1 00:00:02,275 --> 00:00:03,965 Okay, we need to exit from non-public. 2 00:00:06,065 --> 00:00:10,685 So moved second. Lemme pull up the, 3 00:00:15,665 --> 00:00:17,805 we need to seal the, I'll make the mo motion. 4 00:00:18,105 --> 00:00:20,485 Motion made to seal the minutes of by. 5 00:00:21,665 --> 00:00:23,485 Oh, just do it separate. Yeah. 6 00:00:24,135 --> 00:00:27,165 Sorry about that everyone. Motion to be even done. 7 00:00:27,345 --> 00:00:30,285 Public made by Councilor. Foot 8 00:00:30,665 --> 00:00:31,665 Second. 9 00:00:31,665 --> 00:00:33,845 Second one by Councilor Mills has to be Roll call vote. 10 00:00:34,035 --> 00:00:37,125 Councilor Mills. Yes. Councilor Healy. Yes. 11 00:00:37,795 --> 00:00:38,885 Councilor Spencer, 12 00:00:38,985 --> 00:00:43,545 are you line Councilor Chase? 13 00:00:43,805 --> 00:00:48,505 Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? 14 00:00:48,645 --> 00:00:53,265 Yes. Motion passes or vice chair votes? Yes. 15 00:00:53,565 --> 00:00:55,225 Motion passes. Six zero. 16 00:00:56,025 --> 00:00:59,585 I make a motion to seal the minutes indefinitely 17 00:00:59,895 --> 00:01:01,625 because it's determined that divulge 18 00:01:01,645 --> 00:01:02,985 of this information would likely 19 00:01:04,295 --> 00:01:05,705 adversely affect the reputation 20 00:01:05,705 --> 00:01:08,265 of any person other than a member of this board. 21 00:01:08,565 --> 00:01:11,905 Second. Seconded by Councilor Foote. Any discussion? 22 00:01:13,045 --> 00:01:15,065 All those in favor. Councilor Mills? 23 00:01:15,525 --> 00:01:20,305 Aye. Councilor Healy? Yes. Councilor Chase? Yes. 24 00:01:20,655 --> 00:01:24,385 Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Vice Chair votes? 25 00:01:24,485 --> 00:01:27,905 Yes. And is Councilwoman Spencer on line? 26 00:01:29,545 --> 00:01:31,185 I am. I'm here now and vote yes. 27 00:01:31,915 --> 00:01:33,265 Thank you. Motion passes. 28 00:01:33,845 --> 00:01:37,905 6 0 7 0 7 0. 29 00:01:38,435 --> 00:01:39,985 Sorry about that. I'm new at this. 30 00:01:42,175 --> 00:01:44,705 Alright, now we've done the basic housekeeping. 31 00:01:44,705 --> 00:01:47,745 Welcome to tonight's town Council meeting 32 00:01:48,485 --> 00:01:52,465 and I'll call the role Councilor Chase. 33 00:01:52,855 --> 00:01:56,345 Good evening, councilor Flood. Good evening, councilor Foot. 34 00:01:56,495 --> 00:01:58,785 Good evening, Councilor Mills. 35 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:00,545 Good evening, councilor Healy. 36 00:02:00,545 --> 00:02:03,585 Good evening, councilor Chair Spencer. 37 00:02:05,155 --> 00:02:07,125 Good evening. Vice Chair. 38 00:02:07,395 --> 00:02:10,565 Says hello Councilor Chase, 39 00:02:10,565 --> 00:02:12,285 if you could lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. 40 00:02:15,005 --> 00:02:16,925 I pledge allegiance To the flag 41 00:02:17,425 --> 00:02:18,685 of the United States of America 42 00:02:19,465 --> 00:02:23,485 and to the Republic for which stands, one Nation under God, 43 00:02:23,955 --> 00:02:26,565 indivisible, with Liberty Justice for all. 44 00:02:27,925 --> 00:02:30,525 I forgot to point out that we have 45 00:02:32,065 --> 00:02:33,325 the exit to the rear of the building. 46 00:02:33,615 --> 00:02:36,845 There is also an a ED if needed at the back of the room. 47 00:02:36,845 --> 00:02:38,525 Hopefully none of those are needed. 48 00:02:38,935 --> 00:02:41,005 There is also an emergency exit over here. 49 00:02:44,705 --> 00:02:47,285 Do I have a motion to open the public forum? So 50 00:02:47,285 --> 00:02:48,405 Moved. Second. That. 51 00:02:49,215 --> 00:02:51,645 Moved by Councilor Foot. Seconded by Councilor Mills. 52 00:02:53,865 --> 00:02:56,765 All roll call will be Councilor Mills. Yes. 53 00:02:56,855 --> 00:03:00,565 Councillor Healy. Yes. Councilor Chase? Yes. 54 00:03:01,035 --> 00:03:04,365 Councilor Fled. Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. 55 00:03:06,195 --> 00:03:08,085 Chairperson Spencer? 56 00:03:10,105 --> 00:03:12,565 Yes. Vice Chair Votes? Yes. 57 00:03:13,785 --> 00:03:17,845 Public hearing is now open. Seven zero 58 00:03:36,215 --> 00:03:38,045 David, there we go. 59 00:03:38,945 --> 00:03:40,165 Is that mic on? There we go. 60 00:03:40,735 --> 00:03:43,245 David Procher 26 Milt Moore Road. 61 00:03:44,995 --> 00:03:48,245 Last Tuesday was the primary, as I'm sure you're all aware 62 00:03:49,545 --> 00:03:52,685 and we had someone out in the parking lot 63 00:03:52,685 --> 00:03:54,085 handing out pamphlets. 64 00:03:55,325 --> 00:03:57,045 I was previously under the assumption that 65 00:03:57,045 --> 00:03:58,285 that was against the rules 66 00:04:00,545 --> 00:04:03,925 and we got a lot of complaints from a lot of people. 67 00:04:05,685 --> 00:04:08,645 I was standing, you know, where candidates and 68 00:04:08,705 --> 00:04:12,165 and supporters are supposed to stand as defined by the 69 00:04:12,785 --> 00:04:13,845 the town moderator. 70 00:04:14,625 --> 00:04:17,125 And even just there walking by, I had a lot 71 00:04:17,125 --> 00:04:19,045 of people complaining about getting 72 00:04:19,045 --> 00:04:20,645 handed pamphlets in the parking lot. 73 00:04:21,385 --> 00:04:24,685 And I don't want to start an arms race where everyone thinks 74 00:04:24,685 --> 00:04:26,445 that they have to be out in the parking lot 75 00:04:26,585 --> 00:04:28,885 and by the designated zone. 76 00:04:29,985 --> 00:04:33,365 And we end up with, you know, a pinger 77 00:04:33,365 --> 00:04:36,725 and parking lot completely covered in unnecessary pamphlets 78 00:04:36,725 --> 00:04:38,245 that are just littering everything. 79 00:04:39,185 --> 00:04:42,605 So if you guys would please look into that 80 00:04:42,705 --> 00:04:43,725 and see what can be done 81 00:04:43,725 --> 00:04:45,485 before November, that would be great. 82 00:04:46,395 --> 00:04:47,395 Have a nice day. 83 00:04:48,695 --> 00:04:49,125 Thank you. 84 00:04:58,575 --> 00:05:03,205 Hello. How you guys doing? And I'm Charlie Buzzell. 85 00:05:03,925 --> 00:05:05,565 I live on number eight Eastgate Road 86 00:05:06,665 --> 00:05:09,525 and I just wanna let you guys know 87 00:05:11,415 --> 00:05:15,255 September 20th, they're gonna honor my grandmother 88 00:05:16,555 --> 00:05:20,135 and put up a Trio Central Station at 2:00 PM 89 00:05:21,335 --> 00:05:23,495 I just wanna let you guys know. Thank you. 90 00:05:24,115 --> 00:05:26,335 And that's Hattie Durgan, correct? Huh? 91 00:05:26,515 --> 00:05:29,175 That's Hattie Durgan, yep. Okay. 92 00:05:29,555 --> 00:05:32,715 Yep. Thank you. 93 00:05:37,635 --> 00:05:39,285 Anybody else coming up to speak? 94 00:05:46,685 --> 00:05:46,805 I, 95 00:05:56,205 --> 00:05:56,555 Craig 96 00:05:56,555 --> 00:05:57,845 Cunningham Hunter Drive. 97 00:05:58,865 --> 00:06:01,085 So last week the Town Council was asked 98 00:06:01,085 --> 00:06:02,765 to make a school district department 99 00:06:03,425 --> 00:06:06,845 to make the school district a department of the town by way 100 00:06:06,845 --> 00:06:07,845 of a charter amendment. 101 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:13,005 In 2015, the Town Council disregarded provisions in the town 102 00:06:13,005 --> 00:06:16,285 charter after unilateral really deciding 103 00:06:16,385 --> 00:06:18,645 to defund the police department, public works, 104 00:06:18,865 --> 00:06:21,125 the fire department, other municipal functions. 105 00:06:21,635 --> 00:06:24,765 Members of the community were forced to raise money to go 106 00:06:24,765 --> 00:06:26,885 to court, to force the town council 107 00:06:27,025 --> 00:06:29,205 to uphold the provisions in the charter. 108 00:06:29,785 --> 00:06:33,285 The town council used tax dollars to defend themselves. 109 00:06:34,035 --> 00:06:35,925 When they lost, they appealed 110 00:06:36,105 --> 00:06:37,805 and we had to raise funds once again. 111 00:06:38,345 --> 00:06:42,365 For that reason, I would never agree to having the 112 00:06:42,875 --> 00:06:47,085 town take over the school department In 2018, 113 00:06:47,225 --> 00:06:48,685 representative Trip 114 00:06:48,825 --> 00:06:51,645 and then Representative Ello attempted 115 00:06:51,645 --> 00:06:53,805 to get an emergency amendment attached 116 00:06:53,825 --> 00:06:55,245 to a Senate energy bill 117 00:06:55,555 --> 00:06:58,645 that upon passage would've incorporated the school 118 00:06:58,645 --> 00:07:00,525 department into the municipal government. 119 00:07:01,115 --> 00:07:02,405 When a large contingent 120 00:07:02,405 --> 00:07:05,405 of concerned citizens voiced opposition at a Senate hearing, 121 00:07:05,945 --> 00:07:07,525 the Senate president realized 122 00:07:07,525 --> 00:07:09,565 that these two were pulling shenanigans 123 00:07:09,945 --> 00:07:11,685 and immediately withdrew the amendment. 124 00:07:13,915 --> 00:07:17,045 Last week, Mrs. Leon cited increased efficiency 125 00:07:17,185 --> 00:07:19,645 as the driver behind the proposed charter amendment. 126 00:07:20,145 --> 00:07:22,285 She failed to cite any savings, projections 127 00:07:22,665 --> 00:07:26,845 or costs associated with the implementation representative, 128 00:07:27,115 --> 00:07:28,605 love Representative Trip 129 00:07:28,985 --> 00:07:32,165 and Mr. Church cited high costs in the need 130 00:07:32,165 --> 00:07:34,805 for a tax cap last winter. 131 00:07:35,425 --> 00:07:38,645 Any one of these people could have easily put a tax cap 132 00:07:38,645 --> 00:07:40,445 warrant article on the school ballot 133 00:07:40,665 --> 00:07:43,925 by following a remarkably uncomplicated process. 134 00:07:44,755 --> 00:07:47,885 It's outlined in chapter 32, section five. 135 00:07:48,675 --> 00:07:50,245 They failed to follow the process. 136 00:07:51,555 --> 00:07:56,485 There's another uncomplicated process in RSA Section 49 B 137 00:07:56,995 --> 00:07:59,845 that citizens can follow by working with the town clerk 138 00:08:00,185 --> 00:08:02,205 to put a charter amendment on the march ballot. 139 00:08:02,865 --> 00:08:05,685 So far they failed to initiate that process. 140 00:08:06,995 --> 00:08:09,765 There's also a straightforward process that 141 00:08:09,765 --> 00:08:12,565 with a hundred signatures they could have come to you 142 00:08:12,625 --> 00:08:15,365 to request a feasibility study be completed 143 00:08:15,905 --> 00:08:18,525 on bringing the school department in under the town charter. 144 00:08:19,365 --> 00:08:21,125 Apparently they failed to consider that process. 145 00:08:21,995 --> 00:08:25,565 They're requesting drastic changes from our town government. 146 00:08:26,155 --> 00:08:28,485 They haven't provided a financial analysis. 147 00:08:28,795 --> 00:08:31,445 There's been no legal or regulatory analysis. 148 00:08:31,795 --> 00:08:36,325 They haven't proposed any language. This is ludicrous. 149 00:08:38,025 --> 00:08:39,765 Anyone using even a little bit 150 00:08:39,765 --> 00:08:42,565 of critical thinking would question whether this is sincere 151 00:08:42,565 --> 00:08:45,045 effort or if this is simply a scheme 152 00:08:45,105 --> 00:08:47,805 to circumvent the three-fifths requirement in the statute 153 00:08:48,345 --> 00:08:49,925 to enact the school tax cap. 154 00:08:50,915 --> 00:08:53,485 This might just be another flavor of shenanigans. 155 00:08:56,195 --> 00:08:59,165 I've analyzed more than 15 years of school funding data. 156 00:08:59,825 --> 00:09:03,485 My analysis has provided me we I need to stop. 157 00:09:04,265 --> 00:09:08,125 Yes. Is there a motion to extend? Motion to extend. 158 00:09:08,315 --> 00:09:10,605 I'll second. Second. By Councilor Healy. 159 00:09:10,675 --> 00:09:14,605 Roll call vote is required. Councilor Mills? Yes. 160 00:09:14,715 --> 00:09:19,125 Councilor Huey. Yes. Councilor Chase? Yes. Councilor Flood. 161 00:09:19,345 --> 00:09:24,085 Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Councilor Spencer. 162 00:09:25,175 --> 00:09:26,805 Sorry for all the roll call votes. Yes. 163 00:09:28,625 --> 00:09:32,535 Chair votes. Yes. I've analyzed more than 15 years 164 00:09:32,555 --> 00:09:33,695 of school funding data. 165 00:09:34,515 --> 00:09:35,575 My analysis has 166 00:09:35,855 --> 00:09:38,295 provided me with objective data to demonstrate 167 00:09:38,295 --> 00:09:41,215 that the state reps in this town have harmed property 168 00:09:41,575 --> 00:09:43,855 taxpayers by millions of dollars through their votes. 169 00:09:44,515 --> 00:09:47,295 It might be possible to improve the accountability 170 00:09:47,295 --> 00:09:49,495 of our state reps if they were assigned 171 00:09:49,495 --> 00:09:50,655 to smaller districts. 172 00:09:51,285 --> 00:09:55,775 There's a process in RSA chapter 6 62 A for citizens 173 00:09:55,775 --> 00:09:57,175 to petition the town council 174 00:09:57,595 --> 00:09:59,455 to form a redistricting commission 175 00:09:59,835 --> 00:10:02,775 and then form legislative districts within the community. 176 00:10:03,515 --> 00:10:04,535 I'm following that process. 177 00:10:04,915 --> 00:10:07,375 I'm not seeking your approval or your assistance. 178 00:10:08,175 --> 00:10:10,535 I hope that you'll ask others who want 179 00:10:10,535 --> 00:10:12,575 to initiate changes in our town government 180 00:10:12,795 --> 00:10:15,095 to do the same. Thank you. 181 00:10:15,785 --> 00:10:16,215 Thank you. 182 00:10:31,985 --> 00:10:34,435 Good evening. Brian Ello six Rollin Street. 183 00:10:35,735 --> 00:10:39,635 My understanding is the council will be talking with 184 00:10:40,275 --> 00:10:44,195 Services, Talking with the school district 185 00:10:46,485 --> 00:10:48,635 about HB 1331. 186 00:10:48,935 --> 00:10:52,115 And let's be clear, HB 1331. 187 00:10:52,175 --> 00:10:53,755 No one's asking this town council 188 00:10:53,815 --> 00:10:55,475 to make a decision whether you feel 189 00:10:55,505 --> 00:10:57,315 that the schools should go underneath the town. 190 00:10:58,735 --> 00:11:02,835 The premise of the bill is to let the people 191 00:11:03,455 --> 00:11:06,155 of Derry make the decision. 192 00:11:07,155 --> 00:11:09,635 I don't care if you vote yes or no, I really don't. 193 00:11:10,575 --> 00:11:15,035 But to deny the people the right to have a say is wrong. 194 00:11:15,215 --> 00:11:17,755 And I'm glad Mr. Cunningham brought up 2015 195 00:11:17,755 --> 00:11:19,155 because I led that charge. 196 00:11:19,315 --> 00:11:20,755 I was one of people that led that charge. 197 00:11:21,855 --> 00:11:24,115 And the reason why people were angry was 198 00:11:24,115 --> 00:11:27,075 because they did not let the people have a choice. 199 00:11:30,475 --> 00:11:34,275 Secondly, I found out that there is a lawsuit 200 00:11:34,975 --> 00:11:36,875 at the state currently now 201 00:11:37,505 --> 00:11:39,075 that will probably get ironed out 202 00:11:39,075 --> 00:11:40,155 at the beginning of the year. 203 00:11:40,575 --> 00:11:43,035 And that lawsuit would overturn Claremont. 204 00:11:45,175 --> 00:11:50,075 If that is successful, that would mean the town would have 205 00:11:50,075 --> 00:11:52,635 to come up with $21 million. 206 00:11:52,825 --> 00:11:54,925 Plus the taxpayers, 207 00:11:56,385 --> 00:11:59,405 we all know what's coming down the pike in two short months. 208 00:12:00,435 --> 00:12:04,085 Okay. $10 million increase or $8 million increase actually. 209 00:12:05,825 --> 00:12:07,805 So if that gets overturned 210 00:12:07,905 --> 00:12:10,725 and this council does not let the people have a choice 211 00:12:11,545 --> 00:12:14,765 to vote in March, they're gonna come 212 00:12:14,765 --> 00:12:15,845 and they're gonna be very angry. 213 00:12:17,545 --> 00:12:20,765 So I would recommend that when you have 214 00:12:20,765 --> 00:12:22,165 that discussion, think about it. 215 00:12:22,795 --> 00:12:24,605 It's not about whether you want 216 00:12:25,185 --> 00:12:26,605 the the schools to be under the town. 217 00:12:26,715 --> 00:12:29,205 It's the question is, is do you want the people 218 00:12:29,465 --> 00:12:31,445 to have a say Thank you. 219 00:12:37,025 --> 00:12:38,485 Do I have anybody else coming up? 220 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:50,125 Well 221 00:12:55,395 --> 00:12:56,395 Good evening. 222 00:12:56,395 --> 00:12:59,525 Oops. Good evening. Can you hear me alright? 223 00:13:01,025 --> 00:13:02,765 Oh, Richard, trip 44 Winter Road. 224 00:13:05,515 --> 00:13:07,405 Well I have some good news for you tonight. 225 00:13:08,105 --> 00:13:11,885 Not anything that is gonna get people upset. 226 00:13:12,945 --> 00:13:16,645 Anyhow, I attend most 227 00:13:16,645 --> 00:13:18,005 of the school board meetings 228 00:13:18,345 --> 00:13:21,605 and at the last meeting they talked about 229 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:24,365 they're gonna have a facility tour 230 00:13:26,105 --> 00:13:30,925 and I waited till they posted the notice. 231 00:13:31,545 --> 00:13:36,125 But anyhow, on the 17th at four o'clock, 232 00:13:38,825 --> 00:13:42,285 the tour is gonna start at South Range School 233 00:13:43,625 --> 00:13:48,565 and from there it's gonna go to Gilbert h Grinnell, 234 00:13:49,665 --> 00:13:50,725 Ernest Barka, 235 00:13:53,895 --> 00:13:58,325 these new SAU building, which is what used 236 00:13:58,325 --> 00:14:00,205 to be Dairy Village 237 00:14:02,465 --> 00:14:06,645 And, And then 238 00:14:07,565 --> 00:14:10,845 West Running Brook in East Area Memorial. 239 00:14:11,105 --> 00:14:15,245 So if you're interested in what 240 00:14:17,145 --> 00:14:20,845 the second year of the school renovation has done 241 00:14:21,545 --> 00:14:23,685 to the schools and what they look like 242 00:14:24,225 --> 00:14:26,925 and what improvements have been made, like I said, 243 00:14:27,875 --> 00:14:29,645 show up at four o'clock at 244 00:14:30,655 --> 00:14:32,885 South Range and I'll be there. 245 00:14:33,105 --> 00:14:36,165 So we can, we can make a tour with the school board 246 00:14:36,865 --> 00:14:38,125 and the citizens can see 247 00:14:38,905 --> 00:14:40,765 what's what's going on in the schools. 248 00:14:40,975 --> 00:14:41,975 Thank you. 249 00:14:53,165 --> 00:14:55,565 Thank you. Erica Leon, 84 Shado Road. 250 00:14:56,125 --> 00:15:00,125 I just wanted to bring up some clarity on one of the things 251 00:15:00,125 --> 00:15:01,445 that Mr. Cunningham said. 252 00:15:01,865 --> 00:15:04,205 The town of Derry has a cooperative school district. 253 00:15:04,225 --> 00:15:05,485 It was the first cooperative school 254 00:15:05,765 --> 00:15:06,845 district formed in the state. 255 00:15:07,835 --> 00:15:10,845 When additional laws were passed about the process 256 00:15:11,145 --> 00:15:14,325 for cooperative school districts, we sort of got bundled in 257 00:15:14,325 --> 00:15:16,965 with everybody else because we had had 13 different 258 00:15:17,205 --> 00:15:19,525 districts within the town of Derry that ended up having 259 00:15:19,525 --> 00:15:22,045 to come together so that we could build Hood Middle School 260 00:15:22,985 --> 00:15:25,045 and just so we could do those processes. 