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you're recording also on how you

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and zoom uh yeah yes i can hit record i

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can just record

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and we're also live on youtube mr chair

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i'm gonna call this uh meeting to order

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at six o'clock on june 16th

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our next barter selections meeting is

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june 23rd at 6 00 pm it's going to be

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next door

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not here this is audio and video

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uh it'll be put on channel 9 at some

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in the very near future it's also live

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on youtube

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and it's going to be a zoom meeting also

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so could everybody stand

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for the pledge of the allegiance states of america and

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to the republic

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for which it stands one nation under god

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indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all

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thank you

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the first agenda item is on the new

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business is

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review discuss and act on a host

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community agreement bureau oasis llc did

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everybody have an opportunity to

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take a look at that agreement yes and

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does anybody have any

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uh questions about that this is uh very

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similar to the one that we

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signed the last time but the difference

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is that this is just

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cultivation it's not manufacturing not

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making edibles or anything like that

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uh i'm not sure it's a question but more

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a comment i just wanted to give a kudos

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on the 25 000 upfront

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payment i know it's deducted from the

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three percent

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um impact fee that's imposed um if we

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sign this

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on uh pure oasis but i really

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appreciated that

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it's in accordance with the other ones

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that we did so i just wanted to

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thank you thank you dr

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if yes simply slip and hold i was just

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looking for an update in regards to

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whether or not this has gone before the

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planning board of the zba

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as of yet no it it hasn't okay so

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normally uh

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because they're in the process of doing

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this this is the host agreement

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obviously if they don't purchase the

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building they don't start the cultivation that kind of stuff this

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won't apply

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but they still got several hurdles um

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and you know zba is one of them as well

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as the uh the planning board

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uh i don't know if there's any other

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committees but uh thank you

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it's gonna be sooner rather than later

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in the public obviously we'll be

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notified

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to be posted as well as the abutters

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to 1620 spring street so for the public

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this is for 1620 spring street this is

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uh the old raytheon it's been called and

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there's a plan uh six twenty six twenty right six six twenty spring

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street what did i say

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sixteen oh actually that's someone's

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house played that tape back

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that's why i said six twenty but anyway

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620 uh spring street

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and there's a group of people that want

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to cultivate marijuana there not to

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manufacture not to

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make any products out of it but they're

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going to cultivate and they will sell it

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to different businesses

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uh around here and further away and not

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to sell it either

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yeah they're gonna sell it to uh

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as a wholesale item to other uh other

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uh dispensaries and they they also have

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a dispensary in dorchester so they'll be

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making the

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growing the product here and

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manufacturing here then

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i'll bring it to their dispensary i

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believe it's in dorchester

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i'll entertain a motion there there's no

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further questions before i make a motion

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i do have one last question

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um the annual payment of the community

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impact fee is doable

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due and payable no later than 90 days

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from the close of the calendar year

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um i assume that's once they're up and

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running right

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yes yes uh yeah like the agreement is

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would commence when i'm out i'm actually

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when the company obtains

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um a license um and they're approved

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to begin operations by the cannabis

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i uh yeah by the cannabis i control

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commission okay

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so yeah like it would start then at that

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point but they need to have this in

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place in order to go

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so in order to go forward through the

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state and the state agencies as well

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uh he has to begin the planning oh you

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i like actually like a process where the

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planning brought through the special

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appointment process as well

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thank you yep it's like now this

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25 000 payment does not

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or does include all permitting fees

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that's nothing to do with the uh

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permitting fees no so this uh

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they they have to pay unless they're

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waived all fees they still expect

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along with paying real estate taxes uh

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personal uh personal taxes they have to

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uh that twenty five thousand separate

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that's a part of that three percent

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so if it comes out that they at the end

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of a calendar year they always

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a hundred thousand dollars they've

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already given us the 25 so we're getting

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up front of this advantage for the uh

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for the time thank you

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so i'll still entertain a motion mr

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chairman i motion that we

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approve the host community agreement

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between the town of dayton and pure

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oasis llc

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uh as presented and amended this evening

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just so the public knows they had a

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virtual meeting uh last thursday

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that the public was invited to and

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people a lot of people from

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the public ask questions about it so the

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neighbors and

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so people know what's going on is there

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any further discussion on the motion

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if not i'll ask for a vote all those in

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favor say

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i i i oppose

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abstentions the eyes haven't the next

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item

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uh is review discuss and act on

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disclosure

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by non-elected municipal employee

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building commissioner jim aguiar

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we were giving a uh the disclosure by

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uh jamaica he's the building

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commissioner

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and he uh has had some involvement with

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uh and we'll discuss that as the next

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item uh with the libraries the different

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possibilities

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um that we will be doing with the

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library

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leasing building whatever and

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because he uh owns property in dayton

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that may become

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a property that we may lease

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he's bringing this to our attention that

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so we have three options we can either

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allow vote to allow him to proceed we

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can vote to proceed

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up until the point that we uh have a rfp

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is put out or we can ask that he recused

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himself for the whole process

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so um any questions from

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um my only question is would the vote be

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exclude him from the municipal building

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study committee or would this be

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strictly

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uh regarding the library i believe it's

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begun in the library

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because there's no other uh conflict or

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whatever you want to call a conflict

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uh with anything else that that group is

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i have no further questions we have any

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no idea so i'll express

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uh my personal feelings we ought to

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allow him to proceed with this process

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up until

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uh any point the rfp is put out

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so we have three options we can just uh

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let him proceed

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and fully participate in whatever

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process we're gonna do

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with the library we can tell him that he

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got to recuse himself and he has nothing

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to do with it or we can

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let him proceed until we get to the

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point where we got rfp out there and

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if his business he has a partner if his

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business

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wishes to be one of those facilities

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that we may want to consider

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uh he would recuse himself at that point

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from any uh further discussion with us

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the board on

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that issue uh can i give my personal

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opinion sure

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i think though the last choice is

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probably the best

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just my personal opinion yep

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does the chairman i support your

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recommendation

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my recommendation yes so i will uh

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entertain a motion that we proceed

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up until the point that the rfp is uh

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put out our second that motion

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i'm gonna let you make the motion and

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i'm going to uh step down

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and second that motion thank you any

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i'm happy to second it you don't need to

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step down any uh discussion

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no no discussion mr chairman yes

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i make a motion that mr aggia

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continue in his current capacity serving

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on that task force until the

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rfp process has reached

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uh been sent out for the library

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any discussion on that on that motion if

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not always in favor say aye aye opposed abstention the eyes have

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uh the third uh item is the dyche

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library uh public library reopening

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are you doing that or uh no i don't mind

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okay if you want to start yeah

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thank you i i you know just i contacted

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the state because i felt my involvement

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was important for the townspeople the

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taxpayers and the library

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um i feel passionate about certain

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things that's one of the things that i'd

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us to finally bring to the forefront and

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deal with

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once and for all so thank you for

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allowing me to stay involved

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this discussion i think is going to go

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beyond tonight

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but i want you to know in my absence

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last week i watched the

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meeting i took the feedback i think it

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was a great discussion

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that was a good start to the dialogue

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but i also want you to know that the

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building needs study committee

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in no way was to say this is the

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direction that we need to go

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we wanted that to be a starting point

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that included this

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brought in the selectmen and then opened

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up the dialogue between

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the committee the selectmen and the

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townspeople to figure out what deity

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needs to do to finally get this

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library situation figured out

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so um although i we did make a couple of

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recommendations

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i think it's fairly fluid um obviously

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since then we've acted uh

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through the administrative mullen with

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seeing what other avenues were available

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so um you know i don't know how this is

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going to play out but i want to

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you know have the dialogue bring in the

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committee members so that their they

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can be heard as well even though i

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authored the letter it was

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all voices that were on paper so and

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then debate it like like professionals

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and figure out what the best thing for

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the town is and what the best thing for

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the library is

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i can give you one update though the

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structural analysis of the

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primetime building was brought up the

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structural engineer was three weeks out

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i do know him i called him had a

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technical conversation with him

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that building would be ruled out if we

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were to move books into it

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so i don't see any reason for wasting

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taxpayer dollars i felt comfortable with

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the discussion i had with him

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so we can rule out that as an option for

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the library

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if we wanted to bring the books there

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one of the reasons we came up with the

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presentation as was as written was that

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we were very conscious of not fracturing

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the library any more than it already has

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been

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i think we really need to be conscious

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of that we've done that in the past and

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i know when we moved

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some departments to old town hall there

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was discussion about fracturing

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government

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we're all on the same campus but some of

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the solutions to the library

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unless we really really put our minds to

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this is to separate

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the different um you know services that

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they have

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and i want to be careful about that

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because now we're taking them from a

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building they couldn't fit in

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to multiple buildings and i i just don't

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know how that's going to work for

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logistics with the library so

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that said i know we can go on for hours

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about this and i suggest we do

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i just think that maybe this isn't the

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forum we need to

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maybe publicize it and we need more

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information too

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yeah so just so the public knows

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the library the andrew carnegie uh light

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public library titans public library

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will not be used as a library because

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it's not big enough it's not safe

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although we're going to put a new egress

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into the building because it needs two

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egresses on the

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main floor so that people can leave the

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building

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safely and we're going to have the

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bathrooms become

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handicapped platforms the public can use

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those

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but still it won't be used as a library

357
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it's just too small

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you may know already that the

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mass library commission has

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preliminarily giving us uh will give us

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four million dollars towards

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uh adding on to the uh andrew carnegie

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library and we would have the time when

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i have to match that

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with number 11. they usually do two a

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year so at some point we're going to

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come up for that

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i'll speak for myself and not the rest

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of the board i personally don't think

370
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that's a good idea

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even the plan they have for the the

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library they say it's going to be good

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for 20 years so that we're going to be

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stuck with a

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they're going to put us they're talking

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about putting the second floor as well

377
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as expanding on the building a little

378
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bit

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we still get the problems with the

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parking lot i

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might i personally think we ought to uh

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build a new library

383
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having said that we're in a situation

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that uh come uh

385
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just about labor day i think the day is

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we're gonna if we don't have a library

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set up

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somewhere in town we're actually gonna

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lose our right to have a

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library they'll stop us and we won't be

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able to go to any other library the

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sales

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with the sales and go and use our cards

394
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here and go to say for example the

395
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somerset library

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so we're trying to find a temporary uh

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place for

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a library one of the options was we

399
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talked about anyway

400
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was prime time which is not being used

401
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as you

402
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some of you know that we've had some

403
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elderly people go over there

404
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pre-pandemic people with

405
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alzheimer's alzheimer's and they would

406
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be stay there for the day it was like a

407
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day care but we haven't opened it since

408
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the pandemic and we're not sure

409
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at what point we're going to open it up

410
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but in order for that to be used as a

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library

412
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you have to it has to be able to hold

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150 pounds

414
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per square foot so if i just stood in a

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square foot it's gonna

416
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already be too much and the books are

417
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heavy as you know there's a lot of books

418
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i asked the question uh last week if we

419
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put less books over there spread them

420
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out a little bit and that's not a

421
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possibility it has to still be that 150

422
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so

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the report that we just got tonight is

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that we can't go to uh

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prime time for the library so now we're

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looking at

427
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other options we're thinking about

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possibly leasing some

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something in dayton for the library

430
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there's also that possibility of getting

431
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a

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it's not actually a trailer though but

433
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it's it's a modular unit modular unit

434
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12 by 60 at a reasonable price would we

435
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would be leasing that and

436
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we're checking in to see whether the

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chaos act will cover that at least for

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the first year at least until the end of

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on this uh calendar year because the

440
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care act

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ends after that and then this would have

442
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to be voted on by the public obviously

443
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so those are the different options that

444
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uh that we have

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so yes let's select

446
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in regards to discussions about whether

447
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or not

448
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they are going to down the road have a

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new building

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or remodel the old one i strongly

451
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support a public forum to discuss the

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options

453
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and to present to the people class

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breakdown

455
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so they can be very much a part of the

456
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decision-making process

457
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that's sort of what i was alluding to by

458
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not getting in too deep right now

459
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,360
i want to i want to bring other

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committee members in i want to invite

461
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the public in

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and i want to discuss it you know in a

463
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democratic fashion the way it should be

464
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discussed

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yeah i mean if the if uh number comes up

466
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for the library for the addition to the

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uh

468
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andrew carnegie that has to be voted on

469
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by the residents

470
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uh so we're not at that point but i just

471
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thought there's so many people here

472
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i thought maybe they were interested in

473
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the library so i would give them that

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information

475
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so we're not voting on anything today

476
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i'm just expressing and i've said it for

477
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years my personal opinion

478
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i'm not speaking for the board my

479
00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:46,639
personal opinion is that it's cheaper

480
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for the town of brighton to build a new

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library

482
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and it's ours it's it's a permanent

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building for us and it's not gonna

484
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expire in five ten or fifteen years

485
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so we're not going to be taking yes

486
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you're gonna say something

487
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now the only question i had is we're

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heading up to the end of the fiscal year

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and

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we had discussed quickly the option of a

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modular building to

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house part of the library that

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discussion may have to happen quicker

494
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than the public forum

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we willing to do that or i mean we're

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running out of meetings by the end of

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the fiscal year so

498
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we only have one more yeah we have one

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more we could possibly have a second but

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that's really towards the end of the uh

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end of the year no i mean uh i think

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probably hopefully next week we'll have

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an answer on the chaos act whether they

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would cover

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uh the modular because and then

506
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yeah yes and at this point one of the

507
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things i mean in terms of a modular you

508
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know that wouldn't be

509
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any type of i think longer term

510
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oh you know oh you know like longer term

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opportunity solution in any way shape or

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form that would really just get us to

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the labor day open

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be it would be a one year submission

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from the date that

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it's delivered so we would only have it

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for one year

518
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so the reason why i mentioned this is um

519
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the town of ministry and i were

520
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brainstorming

521
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in case the cares act does not come

