1 00:00:01,355 --> 00:00:01,845 Good evening. 2 00:00:02,025 --> 00:00:05,245 I'd like to call July 13th, meeting 3 00:00:05,245 --> 00:00:06,925 of Dairy Conservation Commission Order. 4 00:00:07,705 --> 00:00:10,485 Remind everybody to please silence all cell phones. Oh yeah. 5 00:00:10,665 --> 00:00:12,405 And stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. 6 00:00:15,585 --> 00:00:16,965 Aye. Aye. Pledge Of all allegiance. 7 00:00:16,965 --> 00:00:19,885 Please flag of the United States of America 8 00:00:20,545 --> 00:00:22,725 and to the Republic for which stands. 9 00:00:23,225 --> 00:00:26,645 One Nation under God, indivisible, liberty, 10 00:00:27,145 --> 00:00:28,525 and justice for all. 11 00:00:29,655 --> 00:00:34,005 Thank you. As a reminder, if you're in attendance tonight, 12 00:00:34,005 --> 00:00:37,565 the emergency exits are to my right, your left, 13 00:00:37,665 --> 00:00:38,885 and to the back of the room. 14 00:00:39,945 --> 00:00:42,365 In the event of emergency. Please don't use the elevators. 15 00:00:42,385 --> 00:00:45,085 If you are unable to use the stairs. Please stay seated. 16 00:00:45,185 --> 00:00:46,565 Seated and someone will help you. 17 00:00:48,265 --> 00:00:51,005 I'd like to have the commissioners introduce 18 00:00:51,005 --> 00:00:52,925 themselves from right to left. 19 00:00:56,145 --> 00:00:59,445 Hi, I'm Catherine Arbor, Christopher Morlock, 20 00:00:59,905 --> 00:01:00,905 Jay Res. 21 00:01:01,825 --> 00:01:03,885 Eileen Val. 22 00:01:05,005 --> 00:01:09,205 Val Connolly, Elizabeth Carver, land manager. 23 00:01:09,865 --> 00:01:11,205 And I'm Rick Metz, the vice chair. 24 00:01:11,925 --> 00:01:14,325 I'd like to welcome Catherine Arbor 25 00:01:14,325 --> 00:01:15,525 tonight to her first meeting. 26 00:01:16,305 --> 00:01:18,805 She is now our final alternate. 27 00:01:19,065 --> 00:01:21,405 So we have a full board tonight. 28 00:01:22,425 --> 00:01:26,205 And Cheryl, come on in. 29 00:01:28,375 --> 00:01:30,645 Thank you. Cheryl Holbert is in attendance as well. 30 00:01:31,205 --> 00:01:34,045 So we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 31 00:01:35,505 --> 00:01:38,045 So Pam, would you sit tonight for Bob 32 00:01:39,425 --> 00:01:42,245 and Jay? 33 00:01:42,445 --> 00:01:44,165 I know you have to sit for somebody. 34 00:01:47,095 --> 00:01:48,595 Or Christopher, you have to sit for somebody. 35 00:01:50,275 --> 00:01:52,655 So would you sit tonight as a voting member? Yes. 36 00:01:52,655 --> 00:01:57,415 Alright, so we're good. Seven. 37 00:01:57,915 --> 00:02:02,255 All right. Next I'd like a motion to 38 00:02:02,395 --> 00:02:05,415 for approval of the minutes from June 3rd, 2026. 39 00:02:06,725 --> 00:02:08,135 Everybody has 'em in front of you. 40 00:02:08,445 --> 00:02:10,415 Take a minute if you have any corrections. 41 00:02:12,775 --> 00:02:13,975 I have a couple simple ones. 42 00:02:15,235 --> 00:02:17,135 Bob Sperl has mentioned twice in attendance. 43 00:02:18,215 --> 00:02:19,455 I think there was only one of them here. 44 00:02:22,115 --> 00:02:23,335 And on the last page, 45 00:02:24,675 --> 00:02:26,855 my name has a couple extra E's and some spots. 46 00:02:27,965 --> 00:02:30,815 Yeah. So if that's all we had to worry about, right? 47 00:02:31,125 --> 00:02:32,375 It's not a big deal. Really good, 48 00:02:32,375 --> 00:02:33,375 Right? 49 00:02:33,375 --> 00:02:37,535 Yep. First two spots on that. 50 00:02:39,075 --> 00:02:40,455 Any other additions? Corrections. 51 00:02:42,995 --> 00:02:44,405 Okay, I'll entertain a motion please. 52 00:02:48,305 --> 00:02:49,845 I'm the one that usually makes the motions. 53 00:02:49,845 --> 00:02:51,925 Someone else has to help me here. Motion to 54 00:02:51,925 --> 00:02:52,925 Approve. 55 00:02:53,435 --> 00:02:56,365 Move to approve. Second. Second. Second by Chris. 56 00:02:57,505 --> 00:03:02,085 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? 57 00:03:03,275 --> 00:03:07,645 Alright. Any abstentions? Hearing none unanimous. 58 00:03:10,165 --> 00:03:11,805 I have a few things here. We've got a, 59 00:03:14,285 --> 00:03:17,165 a reminder from SE that the Carris corn 60 00:03:17,745 --> 00:03:21,245 and Doolittle property in Shepherd Park have been protected 61 00:03:21,245 --> 00:03:22,685 for a total of 26 years. 62 00:03:23,595 --> 00:03:24,645 Pass that to the left. 63 00:03:26,265 --> 00:03:28,085 We have a DES notification 64 00:03:29,545 --> 00:03:33,765 for property on 2122 Hamstead Road, alleged violation. 65 00:03:35,665 --> 00:03:38,845 And that letter we'll talk about in non-public, 66 00:03:39,475 --> 00:03:40,565 I'll pass that to Cheryl. 67 00:03:45,705 --> 00:03:48,605 So Val Connolly up 68 00:03:48,605 --> 00:03:50,565 with a new commissioner handbook. Go ahead. 69 00:03:51,235 --> 00:03:56,165 Okay. So unfortunately I did not bring my laptop. 70 00:03:56,625 --> 00:03:58,245 I'm running a little frazzled today, 71 00:03:58,385 --> 00:03:59,725 so I'm, I'm sorry about that. 72 00:03:59,785 --> 00:04:03,325 But I did kind of get a chance to put a glimpse 73 00:04:03,325 --> 00:04:05,525 of it up last time and kind of scroll through it. 74 00:04:05,565 --> 00:04:08,645 I think that was that or the meet the mission 75 00:04:08,705 --> 00:04:10,245 and the vision that we're also included there. 76 00:04:10,245 --> 00:04:11,725 But I know that everyone each had 77 00:04:12,545 --> 00:04:15,485 gotten a copy in the via email or so. 78 00:04:15,485 --> 00:04:17,485 I know it's a lot to kind of look at. 79 00:04:17,865 --> 00:04:20,925 It was pretty intensive, I'd say, 80 00:04:20,925 --> 00:04:23,165 but still at this, at that stage. 81 00:04:24,835 --> 00:04:27,285 Very generic. I know Eileen had given me 82 00:04:27,965 --> 00:04:30,005 some soft pointers right now to make sure 83 00:04:30,105 --> 00:04:32,765 to help it get it tailored directly to kind 84 00:04:32,765 --> 00:04:34,805 of the operations of dairy and things like that. 85 00:04:34,945 --> 00:04:37,245 And I'm looking forward 86 00:04:37,245 --> 00:04:39,365 to getting any further insight when you guys 87 00:04:39,385 --> 00:04:40,405 do have a chance to review. 88 00:04:40,445 --> 00:04:43,445 I know it is a lot. Catherine, I'll get your email 89 00:04:43,505 --> 00:04:45,285 and I'll make sure you get a copy as well. 90 00:04:45,725 --> 00:04:48,045 'cause I'm, that would be another great perspective coming 91 00:04:48,045 --> 00:04:49,365 from a new, new member. 92 00:04:49,865 --> 00:04:51,885 So thank you. 93 00:04:52,235 --> 00:04:55,005 Yeah, a, a big portion of it, which I thought was great, 94 00:04:55,005 --> 00:04:58,205 especially coming at, I mean, I'm not a new member anymore. 95 00:04:58,325 --> 00:04:59,925 I mean, we're all fairly new, 96 00:05:00,025 --> 00:05:04,045 but a lot of it kind of goes over the, 97 00:05:04,185 --> 00:05:06,245 the subcommittees, the roles 98 00:05:06,545 --> 00:05:08,325 of the chairs of those committees. 99 00:05:08,835 --> 00:05:12,485 Just so kind of give an idea rather than just starting day 100 00:05:12,485 --> 00:05:14,125 one and they're saying, Hey, what 101 00:05:14,125 --> 00:05:15,325 committee do you want to go on? 102 00:05:15,325 --> 00:05:17,365 You know, you kind of get a chance to explore, 103 00:05:17,365 --> 00:05:20,525 maybe attend a few is kind of like something that I'm hoping 104 00:05:20,665 --> 00:05:23,245 to, to maybe establish 105 00:05:23,345 --> 00:05:25,285 or provide to the commission for, you know, 106 00:05:25,285 --> 00:05:28,685 like a living document as like a set guidance and rules. 107 00:05:28,745 --> 00:05:30,125 Of course, we do have things 108 00:05:30,145 --> 00:05:32,285 and there was a refactory statement where I kind of tried 109 00:05:32,285 --> 00:05:35,485 to say, you know, hey, obviously our like duties 110 00:05:35,585 --> 00:05:40,085 and things are, and limitations are outlined in law 111 00:05:40,085 --> 00:05:41,285 and regulation and things like that. 112 00:05:41,305 --> 00:05:44,445 But I kind of wanted to have something that kind 113 00:05:44,445 --> 00:05:46,685 of compiled some of those resources. 114 00:05:46,685 --> 00:05:48,725 Another thing I included in there were links to some 115 00:05:48,725 --> 00:05:50,125 of these RSAs and things. 116 00:05:50,245 --> 00:05:52,685 I thought that was really helpful to be able 117 00:05:52,705 --> 00:05:55,565 to just read it word for word, section by section 118 00:05:55,625 --> 00:05:58,325 and kind of understand, rather than just going off of a, 119 00:05:59,085 --> 00:06:01,605 a translated description. 120 00:06:02,185 --> 00:06:04,285 The N-H-A-C-C handbooks are wonderful 121 00:06:04,285 --> 00:06:06,645 and they're great going through them gave a lot 122 00:06:06,645 --> 00:06:09,205 of great ideas and kind of a background as 123 00:06:09,205 --> 00:06:11,005 to conservation commissions of a as a whole. 124 00:06:11,005 --> 00:06:13,765 But I was really hoping, like I was saying, telling Eileen 125 00:06:13,765 --> 00:06:15,845 to, to tailor it to, to dairy. 126 00:06:15,905 --> 00:06:18,445 So I'm looking, we do to what we do specifically in, 127 00:06:18,445 --> 00:06:21,845 in dairy and the kind of ways that we interact in different, 128 00:06:21,905 --> 00:06:24,485 you know, so if anyone had a chance 129 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:26,365 to take a peek at it, I would love to hear. 130 00:06:26,825 --> 00:06:29,645 Any thoughts? A criticism to throw it all my way. 131 00:06:29,645 --> 00:06:31,965 It's, it's, I wanna make sure it's a living document. 132 00:06:31,965 --> 00:06:34,765 We all get a, you know, piece of it and continued. 133 00:06:35,605 --> 00:06:37,245 Val, if you would find it helpful, 134 00:06:37,845 --> 00:06:40,125 I can bring it up if you would like to. 135 00:06:40,225 --> 00:06:42,725 Do you have the I have it right document. Do you want it? 136 00:06:42,945 --> 00:06:44,605 Do you wanna bring it up on the screen? Yeah, sure. 137 00:06:44,605 --> 00:06:46,245 That would, if that's okay, I'll do that right now. 138 00:06:46,465 --> 00:06:48,045 You know, I know Catherine hasn't seen it yet. 139 00:06:48,225 --> 00:06:49,605 You've got time. You're amazing. 140 00:06:49,695 --> 00:06:51,285 Thank you. Oh, you're amazing. 141 00:06:52,245 --> 00:06:55,005 It, I'm just looking up your email. 142 00:07:01,155 --> 00:07:03,325 Yeah, so I think, right, right at 143 00:07:03,325 --> 00:07:06,885 that point when I sent it out, it was like 74 pages. 144 00:07:07,985 --> 00:07:10,205 So that was something else is I was, was hoping to maybe, 145 00:07:11,055 --> 00:07:12,405 maybe condense it a little bit. 146 00:07:12,405 --> 00:07:14,205 Granted, you know, there's a lot that we do 147 00:07:14,205 --> 00:07:16,045 and there's a lot we have to, you know, cover. 148 00:07:16,425 --> 00:07:18,925 But the N-H-A-C-C handbook really is a great resource 149 00:07:18,945 --> 00:07:21,725 and I don't want to reinvent the wheel kind of thing. 150 00:07:21,945 --> 00:07:24,605 So I was trying to have them side by side 151 00:07:24,605 --> 00:07:28,285 and kind of, you know, translate into dairy. 152 00:07:28,425 --> 00:07:29,605 But of course, you know, 153 00:07:29,605 --> 00:07:31,085 I'm still a fairly new commissioner. 154 00:07:31,185 --> 00:07:33,285 So even the things that are said, you know, 155 00:07:33,305 --> 00:07:35,725 the first 90 days, I don't know if anyone saw that part, 156 00:07:36,065 --> 00:07:40,325 but it was like, one of them was understanding conserv, the 157 00:07:41,035 --> 00:07:44,005 flow of conservation funds or the how to, how that works 158 00:07:44,105 --> 00:07:45,125 and where that comes from. 159 00:07:45,345 --> 00:07:47,125 And then I was like, I don't know how to do that. 160 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:49,965 Maybe not every commissioner needs to know how to do that. 161 00:07:49,965 --> 00:07:51,525 And by 90 days 162 00:07:51,585 --> 00:07:53,925 or like, it was like learn it 90 days forward. 163 00:07:53,945 --> 00:07:55,765 You know, some stuff like that where it was like, 164 00:07:55,835 --> 00:07:56,885 just tweak it. 165 00:07:56,915 --> 00:08:00,765 Yeah. Sorry, I'm rambling. My brain is all over the place. 166 00:08:02,595 --> 00:08:04,365 Just if there's, oh yeah, yeah. 167 00:08:04,365 --> 00:08:05,485 If there's a particular place 168 00:08:05,595 --> 00:08:07,165 that you wanna go, just let me know. 169 00:08:07,275 --> 00:08:08,605 This was just something I taught. 170 00:08:08,805 --> 00:08:12,925 I I, I worked with my dad to get this in there just 171 00:08:12,925 --> 00:08:14,125 to really make sure, you know, hey, 172 00:08:14,155 --> 00:08:16,325 this is just a guidance document, a living document. 173 00:08:16,795 --> 00:08:17,885 Obviously there are laws. 174 00:08:17,965 --> 00:08:20,165 I, I feel like that was important if we were gonna kind 175 00:08:20,165 --> 00:08:23,165 of consider this as a, a resource to the commission. 176 00:08:23,245 --> 00:08:24,525 I thought that was an important piece. 177 00:08:25,395 --> 00:08:29,605 Yeah. So to summarize, this page would just be that there, 178 00:08:29,715 --> 00:08:32,165 this is a, a reference handbook. Only 179 00:08:32,225 --> 00:08:33,225 Not, yeah. 180 00:08:33,225 --> 00:08:34,565 Yes. This is a reference companion handbook to 181 00:08:35,245 --> 00:08:37,525 regular already outlined statutes and the 182 00:08:37,725 --> 00:08:39,165 provided N-H-A-C-C handbook. 183 00:08:47,555 --> 00:08:50,565 Okay. So this is kind of the flow of this. 184 00:08:50,645 --> 00:08:53,485 I did follow from the N-H-A-C-C handbook a little bit, 185 00:08:54,345 --> 00:08:56,445 but thinking about how to use the guide 186 00:08:56,545 --> 00:08:59,125 and also some introductory sections 187 00:08:59,715 --> 00:09:02,245 here on the commission within a municipal framework, kind 188 00:09:02,245 --> 00:09:06,045 of understanding where we sit, you know, where that was kind 189 00:09:06,045 --> 00:09:08,365 of part of the thing that, where some funds come from. 190 00:09:08,365 --> 00:09:09,885 But also we interact with other commissions. 191 00:09:10,585 --> 00:09:12,645 We have to work with different departments 192 00:09:12,645 --> 00:09:14,325 and stuff, especially for like monitoring. 193 00:09:14,325 --> 00:09:15,805 We're pulling up documents and things. 194 00:09:18,355 --> 00:09:20,965 Yeah, I wish I had this song in front of me. 195 00:09:22,615 --> 00:09:24,805 These are also some things I, I thought were important. 196 00:09:24,805 --> 00:09:26,405 Community building through conservation. 197 00:09:26,405 --> 00:09:27,925 That's something that I feel like we've really 198 00:09:27,925 --> 00:09:29,005 been trying to ramp up doing. 199 00:09:29,345 --> 00:09:31,085 You know, we've been reaching out through social media. 200 00:09:31,085 --> 00:09:33,485 People are coming to these events, people are connecting. 201 00:09:33,605 --> 00:09:35,245 I met someone, oh, what was his name? 202 00:09:35,425 --> 00:09:37,405 Tim, on the Heritage Commission. Lovely man. 203 00:09:37,465 --> 00:09:38,325 I'm gonna go see him on a 204 00:09:38,325 --> 00:09:39,605 Wednesday some night at the museum. 205 00:09:40,445 --> 00:09:42,605 Things like that. And, and also just highlighting 206 00:09:43,465 --> 00:09:45,645 interdisciplinary skills, shared responsibility. 207 00:09:45,645 --> 00:09:48,365 You know, we have some re conservation commissioners here 208 00:09:48,385 --> 00:09:51,205 who have backgrounds, you know, forest 209 00:09:51,265 --> 00:09:52,845 and lands, things like that, you know, 210 00:09:52,845 --> 00:09:54,645 but some of us don't have those backgrounds. 211 00:09:54,785 --> 00:09:57,005 But the skills that we bring to the table, 212 00:09:57,035 --> 00:09:59,005 even just being a part of our community and, 213 00:09:59,005 --> 00:10:01,045 and having a respect for the things that we protect. 214 00:10:01,345 --> 00:10:03,245 You know, just highlighting that that's an important piece 215 00:10:03,305 --> 00:10:04,485 and, and it's something 216 00:10:04,485 --> 00:10:06,885 that I thought was a welcoming acknowledgement 217 00:10:06,945 --> 00:10:10,565 to commissioners who might be feeling a little unsettled 218 00:10:10,585 --> 00:10:12,205 or uneasy coming into something. 219 00:10:15,225 --> 00:10:17,365 Oh yeah. And these were those drafts, the mission 220 00:10:17,465 --> 00:10:20,525 and guiding statements that we read last time 221 00:10:22,935 --> 00:10:25,675 And we'll, we're planning on reviewing those in more 222 00:10:25,675 --> 00:10:26,875 depth at a future meeting. 223 00:10:27,055 --> 00:10:32,035 Yes, thank you Beth. I 224 00:10:32,035 --> 00:10:33,195 thought this section was helpful. 225 00:10:34,115 --> 00:10:35,235 I know sometimes, you know, 226 00:10:35,695 --> 00:10:37,595 it can be a little gray area if you know, 227 00:10:37,595 --> 00:10:39,115 like your neighbor is getting involved 228 00:10:39,135 --> 00:10:40,355 and they have to go through these things. 229 00:10:40,375 --> 00:10:43,595 So it's kind of understand like outlining some ideas 230 00:10:43,655 --> 00:10:44,795 of conflict of interest 231 00:10:45,415 --> 00:10:49,755 and you know, just acting as we should, you know, 232 00:10:49,935 --> 00:10:51,875 we are protectors of the town's land. 233 00:10:51,975 --> 00:10:53,915 We have these responsibilities and these goals 234 00:10:53,915 --> 00:10:54,995 and we're gonna, you know, 235 00:10:54,995 --> 00:10:56,275 stick to them, that kind of thing. 236 00:11:01,065 --> 00:11:02,355 More of that stuff. Yeah, 237 00:11:02,355 --> 00:11:03,355 That's all that right. 238 00:11:03,385 --> 00:11:06,115 Yeah. This was that first 90 days section 239 00:11:06,115 --> 00:11:07,155 that I was mentioning. 240 00:11:08,055 --> 00:11:10,955 But this was really general. 