261 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,845 So as the first cooperative school district, 262 00:15:28,545 --> 00:15:31,205 we actually were created by the state, not by the town. 263 00:15:31,585 --> 00:15:33,165 And the only way to make any change 264 00:15:33,165 --> 00:15:34,485 to the school district was 265 00:15:34,485 --> 00:15:36,325 by getting permission from the legislature. 266 00:15:36,745 --> 00:15:39,925 So House Bill 1331 was required to do that, 267 00:15:40,185 --> 00:15:43,005 to give the people of dairy, any voice into 268 00:15:43,005 --> 00:15:45,805 how the Dairy Cooperative School District is administered. 269 00:15:46,545 --> 00:15:49,205 You know, obviously the ball will be in your court 270 00:15:49,225 --> 00:15:50,965 or in the people's court to figure out 271 00:15:50,995 --> 00:15:52,565 what the process is going forward. 272 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:55,965 But without that law passing, there would've been no way 273 00:15:56,065 --> 00:15:57,885 for the people of Derry to make a choice about 274 00:15:57,885 --> 00:15:59,165 how the schools would be managed. 275 00:15:59,705 --> 00:16:00,285 So thank you. 276 00:16:14,015 --> 00:16:16,275 Hi, Jenna Paradise on Hubbard Hill Road. 277 00:16:16,815 --> 00:16:21,155 I'm here today with my election worker hat on. 278 00:16:21,915 --> 00:16:24,915 I wanted to speak to what somebody came up earlier 279 00:16:25,135 --> 00:16:28,955 and mentioned was the electioneering at the last election. 280 00:16:30,305 --> 00:16:32,275 I've been a an election worker 281 00:16:32,495 --> 00:16:34,915 for going on about 10 years in this town. 282 00:16:35,375 --> 00:16:37,675 And I don't think I had ever heard 283 00:16:37,695 --> 00:16:40,755 or seen about people coming in being harassed so much 284 00:16:40,755 --> 00:16:42,595 by somebody out in the parking lot. 285 00:16:43,265 --> 00:16:46,595 From my understanding there was some sort of loophole 286 00:16:46,595 --> 00:16:48,515 that allowed him to be out there. 287 00:16:49,075 --> 00:16:50,915 But I heard from several people coming in 288 00:16:51,505 --> 00:16:53,875 that he was pushing the pamphlets 289 00:16:54,295 --> 00:16:57,435 and if people said that they did not vote for that party, 290 00:16:57,545 --> 00:17:00,675 that he was swearing at them, he was also telling people 291 00:17:00,815 --> 00:17:03,355 to leave them in the polls, which is illegal. 292 00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:05,995 And it also added a little bit more work for us. 293 00:17:06,055 --> 00:17:07,395 But that is besides the point. 294 00:17:07,415 --> 00:17:09,555 We had to do a constant sweep of the polls 295 00:17:09,815 --> 00:17:14,675 and we found many of the pamphlets being left in there. 296 00:17:15,215 --> 00:17:19,435 And from my understanding there is New Hampshire statutes 297 00:17:19,435 --> 00:17:22,355 that are just going to read to you on electioneering. 298 00:17:22,375 --> 00:17:23,675 And I'm hoping that the town 299 00:17:23,675 --> 00:17:25,875 of Derry can do something about this 300 00:17:26,465 --> 00:17:27,955 town shall have, hold on. 301 00:17:28,075 --> 00:17:29,595 I don't have my readers. I'm getting old 302 00:17:30,465 --> 00:17:31,515 town shall have the bill. 303 00:17:31,715 --> 00:17:34,355 The power to make bylaws regulating the distribution 304 00:17:34,375 --> 00:17:36,395 of campaign materials or electioneering 305 00:17:36,575 --> 00:17:39,355 or any activity which affects the safety, welfare, 306 00:17:39,615 --> 00:17:42,155 and rights of voters at any election held 307 00:17:42,175 --> 00:17:44,395 for any purpose in such town. 308 00:17:44,785 --> 00:17:47,115 Such power shall not extend to the display of printed 309 00:17:47,175 --> 00:17:48,635 or written matter attached 310 00:17:48,635 --> 00:17:50,365 to any legally parked motor vehicle. 311 00:17:50,905 --> 00:17:52,165 Nor shall such power extend 312 00:17:52,165 --> 00:17:55,445 to activities conducted wholly on private property so as 313 00:17:55,445 --> 00:17:57,205 to not interfere with people approaching 314 00:17:57,345 --> 00:17:58,845 or entering a polling place. 315 00:17:59,305 --> 00:18:02,005 And I definitely think that what this gentleman was doing 316 00:18:02,745 --> 00:18:06,045 was interfering with people entering the polling place. 317 00:18:06,045 --> 00:18:08,725 Even though it was a little bit beyond the gauntlet, 318 00:18:08,945 --> 00:18:10,805 it was still in the Pinkerton parking lot 319 00:18:10,825 --> 00:18:12,285 and that was the main parking lot 320 00:18:12,285 --> 00:18:14,245 and the main entrance for people to come into. 321 00:18:14,705 --> 00:18:17,085 So I'm hoping that we can put something on the books 322 00:18:17,265 --> 00:18:20,725 before the next election in no, in November there's going 323 00:18:20,725 --> 00:18:23,325 to be quite a bit more people coming in 324 00:18:24,225 --> 00:18:27,565 and I hope that we can do something to prevent this. 325 00:18:29,425 --> 00:18:32,645 As a side note, I really think that if you are going 326 00:18:32,705 --> 00:18:36,165 to be voting, that you should come in as an educated voter 327 00:18:36,705 --> 00:18:40,325 and not have to rely on somebody handing you a cheat sheet 328 00:18:40,325 --> 00:18:42,125 to know who you need to vote for. 329 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:43,455 Thank you. 330 00:18:50,355 --> 00:18:53,085 Good evening counsel. Michael Ann, 84 Sdo Road. 331 00:18:54,485 --> 00:18:56,845 Relative to the voting, I can see why so many 332 00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:59,245 of our students graduate with the inability to read 333 00:18:59,875 --> 00:19:01,725 what happened at Pinkerton, 334 00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:04,605 which is private property was 100% lawful. 335 00:19:06,095 --> 00:19:08,165 There were people who called the Attorney General 336 00:19:08,165 --> 00:19:11,245 of New Hampshire, who I think knows the law better than 337 00:19:11,245 --> 00:19:12,605 anyone else who has been up here. 338 00:19:12,995 --> 00:19:14,605 Nothing illegal happened. 339 00:19:14,865 --> 00:19:16,965 Yes, it was electioneering on private property. 340 00:19:18,155 --> 00:19:20,845 This town council, in addition to having an illegal meeting 341 00:19:22,425 --> 00:19:24,565 at the voting booths after that. 342 00:19:24,615 --> 00:19:27,885 Right? You had a quorum there. A quorum was assembled there. 343 00:19:27,985 --> 00:19:29,925 That's unlawful. Absolutely. 344 00:19:30,585 --> 00:19:32,725 The behavior some of you have exhibited online, 345 00:19:34,225 --> 00:19:36,245 far exceeded anything that gentleman did out there. 346 00:19:36,245 --> 00:19:39,245 Handing out cards, the language used up here, 347 00:19:40,715 --> 00:19:42,645 used online by some of these counselors 348 00:19:42,665 --> 00:19:45,685 to affect votes was absolutely deplorable. 349 00:19:46,235 --> 00:19:49,805 Same stuff about myself, my family. Absolutely untrue. 350 00:19:49,915 --> 00:19:53,525 It's disgusting if people won an election year, whether it's 351 00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:55,405 for conservatives, communists, Nazis, 352 00:19:55,605 --> 00:19:56,885 whatever you want, feel free. 353 00:19:57,915 --> 00:19:59,165 Some of us believe in freedom 354 00:19:59,225 --> 00:20:01,885 and if you want to tarnish us, call us horrible names. 355 00:20:02,105 --> 00:20:03,105 That's a shame. 356 00:20:11,235 --> 00:20:13,855 Mr. Chair, we're seeing none rise online. Motion 357 00:20:13,875 --> 00:20:15,655 To close the public hearing. Second 358 00:20:16,155 --> 00:20:17,855 Motion made to close the public hearing 359 00:20:17,955 --> 00:20:19,095 by Councilor Mills. 360 00:20:19,095 --> 00:20:22,975 Seconded by Councilor Foot. Councilor Chase? Yes. 361 00:20:23,365 --> 00:20:28,175 Councilor Flood. Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Councilor Mills. 362 00:20:28,475 --> 00:20:32,335 Yes. Councilor Healy. Yes. Councilor Spencer? 363 00:20:33,235 --> 00:20:35,935 Yes. And the chair votes? Yes. 364 00:20:36,395 --> 00:20:37,615 Public hearing is closed. 365 00:20:42,555 --> 00:20:44,295 Moving on to the consent agenda 366 00:20:46,285 --> 00:20:49,365 item 26 dash 84 to prove the minutes 367 00:20:49,365 --> 00:20:51,525 of the September 1st, 2026 meeting 368 00:20:52,795 --> 00:20:55,525 item 26 dash 84 85. 369 00:20:56,485 --> 00:21:01,005 Resolution number 2026 dash 0 5 2 To accept a Bureau 370 00:21:01,065 --> 00:21:03,685 of Justice Assistance grant for law enforcement equipment, 371 00:21:04,505 --> 00:21:06,965 please see attached a staff report 372 00:21:06,965 --> 00:21:10,845 and resolution number 2026 on it. 373 00:21:10,845 --> 00:21:12,125 But a public hearing will be scheduled 374 00:21:12,125 --> 00:21:14,365 for October 6th, 2026. 375 00:21:16,125 --> 00:21:18,845 Resolution 26 dash 86, 376 00:21:19,125 --> 00:21:23,845 resolution 2026 dash 0 5 4 to approve covenants 377 00:21:23,965 --> 00:21:26,525 and commercial industrial tax relief application 378 00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:27,925 for 12 a street. 379 00:21:28,645 --> 00:21:29,925 A public hearing is required 380 00:21:29,985 --> 00:21:33,365 and it'll be scheduled on October 6th, 2020 sixth. 381 00:21:34,225 --> 00:21:35,645 On motion on the consent agenda. 382 00:21:36,545 --> 00:21:37,925 So move second. 383 00:21:38,375 --> 00:21:40,725 Moved by Councilor Mills. Seconded by Councilor Foot. 384 00:21:41,075 --> 00:21:45,125 Councilor Chase? Yes. Councilor Flood. Yes. Councilor Foot? 385 00:21:45,185 --> 00:21:48,885 Yes. Councilor Mills. Yes. Councillor Healy. Yes. 386 00:21:49,215 --> 00:21:50,215 Councillor Spencer? 387 00:21:51,185 --> 00:21:54,885 Yes. And chair votes? Yes. Consent Agenda passes. 388 00:21:57,115 --> 00:21:59,205 Chair's report. First person is 389 00:22:00,985 --> 00:22:02,805 our town clerk, Tina Guilford. 390 00:22:04,585 --> 00:22:07,245 She'll be presenting on the state primary. 391 00:22:22,795 --> 00:22:23,885 Good evening counselors. 392 00:22:27,105 --> 00:22:29,045 So we had our primary, last Tuesday 393 00:22:29,945 --> 00:22:32,565 we had 4,903 voters. 394 00:22:33,785 --> 00:22:37,165 So it was well within the estimate that I had given you. 395 00:22:40,505 --> 00:22:44,165 We had 2,523 Republicans, 396 00:22:44,225 --> 00:22:48,245 2,380 Democrats ballots. 397 00:22:48,985 --> 00:22:51,205 So that's kind of the breakdown. 398 00:22:52,325 --> 00:22:54,645 Results are available on the 399 00:22:56,195 --> 00:22:58,885 town website if anybody wants to look at those. 400 00:23:00,525 --> 00:23:02,005 I do wanna issue thank yous 401 00:23:02,265 --> 00:23:07,005 to the Town council for all your support. 402 00:23:08,205 --> 00:23:09,405 I do wanna address one comment 403 00:23:09,435 --> 00:23:12,725 that was made require it is a requirement per the 404 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:16,645 New Hampshire Con New Hampshire constitution that a quorum 405 00:23:16,645 --> 00:23:17,805 of the counsel be present. 406 00:23:19,545 --> 00:23:21,165 And it is something that the Attorney 407 00:23:21,165 --> 00:23:22,645 General's office inspects. 408 00:23:22,715 --> 00:23:25,565 It's on their checklist. So four 409 00:23:25,565 --> 00:23:27,725 of you were there a good portion of the day. 410 00:23:27,735 --> 00:23:29,445 Three of you had pro Temes. 411 00:23:30,655 --> 00:23:35,365 Thank you Counselor Foote Mills and Healy for your pro tems. 412 00:23:36,505 --> 00:23:39,765 So we did have for a good portion of the day, 413 00:23:41,495 --> 00:23:44,445 seven counselors present, which is great. 414 00:23:45,545 --> 00:23:48,005 And the attorney general's office does look for that. 415 00:23:48,265 --> 00:23:49,645 And you are all introduced 416 00:23:49,865 --> 00:23:52,085 to the inspector from the Attorney General's office 417 00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:53,445 as were your protos. 418 00:23:54,305 --> 00:23:57,765 So I thank you. I'd like 419 00:23:57,765 --> 00:24:00,605 to thank my fellow election officials, our town moderator, 420 00:24:01,475 --> 00:24:04,365 Dave Nelson for another late night. 421 00:24:05,585 --> 00:24:06,965 Our supervisors of the checklist 422 00:24:08,095 --> 00:24:10,965 doing a great job registering over 140 voters. 423 00:24:13,065 --> 00:24:16,245 I'd like to thank dairy police and dairy fire. 424 00:24:16,645 --> 00:24:19,365 I know they're in the room for all your support 425 00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:23,125 and we're gearing up for November now. 426 00:24:25,225 --> 00:24:27,405 I'd like to thank everybody here at Town hall. 427 00:24:28,565 --> 00:24:31,405 I do know that when it's election time, Tina kind 428 00:24:31,405 --> 00:24:34,285 of takes over lots of spaces and the assessing department 429 00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:37,685 and the tax department, they just kind of smile and nod 430 00:24:37,685 --> 00:24:38,725 and they don't complain. 431 00:24:39,025 --> 00:24:41,365 And I really appreciate that support. 432 00:24:41,885 --> 00:24:44,005 I appreciate the town administrator support 433 00:24:45,155 --> 00:24:46,325 finance department. 434 00:24:46,875 --> 00:24:50,605 This is a team effort. We cannot do this by ourselves. 435 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:54,005 And I want to thank our poll workers. 436 00:24:55,545 --> 00:24:58,205 We had almost a hundred people 437 00:24:58,515 --> 00:25:00,325 that we hired for the primary. 438 00:25:02,185 --> 00:25:03,645 I'd especially like to thank the ones 439 00:25:03,645 --> 00:25:05,245 who actually volunteered their time. 440 00:25:05,705 --> 00:25:07,285 And we actually had one poll worker 441 00:25:07,505 --> 00:25:09,805 who worked the polls open to close entirely 442 00:25:09,905 --> 00:25:11,685 as a volunteer and did not get paid. 443 00:25:12,385 --> 00:25:15,885 So again, I thank them for their volunteerism 444 00:25:16,945 --> 00:25:19,485 and I want to thank our voters who came out to vote. 445 00:25:21,385 --> 00:25:23,765 We had over 200 ballots that had 446 00:25:23,765 --> 00:25:25,965 to be fully hand counted due to over votes. 447 00:25:27,245 --> 00:25:29,645 I say this again as a friendly reminder. 448 00:25:29,825 --> 00:25:31,725 Our state rep race is a vote 10, 449 00:25:32,355 --> 00:25:35,325 even though we're in district 13, you don't get to vote 450 00:25:35,345 --> 00:25:37,045 for 13, you vote for 10. 451 00:25:39,235 --> 00:25:43,205 Some people had some issues with that last Tuesday we had 452 00:25:44,195 --> 00:25:45,925 just shy of a thousand write-ins. 453 00:25:47,875 --> 00:25:50,365 They are again available on the town website. 454 00:25:52,565 --> 00:25:53,845 I, I really don't understand. 455 00:25:54,445 --> 00:25:56,525 I really don't understand the ones who fill the bubble 456 00:25:56,545 --> 00:25:57,925 and then don't write anything at all. 457 00:25:59,065 --> 00:26:01,485 It is a lot of time for every, you know, for us 458 00:26:01,485 --> 00:26:03,205 to put eyeballs on all of those, 459 00:26:03,205 --> 00:26:05,245 which is why we are there till almost 2:00 AM 460 00:26:08,505 --> 00:26:10,765 Our supervisors of the checklist will be having their next 461 00:26:10,765 --> 00:26:13,605 session on September 29th. 462 00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:17,165 That means that all the people 463 00:26:17,165 --> 00:26:18,845 that have come in since the primary 464 00:26:19,105 --> 00:26:21,565 and there have been quite a few, we had another, 465 00:26:21,655 --> 00:26:24,205 quite a few people today changing their party affiliation 466 00:26:24,525 --> 00:26:25,605 'cause they were in the wrong party. 467 00:26:26,225 --> 00:26:28,285 So those changes will take effect on the 29th. 468 00:26:29,025 --> 00:26:33,045 So I advise everyone, not that party matters in November, 469 00:26:33,345 --> 00:26:36,965 but that on the 30th you start checking online, 470 00:26:37,015 --> 00:26:39,365 check a party affiliation, make sure you're in the party 471 00:26:39,365 --> 00:26:42,965 that you're in because the presidential primary will be 472 00:26:43,045 --> 00:26:44,645 coming in January, 2028. 473 00:26:45,145 --> 00:26:46,565 And I would love to see a primary 474 00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:49,165 where our poll workers are not screamed at 475 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:51,405 because you're in the wrong party. 476 00:26:53,505 --> 00:26:55,285 It, it is disappointing. 477 00:26:55,905 --> 00:26:59,245 And I do understand that the cutoff will probably be at the 478 00:26:59,245 --> 00:27:00,765 end of September, beginning of October 479 00:27:01,905 --> 00:27:05,045 and you're not thinking about anything about the 480 00:27:05,045 --> 00:27:06,725 presidential primary in 2027. 481 00:27:06,985 --> 00:27:09,005 So just while it's in your brain now, 482 00:27:09,435 --> 00:27:10,605 make sure you're in the party 483 00:27:10,605 --> 00:27:15,605 that you wanna be in Graphic. 484 00:27:20,265 --> 00:27:25,205 Go to presentation. So while Owen puts up the 485 00:27:25,325 --> 00:27:27,445 graphic, we're gonna move to 486 00:27:28,585 --> 00:27:30,645 the state general election 487 00:27:31,125 --> 00:27:32,605 November 3rd at Pinkerton Academy. 488 00:27:32,695 --> 00:27:35,365 7:00 AM to 8:00 PM The 489 00:27:37,395 --> 00:27:38,855 bypass will be closed. 490 00:27:39,195 --> 00:27:42,215 We will be posting videos that the fire department made 491 00:27:42,215 --> 00:27:45,735 for us in 2024 for the traffic patterns so 492 00:27:45,735 --> 00:27:48,095 that everybody knows which way to go. 493 00:27:49,785 --> 00:27:53,055 There will be signs up around town reminding people. 494 00:27:55,655 --> 00:27:57,495 I am really hopeful that it will go as well 495 00:27:57,735 --> 00:27:59,015 as it did in 2024. 496 00:27:59,375 --> 00:28:02,135 'cause I didn't get a lot of complaints in 2024. 497 00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:05,575 I did get a lot of complaints about the primary 498 00:28:05,765 --> 00:28:07,055 that just passed last Tuesday. 499 00:28:09,445 --> 00:28:11,375 Most of them centered on the election hearing. 500 00:28:12,195 --> 00:28:16,615 So you'll be hearing more from me on that. 501 00:28:16,955 --> 00:28:18,455 But in the future. 502 00:28:19,635 --> 00:28:23,455 Anyway, that is what I have 503 00:28:25,515 --> 00:28:28,495 and if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. 504 00:28:32,375 --> 00:28:35,435 Any questions? No questions. Just a comment. 505 00:28:35,675 --> 00:28:37,355 I just wanna thank our town clerk 506 00:28:37,495 --> 00:28:40,795 for another very successful election in all our election 507 00:28:40,795 --> 00:28:42,355 officials that worked that day 508 00:28:43,135 --> 00:28:46,155 and also on the lead up to elections. 