[0:04] I'd like to call the Dairy Conservation
[0:06] Commission meeting to order.
[0:10] Ask everybody to silence their cell phones.
[0:18] And we're gonna start things off with Pledge of Allegiance.
[0:26] I pledge allegiance to the flag
[0:28] of the United States of America
[0:30] and to the Republic for which stands?
[0:33] One Nation, Liberty, God, indivisible, Liberty, and Justice.
[0:43] Thank you. Emergency exits are
[0:45] located at the back of the building.
[0:46] And to my right, if there's an emergency in the building,
[0:49] please do not use the elevator.
[0:51] Use the stairs. If you need assistance,
[0:53] please ask someone from Dairy TV
[0:56] or one of the commissioners for assistance.
[0:59] We'll start our meeting off
[1:00] with the introduction of commissioners.
[1:02] We'll start to my right.
[1:05] Christopher Morlock. Cheryl Holbert.
[1:08] Rick Metz. Bob Spro.
[1:11] Ilene Chabo. Pam Laro.
[1:14] Linda Cony. Val Connolly.
[1:18] And I'm the chair. Ricardo bga.
[1:21] We're gonna have our recording secretary taking minutes.
[1:25] Viader tv. So I want everybody to kinda speak up tonight.
[1:28] Gotcha. So she can see,
[1:31] so she can pick it up off the broadcast.
[1:34] We are missing Jay tonight.
[1:36] And I'm gonna have Christopher,
[1:38] can you sit for Jay this evening?
[1:40] Yes. And I don't think we're
[1:42] missing any other commissioners.
[1:43] Is that accurate? No. Okay, good.
[1:49] Just one. We'll stop the meeting
[1:51] off with the approval of minutes.
[1:53] Everyone should have gotten a digital copy
[1:54] and there's also a copy in front of you.
[1:57] If there's no, no corrections needed,
[1:59] I'll entertain a motion to approve.
[2:02] I don't have a copy.
[2:09] Have she got one? This bug? Yeah. Bug you one.
[2:12] Do you want 'em? Sure. It's good. I brought my own
[2:47] We little business to do.
[5:25] Eileen, do you see needs to be addressed?
[5:27] No, I don't. I would make a motion to approve the meeting,
[5:30] the meeting minutes of our last meeting on
[5:34] May 4th, 2026.
[5:36] Second, let's hear first by E Lien. Second by Mr. Matt.
[5:39] Solos in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
[5:44] We have a unanimous vote and we have one abstention.
[5:48] Bob Sperl is abstaining. Two myself as well.
[5:52] We have two abstentions.
[5:53] So we still have five to two, five votes.
[5:56] So the motion carries two abstentions, commissioner, Sperl
[6:01] and, and Bell.
[6:05] Okay. Next order of business is
[6:12] the chair's report and correspondence.
[6:14] I'm gonna put 'em together. We're still very busy.
[6:19] Beth and I have our weekly phone call
[6:24] moving our agenda forward.
[6:25] Committee's a meeting and doing their work.
[6:29] We had a, a good meeting with Owen prior to this meeting.
[6:35] How we're integrating Dairy Cam into,
[6:38] into Dairy Conservation Commission
[6:41] and getting our information out to the public.
[6:45] So we're busy. Very busy.
[6:47] I'm gonna, I'm gonna go this kind, go through this kind
[6:49] of quickly 'cause we have a, a full agenda tonight
[6:51] and I don't wanna be here until midnight, so
[6:54] I'm gonna kind of blast through this.
[6:56] We're working, you actually have a copy of this. Yep. Mr.
[7:00] Metz, we're working on a sample letter,
[7:02] a sample solicitation letter to landowners in town
[7:07] that we're gonna be sending as we, as we find properties
[7:10] that are on our target list
[7:13] as potential conservation properties.
[7:15] So we have our sample letter, Ms. Mr.
[7:18] Metz, myself
[7:20] and Beth are gonna continue tweaking that letter
[7:22] once I think it's ready for the, for the whole commission
[7:25] to look at and chime in.
[7:27] We'll, we'll be putting it forward to them.
[7:29] In our meeting with Owen today, we're gonna use excerpts of
[7:33] that letter in social media
[7:35] and on dairy TV soliciting
[7:39] properties from people tuning into Dairy TV
[7:43] and to the numerous dairy social media sites.
[7:49] We've been asked by the Beaver Lake Watershed,
[7:51] the Beaver Lake Improvement Association,
[7:53] to participate in their watershed management plan.
[7:56] It was something that was put together in 2007
[7:58] and we're we're, they're, they're doing a new one.
[8:01] They're asked, they've asked us to get involved.
[8:03] It's a plan that they, they to do together with
[8:07] DES in the town of Derry.
[8:10] We're gonna be meeting with them
[8:12] and potentially assign a commissioner to that process.
[8:17] The initial meeting will probably be myself.
[8:19] Maybe Beth will join me.
[8:21] And then depending on what the meeting schedule
[8:24] and the workload on that will probably
[8:27] assign a commissioner to that project.
[8:31] We are working on the deed restriction for Broadview Farm
[8:35] and Beth is gonna go over that in her land manager report.
[8:40] We have our first agricultural lease land lease agreement,
[8:44] actually paper deal, at least the first one
[8:46] that we've had since I've been on the commission for 15
[8:49] or 17 years, however long it's been.
[8:51] And I have that, I'm gonna hand it to my right.
[8:52] Bob already took a look at it
[8:53] and liked it, so it's gonna go this way first.
[8:56] You can look at it. And that's for the Broadview Farm
[9:01] Meadow kind of behind between Broadview
[9:04] and I guess that's East Area Road,
[9:06] right road, east Area Road, yeah.
[9:09] South sent me a field
[9:10] and management series workshop that's gonna go to my left.
[9:15] Eileen's probably gonna tell us about that too.
[9:18] And we have a reported, alleged violation,
[9:20] 63 English Range Road der that's gonna go to my left.
[9:24] That's a communication from DES.
[9:28] We have a flyer from Salt Everlasting.
[9:33] It's about, kind of talks about
[9:35] how many properties they've conserved
[9:38] and it talks about some
[9:39] of the people involved in their process.
[9:41] I've worked with, I think most of the people
[9:43] that are pictured in this.
[9:47] We've started a process checking the revenues coming into
[9:50] the commission prior to our meeting.
[9:53] And Beth meets me.
[9:56] So has a, has a, a communication
[9:58] with the dairy finance people.
[10:00] We're continuing to receive revenues from
[10:04] the numerous projects in town where the,
[10:06] where the properties are in current use
[10:08] and they're paying the current use exchange tax.
[10:11] So revenues remain fairly strong for us
[10:16] That we're gonna be using hopefully soon on the, on the two
[10:19] or three conservation properties
[10:21] that we're considering right now.
[10:27] And I believe that's all I have. Are we ready for? Yeah.
[10:33] Okay. So first order of business outside of
[10:36] our regular agenda is a site plan review.
[10:39] It is map 10 lot 12, 180 7 Hampton Road.
[10:42] The au the owner
[10:44] is, that's for Ricky, right?
[10:48] Yeah, the owner is
[10:53] one is Byrd Enterprise.
[10:56] LLC 41 Rage Road.
[10:58] Windham, New Hampshire Surveyor is the Meisner Brim
[11:02] Corporation of Salem, New Hampshire.
[11:04] They're presenting a site plan review. Thanks.
[11:08] The applicant, Jay Yco is here
[11:12] and the presenter is Kurt Meisner.
[11:15] Everyone should have a copy of an 11 by 17 plan.
[11:19] And I have a full, a full page set.
[11:23] I think we're trying to get a
[11:26] another set up on the screen here.
[11:30] 30 tv. Are we gonna get a set up on the screen?
[11:35] Beth, did they get your zip drive? Say that again.
[11:38] Did they get your zip drive? Yes. Okay.
[11:51] Dairy tv. Gimme a signal.
[11:52] Are we gonna get that up on the screen
[11:54] or should we, should we proceed?
[11:56] Proceed. Proceed. Thank you. Okay.
[12:00] Kurt, we have plans in front of us.
[12:01] You have one in front of you. Why don't you bring
[12:02] run, run through it for us.
[12:04] I do. Good evening, Mr. Chairman and board members.
[12:06] I'm Kurt Marner with Meer Brim Corporation.
[12:09] This is Jay anco.
[12:10] He's the proprietor of the owner of Bird Enterprises.
[12:14] We are here tonight. We have a, an amended minor site plan.
[12:20] This site plan was approved back in February of
[12:24] 2025.
[12:26] And basically, if you see on the second sheet of
[12:30] what we're looking at, the,
[12:33] the general site was the existing church site
[12:36] that's at 180 7 Hampstead Street and Hampstead Road.
[12:40] And that's about an eight and a half acre site.
[12:44] At the time, we were utilizing probably about a half
[12:47] of the site with an existing parking
[12:50] lot, the existing building.
[12:52] And Mr. Yco has sort of retrofitted that
[12:56] for his business purposes
[12:57] and the, in the uses that he has, which is basically a,
[13:02] a landscape supply company
[13:04] and Northeast Elite Athletics,
[13:08] which is inside the building.
[13:10] The landscape supply company is basically
[13:12] outside of the building.
[13:14] So what we're hoping to amend
[13:17] to the site plan now is a small area of upland
[13:20] that's located on the south it east corner.
[13:25] It's shown on the second sheet.
[13:27] And you can see there's a red dotted line that runs
[13:31] around the upland.
[13:33] And, and that wetland that is shown there was field located
[13:37] by Tom Sokolowski of TES Environmental.
[13:43] And what we're hoping to do is to utilize that area for
[13:47] a stock holding area.
[13:49] So he purchases nursery stock,
[13:54] he's gonna place it on that spot of land there
[13:58] and hold it as a storage area.
[14:01] So that's the general idea of what we're doing.
[14:05] The only other portion of that that needs
[14:08] to have any addition is the, is a,
[14:12] a gravel pathway
[14:14] that runs from the existing parking lot over to, to
[14:18] that upland area.
[14:21] We have shown on sheet three.
[14:26] We show a detail of a, a mulch berm
[14:30] that basically goes right around the circumference of the,
[14:34] of the entire piece of upland there
[14:36] for protection of the wetlands.
[14:38] That's an organic mulch, mulch, berm.
[14:44] So I guess
[14:46] that's a general overall view of what we're looking to do.
[14:48] So if you have questions of myself
[14:51] or Jay, we're happy to help you.
[14:56] Thank you. The, the gravel driveway
[15:01] that's, that goes over there that you, that's existing.
[15:04] That's, that's it says existing on the, on the,
[15:07] It's there now?
[15:08] Yes. It, it was not there when,
[15:13] when we had the original site plan approved back in January
[15:16] of, of oh of 25.
[15:20] But they put that in there to work, you know,
[15:24] they cut down some of the brush
[15:26] and scrub that was in there
[15:28] to see if the area was suitable to use. Right.
[15:31] O only a portion of that's there.
[15:32] Just, just off of the pavement now. Okay.
[15:34] Across that whole way. I'd have to continue that.
[15:36] I don't, I don't have it all there now.
[15:37] So what is that like, gonna be like a crushed stone?
[15:39] That's it. Just a crushed stone.
[15:40] There's not just an access path. Right. That's it.
[15:42] There's not a wetland. Is there a wetland crossing there?
[15:46] There is not, no.
[15:47] So that where it gets into the, where,
[15:49] where the wetlands come real tight.
[15:50] That was not a wetland that crossed there. That
[15:52] Was, that was not, and that was, you know, we had
[15:55] that field located by to koski
[15:58] and there was a gap between the, the wetland.
[16:01] Yeah, I can, that's probably why
[16:02] the, it's curved like that.
[16:06] You gonna be using equipment on that
[16:09] Small?
[16:10] Yes, I will. Small equipment.
[16:10] Either four forklifts, stuff like that. The, the,
[16:12] the largest piece of equipment would there be over there
[16:13] would be a, it's called an SVL 75 Kubota Skid Steer.
[16:17] Which is a track machine. Yeah.
[16:18] I the least invasive of of Right. Our equipment. Yep. So
[16:22] You're not bringing tractor
[16:22] trailers in there or anything like
[16:24] That?
[16:25] I'm not, no. No. The, the pathway is simply just
[16:26] for, for our use only.
[16:28] It would be either that or, you know, hand carts or whatnot.
[16:32] Are you storing any mechanical equipment over there?
[16:35] No. Not gonna keep
[16:36] Trucks or everything. Organic
[16:38] Forklifts or any of that stuff over there? No,
[16:39] I will not.
[16:40] I have plenty of space for that. Otherwise. Yeah,
[16:42] There's plenty. Plenty of parking.
[16:43] Plenty of parking. With it being holding stock,
[16:47] are you gonna be spraying any excess fertilizers
[16:49] or some nutrients for storage?
[16:51] Hold on one second. We don't fertilize.
[16:52] Before you answer Val, can you just either turn up your mic?
[16:54] I could barely hear you, so I'm sure that Tammy can't,
[16:58] Matt, That's gimme like a 1, 2, 3 count.
[17:01] 1, 2, 3, go. Good. It's as high as I can go.
[17:04] That's good. The an,
[17:05] the short answer's no, the long answer.
[17:08] Sorry. Sorry Mr Echo,
[17:09] could you just ask the question? Oh, sorry,
[17:10] Sorry. Just, just re
[17:11] I'm excited just so you know.
[17:12] Have we have the,
[17:13] our our recording secretary is gonna do this remotely,
[17:15] so she's gonna pick it up off the TV in order
[17:16] to take the, take the minutes. Yes,
[17:18] Of course.
[17:19] Sorry Tammy, my question was, will there be any ex spraying
[17:23] of fertilizers or needed nutrients for the stock
[17:26] to be held over there?
[17:29] The short an, like I said, the short answer is no.
[17:31] The long answer is a, a re wholesale nursery, like myself,
[17:34] we're predominantly a wholesale nursery.
[17:36] We do sell to the public, but wholesaling industry, we,
[17:38] we don't fertilize anything.
[17:40] We don't do any spraying. We don't have any,
[17:42] we don't have any licenses
[17:43] for spraying in the state of New Hampshire.
[17:44] You have to be approved in a pesticide
[17:46] or to give fertilizer.
[17:47] We don't do any of that. So the answer is no.
[17:51] And I think I heard too,
[17:53] but just clarifying earlier, it sounded like the curve
[17:56] of the wetland, the spot where you had the gravel path.
[17:59] Now there was a gap between the two.
[18:01] So it's, there shouldn't be
[18:02] any, a need of filling or anything. Yeah,
[18:04] There's no filling of the wetland.
[18:06] This is just a, there is a, it loops around
[18:08] and then it actually just doesn't touch each other.
[18:12] Gotcha. Okay. Thank you.
[18:15] On the, on the berm, there's a berm,
[18:19] a berm detail here
[18:20] and there's an elaborate process for the type of berm
[18:25] that's used and a best practices
[18:31] regarding regarding rain events
[18:33] and inspections and stuff like that.
[18:34] Is all that stuff gonna be conducted by you, Mr. Yco?
[18:37] Are you outsourcing that or is that gonna be done in house?
[18:40] Thank you. Thank you Owen.
[18:41] No, that, that'll be done by us.
[18:43] We have the capabilities and the ability to do exactly that.
[18:47] Our, our nursery stock currently
[18:49] and has been for the 20 years I've been in business is all
[18:52] for no better terms called healed in.
[18:54] So you dig a small portion just
[18:56] basically so it doesn't tip over.
[18:57] Sure. You know, a tree or something like that.
[18:59] And then it's mulched in, so we already use wood chips
[19:03] or organic materials, any organic material being wood chips
[19:07] or stump grindings for all of our product anyway.
[19:09] Right. So we're kind of like,
[19:11] everything gets filtered regardless.
[19:12] That's just what we do because it's, it makes
[19:15] Sense.
[19:16] The ber the berm itself, the
[19:16] Berm will be put up by us.
[19:17] Yeah. And it'll be maintained by us, inspected by you guys.