241 00:11:11,195 --> 00:11:13,435 I did use some other, I was looking at some 242 00:11:13,435 --> 00:11:14,515 of our neighboring commissions 243 00:11:14,735 --> 00:11:17,235 and then maybe some further ones too in their guidebooks 244 00:11:17,235 --> 00:11:19,675 and some things that they reach out 245 00:11:19,675 --> 00:11:20,715 to their commissioners about. 246 00:11:22,845 --> 00:11:25,275 Again, we can definitely change all of this. 247 00:11:27,305 --> 00:11:29,765 And going further, I thought it was pretty nice, 248 00:11:29,785 --> 00:11:33,205 the time commitment, expectations, we all are all volunteers 249 00:11:33,305 --> 00:11:35,125 and it's, it's great that we wanna get involved. 250 00:11:35,245 --> 00:11:37,485 I think it's something that people are worried 251 00:11:37,485 --> 00:11:38,725 that they might not have enough time, 252 00:11:38,785 --> 00:11:41,325 but you know, some of these things, some of the roles, some 253 00:11:41,325 --> 00:11:43,405 of the ways that we can contribute and show up. 254 00:11:44,145 --> 00:11:47,165 It doesn't have to be a full time job kind of thing. 255 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:49,605 You know, just outlining where they may be able 256 00:11:49,605 --> 00:11:51,805 to get involved with the time that they have 257 00:11:52,465 --> 00:11:55,405 and the flux of the seasonal periods also 258 00:11:55,445 --> 00:11:56,485 I thought was important. 259 00:12:00,505 --> 00:12:04,085 Do we, does anybody from 260 00:12:04,085 --> 00:12:06,445 those Yeah. 261 00:12:07,025 --> 00:12:08,405 You know, wanna comment on the hours 262 00:12:08,505 --> 00:12:10,205 or anything like that as far as like 263 00:12:10,205 --> 00:12:12,765 what your experience has been on those different committees? 264 00:12:18,705 --> 00:12:21,325 Myself, personally, reporting compliance one to two hours. 265 00:12:21,385 --> 00:12:25,325 That's I was considering on the ground, like monitoring. 266 00:12:25,505 --> 00:12:27,045 And I think something that's important 267 00:12:28,085 --> 00:12:31,125 considering passing a torch on the next reporting compliance 268 00:12:31,125 --> 00:12:33,845 commissioner should maybe have a little bit more time 269 00:12:33,845 --> 00:12:35,805 to familiarize themselves with the documents. 270 00:12:35,805 --> 00:12:39,925 Don't just allot one to two hours a month 271 00:12:40,545 --> 00:12:42,045 to looking at documents. Maybe 272 00:12:42,045 --> 00:12:43,205 Like a, A startup. 273 00:12:43,475 --> 00:12:45,925 Yeah, a startup time commitment. Yeah. Yeah. 274 00:12:46,385 --> 00:12:48,165 You got it right for the community garden. 275 00:12:48,975 --> 00:12:53,045 Eight to 12 hours during seasonal startup and shutdown. 276 00:12:53,485 --> 00:12:54,485 Yeah. 277 00:12:56,695 --> 00:12:58,005 Start up here like that. 278 00:13:00,225 --> 00:13:01,795 Yeah. If anyone has like looked at this 279 00:13:01,815 --> 00:13:04,195 or sees something, just flag it out. 280 00:13:05,625 --> 00:13:07,955 This is just going into officers and personnel. 281 00:13:08,065 --> 00:13:11,835 They're really just describing, 282 00:13:11,895 --> 00:13:13,115 you know, what they do. 283 00:13:13,135 --> 00:13:16,355 And again, this was, I would love to have perspective 284 00:13:16,455 --> 00:13:18,155 and insight from actual officers 285 00:13:18,175 --> 00:13:19,555 and dairy who have experience. 286 00:13:19,555 --> 00:13:23,515 This is really general and just kind of how they interact 287 00:13:23,515 --> 00:13:24,595 and where they can support each other, 288 00:13:27,125 --> 00:13:32,015 other things gone into, I think later on, 289 00:13:32,015 --> 00:13:34,135 at another point, oh my god, 90 pages. 290 00:13:34,165 --> 00:13:39,055 Holy cow. At another point I basically included like 291 00:13:39,265 --> 00:13:41,215 cover, like cover letters 292 00:13:41,355 --> 00:13:46,295 or like re like the job descriptions for, you know, officers 293 00:13:46,355 --> 00:13:48,455 as well as chairs of committees. 294 00:13:49,295 --> 00:13:51,815 And I had a section also just for alternates. 295 00:13:51,895 --> 00:13:54,695 I thought that that was really nice to kind of, you know, 296 00:13:55,155 --> 00:13:56,935 I'm an alternate, I'm not chairing a board. 297 00:13:57,035 --> 00:13:59,855 How can I support, where do I fit in sitting in, on, on, 298 00:13:59,915 --> 00:14:02,215 on voting for people who are absent? 299 00:14:02,215 --> 00:14:05,175 You know, things like that. I think 300 00:14:05,175 --> 00:14:07,015 that's later on I'm just, it's 90 pages. 301 00:14:08,125 --> 00:14:11,055 Yeah. So alternates could go through 302 00:14:11,055 --> 00:14:12,015 The whole thing. Yeah. We don't have 303 00:14:12,015 --> 00:14:13,055 To go through the whole Yeah, I know. 304 00:14:13,075 --> 00:14:14,075 I'm sorry. Whole thing. 305 00:14:14,855 --> 00:14:17,055 Audience here is gonna become commissioners. Totally. 306 00:14:17,315 --> 00:14:18,315 By the end of this. 307 00:14:19,915 --> 00:14:23,135 I'm, I'm curious from IT here from Eileen 308 00:14:23,745 --> 00:14:26,815 where she thought there were like opportunities 309 00:14:27,035 --> 00:14:29,415 for dairy specific things. 310 00:14:29,735 --> 00:14:30,855 I guess if, if, 311 00:14:31,495 --> 00:14:33,815 I don't know if you had those things in mind or she mentioned as a general 312 00:14:33,815 --> 00:14:35,335 Where she was reading those beginning 313 00:14:35,335 --> 00:14:36,815 statements, like, that's 314 00:14:36,815 --> 00:14:37,815 Good. 315 00:14:37,815 --> 00:14:39,415 We gotta really nitpick this to make sure, I think this 316 00:14:39,415 --> 00:14:42,335 Ways to really, you know, kind of tailor it to us. 317 00:14:44,075 --> 00:14:45,335 So I will provide those comments. 318 00:14:45,955 --> 00:14:47,815 It so hard. It's a huge argument. Yeah. 319 00:14:48,075 --> 00:14:49,815 Not spend a lot of time on the computer right now. 320 00:14:49,995 --> 00:14:50,995 That's fair. 321 00:14:52,865 --> 00:14:55,085 Do you, do you wanna just ask for feedback 322 00:14:55,345 --> 00:14:58,165 or rather than going through all of these then, 323 00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:00,685 or I can keep you. 324 00:15:00,685 --> 00:15:02,085 Tell me. I can keep scrolling. 325 00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:04,405 Oh, I love the land manager section. 326 00:15:05,355 --> 00:15:07,005 This, this draft. Did you see it? 327 00:15:07,985 --> 00:15:10,645 That's so much. Okay, so yeah, so 328 00:15:10,645 --> 00:15:11,925 This was, this file Was a draft. 329 00:15:12,545 --> 00:15:17,365 So everyone I can fill that part out. Yeah. Okay. 330 00:15:20,345 --> 00:15:22,445 We don't have to go through this, this whole thing. 331 00:15:22,485 --> 00:15:25,365 I know. You know, I feel like we've already spent a 332 00:15:25,365 --> 00:15:26,445 good chunk of time on it. 333 00:15:29,835 --> 00:15:32,045 This is something that I hope for next meeting to, 334 00:15:32,105 --> 00:15:34,765 to maybe get some physical copies handed out. 335 00:15:34,765 --> 00:15:35,765 Especially, you know, yeah. Sitting 336 00:15:35,765 --> 00:15:36,685 on the computer might be hard. 337 00:15:36,745 --> 00:15:38,765 It might be nice to hand write these things. 338 00:15:38,765 --> 00:15:40,165 Yeah, I didn't, I'm so sorry. 339 00:15:40,205 --> 00:15:42,365 I did not expect you to have printed out 340 00:15:42,365 --> 00:15:43,565 90 pages for yourselves. 341 00:15:43,745 --> 00:15:46,725 No, but we snuck it in at the end of last meeting too. 342 00:15:46,725 --> 00:15:47,805 That was really exciting. 343 00:15:49,225 --> 00:15:50,325 But yeah, this Is, this is just 344 00:15:50,325 --> 00:15:51,525 something that I thought was really nice. 345 00:15:51,545 --> 00:15:52,965 You know, we're really ramping up speed 346 00:15:52,965 --> 00:15:55,205 and I think it's really important for us 347 00:15:55,265 --> 00:15:57,325 as being those people, you know, being that catalyst, 348 00:15:57,325 --> 00:16:00,405 getting this commission going to lay a foundation, you know, 349 00:16:00,405 --> 00:16:03,845 that way, you know, like thing, you know, time passes on 350 00:16:03,905 --> 00:16:05,485 and new people come through and Right. 351 00:16:05,485 --> 00:16:08,245 We don't wanna leave them trying to, you know, 352 00:16:08,245 --> 00:16:10,165 follow in big footsteps kind of thing. 353 00:16:10,165 --> 00:16:12,325 You know, we wanna keep that going forward. 354 00:16:12,515 --> 00:16:14,285 Keep it on track. Exactly. Yeah. 355 00:16:14,795 --> 00:16:17,245 Totally appreciate your effort. Yes, thank you. I really 356 00:16:17,245 --> 00:16:19,485 Appreciate, appreciate all you've done 357 00:16:19,625 --> 00:16:21,525 and I think it's a great effort 358 00:16:21,625 --> 00:16:23,685 and I think it's, it's very worthwhile 359 00:16:24,945 --> 00:16:29,445 and we have done so, so many wonderful things 360 00:16:30,015 --> 00:16:33,525 since Beth came on board and Val and, 361 00:16:33,745 --> 00:16:35,565 and other members that have come on board. 362 00:16:35,665 --> 00:16:38,085 Jay, you know, I think we're moving in a 363 00:16:38,085 --> 00:16:39,485 really positive direction. 364 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:42,605 You know, we've, we've got really lot of great things 365 00:16:43,565 --> 00:16:46,805 cooking right now and we can even further those 366 00:16:47,075 --> 00:16:50,365 with this handbook if we, you know, all dig in and, 367 00:16:50,385 --> 00:16:53,765 and pay attention to it and use it as a tool. 368 00:16:54,125 --> 00:16:55,725 'cause I think it could be a really positive 369 00:16:55,755 --> 00:16:57,005 good tool moving forward. 370 00:16:59,205 --> 00:17:00,205 Thanks Eileen. 371 00:17:00,205 --> 00:17:02,465 Awesome. Anybody else? 372 00:17:04,685 --> 00:17:07,095 Well done Val. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for your, appreciate 373 00:17:07,095 --> 00:17:08,095 It. 374 00:17:08,095 --> 00:17:08,175 I'll give you a copy. 375 00:17:10,485 --> 00:17:12,255 Okay. I don't break it this time. 376 00:17:12,475 --> 00:17:14,775 You're up next. Thank you Beth for your help with that. 377 00:17:15,375 --> 00:17:18,295 I am right. Oh yeah. Did I 378 00:17:18,295 --> 00:17:19,295 Break? 379 00:17:19,295 --> 00:17:19,935 I'll let you assume you're sorry. 380 00:17:21,775 --> 00:17:24,855 I did. Sorry Owen. 381 00:17:28,005 --> 00:17:31,255 Okay, so 382 00:17:33,275 --> 00:17:34,535 review of the BioBlitz. 383 00:17:35,435 --> 00:17:38,135 It was awesome. Yeah, it was really awesome. 384 00:17:38,515 --> 00:17:43,375 So first of all, thank you to the N-H-A-C-C 385 00:17:44,835 --> 00:17:47,255 and for, you know, for funding this with the grant 386 00:17:47,255 --> 00:17:50,525 that they got and offering this opportunity, you know, 387 00:17:50,525 --> 00:17:51,765 for us to apply to do this. 388 00:17:51,905 --> 00:17:55,885 And thank you to Moose Wood Ecological, Steven Lamond 389 00:17:57,105 --> 00:17:58,765 for, you know, for hosting it. 390 00:17:58,985 --> 00:18:01,645 He was an incredible host. 391 00:18:02,315 --> 00:18:06,125 Everybody who attended just gave rave reviews of, you know, 392 00:18:06,125 --> 00:18:09,845 like how interactive he was, how much knowledge he had, how 393 00:18:10,995 --> 00:18:12,565 just what a good host he was. 394 00:18:13,545 --> 00:18:15,645 So that was really, really great. 395 00:18:16,945 --> 00:18:20,325 We had about 30 people attending throughout the day 396 00:18:20,995 --> 00:18:23,245 over the course of the four, the four different 397 00:18:25,785 --> 00:18:28,845 sex guided tours that they could take. 398 00:18:29,945 --> 00:18:32,965 And Steven said that that was, I'm 399 00:18:32,965 --> 00:18:34,205 so sorry that I broke it again. 400 00:18:34,285 --> 00:18:36,925 I shouldn't, I have to turn this off so that I 401 00:18:37,585 --> 00:18:39,285 am not distracted by the flashing. 402 00:18:41,425 --> 00:18:45,765 So he said that this was the best attended BioBlitz 403 00:18:46,315 --> 00:18:50,245 that he is ever been to or that he's ever helped to host. 404 00:18:50,625 --> 00:18:52,405 So that was extremely encouraging 405 00:18:52,845 --> 00:18:55,765 'cause we did really try to, you know, advertise this 406 00:18:55,825 --> 00:18:57,485 and like get the community out for it 407 00:18:57,485 --> 00:18:59,645 and it was just very encouraging that one, 408 00:18:59,645 --> 00:19:03,525 we had a beautiful day, so it was a great day for it 409 00:19:03,525 --> 00:19:04,565 and I'm sure that that helped 410 00:19:05,545 --> 00:19:09,685 and that people showed up for it. 411 00:19:09,785 --> 00:19:12,445 So thank you to all the community members who showed up. 412 00:19:12,715 --> 00:19:15,325 Like you showing up, just made the day. 413 00:19:16,545 --> 00:19:20,245 We did have a sign in sheet that asked how 414 00:19:20,785 --> 00:19:21,845 did you hear about it? 415 00:19:22,025 --> 00:19:26,605 And the responses included Facebook, a letter that we mailed 416 00:19:26,605 --> 00:19:30,885 to the Abutters, the nature groupie email list. 417 00:19:31,585 --> 00:19:35,045 The Barbara from N-H-A-C-C sent an email out 418 00:19:35,045 --> 00:19:37,525 to other conservation commission members. 419 00:19:39,085 --> 00:19:42,165 A lot of people actually heard about it just from our 420 00:19:42,165 --> 00:19:44,445 meeting, from watching the Dairy 421 00:19:44,445 --> 00:19:45,565 Conservation Commission meeting. 422 00:19:45,625 --> 00:19:46,725 So that's encouraging. 423 00:19:46,795 --> 00:19:51,565 Also, I sent a, an email out to the community gardeners 424 00:19:51,745 --> 00:19:54,125 and we had a few community gardeners show up 425 00:19:54,945 --> 00:19:57,805 and it was in the dairy news as well. 426 00:19:58,525 --> 00:20:00,125 So the dairy news picked up on it 427 00:20:00,225 --> 00:20:03,645 and a few people found out about it through the dairy news. 428 00:20:04,545 --> 00:20:05,125 I'm so sorry, 429 00:20:09,955 --> 00:20:11,405 I'll have to ask them if there's something 430 00:20:11,405 --> 00:20:13,045 that I'm doing wrong so I don't do it again. 431 00:20:15,615 --> 00:20:20,285 Sorry. And a lot of, so the highest, the, 432 00:20:20,505 --> 00:20:24,405 the, the, the thing that brought the most people there was 433 00:20:25,185 --> 00:20:27,325 you all inviting them, right? 434 00:20:27,505 --> 00:20:29,845 So it was from people, from just word of mouth, 435 00:20:29,875 --> 00:20:33,765 from either someone who found out, you know, about it 436 00:20:33,765 --> 00:20:35,685 through another avenue and invited a friend 437 00:20:36,065 --> 00:20:38,565 or from, you know, commissioners inviting people 438 00:20:39,825 --> 00:20:42,525 or you know, so we, you had like your friends 439 00:20:42,545 --> 00:20:44,685 and family showed up and that was great also. 440 00:20:46,825 --> 00:20:48,685 And oh, 441 00:20:48,865 --> 00:20:52,125 and I can't forget the poster at the kiosk also was another 442 00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:53,525 way that we tried to get the word out 443 00:20:53,525 --> 00:20:54,885 and that was another way 444 00:20:54,885 --> 00:20:56,325 that people said they found out about it. 445 00:20:56,945 --> 00:20:58,445 And a couple people who were just walking 446 00:20:58,585 --> 00:21:01,765 by very encouraging conversations with them, you know, 447 00:21:01,765 --> 00:21:03,845 that they would like to get involved in future things like 448 00:21:03,845 --> 00:21:06,565 this, you know, that they couldn't necessarily stay 449 00:21:06,565 --> 00:21:07,925 for the day, but that they would like 450 00:21:07,925 --> 00:21:09,165 to volunteer for future things. 451 00:21:10,025 --> 00:21:14,965 And, and we sent an email out 452 00:21:15,345 --> 00:21:19,725 to everybody who signed up and everybody who signed in. 453 00:21:19,825 --> 00:21:22,125 So not everybody who signed up signed in 454 00:21:22,145 --> 00:21:24,165 and not everybody who signed in signed up. 455 00:21:24,785 --> 00:21:29,325 So everybody, it went out to about 50 people, you know, 456 00:21:29,325 --> 00:21:32,725 just a thank you for attending the BioBlitz, you know, 457 00:21:32,725 --> 00:21:35,525 even if they didn't necessarily, you know, come and sign in 458 00:21:35,545 --> 00:21:36,925 or like for sure attend, 459 00:21:36,945 --> 00:21:38,685 but we just sent a thank you for attending 460 00:21:38,785 --> 00:21:41,245 and would you like to hear about future? 461 00:21:41,825 --> 00:21:43,645 You know, or would you not like to, 462 00:21:43,905 --> 00:21:45,285 it was phrased would you not like 463 00:21:45,285 --> 00:21:46,685 to hear about future events? 464 00:21:47,225 --> 00:21:49,085 And we didn't get any responses back saying 465 00:21:49,085 --> 00:21:50,845 that they would not like to hear about future events. 466 00:21:51,065 --> 00:21:53,365 So we'll be able to reach out to them 467 00:21:54,085 --> 00:21:55,445 about our future things 468 00:21:56,285 --> 00:21:59,325 because it was such a nice day Dairy Cam was able to attend. 469 00:21:59,545 --> 00:22:01,845 So thank you Dairy cam. 470 00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:04,965 They were there and they got excellent, some great footage. 471 00:22:05,415 --> 00:22:07,725 We're really excited to, to be able to see it 472 00:22:07,725 --> 00:22:08,725 and see what they do with it. 473 00:22:08,915 --> 00:22:11,845 They did some interviews of people who came. 474 00:22:12,925 --> 00:22:16,245 I gave an interview. I know Steven had an interview 475 00:22:16,265 --> 00:22:19,045 as well, so that's great. 476 00:22:19,425 --> 00:22:23,605 And then Steven sent, I'm gonna send this around for you all 477 00:22:23,605 --> 00:22:25,045 to look at your leisure, 478 00:22:27,545 --> 00:22:30,925 but Steven sent a report just earlier this morning 479 00:22:32,405 --> 00:22:33,685 highlighting, you know, 480 00:22:33,685 --> 00:22:35,605 some different things throughout the day. 481 00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:39,445 So one was, you know, prior to the event, 482 00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:44,085 25 contributors had submitted 1,168 iNaturalist 483 00:22:44,085 --> 00:22:48,565 observation representing 329 species at the property. 