1 00:00:06,105 --> 00:00:06,995 Good evening everyone. 2 00:00:06,995 --> 00:00:08,075 Welcome to the Tuesday, 3 00:00:08,265 --> 00:00:10,835 June 30th, 2026 Town Council meeting. 4 00:00:11,685 --> 00:00:13,435 We're coming to you tonight from the first Parish 5 00:00:13,435 --> 00:00:15,515 Congregational Church here in East Area. 6 00:00:17,345 --> 00:00:22,295 Just quickly, I would like to, we'll stand 7 00:00:22,295 --> 00:00:23,495 to do a pledge Allegiance First. 8 00:00:23,575 --> 00:00:26,815 First, council Neeley, would you lead us, please? 9 00:00:27,975 --> 00:00:31,855 I put given to the of the United States of America 10 00:00:32,325 --> 00:00:34,695 because you following stands, 11 00:00:35,235 --> 00:00:38,655 one nation under God in this all with liberty 12 00:00:38,955 --> 00:00:40,135 and Justices for all. 13 00:00:46,965 --> 00:00:48,415 Just since we're in a different 14 00:00:48,415 --> 00:00:49,695 space this evening as well. 15 00:00:50,625 --> 00:00:53,495 Exits are straight back this way if we need to 16 00:00:53,795 --> 00:00:55,175 or right behind me. 17 00:00:55,275 --> 00:00:56,335 Out through the front here. 18 00:00:56,795 --> 00:00:58,575 And please silence all cell phones. 19 00:01:00,505 --> 00:01:03,975 Quick roll call. Councilor Mills here. 20 00:01:04,275 --> 00:01:06,375 Oh, you're all allowed to order tonight. Councilor Webb? 21 00:01:06,765 --> 00:01:10,015 Yeah. Present. Councilor Flood. Present. 22 00:01:10,125 --> 00:01:13,375 Councilor Healy Here. Councillor Foot. Good evening. 23 00:01:13,955 --> 00:01:15,295 And good evening from the chair 24 00:01:16,195 --> 00:01:19,495 and also evening to town Clerk, Ms. Booker 25 00:01:19,635 --> 00:01:21,215 and administrator Mike Goer. 26 00:01:21,675 --> 00:01:23,495 And I would like to introduce 27 00:01:24,315 --> 00:01:26,735 and thank you for hosting us Pastor Burnett. 28 00:01:26,985 --> 00:01:29,015 Thank you very much. We're very happy to have him all. 29 00:01:29,015 --> 00:01:30,815 Thank you for joining. Thank you very much. 30 00:01:31,605 --> 00:01:33,975 Alright, so we are here this evening. 31 00:01:35,955 --> 00:01:37,215 We do have our consent agenda 32 00:01:37,315 --> 00:01:40,055 and then we will get into our goal setting 33 00:01:40,055 --> 00:01:41,095 session for this evening. 34 00:01:44,155 --> 00:01:47,695 So for our consent agenda, we have in 26 61 35 00:01:48,035 --> 00:01:51,295 to approve the minutes from the June 2nd, 2026 meeting. 36 00:01:53,955 --> 00:01:55,375 Is there a motion to approve? So moved. 37 00:01:55,835 --> 00:01:58,695 Second. All right. A motion by Councilor Mills. 38 00:01:58,695 --> 00:01:59,895 Second by Councilor Webb 39 00:01:59,895 --> 00:02:02,175 to approve the consent agenda on the motion. 40 00:02:02,175 --> 00:02:05,735 Councilor Mills? Yes. Councilor Webb. Yes. Councilor Flood. 41 00:02:05,795 --> 00:02:08,335 Yes. Councilor Healy. Yes. Councilor Foote. Yes. 42 00:02:08,395 --> 00:02:11,015 And chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. Six zero. 43 00:02:11,845 --> 00:02:14,455 Alright, to get into our goal setting session, 44 00:02:16,555 --> 00:02:18,295 we had, some of us have sent in goals, 45 00:02:18,365 --> 00:02:20,015 some have some tonight we can discuss. 46 00:02:20,015 --> 00:02:21,975 So this is more of just a discussion 47 00:02:24,075 --> 00:02:27,815 and then a administrator kind of put those together for us 48 00:02:27,815 --> 00:02:29,975 to kind of have a final, final run 49 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:32,615 through at our meeting on the seventh. 50 00:02:32,745 --> 00:02:34,255 Right? That's the next disc. 51 00:02:35,515 --> 00:02:37,375 Did you wanna introduce things for us? 52 00:02:37,955 --> 00:02:38,975 Yes. Great. So thanks. 53 00:02:40,115 --> 00:02:42,735 One of the things that I wanted to set the process up just 54 00:02:42,735 --> 00:02:46,535 for the public and for obviously the council last year, 55 00:02:46,675 --> 00:02:48,375 the process was a little different in that 56 00:02:48,895 --> 00:02:50,655 each counselor was given an opportunity 57 00:02:50,715 --> 00:02:53,055 to identify their five top goals. 58 00:02:53,125 --> 00:02:55,895 They were compiled into a single list 59 00:02:56,515 --> 00:02:59,725 and that list for fiscal 28 was distributed 60 00:02:59,725 --> 00:03:00,885 amongst all the council. 61 00:03:01,885 --> 00:03:06,445 I had put within the packet the update on the progress 62 00:03:06,445 --> 00:03:07,485 of those go goals. 63 00:03:07,555 --> 00:03:10,525 Many of those have either been completed or, 64 00:03:10,585 --> 00:03:12,725 or well along the way of completed. 65 00:03:12,725 --> 00:03:15,285 There are some that are just ongoing goals. 66 00:03:15,865 --> 00:03:19,805 But I think tonight what I'd be looking to do is talk about 67 00:03:19,805 --> 00:03:22,005 where we're going into fiscal 27. 68 00:03:22,505 --> 00:03:24,725 So maybe the, the way to kick this off is 69 00:03:24,725 --> 00:03:27,885 for each individual counselor to provide their goals. 70 00:03:28,645 --> 00:03:31,405 I did also put within a pack the packet, a list 71 00:03:31,465 --> 00:03:33,845 of some priorities that I see town-wide 72 00:03:33,845 --> 00:03:36,205 that I've taken in from some of the department heads 73 00:03:36,205 --> 00:03:37,365 and some of our own thoughts. 74 00:03:37,365 --> 00:03:39,925 That list is about 43 items long. 75 00:03:40,225 --> 00:03:41,325 My guess is this evening 76 00:03:41,875 --> 00:03:45,365 that your individual goals will probably touch, if not all 77 00:03:45,365 --> 00:03:46,765 of those, many of those. 78 00:03:47,025 --> 00:03:50,005 And then the goal would be, coming out of this, I'd like 79 00:03:50,005 --> 00:03:52,885 to publish either a top 10 list to top 15 list. 80 00:03:52,945 --> 00:03:54,765 You can tell me how you wanna script that. 81 00:03:55,065 --> 00:03:58,645 But on July 7th, I'd like to push that list back out 82 00:03:58,705 --> 00:04:02,645 to the public, put it up onto a PowerPoint presentation 83 00:04:02,645 --> 00:04:05,285 briefly during our regular town council meeting. 84 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:07,645 And then those will be the goals that I'll push out 85 00:04:07,705 --> 00:04:09,045 to each one of the departments. 86 00:04:09,425 --> 00:04:11,925 And we'll keep moving on that front. 87 00:04:12,105 --> 00:04:13,445 So I think that with that 88 00:04:13,445 --> 00:04:15,125 as an introduction, I'll pass it back to the chair. 89 00:04:15,415 --> 00:04:16,885 Great. Thank you. Yeah, 90 00:04:16,885 --> 00:04:19,365 and I think I like the idea of us kind of discussing 91 00:04:19,365 --> 00:04:21,085 what we all came to the table with tonight 92 00:04:21,225 --> 00:04:24,045 and then we can kind of see how it plays out, 93 00:04:24,045 --> 00:04:25,885 whether we narrow it down and then rank 94 00:04:25,905 --> 00:04:28,565 or whether we stick with this list and we rank from there. 95 00:04:28,565 --> 00:04:30,965 We can kind of see how the conversation goes, if 96 00:04:30,965 --> 00:04:32,525 that's works for everybody. 97 00:04:33,265 --> 00:04:36,565 All right. So I think we can just start with kind of talking 98 00:04:36,565 --> 00:04:40,285 through what each of us had for goals and just kinda why. 99 00:04:40,285 --> 00:04:42,205 And if there's questions, things like that, 100 00:04:42,385 --> 00:04:43,605 we can just go around the table. 101 00:04:43,745 --> 00:04:45,325 So Council mill, would you like to start? 102 00:04:45,535 --> 00:04:47,125 Thank you. Well, I'll start off with one 103 00:04:47,125 --> 00:04:50,685 of my top ones was exit four a gateway development. 104 00:04:51,085 --> 00:04:55,205 I think it's, it's a huge business opportunity for the town 105 00:04:55,945 --> 00:04:59,565 and it's, as it gets closer, we need to find out, we need 106 00:04:59,565 --> 00:05:02,125 to make sure once again that we're not, we don't have 107 00:05:02,515 --> 00:05:04,685 with no offense to, we don't have enough abundance 108 00:05:04,705 --> 00:05:08,845 of pizza parlors and paras there and, 109 00:05:09,025 --> 00:05:11,685 and in Counselor Chase's absence, I'd like 110 00:05:11,685 --> 00:05:14,005 to deliver a couple of his, 'cause him, his 111 00:05:14,005 --> 00:05:16,805 and I were, were very similarly his is 112 00:05:16,805 --> 00:05:18,645 to continue the downtown projects 113 00:05:18,665 --> 00:05:23,005 and revitalization Route 28 114 00:05:23,005 --> 00:05:26,515 infrastructure improvements, going 115 00:05:26,515 --> 00:05:28,875 to evaluate the housing needs in town 116 00:05:29,135 --> 00:05:32,435 and start planning to meet the needs and along with 117 00:05:32,435 --> 00:05:34,555 after housing needs the town facility needs 118 00:05:35,615 --> 00:05:39,395 and continuing to plan for the waste and waste water 119 00:05:39,415 --> 00:05:42,955 and water expansion to support for the growth in 120 00:05:42,955 --> 00:05:44,275 that such North Town Valley. 121 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:49,235 And I could certainly recite more, 122 00:05:49,235 --> 00:05:50,595 but I'm sure they're all duplicates. 123 00:05:50,595 --> 00:05:54,755 And my, my only other one was I'd like to reexamine this 124 00:05:54,755 --> 00:05:56,875 and I know all the, all the NAS against it, 125 00:05:57,305 --> 00:06:00,805 but I'd like to reexamine who, who referenc 126 00:06:01,915 --> 00:06:05,595 that this and that's both my 127 00:06:05,735 --> 00:06:07,235 and counselor Chase's. 128 00:06:09,325 --> 00:06:10,805 I think several of us have that one in there. 129 00:06:12,465 --> 00:06:14,395 Alright, any questions 130 00:06:14,575 --> 00:06:16,355 or anything we wanna talk about on those 131 00:06:16,455 --> 00:06:17,795 or do you wanna just continue around? 132 00:06:19,685 --> 00:06:22,205 I think with the veterans credits we could follow the same 133 00:06:22,205 --> 00:06:26,605 formula that we did last, you prior two years to look at 134 00:06:29,065 --> 00:06:31,525 the excess, I don't wanna say it's necessarily excess 135 00:06:31,525 --> 00:06:34,285 revenues, but the excess funds between the assessment 136 00:06:34,905 --> 00:06:36,885 period ending in December 137 00:06:37,785 --> 00:06:39,845 and the end of the fiscal year in January. 138 00:06:41,475 --> 00:06:45,325 Yeah. One of the things that we could look at too is one 139 00:06:45,325 --> 00:06:47,605 of the, the goals I think is looking at the use 140 00:06:47,665 --> 00:06:49,285 of the undesignated fund balance. 141 00:06:50,415 --> 00:06:53,765 There is an opportunity for the council to look at 142 00:06:54,715 --> 00:06:57,325 some goals there in terms of the CBA trust. 143 00:06:57,555 --> 00:06:59,565 Obviously veterans credits are on the table 144 00:06:59,665 --> 00:07:02,365 and I've got a list that I can share on the seventh 145 00:07:02,385 --> 00:07:05,925 of some preliminary options for UFV utilization 146 00:07:06,105 --> 00:07:07,565 and vets credits could fall in 147 00:07:07,565 --> 00:07:09,445 that category if the council sees that. 148 00:07:11,225 --> 00:07:13,325 Yes. I, I went to the VFW 149 00:07:13,545 --> 00:07:17,725 and I got a, an actual list of all the found around us. 150 00:07:17,795 --> 00:07:19,605 It's, it's two years old now, 151 00:07:20,005 --> 00:07:21,765 but it was the latest one they had of 152 00:07:22,355 --> 00:07:23,885 what everybody else was doing. 153 00:07:23,945 --> 00:07:26,405 And although it's got nothing to do with what we do, 154 00:07:26,845 --> 00:07:31,605 would've just give us a, a general direction what, 155 00:07:31,605 --> 00:07:33,045 what this court is for Veterans. 156 00:07:35,025 --> 00:07:37,885 Yes, council. Thank you Madam Chair. To that point. 157 00:07:37,945 --> 00:07:40,965 So I agree with all that, that the veterans credits, 158 00:07:40,965 --> 00:07:42,005 we need to reexamine that. 159 00:07:42,765 --> 00:07:43,805 Although we did just recently, 160 00:07:43,965 --> 00:07:45,125 a couple years ago we increased that. 161 00:07:45,185 --> 00:07:49,245 But along with that, I think we really look the senior 162 00:07:50,345 --> 00:07:53,125 as well because let's face it, cost 163 00:07:53,125 --> 00:07:54,845 of living is going up dramatically 164 00:07:54,945 --> 00:07:57,525 and it's, it's going above the, the cost 165 00:07:58,115 --> 00:07:59,725 that they're receiving for their inflation. 