509 00:28:46,155 --> 00:28:48,635 Not a lot of people know all the work that goes in 510 00:28:48,635 --> 00:28:50,675 with the machine testing, the tabulator testing, 511 00:28:51,875 --> 00:28:53,875 counting the ballots, absentees 512 00:28:53,875 --> 00:28:57,035 and all, all that work leading up to that day. 513 00:28:57,095 --> 00:29:00,755 So it's not just on that day, it's all the, the lead up 514 00:29:01,015 --> 00:29:04,595 and the, the late day on election. 515 00:29:05,515 --> 00:29:07,315 I ran into Tina at two 30 in the morning 516 00:29:07,655 --> 00:29:09,875 as she was finishing up. So 517 00:29:10,215 --> 00:29:13,075 Yes, we, we met at the Darry police station. 518 00:29:13,255 --> 00:29:14,595 He was turning in his results. 519 00:29:14,755 --> 00:29:16,515 I was turning mine so they could be 520 00:29:16,515 --> 00:29:17,755 delivered to the state police to go 521 00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:18,915 Talk. And what time was that again? 522 00:29:19,655 --> 00:29:23,555 It was about two 40 or so in the morning. 523 00:29:24,145 --> 00:29:25,195 Yeah, it was late. 524 00:29:26,695 --> 00:29:28,555 And then I went home and took a hot shower 525 00:29:28,775 --> 00:29:31,675 and I was back in this building sometime 526 00:29:31,675 --> 00:29:33,115 between 7, 7 30 in the morning. 527 00:29:35,355 --> 00:29:39,555 I know that Concor Spencer has some comments. 528 00:29:42,355 --> 00:29:45,305 Thank you. Yeah, I just, I just wanna echo off of what a, 529 00:29:45,375 --> 00:29:46,385 what Tina said and, 530 00:29:46,405 --> 00:29:49,785 and everybody's already kind of heard this election workers, 531 00:29:50,065 --> 00:29:53,025 I, I wanna point out that Tina worked really hard along 532 00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:54,545 with our moderator Dave Nelson 533 00:29:55,005 --> 00:29:57,145 and our printed tapes of our results. 534 00:29:57,285 --> 00:29:58,745 So all the results that came 535 00:29:58,745 --> 00:30:01,665 through a ballot machine were posted within the hour 536 00:30:02,125 --> 00:30:03,665 of the polls closing. 537 00:30:04,485 --> 00:30:06,345 You always know you're gonna have some hand counts. 538 00:30:06,345 --> 00:30:09,225 We did have some confusion with 13 versus 10, so 539 00:30:09,255 --> 00:30:10,585 that caused a little extra. 540 00:30:11,005 --> 00:30:12,825 But almost a thousand write-ins. 541 00:30:14,965 --> 00:30:16,145 I'm frankly frustrated. 542 00:30:16,485 --> 00:30:18,625 We have people come almost every week that like 543 00:30:18,625 --> 00:30:20,105 to complain about wasting of money 544 00:30:20,285 --> 00:30:21,825 and taxpayer money being used. 545 00:30:22,725 --> 00:30:24,905 The taxpayers caused a waste of money on Tuesday. 546 00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:26,545 When you write in names, 547 00:30:26,865 --> 00:30:28,585 I would never take away somebody's right 548 00:30:28,805 --> 00:30:30,065 to have a write in vote. 549 00:30:30,535 --> 00:30:35,025 However, if you vote for somebody who is a cartoon character 550 00:30:35,615 --> 00:30:39,865 dead or does not live in the town, district or state 551 00:30:39,885 --> 00:30:41,305 and is not eligible for the race, 552 00:30:41,925 --> 00:30:43,545 you are wasting taxpayer money. 553 00:30:44,045 --> 00:30:47,105 The town clerk has to stay there and all of the team 554 00:30:47,285 --> 00:30:48,305 and has to stay. 555 00:30:48,725 --> 00:30:52,225 You paid fire, you paid police, you paid election workers 556 00:30:52,885 --> 00:30:56,905 to stay for hours after the elections closed 557 00:30:57,135 --> 00:31:00,225 because of write-ins that were not valid votes. 558 00:31:00,685 --> 00:31:03,465 So I encourage people that think they, if you think you have 559 00:31:03,465 --> 00:31:04,865 to fill something in, you don't. 560 00:31:05,325 --> 00:31:07,345 And I encourage the people that vote for 561 00:31:08,665 --> 00:31:09,785 absolutely invalid people 562 00:31:10,085 --> 00:31:13,585 or cartoon characters, which are a lot to think about 563 00:31:13,585 --> 00:31:16,985 that next time you do it that each one of those ads time 564 00:31:17,135 --> 00:31:18,665 that hand counts have to happen. 565 00:31:18,665 --> 00:31:21,785 Reconciliations have to happen to make sure we we see it 566 00:31:22,245 --> 00:31:25,105 and then read it and that people have to stay 567 00:31:25,165 --> 00:31:27,225 and get paid while that happens. 568 00:31:27,845 --> 00:31:29,785 And that is costing taxpayers money. 569 00:31:30,485 --> 00:31:31,905 And that's all I have to say. Well actually no, 570 00:31:31,985 --> 00:31:34,065 I will also say thank you to all those people 571 00:31:34,215 --> 00:31:36,905 that stayed late and did all that and that's all. 572 00:31:36,915 --> 00:31:37,915 Thank you. 573 00:31:40,305 --> 00:31:41,305 I do have two comments. 574 00:31:43,085 --> 00:31:46,705 I'm a stipend so I don't get paid to be there 575 00:31:46,965 --> 00:31:49,185 to be here in this building at 5:00 AM and 576 00:31:49,185 --> 00:31:51,225 and to not get home until almost three. 577 00:31:51,775 --> 00:31:53,785 Yeah, no I didn't get paid anything extra. 578 00:31:55,885 --> 00:32:00,145 And I will also say we need more poll workers. 579 00:32:00,565 --> 00:32:03,105 So if you're someone who likes to write in these things, 580 00:32:04,025 --> 00:32:07,545 I challenge you to sign up and come work 581 00:32:07,925 --> 00:32:10,865 and count at the end of the night, come join us 582 00:32:11,045 --> 00:32:12,265 so you can see what it's like. 583 00:32:17,045 --> 00:32:21,225 Any other comments? I just have one is you already stole 584 00:32:21,225 --> 00:32:22,785 my thunder on write in votes. 585 00:32:22,965 --> 00:32:25,145 But thank you for your hard work 586 00:32:25,605 --> 00:32:29,225 and also thanks to the public works in Pinkerton. 587 00:32:29,225 --> 00:32:32,185 Staff would help clean up when the election was over. 588 00:32:33,215 --> 00:32:37,825 Everybody works hard for this to make this actually yes, 589 00:32:37,825 --> 00:32:39,940 there were some hiccups but it was a very smooth 590 00:32:40,025 --> 00:32:41,525 day logistically. 591 00:32:42,665 --> 00:32:44,765 So thank you for organizing it. 592 00:32:44,895 --> 00:32:48,445 Thank you to the moderator Dave Nelson 593 00:32:48,745 --> 00:32:49,885 for organizing everything. 594 00:32:50,505 --> 00:32:51,685 And again, 595 00:32:51,985 --> 00:32:54,925 if you really wanna understand democracy, go work the polls. 596 00:32:55,185 --> 00:32:56,685 And I don't mean by holding signs, 597 00:32:56,845 --> 00:32:59,965 I mean actually go physically in there and 598 00:33:00,625 --> 00:33:03,525 and assist the voters count the ballots. 599 00:33:06,125 --> 00:33:06,595 Thank you. 600 00:33:17,905 --> 00:33:20,715 Next item on the chairman's report is an appointment 601 00:33:20,775 --> 00:33:23,715 to the Dairy conservation com commission 602 00:33:24,415 --> 00:33:27,195 and I nominate Linda Comy 603 00:33:27,195 --> 00:33:29,915 to the Dairy Conservation Commission as a member with a term 604 00:33:29,915 --> 00:33:32,635 to expire on March 31st, 2028. 605 00:33:33,095 --> 00:33:35,755 Second that Seconded by Councilor Mills. 606 00:33:35,755 --> 00:33:40,635 Do I have any discussion? Nope. Councilor Chase? Yes. 607 00:33:40,905 --> 00:33:45,235 Councilor Flood. Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Councilor Mills? 608 00:33:45,615 --> 00:33:49,155 Yes. Councilor Healey? Yes. Councilor Spencer? 609 00:33:50,855 --> 00:33:52,995 Yes. And the chair votes? Yes. 610 00:33:53,715 --> 00:33:57,035 When did Cons Conrad is appointed by vote of seven to zero. 611 00:33:59,295 --> 00:34:02,955 Couple of other announcements, just to reiterate, 612 00:34:03,345 --> 00:34:07,595 Charlie Buzzle, Hattie Ergen was a huge supporter 613 00:34:07,655 --> 00:34:08,915 of East Area 614 00:34:08,915 --> 00:34:12,235 and dairy firefighters throughout her entire life. 615 00:34:14,135 --> 00:34:15,835 And it is nice to see 616 00:34:15,835 --> 00:34:18,355 that the fire department will be honored hearing her 617 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:23,075 by planting a tree on September 20th. 618 00:34:23,075 --> 00:34:24,155 If you want more information, 619 00:34:24,155 --> 00:34:26,595 please contact the fire department or check their website 620 00:34:26,595 --> 00:34:28,115 and give you the schedule of events. 621 00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:34,115 The next thing is just want to congratulate our own 622 00:34:34,915 --> 00:34:38,395 counselor, Doug Flood his, 623 00:34:39,575 --> 00:34:43,275 the charity that he helped found the Jason R Flood Memorial 624 00:34:43,805 --> 00:34:45,555 Pizza Stock or Pizza. 625 00:34:45,785 --> 00:34:49,235 Yeah. Pizza Stock. A charity to help 626 00:34:50,305 --> 00:34:52,155 educate people about mental health 627 00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,235 and suicide prevention, particularly with teenagers 628 00:34:55,235 --> 00:34:58,195 through music and counseling, has been recognized 629 00:34:58,975 --> 00:35:00,995 by the Greater Dairy One 630 00:35:00,995 --> 00:35:04,155 and Dairy Chamber of Commerce as Charity of the year. 631 00:35:04,775 --> 00:35:06,235 So congratulations. 632 00:35:06,235 --> 00:35:07,755 Daniel, your 633 00:35:07,755 --> 00:35:11,515 or your wife, Daniel Flood as who's the president? 634 00:35:11,745 --> 00:35:13,435 Vice President Mike 635 00:35:14,325 --> 00:35:15,325 Caras. 636 00:35:15,325 --> 00:35:17,595 Mike Caras, treasurer Lee Madero. 637 00:35:18,395 --> 00:35:22,115 Secretary Craig Cunningham. And members of the board. 638 00:35:22,355 --> 00:35:26,755 Jennifer Besson Cuthbert, Gina Cino, Steve Dino 639 00:35:27,575 --> 00:35:28,635 and Josh Tubbs. 640 00:35:28,635 --> 00:35:30,835 And again, thank you Doug for founding it. 641 00:35:30,965 --> 00:35:31,395 Thank you. 642 00:35:39,555 --> 00:35:42,485 Last issue is regarding House Bill 1331. 643 00:35:43,565 --> 00:35:46,165 The DER Town Council has heard the requests 644 00:35:46,165 --> 00:35:48,645 and comments on House Bill 31 645 00:35:49,065 --> 00:35:52,805 and of those that spoke at the last meeting in this meeting. 646 00:35:53,825 --> 00:35:55,965 So we have asked the TA to gather facts 647 00:35:56,065 --> 00:35:59,125 and information on this complex issue so 648 00:35:59,125 --> 00:36:02,365 that we may act in an informed and appropriate manner 649 00:36:02,545 --> 00:36:03,925 and do our due diligence. 650 00:36:04,265 --> 00:36:07,645 In the meantime, we ask everyone to be patient. Thank you. 651 00:36:09,705 --> 00:36:11,485 Now we'll move to the Todd Administrator's report. 652 00:36:13,355 --> 00:36:16,925 Good evening. I've got a couple of items to share tonight. 653 00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:19,125 The Dairy Police Department recognizes 654 00:36:19,125 --> 00:36:20,765 that effective leadership is one 655 00:36:20,765 --> 00:36:21,925 of the most critical components 656 00:36:21,925 --> 00:36:24,205 of a professional law organization. 657 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:26,405 And investing in leadership development ensures 658 00:36:26,405 --> 00:36:29,405 that supervisors and command staff possess the knowledge, 659 00:36:29,405 --> 00:36:32,885 skills and abilities to lead personnel manage complex 660 00:36:32,885 --> 00:36:34,125 organization challenges 661 00:36:34,125 --> 00:36:37,645 and provide the highest level of service to the community. 662 00:36:38,315 --> 00:36:42,245 Several members of the department have attended training 663 00:36:42,245 --> 00:36:43,285 through the FBI, 664 00:36:43,465 --> 00:36:46,085 law Enforcement Executive Development Association, 665 00:36:46,155 --> 00:36:47,805 also known as lda 666 00:36:48,265 --> 00:36:52,565 and Chief George Filia is here this evening with some guests 667 00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:55,365 to present an award tonight 668 00:36:55,865 --> 00:36:57,925 to the department and individuals. 669 00:36:57,985 --> 00:36:58,985 So George, 670 00:37:01,735 --> 00:37:02,735 Thank you Mike. 671 00:37:02,735 --> 00:37:05,765 Thank you Thomas. I wanted to highlight what I consider 672 00:37:05,785 --> 00:37:08,525 to be a pretty significant milestone achievement 673 00:37:09,025 --> 00:37:10,165 by our command staff. 674 00:37:11,785 --> 00:37:15,045 One of the things that, do you have a slide there 675 00:37:15,045 --> 00:37:17,645 for oh one? Yep, 676 00:37:17,695 --> 00:37:18,695 We're bringing that up right now. 677 00:37:18,695 --> 00:37:22,285 Thank you Chief. One of the things, the first things 678 00:37:22,355 --> 00:37:25,285 that previous town administrator Dave Karen asked 679 00:37:25,285 --> 00:37:28,325 of me when he hired me as Chief 42, excuse me, 680 00:37:28,325 --> 00:37:29,685 four years ago, was 681 00:37:29,685 --> 00:37:33,085 that I developed a leadership succession planning plan to 682 00:37:33,085 --> 00:37:35,485 that end the town engaged with attorney Eric Daigle, 683 00:37:35,665 --> 00:37:38,725 the Daigle Law Group, and to assist us with that task. 684 00:37:39,145 --> 00:37:42,245 One of the chief recommendations by attorney Daigle made at 685 00:37:42,245 --> 00:37:45,365 that time was to increase the level of supervisory command 686 00:37:45,365 --> 00:37:48,125 and executive development development training offered 687 00:37:48,125 --> 00:37:50,405 to our current and future leaders. 688 00:37:51,585 --> 00:37:53,565 We had long been involved with the FBI, 689 00:37:53,565 --> 00:37:57,285 law Enforcement Executive Development Association 690 00:37:57,345 --> 00:37:59,605 and were aware that they offered some of the best training 691 00:38:00,155 --> 00:38:01,285 this country has to offer. 692 00:38:02,145 --> 00:38:05,965 In fact, FBI leader offers a trilogy of classes entitled 693 00:38:06,845 --> 00:38:08,205 Supervisory Leadership Institute, 694 00:38:08,755 --> 00:38:10,245 command Leadership Institute, 695 00:38:10,585 --> 00:38:12,565 and the Executive Leadership Institute. 696 00:38:14,075 --> 00:38:16,765 Each week long course is designed to prepare an officer 697 00:38:16,785 --> 00:38:19,565 to be successful from the rank of sergeant right up 698 00:38:19,565 --> 00:38:23,005 to the rank of chief with a fair degree of pride. 699 00:38:23,125 --> 00:38:25,765 I appear this evening with our entire command staff, 700 00:38:26,035 --> 00:38:28,845 including all five lieutenants, both captains 701 00:38:30,145 --> 00:38:32,765 and each of us have completed the trilogy of classes 702 00:38:32,985 --> 00:38:36,325 and individually earned the FBI lead a Trilogy Award. 703 00:38:37,235 --> 00:38:40,565 This accomplishment makes the DER Police Department eligible 704 00:38:40,565 --> 00:38:41,805 for an agency award. 705 00:38:43,145 --> 00:38:45,565 I'm pleased to introduce the Chief Operations Officer 706 00:38:45,585 --> 00:38:47,925 for the FBI leader, Michael Robinson Senior 707 00:38:48,025 --> 00:38:49,445 for a presentation to the department. 708 00:38:51,495 --> 00:38:52,205 Thank you. Chief 709 00:38:55,845 --> 00:38:56,495 Town Council. 710 00:38:56,895 --> 00:38:59,855 Greetings Town Manager Administrator. Yep. 711 00:39:00,215 --> 00:39:01,335 Greetings to you as well. 712 00:39:01,395 --> 00:39:04,455 Mr. Fowler, chief fii, thank you 713 00:39:04,455 --> 00:39:06,015 for having us here this evening. 714 00:39:06,545 --> 00:39:07,975 First of all, good evening everyone. 715 00:39:08,915 --> 00:39:11,455 As chief has stated, my name is Michael Robinson. 716 00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:15,295 I'm the Chief Operating Officer for FBI lita. FBI. 717 00:39:15,445 --> 00:39:16,975 Lita is an organization 718 00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:19,015 that does law enforcement leadership 719 00:39:19,335 --> 00:39:20,575 training across the world. 720 00:39:21,965 --> 00:39:23,495 Each year. For the last couple 721 00:39:23,495 --> 00:39:25,655 of years we've trained about 20,000 722 00:39:26,195 --> 00:39:28,775 law enforcement professionals across the United States 723 00:39:29,395 --> 00:39:33,535 as well as in foreign countries as well on leadership. 724 00:39:34,315 --> 00:39:38,055 And there are very few departments 725 00:39:38,645 --> 00:39:40,975 that will show the level of dedication 726 00:39:42,005 --> 00:39:46,735 that this department here has shown in Derry New Hampshire. 727 00:39:47,365 --> 00:39:51,455 They've shown a commitment to investing in their personnel. 728 00:39:51,825 --> 00:39:53,055 Thank you. Town Council 729 00:39:53,435 --> 00:39:56,735 or whoever handles the budget to support that effort 730 00:39:56,735 --> 00:40:00,175 because we know it's not a singular issue. 731 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:01,615 It takes the whole town 732 00:40:01,715 --> 00:40:04,215 to actually support departments when they're 733 00:40:05,055 --> 00:40:09,135 pursuing something such as the FBI Leader A Trilogy Award, 734 00:40:10,195 --> 00:40:14,335 as the chief has stated, the Trilogy Award goes to agencies 735 00:40:14,835 --> 00:40:17,735 who have made the commitment to ensure that each member 736 00:40:18,235 --> 00:40:21,175 of their executive team, specifically members 737 00:40:21,175 --> 00:40:25,895 of their command staff, have completed our flagship program. 738 00:40:26,515 --> 00:40:28,855 And the flag flagship program for us, 739 00:40:29,275 --> 00:40:31,095 and it has been for quite some time, 740 00:40:31,715 --> 00:40:33,535 is our supervisory leadership course, 741 00:40:33,545 --> 00:40:36,695 which talks about everything you need to make sure 742 00:40:36,725 --> 00:40:38,335 that individuals are aware of 743 00:40:38,355 --> 00:40:42,055 and understand the perspective of the first line supervisor. 744 00:40:42,685 --> 00:40:44,975 Then there's a Command Leadership Institute 745 00:40:45,385 --> 00:40:48,615 where we focus on those that are in the command ranks 746 00:40:48,995 --> 00:40:52,175 and those individuals who assist the chief in running 747 00:40:52,205 --> 00:40:56,255 that department and they gain a perspective at that level. 748 00:40:56,675 --> 00:40:58,975 And then there's the Executive Leadership Institute. 749 00:40:59,615 --> 00:41:02,535 Those individuals learn this perspective of the chief 750 00:41:03,155 --> 00:41:04,655 and they get a clear understanding 751 00:41:04,655 --> 00:41:07,375 that the chief has the answer to a lot of people, 752 00:41:07,645 --> 00:41:11,495 including many individuals in this room as well as the town 753 00:41:11,525 --> 00:41:13,135 that you guys serve as well. 754 00:41:13,595 --> 00:41:15,935 So it's quite an honor for us to be here. 755 00:41:16,855 --> 00:41:19,735 I came in a little early because we're actually holding a 756 00:41:19,735 --> 00:41:22,815 class up in Beau New Hampshire this week. 757 00:41:22,875 --> 00:41:24,135 So I got a chance to meet 758 00:41:24,155 --> 00:41:26,135 and talk with individuals who were in that class. 759 00:41:26,955 --> 00:41:30,255 We do about 700 classes a year 760 00:41:31,685 --> 00:41:35,485 and this year only three departments in the state 761 00:41:35,485 --> 00:41:39,365 of New Hampshire achieved the FBI lead a agency Trilogy 762 00:41:39,375 --> 00:41:42,125 Award thus far since we've started 763 00:41:42,715 --> 00:41:45,045 issuing the agency Trilogy Award 764 00:41:45,065 --> 00:41:46,605 for police departments across the country. 