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[0:00] Or the internal operation standing committee meeting on today Wednesday, July 23, Mr. Clerk,
[0:11] please call the
[0:17] Thank you, we are now in session.
[0:24] Colleagues is there in motion on the minutes.
[0:28] There's a motion to approve the minutes.
[0:31] Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[0:36] We are going to move into public comment.
[0:42] If you are joining us in person or virtually and would like to make a public
[0:46] please raise your hand. Please raise your hand. Public comment will be cut off
[0:54] shortly.
[0:57] If you're joining us in person or virtually please raise your hand.
[1:01] We're going to give everyone five seconds and five, four, three, two, one. The
[1:13] collection of public comments have now concluded see and no one here in the committee of the
[1:20] whole with their hand raised. Good morning Aaron how many hands do we have raised virtually.
[1:27] Good morning Madam Chair there are 10 people calling in for public comment. All right let's give
[1:32] everyone two minutes and once the clock is on the screen we'll get started with the first caller.
[1:39] The
[1:46] first caller is William I'm David William M. Davis. You have two minutes for general public comment.
[1:53] Good morning. Can I be heard? Good morning. Yes.
[1:57] I like to start off about two comment as we like to the interviews.
[2:01] You know, I believe the Josh Mac will make an excellent candidate and an excellent member for the board at ethics.
[2:09] I've known him for years from school board days, and I hope that he's advanced, also as
[2:18] relates to Robert Jones and may all point me for the board of police commissioners.
[2:23] You know, I think right now, as you may have made that noise to be elected board of police
[2:28] commission for District 7, and during the time I was on, I never missed a meeting.
[2:32] In fact, I still haven't missed a meeting since before and since I have to.
[2:37] One of the main problems at the board of police commissioners now is that frequently, they don't have a quote.
[2:43] We have people that sign up or run, or, you know, as to be appointed and don't show up.
[2:48] Hopefully this new gentleman will show up because how could you have a board of police commission meetings?
[2:57] And you have members commissioners that don't show up for always late.
[3:02] Also, I hope that we start doing better as we listen to internal operations, because far too often we still see too many lawsuits and sentiments for people.
[3:18] You know, because I think that people are, you know, make an honest mistake, that's one thing
[3:23] to represent them.
[3:24] But the people are clearly violating policy and procedures in the law and ethic.
[3:30] They should not be comforted by the state of Detroit.
[3:33] I think we could do a better job.
[3:35] I think the city needs to reduce the amount of lawsuits that's going on in the city needs
[3:41] to do more to save more because the city should be doing more to help the state of Detroit retirees
[3:47] because this whole massive recovery has been on our backs
[3:50] and still on our backs,
[3:51] because we still haven't been really clawed back
[3:53] where they take money out of our checks every month,
[3:58] which is criminal for this fake bankruptcy.
[4:02] Thank you.
[4:04] Thank you.
[4:06] The next caller.
[4:09] The next caller is not that Karen.
[4:11] Not that Karen, you have two minutes
[4:13] for General Public comment.
[4:15] Noah.
[4:16] Good morning.
[4:17] Good morning.
[4:19] Yeah, I agree with everything Mr. Davis said, especially relative to the Detroit legacy retirees.
[4:27] I know you guys just took a hearing, but we just took a look at it even more than we get sick of hearing it.
[4:33] You know, because every month when we get our pens and checks, you know, there's been a club that money coming out.
[4:41] And I put the city doing so well, and we can brag about that.
[4:45] I don't know why we can't restore the pensions.
[4:50] Now, there was a fact that the resolution passed yesterday,
[4:54] approved yesterday, but it doesn't do anything.
[4:57] It resolves to let us get in line first to put us to help
[5:00] report anybody else.
[5:02] We've already been put in the forefront.
[5:04] We've been put to the forefront everybody when they took our money.
[5:07] So we don't want to get in line again
[5:09] to be first at nothing, or to be first at being lessen.
[5:14] We want our money back, we want what the bankruptcy settlement stated.
[5:20] The settlement stated that we should be restored and that was to start in 2018.
[5:26] 2018's coming gone over again and yet we have nothing but a revolution that promises to put our
[5:33] and the grandkids and the life of employment.
[5:38] We've already served.
[5:40] You know, that's looks like, you know,
[5:41] during slavery when they took from you what, you know,
[5:45] you could, you worked, but you didn't get paid.
[5:47] So that's like into me, that's like into that situation.
[5:51] We've worked, and now you're saying we can't have
[5:54] the money that we've earned.
[5:55] That's ludicrous, it's unreal, and it's evil.
[5:59] So hopefully when you guys retire,
[6:01] don't have all this straightened out and they won't come and take what you, you know, say,
[6:05] well, we made a mistake, we gave you too much money and come and take money back from you,
[6:10] because you won't have a chance to make it right no more than we have. I appreciate the functionality,
[6:15] thank you for the two minutes. Have a good day. Thank you, you as well. The next caller,
[6:25] the next caller is to hear out a mind. So here at a mind, you have two minutes for general public
[6:35] Thank you. Good morning council members. I agree with not that Karen and I also agree with Mr Davis. It's a consumable that you would take the right retirees money. Never give it back to them.
[6:49] to see a brag about how good the city is doing and you got that kind of reputation off the
[6:57] backs of people who were lied to and their contracts were breached. I think that need to be paid
[7:04] back as awful and it's embarrassing that it's still the bankruptcy was fake and you used that
[7:10] to steal the people's money. That's a terrible thing. Also, I would like to know with the ethics
[7:18] committee.
[7:20] I cannot, I cannot file ethics complete.
[7:23] I was told in a public meeting,
[7:27] Mr. Coleman, you know,
[7:30] walked up to me and said,
[7:32] the reason why I haven't helped you get home repairs
[7:35] and because of what you said in public comment,
[7:39] that's a violation of my civil rights
[7:43] and human rights and my freedom of speech.
[7:45] And I want to make it complain about that.
[7:47] I'm not gonna let it go.
[7:49] I'm not gonna forget about it.
[7:51] It was wrong and it's not gonna stop me
[7:53] because I'm tors the bull.
[7:56] I'm you know, bully bull, you can bully me.
[7:58] But other people, if you've done that to me,
[8:01] who else have you done that to?
[8:03] And then he turned around and said,
[8:04] that was said in confidence.
[8:06] So you know he said it.
[8:08] You need to turn around and say it.
[8:10] I helped you.
[8:11] Oh, you got a home repair and came out of my office,
[8:14] but you wasn't in office when I got those home repair.
[8:17] So I think I'm out your office, you're a liar.
[8:20] He's lying, it's a quid pro quo for these home repairs, I bet put on several lists.
[8:26] Now just one, and we need to, I want an investigation on this home repair.
[8:32] This whole fiasco, because it's a quid pro quo, whoa, that's what Mr. Young was saying.
[8:37] So I'd like to know more information about it.
[8:41] Thank you.
[8:42] And if you'd like to follow a complaint with the Board of Ethics, you can do so on the city's
[8:47] website under the Board of Ethics. I'm sure if you reached out to your council person, they could direct you as well.
[8:56] The next caller.
[8:58] The next caller is iPhone.
[9:02] iPhone, you have two minutes for general public comment.
[9:05] The morning, Madam Chair, and to all within the sound of my voice and of the Honerville
[9:15] Council members.
[9:17] The D.A. Brown, a President of the SOTA, is where Black Association is going to start
[9:22] out.
[9:23] That's just by saying we're still accepting and asking for donations for our landscaping
[9:30] voters for our D.A. community park.
[9:33] I want to also share a blessing and found that there's an organization Franklin Wright settlement.
[9:42] They have a senior chore services program for seniors ages 60 plus.
[9:49] called 313-579-1000. Extention 301. Again, 313-579-1000. Extention 301. Some of the things that they do is they replace
[10:10] and right bulbs, they replace door locks and window catches, they replace faucet washers,
[10:19] installs, green doors, stone windows, and weather strippings around doors, they do window
[10:25] caulking, cleaning appliances, and starting window shades and curtain rides, they wash walls, windows,
[10:34] They scrub floors, season old, they cut grass and rake leaves, season old, they remove ice from your property and snow, they do carpet cleaning and trimming of overhanging tree branches.
[10:51] So, somebody thinks I sound simple, but when you become disabled or single like I am, this is precious.
[11:02] Also, I'll be sending out a flyer in regards to our rights Detroit event. Please share everything.
[11:10] Thank you. The next caller.
[11:15] The next caller is we see you.
[11:17] We see you. You have two minutes for general public comment.
[11:32] We see you.
[11:34] Good morning.
[11:35] Good morning through the chair.
[11:35] May I be hurt?
[11:36] Good morning.
[11:37] Yes.
[11:38] I agree with Mr. Davis and not that Karen and Mr. Hera.
[11:44] This is ridiculous to the retirees, especially the legacy retirees.
[11:51] The bankruptcy was on their backs.
[11:54] You could have spent $75 million to get them from under this, but you want to give them
[12:00] sentence while you give away millions of dollars and lawsuits with the police department and
[12:09] misdeeds that occurred even during the while the mayor was prosecutor who should actually
[12:17] have gone to jail. On your agenda as every week, you have legal representations and endimifications.
[12:26] You listen to Mr. Betis yesterday tell you that the only reason why he wants you to pass
[12:30] this ordinances to charge people more money, not to address the issue that we're having
[12:37] with the violence.
[12:37] And this is not all children.
[12:39] It's a violent all over the city, even though when you want to pass certain things, you
[12:44] talk about how low the crime rate is.
[12:46] And when you want to do other things, you talk about how high the crime rate is.
[12:50] It's almost, it's teetering on the ridiculous, when you listen to what you guys are saying.
[12:56] And what you guys are doing, like millions of dollars lawsuits, and now you have a $30 million contract.
[13:07] I have no idea what you guys are thinking that you're doing.
[13:11] And every time I look at your agenda, you've got the HR department,
[13:16] bringing on more people with ridiculous pay raises or pay scale.
[13:21] You guys are running the city into back into bankruptcy with your policies and what you are doing.
[13:27] The police department does not need, they already have a curfew.
[13:32] And if you read the message it says for violent crime, how is a curfew of violent crime? Thank you.
[13:43] Thank you. The next caller.
[13:47] The next caller is Miko A Williams.
[13:50] Miko A Williams, you have two minutes for general public comment.
[13:57] Hi, good morning, can I be heard, please?
[13:59] Good morning, yes.
[14:00] Good morning, good morning, everyone.
[14:02] Yes, I want to share love to my council watchers.
[14:06] Not that Karen, we see you, Joanne, Warwick, Bill Davis, Betty A.
[14:12] Hey, why can't you talk get the GSD to go over there and put bike racks or landscape boulders for her over at that park so she could have her community of eight
[14:23] I don't see the clock. I don't know where we are, but I just want to share a love with everyone
[14:29] That is listening under the side of my voice. You know our city is broken. It is broken from
[14:36] 15 years of
[14:41] catastrophic, doom, and failure, and misblack leadership. And when I tell you that people are broken,
[14:48] you can hear it in their voices that you see it when we come down here every day and week.
[14:52] It's a problem. We all need to come together and love on our neighbors.
[14:57] Love on our city, please.
[15:00] We are dealing with too many bad breaks. They came pay the water bill, BTE, people going hungry, people
[15:07] ain't got enough food in a house. The kids, it is out of control. There's dysfunction all over
[15:14] city government. The dug in administration is one of the most horribly brand administrations
[15:19] that's Lewis Mariani and Roman Gribbs. Also, I want to say that, you know, as we look at the future
[15:29] of our elections. Ladies and gentlemen, you must vote. You must vote. Instead of the voter fraud
[15:35] deniers coming up here, why aren't they out in the streets? If you really the cold,
[15:40] issue would have got people to vote. And you would have got people to turn out at high numbers
[15:44] for this election. Show improved instead of talking. And last but not least, I just want to share
[15:51] loved all my council watchers, my neighbors. And I love the city of Detroit. I ain't going
[15:56] know them where I'm going to continue to fight, but I'll do it from behind.
