[0:02] you're recording also on how you
[0:05] and zoom uh yeah yes i can hit record i
[0:08] can just record
[0:11] and we're also live on youtube mr chair
[0:13] i'm gonna call this uh meeting to order
[0:15] at six o'clock on june 16th
[0:17] our next barter selections meeting is
[0:18] june 23rd at 6 00 pm it's going to be
[0:21] next door
[0:22] not here this is audio and video
[0:24] recorded
[0:25] uh it'll be put on channel 9 at some
[0:28] point
[0:28] in the very near future it's also live
[0:31] on youtube
[0:32] and it's going to be a zoom meeting also
[0:34] so could everybody stand
[0:36] for the pledge of the allegiance states of america and
[0:45] to the republic
[0:46] for which it stands one nation under god
[0:50] indivisible with liberty and justice for
[0:53] all
[0:54] thank you
[0:59] the first agenda item is on the new
[1:01] business is
[1:02] review discuss and act on a host
[1:04] community agreement bureau oasis llc did
[1:07] everybody have an opportunity to
[1:09] take a look at that agreement yes and
[1:12] does anybody have any
[1:13] uh questions about that this is uh very
[1:17] similar to the one that we
[1:18] signed the last time but the difference
[1:20] is that this is just
[1:21] cultivation it's not manufacturing not
[1:24] making edibles or anything like that
[1:28] uh i'm not sure it's a question but more
[1:32] of
[1:32] a comment i just wanted to give a kudos
[1:36] on the 25 000 upfront
[1:40] payment i know it's deducted from the
[1:42] three percent
[1:43] um impact fee that's imposed um if we
[1:46] sign this
[1:47] on uh pure oasis but i really
[1:49] appreciated that
[1:50] it's in accordance with the other ones
[1:52] that we did so i just wanted to
[1:54] thank you thank you dr
[1:58] if yes simply slip and hold i was just
[2:02] looking for an update in regards to
[2:05] whether or not this has gone before the
[2:07] planning board of the zba
[2:08] as of yet no it it hasn't okay so
[2:11] normally uh
[2:12] because they're in the process of doing
[2:14] this this is the host agreement
[2:15] obviously if they don't purchase the
[2:16] building they don't start the cultivation that kind of stuff this
[2:19] won't apply
[2:21] but they still got several hurdles um
[2:24] and you know zba is one of them as well
[2:27] as the uh the planning board
[2:29] uh i don't know if there's any other
[2:30] committees but uh thank you
[2:33] it's gonna be sooner rather than later
[2:35] in the public obviously we'll be
[2:36] notified
[2:37] to be posted as well as the abutters
[2:40] to 1620 spring street so for the public
[2:43] this is for 1620 spring street this is
[2:45] uh the old raytheon it's been called and
[2:48] there's a plan uh six twenty six twenty right six six twenty spring
[2:54] street what did i say
[2:55] sixteen oh actually that's someone's
[2:57] house played that tape back
[2:59] that's why i said six twenty but anyway
[3:00] 620 uh spring street
[3:02] and there's a group of people that want
[3:04] to cultivate marijuana there not to
[3:06] manufacture not to
[3:07] make any products out of it but they're
[3:09] going to cultivate and they will sell it
[3:11] to different businesses
[3:12] uh around here and further away and not
[3:15] to sell it either
[3:16] yeah they're gonna sell it to uh
[3:19] as a wholesale item to other uh other
[3:23] uh dispensaries and they they also have
[3:26] a dispensary in dorchester so they'll be
[3:28] making the
[3:29] growing the product here and
[3:30] manufacturing here then
[3:32] i'll bring it to their dispensary i
[3:34] believe it's in dorchester
[3:38] i'll entertain a motion there there's no
[3:39] further questions before i make a motion
[3:41] i do have one last question
[3:43] um the annual payment of the community
[3:45] impact fee is doable
[3:47] due and payable no later than 90 days
[3:49] from the close of the calendar year
[3:52] um i assume that's once they're up and
[3:55] running right
[3:56] yes yes uh yeah like the agreement is
[4:00] basically
[4:01] would commence when i'm out i'm actually
[4:04] when the company obtains
[4:06] um a license um and they're approved
[4:10] to begin operations by the cannabis
[4:15] i uh yeah by the cannabis i control
[4:17] commission okay
[4:18] so yeah like it would start then at that
[4:20] point but they need to have this in
[4:22] place in order to go
[4:24] so in order to go forward through the
[4:26] state and the state agencies as well
[4:29] uh he has to begin the planning oh you
[4:32] know
[4:33] i like actually like a process where the
[4:34] planning brought through the special
[4:35] appointment process as well
[4:37] thank you yep it's like now this
[4:41] 25 000 payment does not
[4:44] or does include all permitting fees
[4:47] that's nothing to do with the uh
[4:48] permitting fees no so this uh
[4:51] they they have to pay unless they're
[4:52] waived all fees they still expect
[4:55] along with paying real estate taxes uh
[4:57] personal uh personal taxes they have to
[4:59] pay
[5:00] uh that twenty five thousand separate
[5:01] that's a part of that three percent
[5:03] so if it comes out that they at the end
[5:05] of a calendar year they always
[5:07] a hundred thousand dollars they've
[5:09] already given us the 25 so we're getting
[5:10] that
[5:11] up front of this advantage for the uh
[5:13] for the time thank you
[5:17] so i'll still entertain a motion mr
[5:19] chairman i motion that we
[5:22] approve the host community agreement
[5:24] between the town of dayton and pure
[5:26] oasis llc
[5:28] uh as presented and amended this evening
[5:32] just so the public knows they had a
[5:33] virtual meeting uh last thursday
[5:36] that the public was invited to and
[5:38] people a lot of people from
[5:40] the public ask questions about it so the
[5:43] neighbors and
[5:44] so people know what's going on is there
[5:46] any further discussion on the motion
[5:48] if not i'll ask for a vote all those in
[5:51] favor say
[5:52] i i i oppose
[5:56] abstentions the eyes haven't the next
[5:59] item
[6:00] uh is review discuss and act on
[6:02] disclosure
[6:03] by non-elected municipal employee
[6:05] building commissioner jim aguiar
[6:07] we were giving a uh the disclosure by
[6:10] uh jamaica he's the building
[6:12] commissioner
[6:14] and he uh has had some involvement with
[6:16] the
[6:17] uh and we'll discuss that as the next
[6:19] item uh with the libraries the different
[6:21] possibilities
[6:23] um that we will be doing with the
[6:25] library
[6:26] leasing building whatever and
[6:29] because he uh owns property in dayton
[6:33] that may become
[6:36] a property that we may lease
[6:39] he's bringing this to our attention that
[6:42] so we have three options we can either
[6:45] allow vote to allow him to proceed we
[6:48] can vote to proceed
[6:49] up until the point that we uh have a rfp
[6:52] is put out or we can ask that he recused
[6:56] himself for the whole process
[6:58] so um any questions from
[7:02] um my only question is would the vote be
[7:07] exclude him from the municipal building
[7:10] study committee or would this be
[7:11] strictly
[7:12] uh regarding the library i believe it's
[7:15] begun in the library
[7:16] because there's no other uh conflict or
[7:18] whatever you want to call a conflict
[7:20] uh with anything else that that group is
[7:22] uh discussing
[7:25] i have no further questions we have any
[7:29] questions
[7:32] no idea so i'll express
[7:36] uh my personal feelings we ought to
[7:39] allow him to proceed with this process
[7:42] up until
[7:42] uh any point the rfp is put out
[7:46] so we have three options we can just uh
[7:48] let him proceed
[7:49] and fully participate in whatever
[7:52] process we're gonna do
[7:52] with the library we can tell him that he
[7:55] got to recuse himself and he has nothing
[7:56] to do with it or we can
[7:57] let him proceed until we get to the
[7:59] point where we got rfp out there and
[8:01] if his business he has a partner if his
[8:04] business
[8:05] wishes to be one of those facilities
[8:07] that we may want to consider
[8:09] uh he would recuse himself at that point
[8:11] from any uh further discussion with us
[8:13] the board on
[8:14] that issue uh can i give my personal
[8:17] opinion sure
[8:18] i think though the last choice is
[8:20] probably the best
[8:22] just my personal opinion yep
[8:25] does the chairman i support your
[8:27] recommendation
[8:29] my recommendation yes so i will uh
[8:32] entertain a motion that we proceed
[8:35] up until the point that the rfp is uh
[8:37] put out our second that motion
[8:40] i'm gonna let you make the motion and
[8:42] i'm going to uh step down
[8:44] and second that motion thank you any
[8:46] discussion
[8:47] i'm happy to second it you don't need to
[8:48] step down any uh discussion
[8:51] no no discussion mr chairman yes
[8:54] i make a motion that mr aggia
[8:58] continue in his current capacity serving
[9:01] on that task force until the
[9:05] rfp process has reached
[9:09] uh been sent out for the library
[9:14] any discussion on that on that motion if
[9:16] not always in favor say aye aye opposed abstention the eyes have
[9:22] it
[9:23] uh the third uh item is the dyche
[9:25] library uh public library reopening
[9:27] update
[9:29] are you doing that or uh no i don't mind
[9:32] speaking
[9:32] okay if you want to start yeah
[9:36] thank you i i you know just i contacted
[9:39] the state because i felt my involvement
[9:41] was important for the townspeople the
[9:43] taxpayers and the library
[9:45] um i feel passionate about certain
[9:48] things that's one of the things that i'd
[9:49] like
[9:50] us to finally bring to the forefront and
[9:52] deal with
[9:53] once and for all so thank you for
[9:55] allowing me to stay involved
[9:58] this discussion i think is going to go
[9:59] beyond tonight
[10:01] but i want you to know in my absence
[10:04] last week i watched the
[10:06] meeting i took the feedback i think it
[10:10] was a great discussion
[10:11] that was a good start to the dialogue
[10:14] but i also want you to know that the
[10:16] building needs study committee
[10:18] in no way was to say this is the
[10:19] direction that we need to go
[10:21] we wanted that to be a starting point
[10:24] that included this
[10:25] brought in the selectmen and then opened
[10:27] up the dialogue between
[10:29] the committee the selectmen and the
[10:30] townspeople to figure out what deity
[10:32] needs to do to finally get this
[10:34] library situation figured out
[10:37] so um although i we did make a couple of
[10:40] recommendations
[10:41] i think it's fairly fluid um obviously
[10:44] since then we've acted uh
[10:46] through the administrative mullen with
[10:48] seeing what other avenues were available
[10:50] so um you know i don't know how this is
[10:53] going to play out but i want to
[10:55] you know have the dialogue bring in the
[10:58] committee members so that their they
[11:00] can be heard as well even though i
[11:01] authored the letter it was
[11:03] all voices that were on paper so and
[11:06] then debate it like like professionals
[11:08] and figure out what the best thing for
[11:09] the town is and what the best thing for
[11:11] the library is
[11:13] i can give you one update though the
[11:16] structural analysis of the
[11:18] primetime building was brought up the
[11:20] structural engineer was three weeks out
[11:23] i do know him i called him had a
[11:25] technical conversation with him
[11:27] that building would be ruled out if we
[11:29] were to move books into it
[11:31] so i don't see any reason for wasting
[11:33] taxpayer dollars i felt comfortable with
[11:35] the discussion i had with him
[11:36] so we can rule out that as an option for
[11:39] the library
[11:40] if we wanted to bring the books there
[11:43] one of the reasons we came up with the
[11:47] presentation as was as written was that
[11:50] we were very conscious of not fracturing
