[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] I'm Scott Benson. I've been tonight. House of member Renata Miller. Mr. Chair, you have a [0:05] quorum present. Thank you, ma'am. I'm, uh, clerk. Um, member Miller is on her way. She [0:11] will be running away when she's on her way. Is there a motion to approve the minutes? [0:14] Motion. Motion made are any objections? Here are none minutes to prove. Chair Marks, it is my [0:21] chief of staff and my mother and I recalibrate birthday. So happy birthday to her. We have [0:26] cake and cupcakes and chicken outside if you want it so I just wanted to say the [0:31] best there is the best there was the best is ever gonna be and the best chief [0:34] of staff of my lifetime and ever happy birthday to my mother everything I have [0:40] hold and am is because of my dear sweet angel mother all right we will now move [0:45] on to public comment how many people do we have in the queue mr. bow for [0:51] public comment we [0:58] currently have two individuals hands raised for public [1:01] comment. All right, two individuals. All right. Public comment is now closed. Public [1:07] comment is now closed. Public comment is now closed. All right. Who do you have first in [1:15] the queue, Mr. Bo? [1:19] Mr. Chair, the first caller is Betty A. Barnard. [1:21] All right, Ms. Barnard, floor is yours. Two minutes. [1:25] Good afternoon, tall. Within the sound of my voice, I'm Betty A. Barnard, president [1:29] of the Soda-Elsworth Black Association. Again, want to give a special thanks to you, Pro Tem, [1:37] for reaching out, having me to contact your staff, your loving staff who has helped me get [1:44] going through this process of getting my property repaired. It's not repaired yet, but I did [1:55] speak to the director of BCD and also a project manager from the major contracting company [2:04] did come out to my house. [2:06] So hopefully they tell me there's going to be a meeting and hopefully the right decision [2:12] is made and my property is repaired. [2:14] Also, I want to give a special thanks to your mom. [2:17] Happy happy happy birthday and thank you for reaching out to me and assisting me [2:23] through this process. Pro Tem, I love you and your team. You got one of the best [2:30] teams here in the City of Detroit and kudos to them. I say it publicly. They [2:37] have really really helped me not just with this situation but I receive so much [2:43] kind loving and respect when I attend your meetings and I appreciate it. We're [2:49] still looking for assistance for our event. That's August 1st. We are needing [2:56] volunteers. We need people to help us break down our tents, etc. Also, we have [3:04] been blessed. We're going to receive some additional school supplies and hygiene [3:10] products but it's going to be really really late close to our event. We are [3:16] not complaining. We really are blessed, but we're going to need people to help us get the [3:21] kids together that day, that morning. So thank you and happy, happy, happy, happy, happy birthday [3:27] again. I wish you many, many... Well, thank you so much. We appreciate that. Love you and [3:34] appreciate you. Thank you so much for saying that, Ms. Varner. Who do you have next to the queue? [3:39] Mr. Bell? Mr. Chair, the next caller ends in five, three, four. [3:43] All right, five, three, four, floor is yours, two minutes, five, three, four. [3:55] Yes, you may. [3:57] I [4:19] want to thank member Miller for [4:37] that. [4:38] We don't want to plan to [4:46] go that. [4:50] Treasurer asked planned people if they would meet with our block club, and they said no. [4:56] Yet they've been meeting with stakeholders that Ms. Conakie would not reveal to me. [5:01] She said, can you suggest some stakeholders like seniors or youth? [5:05] I said, how about residents in the neighborhoods where they live? [5:08] We are the stakeholders. [5:09] And the few meetings that the rest of us have had, unlike the master plan advisory group [5:15] selected, unelected, and the secretive stakeholders, or secret stakeholders, he won't reveal [5:21] the stakeholders. [5:26] They didn't even explain to us what the current master plan is and whether it's been [5:30] achieved and whether we'd want to change something. [5:33] So I also commend Member Miller for speaking up against the Six Text Amendment that should [5:38] absolutely not be done it needs to be broken into smaller pieces and none of [5:43] that rezoning should be happening before a more include [5:56] also Lake Health and because [5:59] I spoke with Mr. Siderick White. We appreciate you thank you so much for [6:03] your