1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,205 The elevator, use the stairs. 2 00:00:01,545 --> 00:00:03,525 If you need assistance, please ask 3 00:00:03,525 --> 00:00:04,885 assistance of one of the commissioners. 4 00:00:07,815 --> 00:00:09,325 Let's have introduction to commissioners. 5 00:00:09,565 --> 00:00:10,565 Starting to my left. 6 00:00:12,435 --> 00:00:13,965 Elizabeth Carver, land Manager, 7 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:17,445 Bob sro, Eileen Chabo, 8 00:00:18,595 --> 00:00:20,405 Charlie Foot Town Council Lee Liaison, 9 00:00:20,705 --> 00:00:22,605 And I'm the chair Ricardo Bgo. 10 00:00:23,785 --> 00:00:27,885 We have a, a brief discussion today dealing 11 00:00:28,035 --> 00:00:32,165 with public access at the Martin Farm in Cornelson 12 00:00:32,505 --> 00:00:33,845 and Fernando Properties 13 00:00:36,425 --> 00:00:39,965 to support the 14 00:00:40,915 --> 00:00:42,045 FSMA compliance 15 00:00:42,705 --> 00:00:46,885 during active agricultural operations provisions. 16 00:00:48,285 --> 00:00:52,765 I hope to enact some emergency emergency limitations 17 00:00:52,995 --> 00:00:55,685 that will last 90 days 18 00:00:56,705 --> 00:00:58,325 and allow the commission 19 00:00:59,145 --> 00:01:01,525 and the other stakeholders involved to come up 20 00:01:01,525 --> 00:01:05,325 with permanent, a permanent solution on 21 00:01:05,325 --> 00:01:08,645 how we're gonna deal with these regulations that were, 22 00:01:11,585 --> 00:01:12,725 the regulations happened 23 00:01:12,775 --> 00:01:17,365 after we had this property put in conservation easement. 24 00:01:17,365 --> 00:01:20,485 So there's a conflict between the new federal regulations 25 00:01:21,105 --> 00:01:24,005 and what we allow on the pro, the, 26 00:01:24,145 --> 00:01:26,205 the conservation easement properties. 27 00:01:27,895 --> 00:01:32,885 We're gonna reference a boilerplate agreement from 28 00:01:32,945 --> 00:01:34,885 our land manager, Beth Carver, 29 00:01:35,145 --> 00:01:37,405 and the stakeholders at JNF Farms. 30 00:01:37,565 --> 00:01:41,655 Everyone has a copy of it. It is dated 31 00:01:42,275 --> 00:01:47,175 Friday, 8 21, 20 26, 2 30 32 00:01:47,175 --> 00:01:49,455 9:00 PM and it'll be attached to the minutes. 33 00:01:49,555 --> 00:01:53,775 As part of the permanent record, I'm gonna have our, 34 00:01:53,835 --> 00:01:57,495 our land manager, Beth Carver, go through the nine points on 35 00:01:58,875 --> 00:02:02,535 the, we'll call this the memorandum of understanding. 36 00:02:04,215 --> 00:02:08,895 I hope to see a motion to adopt those provisions 37 00:02:09,115 --> 00:02:10,575 for a period of 90 days. 38 00:02:13,035 --> 00:02:14,295 And then we'll have a vote on it. 39 00:02:15,065 --> 00:02:18,575 It'll give us 90 days to, to come up 40 00:02:18,575 --> 00:02:21,295 with a permanent solution with the, with the stakeholders. 41 00:02:21,795 --> 00:02:24,375 So, Beth, can you take, take it from there? Yeah. 42 00:02:24,755 --> 00:02:26,815 So I met with Andrew Chisholm 43 00:02:26,995 --> 00:02:29,015 and Melissa Fernando, 44 00:02:29,715 --> 00:02:32,695 who attended the last Conservation Commission meeting. 45 00:02:33,395 --> 00:02:37,975 And just to get an idea from them of what kind 46 00:02:37,975 --> 00:02:40,295 of measures would work for them. 47 00:02:40,955 --> 00:02:42,535 So this is what we came up with. 48 00:02:45,115 --> 00:02:49,055 So one, remove the signage, showing trails going 49 00:02:49,055 --> 00:02:52,215 through the Martin Farm from the town website 50 00:02:52,235 --> 00:02:53,575 and the trail head kiosk. 