765 00:41:47,325 --> 00:41:50,885 There've only been six now in the state of New Hampshire 766 00:41:51,825 --> 00:41:54,125 and your department is one of them of course. 767 00:41:54,745 --> 00:41:58,845 And there've only been 303 across the country. 768 00:41:59,545 --> 00:42:03,205 And keep in mind there are about 18,000 police departments 769 00:42:03,305 --> 00:42:04,765 in the United States of America 770 00:42:05,305 --> 00:42:07,725 and your department is one of those 771 00:42:07,905 --> 00:42:10,845 who achieved the FBI lead a Trilogy Award. 772 00:42:11,425 --> 00:42:14,445 So on behalf of our executive director, Jacque Patis, 773 00:42:15,065 --> 00:42:17,725 as well as our president of our organization, 774 00:42:18,465 --> 00:42:22,525 Mr. Christopher Workman, it is quite the honor 775 00:42:23,185 --> 00:42:28,165 to present tonight the FBI Lita Agency Trilogy Award 776 00:42:28,705 --> 00:42:33,045 to Chief Oli as well as your amazing command staff. 777 00:42:33,305 --> 00:42:35,205 So congratulations chief very much. Awesome. 778 00:42:35,205 --> 00:42:36,205 You're quite welcome. 779 00:42:41,875 --> 00:42:43,125 Hopefully We can get some, 780 00:42:43,315 --> 00:42:44,805 Some pictures here with the, 781 00:42:45,475 --> 00:42:47,165 with the team here if that's okay. 782 00:42:48,485 --> 00:42:52,445 Absolutely. Alright. We had 783 00:42:54,225 --> 00:42:58,965 warned him that we'd be taking pictures anyways. That's 784 00:42:58,965 --> 00:43:00,005 A pretty Neat slide. 785 00:43:38,495 --> 00:43:41,115 If it's okay, I know I blessed it with the chief, 786 00:43:41,255 --> 00:43:44,195 but we do have things that we provide individuals 787 00:43:44,195 --> 00:43:46,235 for supporting these departments across the country. 788 00:43:46,625 --> 00:43:48,515 They're called challenge coins for those 789 00:43:48,775 --> 00:43:51,595 who may have served in the United States military, as I did 790 00:43:51,595 --> 00:43:54,755 as well, we'd like to make sure that some 791 00:43:54,755 --> 00:43:57,995 of your key personnel get some of these tonight. 792 00:43:58,095 --> 00:44:00,355 So I'd like to provide one from the town administrator. 793 00:44:00,355 --> 00:44:03,915 Thank you. As well as all of your council members as well. 794 00:44:04,575 --> 00:44:07,195 And thank you guys for supporting such an 795 00:44:07,195 --> 00:44:08,355 amazing department here. 796 00:44:08,895 --> 00:44:10,955 And I understand since Miss 797 00:44:11,205 --> 00:44:13,315 isn't here, I'll just need the, yeah. Alright. Done. 798 00:44:14,105 --> 00:44:16,955 I'll make certain that you get it. Thank you. Quite 799 00:44:16,955 --> 00:44:17,955 Welcome sir. 800 00:44:18,005 --> 00:44:19,555 Thank you sir. Thank you. 801 00:44:20,385 --> 00:44:23,355 Well it's an appropriate shape for you Doug. Thank you. 802 00:44:23,955 --> 00:44:27,315 Absolutely. Oh yeah. Mr. 803 00:44:27,595 --> 00:44:30,275 Chairman, if you'll allow me 30 more seconds. Absolutely. 804 00:44:31,125 --> 00:44:32,605 I just, I think, think it's important 805 00:44:32,785 --> 00:44:34,845 to recognize each officer individually. 806 00:44:36,325 --> 00:44:37,725 I want to recognize 807 00:44:37,725 --> 00:44:39,565 and you can stand, the officers can stand up. 808 00:44:39,565 --> 00:44:42,765 Some of 'em already are. Lieutenant Pat Dawson, 809 00:44:42,765 --> 00:44:45,685 patrol division Lieutenant 14 year service to the top. 810 00:44:46,855 --> 00:44:47,725 Thank you Lieutenant. 811 00:44:52,055 --> 00:44:57,005 Lieutenant Jared Knox, patrol division Lieutenant 16 years 812 00:44:57,005 --> 00:44:58,565 of service, total law enforcement. 813 00:44:58,965 --> 00:45:00,325 14 to the town of dairy. Thank you. 814 00:45:03,775 --> 00:45:07,325 Lieutenant Chris Talbot, 22 years of service. 815 00:45:07,515 --> 00:45:10,765 Presently our investigative services bureau commander. 816 00:45:10,895 --> 00:45:11,685 Thank you Lieutenant. 817 00:45:15,415 --> 00:45:19,125 Lieutenant Ryan O'Rourke, 19 years of service patrol 818 00:45:20,145 --> 00:45:22,085 bureau Lieutenant, thank you for your service. 819 00:45:27,555 --> 00:45:30,365 Sean O'Donohue, our administrative services bureau 820 00:45:30,365 --> 00:45:32,845 commander, Lieutenant O'Donohue 18. 821 00:45:32,985 --> 00:45:34,685 I'm nearly 19 years of service. Thank you. 822 00:45:34,685 --> 00:45:39,365 Lieutenant Captain 823 00:45:39,395 --> 00:45:43,085 Dave Micha, our support services division 824 00:45:43,085 --> 00:45:44,645 commander, 19 years of service. 825 00:45:44,735 --> 00:45:48,885 Thank you Captain. And Captain John Breen, 826 00:45:49,665 --> 00:45:52,805 our operations division commander, 29 years service. 827 00:45:53,415 --> 00:45:56,045 Thank you. Thank you very much. 828 00:45:56,345 --> 00:45:59,485 If we could do one more picture, maybe with the six 829 00:45:59,485 --> 00:46:00,605 of us and everybody else 830 00:46:01,395 --> 00:46:02,395 Certainly. 831 00:46:02,585 --> 00:46:04,325 And yes. 832 00:46:04,775 --> 00:46:07,525 Great. You want 833 00:46:22,345 --> 00:46:23,925 you guys behind us with us? 834 00:46:24,305 --> 00:46:24,525 Yes. 835 00:47:00,525 --> 00:47:00,895 Make a 836 00:47:32,895 --> 00:47:34,645 thank you for having Congratulations. 837 00:47:37,625 --> 00:47:38,605 Congratulations. 838 00:47:48,385 --> 00:47:52,565 Congratulations. I stepped behind Jack, Mr. Chair. 839 00:47:52,645 --> 00:47:54,565 I just got to say I'm a little disappointed that 840 00:47:54,565 --> 00:47:57,405 with all these great opportunities veteran photographers 841 00:47:57,715 --> 00:48:00,085 took the chance to say, say police, 842 00:48:01,555 --> 00:48:02,555 Come on. 843 00:48:02,675 --> 00:48:06,485 Yeah, yeah. 844 00:48:06,655 --> 00:48:07,805 Thank you Chief fii 845 00:48:07,865 --> 00:48:10,645 and all the work that your staff has done. 846 00:48:17,255 --> 00:48:20,785 Yeah. Alright, we'll continue. Alright, 847 00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:22,145 So I have a couple of other items 848 00:48:22,285 --> 00:48:23,625 of interest for the community. 849 00:48:25,165 --> 00:48:27,625 On September 1st, town council 850 00:48:27,805 --> 00:48:30,985 or members had attended a ribbon cutting at 851 00:48:30,985 --> 00:48:32,385 the town's landfill. 852 00:48:32,605 --> 00:48:35,465 And that was to commemorate a, the opening 853 00:48:35,525 --> 00:48:37,025 of our solar panel field 854 00:48:37,385 --> 00:48:40,905 that has a 25 year power purchase agreement lease 855 00:48:41,055 --> 00:48:42,745 with Encore Renewable Energy. 856 00:48:43,305 --> 00:48:45,025 Some of the stats that are important 857 00:48:45,025 --> 00:48:47,825 to talk about is the town is purchasing electricity at 858 00:48:48,205 --> 00:48:50,945 6.50 cents per kilowatt hour as compared 859 00:48:50,965 --> 00:48:52,585 to the Eversource default rate 860 00:48:52,885 --> 00:48:56,545 of 14 cents just over 14 cents per kilowatt hour 861 00:48:56,605 --> 00:48:57,665 as of August 1st. 862 00:48:58,385 --> 00:49:01,905 The net zero task force was instrumental in working 863 00:49:02,025 --> 00:49:03,105 through the proposals 864 00:49:03,125 --> 00:49:06,425 and we finally have tangible electricity production 865 00:49:06,965 --> 00:49:08,185 for order of magnitude. 866 00:49:08,185 --> 00:49:11,985 The solar array will generate approximately 4.2 million 867 00:49:12,145 --> 00:49:15,065 kilowatt hours of electricity annually, some 868 00:49:15,065 --> 00:49:17,345 of which will be consumed at the wastewater treatment plant. 869 00:49:17,565 --> 00:49:22,305 And then the other product will be distributed into the grid 870 00:49:22,305 --> 00:49:25,105 and the town would be receiving net metering credits. 871 00:49:25,125 --> 00:49:29,985 So we are projecting over the 25 year period at a minimum 872 00:49:30,165 --> 00:49:33,865 of $4 million of averted cost, whether when you compare to 873 00:49:33,865 --> 00:49:36,905 what the default rate is for electricity. 874 00:49:36,905 --> 00:49:40,945 So I'll continue to update the council one at some point 875 00:49:41,085 --> 00:49:42,305 as we go into the winter. 876 00:49:42,725 --> 00:49:46,025 We are gonna talk a little bit about fuel costs and, 877 00:49:46,025 --> 00:49:49,865 and what those may or may not be for impacts to the budget. 878 00:49:49,965 --> 00:49:51,545 We were expecting diesel and heating 879 00:49:51,545 --> 00:49:52,585 oil and things of that nature. 880 00:49:53,285 --> 00:49:54,465 We made some projections. 881 00:49:54,485 --> 00:49:55,945 So we'll talk about that a little bit. 882 00:49:55,945 --> 00:49:59,505 But I did want to note that our solar project is online 883 00:49:59,565 --> 00:50:01,505 and currently generating electricity. 884 00:50:03,245 --> 00:50:06,985 On a related note, the town also recently signed a 885 00:50:06,985 --> 00:50:10,065 consultant agreement with Freedom Logistics to initiate the 886 00:50:10,665 --> 00:50:13,745 electricity aggregation, also known 887 00:50:13,765 --> 00:50:14,985 as Community Power Effort. 888 00:50:15,215 --> 00:50:19,345 This endeavor's gonna kick off with pricing in early 2027, 889 00:50:19,345 --> 00:50:21,865 which will be offered to all residential parties in the 890 00:50:21,865 --> 00:50:24,225 Eversource, Unitil, and Liberty franchise area. 891 00:50:24,605 --> 00:50:26,025 The goal of this program would be 892 00:50:26,025 --> 00:50:28,765 to offer electricity supply at a lower rate 893 00:50:28,765 --> 00:50:29,885 than the default utility. 894 00:50:29,985 --> 00:50:32,245 So this is for everybody in the community. 895 00:50:32,385 --> 00:50:36,965 So we talked about a few years ago putting community power 896 00:50:37,075 --> 00:50:40,645 into place where perhaps if there's a higher rate from ever 897 00:50:40,645 --> 00:50:44,645 source at 14 cents, our buying power combined would allow us 898 00:50:44,645 --> 00:50:47,485 to potentially be somewhat less expensive than that. 899 00:50:47,785 --> 00:50:49,045 So we're gonna be pricing that 900 00:50:49,065 --> 00:50:51,325 and that would be something we'll roll out some information 901 00:50:51,505 --> 00:50:54,245 in, in hopes that we can save, you know, again, all 902 00:50:54,245 --> 00:50:57,205 of our residents, some money on their electricity bills. 903 00:50:58,065 --> 00:51:02,085 And then lastly, just as a query for the council 904 00:51:03,635 --> 00:51:06,165 setting up meetings, you have the 22nd, 905 00:51:06,165 --> 00:51:08,845 you're gonna be meeting with the school board 906 00:51:08,945 --> 00:51:10,525 for a workshop at five 30. 907 00:51:11,465 --> 00:51:14,485 You have regular town council meetings on October 6th 908 00:51:14,505 --> 00:51:15,565 and October 20th. 909 00:51:15,905 --> 00:51:19,245 And then November 3rd is the general election day 910 00:51:19,355 --> 00:51:23,445 that would align with your regular meeting scheduled dates. 911 00:51:23,545 --> 00:51:26,565 So just let me know if you, if you have some thoughts, 912 00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:28,685 I'm assuming that you want to postpone 913 00:51:28,685 --> 00:51:30,165 and not hold a meeting that day, 914 00:51:30,985 --> 00:51:34,125 but if you wanna just meet November 17th as the only meeting 915 00:51:34,125 --> 00:51:37,445 of the month, that could be accommodated on the normal 916 00:51:37,535 --> 00:51:38,805 third Tuesday of the month. 917 00:51:38,825 --> 00:51:41,245 But we can talk about that at the next meeting 918 00:51:41,265 --> 00:51:44,045 and make sure we let the viewers know if 919 00:51:44,045 --> 00:51:45,125 we are having a meeting or not. 920 00:51:45,125 --> 00:51:47,045 On November 3rd, they're not having 921 00:51:47,125 --> 00:51:48,165 a meeting, they can't I know. 922 00:51:48,485 --> 00:51:50,685 Understood. And I just wanna put that out there for, 923 00:51:51,025 --> 00:51:52,125 for full transparency. 924 00:51:52,505 --> 00:51:55,885 And that's all I have. Do we have any questions 925 00:51:55,885 --> 00:51:57,765 for the town administrator? 926 00:52:00,755 --> 00:52:01,755 Councilor Spencer? 927 00:52:03,885 --> 00:52:05,405 I don't have a question, but I would just, 928 00:52:05,945 --> 00:52:10,565 on the community power item, I would just like 929 00:52:10,565 --> 00:52:12,045 to give a shout, kind of a shout out 930 00:52:12,045 --> 00:52:14,445 and thank you to the net zero commission. 931 00:52:14,445 --> 00:52:16,125 They've been really working on this and, 932 00:52:16,125 --> 00:52:18,045 and working with the town administrator and, 933 00:52:18,265 --> 00:52:21,445 and others to see this come through and, 934 00:52:21,505 --> 00:52:23,285 and have been really behind this effort. 935 00:52:23,305 --> 00:52:25,125 So I just wanna give them a congratulations 936 00:52:25,185 --> 00:52:27,005 to hopefully helping their neighbors save some money. 937 00:52:28,405 --> 00:52:30,085 Do we have any plan on how we're going 938 00:52:30,085 --> 00:52:31,285 to notify all the residents? 939 00:52:31,665 --> 00:52:33,925 Yes, absolutely. So there will be a, 940 00:52:34,565 --> 00:52:38,165 a public meeting at some point, probably either in December 941 00:52:38,165 --> 00:52:41,125 or January of 2027 to outline the plan 942 00:52:41,505 --> 00:52:44,205 and then mailers go out to each one of the individual 943 00:52:44,725 --> 00:52:47,245 11,000 properties that would be eligible for this. 944 00:52:47,525 --> 00:52:48,965 Although it may be a little less 'cause we're not gonna be 945 00:52:48,965 --> 00:52:50,605 going into the New Hampshire co-op area, 946 00:52:50,625 --> 00:52:52,845 but each homeowner is given 947 00:52:53,745 --> 00:52:55,525 an opportunity to review the plans. 948 00:52:55,625 --> 00:52:57,365 You do have options if you want something 949 00:52:57,365 --> 00:52:58,445 that's a little bit more green 950 00:52:58,445 --> 00:52:59,965 or you pay generally more for that, 951 00:53:00,585 --> 00:53:02,565 but we'll be distributing and discussing it. 952 00:53:02,865 --> 00:53:06,125 The idea would be to have the pricing available 953 00:53:06,425 --> 00:53:09,565 for some time in April around that timeframe, 2027, 954 00:53:09,865 --> 00:53:13,205 and people would be automatically opting into the program. 955 00:53:13,465 --> 00:53:15,645 It would be an opt-out option if you 956 00:53:15,645 --> 00:53:16,685 don't want to be part of it. 957 00:53:16,715 --> 00:53:18,285 This is, you know, community-wide. 958 00:53:18,385 --> 00:53:20,725 So this is being done in many other communities 959 00:53:20,725 --> 00:53:23,045 around the state and we just didn't launch it 960 00:53:23,045 --> 00:53:27,525 because the timing in 2023 and 2024 was not advantageous. 961 00:53:27,545 --> 00:53:29,845 So we're at that stage now where we think it is. 962 00:53:36,705 --> 00:53:38,645 So, you know, other comments, we might as well move on 963 00:53:39,825 --> 00:53:41,125 to the public hearings. 964 00:53:43,665 --> 00:53:47,485 We have ordinance 2026 dash 0 0 3 965 00:53:47,905 --> 00:53:49,285 to amend chapter one 19 966 00:53:49,305 --> 00:53:52,285 of the General Code Hawkers Pedalers Itinerant vendors 967 00:53:53,285 --> 00:53:55,765 Police Chief FII will be presenting. 968 00:54:05,025 --> 00:54:06,455 Thank you. Thank you counselors. 969 00:54:07,615 --> 00:54:09,295 I appeared this evening to talk a little bit about 970 00:54:09,925 --> 00:54:13,655 Chapter one 19 in our Town Code Hawkes 971 00:54:13,655 --> 00:54:16,095 and peddlers in Itinerant Bend Town Ordinance. 972 00:54:16,415 --> 00:54:20,095 I noticed short while ago that 973 00:54:21,155 --> 00:54:22,575 the ordinance needed some revision 974 00:54:22,575 --> 00:54:24,255 because there are some state statutes 975 00:54:24,255 --> 00:54:25,695 that have since been repealed 976 00:54:25,915 --> 00:54:28,695 and are referenced in our ordinance. 977 00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:32,015 So I'll just go quickly through that. 978 00:54:32,245 --> 00:54:35,815 It's, it's really housekeeping measures more than changes 979 00:54:35,915 --> 00:54:40,615 to the ordinance with the exception of price increase 980 00:54:40,715 --> 00:54:42,535 for the permit fee itself. 981 00:54:43,395 --> 00:54:45,015 The ordinance chap refers 982 00:54:45,015 --> 00:54:47,935 to chapter RSA chapter three 20 and 3 21. 983 00:54:47,965 --> 00:54:50,855 Both of those were repealed in 2023. 984 00:54:51,385 --> 00:54:54,575 Those citations can are no longer valid within the document 985 00:54:54,635 --> 00:54:55,815 and need to be removed. 986 00:54:56,435 --> 00:54:59,695 And we wanted to correct what I perceived as a 987 00:55:00,465 --> 00:55:02,415 deficiency in the permit fee. 988 00:55:03,195 --> 00:55:06,495 We were last, it was last set at $50 per year. 989 00:55:07,155 --> 00:55:09,215 And I did some investigation 990 00:55:09,235 --> 00:55:14,175 and found that we should be in the $150 a year range 991 00:55:14,675 --> 00:55:17,215 for, to align with our other communities around us. 992 00:55:17,835 --> 00:55:19,735 And that would of course increase, 993 00:55:19,935 --> 00:55:23,175 generate increased revenue, specifically Section 1 19 3. 994 00:55:23,715 --> 00:55:25,135 We remove the, 995 00:55:25,235 --> 00:55:28,735 the New Hampshire RSA Chapter 3 21 license requirement. 996 00:55:28,955 --> 00:55:30,135 We renumber the sections 997 00:55:30,135 --> 00:55:32,175 accordingly to maintain consistent ordinance structure 998 00:55:32,755 --> 00:55:34,655 in section one 19 dash five. 999 00:55:34,795 --> 00:55:38,535 We remove the phrase pursuant to 3 21 3 in reference 1000 00:55:38,675 --> 00:55:41,735 to hawkers and peddlers as defined in 3 21 1001 00:55:42,195 --> 00:55:44,655 as those RSAs were repealed Also, 1002 00:55:45,415 --> 00:55:47,295 section one 19 and one 10. 1003 00:55:47,625 --> 00:55:49,295 These are housekeeping measures as 1004 00:55:49,815 --> 00:55:52,895 I I indicated we would add as amended. 1005 00:55:53,215 --> 00:55:56,055 September 15th, 2026 if you elect 1006 00:55:56,055 --> 00:55:57,255 to make that change this evening. 1007 00:55:58,795 --> 00:56:02,135 In, in section 1 19 10 at effective date language. 1008 00:56:02,365 --> 00:56:05,375 This article takes effect January 14th, 2021 1009 00:56:05,515 --> 00:56:09,935 and as amended September 15th, 2026, excuse me, 1010 00:56:11,775 --> 00:56:13,935 the current Hawkins and Pist fee license. 1011 00:56:14,115 --> 00:56:18,375 Permit fee is $50, as you can see, 1012 00:56:19,555 --> 00:56:22,255 excuse me, Manchester's $150 a year. 1013 00:56:22,325 --> 00:56:24,325 Nash was a hundred. Portsmouth is two 50. 1014 00:56:24,635 --> 00:56:26,765 Keen is 150 Rochester's a hundred. 1015 00:56:27,925 --> 00:56:29,485 I thought that we should be at 150. 1016 00:56:29,945 --> 00:56:32,925 Now at current this year, we, 1017 00:56:33,015 --> 00:56:35,765 we've issued 24 licenses since April. 1018 00:56:36,035 --> 00:56:39,085 That would generate, we did generate $1,200 1019 00:56:39,755 --> 00:56:43,005 with $150 fee, we would've generated 3,600. 