call. Is that all the people we have in the queue Mr. Bell? [6:09] Mr. Chair that [6:10] was the last caller before you close public comment. Alright thank you sir [6:14] we appreciate that we will now move on to line item 5.1 some mini-memorandum [6:23] relative to the rent escrow process motion discussed line of 5.1 motion is [6:31] there any update on this at all Phil Keller LPD to pro tempore young we [6:39] are requesting this be brought back after recess we're just awaiting some [6:43] information from the administration. Okay as was their motion to bring back line [6:47] of 5.1 after recess? Motion. Motion has been made. Are there any objections here in [6:52] line of 5.1 be brought back after recess? Moved on a new business mayor's office [6:57] petition of the Caribbean cultural and carnival organization request to hold [7:01] the 28th annual Caribbean and cultural festival on August 29, 2026 for 3 p.m. [7:07] until 10 p.m. on the same day at Mary Grove College set up will begin at [7:12] 1 p.m. on August 29, 2026, complete by 3 p.m. on the same day. Teardown will begin at 10 p.m. on [7:20] August 29, 2026, complete by 11 p.m. the same day. Is there a motion to move line on 6.1 to [7:26] formal session with recommendation for approval? You put on a new business. Motion. Motion made [7:30] already objections. Here in the line on 6.1 we move the formal session with recommendation [7:34] for approval. You put on a new business. Line on 6.2, protection of Detroit Auto Dealers [7:40] Association request to hold the cars at the station, cats on September 11, [7:45] 2026 from 10 a.m. until 9 p.m. on September 12, 2026 at Roosevelt Park [7:51] slash Michigan Central Station, so that we'll begin at 8 a.m. on September 10, [7:55] 2026, complete by 10 a.m. on September 11, 2026. [7:59] Did that one begin at 11 p.m. on September 12, 2026 and complete by 8 p.m. [8:04] on September 13, 2026. [8:07] Is there a motion to send Lionel 6.2 to formal session with record age for approval be put [8:12] on to do business? [8:13] Motion. [8:13] Motion made. [8:14] Are there any objections? [8:15] Here in Lionel 6.2 we move to formal session with record age for approval be put on to [8:20] do business. [8:21] Lionel 6.3, petition of Dr. Ossian H. Sweets Foundation request to hold the Dr. [8:35] Ossian [8:35] from 12 p.m. until 4 p.m. on the same day at the intersection of Garland and [8:40] Charlevoix. Set it will begin at 5 p.m. on September 11, 2026, complete by 10 a.m. [8:45] on September 12, 2026. Teardown will begin at 4 p.m. on September 12, 2026, it [8:50] be completed by 7 p.m. on the same day. Is that a motion to move line on 6.3 to [8:53] formal session with record dates for approval of new business? Motion. Motion [8:58] made on the objections. Here in line 6.3 moved formal session with [9:03] recognition for approving for a new business. Live 6.4, potential of East [9:08] Ward Development Corps request to hold the East Ward Development Corps on [9:12] September 19, 2026 from 12 p.m. to 9 p.m. on the same day at 1-6-8-3-5, East [9:18] Ward Senate will begin at 8 a.m. on September 9, 2026 and complete by 11 [9:23] p.m. the same day. Teardown will begin at 9 p.m. on September 19, 2026 and be [9:29] You can believe by 11 p.m. on the same day. [9:33] Is there a motion to move Lionel 6.4 to formal session [9:36] with recommendation for approval to be put onto new business? [9:39] Motion. [9:40] Motion made our objections. [9:43] Here in Lionel 6.4, we move to formal session [9:45] with recommendation for approval [9:46] to be put onto new business. [9:48] Lionel 6.5, petition of Kiana Siemens, Taylor [9:52] Hurrell, and Rashawn Saunders request [9:55] to hold for the love of the east side on September 19, 2026 from 9 a.m. until 4 p.m. on the same day [10:03] at Matrix Center. G7 footprint set up will begin at 6 a.m. on September 9, 2026. It will be by 8 a.m. [10:10] on the same day. Teardown will begin at 5 p.m. on September 19, 2026. It will be by 6 p.m. on [10:16] the same day. Is there a motion to see in line on 6.5 the formal session with recommendation [10:21] for approval will be put onto new business. Motion. Motion made our [10:25] objections. Here in the live 6.5 we moved a formal session with [10:29] recommendations for approval will be put onto new business. Live 6.6 [10:32] Patricia Lisa L. Carter requests to hold the Hungry Black Man Food Festival on [10:38] August 30, 2026 from 12 p.m. to 8 p.m. on the same day at Palmer Park. [10:43] So it will begin at 6 a.m. on August 30, 2020, complete by 11 a.m. on the [10:48] same day. Take that one begin on 8 p.m. August 30, 2020, since