484 00:22:49,105 --> 00:22:51,805 And during the BioBlitz 16 participants recorded 485 00:22:52,615 --> 00:22:57,525 735 observations in just nine hours, an average 486 00:22:57,585 --> 00:22:59,325 of more than one observation every minute. 487 00:23:02,345 --> 00:23:05,085 And these efforts increase the total number of observations 488 00:23:05,505 --> 00:23:08,245 for Broadview farm by 63%. 489 00:23:09,505 --> 00:23:13,205 So now there are 543 species 490 00:23:13,395 --> 00:23:15,285 that have been documented at Broadview. 491 00:23:15,625 --> 00:23:17,445 So that's very exciting. Yep. 492 00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:21,405 And he noted that one 493 00:23:21,405 --> 00:23:24,405 of the most frequently documented species was the Baltimore 494 00:23:24,405 --> 00:23:25,525 checkered spot butterfly. 495 00:23:25,825 --> 00:23:28,285 And that Broadview farm has become one of the premier 496 00:23:28,885 --> 00:23:31,405 locations in Rockingham County to observe them. 497 00:23:31,985 --> 00:23:33,165 So that's also, you know, 498 00:23:33,205 --> 00:23:34,685 a good thing that came out of this. 499 00:23:36,855 --> 00:23:40,125 There were five wildlife species of, 500 00:23:40,265 --> 00:23:43,245 or wildlife species of greatest conservation need 501 00:23:43,705 --> 00:23:46,845 as identified in New Hampshire's 2025 state 502 00:23:47,245 --> 00:23:48,485 wildlife action plan. 503 00:23:48,985 --> 00:23:52,005 So those are the monarch butterfly, common grackle, 504 00:23:52,195 --> 00:23:55,125 tree swallow, American kestrel and wood thrush. 505 00:23:56,385 --> 00:24:01,085 And then he gave us a list here of some, 506 00:24:03,475 --> 00:24:08,125 some invertebrates that have only ever been documented at 507 00:24:09,255 --> 00:24:12,005 fewer than 10 other locations in New Hampshire. 508 00:24:12,065 --> 00:24:14,485 So these are not rare necessarily, 509 00:24:14,785 --> 00:24:16,845 but they're not, you know, 510 00:24:16,845 --> 00:24:18,085 they're not gonna be found everywhere. 511 00:24:18,185 --> 00:24:23,165 So, and I believe there was one more thing from his letter 512 00:24:23,165 --> 00:24:24,085 that I wanted to, 513 00:24:28,125 --> 00:24:28,415 Nope. 514 00:24:28,595 --> 00:24:32,535 Yep, that was it. So that's, you know, that's kind 515 00:24:32,535 --> 00:24:34,415 of his update after the fact. 516 00:24:34,435 --> 00:24:37,255 So he's had a chance to go through all of that data and, 517 00:24:39,755 --> 00:24:44,535 and we have a follow up for the BioBlitz scheduled for, 518 00:24:44,645 --> 00:24:46,575 well sort of, we have two follow ups. 519 00:24:46,755 --> 00:24:50,815 So on August 22nd, a Saturday 520 00:24:52,035 --> 00:24:54,935 we, the Land maintenance committee will be updating the 521 00:24:54,935 --> 00:24:56,055 Broadview kiosk. 522 00:24:56,435 --> 00:24:59,495 So we'll be taking some of the information 523 00:25:00,245 --> 00:25:03,615 that was gained from this BioBlitz as well as some 524 00:25:03,615 --> 00:25:05,055 of the history and some other things. 525 00:25:05,055 --> 00:25:06,695 We'll have a visioning session of what 526 00:25:06,695 --> 00:25:07,735 that exactly will look like. 527 00:25:08,035 --> 00:25:10,175 But we'll update the kiosk at Broadview, 528 00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:12,215 which is relatively bare right now. 529 00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:14,615 So we're, you know, they'll have be lots 530 00:25:14,615 --> 00:25:17,375 of interesting things for people to look at when, you know, 531 00:25:17,575 --> 00:25:19,375 certainly include things about the community garden 532 00:25:19,595 --> 00:25:20,775 and you know, everything like that. 533 00:25:21,995 --> 00:25:23,495 And that's August 22nd. 534 00:25:23,915 --> 00:25:27,775 And then on September 18th at 4:00 PM 535 00:25:28,645 --> 00:25:32,775 Matt Tar with the UNH extension will be giving a guided 536 00:25:32,845 --> 00:25:33,975 hike at Broadview. 537 00:25:34,835 --> 00:25:35,935 And so that will be kind 538 00:25:36,135 --> 00:25:38,215 of another follow up at broad view to this event. 539 00:25:39,645 --> 00:25:41,775 That is all for the BioBlitz recap. 540 00:25:43,225 --> 00:25:45,455 Thank you Beth. I appreciate your efforts for that. 541 00:25:45,755 --> 00:25:47,695 Yes, thanks to Dairy Cam also 542 00:25:47,695 --> 00:25:48,935 for being there to document it. 543 00:25:49,725 --> 00:25:50,975 They'll be going through the footage 544 00:25:51,835 --> 00:25:55,055 and posting some of the things that happened that day. 545 00:25:55,595 --> 00:25:58,775 And thanks to any commissioners who were able to, excuse me, 546 00:25:58,775 --> 00:26:00,015 able to be there that day as well. 547 00:26:01,505 --> 00:26:04,855 Thank you again. Beth Jay, community Garden. 548 00:26:07,315 --> 00:26:08,495 I'm in my glory right now. 549 00:26:10,645 --> 00:26:14,055 Yeah, all those eight to 12 hours in the spring. 550 00:26:14,085 --> 00:26:17,975 Well it was a lot more, but the results of the added manure 551 00:26:17,975 --> 00:26:21,815 and fertilizer that was put into the 552 00:26:22,555 --> 00:26:23,415 garden during 553 00:26:24,475 --> 00:26:27,615 May, 2026 was very evident. 554 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:32,295 Now it includes very prolific weed growth, 555 00:26:32,915 --> 00:26:37,415 but the plants are beating the vegetables, are beating the, 556 00:26:37,515 --> 00:26:41,495 the weeds and actually providing a little bit of shade. 557 00:26:42,795 --> 00:26:44,925 The gar our gardeners have to get out there and, 558 00:26:44,985 --> 00:26:47,645 and fight the good fight or it will get overrun. 559 00:26:47,745 --> 00:26:50,525 But the vegetables are outstanding. 560 00:26:52,275 --> 00:26:55,605 They are, this manure 561 00:26:55,605 --> 00:26:57,365 and fertilizer should provide a two 562 00:26:57,365 --> 00:27:01,525 or three year boost to the garden soils, including increased 563 00:27:04,555 --> 00:27:09,085 organic matter should double the percentage that it was 564 00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:14,925 expected to be 8%, it was two to four. 565 00:27:15,585 --> 00:27:18,085 But I took a sample of my neighbor's 566 00:27:18,985 --> 00:27:21,765 garden soil who's been putting in that manure 567 00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:26,245 that went into our garden from his cows and, 568 00:27:26,785 --> 00:27:27,325 and he has 569 00:27:27,325 --> 00:27:32,325 8% organic manner. 570 00:27:32,385 --> 00:27:37,365 So expect a, a boost for quite a while from that, including 571 00:27:38,885 --> 00:27:42,245 however we need to tell our gardeners to put in a, some kind 572 00:27:42,245 --> 00:27:45,245 of form of liquid fertilizer for July 573 00:27:45,265 --> 00:27:46,925 and August at least once. 574 00:27:47,705 --> 00:27:50,685 We should probably do an email on to them for that. 575 00:27:51,105 --> 00:27:55,205 And that was part of the soil soil analysis recommendations. 576 00:27:56,985 --> 00:27:59,805 So we'll also be having a meeting soon 577 00:27:59,805 --> 00:28:04,165 with our gardening subcommittee in early August, probably 578 00:28:04,225 --> 00:28:07,285 for planning our September harvest event 579 00:28:08,015 --> 00:28:12,885 where we wanna bring our gardeners together to enjoy the, 580 00:28:13,945 --> 00:28:15,005 the fruit of the labor. 581 00:28:15,925 --> 00:28:18,405 Not, we haven't had any details exactly 582 00:28:18,475 --> 00:28:21,285 what we're gonna be doing, but we'll get together 583 00:28:21,465 --> 00:28:24,485 and share what we have, share the bounty 584 00:28:24,485 --> 00:28:26,925 and have some good food I'm sure. 585 00:28:28,425 --> 00:28:29,965 So we'll have more details on that. 586 00:28:33,105 --> 00:28:34,325 And that's it for now. 587 00:28:34,705 --> 00:28:36,285 And I, by the way, I do want 588 00:28:36,285 --> 00:28:39,205 to talk about the Broadview annex update 589 00:28:40,115 --> 00:28:42,005 when its other business later on. 590 00:28:42,315 --> 00:28:45,925 Okay. Thank you Jay. I drove by there the other day. 591 00:28:46,205 --> 00:28:47,605 I was out on a mission for the commission 592 00:28:47,625 --> 00:28:50,045 and I stopped parked in a parking lot. 593 00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:51,205 I was a couple gardeners out there 594 00:28:51,305 --> 00:28:53,485 and the plants were seven, eight feet tall. 595 00:28:53,505 --> 00:28:55,605 It looked, it looked really good. So, wow. 596 00:28:56,555 --> 00:28:58,325 Well done. Good job with the gardeners. 597 00:28:58,645 --> 00:29:00,725 Absolutely. The vegetables are fantastic. 598 00:29:01,205 --> 00:29:04,605 They, they were a little crinkled up messes 599 00:29:04,605 --> 00:29:05,805 after the heat waves 600 00:29:05,805 --> 00:29:08,325 and just, they never caught on in my garden plot. 601 00:29:08,505 --> 00:29:13,085 But I now have Swiss Chards about two and a half feet tall. 602 00:29:13,505 --> 00:29:14,965 Wow. I'm gonna have it for the rest 603 00:29:14,965 --> 00:29:16,805 of the summer. Wow. It's great. 604 00:29:16,975 --> 00:29:18,165 Kinda like zucchini, right? 605 00:29:18,865 --> 00:29:22,085 We have it for the rest of the summer personnel. 606 00:29:22,085 --> 00:29:26,245 That's me, chairman bga 607 00:29:26,245 --> 00:29:29,245 and I will get together end of August, 1st of September 608 00:29:30,245 --> 00:29:32,165 because Beth is due for her annual review 609 00:29:32,225 --> 00:29:34,125 and Tammy is due for her first review. 610 00:29:34,965 --> 00:29:38,125 'cause you've never had one. So we'll get together, look 611 00:29:38,125 --> 00:29:39,245 for that coming in September. 612 00:29:40,925 --> 00:29:42,205 Cheryl, public outreach. 613 00:29:43,595 --> 00:29:46,285 Yeah, well as you know, as, as we heard from Beth, 614 00:29:46,675 --> 00:29:49,485 that is the fruit, that is the fruit of public outreach. 615 00:29:49,545 --> 00:29:51,525 And Beth, really kudos to Beth 616 00:29:51,825 --> 00:29:53,445 and to Linda who is not here tonight. 617 00:29:53,765 --> 00:29:55,965 I'm sure she's baking, which I should be 618 00:29:55,965 --> 00:29:57,965 doing for the farmer's market. 619 00:29:58,105 --> 00:30:01,445 But the, it was really outstanding. 620 00:30:01,685 --> 00:30:02,965 I mean I've worked with promotional, 621 00:30:03,945 --> 00:30:05,685 the your beautiful graphic 622 00:30:06,075 --> 00:30:07,565 posters, they were all around town. 623 00:30:07,565 --> 00:30:08,885 There's that visual as well. 624 00:30:09,385 --> 00:30:11,085 And as you can see, we have very 625 00:30:11,085 --> 00:30:12,525 successful event because of that. 626 00:30:13,545 --> 00:30:15,045 And we are looking forward to 627 00:30:16,105 --> 00:30:19,205 the dairy farmer's market on August 12th. 628 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:22,045 We're going to be meeting very, very soon for our strategy. 629 00:30:22,105 --> 00:30:25,445 We had some ideas for some more children related things 630 00:30:25,445 --> 00:30:27,445 because there are families there and puppies 631 00:30:27,445 --> 00:30:30,085 and all kinds of fun participants. 632 00:30:30,785 --> 00:30:32,525 And, and at that meeting we'll begin, 633 00:30:32,525 --> 00:30:35,885 we're really gonna focus on the August 12th and, 634 00:30:36,545 --> 00:30:38,085 and then start talking about Dairy Fest. 635 00:30:38,105 --> 00:30:40,965 So again, if any commissioners have any ideas, anything 636 00:30:40,965 --> 00:30:43,285 that's worked in the past, please feel free 637 00:30:43,385 --> 00:30:45,245 to send the email my way 638 00:30:46,025 --> 00:30:48,245 and that way we can discuss it at the meeting. Thanks. 639 00:30:48,695 --> 00:30:51,645 Thank you Cheryl TRCs. 640 00:30:51,645 --> 00:30:53,325 There were some schedule, but we didn't have any, 641 00:30:53,705 --> 00:30:55,285 any purview over them. 642 00:30:55,425 --> 00:30:56,805 So I did not attend them. 643 00:30:58,165 --> 00:31:00,525 I haven't gotten any notices for this week or the next week. 644 00:31:00,665 --> 00:31:02,925 So I'll keep you posted when I do that 645 00:31:02,925 --> 00:31:04,485 and I'll keep you posted as well, Beth. 646 00:31:05,015 --> 00:31:08,085 Thank you. State compliance, Eileen what 647 00:31:08,085 --> 00:31:10,885 Got, okay, I just have one announcement and that would be, 648 00:31:11,825 --> 00:31:15,885 and HACC sent this out to, I think all commissioners 649 00:31:15,955 --> 00:31:19,205 that have an email address with N-H-A-C-C. 650 00:31:19,205 --> 00:31:22,165 If you've registered with them about a zoom meeting 651 00:31:22,235 --> 00:31:24,565 that DES is holding on 652 00:31:26,165 --> 00:31:27,285 wetlands rule changes. 653 00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:30,965 It will be at noon, 12 noon, it's just an hour meeting, 654 00:31:31,105 --> 00:31:33,325 but it will go over the wetlands rule changes 655 00:31:33,795 --> 00:31:37,165 that are being proposed and it will allow input. 656 00:31:38,205 --> 00:31:39,405 I registered for that meeting. 657 00:31:39,505 --> 00:31:41,725 If you want to attend, you need to register. 658 00:31:42,405 --> 00:31:45,645 I sent the announcement to Beth so you could maybe send, 659 00:31:45,645 --> 00:31:48,085 you want me to send out to everybody and there's a register 660 00:31:48,085 --> 00:31:50,405 button, you just press on the IT and it's free. 661 00:31:50,545 --> 00:31:52,965 You know, you can register and attend that. So 662 00:31:53,145 --> 00:31:54,885 You said it's noon? What's the date, Eileen? 663 00:31:55,235 --> 00:31:58,885 It's Wednesday. June 15th. It's this Wednesday, yeah. 664 00:31:58,905 --> 00:32:01,565 Oh, tomorrow, I mean July. I'm sorry, July. 665 00:32:03,165 --> 00:32:06,045 I wrote it down wrong. July 15th. Sorry about that 666 00:32:06,675 --> 00:32:07,675 Turn. 667 00:32:08,675 --> 00:32:13,085 Okay, that's all I have. Let's see. Mr. Bga, ISS not here. 668 00:32:13,365 --> 00:32:16,885 Property management. Bob is not here. Mr. 669 00:32:16,945 --> 00:32:19,405 Big bga iss not here. Val. Reporting compliance. 670 00:32:20,065 --> 00:32:23,845 All righty. All right. 671 00:32:24,025 --> 00:32:26,805 So going backwards here. 672 00:32:28,185 --> 00:32:30,645 Sam Harford over at Celt 673 00:32:31,005 --> 00:32:32,725 and I were able to walk the Doolittle property. 674 00:32:32,885 --> 00:32:34,285 I may have covered this at the last, 675 00:32:34,425 --> 00:32:35,445 no, it was just before then. 676 00:32:36,305 --> 00:32:38,045 We did walk at the property. Things looked fine. 677 00:32:38,265 --> 00:32:39,685 One of the maps that he had, some 678 00:32:39,685 --> 00:32:41,685 of the trails looked like they may not have 679 00:32:41,715 --> 00:32:43,845 been up to date anymore. 680 00:32:43,865 --> 00:32:45,285 So that was something that we were talking about. 681 00:32:45,305 --> 00:32:46,645 And then, you know, we have maps 682 00:32:46,645 --> 00:32:47,885 and trails in the mine, so I 683 00:32:47,885 --> 00:32:48,965 said, you know, pass that along. 684 00:32:49,805 --> 00:32:52,085 And he's doing also Cornelius and he 685 00:32:52,085 --> 00:32:53,085 and I did Cornelius in last year 686 00:32:53,085 --> 00:32:55,045 and it's due, so we were gonna schedule another date. 687 00:32:55,605 --> 00:32:59,325 I sent out an email to the reporting compliance team just 688 00:32:59,325 --> 00:33:01,325 to see if you guys wanted to coordinate on those dates. 689 00:33:02,305 --> 00:33:04,565 But I understand it's super busy work schedule. 690 00:33:05,805 --> 00:33:07,925 I was lucky enough for that one that I did go on 691 00:33:07,925 --> 00:33:10,005 where I wasn't working at that on that day. 692 00:33:10,105 --> 00:33:12,845 So, and then there's another one that he is referring to 693 00:33:12,845 --> 00:33:14,325 as the Hanson Care Aveta property. 694 00:33:14,485 --> 00:33:17,765 I noticed that a few of the properties had some names. 695 00:33:18,275 --> 00:33:19,765 Some of our names were a little bit switched, 696 00:33:20,065 --> 00:33:22,765 so I was gonna talk, compare some of the documents 697 00:33:22,765 --> 00:33:24,645 that they have, make sure that the properties were right 698 00:33:24,665 --> 00:33:27,645 and then see what, you know, clarifying those corrections. 699 00:33:28,945 --> 00:33:30,845 So that's going on with SE and those properties. 700 00:33:31,555 --> 00:33:33,405 Something that I was working with with Bob, 701 00:33:33,785 --> 00:33:35,765 the Martin farm property, the one 702 00:33:35,765 --> 00:33:39,045 that we did the 2025 makeup in March 703 00:33:39,045 --> 00:33:40,165 under three feet of snow. 704 00:33:40,785 --> 00:33:43,925 We did the, yeah, so we had a better monitoring walk. 705 00:33:43,945 --> 00:33:45,885 We were, I was able to be accompanied by Bob. 706 00:33:46,035 --> 00:33:48,005 He's always a great resource. Everyone knows that. 707 00:33:48,145 --> 00:33:49,925 And then Sam over from Fish 708 00:33:49,925 --> 00:33:53,125 and Game, she has some great insight about some signage 709 00:33:53,165 --> 00:33:55,645 issues we had about the allowance of people. 710 00:33:55,715 --> 00:33:57,245 It's listed as no trespassing, 711 00:33:57,245 --> 00:34:00,285 but it has to do with harvest seasons and moving of cattle. 712 00:34:00,385 --> 00:34:01,485 So we're gonna work with them. 713 00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:05,685 We found out that Martin Farm was bought out 714 00:34:05,685 --> 00:34:07,165 by JNFA few years ago. 715 00:34:07,345 --> 00:34:09,445 So I'm supposed to contact Fernando. 