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through and we can't use kazak funding

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and one of the options that i put on the

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table was at the

525
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end of the year we had a spending freeze

526
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we're going to end up with a lot of

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accounts that have

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additional funds in them then maybe we

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could do a year end

530
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to pay for this because the cost was

531
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fairly reasonable

532
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i think with the utility connections it

533
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was going to be a little less than 40

534
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000

535
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and that's for a one-year lease right so

536
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you know i hate to miss the opportunity

537
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if kanzak doesn't come through

538
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and being that june 30th is around the

539
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corner we may want to have that

540
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discussion at the next meeting

541
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i'll be it outside of the public forum

542
00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:52,640
but at least we can maybe get the funds

543
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allocated

544
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so if we decide to go that route we uh

545
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we can pay for it

546
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select and help i just wanted to to

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clarify when i set a public forum

548
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it was not for the temporary

549
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relocation it was for what we're going

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to do

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at the end of year one when we need a

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building

553
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whether it be the old one remodeled or a

554
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brand new one

555
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right okay

556
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i have a library trustee here do you

557
00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:22,000
want to make any comment on this we're

558
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,760
not making a decision tonight but

559
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i presented the options i'm sorry i came

560
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in late but

561
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,280
it sounds like continued effort to solve

562
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the initial problem then you know

563
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i agree uh mr hull that

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public forum on plans for the future of

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00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,480
the library are important

566
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we're certainly committed to that so the

567
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,720
question i have then is when that year

568
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is up we don't have an option to lease

569
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,960
that

570
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,120
for additional effort as to whether it's

571
00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,720
available or not after one year but

572
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,919
they'll only lease in one year

573
00:19:51,919 --> 00:19:52,720
increments

574
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,960
um at least that's what i was told yeah

575
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,000
so

576
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,600
i i guess if we want it for a longer

577
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,799
term they're going to ask for more money

578
00:19:58,799 --> 00:19:59,120
yeah

579
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:03,760
i'm sure so yeah right now we're looking to have

580
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:04,880
cares covered so they're not going to

581
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,360
care

582
00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:07,600
they're not going to cover whatever i

583
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,400
didn't mean to

584
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,000
care they're not going to cover up for

585
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,440
longer than a year because the fund's

586
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,799
going to run out in december

587
00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:14,320
they would hopefully they would provide

588
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,600
us with the initial money for the first

589
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,600
year anyway so one of the reluctancies i

590
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,240
have

591
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,280
with longer than a year is

592
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,080
as selective as a graphic said last week

593
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,760
modulars trailers tend to become

594
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,559
permanent

595
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:27,840
and i would hate to see that happen

596
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,440
especially since in order to do that

597
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,240
we're going to fracture the department and the library is going

598
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,200
to be fragmented so i think if that gets a certain year then we can

599
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,880
have two locations

600
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,039
i think a lot a bigger discussion needs

601
00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:42,080
to be

602
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,000
when and if we can get a shovel in the

603
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,159
ground and what do we do after the year

604
00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:48,240
to get us to that point you won't be

605
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,520
building a library in a year i can

606
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,640
guarantee that boy

607
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,880
absolutely but but if we have some sort

608
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,679
of

609
00:20:53,679 --> 00:20:56,720
plan then maybe we can say okay after

610
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,480
the one year do we have another short

611
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,400
term plan that puts the library back

612
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,200
together

613
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,960
while we're getting this new library off

614
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,310
the ground

615
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,640
so i think that and i know this is

616
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,159
preliminary but

617
00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:11,840
if we could get cares to pay for

618
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,919
anything to offset

619
00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:16,080
you know like the taxpayers funding a

620
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,400
temporary solution i think that that's

621
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,440
a plus um and then you know we could

622
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,200
figure out the second year and the third

623
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,240
year because i think

624
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,679
where what 12 on that 11 and 12

625
00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:29,360
and but they're not even accepting new

626
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:30,960
applications i'm 11 and 12.

627
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,039
to add to that correct delight and

628
00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:34,400
reconnecting correct

629
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,400
i don't think that i don't think uh

630
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,919
taxpayers are going to support that yeah

631
00:21:37,919 --> 00:21:40,159
i know i know it's important

632
00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:41,520
i think is i actually believe it's

633
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,480
cheaper to build a new library then

634
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,799
renovate it eight million dollars on

635
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:47,760
that site

636
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,919
yeah that's not a that's not a good site

637
00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:51,919
it's not it's not a good site and

638
00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:54,000
even on this grant that we've supposedly

639
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,919
were eligible unless we do something on

640
00:21:55,919 --> 00:21:57,440
that site we have to start the process

641
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,159
again and i was

642
00:21:58,159 --> 00:21:59,840
and at the meeting last week they're not

643
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,919
even accepting applications now

644
00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:04,480
and if somebody uh sometimes been given

645
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,360
uh a grant

646
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,120
more than 20 years ago they're able to

647
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,640
reapply again for

648
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,720
additions or whatever so that numbers of

649
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,320
talent supply and it's even going to

650
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,799
increase so so the only reason i i

651
00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:15,919
suggested

652
00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,760
using taxpayer funds or at least

653
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,440
appropriating taxpayer funds before the

654
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,120
end of the year is if here's act doesn't

655
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:21,840
come through

656
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,760
now we need to wait until and that's

657
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,840
passed off and we lose

658
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,159
yeah we can't do that either yeah it's a

659
00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:32,470
rock and a hard place i just think that

660
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,120
i think it's attractive to have cares

661
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,640
fun that first year

662
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,400
we can figure it out and because the

663
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,159
other thing is you've said

664
00:22:40,159 --> 00:22:42,400
quite honestly is that um they're not

665
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,240
accepting new applications so we can

666
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,720
if we wanted to if the public had if

667
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,320
there were support let's say we had the

668
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,200
forum as

669
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,880
selectman hall wants to and i support

670
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,120
that as well i think it's a good idea

671
00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,919
we still can't submit an application and

672
00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:57,120
you know there's no

673
00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,120
even if the the project is really

674
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,720
attractive more attractive than the

675
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,080
renovation project

676
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,559
i think that there's a chance that we're

677
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:06,159
on a waiting list again

678
00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:09,039
um and even if we were number one that

679
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:10,400
still is going to take

680
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,000
you know the police station look that

681
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,840
was a long process it didn't

682
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,120
happen quickly and so we should

683
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,200
be honest with people the temporary

684
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,200
solution is going to be a few years

685
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,960
and i think we need to be honest and i

686
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,400
think that that's what's transparent

687
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,120
here so

688
00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:26,799
right so the building needs study

689
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:28,320
committee is going to reconvene

690
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,880
even though we just had one meeting last

691
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,559
week where i wasn't present the feedback

692
00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:34,480
from you was great

693
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,480
the new information about prime time is

694
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,000
also helpful so

695
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,880
we intend to have another discussion

696
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,559
based on all the facts that we have to

697
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,679
date

698
00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:45,440
and when it comes time we'll certainly

699
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,600
mean again before the public forum but

700
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,440
i think there are some options available

701
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,200
to us to deal with that problem because

702
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,240
it is a problem

703
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,799
so so we'll be fully engaged with you

704
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:56,159
about that and thank you for allowing me

705
00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:57,760
to stay involved i think it's a benefit

706
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,520
to the taxpayer and the whole situation

707
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,960
to have me involved so thank you you're

708
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,159
the facilities manager

709
00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:06,320
so do you think we'll be able to vote on

710
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,440
this uh

711
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,120
at the next uh next meeting board of

712
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,440
slackers meetings uh yes yes i'm gonna

713
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,559
follow up with a

714
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:15,039
f uh by the end of this week uh to see

715
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:17,200
if they've had time to digest any of the

716
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,039
information we sent over

717
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:22,000
um and mr aguirre said i'm actually

718
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,880
mentioned i think

719
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,000
it i think at this point uh for the

720
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,080
meeting on the 23rd anyhow we were

721
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,520
already planning

722
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,640
um on proposing transfers to the board

723
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,679
of selectmen

724
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:35,840
um and already we had a financial

725
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,480
meeting this afternoon

726
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,159
oh you know to try to identify aries

727
00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:43,919
uh you know where we might be able to

728
00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:46,159
fund that thirty thousand dollars from

729
00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:48,159
uh like so we'll be ready just in the

730
00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:50,159
event as a contingency to have that

731
00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:51,760
funding ready to be proposed in the

732
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,200
event that we don't

733
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,400
um actually have i'm a good answer or

734
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,760
like an answer that we would hope for

735
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,440
from the state

736
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,760
so we'll put on the agenda for any

737
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,480
further discussion on this no thank you the next uh agenda item is

738
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,159
the minutes i asked for a motion to

739
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:09,840
approve the minutes of april 28

740
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,080
2021 so moved is there a second in a

741
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,679
second

742
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:19,600
uh just so you know i did have some uh

743
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,760
a minor uh correction on it that you may

744
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,200
not have seen okay i was on a

745
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,720
selectmen's report i gave a report on

746
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,000
the uh

747
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,200
it's not the community garden but the

748
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,400
james briggs garden it's going to be

749
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,440
next door

750
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,440
uh and it said that uh mr again was

751
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,720
there it wasn't it was uh actually

752
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,799
uh mr ferry that was at the meeting so

753
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,039
that's been corrected so just so you

754
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:38,559
know full disclosure that's been a

755
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,360
change in it sounds good

756
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,320
uh any discussion if not all those in

757
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,919
favor say aye aye opposed extension the eyes have

758
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:48,960
it

759
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,279
uh public input just before the public

760
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:53,120
gets to speak i just wanted to

761
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,200
uh the three of us attended the uh

762
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,480
historical commission's

763
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,480
boston philippine that was given to the

764
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,679
family of maria

765
00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:02,559
barboza and it was present it was a very

766
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:03,279
good uh

767
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,520
presentation i want to thank the members

768
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,320
of the

769
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,919
historical commission you happen to have

770
00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:09,360
a couple members here but

771
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,520
pat gales who's the chairman pat olson

772
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,960
uh pamela nicholson

773
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,760
gail salvi who is here and uh raffer who

774
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,600
is also here and bill crude who's not

775
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,960
here but they did a

776
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,240
great job and pam and myself and my wife

777
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,000
we went to the barbosa farm after they

778
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,120
had a little celebration with their

779
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:26,000
family

780
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,159
and uh they were very impressed with the presentation so

781
00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:32,400
uh i know we're gonna do it or you're

782
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,919
gonna do it in a couple of weeks

783
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:37,440
so you get a high bar now to but they uh

784
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,520
the family was very supportive as you

785
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,960
may not know but there was

786
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,679
probably 40 45 people there some town

787
00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:44,559
officials

788
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:47,440
uh but the the families were represented

789
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,880
uh maria barboza

790
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,440
was our oldest person in town and she um

791
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,960
she passed away before we actually

792
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,559
able to do the presentation but she was

793
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:56,240
aware uh that we were

794
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,400
presenting her we did it to the with the

795
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,400
family with the boston post games so

796
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,159
i just want to thank the historical

797
00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:04,559
commission for the hard work they did

798
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,760
uh public input is there any public

799
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,400
input

800
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,600
and that lies the one situation the

801
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,400
current location in the building um if

802
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,760
we end up with a new location and they

803
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,200
sell that property

804
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,720
but that would put some money toward the

805
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,399
project wouldn't it yes but

806
00:27:20,399 --> 00:27:22,399
it's it's an historical building and i

807
00:27:22,399 --> 00:27:24,320
quite frankly i'd be opposed to uh

808
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,559
selling my bill i the town will use that

809
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:27,760
building the time we use it for

810
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,520
something whether it's a department

811
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,919
or something uh but i don't know what the board feels i

812
00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:35,520
don't know what the public feels but it

813
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,279
would be a shame to uh

814
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:39,600
get rid of the andrew uh kaneki uh

815
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,399
building

816
00:27:40,399 --> 00:27:44,080
and it's not um it's not

817
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,840
from the sounds of it it doesn't sound

818
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,080
feasible

819
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,840
to get the fourth million and then the

820
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,279
matching to

821
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,919
renovate that space with it the plan is

822
00:27:53,919 --> 00:27:55,360
they present to the planets

823
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,960
to expand the building a little bit and

824
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,039
put a second floor on it destroys the whole design of that

825
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:02,480
building quite frankly

826
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,559
and i saw somewhere and i may be wrong

827
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,559
but it was good for 20 years

828
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:09,760
and why you know that's a very small

829
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,960
spot parking is limited and i i want to

830
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,640
support i actually think the town can

831
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,039
spend less money because we would be

832
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:18,320
obligated to pay four million dollars

833
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,159
and don't forget this these are figures

834
00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:22,000
that were given to us a few years ago

835
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,559
anybody's bought a two by four

836
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,640
the price is almost tripled so the

837
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,320
expense may go up but i actually think

838
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,360
that we can build

839
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,600
a better building and what would be the

840
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,679
approach i know it's not in stone but

841
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:37,279
approximate cost

842
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:39,279
of a new sustaining building beyond the

843
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,279
28th i don't know but i think the

844
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:42,640
for example the police station which is

845
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,320
a lot more detailed as far as

846
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,679
equipment and stuff that they had to

847
00:28:45,679 --> 00:28:47,360
have in there uh was four and a half

848
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,480
million dollars so

849
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880
i think we can build a similar building

850
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,159
we don't obviously

851
00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:53,760
well maybe we do but uh we won't have

852
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,440
jail cells and we don't have that kind

853
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,720
of stuff but uh

854
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,360
we hope not uh but we won't have all

855
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,520
those uh little rooms and it's all separate you know it's divided

856
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,320
and put

857
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960
you know as protection for the employees

858
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,000
over there that kind of stuff we won't

859
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720
necessarily need that for a library but

860
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,080
my gut feelings is going to be cheaper

861
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,679
just to build a new library yeah it

862
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:15,120
would be a shame to lose the sales