1020 00:56:43,025 --> 00:56:44,045 So we'll triple that revenue. 1021 00:56:46,965 --> 00:56:48,805 There's no negative fiscal impact to the budget. 1022 00:56:48,985 --> 00:56:50,765 The fee increased from 50 to 150, 1023 00:56:50,815 --> 00:56:52,765 we'll generate increased revenues to the town. 1024 00:56:52,785 --> 00:56:55,565 So that's a positive. The council is asked 1025 00:56:55,565 --> 00:56:57,325 to consider those amendments to the 1026 00:56:57,875 --> 00:56:59,605 chapter one 19 this evening. 1027 00:57:00,265 --> 00:57:01,645 I'm here to I, I'll be happy 1028 00:57:01,665 --> 00:57:04,045 to answer any questions that anyone might have. 1029 00:57:04,335 --> 00:57:07,445 Moved up public hearing. Second. 1030 00:57:08,385 --> 00:57:11,325 Motion to open the public hearing made by Councilor Foot. 1031 00:57:11,325 --> 00:57:14,085 Seconded by Councilor Healey. Councilor Chase? Yes. 1032 00:57:14,085 --> 00:57:17,645 Councilor Flood. Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Councilor Mills? 1033 00:57:17,745 --> 00:57:20,725 Yes. Councilor Healy. Yes. Consul LER Spencer? 1034 00:57:21,665 --> 00:57:24,525 Yes. Chair votes? Yes. Let's open the public hearing. 1035 00:57:34,605 --> 00:57:36,555 David Preventer 26 Milmore Road. 1036 00:57:37,735 --> 00:57:39,835 You mentioned that you suspect that the 1037 00:57:40,495 --> 00:57:41,835 income would be tripled. 1038 00:57:42,495 --> 00:57:44,635 So you think that there'd be a hundred percent conversion 1039 00:57:44,635 --> 00:57:47,795 rate from people paying the $50 a year to the $150 1040 00:57:47,795 --> 00:57:49,315 That yeah, that, that, that is assumption based 1041 00:57:49,315 --> 00:57:50,355 on a hundred percent conversion. 1042 00:57:50,465 --> 00:57:51,835 Okay, so you don't think that any 1043 00:57:51,835 --> 00:57:53,555 that number would be too high for anybody 1044 00:57:53,575 --> 00:57:55,515 to just say Nah, no. It's not worth it? 1045 00:57:56,415 --> 00:57:59,635 No. I, I talk, I spoke with other law enforcement agencies 1046 00:57:59,635 --> 00:58:01,475 that try charge a much higher rate than we do 1047 00:58:01,475 --> 00:58:04,795 and they saw no significant drop in the application. 1048 00:58:05,105 --> 00:58:07,275 Okay. Just wanted to make sure that was considered. Okay. 1049 00:58:07,605 --> 00:58:11,475 Thank you. Anybody else Rising 1050 00:58:12,215 --> 00:58:13,395 Mr. Chair? Seeing none 1051 00:58:13,395 --> 00:58:14,395 Rise online. 1052 00:58:14,395 --> 00:58:15,995 Move to close. Second. 1053 00:58:16,375 --> 00:58:18,995 Motion to close a public hearing by Councilor Foot. 1054 00:58:18,995 --> 00:58:21,555 Seconded by Councilor Mills. Councilor Chase? Yes. 1055 00:58:21,745 --> 00:58:24,275 Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? 1056 00:58:24,375 --> 00:58:27,715 Yes. Councilor Mills? Yes. Councilor Healy? 1057 00:58:27,935 --> 00:58:29,315 Yes. Councilor Spencer? 1058 00:58:30,295 --> 00:58:34,355 Yes. Chair votes? Yes. Public hearing is closed. 1059 00:58:34,815 --> 00:58:36,835 Do we have any questions for the police Chief 1060 00:58:39,335 --> 00:58:40,335 Mr. 1061 00:58:40,335 --> 00:58:40,995 Chair? Seeing no further questions. 1062 00:58:40,995 --> 00:58:42,555 Oh, I just want, sorry. 1063 00:58:44,105 --> 00:58:45,635 Councilor Spencer, do you have any? 1064 00:58:47,455 --> 00:58:49,035 No, And I just have one. 1065 00:58:51,155 --> 00:58:54,355 I had asked this to the town administrator 1066 00:58:54,705 --> 00:58:57,155 because I wasn't certain exactly what a Hawker pet 1067 00:58:57,155 --> 00:58:58,435 or an itinerant vendor is 1068 00:58:58,435 --> 00:59:00,035 because my first thought was, oh, 1069 00:59:00,035 --> 00:59:01,315 are we raising the fee on the people 1070 00:59:01,315 --> 00:59:02,915 that open the farmer's market? 1071 00:59:03,135 --> 00:59:04,355 He says, no, that's not the case. 1072 00:59:04,655 --> 00:59:09,075 No. So quite often we have people that go to door 1073 00:59:09,075 --> 00:59:11,675 to door selling door and window products 1074 00:59:12,095 --> 00:59:13,555 or siding, things like that. 1075 00:59:13,575 --> 00:59:15,635 And they, they, they canvas a neighborhood. 1076 00:59:15,965 --> 00:59:18,195 Those folks have to be licensed under this ordinance. 1077 00:59:19,135 --> 00:59:21,845 All right. So that if, so that allows a person, 1078 00:59:21,845 --> 00:59:23,285 if they have a stranger knocking on the door 1079 00:59:23,285 --> 00:59:24,845 and says, Hey, I'm selling new pro windows, 1080 00:59:25,235 --> 00:59:26,965 that they can contact the police then 1081 00:59:27,105 --> 00:59:29,365 and verify that that's a licensed vendor. 1082 00:59:30,085 --> 00:59:32,125 Absolutely. All right. Thank you 1083 00:59:33,945 --> 00:59:34,945 Mr. 1084 00:59:34,945 --> 00:59:36,565 Chair. Single no further questions. I move. 1085 00:59:36,705 --> 00:59:41,085 The ordinance number 2026 dash zero three 1086 00:59:41,475 --> 00:59:44,165 will amend Chapter one 19 of the general code 1087 00:59:44,705 --> 00:59:45,765 offers peddlers 1088 00:59:45,785 --> 00:59:49,325 and itinerant vendors, whereas Section 5.1 1089 00:59:49,325 --> 00:59:51,925 of the town charter designates the town council 1090 00:59:52,185 --> 00:59:55,165 As the governing and legislative body of the town. 1091 00:59:55,505 --> 01:00:00,445 And pursuant to Section 6.1, the council shall legislate 1092 01:00:00,465 --> 01:00:03,045 by ordinance and whereas there is a need 1093 01:00:03,045 --> 01:00:06,365 to amend chapter one 19, hawkers, peddlers 1094 01:00:06,365 --> 01:00:09,085 and itinerant vendors governing the issuance 1095 01:00:09,105 --> 01:00:10,605 of associated permits. 1096 01:00:10,905 --> 01:00:13,965 And whereas chart changes have been made to state law 1097 01:00:14,305 --> 01:00:17,245 and the town ordinance requires several amendments 1098 01:00:17,265 --> 01:00:20,565 to remove references to appealed state statues. 1099 01:00:20,865 --> 01:00:23,925 And now therefore, the town of Derry Ordains. 1100 01:00:24,195 --> 01:00:28,365 That chapter one 19 of the General Code Hawkers peddlers 1101 01:00:28,385 --> 01:00:32,125 and itinerant vendors be amended by removing references 1102 01:00:32,185 --> 01:00:37,125 to repealed state statues RSA 3 21 1103 01:00:37,225 --> 01:00:39,765 and RSA 3 21 3 1104 01:00:40,265 --> 01:00:44,325 and amending the license fee to $150 per year. 1105 01:00:44,835 --> 01:00:48,725 This ordinance shall take effect 30 days after its adoption. 1106 01:00:49,785 --> 01:00:53,085 Second motion made by Councilor Mill. 1107 01:00:53,125 --> 01:00:56,325 Seconded by Councilor Healy. Do we have any discussion? 1108 01:00:57,875 --> 01:01:02,135 Councilor Spencer? Nope. All right. Seeing no discussion. 1109 01:01:02,605 --> 01:01:06,895 Councilor Chase? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? 1110 01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:11,095 Yes. Councilor Mills? Yes. Councilor Healy. Yes. 1111 01:01:11,245 --> 01:01:16,055 Councilor Spencer? Yes. Chair votes? Yes. Motion passes. 1112 01:01:16,265 --> 01:01:20,935 Seven zero. Moving on to 26 78. 1113 01:01:23,735 --> 01:01:27,935 Resolution 2026 dash 0 5 0 to accept the 2026 1114 01:01:28,525 --> 01:01:30,615 Community Wildfire Protection Plan. 1115 01:01:31,245 --> 01:01:31,975 Beth Carver. 1116 01:01:36,705 --> 01:01:38,575 Thank you. And if you could introduce yourself, Mr. 1117 01:01:38,755 --> 01:01:42,855 Nwi, I'd appreciate it. Yes. Hello everyone. 1118 01:01:43,325 --> 01:01:45,575 John Neely. I work for the State of New Hampshire 1119 01:01:45,595 --> 01:01:49,375 as a community Wildfire mitigation Coordinator. Thank you. 1120 01:01:49,725 --> 01:01:51,295 Awesome. Thank you. 1121 01:01:51,435 --> 01:01:53,375 So we are here to introduce the plan 1122 01:01:55,075 --> 01:01:58,455 and its recommendations to reduce wildfire risk in dairy. 1123 01:02:00,915 --> 01:02:04,695 So we'll start with why create A-C-W-P-P in the first place? 1124 01:02:04,795 --> 01:02:09,775 So dairy actually faces a higher wildfire risk than 96% 1125 01:02:09,775 --> 01:02:11,575 of other communities in New Hampshire. 1126 01:02:12,375 --> 01:02:16,535 And wildfires in dairy are generally small, but human caused 1127 01:02:16,915 --> 01:02:20,085 and they're frequent and can become structural fires. 1128 01:02:21,025 --> 01:02:23,645 So the CWPP looks at all kinds of things, 1129 01:02:23,655 --> 01:02:26,045 looks at vegetation, weather, topography, 1130 01:02:26,045 --> 01:02:27,405 infrastructure access, 1131 01:02:27,665 --> 01:02:31,285 and a lot more in order to make recommendations so 1132 01:02:31,285 --> 01:02:34,525 that we can reduce the risk of a fire before it starts. 1133 01:02:36,985 --> 01:02:39,485 So what is A-C-W-P-P? 1134 01:02:39,755 --> 01:02:43,925 It's a collaborative effort between the state members 1135 01:02:43,985 --> 01:02:45,005 of local government 1136 01:02:46,145 --> 01:02:49,485 and to assess like what the risk is 1137 01:02:50,105 --> 01:02:53,045 and prioritize what actions we can take 1138 01:02:53,305 --> 01:02:56,005 and then to act on those. 1139 01:02:56,545 --> 01:02:58,445 And we have a list of actions 1140 01:03:00,145 --> 01:03:02,125 and it's going to benefit dairy 1141 01:03:02,805 --> 01:03:07,445 because it provides in-depth recommendations that you all 1142 01:03:08,065 --> 01:03:12,085 and other town officials can take on actionable steps 1143 01:03:12,425 --> 01:03:14,405 to lower our wildfire risk. 1144 01:03:14,625 --> 01:03:16,645 And importantly, secure federal funding. 1145 01:03:16,905 --> 01:03:21,325 So having A-C-W-P-P in place is a benefit when it comes 1146 01:03:21,345 --> 01:03:25,045 to applying for these community Wildfire defense grants, 1147 01:03:25,985 --> 01:03:28,845 but it also provides just simple actionable steps 1148 01:03:28,845 --> 01:03:31,205 that residents can take to make their homes 1149 01:03:31,345 --> 01:03:33,805 and neighborhoods more resilient to wildfire. 1150 01:03:36,625 --> 01:03:41,285 So after we did all that analysis, we came up 1151 01:03:41,285 --> 01:03:44,765 with four goals and 17 actions that are 1152 01:03:45,185 --> 01:03:46,765 inside the CWPP 1153 01:03:49,505 --> 01:03:52,805 and the those main four goals. 1154 01:03:53,945 --> 01:03:55,925 So we'll use the best available science 1155 01:03:55,985 --> 01:04:00,525 and information to identify present, to identify present 1156 01:04:00,665 --> 01:04:03,325 and future vulnerabilities to wildfire within dairy. 1157 01:04:04,495 --> 01:04:07,325 We'll provide residents and land managers information 1158 01:04:07,325 --> 01:04:09,445 and tools to reduce wildfire risk 1159 01:04:09,545 --> 01:04:12,125 and structural ignitability on their lands. 1160 01:04:12,965 --> 01:04:15,525 Address ways to improve wildfire response 1161 01:04:15,525 --> 01:04:17,565 with training equipment and technology 1162 01:04:18,385 --> 01:04:21,365 and identify ways to improve communication 1163 01:04:21,425 --> 01:04:24,525 and participation among town officials, residents, 1164 01:04:24,525 --> 01:04:28,445 and stakeholders regarding wildfire risk reduction in dairy. 1165 01:04:30,785 --> 01:04:33,005 So that's all for our presentation. 1166 01:04:33,105 --> 01:04:34,485 And now if you have any questions 1167 01:04:34,545 --> 01:04:35,965 for us, we'd be happy to answer. 1168 01:04:37,515 --> 01:04:40,925 I'll open up first to the public hearing. Moved second. 1169 01:04:42,055 --> 01:04:44,245 Moved by Councilor Foot, second by Councilor Mills. 1170 01:04:44,245 --> 01:04:48,485 Councilor Chase? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? 1171 01:04:48,625 --> 01:04:51,125 Yes. Councilor Mills? Yes. Councilor Healy? 1172 01:04:51,265 --> 01:04:52,405 Yes. Councilor Spencer? 1173 01:04:53,345 --> 01:04:55,925 Yes. Chair votes yes to open the public hearing. 1174 01:04:57,665 --> 01:04:58,805 Do we have anybody coming up? 1175 01:04:58,985 --> 01:05:03,845 Ah, actually John, if you could just step back for a second 1176 01:05:03,845 --> 01:05:05,885 to allow members of the public Thank you. 1177 01:05:09,175 --> 01:05:13,245 Thank you. Erica Leon, 84 Shanita Road I, 1178 01:05:13,685 --> 01:05:16,445 I learned about this community wildfire protection plan 1179 01:05:17,185 --> 01:05:20,205 And I did have some email discussions 1180 01:05:20,235 --> 01:05:21,805 with Chief Farrow about this 1181 01:05:21,805 --> 01:05:24,725 and the development of the plan On August 14th. 1182 01:05:24,925 --> 01:05:26,005 I had asked for more details, 1183 01:05:26,145 --> 01:05:28,605 but he said at that point that it was a draft form 1184 01:05:29,025 --> 01:05:31,565 and it was not available for dissemination. 1185 01:05:32,595 --> 01:05:36,765 Looking through the 111 page document, my parcels that 1186 01:05:36,825 --> 01:05:39,125 around my, my family are called out by name 1187 01:05:39,785 --> 01:05:42,245 and I am concerned that as landowners 1188 01:05:42,245 --> 01:05:45,725 who were flagged in this process, we were not part 1189 01:05:45,825 --> 01:05:48,765 of the process of discussing this, especially given 1190 01:05:48,765 --> 01:05:50,845 that I had reached out to the chief trying 1191 01:05:50,845 --> 01:05:52,565 to get information on this plan. 1192 01:05:53,545 --> 01:05:56,525 But secondarily, beyond the fact that we have land 1193 01:05:56,525 --> 01:05:58,405 that we are managing, we are conserving 1194 01:05:58,405 --> 01:06:00,525 and we're reducing the wildfire risk on. 1195 01:06:01,365 --> 01:06:02,765 I have other questions 1196 01:06:02,765 --> 01:06:04,565 and concerns that'll impact far more 1197 01:06:04,565 --> 01:06:05,645 people in the town of dairy. 1198 01:06:06,445 --> 01:06:08,525 I grew up in a high, high wildfire area 1199 01:06:08,905 --> 01:06:10,845 and my brother has now had to cut all 1200 01:06:10,845 --> 01:06:13,685 of the vegetation basically on his property. 1201 01:06:14,405 --> 01:06:17,165 Looking at the defensible zones that are listed in here, 1202 01:06:17,685 --> 01:06:18,685 I would like to know whether 1203 01:06:18,705 --> 01:06:21,645 or not this plan means that people of dairy will have 1204 01:06:21,645 --> 01:06:24,085 to cut down trees that are providing shade to their home 1205 01:06:24,235 --> 01:06:26,445 because of the potential wildfire risk. 1206 01:06:27,005 --> 01:06:28,685 Because this looks like the same plan 1207 01:06:28,685 --> 01:06:33,245 that's used in Southern California and Southern California 1208 01:06:33,425 --> 01:06:34,885 and Dairy New Hampshire have very, 1209 01:06:34,885 --> 01:06:35,965 very different fire risks. 1210 01:06:36,025 --> 01:06:37,085 So I'd like to know whether 1211 01:06:37,105 --> 01:06:40,565 or not people are going to be told to cut down their trees 1212 01:06:40,905 --> 01:06:42,165 so that they don't have shade. 1213 01:06:42,475 --> 01:06:45,005 What other changes they'll need to do if people will be able 1214 01:06:45,005 --> 01:06:47,565 to continue to build with wood cladding on their homes 1215 01:06:48,195 --> 01:06:49,445 with trees close by. 1216 01:06:49,865 --> 01:06:50,885 Or if we are going 1217 01:06:50,885 --> 01:06:54,685 to be pushing people into different structural choices in 1218 01:06:54,685 --> 01:06:56,525 order to face federal chase federal dollars. 1219 01:06:57,065 --> 01:06:58,805 Now I appreciate that we're trying to deal 1220 01:06:58,805 --> 01:07:01,045 with wildfire risks, but I'm just trying to make sure 1221 01:07:01,045 --> 01:07:03,285 that the glove actually fits in this 1222 01:07:03,345 --> 01:07:04,765 and that what we are doing is something 1223 01:07:04,765 --> 01:07:06,805 that addresses the needs of dairy as opposed 1224 01:07:06,825 --> 01:07:09,565 to flying in California style policies. 1225 01:07:09,985 --> 01:07:12,325 So I would like to know about the impact for people. 1226 01:07:12,505 --> 01:07:13,525 So thank you. Yeah. 1227 01:07:16,515 --> 01:07:17,925 Anybody else coming up to speak? 1228 01:07:24,995 --> 01:07:26,125 Good evening, Michael. 1229 01:07:26,285 --> 01:07:27,925 A on 84 CDO road 1230 01:07:28,995 --> 01:07:32,605 also is appear in the community wildlife protection plan. 1231 01:07:34,495 --> 01:07:38,325 First, kudos to the people that put this together 1232 01:07:38,465 --> 01:07:39,725 to put science up there. 1233 01:07:39,925 --> 01:07:41,205 I think that's actually very important 1234 01:07:41,975 --> 01:07:43,685 where the fire science is based. 1235 01:07:44,505 --> 01:07:46,605 For the record, I'm not a fire scientist. 1236 01:07:46,885 --> 01:07:47,965 I have read fire science 1237 01:07:48,025 --> 01:07:49,965 and I'm curious why so much 1238 01:07:49,965 --> 01:07:53,045 of the fire science is not based on the geography 1239 01:07:53,265 --> 01:07:56,885 of New England For convenience. 1240 01:07:57,085 --> 01:07:59,445 I have a couple numbers here that may be of interest 1241 01:07:59,445 --> 01:08:00,645 to the council as well 1242 01:08:00,865 --> 01:08:03,045 as interested members of the community. 1243 01:08:04,505 --> 01:08:06,685 New Hampshire. Yes, we're number one in poverty, 1244 01:08:06,695 --> 01:08:09,325 which is gonna come up relative to fire risk in a minute. 1245 01:08:10,135 --> 01:08:13,125 We're the second most forested state in the entire country. 1246 01:08:13,575 --> 01:08:14,845 We're second only to Maine. 1247 01:08:15,825 --> 01:08:18,725 If you look at the actual fire risk of wildfires 1248 01:08:18,725 --> 01:08:23,645 to the state, if I told you that only 150 acres less than 1249 01:08:23,645 --> 01:08:26,965 that burned last year statewide, would you be surprised 1250 01:08:27,635 --> 01:08:29,005 less than 150 acres? 1251 01:08:29,625 --> 01:08:32,405 We are one of the least fire prone states in the entire 1252 01:08:32,845 --> 01:08:36,485 country in the field of medicine. 1253 01:08:36,485 --> 01:08:38,205 There are little lies, big lies 1254 01:08:38,305 --> 01:08:40,965 and statistics on this report. 1255 01:08:41,865 --> 01:08:43,645 And I understand how federal grants work. 1256 01:08:43,715 --> 01:08:44,845 I've written many myself 1257 01:08:44,845 --> 01:08:47,645 and received many for different types of research. 1258 01:08:47,945 --> 01:08:51,005 90 dairy is 96% more likely 1259 01:08:51,065 --> 01:08:52,885 to burn than the rest of the state. 1260 01:08:53,635 --> 01:08:57,205 That is true, that is absolutely true. 1261 01:08:57,275 --> 01:08:59,285 However, if you look at the overall risk 1262 01:08:59,305 --> 01:09:01,765 for the entire state, it is super small 1263 01:09:02,265 --> 01:09:04,925 and a huge portion of a very small number is still a very 1264 01:09:04,925 --> 01:09:07,645 small number contained within here. 1265 01:09:07,865 --> 01:09:09,725 If you look the committee I, 1266 01:09:09,925 --> 01:09:13,525 I again give kudos 25 years of data in here. 1267 01:09:13,995 --> 01:09:16,765 Look how much wildfire has actually burned in dairy. 