51 00:02:53,795 --> 00:02:57,295 So right now there's some trails going through, like 52 00:02:57,295 --> 00:02:59,885 where they have electric fencing and around their silo. 53 00:03:01,745 --> 00:03:05,725 Remove the signage showing both parcels 1197 54 00:03:06,105 --> 00:03:11,005 and 1 47 dash 1188 dash three outlined in red from the town 55 00:03:11,005 --> 00:03:12,725 website and Trailhead kiosk. 56 00:03:12,985 --> 00:03:15,685 So that's the map that's online right now kind 57 00:03:15,685 --> 00:03:17,885 of combines the town owned land 58 00:03:17,945 --> 00:03:20,685 and their land that has a conservation easement on it. 59 00:03:21,265 --> 00:03:22,885 And which property is that, Beth? 60 00:03:22,885 --> 00:03:24,845 It doesn't say on number two what property 61 00:03:24,845 --> 00:03:25,845 That is. 62 00:03:25,845 --> 00:03:29,005 Yeah, so those parcels are the, 63 00:03:29,645 --> 00:03:32,205 I can I actually, I have a map if you would like, I can kind 64 00:03:32,205 --> 00:03:34,005 of hold it up to the camera maybe. 65 00:03:37,035 --> 00:03:41,855 So that's this parcel and this parcel here. Is 66 00:03:41,855 --> 00:03:44,095 That also the Martin Farm? I guess that's 67 00:03:44,095 --> 00:03:47,935 Where, Nope, the Martin Farm is connected, 68 00:03:48,075 --> 00:03:52,055 but the Martin Farm is this collection 69 00:03:52,055 --> 00:03:53,295 of parcels here. Okay. So 70 00:03:53,295 --> 00:03:57,375 The 1197 and 1 47, which property do those go with? 71 00:03:57,375 --> 00:03:58,375 Is it Cornelison? 72 00:03:58,595 --> 00:04:00,975 So yes, that's the Cornelison property. Okay. Yep. 73 00:04:01,185 --> 00:04:05,735 Thank you. Yep. Post new signage in the Trailhead 74 00:04:05,865 --> 00:04:09,215 kiosk on holiday AVEs stating no dogs, no hunting, 75 00:04:09,595 --> 00:04:10,775 no motorized vehicles. 76 00:04:12,625 --> 00:04:15,355 Post new signage on trees, flanking the trails 77 00:04:15,355 --> 00:04:16,995 that empty into the two fields 78 00:04:17,625 --> 00:04:20,315 stating keep out fields, stay on trail. 79 00:04:22,375 --> 00:04:24,755 And if you'd like, I can show you the location of those 80 00:04:27,105 --> 00:04:30,715 post new signage on two stakes along the edges 81 00:04:30,715 --> 00:04:33,195 of the upland field that are similar in fashion 82 00:04:33,295 --> 00:04:36,355 to the employees only signage posted around the j 83 00:04:36,355 --> 00:04:40,285 and f Farms farm stand post 84 00:04:40,905 --> 00:04:43,805 new signage on trees flanking the English Range Road 85 00:04:44,165 --> 00:04:46,565 driveway entrance to the field that are similar in fashion 86 00:04:46,625 --> 00:04:49,245 to employees only signage posted around the j 87 00:04:49,245 --> 00:04:50,525 and f Farms farm stand 88 00:04:52,365 --> 00:04:55,935 post new signage at the Stonewall break entering the ball 89 00:04:55,935 --> 00:04:58,695 farm property reenter trail here. 90 00:05:00,315 --> 00:05:03,735 The posted signs covering the Martin farm can remain 91 00:05:03,735 --> 00:05:05,255 until the end of the planting season. 92 00:05:06,595 --> 00:05:11,215 And the post signs looking into the town owned Cornelius 93 00:05:11,235 --> 00:05:12,695 and parcel will be removed. 94 00:05:16,125 --> 00:05:18,585 So after reading those, 95 00:05:20,325 --> 00:05:22,625 I'm wondering if there's any wisdom to 96 00:05:25,305 --> 00:05:27,455 label 'em as food production fields 97 00:05:27,595 --> 00:05:30,895 or something like that, just 98 00:05:30,895 --> 00:05:33,535 to alert people why they're being asked to stay out of them. 99 00:05:34,185 --> 00:05:39,045 Right. And also 100 00:05:39,045 --> 00:05:41,525 the, if you look on your sheet there, the, there's some 101 00:05:43,185 --> 00:05:46,605 in parentheses, it, it shows who's responsible for each one 102 00:05:46,605 --> 00:05:48,165 of those signages. 