[16:02] Thank you. The next caller.
[16:06] The next caller is Mr. Over with.
[16:09] Mr. Over with, you have two minutes for general public comment.
[16:22] Mr. Over with.
[16:25] Are you there?
[16:31] Aaron, let's come back to Mr. Over with.
[16:40] Okay, the next caller is Galaxie Aston.
[16:43] Galaxie Aston, you have two minutes for general public comment.
[16:48] Good morning, Councilwoman Johnson, I want you this morning.
[16:52] Good morning, doing well in yourself.
[16:55] I'm hanging in there. First of all, I'm going to mention about yesterday when I was on a public comment on the phone.
[17:05] I was on there before they even did the prayers so that it wasn't a public comment was not cut off.
[17:13] So I'm going to have to file a charge against somebody that's not doing their job because it's the second time that's happened to me. What is it? I got to come down there on the time and person.
[17:25] If I have to, I would do that, but I should be able to call it talking on zoom.
[17:30] Number two.
[17:32] I also would like to have none of the branches up to the city council about the water department, the WSD Gary Brown.
[17:41] When I had my flood in 2016, all of a sudden, like I said, you know, other people have floods,
[17:47] Southwest Detroit, I feel that's a discrimination, maybe I can check with civil rights and
[17:52] feel like I found a charge against that, because I mean, when I had my flood with Council
[17:57] President, former Council President Brenda Johnson in there, her and she said her office
[18:03] And then the Wesley, and they took care of my flood being taken out of my house, but
[18:10] where they offered me was $604. And now I'm not a crackhead. I'm not sick of this.
[18:16] Yes, $600 or $200. Like I told, how does all this time is jumping pretty fast?
[18:22] Hi, I'm not a crackhead and I don't do drugs. Didn't it offer me a check with $3600? No.
[18:28] You'd get Southwest. You put them in the hotels. You did the houses. I froze for two years.
[18:36] Councilwoman. My kids didn't come visit me. My great great kids didn't come visit me.
[18:41] I had no hot water. My pipes busted. I need to be made whole from that flood.
[18:48] I'm speaking out.
[18:53] All right. Thank you for calling in.
[18:56] And before we go to the next caller, I like to call the 1015 interview to order.
[19:00] And we says it to the call of the chair and who's our next caller our next caller is phone number ending in two seven zero caller ending in two seven zero.
[19:12] You have two minutes for general public comment.
[19:16] You know, it's a great shelter.
[19:19] You try as the poorest city in the United States,
[19:30] the poorest city in the United States.
[19:36] Yet we've been faced the criminal over assessment of more income homes.
[19:46] It's theft of over 600 million dollars.
[19:49] We have property taxes, the unlawful issuance, the end of dollars, the municipal bonds
[19:59] without providing the residents with their right, public meeting, public notice, and right
[20:07] to refer into on those bonds.
[20:10] The issuance of multiple UTGO bonds were not, while not going before the current voters
[20:18] and taxpayers where they are approved,
[20:26] spending taxing capital improvement,
[20:29] bond funds, on projects and purposes that I short-term,
[20:37] and should only be spent on long-term capital improvements
[20:42] and infrastructure projects.
[20:46] We almost totally collect of the city's areas
[20:49] which are outside of downtown mid-town and a few select neighborhoods,
[20:57] and the flagrant violation of the Michigan Constitution, Article 7, Section 26, by using public tax dollars, it's public credit to spend on private, corporate, large business interests.
[21:20] Thank you. The next caller.
[21:26] The next caller is Galaxy S22 Ultra. Galaxy S22 Ultra. You have two minutes for general public comment.
[21:35] Good morning. Did you hear me? Good morning. Yes.
[21:39] Okay. Yesterday was a heck of a meeting. The brothers brought it out on a lot of the council person. One of the things I didn't get right get the right across was.
[21:52] I had a note saying Janice Wimpy should not not be allowed on election day to come any votes
[21:59] and be around any vote to influence people on on on things.
[22:05] She needs to be really needed to be gone and everybody knows that.
[22:10] And the second thing, all general funds will be tax dollars going forward because we don't
[22:18] no money. We didn't give out everything and we're not bringing money in. So they'll be using
[22:23] tax dollars to pay for things. They need to check that out. All of them that run for the mayor
[22:32] need to check that. Check that out. We need to take back all our resource starting with water department,
[22:39] like the parliament government or the parliament owned down.
[22:44] And the next mayor go catch hell, the next budget season,
[22:49] because it's been all messed up.
[22:53] And get rid of land bank.
[22:55] We need to get rid of land bank.
[22:56] I don't understand why nobody understands that.
[22:58] Land bank need to go.
[23:00] So that need to be our money.
[23:02] We didn't outsource everything, gave the money to everybody else.
[23:05] But I said, and we're testing hell trying to get contracts.
[23:08] in our own city. It was spoken yesterday. Life broke catch and hell trying to get contract.
[23:15] They didn't have an African festival. Nobody gave me information while I can get down there.
[23:22] But if I keep telling me we're working on it. When you wasn't on what? The world has come
[23:27] to end by time we get stuff for platforms in the city of Detroit. You know, it's sad. I'm not
[23:33] I don't think there's other, but give us something.
[23:37] We bear, almost seven years.
[23:44] Thank you.
[23:45] And Mr. Halloway, I believe you have the vendor application
[23:48] for vending downtown, but let me know if you do not.
[23:54] All right, the next caller, or before we go to the next caller,
[23:57] I'd like to call the 10 25 interview to order
[24:00] and recess it to the call of the chair.
[24:03] And who's the next caller?
[24:06] The last caller before we return to Mr. Overwith is you matter.
[24:11] You matter, you have two minutes for general public comment.
[24:19] Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking my call.
[24:24] I have a concern about people serving on multiple boards.
[24:29] Like I don't think district five community advisory council member should or district four should be on the board of zoning appeals.
[24:38] I think that's an inherent conflict of interest and got a problem with the Detroit wing building
[24:51] authority because how is it that when I got Billy Sam to the ground by the police officers
[24:57] and they tried to tell me that the camera right above where the cop was harassing me didn't work.
[25:03] Yeah, right. No proof was shown of that so you all elected officials and judges should be
[25:08] concern is that a trait when joint building authority isn't making sure that all their
[25:12] cameras work. Of course I didn't believe them and I didn't believe the cops when they
[25:17] said or the prosecutor when she said they didn't have the cops video after I was there
[25:21] for 40 minutes going you got your video you got your video you got your video and then they
[25:25] didn't produce it. Also I think the f-export should have its own attorney net somebody from
[25:33] the law department that I really have serious problems with the law department, how they interfere
[25:38] with people's business and, oh, Joyce Moore for the Board of Ethics, so I would support
[25:45] her.
[25:45] But I do think, you need that, also, I've got a problem that the election department is
[25:51] lied about me and lied to me.
[25:53] Made up some lies about why they didn't hire me, why are they lies?
[25:56] Because they like meaningful detail would be void for vagueness in a court of law and then
[26:01] told me they were full, when they weren't, and I told somebody else up and he called and
[26:05] they scheduled him to train the word for the election.
[26:08] So I got proof that they're, they lied to people, and they lied about people.
[26:13] And it's most sad that Mary's shaft feels, I'm the election commission won't help.
[26:16] Maybe I can get kind of mad mouth, who's on the election commission to do something about it.
[26:24] Thank you.
[26:26] And the last caller, Mr. Over with, you have two minutes for general public comment.
[26:35] Can you hear me clearly?
[26:38] Yes.
[26:40] The Tissi Johnson, you cheated in.
[26:44] You asked to take that off for a committed,
[26:48] you traded the carbon of elections.
[26:52] And, on we're seeing, on we're seeing,
[26:55] I've done this in one free Detroit City Court,
[26:58] and also chairperson of the Detroit election permission.
[27:02] Now, there's property in the city as being foreclosed there on by a county within a state where all three of them are being controlled and ran by the same individual.
[27:23] Now, that same individual Michael Edward Guggen has a corporation council, General Corporation
[27:32] Council for the city, Comrade Manager Junior, who also sits on the board of the Detroit
[27:40] election commission,
[27:45] all three of these entities, City of Detroit, County of Wayne State
[27:51] Michigan is being controlled by this individual.
[27:56] He put the governor in office at the state.
[28:02] Of course, the county, what in county?
[28:07] And then the city of Detroit, he's the mayor.
[28:11] Now, I come out and say things.
[28:15] I say them for a reason.
[28:17] I speak the truth.
[28:18] if anybody can say I'm last, I thought they say I'm last, but Michael Edward Guggen
[28:26] prompted or suggested to mention what learned to run for governor and let Daniel run for
[28:36] attorney general. Now we got what we got.
[28:41] All right thank you that now concludes our general
[28:45] public comment and we are going to move back to the agenda with our 10, 15 interview
[28:50] I'd like to call it back to the 1015 interview is for David Bonner for the Board of Ethics.
[28:59] Mr. Bonner, if you would please join us at the table here.
[29:04] And once you get situated, if you will touch the base of the microphone, the light will turn green,
[29:11] and please introduce yourself for the record.
[29:18] Good morning, Council women. My name is David Sheldon Bonner,
[29:21] And I have the honor to come and present myself for the ethics and I look forward to your questions and I prepare.
[29:39] All right, excellent. Well, thank you for that. And before we start asking questions, will you please provide us information about your background and how it lends itself to be in on the Board of Ethics?
[29:51] Well, I have a very disparate, disparate background, I have, I hold.
[30:00] To degrees, I have NBA with a concentration of finance and I also attained an undergraduate degree
[30:09] of the University Troy and County. Currently, for the past 10 years, I have had the privilege
[30:18] being an associate professor at Madonna University and I teach in school business. My professional
[30:26] background. I have over 25 years of professional service and banking and finance, where I have
[30:35] served at the pleasure of city group and other large financial service centers as a vice-president of finance and
[30:46] and probably combined, I think that that would pretty much flow into an ethics type of scenario.
[30:58] All right, thank you. And are you aware of the conflict of interest policy with the city
[31:06] that's part of the Board of Ethics just indicating that you don't have any dealings with the city of Detroit?
[31:13] Yes, the ethics ordinance calls for other aspects of conflicts of interest ranging from any entity or individual who perhaps represents the city and cannot have a dual role or purpose otherwise.
[31:37] Excellent. Thank you. I will turn the floor over to member Calaway.
[31:42] Yes, so for the record, Mr. Bonner's wife is on my team as my special projects manager.
[31:50] And she, of course, is an employee, not elected official, no matter will come before her,
[31:58] for a vote. And so there's no conflict there.
[32:03] I'm just happy that you are willing to be interviewed this morning for this very, very important position.
[32:08] I've had interaction with the Board at theX and I know that it deserves some changes and some additions to the Board.
[32:22] And so I don't have any questions for you. Your background is stellar.
[32:25] your education is just as stellar and your experience and we know that to work in banking and accounting requires
[32:37] understanding of confidentiality and ethics.
[32:42] You can't manipulate numbers.
[32:46] You can't fudge numbers because you can get the financial institution that you represent in a lot of trouble.
[32:53] you've not done any of that, and the five banking ethics I'm looking at is ethical investment,
[33:01] impact investment, socially responsible investment, and corporate social responsibilities,
[33:07] and you are very much aware of those five banking ethics, because you've been involved
[33:14] in that industry for many years, and I know for a fact that you'll bring that knowledge
[33:19] and that expertise and that understanding of ethics and confidentiality to the board.