716 00:34:09,625 --> 00:34:12,045 So I would love a updated contact. 717 00:34:12,135 --> 00:34:14,205 Maybe it's Melissa, I, Bob had said 718 00:34:15,365 --> 00:34:17,765 I would love an updated contact also. We'll work on that. 719 00:34:17,765 --> 00:34:18,925 Oh, okay. Yeah. Awesome. 720 00:34:19,985 --> 00:34:22,285 But yeah, so I have a, a connection with Fish and Game. 721 00:34:22,405 --> 00:34:24,885 I have a draft going for a physical letter to go 722 00:34:24,885 --> 00:34:26,285 to the address and then once we get me 723 00:34:26,525 --> 00:34:27,725 possibly an email, that would be great. 724 00:34:27,785 --> 00:34:30,685 And she's gonna help me look that over, make sure things 725 00:34:31,265 --> 00:34:32,925 are tightened up in accordance 726 00:34:32,925 --> 00:34:34,405 with what's allowed in the de. 727 00:34:34,585 --> 00:34:37,165 So that's all I have for reporting compliance. 728 00:34:37,635 --> 00:34:40,645 Okay. Thank you. Keep going with the net zero task force. 729 00:34:41,065 --> 00:34:44,325 Net zero. Actually we have not met since the last meeting. 730 00:34:44,345 --> 00:34:47,125 We will be meeting this upcoming Thursday 6:00 PM on the 731 00:34:47,125 --> 00:34:48,965 second floor if anyone like to join us. 732 00:34:49,835 --> 00:34:53,685 Okay. And council liaison's not here so we can skip over. 733 00:34:53,685 --> 00:34:56,045 That brings us back to you, Beth. 734 00:34:56,355 --> 00:35:01,165 Okay, all ready. All right. 735 00:35:01,225 --> 00:35:05,085 So the CWPP is in very good shape. 736 00:35:05,225 --> 00:35:09,685 So the draft that the core team that Val is on as well 737 00:35:10,915 --> 00:35:14,085 completed was sent out to the fire chief, 738 00:35:14,585 --> 00:35:17,445 the DPW director, planning board director, 739 00:35:17,675 --> 00:35:22,085 town administrator, fire department dispatch, personnel, 740 00:35:23,005 --> 00:35:27,285 the IT GGIS director, the dairy cam director, 741 00:35:27,465 --> 00:35:29,085 and the conservation commission chair. 742 00:35:29,505 --> 00:35:33,045 And all of those parties have reviewed the draft 743 00:35:33,225 --> 00:35:34,445 and sent in a memo. 744 00:35:34,985 --> 00:35:38,205 So the next step is that the core team will review each 745 00:35:38,205 --> 00:35:41,125 of those memos and incorporate the suggestions. 746 00:35:42,105 --> 00:35:45,205 And then there'll be another draft, you know, sent out just 747 00:35:45,205 --> 00:35:47,045 to make sure like, hey, these are the changes 748 00:35:47,045 --> 00:35:49,085 that we made per, per your memo. 749 00:35:50,105 --> 00:35:54,125 And then, you know, get the okay from them for, you know, 750 00:35:54,265 --> 00:35:55,845 our, our 2.0 draft. 751 00:35:55,865 --> 00:35:58,725 And then I should be very close to going to town council. 752 00:36:02,815 --> 00:36:05,275 So with Broadview, 753 00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:10,195 as you may or may not know, I think we've talked about 754 00:36:10,195 --> 00:36:11,675 before, the deed covenant 755 00:36:11,745 --> 00:36:13,835 that was put in place when Broadview was 756 00:36:14,035 --> 00:36:15,195 purchased has expired. 757 00:36:15,975 --> 00:36:19,995 So broad view, one of the ways 758 00:36:20,065 --> 00:36:24,435 that conservation properties can be protected is if they are 759 00:36:24,435 --> 00:36:28,675 purchased with conservation funds, then that provides sort 760 00:36:28,675 --> 00:36:30,515 of an automatic level of protection 761 00:36:30,515 --> 00:36:33,755 because, you know, it's purchased with conservation funds, 762 00:36:34,695 --> 00:36:36,355 that's what those funds are for. 763 00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,515 So they don't really want it to be purchased 764 00:36:38,515 --> 00:36:40,555 with conservation funds and then turned into something 765 00:36:40,555 --> 00:36:41,595 that's not conservation. 766 00:36:42,535 --> 00:36:44,755 So Broadview was actually not purchased 767 00:36:44,755 --> 00:36:45,835 with conservation funds. 768 00:36:47,015 --> 00:36:49,475 It was purchased using broad bond proceeds. 769 00:36:49,575 --> 00:36:54,115 So there is no protection currently on broad view, you know, 770 00:36:54,115 --> 00:36:57,475 besides you all sitting in these seats preventing it from, 771 00:36:57,575 --> 00:36:59,875 you know, becoming something other than conservation land. 772 00:37:00,695 --> 00:37:04,595 So the options for getting some conservation protection on 773 00:37:04,595 --> 00:37:06,115 it are renewing the deed covenant, 774 00:37:07,365 --> 00:37:09,675 which we can renew the deed covenant 775 00:37:10,055 --> 00:37:12,115 and not include an expiration date. 776 00:37:13,135 --> 00:37:17,755 And that would require, you know, the town lawyer 777 00:37:17,975 --> 00:37:22,635 to write up a, a a a deed, 778 00:37:22,795 --> 00:37:26,075 a declaration of conservation restrictive covenants 779 00:37:26,315 --> 00:37:29,155 or something that the lawyer would know 780 00:37:29,475 --> 00:37:30,715 specifically right about that. 781 00:37:31,735 --> 00:37:33,875 And then another option would be 782 00:37:33,875 --> 00:37:36,395 to place a conservation easement on the property 783 00:37:36,745 --> 00:37:39,435 through a qualified entity like salt or el chip 784 00:37:39,535 --> 00:37:42,795 or rockham conservation marking Ham County Conservation 785 00:37:43,035 --> 00:37:47,475 District, which can be costly to do that 786 00:37:47,475 --> 00:37:49,275 because you have to pay those entities 787 00:37:49,495 --> 00:37:51,995 to do all the work involved in taking on 788 00:37:52,115 --> 00:37:53,195 a conservation easement. 789 00:37:54,575 --> 00:37:58,995 So in discussing this with Chairman Bazinga, he had asked me 790 00:37:59,095 --> 00:38:03,195 to write up a draft of what a new 791 00:38:03,785 --> 00:38:05,115 deed covenant might look like 792 00:38:05,355 --> 00:38:08,195 because that seemed to be the most straightforward way. 793 00:38:08,375 --> 00:38:13,035 And so we're presenting that to you tonight just as a, 794 00:38:14,855 --> 00:38:18,915 you know, just for you to take under advisement to look at. 795 00:38:18,975 --> 00:38:21,035 And so I'll pass these, I have three copies of it 796 00:38:21,695 --> 00:38:24,835 and if you would like, I can email, 797 00:38:26,155 --> 00:38:27,715 I can email everyone a copy. 798 00:38:30,495 --> 00:38:35,325 And that is, that, is 799 00:38:35,325 --> 00:38:38,245 that, so you can take a look at it now if you would like, 800 00:38:42,985 --> 00:38:45,565 and then we'll discuss that at a future meeting. 801 00:38:49,065 --> 00:38:52,605 Did you, did you happen to take the old covenant 802 00:38:53,105 --> 00:38:55,165 and look at it first or you just Yes, yes. 803 00:38:55,625 --> 00:39:00,365 So this, so what's here is a combination, I guess, 804 00:39:00,665 --> 00:39:04,685 of Barbara Richter with the N-H-A-C-C, 805 00:39:04,705 --> 00:39:07,285 who was the one also helping us with the BioBlitz, right? 806 00:39:07,305 --> 00:39:11,445 So she provided us some samples of other deed covenants 807 00:39:12,625 --> 00:39:17,005 or deed restrictions and I took those 808 00:39:17,465 --> 00:39:19,685 and our existing deed covenant 809 00:39:19,945 --> 00:39:23,965 and just sort of morphed them into this, this document here, 810 00:39:24,335 --> 00:39:28,565 which is, you know, I'm not a lawyer obviously, so 811 00:39:29,185 --> 00:39:31,845 you know, this would need to be thoroughly reviewed 812 00:39:31,985 --> 00:39:33,045 by the town lawyer. 813 00:39:33,145 --> 00:39:36,085 But this is just to give you an i a rough idea of 814 00:39:36,085 --> 00:39:37,685 what a deed covenant might look like. 815 00:39:39,195 --> 00:39:42,865 Thank You. Yeah. Do you mind if I ask a 816 00:39:43,265 --> 00:39:44,265 Question? 817 00:39:44,265 --> 00:39:47,545 Yeah, go. So I I, I'm a little bit unfamiliar, so, so 818 00:39:48,495 --> 00:39:51,585 this is basically, can I have an example of a draft 819 00:39:51,765 --> 00:39:53,465 of a deed or is this the status? 820 00:39:53,605 --> 00:39:56,025 So in other words, is it, is it expired at this 821 00:39:56,025 --> 00:39:57,025 Point? 822 00:39:57,025 --> 00:39:57,425 It's expired at this point, correct. 823 00:39:57,425 --> 00:39:58,625 And when, how long has it been expired? 824 00:40:00,505 --> 00:40:02,265 I can't remember off the top of my head, 825 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:06,065 but I, I wanna say like three years or so. Okay. 826 00:40:06,065 --> 00:40:07,625 Yeah. And can I just ask what, 827 00:40:07,825 --> 00:40:11,065 is there like a formal status of the property during a time 828 00:40:11,065 --> 00:40:12,625 of expiration during that time? 829 00:40:12,925 --> 00:40:15,345 Is there a formal status or it's just sort of floating? 830 00:40:15,775 --> 00:40:17,385 It's just sort of floating. Exactly. Okay. 831 00:40:17,385 --> 00:40:18,705 Like it's still conservation land 832 00:40:18,705 --> 00:40:20,865 because it is in practice conservation land. 833 00:40:20,865 --> 00:40:23,185 Okay. It's just that say all of you 834 00:40:23,445 --> 00:40:27,665 who are currently on this commission now, you know, leave 835 00:40:27,925 --> 00:40:30,145 and other people join the commission 836 00:40:30,245 --> 00:40:34,585 who decide we would like to turn broadview into condominiums 837 00:40:35,215 --> 00:40:37,665 that could feasibly happen in the future. 838 00:40:38,055 --> 00:40:40,385 Okay. If the people in your seat from 839 00:40:40,385 --> 00:40:41,385 A legal standpoint. 840 00:40:41,385 --> 00:40:42,185 Exactly. Which is why now 841 00:40:42,185 --> 00:40:44,105 because you have this commission, you wanna act on it. 842 00:40:44,295 --> 00:40:45,745 Okay. Thank you. Thank you for clarifying. 843 00:40:45,745 --> 00:40:47,745 You're very welcome. Thank you for asking. Yeah, 844 00:40:47,745 --> 00:40:49,905 Currently there's no, there's no protections on it. 845 00:40:49,905 --> 00:40:52,225 Yeah. To it's need to, 846 00:40:52,295 --> 00:40:53,865 it's not conservation con protected 847 00:40:54,145 --> 00:40:55,185 I see. Unless we have the covenant. 848 00:40:55,815 --> 00:40:57,465 Yeah. Is it typical that 849 00:40:58,085 --> 00:41:00,785 our other conservation properties are under sort 850 00:41:00,785 --> 00:41:04,225 of a more temporary 25 year covenants 851 00:41:04,225 --> 00:41:05,305 or there's like a variation 852 00:41:05,305 --> 00:41:06,385 of those that are more permanent? 853 00:41:06,385 --> 00:41:07,425 There's a huge, there's actually a huge, huge 854 00:41:07,425 --> 00:41:09,465 Variation and there's a say if the funds were used, then 855 00:41:09,465 --> 00:41:10,985 that's a protection right there. Yep, 856 00:41:11,165 --> 00:41:12,165 Yep. 857 00:41:12,165 --> 00:41:12,985 Yeah, there's a huge variation. 858 00:41:13,045 --> 00:41:17,185 But a lot of our, a lot of our properties are protected 859 00:41:17,365 --> 00:41:20,945 by a conservation easement, which is that legal document 860 00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:22,785 that says, and it, 861 00:41:23,045 --> 00:41:26,505 the conservation easement is the most iron clad of, 862 00:41:26,645 --> 00:41:28,945 of the ways that you can protect a property. 863 00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:31,465 'cause it's a legal document that its whole purpose 864 00:41:31,605 --> 00:41:34,805 for existing is we wanna make sure 865 00:41:34,805 --> 00:41:36,525 that this is conservation property forever. 866 00:41:36,665 --> 00:41:38,645 And we've laid out very specifically, here's 867 00:41:38,645 --> 00:41:40,045 what you may use this property for 868 00:41:40,065 --> 00:41:42,165 and here's what you may not use this property for. 869 00:41:43,025 --> 00:41:45,765 And it's very hard legally to undo that. 870 00:41:46,305 --> 00:41:47,365 And is that tied to the deed 871 00:41:47,365 --> 00:41:48,565 of the property typically? It is, 872 00:41:48,635 --> 00:41:49,635 Yeah. 873 00:41:49,985 --> 00:41:52,365 That's what makes it Right. Okay. Thank you. You're 874 00:41:52,365 --> 00:41:53,365 Welcome. 875 00:41:53,365 --> 00:41:54,045 Yeah. Again, thanks for asking. 876 00:41:55,515 --> 00:41:57,925 Well you have been going through all that, right? 877 00:41:58,025 --> 00:41:59,045 You have been going through 878 00:41:59,045 --> 00:42:00,765 and checking the easements and Oh yeah. 879 00:42:01,005 --> 00:42:03,005 Covenants and all of that. So this is how these come up. 880 00:42:03,075 --> 00:42:04,965 Exactly. Yeah. That's good. So thank you. Yeah. 881 00:42:04,965 --> 00:42:08,365 1, 1, 1 by one, one file at a time right now. Yeah. 882 00:42:09,495 --> 00:42:11,405 Thank you Beth. Yeah, absolutely. 883 00:42:11,865 --> 00:42:13,765 So I noticed the terms are very general 884 00:42:13,915 --> 00:42:16,565 that way I assume allows more flexibility 885 00:42:17,465 --> 00:42:18,685 if you get too specific 886 00:42:18,785 --> 00:42:22,125 and then there's a change in the future, you can 887 00:42:22,785 --> 00:42:23,785 Yep. 888 00:42:23,785 --> 00:42:24,605 Be hung out to dry and 889 00:42:24,675 --> 00:42:26,045 It's all, it's all up to you. 890 00:42:26,045 --> 00:42:28,325 All right. I mean, like, I've kept it general 891 00:42:28,355 --> 00:42:32,485 because, you know, I, I sort of see that as my purview is 892 00:42:32,485 --> 00:42:35,645 to keep it general and your purview is to add the details 893 00:42:35,675 --> 00:42:37,645 that you find are, you know, 894 00:42:37,665 --> 00:42:39,005 are important or should be there. 895 00:42:39,145 --> 00:42:42,445 So it's not to say that it has to stay general, 896 00:42:43,915 --> 00:42:46,125 that that's just how I've chosen to write it so that 897 00:42:46,265 --> 00:42:47,805 to offer you all flexibility. 898 00:42:48,105 --> 00:42:50,285 And if I wanna ask one more, is there a timeframe 899 00:42:50,285 --> 00:42:51,285 that you anticipate 900 00:42:51,285 --> 00:42:54,045 that this might be an enacted action in terms of 901 00:42:55,275 --> 00:42:56,565 following through on an easement? 902 00:42:56,565 --> 00:42:58,445 Yeah. Is there a timeframe that you're thinking? Good 903 00:42:58,605 --> 00:42:59,605 Question. 904 00:42:59,605 --> 00:43:02,765 So yeah, so this is, I guess we're providing it to you now 905 00:43:02,905 --> 00:43:05,565 so that you can take it under advisement. 906 00:43:06,065 --> 00:43:08,525 You have the opportunity to look at it 907 00:43:08,665 --> 00:43:11,245 and then I believe the, the plan 908 00:43:13,205 --> 00:43:16,165 chairman BGAs plan is to bring it up at a later meeting 909 00:43:16,425 --> 00:43:17,525 to bring it to a vote. 910 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:20,045 Okay. You know, to actually say so that you all can vote 911 00:43:20,065 --> 00:43:24,205 and say, yes, we want to bring this to the town lawyer 912 00:43:24,345 --> 00:43:26,685 to have this, you know, officially enacted. 913 00:43:26,905 --> 00:43:28,325 And then I imagine that, that 914 00:43:28,825 --> 00:43:31,685 that's not gonna be a just a one and done process either. 915 00:43:31,755 --> 00:43:34,485 That will be a, a bit of a back and forth process Sure. 916 00:43:34,485 --> 00:43:35,685 To, to get the wording right 917 00:43:35,745 --> 00:43:36,925 and, and all that kind of stuff. 918 00:43:37,435 --> 00:43:38,435 Okay, Great. Yeah. 919 00:43:38,915 --> 00:43:43,445 Does this include both properties eight and 10 Young road? 920 00:43:43,465 --> 00:43:46,645 It does. Yep. Okay. Yep. Yeah. 921 00:43:46,665 --> 00:43:51,085 And those are called out as the, the different lots 922 00:43:52,865 --> 00:43:56,925 and the two lots are actually recorded in the same deed. 923 00:43:57,595 --> 00:43:58,765 Yeah. So, okay. 924 00:43:58,825 --> 00:44:03,245 That's nice. Yep. And I know that's one your 925 00:44:03,245 --> 00:44:05,245 One diligent attention to that, that's really important. 926 00:44:05,305 --> 00:44:07,485 Yes. Thank you for your diligent attention to that. 927 00:44:09,145 --> 00:44:10,525 Any other, well, yeah, I have 928 00:44:10,525 --> 00:44:14,045 to say thank you Mark Fleischer in the finance department 929 00:44:14,045 --> 00:44:16,925 because he, you know, he has a spreadsheet 930 00:44:16,925 --> 00:44:20,365 that he has shared with me that has a lot, is rich 931 00:44:20,365 --> 00:44:22,765 with information on these properties. 932 00:44:22,825 --> 00:44:26,365 And that has been mainly what I've been referencing that 933 00:44:26,585 --> 00:44:29,005 and a book that he 934 00:44:29,025 --> 00:44:32,005 and Margie Ives put together that's just sort 935 00:44:32,005 --> 00:44:33,605 of like a shorthand for, you know, 936 00:44:33,635 --> 00:44:35,605 what is the deal with all these properties. 937 00:44:35,745 --> 00:44:37,805 So thank you to those two people in the work 938 00:44:37,805 --> 00:44:40,685 that they've done in the past to help make this easier. 939 00:44:41,025 --> 00:44:43,765 Now I know that's a big one. 940 00:44:43,765 --> 00:44:45,765 So are there any other questions before I move on? 941 00:44:46,785 --> 00:44:47,965 Was this the one you worked on 942 00:44:47,965 --> 00:44:50,205 that agricultural lease for? It, is 943 00:44:50,205 --> 00:44:51,205 It, it's okay. 944 00:44:51,205 --> 00:44:52,845 Yep. Yep. Yeah, at Broadview? Yeah. Yeah. 945 00:44:56,955 --> 00:45:01,845 Okay. Is that, gotta find my place. 946 00:45:02,075 --> 00:45:04,605 Okay. So continuing with broad view. 947 00:45:05,025 --> 00:45:08,965 So last meeting we spoke about the no trespassing signs 948 00:45:09,435 --> 00:45:10,805 that were going to be removed 949 00:45:10,825 --> 00:45:12,205 and we called out on the map which 950 00:45:12,205 --> 00:45:13,405 ones were going to be removed. 