166 00:07:59,745 --> 00:08:01,205 The Medicare or any kind of 167 00:08:02,005 --> 00:08:03,805 benefits they may get isn't keeping up 168 00:08:03,805 --> 00:08:05,445 with the inflation rate that we currently 169 00:08:05,625 --> 00:08:06,645 are experiencing right now. 170 00:08:07,345 --> 00:08:10,925 So I I, I fear that a lot of the senior residents, some 171 00:08:10,925 --> 00:08:13,805 of 'em lifelong residents, again pushed out, forced out 172 00:08:13,805 --> 00:08:16,045 with nowhere to go and you know, 173 00:08:17,005 --> 00:08:19,445 a lot are living minimalistic lifestyles right now. 174 00:08:19,585 --> 00:08:22,325 You know, by that I mean like their, their food challenged, 175 00:08:22,395 --> 00:08:23,845 whatnot and you know, 176 00:08:24,195 --> 00:08:26,805 whether it be health insurance issues and things like that. 177 00:08:26,905 --> 00:08:29,165 So I think we really need to examine 178 00:08:29,195 --> 00:08:31,405 that a lot deeper this year. 179 00:08:32,645 --> 00:08:33,685 I know we have a lot of constraints, 180 00:08:33,705 --> 00:08:35,565 but what we can do to be as transparent 181 00:08:35,665 --> 00:08:38,165 and forthcoming with that I think would be helpful. 182 00:08:38,595 --> 00:08:39,595 Yeah, thank you. 183 00:08:41,555 --> 00:08:42,605 Yeah, Charleston one, 184 00:08:43,345 --> 00:08:46,605 So the veteran's credit was also on my list 185 00:08:47,105 --> 00:08:51,445 and looking back at the, the increase in the last increase 186 00:08:51,515 --> 00:08:54,205 that the town of Derry did, I believe was in 2023 187 00:08:54,665 --> 00:08:56,085 to the current five 50. 188 00:08:56,945 --> 00:08:59,485 I'd be in favor, you know, once we get close 189 00:08:59,485 --> 00:09:03,565 to the budget time potentially increasing in another $50 190 00:09:03,815 --> 00:09:06,365 maybe this upcoming year. 191 00:09:07,985 --> 00:09:11,525 And I have the same type of lists that counselor Mill has 192 00:09:11,555 --> 00:09:13,085 with the surrounding towns. 193 00:09:13,825 --> 00:09:14,885 And the majority 194 00:09:15,115 --> 00:09:17,365 besides Auburn are all at 195 00:09:18,165 --> 00:09:19,765 surrounding dairy are all at seven 50. 196 00:09:19,985 --> 00:09:23,245 So Auburn, the last I checked was at 500 197 00:09:24,745 --> 00:09:26,525 but dairies near the, near the bottom 198 00:09:27,165 --> 00:09:29,565 with the amount that we give out. Yep. 199 00:09:29,715 --> 00:09:32,395 I think we can, we, we've gone to the, I'm always in favor 200 00:09:32,415 --> 00:09:35,275 of a veterans have veterans credit increase. 201 00:09:35,395 --> 00:09:37,995 I think that before we start to talk specific numbers, 202 00:09:38,095 --> 00:09:39,875 we need to look at what our numbers are. 203 00:09:40,575 --> 00:09:43,195 So I think, I think we all in some way, shape 204 00:09:43,195 --> 00:09:45,955 or form have the have this or most of us have this on there 205 00:09:46,295 --> 00:09:48,195 and I also, I have veterans and elderly. 206 00:09:48,355 --> 00:09:52,635 I think we have to look at both to evaluate where we're at, 207 00:09:52,635 --> 00:09:55,875 where we compare to others, what we have for, for money 208 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:57,835 to be able into it and then can definitely talk. 209 00:09:57,835 --> 00:10:01,395 So I think that, so no, that one goes on the list for me. 210 00:10:01,865 --> 00:10:04,395 Yeah, we can agree on that one. Yep. 211 00:10:05,755 --> 00:10:07,395 Excellent. Oh sorry, 212 00:10:07,945 --> 00:10:09,115 Just to Charlie's point, 213 00:10:09,335 --> 00:10:12,075 and I wasn't part of the last discussion of this, 214 00:10:12,215 --> 00:10:15,515 but the previous year in 23 I was, that's where I learned, 215 00:10:15,545 --> 00:10:18,515 like Charlie said, you know, the veterans were definitely 216 00:10:18,515 --> 00:10:20,875 behind and it had been a long time since they had gotten 217 00:10:21,115 --> 00:10:23,315 involved and they need to be been brought to my attention 218 00:10:23,825 --> 00:10:27,795 that the elderly and there's another group and I thought, 219 00:10:28,135 --> 00:10:30,155 and I know we can't handcuff 220 00:10:31,015 --> 00:10:33,235 the next con we can't just make a set of rules 221 00:10:33,235 --> 00:10:35,835 that they increase a little bit every year 222 00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:38,275 or something to try to keep 'em or play catch up. 223 00:10:38,415 --> 00:10:41,435 But that would be one of my goals is to sit down and, 224 00:10:41,435 --> 00:10:45,315 and try to find out which group was given a bump last 225 00:10:45,495 --> 00:10:47,955 and who's due this time 226 00:10:48,055 --> 00:10:51,915 and try to, you know, you don't wanna spread so thin 227 00:10:51,915 --> 00:10:53,475 that we're really not helping anyone, 228 00:10:53,615 --> 00:10:57,795 but we need to make sure that, you know, like I said, it's, 229 00:10:58,175 --> 00:11:01,715 I'm not veterans of first on the list or should be or 230 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:03,795 or whatnot, but we gotta make sure 231 00:11:03,795 --> 00:11:06,195 that there were other groups that are 232 00:11:06,995 --> 00:11:08,275 dropping too far behind them. 233 00:11:08,275 --> 00:11:09,275 Right. You know? 234 00:11:10,705 --> 00:11:12,275 Okay. And to that point, and, 235 00:11:12,275 --> 00:11:13,795 and not to get into the weed, but just 236 00:11:13,795 --> 00:11:16,195 for full transparency, when, 237 00:11:16,225 --> 00:11:18,635 when those groups are given these exemptions 238 00:11:18,655 --> 00:11:22,235 or these special credits 239 00:11:22,255 --> 00:11:26,475 or stances, that doesn't mean that they get it. 240 00:11:26,505 --> 00:11:27,875 This comes outta nowhere that 241 00:11:27,985 --> 00:11:29,395 that has shifted to everybody else. 242 00:11:29,455 --> 00:11:31,875 So I just want fully transparent lot people watching home 243 00:11:31,875 --> 00:11:33,755 that we, we fully acknowledge 244 00:11:33,755 --> 00:11:37,635 and understand that, that that cost just getting shifted to, 245 00:11:37,695 --> 00:11:38,915 to other taxpayers. 246 00:11:38,935 --> 00:11:40,395 So just to full transparency 247 00:11:40,535 --> 00:11:42,435 but you know, we can get into the weeds 248 00:11:42,435 --> 00:11:43,515 of that as we get closer to it. 249 00:11:43,515 --> 00:11:47,035 But, and the, that was the other challenge with veterans is 250 00:11:47,455 --> 00:11:48,915 that's a ever changing delta. 251 00:11:49,215 --> 00:11:52,075 The numbers changed, you know, pretty, pretty regularly, 252 00:11:52,135 --> 00:11:53,805 you know year to year 253 00:11:53,905 --> 00:11:57,605 and when you know these, even in the year some die off, 254 00:11:57,605 --> 00:11:59,005 some come out some are a hundred percent 255 00:11:59,005 --> 00:12:00,045 some not a hundred percent. 256 00:12:00,625 --> 00:12:03,045 So again just who for thought, but thank you. 257 00:12:04,675 --> 00:12:07,165 Alright, thank you Councilor 258 00:12:07,165 --> 00:12:11,605 Lewis Mississippi Council. We love that 259 00:12:11,635 --> 00:12:12,635 Councilor. 260 00:12:14,865 --> 00:12:17,205 We were all, we were still discussing there. I was 261 00:12:17,205 --> 00:12:18,485 Just gonna over, I see. 262 00:12:19,265 --> 00:12:23,365 So I mine are votes. Yeah. All 263 00:12:23,615 --> 00:12:25,165 Let's, we got, we've got one time. 264 00:12:26,505 --> 00:12:26,725 So 265 00:12:31,515 --> 00:12:33,695 it is all from my exhibit fire off attorney. 266 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:35,415 I'm sorry. It's all good. 267 00:12:35,445 --> 00:12:37,775 Develop a labor management leadership move 268 00:12:37,775 --> 00:12:40,375 to evaluate healthcare options with the goal to reduce costs 269 00:12:40,375 --> 00:12:42,615 and reduce rate by health insurance increases. 270 00:12:43,875 --> 00:12:45,935 All this committee should evaluate at a minimum 271 00:12:46,235 --> 00:12:49,095 self-insurance with a third party manager in stock loss 272 00:12:49,505 --> 00:12:50,735 slash umbrella insurance 273 00:12:51,395 --> 00:12:54,495 of different health insurance vendors, insurance 274 00:12:54,565 --> 00:12:56,255 outside the health insurance trust 275 00:12:56,995 --> 00:12:58,975 and for making no changes. 276 00:12:59,855 --> 00:13:02,015 A final report should be completed and implemented 277 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:05,935 before the next round of CDA negotiations, 278 00:13:05,935 --> 00:13:07,335 which is roughly two years. 279 00:13:07,715 --> 00:13:10,695 And that would be the police patrol employee supervisors. 280 00:13:11,295 --> 00:13:15,375 I think this is important because health insurance is the 281 00:13:15,375 --> 00:13:19,975 second, the largest bill that the town pays. 282 00:13:19,975 --> 00:13:21,535 The largest being of course wages 283 00:13:22,795 --> 00:13:26,695 and I think we do with dis service both to our employees 284 00:13:27,435 --> 00:13:30,335 and to the taxpayers by not taking hard control issues. 285 00:13:31,635 --> 00:13:34,735 The next one is in regards to a police station, 286 00:13:34,735 --> 00:13:38,175 which is secure land and financing by fiscal year 2029 287 00:13:38,795 --> 00:13:41,575 and Star Construction by fiscal year 2031. 288 00:13:42,335 --> 00:13:45,055 I know it's a process, I know that we have bond issues 289 00:13:45,075 --> 00:13:48,055 and stuff like that that we have think of. 290 00:13:48,195 --> 00:13:52,095 But just looking at the timeline that the fire station took 291 00:13:53,395 --> 00:13:57,415 and that was actually started discussion seriously in 2016 292 00:13:57,435 --> 00:14:01,575 2017 through incrementally funded 293 00:14:01,645 --> 00:14:03,655 through grants, opioid funds 294 00:14:03,715 --> 00:14:05,735 and operational budget of part-time police, 295 00:14:05,915 --> 00:14:07,815 social worker partition that 296 00:14:07,835 --> 00:14:10,655 by fiscal year 31 is a full-time position 297 00:14:10,655 --> 00:14:12,535 and is fully funded in the operation budget. 298 00:14:14,005 --> 00:14:16,215 I've talked to several other police officers about this. 299 00:14:16,255 --> 00:14:17,535 I think this is important things 300 00:14:17,535 --> 00:14:21,215 because unfortunately many other interactions are 301 00:14:21,215 --> 00:14:23,655 with people with either mental health issues 302 00:14:24,395 --> 00:14:28,615 or there is situ, you know, 303 00:14:28,935 --> 00:14:32,455 domestic situations that are impacting 304 00:14:33,075 --> 00:14:34,215 either their behavior 305 00:14:34,435 --> 00:14:36,895 or we're contributing them to being a victim. 306 00:14:37,985 --> 00:14:41,845 And across the country we're finding that by 307 00:14:42,585 --> 00:14:46,005 adding a social work component to law enforcement has proven 308 00:14:46,105 --> 00:14:47,125 to be very effective. 309 00:14:48,425 --> 00:14:51,805 But like any full-time position, we can't just say poof, 310 00:14:52,665 --> 00:14:54,965 we have to increment the finance over a period 311 00:14:54,965 --> 00:14:59,325 of time longer to develop a town line recruitment in hiring 312 00:14:59,385 --> 00:15:01,045 and marketing plan that discussed this 313 00:15:01,065 --> 00:15:02,485 during our budget sessions. 314 00:15:02,975 --> 00:15:06,205 While vacancies equate to increase overtime spending, 315 00:15:06,205 --> 00:15:07,725 which further equates to US funds 316 00:15:07,785 --> 00:15:09,765 and personnel available for projects 317 00:15:09,765 --> 00:15:11,405 or other operational needs 318 00:15:11,405 --> 00:15:12,805 and constraints, growth and develop. 319 00:15:13,595 --> 00:15:15,445 Furthermore, vacancies can directly 320 00:15:15,505 --> 00:15:16,845 impact employee retention. 321 00:15:17,615 --> 00:15:19,845 Towns should explore targeted marketing. 322 00:15:19,845 --> 00:15:23,975 Look at specific geographic areas often whose access 323 00:15:23,975 --> 00:15:26,735 to public education's lessons cost of living is higher and 324 00:15:26,735 --> 00:15:28,935 or whose quality of life is less than 325 00:15:28,935 --> 00:15:30,135 that available in New Hampshire. 326 00:15:33,095 --> 00:15:37,645 Again that number four, one and four are looking right now. 327 00:15:37,705 --> 00:15:39,245 Our personal costs are skewed. 328 00:15:39,675 --> 00:15:43,765 Some departments are between 94 and 97% of personnel costs. 329 00:15:44,305 --> 00:15:47,125 And that really does hamper the ability to grow in 330 00:15:47,125 --> 00:15:50,325 that programs to us. 331 00:15:51,585 --> 00:15:54,485 And you know, even we can incrementally make changes. 332 00:15:55,285 --> 00:15:58,885 It took a long time for us to get onto to these ratios. 333 00:16:01,385 --> 00:16:05,765 My last, even though I came up with six, my last rule is 334 00:16:06,335 --> 00:16:08,645 route code and ordinance development planning 335 00:16:08,665 --> 00:16:10,845 and approval processes increase the availability 336 00:16:11,305 --> 00:16:13,445 of one in two family workforce housing units. 337 00:16:13,945 --> 00:16:16,765 For example, this could specifically target any new 338 00:16:16,765 --> 00:16:19,045 multi-family apartment developments of over 20 units 339 00:16:19,545 --> 00:16:23,525 and require one in 25% to be made available 340 00:16:23,825 --> 00:16:24,885 as workforce housing. 341 00:16:25,845 --> 00:16:27,765 Part of that would also be to make certain 342 00:16:27,765 --> 00:16:30,205 that we keep on our radar the redevelopment 343 00:16:30,225 --> 00:16:34,445 of the Fisher Prep site, which is 19 LI believe. 