[33:26] If you are selected, so I want to personally thank you for being willing to be interviewed
[33:32] and we're grateful for your willingness.
[33:36] And so, I don't have any questions, but thank you so much, Mr. Bonner.
[33:39] You're welcome.
[33:41] All right, colleagues, before we proceed with any additional questions, I'd like to call the 1035 interview
[33:47] to order and recess it to the call of the chair. Any additional questions, comments?
[33:56] All right. Seeing none. Mr. Bonner, is there anything additional that you'd like to
[34:02] leave with us before we conclude the interview?
[34:06] Well, I'm having things constructive to say other than I welcome the opportunity and I look forward
[34:15] to being able to serve the city of Detroit and its great constituents and to be able to
[34:23] lend my expertise, my background, my experiences, both anecdotal and otherwise.
[34:32] And I believe that I haven't said that again, the city of Detroit and its citizenry.
[34:40] We do expect and we should enjoy top quality individuals who serve at the behest of the city and its people.
[34:54] All right, excellent. Thank you so much for that. Again, thank you for your interest and a person who's focused,
[35:00] who's spent a career on finance has a special place in my heart. I will say that.
[35:05] So certainly do appreciate you, the numbers are always important and I really believe that your experience and expertise can provide a lot of insight and information knowledge to people in the city of Detroit.
[35:21] I think we need it. We need your expertise and so appreciate your interest.
[35:26] welcome. Thank you. And if there is nothing further, we will close out the 10-15 interview.
[35:36] And just so that everyone knows we do have an additional board of ethics candidate that is coming up next.
[35:43] And that will conclude all of the
[35:48] interviews for the one board of ethics position. And we will proceed accordingly.
[35:55] All right, I'd now like to call back to order the 1025 interview, the 1025 interview
[36:02] is for Josh Mack for the Board of Ethics, and I believe he is joining us virtually.
[36:08] Erin, do you see Mr. Mack?
[36:13] I believe I see his daughter who is helping him get on Zoom and I've tried to promote them
[36:20] to a panelist.
[36:22] Okay.
[36:24] A few times.
[36:26] Mr. Mack and
[36:29] there we go.
[36:30] Okay.
[36:31] I was about to say please a set.
[36:34] The promotion to panelists and once you see yourself on the screen, please introduce yourself for the record.
[36:41] Good morning. Good morning.
[36:44] Good morning Mr. Mack.
[36:48] Thank you so much for joining us virtually.
[36:50] You've already gotten some shout out during public comment.
[36:55] But would like to give you an opportunity to share with us your background and how it
[37:00] lends itself to the board of ethics.
[37:04] Well, good morning, Pair 1.
[37:07] In terms of my background, get your patient.
[37:11] I have a bachelor's degree in education.
[37:16] I have a master's degree in education.
[37:19] in the side-cog your phone when you take your university,
[37:22] I've completed all the Massachusetts degree requirements
[37:25] for occupational therapy and with the University of Michigan
[37:32] in the doctorial program, and also participated in various
[37:41] especially training programs through Harvard University.
[37:46] It had to sort of summarize, is my education background, my work, and comment background includes
[37:57] serving as, when I first graduated from college, serving as a teacher and athletic
[38:05] director, head coach for football and basketball, also served as an assistant professor with
[38:12] up-group programming, Utah.
[38:15] I've served as an independent education specialist
[38:18] with the control of the school system,
[38:22] and state of Michigan, certainly some,
[38:27] the director of the entire Wayne County juvenile justice system,
[38:32] where I was responsible for providing
[38:34] rehabilitation service, but all of the youth in Wayne County,
[38:39] I've also served as a Director of the FI family independent agency of what I was responsible.
[38:49] And this is my last level of employment.
[38:52] When I retired, I was responsible.
[38:54] And I was a staff of 100 and can stay up.
[39:00] And that sort of summarizes my employment background.
[39:04] And in addition to serving as specialized training and training teachers, counselors and
[39:12] administrators, with the University of Michigan where I was responsible for serving
[39:18] six different states, providing various training programs for those staff.
[39:26] Yes, I summarized my vomit employment wise.
[39:33] I've also been engaged for the last 45 years.
[39:37] Extensive involvement varies.
[39:40] Community activities within the Supreme Court.
[39:44] All right, excellent.
[39:45] Thank you so much for that, Mr. Mack.
[39:47] I am going to turn the floor over to member waters.
[39:54] Good morning, Mr. Mack.
[39:55] Good morning.
[39:55] Yes, thank you so much for interviewing with us.
[40:02] I got to tell you, you know, you have so much experience
[40:06] that you bring to the table.
[40:09] And I've kind of observed you throughout the community
[40:14] and your passion and compassion for this city.
[40:20] and especially the community and it's youth, so I want to thank you for that.
[40:29] For you, what is your understanding the role of the Board of Ethics on Member?
[40:39] I've given a crystal review of the Board of Ethics, the information and the general understanding
[40:48] that the Board of Ethics is responsible for addressing complaints and providing an
[40:59] investigatory process for those complaints and resolving those complaints and the process
[41:07] one of the complaints is I've perceived it having serve as a member of the, of the
[41:16] Equipment State of Michigan, I've been very accurate in pop, dealing with human service
[41:22] initiative, multiplicity of human service initiative issues and I think the process of the
[41:34] providing services in the assessment of the complaint and in the process for those complaints,
[41:45] we should be predicated on integrity, ingestion, there is a fact-finding process to analyze the complaint,
[41:54] and familiar with the fair, and if we're able to base position.
[41:58] Okay.
[42:03] I think that might be all of my questions. We just one of the quick questions.
[42:12] Oftentimes, these committees and boards, and so forth, sometimes, had difficulty, you know, establishing a core.
[42:22] How has your attendance and participation been when you served on other boards or communities?
[42:32] I tried to, one of the concerns I had was that when I'm in poverty or something, I either have to give it to all my best and not participate, so I'm not so sure.
[42:44] I'm as time as we can be required. I'm still active in these and a lot of other communities.
[42:52] If I'm chosen to serve in that capacity, I would be honored to serve and I would also do my very best to be a very rural member of the Board of Ethics.
[43:05] All right. Thank you. Thank you.
[43:07] Thank you. Member Callaway. Good morning. Good morning, Mr. Mack.
[43:12] This is Councilmember Callaway. Good morning. Good morning, sir. I know about your community service and the community where you live and we appreciate your willingness to serve in this capacity. And thank you so much for all that you're doing in the community where you serve to keep it safe. Keep it organized keep a tight knit. And you have just done incredible things in the community that I'm personally aware of and your activism.
[43:42] with the different organizations that you support and are a member of. So thank you for all
[43:48] that you've done and also for your education background and your experience with the education
[43:56] process. Thank you so much Mr. Mack. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Mack is there any additional
[44:06] information you'd like to share with us?
[44:10] Well, this should, you know, I'm happy to have been a part of this process.
[44:14] And one of the reasons why I agreed to participate in this interview because of my
[44:19] hotter, it's been part of the interviewers, and I appreciate the services that you've
[44:24] written in this one last thing, and I've received a couple of major distinct honors
[44:31] One has been with my graduation from Naval Autism University in Florida.
[44:37] I was recently elected as one of the most distinct,
[44:41] alumni from that university in the last 50 years.
[44:46] I was elected another.
[44:48] Also, for those that may not be aware,
[44:51] I'm also impacted and impacted
[44:54] into the University of Michigan historical library,
[44:58] and you can look boo-hoo-man.
[45:06] Thank you so much for that, as the young people say, Google Me, huh? All right, well, we certainly appreciate all of your work and service in the community and for the community and definitely appreciate your interest here. We do have one position that is open on the Board of Ethics and we have, I believe, five candidates.
[45:30] So we will certainly follow up with you and let you know how things proceed as we move forward.
[45:37] But thank you so much for your interest.
[45:40] Thank you.
[45:40] Thank you all very much, too.
[45:43] Absolutely.
[45:43] Have a great day.
[45:45] All right, then now closes our 10 25 interview and colleagues before we proceed to the next interview.
[45:54] how about we address line items 5 and 6,
[46:03] recognizing that we have, oh, there are 6 people
[46:09] actually, that have been interviewed for the Board of Ethics position. And so without objection,
[46:18] I'd like to combine line items 5, 6, 8.1 and 8.2 along with 8
[46:36] .16 and 8.17
[46:45] and colleagues
[46:46] is there a motion to
[46:51] send these line items to form a with a request for a ballad that
[46:57] LPD draft a ballad for all six names?
[47:02] Discussion, discussion, remember what is so
[47:08] we don't have to send all these names to a ballad
[47:15] will we can deny some right here? Is that correct?
[47:20] LPD. I know the answer. Mr. King.
[47:29] Is that attorney killer LPD?
[47:31] Yeah, the items can only be sent with a recommendation to approve or deny.
[47:38] Oh. They can't be denied in the, in the, in the committee.
[47:43] They can't not be. No.
[47:45] I just check it.
[47:49] Wanted to be sure.
[47:53] Well, certainly can't recommend that all of them be approved when they go.
[47:59] So, remember what is in the past what we've done is just request the LPD draft a ballot for all of the individuals.
[48:06] And then if there is one person that we would like to elevate uplift or maybe more than one,
[48:14] We can do that.
[48:16] LPD, do you have suggestions, thoughts on how that happens?
[48:21] Madam Chair, Edward King, legislative policy division.
[48:25] Madam Chair, the motion is to move the names forward for consideration.
[48:32] Okay.
[48:34] For consideration.
[48:35] All right, that'll be the motion there.
[48:39] I move the names forward for consideration.
[48:42] And drafting of a ballot.
[48:44] There is a motion to move line items 5, 6, 8.1, 8.2, 8.16 and 8.17, 2 formal for consideration and
[48:58] drafting a ballot for the board of ethics position.
[49:04] Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[49:09] All right, thank you, colleagues.
[49:11] I'd now like to call back to order the 1035 interview.
[49:16] The 1035 interview is Mr. Robert Jones.
[49:20] Here for the Board of Police Commissioners and nominee of the Mayors.
[49:25] Mr. Jones, if you please join us at the table.
[49:30] Yes.
[49:38] And if you will, touch the base of the microphone.
[49:41] The light will turn green. Please introduce yourself for the record.
[49:43] Good morning.
[49:45] My name is Robert Preston Jones,
[49:50] lifelong resident of the city of Detroit.
[49:53] I have a rest of the day.
[49:55] We'll be 71 years.
[49:57] I celebrated a birthday on yesterday.
[50:01] Oh, thank you.
[50:02] Happy birthday.
[50:04] You celebrated a birthday along with my senior policy analyst.
[50:07] Okay.
[50:10] And Detroit is a city that I love.
[50:14] I was looking forward to serve.
[50:18] I have an undergraduate degree from Wayne State University in business.
[50:25] Just a little bit more about my background as a lifelong Detroit.
[50:28] I was born and raised on Detroit's East Side.
[50:31] Curts of a one-fisher.
[50:35] In 1971, I moved to the Northwest side with my parents.
[50:39] And like I said, Detroit's my home, I love it, and always look forward to giving back with service.
[50:48] All right, excellent. And I know you're background from a corporate standpoint.
[50:56] And you probably don't remember me from 20 some odd years ago when I worked at the convention bureau.
[51:01] But if you will, please share a little bit more about your professional background.
[51:08] Oh, absolutely.
[51:11] I was employed by AT&T. I was there for 47 and a half years. I retired
[51:19] in December of 2022 and when I retired I was the Director of External and Legislative Affairs
[51:27] is one of the corporate lobbyists there. It allowed me to interact with several of you including
[51:34] the Honorable Mary Waters, and like you said, the Honorable Latissa Johnson, I know you had,
[51:40] we had several community events and saw you there.