[19:20] We already have the materials on site.
[19:22] It was suggested by TRC
[19:24] that we use the actual stump grindings 'cause they're longer
[19:27] and grainier, which we already,
[19:28] I contacted Mike Mulch company.
[19:30] They actually had it. So we already had it delivered. Yep.
[19:33] Perfect. Now memory serves me. Right.
[19:36] All those, all those plants
[19:37] and shrubs in this new storage area.
[19:40] Bald Right. For the most part,
[19:44] For the most part will be bald and burlap.
[19:46] Okay. Yes. The things that might not be bald and burlap
[19:50] or the only things that I would choose to not be bald
[19:52] and burlap in there would be something that,
[19:54] that shade life loving rend.
[19:58] Yep. Azalea something to that effect.
[20:00] Because we fully intend on keeping
[20:02] that canopy. I'm not, I'm not cutting.
[20:04] And and val to your your point,
[20:07] they don't add any fertilizers,
[20:08] but those balls do contain fertilized soil.
[20:11] Yes. No. So the root
[20:13] Balls of trees do not generally contain fertilizers.
[20:17] The fertilizers that the root balls come in,
[20:19] in field grow material are done over a course
[20:22] of time at the growing nurseries.
[20:25] And then when, by the time they dig them,
[20:27] there's no fertilizer left in those trees.
[20:29] Okay. Right. The containerized materials do have a slow
[20:32] release tablet in there.
[20:34] It's only done if you, again, you're, you're dating back,
[20:37] your memory's a little bit better than mine.
[20:39] I had to go back and review. They use Yeah, of course.
[20:42] They use a slow re slow release pellets in the
[20:45] containerized materials.
[20:46] Think of it like a BB
[20:49] and that that is done
[20:51] that only releases when the plant is in the ground
[20:54] for more than 14 days.
[20:56] And the temperature of the soil is 70 degrees or greater.
[20:59] So it never releases in, in my nursery.
[21:01] It's only once it's given to the given implant.
[21:06] I just wanted to follow up on that
[21:07] 'cause I know you talked about that during, during
[21:09] T Yes, we did.
[21:10] Thank you.
[21:12] Any other comments or questions from the commission?
[21:15] Yeah, I do. That proposed tree
[21:18] and shrub storage area, was that never a wetland
[21:22] or was that a previously filled wetland?
[21:24] 'cause it just seems like an odd kind of an odd shape,
[21:28] you know, where there's wetlands all around.
[21:30] You don't believe so, which just seems kind of very odd
[21:32] that it would just not, not be originally a wetland.
[21:35] Do you know whether that might have been previously filled
[21:38] by the church or, I,
[21:40] I, I can't imagine it was previously filled by the church.
[21:43] It doesn't appear to, I mean, there's trees on it.
[21:45] It just seems like an awful, there's tree on it.
[21:46] They're hundred years old. I know that
[21:48] To have not been, you know, it seems like
[21:50] that would've been a continuous wetland at one time.
[21:53] It was a wooded area, right? Wasn't it? It it,
[21:55] Oh, it's a wooded area.
[21:56] Yeah, I mean there's trees on it that are
[21:58] The old site plan for years.
[22:00] Church, the original site plan I think was 19.
[22:04] Oh, I'm gonna say 99. Was it 99?
[22:06] It, it shows exactly the wetland I'll say. I'd say exactly.
[22:11] It shows just like what you see up there.
[22:13] It shows it as upland Really.
[22:14] It does, yes. Yeah. Huh.
[22:16] Yeah, I know we did the site walk that was a forest,
[22:18] that area island that was like, like mature tree growth.
[22:22] Oh yeah. There's trees in there that are wrong. Well,
[22:25] Okay.
[22:26] I I just, I don't know.
[22:28] You could tell by the soil it's
[22:29] A higher elevation by bit. Yeah. When you,
[22:31] You can tell by the soil when you're walking out there
[22:33] that it's the elevation's up and it's
[22:36] It's like a domed area kind of. Yeah.
[22:38] Yeah. It's a, it maybe it doesn't look it on the plan,
[22:41] but it's, it's a big area.
[22:42] You can see the contours
[22:43] that show this sheet that we're looking at.
[22:45] Yeah, I see the contours, But
[22:46] it's eight feet higher. Yeah.
[22:48] Yeah. I I just wondered whether it was original that way
[22:50] or whether it was built up.
[22:52] That's all. It just, just seems like an awfully odd kind
[22:55] of configuration, but,
[22:58] Okay.
[22:59] Thanks Eileen. Any any, any, go ahead, Bob. Yeah,
[23:01] I, and I may have missed it if somebody already asked it
[23:04] of the gravel path that you have going to, it
[23:08] crosses a little bit of wetland.
[23:10] Is that gonna have a culvert under it for water passage
[23:13] or just, I'd
[23:14] Let you Know.
[23:15] It it, it does not, it that's the natural state right now.
[23:19] And I, I'm not sure.
[23:20] It sounded like you said it
[23:25] over the wetland.
[23:26] It's not over the wetland. It's between the wetland.
[23:29] So, okay. The wetland doesn't come through.
[23:31] It's just naturally that way that that's what
[23:33] Was Okay.
[23:34] But can water, that's a good question, Bob. Let's
[23:35] Can water come through that?
[23:37] Like I think that's what Bob's questioning is.
[23:39] No, like you've got, you've got wetland here
[23:42] and you have wetland on the other side of the path.
[23:44] Sure. Does water go underneath that gravel path in any way?
[23:49] No. And was it once connected, you know? No.
[23:51] Before the gravel path went
[23:53] In, does do that.
[23:54] Water goes around the other side.
[23:56] You can see the blue lines on this
[23:57] sheet that we're looking at.
[24:00] Any water that's on one side goes to the other
[24:03] and that's the way it fills in.
[24:05] Just around the topography.
[24:09] I just don't, yeah, I don't see how it gets there.
[24:12] I guess it, it's coming down wet one's coming down here.
[24:15] It looks, looks like the gravel path. Bisects.
[24:18] I can two ends of the wetland.
[24:24] Like there's a
[24:25] Crossing there.
[24:26] So any, any water that's in here
[24:27] can travel right through here.
[24:30] Or actually water that's here can travel down through here.
[24:33] It's out there. So the water,
[24:35] But what about here, Back around,
[24:37] you had it right the first travel?
[24:38] Yeah. Almost like the gravel path is a dam.
[24:41] Is that what it
[24:42] I, You know, is it acting as a dam? Sure.
[24:45] I, I'll agree with those terms.
[24:47] I guess for the purposes of what we're talking about,
[24:48] there's a, it's just a little
[24:51] Old feet Or something.
[24:52] A natural. Yeah, it's about 12 or 15 feet wide. Little berm.
[24:57] Huh? Just like, just like a lot of things.
[25:01] I mean if you, if you walk through the woodland anywhere,
[25:03] there's a lot of places where, you know, pond stop
[25:07] and they loop around and Well
[25:08] You said that's just what it does.
[25:09] Well you said previously though, that
[25:10] that gravel path wasn't previously there.
[25:13] The last time you came before us. It it's
[25:15] Not, it's currently not.
[25:16] It, it's, I'm wonder
[25:17] Beginning of it, it's wonder like when you came before us
[25:19] before, what did that area look like?
[25:21] Was it the same as now was well connected? In other words?
[25:24] It it was connected, huh?
[25:26] It's the exact same shape
[25:28] and configuration as it always has been.
[25:31] Okay. And that includes back
[25:32] to when the church was built.
[25:34] Okay. No, I think we can go
[25:36] stewardship on that one too.
[25:39] Cool. Concept
[26:15] commissioners.
[26:16] Does anyone have any que any other questions
[26:17] regarding the the plan? Yeah,
[26:19] I have one more question regarding the drainage
[26:22] that's shown here in the parking lot.
[26:25] Was that previously there there's a pipe
[26:27] that goes out to the wetland.
[26:29] It doesn't sh doesn't say what size pipe that is,
[26:31] but a pipe that discharges into the wetland.
[26:36] All, all the drainage discharge that's on this drainage
[26:40] It, oh, go on This plan.
[26:42] It's sheet number.
[26:45] What is this? You've Got two of
[26:46] Three sheet.
[26:47] Two of three. It shows a, a culvert pipe going out.
[26:52] The, I believe you're talking about this area right here.
[26:55] Yes. Right. Was that always there?
[26:57] That was, well, it, it was installed when
[27:01] the church was constructed.
[27:02] Okay. So, so that's always been there. Guess.
[27:04] Okay. I just, just, that was my question, whether
[27:06] that's something new or that was always there.
[27:08] Okay. Thank you.
[27:15] Any other questions or comments from the commission?
[27:21] Seeing none, Mr.
[27:22] Meisner, what is the protocol that you need this commission
[27:25] to, to accomplish for you
[27:26] This evening?
[27:27] So what we're here
[27:28] for is hopefully a positive recommendation for you to send
[27:32] to the planning board that,
[27:34] that this board recommends approval from them
[27:38] of the plan as we've shown it.
[27:42] So recommending approval would be
[27:43] something that we don't normally
[27:45] do. So I would to take
[27:50] A, maybe a better term would be
[27:51] acceptance for this board, right?
[27:53] Yeah. So our, our motions need
[27:57] to be made in the affirmative.
[27:59] So I think what the, what the petitioner is looking for is
[28:02] that we do not object to anything on the plan.
[28:06] So it would be, I would entertain a motion
[28:10] that sounded something like that.
[28:12] I think that would satisfy the applicant moving forward.
[28:18] If, if there's a commissioner
[28:19] that's willing to make that motion
[28:22] Move to accept and approve the plan revisions presented
[28:27] for 180 7 Hampstead Road, dairy New Hampshire
[28:29] by Bird Enterprises.
[28:30] LLC.
[28:32] Second. I'll second that. Can
[28:34] I make a friendly amendment, Mr.
[28:35] Mr. Metz? Sure. Because we're not gonna sign this plan.
[28:40] We're not really approving it. Yeah.
[28:41] We're not gonna accept it or approve it.
[28:42] It may be something to the nature of
[28:44] that we don't have objection
[28:46] to anything happening in the revised site plan review.
[28:51] Okay, I'll restate it then.
[28:53] Conservation Commission has no objections
[28:56] to the revised plan presented for 180 7 Hampstead Road.
[29:00] Map 10, law number 12.
[29:03] There's a first by Mr. Metz. Second.
[29:05] There's a second. First and second on the floor.
[29:07] Those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
[29:13] Unanimous. Motion carries. Thanks guys.
[29:15] Thank you very much folks. Thank you. You have a good
[29:17] Night.
[29:18] You too. I'm gonna give you these full set back
[29:20] because these are really our,
[29:22] our land manager did such a great job on these,
[29:24] this satisfy,
[29:37] You don't need this
[30:07] No, right here.
[30:12] Oh, Oh, for the,
[30:17] Okay.
[30:18] Good work on that site plan.
[30:19] I review Our next order
[30:20] of business is our i naturalist training with Steven Lamond
[30:25] from Moose Wood Ecological.
[30:27] And I think Owen is getting him, getting him queued up,
[30:36] Huh?
[30:42] Yeah, that's why I bought that. Somebody made this.
[30:45] It's nice. Yeah. It's got a little gross
[30:48] on your credit cards.
[30:49] Yeah, that's a
[30:53] whistle for what?
[30:56] Well, maybe, oh no, it's not this one.
[31:01] Wish it was. That's a safety whistle for me.
[31:10] Okay. It's in case you're out and about by yourself.
[31:13] It's very good.
[31:17] Hello everyone. Can you hear me?
[31:19] There he is. There he is. Who's that guy?
[31:22] Hello everyone. Well, he was there beside for a second.
[31:33] Besting time testing. There
[31:34] You are.
[31:35] Gotcha. Hey Steven.
[31:37] All righty. Hey everyone.
[31:39] I'm currently seeing two of myself, so let me
[31:44] make this a little less distracting.
[31:45] One second.
[31:53] Great. Good evening all.
[31:55] Thank you so much for making time on your agenda
[31:58] for this evening's iNaturalist training.
[32:01] I imagine most of you all know at this point
[32:04] that it we'll be hosting a BioBlitz at the Broadview Farm
[32:07] on June 27th.
[32:09] So just a couple weeks from now.
[32:12] So the goal for tonight is to me, for me
[32:14] to share a presentation with you all about iNaturalist,
[32:18] why it's important, how we're using it for the BioBlitz,
[32:22] and giving you all a, a quick primer on how
[32:24] to use iNaturalist come BioBlitz day,
[32:26] but also throughout the year.
[32:29] Does anyone have any questions before I dive in?
[32:32] No. All righty. I should be able to share my screen.
[32:46] Okay. Can you all see this?
[32:48] Yep. Great.
[32:53] So tonight I'll be talking about iNaturalist primarily.
[32:57] I can't see you all at the moment,
[32:59] but for your own sake, quick show of hands,
[33:01] who here has heard of or used iNaturalist before?
[33:07] Three hands. Alright, thank you. Great.
[33:11] So I'm, I'm really excited to be here tonight
[33:15] and for the three of you who have used
[33:17] or heard of iNaturalist before, feel free to chip in
[33:21] with any follow up questions over the course
[33:23] of this next month as we prepare for the BioBlitz.
[33:29] Okay. So just,
[33:31] I'm gonna give you a broad sense of biodiversity.
[33:34] We think of it as all the species on
[33:37] earth, but it's really more than that.
[33:38] It's all the genetic things that are present at
[33:43] that scale in addition to species as well
[33:45] as whole ecosystems.
[33:46] And so the town of dairy comprises of a lot
[33:48] of Appalachian oak forest as well as some hemlock hardwood,
[33:52] pine, lots of different kinds
[33:53] of wetlands and aquatic systems.
[33:55] And these all come together to form the foundation
[33:58] of the town's biodiversity.
[34:01] We value biodiversity for a lot of different reasons.
[34:05] We might not think of it on a day-to-day basis
[34:07] unless you're someone like me who's working in the
[34:09] environmental world all the time.
[34:11] But it maintains our air quality.
[34:14] It, it, it mitigates climate change.
[34:16] Hazards helps control water runoff.
[34:18] We value it from a recreational standpoint.
[34:21] We depend on it for food,
[34:23] for clean water and, and so much more.
[34:27] Sorry, is there a question?
[34:30] Nope, go ahead. Okay, sorry.
[34:33] And so there's all these benefits to it
[34:35] and the Broadview farm plays a large part
[34:37] of supporting the town's biodiversity.
[34:42] Unfortunately, we're in this environmental crisis
[34:45] where over the next century,
[34:47] a million species face the threat of extinction.
[34:50] And by do hosting this BioBlitz at the Broadview farm,
[34:54] we can better get a sense
[34:55] of which species are present in dairy
[34:58] and hopefully work to conserve them
[35:00] and preserve their presence on the landscape.
[35:02] Or in order to do that, we need people
[35:03] to show up to the BioBlitz.
[35:05] We need the Conservation commission
[35:06] to keep doing their good work
[35:08] and spreading the word about
[35:10] biodiversity and why it's important.
[35:14] So in order to do this, we need more people
[35:17] caring about nature and getting out to more places
[35:20] and finding more species as we know it.
[35:23] So far in New Hampshire, there's maybe 15,000 species
[35:27] of plants and wildlife that have been documented,
[35:30] but there's so much more out there that we just don't know.
[35:33] And so one of the great reasons to host a BioBlitz is
[35:35] to walk slowly even through a familiar place
[35:37] and find new species
[35:39] that hadn't been previously known either from that area,
[35:42] from the town, from the county,
[35:43] or even the state of New Hampshire.
[35:45] It's not uncommon that we find new species not previously
[35:48] known from New Hampshire during these kinds of events.
[35:52] So this is where iNaturalist comes in.
[35:54] It was founded in the mid two thousands
[35:56] and it's one of the largest
[35:58] biodiversity databases out there.
[36:00] And it makes it really easy for average people
[36:03] to participate and share their observations of nature
[36:08] with others, with scientists, with conservationists,
[36:11] with researchers to better preserve
[36:13] and understand our biodiversity.