344 00:16:34,445 --> 00:16:37,765 Correct. I know that project has sort 345 00:16:37,765 --> 00:16:39,365 of seems like it's sort of stalled 346 00:16:39,365 --> 00:16:42,845 because hazardous waste issues. 347 00:16:43,385 --> 00:16:46,485 But that was being considered specifically 348 00:16:46,585 --> 00:16:48,565 as a workforce housing development. 349 00:16:49,505 --> 00:16:52,445 And my number six goal just sort of goes with 350 00:16:52,445 --> 00:16:53,725 what everybody else has been saying. 351 00:16:54,305 --> 00:16:57,285 And that is just traffic manage exit four incident traffic 352 00:16:57,285 --> 00:17:01,725 management plans in that protects the residential areas 353 00:17:01,755 --> 00:17:03,085 that be impacted by Bill. 354 00:17:03,975 --> 00:17:04,975 Thank you for your time. 355 00:17:06,305 --> 00:17:07,685 Any questions about, 356 00:17:09,345 --> 00:17:10,685 I'm just glad I got to go first 357 00:17:10,715 --> 00:17:13,085 because I feel sorry for everybody. 358 00:17:13,085 --> 00:17:14,805 Also has to follow Councilor Webb 359 00:17:14,805 --> 00:17:17,205 because that, that is very comprehensive 360 00:17:17,345 --> 00:17:18,365 and very well thought. 361 00:17:18,965 --> 00:17:19,965 I have no question. Congratulations. 362 00:17:20,615 --> 00:17:25,525 Everything so well I'm reserving your 363 00:17:25,525 --> 00:17:28,725 rights to the last, the council of what chairman, 364 00:17:30,345 --> 00:17:31,605 I'm basically on board with 365 00:17:31,635 --> 00:17:34,285 what everyone has been having to their list. 366 00:17:34,365 --> 00:17:37,685 I don't need to add mine pretty much in check. 367 00:17:37,805 --> 00:17:41,245 I want to make sure that the police department is, 368 00:17:41,705 --> 00:17:43,645 we know they're gonna need a new building. 369 00:17:44,735 --> 00:17:47,525 Let's try to be as proactive as we can. 370 00:17:47,705 --> 00:17:51,085 So we're not, I mean the fire station ended up costing the 371 00:17:51,085 --> 00:17:52,245 time more than it should have 372 00:17:52,245 --> 00:17:54,485 because it was put off longer than it should have. 373 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:58,005 It's no one's fault that they, you can't predict it. 374 00:17:58,005 --> 00:17:59,525 It's gonna happen now, you know, 375 00:18:00,105 --> 00:18:03,685 but had it been built back in 20 15, 20 16, 20 17, 376 00:18:04,425 --> 00:18:05,565 it would've been better. 377 00:18:05,725 --> 00:18:08,285 I just, if it could be avoided with the police station, 378 00:18:08,385 --> 00:18:10,045 not ready to build it today or tomorrow, 379 00:18:11,425 --> 00:18:16,245 but we should just make sure that everyone, you know, it, 380 00:18:16,355 --> 00:18:17,445 it's on the radar and, 381 00:18:17,545 --> 00:18:19,005 and it's just chipped away at 382 00:18:19,025 --> 00:18:20,605 so when the time comes, we're ready. 383 00:18:22,005 --> 00:18:24,885 And that part of that would be making sure we maximize foray 384 00:18:27,305 --> 00:18:29,685 that's beyond me and my scope of knowledge. 385 00:18:29,825 --> 00:18:33,845 But I, we need to make sure that, you know, I've been here 386 00:18:33,845 --> 00:18:37,445 for 35 years and Gary's generally reacting to growth. 387 00:18:37,795 --> 00:18:39,805 It'd be nice to be proactive to it 388 00:18:43,145 --> 00:18:48,125 and just, I know and I know it's being done. 389 00:18:49,145 --> 00:18:50,365 Try to make sure that the town 390 00:18:50,365 --> 00:18:53,405 and the school board work better together 391 00:18:53,705 --> 00:18:57,045 and trying to, they have needs, we have needs, 392 00:18:58,475 --> 00:19:01,265 we're the same and I know it's being done. 393 00:19:01,375 --> 00:19:04,265 That just we, you know, just kind of putting 394 00:19:04,265 --> 00:19:06,105 that out there again where we need to make sure 395 00:19:06,815 --> 00:19:07,825 that we work together. 396 00:19:08,205 --> 00:19:11,785 So both, you know, neither one of us get that. Right. 397 00:19:13,275 --> 00:19:15,735 That's, I wanted to add on, I didn't specifically put 398 00:19:15,735 --> 00:19:17,335 that on here but I kind of, I kind of 399 00:19:17,355 --> 00:19:20,255 as my last sentence on my email had said I had some 400 00:19:20,255 --> 00:19:21,375 of my previous goals 401 00:19:21,375 --> 00:19:23,175 and things that I would've put on her in the process 402 00:19:23,275 --> 00:19:25,135 and that's, I think we do need to continue 403 00:19:25,245 --> 00:19:26,455 that relationship, 404 00:19:27,985 --> 00:19:30,295 which like plug off topic we have planning our 405 00:19:30,295 --> 00:19:31,455 next meeting with the board. 406 00:19:32,735 --> 00:19:33,815 I said I moved being done. 407 00:19:34,365 --> 00:19:36,495 Yeah, it's good to, and I'm not saying no one's going do it. 408 00:19:37,235 --> 00:19:40,455 We need a fire station. Keep talking all the school or or 409 00:19:40,715 --> 00:19:42,015 or remodeling. 410 00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:46,255 And so you need to, you need to space those up so it's not 411 00:19:46,255 --> 00:19:47,495 as hard of a head. 412 00:19:47,755 --> 00:19:51,935 I'd rather do a little every year than nothing for two years 413 00:19:52,075 --> 00:19:53,895 or three years and then get the big bill. 414 00:19:54,435 --> 00:19:57,175 So if we can, every year 415 00:20:02,005 --> 00:20:04,205 I believe in infrastructure we get a build from the 416 00:20:04,205 --> 00:20:07,965 inside cost and it hurts but we've neglected it to all 417 00:20:12,285 --> 00:20:13,285 Questions. 418 00:20:16,635 --> 00:20:19,885 Okay. So the first on my list was the veteran's credit 419 00:20:20,285 --> 00:20:22,365 increase, which we already talked about. 420 00:20:23,115 --> 00:20:25,445 Next was review of potential charter amendments. 421 00:20:25,605 --> 00:20:26,845 I just have that on here 422 00:20:26,865 --> 00:20:28,285 so we all kinda look at the charter, 423 00:20:28,385 --> 00:20:30,405 see if there's anything in there that's maybe outdated 424 00:20:31,315 --> 00:20:33,205 that potentially could be changed. 425 00:20:34,245 --> 00:20:36,765 Next is policy on the appointment of town counselor. 426 00:20:37,465 --> 00:20:40,685 And with this one being someone 427 00:20:40,715 --> 00:20:42,925 that applied for a vacancy. 428 00:20:43,505 --> 00:20:45,965 The only difference, the only change I would look 429 00:20:45,965 --> 00:20:50,485 to see would be giving each person from the public a time 430 00:20:50,585 --> 00:20:53,485 to speak before a decision's made. 431 00:20:53,985 --> 00:20:57,005 So I'd be interested in drafting a policy 432 00:20:57,185 --> 00:20:58,525 for the council's review or, 433 00:20:58,545 --> 00:21:00,165 or working with a few other counselors. 434 00:21:00,185 --> 00:21:01,965 But I'd like to see, you know, we had, 435 00:21:02,285 --> 00:21:04,325 I think the second time seven people apply 436 00:21:05,185 --> 00:21:07,165 and just giving them maybe three minutes 437 00:21:07,305 --> 00:21:08,965 to just quickly run down 438 00:21:10,745 --> 00:21:12,965 why they think they're a good candidate for the position 439 00:21:13,425 --> 00:21:15,325 and then you'll have the council discuss it. 440 00:21:15,345 --> 00:21:17,245 So nothing major on that. 441 00:21:17,305 --> 00:21:20,565 But I think when you have people apply a lot 442 00:21:20,565 --> 00:21:21,645 of 'em were there in the room 443 00:21:22,265 --> 00:21:25,765 and give them the opportunity just to, to say why they, 444 00:21:25,915 --> 00:21:27,765 they think they're a good fit for the position. 445 00:21:29,265 --> 00:21:31,605 The next one was non-represented employees 446 00:21:31,605 --> 00:21:32,645 compensation study. 447 00:21:35,275 --> 00:21:39,205 This fiscal, I'd like to see an outside company 448 00:21:40,355 --> 00:21:44,845 come in in study our non rep to see 449 00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:47,965 how they fall into the, the pay scale. 450 00:21:48,725 --> 00:21:50,685 I know we've had some, you know, 451 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:54,685 I believe it's probably more internal, you know, phone calls 452 00:21:54,705 --> 00:21:58,445 to other communities to kinda get the pay of the non rep. 453 00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:03,925 But a full on study goes into more detail specific functions 454 00:22:03,925 --> 00:22:07,685 of their job and gives more of an accurate pay scale. 455 00:22:10,945 --> 00:22:14,445 It, you know, last week we got a, a memo regarding some 456 00:22:14,785 --> 00:22:17,165 of the non represented employees 457 00:22:18,825 --> 00:22:22,525 and you know, I I don't think it's entirely fair 458 00:22:22,665 --> 00:22:24,205 to single out a few 459 00:22:25,185 --> 00:22:29,855 and only give them an increase, 460 00:22:29,855 --> 00:22:31,655 especially after we just passed the budget. 461 00:22:32,275 --> 00:22:34,575 So I'm in favor of the increase overall 462 00:22:35,175 --> 00:22:36,415 I think there deserved. 463 00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:40,095 But I think there could be a better way to, to do this 464 00:22:40,155 --> 00:22:41,335 so it's more equitable 465 00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:45,735 for all the employees going forward. 466 00:22:47,085 --> 00:22:51,265 And the last thing on my list is a town hall space study. 467 00:22:51,505 --> 00:22:53,945 I know a few departments fire has moved 468 00:22:54,765 --> 00:22:55,905 out of the town hall. 469 00:22:57,025 --> 00:22:58,705 There's companies that will come in 470 00:22:59,335 --> 00:23:02,185 that can better manage the space. 471 00:23:02,655 --> 00:23:07,625 It's just an, an idea, maybe some departments can shift 472 00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:10,265 around and utilize the space and town hall better. 473 00:23:10,365 --> 00:23:12,625 But there's again, it's professional companies 474 00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:17,075 that will come in and actually manage the, the, the space 475 00:23:17,175 --> 00:23:20,655 and that's their primary function. 476 00:23:20,795 --> 00:23:23,335 So in short, those are my goals. 477 00:23:24,435 --> 00:23:27,015 Any questions? Just, just one. 478 00:23:27,295 --> 00:23:28,975 As far as the non-covered employees, 479 00:23:30,035 --> 00:23:32,655 do we not only have four or five? 480 00:23:33,835 --> 00:23:37,055 So no, what it, it's a very small number. 481 00:23:37,165 --> 00:23:38,895 It's your three department heads. 482 00:23:39,955 --> 00:23:44,775 You have Sheila, so the executive secretary, 483 00:23:45,695 --> 00:23:48,645 human resources director, chief financial officer, 484 00:23:48,645 --> 00:23:51,605 there's a couple of positions that like accounting manager 485 00:23:51,605 --> 00:23:54,285 that no longer has a person in that spot. 486 00:23:54,905 --> 00:23:57,765 And then the town clerk's compensation isn't set. 487 00:23:57,905 --> 00:24:00,645 You guys as the council set that compensation, we did that 488 00:24:01,585 --> 00:24:02,845 by resolution. 489 00:24:02,945 --> 00:24:05,725 But in general that policy covers that. 490 00:24:05,825 --> 00:24:07,885 So it's, it's a very small number of employees. 491 00:24:07,885 --> 00:24:11,365 And what Council Healy for the public is, is referring 492 00:24:11,365 --> 00:24:15,605 to is I had sent out a, a real rudimentary salary 493 00:24:16,395 --> 00:24:18,285 compilation that was done to show 494 00:24:18,635 --> 00:24:20,485 what our comparable communities were 495 00:24:20,505 --> 00:24:24,085 as we were setting the rates for July 1st, 2026. 496 00:24:24,225 --> 00:24:27,285 So all the unions have negotiated numbers 497 00:24:27,705 --> 00:24:30,405 and your non-representative group is your last 498 00:24:30,505 --> 00:24:31,885 to kind of get settled. 499 00:24:32,305 --> 00:24:35,965 So many of the unions got 4% cost of livings. 500 00:24:36,305 --> 00:24:38,885 The other two police units are based off of the 501 00:24:39,885 --> 00:24:41,805 CPI at 3.3%. 502 00:24:42,185 --> 00:24:44,445 So essentially what had happened there, we looked at some 503 00:24:44,445 --> 00:24:46,725 of the numbers within that policy. 504 00:24:47,025 --> 00:24:48,645 The administrator has the ability 505 00:24:48,705 --> 00:24:51,685 to look at a market adjustment if it's, if it's viable. 506 00:24:52,145 --> 00:24:53,725 And as a result of what I had seen, 507 00:24:53,725 --> 00:24:56,725 there were two positions, human resources director 508 00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:59,885 and the CFO where I thought they were low in the range 509 00:25:00,025 --> 00:25:01,085 to make an adjustment. 510 00:25:01,305 --> 00:25:05,765 The other groups, the others in that group, I felt were new 511 00:25:05,765 --> 00:25:07,365 to that particular position 512 00:25:07,625 --> 00:25:08,925 and were keeping with that range. 