[51:45] So, in terms of my work history, 47 years, 47 and a half years at AT&T, great corporation,
[51:55] and I enjoyed being a part of the team there.
[51:58] Excellent.
[51:58] Thank you.
[51:59] And yes, thank you for the support on the east side that you were able to provide as a
[52:09] result of the position that you were in, and I know that you continue to serve on the board
[52:14] for J.E.I. and other organizations.
[52:18] Can you talk about the Board of Police Commission?
[52:22] This board is one that is very interesting what's happening in this season with the Board
[52:28] police commissioners, but talk about your tie, your connection to your affinity to perhaps
[52:35] public safety, and what you plan to bring to the board.
[52:39] Thank you very much.
[52:41] In terms of what I plan to bring to the board of police commission, first of all, it's
[52:49] not in my first time serving on boards and commissions, but I think what I bring along with
[52:57] willingness to serve is a willingness I've always been a listener before making any decisions
[53:05] and I pride myself on being a good listener and I think that's a practice that has served
[53:12] me well I think no I know that if I am appointed to the Board of Police Commission that will
[53:19] bring one of my strongest traits as being a listener for both the community and the Board
[53:26] police commission, and like I said for me, it's just about giving service back to the
[53:31] community. As a lifelong Detroit, I know at times past there's been, you know, some
[53:37] tension, tensions between the community and the police department, but as times have gone
[53:45] on, some of that are a lot of that have seemed to subside, I believe we've got a police
[53:50] department that is working well with the community, not saying that everything is perfect
[53:56] but they're working well and I think the openness of the police department in terms of that willingness
[54:04] works well for the city of Detroit and its residents and I believe one of the things that
[54:11] chief whites started where he would do what was at a mile walk in the communities I think that
[54:17] endeared you know the police department to the communities and I think the communities really
[54:22] respected that. So for me, you know, I look forward to not only being of service, but really
[54:28] hoping to be a conduit, a positive conduit between the community and the police department
[54:33] and the police department and the community.
[54:37] All right, thank you. I do have a couple more questions but I'm going to give my colleagues an
[54:40] opportunity. Member Waters.
[54:47] Oh, all right. Well, I don't know what kind of questions I really
[54:54] So Mr. Jones, it's good to see you.
[54:57] Just ma'am.
[54:59] I remember those days in Lansing, and I've got to tell you, I don't know anybody, AT&T in
[55:05] the morning.
[55:06] I mean, you know, having to work with you as a lobbyist and you always very straightforward
[55:13] with the information and so forth that helped us to make informed decisions, so I do appreciate
[55:20] that.
[55:20] Thank you.
[55:21] Yes, well, you know, you're a Detroit or so, so you know your hands are going to be full.
[55:28] Sure. I mean, even I don't mind that.
[55:30] Yeah, you know, you can, you can handle that. I would like to believe so.
[55:35] All right, I just want to make sure that you can it, I mean, because it is different. You probably
[55:41] hear sometimes, you know, City Council sometimes, you know, and people call in and so forth
[55:50] and their concerns and their passions and all those things.
[55:54] And I know that you're going to have the same thing
[55:57] on that police commission.
[55:58] I just want to make sure that you're ready for it.
[56:02] But sounds like you are.
[56:03] I'm looking forward to it.
[56:05] All right, then.
[56:05] Thank you, Madam Chair.
[56:07] Thank you.
[56:08] Member Calaway.
[56:09] Good morning.
[56:10] Good morning.
[56:11] And I'm so pleasure to meet you.
[56:12] And thank you for your willingness to serve.
[56:14] I have one question that comes up a lot.
[56:17] They came up this morning regarding not having a quarrel during the police commission meetings and can't conduct business without a quarrel.
[56:27] This is true, yes.
[56:28] So I've been to some of the meetings and sometimes they can go quite long several hours, sometimes after nine o'clock.
[56:43] And, and sometimes the year be a genus or a chalkful because of mismedings before, for lack of a core.
[56:51] So what would be your commitment to attending, and attending regularly?
[56:58] And we hear quite often, like this morning, Mr. Davis, he's been going to meetings,
[57:03] he said he doesn't miss, and when I go, he's there.
[57:06] So it's just not a core and sometimes a little sometimes a little unprofessional, unprofessionally run.
[57:19] So what would be your commitment to attaining the meetings and making sure that there's some type of professional decorum from your colleagues?
[57:31] Well, first let me talk about myself in terms of commitment.
[57:34] Once I'm committed to something, to serve, I'm committed.
[57:40] So the meeting is on this day, this time I'm going to be there.
[57:45] I used to tell people being early is on time and being on time can be considered to be
[57:53] late.
[57:54] So I am committed, if I'm selected to be on the Board of Police and my commitment to
[58:00] I will be there for the meetings, no matter what the length of time is, I was appointed
[58:07] to serve, and that's what I'll be doing.
[58:15] And then with respect to the professional decorum of the commission, on the board, rather.
[58:22] You know, whenever the community and the police department,
[58:31] there's always got to be, especially
[58:32] with the community.
[58:33] There's got to be a level of respect.
[58:35] Whether you agree or disagree, it's about respect.
[58:41] And that goes a long way.
[58:43] I am a person that gives respect.
[58:46] I don't believe in disrespecting anyone publicly or behind the scenes.
[58:53] So that contributes to the professional quorum of the Board of Police Commission as well as the community.
[58:59] I believe if you give respect, you hold yourself in a certain manner while those meetings
[59:07] are going on, the community sees it, the police department sees it, and I think that
[59:13] just goes a long way.
[59:15] You've got the professional quorum means a lot, and when I say being on time, that's a part
[59:21] of the professional quorum.
[59:22] You have to be on time, so in terms of, you know, for me and professional poem, those are the
[59:30] standards that I hope for myself, be on time and so I love what respect, whether you agree
[59:36] or disagree.
[59:37] It's about respect.
[59:39] And then my last question is through the chair to yourself, Mr. Jones, the investigations.
[59:44] I don't know where we are every year, they're backed up, so I don't know, I think for
[59:50] request or backed up. Investigations are backed up. It may be different going into the new
[59:55] budget season, but this last one they still had a backlog of investigations.
[1:00:00] How would you tackle that? What, how would you have that addressed? Because that's the board issue.
[1:00:07] That's a good question. You know, never serving on the Board of Police Commission, you know, there's always going to be a learning curve.
[1:00:18] And that's the first thing that I would have to learn as you talk about the FOIA backlogs. So, you know, if appointed, once appointed,
[1:00:28] You know, I'm going to do everything that I can to see about, you know, what can we do to, you know,
[1:00:35] whittle down the pile of backlogs. And but like I said, I've got to learn what's going on.
[1:00:43] You know, it'd be kind of difficult for me to sit here and say, okay, this is what I'm going to do there.
[1:00:47] And I don't understand the process. So, but I, if there's a substantial backlog, I'm going to do everything that I can.
[1:00:54] As one of the members, we'll see what we can do to whittle this down because I obviously
[1:01:00] sounds it's a problem.
[1:01:03] Thank you, Mr. Jones.
[1:01:04] Thank you, Mentor.
[1:01:05] Just one quick question.
[1:01:06] Thank you.
[1:01:07] Member Waters?
[1:01:08] All right.
[1:01:09] Do you know any of the Board of Police Commissioners right now?
[1:01:12] I do.
[1:01:13] Yeah.
[1:01:14] I do know Eva.
[1:01:16] Carver.
[1:01:17] Garver.
[1:01:18] Garver.
[1:01:18] Garver.
[1:01:19] And I know Linda Carter.
[1:01:23] And the cards are okay.
[1:01:25] I don't think I'm in Quantez.
[1:01:28] So I do know the three of them.
[1:01:30] Okay.
[1:01:30] All right.
[1:01:31] Just carry somewhere.
[1:01:33] I do know the three of them.
[1:01:36] Well, I can't say that I do know that you have the type of temperament
[1:01:42] that allows you to work with other people.
[1:01:47] And, you know, and to get along all well with others as well.
[1:01:50] I do know that.
[1:01:51] Thank you very much.
[1:01:51] Thank you.
[1:01:54] All right.
[1:01:55] Thank you.
[1:01:56] I have a question about addressing behavior of police officers.
[1:02:03] So that's what we see a lot in the Internal Operations Committee.
[1:02:08] We have individuals who may have lost sight of something, they want to make a quick
[1:02:16] turn and cause an incident or whatever the case may be. It really pulls from the city's
[1:02:25] coffers. Certainly there are better ways that our dollars can be spent. I think we need
[1:02:33] to have a better relationship with the Board of Police Commissioners but also ensuring that
[1:02:38] Board of Police Commissioners is requiring discipline, removing officers when officers need
[1:02:48] to be removed. I know that DPOA and other union organizations are involved in that decision,
[1:02:54] but I think we have to be honest about the individuals that serve within the department.
[1:03:02] Majority of them, probably 90% of them do a great job.
[1:03:08] We have some individuals who need either more development, more training, need to be tapped
[1:03:18] on the hand to say, okay, this is not acceptable.
[1:03:21] Talk to me about your willingness to do those things because at the end of the day it costs
[1:03:28] city money when we continually have individuals who are misbehaving or doing things that create
[1:03:37] situations where we have lawsuits that come before this body.
[1:03:43] It's a very good question.
[1:03:45] I can tell you that in cases where it's been proven where an officer has wrongly done something,
[1:03:57] I have no problems with the necessary disciplinary action that needs to happen.
[1:04:07] With police officers, and I know it's a tough job, but you've always got to be professional.
[1:04:14] And I'm a stickler for that.
[1:04:15] I mean, I'm probably like, many Detroiters have been pulled over, but I can't say that I've
[1:04:22] ever truly been disrespected.
[1:04:23] There have been a couple incidents where it could have gone either way.
[1:04:28] But I think if we've got, you know, offices out there that are
[1:04:34] not doing the right thing,
[1:04:37] I have no problems at all handing out whatever disciplinary action isn't necessarily.
[1:04:43] That's probably the best way for me to say it.
[1:04:45] Okay.
[1:04:47] All right.
[1:04:47] I appreciate that.
[1:04:49] I do think it takes for all of us to set the tone and the behavior of our officers.
[1:04:58] I have said frequently that many of us, I'm sure we can sit at a red light and see a
[1:05:05] police vehicle come and run the red light.
[1:05:09] No sirens on, no lights on because they're probably just going to lunch.
[1:05:13] I don't know what it is.
[1:05:17] But just discouraging that behavior because that to me says you are above the law that you don't have to stop at this red light like the rest of the you don't have to wait is different.
[1:05:28] And of course, if you are headed to a scene, you have an emergency, and then I would expect
[1:05:35] for your life and silence to be on for you to go through that red light.
[1:05:40] But just that behavior, I think, really helps to shift the behavior of our residents.
[1:05:47] And I think that is a level of respect that we give to our residents and saying, okay, if
[1:05:55] I'm not in a hurry.
[1:05:56] I can wait just like you can.
[1:05:58] So it's just those little things that I think can make a tremendous impact.
[1:06:03] And those are the types of things that I would love to see improved, changed so that our
[1:06:11] officers show respect for our residents and that they are truly and honestly they are to serve
[1:06:22] and protect.
[1:06:23] Mm-hmm.
[1:06:23] I concur.
[1:06:25] All right.
[1:06:26] I concur.
[1:06:26] Thank you.
[1:06:28] Is there anything else you'd like to leave with us before we conclude the interview?
[1:06:33] No.
[1:06:34] I appreciate the opportunity to come before this honorable body.
[1:06:39] I appreciate the questions that you've asked me.
[1:06:43] Hopefully, I have responded in a way that does answer your questions.
[1:06:49] But that's it.
[1:06:51] All right.
[1:06:51] Thank you so much.