you plead by 10 p.m. [10:54] on the same day. In that motion, move line of 6.6 to formal session with [10:58] recommendation for approval be put onto new business. Motion made on [11:02] objections. Here in line of 6.6, we move the formal session with [11:06] recommendation for approval be put onto new business. Line of 6.7, a petition [11:10] of IBEW Local 58 to request the labor hold the Labor Day March on September [11:15] September 7th, 2026, from 7 a.m. until 3 p.m. on the same day at the [11:19] Quartown neighborhood, Bishop's Avenue, Slash, Roosevelt Park. [11:23] Set-up will begin at 5 p.m. on September 6th and be complete by [11:27] 9 p.m. on the same day. Take-down will begin at 2 a.m. on September [11:31] 7th, 2026, complete by 4 p.m. on the same day. Their emotions [11:35] are seeing a lot of 6.7 in the formal session with the recognition for approval we put onto [11:39] new business. Motion made on the objections. [11:43] Here in the Live 6.7 Mood Formal Session with recognition for approval for a new business. [11:47] Live 6.8. [11:49] Petition of Detroit Music. [11:52] Request to hold the Fells Fest on September 19, 2026 from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. on the same day at 9,000 Oakland. [11:59] The setup will begin at 8 a.m. on September 19, 2026 completed by 2 p.m. on the same day. [12:06] Tear down beginning at 7 p.m. on September 19, 2026 completed by 10 p.m. on the same day. [12:10] Is there a motion to send line of 6.8 formal session with recommendation for approval onto [12:16] new business? [12:17] Motion. [12:18] Motion to demand early injections. [12:20] Here in line of 6.8 we move the formal session with recommendation for approval to be put [12:24] onto new business. [12:25] Moving to Office of Contract and Procurement, line of 6.9 contracts 67536, 100% special [12:32] revenue funding to provide, install, configure and support a fully integrated [12:37] Server Infrastructure. Contractor, Great Lakes Multimedia Supply Incorporated. [12:46] Location 1307 Allen, Suite D, Troy, Michigan, 48083. Contract Period Proceeds [12:53] Council Approval for a period of five years, so contract amount $781,934.00 [12:59] and zero cents. You have motion to send line on 6.9 in the formal session with [13:03] recommendation for approval for new business. Motion. Motion made our [13:08] suggestions. Here now at 6.9 we move to formal session with [13:12] recommendation for approval we pull onto new business. [13:22] Discussion chair [13:23] recognized member Benson. I'd like to bring up 6.9 if I'm not mistaken. Is that [13:27] who we have here today? [13:32] They made their way up here. Oh you oh did you want to [13:34] speak to I thought I thought you guys do but I'd like to public to know what's [13:37] going on here. Okay I thought you guys later on I thought you were gonna [13:40] to speak to 6.11. Go ahead. [13:44] Discussion, Mr. Chair? [13:45] Yeah, go ahead. Discussion. [13:47] What do we have here? What are you all doing? Why is this important? [13:54] This [13:56] is important to upgrade the infrastructure for broadcasts. [14:02] Tell us more about that. [14:03] Um, well, we, our system is aging and we have outages. [14:09] We have things where the, um, captions don't work or, um, the picture is not there. [14:17] And this will help us upgrade the system entirely. [14:20] I don't think it's been upgraded. [14:21] Uh, it's been over 10 years since it's been upgraded. [14:24] What system are we talking about here? [14:25] So get, so the public understand what we're doing. [14:28] This is also based at a troll. [14:30] Before we have a colleague who does not like to send money outside the city of Detroit, [14:33] we need to talk about that as well. [14:35] Just give us the information so we can make sure that our colleagues in the other offices [14:39] have this. [14:40] So when we go to the table on Tuesday, it's not a big fight, although maybe a little one. [14:44] Okay. [14:44] The infrastructure system for the city's four government cable channels 10, 21, 22, [14:51] and 68. [14:52] The contract includes a new server infrastructure, broadcast automation, live streaming, video [14:57] on demand, close captioning. [15:00] I'm going to take a legal translation, backup in archival system, software licensing, ongoing [15:05] maintenance and technical support. [15:07] Sounds like a lot. [15:09] That's a lot. [15:10] So this is a close $800,000 contract over a five-year period. [15:16] Yes. [15:16] So what are we getting for this, our money? [15:18] Are we getting support? If it breaks, are we going to give us a new one? [15:22] Yep, you do. You