consideration. 325 00:16:15,355 --> 00:16:18,365 Alright, so let's, let's start with 326 00:16:18,365 --> 00:16:19,965 with the board to, to get things rolling. 327 00:16:19,995 --> 00:16:21,645 Does anyone have any questions or comments? 328 00:16:25,175 --> 00:16:26,705 I'll make a, I'll make a quick comment. 329 00:16:26,945 --> 00:16:29,945 I, I, because I actually live on Roll Street, 330 00:16:30,565 --> 00:16:31,785 my wife worked in that building 331 00:16:31,845 --> 00:16:33,545 for 25 years, so I know it well. 332 00:16:34,345 --> 00:16:35,745 I did see some activity over there, 333 00:16:35,745 --> 00:16:38,025 which I thought was great, getting rid of the weeds 334 00:16:38,025 --> 00:16:39,305 and some landscaping, which was good. 335 00:16:42,565 --> 00:16:44,825 Did I also notice that there'll be something on the 336 00:16:44,825 --> 00:16:45,865 back side of that building? 337 00:16:46,175 --> 00:16:47,665 Like a separate unit? 338 00:16:49,085 --> 00:16:52,225 So the, the unit entrance will be on the same side, 339 00:16:52,225 --> 00:16:54,785 the parking lot side, but they will have a second egress 340 00:16:55,005 --> 00:16:56,265 to the back going out kind 341 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:58,025 of towards where the dumpster pad is. Okay. 342 00:16:58,025 --> 00:16:59,665 That will be a separate business, 343 00:17:00,415 --> 00:17:01,415 Same business. 344 00:17:01,415 --> 00:17:02,945 Okay. So it, it's one of the four 345 00:17:02,945 --> 00:17:04,585 that will actually be the largest user. 346 00:17:05,345 --> 00:17:08,025 They'll be coming in, bringing in mats, et cetera, so 347 00:17:08,025 --> 00:17:09,145 that the larger door 348 00:17:10,005 --> 00:17:12,225 and the access for deliveries is, is good for them. 349 00:17:12,735 --> 00:17:15,105 Okay. And then one more quick question. 350 00:17:15,125 --> 00:17:19,265 The, the photo that I'm looking at here, the front 351 00:17:19,335 --> 00:17:24,225 that actually faces the, the Crystal Ave, are you doing any 352 00:17:25,065 --> 00:17:26,145 plantings or whatnot over there? 353 00:17:26,145 --> 00:17:28,825 That was a little bit rough when, when Right. Was there, so 354 00:17:28,885 --> 00:17:31,105 It, as a matter of fact, we have the same landscape 355 00:17:31,105 --> 00:17:33,305 architect from when this was originally designed and, 356 00:17:33,405 --> 00:17:35,425 and some of it has just been overgrown and, and, 357 00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:37,305 and kind of really not maintained. 358 00:17:37,605 --> 00:17:40,265 So the idea is to not make wholesale changes, 359 00:17:40,265 --> 00:17:41,905 obviously without coming back in, 360 00:17:41,965 --> 00:17:45,345 but grubbing, trimming back and, 361 00:17:45,405 --> 00:17:47,985 and kind of making some improvements along the front. 362 00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:50,005 We, we obviously want the visibility. 363 00:17:50,025 --> 00:17:52,365 We think it's very attractive, so we, we wanna make sure 364 00:17:52,365 --> 00:17:53,405 that that really pops. 365 00:17:53,635 --> 00:17:57,165 Yeah. And as was mentioned 366 00:17:57,185 --> 00:17:59,765 as they were reading off the plan, there will be additional 367 00:18:00,325 --> 00:18:04,205 windows to add sunlight along the side of Crystal Avenue. 368 00:18:05,065 --> 00:18:07,685 Oh, okay. Gotcha. 369 00:18:08,145 --> 00:18:10,565 And so landscaping those beds as well would, 370 00:18:10,625 --> 00:18:12,845 is gonna go a long way to improving the visibility. 371 00:18:13,625 --> 00:18:15,765 And then one last thing if you don't mind, Mr. Janet. 372 00:18:15,835 --> 00:18:17,405 Okay. Like I said, I know the, 373 00:18:17,485 --> 00:18:19,325 I know the building very well, so I apologize, 374 00:18:19,585 --> 00:18:21,765 but the walkway in the front, some of 375 00:18:21,765 --> 00:18:24,805 that cement has been neglected over time, you know, 376 00:18:24,875 --> 00:18:26,205 it's crumbling and whatnot. 377 00:18:26,265 --> 00:18:29,125 I'm, I'm, I'm thinking you guys are gonna fix that up, 378 00:18:29,195 --> 00:18:30,195 Correct? 379 00:18:30,195 --> 00:18:31,285 Yeah, we'll be working on the flat 380 00:18:31,285 --> 00:18:32,485 work there to expand that. 381 00:18:32,665 --> 00:18:34,885 And this is actually a good illustration above us, 382 00:18:34,885 --> 00:18:38,205 you'll see on the right hand side facing the parking lot, 383 00:18:38,625 --> 00:18:39,845 the proposed tenant doors. 384 00:18:39,865 --> 00:18:41,765 So we'll be expanding the flat work there. 385 00:18:42,305 --> 00:18:44,925 We will be taking away one parking spot just 386 00:18:44,985 --> 00:18:48,245 to improve the access coming in, making 387 00:18:48,245 --> 00:18:49,885 that obviously pedestrian friendly 388 00:18:50,465 --> 00:18:53,645 and completely redoing the, the cement flat work 389 00:18:53,645 --> 00:18:54,645 There. 390 00:18:54,645 --> 00:18:57,165 Oh good. Very good. It was very exciting 391 00:18:57,265 --> 00:19:00,005 to see something going in there, so thank you. Thank you. 392 00:19:00,105 --> 00:19:01,725 If your wife's been in the building for 20 years, 393 00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:02,725 we'd love to know how to turn the AC 394 00:19:02,885 --> 00:19:03,885 Off. 395 00:19:03,885 --> 00:19:05,605 25 years she worked at Rite Aid 25 years. 396 00:19:06,255 --> 00:19:07,285 Maybe she didn't come 397 00:19:07,395 --> 00:19:08,565 show us how to use some of the systems. 398 00:19:10,075 --> 00:19:12,405 Yeah. So following up on one of Mr. 399 00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:14,725 Char's comments 400 00:19:14,785 --> 00:19:18,525 and your answer, the windows that are being added to admit, 401 00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:23,925 admit additional daylight is that current frames full 402 00:19:23,925 --> 00:19:27,605 of spandrel glass that is being replaced with actual glass 403 00:19:29,675 --> 00:19:30,605 fake windows that are black, 404 00:19:30,875 --> 00:19:32,045 that you're not making real windows. 405 00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:35,285 Those aren't fake windows. 406 00:19:35,285 --> 00:19:36,885 They're actually, it's panels right now. 407 00:19:37,275 --> 00:19:40,605 It's, so we'll have to cut the walls to add those windows 408 00:19:41,305 --> 00:19:42,685 And it'll be traditional storefront 409 00:19:43,325 --> 00:19:44,325 Glazing. 410 00:19:44,725 --> 00:19:45,725 Hmm. Okay. 411 00:19:46,585 --> 00:19:48,325 The only real one I believe is the 412 00:19:48,325 --> 00:19:49,485 first one after the door. 413 00:19:49,545 --> 00:19:52,125 The other three that you'll see in this plan are additions. 414 00:19:53,515 --> 00:19:55,285 Okay. Do we have any comments 415 00:19:55,305 --> 00:19:56,965 or questions from members of the public, either 416 00:19:57,545 --> 00:19:59,005 in the audience or online? 417 00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:06,805 I was just, was just thinking the same thing. 418 00:20:06,805 --> 00:20:10,205 It'll be nice to cease that retail business being used, 419 00:20:11,265 --> 00:20:13,165 so I wish you the best luck. Thank you. 420 00:20:13,165 --> 00:20:15,165 Thank you. Alright, so if there's no more questions 421 00:20:15,165 --> 00:20:17,525 from, if there's no question from the public back 422 00:20:17,525 --> 00:20:21,045 to the board, any further follow up from any board member, 423 00:20:25,545 --> 00:20:26,085 Mr. Chase, 424 00:20:26,115 --> 00:20:29,445 Just, You had noted to it earlier, you're aware of the 425 00:20:31,075 --> 00:20:32,925 discharge and inlet problems with those pipes 426 00:20:32,925 --> 00:20:33,925 and you're ready to take care of that. 427 00:20:34,465 --> 00:20:37,005 We are, and I spoke this this afternoon with, 428 00:20:37,005 --> 00:20:38,845 with the abutter as well about some 429 00:20:38,845 --> 00:20:40,565 of the historical things and what's happened. 430 00:20:40,585 --> 00:20:42,405 So we intend to clean that out 431 00:20:42,425 --> 00:20:45,965 and then also perhaps work with town DPW and 432 00:20:45,965 --> 00:20:48,805 and engineering to, to see kind of what we could do 433 00:20:48,805 --> 00:20:50,925 with water retainage on our side. 434 00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:54,565 But then also is there other water kind of coming through 435 00:20:54,625 --> 00:20:56,605 and connecting through those other properties, how 436 00:20:56,605 --> 00:20:57,685 that can be slowed down 437 00:20:58,875 --> 00:21:01,205 because I guess during storms it, it is kind 438 00:21:01,205 --> 00:21:03,885 of coming back down through that low lying land there. 439 00:21:04,195 --> 00:21:07,645 Okay, That's all I have, Mr. Chair. 440 00:21:09,345 --> 00:21:11,005 All right. If there's no more common 441 00:21:11,025 --> 00:21:12,805 or questions then I'll solicit a 442 00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:13,885 motion to close the public hearing. 443 00:21:14,105 --> 00:21:17,965 So move. Second, move by Melody, seconded by Peir 444 00:21:17,965 --> 00:21:19,085 to close the public hearing all. 445 00:21:19,085 --> 00:21:21,005 Is it fair to say? Aye. Aye. Aye. All right. 446 00:21:21,065 --> 00:21:22,285 Our public hearing is closed. 447 00:21:22,945 --> 00:21:24,365 We move on to consideration 448 00:21:24,365 --> 00:21:26,045 of architectural design regulations. 449 00:21:27,185 --> 00:21:29,125 Mr. Chair, I move to find that pursuant 450 00:21:29,125 --> 00:21:33,365 to LDCR one 70 dash 85 that the application 451 00:21:33,365 --> 00:21:35,565 as presented demonstrates substantial compliance 452 00:21:35,565 --> 00:21:37,445 with the architectural design regulations. 453 00:21:37,915 --> 00:21:40,285 This property is located in the central business district 454 00:21:40,385 --> 00:21:41,885 and meets a high level of compliance 455 00:21:41,905 --> 00:21:45,245 as outlined in section one 70 dash 84. Second 456 00:21:45,775 --> 00:21:47,845 Moved by Mabe, seconded by Pier 457 00:21:47,905 --> 00:21:51,685 to find the architectural design regulations are complied 458 00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:53,205 with Mr. Chase. 459 00:21:53,425 --> 00:21:57,325 Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Mabe? 460 00:21:58,625 --> 00:22:03,085 Yes. I mean Uhuh, Mr. Mousy. Yes. 461 00:22:03,825 --> 00:22:08,525 Yes. You said haw. Yes. Mr. Paler? Yes. And Mr. Mal still? 462 00:22:08,525 --> 00:22:12,525 Yes. Yeah. Chair votes? Yes. Okay. 463 00:22:13,325 --> 00:22:14,725 Findings of fact, who would like 464 00:22:14,725 --> 00:22:16,005 to move on? Findings of fact, 465 00:22:16,625 --> 00:22:17,625 Mr. 466 00:22:17,625 --> 00:22:19,965 Chair. The board finds the proposed plan provide safe 467 00:22:19,965 --> 00:22:23,405 and efficient vehicular and pedestrian access in the design 468 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:25,125 and construction of the access ways 469 00:22:25,145 --> 00:22:26,445 and walkways are adequate 470 00:22:26,445 --> 00:22:28,085 to accommodate the anticipated volume 471 00:22:28,085 --> 00:22:29,765 of traffic proposed by development. 472 00:22:30,505 --> 00:22:32,885 The board finds the proposed parking plan is adequate 473 00:22:32,885 --> 00:22:35,365 for the site and meets the parking density requirements 474 00:22:35,365 --> 00:22:36,405 for the proposed users. 475 00:22:37,385 --> 00:22:39,645 The board finds a continuation 476 00:22:39,645 --> 00:22:42,205 of the landscape plan from the prior use meets the 477 00:22:42,205 --> 00:22:43,365 intent of the regulations. 478 00:22:44,065 --> 00:22:46,565 The board finds the stormwater management as proposed, 479 00:22:46,665 --> 00:22:49,525 as designed to control the post-development runoff so 480 00:22:49,525 --> 00:22:51,645 that it does not exceed pre-development runoff. 481 00:22:52,225 --> 00:22:54,805 The board finds utility construction standards are met. 482 00:22:55,425 --> 00:22:57,325 The board finds exterior lighting 483 00:22:57,385 --> 00:22:59,405 and snow storage provisions are adequate. 484 00:22:59,925 --> 00:23:01,445 I move to agree with the above noted 485 00:23:01,445 --> 00:23:02,525 findings of fact. Second. 486 00:23:03,465 --> 00:23:06,085 So moved by Melody, seconded by Pier 487 00:23:06,465 --> 00:23:08,245 to make findings of fact. 488 00:23:08,625 --> 00:23:12,405 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. 489 00:23:13,555 --> 00:23:16,845 This is not, this is not a good night for me. Mr. 490 00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:21,725 Intervening? Yes. Mr. Mousy? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? 491 00:23:21,785 --> 00:23:23,885 Yes. Mr. Maby and chair votes? Yes. 492 00:23:24,665 --> 00:23:28,165 Oh, it's gonna be an early night for me. I think it's 493 00:23:28,165 --> 00:23:29,285 Okay. Dave, you do in any order? 494 00:23:30,105 --> 00:23:32,285 Huh? You can Do 'em in any order. It's 495 00:23:32,285 --> 00:23:33,285 Fine. 496 00:23:33,285 --> 00:23:36,085 Well, fact confuses people when I change it up. 497 00:23:37,195 --> 00:23:42,045 Alright, we now have the consideration of approval 498 00:23:42,345 --> 00:23:47,205 and we for the first time, I think have a separate listing 499 00:23:47,305 --> 00:23:50,565 of conditions, precedent and conditions subsequent. 500 00:23:50,585 --> 00:23:52,245 So who would like to make a motion on this? 501 00:23:52,385 --> 00:23:53,645 And can we read these together? 502 00:23:54,765 --> 00:23:57,565 Yeah, these read the whole Okay. 503 00:23:57,795 --> 00:23:59,725 Page and whatever is Yeah. Whole page. 504 00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:02,565 All right. And there are, this is the one 505 00:24:02,565 --> 00:24:05,925 where we did remove the address staff comments, 506 00:24:06,065 --> 00:24:07,845 and then we did add two considerations 507 00:24:07,845 --> 00:24:09,125 to the conditions precedent. 508 00:24:10,185 --> 00:24:12,045 Mr. Chair, after reviewing deliberation 509 00:24:12,045 --> 00:24:16,365 of the site plan amendment application for PID 3 0 0 9 6, 510 00:24:16,705 --> 00:24:18,245 Ashley development A LC. 511 00:24:18,545 --> 00:24:20,685 The board finds the applicant is satisfied the general 512 00:24:20,685 --> 00:24:23,365 requirements of the land development control regulations. 513 00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:26,045 Therefore the motion is to approve pursuant 514 00:24:26,045 --> 00:24:30,765 to RSA 6 76 4 Roman one completed application 515 00:24:30,835 --> 00:24:34,245 with the following conditions for conditions precedent, 516 00:24:34,555 --> 00:24:39,045 subject to onus signature, the existing pipe inlets 517 00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:41,845 and outlets referenced on note two on sheet two 518 00:24:41,865 --> 00:24:45,245 of the plan shall be fully cleared of all sediment, leaves, 519 00:24:45,345 --> 00:24:48,125 debris and trash down to the respective inverts. 520 00:24:48,745 --> 00:24:50,445 The two pipes conveying flow to 521 00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:53,005 and from this area shall also be thoroughly cleared 522 00:24:53,065 --> 00:24:54,285 by jetting, vacuuming 523 00:24:54,385 --> 00:24:56,565 or other methods as required by the town engineer. 524 00:24:57,305 --> 00:24:59,565 In addition, the adjacent wetland areas 525 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:00,765 should be cleared of all trash. 526 00:25:01,135 --> 00:25:04,885 Other inorganic materials, enlarged dead woodly debris 527 00:25:04,905 --> 00:25:06,605 as required by the town engineer and 528 00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:07,845 or environmental coordinator. 529 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:11,405 An access easement be drafted, recorded, 530 00:25:11,585 --> 00:25:14,605 and noted on the plan to memorialize a portion 531 00:25:14,605 --> 00:25:15,845 of the driveway for 16. 532 00:25:15,845 --> 00:25:18,965 Crystal Ave is located on 18 Crystal Avenue Lot. 533 00:25:19,915 --> 00:25:21,805 Establish appropriate escrow is 534 00:25:22,005 --> 00:25:23,045 required to complete the plan. 535 00:25:23,865 --> 00:25:26,645 Change title of plan from change of use site plan 536 00:25:26,745 --> 00:25:28,605 to site plan amendment. 537 00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:32,405 Obtain written approval from the planning director designee 538 00:25:32,405 --> 00:25:35,205 that the GIS submission is received and is operable 539 00:25:35,265 --> 00:25:37,165 and it complies with LDCR. 540 00:25:37,165 --> 00:25:39,805 Section one 70 dash 61 C. 541 00:25:40,835 --> 00:25:42,805 Subject to receipt of applicable state 542 00:25:42,805 --> 00:25:44,805 or local permits relating to the project. 543 00:25:45,905 --> 00:25:46,965 Any water, sewer, 544 00:25:46,965 --> 00:25:48,725 or drainage modifications must be 545 00:25:48,725 --> 00:25:49,965 submitted to the town for approval. 546 00:25:50,715 --> 00:25:53,085 Clarify the parking calc for the cheer gym 547 00:25:53,265 --> 00:25:54,725 and update the plan accordingly. 548 00:25:55,335 --> 00:25:57,645 Conditions precedent shall be met within six months. 