[1:06:52] Thank you very much.
[1:06:53] Thank you.
[1:06:56] Thank you.
[1:06:56] All right, colleagues.
[1:06:58] Yes, please.
[1:07:00] Thank you.
[1:07:01] Thank you.
[1:07:03] That now concludes our 1035 interview.
[1:07:08] The resolution for line item 7 is on line item 9.1 is there a motion.
[1:07:17] There's a motion to send line item 9.1 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[1:07:23] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:07:28] That now closes out the 1035 interview.
[1:07:34] And now we are going to move on to unfinished business.
[1:07:40] We have already addressed line items 8.1 and 8.2.
[1:07:45] Line item 8.3 is the status of Detroit Wayne Joint Building Authority, the interview
[1:07:56] of Byron Osborne for the joint appointment.
[1:08:01] Colleagues is there.
[1:08:02] Emotion to discuss.
[1:08:04] Discussion?
[1:08:06] Thank you.
[1:08:07] So we did get an opinion from LPD and it looks like we are awaiting a response from the law
[1:08:14] department, Attorney Anderson.
[1:08:19] Through the chair, I confident we could get that expediated to you guys before the week
[1:08:27] So for
[1:08:31] attorney Anderson that doesn't help us on moving on this item.
[1:08:37] So we can move it to formal, but we have no idea what the law department's response will be through the chair.
[1:08:46] I do not have that information in front of me at this time unfortunately.
[1:08:51] So we can base it on the opinion of LPD.
[1:08:54] He's attorney Anderson said by the end of the week.
[1:09:06] We did receive a response from LPD, so colleagues, I'm okay with us moving this to formal.
[1:09:17] Nathan, motion to approve.
[1:09:19] There's a motion to send line item 8.3 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
[1:09:24] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:09:30] And we will await the law departments response.
[1:09:35] Thank you, Attorney Anderson.
[1:09:37] Thank you.
[1:09:39] Line item 8.4 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Tracy Reynolds versus City of Detroit.
[1:09:44] Case number 2-4-001-977- and oh, this is for the Department of Public Works in the amount
[1:09:52] of $80,000.
[1:09:54] This was held by Member Calaway.
[1:09:56] Member Calaway?
[1:09:57] Any additional discussion?
[1:09:58] Yeah.
[1:09:59] additional discussion madam chair discussion member Calaway to the law department. Why not dismiss this I mean she
[1:10:06] According to state law in our own laws she was writing her e-scooter on the sidewalk when she's supposed to be in the street. So why are we settling for $80,000 when she's at fault?
[1:10:16] Through the chair
[1:10:18] I would
[1:10:19] at allegedly to a few of those statements, but the decision by the litigation team was to not file
[1:10:32] motion for summary disposition and instead use it as a bargaining chip that is a
[1:10:42] Certain tactic that is often used when you are not certain what a judge's decision will be.
[1:10:53] It is one philosophy.
[1:10:58] Other philosophies would be more aggressive approach I understand,
[1:11:03] but that is what the litigation team felt was the wisest decision in this matter.
[1:11:11] Okay. Well, it's nothing alleged about her writing her G-Scooter on the sidewalk that's been
[1:11:18] proven and she hit a sidewalk that allegedly our youth were allegedly was defective.
[1:11:26] Now, do we know whether or not before we approve this and I'm not going to support the approval
[1:11:30] of it whether or not that sidewalk has been repaired or whether or not the sidewalk is the responsibility
[1:11:38] of the city to repair. Do we know that before we approve this?
[1:11:42] Through the chair I do not know if it has been repaired at this time, I would have to
[1:11:45] check with the administration.
[1:11:47] Okay, so of course I'm going to ask that we bring this back because if that same side walk
[1:11:50] is in disrepair, I wouldn't want someone going over the same walk and tripping and falling
[1:11:58] and whatever else and we're here again, but we should dismiss him.
[1:12:02] she is at fault, and she fractured her left wrist, and we're settling for $80,000.
[1:12:11] So I'm going to not support it, and I'm just not understanding the city's liability,
[1:12:20] and why are we being held responsible in what about the scooter operator?
[1:12:27] She should, I mean, she's, she's, she's, she's that fault, but when I argue that here, I will just be a no on this one, but thank you, Madam Chair.
[1:12:37] Thank you.
[1:12:38] Any additional?
[1:12:40] Member Kelley, you mentioned you wanted to bring it back.
[1:12:45] I just want to know, yeah, motion to bring it back in a week. There's no rush on this.
[1:12:50] And if we can get the law department to file for dismissal and go after her for filing a, you know, a frivolous lawsuit, we should do that.
[1:13:03] But yeah, motion to bring it back, pending the answer to my question whether or not this sidewalk has been repaired.
[1:13:11] Madam Chair.
[1:13:13] Mr. Washington.
[1:13:15] Yes, through the chair, I just want to bring up that we will be on recess beginning next week.
[1:13:20] And so this would come back in the fall if you do decide to hold any committee.
[1:13:26] Thank you.
[1:13:30] There's my motion stance.
[1:13:32] We'll bring it back when we return.
[1:13:33] There's a motion to bring line item 8.4 back.
[1:13:40] TBD.
[1:13:41] After recess, I'm not sure.
[1:13:44] It effectively is in one week.
[1:13:47] It's just our next meeting is in September.
[1:13:50] So, Madam Parliamentarian is there a particular way you'd like for me to address this.
[1:13:56] I'm assuming we'll have others and make sure your microphone is on.
[1:14:00] No, man, if the chair is decision.
[1:14:03] Okay.
[1:14:03] According to the rule to order for the electricity council.
[1:14:07] All right, so there's a motion to bring line item 8.4 back in one week.
[1:14:14] Here you know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:14:21] I'm not sure if through yourself to Mr. Anderson, do you know the location of the of this incident?
[1:14:29] Because if we know that, then we should know whether or not that particular sidewalk has been repaired since this incident.
[1:14:37] Through the chair, I do not have the particular information, right?
[1:14:40] But I'm sure we can get it.
[1:14:42] Yeah, it would be in her complaint.
[1:14:47] All
[1:14:51] right, line item 8.5 is a settlement request in lawsuit of Trish Cunningham versus City of Detroit case number two one
[1:15:00] 1-1-2459. This is for a B.C. in the amount of $125,000. Is there a motion to approve or discuss?
[1:15:14] There's a motion to send line item 8.5 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[1:15:19] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:15:24] Line item 8.6 is a settlement request in lawsuit of Kayla Jefferson versus City of Detroit and Robert Warren at all.
[1:15:33] Case number two four dash zero one one seven three two dash in eye.
[1:15:37] This is for the police department in the amount of thirty thousand dollars.
[1:15:44] Is there a motion to approve or discuss?
[1:15:48] Discussion member Callaway.
[1:15:49] Yeah, um, whatever happened with this officer,
[1:15:54] through yourself to maybe someone from DPD.
[1:16:02] Mr. Washington. Yes, Madam Chair, we do have Patrick Emery on my.
[1:16:08] Thank you, Erin, if you will please promote Patrick Emery.
[1:16:14] Mr. Emery is being promoted right now. Thank you.
[1:16:27] Good morning. Good morning.
[1:16:29] Member Kelley. Yeah, thank you.
[1:16:34] This particular officer,
[1:16:38] line item 8.6. I don't know if you can see that.
[1:16:41] But whatever happened with this officer, not stopping in a four-way stop and crashing into the plaintiff's vehicle.
[1:16:52] And that was described by my colleague, similar driver, by our office, not all of them, some of our officers.
[1:17:03] Yeah. First off, my name is Patrick Emery. I'm a project manager with the Detroit Police Department, just for the record. Secondly, through the chair, this member was actually was actually issued a written
[1:17:15] for this incident because they were determined to be at fault one important piece regarding the scenario is they did have lights and sirens active.
[1:17:25] During the event, however, they did not follow policy to the letter when interacting with the intersection, even though they had the emergency lights and sirens active.
[1:17:35] Okay, I'm reading that they didn't. You're saying that they did.
[1:17:39] Yes, it's my understanding that they did however, however they did not follow policy with it.
[1:17:46] I can double check on that for you, but as far as the notes that I have.
[1:17:50] Okay, if you can confirm that because I'm reading something different that they did not, the officer did not have his siren on, did not have his lights on and was found at fault.
[1:18:01] Okay. They were they were found at fault. I can confirm that, but I will confirm on the likes and sirens for you.
[1:18:09] Okay. And did we place this particular officer through the chair on desk duty since he's not.
[1:18:15] He's not driving well and causing us to have to settle these lawsuits.
[1:18:20] What happens to these officers? I mean, a written reprimand is fine. That doesn't follow him. He goes to another agency.
[1:18:25] It should follow them, but it doesn't.
[1:18:28] They get to travel and go get promotions and nowhere.
[1:18:32] No one ever brings up the fact that they got a written
[1:18:34] reprimand.
[1:18:35] Never comes up again.
[1:18:37] Just goes away.
[1:18:38] It's presented to him and they just follow it up, goes away.
[1:18:43] Not in their files, doesn't follow them.
[1:18:45] They go to another police agency, anywhere in the country.
[1:18:48] Nobody will ever know that that particular officer got a written
[1:18:52] reprimand.
[1:18:52] because it doesn't follow them. It's not in their personal file.
[1:18:57] To my notes.
[1:18:58] So, through the chair, we do,
[1:19:00] so a couple of questions, we're there first off,
[1:19:03] we do,
[1:19:04] we do suspend their driving privileges,
[1:19:07] I believe it's for 90 days,
[1:19:09] so after an accident,
[1:19:10] after an at full accident,
[1:19:12] that's just to give,
[1:19:13] just to give us time to get that additional training to them.
[1:19:17] Regarding this specific incident,
[1:19:20] We do, we do progressive discipline with our members, so for instance if they do have
[1:19:25] another incidents of this, I'll present to DPOA requirements, we do progress that discipline
[1:19:31] to additional steps beyond that written, or if this behavior continues.
[1:19:39] Thank you.
[1:19:39] Thank you.
[1:19:39] Thank you.
[1:19:39] Thank you.
[1:19:40] Thank you.
[1:19:41] And I have the same information that Member Callaway referred to.
[1:19:46] And so, colleagues, is there a motion to bring this back at the end of the agenda to see if we can get Mr.
[1:19:54] Emery's information on the actual occurrence?
[1:20:00] There's a motion to bring line item 8.6 back at the end of the agenda.
[1:20:05] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:20:10] Without objection, I'd like to combine line items 8.7 through 8.14.
[1:20:21] We're still awaiting information for these line items is their emotion to bring them back.
[1:20:28] And one week after recess, there's emotion to bring line items 8.7 through 8.14 back.
[1:20:37] And one week,
[1:20:42] which will be after recess, here you know, objections that action shall be taken.
[1:20:52] Line item 8.15 is contract number 600554-A15 100% city funding, a amendment number 15 to provide an extension of time and an increase of funds for illegal services.
[1:21:08] contractor, think, Bre'sick, PLLC, contract period, through June 30, 2021, contract
[1:21:18] increase amount, $400,000, is there a motion to approve or discuss?
[1:21:26] Discussion.
[1:21:26] Member Waters?
[1:21:27] Just one quick question, now this through you, Madam Chair, to a law department.
[1:21:33] And this, you know, we see that always be dealing with this all firm.
[1:21:38] So, this increase amount is going to do what?
[1:21:41] Through the chair, Gram Anderson Law Department, what this increase amount will extend the
[1:21:46] time for them to continue to manage the litigation items that they're handling.
[1:21:53] Hopefully to resolve some of them, but various of these items are very long-winded litigation
[1:22:02] matters with appeals and other means that really slow down litigation, but we are moving forward
[1:22:11] with multiple items.
