[1:48] You can leave right there. [2:22] This doesn't have to be in your face. Pretty good. But like right there once [2:26] they move up. [3:40] All right. Good evening, everybody. Uh, welcome to the meeting of the City of [3:44] Desert Hot Springs Public Safety Commission. It's Thursday, September [3:47] 10th at 6 PM. Uh, we're going to call the meeting to order. Uh, Gerald, can we [3:53] please get a roll call? >> Commissioner Flores, [3:56] » here. >> Commissioner Lance, [3:57] » present. >> Commissioner Sanchez, [3:59] » here. >> Vice Chair Lozono [4:01] » here. and chairman Meyer >> here. [4:04] » Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, Gerald. Uh we'll [4:06] move on to the pledge of allegiance. Uh Donna, you want to lead us in that? [4:11] » I sure do. >> Thank you. [4:14] » Hand over heart. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America [4:20] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with [4:26] liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you everybody. [4:30] » Thank you, Don. Okay. [4:32] » All right. [4:36] We need approval of the agenda. >> I make a motion to approve the agenda. [4:42] » I'll second that. >> Okay. You got those, Gerald? Do you want [4:47] us to vote? Uh, you want to do a roll call or you want us to hit the button? [4:50] » Um, on the screen. >> It's on. You hit the button. Okay. [4:54] » It's way up there. >> Oh, there it is. [4:56] » Where is it? >> I can't. [4:59] » You got it. It's kind of light. It's right there. [5:02] » There you go. >> Motion passes unanimously. [5:06] » Okay. Motion passes uh unanimously. Uh I noticed there's no approval of minutes. [5:10] We're all caught up there, right, Gerald? [5:11] » Um I wasn't able to get this last set in time for this agenda, but it'll be on [5:16] the next uh we'll catch them upg [5:21] uh public comments. Uh at this time pursuant to the Brown Act, any person [5:24] may comment on matters of general interest within the subject matter [5:28] jurisdiction of the public safety commission not listed on the agenda. [5:34] Okay. Uh under the Brown Act, the public safety commission should not take action [5:38] on or discuss matters raised during public comment portion of the agenda. [5:44] And I'm going to put my glasses on because I am having a hard time reading [5:46] that. You >> got older. [5:48] » Thank you, Donnie. Yes, I did get older. So uh it was only two months. Speakers [5:52] may not yield their time to others without consent of the chair. All [5:56] comments are to be directed to the public safety commission and shall be [5:59] devoid of any personal attacks. Members of the public are expected to maintain a [6:03] professional courteous decorum during public comments. Please complete and [6:06] submit a speaker card and we have one uh to the city clerk. You will be asked to [6:11] state your name and city of residence for the record. And we do have one [6:15] speaker card. And is it Mr. Leco? >> Emory. Yeah. Just [6:19] » Yes. please step up. Thank you, sir. >> Uh, dear commission members, um, and our [6:26] chief, I just wanted to say that, you know, you guys are doing a great job out [6:31] there. You've helped us immensely at Miracle Springs and at the spa, and I [6:36] can't even thank you guys enough for what you do. And, um, I just had, um, [6:42] you know, the interactions with our business. we probably are your most [6:47] called places because of, you know, we're a we're the lower price leader [6:51] kind of in the area. And I just want to say thank you. That's first. Secondly, [6:56] um I did want to ask one question. Does the city of Desert Hot Springs have the [7:02] lowest crime rate in Coachella Valley? Can you speak to that and let me know [7:06] kind of where we're at in the pecking order? Um cuz I'd heard we had the [7:11] lowest rate and I'm like, "Oh, wow. Is that true? [7:16] » You you uh we'll let uh Lieutenant Kuranza handle that when he does his [7:20] report on the administrative reports if that's okay with you cuz we we can't [7:24] answer you right here right now. >> Oh, no. I And I understand that. It was [7:28] just I was like, "Okay, wow. That's great." If that's that's where we're at [7:32] and then how do we help, right? Anyway, thank you very much. [7:37] » All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Okay. And yeah, I got a feeling, [7:40] Lieutenant, you'll be able to handle that that inquiry. Yeah, I knew it. [7:44] Somehow I knew it. So, all right, let's go to the uh animal control monthly [7:48] report. Tyler, are we ready? Or are you going to have somebody else do it? [7:52] » So, I'm actually going to have our lead animal control officer be uh stepping [7:55] into this position for me on the commission so he can review the reports [7:58] for you guys so you get it straight straight from him. [8:04] That >> better. There you go. [8:10] whenever you're ready. >> Okay. Good evening, commissioners. Our [8:13] animal con care and control month re report for August 2026, [8:19] we had a total of 124 service requests completed, [8:25] seven administrative citations issued, 14 animal licenses issued, nine license [8:32] renewal reminders sent. [8:37] 61 animals received into care, 23 veterary visits provided, 43 [8:44] vaccinations administered, 14 microchips provided, [8:50] 18 returned to owners, six adopted into new homes and 11 transferred to rescue [8:58] partners. We had a total of 16 animals dead on [9:04] arrival. one animal that passed away while in our [9:08] care and two humane euthanasia for severe medical conditions. [9:15] After hours on August 13th at approximately 3:45 p.m. 10 puppies were [9:21] discovered at one of our facilities by our lead kennel Joe who contract [9:28] contacted our officers and Tyler and two of our officers that were on that day um [9:35] arrived at the facility helped Joe capture all the puppies. Two of them [9:39] were hiding under vehicles. Um, everybody was as dirty as can be, [9:45] dehydrated. Um, they gathered them all up, [9:48] vaccinated them, fed fed them, gave them water. Um, [9:54] and we reached out to several rescue organizations. Um, eventually getting [10:00] them into, um, [10:03] the Helen Woodward Animal Center on August 19th where they took over their [10:09] care. and uh eventually got him into homes. [10:19] » All right. >> Is that it? [10:20] » Any that's it? >> Is that it? Yep. Thank you. Is there any [10:23] questions? >> And what's your name again, sir? [10:26] » Uh Jonathan Nitz. >> Jonathan. Okay. All right. [10:29] » It's right. It's right there on your thing there. [10:35] » Please, Donna, go ahead. >> Um the puppies were they of all one [10:41] Yeah, as far as they can tell based on their the looks and the teeth and the [10:45] age. Yeah, I would say so. >> What were they like? [10:49] » They were like little shepherd Australian cattle dog. [10:54] » They were fluffy. They were fluffy fluffy [10:55] » mix. >> They're definitely a fluffy large breed [10:58] when they entered our care. >> Where did you find them? [11:01] » Uh they were found at our facility on Indian Canyon. Some We believe somebody [11:05] dropped them over the fence. Um, yeah, >> that's a lot of puppies. [11:10] » Yes, it is. >> Great job. Thank you. [11:13] » Oh, thank you. >> Yeah, we're just we're thankful that we [11:15] had somebody on staff still at the facility that was able to uh witness [11:18] them on the ground. So, we're able to round them up and take care of them, [11:21] give them baths, give them vaccinations, make sure they had food and water, they [11:23] weren't dehydrated, no serious medical concerns that would require us taking [11:27] them over to urgent care or a vet that night. Um, it what the good news that [11:31] came out of it was we were able to build that partnership with the Helen Woodward [11:34] Animal Center. So, we um that that's a big partnership for us. We're really [11:40] glad to have that one. They they're they're a really great organization who [11:43] does thousands of adoptions every year. So, we're hoping to continue our [11:46] partnership and that this outcome has brought us that partnership. [11:51] » Great. Good news. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. [11:55] » Other questions for Jonathan? I remembered his name. That's a good [11:59] thing. >> Thank you. [12:01] » No, you're good. >> I got one. Just one, please. Right. [12:03] » Yeah. The citations issued were those mainly for just like violations or no [12:07] licenses or things like that or >> Yeah. So most of them are for [12:12] violations. Um our most common one is licensing. [12:20] » Okay. And I have two questions. First question is is uh where is this Helen [12:24] Woodward facility at? So, if people want to go there and they want to look and [12:29] see maybe adopt a puppy from or a dog that's come from Desert Hot Springs and [12:33] they've been gracious enough to take from, where can people find them? [12:36] » Oh, absolutely. So, I had the pleasure of actually doing a tour of that [12:39] facility and and meeting their staff and their management and kind of picking [12:42] their brain a little bit on how we can up our adoptions. They're actually [12:45] located out in San Diego, >> but um I would encourage anybody to go [12:49] down there. They have a whole education center down there. So, if anybody just [12:52] wants to go down there for that trip, it's a beautiful facility. I strongly [12:55] encourage it. I do think they still have a handful of our puppies left. [12:58] » Okay. All right. And the second question, and please don't take this as [13:03] a complaint, okay? It's going to sound like one, but [13:06] it's not. Trust me, it's not. Uh my my wife had to call the other day, uh [13:11] animal control. We had a a coyote who's injured, sick, mangy. It wasn't afraid [13:17] of humans for the most