549 00:25:58,465 --> 00:26:01,125 And then for conditions subsequent subject 550 00:26:01,145 --> 00:26:04,965 to onsite inspection by the town, the by the town engineer, 551 00:26:05,625 --> 00:26:07,245 the owner and tenants are responsible 552 00:26:07,245 --> 00:26:08,605 for determining billing arrangements 553 00:26:08,605 --> 00:26:09,845 as they pertain to water usage. 554 00:26:10,345 --> 00:26:12,925 The DPW will not be involved in the installation at 555 00:26:13,325 --> 00:26:14,725 reconfiguration of manifolds 556 00:26:14,945 --> 00:26:17,525 or submeters within the building as tenant layouts 557 00:26:17,525 --> 00:26:20,205 and internal plumbing configurations may change frequently 558 00:26:20,205 --> 00:26:23,125 over time, only one master water meter will 559 00:26:23,125 --> 00:26:24,165 be installed for the property. 560 00:26:25,315 --> 00:26:27,525 Each tenant secured as of the date of the meeting, 561 00:26:27,575 --> 00:26:29,125 shall submit an emergency contact 562 00:26:29,435 --> 00:26:30,645 form to the planning department. 563 00:26:30,645 --> 00:26:32,645 That's the cheer gym, the dental office, 564 00:26:32,645 --> 00:26:34,885 and the bank change of use. 565 00:26:34,885 --> 00:26:37,085 Applicant shall be submitted to the planning office 566 00:26:37,105 --> 00:26:38,285 for any future tenants. 567 00:26:41,385 --> 00:26:44,845 Second. Motion to approve 568 00:26:45,825 --> 00:26:47,965 by Maldy, seconded by Pier. 569 00:26:48,225 --> 00:26:51,005 Any questions or comments on that? Any debate? 570 00:26:53,995 --> 00:26:58,325 Hearing none. Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Veni? Yes. 571 00:26:59,145 --> 00:27:03,645 Mr. Mousey? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. 572 00:27:03,875 --> 00:27:08,765 Maby? Yes. Chair votes? Yes. Okay. Great. 573 00:27:08,905 --> 00:27:10,645 Congratulations guys. Great. Thank you. 574 00:27:10,645 --> 00:27:11,965 Thank you very much to see you. Appreciate it. 575 00:27:12,175 --> 00:27:13,845 Thank you. Thank you. 576 00:27:23,195 --> 00:27:25,805 Next item on the agenda is a public hearing 577 00:27:25,945 --> 00:27:29,405 for EPSI incorporated partial ID 578 00:27:29,675 --> 00:27:32,045 0 8 0 0 1 dash 579 00:27:32,275 --> 00:27:36,645 0 0 2 0 0 3 12 a street for acceptance 580 00:27:36,645 --> 00:27:39,085 and review of a site plan review 581 00:27:39,465 --> 00:27:44,045 for a 25 20,500 square foot light industrial development. 582 00:27:45,115 --> 00:27:46,925 Okay. Their proposal is 583 00:27:46,945 --> 00:27:51,285 to construct a 20,500 square foot light industrial building 584 00:27:51,335 --> 00:27:52,405 consisting of a mix 585 00:27:52,405 --> 00:27:55,485 of general office light manufacturing in warehouse space 586 00:27:55,585 --> 00:27:57,245 for EPSI Inc. 587 00:27:58,325 --> 00:28:01,405 Engineered pressured systems specializes in high pressure 588 00:28:01,995 --> 00:28:03,325 isostatic presses 589 00:28:03,865 --> 00:28:07,125 and say that quick custom built pressure vessels. 590 00:28:07,985 --> 00:28:10,605 The building is proposed to be two stories with a future 591 00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:13,085 of 5,000 square foot expansion area to the rear 592 00:28:13,085 --> 00:28:15,845 of the building, which will be about 58 feet tall. 593 00:28:16,155 --> 00:28:18,285 This is a future high bay testing area 594 00:28:18,425 --> 00:28:20,765 and the height is required to accommodate a crane. 595 00:28:21,305 --> 00:28:24,285 The property is located in the newly designated industrial 596 00:28:24,545 --> 00:28:27,925 two district 47 parking spaces are proposed. 597 00:28:28,345 --> 00:28:30,285 The lot contains 3.49 acres 598 00:28:30,305 --> 00:28:32,605 and the proposal meets the requirements in the zoning 599 00:28:32,605 --> 00:28:34,125 ordinance, including height. 600 00:28:34,875 --> 00:28:36,885 Snow storage areas are shown on the plan 601 00:28:36,905 --> 00:28:39,125 and trash will be collected by an outside vendor 602 00:28:40,015 --> 00:28:41,965 given the existing conditions 603 00:28:41,965 --> 00:28:44,565 of municipal infrastructure in a high water table. 604 00:28:45,165 --> 00:28:47,485 Ensuring the storm water management system met the needs 605 00:28:47,485 --> 00:28:49,565 and requirements of the town was a little challenging. 606 00:28:50,385 --> 00:28:52,765 The applicant's engineer worked with DPW 607 00:28:52,905 --> 00:28:54,485 to address the concerns of the town 608 00:28:54,505 --> 00:28:57,405 and ensure proper separation of utilities will be achieved. 609 00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:00,525 Specific conditions relating to construction 610 00:29:00,525 --> 00:29:03,365 and water main details have been suggested by DPW 611 00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:05,605 with regard to traffic. 612 00:29:06,065 --> 00:29:10,165 The proposal will add about 113 vehicle trips per weekday 613 00:29:10,595 --> 00:29:12,365 with 14 vehicles entering 614 00:29:12,365 --> 00:29:14,005 during peak morning and evening hours. 615 00:29:14,235 --> 00:29:16,805 This will have minimal impact on Manchester Road in 616 00:29:16,805 --> 00:29:17,925 the surrounding road network. 617 00:29:18,615 --> 00:29:19,885 Truck traffic will be 618 00:29:19,885 --> 00:29:22,205 around two truck trips per day on average, 619 00:29:22,255 --> 00:29:24,725 which will have no impact on the existing road network. 620 00:29:25,345 --> 00:29:28,445 The project proposes two driveway entrances off a street 621 00:29:28,945 --> 00:29:31,565 and the project is not proposed to increase noise 622 00:29:31,585 --> 00:29:32,925 or emissions in the district 623 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:36,285 or generate any type of nuisance for waivers. 624 00:29:37,385 --> 00:29:40,365 We have determined that we do not need the waiver 625 00:29:40,585 --> 00:29:45,205 to allow a subsurface infiltration system based on the VHB 626 00:29:45,225 --> 00:29:47,485 review and then further review by DPW. 627 00:29:48,865 --> 00:29:51,565 We will retain the waiver to not provide 628 00:29:52,085 --> 00:29:53,925 vertical granite curb throughout the site. 629 00:29:54,705 --> 00:29:56,045 And then we also have, 630 00:30:00,505 --> 00:30:03,725 we have an additional waiver with regard 631 00:30:03,725 --> 00:30:04,925 to parking calculations. 632 00:30:05,465 --> 00:30:07,525 We went back and we looked at those again 633 00:30:07,785 --> 00:30:11,565 and redefined the parking calculations. 634 00:30:12,015 --> 00:30:14,925 Total parking spaces are required is 54. 635 00:30:15,525 --> 00:30:17,725 Based on our review today, I worked with Mr. 636 00:30:17,775 --> 00:30:21,565 Malinowski on that. The applicant is providing 47 spaces. 637 00:30:21,925 --> 00:30:23,325 A written waiver was submitted 638 00:30:23,325 --> 00:30:25,605 to the planning department today and is in the file. 639 00:30:26,505 --> 00:30:27,685 So we would suggest 640 00:30:27,685 --> 00:30:32,165 that you add a waiver from LDCR section 1 70 63 C four 641 00:30:33,045 --> 00:30:37,685 to permit the 47 spaces where we would require 54 642 00:30:41,455 --> 00:30:42,925 Alteration of terrain permit 643 00:30:43,185 --> 00:30:45,925 and area driveway permits are required. 644 00:30:46,865 --> 00:30:48,885 So the recommendation is to 645 00:30:49,445 --> 00:30:51,525 review the proposed site plan waiver requests 646 00:30:51,525 --> 00:30:53,965 and make a determination on regional impact. 647 00:30:54,785 --> 00:30:58,285 We feel this plan meets all of all the regulations. 648 00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:03,125 Michael Malki of Allen Major is here, as well as the, 649 00:31:03,465 --> 00:31:07,725 the owners of E-S-P-E-P-S-I are here tonight. 650 00:31:08,385 --> 00:31:10,405 Ms. Ro, are there any of the waivers 651 00:31:10,715 --> 00:31:11,885 that would impact our, 652 00:31:11,885 --> 00:31:14,165 our decision on accepting jurisdiction? 653 00:31:15,345 --> 00:31:19,365 No. Okay. So let's move on to that. 654 00:31:20,505 --> 00:31:22,365 Mr. Chair. I move to accept jurisdiction 655 00:31:22,365 --> 00:31:26,165 of the site plan application for the board for EPSI, Inc. 656 00:31:26,645 --> 00:31:30,805 PID oh 8 0 0 1 dash oh oh 2 0 0 3 12. 657 00:31:31,125 --> 00:31:32,245 A street. Second, 658 00:31:33,215 --> 00:31:36,645 Moved by Maby, second by Pier to accept jurisdiction. 659 00:31:36,705 --> 00:31:41,525 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Manini? Yes. Mr. Maby? 660 00:31:41,605 --> 00:31:46,125 I Mr. Ey? Yes. Mr. Chair. Cello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. 661 00:31:46,315 --> 00:31:47,445 Maby? Yes. Chair votes? Yes. 662 00:31:48,515 --> 00:31:50,925 Alright. Regional 663 00:31:51,125 --> 00:31:52,525 Impact, who would like to make that motion 664 00:31:52,825 --> 00:31:54,125 Before we go to Regional Impact? 665 00:31:54,185 --> 00:31:59,015 Do we have any data 666 00:31:59,115 --> 00:32:00,735 on what their water consumption will be? 667 00:32:03,635 --> 00:32:06,735 My understanding and Paul can address that, 668 00:32:06,915 --> 00:32:09,375 my understanding is there is not going to be a lot 669 00:32:09,375 --> 00:32:10,735 of water usage at all. 670 00:32:11,875 --> 00:32:15,975 And do you wanna take a moment just to explain what you do? 671 00:32:16,285 --> 00:32:18,535 Sure. Okay, thank you. Sure. Alright. 672 00:32:19,035 --> 00:32:22,055 We Oh, you come on up and introduce yourself. 673 00:32:22,705 --> 00:32:27,575 Thank you. This is Paul La Brass. Who owns the, the company? 674 00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:32,495 Hi, I'm Paul Abras. 675 00:32:32,545 --> 00:32:34,455 First just thank you to the Town of Dairy 676 00:32:34,515 --> 00:32:36,095 for entertaining this, this project 677 00:32:36,355 --> 00:32:39,845 and we've had such great luck with Ms. 678 00:32:40,105 --> 00:32:42,685 Du, Ms. Wilson. Ms. Donovan, 679 00:32:42,795 --> 00:32:44,485 it's been a great experience so far. 680 00:32:45,815 --> 00:32:48,205 We're a high pressure equipment manufacturer. 681 00:32:50,025 --> 00:32:52,805 We build custom high pressure vessels for 682 00:32:53,315 --> 00:32:54,725 various industries. 683 00:32:54,885 --> 00:32:59,085 Ceramics, oil and gas defense. 684 00:33:01,145 --> 00:33:04,245 And isostatic pressing is just a, a way basically 685 00:33:04,305 --> 00:33:07,925 to either densify material, condense powders into a solid 686 00:33:09,395 --> 00:33:11,085 testing, subsea testing. 687 00:33:11,725 --> 00:33:16,125 There's, there's a multitude of things we do with the, 688 00:33:16,125 --> 00:33:17,125 with the pressure vessels. 689 00:33:17,125 --> 00:33:19,285 So we, we do all the engineering. 690 00:33:19,285 --> 00:33:20,685 So we're really a group of engineers 691 00:33:20,685 --> 00:33:22,925 and we've got a small group of assembly and test people. 692 00:33:23,825 --> 00:33:27,485 So basically we engineer the, the equipment, we 693 00:33:28,085 --> 00:33:31,885 contract out the fabrication, machining 694 00:33:33,025 --> 00:33:37,125 and then we actually assemble the equipment, test it, 695 00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:39,605 have the customer come in and review the equipment 696 00:33:39,665 --> 00:33:43,045 and then we go and install it in the field. 697 00:33:44,345 --> 00:33:47,525 The amount of work in the shop that we do 698 00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:50,725 that involves like utilities, we might fill up a water tank 699 00:33:50,745 --> 00:33:54,045 of 500 gallons, 800 gallons 700 00:33:55,755 --> 00:33:58,205 once a year, maybe twice a year. 701 00:33:58,865 --> 00:34:01,765 But other than that it's, we have 17 employees, 702 00:34:02,045 --> 00:34:03,845 18 employees, hopefully maybe around 20 703 00:34:03,985 --> 00:34:05,765 by in the next three years. 704 00:34:07,425 --> 00:34:09,925 The rest of the water usage is just standard office 705 00:34:11,355 --> 00:34:12,485 toilets and bathrooms. 706 00:34:13,715 --> 00:34:15,365 Okay, I'm ready. 707 00:34:17,115 --> 00:34:21,445 Alright, so we are back 708 00:34:21,445 --> 00:34:22,645 at Regional Impact, 709 00:34:23,665 --> 00:34:24,665 Mr. 710 00:34:24,665 --> 00:34:27,125 Chair Pursu to RSA 36 56. 711 00:34:27,585 --> 00:34:28,885 The board finds the proposal 712 00:34:29,025 --> 00:34:31,085 as presented at this time meets the definition 713 00:34:31,185 --> 00:34:32,765 of a development of regional impact. 714 00:34:32,825 --> 00:34:33,825 Second, 715 00:34:34,695 --> 00:34:37,165 Moved by Malam, second by Pier 716 00:34:37,585 --> 00:34:39,525 to make a determination. Mr. Chase? 717 00:34:40,465 --> 00:34:44,245 No, this is a smaller fabrication facility 718 00:34:44,245 --> 00:34:47,445 that will not be drawing heavily on utilities or traffic and 719 00:34:47,555 --> 00:34:49,005 therefore does not meet the 720 00:34:49,165 --> 00:34:50,365 determination of a regional impact. 721 00:34:51,425 --> 00:34:54,485 Mr. Wood? No. For the same reasons. Mr. Menini? 722 00:34:54,745 --> 00:34:56,965 No for the same reasons. Mr. Mousy. 723 00:34:57,945 --> 00:34:59,605 Excuse me. No, no. For the same reasons. 724 00:35:00,025 --> 00:35:01,885 Mr. Ello? No. For the same 725 00:35:01,885 --> 00:35:02,885 Reasons. 726 00:35:02,885 --> 00:35:03,405 Mr. Pier? No. For 727 00:35:03,405 --> 00:35:04,405 The same reasons. 728 00:35:04,405 --> 00:35:05,845 And Mr. Mal? No. For the same reasons. 729 00:35:06,055 --> 00:35:07,605 Chair votes? No for the same reasons. 730 00:35:10,025 --> 00:35:12,445 Can we have a motion to open the public hearing? So moved. 731 00:35:12,465 --> 00:35:15,005 Second. Moved by Malibu, seconded by 732 00:35:16,055 --> 00:35:17,165 Paler to open the public hearing. 733 00:35:17,165 --> 00:35:20,885 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Public hearing is open. 734 00:35:21,305 --> 00:35:24,045 Invite the applicant to make their introductory statements. 735 00:35:24,925 --> 00:35:26,485 Excellent. Good evening everyone. 736 00:35:26,765 --> 00:35:31,205 Michael Malinowski with Allen a major associate. Ms. 737 00:35:31,625 --> 00:35:33,645 Du I believe has sort 738 00:35:33,645 --> 00:35:36,925 of outlined the project very well for us. 739 00:35:37,605 --> 00:35:39,845 We have about a 20,000 square foot building. 740 00:35:40,505 --> 00:35:42,685 The front portion will be two stories 741 00:35:43,745 --> 00:35:46,645 and then the back testing area will be the 55 feet. 742 00:35:46,775 --> 00:35:48,885 It'll be a single clear story area. 743 00:35:50,225 --> 00:35:52,845 We have proposed parking along the front 744 00:35:54,105 --> 00:35:56,285 and some ancillary parking outback. 745 00:35:57,385 --> 00:35:59,165 We can probably stick on that page. 746 00:36:01,585 --> 00:36:04,525 We have a double loading dock that is proposed 747 00:36:05,235 --> 00:36:08,205 Further in the plan, we do have truck turning movements 748 00:36:08,205 --> 00:36:13,005 that show that a WB 57 can exit to enter 749 00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:17,605 on the driveway, on the bottom of the page, circle around 750 00:36:17,605 --> 00:36:20,205 and exit out back onto a street. 751 00:36:20,455 --> 00:36:23,285 We've also done that for a town 752 00:36:23,285 --> 00:36:25,045 of dairy fire apparatus as well. 753 00:36:26,225 --> 00:36:28,965 You'll notice that we have a 5,000 square foot future 754 00:36:29,035 --> 00:36:31,885 edition allocated towards the rear. 755 00:36:31,915 --> 00:36:35,485 That would be the same 55 58 foot high 756 00:36:36,315 --> 00:36:37,365 sort of test area. 757 00:36:37,695 --> 00:36:41,125 There is a single overhead door into that space 758 00:36:42,425 --> 00:36:44,445 and right down the middle of where that is, 759 00:36:44,505 --> 00:36:45,805 is the, is their crane. 760 00:36:45,955 --> 00:36:48,445 That would allow them to bring in some heavier pieces 761 00:36:48,445 --> 00:36:51,685 of equipment and offload right at that level 762 00:36:52,185 --> 00:36:53,725 and bring it into that test area. 763 00:36:54,745 --> 00:36:57,805 We have handicap spots along the front at the front entrance 764 00:36:57,835 --> 00:36:59,085 that face a street. 765 00:36:59,945 --> 00:37:02,245 And the primary employee entrance would be 766 00:37:02,345 --> 00:37:03,925 the entrance along the top. 767 00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:07,005 That is a dual directional entrance way. 768 00:37:07,465 --> 00:37:10,125 We do have, do not enter signs just 769 00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:14,205 after that first driveway to limit customers 770 00:37:14,385 --> 00:37:17,645 and employees from not interfering 771 00:37:17,645 --> 00:37:19,565 with truck traffic along the rear. 772 00:37:21,305 --> 00:37:23,485 We do have a, an extensive stormwater 773 00:37:23,485 --> 00:37:24,805 management system that's been designed. 774 00:37:24,985 --> 00:37:26,685 Closed drainage system along the front. 775 00:37:27,525 --> 00:37:31,285 Towards the rear of the property is a large open basin 776 00:37:31,995 --> 00:37:35,685 that will provide treatment and filtration for the water 777 00:37:35,685 --> 00:37:37,605 before discharge to the municipal system. 