863
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,600
because

864
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,279
that connects us with all the other

865
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:18,399
rooms that's absolutely that's the

866
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:20,480
important thing

867
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,600
yep and uh so did we we went to somerset

868
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,039
a lot

869
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,039
and we even if that was open as a

870
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:28,320
library now we can't

871
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,559
use the basement we can't use the the

872
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,240
second floor just that main floor

873
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,679
and we can only fit so many people in

874
00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:35,600
there so it's really not a good

875
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,679
option for us and the uh fire chief and

876
00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:39,440
the police chief have both said it's not

877
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,520
safe for us to open up as a library so

878
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,799
that's why we unfortunately have this

879
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:43,679
option

880
00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:45,039
uh we have to look at these uh different

881
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:50,480
options but uh i see as mr again said leasing is a

882
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,640
temporary solution it's not gonna be

883
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,320
we need to own the building the town of

884
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,840
brighton deserves to have its own

885
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,360
library and we shouldn't be obligated to

886
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,960
pay somebody else

887
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,919
annually you want to say something um so

888
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:03,039
the

889
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,440
building as it is now what you

890
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,760
because it's not gone yet but what are

891
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,679
some of the potential uses for it

892
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:15,039
if we kept it and didn't sell it

893
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,279
i i guess i can express my uh i'll give

894
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:18,080
you my

895
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,760
personal feelings i think the veteran

896
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,679
agent could be over there

897
00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:23,760
i think the maybe possibility of i'll

898
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,880
stay in front of the building commission

899
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,440
the building

900
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,919
department to be over there uh it's you

901
00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:29,440
know the public will be able to go you

902
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,080
know for this

903
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,240
the public will be well aware of what

904
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,679
that building is for so that instead of

905
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:35,039
going over here or going coming over

906
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:36,240
here they'll know where to go for

907
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,640
certain services so uh but it can be

908
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,240
utilized

909
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,559
i'd be so opposed to uh selling it and i

910
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,159
don't think we'll get the money that

911
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:46,240
uh i think that you think that we'd uh

912
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,679
be able to call somebody mentioned that

913
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:48,880
we'd be able to get so

914
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,880
mr again so there's a plan in place

915
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,720
right now to

916
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,440
put an accessible ramp excuse me on the

917
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,200
building and an accessible restroom in

918
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,080
the building

919
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,600
right now the restroom is fractured the

920
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,080
facilities are in an old closet the

921
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,159
handle or sink is in the hallway

922
00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:08,640
so it's just you know it served its

923
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,200
purpose

924
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,559
long ago um but you know that library is

925
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:16,720
far outlived it's it's usefulness there the building

926
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,399
however as was said

927
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:20,240
is economy building we're the stewards

928
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,000
of that building and we we're

929
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,519
responsible for making sure it's here

930
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,039
for generations to come

931
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:28,080
so i think by moving them out getting

932
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,840
the building so it's accessible

933
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,279
repairing some of the things that are

934
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:36,240
deficient on it we'll open it up for more use and and more valuable use

935
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,440
and i think more people

936
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,039
not that the library isn't frequented

937
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:40,480
but i think if it were another build

938
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,120
another town

939
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,200
service more towns people would be able

940
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,840
to appreciate the building for what it

941
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,159
is

942
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:48,480
and town always looks towards the future

943
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,279
you know we have

944
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,120
the old town hall it's called old town

945
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,039
hall uh next door was booked in

946
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,360
1869. instead of adding onto this

947
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,120
building here we utilize that space over

948
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,559
there we're expanding space here we've

949
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,080
done changes upstairs the

950
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,760
uh we bought a selectmen we had a

951
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,120
meeting room upstairs it's no longer

952
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,760
there

953
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,519
we meet over there now we're using that

954
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,120
for the town council so we we always

955
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,320
look towards the future as to how we can

956
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,679
use these buildings rather than just

957
00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:11,360
build a building the library is

958
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,039
different we we just can't

959
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,120
i don't see this a feasible solution to

960
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,720
add on to the uh andrew chronicle you

961
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,120
know

962
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,399
when the building needs a study

963
00:32:18,399 --> 00:32:20,640
committee who's doing their diligence

964
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,200
there's an annual report from 1920 i

965
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,000
believe

966
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,679
that said the library had already

967
00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:28,640
outlived its space this was a hundred

968
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,600
years ago

969
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,519
and we're still talking about it today

970
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:32,799
so um

971
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:34,320
i remember that when that that report

972
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:41,110
came out

973
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,679
so so nonetheless i mean you know

974
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:45,200
anybody who's visiting the library sees

975
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,720
it it's very constrained

976
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
and certainly not accessible um and it's

977
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,320
you know

978
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,840
even for the staff you know they've

979
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,440
sacrificed a lot through the years just

980
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,480
dealing with the

981
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,440
uh inefficiency and deficiencies of the

982
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,320
building but

983
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,840
i think it's time that we have a healthy

984
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,679
discussion and figure it out

985
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:04,799
thanks well i'm going to like slip and

986
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,870
hold scoot first

987
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,919
i hear some wonderful ideas

988
00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:15,039
as a taxpayer and as a representative of

989
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,640
people

990
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,919
i hear people that are very concerned

991
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:21,760
about their pockets and their bank

992
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,120
accounts and their tax rate

993
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,039
what i would really like to see the task

994
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:28,399
force come up with

995
00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:31,519
is two plans plan a remodeling

996
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,799
that facility and what it will cost

997
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,000
plan b a new facility and let the

998
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,240
taxpayers decide

999
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,640
what they want because they're the ones

1000
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,039
that are going to be paying the bill

1001
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:48,720
sure just to clarify that so when that

1002
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,559
when our number comes up whenever that

1003
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:51,679
is gonna be three or four five years

1004
00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:53,039
down the road

1005
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:54,799
it goes before go before the town's

1006
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,159
people and they'll get the vote on it

1007
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:56,480
but

1008
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,159
i agree with you you should also have a

1009
00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:00,399
second option so it can't be just

1010
00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:02,640
reject my position is reject this we

1011
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,760
need to have something else there

1012
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,039
yes that's right if we're gonna reject

1013
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,600
this then let's do this

1014
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,480
we have to yeah because we can't wait i

1015
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,359
mean it'll be

1016
00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:14,399
10 years before oh yeah ultimately this

1017
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:14,800
isn't

1018
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,280
the study committee's decision to make

1019
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,639
we're just going to give it

1020
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,800
facts and then the people will decide

1021
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,399
what the federal library is

1022
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:24,320
but it's it's up to us to make sure that

1023
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,760
people are well involved

1024
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,119
so i agree i

1025
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,960
just like to add that in 2000

1026
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,839
i was on the library building committee

1027
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:36,639
to build

1028
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,879
a new library that was 21 years ago

1029
00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:43,919
and we're still talking about it

1030
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:45,359
and we're still hearing the same

1031
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:49,119
objections we heard 21 years ago

1032
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:52,159
and the sad reality is it's going to

1033
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:52,879
cost a

1034
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:55,839
heck of a lot more money today to build

1035
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:56,560
a new one

1036
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,160
than it would have 21 years ago and we

1037
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,880
had some uh

1038
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,800
at that time we had some donations uh g

1039
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,400
lopez was going to do the foundation for

1040
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:06,960
us and

1041
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520
we had some other donations yeah i think

1042
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,599
i i just think that's a really timely

1043
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:12,560
point and

1044
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,079
i remember you brought up something

1045
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,440
earlier and i thought it was also a

1046
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,720
really good point about

1047
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,720
the folks who built libraries 20 years

1048
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,320
ago are now eligible

1049
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,079
for more grants we could have been one

1050
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,160
of those towns that did something

1051
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,800
20 years ago and is doing something now

1052
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,280
um

1053
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,320
and potentially saved money so um but

1054
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
our job is to give everyone the facts

1055
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,800
the options and doing nothing is an

1056
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,000
option

1057
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,640
it really is um but it comes with

1058
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,880
ramifications as mr white brought up

1059
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,119
where we lose our sales certification

1060
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:44,320
and anyone who

1061
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,320
uses the library knows how valuable that

1062
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,000
is because dayton public library

1063
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,160
unfortunately isn't big enough to have

1064
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,480
a lot of the books so a lot of the media

1065
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,839
materials that

1066
00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:56,560
people seek so um but i agree with

1067
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,000
selectmanhole we should

1068
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,079
gather that data or the building uh

1069
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,240
study committee would gather that data

1070
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,320
give everyone the three options the

1071
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,320
renovation a new library

1072
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,280
or you know do nothing we're probably

1073
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,720
going to do this temporary solution

1074
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:11,760
regardless

1075
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,320
but um and then see where it shakes out

1076
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,599
yeah that's what we'll be voting on in

1077
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:17,200
the near future just a temporary

1078
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,710
solution so um

1079
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,640
we we're talking about public money and

1080
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,079
that kind of thing as

1081
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:28,960
if it comes from you know the air but it

1082
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,920
doesn't it comes from

1083
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,160
us and so you're right we have to be

1084
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,680
good stewards of that

1085
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,760
has anyone thought to go to the carnegie

1086
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,280
foundation they're the ones who gave us

1087
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,160
the 8 000

1088
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,359
back in what 1908 to build it has anyone

1089
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:41,680
like

1090
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,839
actually contacted the carnegie

1091
00:36:43,839 --> 00:36:45,040
foundation

1092
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,200
knowledge is still extensive yeah that's

1093
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,400
news to me if it is but

1094
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,960
i'll take you away for what that is they

1095
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,000
throw money at

1096
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,680
you know they've got the 501c3 they're

1097
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,240
throwing money um i think wqed in

1098
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:56,880
pittsburgh

1099
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,079
is the local public um

1100
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,800
you know pbs station so that's one of

1101
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,200
those things where

1102
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,720
there might be some sentimental value

1103
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,240
because i kind of agree with you again

1104
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,119
um

1105
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,680
i you know don't want to see the

1106
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520
building disappear

1107
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,800
you know and it's not just sentiment

1108
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,960
there's a there's a

1109
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,000
whatever you want to call it there's

1110
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
continuity to it and everything i'd like

1111
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,680
to see that stay there i live

1112
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,119
pretty close um but

1113
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,480
i don't want to spend a heck of a lot of

1114
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,760
money and i don't know where we're going

1115
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,040
to get 4 000

1116
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:36,400
from 4 million

1117
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,839
because we have um police cruisers that

1118
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:41,520
could be

1119
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,800
repaired fixed we have fire engines that

1120
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,200
need to be fixed we have a lot of other

1121
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,400
needs in this town you know

1122
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,359
and a library is one of those things

1123
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:54,480
that's nice to have

1124
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040
it's awesome it's a sign of civilization

1125
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,839
but

1126
00:37:57,839 --> 00:37:59,359
we have some more pressing needs right

1127
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:01,280
now um

1128
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,880
so that was that was my only thought on

1129
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,960
that if we could you know

1130
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,880
uh approach the carnegie foundation

1131
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,589
maybe

1132
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,800
yeah i didn't know it existed so

1133
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,079
it's good thank you mr chairman yes uh

1134
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,640
i i agree with mr gallucci um and and

1135
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,359
you as well

1136
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,920
um i think that regardless of what

1137
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,440
happens with the

1138
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,160
library going forward um that building

1139
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,640
was

1140
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,760
a gift um it is historic

1141
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,119
um it's beautiful and i think that

1142
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:34,160
it's something that brought the

1143
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,520
community together that's why the

1144
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,960
library is there

1145
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160
um and if we could keep that building

1146
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,000
something that is community-based and

1147
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
i'm not talking about expanding services

1148
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,079
that's not what i mean i just mean like

1149
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,960
a community center a place where

1150
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,119
the community can go maybe not so much

1151
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,560
uh in my opinion

1152
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,800
uh like a department building i think

1153
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,839
we've split

1154
00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:58,480
um departments enough and gotten the

1155
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,320
feedback about it too um

1156
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,359
but if we could keep it a

1157
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:03,119
community-based building that would be

1158
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,079
my preference

1159
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:05,760
yeah the other option and maybe it's

1160
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,119
because i'm a senior but a

1161
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,800
possibility of a senior center too that

1162
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,320
people get together that has been

1163
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,920
brought up by residents as well include

1164
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,040
you in that group too

1165
00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:19,200
[Laughter]

1166
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:27,030
any other uh question yes

1167
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,480
building the old um there's plenty of

1168
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,640
space right there is it possible

1169
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,839
maybe to purchase like a sizeable amount

1170
00:39:33,839 --> 00:39:34,560
of that

1171
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,839
empty building and joining public right

1172
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:39,200
here this might be partner space

1173
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,560
yeah is it so i think here oasis bought

1174
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,000
the entire building

1175
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,240
um and they're gonna cultivate and then

1176
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,400
also rent that was part of the hca

1177
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,040
tonight

1178
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,280
so i don't think that i think their

1179
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,200
intent i shouldn't we can ask them i

1180
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,240
want to be very clear

1181
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,160
but i think their intent was to lease

1182
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,520
the space out to the

1183
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,880
to other cultivators is what i was

1184
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,109
but you've worked with them much closer

1185
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,040
what was that how many cultivators are

1186
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,640
supposed to well

1187
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,720
it's uh what's the tax revenue i mean

1188
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:12,240
that's you know we're talking about

1189
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:13,440
taxes we're talking about spending money

1190
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,040
for library this is one

1191
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,960
source of uh revenue for the for the

1192
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,480
town and we get the three percent impact fee on

1193
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,200
the sales

1194
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,200
if we negotiate it into the hca which

1195
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,359
everyone has had that in there that we

1196
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:27,839
have negotiated plus you get you know

1197
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:29,839
the real estate tax the property taxes

1198
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:30,400
and all that

1199
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,200
so it is a boom yeah select my health

1200
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,760
rafa the concern that i have about that it may complicate

1201
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,720
the approval process with the planning