1268 01:09:17,265 --> 01:09:21,085 I'm just trying to build the understand what the need is for 1269 01:09:21,755 --> 01:09:25,405 such restrictions that are are being suggested in here. 1270 01:09:27,365 --> 01:09:29,405 I apologize, I was only able 1271 01:09:29,405 --> 01:09:31,565 to access this today despite trying to get this 1272 01:09:31,565 --> 01:09:33,965 before page 24. 1273 01:09:35,145 --> 01:09:39,525 If you look 25 years, a quarter of a century, quarter 1274 01:09:39,545 --> 01:09:42,885 of a century, less than a hundred acres burned in dairy, 1275 01:09:42,915 --> 01:09:44,605 less than a hundred acres in a quar 1276 01:09:44,605 --> 01:09:45,845 in a quarter of a century. 1277 01:09:46,395 --> 01:09:47,685 It's absolutely amazing. 1278 01:09:48,375 --> 01:09:52,485 While wildfires are a big number in dairy, 1279 01:09:52,905 --> 01:09:54,485 if you look at the size of the fires, 1280 01:09:54,625 --> 01:09:56,365 we don't stand out from the rest of the state. 1281 01:09:57,105 --> 01:09:58,445 Yes, we've had higher incidents. 1282 01:09:58,585 --> 01:10:01,645 We also are the fourth biggest population in the state. 1283 01:10:02,695 --> 01:10:04,045 These things go hand in hand. 1284 01:10:04,065 --> 01:10:05,525 If you look at the population, 1285 01:10:06,635 --> 01:10:09,205 this is not mentioned in there other than briefly in 1286 01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:12,045 demographics I mentioned we are number one 1287 01:10:12,065 --> 01:10:13,645 and lowest poverty in the whole country. 1288 01:10:13,745 --> 01:10:17,005 By far, by far poverty 1289 01:10:17,345 --> 01:10:19,445 and fire risk are directly correlated. 1290 01:10:19,815 --> 01:10:21,405 There are actually book chapters written 1291 01:10:21,405 --> 01:10:22,605 on this, which are pretty amazing. 1292 01:10:25,675 --> 01:10:28,965 Finally, it it on this leading end, if you look all 1293 01:10:28,965 --> 01:10:30,885 around us, all of the states in New England 1294 01:10:30,885 --> 01:10:34,565 that surround us are all top 10 lowest fire risk, 1295 01:10:35,175 --> 01:10:37,205 which offers some opportunities for us 1296 01:10:37,745 --> 01:10:39,125 at no cost to taxpayers. 1297 01:10:40,755 --> 01:10:41,885 Just going through this report, 1298 01:10:42,005 --> 01:10:44,045 I made several notes on here, several. 1299 01:10:45,285 --> 01:10:47,525 I would urge the council 1300 01:10:48,305 --> 01:10:51,925 and this com committee to take with strong caution. 1301 01:10:52,025 --> 01:10:53,205 The rationale for this, 1302 01:10:54,105 --> 01:10:56,725 the Palisades fire in Southern California. 1303 01:10:58,985 --> 01:11:01,525 My wife mentioned the biomes of California 1304 01:11:02,225 --> 01:11:04,885 and New Hampshire have nothing in common. 1305 01:11:04,915 --> 01:11:07,805 Whether you look at southern New California 1306 01:11:08,305 --> 01:11:09,805 or you look at Northern California, 1307 01:11:09,905 --> 01:11:12,285 the biomes have absolutely nothing in common. 1308 01:11:13,145 --> 01:11:15,485 Are there softwoods and hardwoods between them? Sure. 1309 01:11:15,485 --> 01:11:16,645 If you want to get down to that, 1310 01:11:16,945 --> 01:11:18,645 if you look at the understory structure, 1311 01:11:18,745 --> 01:11:23,325 the soil composition, the actual fuel that's there to burn, 1312 01:11:23,475 --> 01:11:24,565 they are very different. 1313 01:11:25,305 --> 01:11:27,885 And I might add California, Oregon 1314 01:11:27,985 --> 01:11:30,485 and Washington enacted a ban 1315 01:11:31,025 --> 01:11:33,725 on sustainable forestry in 1991. 1316 01:11:34,155 --> 01:11:36,245 They are now the most at risk states 1317 01:11:36,345 --> 01:11:39,805 of having large wildfires elsewhere. 1318 01:11:39,805 --> 01:11:41,805 Contained in this document are 1319 01:11:43,915 --> 01:11:47,005 perhaps true at very small local level. 1320 01:11:47,185 --> 01:11:50,565 If you look at the national level, by far the biggest risk 1321 01:11:50,565 --> 01:11:52,245 of wildfires on public land. 1322 01:11:52,785 --> 01:11:56,405 New Hampshire in this report says 65% home ownership. 1323 01:11:57,665 --> 01:12:00,525 If you discount the fact that 14% of the states owned 1324 01:12:00,825 --> 01:12:02,045 by the federal government, if you will, 1325 01:12:02,045 --> 01:12:05,285 with the white national forest, home ownership is a percent 1326 01:12:05,305 --> 01:12:07,725 of land and the state increases significantly. 1327 01:12:08,665 --> 01:12:12,565 The risk for wildfires is actually lowest on private land. 1328 01:12:12,625 --> 01:12:14,125 And I think that's important to mention. 1329 01:12:16,075 --> 01:12:18,565 There's a lot, there's a lot in here to digest 1330 01:12:18,705 --> 01:12:21,005 and I think a lot is being left on the table, 1331 01:12:24,525 --> 01:12:26,175 that the fire department's gonna come out 1332 01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:30,095 and identify invasive species trees. 1333 01:12:30,595 --> 01:12:31,975 Hey, that's to be commended. 1334 01:12:33,155 --> 01:12:35,135 I'm gonna call out the state representatives 1335 01:12:35,135 --> 01:12:36,815 because there was a bill put in last year 1336 01:12:36,955 --> 01:12:38,335 to restrict homeowners 1337 01:12:38,515 --> 01:12:41,775 or force homeowners to label Japanese, not weed 1338 01:12:42,275 --> 01:12:43,855 before they, they sold their home. 1339 01:12:44,815 --> 01:12:47,415 I asked state legislators across party lines, 1340 01:12:48,075 --> 01:12:50,015 almost no one could identify what it was. 1341 01:12:50,435 --> 01:12:52,775 Is this really gonna help us fight fires? 1342 01:12:52,825 --> 01:12:54,655 There are already private organizations. 1343 01:12:55,165 --> 01:12:58,695 There's an ash organization literally for ash trees 1344 01:12:58,695 --> 01:13:00,215 that have come and climbed ash trees on 1345 01:13:00,215 --> 01:13:01,455 our property to get the seeds from. 1346 01:13:02,445 --> 01:13:04,255 There's an American chestnut society 1347 01:13:04,255 --> 01:13:06,695 that is very active here in New Hampshire. 1348 01:13:06,795 --> 01:13:09,775 We actually have an American native chestnut on our property 1349 01:13:10,565 --> 01:13:12,815 that is guarded by many trail cameras. 1350 01:13:13,025 --> 01:13:15,135 We've had tree, other trees cut down on the property. 1351 01:13:15,135 --> 01:13:16,215 That's a jewel that we have. 1352 01:13:17,305 --> 01:13:18,895 These are all called out in the report. 1353 01:13:18,995 --> 01:13:22,775 Is this really gonna reduce a almost non-existent fire risk? 1354 01:13:24,545 --> 01:13:26,975 There are many other resources 1355 01:13:27,245 --> 01:13:28,655 that are already working on this 1356 01:13:28,655 --> 01:13:30,855 that it would cost the town council, 1357 01:13:31,115 --> 01:13:33,375 it would cost this committee absolutely nothing. 1358 01:13:33,825 --> 01:13:36,375 Eversource, where high power lines are 1359 01:13:36,375 --> 01:13:37,815 mentioned as a fire risk. 1360 01:13:38,465 --> 01:13:40,695 Eversource has been doing an amazing job 1361 01:13:41,355 --> 01:13:42,495 and for the Conservation 1362 01:13:42,495 --> 01:13:44,655 Commission, I've been working with them. 1363 01:13:44,895 --> 01:13:47,295 I can put you in contact with their vegetation managers. 1364 01:13:47,435 --> 01:13:49,055 All three of 'em, from the regional manager 1365 01:13:49,075 --> 01:13:50,135 to the two local ones. 1366 01:13:50,205 --> 01:13:53,855 They have done an amazing job, not only battling all kinds 1367 01:13:53,855 --> 01:13:56,175 of invasive species, preserving native species, 1368 01:13:56,205 --> 01:13:58,055 they have been harassed when accidents happen. 1369 01:13:58,965 --> 01:14:01,175 They're acutely aware of fire risk 1370 01:14:01,355 --> 01:14:03,695 and have done a lot, not only on our property, 1371 01:14:03,695 --> 01:14:05,935 to help mitigate fire risk, to allow me 1372 01:14:05,935 --> 01:14:07,095 to do work on our property 1373 01:14:07,355 --> 01:14:09,775 to restore native plants at the same time 1374 01:14:10,035 --> 01:14:12,085 as reducing fire risk. 1375 01:14:14,125 --> 01:14:17,765 I, I think this is a, i i I will be so bold as 1376 01:14:17,765 --> 01:14:20,885 to say if anyone in this town has done more for conservation 1377 01:14:21,545 --> 01:14:24,285 to reduce fire risk on their own land in the last six years 1378 01:14:24,305 --> 01:14:28,045 in the Leon family and our friends stand up 1379 01:14:28,045 --> 01:14:30,125 and say, I don't think anyone else has. 1380 01:14:30,955 --> 01:14:33,245 With that said on here, 1381 01:14:33,665 --> 01:14:35,445 an assessment was made of properties. 1382 01:14:35,555 --> 01:14:37,845 This was supposedly completed last year. 1383 01:14:39,725 --> 01:14:42,005 I haven't seen anyone on our trail cameras. 1384 01:14:43,505 --> 01:14:45,325 The entire property has trail cameras all over it. 1385 01:14:45,785 --> 01:14:47,685 The fire department or anyone from this 1386 01:14:47,925 --> 01:14:49,085 committee's been to our property. 1387 01:14:49,085 --> 01:14:51,125 You've called it out. I'd love to know. 1388 01:14:51,405 --> 01:14:53,285 I I would've welcomed it. I would've given you a tour. 1389 01:14:53,285 --> 01:14:55,045 Do you wanna walk? Do you wanna ride in the four by four? 1390 01:14:55,545 --> 01:14:56,725 Be happy to give you a tour. 1391 01:14:57,555 --> 01:15:00,085 There's information being reported as complete in there 1392 01:15:00,085 --> 01:15:03,045 that hasn't even been looked at, hasn't even been looked at, 1393 01:15:03,835 --> 01:15:06,365 that this is unfair to the residents of dairy. 1394 01:15:06,705 --> 01:15:07,965 Not just myself, but the people 1395 01:15:07,965 --> 01:15:09,565 that aren't even aware that they're on here. 1396 01:15:10,315 --> 01:15:12,005 That this is absolutely amazing. 1397 01:15:13,745 --> 01:15:16,165 If I can just briefly, I will be done in a minute. 1398 01:15:17,995 --> 01:15:19,205 Made notes throughout this. 1399 01:15:24,685 --> 01:15:25,885 I went over the one 50. 1400 01:15:28,325 --> 01:15:29,645 I think there's some fire reduction 1401 01:15:29,645 --> 01:15:31,405 with the paper that was printed here. 1402 01:15:34,085 --> 01:15:36,365 I would just draw the council's attention as well. 1403 01:15:36,365 --> 01:15:39,605 These fire maps, they look pretty, 1404 01:15:39,625 --> 01:15:40,845 but do these really mean anything? 1405 01:15:40,985 --> 01:15:45,485 Do, do we have such great risk that we need 1406 01:15:45,545 --> 01:15:46,685 so many different maps? 1407 01:15:48,205 --> 01:15:50,005 I think everyone wants the fire department trained 1408 01:15:50,105 --> 01:15:52,085 to be able to respond to wildfires. 1409 01:15:52,185 --> 01:15:55,045 New Hampshire is unique. This is called out national data. 1410 01:15:56,305 --> 01:15:57,965 We have a rather dense population, 1411 01:15:57,965 --> 01:16:01,605 even though we're considered semi-rural, earth suburban, 1412 01:16:01,605 --> 01:16:02,925 however you want to word it. 1413 01:16:03,385 --> 01:16:07,725 Access to land from public roads is almost unprecedented, 1414 01:16:08,875 --> 01:16:13,165 even in New England, Massachusetts has beat us in 1415 01:16:13,165 --> 01:16:14,925 that only by a little. 1416 01:16:14,945 --> 01:16:16,565 And they don't have anything to show as far as 1417 01:16:17,235 --> 01:16:18,405 less fire destroyed. 1418 01:16:19,715 --> 01:16:24,685 This Again, 1419 01:16:24,805 --> 01:16:26,885 I mentioned Eversource is a key stakeholder. 1420 01:16:27,125 --> 01:16:29,365 I would encourage you to please reach out to them. 1421 01:16:29,435 --> 01:16:31,765 They have done a lot. They have spent a lot of money. 1422 01:16:31,865 --> 01:16:33,885 It actually impacts all of our electrical bills, 1423 01:16:34,185 --> 01:16:36,965 but they have done a lot to reduce the fire risk 1424 01:16:38,635 --> 01:16:41,925 English range, which borders our property was listed as one 1425 01:16:41,925 --> 01:16:44,325 of the high risk areas where a fire had burned before. 1426 01:16:45,175 --> 01:16:46,765 Again, if anyone on the town council, 1427 01:16:46,865 --> 01:16:49,965 anyone from the community wants to please get ahold of us, 1428 01:16:50,035 --> 01:16:51,085 I'll give you a tour of the property 1429 01:16:51,085 --> 01:16:52,645 and show you we've found to reduce fire risk 1430 01:16:52,645 --> 01:16:54,845 and I hope other people will not follow in 1431 01:16:54,845 --> 01:16:55,925 California's footsteps. 1432 01:17:02,025 --> 01:17:03,965 The last are the recommendations here, 1433 01:17:03,965 --> 01:17:07,605 and if I can, lemme just find these on here. 1434 01:17:07,745 --> 01:17:11,245 So I mentioned this was page 84, 1435 01:17:11,265 --> 01:17:13,165 the first one, absolutely not complete. 1436 01:17:13,165 --> 01:17:14,405 You guys haven't been to the lands 1437 01:17:14,745 --> 01:17:16,525 unless you just pulled this from satellite data. 1438 01:17:17,635 --> 01:17:20,245 It's, it's absolutely not complete there. 1439 01:17:26,235 --> 01:17:27,885 Disease outbreaks. Okay, 1440 01:17:28,345 --> 01:17:31,405 and then there are recommendations here at the end. 1441 01:17:36,065 --> 01:17:37,325 Are you almost done Mr. 1442 01:17:37,705 --> 01:17:42,685 I'm almost done. Action plans. I'll leave it at this. 1443 01:17:42,865 --> 01:17:46,845 Please contact other stakeholders, especially landowners 1444 01:17:46,845 --> 01:17:48,485 who may not be aware that their names 1445 01:17:48,665 --> 01:17:50,605 appear on this document. 1446 01:17:52,205 --> 01:17:55,645 I would hope he hope that this council members 1447 01:17:55,645 --> 01:17:58,245 of this committee would also lobby your state government 1448 01:17:58,305 --> 01:18:02,485 to eliminate useless prohibitions that make land management 1449 01:18:02,485 --> 01:18:06,885 with fire prevention, fire mitigation, much more difficult. 1450 01:18:07,315 --> 01:18:09,685 That would include the production of burning 1451 01:18:10,105 --> 01:18:12,205 to produce something called biochar. 1452 01:18:12,345 --> 01:18:14,445 If you're an organic farmer, you've probably heard of it. 1453 01:18:14,465 --> 01:18:17,125 If not, it's made by burning large pieces 1454 01:18:17,185 --> 01:18:18,605 and controlling the way they burn 1455 01:18:18,945 --> 01:18:21,085 and eliminating the only one in the nation, 1456 01:18:21,085 --> 01:18:22,565 the useless five inch rule. 1457 01:18:24,385 --> 01:18:27,405 And please ensure that recommendations are based on reality, 1458 01:18:28,425 --> 01:18:29,725 not just grant availability. 1459 01:18:30,545 --> 01:18:32,285 If there's questions, I'm happy to take 'em. 1460 01:18:35,455 --> 01:18:36,455 Thank you. 1461 01:18:38,745 --> 01:18:41,805 Do we have any other people rising for the public hearing? 1462 01:18:57,195 --> 01:18:59,965 Good evening, Richard Trip 44 Winter Road. 1463 01:19:01,305 --> 01:19:02,685 The first thing I wanna say is, 1464 01:19:02,805 --> 01:19:04,925 I hope you're not voting on this tonight. 1465 01:19:06,185 --> 01:19:08,045 It appears to me that there's a lot of questions 1466 01:19:08,045 --> 01:19:09,885 that haven't been answered. 1467 01:19:10,745 --> 01:19:12,045 You know, I'd like to know. 1468 01:19:12,785 --> 01:19:16,325 You know, usually with a grant there comes some strings, 1469 01:19:16,905 --> 01:19:20,005 you know, so what exactly does the town of dairy have to do 1470 01:19:20,065 --> 01:19:22,485 to, you know, benefit from this grant? 1471 01:19:23,065 --> 01:19:28,005 You know, is it they're gonna be further inspections 1472 01:19:28,005 --> 01:19:30,605 of people's property, you know, telling them that they, 1473 01:19:30,875 --> 01:19:32,525 like Mr. 1474 01:19:32,595 --> 01:19:36,005 Land said that in order to qualify for this 1475 01:19:36,925 --> 01:19:38,325 wildfire protection plan, you have 1476 01:19:38,325 --> 01:19:39,565 to cut down trees or whatever. 1477 01:19:40,025 --> 01:19:44,805 You know, I, I too would like a copy of this plan, 1478 01:19:45,025 --> 01:19:46,525 you know, so that I can take a look at it. 1479 01:19:46,905 --> 01:19:48,245 But you know, 1480 01:19:48,445 --> 01:19:51,085 I would probably have a lot more questions if I had a copy 1481 01:19:51,085 --> 01:19:52,085 of the plan, but I don't. 1482 01:19:52,105 --> 01:19:55,805 So once again, I hope you are not intending 1483 01:19:55,805 --> 01:19:57,525 to take any action on this tonight. 1484 01:20:09,235 --> 01:20:11,925 Once again, I'm David Procher, 26 Milmore Road. 1485 01:20:12,185 --> 01:20:14,685 Hi Beth, how are you today? Great, how are you? 1486 01:20:14,945 --> 01:20:16,245 How long have you and the conservation 1487 01:20:16,245 --> 01:20:17,445 Commission been working on this plan? 1488 01:20:18,945 --> 01:20:20,365 For about a year. 1489 01:20:21,185 --> 01:20:26,045 The process started in March of 2025 1490 01:20:26,185 --> 01:20:29,045 and then really got ramped up about this time last year. 1491 01:20:29,045 --> 01:20:30,925 Okay. So you think in that year you've done your 1492 01:20:30,925 --> 01:20:31,965 due dig diligence? 1493 01:20:32,565 --> 01:20:36,885 I think that there is still a lot to do, 1494 01:20:37,105 --> 01:20:41,605 but the point of the plan is to get that process started 1495 01:20:42,465 --> 01:20:46,245 and some of the actions in the plan are, you know, 1496 01:20:46,315 --> 01:20:47,405 it's the work to be done. 1497 01:20:47,915 --> 01:20:50,125 Okay, thank you. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that you 1498 01:20:50,125 --> 01:20:51,125 Were Yes. 1499 01:20:51,125 --> 01:20:52,645 Due diligence. Indeed. Yes. 1500 01:20:52,915 --> 01:20:57,085 Yeah, the Mr. Leon just spent, oh God, what was it, 1501 01:20:57,085 --> 01:20:58,965 12 minutes talking about his various 1502 01:20:58,965 --> 01:21:00,045 grievances with this plan. 1503 01:21:00,625 --> 01:21:02,965 The Conservation Commission worked hard 1504 01:21:03,225 --> 01:21:04,725 and they do their job well. 1505 01:21:05,185 --> 01:21:09,965 So if Beth says it's good, I I agree with her. Thank you. 1506 01:21:17,475 --> 01:21:21,665 Hello, my name is Colton 19 Meadowbrook Road. 1507 01:21:22,105 --> 01:21:24,225 I actually, what's your full name, sir? Oh, Colton Rady. 1508 01:21:24,595 --> 01:21:26,225 Thank you. Could you spell your last name? 1509 01:21:26,465 --> 01:21:27,785 R-A-T-E-Y. Thank you. 1510 01:21:28,055 --> 01:21:29,825 This is my first time to a meeting like this. 1511 01:21:30,945 --> 01:21:33,905 I just moved here. I didn't know what to expect. 1512 01:21:34,065 --> 01:21:37,465 I came here specifically for this wildfire protection plan. 1513 01:21:37,465 --> 01:21:41,905 It sounded interesting. I also haven't seen the document. 1514 01:21:42,345 --> 01:21:44,265 I kind of came here expecting 1515 01:21:44,285 --> 01:21:47,225 to have a little more information on the specifics of it. 1516 01:21:49,365 --> 01:21:51,825 So I, I mean, I would also like to read the plan. 1517 01:21:52,305 --> 01:21:54,025 I will say though, just in general, 1518 01:21:54,485 --> 01:21:56,265 we all experienced a couple months ago 1519 01:21:56,445 --> 01:21:57,705 the wildfires in Canada. 1520 01:21:58,845 --> 01:22:00,585 The sky was hazy and orange 1521 01:22:01,005 --> 01:22:03,545 and hard to breathe for people with asthma. 