[1:22:16] All right, I'm not going to hold it up, but I do want to know at some point specifically
[1:22:23] for this law firm, just some sort of report in terms of what they've accomplished, what's
[1:22:30] standing, not necessarily in a details of what they can do that, that would be great.
[1:22:35] We're the Chair, I can absolutely provide that to you.
[1:22:37] All right. Motion to approve.
[1:22:39] There's a motion to sign the item 8.15 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[1:22:45] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:22:51] Moving on to line item 8.18 line item 8.18 is the status of Council President
[1:23:01] Mary Sheffield, submitting memorandum relative to requesting the law department to draft an amended
[1:23:08] department ordinance.
[1:23:10] Colleagues, there's a request to bring line item 18, 8.18 back after recess is their emotion.
[1:23:18] There's a motion to bring line item 8.18 back after recess.
[1:23:24] Here you know objections that action should be taken.
[1:23:27] Line item 8.19, status of council, president, marriage, sheffields, a minimum random relative
[1:23:33] to request for an opinion on tax abatements for urban agriculture.
[1:23:39] There is also a request to bring this line item back after recess.
[1:23:44] Motion to bring line item 8.19 back after recess, there are projections that action
[1:23:51] shall be taken. Moving on to new business, and we have already addressed line item 9.1, line
[1:24:03] item 9.2, submit a report relative to June monthly report of contracts approved administrative
[1:24:10] Colleys is there in motion to discuss, discussion, discussion, discussion, to the administration is there anyone from OCP here.
[1:24:25] It looks like we have a couple of tax clearances that have expired.
[1:24:35] Yes, Madam Chair, my believe director Stahl is wrapping up another meeting.
[1:24:39] if we can bring this back towards the end of the agenda, she should be available.
[1:24:44] Oh, I'm sorry. That's the wrong line item.
[1:24:48] Mr. Washington. Okay.
[1:24:52] We will this this line item is fine.
[1:24:55] I'm referring to line item 9.6, but we'll get there in a moment.
[1:24:59] Colleges is their emotion to receive and file line item 9.2 motion.
[1:25:06] Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.
[1:25:13] Line item 9.3 is contract number 6007162, 100% city funding to provide an unmanned
[1:25:22] aerial system, systems airspace management program, contractor airspace link, ink, contract
[1:25:32] period upon City Council approval for a period of three years total contract amount
[1:25:39] 397,800, 3,800, and 3 dollars.
[1:25:49] Colleagues is their emotion to approve or discuss discussion.
[1:25:54] Discussion.
[1:25:55] Member Waters.
[1:25:56] All right.
[1:25:57] If someone could come on, Madam Chair, just tell us what this actually does, what will
[1:26:04] community get for dollars.
[1:26:08] I see Mike Homa and Tamara Fant here. Please join us at the table.
[1:26:22] Thank you, Tamara Fant Enterprise Applications Manager, Department of Innovation and Technology.
[1:26:28] Mike Homa, do a leadership team. Good morning. Thank you, Madam Chair. I think you heard my
[1:26:34] question alone. Through the chair, this contract provides us the ability to manage and train
[1:26:43] our drone pilots in a centralized manner, right now, a lot of different departments, our
[1:26:47] following C-Ox and getting drones and using them for business purposes for the taxpayers,
[1:26:54] but it's in a decentralized manner and we want to make sure we're getting all the proper
[1:27:02] FAA clearances and the ability to possibly track drones that are in the city air space, when
[1:27:10] in restricted airspace, the ability to file FAA exceptions when a department wants to fly beyond
[1:27:19] line of visible sight, which is called BV loss, or used drones in incidents or around areas
[1:27:27] that have restricted airspace such as a major event in the city, the fireworks, the opening
[1:27:35] of Michigan Central, things like that.
[1:27:38] You need to file and do paperwork.
[1:27:41] Additionally, the professional services
[1:27:44] hours included in the contract.
[1:27:46] This company is one of the industry leaders,
[1:27:50] and is much more familiar with a lot of the different grants
[1:27:55] that are available to help in power drones and municipalities,
[1:28:00] especially when it comes to fire.
[1:28:04] public safety type features, so they're going to help us and provide our grants department
[1:28:11] additional knowledge and support to help the city apply for additional grants.
[1:28:19] Okay.
[1:28:21] All right.
[1:28:21] Thank you.
[1:28:22] Simple as I had that.
[1:28:23] You have anything to add?
[1:28:25] What?
[1:28:25] Through the chair.
[1:28:27] In my capacity as enterprise applications manager, the management of this software and
[1:28:32] administration of the software will go through the enterprise applications, the enterprise
[1:28:36] DIS team.
[1:28:40] All right.
[1:28:41] Thank you.
[1:28:42] Thank you, thank you, Mayor Chair.
[1:28:43] Thank you.
[1:28:44] Any additional questions, Member Callaway?
[1:28:46] Thank you.
[1:28:47] Thank you.
[1:28:47] Good morning to you both.
[1:28:48] How many drones do we have in the city that we're using?
[1:28:52] I know the fire department uses.
[1:28:54] Where else are their drones?
[1:28:58] Through the chair.
[1:28:59] Currently that is a challenge.
[1:29:00] We do not have a solid inventory.
[1:29:03] We've done a count where we believe there's drones.
[1:29:07] We know fire has 16 drones, but we believe there's about 36
[1:29:11] drones through various departments in the city.
[1:29:15] And we don't, there isn't a way to answer that question directly.
[1:29:21] So that's part of what this will allow.
[1:29:24] Madam Chair, before we, this is just a motion.
[1:29:27] I think we should bring this back after recess.
[1:29:28] we need to get a handle on how many drones we have in the city before we enter our contract.
[1:29:33] We need to know what we have in our inventory before we sign up, enter this contract.
[1:29:39] We don't want them telling us how many we have.
[1:29:41] We should know exactly what's in our inventory in which department has the drones and what
[1:29:45] they're using them for and then enter this type of contract.
[1:29:49] So, I would motion to bring this back after recess.
[1:29:52] Thank you, man.
[1:29:55] All right, but before we take up the motion, question for you.
[1:30:00] So, I see 16, do you all know 22 FAA certified? Pilots, are those are drones?
[1:30:14] The fire department has 22 FAA in order to fly a drone. You have to have an FAA certification.
[1:30:22] And so we know that there are 22 certified pilots within the fire department.
[1:30:27] Okay, all right, so as far as we know, they're only 16, but I thought DPD had some as well.
[1:30:39] There are numerous departments.
[1:30:41] They are sharing drones, for example, B.C.
[1:30:45] Use of some of fire drones.
[1:30:47] And one of the purposes of this central act for the management of those drones is in order for us to centralize the drones as opposed to departments going out and purchasing drones on their own.
[1:31:01] This is a way for do it and enterprise applications in order to get an inventory, have the management of those drones in a centralized way that is FAA compliant.
[1:31:17] So do we know if the drones that are currently being utilized by various departments have gotten the approval from the FAA?
[1:31:27] through the chair.
[1:31:28] You're trying to implicate the departments.
[1:31:30] No, through the chair, we believe the, and our told, the departments are following
[1:31:37] FAA guidelines when they fly the drones.
[1:31:40] It's not the actual getting of the drones that is requires FAA approval.
[1:31:47] It's before you fly, needs to be run, and it needs to be a certified FAA pilot for liability
[1:31:56] reasons there's also maintenance. We want to make sure they're tracking and things like that
[1:32:01] on the drones. We do have what we believe is an inventory of the drones throughout the city,
[1:32:08] but we are not absolutely positive. It's exhaustive. So do it is looking through enterprise applications
[1:32:15] which is what the group tamer leads to have this in a centralized location so we can be confident.
[1:32:22] And we do have that list and we'd be able to share that list at the end of this meeting.
[1:32:30] If that would be acceptable of where we think the different departments, how many pilots
[1:32:35] they have, how many drones we believe they have.
[1:32:39] Our understanding, this software does not do any image capture, any image processing, any video
[1:32:46] capture, anything related to the processing or capturing of any images.
[1:32:51] But the drones themselves as the departments are justifying and buying them either through funds or grants.
[1:33:00] All our understanding is under CIGs, so they're bringing all those to the appropriate council department, council committees, and getting those approved.
[1:33:09] That's how we've looked at the list and through working with the departments, know what's out there.
[1:33:14] We've engaged the departments and we're working to get this out there.
[1:33:19] We're not looking for the vendor to give us an inventory.
[1:33:23] We believe we have an inventory, but we're not 100% confident in it.
[1:33:28] That's what we're working towards.
[1:33:31] So this line item will help you to manage the inventory that's there and make sure that they
[1:33:37] have airspace rights when they're flying.
[1:33:40] Okay, and I do just want to plug the Davis Aerospace High School and hoping that we are engaging with those young students because they are being trained to
[1:33:53] fly drones, land drones, and all of that and maybe be able to utilize this technology to manage them as well.
[1:34:00] All right, colleagues.
[1:34:01] Member Callaway.
[1:34:03] My motion still stands, but I would like to see a complete list of where the drones are.
[1:34:07] I know that I have sat here and support it drones, especially DFD and the work that they've been doing.
[1:34:17] And then also I think the construction and demolition department has borrowed those drones to go in to see if there's a basement, which is what I asked for almost a year ago.
[1:34:28] So, this is great, but I would just like to see a complete list, because they've come before the council and we've approved them, where the drones are, before we enter the software contract.
[1:34:41] And then also I'd like to list other municipalities that UAS provide this software to, to manage their, and track and monitor their drone usage.
[1:34:55] what are the cities that is similarly situated, size of Detroit, urban,
[1:35:04] environment.
[1:35:07] So hopefully you've got those questions, but those would be some of the questions that I'd like answer during recess
[1:35:13] or before this contract comes back. Thank you, Mount Chir.
[1:35:17] Through the chair, we can have those answers to you by the end of business today if that would
[1:35:24] allow us to proceed.
[1:35:30] My motion is that if you brought back during recess, if you want to get the answers to my questions through the chair.
[1:35:35] You're welcome to do that, but I'd like to read some more about this company.
[1:35:42] I'd like to know who else they provide these services to, and I can't do that by the end of the day today.
[1:35:47] So, motion to bring it back after recess. Thank you, Madam Chair.
[1:35:50] There's a motion to bring line item 9.3 back after recess.
[1:35:57] Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[1:36:02] Thank you all so much.
[1:36:03] May want to stay seated.
[1:36:07] Line item 9.4 is contract number 60005384-A2 100% ARPA funding.
[1:36:17] Amendment number 2 to provide an extension of time only for installation of fiber cable
[1:36:23] between Detroit Public Safety Headquarters and the Lyndon Data Center, Contractor 5 star
[1:36:31] Energy Services LLC, Contract Period,
[1:36:37] the rule December 31st, 2025, colleagues is their
[1:36:44] to approve or discuss? Discussion. Member Kelley. Thank you. What's the address?
[1:36:53] To this location, I don't know if there's two, two, eight, seven, zero, five, five,
[1:37:00] enterprise drive, big bin, west council. I sat at the correct address for this company, and I guess
[1:37:07] would be to do it or contract some procurement. Line out of 9.4.
[1:37:18] Ruth, the chair, I believe that is the correct address. If somebody from OCP is on and wants to
[1:37:24] with the firm, that would be awesome.
[1:37:34] That is the address on file with the contract as it was
[1:37:37] executed in 2023. And through the chair to you, when will this project be wrapped up? Because this
[1:37:44] The second amendment, thank God, is our profunda.
[1:37:47] When do we anticipate this being wrapped up?
[1:37:51] Through the chair, this project experience
[1:37:53] and delays with some collapsed conduit,
[1:37:56] which we're covered under the scope of the project.
[1:38:00] As far as financially so we don't need additional money,
[1:38:03] we're adding money to take us to December 31st
[1:38:06] and the project will be wrapped up by December 31st.