778 00:37:38,095 --> 00:37:42,085 There is a smaller subsurface infiltration system 779 00:37:42,085 --> 00:37:45,805 that is located in the top parking area 780 00:37:46,275 --> 00:37:49,885 that will pick up roof water and it's roof water only. 781 00:37:50,625 --> 00:37:53,525 And that is to meet the requirement for an A OT permit 782 00:37:53,555 --> 00:37:57,445 that is currently currently pending review at the state. 783 00:37:57,445 --> 00:38:01,165 Right now. We worked very closely with DPW 784 00:38:01,305 --> 00:38:03,965 to coordinate water and sewer connections. 785 00:38:04,775 --> 00:38:06,565 There were some additional comments 786 00:38:06,565 --> 00:38:08,685 that had come back from DPW relatives 787 00:38:08,705 --> 00:38:11,045 to some specifics on the water. 788 00:38:12,025 --> 00:38:16,005 The water is a older AC pipe, so there's conditions 789 00:38:16,005 --> 00:38:19,205 that we need to address relative to that to make sure 790 00:38:19,205 --> 00:38:20,445 that the contractor understands 791 00:38:20,445 --> 00:38:24,205 that there's special precautions in place for that. 792 00:38:24,465 --> 00:38:28,725 As well as a nighttime shutdown due to the age of that line 793 00:38:28,825 --> 00:38:32,805 and the, the lack of valving along a street. 794 00:38:34,385 --> 00:38:36,365 We do have a, a sewer connection that is being 795 00:38:36,685 --> 00:38:39,845 provided through a cross country line 796 00:38:39,995 --> 00:38:42,845 that cuts across the Tupelo parking area. 797 00:38:43,875 --> 00:38:45,965 That sort of crosses our property as well. 798 00:38:45,965 --> 00:38:47,245 So we do have access to that. 799 00:38:47,805 --> 00:38:48,925 The DPW has asked 800 00:38:48,945 --> 00:38:53,085 for some additional measures on that. 801 00:38:53,085 --> 00:38:55,845 They have a certified contractor to do some of that work, 802 00:38:55,845 --> 00:38:57,365 especially on that live line. 803 00:38:58,185 --> 00:39:02,005 We do have a, a full landscape plan that is provided. 804 00:39:02,145 --> 00:39:03,765 So we do have landscape trees 805 00:39:03,765 --> 00:39:05,725 that are going along the front. 806 00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:08,005 If we can advance to that page please. 807 00:39:12,095 --> 00:39:14,055 I believe that's gonna be at the end, sir. 808 00:39:23,755 --> 00:39:25,575 You can see the truck turning movements there. 809 00:39:26,295 --> 00:39:28,735 We do have a lighting plan that has been provided. 810 00:39:28,955 --> 00:39:31,615 So we do show some parking lot lighting. 811 00:39:31,675 --> 00:39:32,695 We do make sure 812 00:39:32,695 --> 00:39:36,735 that there is zero trespass over the property lines for 813 00:39:36,735 --> 00:39:41,735 that site. 814 00:39:42,095 --> 00:39:44,815 Distance profiles for the new driveways, all 815 00:39:44,815 --> 00:39:47,215 of which meet the criteria that the town DBW has 816 00:39:47,315 --> 00:39:48,775 for clear site distance, 817 00:39:52,965 --> 00:39:54,255 full collection of details. 818 00:40:02,245 --> 00:40:03,465 And then our landscape plan. 819 00:40:03,465 --> 00:40:05,705 So you'll notice that we do have street trees 820 00:40:05,705 --> 00:40:07,225 that are going in along a street. 821 00:40:07,925 --> 00:40:10,865 We also have trees that are going in to 822 00:40:11,745 --> 00:40:14,865 shield the parking area as well as the internal islands. 823 00:40:15,645 --> 00:40:19,785 And throughout the project, which meet the criteria 824 00:40:19,885 --> 00:40:22,185 of the landscaping for the town of dairy. 825 00:40:24,425 --> 00:40:28,145 The area will be the back area where we have our basin. 826 00:40:28,405 --> 00:40:30,025 You can see there we loomed 827 00:40:30,025 --> 00:40:31,545 and seeded with a wildflower mix 828 00:40:32,405 --> 00:40:34,225 to help establish that area as well. 829 00:40:37,515 --> 00:40:39,425 Happy to answer any questions that the board may have. 830 00:40:40,605 --> 00:40:42,185 Any questions or comments from the board? 831 00:40:44,145 --> 00:40:46,865 I I just have a quick question. I don't know. 832 00:40:47,185 --> 00:40:50,825 I mean if we get into the waiver portion of the parking, 833 00:40:51,025 --> 00:40:52,945 I just have a quick question. 834 00:40:54,365 --> 00:40:58,585 Did I hear correctly that the regulations require 52 835 00:40:58,605 --> 00:40:59,745 but we're waiving it 836 00:40:59,925 --> 00:41:02,745 and there's actually 47 parking spots. Is that true? 837 00:41:02,855 --> 00:41:07,345 Yeah. Yeah. We require 54 and they're proposing 47. 838 00:41:07,735 --> 00:41:09,665 Okay. And that will be sufficient for that. 839 00:41:09,665 --> 00:41:11,825 I mean, it won't be what we see in the future. 840 00:41:11,825 --> 00:41:14,465 Parking on a street if there was overflow? 841 00:41:14,725 --> 00:41:16,665 No. Okay. It's there. They're anticipated. 842 00:41:16,665 --> 00:41:19,105 They have no more than 20 employees. Okay. At this area. 843 00:41:19,205 --> 00:41:20,665 So we've got 47 spots. 844 00:41:21,125 --> 00:41:24,385 We do have some room if, if needed, that we could provide 845 00:41:25,515 --> 00:41:28,225 along the back edge of where that 5,000 square foot is. 846 00:41:28,225 --> 00:41:32,785 So we could make it, but it doesn't, it doesn't seem prudent 847 00:41:32,785 --> 00:41:33,845 to construct parking. 848 00:41:33,875 --> 00:41:35,365 Yeah. To just construct parking. 849 00:41:35,955 --> 00:41:38,285 Okay. Thank you. 850 00:41:38,665 --> 00:41:40,525 Any other questions or comments from the board? 851 00:41:42,515 --> 00:41:44,295 Are there any members of the public, either present 852 00:41:44,355 --> 00:41:46,055 or online who have comments or questions? 853 00:41:46,055 --> 00:41:49,815 Please come forward. Give your name 854 00:41:49,815 --> 00:41:52,335 and address for the record and you can stay right there. 855 00:41:52,575 --> 00:41:55,095 'cause we want you to answer the question right away 856 00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:56,215 rather than make a long list. 857 00:41:56,575 --> 00:41:58,575 David Procher, 26 Milton Mill Road. 858 00:41:59,175 --> 00:42:00,575 Actually here for a completely different reason, 859 00:42:00,675 --> 00:42:02,735 but since I'm here, I might as well ask my questions. 860 00:42:02,735 --> 00:42:06,095 Yeah. So you have 861 00:42:06,845 --> 00:42:08,895 like this proposed tree line 862 00:42:09,565 --> 00:42:11,695 that is set back considerably from 863 00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:12,895 where the current tree line is. 864 00:42:14,715 --> 00:42:17,095 How do you know approximately how many trees would have 865 00:42:17,095 --> 00:42:18,495 to get cut down to push that back? 866 00:42:20,395 --> 00:42:23,255 Not many. So that tree line that is shown is more, 867 00:42:23,565 --> 00:42:25,175 it's the vegetation Okay. 868 00:42:25,445 --> 00:42:28,375 Line. It's not actual full maturity trees. Okay. 869 00:42:28,435 --> 00:42:31,175 The vast majority of that site has been cleared prior 870 00:42:31,235 --> 00:42:32,455 to the current owner. 871 00:42:32,645 --> 00:42:33,655 Okay. Taking it over. 872 00:42:33,875 --> 00:42:36,815 So there's not many, there's not many trees left out 873 00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:37,815 There. 874 00:42:37,815 --> 00:42:40,295 Okay. And now this isn't on the map 875 00:42:40,295 --> 00:42:41,815 that was available in the back there, 876 00:42:41,815 --> 00:42:43,015 but it is up on the screen right now. 877 00:42:43,395 --> 00:42:47,175 You're putting in some wild flower seeds and low, correct? 878 00:42:47,325 --> 00:42:48,935 Yeah. So we have a stormwater basin 879 00:42:48,935 --> 00:42:49,935 that's going back there. 880 00:42:50,045 --> 00:42:51,935 Okay. That'll filter the water. 881 00:42:52,035 --> 00:42:54,295 So the, the bottom of that pond Okay. 882 00:42:54,855 --> 00:42:56,335 Actually has a mulch. So 883 00:42:56,335 --> 00:42:57,815 You're putting a pond in there? Yeah. 884 00:42:57,815 --> 00:42:59,095 Okay. It'll be a dry pond. 885 00:42:59,155 --> 00:43:02,055 So it's meant to drain in between storms. 886 00:43:02,485 --> 00:43:03,615 It's enough capacity. 887 00:43:03,715 --> 00:43:06,495 So large storm events that'll fill up to the top 888 00:43:07,915 --> 00:43:09,695 and then drain, filter, drain, 889 00:43:09,795 --> 00:43:11,095 and then tie into the municipal 890 00:43:11,095 --> 00:43:12,095 System. 891 00:43:12,095 --> 00:43:14,095 Alright. That was my primary concerns. 892 00:43:14,415 --> 00:43:17,135 I did have one other thing that came up when 893 00:43:18,235 --> 00:43:20,335 the other man here was, was presenting. 894 00:43:20,335 --> 00:43:21,975 He mentioned one of your customers is defense. 895 00:43:22,565 --> 00:43:25,615 What kinds of things are you making for the military here? 896 00:43:26,395 --> 00:43:27,855 Excuse me. Pressure vessels. That's 897 00:43:27,855 --> 00:43:28,855 All we're Make here. 898 00:43:28,855 --> 00:43:29,775 Really not germane to this 899 00:43:30,485 --> 00:43:31,485 Process. 900 00:43:31,485 --> 00:43:32,415 I, I was just wondering. 901 00:43:32,685 --> 00:43:34,695 I'll ask the, the applicant not to answer that. 902 00:43:35,965 --> 00:43:36,255 Okay. 903 00:43:41,155 --> 00:43:42,295 Any other comments 904 00:43:42,395 --> 00:43:44,895 or questions from the audience or anyone online? 905 00:43:46,075 --> 00:43:47,455 Mr. Chair Seeing gun rise 906 00:43:47,475 --> 00:43:48,475 Online? 907 00:43:48,475 --> 00:43:50,135 Okay. Back to the board then. 908 00:43:50,835 --> 00:43:54,775 Any other thoughts come to mind? Questions, comments? 909 00:43:57,235 --> 00:43:58,495 No. Okay. Motion 910 00:43:58,555 --> 00:43:59,555 To close the public hearing. 911 00:43:59,635 --> 00:44:02,935 Second, we have a motion to close on public hearing 912 00:44:03,955 --> 00:44:06,135 by Mby, second by pier. 913 00:44:06,135 --> 00:44:09,535 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Public hearing is closed. 914 00:44:11,075 --> 00:44:13,535 So let's move on to discussion of waivers. 915 00:44:14,715 --> 00:44:16,975 All right, so this is the one 916 00:44:16,975 --> 00:44:18,575 where we're removing the top waiver 917 00:44:18,595 --> 00:44:20,255 and then we're adding the one about parking. 918 00:44:21,675 --> 00:44:25,335 Mr. Chair, I moved to Gran Waiver from LDCR section one 70 919 00:44:25,445 --> 00:44:28,575 dash 26 point a 14 920 00:44:29,155 --> 00:44:31,685 to not provide vertical granite curbing throughout the 921 00:44:31,685 --> 00:44:34,445 project in lieu of either slip formed concrete 922 00:44:34,445 --> 00:44:35,885 where VGC is required 923 00:44:36,385 --> 00:44:39,165 and for use of Cape Cod style curb along the perimeter 924 00:44:39,165 --> 00:44:42,245 as shown on the plans after review of the waiver request, 925 00:44:42,245 --> 00:44:43,765 the bore finds the strict conformity 926 00:44:43,765 --> 00:44:45,805 of the regulations would pose an unnecessary hardship 927 00:44:45,805 --> 00:44:48,165 to the applicant and the waiver would not be contrary 928 00:44:48,165 --> 00:44:50,085 to the spirit intent of the regulations. 929 00:44:51,985 --> 00:44:53,045 And we're gonna add a waiver. 930 00:44:54,185 --> 00:44:56,645 Let, let's actually talk about that one first. 931 00:44:58,185 --> 00:44:59,565 Can we get a second? Second. 932 00:45:00,185 --> 00:45:02,885 So moved by Malibu, seconded by Pier to grant a waiver 933 00:45:03,065 --> 00:45:07,125 for granite curbing before Mr. 934 00:45:07,415 --> 00:45:09,285 Grice, who's not here to defend himself. 935 00:45:10,525 --> 00:45:13,245 I know he may be watching, he may be watching 936 00:45:13,265 --> 00:45:14,285 or watching them replay. 937 00:45:14,785 --> 00:45:16,565 Can you give us some history on 938 00:45:17,545 --> 00:45:20,605 why we require granite curbing in industrial parks 939 00:45:20,825 --> 00:45:24,485 and why We seemingly almost always grant waivers. It's, 940 00:45:24,705 --> 00:45:27,605 To be honest, it is on the list of things that we need to 941 00:45:28,115 --> 00:45:29,645 take a hard look at and update. 942 00:45:30,565 --> 00:45:32,085 Vertical granite curb is, you know, 943 00:45:32,225 --> 00:45:34,965 in subdivisions along the roadways to help with drainage 944 00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:37,645 and all of that in private sites. 945 00:45:37,745 --> 00:45:39,525 It, it, it's a holdover from 946 00:45:40,475 --> 00:45:41,475 Fred Tompkins. 947 00:45:41,475 --> 00:45:43,285 Prior. Yeah. Prior. Yeah. Fred 948 00:45:43,285 --> 00:45:44,725 Tompkins and Dave Grice. Yeah. 949 00:45:45,275 --> 00:45:48,365 Yeah. Well, Dave, Dave Ney wanted it on the buildings, so, 950 00:45:48,665 --> 00:45:52,925 but yeah, I I believe it's a holdover from a prior time when 951 00:45:53,465 --> 00:45:55,445 we wanted to drainage, 952 00:45:55,705 --> 00:45:58,885 the ways you can handle drainage have changed over time and 953 00:45:58,885 --> 00:46:01,005 before it was like, let's put these curbs up 954 00:46:01,005 --> 00:46:02,165 to channel it this way. 955 00:46:02,225 --> 00:46:07,045 So it goes here in private sites, we're not maintaining it. 956 00:46:07,265 --> 00:46:10,485 It, the applicant will be maintaining the site 957 00:46:10,585 --> 00:46:14,645 and it is not necessary, especially for this application. 958 00:46:16,265 --> 00:46:19,005 Mr. Foli, does public works concur with this waiver? 959 00:46:23,095 --> 00:46:24,365 We're fine with it, yeah. Okay. 960 00:46:24,405 --> 00:46:26,085 I mean, we, we prefer vertical grand 961 00:46:26,085 --> 00:46:29,325 and all our roadways, it holds up better to the, the plowing 962 00:46:29,325 --> 00:46:31,525 that goes on the way we plow our roads. 963 00:46:31,585 --> 00:46:36,085 But if they are managing a private site 964 00:46:36,105 --> 00:46:39,765 and treating their site, then they can be responsible 965 00:46:39,765 --> 00:46:43,885 for their privately maintained curb or berm or 966 00:46:43,885 --> 00:46:45,485 however they wanna treat it. Okay. 967 00:46:45,555 --> 00:46:48,925 Very good. I guess since we've moved this one separately, 968 00:46:48,925 --> 00:46:50,005 let's vote on it separately. 969 00:46:50,025 --> 00:46:54,885 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? 970 00:46:54,985 --> 00:46:59,805 Yes. Mr. Ey? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. 971 00:47:00,035 --> 00:47:02,525 Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. Chair votes? Yes. 972 00:47:03,145 --> 00:47:04,725 And we have other waiver requests. 973 00:47:04,755 --> 00:47:08,085 Yeah. Mr. Chair, we moved a grand waiver from LDCR section 974 00:47:08,265 --> 00:47:12,085 one 70 dash 63 C four 975 00:47:12,665 --> 00:47:14,285 to permit 47 parking spaces 976 00:47:14,285 --> 00:47:15,925 where the regulation requires 54. 977 00:47:16,695 --> 00:47:17,845 After review of the waiver, 978 00:47:18,425 --> 00:47:20,925 the board finds its specific circumstances relative 979 00:47:20,925 --> 00:47:23,325 to the plan or conditions of the land and such. 980 00:47:23,325 --> 00:47:25,805 Plan indicate the waiver will properly carry out the spirit 981 00:47:25,805 --> 00:47:27,565 and intent of the regulations. Second, 982 00:47:28,455 --> 00:47:32,165 Moved by Malory, seconded by Pier to grant 983 00:47:33,165 --> 00:47:36,045 a waiver as, as read. Any discussion 984 00:47:36,745 --> 00:47:38,085 On Mr. Chase? 985 00:47:38,235 --> 00:47:39,485 Just to have it clear and on the record. 986 00:47:39,945 --> 00:47:41,485 Excuse me, you're not gonna have any 987 00:47:42,475 --> 00:47:44,245 walk-in retail, anything like that. 988 00:47:44,345 --> 00:47:47,885 The only other than employees that's coming on the site is 989 00:47:48,685 --> 00:47:49,845 customer of when they come to check 990 00:47:49,845 --> 00:47:51,045 their product and accept that. 991 00:47:51,195 --> 00:47:52,965 Correct? It's, it's not a retail operat. 992 00:47:53,105 --> 00:47:55,685 You're not gonna have have people coming in just at random. 993 00:47:55,795 --> 00:47:58,005 It's gonna be pretty much set. Yeah. Correct. 994 00:47:58,545 --> 00:48:00,925 You feel you by most likely by appointment only. 995 00:48:00,925 --> 00:48:02,805 And it's only about 20 employees. Yes. Okay. 996 00:48:03,625 --> 00:48:04,845 That's all I have, Mr. Chair. 997 00:48:04,845 --> 00:48:06,845 Alright, any other comments, questions, 998 00:48:07,785 --> 00:48:09,125 if not on the motion? 999 00:48:09,265 --> 00:48:14,005 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. 1000 00:48:14,445 --> 00:48:18,565 Mousy? Yes. Mr. Church Cello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? 1001 00:48:18,585 --> 00:48:23,045 Yes. Chair votes yes on the matter of architectural design. 1002 00:48:24,105 --> 00:48:26,445 Mr. Chair, I move to find that pursuant 1003 00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:30,325 to LDCR one 70 dash 85 that the application 1004 00:48:30,345 --> 00:48:32,765 as presented demonstrates substantial compliance 1005 00:48:32,765 --> 00:48:34,685 with the architectural design regulations. 