[11:52] the library any more than it already has
[11:54] been
[11:55] i think we really need to be conscious
[11:57] of that we've done that in the past and
[11:59] i know when we moved
[12:00] some departments to old town hall there
[12:02] was discussion about fracturing
[12:04] government
[12:05] we're all on the same campus but some of
[12:08] the solutions to the library
[12:10] unless we really really put our minds to
[12:12] this is to separate
[12:14] the different um you know services that
[12:17] they have
[12:18] and i want to be careful about that
[12:19] because now we're taking them from a
[12:21] building they couldn't fit in
[12:22] to multiple buildings and i i just don't
[12:25] know how that's going to work for
[12:26] logistics with the library so
[12:29] that said i know we can go on for hours
[12:31] about this and i suggest we do
[12:34] i just think that maybe this isn't the
[12:35] forum we need to
[12:37] maybe publicize it and we need more
[12:39] information too
[12:40] yeah so just so the public knows
[12:44] the library the andrew carnegie uh light
[12:47] public library titans public library
[12:49] will not be used as a library because
[12:50] it's not big enough it's not safe
[12:53] although we're going to put a new egress
[12:55] into the building because it needs two
[12:57] egresses on the
[12:58] main floor so that people can leave the
[13:01] building
[13:01] safely and we're going to have the
[13:02] bathrooms become
[13:04] handicapped platforms the public can use
[13:07] those
[13:09] but still it won't be used as a library
[13:10] it's just too small
[13:12] you may know already that the
[13:15] mass library commission has
[13:19] preliminarily giving us uh will give us
[13:22] four million dollars towards
[13:23] uh adding on to the uh andrew carnegie
[13:25] library and we would have the time when
[13:27] i have to match that
[13:28] with number 11. they usually do two a
[13:31] year so at some point we're going to
[13:32] come up for that
[13:33] i'll speak for myself and not the rest
[13:35] of the board i personally don't think
[13:36] that's a good idea
[13:37] even the plan they have for the the
[13:39] library they say it's going to be good
[13:40] for 20 years so that we're going to be
[13:42] stuck with a
[13:43] they're going to put us they're talking
[13:44] about putting the second floor as well
[13:45] as expanding on the building a little
[13:46] bit
[13:47] we still get the problems with the
[13:48] parking lot i
[13:50] might i personally think we ought to uh
[13:52] build a new library
[13:53] having said that we're in a situation
[13:56] that uh come uh
[13:57] just about labor day i think the day is
[13:59] we're gonna if we don't have a library
[14:01] set up
[14:02] somewhere in town we're actually gonna
[14:03] lose our right to have a
[14:05] library they'll stop us and we won't be
[14:06] able to go to any other library the
[14:08] sales
[14:09] with the sales and go and use our cards
[14:11] here and go to say for example the
[14:12] somerset library
[14:14] so we're trying to find a temporary uh
[14:16] place for
[14:17] a library one of the options was we
[14:20] talked about anyway
[14:21] was prime time which is not being used
[14:24] as you
[14:25] some of you know that we've had some
[14:26] elderly people go over there
[14:28] pre-pandemic people with
[14:31] alzheimer's alzheimer's and they would
[14:34] be stay there for the day it was like a
[14:35] day care but we haven't opened it since
[14:36] the pandemic and we're not sure
[14:38] at what point we're going to open it up
[14:40] but in order for that to be used as a
[14:42] library
[14:42] you have to it has to be able to hold
[14:44] 150 pounds
[14:46] per square foot so if i just stood in a
[14:47] square foot it's gonna
[14:49] already be too much and the books are
[14:50] heavy as you know there's a lot of books
[14:52] i asked the question uh last week if we
[14:55] put less books over there spread them
[14:56] out a little bit and that's not a
[14:57] possibility it has to still be that 150
[14:59] so
[15:00] the report that we just got tonight is
[15:01] that we can't go to uh
[15:04] prime time for the library so now we're
[15:06] looking at
[15:07] other options we're thinking about
[15:09] possibly leasing some
[15:10] something in dayton for the library
[15:13] there's also that possibility of getting
[15:15] a
[15:17] it's not actually a trailer though but
[15:19] it's it's a modular unit modular unit
[15:21] 12 by 60 at a reasonable price would we
[15:24] would be leasing that and
[15:26] we're checking in to see whether the
[15:27] chaos act will cover that at least for
[15:29] the first year at least until the end of
[15:30] on this uh calendar year because the
[15:33] care act
[15:34] ends after that and then this would have
[15:35] to be voted on by the public obviously
[15:38] so those are the different options that
[15:40] uh that we have
[15:42] so yes let's select
[15:45] in regards to discussions about whether
[15:48] or not
[15:49] they are going to down the road have a
[15:51] new building
[15:53] or remodel the old one i strongly
[15:57] support a public forum to discuss the
[16:00] options
[16:01] and to present to the people class
[16:04] breakdown
[16:05] so they can be very much a part of the
[16:08] decision-making process
[16:10] that's sort of what i was alluding to by
[16:12] not getting in too deep right now
[16:14] i want to i want to bring other
[16:15] committee members in i want to invite
[16:17] the public in
[16:18] and i want to discuss it you know in a
[16:20] democratic fashion the way it should be
[16:21] discussed
[16:22] yeah i mean if the if uh number comes up
[16:25] for the library for the addition to the
[16:27] uh
[16:27] andrew carnegie that has to be voted on
[16:28] by the residents
[16:30] uh so we're not at that point but i just
[16:32] thought there's so many people here
[16:34] i thought maybe they were interested in
[16:35] the library so i would give them that
[16:37] information
[16:37] so we're not voting on anything today
[16:39] i'm just expressing and i've said it for
[16:41] years my personal opinion
[16:43] i'm not speaking for the board my
[16:45] personal opinion is that it's cheaper
[16:46] for the town of brighton to build a new
[16:48] library
[16:48] and it's ours it's it's a permanent
[16:50] building for us and it's not gonna
[16:52] expire in five ten or fifteen years
[16:55] so we're not going to be taking yes
[16:56] you're gonna say something
[16:59] now the only question i had is we're
[17:01] heading up to the end of the fiscal year
[17:03] and
[17:04] we had discussed quickly the option of a
[17:07] modular building to
[17:09] house part of the library that
[17:12] discussion may have to happen quicker
[17:14] than the public forum
[17:16] we willing to do that or i mean we're
[17:19] running out of meetings by the end of
[17:20] the fiscal year so
[17:22] we only have one more yeah we have one
[17:24] more we could possibly have a second but
[17:26] that's really towards the end of the uh
[17:28] end of the year no i mean uh i think
[17:32] probably hopefully next week we'll have
[17:33] an answer on the chaos act whether they
[17:35] would cover
[17:36] uh the modular because and then
[17:40] yeah yes and at this point one of the
[17:42] things i mean in terms of a modular you
[17:45] know that wouldn't be
[17:46] any type of i think longer term
[17:49] oh you know oh you know like longer term
[17:54] opportunity solution in any way shape or
[17:56] form that would really just get us to
[17:57] the labor day open
[17:59] be it would be a one year submission
[18:00] from the date that
[18:02] it's delivered so we would only have it
[18:04] for one year
[18:05] so the reason why i mentioned this is um
[18:08] the town of ministry and i were
[18:09] brainstorming
[18:11] in case the cares act does not come
[18:13] through and we can't use kazak funding
[18:15] and one of the options that i put on the
[18:17] table was at the
[18:18] end of the year we had a spending freeze
[18:21] we're going to end up with a lot of
[18:22] accounts that have
[18:23] additional funds in them then maybe we
[18:26] could do a year end
[18:27] to pay for this because the cost was
[18:30] fairly reasonable
[18:32] i think with the utility connections it
[18:34] was going to be a little less than 40
[18:35] 000
[18:37] and that's for a one-year lease right so
[18:39] you know i hate to miss the opportunity
[18:41] if kanzak doesn't come through
[18:43] and being that june 30th is around the
[18:45] corner we may want to have that
[18:47] discussion at the next meeting
[18:48] i'll be it outside of the public forum
[18:50] but at least we can maybe get the funds
[18:52] allocated
[18:53] so if we decide to go that route we uh
[18:56] we can pay for it
[18:57] select and help i just wanted to to
[18:59] clarify when i set a public forum
[19:02] it was not for the temporary
[19:05] relocation it was for what we're going
[19:07] to do
[19:08] at the end of year one when we need a
[19:11] building
[19:12] whether it be the old one remodeled or a
[19:14] brand new one
[19:15] right okay
[19:19] i have a library trustee here do you
[19:20] want to make any comment on this we're
[19:22] not making a decision tonight but
[19:23] i presented the options i'm sorry i came
[19:26] in late but
[19:28] it sounds like continued effort to solve
[19:31] the initial problem then you know
[19:33] i agree uh mr hull that
[19:36] public forum on plans for the future of
[19:38] the library are important
[19:40] we're certainly committed to that so the
[19:43] question i have then is when that year
[19:44] is up we don't have an option to lease
[19:46] that
[19:46] for additional effort as to whether it's
[19:49] available or not after one year but
[19:50] they'll only lease in one year
[19:51] increments
[19:52] um at least that's what i was told yeah
[19:54] so
[19:56] i i guess if we want it for a longer
[19:57] term they're going to ask for more money
[19:58] yeah
[19:59] i'm sure so yeah right now we're looking to have
[20:03] cares covered so they're not going to
[20:04] care
[20:05] they're not going to cover whatever i
[20:07] didn't mean to
[20:08] care they're not going to cover up for
[20:10] longer than a year because the fund's
[20:11] going to run out in december
[20:12] they would hopefully they would provide
[20:14] us with the initial money for the first
[20:15] year anyway so one of the reluctancies i
[20:17] have
[20:18] with longer than a year is
[20:21] as selective as a graphic said last week
[20:24] modulars trailers tend to become
[20:25] permanent
[20:26] and i would hate to see that happen
[20:27] especially since in order to do that
[20:29] we're going to fracture the department and the library is going
[20:32] to be fragmented so i think if that gets a certain year then we can
[20:37] have two locations
[20:38] i think a lot a bigger discussion needs
[20:41] to be
[20:42] when and if we can get a shovel in the
[20:44] ground and what do we do after the year
[20:46] to get us to that point you won't be
[20:48] building a library in a year i can
[20:49] guarantee that boy
[20:50] absolutely but but if we have some sort
[20:52] of
[20:53] plan then maybe we can say okay after
[20:56] the one year do we have another short
[20:58] term plan that puts the library back
[21:00] together
[21:01] while we're getting this new library off
[21:02] the ground
[21:06] so i think that and i know this is
[21:08] preliminary but
[21:10] if we could get cares to pay for
[21:11] anything to offset
[21:13] you know like the taxpayers funding a
[21:16] temporary solution i think that that's
[21:18] a plus um and then you know we could
[21:21] figure out the second year and the third
[21:23] year because i think
[21:24] where what 12 on that 11 and 12
[21:27] and but they're not even accepting new
[21:29] applications i'm 11 and 12.