513 00:25:09,165 --> 00:25:10,565 'cause one of the nuances in that, 514 00:25:10,585 --> 00:25:12,605 and we can get into the weeds of this later on, 515 00:25:12,905 --> 00:25:17,005 but the non-representative range, it moves up by CPI. 516 00:25:17,185 --> 00:25:19,685 So in other words, if you have a hundred thousand, 150,000 517 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:22,645 as your range, if it moves up, there's no opportunity 518 00:25:22,705 --> 00:25:26,445 for the employee to say as they gain proficiency to get to 519 00:25:26,445 --> 00:25:27,525 that top of the range. 520 00:25:27,535 --> 00:25:29,845 Right. Whereas the unions have steps. 521 00:25:30,585 --> 00:25:35,005 So there's some flaws in that particular pay system 522 00:25:35,225 --> 00:25:37,565 and maybe that's something that they, you bring to light 523 00:25:37,585 --> 00:25:39,725 as they do the, do the study on that. 524 00:25:39,725 --> 00:25:41,485 But it's not a large route to answer your question. 525 00:25:43,775 --> 00:25:46,065 Yeah, and I did, I just wanna be clear too that 526 00:25:46,725 --> 00:25:47,745 the recommendations 527 00:25:48,045 --> 00:25:50,185 by the town administrator I fully agree with. 528 00:25:50,665 --> 00:25:53,625 I just, I think that we should be looking at all of 'em. 529 00:25:53,925 --> 00:25:56,065 And I know some of them were just adjusted when 530 00:25:56,065 --> 00:25:57,665 they, you know, took the position. 531 00:25:57,765 --> 00:25:59,865 But there's still I think a few in there 532 00:26:00,295 --> 00:26:01,865 that maybe could be booked at. 533 00:26:01,905 --> 00:26:05,465 I think there's nine in in that, in that policy. 534 00:26:06,805 --> 00:26:08,745 But I do, I do fully agree with, 535 00:26:09,515 --> 00:26:13,065 given the increase based off of what we received. 536 00:26:16,145 --> 00:26:18,105 I think the only one of your goals that I, 537 00:26:18,385 --> 00:26:19,785 I think we should keep everything on here, 538 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:22,785 but is a precedent we all need 539 00:26:22,785 --> 00:26:24,505 to think about is making a policy 540 00:26:24,605 --> 00:26:26,625 that's gonna affect another council down the road. 541 00:26:26,805 --> 00:26:28,745 So when it comes to something like appointing a town 542 00:26:28,745 --> 00:26:33,015 counselor, there isn't a policy as exists right now 543 00:26:33,015 --> 00:26:36,735 because per the charter we, if it's not established, 544 00:26:36,735 --> 00:26:39,095 then we run it as we see fit to run it. 545 00:26:39,095 --> 00:26:41,455 And I I it's come up on other things too 546 00:26:41,455 --> 00:26:42,775 where we've been very hesitant 547 00:26:42,775 --> 00:26:44,925 to say we're gonna put something in place 548 00:26:44,925 --> 00:26:47,005 because the seven of us think it's a good idea 549 00:26:47,395 --> 00:26:50,285 that 10 years from now, seven different people have 550 00:26:50,285 --> 00:26:51,765 to follow 'cause we made some sort 551 00:26:51,765 --> 00:26:52,965 of resolution or policy or whatever. 552 00:26:53,025 --> 00:26:54,965 No, and you can make, if it's just a policy, 553 00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:57,365 it's a PP manual, you can change those instantly. 554 00:26:57,465 --> 00:26:58,885 So I think we should leave it on there. 555 00:26:58,885 --> 00:27:02,085 But I, when I read that, that was my thought is it's come up 556 00:27:02,085 --> 00:27:06,205 before and I don't wanna start getting into situations 557 00:27:06,205 --> 00:27:08,925 where we set a precedent that we're starting to set policy 558 00:27:09,035 --> 00:27:10,605 that has to be done a certain way 559 00:27:10,605 --> 00:27:12,405 because different situations call 560 00:27:12,405 --> 00:27:13,725 for different approaches sometimes. 561 00:27:13,745 --> 00:27:15,245 So I just wanna throw that piece out there, 562 00:27:15,245 --> 00:27:16,645 but I think it should stay, stay 563 00:27:16,645 --> 00:27:17,805 on the list for consideration. 564 00:27:18,085 --> 00:27:20,085 I just wanna kind of put that in there. 565 00:27:22,085 --> 00:27:23,685 I agree with you on that also simply 566 00:27:23,965 --> 00:27:26,205 'cause like you said, it's, it's not that it's vague, 567 00:27:26,275 --> 00:27:28,765 it's just that it's in there in the charter, 568 00:27:29,055 --> 00:27:31,645 which the town can council does well 569 00:27:33,705 --> 00:27:37,485 as far as having a chance to present for two 570 00:27:37,485 --> 00:27:41,325 or three minutes, that should all be covered in any kind 571 00:27:41,325 --> 00:27:44,245 of a resume that they send in for qualifications. 572 00:27:45,305 --> 00:27:46,725 If we have any questions, 573 00:27:46,745 --> 00:27:48,605 we can always contact a certain person, 574 00:27:48,665 --> 00:27:50,005 we can ask them to come in. 575 00:27:50,385 --> 00:27:52,085 But otherwise I think that the policy, 576 00:27:52,185 --> 00:27:54,605 the way we have it right now is sufficient. 577 00:27:54,605 --> 00:27:58,645 And I agree we shouldn't be binding future 578 00:27:59,325 --> 00:28:01,245 students for the regulation. Yeah, 579 00:28:01,345 --> 00:28:03,365 And I think to your point, you are looking 580 00:28:03,365 --> 00:28:05,565 for this one thing that if we're gonna do that, we have 581 00:28:05,565 --> 00:28:07,605 to have a whole policy of how it all runs. 582 00:28:08,145 --> 00:28:11,485 And just to use Council Moje as an example, I mean, 583 00:28:11,485 --> 00:28:14,405 I think we talked about if she had her resignation in a 584 00:28:14,405 --> 00:28:17,125 month or a month and a half sooner, we would've let it run 585 00:28:17,125 --> 00:28:18,765 until the election, but we couldn't do that. 586 00:28:18,785 --> 00:28:21,925 So I think it, it it, it isn't a small change, 587 00:28:22,155 --> 00:28:23,765 it's actually establishing a full policy. 588 00:28:23,945 --> 00:28:25,445 So that's, that was where my mind was. 589 00:28:25,505 --> 00:28:27,205 So I, I think for what you are looking 590 00:28:27,225 --> 00:28:28,845 for, yeah, that would be fine. 591 00:28:28,865 --> 00:28:30,445 We can look at that if that's what the council 592 00:28:30,775 --> 00:28:32,325 makes, makes sense to do. 593 00:28:32,425 --> 00:28:34,845 But I, again, I don't think it should come off of the list 594 00:28:34,905 --> 00:28:35,925 of consideration right now, 595 00:28:35,925 --> 00:28:36,925 but I just wanted to put that out 596 00:28:36,925 --> 00:28:37,885 there during prompt perception. 597 00:28:38,915 --> 00:28:40,605 Yeah, I just wanna add hopefully 598 00:28:40,875 --> 00:28:44,085 that if we did have a policy we wouldn't be using it. 599 00:28:44,105 --> 00:28:45,765 But that's just 600 00:28:46,625 --> 00:28:47,625 See, know something we don't know. 601 00:28:49,105 --> 00:28:51,005 But I mean, I just, I just like the idea 602 00:28:51,185 --> 00:28:54,285 of giving them just a little time to, to speak, 603 00:28:54,385 --> 00:28:58,125 but I, I do understand that maybe we could ask if it is 604 00:28:59,805 --> 00:29:01,685 situation in the future to maybe have the resume 605 00:29:01,945 --> 00:29:04,325 or the, the letter be a little more detailed or, 606 00:29:04,545 --> 00:29:08,085 or something along those lines just to get kind 607 00:29:08,085 --> 00:29:10,125 of the full picture of, of each candidate. 608 00:29:10,505 --> 00:29:14,965 But it's not, you know, that's low on my, my list of, 609 00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:17,085 it's probably last on my list, 610 00:29:17,225 --> 00:29:19,245 but I just figured I'd, I'd throw it up. 611 00:29:20,125 --> 00:29:21,125 Excellent. 612 00:29:22,545 --> 00:29:25,245 All right. Comes the foot. Thank you Madam Chair. 613 00:29:26,385 --> 00:29:27,645 So I'm like, what, what here? 614 00:29:27,865 --> 00:29:29,645 So like we talked about the, 615 00:29:29,825 --> 00:29:32,885 the scene room guys obviously are, are on there. 616 00:29:33,745 --> 00:29:36,685 The four A opportunities I need to count the most scoring. 617 00:29:37,105 --> 00:29:39,485 We, we really need to hone in on that and, 618 00:29:39,545 --> 00:29:42,625 and really kind of oversee that 619 00:29:42,625 --> 00:29:45,505 and what, what we're gonna do with that initially hit the, 620 00:29:46,505 --> 00:29:51,345 maximize the opportunities while they're being built now 621 00:29:51,845 --> 00:29:54,705 and not have buyers or more right down the road 622 00:29:54,705 --> 00:29:55,705 and like, oh, we should done, should done that. 623 00:29:55,705 --> 00:29:59,465 So I think we just need to all stay on point with that. 624 00:30:03,085 --> 00:30:05,825 So this is one of my old 625 00:30:06,845 --> 00:30:09,825 things from a few years ago, hood Park, 626 00:30:10,085 --> 00:30:12,065 and I know it's no fault of the town room, 627 00:30:12,525 --> 00:30:15,305 but the re violation hood, PA Hood, hood Pond 628 00:30:15,305 --> 00:30:17,905 and the park itself, I think that's important 629 00:30:17,905 --> 00:30:20,025 because now we have to have a hor project going on. 630 00:30:20,625 --> 00:30:25,105 I I personally believe that the Hood, the Hood project will 631 00:30:25,975 --> 00:30:29,025 help with that downtown development. 632 00:30:29,045 --> 00:30:31,105 You know, when when we, when it goes to the next phases 633 00:30:31,175 --> 00:30:32,665 with the, you know, the apartments, things like that, 634 00:30:32,855 --> 00:30:34,345 it's gonna be a big draw and a big vibe. 635 00:30:34,345 --> 00:30:37,385 People, you know, they can walk to park right there. 636 00:30:37,385 --> 00:30:39,585 They didn't have that. There's coffee shops downtown, 637 00:30:39,585 --> 00:30:41,985 there's restaurants, there's all these things, amenities 638 00:30:41,985 --> 00:30:44,985 that they can easily walk to a park would be a great idea 639 00:30:44,985 --> 00:30:48,265 with the pond and take it as far as get pink. 640 00:30:48,415 --> 00:30:51,185 This, the initial goal back then was get Pinkerton involved 641 00:30:51,185 --> 00:30:55,185 the CT program, the wilderness students having to come out 642 00:30:55,185 --> 00:30:56,265 and try to get involved with the, 643 00:30:56,265 --> 00:30:57,745 the basic species, things like that. 644 00:30:58,045 --> 00:30:59,745 So I think it's a win-win all around for that. 645 00:31:01,965 --> 00:31:05,545 And again, I know that was put out to IRP, it was, it was a, 646 00:31:06,565 --> 00:31:09,425 you know, used upon here it was a small fish in a big pond 647 00:31:09,425 --> 00:31:11,065 that people just weren't biking at it 648 00:31:11,065 --> 00:31:13,785 because it was such a small project in the grand scheme of 649 00:31:14,365 --> 00:31:16,505 the contractors out there, bigger projects. 650 00:31:16,525 --> 00:31:20,265 But, but I, I'd like us to really try to refocus that. 651 00:31:21,045 --> 00:31:22,465 And again, that's no fault of the town 652 00:31:22,465 --> 00:31:23,545 or DPB or anything like that. 653 00:31:23,545 --> 00:31:26,265 That's just how things work. 654 00:31:27,575 --> 00:31:30,545 Another one from a few years ago that we wanted 655 00:31:30,545 --> 00:31:32,345 that I wanted revisit with you, 656 00:31:33,285 --> 00:31:34,825 we looked at the a CO position. 657 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:41,065 I would like to re re kind of re review that 658 00:31:41,245 --> 00:31:44,105 and see, you know, our a CO what the actual drug 659 00:31:44,885 --> 00:31:48,065 is entailed right now versus what if any 660 00:31:48,775 --> 00:31:49,985 expansion can be made. 661 00:31:51,155 --> 00:31:53,515 Whether it be, you know, other animals, what, you know, 662 00:31:53,515 --> 00:31:57,475 what is our policy for, for, you know, wild animals. 663 00:31:57,555 --> 00:31:59,595 I know people sometimes would call companies 664 00:31:59,595 --> 00:32:01,635 and things like that, but you know, 665 00:32:01,645 --> 00:32:03,875 let's say an owl, what happens? 666 00:32:03,975 --> 00:32:05,715 An owl gets hurt or injured, you know, 667 00:32:06,305 --> 00:32:07,355 what do the police do with it? 668 00:32:07,945 --> 00:32:09,795 Does a sit on the road or you know, 669 00:32:10,935 --> 00:32:12,355 and I know not everyone's animal lover, 670 00:32:12,355 --> 00:32:14,035 but in today's world, 671 00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:16,795 the pet industry is a multi-billion dollar business 672 00:32:16,815 --> 00:32:20,875 and people on go on social media, you'll see all the people. 673 00:32:21,535 --> 00:32:22,555 If it has an animal in it, 674 00:32:22,555 --> 00:32:23,755 people are gonna click on and subscribe. 675 00:32:23,755 --> 00:32:25,635 They're gonna watch it and the view's gonna be up. 676 00:32:25,855 --> 00:32:28,035 So I think we just need to be cognizant of that and, 677 00:32:28,735 --> 00:32:30,755 and revisit the a CO position. 678 00:32:30,975 --> 00:32:34,435 And what, if anything, could we do to maximize that 679 00:32:36,425 --> 00:32:38,635 Ryan till I know we've, we've had 680 00:32:38,635 --> 00:32:39,685 that on our radar for a while. 