1006 00:48:35,235 --> 00:48:37,685 This property is located in the industrial two zoning 1007 00:48:38,045 --> 00:48:40,485 district and meets a medium high level of compliance 1008 00:48:40,485 --> 00:48:44,125 as outlined in section one 70 dash 84 3 1009 00:48:46,175 --> 00:48:50,165 Moved by Melody, seconded by Palatir to 1010 00:48:51,155 --> 00:48:52,925 make findings that the architectural design 1011 00:48:52,995 --> 00:48:54,325 regulations have been met. 1012 00:48:54,785 --> 00:48:58,845 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. 1013 00:48:59,905 --> 00:49:04,765 Mr. Ey? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Er Yes. Mr. Maby? 1014 00:49:04,865 --> 00:49:08,645 Yes. And the chair votes Yes. Findings a fact. 1015 00:49:09,465 --> 00:49:12,925 Mr. Chair, the board finds the proposed plan provides safe 1016 00:49:12,925 --> 00:49:15,845 and efficient vehicular and pedestrian access and the design 1017 00:49:15,865 --> 00:49:17,445 and construction of the access ways 1018 00:49:17,465 --> 00:49:18,725 and walkways are adequate 1019 00:49:18,725 --> 00:49:20,645 to accommodate the anticipated volume 1020 00:49:20,665 --> 00:49:22,605 of traffic proposed by the development. 1021 00:49:24,945 --> 00:49:28,005 Second, the, oh, sorry. Sorry. 1022 00:49:28,005 --> 00:49:30,365 That's my fault. Sorry. The board finds the proposed 1023 00:49:30,365 --> 00:49:31,925 parking plan is adequate for the site 1024 00:49:31,925 --> 00:49:34,045 and meets the parking density requirements for the use. 1025 00:49:34,585 --> 00:49:36,805 The board finds the landscape plan meets 1026 00:49:36,805 --> 00:49:37,845 the intent of the regulations. 1027 00:49:38,545 --> 00:49:40,525 The board finds the stormwater management 1028 00:49:40,545 --> 00:49:41,645 as proposed is designed 1029 00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:43,365 to control the post-development runoff 1030 00:49:43,365 --> 00:49:45,525 so it does not exceed pre-development runoff. 1031 00:49:46,345 --> 00:49:49,245 The board finds the utility construction standards are met. 1032 00:49:50,025 --> 00:49:53,045 The board finds exterior lighting, snow storage provisions, 1033 00:49:53,065 --> 00:49:56,045 and erosion and sediment control provisions are adequate. 1034 00:49:56,825 --> 00:49:59,685 The board finds the proposal for storage of solid waste 1035 00:49:59,745 --> 00:50:01,765 and disposal of waste conforms with any 1036 00:50:01,765 --> 00:50:04,765 and all applicable local, state and federal regulations. 1037 00:50:05,225 --> 00:50:07,645 And the applicant has provided reasonable safeguards 1038 00:50:07,885 --> 00:50:09,965 ensuring such waste will not become an undue threat 1039 00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:12,405 to the environment, nor create an undue nuisance. 1040 00:50:12,965 --> 00:50:15,125 I move to agree with the above noted findings of fact. 1041 00:50:15,425 --> 00:50:16,425 Second 1042 00:50:17,055 --> 00:50:19,325 Moved by Melanie, second by Pelletier 1043 00:50:19,345 --> 00:50:20,445 to make findings of fact. 1044 00:50:20,585 --> 00:50:24,325 Any discussion on that? If not Mr. Chase? Yes. 1045 00:50:25,025 --> 00:50:29,805 Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Ey? Yes. Mr. 1046 00:50:30,085 --> 00:50:34,525 Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. Chair votes? Yes. 1047 00:50:35,625 --> 00:50:37,445 And on the approval, 1048 00:50:38,545 --> 00:50:39,545 Mr. 1049 00:50:39,545 --> 00:50:40,405 Chair, after review and deliberation 1050 00:50:40,405 --> 00:50:44,205 of the site plan application for PID oh 8 0 0 1 dash 1051 00:50:44,745 --> 00:50:48,165 oh oh 2 0 0 3 EPSI Inc. 1052 00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:50,845 The board finds the applicant has satisfied the general 1053 00:50:50,845 --> 00:50:53,645 requirements of the Land Development Control regulations 1054 00:50:54,145 --> 00:50:56,245 or in cases where the regulation cannot be met, 1055 00:50:56,465 --> 00:50:58,165 has satisfied the waiver requirements. 1056 00:50:58,595 --> 00:51:01,525 Therefore the motion is to approve pursuant 1057 00:51:01,525 --> 00:51:06,205 to RSA 6 76 4 Roman one completed 1058 00:51:06,205 --> 00:51:08,005 application with the following conditions. 1059 00:51:08,805 --> 00:51:12,765 Conditions precedent comply with the VHB review letters 1060 00:51:13,355 --> 00:51:14,885 subject to owner's signature. 1061 00:51:15,745 --> 00:51:16,885 Update the plan set 1062 00:51:16,905 --> 00:51:19,365 to specify the insert a t detail which was 1063 00:51:19,925 --> 00:51:23,005 provided via email on 5 5 20 26. 1064 00:51:23,545 --> 00:51:25,445 On the plans and in the details section, 1065 00:51:26,185 --> 00:51:29,165 the team must be installed at an angle no greater than 45 1066 00:51:29,165 --> 00:51:33,445 degrees to the existing 15 inch P-V-C-S-D-R 1067 00:51:33,445 --> 00:51:34,805 35 sewer main. 1068 00:51:35,705 --> 00:51:39,885 The entire six inch P-V-C-S-D-R 35 sewer service shall be 1069 00:51:39,885 --> 00:51:42,325 realigned for a straighter line to the building. 1070 00:51:42,465 --> 00:51:45,005 And note that the town inspector shall determine the final 1071 00:51:45,325 --> 00:51:46,325 location of Cleanouts. 1072 00:51:47,465 --> 00:51:49,405 Add a note to the plan specifying that 1073 00:51:50,605 --> 00:51:53,525 UTS shall be the sole contract authorized by the town 1074 00:51:53,525 --> 00:51:56,725 of Derry to install the inserted contract number 1075 00:51:57,365 --> 00:51:59,965 provided by email on May 5th, 2026. 1076 00:52:02,435 --> 00:52:05,365 Note on infiltration system oh one details 1077 00:52:05,365 --> 00:52:06,925 that backfill material below 1078 00:52:06,985 --> 00:52:08,645 and throughout shall be three quarter inch 1079 00:52:08,645 --> 00:52:09,765 double wash stone. 1080 00:52:10,945 --> 00:52:12,885 The iron rod, which the property corner, 1081 00:52:13,015 --> 00:52:15,685 which should be on the northeast corner near the tip oh sign 1082 00:52:15,685 --> 00:52:16,765 was not found on site. 1083 00:52:17,155 --> 00:52:21,445 Does boundary marker be reset? Add a note to the plan. 1084 00:52:21,445 --> 00:52:23,885 Specifying that cutting in a new water main into the 1085 00:52:24,125 --> 00:52:26,685 existing water main will affect several businesses along a 1086 00:52:26,685 --> 00:52:28,285 street and require a nighttime shutdown 1087 00:52:29,315 --> 00:52:30,885 establish appropriate escrow 1088 00:52:30,905 --> 00:52:32,125 as required to complete the project. 1089 00:52:33,075 --> 00:52:34,805 Note approved waivers on the plan. 1090 00:52:35,785 --> 00:52:38,085 Obtain written approval from their planning director 1091 00:52:38,085 --> 00:52:41,205 designee that the GIS submission is received and is operable 1092 00:52:41,205 --> 00:52:42,765 and it complies with LDCR. 1093 00:52:42,765 --> 00:52:45,445 Section one 70 dash 61 C. 1094 00:52:46,435 --> 00:52:48,285 Subject to receipt of applicable state 1095 00:52:48,285 --> 00:52:52,005 or local permits relating to the project I-E-A-O-T building, 1096 00:52:52,005 --> 00:52:54,045 department, fire department, water, 1097 00:52:54,045 --> 00:52:55,965 wastewater, driveway, et cetera. 1098 00:52:56,935 --> 00:52:59,285 Conditions precedent shall be met within six months. 1099 00:52:59,985 --> 00:53:02,445 And then the loan condition, subsequent subject 1100 00:53:02,465 --> 00:53:04,405 to onsite inspection by the towns engineer. 1101 00:53:04,505 --> 00:53:05,505 Second 1102 00:53:06,575 --> 00:53:09,165 Moved by mal, be seconded by Palantir 1103 00:53:09,225 --> 00:53:11,085 to grant conditional approval. 1104 00:53:11,225 --> 00:53:14,525 Any questions or discussion from the board? 1105 00:53:15,585 --> 00:53:19,965 If not, Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. 1106 00:53:20,425 --> 00:53:25,285 Mr. Mousy? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. 1107 00:53:25,285 --> 00:53:27,285 Chair votes? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. 1108 00:53:27,315 --> 00:53:29,405 Welcome, welcome to Dairy. 1109 00:53:38,715 --> 00:53:43,605 Next item on the agenda, see if I got, 1110 00:53:43,605 --> 00:53:43,805 this 1111 00:53:49,065 --> 00:53:50,965 is Dennis Lincoln Jr. 1112 00:53:51,425 --> 00:53:56,365 And Karen Lincoln Parcel ID 0 2 1 2 6 10 Craven Terrace 1113 00:53:56,985 --> 00:54:01,325 and Richard and Marie Louise Brownell family Trust 1114 00:54:02,045 --> 00:54:05,885 PID 0 2 1 2 7 12 Craven 1115 00:54:05,885 --> 00:54:07,325 Terrace for a lot. 1116 00:54:07,325 --> 00:54:08,325 Line adjustment. 1117 00:54:09,435 --> 00:54:12,165 Okay. Thank you. The purpose of the plan is 1118 00:54:12,165 --> 00:54:16,645 to create an equal land swap of 0.149 acres between 10 1119 00:54:16,645 --> 00:54:17,925 and 12 Craven terrace. 1120 00:54:18,385 --> 00:54:21,445 The lots are located in the medium density residential 1121 00:54:21,685 --> 00:54:24,245 district, which requires a minimum lot area of one acre 1122 00:54:24,245 --> 00:54:26,205 and 125 feet of frontage. 1123 00:54:26,925 --> 00:54:30,165 A variance was granted on December 18th, 2025 1124 00:54:30,665 --> 00:54:33,805 to permit 10 craven terrace to decrease the frontage 1125 00:54:33,805 --> 00:54:37,125 to 100 feet as a result of the proposed lot line adjustment. 1126 00:54:37,125 --> 00:54:39,605 That was case 25 dash 1 46. 1127 00:54:40,385 --> 00:54:42,245 The two lots will change as follows. 1128 00:54:42,785 --> 00:54:46,125 10 Craven terrace will decrease frontage to 100 feet. 1129 00:54:46,465 --> 00:54:48,965 The land area will remain the same after the change. 1130 00:54:49,705 --> 00:54:54,245 12 Craven terrace will increase frontage to 154.36 feet 1131 00:54:54,245 --> 00:54:55,925 with the land area remaining the same. 1132 00:54:55,925 --> 00:54:59,125 After the change the driveway providing access 1133 00:54:59,145 --> 00:55:01,365 to 10 Craven Terrace will now be fully on 1134 00:55:01,365 --> 00:55:02,445 the lots own frontage. 1135 00:55:02,835 --> 00:55:04,965 Both lots are on private well and septic. 1136 00:55:05,705 --> 00:55:07,565 The proposed lot line is not fully 1137 00:55:07,565 --> 00:55:09,125 perpendicular to the roadway. 1138 00:55:09,625 --> 00:55:11,245 So a waiver will be required 1139 00:55:11,825 --> 00:55:14,005 and the recommendation would be 1140 00:55:14,105 --> 00:55:17,445 to review the proposed lot line adjustment in waiver 1141 00:55:18,165 --> 00:55:20,805 Regional impact does not apply to lot line adjustments. 1142 00:55:25,985 --> 00:55:27,555 Okay. I think I understand. 1143 00:55:31,695 --> 00:55:33,235 And once you open the public hearing, 1144 00:55:33,235 --> 00:55:35,315 Brandon Wing from promised Land surveys 1145 00:55:35,315 --> 00:55:36,395 here to help present. 1146 00:55:36,935 --> 00:55:37,155 So 1147 00:55:42,205 --> 00:55:43,715 we're gonna do jurisdiction first. 1148 00:55:44,305 --> 00:55:45,555 Yeah, let's go with that 1149 00:55:45,775 --> 00:55:46,775 Mr. 1150 00:55:46,775 --> 00:55:47,715 Chair. I move to accept jurisdiction 1151 00:55:47,715 --> 00:55:48,995 of a lot line adjustment plan 1152 00:55:48,995 --> 00:55:50,875 before the board for Dennis and Karen Lincoln. 1153 00:55:51,595 --> 00:55:56,435 PID oh 2 1 2 6 10 Craven Terrace and Richard 1154 00:55:56,615 --> 00:55:57,915 and Marie Louisie, 1155 00:55:57,915 --> 00:56:01,795 Brownwell family Trust PID oh 2 1 2 7 12 1156 00:56:01,975 --> 00:56:03,195 Craven Terrace. Second 1157 00:56:04,085 --> 00:56:05,395 Moved by Malibu, seconded 1158 00:56:05,395 --> 00:56:07,315 by Pier to open the public hearing. 1159 00:56:07,595 --> 00:56:11,155 Everyone in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Public hearing is open. 1160 00:56:11,625 --> 00:56:13,195 Oops. That was jurisdiction. 1161 00:56:14,115 --> 00:56:15,275 Hmm. That was jurisdiction. 1162 00:56:15,495 --> 00:56:16,755 I'm sorry. Jurisdiction. I'm sorry. 1163 00:56:19,935 --> 00:56:21,715 Motion to open the Public hearing. Yeah. 1164 00:56:25,185 --> 00:56:28,445 Second. Motion by Maldy, seconded 1165 00:56:28,445 --> 00:56:29,765 by Peir to open the public hearing. 1166 00:56:30,345 --> 00:56:32,765 All those favor to say Aye. Aye. Alright. 1167 00:56:32,765 --> 00:56:33,845 Public hearing is now open. 1168 00:56:35,595 --> 00:56:37,325 Good evening. My name is Brandon 1169 00:56:37,325 --> 00:56:38,445 Wing from Promise Land Survey. 1170 00:56:39,705 --> 00:56:42,605 Mr. Du did an awesome job introducing the project. 1171 00:56:43,965 --> 00:56:45,525 I really don't have a ton to add. 1172 00:56:46,605 --> 00:56:49,525 I will just reiterate that the purpose 1173 00:56:49,545 --> 00:56:52,765 of the lot line adjustment is to sort 1174 00:56:52,765 --> 00:56:55,445 of clean up an existing area 1175 00:56:55,455 --> 00:56:58,445 where the driveway encroaches across property line. 1176 00:56:58,925 --> 00:57:00,325 I believe this property, this, 1177 00:57:02,345 --> 00:57:07,085 the dwelling was constructed in 1967, really close 1178 00:57:07,105 --> 00:57:08,125 to the property line 1179 00:57:09,025 --> 00:57:12,085 and the driveway was constructed over the property line. 1180 00:57:12,865 --> 00:57:16,925 So the, our, our purpose was to kind of clean 1181 00:57:16,925 --> 00:57:17,965 that up a little bit. 1182 00:57:23,515 --> 00:57:24,925 It's fairly simple. 1183 00:57:25,365 --> 00:57:28,845 I I believe the equal land area swap the, 1184 00:57:28,865 --> 00:57:31,965 the lots will remain the same area that they currently are. 1185 00:57:34,745 --> 00:57:37,245 And that's, that's as much as I have. 1186 00:57:38,115 --> 00:57:42,645 Alright. Any comments or questions from the board? 1187 00:57:44,765 --> 00:57:47,205 I mean, it's kind of straightforward right? 1188 00:57:47,385 --> 00:57:51,165 And the side setback gives you plenty 15 feet. Right. 1189 00:57:52,235 --> 00:57:54,445 This just makes sense to me 1190 00:57:54,445 --> 00:57:56,805 because down the road, you know, 1191 00:57:56,805 --> 00:58:00,125 you don't want a boundary line right down a, a driveway. 1192 00:58:00,625 --> 00:58:01,925 So it kind of cleans it right up. 1193 00:58:04,675 --> 00:58:07,055 Anyone else? Any members 1194 00:58:07,115 --> 00:58:09,295 of the public have comments or questions on this? 1195 00:58:09,635 --> 00:58:12,535 Either in the audience or online? Mr. 1196 00:58:12,535 --> 00:58:13,975 Chair Rise online? 1197 00:58:14,395 --> 00:58:18,415 Anyone in the audience have a anything? Say no? Okay. 1198 00:58:18,415 --> 00:58:19,415 Back to the board. 1199 00:58:21,175 --> 00:58:25,015 I have one question. Why could that front 1200 00:58:25,965 --> 00:58:27,735 line not be perpendicular to the road? 1201 00:58:29,005 --> 00:58:31,735 Just to try to maintain as close 1202 00:58:31,735 --> 00:58:33,335 to the required frontage as we could. 1203 00:58:41,775 --> 00:58:43,165 Which sec Which section of, 1204 00:58:43,165 --> 00:58:44,765 of the boundary are you talking about? 1205 00:58:44,765 --> 00:58:46,445 The one that the the short one? 1206 00:58:47,105 --> 00:58:49,165 Yes. Where, where it comes right off the road. Yeah, 1207 00:58:50,315 --> 00:58:51,315 That one right there. 1208 00:58:52,195 --> 00:58:54,285 Also trying to kind of maintain that structure. 1209 00:58:54,355 --> 00:58:56,365 Well it looks like there's also 1210 00:58:57,365 --> 00:58:58,765 A Road, a shed and a fence there. 1211 00:59:00,475 --> 00:59:03,485 Yeah. The, the fence I think he's asking, so 1212 00:59:03,485 --> 00:59:06,085 that first course is 29.16 feet. 1213 00:59:06,505 --> 00:59:08,885 You know, I think he's asking why we didn't go from 1214 00:59:08,885 --> 00:59:11,845 that first angle point perpendicular into craven. 1215 00:59:12,365 --> 00:59:13,925 'cause it would've hit the fence in the shed. 1216 00:59:14,625 --> 00:59:17,045 No, we would've, we would've cleared it by, 1217 00:59:17,225 --> 00:59:18,525 by a greater distance. 1218 00:59:18,915 --> 00:59:23,325 It's just a matter of trying to maintain a hundred feet on, 1219 00:59:23,825 --> 00:59:27,325 on the Lincoln's property, which is 10 craven terrace. 1220 00:59:29,345 --> 00:59:31,925 And additionally, I, I don't think they want, 1221 00:59:31,955 --> 00:59:34,525 they were interested in reducing their 1222 00:59:34,525 --> 00:59:36,045 frontage more than they had to. 1223 00:59:36,745 --> 00:59:38,725 So it seemed easier to request a waiver 1224 00:59:38,865 --> 00:59:40,885 for the, the perpendicular. 1225 00:59:41,105 --> 00:59:42,925 But yeah, I'm, I'm just looking at where it, 1226 00:59:42,925 --> 00:59:44,005 it puts in a dog leg. 1227 00:59:44,005 --> 00:59:46,125 It says the shed and fence have to be moved anyway. 1228 00:59:47,185 --> 00:59:50,725 Oh. Why, why couldn't that have come straight back? 1229 00:59:50,745 --> 00:59:55,725 You know, you would've maintained the same frontage 1230 00:59:55,725 --> 00:59:58,325 as what you have now, but you would've had a perpendicular 1231 00:59:58,355 --> 00:59:59,765 line and you wouldn't have needed the 1232 00:59:59,765 --> 01:00:03,805 waiver. You understand what I'm saying? 1233 01:00:04,585 --> 01:00:07,885 Not entirely. Are you asking the, the first course, 1234 01:00:07,885 --> 01:00:10,765 which is 29.16 feet? Yes. That 1235 01:00:11,305 --> 01:00:13,405 If that came off perpendicular Yep. 1236 01:00:13,635 --> 01:00:15,645 From the street came straight back. Yep. 1237 01:00:15,665 --> 01:00:18,125 You made your intersect point further back. 1238 01:00:18,865 --> 01:00:22,245 So that came straight. 