[36:16] So there's an app version which is incredibly user
[36:19] friendly and it's free.
[36:21] They have it both for iOS and Android versions.
[36:24] There's also a website where you can dive into the data
[36:26] and explore it a bit more, but it's incredibly engaging.
[36:30] And all you need is a smartphone or an iPad
[36:33] or a camera where you can go out
[36:35] and take a picture of something you're seeing,
[36:37] you don't even have to know what it is, submit it
[36:39] to the platform and other iNaturalist users will come along
[36:42] and help validate, confirm
[36:44] or correct the initial identification.
[36:47] And this platform is widely used by, by scientists.
[36:51] Over a thousand academic papers were published using an
[36:54] naturalist data in 2024 alone.
[36:57] And so we might not always know when our observations are
[36:59] used by others to promote conservation
[37:01] and biodiversity preservation,
[37:03] but it is and it's really valuable.
[37:07] So here's how it works.
[37:09] If you want to take notes, feel free.
[37:11] But there's lots of great online training materials as well
[37:14] for you to brush up on,
[37:16] on your own time prior to the BioBlitz.
[37:18] And then I'll be there in person all day Saturday
[37:20] to answer any questions you may have in person.
[37:23] But ideally you all will have some time to get out
[37:25] of practice prior to the event.
[37:29] So step one is to download the app, create an account
[37:32] and log in and then go out and take a photo.
[37:35] You can either take a photo through the app
[37:38] or you could go through your phone's photo library
[37:41] and upload photos that you've already taken after the fact.
[37:45] This is one of the first things
[37:46] that I did when I learned about unnatural, is I went back
[37:49] through years of historic photos to figure out
[37:51] what I actually saw back in 2000 or or 1995.
[37:56] And so if you're using a regular camera, similar,
[37:58] you just upload your photos through the website.
[38:01] That's preferred for a lot of photographers
[38:03] who have nice cameras and like
[38:04] to take better pictures than a phone might.
[38:08] And then new as of just a couple years ago,
[38:09] you can also record sound.
[38:11] This makes it a lot easier to document birds as well
[38:14] as singing amphibians where they might go quiet
[38:18] or fly away if you try to get close enough for a photo,
[38:20] especially with your phone.
[38:22] So once you've gathered that evidence of the organism,
[38:26] you then submit it through the app
[38:28] or the website through the newer version of the app.
[38:31] It'll, it has a built-in AI that goes through your image
[38:35] and accounts for the time of year and the year
[38:37] and the location of the observation.
[38:40] And it gives top recommendations for what it is
[38:44] that you probably saw.
[38:46] If you agree with it, go ahead and click save.
[38:48] If you're not so sure, you could always identify it at a
[38:50] higher taxonomic level.
[38:52] So this white daisy tidy tips is a
[38:55] plant not found in our area.
[38:56] It's more in a west,
[38:58] but we do have plenty of western
[39:00] honeybees pictured here on the left.
[39:02] And so if you're not sure, that's fine,
[39:05] just add a comment like, oh, tentative ID
[39:07] or not a hundred percent sure about this,
[39:09] or this is what I not suggested, I'm just going with it.
[39:11] That's all fine. The goal is
[39:13] to get the observation submitted with some sort
[39:16] of identification and then others can come along and,
[39:18] and correct or or verify.
[39:22] And then once it's been posted to iNaturalist,
[39:25] it's now publicly accessible
[39:27] and others can, can view this for their research
[39:30] or conservation needs and so on.
[39:35] Alright, so I'm gonna share with you a,
[39:37] a short 92nd video on some tips for how
[39:40] to make an observation.
[39:42] I will note that iNaturalist made this video
[39:45] using an older version of the app,
[39:48] but the, the concepts still apply.
[39:50] And so if you have downloaded the, the the new version
[39:53] of the app, your screen may look a little different,
[39:56] but you'll still be able to follow the steps.
[40:03] Okay, so you've installed the
[40:04] iNaturalist app and create an account.
[40:06] Time to get outside and record your first observation.
[40:08] Here's how to do it. Any living thing like
[40:13] a plant animal or fungus can be an
[40:15] observation, a iNaturalist.
[40:23] Once you find something you'd like to record, just tap,
[40:25] observe and take a photo.
[40:28] You can review your picture, then hit next.
[40:30] If it looks good to identify
[40:35] it hit what did you see?
[40:37] If you have an internet connection,
[40:38] iNaturalist will suggest 10 visually similar species
[40:41] and often a common ancestor.
[40:42] You can choose one of those or search for species name, name
[40:48] on this observation detail screen.
[40:50] You can add more photos of the same organism or write a note
[40:59] the date, time and location have been automatically added.
[41:03] You can also change the geo privacy of the observation mark,
[41:07] whether it's captive or cultivated or add it to a project.
[41:13] Once you're finished, just hit share
[41:15] and your observation will be uploaded
[41:16] for everyone to see and identify.
[41:18] That's it. Keep on exploring and sharing.
[41:29] Great. So here's a quick recap of that video.
[41:32] Install the app on your phone and then go ahead
[41:36] and create a free account.
[41:37] You'll need a, a username, a password and an email address.
[41:41] And then go outside or inside lots of spiders
[41:44] or a couple spiders live in my basement
[41:46] or the leaves in my gutter.
[41:47] That all counts as biodiversity.
[41:50] Just find a living organism or a sign of one.
[41:53] And so you might find maybe a deer antler
[41:55] or some deer scat that counts as well.
[41:57] It could be a bird feather that you found. That's fine too.
[42:01] iNaturalist is not a database for rocks
[42:04] or non-living things or fossils.
[42:07] So evidence or evidence of a living organism
[42:10] or an actual living organism
[42:12] that's been alive in recent history.
[42:16] Tap observe to choose the observation type.
[42:19] So this is where you can choose between taking a photo
[42:21] through the app, choosing a photo from your phone's photo
[42:23] library, or going ahead
[42:25] and recording a sound through the app.
[42:29] And then take the photo well that I just said,
[42:31] those options, and then identify what you found
[42:33] to the best of your ability.
[42:35] So iNaturalist does have those built-in suggestions,
[42:38] but it is wrong.
[42:40] Occasionally it's gotten much better over the years,
[42:43] but it still makes mistakes sometimes.
[42:44] And so for this picture on the bottom right, some
[42:47] of you may know this as American pokeweed,
[42:49] if you do go ahead
[42:51] and submit as as that, if you say, well,
[42:53] it's a plant, that's all I've got.
[42:55] Plant is perfectly fine, as long as it gets the ball rolling
[42:59] and doesn't stay at the unknown level, that's the goal.
[43:03] The catchall category, if you're really not sure is life,
[43:07] you know, is, is it a fungus or some sort of slime mold.
[43:10] If you're not sure, just submit it
[43:12] as life and that's good enough.
[43:15] And then go ahead and share your observation.
[43:18] One note I'll make on this is
[43:20] I'm not sure if the cell phone service at Broadview Farm is
[43:24] good or not, or if people are on a
[43:26] limited cellular data plan.
[43:28] You can upload your observations when you get home over
[43:31] a wifi connection.
[43:32] It doesn't have to be submitted right
[43:34] there wherever you are.
[43:36] It'll be saved in the app
[43:37] and then you can sync your observations when you have a
[43:40] better or stronger internet connection.
[43:45] This video is, offers some tips on how to take better photos
[43:50] so that whatever it is
[43:51] that you're seeing has a higher chance
[43:52] of getting identified.
[44:57] Great. And here's the recap.
[44:59] Not all of us are expert photographers.
[45:02] I'm, I'm far from that myself.
[45:04] I'll submit the occasional blurry photo
[45:06] on a, on a given day.
[45:08] But overall, try to get close
[45:10] but also be respectful of wildlife in particular.
[45:13] Our goal is not to harass wildlife, just to get a photo.
[45:16] We need to be respectful of, of them and
[45:18] and what they're trying to do.
[45:19] So get as close as you can reasonably.
[45:21] If it's a plant, certainly go right up to it.
[45:23] Just be mindful of thorns
[45:25] or poison ivy, something like that within the observation
[45:30] page on, on the app
[45:32] or the website, you can combine multiple photos into the
[45:35] same observation and that's highly recommended so
[45:37] that anyone who's looking at your photo says, okay,
[45:40] here's a detailed view of the leaf.
[45:41] Here's more of a, a back of view of the bark
[45:44] or maybe the whole structure of a tree.
[45:47] And then try to make sure your photos are in focus as well.
[45:50] You know, blurry photos can be okay for certain things
[45:54] that are really recognizable,
[45:56] but when you can make sure your photos are as detailed
[46:00] as possible, this is can be really important
[46:01] for certain plants and insects where there's, you know,
[46:05] small, small details
[46:06] and measurements that need to be made in order
[46:09] to identify something down to the species level.
[46:11] Pop quiz. Does anyone know
[46:13] what this species here on the page is?
[46:18] Milkweed? Is that milkweed? No,
[46:20] It's a good guess.
[46:21] Not milkweed.
[46:24] Poplar beach. It's
[46:27] A beach.
[46:28] Yes, this is an American beach rather healthy looking,
[46:30] looking one as you can see from the park here.
[46:33] Yep. So all three, all these three are the same species.
[46:38] Alrightyy. Let's see. Moving on to some other best practices
[46:40] that I've come up with over the years.
[46:46] Each observation should be of a single organism.
[46:49] So I did mention just a minute ago
[46:50] that you can combine multiple photos into one observation
[46:53] that's recommended for photos of the same organism,
[46:57] the same tree, the same plant, the same butterfly.
[46:59] However, the tree plant
[47:01] and the butterfly should not be in the same observation.
[47:05] They should all be kept separate.
[47:06] And that can be an easy pitfall for first time users.
[47:10] The focus of the BioBlitz will be all native species.
[47:14] It also introduce species if they're growing
[47:17] naturally or in the wild.
[47:18] We want to try to avoid anything
[47:20] that's been planted, cultivated or captive.
[47:23] So I think there may be some small gardens on the property
[47:27] and maybe some trees that have been planted over time.
[47:29] But most of the stuff we'll find should be wild growing.
[47:33] Otherwise, if it's not, we'll just market
[47:35] as cultivated captive.
[47:36] And that'll help separate those observations out
[47:39] from our final tally.
[47:42] Again, to save on that cellular data.
[47:44] If the, if it's limited at the farm
[47:46] or if anyone's on a limited data plan,
[47:49] I recommend uploading observations at home.
[47:51] Usually goes much quicker, a little less painstaking trying
[47:54] to do that out in the field.
[47:56] And then in the settings you can turn off
[47:58] the automatic upload.
[47:59] Again, no need to memorize all of this.
[48:01] I'll be there in person for the BioBlitz,
[48:03] but if you do get out to practice beforehand,
[48:06] you might wanna make a note.
[48:08] And then this record sound option
[48:10] that iNaturalist started using three
[48:12] or four years ago is excellent.
[48:14] We will be starting with a bird walk first
[48:17] thing for the BioBlitz.
[48:18] And so this will be a really great way
[48:20] to document a lot of the birds that we're seeing.
[48:26] And of course, multiple observations of
[48:28] of the same species are encouraged.
[48:30] So what this means is if someone already documents,
[48:32] say common milkweed during the BioBlitz,
[48:34] it's okay if another person documents another milkweed
[48:37] elsewhere in the property or even
[48:38] that same exact milkweed plant.
[48:41] The goal not just is, is more than just finding
[48:44] as many species as possible.
[48:46] It's also to connect a bunch of people with nature, maybe
[48:50] to share some identification tips
[48:52] and just have an enjoyable day.
[48:55] And so it's okay if we have duplicate observations
[48:57] from different observers.
[48:59] And another benefit to this is we can then more closely map
[49:02] the distribution of certain species on the property.
[49:04] Say there's an uncommon butterfly like the Baltimore checker
[49:08] spot, which is actually kind of common at Broadview Farm
[49:10] through iNaturalist and the BioBlitz.
[49:12] We can map its distribution throughout the property.
[49:15] Is it using certain fields more than others?
[49:17] Or maybe it's avoiding places closest to the road or,
[49:20] or the wetland edge.
[49:21] So we can start to get a better sense of
[49:23] how specific species are utilizing the property over time.
[49:29] And I already mentioned this,
[49:30] multiple people can document the same organism.
[49:32] That's fine. How scientists treat iNaturalist data.
[49:35] They account for this all the time.
[49:38] And, and so there's no problem with doing that.
[49:42] So a little bit more about iNaturalist,
[49:44] over 4.2 million people
[49:46] around the world have shared observations to the platform
[49:50] and it's growing rapidly.
[49:52] When I last did a similar presentation in November,
[49:55] I think it was well below 4 million at that time.
[49:58] And then there's the identification side of things.
[50:00] So if you think about to when we submit an observation
[50:03] to iNaturalist other,
[50:05] another iNaturalist user will come along and verify
[50:07] or say, oh actually I think it's in this
[50:10] genus and and here's why.
[50:11] And half a million people have done that
[50:13] for other iNaturalist users.
[50:15] So they're big, big part of the program
[50:17] and making what it is today.
[50:21] One of the, my favorite uses
[50:22] of my naturalist is I can keep track
[50:24] of everything I've seen both spatially as a map of, of
[50:27] where I've traveled and a list of all the species
[50:30] that I've documented over time.
[50:31] And so it's, it's fun
[50:32] because I won't necessarily remember everything
[50:34] that I've seen on all these trips,
[50:36] but through our naturalist I can keep a digital diary
[50:40] of the biodiversity that I document.
[50:41] And so it's really easy to set that up for yourself
[50:44] or for, you know, a conservation commission as a group
[50:48] or throughout the entire town.
[50:49] That's something that we've done for
[50:50] other conservation commissions.
[50:54] On the species side of things,
[50:55] you can filter observations both for your own records
[50:59] and for other other iNaturalist projects.
[51:01] So here on the left there, these are some
[51:04] of the most common, most frequently documented
[51:07] organisms that I've seen.
[51:08] And then plants are on the right.
[51:10] It's a good mix of, of New Hampshire species here.
[51:15] Not only can you explore your own personal data
[51:17] through our naturalist, but you can
[51:18] explore everyone else's data.
[51:19] So this is a map of all the observations
[51:21] submitted to our naturalist.
[51:24] It's heavily used in North America as well
[51:26] as Western Europe, but there are tons
[51:28] of observations from the Central Atlantic,
[51:30] the South Pacific Antarctica even.
[51:33] And so iNaturalist is,
[51:35] is rapidly becoming the largest
[51:36] biodiversity database out there.
[51:38] It's certainly the widest used by scientists.
[51:42] And so it, this sort of shows the whole picture of, of
[51:44] what we're contributing to.
[51:46] It's, it's not just a BioBlitz at Broadview farm on
[51:49] June 27th and Derry New Hampshire we're contributing to a,
[51:52] a much bigger project where scientific
[51:55] and conservation discoveries are happening
[51:57] at a really rapid pace.
[52:00] So earlier, I guess it's now June, so in May I,
[52:04] I set up this project on iNaturalist.
[52:06] It's for Broadview farm conservation area.
[52:09] Specifically this project will run in perpetuity as long
[52:13] as iNaturalist exists it.
[52:15] So it's a running tally of all the observations submitted
[52:19] on the conservation area property.
[52:22] Okay. And so already you're up to 1100 observations
[52:26] of 327 species.
[52:29] These are some observations made
[52:31] by an observer just 24 hours ago who is out
[52:35] documenting things on the property.
[52:37] You can also keep track of the most
[52:40] frequently observed species on the property.
[52:42] So pex skipper, smaller butterflies,
[52:44] the number one most observed species.
[52:47] If you couldn't guess, this is a really popular place
[52:49] for butterfly enthusiasts to go.
[52:50] Yeah, definitely is. There's a lot of, a lot
[52:52] of great butterflies there and a lot of people know it.