1202
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:45,680
board

1203
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,800
and with zba in regards to if you put

1204
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,400
the library up there

1205
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,200
so close to marijuana with children

1206
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:53,760
coming

1207
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,910
into that building that they may

1208
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,720
be opposed to the passage of that

1209
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,880
pure oasis you know we talk about the

1210
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,160
tax revenue

1211
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,319
but we're also talking about the

1212
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:09,440
potential

1213
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,750
of 400 jobs

1214
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,599
and that will have an impact on this

1215
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:16,880
community

1216
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,480
as well um

1217
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,920
i caution people pure oasis

1218
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960
is not a done deal

1219
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,680
it still has to get by planning board

1220
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,440
and it still has to get by

1221
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,200
zba um so

1222
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,520
there's still work to be done and

1223
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,150
salesmanship to be done

1224
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,760
and pure oasis is going to hire mostly

1225
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,800
daytonians so that's their preference

1226
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,400
and they will hire uh people who have

1227
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,440
been arrested for marijuana dealing

1228
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,920
drug i'm just that's just because they

1229
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,359
were penalized years back you know i

1230
00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:01,200
worked in probation for 35 years

1231
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,720
uh people put on probation some people

1232
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,560
were put in jail because of marijuana so

1233
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,119
now they're

1234
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:06,319
trying to reverse that because the

1235
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:08,480
publisher might be able to tell from

1236
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,280
here

1237
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,720
uh that probably should have been legal

1238
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,119
years ago so uh

1239
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:14,560
it's there's there's going to be

1240
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,720
employment from daytona's which is great

1241
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:17,839
not only

1242
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:19,599
you know it's it's revenue for the town

1243
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,200
but it's also putting some people to

1244
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,800
work which is a great opportunity for

1245
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,440
dayton but that's the way down the road i think

1246
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,440
those are all good points um but i also

1247
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,560
want to

1248
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,359
add that business begets business so i

1249
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:33,280
think the more

1250
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,400
jobs that we create in dayton then

1251
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,079
the more likelihood that you'll have

1252
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:40,160
restaurants and other places that want

1253
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,839
to open up this is just my

1254
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:45,760
crazy idea um and service those

1255
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,319
influx of people who maybe no longer

1256
00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:50,319
have to go to boston for work can go to

1257
00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:52,160
you know or providence or wherever can

1258
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,920
now work close to home so

1259
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,760
like it used to be with the old uh

1260
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,839
raytheon and icing ici

1261
00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:03,280
and let's help um dr c

1262
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,319
in response to that um

1263
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:09,280
we have a committee that has dormant now

1264
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:09,839
the

1265
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:12,640
business and development corporation and

1266
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,160
i'm hoping in the

1267
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,240
meetings to come that be able to

1268
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:22,079
get your support mr pacheco's support to

1269
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,839
work on revitalizing that committee

1270
00:43:24,839 --> 00:43:26,079
absolutely

1271
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:28,000
and not just that committee but also the

1272
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,680
development and industrial commission

1273
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:36,150
which is more of a marketing committee yes

1274
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,800
any other public input is there any

1275
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,560
public input on there's something in

1276
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,920
there

1277
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,119
uh so yeah there was um a little bit of

1278
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,319
input uh for me from a user nancy mack

1279
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:51,680
um and just wanted to clarify uh there

1280
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,560
that there will be 400 jobs total uh the

1281
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,599
pure oasis

1282
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,160
discussed hiring a hundred additional

1283
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:58,960
employees

1284
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,790
from the community yes

1285
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,480
they're going to hire 100

1286
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,240
i think all the all the employees that

1287
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:11,760
they hire other than

1288
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,119
management they're going to be

1289
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,520
preference for titonians if they qualify

1290
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,800
and then the agreement that we've been

1291
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,200
voted on if somebody's from somerset and

1292
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,000
somebody's from

1293
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,319
the both have the same qualifications

1294
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,000
the titanium's going to get the job

1295
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,839
and that's enshrined in the agreement

1296
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:27,680
that we signed and both parties agreed

1297
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,390
to

1298
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,359
mr white how about security um around

1299
00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:34,560
the facility

1300
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,079
i'm sure that's going to be the type of

1301
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,319
facility that people are going to want

1302
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:40,079
into that don't belong in there

1303
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,359
um how are we going to uh make sure that

1304
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:44,160
we've got

1305
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
adequate security well they they i

1306
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,280
forget how many cameras

1307
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,359
they have to have but it's fully secured

1308
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:50,960
and so

1309
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,640
if they're growing marijuana here in the

1310
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,240
building there's gonna

1311
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,839
it won't be like a windows here to the

1312
00:44:55,839 --> 00:44:57,599
public so it's gonna be inside the

1313
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:58,800
building somewhere

1314
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,880
and it's gonna be security cameras uh

1315
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,160
the police department has to be involved

1316
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,280
in that the police department has the

1317
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,119
right to look at those cameras

1318
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:08,160
uh so i i think it's going to be uh very

1319
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:08,640
secure

1320
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,000
the special program addresses all of

1321
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,680
that so they're great questions and our

1322
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,960
planning board has been

1323
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,880
fully engaged with making sure that's

1324
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,720
part of their conditions and their

1325
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,119
special permit

1326
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:22,800
and that they have to have a they have

1327
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,800
to have it like an actual security plan

1328
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,440
and i think

1329
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,079
yes and the agreement dpd needs to i

1330
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:29,920
think the chief of police has to go in

1331
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,079
there and like sign off on everything

1332
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,800
i think the public should also remember

1333
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,319
that part of the reason why

1334
00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:38,480
this not just this board but the board

1335
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,520
with um

1336
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,599
selectmen gular as well had been

1337
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:42,640
supportive of the

1338
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,200
three percent impact fee is in case

1339
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,760
something

1340
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,400
happens and you have to have more police

1341
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,440
presence or

1342
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,000
police have to go out um due to calls or

1343
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,440
things like that so it's in

1344
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,480
and i'm not saying that's going to

1345
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,160
happen i'm just saying it's an

1346
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,079
anticipation of things like that

1347
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,160
even though it's a business and not a

1348
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,599
family that's going to

1349
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,839
you know for example send a child to

1350
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:06,560
school which is a cost to the taxpayers

1351
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,280
um so they're we're anticipating things

1352
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,839
like that as well as best that we can

1353
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:14,319
so the revenue being used to pay the

1354
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:15,680
employees

1355
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,030
are marijuana

1356
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,880
facilities allowed to put money in banks

1357
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,119
it was a period of time has that been

1358
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:26,160
rectified

1359
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,000
or do they have to deal in a cash

1360
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,839
business

1361
00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:31,280
what's that what's the currency it's

1362
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,280
been fleshed out has it been flushed out

1363
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,599
um it's easier i wouldn't say it's

1364
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:36,880
completely flexible yeah

1365
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,319
i haven't heard anything different from

1366
00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:40,720
this because not all

1367
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,839
the banks are uh fdic insured

1368
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:46,319
and the rules were that your state can

1369
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:47,280
do something

1370
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,440
but the banking commission would not

1371
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,960
allow the federal rules from

1372
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,160
that type of money so if that's been

1373
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,280
fleshed out

1374
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,599
then it's easy to make payroll for the

1375
00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:58,560
people yeah

1376
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,560
i thought i saw some banking i think it

1377
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,079
was just a massachusetts bank

1378
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:04,319
that was lending them money or having

1379
00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:06,160
some accounts but i'm not positive of

1380
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,480
that

1381
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,000
i can't remember the name i have an

1382
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,160
answer i spoke with an attorney there's

1383
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,359
one bank in the area

1384
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:13,760
local area that is dealing with

1385
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,280
marijuana facilities

1386
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,319
but you're right yes they are

1387
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:23,440
yeah federal governments allow you yes and that was i questioned him on it because i i heard

1388
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,280
the same thing you did and there's only

1389
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,200
one bank that's large enough to do it

1390
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,960
in this area so that's what they're all

1391
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,640
i'm a licensed financial advisor and

1392
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,440
i'm not allowed to put clients into

1393
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,960
those types of

1394
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,160
investments yeah you can't

1395
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,920
you're right they all they seek private

1396
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,599
funds for investments

1397
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,599
but the actual banking to do payroll or

1398
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,280
whatnot there's one bank in the area

1399
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,079
that's doing it

1400
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:47,599
in colorado for years they were paying

1401
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,240
people with cash on that payment

1402
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,680
and they had a big vault in there and

1403
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,800
that was another security issue right they were i'm not sure what they

1404
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,000
feared more people stealing the

1405
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,720
marijuana

1406
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,800
people stealing the money but uh well

1407
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,160
the cartels were coming in because they

1408
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,119
didn't want to be in competition

1409
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:09,920
did you mr chairman is it okay uh we had a conversation earlier and you had

1410
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,800
said that

1411
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,559
um you know it's impossible to

1412
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:14,400
anticipate

1413
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,000
expenses and things like that that may

1414
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,520
arise from um

1415
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,839
the business opening but that we would

1416
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:20,960
monitor

1417
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,440
things like you know um okay the police

1418
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,880
are going out a lot or the fire

1419
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,480
department and things like that so did

1420
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,359
you wanna

1421
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:28,720
just for the public because we had a

1422
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,720
couple questions about it

1423
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,880
so yes in the three percent in three

1424
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,960
percent i mean what the three percent

1425
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880
envisions is any type of

1426
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,760
additional um i like additional

1427
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,359
enforcement activities like from

1428
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:43,040
inspection from police

1429
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,760
uh like for money public safety i like

1430
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,119
any type of additional town efforts that

1431
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,000
we would

1432
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,559
uh you know as a town have to provide i

1433
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,880
would be included in the three percent

1434
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,400
uh one of the things i'm actually

1435
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,760
happening in other communities across

1436
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,200
the state right now is there's a lot of

1437
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,800
scrutiny

1438
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,760
i'm on exactly what i'm exactly what type of expenses are

1439
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,760
included in the three percent

1440
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,319
uh actually practically speaking i like

1441
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:17,280
and what a lot of and what a lot of

1442
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,040
uh cities in town are having to do now

1443
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,280
is trying to quantify

1444
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,240
i like exactly what exactly what type of

1445
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,559
expenses are made up

1446
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:28,160
oh you know like in the first second and

1447
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,000
third year in the three percent to

1448
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,359
quantify that all i can hope so i mean

1449
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:34,480
if

1450
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,839
i like if pure oasis is ever i'm in fact

1451
00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:40,079
up and running you know this

1452
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:43,280
uh oh yeah the agree

1453
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,880
the agreement approved this evening is

1454
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,480
for five years

1455
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,640
i like and the expectation is after the

1456
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,559
five years all parties would really know

1457
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,559
the true costs

1458
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,680
all i can oh in any future agreement any

1459
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,480
future agreement would recognize

1460
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,640
oh you can better reflect any true costs

1461
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,079
that the

1462
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:03,839
oh you know our community really faces

1463
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:08,390
and has to deal with as a result

1464
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,040
yes is there a model that worked that

1465
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,920
they are

1466
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,319
using to come up with the amount of

1467
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:15,920
money that they think that's going to

1468
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:16,559
equal to

1469
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,910
over those five years

1470
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,720
oh you know uh you know i'm in terms of

1471
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:23,599
um

1472
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,680
i'm in terms of a model the model is

1473
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,960
really the three percent

1474
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,960
but every you know what i mean but what

1475
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,720
is it equal what is

1476
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,990
after

1477
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,760
oh yeah like in terms of a projection

1478
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,119
yeah like they don't actually

1479
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,119
know that yet because the market is

1480
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:44,150
still evolving

1481
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,520
going back from now to five years what

1482
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,480
is what is the model for that come to

1483
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,760
what does those figures

1484
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,240
equal well we don't know that only

1485
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:54,800
because

1486
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,800
i'm saying the company yeah the company

1487
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,880
because they're starting off small

1488
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,240
and they hope to expand they're going to

1489
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,000
get other companies

1490
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,640
so they don't have anything like this

1491
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,520
that's

1492
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,040
no they only have uh

1493
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,960
yeah they have a registered marijuana

1494
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,240
disease

1495
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:13,760
yeah they but they don't cultivate it

1496
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,280
correct so they want

1497
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,000
this site to help support their

1498
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,760
operation in dorchester

1499
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,240
um which makes sense we're we're a small

1500
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:23,280
quiet town

1501
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,680
you know it's not dorchester hopefully

1502
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,319
there's less crime obviously here so

1503
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:30,400
yeah i think they talked about uh and

1504
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,839
correct me from wrong that

1505
00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:33,119
they were gonna use a hundred thousand

1506
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:35,520
square feet to grow marijuana

1507
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,880
there's another company that is

1508
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,119
interested it'll come also before us and

1509
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:40,720
we'll have a similar agreement

1510
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:42,640
that will also be called the growing

1511
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,760
marijuana there so

1512
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,760
they hope to expand none of the

1513
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,520
businesses there are going to

1514
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,599
be thrown out so those businesses that

1515
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,280
are there they continue

1516
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,119
being there but they it's i think

1517
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:54,480
instead of half a million square feet

1518
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,599
something like that that the building so

1519
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,440
they have a great potential

1520
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,839
uh for that and the town has a great

1521
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:00,800
potential for revenue

1522
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,280
that you that you know that's actually

1523
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,079
one of my

1524
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:06,160
concerns and it would be nice i think if

1525
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,760
we could have a stipulation

1526
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,960
in there as far as a

1527
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,319
gradual time frame because since

1528
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:16,640
we don't have any concrete figures

1529
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,160
because they don't they've never done

1530
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,839
this before

1531
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:21,200
they're going to have their business

1532
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,800
you're saying and i've heard them say

1533
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,319
too they're going to have

1534
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:28,160
another we go a certain amount of

1535
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,800
years a certain time frame before they

1536
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,400
can't just like all of a sudden you have

1537
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,559
another one another one another one