951 00:45:13,505 --> 00:45:16,925 So those have been removed and we have them 952 00:45:17,225 --> 00:45:20,005 and a letter has been sent to the landowner 953 00:45:20,105 --> 00:45:21,605 to let them know they can retrieve them 954 00:45:21,745 --> 00:45:24,365 before December 15th, 2026 955 00:45:26,665 --> 00:45:29,565 and something for you all to vote on. 956 00:45:30,425 --> 00:45:32,125 So a Cub Scout troop 957 00:45:33,165 --> 00:45:36,565 Troop 4 0 2 reached out about using the campsite at 958 00:45:36,565 --> 00:45:40,725 Broadview for, yeah, so their Cub Scouts. 959 00:45:40,725 --> 00:45:43,885 Right. So the age range is, I believe like six two, 960 00:45:44,995 --> 00:45:47,965 like nine sort of range, right? 961 00:45:47,965 --> 00:45:50,205 Yeah. Cups. Yeah. Yeah. 962 00:45:50,425 --> 00:45:52,845 So they would like to have an overnight, 963 00:45:54,345 --> 00:45:57,285 an overnight camping trip at Broadview on 964 00:45:57,835 --> 00:45:59,285 this Saturday actually. 965 00:45:59,505 --> 00:46:03,845 And so since there was a, since there was a meeting 966 00:46:04,635 --> 00:46:07,805 scheduled, chairman Bazinga said you all 967 00:46:07,805 --> 00:46:08,925 should, should vote on it. 968 00:46:09,105 --> 00:46:10,105 So 969 00:46:11,065 --> 00:46:12,065 Do you have the troop number? 970 00:46:12,795 --> 00:46:15,565 4 0 2 troop? 4 0 2. 4 0 2. Okay. 971 00:46:17,465 --> 00:46:22,085 I'd like to make a motion to 972 00:46:23,075 --> 00:46:25,885 approve the use of campsite at Broadview 973 00:46:26,545 --> 00:46:29,045 for the troop 4 0 2 Cub Scouts 974 00:46:29,985 --> 00:46:32,605 for this Saturday second motion. 975 00:46:33,955 --> 00:46:35,925 Okay. Any further discussion? 976 00:46:36,965 --> 00:46:38,365 I would like to just throw a thought out there 977 00:46:38,435 --> 00:46:41,565 that is the day that we ha are doing stuff at Broadview. 978 00:46:42,145 --> 00:46:45,445 We are doing stuff at Ball Farm now Ball Farm. Yep. Yes. 979 00:46:45,705 --> 00:46:49,365 Yep. But actually I did note that in the calendar. Yeah. 980 00:46:49,365 --> 00:46:52,525 When we, and I thought, oh that'd be kind of nice if we're, 981 00:46:52,525 --> 00:46:53,925 you know what I mean, if we're doing stuff at the 982 00:46:53,925 --> 00:46:54,965 same time, but Yeah. 983 00:46:54,965 --> 00:46:57,125 But now we're doing it at Ball Property. You're right. 984 00:46:57,525 --> 00:46:58,525 It Just, yeah. 985 00:46:58,525 --> 00:47:00,845 Sorry, my bad. No worries. No, no discussion. 986 00:47:01,515 --> 00:47:03,765 Okay. On the motion. Any further discussion? 987 00:47:04,265 --> 00:47:06,845 Oh, I do have one thing to add. Just so, sorry. 988 00:47:07,115 --> 00:47:11,645 Just so you all know and in our, you know, 989 00:47:11,645 --> 00:47:12,885 when we responded to them, 990 00:47:14,045 --> 00:47:16,645 chairman Bazinga had asked if we could ask them 991 00:47:16,905 --> 00:47:20,845 for permission to like use their photos 992 00:47:21,745 --> 00:47:22,805 in our social media 993 00:47:23,185 --> 00:47:26,565 and for them there's a very small amount of trash 994 00:47:27,425 --> 00:47:31,045 in the area at Broadview is actually pretty, pretty clean, 995 00:47:31,045 --> 00:47:32,205 which is very encouraging, 996 00:47:32,705 --> 00:47:35,685 but just for them to of course carry and carry out, 997 00:47:36,105 --> 00:47:40,525 but to also pick up the trash that is in the, in the area 998 00:47:43,065 --> 00:47:44,065 On the motion. 999 00:47:44,065 --> 00:47:47,165 All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? 1000 00:47:48,265 --> 00:47:52,485 Any abstentions? Hearing? None unanimous. Thank you. 1001 00:47:53,145 --> 00:47:54,805 You'll let them know, right? Yes. 1002 00:47:55,345 --> 00:47:57,245 Is there a form they have to sign or is that 1003 00:47:57,665 --> 00:47:58,765 No, there hasn't been in 1004 00:47:58,765 --> 00:47:59,805 the past. Hasn't been. Okay. Yeah, 1005 00:48:00,035 --> 00:48:01,035 Just curious. 1006 00:48:01,035 --> 00:48:02,565 No, all set. 1007 00:48:02,865 --> 00:48:04,445 All right, thank you. 1008 00:48:04,745 --> 00:48:06,685 So next, 1009 00:48:09,835 --> 00:48:14,285 Just some correspondence that we got from the Na na Natural 1010 00:48:14,805 --> 00:48:17,605 Heritage Bureau RL they reached out about collecting some 1011 00:48:17,715 --> 00:48:19,805 seed from an endangered species 1012 00:48:19,865 --> 00:48:23,325 of milkweed called a Sleepies, quadri Folia 1013 00:48:23,785 --> 00:48:25,285 or four leafed milkweed. 1014 00:48:25,545 --> 00:48:27,525 And that is, there are known populations 1015 00:48:27,545 --> 00:48:30,165 of this endangered milkweed at Colette's Mountain 1016 00:48:30,205 --> 00:48:31,325 Conservation Land. 1017 00:48:31,505 --> 00:48:35,045 So we've let them know that they can move forward 1018 00:48:35,145 --> 00:48:37,005 and collect seeds for that in the fall. 1019 00:48:39,945 --> 00:48:43,725 And just a PSA about the logging on Kray Road. 1020 00:48:44,105 --> 00:48:47,445 So we did receive several, you know, concern 1021 00:48:48,125 --> 00:48:50,885 emails about the logging at, on Kray Road. 1022 00:48:50,945 --> 00:48:54,525 It does abut the Margaret Ives conservation property, 1023 00:48:54,745 --> 00:48:57,125 but it is not the Margaret Ives conservation property. 1024 00:48:57,195 --> 00:48:59,565 It's privately owned land, the area that is being logged. 1025 00:49:00,505 --> 00:49:04,285 And we did reach out to the state forester 1026 00:49:04,905 --> 00:49:07,245 and she did pay a visit there 1027 00:49:07,545 --> 00:49:09,685 and, you know, to check everything out to make sure 1028 00:49:09,685 --> 00:49:11,125 that they're not encroaching. 1029 00:49:11,945 --> 00:49:15,285 And so, you know, as far as we are aware, 1030 00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:16,365 through those avenues, 1031 00:49:16,365 --> 00:49:19,205 there's been no encroachment on conservation land 1032 00:49:19,685 --> 00:49:23,005 and they're, the, the logging is being done by the books. 1033 00:49:25,225 --> 00:49:30,045 And so that is that we had someone reach out 1034 00:49:30,045 --> 00:49:32,965 and we spoke about turtle signs at our last meeting. 1035 00:49:34,345 --> 00:49:36,645 So I did get in touch with 1036 00:49:37,445 --> 00:49:40,125 a couple people over at New Hampshire, DOT. 1037 00:49:41,275 --> 00:49:44,925 They informed me that the science, the, 1038 00:49:44,945 --> 00:49:48,285 the studies have shown that signage 1039 00:49:49,065 --> 00:49:53,445 is not an effective way of reducing the number 1040 00:49:53,445 --> 00:49:55,685 of like turtle vehicle collisions. 1041 00:49:56,665 --> 00:49:59,325 And so that, that's not something, that's not something 1042 00:49:59,325 --> 00:50:01,085 that they support because the research 1043 00:50:01,115 --> 00:50:02,205 does not support that. 1044 00:50:03,435 --> 00:50:07,445 They also looked at the specific culvert of the, 1045 00:50:07,905 --> 00:50:11,725 the crossing that the resident raised, you know, 1046 00:50:11,725 --> 00:50:13,445 was a concern on Hampstead Road 1047 00:50:13,985 --> 00:50:15,925 and the culvert was 1048 00:50:16,715 --> 00:50:21,325 updated in 2016 and it has a lifespan of 30 years. 1049 00:50:22,225 --> 00:50:24,925 And because it's prime wetland on both sides, 1050 00:50:25,035 --> 00:50:28,565 it's actually not eligible to be, be updated 1051 00:50:28,665 --> 00:50:32,205 or, you know, like sized up ahead of schedule. 1052 00:50:32,905 --> 00:50:35,965 So, so we're unfortunately not able 1053 00:50:35,965 --> 00:50:37,605 to do anything about that at this time. 1054 00:50:37,745 --> 00:50:41,245 He did give a list of here's what you can do, you know, 1055 00:50:41,265 --> 00:50:42,805 to help the turtle populations 1056 00:50:42,865 --> 00:50:46,205 and it's all the things that you all are doing, which is, 1057 00:50:46,205 --> 00:50:48,485 you know, volunteer with your local conservation commission 1058 00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:50,205 and raise public awareness about, 1059 00:50:51,185 --> 00:50:52,525 you know, about these things. 1060 00:50:52,705 --> 00:50:56,885 So, so you know, we're basically, right now we're doing all 1061 00:50:56,885 --> 00:51:00,605 that we can and I did reach out to the resident 1062 00:51:00,625 --> 00:51:02,845 who had initially reached out with Concern 1063 00:51:03,665 --> 00:51:07,085 and, you know, give her the, the list of, 1064 00:51:07,225 --> 00:51:10,845 of conservation activities that, that we were given 1065 00:51:10,945 --> 00:51:12,205 by New Hampshire DOT 1066 00:51:12,225 --> 00:51:14,765 and let her know that we have future events coming up if she 1067 00:51:14,765 --> 00:51:15,805 would ever like to volunteer. 1068 00:51:15,805 --> 00:51:17,565 And she's very interested in doing that. 1069 00:51:17,705 --> 00:51:19,405 So I, 1070 00:51:20,905 --> 00:51:23,125 and then I just wanted to give you all 1071 00:51:23,785 --> 00:51:27,765 the Land Maintenance committee schedule coming up just so 1072 00:51:27,765 --> 00:51:31,565 that you know what events are coming up, if there's any 1073 00:51:31,565 --> 00:51:32,845 that you can join us for. 1074 00:51:33,065 --> 00:51:34,965 So our our 1075 00:51:35,515 --> 00:51:38,725 most upcoming one is this Saturday, July 18th. 1076 00:51:40,705 --> 00:51:44,525 We are gonna be doing trail work at the ball farm property, 1077 00:51:44,655 --> 00:51:48,285 which is, that trail connects to the Cornelius and property. 1078 00:51:48,665 --> 00:51:49,685 So the Cornelius 1079 00:51:49,685 --> 00:51:51,885 and property is where we did trail work last year. 1080 00:51:53,065 --> 00:51:57,925 And so it, it'll just be a nice continuation of that. 1081 00:51:58,025 --> 00:51:59,765 And that will be from 2:00 PM 1082 00:51:59,865 --> 00:52:02,725 to 5:00 PM on Saturday July 18th. 1083 00:52:03,395 --> 00:52:05,205 It's gonna be just light trail work. 1084 00:52:05,505 --> 00:52:09,565 So no heavy equipment, just, you know, 1085 00:52:09,565 --> 00:52:12,725 just like a folding hand saw and a pair of loppers 1086 00:52:12,825 --> 00:52:15,005 and some work clothes and gloves is all you need 1087 00:52:15,005 --> 00:52:16,005 to participate in that. 1088 00:52:16,005 --> 00:52:17,565 So should we bring loppers if we have them? 1089 00:52:18,245 --> 00:52:22,525 Absolutely, yeah. And an email 1090 00:52:23,115 --> 00:52:25,565 will go out this evening to, 1091 00:52:28,345 --> 00:52:31,045 to all of the people who either attended 1092 00:52:31,105 --> 00:52:33,325 or signed up for the bio blitz at Broadview 1093 00:52:33,345 --> 00:52:34,365 to invite them as well. 1094 00:52:34,905 --> 00:52:39,525 And then Paul Mahome, who has, who is 1095 00:52:39,525 --> 00:52:40,965 with the Greater Dairy Track Club 1096 00:52:40,985 --> 00:52:44,085 and who has been volunteering on the Land Maintenance 1097 00:52:44,085 --> 00:52:45,805 Committee, has reached out to some members 1098 00:52:45,825 --> 00:52:47,645 of the Greater Dairy Track Club as well 1099 00:52:48,345 --> 00:52:49,685 to get them to attend. 1100 00:52:50,425 --> 00:52:52,005 And he said he is got some people so far. 1101 00:52:53,105 --> 00:52:54,245 So that's July 18th. 1102 00:52:54,385 --> 00:52:58,605 And then August 22nd we'll be updating the Broadview kiosk. 1103 00:52:59,665 --> 00:53:01,965 So, you know, that's, we'll have a visioning session 1104 00:53:02,065 --> 00:53:04,085 and figure out what is gonna go on there, 1105 00:53:04,305 --> 00:53:08,845 but then August 22nd we'll actually be on 1106 00:53:08,845 --> 00:53:09,965 site making that happen. 1107 00:53:10,265 --> 00:53:13,325 So that would be a fun, fun time to come around 1108 00:53:13,465 --> 00:53:14,525 for some camaraderie. 1109 00:53:16,225 --> 00:53:18,965 And then September 18th I already mentioned, 1110 00:53:18,965 --> 00:53:21,885 but I'll mention again 'cause why not the hike at Broadview 1111 00:53:21,885 --> 00:53:22,925 at 4:00 PM Right. 1112 00:53:22,945 --> 00:53:24,805 So we'll just keep reiterating that. Beth, what 1113 00:53:24,805 --> 00:53:26,525 Time will the August 22nd, 1114 00:53:26,905 --> 00:53:29,005 Oh, I'm sorry, that's 9:00 AM 9:00 AM 1115 00:53:29,005 --> 00:53:30,005 Okay. 1116 00:53:30,005 --> 00:53:31,645 Yep. And then September 18th is 4:00 PM 1117 00:53:35,065 --> 00:53:37,125 And then the last item that I have 1118 00:53:37,125 --> 00:53:41,205 for you all is a question about maintenance at Broadview 1119 00:53:41,665 --> 00:53:43,525 and Shepherd the fields there. 1120 00:53:43,615 --> 00:53:45,965 Right. So Eileen, 1121 00:53:46,185 --> 00:53:49,445 you had reached out about requesting to 1122 00:53:50,155 --> 00:53:54,085 stop mowing the middle pathway at Broad View. 1123 00:53:54,325 --> 00:53:55,405 I, yeah. At Broad View 1124 00:53:55,995 --> 00:53:59,365 because of the, of the, the Bob Links nesting, 1125 00:53:59,625 --> 00:54:03,485 and if you, if you wanna explain it, you can kind 1126 00:54:03,485 --> 00:54:04,925 of paraphrasing your Yeah, 1127 00:54:06,445 --> 00:54:08,365 I went on a couple of birding trips 1128 00:54:08,395 --> 00:54:10,165 with Mattar out at Broadview 1129 00:54:11,745 --> 00:54:14,485 and it was the UNH birding program 1130 00:54:15,545 --> 00:54:18,645 and he made very specific recommendations for Broadview, 1131 00:54:19,115 --> 00:54:23,405 including not mowing that middle trail. 1132 00:54:23,545 --> 00:54:26,405 And the reason being, it introduces predators 1133 00:54:26,825 --> 00:54:29,085 for the bot links and other grassland birds. 1134 00:54:29,875 --> 00:54:32,725 It's a perfect way for like a fox or raccoon 1135 00:54:32,725 --> 00:54:34,685 or any other, you know, land type of predator 1136 00:54:34,825 --> 00:54:36,725 to get in there and get these baby birds 1137 00:54:37,635 --> 00:54:41,085 because the botlink nest on the bottom of the grass. 1138 00:54:41,915 --> 00:54:43,605 Okay. So they're totally vulnerable 1139 00:54:44,145 --> 00:54:46,085 and they're not, they're not the kind of bird 1140 00:54:46,085 --> 00:54:48,405 that's on their feet right away when they're hatched. 1141 00:54:48,755 --> 00:54:50,805 They're very vulnerable for a couple of weeks. 1142 00:54:51,145 --> 00:54:52,885 So they're easy pickens for lunch. 1143 00:54:53,745 --> 00:54:58,365 So he thought the best way to kind of close up 1144 00:54:58,365 --> 00:55:01,165 that middle trail would be just don't mow it 1145 00:55:01,185 --> 00:55:03,365 and just let it come back on its own in terms 1146 00:55:03,385 --> 00:55:05,485 of like not having a trail there anymore 1147 00:55:06,065 --> 00:55:10,125 and just have the other trails that we, that are existing. 1148 00:55:11,345 --> 00:55:12,525 He made that recommendation. 1149 00:55:12,525 --> 00:55:17,405 He also made recommendations for bittersweet 1150 00:55:17,635 --> 00:55:19,365 that we found during those trips. 1151 00:55:21,145 --> 00:55:23,725 We, you know, we decided that, you know, 1152 00:55:23,865 --> 00:55:27,965 in looking at the sides of the property where we have 1153 00:55:27,985 --> 00:55:30,205 so much overgrowth of bittersweet 1154 00:55:30,205 --> 00:55:34,045 and other things that would just be extremely costly 1155 00:55:34,065 --> 00:55:37,485 to tackle those because they're just so overgrown. 1156 00:55:37,635 --> 00:55:38,845 It's years of growth. 1157 00:55:39,865 --> 00:55:44,325 But on the field itself, there's spots where there's just 1158 00:55:44,895 --> 00:55:47,365 small amounts of bittersweet that could be tackled 1159 00:55:47,465 --> 00:55:49,685 by our land maintenance group 1160 00:55:50,465 --> 00:55:52,525 and we should, you know, he recommended 1161 00:55:52,525 --> 00:55:54,685 that we get out there now and get that 1162 00:55:54,785 --> 00:55:56,525 before it becomes a real problem. 1163 00:55:56,705 --> 00:56:00,005 Before you'd have to introduce machinery like a brush hog 1164 00:56:00,005 --> 00:56:01,725 or something like that to tackle it. 1165 00:56:02,265 --> 00:56:04,605 We could probably just pull it right now and, 1166 00:56:04,625 --> 00:56:07,285 and tackle it that way or dig it out. 1167 00:56:07,425 --> 00:56:10,245 But that, you know, he's stressed to me 1168 00:56:10,245 --> 00:56:12,845 that we better get on this like right now Yeah. 1169 00:56:12,945 --> 00:56:14,445 Before it becomes a bigger problem. 1170 00:56:14,905 --> 00:56:17,845 You need help. Yeah. Okay. 1171 00:56:18,115 --> 00:56:21,885 Yeah. So We need all the help we can get bittersweets 1172 00:56:21,885 --> 00:56:23,325 and nasty invasive. 1173 00:56:23,505 --> 00:56:27,085 That's very tough to control. Yeah. 1174 00:56:28,545 --> 00:56:32,285 So, so the bittersweet would be, you know, we 1175 00:56:32,795 --> 00:56:35,845 will talk about that in the Land Maintenance Committee 1176 00:56:35,945 --> 00:56:38,045 and I think that we, we might actually already have some 1177 00:56:38,045 --> 00:56:40,045 volunteers that might be able to help with that. 1178 00:56:40,045 --> 00:56:41,365 Awesome. On a day. Yeah. Okay. 1179 00:56:41,905 --> 00:56:45,485 But as far as the mowing goes, so I reached out to Parks 1180 00:56:45,485 --> 00:56:46,965 and the director of Parks 1181 00:56:46,965 --> 00:56:50,525 and Recreation, you know, with that request basically. 1182 00:56:51,465 --> 00:56:56,445 And she enlightened me as to the logistics of that. 1183 00:56:56,445 --> 00:56:59,645 Right. So if they were to stop mowing 1184 00:56:59,745 --> 00:57:02,485 and maintaining that center walking path Yeah. 1185 00:57:03,135 --> 00:57:06,685 Which is frequently used by the community, she made sure 1186 00:57:06,685 --> 00:57:10,925 to note they wanted us to know that they would not be able 1187 00:57:10,925 --> 00:57:13,325 to go back to mowing it at a future time. 1188 00:57:13,865 --> 00:57:16,965 So I, I thought since, since this is sort of a decision 1189 00:57:17,155 --> 00:57:20,285 that we can't, we can't unmake very easily 1190 00:57:20,755 --> 00:57:23,005 that it would merit a, a discussion 1191 00:57:23,265 --> 00:57:25,365 and a vote by the commission. 