103 00:05:48,165 --> 00:05:50,365 So d is responsible for some of it. 104 00:05:50,985 --> 00:05:54,575 And then the folks at the other stakeholders are 105 00:05:54,575 --> 00:05:55,615 responsible for some. 106 00:05:55,715 --> 00:05:59,565 So if this gets adopted this evening, you know, 107 00:05:59,595 --> 00:06:02,045 Beth is gonna lead. 108 00:06:02,275 --> 00:06:04,965 Getting all that signage put up, getting it, get, 109 00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:06,645 getting it purchase and getting it put up. 110 00:06:07,705 --> 00:06:09,605 And you guys can have more questions in just a second, 111 00:06:09,605 --> 00:06:14,205 but I, I, I failed to announce that this 112 00:06:15,645 --> 00:06:18,325 MOU was 113 00:06:18,375 --> 00:06:21,485 after a meeting with myself, 114 00:06:22,635 --> 00:06:26,685 Charlie Foot and the town administrator immediately 115 00:06:26,685 --> 00:06:30,965 after our previous meeting on first what this 116 00:06:31,935 --> 00:06:35,765 rapid response subcommittee has for jurisdiction on it. 117 00:06:36,865 --> 00:06:40,405 And second, if, if there was any liability to the town, 118 00:06:41,665 --> 00:06:43,085 if we chose not to act 119 00:06:44,025 --> 00:06:48,245 and we chose that this was the best way to, to deal 120 00:06:48,245 --> 00:06:51,605 with both of those things for a temporary, 121 00:06:51,625 --> 00:06:53,125 and again, it's on a temporary basis, 122 00:06:53,225 --> 00:06:54,725 the permanent solution is not 123 00:06:54,725 --> 00:06:55,885 gonna be what you see in front of you. 124 00:06:55,885 --> 00:06:57,805 The permanent solution is gonna be something 125 00:06:59,285 --> 00:07:01,365 I think a lot more friendly to all parties, 126 00:07:01,945 --> 00:07:04,325 but in order to get something done right away, this is what, 127 00:07:04,325 --> 00:07:09,185 this was our, our kind of best, our best swipe in a, 128 00:07:09,185 --> 00:07:10,545 in a in a short period of time. 129 00:07:11,285 --> 00:07:12,305 Any other questions on it? 130 00:07:14,485 --> 00:07:18,505 The only other thing that I, there is a statute 131 00:07:18,975 --> 00:07:23,705 regarding posting that specifies the lettering size 132 00:07:23,805 --> 00:07:26,985 and stuff that we should be following that. 133 00:07:27,965 --> 00:07:29,425 So in, in, in, in the motion, 134 00:07:29,425 --> 00:07:31,305 if you're gonna make the motion in the motion, 135 00:07:31,475 --> 00:07:34,265 maybe you can add that to the motion that we use. 136 00:07:34,365 --> 00:07:37,705 Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. That we use that. Yeah. Yeah. 137 00:07:37,825 --> 00:07:39,625 'cause that's important. So. 'cause I don't think it's 138 00:07:39,785 --> 00:07:42,145 probably not, it's probably not binding 139 00:07:42,145 --> 00:07:43,385 unless it, unless you use that. 140 00:07:43,525 --> 00:07:48,345 So maybe in the motion that's made, you can refer to that. 141 00:07:49,815 --> 00:07:50,555 Any other questions? 142 00:07:53,775 --> 00:07:54,835 So I'll detain a motion. 143 00:07:56,175 --> 00:07:59,655 Can I ask questions? The only way you would be able 144 00:07:59,655 --> 00:08:02,255 to ask questions if I, if I open suspend the rules, 145 00:08:02,285 --> 00:08:05,415 suspend the rules, and open up a public, a public hearing. 146 00:08:05,595 --> 00:08:07,975 And I, and we don't, we, we weren't intending to doing 147 00:08:07,975 --> 00:08:10,535 that tonight, but you're welcome to send any questions. 148 00:08:10,535 --> 00:08:13,795 You might have to, to the town website, 149 00:08:13,795 --> 00:08:16,555 to the council chair, and, and I'll either answer it myself 150 00:08:16,555 --> 00:08:18,515 or I'll get, I'll get the right person answered for you. 151 00:08:20,735 --> 00:08:22,115 Oh, okay. Good. All Yeah, that's, 152 00:08:22,115 --> 00:08:23,195 that's probably where I would've sent you anyways. 