1538
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:37,200
and you know what they mean it's like

1539
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,800
not

1540
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,880
or do we not have anything to say on

1541
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,319
that the time

1542
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:44,640
the town of dayton i mean well they we

1543
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,240
would be signing a host uh agreement

1544
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:46,640
with

1545
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,960
whatever new company comes in for

1546
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,079
leasing so

1547
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,280
right now we just made the agreement

1548
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,520
with pure oasis who's talking about 100

1549
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,720
000 square feet

1550
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,760
and quite frankly they may start off

1551
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,640
with 50 000

1552
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,079
square feet but they their potential for

1553
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:01,280
them is a hundred thousand square feet

1554
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,000
and then they

1555
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,520
will expand well it seemed like they

1556
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,520
actually if i heard correctly they had

1557
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,200
like two or three other businesses that were actually

1558
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,200
interested in coming and doing the same

1559
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,150
thing that they're doing

1560
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,680
let's keep a lid on it you know

1561
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,800
for the first couple years see see how

1562
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,240
much police

1563
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,440
uh we need see how much you know just so

1564
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,359
we know what is this actually

1565
00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:34,079
are we doing better with them

1566
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:35,920
financially are we breaking you know

1567
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,599
what i mean as opposed to them getting

1568
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:39,599
another one and another one

1569
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:43,040
like see what happened get them and then

1570
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:43,440
maybe

1571
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
one on there yeah it's three percent of

1572
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,839
their gross sales so whenever they sell

1573
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:50,880
their product to another business

1574
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,680
i think uh my personal feeling is is

1575
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,079
that

1576
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:55,359
it's going to be difficult for us to

1577
00:53:55,359 --> 00:53:57,680
prove to three percent because there's a

1578
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,960
lot of different things

1579
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,240
uh so i don't think we're gonna that's

1580
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:01,839
why i say it'd be nice to see like

1581
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:03,040
literally facts and things

1582
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,040
but we know what we we what we can look

1583
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,160
at

1584
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,359
so if we have somebody here in the

1585
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:08,880
office here who's actually keeping track

1586
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,880
of the expenses that the town

1587
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,079
that person while they're doing that

1588
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,559
gets that's part of the

1589
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,559
uh the three percent uh that we'll be

1590
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:18,160
asking but it's the police system

1591
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,319
i can't you know who knows but i i don't

1592
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:21,520
think it's i think we're gonna be able

1593
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,160
to get

1594
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,559
like put put the brakes on a little bit

1595
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:28,160
i see this yeah i hear what you're

1596
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,760
saying my personal feeling is and i'm

1597
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,960
not talking about the board we need to

1598
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,880
bring revenue into town i see it all the

1599
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,319
time on facebook and everything else

1600
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:35,440
where i bring businesses

1601
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,280
in we're not forced to smoke the

1602
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,559
marijuana i'm not forcing

1603
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,160
anything like that it's going to be

1604
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,760
taken out of town it's going to go up

1605
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,000
it could be any businesses i'm not i'm

1606
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,960
not singling out

1607
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,960
marijuana and the way they're running

1608
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,200
the business however

1609
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,640
see if you want to like talk about

1610
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,240
marijuana the one thing that does

1611
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,400
concern me concerning marijuana

1612
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,240
is they were asked a few times in their

1613
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:01,440
um info thing that they did

1614
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,640
a couple weeks ago what they plan on

1615
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,040
doing as far as a filtration

1616
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,240
hvac type system for odor

1617
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,520
and i really didn't get again any

1618
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,559
actual specific

1619
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,640
unit that they're using name that

1620
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,960
they're using and the efficiency

1621
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,000
and the actual outcome

1622
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,040
that this is success has been used here

1623
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,920
and it's

1624
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,400
the air is you know it's a certain

1625
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,520
percentage

1626
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,640
it's clear yeah even again i think it'd

1627
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,680
be nice for them

1628
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,200
not nice i mean they should know exactly

1629
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,839
what system they're being put in but all

1630
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:43,040
of that

1631
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,079
has to do with if

1632
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:48,640
like you the towns people kind of give

1633
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:49,760
them the green light

1634
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,040
upon you know those are things that they

1635
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,799
have to satisfy correct

1636
00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:58,480
yes but that the the grant uh the

1637
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,440
it's the planning board that will

1638
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,960
actually give them the permit for this

1639
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:01,520
so it's not

1640
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,280
us to make that decision obviously we

1641
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,960
don't want order to be an issue

1642
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,720
and if you remember from that uh it was

1643
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,160
i believe it was last week

1644
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,760
they had two options but they didn't say

1645
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,280
which one they were going to use right

1646
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,240
what they did say what

1647
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,160
might not this one might not work that

1648
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,319
well if they went so that it's just

1649
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:19,280
when you start getting into maybe maybe

1650
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,040
not

1651
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,400
but what they did say was that because

1652
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,240
something that they had has experience

1653
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:25,119
in this field and they're going to

1654
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:27,040
listen to the consultant so that

1655
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,400
whatever mistakes they've made in the

1656
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,839
past they could someone said this

1657
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:30,559
filtration

1658
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:31,920
system doesn't work this is the one that

1659
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,160
we're going to go with i'm obviously i

1660
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,520
can't speak for the board but

1661
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,359
we're not going to tolerate odor coming

1662
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:39,280
from uh from over there

1663
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,599
quite frankly so but it is that it is

1664
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:42,640
the planning board that

1665
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,280
would impose that as like a condition on

1666
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,280
any special permit and they i just want

1667
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,480
to be clear they act completely

1668
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,079
independent from us they are

1669
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:51,599
they run their own elections they are

1670
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:53,599
their own elected officials so they

1671
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:57,440
would impose those conditions and i would assume they would have a

1672
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,640
public hearing

1673
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,240
um that night when they were going to

1674
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,160
vote and everybody could come that was

1675
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,839
interested and and i think that that's a

1676
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:05,680
good point i think that's fair

1677
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,559
um we don't want it to smell obviously

1678
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:08,960
and

1679
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,480
if they're not going to be the only ones

1680
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,079
over there i think it's very

1681
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:15,440
fair to to say that actually

1682
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,440
uh leanna's hand up first i just i just

1683
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,040
had a real quick question um what kind

1684
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,720
of oversight beyond

1685
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,559
the department of revenue and their tax

1686
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:26,960
returns does the town

1687
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,000
yeah to ensure that we're actually

1688
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,920
getting yeah i know that they give us

1689
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,880
they're going to have to give us an

1690
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,280
annual

1691
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,720
report that we'll all get the

1692
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,400
opportunity to take a look at

1693
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,520
okay uh we gotta

1694
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:52,470
say trust us

1695
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,480
and for a long time we got you know

1696
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,079
pretty good money from them on an annual

1697
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:56,960
basis

1698
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,520
under no firm obligation and then that

1699
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,880
all came to an end

1700
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,640
so i just want to be sure that we don't

1701
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,079
go into this

1702
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:07,760
blindly and remember how that can

1703
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,319
actually go yeah and that's what we

1704
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:11,680
thought we were going to get

1705
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,599
right if i remember correctly it was a

1706
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:15,440
10-year agreement 100 000

1707
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,559
a year uh not geared for anything so the

1708
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:19,680
town actually i

1709
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,720
actually think was the boris left and

1710
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,079
decided where that money was going to go

1711
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:23,200
which i'm not

1712
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,640
too crazy about uh so uh

1713
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,400
this is your five-year agreement and

1714
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,240
then it gets renewed and uh

1715
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,480
like mr mueller autonomous said that we

1716
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,160
get to see exactly what we've had to use

1717
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,599
for expenses we

1718
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,119
i don't believe we keep we can go higher

1719
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:38,799
than three percent that's the state yeah

1720
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:40,880
it does yeah that's the ceiling

1721
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,359
with the highest figure hopefully we can

1722
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:44,240
show that

1723
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,040
yeah we've used that three percent if

1724
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,319
now it's gonna be a little less but

1725
00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:51,599
that would be our goal so

1726
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:56,069
any other questions

1727
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:58,400
okay we'll go to the next item uh

1728
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,520
minutes uh

1729
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,040
last week was there anything on there

1730
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,559
just before can you move on

1731
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:05,920
let's see it's chuck oh yeah um

1732
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,839
i also like we're in public to comment

1733
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:09,200
at this point correct yes

1734
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,640
okay uh so we do have um a hand

1735
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,920
uh from jaws from from justin travis our

1736
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,200
library director

1737
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,920
okay and i'll ask um i'll ask her to

1738
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,280
unmute so she can

1739
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:27,990
speak jasmine mr virus

1740
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,799
no i was i don't really need to say

1741
00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:32,400
anything the conversation had shifted

1742
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,160
away from the library so i didn't want

1743
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:34,640
to

1744
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,880
bring it back when um

1745
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,559
it had already shifted so okay wait

1746
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:46,079
thank you very much

1747
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,760
go to the next item minutes approval of

1748
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,359
them well we already did that public

1749
00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:49,839
input

1750
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:51,359
we're going to go into executive session

1751
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:53,440
under massachusetts general law chapter

1752
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,119
38 section 1

1753
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:59,040
21 a 3 3 to discuss the strategy with

1754
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,559
respect to collective blogging or

1755
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:02,559
litigation if an open meeting may have

1756
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,240
a detrimental effect on the bargaining

1757
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,079
or litigating position of the public

1758
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:06,799
body

1759
01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:09,119
and the chair so declares i declare in

1760
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:11,040
negotiations with the dayton police

1761
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,000
officers mass

1762
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,200
cop cop 30c we will not be coming back

1763
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,720
into a public meeting so we're going to

1764
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,240
have to go into executive

1765
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,240
session and um that will be it uh

1766
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,760
for the night so i'll entertain

1767
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,480
promotions so moved so a second

1768
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,040
are we going to have public input we

1769
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,640
hope we just have public

1770
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,760
input we have a couple more things we

1771
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:34,640
want to do

1772
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,079
okay i'll retract my emotions

1773
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:40,160
okay well i had asked if there's any

1774
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,440
more public input there was any

1775
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,839
i'm sorry that that's that's fine is

1776
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:45,599
there more on that topic

1777
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,799
another topic that we were on yeah okay

1778
01:00:48,799 --> 01:00:52,870
any public input on anything else

1779
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,040
is this is this anything anything

1780
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,400
i see the policy here i live on forestry

1781
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,920
in the troublemaker area uh

1782
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,200
the firing range you know i was missing

1783
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,079
vietnam

1784
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:11,359
there i thought it was back in vietnam

1785
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:14,720
two days just that gun range was crazy

1786
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,200
mm-hmm when was this you don't mind me

1787
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:17,920
asking yeah

1788
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,960
this week i usually hear it when it's

1789
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,880
like that and i didn't

1790
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,760
work working in the yard two days just

1791
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,760
going and going

1792
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,640
didn't we asked a while ago we called

1793
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,160
the police station

1794
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,359
they said they had leased at the time

1795
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:40,000
we have an agreement with them that we do mutual trainings we do some things

1796
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,079
in time but we do allow them to use the

1797
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:43,520
range but we were

1798
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,839
i thought we were supposed to release i

1799
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:46,799
thought that public was supposed to be

1800
01:01:46,799 --> 01:01:47,200
never

1801
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,799
right now can we not use that red flag

1802
01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:58,549
not

1803
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:00,079
it usually happens in september so

1804
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,079
that's why i'm surprised that

1805
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:06,640
this is september but that's a good uh

1806
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,200
it wasn't my understanding it was awful

1807
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,000
it was off

1808
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,559
suddenly uh just listen to gunfire for

1809
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:14,000
two days

1810
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,599
it wasn't a weekend though right now

1811
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:18,870
yeah during the weekend yeah

1812
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,160
during the day yeah okay all day

1813
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,319
we were we had asked that

1814
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:29,119
a statement be made on the facebook page

1815
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:30,000
before

1816
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,839
the gun activity were to occur just to

1817
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:33,599
notify people in the area because some

1818
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:34,640
people don't drive

1819
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,880
down there and notice the red flag so we

1820
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,079
can

1821
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:39,920
certainly ensure that that happens going

1822
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,520
forward and i thank you for letting us

1823
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,680
know

1824
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,280
okay another thing the speed limit signs

1825
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:47,520
of

1826
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,720
forestry where are we at with that

1827
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,960
i mean we did a traffic study november

1828
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,440
uh 2019.