'cause the shed's gonna, to me, 1239 01:00:22,265 --> 01:00:24,285 it doesn't matter if that came straight back, 1240 01:00:24,305 --> 01:00:26,325 if the shed's still encroaching, the shed can be, 1241 01:00:26,335 --> 01:00:28,645 sheds can be moved, fences can be moved. 1242 01:00:28,815 --> 01:00:29,845 Right. Actually, as far 1243 01:00:29,845 --> 01:00:31,165 as I'm concerned, the driveway could have been moved. 1244 01:00:31,505 --> 01:00:33,525 But you could have brought that back 1245 01:00:34,355 --> 01:00:36,605 then you wouldn't have had that dog leg there. 1246 01:00:37,225 --> 01:00:39,005 The intersect point would've been further back 1247 01:00:39,005 --> 01:00:40,925 and you would've had a perpendicular line to the, 1248 01:00:41,025 --> 01:00:42,725 to the street not requiring a waiver. 1249 01:00:45,455 --> 01:00:49,925 Understood. I, I think, you know, as a survey firm, 1250 01:00:49,925 --> 01:00:51,245 we don't propose encroachments. 1251 01:00:51,265 --> 01:00:55,565 So it's a, it's a matter of either making them remove it 1252 01:00:55,625 --> 01:00:57,125 or trying to accommodate it 1253 01:00:57,125 --> 01:00:58,445 with a lot line adjustment. Well 1254 01:00:58,725 --> 01:00:59,725 I understand that. 1255 01:00:59,725 --> 01:01:01,365 It says right there in the notations it 1256 01:01:01,365 --> 01:01:02,525 says shedding fence to be moved. 1257 01:01:02,865 --> 01:01:04,245 So if they're gonna be moved anyway, 1258 01:01:04,665 --> 01:01:06,005 why do you have to have that like that? 1259 01:01:07,755 --> 01:01:11,165 Yeah. Is Is part of it to keep the land, the land area? 1260 01:01:11,465 --> 01:01:14,285 It was, it's always tricky to do a, 1261 01:01:14,345 --> 01:01:17,045 an equal land swap, an area swap. 1262 01:01:19,745 --> 01:01:22,325 And we always consider 1263 01:01:23,755 --> 01:01:26,565 countless options in trying to make this work with, 1264 01:01:27,225 --> 01:01:30,005 you know, both, both parties what they're happy with, 1265 01:01:30,005 --> 01:01:32,245 what they're willing to, what they're willing 1266 01:01:32,245 --> 01:01:33,845 to give up and receive. 1267 01:01:34,545 --> 01:01:38,645 So that I'm, that always has a lot to do with it. 1268 01:01:40,825 --> 01:01:45,545 I don't know why it's not more perpendicular other than 1269 01:01:46,325 --> 01:01:48,425 that's just kind of how it worked out for the area. 1270 01:01:54,295 --> 01:01:56,545 Well I tend to agree with Mr. Chase that, 1271 01:01:56,685 --> 01:01:57,865 you know, you got CAD tools. 1272 01:01:58,025 --> 01:01:59,625 I mean, you could have figured out a way 1273 01:01:59,625 --> 01:02:01,545 to make the equal area with 1274 01:02:02,265 --> 01:02:03,785 slightly different inflection points along 1275 01:02:03,785 --> 01:02:05,825 that already multiple point boundary. 1276 01:02:06,825 --> 01:02:09,785 You, you take the, the, 1277 01:02:10,765 --> 01:02:13,065 so the first one, you take the second one 1278 01:02:13,085 --> 01:02:14,585 and then you push that back a little bit. 1279 01:02:14,705 --> 01:02:15,745 I mean, you, you can adjust that. 1280 01:02:15,745 --> 01:02:18,425 So the question is, is it reasonable to rest, 1281 01:02:18,685 --> 01:02:20,605 to request the waiver if, 1282 01:02:20,625 --> 01:02:22,605 if you could have achieved the equal area 1283 01:02:23,785 --> 01:02:24,845 and not require the waiver. 1284 01:02:26,405 --> 01:02:29,485 I mean, waivers technically required some hardship 1285 01:02:29,865 --> 01:02:31,445 and the hardship has to be something more 1286 01:02:31,445 --> 01:02:32,565 than, yeah, we didn't wanna do it. 1287 01:02:32,985 --> 01:02:35,285 Oh and no, it's not that we didn't want to do it. 1288 01:02:35,555 --> 01:02:38,885 It's just very tricky to make it work with 1289 01:02:38,985 --> 01:02:43,085 as few angle points in a line as possible instead of, 1290 01:02:43,185 --> 01:02:45,245 you know, a bunch of 'em. 1291 01:02:45,465 --> 01:02:46,525 We try to minimize it 1292 01:02:46,525 --> 01:02:48,125 and already it's, 1293 01:02:50,185 --> 01:02:52,325 it doesn't create a super odd shaped lot, 1294 01:02:52,465 --> 01:02:54,725 but it's also a, a little bit odd shaped. 1295 01:02:55,395 --> 01:02:59,285 Yeah. Anyone else wanna 1296 01:02:59,285 --> 01:03:00,605 weigh, weigh in on this one? 1297 01:03:02,605 --> 01:03:03,965 I, I will also say that it, 1298 01:03:03,985 --> 01:03:05,765 it also doesn't follow our recommendations 1299 01:03:05,765 --> 01:03:07,365 that all lots be rectangular. 1300 01:03:07,425 --> 01:03:08,425 So there's that. 1301 01:03:11,795 --> 01:03:15,405 Yeah. Alright, 1302 01:03:16,745 --> 01:03:20,565 are we done on, on the, on that question? 1303 01:03:21,915 --> 01:03:24,445 Yeah. Motion to close the public hearing. 1304 01:03:24,625 --> 01:03:28,405 Second. Okay. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. 1305 01:03:28,405 --> 01:03:30,005 Motion public hearing is closed. 1306 01:03:33,065 --> 01:03:35,405 So now we can actually formally discuss 1307 01:03:35,715 --> 01:03:37,125 that point under the waivers. 1308 01:03:37,825 --> 01:03:41,325 Mr. Chair, I moved a grant waiver from LDCR section one 70 1309 01:03:41,435 --> 01:03:44,965 dash 25 2 to allow a lot line 1310 01:03:44,965 --> 01:03:47,245 that is not a substantial right angle to the street. 1311 01:03:47,655 --> 01:03:49,085 After review of the waiver request, 1312 01:03:49,085 --> 01:03:51,405 the board finds its specific circumstances relative 1313 01:03:51,405 --> 01:03:53,885 to the plan or conditions of the land and such. 1314 01:03:53,915 --> 01:03:56,325 Plan indicate that the waiver will properly carry out the 1315 01:03:56,325 --> 01:03:57,845 spirit and intent of the regulations. 1316 01:03:58,105 --> 01:03:59,105 Second, 1317 01:04:00,045 --> 01:04:03,005 It has been moved by Malibu, seconded by pier to grant 1318 01:04:03,785 --> 01:04:05,605 the waiver as requested. 1319 01:04:06,225 --> 01:04:09,045 Any formal debate now that we're actually in the motion? No. 1320 01:04:09,985 --> 01:04:13,885 At the risk of asking a foolish question shed 1321 01:04:13,885 --> 01:04:14,885 and fence to be moved. 1322 01:04:14,945 --> 01:04:18,285 What's the timeline I suppose to, to move this? 1323 01:04:20,065 --> 01:04:21,405 I'm, I'm unaware of 1324 01:04:21,405 --> 01:04:22,405 That. 1325 01:04:22,405 --> 01:04:26,395 Yeah, yeah. 1326 01:04:26,495 --> 01:04:29,755 I'm not sure that's actually part of our jurisdiction. 1327 01:04:29,915 --> 01:04:34,315 I mean, right now they have a, a driveway that's encroaching 1328 01:04:34,315 --> 01:04:37,475 and if after the adjustment they just have a a, a shed 1329 01:04:37,475 --> 01:04:38,635 that's encroaching, it's like, eh, 1330 01:04:38,725 --> 01:04:39,755 maybe that's an improvement. 1331 01:04:39,755 --> 01:04:40,755 I don't know. 1332 01:04:41,615 --> 01:04:43,235 The shed's been there for 30 years. 1333 01:04:45,255 --> 01:04:47,315 I'm not, I'm more concerned 1334 01:04:47,315 --> 01:04:49,795 with the driveway than the shed. I mean, but she's 1335 01:04:49,875 --> 01:04:50,875 Been here for 50 years. 1336 01:04:51,685 --> 01:04:53,955 Especially if they resale value, you know, 1337 01:04:55,195 --> 01:04:59,455 I mean I I'm, Hmm, I'm inclined 1338 01:04:59,455 --> 01:05:00,855 to support Mr. Chase on this 1339 01:05:01,015 --> 01:05:04,335 'cause I don't, I think this is not a, this is not a a, 1340 01:05:04,415 --> 01:05:07,455 a hardship sufficient to require granting of, of a waiver. 1341 01:05:07,615 --> 01:05:10,495 'cause isn't an easy way to accomplish it without any other 1342 01:05:11,305 --> 01:05:12,695 major downsides that I see. 1343 01:05:13,315 --> 01:05:13,535 So 1344 01:05:18,765 --> 01:05:19,465 any other comments? 1345 01:05:20,695 --> 01:05:22,145 Well, we'll take a vote. Mr. Chase. 1346 01:05:22,925 --> 01:05:26,945 No, I find that the, there is evidence that 1347 01:05:27,015 --> 01:05:28,825 that line could be made perpendicular 1348 01:05:29,205 --> 01:05:30,665 and still have an equal land swap 1349 01:05:30,665 --> 01:05:32,625 without the need for the waiver. 1350 01:05:34,805 --> 01:05:39,145 Mr. Wood? No. For the same reasons as Mr. Chase. Mr. 1351 01:05:39,445 --> 01:05:43,745 Menini, I'm gonna vote yes. Yes. Okay. 1352 01:05:44,805 --> 01:05:48,465 Mr. Mousy, I'm gonna vote yes. Mr. Ello. 1353 01:05:48,845 --> 01:05:53,585 Yes, it definitely improves both lots. Mr. Pier? 1354 01:05:53,885 --> 01:05:55,865 Yes. Mr. Maby? 1355 01:05:57,005 --> 01:06:00,225 Yes. And the chair will also vote? No. 1356 01:06:00,225 --> 01:06:05,185 I agree with Mr. Chase. It does not present a, a hardship 1357 01:06:05,785 --> 01:06:07,145 that cannot be easily overcome. 1358 01:06:08,605 --> 01:06:09,785 So what is our tally? 1359 01:06:10,705 --> 01:06:14,745 Five to three in favor? Hmm. Five to three in favor. 1360 01:06:14,895 --> 01:06:18,705 Okay, so the waiver has been granted findings of fact. 1361 01:06:20,445 --> 01:06:23,305 Mr. Chair, I move to find the proposed plan does not alter 1362 01:06:23,625 --> 01:06:26,025 existing conditions, which would affect access to the lots 1363 01:06:26,585 --> 01:06:27,665 ensuring the health, safety 1364 01:06:27,685 --> 01:06:30,025 and welfare of the neighborhood remains unchanged 1365 01:06:30,045 --> 01:06:31,905 as a result of the adjustment of the lot. 1366 01:06:31,905 --> 01:06:32,905 Line. 1367 01:06:35,605 --> 01:06:38,865 Second, moved by Maby, seconded by Pier 1368 01:06:38,965 --> 01:06:40,385 to make findings of fact. 1369 01:06:41,325 --> 01:06:46,225 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. 1370 01:06:46,325 --> 01:06:51,185 Mousey? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. 1371 01:06:51,235 --> 01:06:53,785 Chair votes? Yes. And on the approval, 1372 01:06:54,965 --> 01:06:55,965 Mr. 1373 01:06:55,965 --> 01:06:56,865 Chair, after review and deliberation 1374 01:06:56,865 --> 01:06:58,985 of a lot line adjustment application for the Dennis 1375 01:06:59,045 --> 01:07:03,945 and Karen Lincoln, PID oh 2 1 2 6 10 Craven 1376 01:07:03,945 --> 01:07:07,505 Terrace and Richard m Marie Louis Brownwell family Trust, 1377 01:07:07,985 --> 01:07:12,025 PID oh 2 1 2 7 12 Craven Terrace, 1378 01:07:12,445 --> 01:07:14,825 the board finds the applicants have satisfied the general 1379 01:07:14,825 --> 01:07:17,385 requirements of the land development control regulations 1380 01:07:17,845 --> 01:07:19,945 or in cases where the regulation cannot be met, 1381 01:07:19,965 --> 01:07:21,625 has satisfied the waiver requirements. 1382 01:07:22,215 --> 01:07:25,305 Therefore, the motion is to approve, approve pursuant 1383 01:07:25,305 --> 01:07:30,185 to RSA 6 76 4 Roman three expedited review 1384 01:07:30,375 --> 01:07:34,425 with the following conditions, conditions precedent, subject 1385 01:07:34,425 --> 01:07:37,425 to owner signatures, establish escrow for the setting 1386 01:07:37,425 --> 01:07:39,545 of bounds or certify the bounds have been set 1387 01:07:40,215 --> 01:07:41,665 note approved waivers on the plan. 1388 01:07:42,845 --> 01:07:45,665 Obtain written approval from the planning director designee 1389 01:07:45,665 --> 01:07:48,705 that the GIS submission is received and is operable 1390 01:07:48,725 --> 01:07:52,865 and it complies with LDCR section one 70 dash 24 C 1391 01:07:53,795 --> 01:07:56,385 submission of the appropriate recording fees payable 1392 01:07:56,385 --> 01:07:58,385 to the Rockingham County Registry of Deeds. 1393 01:07:58,815 --> 01:08:02,665 This includes a $25 L chip fee recording fees for the Mylar 1394 01:08:02,665 --> 01:08:04,905 and the notice of decision conditions. 1395 01:08:05,065 --> 01:08:06,825 Precedent shall be met within six months 1396 01:08:07,765 --> 01:08:10,745 and conditions subsequent subject to onsite inspection 1397 01:08:10,765 --> 01:08:11,825 by the towns engineer. 1398 01:08:12,285 --> 01:08:14,505 The documents reflecting conveyance of the lots 1399 01:08:14,505 --> 01:08:17,965 by de should be recorded at the Rockingham County Registry 1400 01:08:17,965 --> 01:08:20,205 of Deed sub subsequent to 1401 01:08:20,345 --> 01:08:22,325 or in conjunction with the final Mylar. 1402 01:08:22,325 --> 01:08:24,285 And a copy of the recorded deed should be 1403 01:08:24,485 --> 01:08:26,165 provided to the planning department for the file. 1404 01:08:26,305 --> 01:08:27,305 Second 1405 01:08:28,375 --> 01:08:31,845 Moved by Melanie, seconded by Peir to grant approval. 1406 01:08:32,745 --> 01:08:36,375 Mr. Chase? Yes. 1407 01:08:37,595 --> 01:08:42,415 Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. 1408 01:08:42,735 --> 01:08:47,615 Mousy? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Paler? Yes. Mr. Maldi? Yes. 1409 01:08:47,675 --> 01:08:50,615 And the chair votes? Yes. Great, thank you very much. 1410 01:08:51,145 --> 01:08:52,145 Thank you very much. 1411 01:08:53,665 --> 01:08:54,935 Might as well stay there Brandon. 1412 01:08:55,725 --> 01:08:59,175 Okay. Okay, 1413 01:08:59,175 --> 01:09:00,895 next item on the agenda 1414 01:09:02,795 --> 01:09:05,775 is Catherine MD Simone. 1415 01:09:06,235 --> 01:09:07,455 Did I get that familiar right. 1416 01:09:07,795 --> 01:09:12,495 Rev Gold Trust parcel ID 0 2 1 4 1 12 1417 01:09:12,685 --> 01:09:16,775 Milmore Road and Joanne Clark Dire Irre Trust 1418 01:09:18,055 --> 01:09:19,255 Property Trust on PID 1419 01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:23,535 0 3 1 0 6 28 Milmore Road. 1420 01:09:23,535 --> 01:09:25,015 Another lot line adjustment. 1421 01:09:25,765 --> 01:09:28,135 Okay, so the purpose of the plan is 1422 01:09:28,135 --> 01:09:31,655 to grant 28 Milmore Road an additional acre of land. 1423 01:09:32,235 --> 01:09:35,135 The lots are located in the Medium density residential 1424 01:09:35,455 --> 01:09:39,135 district, which requires a minimum lot acre of one acre 1425 01:09:39,155 --> 01:09:41,095 and 125 feet of frontage. 1426 01:09:41,515 --> 01:09:43,815 The two lots will change as follows. 12. 1427 01:09:43,815 --> 01:09:47,575 Milmore will decrease by one acre resulting in a lot 1428 01:09:47,575 --> 01:09:49,535 with 3.119 acres 1429 01:09:49,535 --> 01:09:53,775 of land 28 Milmore will gain one acre resulting in a lot 1430 01:09:53,775 --> 01:09:56,615 consisting of 4.644 acres of land. 1431 01:09:57,045 --> 01:09:59,415 Both lots are on private well and septic. 1432 01:09:59,725 --> 01:10:01,415 This is a fairly standard request 1433 01:10:01,475 --> 01:10:03,495 and does not result in any nonconformities 1434 01:10:03,495 --> 01:10:04,775 for either of the lots. 1435 01:10:05,115 --> 01:10:07,055 So the recommendation is to pro 1436 01:10:07,635 --> 01:10:09,775 to review the proposed lot line adjustment. 1437 01:10:10,175 --> 01:10:13,215 Regional impact does not apply to lot line adjustments. 1438 01:10:13,275 --> 01:10:17,855 As a reminder, and I will note that this one, it was, 1439 01:10:17,915 --> 01:10:21,815 it was a little confusing when you look at this plan, 1440 01:10:22,085 --> 01:10:23,695 Brandon can explain it better, 1441 01:10:24,315 --> 01:10:28,335 but you notice near the cul-de-sac on the left hand side 1442 01:10:28,335 --> 01:10:30,295 of the cul-de-sac, there's a line of trees. 1443 01:10:31,805 --> 01:10:36,215 That rectangular piece is actually part of 1444 01:10:38,275 --> 01:10:39,615 Map three, lot 1 0 6. 1445 01:10:39,995 --> 01:10:41,615 So that is part of their lot area. 1446 01:10:41,915 --> 01:10:45,655 The adjustment is taking place behind 1447 01:10:48,195 --> 01:10:49,975 Map two lot 1 43. 1448 01:10:50,915 --> 01:10:52,615 So part of a line is going away 1449 01:10:52,615 --> 01:10:54,695 and it's just being moved over to the left. 1450 01:10:55,915 --> 01:11:00,615 So Madam Director, I don't wanna presume that I can 1451 01:11:01,465 --> 01:11:04,655 speak with any authority like the register of deeds, 1452 01:11:04,655 --> 01:11:08,095 but I'm, I'm wondering if it might be wiser 1453 01:11:08,995 --> 01:11:13,205 on the PLA to have the lot line to be removed in some sort 1454 01:11:13,205 --> 01:11:17,565 of dashed indication rather than a solid line. 1455 01:11:17,725 --> 01:11:21,085 I mean there is text but then you've got two solid lines. 1456 01:11:21,245 --> 01:11:23,845 I think it might be less confusing if the lot line 1457 01:11:23,845 --> 01:11:25,845 to be removed we're, we're, were dashed as 1458 01:11:27,155 --> 01:11:28,485 that seem like a reasonable suggestion. 1459 01:11:31,035 --> 01:11:32,405 That would be a great suggestion. 1460 01:11:32,425 --> 01:11:34,445 We can add that as a condition. Okay. 1461 01:11:34,745 --> 01:11:37,925 Yep. Alright. So with that, 1462 01:11:38,005 --> 01:11:39,445 I think I understand what we're doing 1463 01:11:44,185 --> 01:11:45,185 Mr. 1464 01:11:45,185 --> 01:11:46,285 Chair. I move to accept jurisdiction 1465 01:11:46,285 --> 01:11:47,445 of lot line adjustment plan 1466 01:11:47,445 --> 01:11:51,605 before the board for Catherine MD revocable trust. 1467 01:11:51,925 --> 01:11:56,205 PI oh 2 1 42 12 Milmore Road 1468 01:11:56,385 --> 01:11:57,405 and Joanne Clark, 1469 01:11:57,675 --> 01:11:59,925 irrevocable property Trust PID oh 1470 01:11:59,925 --> 01:12:02,885 3 1 0 6 28 Milmore Road. 1471 01:12:02,945 --> 01:12:05,885 Second, excuse me, moved. 