[52:55] Yep. So one of my goals for the BioBlitz is to say, okay,
[53:00] some people focus on the butterflies,
[53:02] but let's document more of the plants, some of the less
[53:05] appreciated insects.
[53:06] Certainly we'll be looking for slime molds and,
[53:09] and obscure things as well as common things as well
[53:12] to really round out, you know,
[53:13] are these the most common species at Broadview farm
[53:17] or there seems like there's just a heavy focus on
[53:19] butterflies so far.
[53:22] So we'll be exploring that all day.
[53:24] And then you can also view a map for
[53:26] where across the property these observations have been made.
[53:30] Each point can be clicked on.
[53:31] You can look at the observation details.
[53:33] So this one was from yesterday, green clover worm moth.
[53:37] They're flying right now pretty common and and grassy areas,
[53:42] but I'm sure we'll find a lot more come June 27th.
[53:47] I will share a link with this, a link to the project
[53:50] with Beth who can share it out
[53:52] to the entire conservation commission for you
[53:54] to explore prior to the BioBlitz.
[53:58] Okay, so we're, we're gonna be collecting a lot
[54:01] of data from Broady farm during the BioBlitz,
[54:03] but as I mentioned, this project will run in perpetuity.
[54:06] So what could you as a conservation commission do with it?
[54:09] Well, here are some options.
[54:11] You'll be able to get a sense for the species that are there
[54:14] and maybe elsewhere in dairy.
[54:15] Which ones are locally common uncommon or even rare.
[54:20] You could even use the data
[54:22] to target invasive species for removal.
[54:24] So if that's of interest, you'll now have a map of
[54:27] where these species are located
[54:28] and what concentrations they are so
[54:30] that it takes part of the planning.
[54:32] It's already been done for you.
[54:34] You say, okay here's the Japanese knot.
[54:35] We let's tackle this in 2026 glossy buckthorn in 2027.
[54:39] And you'll have places ready to go.
[54:43] You can monitor climate driven arrivals and departures.
[54:45] So in the 1970 breeding bird atlas of New Hampshire,
[54:50] red billed Woodpecker
[54:51] and Carolina Ren weren't even mentioned yet.
[54:53] Now for those of you who know your birds,
[54:55] they're everywhere all the way up to the white mountains.
[54:58] Yep. And so places like a naturalist can help keep track
[55:01] and detect these early arrivals
[55:03] or potential departures of species.
[55:05] Maybe a certain violet
[55:07] or even a certain kind
[55:08] of moth maybe hasn't been seen in dairy in 30 years.
[55:11] Is it really gone? Or maybe no one's documented it.
[55:15] And so another great reason to host bios is
[55:18] to fill in those missing data gaps.
[55:22] And then of course, yes, we love talking about the plants
[55:24] and animals, but as humans it's always good to connect
[55:27] with others and share our passion for nature
[55:30] and really inspire a deeper connection.
[55:32] Once we know something
[55:33] and care about it, we're more likely to protect it.
[55:36] And so really working with, with spreading the word as much
[55:38] as we can to attract a large audience to the BioBlitz.
[55:41] And hopefully some kids will be
[55:43] there for the next generation.
[55:47] And then one of the cool features of
[55:48] and working with iNaturalist data is you can create a local
[55:51] phenology calendar for when certain species can be observed.
[55:55] And so a lot of conservation commissions or land trusts
[55:57] or other groups have worked with their iNaturalist data
[56:00] to make calendars
[56:02] or kiosk info signs about when the milkweed flowers or,
[56:06] or when the azaleas bloom and what pollinators are visiting
[56:09] and how how the shifts in flowering times can affect them.
[56:12] And so you can create, you can collect data specific
[56:15] to Broadview farm or other places in dairy
[56:18] and then convert it into little informational signs
[56:21] or data to,
[56:23] to help other people understand the ecosystem at play.
[56:29] Alrighty, I think I'm doing okay on time.
[56:30] We'll have plenty of time for questions.
[56:32] So upcoming end of June is the Broadview Farm BioBlitz.
[56:35] This will be on Saturday. It'll be a 24 hour event.
[56:39] I'll be there from about 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM
[56:43] People are more than welcome to show up at midnight,
[56:45] bring some black lights or ultraviolet lights
[56:48] and look for moths or get there right at sunrise
[56:50] around 5:00 AM 4 45.
[56:53] And when the dawn course is really going
[56:55] to document more birds.
[56:56] And then after I leave, you know, the event doesn't end
[56:59] until midnight on Saturday.
[57:01] And so folks are welcome to attend
[57:04] after Al be gone if they're unable
[57:06] to be there during the day.
[57:07] So it will be a 24 hour event.
[57:09] We'll see how many species we can find on a good day.
[57:13] This bios is really well time for the end of June,
[57:15] which is almost peak biodiversity season
[57:18] here in Southern New Hampshire.
[57:20] I expect we'll find between 300, 600 species wow within
[57:24] that 24 hour period.
[57:26] Probably a bunch of species that have not been documented
[57:29] before in dairy and maybe one to five species
[57:32] that I haven't been seen before in New Hampshire
[57:34] and put on that naturalist.
[57:36] So I've got high hopes for this event, even if it rains.
[57:38] We're still looking at well over 200 species
[57:41] depending on the plant diversity in particular.
[57:45] But I, I'm really, really excited for this event.
[57:47] So before the event, here's how you can help out advertise,
[57:51] advertise, advertise.
[57:53] The more people we have show up at any time on Saturday,
[57:57] the more eyes we have, the more people
[58:00] who can make observations
[58:02] and certain people just gravitate towards
[58:04] different parts of nature.
[58:06] Some people like to look up at the sky.
[58:08] I myself might find myself calling on my hands
[58:10] and knees in the middle of the vit.
[58:12] And so we'll have people sort of looking in all directions,
[58:15] different things, catching their eyes
[58:17] and documenting what we find.
[58:19] I'll be reaching out to some power users of iNaturalist
[58:23] who live in the area to make sure this is on
[58:26] their calendars for that event.
[58:28] So also I recommend creating your iNaturalist to count ahead
[58:32] of time and practicing.
[58:34] Try to submit five or 10 observations beforehand just
[58:37] to sort of smooth out the kinks.
[58:38] And if you're really having trouble,
[58:40] certainly arrive on Saturday when I'll be there
[58:43] and I'm happy to help you in person.
[58:46] So with that I'd like to break for questions.
[58:54] I had one that just popped up at the end.
[58:55] You said power users in the area.
[58:58] So is that something you're able to see like an account
[59:00] with like hundreds of observations like people
[59:03] who are really already active
[59:05] and connected to natural communities in these areas?
[59:08] Is that what you're saying?
[59:10] Absolutely. And so what you could do an iNaturalist
[59:13] and what I'll be doing is I can go
[59:15] to the explore page looking at the town of Derry
[59:18] or maybe more broadly Rockingham County
[59:20] and seeing who are the top iNaturalist
[59:22] observers in the area.
[59:24] Maybe they have a thousand observations
[59:26] or 10,000 observations already submitted.
[59:29] And I'll send them a little message
[59:30] and say, Hey, if you're free this weekend, we'd love
[59:32] to have you here and help out with your expertise
[59:36] to help us find more species.
[59:38] Oh, that's awesome. That Would be really helpful. Yeah.
[59:42] Another question just in regards to your hopes
[59:45] for identifying species
[59:46] and stuff, is that going to be included against
[59:49] or compared against the number
[59:50] with the observations that are already there?
[59:53] 'cause it said like 1000 current,
[59:54] some odd current observations, this many species
[59:57] and this many observers on that area.
[59:59] Is that something we're gonna be comparing with
[1:00:01] or are you just hoping to like include that, you know,
[1:00:03] like species already observed
[1:00:05] and like you said, re-surging them is okay?
[1:00:08] Yeah, that's a great question.
[1:00:09] And so once the observations are submitted
[1:00:12] to our naturalist, I'll apply a filter
[1:00:14] for just the observation seen on Saturday
[1:00:18] and that'll give us a tally of everything documented
[1:00:21] during the BioBlitz and we can directly compare that
[1:00:23] to everything seen prior to the BioBlitz.
[1:00:26] And then we can also view everything all together.
[1:00:28] And so the project that I've set up will update in real time
[1:00:32] as observations are submitted
[1:00:34] and that'll give you the running tally for the property.
[1:00:37] And then I'll be able to filter it
[1:00:39] for just the BioBlitz day, how did we do?
[1:00:42] And the plan is to write, you know,
[1:00:44] a little half page write up with some highlights to share
[1:00:47] with you that you can then post to social media or,
[1:00:49] or use for outreach and go from there.
[1:00:53] Nice. I actually have two questions.
[1:00:56] I I haven't used it before, I'm just, just signed on now.
[1:01:00] So the first one is, and so in in, in terms of like the,
[1:01:03] the database, is it similar to social media
[1:01:06] that it's like grouped by species or by areas states?
[1:01:11] So in other words, if like I went tonight on the way home
[1:01:14] and submitted something,
[1:01:16] or if I traveled somewhere else, like across the country,
[1:01:18] like I would have my own account very similar to that.
[1:01:21] And that would be, how would they be grouped?
[1:01:24] Would they be grouped by species, by areas by?
[1:01:28] So if I was interested in say, cross-referencing a species,
[1:01:32] like how would I look that up?
[1:01:35] That's a good question
[1:01:36] and if I don't answer it, feel free to ask it again.
[1:01:39] Okay. When you submit an observation to try a naturalist,
[1:01:42] you can access it in a lot of different ways.
[1:01:44] And so if you're looking at just your personal data,
[1:01:46] you'll be able to see all your species.
[1:01:48] You can also click on an observation
[1:01:50] and look at a map for where
[1:01:51] that species has been seen elsewhere throughout the world.
[1:01:54] And so all the species as well as other taxa.
[1:01:57] So you could look at genus family order class,
[1:02:01] kingdom levels and see a map of observations.
[1:02:04] You could read more about each taxonomic level for
[1:02:08] to get some fun facts.
[1:02:09] And on iNaturalist, each profile page for genus species,
[1:02:13] et cetera, has links to other resources online.
[1:02:17] And so the app is really an entry point to iNaturalist
[1:02:21] where you can submit data, kind
[1:02:23] of peruse your own observations easily.
[1:02:27] But the real magic of iNaturalist, from my opinion,
[1:02:29] is using the website
[1:02:31] and exploring the data in all these different facets.
[1:02:35] And so you can group things
[1:02:36] and endless ways, which doesn't really answer your question,
[1:02:40] but anything's possible.
[1:02:42] Okay. I I think I understand.
[1:02:43] And then the second is, does it, does it identify via video?
[1:02:48] So if you have, like, say you have like a camera on your
[1:02:51] property and animal comes by, does you know, does video
[1:02:54] that you may have in your, in your photos
[1:02:57] or in your, your own phone app, would that be usable
[1:03:02] or does it need to be still photo?
[1:03:04] Great question. It does not accept video.
[1:03:08] However, it will accept a gif photo, A GIF.
[1:03:12] And so there are free online programs
[1:03:14] where you can convert a video to a gif and then upload that.
[1:03:18] And so it still looks like a video when you submit it?
[1:03:21] Yeah, to a naturalist, but it's a different format.
[1:03:24] I've never done it, but lots of people have.
[1:03:27] So that is an option When I, when I put out trail cameras
[1:03:30] for work or for pleasure, I usually have a, most of them set
[1:03:33] to photo just so I can upload them
[1:03:35] to my naturalist really easily.
[1:03:37] But the videos are so compelling
[1:03:38] that I always have some of those out as well.
[1:03:41] Okay, thank you. Just something that was thought
[1:03:45] of over here is, you know, we're using this for
[1:03:48] specifically broad view, this bio blitz and stuff,
[1:03:50] but of course you know, this is gonna be something
[1:03:53] that hopefully our community will jump on
[1:03:55] for other properties and we might wanna do this at
[1:03:57] other properties as well.
[1:03:59] We do allow, this might be maybe not connected,
[1:04:03] but we do allow hunting on some of our properties.
[1:04:06] And so maybe then bringing up some concerns about
[1:04:09] tracking the species, you know,
[1:04:11] seasonal hunting species that might be in those areas.
[1:04:13] Has that ever rage raised any concern at all?
[1:04:18] Absolutely. And so yes,
[1:04:19] that can be a concern not only just for species
[1:04:21] that might be hunted, but also
[1:04:22] for rare and threatened species.
[1:04:24] Right. Particularly turtles or snakes
[1:04:26] or things that might get poached.
[1:04:27] Right. And so in that 92nd video that I shared,
[1:04:31] it went over it really quickly.
[1:04:33] Oh, I didn't see that. But there's a geo privacy option
[1:04:36] where you can, it's open by default,
[1:04:38] which means others can see the specific location
[1:04:41] for the observation, but you can change it to obscured
[1:04:44] and that essentially hides the true coordinates
[1:04:46] of the observation from everyone but yourself
[1:04:49] unless you give another user specific permission
[1:04:52] to look at the true coordinates for that observation.
[1:04:55] And so the obscured observations are hidden within,
[1:04:59] I think a 20 kilometer by 40 kilometer box.
[1:05:03] It's a pretty big area.
[1:05:04] So it's, it's very difficult to tell where
[1:05:07] that observation was actually made,
[1:05:09] but it doesn't quite obscure it to the fact
[1:05:11] where we don't know where in the world this photo was taken,
[1:05:14] which would be if you change the geo privacy,
[1:05:16] privacy settings to private,
[1:05:20] which hides the location entirely.
[1:05:23] And that makes it really hard for anyone to identify
[1:05:26] what it is that you saw
[1:05:27] because something in Africa might look really similar
[1:05:29] to something that's growing here.
[1:05:31] And there'd be no way to tell without a hint
[1:05:32] of the geography.
[1:05:34] And so for anything that you might be concerned about
[1:05:37] or if you're observing around your house
[1:05:39] and you don't necessarily wanna share
[1:05:41] your house location on a naturalist, you can obscure
[1:05:44] those observations.
[1:05:46] Personally, I don't care if people know
[1:05:49] where I submit on naturalist observations from.
[1:05:50] So most of my stuff is open unless it's something rare
[1:05:54] or endangered that might be poached.
[1:05:57] So I do obscure those
[1:05:58] and you could do the same thing for species
[1:05:59] that might be hunted that you don't want any
[1:06:01] hunters getting wind of.
[1:06:04] That's awesome. Thank you.
[1:06:06] Can I ask like if someone, like, if, if don't know,
[1:06:10] if a species is like rare right?
[1:06:14] And you don't really know what it is, is there a way
[1:06:16] to go back and like if it's identified by, you know,
[1:06:20] the other professionals on the site as something rare,
[1:06:25] can you go back and obscure it
[1:06:27] after you've already submitted? Hmm.
[1:06:29] Yes. Absolutely.
[1:06:31] So anything that you submit, you can always go back, delete,
[1:06:35] edit, change the parameters.
[1:06:36] It's all accessible to you.
[1:06:38] The person who submitted it for really rare stuff,
[1:06:41] it's obscured by default.
[1:06:43] So say you saw a blendings turtle,
[1:06:45] which is state endangered, right?
[1:06:46] But you didn't know it was a blendings turtle,
[1:06:48] you would submit it and it'd be automatically
[1:06:50] obscured, which is excellent.
[1:06:53] And that's not necessarily true for rare segs
[1:06:56] or kind of obscure plants like that
[1:06:58] 'cause they're not necessarily poached
[1:07:00] or sold on the market for a thousand dollars a sedge.
[1:07:02] Right. And so, you know, if you still wanted to obscure
[1:07:06] that rare observation, you could, you know,
[1:07:08] once an identifi came in
[1:07:10] and someone said, oh hey, this is really uncommon,
[1:07:12] then you could choose if you want to obscure it or not.
[1:07:24] You guys are doing great. These are
[1:07:26] really excellent questions.
[1:07:28] Yeah.
[1:07:30] Yeah. Any other questions?
[1:07:35] Nothing. No. Probably day of.
[1:07:37] We'll, we'll we'll see. Yeah.
[1:07:39] Great. Staff has My contact info.