681 00:32:39,685 --> 00:32:41,765 We've worked enough for years and I know the, you know, 682 00:32:41,765 --> 00:32:43,605 water and sewer and we talked about 683 00:32:43,805 --> 00:32:44,845 redevelopment and things like that. 684 00:32:46,015 --> 00:32:47,805 Again, as far as business opportunities, I think 685 00:32:47,805 --> 00:32:50,005 that's something we need to really still focus on now 686 00:32:50,005 --> 00:32:51,645 that the water and that all the 687 00:32:52,415 --> 00:32:54,565 mitigation issues have been dealt with up there. 688 00:32:55,305 --> 00:32:57,645 That's something. And I know like high work has gone in 689 00:32:57,645 --> 00:32:59,245 there and that, that place is beautiful. 690 00:32:59,505 --> 00:33:03,325 So we started on the northern side of bypass 28. 691 00:33:03,325 --> 00:33:05,205 Now we need to kind of continue further south 692 00:33:05,205 --> 00:33:06,205 and see what we can do with that. 693 00:33:08,105 --> 00:33:10,685 And I think Council Webb mentioned this earlier, 694 00:33:10,685 --> 00:33:14,125 health insurance, you know, what was it, 27% 695 00:33:14,125 --> 00:33:15,645 that we went up 27%. 696 00:33:17,165 --> 00:33:19,165 I think that's just the, the, 697 00:33:19,225 --> 00:33:20,525 the market out there for everything. 698 00:33:20,525 --> 00:33:21,925 But I think we can do better. 699 00:33:22,165 --> 00:33:24,765 I, I'm pretty sure if we, you know, the mass buying power, 700 00:33:25,045 --> 00:33:26,445 whatever, whatever that looks like, whether it be 701 00:33:26,985 --> 00:33:28,565 you don't get to get involved with other communities, 702 00:33:28,585 --> 00:33:29,645 I'm not sure if that's something we can do, 703 00:33:29,985 --> 00:33:31,725 get like a buying power type thing and 704 00:33:31,725 --> 00:33:35,125 and really try to hone in on lowering those costs. 705 00:33:36,145 --> 00:33:37,765 You know, unfortunately everyone needs health insurance 706 00:33:38,265 --> 00:33:40,285 and it's a, it's a monopolized market. 707 00:33:40,305 --> 00:33:42,245 People, you know, there's a demand for it, 708 00:33:42,345 --> 00:33:43,445 so they're gonna raise the prices, 709 00:33:43,625 --> 00:33:46,525 but I think we need to really do better at that. 710 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:49,525 And again, that's no fault of anybody in the town, just 711 00:33:49,525 --> 00:33:52,565 how the, how the things have fallen over the years 712 00:33:52,635 --> 00:33:54,205 with co post COVID or whatnot. 713 00:33:54,585 --> 00:33:58,855 So I think there's a lot of money, maybe not to be saved, 714 00:33:58,955 --> 00:34:00,935 but we could do a lot of cost avoidance 715 00:34:01,475 --> 00:34:04,455 if we get very diligent and really hone in on that. 716 00:34:04,515 --> 00:34:07,415 But it was two years, like we have to, to do that two years. 717 00:34:07,475 --> 00:34:08,615 We wanna make that settled before then. 718 00:34:08,675 --> 00:34:11,375 But you know, dairy, we went not the worst, 719 00:34:11,835 --> 00:34:12,855 but we're definitely not the best. 720 00:34:12,855 --> 00:34:13,975 What's out there as far as the, 721 00:34:13,975 --> 00:34:15,855 the health increases. You know, it's, it's around. 722 00:34:15,955 --> 00:34:19,055 So it was really interesting, I, I know I sent it wrong 723 00:34:19,325 --> 00:34:22,255 that the editorial that was recently the op-ed 724 00:34:22,255 --> 00:34:24,335 that was in the union leader talking about the health 725 00:34:24,335 --> 00:34:26,895 insurance trust and the numbers 726 00:34:26,895 --> 00:34:29,535 that this op-ed pointed out was that the family plan 727 00:34:29,535 --> 00:34:32,375 through a health trust was $50,000, which is 728 00:34:32,375 --> 00:34:33,975 what we're seeing where some 729 00:34:33,975 --> 00:34:36,095 of the surrounding states are looking at similar family 730 00:34:36,105 --> 00:34:37,815 plans at 27,000. 731 00:34:38,595 --> 00:34:39,655 You know, that's one of those numbers. 732 00:34:39,755 --> 00:34:42,775 You, you want to trust the source, but you have to verify. 733 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:47,575 And I think to go with health insurance, this is, 734 00:34:48,595 --> 00:34:50,095 you know, one of the areas where 735 00:34:50,635 --> 00:34:52,695 we don't have expertise in house 736 00:34:54,145 --> 00:34:57,565 and I think that we have people that are stakeholders. 737 00:34:58,605 --> 00:35:02,075 I don't think we necessarily have, you know, 738 00:35:02,075 --> 00:35:04,595 we've got a numbers guy who's fantastic and Bob McCarthy, 739 00:35:05,215 --> 00:35:07,395 but I don't think we have the expertise in house 740 00:35:07,395 --> 00:35:10,795 and this might be an area that we do put this group together 741 00:35:10,795 --> 00:35:12,315 that we should look at a facilitator, 742 00:35:13,245 --> 00:35:14,245 Right. 743 00:35:14,245 --> 00:35:18,275 And, and to that point, you know, that again 744 00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:20,795 for just to, not to stop grasping about it, 745 00:35:20,795 --> 00:35:22,075 but the town is a business. 746 00:35:22,075 --> 00:35:23,275 We're running their business, you know, 747 00:35:23,275 --> 00:35:24,395 to the, to the residents. 748 00:35:24,455 --> 00:35:27,835 We we're providing them services to provide those services. 749 00:35:27,855 --> 00:35:30,635 We have employees, the employees have to be compensated 750 00:35:30,735 --> 00:35:32,995 and they have, compensation is insurance. 751 00:35:33,115 --> 00:35:34,515 I mean, many people take second 752 00:35:34,535 --> 00:35:36,995 or third jobs for health insurance purposes. 753 00:35:37,505 --> 00:35:42,065 So if we have the employees right now routine, we need 754 00:35:42,065 --> 00:35:44,505 to provide them with insurance 755 00:35:44,505 --> 00:35:46,705 that's worth them staying here, number one. 756 00:35:46,855 --> 00:35:49,145 Because if they leave, that creates vacancies, which 757 00:35:49,525 --> 00:35:50,905 as we know the all the time costs go up, 758 00:35:50,905 --> 00:35:52,065 it's round and round and round. 759 00:35:52,685 --> 00:35:56,065 And then that's the disservice to the residents 760 00:35:56,465 --> 00:35:59,185 'cause their, their tax money is kind of just getting 761 00:35:59,785 --> 00:36:01,265 recycled, recycled, recycled. 762 00:36:01,605 --> 00:36:03,585 So I think it's important as a business 763 00:36:03,805 --> 00:36:04,865 to look at it from that point of view. 764 00:36:04,865 --> 00:36:08,065 Like how do we maximize the best for the customer 765 00:36:08,205 --> 00:36:11,145 and the best for the employee and find that happy meeting. 766 00:36:11,565 --> 00:36:14,265 So that's, thank you. Thank you. 767 00:36:14,805 --> 00:36:17,765 Any other ing comment grant? 768 00:36:18,635 --> 00:36:21,485 Well mine are all just repetitive. So Don quickly. 769 00:36:22,285 --> 00:36:24,885 I definitely have the new police station on, on their, 770 00:36:24,945 --> 00:36:27,965 the radar, you know, continuing to make a plan. 771 00:36:28,545 --> 00:36:30,085 You know, obviously I don't, the goal is not 772 00:36:30,085 --> 00:36:31,485 to build a police station this year, 773 00:36:31,665 --> 00:36:34,285 but to kind of continue to have it front of mind 774 00:36:34,705 --> 00:36:37,245 and to cons, floods, commute from earlier, try to 775 00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:41,165 be a little ahead of things instead of, you know, I I think 776 00:36:41,265 --> 00:36:43,405 by the time we got to the fire station, we did a good job 777 00:36:43,405 --> 00:36:45,925 of the managing the costs that existed at that point. 778 00:36:47,465 --> 00:36:49,525 But had we built it 10 years ago, 779 00:36:50,025 --> 00:36:51,205 it wouldn't have been expensive. 780 00:36:51,425 --> 00:36:54,765 So I'd like to continue to work on this so that we're ready 781 00:36:54,765 --> 00:36:57,925 to go when the time is right for that. 782 00:36:59,295 --> 00:37:03,885 We've talked to quite extensively already about reviewing 783 00:37:03,885 --> 00:37:05,805 and the veterans and elderly exemptions 784 00:37:05,825 --> 00:37:09,005 and hopefully figuring out where we can increase a bit. 785 00:37:09,865 --> 00:37:14,245 And then I also have, as counselor put, Mayo have kind 786 00:37:14,245 --> 00:37:16,725 of talked about over time reviewing and, 787 00:37:16,725 --> 00:37:18,805 and updating our animal control. 788 00:37:19,165 --> 00:37:21,445 Both the, the position of what it is 789 00:37:21,585 --> 00:37:25,845 and what, what the role is and the policies that go with it. 790 00:37:26,145 --> 00:37:28,565 I'm not even at wildlife. I would just like cats included. 791 00:37:29,545 --> 00:37:31,325 If we could just get cats, I'd be happy. 792 00:37:31,785 --> 00:37:36,205 But I do think there's, they're having talked with 793 00:37:36,955 --> 00:37:40,685 some animal control officers within the state from 794 00:37:40,715 --> 00:37:42,485 that have some really well developed 795 00:37:43,485 --> 00:37:44,485 positions in departments. 796 00:37:45,325 --> 00:37:48,205 There's a lot that we, we can be doing. 797 00:37:48,385 --> 00:37:50,565 And in my opinion we should be doing to, 798 00:37:50,625 --> 00:37:53,645 to councilor Foot's point, it's, it's just a matter of time 799 00:37:53,775 --> 00:37:56,885 until somebody comes after us 800 00:37:56,885 --> 00:37:58,485 because we weren't there to do something. 801 00:37:58,585 --> 00:37:59,605 And I think that is 802 00:37:59,605 --> 00:38:03,925 because our policies are very, we, we, I don't want to, 803 00:38:04,085 --> 00:38:05,765 I don't wanna diminish the importance 804 00:38:05,905 --> 00:38:07,725 of our animal control officer's role, 805 00:38:07,985 --> 00:38:09,845 but we have a dog officer right now 806 00:38:10,105 --> 00:38:12,325 and I think we should have an animal control 807 00:38:12,325 --> 00:38:13,405 officer in today's world. 808 00:38:14,115 --> 00:38:16,405 Whether it's, you know, whether it's 809 00:38:16,425 --> 00:38:19,485 to coordinate wildlife efforts, whether it's other pets, 810 00:38:19,485 --> 00:38:20,525 whether there's other things going on. 811 00:38:20,565 --> 00:38:24,205 I just think, I sit on the Governor's commission 812 00:38:24,205 --> 00:38:26,085 for animal welfare and there's way more 813 00:38:26,085 --> 00:38:28,885 to an animal control officer's job than dogs at this point. 814 00:38:29,025 --> 00:38:31,525 And we have some of the primary animals 815 00:38:31,525 --> 00:38:34,085 that normally would be dealt with with those. 816 00:38:34,185 --> 00:38:35,725 So I mean we have them, 'em all over the town. 817 00:38:35,785 --> 00:38:37,005 So yeah, I really think 818 00:38:37,005 --> 00:38:38,405 that should be a priority at this point. 819 00:38:38,405 --> 00:38:40,205 We are a little behind the time zone. That one 820 00:38:40,645 --> 00:38:41,645 I chime again. 821 00:38:41,645 --> 00:38:44,925 Yes, thank you to that point. So again, something like that. 822 00:38:45,065 --> 00:38:47,805 But we're a business and we're providing customer service 823 00:38:48,145 --> 00:38:52,085 and I think, you know, so we might get the standard, 824 00:38:52,185 --> 00:38:55,605 but we are perfectly capable of increasing that standard 825 00:38:56,105 --> 00:38:58,085 and, and optimiz and maximizing that, 826 00:38:58,715 --> 00:39:01,005 that customer service experience for the people in town. 827 00:39:01,135 --> 00:39:04,605 Again, it's a, the pet industry is a multi-billion 828 00:39:05,065 --> 00:39:07,365 and if if, and people care more about the animals animals 829 00:39:07,365 --> 00:39:09,565 than they do about other social, you know, 830 00:39:10,615 --> 00:39:12,205 other social events and things like that. 831 00:39:12,625 --> 00:39:13,525 You know, if you look on social 832 00:39:13,525 --> 00:39:14,525 media, you'll see a lot of that. 833 00:39:14,905 --> 00:39:19,325 But I think, I think if, if the council is amenable to, 834 00:39:19,325 --> 00:39:21,645 to us reviewing all this down the road, I think 835 00:39:21,645 --> 00:39:23,885 that's something we could reach out to other departments 836 00:39:24,065 --> 00:39:28,925 who do have different disciplines 837 00:39:28,985 --> 00:39:31,085 or whatnot and see how they're doing it and, 838 00:39:31,085 --> 00:39:33,685 and maybe take a hybrid, kind of take a few communities 839 00:39:34,025 --> 00:39:36,685 and kind of pick and choose what's gonna benefit dairy the 840 00:39:36,685 --> 00:39:37,725 most and put those together. 841 00:39:38,145 --> 00:39:39,405 And again, at the end of the day, 842 00:39:39,545 --> 00:39:41,645 we wanna provide the best customer experience that we can. 843 00:39:41,745 --> 00:39:43,245 And I think this is the way we can do that. 844 00:39:43,975 --> 00:39:45,845 Again, it's no secret on the animal over, 845 00:39:45,865 --> 00:39:47,165 but this is, these are things 846 00:39:47,165 --> 00:39:49,805 that I've also heard on a regular basis from physicians, 847 00:39:50,185 --> 00:39:52,365 you know, and I know you and I have had some experiences in 848 00:39:52,365 --> 00:39:54,685 the past with some things that we can, 849 00:39:54,715 --> 00:39:55,885 that we know we can do better. 