1472 01:12:06,755 --> 01:12:11,285 Amal, seconded by Pier to ex accept jurisdiction. Mr. Chase? 1473 01:12:11,745 --> 01:12:16,405 Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Moey? Yes. Mr. 1474 01:12:16,725 --> 01:12:20,045 Ello? Yes. Peir? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. Chair. Chair votes? 1475 01:12:20,105 --> 01:12:21,105 Yes. 1476 01:12:22,115 --> 01:12:23,175 Mr. Chair, I make motion 1477 01:12:23,175 --> 01:12:24,655 to open the public hearing. Second, 1478 01:12:25,245 --> 01:12:27,975 Move by ee, seconded by Peir to open the public hearing. 1479 01:12:27,995 --> 01:12:30,015 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 1480 01:12:30,015 --> 01:12:32,335 Public hearing is open. Please give 1481 01:12:32,335 --> 01:12:33,415 us your rundown on this one. 1482 01:12:33,635 --> 01:12:35,735 Yep. Again, Ms. Roby do did a really good job. 1483 01:12:36,695 --> 01:12:39,135 I do agree with you that a phantom line 1484 01:12:39,135 --> 01:12:41,575 or a dash line would work much better 1485 01:12:41,595 --> 01:12:45,455 and clean that lot line to be removed up quite a bit. 1486 01:12:46,815 --> 01:12:48,135 A little bit of background. 1487 01:12:48,525 --> 01:12:50,935 It's my understanding that the Clarks who live 1488 01:12:51,955 --> 01:12:56,535 on the cul-de-sac of that 1489 01:12:56,535 --> 01:12:58,095 that's gaining the acre of land, 1490 01:12:58,285 --> 01:13:01,295 they had a really good relationship with a lady 1491 01:13:01,295 --> 01:13:03,255 who lived at number 12. 1492 01:13:04,655 --> 01:13:08,335 I understand she passed in recent, recent time 1493 01:13:08,755 --> 01:13:12,415 and was a kind of an understanding. 1494 01:13:12,415 --> 01:13:15,255 They've been the, the Clarks have been maintaining that lawn 1495 01:13:15,835 --> 01:13:17,095 for like 40 years. 1496 01:13:18,395 --> 01:13:20,775 The area that will be transferred is 1497 01:13:21,685 --> 01:13:23,095 essentially inaccessible. 1498 01:13:23,215 --> 01:13:27,375 There's a really big wetland between 12 and 28. 1499 01:13:29,515 --> 01:13:33,575 And the ag, the, the son of the lady who passed is, 1500 01:13:34,395 --> 01:13:36,015 as far as I know, they have a really good relationship 1501 01:13:36,075 --> 01:13:39,095 and he carried through with the plan of of going 1502 01:13:39,095 --> 01:13:40,255 through with the lot line adjustment. 1503 01:13:42,375 --> 01:13:43,935 I went out and delineated wetlands. 1504 01:13:44,045 --> 01:13:45,855 There's a significant amount of wetland 1505 01:13:46,745 --> 01:13:48,935 which isn't necessarily relevant 1506 01:13:48,935 --> 01:13:50,855 to the lot line adjustment, but it's of note. 1507 01:13:54,835 --> 01:13:57,055 And that's all I've got by way of introduction. 1508 01:13:57,635 --> 01:13:59,655 So I'm happy to take any questions or comments, 1509 01:14:01,215 --> 01:14:02,335 Questions or comments from the board. 1510 01:14:06,165 --> 01:14:07,695 Hearing none, are there any questions 1511 01:14:07,695 --> 01:14:10,335 or comments from anyone in the audience or online? 1512 01:14:12,425 --> 01:14:13,765 Mr. Chair, we're seeing Rise. 1513 01:14:14,505 --> 01:14:15,885 Oh, we have someone with a hand raise. 1514 01:14:16,385 --> 01:14:17,445 Please, please come forward 1515 01:14:17,465 --> 01:14:18,965 and give your name and address for the record. 1516 01:14:24,025 --> 01:14:25,125 My name's Nicole Barrett. 1517 01:14:25,125 --> 01:14:27,525 Wait, so we gotta wait till you get on the mic so 1518 01:14:27,525 --> 01:14:28,845 that you're on the tape 1519 01:14:28,865 --> 01:14:30,925 and the television audience at home can hear you. 1520 01:14:31,235 --> 01:14:33,645 What? There's a TD audience at home. Okay. 1521 01:14:33,645 --> 01:14:34,765 They need to hear you through the mic. 1522 01:14:35,035 --> 01:14:36,045 Okay. Yeah. Thank you. 1523 01:14:36,785 --> 01:14:38,325 My name's Nicole Barrett. 1524 01:14:39,025 --> 01:14:41,085 I'm at 32 Milmore 1525 01:14:43,185 --> 01:14:45,045 and I will just straight off admit 1526 01:14:45,045 --> 01:14:47,925 that I don't know too much about these. 1527 01:14:49,085 --> 01:14:50,165 I guess my only question 1528 01:14:50,265 --> 01:14:52,565 and I didn't have a chance to talk to my neighbor, 1529 01:14:54,105 --> 01:14:58,725 is there any change in like land use or anything with that? 1530 01:14:58,875 --> 01:15:00,005 Gaining an acre? 1531 01:15:01,115 --> 01:15:03,365 None proposed. It's in the same district, 1532 01:15:03,365 --> 01:15:05,045 it's the same use, 1533 01:15:05,145 --> 01:15:06,145 So there's nothing. 1534 01:15:07,155 --> 01:15:08,885 Okay. That was my only question. 1535 01:15:08,955 --> 01:15:11,045 They're just gonna keep mowing it like they've been 1536 01:15:11,045 --> 01:15:12,205 doing as far as I know yet. 1537 01:15:12,205 --> 01:15:14,885 Okay. They had horses there years ago, 1538 01:15:14,905 --> 01:15:15,925 but it hasn't been, 1539 01:15:16,315 --> 01:15:19,085 they haven't had animals over there for many years. 1540 01:15:19,555 --> 01:15:20,885 Okay. That was it. 1541 01:15:21,615 --> 01:15:23,325 Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. 1542 01:15:25,545 --> 01:15:28,085 Anyone else has comments or questions? 1543 01:15:30,995 --> 01:15:34,445 Okay. Seeing none. Back to the board. Comments or questions? 1544 01:15:37,545 --> 01:15:38,885 Motion to close the public hearing. 1545 01:15:38,885 --> 01:15:42,165 Second, I move to close the public hearing by Malam. B. 1546 01:15:42,165 --> 01:15:44,845 Seconded by Peir. All those in favor say aye. Aye. 1547 01:15:44,845 --> 01:15:47,685 Public hearing is closed. My findings a fact. 1548 01:15:48,185 --> 01:15:49,205 Mr. Chair, I move 1549 01:15:49,205 --> 01:15:51,565 to find the proposed plan does not alter existing 1550 01:15:51,565 --> 01:15:53,285 conditions, which would affect access 1551 01:15:53,285 --> 01:15:55,365 to the lots ensuring the health, safety, 1552 01:15:55,465 --> 01:15:57,725 and welfare of the neighborhood remains unchanged 1553 01:15:57,745 --> 01:15:59,445 as a result of the adjustment of the lot. 1554 01:15:59,445 --> 01:16:00,445 Line. Second 1555 01:16:01,495 --> 01:16:02,605 Moved and seconded. 1556 01:16:03,495 --> 01:16:05,405 Moved by Melanie, seconded by app Palantier 1557 01:16:05,405 --> 01:16:06,485 to make findings of fact. 1558 01:16:06,545 --> 01:16:11,525 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Mousy? 1559 01:16:11,665 --> 01:16:15,645 Yes. Mr. Chair. Cello. Yes. Palantier? Yes. Mr. Mal? Yes. 1560 01:16:15,705 --> 01:16:18,165 And chair votes? Yes. On the approval. 1561 01:16:19,785 --> 01:16:21,245 Mr. Chair, after review 1562 01:16:21,245 --> 01:16:23,885 and deliberation of the lot, line adjustment application 1563 01:16:23,985 --> 01:16:26,925 for Catherine m DeSimone, revocable trust, 1564 01:16:27,205 --> 01:16:31,285 PID oh 2 1 4 1 12 Milmore Road 1565 01:16:31,665 --> 01:16:35,045 and Joanne Clark Irrevocable property Trust PID oh 1566 01:16:35,045 --> 01:16:37,925 3 1 0 6 28 Milmore Road. 1567 01:16:38,225 --> 01:16:39,645 The board finds the applicant, 1568 01:16:40,025 --> 01:16:42,365 the applicants have satisfied the general requirements 1569 01:16:42,385 --> 01:16:44,445 of the Land Development Control regulations. 1570 01:16:44,955 --> 01:16:47,245 Therefore the motion is to approve pursuant 1571 01:16:47,245 --> 01:16:52,005 to RSA 6 76 4 Roman three expedited review 1572 01:16:52,315 --> 01:16:56,165 with the following conditions, conditions precedent, subject 1573 01:16:56,165 --> 01:16:59,205 to onus signatures, establish escrow for the setting 1574 01:16:59,205 --> 01:17:01,165 of bounds or certify the bounds have been set. 1575 01:17:01,785 --> 01:17:04,445 Obtain written approval from the planning director designee 1576 01:17:04,445 --> 01:17:07,085 that the GIS submission is received and is operable 1577 01:17:07,085 --> 01:17:11,965 and it complies with LDCR section one 70 dash 24 C. 1578 01:17:12,575 --> 01:17:15,085 Submission of the appropriate recording fees payable 1579 01:17:15,085 --> 01:17:16,925 to the Rockham County Registry of Deeds. 1580 01:17:17,395 --> 01:17:20,485 This includes the $25 EL chit fee recording fees 1581 01:17:20,505 --> 01:17:22,245 for the Mylar and the notice of decision, 1582 01:17:23,365 --> 01:17:25,125 correct the zoning reference on the plan. 1583 01:17:25,545 --> 01:17:28,045 The lots are located in the MDR district, 1584 01:17:28,305 --> 01:17:31,565 not LMDR Conditions. 1585 01:17:31,565 --> 01:17:33,165 Precedent shall be met within six months 1586 01:17:34,185 --> 01:17:37,045 and the lot line to be removed is to be dashed on the plat. 1587 01:17:38,785 --> 01:17:41,965 And then conditions subsequent subject to onsite inspection 1588 01:17:41,965 --> 01:17:43,005 by the towns engineer. 1589 01:17:43,785 --> 01:17:46,365 And the documents reflecting conveyance of the lots 1590 01:17:46,385 --> 01:17:48,845 by deed should be recorded at the Rockham County Registry 1591 01:17:48,845 --> 01:17:50,725 of Deeds sub subsequent to 1592 01:17:50,745 --> 01:17:52,565 or in conjunction with the final Mylar. 1593 01:17:52,825 --> 01:17:54,685 And a copy of the recorded deed shall be 1594 01:17:55,085 --> 01:17:56,605 provided to the planning department for the file. 1595 01:17:56,745 --> 01:17:57,745 Second, 1596 01:17:58,245 --> 01:18:01,845 Moved by Alby and seconded by Peir to grant approval. 1597 01:18:02,145 --> 01:18:07,085 Any questions? Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. 1598 01:18:07,145 --> 01:18:11,925 Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Mousy? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. 1599 01:18:12,585 --> 01:18:16,285 Er Yes. Mr. Mal? Yes. Chair votes? Yes. Okay, great. 1600 01:18:16,285 --> 01:18:21,165 Thank you. And I think we have what, one more. That's good. 1601 01:18:24,035 --> 01:18:26,605 This one is the Murdoch family revocable Trust. 1602 01:18:27,165 --> 01:18:31,205 PID 0 6 0 5 9 62 Lane Road 1603 01:18:31,825 --> 01:18:33,165 for a two lot subdivision. 1604 01:18:34,115 --> 01:18:37,405 Okay. So the proposal is for a two lot subdivision 1605 01:18:37,425 --> 01:18:38,845 of 62 Lane Road. 1606 01:18:39,345 --> 01:18:42,045 The property is located in the low medium density 1607 01:18:42,195 --> 01:18:45,285 residential district, which requires a minimum lot area 1608 01:18:45,285 --> 01:18:47,845 of three acres and 150 feet of frontage. 1609 01:18:48,425 --> 01:18:50,845 The proposed frontage exceeds the requirement. 1610 01:18:51,445 --> 01:18:53,565 A variance was granted on February 5th 1611 01:18:53,585 --> 01:18:57,645 of this year from the provisions of section 1 65 47 B one 1612 01:18:58,025 --> 01:19:00,525 to allow the creation of two lots was 1613 01:19:00,635 --> 01:19:02,285 with less than the two acre minimum. 1614 01:19:03,025 --> 01:19:07,245 The proposed lots are 1.85 acres and 1.6 acres. 1615 01:19:07,825 --> 01:19:10,285 The lots will have private wells and septic systems. 1616 01:19:10,695 --> 01:19:12,165 There are wetlands to the rear, 1617 01:19:12,255 --> 01:19:13,805 which is actually West Running Brook. 1618 01:19:14,045 --> 01:19:16,685 However, there is a stone wall in a tree line to the rear, 1619 01:19:16,685 --> 01:19:19,805 which will limit any potential vehicular access 1620 01:19:19,805 --> 01:19:21,005 to the rear of the property. 1621 01:19:21,825 --> 01:19:25,845 The proposed lots will be identified as parcel oh 6 0 5 9, 1622 01:19:25,845 --> 01:19:28,605 which is the parent Parcel 62 Lane Road 1623 01:19:28,985 --> 01:19:32,925 and Parcel oh 6 0 5 9 dash oh oh one 60 Lane Road. 1624 01:19:33,105 --> 01:19:34,725 As identified by the fire department. 1625 01:19:35,425 --> 01:19:38,085 The trees tear, the proposed driveway will need 1626 01:19:38,085 --> 01:19:40,165 to be removed for site distance purposes 1627 01:19:40,225 --> 01:19:41,925 and the temporary culvert in front 1628 01:19:41,925 --> 01:19:45,165 of the proposed lot will be reconstructed to town standards. 1629 01:19:46,065 --> 01:19:49,845 Of note note six states the owner can choose 1630 01:19:49,865 --> 01:19:51,685 to install residential sprinklers. 1631 01:19:52,145 --> 01:19:54,525 The form of fire protection needs to be specified. 1632 01:19:55,285 --> 01:19:57,245 The town can't per state law, 1633 01:19:57,275 --> 01:19:59,365 require residential fire sprinklers 1634 01:19:59,385 --> 01:20:00,805 and single family residential. 1635 01:20:00,805 --> 01:20:03,805 However, we can require fire protection in the form 1636 01:20:03,805 --> 01:20:05,245 of assistant or a hydrant. 1637 01:20:05,635 --> 01:20:08,605 This lot is not in the hydrant hydrant district. 1638 01:20:08,945 --> 01:20:11,005 So the choices are limited to the construction 1639 01:20:11,005 --> 01:20:12,005 of a fire cistern 1640 01:20:12,145 --> 01:20:15,085 or voluntary installation of residential sprinklers. 1641 01:20:15,505 --> 01:20:18,165 If the owner chooses not to install sprinklers, 1642 01:20:18,225 --> 01:20:19,445 the plan needs to be updated 1643 01:20:19,505 --> 01:20:21,525 to show the cistern area in construction. 1644 01:20:21,595 --> 01:20:24,845 Details or note six could be amended 1645 01:20:24,845 --> 01:20:27,645 to state the applicant voluntarily chooses 1646 01:20:27,645 --> 01:20:30,245 to equip the homes with residential sprinklers. 1647 01:20:32,095 --> 01:20:36,725 There is one waiver to allow an existing drill home 1648 01:20:36,945 --> 01:20:38,645 to remain as a boundary monument. 1649 01:20:38,645 --> 01:20:40,325 Instead of installing a granite bound 1650 01:20:41,085 --> 01:20:43,805 we'll need state subdivision approval town driveway 1651 01:20:43,965 --> 01:20:45,845 and building permits in state septic. 1652 01:20:46,525 --> 01:20:49,085 The recommendation is to review the proposed plan, 1653 01:20:49,115 --> 01:20:51,925 vote on regional impact and review the waiver requests. 1654 01:20:51,925 --> 01:20:54,525 This is also a fairly straightforward application. 1655 01:20:56,155 --> 01:20:56,445 Okay, 1656 01:21:02,365 --> 01:21:04,645 I think I, I've got this one. 1657 01:21:05,465 --> 01:21:09,765 So let's move on with jurisdiction. 1658 01:21:10,145 --> 01:21:12,085 Mr. Chair, I move to accept jurisdiction 1659 01:21:12,305 --> 01:21:14,045 of the two lot subdivision plan 1660 01:21:14,045 --> 01:21:15,605 before the board for the Murdoch family. 1661 01:21:15,675 --> 01:21:17,525 Revocable trust, PID oh 1662 01:21:17,665 --> 01:21:20,805 6 0 5 9 62 Lane Road. 1663 01:21:20,905 --> 01:21:24,645 Second, moved by Malibu, seconded by Pier 1664 01:21:24,745 --> 01:21:26,445 to accept jurisdiction. 1665 01:21:26,505 --> 01:21:30,965 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. 1666 01:21:31,325 --> 01:21:35,085 Mozzie? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. 1667 01:21:35,085 --> 01:21:38,045 Chair votes? Yes. And on regional impact, 1668 01:21:38,465 --> 01:21:39,465 Mr. 1669 01:21:39,465 --> 01:21:42,045 Chair? Pursuant to RSA 36 56, 1670 01:21:42,505 --> 01:21:43,765 the board finds the proposal 1671 01:21:43,905 --> 01:21:46,085 as presented at this time meets the definition 1672 01:21:46,265 --> 01:21:48,645 of a development of regional impact. Second, 1673 01:21:49,175 --> 01:21:52,605 Moved by Malibu, seconded by Pier. Mr. Chase? 1674 01:21:53,385 --> 01:21:55,045 No, this is a small tool lot subdivision 1675 01:21:56,165 --> 01:21:58,285 geographically near the center of the town. 1676 01:21:58,465 --> 01:22:01,685 So it does not meet the Juris definition of regional impact. 1677 01:22:02,065 --> 01:22:05,765 Mr. Wood? No. For the reasons stated Mr. Menini 1678 01:22:05,945 --> 01:22:06,685 No. For the same 1679 01:22:06,685 --> 01:22:07,685 Reasons. 1680 01:22:08,305 --> 01:22:09,365 Mr. Ey? No. 1681 01:22:09,365 --> 01:22:11,365 For the same reasons. Mr. Ello? No. 1682 01:22:11,365 --> 01:22:13,245 For the same reasons. Peir? No. 1683 01:22:13,245 --> 01:22:14,845 For the same reasons. Mr. Mal? No. 1684 01:22:14,865 --> 01:22:16,045 For the same reasons. Chair 1685 01:22:16,045 --> 01:22:17,045 Votes? 1686 01:22:17,045 --> 01:22:17,245 No. For the same reasons. 1687 01:22:19,045 --> 01:22:20,845 Motion to I make a motion 1688 01:22:20,845 --> 01:22:22,245 to open the public hearing. Second, 1689 01:22:22,795 --> 01:22:25,685 Move by EE second to my Palantir to open public hearing. 1690 01:22:25,685 --> 01:22:27,645 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. 1691 01:22:27,645 --> 01:22:28,965 Public hearing is open, so you may 1692 01:22:29,315 --> 01:22:30,525 give us your rundown. Again. 1693 01:22:31,485 --> 01:22:34,685 Thank you. S 1694 01:22:35,785 --> 01:22:37,045 The, as Ms. 1695 01:22:37,425 --> 01:22:41,485 Du said, we were granted a, a variance for area. 1696 01:22:41,825 --> 01:22:44,525 It meets, it meets 1697 01:22:44,525 --> 01:22:47,285 and exceeds the minimum requirement by soils, just not 1698 01:22:47,285 --> 01:22:48,325 by physical land area. 1699 01:22:50,505 --> 01:22:55,045 We are requesting a waiver for the front 1700 01:22:56,035 --> 01:23:00,085 left westerly property corner. 1701 01:23:00,485 --> 01:23:03,365 There's a drill hole, which is a legal survey monument 1702 01:23:03,395 --> 01:23:04,685 that exists right there. 1703 01:23:06,145 --> 01:23:09,285 And the regulations require a stone, a abound. 