part, which she called me and said, "It's not like [13:20] taking off." And I'm like, "That's not a good sign." Uh because usually coyotes [13:25] see a human, they take. And I said, "Go ahead and call animal control. See if [13:29] they can do something because it's sick and it's and it's acting aggressive." Uh [13:33] she did. Your team was on the spot like super quick. And uh the dog the coyote [13:39] ran off uh and you know uh she was told that there's nothing really we can do as [13:45] a city. Okay. And then she was uh given a number to call for the county. [13:54] there wasn't anything there. They just said call the city. Uh and then, you [13:59] know, and then she tried to call the a wildlife number and all she got was like [14:03] a pre-recorded thing. Uh you know, my question is is and I get it. If we're [14:08] not allowed to handle those, we're not allowed to handle them as a city. I get [14:10] that. I think you I think the control officer mentioned there was some code or [14:14] section that prevents us from doing that. But I'm just wondering how do we I [14:19] mean is there a way to deal with a problem like that? I mean, you know, I [14:24] you know, I just I went out I cen peppered where the dog the coyote was [14:28] hanging out and figured out he's drinking water out of Mono. I busted [14:31] water lines. I'm the bad guy. So, I'm getting that fixed. uh but and and that [14:36] we haven't had it back. But I'm just wondering, you know, someone who doesn't [14:39] have that ability to do that or that knowledge, how do we is there a better [14:42] way for us to do it or is there maybe you could explain the process when [14:46] dealing with wildlife like that? I mean, >> obviously there's some rules with that. [14:51] » Yeah. So, the Riverside County will come out if they're actually injured and [14:56] they're not mobile. So if a your typical I think I remember this call but the the [15:03] coyote was limping but it's still running off 100 miles an hour over [15:07] exaggerating a little bit. Um so they're not going to come out and chase it [15:11] around the net. However, if it were injured and just laying there where they [15:16] knew they can catch it, they will come out. Um as far as [15:21] we go, I think we would have to go through [15:24] schooling and get certified for that. >> Yeah. So coyotes uh they carry rabies a [15:29] lot of times coyotes, bats, stuff like that. So anytime it comes to a wildlife [15:33] in particular like that, unless it's deceased, we're going to partner with [15:36] the county on that one just so they can they can help us assist us taking care [15:39] of that one. >> Okay. So the key for the county to come [15:43] out is and and there's a reason you guys exist that started years ago and the [15:49] county is not here anymore. So So the key to them is that it has to be [15:53] immobile. >> Yeah. Correct. Okay. If it's not [15:55] immobile, they're probably not going to come out for something like that unless [15:58] it's a danger to like let's say if it's hopping in your backyard and attacking [16:01] your dogs or something like that, then absolutely call us. We'll come out there [16:04] for something like that, too. But we're going to partner with the county at the [16:06] same time. So >> Okay. All right. All right. You guys [16:10] know that? >> I do now. [16:12] » I do now. Yeah. So, all right. Cool. >> Thank you. [16:15] » Any Did that spur any other questions? You guys got any other questions? No. [16:18] Okay, we're good. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. All right. Let's move on [16:23] to uh the code compliance monthly report. Tyler, [16:28] » so for this month with code compliance, I'm actually going to allow Linda Hume, [16:32] one of my code officers. She's a code officer too, one of our senior code [16:34] officers. She's going to deliver the report this week. [16:38] » Uh good evening. Um code compliance um public safety commission um report for [16:45] the month of August 2026. Um we had 188 service calls. We completed 188 [16:53] inspections. Um, notices of violations was 124. [17:00] Um, we had 29 citations issued. Um, we've opened 117 cases [17:08] and the total amount of dollars for the month of August was 191 [17:14] $100. Sorry. Um you'll see down here that we do have [17:19] some um cases that we're pretty proud of of um Lonnie Brock. Um she had this [17:25] rental property that um had extreme um dead vegetation and very bad overgrowth. [17:32] Um it did take her a little while, but the property owner did finally come in [17:36] compliance and um is now um one of one of the nice properties on the street. [17:43] Um there's another one here for the U-Hauls. Um that was my case. Um we had [17:48] a business that um started having U-Hauls as a business that wasn't [17:53] licensed and it's not zoned for the area. So [17:56] » we were able to make contact with them and uh actually with that