1192 00:57:25,865 --> 00:57:28,485 So basically, you know, her, 1193 00:57:29,385 --> 00:57:33,365 her email just basically says that is that if we, if we were 1194 00:57:33,385 --> 00:57:34,605 to refrain from mowing 1195 00:57:34,605 --> 00:57:36,845 and maintaining that center walking path, please know 1196 00:57:36,845 --> 00:57:40,645 that we'll not go back to mowing it in the future for, 1197 00:57:40,645 --> 00:57:42,845 because, and then she kind of lists some of the reasons, 1198 00:57:43,025 --> 00:57:44,205 the long grass, the ticks, 1199 00:57:44,205 --> 00:57:46,685 the wildlife potential rocks and things like that. 1200 00:57:47,105 --> 00:57:50,525 So logistically it just would be a decision 1201 00:57:50,595 --> 00:57:52,605 that Right. 1202 00:57:52,605 --> 00:57:54,445 Everybody needs to Yeah. Weigh in on. 1203 00:57:55,445 --> 00:57:57,525 I just might mention too, for those of you 1204 00:57:57,525 --> 00:57:59,325 who are not familiar with Matt Tar, 1205 00:58:00,025 --> 00:58:02,205 he has a PhD in wildlife biology. 1206 00:58:02,715 --> 00:58:04,765 He's a wildlife professor at UNH. 1207 00:58:04,865 --> 00:58:08,525 He has umpteen years of experience, decades of experience 1208 00:58:09,505 --> 00:58:10,685 in managing wildlife. 1209 00:58:11,545 --> 00:58:13,605 And he did make those recommendations. Yeah. 1210 00:58:14,025 --> 00:58:15,845 And she did mention, actually, 1211 00:58:15,945 --> 00:58:19,445 or I, I had, I asked her would a writeup from 1212 00:58:20,195 --> 00:58:22,285 Matt be helpful, you know, 1213 00:58:22,985 --> 00:58:24,445 To provide her, I asked him for a writeup. 1214 00:58:24,795 --> 00:58:29,285 Okay. And he, he deferred and said, I've given you write up. 1215 00:58:29,475 --> 00:58:33,005 Sure. He wrote a very extensive report in 1998 1216 00:58:33,985 --> 00:58:37,165 and he wrote another report more recently in, 1217 00:58:37,365 --> 00:58:40,005 I think it was 2019. Perfect. 1218 00:58:40,105 --> 00:58:41,885 So we have, we have those that we actually 1219 00:58:41,885 --> 00:58:42,885 Have. 1220 00:58:42,885 --> 00:58:43,405 Yeah. Yep. 1221 00:58:43,585 --> 00:58:46,285 And he said, I just don't a have the time 1222 00:58:46,705 --> 00:58:48,045 or the, you know, 1223 00:58:48,045 --> 00:58:51,285 there's certain duties he has at UNH extension 1224 00:58:51,475 --> 00:58:54,125 that would not allow him the time to be able to write 1225 00:58:54,185 --> 00:58:55,205 yet another report. 1226 00:58:56,105 --> 00:58:59,045 But he asked me to please relay these concerns 1227 00:58:59,195 --> 00:59:00,925 that he had and recommendations. 1228 00:59:01,025 --> 00:59:02,885 So I am relaying them to 1229 00:59:02,885 --> 00:59:03,885 You. 1230 00:59:03,885 --> 00:59:05,405 Yeah. I mean it's, if it's a matter of access 1231 00:59:05,425 --> 00:59:10,005 for DP W'S equipment, are we open to paying someone else 1232 00:59:10,385 --> 00:59:14,245 to mow the perimeter path? 1233 00:59:15,595 --> 00:59:16,965 Well they would continue 1234 00:59:16,965 --> 00:59:19,005 to mow the perimeter path. So it's, yeah, 1235 00:59:19,455 --> 00:59:20,445 We're just talking about The center path. 1236 00:59:20,445 --> 00:59:21,260 So parks and rec, 1237 00:59:21,945 --> 00:59:24,165 The path that would make, you know, if we leave 1238 00:59:24,165 --> 00:59:27,565 that path open, we're allowing predators in 1239 00:59:27,865 --> 00:59:29,965 to attack the grassland birds that nest, 1240 00:59:30,625 --> 00:59:32,125 you know, during the summer. So, 1241 00:59:32,905 --> 00:59:36,245 But if, if that's closed it to me, sorry. 1242 00:59:36,605 --> 00:59:39,965 I guess my misunderstanding was it sounded like if we 1243 00:59:39,965 --> 00:59:42,805 decided to close, you know, mow that path 1244 00:59:42,805 --> 00:59:45,245 that DPW wouldn't be able to mow there anymore 1245 00:59:45,245 --> 00:59:46,525 because of access issues. 1246 00:59:46,755 --> 00:59:48,445 They just wouldn't mow that central path, 1247 00:59:48,445 --> 00:59:49,445 Just that section. 1248 00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,845 Oh, so, so right now, so there are paths that go 1249 00:59:52,845 --> 00:59:54,045 around the whole perimeter. 1250 00:59:54,045 --> 00:59:55,725 Yeah. And there's a path that goes in the center. 1251 00:59:55,985 --> 00:59:58,885 So they're just saying that if they stopped mowing the 1252 00:59:58,885 --> 01:00:01,685 center path, then they wouldn't mow the center path again in 1253 01:00:01,685 --> 01:00:04,605 the future they would just mow the perimeter. Right. 1254 01:00:04,845 --> 01:00:06,445 I misunderstood that. I do have that. 1255 01:00:06,445 --> 01:00:08,565 Also wanna mention that, you know, when we first 1256 01:00:09,245 --> 01:00:11,885 acquired Broad view and we started making trails 1257 01:00:11,885 --> 01:00:14,485 and paths, we did not have a central path. 1258 01:00:15,355 --> 01:00:17,565 That path is relatively new. 1259 01:00:18,035 --> 01:00:21,845 When I say relatively new, maybe five years old, 1260 01:00:21,845 --> 01:00:23,005 maybe six years old. 1261 01:00:23,715 --> 01:00:26,485 It's something DPW thought it might be a good idea. 1262 01:00:26,585 --> 01:00:28,085 So they just thought they were helping 1263 01:00:28,145 --> 01:00:29,605 and they just went ahead and did it. 1264 01:00:30,425 --> 01:00:32,245 But it's not something we had originally. 1265 01:00:32,825 --> 01:00:37,365 We always had a a circumference type path that went 1266 01:00:37,365 --> 01:00:41,485 around the sides a loop, if you will. 1267 01:00:41,865 --> 01:00:42,865 So, 1268 01:00:43,485 --> 01:00:46,605 I mean, I don't, I mean I know it is an enjoyable, 1269 01:00:46,905 --> 01:00:48,405 you know, it's, it's right in the middle of the field. 1270 01:00:48,405 --> 01:00:50,085 You're going right through the center. It's nice, you know, 1271 01:00:50,505 --> 01:00:51,805 fox deer and stuff run through. 1272 01:00:51,825 --> 01:00:55,645 But if it's protecting the natural habitat 1273 01:00:55,705 --> 01:00:59,045 and it's still accessible to the public, I know some parts, 1274 01:00:59,045 --> 01:01:00,125 if you go down into the right, 1275 01:01:00,125 --> 01:01:01,965 they can be a little wet and there's that one spot. 1276 01:01:02,025 --> 01:01:04,965 But roughly, I think, I think, you know, the, 1277 01:01:04,985 --> 01:01:06,965 you're still able to use the land, you're still able 1278 01:01:06,965 --> 01:01:08,125 to walk around access the camp. 1279 01:01:08,125 --> 01:01:11,165 Yeah. You can't beline it straight down the middle. 1280 01:01:12,225 --> 01:01:15,645 But I don't, I don't see an issue with not mowing. 1281 01:01:15,645 --> 01:01:17,325 Especially if they're already like, yeah, we won't, 1282 01:01:17,385 --> 01:01:18,685 if you don't want us to mow it now, 1283 01:01:18,685 --> 01:01:20,005 we won't mow it again. Yeah. 1284 01:01:20,565 --> 01:01:23,245 I, one of the things also that Matt said was, 1285 01:01:24,105 --> 01:01:26,045 and he wanted this relay to all of you, 1286 01:01:28,275 --> 01:01:32,685 it's all about what are you going to manage broad view four, 1287 01:01:33,065 --> 01:01:35,285 are you managing it for wildlife protection? 1288 01:01:35,745 --> 01:01:37,765 Is that a value that you are promoting 1289 01:01:38,315 --> 01:01:39,485 with this piece of land? 1290 01:01:39,745 --> 01:01:43,165 And if so, the recommendation of not having 1291 01:01:43,165 --> 01:01:45,925 that middle path is, is very important. 1292 01:01:46,385 --> 01:01:49,365 So just something to think about. 1293 01:01:54,255 --> 01:01:58,065 Anybody else? Are you looking for a motion? 1294 01:02:00,545 --> 01:02:02,985 I would say, yeah, if we're gonna, if we're gonna change 1295 01:02:03,255 --> 01:02:06,065 what I would say, if we're not changing it, 1296 01:02:06,335 --> 01:02:07,425 then no motion is needed. 1297 01:02:07,525 --> 01:02:10,665 But if it sounds like you all wanna change what we're doing 1298 01:02:11,245 --> 01:02:12,305 or what, what parks 1299 01:02:12,305 --> 01:02:15,985 and rec is currently doing, then emotion would be good. 1300 01:02:16,135 --> 01:02:18,185 Yeah. I'm interested to hear, I don't know, Jay, 1301 01:02:18,255 --> 01:02:19,645 with being at the community garden 1302 01:02:19,905 --> 01:02:22,405 and stuff, do you have any insight? 1303 01:02:22,405 --> 01:02:23,965 I don't know, you're there a little bit more frequently, 1304 01:02:23,965 --> 01:02:25,605 maybe the gardeners, I don't know, 1305 01:02:26,625 --> 01:02:29,965 In terms of, it's around the corner from that, 1306 01:02:30,115 --> 01:02:33,485 that central area and it, it's kind 1307 01:02:33,485 --> 01:02:35,685 of in its own separate space, 1308 01:02:36,385 --> 01:02:38,845 so I don't have much input except as 1309 01:02:39,355 --> 01:02:40,805 walking through it myself. 1310 01:02:41,805 --> 01:02:45,205 I think that that central path could be eliminated. 1311 01:02:45,265 --> 01:02:47,765 It would have no impact. 'cause there's a loop around. 1312 01:02:48,825 --> 01:02:50,165 That's just fine. Yeah. 1313 01:02:50,745 --> 01:02:53,005 Do you have the email from Matt Tar? 1314 01:02:53,485 --> 01:02:56,965 I mean, was it Steven? 1315 01:02:59,025 --> 01:03:00,325 No. The from Moose Food Ecological, 1316 01:03:00,505 --> 01:03:04,085 all those species identified where you said, are we like, 1317 01:03:04,085 --> 01:03:06,285 what, what are we protecting here? Right. 1318 01:03:06,285 --> 01:03:07,805 What are we managing Broadview for? 1319 01:03:08,225 --> 01:03:11,045 And, and the BioBlitz really kind of solidified 1320 01:03:11,075 --> 01:03:12,165 with documentation 1321 01:03:12,185 --> 01:03:15,925 and data, how many species we've got, you know, 1322 01:03:15,925 --> 01:03:19,445 what a diverse piece of property the Broadview is in terms 1323 01:03:19,445 --> 01:03:20,565 of wildlife diversity. 1324 01:03:21,865 --> 01:03:25,445 So I guess for myself, I'm just gonna say I, I think, 1325 01:03:25,925 --> 01:03:29,245 I think it's, it's worthy of protecting wildlife. 1326 01:03:29,945 --> 01:03:33,205 And that's just my, 1327 01:03:34,025 --> 01:03:35,245 my personal view on it. 1328 01:03:35,995 --> 01:03:40,015 If there's an appetite to change what we asked Parks 1329 01:03:40,015 --> 01:03:43,015 and recti mo, I would entertain a motion at the time. 1330 01:03:43,775 --> 01:03:46,615 I will also say that we do have 1331 01:03:46,615 --> 01:03:49,495 that letter from Matt Tar from January, 2020. 1332 01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:53,455 If you all would like time, you know, to review that, I can, 1333 01:03:53,615 --> 01:03:55,655 I can send that to everybody too, if that's, if 1334 01:03:55,655 --> 01:03:56,895 that's the preference, just letting you 1335 01:03:56,895 --> 01:03:58,015 know that that's available to you. 1336 01:03:58,675 --> 01:04:00,335 And Beth, could you look for, 1337 01:04:00,955 --> 01:04:03,135 he mentioned a report from 1998. 1338 01:04:03,135 --> 01:04:05,535 Sure, sure. I don't have the copy of that myself, 1339 01:04:05,595 --> 01:04:07,455 but it would be nice if I 1340 01:04:07,465 --> 01:04:10,215 Could that I've seen that in the file. Yes. I do think 1341 01:04:10,285 --> 01:04:11,285 That We 1342 01:04:11,285 --> 01:04:11,775 Have that. 1343 01:04:11,775 --> 01:04:12,535 If that could be shared with, with the commissioners, 1344 01:04:12,605 --> 01:04:13,695 that would be helpful as 1345 01:04:13,695 --> 01:04:15,455 Well in, in that vein. 1346 01:04:15,485 --> 01:04:18,135 When is it next scheduled to be mowed? 1347 01:04:19,935 --> 01:04:21,495 I don't know the answer to that question. Yeah, that 1348 01:04:21,495 --> 01:04:22,495 Would be important to know. 1349 01:04:22,535 --> 01:04:24,535 Yeah, very important to know. So 1350 01:04:24,535 --> 01:04:28,415 If we want to wait until August to see that letter 1351 01:04:29,075 --> 01:04:30,735 and everybody think about it individually. 1352 01:04:30,955 --> 01:04:33,295 Oh, I would say it's definitely mowed 1353 01:04:34,435 --> 01:04:37,215 on a pretty frequent Oh, it is. Like I, I would say 1354 01:04:37,215 --> 01:04:38,495 Pretty soon they might mow It again. 1355 01:04:38,525 --> 01:04:42,535 Yeah. It's gotta be, it's gotta be weekly, 1356 01:04:42,795 --> 01:04:44,055 if not biweekly, 1357 01:04:44,055 --> 01:04:46,695 because they keep it, they keep it pretty short, 1358 01:04:46,715 --> 01:04:48,015 pretty well maintained. 1359 01:04:48,835 --> 01:04:51,335 So they're, they're there pretty frequently. Yeah. Okay. 1360 01:04:51,965 --> 01:04:54,095 Yeah. This, we're not talking about like the, you know, 1361 01:04:54,095 --> 01:04:55,655 the big like brush hog mowing 1362 01:04:55,655 --> 01:04:57,815 that they do over the whole field. Right. Regular 1363 01:04:57,985 --> 01:04:58,985 Close Cut mowing. 1364 01:04:58,985 --> 01:05:00,695 This is, this is something that they're doing frequently. 1365 01:05:00,805 --> 01:05:01,805 Yeah. Okay. 1366 01:05:02,885 --> 01:05:05,375 Anybody, Just some discussion. 1367 01:05:05,375 --> 01:05:07,535 If this is something that we would, you know, 1368 01:05:07,535 --> 01:05:09,375 read the letter, you know, we come back, decide to change. 1369 01:05:09,775 --> 01:05:12,135 I think it's also something that would worth warrant posting 1370 01:05:12,235 --> 01:05:14,495 in the kiosk and stuff too, just to make sure. 1371 01:05:14,635 --> 01:05:16,335 Yes. Regulars who are, who know, 1372 01:05:17,145 --> 01:05:18,925 and again, this is hypothetical right? 1373 01:05:19,025 --> 01:05:21,725 Public, it's something to consider that it's a, 1374 01:05:21,725 --> 01:05:23,885 it's a popular property. We wanna make sure it's, 1375 01:05:24,555 --> 01:05:26,765 Yeah, I decision is, I would definitely anticipate 1376 01:05:27,305 --> 01:05:31,445 people reaching out, asking why it's not being mowed. 1377 01:05:32,205 --> 01:05:33,885 I gonna say if, if that is the decision 1378 01:05:33,885 --> 01:05:35,005 that you all make. Yeah. 1379 01:05:35,595 --> 01:05:37,565 Well there's, I mean, Eileen's 1380 01:05:37,805 --> 01:05:39,325 provided the justification, I believe. 1381 01:05:39,325 --> 01:05:42,205 Sure. Yep. So there's our answer. Yep. 1382 01:05:42,785 --> 01:05:45,285 The BioBlitz strengthened that. Yeah. 1383 01:05:45,755 --> 01:05:48,485 With actual data, the diversity Yep. 1384 01:05:48,785 --> 01:05:50,205 Of wildlife that we have there. 1385 01:05:50,265 --> 01:05:54,245 Not only, you know, 543, 1386 01:05:54,385 --> 01:05:58,085 but there's some that are, I don't wanna say endangered, 1387 01:05:58,105 --> 01:06:00,965 but they're in very few places in Broadview happens 1388 01:06:00,965 --> 01:06:03,405 to be one of them according to the report we got. 1389 01:06:03,825 --> 01:06:07,805 So I think might be a good decision to not, not mow that. 1390 01:06:08,195 --> 01:06:10,125 Yeah. My, my personal opinion anyway. 1391 01:06:10,605 --> 01:06:13,165 But I give it up to the commission to, 1392 01:06:13,665 --> 01:06:15,765 And if anybody has any questions, we can use it 1393 01:06:15,765 --> 01:06:16,765 as a good opportunity 1394 01:06:17,025 --> 01:06:20,525 for public education about why we are mowing as 1395 01:06:20,525 --> 01:06:21,525 Well. 1396 01:06:21,525 --> 01:06:22,725 We could use our Facebook, Cheryl 1397 01:06:23,025 --> 01:06:24,025 For social media. 1398 01:06:24,025 --> 01:06:25,285 You know, maybe a little explanation. 1399 01:06:25,305 --> 01:06:27,245 Is this something that would be in the kiosk 1400 01:06:27,245 --> 01:06:29,245 or like an informational, not just 1401 01:06:29,265 --> 01:06:30,265 The kiosk Hundred percent. 1402 01:06:30,665 --> 01:06:33,525 So we can put it on, maybe employ all of those things 1403 01:06:33,545 --> 01:06:34,605 and Yeah, yeah, 1404 01:06:34,735 --> 01:06:36,125 Definitely. Yep. 1405 01:06:36,645 --> 01:06:39,925 I mean, I would be, I would support an emotion even 1406 01:06:39,925 --> 01:06:42,685 without the time reading Matt Tara's email. 1407 01:06:42,765 --> 01:06:45,765 I feel like yes, between the information 1408 01:06:45,765 --> 01:06:47,085 that we got from the bio blitz, 1409 01:06:47,085 --> 01:06:49,045 and I know Eileen, you know, you've done birding walks 1410 01:06:49,045 --> 01:06:50,765 with him before and you've had had, 1411 01:06:50,765 --> 01:06:52,125 you know, experience there. 1412 01:06:52,205 --> 01:06:54,335 I would put 1413 01:06:54,335 --> 01:06:56,135 that forward without Matt Tars letter 1414 01:06:56,455 --> 01:06:58,565 specifically in review. 1415 01:06:59,865 --> 01:07:01,365 And you got some, anybody got something 1416 01:07:01,365 --> 01:07:02,525 craft or do you want me to wing it? 1417 01:07:03,005 --> 01:07:04,005 I can. A motion. 1418 01:07:07,105 --> 01:07:10,165 I'd like to make a motion that we discontinue mowing 1419 01:07:10,825 --> 01:07:14,005 the middle central path at Broadview Farm 1420 01:07:15,865 --> 01:07:17,405 for Wildlife Protection. 1421 01:07:18,005 --> 01:07:20,605 I would seconded. Yeah. Okay. Moving, seconded. 1422 01:07:21,465 --> 01:07:24,965 Any further discussion? Second. Pam. Pam. 1423 01:07:27,215 --> 01:07:30,905 Okay. I'm gonna call a role Chris. Yes. Jay? Yes. Cheryl? 1424 01:07:31,165 --> 01:07:35,865 Yes. Eileen? Yes. Val? Yes. Pam? Yes. And chair vote Jess. 1425 01:07:36,325 --> 01:07:38,385 So if you can relay that message. 1426 01:07:38,385 --> 01:07:39,785 Thank you. Excellent. Appreciate it. 1427 01:07:40,255 --> 01:07:42,865 Awesome. Anything else for you? 1428 01:07:44,135 --> 01:07:47,385 That is my last note. Okay. Thank you. 1429 01:07:49,105 --> 01:07:50,705 Upcoming meetings. Our next scheduled meeting, 1430 01:07:50,705 --> 01:07:53,225 August 17th, 2026, seven o'clock. 1431 01:07:54,015 --> 01:07:57,505 Further meeting dates we have proposed September 21st, 1432 01:07:58,415 --> 01:08:00,065 then October we go back to two a month. 