1704 01:23:11,365 --> 01:23:13,545 The reason we are requesting the waiver is 1705 01:23:13,545 --> 01:23:18,145 because of legal rules of removing boundary. 1706 01:23:18,165 --> 01:23:20,825 We need select board permission 1707 01:23:20,885 --> 01:23:25,335 and all the abutter, the affected abutter permission to do 1708 01:23:25,335 --> 01:23:29,775 so because it's a existing monument set 1709 01:23:29,795 --> 01:23:31,095 by a previous surveyor. 1710 01:23:33,475 --> 01:23:37,615 You'll notice on the new lot, which is the lot to the west, 1711 01:23:39,925 --> 01:23:44,135 that there's a proposed 4K area, 4,000 square foot 1712 01:23:44,935 --> 01:23:46,495 suitable leaching area for a septic. 1713 01:23:46,495 --> 01:23:49,255 That's a requirement for by the state 1714 01:23:49,435 --> 01:23:52,695 or for, for a state subdivision approval, 1715 01:23:52,695 --> 01:23:57,215 which we have received or approved septic. 1716 01:23:57,275 --> 01:24:01,265 So Getting a septic design approved is kind 1717 01:24:01,265 --> 01:24:03,225 of putting the cart before the horse in this instance. 1718 01:24:03,225 --> 01:24:06,025 So it's easier to show a 4,000 square foot area. 1719 01:24:07,885 --> 01:24:12,705 But we are, instead of having a septic in the back closer 1720 01:24:12,725 --> 01:24:13,865 to the wetland and uphill, 1721 01:24:14,315 --> 01:24:17,785 which was we inherited this job from another surveyor, 1722 01:24:18,005 --> 01:24:19,185 we went to the site 1723 01:24:19,265 --> 01:24:23,985 and performed our own traverse closure field checks, 1724 01:24:24,525 --> 01:24:28,015 all of that, but it doesn't make any 1725 01:24:28,015 --> 01:24:29,135 sense to put the septic in the back. 1726 01:24:29,235 --> 01:24:32,895 So we, the, the buyer wants the septic in the front 1727 01:24:35,035 --> 01:24:37,975 so that, that's a change from what will occur 1728 01:24:39,965 --> 01:24:41,935 From what we show on this plan. 1729 01:24:42,335 --> 01:24:43,375 I kept it like that 1730 01:24:43,375 --> 01:24:46,855 because it, we didn't do the original design work. 1731 01:24:47,475 --> 01:24:50,655 So what will take place later is the well will go 1732 01:24:50,715 --> 01:24:53,135 to the rear of the house, the septic will be in the 1733 01:24:53,135 --> 01:24:54,175 front, which makes more sense. 1734 01:24:54,175 --> 01:24:59,135 Topographically, the driveway 1735 01:25:00,435 --> 01:25:03,095 is really close to 150 feet. 1736 01:25:04,395 --> 01:25:05,935 The buyer wants to shorten that. 1737 01:25:06,635 --> 01:25:09,695 But if the, if the driveway is 150 feet 1738 01:25:10,195 --> 01:25:13,455 or longer, we will propose a, a turnaround 1739 01:25:13,515 --> 01:25:15,015 for fire apparatus. 1740 01:25:16,975 --> 01:25:18,055 I spoke with the buyer today. 1741 01:25:18,355 --> 01:25:23,095 He does want to voluntarily opt for sprinklers so 1742 01:25:23,095 --> 01:25:25,135 that that has been addressed. 1743 01:25:25,795 --> 01:25:27,415 The monuments have been set, 1744 01:25:27,635 --> 01:25:28,895 the boundary points have been set 1745 01:25:33,315 --> 01:25:34,655 and I can't read my other note. 1746 01:25:35,355 --> 01:25:36,735 So I think that's it for now. 1747 01:25:38,285 --> 01:25:41,415 Alright. I have a few technical questions. 1748 01:25:41,435 --> 01:25:43,255 I'm gonna start with the drill hole. Yes. 1749 01:25:43,315 --> 01:25:45,455 Is that in a really big rock? 1750 01:25:47,005 --> 01:25:49,975 It's in a significant enough rock 1751 01:25:50,125 --> 01:25:52,975 that another surveyor drilled. 1752 01:25:53,045 --> 01:25:56,535 Drilled it. They, they, they're normally in base rocks, 1753 01:25:56,535 --> 01:25:58,495 like bigger rocks on the bottom of a stone wall. 1754 01:25:58,495 --> 01:26:01,015 Right. So they're not easily, you have to move it on purpose 1755 01:26:01,355 --> 01:26:04,285 or, or that it's not really movable. 1756 01:26:04,575 --> 01:26:07,645 Bless you. But it's a, a legal survey monument. 1757 01:26:07,825 --> 01:26:11,245 So we really hesitate to remove those. 1758 01:26:11,785 --> 01:26:14,325 So even though it's a quasi movable rock, 1759 01:26:14,885 --> 01:26:16,645 I don't, I don't know, I didn't walk to it, 1760 01:26:16,945 --> 01:26:18,525 but if it, if it's movable, 1761 01:26:22,505 --> 01:26:23,685 you are not supposed to drill it. 1762 01:26:25,215 --> 01:26:26,245 Understood. But 1763 01:26:27,145 --> 01:26:28,605 So I, I can check that, 1764 01:26:28,665 --> 01:26:32,685 but I don't, it's, I I am guessing 1765 01:26:32,685 --> 01:26:36,565 that it's not, it that it's a significant enough monument 1766 01:26:36,565 --> 01:26:37,605 that it's not gonna move. 1767 01:26:38,355 --> 01:26:40,005 Well maybe we could ask as a condition 1768 01:26:40,005 --> 01:26:42,445 that you actually do check that I, if you find it with like, 1769 01:26:42,445 --> 01:26:43,645 ah, that's sketchy. 1770 01:26:43,645 --> 01:26:45,925 Then think about Yeah. Remediating it. 1771 01:26:46,085 --> 01:26:47,445 'cause we don't want create problems 1772 01:26:47,465 --> 01:26:50,805 for landowners down the, the, the way of if someone right. 1773 01:26:51,015 --> 01:26:52,285 Moves a, a stone 1774 01:26:52,285 --> 01:26:54,205 that was a monument without knowing it. Maybe 1775 01:26:54,875 --> 01:26:56,725 It's a misdemeanor to remove a boundary point 1776 01:26:56,725 --> 01:26:57,765 though. By by way you 1777 01:26:57,765 --> 01:26:58,765 Have to know you're doing it. 1778 01:26:59,155 --> 01:27:04,005 That we we have to do it with appropriate permission. Yes. 1779 01:27:04,005 --> 01:27:07,965 No, no. I I mean if you happen to just move the rock 1780 01:27:08,345 --> 01:27:09,725 and you don't know it's a boundary 1781 01:27:09,725 --> 01:27:10,725 and you're not a surveyor. 1782 01:27:11,145 --> 01:27:12,765 Oh, oh yeah, yeah. 1783 01:27:12,865 --> 01:27:14,085 Yes. That's, that's kind of where I'm going. 1784 01:27:16,185 --> 01:27:20,165 And then the other question was will there be some sort of 1785 01:27:20,685 --> 01:27:23,605 as-built reason I asked is I went to the town 1786 01:27:23,625 --> 01:27:25,365 and pulled the file on my lot 1787 01:27:26,025 --> 01:27:27,965 and the information on, on the well 1788 01:27:27,965 --> 01:27:29,765 and whatnot was kind of sketchy 1789 01:27:29,865 --> 01:27:33,165 and I would appreciate, I guess if I was the landowner that, 1790 01:27:33,235 --> 01:27:36,165 that the actual well location in the actual septic location. 1791 01:27:36,165 --> 01:27:37,445 We're, we're on a document. 1792 01:27:37,755 --> 01:27:40,325 They, yes. When I do the septic design, it'll be, 1793 01:27:40,855 --> 01:27:42,925 it'll be constructed per a septic design, 1794 01:27:42,925 --> 01:27:44,845 which is forthcoming and 1795 01:27:44,845 --> 01:27:46,805 It'll be given to the planning department. 1796 01:27:47,055 --> 01:27:48,645 It'll be build, yeah. 1797 01:27:48,645 --> 01:27:50,965 The building department and on record at the state. 1798 01:27:51,065 --> 01:27:53,165 The N-H-D-E-S subsurface bureau. Okay. 1799 01:27:57,795 --> 01:27:59,955 I think that's it for now. Any other members 1800 01:28:00,015 --> 01:28:02,355 of the board have questions Mr. To chase? 1801 01:28:02,865 --> 01:28:07,635 Yeah, so I'm a little troubled with 1802 01:28:08,735 --> 01:28:12,295 the dynamics of the well and the septic and everything. 1803 01:28:12,965 --> 01:28:16,535 Usually that's pretty well established on a, on a plat 1804 01:28:16,535 --> 01:28:17,535 before we accept it. 1805 01:28:19,255 --> 01:28:22,095 I mean depending on where that well is gonna, 1806 01:28:22,315 --> 01:28:24,135 we have no idea where the well is gonna wind up. 1807 01:28:24,135 --> 01:28:28,295 Whether it meets, I'm sure you're professionals and ethical, 1808 01:28:28,315 --> 01:28:32,845 but we know nothing of the well radii, we know nothing of 1809 01:28:33,505 --> 01:28:36,685 the septic in proximity to the one next door. 1810 01:28:37,165 --> 01:28:39,565 'cause he wants it in the front with the wetlands. 1811 01:28:41,425 --> 01:28:43,685 It will meet all the state and local 1812 01:28:44,085 --> 01:28:45,085 Requirements. 1813 01:28:45,085 --> 01:28:47,405 Sure it was. But what I'm getting at is we're used to seeing 1814 01:28:47,405 --> 01:28:49,325 that in front of us 1815 01:28:50,035 --> 01:28:53,125 that we can question anything. 1816 01:28:53,265 --> 01:28:56,885 And I'm now, we're seeing basically nothing in front of us. 1817 01:28:56,885 --> 01:28:58,965 You're telling us he wants this changed, he wants 1818 01:28:58,965 --> 01:29:00,445 that changed, he wants this changed. 1819 01:29:01,545 --> 01:29:03,325 And we really don't know what we're voting on here. 1820 01:29:05,545 --> 01:29:08,125 The, the proposed, well the well radius will 1821 01:29:08,705 --> 01:29:13,245 be entirely on that lot on the new lot and the septic. 1822 01:29:13,465 --> 01:29:16,005 See where the word proposed map the words proposed 1823 01:29:16,665 --> 01:29:19,125 map six lot 59 dash one Yeah. 1824 01:29:19,225 --> 01:29:20,525 Are in front of the house. The 1825 01:29:20,645 --> 01:29:22,085 septic septic will be going there. 1826 01:29:22,345 --> 01:29:24,045 See the symbol, the test pit symbol 1827 01:29:24,195 --> 01:29:25,805 just to the top right of that? Yeah. 1828 01:29:26,135 --> 01:29:28,365 Right Above the DI did another test pit there. 1829 01:29:28,805 --> 01:29:30,645 That's where the septic will be going. Okay. 1830 01:29:30,905 --> 01:29:33,725 And the well radius is 75 feet 1831 01:29:33,755 --> 01:29:37,085 because it's, it, it's 1832 01:29:37,295 --> 01:29:39,645 below a certain gallons per day for the right, 1833 01:29:39,645 --> 01:29:41,405 for a septic state by state rule. 1834 01:29:42,545 --> 01:29:46,845 So a 75 foot well radius will be in the rear of the lot, 1835 01:29:47,535 --> 01:29:50,125 which none of it will, none 1836 01:29:50,125 --> 01:29:52,645 of the septic components will be within that 75 foot radius. 1837 01:29:53,985 --> 01:29:55,565 And the well radius will 1838 01:29:57,195 --> 01:30:02,065 main would be maintained entirely on the, the subject lot 1839 01:30:02,565 --> 01:30:06,905 or the well radius can cross the property if it's precluded 1840 01:30:06,905 --> 01:30:08,185 from development, which means you 1841 01:30:08,185 --> 01:30:09,385 can't build a septic there anyway. 1842 01:30:09,585 --> 01:30:11,905 A well radius can cross a lot line if 1843 01:30:11,905 --> 01:30:12,985 there's a wetland on the other side. 1844 01:30:13,185 --> 01:30:14,345 'cause the neighbor can't put a septic there 1845 01:30:14,365 --> 01:30:16,105 anyway. So that's it. 1846 01:30:16,785 --> 01:30:20,945 I understand that. I'm just used to seeing firm, 1847 01:30:21,695 --> 01:30:23,585 Well I designations, well I suppose she pick the question 1848 01:30:23,585 --> 01:30:25,945 if, if everyone had agreed that's 1849 01:30:26,045 --> 01:30:28,465 how things wanna be shuffled, why wasn't 1850 01:30:28,465 --> 01:30:30,505 that revised on the drawing before it was submitted to us? 1851 01:30:34,275 --> 01:30:37,985 Again, we came into this project later than 1852 01:30:39,315 --> 01:30:41,655 we wanted to and, 1853 01:30:41,835 --> 01:30:44,415 and later than I knew who was gonna buy the property. 1854 01:30:44,875 --> 01:30:45,935 So that would've worked. 1855 01:30:46,595 --> 01:30:49,695 But after speaking with who, the, the person who's gonna 1856 01:30:50,335 --> 01:30:52,855 purchase property, they wanted to switch it, 1857 01:30:52,855 --> 01:30:54,495 but it had already been sub submitted. 1858 01:31:00,035 --> 01:31:01,895 It is a little unusual. I agree with Ms. Chase. 1859 01:31:02,195 --> 01:31:05,495 Do we have a, an easy way to fix the documentation 1860 01:31:05,495 --> 01:31:07,775 after the fact that we'll need everyone's concerns. 1861 01:31:13,555 --> 01:31:16,075 I guess I'm gonna ask Mr. 1862 01:31:16,745 --> 01:31:18,995 Foli, what's engineering's thought on that 1863 01:31:19,215 --> 01:31:21,155 of us approving it without solid? 1864 01:31:22,415 --> 01:31:26,955 So usually we do have approximate layouts 1865 01:31:26,955 --> 01:31:29,755 of the well and septic locations, 1866 01:31:29,775 --> 01:31:33,755 but the final septic location actually isn't set 1867 01:31:33,965 --> 01:31:35,315 until it goes to the state. 1868 01:31:36,395 --> 01:31:37,515 What he was kinda describing 1869 01:31:37,515 --> 01:31:40,075 before, when they get the actual DES permit. 1870 01:31:40,735 --> 01:31:42,515 So what we've approved in the past, 1871 01:31:43,105 --> 01:31:47,115 what we've all approved hasn't actually been the final thing 1872 01:31:47,115 --> 01:31:48,315 that was constructed in the field. 1873 01:31:49,865 --> 01:31:54,855 That actually kind of gets ironed out kind of as it, as the, 1874 01:31:55,075 --> 01:31:58,775 as things progress and as the houses 'cause, 1875 01:31:58,935 --> 01:32:02,045 'cause these, as the, we've discussed 1876 01:32:02,045 --> 01:32:05,605 before at previous meetings, the houses, these are kind 1877 01:32:05,605 --> 01:32:07,725 of rough alignments themselves. 1878 01:32:07,785 --> 01:32:10,205 And as those change, the location 1879 01:32:10,205 --> 01:32:12,045 of the septic kind of gets fine tuned. 1880 01:32:12,315 --> 01:32:15,685 It's, it's not exactly 1881 01:32:17,805 --> 01:32:19,045 precise at this point. 1882 01:32:19,275 --> 01:32:20,275 Okay. So, 1883 01:32:20,865 --> 01:32:22,405 So my question to you would be with, 1884 01:32:22,435 --> 01:32:25,605 with I I understand fine tuning and adjustments. 1885 01:32:25,795 --> 01:32:28,405 Yeah. It, you know, in the field as things go, 1886 01:32:29,875 --> 01:32:31,965 this is a little more than a fine tuning adjustment. 1887 01:32:31,965 --> 01:32:34,365 Agreed. How, what comfortable are you 1888 01:32:34,365 --> 01:32:35,525 with that being approved? 1889 01:32:35,785 --> 01:32:37,845 Or would you rather see an approved with it? 1890 01:32:38,625 --> 01:32:40,005 I'm where it's gonna be, I'm comfortable this 1891 01:32:40,005 --> 01:32:41,325 because it's only one lot and 1892 01:32:41,325 --> 01:32:43,565 because what he's saying isn't 1893 01:32:46,165 --> 01:32:48,085 egregious, you know what he's saying makes sense. 1894 01:32:48,705 --> 01:32:50,805 The septic can fit in that location. 1895 01:32:50,945 --> 01:32:55,645 The well can fit to, is it north, yet north of the property? 1896 01:32:56,185 --> 01:32:59,285 It makes sense. It will work. I'm not concerned about it. 1897 01:32:59,635 --> 01:33:03,605 Okay. So for this one instance, I'm okay with it, 1898 01:33:06,505 --> 01:33:09,805 so I'm satisfied. 1899 01:33:10,235 --> 01:33:12,885 Okay. But I I do, I do understand you're concerned 1900 01:33:13,085 --> 01:33:14,205 and it's, it's valid. 1901 01:33:14,435 --> 01:33:18,085 It's if there were, if, if there were more issues 1902 01:33:18,145 --> 01:33:21,445 and I, I would be more hesitant, 1903 01:33:21,585 --> 01:33:23,925 but for just this one property, I'm, 1904 01:33:24,745 --> 01:33:25,965 I'm not super concerned about it. 1905 01:33:28,795 --> 01:33:31,375 Any other comments or questions from the board? 1906 01:33:34,335 --> 01:33:36,865 Does anyone in the public, either in the audience 1907 01:33:37,365 --> 01:33:38,985 or online have comments or questions? 1908 01:33:39,365 --> 01:33:41,025 Please come forward. Give your 1909 01:33:41,025 --> 01:33:42,225 name and address of the record. 1910 01:33:48,825 --> 01:33:51,715 Good evening, Scott Montelli, 58 Lane Road. 1911 01:33:52,335 --> 01:33:55,195 The adjacent abut to the west of this lot line. 1912 01:33:56,635 --> 01:33:59,515 I came when the murdochs were proposing the 1913 01:33:59,515 --> 01:34:01,435 subdivision of the lot. 1914 01:34:02,355 --> 01:34:06,315 I actually made mention the well was in the front, 1915 01:34:06,695 --> 01:34:09,515 the septic was in the back, which is the opposite of 1916 01:34:09,515 --> 01:34:10,635 what my property is. 1917 01:34:11,835 --> 01:34:14,515 I have my septic in the front and well in the back. 1918 01:34:14,535 --> 01:34:17,915 And I thought at that time it was most appropriate to 1919 01:34:19,145 --> 01:34:22,835 make the change if it could be accommodated, you know, just 1920 01:34:22,835 --> 01:34:24,155 to put everybody's mind at ease. 1921 01:34:24,495 --> 01:34:28,315 The one thing that I do notice, the, the bound 1922 01:34:29,805 --> 01:34:31,075 separating my lot 1923 01:34:31,175 --> 01:34:35,715 and this new proposed lot, it's a loose laid farmer wall. 1924 01:34:36,375 --> 01:34:41,155 The stones, you know, it's, I wanna say it's compromised. 1925 01:34:41,785 --> 01:34:43,435 It's not well laid out. 1926 01:34:44,395 --> 01:34:47,035 I have never seen the hole drilled in the rock 1927 01:34:47,615 --> 01:34:48,795 up against the lane road. 1928 01:34:49,875 --> 01:34:51,715 I don't believe it's currently marked today, 1929 01:34:52,355 --> 01:34:53,675 although the lot has been laid out 1930 01:34:54,095 --> 01:34:58,645 and I'd be looking happily looking for a granite bound there 1931 01:34:59,355 --> 01:35:00,445 just to identify it. 1932 01:35:00,565 --> 01:35:02,445 I think when the swale was originally created 1933 01:35:02,545 --> 01:35:05,845 to allow the three lot subdivision to the west of this, 1934 01:35:06,265 --> 01:35:07,925 it was probably lost 1935 01:35:08,705 --> 01:35:11,085 in reestablishing the swale at the edge of the road. 1936 01:35:14,665 --> 01:35:17,285 That's the only comment that, that I would have 1937 01:35:17,925 --> 01:35:18,925 Comments on that. 1938 01:35:19,425 --> 01:35:21,285 No thank, thank you. I think that's good comments. 