153 00:08:23,325 --> 00:08:25,395 Chair that. Yeah, good. Ask some 154 00:08:25,475 --> 00:08:26,475 Questions. 155 00:08:26,985 --> 00:08:29,715 It's not clear to me whether we are like, 156 00:08:29,775 --> 00:08:33,795 are we totally closing all the trails during the 157 00:08:34,395 --> 00:08:37,435 agricultural crop work? 158 00:08:37,575 --> 00:08:40,835 Or are we going to have some access to certain parts 159 00:08:40,835 --> 00:08:42,275 of trails Yes. 160 00:08:42,445 --> 00:08:45,115 While that's going on. Yes. Because that's important as 161 00:08:45,195 --> 00:08:46,195 Well. 162 00:08:46,195 --> 00:08:48,475 We will, and if, if it's helpful, I can show on a map like 163 00:08:48,475 --> 00:08:49,595 where the signs will go. 164 00:08:49,765 --> 00:08:54,035 Right. So I don't know if this is the best way 165 00:08:54,035 --> 00:08:56,445 to show here on the big screen, 166 00:08:56,585 --> 00:09:00,165 but, so here's the Cornelius 167 00:09:00,165 --> 00:09:01,685 and Parcel here, right? 168 00:09:01,865 --> 00:09:04,805 So Holiday Ave is, oh goodness. Okay. 169 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:06,085 Holiday Ave is right here. 170 00:09:06,625 --> 00:09:09,725 And then this line is the trail that goes through the woods 171 00:09:09,985 --> 00:09:11,925 and then it empties out into the field. 172 00:09:11,925 --> 00:09:16,085 This is the field that like, if you go up the hill 173 00:09:16,675 --> 00:09:19,125 here, you'll be in the ball property. 174 00:09:19,145 --> 00:09:21,085 The ball property is right here. Right? Right. 175 00:09:21,105 --> 00:09:22,405 So here's a hill, here's 176 00:09:22,405 --> 00:09:23,885 where the trail spills out into the field. 177 00:09:24,505 --> 00:09:28,165 So the intent is to keep this entire trail open 178 00:09:28,385 --> 00:09:33,005 to the public, but just posting signs on these trees 179 00:09:33,655 --> 00:09:36,125 where it like empties out into the field. 180 00:09:36,215 --> 00:09:38,725 Right. The signs that say, so we're 181 00:09:38,725 --> 00:09:40,645 Moving that 30 foot Setback, keep outta fields, 182 00:09:40,715 --> 00:09:42,765 stay on trail, and then 183 00:09:42,765 --> 00:09:46,765 There's a 30 foot setback acquired by the FMSA 184 00:09:47,395 --> 00:09:49,285 from the crop fields. They have to 185 00:09:49,575 --> 00:09:50,575 Right. 186 00:09:50,575 --> 00:09:52,045 You have to stay away 30 feet. 187 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:56,405 So, yep. And then, so, and then right here as well, 188 00:09:56,405 --> 00:09:59,485 because this is a sweet corn field right now. 189 00:09:59,485 --> 00:10:01,685 Yeah. So there'd be signs here just saying, 190 00:10:01,755 --> 00:10:03,285 stay on the trail, keep out of fields 191 00:10:03,345 --> 00:10:06,245 and signs right here saying the same. 192 00:10:06,635 --> 00:10:08,605 Okay. Yeah. Stay on the trail, keep off the fields. 193 00:10:08,605 --> 00:10:09,845 That's, that's the goal. Yeah. 194 00:10:10,025 --> 00:10:12,925 Got it. And then they would also be able, the, the, 195 00:10:13,345 --> 00:10:17,445 the point of the reenter trail here sign is 196 00:10:17,445 --> 00:10:21,165 that they would be able to come out here, go up here 197 00:10:21,305 --> 00:10:23,605 and enter the ball field, 198 00:10:24,625 --> 00:10:26,765 the ball ball, farm ball, property. 199 00:10:26,915 --> 00:10:30,485 Yeah. Property. And get into the woods that way. 200 00:10:31,115 --> 00:10:34,005 Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. 