[21:30] to add to that correct delight and
[21:33] reconnecting correct
[21:34] i don't think that i don't think uh
[21:36] taxpayers are going to support that yeah
[21:37] i know i know it's important
[21:40] i think is i actually believe it's
[21:41] cheaper to build a new library then
[21:44] renovate it eight million dollars on
[21:46] that site
[21:47] yeah that's not a that's not a good site
[21:49] it's not it's not a good site and
[21:51] even on this grant that we've supposedly
[21:54] were eligible unless we do something on
[21:55] that site we have to start the process
[21:57] again and i was
[21:58] and at the meeting last week they're not
[21:59] even accepting applications now
[22:01] and if somebody uh sometimes been given
[22:04] uh a grant
[22:05] more than 20 years ago they're able to
[22:07] reapply again for
[22:08] additions or whatever so that numbers of
[22:10] talent supply and it's even going to
[22:12] increase so so the only reason i i
[22:14] suggested
[22:15] using taxpayer funds or at least
[22:17] appropriating taxpayer funds before the
[22:19] end of the year is if here's act doesn't
[22:21] come through
[22:21] now we need to wait until and that's
[22:23] passed off and we lose
[22:25] yeah we can't do that either yeah it's a
[22:28] rock and a hard place i just think that
[22:32] i think it's attractive to have cares
[22:35] fun that first year
[22:36] we can figure it out and because the
[22:38] other thing is you've said
[22:40] quite honestly is that um they're not
[22:42] accepting new applications so we can
[22:44] if we wanted to if the public had if
[22:46] there were support let's say we had the
[22:48] forum as
[22:49] selectman hall wants to and i support
[22:50] that as well i think it's a good idea
[22:53] we still can't submit an application and
[22:55] you know there's no
[22:57] even if the the project is really
[22:59] attractive more attractive than the
[23:00] renovation project
[23:02] i think that there's a chance that we're
[23:04] on a waiting list again
[23:06] um and even if we were number one that
[23:09] still is going to take
[23:10] you know the police station look that
[23:12] was a long process it didn't
[23:13] happen quickly and so we should
[23:17] be honest with people the temporary
[23:19] solution is going to be a few years
[23:21] and i think we need to be honest and i
[23:22] think that that's what's transparent
[23:24] here so
[23:25] right so the building needs study
[23:26] committee is going to reconvene
[23:28] even though we just had one meeting last
[23:30] week where i wasn't present the feedback
[23:32] from you was great
[23:34] the new information about prime time is
[23:36] also helpful so
[23:38] we intend to have another discussion
[23:40] based on all the facts that we have to
[23:42] date
[23:43] and when it comes time we'll certainly
[23:45] mean again before the public forum but
[23:47] i think there are some options available
[23:49] to us to deal with that problem because
[23:51] it is a problem
[23:52] so so we'll be fully engaged with you
[23:54] about that and thank you for allowing me
[23:56] to stay involved i think it's a benefit
[23:57] to the taxpayer and the whole situation
[23:59] to have me involved so thank you you're
[24:00] the facilities manager
[24:04] so do you think we'll be able to vote on
[24:06] this uh
[24:07] at the next uh next meeting board of
[24:09] slackers meetings uh yes yes i'm gonna
[24:11] follow up with a
[24:12] f uh by the end of this week uh to see
[24:15] if they've had time to digest any of the
[24:17] information we sent over
[24:19] um and mr aguirre said i'm actually
[24:22] mentioned i think
[24:22] it i think at this point uh for the
[24:26] meeting on the 23rd anyhow we were
[24:28] already planning
[24:29] um on proposing transfers to the board
[24:32] of selectmen
[24:33] um and already we had a financial
[24:35] meeting this afternoon
[24:38] oh you know to try to identify aries
[24:42] uh you know where we might be able to
[24:43] fund that thirty thousand dollars from
[24:46] uh like so we'll be ready just in the
[24:48] event as a contingency to have that
[24:50] funding ready to be proposed in the
[24:51] event that we don't
[24:53] um actually have i'm a good answer or
[24:56] like an answer that we would hope for
[24:57] from the state
[24:59] so we'll put on the agenda for any
[25:01] further discussion on this no thank you the next uh agenda item is
[25:06] the minutes i asked for a motion to
[25:08] approve the minutes of april 28
[25:09] 2021 so moved is there a second in a
[25:14] second
[25:15] uh just so you know i did have some uh
[25:19] a minor uh correction on it that you may
[25:21] not have seen okay i was on a
[25:23] selectmen's report i gave a report on
[25:24] the uh
[25:26] it's not the community garden but the
[25:27] james briggs garden it's going to be
[25:28] next door
[25:29] uh and it said that uh mr again was
[25:31] there it wasn't it was uh actually
[25:32] uh mr ferry that was at the meeting so
[25:34] that's been corrected so just so you
[25:37] know full disclosure that's been a
[25:38] change in it sounds good
[25:41] uh any discussion if not all those in
[25:44] favor say aye aye opposed extension the eyes have
[25:47] it
[25:48] uh public input just before the public
[25:51] gets to speak i just wanted to
[25:53] uh the three of us attended the uh
[25:55] historical commission's
[25:56] boston philippine that was given to the
[25:58] family of maria
[25:59] barboza and it was present it was a very
[26:02] good uh
[26:03] presentation i want to thank the members
[26:05] of the
[26:06] historical commission you happen to have
[26:07] a couple members here but
[26:09] pat gales who's the chairman pat olson
[26:11] uh pamela nicholson
[26:12] gail salvi who is here and uh raffer who
[26:15] is also here and bill crude who's not
[26:17] here but they did a
[26:18] great job and pam and myself and my wife
[26:22] we went to the barbosa farm after they
[26:24] had a little celebration with their
[26:25] family
[26:26] and uh they were very impressed with the presentation so
[26:30] uh i know we're gonna do it or you're
[26:32] gonna do it in a couple of weeks
[26:33] so you get a high bar now to but they uh
[26:37] the family was very supportive as you
[26:39] may not know but there was
[26:40] probably 40 45 people there some town
[26:43] officials
[26:44] uh but the the families were represented
[26:47] uh maria barboza
[26:48] was our oldest person in town and she um
[26:51] she passed away before we actually
[26:52] able to do the presentation but she was
[26:54] aware uh that we were
[26:56] presenting her we did it to the with the
[26:58] family with the boston post games so
[27:00] i just want to thank the historical
[27:02] commission for the hard work they did
[27:04] uh public input is there any public
[27:07] input
[27:08] and that lies the one situation the
[27:11] current location in the building um if
[27:14] we end up with a new location and they
[27:15] sell that property
[27:17] but that would put some money toward the
[27:18] project wouldn't it yes but
[27:20] it's it's an historical building and i
[27:22] quite frankly i'd be opposed to uh
[27:24] selling my bill i the town will use that
[27:26] building the time we use it for
[27:27] something whether it's a department
[27:29] or something uh but i don't know what the board feels i
[27:33] don't know what the public feels but it
[27:35] would be a shame to uh
[27:37] get rid of the andrew uh kaneki uh
[27:39] building
[27:40] and it's not um it's not
[27:44] from the sounds of it it doesn't sound
[27:46] feasible
[27:48] to get the fourth million and then the
[27:49] matching to
[27:51] renovate that space with it the plan is
[27:53] they present to the planets
[27:55] to expand the building a little bit and
[27:56] put a second floor on it destroys the whole design of that
[28:01] building quite frankly
[28:02] and i saw somewhere and i may be wrong
[28:04] but it was good for 20 years
[28:06] and why you know that's a very small
[28:09] spot parking is limited and i i want to
[28:12] support i actually think the town can
[28:14] spend less money because we would be
[28:17] obligated to pay four million dollars
[28:18] and don't forget this these are figures
[28:20] that were given to us a few years ago
[28:22] anybody's bought a two by four
[28:24] the price is almost tripled so the
[28:26] expense may go up but i actually think
[28:28] that we can build
[28:29] a better building and what would be the
[28:33] approach i know it's not in stone but
[28:35] approximate cost
[28:37] of a new sustaining building beyond the
[28:39] 28th i don't know but i think the
[28:41] for example the police station which is
[28:42] a lot more detailed as far as
[28:44] equipment and stuff that they had to
[28:45] have in there uh was four and a half
[28:47] million dollars so
[28:48] i think we can build a similar building
[28:50] we don't obviously
[28:52] well maybe we do but uh we won't have
[28:53] jail cells and we don't have that kind
[28:55] of stuff but uh
[28:56] we hope not uh but we won't have all
[28:59] those uh little rooms and it's all separate you know it's divided
[29:03] and put
[29:04] you know as protection for the employees
[29:06] over there that kind of stuff we won't
[29:08] necessarily need that for a library but
[29:10] my gut feelings is going to be cheaper
[29:12] just to build a new library yeah it
[29:13] would be a shame to lose the sales
[29:15] because
[29:15] that connects us with all the other
[29:17] rooms that's absolutely that's the
[29:18] important thing
[29:20] yep and uh so did we we went to somerset
[29:23] a lot
[29:25] and we even if that was open as a
[29:27] library now we can't
[29:28] use the basement we can't use the the
[29:30] second floor just that main floor
[29:32] and we can only fit so many people in
[29:33] there so it's really not a good
[29:35] option for us and the uh fire chief and
[29:37] the police chief have both said it's not
[29:39] safe for us to open up as a library so
[29:41] that's why we unfortunately have this
[29:42] option
[29:43] uh we have to look at these uh different
[29:45] options but uh i see as mr again said leasing is a
[29:50] temporary solution it's not gonna be
[29:52] we need to own the building the town of
[29:54] brighton deserves to have its own
[29:55] library and we shouldn't be obligated to
[29:57] pay somebody else
[29:58] annually you want to say something um so
[30:01] the
[30:03] building as it is now what you
[30:07] because it's not gone yet but what are
[30:09] some of the potential uses for it
[30:11] if we kept it and didn't sell it
[30:15] i i guess i can express my uh i'll give
[30:17] you my
[30:18] personal feelings i think the veteran
[30:19] agent could be over there
[30:21] i think the maybe possibility of i'll
[30:23] stay in front of the building commission
[30:24] the building
[30:25] department to be over there uh it's you
[30:27] know the public will be able to go you
[30:29] know for this
[30:30] the public will be well aware of what
[30:32] that building is for so that instead of
[30:33] going over here or going coming over
[30:35] here they'll know where to go for
[30:36] certain services so uh but it can be
[30:38] utilized
[30:40] i'd be so opposed to uh selling it and i
[30:42] don't think we'll get the money that
[30:44] uh i think that you think that we'd uh
[30:46] be able to call somebody mentioned that
[30:47] we'd be able to get so
[30:48] mr again so there's a plan in place
[30:50] right now to
[30:52] put an accessible ramp excuse me on the
[30:55] building and an accessible restroom in
[30:57] the building
[30:58] right now the restroom is fractured the
[31:01] facilities are in an old closet the
[31:04] handle or sink is in the hallway
[31:06] so it's just you know it served its
[31:08] purpose
[31:09] long ago um but you know that library is
[31:12] far outlived it's it's usefulness there the building
[31:16] however as was said
[31:18] is economy building we're the stewards
[31:20] of that building and we we're
[31:22] responsible for making sure it's here
[31:23] for generations to come
[31:25] so i think by moving them out getting
[31:28] the building so it's accessible
[31:29] repairing some of the things that are
[31:31] deficient on it we'll open it up for more use and and more valuable use
[31:36] and i think more people
[31:37] not that the library isn't frequented
[31:39] but i think if it were another build
[31:40] another town
[31:41] service more towns people would be able
[31:43] to appreciate the building for what it
[31:44] is
[31:46] and town always looks towards the future
[31:48] you know we have
[31:49] the old town hall it's called old town
[31:51] hall uh next door was booked in
[31:53] 1869. instead of adding onto this
[31:55] building here we utilize that space over
[31:57] there we're expanding space here we've
[31:58] done changes upstairs the
[32:00] uh we bought a selectmen we had a
[32:01] meeting room upstairs it's no longer
[32:03] there
[32:03] we meet over there now we're using that
[32:05] for the town council so we we always
[32:07] look towards the future as to how we can
[32:08] use these buildings rather than just
[32:09] build a building the library is
[32:11] different we we just can't
[32:13] i don't see this a feasible solution to
[32:15] add on to the uh andrew chronicle you
[32:16] know
[32:17] when the building needs a study
[32:18] committee who's doing their diligence
[32:20] there's an annual report from 1920 i
[32:23] believe
[32:24] that said the library had already
[32:25] outlived its space this was a hundred
[32:28] years ago
[32:29] and we're still talking about it today
[32:31] so um
[32:32] i remember that when that that report
[32:34] came out
[32:41] so so nonetheless i mean you know
[32:43] anybody who's visiting the library sees
[32:45] it it's very constrained
[32:46] and certainly not accessible um and it's
[32:49] you know
[32:50] even for the staff you know they've
[32:51] sacrificed a lot through the years just
[32:53] dealing with the
[32:54] uh inefficiency and deficiencies of the
[32:57] building but
[32:58] i think it's time that we have a healthy
[32:59] discussion and figure it out
[33:01] thanks well i'm going to like slip and
[33:04] hold scoot first
[33:08] i hear some wonderful ideas
[33:11] as a taxpayer and as a representative of
[33:15] people
[33:16] i hear people that are very concerned
[33:19] about their pockets and their bank
[33:21] accounts and their tax rate
[33:25] what i would really like to see the task
[33:27] force come up with
[33:28] is two plans plan a remodeling
[33:31] that facility and what it will cost
[33:34] plan b a new facility and let the
[33:38] taxpayers decide
[33:40] what they want because they're the ones
[33:42] that are going to be paying the bill
[33:45] sure just to clarify that so when that
[33:48] when our number comes up whenever that
[33:50] is gonna be three or four five years
[33:51] down the road
[33:53] it goes before go before the town's
[33:54] people and they'll get the vote on it
[33:56] but
[33:56] i agree with you you should also have a
[33:58] second option so it can't be just
[34:00] reject my position is reject this we
[34:02] need to have something else there
[34:03] yes that's right if we're gonna reject
[34:05] this then let's do this
[34:07] we have to yeah because we can't wait i
[34:10] mean it'll be
[34:11] 10 years before oh yeah ultimately this
[34:14] isn't
[34:14] the study committee's decision to make