[1:38:09] Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Matt here.
[1:38:11] Thank you.
[1:38:14] Colleagues is there a motion on 9.4.
[1:38:23] There's a motion to send line item 9.4 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[1:38:29] Here are no objections.
[1:38:30] That action shall be taken.
[1:38:34] Thank you.
[1:38:41] Line item 9.5 contract number 6 007175 100% grant funding to provide legal representation to
[1:38:51] covered individuals at risk of losing their housing and or housing subsidy or voucher.
[1:38:58] Contractor, neighborhood defender, service, ink, contract, period, a Ponsity Council approval
[1:39:07] through September 30, 2020, 6. Total contract amount, 1,531,320 dollars.
[1:39:19] Colleagues is there a motion to approve or discuss?
[1:39:26] Discussion.
[1:39:28] Member Waters?
[1:39:29] Yeah, I just, I mean, certainly is seen to be suffix, planetary.
[1:39:37] And I do know that we're in a position right now where we just don't know when it comes
[1:39:43] to housing, subsidy, and vouchers.
[1:39:45] Um, the experience of this, um, are you familiar with this company? Anybody?
[1:39:54] Through the chair.
[1:39:56] Yeah.
[1:39:56] Attorney Anderson.
[1:39:58] We are joined by Diamond Conley who can provide the details of this contract.
[1:40:02] All right.
[1:40:03] Thank you.
[1:40:04] Ms. Conley is joining us virtually.
[1:40:08] Erin, will you please promote Ms. Conley?
[1:40:12] Ms. Conley is a panelists.
[1:40:15] Thank you.
[1:40:18] Good morning, Honorable City Council members, Diamond Conley, Executive Director of Right to Council.
[1:40:23] Good morning.
[1:40:25] Member Waters.
[1:40:27] I see it here here, question.
[1:40:29] And yes, I am familiar with neighborhood defender services.
[1:40:33] So neighborhood defender services has been around for a few years in the city of Detroit.
[1:40:40] Primarily doing public defense work for the city of Detroit.
[1:40:43] But they do have a small landlord tenant practice and that attorney they've had about one or two attorneys doing landlord tenant work at 36 district or already
[1:40:54] His name is Matthew one of them is Matthew Larsen. He's also been doing know your rights workshops
[1:41:00] And so their goal is to expand their capacity to represent finance at 36 district court
[1:41:07] And there's proposal was selected for a few reasons.
[1:41:13] First, when we looked at how many tenants we were representing that need right to council at 36 district court,
[1:41:19] we're only representing about 77% of those tenants in 2024.
[1:41:25] We want to try to expand that.
[1:41:28] And so that is one of the reasons why we wanted to bring on now this state agency
[1:41:33] to try to assist with getting the tenants that need full legal representation
[1:41:39] the lawyers that they need.
[1:41:42] The second reason why their proposal was chosen is because they follow a holistic model.
[1:41:48] And so with this funding, their goal is to hire about six additional attorneys along
[1:41:54] with the social worker and client advocate.
[1:41:56] And we know that when there are eviction cases,
[1:42:00] we have tenants that may be facing mental health challenges or they may need help with
[1:42:06] getting connected to job resources or they may need to go to work and so they can't gather
[1:42:11] documents that they need for the hearing and so this holistic model that neighborhood
[1:42:16] defender services already has a place on their criminal side they'd like to expand that into our
[1:42:22] landlord tenant division as well and my goal would be that every tenant experiences this model
[1:42:29] right this holistic model of representation, but neighborhood
[1:42:33] defender services already has a structure for that.
[1:42:36] And so under this contract, we're just trying to expand
[1:42:40] the capacity, the number of agencies that are working
[1:42:43] all right to counsel along with giving our tenants more
[1:42:46] resources so that it's not just trying to resolve the
[1:42:49] eviction issue, but hopefully keeping them out of the
[1:42:52] cycle because they have a social worker or client advocates
[1:42:55] to work with as well.
[1:42:57] So, so that's the reason why we've kind of brought in neighborhood defender services for our hoping to
[1:43:04] At this point. All right, so just just one other thing. I do hope that
[1:43:10] They can work with a tenant's rights commission as well. You know, we don't want to have a tenant's rights commission out there not understanding or knowing what's going on.
[1:43:23] That's why we put them in place and so hopefully they can keep them informed about what's going on so that everybody's in the loop.
[1:43:37] Absolutely.
[1:43:38] What if this contract is approved?
[1:43:41] I'll make it go for neighborhood defender services to maybe attend some of those tennis rights commissions and get themselves out there so that the community is aware that they are now playing a larger role.
[1:43:52] right to council and and therefore our tenants on a larger scale yeah. Okay so so there's I think
[1:43:59] the meeting somewhere this Thursday the that commission I'm not sure where I want to say it far
[1:44:06] well but I don't know for sure but just to kind of put that out I know you stop by one or two of
[1:44:12] of yourself. Yes and I want to see them really get off on the right track and become really effective
[1:44:19] for for community. Absolutely. And thank you for your time. Thank you madam chair.
[1:44:27] Thank you. Any additional questions?
[1:44:30] Motion to approve. I will say that I wasn't familiar with the organization either.
[1:44:35] I had to look them up, but I'm glad to see that they are representative of the community.
[1:44:41] So thank you. There is a motion to send line item 9.5 to form with the recommendation to approve.
[1:44:49] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:44:56] Thank you.
[1:44:57] Thank you.
[1:45:00] Line item 9.6. Line item 9.6 is DSS number 10. Legal services, attorneys for indigent individuals, one schedule 10, 100% grant, slash city funding,
[1:45:21] to provide legal assistance for indigent individuals.
[1:45:23] the basic mission of the program is to provide high quality legal representation to anyone who is charged
[1:45:31] with misdemeanor crimes in the 36 district court and cannot afford to hire in attorney.
[1:45:43] The period is upon city council approval for a period of five years, total maximum order limitation,
[1:45:52] is $30,000,000, $1,131,141,587, and $97,000,
[1:46:03] is there a motion to discuss the discussion?
[1:46:08] The chair.
[1:46:09] The attorney Anderson.
[1:46:11] We are also joined by attorney Romo Romando, who is joined us right there, perfect.
[1:46:19] Thank you.
[1:46:21] Good morning, honorable council members.
[1:46:23] I apologize.
[1:46:23] Robert Mando Deputy Director of Energy Defense Department for the City of Detroit.
[1:46:27] Just doesn't introduction.
[1:46:29] Good morning.
[1:46:30] Mr. Washington.
[1:46:32] Do we want to see one from OCP?
[1:46:35] Yes, Madam Chair.
[1:46:36] We do have the Director.
[1:46:37] Who's joined?
[1:46:38] Thank you.
[1:46:40] If we can promote, Director Sol is well.
[1:46:55] Director Sol has been promoted.
[1:46:58] Thank you.
[1:47:11] Good morning.
[1:47:12] Good morning.
[1:47:13] Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for joining us. I have two questions actually for
[1:47:20] Director Stallone. There are two at least two of the attorneys that were identified.
[1:47:31] It looks like we don't have their tax clearance.
[1:47:35] I do have an update. The three that are listed as pending tax clearance do have tax
[1:47:43] Clarences. My buyer is sending that documentation over to LPD for that clarification.
[1:47:52] I would like to submit a correction letter removing two of the attorneys listed as having
[1:47:58] all their documents because we are still waiting for a couple of documents.
[1:48:06] Okay, thank you. And how do attorneys actually get signed up to do the work?
[1:48:16] We have a list of attorneys that have been working in this program and our team have been working with them to ensure that they have all of their affidavids and treasury clearances.
[1:48:32] To be approved for the supply schedule, there is also a list of qualifications and requirements from the law department.
[1:48:41] Okay, so it is part of supply schedule.
[1:48:45] That's what I was curious about.
[1:48:47] Okay, very good.
[1:48:48] All right, thank you.
[1:48:48] Colleagues, questions.
[1:48:51] Member Waters?
[1:48:52] Yes, thank you, man, chair.
[1:48:55] So we have a lot of things that are being proposed to be done in-house here.
[1:49:01] At the city, you have an ordinance coming down the pike for to process
[1:49:08] misdemeanors here. We haven't passed it, but it's coming down the pipe. So how does this affect
[1:49:16] those kinds of things? Through the chair. That will not happen, in fact, on this what this contract
[1:49:25] does, and a Terny Marvondo, he can really spell it out in details, is what originally happened
[1:49:32] And when people would go before a judge, and they would not have a representation of their own,
[1:49:40] the court would appoint attorneys to them.
[1:49:43] We don't do that anymore.
[1:49:45] We now have this outside way of having attorneys be referred to individuals in need of legal
[1:49:53] defense.
[1:49:54] That's where this contract comes into.
[1:49:56] And once you sneak about this contract, too, is a lot of the legal contracts that come
[1:50:01] way here, whether you know it's another can feel, or think, or whoever, that's a set law
[1:50:09] firm with the attorneys there that are going to represent all the issues.
[1:50:13] Here, this is very unique. This is essentially almost a listserv of attorneys that can
[1:50:20] join up and provide legal defense. What's also fantastic about this is to account some
[1:50:27] Johnson's question, how do they sign up? If they meet the qualifications and they sign up,
[1:50:34] these attorneys, they are automatically added to this list. So this is a fantastic opportunity
[1:50:39] for young Detroit attorneys to get great experience in the courtroom in 36 district court,
[1:50:46] potentially have jury trials to be able to say, I am a true litigator, a true criminal defense
[1:50:53] attorney and use that to expand their practice as well as making a decent decent amount
[1:50:59] of money doing this too that this is this is a generous amount of money honestly I think
[1:51:05] they'll probably make a more money than myself doing these matters don't worry I'm not
[1:51:10] going anywhere though I'm not jumping shit by not a criminal attorney but these are criminal
[1:51:17] cases that we're talking about through the chair that is correct yes Mr.
[1:51:20] in your criminal cases. And I'm sure a attorney more
[1:51:24] Mando can expand on what I said.
[1:51:26] Well, he doesn't need to.
[1:51:29] But that's all. So I get it, you know.
[1:51:32] I mean, it's just that we know have different kinds
[1:51:34] of services here, you know, right to council.
[1:51:36] Of course, that's just dealing with housing.
[1:51:39] Yes.
[1:51:39] And then this is a criminal.
[1:51:40] So I want to make sure that we clarify that.
[1:51:44] So I'm good.
[1:51:45] Wonderful.
[1:51:46] Thank you, Madam Chair.
[1:51:47] Thank you.
[1:51:48] Director Saul, can you share with us?
[1:51:52] It is a 100% grant-slash city funding.
[1:51:57] Can you explain that make up of the funding?
[1:52:01] Yes, it is majority currently known to be majority
[1:52:07] if not all state grant funding,
[1:52:11] and Ron, please correct me if I'm wrong.
[1:52:14] I'm, I'm happy to interject here if I may, through the, through the chair, the, we've been, this program has been in effect with the city of Detroit. Now we're in our going into our sixth year.
[1:52:26] This is just to align with some compliance issues with the state so we can continue to get their grant each year. However, to answer your question specifically,
[1:52:37] the city has a share that we commit that's approximately $1 million per year. The grant
[1:52:45] amount is anywhere from $5 to $7 million per year projected over the next each of the next
[1:52:50] five years. So the city share is currently fixed at around $1 million. It's just over $1 million per
[1:52:58] year. The grant can fluctuate based on the needs of the program, changes that the state dictates
[1:53:05] to us. We do that budget with them each year. So I hope that answered your question. I'm
[1:53:10] happy to expound it when you did.
[1:53:11] It does. Thank you. Colleagues, any additional questions? Comments?