1829
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,520
i mean should we go to congress to get a

1830
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,839
speedo

1831
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:02,240
i mean i'm not sure what effect they'll

1832
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,760
have on mass d.o.t but

1833
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,240
it couldn't hurt but in all seriousness

1834
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,200
yeah are we gonna

1835
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,640
have a bylaw that we're gonna present at

1836
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,000
the special town meeting in october to

1837
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,119
grant us permission to set

1838
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:18,559
to establish speed safety zones

1839
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:20,880
specifically the one that has been

1840
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,960
discussed has been for pleasant street

1841
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,309
so far

1842
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:28,480
i think i talked to fred about this is

1843
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,079
that the 20 miles an hour

1844
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:33,349
yes

1845
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:37,359
the average speed is 41 right now

1846
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:39,119
um forestry you're talking about how far

1847
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:41,440
is it and we walk there constantly

1848
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,400
and if you know i gotta i'm gonna get an

1849
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,680
app for my phone will

1850
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,680
tell me the speed because a lot of times

1851
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,599
they're over 40

1852
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:52,480
and to put a 20 mile an hour speeds on

1853
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,240
there

1854
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,480
is that are they going to do it i don't

1855
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,920
think that's what you're talking about

1856
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,200
you're just asking for

1857
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,440
speed limit signs for the 30 miles per

1858
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,520
hour which i believe is the limit right

1859
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,520
so we can if you if you can put it on

1860
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,119
the agenda we can ask tom

1861
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:09,520
uh oh superintendent ferry is here is he

1862
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,240
still here

1863
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,520
oh okay is there a chance we could

1864
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,599
put a stop sign in the middle that has

1865
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,720
been just that has been discussed before

1866
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,000
we discussed that yeah

1867
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,079
we think that that may be a problem yeah

1868
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,160
no we've discussed that in the past

1869
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,559
uh we think some studies show that if

1870
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,079
you put stop signs then what happens is

1871
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:32,000
people stop and then they speed up

1872
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,280
actually drive faster they get to the

1873
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,440
next stop circle back

1874
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,559
absolutely i do i do

1875
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:41,599
feel personally

1876
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:42,799
the other thing is i've noticed that

1877
01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:44,720
we've asked the chief uh

1878
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,720
police to have more enforcement of this

1879
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,240
you know you can probably speed

1880
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,680
limit signs up but if you don't have

1881
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,599
enforcement it doesn't make any sense

1882
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:52,799
and i've noticed just the past couple

1883
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:54,559
days there's been cruises on different

1884
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:56,160
streets

1885
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:57,520
so i'm glad that they're out there in

1886
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,280
the community now and uh hopefully

1887
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,119
i've seen given those uh speeders

1888
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:02,319
tickets but uh

1889
01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:04,079
interesting about far street when they

1890
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,920
did that study and i believe the

1891
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,920
police department had actually stopped

1892
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,960
some people

1893
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,880
uh a lot of those people that we stopped

1894
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,720
for speeding were residents of

1895
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,000
forestry that's uh that's a little bit

1896
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:16,559
of

1897
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:19,200
the problem there but that might

1898
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,960
personally no i'm not saying it's europe

1899
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,400
my personal feeling is that i don't care

1900
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,760
where you live if you're speeding it you

1901
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:24,799
get a ticket

1902
01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:27,119
yeah yeah and that's that's how you get

1903
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:28,400
the message out

1904
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,400
right but you're correct that forestry

1905
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,440
was actually brought this to our

1906
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,160
attention the

1907
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,079
full speeding thing was street foreign i

1908
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:37,520
don't have to see it there we go

1909
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,680
seven or eight one of us uh forest

1910
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,039
street pleasant street

1911
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:42,720
uh i'm not sure i think part of william

1912
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,720
street was correct fremont street

1913
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,599
portland

1914
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:52,390
barton maple i believe yeah

1915
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,760
i just heard the other night there was

1916
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,680
another marijuana discussion

1917
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,520
that's going to go on william street and

1918
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,039
they were concerned about these

1919
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:02,839
speed on william street is a nightmare

1920
01:06:02,839 --> 01:06:11,349
so

1921
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:13,359
yeah i've noticed that yeah i mean

1922
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:14,880
especially with that construction of the

1923
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:15,440
house

1924
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,240
on the corner yeah well that's on uh

1925
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,720
technically tremont yeah

1926
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,720
but it there's constantly tripped it's a

1927
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,079
cut through

1928
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:27,119
from time to time correct

1929
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:30,160
does it fly down there to us and i've

1930
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,000
seen them

1931
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,440
full disclosure i'm involved in the

1932
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,039
historical side which is at the center

1933
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:36,319
of william street right i swear there's

1934
01:06:36,319 --> 01:06:37,760
gonna be accidents almost every day and

1935
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:38,960
a lot of times there's big tractor

1936
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:39,760
trailers that

1937
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,160
just come down down the hill and uh if

1938
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,680
you're leaving center to go on william

1939
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,240
street you know

1940
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,160
this is a hill you may not see it but

1941
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,760
they come down so fast

1942
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,359
something's going to happen there so so

1943
01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:51,039
i also want you to know that we have

1944
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:52,079
discussed with the

1945
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,880
um just casually with the chief of

1946
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,680
police

1947
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,119
um we've bandied ideas like

1948
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:00,799
dedicating someone to traffic

1949
01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:02,400
enforcement or having

1950
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,520
part of someone's dedicated role traffic

1951
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,880
enforcement being one of their

1952
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,400
priorities they could

1953
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,640
earn their own salary it wouldn't be

1954
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,400
much trouble

1955
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,240
i mean you could you could probably pay

1956
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,680
for a car or a salary

1957
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,160
from the tickets maybe then it would

1958
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,599
slow down

1959
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:21,599
yeah i just know that i got a commitment

1960
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:23,119
from the chief that uh

1961
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:24,319
because we just hired two police

1962
01:07:24,319 --> 01:07:26,079
officers so i said can we get them out

1963
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:27,039
on the streets because that's what

1964
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:28,799
people are talking about

1965
01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:30,640
there isn't that much crime in that not

1966
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,319
that there isn't crime but there is you

1967
01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:33,440
know there isn't that much

1968
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,039
but speeding is a big issue for a lot of

1969
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:37,280
people and if you got young children

1970
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,270
yeah yeah

1971
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,200
we that's a very good crowd here this

1972
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,000
evening i commend you and thank you for

1973
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,960
your participation in government and i'm

1974
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,319
going to throw this out

1975
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:52,960
i don't have an answer but i welcome

1976
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,720
your input

1977
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,200
i've heard all kinds of discussions

1978
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:57,760
about

1979
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,799
40 30 20 mile an hour speed limits but i

1980
01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:02,559
scratch my head and i say

1981
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:04,880
you could make a tent but if there's no

1982
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,240
one to enforce it

1983
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,760
doesn't matter you're not signing there

1984
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,280
right now at 40 and it's not being

1985
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,480
enforced

1986
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,760
and i'm throwing this out for feedback

1987
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,080
not because i've drawn an opinion and i

1988
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,600
know other communities

1989
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,400
do quotas and i'm questioning whether or

1990
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:21,520
not

1991
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,679
a quota system put in place with the

1992
01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:25,520
police department

1993
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,120
may not be necessary to get

1994
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,839
speed under control in this town i have

1995
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:33,759
a thought

1996
01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:36,719
regarding that well we only have so much

1997
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:37,520
money and

1998
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,839
you have two police officers on duty at

1999
01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:41,040
any given time

2000
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:45,679
in this town that's what we have

2001
01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:48,480
and they have to fight in scratch for

2002
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:50,080
every nickel and dime that they get i

2003
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,359
understand that their

2004
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,839
request for sixty two thousand dollars

2005
01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:55,359
was it correct me if i'm wrong

2006
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:58,000
it was for a car another cruiser and

2007
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,520
some repairs or something

2008
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,040
i understand that was shot down at the

2009
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,359
last time maybe forty five thousand was

2010
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:05,040
approved yeah but yeah

2011
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,880
a full total wasn't it was recommended

2012
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,279
over 45 rather than 62 000 right

2013
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:11,440
and it's still 17 shy of where they

2014
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:12,480
wanted to be and

2015
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:17,669
probably needed to be when you when you

2016
01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:19,040
look at the individual cruisers and

2017
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,719
things like that

2018
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:24,239
those things take a beating they're all local the brakes are getting

2019
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:25,359
shot every uh

2020
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:28,719
every so often those those are city

2021
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:30,080
miles those are hard miles those

2022
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,719
vehicles are being driven

2023
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:35,120
so they need more maintenance and and

2024
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,120
they need more money for it

2025
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,040
so where does that come from well you

2026
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,040
ask about a quota system and a quota

2027
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,960
system the problem is

2028
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,759
it becomes almost unethical it really

2029
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:48,239
does it it draws out the the

2030
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:51,520
worst instincts in people and one of the

2031
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,719
things that we don't want is to go from

2032
01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:56,719
what we have now which is relative

2033
01:09:56,719 --> 01:09:58,800
freedom to you know this

2034
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,400
overarching police state where if you

2035
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,400
drive 21 miles an hour in a 20 mile an

2036
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,600
hour zone you're going to get pulled

2037
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,159
over

2038
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:07,199
nobody wants that either so there's got

2039
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:08,320
to be some balance

2040
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,440
um you know periodic enforcement should

2041
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:15,679
be enough to kind of deter most speeders but a

2042
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:17,360
quota system

2043
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,440
it just it just reeks of a police state

2044
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:21,120
and i wouldn't tolerate that for a

2045
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,800
minute

2046
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,320
i think it's all to your point

2047
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,080
selectment hall i think it's and i'm not

2048
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,360
giving my opinion on

2049
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,960
court although i do agree with a lot of

2050
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,120
the points you made and i think

2051
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,640
probably a lot of people will agree with

2052
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,440
them but i just think that

2053
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:36,960
the reason why people don't and this has

2054
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,800
been said at meetings before the reason

2055
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,480
why people are less likely to speak

2056
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:42,880
speed in towns like berkeley is because

2057
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,880
they have a reputation

2058
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,120
of being strong on and i'm not talking

2059
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,480
about speeding you know

2060
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:51,040
21 and a 20 i mean you know going 30 and

2061
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,880
a 20 you'll probably get pulled over

2062
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,040
at any point they come out of nowhere

2063
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,320
and i think that

2064
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,040
it's gonna take some time but if we can

2065
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,000
dedicate

2066
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,080
so if we can afford i should be clear if

2067
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,080
we can afford to dedicate more resources

2068
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,000
to traffic enforcement we should because

2069
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,760
that will go a long way to

2070
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,400
having that in my opinion reputation

2071
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,320
that if you speed in this town

2072
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,000
you're going to get pulled over and i

2073
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,159
think that is

2074
01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:17,679
when a word gets out because we still

2075
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:19,440
live in in a small town where

2076
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,000
word gets around in that way then you

2077
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,719
might see

2078
01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:25,679
less of that speeding just a thought and

2079
01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:26,320
to

2080
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,840
if i may um speed grants

2081
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,360
they can apply for it and get extra

2082
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,199
money to put on an officer from the

2083
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:34,320
state

2084
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,000
in something called the speed grant i

2085
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,080
don't know exactly how it works

2086
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,120
but if if you really wanted that extra

2087
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,719
enforcement that's that's all they would

2088
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:44,000
really have to do is

2089
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,280
apply for a speech man but i i don't

2090
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,040
know exactly

2091
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,880
how any of that would work i'm sure we

2092
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,239
can look into it about that

2093
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:53,520
in the hallway a few minutes ago you'd

2094
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,920
be the expert on that

2095
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,440
that's a good idea we can definitely

2096
01:11:57,440 --> 01:11:58,719
discuss it with you here for the

2097
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:00,080
executive sessions

2098
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,440
that's what we have yeah i also in

2099
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:04,000
trouble

2100
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,600
a little bit with the quotas too because

2101
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,800
towards the end of the month if you're

2102
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,040
doing a monthly uh then all of a sudden

2103
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,000
they're gonna be stopping

2104
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,600
speeders but you could speak beginning

2105
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,669
the month you're not getting stopped so

2106
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:26,550
but it's it's it's an idea so some will

2107
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,080
main street so i call main street

2108
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,280
i live there around let's say midnight

2109
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,679
to four o'clock the

2110
01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:37,040
i might be up in the middle of the night

2111
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,120
and all of a sudden

2112
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,320
i mean these people are probably going

2113
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,400
100 miles an hour i'm serious

2114
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,159
and if you had the offices in those nice

2115
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:46,239
specific spots right near the bridge and

2116
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:46,880
all that

2117
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,239
they would make a mint and another thing

2118
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:50,719
one more thing is that there's a

2119
01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:53,920
relatively new uh 45 mile an hour sign

2120
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,880
going up towards williams street okay

2121
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,360
fine

2122
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,199
there was one on the same on the other

2123
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:00,800
side going this way

2124
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,520
towards 138 i said 35 miles an hour and

2125
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,679
that mysteriously disappeared

2126
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:07,360
i don't know what happened it'll be

2127
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,120
wonderful if we could get that one back

2128
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,320
because they're going this way the same

2129
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,920
way they think it's 45.

2130
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,600
was it i thought it was i thought it was

2131
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,199
william street 35

2132
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:19,440
i thought it was 30 going into uh 138

2133
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:21,199
right when you go up 138 of course up

2134
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:22,560
the hill that's 30 right right we all

2135
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:23,120
know that

2136
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,360
and then at a certain point and my house

2137
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,159
becomes

2138
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:28,880
is not weird is this true it's 45 but

2139
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:29,520
then

2140
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,199
on the other side going that way towards

2141
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,520
the um the library it's 35 then it goes

2142
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,199
to 30 at the library

2143
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:36,800
so that sign across the street from my

2144
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,640
sign in front of my house

2145
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,719
is missing for 35 and i'd love to have

2146
01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:42,080
that gentleman take care of that

2147
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,360
tomorrow please

2148
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,880
yeah because it's i didn't realize it

2149
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,630
was

2150
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,000
and that 50 mile per hour sign on um

2151
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,000
yes william street had disappeared does

2152
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,920
anyone remember for like months and then

2153
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:56,560
it

2154
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:03,669
came back so it appeared

2155
01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:05,280
and if you live on main street and i

2156
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,600
don't uh you live on main street

2157
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,280
it's not a very good road so imagine

2158
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,880
once it's paved

2159
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,640
oh what it's going to be like we should

2160
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,239
address it before yes

2161
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:16,239
it's like it's like starships flying by

2162
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:17,679
my house i'm telling you to the audience

2163
01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:20,640
i'm like it's that fast i'm just like

2164
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,960
yeah okay tomorrow right well i'm

2165
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:24,239
impressed that you're up at midnight

2166
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:25,440
because i haven't seen midnight in such

2167
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:31,669
a long time

2168
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:35,199
are there any other questions

2169
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:38,480
um yep

2170
01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:39,679
i shouldn't say questions in the

2171
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:42,239
comments regarding the zoom feeds and

2172
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:43,280
everything like that

2173
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,120
so i i don't think it's much of a secret

2174
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:46,480
that you know we

2175
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:49,040
um want to see lenny up there and

2176
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,199
everything and all his glory

2177
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:52,560
not that we don't want to see you guys

2178
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,320
either i get it

2179
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,679
no offense we don't want to see

2180
01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:58,000
ourselves either let's see