201 00:10:34,985 --> 00:10:37,165 Before we get a motion, I probably should have talked a 202 00:10:37,165 --> 00:10:38,765 little bit about the origin story of this, 203 00:10:38,865 --> 00:10:40,485 of this process and why it exists. 204 00:10:40,505 --> 00:10:42,485 The FSMA require the FSMA guidelines. 205 00:10:44,185 --> 00:10:47,245 If there's an infraction on a 206 00:10:47,955 --> 00:10:49,285 crop producing field, 207 00:10:49,505 --> 00:10:54,165 an infraction would be something like a dog, you know, 208 00:10:56,425 --> 00:10:59,765 peeing or a human peeing or, or pooping on 209 00:10:59,765 --> 00:11:04,405 or near a field that, that field, the entire crops for 210 00:11:04,405 --> 00:11:07,365 that entire field can need to be quarantined 211 00:11:07,365 --> 00:11:08,445 for the entire growing season. 212 00:11:08,475 --> 00:11:10,805 That was what, that was what triggered a lot of this, 213 00:11:11,685 --> 00:11:12,725 a lot of this discussion. 214 00:11:12,725 --> 00:11:14,845 So just for the public record, so people know why we had 215 00:11:14,845 --> 00:11:17,525 to act on this pretty quickly, 216 00:11:18,295 --> 00:11:19,845 especially during the growing season. 217 00:11:21,035 --> 00:11:23,165 Okay. If there's nothing else, I'll entertain a motion. 218 00:11:25,545 --> 00:11:29,085 And the motion when it's made 219 00:11:30,095 --> 00:11:33,605 could be as simple as adopting the provisions outlined in 220 00:11:33,985 --> 00:11:38,965 the email of 8 21 from the land manager 221 00:11:39,065 --> 00:11:40,125 to the stakeholders. 222 00:11:40,915 --> 00:11:42,725 Okay. I'll make a motion that we, 223 00:11:42,835 --> 00:11:44,365 With that added language about the, 224 00:11:44,375 --> 00:11:45,765 about the, and then add mine. 225 00:11:46,155 --> 00:11:47,805 Okay, good. Maybe can do 226 00:11:47,805 --> 00:11:48,805 a friendly amendment, something like 227 00:11:48,805 --> 00:11:49,845 that. Oh, you can do it. 228 00:11:50,745 --> 00:11:53,405 All right. I'd like to make a motion that we adopt 229 00:11:55,065 --> 00:11:59,965 the provisions one through nine contained in the email 230 00:12:01,005 --> 00:12:04,605 entitled Recap of Meeting eight slash 21, 231 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:09,245 dated 8 21 20 26 at 2:39 PM 232 00:12:10,545 --> 00:12:14,885 And also include in addition to that, 233 00:12:16,025 --> 00:12:20,525 the provisions for proper dimension of signings 234 00:12:20,525 --> 00:12:22,845 that's required by statute, 235 00:12:23,125 --> 00:12:24,325 I don't remember, by statute number, 236 00:12:26,385 --> 00:12:28,565 By state statute, By state statute. 237 00:12:28,985 --> 00:12:32,965 And in accordance with that, we would post those signs 238 00:12:33,545 --> 00:12:35,965 For a period of 90 days, for A period of 90 days. 239 00:12:37,995 --> 00:12:39,805 Okay. That's a good motion. Is there a second? 240 00:12:41,115 --> 00:12:42,125 I'll Second. All right. 241 00:12:42,125 --> 00:12:45,045 So we have a motion by Eileen, a second by Bob Sperl. 242 00:12:45,815 --> 00:12:47,005 We're gonna do a roll call. 243 00:12:47,105 --> 00:12:49,245 All, all those in favor, starting to my left. 244 00:12:51,065 --> 00:12:55,205 That's you, Bob. Aye Eileen Aye. Chair votes? Yes. 245 00:12:55,265 --> 00:12:56,765 So the, the motion carries 246 00:12:57,145 --> 00:13:00,845 and is unanimous with no other business 247 00:13:00,845 --> 00:13:03,005 before the committee, I'll detain a motion to adjourn. 248 00:13:05,035 --> 00:13:06,525 I'll make a motion that we adjourn. 249 00:13:07,185 --> 00:13:10,645 Is there a second? Second. First by lien. Second by Bob. 250 00:13:10,785 --> 00:13:13,885 In favor say aye. Aye. Aye. We are adjourned.