[34:17] we're just going to give it
[34:18] facts and then the people will decide
[34:20] what the federal library is
[34:22] but it's it's up to us to make sure that
[34:24] people are well involved
[34:25] so i agree i
[34:29] just like to add that in 2000
[34:32] i was on the library building committee
[34:35] to build
[34:36] a new library that was 21 years ago
[34:40] and we're still talking about it
[34:43] and we're still hearing the same
[34:45] objections we heard 21 years ago
[34:49] and the sad reality is it's going to
[34:52] cost a
[34:52] heck of a lot more money today to build
[34:55] a new one
[34:56] than it would have 21 years ago and we
[35:02] had some uh
[35:02] at that time we had some donations uh g
[35:04] lopez was going to do the foundation for
[35:06] us and
[35:06] we had some other donations yeah i think
[35:09] i i just think that's a really timely
[35:11] point and
[35:12] i remember you brought up something
[35:14] earlier and i thought it was also a
[35:15] really good point about
[35:16] the folks who built libraries 20 years
[35:18] ago are now eligible
[35:20] for more grants we could have been one
[35:22] of those towns that did something
[35:24] 20 years ago and is doing something now
[35:26] um
[35:27] and potentially saved money so um but
[35:30] our job is to give everyone the facts
[35:32] the options and doing nothing is an
[35:34] option
[35:36] it really is um but it comes with
[35:38] ramifications as mr white brought up
[35:40] where we lose our sales certification
[35:43] and anyone who
[35:44] uses the library knows how valuable that
[35:46] is because dayton public library
[35:48] unfortunately isn't big enough to have
[35:50] a lot of the books so a lot of the media
[35:52] materials that
[35:53] people seek so um but i agree with
[35:56] selectmanhole we should
[35:58] gather that data or the building uh
[36:00] study committee would gather that data
[36:02] give everyone the three options the
[36:04] renovation a new library
[36:06] or you know do nothing we're probably
[36:09] going to do this temporary solution
[36:10] regardless
[36:11] but um and then see where it shakes out
[36:14] yeah that's what we'll be voting on in
[36:15] the near future just a temporary
[36:17] solution so um
[36:22] we we're talking about public money and
[36:24] that kind of thing as
[36:26] if it comes from you know the air but it
[36:28] doesn't it comes from
[36:29] us and so you're right we have to be
[36:32] good stewards of that
[36:33] has anyone thought to go to the carnegie
[36:35] foundation they're the ones who gave us
[36:37] the 8 000
[36:38] back in what 1908 to build it has anyone
[36:41] like
[36:41] actually contacted the carnegie
[36:43] foundation
[36:45] knowledge is still extensive yeah that's
[36:47] news to me if it is but
[36:48] i'll take you away for what that is they
[36:50] throw money at
[36:52] you know they've got the 501c3 they're
[36:53] throwing money um i think wqed in
[36:56] pittsburgh
[36:56] is the local public um
[37:00] you know pbs station so that's one of
[37:02] those things where
[37:05] there might be some sentimental value
[37:06] because i kind of agree with you again
[37:08] um
[37:09] i you know don't want to see the
[37:11] building disappear
[37:13] you know and it's not just sentiment
[37:14] there's a there's a
[37:16] whatever you want to call it there's
[37:18] continuity to it and everything i'd like
[37:19] to see that stay there i live
[37:21] pretty close um but
[37:25] i don't want to spend a heck of a lot of
[37:26] money and i don't know where we're going
[37:27] to get 4 000
[37:29] from 4 million
[37:36] because we have um police cruisers that
[37:39] could be
[37:41] repaired fixed we have fire engines that
[37:44] need to be fixed we have a lot of other
[37:47] needs in this town you know
[37:50] and a library is one of those things
[37:53] that's nice to have
[37:54] it's awesome it's a sign of civilization
[37:57] but
[37:57] we have some more pressing needs right
[37:59] now um
[38:01] so that was that was my only thought on
[38:02] that if we could you know
[38:04] uh approach the carnegie foundation
[38:06] maybe
[38:09] yeah i didn't know it existed so
[38:12] it's good thank you mr chairman yes uh
[38:16] i i agree with mr gallucci um and and
[38:18] you as well
[38:19] um i think that regardless of what
[38:21] happens with the
[38:23] library going forward um that building
[38:26] was
[38:26] a gift um it is historic
[38:29] um it's beautiful and i think that
[38:33] it's something that brought the
[38:34] community together that's why the
[38:35] library is there
[38:36] um and if we could keep that building
[38:40] something that is community-based and
[38:42] i'm not talking about expanding services
[38:44] that's not what i mean i just mean like
[38:46] a community center a place where
[38:48] the community can go maybe not so much
[38:51] uh in my opinion
[38:52] uh like a department building i think
[38:54] we've split
[38:55] um departments enough and gotten the
[38:58] feedback about it too um
[39:00] but if we could keep it a
[39:01] community-based building that would be
[39:03] my preference
[39:04] yeah the other option and maybe it's
[39:05] because i'm a senior but a
[39:07] possibility of a senior center too that
[39:08] people get together that has been
[39:10] brought up by residents as well include
[39:11] you in that group too
[39:16] [Laughter]
[39:19] any other uh question yes
[39:27] building the old um there's plenty of
[39:28] space right there is it possible
[39:30] maybe to purchase like a sizeable amount
[39:33] of that
[39:34] empty building and joining public right
[39:37] here this might be partner space
[39:39] yeah is it so i think here oasis bought
[39:42] the entire building
[39:44] um and they're gonna cultivate and then
[39:46] also rent that was part of the hca
[39:48] tonight
[39:49] so i don't think that i think their
[39:51] intent i shouldn't we can ask them i
[39:53] want to be very clear
[39:54] but i think their intent was to lease
[39:56] the space out to the
[39:57] to other cultivators is what i was
[40:00] but you've worked with them much closer
[40:05] what was that how many cultivators are
[40:07] supposed to well
[40:08] it's uh what's the tax revenue i mean
[40:10] that's you know we're talking about
[40:12] taxes we're talking about spending money
[40:13] for library this is one
[40:15] source of uh revenue for the for the
[40:16] town and we get the three percent impact fee on
[40:20] the sales
[40:21] if we negotiate it into the hca which
[40:23] everyone has had that in there that we
[40:25] have negotiated plus you get you know
[40:27] the real estate tax the property taxes
[40:29] and all that
[40:30] so it is a boom yeah select my health
[40:35] rafa the concern that i have about that it may complicate
[40:41] the approval process with the planning
[40:44] board
[40:45] and with zba in regards to if you put
[40:48] the library up there
[40:50] so close to marijuana with children
[40:53] coming
[40:53] into that building that they may
[40:57] be opposed to the passage of that
[41:02] pure oasis you know we talk about the
[41:04] tax revenue
[41:06] but we're also talking about the
[41:08] potential
[41:09] of 400 jobs
[41:13] and that will have an impact on this
[41:15] community
[41:16] as well um
[41:20] i caution people pure oasis
[41:23] is not a done deal
[41:26] it still has to get by planning board
[41:29] and it still has to get by
[41:31] zba um so
[41:35] there's still work to be done and
[41:37] salesmanship to be done
[41:42] and pure oasis is going to hire mostly
[41:45] daytonians so that's their preference
[41:48] and they will hire uh people who have
[41:52] been arrested for marijuana dealing
[41:55] drug i'm just that's just because they
[41:57] were penalized years back you know i
[41:59] worked in probation for 35 years
[42:01] uh people put on probation some people
[42:02] were put in jail because of marijuana so
[42:04] now they're
[42:05] trying to reverse that because the
[42:06] publisher might be able to tell from
[42:08] here
[42:09] uh that probably should have been legal
[42:10] years ago so uh
[42:13] it's there's there's going to be
[42:14] employment from daytona's which is great
[42:16] not only
[42:17] you know it's it's revenue for the town
[42:19] but it's also putting some people to
[42:21] work which is a great opportunity for
[42:22] dayton but that's the way down the road i think
[42:25] those are all good points um but i also
[42:27] want to
[42:28] add that business begets business so i
[42:31] think the more
[42:33] jobs that we create in dayton then
[42:36] the more likelihood that you'll have
[42:38] restaurants and other places that want
[42:40] to open up this is just my
[42:41] crazy idea um and service those
[42:45] influx of people who maybe no longer
[42:48] have to go to boston for work can go to
[42:50] you know or providence or wherever can
[42:52] now work close to home so
[42:53] like it used to be with the old uh
[42:55] raytheon and icing ici
[42:59] and let's help um dr c
[43:03] in response to that um
[43:06] we have a committee that has dormant now
[43:09] the
[43:09] business and development corporation and
[43:12] i'm hoping in the
[43:14] meetings to come that be able to
[43:18] get your support mr pacheco's support to
[43:22] work on revitalizing that committee
[43:24] absolutely
[43:26] and not just that committee but also the
[43:28] development and industrial commission
[43:29] which is more of a marketing committee yes
[43:36] any other public input is there any
[43:38] public input on there's something in
[43:40] there
[43:41] uh so yeah there was um a little bit of
[43:45] input uh for me from a user nancy mack
[43:48] um and just wanted to clarify uh there
[43:51] that there will be 400 jobs total uh the
[43:54] pure oasis
[43:55] discussed hiring a hundred additional
[43:58] employees
[43:58] from the community yes
[44:04] they're going to hire 100
[44:08] i think all the all the employees that
[44:10] they hire other than
[44:11] management they're going to be
[44:13] preference for titonians if they qualify
[44:15] and then the agreement that we've been
[44:16] voted on if somebody's from somerset and
[44:19] somebody's from
[44:20] the both have the same qualifications
[44:22] the titanium's going to get the job
[44:24] and that's enshrined in the agreement
[44:25] that we signed and both parties agreed
[44:27] to
[44:30] mr white how about security um around
[44:33] the facility
[44:34] i'm sure that's going to be the type of
[44:36] facility that people are going to want
[44:38] into that don't belong in there
[44:40] um how are we going to uh make sure that
[44:43] we've got
[44:44] adequate security well they they i
[44:46] forget how many cameras
[44:47] they have to have but it's fully secured
[44:49] and so
[44:50] if they're growing marijuana here in the
[44:52] building there's gonna
[44:54] it won't be like a windows here to the
[44:55] public so it's gonna be inside the
[44:57] building somewhere
[44:58] and it's gonna be security cameras uh
[45:00] the police department has to be involved
[45:02] in that the police department has the
[45:03] right to look at those cameras
[45:05] uh so i i think it's going to be uh very
[45:08] secure
[45:08] the special program addresses all of
[45:12] that so they're great questions and our
[45:13] planning board has been
[45:14] fully engaged with making sure that's
[45:16] part of their conditions and their
[45:18] special permit
[45:21] and that they have to have a they have
[45:22] to have it like an actual security plan
[45:24] and i think
[45:25] yes and the agreement dpd needs to i
[45:28] think the chief of police has to go in
[45:29] there and like sign off on everything
[45:32] i think the public should also remember
[45:34] that part of the reason why
[45:36] this not just this board but the board
[45:38] with um
[45:39] selectmen gular as well had been
[45:41] supportive of the
[45:42] three percent impact fee is in case
[45:45] something
[45:45] happens and you have to have more police
[45:48] presence or
[45:49] police have to go out um due to calls or
[45:52] things like that so it's in
[45:53] and i'm not saying that's going to
[45:54] happen i'm just saying it's an
[45:56] anticipation of things like that
[45:58] even though it's a business and not a
[46:00] family that's going to
[46:01] you know for example send a child to
[46:03] school which is a cost to the taxpayers
[46:06] um so they're we're anticipating things
[46:09] like that as well as best that we can
[46:11] so the revenue being used to pay the
[46:14] employees
[46:15] are marijuana
[46:19] facilities allowed to put money in banks
[46:22] it was a period of time has that been
[46:25] rectified
[46:26] or do they have to deal in a cash
[46:28] business
[46:29] what's that what's the currency it's
[46:31] been fleshed out has it been flushed out
[46:33] um it's easier i wouldn't say it's
[46:35] completely flexible yeah
[46:36] i haven't heard anything different from
[46:38] this because not all
[46:40] the banks are uh fdic insured
[46:43] and the rules were that your state can
[46:46] do something
[46:47] but the banking commission would not
[46:49] allow the federal rules from
[46:50] that type of money so if that's been
[46:54] fleshed out
[46:55] then it's easy to make payroll for the
[46:57] people yeah
[46:58] i thought i saw some banking i think it
[47:00] was just a massachusetts bank
[47:02] that was lending them money or having
[47:04] some accounts but i'm not positive of
[47:06] that
[47:06] i can't remember the name i have an
[47:08] answer i spoke with an attorney there's
[47:10] one bank in the area
[47:11] local area that is dealing with
[47:13] marijuana facilities
[47:15] but you're right yes they are
[47:18] yeah federal governments allow you yes and that was i questioned him on it because i i heard
[47:23] the same thing you did and there's only
[47:25] one bank that's large enough to do it
[47:27] in this area so that's what they're all
[47:28] i'm a licensed financial advisor and
[47:30] i'm not allowed to put clients into
[47:33] those types of
[47:34] investments yeah you can't
[47:38] you're right they all they seek private
[47:39] funds for investments
[47:41] but the actual banking to do payroll or
[47:43] whatnot there's one bank in the area
[47:45] that's doing it
[47:46] in colorado for years they were paying
[47:47] people with cash on that payment
[47:50] and they had a big vault in there and
[47:51] that was another security issue right they were i'm not sure what they
[47:56] feared more people stealing the
[47:58] marijuana
[47:58] people stealing the money but uh well
[48:00] the cartels were coming in because they
[48:02] didn't want to be in competition
[48:05] did you mr chairman is it okay uh we had a conversation earlier and you had
[48:09] said that
[48:10] um you know it's impossible to
[48:12] anticipate
[48:14] expenses and things like that that may
[48:16] arise from um
[48:17] the business opening but that we would
[48:19] monitor
[48:20] things like you know um okay the police
[48:23] are going out a lot or the fire
[48:24] department and things like that so did
[48:26] you wanna
[48:27] just for the public because we had a
[48:28] couple questions about it
[48:30] so yes in the three percent in three
[48:32] percent i mean what the three percent
[48:34] envisions is any type of
[48:36] additional um i like additional
[48:39] enforcement activities like from