[1:07:41] Steve, you have a wrap? Do you have a wrap up
[1:07:42] presentation or are we done?
[1:07:46] No, no, we're, we're ready to go for the BioBlitz.
[1:07:48] Just get out there and practice if you have time. Right?
[1:07:51] Woohoo. Okay. Great. Alright. Thank you Steve. Thank you.
[1:07:54] That was great. Thank you Steve.
[1:07:55] Thank you all. Have a good night.
[1:07:56] You too. You too too. Nice
[1:07:57] job. I'm excited for that.
[1:08:01] Yeah, it's cool. I didn't know it was gonna be at night.
[1:08:03] That's neat. That's that's cool.
[1:08:05] I didn't know it was gonna be at nighttime.
[1:08:07] Oh, like 24 hours. Yeah. Wow.
[1:08:09] That's cool. That is cool.
[1:08:10] Yeah. The event that like where, where Steven is there
[1:08:12] and we'll, you know, we'll have a tent up, et cetera.
[1:08:16] Right. We'll be from eight to four.
[1:08:18] Yeah. You won't be, are night. Yeah. People are encouraged
[1:08:22] For the 24 hours.
[1:08:23] Very cool. Can you apply to camp?
[1:08:27] Oh that's a great, okay. We are moving right along.
[1:08:30] Community garden. J has, I think
[1:08:36] J Jay couldn't be here, but I think, I think Beth, I, yeah.
[1:08:39] Beth's frame can back before. Yep. Yeah.
[1:08:41] Well the community garden is in full swing.
[1:08:45] Every plot has been used and is being tended.
[1:08:49] And we had, the
[1:08:53] opening day was May 9th
[1:08:56] and there were 17 people in attendance.
[1:09:00] Wow. Yeah. We had quite a few community gardeners come out
[1:09:04] who wanted to lend a hand with staking
[1:09:07] and Linda brought her delicious baked goods.
[1:09:11] Yep. And it was, it was a great time.
[1:09:15] It was raining the entire time. Yep.
[1:09:17] But we, we powered through and, and it was great.
[1:09:23] Jay did have some photos that he shared on the,
[1:09:28] on the Facebook page for that, on the Facebook group.
[1:09:32] So I'd encourage you to look at some
[1:09:34] of the photos or stop by.
[1:09:38] And he got the results of some soil testing back
[1:09:41] that I think he'll share with you at the next meeting
[1:09:43] that he's able to be at.
[1:09:46] That's all for the community garden.
[1:09:51] And do you wanna talk about Tammy briefly?
[1:09:55] Yeah. Personnel.
[1:09:57] I know very little, but You don't as much as I know,
[1:09:59] Assuming, assuming Tammy's not here tonight, last,
[1:10:02] our last meeting she was in, they were traveling,
[1:10:05] she was indisposed with her, hu her husband
[1:10:07] and he had a medical emergency.
[1:10:09] So I'm assuming if she's not here tonight, so Tammy,
[1:10:13] if you listen, hope, hopefully everything's better
[1:10:15] and we'll see you soon.
[1:10:17] And unfortunately I discovered I had one job from the last
[1:10:20] meeting and I didn't do it.
[1:10:23] I will have information on Beth
[1:10:26] and Tammy's reviews when they should be done.
[1:10:29] I'll, I'll, I have a note
[1:10:31] to call Catherine first thing in the morning in HR
[1:10:33] and we'll get those scheduled within the next month.
[1:10:37] Again, I apologize for that.
[1:10:40] Okay. Thank you Mr. Metz.
[1:10:43] Before we do Eileen's committee, do,
[1:10:48] have we finished up the new name for it yet?
[1:10:50] Yeah, so we,
[1:10:51] So you want to announce what the new name
[1:10:53] for Eileen's committee
[1:10:54] Is?
[1:10:55] So we're gonna go with the Environmental Policy
[1:10:57] and Training Committee.
[1:11:00] Alright. So the, so moving forward, Eileen is going
[1:11:04] to be chairing the Environmental Policy
[1:11:07] and Information Committee instead
[1:11:09] of taking clients training committee.
[1:11:11] Yeah. All right. What you got Eileen? Okay.
[1:11:17] I did mention a few of these last meeting,
[1:11:19] but this is a refresher for people that didn't
[1:11:22] perhaps attend Last meeting on June 6th,
[1:11:26] there's a wetlands ID workshop
[1:11:28] that N-H-A-C-C is putting on.
[1:11:32] It's gonna be from nine to 12 at Bow High School,
[1:11:34] which is Falcon Way in Bow New Hampshire.
[1:11:36] If you can register on the NH acc.org website
[1:11:42] on June 12th, there is also an NHAC
[1:11:47] conservation easement training
[1:11:49] and that's gonna be held at the Sanborn Mills Farm in
[1:11:53] loud New Hampshire.
[1:11:55] It's essentially a free training from 10 to four,
[1:11:58] but they would love it if you would mind,
[1:12:00] wouldn't mind donating either 10, $20
[1:12:03] or $30 towards, you know, the workshop
[1:12:10] on June 19th.
[1:12:12] There's gonna be excellent Trio Maintenance
[1:12:15] and design workshop at the Appalachian Mountain Clubs Camp
[1:12:20] Dodge, which is in Gorham, New Hampshire.
[1:12:23] And you can sign up for that on the nh
[1:12:27] acc.org website.
[1:12:30] On June 13th,
[1:12:32] there's gonna be a New Hampshire Audubon outing at Broadview
[1:12:36] Farm, and that's from eight to 10:00 AM is a free event.
[1:12:41] The leader is Joe Mahoney,
[1:12:43] and you can register for that
[1:12:45] on the New Hampshire Audubon website.
[1:12:49] And that's all I have for tonight.
[1:12:54] Thank you Emily. Yep. Property management's quiet, right?
[1:12:59] Nothing going on. Am I missing anything?
[1:13:02] We have that encroachment, but I can cover that in my
[1:13:06] Okay.
[1:13:07] Yeah, so we have the encroachment at
[1:13:10] Doolittle. Is that Doolittle?
[1:13:12] Broadview. Broadview. Oh really?
[1:13:14] Broadview was gonna say that we're working on,
[1:13:17] and Beth was share that during her report.
[1:13:21] And Mr.
[1:13:22] Sper anything on land, what land maintenance,
[1:13:24] other than all the inquiries about,
[1:13:26] I'll be back to, to Beth.
[1:13:28] We have a lot of inquiries about
[1:13:35] Stuff.
[1:13:37] Visually challenged people visiting. Yes. Yeah.
[1:13:39] Visiting Ballard Forest that we've,
[1:13:43] We've, yeah, Ballard State Park,
[1:13:45] I think three different individuals reached out about,
[1:13:50] about having trail accessibility for
[1:13:54] visually impaired people.
[1:13:56] And we've sent them to,
[1:14:00] or you know, we've let them know the appropriate parties
[1:14:03] to contact because, you know,
[1:14:06] dairy Conservation Commission does not manage Ballard State.
[1:14:11] That's a state property.
[1:14:12] So the Urban Forestry Center is who is, who deals with that.
[1:14:17] So we've sent them over to the Urban Forestry Center
[1:14:21] with those inquiries.
[1:14:23] But it did, it did kind of trigger a, a conversation
[1:14:27] with Beth and I regarding at some
[1:14:32] point as we, as we, you know,
[1:14:35] kinda relabel our conservation properties, trying
[1:14:37] to identify at least some properties that are
[1:14:40] more appropriate for people that have physical challenges.
[1:14:45] And maybe even have like a rating system
[1:14:47] of some sort saying like, kinda like,
[1:14:49] I think about like skiing, like,
[1:14:50] so you have like a black diamond trail for advanced skiers.
[1:14:53] Right. So, and we, we were talking about Shepherd earlier
[1:14:56] and how, how shepherd's kind of a pretty easy easy property.
[1:15:00] That might be a good one. Yeah. Yeah. 'cause
[1:15:01] that's kind of flat.
[1:15:01] It's got a little incline in the back when it comes up
[1:15:03] to the upper field where like, Cornelius
[1:15:06] and this is a, is a pretty challenging property
[1:15:09] and so, so is Paul.
[1:15:11] So maybe have some sort of grading system that we can,
[1:15:14] that we can put on our properties that people will be able
[1:15:18] to use that maybe aren't,
[1:15:19] that have some challenges getting around.
[1:15:20] It's a great idea. Yeah. So
[1:15:21] Chair, I think, I think when we started talking about
[1:15:24] trails eight or nine months ago, Bob,
[1:15:26] you mentioned the state has trail ratings.
[1:15:30] Am I correct or incorrect about that?
[1:15:32] There's well, coming down through Forest Service
[1:15:35] and everybody else, there is a company that has a system
[1:15:40] that everybody really likes.
[1:15:41] And that's basically what it is.
[1:15:43] Instead of us saying, well, it's a black diamond,
[1:15:46] what you would say is there's this kind of slope, the width
[1:15:50] of the trail, et cetera, et cetera.
[1:15:52] And it's up to you to know what your capabilities are.
[1:15:54] So instead of us saying, well it's probably too rough
[1:15:57] for you, it's like, here's what you're gonna encounter.
[1:16:00] And then if they feel they can do it,
[1:16:02] they can go out and enjoy it.
[1:16:03] Pass, pass your own risk. Is that,
[1:16:06] Is there a, is there like a label of like,
[1:16:08] this is moderately challenging or anything like that?
[1:16:13] Not really. It's, it, it's all pre-done on the sign.
[1:16:16] There's like six parameters that are spell
[1:16:20] that predetermined and you just read 'em
[1:16:22] and know whether you can access it or not.
[1:16:24] Okay. Okay. I think I wanna be a little more
[1:16:26] definitive on our stuff though.
[1:16:28] I think I, I mean, I get that
[1:16:29] and they're, they're, they're kind
[1:16:30] of hedging, I think to not, the,
[1:16:32] The company name is Beneficial Designs
[1:16:36] and they make a machine that you can walk along
[1:16:40] and it's tied to a computer, it does all the measurements
[1:16:42] for you and then plots it out.
[1:16:45] But it gives you, in the end,
[1:16:49] that sign basically there.
[1:16:53] It's really cool company, great stuff.
[1:16:57] I don't believe anybody here in New Hampshire has done it.
[1:17:00] I saw it in practice out in Arizona.
[1:17:03] They were doing a desert trail.
[1:17:06] That one was actually for visually impaired.
[1:17:10] And the whole trail had a rope alongside the hand the side.
[1:17:16] And you go along and on the rope there'd be a knot.
[1:17:20] And then you knew that you could reach out.
[1:17:22] The sign was there. That was both regular text and
[1:17:27] That's Cool that they could feel.
[1:17:29] That's awesome. So yeah, it was a pretty cool design. That's
[1:17:32] Awesome.
[1:17:33] Yeah, I think, you know, we're, we're,
[1:17:34] we're just starting the conversation.
[1:17:35] I think it can be one of our goals as we, as we set goals,
[1:17:40] at least identify a trail, a, a conservation property
[1:17:45] that might be more friendly to
[1:17:46] people that have those challenges.
[1:17:49] Okay. We're moving right along and we have land acquisition.
[1:17:54] We're gonna have a, a discussion about that this evening.
[1:17:57] We have a PowerPoint presentation
[1:17:59] and we're gonna invite Owen to join us in a, in a non-public
[1:18:03] to talk about the properties that we're considering.
[1:18:07] Other thing we're doing is,
[1:18:08] I mentioned earlier we're developing that form letter
[1:18:12] as a solicitation to people that own property in town
[1:18:16] that may be that unaware of the benefits
[1:18:18] of preserving property and working with conservation.
[1:18:23] And we're gonna follow that up with a,
[1:18:25] a public media campaign through social media
[1:18:29] and through dairy tv.
[1:18:31] Just a brief excerpt.
[1:18:32] We were talking about the Shepherd
[1:18:34] property in our pre-meeting.
[1:18:36] Something that looks like, did you know that the, you know,
[1:18:39] a picture of the Shepherd property, maybe the shepherd feel.
[1:18:41] And it would say something like, did you know
[1:18:42] that the Shepherd property was donated to the town
[1:18:44] by the Shepherd family and whenever it was done.
[1:18:48] And just talk about a real brief, what some of the benefits
[1:18:51] of, of, of doing that for the town is.
[1:18:54] And then inviting people to reach out
[1:18:56] to the Conservation Commission email address us,
[1:19:02] you know, to, to move that forward.
[1:19:04] So we'll work on all that stuff. And that, like I said, Mr.
[1:19:07] Mets and I are working on the form letter as it as it gets
[1:19:10] a little bit tighter, we'll share it
[1:19:12] with the whole commission and get thoughts
[1:19:14] and feedback on it.
[1:19:18] Next we have Miss Val reporting compliance
[1:19:23] Compliance, right.
[1:19:26] Sorry, I had something. Okay. Reporting compliance.
[1:19:30] So we had Sam from SE reach out
[1:19:34] to us about monitoring the Dolittle property
[1:19:37] for those unfamiliar that's accessed off of Faith Drive.
[1:19:40] It's roughly a 94 acre property
[1:19:43] with some frontage on Manter Brook.
[1:19:45] Manter Brook primarily feeds in a lot
[1:19:47] of water into Beaver Lake.
[1:19:50] It was named after Albert Doolittle,
[1:19:52] who was a commissioner for 22 years.
[1:19:55] But yeah, so that property is in need of monitoring.
[1:19:58] Salt is in charge of that.
[1:19:59] It was supposed to be done on May 20th,
[1:20:02] however, Sam did have to push it out.
[1:20:04] I'm planning on being there in attendance
[1:20:07] for this upcoming Wednesday is when we had
[1:20:10] possibly sent it out for, yeah.
[1:20:14] And I sent that over to the rest of the commission,
[1:20:16] the committee too, that, that way they can stay in the loop.
[1:20:20] And that's all for reporting compliance.
[1:20:23] Thank you Val. And you have Net zero also?
[1:20:26] Yeah, so going into the net zero task force,
[1:20:29] they're still going on looking
[1:20:31] for a community power provider.
[1:20:33] They're working with Mike Fowler for a request for proposal
[1:20:36] for the supplier for that.
[1:20:37] The Net zero task force still does have their
[1:20:39] recommendation, but they do have to go
[1:20:41] through the RFP process.
[1:20:43] Another thing they're working toward is the hybridization
[1:20:46] of municipal fleet.
[1:20:48] We had 10 hybrid patrol cars
[1:20:49] become functional a few weeks ago.
[1:20:52] The task force is going to be waiting about two
[1:20:54] to three months to be taking data from the computers in
[1:20:56] those vehicles to determine their efficiency in the
[1:20:58] savings for the town.
[1:21:01] And then we also just had some brief discussions
[1:21:04] getting some of their input from the CWPP, especially
[1:21:07] as it's coming to a close, making sure nothing's missing,
[1:21:11] crossing t's dotting i's
[1:21:13] and they're continuing to keep an eye on legislation as some
[1:21:16] of the building codes and IECC things.
[1:21:18] So I've continued to be tabled and pushed along.
[1:21:21] And that's all for net zero Task force.
[1:21:26] Thank you. Val, we skipped over Cheryl? Yes.
[1:21:31] Oh, I'm sorry. No, my fault. No, I I just plowed through.
[1:21:34] No, I I'm taking the wrap for
[1:21:35] it for public outreach. Cheryl. Yeah.
[1:21:40] Great. So we, it was a very,
[1:21:42] it was actually very busy a couple of weeks.
[1:21:45] Eileen and Beth were at,
[1:21:47] what's the scoop at the Marion garish
[1:21:49] and talking up the BioBlitz
[1:21:51] and there's really been a lot of good buzz about that.
[1:21:53] Also on Facebook. We've actually grown quite a bit.
[1:21:56] We've at least doubled since we started
[1:21:59] putting more effort into that.
[1:22:00] The amount of followers on Facebook.
[1:22:02] And there's been some wonderful engaging posts mostly
[1:22:05] by Beth and Linda with all kinds
[1:22:08] of very interesting content there.