U-Haul company [18:00] and they were more than willing to come get all those U-Hauls. So we we handled [18:03] that one pretty quickly. Um then we have the community response team enforcement. [18:09] Of course, they are doing uh a lot of work out there. Um lots of work. Um [18:15] you'll see some of our um recent ones and there's a lot more than this, but um [18:21] we have the one here on 5th uh 15th Avenue which was quite a big um lot [18:27] cleanup, um getting rid of the trash and debris. Um we have the one on Verbina [18:33] that was quite big, you know, closer to where you kind of see it from the [18:37] street. they were able to take care of that. And then we had a few um on on [18:42] Pearson Boulevard. It's just a few that we gave you, but um they're out there [18:46] doing a lot of cleanup throughout the whole city. So, and I would say that's [18:51] um my report if you have any questions. >> All right. Questions? [18:57] » No, I just want to say thank you. You guys have been doing a good job. So, [19:01] » I know you did a couple of things down our street. So, thank you. [19:04] » Yeah, I'll let everybody know. Thank you. Those are uh big improvements. It's [19:10] beautiful. Very nice. Yeah, I'm impressed. And um does that have [19:15] anything to do with streets? I mean like potholes. [19:21] » That would be engineering. Engineering handles um any potholes. So, if we get [19:25] any complaints, uh, we we we redirect it over to engineering and they're pretty [19:29] good about response and getting it on their list to make [19:32] » because I've there's a lot of them on Pearson [19:36] towards Indian Avenue. Yeah, >> I'll I'll I'll I'll let them know that [19:41] that's >> I appreciate it. Thank you. Other than [19:44] that, I'm impressed. I think it's beautiful all the work that you do and [19:48] I, as MNA says, thank you very much. No problem. [19:53] » Actually, I just wanted to address what Donna was saying. Uh on the Desert Hot [19:56] Springs website, there is a place where residents can report potholes and the [20:01] engineering department is pretty quick in responding and come out there and [20:04] » uh they just ask the location and send pictures if you got them and I reported [20:09] a couple and like a day or two they're they're taken care of. So, [20:12] » wow. >> Oh, I'll do that. Thank you very much, [20:16] » Ray. You're good. Okay. All right. >> Thank you. See, you both survived the [20:21] first time. It was It's a good thing. >> Yeah. Even Even your boss is smiling, [20:26] which is an even better thing, right? [20:31] » It's all good. Okay. I noticed that Chief White's not here tonight, so we'll [20:35] skip the fire department monthly report and we'll go to Lieutenant Kuransza for [20:40] the police department monthly report. Good evening, uh, commission members [20:46] and, uh, individuals in the crowd over here. Um, I'm Corey Kronz, Lieutenant [20:50] with the Desert Hot Springs Police Department. So, a couple things I want [20:53] to go over first. Um, first thing I'm going to go over is our group A offense [20:56] report for the month of August. Um, overall, we see there's a downhill trend [21:01] um, in comparison to last year in 2025. For crimes against uh, persons, total [21:07] crimes, we're down about 30%, just a little bit over that. For total property [21:11] crimes, we're down 27 and a.5% or correction 27 and a quarter percent. And [21:16] then crimes against society as a total is down 28% for an overall total group a [21:21] offense um reduction in 28.26%. [21:28] As far as our monthly, excuse me, as far as our monthly statistics go, our total [21:32] calls for service for the month of August were 1,862. [21:36] Out of those 1,862, 1,251 were officer initiated, so self-initiated activity. [21:44] Traffic stops, uh, we had 402 traffic stops, 568 bus and buildings checks, 91 [21:52] vehicle checks, and 190 pedestrian checks. As far as arrest goes, we had 18 [21:57] drug arrests, seven DUIs, uh 20 or excuse me, 35 felony arrests, 26 [22:04] misdemeanor arrests, and 47 warranted arrest for a total of 133 arrests for [22:09] the month of August. As far as citations go, we had 26 misdemeanor citations, 115 [22:16] moving citations. So, those are as a result, obviously, those traffic stops. [22:20] and 50 municipal code citations for a total of 191 citations for the month of [22:26] August. [22:29] » Yeah, very busy. Uh and that that concludes um the offense and our um our [22:35] stat stats for the month of August if anybody has any questions. [22:38] » So, >> I was before we get to questions, I was [22:42] going to ask you if you could please address the question that was brought up [22:46] during the the public comments thing. So I don't want to uh I don't want to say I [22:50] don't want to speak from like hard facts in front of me. I don't have everything [22:54] directly in front of me but anybody can get onto a cell phone and and