get support if it breaks down. You get ongoing service. [15:26] This ongoing service and support, ongoing service and support, if it breaks down, we get an [15:34] upgrade, a total upgrade of the entire system. [15:38] Our infrastructure has been aging and we've been having issues with playback and the automation. [15:46] So this system will help to make sure that it works. [15:51] I know council have had concerns with their council corners. [15:58] We'll be able to upload lots more council corners. [16:00] We will not have to delete some to put some up there, but it will be able to hold many [16:06] more of your council corners as well. [16:09] What's the current status of our infrastructure now? [16:12] It's aging. [16:13] That's the current status. [16:14] It's aging. [16:15] It breaks down a lot. [16:16] We have a lot of repairs come up each week. [16:19] We know you all have complained about the system, and we have been working hard to get [16:24] those fixed, but we need the – it's come time that we need to upgrade the system. [16:28] If we don't approve this contract, what happens? [16:30] The system may fail, and we may – [16:33] Oh, what happened then? [16:34] And then we may not be able to recover. [16:37] You mean recover? [16:37] It's already there, meaning that if it breaks down, it will break down, and we [16:41] will have to upgrade it. [16:42] So we're trying to avoid having to break down. [16:45] And the constant – [16:46] TV will we have cable channel no you will dark yeah so without this upgrade we [16:52] would go dark yes okay thank you I appreciate that also I just wanted to [16:58] say Deputy Director Cochran thank you for joining us I just also want to ask you [17:01] also to avoid the cost of that I mean I'm assuming going you know it would be [17:05] each cheaper for us to maintain or to build out that would for us to go dark [17:08] and they have to rebuild you know that after we went dark I think the cost [17:12] be exorbitant. Yeah and if we if we go dark we'll lose our peg funding. Okay. [17:18] Lose our who funding? Peg funding. Peg funding. Oh that's important. Yeah. All [17:24] right. Motion was already made for that so thank you very much. Alyssa, because [17:28] this is the only contract you're here for, correct? Yes, correct. You're not [17:31] here for the okay. I thought you're here for the right production, my bad. [17:33] All right, thank you. I appreciate it. Okay, thank you. Have a good day. All [17:38] All right, we are now on Lionel 6.10, right? [17:43] You've also been joined by the old Budzman as well. [17:49] Is there a specific reason? [17:51] Okay, I'll just let me, I'll let you know. [17:53] Okay, I don't wanna say something, we did, or okay. [17:56] I don't wish for a thing with it. [17:57] Oh, okay, to Ms. Calvert, okay. [18:00] Yeah, make sure you get some cakes, go cakes, all right. [18:03] Hello, Madam old Budzman. [18:04] Oh yeah, good to see you, though. [18:06] make sure we didn't do that. All right. I don't get me in trouble. All right. Office of Chief [18:14] Finance, the Office of the Chief Financial Officer slash Office of Development and Grants submitting [18:21] report relative report submitting for all donated assets accepted to improve existing [18:27] city of Detroit parks and facilities for calendar year 2026 quarter number two the Office of [18:34] Development and grants in partnership with the General Services Department received authorization from the Detroit City Council to accept [18:43] donated assets to improve [18:45] Existing city Detroit parks on a rolling basis [18:48] There are no cat match requirements for these non cash donations [18:52] The resolution was approved on September 20th. No September 22nd [18:57] 2020. The approved resolution only applies to non-cash assets that were valued under $25,000. [19:05] Do I have a motion to send Line Out 6.10 to formal session? [19:07] Will the recommendation for approval be put on to new business? [19:10] Motion. [19:11] Motion to amend early objections. [19:13] Here in Line Out 6.10, we move to formal session with the recommendation for approval to put on to new business. [19:17] Is this a chance? [19:18] Yes. [19:19] This is a report. [19:21] Yes. [19:21] This may be receiving files. [19:23] Oh, we received a file that we don't, okay, you know what it was, I saw the size of it [19:28] and I thought, because it was so voluminous, we'd have to report this out to the court and [19:31] say, okay, that's my file. [19:32] Okay, so do I have to withdraw them, do I have to withdraw the motion? [19:35] Motion received in file. [19:36] Okay. [19:37] I don't have to