[1:22:10] And including tonight's iNaturalist training that was
[1:22:14] posted as well.
[1:22:16] Two dates if you'd like to put on your calendar.
[1:22:18] I think they're really gonna be a lot of fun is
[1:22:20] that we are confirmed
[1:22:21] for a table at the dairy farmer's market.
[1:22:23] Dairy Homegrown on, it's a Wednesday, August 12th.
[1:22:28] I plan on being there. I'm not gonna be bringing my baked
[1:22:30] goods that week, but I will be at the table
[1:22:34] and we'll have some interesting things going on.
[1:22:36] We'll meet as a committee beforehand and plan all of that.
[1:22:39] And we are also confirmed for Dairy Fest,
[1:22:43] which is September 19th from 10 to four.
[1:22:47] So, and we can certainly use volunteers and the commission.
[1:22:50] It'll be really a lot of fun.
[1:22:51] And again, those dates are Wednesday, August 12th,
[1:22:55] that's three to seven.
[1:22:56] The market time and Dairy Fest.
[1:22:59] We will be there September 19th from 10 to four.
[1:23:03] Awesome. Are you passing out like referential like
[1:23:05] materials, some of the things that we've been doing
[1:23:08] and stuff, like what kind of help are you looking
[1:23:09] for for those events?
[1:23:11] Well, to be a presence. Yeah.
[1:23:13] To be a presence, you know, at the table.
[1:23:15] And bet's been wonderful working with
[1:23:17] and designing materials to pass out.
[1:23:19] Okay. And kind of answer questions that there might be.
[1:23:21] I think the dairy
[1:23:24] farmer's market would be a little different.
[1:23:25] That could be something that could have some engaging,
[1:23:28] like identifying plants or things for like children.
[1:23:30] Yeah. So any suggestions you have that you want
[1:23:32] to email about that ahead of time, that would give us time
[1:23:36] to, you know, gather what we need.
[1:23:38] And certainly if you have an interest in that
[1:23:40] and engaging in that, that would be great.
[1:23:42] Yeah. Thank you.
[1:23:45] Be, do you want to do like a signup sheet
[1:23:47] for both of those events?
[1:23:48] Send it out to commission to commissioners
[1:23:50] and try to get some commitments for times
[1:23:55] and stuff like that because that's a long,
[1:23:57] it's like an eight hour day.
[1:23:58] So we split the work up a little bit. We always did it.
[1:24:01] Different kinds of shifts, kind
[1:24:03] of two hour shifts and stuff like that.
[1:24:04] Yep.
[1:24:07] Okay. TRCs,
[1:24:10] TRCs, we skip everything.
[1:24:12] Yep. I need a new optometrist. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:24:16] I only had, you know one. No,
[1:24:18] I don't either.
[1:24:19] He's cute but he's not good. Thanks.
[1:24:23] I only had one TRC since our last meeting.
[1:24:26] It was this past Friday.
[1:24:27] It concerned some lot line adjustments up at Denali Estates.
[1:24:32] So it, it was already approved plan as one
[1:24:35] of the people said it's just messing with lines.
[1:24:38] So that was all we, I have that was all for that one.
[1:24:41] Didn't have any other input.
[1:24:43] There are two more coming up next, two consecutive Fridays.
[1:24:48] One is a two acre, a two large subdivision.
[1:24:51] And I can't remember what the, the next one is,
[1:24:54] but I'll make sure I come in and look at the plans
[1:24:56] and let you folks know if they have to come.
[1:25:00] Denali had already been here 'cause it's phase four.
[1:25:03] They are starting phase five and six, so they'll be
[1:25:07] before us in the next few months.
[1:25:10] And that's where the bulk of our cash money has come from
[1:25:15] because a lot of that land up there was in current use.
[1:25:18] So as they develop those pieces of property,
[1:25:20] the current use money gets paid to us.
[1:25:22] Yeah. Every time they sell a, every time they sell a lot
[1:25:25] or a home there, we get a check,
[1:25:27] Which is kind of nice.
[1:25:28] That's all I have, Mr. Chair.
[1:25:30] Thank you. Okay.
[1:25:33] Beth, we have you LA in a report.
[1:25:36] All right. I'm over here 'cause I just have some visuals
[1:25:39] for you all that I'll refer to when we need to.
[1:25:44] So, but the first thing is a couple of votes.
[1:25:47] So one is you all need
[1:25:51] to vote on paying Noah $450
[1:25:55] for tilling the community garden this year.
[1:25:58] He also helped us move a lot of the manure over there
[1:26:02] and like spread that out.
[1:26:04] So that was very helpful.
[1:26:06] So we'll take those up as, as they,
[1:26:07] you might as well just take them up as you go. Do
[1:26:09] We have an invoice for that? Beth?
[1:26:10] Say that again? Do we have an invoice
[1:26:12] yet from Noah for that?
[1:26:15] That's a good question because
[1:26:18] We're gonna pay 'em.
[1:26:19] We need it. We need that.
[1:26:20] Yes. I I believe if we don't have an invoice
[1:26:23] I can get one from him.
[1:26:24] Okay, good. Can I get his last name? You
[1:26:26] Need a vote for it?
[1:26:27] Yeah. Noah's last name.
[1:26:28] Noah's last name. I don't know Noah's last name.
[1:26:31] It's Noah's Tractor service.
[1:26:32] I don't wanna pay any off.
[1:26:34] You know, I wanna pay the right Noah. Yeah, yeah,
[1:26:36] Yeah.
[1:26:37] Right.
[1:26:37] Noah's tractor service Building a boat, right?
[1:26:40] C is The, is the business name.
[1:26:42] So Noah's tractor service. Noahs tractor service.
[1:26:45] Okay. Alright. So we'll, we'll take 'em as they go.
[1:26:47] As they come. Yeah. Is that okay? Okay. Alright.
[1:26:49] So I moved to approve paying Noah's tractor service $450
[1:26:54] for tilling the funds to be taken out
[1:26:56] of the preservation account.
[1:26:58] First. First by Mr. Metz. We have a second by Cheryl.
[1:27:02] All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
[1:27:07] That motion carries unanimously.
[1:27:10] And you're gonna get Eileen an invoice for that, please?
[1:27:12] Yes. Yes. Okay.
[1:27:14] And then we have, so there's a
[1:27:20] $13,000 account for
[1:27:24] stewardship of the Cornelius
[1:27:26] and property that we did some digging to find out
[1:27:30] what we're able to use those funds for.
[1:27:32] So some earlier funds that you've already voted on
[1:27:37] and have already been taken care of.
[1:27:40] But I spoke
[1:27:41] with Mark Fleischer in the finance department about
[1:27:45] how we can have the, the tree filling
[1:27:48] that we had at Cornelius in
[1:27:50] and the expense for conservation grass seed mix
[1:27:55] that we had spread at Cornelius in can be, we can use
[1:27:59] that account for those.
[1:28:00] So he just needs a vote on the record
[1:28:04] that you all would like to use those funds
[1:28:08] to cover those expenses.
[1:28:10] And Mr. Mets, before you do that, just
[1:28:12] so people understand what that is.
[1:28:13] So we have a specific $13,000 pot of money
[1:28:16] that was allocated when we got the Cornelson property
[1:28:20] that can only be used for the maintenance of
[1:28:22] that Cornelson property.
[1:28:23] So it's important for us to spend
[1:28:25] that money when we're using that
[1:28:26] 'cause we're not, we don't do a lot of expending.
[1:28:28] And it was, it was
[1:28:30] because of Beth that we found out in our,
[1:28:32] in our new meetings with, with the town finance folks we're,
[1:28:36] we're discovering stuff as we go.
[1:28:38] And that this is one of those discoveries.
[1:28:40] So, so we're gonna
[1:28:42] reallocate the funds have already been approved,
[1:28:45] we just need to reallocate that those funds are going to be
[1:28:50] allocated to that Cornelius account.
[1:28:54] Right. Well, and those minutes, so those
[1:28:57] Bills have already been like when you gave them
[1:28:59] to me, I I Right.
[1:29:00] Processed them and sent them in to the town.
[1:29:03] So they're already in Yep.
[1:29:04] Where were those funds taken from originally?
[1:29:08] 'cause what we're doing is voting a transfer. Right?
[1:29:12] 13 $1,460 from the coordination fund to
[1:29:16] as a reimbursement. Right. So
[1:29:18] It's, I have to look
[1:29:19] Up what we originally said we were gonna take 'em out of.
[1:29:22] I Mark doesn't need that. But
[1:29:23] Doesn't Okay.
[1:29:25] What Mark needs is minutes saying that we we're allocating
[1:29:30] the 1460 that we already spent
[1:29:32] and we want those, those funds to be allocated
[1:29:35] to the Cornelius and maintenance right account.
[1:29:39] We need, we need an motion it sounds like that.
[1:29:42] Okay. I move to approve taking 1300 for tree felling
[1:29:47] and 160 for conservation grass seed
[1:29:51] for those things done at the Cornelius
[1:29:53] and Farm out of the Cornelius and stewardship account.
[1:29:58] Previously dispersed funds, Mr. Mess. Yeah.
[1:30:00] Yep. Previously dispersed
[1:30:01] Funds.
[1:30:02] What was the amount for the grass seed again?
[1:30:03] TH one 60 for the grass seed. Okay.
[1:30:05] Which there's a motion on on the floor to as an accounting
[1:30:09] change to allocate
[1:30:14] those funds previously dispersed
[1:30:17] to the Eson maintenance fund.
[1:30:20] Is there a second?
[1:30:22] Second. Okay. This is a first by Mr. Mets.
[1:30:25] I second by Commissioner Val. All those in favor say aye.
[1:30:28] Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions.
[1:30:31] Motion carries unanimously.
[1:30:32] Thank you Beth Key, continue. Great. Great.
[1:30:35] And then just an update on the CWPP.
[1:30:37] So since our last meeting, that first draft was completed
[1:30:41] by the core team and it's currently being reviewed
[1:30:44] by the fire chief and when he is done reviewing it,
[1:30:47] it's gonna move on to the next step of review
[1:30:51] by other officials in town
[1:30:55] the mike.
[1:30:58] So through working with John Neely for the CWPP,
[1:31:02] he put us in touch with Mike Gagnan at the UNH extension
[1:31:08] and he, the forester who has offered
[1:31:12] to attend a future meeting to discuss the process
[1:31:15] of creating a forest management plan with us.
[1:31:19] 'cause we don't currently have a forest management plan in
[1:31:22] place for, there was the process started
[1:31:26] of putting together forest management plan
[1:31:29] for a number of our properties.
[1:31:31] But he said that he can come do that if we decide to do
[1:31:35] that at a future meeting.
[1:31:37] He can't create the forest management plan for us,
[1:31:40] but he can help guide us through the process of that.
[1:31:44] So he reached out to us.
[1:31:47] And then for the bio blitz,
[1:31:49] so we have six individuals signed up so far for 13 sessions.
[1:31:55] 'cause there's four sessions throughout the day.
[1:31:57] So six individuals have already signed up
[1:32:00] and I pressed this button I think.
[1:32:07] Yay. Okay, great.
[1:32:10] Oh no. Okay, hang on. There we go.
[1:32:15] Okay. So I just wanted
[1:32:19] to bring up this QR code so that anybody watching at home
[1:32:23] can sign up via the QR code there
[1:32:27] for the BioBlitz.
[1:32:29] So that is where you would sign up.
[1:32:31] We also have posters printed for that.
[1:32:34] And I would, I have a list of places
[1:32:37] that have bulletin boards, like places around town
[1:32:39] that allow you to hang posters either in their windows
[1:32:42] or on bulletin boards.
[1:32:44] So just see me after the meeting to grab some posters
[1:32:48] and sign your name on that so
[1:32:50] that we don't have overlap people going to the same place.
[1:32:54] And then we also heard from Matt Tar from UNH extension,
[1:32:59] Barbara from N-H-A-C-C put us in touch with him
[1:33:04] and he would like to lead a walk at Broadview on
[1:33:07] September 18th at 4:00 PM That would be a follow up
[1:33:10] to the BioBlitz we in,
[1:33:14] in discussing in the land maintenance committee
[1:33:17] earlier this year, one of the volunteers, Karen,
[1:33:21] who volunteered on that committee, not as a commissioner,
[1:33:26] but just as a volunteer, mentioned
[1:33:28] that September is a really good time to visit Broadview
[1:33:31] and see the flowers in bloom
[1:33:33] and things have kind, you know, the foliage is a really
[1:33:36] beautiful color at that point.
[1:33:38] So we're planning a walk at Broadview
[1:33:42] September 18th at 4:00 PM
[1:33:45] Is that a Friday, Beth? It's a Friday.
[1:33:47] That is I believe a Friday. Yes.
[1:33:52] And then also with broad view.
[1:33:54] So I'll bring my second visual up here.
[1:33:59] So we have some, this is the,
[1:34:01] oops, sorry.
[1:34:05] Lemme just bring it up again.
[1:34:15] Second reason why I am up here instead
[1:34:18] of over there tonight,
[1:34:20] How long do you use your foot?
[1:34:22] Okay.
[1:34:29] All right. So we have a few
[1:34:33] no trespassing signs that were brought
[1:34:38] to the attention by a resident.
[1:34:40] Were brought to our attention
[1:34:43] by a former commissioner actually.
[1:34:45] And the red dots are
[1:34:48] where the no trespassing signs were found on broad view.
[1:34:52] This is a map of broad view, huh.
[1:34:55] And we, or
[1:34:59] after speaking with Bob about this as far as what
[1:35:01] to do about the no trespassing signs, you know,
[1:35:04] since we've seen that these, at least these four here
[1:35:09] are in, are well within the bounds of the property.
[1:35:13] We should be able to remove them
[1:35:16] and we can keep them in case the owner
[1:35:18] of them comes looking for them.
[1:35:20] But we have sent out two communications so far to the owner
[1:35:25] of this property right here that is privately owned property
[1:35:29] with the conservation easement on it.
[1:35:30] And his name
[1:35:33] was on the no trespassing signs here.
[1:35:36] Paul Arba. So I,
[1:35:41] you all just need to vote to,
[1:35:44] to have me take the signs down.
[1:35:48] We would keep the, this one
[1:35:51] and this one, we would not remove these two since they are
[1:35:55] right on the, on the boundary line.
[1:35:59] But this boundary here is actually a stonewall.
[1:36:04] So it's very clear where the boundary is
[1:36:07] and it's very clear that these no trespassing signs are
[1:36:11] well within the bounds of, of the town owned property.
[1:36:17] So just, just as a heads up,
[1:36:20] this isn't the first time we've had this
[1:36:23] issue issue on that property.
[1:36:25] Yep. So the motion would look,
[1:36:28] would sound something like authorizing the land manager
[1:36:31] to remove the signs
[1:36:36] that are not on the boundary lines,
[1:36:39] but inside the property into preserve those signs
[1:36:45] for six months.
[1:36:49] Something like that.
[1:36:50] Can I just ask a question? Of course.
[1:36:52] I was just, just clarification, is that an abutter that is
[1:36:56] putting up no trespassing sign,
[1:36:58] but it's actually on the conservation property. So
[1:37:02] It's allegedly the abutter.
[1:37:03] We, we we're, we're okay. We don't know,
[1:37:05] But sometimes these signs appear in places
[1:37:08] and we don't exactly know.
[1:37:09] But No, I mean, and,
[1:37:10] and the, the purpose being that sort of blaming it
[1:37:13] for a different, just a little confused.
[1:37:17] So, and just to clarify,
[1:37:18] because on no trespassing signs, you have to have a, a name
[1:37:22] and address on the sign.
[1:37:24] Huh? I don't believe that there's an address,
[1:37:26] but there is the name Paul Zba.
[1:37:29] Okay. Is is on that.
[1:37:30] And that is the owner of this, of this property here.
[1:37:33] Okay. Thank you.
[1:37:35] That doesn't mean that Paul Zba put his
[1:37:37] name on that sign Right.
[1:37:38] And put the sign up. Sure, sure.