1433 01:08:00,325 --> 01:08:02,945 10 October 5th, October 19th. 1434 01:08:04,825 --> 01:08:06,585 Commissioner, commissioners, any other business? 1435 01:08:09,125 --> 01:08:13,705 Yes. I'd like to go over something that I sent out 1436 01:08:13,705 --> 01:08:17,085 to the commissioners just before the meeting today. 1437 01:08:17,985 --> 01:08:21,805 Report on the, the Young Road, Broadview Annex. 1438 01:08:22,445 --> 01:08:26,045 I wanted to update my observations 1439 01:08:27,435 --> 01:08:30,205 just to, to back backtrack a little 1440 01:08:30,345 --> 01:08:34,685 and inform, we did an environment, we 1441 01:08:35,265 --> 01:08:38,845 had a environmental study conducted in 1442 01:08:38,845 --> 01:08:40,685 October, 2025. 1443 01:08:40,905 --> 01:08:43,045 And the recommendations were that we 1444 01:08:43,755 --> 01:08:47,605 further study the hydrology of the property in order 1445 01:08:47,605 --> 01:08:51,725 to determine if three areas were confirmed 1446 01:08:52,625 --> 01:08:53,805 as vernal pools. 1447 01:08:53,995 --> 01:08:57,845 They remained on the, the map as potential vernal pools. 1448 01:08:59,905 --> 01:09:04,645 So I have been engaging in trying to get into the property 1449 01:09:05,385 --> 01:09:09,885 weekly since the snow was starting to melt, 1450 01:09:10,785 --> 01:09:14,525 making my observations informally. 1451 01:09:14,665 --> 01:09:17,525 And then also I created a log on my phone 1452 01:09:17,705 --> 01:09:22,085 and I'm translating that to an Excel spreadsheet so 1453 01:09:22,115 --> 01:09:25,405 that I'm gonna be posting to a MS teams 1454 01:09:27,075 --> 01:09:30,765 site that Beth provided access to for me. 1455 01:09:31,945 --> 01:09:34,485 And so far, what I'm seeing 1456 01:09:34,545 --> 01:09:38,365 for a general hydrology pattern is that there's a, 1457 01:09:40,245 --> 01:09:43,055 this area is about 4.5 acres. 1458 01:09:43,115 --> 01:09:46,935 It borders Hamstead Road, 1459 01:09:47,715 --> 01:09:51,575 the Dairy East Dairy Fire Department on the south border. 1460 01:09:51,955 --> 01:09:55,935 And the north border is young road opposite 1461 01:09:55,935 --> 01:09:57,335 of the parking lot area. 1462 01:09:58,955 --> 01:10:02,855 So I I, the middle section of 1463 01:10:03,045 --> 01:10:05,375 that southern border, there's a prop. 1464 01:10:05,405 --> 01:10:08,775 There's a PVP 1465 01:10:09,565 --> 01:10:12,535 potential vernal pool that was identified. 1466 01:10:12,755 --> 01:10:15,975 It seems to be the main source of water runoff 1467 01:10:15,975 --> 01:10:18,615 that is pretty regular and persistent. 1468 01:10:20,555 --> 01:10:25,135 So this is running off into an area of 1469 01:10:26,435 --> 01:10:29,615 marshy grass called Canary Reed grass. 1470 01:10:30,405 --> 01:10:33,975 This area is also holding water persistently. 1471 01:10:35,915 --> 01:10:38,455 I'm not sure whether it's moving water or still, 1472 01:10:41,315 --> 01:10:45,815 but I'll explain further and get back to that. 1473 01:10:46,875 --> 01:10:51,775 So after a rain, there are two channels that seem 1474 01:10:51,775 --> 01:10:54,255 to be there naturally, or they were dug. 1475 01:10:54,495 --> 01:10:55,655 I, I don't know. They, 1476 01:10:55,655 --> 01:10:57,895 they're just persistent in the environment now. 1477 01:10:59,125 --> 01:11:02,695 They run south to north from 1478 01:11:02,695 --> 01:11:05,895 that water source. 1479 01:11:07,555 --> 01:11:10,015 And then one splits to the northwest. 1480 01:11:10,395 --> 01:11:12,855 And there's a potential vernal pool there right 1481 01:11:12,855 --> 01:11:14,045 on Young Road. 1482 01:11:14,865 --> 01:11:18,925 And that seems to have a behavior where it runs 1483 01:11:20,665 --> 01:11:24,805 for three to 10 days, depending on the time of the season 1484 01:11:24,825 --> 01:11:27,005 and how much water saturation. 1485 01:11:27,065 --> 01:11:28,685 But consistently 1486 01:11:29,495 --> 01:11:33,965 after that period of time, it's, it's dried up, you know, 1487 01:11:34,065 --> 01:11:35,445 the soil may be moist. 1488 01:11:38,235 --> 01:11:41,615 So the behavior, it's not to say that in future years 1489 01:11:41,925 --> 01:11:44,215 that the weather patterns may change 1490 01:11:44,315 --> 01:11:47,455 and it may be able to support while 1491 01:11:48,965 --> 01:11:53,935 amphibian amphibians and other vernal pool habitat. 1492 01:11:55,265 --> 01:11:58,325 So this is all a slow long study, so it, 1493 01:11:58,325 --> 01:12:00,085 there's no rush to anything. 1494 01:12:03,425 --> 01:12:05,965 So starting in mid-June, the vegetation started 1495 01:12:05,965 --> 01:12:09,285 to really grow and it's really become too long 1496 01:12:09,625 --> 01:12:14,485 to even venture into there without jungle, jungle boots 1497 01:12:14,485 --> 01:12:16,285 and a machete and a pit helmet. 1498 01:12:17,385 --> 01:12:21,165 And I haven't been willing to do that yet. I got my garden. 1499 01:12:22,825 --> 01:12:25,765 But I can tell you that to the west of that, that 1500 01:12:27,225 --> 01:12:31,205 marshy grass area, there's ferns golden rod. 1501 01:12:31,305 --> 01:12:32,765 And I was seeing 1502 01:12:32,785 --> 01:12:34,445 before they grew up outta sight, 1503 01:12:34,565 --> 01:12:37,725 a beautiful poison ivy field. 1504 01:12:38,485 --> 01:12:40,085 I mean, it was very extensive. 1505 01:12:40,865 --> 01:12:42,525 So I'm not sure how tall it's grown. 1506 01:12:43,825 --> 01:12:45,845 So that's all on the western side of 1507 01:12:46,465 --> 01:12:47,965 the Canary Reed grass area. 1508 01:12:48,945 --> 01:12:53,765 So Beth and I, I approached her talking about, you know, 1509 01:12:53,765 --> 01:12:55,845 trying to create a path to get access. 1510 01:12:56,065 --> 01:12:59,525 And Beth, you know, pretty much shut me down for the rest 1511 01:12:59,525 --> 01:13:04,165 of the season that the available equipment right now, 1512 01:13:05,205 --> 01:13:08,365 although dairy does have the big, the big tractors, 1513 01:13:08,665 --> 01:13:13,405 but right now the, the regular lawn mowing 1514 01:13:14,475 --> 01:13:15,925 maintenance that's going on, 1515 01:13:15,925 --> 01:13:18,485 that this is just no way it's going to touch that. 1516 01:13:20,465 --> 01:13:24,805 And I, I hacked a, took my shears and hacked in a few feet 1517 01:13:24,945 --> 01:13:26,125 and it's very thick. 1518 01:13:27,105 --> 01:13:28,365 So we're not gonna get in there. 1519 01:13:28,585 --> 01:13:31,845 But what we need to do is think about the fall and, 1520 01:13:32,105 --> 01:13:36,955 and plotting a, a path in there. 1521 01:13:37,815 --> 01:13:41,275 And it's, as long as the environment is dry, 1522 01:13:41,455 --> 01:13:43,635 and it should be because it was last year, 1523 01:13:44,145 --> 01:13:47,395 it's totally permissible by, by the wetland rules 1524 01:13:48,775 --> 01:13:50,235 to mo mo paths. 1525 01:13:52,615 --> 01:13:56,515 So what we need to do is study this further over time 1526 01:13:56,575 --> 01:13:57,795 and then consider a fall. 1527 01:13:58,415 --> 01:14:02,035 How, how we would do a fall mowing. 1528 01:14:02,055 --> 01:14:03,835 You know, we're talking about staking out, 1529 01:14:04,185 --> 01:14:08,315 roughly staking out and then mowing it through 1530 01:14:08,335 --> 01:14:11,805 and then staking out on the other side of the path 1531 01:14:11,805 --> 01:14:14,405 that we're designating for the future, 1532 01:14:14,785 --> 01:14:17,685 for the next spring 2027. 1533 01:14:18,265 --> 01:14:21,965 So the town can mow that as needed. 1534 01:14:23,485 --> 01:14:27,205 I I, so 1535 01:14:27,835 --> 01:14:30,765 what I ask, and I'm proposing is a formation 1536 01:14:30,765 --> 01:14:34,445 of a subcommittee for the management of this young road, 1537 01:14:34,445 --> 01:14:37,565 Broadview annex Holding. 1538 01:14:38,825 --> 01:14:40,845 We need to really, I need to have a more 1539 01:14:40,845 --> 01:14:42,965 of a consensus on actions to be taken. 1540 01:14:43,285 --> 01:14:46,685 I don't want to do this all by myself, I don't mind. 1541 01:14:46,825 --> 01:14:51,765 But I think the commission will benefit from 1542 01:14:51,765 --> 01:14:54,405 having other commissioners involved. 1543 01:14:57,305 --> 01:15:00,925 So I, I would wanna, I would like to do that, 1544 01:15:03,855 --> 01:15:06,235 by the way, I did during the bio blitz, get an answer 1545 01:15:06,255 --> 01:15:07,635 to a question I had. 1546 01:15:07,815 --> 01:15:11,475 How is that, as the report said, how's that 1547 01:15:12,025 --> 01:15:14,715 area going to eventually become woods 1548 01:15:14,945 --> 01:15:18,795 because it was recommended to let, let the land go 1549 01:15:18,815 --> 01:15:20,235 and become woodland someday. 1550 01:15:20,815 --> 01:15:21,955 How did that actually happen? 1551 01:15:22,065 --> 01:15:26,315 Well, we, we walked to a older 1552 01:15:27,045 --> 01:15:31,235 marsh that was drying up in, in the, 1553 01:15:32,375 --> 01:15:34,635 the other side of the, the northern side 1554 01:15:34,635 --> 01:15:36,195 of the Broadview holding. 1555 01:15:37,295 --> 01:15:39,915 And there was a red maple there in the middle. 1556 01:15:40,855 --> 01:15:44,795 And the biologists mentioned that that's, 1557 01:15:44,795 --> 01:15:46,075 you know, pioneering. 1558 01:15:46,255 --> 01:15:49,995 And so I asked him, you know, how does that apply 1559 01:15:50,095 --> 01:15:52,635 to the area that's, you know, right. 1560 01:15:53,015 --> 01:15:55,515 So wet right now, it doesn't seem it could handle 1561 01:15:55,855 --> 01:15:56,955 any kind of tree life. 1562 01:15:57,535 --> 01:16:02,315 But he said that actually the red maple will take hold 1563 01:16:02,615 --> 01:16:04,515 and has the ability to 1564 01:16:06,025 --> 01:16:10,635 much more than herbaceous plants suck up the, the moisture. 1565 01:16:11,655 --> 01:16:16,435 So it, it helps to, you know, change that the nature of the, 1566 01:16:16,615 --> 01:16:17,955 the land, the marshland. 1567 01:16:21,415 --> 01:16:22,675 So that's it. 1568 01:16:22,695 --> 01:16:25,355 And I'm just, again, I'm requesting 1569 01:16:25,355 --> 01:16:27,515 that we do a proposal for a subcommittee. 1570 01:16:27,595 --> 01:16:29,595 I don't know if we can do it in this meeting, if 1571 01:16:31,015 --> 01:16:35,235 BGA should be involved, but I'd like to see that before the, 1572 01:16:35,815 --> 01:16:38,235 before August, September. 1573 01:16:38,455 --> 01:16:41,035 So we can plan on the mowing. 1574 01:16:43,735 --> 01:16:45,835 Any members interested in serving on this committee? 1575 01:16:46,215 --> 01:16:50,955 I'd be very interested. Jay. Okay. Anybody else? Chris? 1576 01:16:51,225 --> 01:16:52,595 Yeah, I would like to. Okay. 1577 01:16:52,785 --> 01:16:57,715 Okay, then I would need 1578 01:16:57,955 --> 01:17:02,115 a motion to establish another subcommittee 1579 01:17:03,505 --> 01:17:07,995 dedicated to the Broadview Farm Annex and its management. 1580 01:17:08,255 --> 01:17:13,085 Is that what you're looking for, Jay? The subcommittee? 1581 01:17:13,225 --> 01:17:14,685 You want it to be dedicated to 1582 01:17:15,205 --> 01:17:16,565 managing the Broadview Fire Manx? 1583 01:17:17,105 --> 01:17:19,885 Yes. Man Management does a draft management 1584 01:17:19,885 --> 01:17:20,965 plan already created. 1585 01:17:21,075 --> 01:17:25,805 That kind of covers broad aspects of, of what it would take. 1586 01:17:27,235 --> 01:17:28,525 Someone wanna make a motion 1587 01:17:29,275 --> 01:17:31,965 Move to create, move to create a subcommittee 1588 01:17:32,145 --> 01:17:34,325 to manage the Broadview Farm Annex. 1589 01:17:35,955 --> 01:17:37,925 I'll second That. Seconded by Val, 1590 01:17:38,585 --> 01:17:39,645 any further discussion? 1591 01:17:40,985 --> 01:17:42,245 We already have volunteer members. 1592 01:17:42,385 --> 01:17:46,325 So you wanna take a roll from my right, Chris? Yes. Jay? 1593 01:17:46,505 --> 01:17:50,845 Yes. Cheryl? Yes. Eileen? Yes. Do yes. Cam? Yes. 1594 01:17:50,975 --> 01:17:53,985 Chair V. Yes. So we'll make that, 1595 01:17:54,825 --> 01:17:56,065 I guess under property maintenance, 1596 01:17:56,905 --> 01:17:58,945 property management about, add that, 1597 01:17:59,725 --> 01:18:00,865 Add that Under property, 1598 01:18:01,355 --> 01:18:03,865 Under under the Property management's another committee. 1599 01:18:04,805 --> 01:18:08,225 Jay Jay is the chair. And Eileen and Chris. 1600 01:18:09,245 --> 01:18:10,545 Oh, I see what you're saying. Subcommittee 1601 01:18:10,545 --> 01:18:11,545 Members. 1602 01:18:11,545 --> 01:18:13,105 I thought you meant like a subcommittee under 1603 01:18:13,205 --> 01:18:14,225 the subcommittee on the paper. 1604 01:18:14,225 --> 01:18:15,585 Under, Okay. Yes, yes. Okay. 1605 01:18:15,765 --> 01:18:19,465 On the paper under. All right. Any other business? 1606 01:18:20,685 --> 01:18:22,225 We do have someone in the audience 1607 01:18:22,225 --> 01:18:23,505 that wants to speak tonight. 1608 01:18:23,645 --> 01:18:25,745 I'm, come on up. 1609 01:18:31,735 --> 01:18:34,305 Come right up. Sit in the chair. 1610 01:18:36,595 --> 01:18:37,785 Under the mic, there's a button. 1611 01:18:37,975 --> 01:18:38,985 Make sure the light's green. 1612 01:18:43,565 --> 01:18:46,865 Yep. On the stem there's a button. Beth's gonna help. 1613 01:18:48,325 --> 01:18:50,225 It messes with us every time too. Yep. 1614 01:18:51,575 --> 01:18:53,545 Just your name and address and then go ahead. 1615 01:18:53,915 --> 01:18:55,825 Hello, my name is Andrew Higgins. 1616 01:18:55,945 --> 01:18:57,305 I live at one Ballard View Circle. 1617 01:18:57,535 --> 01:19:00,625 Dear New Hampshire, I was just, 1618 01:19:01,345 --> 01:19:03,825 I have it written on my phone if that's okay. 1619 01:19:09,465 --> 01:19:10,645 So, hello everyone. 1620 01:19:10,785 --> 01:19:13,685 I'd thank to like to thank you all for having me today 1621 01:19:14,345 --> 01:19:16,965 and working to protect and serve New Hampshire. 1622 01:19:17,065 --> 01:19:20,525 And I'm very thankful. As I said, my name's Andrew Higgins. 1623 01:19:20,725 --> 01:19:23,045 I am a junior in college 1624 01:19:23,685 --> 01:19:24,965 pursuing a bachelor's in psychology. 1625 01:19:24,985 --> 01:19:26,325 And I've been a resident of dairy in 1626 01:19:26,325 --> 01:19:27,445 New Hampshire for my entire life. 1627 01:19:28,265 --> 01:19:30,125 As we know, New Hampshire is the second most 1628 01:19:30,125 --> 01:19:31,205 forwarded state in America. 1629 01:19:31,665 --> 01:19:34,125 So in my opinion, it's the most beautiful state. 1630 01:19:35,635 --> 01:19:38,685 There's a good reason people travel here to see our foliage, 1631 01:19:39,025 --> 01:19:41,405 and I couldn't imagine myself living anywhere else. 1632 01:19:41,945 --> 01:19:44,485 But over the years, and especially this year in dairy 1633 01:19:44,505 --> 01:19:48,285 New Hampshire, I've watched the slow encroachment of two 1634 01:19:48,285 --> 01:19:50,445 of the most invasive plants in the world, 1635 01:19:50,505 --> 01:19:51,805 and especially in New England. 1636 01:19:52,805 --> 01:19:54,685 Japanese knot wood and Oriental bittersweet, 1637 01:19:55,015 --> 01:19:59,165 especially on easements in downtown dairy, 1638 01:19:59,415 --> 01:20:01,005 especially on new property 1639 01:20:01,225 --> 01:20:05,125 that's being built in dairy Japanese. 1640 01:20:05,265 --> 01:20:09,245 And I believe that the average person may think 1641 01:20:09,245 --> 01:20:10,925 that these invasives don't only pause, 1642 01:20:11,355 --> 01:20:13,565 pull only pose an ecological threat. 1643 01:20:13,865 --> 01:20:17,045 But that would be wrong because Japanese knot wood 1644 01:20:17,045 --> 01:20:19,205 and oriental builder seat are serious threats. 1645 01:20:19,205 --> 01:20:23,965 Star real estate. And Japanese knot wood can reduce 1646 01:20:24,285 --> 01:20:26,085 property values by up to 20% 1647 01:20:26,665 --> 01:20:30,285 and with even higher losses reported in severe infestations, 1648 01:20:32,545 --> 01:20:35,965 for example, this would cause a $500,000 property to 1649 01:20:36,555 --> 01:20:38,165 only be worth $400,000. 1650 01:20:39,765 --> 01:20:41,445 Japanese knot wood is one of the most aggressive invasives 1651 01:20:41,445 --> 01:20:43,565 in the world growing up to 10 feet vertically 1652 01:20:43,625 --> 01:20:45,925 and six five feet underground in a single season. 1653 01:20:46,465 --> 01:20:48,965 It doesn't displace, it doesn't just displace wildlife, 1654 01:20:49,225 --> 01:20:50,405 it also starves animals. 1655 01:20:50,785 --> 01:20:52,165 And it grows into our homes 1656 01:20:53,155 --> 01:20:55,725 because it spreads via both seed and rhizomes. 1657 01:20:56,345 --> 01:21:01,005 So it can grow through lawn tarp, wood flooring, 1658 01:21:01,005 --> 01:21:02,605 and it can even grow through concrete 1659 01:21:03,695 --> 01:21:07,005 after the inevitable freezing and thawing after winter. 1660 01:21:08,185 --> 01:21:11,165 So if you look at the new housings being constructed on 1661 01:21:11,165 --> 01:21:13,405 Island Pond Road, you'll notice there's a lot 1662 01:21:13,405 --> 01:21:14,725 of knotweed thickets 1663 01:21:14,835 --> 01:21:17,885 that have actually formed not just in the two houses 1664 01:21:17,885 --> 01:21:19,285 that are being constructed there, 1665 01:21:19,785 --> 01:21:23,525 but also in the backyards of the people that are near it. 1666 01:21:23,865 --> 01:21:28,485 It also, it, it went its way up to the auto automotive 1667 01:21:29,035 --> 01:21:32,285 shop and also moved up to my house. 1668 01:21:32,625 --> 01:21:36,205 So it's in just one year, it's grown 1669 01:21:36,545 --> 01:21:40,645 to already my house, which is like over two hou, two miles 1670 01:21:40,865 --> 01:21:43,365 of spread and just, 1671 01:21:43,705 --> 01:21:46,685 and in four months it's already reached seven feet. 1672 01:21:47,425 --> 01:21:49,885 And the way it's being mowed now is 1673 01:21:50,505 --> 01:21:53,125 it disperses it even further to other people. 