850 00:39:56,505 --> 00:39:59,125 So, and that's not an knock towards anyone currently, 851 00:39:59,195 --> 00:40:02,245 it's just that times change with evolution. 852 00:40:02,265 --> 00:40:05,125 We need to evolve with those times. Thank you. 853 00:40:07,625 --> 00:40:09,605 And those were, I had a lot of the things that I, 854 00:40:11,015 --> 00:40:14,425 that I had had on past goals we're doing. 855 00:40:14,565 --> 00:40:16,665 So we have, we have a fire department, 856 00:40:16,685 --> 00:40:19,265 we have our new fire at station now, so I'm good. 857 00:40:19,305 --> 00:40:20,545 I can take that off the list finally. 858 00:40:21,645 --> 00:40:24,665 So yeah, I think a lot of what everybody has put forth I, 859 00:40:25,445 --> 00:40:28,775 or definitely I like 860 00:40:28,775 --> 00:40:30,655 how we all came together from our own areas 861 00:40:31,135 --> 00:40:32,495 to put together every few minute. 862 00:40:33,515 --> 00:40:35,135 Anyone have anything else they wanna add 863 00:40:35,235 --> 00:40:38,175 before we move on to our next step? Things 864 00:40:38,575 --> 00:40:39,855 I, I, I just wanna say one, 865 00:40:39,995 --> 00:40:41,735 one more thing about going back to veterans 866 00:40:41,855 --> 00:40:43,415 'cause it's stuck in my, my mind 867 00:40:44,695 --> 00:40:47,615 Counselor Healy was talking about doing that $50 jump and, 868 00:40:47,675 --> 00:40:48,735 and doing things like that. 869 00:40:49,715 --> 00:40:53,015 As I listen to all our goals, we just managed to bond, 870 00:40:53,495 --> 00:40:56,415 I don't know how many millions for, for the fire station 871 00:40:56,835 --> 00:40:57,815 and we're gonna have to do the 872 00:40:57,815 --> 00:40:58,895 same thing for the police station. 873 00:40:59,335 --> 00:41:02,855 I can't see an earthly reason why we can't jump 874 00:41:03,395 --> 00:41:04,975 and pay veterans. 875 00:41:05,145 --> 00:41:08,895 We're paying 'em, giving them a $550 tax break. 876 00:41:09,225 --> 00:41:12,815 While we can't add $200 a veteran to that. 877 00:41:13,255 --> 00:41:15,375 I think this is gonna be one of my goals 878 00:41:15,395 --> 00:41:17,895 to make this the council that increases it. 879 00:41:17,895 --> 00:41:21,175 The heck with the $50, let's go right through seven 50 880 00:41:21,515 --> 00:41:22,695 and put this to bed. 881 00:41:22,805 --> 00:41:23,895 I've been listening to this 882 00:41:23,955 --> 00:41:27,535 for 25 years now about this veterans exemption. 883 00:41:27,675 --> 00:41:29,375 And if we can build fire stations, 884 00:41:29,395 --> 00:41:32,455 we can build police stations, we can fix all our, 885 00:41:32,715 --> 00:41:35,165 our wastewater and increase our sewage, 886 00:41:36,145 --> 00:41:38,005 we can give the veterans 200 credit 887 00:41:41,645 --> 00:41:42,645 Before we move on. 888 00:41:42,645 --> 00:41:44,525 I do, councilor Chase wasn't able to join us tonight. 889 00:41:44,565 --> 00:41:45,965 I did just want, I know you, you said most 890 00:41:45,985 --> 00:41:47,525 of this I did, but just, I, 891 00:41:47,925 --> 00:41:49,605 I I think I skipped one For the public. 892 00:41:49,685 --> 00:41:51,125 I just was gonna read through his goals. 893 00:41:51,285 --> 00:41:53,045 I, I don't, I can't elaborate, 894 00:41:53,105 --> 00:41:54,565 but most of them, they're in 895 00:41:54,565 --> 00:41:55,645 line with what we've talked about. 896 00:41:56,585 --> 00:41:58,885 He had continued downtown projects 897 00:41:58,885 --> 00:42:01,845 and revitalization Route 28 south infrastructure 898 00:42:01,845 --> 00:42:04,365 improvements, evaluate housing needs in town 899 00:42:04,365 --> 00:42:07,725 and plan to meet needs, evaluate town facility needs 900 00:42:08,025 --> 00:42:09,565 and plan for waste water 901 00:42:09,585 --> 00:42:11,885 and wastewater expansion to support future growth. 902 00:42:12,105 --> 00:42:14,365 So just so that we have complete all 903 00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:18,325 what we all had submitted, we'll turn back over to you Mr. 904 00:42:18,435 --> 00:42:21,765 Proa. Alright, so I think one of the things that I think 905 00:42:21,945 --> 00:42:25,525 to cap this on, we'll kind of compile these goals. 906 00:42:25,965 --> 00:42:28,965 A couple of questions here, but I do wanna at least throw 907 00:42:28,965 --> 00:42:33,365 out a couple of other items that maybe Oh yeah, you know, 908 00:42:33,625 --> 00:42:35,325 we neglected to mention that. 909 00:42:35,385 --> 00:42:37,965 So I just want to kinda run through a couple of items that, 910 00:42:38,705 --> 00:42:40,165 you know, I've identified and, 911 00:42:40,185 --> 00:42:42,365 and if there's anything that stimulates, you know, 912 00:42:42,365 --> 00:42:44,125 the council stop me and, 913 00:42:44,125 --> 00:42:45,725 and we can have some discussion about it. 914 00:42:45,785 --> 00:42:49,925 But you know, looking at, obviously we have HB 1300, 915 00:42:50,065 --> 00:42:54,125 we have HB 1331, which is the absorption of the town, 916 00:42:54,545 --> 00:42:56,965 the school tax cap, all those issues. 917 00:42:56,965 --> 00:42:59,805 That is a pending issue that could be moving forward 918 00:42:59,905 --> 00:43:01,285 to the voters here very soon. 919 00:43:02,625 --> 00:43:05,565 We obviously have to make sure we articulate the impacts 920 00:43:05,745 --> 00:43:07,085 of our upcoming tax rate 921 00:43:07,085 --> 00:43:09,005 and I'm, I'm gonna use the word torpedo, right? 922 00:43:09,005 --> 00:43:10,165 We're gonna see in December, 923 00:43:10,585 --> 00:43:12,845 that's gonna be a difficult pill to swallow. 924 00:43:12,905 --> 00:43:17,445 We just got done with the acceptance of the June bill 925 00:43:17,545 --> 00:43:18,765 and now we're looking at, 926 00:43:19,075 --> 00:43:21,365 with the increased spending primarily out 927 00:43:21,365 --> 00:43:23,325 of the school district, we're going 928 00:43:23,325 --> 00:43:26,085 to see some significant increases. 929 00:43:26,105 --> 00:43:29,285 So in that September october range, we have an idea 930 00:43:29,285 --> 00:43:30,405 of where that tax rate is. 931 00:43:30,525 --> 00:43:33,685 I will be presenting to the public, to the council to kind 932 00:43:33,685 --> 00:43:36,845 of elaborate where those pinch points are going to be. 933 00:43:36,865 --> 00:43:38,725 But I wanna make sure that we articulate that 934 00:43:39,315 --> 00:43:40,725 transparently for everybody. 935 00:43:41,765 --> 00:43:43,565 Obviously in my department, I'm looking, 936 00:43:43,565 --> 00:43:46,445 gonna be looking potentially to backfill the retirement 937 00:43:46,445 --> 00:43:47,685 of our executive secretary. 938 00:43:48,085 --> 00:43:50,445 That's going to be probably coming fairly soon. I 939 00:43:50,445 --> 00:43:51,605 Would like to just take that opportunity. 940 00:43:51,825 --> 00:43:55,285 Yes, exactly. We're not doing that. 941 00:43:55,535 --> 00:43:57,405 There you go. Right. And that's, you know, 942 00:43:57,405 --> 00:44:01,125 she's had a wonderful career obviously we still have 943 00:44:01,125 --> 00:44:03,245 to have some discussions about the disposition 944 00:44:03,245 --> 00:44:04,485 of the central fire station. 945 00:44:05,155 --> 00:44:06,925 That is on my list of things to do. 946 00:44:07,795 --> 00:44:10,285 Jack, you had mentioned about opioid settlement funds. 947 00:44:11,095 --> 00:44:15,805 There is a CHS has done some preliminary application 948 00:44:15,805 --> 00:44:17,205 towards a grant 949 00:44:17,705 --> 00:44:21,205 and if that is moving forward, there's an opportunity 950 00:44:21,265 --> 00:44:23,565 for the town at least on a short term basis 951 00:44:23,705 --> 00:44:26,645 to utilize some funds to co joinin with them. 952 00:44:26,865 --> 00:44:29,005 So that's a decision that the council would, 953 00:44:29,135 --> 00:44:31,965 would be seeking to make at some point down the road. 954 00:44:32,025 --> 00:44:33,885 So that's probably something we may see on a, 955 00:44:33,885 --> 00:44:36,845 like a September or October agenda if it 956 00:44:36,845 --> 00:44:38,005 looks like that is possible. 957 00:44:38,005 --> 00:44:40,445 But you could potentially bridge through a grant 958 00:44:40,905 --> 00:44:44,325 to CHS while we're still figuring out if we want 959 00:44:44,325 --> 00:44:47,245 to have a full-time or multi town individual 960 00:44:47,265 --> 00:44:49,205 that's dedicated to social services 961 00:44:49,205 --> 00:44:50,605 within our police department. 962 00:44:52,035 --> 00:44:54,565 Obviously we're gonna keep an eye on the landfill solar 963 00:44:54,665 --> 00:44:57,085 and I'll report those findings. 964 00:44:57,835 --> 00:44:59,765 Community power, that's still on my list. 965 00:44:59,845 --> 00:45:01,445 I have an RFP that's out right now. 966 00:45:01,795 --> 00:45:03,005 When we identify that, 967 00:45:03,005 --> 00:45:05,125 hopefully we catch some identified rates 968 00:45:05,485 --> 00:45:07,685 that will work in favor of our residents. 969 00:45:08,375 --> 00:45:10,845 We're gonna look at the financial health of the organization 970 00:45:10,845 --> 00:45:13,965 through comprehensive financial forecasting for sustainable 971 00:45:14,145 --> 00:45:15,525 and non-sustainable funds. 972 00:45:17,145 --> 00:45:20,005 One of the things that I did want to ask in listening to all 973 00:45:20,005 --> 00:45:23,645 of this is would you like me to do a brief 974 00:45:24,165 --> 00:45:27,885 tidbit style presentation on our UFB, our, our 975 00:45:28,525 --> 00:45:30,525 unallocated fund balance on July 7th? 976 00:45:30,665 --> 00:45:33,885 I'm ready to do that. And we can at least that'll give you 977 00:45:33,885 --> 00:45:36,005 some ideas as to what you may wanna do 978 00:45:36,065 --> 00:45:37,805 and it ties in with a lot of goals 979 00:45:37,805 --> 00:45:38,805 that have been identified. 980 00:45:38,805 --> 00:45:40,685 So I'll, I'll put that on the agenda for the seventh 981 00:45:40,985 --> 00:45:42,765 and we'll have, you know, it could just be an open 982 00:45:42,765 --> 00:45:44,125 discussion, but I'll put it under the 983 00:45:44,125 --> 00:45:45,325 town administrator's report. 984 00:45:46,275 --> 00:45:51,125 Obviously we're gonna continue to look at the new valuation. 985 00:45:51,145 --> 00:45:52,365 We had a good year last year. 986 00:45:52,415 --> 00:45:54,285 We're projecting another probably 50 987 00:45:54,385 --> 00:45:56,485 to $55 million in new growth. 988 00:45:56,705 --> 00:46:00,525 That's a good thing. Monitor state legislative process 989 00:46:00,705 --> 00:46:02,525 to ensure that dairies interests are being met. 990 00:46:04,655 --> 00:46:06,885 We're gonna look at human service agencies 991 00:46:06,885 --> 00:46:09,605 because obviously their costs have been increasing as well. 992 00:46:09,665 --> 00:46:12,365 And I'm hearing, you know, some items that they're, 993 00:46:12,365 --> 00:46:14,605 they're struggling in certain instances so we need 994 00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:15,805 to kind of keep an eye on that. 995 00:46:16,055 --> 00:46:18,045 We've talked a lot about veteran credits 996 00:46:18,045 --> 00:46:19,245 and exceptions for elderly. 997 00:46:19,265 --> 00:46:21,925 That's definitely something that we want to take a look at. 998 00:46:21,925 --> 00:46:25,245 And I think if you tell me when you wanna slot that in, 999 00:46:25,725 --> 00:46:28,085 I can start to prepare some of the information. 1000 00:46:29,045 --> 00:46:30,925 A lot of what the other communities do is, 1001 00:46:30,945 --> 00:46:32,725 is already published on the Department 1002 00:46:32,725 --> 00:46:34,685 of Rev revenues website. 1003 00:46:34,705 --> 00:46:36,085 So you can get that information 1004 00:46:36,235 --> 00:46:37,685 without a heavy lift on our part. 1005 00:46:37,705 --> 00:46:40,205 We just would need to look at the scenarios. 1006 00:46:40,205 --> 00:46:43,405 If you increase to X, what does that do for what you have 1007 00:46:43,405 --> 00:46:46,005 to make up on the other side Cable? 1008 00:46:46,685 --> 00:46:49,085 That is one thing I think sooner rather than later 1009 00:46:49,085 --> 00:46:50,245 we need to have that discussion. 1010 00:46:50,245 --> 00:46:52,365 We talked a lot about FY 27. 1011 00:46:52,545 --> 00:46:54,405 I'd like to do some form of a workshop 1012 00:46:54,955 --> 00:46:57,045 perhaps when we get into September 1013 00:46:57,145 --> 00:46:59,325 or October so we can roll that out. 1014 00:47:00,305 --> 00:47:02,525 On the economic development front, we're continuing 1015 00:47:02,525 --> 00:47:04,125 with the Abbott Court construction. 