withdraw the previous one or the same motion received in file. [19:40] The motion had already been made. [19:44] Dr. Powers, I was just getting ready to call you. [19:49] It was misspoken. It should have been a receiving file, so it wasn't a proper motion. You're fine. [19:54] Excellent. Thank you. A motion to receive a file. Are there any objections? Hearing none. [20:02] Most of the line on 6.10 to receive the file. Thank you, Ben and Clerk. Thank you, Dr. Powers. [20:06] All right. General Services Department, Line on 6.11, Amendment No. 4, Professional Services Contract, [20:13] the right productions. The City of Troy General Services Department City [20:17] submits for consideration by this honorable body to enclose resolution to [20:21] support the authorization to enter into amendment number four of [20:25] the professional services contract with the right productions to continue the operation [20:29] and management of the Aretha Franklin Amphitheater located 2600 [20:33] Atwater Street, Troy, Michigan for a 2017 RP having a long [20:37] turn operator and possessing technical skills and prior business knowledge [20:41] to support the continued operation for and the improvements of the amphitheater [20:45] for the benefit of the City of Detroit and the general public. Is there a motion [20:49] discussed line on 6.11? Motion. Motion. I remember Vincent, did you have some [20:53] questions or something you want to ask? I do. So if anybody can come on, I also [20:57] would like to bring this back. Just don't have a deeper dive in this. This is [21:00] a huge asset which we never really get to talk about. This is a major [21:04] entertainment venue on the river owned by the City of Detroit and I think we [21:08] need to have a greater discussion. [21:10] I understand this is an extension [21:13] that will be for six years, [21:16] but just coming today with the expectation [21:18] that we move this out and approve it, [21:21] I'm just not comfortable with that. [21:23] I do wanna know what are we getting here [21:24] and why the need for this four-year extension? [21:29] Ms. Sullivan. [21:31] Through the chair, good afternoon. [21:33] We have Alex Weatherup with us. [21:35] All right, Mr. Weatherup, go ahead, sir. [21:50] The motor's on him now. [21:51] There [22:00] we are. Good afternoon. Alex Weather, Assistant Director of General Services. [22:04] All right. Good to see you, sir. [22:06] You as well. Through the chair to Member Benson, just kind of talking through what this amendment is. [22:13] So it is an extension. It's a five-year extension. It was going to expire in 27, so six years from now. [22:19] and what we're doing is writing into the contract a schedule for regular [22:26] maintenance items that we want to see performed regularly as well as some [22:30] capital improvement item with a schedule and when we expect them to be done as [22:35] well as some increased reporting from them how many tickets are sold for each [22:42] of that how much money you make in any other revenue and so while we've been [22:47] able to get this information in the past this just explicates and kind of sets [22:52] out better expectations of what we want and when we want it and it also allows [22:56] the the right productions is going to be investing in a new ticketing system and [23:01] a new POS system that will allow them to better report out to us so this [23:05] amendment just covers all those when we expect them to be occur and what we [23:10] expect in return. Okay thank you so I'd like to have a conversation with [23:14] productions part of this as well than actually have a look at what our asset looks like before [23:21] this one also. [23:22] And what's the plan for 2032 when this proposed extension expires? [23:31] We'll meet with our partners in law and procurement and determine if a re-bid is in the best [23:35] interest of the city or another extension. [23:37] Okay. [23:38] Thank you. [23:39] Yeah. [23:41] All right. [23:41] Any other questions? [23:43] Okay. [23:44] Okay, most has been made to bring back line I-06.11 after recess. [23:50] Are there any objections? [23:53] Here none, line I-06.11 be brought back after recess. [23:57] Thank you very much, Mr. Weatherup. [23:59] All right, now we move on to Miscellaneous. [24:01] Councilmember Garriela Santiago-Romero. [24:05] Summoning random relative to motorcycle gatherings at and around Roosevelt Park. [24:10] work. There has been a request to bring this line item back after recess. Is there a motion [24:16] to bring back line item 6.12 after recess? Motion. Discussion. Motion made. Discussion. [24:23] Chair recognizes