2181
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,199
um at the last meeting you guys had on

2182
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:01,840
zoom

2183
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,159
we couldn't see when we couldn't hear

2184
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:04,880
him

2185
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,360
um i i could hear brett just fine up

2186
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:08,480
here ken just fine

2187
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:18,630
but i couldn't

2188
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,640
yes we did we just think we rectify that

2189
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,719
we think we did the other day we had uh

2190
01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:25,679
we did a sample

2191
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:28,320
zoom it was me and it was uh robert

2192
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,840
woods and it was a third i forget who

2193
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,239
the third person was

2194
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,640
jonathan gale at home on zoom and they

2195
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,440
did different

2196
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:36,640
things with the volume and stuff like

2197
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,760
that and we were able it was a little

2198
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,040
bit of an echo

2199
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,199
but with exception that we could hear

2200
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:42,640
people in different spots

2201
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,280
can you can you do like a microphone

2202
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,080
between

2203
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,080
each of you we used to have one what

2204
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,199
happened last time

2205
01:15:49,199 --> 01:16:04,709
we have one microphone and something

2206
01:16:04,719 --> 01:16:06,320
so yeah there's a few things and number

2207
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,000
one with regards to

2208
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,199
the microphone that was used at the i'm

2209
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:11,840
at the last

2210
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,840
meeting uh uh that mic is set up

2211
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,199
i'm i'm actually to the new technology

2212
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:21,120
on top of the tv

2213
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,800
um in the last four days we've been

2214
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,880
working a lot on this issue because we

2215
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,280
understand that it's a major issue

2216
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,480
and i like what we have found is i'm a

2217
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,960
few things number one

2218
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,440
uh they actually they actually have

2219
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,040
additional microphones which we can

2220
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,640
order

2221
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,960
uh it's like oh so each member of the

2222
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,800
board of selectmen is able to have their

2223
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,440
own dedicated mic to get their audio um

2224
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:50,800
oh yeah like so like we're already on

2225
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,120
top of that but i thought we already

2226
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,080
we had these microphones that i didn't

2227
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,120
mean to cut you off but

2228
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,360
i was just under the impression they one

2229
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,400
sat here

2230
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,040
and then he had one and then excuse me

2231
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,520
selectman hall had one as well

2232
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,120
so what happened to those because we

2233
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,120
already had a solution one over there was there was two there were at

2234
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,400
least two yeah

2235
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,560
i thought there were three yeah so the

2236
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,960
original i feel like proper right now

2237
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,960
solving this so the original auxiliary

2238
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,960
microphones they don't actually

2239
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:21,840
interface

2240
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,040
with uh with the new

2241
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,760
or the new platform oh you know that we

2242
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,280
bought the show

2243
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,679
however in the past however in the past

2244
01:17:33,679 --> 01:17:35,440
day and a half based on the testing that

2245
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:38,480
we did i think yesterday we also

2246
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:40,960
i like have found out i believe what is

2247
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,520
actually the root of the issue

2248
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,640
i like in the root of the issue i i uh

2249
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,320
like actually goes

2250
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,640
oh you know oh like it goes into like a

2251
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,360
comcast issue

2252
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,480
uh i like it uh like actually with a

2253
01:17:56,480 --> 01:18:00,400
bandwidth of a wireless

2254
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,159
i like over the zoom oh you know like it

2255
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:06,880
basically exhausts itself like in causes

2256
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,229
way more feedback

2257
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:11,920
oh you know than necessary and that's

2258
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,320
why when we do the individual test

2259
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,320
everything works

2260
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,000
absolutely perfect but then when

2261
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,239
everyone's logged on

2262
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:23,199
uh oh you through comcast everything

2263
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:23,920
basically

2264
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,440
overloads our bandwidth so like in

2265
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:28,080
talking

2266
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,600
with uh and talking

2267
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:31,840
[Music]

2268
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,480
with our it administrator he has already

2269
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:37,360
set up a way for the fiber that

2270
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,719
like is in town hall all right to cross

2271
01:18:40,719 --> 01:18:42,800
over the complex and into old town hall

2272
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,199
so we can set up directly to that fiber

2273
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:49,360
because i noticed it slows down and then it speeds up and then everybody

2274
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,520
sounds like alvin the chipmunks

2275
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,640
oh yes we plug in now to the fiber

2276
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,400
rather than logging on oh you know like

2277
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,360
oh oh you know like oh like how cute

2278
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,360
actually through comcast wireless we

2279
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,800
should knock one would be good and

2280
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,199
that's what we're gonna

2281
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:09,120
i like actually planned to do because

2282
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,239
was there a timetable

2283
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,640
that that could possibly possibly be

2284
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,080
done

2285
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,640
um i believe the fiber is already there

2286
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,080
and we just

2287
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,760
oh i can we just have to make sure we're

2288
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,440
plugging into it just from what i am

2289
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:22,480
just utilizing

2290
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:26,080
exactly um we had a call the other day

2291
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,120
um during the day and um

2292
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,760
i was i couldn't come to old town hall

2293
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,520
and i had to do the meeting over zoom

2294
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,600
everybody else was at old town hall

2295
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,480
um and i could hear everyone it was a

2296
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:40,480
little tough with the audience because

2297
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:42,480
if you're not at a microphone it just it

2298
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:44,320
sounds a little bit echoey

2299
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,360
but um to address your point about not

2300
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,040
being able to see selectmen hall i think

2301
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,159
that's because

2302
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:52,880
we sit at a straight desk and you can

2303
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,199
see

2304
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:54,880
obviously my big head and you can see

2305
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,239
ken but he

2306
01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:58,480
gets um you can't see you because we're

2307
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:00,800
all sitting in a straight line so maybe

2308
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,159
for the next meeting we could just

2309
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:04,000
slightly move the table

2310
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,920
not a lot just like a little bit this

2311
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,440
way so that we're sitting

2312
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:09,760
like this and not like this and then you

2313
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,760
would be able to see everyone

2314
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,600
just the thought because the camera is

2315
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:14,960
like oh the camera is right there they

2316
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:15,280
say

2317
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,600
would be right here on the wall tv and

2318
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,880
the camera's above it

2319
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,719
so it's going to get this is why brett

2320
01:20:20,719 --> 01:20:23,040
actually asked for this spot

2321
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:27,910
for us

2322
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:42,750
i'm playing musical chairs

2323
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,840
[Laughter]

2324
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,960
yes i don't like soon to be

2325
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,320
if i could be honest i don't like zoom i

2326
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,960
prefer this quite frankly

2327
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,199
uh but while we have zoom you have to

2328
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:54,159
deal with it

2329
01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:56,159
i'm sorry interrupt you no no i just let

2330
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,550
the help

2331
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,360
i had requested the second microphone i

2332
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,400
understand there is an interface problem

2333
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,480
i also wonder if um

2334
01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:11,840
a booster to the internet

2335
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,520
at the old town hall would

2336
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:19,440
help strengthen the signal

2337
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:21,120
do you know what might also help is a

2338
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,880
stern call to

2339
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,120
that our governmental affairs rep at

2340
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,040
comcast i forget his name i will get

2341
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,320
that contact

2342
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,199
information and let him know that we're

2343
01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:33,360
having difficulty streaming our lives

2344
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,040
so this isn't like a resident calling

2345
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,639
who wants to watch more no this is

2346
01:21:36,639 --> 01:21:37,840
important this is you know

2347
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,159
yep i would do that i'll be strong and

2348
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:41,600
let them know because maybe he's not

2349
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,000
aware

2350
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,360
that our our bandwidth is not is not

2351
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,760
sufficient to have a public meeting

2352
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,120
it doesn't make any sense there's no

2353
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,520
reason so um i believe his name is mike

2354
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,120
i will get that and we can call him

2355
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,400
okay thank you good point is there any

2356
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:56,800
more

2357
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,080
uh public uh rafa developing um a couple

2358
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:00,960
of days ago

2359
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,239
the uh published an article about

2360
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:08,470
the possibility of diamond reasoning

2361
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:11,840
what is your word yes i i brought it up

2362
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:12,560
at the uh

2363
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,960
the last meeting last uh last week we

2364
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,480
had it was a proclamation for

2365
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:19,199
great uh gay pride month and i brought

2366
01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:20,880
up that i'm thinking of i'm seriously

2367
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,000
thinking of bringing it

2368
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,600
uh before the board of second to vote on

2369
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,440
it will be a public hearing

2370
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:26,800
it will probably not be in a little room

2371
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,199
like this possibly at the school one of

2372
01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:30,159
the schools

2373
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:31,920
and people will have input on it and

2374
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,239
they can for or against

2375
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:37,040
uh so just from uh so you know what my

2376
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,239
position is

2377
01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:39,920
uh i'm not talking about putting a gay

2378
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,760
pride flag on a flagpole out there which

2379
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:42,239
has the

2380
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:45,199
american flag and the pow mia flag i

2381
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:46,560
would uh prefer not

2382
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,800
a separate flagpole either but if you

2383
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,320
walk into the building to the

2384
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:51,520
uh where the door is to the right

2385
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,600
there's a bench and then there's a wall

2386
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,800
and i would ask you know i would support

2387
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,159
putting a gay pride flag in june uh on

2388
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:00,880
that uh

2389
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,679
the building there so i haven't decided

2390
01:23:03,679 --> 01:23:04,239
with

2391
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:05,840
i've talked to our town administrator

2392
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,760
with thinking about the logistics of

2393
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,120
having the public hearing

2394
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:10,480
i will then bring it back to the board

2395
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,400
to decide whether or not this is the way

2396
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,320
we want to proceed as well as

2397
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,320
the date and all that kind of stuff in

2398
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,480
the place and then uh he'll be the

2399
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,120
public will

2400
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,639
be made aware of them excuse me

2401
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:25,280
it may not be displayed this month it's

2402
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:25,840
not going to be

2403
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,440
no it's not going to be this week no

2404
01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:28,960
it's it's not going to be

2405
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,440
displayed this month if i'm part of the

2406
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:32,960
human rights

2407
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,480
commission i'm the liaison person for

2408
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:35,840
the voter selectmen we discussed this

2409
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,760
maybe in february or march

2410
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,760
i didn't think we should do it this year

2411
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,040
this quickly there needs to be

2412
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,320
conversations

2413
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,480
and uh so that's why um i've asked the

2414
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:45,440
board that we

2415
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:46,719
i presented to the board that we're

2416
01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:48,000
going to have a public hearing so that

2417
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,520
people can come

2418
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:54,400
and express their position uh but it's definitely not going to come up

2419
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,080
definitely won't be on

2420
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,830
we won't have time to have it here

2421
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,880
like when it's going to stop yeah well

2422
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,560
hopefully it stops when we actually have

2423
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,080
the vote but i hear what you're saying

2424
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,120
i see the same stuff on on facebook so

2425
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,239
uh just so you know it will not be this

2426
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:13,120
month

2427
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:14,960
uh i will present it within the next

2428
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,120
couple of months we'll have a

2429
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,239
hearing on it and people can voice

2430
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:22,320
for or against and then the board will

2431
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,120
uh i feel strongly that the board

2432
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,880
should be able to make that decision

2433
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,639
that we're elected by

2434
01:24:28,639 --> 01:24:31,120
not necessarily by some of you but we're

2435
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,040
elected by the the residents of town

2436
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,040
and we should be able to have the

2437
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,800
courage to make a

2438
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,440
decision on that mr white so i listened

2439
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:39,920
in

2440
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,960
on the human rights committee and

2441
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,199
i recall you saying we shouldn't go

2442
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:47,520
forward with this because of the

2443
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,880
animosity that it causes and i think if

2444
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:51,600
we're gonna

2445
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,800
run up to a vote we're just gonna we're

2446
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,480
a divided country right now

2447
01:24:56,480 --> 01:24:59,360
we don't need any more division and we

2448
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:00,000
have our

2449
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,360
stars and stripes and you know our flag

2450
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,600
which is according to our constitution

2451
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,440
recognizing everybody whatever religion

2452
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:13,600
whatever race whatever color whatever

2453
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:14,719
creed

2454
01:25:14,719 --> 01:25:23,189
and why would we go with

2455
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:25,520
something that is going to further cause

2456
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:26,239
division

2457
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:29,360
and finger pointing and um

2458
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:33,199
name calling and you know

2459
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:36,239
we've been fine with it as we are

2460
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:38,880
and maybe what we need to do is start

2461
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,239
honoring what our

2462
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:42,719
founding fathers said that flag means

2463
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:44,080
and it does represent

2464
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,120
everybody my major in college

2465
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,480
was history and that's not what the

2466
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:51,199
final four that flag did not represent

2467
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:55,440
all of americans it represented whites

2468
01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:58,320
protestants and landowners that's what

2469
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,320
that's who it represented

2470
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,800
it didn't represent the slaves it is

2471
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,560
true

2472
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,920
it didn't represent slaves and right now

2473
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,280
the lgbtq

2474
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,560
community is being discriminated against

2475
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,360
i think you can't prove that there's far

2476
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,040
more acceptance

2477
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,080
now absolutely than there

2478
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,480
has ever been i think we've made huge

2479
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:23,520
strides

2480
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,159
both on people of color um

2481
01:26:27,159 --> 01:26:30,159
lgbtq um

2482
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:32,639
this is far it's far better than it's

2483
01:26:32,639 --> 01:26:33,760
ever been

2484
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:40,719
and this seems to be a rocking shoe to just cause

2485
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:43,600
division and i think you were right when

2486
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:44,400
you said that

2487
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,360
at the human rights committee meeting

2488
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:47,840
that

2489
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,760
going forward with this is probably more

2490
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,840
detrimental than positive

2491
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,280
i think what i said i don't have an

2492
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,040
exact quote but at that time i didn't

2493
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,360
think it was appropriate to

2494
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:58,880
but we're going to have that public

2495
01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,760
hearing we're going to have that