1016 00:47:05,035 --> 00:47:07,205 Obviously we've got a secondary wave 1017 00:47:07,225 --> 00:47:09,205 of development Crystal Ave, some 1018 00:47:09,205 --> 00:47:11,725 of the other ancillary roads that's been going very well. 1019 00:47:12,385 --> 00:47:14,565 And obviously we still have three drug stores 1020 00:47:14,565 --> 00:47:16,805 that are vacant, so we need to kind 1021 00:47:16,805 --> 00:47:18,085 of keep working on those. 1022 00:47:18,265 --> 00:47:20,925 One. Looks like there'll be a reuse that's in place, 1023 00:47:20,985 --> 00:47:22,925 but we're keeping an eye on that as well. 1024 00:47:24,435 --> 00:47:26,685 Fire department, obviously they've got a number of 1025 00:47:26,745 --> 00:47:28,125 of items to look at. 1026 00:47:28,315 --> 00:47:30,365 Backfilling that assistant chief position. 1027 00:47:31,015 --> 00:47:32,925 We're looking at dispatch, staffing, 1028 00:47:33,065 --> 00:47:34,205 the restructuring model. 1029 00:47:34,235 --> 00:47:36,285 They're looking to build a new training facility, 1030 00:47:36,905 --> 00:47:39,965 update their strategic plan, address staffing needs, 1031 00:47:39,965 --> 00:47:41,285 particularly with paramedics. 1032 00:47:41,625 --> 00:47:43,725 And then obviously working towards implementing a 1033 00:47:43,725 --> 00:47:44,925 comprehensive training program. 1034 00:47:45,495 --> 00:47:47,725 Human resources, Jack and and, and all. 1035 00:47:47,725 --> 00:47:50,405 We've talked about ways to continue to retain 1036 00:47:50,405 --> 00:47:52,405 and recruit employees and market that. 1037 00:47:53,185 --> 00:47:55,845 Health insurance is definitely a high priority goal. 1038 00:47:55,845 --> 00:47:57,965 We've already had some preliminary discussions 1039 00:47:57,965 --> 00:48:00,965 with Health Trust and looking at some outside brokerage, so 1040 00:48:00,965 --> 00:48:03,165 that's definitely something that's on, you know, my plate. 1041 00:48:03,585 --> 00:48:06,885 And then you do have one contract that is coming due as 1042 00:48:06,905 --> 00:48:08,725 of June 30th, 2027. 1043 00:48:08,825 --> 00:48:11,965 So the patrolmen are out of contract as 1044 00:48:11,965 --> 00:48:13,085 of a year from today. 1045 00:48:13,905 --> 00:48:17,645 The supervisors are congruent with the other five 1046 00:48:17,675 --> 00:48:18,685 that you just approved. 1047 00:48:18,745 --> 00:48:20,645 So there'll be six that will be coming up on 1048 00:48:20,645 --> 00:48:22,245 June 30th, 2029. 1049 00:48:22,305 --> 00:48:24,565 But we do need to address negotiations 1050 00:48:24,645 --> 00:48:26,645 with them coming up in this upcoming year. 1051 00:48:28,275 --> 00:48:30,645 Obviously it, we're gonna be looking at a, 1052 00:48:30,805 --> 00:48:32,525 a future retirement in that department 1053 00:48:32,525 --> 00:48:33,965 and maybe some restructuring there. 1054 00:48:35,725 --> 00:48:37,125 Planning, obviously we're gonna be coming 1055 00:48:37,145 --> 00:48:38,325 to the planning board, I mean 1056 00:48:38,325 --> 00:48:41,485 to the town council on a few changes in the CBD, which might 1057 00:48:42,335 --> 00:48:45,205 spawn some growth in terms of, of some areas 1058 00:48:45,205 --> 00:48:46,605 that have been neglected. 1059 00:48:47,105 --> 00:48:50,085 Police department, obviously we're looking at the rebuild 1060 00:48:50,145 --> 00:48:51,165 or new facility. 1061 00:48:51,565 --> 00:48:53,285 We're gonna continue to look at all those options. 1062 00:48:53,285 --> 00:48:55,165 And obviously access in the interim 1063 00:48:55,165 --> 00:48:57,925 through the four A process in public works. 1064 00:48:58,855 --> 00:49:01,845 We're looking at that. Southern New Hampshire phase two. 1065 00:49:02,455 --> 00:49:05,005 We've had a lot of discussions that there's some interest in 1066 00:49:05,555 --> 00:49:08,205 that kicking up, so I'll be providing some information. 1067 00:49:08,205 --> 00:49:11,765 He's out and moves forward. We're doing some work on the 1068 00:49:12,165 --> 00:49:14,605 engineering design for the rail trail north of Foray. 1069 00:49:14,835 --> 00:49:16,925 Obviously we're underway with the design 1070 00:49:17,145 --> 00:49:19,125 of the Ryans Hill sewer as well. 1071 00:49:19,145 --> 00:49:21,525 So those are projects that are in the pipeline. 1072 00:49:21,945 --> 00:49:23,005 We obviously have to prepare 1073 00:49:23,005 --> 00:49:24,645 for wastewater treatment plan upgrade 1074 00:49:25,225 --> 00:49:27,005 that's probably two to four years out. 1075 00:49:27,905 --> 00:49:29,845 So as you can see there's a lot of things 1076 00:49:29,845 --> 00:49:31,045 that we've accomplished, 1077 00:49:31,145 --> 00:49:32,365 but I think there's a lot of things 1078 00:49:32,365 --> 00:49:33,725 that we can put into that list. 1079 00:49:33,805 --> 00:49:34,965 I think we've had a wonderful year. 1080 00:49:35,225 --> 00:49:37,205 If you look back at where we were a year ago, 1081 00:49:37,625 --> 00:49:39,605 we were just kicking off the water project 1082 00:49:39,715 --> 00:49:40,845 down on Shado Road. 1083 00:49:41,545 --> 00:49:43,245 Abbott Court really hadn't broken ground, 1084 00:49:43,265 --> 00:49:45,725 but we had sold, sold the bond fire station. 1085 00:49:45,785 --> 00:49:46,805 We had not moved in. 1086 00:49:47,625 --> 00:49:50,325 You know, there's a lot of things we had replaced a 1087 00:49:50,325 --> 00:49:52,285 longstanding town administrator 1088 00:49:52,625 --> 00:49:54,965 and we've had a lot of vacancies that we had filled. 1089 00:49:55,025 --> 00:49:57,245 So we've survived. The year I think is is, you know, 1090 00:49:57,245 --> 00:49:58,525 an accurate way to look at that. 1091 00:49:58,705 --> 00:50:00,725 And we have some, you know, obviously a few new faces 1092 00:50:00,795 --> 00:50:02,045 here on the town council. 1093 00:50:02,225 --> 00:50:05,165 So personally I've enjoyed it working with all 1094 00:50:05,165 --> 00:50:07,325 of you in terms of, you know, working towards those goals 1095 00:50:07,325 --> 00:50:08,605 and we're gonna continue to do that. 1096 00:50:08,705 --> 00:50:12,565 So, so out of all of that, what I'm looking to decide, 1097 00:50:12,765 --> 00:50:15,485 I think for purposes of articulating those goals, 1098 00:50:15,585 --> 00:50:17,365 do you want it to set in your top five? 1099 00:50:17,465 --> 00:50:18,685 Do you wanna sit in your top 10 1100 00:50:18,685 --> 00:50:20,485 or do you just want me to take everything 1101 00:50:20,485 --> 00:50:21,725 that's been discussed verbally 1102 00:50:22,145 --> 00:50:25,565 and everything that's been compiled in these submissions 1103 00:50:25,905 --> 00:50:27,205 and put them into one pile? 1104 00:50:27,465 --> 00:50:29,365 It really doesn't matter to me how you wanna do 1105 00:50:29,365 --> 00:50:30,965 It, but I was just looking for some consensus. 1106 00:50:31,845 --> 00:50:33,805 I would like to see it just, we've kind 1107 00:50:33,805 --> 00:50:36,935 of had a discussion, some of the priorities, 1108 00:50:37,035 --> 00:50:39,575 but either one of two things, taking 1109 00:50:39,575 --> 00:50:40,695 what we've talked about tonight 1110 00:50:40,695 --> 00:50:43,555 and kind of doing a kind of backing into 1111 00:50:43,555 --> 00:50:46,235 what we've done for the past couple years. 1112 00:50:46,355 --> 00:50:48,635 Like you can see it on the, there was included in our packet 1113 00:50:48,635 --> 00:50:49,955 that there was almost like a point system. 1114 00:50:49,975 --> 00:50:51,355 Yep. Yeah. How many, how many 1115 00:50:51,355 --> 00:50:52,435 people have this on their list? 1116 00:50:52,495 --> 00:50:53,835 How many people have this on their list? 1117 00:50:55,335 --> 00:50:57,355 And or we could do that and or, 1118 00:50:57,415 --> 00:50:59,955 but I think everything that was said was valid. 1119 00:50:59,955 --> 00:51:00,995 Obviously like we don't have 1120 00:51:00,995 --> 00:51:04,235 to list veterans credits seven times list, 1121 00:51:04,615 --> 00:51:06,835 but kind of pulling together what, what, 1122 00:51:06,835 --> 00:51:08,995 where there's overlap, making them into goals 1123 00:51:09,015 --> 00:51:10,355 and then sending them out to the council 1124 00:51:10,535 --> 00:51:11,675 to rank them ourselves. 1125 00:51:11,705 --> 00:51:13,315 Like what are out of that, the list 1126 00:51:13,315 --> 00:51:15,035 that exists once you put them all together, 1127 00:51:15,195 --> 00:51:19,315 I counted like 20 something of what we roughly submitted, 1128 00:51:19,655 --> 00:51:21,395 but some of those were the same, right? 1129 00:51:21,575 --> 00:51:23,875 So we could kind of put that list together 1130 00:51:23,875 --> 00:51:27,115 and send it out to all of us to, to rank them ourselves 1131 00:51:27,215 --> 00:51:29,355 and then come back with to see how we ranked 'em. 1132 00:51:29,355 --> 00:51:32,035 So I don't know, I think that's the next step is to kind 1133 00:51:32,035 --> 00:51:33,275 of rank and see where we are. 1134 00:51:33,665 --> 00:51:37,755 They can, I know I think what we'll come out with is a bit 1135 00:51:37,755 --> 00:51:40,435 of a long list, but you know, then we can prioritize. 1136 00:51:40,435 --> 00:51:43,075 Like I don't mind leaving something on there that's a low, 1137 00:51:43,335 --> 00:51:45,515 low priority if we get there, we get there. 1138 00:51:46,175 --> 00:51:48,435 But seeing which the priority I think is the big thing for 1139 00:51:48,435 --> 00:51:49,435 Me. 1140 00:51:49,435 --> 00:51:50,235 And I think some of the things on the list 1141 00:51:50,725 --> 00:51:51,955 don't necessarily have to be 1142 00:51:54,565 --> 00:51:56,205 A Goal full council panel at one time. 1143 00:51:56,515 --> 00:52:00,765 They can be some things kind of done offline, you know, 1144 00:52:01,345 --> 00:52:04,125 two, three counselors working in conjunction 1145 00:52:04,195 --> 00:52:05,245 with the town administrator 1146 00:52:05,305 --> 00:52:08,045 and whoever it is that that goal Yeah. 1147 00:52:08,325 --> 00:52:11,365 Addresses and you know, so obviously 1148 00:52:11,595 --> 00:52:12,965 what every counselor says is, 1149 00:52:13,065 --> 00:52:14,685 is important, you know, to them. 1150 00:52:14,685 --> 00:52:16,445 And so it's important, should be important to the counselor 1151 00:52:16,445 --> 00:52:17,805 that we don't take take everything 1152 00:52:17,965 --> 00:52:19,045 consideration and look it all through. 1153 00:52:19,185 --> 00:52:22,165 So, so I think that just my suggestion would be 1154 00:52:22,505 --> 00:52:24,125 to your point, make a list of everything. 1155 00:52:24,145 --> 00:52:27,925 We can rank 'em, but I think everything, whether it's first 1156 00:52:27,985 --> 00:52:32,045 or it's last, should at least be addressed at some point to 1157 00:52:32,505 --> 00:52:35,725 for for fair due process to that council in there. 1158 00:52:36,745 --> 00:52:38,045 If we, if we've got that many, 1159 00:52:38,065 --> 00:52:40,365 why don't we just do something like a top 10 list 1160 00:52:40,665 --> 00:52:42,645 and then everything else, list them 1161 00:52:42,985 --> 00:52:44,725 as ancillary and when we get the list. 1162 00:52:44,725 --> 00:52:46,325 Yeah, I don't think it really matters 1163 00:52:46,835 --> 00:52:48,645 what order the top 10 are in. 1164 00:52:48,695 --> 00:52:49,965 Right. Let's just look at it 1165 00:52:49,965 --> 00:52:52,645 and if we see, if, if, if a couple of us feel very strongly 1166 00:52:52,645 --> 00:52:55,565 that one of the ancillary items should replace one 1167 00:52:55,565 --> 00:52:57,285 of the top 10 lists that, 1168 00:52:57,585 --> 00:53:00,405 and that way, that way we've at least got a manageable list 1169 00:53:00,745 --> 00:53:05,445 to play with and just not try and get to 12 and 14 And Yeah. 1170 00:53:05,705 --> 00:53:07,445 And the ancillary actions can also be, 1171 00:53:07,715 --> 00:53:09,245 I'll call goals of opportunity. 1172 00:53:09,435 --> 00:53:11,725 Yeah, yeah. If the opportunity comes up, 1173 00:53:11,725 --> 00:53:15,725 if the funding comes up, hey, we can address this 1174 00:53:16,105 --> 00:53:19,245 or some of the goals might be relatively straightforward 1175 00:53:19,515 --> 00:53:21,805 with veterans credits, we might be able to satisfy 1176 00:53:22,465 --> 00:53:24,965 before we even come up with our goals. 1177 00:53:25,095 --> 00:53:29,725 Right. And I think to that point as well, that chair, 1178 00:53:29,785 --> 00:53:34,675 you know, you can, you can install a subcommittee on certain 1179 00:53:34,675 --> 00:53:36,995 things, you know, I know years past we did one on the 1180 00:53:37,115 --> 00:53:38,155 veterans credit, you know, 1181 00:53:38,155 --> 00:53:40,115 because the, the, yeah, the combat veterans have non-com 1182 00:53:40,435 --> 00:53:42,195 veterans and you know, 1183 00:53:42,355 --> 00:53:44,235 'cause in the RSAA change at the state level 1184 00:53:44,695 --> 00:53:47,515 for the veterans credits, it was to include all veterans, 1185 00:53:47,535 --> 00:53:48,595 not just the common veterans. 