member Benson. Through yourself, Team Administration, this type of activity [24:28] is something that my office has really been concerned about as well. Who is going to [24:32] be meeting? It looks like this went out to the chief. Just want to verify that [24:37] the chief is responding and ensuring that there is a quality of life issue that's [24:42] going to be addressed here. Through the chair we do expect the response much [24:47] sooner than recess we just put that date due to the committee not convening [24:52] until the 10th. Okay all right thank you. [24:57] All right excellent emotions have been made [24:59] so we will now move on the line on 6.13 submitting random requesting that [25:04] their legislative policy division prepared ordinance amendment to update [25:07] the city's rental compliance ordinance to reflect the appropriate department responsible for administering [25:12] rent escrow payments for tenants residing in rental properties that are not in compliance [25:18] with applicable housing requirements. Will the clerk please note that we have been joined by [25:23] Member Miller? A motion discussed, line up 6.13. [25:26] discussion before we go there, Mr. Chair, I wanted to discuss a message to member Gabriel [25:36] Santiago Meryl's office, please alert this committee to the resolution to line item 6.12 [25:43] once that happens to that staff. Thank you. [25:50] Absolutely. All right. All right. The Chair recognized member Miller. Are you ready [25:55] to discuss line 6.13? [25:56] Thank you to the chair, Pro Tem. Good morning, everyone. How are you? I was at the retirees [26:01] luncheon and it was an amazing event to see all of our city Detroit workers. And I just [26:06] want to give a special shout out to our retirees that continue to push for advocacy for the [26:13] return of funds lost during bankruptcy. According to 6.13, through the chair, I just want our [26:19] colleagues, this is a straightforward housekeeping amendment to ensure that rental compliance, [26:23] the ordinance reflects how the city actually operates today. [26:27] The ordinance currently identifies BC as a Department [26:30] responsible for administering rent escrow payments. [26:32] But the responsibilities have since transitioned to the Health, [26:37] Human and Family Resources Department. [26:39] If our ordinances are outdated, it creates unnecessary confusion [26:43] for residents who are simply trying to comply with the law. [26:46] I'm also requesting that the ordinance specify the exact office location, [26:49] including the office number and floor in the common area municipal center where [26:54] residents must submit their rent escrow payments the amendment will improve [26:57] transparency eliminate confusion and make it easier for detour to navigate [27:01] their rent escrow process all right excellent um a member visited anybody [27:09] do you have any questions coming to concerns on this at all okay to lpd where [27:15] Where are we with this and what would you request we do with this? [27:19] Yes, to pro-temporary young, we're asking that this be brought back after recess and [27:23] we will provide a response shortly. [27:26] Excellent. [27:27] Okay. [27:29] Is there a motion to bring back line on 6.13 after recess? [27:32] Motion. [27:33] Motion made early objections. [27:35] Here and now we will bring back line on 6.13 after recess. [27:38] We will now go to member reports. [27:40] Chair recognizes Vice Chairman Benson. [27:43] No report. [27:44] Happy recess. [27:44] No report had to recess. [27:46] Chair Recognizing Maureen Miller. [27:47] Tomorrow, we're having a morning mingle, which [27:50] is July 24th at the Anthrology Coffee Shop [27:54] at 1948 Davis Division Street. [27:57] That's Anthrology Coffee at 4948 Division Street. [28:01] And next week, we're having our District 5 community meeting [28:05] on the 29th of July from 6 to 8, [28:08] the Hellenmore Community Center. [28:10] That's at 11825 Dexter. [28:12] Again, that's our District 5 community meeting [28:14] on the 29th of July at the Hellenmore Rec Center on Dexter. [28:17] Thank you, through the chair. [28:19] All right, everyone, I just wanted to say a happy break [28:22] and this will be the last neighborhood community services [28:25] committee before we come back on break. [28:27] So always a pleasure to work with you, [28:28] all the professionals here. [28:30] Be safe and God bless and we will see you after recess. [28:34] And on Tuesday, Tuesday will be the last day. [28:37] All right, without gesture, [28:38] neighborhood community services standing committee [28:40] will now stand adjourned.