go through [22:59] any sort of um you know Google search or AI generated um search but I do know [23:04] that um so our reporting system uh federally is through um a system we call [23:10] neighbors which is the national incident based reporting system. So basically if [23:14] we take a report for like a burglary then um it goes into the system and [23:18] that's reported at the end of every month. So based off of those statistics [23:22] and just in any sort of any sort of internet search it does show the city [23:26] deser hot springs you know having the lowest crime rate within Coachella [23:28] Valley. Now, um, we get into other, you know, minutia as far as like per capita [23:34] and this, that, and the other, but I mean, overall, as an individual who's [23:37] been a police officer for the city for well over a decade, um, I can attest to [23:42] significant reduction in, you know, violent crime and overall crime as it [23:45] goes. Um, and that's not just me tooting the horn of the police department and [23:48] the chief of police and the officers that are working. That's me looking at [23:52] it from as objective as a perspective as a police officer can be, especially in [23:56] an administrative role where I look at these things a lot more frequent. So [23:59] hopefully that answers your question a little bit. [24:03] » Yeah. And I I think you explained it great, L, Lieutenant. I mean, you know, [24:06] some of the minutia you have to look at is you it's kind of hard because all the [24:09] reporting is voluntary. So you and some cities report crimes differently. Sure. [24:15] » On that report than others do. So it's not always [24:18] » it's it's a better system to compare Desert Hot Springs to Desert Hot Springs [24:22] a year or two years or three years ago rather than to compare it city to city. [24:27] But if you ask me, I would say all the cities are doing a really good job. I [24:31] mean, the whole valley is, you know, I I've been to some other [24:36] places and lately and it's Yeah. Yeah. It's a It's a It's a different world. [24:41] So, but I would say they're all doing a really good job, but [24:44] » you know, those numbers are better compared to the city itself. It's hard [24:47] to compare them city to another city. And I will say to kind of piggyback off [24:52] of what Linda was saying, so our community response team, which isn't [24:55] just um the police department, but it's also code enforcement as well as our um [25:00] social workers um group, they're out there working every day and they are if [25:05] anybody's driven around the city and again compared from one year to the next [25:09] or even 10 years ago, um the amount of um criminal activity just blatantly um [25:16] taking place on the streets is significantly reduced. And I can I can [25:20] say that from my own perspective of my own city. Um just in comparison, it's [25:24] night and day. And they're really out there, you know, um working for the for [25:30] the citizens, not just at Desert Hot Springs, just in general. Anybody coming [25:33] up to visit the spas or anybody going to do any shopping in any sort of area, I [25:37] mean, it's it is night and day. So, I will say that they're doing a heck of a [25:41] job out there. >> Yeah. Yeah. All right. Questions from [25:44] commission members? >> I do. No, just thank you for all your [25:48] hard work. >> You're very welcome and thank you for [25:50] your support. >> Okay, Donna. [25:52] » Yeah. What city are you from? >> I'd rather not say because I don't want [25:56] to throw anybody under the bus out there, but it's a it's a city outside [25:59] the Coachella Valley, not too far away. >> Okay. I was wondering [26:03] um I noticed that we're going to get 35 more officers. Am I right? Or [26:08] » it's not so the the total number um is going to be 45. That's been set. Oh. Um [26:13] yeah, that was set the other day at the city council meeting. Um and what Chief [26:17] Shaw has done u just through our recent um uh post audit through um you know [26:24] obviously through the state and everything they gave a number and it was [26:27] recently uh you know accepted by the city council and stuff to to add up to [26:31] 40 45 officers over the next several years and stuff. So basically an initial [26:35] two officers a year for the next for the next uh for the next 5 years. So we're [26:39] in the process of doing that right now. Do we have enough cars and equipment and [26:44] things? Do we >> We could always use more. [26:46] » Yeah, it's I was wondering. Yeah. >> So, I mean, from the perspective again, [26:51] uh we could always use more and just because like we and we'll and we'll [26:55] bring up vehicles for, you know, from what you just said is those are things [26:58] that we use every single day and we use them whether it's cold outside or 120° [27:03] outside, we're going through the desert, we're driving through the streets and [27:06] all that kind of stuff. And although our fleet services manager is does awesome [27:10] at his job, um when we're out there running and gunning every single day, um [27:14] those cars do take a lot of wear and tear and everything. So, we could always [27:18] use more vehicles. I will say that. >> So, we don't use motorcycles anymore or [27:24] is there any like in the winter it would be easier for them to ride around? [27:30] » So, as of right now, as far as like a like a a dedicated motor officer, we [27:35] don't have anybody. We do have three motorcycles that are up and running. The [27:39] only uh certified law enforcement motor officer that we do have is Chief Shaw. [27:44] So, and I don't think Chief Shaw wants to go out in 120 degrees and write [27:47] tickets. However, not that he wouldn't though, but one of the things that [27:51] » I thought he would. >> I'm sure uh one of the things that uh [27:54] that he has said is he does want to staff that motor officer position. um he [27:59] hasn't given a number but I know that uh like the number that I've had in my mind [28:04] um just from my perspective is and as the patrol lieutenant and also as [28:10] someone who supervised the um traffic unit before in the past is two one for [28:14] the front half of the week and one for the back end of the week. So that is [28:17] something that we do want to that we do want to fill sooner rather than later. [28:22] » Thank you. I think since I've been here, I always say since 6 1962, [28:28] there's been a lot of improvement, you know, and when my son was murdered, I [28:33] think there were only like 10 cops or something or another. So, and I still [28:38] thank Rod Pacheco for doing all that he did with the crime sweeps and stuff like [28:44] that. And everything started rolling after that. But I'm very proud of what [28:50] we have now in Desert Hot Springs. I could tell people I live in Desert Hot [28:54] Springs and they say, "Oh." >> All right. [29:00] » Thank you very much. >> You're very welcome. [29:02] » Do you have anything? >> Uh, just quick with the increase in in [29:04] staffing. Is that because we need to just add more people on staff during [29:08] every shift or is that just to cover like schedules and things like that? [29:12] » It's going to be a combination of the two. ultimately ultimately there is a uh [29:16] like an algorithm of some sort that post uses in order to ga gather um you know [29:20] hey this department needs this amount of people and stuff so I can't I can't [29:24] speak exactly to what that looks like however I will say that it's a [29:27] combination of staffing patrol which is the most important thing to get out [29:30] there make sure that we have enough people um working patrol uh to go out [29:35] there respond to calls for service and also um conduct selfinitiated activity [29:39] but it's also to make sure that we can staff additional uh additional teams [29:45] like motor officers, different task force, um the CRT team, the detective [29:50] bureau. Also, with the increase in staffing, uh it allows the officers to [29:55] grow so that way they're not just running from one call to the next. They [29:58] can take their investigations further so that way they can take that step further [30:00] into an investigative role later on. Um and you know, as far as monetarily, it [30:05] does cut down in overtime, uh mandated overtime and stuff because obviously if [30:08] there we don't have enough people, then someone has to get ordered into work and [30:11] that comes at a higher cost and everything. So, it is a combination of [30:14] things. >> Thank you, [30:16] » Charles. >> No, I'm good. [30:17] » No, you're good. Uh, you know, I'm I'm going to tell you that we've had the [30:21] last two months off and I was sitting over the last two months and I'm like, [30:24] we need a goal for this year and I'm like, my goal, we've staffed up the fire [30:29] department, we've staffed up animal control, we've staffed up code [30:32] enforcement, right? You know, we've done all these great things. We haven't [30:36] really talked about the police department. And I know we talked about [30:38] it like in 2022 when I was still on the commission and uh I said, you know what, [30:44] it's let's let's bring that I was going to throw that out tonight and say that's [30:48] we need to talk about staffing the police department and [30:52] » you know, you know, the city staff and the city council have have stolen my [30:57] thunder, but for the best of reasons and they did an awesome job and I love the [31:01] idea of phasing in over five years. It helps make the cost uh the city adjust [31:06] to the cost easier. Uh sorely needed. A proactive department does better than a [31:11] reactive department. Absolutely. >> And I I couldn't be more proud of the [31:14] city staff and and the city council for doing it before we even had a chance to [31:19] look