[1:53:16] Motion to see.
[1:53:17] There's a motion to send line item 9.6 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[1:53:23] Here you know objections that action shall be taken. Thank you both.
[1:53:29] Thank you.
[1:53:30] All right, moving on to line item 9.7, line item 9.7 is a settlement request and lawsuit of DNA Smith as PR of a state for
[1:53:44] Diante Marshall deceased versus City of Detroit case number two three dash zero one one six one five dash CZ
[1:53:55] In the amount of
[1:53:58] 2,000 five hundred dollars and this is for the Department of Transportation
[1:54:04] colleagues is there a motion to approve or discuss
[1:54:08] There's a motion to send line item nine point seven to formal with the recommendation to approve
[1:54:13] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:54:19] Line item 9.8 is an offer of judgment for Ladana Cretchfield versus City of Detroit at all.
[1:54:27] Case number 2.5-CV-10514.
[1:54:33] This is for the police department in the amount of $90,000 is their emotion.
[1:54:42] There's a motion to send line item 9.8.
[1:54:46] It's a form of with a recommendation to approve.
[1:54:50] Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[1:54:55] Line items.
[1:54:58] Line item 9.9 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Northland Radiology Inc.
[1:55:03] And Pioneer Lab Houston.
[1:55:05] versus city of Detroit, case number two, four, dash, zero, zero, seven, five, zero, nine,
[1:55:12] dash, and f. This is for the Department of Transportation in the amount of $5,700.
[1:55:19] Is there motion? Motion to approve. There's a motion to send line, item nine, point nine to
[1:55:24] form a with the recommendation to approve. Hearing no objections that action shall be taken.
[1:55:31] line item 9.10 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Pioneer Lab Houston LP versus City of Detroit,
[1:55:40] case number 2 4-00468- and I for the Department of Transportation in the amount of
[1:55:48] 5,796 dollars is their emotion.
[1:55:53] motion to approve.
[1:55:55] There's a motion to send line item 9.10 to form a
[1:55:59] with the recommendation to approve.
[1:56:01] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[1:56:05] Without objection, I'd like to combine line items 9.11 and 9.13.
[1:56:12] Line item 9.11 is a settlement request and lawsuit of
[1:56:17] Shanta Brooks versus City of Detroit at all case number two four dash 0 0 0 0 6 8 3 dash in F
[1:56:26] in the amount of 85 thousand dollars and line item 9.13 is a settlement request
[1:56:37] in lawsuit of Metro Durable Medical Supply LLC and for transport ink on behalf of Shanta Brooks
[1:56:46] For a total amount of $21,000, colleagues, is there a motion to approve or discuss?
[1:56:55] There's a motion to send line items 9.11 and 9.13 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[1:57:06] Here we know objections. Those action shall be taken.
[1:57:12] line item 9.12 is a settlement request and lawsuit of
[1:57:19] Tremaine Ross versus city of Detroit case number two four dash zero zero four four
[1:57:24] two five dash in F and the amount of $14,000 is there a motion.
[1:57:32] Motion to approve. There's a motion to send line item 9.12 to
[1:57:36] formal with recommendation to approve. Here are no objections that action shall be
[1:57:42] Take a line item 9.14 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Amma Jazeal Martin versus City of Detroit at all case number two four dash one two zero eight three this is for the police department in the amount of two hundred thousand dollars is their emotion to approve or discuss.
[1:58:07] Motion to approve.
[1:58:09] Do the chair.
[1:58:11] Attorney Anderson.
[1:58:12] Discussion?
[1:58:13] There was a script nurse air on the settlement resolution and I have that for distribution.
[1:58:18] It was just a small one but I would just like to make that noted to move this as amended.
[1:58:24] All right.
[1:58:25] Thank you.
[1:58:25] Thank you.
[1:58:26] There is a motion to send line at a 9.14 to formal as amended with a recommendation
[1:58:34] to approve.
[1:58:35] Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[1:58:43] Line item 9.15
[1:58:50] is a settlement request and lawsuit of Dorothy McElwara and Diane Davis
[1:58:56] versus City of Detroit.
[1:59:01] This is for the municipal parking department in the
[1:59:08] $255,000
[1:59:18] colleagues is their emotion
[1:59:21] to approve or discuss this question, Madam Chair.
[1:59:24] Discussion, Member Calloway.
[1:59:25] Is there anyone available from municipal parking department?
[1:59:36] Through the chair, we do not have a representative available, but I can't take down the question.
[1:59:42] And say the back seat of the department.
[1:59:43] Whether or not this employee is still employed, drive in a vehicle.
[1:59:52] Bring it back.
[1:59:54] I think you're not unsure, yes.
[1:59:55] I will reach out to the department now and see if I can get a response.
[2:00:06] We can bring it back after recess.
[2:00:16] Member Kelleway is there a motion to bring this line item back after recess.
[2:00:26] There
[2:00:29] is a motion to bring line item 9.15 back after recess, hearing objections that action shall be taken.
[2:00:41] line item 9.16 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Anthony Hunter at all versus city of Detroit at all.
[2:00:53] Case number two four dash zero one one five four seven dash in I.
[2:00:58] This is for the Department of Transportation in the amount of twenty seven thousand five hundred dollars.
[2:01:05] Is there emotion to approve.
[2:01:08] There's a motion to send line item 9.16 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[2:01:15] Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[2:01:22] Line item 9.17
[2:01:28] submitting resolution authorization for supplemental checks for city retirees and beneficiaries.
[2:01:39] This is the budgeted $10 million appropriation to fund supplemental checks for city retirees and beneficiaries.
[2:01:52] There's a motion to send line item 9.17 to formal with the recommendation to approve.
[2:01:59] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[2:02:06] Line item 9.18
[2:02:11] is a resolution authorization to implement the 2020-2028 Labor Agreement
[2:02:20] for employees represented by Michigan Building and Construction Trades Council.
[2:02:33] Alice is there a motion.
[2:02:36] Motion to approve.
[2:02:39] There is a motion to send line item 9.18 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
[2:02:48] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[2:02:53] line item 9.19 is a request to amend the 2025-2026 official compensation schedule
[2:03:05] for the
[2:03:06] position of for the classification of property assessing technician within the office of the
[2:03:15] chief financial officer, valuation and field operations division.
[2:03:27] Calis is there a motion to approve or discuss.
[2:03:32] Motion to approve.
[2:03:34] There's a motion to send line item 9.19 to formal with recommendation to approve.
[2:03:41] Here you know objections that action shall be taken.
[2:03:46] Line item 9.20 submitted report relative to the Office of the Inspector General
[2:03:52] 2,025 second quarter report is there a motion to receive in file or discuss motion to receive in file.
[2:04:02] There's a motion to receive in file line item 9.20. Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[2:04:17] Line item 9.21 submitting report relative to potential conflicts.
[2:04:27] Is there a motion to receive and file line item 9.21?
[2:04:32] Motion to receive and file.
[2:04:33] Here we know objections that action shall be taken.
[2:04:43] Line item 9.22.
[2:04:46] Submitting memorandum relative to legal opinion regarding conflicts.
[2:04:57] Motion to receive and file.
[2:05:01] This is actually the information that we're waiting
[2:05:04] to receive from the law department for the chair and of the week.
[2:05:21] It has not been received, is there a motion to bring this item back after recess motion?
[2:05:30] Here are no objections that action shall be taken.
[2:05:34] Still noting that we're looking to get the response by the end of the week.
[2:05:38] Thank you.
[2:05:39] the Attorney Anderson. All right, we're going back to line item 8.6.
[2:05:50] And there is Mr.
[2:05:51] Emory. Through the chair, I did pull. I did pull the supervisor report on this crash.
[2:05:58] And our member did have their lights and silence active when this collision occurred.
[2:06:07] Thank you, Mr. Emory. I am not certain who provides the information to us for review.
[2:06:13] But would like to understand how we have information that is contradictory to what you're sharing now.
[2:06:23] I can work with Mr. Washington to figure that out.
[2:06:27] Okay. Thank you. Member Callaway.
[2:06:36] All right. Thank you, colleagues.
[2:06:38] Is there a motion online item 8.6?
[2:06:44] There's a motion to send line item 8.6 to formal with recommendation to approve, here
[2:06:51] we know objections that action shall be taken.
[2:06:58] I do just want to say, Mr. Washington,
[2:07:03] we make decisions based on information that's
[2:07:06] provided to us.
[2:07:07] So, let's be sure the information is accurate because once it gets through formal,
[2:07:19] there's not a lot we can do.
[2:07:22] Sure.
[2:07:24] All right, thank you.
[2:07:26] Mr. Clerk, we have made it through the agenda.
[2:07:30] Yes, we are.
[2:07:31] Okay, thank you.
[2:07:32] All right, that now brings us two member reports.
[2:07:36] Member Vice Chair Waters.
[2:07:39] No report.
[2:07:41] All right.
[2:07:41] Thank you.
[2:07:42] Member Kalwa.
[2:07:42] Yes.
[2:07:43] Thank you, Madam Chair.
[2:07:44] One announcement.
[2:07:45] We will be hosting our third annual stamping out human trafficking.
[2:07:50] This Saturday at Maca Live, which is located at 3746 Fisher Street.
[2:07:55] Saturday, July 26.
[2:07:58] And we're trying to rotate where we hold it.
[2:08:00] We held it at Palmer Park one year, which is the west side.
[2:08:04] and then we hold it on at alternative for girls,
[2:08:07] which is some consider southwest Detroit.
[2:08:09] And now we're holding on the east side
[2:08:11] because it's not a west side issue.
[2:08:13] It is a city side citywide issue with human trafficking.
[2:08:17] So we are just going from area to area each year
[2:08:22] that we hold our rally.
[2:08:24] We're calling all Detroit community members,
[2:08:26] join us for our third annual awareness
[2:08:28] and outreach event as we tackle the issue of human trafficking,
[2:08:32] head on equipping community members
[2:08:33] families with the knowledge to prevent, intervene, and get help, all while taking
[2:08:38] steps together towards building a stronger, safer Detroit. We will gather for an
[2:08:43] informative, engaging forum about the realities of human trafficking. We'll be
[2:08:48] talking to folks who engage in this body of work and those who are survivors.
[2:08:54] They have very, very impactful testimonies, and we want our families to come out to listen
[2:09:02] them and to get to know them. They're wonderful group of folks who have managed to survive being
[2:09:07] human traffic from a very early age. We will have resource tables, we'll have food, snacks,
[2:09:14] bouncy house music, and more in it's all free. It will start at 11 a.m. and end at 3 p.m. so again, that is
[2:09:22] our third annual stamping out human trafficking at Macalive 3746 Fisher July 26 this Saturday and
[2:09:32] from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. and if you want more information you can call our office at 2-2-445-35. Thank you,
[2:09:38] Moucher. Thank you.
[2:09:43] All right, and I just want to remind everyone and invite you all to join us on
[2:09:49] July 31st. We are having our next bike ride. Starting at the Bada Park, right across the street from
[2:09:58] the bike shop bike tech on Eastmore and Canyon located at 1-8-4-0-1 Eastmore on July 31,
[2:10:09] which is a Thursday, our meet-up time is at 5.30pm.
[2:10:15] We are planning to ride to from Balduck Park to Chandler Park,
[2:10:19] our two major parks in the district, while also stopping by some new improved lighting
[2:10:27] on East Morn and so I just want to kind of showcase things that are happening, the infrastructure projects that we have going on to improve the community.
[2:10:37] Again, that is Thursday, July 31st, meet up at 530, we will start writing right around 6 o'clock.
[2:10:45] Meet up at Baldug Park across from Bike Tech, address 18401 East Morn, and look forward to seeing you all there.
[2:10:54] Thank you. That is all that I have. If there is nothing further to come before us we shall stand adjourned without objection.