1522 01:22:03,605 --> 01:22:07,385 It was very scary. I think we definitely should have a plan 1523 01:22:07,525 --> 01:22:10,825 and I want to thank everyone who worked hard on that plan. 1524 01:22:11,525 --> 01:22:12,545 It is much appreciated. 1525 01:22:13,595 --> 01:22:13,985 Thank you. 1526 01:22:18,855 --> 01:22:20,105 Anybody else coming up, 1527 01:22:21,605 --> 01:22:22,605 Mr. 1528 01:22:22,605 --> 01:22:23,665 Chair? We're seeing none rise online. 1529 01:22:25,085 --> 01:22:27,545 All right, thank you. What's close of public hearing? 1530 01:22:27,615 --> 01:22:32,345 Move to close. Second. Councilor Chase? Yes. 1531 01:22:32,815 --> 01:22:37,585 Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Councilor Mills? 1532 01:22:37,765 --> 01:22:41,425 Yes. Councilor Healy? Yes. Councilor Spencer? 1533 01:22:42,445 --> 01:22:45,145 Yes. Chair votes yes to close the public hearing. 1534 01:22:46,455 --> 01:22:48,025 Beth and John, do you have any other comments? 1535 01:22:52,985 --> 01:22:55,545 I do. I would like to address some of the comments, 1536 01:22:56,325 --> 01:22:57,505 the questions that were, 1537 01:22:57,735 --> 01:22:59,665 that were voiced in, the comments that were made. 1538 01:23:01,445 --> 01:23:03,465 So first of all, I just want to make sure 1539 01:23:03,465 --> 01:23:06,365 that the public is aware that nobody is going to be asked 1540 01:23:06,365 --> 01:23:10,045 to cut down trees and that that would be counterproductive. 1541 01:23:10,045 --> 01:23:14,605 Right. The so healthy, healthy green trees are helping 1542 01:23:14,785 --> 01:23:16,285 to prevent wildfire actually, 1543 01:23:16,285 --> 01:23:20,525 because the shade that they provide when, when trees die 1544 01:23:20,625 --> 01:23:23,765 and they're no longer providing that shade, then the duff 1545 01:23:23,765 --> 01:23:26,925 underneath can become dry and easy more flammable. 1546 01:23:27,205 --> 01:23:30,285 So certainly nobody is going to be asked to cut down trees 1547 01:23:31,065 --> 01:23:34,005 or be prevented from using wood cladding 1548 01:23:34,005 --> 01:23:36,365 or whatever they want to use on their homes. 1549 01:23:37,465 --> 01:23:40,685 And that, let's see 1550 01:23:44,955 --> 01:23:48,805 that while, yeah, so the number of acres burned 1551 01:23:49,505 --> 01:23:52,365 was mentioned and I, you know, in 25 years 1552 01:23:52,665 --> 01:23:56,245 and we just want to make it known that 1553 01:23:56,245 --> 01:23:57,805 that still takes resources, right. 1554 01:23:57,865 --> 01:23:59,445 So the idea is that 1555 01:24:00,625 --> 01:24:04,045 our fire department's resources are not being used putting 1556 01:24:04,105 --> 01:24:08,725 out these, you know, these wildfires or mulch fires 1557 01:24:08,865 --> 01:24:12,005 or things that are human cause that can be preventable. 1558 01:24:12,005 --> 01:24:14,205 And that's kind of one of the main goals of this plan. 1559 01:24:16,025 --> 01:24:19,445 And I also just wanna make sure that the public is aware 1560 01:24:19,445 --> 01:24:22,085 that we were not looking at data from California, 1561 01:24:22,945 --> 01:24:27,365 nor are we looking at, at the topography 1562 01:24:27,585 --> 01:24:28,605 of New Hampshire. 1563 01:24:28,915 --> 01:24:30,285 Like it's from California. 1564 01:24:30,465 --> 01:24:35,285 So John did very extensive analysis 1565 01:24:35,285 --> 01:24:38,965 of data that is from a data in New Hampshire 1566 01:24:40,185 --> 01:24:42,205 and very specific to our town. 1567 01:24:42,265 --> 01:24:45,605 And we broke the town into multiple zones so 1568 01:24:45,605 --> 01:24:48,565 that we could look specifically at those zones. 1569 01:24:50,025 --> 01:24:54,445 And then the properties of Mr. 1570 01:24:55,545 --> 01:24:59,525 Ms. Leon being called out by name, well I don't think 1571 01:24:59,525 --> 01:25:01,325 that they were personally called out by name, 1572 01:25:01,385 --> 01:25:03,965 but their properties may have been. 1573 01:25:05,105 --> 01:25:08,485 And that is again, part of the process of 1574 01:25:08,555 --> 01:25:11,845 what this community wildfire protection plan is, is 1575 01:25:11,845 --> 01:25:15,245 to identify, you know, those properties 1576 01:25:15,545 --> 01:25:19,565 and through, you know, the actions in this plan 1577 01:25:20,145 --> 01:25:24,165 to analyze them, the, the properties 1578 01:25:24,165 --> 01:25:27,165 that we analyzed were a few conservation properties 1579 01:25:27,235 --> 01:25:29,685 that we were able to within the time 1580 01:25:29,685 --> 01:25:32,525 that we were creating those as sort of a baseline of 1581 01:25:32,595 --> 01:25:35,885 what we are working towards with this. 1582 01:25:39,255 --> 01:25:40,255 Let's see. 1583 01:25:42,185 --> 01:25:45,925 So if I understand this plan is more of a strategic plan 1584 01:25:45,985 --> 01:25:48,685 to identify goals and how to move forward. 1585 01:25:49,105 --> 01:25:51,005 Yes, it is a working document. 1586 01:25:51,215 --> 01:25:54,805 Thank you for that clarification. Yeah, yeah. 1587 01:25:56,675 --> 01:25:59,125 It's not meant to just be a plan, 1588 01:25:59,215 --> 01:26:00,845 close the book and sit on a shelf. 1589 01:26:01,235 --> 01:26:05,925 It's meant to be a framework to provide the process 1590 01:26:06,395 --> 01:26:09,965 that is an ongoing process of preventing wildfire 1591 01:26:09,965 --> 01:26:12,285 because preventing wildfire isn't really something 1592 01:26:12,285 --> 01:26:15,245 that you can just close the book on and say we did it. 1593 01:26:15,755 --> 01:26:18,125 It's, it's an ongoing, it's an ongoing process 1594 01:26:20,385 --> 01:26:23,365 and I also just wanna make sure that the public knows that 1595 01:26:24,025 --> 01:26:26,685 nobody is going to be coming onto their property 1596 01:26:26,905 --> 01:26:31,365 to inspect it if they are not consenting to that. 1597 01:26:31,425 --> 01:26:33,325 And that if they would like to consent to that. 1598 01:26:33,935 --> 01:26:36,445 There is a program called Firewise Communities 1599 01:26:36,945 --> 01:26:38,565 and that is called out in the plan. 1600 01:26:39,025 --> 01:26:43,125 And one of the goals of the plan is to, is 1601 01:26:43,125 --> 01:26:46,325 to do neighborhood assessments within the framework 1602 01:26:46,325 --> 01:26:48,925 of this Firewise communities program 1603 01:26:49,785 --> 01:26:54,325 to help homeowners take an active role in reducing the 1604 01:26:54,605 --> 01:26:56,925 wildfire risk in their neighborhoods. 1605 01:26:58,125 --> 01:27:00,765 I think that was based on my notes. You were, 1606 01:27:01,265 --> 01:27:03,245 Hey John, if you could just introduce yourself a little 1607 01:27:03,245 --> 01:27:04,245 bit more and your background. 1608 01:27:05,795 --> 01:27:09,765 Yeah, so I retired from the 1609 01:27:10,345 --> 01:27:12,085 US Forest Service a couple years ago 1610 01:27:12,105 --> 01:27:15,285 and began working part-time with the state of New Hampshire 1611 01:27:16,145 --> 01:27:18,805 in the Forests and Lands division. 1612 01:27:19,425 --> 01:27:22,445 Mostly helping towns that have questions 1613 01:27:22,825 --> 01:27:24,485 or concerns about wildfire 1614 01:27:24,505 --> 01:27:28,565 and wildfire risk, helping them look strategically 1615 01:27:28,945 --> 01:27:31,845 and critically at what they have in their land base. 1616 01:27:34,605 --> 01:27:39,165 I believe last winter we held a kind 1617 01:27:39,165 --> 01:27:43,885 of a rollout of the CWPP, I think here where we talked about 1618 01:27:44,505 --> 01:27:46,605 the plan that we were developing for dairy. 1619 01:27:47,545 --> 01:27:51,285 And part of that was talking about some of the changes 1620 01:27:51,315 --> 01:27:54,445 that we're seeing our state and our region. 1621 01:27:54,935 --> 01:27:58,205 We're seeing things like rising temperatures 1622 01:27:58,915 --> 01:28:00,925 reduced snowpack in the winter 1623 01:28:02,195 --> 01:28:04,325 that helps dry our fuels out 1624 01:28:04,325 --> 01:28:08,085 and make them more available to burn in the spring 1625 01:28:08,105 --> 01:28:09,325 and our spring fire season. 1626 01:28:10,175 --> 01:28:13,245 We're also seeing a lot of new insects 1627 01:28:13,305 --> 01:28:17,525 and diseases, particularly defoliating insects 1628 01:28:17,595 --> 01:28:22,445 that remove leaves that create that cool shaded 1629 01:28:23,535 --> 01:28:26,245 understory that resists fire spread. 1630 01:28:26,905 --> 01:28:30,765 So we're seeing some of these new conditions in our state 1631 01:28:31,545 --> 01:28:36,045 and much like the hazard mitigation plans that began 1632 01:28:36,555 --> 01:28:39,565 when we started seeing the problematic flooding a long time 1633 01:28:39,625 --> 01:28:43,845 ago, you know, we think 1634 01:28:43,845 --> 01:28:48,445 that fires might become more of an issue on our state 1635 01:28:48,985 --> 01:28:50,325 as we move into the future. 1636 01:28:51,225 --> 01:28:54,645 And so it's great to work with proactive towns like dairy 1637 01:28:55,405 --> 01:28:58,405 that want to kind of look critically at what's going on 1638 01:28:59,105 --> 01:29:00,845 in your land base. 1639 01:29:01,905 --> 01:29:04,725 And as Beth mentioned, 1640 01:29:06,225 --> 01:29:10,685 the recommendations in the CWPP are recommendations. 1641 01:29:12,415 --> 01:29:15,045 We're not gonna be going on anybody's property 1642 01:29:15,045 --> 01:29:16,125 where we're not invited. 1643 01:29:16,175 --> 01:29:20,045 We're not gonna be telling anyone to cut their trees down. 1644 01:29:21,745 --> 01:29:26,485 We are going to tailor any fire projects 1645 01:29:27,825 --> 01:29:30,605 to things that we work with the landowner 1646 01:29:30,955 --> 01:29:33,405 that is interested in in working on it. 1647 01:29:33,985 --> 01:29:37,565 And there are things that apply 1648 01:29:38,065 --> 01:29:40,645 to New Hampshire that work well 1649 01:29:40,825 --> 01:29:42,845 and have been proven to work well. 1650 01:29:43,705 --> 01:29:46,405 And we also, in some of our 1651 01:29:48,535 --> 01:29:53,005 field trips we did notice you do have some 1652 01:29:53,075 --> 01:29:57,805 species, some stands of trees, particularly pitch pine, 1653 01:29:58,465 --> 01:30:03,165 red pine and some oak species that do carry fire 1654 01:30:03,995 --> 01:30:08,045 that are, are fire adapted and fire prone tree species. 1655 01:30:09,265 --> 01:30:11,485 So it's good to know where those areas are in your town. 1656 01:30:11,485 --> 01:30:15,005 It's good to know where those areas lie in relation to 1657 01:30:15,535 --> 01:30:20,205 human values and we made some suggestions of ways 1658 01:30:20,345 --> 01:30:23,765 to reduce the wildfire risk in some of those areas 1659 01:30:23,955 --> 01:30:25,885 that are more likely 1660 01:30:25,945 --> 01:30:29,205 to burn actively if if a fire did occur in them. 1661 01:30:35,385 --> 01:30:36,385 Any questions? 1662 01:30:37,845 --> 01:30:40,405 I have a couple of other items to add to this. 1663 01:30:41,005 --> 01:30:44,205 I, I agree wholeheartedly with John's comment about 1664 01:30:45,155 --> 01:30:47,605 when we had flooding in the Public Works department, 1665 01:30:47,725 --> 01:30:49,645 mother's Day flood among others, 1666 01:30:49,905 --> 01:30:54,365 and that forced us to look as a town across the board 1667 01:30:54,745 --> 01:30:58,685 to see how we could mitigate future flooding incidences. 1668 01:30:58,785 --> 01:31:02,565 So forced us to look at culvert capacities, forced us 1669 01:31:02,565 --> 01:31:06,965 to look at low lying areas, could we facilitate fortify? 1670 01:31:07,095 --> 01:31:09,165 These were all public pieces of infrastructure, 1671 01:31:09,185 --> 01:31:11,445 but it got us to think about some 1672 01:31:11,445 --> 01:31:12,765 of the areas in the future. 1673 01:31:12,905 --> 01:31:14,685 We couldn't all take care of the items 1674 01:31:14,715 --> 01:31:16,005 that were being suggested, 1675 01:31:16,025 --> 01:31:18,325 but it was a matter of having a list 1676 01:31:18,325 --> 01:31:20,245 of recommendations and, and working forward. 1677 01:31:20,245 --> 01:31:21,885 And I think that that's what this plan is. 1678 01:31:21,885 --> 01:31:24,205 It's your baseline to look forward at things 1679 01:31:24,235 --> 01:31:26,685 that are potentially going to be issues 1680 01:31:26,865 --> 01:31:28,925 and you want to take a look at that as 1681 01:31:29,485 --> 01:31:30,885 resources are are available. 1682 01:31:31,625 --> 01:31:33,325 Second item I wanted to talk about, 1683 01:31:33,355 --> 01:31:34,845 this is more procedural item. 1684 01:31:36,635 --> 01:31:40,325 This particular plan was posted two separate times. 1685 01:31:40,985 --> 01:31:42,525 So you had your consent reading 1686 01:31:42,785 --> 01:31:44,645 for the September 1st agenda, so 1687 01:31:45,225 --> 01:31:47,885 before the holiday weekend, I'm sorry, 1688 01:31:47,885 --> 01:31:50,045 before we went into the end of August. 1689 01:31:50,395 --> 01:31:51,765 That was posted as part 1690 01:31:51,765 --> 01:31:54,085 of your consent reading on September 1st. 1691 01:31:54,545 --> 01:31:57,125 You made that as a public hearing for tonight. 1692 01:31:57,425 --> 01:32:01,125 And then again for tonight's meeting under the town council 1693 01:32:01,305 --> 01:32:03,765 agenda, you can go in and click on that. 1694 01:32:03,945 --> 01:32:07,205 So the full, it's 111 page PDF plan 1695 01:32:08,145 --> 01:32:10,405 was made available on that line. 1696 01:32:10,425 --> 01:32:12,085 So I just want to put that out there just 1697 01:32:12,085 --> 01:32:14,245 to dispel any concerns in that area. 1698 01:32:21,155 --> 01:32:22,965 Councilor Mills? Yes, there's just a couple 1699 01:32:22,965 --> 01:32:27,165 of three things I wanted to indicate as far 1700 01:32:27,165 --> 01:32:29,325 as taxpayers are concerned, there was apps, 1701 01:32:29,325 --> 01:32:31,725 there's no fiscal impact to this 1702 01:32:33,105 --> 01:32:36,405 and there are no grants being applied for whatsoever 1703 01:32:39,105 --> 01:32:41,685 as far as I, I was happy to hear 1704 01:32:41,995 --> 01:32:45,805 that there's a relatively small amount of burned acreage 1705 01:32:45,905 --> 01:32:49,085 and, and brush fires and forest fires here in New Hampshire. 1706 01:32:49,265 --> 01:32:51,405 And I think that's mostly due to the due diligence 1707 01:32:51,405 --> 01:32:53,245 of our entire state 1708 01:32:53,465 --> 01:32:56,005 and local fire departments keeping it that low. 1709 01:32:56,005 --> 01:32:58,245 And that should be a matter of 1710 01:33:00,145 --> 01:33:03,525 congratulatory rather than a something punitive. 1711 01:33:03,865 --> 01:33:05,485 And I guess my third thing is this is, 1712 01:33:05,755 --> 01:33:08,645 this is not a punitive document at all. 1713 01:33:08,755 --> 01:33:10,005 This is prevention 1714 01:33:10,545 --> 01:33:14,645 and I will be making this resolution and voting forth. 1715 01:33:17,155 --> 01:33:18,805 Councilor Chase, I'd also like 1716 01:33:18,805 --> 01:33:20,365 to make one thing also clear. 1717 01:33:20,395 --> 01:33:23,165 This is, as Councilor Webb spoken, 1718 01:33:23,195 --> 01:33:26,165 this is a not a regulatory document. 1719 01:33:27,095 --> 01:33:29,565 There will be no ordinances being put forth 1720 01:33:29,565 --> 01:33:32,245 through the council that will force any landowner 1721 01:33:32,265 --> 01:33:34,565 to do anything that he does not want to with his property. 1722 01:33:37,465 --> 01:33:39,045 So just clarification for the at home. 1723 01:33:39,105 --> 01:33:41,165 So it's, it's a guideline essentially 1724 01:33:41,485 --> 01:33:43,765 and it can be changed, amended attitude, deleted, 1725 01:33:43,765 --> 01:33:46,485 subtracted from all that ongoing basis. 1726 01:33:46,625 --> 01:33:49,805 Yes. With, so just for clarification, 1727 01:33:51,645 --> 01:33:53,165 I just have a, a couple comments 1728 01:33:53,165 --> 01:33:54,445 because I was involved in this 1729 01:33:55,265 --> 01:33:59,965 and I want to thank Beth for also reigning in my own A DHD 1730 01:34:00,225 --> 01:34:02,805 and my own experience from 33 years 1731 01:34:02,805 --> 01:34:04,325 of looking at fires here in town 1732 01:34:05,305 --> 01:34:08,765 and having gone to structure fires 1733 01:34:08,845 --> 01:34:12,325 that created multi-arm brush fires and vice versa. 1734 01:34:14,225 --> 01:34:18,365 So I look at, I look at it from a different perspective 1735 01:34:18,675 --> 01:34:21,205 because I don't look at it from the California perspective, 1736 01:34:21,205 --> 01:34:24,285 these big massive fires of the fires that we're having up in 1737 01:34:26,245 --> 01:34:28,405 Colorado, stuff, much different floor and fauna. 1738 01:34:28,405 --> 01:34:32,165 We don't have the creo containing fuels 1739 01:34:32,165 --> 01:34:33,845 that are in other parts of the country. 1740 01:34:34,905 --> 01:34:36,725 But having seen such simple things 1741 01:34:36,745 --> 01:34:39,445 as a person tossing a cigarette off a deck, get 1742 01:34:40,065 --> 01:34:41,125 tossed into mulch 1743 01:34:41,305 --> 01:34:42,645 and have their house burned down, 1744 01:34:42,975 --> 01:34:45,885 which we've had on more than one occasions have a pretty 1745 01:34:46,075 --> 01:34:48,205 good understanding how a little bit of wind 1746 01:34:49,145 --> 01:34:52,645 in a small brush fire can impact a house. 1747 01:34:53,665 --> 01:34:57,405 And that's what we're really looking at with this plan is 1748 01:34:57,985 --> 01:34:59,245 how people can mitigate 1749 01:35:01,985 --> 01:35:04,285 and help maybe prevent in their own yards 1750 01:35:04,285 --> 01:35:05,485 and their own things 1751 01:35:05,545 --> 01:35:08,525 and the resources that they can have to reach that stuff. 1752 01:35:08,525 --> 01:35:11,685 Because we are looking at a changing biome in this state. 1753 01:35:13,545 --> 01:35:17,205 Mr. Neely who has experience with Western wildfires 1754 01:35:18,915 --> 01:35:22,445 pointed out that we're dealing with drought, insect disease, 1755 01:35:23,245 --> 01:35:25,805 ash bore, if you've walked in some of the woods, 1756 01:35:25,825 --> 01:35:28,685 you can see some of the damages that they bring down 1757 01:35:28,705 --> 01:35:29,885 and these trees bring down. 1758 01:35:30,905 --> 01:35:32,965 We also looked at, 1759 01:35:33,545 --> 01:35:37,085 and I walked through, it was very informative, a lot 1760 01:35:37,085 --> 01:35:39,245 of the conservation lands that we 1761 01:35:39,305 --> 01:35:41,805 as the town council are the ultimate stewards 1762 01:35:41,825 --> 01:35:43,365 for in this community. 1763 01:35:43,865 --> 01:35:47,405 And got to see the fire species that are occurring 1764 01:35:47,985 --> 01:35:51,045 in these conservation lands that the only way these stands 1765 01:35:51,065 --> 01:35:53,805 of trees pitch pine in particular 1766 01:35:55,745 --> 01:35:56,885 are there is 1767 01:35:56,885 --> 01:36:00,525 because there was a significant fire in the past on those 1768 01:36:00,525 --> 01:36:01,725 conservation lands. 1769 01:36:04,305 --> 01:36:06,365 New Hampshire has had a history of some of this stuff 1770 01:36:06,585 --> 01:36:10,005 and this is a proactive document to help guide people 1771 01:36:10,505 --> 01:36:11,805 to use as a resource. 