at it. >> And I'm not saying anything negative [31:22] about the us not getting to look at it. It's just it's great that we don't have [31:25] to look at it because it's already been handled, which is a terrific thing to [31:29] have happen. So, so now I'm going to go home and [31:34] think of something else. Unless somebody wants to tell me what our project should [31:38] be. I would love to hear some ideas on projects like anything from animal [31:41] control to code enforcement to the fire department. If they've got something [31:45] they want us to look at or if there's some issue that, you know, maybe we need [31:49] to beat up a little bit, you know, especially when it comes to money. I [31:52] mean, you know, that's that's our primary thing is look at budgets. But, [31:56] but uh but yeah, I'm really happy that they did that for you. Uh, you know, we [32:01] had talked about it and 1986 when I started here, there were two two [32:05] officers per shift. We had 18 people total, [32:07] » including the chief. We had four cars. >> So when your people are all complaining, [32:11] they don't have enough cars, you just tell them, "Come see me." We had [32:14] » four cars and two of them only worked half the time. So So they literally [32:19] drove 24/7. They you would literally your partner would pull up who you were [32:23] leaving and they would take your stuff out. They wouldn't even turn it off. So [32:26] it's it's really great to see you guys advancing. Uh it's uh like I said, every [32:31] time I've seen the the troops out there, they're doing a great job. And uh I know [32:35] we're looking at the College of the Desert to try to help you guys out and [32:39] support your support your uh staffing and stuff like that in a, you know, more [32:43] effective way. So uh I think you guys are doing a great I'm not just saying [32:48] that because I'm up here. It's when I got nothing to talk about, that means [32:51] you're doing pretty good. So So So thank you. Thank you. [32:54] » I just have one more thing. >> Please, Donna. I just want to say in [32:57] partnership with everything is our 911 staff is they do a phenomenal job as [33:04] well and I just want to give them a plug of all working together. I mean you call [33:09] them and they're right there. They're right on it and saved my life five years [33:14] ago. So I think they're great. So >> I'll make sure I get that information [33:18] over to them. But yeah, they do an excellent job and uh the ladies the the [33:21] men the men and women that work there are are are definitely topn to say the [33:25] least. And it's great having them in house now as opposed to, you know, [33:28] several years ago we were using Cathedral City and stuff. And although [33:31] those ladies and gentlemen did a great job over there, it's nice to have it in [33:34] house. You get to put a face with the voice and everything like that and [33:37] becomes more of a team effort. So >> very good. Thank you. I appreciate that [33:41] you do that. >> Thank you. [33:42] » Thank you. >> All right. And that's going to take us [33:45] to commissioner reports. I know somebody has to go watch a football game. [33:50] » What's the score? Go >> first then. So M is going to go first. [33:55] And we're losing. So >> Oh, they're playing tonight. [33:58] » Yes. >> So, I just wanted to invite everybody to [34:01] the uh Hispanic Heritage Festival that the Glube de Muer Latinas is having on [34:08] October 3rd from 12 to 7:00 p.m. And it's going to be at the Living Word in [34:14] the Desert Church on West. So, so if anybody you guys are invited to show up, [34:22] okay, to support Thank you. [34:25] » All right, Charles. [34:29] » Yeah, just a couple things. I see a little flyer here for the pet adoption [34:32] event on Thursday, September 24th. So, just going to make sure that gets out [34:37] there for anybody who may be watching live stream to come and get yourself a a [34:41] good quality animal. They do know they've been given a second chance and [34:45] they appreciate it. Uh secondly, I I did attend the city council meeting last [34:50] week and I think we benefit a lot from this committee because everybody that [34:55] sits up here on the board has been a resident of Desert Hot Springs for quite [34:58] a while. Uh and we've we know what it used to be and we've seen what it's [35:02] become. And so when people in the city like this gentleman here wants to know [35:08] where we stand with the crime rate and we can go back oh had you been here 10 [35:13] years ago or 15 years ago it was it was a bad no to go to Stater Brothers after [35:18] dark. Uh now you can go anywhere in the city after dark and feel safe. I mean [35:23] there are still always going to be areas in any city to where after hours is off [35:28] limits. Uh, but it's an honor and a privilege not only to represent this [35:32] city up here on the board, but also with these gentlemen and