1186 00:53:48,655 --> 00:53:50,155 But that was an opt-in 1187 00:53:50,655 --> 00:53:53,955 and it, it just financially was not feasible to opt in 1188 00:53:53,955 --> 00:53:55,355 because again, like I said earlier tonight, 1189 00:53:55,535 --> 00:53:58,395 we didn't know the delta and that was ever changing of 1190 00:53:58,395 --> 00:54:01,575 who would that in affect and what would that cost burden 1191 00:54:01,575 --> 00:54:04,055 to be to the town, you know, be up and down, up and down 1192 00:54:04,075 --> 00:54:06,815 and how can we sustain that realistically on a tax account. 1193 00:54:07,495 --> 00:54:09,235 But so having said that, I think that 1194 00:54:10,305 --> 00:54:11,805 you in your purview can 1195 00:54:13,595 --> 00:54:15,645 instill subcommittees on certain things 1196 00:54:15,645 --> 00:54:17,365 that do not have a monetary aspect right away, 1197 00:54:17,365 --> 00:54:20,685 but procedural or whatever 1198 00:54:21,145 --> 00:54:23,485 or vetting out, I guess is a good way to put it. So, 1199 00:54:24,255 --> 00:54:27,035 So I think if we maybe took an opportunity to send out 1200 00:54:27,035 --> 00:54:29,795 what we had rank, we can, we can all kind 1201 00:54:29,795 --> 00:54:31,235 of rank them ourselves 1202 00:54:31,535 --> 00:54:35,715 and then kind of see how that shakes out to build a top 10. 1203 00:54:36,375 --> 00:54:39,675 And then we can talk about that maybe is at the seventh. 1204 00:54:40,015 --> 00:54:42,635 Is that reasonable for us to look at a list 1205 00:54:42,735 --> 00:54:44,195 and send that back or, 1206 00:54:44,295 --> 00:54:46,555 or at least come with your rankings 1207 00:54:46,575 --> 00:54:48,235 so we can ideally have it 1208 00:54:48,235 --> 00:54:51,755 before the seventh so we could look at what that is 1209 00:54:51,755 --> 00:54:53,835 and then to council Mill's point say, okay, wait, 1210 00:54:53,875 --> 00:54:55,195 I really don't want this on the ancillary 1211 00:54:55,195 --> 00:54:57,955 or I really don't think this is, you know, should be kind of 1212 00:54:57,955 --> 00:55:00,275 that thing and then we could finalize them. 1213 00:55:01,275 --> 00:55:03,535 Is that doable for the seventh? Is that, is that, yeah, so 1214 00:55:03,535 --> 00:55:05,215 Here, here's What I'll, it's more our response. 1215 00:55:05,455 --> 00:55:06,535 I'll, I'll talk to 1216 00:55:06,535 --> 00:55:10,055 This whole list, get it out to the council via an email 1217 00:55:10,635 --> 00:55:12,575 on Thursday. 1218 00:55:12,845 --> 00:55:15,575 Okay. And then we'll put a hard copy in the packets 1219 00:55:15,575 --> 00:55:17,335 for your meeting for the seventh. 1220 00:55:18,405 --> 00:55:20,025 If you can respond back to me 1221 00:55:20,055 --> 00:55:23,145 with your ordinal 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 1222 00:55:23,305 --> 00:55:24,305 I can compile those 1223 00:55:24,605 --> 00:55:26,825 and then when we convene on the seventh, 1224 00:55:27,905 --> 00:55:29,925 we can look at those if they're not complete. 1225 00:55:30,045 --> 00:55:33,085 I mean ultimately this isn't necessarily something that you 1226 00:55:33,345 --> 00:55:36,445 as a body have to vote on per se. 1227 00:55:36,525 --> 00:55:37,845 I mean, it's good to have consensus, 1228 00:55:37,845 --> 00:55:41,005 but if you've given me your individual votes, we can compile 1229 00:55:41,005 --> 00:55:42,365 that and publish that at any time. 1230 00:55:42,545 --> 00:55:45,305 So it's really up to you. 1231 00:55:45,465 --> 00:55:47,265 I mean, I'd prefer if we had it by the seventh, 1232 00:55:47,325 --> 00:55:50,105 but if it's not gonna be possible, then that can be, 1233 00:55:50,105 --> 00:55:51,345 you know, something at a later date, 1234 00:55:52,495 --> 00:55:55,125 First goal to try to do a bunch seven. 1235 00:55:55,265 --> 00:55:57,365 All right. And if we don't. Then, then, then 1236 00:55:57,815 --> 00:55:59,605 We'll I'll jump right on that first thing 1237 00:55:59,785 --> 00:56:01,085 and get that out. 1238 00:56:02,275 --> 00:56:06,775 I'll remind you. Excellent. Alright. 1239 00:56:07,165 --> 00:56:08,855 Because there are things on the list. 1240 00:56:08,915 --> 00:56:10,455 For instance, the E exit four, 1241 00:56:10,535 --> 00:56:13,975 A exit four A should be about one of the top priority ones. 1242 00:56:14,235 --> 00:56:16,975 But there's not a heck a lot we can do right now. 1243 00:56:16,985 --> 00:56:18,575 We've gotta see how it's developing 1244 00:56:18,715 --> 00:56:20,215 and and things like that. 1245 00:56:20,275 --> 00:56:22,735 So that could be up there but would require 1246 00:56:22,905 --> 00:56:25,525 Little or no management, 1247 00:56:25,785 --> 00:56:27,925 You know, that like there's a task force 1248 00:56:27,945 --> 00:56:30,405 or not task force, a subgroup that's kind 1249 00:56:30,405 --> 00:56:32,805 of looking at those things and just monitoring it, you know, 1250 00:56:32,865 --> 00:56:34,885 or, or whatnot. Yeah, I think that's a good 1251 00:56:34,885 --> 00:56:35,885 Idea. 1252 00:56:35,885 --> 00:56:36,805 Yeah. And the planning board, some of the other, 1253 00:56:37,785 --> 00:56:40,205 all boards in toss do some 1254 00:56:40,205 --> 00:56:42,845 of the heavy lifting on these things too, such as a lot 1255 00:56:42,845 --> 00:56:43,925 of the exit four A stuff 1256 00:56:43,925 --> 00:56:46,405 and housing stuff really is up to the planning board. 1257 00:56:46,865 --> 00:56:49,245 And maybe that's where it is, is that our guidance 1258 00:56:49,305 --> 00:56:51,605 and opinion gets passed down to the different boards. 1259 00:56:54,525 --> 00:56:55,905 You should be in charge of the zoning board. 1260 00:56:57,965 --> 00:56:59,985 Can I just ask a question to the administrator? 1261 00:57:00,205 --> 00:57:01,305 Is the correct response 1262 00:57:01,305 --> 00:57:03,905 To note, is there any updated word on the tunnel 1263 00:57:04,285 --> 00:57:07,425 and where it stands and what's the procedure moving forward 1264 00:57:08,575 --> 00:57:12,025 Meeting That was, I wanna say late May. 1265 00:57:12,325 --> 00:57:15,465 It was right after Memorial Day with the state 1266 00:57:16,085 --> 00:57:18,265 and it was the cultural resources meeting. 1267 00:57:18,565 --> 00:57:22,185 So to kind of put this back into context, one of the hurdles 1268 00:57:22,185 --> 00:57:26,505 and one of the reasons that there was a, an overturn 1269 00:57:26,645 --> 00:57:30,065 of the decision to make an inac grade crossing was the 1270 00:57:30,065 --> 00:57:32,905 impacts on the, the cultural 1271 00:57:32,905 --> 00:57:36,585 and the historic value of the Manchester Lawrence Railroad. 1272 00:57:36,775 --> 00:57:38,865 Okay. And now 1273 00:57:38,865 --> 00:57:43,065 because of that ruling, it's forcing DOT to go back through 1274 00:57:43,065 --> 00:57:46,825 that process to talk about mitigation measures and all that. 1275 00:57:46,885 --> 00:57:50,305 So that's more of a procedural item 1276 00:57:50,855 --> 00:57:53,985 from a design perspective, I've had an a conversation 1277 00:57:53,985 --> 00:57:55,025 with Wendy Johnson. 1278 00:57:55,255 --> 00:57:57,625 They, they are working on a design 1279 00:57:57,765 --> 00:57:59,705 as if everything's gonna work itself through 1280 00:57:59,705 --> 00:58:02,065 that culture resources process, 1281 00:58:02,885 --> 00:58:04,185 but they're not ready to publish 1282 00:58:04,375 --> 00:58:05,625 what that's going to look like. 1283 00:58:05,685 --> 00:58:08,985 So what the pickle the contractor is in right now is they 1284 00:58:08,985 --> 00:58:12,425 can't commit to purchasing any of the construction items. 1285 00:58:12,615 --> 00:58:15,385 They can't go forward with any of the work that's, you know, 1286 00:58:15,745 --> 00:58:17,625 'cause you do it once and then your grade 1287 00:58:17,625 --> 00:58:18,705 changes ever so slightly. 1288 00:58:18,765 --> 00:58:20,385 So that whole area from about 1289 00:58:21,085 --> 00:58:24,385 say American Excavating entrance to the bridge that's being, 1290 00:58:24,485 --> 00:58:26,505 or actually further down by Franklin really 1291 00:58:26,505 --> 00:58:27,585 can't do much work in there. 1292 00:58:27,585 --> 00:58:29,505 So that's why you've noticed recently they've been working 1293 00:58:29,525 --> 00:58:30,985 in front of North High Street 1294 00:58:31,325 --> 00:58:33,265 and then also on the other end of the project 1295 00:58:33,445 --> 00:58:35,385 by the traffic signal at Ross's Corner. 1296 00:58:35,485 --> 00:58:39,505 So I know they've gotta make a decision fairly soon. 1297 00:58:39,535 --> 00:58:42,225 It's going to happen as a tunnel passing under. 1298 00:58:42,445 --> 00:58:45,745 But the specific engineering requirements I don't believe 1299 00:58:45,745 --> 00:58:48,585 have been finalized as of yet by DOT question. 1300 00:58:49,565 --> 00:58:50,615 There's no delays 1301 00:58:50,615 --> 00:58:52,495 to the four A project itself because of this? 1302 00:58:53,035 --> 00:58:57,335 No. As it stands right now, the projected finish date is 1303 00:58:58,425 --> 00:58:59,715 June of 2028. 1304 00:58:59,775 --> 00:59:01,555 And that's what it had been from the beginning. 1305 00:59:01,755 --> 00:59:03,715 'cause there's multiple years of, of phases. 1306 00:59:03,715 --> 00:59:06,195 But remember fa, this contract B takes us as far 1307 00:59:06,195 --> 00:59:07,395 as basically FireEye. 1308 00:59:07,415 --> 00:59:09,235 So there'll be a signal that has 1309 00:59:09,235 --> 00:59:11,875 to go in place at Pinkerton Street and Shani 1310 00:59:12,095 --> 00:59:15,435 and then there'll be a taper, if you will, from two lanes 1311 00:59:15,435 --> 00:59:17,315 to one lane and match into the existing. 1312 00:59:17,575 --> 00:59:19,875 But all that should be done by June of 2028. 1313 00:59:20,175 --> 00:59:23,315 Oh, I know it had been pushed out for funding, 1314 00:59:24,235 --> 00:59:27,055 but I don't know if that got pushed back into funding, 1315 00:59:27,065 --> 00:59:28,295 which is contract C. 1316 00:59:28,735 --> 00:59:31,815 C. Right. So C is a whole different enchilada. 1317 00:59:31,845 --> 00:59:35,055 There's, that's not even going to be bid out 1318 00:59:35,185 --> 00:59:36,775 until 2029 at this point. 1319 00:59:37,075 --> 00:59:39,935 And our expectation of the actual 1320 00:59:40,855 --> 00:59:44,255 construction probably is now between 2030 and 2032. 1321 00:59:44,875 --> 00:59:46,575 So that's from FireEye down to 1322 00:59:46,595 --> 00:59:47,595 1 0 2? 1323 00:59:47,595 --> 00:59:50,375 That is correct. Yep. And that would be the, the signal. 1324 00:59:50,595 --> 00:59:52,815 And that would obviously be all of this, a couple 1325 00:59:52,815 --> 00:59:54,295 of culverts in that area as well. 1326 00:59:54,515 --> 00:59:57,615 But remember, the C contract isn't nearly as intricate 1327 00:59:57,795 --> 00:59:59,455 as far as widening is concerned 1328 00:59:59,455 --> 01:00:02,135 because the section from Irving to the, 1329 01:00:02,315 --> 01:00:05,535 to Route 1 0 2 is basically gonna stay as you see it, 1330 01:00:05,535 --> 01:00:07,175 it's just a one-on-one in each direction. 1331 01:00:07,275 --> 01:00:08,615 Not like Folsom Road 1332 01:00:08,615 --> 01:00:10,495 where there's been a, a massive widening. 1333 01:00:10,495 --> 01:00:11,495 It's not gonna look like that. 1334 01:00:13,855 --> 01:00:17,805 Thank you Meru. Alright, are there any other questions 1335 01:00:17,825 --> 01:00:21,725 or comments before we finish up our goals for the evening? 1336 01:00:22,015 --> 01:00:26,725 We're not totally done but Alright. 1337 01:00:28,105 --> 01:00:32,765 The last item on our agenda is that Pollman has offered 1338 01:00:32,765 --> 01:00:35,405 to give us a tour, but I need to know 1339 01:00:35,465 --> 01:00:37,925 how many counselors are planning to go on this tour 1340 01:00:38,145 --> 01:00:40,085 and whether we need to stay in session or not. 1341 01:00:41,665 --> 01:00:43,045 All right. 1, 2, 3. Okay. 1342 01:00:43,045 --> 01:00:44,845 We will stay in session and we will return 1343 01:00:44,895 --> 01:00:47,925 after we take the tour to adjourn since we are a quorum. 1344 01:00:47,985 --> 01:00:50,965 And we will walk around in our quorum since we're meet baby. 1345 01:00:51,425 --> 01:00:55,125 All right, so we adjourn now 1346 01:00:55,695 --> 01:00:59,405 we've got quorum, but we are a quorum on the tour, 1347 01:00:59,545 --> 01:01:02,245 so we're, yes. 1348 01:01:02,245 --> 01:01:04,325 So we can't adjourn till we come back. So we will just, 1349 01:01:04,345 --> 01:01:05,605 If the quorum has to leave in the 1350 01:01:05,605 --> 01:01:06,685 middle of the tour, we have to come back to 1351 01:01:06,865 --> 01:01:07,865 Yes. 1352 01:01:07,865 --> 01:01:08,245 If we lose quorum during the tour, 1353 01:01:08,245 --> 01:01:09,845 we'll pop back in here and adjourn. 1354 01:01:10,265 --> 01:01:12,725 But his favor, motion. Motion to adjourn. Seconds. 1355 01:01:13,115 --> 01:01:16,605 Read all those in favor? Aye. Both for extensions. 1356 01:01:18,155 --> 01:01:19,205 Have a good night everybody.