1772 01:36:11,955 --> 01:36:14,365 It's not perfect, it shouldn't be 1773 01:36:16,105 --> 01:36:18,075 because if it was a perfect document 1774 01:36:18,425 --> 01:36:19,675 then we wouldn't have a problem. 1775 01:36:21,215 --> 01:36:23,475 We need, we need documents 1776 01:36:23,475 --> 01:36:26,795 and to have discussions like this without, 1777 01:36:27,895 --> 01:36:31,555 and I have all the faith in Beth Carver 1778 01:36:31,615 --> 01:36:33,235 and Val 1779 01:36:34,415 --> 01:36:35,475 and all the other people 1780 01:36:35,475 --> 01:36:37,235 that work very hard in this document. 1781 01:36:38,135 --> 01:36:43,075 And it like our hazardous mitigation band plan, 1782 01:36:43,085 --> 01:36:47,915 which it is based on, it looks at 1783 01:36:48,255 --> 01:36:50,315 how we can educate homeowners 1784 01:36:50,315 --> 01:36:52,155 and the different tools that we can use. 1785 01:36:52,815 --> 01:36:55,395 And if I remember right, the properties that you identify 1786 01:36:56,095 --> 01:36:58,555 by name are because they're large property owners 1787 01:36:58,585 --> 01:37:00,035 with large tracks of land. 1788 01:37:00,035 --> 01:37:01,435 Correct. Yeah. 1789 01:37:02,455 --> 01:37:05,195 So looking at again, risk assessment tools. 1790 01:37:06,175 --> 01:37:08,715 So I want to thank Beth 1791 01:37:09,495 --> 01:37:11,395 and John for their hard work. 1792 01:37:12,745 --> 01:37:14,035 It's not a perfect document, 1793 01:37:16,375 --> 01:37:20,355 but it shouldn't be Mr. 1794 01:37:20,445 --> 01:37:21,445 Chair, 1795 01:37:23,935 --> 01:37:27,035 How often do we anticipate that this document's going 1796 01:37:27,035 --> 01:37:28,835 to be reviewed for any changes? 1797 01:37:29,755 --> 01:37:31,875 I did just pull it up. 1798 01:37:32,115 --> 01:37:34,675 I know one of the people that spoke during public, 1799 01:37:35,135 --> 01:37:36,675 the public hearing had questioned 1800 01:37:36,675 --> 01:37:38,515 that their name being in the document 1801 01:37:38,935 --> 01:37:42,035 and when you start tying names to to parcels 1802 01:37:42,035 --> 01:37:45,035 and those people move and the documents now 10 years old, 1803 01:37:46,535 --> 01:37:47,955 how is that gonna be addressed? 1804 01:37:48,015 --> 01:37:50,875 Or is the document gonna be be reviewed every 1805 01:37:50,905 --> 01:37:52,155 year, every couple years? 1806 01:37:53,585 --> 01:37:55,925 Because I did notice throughout the document 1807 01:37:55,925 --> 01:37:58,725 that parcel IDs did have individuals 1808 01:37:58,725 --> 01:38:01,205 that currently own the property tied to it. 1809 01:38:03,325 --> 01:38:06,965 I would suggest that it goes sort of similar 1810 01:38:07,065 --> 01:38:10,125 to the hazard mitigation plan like five, five years. 1811 01:38:12,265 --> 01:38:14,285 It does say that it's a living document 1812 01:38:15,025 --> 01:38:18,605 and so if you get something that changes 1813 01:38:20,265 --> 01:38:24,125 in your town, say a wind event, another 1814 01:38:24,865 --> 01:38:27,005 insect and disease that changes your fuels, 1815 01:38:27,355 --> 01:38:30,845 then you do have the option to move earlier and, 1816 01:38:32,505 --> 01:38:35,245 but I would, I would say trying to align it 1817 01:38:35,245 --> 01:38:37,885 with a hazard mitigation plan on a five year basis. 1818 01:38:38,675 --> 01:38:42,805 Okay. Thank you Mr. Chair. Seeing no further? Nope. 1819 01:38:45,495 --> 01:38:48,965 Thank you Mr. Chair. So I, 1820 01:38:50,535 --> 01:38:51,535 Sorry, sorry. 1821 01:38:52,505 --> 01:38:55,605 So sounds like some people saying they haven't seen this 1822 01:38:55,805 --> 01:38:57,485 document or there's some, a lot of questions 1823 01:38:57,505 --> 01:38:59,365 and it seems that there might be some ambi 1824 01:38:59,365 --> 01:39:00,445 ambiguity with some people. 1825 01:39:00,585 --> 01:39:05,375 So I think just to be prudent due, 1826 01:39:05,375 --> 01:39:07,215 due diligence, I think maybe I'll make the motion 1827 01:39:07,235 --> 01:39:09,255 to table this until October 20th. 1828 01:39:09,965 --> 01:39:13,895 It's not gonna, Alright, 1829 01:39:13,955 --> 01:39:15,055 any discussion on the motion? 1830 01:39:16,855 --> 01:39:18,255 I just have one comment. I'm gonna agree 1831 01:39:18,255 --> 01:39:19,815 with the motion to table. 1832 01:39:20,055 --> 01:39:21,735 I think this is a, a great document, 1833 01:39:22,035 --> 01:39:24,095 but I think to alleviate the public concerns, 1834 01:39:24,505 --> 01:39:26,095 it'll allow them time to look at it 1835 01:39:26,755 --> 01:39:31,295 and if they do have pertinent comments to please email you. 1836 01:39:31,595 --> 01:39:34,375 And again, you're the people that have worked it 1837 01:39:34,375 --> 01:39:36,135 and offered it and I will have full faith in 1838 01:39:36,135 --> 01:39:37,975 how you develop it 1839 01:39:39,195 --> 01:39:40,575 And just follow up with that Mr. 1840 01:39:40,575 --> 01:39:42,895 Chair. And I do support the document as is, 1841 01:39:42,895 --> 01:39:44,735 but I, I'm just trying to be fair and, 1842 01:39:44,735 --> 01:39:46,895 and due process for everybody out there. 1843 01:39:47,075 --> 01:39:50,415 So I just think that's the reason for my motion. Yeah. 1844 01:39:51,075 --> 01:39:54,455 Any other discussion? Just for, for clarification, 1845 01:39:54,455 --> 01:39:57,295 when we bring it back up, it won't be a public hearing 1846 01:39:57,355 --> 01:39:58,735 or will we have a public hearing? 1847 01:40:01,115 --> 01:40:04,015 So I think procedurally we'll have to decide if, if 1848 01:40:04,535 --> 01:40:07,255 anything has been substantively changed. 1849 01:40:07,615 --> 01:40:11,535 I think you have to reopen that as a public hearing. 1850 01:40:11,795 --> 01:40:14,175 So I think that's just something we have to be mindful. 1851 01:40:14,355 --> 01:40:17,335 If it there's no changes, then you're coming back up 1852 01:40:17,335 --> 01:40:19,215 as a tabled manner on the 20th. 1853 01:40:19,635 --> 01:40:24,535 So perhaps procedurally then is for Beth to notify you 1854 01:40:24,595 --> 01:40:27,375 by our October 6th meeting? 1855 01:40:27,915 --> 01:40:30,695 Yes. That if there are substantive changes, 1856 01:40:31,405 --> 01:40:34,375 then we can put a public hearing as part 1857 01:40:34,375 --> 01:40:35,855 of bring it back forth. 1858 01:40:36,165 --> 01:40:37,455 Yeah. Okay. 1859 01:40:38,905 --> 01:40:40,495 Right. And I think that would just answer a lot 1860 01:40:40,495 --> 01:40:41,735 of questions for anyone at home or, 1861 01:40:41,835 --> 01:40:45,215 or even staff does anything they wanna double check 1862 01:40:45,275 --> 01:40:46,375 or amend or whatnot. 1863 01:40:46,885 --> 01:40:48,735 Just give everyone the benefit of doubt and, 1864 01:40:48,795 --> 01:40:50,455 and not rush it through if we don't have 1865 01:40:50,455 --> 01:40:52,655 to. Thank you Mr. Chair. 1866 01:40:53,625 --> 01:40:56,645 Any other comments? Okay. Councilor Chase? Yes. 1867 01:40:57,035 --> 01:41:01,685 Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Councilor Mills? 1868 01:41:01,785 --> 01:41:05,525 Yes. Councilor Healey? Yes. Councillor Spencer? 1869 01:41:06,505 --> 01:41:08,965 Yes. Chair votes yes to table this 1870 01:41:08,965 --> 01:41:10,005 to the October 20th meeting. 1871 01:41:11,535 --> 01:41:13,885 Thank you. Thank You. Thank you Beth. Thank you John. 1872 01:41:24,585 --> 01:41:28,845 New business. Just double checking. Yep. 1873 01:41:28,845 --> 01:41:32,005 We're onto new business and working at 26 86. 1874 01:41:32,805 --> 01:41:36,365 Resolution 2026 dash 0 5 1 to direct the tax collector not 1875 01:41:36,365 --> 01:41:37,525 to execute certain deeds. 1876 01:41:37,865 --> 01:41:40,045 Tax collector Stacey Bevo presenting. 1877 01:41:47,435 --> 01:41:51,845 Good evening. So I am here this evening 1878 01:41:51,955 --> 01:41:53,525 regarding a tax deed. 1879 01:41:54,365 --> 01:41:57,165 I began the process tax deed process in August. 1880 01:41:57,915 --> 01:41:59,765 Currently there are 30 parcels 1881 01:41:59,765 --> 01:42:02,605 for which I am requesting deed waivers for various reasons 1882 01:42:02,785 --> 01:42:06,845 as previously provided, we will continue to work diligently 1883 01:42:06,905 --> 01:42:08,085 to reduce these numbers. 1884 01:42:08,695 --> 01:42:09,695 Thank you. 1885 01:42:13,085 --> 01:42:15,305 Any questions? Nope. 1886 01:42:16,495 --> 01:42:18,345 Just to point out how the, the work 1887 01:42:18,345 --> 01:42:19,665 that the tax collector does 1888 01:42:20,305 --> 01:42:21,425 when it was first put on the agenda, 1889 01:42:21,445 --> 01:42:23,825 how many items were on it? 1890 01:42:24,705 --> 01:42:27,505 37. 37. And how many are on today? 1891 01:42:27,605 --> 01:42:30,985 30. So in the, just in the past week 1892 01:42:30,985 --> 01:42:34,705 or so, you've been able to reduce that number by seven? 1893 01:42:35,245 --> 01:42:37,505 Yes. So thank you for your hard work on that. 1894 01:42:37,755 --> 01:42:38,185 Thank you. 1895 01:42:42,755 --> 01:42:43,775 Do you No other discussion. 1896 01:42:44,515 --> 01:42:46,055 Do we need a public hearing on this? 1897 01:42:46,195 --> 01:42:47,695 No, no, no new business. 1898 01:42:48,075 --> 01:42:50,455 Mr. Chair. Seeing no other questions 1899 01:42:50,455 --> 01:42:54,975 or concerns, I move resolution number 2026 dash five one 1900 01:42:55,315 --> 01:42:57,055 to direct the tax collector not 1901 01:42:57,055 --> 01:43:01,175 to execute certain tax deeds, whereas Section 5.1 1902 01:43:01,175 --> 01:43:03,615 of the Town Charter establishes the town council 1903 01:43:04,155 --> 01:43:06,615 as the legislative and governing body of the town. 1904 01:43:07,075 --> 01:43:11,575 And whereas RSA 80 76 sets forth the procedure 1905 01:43:11,675 --> 01:43:14,575 for conveying tax deeded properties to the town. 1906 01:43:15,035 --> 01:43:19,415 And whereas pursuant to RSA 80 76 sections two 1907 01:43:19,835 --> 01:43:22,615 and two A, the governing body may refuse 1908 01:43:22,675 --> 01:43:24,975 to accept a deed on certain properties 1909 01:43:25,775 --> 01:43:27,855 whenever in its judgment, acceptance 1910 01:43:27,875 --> 01:43:30,895 and ownership of those properties would subject the 1911 01:43:30,895 --> 01:43:35,135 municipality to undesirable obligations or liability risks. 1912 01:43:35,555 --> 01:43:38,255 And whereas the town is identified properties eligible 1913 01:43:38,275 --> 01:43:39,415 for tax deed, 1914 01:43:39,445 --> 01:43:41,015 however, acceptance 1915 01:43:41,195 --> 01:43:44,095 of ownership would not be in the town's best interest. 1916 01:43:44,715 --> 01:43:46,255 Now therefore, be it resolved 1917 01:43:46,365 --> 01:43:49,255 that the tax collector is hereby directed not 1918 01:43:49,275 --> 01:43:50,695 to execute a tax deed 1919 01:43:50,695 --> 01:43:53,845 as set forth on the attached list pursuant 1920 01:43:53,845 --> 01:43:56,205 to RSA 80 76. 1921 01:43:56,205 --> 01:43:58,645 Section three. The Town Council may 1922 01:43:59,435 --> 01:44:01,685 revisit this decision at any time 1923 01:44:02,025 --> 01:44:04,845 and may later direct the tax collector to issue a deed 1924 01:44:04,845 --> 01:44:07,205 for the property subject to this directive. 1925 01:44:07,475 --> 01:44:09,165 This resolution shall take 1926 01:44:09,785 --> 01:44:11,765 effect immediately upon its passage. 1927 01:44:12,305 --> 01:44:13,305 Second, 1928 01:44:15,005 --> 01:44:16,085 A motion made by Councilor 1929 01:44:16,085 --> 01:44:17,325 Mills seconded by Councilor Foot. 1930 01:44:17,325 --> 01:44:20,805 Do we have any discussion on it? See none. Councillor Chase? 1931 01:44:20,985 --> 01:44:24,045 Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. 1932 01:44:24,315 --> 01:44:28,245 Council Councilor Mills? Yes. Councilor Healy? Yes. 1933 01:44:28,395 --> 01:44:32,165 Councilor Spencer? Yes. Chair votes Yes. 1934 01:44:32,915 --> 01:44:36,285 Measure passes. Seven zero. Moving on to Thank you. 1935 01:44:36,285 --> 01:44:38,205 Thank you. Sorry. 1936 01:44:39,145 --> 01:44:41,605 Moving on to new business 26 dash 88. 1937 01:44:41,805 --> 01:44:43,645 Resolution 2026 dash 0 5 3 1938 01:44:43,985 --> 01:44:45,725 to authorize an interagency agreement 1939 01:44:45,785 --> 01:44:50,045 for Justice Assistant Grant with Rockingham County, please. 1940 01:44:50,045 --> 01:44:51,205 Chief fii presenting. 1941 01:44:52,435 --> 01:44:54,085 Good evening again. Again, counsel. 1942 01:44:55,235 --> 01:44:56,765 This evening I want to talk about 1943 01:44:57,465 --> 01:45:00,605 the 2026 Justice Assistance Grant program. 1944 01:45:01,555 --> 01:45:02,605 It's a two step process 1945 01:45:02,865 --> 01:45:04,445 as it has been in many years in the past. 1946 01:45:05,565 --> 01:45:07,725 First, we need to execute an inter-local agreement 1947 01:45:07,725 --> 01:45:09,965 between the town of DER and Rockingham County. 1948 01:45:10,035 --> 01:45:12,805 They will be the fiscal agent for this grant. 1949 01:45:13,145 --> 01:45:14,565 We were recently advised 1950 01:45:14,875 --> 01:45:18,485 that the 2026 Justice Assistance Grant program was open 1951 01:45:18,545 --> 01:45:21,205 and that the town of Dairy was in line to receive an award 1952 01:45:21,205 --> 01:45:24,325 of $14,341. 1953 01:45:25,375 --> 01:45:28,365 Since Rockingham County is the fiscal agent, 1954 01:45:28,635 --> 01:45:32,445 they charge a 7% administrative fee to be the agent 1955 01:45:32,465 --> 01:45:35,645 and they will receive $1,003 of that total, 1956 01:45:36,455 --> 01:45:39,245 which will mean the Town of Dairy will see a net total 1957 01:45:39,305 --> 01:45:43,005 of $13,338 from that grant. 1958 01:45:44,435 --> 01:45:47,565 Just by way of introduction, our plan this year is 1959 01:45:47,565 --> 01:45:49,765 to utilize those funds to replace 1960 01:45:50,955 --> 01:45:54,165 expired ballistic plates that we carry in our cruisers. 1961 01:45:55,005 --> 01:45:59,605 These are rifle rated plates versus the typical body armor 1962 01:45:59,605 --> 01:46:02,125 that our officers wear, which protect against handgun 1963 01:46:02,125 --> 01:46:03,125 caliber ammunition. 1964 01:46:03,125 --> 01:46:07,005 Typically, we would propose 1965 01:46:07,025 --> 01:46:11,525 to buy 12 sets of, of that, those plates and carriers. 1966 01:46:13,585 --> 01:46:15,485 You will see this again more fully, 1967 01:46:15,665 --> 01:46:19,165 the plan more fully on October 6th at a public hearing. 1968 01:46:20,045 --> 01:46:21,405 Captain Micho will be be 1969 01:46:21,425 --> 01:46:23,445 before you that evening to present the plan. 1970 01:46:24,505 --> 01:46:29,165 All we're looking for tonight is to get your permission 1971 01:46:29,165 --> 01:46:31,085 to execute the agreement with Rockham County. 1972 01:46:32,745 --> 01:46:33,745 I'm happy to answer questions. 1973 01:46:34,905 --> 01:46:39,045 Any questions? Seeing none, Mr. 1974 01:46:39,135 --> 01:46:41,245 Chair, I move resolution number 1975 01:46:41,245 --> 01:46:44,925 20 26 0 5 3 1976 01:46:44,985 --> 01:46:48,405 to authorize an interagency agreement with Rockingham County 1977 01:46:48,985 --> 01:46:52,125 for the US Bureau of Justice Assistance grant 1978 01:46:52,225 --> 01:46:53,805 for law enforcement equipment. 1979 01:46:53,995 --> 01:46:57,765 Whereas Section nine period 15 of the Town Charter 1980 01:46:58,335 --> 01:47:00,885 authorizes the Town Council to accept grant funding 1981 01:47:01,185 --> 01:47:04,005 and whereas the Town Council has long recognized the need 1982 01:47:04,005 --> 01:47:06,405 to keep up with technological advances 1983 01:47:06,405 --> 01:47:07,765 for emergency services 1984 01:47:08,345 --> 01:47:11,125 and whereas Rockingham County has received a Bureau 1985 01:47:11,265 --> 01:47:16,045 of Justice Assistance grant in the federal FY 26 budget 1986 01:47:16,545 --> 01:47:19,845 and whereas the town of Dairy qualifies as a subrecipient 1987 01:47:20,105 --> 01:47:23,405 for signing by signing an inter-agency agreement. 1988 01:47:23,665 --> 01:47:25,925 Now therefore be it resolved in counsel 1989 01:47:26,355 --> 01:47:29,045 that the town administrator is hereby authorized 1990 01:47:29,065 --> 01:47:32,645 to sign the Inter-Agency Agreement with Rockingham County 1991 01:47:33,065 --> 01:47:35,485 as a prerequisite to receive US Bureau 1992 01:47:35,585 --> 01:47:37,805 of Justice Assistance grant funds. 1993 01:47:38,235 --> 01:47:40,285 This resolution shall take effect 1994 01:47:40,285 --> 01:47:41,805 immediately upon its passage. 1995 01:47:42,745 --> 01:47:45,645 Second Motion made by Councilor Mills, 1996 01:47:45,645 --> 01:47:46,765 seconded by Councilor Foot. 1997 01:47:47,185 --> 01:47:52,045 Any discussion on the motion? Councilor Chase? Yes. 1998 01:47:52,555 --> 01:47:57,405 Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Foot? Yes. Councilor Mills? 1999 01:47:57,505 --> 01:48:00,885 Yes. Councilor Healy? Yes. Councilor Spencer? 2000 01:48:01,985 --> 01:48:04,405 Yes. And the chair votes? Yes. 2001 01:48:05,645 --> 01:48:06,965 Resolution passes seven zero. 2002 01:48:07,625 --> 01:48:10,445 Moving on to councilor comments and liaison reports. 2003 01:48:10,825 --> 01:48:12,125 Do you have any Councilor Spencer? 2004 01:48:14,845 --> 01:48:18,885 I do. Just wanna, I just wanna commend, I I, it continues 2005 01:48:18,885 --> 01:48:23,325 to impress me how much our departments and, and individuals 2006 01:48:23,505 --> 01:48:24,925 and working for the town. 2007 01:48:25,075 --> 01:48:29,765 Just they, they're constantly improving professionally 2008 01:48:30,625 --> 01:48:33,125 and I just think that we're a standout and, 2009 01:48:33,185 --> 01:48:35,205 and they set an example for other towns 2010 01:48:35,205 --> 01:48:38,365 between our police this evening, our town clerk last month 2011 01:48:38,365 --> 01:48:39,485 that, or a couple months ago. 2012 01:48:40,425 --> 01:48:42,325 We just, it seems there's always somebody 2013 01:48:42,345 --> 01:48:44,885 or some department really looking to advance 2014 01:48:44,945 --> 01:48:47,085 and do better for, for the community. 2015 01:48:47,085 --> 01:48:49,565 And I just wanna thank them for that and acknowledge that. 2016 01:48:50,165 --> 01:48:52,725 I think we're, we're pretty special in that 2017 01:48:54,255 --> 01:48:58,835 Second that Any other councilor comments this evening? 2018 01:49:00,235 --> 01:49:03,435 I disagree very wholeheartedly with Councilor Spencer. 2019 01:49:06,235 --> 01:49:07,675 I have none this evening. So 2020 01:49:09,095 --> 01:49:10,095 My favorite motion. 2021 01:49:10,735 --> 01:49:12,115 Motion to adjourn please. 2022 01:49:12,455 --> 01:49:15,995 Second. Motion to adjourn made by Councilor Mill. 2023 01:49:15,995 --> 01:49:20,035 Second and by Councilor Flood. Councilor Chase? Yes. 2024 01:49:20,185 --> 01:49:24,475 Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Flood? Yes. Councilor Mills? 2025 01:49:24,775 --> 01:49:27,395 Yes. Councilor Healy. Yes. Councillor Spencer? 2026 01:49:28,415 --> 01:49:30,795 Yes. Chair votes Yes. Meeting adjourned. 2027 01:49:31,565 --> 01:49:32,995 Thank you everyone. I.