the police [35:36] department, code enforcement, everybody else of just seeing where this city has [35:40] gone and where it's going to go in the future. So, hats off to all of you. [35:44] » Thank you, Charles. And I appreciate you not saying comparing it to 1986 when I [35:49] was here cuz that was a long time ago. >> I graduated in ' 86, so you were [35:54] probably one of those guys I didn't care for. [36:00] See any all of us can change >> anything. Thank you guys for everything. [36:05] Thank you. >> Okay, [36:07] » Donna. >> I just want to say thank you for [36:09] everything as well. And I when I talk about how long I've been here, I I was [36:14] just envisioning my grandmother um who's gone um driving in her little what do [36:21] you call it? A golf cart on Palm Drive. And she thought she was so cool. And [36:26] there were no lights. There were there weren't even barely any stop signs, but [36:30] it was a a wonderful time then. So, but then things changed and they've changed [36:36] bad. They now they're very good and I appreciate everything that everyone [36:40] does. Thank you. >> You want to go? Yeah. Go ahead, Mara. [36:45] » I just wanted to welcome you guys and thank you for your reports. [36:48] » Yeah, >> perfectly said. So, hey, um my final [36:52] thing is is once again if somebody has an idea for a goal for the commission [36:57] this year, I'd love to hear it and put it out to the rest of the commission and [37:00] see if uh that's something we want to we want to track down and work on or [37:04] something. I I would love to do it. We we've had we've done that in the past [37:08] and we've come up with some really great things like a new animal control [37:10] department one year. Uh there's a whole big fire truck up on the east end of the [37:16] city now that kind of evolved out of one of those projects and things. there's a [37:20] paramedic unit that evolved out of that project, those kind of projects. So, uh, [37:24] it doesn't mean that if we take on a project, something's going to happen [37:27] because of it. It just means we do some kind of leg work or we do some [37:31] examination and we provide the city council and city staff with some ideas [37:35] or some concepts or some plans or, you know, if you uh there's nothing worse [37:40] than having some extra funding pop up all of a sudden and nothing to spend it [37:44] on, right? That's that's a benefit. So, so it's kind of good to help put those [37:49] ideas and those files into the hands and pockets of the people who make the [37:53] actual decisions and give them options. So, um I would love to hear something [37:57] because like I said, mine got stolen away from me for all the right reasons. [38:01] So, secondly, I I just wanted to say uh uh we had a pretty good fire over there [38:06] at Iron What is it? What's is it Sil Country Country Village Apartments or [38:10] whatever? Country Hills. >> Country Hills Apartments. Yes. [38:13] » Yeah. And uh you know I was my wife sent me to the store for something. Of course [38:16] I got in the middle of 50 fire trucks and everybody driving crazy but it was [38:21] uh uh you know we don't we didn't get to talk about the fire department today but [38:25] it was really heartening to see the incredible response of Cal Fire to uh [38:30] that episode. Uh you know when you're when you're driving along and you see [38:34] the the I don't know how big that ladder truck is that comes out of Palm Desert. [38:38] I think it's ladder 33 coming out and coming into coming into our town. You [38:43] know, that's uh you know, you're you've got something bad going on. But they had [38:47] that thing knocked down pretty darn quick and they did a great job. I'm sure [38:50] your people were there, Lieutenant, you know, protecting the hose is what we [38:55] always called it. Uh yeah, don't run over those hoses, man. I guess that's [38:59] like a that's bad. So that's bad. No, no. So, but I just wanted to say the [39:03] fire department did a great job. I They had a very busy day because they had [39:06] that fire. I think they had a second fire that day and then you had a major I [39:11] think you had a major TC out at 62 in Pearson. We were watching you all night [39:15] driving all over the place all crazy from our backyard. So, but uh very busy [39:19] day but very hot day, a difficult day, but it seemed like you guys all handled [39:24] it. So, the I just wanted to give a shout out to the fire department because [39:27] because they they need a little love too. So, [39:30] » anything else for the good of the order? >> Just good to see Gerald again. Thank [39:36] you. So sweet and quiet all the time. [39:40] » Yes. Thank goodness for Gerald. >> Yeah. Amen. [39:43] » All right. Well, if there's nothing else, um we'll go ahead and adjourn the [39:47] meeting for tonight. We'll see you all next month. Thank you everybody. [39:49] » Thank you. >> Have a good night.