1939 01:35:21,605 --> 01:35:23,005 I mean, there, there are problem 1940 01:35:23,145 --> 01:35:25,245 During your, your field resurvey. 1941 01:35:25,245 --> 01:35:27,645 Did you, you didn't actually go and look for the drill hole? 1942 01:35:28,555 --> 01:35:30,735 We tied, yes, we tied into the drill hole survey. 1943 01:35:30,735 --> 01:35:31,975 So you found it found? Yes. Okay. 1944 01:35:32,125 --> 01:35:33,135 Okay. Yep. 1945 01:35:33,595 --> 01:35:36,375 But they're oftentimes not easy to find 1946 01:35:36,795 --> 01:35:40,415 and we don't normally paint them up like crazy 1947 01:35:40,415 --> 01:35:43,535 because people don't wanna see big splash of orange paint, 1948 01:35:43,535 --> 01:35:44,575 orange paint in their front yard. 1949 01:35:46,825 --> 01:35:49,915 That that is the only bond that's not a, a steel post. 1950 01:35:50,615 --> 01:35:51,875 So I don't know, 1951 01:35:51,975 --> 01:35:54,635 I'm assuming it was there at one time. But with the, 1952 01:35:54,705 --> 01:35:56,315 Well, no, the, the gentleman's correct. 1953 01:35:56,875 --> 01:35:59,435 Historically, there are multiple things that would count 1954 01:35:59,575 --> 01:36:02,755 for legal bounds, drill holes in rocks, blazes on trees, 1955 01:36:03,495 --> 01:36:05,955 so all sorts of interesting things in the colonial days. 1956 01:36:06,015 --> 01:36:09,555 So this area of town goes back and has a history. 1957 01:36:09,615 --> 01:36:13,475 So if there is a viable bound 1958 01:36:13,615 --> 01:36:14,755 and if it has been found 1959 01:36:14,815 --> 01:36:18,275 and then it's in a rock that's not gonna move 1960 01:36:18,905 --> 01:36:21,155 anytime soon, then I think it's fine. 1961 01:36:22,535 --> 01:36:24,755 If it's, if it's already been compromised, 1962 01:36:24,755 --> 01:36:26,755 then maybe we've already broken that seal. 1963 01:36:26,895 --> 01:36:29,235 So yeah, I think we ought to determine that as a, 1964 01:36:29,515 --> 01:36:31,435 as a condition of approval. 1965 01:36:31,465 --> 01:36:35,755 Just go out and double check that you did actually determine 1966 01:36:35,755 --> 01:36:38,315 that the location of the drill hole matched the, 1967 01:36:38,335 --> 01:36:40,275 the GPS coordinates We were supposed to be. 1968 01:36:40,495 --> 01:36:42,675 Yes. Okay. So we know that much. Okay. 1969 01:36:44,065 --> 01:36:45,195 Okay. Thank you. Yep. 1970 01:36:45,775 --> 01:36:47,755 Any other comments, questions from members 1971 01:36:47,755 --> 01:36:50,155 of the board or members of the public? 1972 01:36:51,015 --> 01:36:53,665 Mr. Chair? Okay. 1973 01:36:53,725 --> 01:36:57,145 Seeing none in, in the audience, go back to the, the board. 1974 01:37:00,385 --> 01:37:02,345 I just, I, I'm with Mr. Chase on this one. 1975 01:37:02,465 --> 01:37:07,145 I wish there was, i I I dare say use the word concrete, 1976 01:37:07,165 --> 01:37:10,025 but more the proposed 4,000 foot 1977 01:37:10,135 --> 01:37:11,465 that was going into the front. 1978 01:37:12,345 --> 01:37:14,385 I guess I just wish we had seen that 1979 01:37:14,385 --> 01:37:17,025 before this proposal stuff. 1980 01:37:18,565 --> 01:37:19,945 I'm with you on this one. Mr. Chase, 1981 01:37:22,565 --> 01:37:22,985 Ms. Robert, 1982 01:37:23,645 --> 01:37:28,425 As a suggestion, if, if the 1983 01:37:28,555 --> 01:37:31,065 final plan, like these plans will come back 1984 01:37:31,065 --> 01:37:33,385 and the miler will come back for the board to sign 1985 01:37:34,225 --> 01:37:38,625 before it goes to the registry, would it be appropriate to 1986 01:37:39,375 --> 01:37:42,385 have that change made, you know, have it as a condition 1987 01:37:42,385 --> 01:37:44,345 of approval that the final plat matches 1988 01:37:44,345 --> 01:37:46,145 what will likely be constructed 1989 01:37:46,715 --> 01:37:48,825 since we're having this discussion this evening? 1990 01:37:50,455 --> 01:37:51,865 Well, let's, let's toss that around. 1991 01:37:51,965 --> 01:37:55,645 And typically one of those conditional 1992 01:37:56,685 --> 01:38:01,245 approvals for redrawing something is when the instructions 1993 01:38:01,245 --> 01:38:02,845 to redraw it are very specific. 1994 01:38:04,005 --> 01:38:05,605 It usually does not require or, 1995 01:38:05,625 --> 01:38:08,645 or allow any discretion in how it gets drawn. 1996 01:38:09,265 --> 01:38:11,845 So the playing board has to exercise a little caution 1997 01:38:12,395 --> 01:38:15,165 when they say, we'll approve this and, 1998 01:38:15,265 --> 01:38:16,965 and then we'll sign a plan that's different 1999 01:38:17,545 --> 01:38:19,925 and we trust that it's not different in a way 2000 01:38:19,925 --> 01:38:21,845 that we won't like that. 2001 01:38:21,905 --> 01:38:25,125 Or is a condition to revise the final plan 2002 01:38:25,145 --> 01:38:28,085 to show the new location of the proposed septic. And well, 2003 01:38:28,145 --> 01:38:31,485 And, and if we can indicate that in, in some, 2004 01:38:32,465 --> 01:38:35,805 not too many words as part of that condition that would make 2005 01:38:35,805 --> 01:38:37,245 that less discretionary. 2006 01:38:37,845 --> 01:38:39,725 I I would ask that you would do that. 2007 01:38:39,905 --> 01:38:41,085 I'm more than happy to do that. 2008 01:38:42,505 --> 01:38:45,005 I'm more than happy to have to show 2009 01:38:45,005 --> 01:38:46,605 that on the, the final plan. 2010 01:38:47,265 --> 01:38:48,595 And that can be a condition. 2011 01:38:51,985 --> 01:38:55,205 We could say something like on, on the final plan, 2012 01:38:55,665 --> 01:38:59,885 the proposed septic will move to the area currently 2013 01:39:00,925 --> 01:39:04,485 occupied by the text that labels the property proposed 2014 01:39:05,065 --> 01:39:06,085 map, plot six, whatever. 2015 01:39:06,985 --> 01:39:10,885 And then the, the well will move to behind the house 2016 01:39:10,885 --> 01:39:13,765 with an appropriate 75 foot protective radius. 2017 01:39:13,805 --> 01:39:15,125 I think that might be specific enough 2018 01:39:15,125 --> 01:39:16,845 to cover us if we wanted 2019 01:39:16,845 --> 01:39:19,005 to have it just changed on the final mil alarm. 2020 01:39:19,635 --> 01:39:22,845 Okay. Does anyone have any thoughts on that Mr. Chase? 2021 01:39:23,305 --> 01:39:25,365 No, that, that would be fine, especially with 2022 01:39:27,515 --> 01:39:31,205 town engineering department has no issues with the changes 2023 01:39:31,545 --> 01:39:33,365 and hearing testimony from the neighbor 2024 01:39:33,365 --> 01:39:37,525 where his is actually in that configuration 2025 01:39:37,755 --> 01:39:39,805 that would be more harmonious with the neighbors 2026 01:39:39,805 --> 01:39:41,285 and I think that would be much better. 2027 01:39:41,285 --> 01:39:43,965 But it needs to be laid out on, on the plan. 2028 01:39:45,125 --> 01:39:48,605 I agree. I I think that would be a good idea. Okay. 2029 01:39:48,915 --> 01:39:52,725 Alright. So let's, let's make that a condition of approval 2030 01:39:52,865 --> 01:39:54,325 to allow the, the well 2031 01:39:54,325 --> 01:39:58,485 and septic swap only describe roughly on the plat 2032 01:39:58,485 --> 01:40:00,925 where those things are gonna land. Okay. For 2033 01:40:00,925 --> 01:40:01,925 The final mile. 2034 01:40:01,925 --> 01:40:02,325 Your language was very good. 2035 01:40:02,385 --> 01:40:05,005 So we will, we will utilize your language. 2036 01:40:05,555 --> 01:40:06,805 Okay. If it's made 2037 01:40:06,805 --> 01:40:08,365 as a motion, don't to repeat because I probably can't. 2038 01:40:08,785 --> 01:40:10,045 No, I got bad news. 2039 01:40:11,135 --> 01:40:12,325 We'll, we'll review. Well it's on tape. 2040 01:40:12,325 --> 01:40:15,645 We that's what I just said to Caroline, the tape. Yeah. 2041 01:40:15,645 --> 01:40:16,645 Yeah. 2042 01:40:16,985 --> 01:40:17,885 And I think that might 2043 01:40:18,045 --> 01:40:19,125 I, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt. 2044 01:40:19,205 --> 01:40:20,765 I think that also might be good for us to see that too, 2045 01:40:20,765 --> 01:40:24,205 because who knows that septics thing could, 2046 01:40:25,175 --> 01:40:27,205 could disturb your proposed driveway as well. 2047 01:40:27,765 --> 01:40:30,045 I I've got mostly, mostly I've got it mostly designed 2048 01:40:30,045 --> 01:40:31,085 if not all the way designed. 2049 01:40:31,155 --> 01:40:33,285 It's, it works. It's beautiful. Okay. 2050 01:40:33,385 --> 01:40:36,765 So one of the things about septics is the planning board 2051 01:40:36,765 --> 01:40:38,725 doesn't have an awful lot to say about them. 2052 01:40:39,265 --> 01:40:42,325 And HD ask is really the god of septics. 2053 01:40:43,105 --> 01:40:45,845 So whatever they come back with, we, we live with, right? 2054 01:40:46,155 --> 01:40:47,925 They've gotten very strict lately too. 2055 01:40:47,925 --> 01:40:51,645 There was a big rewrite that took place in February, so 2056 01:40:52,675 --> 01:40:53,675 Yeah. 2057 01:40:53,675 --> 01:40:55,085 So I mean, we can look at it again, 2058 01:40:55,085 --> 01:40:56,005 but if we don't like it, we 2059 01:40:56,165 --> 01:40:57,085 probably can't do anything about it. 2060 01:40:59,905 --> 01:41:02,965 You'll, you'll like it. Anything else? 2061 01:41:04,305 --> 01:41:05,405 That's It. Okay. 2062 01:41:08,425 --> 01:41:10,525 One more last chance from the public. No. 2063 01:41:11,155 --> 01:41:13,125 Okay, let's close the hearing. 2064 01:41:14,125 --> 01:41:15,285 A motion to close the public hearing. 2065 01:41:15,385 --> 01:41:17,205 Second, moved by Melody 2066 01:41:17,265 --> 01:41:19,245 and seconded by Pier to close the public hearing. 2067 01:41:19,245 --> 01:41:21,525 All in fair to say, aye. Aye. 2068 01:41:21,525 --> 01:41:24,365 Public hearing is closed in the matter of waivers. 2069 01:41:24,925 --> 01:41:28,005 Mr. Chair, I move to grant a waiver from LDCR section one 2070 01:41:28,005 --> 01:41:32,925 70 dash 20 5G to allow the existing boundary monument 2071 01:41:33,765 --> 01:41:36,245 specifically a drill hole at the T intersection 2072 01:41:36,265 --> 01:41:38,725 of the Stonewall to remain as a right of way monument. 2073 01:41:39,375 --> 01:41:41,445 After review of the waiver request, 2074 01:41:41,465 --> 01:41:43,845 the board finds the specific circumstances relative 2075 01:41:43,845 --> 01:41:47,125 to the plan or conditions of the land in such plan indicate 2076 01:41:47,125 --> 01:41:49,085 that the waiver will properly carry out the spirit 2077 01:41:49,145 --> 01:41:50,485 and intent of the regulations. 2078 01:41:52,265 --> 01:41:56,365 Second, moved by Alby, seconded by Peir to grant a waiver 2079 01:41:56,475 --> 01:41:57,725 regarding the boundary. 2080 01:41:58,065 --> 01:41:59,325 We have talked about this a lot. 2081 01:42:00,145 --> 01:42:04,085 Is everyone happy with the fact 2082 01:42:04,085 --> 01:42:06,205 that we think this drill hole is legal 2083 01:42:06,345 --> 01:42:08,805 and probably in a big enough rock that's not gonna move 2084 01:42:08,805 --> 01:42:10,325 that we don't need to worry further 2085 01:42:10,465 --> 01:42:14,725 and that we could without bad conscience, grant this waiver? 2086 01:42:17,965 --> 01:42:19,725 'cause I don't, I don't if we're gonna grant the waiver, 2087 01:42:19,845 --> 01:42:20,885 I don't see any purpose in, 2088 01:42:20,885 --> 01:42:23,245 in attaching me condition, subsequent conditions. 2089 01:42:27,915 --> 01:42:31,765 Okay, Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. 2090 01:42:32,875 --> 01:42:37,685 Nini? Yes. Mr. Ey? Yes. Mr. Ello? Yes. Pier? 2091 01:42:37,825 --> 01:42:40,685 Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. And the chair votes? 2092 01:42:40,685 --> 01:42:42,845 Yes. Findings of fact, 2093 01:42:43,705 --> 01:42:44,705 Mr. 2094 01:42:44,705 --> 01:42:46,725 Chair, the board finds a proposed plan provides safe 2095 01:42:46,725 --> 01:42:49,485 and efficient vehicular access and the design 2096 01:42:49,485 --> 01:42:51,125 and construction of the roadway is adequate 2097 01:42:51,125 --> 01:42:52,685 to accommodate the anticipated volume 2098 01:42:52,685 --> 01:42:54,445 of traffic proposed by the development. 2099 01:42:54,985 --> 01:42:56,725 The board finds the stormwater management 2100 01:42:56,745 --> 01:42:58,245 as proposed is designed 2101 01:42:58,245 --> 01:43:00,005 to control the post-development runoffs so 2102 01:43:00,005 --> 01:43:02,085 that it does not exceed pre-development runoff. 2103 01:43:02,565 --> 01:43:03,565 I move to agree with the 2104 01:43:03,565 --> 01:43:05,285 above noted findings of fact. Second, 2105 01:43:05,975 --> 01:43:07,085 Moved by alibi 2106 01:43:07,085 --> 01:43:09,245 and seconded by Palantier to make findings of fact. 2107 01:43:09,345 --> 01:43:14,285 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. Ey? Yes. 2108 01:43:14,425 --> 01:43:17,725 Mr. Church? Yes. Mr. Palantier? Yes. Mr. Maby? Yes. Mr. 2109 01:43:17,725 --> 01:43:20,725 Chair Woods? Yes. And on the approval. Alright, 2110 01:43:20,745 --> 01:43:22,045 I'm gonna be fishing 2111 01:43:22,145 --> 01:43:23,965 for some help on one of these conditions. 2112 01:43:25,135 --> 01:43:26,685 After review and deliberation 2113 01:43:26,745 --> 01:43:29,005 of the two lot subdivision plan application 2114 01:43:29,005 --> 01:43:33,445 for PID oh 6 0 5 9, the Murdoch family revocable trust, 2115 01:43:33,865 --> 01:43:36,045 the board finds the applicant has satisfied the general 2116 01:43:36,045 --> 01:43:38,445 requirements of the land Development Control regulations 2117 01:43:39,185 --> 01:43:41,245 or in cases where the regulation cannot be met, 2118 01:43:41,265 --> 01:43:42,925 has satisfied the waiver requirements. 2119 01:43:43,315 --> 01:43:45,645 Therefore, the motion is to approve pursuant 2120 01:43:45,645 --> 01:43:50,205 to RSA 6 76 4 Roman one completed 2121 01:43:50,205 --> 01:43:52,285 application with the following conditions, 2122 01:43:53,585 --> 01:43:56,405 the conditions precedent, subject to owner's signature, 2123 01:43:56,795 --> 01:43:59,165 establish escrow for the setting of bounds 2124 01:43:59,165 --> 01:44:00,525 or certify the bounds have been set, 2125 01:44:00,955 --> 01:44:02,565 establish appropriate escrow 2126 01:44:02,585 --> 01:44:03,925 as required to complete the project. 2127 01:44:04,715 --> 01:44:07,765 Note approved waivers on the plan or waiver on the plan. 2128 01:44:08,265 --> 01:44:11,085 Obtain written approval from the planning director designee 2129 01:44:11,085 --> 01:44:13,925 that the GIS submission is received and is operable 2130 01:44:13,925 --> 01:44:15,565 and it complies with LDCR. 2131 01:44:15,565 --> 01:44:19,765 Section one 70 dash 24 C Subject 2132 01:44:19,865 --> 01:44:21,485 to receipt of applicable state 2133 01:44:21,485 --> 01:44:23,205 or local permits relating to the project. 2134 01:44:24,145 --> 01:44:27,045 Update note six To clarify the intended form 2135 01:44:27,045 --> 01:44:29,285 of fire protection submission 2136 01:44:29,285 --> 01:44:31,285 of the appropriate recording fees payable 2137 01:44:31,285 --> 01:44:33,245 to the Rockham County Registry of Deeds. 2138 01:44:33,675 --> 01:44:37,285 This includes a $25 L chip fee recording fees for the Mylar 2139 01:44:37,285 --> 01:44:40,205 and the notice of decision conditions precedent 2140 01:44:40,205 --> 01:44:41,405 shall be met within six months. 2141 01:44:42,625 --> 01:44:45,005 The well location will move behind the home 2142 01:44:45,195 --> 01:44:47,205 with the appropriate 75 foot radius 2143 01:44:48,105 --> 01:44:51,285 and the proposed septic will move to which text? 2144 01:44:51,545 --> 01:44:54,645 The, the, the front of the house in the location 2145 01:44:54,665 --> 01:44:56,205 of the proposed map. 2146 01:44:56,265 --> 01:44:59,085 Six lot. 59 dash one new area. 2147 01:44:59,335 --> 01:45:01,965 69,000 7 0 7 square feet. 2148 01:45:02,105 --> 01:45:06,125 1.60 acres as it exists on the current plat. 2149 01:45:06,875 --> 01:45:08,485 Perfect. Thank you. 2150 01:45:08,865 --> 01:45:11,365 And then condition, subsequent subject 2151 01:45:11,425 --> 01:45:13,405 to onsite inspection by the towns engineer. 2152 01:45:13,545 --> 01:45:14,545 Second 2153 01:45:16,055 --> 01:45:19,245 Moved by Mamby, seconded by Peir to grant approval. 2154 01:45:19,785 --> 01:45:24,565 Mr. Chase? Yes. Mr. Wood? Yes. Mr. Menini? Yes. Mr. 2155 01:45:24,885 --> 01:45:29,045 Ey? Yes. Thank Ello? Yes. Mr. Pier? Yes. Dear Alibi. Yes. 2156 01:45:29,055 --> 01:45:32,405 Chair votes. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. 2157 01:45:33,685 --> 01:45:37,245 I appreciate being honest about that too. Thank you. 2158 01:45:38,035 --> 01:45:40,405 Alright, we are now onto board member comments. 2159 01:45:44,355 --> 01:45:48,245 Hearing none, may I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. 2160 01:45:48,385 --> 01:45:52,485 Second. Moved by ee, seconded by biller to adjourn. 2161 01:45:52,485 --> 01:45:56,765 Those in favor say aye. Aye. Please stand adjourned. I.