[1:37:40] But someone put up a sign
[1:37:41] that says Paul zba on a tree. Sure.
[1:37:43] Yeah. And also I feel like important context which we had
[1:37:46] is there's the, the trail that comes up, that's the,
[1:37:49] it's a really narrow, isn't it just the trail
[1:37:52] that exists there for access.
[1:37:55] So it's like basically just the trail to get in, get
[1:37:58] to broad view and then you're in broad view.
[1:38:00] But they're Right. The signs along the trail against
[1:38:03] that property, which is,
[1:38:04] That was an easement that was granted
[1:38:06] to us a long time ago. By Mr. Zaba.
[1:38:09] Yeah. By Mr. Zaba. Yeah. Okay.
[1:38:12] But I, people should be allowed to walk in there.
[1:38:15] Just that narrow path.
[1:38:17] Yeah. So again, we're not, we're not proposing
[1:38:19] to remove this no trespassing sign Right.
[1:38:22] Or this one because neither of them seem to be like they're,
[1:38:26] they're placed in such a way that, you know, it's not trying
[1:38:30] to keep people out from accessing that trail
[1:38:33] or getting into broad view.
[1:38:34] Okay. Is that's very important. It's, it's placed in a way
[1:38:36] that's trying to prevent people from going into,
[1:38:39] from the trail here into the field.
[1:38:42] Right. So as you're walking along,
[1:38:44] the no trespassing sign is facing into broad view to try
[1:38:49] to stop people from,
[1:38:51] from going over the line over to the field.
[1:38:54] It's not necessarily like discouraging people from
[1:38:57] coming into broad Exactly.
[1:38:58] Might the way it's positioned. Correct. Right.
[1:39:00] It's not sort of an ominous, like no. Okay. 'cause
[1:39:03] That's really important. So
[1:39:04] Yeah.
[1:39:06] So we already have sent letters one letter or two letters.
[1:39:11] Two letters. Yep. Okay.
[1:39:13] Alerting him to the fact
[1:39:14] that we don't believe they're on the property line. Yep.
[1:39:17] Yeah. With
[1:39:19] When they're removed, I, I would
[1:39:22] ask him if he wants the signs back.
[1:39:24] Okay. So send another letter asking if
[1:39:26] he would like them back. Yeah.
[1:39:27] And say they we will, we will hold them
[1:39:29] for a period of six months. Right. Okay.
[1:39:31] Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:39:33] So with all this information I'd like to make a motion then
[1:39:36] to authorize Beth, the land manager
[1:39:38] to remove those four signs
[1:39:41] that we have identified within the
[1:39:43] boundary lines of the property.
[1:39:44] And to take, I mean, did I just reverse that? No,
[1:39:49] You did good three. Keep going.
[1:39:50] Oh, okay. I thought I just said the signs in reverse.
[1:39:52] I authorized land the land manager
[1:39:54] to remove the two unauthorized four fudge.
[1:39:58] I had to write the first time you did
[1:39:59] to remove the four authorized unauthorized signs,
[1:40:03] no trespassing signs
[1:40:04] that are within the boundaries of the property.
[1:40:08] Sending a notification letter to the possible abutter
[1:40:11] who may have put the signs up that we would hold the signs
[1:40:13] for a period of six months for them to retrieve them.
[1:40:17] That's a great motion. Sorry.
[1:40:19] Great job down. I
[1:40:21] Shouldn't have second guessed myself. Second
[1:40:24] In the middle there.
[1:40:25] Second that one. Amazing.
[1:40:26] I think I didn't want a third on that one.
[1:40:28] That's a, I'll second the first half. That's a good motion.
[1:40:33] Alright, so we have a first by commissioner Val,
[1:40:37] second by Commissioner Cheryl.
[1:40:39] Alls in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions. Unanimous.
[1:40:43] Nice work. What else you got? What else you got Beth?
[1:40:46] All right, great. So then we have,
[1:40:49] oh I gotta find my mouse here.
[1:40:52] The Margaret Dives conservation land.
[1:40:55] So the sign there at the trail head was leaning
[1:40:59] and we reached out to DPW
[1:41:02] and they very kindly straightened it out for us
[1:41:06] and they also freshened up the white paint
[1:41:08] that was making the letters.
[1:41:10] And so I will,
[1:41:12] Yeah, I was there recently
[1:41:13] and it looks good. I can vouch for
[1:41:15] That and I'll just bring up a visual since I'm here.
[1:41:20] Yeah, I saw the picture of it. Oh
[1:41:24] I posted today.
[1:41:25] Yeah. Woo. So, so that's just a photo of the,
[1:41:30] the trailhead that is currently in place
[1:41:34] and that was the post
[1:41:36] that Linda made tonight about our meeting.
[1:41:40] And my next visual is I reached out
[1:41:45] to three different Boy Scout troops
[1:41:50] in asking if there are any Eagle Scouts
[1:41:53] or you know, Eagle Scout hopefuls who would like
[1:41:58] to assist us with
[1:42:00] creating a new trail head kiosk since this one,
[1:42:03] as you can see is kind of in rough shape.
[1:42:05] Yeah. And I sent along this publication to them just
[1:42:09] to give them an idea of, of what we're looking for.
[1:42:16] So if you all have a preference
[1:42:20] of the type of kiosk.
[1:42:22] Right. So here's one that has a cover
[1:42:26] and then they have other,
[1:42:28] and this is I think 2010 money.
[1:42:34] So twice That, yeah.
[1:42:36] Fix That. But just to give you an idea, I know
[1:42:39] that they usually help with fundraising for these things.
[1:42:43] They sometimes idea's
[1:42:44] Donated too. So
[1:42:46] Yeah.
[1:42:48] So they, they have the two designs, one with that has a,
[1:42:52] a cover a, a roof on it
[1:42:55] and then another
[1:42:57] that is more so like this,
[1:43:02] That's what turn It.
[1:43:03] But yeah. So very similar to what's there
[1:43:06] that doesn't have a roof
[1:43:07] or really like a, you know, it would just have the, the name
[1:43:11] of the, of the land without really much room for,
[1:43:16] you know, for placing information and whatnot.
[1:43:20] So if you all have any feedback on that as far as
[1:43:28] what you would like to communicate to them as far as like
[1:43:31] what kind of trailhead we would like,
[1:43:35] then you can send that along.
[1:43:39] Let's, why don't we wait for a reply from them. Sure.
[1:43:42] And then we'll take that up at the next meeting.
[1:43:44] I like the ones with the roofs on 'em.
[1:43:46] I feel like we should, yeah we should probably
[1:43:47] like broad view look a little better.
[1:43:48] Angry. Go with those moving forward. Hope
[1:43:51] I didn't mess anything up.
[1:43:52] Okay. It's coming back. I think
[1:43:55] Owen's. Owen's coming.
[1:43:58] Okay. Sorry.
[1:44:03] Okay, so last little bit is,
[1:44:09] so a correspondence.
[1:44:10] We got a woman
[1:44:12] who reached out asking if it would be possible
[1:44:15] to have a sign put up on Hampstead Road warning
[1:44:19] of Turtles crossing.
[1:44:21] So right
[1:44:23] where Cunningham Brook crosses over Hampstead Road.
[1:44:28] Yeah. She said that she's observed some turtles being run
[1:44:31] over by vehicles
[1:44:33] and you know, just reached out saying
[1:44:36] what can we do if there's anything
[1:44:37] that we can do about that. So,
[1:44:39] And she helped one And she helped one cross the
[1:44:42] road and she helped cross her road. Really?
[1:44:44] Oh awesome. Yeah. And she stopped and helped.
[1:44:46] That's awesome. Which is, you know what, you're not supposed
[1:44:49] to touch wildlife but in like that case,
[1:44:51] if there's a turtle on the road Right.
[1:44:53] Help it or at least stop your car
[1:44:55] and let it get across before someone else.
[1:44:56] But always help the turtle go in the
[1:44:59] direction it's wanting to go.
[1:45:00] Like if you find it in the middle of the road
[1:45:03] and it's heading this way.
[1:45:05] Yeah. Send 'em that way. Put it over on that side,
[1:45:07] not don't take it back to the other side.
[1:45:10] 'cause it, it's very important
[1:45:11] 'cause turtles have a pattern every year that they follow
[1:45:15] going back to where they were originally born. In fact. So
[1:45:19] Beth, I think you crashed the entire I know.
[1:45:21] I'm so sorry. I just unplugged it. I'm
[1:45:23] Like crash municipal center
[1:45:27] mainframe. I thought
[1:45:28] I had it.
[1:45:29] I thought I had it down at this point I'm like okay,
[1:45:31] plug it in, push the button, I got this. I get it
[1:45:33] Mean the whole mainframe's now for the state.
[1:45:35] I think on a lighter, no Beth, if
[1:45:38] We put crossing signs up, can we get the turtles
[1:45:40] to use the flashers? Yeah.
[1:45:42] Because humans, Humans definitely don't.
[1:45:45] I know, right. Okay. This was a funny discussion.
[1:45:48] So this, this came through my email, I sent it to Beth
[1:45:51] and I'm like, I don't even know where to begin.
[1:45:52] Where do you get fur? First of all,
[1:45:53] where do you get turtle crossing signs?
[1:45:55] Second He put 'em up.
[1:45:56] I've seen them too, but he puts 'em up to town or the state.
[1:45:59] So I'm curious to hear what you found out.
[1:46:02] Well we have, I, I haven't found out much besides a name
[1:46:05] and number of the person who does know.
[1:46:07] So we're waiting to hear
[1:46:08] back, waiting to hear from that person.
[1:46:10] Absolutely. But at least we are in touch
[1:46:11] with the right person who deals with that kind of stuff.
[1:46:14] And when I, I did reach out to New Hampshire, DOT was the,
[1:46:18] the entity to reach out to
[1:46:20] and they knew exactly where to send me to him.
[1:46:23] So it sounds like this is not, you know, a question
[1:46:26] that nobody knows the answer to this is they do,
[1:46:28] they know what to do, they answer. Yeah.
[1:46:30] It seems to me from a public outreach standpoint,
[1:46:32] like you could really kind of talk turtles
[1:46:34] like at dairy farmer's market at,
[1:46:37] at these two events we're talking about at Dairy Fest, like,
[1:46:39] I don't know, like redesigned, put a turtle on a t-shirt,
[1:46:42] have some kind of turtle activity thing
[1:46:44] and appeal to like kids with turtles.
[1:46:45] It's a really popular subject
[1:46:47] and just kind of raise turtle awareness.
[1:46:49] So at the very least if like this word of mouth,
[1:46:51] people are a little more aware
[1:46:53] and you know, if they see a turtle.
[1:46:55] 'cause it may just be something that's not on people's
[1:46:57] radars, but it's a really fun
[1:46:59] and accessible animal creature to raise awareness generally.
[1:47:04] So that may be something we can discuss.
[1:47:05] And there is that could be new,
[1:47:06] could be really fun Turtle rescue
[1:47:07] Organization.
[1:47:08] Yeah. And I got a newsletter from them the other day, so,
[1:47:12] so did I That's important to share.
[1:47:13] Yeah, like little turtle
[1:47:14] tchotchkes at the farmer's market.
[1:47:16] Really. I mean turtle. Turtle.
[1:47:17] And then they get around and people know what they are
[1:47:19] and then we, we hide 'em in places
[1:47:20] and we put 'em on Facebook
[1:47:21] and it, it would just be a fun like a little campaign there
[1:47:25] that can just by word of mouth raise awareness
[1:47:27] and could make a difference. Yep.
[1:47:30] Huge difference. And I'm sure there's other places
[1:47:31] that we could identify that probably need a similar sign.
[1:47:33] So this is a good road to go down. Yeah,
[1:47:36] Definitely.
[1:47:38] And the last thing is that there was a GIS tools
[1:47:41] for identifying wetlands training
[1:47:44] and I do have a link to the recording for that
[1:47:49] and the passcode to it.
[1:47:50] So if anybody would like to watch it, just reach out to me
[1:47:53] and I can send you the link and the passcode.
[1:47:57] That is all.
[1:47:59] Okay. Any questions for Beth?
[1:48:03] That little a round of applause for Beth. I know, right?
[1:48:06] Wow. Nice work. Beth.
[1:48:11] We, I I think there's, there's a mistake here.
[1:48:14] Are we not meeting June 15th? I feel like we're not. Huh?
[1:48:17] I don't think we are. We are. Yes
[1:48:18] We are.
[1:48:19] Oh we are. Yeah we are.
[1:48:21] I know. I thought that that was,
[1:48:24] I thought we had one meeting in
[1:48:25] June, but I might be wrong.
[1:48:28] Oh. 'cause I can't do the 15th
[1:48:30] and I thought you couldn't neither.
[1:48:32] Is that true? Look,
[1:48:34] No, that was May, so May 18th we didn't have a meeting.
[1:48:38] Right. And that was because neither of you could do it.
[1:48:40] Right. And I do remember thinking when we scheduled two
[1:48:44] meetings in June, are we only supposed to have one in June?
[1:48:48] And brought it up and confirmed
[1:48:51] that there are supposed to be two meetings.
[1:48:52] Supposed to be two in June. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:48:53] I think July and August. The only ones we do
[1:48:55] One.
[1:48:56] Yes. Wait, can we confirm those dates, dates while we're
[1:48:57] Here?
[1:48:58] I can't do the, the 13th one is at if necessary.
[1:49:01] So we're only gonna meet on July 13th.
[1:49:04] Oh really? Okay. So
[1:49:06] If necessary not the sixth, if we have a site plan review.
[1:49:08] Right. Or we have business necessary that we have to meet,
[1:49:14] But we're not gonna meet June 15th.
[1:49:16] The June 15th. Think we have to decide tonight.
[1:49:18] I am not available June 15th. I am available. So Mr. Mr.
[1:49:22] Metz wants to have a meeting. We can keep it on the agenda
[1:49:25] and, and it sounds like he's available
[1:49:26] so we're gonna keep it on the agenda.
[1:49:28] Okay. Alright. So June 15th is a yes with Mets. Yep.
[1:49:32] That we do not have a Owen meeting that night, right?
[1:49:36] Correct. We do have a Owen meeting on
[1:49:41] July 13th if we're gonna have the meeting though.
[1:49:44] Okay. Got it. That so you guys can decide that on the 15th.
[1:49:47] I might be able to, I might be available
[1:49:48] via Zoom on the 15th.
[1:49:50] So I'll try to attend via Zoom as a,
[1:49:54] as a commissioner though, not as the chair.
[1:49:56] Don't trust.
[1:49:59] So I had some stuff with the mission
[1:50:02] and like guide handbook project
[1:50:04] and I was hoping I was actively
[1:50:06] before this meeting, crafting an email to send to
[1:50:09] everyone for the materials.
[1:50:10] Should I hold on those until after those if
[1:50:13] No, let's, let's bring that up on other business.
[1:50:16] Let's bring it up now in a second. Okay. Yeah.
[1:50:20] Getting, just, just I want to, I want to whittle down on,
[1:50:24] on the meeting so everyone has those meetings.
[1:50:26] The 13th is if necessary
[1:50:28] and then the rest of them are get 'em.
[1:50:30] I want everybody to kinda get 'em in their calendar
[1:50:32] because we only have one meeting
[1:50:34] and I, I wanna make sure we have people here.
[1:50:36] So get get those meetings in your calendar please.
[1:50:42] And then for other business we will start with Val.
[1:50:45] Okay. Right now. Okay. One second. Let me open it.
[1:50:47] I wasn't ready for this. I'd had
[1:50:54] A document with some questions
[1:50:57] and things kind of just to get some discussions started.
[1:51:00] I know that I've met
[1:51:01] with some people individually in the past just to kind
[1:51:04] of get to know you, your background
[1:51:06] and some things that kind of pulled
[1:51:07] you to this line of work.
[1:51:09] But in the sense of really refining or, you know, drafting
[1:51:14] and refining and kind of going through these, you know,
[1:51:16] mission statement, that's something
[1:51:17] that should be collaborative.