1674 01:21:53,595 --> 01:21:56,525 It's being cut down using regular, 1675 01:21:58,195 --> 01:21:59,645 regular mowing equipment 1676 01:21:59,825 --> 01:22:03,165 and Japanese knot wood's known to grow back from just 1677 01:22:03,765 --> 01:22:06,605 a piece as big as finger as one's fingernail. 1678 01:22:06,985 --> 01:22:08,805 And when these pieces are flung about, 1679 01:22:08,915 --> 01:22:10,325 this is what's causing it to 1680 01:22:13,075 --> 01:22:15,645 find new places to in infest faster. 1681 01:22:16,465 --> 01:22:20,125 And Oriental bittersweet, on the other hand, 1682 01:22:20,185 --> 01:22:21,285 is a parasitic vine. 1683 01:22:21,305 --> 01:22:24,565 And it's unlike the native Virginia creeper, which is ag. 1684 01:22:24,945 --> 01:22:29,085 It aggressively girdles the host trees that it's under. 1685 01:22:29,825 --> 01:22:34,365 And it's similar to kudzu, which is the, the vine 1686 01:22:34,365 --> 01:22:35,405 that's all of the South. 1687 01:22:36,065 --> 01:22:38,925 And it's actually known to be more of a 1688 01:22:40,355 --> 01:22:44,285 more serious threat to wildlife 1689 01:22:44,505 --> 01:22:48,245 and lum a lumber industry than kudzu. 1690 01:22:48,315 --> 01:22:52,085 Even though it's more famous, it has no natural predators. 1691 01:22:52,785 --> 01:22:57,165 And with an action it could spread readily to 1692 01:22:58,935 --> 01:23:02,465 readily to dimlit forests and conservation areas 1693 01:23:02,695 --> 01:23:05,725 because it does not need light in its germination. 1694 01:23:07,185 --> 01:23:09,885 And so it's out of the deep love for my state 1695 01:23:10,235 --> 01:23:13,485 that I had humbly ask the Conservation Conservation 1696 01:23:13,485 --> 01:23:14,725 Commission to adopt 1697 01:23:14,725 --> 01:23:17,125 and forward a resolution, recommending state legislation 1698 01:23:17,145 --> 01:23:19,325 to address the straight, to address the threat. 1699 01:23:19,845 --> 01:23:22,445 Japanese knot Wood and Oriental Biddle bittersweet poses 1700 01:23:22,445 --> 01:23:26,085 to the TA dairy town count Dairy Poises to not just dairy, 1701 01:23:26,425 --> 01:23:28,525 but also the entire state of New Hampshire. 1702 01:23:29,745 --> 01:23:32,445 And it's to keep it's New Hampshire beautiful 1703 01:23:32,665 --> 01:23:35,125 and secure the state's future as a place of economic, 1704 01:23:35,445 --> 01:23:36,725 domestic, and cultural prosperity. 1705 01:23:37,405 --> 01:23:38,605 I believe that New Hampshire law, 1706 01:23:38,605 --> 01:23:40,005 what makers must be made aware 1707 01:23:40,005 --> 01:23:42,405 of this issue impacting every one of us. 1708 01:23:42,705 --> 01:23:45,485 And they must be made must be ready to make this change 1709 01:23:45,905 --> 01:23:48,405 and go upon, go ahead with action. 1710 01:23:49,345 --> 01:23:53,325 And I would like to thank you for your time. Thank you. 1711 01:23:54,055 --> 01:23:56,365 Thank you, thank You. Any, any questions? Hang on 1712 01:23:58,035 --> 01:23:59,445 Just a, can I make a comment? 1713 01:23:59,635 --> 01:24:03,005 Yeah. So you're asking 1714 01:24:03,185 --> 01:24:06,765 for a statewide ordinance, is that what you're asking for? 1715 01:24:06,845 --> 01:24:10,605 RA 4 30 55, I got it pulled up. We've already got, yeah. 1716 01:24:10,665 --> 01:24:13,525 The state has a, an invasive species 1717 01:24:14,315 --> 01:24:16,805 ordinance already administrative code 1718 01:24:19,335 --> 01:24:23,605 under New Hampshire SA four 30 verse 55, 1719 01:24:24,065 --> 01:24:27,845 and a GR of 3,800 for Oriental bittersweet 1720 01:24:27,845 --> 01:24:29,045 and Japanese knotweed. 1721 01:24:29,045 --> 01:24:31,805 They're classified as prohibited invasive species in 1722 01:24:31,805 --> 01:24:34,965 New Hampshire, and it's illegal to collect. 1723 01:24:37,115 --> 01:24:41,125 Your phone just went off. Oh, that's okay. 1724 01:24:41,665 --> 01:24:43,245 I'm just reading the terminology here. 1725 01:24:43,795 --> 01:24:47,245 It's illegal to collect, transport, cell, distribute, 1726 01:24:47,515 --> 01:24:50,165 propagate, or transplant any living 1727 01:24:50,745 --> 01:24:52,565 viable portion of these plants. 1728 01:24:53,985 --> 01:24:58,005 And we all, we, we do the Dairy Conservation Commission 1729 01:24:59,255 --> 01:25:03,245 sites that on any kind of site plans that we receive 1730 01:25:03,265 --> 01:25:05,965 for our review, we make sure that's mandatory, that 1731 01:25:05,965 --> 01:25:09,605 that's put on those site plans that are filed with the deed 1732 01:25:09,625 --> 01:25:11,685 for properties for approved site plans. 1733 01:25:14,115 --> 01:25:15,645 It's a very serious issue. 1734 01:25:15,715 --> 01:25:19,805 It's, it's really excellent that you are before us and, 1735 01:25:19,825 --> 01:25:21,165 and bringing that to our attention. 1736 01:25:22,965 --> 01:25:25,285 I know that there's a gentleman 1737 01:25:27,315 --> 01:25:30,805 with the New Hampshire Pesticide Bureau, you know, 1738 01:25:30,865 --> 01:25:33,365 in the Pesticide Bureau there's a special branch 1739 01:25:33,425 --> 01:25:37,845 that's dedicated to invasive species, and his name is Doug. 1740 01:25:38,225 --> 01:25:41,285 And if you were to contact him, I'm sure he could 1741 01:25:42,205 --> 01:25:44,405 recommend appropriate measures to take, 1742 01:25:45,025 --> 01:25:46,365 to improve your property 1743 01:25:46,505 --> 01:25:49,245 and to get rid of the Japanese knot weed. 1744 01:25:49,305 --> 01:25:51,925 And the Oriental Oriental bittersweet, 1745 01:25:54,555 --> 01:25:58,885 he's, he's done a phenomenal job on formulating 1746 01:26:00,095 --> 01:26:01,485 guidebooks for the public 1747 01:26:01,865 --> 01:26:04,845 and Beth has a bunch of copies of those 1748 01:26:05,395 --> 01:26:06,725 that she could share with you. 1749 01:26:09,565 --> 01:26:11,525 I think that's, you know, it, it, the, 1750 01:26:11,545 --> 01:26:13,205 the guidebooks are really excellent. 1751 01:26:13,205 --> 01:26:15,525 They have pictures of all the invasive species 1752 01:26:15,595 --> 01:26:18,445 that we come across in New Hampshire as well as methods 1753 01:26:18,665 --> 01:26:21,285 to eradicate them. 1754 01:26:22,185 --> 01:26:25,605 But I really appreciate your, you know, the background you 1755 01:26:25,845 --> 01:26:28,725 provided us and the statistics you provided us. 1756 01:26:28,925 --> 01:26:30,125 I think that's really excellent 1757 01:26:30,785 --> 01:26:34,365 and I would encourage you to get more information, get a, 1758 01:26:34,365 --> 01:26:35,845 get ahold of that guidebook 1759 01:26:35,845 --> 01:26:39,845 and contact Doug at the Pesticide Bureau invasive branch 1760 01:26:40,985 --> 01:26:42,365 and get more information. 1761 01:26:44,135 --> 01:26:45,745 Okay. Thank you so much. Of 1762 01:26:45,745 --> 01:26:46,745 Course. 1763 01:26:46,745 --> 01:26:50,265 Else don't give up the fight. Yeah, this, thank you. 1764 01:26:50,565 --> 01:26:51,825 Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. 1765 01:26:51,825 --> 01:26:54,065 This just feels like something that would be great 1766 01:26:54,065 --> 01:26:55,905 to bring up at the Land Maintenance Committee. 1767 01:26:56,105 --> 01:26:59,465 I mean, I know we can't focus on necessarily town in 1768 01:26:59,465 --> 01:27:01,145 general, but conservation properties, 1769 01:27:01,145 --> 01:27:02,465 and some of them do have it, a lot 1770 01:27:02,465 --> 01:27:04,185 of them do about residents, and I think 1771 01:27:04,705 --> 01:27:07,865 I said earlier, Broadview, we have a real problem with, 1772 01:27:08,135 --> 01:27:11,425 with our bittersweet, you know, especially on the perimeter, 1773 01:27:11,805 --> 01:27:14,945 it is so, like you said, girdle trees to the point 1774 01:27:14,955 --> 01:27:16,305 where we can't really, 1775 01:27:16,645 --> 01:27:19,545 the only way Mattar said we could tackle that 1776 01:27:20,245 --> 01:27:24,385 on the perimeters would be if we were to entertain the use 1777 01:27:24,385 --> 01:27:27,825 of chemical management, which I'm not in favor personally, 1778 01:27:27,925 --> 01:27:30,185 I'm not in favor of that because I've seen 1779 01:27:31,025 --> 01:27:33,145 chemical management of oriental bitter 1780 01:27:33,145 --> 01:27:34,345 wheated and other invasives. 1781 01:27:34,885 --> 01:27:39,225 And what it does is not selective. It kills everything. 1782 01:27:40,085 --> 01:27:42,025 And so you would really be destroying 1783 01:27:42,415 --> 01:27:46,025 otherwise rich wildlife habitat if you chose that method. 1784 01:27:48,185 --> 01:27:49,545 I, I would like to just say too, 1785 01:27:49,565 --> 01:27:52,185 before you leave that I can provide you one 1786 01:27:52,185 --> 01:27:53,505 of those handbooks have one. 1787 01:27:53,505 --> 01:27:54,705 Oh, you have one? Perfect. Perfect. 1788 01:27:54,895 --> 01:27:57,905 I'll replace yours, Val. Okay. Lemme give 1789 01:27:57,905 --> 01:27:58,905 It to him. 1790 01:27:58,905 --> 01:28:00,745 And Doug's contact information's on the back of that. 1791 01:28:00,745 --> 01:28:02,185 Perfect. Thank you. Okay. 1792 01:28:04,645 --> 01:28:07,585 But in, in areas that we can identify that maybe aren't 1793 01:28:07,585 --> 01:28:09,625 as bad, that need chemical treatment, I'm sure 1794 01:28:09,625 --> 01:28:13,425 that outlines some way that we can manage it. 1795 01:28:14,205 --> 01:28:16,585 I'm sure it has to be pulled up if you're not gonna 1796 01:28:16,585 --> 01:28:17,585 Come. 1797 01:28:17,585 --> 01:28:19,985 Well, I went, I went Just to give you some background. Yeah. 1798 01:28:20,505 --> 01:28:23,625 I attended with the support of this commission, 1799 01:28:23,705 --> 01:28:26,425 I wanna say it was probably five or more years ago now, 1800 01:28:26,425 --> 01:28:30,025 but I attended the UNH Invasive Species Academy. 1801 01:28:30,615 --> 01:28:34,225 They had a couple of days of dedicated 1802 01:28:35,065 --> 01:28:37,105 coursework on invasive species 1803 01:28:38,045 --> 01:28:40,985 and including a field trip that we went out to. 1804 01:28:42,245 --> 01:28:44,425 It was in Canterbury? 1805 01:28:46,285 --> 01:28:47,785 No, it was in Enfield, I'm sorry. 1806 01:28:48,765 --> 01:28:51,585 You know, adjacent to where the shaker property was. 1807 01:28:52,285 --> 01:28:53,465 And fish 1808 01:28:53,465 --> 01:28:56,665 and Game had done some with a licensed 1809 01:28:57,375 --> 01:28:59,345 pesticide applicator. 1810 01:28:59,495 --> 01:29:02,805 They had done some chemical treatment of an area for 1811 01:29:04,075 --> 01:29:07,405 removal of oriental bittersweet and other invasives. 1812 01:29:08,145 --> 01:29:11,525 And I'm telling you, it, it looked like a desert. 1813 01:29:11,745 --> 01:29:13,965 It every, everything had been killed. 1814 01:29:14,265 --> 01:29:17,685 Not just selective management of those species. 1815 01:29:18,715 --> 01:29:20,485 Just a real broad acreage 1816 01:29:20,515 --> 01:29:23,765 that just was completely dead to me. 1817 01:29:23,765 --> 01:29:27,005 It was horrifying. I, I just personally, I just don't, 1818 01:29:27,145 --> 01:29:28,165 I'm not in favor of that. 1819 01:29:29,505 --> 01:29:31,365 And the other people are, can I ask Eileen, in reference 1820 01:29:31,365 --> 01:29:33,565 to what you're speaking about before, this may be 1821 01:29:34,235 --> 01:29:37,965 gentleman's sharing here, kind of underscores 1822 01:29:38,035 --> 01:29:41,165 what you brought up about removing you, 1823 01:29:41,165 --> 01:29:43,365 you're saying in the center the bittersweet 1824 01:29:43,365 --> 01:29:44,485 that can be removed? 1825 01:29:44,785 --> 01:29:46,125 Yes, we can do that. Yes. 1826 01:29:46,125 --> 01:29:47,565 Because it sounds like in 1827 01:29:47,565 --> 01:29:49,525 that perimeter area, it's manageable. 1828 01:29:49,525 --> 01:29:51,765 The prognosis is that it's sort of a lost battle and, 1829 01:29:51,765 --> 01:29:53,645 and that will be the species there, right? 1830 01:29:53,705 --> 01:29:56,925 Unless, but but to prevent further encroachment. 1831 01:29:57,135 --> 01:29:58,685 Right, right. 1832 01:29:58,905 --> 01:30:03,005 So that sounds like it becomes more imminent. 1833 01:30:03,555 --> 01:30:05,525 Yeah. The solution there, the center, the center 1834 01:30:05,585 --> 01:30:09,645 of our field has some small, excuse me, some small areas 1835 01:30:09,785 --> 01:30:12,605 of bittersweet that are, that can be pulled, 1836 01:30:13,075 --> 01:30:17,445 that can be managed without a lot of, you know, 1837 01:30:17,445 --> 01:30:19,085 expense and difficulty. 1838 01:30:20,305 --> 01:30:23,285 And Matt Tar had said, let's get on this right away. 1839 01:30:23,705 --> 01:30:26,445 If we get on it right away, we can stay ahead of it. 1840 01:30:27,785 --> 01:30:30,645 As for the sides where unfortunately, 1841 01:30:30,645 --> 01:30:34,565 bittersweet has taken hold to enormous proportions, 1842 01:30:34,705 --> 01:30:38,805 the only way that you would be able to tackle 1843 01:30:38,955 --> 01:30:41,205 that would be either to, you know, 1844 01:30:41,665 --> 01:30:45,165 and it's even beyond like getting a brontosaurus out there 1845 01:30:45,465 --> 01:30:47,285 to just mow down everything 1846 01:30:47,945 --> 01:30:51,645 or doing chemical management, which he mentioned also is 1847 01:30:51,645 --> 01:30:55,245 that if you were to do chemical management, you would have 1848 01:30:55,245 --> 01:30:59,085 to do it again and again and again and it's very expensive. 1849 01:30:59,085 --> 01:31:01,485 So this measure that you were bringing up, like of, of 1850 01:31:02,035 --> 01:31:03,205 pulling Yeah. 1851 01:31:03,215 --> 01:31:04,565 These small, I mean, is that, 1852 01:31:04,565 --> 01:31:05,765 that's something you'd recommend now 1853 01:31:05,765 --> 01:31:06,805 and would that be like an afternoon 1854 01:31:06,865 --> 01:31:08,965 and it just, it just sounds like something worthy 1855 01:31:09,385 --> 01:31:11,205 of moving on? Yeah. 1856 01:31:11,425 --> 01:31:12,725 Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah. 1857 01:31:13,385 --> 01:31:16,285 If we, if we get started now, we, we can make a dent 1858 01:31:16,285 --> 01:31:17,285 In that. 1859 01:31:17,285 --> 01:31:18,445 Do you think like an afternoon or do you have an a? 1860 01:31:18,745 --> 01:31:22,805 It would be probably, I don't know, I think maybe three 1861 01:31:22,825 --> 01:31:24,085 or four hours of work, maybe. 1862 01:31:24,225 --> 01:31:26,565 It depends how many hands there were. Yeah. 1863 01:31:26,565 --> 01:31:27,805 Making many, yeah. Depending on 1864 01:31:27,825 --> 01:31:29,365 how many, how many people we had pulling. 1865 01:31:29,465 --> 01:31:32,605 But yeah, we could, we could make a half 1866 01:31:32,605 --> 01:31:34,245 of an afternoon of it, I'm sure. 1867 01:31:34,275 --> 01:31:35,605 With a bunch of people. Yeah. 1868 01:31:35,985 --> 01:31:38,725 And I wanted to say to you also that part 1869 01:31:38,725 --> 01:31:41,365 of our practice is if somebody reaches out, you know, 1870 01:31:41,695 --> 01:31:45,205 about something like this that, you know, you're welcome 1871 01:31:45,265 --> 01:31:47,205 to, to volunteer Yeah. 1872 01:31:47,225 --> 01:31:48,285 At an event like that we'd love. 1873 01:31:48,305 --> 01:31:49,525 And if you would like, of course. 1874 01:31:49,555 --> 01:31:50,685 Yeah. We would love it. 1875 01:31:51,125 --> 01:31:54,085 I have your email, so if you'd like, I can add you to, 1876 01:31:54,185 --> 01:31:55,885 you know, our list of people that we reach out 1877 01:31:55,885 --> 01:31:57,325 to when we have events and things like that. 1878 01:31:57,355 --> 01:31:58,405 That would be perfect. Awesome. 1879 01:31:59,295 --> 01:32:01,245 Thank you. Thank you Andrew. Thank you. Thank you so much. 1880 01:32:01,245 --> 01:32:03,165 Thanks. Appreciate you coming forward. Thank you. 1881 01:32:03,175 --> 01:32:04,725 Thank you for your time, Andrew. 1882 01:32:05,215 --> 01:32:07,085 Definitely gonna want to discuss that, 1883 01:32:07,085 --> 01:32:09,125 the next land maintenance meeting for sure. 1884 01:32:09,595 --> 01:32:11,205 Okay. Next land maintenance meeting. 1885 01:32:11,305 --> 01:32:13,405 We have a few things to discuss in non-public. 1886 01:32:13,985 --> 01:32:15,365 So who would like to make that motion? 1887 01:32:17,815 --> 01:32:19,205 Looks like Christopher does. 1888 01:32:19,505 --> 01:32:22,285 Yep. I'd like to push for a motion to enter a non-public 1889 01:32:23,745 --> 01:32:24,745 Second. 1890 01:32:24,745 --> 01:32:26,565 But wait, you have to cite the RSA Oh 1891 01:32:26,945 --> 01:32:27,965 Oh, Sorry. Right on. 1892 01:32:28,585 --> 01:32:32,885 In compliance RSA 91 A three section one for 1893 01:32:32,885 --> 01:32:33,885 The purpose. 1894 01:32:33,885 --> 01:32:34,645 For the purpose of section 1895 01:32:36,605 --> 01:32:37,925 Entering a Land acquisitions. 1896 01:32:38,105 --> 01:32:42,045 Yes. Okay. I second the motion. Second. 1897 01:32:42,325 --> 01:32:46,445 Seconded by Cheryl. Okay. Starting with Chris? 1898 01:32:47,105 --> 01:32:50,405 Yes. Jake? Yes, yes, yes, 1899 01:32:50,945 --> 01:32:51,945 Yes, yes. 1900 01:32:52,195 --> 01:32:54,605 Okay. You're allowed 1901 01:32:54,605 --> 01:32:55,845 to come in so you're not an alternate. 1902 01:32:56,385 --> 01:32:58,325 So I'm allowed today. Yep. 1903 01:32:59,625 --> 01:33:03,205 Motion to invite Beth into the non-public please. 1904 01:33:03,865 --> 01:33:06,125 I'd like to also push the motion to invite Beth 1905 01:33:06,125 --> 01:33:07,125 to a non-public meeting. 1906 01:33:08,065 --> 01:33:11,685 Second. Okay. Starting on my right, Chris? 1907 01:33:12,785 --> 01:33:17,365 Yes. Jay, yes. Cheryl? Yes. Eileen. Yes. Val? Yes. 1908 01:33:17,855 --> 01:33:21,405 Thank you everyone for Yes. Okay. We're in non-public. 1909 01:33:22,175 --> 01:33:24,005 Thank you everyone for attending. Have a good day. 1910 01:33:24,005 --> 01:33:25,085 Thank you. Have a good one.