[48:41] inspection from police
[48:43] uh like for money public safety i like
[48:45] any type of additional town efforts that
[48:51] we would
[48:52] uh you know as a town have to provide i
[48:54] would be included in the three percent
[48:56] uh one of the things i'm actually
[49:00] happening in other communities across
[49:01] the state right now is there's a lot of
[49:03] scrutiny
[49:04] i'm on exactly what i'm exactly what type of expenses are
[49:09] included in the three percent
[49:11] uh actually practically speaking i like
[49:14] and what a lot of and what a lot of
[49:17] uh cities in town are having to do now
[49:19] is trying to quantify
[49:21] i like exactly what exactly what type of
[49:24] expenses are made up
[49:26] oh you know like in the first second and
[49:28] third year in the three percent to
[49:30] quantify that all i can hope so i mean
[49:33] if
[49:34] i like if pure oasis is ever i'm in fact
[49:37] up and running you know this
[49:40] uh oh yeah the agree
[49:43] the agreement approved this evening is
[49:44] for five years
[49:46] i like and the expectation is after the
[49:48] five years all parties would really know
[49:50] the true costs
[49:52] all i can oh in any future agreement any
[49:55] future agreement would recognize
[49:58] oh you can better reflect any true costs
[50:00] that the
[50:02] oh you know our community really faces
[50:03] and has to deal with as a result
[50:08] yes is there a model that worked that
[50:11] they are
[50:11] using to come up with the amount of
[50:14] money that they think that's going to
[50:15] equal to
[50:16] over those five years
[50:19] oh you know uh you know i'm in terms of
[50:22] um
[50:23] i'm in terms of a model the model is
[50:25] really the three percent
[50:26] but every you know what i mean but what
[50:28] is it equal what is
[50:30] after
[50:34] oh yeah like in terms of a projection
[50:35] yeah like they don't actually
[50:37] know that yet because the market is
[50:39] still evolving
[50:44] going back from now to five years what
[50:47] is what is the model for that come to
[50:50] what does those figures
[50:51] equal well we don't know that only
[50:54] because
[50:54] i'm saying the company yeah the company
[50:56] because they're starting off small
[50:58] and they hope to expand they're going to
[51:00] get other companies
[51:02] so they don't have anything like this
[51:04] that's
[51:05] no they only have uh
[51:09] yeah they have a registered marijuana
[51:10] disease
[51:12] yeah they but they don't cultivate it
[51:13] correct so they want
[51:15] this site to help support their
[51:18] operation in dorchester
[51:19] um which makes sense we're we're a small
[51:22] quiet town
[51:23] you know it's not dorchester hopefully
[51:25] there's less crime obviously here so
[51:28] yeah i think they talked about uh and
[51:30] correct me from wrong that
[51:31] they were gonna use a hundred thousand
[51:33] square feet to grow marijuana
[51:35] there's another company that is
[51:36] interested it'll come also before us and
[51:39] we'll have a similar agreement
[51:40] that will also be called the growing
[51:42] marijuana there so
[51:43] they hope to expand none of the
[51:45] businesses there are going to
[51:47] be thrown out so those businesses that
[51:49] are there they continue
[51:51] being there but they it's i think
[51:53] instead of half a million square feet
[51:54] something like that that the building so
[51:55] they have a great potential
[51:57] uh for that and the town has a great
[51:59] potential for revenue
[52:00] that you that you know that's actually
[52:03] one of my
[52:04] concerns and it would be nice i think if
[52:06] we could have a stipulation
[52:07] in there as far as a
[52:10] gradual time frame because since
[52:14] we don't have any concrete figures
[52:16] because they don't they've never done
[52:18] this before
[52:19] they're going to have their business
[52:21] you're saying and i've heard them say
[52:22] too they're going to have
[52:24] another we go a certain amount of
[52:28] years a certain time frame before they
[52:30] can't just like all of a sudden you have
[52:32] another one another one another one
[52:34] and you know what they mean it's like
[52:37] not
[52:38] or do we not have anything to say on
[52:40] that the time
[52:42] the town of dayton i mean well they we
[52:44] would be signing a host uh agreement
[52:46] with
[52:46] whatever new company comes in for
[52:48] leasing so
[52:50] right now we just made the agreement
[52:51] with pure oasis who's talking about 100
[52:53] 000 square feet
[52:54] and quite frankly they may start off
[52:57] with 50 000
[52:58] square feet but they their potential for
[53:00] them is a hundred thousand square feet
[53:01] and then they
[53:02] will expand well it seemed like they
[53:03] actually if i heard correctly they had
[53:05] like two or three other businesses that were actually
[53:09] interested in coming and doing the same
[53:11] thing that they're doing
[53:16] let's keep a lid on it you know
[53:19] for the first couple years see see how
[53:22] much police
[53:24] uh we need see how much you know just so
[53:27] we know what is this actually
[53:29] are we doing better with them
[53:34] financially are we breaking you know
[53:35] what i mean as opposed to them getting
[53:37] another one and another one
[53:39] like see what happened get them and then
[53:43] maybe
[53:43] one on there yeah it's three percent of
[53:46] their gross sales so whenever they sell
[53:47] their product to another business
[53:50] i think uh my personal feeling is is
[53:53] that
[53:54] it's going to be difficult for us to
[53:55] prove to three percent because there's a
[53:57] lot of different things
[53:58] uh so i don't think we're gonna that's
[54:00] why i say it'd be nice to see like
[54:01] literally facts and things
[54:03] but we know what we we what we can look
[54:05] at
[54:06] so if we have somebody here in the
[54:07] office here who's actually keeping track
[54:08] of the expenses that the town
[54:10] that person while they're doing that
[54:12] gets that's part of the
[54:14] uh the three percent uh that we'll be
[54:16] asking but it's the police system
[54:18] i can't you know who knows but i i don't
[54:20] think it's i think we're gonna be able
[54:21] to get
[54:22] like put put the brakes on a little bit
[54:26] i see this yeah i hear what you're
[54:28] saying my personal feeling is and i'm
[54:29] not talking about the board we need to
[54:30] bring revenue into town i see it all the
[54:32] time on facebook and everything else
[54:34] where i bring businesses
[54:35] in we're not forced to smoke the
[54:37] marijuana i'm not forcing
[54:38] anything like that it's going to be
[54:40] taken out of town it's going to go up
[54:41] it could be any businesses i'm not i'm
[54:44] not singling out
[54:44] marijuana and the way they're running
[54:46] the business however
[54:49] see if you want to like talk about
[54:50] marijuana the one thing that does
[54:52] concern me concerning marijuana
[54:54] is they were asked a few times in their
[54:58] um info thing that they did
[55:01] a couple weeks ago what they plan on
[55:04] doing as far as a filtration
[55:07] hvac type system for odor
[55:10] and i really didn't get again any
[55:13] actual specific
[55:16] unit that they're using name that
[55:18] they're using and the efficiency
[55:20] and the actual outcome
[55:24] that this is success has been used here
[55:27] and it's
[55:27] the air is you know it's a certain
[55:30] percentage
[55:31] it's clear yeah even again i think it'd
[55:34] be nice for them
[55:35] not nice i mean they should know exactly
[55:39] what system they're being put in but all
[55:41] of that
[55:43] has to do with if
[55:46] like you the towns people kind of give
[55:48] them the green light
[55:49] upon you know those are things that they
[55:53] have to satisfy correct
[55:54] yes but that the the grant uh the
[55:58] it's the planning board that will
[55:59] actually give them the permit for this
[56:00] so it's not
[56:01] us to make that decision obviously we
[56:03] don't want order to be an issue
[56:04] and if you remember from that uh it was
[56:06] i believe it was last week
[56:08] they had two options but they didn't say
[56:09] which one they were going to use right
[56:11] what they did say what
[56:12] might not this one might not work that
[56:14] well if they went so that it's just
[56:16] when you start getting into maybe maybe
[56:19] not
[56:21] but what they did say was that because
[56:22] something that they had has experience
[56:24] in this field and they're going to
[56:25] listen to the consultant so that
[56:27] whatever mistakes they've made in the
[56:28] past they could someone said this
[56:29] filtration
[56:30] system doesn't work this is the one that
[56:31] we're going to go with i'm obviously i
[56:34] can't speak for the board but
[56:35] we're not going to tolerate odor coming
[56:37] from uh from over there
[56:39] quite frankly so but it is that it is
[56:41] the planning board that
[56:42] would impose that as like a condition on
[56:45] any special permit and they i just want
[56:47] to be clear they act completely
[56:48] independent from us they are
[56:50] they run their own elections they are
[56:51] their own elected officials so they
[56:53] would impose those conditions and i would assume they would have a
[56:57] public hearing
[56:58] um that night when they were going to
[57:00] vote and everybody could come that was
[57:02] interested and and i think that that's a
[57:03] good point i think that's fair
[57:05] um we don't want it to smell obviously
[57:08] and
[57:08] if they're not going to be the only ones
[57:10] over there i think it's very
[57:12] fair to to say that actually
[57:15] uh leanna's hand up first i just i just
[57:17] had a real quick question um what kind
[57:19] of oversight beyond
[57:20] the department of revenue and their tax
[57:22] returns does the town
[57:26] yeah to ensure that we're actually
[57:28] getting yeah i know that they give us
[57:29] they're going to have to give us an
[57:30] annual
[57:31] report that we'll all get the
[57:32] opportunity to take a look at
[57:34] okay uh we gotta
[57:37] say trust us
[57:52] and for a long time we got you know
[57:54] pretty good money from them on an annual
[57:56] basis
[57:56] under no firm obligation and then that
[57:59] all came to an end
[58:00] so i just want to be sure that we don't
[58:02] go into this
[58:04] blindly and remember how that can
[58:07] actually go yeah and that's what we
[58:10] thought we were going to get
[58:11] right if i remember correctly it was a
[58:13] 10-year agreement 100 000
[58:15] a year uh not geared for anything so the
[58:18] town actually i
[58:19] actually think was the boris left and
[58:20] decided where that money was going to go
[58:22] which i'm not
[58:23] too crazy about uh so uh
[58:26] this is your five-year agreement and
[58:28] then it gets renewed and uh
[58:30] like mr mueller autonomous said that we
[58:32] get to see exactly what we've had to use
[58:34] for expenses we
[58:35] i don't believe we keep we can go higher
[58:37] than three percent that's the state yeah
[58:38] it does yeah that's the ceiling
[58:40] with the highest figure hopefully we can
[58:43] show that
[58:44] yeah we've used that three percent if
[58:47] now it's gonna be a little less but
[58:48] that would be our goal so
[58:51] any other questions
[58:56] okay we'll go to the next item uh
[58:58] minutes uh
[58:59] last week was there anything on there
[59:01] just before can you move on
[59:02] let's see it's chuck oh yeah um
[59:05] i also like we're in public to comment
[59:07] at this point correct yes
[59:09] okay uh so we do have um a hand
[59:12] uh from jaws from from justin travis our
[59:15] library director
[59:17] okay and i'll ask um i'll ask her to
[59:19] unmute so she can
[59:21] speak jasmine mr virus
[59:28] no i was i don't really need to say
[59:30] anything the conversation had shifted
[59:32] away from the library so i didn't want
[59:34] to
[59:34] bring it back when um
[59:38] it had already shifted so okay wait
[59:42] thank you very much
[59:46] go to the next item minutes approval of
[59:47] them well we already did that public
[59:49] input
[59:49] we're going to go into executive session
[59:51] under massachusetts general law chapter
[59:53] 38 section 1
[59:55] 21 a 3 3 to discuss the strategy with
[59:59] respect to collective blogging or
[1:00:00] litigation if an open meeting may have
[1:00:02] a detrimental effect on the bargaining
[1:00:04] or litigating position of the public
[1:00:06] body
[1:00:06] and the chair so declares i declare in
[1:00:09] negotiations with the dayton police
[1:00:11] officers mass
[1:00:12] cop cop 30c we will not be coming back
[1:00:15] into a public meeting so we're going to
[1:00:16] have to go into executive
[1:00:18] session and um that will be it uh
[1:00:22] for the night so i'll entertain
[1:00:23] promotions so moved so a second
[1:00:26] are we going to have public input we
[1:00:29] hope we just have public
[1:00:30] input we have a couple more things we
[1:00:33] want to do
[1:00:34] okay i'll retract my emotions
[1:00:38] okay well i had asked if there's any
[1:00:40] more public input there was any
[1:00:41] i'm sorry that that's that's fine is
[1:00:43] there more on that topic
[1:00:45] another topic that we were on yeah okay
[1:00:48] any public input on anything else
[1:00:52] is this is this anything anything
[1:00:57] i see the policy here i live on forestry
[1:01:00] in the troublemaker area uh
[1:01:03] the firing range you know i was missing
[1:01:07] vietnam
[1:01:08] there i thought it was back in vietnam
[1:01:11] two days just that gun range was crazy
[1:01:14] mm-hmm when was this you don't mind me
[1:01:17] asking yeah
[1:01:17] this week i usually hear it when it's
[1:01:20] like that and i didn't
[1:01:22] work working in the yard two days just
[1:01:25] going and going
[1:01:27] didn't we asked a while ago we called
[1:01:30] the police station
[1:01:32] they said they had leased at the time
[1:01:35] we have an agreement with them that we do mutual trainings we do some things
[1:01:40] in time but we do allow them to use the
[1:01:42] range but we were
[1:01:43] i thought we were supposed to release i
[1:01:45] thought that public was supposed to be
[1:01:46] never
[1:01:47] right now can we not use that red flag
[1:01:50] not
[1:01:58] it usually happens in september so
[1:02:00] that's why i'm surprised that
[1:02:02] this is september but that's a good uh
[1:02:06] it wasn't my understanding it was awful
[1:02:09] it was off
[1:02:10] suddenly uh just listen to gunfire for
[1:02:12] two days
[1:02:14] it wasn't a weekend though right now
[1:02:15] yeah during the weekend yeah
[1:02:18] during the day yeah okay all day
[1:02:22] we were we had asked that
[1:02:26] a statement be made on the facebook page
[1:02:29] before
[1:02:30] the gun activity were to occur just to
[1:02:31] notify people in the area because some
[1:02:33] people don't drive
[1:02:34] down there and notice the red flag so we
[1:02:36] can
[1:02:38] certainly ensure that that happens going
[1:02:39] forward and i thank you for letting us
[1:02:41] know
[1:02:43] okay another thing the speed limit signs
[1:02:47] of
[1:02:47] forestry where are we at with that
[1:02:50] i mean we did a traffic study november
[1:02:52] uh 2019.