2496
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,480
discussion

2497
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:02,000
people can express whatever their

2498
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,600
opinions are on this i think we can

2499
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:04,800
avoid the

2500
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,719
divisiveness i i would hope that that

2501
01:27:06,719 --> 01:27:08,560
doesn't divide the time because

2502
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,000
you know small town will be like

2503
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,239
but it's also divided those that support

2504
01:27:14,239 --> 01:27:15,840
putting the flag up so

2505
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,199
it's uh it's left on health

2506
01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:23,760
i've said it over and over again

2507
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,520
i totally think it is unfair

2508
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:32,639
to spotlight and to put lbgtq

2509
01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:36,159
in the in the crosshairs this isn't

2510
01:27:36,159 --> 01:27:37,199
about

2511
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:40,719
them it's about all groups

2512
01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:44,840
in this community it's about

2513
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,840
african-americans it's about the native

2514
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,920
americans

2515
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,000
why aren't we coming up if we're going

2516
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:52,960
to come up

2517
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,239
with an all-inclusive policy

2518
01:27:56,239 --> 01:27:59,520
that if written and written well

2519
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,199
would include lbgtq so this discussion

2520
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:03,679
isn't

2521
01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:08,480
about them it's about all groups

2522
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:11,679
what is going to be accepted what isn't

2523
01:28:11,679 --> 01:28:12,840
going to be

2524
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,120
accepted i i think it's

2525
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,639
it has divided the town but it has put

2526
01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:24,000
the gay community in an

2527
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,120
unfavorable situation

2528
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,400
that the spotlight is on them

2529
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,440
in a negative way i haven't lived in

2530
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:36,320
this town for over 30 years

2531
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,360
and i've seen the discrimination

2532
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,600
and the vandalism and the out and out

2533
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,040
destruction

2534
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,440
and the driving out of native americans

2535
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:46,560
from this very

2536
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,000
from the that building

2537
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,040
from their pow-wow

2538
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,560
services out there on that track

2539
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,239
which had nothing to do to the

2540
01:28:58,239 --> 01:28:59,679
desecration

2541
01:28:59,679 --> 01:29:01,840
of their burial ground right behind my

2542
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,000
house

2543
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,830
right if we want to talk about

2544
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,760
disrespect there is a lot

2545
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,360
more documented discrimination

2546
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,960
against the native americans in this

2547
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,760
town than anything

2548
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:25,280
that i've heard with lbgtq in this town

2549
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:29,440
and to be honest with you

2550
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,480
an all-inclusive policy brings a lot

2551
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:36,830
more support

2552
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,920
because and i get really uncomfortable

2553
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,800
because it's spotlighting lgbtq

2554
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,440
they're a small group but there is

2555
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:46,560
strength

2556
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,800
and there is wisdom with all of the

2557
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,800
stakeholders coming together and having

2558
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:51,600
input

2559
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,669
in an all-inclusive policy

2560
01:29:55,679 --> 01:29:57,360
that is written in such a way that it

2561
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,920
includes all the shareholders

2562
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,560
so we're not talking about lgbtq we're

2563
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:03,840
talking about policy

2564
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,080
it is encompassing them and other groups

2565
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,639
my frustration they did it in time and

2566
01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:12,400
they did it very well

2567
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,040
so and they're willing to help us if we

2568
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:19,270
wanted to go there

2569
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,040
well i've stated my position yep so

2570
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,960
we were talking about division and the

2571
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:26,159
statements you had made

2572
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:30,159
mr are very divisive um

2573
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:32,320
you know my father was a world war ii

2574
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,480
veteran he stood up against hitler

2575
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:39,990
that old generation did under that flag

2576
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,719
and all three of us did the same thing

2577
01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:44,400
absolutely

2578
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,800
there are guys in this room yours truly

2579
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,480
included who put on that uniform and

2580
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:49,520
swore that oath

2581
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,000
and it hasn't expired and that oath

2582
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,040
wasn't too

2583
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,679
quite protestant i'm not a protestant

2584
01:30:55,679 --> 01:30:58,550
you know

2585
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,920
it's the american flag is inclusive of

2586
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:02,960
everyone

2587
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,840
did we have a rough start absolutely i

2588
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,920
was a history major myself

2589
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:09,280
one of the benefits i had in my

2590
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,199
education was learning logic

2591
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:15,199
from jesuits jesuits are brilliant

2592
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:18,320
at logic and

2593
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,800
the the if that argument the slippery

2594
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,639
slope is an absolutely valid

2595
01:31:22,639 --> 01:31:26,400
argument that okay

2596
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,120
this month we're going to have the gay

2597
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:30,480
pride flag

2598
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:33,040
next month what's to stop some lunatic

2599
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,880
from demand and he wants the confederate

2600
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,159
flag out there

2601
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:38,800
the month after that why not a swastika

2602
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,239
or the hammer and sickle or the most

2603
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:42,560
murderous regime in history the chinese

2604
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:51,750
are you comparing

2605
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,560
you have one flag and that one flag is

2606
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:55,600
the red white and blue

2607
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,000
it's flying out there now that's the

2608
01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,840
inclusive flag

2609
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,080
not all of these other flags what's to

2610
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,199
stop us from flying

2611
01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:06,239
just any flag a godston flag there's

2612
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:07,920
hundreds out there

2613
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,600
we've got one we've got more important

2614
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:10,960
things to talk about right

2615
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:12,480
you talked about speeding you talked

2616
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:14,239
about the library you talked about some

2617
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:15,760
really important things and i was with

2618
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,440
you on a lot of that stuff

2619
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:18,880
but when you start going off in that

2620
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,560
direction man i can't support you i

2621
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:21,040
can't be

2622
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,360
there so that's where we're at

2623
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,560
i think it's an important issue you

2624
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,719
talked about was it your grandfather in

2625
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:31,600
world war ii no my father your father

2626
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,360
you remember the service that the blacks

2627
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,199
were segregated they weren't allowed to

2628
01:32:35,199 --> 01:32:37,520
be with whites wasn't right

2629
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:38,719
absolutely wasn't right and it was

2630
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:40,400
president truman who corrected corrected

2631
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:41,199
that but

2632
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:43,679
there are times in our history uh when

2633
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:44,320
people have been

2634
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:45,520
discriminated against and we have

2635
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,239
technology i know that some people don't think that

2636
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:49,600
our kids or the students should be

2637
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:50,880
taught this stuff but this is our

2638
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:51,760
history

2639
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,320
good or bad we're always absolutely

2640
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:54,960
always

2641
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,639
most of the time we're moving forward

2642
01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:58,000
we're correcting the mistakes that we

2643
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,440
made in the past the way we treated

2644
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:01,840
uh native americans where we we treated

2645
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,040
blacks in america

2646
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,560
how about the way fbr treated the

2647
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:05,920
japanese you rounded them up and put

2648
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,120
them in concert absolutely

2649
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:08,960
that was that was disgusting you and i

2650
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,159
weren't around but that's that's history that's what i'm talking

2651
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:13,760
about so it's it's that kind of division

2652
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,360
we need to get past that crap

2653
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,600
and just red white and blue that's our

2654
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:18,960
flag and the discussion

2655
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,320
and and let's get on to the more

2656
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,320
important things the actual business

2657
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,639
of governing our tiny little charming

2658
01:33:24,639 --> 01:33:29,830
town mayberry

2659
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:37,910
there is also full of speeders

2660
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:42,239
there is also another concern that i

2661
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:43,440
have

2662
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:48,239
of putting any flag before a policy

2663
01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:52,229
and that is lawsuits

2664
01:33:52,239 --> 01:33:55,760
not just the risk and the expense

2665
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,159
of paying a judgment if we discriminate

2666
01:33:58,159 --> 01:33:59,280
against the group

2667
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:00,639
because i can think of a couple

2668
01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:02,320
controversial groups

2669
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,800
that are national groups that have

2670
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,320
lawyers on retainer

2671
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,440
that have no problem suing it down

2672
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:12,800
but if you take a look at our budget

2673
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:17,120
on a town budget with 2022

2674
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,000
there is no money budgeted for

2675
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,360
attorney's fees

2676
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,950
for lawsuits

2677
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,120
and i'm going to have a very difficult

2678
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,239
time

2679
01:34:28,239 --> 01:34:31,360
supporting paying a lawyer to

2680
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,280
defend against those lawsuits

2681
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,639
because people that

2682
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:41,040
want to go this direction you've been so

2683
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,000
on

2684
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,679
you will be sued the town of dayton

2685
01:34:45,679 --> 01:34:49,520
will not maybe suit will be sued

2686
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,639
so we better stop budgeting legal fees

2687
01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:54,400
for that

2688
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,679
mayor a solid policy you might prevent

2689
01:34:57,679 --> 01:34:58,880
that

2690
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,760
all right dr c yes so just a couple

2691
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,360
things so we actually never

2692
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,920
fund that settlements i believe it's a

2693
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,600
settlements um

2694
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,360
line we have a town council line and the

2695
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,800
reason is we

2696
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,800
as a board have felt it's more fair to

2697
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,520
bring those items via special article to

2698
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,040
the town meeting

2699
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,960
and have the voters decide if that's

2700
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,719
what we should be using the monies

2701
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:22,320
which is probably where that power

2702
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,239
should be i also want to say

2703
01:35:24,239 --> 01:35:27,360
um i'm not aware and everybody knows how

2704
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,639
i feel about this issue

2705
01:35:28,639 --> 01:35:30,080
i really don't have anything more to add

2706
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,719
about it um but that i'm not aware of

2707
01:35:32,719 --> 01:35:34,239
any town in the commonwealth that is

2708
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:35,440
currently flying

2709
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:40,000
an lgbtq pride flag that has been sued

2710
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,239
they have a part boston has a policy

2711
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:46,870
bridgewater doesn't

2712
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,280
is there any other yeah just the fact

2713
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:56,400
that this conversation keeps on

2714
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:57,760
coming up

2715
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,679
repeatedly i didn't bring it up tonight

2716
01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:01,520
but no i don't hear what you're saying

2717
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,280
we're talking about it uh people are

2718
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,199
concerned about it

2719
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:08,560
uh is a lack of focus so you did mention

2720
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,760
that you were elected to make decisions

2721
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,040
true but for town business

2722
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:20,159
and this topic is personal politics

2723
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:23,360
so it's a misuse of the power that the

2724
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:24,639
public

2725
01:36:24,639 --> 01:36:28,000
has provided you and it's a waste of

2726
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,910
resources for the town

2727
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,119
so we're wasting time resources

2728
01:36:35,119 --> 01:36:38,159
money talking about issues

2729
01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:43,520
related to personal politics it's actually shameful that we've been

2730
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,920
talking about this for months

2731
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,840
and you've changed your mind you know

2732
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,520
you you've also

2733
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,440
flip-flopped your opinion on this for

2734
01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:53,440
some reason which i'm not clear

2735
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:55,360
well some some of us wouldn't call it

2736
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,679
flip-flopping some of us

2737
01:36:57,679 --> 01:36:59,760
i i would hate to think that my opinions

2738
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,119
when i was 10 years old it's the same

2739
01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:06,239
opinions i have now and i grow i read i'm educated

2740
01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:08,080
so i'm willing to change my opinions and

2741
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,600
i wasn't shy about it i didn't go on

2742
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:10,960
facebook and just type something up this

2743
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,239
is my new opinion

2744
01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:14,719
i presented it at a public hearing and

2745
01:37:14,719 --> 01:37:15,360
i'm

2746
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:16,960
discussing it now and we'll have another

2747
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,719
public hearing to discuss this whole

2748
01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:20,800
issue that the residents of this town

2749
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,400
can come in and

2750
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,400
ask any questions say whatever

2751
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,719
statements they wish to say

2752
01:37:26,719 --> 01:37:29,119
so i don't consider it uh flip-flopping

2753
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:31,600
i did feel strongly at that time

2754
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,119
that i shouldn't be brought up and i

2755
01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:35,199
wanted to get back by this

2756
01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:37,119
gay pride month but i think it's an

2757
01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:38,480
issue that we can resolve one way or the

2758
01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:45,189
other that we should resolve as a town

2759
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:47,840
any other comments questions i just

2760
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,000
wanted to thank everyone for coming out

2761
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,440
and letting us know how you feel i

2762
01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:53,360
prefer this thing soon so

2763
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,520
yeah nice to hear everybody's voice

2764
01:37:55,520 --> 01:38:02,800
right yes and see your faces

2765
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,600
so if there is no other further public

2766
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:06,400
input

2767
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,159
i'll again ask for that motion uh

2768
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:13,360
entertaining yes okay uh mr chairman i

2769
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,920
make a motion that we enter into

2770
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,840
executive session under massachusetts

2771
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,880
general laws chapter 30a section 21a

2772
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,199
number three to discuss the strategy

2773
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:24,960
with respect to collective bargaining or

2774
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,800
litigation if an open meeting may have a

2775
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,719
detrimental effect on the bargaining

2776
01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:30,560
or litigating position of the public

2777
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,400
body and the chair so declares

2778
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,480
negotiations with dike and police

2779
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:35,440
officers mass

2780
01:38:35,440 --> 01:38:38,639
cop 306. a second

2781
01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:41,199
and i so declare we will not be

2782
01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:42,080
returning

2783
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,119
back to a public meeting

2784
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:46,719
i want to thank everybody for for coming

2785
01:38:46,719 --> 01:38:48,239
here we're meeting next week next

2786
01:38:48,239 --> 01:38:49,199
wednesday

2787
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:51,760
in over there we can hold 100 people so

2788
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:52,719
we can hold

2789
01:38:52,719 --> 01:38:56,239
have more people come if they wish uh so

2790
01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:57,840
i'll ask for a vote all those in favor

2791
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,320
say aye

2792
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,440
roll call dr c hi

2793
01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:05,679
and ken pacheco is also an eye thank you

2794
01:39:05,679 --> 01:39:11,679
very much thank you