[1:51:18] So I wanted to make sure that whatever I was doing
[1:51:21] wasn't just a one-sided thing.
[1:51:23] You know, this is something that we should all have part in
[1:51:25] defining as it's something that we all are striving toward.
[1:51:30] I have this document, I don't,
[1:51:31] I can't like put it up on the screen or anything.
[1:51:35] I have some drafts here and then I can send it out.
[1:51:39] Otherwise I can try putting it up on the screen.
[1:51:42] Maybe with Owen's help. Yes. Okay.
[1:51:46] Oh yes, for the win. And
[1:51:49] I have a conversion 'cause my laptop is a C,
[1:51:52] Not an A
[1:52:01] have I don't have an hd, other A No.
[1:52:06] Dang dang it. We can't put it on the thing. Do
[1:52:09] You wanna email it to me?
[1:52:10] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[1:52:11] Yeah.
[1:52:12] Okay. Sorry everyone that we're like,
[1:52:15] I wasn't prepared for this.
[1:52:16] I'm just gonna send this, just talk
[1:52:18] Amongst yourselves.
[1:52:20] Beth, ignore the rest of this email
[1:52:21] since it's already drafted.
[1:52:22] I'm just sending it to you with the, with the file attached.
[1:52:24] Okay.
[1:52:33] Thank you. A lifesaver.
[1:52:35] Yeah, I'll just put my laptop here so you can, yeah.
[1:52:40] Okay. Hopefully I don't break it again.
[1:52:41] Note to self get an HDMI conversion. Yeah.
[1:52:47] Okay.
[1:53:00] As well.
[1:53:10] All right, well disorienting.
[1:53:11] You gotta like look up there. It's not gonna be on
[1:53:14] The screen.
[1:53:15] Yeah, that's right.
[1:53:18] You can see my self energy.
[1:53:22] Okay. There we go. Thanks man. Yeah.
[1:53:25] Okay, so this is just the document
[1:53:27] that I was planning on sending out to you guys kind of just
[1:53:29] to create, get some talking points going
[1:53:31] and getting everyone's different
[1:53:33] perspectives and thoughts on this.
[1:53:35] So just some guiding questions while building this.
[1:53:38] I thought of the purpose, mission, and vision statement.
[1:53:41] While they all do seem the same
[1:53:42] and it might be overkill
[1:53:43] developing them all at the same time.
[1:53:44] They are all different.
[1:53:46] And help us define some of the work that we do in the scope
[1:53:49] of our responsibilities.
[1:53:51] So some guiding questions for the purpose.
[1:53:53] Why does the conservation commission exist
[1:53:55] beyond the responsibilities assigned by RSA 36 A?
[1:54:00] Just in response to this question, something that came up
[1:54:02] for me was really that community piece.
[1:54:05] So a lot of things RSA is really definitive.
[1:54:07] You know, these are the lands, you protect them, this is
[1:54:09] how, this is how you manage the funds.
[1:54:11] That kind of stuff is defined there.
[1:54:13] But that's something that I kind of thought of that it,
[1:54:15] you know, is something that we, as a purpose why we exist
[1:54:17] to engage the community and connect them in nature.
[1:54:20] You know, some things that were just touched on in our,
[1:54:21] I naturalists, you know, the
[1:54:22] purpose for these kinds of events.
[1:54:26] What is a unique, what unique role does the Conservation
[1:54:29] Commission play within the town of dairy?
[1:54:31] I'm just gonna blast through these.
[1:54:33] If the concert conservation commission did not exist,
[1:54:36] what would the town lose?
[1:54:37] And I personally thought that
[1:54:38] that was a, would be quite a lot.
[1:54:42] Some more things including, you know, some central things
[1:54:45] for the mission statement.
[1:54:46] Again, these were all just questions
[1:54:48] that I'd been asking myself leading up to this.
[1:54:50] And it kind of got me to these three statements here.
[1:54:55] The purpose literally just describing our purpose
[1:54:57] as authorized under RSA 36 A.
[1:55:00] The Conservation Commission exists to ensure
[1:55:02] that dairy's natural resources
[1:55:04] and open spaces are not only protected today,
[1:55:06] but stewarded understood
[1:55:08] and strengthened for the benefit of future generations.
[1:55:11] That's pretty, pretty straightforward.
[1:55:12] And you know, the RSA and a little bit expanded on mission
[1:55:17] and vision is where I kind of started building off of
[1:55:20] the Dairy Conservation Commission promotes the identity
[1:55:23] resilience and environmental health of the community
[1:55:26] through the protection of, through the protection,
[1:55:29] stewardship, and expansion of open spaces, natural resources
[1:55:34] and conservation lands supported by education, advocacy,
[1:55:38] and community collaboration.
[1:55:41] So that's kind of, you know, what we do,
[1:55:43] what we're striving towards, these are the things that kind
[1:55:45] of, we put all together that we all bring to the table.
[1:55:48] Each piece of us, you know, kind of builds on this mission.
[1:55:52] And the vision's a little bit different from that.
[1:55:54] A little bit more loosey goosey, a vision,
[1:55:55] a dream of what we would like.
[1:55:57] So our vision is dairy will be a community
[1:55:59] with a lasting legacy of conservation where forests,
[1:56:03] wetlands, waterways, wildlife habitats
[1:56:05] and open spaces are recognized as essential
[1:56:08] to the town's character, environmental,
[1:56:10] health and quality of life.
[1:56:12] Through informed stewardship, community engagement,
[1:56:15] and long-term commitment to conservation.
[1:56:17] These resources will remain protected, resilient,
[1:56:20] and valued by future generations.
[1:56:24] So these were kind of the statements that I kind
[1:56:26] of drafted up from those questions
[1:56:27] and kind of from some of these themes, I kind
[1:56:30] of pulled these, I did a little ethnography on some of our
[1:56:33] conversations and these were some themes that I kind
[1:56:36] of pulled from and wanted to make sure
[1:56:38] that they were addressed
[1:56:39] or mentioned in some way of, in these statements.
[1:56:44] But this is definitely something that I would love
[1:56:47] that we all need to collaborate on
[1:56:49] and make sure that, you know, we all align
[1:56:50] with these statements as a commission.
[1:56:53] You know, I know Rick was saying if we were gonna do this,
[1:56:55] we wanted to keep it short and sweet
[1:56:56] and I feel like some of these were
[1:56:58] maybe have been a mouthful.
[1:56:59] No, that's something I was thinking of.
[1:57:01] No, I think they're good. I think good next steps would be
[1:57:03] get get it out to the commissioners and Yeah.
[1:57:06] Solicit feedback. Yeah.
[1:57:07] And we'll, we'll whittle it down
[1:57:09] and maybe tweak it a little bit.
[1:57:10] Yeah. That way we can give some thoughtful input.
[1:57:12] Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
[1:57:13] But it looks good. Good start. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:57:14] So I'll get this sent.
[1:57:15] I know Beth already has the whole email,
[1:57:17] but I'll get it sent out.
[1:57:18] That way everyone can read it over and stuff.
[1:57:20] And along with this, I have been working on, especially
[1:57:24] with some of our new conservation commissioners, I mean,
[1:57:27] it was a resource I had started when I had joined was kind
[1:57:30] of like a guidebook to accompany the N-H-A-C-C guidebook.
[1:57:33] Something that was a little bit more specific toward dairy,
[1:57:35] our processes, our specific subcommittees
[1:57:37] and things as they differ between towns.
[1:57:40] And I was hoping to send out, you know,
[1:57:42] it's a larger thing than this of course, so I couldn't go
[1:57:45] through it now, but send it out to you guys,
[1:57:46] get some experience from,
[1:57:48] get some input from experience commissioners.
[1:57:50] People have been doing this for some time, some
[1:57:52] of our new commissioners.
[1:57:54] I know that there's a lot to come in on this
[1:57:56] and if you've had questions this time
[1:57:58] and hopefully this guidebook can answer them
[1:57:59] and if you still have questions it would be
[1:58:02] great to pass them along.
[1:58:03] But that's another resource I
[1:58:04] kind of wanted to send out with this.
[1:58:05] 'cause they kind of go hand in hand.
[1:58:07] But yeah, just some food for thought
[1:58:08] until our next meeting. Yeah,
[1:58:11] Good.
[1:58:12] So yeah. Yeah. We'll you'll get some feedback I'm sure.
[1:58:14] Yeah, I'll have this sent out today.
[1:58:15] And really, val, I admire your passion about it.
[1:58:17] It really is. It's admirable.
[1:58:18] It's great. It's fantastic. Step back
[1:58:20] A minute. I know I started this
[1:58:21] Last year, but, okay.
[1:58:23] Alright.
[1:58:25] I don't wanna break it. I just press the button
[1:58:27] and unplug it or press
[1:58:30] The button.
[1:58:31] Don't, just don't let Beth touch it. Unplug it.
[1:58:34] Wait, not, let, not that serious.
[1:58:38] Second my
[1:58:39] Dad and my science project all over again.
[1:58:41] Keep that away. State police are like how come, how come?
[1:58:45] Nothing's working.
[1:58:48] Whoops. Alright. Any other, any more other business
[1:58:51] before we go into non-public?
[1:58:52] And just a heads up, we are at 8 58
[1:58:56] and we're supposed to adjourn at nine, so,
[1:58:59] Sorry, I didn't mean to add
[1:59:00] that I have something to each other.
[1:59:01] Yes, Eileen, go ahead. I wanna ask Rick Metz if he, if he,
[1:59:04] if when you were on the TRC
[1:59:07] did anything get presented in regards to, you know,
[1:59:10] the Lane Road project?
[1:59:11] You know how we only got to see the houses that were along
[1:59:17] actually on Island Pond Road, the
[1:59:18] Ones that are being built Now.
[1:59:19] There's some being built now that are on the lane road side
[1:59:23] that weren't on that plan.
[1:59:25] And I'm concerned because I, well I do see a a,
[1:59:30] it's like a rolled mulch barrier
[1:59:32] along the wetlands edge on the lane roads way far down.
[1:59:36] But there's an awful lot of like
[1:59:39] material getting moved out there. And so yeah,
[1:59:41] I haven't, I haven't seen in the last week
[1:59:42] or so, I did go by there
[1:59:44] and saw where they, where they were working on Island Pond.
[1:59:48] Yeah. And they're not encroaching real close
[1:59:50] to the water. I haven't looked around
[1:59:52] The corner.
[1:59:53] Well, there's disturbed soil that goes right up to the edge.
[1:59:55] So I'm really kind of
[1:59:57] Wonder that would be something wondering if that
[1:59:58] before Code enforcement done
[2:00:00] That, that didn't come before you at TRC.
[2:00:02] It it did, but we, we discussed it here.
[2:00:07] Well, not, not those particular lots.
[2:00:09] We only saw the ones along Island Pond Road
[2:00:11] that were way up high.
[2:00:13] We didn't see the ones on Lane Road.
[2:00:15] There weren't any lots on Lane Road to my knowledge.
[2:00:18] No, there are. Okay.
[2:00:19] Well, concern that's something for,
[2:00:20] that's something from the billing,
[2:00:22] billing inspector and code enforcement. Okay. So,
[2:00:24] So the lane road ones, if they were, if they were,
[2:00:27] if they met all of the,
[2:00:31] what we call a plan a lot,
[2:00:33] meaning it had it had sufficient setbacks,
[2:00:36] road frontage area, area, it would not,
[2:00:39] it would've not have come before us.
[2:00:41] But they pushed soil right up to the, and I don't,
[2:00:45] I'm Not saying that they didn't, if it incurred, some
[2:00:46] of it may have incurred into the wetland.
[2:00:48] I don't know. It's hard to tell from the road. But
[2:00:50] Yeah, I'm not saying that they didn't do that.
[2:00:51] I'm saying that it's a concern that we wouldn't,
[2:00:53] we wouldn't have seen the plan if it wasn't,
[2:00:56] if it wasn't like applied to push the,
[2:00:58] push the stuff into the well.
[2:01:00] And so you should reach out to Bob. Okay,
[2:01:02] I will.
[2:01:03] Yeah.
[2:01:04] Oh, Bob's no longer there. It's a Or
[2:01:06] Carrie. Yeah,
[2:01:07] Sorry Carrie.
[2:01:08] I'll reach out to her. I just wanted to know if
[2:01:10] It has been instinct, instinct for Bob.
[2:01:11] She's, she's pretty responsive too. Yeah. Right.
[2:01:14] Yeah. And she has to respond so
[2:01:16] that, that's how that works.
[2:01:17] If you, if you call, there's a ticket,
[2:01:19] there's a ticket written and the ticket has to be executed.
[2:01:22] So Okay. Can
[2:01:23] Call and I'll take a drive by tomorrow and Okay.
[2:01:25] See what it looks like.
[2:01:27] Anything else for other business
[2:01:29] before we go into non-public?
[2:01:30] Non-public is not gonna be, I don't know
[2:01:32] how long this PowerPoint is,
[2:01:33] but it's, I have a couple of things to talk about.
[2:01:36] We're not gonna have any action tonight.
[2:01:38] More just an information. I have a couple.
[2:01:41] I have a couple to, yeah, you have to come up.
[2:01:43] State your name for the record.
[2:01:45] Actually, you know, what is it?
[2:01:47] Because this isn't a public hearing, we need to, we need to,
[2:01:52] we need to vote to allow this.
[2:01:53] Right. All right, so, oh, I need a motion to allow
[2:01:58] gentlemen from the, from the
[2:02:02] move audience move. Move audience move
[2:02:04] To allow three minute public input.
[2:02:05] Okay. So the Mr. Metz has made a motion.
[2:02:08] Is there a second? I'll second that motion. Second by lien.
[2:02:11] All is in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?
[2:02:14] Abstentions. Hearing none.
[2:02:16] Just state your name and
[2:02:18] where you're from for the record, please.
[2:02:20] David Aventure, 26 Milton Moore Road. Hi y'all.
[2:02:24] Y'all know me at this point.
[2:02:25] I've been coming to these meetings for a couple months now.
[2:02:29] Unfortunately, I'm triple booked for the day
[2:02:31] of the bio blitz, so I will not be able to make it
[2:02:34] as I had planned to.
[2:02:37] I have other higher priority items that I have to get to.
[2:02:40] However, learning today that it's a 24 hour event,
[2:02:43] I might try to make it after my other obligations. Yeah,
[2:02:47] It's cool, right? You can go late.
[2:02:48] So, yeah. So I look forward
[2:02:51] to seeing you all again on the
[2:02:53] 15th is when the next meeting is.
[2:02:56] Yep. And other than that,
[2:02:57] have a nice night. Alright, thanks.
[2:02:59] Thank you David. Thanks for your, thank you. Thanks.
[2:03:01] Thanks for coming. Thanks David. Okay, if we're done,
[2:03:04] I'll let the take a motion to go into, into non-public
[2:03:06] and we are gonna invite Owen into our non-public
[2:03:09] 'cause he's gonna man the PowerPoint presentation.
[2:03:12] Beth, do you wanna join or do you wanna leave? I can join.
[2:03:18] Okay. So we're gonna have to, after,
[2:03:20] after we vote one,
[2:03:21] then we're gonna have to vote two more times.
[2:03:23] Move, move the vote, move
[2:03:25] to go into non-public session per RSA 91, A three.
[2:03:28] Section two for the purpose of land acquisition.
[2:03:32] Second. So we have a first on the floor
[2:03:35] to go into nonpublic.
[2:03:36] A second. We need a roll call starting to my right?
[2:03:40] Yes, yes, yes, yes,
[2:03:43] yes, yes. The chair votes. Yes.
[2:03:48] And I move to invite Beth Carn Owen
[2:03:50] prevention into the non-public.
[2:03:53] Is there a second? Second first and a second.
[2:03:55] Roll call vote. Starting to my right?
[2:03:57] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
[2:04:02] That's unanimous. Okay.
[2:04:03] So we are going in
[2:04:04] and nonpublic once we get a thumbs up from
[2:04:07] dairy cam, almost a thumbs up.
[2:04:13] Is that a thought.