[1:02:55] i mean should we go to congress to get a
[1:02:57] speedo
[1:02:59] i mean i'm not sure what effect they'll
[1:03:02] have on mass d.o.t but
[1:03:03] it couldn't hurt but in all seriousness
[1:03:06] yeah are we gonna
[1:03:07] have a bylaw that we're gonna present at
[1:03:08] the special town meeting in october to
[1:03:12] grant us permission to set
[1:03:15] to establish speed safety zones
[1:03:18] specifically the one that has been
[1:03:20] discussed has been for pleasant street
[1:03:22] so far
[1:03:26] i think i talked to fred about this is
[1:03:28] that the 20 miles an hour
[1:03:30] yes
[1:03:33] the average speed is 41 right now
[1:03:37] um forestry you're talking about how far
[1:03:39] is it and we walk there constantly
[1:03:41] and if you know i gotta i'm gonna get an
[1:03:44] app for my phone will
[1:03:45] tell me the speed because a lot of times
[1:03:47] they're over 40
[1:03:49] and to put a 20 mile an hour speeds on
[1:03:52] there
[1:03:54] is that are they going to do it i don't
[1:03:56] think that's what you're talking about
[1:03:57] you're just asking for
[1:03:59] speed limit signs for the 30 miles per
[1:04:01] hour which i believe is the limit right
[1:04:03] so we can if you if you can put it on
[1:04:05] the agenda we can ask tom
[1:04:07] uh oh superintendent ferry is here is he
[1:04:09] still here
[1:04:10] oh okay is there a chance we could
[1:04:13] put a stop sign in the middle that has
[1:04:15] been just that has been discussed before
[1:04:18] we discussed that yeah
[1:04:22] we think that that may be a problem yeah
[1:04:24] no we've discussed that in the past
[1:04:26] uh we think some studies show that if
[1:04:28] you put stop signs then what happens is
[1:04:30] people stop and then they speed up
[1:04:32] actually drive faster they get to the
[1:04:33] next stop circle back
[1:04:35] absolutely i do i do
[1:04:38] feel personally
[1:04:41] the other thing is i've noticed that
[1:04:42] we've asked the chief uh
[1:04:44] police to have more enforcement of this
[1:04:46] you know you can probably speed
[1:04:48] limit signs up but if you don't have
[1:04:49] enforcement it doesn't make any sense
[1:04:51] and i've noticed just the past couple
[1:04:52] days there's been cruises on different
[1:04:54] streets
[1:04:56] so i'm glad that they're out there in
[1:04:57] the community now and uh hopefully
[1:04:59] i've seen given those uh speeders
[1:05:01] tickets but uh
[1:05:02] interesting about far street when they
[1:05:04] did that study and i believe the
[1:05:05] police department had actually stopped
[1:05:07] some people
[1:05:08] uh a lot of those people that we stopped
[1:05:10] for speeding were residents of
[1:05:12] forestry that's uh that's a little bit
[1:05:16] of
[1:05:16] the problem there but that might
[1:05:19] personally no i'm not saying it's europe
[1:05:20] my personal feeling is that i don't care
[1:05:22] where you live if you're speeding it you
[1:05:23] get a ticket
[1:05:24] yeah yeah and that's that's how you get
[1:05:27] the message out
[1:05:28] right but you're correct that forestry
[1:05:30] was actually brought this to our
[1:05:31] attention the
[1:05:32] full speeding thing was street foreign i
[1:05:36] don't have to see it there we go
[1:05:37] seven or eight one of us uh forest
[1:05:39] street pleasant street
[1:05:41] uh i'm not sure i think part of william
[1:05:42] street was correct fremont street
[1:05:44] portland
[1:05:45] barton maple i believe yeah
[1:05:52] i just heard the other night there was
[1:05:53] another marijuana discussion
[1:05:55] that's going to go on william street and
[1:05:57] they were concerned about these
[1:05:59] speed on william street is a nightmare
[1:06:02] so
[1:06:11] yeah i've noticed that yeah i mean
[1:06:13] especially with that construction of the
[1:06:14] house
[1:06:15] on the corner yeah well that's on uh
[1:06:18] technically tremont yeah
[1:06:20] but it there's constantly tripped it's a
[1:06:22] cut through
[1:06:24] from time to time correct
[1:06:27] does it fly down there to us and i've
[1:06:30] seen them
[1:06:32] full disclosure i'm involved in the
[1:06:33] historical side which is at the center
[1:06:35] of william street right i swear there's
[1:06:36] gonna be accidents almost every day and
[1:06:37] a lot of times there's big tractor
[1:06:38] trailers that
[1:06:39] just come down down the hill and uh if
[1:06:42] you're leaving center to go on william
[1:06:43] street you know
[1:06:44] this is a hill you may not see it but
[1:06:46] they come down so fast
[1:06:47] something's going to happen there so so
[1:06:49] i also want you to know that we have
[1:06:51] discussed with the
[1:06:52] um just casually with the chief of
[1:06:54] police
[1:06:55] um we've bandied ideas like
[1:06:59] dedicating someone to traffic
[1:07:00] enforcement or having
[1:07:02] part of someone's dedicated role traffic
[1:07:05] enforcement being one of their
[1:07:06] priorities they could
[1:07:08] earn their own salary it wouldn't be
[1:07:10] much trouble
[1:07:12] i mean you could you could probably pay
[1:07:14] for a car or a salary
[1:07:15] from the tickets maybe then it would
[1:07:18] slow down
[1:07:19] yeah i just know that i got a commitment
[1:07:21] from the chief that uh
[1:07:23] because we just hired two police
[1:07:24] officers so i said can we get them out
[1:07:26] on the streets because that's what
[1:07:27] people are talking about
[1:07:28] there isn't that much crime in that not
[1:07:30] that there isn't crime but there is you
[1:07:32] know there isn't that much
[1:07:33] but speeding is a big issue for a lot of
[1:07:35] people and if you got young children
[1:07:37] yeah yeah
[1:07:41] we that's a very good crowd here this
[1:07:43] evening i commend you and thank you for
[1:07:46] your participation in government and i'm
[1:07:48] going to throw this out
[1:07:50] i don't have an answer but i welcome
[1:07:52] your input
[1:07:54] i've heard all kinds of discussions
[1:07:57] about
[1:07:57] 40 30 20 mile an hour speed limits but i
[1:08:00] scratch my head and i say
[1:08:02] you could make a tent but if there's no
[1:08:04] one to enforce it
[1:08:06] doesn't matter you're not signing there
[1:08:07] right now at 40 and it's not being
[1:08:09] enforced
[1:08:10] and i'm throwing this out for feedback
[1:08:13] not because i've drawn an opinion and i
[1:08:16] know other communities
[1:08:17] do quotas and i'm questioning whether or
[1:08:20] not
[1:08:21] a quota system put in place with the
[1:08:23] police department
[1:08:25] may not be necessary to get
[1:08:29] speed under control in this town i have
[1:08:31] a thought
[1:08:33] regarding that well we only have so much
[1:08:36] money and
[1:08:37] you have two police officers on duty at
[1:08:39] any given time
[1:08:41] in this town that's what we have
[1:08:45] and they have to fight in scratch for
[1:08:48] every nickel and dime that they get i
[1:08:50] understand that their
[1:08:51] request for sixty two thousand dollars
[1:08:53] was it correct me if i'm wrong
[1:08:55] it was for a car another cruiser and
[1:08:58] some repairs or something
[1:08:59] i understand that was shot down at the
[1:09:01] last time maybe forty five thousand was
[1:09:03] approved yeah but yeah
[1:09:05] a full total wasn't it was recommended
[1:09:06] over 45 rather than 62 000 right
[1:09:09] and it's still 17 shy of where they
[1:09:11] wanted to be and
[1:09:12] probably needed to be when you when you
[1:09:17] look at the individual cruisers and
[1:09:19] things like that
[1:09:20] those things take a beating they're all local the brakes are getting
[1:09:24] shot every uh
[1:09:25] every so often those those are city
[1:09:28] miles those are hard miles those
[1:09:30] vehicles are being driven
[1:09:32] so they need more maintenance and and
[1:09:35] they need more money for it
[1:09:37] so where does that come from well you
[1:09:39] ask about a quota system and a quota
[1:09:41] system the problem is
[1:09:42] it becomes almost unethical it really
[1:09:45] does it it draws out the the
[1:09:48] worst instincts in people and one of the
[1:09:51] things that we don't want is to go from
[1:09:54] what we have now which is relative
[1:09:56] freedom to you know this
[1:09:58] overarching police state where if you
[1:10:00] drive 21 miles an hour in a 20 mile an
[1:10:02] hour zone you're going to get pulled
[1:10:03] over
[1:10:04] nobody wants that either so there's got
[1:10:07] to be some balance
[1:10:08] um you know periodic enforcement should
[1:10:11] be enough to kind of deter most speeders but a
[1:10:15] quota system
[1:10:17] it just it just reeks of a police state
[1:10:19] and i wouldn't tolerate that for a
[1:10:21] minute
[1:10:22] i think it's all to your point
[1:10:24] selectment hall i think it's and i'm not
[1:10:26] giving my opinion on
[1:10:27] court although i do agree with a lot of
[1:10:28] the points you made and i think
[1:10:31] probably a lot of people will agree with
[1:10:32] them but i just think that
[1:10:35] the reason why people don't and this has
[1:10:36] been said at meetings before the reason
[1:10:38] why people are less likely to speak
[1:10:40] speed in towns like berkeley is because
[1:10:42] they have a reputation
[1:10:44] of being strong on and i'm not talking
[1:10:47] about speeding you know
[1:10:48] 21 and a 20 i mean you know going 30 and
[1:10:51] a 20 you'll probably get pulled over
[1:10:52] at any point they come out of nowhere
[1:10:55] and i think that
[1:10:56] it's gonna take some time but if we can
[1:10:59] dedicate
[1:11:00] so if we can afford i should be clear if
[1:11:02] we can afford to dedicate more resources
[1:11:04] to traffic enforcement we should because
[1:11:06] that will go a long way to
[1:11:07] having that in my opinion reputation
[1:11:10] that if you speed in this town
[1:11:12] you're going to get pulled over and i
[1:11:14] think that is
[1:11:16] when a word gets out because we still
[1:11:17] live in in a small town where
[1:11:19] word gets around in that way then you
[1:11:22] might see
[1:11:22] less of that speeding just a thought and
[1:11:25] to
[1:11:26] if i may um speed grants
[1:11:29] they can apply for it and get extra
[1:11:31] money to put on an officer from the
[1:11:33] state
[1:11:34] in something called the speed grant i
[1:11:36] don't know exactly how it works
[1:11:38] but if if you really wanted that extra
[1:11:41] enforcement that's that's all they would
[1:11:42] really have to do is
[1:11:44] apply for a speech man but i i don't
[1:11:47] know exactly
[1:11:49] how any of that would work i'm sure we
[1:11:50] can look into it about that
[1:11:52] in the hallway a few minutes ago you'd
[1:11:53] be the expert on that
[1:11:55] that's a good idea we can definitely
[1:11:57] discuss it with you here for the
[1:11:58] executive sessions
[1:12:00] that's what we have yeah i also in
[1:12:03] trouble
[1:12:04] a little bit with the quotas too because
[1:12:07] towards the end of the month if you're
[1:12:08] doing a monthly uh then all of a sudden
[1:12:11] they're gonna be stopping
[1:12:12] speeders but you could speak beginning
[1:12:13] the month you're not getting stopped so
[1:12:17] but it's it's it's an idea so some will
[1:12:26] main street so i call main street
[1:12:30] i live there around let's say midnight
[1:12:33] to four o'clock the
[1:12:35] i might be up in the middle of the night
[1:12:37] and all of a sudden
[1:12:39] i mean these people are probably going
[1:12:40] 100 miles an hour i'm serious
[1:12:42] and if you had the offices in those nice
[1:12:44] specific spots right near the bridge and
[1:12:46] all that
[1:12:46] they would make a mint and another thing
[1:12:48] one more thing is that there's a
[1:12:50] relatively new uh 45 mile an hour sign
[1:12:53] going up towards williams street okay
[1:12:56] fine
[1:12:57] there was one on the same on the other
[1:12:59] side going this way
[1:13:00] towards 138 i said 35 miles an hour and
[1:13:03] that mysteriously disappeared
[1:13:05] i don't know what happened it'll be
[1:13:07] wonderful if we could get that one back
[1:13:09] because they're going this way the same
[1:13:10] way they think it's 45.
[1:13:13] was it i thought it was i thought it was
[1:13:15] william street 35
[1:13:17] i thought it was 30 going into uh 138
[1:13:19] right when you go up 138 of course up
[1:13:21] the hill that's 30 right right we all
[1:13:22] know that
[1:13:23] and then at a certain point and my house
[1:13:25] becomes
[1:13:26] is not weird is this true it's 45 but
[1:13:28] then
[1:13:29] on the other side going that way towards
[1:13:31] the um the library it's 35 then it goes
[1:13:33] to 30 at the library
[1:13:35] so that sign across the street from my
[1:13:36] sign in front of my house
[1:13:38] is missing for 35 and i'd love to have
[1:13:40] that gentleman take care of that
[1:13:42] tomorrow please
[1:13:43] yeah because it's i didn't realize it
[1:13:44] was
[1:13:48] and that 50 mile per hour sign on um
[1:13:52] yes william street had disappeared does
[1:13:54] anyone remember for like months and then
[1:13:55] it
[1:13:56] came back so it appeared
[1:14:03] and if you live on main street and i
[1:14:05] don't uh you live on main street
[1:14:07] it's not a very good road so imagine
[1:14:09] once it's paved
[1:14:10] oh what it's going to be like we should
[1:14:12] address it before yes
[1:14:14] it's like it's like starships flying by
[1:14:16] my house i'm telling you to the audience
[1:14:17] i'm like it's that fast i'm just like
[1:14:20] yeah okay tomorrow right well i'm
[1:14:22] impressed that you're up at midnight
[1:14:24] because i haven't seen midnight in such
[1:14:25] a long time
[1:14:31] are there any other questions
[1:14:35] um yep
[1:14:38] i shouldn't say questions in the
[1:14:39] comments regarding the zoom feeds and
[1:14:42] everything like that
[1:14:43] so i i don't think it's much of a secret
[1:14:45] that you know we
[1:14:46] um want to see lenny up there and
[1:14:49] everything and all his glory
[1:14:51] not that we don't want to see you guys
[1:14:52] either i get it
[1:14:54] no offense we don't want to see
[1:14:55] ourselves either let's see
[1:14:58] um at the last meeting you guys had on
[1:15:01] zoom
[1:15:01] we couldn't see when we couldn't hear
[1:15:04] him
[1:15:04] um i i could hear brett just fine up
[1:15:07] here ken just fine
[1:15:08] but i couldn't
[1:15:18] yes we did we just think we rectify that
[1:15:22] we think we did the other day we had uh
[1:15:24] we did a sample
[1:15:25] zoom it was me and it was uh robert
[1:15:28] woods and it was a third i forget who
[1:15:29] the third person was
[1:15:32] jonathan gale at home on zoom and they
[1:15:34] did different
[1:15:35] things with the volume and stuff like
[1:15:36] that and we were able it was a little
[1:15:37] bit of an echo
[1:15:39] but with exception that we could hear
[1:15:41] people in different spots
[1:15:42] can you can you do like a microphone
[1:15:45] between
[1:15:46] each of you we used to have one what
[1:15:48] happened last time
[1:15:49] we have one microphone and something
[1:16:04] so yeah there's a few things and number
[1:16:06] one with regards to
[1:16:08] the microphone that was used at the i'm
[1:16:11] at the last
[1:16:11] meeting uh uh that mic is set up
[1:16:15] i'm i'm actually to the new technology
[1:16:19] on top of the tv
[1:16:21] um in the last four days we've been
[1:16:24] working a lot on this issue because we
[1:16:26] understand that it's a major issue
[1:16:29] and i like what we have found is i'm a
[1:16:32] few things number one
[1:16:34] uh they actually they actually have
[1:16:37] additional microphones which we can
[1:16:39] order
[1:16:40] uh it's like oh so each member of the
[1:16:42] board of selectmen is able to have their
[1:16:44] own dedicated mic to get their audio um
[1:16:49] oh yeah like so like we're already on
[1:16:50] top of that but i thought we already
[1:16:53] we had these microphones that i didn't
[1:16:56] mean to cut you off but
[1:16:57] i was just under the impression they one
[1:16:59] sat here
[1:17:00] and then he had one and then excuse me
[1:17:03] selectman hall had one as well
[1:17:05] so what happened to those because we
[1:17:07] already had a solution one over there was there was two there were at
[1:17:11] least two yeah
[1:17:12] i thought there were three yeah so the
[1:17:14] original i feel like proper right now
[1:17:16] solving this so the original auxiliary
[1:17:18] microphones they don't actually
[1:17:20] interface
[1:17:21] with uh with the new
[1:17:25] or the new platform oh you know that we
[1:17:27] bought the show
[1:17:31] however in the past however in the past
[1:17:33] day and a half based on the testing that
[1:17:35] we did i think yesterday we also
[1:17:38] i like have found out i believe what is
[1:17:40] actually the root of the issue
[1:17:43] i like in the root of the issue i i uh
[1:17:46] like actually goes
[1:17:48] oh you know oh like it goes into like a
[1:17:50] comcast issue
[1:17:53] uh i like it uh like actually with a
[1:17:56] bandwidth of a wireless
[1:18:00] i like over the zoom oh you know like it
[1:18:04] basically exhausts itself like in causes
[1:18:06] way more feedback
[1:18:10] oh you know than necessary and that's
[1:18:11] why when we do the individual test
[1:18:14] everything works
[1:18:16] absolutely perfect but then when
[1:18:18] everyone's logged on
[1:18:20] uh oh you through comcast everything
[1:18:23] basically
[1:18:23] overloads our bandwidth so like in
[1:18:27] talking
[1:18:28] with uh and talking
[1:18:30] [Music]
[1:18:31] with our it administrator he has already
[1:18:34] set up a way for the fiber that
[1:18:37] like is in town hall all right to cross
[1:18:40] over the complex and into old town hall
[1:18:42] so we can set up directly to that fiber
[1:18:45] because i noticed it slows down and then it speeds up and then everybody
[1:18:49] sounds like alvin the chipmunks
[1:18:51] oh yes we plug in now to the fiber
[1:18:54] rather than logging on oh you know like
[1:18:58] oh oh you know like oh like how cute
[1:19:01] actually through comcast wireless we
[1:19:03] should knock one would be good and
[1:19:04] that's what we're gonna
[1:19:07] i like actually planned to do because
[1:19:09] was there a timetable
[1:19:10] that that could possibly possibly be
[1:19:12] done
[1:19:14] um i believe the fiber is already there
[1:19:16] and we just
[1:19:18] oh i can we just have to make sure we're
[1:19:19] plugging into it just from what i am
[1:19:21] just utilizing
[1:19:22] exactly um we had a call the other day
[1:19:26] um during the day and um
[1:19:29] i was i couldn't come to old town hall
[1:19:31] and i had to do the meeting over zoom
[1:19:33] everybody else was at old town hall
[1:19:35] um and i could hear everyone it was a
[1:19:38] little tough with the audience because
[1:19:40] if you're not at a microphone it just it
[1:19:42] sounds a little bit echoey
[1:19:44] but um to address your point about not
[1:19:47] being able to see selectmen hall i think
[1:19:49] that's because
[1:19:50] we sit at a straight desk and you can
[1:19:52] see
[1:19:53] obviously my big head and you can see
[1:19:54] ken but he
[1:19:56] gets um you can't see you because we're
[1:19:58] all sitting in a straight line so maybe
[1:20:00] for the next meeting we could just
[1:20:02] slightly move the table
[1:20:04] not a lot just like a little bit this
[1:20:05] way so that we're sitting
[1:20:07] like this and not like this and then you
[1:20:09] would be able to see everyone
[1:20:11] just the thought because the camera is
[1:20:13] like oh the camera is right there they
[1:20:14] say
[1:20:15] would be right here on the wall tv and
[1:20:17] the camera's above it
[1:20:18] so it's going to get this is why brett
[1:20:20] actually asked for this spot
[1:20:23] for us
[1:20:27] i'm playing musical chairs
[1:20:42] [Laughter]
[1:20:44] yes i don't like soon to be
[1:20:46] if i could be honest i don't like zoom i
[1:20:48] prefer this quite frankly
[1:20:50] uh but while we have zoom you have to
[1:20:53] deal with it
[1:20:54] i'm sorry interrupt you no no i just let
[1:20:56] the help
[1:20:58] i had requested the second microphone i
[1:21:01] understand there is an interface problem
[1:21:04] i also wonder if um
[1:21:08] a booster to the internet
[1:21:11] at the old town hall would
[1:21:15] help strengthen the signal
[1:21:19] do you know what might also help is a
[1:21:21] stern call to
[1:21:22] that our governmental affairs rep at
[1:21:25] comcast i forget his name i will get
[1:21:27] that contact
[1:21:28] information and let him know that we're
[1:21:31] having difficulty streaming our lives
[1:21:33] so this isn't like a resident calling
[1:21:35] who wants to watch more no this is
[1:21:36] important this is you know
[1:21:37] yep i would do that i'll be strong and
[1:21:40] let them know because maybe he's not
[1:21:41] aware
[1:21:42] that our our bandwidth is not is not
[1:21:45] sufficient to have a public meeting
[1:21:47] it doesn't make any sense there's no
[1:21:49] reason so um i believe his name is mike
[1:21:51] i will get that and we can call him
[1:21:53] okay thank you good point is there any
[1:21:56] more
[1:21:56] uh public uh rafa developing um a couple
[1:22:00] of days ago
[1:22:00] the uh published an article about
[1:22:04] the possibility of diamond reasoning
[1:22:08] what is your word yes i i brought it up
[1:22:11] at the uh
[1:22:12] the last meeting last uh last week we
[1:22:14] had it was a proclamation for
[1:22:16] great uh gay pride month and i brought
[1:22:19] up that i'm thinking of i'm seriously
[1:22:20] thinking of bringing it
[1:22:22] uh before the board of second to vote on
[1:22:23] it will be a public hearing
[1:22:25] it will probably not be in a little room
[1:22:26] like this possibly at the school one of
[1:22:29] the schools
[1:22:30] and people will have input on it and
[1:22:31] they can for or against
[1:22:34] uh so just from uh so you know what my
[1:22:37] position is
[1:22:38] uh i'm not talking about putting a gay
[1:22:39] pride flag on a flagpole out there which
[1:22:41] has the
[1:22:42] american flag and the pow mia flag i
[1:22:45] would uh prefer not
[1:22:46] a separate flagpole either but if you
[1:22:48] walk into the building to the
[1:22:50] uh where the door is to the right
[1:22:51] there's a bench and then there's a wall
[1:22:53] and i would ask you know i would support
[1:22:56] putting a gay pride flag in june uh on
[1:23:00] that uh
[1:23:00] the building there so i haven't decided
[1:23:03] with
[1:23:04] i've talked to our town administrator
[1:23:05] with thinking about the logistics of
[1:23:07] having the public hearing
[1:23:09] i will then bring it back to the board
[1:23:10] to decide whether or not this is the way
[1:23:12] we want to proceed as well as
[1:23:14] the date and all that kind of stuff in
[1:23:16] the place and then uh he'll be the
[1:23:18] public will
[1:23:19] be made aware of them excuse me
[1:23:22] it may not be displayed this month it's
[1:23:25] not going to be
[1:23:25] no it's not going to be this week no
[1:23:27] it's it's not going to be
[1:23:28] displayed this month if i'm part of the
[1:23:31] human rights
[1:23:32] commission i'm the liaison person for
[1:23:34] the voter selectmen we discussed this
[1:23:35] maybe in february or march
[1:23:37] i didn't think we should do it this year
[1:23:39] this quickly there needs to be
[1:23:41] conversations
[1:23:42] and uh so that's why um i've asked the
[1:23:44] board that we
[1:23:45] i presented to the board that we're
[1:23:46] going to have a public hearing so that
[1:23:48] people can come
[1:23:49] and express their position uh but it's definitely not going to come up
[1:23:54] definitely won't be on
[1:23:56] we won't have time to have it here
[1:23:59] like when it's going to stop yeah well
[1:24:02] hopefully it stops when we actually have
[1:24:04] the vote but i hear what you're saying
[1:24:06] i see the same stuff on on facebook so
[1:24:09] uh just so you know it will not be this
[1:24:12] month
[1:24:13] uh i will present it within the next
[1:24:14] couple of months we'll have a
[1:24:17] hearing on it and people can voice
[1:24:20] for or against and then the board will
[1:24:22] uh i feel strongly that the board
[1:24:25] should be able to make that decision
[1:24:26] that we're elected by
[1:24:28] not necessarily by some of you but we're
[1:24:31] elected by the the residents of town
[1:24:33] and we should be able to have the
[1:24:35] courage to make a
[1:24:36] decision on that mr white so i listened
[1:24:39] in
[1:24:39] on the human rights committee and
[1:24:42] i recall you saying we shouldn't go
[1:24:45] forward with this because of the
[1:24:47] animosity that it causes and i think if
[1:24:50] we're gonna
[1:24:51] run up to a vote we're just gonna we're
[1:24:54] a divided country right now
[1:24:56] we don't need any more division and we
[1:24:59] have our
[1:25:00] stars and stripes and you know our flag
[1:25:03] which is according to our constitution
[1:25:07] recognizing everybody whatever religion
[1:25:11] whatever race whatever color whatever
[1:25:13] creed
[1:25:14] and why would we go with
[1:25:23] something that is going to further cause
[1:25:25] division
[1:25:26] and finger pointing and um
[1:25:29] name calling and you know
[1:25:33] we've been fine with it as we are
[1:25:36] and maybe what we need to do is start
[1:25:38] honoring what our
[1:25:40] founding fathers said that flag means
[1:25:42] and it does represent
[1:25:44] everybody my major in college
[1:25:47] was history and that's not what the
[1:25:48] final four that flag did not represent
[1:25:51] all of americans it represented whites
[1:25:55] protestants and landowners that's what
[1:25:58] that's who it represented
[1:26:00] it didn't represent the slaves it is
[1:26:02] true
[1:26:04] it didn't represent slaves and right now
[1:26:07] the lgbtq
[1:26:09] community is being discriminated against
[1:26:12] i think you can't prove that there's far
[1:26:15] more acceptance
[1:26:17] now absolutely than there
[1:26:20] has ever been i think we've made huge
[1:26:22] strides
[1:26:23] both on people of color um
[1:26:27] lgbtq um
[1:26:30] this is far it's far better than it's
[1:26:32] ever been
[1:26:33] and this seems to be a rocking shoe to just cause
[1:26:40] division and i think you were right when
[1:26:43] you said that
[1:26:44] at the human rights committee meeting
[1:26:47] that
[1:26:47] going forward with this is probably more
[1:26:49] detrimental than positive
[1:26:51] i think what i said i don't have an
[1:26:53] exact quote but at that time i didn't
[1:26:55] think it was appropriate to
[1:26:57] but we're going to have that public
[1:26:58] hearing we're going to have that
[1:26:59] discussion
[1:27:00] people can express whatever their
[1:27:02] opinions are on this i think we can
[1:27:03] avoid the
[1:27:04] divisiveness i i would hope that that
[1:27:06] doesn't divide the time because
[1:27:08] you know small town will be like
[1:27:12] but it's also divided those that support
[1:27:14] putting the flag up so
[1:27:15] it's uh it's left on health
[1:27:19] i've said it over and over again
[1:27:23] i totally think it is unfair
[1:27:27] to spotlight and to put lbgtq
[1:27:32] in the in the crosshairs this isn't
[1:27:36] about
[1:27:37] them it's about all groups
[1:27:40] in this community it's about
[1:27:44] african-americans it's about the native
[1:27:47] americans
[1:27:49] why aren't we coming up if we're going
[1:27:52] to come up
[1:27:52] with an all-inclusive policy
[1:27:56] that if written and written well
[1:27:59] would include lbgtq so this discussion
[1:28:03] isn't
[1:28:03] about them it's about all groups
[1:28:08] what is going to be accepted what isn't
[1:28:11] going to be
[1:28:12] accepted i i think it's
[1:28:17] it has divided the town but it has put
[1:28:20] the gay community in an
[1:28:24] unfavorable situation
[1:28:27] that the spotlight is on them
[1:28:30] in a negative way i haven't lived in
[1:28:33] this town for over 30 years
[1:28:36] and i've seen the discrimination
[1:28:39] and the vandalism and the out and out
[1:28:41] destruction
[1:28:43] and the driving out of native americans
[1:28:45] from this very
[1:28:46] from the that building
[1:28:50] from their pow-wow
[1:28:53] services out there on that track
[1:28:56] which had nothing to do to the
[1:28:58] desecration
[1:28:59] of their burial ground right behind my
[1:29:01] house
[1:29:04] right if we want to talk about
[1:29:08] disrespect there is a lot
[1:29:11] more documented discrimination
[1:29:15] against the native americans in this
[1:29:16] town than anything
[1:29:19] that i've heard with lbgtq in this town
[1:29:25] and to be honest with you
[1:29:29] an all-inclusive policy brings a lot
[1:29:32] more support
[1:29:36] because and i get really uncomfortable
[1:29:39] because it's spotlighting lgbtq
[1:29:42] they're a small group but there is
[1:29:45] strength
[1:29:46] and there is wisdom with all of the
[1:29:48] stakeholders coming together and having
[1:29:50] input
[1:29:51] in an all-inclusive policy
[1:29:55] that is written in such a way that it
[1:29:57] includes all the shareholders
[1:29:59] so we're not talking about lgbtq we're
[1:30:02] talking about policy
[1:30:03] it is encompassing them and other groups
[1:30:08] my frustration they did it in time and
[1:30:10] they did it very well
[1:30:12] so and they're willing to help us if we
[1:30:15] wanted to go there
[1:30:19] well i've stated my position yep so
[1:30:23] we were talking about division and the
[1:30:24] statements you had made
[1:30:26] mr are very divisive um
[1:30:30] you know my father was a world war ii
[1:30:32] veteran he stood up against hitler
[1:30:34] that old generation did under that flag
[1:30:40] and all three of us did the same thing
[1:30:42] absolutely
[1:30:44] there are guys in this room yours truly
[1:30:46] included who put on that uniform and
[1:30:48] swore that oath
[1:30:49] and it hasn't expired and that oath
[1:30:52] wasn't too
[1:30:53] quite protestant i'm not a protestant
[1:30:55] you know
[1:30:58] it's the american flag is inclusive of
[1:31:01] everyone
[1:31:02] did we have a rough start absolutely i
[1:31:05] was a history major myself
[1:31:07] one of the benefits i had in my
[1:31:09] education was learning logic
[1:31:11] from jesuits jesuits are brilliant
[1:31:15] at logic and
[1:31:18] the the if that argument the slippery
[1:31:20] slope is an absolutely valid
[1:31:22] argument that okay
[1:31:26] this month we're going to have the gay
[1:31:29] pride flag
[1:31:30] next month what's to stop some lunatic
[1:31:33] from demand and he wants the confederate
[1:31:34] flag out there
[1:31:36] the month after that why not a swastika
[1:31:38] or the hammer and sickle or the most
[1:31:40] murderous regime in history the chinese
[1:31:42] are you comparing
[1:31:51] you have one flag and that one flag is
[1:31:54] the red white and blue
[1:31:55] it's flying out there now that's the
[1:31:58] inclusive flag
[1:31:59] not all of these other flags what's to
[1:32:02] stop us from flying
[1:32:03] just any flag a godston flag there's
[1:32:06] hundreds out there
[1:32:07] we've got one we've got more important
[1:32:09] things to talk about right
[1:32:10] you talked about speeding you talked
[1:32:12] about the library you talked about some
[1:32:14] really important things and i was with
[1:32:15] you on a lot of that stuff
[1:32:17] but when you start going off in that
[1:32:18] direction man i can't support you i
[1:32:20] can't be
[1:32:21] there so that's where we're at
[1:32:25] i think it's an important issue you
[1:32:26] talked about was it your grandfather in
[1:32:28] world war ii no my father your father
[1:32:31] you remember the service that the blacks
[1:32:33] were segregated they weren't allowed to
[1:32:35] be with whites wasn't right
[1:32:37] absolutely wasn't right and it was
[1:32:38] president truman who corrected corrected
[1:32:40] that but
[1:32:41] there are times in our history uh when
[1:32:43] people have been
[1:32:44] discriminated against and we have
[1:32:45] technology i know that some people don't think that
[1:32:48] our kids or the students should be
[1:32:49] taught this stuff but this is our
[1:32:50] history
[1:32:51] good or bad we're always absolutely
[1:32:54] always
[1:32:54] most of the time we're moving forward
[1:32:56] we're correcting the mistakes that we
[1:32:58] made in the past the way we treated
[1:32:59] uh native americans where we we treated
[1:33:01] blacks in america
[1:33:03] how about the way fbr treated the
[1:33:04] japanese you rounded them up and put
[1:33:05] them in concert absolutely
[1:33:07] that was that was disgusting you and i
[1:33:08] weren't around but that's that's history that's what i'm talking
[1:33:12] about so it's it's that kind of division
[1:33:13] we need to get past that crap
[1:33:15] and just red white and blue that's our
[1:33:17] flag and the discussion
[1:33:18] and and let's get on to the more
[1:33:20] important things the actual business
[1:33:22] of governing our tiny little charming
[1:33:24] town mayberry
[1:33:29] there is also full of speeders
[1:33:37] there is also another concern that i
[1:33:42] have
[1:33:43] of putting any flag before a policy
[1:33:48] and that is lawsuits
[1:33:52] not just the risk and the expense
[1:33:55] of paying a judgment if we discriminate
[1:33:58] against the group
[1:33:59] because i can think of a couple
[1:34:00] controversial groups
[1:34:02] that are national groups that have
[1:34:04] lawyers on retainer
[1:34:06] that have no problem suing it down
[1:34:09] but if you take a look at our budget
[1:34:12] on a town budget with 2022
[1:34:17] there is no money budgeted for
[1:34:20] attorney's fees
[1:34:21] for lawsuits
[1:34:24] and i'm going to have a very difficult
[1:34:27] time
[1:34:28] supporting paying a lawyer to
[1:34:31] defend against those lawsuits
[1:34:35] because people that
[1:34:38] want to go this direction you've been so
[1:34:41] on
[1:34:42] you will be sued the town of dayton
[1:34:45] will not maybe suit will be sued
[1:34:49] so we better stop budgeting legal fees
[1:34:52] for that
[1:34:54] mayor a solid policy you might prevent
[1:34:57] that
[1:34:58] all right dr c yes so just a couple
[1:35:01] things so we actually never
[1:35:03] fund that settlements i believe it's a
[1:35:05] settlements um
[1:35:07] line we have a town council line and the
[1:35:09] reason is we
[1:35:10] as a board have felt it's more fair to
[1:35:12] bring those items via special article to
[1:35:15] the town meeting
[1:35:17] and have the voters decide if that's
[1:35:18] what we should be using the monies
[1:35:20] which is probably where that power
[1:35:22] should be i also want to say
[1:35:24] um i'm not aware and everybody knows how
[1:35:27] i feel about this issue
[1:35:28] i really don't have anything more to add
[1:35:30] about it um but that i'm not aware of
[1:35:32] any town in the commonwealth that is
[1:35:34] currently flying
[1:35:35] an lgbtq pride flag that has been sued
[1:35:40] they have a part boston has a policy
[1:35:42] bridgewater doesn't
[1:35:46] is there any other yeah just the fact
[1:35:49] that this conversation keeps on
[1:35:56] coming up
[1:35:57] repeatedly i didn't bring it up tonight
[1:35:59] but no i don't hear what you're saying
[1:36:01] we're talking about it uh people are
[1:36:03] concerned about it
[1:36:05] uh is a lack of focus so you did mention
[1:36:08] that you were elected to make decisions
[1:36:11] true but for town business
[1:36:15] and this topic is personal politics
[1:36:20] so it's a misuse of the power that the
[1:36:23] public
[1:36:24] has provided you and it's a waste of
[1:36:28] resources for the town
[1:36:31] so we're wasting time resources
[1:36:35] money talking about issues
[1:36:38] related to personal politics it's actually shameful that we've been
[1:36:43] talking about this for months
[1:36:45] and you've changed your mind you know
[1:36:47] you you've also
[1:36:49] flip-flopped your opinion on this for
[1:36:51] some reason which i'm not clear
[1:36:53] well some some of us wouldn't call it
[1:36:55] flip-flopping some of us
[1:36:57] i i would hate to think that my opinions
[1:36:59] when i was 10 years old it's the same
[1:37:01] opinions i have now and i grow i read i'm educated
[1:37:06] so i'm willing to change my opinions and
[1:37:08] i wasn't shy about it i didn't go on
[1:37:09] facebook and just type something up this
[1:37:10] is my new opinion
[1:37:12] i presented it at a public hearing and
[1:37:14] i'm
[1:37:15] discussing it now and we'll have another
[1:37:16] public hearing to discuss this whole
[1:37:18] issue that the residents of this town
[1:37:20] can come in and
[1:37:22] ask any questions say whatever
[1:37:24] statements they wish to say
[1:37:26] so i don't consider it uh flip-flopping
[1:37:29] i did feel strongly at that time
[1:37:31] that i shouldn't be brought up and i
[1:37:33] wanted to get back by this
[1:37:35] gay pride month but i think it's an
[1:37:37] issue that we can resolve one way or the
[1:37:38] other that we should resolve as a town
[1:37:45] any other comments questions i just
[1:37:47] wanted to thank everyone for coming out
[1:37:50] and letting us know how you feel i
[1:37:51] prefer this thing soon so
[1:37:53] yeah nice to hear everybody's voice
[1:37:55] right yes and see your faces
[1:38:02] so if there is no other further public
[1:38:05] input
[1:38:06] i'll again ask for that motion uh
[1:38:10] entertaining yes okay uh mr chairman i
[1:38:13] make a motion that we enter into
[1:38:15] executive session under massachusetts
[1:38:17] general laws chapter 30a section 21a
[1:38:20] number three to discuss the strategy
[1:38:23] with respect to collective bargaining or
[1:38:24] litigation if an open meeting may have a
[1:38:26] detrimental effect on the bargaining
[1:38:28] or litigating position of the public
[1:38:30] body and the chair so declares
[1:38:32] negotiations with dike and police
[1:38:34] officers mass
[1:38:35] cop 306. a second
[1:38:38] and i so declare we will not be
[1:38:41] returning
[1:38:42] back to a public meeting
[1:38:45] i want to thank everybody for for coming
[1:38:46] here we're meeting next week next
[1:38:48] wednesday
[1:38:49] in over there we can hold 100 people so
[1:38:51] we can hold
[1:38:52] have more people come if they wish uh so
[1:38:56] i'll ask for a vote all those in favor
[1:38:57] say aye
[1:39:00] roll call dr c hi
[1:39:03] and ken pacheco is also an eye thank you
[1:39:05] very much thank you